The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 116 - This Week Was Incredible.. Let's Talk About It

Episode Date: October 11, 2019

On today’s show, Pat records bits and pieces 38,000 feet in the air on the plane on the way back from Raleigh, North Carolina. The guys each pick some of their favorite moments from the past week including Pat’s story about having to take a bunch of edibles in the Heathrow Airport after playing the Jaguars in London and what that experience was like, his take on Dave Petersen, the moron who sent a disparaging letter to a Penn State football player for not “representing the school the way he should.” Also included are interviews with Green Bay Packers Running Back and newly minted NFC Offensive Player of the Week, Aaron Jones (2:25-12:48), and an incredibly insightful conversation with 4x Pro Bowler, 3x All-Pro, Super Bowl Champion, and former Green Bay Pack, Chicago Bear, and Miami Dolphins Guard, Josh Sitton (24:47-36:18). It was a long week, but a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In a plane making its way back to Indianapolis from Raleigh, North Carolina. NC State defeated Syracuse last night in what was a sloppy-ass football game. But NC State covered. Also, New England covered. Which I grabbed. Thor's hammered and hammered good for them it was a little bit ugly in the first half but what Tom Brady does is always come through in the end not only is Tom Brady the greatest quarterback of all time I think it's about time we argue is he the greatest running quarterback of all time. 1,000 yards rushing, two touchdowns last night, and

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boys, what was your favorite moments from this past week's live radio show? Ty Schmidt was first, mostly because Ty is living a terrible existence and I wanted to make him feel good. He said the interview with Green Bay running back Aaron Jones was his favorite moment of the week. Old Showtime, Aaron Jones put on a show for us and I think you're going to enjoy this especially since the Packers seem to be all the way backer that was whack joining us right now from Green Bay Wisconsin that's where he's calling from it's not where he's from.

He was a fifth-round draft pick from the University of Texas, El Paso, Old UTEP. And this past weekend in Jerry World, exploded onto the scene with four tutters for the Green Bay Packers running back, Aaron Jones. Aaron. How you doing? I'm all right, man. How are you doing after scoring four touchdowns in Jerry World on primetime television I'm doing great thank you for having me the world got a chance to get introduced to you that team in Green Bay everybody has been talking about the defense is incredible Aaron Rodgers is excited about the first time the packers have had a great defense in a long time and against the cowboys without davante

adams nobody knew what the offense was going to do did you know it was going to be a big day for you going into the game and was the game plan revolved around aaron jones dominating in dallas oh no so the game plan wasn't uh just around me. We knew everybody had to step up with Tate being out. Everybody had to strain a little bit more and do their 111, which is when we say 111, do their job. So everybody did their 111, and it opened it up for me and made it easy. I think you did two of the three 11s a couple times. You had an incredible game.

Aaron Rodgers was quoted as saying that he's having a lot of fun right now. When before the season started, the only conversation was Aaron Rodgers and Matt LaFleur aren't going to get along, blah, blah, blah. They're this, they're that. Your team looks incredible right now. What is the atmosphere and what is Aaron referring to whenever he says that the whole team is having a lot of fun right now in the facility? I mean, you could just cut on the film,

and you'll see us having fun out there, the defense celebrating, all celebrating together, the offense all celebrating together. There's a play being made. Everybody's celebrating. In the locker room, the chemistry is different. It's like a family. Everybody talks to everybody, no matter if you're on the practice squad or if you're Aaron Rodgers. He talks to everybody.

I talk to everybody. He talks to everybody. I talk to everybody. Everybody talks to everybody. So it's just when you get that, you get your leader, you see your leader talking to anybody. I mean, it opens it up for the whole team, and it just brings everybody closer. Winning also is a great way to celebrate. You guys have been winning a lot.

I have you picked. Now, granted, I made this decision before watching the Niners for the first time on Monday night, so I still feel this way. A lot of people are picking the Green Bay Packers as the best team in the NFC. Do you guys have those types of expectations inside the locker room, or are you just keeping the noise out, let's just do 111th and focus on our next week? We're always just doing our 111th and focusing on next week,

but we also at the same time do feel that way. And that's something we strive for every year to be the best. And we're not going to stop until we get to that point. We're going to keep working to achieve that. Okay. I was just introduced to you on Sunday. What do people not know about Aaron Jones that they should know? What are you into off the field? Are you a musician? Do you like to write?

