The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1179 - Dolphins Head Coach Mike McDaniel, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Dana White, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the breaking news that Vikings rookie Quarterback JJ McCarthy will have to undergo knee surgery for a torn meniscus, although the timeline is still up in the air. They also chat about Haason Reddick continuing his holdout and why this is just a nightmare situation for both sides, as well as everything else happening around the NFL. Pat and the boys are also joined by four incredible guests including Head Football Coach of the Miami Dolphins, Mike McDaniel, ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter, 12 year NFL veteran at QB and ESPN NFL Analyst Dan Orlovsky, and lastly, the President of the UFC, Dana White. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Football Tuesday. August 13, 2024, this program begins now. Football! It is amazing and we got a lot of football today. We have coach Mike McDaniel who will be airing the conversation we had with him just a few hours ago in about 15 minutes or so. It's a doozy. That guy's a beauty, and you're going to want to hear how he feels about the Miami Dolphins this year and what happened in the past that they could potentially learn from going forward. It is, honestly, the convo is electrifying.

Yeah. And McDaniel is one of one, and I can't wait for you all to see it. And then in the second hour, we'll have Dan Orlovsky on because he's doing Dan Orlovsky stuff, and he's ranking quarterbacks from all these bullshit things, and it is awesome. The conversation, obviously, from it all is electrifying, and Dan Orlovsky will stop by.

What's a big takeaway, Dan, from the first weekend of preseason as well? Can't wait to hear his take. Obviously, A.J. Hawk will be here, and all the boys are here. The Toxic Table at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor. Con man, how you doing, pal? Fantastic. Fox, you just run the clip, please. I mean, we have Drake May in a bucket to Jalen Polk down the sideline.

Effortless throw and a hands catch, baby. I feel great. Patriots are in a good spot. Still might only win a couple games, but the young guys are doing so, so well. That's joint practice. That's not against some New England Patriot player. No, no, no. This is a guy that's probably, oh, I got Jalen Polk in my pocket.

Oh, I can do this. No, you can't. Jalen Polk, I mean, I'm not going to say he looks like Devontae Adams, but he looks like Devontae Adams. And who's Drake look like? Who's Drake May look like? I mean, Drake May, he looks like a little bit of Josh Allen, a little bit of Patrick Mahomes, a little bit of Aaron Rodgers. I mean, maybe he does look a little bit like Tom Brady in his early years.

Oh, Joe Montana. Joe Montana. I mean, look, that's just what he looks like. Dan Marino with that release. Marino a little bit. You're right. I wasn't even going to go there, but you did. So, yeah, I can say I feel as good as I've ever felt about the Patriots

in the last three years. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Obviously, you have your Patriots hoodie on. You were drafted to the New England Patriots in the last three years. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Obviously, you have your Patriots hoodie on. You were drafted to the New England Patriots. You golfed with Drake May, his drunk uncle, his whole family. Should Connor be as excited as he is off of that one rep, one-on-ones right there? Yeah, I mean, why not?

This is what this time of year is for. And obviously, Drake May, I pegged him as the guy in this draft. I love Caleb. I love Jaden. But I love Drake. Spent some time with him. Mentioned his family as well. Great family.

Great group around him. Great family, except for that drunk uncle. I love Jaden. But I love Drake. Spend some time with him. Mention his family as well. Great family. Great group around him. Great family except for that drunk uncle. I like the uncle too. You like the uncle? You need balance. I didn't know anybody like that uncle. I thought he just kind of hung around and made everybody feel bad if they didn't invite him to play. Imagine him on the golf course five hours walking.

He's so bad. I could. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Word on the street is he was at the Sox game the other day too. Drunk uncle? Yeah, drunk uncle. Wow. Drunk Uncle? Yeah, Drunk Uncle. Wow. Drunk Uncle is okay.

I thought I was a jerk if I was a day late. Suspended a couple games for that particular thing. But I do think this is what training camp is all about. Like, legitimately, this is what training camp is all about, seeing what can happen, what can't happen, and the fact that those are two rookies now connecting like that. can drake may do it on every single play that is the difference between good and great consistency is literally what makes you either uh great college player non-nfl player uh great college player good nfl player or great great great is can you do it every

single play every single day every single meeting and it sounds like everything that drake may has in between years the work ethic obviously the way he views life and everything is set up to be a franchise guy on the field can he make all the plays that they ask him to make that throw right there is actually one of the ones that they say drake maybe yeah maybe can't take the layup maybe not able to do it third and 12 what's he do sets his feet perfect ball let's get the hell out of here maybe the future is incredibly bright in New England. Maybe that is the case. Let's stay in the AFC East.

There's a lot of chitter-chatter going on in the New York Jets organization. That's right. There's a book out about the quarterback, unauthorized biography, that Aaron Rodgers has just spoke about for the first time. And he said – Yeah, he basically said that a lot of research went into it, and there's some stories that he wasn't even privy to, about his grandpa and stuff, so he was learning stuff.

So he didn't ask for the biography to be written, but it's certainly, he appreciates how much time and effort went into writing the book. Okay, so that's all cooking. That's all kind of going on. Robert Sala knows, hey, we either win, or we're all getting fired here. Joe Douglas, you know, has he built up a roster that's good?

How about the decisions, you know, that he has made over this all? Hassan Redick wants to be traded. Has gone to a meeting, a walkthrough, a practice, a nothing with the New York Jets. After requesting a trade from the Philadelphia Eagles, gets traded to the New York Jets after requesting a trade from the Philadelphia Eagles. Gets traded to the New York Jets. Has a press conference where he lays out everything. And a lot of people saw this clip floating around the internet yesterday after he officially requested a trade from the New York Jets. Once again, a team that he has done nothing with.

Robert Sala before the mandatory minicamp said, we know who's on Reddick's car going on. He's got good work ethic. We know exactly where he is. We expect him to be here whenever this was the unexcused absences by Hasan Reddick and Aaron Rodgers. Aaron's getting fined. Hasan Reddick obviously getting fined. But we know he's a good team.

We know he's going to be here. Well, he's not. And this is what he said the first day he became a New York Jet at his podium in his press conference. And a lot of people were saying he lied. I literally kind of covered all of his bases here. This is one of the greatest answers I've ever heard in a press conference from a player for this entire situation to end up happening. How do you look at it? Is it a, you're on the last year of your contract.

You said, like you said, it's a business. Is this a place you hope is a long-term home? Are you looking at this like a one-year situation? Or have you believed there's a chance you guys could get an extension done? You know, all options are open. Right now, currently just worried about

being here, meeting everybody that's in the building today. Contractual stuff, I'm leaving that up to my agent and Joe to figure out. You know, but whatever happens, I'm going to be happy for her. I'm going to give my all no matter what.

That's just who I am as a person. So no matter how it goes, how many years, I'm going to be here for however long I'm here for, and I'm going to give the team, the fans, everything that I have. And he has. That's true. On his Instagram as a new york jet he was in japan yep and he gave the jets fans everything they could have asked for as a tour as if you were in japan alongside of him and that press conference i think he gave everything that he had to get he gave himself all the outs imaginable in that answer never lied once and

i think he understood whenever you get traded to a team, whenever you're seeking a new contract and that contract doesn't get settled before the trade, it doesn't mean that it's going to get settled after the trade either. And obviously this is a big talking point because what's going on with IUK right now, but this is a nightmare situation for Joe Douglas and the New York Jets. They thought they were adding another all pro, another superstar to the defense. Instead, it seemingly has just been another distraction for a New York Jets organization that has seemingly had enough of those to go around for, I don't know, the last 50 years or so. It's a wild scene over there with Hassan.

Yeah, I don't get it at all. Obviously, for Hassan, I'm sure he wants to be in camp. He wants to be with his new team. You know, he obviously asked out of being in Philly. Bryce Huff, he moved on to Philly. So you would have thought this deal would have almost been done before he even got over there. That's usually how these things happen with a vet that you know wants to get paid. That's the point in his career where it's probably his last big payday

coming off the edge. Been extremely productive, been healthy. So it's surprising that Joe Douglas and the Jets haven't figured it out. I know Joe Douglas put out a pretty straight-to-the-point statement yesterday after the trade request came out. But this is wild. You want to get this figured out as soon as possible if you're a New York Jets. We have informed Hassan that we will not trade him, actually.

We've never even seen what you're like in our building. We don't even think you ate our food here the day that you were here for the press conference. Kind of easy come, easy go. We have informed Hassan we will not trade him, that he's expected to be here with his teammates, that he's never met most of them, and that he will continue to be fined per the CBA if he does not report. Since the trade discussions back in March, we have been clear, direct, and consistent with our position.

Our focus will remain on the guys we have here as we prepare for the regular season. That's straight from the office of Joe Douglas. The Jets are the best. Yep. The Jets are the absolute best. This is such a Jets thing to happen, and I think their fans are probably saying that

and echoing that sentiment loud and clear. Well, and, like, getting a player, sure, excuse me, and that's one thing, but with Joe Douglas, it's like, hey, buddy, like, you gave up picks for this guy. You didn't just sign him to a one-year deal. You picked him to be in the Super Bowl. I know. That is why I'm kind of choked up is because I did kind of expect the Jets

to maybe have this happen later on in the year, but for this to happen before anything even starts. This is the earliest. Four plays was the Aaron situation. Incredibly unlucky. Hassan Ruddick, the next All-Pro you bring in. Not even a walkthrough. None.

They don't have a trade for. Dude, at least give them a couple dollars for this season and then just let them play on a one-year deal. How do you even get out of something like this? Because you can't trade them again. The fines are getting big, too. They are getting large preseason games account for actual game checks, even though you're only making $1,800. They're taking whatever the regular season is. So that tally's running up quickly. And it's like, I assume Hassan has seen in the past where teams are able to make up for that in the new contract. It's like, okay, we'll add on $750,000. We'll add on $1.25 million worth of the fines onto the contract, onto the back end to kind of make up for it because CBA has defined that we have to fine you this particular amount.

But this whole situation, now who is going to want to trade for him? This is a team that's going to have to pay him before they trade for him and give up assets before even understanding. And I saw Lombardi talk about this, and obviously Lombardi's been around the NFL for so damn long. Now he's part of the Washington training camp alongside Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll. Look out.

At this stage, at this stage of it all, who's going to want to pick up the Hassan Reddick situation? Obviously, he's a phenomenal football player. But this is obviously going to take a lot to get him in the building. If Joe Douglas wasn't able to get it done, is there anybody else that's going to want to sign up to get it done at this

particular stage who knows you could be who you can afford to be and asan reddick is an absolute dog but he's never done anything for the jets for them to experience that he is the guy so the fact that he hasn't even been in a meeting has they haven't even heard him talk haven't seen him on a practice field oh this guy goes 100 every every single day. He's going to lift the energy of our room. They have no idea if that's true. They have no clue what it is. What an interesting quagmire that they are

seemingly going to be empickled with for at least the foreseeable future. It just makes no sense because they said that their position has been clear and concise from the start, but they absolutely knew he wanted a new deal when he got traded. So I wonder if they were just like, we're just not going to pay him. He's probably going to forget before the start of the season.

We'll be fine. He'll go out there and put like – both sides are at an impasse. I don't know how this – like the Jets have basically said, hey, we're not going to give you a new deal or whatever you want. And he's been pretty consistent with, okay, well then I won't be there. So there's only one way this gets done and it doesn't look like they're any closer to it getting done

than they were when they first traded for it. Just tried to FaceTime Greeny just to get his immediate reaction. And I'm sure he has already talked about everything. I think he is currently golfing with his kid. But this isn't supposed to happen in 2024. No way. Especially with the relationships that agents have with GMs and the amount of people that agents rep. currently golfing with his kid but like this isn't supposed to happen in 2024 no way especially with the relationships that agents have with gms and the amount of people that agents rep so like we

do deals with a lot of people so our relationship has to be pretty good pretty sound or at least we understand each other so for the fact that a deal a trade to go through and be approved before one of the stipulations pretty much for the person to show up gets agreed to just seems like malpractice like you know it does seem like kind of kind of malpractice this entire thing i don't know by who like agent jets like was there a belief i don't this is a massive fuck up though in 2024 when you would assume that this has already been all these things have been figured out great player new, new contract, wanting to be traded. Team wants him.

You know he wants a new contract. We've seen this song and dance plenty of times in the history of the NFL. We all kind of see how this is going to go. So I don't know how we even get here. And then if you're Joe Douglas and the Jets, like you let Bryce Huff, who was your most productive pass rusher last year, young guy as well, you let him leave the building to make a trade for a sign. So you see it.

You know, you talked about Salah saying, hey, pretty much we're all on the hot seat here. So you bring in a proven pro who will at least give you this production for at least a year or two so to not have anything that doesn't seem close to even a deal being done with both sides. It's wild to see at this point in the game. Hey, it was a good press conference, though. We ran a clip. Great for sure. And cool walk down Japan. But for you two,

if you're in that building and you've been on the Jets and this situation's going on and it's someone that you don't even know, what is the locker room? What do they say? I don't think anybody cares. The locker room does not care. We don't even know this guy. I assume some people know him as a friend, but he's never been in here, is how I would... I think that would kind of be the view.

When he shows up, like let's say it gets – boy, it'll be a big – Oh, yeah. Whoa! It's good. Like legitimately welcome back in, but they've already built their team without this guy. So it's no real – in my perspective. You are kind of – I mean, I would be kind of side-eye in the front office,

though, especially if you're a vet and you're on that defense because this isn't like – this is your pass rusher. You expect him to probably be your premier pass rusher. So if you're a corner or safety, you're sauce, you're one of these guys like, hey, you gave up some assets to get this guy in the building. And whether you know him personally or not, you know he's a proven pro and he's done it year in and year out. So you definitely want him in that building.

