The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1150 - The Celtics Win Their 18th NBA Championship, Brian Windhorst, Mark Messier, Shams Charania, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Celtics winning their 18th NBA Championship, Roger Goodell’s testimony in the DirecTV NFL Sunday Ticket trial, Game 5 of the Stanley Cup Finals tonight, and everything happening around the sports world. Joining the show to wrap up the NBA season and chat about what’s next for the Celtics, Mavericks, the Klay Thompson situation, and the offseason as a whole is ESPN NBA journalist and analyst, friend of the progrum, Brian Windhorst (10:36-52:25). Next, 6x Stanley Cup Champion, 16x NHL All-Star, ESPN NHL analyst, the Captain, the Messiah, Mark “Moose” Messier joins the show to chat about tonight’s game 5, if the Oilers have the momentum back now, what Bobrovsky needs to do to shake off game 4, and much much more (1:09:33-1:24:04). Later, NBA Insider for The Athletic, and FanDuel TV’s Run It Back, Shams Charania joins the show to chat about JJ Redick being the coach of the Lakers and when that’s going to be officially announced, the outlook on this Celtics team moving forward, and what LeBron’s plans are moving forward as the NBA Draft and free agency are right around the corner (1:28:41-1:47:08). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this there's brand new NBA champs Tuesday June 18, 2024 this program starts right now. Sports are absolutely wonderful sports are great and there is a brand new NBA champion that has been crowned last night and the storylines are obviously in abundance and we'll be talking about all of them as Big Wendy who has been on TV for the last four hours on ESPN will stop by in about 10 minutes to break down the dominance that was this particular Boston Celtics team who are your new champions and now they hang their 18th banner which is the most in the history of the NBA and all of Boston was excited and upside down. Jalen Brown wins the MVP even though Tatum led the Boston Celtics in the final series in points assists and rebounds.

Brown gets the MVP. Mazula is the youngest coach to win since 1969. Tatum gets a title at the age of 26 which is the same age Giannis was when he won his first title. And younger than basically every other legend to ever win their first title. It was a beautiful night for the people that celebrate the Celtics. And, you know, obviously this went to a game five, but the writing, it seemed to be on the wall. And one half of the toxic table is here at Ty Schmidt. It's good to see you, Ty. Good to see you as well, Pat.

I feel like we all understand what's coming right down the pipe here in a matter of moments. Nine-year NFL vet sitting in big Tone Diggs' seat, who is with his daughter right now. All good, buddy. Had to be daddy daycare. Little late. Tone, we miss you, buddy. We love you. Darius J. Butler. Yes, sir. D-Butch. D-Butch, buddy we love you darius j butler's debuts um you know the world is going to want to see how this human responds to what took place last night without further ado ladies and gentlemen the other half of the toxic table a man who has had to wait five long years i know wow second longest championship drought in Boston history to celebrate another championship.

Ladies and gentlemen, Boston. Oh my god. Boston Conner. Yeah. We don't have a day, day, day, da la la, da, da da da, another round, day, day, day, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, you, and you and you.

Mm-hmm. Yep. And you. Yeah, that was Bailey McComas taking some shrapnel there in the back. Mm-hmm. If he was getting yelled at. Man. Can we do that again?

We've done it three times already. Can we do it one more time? But now it's actually official. The Boston Celtics have won the NBA championship. Congratulations, Connor. Thank you, man. Wow. What a ride.

What a journey it's been, man. Honestly, I can't thank the fans enough, the team, the coaches, top to bottom. Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge, please, of course. I'd be remiss not to mention him. I want to also thank all the haters on the way. There's no haters.

As soon as the Pacers lost, excuse me, got swept by the Celtics, as soon as they got swept, D-Butt texted me, hey, Mavs in six, bitch. I was like, whoa, brother. Okay. I didn't think that's how this was going to go. Yeah, but not a lot of people were picking the Mavs.

Yeah, well, that's funny. You know, 89% of the bets on the series prices was Jalen Brown, my teammate, my brother in arms, who reminded everybody when he posted on his IG that, you know, actually most people bet on the Dallas Mavericks to win, but that's okay, you know, because it's been like that. Yeah, but sports personalities on TV, nobody does. Yeah, unfortunately, they did.

I took the Dallas Mavericks, and I'm not going to list any names, of course, but I will say Molly from First Take, she had the Celtics because she knows basketball, baby, and that's just kind of the difference, is that the people who knew ball, the people who knew ball, the people who kind of go to bed at night knowing like, yeah, basketball,

yeah, that's my shit. They knew the Celtics were going to win this title. And, you know, at the end of the day, the doubters are what drive us, baby. You know, the whole year, the boys in the locker room and in the team. And Joe always, you know, Joe, Coach, I call him Joe just because we're boys. West Virginia legend. Of course, of course. See always you know joe coach i call him joe just because we're because we're boys but coach west virginia legend of course of course you see you know yeah you know i know joe you know joe i know it will coach coach yeah thanks thank you joe but joe always reminds us all year you know nothing matters except for winning that last game of the season

and you know we did in dominant fashion i, the whole entire league, they suck. It was fun, too, watching ESPN kind of roll out. The whole entire league, they suck. They do. They do. They do, don't they? I mean, what, half the league, if you combine all their titles, they got like a quarter of what the Boston Celtics got. But it was fun when ESPN rolled out, you know, Josh Hart and Paul George

and Julius Randle and Joel Embiid and all these guys are just bitching and moaning and crying about being hurt. Sure, they were. Did Joe Mazzulla go into all these guys' locker rooms and break their legs? Is that why they were hurt? No, it's on you, Harden. Because that's how it felt. At the end of the

day, circumstances are circumstances. I think some people on TV might have wanted the celtics to just lose on purpose because they were playing teams that didn't have you know that weren't full strength if you will and you know then when we finally got to the finals we obviously the team when we finally got there you know it was a mavericks fun's over show's over boston you know you guys haven't been tested all. By the time you guys turn around and wake up, it's going to be 3-1 Mavs. It's going to be too late

for the Boston Celtics to win. That, just as we see, wasn't true. I mean, the Boston Celtics is one of the most dominant teams in the history of the league, and maybe that's not true. I think it is. I believe they're the fifth team since 2000 to win 80 games in a season.

You know some of those teams? Do you know some of the teams that won 80 games? What did they do? I mean, the Lakers and Shaq and Kobe. Historic. The Heetles. We talk about them all the time. Still is. That was back when Miami, you know.

The Warriors, of course. Kind of the dynasty of the last 15 years. And, of course, the 2008 Celtics. And, you know, this year really was capped off by greatness. And I hope, you know, all those people I saluted when I walked in, the six, seven, eight, nine, ten Celtics fans in here, I believe after last night, I hope they realize what they witnessed. I don't think we're going to see something like that for a very long time

until the Celtics do it again next year. And then probably the year after that, we'll see what happens. But, yeah, to be completely honest, I could not be happier. Yesterday was one of the happiest days of my entire life, of my entire existence. You were nervous yesterday, wasn't he? Of course. Well, you could feel the anxiety from yesterday.

Of course I was nervous. But, you know, if I wasn't nervous, I wouldn't be ready. If I wasn't nervous, I wouldn't care as much as I did. Yeah, you earned the nerves. Bingo. You know what I'm saying? And pressure makes diamonds, and that's what the Celtics got, baby. They're getting diamonds going forward.

We're going to get another one next year. And the year after that, Missoula's already got some places in the rafters where he sees some blank spots. Like, yep, Kaput. Saw him at 3.20 a.m. walking around. Still looking for new ones. Yeah, and I'm sure he's thinking, too, man, that was fun, but you know what's even more fun?

Back-to-back. You know what's even more fun after that? A back-to-back-to-back. I don't think that this is the end at all. And you mentioned that Jason Tatum did not win the finals MVP. That's just another reason to go back and get another. Because at this point, hey, everyone should get one. I think Horford should get a finals MVP. Congrats to him.

17 years. 186 postseason games. Second most ever. Not the most in NBA history. Second most ever, but Drew Holiday deserves one. Congratulations. Another title. Superstar. Superstar really brought the team together this year. Of course, the man whose teeth look

so, so bad this morning. I cannot feel worse for Derek White. He looks so, so bad this morning. I cannot feel worse for Derek White. He looks so, so bad. But it doesn't matter because he's got a title. Congrats, Wyatt. He's got a title, baby. And, I mean, I don't think there is a player in the NBA. And, yeah, I think this is accurate.

I don't think there's one player in the entire NBA. That was good journalism. You re-corrected yourself. Just thinking about it. I don't think there's one guy in the entire NBA that could have done what Peyton Pritchard did. Without a doubt. He hit three buzzer beater shots from half court and beyond. I mean, that is asinine.

This was his first time checking into the game. Just touched the ball for the first time. For the first time in four seconds. A bucket. Logo. Other side. Bucket. Not a backboard.

That is a bucket. And, of course, he says right after, I do this shit. And he does do this shit. And this entire team, top to bottom, was just so fun to watch. It really was one of those things where you mentioned I was nervous. Because of the fact that it was championship or not when you're this close, the only thing going through your head is what can go wrong. It's not, hey, it's going to be cool seeing everybody in the trophy ceremony

and everyone partying in the locker room. You don't think about that stuff. You just think about being the team that blows the 3-0 lead. So now that it's done, it is incredible. Basketball season, it was a hell of a year. I mean, I can't wait for next year already, but, man, it was fun. Congrats, Conor. Congrats to all the Mads holes.

18. We did it. Five long years. Five long years. Longest one of my entire life. Well, second longest in Boston history. Yeah, since 1960, I believe, when all four teams were officially in their prospective leagues. Listen, this is why they're tough to have any empathy for ever.

You know, like when the best Bruins team, best regular season in the history of the NHL happens in the Bruins and they lose in the first round. It's tough to feel any empathy at all because all these sons of seemingly do is have parades that's literally all they do is just parade parade parade for what that would do a baseball one this year why not okay well obviously it's Patriots so it's every other year we gotta have one for them and then oh yeah well we'll do a basketball one as well that's fine we'll do a basketball one and then why not just toss it to Bruins one time? It's a wild place, a lot of winning, and congrats to the Celtics seemingly kicking off what is about to be a few-year run here because everybody's returning, basically.

Everybody's still in a contract. To tell us more about that and other storylines we need to be keeping our eye on, ladies and gentlemen, a man who's been on television for five and a half hours already today, and we can't thank him enough for showing up, Big Wendy, Brian Winger. Hey, Wendy! Connor, how'd you get your hands on that trophy so fast? That was very impressive. I mean, look, Wendy, you know, every player gets a day with the trophy,

and I just took mine right off the top. They said true leader, you know. Everybody's wondering about Brian Tatum, Al Horford. They were like, let's make sure that Boston Connor gets the first day with the trophy. I said you're damn right. Thanks, Joe. I appreciate it again. When did we get that?

Because I'm looking at it, and the ball is not really robbed. Yeah, and they actually changed the trophy. It's different now. I think this thing's like four years old. That was three years ago. All right, perfect. Anyways, Wendy, you were there last night. Took the first plane you could to New York so you could do uh to let us all know about everything all day we appreciate your work

i had the most amazing travel morning of my life i i'll never have a better travel amazing day than i had today i i couldn't believe the set of circumstances that fell into place that enabled me to get here for this show. It's at eight in the morning. And I really didn't need it. Like if I didn't make it eight o'clock, I like wanted to save that karma for a time when I need that. I don't, I need it when I'm in a traffic jam trying to make a flight home. So what happened? What happened? We got gates that stayed open for you. Were you a little bit late? What happened? The trap, the flight time between Logan and LaGuardia this morning was 39 minutes.

I don't know how that happened. 39 minutes. I get down to the baggage plane. The bag is waiting there. And then I get the greatest taxi driver in the history of New York City. I used to live here. I've had 100, 200, 500 taxi rides here. It was the greatest taxi driver I've ever seen.

100, 200, 500 taxi rides here. 100, 100. It was the greatest taxi driver I've ever seen. He had me from the airport to the studio in like half the time it usually takes. I had time to relax. I could have had a Danish if they had Danish here, but I could have had a Danish. If they had a green room that was properly equipped

for a celebratory celebration, you could have housed it all because of how quickly you got. Absolutely. Shout out to the taxi driver. Shout out to you waking up. Shout out to public transportation. Doesn't get a lot of credit. No, it. Absolutely. Shout-out to the tax drive. Shout-out to you waking up. Shout-out to public transportation. Doesn't get a lot of credit. No, it doesn't.

Doesn't get a lot of credit ever, so I'm happy that we're bringing that on this celebratory Tuesday after the Celtics win their 18th banner. And obviously, Connor and everybody that are Boston Celtics fans are waving it in the face of everybody for not talking about them all year. And then whenever they finally get in the playoffs, well, it's not real because the players are hurt. And then everybody, well, the West is going to conquer

the East because of how tough it is. And then here they are standing as champions in dominant fashion. And Wendy, I think the big story here for me is as we all just look ahead, which is seemingly well, they're all coming back too, right? I mean, Wendy, everybody's seemingly in a good spot. Brown wins the MVP

over Tatum, even though Tatum leads the team in points, assists, and rebounds. He becomes the first player in NBA history to lead his team in those three stats and not win the MVP if the team would go on to win. But everybody's happy. Everybody's back. And this is just what the Celtics are now for the next few years. Wendy, is that an accurate take on it? Definitely for next year. They're all coming back. And look, in the next week or two jason tatum is going to sign a 315 million dollar extension that's going to lock him in alongside jaylen brown like they may have to adjust those some of those role players but jay brown and tatum are locked in holiday is locked in and they're going to lock in derrick

white is my assumption over the summer we'll see about the rest but they're definitely going to come back next year by the way i was talking to jason tatum's agent last night and they were joking with the celtics because under the new rules this year um you are allowed to start negotiating with your clients uh with your own free agents now you know used to be had to wait till june 30th you can actually negotiate with your own clients or your own free agents so in theory jason tatum could sign that extension today and uh the agent uh was joking with the celtics executive hey just bring that contract over right to the postgame locker room we'll sign it we're ready to go and they were like yeah it might be a day or two before we get that but that contract is coming so jason tatum by the way when i saw the in locker

room last night in uh in the celtics locker room they had written on their whiteboard flight to miami at noon yeah i thought i thought they were joking no you connor you know when the parade is the parades on friday yeah strictly because they want to go to Miami. And that is a callback to Miami, right? Saying flight to Miami at noon whenever they were thinking that they were going to extend the series, right? Is that all this is? You know what? You may be more.

I don't know that. That's what Connor. Oh, yeah. That's what Connor pieced together. You may be right, man. All I know is they apparently, I don't know for sure, but they were saying they're going to fly down to Miami. Wait for the social media content. If that's truly what happens,

wait for the social media content for the next few days while those dudes are partying in Miami. And the city was good last night. By the way, by the time I left at 4 in the morning, the trash had been cleaned up. I didn't see anything. I didn't hear about anything. You know, everybody was having fun.

They know how to do it. But Friday night, it might be a little wild. It might be a little wild on Friday up in Boston. But they're going to party, I think, the next few days in Miami, which is, you know, that's a pretty boss move.

Obviously, the sports media, it is a very boss move, just to fly to Miami. Some teams go to Vegas, but Vegas is like a five-hour flight from Boston, I assume. Miami is still very far down there from Boston. I couldn't even imagine, so still a trip. But I like that the team is getting away. There is the dry erase board from the Celtics locker room last night, noon flight to Miami.

And, Connor, you said that miami he had this on their dry erase board when they thought they were going to extend a series noon flight back to miami or something yeah bingo in the first round of the series when they won in five on during game five that was written by either spolster or someone in the miami team on their whiteboard okay so this could be an answer to that and i'm following through on it's awesome or they just wanted to go party in miami when they were down there because they weren't able to do anything they saw people go into the elbow room and they said wait a minute how come we can't go to the elbow room but also sports media obviously has told this story like a thousand times you know what's happening tonight

in south florida windy no clue wow okay florida panthers game five oh yes so i didn't know that game was there yes right chuck right obviously with tat They're middle. If the Celtics roll into the Sunrise Florida Panthers game tonight with that throw, and then Kachuk wins Lorto tonight, and then all of a sudden you've got a Florida Panthers-Boston Celtics celebration night in South Florida. I mean, there's a chance that that is happening. Have Larry and Stanley ever been side-by-side freshly won? This is potentially like Will Chamberlain holding the 100 photo.

Yeah, but real. This is potentially unbelievable. Yeah, well, we don't know if that's real, but when Lourdes starts dancing, things get wild. I couldn't even imagine what Larry gets up to. Could be a magical night in South Florida. That's the only one we don't have in South Florida, too. Obviously, the Dolphins got a Super Bowl. He got a couple championships.

As far as majors, Marlins got a couple world titles. As far as major sports, that's the last one. Elbow room's going to be upside down. Celtics are going to be there, and the Panthers just fresh off of Lord Stanley. I was living in Miami in 2011 when the Mavericks won that finals, and their party that they had at Live that night, which was the hot, I don't know if it's still open,

but at the time it was the place to go down the Fountain Blue. I think Mark Cuban, there's some story about Mark Cuban's platinum card. They spent so much money that his card got declined at some point that night because they had spent so much money.

The parties in Miami after championships could be wild. What if it's a co-party? That's what I'm saying. There's a chance that this could happen. Don't play stupid here, Wendy. You knew it was Live on Sunday, King of Diamonds Monday, Swagger's so dumb, call it Kelly Bundy.

You knew that, Wendy, which is why we appreciate it. What are some other storylines maybe that came out of last night that we're not talking about or we need to keep in mind as we head into the offseason here about the Celtics team? And Mavs team, I guess. And Mavs team as well. First off, Peyton Pritchard had an iconic Boston moment.

Iconic Boston moment. I don't know if I've ever – I've been in that arena for huge playoff games for the last 10, 15 years. Peyton Pritchard hitting his shot. By the way, he might have traveled. Don't tell anybody. Also, Luka, I think, fouled him. I think Luka fouled him too.

Should have been a four-point play. I don't know if I've ever heard a bigger explosion. That was peak Boston. Peyton Pritchard hitting that shot was peak Boston. And also pretty much guaranteed, look, this game is over. It's just a matter about celebrating the second half. So that's one memory I always have, the reaction in that arena to that shot because everybody knew he was getting it.

