The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1161 - Michael Lombardi, Phoenix Suns and Mercury Owner Mat Ishbia, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s MLB All-Star Game and how it was a very enjoyable experience, and hands down the best All-Star Game of any of the major sports leagues, they chat about the Houston Texans officially reporting for training camp today and make their Super Bowl predictions later in the show, plus everything else happening around the NFL and the sports world as a whole. Joining the progrum to chat about what we need to look for as training camps open up, and his thoughts about the look of the Giants front office in the new Hard Knocks is 3x Super Bowl Champion, host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle pod, NY Times best selling author, Michael Lombardi. Later, owner of the Phoenix Suns and Phoenix Mercury, Mat Ishbia joins the show to chat about the WNBA All-Star game this weekend in Phoenix, his expectations for the Suns moving forward, the conversations he had with guys who are competing in the Olympics, and much more. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this glorious Sports Wednesday, July 17th, 2024, this program starts now. What a glorious time to be alive in the sports world. The All-Star Game last night is obviously the topic of conversation to discuss everything that took place between the future stars in baseball. And obviously, I'm not going to be the one that is going to do this because I am not the baseball aficionado. Although, the town in which I hail from, Pittsburgh, has the best baseball player to ever play baseball. And that was on display last night as the uniforms were cropped.

I think we all agree the uniforms were cropped. Absolute crap. But whatever. You do what you got to do. I mean, all agree the uniforms were crap. Absolute crap. But whatever. You do what you got to do. I mean, they're always going to take shots. I mean, that's just how it goes whenever you're talking about specialty events. It wasn't really the jerseys or the socks. Like, Paul Skeens was making this record-breaking moment, historic moment,

as the first rookie to start in like 29 years or whatever it was. And he had these socks on that just like, wait, he's got massive calves, this guy. Yes, he does. And it was just like, why is he dressed like that? He looks like a clown show. And this is like a historic moment in the history of baseball. But with that being said, I think the tarps aren't that bad. I actually maybe would wear one of those around town, the color schemes and everything.

So I think they're trying to be special, trying to make it special, doing their thing, whatever it was. Fun game to watch. Feels like out of all the leagues, that is a sport where they actually play the sport, and they try. Saw a double play get turned by a really good player. It wasn't like a full song and dance, like, oh, yeah, we did something awesome. It was just like a, and we're moving on to the next one. Felt like a great battle.

Felt like a great game. That's my thoughts. Let's go to the talks table. At Boston Corner, you look fantastic. And Ty Schmidt. Now, Ty, I know you are a massive baseball fan. You have been our baseball guy. You have sat right in there and forced all of us to fall asleep in the middle

of an afternoon while watching a baseball game from beginning to the end. You watch baseball. You love the Yankees. Aaron Judge is a guy that you have dangled from for a couple years, like Godzilla off of a building over there in New York. You said this is the guy. He's the hottest he's ever been. Best hitter in baseball. The future of the Yankees. Pinst. You said this is the guy. He's the hottest he's ever been. By far. Best hitter in baseball.

The future of Yankees. Pinstripes. This is the guy. Classic. And if it happens, the next best pitcher in the history of baseball is on his way up. There's a chance that these two titans will collide. The game started exactly how baseball fans wanted this thing to go. Right, Ty?

Yeah, pretty much. Got a little, well, to go back a step further, Cody Johnson. Oh, shit. Starting with the National Anthem. Hey, way to go. Hey, Kojo. Needed it, Cody. I don't know why, but I kind of was thinking like, oh, no.

Like, what if it's just something down in Texas and he kind of botches this, too? He didn't. He absolutely knocked it out of the park when we needed it. Beautiful rendition. Thank you, Kojo. We needed you, Kojo. Actual cowboy too. I saw a video on the internet of him and our friend Parker

running into each other. Familiar foes here. They're both ranchers. Both cowboys there. And then Hallie Rae McCollum, who is Parker's wife, walks up. Kojo, as soon as he had a... And then Hallie Rae McCollum, who is Parker's wife, walks up. Cody Johnson, as soon as he had a... I didn't miss. And then him and Parker went back to some ranching shit.

So, I mean, in Texas, to deliver the national anthem, he delivered in the moment in which he delivered. What we were coming off of, which, by the way, we're pulling for. Hey, we're pulling for it. This is a good thing. This is a pivot point in her life. She's going to get four. Kojo, crush it.

You're 100% right. And also, we had – Yeah, we had the Cowboys out there doing the lasso tricks when they were announcing the starting lineups. I mean, everything that you would want from a Texas-sized All-Star game, you got – I mean, look at those boys roping. There was a couple of them kind of mailing it in a few times. Absolutely.

Light rain. Light rain. You could kind of pinpoint, like, okay, that guy's a Cowboy. This guy's a stand-in. This guy's just out there to look good. But a couple of them, they – Pretty good. Yeah, pretty darn good.

They went. So all this pomp and circumstance. We're joking, by the way. Every ropes person was awesome. Yeah, top-down. They were going foot – there was people doing one of these things. Yo-yo. Oh, yeah.

And then putting it over top of them. I thought we were watching America's Got Talent right there. It looked like it. Who was it? Mighty Ducks. Mighty Ducks. Yeah, Dwayne Robertson. Yeah, right. Dwayne roberts i was enjoying the shit out of the show me too i like that they brought the hats for uh the little kids and had them run by i mean it was aaron judge also did

that the best out of everybody so my wife actually noticed it uh they're all running out giving the hat to the kid yep and then they would run down kid would follow so camera would only get the all-star which by the way massive moment all-star, which, by the way, massive moment, all-star thing. Aaron Judge comes out. My wife was like, shouldn't they let the kid go first? And literally, Aaron Judge comes out, gives the hat, goes, go ahead, and then he falls behind. It was like, this guy.

This is the guy. Now, Paul Skeens was in there doing that bat. Yeah. Awesome, dude. Yeah, he was doing whatever he had to do, so he didn't get an opportunity. He would have done it right as well, but you're right. All-Star Games seemingly started out beautiful.

I enjoyed the program. For sure. I enjoyed the show. Yeah show yeah i think a big part of it is because like you really you really can't sugarcoat it it's not like the pro bowl it's not like the nba all-star game like a game of baseball is a game of baseball you can't really you know yeah exactly exactly it seemed like the players cared and i think for something like this when you play this many games like these guys are so used to playing anyway so like being able to to be on many games, these guys are so used to playing anyway. So being able to be on the field with other guys who you respect and you don't get to see that often, it really is kind of like, hey, yeah, we have to go out there and we have to play,

but at the same time, this is fun and we can kind of jack around a little bit more. But nobody wants to get yammed on. No, absolutely not. But I think that is part of, so like to go back to Judge versus Ske like oh let's go back to that yeah what happened so what happened in the first inning how'd it go down got a little testy there i got um i got nervous because skeens made quick work of steven kwan and gunner henderson and it was like oh great here we go he's gonna go one two three we're not we're gonna be deprived of like the one thing that everybody really wants to see and i don't know if this is true but but in my opinion, it kind of seemed like it.

I think Skeen's kind of pitched around Juan Soto a little bit. Juan Soto has led the MLB in walks the last three years. First pitch, 94 low. Exactly. Called a strike, though. He's dancing with the strike zone. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think the idea was like, hey, I could burn three right down the middle,

and we'll see. Maybe he grounds out. Maybe he gets a base hit or whatever. But I think in his head, he was like, you know what? I do want to face Aaron Judge. Soto's got great discipline, so I think he knew. Pitches like that, he's not going to chase these. We saw a couple good splinkers there that made him look kind of silly,

but then Soto ends up getting walked. I think it's an important thing to go, it gets full count, right? Yes. I think it ends up getting a full count. Correct. Yeah, right here. Good pizzazz. Good pizzazz.

Yeah, Soto. He's celebrating his good eye, but this pitch right there, that could have been a strike. Crossed him up a little bit. You can see Contreras is expecting a pitch almost right down the middle and is a little inside. So I don't think he was necessarily ready for that. But I do think Skeens.

Skeens threw the pitch like, okay, this could be a strike. It could be a strikeout. Right. Or it could be a ball. We could walk in. Everybody in baseball gets to show that they want to see. Exactly. Because where he puts this, I mean, if you look at the last two strikes, same exact placement on the box on the bottom, though.

It's like he's spraying the outside of it and the the little like k-zone thing they have yellow is strike so like if he catches that square and frames it he's probably bringing it inside a little bit it probably would have been a strike but but yeah i think skeins would have won one two three by the way and he all-stars the first rook is just absolute stud exactly damn ball but but i also do think like skeins is competitor and i said this yesterday. He knows how good his stuff is, and he wanted that challenge. It's like, you know what?

This is the all-star game. This isn't like a – like we're here to give people a show, essentially. Like they want – Juan Soto is one of the best players in baseball. So, yeah, he's no slouch. But like everyone kind of – obviously he can't face Otani. They're on the same team, and he already has faced him this year. Like everyone wanted to see Skeens versus Judge. And we got to see it, baby!

Hell yeah. We did. But I think, again, this is the all-star game of it. Judge is trying to hit a homer. And to Skeens' credit, Skeens throws him one right down the cock. He's giving him the opportunity. I think we have the clip later where Skeens talks about the at-bat afterwards. But, like, that's why the All-Star game is kind of awesome.

He's not, like, trying to, you know, really be, like, I don't know, like, in the zone and pitch to him, pitching away, like, kind of keep him guessing. He went right after him. He threw him a fastball right down the middle. Judge tries to hit a homer. And, obviously, you know, Skeens stuffs incredibly. Kind of gets on top of it a little bit and grounds out. So, it's one of those things where you you put all this hype into it and then

the at bat doesn't really deliver but that's kind of baseball in a nutshell but still like the the way everything played out i think it is baseball i think it was a massive a massive success for the mlb and then we talked about it yesterday the pirates go to new york later in the season so it's kind of just like a little taste. I'd love to see Skeens throw seven innings against the Yankees and see Aaron Judge get three to four at-bats against him. I'd like to see him get nine innings, back-to-back-to-back. Me too. I'd like the Pirates to kind of –

I'd like to see him get 27 straight innings against the Yankees. That'd be awesome. With 20 strikeouts. That'd be incredible. Straight through. That'd be incredible. Because there is a chance Paul Skeens gets there. He looks around and he goes, yeah, this place is supposed to be here.

I'm pitching all these games. It's my apple. I've decided, yeah, the big apple is Paul's apple all of a sudden. We just got word from, I believe, Paul Skeens directly. He was trying to strike out Soto. Was he? Yeah, he said. That's literally the message we just got.

I was trying to strike him out. Yeah, from the people. I wanted it. He was trying to strike, which he did I guess, but then it going to going to Aaron Judge it's like, in his eyes he had to have heard, now granted we just got that message

literally as you're speaking about that thing so he heard the noise about him and Aaron Judge too I would have loved to been whenever that ball was called and then all of a sudden you look over and there's Aaron Judge cover it's like okay well here's the show Paul competitor oh yeah big time like that is the thing that they were telling his story a little bit more and he has sat right here and he got a chance to chat with him a few different

times and he's awesome like he is just like seemingly well I think and you saw his girlfriend let me done she can date whoever she wants I think, and you saw his girlfriend, Livvy Dunn, she can date whoever she wants. I think Paul Skeens is probably a hilarious human being. I would assume so. I would assume on the day-to-day, he is a hilarious human being. He's a rookie right now, though, okay? He's got a lot of hype on him.

Has a little combo. And the guy wanted to be a fighter pilot. Yeah. So like you're talking like the guy wants to be, yeah, like wants to be, I think, just like, we're not causing any issues here. Interviews, we're doing this. We're moving along. Trying to be yeah like wants to be i think just like we're not causing any issues here interviews we're doing this we're moving along trying to get better trying to work i think he is a perfect person to potentially become that they were telling a lot of stories about him yeah last night and i feel like we had done a disservice in talking to him

so i guess they allegedly there's a chance he was too big to be a fighter pilot without a doubt he thought he was going to be wanted to be still wants to potentially go back and do the entire thing that was like his dream to do it he's a catcher like being an athlete wanting to be a fighter but so think about like the mentality of a guy who wanted to be a fighter pilot who played a different position wasn't a pitcher wasn't kind of cradle like you know because pitchers and quarterbacks right are kind of like yeah especially high end yeah yeah like the. Like the studs like that, for sure. So he's catcher, wants to be a fighter. Like the dude is the perfect person to seemingly go.

And Aaron Judge seemingly is the perfect guy for it as well. I think what we saw last night is the future of baseball is beautiful. Let alone you think about Shohei. Yeah. Oh, man. Shohei. Juan Soto is 25. Like he's a young guy.

Like it really is. And again, like it's cool because you see, like. Hey, how about baseball? I mean. What is this all about? That is one thing that I will say about the MLB. Like, if you're a fan. I mean, it doesn't mean anything.

Like, they used to try to do where the winner of this game would get home field advantage for the World Series. So, like, they played it like a normal game. And, like, if that was the case, like, who knows? Like, Skeens may have pitched three innings last night because you're legitimately trying to win because that's a major... The Pirates have a chance to be there.

It's a major advantage if you get the World Series. They always do the All-Star game right because it's the best players. Again, you can't get up there and you've got guys throwing 100 miles an hour. You can't just go up

and half-ass it. You can't 75% because now you're throwing BP and then this game's actually never ending. Then you look like an asshole because you give up three homers to three of the best hitters in baseball. Baseball, thank you for last night. Good work, baseball. That was fun. I'm not a big baseball guy. I was 100% tuned in because Paul Skeens is a Pittsburgh Pirate.

Without a doubt And Pittsburgh is all the way back behind baseball. Tone Diggs is one of the only humans I know that chose baseball over hockey in Pittsburgh during the duration of our lives because my entire life, the Pittsburgh Pirates have sucked and the Pittsburgh Penguins have been good. Tone always been Pirates guy, Pirates

guy, Pirates guy. Pittsburgh used to be a massive baseball city. Would be a good baseball city. Blue Collar Town has an incredible park park people have gone to games just because the park is nice never expected the pirates to actually be good but now they got a guy that they respect he's a fighter pilot this guy he's got a mustache he like q country roads is a hilarious move by him especially with pittsburgh west virginia shit but like that song being his song like pittsburgh people are like this is our guy and he has a little pizzazz he has enough humility and he's got the shit now the big question is well is there any chance he's not a yankee

someday because that's pittsburgh pirate baseball and it feels like the pittsburgh pirates fans think that this guy is going to be the one that's going to bring the pirates back to not being a minor league team for the good teams. And that's why I'm like paying attention to this. Shota, he pitched last night. I started seeing people I know. It's like a younger generation. It's like, hey, baseball might be...

Way to go, baseball. Way to go, baseball. And it's all because of Cody Johnson. People forget. Now, there are quarterbacks and teams. The Houston Texans are reporting to training camp today. Congrats, CJ! Big CJ big go get him check it in the dorm boys you get to remember you don't have to it seems very early quarterbacks reporting for the Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes said this to say yesterday about something he brought to training camp for the first time my

first year I'm bringing a TV well I haven't brought a TV ever before, but NCAA came out and I'm going to have to turn it on. I brought a TV for NCAA and the Olympics, so that's my first year I've been doing that. NCAA 2K25 College Football 2025. He's saying the same thing we're saying.

Shout out to you, Pat. I love what you're doing. First time bringing a TV obviously is insane to me because my room had a TV in it every single time. Now, that's strictly because I didn't have as much shit to do as everybody else. Certainly nowhere near as much shit to do as a quarterback. But literally every other position had about a thousand times the amount of work that I had. And I just try to bring good vibes. Great vibes. You always did. times the amount of work that I had and I just try to bring good vibes you always did they put me they put me right off the lobby so like when you come back into the dorm my room right off the lobby and it's like boys welcome back here tv on we got some brownies over here if we need it

got some music going over here not everybody was always thrilled you know there was some offensive linemen walk by told me shut the fuck up make sense hey bro hey you gotta be that's their game no problem hey michael gl Glenn walked by with an ass slap. He's miserable. And I see him the next morning. I say, yeah, boy, all good. We're here for another two weeks. Go get him.

Yeah, we're here for another two weeks. But him saying that he did it for NCAA and the Olympics is beautiful, which brings me to nine-year NFL vet, one of the biggest brains in football. D-Butt, seems like you're a little bit more rested than you were yesterday. How's our NCAA 2K College Football 2025 team doing? And were you up all night recruiting? I cannot believe that this is what you guys are choosing

to do after learning more and more about this game. There's a couple people in this building who have turned on this game because of the amount of recruiting and bullshit that you have to do to potentially get your... I'm just reporting what I'm hearing from you gamers in this thing. Bruce. Bruce isuce is over this whole thing how was your night last night how's the game and what do you think about patrick mahomes changing something up for the first you know first first night had to pull the all-nighter had to go all into the games you know see how many

different features different things uh last night didn't spend as much time and what i realized is it's gonna be a long season for these boys this year. This new playoff format, it's going to be a long road. I had a heartbreaking loss in my conference championship game. Ranked four. I won it in my week to Utah. Go Utes! Go Utes, baby! Go Utes! Second time seeing the Utes. Lost to them by a point.

Still made the playoff. Got another playoff game. So now on my road, I need to win four games if I want to get that natty. And that's tough at the end of the season. But once again, still a great game. So now my road, I need to win four games if I want to get that natty. And that's tough at the end of the season. But once again, still a great game. Played my first online game last night. 0-1. I got to figure out some ball security because that hit stick is

a weapon. I had nine turnovers. Nine? Nine turnovers? I almost quit. I almost pulled a broom. So what are you doing? So you got practice the next day? Like we're doing ball security the next day? Like are you old school? Are you Bear Bryant here now? And are you going to re-recruit? You going to kick some boys out, pull some scholarships?

Yeah. I'll tell you, it was a long one. So I just gave the boys the day off the next day. Oh, no. No accountability. Bad program. And we all got to watch this go away and get back. I also got a couple offers out there.

I got two OC offers and a head coach job offer at West Virginia and Pittsburgh. So both teams are trying to obviously pick up their offensive production. We hold on to the ball right now. Yeah, we don't. We got to figure out. What's the button? Is it R1? Yeah, R1.

And to punch it. And to punch it. We got to figure that out. For those who don't know, we're talking about NCAA 2K College Football 25. Hey, wait, real quick, but something in your world. And it's something we've been missing for, real quick. There's something in your world. Yeah. And there's something we've been missing for a long time. Those hash marks in college.

Wide. When you're kicking these field goals, you know, little chip shots inside the 10-12. Thank you. And you're on that right. Believe me, I've missed a couple, yeah. I've missed a couple big ones. Yeah, there's no room.

People talk about you missed a short one. It's like, well, in college, yeah, I'm hitting at a side of an angle. But harder, technically, to kick in college than in the NFL than the end oh yeah don't have a professional long snapper don't have a professional holder although mine were great and also the hash marks are very wide and it's like everything about it in college is much harder yeah than it is in the nfl but i like the fact that ncaa 2k college football 25 they said we're gonna make kicking hard because kicking isn't easy. Kicking is very difficult.

And now you've got, I think, a lot of people that are potentially losing games. I think you had to hit a massive one last night. You said you celebrated in the apartment. Oh, yeah, I stood up. I think I woke a couple people up. The Utes were down by one against the budget Colorado team, drove down the field, cam rising. I mean, the guy can spin the rock

And you know 42 yarder You talking about the pig farmer? Oh yeah I'm talking about the pig farmer I mean the guy just knows how to ball And granted Dutch Danger gave the team Quite the speech right before The boys went out So you're going to type up that speech or what?

I got a mic on my controller And I'm just yelling into it right before The team runs out So I'm kind of into it right before the team runs out. Hold on. So I'm kind of just telling them, like, hey, boys, we need this one here. Okay? We can't just go into Colorado rivalry. And are you looking around the locker room to see who's not bought in?

Because what if the boys aren't paying attention? Are they pouring their scholarships? It always starts with, eyes on me! Eyes on me! Just so they know, like, hey, we need to be looking so you can hear what I'm saying. Are you guys taking a knee or are they standing? Oh, no, no. They're all taking a knee because they need to, you know, really take it all in.

When are we praying? Are we praying? Oh, that's pregame. And sometimes halftime if we need it. Depending on how the first half goes. Like, to D-Butt's point, if my boys are running and they don't cover up the ball and I'm fumbling, yeah, halftime we're saying a prayer. And by the way, if you fumble, you better as well just pack your bags.

Enter the portal now. You drop the ball, you run a mile, Petey. Yeah, but the kick. How many feet are in a mile? 5,280 feet. And you're going to run every single one of them until you learn not to drop the football. But even the computer, like we're playing on Heisman,

and the computer is missing, and that never happens. They're missing kicks from the half mark. They're making it more realistic. Oh, it's so much more realistic. And by realistic, I mean it's not like you're actually kicking, but the difficulty is like a real thing. Because, I mean, it's just like, I don't know how. I get so nervous for every college kicker that comes out there

because I've obviously missed massive kicks, and I know exactly what happened immediately afterwards and what their life could be in that whole thing. But it's just all of it. Like, you're not a professional. Professionals miss. You're not a professional. And, like, are what you're working with good?

Like, snapper, holder, everybody just assumes just assumes good it's like if that ball is leaning just like that much that's a miss for a righty like that's a guaranteed miss and that's happening all over the place nobody knows about nobody cares either no nobody cares it's like make the kick yeah jaylen milroy just had to run 85 yards okay he's exhausted he got hit tackled 10 times you get to trot your little ass out there, make the kick. It's like, well, there's a lot that goes into this. And also, holy shit. I gotta...