Are you a gamer? What is Aaron Jones into outside of football? I play a little bit of video games. I like to sleep, watch movies, and eat. The Aaron Rodgers being your quarterback. What have you got a chance to learn from him about being a professional, being in the NFL, and how much does it help the running game when you have a quarterback that can literally make every throw

and create things without anything having to be made for him? Oh, I mean, he makes it so much easier for you. You're going to see light boxes sometimes out there, but just when he starts to kill them through the air, they're going to put another DB on the field, take her back or out. So that's going to take somebody out of the box for me. And Aaron, he's just, like I said, he makes the game easy for you. I mean, I remember coming in.

Protection is a big thing for rookie running backs coming in. He just made it so easy for me when I was out there on the field. He knows who's blitzing, when they're blitzing, and where they're coming from. He's like, hey, you got him and him. You're going to run this route. So as a rookie, he just made it easy for me. And now, like seeing that, I understand protection so much, so much cleaner. And I know where it's coming from now.

And that's just one of the many things A-Rod has taught me. A-Rod, you're the NFC Player of the Week. Did the team celebrate you? Did you get announced at the end of practice? Was it in a team meeting? How was it told? I got the game ball after the game. We haven't had a team meeting.

We had a team meeting two days ago, but we haven't had one since. So we'll have one tomorrow, so I'll be looking forward to it. Your team is damn good. The Green Bay Packers fan base is one that is incredibly loyal. They show up everywhere. What's it been like playing for the Green Bay Packers? Oh, man, it's been an honor and a blessing. We have the best fans in the country.

We travel. They take over stadiums. We're in other stadiums. You hear the Go Pack Go chant break out. You could be anywhere in the world and somebody hears you play for the Packers front, all you play is for the Packers. Nine times out of 10, there's a Packers fan somewhere around. So it's just been amazing. It's been a blessing. I love the support that the Packers have and I'd love to see it continue. Aaron, I'm a partial owner of the team, and I was ringing the bell really hard last year

that I thought you should have had the lion's share of the carries because you performed every time you did, and it didn't really shake out that way with McCarthy. How did you kind of stay the course, or what were you expecting to change with the different head coach coming in? You just know never too high never too low um you're gonna get your chances and when you do get your chances make the most of them um and with with that being said uh you you gotta you gotta do the most like i said with every opportunity because you don't know when your next one's gonna come um if you're playing sparingly. So you've got to do everything you can to try to keep yourself on the field.

Are you going to continue to wave at defenders as you run by them? No, sir, I'm not. You don't have to sir that guy. I thought that was incredible, by the way. I wish I had enough speed to do that in my life. I couldn't do that to a homeless man walking down the street. My knee would blow out. I enjoyed that was incredible, by the way. I wish I had enough speed to do that in my life. I couldn't do that to a homeless man walking down the street. My knee would blow out. I enjoyed that.

It does ring true, though, that it sounds like you guys are having fun. I mean, when you win, it's a lot of fun. Matt LaFleur, whenever he came there, this is his first time being a head coach. Has he emphasized you guys enjoying it? Are you guys having a good time? Or is that more team-oriented as opposed to coaching-oriented it's coach is, it's a little bit of both. Um, you know, you, you start playing the game and when you start playing the game at a young age, you're, you're playing for fun. You're playing for the love of the game. And so me personally, I feel like that's one of the

joys of the game. And when it's all about is going out there, having fun and enjoying your 52 other brothers that you've been putting in work with all summer did you did you get told not to wave at anybody again yes sir how'd that conversation go i want to hear that that is a hilarious situation that i would never be in in my entire life like hey just just run to the sideline like hey you know you can get flagged for that that's taunting and I'm like well coach I was kind of in the zone I'm sorry I apologize I didn't realize I waved but uh he was like no that's fine um just don't just don't let it happen again um because you can get fired and that could

have caused you a touchdown and they could have brought it back and I don't want that'll happen again um because you can get fired and that could have caused you a touchdown and they could have brought it back and i don't want that to happen so i'm like all right coach thank you yeah it's not great for the team if they throw a flag there if the refs throw a flag there though i mean they're the worst humans on earth that's just but i guess they actually could i guess because it is taunting you do 15 from there and take it back which ultimately hurts your team so i can understand that they don't like it these refs stink anyways you don't have to say it i'll say it um what'll say it. What are the expectations for the Packers going forward? What do you guys work on this week?