They just put him in the game. You guys just said it. They just put him in the game. So the reactions in the crowd, like looking around the crowd and the way people were celebrating with each other. After they hit that, you got some of that there. Look at them. Look at them.

They were loving it. It was amazing. So that moment I'll always remember. Secondly, Jason holding up Deuce Tatum in the air. There's some photos from that. I mean, if Jason doesn't have a, if he doesn't have that photo five feet by seven feet on his wall for the rest of his life. I mean, what an amazing photo that is, especially since Deuce has, you know, the Boston fans have basically seen Deuce grow up. Deuce is three days older or three days younger than my son Dane and

I've talked with Jason we have we have sons Jason and I are separated by about 25 years in age we have sons the same age basically and and so like we talked over the years about hey what's your son do we know what you know they're both really into sports and they both like the same stuff and so just for me like seeing that like that's an iconic moment, Deuce coming up to Jason, hugging him, Jason looking over and realizing that Deuce was there and then turning around and holding him up.

Again, just an iconic moment in Jason Tatum's life. But that's that right there, that photo. That's what you want. You want this identifying photo. And it's so symbolic because it's Tatum, you know, delivering on the promise of that he's always been and um you know he had a he had a because the game itself wasn't a great game his 31 11 and 8 probably doesn't go down as like a star performance but it was

awesome he delivered a great game people had said that he didn't have sort of a signature finals game where there was. And not only that, yeah, he didn't shoot the outside shot. Well, what happens when Tatum has been criticized in his career? It's because he settles for that outside shot. He didn't do that. He went to that rim. He was the player that everybody wanted. And the other thing I'm going to remember is the genuine suspense in the crowd

when they announced the MVP. Okay. Like, people did not know. Normally, you know, the guy knows, and he sort of – they usher him right next to. I don't know how many people on that stage knew. It might have only been Adam Silver who knew. And, like, genuinely there was some surprise.

And there was a boo or two. I'm not going to lie. There was a boo or two from some Tatum fans. I don't think it was anti-Jalen. Hey, who votes for that? So, did you vote? Who all votes for that? Because I think I saw a list of the votes.

And Tatum obviously got some. It was a split decision. You know, they went to the judges' scorecards. It was a split decision in all of that. But that's all very public. and that's happening in real time. How do they calculate that? Somebody goes on an app? What is the deal?

Yeah, so basically there's 11 voters. I was not a voter. I've actually never voted for finals MVP. I did vote for Western Conference finals MVP this year. 11 voters need six votes to win. He got seven. Jalen Brown got seven um it's been close like this before the last time i remember i don't have a complete history was when andre guadalla got

seven votes in 2015 i think lebron got four on the losing team something like that um so uh the these 11 votes there you have it these are all national and local media. That's from 2015. Yeah, that's the Iguodala-LeBron James thing. But how do they vote? Because they've got to get that pretty quick text. Old school text message. To Adam Silver? To Adam Silver, yes.

We're all texting him our post-game food order. And the MVP. Ah, you're the man. Yeah, so no, to the league. league but um you know what would have been perfect because i actually think drew holiday deserves special mention um would have been perfect and this happens kind of fast like it's sort of at the end of the game um what would have been perfect is if they both got five and drew holiday got one because that way they could have actually split the award

there's never been a split as far as i know they they both kind of were deserving but i also think drew holiday deserved something but look there was no wrong answer here and the fact that there was suspense actually is more of an ode to the celtics absolutely how great their team was and that you could honestly say that multiple people deserve finals MVP. So I was thinking about it as I was flying home from Corpus Christi, which is a beautiful town so far away from Indiana, so far away. Last night I was on a plane.

It wasn't like the Logan to LaGuardia flight that you had. But as I was looking at the photos that were popping up and the conversations that were taking place, there was a photo of Tatum holding Larry and then Brown holding the MVP, and it was just them in the photo shoot. And it was like at that moment, I wonder if Tatum looks down and just thinks to him, you know, if there's any negative feeling about anything, I wonder if it's in that moment or if they just continue to move forward. I'm not driving a wedge in between anybody,

but there are certainly legacies and conversations and dreams and hopes, especially with all the photos that there are from Kobe and MJ. It's like there's so much at play there, and you just won a championship. So I hate that my mind even thought about that. But going to have to win another one, I guess. That's how it all goes. Connor's got a question for you, Wendy. Yeah, Wendy.

Obviously, the contracts with the players are one thing, but also Joe Mazzulla. Are we thinking that he's going to sign a lifetime highest-paid coach in the NBA-type deal, or what's kind of the next step with his contract? Because I assume they want to lock him down for at least the next 10 years. They gave him a long-term deal at the start of the season, basically said, you're our coach now. Whether or not the Celtics want to change those terms, that's up to them, but he is locked down to a long-term contract, so that's not a concern.

Although I will say this was a victory for Joe Mazzulla too. I mean, really, this was a crowning moment. They've been building towards this for a decade, really. And so it was a crowning moment for Brad Stevens. I know Brad was like, he was like trying to hide on the stage. He didn't want anybody to give him notice. He was like hiding behind the tall guys in the back of the stage. But it's a crowning moment for Brad Stevens.

It's a crowning moment for Missoula. They basically played his blueprint in this series, which is shoot a ton of threes. I think they made 22 more threes than the Mavericks, which is pretty much unrecoverable, just using math. I think they had 16 more blocks in the series. So shoot them more threes, defend the paint, don't turn the ball over. They had the one high turnover game in Game 4.

But this was Missoula ball to a tee. They obviously had to have the talent to do it, but Missoula ball to the tee. And he deserves a lot of credit too. And he is going to be a coach in the NBA for a long time, whether it's in Boston or somewhere else. Love Joe Mazzola. He'll be in Boston, obviously. He'll stay there. Or he's going to come back and coach at West Virginia. West Virginia legend. To your point about those stats,

got him from Hembo here. Plus 22 in threes. Oh, yeah. Weapon. Got hit in the face with a basketball yesterday. He did. Absolute weapon, though. Plus 22 in three-pointers, which is third in finals history as a deficit. Plus 16 in blocks, which is tied for sixth. And they were plus 37 in assists over, as you take a call,

maybe from Hembo or Adam Silver in this entire thing. Let's pivot away from the Celtics as you continue your marathon of television here. Let's talk about that other team. Go ahead, D-Buck. Yeah, Wendy. Obviously, they're on the wrong side of it right now. And, you know, you coach Wendy. You ripped Luka Nguyen a few nights ago live on TV.

What's next for J.P.? Hey, you started an entire – he did a sit-down interview. Oh, yeah. There was like a full – I mean, you started it. Yeah. But Wendy did cook. Oh, yeah. Coach Wendy. I apparently got destroyed in the Slovenian media. Uh-oh. There was like a full, I mean, you started it, but Wendy did cook.

I apparently got destroyed in the Slovenian media. Hey, been there, done that, buddy. Been there, done that, brother. That's going to happen over there. I mean, I think they're a little bit more serious. If I were you, I would stay away from that particular country for a while. The Slovenian prime minister was at the next game, and I was just keeping a wide berth from the Slovenian Secret Service just to – Okay.

Yeah. What's next for Jason Kidd, Luke, and Kyrie over here with Dallas? Yeah, so look, they've got a very good team, but the team was kind of just put together at midseason. So I think they've got some more development there. And they also, frankly, have room to make a trade this offseason and bring in a piece. Now, they've made – I don't think they're, like, in the market for, like, a huge-name player, but they can upgrade this team.

Primarily, they have the contract of Tim Hardaway Jr., which is a now-expiring contract for next season. He just wasn't really a part of their rotation throughout the playoffs. He is a player that I do think has some value, especially on an expiring contract. So if they're willing to take on some longer money, which they now have one of the wealthiest ownerships in all of professional sports with the Adelson family,

I don't think that'll be an issue. Is Mark doing anything over there anymore? He's got this really first off he was very distant throughout the playoff run okay um worked and I think part of that is because we're used to seeing him um front and center yeah he did he he did he did get like 2.7 billion for it he still holds a percentage of the team, but I think he walked away with like 2.7 cash, you know, in his bank account. So I'm not feeling sorry for him. But I think the title that he has,

and think about the workshopping that went into this. I think his title is Mavericks Proprietor, which is really weird and I think they should get rid of. I don't know what it means. It sounds like the guy who's running the country store. It's a weird title. What is the definition of a proprietor?

The reality is... The owner of a business or a holder of property. Huh. I guess he holds like 20 or 30% of the team. I don't like it. I don't like that term, but they made enough because he's sort of in this awkward situation where he still sort of, you know,

basically helped construct this team, but doesn't own it anymore. And the way it works in the NBA, there's no honorary owners. There is one governor and that governor, that man or woman is the person who is the face of the franchise. Now, if that governor wants to invite Mark Cuban to stand next to him

when he gets the trophy or her when he gets the trophy, that's fine. But Cuban didn't have – because when he sold the team, he was like, I'm still running basketball operations. I don't think so. You're not the governor. But anyway. That feels like pretty big news. Yeah. Cause I thought he was running basketball operations as well.

I assumed he negotiated in that $2.7 billion cash. That's what I'm gonna need. Also, I need my court side seat still. Cause I still did the whole song and dance and also I'm running basketball. Like in other words, like he, you can't, you are the governor or you're not, you know, he is not the governor or you're not. He is not the governor. So that's just the way it is. But he obviously had a lot invested in this team. He basically put this team together under his watch.

But anyway. Hey, hell of a run, Mark. Hell of a run, Mark. Seems like you got no say in anything at all anymore. But it was a hell of a run. Had a hell of a run. They do have the ability to make an upgrade train. What's it going to be?

We'll see. The offseason is literally just starting today. But I do think that they will be in the market to upgrade this roster. And they have a good young team. There is some real competition in the West, though, no doubt about it. Congrats to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Mark Cuban is obviously buying them. So that's why.

Okay. Thank you, Mark. Coming back home to Pittsburgh. didn't you try to buy the penguins before and then pirates i think it was the pirates he tried to buy the pirates like four or five different times and either the mlb didn't let him or the owner didn't want like he wanted and then obviously there was a chance he was gonna run for president there for a bit but then he came out was like not until my kids graduate so i think there's always been other things that are massive that Mark Cuban has potentially gone on to do. So him selling this while remaining in charge of basketball ops,

I didn't fully understand. What's he need $2.7 billion for right now? We've all seen Shark Tank. He's got a bunch. But maybe he is kind of pulling it back there and then going, let's go buy Pittsburgh Barks. Could be. That would be fantastic.

Maybe something outside of sports that would probably be some type of conflict of interest. Whoa. Kind of like Michael Rubin when he sold the Sixers, got out, had to do the fanatics and the sports bullshit. I feel like Shaq when he got out of King's ownership because of something else he had going on. So maybe. And remember, Mark Cuban got his money because he was streaming Indiana basketball games online. That's how it all started. He was streaming sports on the internet.

He was the first person to do that while he was at IU. Then he got paid, broken off, a billion dollars, I think, to Yahoo. I think it was Yahoo gave him. I forget the entire thing. Anyways, he's a yinzer who goes on to make a shit ton of money. Everybody in Pittsburgh is wanting him back in Pittsburgh owning a team because they see how he acts in Dallas. I think it was the Pirates for a bit.

Maybe there is some other massive business that he's trying to put money up for. Which would be that one business that needs to be bought. They're trying to get casino gambling passed in Texas. And that's one of the reasons why he made this deal with the Adelson family. The idea would be that he would be a partner in a potential casino with them. But I'm not caught up on

Texas politics. I can't tell you how likely that is. Have you heard about Florida politics? The Seminole tribe will be running sports gambling until 2051. We need to utilize the brains that the Seminole Tribe has. They are

absolute beasts at the negotiation table. I had a chance to go on vacation down there, and I just so happened to be in an area where there was a Seminole Tribe on vacation down there, and I just so happened to be in an area where there was like a Seminole tribe museum. And my wife and I took, I don't know, 100 milligrams, and we went in there. I feel like I read the amount of history. We need to utilize the Seminole tribe as a country more.

They are weapons. We're talking about in control of a lot of things. And also said that, nah, too so much. Yeah. Yeah. Bizarre. Hey, we're going to do this. Nah.

You are. Those are guys you don't want to mess with right there. Well, it's funny you say that. It's funny you say that because they're so damn great at business. You kind of have to mess with them. So whenever we were, when Fandle was our exclusive sports book, and that was from like the beginning of when sports gambling got legalized. So we were very pumped to kind of ride that wave alongside of him.

We got to learn a lot about the ins and outs and lobbying that's taking place in every single state and how hard it is to pass and get a license and everything like that. In Florida was going to be a concerted effort by DraftKings, Fando and everybody, because obviously the amount of sports fans down there, sports teams down there, the amount of people. We're going to try to put on a full campaign to get Florida to pass for outside brokers to be able to do sports gambling in Florida. And the Seminole tribe matched them. Just how much money are you guys spending? $100 million. Okay, we'll spend $150 million then,

saying these people that aren't from Florida are going to try to come. And they just beat DraftKings and FanDuel and everybody in the law. I mean, it was just clear as day, the marketing down there. So I, I said to the FanDuel people, as they were laying this all out and they say, Hey, this is going to be our next campaign and blah, blah, blah. I was like, has anybody talked to the chief? You know, has anybody gone down and just talked to the chief? That's how business gets done. And they're like, uh, nobody's done that. I was like, I'll go. You want me to go to, I'll go down and talk to chief Osceola or whatever. And they're like, nobody's done that. I was like, I'll go. You want me to go? I'll go. I'll go down and talk to Chief Osceola or whatever. And they're like, we

couldn't recommend stronger for you to not. And I have never laughed harder in my life. I'm like, alright, so nobody. But Ron DeSantis went and met with you. And they got a deal done and threw it all. But you're right. We don't know enough about politics of it all.

But if Mark Cuban is trying to get into the casino gambling business, it's like obviously that would make sense because I don't think any of those have ever lost money. And Mark Cuban is considered a good business person. But that would also be a business. Well, that $2.7 billion from the Adelsons came from Blackjack. So I would back that up. So him not owning a team while trying to get into gambling could potentially be an entire thing.

Well, Mark, we'll miss you. And if a casino doesn't work, which we've never seen one not, Pittsburgh Pirates, you need to buy it ASAP. And there's a Rivers Casino right across the street if you ever need it. Ty has a question about somebody that has been a little active on social media. Yeah, Wendy, obviously now that the final's over, I think we have the draft next week, and then it's on to free agency. But what's going on with Klay Thompson?

We see that he unfollowed the Warriors on all his social media accounts. Oh, no. Yeah, not good. Pretty much sign, seal, and deliver. He's not going back. He's going to go somewhere else. Is this ultimately kind of the end of this run with the Warriors? Are they kind of just old fodder now with everything that's going on in the West

and the Celtics in the East, obviously? And what is Klay Thompson going to fetch on the open market? I wouldn't assume that. I think he's negotiating. So they tried to get a deal done. So there was a couple other guys on their team that you know won championships there who got new contracts draymond green and andrew wiggins where they lowered the amount of money they were making and then added a bunch of years on i think four years in both cases and sort

of set the standard okay clay now is when you will take a pay cut and we add years on they tried to get something done before last season. They couldn't agree. Then Clay went out and didn't have a very good year. He had a good year by your average NBA player standards. He averaged 18 points and shot 39% on three. That type of production would probably get you $20 to $25 million if you were just saying I'll deliver that to Team X in the open market.

Clay was making like over $40 million last year. So they wanted to come down, and wherever that number is, they wanted to come to, and the years. It's not just the amount of money per year. It's also the number of years. He saw Draymond and Andrew Wiggins get four. I don't know exactly where his negotiations are, but if I were him,

I would ask for four too. So I don't know if it's whatever the amount is or the years are, but clearly even after a year of talking about it, they're not in a good place. And this to me sounds like a negotiation. I find it hard to believe that Clay would walk and go to a place like the Orlando Magic. But I guess it's possible. And there's one other thing. And again, I'm not up to date on where these negotiations are. But knowing Clay a little bit, I wonder if it's not all about money. Obviously, he wants to get paid something that he considers fair. I've been talking about this for a while, Wendy.

I've been talking about this for a while. When he was golfing terribly and he was getting just chewed apart and he had his own Klay Thompson brand on and I was like, I've never heard of that. I don't know how many people are buying that. I hope people buy that though to support Klay Thompson. I started inevitably thinking, is Klay Thompson going to be bitter towards Steph Curry and

this entire thing in the future? Like, is history going to look back and be like, Steph Curry is the reason why this entire thing and forget about Klay Thompson? And then he unfollows him. Is there a chance that Klay Thompson is a little bit bitter about how this is all gone with the Golden State Warriors and legacy? Because they've done a lot together for him just to be like, nah, fuck

this team. It's like, yo, you guys have won a lot. There's a lot of things that have happened together for him to unfollow you. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This could end up being still a happy story but i would say that remember last year like clay was getting benched at the end of games he lost his starting job at some point so part of this may be and i and again i do not know exactly i've

been covering the finals i do not know exactly the status of negotiations but part of this may be what's the role going to be like you know i want to get starter money then i want to be a starter you know something like that so it's definitely a signal to the rest of the world he knew exactly what he was doing that things are not going well and if i was interested in signing clay which there are teams definitely want to do that i would have seen that as a green light when june 30th gets here when that is when you're allowed to start talking to them they can still come to terms between now and june 30th i will just say a few years ago this happened with andre iguodala they had won a couple of championships with iguodala and he was a free agent he wanted to get taken care of and basically he wanted to be kind

of overpaid and he took like a free agent tour and i remember steve kerr telling the story that when the warriors actually went in to meet with him in this boardroom that it would dala had left like knickknacks and pamphlets and brochures from other teams like as hey just so you know this isn't my first meeting and it would dala did that acted like he was going to go to the, the, uh, rockets who were there in arch nemesis at the time. And at the end of the day,

he got re-signed and he was sort of at the same stage of his career as clay is. So I agree. It doesn't look good, but I would also say, don't misjudge a negotiation for, you know, you know, a statement of finale.