So I like the fact that it's like your heart... Those crowds get loud. Yeah, because the screen is shaking. The kick that we just showed is in the game. But remember that, I think it was Evan McPherson. Florida against LSU or Tennessee, and he hit one like a buzzer beater. I'm thinking now the game but remember that i think it was evan mcpherson florida against uh what was lsu or tennessee and he hit one like a buzzer beater like i'm thinking now of college kicks that were

made in real life how hard am i holy shit how did these kids how do these kids do this it's impossible well i think about mcpherson though he kind of proved to be yeah yeah yeah he is you know and even gave him like the the fires the nod of approval even after his rookie year. Like, that guy's a Cold Stone killer, which is what you need to be. Sounds like NCAA's got that right. I bet you Patrick Mahomes is going to be very good at that game. And also, I like the fact that he said he got it for the Olympics. Any training camp we had where the Olympics was on, a nice little treat. That was a nice little treat.

Shark Week was in there every once in a while. Olympics would drop in there every once in a while. Reality show would drop a new season. We can kind of shit kind of watch binge this entire thing these types of things get people through training camp good luck to the reigning defending undisputed back-to-back champs will they be the first team to ever go three in a row probably i mean that's how it all works joining us now is a man who might be able to tell us a little bit more information not only about the chiefs not only about you know kicking but all of football this man's been a general manager. He's been a consultant. He's a multiple-time Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Paisan Michael Lombardi.

Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. It's good to have you back, Pat. Lombo, it's great to be back. It's great to be back. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you for joining us. These GMs play in NCAA 2K football to try to learn the ratings of all these guys so they don't have to watch as much film, you think, Lambeau? I would think that probably wouldn't be a smart thing to do. I mean, it's great to know their names, but I think

you're better off just watching the tape. You know, one thing about college football that I think you have to understand more than anything, to accurately grade players is the level of competition so you know if you're at if you're at ohio state i don't mean this in any disrespect to any other team you want to watch the player at ohio state play against somebody at alabama or someone at georgia because that's the pro level and it's hard to see that in in a game setting college

football is not about how many games you watch. I always crack up when we're around the draft and everybody says, I watched 77 tapes on this player. You're wasting your time. Like, you're wasting your time. Like, you've got to watch the right game. And the senior bowl is certainly important, but you've got to watch the level of competition

because sometimes you're watching a player going against a guy who's probably going to become a lawyer and not an NFL player or an insurance salesman or literally anything else no disrespect to that profession I'm just saying it just doesn't add up insurance actually you get paid forever it's just like actually it's pretty good business that's why guys get into it it's a good hustle because you're just kind of getting paid forever don't really have to do much and a lot of people don't even want to call you because your insurance so it's like a great business people get in no disrespect at all there but it's real there's only a certain amount of people that are gonna make the nfl it's a match-up film thing you're saying you're watching the

college that's why when bill belichick was on with the draft there was like certain plays he was like now this is a play we have to watch because defensive end is going against he's going to be probably top three round player next year so this is actually a good comparison here we got a chance to learn that during the draft let's talk now about the nfl in the state that we're in we just saw patrick mahomes checking in he's got uh his tv we got the texans reporting today and obviously this is when some you know starts to bubble up and we start to see some things that have taken place long but what are some stuff and some story lines that we should maybe be paying attention to that we're not paying attention to enough?

Well, I think this is when the rubber meets the road here, because I think there's been a lot of quiet conversations behind the scenes about guys who's watched the contracts explode. For example, you know, there's that trade rumor where an Aaron Rodgers walked off the golf course and he said, I'm looking forward to playing with Devontae Adams again. that created the stir which Devontae Adams agent quickly squashed but there is a conversation that needs to be had between Devontae and the Raiders because the wide receiver market has exploded and Devontae's sitting there saying what about me it's the same thing that I think Matthew Stafford says in their Los Angeles Rams look you know I've had a good year I mean your your guy put him in the top five players of the quarterbacks. That's certainly valuable. That wasn't our guy.

That was ESPN. That was executive. I heard it yesterday. I mean, poor Brock Purdy. The guy averages almost 10 yards a goddamn throw. He can't get any respect. I'm with you, Lumber. What does this guy have to do?

You're blowing my mind. We agree. We agree. We agree. We agree a thousand percent. It was actually a part of the conversation yesterday. Once you mention that name, you know I go off track. All right.

Let me focus. Let me construct. Hold on, though. That poll was ESPN asked executives, coaches, and- Right. Scouts. Scouts or something like that. I forget who else.

And they had Matthew Stafford at five overall, because I think you're bringing up a pretty good point here, because you're saying that there's a a chance and I don't know if it's true you seemingly know you definitely know every like you know a lot more humans than I do in the NFL world if Matthew Stafford is looking for more money over there in Los Angeles especially with the setup over there him being ranked top five quarterback so at this stage after winning a Super Bowl after already having a Hall of Fame career and if he's looking for money or a new contract, that is certainly something that's utilized in leverage and negotiation, Lambeau, behind the scenes. I think that's what happens once free agency is over.

There is always going to be an adjustment. And look, the Rams have a legitimate chance to become a deep playoff team. I know they don't have Aaron Donald, but they've improved their offensive line. But the key to their team is Matthew Stafford, right? They signed Garoppolo as a free agent. He's going to be suspended for two games. Stetson Bennett's not going to be able to fill in the void. And when they lost Matthew Stafford for two games last year, they weren't the same team. So I think the Rams are smart enough to know they're going to have to make some adjustment. Last year, they tried to move him because they were concerned about the elbow. Was he going to be able to stay healthy?

He was for most of the season. But this is a really good player. But I think the market has changed so much, the landscape. We're still waiting for Tuas Steele. I think this is what the first week of training camp is all about, is some of the players who have been waiting to hear their name called to redo their deals are kind of waiting for those phone calls to come in, starting with, I think, Devontae Adams.

I think Matthew Stafford's another player that needs to get addressed. We know Tyreek Hill and, of course, Brandon Ayuk, who keeps saying he wants to be traded. But, you know, this is the problem with that statement, Pat. We're not the NBA. The NFL is not the NBA. You can't be James Harden in the NFL. You can't say, I demand a trade, and then Daryl Morey will trade you. Like, you can say all the demands you want, but the 49ers aren't trading Brandon Ayuk.

Okay, so D-Butt's going to ask you a question about this, I assume, here in a matter of moments. But there was a scene in Hard Knocks there where the Giants— Don't give me a full Hard Knocks answer because I'm excited for the way D-Butt asked you the question because we have been very fascinated by this. And we are very excited for you to kind of give your input on it all. But there was a scene where basically GM says, do we want to go through all the bullshit again with the Saquon Barkley, the public stuff, which leave that exact situation alone. Let's talk about just NFL league wide. situation alone let's talk about just nfl league wide whenever there is public bullshit and drama humans in the front office in gm that weighs on them or are the places that are good they just

yeah well this is a part of the job like because it feels like john lynch and also obviously with bill belichick up there at the patriots you were there but lynch has dealt with like this type of drama and bullshit numerous times before they had jimmy g practicing on another field in training camp another they said his era was over yep he's on another field he doesn't get hurt and we're just trying to trade him and then he ends up coming back it's like they deal with the drama in the public they're not worried about this getting too ugly or too dramatic or too much of a spectacle with iuke they seemingly sat in why do some teams do that and then it does seem like some situations from what we're learning it's like they don't want to deal with all the drama shit and the public shit.

It's called alignment, right? When you're aligned as an organization, then there's nothing from the outside can really affect you because they can't get to your owner. They can't get to your vice president or president. Everything is kind of aligned. Everybody understands what we're doing. It's not on the same page.

Everybody's on the same page. Today in 32 cities, everybody's on the same page, but not all the teams are aligned. Alignment recreates the belief that the noise on the outside will never affect us. This is what we're doing. This is how we have to approach it. This is what we believe in. And I think the 49ers are perfectly aligned to handle that situation. Look, the Cincinnati Bengals, you don't think they have great alignment? Mike Brown, the president owner of the team, he says he's not trading T. Higgins. You could take it to the bank. He said he wasn't trading Jesse Bates. You could take it to the bank. They're completely aligned. And it doesn't matter what the Cincinnati Inquirer writes or what the Post writes or what, you know, any of the insiders talk about. You ain't changing

what Mike Brown does because Mike Brown's aligned in what he wants to do. And those Niners have seemingly been that same exact way this entire time. And we're not saying it doesn't suck for Iyuk. Like, we love, I would love Iyuk on the Indianapolis Colts. I would absolutely love Iyuk on the Colts. But it's just like the reality of the situation, shout out to Ryan McGee, is like in the NFL, especially in this particular case, the Niners hold the cards for the reality of the situation shout out to ryan mcgee is like in the nfl

especially in this particular case the niners hold the cards for the next three years if they want to franchise tag them twice and it's like that sucks but that's what happens with a lot of great teams is like there becomes too much too little to be able to give and then who gets sorted and who's kind of the odd person out feels like iuk is that and we don't love it but it is just this is what this is niners football and this is kind of how odd person out. It feels like IUK is that, and we don't love it, but it is just, this is Niners football, and this is kind of how it's been. But this is what was collectively bargained. This is what was, and so those tools and that apparatus

that has been given to the agreement between the players and the owners and the management level is given them the ability to have three more seasons with them. Now, look, here's the real rub. They don't want to trade IUKuk and they want to pay Iyuk. The difference here is simply this. He has a certain level of value and they have a certain level of what they perceive as value. It's called a negotiation, right? And so that's really the rub. It isn't because we don't want you or they don't want them. And all this nonsense about trade talk, the one thing that iuk gives the 49ers that they really don't have is as talented as a team as they are is they

have an outside receiver who can win one-on-one and darius can speak to this as well as anybody the definition of a great receiver in the league is to be able to win one-on-one on third down to defeat the corner you're against and that's the one thing last year Iuke was able to do, and that's why he averaged 17 yards a catch. Hold on. I got a Hembo stat here. Shout out to Hembo, by the way. 81% of Brandon Iuke's catches last season resulted in a first down or a touchdown.

Okay, that's 61 of 75. That percentage obviously led the NFL. So Iuke knows that. Iuke knows that. He understands it. He that yeah iuk knows that he understands that he's seeing other wide receivers that he probably thinks like is this person as important and they're getting and i'm just sitting here for what and that's why he's angry and you saying like hey the niners want to pay them they don't want to trade them the issue is the value here it's like well yeah that's always right in that kind of i mean anybody would take a deal that any team would

take a deal that's one1 million for Russell Wilson. I mean, isn't that kind of the whole argument in this entire thing? And then the receiver market is kind of upside down because so many guys have gotten paid so much money that it's a hard market to really understand and how to define what is a number one receiver. But the one thing Brendan Ayoub does, if I'm his agent, I'm saying, look, I am the one receiver on this 49 thing Brendan Ayoub does if I'm his agent I'm saying look I am

the one receiver on this 49er team that can win on the outside we have a lot of great players but we control the ball in the middle of field it's one of the reasons why Brock Purdy almost averaged 10 yards per attempt we have great receivers with the once they catch the ball yards after the catch but Ayoub is the one guy who can make a play on his own down the field and I think we see it in all these things and the more I watch these reels of iuk i still can't understand how brock purdy isn't in the top 10 quarters because some of those throws are just incredible we're all i mean we just ignore them we ignore it but you're right it is it is phenomenal it is phenomenal the way they are able to avoid complimenting his greatness legitimately and then you know it's

unbelievable it's not just one person like it's an agenda that they don't want to give this poor kid any any credibility i mean i look i watch quarterback play every day i mean it's unbelievable this kid is really talented and the throws he makes the way he works the pocket no that that was a check down that was a a, Kyle Shanahan drew that up for him to check that down. Is that even an important? That's a layout. That's a layout.

Jimmy could have made it. Troy could have made it. Mack Jones could have done that for sure. That's literally how a lot of people, not everybody, but we're talking about

a majority of people seemingly because he was drafted Mr. Irrelevant, the last pick of the draft. People can't get by the fact that maybe everybody was wrong on the scouting process of this particular guy. And what they couldn't judge was what's in between those ears, the moxie, and then the absolute cannon.

The guy has a cannon. He spins it, puts it on the spot. Now, is that a good situation? Absolutely. And because it's such a good situation, that's why they have the IUK situation. But it's not just the IUK situation. Every year there's going to be something like this for the Niners. It just happens to the great teams.

And teams have to see different chapters and different evolutions of it. That's what great teams have to go through. It's a part of the problem of being great. And, like, maybe they're just going to check out and see if Riley's good this upcoming year, let IUK go to free agency, maybe they see what it is. But the see if Riley's good this upcoming year. Let IU go to free agency. Maybe they see what it is. But the Niners hold all the cards. I think we all understand that.

IU, good luck, though. We would like you to get paid. Now, let's talk about a little bit of a different situation that we're all getting to see for the first time. Go ahead, D-Bud. Speaking of seeing it for the first time, obviously we had hard knocks, you know, during the season, training camp. But now we're actually seeing behind the scenes, you know, kind of what you've been doing for a long, long time in the front offices. College scouts talking, pro scouts talking. What's your take on this hard knock so far? Because, you know, I definitely have some opinion, but I want to hear your opinion on how Joe and that staff is handling, has been handling, and the access.

How do you think these GMs going forward are going to feel about hard knocks having this access? I mean, I can't believe the access that we've gotten. I think it's a tremendous show, but I can't believe that the access the Giants have allowed inside their building. For me, it's a little bit of a difficult thing to watch in the sense that the Giants are one of the most historic franchises that I've learned a lot from because of my relationship with Belichick, my relationship with Bill Parcells

and studying the National Football League. When I first started in 1984, the 49ers and the Giants had some similarities in terms of grading systems and all that. What I find missing in terms of what I watch this show is there's no identity for the Giants. There's no systematic, this is who we are. And that started in 1979 when the great George. There's no systematic, this is who we are. And that started in 1979 when the great George Young came in and said, basically, we are going to create a system of scouting that is going to put a team on the field that has great size and speed. I watch this show and I see a team that is basically every player is evaluated individually. So they're adding talent, not building a team. That's my one concern. The second concern I have, I watched last night's show. Look, to me, you know, the offseason is about you sit in a room as a general manager during the season and you have three things that you're working on. You're working on your team and you have to put together a list. Here's what we must have in order to have a competitive team next year. And those three things, four

things are in one column. This is what we need to have a better team next year. That's column two. And this is what we want to have as a better team. That came from Bill Parcells. That didn't come from Michael Lombardi. That came from Bill Parcells. He was the one that echoed that. And you work off of that list. And when you enter into free agency, you're entering in based on how you've set up your team needs. What do we want to do? How do we improve it. And when you enter into free agency, you're entering in based on how you've set up your team needs. What do we want to do? How do we improve it? And then you figure out what player you can get that can adhere to those things. And so when I watch it, everything comes down to we can get this guy. Okay, well, maybe we get that guy. And then everybody has a different

opinion. You know, the one thing the great Charlie Munger once said, he said, if you want to make a bad decision, ask a lot of people. And that's what I watch when I see that. Yeah, so that's what I was going to ask. To Deebutt's point, we've never seen this shit before. And you're talking about the amount of access. I don't think any of us expected this much intel from an off-season strategy and everything they got going on in the GM's office with his staff. Chief this, chief that, high end this.

And it's like they're brainstorming seemingly. So I think we're hearing like a lot of ideas and opinions and everything like that. Does that happen on a right? Like, I don't know what. No. Because I watched it. No, I want somebody to walk in. I want somebody to walk in. Hey, this is who we are.

This is what we're going to do. This is how we're going to do it. We're going to listen. We're going to spend time in meetings. But this is what we're doing. This is the plan. And this is how we're going to do this is how we're going to do it we're going to listen we're going to spend time in meetings but this is what we're doing this is the plan and this is how we're going to execute look this whole notion i mean i almost threw up when he said that you know we're paying 40 million to to daniel jones we can't pay charlotte barkley i mean wait a minute wait a minute lamar jackson's making 50 some million they paid derrick henry saquon barkley got the same deal oh

what are they paying jalen hurts like that's the most ridiculous thing i ever heard in my life like are you kidding me you need you need saquon barkley because you have daniel jones because you can't put the game in his hands you've got to build a team around them and so to me like some of this access that we're getting what what what i see in this is i see a manager i see managers do things right leaders do the right thing i don't see a plan i don't see something that is okay this is the new york giants football team like all of a sudden this year they've changed their tune last year they had to have barkley and they had to have jones this year they don't want that you can't change change that. Philosophically, that doesn't work.

You can't build teams like that. Look, they got Brian Burns. That's good. Did they improve their offensive line? We shall see. They had Illuminor as their number one offensive lineman. The Raiders last year thought he was an average right tackle. Now they're going to play him a guard, which he's not very good.

We'll see how this all works out. But I have an issue when there's not, you know, you need a leader. You need somebody to come in there and say, this is who the New York Giants are and this is what we're going to become. And that's why they've had a 36% winning percentage overload since they went to the last playoff, since Tom Coughlin left. How many years are you in the NFL? 35. Okay. So this is coming from Michael Lombardi, who is 35 years

in these meetings that I am seeing for the first time. So the enchant multiple time and a part of some of the greatest legs, like multiple times, like just a wild amount of football info in that Italian brain right there. Those Italian eyes right there have seen a lot of football and a lot of ball. And those ears have been in a lot of rooms with people talking ball and i'm out and when i'm watching this for the first time because i've never been in any of those meetings before i've always thought about how they probably go i've never been in there literally first episode i i watch it and i'm thinking to myself is this how it always goes makes sense if they're like hey no opinions a bad opinion and like this type of thing

and then i start thinking myself like i don't know who any of, like, I don't know who any of these people are, but do I know who any of these people are? Are these the smartest football people? Then I hear what they're saying and I'm like, that just sounds like an internet person talking, not like an actual football. And it's like, so I look on the internet and I'm like, what are the Giants fans' reaction to hard knocks? You know, because I'm not as invested in the situation as they would be. And it was like, Giants fans were like, yeah.

So I'm like, all right. So I guess I'm just kind of misreading this entire thing. And then every episode that comes out again, I'm watching. I'm like, man, I did not think this is how it went. But if they end up winning, right? There's always multiple ways to do it. If they end up winning, there's always ways to do it. But me listening to those conversations, I'm like, man,

no football person that I've ever, I mean, maybe some of it. But there's some ideas getting tossed out there that don't feel like, and if like, this is the highest level here. Well, let's just start with this. You have to know who your competition is. This whole idea that they had no idea that the Eagles were interested in Barkley. Oh, here's the clip. Here's the clip. Okay.

So when they're trying to find out with who is in the Saquon market, shout out to the money team, Ed Berry, doing the negotiating, by the way. He is a handsome, he's got a southern accent. I mean, we're talking, he is a good dude. We love Ed Berry. He's a massive piece of this entire show. But as the negotiation is taking a turn and Saquon Barkley is going, probably Mara now is in Shane's office with all of Shane's chief of staff. And they're trying to have a little convo about what's the future going to look like.

What's the latest? Just on the Saquon thing. I just got a text that Chicago is driving the price up and Philly's out. I don't know if that's true or not. Philly's out, yeah. I'll make a couple calls. I don't even know if that's going to happen. I'm going to have a tough time sleeping if a sink one goes to Philadelphia. I'll tell you that. As I've told you.

I haven't been around enough players. But he's the most popular player we have by far. That's the under saying. A lot of jerseys going. This is boss. Look, I think John Mara speaks. You know, John Mara is a really wonderful human being, and he's a very nice man.

And I think what he was trying to get across there was he wanted to get it done. Joe Shane's very fortunate Al Davis wasn't in that room because it would have been ugly. It would have been very, very hard for him. He would have gotten a ton of clashing. Look, the reality here is there's no identity of the team. That's the biggest issue. And so they talk about the quarterback and they could trade up of what they're going to do. But what they're doing is collecting talent. And if you want to win a Super Bowl, if you want to get outside of that 36% win percentages, which they've had since Tom Coughlin left,

you've got to build a structure. And they did it. They started it in 79. That's where I learned football from was watching them and how they built their franchise through their grading system and how they were able to build a team, not collect talent. And I think that's the issue. And losing Barkley, I know, look, Shane believes that at 27,

running backs are going to be downclimbed. I think there was no doubt when I watched this show, Joe didn't want to sign Barkley. I think you could just see by his body language, he didn't think it was a worthwhile investment. I think he truly wanted to sign Singletary, who's the same age, but at a much cheaper price. And I think that's what he ended up getting.

And I think he kind of manipulated it around to where it became too expensive. But I think it puts a lot of pressure on the quarterback because the quarterback's going to have to have people in the backfield. Look, we all talk about these great receivers. The running back makes the spread. The running back's the point guard. And when you have a back like Barkley, who you've got to defend on the down, it makes it more challenging. Yeah, a lot harder to throw against a light box.

If you don't have to bring an extra person down in the box to stop that running back, and there's no fear of that, all of a sudden you've got a little different coverages that you're staring at and that guys can work with. And these defense coordinators who are brilliant can then cook up a little bit more. We all of a sudden got an extra guy now that we can cook up a little pressure you you got to be worried about who's guarding saquon too in the passing game you know what i mean so that's that's a whole yeah that's a whole another he runs you know gets in a wheel or has an angle route like that red area like he's 26 is always a game wrecker you know he's a game wrecker yeah he's

27 he's had some injuries but to your point if i if look watching it's like yeah you're paying a quarterback 40 million now if you're joe you're you you're basically betting this all your job on daniel jones yeah and there was obviously a lot of issues with this giants team in recent history and that's why shane was you know broad joe shane was brought in they're going into the third year first year and if you talk to giants fans which we happen to have one in the office he's like yeah you paid Daniel Jones we move forward like they are I want to let you know how Giants fans are at least the one that we're talking to not all of them our Giants fan though is like yeah this it's

a we have sucked 36 percent since leaving Coughlin and I think you think it's potentially because ownership has maybe done too much right Bruce in that kind of convo around yeah that's kind of the the popular thought is that John Maher kind of gets involved in the football operations a little more than, you know, maybe we would want him to. But I do kind of disagree where, like, the needs were the offensive line. Like, we had to fortify it. Runyon, you know, Illuminera, you know, we'll see how they do and how that goes. But I think the identity is going to be rushing four, having a strong pass rush with K on and and burns and you know hopefully running the ball a bit with singletary and it

it will be you know daniel jones taking us as far as you know he can go they lose darren waller as well you know they lose darren waller thank you you guys take that somebody takes that he wasn't even believing what he was saying i mean like seriously You just hear yourself, tape that. Somebody tape that. Yeah, we did. And he started fading off at the end, too. Yeah, he wasn't even believing what he was saying. I mean, like, seriously, look. Look, it's one thing. They didn't draft anybody in the offensive line. And they put it as a priority.