We just continue to work on ourselves, continue to keep growing and evolving as a unit, and stack our successful days, and like I said, continue to grow and take it one day at a time. Hey, why did the offense – it seems like you guys are finally hitting a groove. Granted, it was only one game, but what has it been that has made you guys not be a super productive offense to on Sunday really blowing up? And should Packers fans and the NFL expect what happened on Sunday more often

now that you guys are more comfortable with the offense that LaFleur has brought? And what was the big change to get you guys comfortable in the offense? The offense is just evolving. All of our first year is in the offense. So we're going to continue to grow. And I said this at the beginning of the season, each week you'll continue to see growth and stride in our offense. And I feel like our offense can continue to grow.

We can still, we've been down in the red zone where we can finish drives and different things like that. So we're going to continue to work on ourselves and continue to grow so we can be that complete package. Do you have anything to say about J.K. Scott who just absolutely slaughters footballs on fourth downs when you guys can't pick up a first down? I call J.K. the boot.

The boot. That man, yeah, he's special he's a definitely a weapon um he he helps us he flips the field position i mean he want i can't remember what point it was i think it was either the second or third game he punched the ball and it the ball it looks like somebody dropped it out of the sky it hang was Hank Tom. I was like, man. So I'm glad to have J.K. on our team. I've been watching him for a while since he was at Alabama. So J.K. is a great guy, and it's just a blessing to have him on our team. He does Pilates, by the way.

It's not yoga. I was told that that is the difference. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who said hello to the world on Sunday. Vital part of that Green Bay Packers offense. Can't wait to watch you to continue to grow. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Jones. Thank you, man. Thank you. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of yours too, man. And the wave, by the way, I know you almost got in trouble for it or whatever.

The wave is what locked it in for me. I was like, I love this dude. Good for you, man. Yes, sir. Alright, have a great day. Alright, thank you. That's a shame he won't be waving at defenders anymore. Tyreek Hill kind of made a living after chucking the deuce to people while he ran by him. But rules is rules.

Don't need to get a 15-yard personal foul and get it taken back. The way he talked about J.K. Scott tickled me right in my tank. Guys slaughtering football is not only for the brand but for the Packers. Matt LaFleur's, that offense is kind of coming together. Kind of watching it operate is fantastic. Aaron Rodgers said they're having a good time. Aaron Jones said the same thing. I was impressed by Aaron Jones, by the way.

I thought he was very, very, very good. He doesn't do a lot of interviews either. Doesn't talk much. When you ever, if you ever run for four tutters in primetime television, you should open your mouth and spew some shit because people want to hear it. Very thankful he came on the show. Also, very, very, very thankful for Bespoke Post, a company that has completely changed my life.

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I think people are going to enjoy this story. Now granted, London games are tough to judge. I played in London. We got beat by the Jacksonville Jaguars. We should not have lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars. But when you fly overseas routines are completely changed we chose to fly over there on friday or thursday i forget what it was later in the week some teams go out to earlier in the week to get adjusted and all that

blah blah blah we went later in the week trying to just keep it as regular as possible we're going to keep our sleep schedule on the eastern standard time we're not're not going to adjust to London so that the game is just the same thing. Because I think whenever the game's at 10 a.m. American time or whatever it was, 11, we were just going to try to play off of that. We're just going to stay. We're not going to get adjusted to the London thing. We're just going to keep doing it. But whenever guys have off time, they're

going to go out to London at night. I mean, the routine was just completely changed. So I don't like judging off the London game. Just like I don't like judging off the Thursday night games because when routines are changed, football players are changed. Football players are creatures of habit. That's just the way it is. We got this at this time, this at this time, nap at this

time, eat at this time, potentially fornicate at this time, do this and then sleep and then start it over and do this. That's the way a football schedule has been. Through high school it's that way. In college, every single moment of your life is dictated by the head coach. You're doing this. And in the NFL, it's the same thing. Boom, boom, boom. That's why whenever rookies get their first offseason after their first season, there's always all hell breaks loose. That's when you see people get in trouble because it's the

first time their life hasn't been on a schedule basically since they were a child. So when you go to London, the routine changes. When you play on Thursday night, routine changes. For me, when we went to London, Walt Anderson screwed me. Walt Anderson had me kicking brand new footballs because he refused to let the beat-up footballs get into the game because Walt Anderson's Walt Anderson.