Okay. Well, I hope that's the case because splash brothers were awesome to watch here for a while and then obviously the whole conversation was clay can't hold up his end of the bar that's seemingly what the media started saying while steph continued to make shots and clay seemingly didn't now i think there was injuries that happened major which is always a part of the entire grand conversation but it's like i hope clay thompson and we as a sports world don't forget that like hey clint you were a massive piece of that you're a massive piece of

that whole thing and like the reason why the golden state warriors are such a nationally recognized brand at this particular time is because of something that you helped build over there the future though weird like let's say clay isn't there And then you talk about how great the West is. Steph Curry's still out there, right? Steph Curry's one of the biggest stars in basketball still? Yeah, for sure. He's still a top. I haven't seen him play basketball in a long time.

Long time. I haven't seen him play. And that's what the playoffs are. The interesting thing that they got going on is they've got Chris Paul. Chris Paul has a non-guaranteed contract for $30 million. He is no longer a $30 million player. You would assume that if Chris Paul, if Clay was re-signed,

that they would actually, it doesn't even really matter with Clay, that they would sort of release him from his contract because they don't want to pay him $30 million. But one option that they have is if Clay were to make it seem like he was going to leave they could trade chris paul with a draft picker to or a young player or two and that contract becomes like a piece that you use in a trade so that's something that you know that they can sort of maneuver and say okay well if clay if you want to walk we can always use this chris paul deal as a as a trade and i'm not saying that's what

they're doing but the warriors have maneuverability there you know it's not just being left high and dry and they also have young players you know the guy they drafted last year brandon pajemski was a very effective playing alongside uh steph m Moody, their top ten pick from a couple years ago, just had his best season. Jonathan Kaminga just had a good year. Big year. If I had to wager, I would say that they figured something out with Clay, although I admit right now it's probably not in the best place.

Okay, and then you think about, and we're pulling for all parties. We hope everybody gets rich, and we hope everybody plays good basketball. That's right. Love watching Steph. Steph was missed this playoff run, personally. For sure. As somebody that enjoys watching Steph play basketball, I missed watching him do his thing.

Let's stay in the West, though. Obviously, you know everything about this story because he's a co-worker of yours, and you've been traveling around the country with him for the last month and a half. And there were some other names that got mentioned. J.J. Redick is going to be announced as the Lakers head coach. That's happening when? That's happening soon? Well, things are, you know, I'll hedge and say that things are pointed

in that direction. J. Will this morning. Hey, J. Will. He broke it. Fellow Duke. J. Will just said. I know. So, J.J.'s again, good luck to him.

We're hoping that he has, he's got an entire thing. He said it in your face. He said it in your face this morning. I know. I was kind of surprised. I was like, wow, okay. I didn't know that. Oh, we're saying?

Yeah. I think it's headed in that direction. I would say that the Lakers have a lot of really big decisions to make in the next three, four weeks, and head coach is just one of them. They've got to work on this roster, and there's a couple of things that they've got big decisions on, specifically if D'Angelo Russell opts out of his contract. So the Lakers have a really big month here,

and they just got passed by the Celtics in titles for 18-7. And I would normally say it doesn't matter, but when I talk to people from those two organizations, that stuff really, really grates on them. Both teams actively had battle cries within their organizations to get banner 18. And so the Celtics got there first. And so, look, they can't have an average summer.

They need to upgrade this roster. And so, yeah, obviously coach is really important. And if it is indeed J.J., he will be a lot expected of him because of how intelligent he is and because of what he's talked about in that podcast. It can't just be hiring J.J. alone. They've got to fill some

holes in that roster. Got to wheel and deal a little bit. Well, congrats to J.J., it sounds like. We'll talk to old Sean Sharani next hour. I assume he'll have a little bit more. But J. Will seemingly, J. Will this morning just kind of said the quiet part out loud. Matter of fact.

We all seen it. We all see you were there. We all heard it. But it's kind of been the convo for the last, I think since like May 24th almost in some circles. And then in other places, maybe going other places. Now, talk about an 18th banner. Celtics are eyeing 19 20 20 i mean they are in quite a position right now lakers gonna have to deal with that but let's talk about the other side of the country go ahead yeah wendy obviously when you know teams like the

celtics come along that are just so much better than every other team in the league by a wide margin that there's usually a response except for one, no. We can just say everyone today. But, I mean, to your point, you want to talk about Tatum's greatness today. I appreciated that very much. Yeah, I did appreciate that, actually. Wendy was asked, are Brown and Tatum both top five players? And, Wendy, your answer was like, today's to celebrate these guys. It's not to knock them down.

Hey, that was good shit. Hell yeah, Wendy. That was good was good shit. Hell yeah, Wendy. That was good shit, Wendy, because people obviously act like they have to answer these questions in a manner in which they have to give burials in all the time. And you saying, nah, not playing that game. We all genuinely appreciate it, especially the people in Boston. For sure, definitely the people in Boston. I think because of that, Wendy, we will stand on business for you at any moment in the future. But looking at the league as a whole now, which teams do you think are probably

the ones that are going to try and form the new super team? Obviously, they're talking about Paul George maybe going to Philly or something along those lines. Trey Young has been talked about to go to the Lakers, like you're mentioning with them adding another piece. Which teams should we keep an eye on to add a massive player to kind of make that run at the title next year? Well, I really – so Denver has a big offseason here. First off, they've got to sign Jamal Murray to a contract extension. I assume that will happen in the short-term future, 200 million in four years

they can add to his deal. So he'll be locked up alongside those other guys. What I was mentioning was Denver was 2-0 against Celtics this year. They were very close games. I would love to have seen that series. Denver didn't handle their business, though. They lost Game 7 on their home court. They got their own issues they got to deal with.

That is a team that could potentially stand in the way of Boston racking some more of these up. Also, we've had six straight years of a different champion. That is an indication of a league where parity is going, and this new CBA is designed to break up teams, to break up expensive teams. So I would expect

it to be a challenge to repeat. That said, Tatum and Brown are 26 and 27 under long-term contract with a bunch of experience in championship pedigree now, those numbers are going to the rafters. No one's wearing number seven and number zero again in Boston.

They're running out of numbers. They really are. They're running out of numbers. They're talking about all five of those starters being retired. That's like the conversation. Like, Horford, you've got to do it. Well, I don't know about that, but listen, hey, the standard's pretty high. But listen, like, it won't be today and it won't be tomorrow, like Horford you gotta do it but listen hey the standard's pretty high but listen like

it won't be today and it won't be tomorrow but before next season somebody's gonna start whispering about banner 19 and that's just the way it's gonna be and they're well positioned to do it they absolutely could do it but the West is gonna be a challenge Denver has something

on their plate that maybe people aren't paying attention to, but Kentavious Caldwell-Pope can opt out of his contract by the end of the month, and I think he will. There's going to be a whole bunch of teams that want to sign him, and Denver's going to be in competition. They don't have a replacement sitting on their bench. Maybe they think they do, one of these young guys,

but they've got to make sure they can try to keep him. So they've got a challenge. Philly, the interesting thing with Philly is this. Some of these guys that I'm hearing about that they're interested in, obviously they're interested in Paul George. I mean, Joel Embiid did everything but give him a valentine on national television the other night. Side-eye, that was pretty cute. There's been some discussion about whether they would go after jimmy butler um again

but i'm not sure that you want a guy if you look at this celtics team and you look at how they're built do you want a big three with you know one of the guys in their mid-30s making a ton of money or do you want to maybe split your money up on multiple different wing players that can handle what Boston throws at you? And so if I was Philly, and I don't have a total game plan for them now because I'm just coming off these finals, but Philly is, I mean, they're going to try to get Paul George.

Paul George is an all-star. Paul George is a Hall of Famer. But if they don't get Paul George, I'm not sure it's like move on to the next star. I think they maybe have to take some care building that roster, but there's no doubt that they're going to be a better team next year. Also, Milwaukee, we didn't get a fair accounting of them. I think they'll be a challenging team as well.

Boston will definitely be favored, but let's just see where the league is in a month from now when everybody's made their move. I mean, Wendy, what about the Pacers? Geez Louise, they went to the Eastern Conference Finals. You were in the building. You got to feel the Painbridge Fieldhouse. You know what I mean? You got to feel the electricity of a team

that hadn't lost at home since March or something like that at the time. Tyrese Halliburton, is he back? Yeah, he's back. Are they going to have a full season with Spicy P now? Yeah, I think he's even doing off-season workouts and stuff as opposed to getting trained in the middle of the season. That's the big piece of business they have,

and I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple of days, because teams can't, they're not allowed to announce it, but they can come to terms on an agreement with their own players. That's different. They used to have to wait until July 1. So I would expect Siakam to be re-signed or committed to re-sign. I wouldn't be surprised if it's by the end of the week. And so that's a big piece of business.

And then, yeah, the Pacers are a potent team. And, you know, when Halliburton is healthy, they're obviously right up there. And they've now got some momentum. And, you know, they have, you know, some pieces on their roster that they could look to enter. I mean, that trade for Siakam was a very effective trade. That was a really shrewd move by their front office. Hell yeah, Pritchard. Signing Bruce Brown and then using him to get Siakam.

That was a really good one-two punch that has elevated them. So they're definitely a team to watch. Yeah, well, let's remember that when we're asked these questions. You know what I mean? You said, what, 10 teams? Yeah, everyone but basically. You said 10 teams. We appreciated your presence out here in Indiana.

I know stuff, the hotels. The Steak and Shake. The Steak and Shake. I love Steak and Shake. I love Indiana in the spring. I'd be glad to come back next year. It doesn't sound like it when you're talking about these teams, and you've got multiple calls, so we assume you have to go somewhere.

The NBA executives are calling because the offseason has begun, and now I've said no to two agents and two executives. Ladies and gentlemen, getting back on the beat after spending six hours on TV this morning, the incomparable Brian Winhurst. Thank you, Winhurst. He crushed it. Yeah, he's a dog. He showedurst. Thank you, Wendy. He crushed it. Yeah, he's a dog.

He showed up. Literally showed up everywhere. He said every single game, even if he was flying in day of, he was like, I'm going to be there on TV in New York next day, most of it. What a run for Wendy. Final MVP. You know what? Yeah, he said those votes should have been 5-5-1.

I think it should have been 4-4-4. You know? Yeah. 3-3-3-3-3-2. 3-3-3-2. No, I think you put him right up there with Tatum. Yeah, I'm not talking about him. He's not getting a Drew Holiday one vote.

He's splitting the MVP trophy. Yeah, he's up there. He's doing this with the boys. Yeah, exactly. Three for Tatum, three for Brown, three for Windy, two for Drew. Bingo. He's splitting the MVP trophy. He's the third. He's doing this with the boys. Three for Tatum, three for Brown, three for Windy, two for Drew. Bingo. That's exactly how I see it going. Shout out to Windy.

Way to go, Windy. Love you, Windy. Shout out to the Celtics, too. It sounds like you guys are in a good spot for the foreseeable future. Yeah. But, man, you have to have so much shit happen for you. We're talking about all the injuries and stuff. It's like seemingly, I don't know, Porzingis got hurt, but played a lot of games

without him. You had a lot of your guys playing in a lot of your games. I mean, that's the same thing with the NHL. This Panthers team has a lot of their guys playing in a lot of their games. Not that the Oilers aren't, but I'm just saying to make it to the finals, you need your dudes to be playing in most of your games. Celtics seemingly

had that a lot this year yeah I mean that's what the whole thing was last year was when when Tatum got hurt on that first play in game seven like so many times and that's what my thought was when they went up 3-0 like it's it's great that they were up 3-0 in the moment but you never know if game four something terrible happens to one of your best players so that was definitely a huge thing for the Celtics but I do think there will be a team that answers and just makes an absurd move. I believe, and I'm not 100% sure,

because sometimes on the internet things can get skewed, there was a potential meeting of LeBron with some of the people from Philly. So it's like stuff like that, you never know, just out of nowhere. We'll have Shams Rani in the next hour. We'll have Shams Rani in the next hour. He'll probably have a little bit of a scoop on if that's real

or if we need to look at it. But there's some stats from Hemba that I got that make me believe that this Celtics team is at a point. And he said the last six years there's been a new champion. It's like, well, for the last six years, has this team been maybe, you know, like coming together? Growing. Has this team been growing?

Their records this year, 46-6 at home, okay, this year. Pretty good. 34-15 on the road, and 34-15 versus teams of 500 or better, which is the best record in the entire NBA. And then you hear Jalen Brown speak after the game about their team, and you hear a speech right out of a movie, pretty much. Listen to the NBA Finals MVP chit-chat about where their team is now. We learned.

I think we learned from all our mistakes, all of our adversity. I think it's made us stronger, made us tougher. And all season, you could see it. We started from the jump. We made all the sacrifices. We played both ends of the ball at a high level. We didn't skip any steps. And this was the result.

But all of those experiences led to here. All of those moments where we came up short, we felt like we let the city down, we felt like we let ourselves down. All of that compiled is how we get to this moment. And it makes it feel even that much better that we had to go through all the journey, the heartbreak, the embarrassment, the loss to get to this, to get to the mountaintop. So dear AI, write me a speech about team pretty much and building chemistry and surviving

adversity and getting stronger and having somebody be able to speak it in a fashion as if he is the head coach of the basketball team. And he's only 27 years old and he's under contract for the next five years. It's like you see shit like that, and you see the way they all celebrate, and you see Joe Mazzola saying that nobody cares about anything. Basically, we just need to continue to lock in. They have an old-school mentality, seemingly, with an abundance of talent. And it's like, are we about to be in another mass hole dynasty run?

They had the Patriots for 20 years. Now are they about to have the Celtics for the next few? That's going to be the question as we roll into the entire offseason because that's what sports media is. Can't enjoy it right now. Got to talk about it next year. Sports!

Are happening and the Boston Celtics are once again, for the 18th time in their franchise's history, NBA champions as they beat the Mavericks at home. That's not it. In a Game 5 dominating performance, and obviously there's a lot of chatter about that because we're staring down a potential timeline for the next 5 to 10 years of the Celtics winning a lot.

And other teams trying to chase them. And if Massholes have another opportunity to talk shit to the rest of us, they're certainly going to do that. And this team with that coach and the president of basketball, Brad Stevens, at the helm. It feels like we're going to have to be talking about them a lot. Now, this year nobody talked about them because they were too good early. They were the ones who punched their ticket into the playoffs before any other team in the NBA. They were so good, so fast, so dominant,

that literally they got left out of the conversations. They said, let's not talk about the one team that's better than everybody. Let's talk about who might catch the one team because there's a lot more teams in that particular bucket than in the Boston South. Never got chatted about. Instead, people forgot how great they were and why they weren't being talked about. It's because they were so great. And then they go on a performance throughout the playoffs where at one point they won 12 games straight or 11 games straight or something like that. It was filthy. Their coach is young. Youngest coach to make the NBA final since 1969. Obviously, youngest coach to win the NBA Finals since 1969.

He's locked into a long-term deal there. They play a certain style of basketball on both ends of the floor. The culture has been established, both at UConn, which is nearby, with Dan Hurley, this is how we play ball. The Boston Celtics now know exactly how they play basketball. Their two pillars have bought in from the jump, from both defensive side and offensive side. You talk about the Mavs, it's like,

Luka's going to have to give more effort on defensive side. That's the whole conversation piece. We know he could score 50, but he's a liability on one side. Tatum and Brown are like two of the best defenders in the league. Then you add in Drew Holiday getting dropped in there, doing the same damn thing, smacking the wood at 30-plus years of age. Al Horford played 17 years, finally wins. He's on the defensive side of the ball.

It's just like their culture is established. They're now champions, and now everybody's going to ask the question, well, how many can you win? And I'm sorry that that has to happen, but let's head to the talk show table. At Ty Schmidt and 18-time NBA champion Boston Connor. Is this team going to be able to go on a run? That's all the conversation is.

I apologize for that because we're less than 24 hours removed and we're already looking ahead. Yeah, it's a bummer, but also it's nice because if your team is as great as the Celtics are, that is the conversation. It really wasn't like that with the Nuggets. The conversation was like, hey, Jokic is one of the best players ever. It wasn't like, oh, this team might go on a five-year run where they're winning titles every single year I think it's kind of a

testament to how great the Celtics are but I think that also goes to why it's awesome that Jason Tatum didn't win the finals MVP like there's more stuff to be done for the Celtics team just within the team itself and you know Tatum said it after what was it game three or game four where he actually brought that up, where he said, look, you guys are going to say it was easy either way, so we're just going to have to come back and do it again next year. I love it. I think the conversation

being that the Celtics are going to win four to five titles over the next ten years is something that every... Well, if you don't now... Is this team good? If they don't win four titles in the next five for sure is this team good and maybe that'll be if they don't win four titles in the next five years is this team even worth a shit i mean i don't know you're gonna have to prove it who knows but i that that's kind of what the owner talked about when they were doing

the trophy ceremony was that going into this year and really since joe mizzou has been the head coach the expectation every year has been finals, has been winning the championship, not just going. So having Joe Mazzullo there, I think, will kind of make it a real possibility. Hey, they can block out the noise like they did this year, and they can do that every year going forward. And there is that real situation where people like D-Bud, who are Heat fans, who there was that little rivalry, now it's been changed. It's the Celtics League.

It will be going forward, and we'll see what happens with the rest of the East. But clearly, and Wendy kind of alluded to it too, like there are steps and levels to this shit, and the Celtics level is so much higher than everybody else. Effort-wise, talent-wise, buy-in-wise, culture-wise, fan-wise, home court advantage. Everything. I mean, it is a quite...

And a lot of people talking about Coach Emei last night on the air. Yeah, Emei, you know, because horny ass, could it just stop for a second? He'd be an NBA champion right now, too. Yeah, because obviously, whenever they lose him and Joe Mazzullo becomes head coach, people are like, he's hired this young kid.

What are we, from the back row, what are we? He's not going to do anything. He's got his hand in a jar. The boss is telling him he's just mailing it. Okay, that's who we are now. That's who we are now. Instead, might be the greatest coach in the history of basketball. We have no idea.

When it's all said and done, the guy might become the greatest coach of all time for how young he is, how successful he's been, and how he handles himself and operates on a day-to-day basis. It's like, what if Joe Mazzulla goes on to be the greatest of all time, and then everybody's going to look back on that situation that Coach E. May put himself into, actually. And out of it.

And back into it. And out of it. And back into it. And out of it. And out of it again. And back into it. That thing undefeated. On and on and on. All the time. Anyways, that seemingly blessing in disguise to get Joe Mazzola in here to play Mazzola basketball for this Boston Celtics team.

Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, who just won his own basketball championship this past weekend. Do you think this bodes well for your Florida Panthers, who have a game tonight in Game 5? Everybody thought that there was going to be maybe two sweeps. And then both the NBA and the NHL Game 4s resembled each other. Absolute ass-beatings. 38-point differential in the NBA Game 4,

where the Celtics lay the biggest egg that they've laid in however many years. And then eight was the Edmonton Oilers beat the Florida Panthers in Edmonton. Biggest differential and blah, blah, blah in the NHL. Do you think game five now, after watching last night, is the Florida Panthers to win? And are you guys dancing with the Stanley Cup tonight? I hope so. And like I said, I do not want to see them partying, obviously,

with the Celtics. But, yeah, I think we handle it. I think there's a good chance you see Stanley Cup and Larry next to each other. You're going to see Lordo and Larry just kind of bopping through Lyft. Barkov and Brian. Yeah. Like a nice little shuffle together. Yeah.

And I was in Lyft that night, 2011, when they came in there dropping blue and white confetti. Mark Cuban coming in with big tubs. Biggest Ace of Spades bottles I've ever seen. But I'm hoping that for my Panthers tonight. I think they figured it out. Captain over there, Sasha Barkov right over there. He's going to take care of business. They've got to slow down.

Obviously, those guys, 8-1. That's one of those times you come home after an ass beating like that. PK said they flew the wives out. They flew the family out. Now everybody's back home. 16 hours worth of flights. Yeah, tough. I think we win tonight in pretty dominant fashion.

All right, I'm excited to watch, obviously, Game 5 this evening. We'll be talking to Mark Messier, six-time champion, in a matter of moments. And, you know, is McDavid going to let it happen? We shall see. Joining us now is a man whose Stanley Cup has been within his family. Yeah. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Haw. Yeah. He's a college football national champion and a Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Haw. Yeah! Haw! A.J. dominating performance last night by the Celtics.

Obviously, it was like a 20-point spread seemingly early, and they maintained throughout the entirety, and the garden was electrifying, and then now tonight we got a game five

that could end it all. It's a great time in sports, A.J. Great time in sports. Yeah, great time in sports. We better soak it up right now as we got a game five that could end it all. It's a great time in sports, AJ. Great time in sports. Yeah, great time in sports. We better soak it up right now as we have it because we're staring at the abyss of the rest of the summer, I guess. Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is your first time?

There's still a lot of good stuff. But I kind of left that thing just wide open there for you to talk about. The Celtics or go Panthers there. And instead you go, boys, don't look now. Less than 24 hours away from the abyss. That's what you said. Dead time. I said enjoy it. We need to enjoy the time that we have right now. We enjoy the game tonight, and congrats to Con Man.

As Con Man, honestly, I feel like they should have reached out by now and given him an invite to one of these duck boats for the parade. Okay, I do not believe he has gotten an invite to a duck boat. I do not believe he is expecting an invite to a duck boat. No, absolutely not. But you in a duck boat would be sweet. I'm not saying no, but that's not something that we're looking for.

I'm just looking for these, boys. I don't care about the duck boats. I don't care about the champagne. I don't care about smoking the cigars, even though I will. What cigars are they? Kelsey Pauling is the best cigar in the game. I don't know what she did to make these cigars, but they are delicious.

I smoked one last night as a victory, of course. But we care about these. I think they're called Kingmakers. Kingmakers. Well, hey, isn't that fitting? Yeah, apropos. Ain't that fitting? Ain't that fitting for today?

But we don't care about the duck bone. Although I do believe, and I'm not 100% sure, this is, at least in my lifetime, the first parade, I think, on a Friday. Wendy wasn't kidding. I worry about the city of Boston on Friday because that rolling into the weekend, especially everybody is obviously going to be off. Are you going up there

and covering it for us? I don't think so, but I think I can have a... I think you should. Yeah, don't you think? You have to be there. Are you kidding me? You have to be there. We need to FaceTime from there, obviously. J.T.

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Soaking it in. You have to be at. I mean, that's something you've got to be at. It's been five long years since they've had a championship parade. I still remember the one we missed. Five long years. Championship parade. Think about it.

This is the city of Boston, AJ. It is phenomenal the amount of times that they just meet downtown and say, let's have a party because we're better than everybody else. That's what they're doing for another sport again. It truly is a phenomenal sports city. You have to respect it. How do you figure it out? How do they figure that out?

That's what I want to know. Everyone that that has multiple teams multiple professional franchises how did boston figure this out no they always say like well a lot of the oldest franchises in league so they've had a lot it's like a lot of people spend money a lot of people have been around a long time their current success is just crazy like they're going back to 2001 till now like just yeah when you look at the list, every city would dream of this. Yes, absolutely. And it's like, why are they able to just know? Like, you look at some of these Brad Stevens moves.

They had a tweet that had some of the moves he made, who he traded for who. And at the time, whenever you see the names, like what the reactions had to be. I don't know how Boston people did it, but it's like Brad Stevens making that move. And then Ainge being one of the greatest basketball minds in the history being there. It's like we talk about the Packers with the handoff from Brett Favre, compliment, to

Aaron Rodgers, to Jordan Love. It's like, how do they have it figured out? They do, though. And it's like Boston, all the teams somehow, you drink that water up there in the Revolution region and you somehow just figure it out. It doesn't make any sense, and there isn't a both better or worse fan base for it to happen to.

You know, it's like there's no better because how much everybody up there loves sports. Like, that's a very genuine love of sport. Worse because they are insufferable at times, but they have reason to be. It's like, it's a beautiful marriage of sport in region and they have it figured out up there. And honestly, it has to be fantastic to grow,

to have grown up, growed up, to grown up, to have grown up there. Honestly, genuinely, that would be so much fun. It's the luckiest thing by far.

I thank my parents every day for, you know, birthing me in massachusetts but i i genuinely do think and this is why robert craft for me at least will always be held in high regard is because of that like 2001 2003 like the patriots just became a dynasty overnight and i don't know if this is how it works but i do assume the other teams in the city were like hey we got to figure this shit out. If they can do this. Yeah, but isn't everybody saying, hey, we've got to figure this out?

That is what I'm saying. Boston is different. Boston, maybe the other teams felt like they feel pressure from their own fans. We know how passionate they are. They're probably saying, hey, the Patriots are winning all these Super Bowls. We need you guys to win. Talking to the Celtics, Red Sox, everybody. But what does that mean?

They just make smarter decisions because they're trying harder? I don't, I don't, you know what I mean? They figure the front offices out, I feel like. Boston, like every great team, like, has the front office figured out. And Boston seems to have done it. Cross the board. Joining us now is a man who I don't think has any ties to the city of Boston, but he does have ties to championships.

Six-time Stanley Cup champion. 16-time NHL All-Star. Ladies and gentlemen, the Messiah, Mark Messier. Yeah! Good to see you. Well, I do have ties to Boston there at 85 and 87

or 80, no, it was 85, 88 and 90. Okay, alright. You played for the Bruins? No, no, no. We beat them in the finals both years in 88 and 90. Okay. All right. You played for the Bruins? No, no, no. We beat them in the finals both years in 88. Oh, okay. I was about to say, I never heard of Mark Messier on the Bruins.

I have a deep, deep respect for Boston. Okay. So let's talk about the respect, obviously, for the teams that have won, that you've been on. And like, for instance, we just ran through what the city of Boston has been able to do across all sport. It's like, why? How? Why are some franchises seemingly so much better than others? What are the pieces?

Is it just like making the right decision at the right time? Is it by accident? Like, how do you think these incredible franchises get pieced together? What is the most important piece to the entire machine almost? And how do they hit it with all their teams in one city? It feels wild. Yeah, it's been pretty

incredible run they've had. You don't win by accident. You don't win because you're a good guy. You win because it starts at the ownership level in my opinion. They hire good people, let them do do their job and create a culture that's conducive to winning and in my experiences there that's what we had of course we had great players there but without a culture without some kind of guidance of the vision of what we're trying to accomplish and how we're going to accomplish it together winning just doesn't happen it takes a lot of

hard work it takes a lot of focus work. It takes a lot of focus. And you think about the great Boston teams that have been winning lately, starting with Mr. Kraft and what he created there and the people that he hired. And somehow or another, they're able to galvanize together and go on a journey to achieve something that it takes everybody in order to do. Anybody that's not pulling their weight at any given time uh it's not going to happen and i think it to your point it's culture it's hiring good people creating a vision and then executing that vision and leadership seemingly is just the mainstay into all of it you know because getting everybody to row in the same direction is not easy you know humans are naturally not going to want to do that some humans are not going to be able

to do that so for you to get everybody going, which is why Joe Mazzola, this dude, he's the youngest coach to make the NBA finals, youngest one to win an NBA final since 1969, Moose. Isn't that crazy that some people just have those leadership qualities? It is. And you're right. Leadership does play a big role once all the other things are in place. It's not easy getting 20 players, 25 players on the roster together. Everybody's motivated for different reasons. I always felt that if you're stuck trying to motivate everybody, you're going to be in for a long haul. I think more importantly is try to inspire everybody around you to be their best and give them a purpose, give them something to latch on to, a job that is required on the team.

And you've got to get to know the players. I think that you can't just expect to come to the rink at 10 o'clock in the morning for practice and leave at 1 o'clock and play a show up to the games at 7 o'clock and then leave at 10 o'clock. This is a deeper level of understanding with your teammates what motivates them where they've been their mothers their fathers their siblings what got them here and what challenges they face getting there and when you start to understand them as a deeper level it just has people you're able to connect with them and help help inspire them

to be the best they can be. Everybody's got mental blocks at this level. Even the best players have at times challenges to be their best and lose confidence. So leadership, culture, all the things that you're talking about are critical

to a team's success. We just listened to a man with a nickname of the captain talk, basically. You just did a leadership TED talk right there. You're going to listen to that back? You listen to that back, and you're like, damn, I did a pretty good job breaking down what leadership is right there. All of it, the investment, the time, the getting to know people's why,

like that's a big deal. And, you know, they always say they don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. It's like that's a real deal whenever you're building a team. Now, let's talk about the NHL. Let's talk about this Florida Panthers team that has seemingly been doing this for some years. Let's talk about an Oilers team that wins by a touchdown in game four with their backs against the wall. Tonight, what do you think reigns true?

Do you think it follows suit as the NBA where the dominant Panthers team get back to being who they were for the first three games, just like the Celtics did? Or is what McDavid and the Oilers started in game four up in that loud barn of Edmonton going to carry on? How do you think this one goes tonight, Moose? It's been a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde series, in my opinion. You look at the first game, the Oilers looked great for the first two periods there, but they couldn't solve Bobrovsky. Florida was able to lock it down in the third period and get the 3-0 win. Then Florida kind of got back to their game in games two and three

and shut the Oilers down. And then, of course, what we saw in game four where the Oilers exploded. But game one could have been the same as game four. So we haven't seen both teams play their best at the same time in this series it's going to be interesting to see the oilers because as the series go on to games five six seven but the level of playing field kind of uh comes to a comes to a brink where both teams start to play well is the oilers best game good enough to compete with the florida's best game that's what we haven't seen in the series so far my guess is we're going to see it tonight

and we're going to get the answer uh but later in the series both teams kind of find their game you got to expect the best players to be the best players you got to expect the goaltending to be great you got to expect the defenses to tighten up on both sides and if that happens, is Edmonton's best good enough to beat Florida's best? Go ahead, AJ. You mentioned Edmonton kind of figuring out Bobrovsky last game. Is that something that can kind of unlock a team or can you

figure out, hey, does a goalie have to tell or some kind of something that he does where you figure it out and you feel like, hey, we can attack it and keep him guessing? Is that something that actually could happen in a series like this? Well know uh for one he's had been on a remarkable run if you just look at his body he worked through the playoffs it's just been incredible and very few games have gone that way that in the game for it that uh but you also have to look at the chances that the Oilers got Florida got really loose in that game there they gave the

Oilers a chance to get flying up and down the ice and turn it into a track meet, and that's where Edmonton likes to live. But for good players like McDavid, Dreitz, the guys that are expected to score, once you start to get that feel, you get the confidence back, and the game seems to open

up a little bit there. Everything kind of seems to be a little bit easier on the ice. And once you give good players like that confidence, it of seems to be a little bit uh easier uh on the ice and uh once you give good players like that confidence it's going to be a different story now it's going to be hard to kind of get that genie back in the bottle for florida we've seen them do it for the last couple years when they get to the game they play a stifling uh defense and more importantly they're really on the forecheck they got a little loose in the in the game four the defense and the forwards got a little loose in game four.

The defense and the forwards had a big gap between them. They weren't connected. And when they did that, the Oilers star players were able to take advantage of it, especially McDavid and the guys that are expected to score. One of those goals there that we showed during the highlight, obviously they scored eight of them. So it is, I forget, it might have been the third one we showed. It was literally five on three, and they were in complete unison.

It looked like practice. It looked like showed. It was literally five on three, and they were in complete unison. It looked like practice. It looked like literally a practice rep of five on three as they just casually boom, boom, bang, goal. And then it was a chill celebration too. Like, yeah, that was the easiest rep of all time. Once you take the top off the bucket, you know, sometimes it gets a little bit bigger, which goes back to a conversation about the Panthers, one of their best players.

Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Moose, so when you're looking at Bobrovsky, obviously throughout the playoffs, next to maybe Shusterkin, he's been the best goalie out there. After a game like that, when you get pulled and let in as many goals as he did when he's been so dominant, do you think any doubt starts to creep in his head a little bit? Like, okay, we let them get back into the series

and for edmonton now are they just dumping rubber on net just trying to get as many shots as they can at him to kind of open that seal again tonight dump rubber dump yeah that's a great question uh look at it everybody's human and uh the fact that uh that burbrowski the way he's played anything, it's going to give the Oilers confidence that they can score on him. Now, I would say that in order to be playing at this time of year and to be under the pressure that these players are expected to play and how they're expected to play and how they're able to, you know, supposed to be able to stop the puck and score the goals. You have to be unbelievably tough mentally. There's a lot of outside chatter that starts to come in from the media and the press and guys that haven't scored and they're not playing up to expectations.

Is he hurt? You know, all that is true at this time of year, but you have to be so tough mentally that you don't let it creep into your consciousness. And that's one of the tough ones. We always talk about the skill level. We always talk about how hard it is to play and all the skating and technique and skill levels and all that but we don't spend enough time talking about to be a champion you got to be tough mentally you cannot

be uh afraid of the moment you can't let uh failure uh dictate how you're going to play from ship to ship never mind game to game and series to series, you've got to be able to have enough fortitude and resilience to go muck through it all because it's hard. And, of course, when you're expected to score and the other team is trying to shut you down, it's hard. When you're expected to stop the puck and not let easy goals in, that's hard. And if at any time you start to crack mentally and start to second-guess yourself, that's when bad things happen.

Now we'll see whether they've been able to get Bobrowski. His record shows that he's able to rebound after a tough loss and get Brady back to his game. It'll be interesting to see what happens tonight. Knock if you buck, Bob. Can't wait to watch him get back in between the pipes down there in South Florida. Speaking of South Florida, massive Panthers fan has a question for Moose. Go ahead, D-Budge. Yeah, we need the whole

squad to rebound, obviously. You spoke about it here on the program a couple of times how hard closeout games are. And obviously coming from Edmonton after an embarrassing loss like that, do you think that's more of a, I know you said you're not really looking for motivation, but more of a motivating factor now that you kind of got

humble at this Panthers team with another opportunity to close out in game five? Well, you know, that's interesting because, you know, you try to kind of compartmentalize game to game, and a lot of players would tell you that the momentum doesn't carry over from one game to the next, and that is probably true. In my experiences, being in this situation, coming home up 3-1 to close it out.

It happened in 1994. We lost the first game at home, won the next three, and there we come back to New York and Vancouver. The parade routes mapped out the celebrations. Everybody's in town. Where's the party going to be? Your babysitters, family. It's hard to win that game because of the distractions that's uh that are around it

um you know for edmonton they're coming in here there's nobody around this them against the world they're down 3-1 there's nothing to lose the pressure uh they're still hungry but that little bit of difference here can sometimes tip the scale one way or another uh it took us to the game so you win and of course in 94 went we went back to Vancouver and got beat there and then had to come home and win in Game 7. This is a hard game to win. Game 5, there's more pressure on Florida tonight than you would think

being up 3-1 in the series, coming home and having a chance to win the Stanley Cup. It's a hard game to win. We'll see how they handle it. Speaking of having celebrations already planned, I see you've been wearing that elbow room hat you know we can see in the the elbow room hat obviously one of the greatest bars in the world everybody knows about it that has gone down to lotty dotty um you

obviously had a time in edmonton as well from what we are. Has this been a run for you where you've been able to maybe receive some flowers for everything you've given to hockey? Have you felt that while covering the finals here with ESPN? Because the way P.K. Subban is keeping us updated on how this is all going in front of the program, it feels like you're getting a chance to hear from the hockey world about their appreciation for everything you've done for sport. Have you felt that? I have felt that it was amazing going back to edmonton even here in florida so many great hockey fans but you know i played a lot of years in the playoffs

and the playoffs become a war of attrition for a player like you got to be tough mentally you got to be tough physically you got to stay in but i'll tell you what being on the media side, this is a war of attrition, boy. A lot of booze. Hey, were those big old beers? Are we having beers at night or are we having mixed drinks? What are we doing right here? Are we having barley sandwiches? I'm a tequila drinker. I've got to keep it real

with the tequila. I appreciate that. We're not feeling any bloated. We're housing tequila. And elbow room. Oh, my God. Messier, you're the man, dude. You are the absolute man. Having a good time.

As you should. You've earned it. And we've appreciated the way you guys have covered the NHL all year and certainly in the playoffs. We'll be watching tonight. What time do we start tonight? I think we're at 7 o'clock on the point, the pregame show, and then 8 o'clock on ABC. Come and see us. We're going to have a good time watching tonight. What time do we start tonight? I think we're at 7 o'clock on the point, the pregame show and then 8 o'clock on ABC.

Come and see us. We're going to have a good time again tonight. We cannot wait. We appreciate you. Tonight's set will probably look a little different than the Edmonton one. Hopefully. Hey, the set in Edmonton was perfect. That's just what Edmonton is. It was awesome. I heard they were on top of you guys.