I mean, look, what you're saying right there is Evan Neal is going to be your starting right tackle. I'm not sure Daniel Jones would approve of that, the way he's played the last couple seasons. But we'll see how it goes. Everybody's going to have an opportunity. It's hard to be able to be a great defense if you're always playing from behind. I mean, that's what makes Pittsburgh so unique defensively, is because under what they were able to do in the past, they never played from in front. Whereas Baltimore, you know, they're able to play from in front.

Baltimore's got 142 point differential at halftime, and so now you can rush the passer. Now you don't have to worry about defending it, but when you're playing from behind all the time, like the Giants are going to do, and you're putting the pressure on Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones on third down, just watch the third down tape. When the game speeds up, it becomes harder for him to execute. That's the issue. He's a wonderful athlete and he has to run with the football and when he runs with the ball he's dangerous but he can't stay healthy run see it's a double-edged sword here wink too not there yeah no more way

he's at michigan yeah wink martin yeah i know one of the greatest defense coordinators in the history of the nfl is now at the michigan wolverines yeah Wolverines. We'll get back to the NFL here in a matter of moments because Ty has a question about good Hawkeye. Sherone Moore, offensive line guy, not scared to do this. Then you got Wink on the defensive side. Nobody thinks or expects anything out of Michigan this year. I don't think. Georgia, Ohio State, and then Texas is being talked about in this entire thing oregon just got a blank check yeah from night uh that just i think that happened in the last couple days the landing or whatever but nobody's expecting anything out of michigan because harbaugh's gone

jj's gone uh blake coram's like so many gone gone gone and then like wink martindale is their d coordinator that is a that was i i saw that i saw a picture last week while I was on break. And I was starting to catch up on stuff. And I saw Wink's face and I'm like, I completely forgot that Wink Martindale is going against college offense coordinators now. Not that that's a different thing,

but it's like... Oh, it's a different thing. It's a different thing. I mean, first of all, he's going to attack... First of all, one thing we know from college to pro, the protection schemes in college are very simplistic. And the pros are much more complex. That's the hardest thing for young quarterbacks to understand is the protection, how to get protected, how to do all that.

Wink will take advantage of that. And Wink has been very good at being able to attack the passer with overload pressure, not necessarily zero blitz pressure. Yeah, but with the Giants, you lose D.C., you lose Saquon, you got a $40 million quarterback, you're on hard knocks for the first time ever with everybody hearing everything you're saying about everything you've got going. That's just a nightmare.

But good luck. We're pulling for it. I love Dayball, too. He cracks me up. Great TV. Great TV. I love Dayball, too. He cracks me up. Great TV. Great TV. I like Dayball, too. I love Dayball.

Dayball babyface. He's not going to run a 7-flat 40, whether a chicken wings at the end of the line or not. He ain't running a 7-flat 40. But I like him. I mean, he's a great guy. But look, we're talking business here. We're not talking personal. And I think, to me, is have they closed the gap on Philly?

No. I think Philly's a dangerous team with Barkley in the backfield, A.J. Brown, you know, Smith. I mean, they're as talented as any team in the league, offensive line and skill. I think it's hard. And, look, the Giants have struggled to beat Dallas, and they've struggled to beat Philadelphia over the time. They are the only team in the last 10 years that have not won the NFC,

and we've seen a revolving door on the NFC every year. Sirianni with Saquon. They got Fangio now on defense. He might run for 250 against Giants that first game. The revenge game, the first one, is always big. Andre Johnson had four

catches for the Indianapolis Colts, maybe the first eight weeks of our season. We played the Houston Texans. He went for 175, had two touchdowns, and then just kind of walked out. It was like that is just how it normally goes. That's a team effort. Coaches, everybody knows, all right, you're going to be out there for the coin toss. Everybody knows what's at stake.

I thought watching, I think it was two episodes ago when shane said to the agent who you mentioned when he said to the agent that you know and this is my observation this isn't like i have information but one of the jobs as a negotiator talking to the agent is you're playing you're playing poker you are really like rounders you got to figure out if the pot what hand he has and there's telltales in the hand, right? And so I think to me, when I was listening to that conversation where Shane was trying to make sure that the agent would guarantee him a chance to match the deal, I could sense from that conversation, from listening to the agent's voice, that he had a deal. He knew he had a deal. He knew he had a deal that was out there. And if I were Shane at that moment, I would have gone back to John Mayer and say, look, I think the guy's got a deal somewhere out there. And they had an opportunity. They could have,

at that point, they could have still franchised him if they wanted to. But I think at the end of the day, they wanted to get away from the responsibility of paying or running back all that. Okay, so Ed Berry, gotta tell. Sounds like you gotta tell Yeah, he looking to cook it

You could tell he was looking to cook it I can't wait to hear what Ed has to say Ed's gonna have such a cool look Whenever he calls You tell him I wanted him to know that I had to He sprayed the pot, Ed sprayed the pot He sprayed the pot

Okay, so last question here from us and uh obviously you're somebody that we know is in the know we've heard some rumblings about a potential situation that hasn't really been talked about it's about a hawkeye good time yeah lambo uh rumor has it that the tamp the the bucks and tristan worse like i don't know if there's like some strife but he's looking for a new contract he obviously moved to left tackle last year and i don't know if it's rumors or if it's actually been reported but they're offering him a new contract. He obviously moved to left tackle last year. I don't know if it's rumors or if it's actually been reported, but they're offering him a new contract, but it's right tackle

money. How does that work? Is that the kind of thing that can get cleared up easily? It was either a guarantee situation or it was like... We've heard rumblings from multiple people now about this situation.

And it's like, we're trying to piece it together because it's not a lot. And like, Worf's good. Yeah, all pro. And we haven't really heard much other than he didn't go and then he went to minicamp. He was there, but he didn't participate. It's like, is that something? And that feels like a big deal. He's like top three, top four tackle in the NFL.

He's got a good deal. Yeah. They're going to have to. This is what's going gonna happen now in the coming weeks as we get ready to camp and thank we're back right football's back can't wait to see it but some of these players like worth they're going to want to get the money i mean we saw seoul get his deal done right and so that deal comes through and this kid's going to play left tackle and i i think jason light's smart enough to know that we're going to have to handle him because this is a player you want to build your team around. This isn't

somebody that, oh, no, we don't want him. He's young. He's very athletic. He can play left tackle. Like, you're just going to have to pay him. And you're either going to do it now or you're going to do it later. And you might as well get it over with right now, especially if you can get some cap room out of doing his deal. So for me, I think that would be a smart play. I never have problems. We say right and left tackle. Well, I mean, here's the problem with that language is they always put their best rusher over on your worst tackle, whether he's on the right or left side. So it used to be in the day where everybody lined up where they were and nobody moved around. But no, no, no, no. Oh, oh here comes mr bosa over here to watch you now we got a handle on it right tackle if you don't have two good tackles you can't function in the

league because they're going to put their worst guy over you i think they're going to pay they have to pay worse like you have to pay certain guys they're not replaceable parts right i hate to sound you know not not very clinical but there's certain guys you can't replace left tackle is hard to replace. All right, so we'll try to get some clarity on that as well. I think it was a guarantee thing. They made an offer. It was a guarantee thing.

It wasn't really anywhere near. Total. They'll pay him. They're going to end up paying him. I mean, he's going to end up getting his look. That's what's going to happen in the coming weeks. Guys are going to get what they're apt to get. They may not get what they want today, but eventually they are.

Well, he's awesome. Man, he jumps out of pools. Oh, yeah. Freakously. He jumps out of pools. Oh, yeah. Freakously. Jumps out of pools. And then also since rookie year. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Paisan,

we appreciate all your big brain knowledge. Thank you, Pat. Michael and Bo. Thanks, guys. Yeah, Bo. He works at V-CIN. He has a daily podcast, a daily newsletter. He's a TED Talker.

I guess he's speaking yesterday. Oh, yeah. He's out of Shreveport, Louisiana. Great place. I love Longbow, man. He's the best. He's a TED talker. I guess he's speaking yesterday. Oh, yeah. He's out of Shreveport, Louisiana. Great place. I love Lombard, man. He's the best. He's been really good to us. Yeah, and the knowledge, like you mentioned,

he's going back to 1979. That's how long this guy's been in the NFL. Not always right. Of course. Now, granted, he's going to have a take on everything. He's certainly been there. He's certainly got some wrong, and people dangle that over his head. But just listen to him give every –

it's like here's a situation that was exactly like that that happened like 20 years ago this is how it ended up getting worked out it's like he somehow so quick yeah like he is on i i really enjoy talking to that dude i think a lot of people like since it's he's so far removed from it now like they think he's just like a pundit because he's got a podcast and everything it's like this guy was a general manager in the nfl Yeah, and then he was special assistant. Right. And he said, too, like, I'm watching these guys every day. He mentioned that in there.

Like, if you're watching 79 games of one player, we're watching the wrong stuff. I'm watching these quarterbacks every single day. Yeah, he's – and he can't stop. No. He's addicted to it. Kids play Aaron football. Yeah, he's a lifer. Yeah, he's just all day.

You call him and he'll answer uh facetime and then he was just watching film on something it's like what's your problem yeah yeah you have grandkids you know july 4th he said well the grandkids actually aren't here for like two days or so so i'm just kind of watching some film i appreciate him a lot of those situations are starting to bubble in in training camp is when it all starts you know because there's hold in hold out new deals done that iuk thing doesn't sound promising for Iuke. It might be. I don't know.

I'm just saying at this exact time, it doesn't sound like. Because Schefter putting that tweet out immediately upon us and everybody having a conversation. Like, Iuke's made it official. He wants to trade. And then Schefter just drops in just quicker. They are not trading him. It's almost like he was directly texting and saying,

here, there's a little chatter going on. Just if you could remind them that we are not trading Brandon Ayuk. And that is just the reality of the situation. But people have said that before, and then trades end up taking place. Who knows? And then yesterday they put Ricky Pearsall on the non-football injury list as well. I don't know how long he's going to be out. I don't know what happened or anything.

Hey, Mike just had to poop. Yeah, could have. Could have. But if there's anything there, it's like, hey, guess what don't know what happened or anything. Hey, Mike just had to poop. Yeah, could have. Could have, sure. But if there's anything there, it's like, hey, guess what? You're playing, and you're going to play next year, and you're going to play the year after that. Well, I don't see... I think they're going to check

and see this, Ricky. They're going to see, can this guy be a guy? And we get a rookie wide receiver price, and if he can, sweet. You can go be a free agent somewhere, because we're not going to be able to pay you. We're not going to franchise tag either, because that's another $17 million or whatever, or $19 million or whatever it is. And it's like, if we're not going to be able to pay you. I'm not going to franchise tag you either because that's another $17 million or whatever, $19 million or whatever it is. And it's like, if he's not going to be able to be a guy,

like one of these rookie wide receivers that have come in and been a guy, it's like, okay, then we have to do a deal with IUK. I feel like that is potentially an outcome in how they're viewing it. But behind the scenes, you have no idea. That's what I'm learning from Hard Knocks. I'm watching conversations.

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Details at Fizz.ca. Can't thank you enough for joining us on this glorious Wednesday, our first week back from a two-week hiatus, and we've certainly had a lot of chatter with a lot of different people. Yesterday, we chatted with Rich Paul, who literally told a story about everything happening in the NBA

and in Team USA basketball. And one of the answers he gave about Maxie, which was an off answer, he just kind of went off on a thing, I believe he mistold an exact situation with Maxie about scoring. And then whenever we tweeted out the video, we missed one word in his quote as well. So it became a massive blah, blah, blah. I would like to let Rich Paul know,

we apologize for that mess up. You're allowed to mess up one particular situation whenever you're a part of a million different deals. But the conversations we've had this week have been sweet. This has been a lot of fun to come back. We got Matt Ishbia joining us in about 28 minutes or so. He's the owner of the Sons of the Mercury

and also United Wholesale Mortgage, which is where he got all his money. Former Michigan State Spartan National Champion, now a man who's hosting the WNBA All-Star game this week. Team USA versus the WNBA All-Stars happening on Saturday in Phoenix. Ishbia's coming on to ch All-Stars happening on Saturday in Phoenix.

Let's go. Ishby is coming on to chit-chat about that. He's excited. We got a lot. Yeah, absolute. Beautiful place. Saw that gorilla. Remember how high I was?

Yeah, it was a good time. Gorilla came in. They posted a photo of me with my eyes closed looking incredible. Thank you for the love. The Suns are good people. They've taken care of us. The Suns, though, are in an interesting spot. We'll certainly ask about that.

We'll ask about his thoughts on Team USA and basketball as a whole. And then we're going to chit-chat about them hosting the WNBA All-Star game this week. And Thursday, WNBA players and coaches will arrive. All-Star orange carpet fan event on Thursday night out there in Phoenix.

Good idea to keep that orange in Phoenix, Arizona because it's probably 1,000 degrees. Oh, yeah. Friday, WNBA Live, Community Clinic, Kia Skills Challenge, Starry Three-Point Challenge. And then Saturday, we will have the All-Star Game, where Team USA will take on the WNBA All-Stars. Now, Kaitlin Clark, obviously, Angel Reese will be on the WNBA All-Stars. That's right.

Love it. Taking on Team USA. There was a lot of chatter about Team USA, who was on, who was off. So this game actually has some juice. This game actually has some real possibility to be awesome. Going to see some bows. For sure. Going to see some logo shots.

Going to see Kaitlin to Angel Reese. Hopefully. First time ever. Because Kaitlin actually came out and said, I've never been on the same team as Angel Reese, even with the team usa stuff so it's a big weekend we can't wait to chat with matt ishbia who is a billionaire so i'm sure there'll be some good questions and conversations added alongside just basketball talk talk stables here at boston connor at ty schmidt just thinking of the winner just long sleeve you know after yesterday i couldn't do it with

my nipples i swear to god i got home and they were still hard. It was almost a nightmare. I thought I had to call my doctor, like the four-hour rule. I did see that the entire Thunderdome was set to 64 degrees. It was a bit chill. Which is fine. I mean, that's fine. I sleep at 64.

So that's my office. My office is 64 degrees. And I think I was asked that, you know, by Tim McAfee, as the ACs were all getting checked and re-everything. And what temperature would you like? I said 64. I thought we were having a conversation, you know, about my office, which shares his AC. So my dad's office and my office share the same air conditioning unit.

And there for a bit, Tim thought that his opinion on the temperature did matter in my office share the same air conditioning unit. And there for a bit, Tim thought that his opinion on the temperature did matter in my office. And it certainly did not. I like this thing. I can't do anything above 67 or I start sweating and it's a whole situation. So I told him 64. Put the whole Thunderdome at 64, I think, to prove a point. These ACs work.

They do. They're back. They're back. Good dude. Which is good. I'm proud of them. I'm proud of these air conditioners. Because Monday with the fans, I mean, although it was nice to have them in here, of course,

we've been waiting for that for a long time. It was one of those situations where when you get back Tuesday, it's like you wanted it so bad that you go over the top. There's nothing wrong with that. It's like when you don't have ice cream for a while, you eat a whole pint, and then you get a little sick. Yeah, we adjusted just too much. Yeah, exactly.

We did the full, we came all the way back. But I appreciate you boys battling through the cold. We got hoodies all over the place. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Always good. D-Butts, you would wear a hoodie in 80-degree weather because you're from South Florida, obviously. Yep.

That's the way it goes. Not a bad little summer here. We've got a lot of shit to talk about. Olympics start next Friday. Punk. You know that. Of course I know that. I'm the way it goes. Not a bad little summer here. We've had a lot of shit to talk about. Olympics start next Friday. Of course I know that. I'm excited about it. Patrick Mahomes said he's bringing in TV for video games and for Olympics. If you had to just project what sport

you're looking forward to watching the most in the Olympics, what would it be? Basketball, for sure. Absolutely. Always. Basketball and the sprints. 100 meter, 200, the relays. So if we start rolling through this though now that we've uh you know met some more folks in different worlds basketball is going to be awesome that team looks sweet they're starting to come together too there's a video of uh obviously lebron telling kevin durant hey go pull one up pull one up and kevin right turn around splashing

it then i'm doing a thing getting out there kind of coming together walking on to a practice court they all walked in there they look like like a team like they look like a team that gets along and he's gelling well and if you go with what rich paul told us yesterday it's like yeah it takes them a little bit of time to gel they're all kind of seemingly figuring out the pecking order that's what it looks like for sure whenever you're running around a bunch of people that are very successful you have to kind of figure it's all about who you're with aj hawk says this all the time he'll be joining us in a matter of moments he's like people think that i have money because he's old cba top five pick and he does and he does have a lot of money but you you can put him in some rooms and he's got no money because of where everybody else that's like these team usa things

it's like yeah i'm good at basketball i'm at basketball. But then you get around all of the fish in all the ponds. And it's like figuring out who is where, finding your role, finding your spot, putting the ego down too. A lot of people have to do that. Seems like they've done that with what we've seen. I'm pumped for our basketball team to steamroll in this Olympics. Absolutely. I think it's easier when, like, that top guy is a leader,

like LeBron or when it was Kobe or or whoever that is vocal yeah they're vocal you know okay this is this is the big dog here and you got you know steph curry he's been carrying the league as well right up there uh with lebron so i am interested to see him continue to gel and you mentioned you know you gotta you know find your spots anthony davis may be coming off the bench and be anthony edwards who knows who'll be coming off the bench you and B, Anthony Edwards, who knows who will be coming off the bench. You know, when you're coming in and playing 10, 12 minutes, you know, these absolute superstars are going to give it their all. So I'm excited to watch us, you know, get that gold medal once again. Yeah, and to your point about figuring out when Lombo was on the ticker,

Team USA versus Serbia kind of scrolled by. It was 34-30 Serbia. 59-45 halftime. Yeah, they have figured it out for sure. And, like, to D-Butt's point, it is kind of sweet. There is that old guard of Steph, LeBron, KD in them. And then there's Ant, Tyrese,

Tatum. It is kind of two ends of the spectrum of the very, very old heads that have been great forever and the new generation coming in. I assume the secrets being shared in there are awesome as well. Yeah, that was the whole Kaitlin Clark conversation. It's like, hey,

this is also handing this is the game. And then we were told by the women's basketball, that's not how this goes actually. It's like, well, she's about to have her triple-duck. Not getting into it. Not getting into it. We will talk to Matt Ishbia about the All-Star game in 22 minutes. Joining us right now is a man who's been in every All-Star game.

Hell yeah. You name the sport, he's been an All-Star of it. minutes. Joining us right now is a man who's been in every All-Star game. Hell yeah. You name the sport, he's been an All-Star of it. He's grown a mustache and a beard. Ladies and gentlemen, a former president of the state of Ohio, A.J. Hawk. Hawker! Hawker, how you doing, pal? Great. How's that? Is Bruce doing alright after Lambeau just shattered his whole

dreams, you know, because Bruce couldn't really deliver it with any confidence at how he felt about his Giants? Yeah, he did start to kind of fade off a little bit. I believe in Joe Shane. Danny Dimes, you know, we'll see. You're doing it again, Bruce. That's where we are. You know, we're not going to

close the gap to the Cowboys and Eagles in one offseason. Well, you're going to help it, though. We are better than we were at the beginning of this offseason. That's the interesting... AJ, have you watched this Hard Knocks? And I assume you're just like every player. We didn't know how those conversations have gone. I've never known how those – I've thought about how those things have gone.

My name, I think, has been a part of those, even though a very smart role. And I'm like, I'm wondering what they're – I'm wondering how they're – how are these people fucking talking about this? And who's the one doing the talking you know like there's a lot of those thoughts i think that happen with every single player and then now we're like seeing how some players are being talked about like danny dimes watching them go we're gonna figure out if you're here for it yeah yeah we're we're paying you 40 million we're gonna find out you know and danny, yeah. All right, now I know exactly how they feel.

I know how everybody going into the season feels. It's like an interesting dynamic. But some of those conversations, I'm like kind of, I don't want to say let down, but kind of bummed out that they're happening in those rooms. The same ones that are kind of happening in a locker room, same ones that are happening on this stage. It's like there's no real you know what i mean it's like uh yeah you feel like i guess we always just assume everything that goes on in the front office of an nfl franchise is just like yeah here

we go the the smartest people in the world there there's no like yeah i don't know we feel like there's they're humans though they're all humans they're just working through things and i i sure as hell would not want those cameras in my office every single day if I was anyone like that. I don't know how anyone else is going to allow that access again. First ones, yeah, this is potentially a Tom Brady Rose situation. Yeah. Where you do the Tom Brady Rose, Tom Brady makes a bunch of money, but then every other human that would potentially be in the Tom Brady sphere saw that,

and they're like, yep, humans' brains have gotten way too talented at burying people. I am not signing up for that one. It's like every other building, even owners who love all types of attention, are watching this just going like, I don't think this is what I want. But to NFL Films' credit, we are seeing everything. Did Joe Shane know? I love it. Did they know that this is all what it was going to be?

