The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 117 - Undefeated NFL QB, Duck Hodges, & Recap Magic.. Last Zito Ad Read Ever? What A Day

Episode Date: October 15, 2019

On today’s show, Pat and the boys are joined by Pittsburgh Steelers starting Quarterback, all-time FCS passing yards leader, and Junior World Duck Calling Junior Champion, Devlin “Duck” Hodges. They discuss his rise from practice squad player to 3rd string QB, to 2nd string QB, to eventual starter, and what that process has been like. He chats about the atmosphere in LA against the Chargers and all his thoughts pregame, his punting days in college at Samford, he answers some questions from around the room, and gives a little taste of his duck calling prowess (2:28-32:38). The guys also cover everything that happened over the weekend in the NFL including the blueprint on beating the Chiefs being out, the issues surrounding the Browns and who might be the cause for blame, the Cowboys falling apart and Jerry Jones deciding to back Jason Garrett. Pat also asks the guys who they would rather have in a backyard football game, Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota, they discuss a rough flight back from New York, and Pat and Todd elaborate on their cars breaking down and possibly being done for. It’s a fun one, come and laugh with us. Cheers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Have a conversation with a man who potentially has the best nickname in the history of nicknames. Sunday Night Football quarterback. Undefeated NFL quarterback, old Devlin Ducky Hodges. Just Duck Hodges. He gave us some incredible insight, not only in the duck calling world, but also in the quarterback world of the

NFL. Life that isn't all glitz and glamour. What it's like to be a fourth string, then a third string, then a second string, then a starter in the NFL, all within the first six weeks of an NFL season as a true rookie. It was an awesome conversation. Very thankful he came and joined us.

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He's a champion in many things, and now he can officially say that he is an undefeated NFL starter on Sunday night. He won into Los Angeles with the Pittsburgh Steelers and went out of there with a victory. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Devlin Ducky Hodges. Oh, man. That's good stuff. Ducky, how did it feel? Your dream, I assume, your entire life was to be a a duck call national

champion you became that and also an nfl starter and due to circumstances that we'll talk about in the future here in a little bit you became a starter went into los angeles and had a great game and got a chance to win what did it feel like walking out of los angeles um honestly i i don't know if i can put a word on it um i mean it's definitely amazing like you said it's a it's a dream come true um the past past month or two has been wild and uh just to be in a situation a situation i'm in and uh just to be able to get the win uh it's amazing it's a blessing well mason rudolph had to almost die for you to get in the game. That was a scary situation.

One of the scariest hits I've ever seen. When I was playing, Austin Colley caught one of those at Philadelphia. It really rattles everybody. But you just had to walk in there and just act like it didn't happen and not even blink. You kind of went in there. What was your mindset whenever you had to take the field after that insane situation where the cart was broke, fucking guy had a face mask off the whole situation um i mean it was wild uh

stepping in the huddle i think the first thing i told the receivers though is hey you know i'm about to sling sling it around and uh i was i was uh i was confident i was calm um i think i think i told some people i think the first first third down that i was in i think i checked the protection and threw a comeback and uh you know after that i was like hey let's go let's go you know we got a chance to win this game let's let's go win it and uh you know that preparation is everything you know i feel like uh i mean i knew the game plan um i knew everything we were wanting to do and um just going there, having that confidence, and getting a shot to do what I did was awesome.

Okay, so Ben Roethlisberger has a battle with Tommy John in the wrong sport. Then Mason Rudolph, and then you're the backup to there. The whole entire setup here with the Pittsburgh Steelers this entire season has been riddled with like adversity I mean the wide receivers coach passes away in training camp I mean he goes down Ben Rosberg goes down that Mason goes down how has the team been able to keep it together and what has Tomlin's message been to you guys um I think I think the biggest thing is some of those veteran guys you know like Pouncey and Ramon Foster and then on defense you know you got Joe Hayden TJ

Watt I mean those guys are keeping everyone together. I mean, yeah, even though we've had all this adversity and whatnot, Tom's message is, hey, if you're a part of this 53-man roster, if you're a part of this team, that means you can get the job done. So it's got to go out there each and every day, get better, practice, execute, and do whatever it takes to win on sunday or monday or thursday whatever day we play on in america england mexico yeah yeah the um the afc north is very much still a big question mark the steelers have everything in front of them i think

it's that was a huge win in los angeles absolutely huge win for you guys now let's dive back a little bit to the legend that is ducky is that people just call you ducky uh i mean i think it's more just duck but ducky's cool whatever like ever since you're i answered the call to anything so okay because you were a world junior champion i believe in duck calling which by the way tough competition how did you get involved is that just something everybody does in alabama um no it's uh i mean i grew up hunting deer hunting and whatnot and started duck hunting and i'm like super competitive and found out that

they had duck calling contest and was like hell i'm gonna i'm gonna get in one and then i entered my first one when i was like eight or nine and won it i mean it was the junior division uh but i mean i won the contest and then started going all these other contests and i mean 10 years old winning like a hundred dollars a weekend at a duck con contest you know i thought i was a millionaire yeah i just kind of i kept doing that and then uh you know ended up winning that world championship and a couple of alabama state championships here and there and uh yeah that's that's kind of how how it happened have the duck dynasty folks reach out to you at all uh no they haven't they haven't oh they sold out this would have been something i

think back in the day like whenever they were first starting out before they got any rich i think they would have been calling you immediately especially because the old man is a quarterback beat terry bradshaw for a spot they love the duck calls i would assume that'd be a perfect sponsorship for you yeah i don't know what it is maybe maybe they maybe they know i'm a better duck caller than duck caller than them i don't know what is the key to a good duck call um man a lot of people ask me that question and shoot honestly i don't know i feel like it's just it's just something some people some people can do and some people can't i mean there's a certain kind of cadence you gotta say into the into the call because i mean you actually a call. You don't just use your mouth. Actually, I got one right here. Are you on?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. All right. This could be a little loud, but I'll just give a little something. Let me turn it down. I don't want you to blow up my ears. Got it? All right.

You good? Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, what you just heard was a multi-time, multi-time, multi-time Alabama state champion duck caller, Ducky Hodges. Do you have one of those around you at all times? I mean, as many as I got, yeah. Yeah, I usually got somewhere in reach. So like a training camp this year, whenever it was found out that you were a a duck caller I assume this was every night people were making you do it Um, so actually actually no I had one in my bag waiting for you someone to make me do it never did

We I was gonna do it, you know, I was like the rookie show whatever and we ended up not having it cuz coach passed away So this there's still a lot of people that have yet to kind of hear me on the duck call so that's something i need to i probably need to do here soon for the team jeez if i was on that team i just want to let you know i would have googled as soon as you showed up i would have been like tom you know this motherfucker is a walking duck like he actually sounds like a duck that was uh an incredible call now granted i have no idea what the competition looks like. I assume you could go win a senior championship today if you had to in duck calling. Yeah, maybe so.

When I was back home during that little month we had off in between OTAs and camp, there was actually a duck calling contest about a couple hours away from my house. And it's funny because I didn't know about it until like two days before the contest i didn't i actually didn't have my calls my buddy had all my calls because he was wanting to practice and all this and i was like hey meet me there and ended up winning it that was a nice thousand dollar payday and i said thanks for coming out you know we'll see y'all later. Okay, so paint the picture for me. Somebody who is from Pittsburgh, born and raised. Not a lot of duck call contests happening around Pittsburgh.