It felt like that, huh? Oh yeah, that crowd. I tell you, I've been in on top of you guys. It felt like that, huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That crowd, I tell you, I've been in a lot of arenas, a lot of big moments, a lot of fan bases cheering their teams, but that was incredible. Anybody that was there will remember that the rest of their lives. Oh, hockey's awesome.

Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Messier. We appreciate you. Yeah, Moose! Alright, Moose. Six-time Stanley Cup champion. Dog. That's a lot. That's a lot of winning. Especially with the one without a grab.

How many does Sid have? Three. Yeah. Four? Three or four? Three. I think it's three. But Olympic gold medal, too.

He won it, obviously. Same a bit. Yeah, for Canada. Didn't love that. Game winner. It was such a good shot. Was that overtime? Oh, yeah. Such a good shot. That was overtime? Oh, yeah.

Such a good shot. Beating Ryan Miller. Such a Sidney Crosby shot. Just like no angle. There's that clip of him telling a gynla right before the play, like, hey, get me the puck. Yeah, I'll be there. Find me.

You know how this works. Hockey's awesome, dude. It really is. And tonight should be electrifying down there in Sunrise, Florida. I think everybody's expecting the Panthers to win. Yes. For sure. But McDavid, you know, he's the best player in hockey.

Yeah, that story of him, could you imagine? Like he would become one of the all-time greats if he were to come back down 3-0. Especially in Edmonton. Yeah. Because if they get back there, obviously it'll be absolutely bananas. But then you think about what could be with Jay Tatum. Doing this all over that arena.

With middle school friend Kachuk with a Lord of... The photo of Tatum with the cup in Kachuk. They have to get a school bus seat. So we can really... It has to be.

They're probably already filming it right now. That's probably why they're heading down there. Netflix filming, obviously. Panthers game five. Kachuk, Jay Tatum's middle school friend, obviously, is a moment that never happens. Celtics have been documenting the entire season for

a Last Dance-esque documentary at the end of it, which obviously we're here now. Okay, I'm excited to see any behind-the-scenes stuff. Just like that Hard Knocks announcement yesterday of the entire AFC North during the season, that should be fantastic. Obviously the Giants here in the offseason and in training camp there at the...

Chicago Bears. Which is going to be amazing because Caleb Williams' first taste as an NFL quarterback. We'll get to see how he handles it all. And as an investment businessman leader. Yeah, he's got a capital. Minus 88. There it is.

That's now. 888, I believe. Not just 88. Investors, possibly you. Minus 888. He's getting into a little venture capitalism, I do believe. Smart. He's made $10 million, I guess, at USC, right?

He was the highest paid NIL player in all of college in the history of NIL. I think Caleb had the most amount of money. So he's been rich for a little bit now. And obviously, number one pick in the NFL. You're going to get more money. He just wants to make sure his money's working for him. When he lays his head down at night, he wants to make sure that his money isn't sleeping.

His money's always working. Smart. And I respect that. As long as you've got the right people making decisions, and if you're the person, you make some good sound moves. Because if you make a couple and they hit, bingo. You invest in, like, floating furniture, you know. Ooh, that might be tough. That's not going to be great. You know, there's a big difference.

But that's the investment game, and Caleb will ace it, we assume. If you're good at football, too, that will absolutely help your investment portfolio. That will help a lot. That could help a lot. Yeah, because that next deal, you see Trevor Lawrence just got $275 million. Now, actual $147 million or something like that. And then what's real, what's not real, we have no idea. But you get that amount of money, now you can really start doing some investing.

And I do believe, and I appreciate them making a big deal out of Caleb doing his investment thing, especially as a rookie. I like that he's a businessman in this entire thing. I think every quarterback has some sort of investment branch in their world. And that's good business, baby. So I appreciate that Caleb's doing it immediately upon entering the NFL because he's already got that NIL money. Yeah, pretty sweet. but if they don't play well as far as being good at football is this the type of stuff that comes back and kind of bites him in the ass or no you know because this

thing could save because this could be uh but anything you do you can't do anything worrying about that as a quarterback because you know if you do not no matter how well he plays they're still going to be people oh get in the play the playbook. You know, the first incomplete pass he has. Oh, how's your hedge fund going, buddy? Like, people just don't understand. Yeah, and if it's Caleb directly, and he plays football really well, and also fielding pitches and negotiating acquisitions and stuff, that is awesome.

This is weapon through and through. Or if it's somebody that he trusts, and he's co-working and stuff, that is awesome. This is weapon through and through. Or if it's somebody that he trusts and he's co-working and behind, it's like whatever the case, we hope it works out. Hope you get to a billion, pal. Speaking of a billion, there's been a few athletes who have made to a billion. LeBron James is one of them. There's a lot of questions around what the hell is going on with his team, his life, and his future.

Joining us now, senior NBA insider for FanDuel TV and the athletic, ladies and gentlemen, the ever-handsome, great season two, Shams Sharaya. Hey, Shams. What's up, Shams? How's our guy BC doing? Is he going to head to the parade on Friday? Do we have a parade report?

Shams, you tell us. How do you think he's doing? Look at this guy. Yeah, he's great. He looks like all the fans i saw last night leaving yep bingo that is you're plastered right now it's okay oh not even smoking a cigar just yet although he did have a great time last night i facetimed him as the game was ending last night and boy the, the look of pure joy on his face,

dancing around his apartment. I assume you saw a lot of that in Boston. And thank you for your coverage all NBA season long. Congratulations on a great season, Choms. Let's get to now the topics of discussion. Tatum's about to sign a $300-plus million deal, I guess. When is that taking place? And that'll lock down the two pillars for the Celteltics for the next four or five years right yeah the celtics and jason tatum will start beginning talks on that five-year 350 million

dollar deal that'll happen after everyone's sobered up the the whole team is in miami right now uh they're they're having a great time oh yeah and then it's gonna be friday i would expect some point after that jason tatum is agent the celtics get down to brass tacks i mean at this point it's really does he have a player option what are the kickers what are the bonuses uh but the celtics moved quick on jalen brown last year in the summertime getting his extension done he became the the highest-paid player of NBA history when he signed that five-year, $304 million deal last summer. This year, a summer later, Jason Tatum is going to become

the highest-paid player in NBA history. But this is just going to start the trend. Nikola Jokic, Luka Doncic, there's going to be players here that come to follow. Shea Gills Alexander. One of these days, a player's going to end up making $90 million to $100 million per year. That point's not going to be the next couple years, but Shea Gills Alexander, Luka Doncic, Nicole Jokic,

all are going to be in line for massive Supermatch extensions in the coming years as well after Jason Tatum. And Joker's horse just won. Congratulations to Joker, obviously, his horse. Got a big-time dub last night as the NBA season was wrapping up in Boston. How does this work, Shams, just for somebody that doesn't pay close

enough attention? In our league, the NFL, you can't just give everybody the biggest contract on earth because there's a salary cap and other shit like that. How are they able to just pay people more money than anybody's ever been paid in back-to-back off-seasons and still have everybody on their roster? Is Brad Stevens some sort of wizard?

How does this work out? Essentially, luxury tax and second apron. Those are interesting phrases. Those are obviously, you know, the luxury tax. There's tax payments in every league, really. And when you think about the NBA, the ownership groups that are willing to pay and spend the top dollar and that was the question around these celtics is they go year after year after year jaylen brown you think about his eight seasons in boston they've been to the conference finals i think four times they've been

in the finals twice now they finally won it jason tatum similarly they've been to the conference finals they've been to nba finals but to keep these teams together it is expensive the celtics will be among the teams they're going to end up paying the most luxury tax next season. They're going to be faced with a heavy tax bill. When you think about you have Jason Tatum, you have Jalen Brown. Chris Osborne is locked in. Drew Hardy is on a massive deal. Derek White, you're going to need to resign to a massive extension as well.

So your top five players, your starters, they've got the best starting five in the NBA. And that starting five is going to be also the most expensive. And when you think about it, they're going to have Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum at over $600 million combined over the next five years once Jason Tatum signs that contract extension. And ownership, it says you see this TD Garden. You know how many beers we sell here? They have to be just willing to pay top dollar.

And we saw Joe Lacob do it year after year. Steve Ballmer's done it year after year. And if the Celtics didn't win this year, then you would have heard questions about the roster. Who do you keep? Who do you trade? But this is a team that's doubled down on their guys, especially Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.

Everyone wants to pit these two together. I remember I spoke to Jalen Brown one-on-one last year. What he told me is he knows he's a part of Jason Tatum's legacy. He knows that they're part of each other's legacy, and I think they're going to be intertwined for the remainder of their careers. Yeah, and it seems like they get along just fine. One's 27, one's 26. I was reminded today by Hembo that when Jalen Brown was drafted, it was not a very popular draft pick. And then obviously Tatum never gets the conversation about being the future of the NBA ever. So those

two have probably felt pretty disrespected alongside of each other for a long time. That can grow quite a bond, even though it does feel like the national media, sports media, basketball media has been trying to say like, well, who's the alpha here? You know, an entire thing.

They seemingly don't care about that at all. And if they're both wealthy, it's like that settles that entire potential pettiness as well in Boston. It's been brilliantly run, seemingly. Yeah, to that point, too. Yeah, legit. That's it. That's all it's about, winning.

Winning in titles and the fact that they both really respect each other, that's the biggest thing. There's all it's about. Winning. Winning in titles and the fact that they both really respect each other. That's the biggest thing. There's not this ego. There's not this one guy might be better. There was a couple of years ago where a lot of people were asking, should the Celtics trade Jalen Brown? And what did Jason Tatum do? He went out publicly. He said, I want Jalen Brown here. I don't want him gone. He went privately, said the same thing.. They had conversations about Kevin Durant a couple years ago, and they made offers that included Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown didn't

let that affect him. He kept through it, and now he's a Finals MVP. That's awesome. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Sean, to the point about the draft, too. The first pick and the second pick were Lakers and Sixers in both of those drafts. People who are pissed off as Sixers or Lakers fans, you kind of screwed that up on your own.

But we were talking about this earlier as well, Shams. At what point did Brad Stevens kind of like know, hey, I'm a great coach, but at the same time, I was kind of born to be the president of basketball operations. Like Danny Ainge said that when Brad first got promoted. But is there any thought that he'll ever go back to the bench to be a coach or will he be the president of basketball operations for Boston for the next you know 25 years hopefully and keep this thing going Brad Stevens will be there really as long as he wants to keep doing the job and as long as this run and this

core group can stay together I mean that's going to be brad steven's task is continue to build around these guys and and and really keep this team a championship contender because they've got a window here when you think about it we thought denver might have had a window but some of those guys you know fluctuating in play and they don't have the star power that this group has this team legitimately has a window here over the next three to five years to be a dynasty of sorts similar to what we saw with the warriors. They should be in the conference. They have been in the conversation already, but they should be in the finals really every year. Next year is going to be championship robust for this team as well.

For Brad Stevens, it was interesting. He was so good so early in his NBA coaching career. He was really looked at as a wizard. I mean, there was talk that he was as good as really any coach that's taken a step foot as a coach. But you saw near the end of it, and he spent eight years as head coach there. Eight years is a really, really long time. And when you don't get to the finals, when you don't win at all, those eight years become challenging. You can make as many conference finals appearances as you want.

They never made it to the NBA finals with Brad Stevens. And I think it took a lot of self-awareness for him to realize, hey, we need to find someone else. There needs to be a new voice. And he did that. And he was part of hiring Ime Udoka. Then we know what happened there. And then bringing Joe Mazzulla.

Joe Mazzulla, Brad Stevens, they've been attached. They're really close. Brad Stevens is, you know, the one thing you kept hearing, even last year when Joe Mazzulla's job was under fire at different points, you kept hearing Brad Stevens supports him 100%. That's his guy, and we're seeing it. He's got a lot of Brad in him, but obviously he does things his own way. He has

interesting press conferences. Joe Mazzulla is his own human being. Yeah, Joe Mazzulla's a dog, and there's a chance he goes down when it's all said and done as the greatest coach in the history of basketball. And obviously the people around him have a lot of belief in him for good reason. And he seemingly has a mindset of somebody who's never going to be satisfied. So any coach that I've ever met that's been worth anything is normally a never satisfied person because we got to get better tomorrow.

We got to win today. Yeah, you just won last night, though. Yeah, but tomorrow somebody else is doing something. So we got to do something and we got to beat them at it. And that's just like how coaches are. Might come across as miserable for some people, but boy, after a win, inside what they feel, you'll never, ever feel. And that's a coaching DNA, and he seemingly has it

and has had it since West Virginia, which is awesome to see. Look at that emotion. We weren't seeing this emotion during the regular season. Yeah, bingo. That's the only reason he doesn't. Exactly. They have 10 minutes of happiness. Yeah.

Oh, my God, he's coaching. Very similar to Belichick. Bingo. Even how he handles the media and the post-game stuff, like his messaging. And then, obviously, he saves it for that celebration in the arena until, what, 3 in the morning. Nobody cares.

Been coaching on, what, a torn meniscus since March. Needs off-season surgery. Just a dog. Yeah, and legitimately, he now has a resume. They were, like, because there's a lot of people. I saw some people, not a lot of people, but some people say, hey, Joe Mazzulli, you're not Bill Belichick. Okay? Bill Belichick has eight rings.

Okay? You have, you're the youngest coach to make the NBA Finals. You can't just act like bill belichick in your press conferences that's not how this works i saw people that is not how we feel i do not feel that way i love bill belichick's press conferences i love however the hell anybody wants to handle their press conferences but people are saying now he's the youngest coach to ever win a title since 1969 it's like he can do whatever the hell he wants yeah because he has already shown that he's successful bill russell not ao, Bill Russell, not a bad category to be in.

Not a bad category. Congrats, Joe. Hell yeah, Joe. Congrats, Joe. Now, who's another coach that can maybe fall in there? Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Sean, speaking of coaches, J.J. Redick. Looks like the deal is final in L.A., so congrats to you.

J.J. Redick? Sounds like you were correct the whole time. What does the deal look like, though? We saw it on the internet. Feels like it. And J. Will. Oh, he did a similar deal that they offered Hurley? What did the deal look like, though? We saw it on the internet. It feels like it. And J. Will. Oh, he did a similar deal that they offered Hurley? Like, what's the money like?

Do you have any idea? And J. Will also said this morning on GetUp, I believe. Yep. He said. Yeah, go ahead. There's not an agreement, as far as I know, for J.J. Redick. As of right now, we're speaking right now almost 1.45 p.m. Eastern time. As of right now, we're speaking right now almost 1.45 p.m. Eastern time.

This day is J.J. Redick went in to L.A. on Saturday and had in-person meetings, multiple hours with the Lakers brass, with Rob Palenka, the general manager, vice president of Bassler Operations, ownership as well. I'm told his meetings on Saturday were very impressive. All the characteristics you see in J.J. Redick that you could envision in J.J. Redick, those all shine there. Of course, we don't know exactly what kind of coach he's going to be until he's in that seat. When you deal with adversity, when you deal with losing three games in five nights, when you deal with a player, when you deal with a locker room issue, there's things that come about.

You guys all played. You guys have been a part of it. We've covered it as well. There's always issues that come up. How will J.J. Redick, how would he handle that when he's in that come about. You guys all played. You guys have been a part of it. We've covered it as well. There's always issues that come up. How will J.J. Redick, how would he handle that when he's in that situation? But listen, as far as where his situation and where he stands in this process, I said it May 24th. I said June 4th.

And his status as a frontrunner to be the next Lakers coach has not changed since those dates. It has not changed now. I think what the Lakers are doing now, Rob Palenka and that group is doing now, is taking the next few days after the NBA Finals, now that J.J. Redick is done with his finals duties, and now finally get to making a decision and getting to it as far as head coach. They do want to have their head coach in place by the draft. The draft is next week. So last thing you want to do is be going to a coaching hire on draft week.

So time is of the essence for the Lakers. Time is of the essence. And obviously for a while now we've been talking about J.J. Redick becoming the Lakers head coach. And then I wonder if he was just talking to Palenka. He was just pulling up clips from Mind the Game. Oh, yeah. Just like I said.

The question you're asking here is how would I run against this defensive front? We actually got a clip for you here, and I'm talking to LeBron. He just runs it like that's his pitch deck. This is exactly what I would do. And they 100% watch that podcast, right, whenever Lakers front office people, when they were wondering if J.J. Redick could be a head coach because I would assume, and this is me just taking a guess

for a guy that's a former player and now he's getting into coaching. When he was on teams for a very long time, I think he made the playoffs for I forget how many years straight. Like 13 straight years. He was on teams at one. I assume he was looked at as a player coach. I assume did a lot of leadership shit

on those particular teams, just the way he handles himself, and now he's getting into coaching. I assume he thinks he's a lot more experienced than people think he is because of what he's been able to do as a player out there. But him going, he has to win immediately. That's what has to happen.

One of the stars of that team is going to go down as one of the top two greatest players of all time. And now he has a massive question mark. Go ahead, D-Bunch. Yeah, and obviously we're talking about that like it's an interview process. LeBron allegedly was spotted sitting down with Nick Nurse, Daryl Morey, Josh Harris. Obviously those guys have some big wigs in Philly. Any chance, any chance LeBron LA? It's upcoming offseason.

I cannot confirm that picture. What are you talking about? We can see it right there, Shams. Put the picture back. That's LeBron. I can't confirm the validity of that picture. What do you mean?

What do you mean? What are you talking about? Validity. What does that mean? I AI maybe? What do you mean? What are you talking about? Validity. What does that mean? I mean, listen. I haven't gotten any sense other than LeBron James and the Lakers. The Lakers want to give him any contract really in order to keep him. I think there is a – He says that's a real photo.

I've never seen it before. All right. Okay. That's what you're saying right now? That's how we need to view this? Is this a potential fake? This is a fugaz potential. We're going to look into it.

We're going to look into it. Okay. No, you know, you son of a bitch. It's on the internet. The internet never, we never know what's real.

What is real? But obviously this would be a massive ordeal. Would it not be if it was taking place? And are these meetings taking place for LeBron? Because we all, this would be, this would be massive, massive, massive levels of tampering if this were real. But we're going to look into it.