So for the first time in my life, I was punting footballs in front of a crowd that wanted to see balls get punted, and I got to punt brand new balls because Walt Anderson wouldn't do the protocol. Called Dean Blandino the next day. I said, listen, Dean, I ain't doing it no more. I'll bury Walt Anderson. He said, no, no, no.

It's my job to make sure Walt Anderson follows protocol, which is the balls get broken in for 30 minutes, then Walt Anderson has to okay four balls, and then he lets the balls in. Walt Anderson didn't okay any of the balls that were beat up. Only took the brand new balls, put them in there. Might as well have been kicking a cement ball in front of all these people that actually

respect kicking. I was going to try to pull in a shot. Didn't do great. But other than that, my routine was okay. Benatari and I, Joe Philbin, got a massage on Friday night in the hotel. Learned a lot about England from the massage therapist there. Everybody else kind of went out.

That was kind of an interesting thing. I was like, oh, we're the only people that aren't out right now. Me, Vinatieri, and Joe Philbin. Now, maybe that doesn't make us cultured because we didn't want to go see the Big Ben and all that stuff. Probably accurate. Probably American Meatheads. But for me, I just wanted to sleep. I want to get out of here.

I'd also potentially taken over their 30 edibles. sleep. I want to get out of here. I'd also potentially taken over their 30 edibles because I thought more teammates of mine were going to want to indulge in that either before the game or after the game. And to get to London, you go through your own TSA here. The team has TSA

that you have to check in. Here's my passport. The Colts already have it. They took it all from everybody. It's literally you get your bags checked and then you're through. Put them in a little thing. We're good to go. It's the team's TSA. Get on the bus. Fly over there. I forgot all about them. Didn't utilize them at all because how things

quickly change. Right. After we lose to Jacksonville Jaguars, we're on the team bus. They go, hey, we're going through Heathrow Airport through the real life TSA. And at that moment, I look around. I go, oh no. I have a lot. I have some things in my bag right now that have vitamins in them. I have to get rid of them. And at that

point, I'd whittled it down to like 15 of them. And I look at Vinatieri. And I'm like, buddy, not good. He's like, what are you gonna do? I was like, I guess I'm just gonna throw him away in here. Couldn't do that. Because right next to the trash can was an English police officer. So I couldn't just walk up and dump a bunch of edibles into the thing next to the guy he's gonna ask questions we're going to the heathrow airport now i gotta do what i gotta do we finally get there police escorts a lot going on so i just take down 13 edibles yikes see you later vinitaria looks at me he goes how you doing bub i was like good now but things are about to happen he goes i got your little buddy i'm like thank you so we go through the little check-in thing. And right before we get

to the scan of the bags thing, it all hits me. I might as well have been on cloud 45 over there in London. They checked my bag. Boom, boom, boom. I get selected. Something was in my bag. So now all of a sudden I'm like oh no did i leave a couple in there oh my god vinatieri starts walking ahead he turns around he's like what's going on like they got my bag man he's like what's going on like i have no idea so he comes and stands with me he's like i got you bub i was like they might got me for real i might be staying the night in england they go through my bag turns Turns out I had a vibrating toothbrush. The thing was vibrating in my bag.

They're like, oh, it must have been this. Or it must have been my big-ass toothpaste because you can't fly with that. I was like, you got it, pal. I get all the way back to the plane. Lost my ticket somewhere. Somehow I don't have a ticket. So now I've got to check into the gate, people, that I don't have a ticket. I'm like, I'm on this plane. I promise I am, but I don't have a ticket. They're like, what check into the gate, people, that I don't have a ticket. I'm like, I'm on this plane.

I promise I am, but I don't have a ticket. They're like, what's your name? I'm like, Patrick McAfee. McAfee? No, yeah, whatever you want to call me. I just need a ticket. So now I have to sit there and wait as somebody brings me a ticket from the front while my entire team walks by me, knowing that I'm on cloud 50, just having a good time. Grigson walks by, just upset, obviously.