We saw even one of the best pass rushers in the game, Nick Bosa. He kind of drug this out with the Niners and he kind of didn't get going until a few weeks into the season. So you want that guy in the building. You want him fresh. You want him getting football reps. Especially if you're on that defensive side of the ball. Yeah, I think side eyeing the front office is probably a move that that locker room has

done. A couple times. Yeah, more than once. I think that is a natural reaction in the locker room by the way a decision gets made and it's just like this is the highest level and then you obviously go to the media and it's like very excited very thankful you know that's part of being the team but boy everybody's professionals over there you got a lot of adults over there too who've done i mean especially if you start thinking about aaron over there you're talking about a mount rushmore guy you know you're talking about a guy that's been there, done that.

Now, I'm not saying it's all been fine and dandy with his previous plays, but whenever you see things happen, you've got to think to yourself, like, what the, how is this happening in the NFL? How do we, especially Super Bowl bus year. Like, we're supposed to be a premier program right now, and it's like we're dealing with some Bush League type shit. I assume they'll get it figured out. They get sorted yeah way to go Jets Jets football or a baby that's Jets football all right before we get any further it

would be rude of us to make you wait for a conversation we got to experience earlier you're about to experience now we caught up with a legend this morning ladies and gentlemen joining us now is the head coach for the Miami Dolphins. Now, we all know that the Miami Dolphins haven't won a playoff game in a long time but in two years, this guy is taking on the back-to-back playoff appearances. Is this the year that they break through? We believe so because his hair looks more sweet than it has

ever looked. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach McDaniel. How are you coach? I'm doing great I think this would be a good time to Let you guys know that it's not my actual hair It's a wig Oh okay I've noticed Because every time you've stepped up to the press conference This particular training camp

We got a little bit more pizzazz A little bit more sauce up there We're growing it You know what I mean We're growing it out I like it Are we going full? Are we going Are we going to take this wig all the way maybe by the end of the year playoff air you know there's no telling you you know um as well as anybody like when when you're a girl dad

oh yeah like not all the decisions that you have in life are up to you. So, you know, when she says, Daddy, I like your hair, I keep that consistent. She'll eventually say, Daddy, cut your hair, and I'll probably do it then. Yeah, it's a smart play. We got a new boss. I understand that. And thank you for knowing that I have a daughter. That's very cool of you to be able to keep up. Let's talk about your life, family, and being a head coach in the NFL. Last time we spoke to you, you were an undefeated head coach remember yeah hey yeah it was awesome you remember that everybody undefeated now your guys won oh go ahead yeah you looked little further I feel like we had the conversation we're discussing in a

different building yeah I feel like you, I almost feel like this was like pre, you know, it's like any sport that is pre-television contract. This is back in your humble days. No, hey, our last office was pretty sick, too. You know what I mean? It was pretty sweet, too. This is the Thunderdome, though, Coach. We need to make you a visit whenever you're in town if you ever stop by the Thunderdome.

Took a church, changed it into a studio. Too much space, but always a great time. Welcome to the Thunderdome, Coach. Welcome to the Thunderdome. That's phenomenal. Thank you. That's phenomenal to unpack. Life has changed since then, though, for sure.

I have won games, not all all that i've coached in um i think the miami dolphins organization uh is uh is is in a cool place where there's a there's been some established relevance but but I think that is old hat and old news for a lot of the players. So we're hungry for more in 2024. Yeah, but you haven't, Bars, you haven't changed at all. It seems like you haven't changed at all. Do you feel that way? Because I remember whenever we first talked to you, and I think it's probably how everybody responded to you, is like, oh, I don't think we've ever seen a head coach with this type of personality. Obviously, incredibly smart. We all

know your Ivy League background and big brain and what you do with the offense. But the way, yeah, you got a big ass, under that long ass hair, you got a big ass brain. We know that. But you, the way you deliver, the way you talk, we all were excited to see how you would relate to the locker room and how it would translate to the players. It feels like you have not changed and had a massive success. Have you felt that, or have you had to adjust the way you do things from day one? Obviously a little bit of evolution, or have you kind of come in and been ready for the gig since day one?

Well, I think it's very important, especially when you're really pushing everyone around you, whether it's players or the coaching staff, you're pushing them to improve and to continually get better. I think it's in the nature of the way I see the business and my role. I think there's definitely been things that you know i i learn along the way having you know it being my first rep is at it um but in terms of like you know the the person uh you know i think uh take or leave it um i've never i've never fancied myself as like a chameleon to adapt my personality. I think so much of what I ask every person that works with me to invest and trust in me, you know, I think it's in the bylaws of of uh my job to give them you know myself and and be vulnerable in those times

are necessary um you know just be you know that that honest version of yourself because that's to me what what is owed to all the people that you're asking to trust players are going to say i haven't really changed to change yeah well i understand you probably have changed and tightened some things up but you maintaining who you are is a big part of your players buying in you know because the locker room can tell if somebody's being fake or if they're being real and you've seemingly been very real from the jump about it all including the most important position tua and that started like literally i think the day that you were signed as the head coach whenever you're flying on the plane, you call Tua. We had a conversation about,

hey, let's take advantage of everything Tua has that is great. You know, instead of knocking him down for the things that he doesn't have, which seemingly was the way Tua's career was going before you got there, the accuracy was the conversation. Then the arm strength, then the jujitsu. But whenever we start mixing all those things that he has grayed out, he has turned into one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. Seeing his development, seeing his growth, seeing him get paid, how proud of you are of him, and what do you see and expect for him from this season?

You know, I'm absolutely over the moon for him writing history as he has. So that, you know, that, that bold proclamation that that that history has done service to it looks it's debilitatingly undercutting if, you know, he doesn't do everything that he needs to do to really evolve as a man and as a player. And then as well as, you know, guys signing up to be on the front end of the vision and his teammates decided before it was popular to truly believe in him as well. So there's a whole, to watch that mature is absolutely, you know,

probably second only to bringing this organization to the Super Bowl. You know, I think because that's what it's about. You're trying to positively impact people. And, you know, for the way I look at it is I would I would hope that, you know, every day I try to earn the fact to earn the really the role, because, you know, I think if there's somebody else better equipped, they should have the job. I think players deserve your absolute best, and it's amazing what in healthy relationships

from teammate to teammate to teammate to coach, how things can really evolve and people can grow. And, you know, I think that's the cool thing about Tua is he's always evolving. And I really can relate to someone assuming they know exactly what you are only to, you know, attempt to show them a different version. Well, now he's the thinner, more jacked version. That's right.

And you almost said the word, almost said the word culture. You seemingly stayed away from, I heard Cole almost come out there whenever you're talking about the, do you try to stay away from that? Or is that, that was basically what you were just describing right there, it felt like. what you were just describing right there it felt like yeah i think you know it's culture is a unique blend of uh you know having a philosophy and principles but then really it comes down to the people that you have like i i can say till i'm blue in the face that i want a culture of X, Y, or Z. But to really create a culture, you need driven people that are signing up to buy into what that is.

And I think there's a lot of power in focusing. A really easy way to explain it is i see everything is an opportunity cost so if you're spending time thinking about one thing you are not spending time doing something else and when you're living in a world where you're trying to figure out what someone wants you to be like i think that's's destructive to the ultimate goal of that everyone's trying to achieve. So I think to be your best self, you have to be yourself. I kind of leave it at that and then try to set the tonality for people to follow in terms of how you approach football. That doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter what I say or what I do if I don't have the right people not only to echo the message from the coaching staff, but then the players to choose to buy in and maybe put forth an extra effort and go the extra yard more than they're familiar with. Well, I think whenever you have success, it's easier for everybody to buy in, right? Because they see like, hey, if we buy in, we're going to have success. Last year, there was a time where there was no team in the NFL that was hotter than Miami Dolphins. I mean, you guys hung 70 on the Denver Broncos,

and they were talking about people saying the Walmart family is going to sell the Broncos because of what the Miami Dolphins just did. Yeah, it was your offense that became that part of the conversation in the buy-in, in the success, in the belief, in the electricity that was this Miami Dolphins team. Whenever you see everybody humming the way they were there for a while last season, now obviously negative 20-degree weather is going to affect everybody, and that has been thrown in your face,

and I assume you will have a rebuttal to that at some sort uh in this particular answer but whenever you see what your team could be last year how promising is that do you harp on that to the team like hey if we get back to playing like this if we play like this we could beat everybody like whenever you have that type of run last year is that something that's beneficial to the entire team, I assume, and to the entire organization? And how does that become every single day now? No, so I think to start out when I'm talking to the team and just when I think about it on a whole, you have to separate the fact that the 2024 Dolphins, you know, I think, what, 40% of the roster was, or 40% of last year's roster is still here in 2024. Oh.

So understanding that, and that's pretty much around the league, you're right around 50% to 40% of retention in in this day um in age of the of the league so understanding that there are absolutely tremendous lessons that you can take that you know 40 percent of your roster got to experience live speed from that season. And I think that's very valuable when you're applying it to this season, because just like you can't carry, you know, the residuals of you win a Super Bowl last year. You can't carry that point differential margin into this year. Everything starts anew with a new team.

margin into this year everything starts anew with a new team um but i think absolutely you got you had live speed examples of how um magnetic or just there's just the the the fan base and the organization and how um it's like lighting a match with the excitement of a fan base that's been through some stuff and organizations that that's been through some stuff so you can feel that and you can feel how much doing half or three quarters or all the way to week 17 to like it it's all awesome but there's still the the longevity of the journey and where you have to be in your finest moments it just it really it would be impossible not to take those lessons and and you know I play them all the time. I learned a ton. I know a lot of the players did. And the bottom line is you, it is a very important lesson for every NFL player to learn that hype exists and is temporary. Bleeding, you know, over embellishment or like, you know, people, you know, the narratives and people loving you and saying you're going to win the Super Bowl or whatever.

How bleeding that is and how much, how little it matters when you have the experience of the up and down of the season i think it's i think it's very beneficial for this team to have so many people that had that lesson to to really understand why it's all important you uh you yeah you can say what you want about negative whatever um why were we playing in that game? Okay, so then how do we learn from that for this season and how can we truly make sure that we cross our T's and dot our I's from a preparation standpoint? How do we just literally leave it out on the football field knowing that everything matters, knowing that a loss that you have in October or November that you may just chalk up to, okay, that's another game.

Well, that could be the difference in you having your helmet crack in sub-zero weather and sweating with a tank top after the game because you're at home. You know, like the immensity of how important everything is in our process, I think guys trusted me when I said how it all matters, but you really – there's nothing more valuable than learning it firsthand. And we hope to carry that, those learning lessons this season. I love that because if you don't win your last game, boy, what a failed year.

Yep. You know, that's just kind of, you talked about the overhype and over embellishment of being great fleeting. It's like, yeah, if you lose your last game, it's like, what? That team was fake. That team,, that is the immediately story that goes. Case in point, I think if there would be a game where we would, on the final drive, have the potential to kick a field goal for 73 points, I don't think I would have to explain my rationale about why you don't think i would have to uh explain my rationale about why why you don't chase points

in week three for no reason um to a lot a lot a lot of the players i think they would now it makes a little more sense in hindsight um and i think that um they'd probably be getting pissed at me if i tried to send a field goal kicker out in a scenario like that moving forward because we have bigger fish to fry. Let's talk about the bigger fish to fry there. And you just chit-chatted about it a little bit. You talked about we need to take care of the little things more throughout the year so that we have that as a home game. Do you think anybody would have been able to win that game? negative i mean like all odds were stacked to get you in that game you knew it too right with the way your offense is coming from miami it's 85 degrees

down there and then you go get dropped in in the media obviously we're talking all week let's see how these florida boys do let's see how these florida boys doing this entire thing is there any other takeaways from that game because my big takeaway was after you guys lost in a locker room, we saw some of your speech. Emotional group. Tight group. Seemed like a tight-knit group. What everybody was expecting from your team to blow up and implode

did not happen at all. Everybody remained bought in. Is that your takeaway from that game, or what is the big takeaway you think from the way the season ended? is the big takeaway you think from the way the season ended? I think, I think the takeaway is, um, how consistent you have to be over a long period of time to be in a situation where you feel like, um, uh, like, I think everyone understands, uh, on our team that in football, the ball is oblong and it's an odd shape. Anything can happen.

But to win that game, it was an incredibly tough task that a lot of things you have to hit on a lot of cylinders that are tough to hit on in football. It's definitely not impossible, but you don't want like you. is if you don't like your season to be left up to the outcome of a game in that climate, don't have the game be in that climate. That's awesome. I like that that's a motivating factor. I think that's kind of where guys are at.

All right. Because nobody feels sorry for you. We made our own bed. It wasn't that cold in Miami. because nobody feels sorry for you. We made our own bed. You know? It wasn't that cold in Miami. Ever. Period. I like that your team, nobody did this.

You know? I think that was a cool thing. With how many personalities and obviously how big and overhyped you talked about the team was, whenever you guys lost, there was no, like, it was a lot of this, actually. Like, Tyreek said, man, I got cooked. Like, there was a lot of this actually. Tyreek said, man, I got

cooked. There was a lot of ownership which, going back to the word culture, you probably have to feel good about. Now, you got some new pieces. You talked about 40% player return. How about on the coach's side? D-Butt, massive Dolphins fan, has a question for you. Yeah, lifelong Dolphin, and I know I'm an asshole, but I wanted you to score that 73 points.