We're going to look into it. I mean, listen, for the Lakers, they have wanted to bring LeBron James back. I think there's been an interest with him as far as being in L.A. This is where he's been the last few years. And obviously he's got up to two. We've said it here. He's got up to two. We've said it here. He's got up to two more NBA seasons, one to two more NBA seasons left. Does he relocate?

What happens with his future? We'll see. His player option is on June 29th. The good thing for LeBron James, he's going to know exactly where his son, Bronny James, is going to be before then. And I do think his player option decision will go up until the 29th. The draft is next week wednesday and thursday we'll know exactly where bronnie james goes does he go to the suns in the

first round or the second round does he go to the lakers in the second round we're gonna know that answer before lebron james has a thought in his future and it's it's hard not to say if the lakers draft bronnie james is that a tip in their cap does that help them out in terms of inciting and wanting LeBron to be there? And I think him and J.J. Redick, it would be really negligent for us to sit here and say that if you're the Lakers, if you're anyone that's looked into J.J. Redick as a head coaching candidate, that you're not looking at his podcast with LeBron James, the way he's able to break the game down. And when you talk about him as a player, he's a basketball genius. And he's a hoop junkie. He loves to talk about hoop.

And I think those are qualities that you need to have because when you're a head coach in the NBA, Pat, your work ethic, you're tireless. This job does not end. And if J.J. Redick understands that, if he knows that, he's built for it. And I think he would be built for that challenge. And at the end of the day, he has to want to coach really badly. And from what I'm told, he does. Okay, so all indications are that J.J. Redick, just like you said,

during the playoffs – Wait, who? Well, you shut up. Oh, J.J. Redick. Yeah, so just like we thought it would, though, with the playoffs ending and him calling, it felt like it would be a situation where maybe distraction but then now that it's over feels like all roads lead to jj reddick being the lakers head coach which is obviously lebron james co-host in that podcast and then if they were to draft ronnie as well remember they said that lebron james is not a

part of the hiring for us no he's not and we all thought that was stupid if that was true. But also, we know that's probably not true in this entire thing. It's like, all right, here we go. He has stayed clear from this process. Of course he has, yes. But if they hire his podcast host and draft his son, that would certainly be. The big thing for the Lakers and for J.J. Redick, potentially as head coach, would be Anthony Davis and his involvement. Because there were plays down the stretch of the game.

In the playoffs last year in the regular season where you saw Anthony Davis, his touches wouldn't be there in the fourth quarter. So that's why you hear a name like James Regal. They left in New Orleans. They had the relationship from New Orleans and James Regal being an offensive-minded coach, being able to prioritize Anthony Davis. But if Anthony Davis and J.J. Reddick can get aligned on that,

can get aligned on the offensive side of the ball, I think that only bodes even better for J.J. Reddick because this hire is not for next season or the next two years. This hire is for four or five years. Anthony Davis will be a Laker if he wants to be, longer than LeBron James has left in a Laker uniform. Okay. All eyes are on all the drama around the court

for the next few months as the NBA offseason officially launched today after the Celtics win their 18th NBA title. We can't thank you enough for joining us. All season long, Shams, you crushed it, man. You crushed it. Now, don't sleep, though, because we need these breaking news

the second it happens. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen,shirani yeah baby shami jj reddick okay yeah why won't he confirm it why won't he just say okay yeah it's happening i would assume it's because there isn't like a deal done he's one of those uh what are they called oh journalists yeah that's how they are now granted journalists obviously never get anything wrong. They probably agree to terms by now, it sounds like. For sure. Yeah, and, like, whenever it was made so public what they offered Coach Hurley,

you asked the right question. They're like, how much is he? Is that just, okay, that's the deal then? That's what we're doing? Like, that's what I would do if I was JJ. Or JJ's like, hey, give me a couple bucks more than you offered that guy. Yeah, so, you know, I played him. They can't offer him anything less than that reported offer, though, right?

What, Hurley? That's bad. Dude, when I say this, like, it sounds crazy because of how much respect I have for Coach Dan Hurley. But as soon as that money gets made public, all of a sudden you know how much money they were willing to spend on a coach. Yeah. And it's like, if you're really the guy that they want to be the coach, like, okay, I know that you allotted for this amount of money. Like, that would be tough for me not to be like, well, that's the deal. For sure. Anybody else want to hire J.J.?

Cool. That's what I'm saying. He needs to drum up some other interest from other teams to say, hey, you need to give me more than you offered early. That's going to be tough with where the coaches, whatever the case, J.J. seems to have all the cards, which is a fantastic thing. We'll be back tomorrow. Are the Panthers going to be Stanley Cup champions,

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of LeBron with that meeting. And how about Sean's saying? I've never seen that, but that would be a massive tampering situation. We will look into that. Total Pro Sports, which has broken news before. So this is, you know, it's not like LeBron, Josh Harris, Daryl Moore. And I don't know how they could tell that from the quality of the photo. I guess you could just make a lot of assumptions there. But Sean Stroney said, if this is real, this is a big deal.

This is tampering. It's a gold check. Yeah. Total Pro Sports, they're very active on the old act. They were worried they would do this in private. They were worried about tampering. They would do this in the office somewhere. You would think, yeah.

If this was right next to – I mean, they do have a little corner spot. LeBron's so tall, though. There's no such thing as a problem. What if he's just talking about Bronny, though? What if he's saying, hey, you've got to take Bronny? You don't worry about me. This isn't about me. I want you to take Bronny. I mean, what if this isn just talking about brawny though what if he's saying hey you got to take brawny you i don't you don't worry about me this isn't about me i want you to take brawny i mean what if this isn't real at all possible but with this is three years old bingo like there's so much that could potentially go into this but i'm sure lebron would have an out yeah oh yeah yeah not

about like you got to take lebron or brawny for me but yeah brawny would be a great fit obviously i've watched him play his whole life do Do they have meetings with parents before draft? They do now. Yeah. LeBron's kids get to know the coaches. He's also part of Fenway Sports Group ownership. You wonder if they're talking about stuff like that when it comes to running a basketball

team as someone who's interested in buying a basketball team. He can legitimately cook up a thousand different answers if this was real, but the reason why it's such a big deal is because, allegedly, Philly's going all in. And it's like, if Philly's going to make a move, they bring LeBron James into town, hold the phone. So now he's got a seven-footer on his team who can move.

And they're thinking about Paul George as well going over there. Maxie, yeah. Maxie, for sure. He flies. He flies. They're saying he's faster than any human ever seen on a basketball court. And then you've got LeBron, wait a minute, hold the phone. 76ers all of a sudden knocking at the Celtics' door.

There is no Dynasty. Why? Because the Sixers pulled it off. We shall see. Talking about being able to talk your way out of anything, Roger Goodell, I guess, testified for four hours yesterday. Wow. Is that what was reported?

Didn't break a sweat or what? I would assume it was a business 101 class. You that what was reported? Didn't break a sweat or what? I would assume it was a business 101 class. You know what I mean? Goodell was called as a witness by the NFL as the trial for the lawsuit filed by Sunday Ticket subscribers entered its third week and was on stand for nearly four hours. Four hours.

How many sips of water do you think? Did they give him peanut M&Ms? They better have. We have been clear throughout that it is a premium product, not just on pricing, but quality, Goodell said during cross-examination in a Los Angeles courtroom. Fans make that choice whether they wanted it or not. I'm sure there were fans who said it was too costly. Just like we fucking said it would.

Roger Goodell just sat there on business. Yeah. That is literally what he did. Obviously, we all wish that everything was cheaper. And I wish that Sunday ticket was cheaper. I think I've bought Sunday ticket on four different emails because I forgot logins and I need to see something kick off in a matter of moments. So I've done it more so than anybody because I'm just careless and everything like that. But it was going to be tough for anybody to pin businesses on doing something with their pricing on something that isn't the actual product.

This is just an additional thing. So I appreciate the fact that they tried to lower the rates for everybody. And I appreciate that they thought that they were going to be able to get billions of dollars for people that have been subscribers for Sunday Ticket. That's a good play. We appreciate you trying to get us money. I was a part of the, what was that? Ed O'Bannon. Ed O'Bannon lawsuit.

I got a check for like $275. I was pumped up about that. But it always felt like Roger Goodell was going to walk in there and just say, yeah, so what? That's really from learning of it in less than 12 hours, and seemingly that's exactly what he did, AJ. Yeah, I know. Watch Rog walk in here.

I know we talked about it yesterday and you said, you know, the hand in the pocket, just exuding confidence, like no chance. Hopefully the people that were inside that were going to cross-examine him didn't see him walk in. They were already intimidated, no question, before they even saw him get in the elevator.

Yeah, just looking up how he talks and responds, I assume the lawyers do that whenever you're about to cross-examine somebody who's so been publicly displayed as a speaker. I assume you do film study on somebody you're about i don't know because i don't know the lawyer world as well but for four hours i assume he put on a show in there yeah that is exactly he was prepped you know he was prepared better than anybody by his lawyers by everybody around him like roge knows what he's. Raj, if they say anything you don't know the answer to, just say, this was an added feature

that was just a bonus to our... It is still free for local television channels. You even got bunny ears you can watch on there. This is just, you know, we cooked up a new... You know, different products have different qualities of stuff. This is just one of our high-end stuff. Sorry, but for four hours, is that all he said? I wonder if that's literally what he did.

And why do we not have more from this other than just one newspaper? That was a good question Florio asked yesterday. Well, I guess now that, like, after you hear how he responded to, like, yeah, this was open and shut. It's like it is a premium product. Like, if you don't have this, chances are you're getting to watch six of the 16 games every single week. People can

bitch about it, but like you said, there's two games on CBS most weeks. There's two or three games on Fox. There's NBC. If you don't want to subscribe to this, hey, guess what? That's the cost of doing business. You're not always going to get to watch your favorite team.

If you want to, then you have to fucking pony up and spend $500. We're giving you a lot of shit already as is for free. Think about Roger going, to the lawyer, do you know social media? Yeah. We put highlights of every team out literally in real time

with our NFL thing. Teams themselves put out highlights, so you can actually see the game and cover the game through social media, which is obviously free through a downloadable app on their phone, which once again is available to anybody that has a phone. But should we look out for the people that don't have phones? We do. They got bunny ear TVs.

We could also, like, just how deep he could have went as, like, in our eyes. We are not lawyers, obviously. We didn't know this existed until yesterday. Florio was pretty confident in those lawyers, too. Oh, my God. Do they have a chance to lose this? Is there any chance that the NFL

loses this? A $21 billion class action lawsuit against the NFL. Is there any way where they can negotiate and they settle for less or does it have to be all or nothing? They're going to settle somewhere and they're not paying $21 billion. I mean, Rog feels like he can say nothing. I feel like Rog feels like he

can say, good, I'm not paying anything. We're not even negotiating. Well, I think that's why we got to the point of him testifying. I think he has got to the point where he's like, yeah, I'll fucking testify. Instead of doing this entire thing, because once again, we do not know all the ins and outs from Mocky Duck duck pub which we

appreciate yep we appreciate mucky duck pub in san francisco that started this entire thing nine years ago i think is what we were told for the sunday ticket rights from their bar and then getting pissed off about the prices and everything because they are nfl fans and they want to be able to support their teams and that was kind of what sunday ticket was being marketed as and i appreciate what they're going for but as it kind of gets more and more explained, it's like there's a reason why Roger Goodell was completely okay with just going on a stand instead of negotiating out of this. Because anytime we've seen the NFL get pushed a little bit like this,

where it's almost got public, that thing has been settled. This shit, we need to go ahead and move on. For him and Jerry Jones, both to be like, yeah, we'll go. We'll go get sworn under oath just for anything. I'll be cross-examined up here. Like, yeah, he feels very good about it. That's what I'm thinking, yeah. Just as we continue to dissect this from a human perspective.

Well, and even the angle where it's like, hey, well, they're making us pay for different services on different days to watch specific games. It's like all those games black friday christmas even the one playoff game that's been exclusively on peacock or prime it's like hey those games absolutely like you can make the argument that they're just normal should be primetime games but they're also like very specific dates almost like a thanksgiving day game where it's hey we're putting these games on this date for a specific reason like yes

you have to pay 15 to watch it on netflix but also it's never been done before and the reason that we're putting them on on netflix is because of the like grandness of the entire two or 570 270 million subscribers whatever it is for netflix worldwide 270 i think prime is definitely more yeah well that's because every human is just shopping through their thing, getting shit delivered the next day. How'd they do it? I don't know. None of us were known. Same day, same day, 3 a.m.

Just like 20 minutes later sometimes here in Indianapolis because we have so many warehouses and all this shit around us. Oh, yeah. Just shows up like, hey, I need a tank top for today. Okay, take a shower. We'll go. Yeah, it'll be there. It'll be there.

We have three different options, actually. You want an iron, too? It makes no sense. But the pay-per per view model is actually one that the nfl could roll out through this entire lawsuit where you pay like 50 bucks a game or like 30 bucks a game or like whatever the 25 bucks 15 whatever it ends up being for people out of you know the area or the the region in which the game is being played, then you start thinking to yourself, do they make everything a pay-per-view event?

And then what do those numbers become? People want that. People don't want that, do they? Well, they want a cheaper way to be able to see out-of-market games. So if Roger Goodell was to go and say, hey, we're getting sued for $21 billion because of this, your message is heard loud and clear, let's figure out, $15 you can watch each game out of market or whatever. And they start doing a pay-per-view model. That would be, they somehow figure out a way to make money off of games

that they're not making money off of. All of a sudden, you would think some of these games would get primetime cash whenever they were just going to be a 1 o'clock in the middle of the afternoon CBS-type game. It's like, is that what the future looks like? Because they're already kind of doing that with Netflix and Amazon. Because what is it? I forget what the going rate is.

It's like a billion? A billion bucks for the Black Friday game or something like that from Amazon. So they've already put a price on what a game. Is that one year? Is that the game for one year? Per. Yeah, I think. One billion per year for one game?

I don't know. That can't be right. If they're making a billion for one game. I mean, come on now. I mean, if they do, good for them. Was it $250 million? $300 million? It was hundreds of millions of dollars. If it was $1 billion,

I would say, yeah. And Amazon would be the company where it's like, yeah, fuck it. Here, take a billion bucks a year. It doesn't matter. That's where the NFL is. That's why Rod just walking in there. Okay. Worst thing that happens, we lose $21 billion. That's where the NFL is. That's why Rod just walked in there. Worst thing that happens, we lose $21 billion. That's 21 games.

$100 million back in 2021. Amazon paid $11 billion to broadcast Thursday Night Football. For the Black Friday game, Amazon paid $100 million for the rights. Okay, so it's $100 million a year. $1 billion total. Okay, well, congratulations. One game.

$100 million. And it's doing well. How many ads they're floating on Black Friday for deals for that? They're making back well over 100 million dollars on that day. Basically getting that game for free. Amazon? Yeah. Good business investment.

That's why if you would have said a billion, I'd be like, yeah. Yeah, it would have made sense. Yeah, sure it would have. They promote that Cyber Monday too, always, right? In that prime? It makes made sense. Yeah, sure it would have. Because they promote that Cyber Monday, too, always, right? Yeah. In that prime, they promote all the – Well, they started earlier. It makes complete sense. Didn't they start it earlier, too, this year?

Yeah, it's like all weekend, I think. Yeah, where they're like – Week of it. Yeah. It's crazy. There's so much money out there for some of these companies, and the NFL is one of them. Yeah, especially for sports.

How about this Trevor Lawrence deal really throwing quite a – What do you mean? Just like $275 million million bucks maybe we don't know what's real what isn't real that was the first number that was thrown out so we'll just go off of that one okay because we don't know if that's the actual contract or not but that's what was reported by journalists and journalists obviously get everything right never seen one get anything wrong so that now becomes the standard for, you know, everybody that's looking for a contract because you can't really hold over the head the amount of success that the person's had

because although we did see Trevor Lawrence come into his best form, he'd get hurt, he'd run for his life, not play as good, but we have seen a very successful Trevor Lawrence with the addition of Doug Peterson and other pieces. You know, you lose Calvin Ridley, but they still have played much better. But for him to have one playoff win and to get $275 million, now like anybody has a case. And when it comes to negotiating at the quarterback position, if you've had any success at all, and it's like Tua Tongvaloa, obviously,

had one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL and in the history of the NFL there for a little bit. He's up. What's he going to make, you know, with this conversation that's taking place, especially with McDaniel's offense that's almost impossible to learn, allegedly, from a quarterback position? Dak Prescott, what's he going to make if he hits the open market or an extension with the Dallas Cowboys?

That's going to be massive. How about Jordan Love? Jordan Love is the only guy that's really won one in the playoffs, but he hasn't played nearly as much as everybody else that has played, and it's like he should ask for. Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy is going to get – obviously we knew that. Brock Purdy is going to get –

He's going to get the most. These quarterback deals, you know, this is just like – Two is going to ask for more. Don't you think two is going to ask for more than Trevor Long? Yes. Jordan Love. Jordan Love agent is David Mulegata. He is going to ask for more. Don't you think two is going to ask for more than Trevor Long? Yes. Jordan Love. Jordan Love's agent is David Mulageta. He is going to get more.

There's no two ways about it. He was second in the NFL in touchdown passes last year, got a playoff win. He's doing it with a bunch of dudes who had never played receiver before. He might make $70 million a year. Legit. Yeah. And Packers fans. And I hope he gets a hundred.

Exactly. Packers fans have to kind of have to kind of hope for that. You mentioned Dak. I think if Dak gets the Trevor Lawrence deal, people are just as mad because I think they view him as someone who's never won shit either. Yeah, but if Dak gets that deal, I think Dak and the Cowboys can say this is what the going rate is.

Oh, for sure. He actually took a pay cut is what they'll say. Because of the success that is. He actually took a pay cut is what they'll say because of the success that he's had versus Trevor Lawrence and all that. That's what he should say. Trevor will probably say the same thing. Hey, if I don't take this deal, aren't I fucking Jordan Love and Tua? That's the NFLPA's angle. That's their whole thing.

It's not as if Trevor Lawrence was going to tell him, no, no, no. You hold on to that money. I don't want $275. You know who did for a long time? Who's that? Tom Brady. Fucking right. For a long time. Fucking right. He did. Helped the dynasty a lot. He just took, he just, and everybody

said, well, his wife at the time, she makes $100 million a year, too. So, just easy. Who cares? Yeah. He doesn't need the money. He doesn't need to make money. He doesn't need the money. Come on. Yeah, verbatim. He doesn't need the money. Come on. Yeah, now Travis Kelsey obviously just signed two years, and his significant other right now is a billionaire.

