The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1184 - Michael Lombardi, Adam Schefter, Mark Kaboly, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Matthew Judon not asking for an extension for the Falcons but trying to earn a new contract with his play on the field, updates from the Brandon Aiyuk situation, and everything else happening around the NFL and college football as we are only 16 and 4 days away from each respectively. Joining the progrum to chat about everything happening around the NFL including rookie QB’s, which teams he think will surprise people, and everything else we need to know before the start of the season is 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM, host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle, and NY Times best-selling author, Michael Lombardi. Next, ESPN Senior NFL Insider Adam Schefter joins the show to chat about the Brandon Aiyuk situation, Justin Herbert returning to practice, the situations involving CeeDee Lamb and Ja’Marr Chase, and dusting Rich Eisen in the 40 yard dash at the Fanatics Fan Fest. Later, Steelers correspondent for the show, and WWE contributor, Mark Kaboly joins the show to give his updates on the Steelers including who he thinks will ultimately start at QB, his most recent conversation with OC Artie Smith, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Sports Tuesday, August 20th, 2024, this program starts now. Football is the greatest, and we're lucky to be chit-chatting about it every single day, all the way until that Super Bowl kicks off in February. From now till then, we have actual football to chit-chat about. We have actual stories to chit-chat about. And today, we'll be talking with Paisano, Michael Lombardi in about 15 minutes, and also Adam Schefter in the second hour.

Now, Schefter has been, you know, saying the IUK situation's got to come to a head at some point, maybe this week. Whoa. Well, you have to say, I can't wait for that. There's a lot of stuff to catch up on. We can't wait to do it all. And, yeah, we're so incredibly lucky and thankful that you allow us to do this. I had a chance to be in South Florida last night, sunrise,

the home of the Florida Panthers, the Stanley Cup champions. And I'll tell you, the humidity down there when you land, it does. Wow, sticks to you, huh? Feels like you're there. It wasn't too hot. It wasn't too hot. It wasn't too hot, but it did feel like Caribbean. They live a Caribbean life.

Oh, yeah? That is there every single day. It's a week. It's hard not to just be like, wow, I could see how people would definitely want to live down here. The crowd, 13,718 people on a Monday night. It's a historic,

I think it's a record-breaking attendance number for the WWE in South Florida. I think that's the most people ever. The crowd was amazing. I got a chance to say thank you to everybody. It was a blast last night, and Randy Orton wrestled. My God. And I ain't gotten to a fight at the end of it.

It was a perfect night, and I'm thankful that I got a chance to be a part of the WWE yet again, alongside that man, Michael Cole. Thank you to the WWE Universe. Good run. Thank you to the WWE Universe. Good run. Thank you to the WWE Universe. That talk today was here at Boston Corner in that Ty Schmidt sweet shirt, kind of trippy. Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

You know, just continuing with the green. I figure, you know, this is a good one, good vibes, and we're just one day closer to Ireland. Well, I'll tell you what, one day closer to Ireland is certainly a great thing. We're also in a day now where Patriots fans' reactions to stuff are certainly going to be a topic of conversation today. And I can't wait to ask Lombo about it, ask Shefty about it.

Sure. You know, because what Judon says immediately upon getting traded to the Atlanta Falcons certainly shines a light on what happened in New England. Definitely. And it certainly shines a light on what's going on New York with his own Redick and then it makes you know that Atlanta Falcons organization if you're hearing about this dinner that was a recruiting dinner for Justin Simmons to sign down there head coach star players GM down there recruiting Justin Simmons come down there Judon just being like, nah, I got to prove myself. It's like, what's going on in Atlanta?

Do they got the magic sauce right now? And if they were in on the IU conversation, which they can't because of Kirk Cousins' money and the money that they give in other places, but if they were in on the IU conversation, feels like Atlanta might have been able to get the deal done. They are hustling down there to get great. And Judon, obviously, a pillar piece for them, I think, probably going forward, even though he only

has one year left on his contract. And he says he's going to have to prove to the people in the building he's worthy of the next contract. What does that mean about what he thinks about New England? We'll talk about all throughout the day. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys, Tone Diggs back on the stage, fresh out of hammer, done, done, which you will certainly go back to every once in a while through the season. Great to see you up here. How are you doing, pal? Great to be here. I'm doing lovely.

It's so beautiful in the morning now. It's nice. We talked about it a couple weeks ago, the Christmas in the air. Feels like football season. Football's here. We're saying football at the beginning of the show. It's great. Yeah, it is fantastic.

I absolutely love it. And the stories around football, still fun, you know? Sure. Not necessarily, is this team going to go in the Super Bowl? No, no, no. Is this team looking better than ever? Or is this team going to be able to get out of a drought? Or this team's third down's really not good.

That's going to come back and bite them in the ass whenever football matters. Where we're at is just talking about stories that are seemingly going in a circle. That's going to come back and bite him in the ass whenever football matters. Where we're at is just talking about stories that are seemingly going in a circle. That's right. A lot of circle story-ing going on. Maybe even two hands a circle story-ing. A lot of circle jerking. Circle jerking around. I know what he's saying.

Yeah, yeah. People are getting jerked around. Yeah, yeah. All over the place. This Judon story, as a New England Patriot fan, Red Sleeves obviously no longer roaming the field for the Patriots. He was up there in the new era of Colts, still Belichick era, or sorry, of Patriots, still Belichick era of Patriots up there.

He has the situation with Coach Mayo, you know, on the field whenever he was holding out or sitting out of padded practices. He and Coach Mayo talk. Mayo sends him off the field. He's back the next day. Then, boom, he's traded to the Atlanta Falcons. Holy hell, the Atlanta Falcons are trading for Judon. Do they have a deal done? They do not have a deal done.

Wow. Falcons are idiots again. They pay a quarterback $180 million. Then they draft Michael Penix Jr. in the top 10. Who's your quarterback? You don't have one. What's your plan? You don't have one.

Then they trade for Judon without a deal getting done. Are you guys Hassan Redick again? Could be. What a bunch of doofuses. How many amateurs we got running NFL teams these days? We're all natural thoughts to have with the Atlanta Falcons after the Judon trade gets announced because it was a contract dispute. Then he gets traded to a team he's never done anything for.

So he can definitely hold out from there too if he can hold out from New England. Instead, Judon gives an answer and says, nah nah i'm willing to prove myself oh i want to prove myself yeah the atlanta falcons don't know me as a football player they know my history so i can't demand something i haven't worked for say he's just working to put his best foot forward at this point doesn't appear to be a sticking point then you listen to what bill belichick told us yesterday about what happened with Jude on last year whenever he had two years left on his contract Bill Belichick said I told Matthew Jude on his team who I have a lot of respect for that we're not doing anything unless you're practicing like we can't just have somebody come here and then not practice and then pay a person and you set a precedent when you know you

have a 15-man band coming in your office yeah with two years left on your deal holding out not getting things happening. You go to work. We'll figure out how to get a deal done. Now he's kind of taking the same mindset to Atlanta. Raheem Morris, obviously, beloved by a lot of people, would have to be to get all these things done that is currently taking place down there. Terry Fontenot has a vision for the team.

Kirk Cousins' birthday was yesterday. Yeah. Happy birthday, Kirk. We'll check out his white boy playlist for his birthday that they had to practice down there. But the Judon stuff coming out, I think, is great news for the way I view the Atlanta Falcons. You know, and obviously Judon as well. But the Atlanta Falcons are handling

this situation with another star, all-pro, pillar guy that could potentially be, just like Hassan Ruddick with the Jets. Could be all this stuff. But for one reason or another, Judon says, I still got to prove myself to these people. I've never been here. Hassan Reddick says I'm getting the fuck out of here because you're not paying me, even though

you've never seen me in a meeting before. Two vastly different outcomes, and shout out to the Falcons, I guess, for handling this much, much, much, much, much better. And as a Patriots fan, what does this make you feel like? I mean, I feel like this was kind of the story with him before he got traded. Like, you know, he did sit out, but then he came back and it felt as though, from his side at least, like he was kind of the story with him before he got traded. Like, you know, he did sit out, but then he came back,

and it felt as though from his side at least, like he was going to play for the Patriots if they did keep him just because if he, you know, demanded the trade or was asked to leave or anything like that, he would have just been traded without coming back. So it seemed as though he was already in the mindset like, all right, I'll play this year under my current deal deal hopefully i get an extension either during the season or after but then instead just got shipped out of town i feel like the precedent thing that you just mentioned is kind

of why the patriots ended up moving on from them just because first year gm first year head coach hey if we start doing this with guys on their last year their deal coming off a season where they played four games what does that say to everybody else on this team like oh hey if i just do the matthew judon thing then i'll get paid here and that isn't really something that you want whether it's two years left on your deal one year left on your deal but for the falcons i mean this is perfect for them uh you know judon is in a prove it type year not only because of his contract but because he missed 13 games last year. I, for one, still view the Falcons as the Jets of the NFC. Bill Belichick yesterday said, hey, these teams that have a lot of money out,

not money in, and he referenced the Saints, who we talked about for the last three off-seasons as doing salary cap gymnastics. Maybe even more. Yeah, possibly the last five. Since, you know, towards the end of the week. What they lost, like $170 million off the books somehow. Yeah.

Four-day period. Yeah, and then Taysom Hill got a four-year $160 million contract with the last three years voidable. Do you remember Travis Kelsey was on with us the day that deal happened? And we go, Trav, Taysom Hill just signed a four-year, $160 million deal. And Trav goes, that's news to me.

Tight end player just signed. Well, that had a quarterback option in it. If he was the starting quarterback, he would be able to get that. And then there was three voidable years on the end of it. So it was like the biggest salary cap gymnastic and salary cap Fugues. But yeah, you're right. For like five years, they've been

dealing with it. Where are they now? We shall see. I think you said Atlanta as well. He didn't bring up the Rams, who had kind of gone through there. Got a Super Bowl out of it. In their home stadium, which is certainly a roll of the dice. Had a draft pick this year for the first time. Forever. Forever, because remember, fuck them picks.

But the kick the can down the road thing became the move. And whenever you saw the Rams have success with it, it was hard for us. Us. Doofus is not to be like do that. Bucks too. With Brady. Yeah, bingo. And they win a Super Bowl. Salary cap doesn't matter. What are we even

doing? Everything's going up and to the right. Let's just continue to just feed it, kick it down the road. And then all of a sudden you see teams like, Hey, okay, we got to deal with this now. Bang, bang, boom, boom, boom. Russell Wilson got paid before he even stepped foot on the field as a Denver Bronco. A lot of money. Now they're eating $83 million over there. So that's obviously a downfall of it. The Rams not having anything to build for the future. If anybody retires, that is a downfall of it. The Bucs have had to deal with it post Tom Brady, but they were going to have to deal with anything post-Tom Brady. I think

Baker Mayfield is awesome, but they've been having to deal with it. The Saints had to. I mean, Sean Payton just on a Wednesday says, you know what, I'm actually and a new head coach comes in. He's the right guy, but we're at a deficit finance-wise and we've got to move on from basically legendary team that brought Super Bowl II Saints into new ones.