But, hey, shout out to you. Appreciate you, man. And we know you on the offensive side of the ball, a bunch of weapons. Tua's there. He's got his money. Obviously, Tyreek Waddle and the rest of the crew out there. On the defensive side, I think on the third defensive coordinator now, love Anthony Weaver, love the move, especially being a D-line savant like he is. What was it about Anthony Weaver, and how have the guys in the locker room

been kind of taken to him? I know it's a lot of young guys in their chop, kind of in the mix. You got Javon in the back end, but how have they been taken to Coach Weaver so far? So it's been a really cool process. I think what was unique about the whole process in general is you know I think you know I think everybody knows you don't want to do that you don't want to change or have change you'd love to have some consistency in coaching in coaches because it's a relationship business so when I approached it this time I separated football from person and I first started with just knowing you know at this

point in time I have my fundamental beliefs that I'm not willing to waver on and knowing the connectivity that I was going to necessitate I think I went through and had a group of people that I wanted to talk to because of who they were as people. And then going through that process, as I interviewed every candidate, I took in mind, that's when I attacked the schematic portion of it. And when I tell you that the synergy between both the human being, the leader, and, you know, what I was looking for schematically, it couldn't have been a more perfect fit. you know, I was looking for schematically,

it couldn't have been a more perfect fit. And you know what? Every time that they're, the great news is every time Anthony Weaver succeeds, I feel like I'm really right. No, he doesn't agree. That's what it's about though. You're in chart, like you want, I think the players have

um done an outstanding job of taking the time to open their mind and and learn a very complex style of defense that that they're owning now as their own um and keeping their mind open to who anthony Weaver was. And then Anthony Weaver has done a phenomenal job really curating those relationships, you know, getting guys on the same page, having a taking pride in, in what they do collectively as a group in a selfless manner. And then just being consistent each and every day with his thirst for reaching these guys

and maxing these guys out. You know, it's an exciting time because I see guys from the coaching staff and the players pushing each other uh to to new lengths um new challenges in the media room new challenges on the field and i think that serves us all for the better how has training camp been training camp's been good you feel like the the buzz the energy everything buy-in from day one has been great for the team it's been uh my favorite training camp by um the thing that i that i measure that i keep uh that that i hold is most valuable um from a coach's coach's perspective and that's our tape that what we're putting on the the way we are connected and developing our technique and fundamentals,

the intensity with which everyone is attacking practice, the competitiveness, and that fine line of being able to be super competitive but not crossing the line so that we don't protect the team. I think I've really enjoyed this training camp from a football standpoint because I think it's high-level competition. And there's, you know, three phases of football that are throwing out their unique complexities that's making it a challenge for everybody. Hell yeah.

Hey, third year in this thing. Hey, come on now. Let's go. Come on. You had so much success. You had so much success so quickly. And by success, I mean just like being yourself, being different than any head coach we've ever seen,

team buying in, hard knocks in season, getting a chance to buy in, have success, bang, bang, bang. Only third year down there. You've done a good job down there. Let's go, coach. Yeah, and that's Gumpy back there who obviously has a question for you in a matter of moments. Gumpy's excited.

Gumpy has been living and dying with you guys. That Jalen Phillips news was a big deal for him yesterday. Thank you for doing that. We'll get to Gump in a second. Let's talk about you. For Gump? Thank you, Coach. That's big.

Good coach. There was a couple times where Gump was doing one of these. Thank you, Coach Wow That's big Good guy Good guy Good coach There was a couple times Thank you, Coach There was a couple times Where Gump was doing one of these Oh, yeah I just want to let you know that

He was Yeah, yeah, yeah He was Yeah, I just want to let you know Top turnbuckle? Yeah Building But, yeah, also

Okay Yeah, top turnbuckle That's it That's what I said I'm an optimist Yeah, you are Yeah, he was going to Me too, Coach

He was going to do a swan He is not the optimist That's what they say about me all the time Yeah,. I'm an optimist. Yeah, you are. Me too, Coach. He's going to swan. He is not the optimist. That's what they say about me all the time. Yeah, he is not the optimist. But, boy, he is behind you 100% at all times. Well, if this is what Coach thinks is the right move, gump. I guess. Let's talk about you, though.

He's not the only one, I assume. Ty has a question for you, though, about you. Yeah, yeah. He's not the only one, I assume. Ty has a question for you, though, about you. Yeah, Coach, it seems like whenever someone gets hired from the Shanahan or McVeigh tree, like, immediately, whether it's the media or anyone, they put that, you know, offensive guru or Wunderkin moniker on them, and some guys live up to it, some guys don't.

Obviously, your offense was amazing last year, but how much more comfortable or confident do you feel now calling plays and like have you learned anything like oh this is what we need to do to be more successful like for instance was it last year when you're just like hey if I send Tyreek and Waddle in motion constantly and just always have those guys moving then no one's going to be able to guard us or like what has that process been like calling plays no so um so I've spent a good portion of my career preparing to call plays. But the good news is the first time doing it and then the second time doing it,

I'm, like, I think on the, there's improvement to be had for sure. As prepared as I was, there's so much that you learn with the different complexities of an NFL game. And, you know, I mean, even from practice, just calling plays is much more natural to me with a ton of reps. Imagine that. So, and then I think you just, what's been cool is, you know, I think the first training camp we had in 2022, you know, we tried our first timing motion play pass route with Tyreek.

We ended up running it against the Patriots in week one. But like that and where we've evolved, it's player-driven for sure. We have unique players with unique skill sets. So that, and really the whole group is kind of attacks things with, you know, a new thing is a challenge. It's not a fear. So constantly tailoring the offense to the specific individuals that we have playing for us. You know, it's always evolving. I get better at that with time and, you know, the connectivity between me and the coaching staff

and our ability to, you know, get the right ideas out there, that evolves as well so uh you know the i'm not getting worse at um uh doing doing my job uh with you know these these two two years have uh you know i'd like to think i was prepared for them but they were my first two years the tua stuff from hard knocks with all the motions remember that where i forget it's all coming back to me now as you're talking about the timing motion with – hey, Tyreek just said he could beat Noah Laws in a race week. We all agree that he could. For sure.

Right? We all agree. Nice. Yeah, sorry. I mean, I've seen him on a field that we can touch. With or without COVID. Give Noah Laws COVID. Okay. The COVID he had, though, the one that just disappears immediately afterwards.

The bronze COVID. Yeah, the bronze COVID. The bronze COVID that he gets out there. Let's make sure Tyreek does not have COVID. Let's do this in Miami, though. You know, this needs to be down in Miami. And then when you watch him move and you do the – because part of Tua's thing is having to memorize everybody that has to move

and the perfect timing that they have to move as well, while also watching the play clock and trying to figure out what the defense is doing so in between years it's crazy and i know the trust between you two was built up over time and there was a lot of times during hard knocks where you're like hey you're gonna mess this you're gonna mess this up like this is how this is gonna go and two i had to just kind of battle through and get to the point but whenever you see tyreek do something or or waddle but more specifically let's talk about tyreek before we get to jaylen waddle when you see a move do something or Waddle, but more specifically, let's talk about Tyreek before we get to Jalen Waddle. When you see a move, it's just different.

Everybody that plays against him says, hey, on film you can see it, and you're like, wow, this guy's fast. But against me, he's not going to be that fast. And then all of a sudden. Play him off a little bit. Yeah, against me, he's not going to be that fast. And then you see it, and you're like, holy shit, this is different. For you, that has to be so exciting whenever you talk about the creativity

you can get with it and how nobody on a football field, maybe nobody on earth, including Noah Lowes, can touch that guy. That has to be quite a dream scenario for a play designer, play caller in the NFL, I would assume. Yeah, no, you'd feel pretty guilty and question your chosen profession, if you didn't have reasons to feel ambition and be motivated in a scenario where guys are willing and able to try stuff that you haven't seen before. I think that just the evolution of how this is is to his primary language now, offensively, it's the longest he's ever been in a system. And when he's, we can have multiple motions on one player moving parts and you can see him

visually piece it together. So he's playing the game within, you know, this, this high pre-snap movement offense. And I think the connectivity between, you know, Tyreek and Tua, because the way they really attack practice as competitors and really trying to be great, as competitors and really trying to be great, they get some live speed timing that I think over time it's proven for defenders that they have a hard time keeping up with it because it's that ironed out. So I think everything they're doing is a result of what they're good at, plus investment to make it orchestrated in a way that makes it really hard

for even the perfect coverage to defend. So, yeah, it is a football blessing to be able to go to work in a scenario like that, for sure. Well, the coach with the good shoes and the good hair now obviously puts him in a good situation as well. You know, hey. Playing elite. What's that? Number one player in the league.

Tyreek Hill. Yeah. Yeah. Going for 2,000 yards, gets injured, though. No big deal. Yeah, no big deal. Led the NFL in pre-stamp motions. Obviously, defense coordinators are just like,

let's keep an eye on that fucking one. Then there's this fucking one. And then there's that. You know, it's just like, what an eye on that fucking one. Then there's this fucking one. It's just like, what a weapon. Yeah. Speaking of weapons, there is one that is no longer in the AFC East or the NFL. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, coach. In the realm of scoring

73 points, I got a stat for you that doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. And to be completely transparent, I have no idea if this is even true, but I believe you are the only anything in the grand scheme of things. And to be completely transparent, I have no idea if this is even true, but I believe you are the only coach in the history of the NFL to coach multiple seasons in the same division as Bill Belichick and never lose to him. Hashtag.

Hashtag stat that. So hats off to you. That's pretty sweet. Hanging the banner doesn't really mean shit, but still kind of something you can lay down and be like, hey, I never lost to Bill Belichick. Suck it. With that being said.

What's that? What's that? I mean, I guess you'd have to specify never lost with Tua as the starter. We lost a game Tua didn't play on the road in 22. Loser. Loser. This guy can't beat Belichick. Okay.

Redact everything I just said then. Redaction. No, no. Like most of what you said, and I think it is a hilarious stat because if we put screen by screen a list of accomplishments in said job, Mike McDaniel versus Bill Belichick. I think, yeah, mine would be this big and his would be a plethora. So if I can have one win that has an asterisk, I'll take it.

Okay, well, you got it. You got it. This is a Patriot fan. Congratulations. Plus, what have you done for me lately anyways? But with that being said, have you visualized yet going up to New England and looking across the field and not seeing Bill? And did you really think about like, hey, maybe I do reach out to him

like Kyle Shanahan did and just see if he wants to come and be the ball boy or do anything for me this season because he's not coaching? Yeah, Miami retirement. Yeah. Well, you know, it's really i think it goes it it speaks to like the i mean the the crater like impact that you know that this one coach had on the national football league it is no i can't picture him not there. And I guarantee, you know, like every person, the first time they go to Gillette,

that's going to be on their mind at some point in time. You know, I know it will be on mine. So I think that speaks to, you know, really the massive impact that he's had on the National Football League, just to be that pillar. Um, and, uh, you know, I think, I mean, if, if, if he just wants to sign an autograph for me, I'll, I'll be pumped about that. I don't need necessarily for him to come, you know, put in sweat equity for the dolphins,

him to come you know put in sweat equity for the dolphins like just or just maybe uh shoot me some tutelage on on uh how to um but i don't know survive in this game for in three different decades um all the while putting forth scheme that people can't copy. I mean, people don't realize how unbelievable of a defensive mind this guy was. There's games that we so happen to win. Two in particular, some of the best defensive game plans I've ever gone against. So whatever he wants to do, if he wants to come high-five me, I think I'd be pumped because maybe he can rub off

some of that magical spirit on me. Yeah, osmosis maybe there with the 49 years in the NFL, I think, Coach. And obviously, you've been crazy. He's out of Washington. He's at the University of Washington right now. Him, Pete Carroll, Michael Lombardi, I forget who else. They're all just doing training camp's at the University of Washington right now. Him, Pete Carroll, Michael Lombardi,

I forget who else. They're all just doing training camp at the Washington Huskies right now. Just loving ball. No whistle, though. Ted Fish has the whistle. He doesn't have a whistle, but he's just moseying around. Can't help it. Has to be in a training camp right now.

The Washington team just has them. That's unfair. That feels like that's why that's unfair that feels like that's a bit unfair but uh yeah right doesn't it yeah that's like insider trading or something yeah yeah it is yeah yeah yeah yeah that makes sense but yeah yeah we love it uh all right last question here comes from a man who idolizes you. You need to know that. Former ship painter, now just the greatest internet splunker in the history of the internet.

Gumpy has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, Jalen Wright out of Tennessee looked unbelievable on Friday night. How excited are you to just add another stud to that stable of running backs you got going on? Well, if there's one thing that i've learned in national football league is the best way to make players their best is uh have a highly competitive situation so i'm really excited for that the entire room in general because, you know,

every time somebody makes a play, it kind of raises the standard and, you know, raises the amount of detail and regard that, you know, if you are on the field doing anything to give reason to keep you on the field because there's a lot of guys that are capable to make plays. So overall, I just really like where that room is at, Jalen included. But from top to bottom, really the group is full of people that are NFL caliber playmakers that can and will do it this year. Well, you've been able to do it with the running backs and your weapons

and quarterback and offensive football and the NFL as a whole. Has been nothing short of remarkable. You are a whiz kid. Truly. An absolute whiz kid. And the fact that you spent this much time with us today we are so thankful man we appreciate the hell out of you good luck the rest of the way well i really regard what you guys do and um i appreciate the time and uh um we'll just keep chopping wood so uh you're not

just talking about how cool the program is we're talking about how successful it is too yeah but being cool is part of it also success yeah that's a good part of the success, I think. You can't stay cool for that long unless you're successful. So it's the same ends. Yeah, you become lame quick. Yeah. Yeah, if you don't have success. But you've had success.

Now, granted, got to move that to the postseason. That's right. Let's have a home game. Let's have a home game. Let's have sweet shoes all season. Let's have the capris rolled up. Let's have a hoodie on in 99 degree weather. Let's be the coolest group of people on earth.

Coach, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. Hey, we agree with your daughter. Keep that hair going. Yep, need the flow. Let that thing hang. Ladies and gentlemen.

Long hair, I do care. Well, you have have to and that's why you're a coach ladies and gentlemen he was awesome absolutely electrifying obviously through and through i think i saw a lot of people on the internet potentially seeing mike mcdaniel in a conversation for the first time yeah you gotta listen if you listen there's magic coming through there. His delivery is certainly unique, but what a weapon for the Miami Dolphins. We had some breaking news while we were running that conversation from earlier, and it's not great news

if you're a Minnesota Vikings fan. Oh, no. J.J. McCarthy, who obviously showed incredible promise in his preseason debut with the Minnesota Vikings after being drafted in the first round to be their future quarterback. After moving on from Kirk Cousins, knee surgery. Yeah, torn meniscus or partially torn meniscus.

