The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1173 - Adam Schefter, Pete Thamel, Brian Windhorst, Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything that happened in the Olympics over the weekend including the photo finish in the men’s 100M Final that saw Noah Lyl...es win the gold medal, Scottie Scheffler shooting a course record 62 on Sunday to win the gold medal, and all the other different medals won by the USA as we increase our medal count. They also discuss NFL training camps and joint practices including all the fights happening at Lions/Giants practice, and everything else as we get closer and closer to the season. Joining the show to give updates about the contract statuses of Brandon Aiyuk, Trent Williams, and CeeDee Lamb, as well as injury updates for Puka Nacua and Justin Herbert is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, the authority on college football, Pete Thamel joins the show to chat about the new allegations being brought on the Michigan Football team, Connor Stallions, and Sherrone Moore and what is going to come of it, if anything. Later, ESPN NBA Insider and journalist, Brian Windhorst joins the show LIVE from Paris to chat about Team USA, their upcoming matchup against Brazil, why FIBA doesn’t want the US to dominate, the whole 3-on-3 situation, and much more. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Overreaction Monday, August 5th, 2024. This program starts now. Wow. It is a beautiful time in sports. We have news from all around the globe. We have the Olympics still happening. The Americans are beating that ass. Hell yeah. We'll obviously get an update on that. We have college football news happening at a rapid rate, both up in Michigan, maybe in Colorado with Athlon Sports, somebody we've never heard of, chit-chatting. We'll have Pete Thamel on later in the hour to break that all down. There's NFL news happening literally by the moment
Starting point is 00:00:37 around the league in cities everywhere. Joint practices are starting to happen. New contracts are taking place. Holdouts are still happening. We'll have Adam Schefter on in about 15 minutes to chit chat about that. We have some baseball news taking place. Per baseball, it is not actual good, but it's
Starting point is 00:00:54 bad news. Cannot wait to dive into that. We got so much to talk about. We hope you had a fantastic weekend. The original Tribal Chief is back. The only Tribal Chief is back. The one Tribal Chief is back. The only Tribal Chief is back. The one Tribal Chief is back. Roman Reigns returned to the WWE
Starting point is 00:01:09 on Saturday, so obviously there's a lot of magic happening around the wrestling world as well. It is a glorious Monday. I'm not here alone. No, no. I'm here at the Toxic Table. At Paws and Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Love your America stuff. You've been rocking because the Olympics are a place where the entire world gets to do battle.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Truly. In a sprint of 100 meters yesterday, I saw people from all around the globe in it. There was only one winner. That's right. Who was that? That was somebody from the United States of America. That was Noah Lyles doing big
Starting point is 00:01:41 things for us. Obviously, one of the greatest races of all time. We'll get to an entire Olympic update, but this finish right here needs to be talked about. L3, third one from the left, lane seven I think it is. Noah Lyle's historically bad start is what they were saying and chases down everybody else for a massive photo finish win. Old buddy Co- Tom Thompson. win. Old buddy Co... Co... He's supposed to be the one. This guy, he's big dude. He's huge. He's a massive dude. He put him on a football field. I know that gets said about everybody that's fast,
Starting point is 00:02:14 but that guy, big, fast, strong, had the lead. Then what? Noah Lowes walks him. Photo finish, they have to show it. It's not the foot. It's the torso. The lean by Noah Lowes that he's probably worked on for his entire life thousands and thousands of times. It's the little things that make you a champion. And I think I saw Will Compton tweet out this photo and talk about how coaches in every sport are going to utilize this photo to drive home the details, drive home the finer things, and force you to do the meticulous bullshit time and time again.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Because what can happen at the end? Oh, a gold medal, best in the world. You focus on the small things more than everybody else, you're going to end up just like Noah Liles, who if you go by foot, probably third, maybe even fourth place if something's sneaking in there. But instead, it's a torso, which he knew. Perfect lean, perfect finish, perfect win.
Starting point is 00:03:02 United States of America beats the shit out of everybody. That's right. We love that. Love that. There's a lot of medals for us. We'll talk about that in a matter of moments. Nine-year NFL vet looking incredibly jocked. Darius J. Butler. Big news happening around the NFL right now. Joint practices. And we'll get to the Giants and Lions
Starting point is 00:03:19 here in a matter of moments. But these joint practices we've been saying for a while. For as long as i've had a microphone in front of me trick chatting about the nfl yep and you as well we have said that the joint practices are a recipe okay for a fight that's all it is you put all the ingredients in there only a certain amount of jobs for both these teams you put two scouting departments that can potentially hire you for a living to put food on your table.
Starting point is 00:03:48 There is a chance to maybe make yourself look great to a completely different coaching staff. There is a chance to prove yourself. There's a chance to take a little extra effort. There's a chance to do a lot of things. And whenever you see somebody from a different uniform for the first time, you're at the bottom of the roster, and you have a chance to make your mark, every once in a while it's going to be going a little bit longer.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's going a little bit stronger. Maybe doing a little bit of a dirty shot. We saw the Texans doing it to their own players, let alone you do it to another team's players. It is a recipe for a fight no matter what. Chuck Pagano just put out a tweet as these videos came from the Giants' Lions practices of there's been three fights now, and we will certainly dive into all of them, where he goes, it needs to be competitive, not combative. Well, the jobs are very competitive.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So in a physical sport, it's going to come combative in a matter of moments. I don't know if I've ever seen an inter-practice, joint practice happen without a fight, especially if there's full pads involved. But we're in that time of year right now where these dudes are brawling. Absolutely brawling. You rarely get through a full session without a brawl, without a fight, without a little dust up, especially with the full pads on. Like, it's hot.
Starting point is 00:04:53 These are what we call dog days in training camp. And to your point, typically in pro practices, you always preach, hey, take care of your guys, take care of your own guys. I'm going up against Reggie. I'm not taking Reggie Wayne or T.Y. Hilton to the ground. Now, if I'm going up against Malik Neighbors or another guy in another jersey, maybe I got to compete through the ground. I'm getting maybe more some realistic game reps.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You want to take it to that limit. And as a coach, you want your guys, you want to be able to, Bill Carlsey always says, I want to have to pull my guys back as opposed to push them forward and get after it. It's obviously a fine line. You don't want brawls. You don't want a broken hand, you know, want a broken hand, throwing a punch like that. Saw Sewell throwing some big blows. But that's part of the game.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's football, it's violence, it's a controlled violence obviously. But once you get up against another team, another color for a few days, like you said, you're trying to prove yourself not only to your staff, obviously if you're on the bottom of the roster especially, but to that other staff as well. And it's good things that come out of joint practice as well. You see different looks. You see different fronts, different coverages, different cadences, calls and things like that.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So especially guys who haven't gotten real game reps, it's great for them. But obviously you don't want to go too far and get somebody hurt. Yeah, you can choreograph certain situations that you don't know if they'll show up in a preseason. But with choreographing in situations, you're forcing everybody to go 100%. Goal line, fourth down, red zone. These are all highly contested situations.
Starting point is 00:06:10 One-on-ones, both. Linebacker, running back, offense line, defense line, wide receiver, corner, and it's like you've got to go. We're talking about the bottom half of the roster because they're fighting for jobs, so obviously they might be a little bit more scrappy. They might do a little bit. But at the top two, ones don't want to lose the ones.
Starting point is 00:06:26 We obviously saw what happened with Hall and Nuke. Yeah. Whenever the whole thing, don't you touch me, I'm you. Like, that stuff happens. Those fights happen from that. Let's go to the Giants and the Lions joint practice now. Motor City Dan Campbell, every time he speaks, it's hard not to just be like, this guy's hilarious. The best.
Starting point is 00:06:42 This guy's the man. This is what he had to say about Coach Dayball of the New York Giants today as he was briefing the media before joint practice. I told him, he's a chameleon. This guy's unbelievable. I mean, when I was working with him, he looks about like he does now, and then within about two months, it was... Fat.
Starting point is 00:07:00 And then he's like, you know what, I'm going to cut it back. And then all of a sudden, it's like three months later,'s back down i mean he he it's unbelievable and it just he can hey if he decides he's gonna do this he's gonna do this he decides i'm gonna let it go i'm gonna let it go and i i love that about him i mean he's rare that way he's a hell of a coach he is i mean you don't you don't do what you did a year ago without being able to coach. So I got a lot of respect for Dabes. Motor City, Dan Campbell was drafted to the Giants. He stayed there for four years.
Starting point is 00:07:31 He said he has a lot of, obviously, personal relationships around the Giants building with the Mara family and Dabes. That's why he started complimenting him. And he said, easy come, easy go, man. That guy's white. It comes. Cheeseburger. He's fat.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Runs a lap. He's thin. But nonetheless, he's a good football coach, paying his respect and his homage. And I don't think there's enough people that are paying respect to Motor City's Dan Campbell. And obviously, it's potentially because whenever he started this entire thing, he said he was going non-decaps. And the way he talks, he'll wear an IndyCar helmet to a press conference. He'll say, man, you guys are like the wind beneath my wings, man. And like even do the full implement.
Starting point is 00:08:04 He's like a musician or an artist whenever he speaks or somebody who's trying to be entertaining as opposed to the same old coach speak. So I think a lot of people think he's big, dumb dipshit. That is not the case at all. If you look at what he's been able to do to the Detroit Lions, and obviously it's alongside Brad, and it's alongside a lot of great coordinators and great players, but there's one man that is setting the tone for the Detroit Lions since he got the job.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It was a man who said, hey, we're going to embrace Detroit. We're going was a man who said hey we're going to embrace Detroit we're going to be about Detroit we're going to be tough we're going to be gritty and we're going to draft the right guys now all these draft picks come after the season that took place before the first season happened remember his pillar player penesol and Saint Brown both of them brand new deals still on the squad they were the people they wanted to build and set the team's culture around, and they certainly did that. In a matter of three years, they're now the favorites of the NFC North. They're now one of the favorites to be in the Super Bowl, where for, what, 150 years, the Detroit Lions were laughed at, pretty much? This dude needs to get a little bit more credit for how he is as a coach, for how he's been able to turn around a program, turn around a building, and how he's
Starting point is 00:09:02 been able to remain himself whenever he's doing these press conferences. Now, obviously, Detroit's not a big market, and they are the Detroit Lions. Of course. And the way he delivers his messaging publicly is one that a lot of people cannot take serious, potentially, if you didn't want to, but he's a great coach, and he's built his team on everything that you need to win. They're fully bought in. They're fully committed. That's why whenever you hear the Lions are going to be in joint practices, you know 10,000% that there's going to be an us versus them bunker mentality because that's what MCDC has literally built his entire team on. So there's going to be brawls. Some of these fights this morning coming out of practice are massive. We're talking 15, 20, 30 people getting involved. Absolute scrums. A lot of pushing, a lot of
Starting point is 00:09:43 shoving. Then every once in a while, one person will get the best of another person. Then another little start will happen. Then there's little micro bursts happening within the group. Then there's people just trying to show face. Hey, I'm in here. Then somebody, wait, I didn't get any of this. There's five plays to go. I wanted to fight this motherfucker comes flying in over the top of this entire thing. Now, normally, it involves
Starting point is 00:10:00 everybody but a couple positions. Kickers, punters, normally not fighting. Long snappers, normally not fighting. But if the fight gets near us, helmet on, in frame. Need to be in the shot. Got to. Have to. Cameras are always rolling. Have to. They don't stop rolling.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's important too. You, hey, front toward fight. Right. Okay, never, never can never. No. Because on film, oh, this is a good fight here. Let's zoom in on, what were you doing? You were, so let me get this straight.
Starting point is 00:10:33 So, a guy that's going to be blocking for you, whenever you're doing your little kicking stuff, he's in a fight with three people over there. You're the closest person. What are you, oh, you did put your helmet on. Are you getting in a fight? No, actually, you put your helmet on so you don't get hit by any glancing blizzards. You run away.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You were considered an outcast in that locker room forever. Now, very easy way to win locker room over, though. Kicker punter. Right into that thing. Look, even a fucking punter was going to get some. Even the kicker was going to get in. That's good, but normally not us. Also, quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Never in there. Let alone if you're a paid quarterback. Daniel Jones got in the scrap this morning. What? Daniel Jones. Now, look, this is a cell phone video, obviously, so we appreciate the hell out of Jordan Renan who gets this, but look at Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:11:15 A little bit of a scrum here. Daniel Jones, red jersey coming in, pushes. Get off my guy. Dime. Get off my guy. I love it. Absolutely love it. Now, obviously, if your quarterback's in there, everybody has to be in there.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Kickers and punters, Graham Gonneau should be sprinting in there to get in that fight as well, if you see Daniel Jones in there, especially if he's making $40-plus million, and he's been there for a while and had the entire offseason that he had with Hard Knocks, where his own GM and scouting department was like, do we know if this guy's worth the money that we paid him? It's going to be built around him. And he said he obviously didn't love the narratives that were coming out of Hard Knocks. Him getting in the fight, D-Butt.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I turned, as soon as I saw this video, I actually double put the heart on this thing. I'm a Daniel Jones guy. Him getting that arm, that's worth $40 million involved in pushing. Didn't throw a punch, which we respect and appreciate. Can't break your hand. But him diving in there to save one of his guys, never see it. I fucking love it. Look out for the giants this year look out for the giants this year they got the quarterback fighting for the offensive line they got dayball going they got all eyes on joe
Starting point is 00:12:17 shane i mean obviously nobody thinks the giants are gonna do anything but i love daniel jones after that one video and that's where you can learn from these types of situations. I think a lot of people blow out of proportion. They're fighting. They lack discipline. They're this. They're that. What you're trying to learn is who you got on the roster. Daniel Jones is a dog. I respect the shit out of a D-Bot. You got to love that. And obviously, like you said, expectations aren't super
Starting point is 00:12:37 high for the Giants. But I do love seeing this from Daniel Jones. Getting in there just enough. Not fully getting there, diving in to where he could be on the bottom of the pile. But, hey, he's on top of my guy. Let me get him off. I think a coach, I don't know who that was, dressed up on the side. Hey, let's get this franchise quarterback out of here.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Let's get our starting quarterback out of here. But I'd love to see that from Daniel Jones. At the beginning of the camp, you saw all bad clips of Daniel Jones. I've been seeing Danny Dimes kind of pop up. Oh, yeah. There was a couple nukes coming out of that arm i dropped in there neighbors also might be a weapon you know maybe maybe daniel jones needs a malik neighbors you know like the attitude the swagger everything about it like hey are you gonna be pissed you don't get the ball early yeah i am are you are you gonna get mad and like fight yeah I am maybe Daniel Jones
Starting point is 00:13:25 needed somebody like Malik Neighbors to come in and be his yin to his yin in this entire thing and if he's gonna be fighting people
Starting point is 00:13:33 I'll tell you what Daniel Jones I'm gonna buy a damn jersey I'm gonna buy a Daniel Jones it was that quick literally as soon as cause they don't tell me who you are
Starting point is 00:13:40 show me who you are and in the middle of one of the fights there's been three now we saw the first one the Daniel Jones one was the second, there's been three now. We saw the first one. The Daniel Jones one was the second one. There has been one since we have gone live at their practice. They're going.
Starting point is 00:13:51 They are getting after it at that practice. They're going to be exhausted. They are going to be absolutely exhausted. The amount of energy that is being exerted during these fights is through the roof. That's what a lot of coaches say. Oh, you got energy, huh? Oh, you guys want to fight, huh? Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:02 On the line! And then, bang, you kind of sort it. But this is expected. But Daniel Jones being a dog like that, I did not know. Now, some people say it's very dumb for him to get in there. Sure. Some people will say, why would you ever? You have a red jersey on.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Nobody's even allowed to touch you. So if you push somebody, some D-lineman turns around and sees you. If he hits you, that's, and I know it's being talked about a lot, but that does potentially start a uh not a world war but like a uh like a full-on right team if a key lineman was to swing at a red jersey daniel jones in the middle of a fight even if daniel jones pushed which he certainly did that would be a probably got a call yeah probably yeah that is this thing is completely over so daniel jones is in a very good spot this This is one of those like, ah, you can't do it in three-type situation.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But the fact his first reaction was to get in there, I still absolutely love. Yeah, absolutely. And, I mean, when we met him down in Atlanta before he got drafted, I don't think any of us could have foreseen that Duke guy wearing a button-up and a nice little pullover, you know, three-quarters zip doing something like that. But to your point about Malik Nabors, I don't think Daniel Jones has ever had a player of his caliber catching passes.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You could argue Darren Waller, but obviously he didn't really play very much with Daniel Jones since he was there. But if you're a Giants fan with what's going on with the Cowboys and then who knows what the commies you, you could kind of feel like, Hey, this, this does kind of have some reminiscence of 2021 where they went and beat Minnesota at Minnesota in the playoffs. Like, they could be a decent team this year. Jaden Daniels will be playing in preseason.
Starting point is 00:15:32 That news came out this weekend. There was also some other players that were announced where they were playing. It's interesting. We'll keep our ear to the ground for all of it. We'll talk to Schefter here in a matter of moments. He is currently en route somewhere, which is always a Schefter play. Of course. While we wait for that,
Starting point is 00:15:47 let's go ahead and get an update on the Olympics. It was a great weekend to be a United States of American. Yes, it was. Joining us live from Hammer Dodd. Todd. Tone Diggs with some Olympic update. What up, Tone? What up, what up? Yes, it was a great weekend to be an American at the Olympics. On Saturday, they
Starting point is 00:16:04 had 18 medals in total, which was the most for a single day ever at the Olympics at the Olympics. On Saturday, they had 18 medals in total, which was the most for a single day ever at the Olympics for the U.S., so that was pretty good. There was a lot of golds and a lot of big events. You started with the Noah Lyles in the 100, which he won by.005, a thousandth of a second.
Starting point is 00:16:20 But also yesterday, Scott Scoot Scheffler shot a 62 on Sunday to come back. Ron was in the lead. He didn't do as well down the stretch. He was 20 under. But Scottie going 62. I believe it was what?
Starting point is 00:16:34 That's eight or nine under on Sunday to come back and win the gold for the U.S. Course record, actually. Yes, course record. Shot a course record on a Sunday of the Olympics. And on Friday, he was kind of out of it. You know, Friday he was out of it. And then Saturday he was kind of out of it. Friday, he was out of it. And then Saturday, he started working. Started Sunday behind.