Those salary caps, then, are stunning, by the way, in the middle of that Patriots era. I would have just assumed as a casual then that the money would be much higher than it was. Yeah, and you go back to the 90s. Oh, my God. It's nuts. Those dudes got to be so pissed.

Yeah. So fucking mad. They got to be so mad. And some of them are outwardly mad, but all of them are inwardly mad for sure. Like, oh, yeah, lucky that we laid the groundwork for this league that you guys get to play in. And I made $7 million over 10 years. I was a millionaire. I was fucking pumped.

I'm better than all of you. You're making $7 million a day for the next 20 years somehow. They've got to be so pissed. Thanks to them for doing it. I just listened to the GM shuffle and Phil Sims was on there. He was like, They got to be so pissed. But thanks to them for doing it. Get our league. I just listened to the GM shuffle, and Phil Sims was on there,

and he was like, you know, I never used to care. And then he was like, now I got to admit, I'm pretty fucking jealous of what these guys are making. He's like, after Super Bowl MVP, you know, he's like, I was okay, but, geez, these guys are making $55, $60 million a year. How about all these old guys are like, I got one more year. Come on, I got one more, Amy. I got one more.

That's why retiring as a quarterback, that's kind of in shape. That's going to be a really tough thing to do. We always chat about it. I don't know if we always chat about it, but it does come up often, seemingly now, at this stage of his career. But it's like Aaron Rodgers, you know, 20 years into this thing. He was at 100% of the voluntary workout. 100% of the voluntary workout,

seemingly all the way bought in. It's like people have been talking about him maybe retiring. I think he has contemplated retirement. He even said that whenever he went into his darkness retreat last year and everything. It's like, how hard is it going to be to retire whenever they're offering 60 million bucks a year and whenever he becomes just like uh uh a mercenary almost yeah you know it's like hey two-year deal one-year deal two-year deal if he wants to get to

that point because he's going to remain healthy he has said on the record i'll always be able to spin it let's not you know i mean let's not make this uh out to be anything other than that. It's going to get really difficult to retire at the quarterback position if you have had success and still have any ability at all. And I think that's just how the NFL is going to be. And it's great for those guys, legitimately great for those guys. But like this Trevor Lawrence deal and the Kirk Cousins deal, and like these deals we're about to see all help build that up for Aaron and many others we're going to see over the next 10, 15 years, AJ.

Yeah, but is there going to be a team that tries to not do this and tries to, hey, yeah, we have a guy, say he's like a Trevor Lawrence type, and they're not going to pay him. They're going to let him get to free agency, or they're going to say, hey, we're not going to get on this train and pay these guys so much money and continue what we have going on. It's hard to do it because if you lose your quarterback, you're screwed. Cleveland did it with Baker, right?

And then Tampa did it with Jameis. That's kind of what just happened with Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. Yeah. You know, they're like, hey, we're going to have to pay. Kirk got a monster deal from Atlanta. He did, but they were like, hey, we're going to have to, you know, KOC, like, wanted him to stay, but he was going to eat up so much of the cap, and they had to re-sign Justin Jefferson.

So they're like, Yeah, we can. It rarely, rarely happens. Jameis was coming off, what, like a 5,000-yard season, but threw 30 picks, 30 touchdowns. Most touchdowns, most picks, same year. Nobody's ever done it before. The guy was playing for his team and the other team at the same time.

He needed LASIK. Couldn't see anything somehow. Last pass was a pick six. Completed balls to so many different players, both on his team and the other team. Couldn't see anything somehow. Last pass was a pick six. Completed balls to so many different players, both on his team and the other team. Couldn't see any of it. That is phenomenal. The more we think about it, the more wild it is. Catchable ball.

Think about how good Jameis was without being able to see a fucking thing. Crazy. I'd be as confident as he was, too. Everybody's the same color. Every jersey is the exact same. Think about it. James, what a weapon. But Baker still back up.

I think he's with Cleveland, right? But Baker wins a playoff game there and then gets shipped out of town. Yeah, what happened? What was that? We know. I guess people were getting mad because he did so many national commercials and all that, too, and he wasn't. You're not winning Super Bowls and doing that.

Obviously, you're wasting your time. Stefanski didn't like him, okay? That's the bottom line. That's just the reality of the situation. I wonder why. He wheeled him out with a bad shoulder and made him throw 60 times a game against the Steelers, and then they had a healthy Nick Chubb, and they were like,

you know, we could use this guy to help Baker, or we could give him one carry every other drive and make Baker throw it 80 times, and then when we ship him out of town, no one will give a fuck. And don't look now, but you go to Denver last year, you think to yourself, Sean Payton using all his best plays? I was the fancy one coach of the year twice. to yourself. Sean Payton using all his best plays. How is Stefanski one coach of the year twice?

He's smart. Is he? Yeah, Joe Flacco. He got a good defense, I'll tell you that much. No, lose Chubb. Three of their starting 5-0 linemen. Three quarterbacks. Joe Flacco comes in midseason and they still make a playoff. Yeah, I think so.

He brought hope to Cleveland, Gump. He brought hope. That's all he needed for an extension. So did Baker, and he shipped them out. It's the same thing. No, hope is happening now because they win a playoff game. Yeah, I'm sure. A lot of money involved there.

Stefanski and Andrew Barry digging extensions. They better win this year. Whoa, geez. They're not the Dolphins. Dolphins need to win. They better. Dolphins need to win a Super Bowl this year. Whoa, geez. They're not the Dolphins. Dolphins need to win. They better. Dolphins need to win a Super Bowl this year. We're all going to be disappointing there.

But to go back to the Sean Payton point with Russell Wilson, isn't it crazy? Like if you've got the play caller and quarterback are just not meant for each other, it's like, nope, this is never going to work. So, yeah, I'm going to give you the best plays. Bo Nix throw 35 touchdowns this year. Sean's talking a little bit about being disrespected publicly because they're out $80 million in salary cap over the next two years to move on from Russell Wilson,

which is still one of the wildest things that's ever happened in the NFL. We're still in the – they are paying him a top 10 quarterback salary to play for another team this year. The Denver Broncos are doing that to Russell Wilson currently in 2024 for him to make a million bucks to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Hell yeah. That's a wild amount of like, yeah, we don't want him in our building. Same conference.

Yeah, in the AFC. But that is why I think a lot of people don't have faith in the Broncos. But I think we all had faith in Sean Payton's a good coach, right? So we assume that he'll be able to figure it out. Great offensive genius. Offensive genius, I think. Yeah, it's just the way things went last year. Like, he is an offensive genius, absolutely.

And, like, it got brought up a few times about how him and Big Mike McCarthy are basically the same guy, but the perceptions are completely different. But if it doesn't work with Bo N nicks then what does the broncos front office just say like oh we put all of our chips into this sean payton basket and now we're just back to where we were before hackett yeah but i think he was i think he sold a potential full rebuild you know in the in the lead up to it like hey if me and russell wilson don't get along and in the back of his mind he's like we we won't. I already know. I've watched film.

We will not get along. If any coach needs to be on the same page as his quarterback, I think it's Sean Payton. I mean, what he and Drew did for so long, those guys were – like they're both the same dude. It felt like they saw the game the same. So I'm sure Sean Payton probably knew from the first dinner he had with Russ when they posted some pictures that this may not work out.

It wasn't him, remember? Yeah. Joe Montana. Yeah. You're right there. Joe Montana was there. You're right. Sean, we all saw you and Russell Wilson have dinner last night down here at the Super Bowl. What was it like?

Is that the first time you guys have had dinner? He goes, yeah, it was cool. Joe Montana was there. I had to talk to Joe Montana. That was really cool. That was Russ. Joe Montana was there. I don't remember.

What do you mean, Russ? Joe Montana here. You I don't remember. What do you mean Russ? Joe Montana here. You remember what he did? You know Joe. He starts listing off all his accomplishments. That guy was sitting at the table. How am I supposed to talk to Russ? Talking about quarterbacks, Dak Prescott is down at TEU.

Tight End University is currently taking place in Nashville for another consecutive year. Congrats to the Tight Ends piecing this wonderful event together. Obviously, a few years back, Greg Olson, Kittle, I think Kelsey involved as well, wanted to gather the tight ends around the NFL for a weekend of camaraderie, boozing, and some football learning. And what it has become is a celebration of football as a whole. I believe Josh Allen was there last year.

I believe there's other quarterbacks that come through this year. Dak Prescott is there. He's obviously going into last year of his contract vibes. Seemingly very high at this event. Dallas Clark also down there. They bring some OGs down there. I think there's gift bags for everybody that's coming through. Titan University is becoming a massive brand.

They have a lot of sponsors and a lot of weapons around the nfl gathering in nashville i'm pumped for these dudes they've seemingly put this thing on their back to strengthen the tight end community and uh obviously another year of success and i can't wait to see all the shit that comes out here over the next few days aj yeah it seems to be listen to greg olson talk about it it's a well-oiled machine now and what they're doing i mean is it just a matter of time before every tight end on an NFL roster is at this thing? I think we're already at that. I think the first year they didn't think they could house as many people.

There's Laporta, I do believe. They couldn't house as many. Huge. Laporta is massive. Yeah, he's a house. So good. Iowa, pretty good at tight ends. Tight end you.

But your offense can't get first downs. I know. It's crazy, right? So what else? We'll see this year. Tim Lester's a fucking genius. So they're going to be just fine. Hey, go Hawks.

Go Hawks, baby. Go Hawks. Go Hawks. Hey, go Hawks. Go Hawks, baby. How about Nebraska and Wisconsin coming? I'm not worried about Nebraska. I know Matt Ruhle's a great coach, but I'm not worried about Nebraska. I know Matt Rule's a great coach, but I'm not worried about Nebraska.

What are you talking about? Well, you know, I mean, I was pretty much got the exact same team back next year. We don't have a fat sack of wine playing quarterback this time around. And they beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. That guy gave you a lot of good days. Deacon Jones is a dog. That's not his name. All right.

Deacon Jones. He was. Deacon Jones was. Deacon Jones was a great name. Deacon Jones was a dog. He was. He was. He used to smack, I believe.

They're going to be just fine. I mean, Tone did his preview. You know, hey, plus 700 and make the playoff. Already bet on it. How about that Tone Longshots? Yeah. It was great. Great segment.

It was a great segment. All of them very valid. It's like, holy shit, all these teams could definitely make it. They're bringing back that many guys. Yeah, he's like 20 of 22 starters have returning. It's like, that's a pretty valuable piece of information. Ollie Gordon guy from Oklahoma State. And four of their five offensive linemen. Yeah, I had no idea.

Their schedule was set up beautifully for him as well. When does the book drop? Has to be in the next few weeks. Like an actual physical book? Like, you know, or what? I don't know if we're going to be able to get it to a publisher. Maybe a newsletter. Maybe like a digital newsletter. We'll figure out how to get it out.

He does so much work. He loves college ball tone. I love it. I love watching excited tone talk about it. Yeah, and he does. He really dives into the analytics of it all, too. He'll send me notes, obviously, for each game that we're going to chat about on game day. He's like my information guy, legitimately.

In some of the stats he'll send over, I'm like, Tony, where the fuck did you find this particular stat? And he's like, well, I was reading through somebody, and then I got to a local blogger, and he mentioned it like a week ago. So we're just going to assume that the stats didn't change as much but very vital piece of information when they're attacking this particular guy they are not good and it's like digs loves it like he is deep in the weeds of it all so this book just seemed like a naturally like hey you should put all this information you have somewhere you know like other people would probably like to learn about this. It's coming together really

really nice. That long shot thing, it was just a tiny little piece of it. He's getting quotes on everybody. Learn today too, we're only 10 weeks away from college football. Where'd you learn that? We're right around the corner. Let's go! That was the first thought last night after that basketball

game ended. It was like, oh fuck we need football so fucking bad. How many days till the NFL? I believe we are 80 days, 80 or 79 days away. Hold the phone. Yeah, we were not that far. I remember 100. 100 days felt like nothing.

It was just a wake-up call. 100 felt like a full day of fulfillment because the video you guys released, obviously. That really lifted our spirits. But now that we're down to 80 or 79? we are very close less than three months i mean plus when you think about i think teams the first teams report july 19th july 17th so the list was 15th yeah very early i remember being late july early august as check-in time and now everything's seemingly getting earlier and earlier and it's only going to get earlier and earlier if they add another game to the schedule and another bye week, which is inevitable.

And I wonder if Roger Goodell talked about that on the stand. We'll never know because nobody was covering it yesterday because it was a four-hour masterclass of Roger Goodell. But they have released all the official report dates for NFL training camps. So that is the time of year that we're in right now, AJ. Releasing the official dates of when training camp starts more than a month from now. That is the world that we're in right now aj releasing the official dates of when training camp starts more than a month from now that is the world that we're in right now that's why uh go oilers go tonight yeah go oilers go we need mcdavid to do the thing but yeah official nfl release all the teams in the dates in which they'll be reporting hall of fame game reports earlier

obviously than everybody else because their game is three days before everybody else. New coaches have an earlier check-in time because they get a couple extra days with the entire thing. It's like, now's the time for these players to enjoy the free time, be smart, get prepared, and be ready

to dominate. Hell yeah. Show up in shape. Don't try to get in shape in training camp. They're going to find out. Are they still doing conditioning tests? Do those even exist anymore? Most teams are. Do they? Are you sure? No, I'm not. That's a good question.

Yeah, me neither. I haven't heard anybody fail a conditioning test in years, I don't think. It's kind of an old school thing. You don't need to go stride out 15 half gassers and then go practice the next day. If you're not in shape, it's going to show within the first day or two. Yeah, day one.

Oh, yeah. Most exhausting thing is happening as soon as you get there. Welcome to training camp. I assume that that is something that has been negotiated out of it. Do we think people are still running games? I would say at least half teams probably still. Like Steelers probably are, right? Don't the Steelers, they're big on that.

Steelers still travel to a college too, a university. Obviously, that is something that is slowly dying as well. A lot of people are just doing it at their home bases because it's become so big. All these buildings and facilities have become so big. So there's only a few teams left, I don't know how many there are, that still travel and get away and stay in dorms and do the old school. But this entire thing is wild.

And Green Bay, did you guys have to pass the condition test before you could practice? Yeah, we did. Okay, yeah. Towards the end of it, though, strength coach was great. It became like a position-specific run that you would do instead of like a test. Like, hey, everyone do the same thing. It actually was like – it was good to see who was in shape for what you actually do.

We weren't having linemen running 150 yards. We had to make – a guy wasn't able to practice until he passed it. Oh, yeah. I know his name. Yeah, I'm not going to say it. But he ended up being a dog for us. But, like, you often wonder to yourself, okay, he's nowhere near passing it on day one.

Like, nowhere near this guy. I don't even know if he knew he was going to have to run to play football this particular season. This guy knew he was coming to an NFL training camp. That was the real question. And then you think to yourself, well, he's not allowed to practice until he passes. He was a young guy.

It was like, well, this guy's not practicing for a while. He's not going to pass that tomorrow. Are they going to run this thing three straight days? His legs are going to... He's only going to get worse. He's going to get in worse shape. There was no end in sight for this guy. He's like, is he ever going to practice? Can you go find for that? Wait.

We had some guys in Cincinnati that weren't able to practice because they didn't pass. I think we ran 40s able to practice after because they didn't pass. I think we ran 40s there, actually, and they didn't pass that. So they're riding the bike. They're doing workouts in between meeting time. The strength coaches are taking through a little stuff, and they have to get the weight down.

Just an embarrassment. On the bike, the fucking arm shit. But it's some guys who it's almost like test taking. Some guys can actually be in football shape, but when it comes to taking a conditioning test, for some reason or another, they just cannot. Ben Jarvis Greenell is my guy. The law firm.

Unlucky football player. Run his ass off, work his ass off, but conditioning tests were just not his thing. Him and the whistle just can't. This ain't how I like it. Sometimes you're striders. I know I'm not a strider. We ran 20 half gassers in college.

We had dudes that would dump their pants during it and keep running because if you fail, you've got to come back the next morning and do it again. I'm not great with striders. General Bob, he could be first place in the whole team on 20 straight gassers gliding like a gazelle up there, and I'm just grinding my way with my short little legs. West Virginia, we did the Hill and 110s. The Hill and 110s. And that was – So Hill and 110s?

Yeah, there are different times, though. Hill is end of summer. Then 110s was training camp. Even if you stay there, like, the whole summer and work out with the team? Yeah. Is that something – You work out the whole summer to beat the Hill. Okay, so you don't get, like, hey, this guy's been here the whole summer.

We know he's in shape. He doesn't have to take – No, the Hill is the – is the that's that's the reason why we're that's not yeah in the hill has gotten a little law school hill is the hill right outside the stadium it used to be one of the most hilarious look at the i mean it just went straight up basically and it was a long way and it seemingly never ended but i was very lucky because my freshman year i come in fresh out of soccer. So I'd been running a lot in Pittsburgh. I've been running up hills literally my whole life.

Like I lived bottom of every hill and plumb pretty much. So to get anywhere, I had to go uphill. So I was just toasting up that thing. I felt great. And then as I got older, you see. Yeah. Those knees. Right.

You really start dying. But those striders were a problem. Those things were never fun. There's some guys, the track guys, boy, they really shine in some of those conditioning tests. Just the way they run, the confidence, obviously, how happy they are. Then you see other guys, literally, he said dumping their pants, but like puking and running at the same time. That's why I'm assuming it has to be different nowadays. There's no way guys are pooping and puking day one of anything in the NFL in 2024.

They have to have changed that. I don't know. I hope we didn't get that soft. There's some teams we used to hear about further conditioning tests, and it sounded like, what? I could have got drafted to a team that I would have had to do that. That would have been terrible as an adult to have to do that in training camp. There were some teams that used to really like,

hey, you better be in shape now. And I guess it's a good motivator for everybody in the offseason. But those that didn't train, and you're fucked pretty much. Yeah, I couldn't imagine what Chip Kelly's was when he was with the Eagles or the Niners. That must have been the biggest nightmare of all time. What was it? Bill used to send everybody to a hill there?