I don't think they know yet until they go in there. That was broken at 12.27 Eastern time by Adam Schefter, and then Rappaport would follow up that it was a meniscus. I've had a torn meniscus before. There's obviously different varying fallout time for it on the back end. Could be anywhere from a month and a half, could be a couple months, who knows? They're going in, they're gonna figure it out. This is a bummer.

JJ McCarthy seemingly was the perfect guy to be an NFL quarterback. Now we're gonna have to delay a little bit and hello to the Sam Darnold era with the Minnesota Vikings. They go from Kirk Cousins to the And hello to the Sam Darnold era with the Minnesota Vikings. They go from Kirk Cousins to the Pastronaut to Sam Darnold with KOC. We shall see how the beginning of this season begins for them. And J.J. McCarthy, Godspeed, brother. Godspeed, brother. He gave like a perfect answer to another question in a press conference

or at his locker the other day. Hey, what was going through your head after you threw that pick early against the Raiders? He thought for a second, and he goes, man, what an opportunity for me. And it's like, oh, this is Harbaugh speaking. Literally threw this guy. I think he's going to come back better, stronger than ever,

but certainly a minor setback for a major comeback. But that's a bummer. Yeah, that stinks. That is not how you want to get out the gates. That's a bad start. You know what I mean? That is not how you want to get out the gates. But he'll make it better.

The guy's a winner. He'll beat this damn surgery and the rehab. Sorry to Minnesota Vikings fans out there. That's a bad start. You know what I mean? That is not how you want to get out to Gates. But he'll make it better. The guy's a winner. He'll beat this damn surgery and the rehab. Sorry to Minnesota Vikings fans out there. Still got KOC. Yeah, still got KOC, still got Darnold, but there's been a lot of like, you know. Got Justin Jefferson. We're good. KOC was great yesterday. They'll be great. At Desjardins, we speak

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and football season is all the way back which means there's news and updates and drama and storylines and holdouts and people that get traded to teams and never step foot into their building so it is a glorious time to be a sports fan and a football fan and we're incredibly lucky to be here thank you so much for joining us now the talk table is here at ty schmidt at b Corner. How we doing, Con Man? Yeah, not good. Foxy, show it, please. Unfortunately, now the tides have turned. I've lost count of the amount of sacks generated by the Eagles.

A rough practice for the Patriots O-line, says Dakota Randall. So, yeah, I feel like shit now. Okay, no, no, no, because just an hour ago, literally, just an hour ago, you're on top of the world because we saw Drake May do this. Foxy! Yep. This is how we started the entire program. Hey, Conman, how you doing? Well, let me show you a throw from Drake that poked two rookies against the Eagles.

Conor was on top of the world. Yeah. Conor was on top of the world. Now they're starting to realize that maybe you're not going to be able to make that throw if nobody can protect you, which has seemingly been an issue for a little bit with the New England Patriots, and he's at the bottom of the mountain all of a sudden. This is training camp football. That's right.

You can find highlights in training camp that make you feel good about your team, and if you really want to, you can find things that are negative about your team in training camp. All these teams are getting better. Whenever you see a glimmer of hope, you should hold on to that for at least a day. Don't go out or out like Con Man is doing right now. Yeah, I mean, you shouldn't, but this is just the reality of what fans go through, and this is how I genuinely feel, and the coolest part about that Drake May

to Jalen Polk throw, no offensive line. So if there is this version... Yeah, there's potentially flag football coming to the NFL. Yeah, so we should kind of consider maybe Drake May for the 2028 LA Olympics to play quarterback for the flag team, because I mean, right now, it looks as though he's the best flag quarterback. And maybe Polk.

And maybe Polk. Two rookies up there. That has to be good news. Nine-year NFL vet drafted by the New England Patriots. Two young guys showing up like that. That is a spark of optimism for everybody. Absolutely. How much are we going to change your thoughts? Remember last year, Pittsburgh Steelers, Kenny Pickett,

he's the guy. Super Bowl. They were going to win. How much should we take serious right now, D-Budge? How serious should Boston Carter be taking all these reports? Practice to practice, almost drill to drill seemingly after he's training camp practice. It's different there with Pittsburgh because obviously Tomlin's been there a long time. Kenny Pickett, first-round pick, he's been there a while. Completely new guard in New England, so you've got to react to everything.

New head coach, my former teammate, Rob Mayo. Jacoby Brissett, the start quarterback. And obviously you draft Drake May, top three. So you expect him to be the future. So, yeah, every play, every tweet from the guys that have boots, guys and gals who have boots on the ground out there. So you got to react to it just like Connor is. Yeah, well, I mean, then we should probably show the other tweet.

Sure. What's the other tweet? Look, I'm not going to say that I feel a little better because of this tweet, but allegedly Drake made perfect 9 for 9 and 7 on 7. Flag football. And 11 on 11. Oh, with the offensive line. So hold the phone.

Yeah, and granted 9 for 9. I don't think that counts for the sacks he took. No, they would blow that dead. Yeah, okay. They would blow that dead. So it okay. They would blow that dead. So it does. They would blow that dead. Unless after he gets sacked, he gets up, rolls out of the pocket like he's a wide receiver coach,

trying to get a little extra in through it. Which he could. Which would be awesome. And they're like, hey, he completed that. Check down. Never sacked him. After the sack, obviously, it takes place. Drake May is from Savage Sports, obviously.

Drake May in the initial 7-on-7, 11-on-11 periods against the Eagles. 9-for-9, no incompletion. Eyeball fire flame. Is that good? I don't know. You tell me. Drake May is on fire. He is amazing.

Joining us now is another man who's been amazing throughout his life. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion. Father of 10, this man. People put him up for dad of the year because he's former president of the state of Ohio, which not a lot of people get. Greatest jawline in sports media, but if JD McDonough was to come into sports media

of the judgment day, I do believe this man would have a little bit of competition, but since they're in different professions, this man, still greatest jaw in all of sports, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Yeah, Hawker. I don't know if you've seen JD McDonough's jawline. He actually has the sweet chin music, which is not HBK's kick to the chin.

It's actually the chin being the music as an absolute weapon. And I know you want to do that with your WWE 2K character as well. Yeah, my character, I think someone did send me a clip. I think I do like a headbutt, not really a chinbutt off the turnbuckle, but kind of a headbutt into people's temple. But no, I would never try to challenge J.D. McDonough. I know how much respect he has in that office and everywhere around the WWE universe. J.D. McDonough is a dog.

He's aligned himself with some bumps. Which is interesting. And he has certainly put himself in some precarious positions But that's JD McDonough taking it to Damian Priest. Oh, no JD McDonough's getting carried around Wow See ya soul JD McDonough's dead on Monday Night Raw I mean last night there was a lot of chaos obviously and JD McDon.D. McDonough's a dog, but this is a good kind of jumping off point

that I missed yesterday for a conversation with you. Hey, Guardian caps all over preseason. Okay, in live action, and we were wondering if this was the first time, you know, because Dr. Alan Sills said this is the first time we've allowed them to be worn in a game. If guys want to, it's certainly up to them. We will

monitor and keep track of all the stats. But this has been happening a long time. We found out. We searched the internet. Obviously, Gumpy, D-Bone, the boys, everybody was spunking around. We didn't know you actually. Did you? You started this entire thing.

We didn't know that you were a Guardian Cap wearer before everybody else. You know, that's the throwback helmet everybody thought. But actually, it was Guardian Cap on top of helmet led by aj hawk so aj since you're a trailblazer in this entire thing how would you tell us your thoughts on it all and how do you think it ends up in the guardian cap era here seemingly i mean first off let's i mean come on now great great work great work in the graphics department guys appreciate you guys putting this together it honestly doesn't look as bad as i thought on some of them some of the colts helmets did not look as bad When they were white

From this angle, yes I still struggle with that look a little bit What happens if it rains? Does that thing soak up the water? Is that an extra three pounds? We got further verification On information as we were dissecting The Guardian era on caps

From potentially Sources At the NFL were dissecting the guardian era on caps from potentially uh sources at the nfl okay whenever we were saying it just looks so big but i guess that's just going to be the new thing only one inch larger okay okay we were told okay we were sent we're only one inch uh one inch larger so and 0.8 pounds heavier okay so let's not get crazy whenever we're talking about the size and how bad it looks. Only one inch, okay, that's nothing. But it is a very different look, you know. It is putting seemingly pillows on top of the helmet,

which is gonna lead us to new helmets. And I think like our email has already been filled up with helmet manufacturers that have not been able to crack into the NFL who have a brand new idea on what a helmet looks like. Like, I think there's a lot of people seeing opportunity now because what it used to be viewed like. But with the helmets first now, it's like much more accepted, I think, to do this. AJ, if you were playing football right now and this was an option, would you put the Guardian cap on your helmet? And why would you or why would you not?

I mean, so, like, no, I would not wear it. I mean, come on now. Like, it just feels like it would be super uncomfortable. I'm not blaming anybody for wearing it. I've never worn one, so I do have questions, like, what does it feel like? What does it sound like when there is contact? Maybe it feels really good. All of a sudden, maybe it feels great, and you love it. I can't

foresee myself of doing this in the past, but I don't know. Basically, what's going to happen is all the helmets are just going to have built-in guardian caps. That's where we're going. Bingo. Yeah, and there's one, Safer SAFR is doing some college football stuff, and it looks just like the helmet, but it is certainly attached on top of the helmet. It's like putting a shin guard on top of the helmet, and inevitably whoever's the first, and everybody feels the race,

whoever can just, you know, kind of weld that in together, feels like you got the winner. You win. Now, I don't know if you heard the news. Out of Minnesota, it was broken at 1227 Eastern Time via Adam Schefter's Twitter account. J.J. McCarthy will be undergoing knee surgery. Further information released would tell us that that'd be

on a meniscus. Is it a full tear? Is it a partial tear? Joining us now, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Hey, Schefter. Hey, Schefter. Gentlemen, what is going on today? I hate to hear this about a Michigan man. Obviously, we all saw the way he has handled himself as a Minnesota Viking. We saw his preseason debut.

We saw glimmers of hope, and we know Sam Darnold's there, so we don't know what the entire schedule was going to be for him to play at the beginning of the season anyways. But this comes after he says he has soreness, and what are we looking at down the road now, Shefty? Well, essentially, Pat, they went in, they did an MRI on Monday night, and they found the torn meniscus. And now the question is whether he will need just a trimming of that meniscus or whether he will need a complete repair. There are two very different timelines for each surgery depending on what doctors believe is the best option. So we don't know right now whether he's going to be out multiple weeks

or potentially a whole lot longer for J.J. McCarthy. The surgery will determine exactly how long he's out. But I think for now, suffice it to say, you hope that he comes back from this. You hope he comes back from this quickly. And the Vikings are now going to prepare Sam Darnold to start opening day against the Giants in New York, New Jersey. And that's going to be the path they have to take because J.J. is going to need this surgery after undergoing that MRI on Monday night. Godspeed to J.J. in recovery. I had meniscus, but it was always at the end of the season,

so there was never any rush on the way back. A.J., did you ever have in-season meniscus? No, it was always off-season for me. Yeah, me too. But I've seen some guys get a scope surgery that I got and get back on their feet and in the building a lot quicker than i did but there was no depends repair remove if you remove cartilage then you come back quicker if you repair it you kind of sew it together and that's when you have to be

like non-weight bearing for six or eight weeks sometimes okay got it and then but if you remove it that's a forever thing no it's yeah it's gone but you could you come back quicker it's not yeah if you repair it it's better long term for not, yeah, if you repair it, it's better long-term for your health. Yeah, and if you remove it, it is just you can't walk, you know, comfortably. Yeah, welcome to the club. Yeah, AJ Hall. Yeah, the whole thing. And there is allegedly some European doctor, I think German maybe, that has figured out how to put a new one in.

It's been in testing for like 15 years, I think. But with my Instagram feed, I see him pop up in there nonetheless meniscus big decision jj mccarthy missing the start of season we are bummed out because he looks special obviously and we're excited to see him get started down the road whenever it takes place go ahead aj chef you mentioned uh new york new jersey what's going on with hassan reddick in his whole situation now requesting a trade from the jets and he hasn't even been there yet. How do you see this thing kind of playing out? Well, they're in a tough spot, both sides right now, because essentially Hassan Reddick shows up to the Jets complex after the trade's completed, goes through the introductory press

conference, praises the organization, takes his physical, and basically that's the last time we've seen or heard from Hassan Reddick until he issues the trade request which obviously the Jets say they're not going to honor so we've got a guy who says he's not showing up without a contract we've got a team who says they're not paying the player unless he shows up we've got both sides dug in to their stances, and we've got a situation that doesn't help anybody. So at some point in time, somebody has to step up and try to figure out a solution to this particular situation that is dragged on during the offseason into training camp. Four and a half months right now, Hassan Redick is scheduled to make $14.25 million in the last year of his deal.

It's exactly why Philadelphia traded him. The Eagles were not prepared to pay him what he wanted. The Jets thought they might be able to work out a deal, but they stopped talking to him. The last offer that they made to him, essentially, was right at the time of the trade. It was a subpar offer in Hassan Reddick's estimation and opinion. He didn't take it. And there have been no further contract talks since then. And so now we're at a stalemate.

Hey, hey. Is that normal? That doesn't seem normal in 2024 because there's precedent in these types of trades that have happened in the past. So somebody fucking it up feels bushly. Is that bushly? Should we be viewing it as how this feels amateur? Does it? And is that how we should be viewing it as like how this feels amateur? Like, does it? And is that how we should be viewing it?

Or does this happen more often and we just don't know about it because it's not like all pro caliber player to a team that is allegedly trying to win a Super Bowl or bust this year? So, like, you wouldn't think that would happen with that type of organization or program. But then I guess, does this happen often? And I just am lapsed in memory here. Well, I think it's a little bit unusual. I don't remember a situation going on like this where a team traded for a guy

and the guys requested a trade before he ever really stepped foot into that building to play it down for that team. That's a little bit unusual. It feels a little bit like Bill Belichick resigning as the head coach of the New York Jets four or five minutes after he was going to get the job. It's the modern- day player version of that. And I think the unfortunate part is that somehow this became public. These two sides should have handled it privately and gotten it resolved before it got to this point in time. But both sides feel very strongly about their particular stances and where they're coming from.