Starting point is 00:16:48 He's the first one to ever win a gold medal from starting Sunday behind. Obviously, the last two Olympics, Americans have won. Justin Rose won in 2016, but that was pre-COVID, so it doesn't exist, right? That's a good point, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I don't even know if they count that anymore, which is a damn shame for Justin Rose because it's hard not to say, we've won every gold medal that the Olympics ever had in golf. Scotty Sheffler getting choked up on top of the podium during the national anthem was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Yeah, I mean, for a guy who before the tournament started, all these other golfers saying, hey, obviously my goal is to go out there to win,
Starting point is 00:17:20 for him to just be like, hey, I just want to go have fun and kind of enjoy the moment. Look at everything he's accomplished this year like in the grand scheme of things like the olympic golf event i don't know if to a professional golfer that means as much as winning a masters or something like that but then you get in to contention and he's in that moment and you like the gravity of winning a gold medal for your country hits him for a guy who has accomplished everything there is to accomplish in the golf world. That almost choked me up. It was like, oh, my God. This isn't just another Sunday.
Starting point is 00:17:49 This guy cares more about this than it seems anything else that he's accomplished in his career so far. Wife and I were hanging out with Baby. We're on Peacock on the golf tab. So I watched the entire post celebration, then the press conference and the interviews afterwards. I went through the whole thing because McKenzie's active. He's awesome. So not really able to change the channel search, what's live conference and the interviews afterwards. I went through the whole thing because we, again, he's active. He's awesome. So not really able to change channel search, what's live, what's not live. And while the golf was happening, Joker and Alcaraz were battling,
Starting point is 00:18:12 which I think Tony's about to get to in a matter of moments. It was a beautiful sports morning on Sunday. But when Scotty Scheffler was talking about everything that it meant to him, and he said he went to the gymnastics, and when he saw them on top of the podium and the national anthem was going with the revenge and comeback story from what it was he said he was getting choked up watching it then so then whenever he was standing on top of the podium it like kind of all just kind of hit him because that man was in jail cell just a few months ago that man was in a jail cell just a few months ago now he's on top of the olympic podium god
Starting point is 00:18:40 bless america god bless scotty sheffer. Congratulations to he, Fleetwood, and... Hideki Matsuyama. And sorry, Tom Kim. Yeah. Yeah. Especially now. Tom Kim was seeing a lot of things, especially right now. Back to Utah, a little bit more Olympic update. Yeah, let's talk about a few of the Olympic goats, starting with Katie Hideki, who...
Starting point is 00:18:58 She's now the most decorated women's Olympian in U.S. history. She's got her 14th total medal, nine Olympic medals, fourth straight in the 800. She won this weekend. I don't know if Ledecky gets as much credit as she deserves. She is in the Phelps-ish range, and she is absolutely dominant. The issue is the 1500,
Starting point is 00:19:15 which they hadn't run forever in the women's swimming. That was a men's swimming event for a while. Then they add the 1500 in, and since they've added it in, I don't remember, four Olympics ago, maybe, I don't know what it is she has the top 20 times killing everybody so like i think the issue is it's like if she doesn't crack her own records she's not good as opposed to just beating the rest of the world as bad as she is this is going to be a 10 15 20 year down the road
Starting point is 00:19:42 type of respect that's going to be paid to kat Ledecky because of how humble she is, how it's just kind of nonchalant, and how she's supposed to win. You said Titmiss out of Australia was supposed to have her, right? What was on the call? They kept saying, like, hey, if Titmiss and Ledecky are close at 600 meters, then Titmiss is probably going to pull away in the end. They were close at 600, and Ledecky pulled away at the end. Actually, Madden, who got bronze, she almost caught Titmiss, so we were 1-2,
Starting point is 00:20:06 but ended up gold, bronze. Can't hate that. Now, with that being said, we did beat the hell out of Australia. We had more golds in the pool, more silvers in the pool, and more bronzes in the pool. And I did see the Australian swimming fan contingency
Starting point is 00:20:20 who, once again, we were just talking shit to you, but you started talking shit to us. We buried you. Per capita, we're just talking shit to you, but you started talking shit to us. We buried you. Per capita, we have the fourth most amount of medals than any other country in the world. Shut the fuck up. Per capita. If we're going to start doing a per capita question,
Starting point is 00:20:36 we will obviously wonder how the hell the island of Jamaica has become the fastest island of all. We can get into that. We can get into that whole thing. How about how much water is around you guys everywhere? Okay, in Australia. You ever think about per water, per base, per border, per everything?
Starting point is 00:20:54 We don't want to get into that. And with that being said, we are also very confused about how we're not better at soccer with how many people we have. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And we don't want to do the per capita conversation strictly because we'll have to look in the mirror and realize that we're bad. Yeah. We're going to get away. Yeah. So you guys need to not use that as a distraction from what's going on.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Because we have nothing to counter with. No. So stop. And this needs to be a fair fight. Yeah. Exactly. We need to be able to. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Is this a debate or no? We need something in return. And with that being said, we're better than you. But nobody's better than the man who remains. Go ahead. What were you going to say? They're also an entire continent. We need something in return. And with that being said, we're better than you. But nobody's better than the man who remains. Go ahead. What were you going to say? They're also an entire continent. We're just a country.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Okay? That's right. Good point. Good point. Your entire continent can battle against us. Do the stats on that. Boom. Another one of the goats.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Simone Biles wins her seventh gold. She won it in vault this weekend. I believe the gymnastics for the women are now done. She got silver in the floor routine this afternoon. She finishes with seven golds total. She got silver. Charles got bronze
Starting point is 00:21:56 in the floor routine. She hit the Simone's double or the Biles double. She hit the other one too. She was perfect. She had a perfect down whenever she needed it. Dominated. Congrats to her. It's been an honor to watch. She did not rule out 2028 in L.A. at home, which is huge.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Neither did Ledecky because it's coming back to America. So a lot of these American heroes are like, they see what Marshawn's getting to do in the water in France. It's like, why not us? We'll return to the Olympics update from Hammer. Time, time. Later. Congrats to Simone. Yeah, she did all of them. Ladies and gentlemen, 10 digs. Good Time, time, later. Congrats to Simone. Yeah, she did all of them.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Ladies and gentlemen, Tone Diggs. Good work, Tone. Thanks, boys. Joining us now live is senior NFL insider for ESPN, friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yay! Gentlemen, what's going on? Schefter, you were just negotiating a deal or finding out about a deal that was being negotiated, and we appreciate you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Let's get right into it. Tyreek Hill, new deal. This comes after the DJ Moore deal gets done in Chicago Tyreek Hill gets a brand new deal we've been hearing chirpings for a while that Tyreek wanted uh something new now that the market has kind of changed completely he was voted the number one player in the NFL by NFL players he was allegedly seeking something new but it wasn't really because he was at practice it wasn't as loud how'd we here? What are the thoughts on it? What does this mean for other wide receivers, Jamar Chase, Ayuk, and plenty that are looking for money? Shefty?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, I just think we have one more example here of a guy who's getting paid the guaranteed money. You see the numbers right there. It's a three-year, $90 million deal. What's the guarantee? $65 million. But now, if you look at the total guarantees on the deal, it's like what's the guarantee 65 million dollars but now if you look at the total guarantees on the deal it's like 106 and a half million dollars and so that i think becomes a new benchmark that some of these other guys look to now look cd's got one year left and that
Starting point is 00:23:36 deal with dallas is going to get done at some point in time the question is when does it get done and for how much you can't tell me that when that regular season opens, that C.D. Lamb is not going to be there for week one. I don't believe that. I'll believe that when I see it. I expect him to be there. I think a trickier one is Jamar Chase because he's got two years left on his deal. And the Bengals, at least Mike Brown, was pretty open that he wanted to wait until after the season. Now, I think there are people in the Bengals organization that want to get this deal done. They know what the situation is. And
Starting point is 00:24:08 we're talking about a wide receiver who is willing in college to sit out a full year to hold on to his value, to make sure nothing happens so that he can get into the draft and become the great top pick that he became for the Cincinnati Bengals. So again, I think that's a little bit trickier, but the numbers are what they are. We have enough wide receivers now who are averaging $30 million plus per year to do a deal for C.D. Lamb, to do a deal right now for Jamar Chase, to do a deal for Brandon. It's not hard to do some of these deals right now. And just Tyreek gets you one more example of a wide receiver who's going to be paid a lot of money. Yeah, unless you don't want to do it. And congrats to all those guys getting the money.
Starting point is 00:24:53 We don't know how long it's going to happen for. We don't know what the wide receiver market is going to look like in a few years, which is probably why Jamar Chase is like, Yo, market is up right now. Let's hit it. Because you never know. You might wake up on a Monday and the market goes a complete different direction. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Allegedly. Allegedly. The wide receiver market's up. The stock market's down. Allegedly. That's the way it goes sometimes. Ain't crypto. I mean, allegedly.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I mean, allegedly. Definitely. I guess 1,000 ports or whatever. So that made its way into my algo. And that's when you know. That's when you know, oh, no. Cause for concern. If it makes it into my algorithm and that's when you know that's when you know oh no cause for concern if it makes it into my algorithm that is we know it's an issue because i am a you know pretty isolated sports individual that was all i woke up this morning it was like all right
Starting point is 00:25:35 obviously tyreek deal he's happy jamar chase isn't happy let me go ahead and do this uh 1.9 trillion dollars has been dumped out of the stuff excuse me me? How much? How many? And then red arrow on the next one. I'm like, I don't know. What are they talking about there? Oh, that's the whole thing. What country is that one? Oh, all of them. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Okay. Then you see draft and it's not about the NFL. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's like. What? Then I start seeing photos of where ships are going and things. I'm like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Get me back to my sports! Unlike, unlike, unlike, unlike, unlike, unlike. I hope everybody ends up working out. But let's talk about the wide receiver market a little bit more because there was some conspiracy fodder. Well, which I guess. Let's get back to the wide receiver market. The wide receiver market, there was some conspiracy fodder
Starting point is 00:26:20 over the weekend from Boston Connors. Yeah, Shefty, a lot of people in New England are just kind of throwing around the idea of an IU trade with Matthew Judon involved, because obviously Judon, who is back at practice but has been unhappy with his contract situation. Is IU to New England a reality in any sort? And would Matthew Judon be a piece that would be moved in a possible trade? Because, I mean, it is very public, too. be a piece that would be moved in a possible trade because i mean it is very public too elliot wolf has called the niners like six times since the iuke contract hasn't been done yeah who comes up
Starting point is 00:26:53 with these conspiracy theories that has matthew judah going to shannon pretty cool pretty cool somebody with it very creative people these guys are creative. Or girls are. Interesting. Look, to your point, I think New England has been watching Brandon Ayuk all along. Is that Judon? Is that Judon and Ayuk right there? We're making a play? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Brandon Ayuk is not being traded for Matthew Judon. That's not happening. Okay. Again, I think Newland is in the market of acquiring players i think that they've watched the brandon iuk situation from afar the entire time i think they're tracking it i think every team out there just is wondering like the longer this goes on do we jump in and make a call on brandonuk? Would they listen to our offer? New England certainly, I'm sure, would love to have a guy like Brandon Ayuk. But again, it takes two sides of the
Starting point is 00:27:52 tank. You got to satisfy the 49ers if you're ever going to make a deal. And the player has to be willing to take the contract from your organization. And even though he doesn't have a no trade clause in his contract, he has an unofficial no trade clause, Brandon Ayoub does right now, because if he doesn't want to go to a team, he could say, I'm not taking that contract. And then why is that team going to give up the amount of compensation it would take to go get him if they know that they can't get him under a long-term deal? I thought you were going to say the unofficial trade clause was the fact that the Niners say,
Starting point is 00:28:26 we could have it for three more years if we want. We got one more year in the contract and we got two franchise tags. I thought that was the unofficial no-trade clause that is being held by one particular party in there. And Judah actually retweeted it. Brandon Ayuk has got an unofficial no-trade tag, or an unofficial no-trade clause, because he has the ability to say to these teams, I'm not taking a deal if I don't want to say to these teams, I'm not taking
Starting point is 00:28:45 a deal if I don't want to go there. And if he's not taking the deal, then why would the team give up assets, draft capital to go get a guy like that if he is showing or telling them that he's not willing to commit there long term? Has that happened? Do you know of? Or are you just saying hypothetically? We're talking hypothetically right now. Okay, yeah, because this has happened in the past, obviously, where teams have wanted to make a play for somebody, and then the player has said,
Starting point is 00:29:14 we are not going to agree to a deal if you trade for us. So it's a waste of assets, and it's never going to happen. That has taken place in the NFL's history before. But the fact that the Niners have three years, potentially, in their eyes, and IU potentially has places he wants to go that are kind of, potentially. I don know if anything happens is he what do you think ends up with Iuke just like you said CeeDee Lamb you don't see a world where he's not playing week one you said Jamar Chase thing a little bit more interesting how about Iuke how about Trent Trent Williams look they'd love to work to get him back. They're trying to get him back, figure out a scenario. I think he's got two years left on his deal,
Starting point is 00:29:52 and you're talking about a Hall of Fame tackle, an elite player. Goat, they're saying. But the one concern you have, he's 36 years old, and so you're going to guarantee more money. And that's the thing. Trent Williams is good enough that he could say to the Niners, I want more money. I want more money or I'm not coming. And so that's where thing. Trent Williams is good enough that he can say to the Niners, I want more money. I want more money or I'm not coming. And so that's where they're at.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And my guess would be at some point in time that the two sides figure out a way to get this done. But Trent Williams is a very proud guy, very smart guy. He's handled his business at the NFL level in an A-plus way. So he knows how to get what he wants. And there's time. Like the fact that Trent Williams is missing camp in late July, early August, that's a favorite to him. Like, he doesn't need to be there.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Like, as long as he's there August 20th and beyond to get ready for that Monday night opener against the Jets on Monday night football, everybody will be okay. If we get to the point two, three weeks from now, and this is still going on with trent williams that would be i think worrisome okay so trent's going to be back we assume that's going to be something so you'd like to think that they'll figure out how you do you think he's back and playing for the niners starting day again i think that you just look every day and you look at that
Starting point is 00:31:02 situation he's holding in he hasn't been out there there's no resolution the teams are out there tracking it they want to see what's going on to see if they can figure out if there's a way to primalize i just think that that situation right now is unpredictable okay volatile yeah like we want back to markets yeah yeah stay out of it stay out of it i don't need my algo picking up on me saying anything. Let's not use the word market, by the way, around me. I don't care if you're going to shop. I don't care if you're talking about wide receivers. I don't care if you're doing anything.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't want to hear it on this particular thing. Not even a Fama's market? No, I don't want to hear it. You can say Fama's setup. Sure, okay. That would be great. Fama's markets. Fama's setups are a good time.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Great time. Very good time. Delicious. Very, very good time. Let's, Fama's setups are a good time. Great time. Very good time. Delicious. Very, very good time. Let's talk about something that is not a good time. Some injuries are starting to pop up. Go ahead, D. Butch. Yeah, we're staying at NFC West.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Puka Nakua, L.A. Rams. See a week-to-week now on a knee injury. Obviously more concerning than a day-to-day. What's the update there with Puka? Well, he left practice Sunday, and his knee was wrapped. And so when you see that, you worry about it, right? And I made some calls and basically what came back is it's not serious, but it's week to week. So when I hear week to week in the preseason, that tells me, I say,
Starting point is 00:32:16 okay, we won't see that guy until at the very least the last week of the preseason. Now the Rams are a team that doesn't play its regulars in the preseason very much anyway. So what that injury tells me is there's a real possibility that we won't see Puka at all until the regular season opener on week one. Do I think he's going to be there on week one in Detroit? I do. I don't think it's that problematic. But I think that that is an injury right now that is enough to sit him down and hold him out of the preseason games. We're not going to see him the first two weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:52 What was it? Is it Bruce Patello? They said PCL. Did we find out what it was? Because they were wondering whether it was when he hit the ground or if there was a little twisty twist or something like that. Don't know the exact diagnosis of the name, but you hear knee, wide receiver, and you say, again,
Starting point is 00:33:06 it's August 5th. Let's get them ready for September 5th, not August 5th. I guarantee that's their thinking right now. Hey, Godspeed, Uss. Godspeed, Uss. Let's stay in LA. Another injury. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shefty, do you have any updates on Justin Herbert's foot injury?
Starting point is 00:33:22 Because it seems like plantar fasciitis is one of those things that can kind of linger. And obviously Harbaugh told us exactly how he was going to handle it, and he did. But when exactly did this happen? And should there be more cause for concern for him than, hey, he'll be ready by week one? Well, I think if your quarterback has something like plantar fascia in his right foot, it's always problematic. And I think the reason
Starting point is 00:33:45 that they were so forthcoming about it is that basically they came out and said, we're putting him in a walking boot for two weeks. Basically, we're shutting him down. And then they're going to ramp him back up to try to get him ready for the regular season opener. Again, I expect Justin Herbert to play week one. I expect that this injury would be there for him. I expect that there'll be painkilling injections to deal with some of that pain on Sunday that he'll be able to get through without being too limited at all. But these are not fun injuries. They're very painful. They're very uncomfortable. And it's the kind of thing that they're trying to get a hold of now. Again, same thing like Puka. Okay, there's a knee.
Starting point is 00:34:25 It's not serious. But let's make sure that we do everything we can for the next month so that even if it means shutting them down in the preseason, so what? We got to have them for week one of the regular season. And that's what I think the Chargers are going to wind up doing. Now, where it's not ideal with Justin Herbert is it's a new head coach. It's a new offensive coordinator. It's a new offensive lineman it's some new receivers they moved on from mike williams and keenan allen you want to develop the chemistry with uh justin herbert so there's a lot
Starting point is 00:34:54 of changes and in a perfect world you'd have him out there going through all this but in a perfect world he it was not perfect because he suffered this injury to his right foot and they have to deal with it in the best way he can so the best plan now is to make sure he's as healthy as he can be for the opener and for the rest of the season. Shafty did we call it plantar fasciitis before or no? That would be a question for I've heard both I don't know if there's a distinction between the two I've heard plantar fascia I've heard plantar fascia. I've heard plantar fasciitis. I don't know which one it is. We know that they said plantar fascia, so we'll go with plantar flascia for right now.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Dr. Sheffield. Flascio? He's getting plantar flascio? That's going to play better than ever. It's a new study. He's got plantar flascio. He's got a whole new situation. That's going to be jacked up. If I appear to be a medical professional
Starting point is 00:35:46 that knows anything about playing in a fellatio, you are accurate. Could you imagine Jim Harbaugh all year doing the answer he gave? So pumped. So pumped that he tested it. The funny thing is, last week he came out and he goes,
Starting point is 00:36:00 I'm not going to be talking about injuries. Everybody is going to be trying to get over something. I think that was the phrase he used. He's trying to get over something. Get through it. And then like a day or two later, they just come out and they're like, Justin Herbert has plantar fascia. He's in a walking boot for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:36:17 We're going to ramp him back up with the idea that he should be ready for week one, which was a little bit more than getting through something. Yeah, he's getting through something, but we had details about him getting through whatever it was that he was getting through. So, again, I think it's the quarterback. It's the preseason. You can afford to do that. And let's just get this guy ready and get him to where he needs to be on opening day against the Raiders. Harbaugh's a beauty.