Oh, no. What are we doing? Is there a hill in the back of the training facility? It is a hill. I don't feel like there was a condition. I forget what the condition test was. No, but the hill all year, right? When I was there, it would just be

sprint. We conditioned after damn near every practice. He would just stand on one table. He was starting in the end zone. He would stand on the 40. Then he would back up maybe 10 yards, blow the whistle. It was some points where the strength coach had to be like, Bill, I think we're good. But that was his thing.

Like, hey, we're not going to be tired. We're going to be the most conditioned team. So when you get in the fourth quarter, when you get late in the season, it'll end up paying off. Obviously, it sucks when you're doing it, but when you actually get into those positions and you see the other team is gassed, that is a bitch. I saw him whenever he was running the team on Do Your Job,

and the way he phrased it was like, store it for later, you're storing it for later, or something like that. I forget how he phrased it. I'm like, that's a smart way. Somebody should have told me that back when I was dying in the middle of the area. You know, because that's like a good way to phrase it.

That's a good way to like set. Not in the moment. In the moment, it doesn't matter. But it does after. As soon as you get done, it matters. As soon as you finish up, like, yep, you got it. That's fine. I am storing it.

Yep. I locked that thing into deep store. It felt like a very deep store on this particular day. So, obviously, the Celtics won the title last night. The Panthers could win the Stanley Cup tonight. And Uncle Howdy. Yeah. Man. Yeah. Man.

Wow. What a return. And the Wyatt five, the Wyatt five, six. Yeah, wellness checks on guys. Five, six. That was wild, dude. That was a wild thing just to happen. Obviously, I had no clue what was taking place.

So I'm doing the yeet dance, okay, because we're yeeting and Corpus Christi. I've already been in a sweat for an hour and 40 minutes, I'd say at that point. Corpus Christi, it was thick. It was hot as shit down there. I mean, it was. Last night was a real battle of attrition. I mean, we're chugging through water. Cole in a full suit, sweating

his ass off. So I'm yeeting, sweating, and I'm like, wow, we're really running this a long time in my lungs and in my body. And all of aeting, sweating, and I'm like, wow, we're really running this a long time in my lungs and in my body. And all of a sudden they do a power outage and in the video, because I watched it back, you see me still yeeting and then stopping midway

and just going, what the hell is this? Because this thing has been teased for a long time. And then there's just bodies laid out everywhere. Did you hear the gunshot when they shot Chad Gable in the head? Yeah, is Chad Gable okay? I mean, I hope he's not because he's a terrible guy. Wow.

Uh-oh. I mean, they shot him in the head. That's terrifying. I mean, it's going to scare every kid. Dude, I'm telling you, I was sitting there. I had no idea. Kids got to learn. It was wild.

Do we have confirmation on Triple H? Where the hell did everybody go? As the camera's rolling and I'm watching this whole thing, I'm like, where the hell is everybody at? Is everybody okay? Why is everybody's brought out? Who put all the smoke? Where's the smoke? And then how many bodies are down there?

And then you start seeing Uncle Howdy's pee. These freaks can't be allowed to get away with this. I think they're going to be able to do whatever they want. Are you stopping? Go ahead, Nick. Somebody better call Drew McIntyre and tell him to come back.

That's what I'm saying. They're going to need Drew back for these guys. No one in the roster wants to smoke from these guys. No, you don't want to be a part of the smoke. Your body's laid out in the smoke everywhere. I mean, look at this. And then all of a sudden, Chad Gable right after we get through the bodies on the floor. Look at the smoke to stay so low.

Oh, no, he's dead. They shot him in the head. Looks like it. A singlet on. Yeah, he had a match earlier. That's how he would have wanted to die anyways. Alpha Academy left him anyways. Otis got up and got out of there.

He's still moving. I think he's still moving. No, he's not. No, it's twitching. Someone kicked him. And there's Uncle Howdy. Holy shit. Oh, gosh. How do you sleep after this? I don't. Legitimately, I was walking out of there. I'm like, what the hell? And I don't know. Is this just what they're going to do every week to

people? Like, what? How do me and Cole stay out of the crosshairs of this entirely oh no they're gonna get you they're gonna shoot you dead i hope no whoa whoa i hope not yeah you need to get out of it well you know you know it was awesome it was a wild scene obviously everybody on the internet and went crazy and i'm kind of scared for next week aren't you guys in town yeah it's an indian oh no zeke watch out, Z. I'm going to hide.

Bringing my switchblade. Everybody needs to be smart. Actually, don't do that. Don't get in. Yeah. Bring a sword. There's metal detectors everywhere. It was wild.

Rest in peace to Bray Wyatt, obviously. What an absolute legend. This part was awesome. I feel like what his brother's about to do is about to be pretty insane. All right, Uncle Howdy. We live in your world. We get it. And Drew McIntyre, get back in our world.

Drew McIntyre quit last night. He just walked out. He said, screw this company. Screw this company. I quit. He got screwed over in Glasgow. Just saw a new deal. You can't blame him for what happened in Scotland, to be fair.

Does the deal matter if you feel like you've been incredibly disrespected in your hometown? No. In good faith. Good point. Great point. I was pissed about it because I was on his side. He did get screwed. Why did that ref give CM Punk a shirt, ref shirt?

I think she thought maybe he was just going to go take a photo with it because he's such a big fan of refs. We should be holding on to those, I feel like. That should be tighter wraps. You heard what Triple H said. CM Punk says he's been back. Everybody loves him in the back. Great attitude, great mentality, great vibes, great everything.

So I think Jessica Carr, incredible official for the WWE, was just like, oh, yes, Mr. Punk just wants to go take a photo with this because he's such a big fan of refs. She had no idea he was about to run out in Glasgow, Scotland. And you know what this means? Oh, Scotland. And you know what this means? Oh, yeah. He actually said, fuck you. That's their middle finger.

Is it really? Oh, yeah. And that just happened to Drew in middle Glasgow, Scotland. That's not how it's supposed to end. No, not at all. Yeah, Damian Priest. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen. Put one on? Mm-hmm.

Forever. Like pie. Bingo. Nailed it. Yeah. And now he's gone. I hope not. They got to get him.

They'll get him. They'll find him. They'll bring him back. He needs to go on his own journey and kind of figure out like, hey. He already did that. He needs to go on another one. He needs to go on another one. Look himself in the mirror.

Maybe he goes back to what he needs to go back to, and that's the psychopath. He can't be the warrior anymore. It's time for him to unleash who he really is. The psychopath. I mean, I said it on the show when he was on here a couple weeks ago. We can just end this whole thing if he just fucking cuts CM Punk's head off. That would end it. Angela or whatever the fuck it's called.

Slice his head off. Set the tone for everybody else, too. Hey, don't mess with this guy. Angela, yeah. Angela! You might find yourself on a roll. No, yeah, I don't want to get my head cut off, but I feel like if he would just listen to me.

You know, do it in your home country. They're not going to give a fuck. Especially that night. They'll use CM Punk's head as a soccer ball. Euros are going on right now. Yeah, they lost to Germany, obviously, pretty bad. Shit kick. How about that happens on Friday, and everything that Grella told a fella

was right. We definitely have him back on again, telling us everything we need to know about all these Euros. He literally, every name that he said, I guess, scored for the German team and then Spain, and then, like, everything he basically said was right. So, Telefellagrela was hella successful, and we will certainly revisit

that. But yeah, once the Scots lost 5-1 on Friday night, and then you got Clash at the Castle on Saturday night, and then Drew McIntyre loses like that. Tough couple days in Scotland. Not great. But from what we know, they powered through it.

They're a tough bunch. They always do. But Drew McIntyre quit last night. I was heartbroken. Me too. On the positive side, though, Seth Freaker always is back. How cool was that? Needed that.

That was quite a surprise. Needed that. Yeah. Especially after the Derby. What's that? The Kentucky Derby. Oh, yeah, where they were representing down there. New York Times bestseller, his wife, Becky Lynch, also down there.

Seth freaking Rollins crushing last night. He's got a title opportunity in two weeks. Shout out to El Campeon. Charlotte coming back. What's that? Charlotte Flair coming back soon. I don't know. That's a good question.

She was doing box jumps on the internet, so that's a great sign. She had an ACL repair? I believe full knee. I'm not 100% sure if it was just ACL. I think it was full knee and that type of thing. I mean, that's a huge bump when she comes back. She's a giant. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Charlotte Flair immediately in the conversation of being a champion whenever she comes back. That's what the Flair family obviously does. The Damien Presel Campion foot in the ropes fall. Everybody's what the Flair family obviously does. Damien Presel-Campion, foot in the ropes, fall. Everybody's talking about his knee ankle. He almost hits his head off the side of the – and everybody's like, his knee obviously was injured.

Obviously, his leg was injured. We understand that those ropes don't budge sometimes. And sometimes they budge too much. And then all of a sudden you're budged pretty bad. Brought a breaker. And that happened. Bingo. Whenever he slides, yeah, there's all of a sudden you're budged pretty bad. Brought a breaker. And that happened. Bingo. Whenever he slides, yeah, there's a chance that those ropes become a weapon in themselves.

But his head, he's bending down like this. He almost. Yeah, I mean. I mean, his head almost hits the side of the. Yeah, we can fix an ankle. We can't rebuild your head and brain. That's what. So, as I was watching last night, I saw it again.

I'm like, yeah, you're right. right i saw that they're doing the oh yeah transplants wait they're doing head transplants now they have any no any successful listen i've been looking into this for years they've always been talking about it feels like they're closer than they've ever been and being able to unplug it and plug back in so do i have to do you have to kill somebody then to use their body put your head on it no it's a donor obviously yeah 3d print a body i didn't see that i mean that seems like pretty pretty the whole body how about 3d printing golf clubs being uh all the rage yeah because bryson dechambeau in right now how about how smart he was with this you say you see how you know woods normally kind of curve like this in the front

because you're swinging it harder. So, you know, he has to be able to give a little bit. It's like genius. How is he the first? And now he's going to make clubs that are going to make people better golfers. Well, now he's going to make nighttime golf clubs if he wants to. He was bombing balls while boozed up on wine last night. I believe he has enjoyed the hell out of this U.S. Open championship. Glow in a

dark ball, and it is gone! What's out there? Where is that? He's in New York, I guess. So maybe water? Maybe they're out there on water somewhere? Yeah, maybe. I think they were at Trump's golf course. What if it was Statue of Liberty? Where's that? New Jersey? I think so.

Westchester. What if he dons a Statue of Liberty multiple times? Yeah, what if? Should have been staying inchester. What if he dies at Westchester? Statue of Liberty multiple times. Yeah, what if? Shouldn't have been staying in there. What if that's his happy-go-more moment? He's really been enjoying the hell out of it. How could you not? He is officially not on the Team USA Olympic team that has been announced today.

Xander Shoffley, Morikawa, Wyndham Clark, and Scotty Scheffler, who is obviously our hero, our Captain America. The man who goes from jail cells to golf courses and doesn't skip a beat. He is the epitome of American success. So hopefully he goes on to win the gold. But Xander Schauffele has proven in the past that when the gold's on the line, he plays his best ball. Wyndham Clark, a lot of people saying, well, is that the guy that we would have rather had Bryson Ditchum go for? Wyndham Clark gets hot.

He starts playing great golf. He's representing the United States. We're appreciative of that. And also, Mark Howell, let's go, boys. Come on now, boys. Bring it on, boys. Can we win a team medal, or is it just all individual? From what we read, I believe it's all just an individual tournament pretty much.

They should take your scores, though. Whatever your team is, if every team has four, take it and let's see who wins the gold by all of your scores. They should do that. Absolutely. Why don't they do that, D-Butch? No clue. I mean, USA... Because we'd win gold every year. Yeah, because teams in golf just don't work. Ask Liv. What are you saying, Team USA?

You gotta figure it out. I always gotta figure some shit out. Across the board or just in golf? I'll stick with golf. Oh, you don't want to or just in a golf hole? I'll stick with golf. You don't want to dive deeper than anything else? Yeah, I'll stick with golf. I don't pay attention enough to everything else. Yeah, you're right. We don't have all the answers.

Golf, we have the answers. Yes. Because obviously we watch. Every weekend. I do watch an absurd amount of golf. I think if you were to put the amount of time that I watch golf, it would be the number two. Because obviously NFL is all day,

you know, and then they added a London game, and it's literally all day, the time that my brain is consuming NFL football, and then college ball, got to watch all, and then I think golf is definitely the third, just because all day, literally you're just watching, listening if not

watching, it's in the background, you're hearing the excitement, you're seeing the shots listening if not watching. It's in the background. You're hearing the excitement. You're seeing the shots. It's perfect weekend television, especially this time of year. Did you hear? Rory, take some time off. Yeah, so I wrote to the crowd. He wrote a note section out, didn't he? Classic note section.

Yesterday was a tough day. Yesterday was a tough day, probably the toughest I've had in my nearly 17 years as a professional golfer. Firstly, I'd like to congratulate Bryson. He's a worthy champion, exactly what professional golf needs right now. I think we can all agree on that. As I reflect on my week, I'll rule a few things over the course of the tournament, mostly the missed two putts on 16 and 18 on the final day.

But as I always try to do, I'll look at the positives of the week that far outweigh the negatives. As I said at the start of the tournament, I feel closer to winning my next major championship than I ever have. The one word that I would describe my career as is resilient. I've shown my resilience over and over again

in the last 17 years, and I will again. I'm going to take a few weeks off away from the game to process everything and build myself back up for my defense of the Genesis Scottish Open and the Open at Royal Troon. I'll see you in Scotland. Thank you, Rory. Thank you, Rory.

Feels like it's all good, baby, baby. What? Nice. Ah, Gumpy, on that note. Way to go. Let's get the hell out of here. He wins the British Open. He's good.

He wins the British Open in dominating fashion. All is forgotten. Yep, and then if he wins the gold, all is forgotten. Then if he wins the Masters next year, if he wins blah, blah, blah, it's all forgotten. Why, US Open's at Oakmont next year. Yeah, we'll see. If he wins that, it's all forgotten. Yeah, bingo. Let's just year. Yeah, we'll see. If he wins that, it's all forgotten.

Yeah, bingo. Let's just keep doing that. He's closer than he's ever been. We saw it. Literally, he is the closest. He is closer than he's ever been. Yeah, but he's got to build himself back up now. This guy is so fucked.

I feel terrible for him. I really do. Truly. He's a piece of demon. Can you imagine? I feel awful for him. I really do. Yeah.

Me too. You're hitting nuts. Can you imagine? Next time he's in that situation at a major And he has a lead going into the back nine What kind of demons do you have? He's hitting putts from 20 plus all night Right here

He's going to be right here The gold on the line Yeah Yeah His brain is going to be expecting His brain is going to be telling him Yeah, yeah Hit it as hard as you fucking can I don't trust this read Okay guys It's a good putt, just a bad line

I truly do I'm not making jokes i actually feel terrible for him but the reason why he's a professional golfer and we are not is because he can battle through these things i miss chip shots i've hit shanks before and then we're able to bounce back right in my particular profession yeah of course he'll be able to get through it yeah i don't know how the next time you know even if he has 17 good holes exactly even though even if he's hitting putts from 30 feet because that's exactly what he was fucking doing comes down to 18 he's got a two-stroke lead oh my god comfortable

no problem all you gotta do here is make double or better And then he gets up there and it's just a full on, oh no, gong show. Bonker. Bit of a gong show. Is this ball ever going to go in the hole? Because golf can do that to you. All you need is one lie on the green that you don't know the exact

read and then you put yourself at like a seven to eight foot range and then all of a sudden you put yourself at a two foot and then you do the dick around, boom, and then all of a sudden it's right and then, put yourself at like a 7 to 8 foot range. And then all of a sudden you put yourself at a 2 foot and then you do the dick around, boom, and then all of a sudden it's right. And then, oh no, it happened again. But he had a situation like this at the Masters, right? Hole 10, he drives one, worst shank off a tee box

that they've ever seen. Something like that. He was able to bounce back and recover from that. That was a long time ago. He's good. Roy's good. He's got to win one by like 6. He can't win a close i agree it's got

to be like a six or seven stroke win didn't dustin johnson miss a short one uh dj hit one out of dq'd yeah he got like a two-stroke penalty because he didn't know it was a bunker it was a bunker and he grounded his club and that's he got robbed and he lost because no but didn't somebody was it i remember that moment uh – In a major? Was it Scotty? I saw a tweet this morning. But he still won? Somebody – no. They lost, and it was like a foot and a half, like one of those.

I think I remember. That wasn't the Justin Thomas massive comeback where the guy was going into the last hole. Was it Pereira? Yeah, Mito Pereira. Mito Pereira. And then he joined Liv the next week. I don't remember. I forget. But I've seen

a short putt lose it for somebody before. That's got to be the absolute worst. Just ask. I'm super bummed out. I think we just exposed that that's a fake trophy right there. No, no, no. I hit this. Sounded pretty plastic. No, no, no. It hit this. Do you have any final thoughts on this celebratory Celtics

Tuesday? I mean, really, just a long time coming. Five years. It was the toughest five years of my life, without a doubt. No doubt about it. Since the Patriots last won the Super Bowl and Boston last had a championship trophy. It was truly grueling. And I'm just happy to be back in the

winner's circle, baby. I'm going to carry this thing for quite some time. Way to survive it. Dominant run. Thank you. time. Way to survive it. We did. Dominant run. We made it through. Thank you. Thank you.

Boys deserve it. If this one goes in, you guys maybe win next year. Okay. You didn't try. Yeah, you did. All right. Well, congrats to you guys. Universal Academy.

Back to back. Wow. Back to back. That was Pritchard. Yeah, that was Pritchard. That was Pritchard. Yeah, that was Pritchard. That was Pritchard clean there. Yeah, I need to get one of those jerseys now. All right.

Well, we appreciate you all for allowing us to do this every single day. AJ, great work today, honestly. Great work. Boys in the back, great work today. Good job, boys. D-Botch, way to fill in over there for Tone Diggs. You absolutely crushed it. You look cool today, too.

And Toxic Table, obviously. Phenomenal vibes all day. You too. You as well. Mets big win last night. I don't know if you saw it. Okay, let's get the hell out of here. Be a friend.

Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Never forget it. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Congrats to the Celtics. Hell yeah.

One, two, three. Team. Come on.