I don't know if our ducks are just dumb or not, but there's not a lot of contests happening. So you get there, and you stand up on like a stage, and then there's just like three professional duck callers sitting down there judging you like a pageant? Or how does it work? Yeah, kind of like that so yeah you got a stage and then um i believe there's five judges and they're kind of they're in the back like they can't see you oh it's like the voice yeah yeah yeah in a way they're in the back kind of behind a curtain and uh i think they do it i think they like don't want the judges seeing them because like many judges know people that are calling and all that and don't want to like rig the score up so um yeah you're on the stage you got 90 seconds to uh do like your routine and for the most part i mean everyone's kind of doing like the same

base thing uh you know people might mix it up slightly here and there and then i mean yeah you're i hate to say it but i mean mean, you're blowing for five judges in 90 seconds. And the best blow is you'll get the job done. What an interesting thing to be, like, elite at. Like, you know what I mean? There's not a lot of people that are elite at things. He just happens to be an NFL quarterback and an elite blower into a goddamn duck call.

That's absolutely incredible all right so let's talk about you playing football you went to Samford was that the that's in Alabama right Samford is in Alabama yeah yeah it is closest to home that's why you went there or did nobody really give you a peek um actually Samford was probably my uh smallest offer had you know their FCS I had a bunch of like sunbelt conference usa schools um committed to southern miss for a while and then just ended up going to sanford because yeah i mean close to home was one reason um i thought it was a place i could go play early and uh they uh they had just won a southern conference championship and southern miss i just went 0 and 12 so i want to go somewhere

where i could you know win some football games. I went there. I didn't have a clue about the Walter Payton Award or breaking Steve McNair's record. I didn't have any idea about any of that. I just went there and tried to ball out each and every week. Then four or five years later, here I am. By the way, rest in peace, Steve McNair. Rest in peace, Steve.

Let's have a moment or so recipe Steve McNair recipe Steve let's have a moment of silence for Stephen there who broke somebody broke Steve McNair what about Walter legend and Walter Biden sorry thank you sorry the sweetness sorry uh recipes for both of them. Whenever you were coming out, did you get invited to the Combine? Did not. Did not.

So you break all these records at FCS school, and they just say, you know what, this guy, they call him Doc. He's got a great arm he can throw, but didn't play against any competition, so you kind of had to earn it through your pro day. Is that how it went? I mean, i guess so uh and it was definitely uh are you a true rookie right now yeah so this was just months ago the you weren't good enough to go to the combine as what the nfl scout said and then the steelers what did

they work you out and then they just brought you in is that how it went down um so the steelers called me about 20 minutes after the draft and said hey you know we're not we don't want to sign you as a free agent but we want to bring you into the rookie mini trial and then um so I went there but actually the weekend before the Steelers I went to the Giants rookie mini camp um kind of kind of knowing that they weren't going to sign me I mean they had drafted Daniel Jones and they had already signed a free agent quarterback. I wanted to get an idea of what the mini camp would be like and then went to the Steelers, and they told me on Sunday, hey, we're going to sign you. We'll keep you here for OTAs and take you to camp.

What has it been like adjusting to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, being fresh out of Alabama? Yinzers are a special breed. Yeah, it's different. It's different, no doubt. Did you experience, I guess this is just coming out now, the Chargers players are not happy that the stadium played. Did they play sticks renegade going into the fourth quarter?

Yes, they did, and then turned it off immediately. That place felt like a home game for you guys, I bet, though, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, I think that stadium sat like 30,000, and there had to be at least 20,000 Steelers fans. I mean, it was insane. I mean, we went on our cadence the whole time. I think at times I might have tried to calm the crowd down

because there was so many Steelers fans. Those Chargers players have got to be so fucking pissed. When Stick starts playing, do the beginning of it, please. Oh, mama, I've been here all my life. I'm the son of the law. Some yinzer who lives in L.A. is like, oh, shit. I haven't been able to do this in so long. Get the terrible towel, honey.

Chargers players are like, what the fuck is going on? What a moment for you, man. That is so cool you got your first start on Sunday Night Football, primetime television. That is awesome. I mean, before the game, what was the thoughts going in? You were just calm, cool, and collected, huh? Yeah. I definitely was.

I mean, it was definitely, you know, knowing that Sunday night football, I knew there was going to be a lot of people watching. I know there's a bunch of gatherings back home. It was just awesome to be able to kind of put my city on the map and represent kind of where I'm from. I mean, it was a hell of a time. I great great first win great first start yeah how's the family

feel about this whole thing because i've always said this that when you see a rookie or you see somebody debut it's not just their dream coming true by the way it's their family it's their parents it's their dad who has set aside so much time to train the person like that is a lot of people's dream coming true i assume a lot of people's dream coming true. I assume a lot of people back in Alabama were losing their shit. Oh, yeah, absolutely. My parents actually ended up flying out to the game, so they were there. My college roommate was there, and then one of my other best friends.

I mean, yeah, they were losing their shit. I think my dad has texted me today like five times. Like, dude, that's the coolest thing a father can ever see. So, man, dude, so awesome, really. I mean, what a great time, great experience. So much fun. Does your dad look awesome? Is your dad a legendary character?

My dad has got double-sleeved tats, full chest, full back. I mean, yeah, he's legendary. Oh, man. We interrupt this incredible conversation with Mr. Duck to let you know that if you're sleeping on a bed that isn't a Lisa mattress, you're doing it wrong. Lisa is the incredible mattress company that took the process that is terrible out and decided to go right to your doorstep with an incredible most comfortable delightful mattress available and you might be thinking to yourself pat i'm

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Hell of an outing. Did you know going in the game plan was like, hey, James Conner's an absolute beast. Let's go ahead and feed him. Let's let this offensive line work. And then let old duck Hodges get loose if he has to. Is that kind of the game plan going in? You guys executed it perfectly.

Yeah, yeah, definitely. We just knew with what they did, James was going to be able to have a good night. We knew that we were going to be able to run the ball good. Melvin Ingram didn't play, so that helped the offensive line get a good push. When it was my turn to convert a third down or get loose, we executed it. You wear that bandaid that's like a sleeve type thing. You got like a sleeve type thing.

Is that kind of something you've always worn? Yeah, yeah. It's something I've always had on ever since college. There's no really reason why I wear it. I'm a big hat guy, so I guess I got to have something on my head. Hey, that Hoover High School down there, whenever we were growing up, they had that high school show. What was it called?

Two Days. Two Days. Two Days. All them sons of bitches had that swoop haircut down there, whenever we were growing up, they had that high school show. What was it called? Two Days. Two Days. All them sons of bitches had that swoop haircut down there. Oh, yeah. Not for me. Not for me. That's awesome. What town are you from in Alabama?

Kimberly. Where the hell is that? Like 20 minutes north of Birmingham. Oh, nice, man. Good for Kimberly for creating a legend in Duck Hodges. Hey, The Room, we have some diehard Steelers fans. Do you mind if they ask you some questions? Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Go ahead, Diggsy. First off, I just want to say thank you for everything you've done and getting the win because I was taking a lot of shots at a lot of other teams yesterday before the game. He was. And you saved me a lot of backlash. But other than that, you mentioned Southern Miss,

and a lot of people are saying it. I'm saying it, that you're the next Brett Favre. Is there a quarterback that you looked up to while you were younger? Yeah, it was actually him. Yep, knew it. Easy guess, easy guess. I mean, him being from Mississippi and kind of just going out there, being a gunslinger, I mean, yeah, definitely looked up to him.

Now, granted, all day today he's been talking about you being Brett Favre, and he's been spelling Brett with one T. So Diggs has literally no idea what he's talking about. That's a subtle shot at Brett just to promote Duck. Oh, I got you. I got you. Frankie Boyd. In the world we live in today, Duck, there's a whole cancel thing going on

where people look up old people's tweets and they try and find something damaging about them. Yeah, what's this shit about the Penguins, Duck? I almost, I'm going to die. Listen, I'm from Pittsburgh. Don't like the Pirates because the Pirates stink. Always have stunk. You're a Pittsburgh Steeler now.

You'll learn this, that the Nutting family is just stealing from the city of Pittsburgh with that Pirate team. PNC Park is beautiful. It's a great place to get drunk and watch a game, but you're never going to cheer for the Pirates. The Pittsburgh Penguins, though, Duck. The Pittsburgh Penguins, though, are sacred names around the city of Pittsburgh. And we seen it.