Did they forget? Have you heard people talk about like in the real world back in the day like they're like oh we almost forget about the cameras i'm like there's no way you actually completely forget but you definitely get much more comfortable i would never forget i don't think but it would be tough to not slip into having legit like normal conversation i'm proud of you saying that you wouldn't forget i forget sometimes on this stage and there's 30 cameras in here and we're right yeah i guess you're right you're right yeah i probably would forget i did i did something like that for like maybe two weeks leading up to preparing for the draft with uh coach prime like coming out of college definitely forget yeah

especially in that but then that definitely definitely if you say something though if you do something then maybe a couple minutes later like oh man there's cameras it's kind of like been mic'd up too like you know you go to people before the game. Hey, I'm the fans today. You know, they got me today. Then you get in the middle of the game, maybe talking shit in between a play to somebody. Yeah, you forget you got the badge. Yeah.

All of a sudden, we don't know who's fans. You son of a bitch. But, like, the thought of, like, them being the first ones to do it, you know? So there's, like like no real blueprint of what they could give out and then nfl films like the people that are getting the content and i guess it's just happened with rfk jr literally yeah two days ago but the nfl films has a log on it everybody saying things about people saying stuff about it, like in the NFL,

because they got those things hanging over, you know, benches. They got those things over coaches in the most heated moments. When somebody has their biggest mess up, there is somebody mic'd up who is pissed in a vault somewhere in NFL films. And that's why I like them. Seeing the ghost thing was such a big deal because the NFL films does a great job of like protecting like hey we got you we understand who you are like

if you're being mic'd up or whatever you're doing you got to really protect the people or you got to you got to really trust the people who are recording that because you can cut and edit literally anything to make it look like anything like that's what you could do so the NFL films people have built up obviously this incredible trust. What did they not put out? There has to be hours and hours that they had to sift through to get to that. But yeah, what if you're having a conversation on your phone with your wife and you're kind of talking about the day? She says, oh, are you going to get Saquon done? I don't know.

Do they add that? I'm sure there's – who has final say as well? Think about Shane, okay? Think about Shane talking to his wife saying, are you guys going to be able to pay Saquon?'m just going i don't think owner's gonna be just something like that now that is not the situation but anything like that and then all of a sudden you put your phone down oh no oh i gotta get to the truck where is the hey i need you not you know i need and they just oh we didn't even get it or anything and then he's rewind and they get

they got joe shane saying our owner being a cheapskate. And it's like, they released that? That guy's fired. It's like there's so much. What did they not put out with our reaction to everything that they did put out? You know, it's like a – Didn't Dayball say, though? Didn't Dayball say when he didn't want to – if he played music,

they could not use that part, so sometimes he would just play music in the room? So Matt Overton, who is an incredible long snapper, good dude, great football story too. His grind to get to the NFL is awesome. I think he was even playing all the way up until last year. Vinatieri and I, very much humans, we're like, we're not mic'd up. That's not how it's – I'm not being mic'd up. Because what D-Bot said, you got to do this.

Me being the punter for the team, I don't need to be walking up to people and going, hey. I'm like, you know, that doesn't need to happen. Vin and Terry basically instilled that in me. Like, hey, we don't do the – there's no reason to be an added anything at our position. It's like, cool. Matt Overton got asked to be mic'd up one time, and he just agreed to it.

He just agreed to it. And obviously, we didn't find out until warm-ups that this was happening. it right he just agreed to it and obviously we didn't find out until warm-ups that this was happening so like as he tells us and we love matt the amount of like the way fuck matt fuck overton matt just that's how me and vinny talked to him every other word like hey we're gonna go on the right hash here we're gonna do this every other word was something that they just weren't able to say so then vinitary and i obviously were enjoying it we look over at the cameraman and the producer and they're just like why you guys don't do that being children what are we doing here yeah that happens more than you think i believe why are you doing that it's like hey dude we just so but they got a good piece on

overton obviously there's some grunting and stuff like that but that's why like a lot of the mic'd up things suck because it's normally just because the person that's putting it out is like, we can't put this out because this potential. Or some fake leadership. You get a lot of fake leadership, too. All of a sudden, the guy's very vocal on the sidelines, like rounding the whole offense and the whole defense up, giving some cheesy, terrible pump-up speech.

Who was it again? Who was that? We've never said that on this particular program. We never will because we've got a lot of respect for them. But boy, there was certainly a guy. Is that a camera? Where is it? Right there.

Bring it up. Yeah. Offense, too. Come on. Everybody. Offense coaches, wives, everybody. Me and Vinny sitting on the bench, you know. Bring it up.

What are we doing? What are we doing? Bring it up. Why? Why are we bringing it up? Well, insert name, bring it up. What are we doing? What are we doing? Bring it up. Why? Why are we bringing it up? Well, insert name here wants to talk. And then Vinny, this mother. And we jog over.

Great. Greatest speech of all time, too. Sure. Really got everybody fired up. I mean, it was just. Did you guys win the game? That's a great question. It happened numerous times.

I mean, this isn't like. Oh, he continued. You lost the one then. So he felt like, hey, I'm the key. Got a great question it happened numerous times i mean this isn't like oh he continued okay you lost the one then so he felt like hey i'm the key gotta keep doing it team you know the team the people behind the scenes they probably love somebody oh this is great access what a leader let's mic him up again oh my god and everybody else is just disgusting those the speakers on teams like it's not like the movies. I think that's kind of my problem. That's my problem. I think some of these people think it's like the movies. It's like, yo, you've been in this locker room with us.

Why do you think that you're a speaker? There's no music. There's no music playing while a coach is speaking. There's no pump. The Rocky IV soundtrack's not running as this dude is trying to talk about the struggle and what we've been through. Yeah, it's not at all like the movies. And there's not a zoom in on somebody's face of grit.

We just learned this person's backstory. You're just standing there staring at a person. You're like, when's this guy going to shut the fuck up? That's how a lot of people feel. That is legitimately how a lot of people feel. Now, there are a few people, though, that when they get up there and speak. Ray Lewis. Bingo.

And you saw Ed Reed whenever he was at N are nine who's that 90 something so I'm hundred athlete in 21st century top I had read and Ray Lewis right yep they snuck in just barely stuck in that I said they were 99 and Reid was yeah he's stuck in a you know that's Ed Reed, though. He's fast, physical, smart, returner, block, defense, crazy ball time. You ever heard Belichick talk about Ed Reed? I think we actually have the clip, I do believe, of Bill. This is the number 99 athlete of the 21st century, Ed Reed. And now listen, I've gotten some text messages from some people that said,

can you please whenever you talk about these things not just act like it's every human at espn that did this you know like it's not me that put that vote i'm like well it says espn's top 100 list of athletes in the 21st century now impossible task whoever did this yeah whoever whoever created this well signed up for an impossible task. Trying to compare all sports against each other. Male, female, physical sports, judgment sports. Like the amount of, it's an impossible task.

It is an absolutely impossible task. We feel though, some of the people that are voting for this thing, we're voting for, this is what I think I'm supposed to, as opposed to the reality of the situation. Okay. Just, just reality of the entire thing. So with that being said,

we appreciate whoever took the time to make the list. It was an impossible task, but I have never seen a wrong or list. Not even seen a lot of lists too. We really have so many lists. I've made lists that have just been completely wrong. We should make one. No.

See, I just said it's impossible. We haven't even seen the top 25 yet, either. Like, this thing could get way better. What are you – Who's number one? Who's number one? I mean, we know who our number one is. Yeah, it's Roman Reigns.

That's true. He has Bob Backlund going. Boom. I don't know if Bob Backlund's going to crack. 21st century. Where would you have a four-time NFL MVP at? 91. It depends.

Is he vaxxed, damn it? All right. All right. 91. 91. Dude, I'm not even going to say a couple of it. But we need to clarify, because yesterday we did kind of just take it. It was the entire company, we said.

Sure. Including us. Which would include. which encapsulates us as well our show is an espn licensed show so we are in the esp universe we are on espn so we were just told like hey will you please like it's not every human at espn that thinks this is the end all be all this is like well obviously that's the case but tell me which one do then tell me which ones do yeah we find out whose list this is then, so then we can at least, you know, have a little conversation about how did we get,

how did we get here. It's Orlowski. That's what we think. I'm pretty sure he did the whole 100. Greeny had to sign off on it. Definitely, right? Yeah, but Greeny's not reading it. He's just like.

Yeah, his book was lit. It was in Italy last, like what? Was he in Italy? Where was he? Yeah, Italy, yeah. He was in Italy like the last three weeks. And it said okay. He was in Italy last. Like, what? Was he in Italy? Where was he? Yeah, Italy. Yeah. He was in Italy like the last three weeks. Traveling around Europe.

He got an email. You like this list? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I do.

I wonder. Who made the list? We would like to know. But it is an impossible task to do that list. And yes, I couldn't even fathom how loud it's going to get with the uh the rest of that thing oh yeah some terrible ai situation that did it they just typed it they gave him some prompts and ai spit that out that'd be cool if that's what they did though they should say it doesn't work and we know ai is terrible um all right let's talk about some stuff happening around the sports world aj did you could see the all-star game last night it was

actually like an enjoyable fun thing to watch. It really was. Congrats, baseball. Hell yeah. Good job, baseball. Shohei hitting the donger early helped, I think. It was all of it. Yeah, like, it seemed like it played out like it exceeded my expectations.

So, you know, going into it, I actually thought to myself, because of the way Ty talked about it, because of the way Jet talked about it, because of the way he was kind of, of you know with the history potentially on the line and historic pitcher starting for one of the teams uh like in the future of baseball being chatted about i did think to myself going into it like i think this should be a good game and then whenever you see the guys do the things like these dudes are trying and then you start comparing it to like the nba all-star game and the nfl pro bowl and it's like wait a minute these dudes are actually taking pride in this thing. Like Shohei, he wanted to hit a bomb in that All-Star game.

Like this is best on best. Just like Shohei at the end of that international baseball classic. Right. Wanted to end that thing. It's like they cared and you could sense it and you could feel it. And the best players were playing. And Paul Skeens, Aaron Judge ended up staring each other down. Paul Skeens says, all rise for me, bitch, to Aaron Judge, okay?

Because he is the future. Paul Skeen did not say that. That is me, an asshole, talking into a microphone about a situation that was one pitch and over. But I thought it was a great show, AJ, legitimately. And we got to see Paul and Aaron. It was one pitch. He wins. He would later do an interview and say, I want Adam.

I want Adam. He got on top of it. It felt real. It felt like a real game, didn't it? It felt like it was a big deal. And you're right. Baseball, though, obviously we know you can't go 50% in football because it's full contact sport. And basketball is a little different, too. But baseball, think about it.

Everything is an isolated like one on one incident if you're getting that bat in an all-star game you absolutely want to go yard you want to get hit if you're a pitcher like you want to show up and you want to show up in that all-star game so that's why I think that we do get this is probably it's got to be one of the best all-star games when you think of all

different sports right it might be it's got an effort wise for sure and then you talk about isolated incidents where like on defense like there was a couple hit down third baseline it's like what that guy's just gonna get an error yeah isn't that a big deal oh yeah not like that yeah like having an error is a big like this guy's in the all-star can't blame it on anybody else it's not like it's not you can loaf to the ball in football and somebody else makes the tackle like no it's it's on you like you never want to see so they're forced to play almost seemingly is what it feels like.

And I think they did appreciate a lot of the young... It felt like a new chapter of baseball. A lot of new faces that are kind of taking over. And it was very enjoyable. Good for baseball. Good for baseball last year. And like you said, it's kind of the same in the old Pro Bowls where guys obviously aren't

playing the whole game. But you could play in the first quarter and then get another series in the third quarter and then get another series in the fourth quarter. In baseball with these guys, a lot of these guys, you're getting one at bat, so you're probably playing two innings. If you don't perform in that at bat, your ass is on the bench the rest of the game, and that's your all-star game experience. So, yeah, every single one of them are going up there like okay well you know this isn't a regular game like i don't

necessarily need to like try to put out a good piece of hitting here like all these guys are trying to hit homers like they all want to steal the show like i think winning an all-star game mvp again in basketball football like all that stuff i don't think it really matters like in terms of like legacy like you know for baseball like i think it holds a little more weight because you are. All these pitchers that these guys are facing, almost every single one of them is throwing 100 miles an hour. They're getting a full tank because that guy is only pitching one inning. He's only throwing a couple pitches. It's all you can eat ice cream right now.

It's all you can eat ice cream, exactly. Right down the pipe. Yeah, just getting canoed right down the pipe. Right down the pipe there. And I appreciate the fact that baseball is getting hot and Pittsburgh is the epicenter of it. You know, because Paul Skins, which is beautiful. It really is. He's the guy.

He's the guy, too. The way he handles everything. You saw him show up in the all-white suit. Oh, yeah. He looks sweet. They sent his hat to the Hall of Fame afterwards. Nice. I think'm paul i say i'll hang on to my hat give me that back no that hat goes in his house when he signed the all-star game heading just put the regular pirates hat you know it's like oh yeah you want the pink and blue and

well we talked about the unis in the first hour they're trying to do too much yeah they're trying to do too much the socks're trying to do too much. The socks, my big deal. Socks just look so sick. Jerseys, though. Jerseys would be cool. They play. I think the jerseys themselves, purchasable, cool looking.

But the whole kit, this is a historic. It kind of looks like Klont. The socks kind of look a little Klont-y in my eyes. But everything other than that, fantastic. Cody Johnson. Cody Johnson. Need a Cody Johnson jersey. Killed it. Yeah. With the hat and everything, beautiful.

That guy. Look at this guy. I'm going to go ranching with this guy. I'll tackle a steer with this guy. You know what I mean? That's what I would do. I'd hop on my four-wheel, make my horse, and I would wrestle that steer just like it did Montana. And it certainly doesn't

hurt that, I mean, because it's him last night, it was basically like the equivalent, like if last night you would have eaten a piece of shit for dinner and then you had a filet mignon the next night. Jersey Mike. Yeah, Jersey Mike's the next day. It's basically the same thing. Like, that certainly didn't hurt, but man, did he knock it out of the park. And we needed it.

Ty, I'm happy you and AJ are the two that have been talking here the most over the last few minutes. Because you guys were doing some chatting yesterday at the end of the show. Caleb Williams' deal done. Oh, yeah. There it is. Remember that, AJ? The Packers owner, Packers all-time leading tackler.

Whenever there was a little, you know. Who was lying? Who was lying here? I think there was just maybe a misunderstanding of what the actual situation was. Nonetheless, $39 million guaranteed over four years for the number one overall pick. What did Stafford get when he was drafted in 2009 to the Lions?

Like $52 million or $56 million? We're almost creeping back up to it, right? Like, we go back to old CBA, old CBA money, whenever A.J. was drafted top five. These college dudes were getting so much money before ever stepping foot on the field and obviously you have the stories of all the busts that happen because it's very difficult to be an nfl quarterback or any nfl position and guys got paid like 30 40 50 70 million dollars guaranteed and then end up not making it and then somehow blowing through it.

That money's getting back up there with this. That's a $40 million guarantee for a guy who hasn't played in the NFL yet. We have no idea how it's going to go. Congrats to him. He's earned it. Number one overall pick. But the state of the NFL right now, money-wise, is beautiful. A.J. Hawk, how much did you get at five?

I mean, just ballpark. I honestly do not remember my initial deal coming out. But they were longer. Longer than four. Mine was like five. I honestly do not remember my initial deal coming out, but they were longer than four. Mine was like five. I think it may have been six, technically. I don't know. What's that? Years.

I'm talking how long it was. No, no. I'm talking the money. You were five overall. We could look this up. Yeah, easily. We could look this up. Andrew Brandt, obviously. Six years, $37.5 million.

Okay, was that fully guaranteed for you? I got to dig a little more for that. That was you? Not fully guaranteed, no. They didn't do that back then. Okay, so we talk about like old, old CBA money, and we talk about that. This new money that is in the NFL, gigantic. Now, Florio's reporting, I guess Zito just told me, that Caleb has not signed a deal.

Oh, uh-oh. Caleb Williams has not yet signed his rookie deal with the Bears. As handling over language continues, he's still yet signed his rookie deal with the bears as handling over language continues he's still expected to do so in parentheses i guess uh what is being told is that he's trying to get rid of the franchise tag yeah so he can't get tagged okay excited good luck i'm excited to see if it works out people have been trying to do that for a long time if he's able to pull it off i hope it's the case uh but one last you know give, give and take. Hope he's able to accomplish it. He's going to be the Bears quarterback, and he's getting $40 million guaranteed.

Has a venture capitalist fund. Made $10 million in NIO at USC last year. Kid's doing great. Congrats. You should be proud of yourself, Caleb. I don't know, though. What? Should you be proud?

I mean, I did this yesterday. Expected doesn't mean signed. Yeah, exactly. He's expected to sign. Sure. He wants to get rid of the franchise tag. Okay. What does he want?

To rename the franchise or put his face instead of the franchise tag. Okay, what does he want him to rename the franchise or put his face instead of the Bears logo? What's next? Yeah, or maybe him doing that. I mean, I'm just saying this guy's focused on a lot of stuff that's not football. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I hope he plays. I hope he does well. But I don't know. A.J. Hawke, $14 million guaranteed.

Congratulations. In Green Bay, that's a different world. A signing bonus of $1.9 million as well. Bro, Andrew Brandt took you to the cleaners. He did. How about Ed Barry being a star of this Hard Knocks? Have you seen this? I know.

I love having Ed pop up there. Ed's the man. We don't have any pictures of Ed, I'm sure, but when people see Ed cruising around with his fits, like the suits that Ed's wearing. Ed was sitting there at the Derby. He poured a whole cup of water on his suit to show me that this thing was water resistant.

Nothing leaked into it. Dead serious. I talked about the money team, Ed, you know, in the first hour, and that's not connected with Floyd Mayweather. That is how he talks about, you know, how he goes. He is this humble, religious, southern, preaching, handsome businessman. Like, that is what he is. And he's young, too.

I'm a massive fan of old Ed Berry. And then when I see his damn name pop up on hard knocks the first time i'm like that can't be you saying that god is that same ed barry and then all of a sudden he's young and he looks young he's young and he looks even younger than he is but he's yeah he's he's legit like a pastor at a church like he's unbelievable human but also a great agent seen him through a wedding yeah yeah yeah so i mean he's a he is a weapon. Ed Berry's a weapon. Speaking of a weapon, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who has a business called United Wholesale Mortgage, which is top notch.

Best mortgages out there. Top notch. I love him. I love that you. I absolutely love him. That business has done so well that now he's an owner of a professional sports team. Not just one, two of them. He's a former Michigan State Spartan national champion.

Go green! Go white! I just still don't think you whites should be saying that. D-butt? won two of them he's a former michigan state spartan national champion go green go white just still don't think you whites should be saying that d-butt yeah come on bro you should go green go away look at the screen you sure one more time go green go white hell yeah what hell yeah What did UConn do to you? School pride. I agree. Go green!

Go white! All right. See, now he even changed the... That was weird. All right. Anyways, he owns the Phoenix Suns and the Phoenix Mercury. Actually just built a $100 million practice facility for the WNBA Mercury in Phoenix, and they'll be hosting the All-Star Weekend festivities for the WNBA, launching tomorrow night.

Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Ishbia. Yay! Hey, go, Bree! What's up? Go away. I'm there with you. Matt, I'm telling you, as soon as I meet Foxy, okay, as soon as I meet Foxy, he's my first Michigan State friend ever.

We're walking through an airport, very public. I'm walking next to this guy. Somebody's wearing, he's wearing a Michigan State thing. Another guy wearing a Michigan State thing. We're walking through a public place. This guy's walking next to me. They do a Go Green. Foxy yells, Go White in public. I'm like, yo,

we are not doing that shit. That is not how this thing's going to go. That's how we do it. Okay, yeah, it is. It is. Yep, shout out Michigan State. Yeah, and if you don't respond, go white. You're not a real Michigan State fan. If you just say go green back, that's no good.

Yeah, but I think you should let everybody know what you're doing, though. Instead of just screaming go whitey in the middle of a public. You know what I mean? Like, that was a – anyways, Michigan State, obviously a fantastic place. It's created a lot of great things. You, obviously, being one of them now. Own, ownership in the NBA and the WNBA. Congrats on all the success. Let's talk about this weekend.

Phoenix is hosting the WNBA All-Star Weekend, which starts on Thursday night, Friday, and then game on Saturday. Team USA is taking on the WNBA All-Stars. How excited are you and your team for this? What is Phoenix going to do for this? And what should we be looking forward to, Matt? Yeah, it's going to be a great weekend. Obviously, the WNBA is at a reflection point. Everyone's seeing it, the excitement. Obviously, I know you guys are big in Indiana with Kaitlyn Clark and all the great things she's doing. But just the rookie

class, the legends that we have, Diana Taurasi on our team, so many great players across the league. And it's going to all be there. We're going to make it like an NBA All-Star weekend, a high, high level weekend, a lot of fun. And we're super excited about it. A lot of fans sold out both nights on national television. It's going to be just an amazing weekend. The WNBA is here and here to stay. And our practice facility is like another crown jewel moment where we're excited to really invest in the girls and invest in the league.

Yeah, I heard you're opening the doors for those tomorrow. Congratulations. Obviously, you took $100 million of your own money to build this practice facility for the Mercury. Opening doors tomorrow, I believe the court in the practice facility is named the Diana Taurasi Practice Court. Is that correct? Absolutely. Give a little love to her. She's one of the best players of all time, and we're lucky to have her here in Phoenix the whole time.