I wish he would have known that I was in a mood where he should have talked to me there. It was just a nightmare. The London trip for me from beginning to end was not good, and I think that happens for a lot of NFL players. It's just a completely break from routine. It's not fun. You have to fly back. You're playing in a soccer stadium. Now granted, some teams thrive in that situation. The Bears did not. The International Bears aren't great. The Colts weren't great. It's different for a lot of teams. The Raiders look good, but I don't like to judge anybody off of those European trips because everything's different. And it's not like a bowl game different. It's just completely different. And for me, it almost ended with my death. I would not recommend doing that, obviously. Dire circumstances result in dire actions.

I couldn't be locked up abroad, not in the middle of the goddamn season, so I had to do what I had to do. I'm happy I survived. I'll never do it again. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. But I learned how to play dominoes with Antonio Cromartie while I was there, and I feel like I learned a lot.

I will slam the hell out of a table, by the way, if I got 20 in bones. I can play cards. I know how to play dominoes now. I got to see the northern lights while we were flying on those edibles. I mean, we lost to the Jaguars. But some would say I won in the long run because I learned a lot that night. Do you want to be able to watch every single NFL game this season? Yes, is your answer. No matter where you live or what team you root for this season, there's a proven way to watch every football game live for a fraction of the price

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Josh Sitton was a Bear for only a couple years. He was a Packer for forever. He joined us earlier this week for an incredible conversation. It makes you look at things a little bit differently whenever you hear the big guy talk about how offenses thrive. It was Zito's birthday yesterday. Failed to mention that on the podcast probably a bad boss but we allowed him to pick his favorite moment happy birthday to him and congratulations to you to get to listen to this incredible football player talk about life joining us right now is a man who played in the NFL for 11 years.

Three-time All-Pro, Super Bowl champion, one of Aaron Rodgers' friends, which I like and love. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us right now, Josh Sitton. What's up, man? Hey, thanks for calling into the show, bro. What are you doing right now? Just driving around with a couple kids in the back there? Yeah.

Can you see my baby? Actually, just left a meeting at a building that I bought, and we turn our kids around with us all the time. Okay, let's get to that. You're an offensive guard for 11 years in the NFL, not an easy position. It seems like you're transitioning well into retirement. What are you doing? You buy buildings?

You just flip properties? We'll do a little bit of both. I've got a construction company and a development company. So I do some residential and a lot of commercial real estate. And we just bought a big post office building in downtown Pensacola, and we are in the process of renovating it right now. So it's a cool project. It's a 120-year-old building, so it should be fun. Oh, I'm sure you won't have to upgrade the air conditioning or anything. Not at all.

All right, let's move to football, because you were an incredible football player, and there's a lot of incredible football happening right now. You have a great familiarity with the Green Bay Packers. We can talk about the Green Bay Packers and their team being incredible, who I think are going to represent the NFC. But I also said that before watching the San Francisco 49ers last night, who happened to be a damn good team. How do you see the state of the NFC kind of shaping up this season? I mean, I think there's two teams that are at the top. I think the Saints and the Packers will be in the NFC Championship. Anytime you can win games like the Packers are with their defense

and you still have Aaron Rodgers who hasn't really even turned it on yet, they're going to be a dangerous team. I think they'll probably end up in the NFC Championship. Like I said, the Saints are unbelievable. To have their backup quarterback go in and do what they're doing right now, it's pretty cool to watch. I'm really happy for Teddy. He's an awesome

guy. I played against him against Minnesota for a few years. It's fun to watch. When they get Drew back, they're going to be dangerous as well. I think they're the top of the class and I don't think really anybody else is close to them. I thought that too until I saw the Niners last night,

but that might be because the Browns just laid a complete egg last night. I gave an entire take earlier in the show about how whenever you start talking and start doing things as an NFL player, you're setting yourself up for people to hate you. The Cleveland Browns have done that. They laid a big egg last night and now people are just piling on them. Do you have the same view on that whole thing?

Yeah, I'm not sold on Baker Mayfield yet. He's just so young. I don't think they can expect to get out of him what they need this early in his career. I think their offensive line is struggling right now.