That's a tough spot. It is interesting how everybody's past mistakes with different regimes have potentially carried into new ones. Outlier, obviously Rams. Yeah, and that's why it feels like Falcons are all in this year, just because of these one-year deals and because of all the money that they've already spent. They also got their quarterback, or maybe two of them,

which they haven't had since Matt Ryan. In the last three seasons, I think they've only had like 80 sacks, which is the lowest in the NFL over those three seasons. They have the easiest strength of schedule based on last year's record due to the Falcons this year. So I think them going all in for the season and getting Justin Simmons is like, hey, we got our new coach. We got our quarterback.

We have a nice little schedule, and our division's not too hard. Like, we can start off this new regime on a nice high note. The NFC South, too, very gettable. They're the favorites in it. The Bucs, though, people just won't talk about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers potentially being awesome. I remember last year there was two different runs in which the Bucs were awesome.

They had that downtime in the middle of the season, which I think people want to hold over the Bucs because it's Baker Mayfield and people want to hold shit over Baker Mayfield's head anyways. But there was two different runs last year where the Bucs looked like some of the best, maybe the top five team in the league on multiple different occasions. You've talked about all the weapons they have.

Now, I know they lose people, but that MC South is certainly gettable. And the Falcons continue to make plays. And he got Jude on Bynum. And then Justin Simmons said this about a dinner, you know, because Justin Simmons was a free agent and he's all pro stud. He signs on with the Atlanta Falcons just last week, and he talked about a dinner in which they basically recruited him to come down there and buy into the vision.

Wonderful stuff happening in Atlanta all of a sudden. Chops is what sold it, honestly. Chops the restaurant. No, I'm joking. Yeah, so Grady, AJ, and Jesse were the players there. Obviously Coach Raw. Coach Raw. Yeah, Coach, and Jesse were the players there. Obviously Coach Raw. Coach Raw. Yeah, Coach Raw was there.

Terry was there. And so, man, it was just a great dinner. I'm familiar with Coach Raw and the defense that he runs. And so, you know, a lot of it was kind of talking X's and O's, just philosophy, vision, big things like that. And then really just getting a feel for the culture and the guys there. Obviously, you know, Jesse being acquired, you know, from Cincy and then Grady playing his career here.

AJ obviously being, you know, a cornerstone in the organization. So just getting a feel from those guys, like from the transition from their old head coach to Coach Rob. What's the feel? How's the culture? What do you guys like? What do you guys like? What do you guys dislike? You know, those types of questions.

And, man, it was a great dinner. And I know everyone saw that clip of Grady on Good Morning Football talking about, you know, the car. This is how they treat you in Atlanta. That did happen. So, I will admit that did happen. But, no, I'm super excited to be here. This is what we were waiting for, an opportunity like this,

and I can't wait for this thing to get rolling. Shout out to all the stenographers who have to make sure they get every single word in real time, can't just look at a video later and transcribe it, or have AI actually do it on your phone during a video. I appreciate the old school, we've got to type so loud that it's actually going to cover up the answer potentially because that's how diligent all the beat reporters are working, and we thank them for their service. Thank you, beaters. Speaking of, thank you to the beaters.

Kaboli will be joining us in the next hour. Hell yeah. Who's on the beat for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the building for the first time in like two weeks. First time back at practice, boots on the ground as a correspondent for our program. But if you think about the Atlanta Falcons, you hear the way Justin's talking about, they're having this full recruiting dinner. And I know this has happened in other places

and people have chatted about it. But them treating it like almost like an interview for a coaching job, but then also telling them, hey, we need you here. This is what we're looking for. Obviously, don't have to buy into a 10-year deal here. I think we can really get things right. And Coach Rahim Morris is beloved by everybody. When he came on our show, his energy was

infectious. So I assume that he is very open and excited to get in the room with some of the guys. Like, hey, let me know who you're targeting. Let's do a dinner. Let's sit down with them. We don't know if they're the right fit for us, but also let's let them know what we're about so they can feel it. The Atlanta Falcons, who have certainly

made some interesting decisions over the last 24 or 12 months by far yeah you know there's been a lot that has happened but that feels like they're doing things right and talking about the car and how everything goes it's like the little details wait a minute are the atlanta falcons starting to look at the tiny little details in this entire thing what are we seeing out of atlanta i'm feeling a lot of hope down there all of a sudden now granted we're about to have lombardi on in about a minute or five and he's going to certainly have Super Bowl winning Terry Fontenot conversation and everything

like that. But it's like these little things you hear, it's like this is what good programs do. This is what good organizations do. I would be pumped if I'm a Falcons fan to hear it from Simmons. Yeah, obviously the Pennix thing is going to kind of hang over them until it comes to head and eventually that might be one of the best decisions they've ever made but you could tell when we sat down with

Rahim Morris at the team meetings like this guy not only in terms of like x's and o's is he very well respected obviously with everything he did with the Rams former head coach but like he did have a very infectious personality and it's weird because i mean obviously we never played so you don't know but i feel like there is something to guys like judon and justin simmons where like this they have a chance to kind of put their own stamp on atlanta like new team new head coach like great city yeah exactly awesome city guys love playing their sweet stadium like there's a lot to like about atlanta and obviously when you have when you have a guy like raheem morris i feel like guys kind of i mean just in the 30 minutes we talked to him he's like wow this guy's incredible i'd run through a wall for him so you could see how vets in the league would kind of gravitate

towards him not only respecting what he can do on as a coach but just like you want to play for that guy every day joining us now is certainly a man who has had his questions about the way the atlanta falcons are operating and how could you not but also he's one of the closest friends of the greatest coach and GM of all time who was looking into that job and then things were said and then a lot took place. So he's coming from that perspective. But what he's here and I assume he has to have respect for because this is like, I don't want to say good, great leadership from the head coach and GM coming together to kind of put the team in their image ladies and gentlemen daily coach writer which is

an email newsletter live show host the Lombardi line GM host podcast or GM Shuffle um Ted talker yep author yep ladies and gentlemen pies on Michael Lombardi. Yeah! Hello! How are we doing today? We're getting closer. We're getting closer. You'll be in Ireland soon. You'll be drinking warm beer soon. No, no.

Remember, Lombard, it's not beer. It's coffee. Remember on air. It'll look like it's a Guinness. It'll be in a Guinness glass, a pint glass. But that's just coffee. That's not actual beer. And the smoke that kind of impermeates from this. You've got to play your inner Dean Martin where he was saying he was drinking apple juice, not bourbon.

I got it. Oh, good. No, we're good. Bingo. Ron White, same thing with the tequila. Yeah, all of this. That's not beer. It's CBD that's burning below the desk right now, and everything over there is coffee.

But, Lambeau we are excited that football is back and we were just talking about the Atlanta Falcons you alongside us alongside everybody has a lot of questions but when you hear Justin Simmons talk about that dinner and the recruitment and the pitch and the deal not being you know it's not a crazy deal for Justin Simmons and then Judon who literally everything happens with New England gets traded down there and he goes I gotta prove myself this team. I assume they had some similar meeting with Coach Ra and Terry Fontenot. It's like, feels like there's some things that they're doing at a very high level whenever it comes to running a program, running an organization. Do you agree with that? And what is your assessment on Judon saying, I got to prove it down here with the Hasan Reddick situation cooking in New York and also what just took place in New England? Well, I think Judon's a true pro. I think he's a great, great pro.

I think he loves football. I think that's been proven. And the fact that he's not pushing them to redo his deal at, what, six and a half million is pretty, I think it's remarkable for him and for the Falcons to give up a third round pick without a contract extension, you know, is also a little risky on their part. But he could become a free agent at the end of the year, and they could get a compensatory pick back for him. So I like that move. Look, the questions you started with with Michael Penix that I think, you know, is fair because Penix to me, and I heard Raheem talk about it, and I have great respect for Raheem, I really do.

He was a young head coach. I'm sure he learned a lot from Tampa experience. He learned a lot from the interim experience in Atlanta. But for me, not playing Penix when I'm watching Patrick Mahomes play, Brady talking about playing, I think these younger guys who are going to be backups, they're not going to get a lot of reps. I think they need to play a little bit, especially ones that haven't played any pro football. So that would be my real concern. How good can Atlanta be defensively?

Look, Ryan Nielsen, their defensive coordinator last year, was really good. They were fourth in the league on third down with no pass rush at all that really remarkable and they were the third best red zone in the league last year with no pass rush pretty remarkable and their best player calais campbell they let go to miami for nothing for three and a half million dollars which i didn't understand he had 19 and a half quarterback hits last year so i think this is a division pat that's got a lot of interesting teams in it, starting with the team that has won, Tampa Bay. Bill talked yesterday about how contract situations and salary cap gymnastics in that NFC South,

these are rattling off names, are certainly something that they're going to have to think about going forward. We saw the Saints the other night. What are the Saints going to be? That's a real question. What are the Saints going to be? Fair question. I mean, look, Derek Carr, the last four games of the year, he throws 14 touchdown passes, two interceptions. They average

24 points. The first four games, he throws two touchdowns, two interceptions. They average 15 points. Which Derek Carr are we going to see? I think that's the main question right there. I do think their offensive line is much better. Def defensively, they're a problem for a lot of teams. Look, they go into Tampa in Week 17, and Tampa wins a division, but they shut down Tampa as well as anybody. Dennis Allen, for all the people in the betting market, because Dennis Allen is one of the worst coaches against the spread, he gets a lot of crap, but his defensive acumen is outstanding.

You talked about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Week 17 match last year. That was when the Bucs were on a hot run. The Bucs had like two different hot runs last season where they look like some of the best football in the entire NFL. So you talk about the Bucs, you talk about the Saints, you talk about the Falcons who have an opportunity, and then the Carolina Panthers.

Are we all just assuming they suck this year? Is that how everyone is thinking? Well, they can't suck. They've got to be better than they were last year. I mean, look, I think Dave Canales is going to be much improved offensively. Defensively, look, this is a team that, you know, beat the Houston Texans with C.J. Stroud earlier in the year. They have good defensive talent.

Now they've made a lot of changes. They lost Chen, Luva, you know, Brian Burns. So they're going to have to fill in some real blanks here. But, look, they're going to play hard for their coach because here's why. They know he's got a six-year contract. He's not going to get fired at the end of the year. Now they have a temperamental owner, but at least they have some stability. And I think you'll see a better effort out of them.

And I don't think Bryce Young is as bad as we all suspect he was. Yeah, you're a believer in Bryce Young, have been. So that is something I think should be noted. Now, are the Carolina Panthers going to be able to continue to get better somehow without the temperamental owner? Because obviously you get something wrong, you've got to try to fix it. But in the NFL, if you fix it too much got to try to fix it but in the nfl if you fix it too much you just you just put somebody's career in a blender and then it's do

we ever know and people say we know you know but also do we ever we have no idea because if it doesn't work out this year and can also put uh bryce in much better spots we all assume than he was put in last year but it's like if they stink they stink, is Tepper going to just be like, we're done. I'm paying you for six years. I don't care. Go golf and get out of there. We shall see.

Let's move some other storylines happening around the NFL. Coach Harbaugh continues to be awesome. Coach Harbaugh continues to be great. Herbert, obviously hurt. Well, how should we realistically view that Chargers team? Because as we look at the AFC West,

all roads run through Kansas City. We understand that. And they appear to be back. They're doing behind-the-back bullshit. They're doing that. Gardner Minshew starting for the Raiders. Okay, here we go. At least they have a direction.