Starting point is 00:36:39 We're very pumped that he's back in the NFL, obviously, because him sticking to that index card that he wrote the answers for for whenever he's asked any medical questions other than himself. If you ask about me, I'll be able to answer, so I hope somebody does take the opportunity to ask him about his shoulder from 1984, where it popped out of place. How does it feel? Just so Harbaugh can give us an update. Speaking of an update,
Starting point is 00:37:00 how do you feel, Michigan, man? Uh-oh. Cheating son of a bitch. Oh, Shefty. How many texted Sharon Delete when he was texting you, Shefty? I spoke to him about 20 minutes ago. All good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Michigan people are saying all good here because yesterday the internet was upside down saying it's over. Obviously, people taking shots at Harbaugh, who we love. We'll have Thamel joining us here in about eight minutes, and a lot of people don't think he's very, you know, in this entire thing. The Michigan fans, they love Pete, right? Oh, he didn't put his big boy pants on. But what's happening now, I think Pete Thamel would potentially say, like, all I was saying was what was happening.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Like, all I was telling you is that the NCAA was investigating. All I was telling you is there's a science to it. Like, that's probably the insider world that you guys are in, breaking news and having to take – you guys take a lot of shots for shit that inevitably ends up being true. That is kind of how the game goes. And I think Pete Thamel will probably feel a little bit of that. But you're saying as a Michigan man,
Starting point is 00:38:00 are you worried about what was kind of released or leaked? As a Michigan man, as somebody who believes in Coach Moore, I'm not concerned. I'm not. I'm not. Now, again, I don't know what Pete knows, but I know I spoke to the man himself here for a while and feel pretty good about what he said,
Starting point is 00:38:19 and we'll see what happens here. I love Coach Moore. I've got a chance to learn a lot about him over this past offseason. Great guy. I love him. He's been incredibly kind to me. And about him over this past offseason. Great guy. Great. I love him. He's been incredibly kind to me. And Wink Martindale, obviously, New D.C., like, we are very – like, we love Wink Martindale.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I'll just say this. The defense looks good in practice. Yeah, I would assume. Yeah, you got Wink Martindale dialing up plays. Wink is fired up. Wink is all fired up about this defense. Him with – him disguising andising in college, these quarterbacks, the biggest adjustment for quarterbacks from college
Starting point is 00:38:47 to the NFL is understanding what the hell is happening in front of you. And then Wink is just going to be... That D-line, and they got the best corner prior to being a draft next year with Will Johnson. We saw on field level, boots on the ground. Cannot wait. But what will the punishments be? Will they be even allowed to win?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Will they be even allowed to win? We know, will they be even allowed to win? We'll talk to Pete Tam. We'll see what the NCAA... Hey, you know what? I was in Ann Arbor before that infamous trip back, and I took my wife and my daughter to brunch,
Starting point is 00:39:14 and online, this place is packed, and I take a step back, and I step on a guy's foot, and I'm like, oh, my... I fell over a little bit. I'm like, turn around.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And I turn around, and I'm like, whoa, you're Will Johnson, are you? Come on. I like him so far. I met him before. I stepped on Will's foot.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Trying to break his ankle. Planner fascia. Trying to get him planter fascia. Planner fascia. He's all ready to go for the season. He's a great kid. He's a great kid. That's all.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Yeah. I'll be excited to see what Pete Hamill says. All right. Last question from Hammer. Todd. Todd. Tone Diggs. Quick clear up.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Plantar fascia is the ligament. Plantar fasciitis is when the ligament is inflamed. Okay? See that? That's outstanding. Thank you. Just want to let you know that, Jeffy. So the plantar fascia gets the same thing.
Starting point is 00:39:58 No, plantar fascia is the actual body part. Plantar fasciitis is the condition. Oh, so he has plantar fasciitis on his plantar fascia is the actual body part. Plantar fasciitis is the condition. Oh, so he has plantar fasciitis on his plantar fascia. Bingo. Okay, so whenever they say plantar fascia, that is them trying to say, it is happening with this ligament. You can guess what the fuck's going on. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It's inflamed. He's getting through it. Classic. This is exactly what he was talking about. Okay, so plantar fascia, body part. Yep. Okay, thank youar fascia, body part. Yep. Okay, thank you, Tony. No problem.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Shefty, on Friday, I planted a seed into my brain that Justin Fields should and will be the starter of the Pittsburgh Steelers. And tell you what, that seed didn't stop growing over the weekend, more than I read and watched. Russ still isn't doing a ton of 11-on-11 team activities. Is there a chance that Justin Fields does take the pole position in Pittsburgh?
Starting point is 00:40:47 Again, we got to see what Russell's like when he gets back, but Russell had that pole position, you know, per Mike Tomlin, and let's see what happens when Russell gets back. But look, here's the thing. Justin Fields has gotten better and better
Starting point is 00:40:58 every practice, and they love the guy. He's a natural leader, and he's got support, but I still think that Russell, when he gets back, had the idea to be the pole position. But when someone's not practicing, it gives somebody else the opportunity. And Justin Fields, by all accounts so far, has come in and taken advantage of that and
Starting point is 00:41:16 impressed them with the way that he's played. And that's not surprising. The people in Chicago love the guy. And now he's getting a chance to impress people in Pittsburgh. And we'll see what Russell has to say about that when he gets back from this calf injury. Artie Smith seemingly beloved by everybody. George Pickens is singing his praises. I think Naj is as well.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I assume Muth is saying good things. Pat, Pat, who doesn't like somebody right now in training? Have we heard? Publicly, at least. Publicly as well, too. Yeah, yeah. Lions and the Giants. They haven't lost a game yet. Everything's going great. Everybody loves everybody rightly, at least. Publicly as well, too. Yeah, yeah. Lions and the Giants. They haven't lost a game yet.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Everything's going great. Like, everybody loves everybody right now, pretty much. Yeah, and you have to publicly. Except for the Lions and Giants fighting today. You know, they don't like it. Hey, that happens. How do you guys normally cover that in your sphere of journalists? It's like fights.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Because the way we led the show is like, that is a guaranteed fight. Just because as people that have, I've only been a part of one joint practice. It was with the Chicago Bears. And I think there was at least one big one each day that it happened. And as you're sitting on the sideline, if you're a person that is curious about stuff, which I happen to be, you actually look around and you go, how does this not end in a fight? Especially with some of the drills that take place and what they want to see and the situations that people are put in.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And then like, hey, there's only four open spots on the entire defense on this team, but on the other team, there's like potential seven roster spots. So it's your first time being showcased in front of their front office and their scouting department. It's like, it's a guaranteed brawl
Starting point is 00:42:41 and the Giants and Lions are fighting. And if you're a Giants fan, I think you should be pumped because not only did Daniel Jones get in, but the Lions are known to be gritty, tough. That's what we're going to do. And the Giants have had to answer the bell here. They've had to answer the bell, and I think they have.
Starting point is 00:42:54 That's what we learn from these types of situations. You know what? First of all, these things, they're a lot of great video. They're great for the aggregators because you play this video. It's like you want to watch. You want to see who's getting involved here, who's throwing punches. I don't know what it means. I know this, that it's been awfully hot on the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And I can't imagine being in pads and hitting people like for a couple hours at the end. You know, I think somebody is going to want to beat the crap out of somebody no matter what, because it's really warm and you get really agitated really quickly. And so maybe some of that is a byproduct of the weather going on because it's bad out. Schefter no matter what your league does to the kickoff there's always going to be physicality. That's right no matter what. What are you hearing from coaches about the kickoff? Here's where I stand I got asked about a lot this weekend was very fortunate to be in Canton to watch Dwight Freeney go in saw a lot of people caught up with a lot of people awesome the rain two hour delay lot of people. Awesome. The rain. Two hour delay.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Do you get to hang with Michael Jordan at all? No. Which is a fucking bummer. I had Jays on obviously. So I was going in. Smoking a stoke. Sweet. MJ's there. Hey, these ones pretty cool. Pretty cool. The rain got ruined.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Didn't know if you wanted to put me on a mailing list that potentially just gets new shoes every day. That'd be sweet to work that. I did not. But I saw basically all the Colts people from the past, you know, and everybody that has been around football for a long time. And the people in Canton obviously are great hosts for the Hall of Fame. Walked around. Obviously a lot of conversation.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Da, da, da, da. A lot of people asked me about the kickoff. Kickoff, kickoff. What do you think about the new kickoff? What do you think? Is this football? Is this football? Is this football? A lot of that. And it's like, well, the kickoff is going to be extinct. So it's either no kickoff or this kickoff. So whenever you're talking about that, I love it. I love the new kickoff, which I think is how it should be viewed. But I think we're not really going to know what
Starting point is 00:44:40 the hell this looks like until the regular season, because some people are saying they're disguising it. But also you don't have the 4-2, 4-3, 4-4 returners back there which is going to make this look very different than what's going to look all preseason. What's the conversation you're hearing from your people Shefty? I got some texts from people the morning after that they didn't like it right and I'm like it's one game let's wait and see what happens over the course of a pre like we're not judging on one game, but I think the one thing that special teams coaches noticed right away, coaches across the league noticed, everything just happens faster.
Starting point is 00:45:14 The holes close faster. The guys get to the returner faster. It just – it's bam, bam. And if you miss that little window for anything, then the play's over. To your point, it's something. They're trying to keep the kickoff alive because they were trying to take that play out of the game. But it's bam-bam.
Starting point is 00:45:34 It happens pretty quick. It's one game. I don't think we're ready to make any judgments yet. Let's see how the rest of the preseason plays out before we're casting any aspersions on whether this is a good or bad play right now. And believe me, I'm not the most like, we need to see more. We need to see more guy about anything.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Okay. But I think not only preseason, let's wait until a couple weeks into the regular season. See how the actual dudes are doing it. You know, so we can really figure it out. There's a lot. Hey, you're not the only one. I walked around that Hall of Fame talking to a bunch of ex-players and seeing a bunch of ex-players. This is happening under your watch, they're saying to me.
Starting point is 00:46:08 It's because we're on a microphone. And loud. They're like, this is under your watch. Yeah, it's happening to my... So they don't like it? They don't like it? Boy, I don't think I've talked to one football person that has been like, love what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I don't think anything. I mean one football person that has been like, love what's going on there. I don't think. I mean, Braun Breaker's head almost exploded. It did. Whenever he saw it. He played at Kennesaw State, classic football guy, intercontinental champion for the WWE. But on our show, Shep, it was the first time he found out. What's that?
Starting point is 00:46:37 They're changing the kickoff. It's not football. In his head, like almost. That's how a lot of football people feel. But I had to explain to him, like, hey, it's either, like, no kickoff or this kickoff. So, it's all. We like it. I'm afraid of what Ty said last week.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Like, it could be 12 touchdowns week one. That's awesome. These are good things. I'm in for that. These are good things. Less defense. We like that. More points.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Hey, we appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Senior NFL insider, friend of the program, Adam Schefter. Thank you. Yeah, everybody. Literally. What are they doing? That's not football. How about how it looks? A lot of people. A lot of these. 12 people on the field because it was windy?
Starting point is 00:47:18 12 people on the field. All right. I learned from your video. When are they going to go? That's great. Have you fucking answered that one? Oh, wait. That holder was 12 guys?
Starting point is 00:47:28 Yeah. Yeah, they're just there. I didn't know that. Just in case, you know. Just in case. Because that used to be, you know, one of us. One of the L or R1. Come hold it.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah, safety. Come hold it. Close your eyes. Don't fucking lift your hand. And it looks like practice. You know, like you said, everybody that's been on the football field, the coach or player, like it's a practice drill. Literally everybody has seen this before. practice. Like you said, everybody that's been on the football field, the coach or the player, it's practice drills. Literally
Starting point is 00:47:45 everybody has seen this before. And they've, oh, that's Thursday, Friday, late in season, need to save legs, got it. Oh, now that's how we start the game. Okay, great. This is how we start. This is how we start the entire game. A lot of negative juice. A lot of negative juice coming from a lot of important football people
Starting point is 00:48:01 that have played football. You know what's next, though? Guardians. If we're kicking the ball off like this, we've seen the Guardians with the logos on. That can't happen. The Guardians are next. Could you imagine walking through the Hall of Fame with one of those helmets
Starting point is 00:48:17 on going, this is the future. 15 dudes with CT. We don't love it, but it's probably true. Walk up and go, let's see how good they are. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. It's like, yo, yo. They'll take the punt next. They take the kickoff. I just immediately went into full on,
Starting point is 00:48:32 oh, you don't know. Because I was getting attacked. I was getting verbally assaulted about what the kickoff has become. This is under your watch. This is under your watch. You're on TV every single day. Talking sports. You have a relationship with the NFL, right? You're a kickoff. Look what
Starting point is 00:48:46 they're doing to your kickoff right in the middle of this. I'm like, have you watched the last couple years, though? They're like, no, I refuse to watch. They change what football's supposed to be. No run-up, no run, so kickoffs don't even play anymore. I'm like, you just gave me an answer. They've already. It wasn't under
Starting point is 00:49:02 my watch a few years ago whenever they were making all these changes, but I think it's going To end up being good I think it's going to be It's a lot better Than no kickoff Which means probably No punt
Starting point is 00:49:08 Which means no special teams You know as we kind of Go through the entire thing Let's keep this kickoff in here No matter how Mickey Mouse It looks It looks very Mickey Mouse And how are they going to start
Starting point is 00:49:17 I don't know how They're going to start on time I don't know how Any of that works They'll figure it out Joining us now Is a man who has it All figured out
Starting point is 00:49:22 And sometimes takes A lot of hate for it Ladies and gentlemen Joining us The is a man who has it all figured out and sometimes takes a lot of hate for it. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, the authority for college football, Pete Thamber. Pete, how you doing, Pete? Gentlemen. Oh, never been better, Pat. How about you? Oh, okay. You're feeling good. All right. All right. So let's talk a little bit about this. We'll dive right in. Obviously, last football season during their national championship run, right in. Obviously, last football season, during their national championship run, Michigan was in the middle of quite a large controversy. It involved a man named Connor Stallion, who was a
Starting point is 00:49:52 rogue agent who was stealing signs, sneaking into other people's sidelines. It became this like fairy tale fiction story that was happening concurrently alongside one of the most dominant runs a college football team has ever had. You were obviously right in the middle of it. You were the straw that was stirring the entire drink, breaking the news, saying this, saying that. Harbaugh suspended. Did Pete Tamill do the suspension? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Maybe, though, is kind of what it was. Now we hear about it for the first time since Coach Harbaugh has gone to the NFL. And Sharon Moore, who is the interim head coach, offense coordinator, who just coaches ass off towards the end of the season and also in Rose Bowl and in the national championship. He's involved. What are we hearing? What do we need to know from this leak? And what's going to happen with Michigan, Pete? And do you feel vindicated?
Starting point is 00:50:35 That's a whole other situation. So what happened was my colleague Dan Murphy and I obtained the notice of allegations draft to Michigan's NCAA case pertaining to Connor Stallions, as our friend Ty would like to say. No, no, Ty Peet. Ty Peet. Ty Peet. Sorry about that. Ty Peet. Ty, I bet you're kind of giddy today, aren't you? A little bit, right? A little bit excited this is back in the news cycle.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, we're pumped, Pete. Yeah. So Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're pumped Pete. Whenever we quickly put some things together and we learned that you could be back on the show couldn't make the call fast enough. Couldn't make the call fast enough to you pal. We're very appreciative. But with all this, what did we learn and what are we looking at here? The notice
Starting point is 00:51:20 allegations draft seven Michigan coaches, six former ones and then current coach Sharon Moore, have been implicated in this by the NCAA and are going to face punishment from the Committee on Infractions unless they negotiate resolution. Sharon Moore is obviously the headline of this, Pat. He's the current coach at Michigan. at Michigan in the notice draft. They say he's a repeat violator because of violations in the COVID era recruiting sanctions that Michigan got. And he was obviously suspended for the opener last year against East Carolina. So he faces, the draft says, potential suspension and perhaps a
Starting point is 00:51:59 show cause order. Now, it is just a level two allegation, so I wouldn't expect any huge fireworks on that. But I think one of the more relevant significant punishments that could come from this is some type of potential punishment for Sharon Moore. So if Sharon Moore ends up getting punished, suspended, that'll be just that's Michigan football now. Head coaches get suspended. You'll be able to move forward. They literally were able to win a national championship while that was taking place last year. One of the most mentally tough runs I think I've ever seen in sports and should potentially be talked about by what's going on in the locker room.
Starting point is 00:52:34 But they do all the plays! All right. I mean, there are certainly things you can argue for the entirety. Is there any chance from what you know right now that Michigan's going to be suspended from postseason play or not being able to win the Big Ten or anything like that? Or are we just talking about, I don't want to say semantics or mumbo jumbo, but kind of mumbo jumbo with this entire thing? Sure. So I obviously talk to people who sort of trade in this NCAA infraction space in the last 24 hours, Pat. The
Starting point is 00:52:59 one thing I'm certain of is that any accomplishments that they won will not be taken away those typically involve players who are not eligible and obviously there's really no players involved in this uh in this champions forever congratulations michigan wolverines yeah so that is that is that is as close to certain as you can possibly be when dealing with ncaa and then a postseason ban and again i i don't know if this is the right place to launch into like the nuance of NCAA legalese, but it's extremely difficult to get a postseason ban. The conventional thought in the current climate, current political climate, is that Michigan would likely get some type of giant fine from this as their other really punitive penalty.
Starting point is 00:53:42 From people I spoke to yesterday, I think it would shock the landscape of people who live in this infractions world every day if Michigan was given some type of postseason pay. Okay. All right. That's the story right there, right? I think everything else kind of fine. That means boosters, they'll be able to pay for.