I seen it with my own eyes. We saw it. So I just wanted to say, here's a chance for you on record. Can you tell us what that tweet was about? What are you doing, Duck? So my excuse, I was just young and dumb. I think the first thing I tweeted last night after the game was, I think I tweeted, I don't hate the Penguins anymore.

Good move. I saw someone, actually, Mikey from the Freak Show in Pittsburgh, looked up the date of your tweet, and it was when the Penguins beat the Predators like 6-0. So were you a Preds fan? Yeah, I was. I was a Preds fan. I mean, they're the closest team to my hometown.

And, yeah, when I came up here, you know, I had to switch over. I respect that. Hey, I respect the fact that you're a hockey fan, though. I mean, that's – Yes, yeah. Hockey was the first sport I played. Really? What position?

In Alabama, I swear. Was it ball hockey or was it ice hockey? It was ice hockey. It was ice hockey. Y'all motherfuckers making ice hockey. I swear, believe it or not, ice hockey. Hey, Alabama's got a club team. What were you?

I think it was left wing. Really? Why didn't you stick with it just there's not enough ice in alabama not enough uh decided to go to football and uh i think that was a good choice yeah i think so not many kids from alabama playing in the fucking nhl it's not a uh it's not a haven of hockey players down there. Todd, you going? Hey, Doc. You seem like a guy that's probably good at everything you ever tried to do. If football wouldn't have worked out or continued after college,

what would you be doing or what would you like to have done? Man, that's a good question. I was actually, you know, week one I got cut and I was at home kind of on my bender. So, I don't know. Honestly, probably get involved in some kind of duck hunting industry or something. Hell, I don't know. What was your major?

Sports administration. Okay. Samford, the Harvard of Alabama that's incredible Zito I'm sure you got something for Duck oh yeah so basically they call you up what's that first thought on your head to get in the game

well I was so I was like they called me back to be on P squad and then I was actually practice squad for people that don't know yeah P squad practice squad I was at the game the first week you know or the game that ben got hurt but i actually i actually had left at halftime because i was in the process of moving like my stuff into my new apartment and whatnot and i walked out of stadium and like checked on twitter and they're like you know ben's out the rest of the game mason rudolph is going in and then i was just like oh my gosh like what what happened and then i like out the rest of the game. Mason Rudolph is going in. And then I was just like, oh, my gosh. Like, what happened?

And then I, like, saw the video of him throwing and, like, holding his arm. I was like, damn, like, that don't look good. And then, yeah, they called me up the next day, said, hey, we're going to bring up the 53 man. And then it was crazy just because, I mean, two weeks before that, I was at my house on the couch just chilling. Definitely glad they called me up and definitely glad I'm where I'm at now. You get that first drink, you're like,

the duck call I can buy. I can get a duck call for this thing. I can get a world champion duck call for this. Absolutely. It's an incredible tie. Duck, so just looking ahead at the schedule for the rest of the season you guys have uh you know some some pretty tough teams in that division everything who's one guy who you kind of just fear that you know about potentially getting smacked in the mouth coming off the edge um man i i the the first person that comes on my mind is uh

michael pierce for the ravens and the only reason that is is my mind is Michael Pierce for the Ravens. And the only reason that is is because I played with him at Sanford. So he's like a refrigerator up front. I mean, he's huge. And I've always kind of practiced against him in college. And he's definitely someone that I don't want falling on me. So, yeah, that's the first guy that comes to my mind. Is there a lot of Sanford dudes in the NFL?

Man, we got four or five. You got me, Michael Pierce for the Ravens. You got Jaquiski Tartt, safety for the 49ers. You got Bradbury, defensive back for the Panthers. And then you got Nick Williams for Chicago Bears. So, I think all five of us this week started. So, there you go. Hey, good for Sanford.

What is it? The Sanford what there you go. Hey, good for Sanford. What is it? The Sanford what? Bulldogs. Oh, good mascot. That's a great mascot. Do you have a live dog out there, or is it just a guy in a costume? Got a costume. Oh, come on.

Come on. Get five guys in the NFL and have some fake on. Come on. Unbelievable. I'll write a letter down there. Were a lot of people trying to talk shit to you this first week since it was your first start? No, honestly not.

Honestly not. No one said anything to me. I was kind of disappointed because I was wanting to kind of get chirpy back with them. Are you a bit chirpy out there? Yeah. Sometimes. It can be. It just all depends.

Phillip Rivers is as well. He tried tossing Mike Hilton off the field. Rivers did last night. I respect that. I saw that. I saw that. That was intense. Tomlin come up to you before you first start sitting in the locker room

before you go out there? Yeah, he came up to me and just said, hey, he said, let your nuts hang and let's go. Oh, wow. I love Tomlin, dude. Tomlin said the same thing to me before my pro day workout down in west virginia i fucking love tomlin's the only reason why i got in the nfl he put me through an entire workout if he didn't do it the scouts weren't going to come down i mean i love mike

tomlin that's why anytime people start bashing him in any uh egregious fashion or whatever tomlin big words i get upset about it i love Well, he doesn't live in his fears. He doesn't live in his fears. Obviously. People are talking about trading him to the head coach. People are talking about trading the head coach to the Redskins. What a death sentence that would be for Tomlin. Tomlin doesn't deserve that.

Foxy, great question, I assume. Similar question. I just wanted to know if Big Ben had anything to say. Oh, there we go. For a start. I mean, Ben's always kind of been on my side, always had my back. I think during camp he told the media that he really enjoyed watching me and I was fearless.

So he just told me to get out there and have fun, kid, and just play ball. And I love it. Duck, I'm so happy for you, man. I have no idea what's going to happen for the rest of the season for the Pittsburgh Steelers and for you, but you will forever have that moment on Sunday Night Football where you led one of the most storied franchises in NFL history to a win on primetime television, your first ever start, representing the Sanford man and a mascot, Bulldogs. Oh, we got a shirt coming your way, too. Hey, have you seen the Duck Hodges shirt?

Yeah, your boy Blaine sent me a picture pretty sweet hey we're sending a bunch over it's it's incredible you literally the best nickname i think i've ever heard my entire you're a human duck i appreciate it i appreciate it hey can we get that thousand dollar call on the way out here that you won right before we get out there uh yeah yeah we'll see what we do can you you give that call the $1,000? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want another one? Yeah, hold on.

Hey, let's act like it is the voice like this duck contest. We're sitting behind a curtain. And we are judging this strictly off of my duck dynasty knowledge. Blow for us. He said, Hey, blow for us dog. What is it? Hold on, is it 1-10? It can be today, yeah

Can be today, 1-10 What is it in the thing? Man, it's like I think like 70-80 Something high Why? 1-10 Yeah, it's like the QBR

It's like the QBR in there Nobody knows what it means Alright, ladies and gentlemen From Samford, undefeated starting NFL quarterback Devlin Duck Hodges. Oh! Oh, shit! Oh!

Did you see them ducks come flying in? Those ducks just came flying on the pond right there. Good luck with everything, man. I can't thank you enough for your time today. I hope you enjoy every moment of this, man. This has not happened to a lot of humans. I hope you know that. And I can't thank you enough for joining us, ladies and gentlemen.

Live from his apartment with a jersey hung over. Whose jersey is that? It's my roommate. He played here in Pitt. Who? My boy Colton Lively, Pittsburgh. I don't know him. Tell him I said hello, though.

Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, a man who still has a roommate. That is what we just learned. Devlin Duck Hodges, you're the best. Thank you so much. Hey, you know what I didn't mention is in college, your boy punted a little in college. You were for the brand? I didn't know you were

good for the brand like that. I do have some punts on record, sir. With all pooch kicks? What was that? You lined up like seven yards behind? No, I mean, I got 15 yards back and and punted what happened your guy got hurt so we had a guy um from overseas uh kind of he came he came in and whatnot and um he didn't he didn't have a clue like about football he just knew how to kick like he didn't know the rules

or anything like he played aussie football and so it took him like four or five weeks to learn the game so during those four or five weeks i got punted all right we need you to punt another week this fucking guy hasn't figured it out how'd you do um terrible not snap though that's all that matters Exactly Exactly You're the best Ladies and gentlemen Devlin.com Hey that little

Thing you did Is that with your tongue Or the call No that was with the call That's like a That's like a Little feeding call The duck does

So you just You kind of do it To make it sound like A bunch of ducks On the water Feeding and Getting them in Can you play harmonica

No Thank you Devlin Have a good one bro sound like a bunch of ducks on the water feeding and getting them in can you play harmonica no thank you devlin have a good one bro absolutely appreciate it big thanks to the duck ducky feels like the right nickname but you could also see how in alabama that's probably a bit like oh that's you know what mean? I feel like I learned a lot about the kid in there. I feel like I learned a lot about him in there. Honestly. He was cool. He was calm. He was

incredible on Sunday night. And he has a roommate. Which means he didn't plan on being here for long. And now he's potentially going to be in the league for a while as at least a backup, because if you can showcase that you can win a game in the NFL, and if you can make all the

passes on the P squad to make your defense better, he's going to be in the NFL probably 8-10 years. Look for him to have a long career, especially with his competitive drive, how he seems to be a cool guy. The locker room probably loves him. And goddammit, you got duck calls. Let's keep that guy around. I've been saying it since he first came in. I looked him up and I said it, you got duck calls. Let's keep that guy around. I've been saying it since he first came in.

I looked him up, and I said 15,000 yards in college. I mean, that's nothing to sneeze at. How about him telling the offensive line, hey, you know we're going to sling it now? As soon as he gets in the game. 97% chance my first kid's name is Duck Degilio. Double D. How about that? Can we call him Ducky, though?

Yeah, absolutely. Until he's like 20 Old Uncle Pat You know what I mean The duck man Hey little ducky What's going on guys I'll tell you what You got the size

Of your grandpa Oh no Coach didn't deserve it Coach Jiggs Did he change his name On Instagram No idea I think he changed his name

On Instagram Searching it right now It showed up on my shit It's in the blood we change our names a lot the um i can't thank duck enough for joining us we didn't have a guest scheduled until we landed back here and uh i started talking to digs who wasn't with us in new york about stealer's game and then duck's name came up i was like fuck you think that guy would come on the show turns out he's a fan of the show so it's very nice of him to be a like our show and b to set away or set aside time to join us i feel like the steelers legitimately are still in this thing he's

incredible filling in last minute for anything didn't even blink nope didn't even blink and going in there let's sling it boys yeah whatever you guys want you want me facetime i can do that for you no problem at all shit i don't even have wi FaceTime? I can do that for you. No problem at all. Shit, I don't even have Wi-Fi yet. I can do that for you. I mean. The Steelers are very much still in play, though, in the AFC North. I mean, the Browns.

The Browns. The Browns are in a bad spot. The Browns are in a bad spot. And I said this on Get Up, and I said this on the live show, so I'll say this for a third time today. The Dog Pound had so many hopes and so many dreams and aspirations, and when Russell Wilson got that ball in the fourth quarter, we all knew what was going to happen, right?

Russell Wilson, now granted with the assist of Cleveland Brown penalties, which has been a trait of the Cleveland Browns to uh have a bunch of penalties called on them especially in crucial times like a game winning drive potentially we all knew russell wilson and seattle seahawks were gonna go down there and score we all knew it russell wilson says all the cliche bullshit he does all this he's an mvp career mvp season and everybody thought this was gonna be a browns back bounce back game but as soon as we saw russell wilson get that it doesn't matter how far the back they were we knew he was just going to walk right down the field and score a touchdown and when Baker got the ball on the other side it almost feels like everybody knew he's just going to throw an interception

it almost felt like everybody was like I got no shot here when Russell gets the ball we're like left him too much time yeah Patrick Mahomes gets the ball there you're like left him too much time the Lions did that to him Tom Brady same thing thing drew breeze same thing i would even say jacoby brissett same thing deshaun watson i think is probably getting into that rarefied air and when russell wasn't gonna we're like yep he's gonna do it and then when baker got it nobody knew nobody knew what was gonna happen that was that baker's fault the offense's fault i don't think dog pound gives a fuck who's fault it is they just knew that god damn it we were supposed to win this game and we're just gonna do it who's why would you say this nick no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say it it's pretty kitchens i agree why why wouldn't you

say that nick what is you when i go on record and publicly bury someone or something there's this incredible ability for them to just stuff it in my face and go on this just everlasting run of greatness so i'm just going to... The Washington Capitals, it's been happening to me for a while now. So I'm just going to tone it back a little bit. I'm just going to let this play out. We'll see what happens. You know what he did? He smoked the weed that I gave him the other night.

He got my car, my truck, thankfully. Thank you so much. Rest in peace to my F-150, by the way. Also yours, Todd. Rest in peace to your F-150. And also the car that Nick had to jump across the street. Rest in peace to those f-150 by the way also yours todd rest in peace to your f-150 and also the car that nick had to jump across the street rest in peace to those three cars but my truck was stuck in the middle of a highway during rush hour and i literally only had like 35 minutes until something i had to do next so i couldn't just sit there and wait for these tow companies because in indiana by the way

people just leave their cars on the side of the road they're there for weeks at a time i mean if your car gets broken down on the side of the road whether it it's stolen, a drug car, or somebody's personal car, that sumbitch is staying there for at least a month. I mean, I've seen it with my own eyes. You're lucky if it's on the side of the road, too. Sometimes it's just in the middle of the road. They do that in Indiana. There's no emissions test here.

So everything just, you literally drive that fucker until it's dead here in Indiana. And then once it's dead, you're like, well, somebody will clean that fucker up. We're going to go get a new car. And what happens is nobody cleans that fucker up. And the cars are just sitting there for months at a time. That really happens. And it's almost impressive at this point with Indiana. My truck was going to be one of those cars. It was literally stuck in the middle of the thing. Nick had to come pick me up. And I was like, Nick, listen, I don't have time

for this, especially my schedule. If you can get this truck back to my house in the next 24 hours, I'll give you a thousand bucks. I didn't think it was possible, especially in Indiana. I'm not sure there's even tow trucks out here. I don't even know what happens. He's like, oh, no problem. When was the last time you put oil in that thing? I'm like, three years ago, probably.

No problem. We'll just put oil in the truck. That thing will start right back up. We'll be off and running. Turns out that was not the case. Yeah, no, I thought about it. I was like, you know, I think it's more serious. It was. I was pushing the gas down, by the way.

I was in the middle of the highway driving 60 miles an hour and then just started. The gas is all the way down. Just stop answering. Just stop answering the call. Just stop answering the call. And I'm like, wait a fucking minute now. And that thing goes from 55.

It was almost like our pilot today. Just taking that son of a bitch from 30 000 feet to 10 000 feet that's what my car did from 55 miles an hour down to 20 miles an hour in the middle of traffic and i'm in the middle lane okay so this is what let's call nightmare situation so i'm pushing down the gas this is not doing it i'm like oh boy so i put in a manual i'm like all right i'm gonna fucking jump this bitch into like second gear, third gear. Strong move. Yeah, I'm going to do something, right?

Nothing. It's just not even answering. I put it in neutral. Nothing. I put it back into drive. Nothing. I take it out and blow on it. That's basically what I did, putting it in neutral.