How was the construction? How was the construction of this $100 million facility? You know, we did it in less than a year. We announced it less than a year ago. We got it up and running, built it from scratch. We're really excited about it. And I know people think it takes a long time, but we really put a lot of focus on it. And the women are super excited. How many WNBA teams have a full practice facility? Not that many, but hopefully there's many more follow. Hopefully it's the leading indicator. You know, we're elevating the game. We think it's the best facility in all of women's sports and hopefully others will follow. Okay. Well, congrats on all of that,

and congrats on continuing, you know, to want to bring a young energy, seemingly, into ownership. Whenever you were here for the All-Star game, we talked about the Phoenix Suns, and obviously your first couple years here being an owner over there, spend money. You talked about the luxury tax, and you're like, I don't think people care about how much money I have to pay to the NBA so that we can be a good team. Like nobody wants to hear that. And I think

it comes from the fact that you're, you know, college basketball player, basketball fan. I assume lifelong dream is to own a basketball team. Now you're sitting in a spot where the Mercury, I believe are in sixth place, top eight, make the playoffs are in sixth. The Phoenix Suns now are also in a very interesting spot. How do you feel about living out your lifelong dream of owning basketball teams? And what have you learned and where are you potentially heading here for this? Yeah, I'm having the best time ever. So much fun enjoying it. I love basketball. Y'all wasn't good enough to play at that level. So be able to be part of it in a small way and give the resources

to my coach, my players, my GMs, make sure that they have all the tools to be successful. And so, yeah, the Phoenix Suns, the Phoenix Mercury, we're putting a lot of money, a lot of time into it, but a lot of care and love. That's more important. And, you know, I'm a fan. At the end of the day, are we going to win? I want to win the championship. Are we going to win? Who knows, but we're going to compete. We're going to do our best. Do you have to hear, do you hear all the outside noise? You know, because a lot of the conversation about the Suns is obviously, is Kevin Durant happy? Do they have anything to move? Do they have any money? Are they able to do anything? Do you hear all the outside noise? Because a lot of the conversation about the Suns is obviously, is Kevin Durant happy? Do they have anything to move? Do they have any money?

Are they able to do anything? Do you hear all the outside noise? Do you have to block it out? Because I assume before you're an owner, you're a part of that outside noise as a basketball fan. You're like, the way this is going. Then you become an owner, and all of a sudden, you're the one that is in the seat that everybody's kind of aiming at.

How do you manage that? I hear it. Sometimes it frustrates you because you know they're wrong. But some part of you embrace it and enjoy it because, you know what, they don't talk about people in last place. They talk about the teams that have high expectations. We have high expectations with the Phoenix Suns. I got Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, Brad Beal.

And guess what? We didn't succeed at the level we wanted to. So we get a little egg on our face. Hey, we're going to retool and come back at it again this year. But we ain't going to stop trying, that's for sure. That's literally sports in a nutshell. Speaking of Kevin Durant, D-Bot's got a question for you. Yeah, you got Kevin Durant, Devin Booker over there playing the Olympics.

How do those conversations go with you for players that are going and playing, you know, going to this Olympic run? We obviously saw Kawhi pull out because of reasons. We know Embiid has had some injury issues. Even KD had a little calf thing. But how do those conversations go with ownership and the team and with the players when they're going to the Olympics? Just 1,000% support.

I mean, Devin Booker and Kevin Durant, it's an honor that they are selected, and they want to represent their country. The last thing I'm going to do is ever say, hey, what about this? Or what about, you know, go over there and win a gold medal, represent our country. I'm going to try to go over there and watch them, support those guys. That's what we do. We're part of each other's team, part of each other's lives. Supporting our team, I think

they're having a great time. I know they just played earlier today. Kevin's not playing right now, but he'll be playing soon, hopefully. I hope they bring home the gold for the USA. Yeah, we're playing Serbia. I don't know if that game's over. We're up 14 at halftime. Yeah, we're up 25 right now, 83-50. Hey, we're figuring it out, Matt. Our team's figuring it out.

And you're obviously a guy that I believe what you said is I'll mop the floor if I have to. Like, that was my style as a Michigan State Spartan basketball player. Like, we're smacking whatever it takes. We're doing that. With this Team USA team, it's like everybody's a superstar, have to figure

out the role in the team and they're kind of doing that. Are you helping with that whenever it comes to the Mercury and the Suns? Do you watch that? Do you observe that? Do you have an interesting take on that, like people finding their role on teams and how teams can really come together? Well, that's a big part of anything, whether it's sports. Like all of us in high school, I'm the best player.

In college, I'm the worst player, right? In NBA, some of the guys are the best players, and they're all going to the Olympic team, and now there'm the worst player, right? In NBA, some of the guys are the best players. They're all going to the Olympic team, and now there's 12 best players, right? So how do you work together? I mean, I had nothing to do with that with the Olympic team. Obviously, they've got great coaches, and Grant Hill runs the whole organization there. But for the Suns and Mercury, that's definitely part of it.

You've got to make sure pieces fit, and that's part of continuity as well. Like, you know, the Suns didn't do as well as we wanted last year. We won 49 games, but we didn't get to where we wanted. But part of that is that was our first year together. We got continuity now to get a little healthier, get things going. You've got to understand your role is this. On this team, you scored 30 a game, but here you might only score 18 or 20. That's just team sports.

That's life. You've got to adjust. If you don't adjust, you can't win. Kids have to play in team sports growing up, by the way. Have to. Have to. We need to continue to bang that drum. Is that gorilla doing anything for you guys this year? Is there anything different going on with the Gorilla? You gotta come out. I know you love Scottsdale. Come out and check out

the Gorilla. They do some sweet dunks. We have a lot of fun. Everyone loves it out there. Yeah, Chef Bo's. I mean, we do love. That's probably going to be the end spot for me and the family at some point. Love it out there. Excited to see you guys continue to grow. Go ahead, AJ. Do you talk to any owners from other sports

or even in the basketball world to kind of gauge how you go about your day-to-day as an owner? Is there anyone you can kind of call and lean on and figure out, hey, should I be involved here? Should I not? Do I need to show my face more or less? Because we see owners in all sports at all different levels. We see Jerry Jones all the time.

Some owners you never see. Do you have any, like, a plan on what you do, like, day to day? Yeah, you know, the other owners have been great. The NFL owners, the MLB owners, the NBA owners. I talk to a lot of them, all of them, you know, in different situations. But the truth is you've got to be yourself. You've got to be who you are. Like, I'm a hands-on kind of guy.

I love it. I'm younger. I'm energetic. I'm involved. I'm passionate. I'm going to make mistakes, but I care. Everyone knows that. You got to be who you are. Just like when you were in the NFL and you understand how that is, you have to be who you are. You can't try to mold to everyone else because I'm not anybody else. I'm 44 years old. I'm an owner of the team, the men's and the women's

team. I love women's basketball, men's basketball. There's no one like me and I'm not in a good way and a bad way. I'm going to be myself. And so, yes, you can lean on others, but you kind of just got to stay true to who you are. And that's what I'm doing, whether it works or not. We're going to find out, I guess, together. You and Ryan Smith sit down in those meetings, look at each other and just be like you and me next 30 years, buddy. We did it. Do you guys do that?

We talk a lot. He's a great owner. I like him a lot. We spent some time together yesterday, actually here in Vegas. Golfing? Are you a golfer? I'm not a golfer. Barely time together yesterday, actually, here in Vegas. Golfing? Are you a golfer? I'm not a golfer. Barely can do anything besides basketball or other sports, but I'm not a golfer. But the NBA owners means we're here in Vegas, and now I'm flying to Phoenix today for the WNBA All-Star weekend,

so I'm still out in Vegas. Yeah, Summer League, obviously, there's a lot going on and building of teams. And don't golf with Ryan Smith, sandbagger. He's very, very, very, very, very good. He wears cool hats, too. He looks sweet. He does the whole thing.

Yeah, just don't do it. Ty has a question for you. Matt, what went into the decision-making to land on Mike Budenholzer as the new head coach? And then also, I know it's probably more so a media thing, but how do you kind of deal with, like, when you have a team like you have and you have a generational player like Kevin Durant, if you guys don't win an NBA championship,

you're in that boat where everyone's kind of saying, like, all right, well, Budenholzer, he's not going to cut it. You've got to get him out of there. You've got to get a new coach who's going to be able to gel with Durant and Devin Booker and all these other guys. Like, how do you approach that whole situation? Yeah, well, first off, Kevin Durant is a generational player. Devin Booker is becoming that as well.

I think those guys are super, and obviously we've got Brad and other players too. But for Coach Bud, the thing is you've got to put them in positions to succeed. So my job as owner, I'm not calling plays. I've got to find the best owner that's best for those guys. And so what I learned was the best coach might not be the best coach for my guys, right? And so you've got to find them.

And I think Bud, Coach Budenheiser, is going to be the best for our guys, holding them accountable, pushing them. He's won an NBA championship. He's won it as an assistant in San Antonio. He won it as a head at Milwaukee. But also, he's a CEO. He's a leader. He's a director.

He's in charge. There's no question. I'm in the room with him. I report to him. He's the man. And so I love that. And I think Kevin and Devin and Brad, all of our players love it. You want a leader. You need someone to

lead a team. And Coach Bud's that guy. I'm really excited about him. Exciting. Now, you're making a lot of moves, obviously. And by a lot of moves, I mean in that particular position. So it's always going to be loud. There's always going to be chatter. Especially in that Western conference. Hey, loaded. Star-studded over there. I assume you don't want it any other

way, right? I mean, that's why you sign up to be – you need it. You got to compete to win. You know, there's a lot of great teams. You know, there's a lot of teams that can win the Western Conference, win the NBA Championship. You can also miss the playoffs. It's that competitive out there. And so it's going to be a lot of fun.

I'm excited about it. And I think we got the team to compete. How – you still shoot at all or no? You – I do. When I come back to your guys' spot, I'm going to have to get a couple shots up with you. Okay, so you still – I mean, you played college basketball. You're a white dude from Michigan.

He's training threes all day. Yeah, I assume you splash. Is that right? I'm okay. I'm okay. I can shoot a little bit. I was a point guard. I pass the ball better, but I can shoot a little bit.

Yeah, but you got handles. T.J. McConnell, though, he's point guard, but he will splash if he has to. Like, athlete it in. That's mid-range. Yeah, if he creates any space, that's him too, huh? Got to be. Floater, probably got a mean floater. Yeah, is it mid-range or are you getting separation?

I do love T.J. McConnell's game. He's at University of Arizona. He's out here in Phoenix, you know, from Arizona out this way, and I love his game, but he's much, much better than I am. But I have a little style. I know I'm not going to take him. Don't worry. I know that you're looking at me like that. Thank you. My bad.

We love him out here, and he's a Pittsburgh guy. Pittsburgh guy goes to University of Arizona like Gronkowski, you know, to Western Pennsylvania. Connor has a question for you. It feels like things are good right now. Yeah, Matt, how much at the owners' meetings are you guys talking about kind of the future of the NBA with the media deals that are now pouring in?

Is there going to be a lot of changes when it comes to broadcasting? Are you guys considering that? And what also are you guys going to do with the new WNBA media deal that was just announced? Yeah, you know, there's a lot of changes coming, but I think they're changing for the better. You know, I think Adam Silver's done an amazing job of leading these leagues and doing all the great things he does with this media deal. And it's getting great partners and it's really trying to grow the league. And everyone

wants to consume it. It's a global league. You know, it's the one sport that's definitely global, just like soccer is throughout the world, basketball is throughout the world. And so kudos to Adam Silver. And yeah, we talk about the future of the media world, but also the future of the game. There's competition committees. How do we make things better? How do we look at bulk? There's a lot of really great stuff. And like I said, I think everything starts with a leader, and Adam Silver is an amazing leader. And I think the NBA is in a great position because of him. Yeah. Whenever you have, I don't want to say every business has to be this way, but kind of, whenever you have, I don't want to say like every business has to be this way,

but kind of, whenever you have at least a vision, right, and you know who to follow behind, it feels like Adam Silver is very comfortable in that role and very good at that role, right? Absolutely. Definitely the leader. Definitely knows what he wants. He communicates great.

And the league is doing great. The league is flourishing. And obviously you have to have star players and great everything, but it starts with Adam and he does a great job, and we all try to play our roles in helping the league grow. I appreciate the hell out of Adam Silver. He went to bat for me. I appreciate the hell out of him.

Go ahead, AJ. Are there any challenges that you've come across over the last couple years as an owner that you may not have thought about when you initially got the team? I would imagine every single day you have a billion things you're dealing with, but what's a couple things that you may have not seen coming up? Well, the big, the big thing is I saw it coming, but I didn't realize like the amount of exposure and the amount of second guessing everything that you do. You know, I'm a, I was a fan my

whole life and it's like, yo, why did they do this? But you hear it from a million people. And you know, if you fail in business, my mortgage company does great every day. We have a bad day. Nobody knows and nobody cares, right? We have a bad day at the Phoenix Suns. Like I got 38 texts, 29 phone calls. Why didn't you think of this? I'm like, I wasn't even at the game and we're doing our best. Like it's a, so, you know, you get so much exposure, so much notoriety tied to it. But at the same time, I embraced that. So I love that. And I kind of expected it just, it's bigger. And the other big thing is, you know, AJ is just health. You know, you got to have healthy team, no healthy team no matter you know a lot of players players get hurt and it's part of the game and that's impacted our success but a lot of team success sorry i stepped on you there in the

middle of that your mindset is like such a classic like billionaire mindset do you hear that these are all obstacles or they're opportunities like your mind is like just naturally have you always been that way is that just how you're wired i'm just positive i i'm excited i'm lucky to be in the position i am i love what i do and at the same time obstacles yeah there are opportunities to get better and improve and we're gonna keep doing it yeah i mean and you get a bunch of text messages and it's good to hear from everybody like that's how that's like how you billionaire that's connor has a question for you man yeah matt obviously the biggest story of the draft This year was Bronny and he only

Wanted to go to two places LA Or Phoenix and that was kind of the only two places He was willing to go it seemed Are you and Jeannie Buss like dapping up when you guys Go to the owners meetings like look at us We're doing it or what is the mindset Or kind of like the thought Around that when a player of his stature

Only wants to go to your team Yeah you know I think you know I don't know exactly where like the thought around that when a player of his stature only wants to go to your team? Yeah, you know, I think, you know, I don't know exactly where Bronny might go. We really like Bronny. We thought he was a good player. I know the Lakers drafted him. I hope he has a great career. He's got a great basketball IQ.

He does a lot of great things. And he's got a lot of pressure to be the son of one of the greatest of all time. He's got pressure on him. And so we thought it might be a good fit here in Phoenix. Obviously, the Lakers drafted him. I wish him the best. But we feel good. People want to come here. We want Phoenix to be a destination for the Mercury, for the Suns, for the

players, for fans. We want it to be a destination. When people want to play for us or want to be part of our organization, whether it's free agents, whether it's rookies, it feels great. We're trying to build that here in Phoenix. We're trying to do something special. It's always a positive thing, in my opinion. A special weekend this weekend for basketball. Kaitlin Clark, Angel Reese taking on Team USA over there in Phoenix at the Footprint Center.

What are you expecting from the game? Like, we just watched the—I don't know enough about the WNBA All-Star Game. I do apologize. I will certainly watch this because this is massive. This is a must-watch. This is my marquee this weekend, which is great for the state of the game, great for everything. We just watched the MLB All-Star Game. It was awesome. It was great. It was great television.

You know, the NBA All-Star game is what it is. I mean, it's always going to be. The NFL Pro Bowl is what it is. Always going to be that way. What should we be expecting from this weekend, and what are you hearing from the chirp in a Team USA versus WNBA All-Stars? Well, I think it's going to be extremely competitive. The difference is definitely when the Olympic team plays against the rest. I think it's going to be, and I think it's older versus younger, it's going to be extremely competitive. The difference is definitely when the Olympic team plays against the rest. I think it's going to be, and I think it's older versus younger, it's going to be a pretty cool game. I think it's going to have a lot of excitement. I think it's going to be competitive.

Obviously, you can never predict the all-star game, but I think be on the lookout because I think the young players or the Kaitlin Clark, Angel Reese, but also there's all the great WNBA all-stars on that team. First, the Olympic greats. It's going to be a battle. We'll see who wins. It'll be fun. I see you're rolling out-Stars on that team. First Olympic greats. It's going to be a battle. We'll see who wins. It'll be fun.

I see you're rolling out the orange carpet on Thursday night. You're going to be all suited and booted. You doing the fashion walk, the entrance thing? I mean, I don't look like you, Pat. I can't get away with that. I'm going to do my best. I'm not a good-looking guy. I'm just going to get out there and be part of it.

Dress like a fool, asshole, dude. We just saw the fashion week out in Paris where people are just wearing asshole costumes. Put a shin guard on. Cut off the back of your suit. Orange carpet, maybe Lloyd Christmas from Dumb and Dumber. Oh yes, with that top hat. Do the entire thing.

I mean, really own that runway, Matt. Own that thing. Alright, I'm going to look into that. I might do that for you. We would be a part of another massive story. You're the man. Keep crushing it. We appreciate your time. Good luck this weekend.

Thanks for having me. Appreciate you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Espiel. Yeah, Matt. You got continuity, okay? Everybody needs to get it. Because people are like, you got Kevin Durant, Booker, and Bill. Better win.

What are you going to do? You going to try a 20-31 pick? Is that what you're going to do? That's what they've done. It's a tough job. They've done it here for a little while. A bunch of different types of super teams. And then went to the finals.

They did end up going to the finals. But HB is like, we're going to figure it out. And if that luxury tax thing can be manipulated, he is certainly, from our conversations with him, he is going to. So how much are they going to fine me for this? $250 million. Fuck, are we going to win? People still selling houses with him, he is going to. So how much are they going to fine me for this? $250 million.

Fuck. Are we going to win? People still selling houses? Yeah. All right. Sweet. We would like to do that. Let's go ahead and do it. I like that.

44 years old is very young. That's very, very young. Yeah. I like that you built a $100 million practice facility for the WNBA team. I wish every owner would update their facilities if you don't already have a new one. Own money there. And I think this is a younger generation thing because we all kind of, I don't want to say we all and act like I have the same brain as those people,

but it's like the expectation, I know the NFL does it, and it's a lot of money, and it brings a lot of money to the city and everything like that. But if you're a bazillionaire in the world in which we live right now, just build your own shit. Every other business has to do it. Build your own shit, then you can own it too. So then if there's an AFC championship game

that needs a home in a dome stadium and you have one, you can just be like, yeah, we'll host the AFC championship game in two weeks. Or the city will say, nah, we actually got a volleyball tournament that comes here every single year 40,000 kids so we are going to do that and you can't host the fc championship and it's like i don't blame the city for doing that because that's a long-term contract but it's like if you can own your own shit do and you should be the one that i don't

want to say has to but like because you're bringing a lot of money to the sea but you should feel obligated to yes you know like it feels like you get to own one of these teams. Like you get to, like that's a, I think that's a different view now of people that are getting into kind of ownership. Now in the NFL, it's always going to be because everything's so expensive, so much cement, so much space and everything. It's always going to be any amount of money that comes into the city and a Superbowl comes, which is even more.

So it's always going to be a business arrangement, but I like him taking a hundred million dollars and just being like, yeah, let's build a facility. Like that's cool. Like that's what a billionaire, you know, like if I'm a being like, yeah, let's build a facility. That's cool. That's what a billionaire ... I think that's a younger thing, too. Hey, you take care of your people, your people will take care of you. Especially with athletes, you give them all

that they need. Hopefully, if you bring the right people in, they're going to do what it takes to get you the championship. It's not an easy way to win over fans immediately because you're spending a shit ton of money, but when you are a billionaire, it is a pretty easy way. Like, hey, I'm investing all of my own shit into this, so

let's pack this stadium out. We see it in Utah. You see it with Ryan Smith and what happens to the Utah Jazz. They've sold out, what, 270 straight home games. It's not like the Utah Jazz are the number one seed in the West. They still have the support of their fans no matter what. And I don't think Ryan's paying for that.

Oh, it's a big arena. But they're making renovations for the hockey. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, incredible. I like young minds getting in there. I like young minds getting in there and continuing to evolve because professional sports are the greatest thing on earth. College sports are also professional sports.

Love them as well. We'll be back tomorrow with a great Thursday. Boy, tomorrow's show is going to be top notch. Be a friend. Tell a friend something show is going to be top notch. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Oh, I don't know if the end of life hit me.

I think you got it. Yeah, just check. I think it's to say lift. It needs to be lift. Check the tape. They get it. I think it's going to be lift. It's all right. That means life in a different language, though.

Certainly. There's other countries Where you say things that mean things in our country And then you say it in their country It's completely different And then in reverse England calls some things some things I can't be smoking cigs That one

That's just the truth That's the one I'm talking about That's just the truth I'll tell you There's a comedy club down in Austin That one. That's just the truth. That's the one I'm talking about. That's just the truth. I'll tell you, there's a comedy club down in Austin, I think, that is looking for cigarettes all the time. Yeah, well, at least they were a couple nights ago.

It's a wild time. It is a wild time to be alive, obviously. Anytime people are trying to make people feel better, that's a good thing. We need to keep that going. Feel good, good vibes vibes life's hard enough for everybody we already know that okay and that's just how it is so i'm happy that well you know let's all let's hey here we are enjoy it let's enjoy this thing you know because perspective takes place you can either get angry about everything or you can look at it like in a positive fashion let's do that okay let's do that

now for instance uh i should probably take my own uh advice you know sometimes when i see somebody say something and i'm like yeah just don't worry about it just move along just be positive but also who the is this yeah yeah yeah hold on you're allowed to you're allowed to and you spend a couple minutes on then you move on yeah type a full thing up yep read it through oh if i said this would be uh this would be signed sealed delivered game over if i was to do this but i'm not gonna do it i'm gonna put up put the phone back in the bathing suit yep and i'm just gonna walk i'm gonna walk it off and uh there's a couple of those during the commercial or during the break but we need to stop doing that. We need to stop caring. We all just need to understand that this life ends literally

at any moment. Let's keep going. That's a good way to do it, though. It's like getting it out. Because if you don't, then down the road, there is that one person who maybe on the wrong day says something, and then they do get the full

not edited version of that burial. That thing has been thought out. That person might have something as innocuous as like, today's show wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be. Not even malicious. You're just like, fuck it. This guy's dead.