Starting point is 00:53:58 They just put a $500 million facility or whatever. If there's a suspension to the coach, they've already gone through that. It won't be a vacated thing. Okay. So now it would just be about learning a little bit more about the story, which Ty, Pete has a question for you. Yeah, Pete. So if Sharon Moore was to be implicated in this whole ordeal, is there any chance that maybe we look at a guy like Connor Stallions and maybe see him exonerated a tiny bit? Because obviously his good name was besmirched. I know he does have a Netflix documentary coming out,
Starting point is 00:54:27 one of the Untold, and I believe he is the main character, so we might get some additional information. But are they still planning on kind of just hanging this whole thing on Connor Stallion's head, or is she potentially going to have his name exonerated because she has kind of just been made a huge piece of shit in the world of college football. Well, if you read the draft notice, Ty, which I did, I did front to back two times, it really shows the breadth and the extent of the of the illicit in-person scouting
Starting point is 00:55:01 scheme that Connor Stallion's orchestrated. There were 58 instances of illegal off-campus scouting that the NCAA alleges. That includes 53 games and 13 different opponents. I found some of those details to be really interesting. We knew he did this a lot, but over a three-year span, and it grew. It grew from 21 to 22. I thought it was really interesting, Pat, in 2022, they said that Michigan illegally off-campus scouted one program seven different times. So they said people do seven games of one of their opponents to steal the signals and bring them back to Stallions. And, you know, it was interesting. I've read way more of these notice of allegations over the years than you would ever want to do. And I found this one pretty interesting that Conor Stallion's really left a lot of breadcrumbs. They cite calendars. They cite hard drives with protected passwords. Yeah, like he basically like didn't do a very good job covering his tracks. And you could almost sense
Starting point is 00:56:00 the giddiness of the NCA investigators in the notice to say how much hard evidence they had. But if you remember too, Pat, the interesting thing about this case, and what's made it one of the most unique ones I ever covered, was the NCAA was basically brought all this information, which is why the Big Ten ended up suspending Jim Carbaugh for the final three games of the season. This wasn't like, hey, this might be happening, let's go find it. three games of the season. This wasn't like, hey, this might be happening. Let's go find it. It was like, here is this intricate scheme and here are all these details of this intricate scheme. They're playing Michigan State on Saturday. The Big Ten makes the unprecedented
Starting point is 00:56:36 decision to call out one of their own members, let people know what they're doing in order to protect the integrity of the rest of the season. So it's not surprising that there are just so many different things. I mean, obviously, remember, he used his own credit card. That was one of the big tells in all this. So it was interesting as an experienced reader of this to see how much detail there was about the scheme at Stallions. All right. We'll see you next hour, Pete.
Starting point is 00:57:04 We appreciate the hell out of you, pal. We'll see you then. Cheers. At Desjardins, we speak business. We speak equipment modernization. We're fluent in data digitization and expansion into foreign markets. And we can talk all day about streamlining manufacturing processes. Because at Desjardins Business, we speak the same language you do, business. So join the more than 400,000 Canadian entrepreneurs who already count on us and contact Desjardins today. We'd love to talk business. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:57:47 We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living it is a glorious time to be alive in the world of sport which we are chatting about and we are just toxic to was here at boss corner attachment how many days away from nfl football nfl football is 31 days college football is 19 days. Yeah. We made it. Yeah, it's crazy. We're here. We did it. You know, there's, at the end of like a workout or a sprint,
Starting point is 00:58:19 let's say there's like five minutes left worth of shit to do. Yeah, you can see the time. You think in your head, though, I can do anything for five minutes. That's how you get through. That's how you get through. That's how you get through. Hey, you got three more 1-10s to run. It's like I can do three 1-10s. That's all I got left.
Starting point is 00:58:37 It's like when you think you can just do whatever to get to the finish line, that's a really empowering feeling. 19 days until college football? Yeah, 19 days until Ireland. We could do anything for 19 days. Without a doubt. We can get to college football to kick that thing off between Georgia Tech and Florida State, which should be an absolute banger for the lads of Ireland. We'll be lucky to be there.
Starting point is 00:58:55 We cannot wait to get there. Also, breaking news. Our show will be live in Dublin on Friday. On Friday. We'll have more information on that tomorrow or Wednesday. We'll be live in Dublin on Friday, the day before week zero of college football season kicks off for Florida State and Georgia Tech
Starting point is 00:59:14 to embattle in Dublin. We cannot wait to get over there. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Training camps are happening. 20-plus days away from NFL football, 19 days away from college football. 19 days away from college football. How do you think the boys are feeling? Do you think guys are in football shape at this
Starting point is 00:59:30 point now? This deep in the training camp and everything? Absolutely. Most of the guys, you know, they're pros. They're pros away from the building and if they're not in shape, they got in shape pretty quick once you get back in the building. So, I'm excited. Obviously, every year is a new team. Regardless of how many people come back, every year is a new team. You got a new coach. You got's a new team you got new coach you got new players you got new systems uh i cannot wait to
Starting point is 00:59:49 see how it all plays out we always have it all mapped out okay these guys are going to win the division these guys are going to win the conferences and then it plays out a different way outside of the chiefs so i'm excited to see how this year plays out yeah these guys are going to suck these guys are going to be great you saying outside of the Chiefs is hilarious because they were having a good middle of training camp. Just jacking around. Middle of training camp, they're at Morgan Wallen's concert with Source
Starting point is 01:00:13 telling me that number seven is Morgan Wallen's number. So anytime there's a chance to wear number seven, he is going to wear number seven. It's a custom jersey, too. It's like his number. Sports growing up.
Starting point is 01:00:27 His name on the back. Now, you're going to have to ask him if he knew what all was going to happen and how it goes. That's on him to answer, but I think the internet immediately goes, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then Travis Kelsey's there living his life. Patrick Mahomes having a good time. Stone Cold Chris Jones is there.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And that's just the thing about this team. It looks like they're all closer than they've ever been. Remember, Chris Jones, there was a little bit of shit going on. Their team is closer. They're more mature. They got more weapons. And somehow they're possibly on the precipice of doing something that has never been done before, which is three straight Lombardis.
Starting point is 01:01:04 They shouldn't be this relaxed, this comfortable. How about a practice, Patrick Mahomes? We're doing, we're doing, we're literally doing the, oh, what's it called when you get drunk? Dizzy bat. They're doing the dizzy bat, the Louisville chugger. They're doing a Louisville chugger in practice. You never know when you're going to beat this warrior, Pat.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He's blindfolded. He's spinning. That's the other way. That's the other way that's the other way other teams doing everything they can to catch his team what are the chiefs doing i see four nets how many what hole you want me we're gonna have to yeah yep that's where it's at right there aiming completely off the net almost strike yep almost throws a full strike now i will say as a louisville chugger extraordinaire where i have never not made contact with beer cans.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Sure. After doing it, I have fallen over afterwards and then just passed out. Of course. That's going to happen. For seven, eight hours. Yeah, it's going to happen. Patrick Mahomes, he went on to do something else afterwards. This guy's a superhero.
Starting point is 01:01:58 He's a superman. They seemingly have it figured out more so than they've ever been before, and they're having more fun. And they're having more fun. He's got another chip too i don't know if you saw the uh top 100 the top 10 top five we probably all expected a certain person to be number one i'm glad who was number one that was our offseason super bowl but sure he's i'm sure he he'll he'll be thinking about that all season long where he was uh ranked tyreek, number one player in the NFL, voted on by the players. Lamar Jackson, number two player in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Christian McCaffrey, just got a new deal. Same with Tyreek Hill. If you're up there in the top ten, I assume you're asking your agent, yeah, we could probably go get some more money right now. And then number four player on earth in football right now, Patrick Mahomes. It's the best. It's the absolute best because, obviously, Patrick Mahomes will say publicly that it doesn't matter. And he's honored to be up there and yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:02:49 But behind closed doors, whenever he's drinking a couple Coors lattes, and his dad's around, and his friends are around, and we've seen this from quarterback this series, they're going to say, oh, you're fourth best guy. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, back-to-back Super Bowls. Able to do things nobody else is able to do. Last year had to win in a completely different fashion you've only continued to evolve only continue
Starting point is 01:03:08 to get better you've been being compared to tom brady since you're like 24 years old you're the four okay okay wide receiver for miami dolphins that by the way came to your came to yours too cold to operate but what'd you do yeah slice that you forth like they are just throwing that out and when you're at the top of the mountain, you can find something like that to happen. Boy, it's going to get even more dangerous. This is absurd where they're at, how they're at, and everything that's happening around them.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I don't like it. Not one bit. But I am happy for them. Congratulations to the Chiefs and the Chiefs' kingdom. Who gets to celebrate all this shit. Absolutely. This is like the reverse Pro Bowl situation that you talk about, right? Where, like, guys get it, and it's just like, okay, I know this guy. I'll vote him in.
Starting point is 01:03:46 A couple people just out of spite were like, you know what? Let's rate Mahomes the 97th best player in the NFL. He had probably a bunch of ones, and then a couple people were like, yeah, you know what? A hundred. Yeah, I'm going to name him 100 or 98, and then that'll really skew the average, and he's not going to be the – because isn't it just universal at this point? He is the best player in the NFL, period. Jam jamar chase he wouldn't say his name in his interview there's exactly what happened yeah what jamar chase actually when they brought up patrick
Starting point is 01:04:13 mahomes he's like i'm not saying him like i'm not saying his name joe burrow is my quarterback he's the best quarterback of the nfl like he refused to even say patrick mahomes i saw there was people that are upset that aaron rogers made the top 100 list of last year's season and he only played four actual four snaps. That's fair. But definitely fair, but I think people are also judging the American flag run-up. That was a couple top 10 moments. Yeah, that's like at least 15 plays. That was like the number one play of the year.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Yeah, bingo. On 9-11. In the shadows of New York City. I mean, absolutely have to have that. But all these things are all bullshit. Yeah, best rehab too, just for Rodgers. I mean, best rehabber in the 2024 NFL season. New Achilles surgery.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Very advanced. Think about that. That was a good play. It was. They also showed videos of him balancing one-legged to all the teams around the NFL before they did this vote. They said, look, this is what he's able to do. You're not able to do that. He was ready to come back
Starting point is 01:05:12 if they were in position week 18. Well, week 17, I think, actually. He was going to play a couple weeks. Remember, we wouldn't give away the date, but it was certainly possible. And then there was a 0% chance they were going to make the playoffs. Well, I ain't going to risk it. Top 100 player, though. That's a lot't going to risk it. No. No point. Top 100 player, though.
Starting point is 01:05:26 That's a lot of respect. Or that's people not paying attention. And that is potentially what people need to remind Patrick Mahomes, especially if he's playing against your team. If he's playing the Colts game, which we have a pretty good record against him, I'm going to let him know, hey, people, they're joshing with you. They're not. We think you're the best here.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Wait until we cheer for you when you come out. We want you to be great. Because he's the type of guy that whenever he gets, he does a switch, flips. That quarterback series taught us a lot about Patrick Mahomes and the type of person he is. You talk shit to him. He is, that's a... The Crosby moment.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Hey, let's not wake him up. He is a let's not wake him up guy. And feels like the NFL is continuing to do as such somehow. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's always awake, never sleeps. Always does a workout. That's why he is a college football national champion somehow. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's always awake, never sleeps, always does a workout. That's why he is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner.
Starting point is 01:06:10 He's not an Olympic gold medalist, though. No. Former president of Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Yay! A.J., how about the number fourth best player in the NFL voted on by the players, Patrick Mahomes, potentially having another thing
Starting point is 01:06:24 to build a little bit of spite up about. And then how about how relaxed they are? Middle of training camp. We're out at the morning wall in concert. We're having a good old time.
Starting point is 01:06:31 We're doing our thing. And I saw John Gruden walking around practice. I mean, they are. That team is somehow more relaxed, more comfortable, and more confident
Starting point is 01:06:39 than they've ever been, as they should be. But it's not normally this way. Normally things get tight. People get tight when they're at this point because all eyes are on them, pressure's on them. We're going to do some Louisville chugging at the end of the practice.
Starting point is 01:06:51 It's wild, AJ. It's truly wild. Yeah, I mean, I've never really seen this done at an NFL practice, and I think they should implement this at the combine probably. Don't you think you get great guys each year? If they did this in college and you could compare Mahomes' little drunk football throw to other people's drunk football throw, it would be another way to evaluate these players
Starting point is 01:07:09 and kind of predict their future. What's the name of that independent brain person that's watching games and stuff? The Unc. The unaffiliated neurological consultant. Something like that. The Unk.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Imagine the unk watching his practice going, now why are you guys doing that? Well, if he feels dazed and he needs to be able to complete a pass. And the unk's like, if he's dazed, he's not on field. I was like, well, we'll see if you catch him. Like, imagine him. Yeah, you're trapped. Imagine him being out and then getting up and then doing the play. What if he did practice this?
Starting point is 01:07:42 Hey, we're going to practice getting dinged up pretty hard, receiving the call in my speaker from my coach, and executing the play. Are you all right, Pat? Mm-hmm. Pukes. In the huddle. Calls the play.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Gets under center. And then he goes back to his training. If I remember right, I've got to aim way left. All right. There you go. Whatever his thing is. And then Kelsey's storming down the middle. He's just staring.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Staring this way. Boom. Touchdown. No look pass from Patrick Mahomes. And then in the interview after, he goes, if we would have done that Louisville chugger practice, I would have never been able to complete that pass. And then you got some doctor going,
Starting point is 01:08:19 you should not be puking and stumbling around the field and playing anymore in 2024. Wild time. They're just dicking off. Yeah. Just having fun. They're just dicking off. Yeah. Just having fun. They're just dicking off.
Starting point is 01:08:29 There was another play, what, four throwbacks? Mm-hmm. Hey, they're messing with people there, don't you think? They're kind of just messing with, hey, like every defensive coordinator we're going to play this year. Like, there's going to be a guy week 15 that's going to pull this play up from camp. Like, hey, they always have this, guys. Remember, this is something we've got to work on. That number one is all by himself a lot in these practices that i'm watching a lot a lot that number one is all by himself fastest guy in the history of the combine is somehow on what team they can't see chiefs of course sweet of course
Starting point is 01:08:55 it's fun second fastest guys now ridiculously paid down in miami he was on team as well uh speaking of fast guys joining us ladies and gentlemen from france covering basketball for espn originally from ohio hailing from omaha nebraska former three guard for lebron james's high school basketball team brian winters i'm the best three guard Akron, Ohio has ever produced. Mr. Hawk. Sir. Good to see you, Wendy. Good to see you with your squad, too, back in the day.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah, and the way you run up and down that court, people said, Wendy's a beast. Wendy's a dog. Wendy's going to be the greatest basketball journalist of all time. That's right. And the stats you've been putting up over in France are certainly remarkable remarkable are you still driving an hour and a half facing backwards every single day or how is the olympic coverage continue to go i know our women's three on three just semi-final just happened yeah we got eight um they lost by two that's uh that's some weird basketball that
Starting point is 01:09:59 three on three i respect them trying to do it but i can't get with we have a league wendy we have the big three we have a three on three league like we have we have that they play it professionally full-time i know let's send them let's send them over there i don't know what we got going on we are asked to beat there but the ladies make it to the semis which means they have a bronze medal match coming up which we're going to win so we're're gonna medal against canada too oh three o'clock today okay let's beat them let's beat them anyways windy two hours you've been driving how has it been the vibe seemingly still immaculate the men's team has a game tomorrow quarterfinals at 3 30. how are we feeling how do we feel about the team and the vibes of france we're over the trips to leal are over that's two hours made the trip seven
Starting point is 01:10:45 times back and forth I think the Americans made it six times total they went back and forth three times but now we're in Paris it's all gonna be in Paris tomorrow at Bear Sea Arena and they're in a good place right now guys now look this is now single elimination for the gold. They've played three games in 14 days. Now they've got to win three and five. It's a lot. The competition is a lot tougher.
Starting point is 01:11:16 We've got 13 MVP trophies represented in this final eight. Now, most of them are on the American team, but still you've got some 13 MVP trophies. You got 11 of the 15 players from the All-NBA team still here. You got some beasts out here. You got the rookie of the year, Victor Wemba Nyama. You got the defensive player,
Starting point is 01:11:35 Rudy Gobert. So, this last three is going to be tough, but they're in a good spot. They got 10 guys averaging seven points. They got all of them. They all shoot between six and ten a game. Nobody gets
Starting point is 01:11:52 more than ten shots a game. Nobody gets less than six. They all play between 18 and 22 minutes, those ten guys. And they're like, you know, in talking to them, they're like, look, someday KD might have a great game. Someday Anthony Edwards might have a good game. Maybe it's going to be
Starting point is 01:12:08 Steph Curry's turn next. Maybe it'll be LeBron. They're chill. They're totally cool with their roles. They're totally cool with the way it's playing. They're all in a good place. Now look, it's single elimination. They've got a bad corner, and all of a sudden, you're in trouble. But, I honestly think
Starting point is 01:12:23 that they're in a really good place and they're playing really well. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Obviously things are going well. Easy to be a team. I think we'll be excited to see whenever some adversity strikes like in the pre-Olympics stuff. But everybody setting their ego aside for the betterment of the
Starting point is 01:12:39 team is a beautiful thing and a depiction of the Olympics. Speaking of the Olympics, Scotty Scheffler said that whenever he went and watched the gymnastics teams on the top of the podium the night before or something like that, he got emotional because of their story and what they were doing, who they were representing. Then he wins. He gets on top of the podium. He starts getting choked up. I know that the basketball team has been traveling around watching other sports. Is there a sense of like Olympic pride almost amongst the men's basketball team
Starting point is 01:13:04 with the rest of the Olympians as well? This is so like, there's so many incredible athletes doing their thing here. Like, so yesterday, Sunday, you had Novak Djokovic winning at Roland Garros. He gets the gold medal that, you know, uh, he'd never, he'd done everything in his career except for winning the gold. He wins the gold. Then across town, you got Noah Lyles winning one of the most epic races of our lifetime. Then outside of town, you got Scotty Scheffler with a cool 29. How about a 29 on the back nine on a Sunday? Course record.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Course record. Course record. 29. John Rahm shot 39. Scotty sheffield shot 29 that's how that's how you get it done okay so we do um you got simone biles you know on saturday night getting it done you know the u.s uh guys have gone to see her do her thing um and then you got lebron steph durant what i call the first ballot trio, getting ready to do their thing. By the way, the women's team, it's awesome to see them do their thing. To see all these athletes, a lot of them American, all dominating, all in the same city. That's one of the things that USA
Starting point is 01:14:16 wanted. It was a pain to go back and forth between here and Lille, even though Lille is a nice little town. I liked being there. They had to take trains. Then the trains got firebombed at one point, and they had to take buses. And it was a pain. But they wanted the Americans to be able to go to the other American events. So LeBron went to beach volleyball. Durant went to three-on-three basketball. Steph went to see indoor volleyball.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Durant went to see, and a bunch of guys went to see Simone Biles do her thing. Ping pong. Oh, yeah. Ann Edwards was all about ping pong. So they wanted to make sure they were in Paris to do that. And so it's kind of a cool thing to have all these athletes, especially all these great Americans, all in one town, like every two hours.