And they've got one of the better centers in the league, J.C. Tratter, and one of the better left guards, Joel Batonio. But at the other positions, they're lacking a little bit. And you've got to be able to have – you've got to be able to solidify one side of the offensive line because you can only chip on one side, you know, things like that. So if they had a solid, super solid left tackle, I think they'd be fine. But you can't put all that on Baker right now.

And I don't think – I'm not impressed with really with the 49ers yet. I don't think they've played a whole lot of competition yet. But I think they'll get exposed whenever they start seeing some competition. That's so interesting to think from an offensive lineman standpoint. When I watch film and when I watch a game, everybody knows I pay attention to the punter and the kicker. I'm watching them. I'm watching

the holder. I'm kind of watching what I'm familiar with whenever that's on. And then whenever the offense and defense is on the field, I'm just watching it as a casual fan, I'd assume. but whenever these guys who play these positions for instance i have a linebacker friend that he what he catches himself whenever he's watching football he just watches the middle linebacker to see what that person's doing i have an offensive lineman friend aq he says when he watches other games he's literally watching what the center's doing an offensive lineman's perspective on football is so much different and to hear you say

they're one good left tackle away from potentially being something is interesting that i don't think i've heard yet yeah i mean so think about it i mean you have to you're gonna you're gonna have weak spots on the o-line right you need but you need three out of the five to be good to be a good offensive line and you need you need to be able to you know you're always gonna have that weak spot like i said you're gonna need to help you know with the running back or the tight end or chip or whatever um and if you've got three holes on the line you can't cover up for that and with a young quarterback it's just you're asking too much of them you know we had years in green bay that um you know we had injuries the things that are quite as good but we had aaron rogers he could

he could overcome that baker's too young in his career to to overcome that speaking of too young and he's that's so fascinating by the way that was i feel like i just learned something about football and i feel like i've been around football a lot more than most people that was very very fascinating to hear that i appreciate that speaking of baker being young in his career richard sherman won off because during the captain's coin toss, Baker refused to dap anybody up, fist bump, do anything like that. I told a story about how I don't even know how it's possible to do that because you're literally set up by the refs to shake hands with each other. You're literally told to touch hands with each other. So to just say no, I think it takes a massive amount of gut sack and the amount of awkwardness that that has

to be is incredible. But I think Richard Sherman's right here. Like, just give a fist bump, dude. Do something. And do you think that could potentially hurt Baker Mayfield with that mindset? Just give a fist bump, man. And if you're not going to do it, you better go ball out. You see these kids on Instagram all the time,

the high school football players always see those clips of them clapping and not shaking hands before the game and then they go out and get their ass beat and uh it's uh just shake just shake somebody's hand and if you're not going to go go play better than that i think that's the thing though is we're all adults you know and i think as you get older in the nfl you start dealing with the business of the nfl and i think that's when you really, whenever you have to go through your first contract negotiation. When I was young, and even until the day I retired, I would go into that building with a lot of energy, positive, upbeat, like, hey, let's do this for the team. Let's have fun.

Even if it was fake energy, it was something that people could laugh at. And a lot of the older players are like, just wait until you go through your first negotiation. You haven't even experienced the business of this whole thing. What do you think people, now that you've been retired and you kind of mingle with humans, what do you think people don't understand about the NFL from the outsider's perspective? Well, they think it's the same old sport that you've been playing

since you were a kid, and it's really not. It's not all the glitz and glamour and glory that they all see. And that's, I mean, that's what they see, though. They just see you on Sundays. They don't realize how terrible your body feels on Mondays. You know, there was mornings that I couldn't walk to my freaking bathroom on Monday morning, you know. And, you know, fans don't see that.

And they don't care. They're not watching football to worry about you or I feeling good. You know, they're watching it because they want to be entertained. And, you know, to them it's entertainment, and, you know, to us it's our business. It's our livelihood. But I don't think people realize how bad you get beat up and how bad you feel on Monday and Tuesday. I have nothing but respect for offensive linemen because let me tell you why.

Zero credit ever. Zero credit ever. Every once in a while you'll be like, hey, the line blocked good today, but that's coming from other players. That's not coming from the media. That's not coming from anybody else. I think Quentin Nelson is kind of changing that.