I'm killing him. I'm past those. Those have been happening for a long time. You know, even like tweets were getting judged back in the day for me, which was like, this is one of his worst tweets. It's like, geez, all right, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. So those people don't matter.

It's all the, you know, the blogging journalist people. The industry. Yeah. Whenever they say something, I'm like, you don't even fucking know. Like, you have no idea about anything that is happening just read your little fucking teleprompter talk about what they tell you to talk about and shut up that is what i want to that is kind of what i want to say there but i don't and this is going to be this is new me yeah hell yeah look at you this is new us we're all going to do this well sure right i mean i

don't know. Sure. I'm proud of us. Something to think about for sure. Gumps, you're the one I'm talking to. Something to think about. Gump will copy, paste the tweet, send it to me as quick as possible. You see this? Really?

Yeah, Nick was playing something earlier. I'm like, I don't need to hear it. Nick, I do not need to hear this. I do not need to hate anybody right now. I'm turning over a new leaf. Woke up, during the break, had that idea, had that mindset. Go look in the mirror. Hey, we don't care about these people anymore.

Fuck these people. We don't care about them. Then, you know, hour two passes. What did that guy say again? We don't care about these people. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, yeah, it's a whole thing. All right, anyways, what if it's Wednesday, hey, hey. Yeah, yeah. It's a whole thing. All right. Anyways, what if Wednesday? I really enjoyed the baseball last night.

It really is the best all-star game because you can't, like, to Ty's point, like you can't half-ass that or you are the biggest dipshit out there. I'm FaceTiming Jet Pass in here. He's probably traveling. That's the issue with all these events is, like, day after everybody we'd like to talk to normally on the road back home. Also, they need to do something for passing. Jack, okay, hey, we're live.

We're live, we're live, we're live, okay? Have him out. Get him a stool. Hey, absolute home run, all-star game, everything except for the socks that they had Paul Skeens wearing. What do you think? Uniforms were a disaster. Players were fantastic and seeing schemes out there versus oh my god hold on you're gonna tell that car in that airport they cannot now's not the

time for them to be moving any people around that airport that beep got real loud but baseball crushed last night brother go ahead i'm. I'm sorry. It was fantastic. No, it was fantastic. And look, baseball has always done the All-Star Game better than any other sport. Because baseball is a game that is made up of constant one-on-one competitions. And seeing Paul Skeens out there against the elite of the elite. And seeing Shohei Otani go up there and smack a three-run home run. And seeing Jaron Durant from the Red Sox win the MVP by hitting a home run himself. The whole thing was great.

And I love the fact that baseball has this showcase that it does where the best of the best actually care. It's an all-star game where there's real competition, and that's what we're always looking for. I just heard some real meatheads in the back say, well, there's also no physicality, so we're not really worried about anybody bumping into anybody or attacking anybody. Connor knows a lot about physicality. Okay.

That was Nick Morald. He actually said it. Connor didn't say anything. But Nick probably echoes the sentiment of a lot of people that maybe aren't the biggest baseball fans, but I think baseball is bringing in a lot of new fans right now, Jed. I think that is a real thing. Last night, Paul Skeenens burying Aaron Judge.

Just putting him to sleep with one pitch. Good for baseball, bad for baseball. What do you think, Jed? Great for baseball because the Pirates are going to be facing the Yankees and we're going to see Skeens versus Soto and Judge again and that's the best of what the game can be, right?

When you've got power versus power. You've got Haas versus Haas. You've got two dudes just going straight up against each other and trying to make the other look bad. And, look, as much as the judge at bat was a little disappointing because it was only one pitch. Disappointing? It was dominant.

You're wrong. D-word, dummy. It was dominant. It was one pitch. That's all it was. Put him to sleep. I know. It was one pitch. But the bat versus Soto to me was even better. That was a six, I think

it was a six pitch at bat. First pitch made him look absolutely silly. Swinging through the splinker. Came back and Soto takes a couple of balls, does his little shuffle thing, and then tries to take a huge daddy hack and swings right over the splinker again.

And he ended up working a walk, because that's what Juan Soto does. He's got the best eye in the world right now. Really? The idea that these two can face each other, and that it's going to mean something in a regular season game and that we could be seeing a Pirates-Yankees series down the line in the World Series. I mean, that's where the excitement is, man. Baseball's a game that needs stars.

And I think Paul Skeen's, like, if it wasn't established already, it is now, like, firmly clear. He is a star. He is up there with the baton. And Judge Insoto is an absolute must-see. Yeah, I agree. And we thought there was a chance that he was dancing with Soto, you know, because he was okay with a walk. Like, if a walk comes, we'll get Aaron Judge. If not, and we were talking about that, literally led the show with that.

Like, we love that he did this. And then we got a message immediately, like, nah, he was trying to strike out Soto. And the box on TV said it was a strike, 100 on the inside. Obviously, it kind of crosses off Contreras a little bit. I believe it's how you baseball people would describe the situation. Last night was awesome. I'm just echoing.

I'm a parrot right now of what Ty said earlier and what you have said over the last couple of days. The memory is normally pretty good, so I can use other people's information pretty solidly. But Ty said there was a little TV situation that happened. I don't know if you can hear him or not. Jet, tell them to stop fucking doing that

where they put you and Kirkchen over there. Like, they got to give you guys something. First of all, I didn't know Kevin Connors was fucking seven foot five. But, I mean, what are they doing? It's bullshit. It's not right, and you need to

really go in there and raise some hell what am i supposed to do like stand on a box put in lifts yes yeah i think the box irishman shoes i think the box i i think you do what's his face deniro deniro and the irishman where he had those shoes imagine you walking around or at least have them lower the deck Like Kirkjian's chin was on the desk When you guys were up there What is that like? He said Jesus I can hardly even see

Over the desk right now Can we get some Can we lower the Can anyone have a screwdriver We can lower the legs Hey we appreciate your guys service Thank you for doing what you did The game was awesome Cody Johnson crushed the national anthem we can lower the legs. Hey, we appreciate your guys' service. Thank you for doing what you did.

The game was awesome. Cody Johnson crushed the national anthem. Yeah, I mean, you would have crushed the national anthem compared to the jersey. All right, all right, all right. Safe travels, Jet. Couldn't help, Jet. Jeez. So that's your take on the national anthem there

on the shit sandwich, the jersey mics. And then AJ goes, it's all isolated one-on-one. That's jet passing. We got range here, boys. Yes, we do. I had to take a piss. Perfect time, baseball. Get out.

Boom. Done. That was awesome. Good game, though. It was great. Let's come back on the other side. We got to make predictions. Super Bowl predictions on the other side. We got to make predictions. That's right. Oh, yeah. Super Bowl predictions on the other side.

Oh, yeah. All right. First team has reported to training camp. The NFL season has officially begun. Who's winning the Super Bowl? We don't know who's on what team. Where's Brandon Ayuk? We have no fucking idea.

We have no clue how any of these rookies are going to be. We know Caleb Williams is looking at an offer that says $39 million guaranteed. We've heard he hasn't signed it. How's he going to do? Because what if he plays good ball? They got weapons. They got a defense. They got an entire situation maybe in the NFC North.

In Jordan Love, is the end of the season last year what it's going to be going for, like Devontae Adams and everybody else who has eyes think? Yes. What about C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans? Was that a one-year thing? If they don't win a couple of playoffs games, is this a sophomore slump for C.J. Stroud? Uh-oh. What about Patrick Mahomes?

You see him? His shorts were riding up when he walked out into training camp. He's got a TV there. Travis Kelsey's doing Taylor Swift dance moves. Are they going to be able to win three straight Super Bowls for the first? We don't know shit about fuck. He's got a TV there. Travis Kelsey's doing Taylor Swift dance moves. Are they going to be able to win three straight Super Bowls for the first? We don't know shit about fuck. But we're going to pick Super Bowl champs on the other side.

That's right. Hope you guys give the right answer. I am. Don't take my answer. Well, I already have mine, so. I hope you agree with me because I'm right. I don't know. If you agree with me, then you're right, yeah.

Well, the thing about my pick is if your pick is my pick, then I feel good about our pick. The thing about my pick is that my guy already saw this in the future. Who's your guy? Your NCAA college coach? Who? Dutch? No, Dutch hasn't made it up yet. Dutch Danger. That's Coach. Coach Dutch Danger.

I fucked it up yesterday. He said Dale Dutch. He's just it up. That's Coach. Coach Dutch Danger. Yeah, I fucked it up yesterday. Yeah, he said Dale Dutch. He's just fucking 5'6 of hell. Dutch Danger is? Yeah, 5'6, 280. AJ, do you hear? He's speaking. I don't know if he was being serious or not.

I am. 5'6. He was speaking into his. That's why they got to take a knee. He's speaking into his car. Oh, wait. Are you serious? It's a real.

Is there a mic on the remote? There's a mic on the controller. They can't hear me, but just for mental effects. They can hear you. I can hear me. We the land, who the land. We expect, who expect. You got it, you got it, you got it.

Yeah, yeah. I can get it, I can get it, I can get it. We did that opening week. What the fear of God in these motherfuckers. Line up this motherfucking school board. Now let me the fuck down. I did that a couple times. Do you see Coach JB on the internet?

Whatever this NCAA college football. Coach Chef JB. He makes some amazing cuisine on the school. Who is he feeding? Everybody. The whole neighborhood. I don't even know. I don't know what neighborhood he lives in to have that much. He'll have 70 racks of ribs.

Oh, yeah. He's like, Chef JB cooking today. Big dog got to eat. Get that brisket. Here we got that brisket. He's got all the bulls. Yeah, he's got bull cow. Dogs. Yep.

All those dogs. Boy, the internet really enjoyed Coach JB's clips From Last Chance U whenever they were trying to motivate the boys And Buddy Buddy Stevens had a couple as well I didn't see any of Buddy He fought a ref one game Touch me, motherfucker

Pushes a guy, guy bumps into him That is the JB really took over I mean, he's a lightning rod I'm going to have to get you a nice little cut up Of Buddy Stevens from season one Of what, Last Chance U? J.B. really took over because he's a lightning rod. I'm going to have to get you a nice little cut up of Buddy Stevens from season one. Of what? Last Chance U? Yeah, in season two.

I've only seen three episodes of Last Chance U. And it's all J.B. and Buddy. What a coach. I was happy I didn't have to go to the Juco route while I was watching. My man, thank God. I didn't have great grades, but that SAT score got me out of that entire situation. And then any guy that I hear makes it from JUCO after watching it, I'm like, way to go, dude. What a story.

You earned it. You earned it. What a story. And then you got JB over there just every day of his life trying to motivate these guys. Oh, yeah. I actually recently rewatched all 16 episodes over break that he's in just unbelievable unbelievable still is still holds up it's the best zito just said you want me to call him it's like i don't know if we should be calling coach jb and coach jb understands we

probably shouldn't be calling me not right now so let's call coach jb actually let's let's see if he how about when he walked in He smelled weed on a couple A couple dudes smelled like weed in his one meeting He lost his mind I want to know his actual thoughts On everybody using his clips To describe what they are doing

In this college football game He has to feel so good about it But then once again he's going to remind us Netflix didn't fucking pay me anything Well and that's what he said Fucking NCAAs better pay my ass. I hope he answers.

That's JV football, baby. That is JV football. What time is it? 11 on the West Coast? Yeah, but he goes live at like 4 a.m. Yeah, exactly. Got a little... Got that yak. Stick.

What a human. Let's get to a break didn't answer okay oh wait wait oh he's on car play because he's rolling around in that cat yeah obviously yeah he had that for a minute uh what a human he he what a human He's the best. He's a master motivator. Which is what he actually says. He told the team while motivating them how motivating he was. Talking about getting grades. I didn't learn a squirt of piss

in high school or college. I'm a cold hustler. I'm a stone cold hustler. As he was doing a motivational speech he told them he was the greatest motivator on earth i've never seen anybody actually utilize motivate complimenting yourself as a motivator when motivating and that's what the motivation exactly that's the expertise that's a master class yeah that's a master class. Yeah. That's a master class. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who has spoke to every single NCAA college football 2025 team seemingly on the internet. From Last Chance U, national champion, Coach JB.

Yeah, Coach! What's up, gentlemen? Coach, just great car, great stick. Thank you for pulling off to the side of the road. Hope you don't get killed here. Honestly, the side of the road, L.A., I assume, that's not necessarily the safest place on earth, so we'll make this quick. How do you feel about all of these new coaches now

in this NCAA College Football 2025 game using your speeches to motivate these boys from one side of the country to the other coach i feel broke yeah yeah like it's crazy can i get like uh can i get like a royalty or something like netflix already screwed me can i i'm getting screwed by ea sports now too like holy shit i hit him up i reached out to him like hey trying to be cordial and nice i'm a nice guy you know me yeah and i was like hey ea sports maybe i can actually be your video guy than the actual do a real video instead of using my name image and likeness oh shit and uh maybe i can maybe

get a little piece of the pie but no it's right. Just keep sharing my 500 million views of it. I don't mean to laugh at you, but obviously you are a hilarious, miserable person. And this is kind of how it goes. I was actually just I was actually chilling. My back went out yesterday, so I didn't even do my show today. So I'm at I just left my chiropractor and I I'm waiting on this damn cigar company to open. They're late, of course. I mean, come on. Okay, so life is good.

Last question for me, because I know the last time we talked to you, you had not watched the Netflix series Last Chance. You said that. You said, I've not watched it. I've not watched it, but obviously you've heard from everybody. Now, do you see some clips that come across your way? You're like, I don't remember saying that. And then all of a sudden, oh, I killed that. And do you judge your clips whenever you see them? You're like, I don't remember saying that. And then all of a sudden, oh, I killed that.

And do you judge your clips whenever you see them? You're like, I murdered that one. Abroad came over to the house the other day, and I didn't really want to watch Netflix with her and chill. But she wanted to watch the show. We watched one episode. And I'm like, I can't watch this. And she was like, oh, my God.

I'm like, I don't want to watch this. It was the first scene of the cow scene or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, they only made about $4 billion off my name on this shit. I'm not watching Netflix either. So I'm spiteful right now, Pat. I don't want to watch Netflix. I don't want to watch EA Sports video game. I'm like, man.

And I can't even get 40,000 subscribers on my YouTube channel. Well, you're going to. You're going to the moon. We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. Hopefully't even get 40,000 subscribers on my YouTube channel. Well, you're going to. You're going to the moon. We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. Hopefully, it'll get figured out, and we know the Netflix and chill thing, what that leads to. Bad backs, chiropractors. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach JB.

Yeah, Coach. Obviously, the opinions and the way that Coach JB speaks about people is not reflective of how we speak, JB speaks about people who's not reflective of how we speak. But JB is somebody who seemingly signed on for a reality show. And then when the producers made the reality show, they said, oh, we got something. We got it. We found him. And I think this happened with a lot of reality TV.

Yes. Where they don't really make anything, right? Because you're not really. Not until like season seven if you do it around. What was the Korean show? Like the biggest shit ever. Squid Games? Yeah. Yeah, that lady didn't get her money for a while, but she did end up getting it. Yeah, that's like a competition

game show. A little different. Like Jersey Shore, for instance. Remember, there was like a full-on holdout before like season six because they weren't making it real world yeah the ms is like a good like the ms carried real world and then the challenge for a little they had to make all their money from like club appearances that was a big thing back in the day in that reality show era we'd show up at a club and they'd be like bumper buck mcfuck from whatever reality show is actually in the vip you won't go maybe he's

doing an appearance you know know, taking pictures. And it's like, why is that person here? It's like, well, this is their business. Like you get popular on these reality shows. These companies, the production networks, they're the ones that make all the money off the show, right? Now there's a lot of those shows that fail. And they lose a shit ton of money and that whole thing.

That's their side of it. And then the person has to like kind of make money off of it doing it in jb i mean that was like kind of the the story that was the exact exact story because his clips on that last chance they're running around the internet right now oh yeah oh yeah just running around wild right now and uh what a human born and raised in compton california he'll let you know that, obviously. He'll say things that you would assume that you should not say, but then he'll say... I can say that.

I can say whatever the fuck I want. Yeah. He's a weapon, dude. An absolute weapon. Loose cannon. Weapon. Absolutely. Netflix didn't need to figure something out.

Yeah, they should. They shouldn't do stand-up, though. Like, why don't they just do stand-up? What? Can you imagine? I mean, it just turned into crowd work. He'd just... Yeah, he'd just...

It'd be great. He needs to figure out, like, you know, like, the way you profit off those things. It's like appearances and stuff. He has the podcast, obviously. He has the YouTube. He's doing the whole thing. But, like, him going on a stage and just slaughtering people.

Kill Tony. Like, that would be a... Yeah, he gets 60 seconds yeah he just walks up there like he would just that might have been on the brady roast he could have done the brady roast the only issue is potentially he gets distracted in the middle of it you know but if he honed his craft right and he was able to he would be able to crowd work himself into a very successful career i think oh yeah just watching him cook oh yeah for sure he would there would be something that JB would have.

I don't know why we're talking about this. He needs to be on the sideline. All right? That's where Coach JB with a fucking headset on. I agree. Cameras, mics. That's where Coach JB needs to be. He's motivating millions right now. I mean, if Mayo doesn't. Fake players, real players. Fake players, real. And you talked about that

Juco route. Those are the type of coaches you need in Jucos. Yeah, you're right. Get Coach J.B. a headset. Can we run one of those? Can we run one of those? Let's do the fear of God in these motherfuckers. I got it right there.

I got it right there. I had to listen to it yesterday just because. Oh, yeah, you want me to send it? Yeah, so we can put it up on the thing. Right before a big game, big championship game? It really depends. Because sometimes at halftime my boys are just, you know,

they're not feeling it the way they used to. Well, it's because they got a 5'4 coach. Yeah, 6, and he's 280. He's a fucking... It's not like he's just skin and bones, okay? You choose the height and weight for your coach, aren't you? Oh, yeah.

Pipeline, where he came from. He learned under Kiffin. So it's not as if he's just some dipshit. Oh, really? He's an offensive genius. Yeah, he played center at Bentley U in Waltham, Massachusetts. Is that D3? D2.

Tough D2 ball. We've had some NFL guys that Dutch played with. Here's Coach J. It's only the 14th second one. Z, I just texted you. You want me to airdrop it? Yeah, we need the full thing. I got all 105.

You actually watch the team figure out what they're doing. Exactly. Because obviously we weren't able to rehearse this. This is Juco. We're jogging out for a game in the tunnel. We don't get to go through all of the – I think an airdrop just took place in the video. You don't get to go through all the semantics

of like, hey boys, I'm going to give a speech. You guys are going to do a callback. We're going to do that. So they didn't get a chance to really do that until live, right before a game. And I'll tell you what, Coach JB got the boys going. You got it? Alright, you ready? On three, fellas, you got it. One, two,

three. Who's that? To dominate the line of fucking scrimmage. Who's that? Go again. Who's that?, two, three. Who's that? To dominate the line of fucking scrimmage. Who's that? Go again. Who's that? Go loud, go. Who's that? To put a leather hat to the ball all night long.

Who's that? Who's that? To shut these motherfuckers out. Who's that? Who's that? To lead this bitch victorious. Who's that? Who's that?

Hit that observer. Yep. Hey, hold up, hold up, hold up. You think that's it? Come on, come on. No. You feel it now. You feel it now.

All right, let's start it over then. Let's go. On you. One, two, three. Who's next? We dominate the line of scrimmage. Who's next? Who's next?

We're 11 and a half times a motherfucking ball. Who's next? Who's next? To shut these motherfuckers out. Who's next? Who's next? To leave this bitch victorious. Who's next?

Who's next? To not let me the fuck down. Who's next? Who's next? To lead this bitch victorious. We say who's next? To not let me the fuck down. We say who's next? To light up this motherfucking scoreboard. We say who's next? To put the fear of God in these motherfuckers. We say who's next? To win.

Headbutt. Get audible. Get audible. We got it. We got it. That was too high. Oh, man. Jeez. You should have seen Cam. That was too high. Oh, man. Jeez.

You should have seen Cam Rising here in that speech. Man. Cam Rising is obviously on Coach Dutch Dangerous' team. Yeah, of course. Leader. No, just not. Is Cam Rising back? Pig Farmer, he's back another year?

Yeah. I believe so. Because he got another year eligibility. Yeah, because he got hurt last year. Yeah. Great hair. Is that COVID thing up now? Isn't it now it expired?

You don't get an extra COVID year? It was interesting. There was like eight, nine years ago. Yeah, there still is. There's that one kid who plays tight end at Oregon. I mean, granted, it goes back before COVID, but I think this is his last year because of the COVID. So back in the day, there used to be

gray shirt, blue shirt, red shirt. I had a friend who had all those. Is blue shirt hurt? What is blue shirt? Medical, I think, right? Gray shirt is like sitting out that first semester checking in then he can red shirt after that then blue shirt is a medical one so it was like he was six and a half seven years could have been a doctor i was in the nfl i got franchise tag he was still in school and uh he and i same class so that was a fun that

and he was the perfect human for that to happen. I mean, Tripp's the guy. You know, that whole took place. But now it's like guys were just, yeah, I'm coming back. Yeah. Yeah, I'm coming back. Yeah. Guy's transferred. Let's see if the NCAA will let me play. Yeah, year eight's good.

How about this guy? I hate it. You hate it? Fucking hate it. Get in the workforce. All right. He has a shot. Get in the fucking workforce.

Get kids in high school trying to get a scholarship, all right? Okay. If these guys and gals have a chance. Go to XFL. Go had his shot. Get in the fucking workforce. Get kids in high school. Try to get a scholarship, all right? Okay. Give these guys and gals a chance. Go to the XFL. Go to the XFL. UFL. So I know that you feel that way.