I don't know if AP was as excited about making the decision of Gardner or just felt like he had to make the decision, and he continues to roll. The Chargers, are they going to be a real threat here, you think, in this entire AFC West game, or is it going to take a couple years for Harbaugh's shit to kind of settle in? And the Broncos, obviously, plus 2,000. Bo Nix has looked the part, and if Bo Nix looks the part, you can win any game.

So, like, how does the AFC West shape up? And how serious should we be viewing the Chargers? Well, I think the Chargers will become a mentally tough team as the year goes on. I mean, this head coach is all about culture. He's all about trying to manage the game. One of the things we don't see in preseason is the essence of how do I want to play the game? See, this is the biggest conversation that has to take place in all 31 cities today and starting for the next 10 days.

Coach Belichick would be sitting in his office at this time saying, okay, how do we have to play to win this game? How do we have to play to win this year? You can't just come out and say we're going to run our offense. You've got to say, okay, here's our strengths and weaknesses of our team. And I think Jim Harbaugh is really good at that. I think he'll manage the game. His situational football coaching is outstanding. And I think he'll do a really good job. I think his team's going to take some time as we watch in the preseason to come together. Now they get Herbert

back, which makes a huge difference, but they'll be tough. They'll run the football. They're going to have to prove they can stop the run defensively. And Bosa and Mack are going to have to be able to get a little bit of a lead to play from in front. The interesting team to me is Denver. Denver because, look, Denver's one and nine against the Raiders over the last five years. That's hard to believe. One and nine against the Raiders. And so the Raiders have dominated this. But I think with Bo Nix, what you see with Bo Nix, Pat, this is really important. Bo Nix is what scouting is about. It's called scouting inside out. Sean Payton knew exactly what he wanted in a quarterback.

He knew the traits. He knew the characteristics. And he knew the mental makeup that he needed to run his offense. Okay? And so he saw Bo Nix and that fit. Now, it might not have fit for all the draft Nix and the guy in his basement in Des Moines evaluating people. That's fine.

But for Sean, it does. And to get a quarterback who can do what he wants him to do, last year he won nine games. And I think this year they're going to be improved. I really think they'll be improved, even with a rookie quarterback, because Sean, like Jim Harbaugh, will manage the game correctly around the player's skill set. He's not going to ask this guy to do something he can't do. And as for the Raiders, look, I think when you're spending time deciding whether you should start Gardner, Minch or Aiden O'Connell, you probably should spend time thinking we might need to get

another quarterback. And I think that's probably the real... Gardner was inchie, or Aiden O'Connell, you probably should spend time thinking we might need to get another quarterback. Okay. And I think that's probably the real issue. Gardner was in a Pro Bowl last year, Lombo. Michael. You son of a bitch. They don't have a starter. They need a starting quarterback because their offensive line. Look, people can say all the nice things they want.

This is a team last year that won three of the last four games down the stretch. They lost right in front of you to Indy. And when they turn the ball over on offense, they have no chance to win. The last four games of the year, they did not turn the ball over once. And the only game they couldn't create a turnover was the game you watched against the Colts. I just think they're quarterbackless. They've got good skill.

Their offensive line is in question. But they need a quarterback. You don't know Gardner Minshew football. Because right in front of my face last year don't know Gardner Minshew football, okay? Because right in front of my face last year, I saw Gardner shoulder-shimming and lead the boys almost to the playoffs. Almost. Almost to an AFC South championship.

It's literally that far away. That's right. It's literally right there. If he throws it better there, we win the game. Okay. All right. He's doing it bad. Okay.

I mean, that's where people misconstrue. You know, like quarterbacks ask Brady. right there. If he throws it better there, we win the game. Okay. That's where people misconstrue. Quarterbacks ask Brady. It's not about... The ball has to be in a certain spot. When you were in Indianapolis, and you played Baltimore, and Dallas Clark runs an option route on third down, and if you

don't convert it, you're not winning that game in Baltimore. Peyton put the ball in the exact only spot it could be, first down game over. Yeah, I concur on all of that. And there was a couple games last year where Gardner Minshew was certainly not playing his best football, and we got two picks in the first two series,

which I think is what you were alluding to there with the Raiders, especially with the addition of Wilkins on the D-line. You had Wilkins, you got Crosby. They're going to play every single down. It's just like the Steelers situation. Let's not turn the ball over. We cannot be giving away possessions. We cannot get into a shootout with anybody.

That line you wrote there on Twitter is so true. But when you say that, when people hear that, oh, let's not turn the ball over, they think, oh, that's just elementary. Look, let me tell you something. You played in the league. It's hard to sit there. And most games are lost, not won. And we've all seen this before.

And when your quarterback does something wrong, makes a wrong check, and he hands the ball off because you run the ball into a blitz and the back fumbles. All those things tend to mount themselves, and I think that's something you have to avoid. Yeah, they say stop throwing picks. It's like, well, there's so much going on. You've got to be able to decipher what the defense is, first of all. There wasn't, believe me, when I threw it, that person was not supposed to be there. In my head, I had no idea that that person was going to be there.

So it's a very difficult position. And then you talking about checking from a run left to run right maybe because of a disguise that's potentially bringing a blitz. And then all of a sudden when the running back gets blown up, they're like, this is the offensive line's fault. This is the running back's fault. Hold on to the ball. It's like, well, see, also it would have been much easier

if we go the opposite direction. These are all the decisions that are being made by these quarterbacks as they're going up to the line, which is why rookie success at the position is not necessarily an easy thing to find. C.J. Stroud last year was obviously phenomenal. Bo Nix appears to be the perfect guy for Sean Payton. And Bill Belichick yesterday talked about the quickness of the offense

and Sean Payton. It's like that Oregon offense was literally, we're making decisions. And he doesn't need to have the laces. I mean, we're able to do it. And his size is something that I don't think a lot of us appreciate or respect until these preseason games. When he was running all over the Colts, it was like, this is a big son of a bitch.

Like, linebackers are looking, I don't want to say up, but they're like looking up at him, and he's thick, and he's stock, and he's able to make quick decisions. It's like, perfect guy for Sean Payton, which is what he said on draft night. Let's talk about some of the other rookie quarterbacks because the hype around the Sean Payton-Bo Nix relationship on our particular program started on draft night whenever he just sang his praises and that whole thing.

But then during these preseason games, watching him execute, it's like, is this the perfect? He looks like he's a 35-year-old quarterback, Lambeau. He looks like he is a 35-year-old in Sean Payton's system. And it's like, did they figure it out? Both of them would like to prove a lot. Bowe, obviously. Well, at Auburn, he can't win.

His dad, Wade, he can't win at Auburn. He gets run out of town, goes to Oregon, the furthest place away that you could possibly get from how it all ended there. Then at Oregon, this guy can't win, even though the team was phenomenal. This guy can't. This guy can't. And then Sean Payton, this guy can't coach anymore. See what he did with Russell Wilson? This guy's power hungry. I'll do $83 million, just move on from it. It's like they're both aligned, I think with similar mindsets of what they need to do. They're both at a similar spot in their career. They both see football the same way. what if this is the story of the rookie quarterback

head coach combination that we're telling all season but also there's another guy generational ty has a question for you lombo yeah lombo obviously when you watch caleb williams his the box score might not wow you but i think he certainly passes the eye test in terms of just like the highlights we'll see buying time and the pocket making some of those crazy throws um what do you think i mean we've talked a bunch about this about how he might be going into the best situation a rookie quarterback has ever gone into is the expectation that he's just going to hit the ground running when the season starts or how do you think this season is going to play out for caleb williams you know i think highlights are the most dangerous things in preseason

because they tell a story that's not really the story. I saw him do a high-to-higher. Yeah, a little bit higher. Look, let me say this. I think Caleb Williams is going to be a great pro. But let's just put things in perspective here. The first three drives of the game, the Bengals are playing their backup number two defensive team.

And the Bengals and the Bears are playing are playing the first team offense they could get a first down okay so let's just cut let's slow to everybody calm down here let's not run off to the races I think Caleb's going to be a good player but I think the bigger concern for Caleb is going to be can they protect they're going to be a team, and they're in Chicago with bad weather. Is the line going to be good enough? That line struggled to pass to run block against the Bengals' backups. Watch the tape. Tape don't lie.

So I think he's going to have to come. He's going to have good days. He's going to have bad days, just like Bo Nix. But the Bears finally, finally have somebody that they can say will be our quarterback for the next five years. There's no question in my mind about that. But they're going to have to find the right system of offense around them. And I think that's going to be because right now they're going to be a spread team. And that means their tackles have to be really good. He's already committed to the TB12 diet plan. You know, he has like the, on his back,

his phone screen is all the records he wants to get. He's already created the for the Bears. He's like going out in the city of Chicago with the other rookies. It's like, this dude wants to be great in Chicago. It feels like he wants to be legendary in the NFL. Now I'm not saying that from a selfish perspective, but he has very lofty goals to be the greatest of all time. And it's like, to be the greatest of all time, you got to buy into

your team. You got to buy into your community. You got to be able to be coachable. And you got to be able to learn from the situations that take place that maybe don't go well. And that's what this dude's going to do this year. Congrats to the Chicago Bears. Way to go, Chicago. Now, let's stay in the rookie uh quarterback conversation because there's one happening in a place he used to stomp around connor has a question for you yeah lombo bit of a situation brewing in new england going back to the draft obviously you know the plan was hey the patriots have jacoby brissett one year deal i believe it's for eight million three million guaranteed and then you know drake may will have an entire rookie season where, since he is only 21,

can develop, work on the things that he isn't great at, the feet being the main thing. And now, as training camp has gone on, it has become pretty apparent to most people that Drake May is clearly better than Jacoby Brissett. And now, 19 days out from the season opener you know Gerard Mayo's coming out they don't really have a definitive starter for the Patriots and you know Drake May is now taking first team reps and it seems as though the tide is turning towards hey Drake May sure could have had a year off but he is maybe the guy going in week one for New England what do you make of that situation?

And do you think that's smart to kind of just roll out the dice, kind of roll out Drake May as the number one guy from week one on? Or do you see them kind of taking this last preseason game, still going with Jacoby Brissett and letting Drake May come in maybe, you know, week six, week seven, if it calls for it? Yeah, I think to me, I would stick to the plan. I would play Jacoby Brissett until I thought this offensive line got settled down. Right now, we don't know who's going to be the tackles,

how good will they be in the offensive line. And I think, look, I don't think you want to put Drake May out there and have him lose confidence. I don't think you want to put Drake May out there and week three bench him. I just don't think you want to do that. I think it's a lot easier to move from Brissette to May than it is to move from May to Brissette. Then you lose the kid's confidence. And I think a lot of this goes back to what is our plan. I think one of the things Sean Payton has with Bo Nix is he has a plan. He knew exactly what he was going to do from day one when he drafted him to what he was going to do from day one when he drafted him

to what he's going to do. And I think the Patriots should stay on course. Look, Drake May got better last week than he did the week before. I think he's going to continue to make steady progress, which is good. But I don't think the Patriots should rush this guy because he's going to get the crap beat out of him, and it's going to be harder and harder once the games start. Look, preseason is good. But the regular season, it's faster, faster, faster.