And it's just not answering, right? So I have to put my turn signal on. And I put my arm out the window. Good move. Who's your hospitality? Where was it? People are just, vroom, hospitality where was it people rush out on a friday boy went by me and i'm like oh no no no we're in a bad spot the truck behind me starts to realize how bad of a spot i'm in i think he realizes that this guy is not just flying and then doing nothing for no reason right so he starts even putting the nose of his truck in the

left lane so i can get over and get in the median Somebody almost takes him out. So I like watch him like oh shit So I I swerve back into the middle lane now. I'm down to 12 miles an hour in an Indiana There's not a lot of hills so I don't have a lot of momentum going and I am in a spot where I ain't there's not A median yet, so I still have to drift probably like quarter mile So I'm going like 10 miles an hour and I just pull that some bitch right in front of a smart car i'm like hit me you know what i mean let's fucking do it i feel so bad that i just judge them because they're so small and i rolled that thing and it literally hit zero miles an hour as my tail end got off the highway nice horns flying middle fingers flying i'm like what do you want me to fight obviously it doesn't fucking work what do you want me to find? Obviously, it doesn't fucking work. What do you want? So I just stop there, and I'm sitting there,

and I'm like, here I am. I'm that guy. I'm the guy that we've made fun of forever, and I have 25 minutes until I have to go do something. So I call Nick. Nick's a gentleman, comes, picks me up. I tell him the whole thing. He has to call, what, four tow truck companies?

Yeah, at least. And you know, I offered to help. It wasn't about the money. It was about helping out a friend in need. I tried to refuse the money numerous times to help it wasn't about the money it was about helping out a friend in need i i tried to refuse the money numerous times but it wasn't about the money i gave you the money and then in there as a good gentleman when he got the truck back i gave him a little cone that i'd stuffed from the house nick goes home takes the money forced him to take the money goes home he brought home in like six hours by the way it was unbelievable

i don't know how you do it in indiana there's no excuse he called three different tow truck it should have been an hour but the first tow truck company didn't answer the second one played this game of tag where three to four hours later and i should have expected this from a tow truck company but i didn't i was naive i was like 45 minutes they told me yeah that's gonna happen three hours later oh yeah uh our guy got pulled into a state police issue thing. We can send somebody else or we can refund you. A bunch of tods took him. Yeah.

So I was like, well, what's the ETA? He's like, probably like two hours. Like, no, just give me the money back, man. I'll call someone else. So he calls the third tow truck company. He texts me. He's like, oh, this guy's like the Zito of tow truck drivers. I'm like, I think Zito is a tow truck driver.

I'm surprised you guys didn't call me. I'm a reward member for a certain company that I get free rides. Well, I mean, you were around when the call was made to me, so you could have brought that up. I never knew. That's interesting. I saw the text, and I did the 40

spelling out. All of Indianapolis knew that my truck was broken down. All of Indianapolis knew. I got out of my truck to get into Nick's car, and I took a couple pictures, you know, just to rest in peace, sweet prince. We had a good run. I didn't treat you great, I guess, apparently. I didn't do enough TLC on you to keep you moving longer than you should have,

I guess. Probably should change the oil at least once. Hindsight's always 50-50. Lesson learned. Old Carolina Panthers quarterback said that. Rest in peace. But I was out for probably 25 seconds taking pictures. I got like six tweets.

I was like, Pat, are you dead out there? I saw that. Are you dead out there? I'm like, man, you people are so nice. And I was getting pictures from people driving down the highway later. They're like, still out there. I'm like, well, you should see Frank too. That's something.

Shout out Last Chance Wrecking. If you get stuck and you need to call them because they came in half the time and charged us half the amount. They got rid of my car, too. Did they really? Yeah, they fucking bent me over a barrel and really did me in. But yeah, they got rid of it for me. Showed you the 50 states? Yeah, absolutely.

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And people hate you in the hood when your car can't move. They just don't get it. And this one guy pulls up next to me and starts screaming at me. And I'm like, finally, I'd had it at that point. I've been there like 45 minutes with this going on. So I rolled down my window and I was like what do you want me to do? It's broke down it's not moving you fucking idiot.

And he gave me the finger gun and he goes I'll be back and I was like great fucking murder me. It's going to help everything. Truck died

and Todd died in the same day. Rest in peace. What happened to yours? The set is a starter. Same thing as me though? Because you know what? Mine has the, where it shuts itself off at a stoplight, and it restarts itself when you

hit the gas to save gas, allegedly. So it shut itself off, my starter went out, and it couldn't restart. You know, I would have thought by now Dodge would have reached out to me too. The amount of found on road dead. You would think so. All that shit I tweeted. I honestly thought so. I've liked my truck. I've literally just driven that thing into the ground, I think. You would think so. All that shit I tweeted. I honestly thought so. I've liked my truck.

I've literally just driven that thing into the ground, I think. Good truck. It is a good truck. Good truck. And now we're raffling it off. No, we are not. But I did have a problem. I don't have any of the cars that work.

You have like 10 cars in your driveway. None of them work. See, I could get the car. I just don't have any of the cars that work so you're like 10 cars in your driveway none of them work see i could get the car i just don't have any of the work yeah the tow truck driver when he dropped oh these are some nice cars he's looking at shelby's oh look at this thing oh yeah it doesn't work doesn't work that one right there doesn't work that one that works but that's his fiance's that was a real thing this weekend i had to be a fucking like handyman sam and i were jumping all the cars to see which ones would work turns out a couple of them some bitches dead for good yeah whatever you gave me in that cone uh was dare i say life-altering yeah it feels like you took a little dmt almost yeah i went in deep a little too deep we did the gary goldman thing

on heartland radio the great depression i saw the Joker this weekend. There were a lot of thoughts buzzing around that head. Oh, and you were with that interstellar weed? Yeah. You were just all beside yourself in another dimension, man. Hey, dude, he came to me with a very straight face, aside from everybody. He was like, what did you put in that thing? I was like, what, you think I drugged you, dude? It's just weed.

I was questioning everything about myself. I'm like, Nick, Jesus Christ. Sam and I smoked like an ounce of that a night. You're in a tough spot, huh? Yeah, I guess. I don't know. It was just really, really introspective. Well, then today he shows up.

What's he look like? He looks like he's a 70-year-old man. He's got these gray sweatpants on with his sweatshirt on. These are $70 Adidas athletic leisure pants. Sure. Yeah, they're gray, though. So they're just gray sweats. The only thing you were missing were the old leather moccasins.

With the sweat. And like a piss stain on the front of them. I just came out of the bathroom. I was working out. No, you didn't have that, I see. When I saw you when I got back here today, I was like, is everything fucking all right with Nick, man? Somebody needs to check on that guy.

Mondays, am I right? Were you the one that told me that? That like on Monday, we're in three different states, obviously. Every single Monday, we obviously start in New York, and then we're in New Jersey, and then we're in Indianapolis. I forgot it was Monday. It's Monday right now, currently. What?

Yeah. But everybody hates Monday. Mondays are the worst day of all time. And for us, it's literally just a marathon. Monday is... We have three Mondays a week. That's what I've learned. Yeah.

There's three Mondays a week. Monday's a Monday, Wednesday's a Monday. And Sunday's a Monday. And that's just life. And we're just battling death every Monday. Fucking the pilot we had. Ty is not happy with the pilot we had. Ty and my lady got a bit motion sickness today on the way home. Ty actually decided to try to fall asleep instead of puking and shitting all over the planet is what he said.