Have you seen Quentin Nelson play football, and do you appreciate the hell out of that as a former guard? Oh, I love it. And I was actually thinking about it this morning when I was thinking about the interview. I was hoping that he got brought up. I've been watching him, and, you know, as a guard that was in the league that played a year, you know, when he was playing, you know,

you think, oh, this guy's just a rookie first-round pick. He's getting a bunch of BS hype. Well, it's real hype, and he's that good. He's pretty impressive to watch. He's really good in the run game. Everybody knows he's a mauler, but I've watched some things in the past game that you see out of guys that have been in the league for a long time. You know, he's knocking people's hands down and putting them on their face, which is like an old kind of veteran move.

You know, you see guys in their sixth, seventh, eighth, tenth year doing that. And he's doing it already. So watch him do these little crafty things. It's pretty damn impressive. Everybody knows how big of a mauler he is, but he's a technician, too, and he's a hell of an athlete. And he seems like a great guy. So I'm happy that he's getting some love at the guard position he's got a finesse game as

well i can respect the hell out of that because the only highlight you see is him just barreling over people because it's fantastic i mean that is awesome to watch a professional athlete barrel over another professional athlete who has trained all of his life for this moment. And just to watch big Earl gray, wreck it, Ralph Quentin Nelson, just bury humans on a regular basis. Is it? And we just showed a picture of him sitting on the back of another man.

I mean, it's just, it is awesome. But to hear that he's a technician as well as beautiful. What do you think about, um, Al Alberto River on in these rules? Have you been watching the games?

It's been flag fest. The reviews are a joke. It's all terrible right now. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of it. I think starting that review with the pass interference is just going to create more drama. I think you let the refs call the game. We're all humans, and we all make mistakes.

And the refs, I promise you, aren't winning or losing games. Let them go call the game. I think the refs are not very good in this league, but you still have to let them go do their job. You're slowing the game down. You're going to open it up to – you're going to start reviewing every freaking play if we keep going down this path.

It just slows it down and makes it boring. Josh, I can't thank you enough for your time today, taking it out of your busy schedule. We've got to get to a break here in a minute. You have been insightful, entertaining. And the thought of just eliminating reviews and just expecting refs to mess up and it just being a part of the game

is an interesting thought as well. That is something that like, yeah, listen, they're going to mess up. That's just's just what you're gonna deal with because with the review in there you're expecting perfection and i don't think that's happening at this point i think it's a an absolute cluster truck good luck with your business my brother we hope to have you on again soon you were really good man i appreciate you all right appreciate you man yep hey take care ladies and gentlemen hey a couple things in there that i haven't thought about by the way the view from an offensive lineman's life very different than ours i could always walk to the

bathroom on monday mornings so i can't actually i couldn't when i had a dislocated kneecap my last season so even the weakest position in the nfl goes through some stuff we're grossly overpaid though i think we would all agree with that. What a beautiful conversation that was from Josh Sitton. You love that guy yet? He's a road grader for the Packers. I was really disappointed when they let him go. Josh Sitton was absolutely magical.

He said he would join us again. I hope he does. I hope his business is thriving. Good entrepreneur. He had a camouflage hat on and still had that beard, so he's a good old boy. But his football IQ is a good one. I never thought about that where if you have two bad offensive linemen, at least your running back and tight end can pick that up. You have three bad offensive linemen, though. You're pretty much fucked unless your quarterback can figure it out. Cleveland could be dealing with that right now.

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and he are proud older graduates of Penn States. We love the Nittany Lions. We go to all the sports, but we miss the days of the clean cut athletes. and he directed this directly to one of the players and said that your dreads are basically unprofessional and unbecoming of Penn State University I have a similar story with Penn State University where Mike McQuarrie told me right to my face I was not Penn State material Mike McQuQuarrie, obviously, would go on to become the guy that would testify, saying that he saw Sandusky, blah, blah, blah, that whole terrible thing that happened. He told me,

right to my face, he didn't think I was Penn State material. Now, we got an older white sending a letter, a typed letter with some grammatical errors, by the way, some grammatical errors, a comma issue here, a comma issue there, to a player that his dreadlocks