Starting point is 01:15:04 You're welcome, France. Some great Americans coming over again. Yeah, you're welcome. You know, that is, uh, that is a fantastic thing for the good of sport too, you know, cause with how big this event, the Olympics is supposed to be in the eyes of everybody, like us buying in and sending all of our studs and stars over there is a massive ordeal for the future of the Olympics and sending all of our studs and stars over there is a massive ordeal for the future of the olympics in the future of sports in growing games and sports and other places around
Starting point is 01:15:31 the world who maybe haven't seen like for instance i hope some of our athletes that went over there saw a handball and they paid themselves okay hey quick question before aj has one and the boys have one for you um could kevin durant play for the men's national team and also do the three on three on his side kevin durant would be the greatest three on three player ever because you got a rebound yeah well i mean kairi i mean first off three on three is hard i i don't like the the game but three on three is hard because you can there's a 12 second shot clock and then like they defend you taking the ball back.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Like it's very exhausting, but like Kevin Durant and Kyrie, forget about it. Well, could they play both? I wonder, is that possible? It should.
Starting point is 01:16:12 No, I don't think you could honestly, to be honest with you, I don't think they could play both because three on three is so exhausting. I know that they're only seven games, but they got a Tyrese and Embiid. Whoa, whoa,
Starting point is 01:16:22 whoa. Send them over. Whoever the bottom three on our roster are, congrats. You get to play a full game of another sport, and we're going to get two golds. We're just brainstorming because we can't have what happened this year ever happen again. Well, we had bad luck because Jimmer tore his adductor muscle.
Starting point is 01:16:38 So then they had to play with only three. You only got four guys on the team, and you only got one sub, and Jimmer tore his adductor. He's our best best three-on-three guy and that was bad luck yeah that's what i heard seriously though like think about the guys that didn't come over like jalen brunson jalen brown like there are so many luka garza yeah kairi kairi and that thing would be so awesome because we'd be squaring off against somebody and let's say there's somebody that is very gettable so kairi just yeah literally you know oh yeah oh my god the whole all three of them i assume there would be a there'd be a highlight either just kairi ever let me tell you why kairi would be amazing he always just kind of jogs around oh my god
Starting point is 01:17:19 even after you like even even even after there's a made basket, you've got to take the ball back, and the team can defend you taking the ball back. You get the rebound, and they get to defend you as you go to the take-back line. If you had Kyrie, he could work his dribble magic leaving and coming back. He could just dribble through everybody nonstop.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Plus, all of his layup package, he might be the greatest. And, of course, the two-point shot. I don't know why every shot is not taken in that sport. It's not a two-pointer. I wonder if the boys feel like it's not good enough for them to go do. Yeah, or you have to step down. So we need to be loud about how, hey, we need to win. No, seriously, you know why?
Starting point is 01:18:03 If you want real talk about it, I'll tell you why. Because they don't – FIBA doesn't really want the U.S. to do good at three-on-three. They really want that to be for countries that can't field five-on-five teams. And so they do all these things. They have all these different layers and layers and layers of things you have to do to qualify. I don't just mean the team.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I'm talking about no – Like Kyi can't just show up and play the only way you can play is if you like play in like 15 qualifying events it's not 15 i'm just coming up with that number massive commitment massive commitment to make the team to get there what you're talking about is what they what's what they don't want they don't want guys from america oh they're fucking us got it he was fucking us big fan even more reason even more reason for us to go do it we gotta they gotta figure that out then bingo go ahead aj i didn't know that was the of course feeble makes sense yeah it doesn't make much sense wendy but hey that's i mean i hate us too because honestly caitlin clark that was something that caitlin clark could have done now she may not have wanted to do it, but if
Starting point is 01:19:06 Caitlin Clark played, can you imagine what that would have been like? But there was like 15 hoops that she would have had to jump through because FIBA doesn't care about ratings. They just care about growing the game and everything else outside the U.S., so that's just not their priority. That is admirable.
Starting point is 01:19:23 We do appreciate that, but the Olympics, we're trying to find the best. Like, okay, let's find the best in this entire thing. Anyways, go ahead, AJ. Sorry about that. FIBA doesn't want us to win? There's FIBA trying to hold us back. Why is FIBA doing this?
Starting point is 01:19:36 I don't know. You know what the F stands for? What? Fuck Over America International Basketball Association. Bingo. One word. Wow. That gets me seeked up a little bit. You should. Bingo. One word. Wow. That gets me zipped up a little bit.
Starting point is 01:19:48 You should. We're supposed to win that thing. We got Jimmer for dead out there. This guy's got 17 appointments he's got to make before he can even represent our team. He's driving around. It's something like that. He's riding a bicycle around.
Starting point is 01:19:57 He's tearing his adductor off of something trying to get to all these appointments. That's unbelievable. I mean, I love Jimmer. Why is FIBA running it? Why are they the ones that run it? They're the international committee. I'm telling you, FIBA is different. You know how David Stern... Is Adam Silver not
Starting point is 01:20:11 sitting on the board at FIBA? Why doesn't he play? Mark Tatum is on the board. Why isn't Adam Silver on our three-on-three team? You know how David Stern once said that the ideal matchup for the NBA in the playoffs was the Lakers against the Lakers. And, like, you know, nobody says it, you know, on the record, but really they want, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:33 it would be great for the NFL if the Cowboys, you know, were in the Super Bowl, right? Like, let's just be honest. FIBA is the exact opposite. Like, if the U.S. gets gets knocked off they won't say it publicly but under the table they'll be pumping their fists not because they hate the u.s but because they want it to be more of an international game and stuff like that so there's a lot of stuff that goes into this international basketball yeah it's just everything is just different here like for example yeah like you can't buy merch here i don't get it the merch
Starting point is 01:21:08 what am i here they're not selling foam fingers you don't have a single mug you ain't there ain't a foam finger in all of freaking france not even a pen no forget about what about a bottle like a sports sports where is it where do we get it then what What about glasses? With the mustache and the nerves. The merch situation here is terrible. It's terrible. They just don't care about it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:21:35 But you know, they want a certain environment. Give me a fucking fanny pack. Put all their eggs in the opening ceremony. Yeah, well, they need to get money back potentially from that time. Took over the whole city. I don't know if you saw it. The big one.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Oh, yeah, with the fire. Yeah. Yeah. Why didn't they have gaga on there? Gaga is. We talked about that. Yeah, you're right. We'll get that.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Anyway, sorry about the merch setup. But with FIBA not wanting America to win I guess what we saw in another game could potentially go ahead Ty yeah Wendy how high is the level of concern that FIBA is just going to screw us over that the refs are going to screw us over we saw what happened between France and Japan earlier in the tournament with that little phantom you know and one three point call um so with you saying that like hey they'd love if we got beat like how high are your antennas on okay there's a good chance it's fiba well you just said it though well it's not that fiba wants the u.s to lose i think they just like it they like the idea of there being better
Starting point is 01:22:39 competition they they like the idea of the american women not winning their eighth straight gold and the u.s winning their fifth straight men's goal. Viva hates greatness. Got it. Viva hates greatness. Got it. That's all I need to say. Classic Europe.
Starting point is 01:22:52 That's all I need to say. Work hard. Get better. Become the best. Can't win. Don't like it. They are going to screw us over, though. This Brazil game is going to be closer than for no reason at all.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Well, we know there's a lot of reasons. I'm just learning them from Wendy. Yeah. LeBron's going to have three fouls within the first two minutes of the game. I actually think the officiating has been pretty fair so far. I know that South Sudan freaked out. They did.
Starting point is 01:23:17 They thought they got screwed. I actually didn't see that game because I was working the postgame of the U.S. game, so I don't know what happened there, and I know that that happened, but in the games that I've watched, I think the officiating generally has been okay. All right. I hope that's the case.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Let's get back to Team USA here. Wendy, are you okay? Blink twice. Everything all right over there? Yeah, okay. Got it, got it, got it. I'm learning a lot here. I still got to go to three more games.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Yes. Get in the building. Get in the building, Wendy. We need your coverage. We need to. This is journalism here. This is journalism here. Speaking of got to go to three more games. Yes. Get in the building. Get in the building, Wendy. We need your coverage. We need to – this is journalism here. This is journalism here. Speaking of journalism, go ahead, D-Bud. Yeah, speaking of us, I know I heard Steve Kerr make a quote about Kevin Durant
Starting point is 01:23:53 not starting. He wasn't there from day one, but he's been playing great. And obviously the competition will continue to get tougher. You've been giving us the lineups, basically, and the previews of the upcoming teams. Brazil coming up, whoever else is coming up after that Any anticipation that Kevin Durant Cracks that starting lineup
Starting point is 01:24:10 And who will be the starting lineup Because obviously you know Yeah, I don't think he's gonna But I mean, if things change They'll change it up I mean, they've changed the starting lineup all three games They've had a different leading scorer all three games They've had a different starting lineup
Starting point is 01:24:24 That different guy has sat out all three games although drew holiday sat the last one because of his ankle um i think they're just gonna kind of try to work it game to game like the one thing i'll be interested like now serbia so they play brazil serbia plays australia potential rematch with serbia in the next round last time the u.s played serbia you know steve kerr didn't use jason tatum you know would he use him this time my guess is yes um but uh you know durant here's what's going on steve kerr is prioritizing um defense over everything and it's interesting because there's been some controversy over here with the french team um it hasn't probably gotten to america because it's all
Starting point is 01:25:05 the trash talk has been in french but like evan fournier who plays for the pistons now we're playing for the knicks last year um he like ripped his coach after the french lost the other day and he's like we got to focus more on offense our basically you know the translation isn't perfect he said you know attack is more important than our defense is our attack, basically. Our best defense is our offense. And the coach snapped back at him
Starting point is 01:25:33 and was like, he's got to answer for that and all this stuff. And then the coach said that Victor Webinyama is holding the ball too much, even though he's having great numbers. So, like, the French are arguing. This is so French. Isn like the classic french arguing this is so french isn't this like the most this is so french oh i love it the french have been accused of having issues with their defense in the past i will say that hey i'm just impaired everything is great in
Starting point is 01:25:57 paris um no this is boots on the ground wendy this is what we need to hear wendy's getting shots called at him by the coach. Wemby could have won every single award last year from some NBA players in the NBA, but over there to another Frenchman, pal. You just learned how to move the ball. How about in that Serbian game with the United States? I saw Joker
Starting point is 01:26:18 want to do a different plan than what the coach was doing. The coach was calling for full court press, pretty much, and Joker was like, no, we need to get back, and then lo and behold the united states gets ball and shakes shimmy foul all right there's another foul and we're shooting and they put joker who doesn't ever give anything he kind of does one of these and then the coach is like telling i didn't even think about potential relations between like the best basketball players from their country ever and then the people from from their country they are coaching the team.
Starting point is 01:26:46 There's probably a little bit of – There's so much going on, Pat. There's so much going on here that is wild. So like Jokic plays a bigger role for the Nuggets than he does for Serbia, which I think is crazy. Then you fuck him alone. There you go. Like he's only playing, like, 27 minutes a game.
Starting point is 01:27:07 And, like, they sort their coaches like old school, old, old, old school. Yeah, so that was what it was. Svetlana Pesic. And he wants to, like, run a system. Like, the Serbian way is to run the system. And they run their system, even though, like, it's better off with Jokic, like, having the ball, like, 98% of the time. to run the system and they run their system even though like it's better off with jokic like having the ball like 98 of the time like they run their system because that's the serbian way and like you
Starting point is 01:27:31 know i jokic doesn't talk to the media over here he hasn't talked to the serbian media since like 2016 or something so um he doesn't talk to our media either over here he's nice about it he goes uh thank you, but no. So we don't really know how he's thinking. But I also think that Serbia might be doing some really elaborate rope-a-dope. Because I think they're holding stuff back that they're trying not to show the U.S. Oh, the coach is too smart. That if they play him again, that they're going to pull some stuff out.
Starting point is 01:28:05 There's wild stuff that goes on in these games man he's too good of a coach for joking you don't understand right okay listen i'm trying to explain to you okay let me explain how this goes you don't show them shit you don't play at all they think these itches are bad at basketball we're not then whenever we get in there you're gonna play more because you're our best player by genius so interesting to think about the dynamic because coach probably empowered right by whoever for sure hey this is your team oh yeah this is your team country this is your team this is our country Joker needs to fall in line just like everybody like yeah so yokich his his plus minus when they played the U.S was zero zero he sat for seven minutes i think and the u.s that
Starting point is 01:28:46 wild scored him 29 to 3 when he was on the bench yep so if i'm playing the u.s again and serbia's got to be australia it's not guaranteed the u.s got to be brazil yoko j coming out of the game yoko j coming out of the game and he's had the ball every single possession. But that has not been the Serbian way. Thinking about, and we're at a very 30,000-foot view here, but just potential stereotypes of coaches, people, things, areas. Now, we talk about Team USA having to put their egos aside. Americans are known for being arrogant. That's literally what we're known for. So the big thing with our team is got to be able to put the egos aside, see are known for being arrogant. That's kind of what we're, that's literally what we're known for.
Starting point is 01:29:26 So the big thing with our team is like, gotta be able to put the egos aside, see if they can buy in. I wonder what they're saying about other teams. Like, hey, if the Serbians are able to put down their bureaucracy a little bit in a way they are so authoritarian, they could potentially win this game. I wonder what their fans are saying
Starting point is 01:29:42 or people say about those teams as we're talking about it. That's kind of something that's going to – Like the French. Like the French. If these guys won't turn on each other, we might have a chance at silver this year. Yeah, like are the French people that are having a cafe or whatever, no deodorant, just smelling?
Starting point is 01:29:55 Have you noticed that? Have you noticed that, I assume? Yeah, so when you're on social media over here, like the coach's name is trending and you can go see him. And they're running memes making fun of their coach. It goes on. That's awesome. That's good to hear.
Starting point is 01:30:11 That's the Olympics. Speaking of the Olympics, you've got a lot of greats around each other for the first time. Connor's got a question for you. Yeah, Wendy, I saw you say on your podcast that a possible super team coming from this Olympics would be Ant and KD possibly linking up in Minnesota. Is that still the case you think? Those were the exact words I said, Connor. Thank you for accurately quoting me.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Of course. Hey, anytime, Wendy. I listen to what you say like NBA gospel. But is that the only one? We're not the only ones that listen to what you say on this show either, by the way. There'll be a question about that coming up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:41 So anyway, Durant's under contract for a long time with with phoenix i'm just saying like the durant uh ant's relationship is amazing to watch and like ant like trails him around like he's his big brother like he he sits next to him on the bus he shoots next to him before the games like and ann is having so much fun playing with KD and LeBron. And Ann had a great quote yesterday. He said, I told LeBron, if LeBron, if you've got the ball and you don't think that you've got a shot, please give it to me and I'll find one. I just love that because, like, that's how he plays. And so, yeah, but this is the thing about Ann. Ann trash talks Dur durant the whole day
Starting point is 01:31:27 i you know he's trash talking him in practice i can't i gotta believe they're trash talking when they're hanging out um so there's no doubt there's a connection there and ant loves him because he wants to see him play in like some pro like some some pro league like summer ball when he was a kid in atlanta and like, I think Durant is, like, 14 or 15 years older than Ant. Like, it's like a wild, like, big brother, little brother thing. But those two guys are definitely bonding. And Durant just loves it. Durant just enjoys it.
Starting point is 01:31:59 He just sort of smiles at him. Because, you know, Durant is really subdued. And Ant is really, like, you know duran is really subdued um and ann is really like you know high energy so but it's been so much fun to just watch the two of them uh interact with each other and like every time ant talks to us he talks about having about how much fun he's having that's awesome and that is is such a cool thing yeah that's great to hear that's great to watch and i'm excited to see what he carries into next year at the nba because he got introduced to the world seemingly through the playoffs this past year he's going to be the next one out there and I think for Kevin Durant it's been very open right that Ant looks
Starting point is 01:32:31 up to Kevin Durant like it has throughout his entire thing so Kevin Durant knows there's a lot of respect public respect that has come from Ant so I assume that Kevin Durant is enjoying learning about Anthony Edwards as well but if you're Anthony like I got to do with Adam Vinatieri like let me just see what the hell this guy does, right? I've obviously looked up to this guy. Let's see what his day-to-day is so that I can learn from him.
Starting point is 01:32:51 That's not a bad thing to do. And the OG, Vinatieri, in my particular case, and Kevin Durant appreciate that. I think they appreciate that somebody isn't trying to like kill them more so than like, hey, I'm trying to learn.
Starting point is 01:33:02 He actually said that. I'm trying to learn from you. You're so right, because he actually said that. it's actually you're so right because he actually said that he goes you know it's kind of cool when guys who you respect just look so much up to you yeah and he actually made that exact comment the other day yeah and you want to like teach like i think they want to teach too like they don't teach everybody like there's not a like you gotta see you gotta earn that type of thing but like the appreciation respect level it's one where i think like i think vegetarian are still tight saw him obviously this weekend but it was very obvious and i'm trying to learn all the shit oh hey i'm trying to learn all your shit you're the greatest of all time i want to
Starting point is 01:33:32 learn all your shit and it's like he could have been an asshole about that or could have been cool about it and was very cool about it and we're best friends to this day which i assume will still happen between durant and ant as they move forward yeah there was that clip uh from the playoffs earlier this year when Minnesota was playing Phoenix, and Ant was kind of going at him and talking a bunch of shit. And you could see Durant just smiling, like, ear to ear, which obviously typically in games,
Starting point is 01:33:54 like if a guy's getting at him and talking shit and doing that to him, like he's not reacting that way. But he, you know, you could see it in real time. Ah, that's beautiful. He respects this dude. That's beautiful. Hey, way to go, boys. Cool. Yeah, I'd be excited to see how the contracts work. Those two on a team all season would, that's beautiful. He respects this dude. That's beautiful. Hey, way to go, boys. Cool.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Yeah, I'd be excited to see how the contracts work. Those two on a team all season would be fun to watch. That'd be dangerous. Yeah, that'd be very fun to watch. Steph and LeBron. Yeah, they've been having a good time. They've been talking about it all for a few years now. Oh, I love to play with this guy.
Starting point is 01:34:17 So, Steph, what, got a couple more years to go to state? Allegedly almost happened, right? Wasn't there a conversation about LeBron getting traded? Oh, never mind. That's not for now. Go ahead, AJ. Go ahead. Wendy, we were talking about people having fun and having fun there do you think steve kern this staff is having a good time coaching it seems like
Starting point is 01:34:30 it'd be a very stressful situation trying to get everybody in trying to manage everything how do you think he's kind of progressed throughout these whole the olympics of like hey how i sub people what i do in game and how do you think it kind of goes moving forward? Not really. It's really a thankless job because you are expected to win and win big. And he's had his tactics really questioned and like they've won every game and they've, they've really developed a nice chemistry and they've developed a nice game plan. And look,
Starting point is 01:35:00 you're when you're the head coach of team USA, you're one loss away from infamy. And he knows that he's, he's been the assistant coach of Team USA, you're one loss away from infamy. And he knows that. He's been the assistant coach on some teams. You know, he's been involved with high-level basketball for his whole life. And, you know, I do think he's avoided some of the talk from back home, but he's, of course, aware that people were all over him for who he played and didn't play.