We dropped, I think we dropped 2,000 feet on takeoff. We took off, so you go and you're going to have that calm kind of rise and then everything kind of gets quiet whenever you get off the ground. There's always that moment like,

well, are we going to fucking make it or not? Are we going to make it or not? And then once you like above 5 000 feet like okay we're good this pilot we've been having this guy goes from zero feet to 10 000 feet as fast as possible he wants us to get the internet i think and he's a good guy he sends that son of a bitch i think straight up and then and then for something happened where he that thing straightened out anyone it like dropped a little bit and then straight back up and you might as well put us on like the fucking magic carpet ride at the things where it's just swinging back and forth our guts are just up in our in our throats and then back down and then up and down and i look around at ty and ty goes this fucking pilot well it's like

so we we've been flying quite a bit over the last six weeks. We're on six planes a week. Exactly. Which is insane to think about, by the way. We're on six planes a week. For whatever reason, this fucking Joker is the only guy who seemingly doesn't know how to fly a fucking plane. It's unreal. And then when we land, he always does the, hey, great flying, you guys. It's like, dude, you suck at flying you guys it's like dude you suck at

flying planes all right like thank you for getting us down and thank you that we're not dead but like we're flying private here i thought this was supposed to be like a relaxing like i mean you're paying good money for this this son of a bitch is acting like we're in like the fucking blue angels i mean and not to mention today we're flying all sudden, it was like, what the fuck is that smell? You guys smell that? Guy got a party sub from Subway. Didn't get any meat on it. Just got bread and onions.

Flight just smelled like onions the entire way home. And then not to mention, you know, every once in a while, just to keep you on your toes, he'll drop 8,000 feet in elevation when no one's expecting it. It's joyous. It's great. And I'm not so sure that he wasn't just fucking rummaging through that snack drawer because when we got on the way to go back, guess what? There are no snacks that we like in there either.

Did he leave you any booze this time? Well, yeah. I mean, there was plenty of booze in there. But like I said, I was so fucking sick that it was... I mean, all you can do is just put your head in between your legs and hope that you don't either... You fall asleep before the plane goes down and you die

or, you know, you fall asleep so that you don't puke over everyone. That was good. Needless to say, we will not be seeing that guy ever again. I crumpled up his business card and threw it away as soon as we landed in Indianapolis. Other than that, though, good guy. Good guy.

I do think he's a good guy. Great guy. I think he has a great attitude. But boy, man. The sandwich was a wild move. All fly. So Sam and Ty are literally about to puke. Sam and Ty are about to puke, and they're just kind of getting back to it.

And then all of a sudden, we hear this fucking crinkling up in the front, and it's this sub. And the entire place just starts reeking of onions. I'm like, oh my god, is that me from sweating? Like I thought it was me. And I was like, oh, I got to smell me or whatever. And I'm like, I don't know. And you looked at me. And I was like, see?

Obviously. I looked right back at you, and I was like, what are you baking back there? And then Foxy goes, Foxy just starts giggling and shaking his fucking head. He just points this way. And I look up and there's just a fucking sandwich being housed. And the entire plane is now engulfed with this onion smell. It was insanity. It was insanity.

Well, Foxy was laughing because last week it was him who brought the sub full onions on the flight. Oh, he got fucking mowed down too. Foxy did not feel good. Foxy felt terrible. I know he got fucking mowed down too. Foxy did not feel good. Foxy felt terrible. I know he did. I did actually. Because I actually, and this is a real thing,

like flying commercially, if you take a sandwich onto the plane with onions, you should be allowed to be executed on the plane. Yeah. That's a real thing. A lot of people would agree with you.

I've accidentally got like a quarter pounder with cheese where they had onions on it and we're rushing to get on the plane. And I'm like, fuck, got to eat this outside because I don't want to bring it into the air that is just being circled. It's courteous. It is. Yeah.

Just having a little bit of courtesy. This sandwich, it felt like they were just shoving it in the vent and going down. And this is while they were sick. So they're trying to get a breath of fresh air. It was the best. It was awesome. Yeah, I'm done with it. i'll smack that guy's taste out of his mouth if we get back there if when if when we leave today that guy is sitting on the tarmac

smiling at me i will smack the taste out of his mouth lovely guy outside of that though obviously yeah it's a lovely city i mean outside of that he's a great guy. You know, you just can't fucking fly a plane with a shit, you know? I mean, I think I'm a fucking more experienced pilot than that son of a bitch is. Oh, man. Dallas Cowboys are bad at football. It's unbelievable,

too. It feels like Jerry Jones does not care that Jason Garrett just looks looks terrible so happy you're on that jerry jones has lost his edge jerry jones is a man who is a complete savage negotiator he's a ruthless competitor and now he is just completely okay with mediocrity and that mediocrity is spelled j-a-S-O-N Garrett. Couldn't tell if there's double R, double T in there. Jason Garrett, probably a really good guy whenever it comes to human

interaction. Probably a great guy. Went to Princeton. Looks like a nice guy. Like Alberto. Princeton makes me hate him a little bit. Yeah, I know. He does have red hair, yes, that is correct. But just like Alberto Riveron. Alberto Riveron stinks at his job, but I assume as as a human he's probably a good guy and listen to at nfl officiating videos he looks like he's a guy who drinks 400 to 500 beers a week he looks like he's

a good time probably hammered while he's doing the overturning calls which by by the way maybe we suggest he is hammered while doing it might It might clear some things up for him. He's just terrible at his job, and the refs have been bad, beyond bad this year. And we've gone viral seven times chewing out Alberto Riveron. At some point, the clicks won't keep coming. But the bad refs are moving the needle right now. I mean, just like we were on Jim Kong before everybody else started talking about Kim Jong-un, we were on these refs early.

I feel like very early we were on these refs. They hate. And now, like, Mike Greenberg is a Hall of Fame mind in this whole thing, and he's even like, come on, guys. Like, this guy. He almost said it. I wish he would have just said, this guy stinks. But Mike Greenberg would have said it in a much more eloquent fashion.

But everybody's coming around to that. So I assume Alberto Riveron's a good guy. He just stinks at his job. Very bad at his job. Goodell has to fire him. At some point, the mounting pressure will come down on Roger Goodell, and he'll just have to be like, fine, you got it. Everybody likes me now. He's fired.

Next guy's going to come into a bad spot. I don't know how they don't bring Ed Hockley in out of retirement. Just pay him whatever the fuck he wants, and get that big bicep son of a bitch in there to reduce his shit. And that's all you need him to do. Ed Hockley is a, when I say this, mean is he is a field general he's a commander he commands respect he's intelligent he knows the game he was the head of the nfl refs union so he knows negotiation he just that would be the answer let's just take it easy i don't know if ed hockey lee wants a job

build him a gym he's too busy making billions of dollars winning court cases that's what i'm saying though but that is a guy that the NFL needs. And you can cut a check to a guy to save your league whenever the refs are obviously trying to ruin it. It just feels like that's what the refs are doing. So Alberto River, I'm personally sure he's probably a good guy. But he stinks at his job. If I stunk at my job as bad as he did, I would be getting canned instead of promoted everywhere I'm going. He should be canned.

That's just the way it is. He's just not good at his job. The NFL is the top. Same thing with Jason Garrett. The NFL, especially the Dallas Cowboys, are just this, it's a premier job. You're on national television all the time, a spotlighted position.

And he's just the most mediocre guy I've ever seen in my entire life. And his record is the exact same. And that team is just... That wasn't a good one. And that team is just. That wasn't a good one. Let me wet my whistle. At some point, that's going to happen.

And when that happens, he has to fire the guy. But now him and Steven are both saying, no, we're not even thinking about it. It's like, well, then are you even the jones family anymore then if that's the case if you're just going to accept this garbage that's going on the field whenever in close games they're going to look it'll probably be close games but your team doesn't have any grit or respect for your head coach it won't give him a high five when he comes on the field i mean at what point do you got to fire him by the way it was hilarious when you said that the only people that thinks that he's doing a good job good good job is Marvin Lewis and Jerry Jones. That tickled me right where I needed it.

I thought of you while I was saying it. Thought of you while I was saying it. But the joke about the Cowboys for literally the past 10 years is 8-8. 8-8 every year. 8-8. 8-8. National TV every week. National TV every week.