And the Jets feel like they don't want to reward a player who stayed away, demanded a trade without ever having taken part in a practice for that team. The player feels like, I'm an elite pass rusher. You need me to make a playoff run. You should be paying me what some of the top pass rushers are making, considering I'm making $14.25 million this year. And so they're at a standstill. So again, somebody's got to step forward and figure out a solution. They each have said what they want. It's gone public. We can debate the merits of each side. What are they doing to advance this, to get it solved before they open the season in San Francisco on Monday night in a few weeks? Does Reddick represent himself? No. He's got an agent.

Okay, so that's even more so. I don't know how we get to this point because I assume Hassan Redick isn't the only player that this agent reps and I assume there's other business that has been done between Joe Douglas and his agent. So to get to this point just seems like an incredible amount of miscommunication

and almost just like malpractice out of business sense to get it figured out and get it sorted which leads to the iuk situation yep that is currently happening right now to get that entire thing sorted we're kind of learning right in front of us what is the possibilities as it all takes place let's go to another bum dot injury d butch got a question for you chef d yeah jameer gibbs i know we got a lot of fantasy football drafts coming up. Jameer Gibbs, Christian McCaffrey still. Any updates with those injuries? Yeah. Gibbs essentially left practice yesterday with what the team called a leg injury.

So, again, made some calls and found that it's a hamstring. Now, I don't know the extent of the hamstring, but I'm going to guess it's a hamstring injury, which means I would guess we will not see Jameer Gibbs the rest of the summer, and we will prepare to see him on opening night against the Los Angeles Rams. That would be my guess, a guess on a hamstring injury. But when you're talking about a player this explosive, this dynamic, this talented, obviously it's a huge concern anytime there's any sort of injury. But again, hamstring would tell me that he's going to have a real chance to be back on opening night and the

team will be smart about it until then. Christian McCaffrey, calf strain. It's a similar kind of thing. You know, those are the kinds of muscle strains you don't want to have to deal with in camp, but you get them a month out of the season opener, sit the guy down, take it easy on him, and we'll see you on opening weekend. It's the same type of situation, different muscles, different strains, and we'll see how each player can respond in time for the start of the regular season. Yeah, and get it out of the way. Get the cold now so you can get the antibodies.

Bingo. Get COVID now so you can make it through football season. Smart. Without it, build up the antibodies. You know, pull a calf now so you can't pull a calf later. That's how it works. Hopefully they don't linger.

I'll keep them on my draft board for now. I'm saying it's calf injuries, especially calves. We've seen them linger. Quarterbacks, running backs, soft tissue. You want to go into the season 100%. What's your goal? You go up the antibodies. You just go up the calves. It's good. It's going to be good i hope so hamstrings will be stronger than it's ever been yeah that's what they're saying that is those muscles though boy they go on and on

especially with low low body fat guys yeah explosive which is why tyree kill so impressive like nobody talks about his durability enough. We should talk about that. Last question here, Schefter, as we steal your time and have our own conversations, which we do apologize for, Connor's got something about New England, possibly. Yeah, Schefter, multiple teams have reached out

to New England about Matthew Judom. What's the situation there, and is there a chance that a deal gets done now that Iuke to New England is not happening and they have the most cap space in the nfl yeah i think new england has wanted to re-sign matthew judon it's worked on re-signing matthew judon a deal has not gotten done to me it's the type of situation where why would new england trade judon right now before the start of the season it would send a bad message in my mind to the team now if the season opens up it's, it's not going the way they want, which is not what I think they're thinking right now. You could always revisit that coming up to the trade deadline, right? But to trade them now before the season

for a pick or two in 2025 or six, how does that help you on opening day? If you're knowing it doesn't. And so to me, if you're the Patriots, you keep working on a contract extension. You see if you can get something done for a player that you want to keep who's been highly productive. And if you can't, then at that point in time, later in the season, if the season's not going the way you want, then you could always revisit a trade at that time. But to think that they're going to go

and trade Matthew Judon now before the season doesn't make sense to me, but let's see how they operate. The NFL's awesome. We shall see and learn about the Coach Mayo and Elliott Wolfe program being run up in New England as the days roll on. I think we're all excited to see if that offensive line

can protect that Drake May. It will be. Yeah, for a rookie of the year run, maybe. I don't see why not. Or Polk, rookie of the year run. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe both. Coe. Wow. New England's on the up and up. Or a Joe Milton rookie of the year run. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe both. Coe. Wow. New England's on the up and up. Or a Joe Milton rookie of the year run. Oh! That's a great shot.

Just shut up. Why would you even throw that out there? Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Schefter's awesome. Obviously a lot of news around the NFL, but big news in college football yesterday. Massive. The first AP Top 25 going into the season was released.

After you get a chance to sleep on it, think about it, check it out, you really quickly, not with it, you're not sleeping with it. Well, you may, maybe. If you print it out, you might sleep with it. Yeah, but I'm talking metaphorically. You get to

think about it overnight. Right. You quickly realize, okay, this is Big Ten SEC. We got a north-south situation really brewing here in the entirety. To break it down a little bit more, let's go to Hammer. Don. Don. An author.

Ladies and gentlemen, he might be adding a new title very soon that, holy shit, would legitimize this man more than any of us could ever be. Mm-hmm. Tone Diggs. Tone, what are our thoughts on the top 25, pal? Thank you, NickNackPattyMac. Let's start right there. Mars! Yeah, yeah.

I got it from Jameis. It didn't come from me. He's evolving. Thank you. The AP did a phenomenal job here. I don't know if I would change anything that the AP did here. Just an unbelievable group of people. Just kidding.

Just kidding. The AP, what do you mean? You disagree? You don't like the AP? More later on that. But no, the knick-knack patty mac. I said that because you've got to give a dog a bone. Who sits at number one right there? The Georgia Dogs.

The Dogs have only lost two games in the last three seasons. It starts right there with that man throwing the ball, Carson Beck. Now he loses Ladd McConkie and Brock Bars, but he's got his guys back. Dominic Lovett, Anus Smith, and Dylan right here. What Smith? Anus. Double checking names. Interesting.

Arian. What-checking names. Interesting. Listen. Arian. What? Aeneas. I was guessing. I'm guessing it's not pronounced Anus Smith. I don't know. That's why I asked.

I'm just guessing. That's why I asked. We don't know. No, it's Arian. No, that was on me. That was on me. You let AP tell you. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

That was on me. If they got an Anus Smith. The knick-knack patty-mack still kind of got me there. A're right. That was on me. They got an anus Smith. The knick-knack patty-mack still kind of got me there. Arian Smith, that's on me. That's my bad right there. Hey, listen, that's going to happen. You've got so many things going on. But they return eight guys off of an offense that scored 40 points per game last year.

And they were the number seven-ranked defense. And they return all-conference guys at every single level. So the dogs are the dogs. Last year, that one loss coming to the SEC Championship, that happens again. The dogs are going to be in the playoffs again this year, and they're going to be wreaking havoc again. Number two, the Ohio State Buckeyes, who were 12-2 last season, 12-1 in the regular season.

That's Trevion Henderson right there. He comes back leading the offense, now run by Chip Kelly. Trevion Henderson will be joined in the backfield by Quinshot Judkins out of Ole Miss, who is all-conference for the SEC there. That's Emeka Ibuka, who has been a stud wide receiver for a long, long time. And the new quarterback this year is Will Howard, who is all-conference in the Big 12, who they're looking, they'll think will be an upgrade last year

from Kyle McCord in that situation. The thing that stands out for Ohio State for me, they gave up 11 points per game on defense last year, and they returned eight starters from that defense. Now, I'm going to say this, and it might come true, it might not. I don't think they give up a touchdown in the first five weeks of the season before they meet Oregon

in week six. Yeah, it's a couple non-conferences and then no disrespect to the couple Big Ten teams that they play in the first five weeks. I think one of them is Iowa. Maybe one of them might be Rutgers or something like that, but I just don't know. They gave up 11 points per game last year.

The defense is absurd. Adding Caleb Downs. And Caleb Downs, yes. Which Alabama people said, hey, this is the guy. Hall of Famer. Gold jacket. The day he stepped onto the campus as a freshman, they were like, that might be the greatest guy that ever comes through

our entire building and program now think about alabama just go ahead all the names that was literally as soon as he got there and then he started and then he was the best player like and he just goes to ohio state yeah you guys are cheating over here in columbus yeah we know you're cheating again they say he's like uh he's like having another defensive coordinator on the field they say already yeah literally since his freshman year of college. How's that? He's just the one. He's the one.

Big brother here. And he goes to Columbus. He has big brothers here. Josh Dons. Oh, that's the same family? Yeah. Football guys. Holy shit.

We need him back. Let's get him healthy. All right, Tony, anything else we need to know from that top 10, from the AP top 25 that we should be thinking about? A lot of SEC Big Ten, right? That's top 25 that we should be thinking about a lot of SEC big 10 right that's kind of the big storyline big 10 and then there was some facts floating around out there 18 of the last 20 seasons uh the national championship has their national champion has come from the top seven uh which you know I I agree with there yeah that's from Brett McMurphy

um I think it's going to come from number one, two, three, or the current number six spot at Ole Miss, but most likely going to come from the top seven. And then every single year of the 20 out of the last 21 seasons, someone in that top 10 will fall to be unranked. So a lot of people are wondering who that could be this season as well. It won't be Penn State. No. Because they'll be 10-2 or whatever. It won't be Penn State. It won't be Notre State. No. No. Because they'll be 10-2 or whatever.

It won't be Penn State. Won't be Notre Dame. No. Won't be Notre Dame. Florida State. Won't be Florida State. No chance. DJ Uyunglele, who is a veteran in the game in Florida State with Norvell, the recruiting.

I will be intrigued to see who falls. That'll be fascinating. Tone, we appreciate you so much. Excited for this college football season to get started in just? I believe we are now 11 days. Okay, we're not doing it anymore. All right, all right. Thank you, Tone.

It's got to be less than that. Thank you, Tone. No, it is 11. Thank you so much, Tone. No problem. Joining us now live, ladies and gentlemen, is the guru on football and quarterback. So much so, he actually became a writer on ESPN

Com and put out a ranking of all of his top tens in every bucket. You could judge a quarterback ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky Dan oh sorry, sorry, we're a little bit late how it looks beautiful wherever you are and you look super cool Not as cool as McDaniel, but super cool With McDaniel but super cool but McDaniel this is my backyard I mean it's just a backyard it's pretty basic huge yard wow I mean dude it's a backyard look it's a salt water is that marble geez Louise of course it's saltwater, AJ. It's not 1994, dude. It's interesting that they used to put all those chemicals in there and those pool companies used to have you.

They were the only ones who know the science. You've got to have to have us come every single week. Saltwater, bad. That's bad for your pool. It's going to erupt the whole thing. Your body's not going to like the saltwater. You're going to need to keep these chemicals at the perfect level. What an evolution of the pool.

It's for the people. It's because they know everybody's taking a leak in there that's why the chlorine helps that so it's salt salt yeah because i don't know all the time people are being a little bigger it's a little bigger than dano's pool i don't know i don't know this is the thing you don't aj you don't pee in the pool no it depends who depends where it is you know but yeah i'm saying that's why the chlorine is always involved Because that helps do whatever This is actually a good transition Let's talk about pissing into the wind

Dan, you do a lot of that it seems like Whenever we're talking about sports media takes Can't win, can't win Having a good pee, having a good pee, feeling good But then it's coming right back in your face And that seemingly happens a lot With whenever you start doing the judging And the ranking and the opinion opining in everything that you do let's talk about these

top 10 rankings and how we got to the individual like secondary reaction arm strength here we go dan rolovsky's top 10 available to espn.com i think you look at that there'll be a couple names you get surprised by and it's like okay we can, we can kind of just go ahead, pal. Well, so attached to each group ranking was a write-up. Well, no, we didn't read that. We didn't read that, Dan. Forget about that. Why would you do that?

So the arm strength one, I kind of broke down into two separate things and tried to morph them together. So it was the guys that can launch it downfield in a 70-ish yard range like some of those guys like josh is certainly one of those guys herbert's one of those guys will levis one of baker that's why baker's in there and then it was the also the guys that you know can fit in that 20 yard throw that's got to be on an absolute rope that's stepped on, and that's where Stafford gets into that one. Rodgers gets into that one. Lamar gets into that one.

So does Anthony as well. So it's a little bit of a grouping of both those, like who can launch it and or who I think is the best at just ripping one in a small space 20 yards. Okay, so let's move on from the arm strength top 10. Let's go to ball placement. Obviously, you do not have Aaron Rodgers on this one, which would certainly be a conversation, I think, amongst any football person that has a brain.

You do that on purpose, or you just have a different eye on everything? No, I mean, so accuracy, ball placement, different things. We've talked about that. Accuracy, throwing to your guy. Ball placement, throwing away from the defender. You know, I was trying to be with some of these, ball placement, different things. We've talked about that. Accuracy, throwing to your guy. Ball placement, throwing away from the defender. You know, I was trying to be with some of these, you know, Pat, like I was trying to be a little bit conscious and aware of like the present day. Obviously, Aaron is in that conversation.

Didn't play last year. It was a little bit like Kyler as well with the running. So, you know, I try to be, you to be fair to some of the guys that did it recently and in this past season in comparison to maybe not, you know, Aaron being there. Got it. And Aaron dropped one 70 yards for the arm strength one last year. So in those four plays. Highest seasons for ratio.