That's why you sign Brissette. So I think to me, you have to play, you have to second order think. What happens if May is playing like a real rookie and hurting us? Do I bench him in week four? Or what happens if Brissette's playing and he's not doing something? Then I can put May in and lift the team up and go with it the rest of the year. But once you go Brissette, once you go May, it's hard to go to Brissette from that point. How does he get better, though, Lambeau?

Like you say throughout the rookie year as he's sitting behind Brissette, like he can continue to get better. But if he's not playing and getting reps? I'm not saying bench him the whole year, Boston. i think to me there's going to be a moment where the team's going to say okay we got to get him in there and then those eight or nine games but what you don't want to do is put him out there where he's getting the crap beat out of him like sam howe last year and his eye level comes down remember everything about a quarterback is their eye level their eye level tells you everything when it's yards per attempt.

And when their eye level is above the line, they can see down the field they're throwing like that throw we're watching. But when they start to get hit and they can tell you what the left tackle did on his set, and they can tell you what the right tackle didn't squeeze, then their eye level is too far down and you're not going to have an offense. And that happens when you get hit. It's like a boxer who gets hit too much. You know, all of a sudden he starts flinching at punches that don't come. And so you've got to be really careful here. I think you have to think long-term with Drake May, not short-term. Short-term, okay, Brissette go out there, see what we can do.

If he can't do anything, we can always go to May. But if May goes out there and he goes ahead and sees Lou Amoromo's defense and starts bringing slop glitzes, things he's never seen before, time out. What are we doing? How close were you to nailing that Paisan's name right there? You were close. You were very close. I'm trying, Pat. All the letters were there.

All the letters were there. The sound was there. The amount of syllables were there. You've got to coach Lou Ann Arumo. Paisano. I'll work on my Italian. Thank you. Please be more The amount of syllables are there. You've got to coach Lou Ann Arumo. Arumo? Okay. I did not set it up. All right. I'll work on my Italian.

Thank you. Please be more Italian on this particular program. And you talked about eye level for the quarterbacks. I think Bosa, right, for the Diners, came out and basically said, I mean, I don't want to give away anything, but if everybody looks at what we did to Jalen Hurts, that's pretty much what you got to do. He's just going to look down and it's over.

And then the next week, I shouldn't have said that, I guess. And then what? The Eagles literally lost. Yeah, they went right into the tooth. And the offense went right into the crapper, and everybody was saying that Jalen was worried about Rush more so than executing the offense, which immediately brings you back there. Drake May losing confidence I think is going to be tough,

but there is a chance that you just get – like Bryce Young last year. Yeah. How is Bryce Young's confidence at the beginning of the year versus the end of the year? Like how about Tua? I mean, that clip just came out about Tua talking to Dan Levitard about the whole how Flores talked to him versus how McDaniel talks to him. And it's like, that's just confidence.

His confidence has just come back to be a better player. And if you just get slaughtered and you lose your confidence, you could be broken forever. I mean, that is legitimately a position where you can't be questioning anything. Your teammates, the play, your arm, your eyes, what you're seeing. I mean, people do, but you're not going to be successful in the entire thing but like you know trent williams isn't joining the team week six like the old line is what the old line is like can they not scheme around how terrible you know specifically the left tackle is right now is that not something

they can do or is it no they're going to do that they're going to have to chip with their tackles and they're going to have to protect me that goes back to what i said They're going to have to chip with their tackles. That goes back to what I said earlier. How do we have to play to win? See, the Patriots' path to winning is very narrow. They have to play a certain way, a particular way, offensively, defensively in the kicking game. And same thing with Denver and the Raiders, those kind of teams. Whereas Kansas City, they can play a little different style

depending on who their opponent is and how to win. But for the Patriots, they have to run it. They've got to be able to protect their tackles. They can't get into a 40-pass game. See, this is what happens when you get behind and all of a sudden you're in a 40-pass game. You're not going to win those games. It's too hard. You got a rookie quarterback, you got too much volume, and you got a defense that's going to be playing all variations it becomes a real issue so look i think by week six we'll know better about the patriots offensive line too boss and i think that's the other thing they'll get better all right so we'll we'll move past the new england patriot conversation but something you just mentioned there takes us back to a conversation yesterday with bill where he's talking about the pittsburgh steelers and he was

like pittsburgh steelers aren't a team that are going to be thrown about 40 times and if they are they're not winning like that he he literally broke that down and he said it's so matter of fact it was like oh this is how Bill views whenever he's scouting the Pittsburgh Steelers this is just who they are this who Mike Tomlin is who he has massive respect for when you see that situation kind of unfolding the way it is and Mike Greenberg came on the show last year, and Green is in two Broadcasting Hall of Fames, so he obviously has a way with words and has for a long time. He said, we talked about it on Get Up, McAfee. It feels like the Steelers did the old get rid of one bad quarterback,

now bring in two bad quarterbacks. Is it too early to say that? Okay, you just did a little. Is it too early to say that? I know your thoughts on Justin Fields in the past. Look, like most everything, we overreact. Look, the offensive line was... Not us! You're not talking about us.

We never do that. You're not overreacting. Well, never. You're not us. Yeah, I mean, you can accuse me of that, too. But I think to me, look, I did not think... I think Russell looks a little bit... His eye level's down. I'm not going to lie.

You know, and it would be a concern for me. But I know Mike Tomlin is going to do exactly what I said. He's going to figure out what he has to do to win the game, how he has to play the game to win the game, a strategy that will allow us to win, not a strategy that people want us to do. They've won nine, they won 10 games last year. Ugly.

But to me, you know, I wonder is, you wonder, with the line being as bad as it was, is Ryan Tannehill sitting out there on the street? Do you make that phone call? Do you make that phone call to Ryan Tannehill? He knows Arthur's offense. But like you can see right there, the first-round pick from last year, Jones, just got pushed right back. I mean, nobody can play quarterback in that situation.

Yeah, and that's kind of what Mark Caboli was saying. Mark Caboli was saying, how do we judge anything? What's going on? The offensive line is supposed to be a strength. And they didn't look like that at all. Steelers fans have a new number one target in Pittsburgh, and that is the O-line coach. Last year it was Matt Canada.

This year it's the O-line coach. They're coming after him. Broderick's a left tackle playing it right. Fatano was hurt. He was going to be the right tackle. Dan Moore's been the fourth round pick who hasn't looked great at all. Frazier has looked unbelievable at center. He should be starting, right?

Herbie got hurt. Herbie's a good guy. He was going to be back of guard, back of center, whatever, but Frazier's in there. Frazier's looks awesome. I can't help but think when I see Russ and Fields stand next to each other. Have you seen the recruiting videos when the kids take their dads on recruiting trips and the dads get to dress up in football uniforms too?

Yeah. It's kind of what Justin and Russ look like now. Russell's the dad. Really? If anybody didn't notice that one. Okay. Well, Justin's stropping. He's stacked.

He is stropping a lot. And when he gets moving, it's a show. It is an absolute show. But the turnover conversation is the convo. But I'm glad you guys were talking about with Drake May, and you mentioned Bryce Young, and you brought up Sam Howell, Lambeau. Last year, Sam Howell was sacked 65 times. Bryce Young was sacked 62 times.

The next closest after those were 45 times. Bryce Young was sacked 62 times. The next closest after those were 45 times. The commanders also led in quarterback pressures and quarterback pressure percentage. The O-line was terrible. Which leads my question to Jaden Daniels. I saw in the preseason he's throwing a ball at 1.8 seconds, which would be the fastest of all time in the NFL. Do you think Cliff knows that as far as the O-line situation? And what do we think, what are our expectations for Daniels coming here, rookie season starting?

Well, I think Cliff's smart enough to know that he can't do what the Washington Commanders did last year. That was malpractice to call that many pass plays, to not try to include the run, to get the quarterback killed, to not have answers for certain blitzes that they didn't have answers.

I mean, I think I watched Sam Howell play last week against Tennessee, and he's still reeling from all those hits he had. You know, and Eric Bien-Aimé, the offensive coordinator, he took great pride. Look, Andy Reid would be proud of me. I'm calling all these passes. No, Andy Reid wants to manage the game. You know, you've got to manage the game to give your players

the best chance to win the game. You know, you've got to manage the game to give your players the best chance to win the game. Call and passes isn't exactly the best strategy when you can't protect. So I do think Cliff's smart enough to balance this out. And look, Daniels is a tough guy to defend because he can run the ball. You know, he gained 1,000 yards at LSU. The ball's going to come out of his hands quickly, but they're going to run it. They're going to be in a tight end. We'll be on the field.

I do think they'll try to blend and incorporate. Look, I'm not saying first down run, second down run, pass. No, I think there's going to be some balance, which you have to have to protect the kid. You can't put this guy in a situation where all of a sudden the onus of winning comes onto his shoulders, and I think that's too unfair. This line's not good enough either. They've improved it, but it's not anywhere near where the Detroit line is. I mean, Jared Goff stands back there.

There's nobody around. He's got a table for two. He can throw it whenever he wants. That's when you've got a good team. And Jared Goff, if you give him a table for two, maybe even slide in maybe a four-piece seat, he can dice. We're eating touchdowns. Yeah, that's for sure.

What's on the menu tonight? Touchdowns. Titties. We got some tuds for apps here. We got touchdowns for the entree. And then look at this dessert. Oh, is it a pretty titty? That's why it's so important to have a really good line.

I mean, that's where the Steelers haven't really. I mean, Mike Munchak, when he left, the Steelers line hasn't been the same. These line coaches, let me say this to you. These line coaches are worth their weight in gold. Because when you have the Howard Mudd and you have these Dante Skarnecchi and Mike Munchak, these guys that can coach Munchak, I mean, that saves you as a personnel man.

That's the most important thing in an organization. And you get those guys to play good and you find a young player like Zach Frazier who can be good for four years at an economic value, that's how you handle your cap. Coach Callahan heads down to Tennessee as well.

Great offensive line coach from Cleveland. Cincinnati. Cincinnati. No. He was in Cleveland. Yeah, you're right. He was in Cleveland. Cleveland's offensive line, like, best in the league.

Great. Backups, Pat. Remember, they lost both starting tackles. Then they lost backup tackles. And Billy was able to come in and get it fixed. Now, will he get that done for Tennessee? I think they're going to improve. They'll be a better team in the offensive line

because those line coaches are so important. And when you don't have a good one, it becomes a real issue. And listen, the big boys up front, we appreciate. Always. We absolutely love. And obviously, I've been a part of field goal operations for the entirety of my football life so what offensive linemen have had to do for me and whoever is kicking at the time or holding at the time to do our job is absurd like hey die slowly you're talking about just

full-on there is no me at all in this team this is a ta you. There is no M-E in team. There is no I in this thing. They are literally balls snapped going like this and just getting steamrolled. You're not thinking about your body at all. The technique dies slowly. You're going to get crushed.