Going to win one, going to lose one. The no-dap thing, that was very troubling. If I'm a Cowboys fan fan I see the players running off they're like I'm not fucking touching that guy's hand yeah and they'll say well he didn't see ya

and they won't make they'll say like oh this is all ancillary garbage or whatever that says a lot more than anything happening on the field I just want that to be known

because that is a glimpse inside the behind the closed doors what everybody thinks dap gate 2.0 well this would be handshake gate because it's a white guy. Well, it's not like it's like a

Bengal situation where Mike Brown's just too cheap to fire a coach because he doesn't want to hire and pay another one. Like, Jerry's got boatloads of money. So it makes no sense to not can him. It makes no sense to me. I just don't see what Jerry Jones is seeing. Is he seeing the same things that we're seeing while we're seeing him?

I mean, we're forced to see him every fucking week. Garrett's got something on him. Yeah, exactly. That's what I thought about Marvin Lewis, right? Yeah, for sure. Thought he had something on the Brown family. I don't know. Jerry Jones seems like one of those guys that if you got something on him, you just disappear.

You know what I mean? Those pictures came out of Jerry a couple years ago. He just skated right through it. Everybody was like, yep yep that's Jerry Jones So what Jerry is an incredible businessman By all accounts An incredible businessman

Jerry Jones built an incredible franchise America's team Jerry Jones is the reason they're on national TV Every single week And somehow in the last 10 years Jerry Jones has lost his way. And we're just asking if Jared Jones is ever going to find it because we are forced to watch his team play.

And I would like to see an inspired team. I would like to see a talented team. I would like to see a team that has an identity. I would just like to see something that resembles a good football team every single week. Cause I'm forced to watch him. Zeke hasn't had a Zeke game yet this entire season. Ran for 100 yards yesterday.

Yeah, but not like he hasn't had like Zeke seasons past. He'd go off for like one of those games where he goes for like 190, 200 and has like a 60-yard run. And you see the highlights of him doing the feed me game. Yeah, he had 100, but it was like there was no big plays for him. Setting the tone, providing pace. Well, and a lot of their losses, I mean, aside from yesterday. Down by three touchdowns. he had 100 but it was like there was no big plays for setting the tone providing pace they did well and a lot of their losses i mean aside from this down by three touchdowns yeah they wouldn't get

a fucking ball i mean yesterday's the first time they really started feeding him the last game they lost that he only got the ball four times or five times in the second half it's like come on feed the guys you just paid 90 million dollars to at least i mean that would make sense nothing makes sense in dallas maybe they'll turn around i. I don't know. That NFC stinks. I think the Chiefs, by the way, the blueprint to beat them is out. Oh, yeah. And it's Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes.

Tyreek Hill is back, by the way, and they still lost to a Houston Texans team that did not play perfect. We're talking about drop balls, turnovers in the red zone, missed extra points, things like that, and Houston Texans were still able to get a win in Kansas City, on the road, in the home of the Chiefs. We interrupt this conversation for a reading by Zito. Thank you,

Pat. He's already out of breath. You guys can make, oh, nevermind. Previous notes. Nope. False start.

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Let's get back to the show. Oh, by the way, speaking of Chicago, Kyle Long going on IR. His hip's out. Couldn't hold that dick no more. Zeta. Jeez. Back to the show. I like Kyle Long, by the way.

I hope he gets healthy. Yeah, me too. Something to think about, Long, by the way. I hope he gets healthy. Yeah, me too. Something to think about too, by the way. Week six, week seven, week eight, week nine, week 10 of the NFL season. You're too far into the season where you can't see the beginning, and you're not far enough along where you see the end. There's a little bit of a mental hurdle that happens with some players. We're in the middle there. It's kind of hard to just keep showing up because you're deep in the

meat, but you're not all the way out yet. So there's a little bit of a mental hurdle that has to happen. A lot of rookies go through it. They hit a rookie wall, like week seven, week eight, look for that to happen potentially. Because then whenever like week 11 comes around, week 12, you're like, okay, there's a finish line. It's like when you're in the middle of a deep ass tunnel and you can't look back, there's nothing there line. It's like when you're in the middle of a deep-ass tunnel, and you can't look back. There's nothing there, and you don't see light yet at the end of the tunnel. And you get a little bit closer. You're like, oh, shit, there it is.

We can get out right there. That's kind of what happens in the NFL season with how long it is. That might be happening for teams right now, too, maybe losing inspiration. But this is Andy Reid's season. This is when his teams are supposed to be dominant. Maybe he finally learned. Maybe he's saving it. Maybe he's saving plays for later in the year.

No, not Andy. Andy doesn't have that ability in him. What if Andy Reid busted through that locker room yesterday after the game like Kool-Aid man and said, don't worry about it, boys. We still got week 12 through 16 or 17 where we got plays on deck. We didn't spend them all like we have in the past. It didn't get us to the Super Bowl last year. We had a great team.

This year we're doing things differently. What if Andy Reid is all rope-a-dope? That's like saying Andy's not going up to Buffet for thirds and fourths. Whoa, come on, Tom. Are you serious with this? That's outrageous. Take it back.

Their defense stinks, too. Double sign! Well, I mean, last year, because I know the stack, because the team I follow was tied with them for most sacks in the league, Chiefs were last year. They're not getting any pressure on quarterbacks this year. They're not getting turnovers.

They're just giving them points. Who's the team you follow? Like the XFL Washington? Dollars. Why did you say the team I follow? Yeah, I feel like I've talked about them enough already today. I don't want to get annoying. We got a lot of Steelers people listening.

Probably because of Ducky Hodges. Pretty humble of me, right? Yeah. He was super humble. I mean, dumb, but the team I follow. Nobody knows you're Steelers. What an incredibly professional. Thank you. That was an incredibly professional thing. P.S. Do I need to take your name out of

my bio? Because I had a bad tweet about Baker and Odell yesterday, and a lot of people were tagging them. I was like, I feel so bad. Like Pat's name's in it. It's all right. I stuck up for Baker a few times publicly. I think Baker knows I'm on his side.

You also say in your thing, I say dumb things into a mic on the Pat McAfee show. I would like you to add, though. I got no characters left, or I would. I got to figure it out. Promoting all of our shows. I know. I to add, though. I got no characters left, or I would. I got to figure it out. Promoting all of our shows. I know. I think, I know, me too.

I've been thinking about changing that, too. Because, like, people, are people really looking at Twitter by it and like, oh, I need to watch their show? Probably not. That's what I'm saying. Like, I was forced to put all this shit in there by the people that I signed contracts with. But I tried to tell them, like, I don't think people are just looking at that and clicking on it. I don't think that's happening. I think people see a tweet, they go over, like,

oh, let's scan through these other tweets and see what he's all about. Maybe check out his pin tweet. What's that? Oh, he has a poll up right now on who I'd rather start, Marcus Mariota or James Winston. Good poll. I like that poll. Hey, it was a good poll.

Marcus Mariota won by the way. Yeah, I was surprised. Backyard football, he can move. Yep. Backyard football, he can't throw. Don't need him to. He can scramble. Jameis is the least in backyard football.

He's going to huck it. Yeah, but seven Mississippi, Jameis is done. The poll was, for those that don't know, I said if this was backyard, because you can't say if you're running an NFL team because it's hard to put yourself in a position of billions of dollars on the line. Every decision is potentially ruining a franchise, everything like that. So it's hard to put yourself in the position of an NFL GM.