Well, excuse me, you're talking about... Well, that's why Aaron's in that decision-making. You know, Aaron's got the six best seasons ever. Okay, here it is. You're like, yeah, okay, we brought him back. Because there's some guys that I feel, like Geno Smith, I felt needed to be in the ball placement, because

I don't think a guy threw more perfect passes in the last two seasons than Geno, and so I wanted to get Geno in there and somewhere and so the decision making I kind of broke down the decision making and into two separate things you know when I first got started doing this it was trying to get everyone to understand as a quarterback you get your play and every play you know there's an opportunity as attached to that play there's a problem as attached to that play and then you get to line of scrimmage and there's an opportunity that the defense presents

to you if you have the perfect play or the perfect pass versus that ideal coverage and then there's a problem oh my gosh we here comes a pressure how do i handle that pressure and so the decision making was attached to who are the best guys when it comes to that stuff you know the defense forces you to do something with the ball Don't make a good decision make the right decision and then also like who are those guys that make some decisions? With the football and I'm gonna panic with it. I'm not gonna panic with it I'm gonna do something better with it situation So that's kind of how I came together with a who grouped into that one nice

Decision-making with football. Need to get everybody in there. You know, everybody let's think of ideas. Let's get some mechanics. Who's throwing the ball properly? I like that. Who's throwing the ball properly? Who, who's footwork and who's arm, you know, stroke swing is the one that we need to be focusing on the most. Who's teach taping for throwing? This is the crew right here. Yeah. i think this is the group that's most tied to you know like release natural thrower feet and upper body tied together uh that's a repeatable consistent thing guys that mechanically are so sound that they don't need perfection all the time to still operate in that little operational space that's necessary to kind of play at the level that they're accustomed to.

So those are the guys. I mean, CJ's in a ton of them. I think Joe is probably the standard of it right now or the person that sits on top of the throne just because he's just so consistently repeatable. Stafford, that's probably the best evolution of his game that he started close to 10 years ago uh Herbert's a robot CJ stroke is so pure Dak really is improved in that over the past couple years yeah um we're stroking yeah stroking in the what did you think of that? It was stroking. I think what's fascinating here is isn't Tua Tongvaloa considered to be a righty?

Don't people say that about him? Or that was something that people were saying about him? Maybe he was ambidextrous or something like that? His dad made him throw lefty. Or something, right? Yeah, and now he's in the top ten mechanics for his wrong arm. That's wild.

That's wild. Hey, guys, it's a dog top 10 mechanics for his wrong arm that's wild that's a wild hey guys way to figure that whole thing out let's go to the next uh pocket presence obviously a lot of similar names on here a lot of similar names on each one of them and who was who like you were creating things to vote because then the next one is um uh rushing ability which obviously kyler murray is below joe burrow in it and there's going to be people that are going to talk about that and and there might have been a conversation on the internet or two about that one yesterday when it here here's my here's my reasoning behind that because everyone you know lost their minds um it goes back to a little bit first of all joe's an unbelievable runner i mean we we've seen him you know win playoff games because of it just because they don't do it in design fashion um it's a little bit attached to we really haven't seen kyler be a dynamic runner since 21 right like

22 i don't exactly remember when the acl happened i'm sure he ran a little bit in the early parts of 21. So the ACL happened, and then he didn't play for 80% of the season last year. And when he came back, he wasn't used in that. So obviously, Kyler's an unbelievable runner. It's just I'm trying to be conscious of the fact that he's missed that time. Is he going to be used in the same way that he was early in his career coming off of that injury? I don't know.

So I'm not minimizing his athleticism. It's just trying to be, again, aware of that. Good decision. Right decision. Running ability. Rushing ability. Right. Okay.

Okay. I see that now. There's levels to this shit. There's levels. And then there You know, there's levels. And then there's also a way to judge. How about your secondary reactions? How about your second reaction ability? Whenever things aren't great, how do you respond?

What? Yeah. I didn't see this. Mental toughness here in the secondary reaction. Caleb hasn't taken a step yet. Minshew. We saw him in preseason. Caleb understands. Minshew's unbelievable at it. Agreed. He made a Pro Bowl last year. Made a Pro Bowl preseason. Caleb understands. Minshew's unbelievable at it.

Agreed. He made a Pro Bowl last year. Made a Pro Bowl last year. Top 10. He's got top 10. Took a team to week 18 with the playoffs on the line. Much better than Rodgers. Just real quick.

How many plays did you watch to judge everybody accurately on second reactions? You know? Well, I mean, it goes back to their performance of last season and trying to foreshadow a little bit. USC. Okay. All right. Yeah, I mean, Caleb is one of the better guys that we've had come out of college

when it comes to that element of his game in years. Agreed. That's true. Zach Wilson didn't do that a ton at BYU. Can you go back to the last one? He didn't. How come Caleb's not on there? I've seen him running around.

I didn't know we were able to do that. I didn't know we were putting rookies in. Well, I mean, yeah. So what happened was they came to me. Oh, man. We got you, Dan. Dan! You know it.

Dan, we got you in that saltwater pool right now. No, you don't. You guys aren't letting me explain it in Connors being a butthead. Oh! No need to cuss, brother. Jeez. Kids are watching. We've done this over the past couple years as a group type of thing,

where we all have kind of ranked them one through ten in these different categories, and then they kind of, I guess, take all that information and create them, and then ESPN and the people that we've been a part of doing this with came to me and said, hey, we're just going to have you do it this year is that cool and so I initially did

a rough draft and they pushed back to me a little bit and said hey what do you think about uh did you forget about this guy or this guy and so and I was like no and they're like how about throwing rookies in do you think that's warranted and I was like I don't really want to throw rookies that much in or in that much and so you know jayden was in consideration for ball placement and i wanted to eat caleb in there so um you know like it was a little bit of a collaborative effort um when it came to some of the people that were behind the brains of formatting it but um adding rookies in there was as it was the potential for every category okay hey we appreciate your effort and your work for football.

Not only now on ESPN.com, but for all of us. I mean, as soon as we saw it, it's like, thank you, Dan, for doing this. Let's go. So that we can have a full conversation about it. And also learn a little bit more about these quarterbacks that we love. Dan, enjoy the rest of your summer day here. We can't wait till it's all day. Dan Orlovsky

on ESPN. September 2nd, man. That's so cool, dude. You saw he caught a fish the other day. Wow. Dude, I was excited about that. You should be. I'm a terrible fisherman as well.

I don't like it, dude. I don't get it. I don't understand it. I don't know why people like it. There's no way you could have any form of ADD and enjoy fishing. Agreed. I think we're seeing the same picture, but people fish or they golf.

It's similar. There's people that are very good at fishing. Mr. Van Dam. Kevin Van Dam, the greatest fisherman, the greatest angler of all time. He just retired. Let me ask you a question. I'm not trying to be rude here, but

how is someone good at fishing well if there's a fish in the fucking water kevin van dam's pulling that son of a bitch out that is what makes it like hey here's the bait throw it in the water and you got different kind of reels you got different kind of bait but you got different kind of fish water sound like a fool and then you got to read, obviously, where there's some shit in the water for these fish to hide under. You got to scout, Dan.

You can't just show up at the water and say, I can't see through this. Where are they? It's not a luck game. You think Kevin Van Dam became a great small time? It's a little bit of right place, right time. You could certainly hang a worm over a fish's mouth by the dock. You could certainly do that.

But what some of these anglers, these fishermen do, I happen to live on a lake, watching these fuckers work. Oh, yeah. It is. I mean, you're talking about making that thing dance in a walk. I mean, you're talking about real and then knowing exactly where it's at. What type of fish am I pulling? Well, I'm pulling this fish, so I need this particular bait with this particular hook with this much uh weight and i need to go to this particular type of spot it's like they're just like scientists it's like their

golf though yeah i know i get all that i just i do everyone like they'll say to me because i'll go to the fishing store down here fishermen's world and i'll be like i don't know what i'm doing i just want to throw something in the water. And they'll be like, here, take this weight, take this bait, launch it in, and you'll catch stuff. And I'll go, oh, for the day. But it's the most expensive stuff. Why do I take this? This is no your rook

out there. Yeah, they can sense you. The fish know where you are better than you know where they are, and that's going to be a problem for you. But you know where we know you are starting September 2nd? On television. television telling us what we need to know we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen avid angler dan rolovsky i suck at fishing as well so catching fish catching fish is fun fishing and not catching fish sucks for everybody yes it's like golfing and sucking fun. Fishing and not catching fish sucks for everybody.

It's like golfing and sucking at golf. Bingo. And I do believe that is the two different, because there's like those tailgate things that are like, rather be golfing and then rather be fishing. It's like depending upon which way you go. Tim McAfee, pretty solid angler. Pretty solid angler. I see that. He likes to test himself, though.

We need the waders. We're walking the creek. Sure. We're finding the spots. Putting on the boots and all. We're doing the whole song and dance. You know what I mean? We're not wearing sunscreen.

True angler. We're getting fourth-degree burns out there. That's bull. And we're catching a good amount of fish, but are we taking any of them home? Nah. We're just going to put them right back in there. Catch and release, baby. Yeah.

That's for the love of the game. Yep. You know who's the best angler in town, I think? Who's that? Dwayne Johnson. The Rock? Oh, yeah. I've seen him. He learned how to fish with Andre the Giant. I saw that in Young Rock. That's right.

That was a phenomenal thing. I believe we're going to be joined by ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, this evening Dwayne? The Contender Series We're joined by, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, this evening, the contender series for Dana White's in the UFC, eighth season already. We're talking about having fights every single weekend. Now we have a show that's going into its eighth season in the contender series. You're talking about producing a living for people that do fighting in a massive way.

Jobs, purses, opportunity in such a massive fashion in so many different forms. You're talking about a pretty signed businessman, maybe one of the greatest American businessmen to ever exist. And also one of the most unfiltered, which I think we all absolutely love. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. Yeah, Dana! What's up, boys? How are you doing, man? You look fantastic.

Congrats on eight seasons of this Contender Series kicking off tonight. That's not easy at all. Hell yeah. That's not easy at all. It's very easy if you watch this show. I love this show. When we wind down into the end of summer and we start getting into Contender Series,

every Tuesday i get excited i can't and the beautiful thing is it's right across the street at our arena here at the apex so you know some of the best unsigned fighters they come in and i don't even obviously you're there because the matchmakers feel you should be i already know you're good i already know you're good i don't look at your record I don't know who you train with. I don't care about any of that stuff. Right here, right now, what do you got? Show me what you have.

And these kids go at it. It is the best show on television, I'm telling you, right now. If you've never seen the Contender Series, you have to check it out. And you guys, if you're ever in Vegas, you have to see this thing live at the Apex. It's incredible. I hope we do 800 seasons of The Contender. Okay, okay. I hope you do as well.

And it seems like with everything you do, there's going to be massive success. I couldn't even fathom. Dreams coming true, obviously, on The Contender Series. That's a big piece of this entire thing? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you look at Sean O'Malley came off The Contender Series. I mean, and the list goes on and on. You know, now we have world champions that have come off this show.

So, yeah, it is absolutely, if you are talented enough and if you have what it takes tonight at 4 o'clock, you know, West Coast time, you're going to make it in the UFC and you could possibly be a world champion someday. Dana, so many fights now, so many events, so much opportunity seemingly for everybody. Why the fuck are we fighting at 5.15am local time? Dana, that was one of the most insane things I've ever seen. I was watching it

live and I was on some milligrams, potentially 50 to 70, maybe 80 of them. And obviously anytime you have a European crowd for anything, they're going to be awesome. And then it like snapped. I'm like, damn, this is live over there. I started doing the math and where they were. and obviously everybody had juice and the energy was insane was that you obviously knew that was going to happen has that happened before i don't remember if you've done

a fight like that before local time that late and what do you think going forward with that type yeah we've been doing that for years the problem is when you go global you know you're you're in other time zones but we always try to stay on American time zone, but sometimes we're not. We got early fights. We got late fights. We got fights in the middle afternoon. It gets all mixed up depending on where we're going. We're cruising around here soon. We're going to Perth. This week, we're going to Perth, Australia. We got Paris, France coming up. We're going to Abu Dhabi in October,

Edmonton, Canada, Macau, China. We're traveling around the end of this year. Hey, congratulations on the success. Obviously, everybody knows the story of UFC whenever it was purchased. Couldn't even get licensed to run fights in any of the states, pretty much, let alone get on TV. It's barbaric, yada, yada, yada. Now you're doing

full global expansion and providing opportunity for a lot of people. You're doing business with these people all around the world. Do you have to, obviously we've seen you travel to all these and you're very hands-on in this. How is it doing business with all those different types of human beings, you know, and cultures and everything like that that how do you manage it and how does it go how does it normally work for you it's interesting obviously it's different depending on where you go but it's but it's always listen i've had a long amazing relationship with abu dhabi uh we just uh did our first fight in saudi arabia um you know australia when when we first went to australia there was one guy in the whole country i think or two guys two guys maybe that were involved in mixed martial arts.

And look at how that's exploded. You have world champions and multiple people in the top 15 and different weight classes. It's been fun. But the most fun is when you go and experience the different types of fans around the world. You know, like when we were in, we just went back to Manchester, England, which is always unbelievable, you know, and that's the one you were talking. We were in there until like 4 or 5 in the morning in the arena. And the whole place, as soon as the show starts, starts singing Sweet Caroline,

and they got all these chants, you know, like these soccer chants that they sing. And, you know, so experiencing different types of fans all over the world is the most fun for me. It's enjoyable as a viewer as well. Just so, it's part of the whole experience. Your live events are fucking awesome. I can't wait to see the French crowd for WWE was bananas. I couldn't even fathom what they're going to be like for that, especially coming off of the Olympics.

It's the same with UFC. The French crowd is incredible for UFCfc too that's all yeah god you're right dana how's uh how's the progress on uh the the big show that's coming to the sphere i know you have multiple people like that's their full-time gig working on that and secondly how was your uh your time on your yacht on the yacht that i guess i don't know if you owned you rented whatever you did but the videos of you chopper on and off that thing were pretty amazing. Well, thank you. Yeah. Trust me, it's a charter. And it was awesome. We're close.

You're close, though. We know you're close to buying that fucker. Yeah, yeah. I never cared about Italy or going to Italy or whatever. Then I went to Italy. It is the great and the Amalfi Coast. It's like the greatest place on Earth. You go down through Sardinia, Sicily, down into Capri.