Starting point is 01:35:22 And, you know, he kind of gave a little sermon the other day, and it really didn't get seen because at the Olympics, you know, the French have decided that there shall be no press conferences before the medal games. And so there's no place for him to sit on a dais. So he just kind of comes into the corner of a room, and we talk to him, and you're not allowed to play the audio, and you're not allowed to play the audio and you're not allowed to play the video. You're not even allowed to record it.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Not allowed to record the video. You can record the audio, but you can't play it. And he gave like this speech about how like this is not the NBA. This is not about having a soap opera. This is not about like who's upset with their playing time in March. This is about two weeks in the summer where nobody is on a team nobody's worried about their contract nobody's going to get traded and he's like i gotta put out the best team that i think can win each individual game and he's he
Starting point is 01:36:17 kept saying like stop thinking about this like the nba which he's basically saying stop thinking about like oh man i might have pissed off jason tatum and he might ask for a trade like he's like i gotta do what i gotta do never and he also said and he was kind of like you know saying pay attention what i'm saying critics he's like you don't put the five best scores out at the same time that's not how you coach basketball he's like with basketball you have to have defensive players out there with offensive players with guys who can guard centers centers, with guys who can guard guards. And he goes, that's the team we're putting out there. Now, it doesn't mean that he's going to be right. He can screw stuff up. Of course, he's human. But here's what I'm going to say. You got Steve Kerr coaching as
Starting point is 01:36:56 the head coach of this team. He's one of the best culture setters, vibe guys we've ever seen. He's a Hall of Fame head coach. Eric Spolstra is an assistant. Eric Spolstra is going to be a Hall of Fame head coach. He is one of the great tacticians and game planners that we have in the whole NBA. You have Ty Lue, who is also one of the best in-game coaches that we have in the NBA. Almost nobody is better tactically than Ty Lue. Ty Lue runs circles around guys all the time. Mark Few, who is a tremendous, one of the best college coaches going, who has a very good understanding
Starting point is 01:37:32 of the international game because they've recruited great international players over and over and over out of Gonzaga. There's Gonzaga guys throughout this tournament that he coached. And Jeff Van Gundy, who is, you know, the veteran of this group. And even Chip England, who's the shooting coach, who's recognized as one of who is you know the the veteran of this group and even chip england who's the shooting coach who's recognized as one of the best shooting coaches in the world chip if the u.s
Starting point is 01:37:51 gets beat because their coaches make a mistake we will have to take the l because we can't this is our best these are our best players these are our best coaches and if the players don't get it done we'll have lost with our best and if the coaches it done, we'll have lost with our best. And if the coaches screw it up, we'll have lost with our best. But what they are doing, they are doing for a reason. And frankly, it's been working. Hell yeah. Let's go. Hell yeah. We're excited for that. We can't wait for tomorrow. We appreciate all your coverage, pal. And if it ends tomorrow, you've
Starting point is 01:38:16 done great, but it won't. Nope. This thing's going to ride out for the next few days. Hey, we got the women. We got the men. Oh, yeah. And we got the women. The women are working on 58 in a row in the Olympics. I like that. Hey, FIBA. Hey, FIBA.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Sorry about it. Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Windhorst. Appreciate you, man. Yeah, Wendy. He's been living in France. I turned on TV. Mike Tirico was standing in that same spot he's been standing for, what, seems like a month now.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Yeah. I'm like, I wonder how they're feeling over there. Are getting any olympic fatigue yeah they're getting france fatigue yeah you know because there's a couple sports i'll turn on and i think if it was like four days ago five days ago i'd be much more jacked about now i'm like kind of winding down here ladies and gentlemen uh there is one sport that has come back though that is electrifying already speed walking yep okay race walking has made its return and there was too much showboating too much moxie oh no yep a lady gets the end of a 90 minute awkward walk yep race and 90 minutes this is 90 minutes 90 minutes she started showboating a little bit who and uh she got passed by a ukrainian i believe, who was speedwalking.
Starting point is 01:39:27 And she goes to fourth place. And guess what that means? Nothing. It was all for nothing. Forgotten about it. This is at the finals. Boom. Here it is.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Look at me. Look at me. And Ukraine's like, I don't think. Oh, no. She might be running. Nope. Foot has to be grounded. At least.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Oh, no. All the weird walking I've been doing for so long. All the chafing. All the blisters. 90 minutes I get here, I'm taking home a medal.
Starting point is 01:39:56 I'm bronze. I'm bronze. I'm bronze. My hips are popping out of place. Hyper extending my knees every step. But it was all worth it. Going back to spain with with a medal the ukraine nope nope got it think about that oh you can't get like how do you ever
Starting point is 01:40:12 get over that you don't i've been hyping up speed walking for how long now literally like three months there's forever several years first race that happens there's this electrifying finish. Speaking of electrifying. Oh, this is sicko. What is going on here? What the hell? What? It's good speed walking up here. That was a good speed walk. Are you an Olympic? Big Ten country is lots of corn.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Oh, yeah. Okay. This is puddles. Oh, yeah. Puds. Puds. Puds the duck. Puddle, puddle.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Puddles the duck Here we go Puddles Hat Something Okay I like that Let's figure it out guys Let's work together
Starting point is 01:40:51 Let's work together I like this Charade Sweet Alright That sicko that lied down He's got three fingers Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:41:00 And a thumb The duck The duck That's it Just the duck Okay The duck Alright Pretty good pen Oh yeah You called him Puddles Is Puddles dead And a thumb. The duck. The duck. That's it. Just the duck. Okay. The duck.
Starting point is 01:41:05 All right. Pretty good pen. Oh, yeah. You called him puddles? Is puddles dead? What happened to puddles? You took out puddles? Did you get Yusuf? Did you get Yusuf, the shooter?
Starting point is 01:41:15 Oh, yeah. Yusuf. Did you get Yusuf, the shooter, to handle it? So you're just the duck? Duck hunting. The duck. You don't like corn? We don't like corn?
Starting point is 01:41:24 You like corn? You like corn? Yeah, you better you don't like corn we don't like we don't like corn you like corn you like yeah you better better like corn oh yeah what are you doing i saw you've been causing some scenes in different uh universities i think people at indiana and bloomington would like you to never step foot on their campus again because you laid on their like traditional yeah you trying to stir shit right now is that what you're doing across the entire big 10 damn trying to un You trying to stir shit right now? Is that what you're doing across the entire Big Ten? Trying to unify. Trying to hug. Okay. Trying to unify.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Yeah, because Dan Lanning did say, we don't mind shaking some things up. Have you taken, is that kind of how you view it as well? How long are you on the road for? Do you know? Next week. Until next year. Are you watching next year? Or is that it?
Starting point is 01:42:00 They kicked you off campus? They don't want you home? Oh, no. They're saying, let's get the duck the hell out of town so they sent you on this road trip across the country is this all a big ruse they said get the duck the hell out of town they don't like you anymore over there oh they love the duck are you watching any of the uh sprinters obviously we know that that is uh that is opening ceremonies maybe yeah it's been watching everything yeah the ducks have been watching all
Starting point is 01:42:22 of it yeah the ducks been watching the entire o, right? You've been watching it? The Sprinters come from your town, right? What do they call it? The area. It's called something, right? Sprinter Nation. The Ducks have four, thumb counting, four fingers. Did you know that? It's like this. It's like Michael Jordan on his logo. Oh, real? Yes. Oh, yeah. Nice and webbed. Tracktown USA. That's what it is. I knew it was something. this it's like michael jordan on his logo oh real yes oh yeah nice and real webbed track town usa yeah i knew it i was there remember i was in your town i was in your town i was in your town connor you have any questions for uh the duck yeah uh are there any mascots that you're worried about coming into big ten country and beating your ass dude oh the buckeye you think it's a nut it's about to
Starting point is 01:43:01 bust on you pal though that's the thing yeah that you don't know about. The Spartan Michigan State. Ain't that right, AJ? That's what they say. That's what they say. The Boilermaker. Wolverines are mean cusses. Wolverines are mean cusses. They don't have a mascot.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Yeah, they got a bunch of people in khakis. It's Connor Stallions. Connor Stallions. Connor Stallions is their mascot. Yeah, who would be the The Boilermaker. They got a drum. You need to watch. I mean, there's one clear answer.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Sparty needs to get tested. Yeah, hell yeah. Okay, so Sparty's juiced up. A little juiced up. What are you going to do? Are you going to walk up to Sparty and shake his hand? Are you friendly with everybody or no? Yeah, you're fun.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Why are you pissing off all these schools then by doing their thing? They said that you did the leg lift on the biggest drum in Purdue. Yeah. Pissed on it. Pissed on it. Said you pissed on it. Maybe a little duck dumps. Why'd you do that?
Starting point is 01:43:56 I mean, that's a cute hug. It was a hug. On the rock. No, they weren't saying it was a hug. I was going to say. They're saying you're rubbing your. Yeah, that's what they're saying. You're a little...
Starting point is 01:44:06 Coach Sig Sig Nettie wants to blow your brains out. That's what you're... Big time. Oh, he's training right now, actually. Once again, we got the gold medal in skeet shooting in the United States of America. Yeah. Vinny Higgins.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Gold medal in skeet shooting. Yeah. We like skeet shooting, don't we? You're not supporting the team? You would much rather skeet shooting and ducking yeah yeah right so we're pro skeet you're very ski you love you love it he's got love skeet skeet skeet skeet motherfucker right here right right right come on come on You know this is like
Starting point is 01:44:45 The cows whenever they say Buy more chicken Yeah exactly Isn't that kind of like The way you are Yeah You're heralded as One of the greatest mascots
Starting point is 01:44:52 To ever exist Are you still humble Or are you You take it to heart Humble Humble Just casual Just casual
Starting point is 01:44:59 You fly in your own car Around town Or how are you getting around Driving Driving You can't drive You drive Yeah you drive with that Ducks can't drive. You drive.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yeah, do you drive with that on? Ducks can't drive. We need to watch that. Unlimited NIO. You don't have a driver? Yeah, what's that all about? I thought Phil Knight was paying for everything. Why are you... Are you on a bicycle wearing around town?
Starting point is 01:45:15 What's going on? Yeah, people are saying you... Oh, there's... Whoa! There's you rubbing your stuff all over the boiler. Oh, boy. Yeah, that was you giving it a hug, right? Not disrespectful. This is saying hello. Feedbacking. Holding on for dear life. Likes you giving it a hug, right? Not disrespectful.
Starting point is 01:45:25 This is saying hello. T-Bagging. Holding on for dear life. Likes to drive. I like to drive. Hell yeah. I like to fly. See?
Starting point is 01:45:32 People are saying you don't know how to do any push-ups anymore, right? Yeah. They said, oh, the duck isn't going to do push-ups anymore. Yep. That's what they said. Right? Isn't that kind of one of their stories? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:40 That was a puddles thing. Yeah. I don't know about this new duck. Leaving it in the Pac-12. That's what people are saying. Oh, boy. That's what theyuddles thing. Yeah. I don't know about this new duck. Yeah. It's all. That's what people are saying. Oh, boy. That's what they said. They're leaving that in the Pac-12.
Starting point is 01:45:49 They're saying no more. That's more. You want a Bert Kreischer, maybe? Who wants to challenge you? Who could do more? Con man. Come on, Con man. Hold. Look at him.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Hold the phone. Hold on. Hold on. Please hold. Doc, hold on. Doc. Go over here. Doc, hold on.
Starting point is 01:46:04 There is a... Trust that, you con man. Before you start doing your push-ups, what is this? What is going on? Who's that? Is that your duck handler there? I see a duck call. I see a duck call there around the...
Starting point is 01:46:15 Who is that? Is that Jack Hanna? Who? Duck. Duck, I didn't know. Duck. Quick. Who is that? He's got a shot collar on him or something? No, it's a duck call. That's a duck call that's a duck all right oh yeah
Starting point is 01:46:30 all right what up buddy that's good park ranger buddy sorry I mean I was not seeing a human like that a while a long time let alone in the Thunderdome yeah we got combat boots on kidding me we're ready to get in there if we have to go save uh park ranger buddy here i mean you look fantastic anyways tone spotted park ranger yes he did hold the phone uh so park ranger buddy since you can talk here they're saying uh the duck is a inept pus-upper. That's what people were saying. We were reading it on the internet. That was more of a models thing. Wow. Pretty good? Pretty good. Connor can do push-ups too. I mean, look,
Starting point is 01:47:12 I'm not sure you guys is puppet, alright? I know this guy comes in and does a song and dance everywhere he goes, but if we want to see push-ups... How many push-ups will give away money? How many medals do we have? How many? We need Bailey McComas to please come to the stage. If they are
Starting point is 01:47:27 able to combine, do 80 push-ups. Easy. Yeah. Come on, easy. I could do that by myself. Can you do 50 push-ups right now? You can do 50 push-ups right now? Of course. If you do 50 push-ups, we'll give $500 to 30 people.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Wow. There we go. He's writing some messages to talk shit about me not doing push-ups. Yeah, I see. We're conversations are passing. Song and dance with this guy. Don't let your tattoo get in the way. Okay. Why would it get in the way?
Starting point is 01:47:54 You stupid duck. It would help. You fucking asshole. It's true. All right. He's not going to do it. Come on now. There's no way he's not going to do it.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Let him sit on your back, Ron, man. Let him sit on your back. If you do 50 push-ups, we'll give 30 people $500. Wow. Who repost this video. And obviously, the duck from Oregon is here in Indianapolis, Indiana, because it is making its way across Big Ten country and saying hello to everybody and giving them hugs.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Obviously, Oregon, new to the Big Ten, also potentially favored to win the national championship. Are they going Oregon new to the Big Ten. Also, potentially favored to win the National Championship. Are they going to come into the Big Ten let Paul Reynolds rub its thing all over everybody and then also win the Big Ten and the National Championship? Possibly. We'll see. If you can bust out 50, we'll go ahead and do it.
Starting point is 01:48:38 How long is this going to take? Pretty quick or no? Yeah, we need pretty quick. We got a hard out. With the foop on this thing, they're quick push-ups. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Those aren't push-ups, brother. It's a bit of a Bert Risher situation. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Monster hamster. Nine, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49. Hey! Hey, way to go, Duck! High five, Duck! High four, Duck! High four, yeah, hell yeah, Duck! All right, all you do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody, and shout out to Duck.
Starting point is 01:49:24 And he potentially will be one of the 30 winners of $500. Have an incredible night. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Right on cue there. Hey, Duck, way to go. Now, what we did notice there early is it's not really a push-up.
Starting point is 01:49:37 It's more like a beak-up. Yep. That's a good gimmick. That's not your fault. Hey, you woke up that way. You woke up like this. Hey, enjoy the Big Ten. I think you're going to get a lot of hospitable responses from everywhere.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Oh, yeah. Now, as an act of war, he just knocked off Coach Lisa Bluter intentionally, I think. With a tail? Yeah. He's going to beat your ass, pal. You got one coming to you. He's a tall son of a bitch. He is.
Starting point is 01:50:02 As an act of war. We don't know. As an act of war. A duck. Could be anybody, man. Well, you guys thought it was his beak from the. He is. It was an act of war. We don't know. It was an act of war. Duck. Well, you guys thought it was his beak from the push-ups. It wasn't. From this angle. Good Lord, Ducky.
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Starting point is 01:51:07 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Very winded. Yep. Great work, Duck. I would like to say welcome to the big time. Yeah. You know, initially I was going to say I was an act of war, but you got some pizzazz. You do. You do. I like what I just saw. Can you shoot a basketball or no? Yeah. All right, Duck.
Starting point is 01:51:37 It's a long shot. It is. Come on, Duck. Oh, yeah. Not shooting for me. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Please, please.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Where are you going? Let's go to Dunk. Yeah, go shoot a layup. I mean, at least a three. Here we go. Drain it. The duck from Oregon attempting an NBA three. Only has four fingers. Off the dribble?
Starting point is 01:51:57 Okay. Pretty good little jump. Nice follow through. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. That would have been the one.
Starting point is 01:52:13 That's the whole song. Toes on the line a little bit, too. Toes on the line. They watched toe on the line. Mm-hmm. I guess that's a... Webbed something? He was shooting from the FIBA.
Starting point is 01:52:23 It was a FIBA 3. International. Oh, FIBA ball. FIBA. It was a FIBA 3. International. Oh, FIBA ball. FIBA ball might do better. Slippy. Good looking jumper, though. Hey, next shot's your best shot. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Yeah, head up. Nobody will remember. Quick pop. There it is. Good shot. There it is. Oh, my God. they look good for me the duck is officially welcoming the Big Ten now ladies and gentlemen the duck welcome home duck duck really good work duck
Starting point is 01:53:08 yup put it in duck drain it got it football season he holds it up He holds it up. Holds it up on the way up. Guy's got pizzazz. I like that. Just ran into a door. Just ran into a door back there.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Funny the park ranger as well. Is that part of it? I thought it was Bill originally because Bill wears shorts that short sometimes around here. With combat boots. Could have been. I did some research on the duck. The whole Puddles the duck situation.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Puddles was a live duck that the student body would carry around. Apparently the mascot is just the duck. Oh, so that was never the Puddles. They may have changed the story on their net. I feel like they have said Puddles on game day before. Yeah, but they probably had the live duck on there. Maybe. Yeah, because there's the Lee Corso.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. A couple times, I think. Oregon was the home of the infamous, for me at least, there's many moments over there. It's a beautiful place. It's pitch dark whenever that thing starts because you're early in the morning. So those West Coast schools, how early they have to show up to be there is insane. dark whenever that thing starts you know because you're early in the morning so those west coast schools how early they have to show up to be there is insane end of show we're doing guest
Starting point is 01:54:29 pics or whatever sabrina unescu is next to me doing the pics this drone flies in they're trying this new shot we're gonna have a drone an independent drone operators coming in at the end of the show we're gonna get this cool shot Just act like it's not there. Okay, sweet. So we all hear and see the drone coming. Okay, so it's you know, doing the whole thing. We're doing our pics. We're passing around. Concept was good. I think it was, in theory, a good idea.
Starting point is 01:54:56 The pilot, though, was trying to get too close. You know, like, hey, the cameras are good enough. You can get in the area and get the hell out. So they were like buzzing a tower on all of our heads. Me and Sabrina, more so, I think, than everybody else because we're kind get in the area and get the hell out so they're like buzzing a tower on all of our heads me and sabrina more so i think that everybody else is we're kind of in the middle so one time and then it leaves and then sabrina and i'm like did you see she's like yeah i saw it that thing comes back for a second go she snagged the thing out of the sky broke it in half and threw it on
Starting point is 01:55:20 the ground and i was like dope fucking dog yeah that was the coolest because the drone has in her hands oh yeah pretty important obviously she snags it breaks it and throws it i was like i love that she broke it did she know it was an espn situation but it wasn't technically an espn situation because it was an independent party that she could have thought it was like a you know he could have thought it was uh you know someone with ill intentions probably and if it was somebody at espPN, I think she would think to herself, they'll be okay with me doing this because we're all... Oh, Jesus. What?