They do that just so maybe a ball can go through the uprights for the good of the team. If the ball goes through the uprights, guess who's getting the credit well the kicker is getting the credit and it's like not even talked about then they just got to scrape their bodies up after an entire long drive then they get just absolutely they used to go before these rules changed you'd have people pushing too so you'd have a 260 pound linebacker pushing a 330 pounder uh de-tackle and then doubled you'd have both of those and they'd just be going on one guard's inside shoulder both of them and that guard just was supposed to as soon as the ball snapped that

he's not snapping so he doesn't know the exact time plant your right leg back or left leg depending on the side and then just hold on. And you've got actually 600-some pounds of humans touching you and then 500 pounds of pressing coming. And then if the ball goes through, get your fucking ass up off the field and get out of here because we've got to kick off or the cheerleaders have to do a dance because we're doing commercial break. So shut up and get off. that is the offensive line mentality and they don't get talked about enough but if you have a good offensive line and you can protect and move bodies you're gonna win

games like you are you are gonna win game like that is so with the Tennessee Titans the biggest signing for me all offseason and they've had bunch, and they've certainly had a plan. Callahan going down there. Huge. Especially with his son getting that job. It's like that is a big deal for the Tennessee Titans. They drafted the last two years at that position, first round. You can win you games. You see all these quarterbacks that are good in seven-on-seven,

but then whenever it starts getting good, like Jared Goff, for instance, and we just talked about the Detroit. If Will Levis does have it, and seemingly does, you give that guy time and a run game, so it's like play action can then happen. Got Ridley. And that's all offensive line controlled. That is literally

offensive line controlled, and we never talk about Alonbo. Never talk about the fat boys. No, but they make a difference. Let me add one more layer to it. Bad lines don't travel. Okay, bad offensive lines don't travel. So when you go on the road with a bad line, why did the Cowboys lose road games last year?

Because their line couldn't play very well on the road. It becomes a problem. Crowd noise, you know, concentration, all those things. Good line. That's why Detroit's got San Francisco into the fourth quarter. You know, Green Bay was able to play as well as they did out of San Francisco because their line could pass protect decent enough to do it. I just think, to me, when you have a bad line,

it becomes problematic when you have to go on the road and try to win in a stadium like Indianapolis or Seattle or those places where you can't hear. And that's why it's great to draft receivers. Look, the Bengals took Chase over Sewell. I would have taken Sewell. I think Sewell's one of the dominating defensive linemen in all of football.

Guy's got Hall of Fame talent. But it's true. He does. He has Hall of Fame talent. And he's playing right tackle. He can easily play left tackle. But the guy's a force on if you watch them he's a force on the field he was like 20 when he got drafted yeah oh yeah yeah 22 or 23

fifth year yeah just signed new deal just turned 24 years old first rounder decker first rounder ragnar first rounder those are like the best linemen on in the nfl right there and they all get they're all paid they all get along exactly like they all play good you know even though you get picked in the first round sometimes we blow first round picks they're all paid and they all get along. Exactly. And they all play good. Even though you get picked in the first round, sometimes we blow first round picks. They're not very good in offensive line, but those three are hits. We're going to get out of here, Lombo. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Every time

we talk to you, we feel... Anytime, my man. How have you felt about old Bill stopping by the last couple weeks, man? Obviously, you know him very well. I love listening to him talk. I love it. And he had Cowher on, and I thought it it was great you get all these good he had vince vaughn last week that show's awesome i why do we have to wait till wednesday to get the vince vaughn show can't they just dump them all in there and i can watch you at one time amen i don't know amen i don't know what you i don't know what you're referring to right bad monkey because they release it oh

they're two at a time two at a time they're trying to get the pop so this is what happened with the streaming services and i think tiger king probably put this one on display more than because they release it every week. Oh, they do it two at a time. Two at a time. They're trying to get the pop. So this is what happened. With the streaming services, and I think Tiger King probably put this one on display more than anybody. So Tiger King was dropped over a weekend, and obviously everybody on Earth watched it. Then you talk about it, and I think Tiger King carried on longer than most.

But then it's dead. So all that greatness that used to get from a season, you only get for one one weekend of watching you know like everybody talked about it afterwards they didn't watch it again squid games everybody watches it right through but then you don't talk so what apple started doing was they released like morning show and i think they only got like maybe a three-day pop out of it even though it was months and months and millions and millions of dollars and then they started releasing once a week and they did it with ted lasso as well so

what we pleaded for was like can we at least get two like we're binge binging is the thing like so when you only put one out you're kind of doing a tv model that's all it is so two a week i think is like kind of them meeting in the middle you know i think that is kind of like a meet in the middle for the backlash from we can't binge and that's the entire fucking selling point of this thing but them also being like well we would like this to last more than two days't binge and that's the entire fucking selling point of this thing but them also being like well we would like this to last more than two days so i think that's a meet in the middle but three would be i think three would be that's really small yeah but then it's over i know the strategy that is why they wanted to dominate conversation for eight weeks as opposed to everyone

talks about it the first week more people hear hear about it over that eight weeks. Nothing dominates for that long, especially in this time, except the NFL. Yeah, you're right. I guess each individual week drop will be judged. Do I have to watch it? Do I not have to watch it? And then you move along. So they'll figure it out, but we're in a great era. Let's remember great era. Bad Monkey movie quality TV series

coming out with Vince Vaughn. Two a week. Let's get to three. Let's get to three a week. So three a week, I really hope. And. Let's get to three a week. So good. So three a week. I really hope. And I might be able to watch more than like two shows a year because I won't lose interest because I'm all the way to fucking week. Well, look, we're getting at the time of the year, Pat, where we only have Tuesday, Wednesday

to really watch anything. Amen. Amen. I mean, that's, wife and I know that too. I mean, you got Tuesday, Wednesday. That's all you got. I mean, so if you can't put it, I mean, because I got football Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

Sunday, Monday. What? You know? And I think Jacksonville State has a couple games on, like, Wednesday nights too. Yeah, later in the year. And they are.

You need to watch Jacksonville State. Later in the year. All right, you're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Thank you. Oh, he's talking bad monkey. Yeah.

I didn't know what he was referring to. I'm like, whoa, what are we talking about? I don't know why we got to wait until Wednesday. It was like, I thought he was talking about him coming to our show on Wednesday. It was like, well, he's talking Bad Monkey. Yeah. I don't know what he was referring to. I'm like, whoa, what are we talking about? I don't know why we got to wait until Wednesday. It was like, I thought he was talking about him coming to our show on Wednesday. It was like, well, he's supposed to be on Thursday. Then they moved it to Friday, and we thought he was never going to come on the show.

Vince Vaughn, that is. And then he came on. He was fantastic. It was unbelievable. Awesome. That promo on Team Sports. So good. Yeah.

So good. Ohio guy. I mean, we should have known. Yeah. My father, you know know grew up in ohio we'll be talking about ohio and here on the other side and aj hawk i'll be excited to gather his thoughts on matthew judon's kind of turnaround on the entire situation because if he would have said that with the patriots is there ever uh well it seems like he did because that's why the broken

heart thing so he goes off practice that day. Yeah, yeah. Then they talk that night, and Judon's like, all right, I get it. Goes back the next day, and then Elliot Wolfe and Mayer are like, he says he gets it, but does he? Too late. Yeah, I don't know. He made your bet, and he started with the practice, really. Like, if you go back to the unpadded practices,

practicing the whole time, pads come on, that situation happens. He goes back out to practice. And then by then it was like, you know what? The damage is done. Let's get a pick for this guy. We got rookies that are seeing this happen. Guys on one-year deals that decided to come back. That was their decision.

Is he going to make a difference in the end? Are we going to win a Super Bowl this year? Let's look around. Let's look at each other. Can we get a third for this? Let's be realistic here. Judon, too. We could say we're doing it right by him, too, because you know the whole situation. And if the Falcons don't pay him, hey, the Falcons are screwing up. Which we already know.

They will. Because everything that – They might. There. Thank you. I mean, Bill said it yesterday. They got a lot of money out now. They do have a lot of money out, so that means you've got to win in the very near future.

Which they definitely can. The conversation about Artie Smith's head coaching run down there, the way Bill laid it out, had some quarterback questions, to say the least. They were in games. How many games did they win? I think it was nine games. I forget the...

Seven. Yeah, winning seven games with that team. But what they were able to do, not a lot of resources. He was their offensive weapon too, other than Patterson was a good player for sure, but he was the running back, wide receiver, kick returner, punt returner. He was the only player you heard about. So, like, Bill Belichick has obviously studied that team, studied

everything on that team. Likes Artie. Yeah, and is like, you know what? This guy, Artie, he did a lot more. Nobody's really given his... I know I'm up for the job now because this guy got fired, but I don't know how this guy was able to pull this off. And now Artie's just back to be an offense coordinator, loving his life in Pittsburgh with that mustache. Is he going to be able to get it going up there?

We shall see. Yeah, I mean, it's going to take some time. Obviously, the O-line, it's a new scheme. Artie's a zone-based scheme versus what they were running with Mac Canada. So it's going to take some time, but I trust that Artie will eventually get it figured out. What teams are just going to be absolute shit? There's those teams you're going to have. Several of them. I think we know

some. I think we got a few on the wall. Oh! I mean, Dan Jones and the Giants. I'm sorry, but... Oh, no! How can you not bring that up, Bruce? How can you not? I mean, great D-line, though. That D-line's going to keep him in game. And day ball is the best day ball we've seen.

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We'd love to talk business. Football is the greatest and there's a lot to talk about. So let's dive in. The talk table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys, Tone Diggs back in his high chair. Okay. How we doing? How we doing? How we doing? Fresh out of Hammer. Don! Don! It is great to see you all the boys in the back absolutely crushing it and joining us now live from an attic in Ohio is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl

champion, a Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, the former president of Ohio, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Hawker. A.J. Hawker. How you doing, Hawker? Doing great. How are you guys doing?

Dude, life is great, especially because, like, we're heading to Ireland here in just two days. Crazy. Yes, we are. And then there's an actual college game day. Yeah. Nuts. And then there's an actual college football game.

Big one. Yeah. ACC, big one. Georgia Tech, Florida State.'s actual college football game. Big one. ACC, big one. Georgia Tech, Florida State. That's a big game. You know, could you imagine now, obviously going to be in Ireland, going to be in Dublin, the Erlingus College Football Classic

Lad, I believe is what they were going to call it. They dropped the lad off the graphic. I don't know how that was kind of lost in the entirety of it all. But it's like Georgia Tech, end of the year last year, you see the way they play with the quarterback returning who the entire team loves. They got an Irish kicker too, so I don't want to say

going to have Georgia Tech fans, but there's probably going to be some very big support. And the universe works in magical ways. The sports universe works in magical ways. It's like if Florida State struggles with Georgia Tech early, it'll be held over their head for the entirety of the season. Not saying it's fair, okay? And obviously you can win your way in to the 12-team playoff, and that is a beautiful thing that could take place. If you win your championship,

you're automatically in. It isn't just humans' decisions on who's the best teams and who isn't and four only. So Florida State can't get screwed again if they go undefeated, even though it was a 13 quarterback. We saw the playoff. It all worked out how it was supposed to. I understand that. But if I was from you guys' perspective, I'd be pissed as well. No doubt.

If I was on a team, I would be furious as well through it all. But it's like Florida State is very good. Florida State is reloaded. Norvell is a phenomenal coach. That is why he got the Florida State is very good. Florida State is reloaded. Norvell is a phenomenal coach. That is why he got the Florida State gig. And what he was able to build at Memphis, everybody's like, well, if he's able to do that at Florida State, they're going to have sustained success for a long time.

Last year, a lot of success. This year, let's assume the sustained success means, again, it's going to take place. So they could win by a lot. This could be a close one. Georgia Tech could pull out a win. Absolutely. Week one in Ireland, everybody could be lot. This could be a close one. Georgia Tech could pull out a win. Absolutely. Week one in Ireland, everybody could be tight.