No matter how much fantasy football you play, it is hard to actually put yourself in there. So I said, if you're playing backyard football and your quarterback gets hurt, you have to replace him or her with one player that's sitting on the sideline, and it's Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota, who are are you dealing with 58 of the people said marcus mariotta 42 said james winston 52 000 votes that's a pretty large sample size and that was a pretty prevailing win there for marcus mariotta but i think what is the tell at the end of the day is those two guys have stunk yeah a lot of people are tweeting

me like i'm quitting the game is it time to fucking go home that's what i'm doing if i have to pick one of those two i am quitting football that day and i'm going home to hang out with my family and i was like jesus you won't even take an nfl quarterback you got your uncle joe just got hurt rolled his ankle playing backyard football And James Winston shows up And you're just gonna quit It is interesting though because They have looked not great Michael Lombardi came on the show last week and said that he thinks

James Winston Should be reminded more Of what color his team is wearing And then he went to England And threw five fucking hits I was like Lombardi i don't think you've ever been right and then marcus mariotta they got shut up by the broncos and i guess it's just more of the same with mark sperry right a lot of promise a lot of hype and then ultimately at

the end not a lot of outcome or not a lot of good stuff i just don't understand you got yanks for tannahill i should have put him in that thing you got tannahill who's a wide receiver in college who the dolphins drafted to play quarterback said he was gonna be the next great thing paid him as if he was a great thing i got yelled at for commenting about them paying tannahill where i said well if they're paying tannahill blah blah blah colts are gonna have to pay andrew luck maybe a percentage of the team this is what tannahill is getting luck is gonna own this i got a call telling me not to talk about uh conference rivals which i don't think we played them ever and not to talk about business and stuff like that's a

real call i got and i was like okay and he was like uh will you delete the tweet and i was like yeah nah i don't think it's doing pretty well and by the way if that hurts your negotiation with andrew luck like i don't know what to tell you if he if his agent comes in and starts citing a tweet of mine i think you guys are in bigger problems than anything like that but all that those quarterbacks that don't pan out are such an interesting thing we read through that list today on the show go through that. Incredible college quarterbacks who just didn't pan out in the NFL. You got Marcus Mariota. Incredible

college quarterback. You got Timmy Tebow. Incredible college quarterback. You got Johnny Manziel. Incredible college quarterback. Baker Mayfield, I guess, can fall into that category if you want. Pat White, who was a teammate of mine, was an electric factory on offense. If the offense was in the nfl would if it was now back then i think pat white would

have done very well in the nfl but he just was before his time i believe but he's another quarterback that was incredible in college didn't pan out in the nfl sam bradford sam blaine gabbert matt leinert r. RG3. Jamarcus Russell. Troy Smith. Brady Quinn. Brian Leaf. Joey Harrington. I mean, it's almost like picking a quarterback is very much like a scratch-off. You have no idea if your guy's going to be able to

translate into the NFL. I think it's because they get content and comfortable with being a superstar in college. They don't realize that the amount of work that's going to have to happen in the NFL for them to have the same type of success now granted old duck hodges just stepped in there and said boys now we're going to fucking sling it he's winning duck call contests a month before fucking season saving the city but saving pittsburgh put a statue up put him with a duck head on but i think it i think it is something where these college

quarterbacks are not a lot to be great in the NFL. And I would have assumed that if you're good in college, you can figure out in the NFL. But now that I'm calling these college games, I think I could go win a Heisman right now. I think I could potentially go win a Heisman if you put me in the right system. A lot of these defenses, they have no idea what's going on. And they don't have the weapons to have actual good coverage because in college you got to recruit all these guys you get one good corner that's awesome you get one good safety that's awesome you get one good d lineman that's awesome a five star linebacker that's awesome but the other corner that is a one star corner very easy just

for us to put our guy on that guy and just the entire game. And he's run for 10,000 yards against a team that is, some would say recruited well and have a good team. All you got to do is have one weakness and one offensive coordinator that has just a little bit of a brain. And in college you can dominate. And I think in the NFL, it's just a whole different ball game. And I think Jameis and Marcus have learned that. I think a lot of other quarterbacks have as well.

And that's why I think it's such a big deal. Whenever you risk it on a quarterback early. That's why that number one pick that the Dolphins earned, tried to earn. They did earn this weekend so far over the Redskins. Who knows what that's going to be? Will Tua pan out in the NFL? Will Tua come to the NFL? I think Tua might be a righty, by the way.

The more and more I watch him, I think he might be a righty. Like a natural righty. What's his name? He's the last lefty to take a snap in the NFL. The OC for the Cowboys. Can't think of his name right now. Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore was the last lefty to take a snap in the NFL.

And I might have heard this. I don't know if my brain's just making this up. But watching him throw lefty, it doesn't look natural. He throws a nice ball. Can throw the ball far. He seems to be a smart quarterback and all those things. But it doesn't look natural. He throws a nice ball, can throw the ball far. He seems to be a smart quarterback and all those things. But it doesn't look natural. And that might just be a lefty looking anyways.

He doesn't look natural. Jalen Hurts looked very reckless with the football this past weekend. I don't know anything about that air bear kid. I don't know who the set lock is at number one. But if you're tanking for a quarterback, I just don't know if you hit. Because there's no transfer portal in the NFL. You just got to hope that you get a good guy. I don't know who it is.

I don't think you could draft Tua because statistically, lefties have a bigger chance of dying before righties. It's true. Right-handed scissors. And with that, we will end this show. Shout-out to the Colts. Made zero mistakes yesterday. On Sunday, made zero mistakes

Still in the driver's seat for the Super Bowl Let's go Shout out to the Lions Big win last night Well you just fucked yourself there Classic mistake I don't think it works that way I mean I guess we'll find out

I'm not that important Thought you were the biggest fan. Whoa! Hey, you don't deserve that, what you just said to yourself. I think everyone else that thinks that it matters just thinks they're a little too important. Foxy, I would argue this. You're one of the best editors on YouTube, which is the

biggest platform on Earth right now. I would say you do matter. You are important. so whenever you put a jinx on a team like that an entire city has to fucking suffer so when the lions lose tonight because of what you just said you have to sleep with that you have to remember that you have to think about that tomorrow just like the thought of us not having an alds baseball oh jesus christ i'd almost forgotten by the way you need to check out the vlog from last week. It just came out this morning at 7.30.

If you're listening before 7.30 a.m., the new vlog for last week has come out. It includes the Yankees game. It includes the Triple G fight. It includes everything. There's a lot going on. And we've got a bunch of fucking giveaways, too. Oh, yeah. By the way, somebody's got to keep track of all those.

Gumpy. Yep. Boom. Bingo. We're giving away a bunch of fucking giveaways too. Oh yeah. By the way, somebody's got to keep track of all those. Gumpy. Yep. Boom. Bingo. We're giving away a lot of shit. And right now we'll give away $500. Oh, hey. Tweet me something, make me laugh.

It's easy as that. If Todd thinks it's funny and I think it's funny, the mostest funny, we'll send you $500. Probably like a Visa card or something like that, so it doesn't get on your taxes. Yeah. Let's go. Because we've been dealing with- We can do a lot with $500. A lot.

On a Visa card. Absolutely. What are you talking about? Speaking about a college bar. It's a good weekend. Shop for the boys. $500 weekend. Maybe start buying some DiGiorno's instead of Jack's.

Whoa. It's not delivery Wow Jinx A lot of people sending me photos of those lava cakes Nice Keep those coming Because I look at those things and I'm just like I close my eyes

I picture the taste And I keep scrolling I have like a nice little snack the taste and I keep scrolling. I have a nice little snack session every time I get a tweet. Somebody's like, these things are shit. And I'm like, whoa. Let me click out of your comment just so I can see the lava cake. All right. Yep.

Tweet me something that is comical. If Todd likes it, finds it funny, he'll probably bring it to my attention if I laugh. Bingo, bango, $500 Visa card. Least we could do. You're the absolute best. Thanks to

at Devlin Hodges 10 on Twitter, at Devlin Hodges on the Instagram for joining us, old Duck Hodges. Congrats to him on being a champion

duck caller. And congrats to you for listening to the show. Don't know why you do, but thankfully you do. Ty Schmidt. Oh, by the way, this is very contentious right now. This is a massive situation.

He's not kidding. This is no joke. No, I know. Hit the music, dude, hit the high baller Shut up the dogs, stare at the water I say, wind, hold on your weight Hit them boys, boom, 12 gauge Out in the mud down in Mississippi

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