are basically unbecoming of Penn State. And then he goes on to say that the NFL is no longer something he enjoys due to the disgusting tattoos, awful hair, and immature antics in the end zone. Now, we don't know who he's speaking about there because both Caucasians and African-Americans and Australian-Americans and Canadian-Americans and Italian-Americans, Italian-Americans. Everybody has every genre of human is represented in the tattoo world is represented in the antics in the end zone world is represented in the long hair world

it's just something so we don't know exactly who he's taking a shot at there but we can assume that this penn state player that posted this uh is an african-american man even though white people sometimes have dreadlocks if they've just completely given up on everything dreadlocks in the african-american community though mean a lot more it is a touch to the soul basically it is one with the gods almost it is a very integral part of some communities in the african-american culture which for me by the way i think is incredible i love the fact i had long hair at one time i wish i could have got dreadlocks i think they look awesome but white people with dreadlocks is automatically like god this guy this guy does all the drugs.

That's what you think. You see a white guy with dreadlocks, you go, this guy does all the drugs. So this letter was directed directly at an African-American player and directly at something that is coming from him and his culture. So a lot of people said, this guy is racist. And I won't hop on that train, although this is obviously a pretty racial thing for him. He doesn't like it, and I think there was hints of it.

For me, this is just a classic old white man thinking that his opinion matters. Now, listen, your opinion does not matter. And a lot of people tweeted me like, oh, if you're getting offended by this, you don't hang out with enough old people. I'm like, no crap. No crap. My grandma died whenever I was a teenager. My other grandma passed away when my dad was 16. My grandfather, my brother and I's grandfathers didn't really like us much,

so we didn't really hang out with them. I was around zero old people. What I'm around, I feel like I like to surround myself with, is good humans. People that aren't stupid, that don't say dumb things. Now granted, social media has given a platform for too many idiots. Too many idiots get a platform on social media. But the fact that this guy thinks his opinion matters enough, to me, is the problem. The fact that this guy thinks anything he has to say affects anything is my problem.

And this is the self-awareness issue, not only with people of the world today, not only with the old whites of the day who hate everything almost it seems like no granted this isn't all old whites and this is not all old uh people in general this is not all caucasians this is a specific breed of old whites that are the worst humans on the planet and us other caucasians we hate that they exist as well oh yeah because we live in a world that uses a broad brush to paint over everything so when this letter gets sent white people look bad white people have been doing dumb things for a long long time dumb things and we'll probably by the way continue to

do dumb things for a long long time i just want the world to know that that particular section of whites the people that call uh the police when people are selling water, the people that ask people's cars to get towed, the people that, let's see, arrest you for walking in public a little bit intoxicated at 4 a.m., these particular group of whites are not a good group of whites, and we should all band together and hate them. And that's how I truly feel about it. And Dave Peterson is a guy that i absolutely despise you should too if you see his other writings that he writes into the

gazette or whatever in johnstown pennsylvania he's a joke this guy is an absolute joke and they posted a picture of him in the newspaper his hair is disheveled looks like he just got done hanging out with sandusky for 25 minutes that guy stinks and i just want everybody to know that we all hate him but we all hate that man and we hope things like that will cease to exist but it won't because the world is filled with idiots we learn that every day on the internet well it was a hell of a fucking week for us i hope you enjoyed it we had the richard sherman interview that happened that took over the world Well, it was a hell of a fucking week for us. I hope you enjoyed it. We had the Richard Sherman interview that happened.

It took over the world. Got a chance to call another great game down here in Raleigh, North Carolina. Got a chance to chat with some incredible folks. Got a chance to saw down an old white. Week five is down on this incredible run we're having this fall season. And we are so, so thankful for all of you fucking with us along the journey. Normally we have Friday bangers. But I honestly think the heaters we've been playing at the end of the podcast have been so damn good. And that will not end.

Today, Ty Schmidt's about to hit you in the face and send you into the weekend on a beautiful fashion. From myself, Evan Fox, Ty Schmidt, Jose Perez, who's another year older, happy birthday, Zito. Happy birthday, Zito. Anthony DiGilio, all of us at PMI, including these two pilots that hopefully have kept us alive all the way through landing, you're the absolute greatest. Ty Schmidt, hit the music yeah and you say shot city shot city shot city coming home again yeah

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