Everybody could be loose. I mean, it's like we're just a few days away from that, AJ. It is awesome to think about. I think anyone that woke up in the Midwest this morning, too, I know Tone alluded to it earlier. It felt like we should be out there at the pumpkin patch. We feel like we are in the middle of the fall right now. The leaves are about to change.

This is football season, man. I think, I don't know where everybody is, but I believe this Friday, high school football starts in Ohio as well. We're finally here. Last Friday, Florida started, I believe, all these parts of Florida, South Florida, more specifically, Teddy Bridgewater led his team onto the field. He's the head coach at his high school. He looks awesome as a coach. More specifically, Teddy Bridgewater led his team onto the field. He's the head coach

at his high school. He looks awesome as a coach. And people forget about Teddy Bridgewater. Whenever he was in his run before he got injured due to a non-contact injury during training camp,

I think it was. Yeah. He was supposed to be MVP. Like, we're talking MVP conversation. To talk about a potential historic career being derailed by injury,

Teddy Bridgewater is somebody you can just drop right into that conversation. What he was doing with two gloves on with the Minnesota Vikings, how he was handling himself, what they were doing. He was, now he's coaching his high school and he's got the boys humming.

I didn't see anything from the other team, so I don't know if they shut the other team out or not, but it looked like the team wearing yellow that Teddy is coaching is going to be a problem all damn year. Yeah, there's a little, like, 10-minute documentary about the high school he's coaching. I believe it's Miami Northwestern or something along those lines. And they have junkyard dogs at that school.

I assume the history of that place creating NFLers is pretty big. I love the entrance. I loved everything about it. Now, obviously, football in different places is pretty big. I love the entrance. I loved everything about it. Now, obviously, football in different places is a big deal. Ohio, starting this Friday, is massive. I assume Pittsburgh. Do we know when? Plum?

I would assume this Friday as well. Yeah, yeah. Mustangs take the field this Friday. Mustangs take the field this Friday. Hey, let's go, Mustangs. We're all Mustangs here. Yes, we are, Mustangs. We're all Mustangs here.

Centerville takes on St. X. Is it St. X week one? Uh-oh. I don't know if it's week one, but I believe it is. Because we know. Ooh, the Herbies. Yeah, the signal car. The V.

One of our friend's boys. Yeah. He's taking snaps for the Bombers senior campaign. It's a good program. Oh, boy. Taking on Centerville Elks. Whoa. Of A.J. Hawk, Mangold, the Cash Brothers,

obviously notorious. His Centerville Elks. His daddy's alma mater. Oh, my. Kirk Herbstreit. Yeah. Wow. Are you worried?

How are the Centerville Elks going to be this year? I think they're going to be all right. Brent Olery at the helm is the head coach. I played with Brent. His dad was the coach for a long time as well. Yeah, I think they're going to be good. You would like to make the announcement about how many games you're going back to this year?

I appreciate you mentioning that earlier. Hopefully, yeah. After when we get back from going to different places on Friday, I'll jet right back to Centerville for the home games. That's very kind of you to commit to at least three games this year for the 7-0 Elks. Elk way. Elk pride. Elk pride. Elk it up.

Go Elks! Stang's got Franklin on Friday for their home over. Tough team. Yeah, but the Elk way. Good guy. Elk pride. Elk pride. Elk it up. Go Elks. Stangs got Franklin on Friday for their home over. Cool. Tough team. Yeah, but the Stangs, I mean, they're buzzing this year. Yeah, the boys got some great fits. Okay. I saw you got the boys some guarding caps.

Yeah, they got guarding caps. Protection. That's the future. Man, I would have loved that. So there was a need. Yeah, love. Okay. Got it. But if it wasn't for everything that happened between your years.

I am who I am because of those concussions. Bingo. And we need to remember that. Thank you, concussions. Yeah, we need to keep an eye on it. We need to certainly remember that. I believe Nonenberg's boy is quarterbacking. Same with Cole.

I believe. Well, he better come out slinging. I guess he had three tuds this past weekend against whoever we're playing. I was sent film. We might have a guy. Hey, John, let's go, guys. You're built for it. Ready for it.

John's been around sports in my life since he is tiny. If he's the quarterback of the Pub Mustangs now. Stangs up. Let's go. Anything you guys up. Hey, let's go. Let's go. Hey, anything you guys need this year, let's remember to utilize said fund.

Don't let your dad, okay, keep any of this out of there, you know. His dad, like, favorite teacher I had. Miss Sanilovich, Mr. Nonenberg. Miss Brooke. Miss Brooke, yep. Miss Brooke. Fifth grade.

God rest her soul. Miss you, Miss Brooke. Miss Brooke was attacked by a uh a monkey yeah one particular oh no that was her yeah yeah miss brooke she survived though monkey it's like a mortal combat fatality yeah finish her i would like to say miss brooke and mr gregory are potentially the two greatest fifth grade teachers on earth. Okay? Because my backpack that was loaded with Newport cigarettes.

Menthol? White and green. Mixed in there? I don't know. Those are menthols. White and green. In my backpack on the cubby. You know, whenever you like your name, put the backpack there.

Yeah, when you hang your bag up. That's where everyone else wasn't hanging their cigs up. It was just you. Mine was in my backpack. I thought I had it all figured out. Is it sticking out of the top of your bag? Yeah, zipped up to the tip of it. Yeah, it was completely caught.

Now, I did not see them open the backpack and find it because I was already in the principal's office because I already got narked off by Stephanie, who over by the dumpster yeah Stephanie yep yep I'll never forget it snitching stuff I thought that was you told me a plan in your backpack well the whole I mean it was hard to say that I had a carton I mean who put the carton in there yeah it was name and sharpie written on it Miss Brooke had to deal with that on that particular day and Mr. Gregory was actually one of the voices of reason after Sally McAfee had to come in there and be like, basically, they wanted to send me like the,

that was back whenever they were doing like the boot camp. Oh yeah. Scared straight. They wanted to send you like scared straight? Yeah, because this was obviously not the first time I had been potentially involved. Say fifth grade? Yeah.

Fifth grade? So you were 10 probably? Yeah, I was young for my grade too. So who were you selling to though? Who were these, who were all, I know grade too so who were you selling to though who were these who were all i know he had cigarette butts too you would sell who bought that's how it started janitors started teachers anyone who would buy i was moving to high schoolers though i mean like i was oh yeah i was uh i was i don't want to say like one of the plugs but i was i

became quickly i mean it was all getting out of control pretty quick, but as soon as I got to the carton phase of it all, I really knew that was, that was my first ever carton though. They get busted with it, but to get to the carton, obviously whenever you're getting them for 25 cents a pop selling for 50 cents, you know, then you get grape juice extras, which is what it all started with. It all started with, I just wanted these grape juice extra, the little cup with the, uh,

the metal, the tin foil over top of it, the grape juice. Yeah, yeah. It was good. So good. I guess I loved it. So that's where it started. Got a bud off of one of the neighbor's mom's ashtrays that we were in. Shout out to Christy and her mom.

We were in her house. She had a trampoline, too, which was fantastic. Some of my wrestling came from Christy's backyard in there. Very nice down the street. Take the cigarette. It had lipstick on it lipstick on upsell yeah 75 cents for that one walk right up to uh the elementary school woods where everybody would hang out at i got gold here i need it 50 50 cents wait who's lipsticks on that yeah i want it well the lipstick i was holding it by they didn't notice until they got it. They did not care.

And then all of a sudden, the business was bored. Yeah. All of a sudden, it was like, wait a minute. And obviously, it's not great to be doing that to.

But I feel like those high schoolers that I was selling cigs to would have found them one way or the other. And the fact that I got grape juice, I was buying them too.

Dishing them out. Yeah. Just the power of the cart. My mom really had to go to bat for me, though. I mean, they were trying to send my ass fucking gone-gone. Virginia. Should we not? This kid is a menace.

Send him overseas right now. Is JT Borns a smoking bar? Dr. Peshcopia. Dr. Peshcopia. Yeah, he was the principal. He was about fed up with me. Dr. P. Yeah, he was tough there. Yeah, that fed up with me. He was tough there.

Yeah, that was fun. But my mom had to go to bat for me very heavily. And then Mr. Gregory saved me pretty much. He was like, maybe we should view this as a positive. He's a good kid. Entrepreneur. Yeah. But I didn't get much shit after that.

Middle school, there was a little bit of that. But boy, yeah, that's where it all started. But Miss Brooke, it was in her room. I miss you. Rest in peace, Miss Brooke. Well, Mr. it was in her room. Miss you. Rest in peace, Miss Brooke. Well, Mr. Nirenberg's boy might be leading the Mustangs. Yeah, I fully expect him to. Also, that paramedic, because when that orangutan ripped her spine out

and took it and slit that paramedic's throat. It was a spear. None of this is true. Miss Brooke missed a few weeks because she did get attacked by an orangutan. Okay, so she did go. That did happen. Yes. Somebody was attacked from a monkey. Okay, so she did go. That did happen. Yes. Yes.

Somebody was attacked from a pet monkey that they had. Yeah. I don't remember which monkey it was. I don't remember which style of monkey. Well, didn't they execute it on the front yard in front of everybody? Get on your knees, monkey. And they just shot it. Who did that?

The firemen? Yeah. Fire people? I don't know. A fireman or... Slice his head off with an axe. Yeah. And then hose it down. They carried those axes. I don't know. A fireman or... Slice his head off with an axe. Yeah. And then hose it down.

They carry those axes. I don't know. Put a hole in its chest with a fire hose. Listen, the Plum FD, okay, the Plum Fire Department, I don't know if they just want to walk around beheading orangutans. Well... They're trying to save the public. What do you mean?

They're a public service. No, but the Plum FD would wrestle and pin. You know what I mean? And make them tap out. Yeah. And make him tap out. And make him tap out and make him subdue him and put the zip ties on him. Who's the alpha? They love Mrs. Brooke, too. They want a little revenge.

Blood for blood. Ladies and gentlemen, we have some other stuff to talk about that is certainly much better than whatever just happened for the last 13 minutes. Joining us live, who is a man who I think legitimately knows everything that's happening all the time, seemingly behind closed doors with the NFL. We're lucky to have him on every single week, friend of the program, senior insider for ESPN, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter. Gentlemen, what is going on today? Schefter, sweet backdrop.

You look like you're in a movie. Where are you right now? You know, I am in DC2 building here at ESPN. We're here for the Fancy Football Marathon. And I knew you were calling around this time. So I'm like, well, where am I going to get set up? Usually, you know, you're trying to figure this out. And there's a little area in the back of a building. I just sat down and I don't know, this is what came about.

So it looks pretty good. It's a beautiful backdrop right now with your blue suit too, with the baby blue, with the sky behind you. It looks like a wonderful day up there in Connecticut. DC2 is the building you're in. How close is it to that? Yeah, pop the caller. How close is that to the cafe?

I was at the cafe for the college football conference. I don't think I realized how vast that campus is. That place is big. A lot of buildings. A lot of buildings. A lot of humans. Where's that building in comparison to the cafe? Which is, they got chefs on deck. Really?