Starting point is 01:55:52 Is that the... I remember her doing a drone shot. Yeah, I felt it. That fucking thing just cut my hair in this entire thing. That was awesome. Oregon's a beautiful place. Far. Way out there. Washington, too. Far. Way out there. So far. Washington, too.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Far. Beautiful place. Far. So far. What's that mountain in Washington, Seattle? Rainier. Rainier. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:56:14 That is a beautiful... It's like in the backdrop of a lot of different shit that they have. It is beautiful. So far. I'm pumped the duck is coming through to see everybody. Say, hey, we're in town. The Oregon team, I'm so intrigued by how their season goes. High, high favorites to go win it all.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Dylan Gabriel. We saw Dylan Gabriel in person. That dude can play. And who's he looking like right now? Who? Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. He literally looked exactly like Was that him?
Starting point is 01:56:47 Rayola No you're thinking Rayola You're thinking Nebraska quarterback Rayola Dylan Gabriel is the Oregon quarterback Was that Rayola? Sure Yeah Oh my god
Starting point is 01:56:55 I must have been on too many He looks and plays like him too He plays exactly like him Dude Moves like him And Patrick said this is Lil Cuz Yeah So I'm like this is like a Kevin Durant
Starting point is 01:57:03 Anthony Edwards type situation here potentially. So I was like all in on that. Same quarterback coach too. So Dylan Gabriel, then his dog? Yeah. Puppy. Okay. Oklahoma last year.
Starting point is 01:57:14 That's sad. Very. Dog passed away right before camp. Tough. Tough. That's another. Yeah. Who watches your dog during camp?
Starting point is 01:57:22 If you have a dog in college. A lot of these college kids have pets and stuff. It's a big responsibility, man. Puppies are basically having little babies. Little infants. Maybe they have an NIL deal with some dog company. Comes and takes care of them.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Potentially. I respect and approve. What? Uh-oh. This guy's got poopies, I think. I don't know. He's a peer. Yeah, he is. He's got poopies, I think. I don't know. He's a peer. Yeah, he is. He's a, hey, I got to pee really tight.
Starting point is 01:57:49 He's been eating Cracker Barrel every morning, though. That's a lot of... SummerSlam, he does the shit he eats. It's crazy. It's phenomenal. He's got to be so happy that that is what can happen. This guy's eating full stack of flapjack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Full stack. Full stack. Full pint. French toast. Give me all of them. You know how you get like an order of French toast somewhere, and it's like that's way too much. He's like, yeah, that's the serving size. He eats the whole fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:58:17 And we're doing all the extra syrup. Drowning it in syrup. Sausage links. And he's just. Donuts strapped. Been buying donuts every week for the past three months. Yeah links and he's just donuts strapped been buying donuts every week for the past three months yeah and he brings it into us says uh come on go ahead fat boys thanks d-butt yeah really appreciate that um before we get out of here we got to cover all the things that are happening around the end that is happening around the nfl
Starting point is 01:58:42 uh with aj hawk more specifically aj joint practices are happening around the NFL with A.J. Hawk. More specifically, A.J., joint practices are happening again. That means big-time fights are happening again between teams. The Giants and Lions were throwing bombs today. Hey, huge, huge scuffle to start this entire thing on the Internet. I don't know how long practice had been going. Penne Sewell was throwing big bombs there. He's getting punched in the face. Guys are actually throwing lefts and rights. There was a jab in there as well. Somebody showcasing that
Starting point is 01:59:11 Russell Wilson isn't the only one that boxes in the offseason. I mean, there was real scrapping going along. Then in the second fight that we got a video from, there was a defensive lineman on top of an offensive lineman. And it's like, okay, here is an immediate fight because an offensive lineman is getting disrespected. A defensive lineman is in there. They want to fight to begin with because they're already fighting kind of every single play. Daniel Jones comes in and gives a big-time shove to the D lineman before a coach comes and grabs and gets him out of here.
Starting point is 01:59:37 AJ, I respond to the same exact way you did. I almost bought a Daniel Jones jersey immediately after seeing this particular video. What are your thoughts on joint practices? And what are your thoughts now on Daniel Jones if he's able to and willing to do that well I'm pumped that Daniel Jones is in there and it's true like yeah you do have helmets on and we understand that but like those punches especially open-handed punches still hurt very much you get donged right in the head so for Daniel Jones to jump in there it's awesome I think his teammates see it as well but you even mentioned it earlier in the show. With these joint practices, I am surprised that every single rep that you do 11-on-11 does not end in a fight,
Starting point is 02:00:09 especially when it starts, because once it starts, I thought, when my old buddy got hit in the flat here early on in that practice, they've had a couple fights after that. I assumed they might separate and not practice together the rest of the day, but these guys seem like they're still going at it right here, like bam, right there. Helmet off. And then when everyone comes together, yeah, I thought this is like, okay, this is fun, but we're not going to practice anymore together today.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Yeah, and coaches have certainly done that. We're going to separate fields. All right, we'll go back to playing in our field. You play on your field, I guess, because the boys can't take it. Sometimes coaches get pissed and make people run because, oh, you have so much extra energy. Okay, let's run some sprints. We'll get the energy out of you one way or the other. But we talked about in the first hour,
Starting point is 02:00:49 roster spots on the line for two teams now, not just one. Two GMs there, two scouting departments there, two coaching staffs there, everything you have. If you're kind of a bubble guy, it's like, hey, you have very big opportunity here during these joint practices. Their agents are telling them that. People are telling them that. And then if you hit one of the big stars, now all of a sudden the rest of the roster is involved too. You got Penny's soul-throwing fucking big-time rights in there. You got Daniel Jones' $40 million quarterback getting in there. So now it's not just the bubble people.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Now it's like, hey, are we going to get punked out by the New York Giants or what's happening here in the Lions department? And then Giants are saying the same exact thing. The Lions are built to be tough, though, and gritty. Giants, not normally the case. I like what I'm seeing out of the Giants, AJ. I like it. Dable, yeah, Dable has to love that as well.
Starting point is 02:01:35 And, of course, you've got to say, hey, we've got to be smart, protect our teammates, whatever. But, yeah, the worst thing that can happen is that you come in and you practice with a team, and they just completely physically dominate you. They push you after the snap, all this stuff, and you don't respond. So, I mean, you have to respond. And we're seeing both these teams pretty much do the right thing,
Starting point is 02:01:52 respond the right way. Now, I understand it looks crazy and whatever, but it's true. If you're a coach on either team, the worst thing that can happen is that you just get punked completely by the other squad and you don't have anybody stand up for your guys. Our boys got no fight. How do you know that? They got their asses in the fight like that actually like right there amon ross st brown threw somebody and then that was right in front of all the dbs on their own sideline
Starting point is 02:02:13 so he just threw and then all of a sudden wait a second and then yep dbs wide receiver linebacker everybody out there okay excuse me that ain't happen. That's not how this is going to go. And one thing leads to another. That's how the fights always go. It's like in baseball, it happens when they clear the benches or whatever, and then the people come running in from the back. That's always a fun time. Okay, I've got to run 100 yards to go get into this one. This is great news.
Starting point is 02:02:43 In football, there's only a few of those. Normally, it's just like room-based or like area-based. But you see a quarterback involved. There's people coming from. You're going to have coaches and GMs start running and trying to separate people. If they see their quarterback, yeah. You're teaching it. You're teaching it.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Watch out. That's their moment. A lot of them are former players, former college players. They it. You're teaching it. Watch out. That's their moment. A lot of them are former players, former college players. They are obviously all jacked up, so that's their moment. Did you see what happened at Packers family night? Hell, yeah. Trace Ramirez, who is how old?
Starting point is 02:03:20 He's a sixth grader, so probably like 11 or 12. 11 or 12 years old, goes to family night, has a helmet on representing his team. Okay, he catches one punt out of the jugs machine. Rich Passaccia, one of the greatest special teams coordinators in the NFL, goes, hey, this one needs to hit you right in the middle of the chest there. Right in the middle of the chest. Catches two, uses the knee. Who cares? There's no way this kid whose arms aren't even big enough to hold an NFL ball,
Starting point is 02:03:41 which is a huge ball coming down from a jugs machine. That appeared to be 50 yards there, too. That's not like some gimme. Whole place goes crazy for good reason. Trace Ramirez is an absolute dope. AJ, this is a beautiful thing. Packers training camp, from the bicycles to the entire town shutting down to this kid having this moment. Feels like you guys really do it right over there.
Starting point is 02:04:04 It feels like there's, were they doing this type of thing whenever you're playing for them? And who is that kid if we were to guess? I mean, he's obviously a stud playing in the probably fifth and sixth grade league over there around Green Bay. But, yeah, if you saw the clip, there was a video when they said, oh, Packers family night scrimmage, and they panned the whole stadium, and it's almost sold out.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Like, it's unbelievable what they can do there, and that's how it always was when I was there as well. Like, it's a huge thing to have this family night scrimmage. The fact that this kid did that, like, I was thinking of, I have a kid, 11-year-old, going into sixth grade. Like, he could, can you imagine the confidence, how much juice he would get if you got, not only got called out, you got to do it and wear a Packers helmet.
Starting point is 02:04:41 I caught three balls, and the whole, the current squad came down and celebrated with me. So, yeah, this is no better place than Green Bay for this to happen. Did they end practice on that? They should have. That feels like a potential. That might be at the beginning, though, because that's when special team shit normally happens. But if that's how practice ended, imagine that kid.
Starting point is 02:04:58 And then he's obviously in the middle. Packers on three. What? Like the whole. Unforgettable. Unforgettable. Carrying him off like Rudy. Well, did that?
Starting point is 02:05:07 Yeah, yeah, it happened. Did it? Yeah, what are you talking about? You've seen the movie. He made a tackle too, right? It's the last guy to ever get carried off. Yeah, well, yeah, sack. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:16 To end the game. And he wasn't offside. No, no, no, of course not. I don't know what's real and what isn't anymore. Nobody does. Yeah, a couple people. Good for Trace. We're proud of you, pal.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Coolest kid in school. It's not easy to do. There's professional returners that can't do that. Now, granted, they're not going to be professional for long. But they are on a team at the current time. That was a beautiful thing to watch. And shout out to the Packers continuing to absolutely crush it. Speaking of crushing it, Brock
Starting point is 02:05:45 Purdy ate all the metal and iron that he possibly could this offseason. There are pictures from last year to this year, and he is just properly jocked, understanding that he wanted to get the upper body, maybe the show muscles a little bit better. He's probably asking himself, there's a lot of people that don't want to give me any credit. You think it's because
Starting point is 02:06:01 my arms aren't just fucking yoked? So then he decided to get yoked. I don't know what it is. I love everything about it. This is the evolution of Brock Purdy. He's going to continue to build the body and the brain of a professional athlete and of an NFL quarterback. The guy's already accomplished so much, so it's hard to remember that he is so young,
Starting point is 02:06:17 still learning, still evolving. AJ, he is absolutely jocked, pal. He is. Have you ever seen the clip where George Kittle's talking about him and how this dude's quads are absolutely jacked? He talks about McCaffrey and Purdy and how jacked their lower body was. Now, people don't really understand
Starting point is 02:06:34 how jacked Purdy was, and here we go. I mean, I guess it's like Michael Jordan. Didn't he get beat up a little bit early on in the playoffs and he said, alright, I'm going to go to the weight room and put on 20 pounds of muscle, then I'm going to go and just win championships pretty much every year. Yeah. And with Tua, there's like kind of a bunch of things happening with body weight. He knows exactly how it's going to feel now. He knows what he's going to have to deal with. You know,
Starting point is 02:06:55 do I have to be a little bit bigger? I don't know if he wants to break a couple more tackles. Yeah. I don't know if he wants the fall on the ground if he gets hit to be a little bit lighter because you got a little bit more muscle around you. I don't know if he wants to get stronger throwing the ball and if that's going to happen and he becomes an even better downfield passer i think had the longest yards per catch uh in the entire nfl even though everybody says he just checks down and he's a system quarterback it's like i think we're going to continue to see brock party change uh as a human as well as obviously a football player. He'll probably get more confident talking.
Starting point is 02:07:26 We'll hear more. We'll learn more about him as a person as he goes on. But you're talking about the beginning of a superstar roller coaster. And this is Kennywood, baby. This is the beginning of going all the way up to out there that nobody else can get to. You know what I mean, D-Buck? Or maybe it's not having Trent Williams out there protecting his blind side.
Starting point is 02:07:40 Maybe I should get a little more yoked up top. But Brock, we mentioned it. Him being so young, we do forget. And then you look at the all the important qb metrics and he's at the top basically since he's become a starter and to your to your point as well him throwing the ball down the field those attempts obviously you got to get brandon iuk back in the fold you got to get trent williams back in the fold but i loved everything that i've seen from brock purdy since his first snap in nfl And teammates see him and go, oh, this guy's been working his ass off all season.
Starting point is 02:08:07 That's literally the first reaction. It's like, have you seen how big Brock got this offseason? The dude's been working his ass off. It's very evident. I showed up at a training camp one time a little fat. A little chunky. Everybody noticed. Sure. And the first thought is, oh, this guy didn't do anything all offseason. It's like,
Starting point is 02:08:24 well, actually, my metabolism slowed down. I didn't do anything all off season It's like well actually my metabolism Slowed down I didn't notice Getting older here I was still doing all the talking I was getting hammered all the time Did you feel going in though That you were in normal shape like you should Or were you a little worried
Starting point is 02:08:38 I looked at the mirror too yeah I saw it I saw what everybody else was seeing And Amira's show there was a little bit here And there was a little bit on the sides. And in football pads, those two things are very noticeable. All white, too? Yeah, and the course, yeah. Yeah, so I noticed.
Starting point is 02:08:54 How long did it take you? Would it take you a couple weeks to get to where you felt good? In the training camp, I didn't look as much of a fatso, but, you know, it was not great. But people, that's like kind of the immediate judgment for me was like, oh, this guy didn't do shit all offseason. He was just fucking, look how sloppy he is. It was like I did, but I did the same exact amount,
Starting point is 02:09:09 just the same exact amount of everything else too. And it turns out my body's a little different now. We're all learning. We are learning. We are moving forward. You see Brock like that, you think to yourself, this guy fucking crushed it this offseason. And you start thinking to yourself, he's like not –
Starting point is 02:09:26 yeah, he's the most underpaid quarterback in the history of the NFL. By far. In like the history of the NFL. With where contracts are right now, he's the most underpaid quarterback in the history of the NFL. So for everything he's already done, in his mind he's probably like, there's so much to go get right now. Locked in, focused, same offense for another year with Shanahan.
Starting point is 02:09:44 I mean, it's like Brock Purdy's primed to have another incredible year, AJ. Yeah, he is. What impresses me about Brock is no matter how big and jacked he gets, whatever, the dude seems to be playing at a different speed from day one. You hear Lombardi talk about how he goes through his progressions. I go here
Starting point is 02:10:00 one to two, three, this is what I'm looking for, whatever the defense gives me. He knows what he's doing. He's not just out thereinging it I think there's there's definitely quarterbacks out there that are thinking hey my first option is not open I have a hard time kind of getting through the rest of my progression I think that's the best thing Brock has done since he got in the league which is pretty much the most difficult thing to do as an NFL quarterback yeah in between the years he was there since literally his first snap in the NFL now he didn't start immediately upon day one but whenever the season was like what what, 66% through, I'd say.
Starting point is 02:10:28 I don't remember the exact week. He gets dropped in there. And him and George Kittle were immediate. That was like George Kittle's first real action of the year. And him being able to dissect these defenses that were in prime, they were mid-season form, these defenses, whenever he gets dropped in there. And it's his first game, and he's already picking up disguises
Starting point is 02:10:45 and seeing where people are at. And they're like, well, it's a system. It's a system. It's like everybody's playing in a system. That is, can you read the system? Can you dissect the system? Do you know where you're supposed to go with the ball in the system? And last but not least, can you put it there?
Starting point is 02:10:58 And it's like accuracy insane, arm insane, brain absurd, his humility's through the roof, and now he's fucking jacked so i don't i don't know what we're gonna see but i'm pumped to watch this iteration of brock party let's get away from football for a second saw something over the weekend dirt bike soccer whoa people are wondering how soccer becomes the sport in the united states of america i think tst helps whenever there's target goal time at the end of a game where it has to end on a score and it's a little TSD helps whenever there's target goal time at the end of a game where it has to end on a score and it's a little bit more electricity
Starting point is 02:11:27 and there's less people, seemingly more action. This is how you do it. Dirt bike soccer. The red team here rolling around on what seems to be a 750cc. Cuts past somebody and... GOAL! What a cut. L1.
Starting point is 02:11:46 Cross. Good pass. Step over. Toe poke. Side panel. Goal. Red dirt bike team in dirt bike soccer. I don't know where this is.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Certainly another country. I don't know why there isn't more fans there or fanfare about the sport, but I love it, AJ. Yeah, I do too. I mean, I question the goalie's decision-making right there. I mean, it should have been somewhat of an easy save, I think, but either way, great
Starting point is 02:12:11 skills and technique by these people. Easy save! The ball's on his right. Here we go. All right. Cut. You have two defenders. Fishtail. Great, great way to handle that thing. That guy's flying in. Toe poke.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Where's he going? Is the goalie on his feet? Yeah, he is. Yeah, he's on his feet, too. He's not on the motorbike. That's part of it. Yeah, he thinks he's going to get hit with a dirt bike. Yeah, that is part of it.
Starting point is 02:12:35 I get that part, I guess, yeah. Yeah, he thinks at any given moment, are we worried about the ball? Kind of. What are you more worried about? Ten dirt bikes. This guy's going 60 miles an hour on a dirt bike. The guy's tail fishing. Drifting around. I didn't think about that, I guess.