I'm telling you guys right now you you you got some yacht money uh get out there next summer and check it out buddy um no no no but the sphere the sphere has been an absolute beast my production team is 24 7 on this thing we had meetings uh you know uh half the day yesterday for me on the sphere but we're getting down to crunch time here and I'm excited to get in there and get it done. I think we're all pretty pumped to see how you go about utilizing the sphere. And you said this is a one and done situation. I'm investing a shit ton in this. We are going to make it awesome. And then we are moving on and setting a precedent on what could be at this entire place. Still the same mindset. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

what could be at this entire place. Still the same mindset, yeah? Yeah, yeah. It's, it's, this is, like I said, this is, I love the Mexican culture and the Mexican people and, you know, how they're all hard workers, how they support each other. You know, Mexican people will go out and work hard all week, then spend most of their paycheck to support their families and other Mexicans, whether they're performers or fighters or competing in something. And this is basically, like I said, a love letter to the Mexican people and their culture.

And the challenge of this thing is, we're the first of all, we're the first sporting event inside the sphere. And we're the first ones that are actually going to, you know, you're going to be able to watch live from the sphere and we're the first ones that are actually gonna you know uh you're gonna be able to watch live from the sphere so there's a lot of different challenges as far as production goes but what we really want to do is the people that are watching at home on pay-per-view we want to give you that experience like you're there inside the sphere and you get to you know um so yeah this this is a production beast that we're attempting to do on september 14th so we were trying to um not produce your show but certainly think of ideas if we were you at the sphere and our big hang-up was what are we putting on the sphere are you putting the fight on the sphere and

then if you're in there is that too much like how you utilizing that sphere you could put different backdrops in there i mean the the amount of shit you'll be able to use, because the sphere is the show. You and I, we have talked about this before. We're excited to see what you put behind the fights and how you set it all up. Are those decisions, I assume, already made or no? If those decisions weren't made, we'd be in big trouble right now. What we've done, really what we're going to do on september 14th takes over a year to do we're doing it in four months um i mean just to just uh

yeah so when the show starts we're going to have the prelims and then we're going to tell throughout the rest of the night the history of combat in mexico from the beginning of combat in Mexico from the beginning of time and into the future. So the first fight of the night will start at the beginning of time. The main event will be the future of Mexico. That's the first time I've ever talked about this. Yeah, and that's what you meant by love letter.

And that's why whenever it was announced how many fights there were, some people were like, there's only this amount of fights. Well, that's because we're telling a story. And then I assume the fights are going to match just oh yeah you feel good about it look at that fucking shit eating grid you feel good yeah it's it listen we we have to execute yeah but this thing is going to be

if you if you are even this much mexican you are going to love this event on Mexican Independence Day. It's fair. I guarantee you it's so badass. I took 23 of me. I don't think I have any Mexican Emmy, but I cannot wait to learn the story. D-Bot's got a question for you. Dana? Yeah, where can we watch Contender tonight?

And then our second question is, I know you put on amazing live events all over the world. What's been the best atmosphere for a fight you've put on so far um god the best atmosphere that's tough um there's been so many i mean so many um our first time that we got into uh canada and went to toronto was amazing uh the msg our first time at the O2 in London. There's just been so many monumental events. And then the Contender Series is on ESPN Plus tonight.

It starts at 7 o'clock on the East Coast, 4 o'clock here on the West Coast. Alright, we can't wait to watch. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. There's one last question, but we've got a hard out in a minute, so the timing is kind of weird. Nah, fuck it.

Hey, will you come? Fire away. I'll answer quick. What do you got? Okay, Connor. Yeah, Dan, and Joe Rogan, you just said always kind of hit you up about the John Jones-Pereira fight. Is that going to happen or what? No. Okay. See, that was easy. That was quick. Boom. Have you seen the internet reaction to the obviously pound-for-pound conversation in you and Jon Jones?

And, once again, as a friend of the Jones family, I agree with everything you're saying. He is. Yeah, yeah. Well, everybody on the internet is stupid. Anybody who thinks Jon Jones is the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world should never be discussing fighting ever. Boom. Period. End fighting ever. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, president of the UFC international businessman, American success story. Badass Dana. Why? Thank you, brother. I'll answer it quick. No, don't talk about it. You're stupid. See ya. All right. Thanks, Dana.

We continue on YouTube youtube espn plus and tiktok for now i think that's gonna change all right we'll see you in about that tomorrow nailed it boom nailed it forgot what day it was it's tuesday long night it was monday night raws in texas bro yeah when did you get back uh like 2 30 245 anyway mcdaniel's this morning mcdaniel this morning yeah yeah so that was an aggressive He was great by the way He was great That was an aggressive schedule I was still

Yes He is himself all the time And I don't like Yeah What are you guys doing? Hey knock it off I didn't see something I don't like what this AI is doing

Now you know YouTube commenters I haven't read them in years But I know it's a very supportive group for us. And I'm very, very thankful for everybody in there. Every once in a while, I'll get tweets from people that are in the YouTube comments. And they're like, hey, we're part of the comments section. And I'm always very grateful. We meet people out of live shows.

Like, I appreciate how active people are during the program. It is very, very kind of them. I try to stay out of there, though, strictly because everything you hear about YouTube comments is like you shouldn't read those if you're the person that are potentially on camera and everything like that so now they got ai that is uh given a review of youtube commenters i mean that is a fascinating thing because there's some talented people uh on their keyboards in there and when mcdaniel comes on and he has the delivery that he has i mean the ai was cooking mcdaniel it is not from us this is uh viewers are discussing the odd and incoherent speech of the speaker and they're speculating on his level

of marijuana use they are also commenting on the speaker's rambling and lack of clarity and how it is making them feel these are youtube commenters thoughts and the ai is like hey you want to hear what these people are saying don't read them here this is what they're saying and how it is making them feel i love that that last line yeah it's like ai jesus christ you know should we be just burying it i don't if you listen what he's saying there's a lot of clarity exactly i'm going to listening to it does take a little bit of more emphasis on the listening part of it all yeah but boy he is one of one he is one of one aj yeah you guys are right though you said like yeah you can you're only cool for so long if you don't win you're not cool anymore so it's they go hand in hand 100 yeah you you go from

cool to lame quick whenever success is nowhere to be found like hey that's cool that's cool it's kind of lame isn't it that's like russell wilson you know yeah everything russell wilson was doing was good good good cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool then they stopped winning it's like it kind of like this i don't like this guy. That's what they said. I'm not saying me. I'm just telling you what the AI would say about the Internet's reaction to everything that happened to Russell Wilson. That's the way it goes.

I like that McDaniel knows that. I appreciate the fact that he knows that, AJ. He seems to have a high level of self-awareness, for sure. Yeah, and does not seem like a lack of fucks. Yeah, and consistent. Yeah, because he's always him. Yeah, we appreciate him for something, Bob. Oh, yeah, I love him.

That was a long conversation in the middle of training camp. Daniel Lawson came through and told us, everybody's got to make a list. Yep, that was cool. I want to get Geno in there. So, Caleb. Yep. But you can use certain players for certain things,

but not others if they didn't play that much. Yeah, Aaron didn't throw a 70-yard ball, but we did put him in the arm strength category just because we know it's in there. I mean. Ball placement, though. We're not talking accuracy. We're talking ball placement. Okay, so you're saying that Aaron doesn't know where to put the ball.

Yeah, not throwing it to your guy. Throwing it away from the defense. Yeah, so Aaron's accurate, but he just doesn't know exactly where he's supposed to your guy. Throwing it away from the defense. Aaron's accurate, but he just doesn't know exactly where he's supposed to put it. Right. He doesn't have a full command of the offense. Aaron couldn't throw a back shoulder. He wouldn't know how to do that. He created it.

Flacco, not in arm strength. You being so pissed about Flacco being in there was awesome. He came into the game against the Rams last year. First game. We talked about this on Monday. I still remember it. He threw a ball 80 yards just to show everybody. Where were we at?

We were in New York. Yeah, we might have been at it. We were watching in a lobby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because literally as soon as I get there, Flacco just got in game. Bingo. And it's his first play. And I'm like, what's going on?

What did I miss? Flacco's in the game. It's like fucking perfect timing. Literally just got here. And it was his first pass attempt. It was like a Flacco check. And he out everybody on the field by about 20 yards and it was like that was just to let everybody know what's possible through the upgrades hey Stefanski wants you to know what you're dealing with here boys on the team wants you to know we're dealing with and fans I don't

know why nobody was signing me yes well we still have it it's like okay flacco football is still I'm happy he's on the Colts, man. And he had Anthony Richardson on a few of those. And it's like, okay, I think he saw those first four games last year as like a lot of electricity. I hope that's the case. I do. I hope we flip that switch.

Definitely. I hope we get it all back out there. You got to. It's only the second year. Obviously, you got banged up. But you can only ride potential for so long and looking good getting off the bus. I want to see him put it out there down after down, week after week. We got Shane calling the shot, so I am excited about that.

We got a good crew around him. But we got to see it. We got to see it. Great crew around him. Great crew around him. I mean, plus, he's got two, three years before you really know. So even if it is slow at the gate, it's like you still got next year and then you still got the year after.

What's this guy? What's this guy? What are you yapping? It's a three-year plan in the first year kind of wash because he only played four games, so this is kind of his rookie year. And then next year is like, all right, let's take a step. And then third year is like prove it. I do fear nobody is going to judge him as a rookie,

even though he certainly is this particular season. And if he gets any injury, that's certainly possible to anybody. Bang, all of a sudden that gets labeled in there. He's fighting against a lot of potential narratives that could grow. But, boy, his opportunity with Shane Steichen calling these plays, we could do it. I don't love that Houston's just gotten better at everything. Even their fucking mascots got better.

Have you seen this? Oh, yeah. Mascots got more pizzazz, more personality than ever before. What'd they do? What'd they do to them? Mascots had a little bit of a beef, I think, with a D lineman or offensive lineman. He's all revved up. Yeah, and the pizzazz this Texans Toro has been showing to me on the internet is...

He's rocked up? Yeah, he is. Yeah, Toro's rocked up. It's like a gritty level. He's pretty sweet. He ain't fucking blue, though. Huh? Blue always nice.

He's not cream pie and foxy. Blue's a bitch, dog. Did Blue wear a guardian cap? Whoa! Don't you ever say that. I just did. Don't say that. Air Blue?

You're just talking about Air Blue? I'm talking about either of them. Air Blue's a dog. Don't mess with Air Blue. No, actual Blue's a dog, too. No, actual Blue's all gimmicks. What are you talking about? No real fighting.

What's the difference? He throws a football from the top deck into a garbage can every single week. No, he's carrying a pie with him at all times. I mean, look, I'm a Freddy Fever guy through and through, okay, when it comes to mascots in this town. Freddy Fever is certainly an interesting development this year. Whenever we saw, I had eyes on that for the first time. Yeah.

Don't know what exactly it is, but got a lot of juice. Okay. Got a lot of juice. Blue is top three mascot in the NFL every single year. Texans tour, exactly it is, but got a lot of juice. Blue is top three mascot in the NFL every single year. Texans tour, though, is hot at the heels. But let's not even get started with Jackson Duffill.

He is Duff Problem. His cheeks are out. He's got his cheeks out on primetime. As he's flying in from the top of the stadium, yeah, that guy is head and shoulders above everybody else, I feel like. Amen. Torso and speedo.

Helicopter and that thing. Watch him helicopter that thing around a few times. He swings it left and right. What are you talking about? His body, yeah. Football? His meat. His meat.

Back and forth. You know what I'm saying? It's a classic mascot move. Patriots, Musketeers. I think I'm doing that this year. You knew what I was talking about. This show is the worst. Look at this guy.

Yeah, I mean, he's not scared to go cheeks out. You know, it's Florida taught. Yeah. He says, I'm about sick of humidity. You guys put that whole song and dance on. I'm going speedo like a DJ with the headpiece. I love it. Aggressive.

Blue is a weapon, though. Blue's cream pie. Oh, yeah. Are we out on the guy in Minnesota? Victor? I think they're out on him. I was going to say, I think the Vic Weedon may have gotten shitcanned. Oh, no.

Yeah, I believe so. What do you mean? I think he landed on his feet, though. Okay. Well, he was a talent. He was. His social media was a talent. Good at memes. It was the death of him. Well, was he good at memes or was he not?

What's this judgy-wudgy time? Okay. All of a sudden, buying into the new role. I think you saw Victor not too long ago, actually. Who? Us. No, I didn't see Victor. I don't know who you're talking about. I mean, the best mascot is that BYU Cougar. Absolutely.

Whoever that person is is a... Most athletic, for sure. For sure. What do we... I don't think I remember. Oh, the push-up. Yeah, yeah. All the crazy shit.

Backflips, everything. What about the gorilla? The Phoenix Sun, though. The Sun. Backflips, everything. What about the gorilla? The Phoenix Sun, though. The Phoenix gorilla is certainly talented. I think we're just staying in the football world, but if we want to go to all, Benny the Bull. Yeah.

He's up there. Boomer for the Pacers. Herky. Herky's a fucking dog. Always has been. Herky the Honky. Who's that? Fucking Iowa. Herky. He's a fucking. Herky the Honkeye Who's that Fucking Iowa mascot Herky

He's a fucking Herky the Honky No Well Listen Whoa I didn't say that But that's Herky right there

Herky the Hawkeye Yeah I mean it's a safe assumption I thought you said Herky the Like I literally I'm like Okay so there's just a white guy I don't know anyone

That calls him Herky the Honky He's a Herky Cause he's a Hawkeye He's a Hawkeye That should be the new one, though. How about that fucking Purdue drum they got? That drum mascot. Dude, sick. No one said Steely McBeam.

Who's that? Steely McBeam got added real late to the mascot game, and I'll tell you what, the first couple iterations were not beloved. I mean, Gritty. Gritty really came in and took over all the headlines. Gritty does it. Who's that one, the hockey one one that slides down the thing over in... Oh, yeah.