Good chefs. We're talking good chefs. Super Chef Bobby Flay? I don't think Super Chef Bobby Flay is there. I did not hear what you said there. Oh, excuse me. Better than Bobby Flay. These people would beat Bobby Flay.

Better than Guy. I got into it with his prices. Guy's prices. The chefs in this place, real deal. We're talking fits, orders, a lot of options right in front of you. I didn't see any big hats. Big fires. Name tags.

We're talking, it was beautiful up there. how close you to the cafe and have you been through there well i just came from there i just walked there from there to here right now it's about a probably six seven eight minute walk whoa more important are there chefs in the thunderdome does the thunderdome have chefs well chef tur we um we wanted to hire a chef actually put out a bird call to chefs saying, hey, $100,000, full-time chef. All we need is breakfast and post-show snacks.

That's all we need. Simple. Breakfast, post-show snacks. If you could keep it healthy, you would help us all out. And also, we won't have 13 DoorDash cars coming through here three times a day. So we thought about that. Got a lot of great entries. Investigated a lot of people.

Looked into a lot of people. Tried some people's food without them really even knowing us. Going to restaurants because there were some restaurant chefs here in town that were like, hey, we would definitely come do that. Turns out, building code, can't build a kitchen. So we don't even have an oven here. We can't even have an oven here. So got to look into that shit first, Chef. Do you see with the way we operate, you don't always catch all the things.

You know, some things slip through the cracks. Like, can I hire a chef? Don't have anywhere to cook. Sure. Well, you know what I would say, Pat? Put a chef on the bus and make a designated area on the bus the kitchen. We're not smoking out my bus with some great pork sausage. Then it becomes a food truck

too. That's the play. Food truck is the play outside. Keep them away from us. But then, yeah, it doesn't feel as if, hey, aren't you supposed to... Get back to your truck, old man! So that's a little bit of... Anyways, let's move to the NFL. We appreciate your brainstorming.

If you have any other ideas for how you could potentially get a chef into a place that can't cook anything, we want to hear it moving forward. Speaking of what we want to hear, Judon situation here is what we've been chatting about. Strictly because the Hasan Reddick situation that's taking place, the Ayuk situation that's taking place, and the reason why we're here is because he won a new contract. Now he's at a new place, which would be similar to kind of both of those situations. Hassan Reddick, obviously, post-trade, IUK potentially beforehand.

How did this come to be? Everybody in Atlanta knew this was going to be the case with Judon. Did Judon agree to do this similar type of thing with New England before he left? Like, how do we get to this point? And are the Atlanta Falcons doing everything perfectly, seemingly, with recruiting of vets and players that they're looking for? They had a great week last week. You go out and trade for Matt Judon.

You get that done for a third-round pick, and you go out and sign Justin Simmons. Their defense got better overnight. Now, Judon, obviously, the issue there has been the contract, just like Hassan Reddick. And I think that when Atlanta trades for him, there are enough conversations where basically, you know, that there's an understanding that you want to get somebody extended and you want to move forward with that deal. And the Falcons want to, and I

believe they will sign Matthew Jordan. And he said the absolute perfect thing yesterday. I saw you put up a quote on your show earlier about the fact that, hey, I'm not worried about the contract or at least getting it done. They have to get to know me. But they knew what they were getting when they traded for him. They knew the situation. And again, I would think that they're going to figure this out. And this, unfortunately, is how the Jets situation with Hassan Reddick should have for both sides where Redick gets the deal he wants, the Jets get the player they want. It didn't work

out like that, but there's been open communication here. I think there's an understanding and I think Matthew Judon goes in there, says all the right things and eventually that results in a new deal that gets done in Atlanta. Well, congrats to the hospitality and seemingly good business taking place there.

Patriots fans are obviously a little bit bummed out about maybe not taking the same exact path in New England. But they're in a new era. So is Atlanta, seemingly. And Justin Simmons, what he said about the dinner that they had and the recruiting and how it all went. Congrats to Atlanta, seemingly getting it all worked out. Now, there's other cities that need to get shit worked out as well. AJ has a question for you. Shifty, obviously, it seems like every time you're on,

obviously, we're talking about Brandon Ayuk out in San Francisco. You may be feeling some texts about Ayuk right now. What's the latest developments with him, and where do you see this thing ending up? Well, they were off yesterday, so there was no practice in the

building. No, players were not there. Today they go back, and we are now under three weeks away from the regular season opener to where the 49ers are hosting the New York Jets. Now, the 49ers know that they need Brandon Ayuk out there. He's made a lot of plays for them over time. He has had a great run, and they want to get the deal done. They've made him multiple offers to try to keep him. But for whatever reason, that deal hasn't gotten done, and that has allowed other teams to enter the fray with trade conversations.

And so I think we're at the point now where we're going to start to get a push here to see how this winds up, how it's resolved. And I think the 49ers would like to keep him, want to keep him. I still think that's the more likely scenario. But to think that there's any likely scenario for this particular situation would be a mistake because there was a time when I thought, okay, it sounds like he's going to be traded to Cleveland. And then there was a time where I thought, well, it sounds like he's going to be traded to New England. And then there was a time I thought, okay, he's going to be traded to Pittsburgh. And then I thought there was a time he's re-signing with San Francisco. And here we are on, what is it? Tuesday, August 20th. And nothing is still done.

Nothing. And I just think that everybody, everybody is at the point where they know they need to get resolution, whatever that is, right? So they're running out of time because if he's going to be playing opening weekend, which you would think he would be, whether that's in San Francisco or Pittsburgh or Cleveland or wherever, it's time to get back on the practice field and it's time to start gearing up for the opener wherever you're going to play. And then there's the business at hand. If he's going back on the practice field, why would you go back on the practice field to get ready for an opener if your deal's not getting done wherever that is, whether that's in San Francisco or you agreeing to a trade to another place.

So I just think we're entering here an important time for Brandon Ayuk where I think at some point this week there'll be activity here, and we'll see what that leads to. Okay, some sort of activity. I like that because there's been a lot of activity, and then there was some Fugueaz activity seemingly from it all and you just said that you know you feel like the most likely at this particular point is for him to go back to the niners is it as i don't want to say volatile because that seemingly has a negative

connotation is it as random of an outcome right now as it has been over the last couple weeks on what the hell happens here i think it is pat like i said Like I said to you, I said that that I said I said to you today that I think that that's the most likely outcome. But I'm just telling you at various points, I would have thought the most likely outcome would have been him being traded to Cleveland or to Pittsburgh or New England. And so the most likely outcomes shift on an almost daily basis. How this unfolds in the end, we're all waiting to see. Again, today, the outcome that makes sense, whatever that means, is going back to San Francisco. But there's a lot of things that don't make sense here,

so it's hard to predict exactly how it's going to go. Here's what we do know. I think he would like to be in San Francisco. We know he wants to be paid. And we know the 49ers want to keep him. So if all that is there on a wedding day, there had to be elements today. It shouldn't be that hard. It shouldn't be that hard to get to the point where you figure out what it's going to take to get it across the finish line, get the guy under contract. Here you see the top paid wide receivers heading into the season, the average annual salary. It's not hard to slot him

in here, right? Like I saw, I would think somewhere between Devante Adams and Tyree Kill, right in that range, 30, 28, 29, whatever that number is, it's going to be right in there and get the deal done wherever it is, you know, resign in San Francisco or agree to move on. But, but we're under three weeks and it's time to figure it out because you got to practice. And I don't think you want to step onto the practice field without a new contract. Yeah. And you know, wide receiver and quarterback relationships are obviously a massive ordeal. And, uh, the sooner we see him back on the football field, we'll all be happy because we think he's a dog as

a player. There's a lot of fan bases that want him. If he goes back to San Fran, signs a deal, the locker room will be very pumped to have him back. Fans will be pumped to have him back. If he signs somewhere else, fans will be pumped to have him. It's a win-win, but let's get to it, is what Shefty is seemingly saying. We agree on

a lot of these things. What separates us is much smaller than what brings us together here, T. Sure. We put our swords aside for just a matter of moments. You want to be here. We want you here. You want money. We want to give you money. Let's figure this whole thing out.

We'll be able to. Not hard. So let's talk about the Trent Williams situation, because that might make it a little bit harder, right? Because they don't know how much they're going to have to allot to him. So they don't know how much money they have to potentially give to Ayuk or are these two separate operations? And I know like offensive line, especially with Trent, and I'll quote Robert Sala when

he was talking about Hasan Reddick. We know that Trent's working hard. We know that Trent has been a very good football player for a long time. Bros pro. We know he's bros pro. We know he'll be ready whenever he comes back here, which is what Coach Sala said about Hasan Reddick before the mandatory OTAs, which he was unexcused,

also known as inexcused for, alongside Aaron Rodgers. Now Hasan Reddick went out. But with Trent, we know he's going to be in shape. We know even if Trent wasn't in shape, he'd probably still be top tackle in the entire NFL. Not as much worry because he's an offensive lineman, or what are you hearing here, and how does one affect the other? Well, I think one does the effect the other, because I think the 49ers

have been consumed with trying to resolve the Brandon Iyuk situation. And with all the manpower, brainpower, time and resources that have been allocated to figuring out the Brandon Iyuk situation, I almost feel like Trent Williams, in this particular case, everybody feels like they'll figure out a way to get this done when they need to. He's a 36-year-old guy. Again, I think we're at a point now where you want to start getting everybody back into camp. And it's one more reason to get the Iyuk situation resolved so they can then devote their time and energy

to figuring out the trent williams situation but you got to get iuk done first and then they can go on to trent williams i mean i guess you can go on trent williams first if this goes on you have to get that done anyway but it just feels like their time and energy has been spent on one player all right well san francisco 49 you guys will figure it out. That's what the Niners do, baby. That's what the Niners do. A lot of other shit to figure out as well. Connor's got a question for you. Yeah, Shefty, with you saying that Iuke's falling between

that 28 to 30 range, what do you think about Jamar Chase and C.D. Lamb? Obviously, Jamar still has two years left on his deal, and he's at the Bengals facility participating, but not actually practicing. what do you think about those two deals and when should we expect those to get done and will those get done before the season look those are the three real big questions right now brandon iuk cd lamb and

jamar chase now cd lamb again i think the two sides aren't that far apart on a deal i don't think it should be that difficult, but again, it's Monday, August 20th. He's still not there, still hasn't gone through camp. So this is not gone the way that everybody expected. But my understanding is that two sides aren't all that far apart. And somehow, some way, I and others believe that they will figure out a way to bridge their differences so that C.D. Lamb will be there for week one. Now, the question becomes, okay, he's there for week one, but he didn't go through training camp. His conditioning level won't be exactly what you want it to be. Are you at risk for some type of muscle strain, which you hope doesn't happen? But this is what comes along with

sitting out time during training camp, but I still think that they find a way to figure that out. C.D. Lamb's got one year left in his contract. Dallas has wanted to pay him. Brandon Ayuk has got one year left in his contract. San Francisco wants to pay him. And that's where the difference comes in with Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase has got two years left on his contract, and he's got two years left on his contract for a team in which the president, Mike Brown, already has come out and said he doesn't believe that this is the right time for an extension that he would prefer to wait. Now, I think the team would like to get this deal done. Clearly, Jamar Chase is an incredible receiver.