You feel that way. Where were you guys whenever this was happening, the punters and the kickers for the Australian? Oh, yeah. Where were you guys when I was here? Oh, we can't say you're not allowed to come over here and play. It's different. We had some old Canadians on our college team, too. J.R. House was on my team.

I get that. He was a 26-, 27-year-old freshman. But, like, it got to a point where it felt like every punter was 45 years old in college. Like, 45-year-old. And it's like, if I'm running a team, if I'm Dutch Danger, I'm signing a 45-year-old Australian as well. Let me get this straight. You're going to be able to just hit this ball 38 40 yards every single time yep you're married with kids yep all right so you're gonna have no problem yep perfect yeah i would definitely do that but

then you got like 17 year old you know kids that are like all of a sudden there's 40 of the scholarships available that used to be for a position i know it's just kickers and just punters but that became a massive when did i start uh i would say like probably within the last 10 years that happened to high school kids on the on the edge i talked to parents who their kid was a couple of them like the kids going into their second year of college they one people a couple i know they sent their kid to a prep school because where they were going where he wanted to go they said hey we want to bring him we want to have like six scholarships because we have all these dudes from the covid years coming back we have dudes transferring in so it was less

opportunities for some high school kids that were kind of like fringe bubble guys i think and i would like to say in in the kicking point let alone uh all those like i assume those dudes are playing hey you're good dudes like hey we i know and you're able to do it so like you do what you gotta do every australian that i've, except for one that I haven't met, but damn near every Australian that I've met in the punting world, great people. Y'all are the best. Hard work.

So it's like a hard conversation to have. I just wish, like, when I was 17, I could have competed against a 29-year-old Australian just to see how I would have done. Because I think as a 17-year-old prick that I was, I would have been like the shit that I would have been saying to a grown-ass man. That's how I would have been like the shit that I would have been saying to a grown-ass man. That's how I would have viewed it. I probably would have

got buried, but that is a real convo that's taking place. In college now, the roster limits with the NIL and everything that's taking place and the salary caps that are going to be put into place, how much money, $20 million, $10 million, whatever it is, I guess that's going to cause the elimination of walk-ons is the fear, which is where

the Kirby Smart, Lane Kiffin thing came about. As opposed to just eliminating walk-ons, they're thinking that the things that are going to be put in place are probably going to end up changing that. It's like we're in the middle of a wild time right now. Portal on top of it. And there's no free agency. There's no free agency period either.

So you enter the portal, and then there's 3,000 people in there So, like, you enter the portal and then there's 3,000 people in there. Yeah. And it's like... And if you're good, if your team's really good or really bad, you're going to lose dudes. Like, especially if you're really bad.

Like, you're going to lose any of your good players who are going to get picked and go somewhere else. The self-recruiting every year that gets added into this, like, obviously, you guys paid $70 to become college football coaches.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love it. We're in it. Love it. You losing a lot of your guys? You got a pretty good culture. We got – I spread the rock around. And, look, whoever's in there, I'm going to get the production out of them.

They're going to win. They're going to go to the league. Yeah, but are you telling the truth in recruiting? Are you telling them – you know, because that could probably save yourself some problems coming at the end of the season if you're telling the truth as opposed to lying to these kids. Yeah, I only auto-recruit. So four and five stars, that's the only people I really talk to,

and I tell them the truth. Zito just told me that you guys paid a lot more than $70 to do this, too. Yeah, $88.99. Yep, I got the $10. Needed the three-day early access. Without a doubt. Not even a question. Didn't even think about it twice.

AJ, these dudes are paying for a job. These dudes are paying for a job These dudes are paying for a job So what do you mean you recruit Like is there like a You familiar with what recruiting is It's the lifeblood of college football Are you controlling them You're controlling your dude

You walk in high school hallways You're goddamn right I'm pounding the pavement In every state in the United States And I'm finding my boys who understand Hey hey, listen, we run the football here. We play defense. If you don't like it, then get the fuck out of here. I got nothing for you. And then, yeah, I send the house at them, offer them a scholarship,

and then we wait. And then, you know, a couple weeks later, we either hit them with a soft pitch or a hard pitch. They go, oh, you want to go to Notre Dame and fucking sit on your ass? Okay, you want to come to Iowa City? Fucking be a star? Sounds good. How long is two weeks

in this game? You're recruiting before you play your game that week and then you're going to the next week. And then you guys aren't even playing the game. No, no, no. AJ, they're not even playing games. They can say, I mean, the game itself. And you guys aren't even playing the game. No, no, no. AJ, they're not even playing games.

They can say, I want to play pivotal moments or two-minute drills. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's nobody on this team. I was going to say, we're playing full games out here. Playing defense. Kicking the ball. That's not what I heard. Well, I don't know.

You already got someone who's already out on the game. I feel as though the back room maybe might be playing the game in one way. We are out – excuse me. Ty and I are out here walking into homes. Recruiting. Recruiting. And then what are we doing? We're putting our fucking helmets on.

We're spinning the pill, and we're rushing the quarterback. I'm game planning while they're on the road. Well, you're auto – Chasing these slapdicks around. Yeah, but do you know if the AI has the same messaging that you want to have to your boys? Exactly. Do you know that? Just get the groceries messaging that you want to have to your boys? Exactly. Just get the groceries in here. I'll make it work.

Now, my quarterback, I've got to find a replacement for Shador. But outside of that, I can figure it out. How's Shador doing? He had nine turnovers, right? Well, it wasn't him. It was a bunch of fumbles, hit sticks. Nine fumbles? No, I threw a couple picks. I'm not going to lie. You know, I'm trying to squeeze tight windows.

Hey, Utah, that defense. Woo. Yeah, they fired. Yeah, we fired out. Was it in Utah or in Colorado that game? Tough to win in Utah. This was Big 12 Championship. I think that was in Boulder.

Yeah, the regular season games in Colorado. Yeah. So you were actually playing? No, we weren't playing against each other. No, we weren't playing. These are our own seasons. Okay, you just so happen to play each other. Same schools played last time. Rivalry week. Battle of the Rockies.

He had a two-point game. I had a one-point game. So, you know. Can you just play and not deal with all the rest of it? Do you want your program to go to shit? Yeah, you do. I guess I can't then. I gotta become a coach. I have to become a college coach if I just want to play one game.

If I want to have a team that's any good, I guess. You got to pay 90 bucks first. Well, you can also just do quick play and just play with whatever team you want. But we're fucking trying to build dynasties here, okay? We're trying to build legacies, my friend. That's what it's all about. I'm just like Devontae. I'm chasing greatness, brother.

I ain't going after one title. I'm going after Saban. Devontae came out on a couple different podcasts and talked about how Jordan didn't know Jordan Love was going to be like this. He thought there was a chance, an opportunity. He had no idea. Doesn't say he regretted going

to the Raiders, but he did say that's a part of the entire conversation for him to decide to leave the Green Bay Packers. Feels like everybody's seeing the same thing with Jordan Love. Yeah, I think so. We, I mean, we'll see. But as of right now, and then someone mentioned something about his contract yesterday, and he just, boom, shut it down right away. Not talking about that right now.

But I'm very, very hopeful something's going to get done. But we'll see. My expectations going into this year are very, very high. Okay, let's talk about expectations. First day of the NFL season here. Houston Texans have checked into training camp. First team to officially do so. Ty, who's winning the Super Bowl this year?

I'm going to go with the Chiefs over the Packers. Whoa. Losing. Yeah. You got the Chiefs making a three-peat. Packers win the NFC. Congrats, Jordan Love. First NFC championship.

Huge. It's a big deal. Yeah. Is he going to play similar to how he played at the end of the year? I Congrats, Jordan Love. First NFC championship. It's a big deal. Is he going to play similar to how he played at the end of the year? I think so. He's going to be very good this year. We'll see. Maybe even in MVP conversations. I would assume they're still the youngest team in the NFL.

You never know. New defensive coordinator, a bunch of new pieces. The team's going to look fairly different this year than it did last year, but I think they're going to build on what they did last year. I do expect them to go to the Super Bowl. I don't think they're going to win because I do think the Chiefs are just inevitable. Until I actually see them get beat in the playoffs.

Big moment. Yeah, exactly. I got to ride with them. Patrick Mahomes has a TV in his dorm room. Connor, who are you picking on in the Super Bowl, pal? I'm going to go ahead and take the MVP of the league, the New York football Jets and Aaron Rodgers beating the Detroit Lions. In the Super Bowl?

In the Super Bowl, yeah, I am. Jets over Lions. Yeah, absolutely. Aaron Rodgers all the way back. All the way back. I mean, if they stay healthy, and granted you could say this for any fucking team, but if they do actually stay healthy, Mike Williams, Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall, they reloaded the whole entire offensive line.

Everyone thinks Rodgers is just some big, dumb, hippie fuck. But in reality, he is the greatest ball thrower in the history of the NFL, and I genuinely do think he'll win the MVP just like a spiteful year, just like COVID, and they will figure it out. They got one of, if not the best defense in the entire NFL. And then you just look at the Lions. They've just built every year, and I'm a huge MCDC believer. I know Foxy was bumping his gums about players getting injured

on his own team this morning, which didn't make much sense to me. But I do believe in what they got built over there, and I think Jameer Gibbs too. Like he takes a step. Montgomery's still there. Amon Ross still there. Who's offense coordinator? Ben Johnson's still there.

Bingo. Laporta. Laporta another year. Jared Goff. Jared Goff. It's no longer that. Excuse me. You just picked them to go to Super Bowl.

Old habits die hard. And that's another reason why I think they're going to go. It's just like the stars are aligning for these poopy, poopy franchises to finally make a run. And that's why I do think it'll be Jets over Lions. On your last point there, Jets, Lions, Super Bowl. Could you imagine saying that five years ago? No.

If you said something like that, you'd get locked up. Not anymore? Now it's just a prediction. Plus 22 hunch is what the Jets are. Lions are ahead of the Eagles. Excuse me, tied with the Eagles. Ahead of the Bills. I think the Bills should be plus 4,000.

Yeah, well, you're a Patriots fan, but you picking in the division, picking the Jets, wild, wild move. Excited to see how it works out. Let's go to Darius J. Butler. Your prediction for the Super Bowl on this first day of the NFL season as the Houston Texans officially report the training camp. Well, I was all in on Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, Travis Kelsey and the boys, Spag still over there.

Until he came out, he's got the TV. He's got the TV now. So he's never had a TV before. Coming off back-to-back Super Bowls, he threw the TV in. We got Kelsey, you know, dancing. He's at concerts. He always does that. He's doing a TV now, so he's never had a TV before. Coming off back-to-back Super Bowls, you throw the TV in. We got Kelsey, you know, dancing. He's at concerts. He always does that. He's in love.

He always does. He's in love. He's a better person. I hope this doesn't make the Patrick Mahomes hype video once he wins another Super Bowl inevitably. But we'll go to the Philadelphia Eagles. Fell off bad last year. They obviously signed Saquon. He'll be motivated defensively.

They got to figure some shit out. I'm going to go with the Eagles over the Baltimore Ravens, who get over the hump and beat the Chiefs in the AFC Championship. Wow. I like the pick. I like the pick. Could you imagine Saquon, Derrick Henry, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Sirianni, Harbaugh.

Here we go. That football will be boom. Grab the pot. And we will have some real football. I like the pick. And Patrick knows, you know, whenever he comes out and says, first time ever doing something after having all the success that he's had, people are going to react to it.

He's Patrick Mahomes. You like the Philadelphia Eagles. You like the Chiefs. You like the Jets. A.J. Hawk, who do you like? I haven't given it too much thought, but I tell you what, Conman almost made me change my mind how he sold the Jets. He really

did. That was, you know, it's interesting to think about. Well, you were with the quarterback. How's Aaron feeling? Yeah. Aaron, yeah, I think Aaron absolutely will be all the way back. I have no idea what the rest of the squad will look like. I know their defense is going to be great, and they have studs. Yeah, I like what the Jets are doing, but no, I'm going Ravens-Niners.

I think the Ravens find a way. They win it all. Boom. Niners get back there. I love what the Niners have. I love their team. They could definitely win it too, but give me the Ravens. Patrick Ricard and Derrick Henry, are you kidding me?

When you need a yard, good luck. Good luck stopping them. Fourth quarter, you know. It gets cold. It gets cold, and you're on on the road or you're playing late in december january into february are you kidding me with those guys in the backfield yeah you're aj hawk middle linebacker all-time leading tackler for the green bay packers and whenever you point out like hey when it gets cold and there's some meat back there and it's fourth quarter and you're

tired and exhausted and they're just running right downhill at you that that's like not only obviously a physical check, mental check too. And that's their team's makeup. That's what they're going to be out there. Oh, yeah. And their defense flies around. You got Hamilton's going to turn the ball over a million times on defense. I forgot about Hamilton. They have studs all over the place, man.

How did I forget about Hamilton? Oh, yeah. Hamilton, the guy. Lost queen. Roquan. Yeah. Lost coordinator too. Mike McDonald.

Yep. They did. This was Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. All right lost a coordinator, too. Mike McDonald. This was South Seattle. Alright, good work, boys. What do you got? We knew it. You guys are pundits analysts. I'm just hoes. You guys look out for the simple logo colors. What are they?

That top right up there. Lime green and red. It could have a raven look. I don't know. They did say last year it kind of changed because there was purple last year. Is that what you said? Yeah, New Orleans. Thanks, Logan. I like Chiefs as the Chiefs.

Just know that. Is it against the Eagles or the Lions? I don't know. But I think that's. So Niners just fucking dead in the water, huh? Missed a shot. I think... No, I think Niners win within the next three years.

Ten years. Three years, three years. Fifteen. I think it happens. I think it's happening. You watch that receivers, and you think about the Niners. It's like there's always something, you know? Just feels like it.

I still think the Niners are obviously phenomenal. Make an entire – no, yeah, Niners are making the Super Bowl. Give me the top two. Chiefs are beating the Niners. Come on. I just saw Fred. I just saw Fred. Yeah, Fred Warner-Roman, yeah.

Literally, in my head, I saw Fred Warner just flying, and then Bosa's going to be all the way back, right, because he's not going to hold out. So, if you've got Bosa Fred and then ooze right they're saying he's probably to be out most of the year just because you know really most of the year yeah yeah man he's but they did sign somebody to replace him I forget who it was was it how about me just going chocolate oh Devon or uh Campbell or Campbell. Yeah, Devondra and Campbell now. And then Kendricks was going to go, but then he backed out. Chiefs 9 are so easy to pick, obviously, because we've seen them do it.

But it's like that NFC side, I think there's a little dancing. And then you think about the Ravens are geared up for it. They were what? Quarter of a yard? Yeah. Patriots have the worst odds. They were so good. The Ravens were a quarter of a yard.

Yeah, that's wild. A punch out. They could run the ball a little more, too. How do the Patriots have worse odds odds. The Ravens are a quarter of the yard. A punch out? They run the ball a little more, too. How do the Patriots have worse odds than Carolina? They don't. Oh, my God. Yeah, they do. They have the worst odds.

Look. Oh, Jesus Christ. I thought it was all 20,000. That makes no sense. Patriots are the worst. Yeah, they're the last. That's a value pick. That's a value pick.

I guess. Wow, you guys suck. You know who else was lost last year? Who's that? Houston Texans. Do you know what they did? What'd they do? They went on a run. I'll tell you what, CJ Stratton won the Super Bowl, we're the MVP this year.

Bust. It's a down year for sure. Isn't that crazy? That's how they're going to talk about it? I mean, they are loaded. He didn't throw a pick for, what, 12 weeks or so? 11 weeks? Whatever it was, he didn't throw a pick. They're going to be judging him against last year every single week. And CJ will be able to handle it. CJ's a dog.

You do what you got to do. But the people, the way they're going to talk about that team, if they have any struggle, I mean, it's going to be wild. Because what they did last year was so absurd. Yeah. That came out of nowhere. That is not how they – D'Amico gets another year in that building too, another year of culture building.

I mean, there's a whole other – Diggs, Mixer. Texans. That's where it gets real, though. That's when you find out who they are. Like, hey, how do you handle winning? That's a lot tougher than handling losing, I think. How does your team respond when everyone expects you to win? They just became a wagon overnight.

Welcome to your second year, CJ. You're a wagon. Second year. Better make the Super Bowl. That's kind of like Patrick Mahomes that started. Yeah. Patrick was like year four. It was like, this guy's great. Is he going to be Tom Brady or not?

He better win this game. It's like he's in his third year. What are we even thinking about? And then now him showing up on TV, this is just him saying, I don't have any superstitions. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Also, it's like, hey, I know this shit so well.

I used to have to bury my head in the playbook. Guess what? I fucking don't matter. Also, it's like, hey, I know this shit so well. I used to have to bury my head in the playbook. Guess what? I fucking don't anymore. Yeah, I'm drawing up the plays for Andy. Yeah. Chiefs are still the Chiefs is how I feel. Yeah. NFC side, awesome.

Ravens, sweet. Colts obviously going to make a deep run. Obviously. Thank you, AJ. I like that. I like the obviously. They're good. Honestly, I think they're going to surprise some people,

especially if AR can stay healthy. What's the over-under for wins for the Indianapolis Colts? Seven and a half, I think. Okay. They're going to get a bigger hammer. You taking the under? What? No, you're taking the over.

Shane Steichen's calling plays? I would take the over. I would honestly take the over. I'd look out for those Titans. They had a good offseason. They did. Will Levis also could be a guy. Exactly. Will Levis could be a guy.

Saw some moments of it all. They fire Vrabel. You think to yourself, this is a dumb team. And then they start piecing things together. It's like, wait a minute. This team actually has... They just want to go a different direction. Good luck to the Tennessee Titans. Don't look now. AFC South might be the toughest division in the entire

NFL. I know nobody's going to talk about it, but there's a chance. AFC South is the toughest division in football. What are you going to say about seeing Vrabel? I see him running around on the practice field for the Cleveland Browns. Oh, yeah. He's going to bring some grit and some toughness there. I saw him do karaoke out at the American Century Championship. He killed it, as always.

What did he sing? It was like a group song. I forget. Honestly, I don't know what they're saying now. Did you do karaoke? I song. I forget. Honestly, I don't know what they say now. Did you do karaoke? I went and I observed. So they didn't force you to do it? It's like legit.

They're a real band. They learn the songs for them and everything. People get up and perform. You have Bret Baier. He killed it. Blake Griffin and Chandler Parsons did a little duet. They killed it. It was fun.

And Travis Kelsey won. He took the trophy home. Well, of course. That's what Travis Kelsey does. Travis Kelsey performed what song? Honestly, I don't know. I forget now. He killed it, though.

No, it wasn't that, but it was whatever. I told him afterwards, like, man, like me and my brother are standing there watching. We gave him a ton of credit. That dude, he didn't dip his toes in. He went all in. Like, he was performing. He was acting out different parts of the song. Like, he didn't dip his toes in. He went all in. He was performing. He was acting out different parts of the song.

He killed it. So, obviously, we don't want to speak for anybody. Sure. But I assume whenever you're dating the greatest showman, you know. Yeah, it's not fair, kind of. I wonder if she went through some steps for him. Probably. Probably a little trickle down, too, just from watching her.

Osmosis. He's been in that tent so many times watching her do her do her thing he's thinking to himself if i ever have to do anything i'm gonna do that little sliding knee thing right there yeah exactly it's kind of cheating oh that's how that's how i hold the mic that's what i do yeah he's got all the little tricks and he crushed it killed him killed it because he didn't he like i said he didn't tiptoe in there he jumped full board he's been the same person throughout this entire thing which nobody else could do that there's nobody else that could be him going on that stage just Like I said, he didn't tiptoe in there. He jumped full board. He's been the same person throughout this entire thing. Which nobody else could do that.

There's nobody else that could be. Him going on that stage just being completely raw, like going all in in front of a big group of people. A lot of people potentially start to get a little bit more guarded, a little bit more of this. It's like Travis Kelsey has remained Travis Kelsey through this entire thing. And that's why we've said from the beginning, this is the one. This is awesome. I'm happy for them. I'm happy he won. I'm happy he put on a show.

Sounds like the American Century was awesome. Yeah, the whole thing, yeah. Top to bottom. It was awesome. I'm pretty pumped that all my bruises are on my feet. Yeah. My toes, like the tips of my toes are all like bruised and like, you know, blistered. Okay, so that's what I got during the not real

round yeah what was that last year yeah the pro am probably jd and the boys yeah great people great people are there i got yeah the jack daniel boy yeah i got yeah every toe got bruised because my shoes weren't the proper size and i didn't walk golf courses because i'm not a psycho so when you get out the tahoe and you've got to walk eight miles through mountains and your feet are sliding around, I had blisters on the back, bruises on every single toe. And that's just the start. The thing starts tomorrow morning. Then the real golf starts.

This is great news. My feet have never been more miserable than last year at the American Century. That's golf, baby. We're more happy that AJ has some fire fire shoes. He always does. Golf shoes. Jays, clean, east side, golf top. Oh, yeah. I love east side stuff.

Yeah, good stuff. Good fit. Fits well. Yeah, fits well. It's a good stretch, good fit. Oh, no. Bank. Colts, over-unders, eight and a half.

Okay. Oh. Even better. Yeah, we're going to be above 500. Chainstike. Who has the lowest? is eight and a half. Okay. Oh. Even better. Yeah, we're going to be above 500. Chainstike. Who has the lowest? Patriots. Patriots, yeah.

Probably the Patriots. How many? Three and a half, maybe. No. Probably. I believe they have the hardest schedule. Four and a half. If this goes in, Patriots are going to go over.