It's Canada, isn't it? The Calgary, right? Yeah. The Calgary Flame. Yeah. The Calgary one. I don't think it's the Calgary Flame. Yeah, I believe it was Harvey the Hound.

Harvey the Hound. Played dead on the glass during a game. Nuke. Slid down a thing, hit his head off glass, played dead on the glass. Yep. In the middle during a game. Nuke. Slid down a thing, hit his head off glass, played dead on the glass. Played dead, yep. In the middle of a game. Yeah. Igloo, obviously, with the penguins.

What about the, what is it, Kenny the Coyote from Kennywood? Now we're talking. He's a kangaroo. Okay, obviously. And that's the game. Very clear. That's the game. That's the game.

Did we do all of this to get to this, potentially? Do we have any updates on if anybody would like to contribute to purchasing Kenny Wood and Sandcastle to become our permanent studios? I'll contribute. Thank you so much. I got an empty Mountain Dew diet can, and that's five cents. Okay, depending on where you take it, which trash. Ten cents in Michigan.

Okay, I'll drive up to Michigan. Now we're talking. You know, metal. People make a living out of it, but you get it. Well, something. But it's not really a. Yeah. Goodbye.

Let's talk about some sports here. The Bengals have announced a new uniform option. All right. I mean, there is one thing that we got to talk about. What's that? And it is the orb over Saudi Arabia. Listen, me and Foxy saw it. You guys, this is years ago,

so if you're new to the show, you will not have any idea what we're talking about. My first time ever being on Monday Night Raw was the same day that I filmed a Peyton's Places and also had a show. So this Monday was show Peyton's Places, my first ever Monday Night Raw in Chicago during my run with Austin Theory. That's piece of trash. Piece of trash. Me and Foxy flying back and there's just an orange orb that is just literally sitting outside the plane. Okay? Very bright. Just obviously staring at us in our fucking atmosphere.

Right. So me and Foxy all jacked off. There it is. Okay, we're in the middle of this whole thing. So we even record it. We talk about it. Bang, we come. We're so excited to tell everybody.

You go, that's the fucking moon. You take this. It's like a 34-years-old. I don't know what a fucking moon looks like okay i've never seen it well now this is the new thing it is everywhere this orb has been seen by everything we were a part of it should have had the plane turned directly into that thing to see what it was all about maybe we could be ahead of our time boom there's another one it's in the atmosphere you guys say like it's that man it's a star it's in the star link yeah it's starlink right okay

It's a star. It's in the funnel. Yeah, it's Starlink, right? Okay. Elon was always a part of something. Well, especially last night. But maybe he was up there flowing through the portal. So Elon just knows what all the other planets do and wants to do it here? Yep.

Is that what it is? Yep. Okay. I like the future theory. Yeah, just let's go into their thing. Let's go see what's happening. Tell the passengers, hey, we're going to have to take a hard right and check out what this portal is, guys.

Yeah, I'm fascinated by it all. Are we going to be alive for the time where we really get the answer? Oh, yeah. So it feels like it. It really does feel like it every time I see something. But then there's still people out there that have no belief at all in it. And it's like I don't get upset. I just get so confused.

I'm like really you just think and that's because william shatner went up there yeah well it comes back he goes don't it's just us oh my fucking god and then he hosts a show i think called like uh unanswered or something on netflix that talks about all these things yeah yeah so then he's like considered one of the people that speaks about and these things. So then he's considered one of the people that speaks about it, and then he comes out and is like, everything I thought was real. Cancel the show. Cancel the show. There's nothing fucking out there. There's fucking no conspiracies.

It is the most lonely place imaginable. And we got two astronauts just floating around up there right now. Yeah, is that real? So they're stuck up there? Is that true? It's certainly real. Yeah, but they can take FaceTimes, I heard. They got service? They do a cameo or what? I don't know if they're trying to earn money i don't i don't know i think this is where they could reach their family i think they're able to still talk to their family it was supposed

to be eight days or ten days or something like that now they're staring down like a six month stay oh my god and uh they're they're don't work so they gotta figure out how to fix the burr because if they come into the atmosphere at the wrong uh angle you know because the burbers don't work. So they've got to figure out how to fix the burr-burr-burr because if they come into the atmosphere at the wrong angle, you know, because the burr-burr-burrs don't work, then I guess it would just... Yeah, they would be vaporized and turned into goo. So now they're trying to figure out how to fix the

burr-burr-burrs so they can... thrusters so they can get in properly back into Earth, I guess. But the issue is it's a Boeing spacecraft and they can't ask SpaceX for help because well that would just be embarrassing yeah and there was that rumor going i don't know if that ended up being true or not if i i believe it is i don't know if elon could just fucking send a elon can actually hop on the outside of one of his yeah yeah with uh with one of those hats yep

ride that thing up there and be like what do you need and then carry it grab it and bring it back down with him that's what we were reading. Alleged. That is being alleged that SpaceX could potentially do that. And then for some reason there's not. And maybe it'll end up being that at some point. But they were getting, I saw a NASA expert, not the astronaut, but like a NASA expert on the Today Show. Because Hoda and Savannah were asking about, you know, these people that have been in space. It was supposed to be a three-hour tour, that whole thing.

And they were like, they understand that this is possible. They are very comfortable. They are very confident. I'm like, man, I would not be. How much food do they have up there? Food. They're talking about, like, hygiene, obviously, because they're. Oh, man.

The whole. You're going to stink up there. And they're just in a. They're just in a... Yeah. Just staring. And you don't know when you're coming back either. That's the thing.

There's nothing scheduled, right? And what if they hate each other? Yeah, can't, I guess. That's probably a big word of astronaut. Hopefully they worked that out before they went. Yeah. But still, you never know. You never know, though.

They might have been telling each other, like, all right, I can like this person for eight days. We can do two weeks if we have to. You know, there's a chance it's longer. Okay, We can do two weeks if we have to. You know, there's a chance it's longer. Okay, I can do three weeks if we have to. No big deal. Anybody, I can do that. What if you had to do eight months?

Can we? No. Hey, we hope you come back. We don't know if you're watching. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. It's NTC up there.

And Elon. He'll figure it out. That's not a bad idea. One jet pack. Carry each other. They won't even need a rocket. That shit was crazy on the internet last night.

You know, the way things are kind of going these days for political campaigns. We're wildly. There's a lot going on, man. Mm-hmm. And we're just in the middle of it

doing a little football. That's right. Football's back. And alien every once in a while because me and Foxy saw one and everybody made fun of us. Yep. So, We are classic

People that just won't be believed Foxy Here's our video Look that guy is zero milligrams Right there Same exact thing It's literally the same thing that the Saudi Arabian pilots came out and said We don't know what that is

It looks like we were closer actually You guys were victims of the balloon saga no we heard that a lot no no no i'm not saying that i'm saying because that was going on at the time it was like oh there's probably a chinese weather yeah all right yeah i believe in the ore brother i mean that's why people don't that's why people don't tell their stories. I'm an orb of truth. This is why people don't tell their stories. Because I never believed they'd get mocked. You can have it on camera.

You can have it on video evidence. We need some clarity. We need someone to land and step off that ship. We need to see something. We need some more evidence. We need to go shake their hans. What if they don't want to shake our hans? What if they don't have hans?

Then that's okay. If we need a headbutt, we'll headbutt. We'll put the Guardian caps on first. Oh, yeah. For sure. Just like you. Just like A.J. Hawk did back in the day that led to this modern-day football. I'm so happy that we found that footage.

This is the first time a Guardian cap was used in an actual game. Thank you to A.J. Hawk being a trailblazer of football. Thank you, A.J. Pioneer. Feels good. Yeah, I'm on the right side of history, aren't I,'t i with that always are you don't sound like you believe that is that what you think no i don't know because i still like to i'm torn because i like the dudes there's guys wearing them that i respect and i like a lot so i'm like all right doesn't sound like it we can respectively

disagree agree to disagree i guess amen there you go amen brother we need more you're helping your brain you're opening your brain i can't fault you go. Amen. If you're helping your brain, I can't fault you for it. If you think it's helping your brain, I cannot fault you. You said there's a placebo? You don't think there's actually a placebo? No, no, no. They're saying 10% to 15%. I don't know.

At least. I just don't know. It just feels so big. There's more surface area out there. It's an extra inch. An inch, 0.8 pounds. How about you guys? Okay.

Have any of you guys, did you guys used to, like, box each other in your basement when you were young? Like, we had boxing gloves, and we would kill each other. And when we would wear headgear, it hurt way worse than without headgear. It rattles your brain. And that's what I feel about Guardian caps almost. And I've never hit anyone with one, so I don't know them. That was 25 years ago, science. I assume technology is a little bit different.

That's why they have them broken up into pieces because those big helmets that used to put on it would almost spread out the punch throughout the entirety of the area it's like instead of just taking one you're taking like 10 punches at the same time they have those little little pillows yep they're little pillows they look cool when does the first helmet company create the guardian helmet and when does it get approved by the NFL and when does that become a new billion dollar business

the approval it sounds like they may next off season yeah didn't Dr. Allen still say there's 12 new models of helmets in the NFL this year maybe I remember the number being 5 but there might have been a 12 in there. Yeah, so there's five helmets that are just as safe or position specific that are just as safe as the Guardian, so you don't have to wear a Guardian cap.

Okay, so they have five Guardian cap helmets for position specific players already. Which is what Andrew Thomas had on when he gave Terry and Arnold that concussion. Which is why he didn't have to have the guardian cap on, which protects the other person as much as it protects you. Correct. Because remember, if we have three guardian caps running into each other, that's anywhere from 30 to 45% less damage. Because it's 10 to 15

per. So you take away 45% damage. Okay, now we're doing some math here. Happened three plays in a row. That's, what, 120%. Players wearing these new helmets are not required to wear a guardian cap in practices. The specific helmets are the Rydell, Rydell, Rydell.

Okay, Rydell got ahead of the game. Thank God. Rydell said, hey, we know helmets better than anybody. We can't let some outside party take our game from us. Let's start getting into this. O-line, D-line, obviously probably more in the front, in the side there. QB, massive in the back as if it's a pillow. And then the punter one that's not shown is obviously a baseball hit.

Yep. So I'm happy they decided to do that. Correct. Yeah, I'm happy they decided to do that. Kickers will have to make more tackles. Joey Sly, actually, currently in a competition up in New England. He's a properly jocked lad. Yeah.

Probably jocked. Always has been. Absolute meathead dog. Okay? Kicks the shit out of the football. Has been on a lot of lad. Yeah. Probably jocked. Always has been. Absolute meathead dog. Okay? Kicks the shit out of the football. Has been on a lot of teams. Has been around the NFL. He actually came out and talked about the kicking competition with a fantastic beard,

which is also Joey Sly Football. He said that he's a willing tackler. That's a big part, I assume, of some of the decisions being made. That's our new kickoff rule. So we got the guardian caps in there. We got the new kickoff rule. That's potentially implementing some things. We've got new football, but we've got the same sport

we love, AJ. Amen. Don't you think coaches legit have to take this into account? If you have a kicking competition and they're head-to-head or they're pretty close, you're definitely going to go with the guy that can make more tackles, don't you think? You're always going to take the veteran who's made more kicks over anybody else. Always.

That is just the end-all, be-all, cover-your-ass decision. If we pick the guy who's made more kicks over anybody else always that is just the end all be all cover your ass decision okay because if we pick the guy who's made kicks and has been with us over anybody else if it's close if they miss at least we can say he's been good for us and then we move on but if they're tied and they haven't done anything like Ryland did not have a great year last year Joey Sly has been around so if they are tied and equal then you start going into those extra things can this guy punt if we have to have him punt? Can he kick off better? Okay, and can he lay the fucking wood? Joey Sly can.

Yes, he can. Well, and for the tackling, for the kickers, like all those clips that we showed yesterday of the kickoff and guys breaking away, like isn't it going to be harder no matter what for guys to get, you know, actually to the house because they're not sprinting down and it's probably easier to turn and run back? Seems like there is going to be like a shell coverage for some of these kickoff games. Where instead of like, for instance, with a lot of the tackles that I had to make, you break through, it's like, here we go. You got two safeties, but if a safety gets caught up in there, all of a sudden it's one line of defense.

I think what we're going to see is you're going to see a little bit bigger guys, maybe linebackers kind of hold back a little bit. There might be like three different layers before they get through, but there were certainly opportunities for kickers to make tackles this weekend, so I assume it will continue. In the XFL's stats, what did they say, like 30% or 25% of the time the kicker was involved in the tackle or whatever it is? Will the NFL remain the same?

We don't know. But I do think kickers are going to have to throw a shoulder every once in a while on the sideline, which I think would be good. Having a kicker on call, like backups or guys you had in camp, that's going to be important because now more kickers you would assume get banged up, be out three, four, five weeks. What? Much.

Well, hopefully you have a kicker or a punter that can kick, right, D-Butt? Think about it. You have to count on, hey, our kicker might go down mid-game. He's got to make a tackle. If it's a huge game, we need someone that can at least make extra points for us. Which also leads to the conversation about the Aussies, who are obviously fantastic at what they do, but they've never really kicked a ball off the ground. A lot of them have not.

A lot of great punting. Aussie rules football is a lot of punting, punting, punting, punting, punting. So, like, soccer background of the American kickers and punters are normally there. So if you have to punt and you're a kicker, you can kind of sort it, you know, figure it out. If you had to, it's not going to be as good as a punter naturally, but you'll be able to. Some of the Aussies, not great kicking ball off ground. I assume they're working on it, getting even better. But all those little decisions have to be made for every single team.

And it's those little tiny decisions that could potentially end up two massive fuck-ups. And that's special teams football. Hell yeah. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We can't thank you enough for joining us on this glorious Football Tuesday.

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We got a preseason game, one preseason game on Thursday night. The Patriots, I believe, are being showcased again on Thursday night, and then the rest of them will be Saturday and Sunday this week. What's up? He says prime time TV. You knew he was going to say something there. That's kind of why I did it. I mean, prime time TV.

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