Starting point is 02:12:49 I didn't think about that for the goalies. Goalies like Shannon. Whoa! Sergey! I told you not to do that. I mean, you're going to lay on the line for the team or not. Look how tight quarters are. I guess this is called moto ball is what it's being called. Food court,
Starting point is 02:13:06 toilets. Look at these. Oh my goodness. This is sweet. This is filthy. I wonder how many broken good saves. That was a good save. That was a good save. Can the goalie go coast to coast without the motorcycle? You're watching
Starting point is 02:13:21 Dust, Sweat, and Gears. YouTube right here of motorball. Happy the goalie in net has a helmet on. How much would it suck? Oh! Top ten! Filthy. You sign up for this league and you're thinking,
Starting point is 02:13:37 I'm going to be on a dirt bike scoring goals. And they're like, actually, we're going to stick your ass in goals. You just get to stand out there with the helmet on. And not also do you get to just stand there and try to stop dirt bikes and balls. What a save. Great save. This is the greatest goalie in the history of Moto Bowl. You're going to be in a barn huffing fumes
Starting point is 02:13:54 the entire time. There's ten of them doing that. Oh, a little joust. Oh, he almost eats shit. Saves himself. Locks up the rock. Ref says, wow, that ref's fucked. This ref is not prepared for the moment, I don't think. They need to think. Green card.
Starting point is 02:14:10 What's that mean? That means you get to go faster. You get to go fast. Look at that. Donut. Oh. Oh. That's got to be the messy of Moto Ball.
Starting point is 02:14:22 He just feeds him some exhaust after that. Hey, suck it, goalie. And rubber. From rubber and exhaust. That goalie sucked. That was a poor effort. That goalie's bad. This is what we need to do in America, though. This is what soccer needs to be.
Starting point is 02:14:36 So many broken legs. So many. Oh, my God. That's messy. Make the save. L3 there and L1 are the future of the company uh of the sport and uh let's go to another sport that would be much more electrifying if it was played differently uh big story in baseball don't know if you know this the um the chicago white socks
Starting point is 02:14:59 actually hung a banner in a stadium uh last night at a game or this weekend of a game, and it was for 20. And you wonder, is that for the 20th time that we've hit a home run or the 20th strikeout? Instead of putting Ks up there, we put the 20, maybe 20 Hall of Famers from the Chicago White Sox organization is going in. Maybe 20 lives were saved at some point in the Chicago White Sox game. No, no.
Starting point is 02:15:22 That 20 right there is for they have officially hit a 20-game losing streak. 20 straight games, stacking Ls. Pittsburgh Pirates are in there a couple times, which I'm very thankful for. 20 games, they suck. Are the White Sox the worst team? Do the White Sox actually
Starting point is 02:15:39 have the title of the White Sox? Are they the worst team in baseball? Yeah, actually, and Hembo actually sent us quite a few stats to kind of give us the full picture of how bad this is. The White Sox are 10-47 on the road this year. That is the worst record
Starting point is 02:15:55 since the 1945 Oakland Athletics. They have a.237 win percentage. That's actually the worst in baseball since the 1916 Athletics. So, you know, about 100 plus years there. They're 37 win percentage. That's actually the worst in baseball since the 1916 athletics. So, you know, about 100 plus years there. They're on pace for 123 losses, which would be the most since 1899. I mean, that's fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:16:16 1899? 1899, yes. The Cleveland Spiders lost 122 games. They've been outscored by 2.2 runs per game, which doesn't sound like a whole lot, but in baseball, that's like getting beat by three touchdowns every single week. Yeah, baseball has never any scoring. Well, good teams there are. Teams like the White Sox
Starting point is 02:16:34 certainly not. Oh, the White Sox. Yeah, absolutely. They're only averaging 3.1 runs per game, which is the fewest by any team in the last 50 years. They've been the betting favorite in only seven of their 114 games this year. Wow. Jeez Louise.
Starting point is 02:16:50 And they're the only team in the MLB with a 10-game losing streak this year. They actually had a 14-game losing streak earlier in the year. They are currently on a 20-game losing streak. And if you got rid of both of their losing streaks, they would still be 27 and 53
Starting point is 02:17:06 with the lowest win percentage in the major so yeah they're like just the nature of baseball the worst team in the majors typically like well you'll lose like 60 to or you'll win 60 to 65 games just because there are i mean anything can happen like paul skeens yesterday you can have the best guy in in the league pitching and these guys are still professionals. You hit a couple homers, you win a couple games. It's kind of crazy when you look at the records pregame. The White Sox are 27-87 right now.
Starting point is 02:17:37 It's just like they sold all of their good players at the deadline pretty much with the exception of one guy. But even night in, night out, you guys talk about like that year when you almost went completely defeated yeah like that's terrible i mean can you like these guys go to the the ballpark every single night and it's basically just like a foregone conclusion like hey we're gonna lose uh this sucks this season is incredibly long like we're going to lose every single night none of you guys want to be here pretty much everyone's going to be gone at the end of the year the manager like i suck at my job i don't want to be here i'm going to get fired like it's just crazy that in a market too like i
Starting point is 02:18:14 mean the white socks aren't too far removed from they they won a world series like i guess it was around like 10 years ago now but like they're not a historically terrible team. So the fact that we're in August right now and this team's already lost 87 games and is on pace to lose the most games since 1899, it's remarkable. And if you're a baseball fan and you see the White Sox on the schedule coming up, praise the Lord because you've got a couple wins on the plate. Yeah, and the White Sox organization is known for the scandal that happened back in the day called the Black Sox. Yeah, the Black Sox, correct. Chewless Joe. So now the White Sox, you said they won a World Series.
Starting point is 02:18:57 That's cool. That's not what I first thought of whenever you're talking about the White Sox. First thing I thought of was like, oh, the Black Sox. For sure. I guess 2005 is when they won the World Series, so 19 years ago or whatever. Yeah, I think 19 years ago. But I think negative stuff. And then I also remember,
Starting point is 02:19:12 and Zito reminded me there, they were thinking about moving to Nashville, I guess, before the season even started. It's like, what's going on with the White Sox? How did we get here? And you did say that with the Black Sox. I was thinking, I said this to you before the show, I was like, at this point, the MLB, I think you might need to look a little bit closer
Starting point is 02:19:29 and be like, all right, let's make sure that none of these sons of bitches are betting against the White Sox because these guys are 27 and 87. It'd be very easy to just, you don't even have to know any inside information. It's just like, hey, guess what? We fucking suck.
Starting point is 02:19:41 This other team's better than us. Let's bet against us tonight. And we have probably a better than 50% chance of winning a bet. So they might want to take a closer peek at that and make sure they don't have any guys betting on their own team. Yeah, because you start thinking, are these guys
Starting point is 02:19:55 trying to suck? Are these guys trying to lose? We just saw in basketball a couple months ago, a guy just throwing basketballs over the backboard because he didn't want to hit enough threes. Exactly. Checking himself out. And he said, I'm sick, actually.
Starting point is 02:20:10 My eye hurts. I got a cough and a headache and a backache. I need to not play this game. Over under 1.6 points or something like that. Under hits. Biggest bet of the night for DraftKings. Wait a minute. Let's fucking look at this.
Starting point is 02:20:23 What's going on here? That's in 2024. Isn't that crazy, AJ? Yeah, I mean, come on. We can figure it out pretty quickly. It was the biggest bet of the night. Remember? Isn't that why it happened? Because DraftKings was like,
Starting point is 02:20:37 biggest loss of the night was this one. Right here. On who? Doing what? That's what we're saying. Yeah, exactly. We've talked about this before with the All-Star game. There are ways you could game it. You're playing a good team. You kind of pitch around the first two guys.
Starting point is 02:20:52 You get up to the three-hitter, the four-hitter. It's like, you know what? I'm just going to throw this 91 miles an hour right down the middle. This guy's going to fucking hit a 500-foot homer. And then guess what? We're down 3-0. Our offense sucks. They're not going to score three runs.
Starting point is 02:21:06 We averaged 2.2 runs a game. Like, there's ways you can't. That can't happen. It can't happen. It can't happen. We need that all to leave sport. We can't have it because sports gambling is going to ultimately be good for sports fans and sports as a whole.
Starting point is 02:21:18 But we can't have all the, you know, because we're in this transition era, people getting used to it. It's always happened. Like, this is always something that takes place. Hopefully, that's not happening. We are just in a hypothetical right here. Correct. But what reality is, and the reality is, they suck.
Starting point is 02:21:34 So bad. Like, I had to double take when I saw that. I saw the banner fall on my algo, and I was like, man, I'm excited. I was excited to tell a good story. Like the athletics. I'm like, all right, 20-something happened here. I'm excited for this. Track back who actually posted the video.
Starting point is 02:21:49 Got to track that bang, pow, pow, rip post video, which I appreciate people do that as opposed to just stealing shit, posting it out of context like a fucking scumbag company. It will come around for you. Just know that. Know that.
Starting point is 02:22:01 I thought a lot about it. But like those videos that go, you got to get all the way back. Let me get all the way back to it. Let me read it. It's like, no, yeah. This team has not even come close to winning the game for a long time. And then I Google it. I'm like, no way that's real. Because I don't want to come out here. We don't want to talk about
Starting point is 02:22:15 baseball. I don't know shit about baseball. But I thought the point of baseball is like, nothing happens but you get there. You start scrolling through their games. It's just L, L, L, L, L. Had to do one load more. Yep. L.
Starting point is 02:22:30 And then I would have had to do one more load more to get to the 20th loss. And then a lot of those, like, they're getting blasted. It's not like they're losing, like, I mean, yeah, sure, there's like a couple three-to-twos and stuff like that, but in a lot of them, like, they're getting beat 15-to-3. Baseball sucks, but nobody sucks as bad at baseball as the White Sox do. So congrats to them. How did they sneak this in?
Starting point is 02:22:51 How did they sneak that giant 20 into this thing? Obviously, it's not the team putting that up. It's the fans. I think it was a key stream. Yeah, probably two fans. Big key stream. I don't think they care. It's like, yeah, we do fucking see it.
Starting point is 02:23:02 They probably don't. At the front. What is this thing you got down your pants? It's a 20 care. It's like, yeah, we do fucking sit. They probably don't. At the front. What is this thing you got down your pants? It's a 20-banner. It's hilarious. Actually, you want to sit in center field? You're on the third base side right now. We'll put you in front row, too.
Starting point is 02:23:14 You're actually in sixth row, too. We'll get you up front so it's nice and easy. You need tape, too. Probably some tape, right, if we're going to put this whole thing up? Let's do that. Baseball's still happening. Oh, yeah. When does it matter?
Starting point is 02:23:23 It matters now? Now is the time, yeah, where it's starting to pick up a little bit. What's that, AJ? October. Isn't that when it matters? Well, obviously. But, yeah, end of the month is really when the playoff picture will kind of start coming in. How are the Buccos?
Starting point is 02:23:36 Buccos are in it? Three out of the wild card. Yep. All right, sweet. That's coming from Hammer. Todd. Todd. Let's get one more Olympic update done, Diggs.
Starting point is 02:23:44 What do we need to know about, pal? Some things that we didn't get to from this weekend. Just another absolute goat now for us in the Olympics is Krauser, who's won three straight gold medals in the shot put. Just an absolute behemoth of a man and just has dominated the last 12 years of the Olympics. Big time cowboy.
Starting point is 02:24:02 We got a chance to chat with him either before or after his first win or his second Olympic. This is his third straight Olympic gold medal. Shout out to the United States creating this beast. He's a cowboy. This guy is an absolute cowboy. He's a dog.
Starting point is 02:24:15 And with how big, athletic, and explosive he is, I immediately said, how come you're not playing left tackle? And I don't want to say he took it as disrespectful, but he said, my whole family's just shot putters. That's what we do. He was like, oh, I'm so sorry. I did not put enough respect on shot putting. And now he's three-time gold medalist.
Starting point is 02:24:31 It's like, yeah, that is 100% on me, just for immediately assuming you would want to be a left tackle if you're that big and that strong. It's like he's committed his entire being to this. And now he's coaching, I believe, a Jamaican discus thrower. So not only in the Olympics, also coaching in the Olympics, having a massive impact and imprint on the entire sport. Congrats to him.
Starting point is 02:24:51 Hey, we're lucky to have you as United States American. Oh, yeah. And Joe Kovacs. Yeah, we got silver in that one, too. Yeah, he got silver. Three straight for both of them. Hell, yeah, boys. Kovacs just fell.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Yeah, sorry, man. Yeah. Story that we need to be talking about in the olympics did is uh kristen faulkner who won uh gold in the street cycle for women's first time in 40 years okay she she was going the classic route of going to harvard and after you go to harvard you go to new york city and you you start working for a venture capitalist firm that's what that's just what you do and then you start doing take a venture capitalist firm. That's just what you do. And then you start going to some cycling classes in the morning before work. Oh, and then you start entering some local races,
Starting point is 02:25:31 and you start doing well, and you're like, hey, I like cycling. I'm going to move to California. I'm going to be a full-time cyclist. And then it turns out a month before the Olympics, you get joined to the cycling team. Then you go to the Olympics, and you win a fucking gold medal. How long did all that happen? Seven years.
Starting point is 02:25:46 From the time she started cycling, doing beginner classes in New York City, those 5M beginner classes, to the time she won the Olympic gold medal. Seven years. Yeah, congrats to her. And it was an electrifying pass, too. I think it was 3.65 kilometers left in the race. She made an
Starting point is 02:26:03 outside whoop-de-woo slingshot move almost on the two in front and she just started pulling away and then they just quit yeah the other people just decided like yeah we're not going to chase her so they can make their own little wing tunnel she started pulling away and her dad is watching the big screen as it's showing her pull away and they're not even going to chase her they're just going to let her go in and you see him like stand up and he's like holy shit and. And then I think he thought, oh, I'm standing in front of people. So he sits back down and then there's like three kilometers left
Starting point is 02:26:30 where he's just got to kind of hold it together about how pumped he was. Congrats to her. What a story. The amount of work she's had to put in in seven years to get to that point. Absurd. And she'll be able to drop right back into venture capitalism. You know? Investing in companies and the stock market and stuff.
Starting point is 02:26:46 It's a good time to start one. Buy low. Buy low. Buy the dip. Buy the dip. Are we in the dip or are we still on the down? Oh, we're still on the down. Yeah. We are not. Are you down, down, down, down, down?
Starting point is 02:27:01 Down, down, down, down, down. Down, down, down, down, down. Because we need to know when it's all the way down down down down because I believe that's when so if somebody smarter than us can figure that out we'd be very grateful just put out like a tweet say like do it now buy it now yeah and tell me now that you're going to do that so I can turn on notifications
Starting point is 02:27:21 I don't do it for anybody I would like to see that whenever that one comes because I think it's going to be a little window. From my 2009 year when I first get money for the first time in my life and have friends that have money for the first time in my entire life and all they say is, I lost my ass last year. What happened?
Starting point is 02:27:37 Everything. I lost it all. Where was it? Stock market crash. Real estate crash. I lost all my fucking money. I go, well, I'm never doing that. I'll tell you that'll tell you that i'm never gonna let that happen worked way too hard to just have everything disappear without even seeing it if it's gonna disappear i'd like to see it enjoy it live it experience it but we're gonna do 100 shots right now it's at least at least we're experiencing a couple thousand bucks on overpriced liquor as opposed to just seeing the number on a screen just evaporate that's how i'm gonna look but then the person i was talking to at the time seemingly
Starting point is 02:28:09 super genius when it came to finances just lost everything but obviously we got it all figured out now he said uh now it's time though to get back in there a lot of opportunity whenever devastation comes it's only for certain people and obviously i'm not a part and did not grow up in that part of that world but let's remember that the sun is brightest after the darkest dawn. That's right. Well said. It does feel like there's a potential dark night coming, right? Potentially. That's what the internet's saying. I refuse to believe that. Okay. I refuse to believe that. But there is allegedly that on the horizon. Let's remember that on the actual horizon, the sun's going to come up. Let's keep living.
Starting point is 02:28:45 Tom, we appreciate you, pal. And Pat, you know who else needs to know that? It's our sweet, sweet prince, Connick Ja. Who, you know, he made a hell of a run. He made the farthest run we ever had in ping pong in the Olympics. But he succumbed to his opponents and was knocked out of the tournament. He didn't die. He just was knocked out of the tournament he didn't die he just was knocked
Starting point is 02:29:05 out of the tournament thank god john did not die but he jeng dong killed him he he did his prep he did his proud hey connor jaw thank you for representing united states furthest any singles competitor has reached for our male table tennis and there's a lot of table tennis happening around the united states of america so the fact that john's the furthest ever we certainly appreciate in the next olympics he's not going to have any of the fuckery of the miss phone number on the drug testing thing so then he misses tests he gets suspended and he's distracted he's not focused in l.a home soil his home state that's right just taking his paddle and he's beating the entire world's ass right boom we appreciate you joe it's an honor to learn about you.
Starting point is 02:29:46 Thank you Joe! Great work Tongue Diggs, you're the man. Thanks Tongue. Before we get out of here, we would be remiss if we didn't bring up the fact that yesterday was somebody's birthday. Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, Evan Fox has completed another trip around the sun. Thank you boys, appreciate you guys, love you guys. Happy birthday Foxy, we're incredibly proud of you, we. Appreciate you guys. Love you guys. Happy birthday, Foxy.
Starting point is 02:30:05 We're incredibly proud of you. We can't wait to celebrate you this whole week. This whole week. Can't wait to celebrate you. Happy birthday to you. Oh, no. All the candles just blew out. Happy birthday
Starting point is 02:30:21 to you. Happy birthday. Cut to the. Happy birthday. Cut to the back screen playing. So he's with Foxy. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Foxy. We appreciate you, buddy. Thank you, boys.
Starting point is 02:30:38 Love you guys. Love you, Foxy. Way to go. Ice cream cake. Let's keep that away from the tech. I do believe it is always an ice cream cake that gets delivered here for everybody's birthday. But a very special one. Happy birthday, Foxy.
Starting point is 02:30:48 Proud of you, buddy. Thank you, guys. Can't wait to celebrate you at the end of the week. That's the important one. No. Birthday is important too, Foxy. Oh, it's very important. Without today, Friday doesn't happen.
Starting point is 02:30:59 Yeah, but this one only happens once. My birthday happens every year. Well, funny you... You never know. Not getting into it. You never know. Not because of a lack of success for your case, but there are times where people have like 10 different weddings.
Starting point is 02:31:13 There's only one wedding. What do you mean? That has been out there before. Nonetheless, we love you, brother. Happy birthday. AJ, great work today. Boys in the back, fantastic job. Tone live from Hammer.
Starting point is 02:31:23 Dot, dot. Great work. And we'll be back tomorrow big one i believe aj will be in this sheet oh wow yeah because i'll be in connecticut i'll be connecting your big conference right there's a college football conference where they lay out all the new rules and all the new this and i knew that so the amount of information i'm about to come back on wednesday with is going to be fast here we go it's going to be fast here we go i can't wait to be this is cool this is cool this is cool did did you guys know yeah yeah that one that one is going to be a uh quite a thing but very lucky to attend it can't wait to do that and we're lucky as how to do this for a living you all are the greatest people on earth thank
Starting point is 02:32:01 you for allowing us to have this as a job. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team.

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