All right. Here we go. For Drake Bay! Oh. That was it. Guess not. That was it. Career thing or season? No, just season. Just over in general? This is where his drunk uncle is surviving an entire

year. No chance. Oh! He lives! Don't you speak on him. The man lives! I can't wait. Just because we saw his uncle hammer drunk walking through a lobby on the night before the draft, that that is just how – talking shit to me. That's just how I'm going to talk about the May family forever.

Yeah. I feel so good about it. I'll be honest. Dude, him talking shit, dad who his dad is, brothers who they are, the way he operates, I think it's like this is a dude. The way the draft went, like obviously, and we talked about this because the Colts did the same thing. When you sign your own players and people think your team sucks,

which, you know, they won four games last year. They did suck. But when you sign the players that are actual, like, dudes, like it's sweet as a fan of that team, but no one else really gets that unless they're good. Is Drew down holding out? No, no, no. He was at camp, but he does want another dude.

Gonzo coming back. He was a dog as a rookie. And obviously you got Brissette there too until May is ready. I mean, them having the longest odds, I didn't expect that. They do have the toughest schedule, I believe. What does that mean, though? I mean, I think they play. I don't know if we play the AFC.

We don't know who's going to be great this year, though. Yeah, think about going into last year. People had Houston Texans on their schedule. They're like, well, that's dumpster. Yeah, exactly. And then all of a sudden, that team's really good. And that's what I mean. Sure, they have the longest odds now.

But say Drake, what happens if it's a Chargers situation where Drake Mays is forced into the game and then he runs over a linebacker, knocks him out, and it's like, oh, holy shit. This guy's fucking absolutely out. And what you're referring to is Justin Herbert. Tyrod Taylor was the starting quarterback for the Los Angeles Chargers. They were about to play the Kansas City Chiefs week 4-5.

I forget what it was. And a doctor stuck a golf tee into Tyrod Taylor's lung and punctured his lung, trying to give him a shot. And that was 15 minutes before the game because the shot was only good for like four hours. So they were trying to wait for as close to game time to give the shot. Shot ends up puncturing Lugg, which I guess is an outcome that could happen. It did happen. Doesn't happen anywhere else.

Happened there. And then Justin Herbert, people in the huddle didn't even know that Justin Herbert was starting until he jogged on the field for the first play. And they're like, what are you doing? Well, Tyra Taylor got a golf tee shoved through his lung just about five minutes ago. And then in first play or second play, he rolls out to his right, runs down the sideline. Somebody's coming, lowers his shoulder, carts defense. They bring a concussion, cart that guy.

And everybody in Los Angeles was like, we got a guy. And Tyron Taylor never saw the field again, you know, because for the Los Angeles Chargers there. He would then go to the Giants, and it would be a whole thing. But, like, what Herbert got thrown into and the way he handled it was awesome. But then what if the Chargers? Nah, they can't. Everybody's saying they can't.

They're going to be better. They're going to be better. Wait, whose division are they in? I like Harbaugh. You got a franchise quarterback in Harbaugh. They're going to be better. They're definitely going to be better. And Jesse Minter.

We're talking about Wink going, you know, being D.C. for Michigan. We watched that defense back-to-back weeks in the playoffs. That's like good. Yeah. It's a fucking manly league. AJ, how about Wink going to Michigan? And I know you're an Ohio State guy.

I got a couple messages from people from Ohio State from what we were talking about yesterday where we said, what if Ohio State loses to Michigan this year with new head coach,

loses court like that? With this year being the most talented roster, you got Urban Meyer and Trestle coming out saying, yeah, damn, I wish I had this roster. This is the best team ever.

Those guys obviously both won national championships with Ohio State. They're like, this is the best team of all time. And then what's Michigan? Well, Michigan, they've lost their entire team. They won the national championship. They got a new head coach. It's like that Michigan team, Wink Martindale being their D.C., that's a big deal.

I think that is a massive deal up there in Michigan. Do you agree with that? Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a huge deal. And like D-Bud said, we got to see that defense play in person two weeks in a row. And, I mean, I still tell people about how physical they were, how, like, gap sound, the fundamentals.

Like, they seem like they were coached up the right way. And, obviously, we know Wink is the guy that will hold dudes accountable and he'll attack people. Like, it'll be fun to watch. Well, and how about Sharon? that will hold dudes accountable, and he'll attack people. Like, it'll be fun to watch. Well, and how about Sharon, who just, what, he huddled and shifted the Bama team just into complete confusion.

And I have a note, Saban told us it was the first team we played against a team that came out of the huddle. And it's like, I just didn't even know what to do when they're coming out of the huddle. And then all of a sudden, shift, and then shift, and then we got to drag wide open, touchdown in the Rose Bowl right in front of our face. It's like, Sharon was a massive piece of that entire thing oh yeah you know so it's like i don't i don't know not a lot of chatter about the old maize and blue i believe is what they oh yeah decide to

call it their colors i mean but that whole like oregon's gonna be fucking nasty how about night just saying you got whatever you want? That's right. And now they're in the Big Ten. Dan McIntosh, the head coach of Oregon, gets a blank check from Phil Knight. Yeah. And he just said, whatever you need, dude, just do whatever you got to do.

That's going to help. Yeah. Because they used to have the advantage with Nike being there. So like back in our day, guys would look at the pictures of what Oregon's locker room looked like. And they're like, you get free what from Nike if you go to Oregon? Everything.

You get free a new shoe. Look at all the gloves. They get as many gloves as they want. Like, that's what we would all do. These guys got four different helmets. They got 14 different jerseys. Look at the cleats. It's like that was the NIL benefit before money was allowed to be given out.

And now Phil Knight heard from Laney, like, they don't want shoes anymore. We got to give them the shoes. Like, nah, these guys just want bags of money. All right, fuck it. We'll give them Nike bags of money then. Just open up those McDonald's bags that watch his face. With Bill and Jeremy Pruitt. Jeremy Pruitt down in Tennessee was using just those with Nike bags.

Now they're making Crown Royal bags with Nike checks on them just with cash in them and just dropping them off for people. Oregon's going to be all the way back. Then you think about what the Big Ten is all of a sudden. It's like, wait a minute. And then the SEC. I like that everybody's just taking aim at Texas. Isn't that kind of happening right now?

Yeah. It feels like all the SEC folks are like, these Texas teams think that they're just going to be it. But this ain't the Big 12. Okay? This ain't the Big 12. And they're like, you don't just have a team just wandering in on a week. This is the SEC right now. It's like, what if Texas just have a team just wandering in on a week. This is the SEC right now. It's like, what if Texas does go

in there? Well, that's what Texas is saying. Oh, yeah? Because we went into Alabama last year and fucking dominated them. So I think we'll be just okay. And we're returning a lot of guys. And our D-line average is 397 pounds. Yeah, a lot of D-line. And they all run four twos. How about how big they were? That team that Sark put together?

Oh, yeah. Watching them in warm-ups, I'm like, who are these guys? Even dudes that are in the three-deep looked like they would take all pros. It was crazy. You talk about us at that Rose Bowl game getting to see Michigan. I completely forgot about that Texas-Alabama game

that we were in. That was the first thing we all noticed was the size of Texas. Oklahoma, too. At's like, that was the first thing we all noticed was the size of Texas. Oklahoma, too. At the Cotton Bowl, Oklahoma was fucking huge. Huge. I think that is the game. Now, I know you guys are recruiting on the game. Oh, yeah.

Need beef. Big speed is all. I mean, that is college football, seemingly. Number one recruit I went after was a left tackle. Guys are getting bigger. See, that's not what I'm talking about. He's talking about beef. Yeah, but I'm talking about in positions where athleticism,

not that left tackle is not. Edge rushers. Edge rushers are so big and long now in college. Think about those 2D tackles. Who were the 2D tackles? Sweat. It might have been Campbell. 93, I thought.

I remember. Fucking, like, the biggest human being I've ever seen in my entire life. We walk by, we sit down, they're doing D-line drills, and we just go, did we know these fucking things were on this? Did we know that this existed on this team? And then, lo and behold, Texas would do their thing, the Bama that day. Have a blast. What's going to happen with Arch Manning?

He's playing. I think at some point. Quinn's like the guy, right? Quinn's going to be the NFL guy right after this year. Very, very, very good. So Arch is next year then. That's what everybody's just expecting. I'm praying Arch plays. I like Quinn Ewers. There's nothing against him.

I mean, the guy used to have a mullet. It's not like I hate Quinn Ewers. Is there a mullet championship going on? Yeah, mullet championship for Jared Allen's foundation. I believe the registration just closed. But I think it's starting up like round one, round two coming up here soon. Good luck to all the mullet championship competitors, AJ. Maybe AJ's trying to get in on his new hair.

Should he? New look. Jared Allen, he's still rocking a sweet mullet, I would imagine. I assume. He's the Allen. He's still rocking a sweet mullet. I would imagine. He's the man. He's the best. How about him riding a horse on turf doing his Ring of Honor thing? And then his retirement. Yeah.

Yeah. He'd ride off into the sunset. Oh, yeah, yeah. On the ranch. On the ranch, yeah. That's awesome. You seen a mullet? No, I have not. Did you watch season one or are you talking just season two? I haven't watched any. I've not seen season one have not did you watch season one are you talking just season two i thought i haven't watched any i've not seen season one i've not seen season one i've only seen season one season two when i do watch me too season one's great better than season two i still haven't

finished season two i'll probably do that tonight season one is very good you locked in on who the mole is right now how many episodes you got left uh so I watched the first batch, and then they, what, it was five? They did five and five, right? I don't know. Yeah, I think it's ten altogether. Okay, yeah. So I still have five to go. I have some suspicions.

We talked about them the other day. I think we're kind of in line. They really take it on a ride. That's a good show. Yeah. Netflix does well with those. Oh, yeah. Squid Games, obviously that one.

Is it cake? Yep. That's a good show. Last chance here. And the mold is like it's real people it's not like actors correct okay uh they they go to like a sick place i think they're in malaysia malaysia they're traveling around malaysia like these you're learning about i would like to take a trip to malaysia seems like it's probably forever away would have to probably do

a lot of things to get there oh yeah beautiful scenery though they're, though. They got them running. It's a good show. Netflix does well with those shows. Yeah. Once again, those people are making no money. No. Okay, because they're getting an opportunity to be on said show. But then if you can kind of propel off of that to make your own money, that's kind of the setup for these reality things.

Yeah. I like those game shows a lot. Oh, yeah. I like them a lot. Mr. Beast is still on. Yeah, with all the tubers. All the creators, yeah. I think that's going's gonna be great have you ever seen the circle circles classic netflix hits yeah oh yeah high clip i know what they're doing you're seeing any of these aj you've seen the circle not the

circle no i have not what is the circle circles like uh it's like a social media game pretty much where you're only conversating with people through messaging apps and there's like catfishing people and everything like that you vote people oh yeah i did it's a good show it's a good show you're talking about the the the you know the square the shape comes at you and you got to try to contort your body to get through the shape okay hole in the wall you're talking about there we go that's you take some mushrooms sit down watch hole in the wall you're gonna have one of the greatest nights of your life that you will remember forever. I'm living proof of that. I spent three hours watching Hole in the Wall

on some mushrooms one night in Morgantown, West Virginia, and boy, I don't think I've ever cried that much from laughing ever. I don't know if I ever will. Those producers were bad people. Oh, yeah. Those producers were bad, bad people. And smart. In 20...

This was the first episode. It got me hooked. This is all I've seen of it. That was the first episode that I saw. She almost gets it. She gave a good effort. Close. She almost had it.

Oh, no. There's water? Cyber bully. You don't want to end up in that water. You don't want to... And I appreciate... That was the first contestant? That was my first episode watching.

Like that was, I just happened upon it, sat down, booms are starting to kick in. And then I see this lady and I've never seen the show before in my life. And I see that wall get unveiled. And I'm just.

Her face when she saw the shade. That was real. She should have been suing. There was competitive disadvantage. Times that they picked for her to lose. Oh, yeah. I mean. What are we doing, man?

Come on. Who's fucked up? There's some real talent. There were some people on that game show. Got it done. Sweet. And the wall went around them. And they survived it

was like damn I was a good play was really good play and then there was somewhere it was like this big you just get people like like this and just boom we don't like this guy get him out that lady had no shot no I didn't leave the house I think that was good move you know you lose house those things you don't know what's gonna happen that's right so shout the hole in the wall shows dead I don't know where it's at. They should bring that back. Netflix. Yes. Yeah, it's on you. American Gladiators should be brought back. Minute to Win It should be brought back.

Global Guts should be brought back. Yeah. What's the Purple Barracudas? Ooh, Legends of the Hidden Temple. That should be brought back. Yeah. Got a lot of opportunity. You guys watch Fear Factor? I did watch a little bit i did watch fearfactor rogan was good on it he's good he had enough spice and pizzazz oh yeah but

also understood that what was happening was absurd yep it was good he was a good host on that show did you watch it yeah watch that would you did you want to participate on it absolutely not yeah i mean never never no one spiders snakes roaches bull semen and stuff. No one's doing that. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to drink dong water, but how about when they put people underwater? Oh, yeah. I'm not a big, like, hey, go to a place. Or the snakes on top of you.

They put snakes on top of you and they're saying, I'm not doing that. Yeah, there's something you get in there. You fill out a questionnaire, like, what are you scared of? And then you've got to play the game and lie there. But then what you're lying about is they're going to put you in you gotta say nothing i'm not scared of him yeah and then they're like all right we got snakes underwater you can't breathe two minutes do you want do you want ten thousand bucks from

eating bologna if you want a good show dealer no deal island was really good i didn't see that it just wrapped up it was howie host who was host of that uh it's someone else but howie does uh pop in at one point. Howie, man, did a hell of a run. Yeah? Yeah. He's still in America's Got Talent. Was that Manganiello? Wasn't it Joe?

Joe Manganiello? Yeah, he was. Recently single, I believe. Pittsburgh man. Jacked. Pies on. Love that. All right, let's get the hell out of here.

What a day. Tomorrow will be better. Oh, yeah. Tomorrow's going to be great. Definitely. Open starts tomorrow. Holy shit, golf's on tomorrow. Yeah.

Roll chain. That's right, mate. Will that be super early for us? Like, it will be like at 3 Eastern a.m.? Like, what's the time change like? Yeah, six hours ahead is good. Although, I want to say, I think Tyg tees off at like 8.30 maybe, 9. A.M.?

Eastern, yeah. Oh, sweet. But, yeah, I know Rory goes off at like 3.30 a.m. Yeah, 1.35 a.m. Oh, Rory's back? What's that, Gump? Played good last week. Yeah, he know Rory goes off at like 3.30 a.m. Yeah, 1.35 a.m. Oh, Rory's back? What's that, Gump? Played good last week. Yeah, he was in it.

Coverage starts tomorrow. USA and NBC. I like that USA has become just like a sports channel for NBC. You know, it's become their kind of thing. And also Monday Night Raw. Used to have, you know, a guy who's in jail right now who I legitimately miss in my life. What was his name? Todd Chrisley.

Oh. America needs the Chrisleys. Back. Yeah. Can we get that guy out of jail? One of them was back last night. What? Yep.

Who? The daughter, I believe. Really? She was at the game? Not the game. All right, G believe. Really? She was at the game? Not the game. All right, Gump. Sounds like Gump saw something. AJ, you probably know.

Sounds like you know. Figuring the game. No. What you're doing. Gump's being all coy about it. What's he doing? He makes us think something's wrong. Yeah, anytime Gump says something, though, there is a second meaning behind it.

I liked Chrisley family. I got a chance to meet them on the street one time. Oh, yeah. Natty in New Orleans. After the night. Yeah, they were were all that was the borough Natty yeah bingo we were running out there trying to get out head down head down and then we run into a a group of people who are doing the same thing boom Todd Chrisley's right here holy I you do great work very nice to meet you and son Chase I think is the name Matt Chase nice to meet you guys dude I watch a lot of TV and then they didn't know who the hell we were and then they got 15 steps away oh that's

that and me and foxy were already gone down the street it was like two ships passing in the night and now one of those ships is in prison that's right it's been sunk damn irs will get you they both went i thought his wife and he went yeah did they separate times right yeah i don't know what i thought he got like seven years i thought if it's short time they would and she got some I thought his wife and he went. Yeah, did they? Separate times, right? Yeah, I don't know. But I thought he got like seven years. I thought if it's a short time, they would. And she got some long time too, I think. What was it?

It was fraud, right? They were adjusting bank notes. Yeah, tax fraud. That's a reality show show. That'd be pretty bad to get that many years. You're doing a lot. We've done a lot of reality show conversation about how the money is never really what it seems. What was the mafia one? Was it Mob Wives? Is that the name of the show?

I believe you're talking about the New Jersey Housewives. There was a show called Mob Wives. There was a Mob Wives show. There are a couple in jail, I think, for that. For fraud of some sort. Gotta take care of your chickens.

Let's get the hell out of here. Remember when D-Bud just got up and left? I did. I was off. I've had to piss since 1.30. Yeah, we didn't take a break. Thought the show was over an hour ago, by the way. In my head, I'm like, I think we're done. Then we had to pick our Super Bowl champions.

Congrats to the Chiefs. Congrats to the Jets. Congrats to the Eagles. Congrats to the Chiefs. Congrats to the Jets. Congrats to the Eagles. Congrats to the Ravens. And congrats to Patrick Mahomes. He's playing NCAA 2K college football 2025

right now. He's going to be watching the Olympics one week from now. And he's going to be beginning a journey to a three-peat of a Lombardi that has never been done before. Could you imagine they do that? Just all the while, everything that's going on around them is happening. You know?

Not shock me. Not surprise me. It's insane, isn't it? That they are who they are already at this standpoint. In this time. It's so difficult to do that right now, too, I think. With how the movement and everything. Just how tough it is to continue.

Just to go back to back is unreal. You've got to get lucky, obviously, health-wise. But all the distractions that could be, you know, biggest ever probably. The biggest ever distractions potentially with the amount of eyes, doesn't matter. Just Ohio, fuck, locked in. Patrick Mahomes, different animal. He's having another child, I believe. Yeah, nice. I believe him and Brittany have announced. Oh't matter. Just Ohio, fuck, locked in. Patrick Mahomes, different animal. He's having another child, I believe.

He and Brittany have announced. But that's a whole nother... Lost one of the best wide receivers in football. I know this conversation gets some people fired up, but didn't have the greatest wide receiver room. Still just figure it out.

Good for them. Alright right i like the chiefs obviously odds aren't favorite a little bit of a boring thing let's get the hell out of here hey what a day be a friend tell a friend something oh yeah you should buy your ticket to seek hey we got a big update for seeking okay i don't know i was gonna mean you can say it for now this is stupid this is I don't know. I love SeatGeek. We love SeatGeek. If you're going to go to any live event ever, you buy your tickets through SeatGeek because they're looking out for you.

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Now, marketing company Stooge. Right. Ian. But, like, with the promo code game, I think across all boards, it's about to really get interesting. Oh, yeah. Because your phone will just tell you, hey, you want 30 bucks off? Yeah. It's just the best code. And it's like to really get interesting oh yeah because your phone will just tell you hey you want 30 bucks off yeah it's just the best code and it's like that's that's good ai yeah we like we like that we gotta find our way around that huh well well they do i'm saying we as a humanity we as people yeah still people are using it. Too many people are using the promo code.

Is what we're hearing, which is the goal, I thought. But is it, you know, like there's a whole thing going on. We're hemorrhaging cash here, okay? I don't think that's. No, they didn't say that. It was my words, but. It did feel like that's the way it was coming across. Oh, yes, it did. It's like, well, you give a promo code so people use promo code, right?

Yeah, but it's not the right people using it. Well are they what does that mean who are the people that use it well it's people that are looking for promo codes it's like so isn't that about to happen hadn't that always been and then that only gonna that's ai working for you that's right i think you probably didn't ask your friend like hey what's how much can i and it would just play well here's probably an app that shows it i think yeah nick actually told us he's had the app for years. He's like, now it's even more sophisticated. It just pops up on his phone. What do you want to do?

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Play action with one ball. Throw the other. Oh! Kind of all over it. I am. Arms sore, too. Back rim. Yeah.

I got the... Is it getting any better? It is, yeah. It's kind of drying up. Yeah, it looks better. It's drying up. That's so weird. Is it the claws of a little animal?

I don't know. I legitimately don't know. Wow. I don't know. No, you said internet's loose.. Is it the claws of a little animal? I don't know. I legitimately don't know. Wow. I don't know. No, you said internet's loose. I figured it out. I thought the same thing. That's why I showed it on the show.

Nobody. Not even at doctors. Normally, if there's something that is potentially life-threatening, people will say, like, hey, you should get that checked. Yeah. Oh, so you're good. You're good then. That's right.

That's how I'm viewing it. Yeah. That's why I didn't put anything on it. Fucking A. What a joke. That's how I'm viewing it. Yeah, that's why I didn't put anything on it. Fucking A. What a joke. Let's get out of here. I'm embarrassed. Back rim first one.

You're never destined after that. You're kind of fucked. Oh. Oh. Coach Dutch, not much of a motivator, huh? Yeah, he's 5'4". He's a realist, motherfucker. Oh, my God. 5'4", He's a realist, motherfucker. Oh, my God.

5'4", 2A. 5'6", 2A. That's why we're 11-0. Ooh. As a one seed heading to a natty. Boo! Nice. Shouldn't have thrown that one.

Why'd I throw that one? Yeah. Shouldn't have thrown the last. Didn't even get to enjoy it. Yep. Now I'm on a missing streak again. It's been a good day. Good graveyard. Alright, we'll be back tomorrow.

I'm going to go play some NCAA 2K 2005. How about Patrick Mahomes? I've got to play NCAA. Got to play NCAA. Great marketing for them. How did NCAA allow their name to just get right out of it?

Begins and ends right there. It does. I was going to say, yeah, they usually make the right decision. All right. On that note, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me.

Hey, we got a big show tomorrow. Huge. Huge. Sheffler tees off at 10-10. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Bye-bye.