He's very valuable to that team. And we'll see if they can figure out a way. But this one is a little bit more complicated than the others because he's got more time on his deal, because we have a franchise that hasn't been as enthusiastic about as engaging in contract extension discussions. And in this one, like we've got we've gotten a glimpse of what Brandon Ayuk is feeling all along. Like he's been on podcasts. He's posted on social media. Jamar Chase hasn't talked to reporters there at all since the season ended. That tells you something without saying anything. He hasn't spoken during training camp. He's not really posting messages

on social media. We don't know exactly what he's thinking, but I'm going to assume, and I don't think it's far off, that he's not real happy with the way that things are going, considering that he's scheduled to make a million dollars in base salary and gets a 3.8 roster bonus. So he's scheduled to make $4.8 million this year. Now, Chad Ochocinco over the weekend said, and I don't disagree, he doesn't believe that Jamar Chase will step on the football field again until he has a new contract because there's just too much at risk. Now, he also thinks that a deal could get done this week, which would mean that the two sides would be able to bridge the differences that have existed throughout the course of the offseason, and they would recognize

that the season's closing in and that they would be able to get a deal done with Chase. I just think there's a lot here that has flown under the radar that makes it complicated and sticky with Jamar Chase. I appreciate all the detail there into the Jamar Chase situation. And whenever Chad Ochocinco, who we all have massive respect for and is obviously plugged in in a lot of places to players and teams, whenever he says he's not going to step foot on the field until he gets a new deal. With his deal only being $4.8 million max or whatever, the fines aren't that big, right?

Well, you're going to get fined a game check. It's like, all right, well, people are getting fined. He's also on his rookie contract, and the fines can be waived on a rookie contract. And also, there's $34 million a year coming on the other side. So if you're going to fine me $250,000 over the first— Fine me. Yeah, fine me.

And you're also talking about a guy who in college sat out an entire season because he also knew the business at hand. He was savvy and smart enough to recognize his value and didn't want to do anything to risk it. Yeah, we wish he would have played in college because that would have been awesome to watch, obviously. He is so good at the football and ended up working out. I remember in his first training camp, he wasn't catching a ball.

And people were like, this guy sat out. He forgot how to play football. And Joe and him were like, everybody fucking relax. And then what do you have, a touchdown every week? Pretty much. His rookie year was just like, took a year off, worried about business, picked right up where he left off off became one of the best wide receivers in the league which is why he's seeing what everybody else is getting and he said so i'm getting one million base salary this year

and his team's getting 35 you got two years left too this is on you this is oh well that seems like this is going to be on you i hope they get it sorted because joey b seems to have a little bit of uh a little revenge season feel yeah Cool hair, mindset, him talking. With Jamar and then everything else they got going over there, why not the Bengals back in the AFC? T's there for one last year, too, one last hurrah. Why not the Bengals? They need to figure that whole thing out.

Hopefully they're able to do that. Speaking of figuring things out, saw a quarterback back in the building. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Chef D, we're talking about how little time it is to the regular season, but still 16 days. It feels like Justin Herbert being back at practice was 16 days before the opening kickoff is a good sign after

that plantar fascia injury or whatever we're calling it was. Do we have any worry about Justin Herbert going into week one? He's tracking to play against the Raiders in week one, and he is expected to be ready. Now the question is, will he be limited in his mobility in any kind of way?

He came out of the boot, was back at practice. That tells you everything you need to know right there. He's going to be out there, and this is a guy that's played through torn rib cartilage in the past. This is a guy that's played through a lot of injuries. He's really tough. He's playing opening day. He's not not playing opening day.

The question is, can he run around? Can he do the types of things that he's done regularly throughout the past? But in terms of his availability, he will be available in week one. Okay, that's big news. Is Harbaugh going to be available for more press conferences than everybody else? Because I would like to hear him speak more. He's unbelievable, right? I'll say this.

I had the occasion at the owners' meetings to sit down with John and Jim Harbaugh together for about 40 minutes. And we're going to play that before Monday Night Football this year. Pat, they were off the charts together.

Yeah, we were across the hall. If you do recall, we were across the hall. We saw you guys Pat, they were off the charts together. Yeah, we were across the hall. If you do recall, we were across the hall. Yeah, off the charts. We saw you guys go in for it, and we saw you guys come out. And the amount of jocularity on the way out, it was like, oh, that must have been a good time. It tackled you. Yeah.

Harbaugh was telling me about the hip drop tackle, and I was like, so how do you feel about the hip drop tackle being banned? He's like, oh, it needed to be banned. And it's like, wow, you're the first football person I've really heard say that. And he reenacted what – we just can't have this. And then he grabs me, huge dude, and just throws his body on me. He's like, see, can't have that. And then he goes, this is okay.

You know, this is okay, but it's this that is really – and he's doing it to me actually in the hallway. First time ever, like, really getting tackled, I guess, by Harbaugh, but also, like, full winner. It was – I'm so happy he's back in the NFL. Huge. And if they have success, that'll be a lot of fun to follow. Speaking of fun to follow, how about Fanatics Fest?

Ty has a question for you, Shefty. Yeah, Shefty, talking about limited mobility with Herbert, what's your mobility looking like going into week one? Obviously, we all saw the footage that captivated the internet. You running the 40 and kind of eating shit. You were inches away from getting folded in half like a lawn chair, falling onto that crash pad. How's the

body feeling? And obviously you dusted Rich Eisen. Congratulations. How are you feeling overall after this? That's a great athletic feat that you accomplished. And it was your hamstring or just your athleticism that gave out at the end here? I mean, that could have been bad. Keep that wide.

Keep that wide. Keep that wide. Keep that wide. Big as possible. Let me say this. I kicked Rich's ass, but I also kicked my own. Because when I'm running there, I don't know what happened. I tripped and fell.

I had no idea what was coming. Thank God. And I face planted, obviously. So I landed on my face. Look out! I landed on my knees. I landed on my knees. I landed on my knees. Both my knees,

the skin's ripped off on them. They're really bruised. My hamstrings are sore. Here's the deal. A 57-year-old man should not spontaneously be running a 40-yard dash and being as determined as I was to beat the king of the 40-yard dash,

Rich Eisen. He's trained for this every year to raise money for St. Jude. And he's been unbelievable about raising all this money. But he's become known as the king of the 40. And I wanted to dethrone him that day and kick his ass. And I feel like I did. And you did. And you did.

And you did. Now, Rich looks phenomenal. Being able to stride out like that at both your guys's age you should feel very very proud of like i was watching that thinking of my knees my hamstrings uh maybe hip flexor that i just ripped in there and you guys dressed up like casual suits doing that for 40 yards nothing but respect just want to let you full sell out nothing but respect i thought you blew your hamstring out there you You just tripped and fell on the line. I just tripped.

I don't know what happened. I wasn't, I don't know. All of a sudden I felt myself crashing. I was so determined to get to that finish line. And I think I just took a wrong step and just fell right on my knees. Like both my knees crashed down before I face planted. So now you are on team switch to turf we need grass right because you just felt absolutely yeah oh right there was a

perfect example like yeah field turf right there now they've got me over to the grass i was on that side anyway for player safety but now i'm in for reporter safety as well yeah because that's cement under there with just some turf cement Cement. Boom. Cement. Imagine that pad not there, Shefty. We're talking front bump. Broken nose. Jaw. Neck, maybe.

Teeth gone. Everything. Oh, yeah. Teeth reconstruction, like implants. It would have been the whole thing. In fact, I was talking about the sniffer. The sniffer would be flattened on the face. Oh, my.

Hey, but you sold out there for the people, which we respect. That's all that matters. Hey, all that matters, it doesn't matter that my knees are sore, my hamstring's tight, my knees are scraped up. You won. We won. We won. The king of the 40 has been dethroned.

It's Adam Schefter. Yikes, Rick. Wow. You need to start doing this. Every time you do a – you need to do the LeB been dethroned. It's Adam Schefter. Yikes, Rich. Wow. You need to start doing this. Every time you do a, you need to do the LeBron James, this thing, every time you do like a news break,

just go ahead and, Rich, like I said. Don't you forget. And then back to you guys at the desk. Hey, Monday Night Football Countdown should be a blast, huh? You got a chance to work with the crew yet? Have you been around? How would he feel?

Chemistry's high? Jason Kelsey getting added to the mix? He got a chance to work with the crew yet? Have you been around? How would he feel? Chemistry's high? Jason Kelsey getting added to the mix? He's a fun guy. He's very popular, and he's going to do a great job for the team this year. Yeah, and Tone just reminded me, you guys decided to take a trip to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and then found out the boss was going to be there as well and said, wow, we were coming to the great city of Pittsburgh. This place is awesome.

Then we find out Bruce Springsteen's here, and then you guys are like you know what tonight let's not do any inciting let's put our phones away let's put our phones aside and all the insiders that we've basically ever come to know all sit in the same section of one concert how'd this come together and is this like uh is this your thing whose thing was this no no what happened was uh walsh texted me or called me about four or five months ago. So Woj can text and call. That is a big piece of it. I thought he was just saying. I thought that was it. Good way to baby Woj. And so Woj organized this whole trip and he's like, hey, can you go to Pittsburgh in August for Bruce?

You know, I like Bruce, but I'm like, I'll see. I don't know. And then I was planning, oh, as the mentalist, I've helped coordinate but I'm like, I'll see. I don't know. And then I was planning O's the Mentalist. I've helped coordinate his travel and trips the last few years. So ESPN wanted to do O's the Mentalist with the Bills and the Eagles. So I called the Eagles and the Eagles were like, could you do Wednesday, August 14th in Foxborough? We're going to be there scrimmaging the Patriots. We'll have O's perform for our team that morning.

I'm like, great. I called the Bills. I'm like, great. I call the Bills. I'm like, you want O's? Yeah. Could you do it Thursday, August 15th in Pittsburgh? We've got a joint practice with the Steelers. I'm like, when does that ever happen that something goes the way you would want it to go in terms of timing and planning? Let's go, baby.

Let's go, baby. Blessing the O's. That's the Billsills were going to be in Pittsburgh. So, O's performed for the Bills at 6 o'clock last Thursday night. It was unbelievable. It was incredible. And then I went, from the end of that performance, I walked right over

to meet all these guys for dinner. People don't realize, like, there's Dusty May, the Michigan basketball coach. We had Will Hardy, the jazz basketball coach. Matt Tumbleson from the Thunder, Josh Longstaff from the Charlotte Bobcats, a bunch of NBA people, and it was awesome. Sat there in the stands, watched Bruce.

He's 74 years old, and I'm going to tell you something. That guy is a marvel. That guy is incredible. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the boss doesn't miss. You guys booze in here? Are we sober? Phones away, phones out. How was it to be around the screen time kings? It's the first time that all those people ever have gathered in one room at the same time. And Woj put it all together and it was a great, memorable night. And we still got

a text chain going and all the people trading messages and pictures. And it was a fun night. Was Thamel there with his family and just so happened to be in the same area or was he with you guys? Everybody came solo. Everybody came by themselves and met up there for one concert one night. Pete's about 30 beers.

It might be a return engagement. We're talking about gathering for an REO Speedwagon show or something like that. We'll see. Were you guys boozing here or no? Yeah, we were drinking beers. Yeah, we had a few beers at that point. I'm sorry. Sue me. We had beers

at Bruce Springsteen. Pete Bama had four to six. Four to six beers. In 12 to 14. Can you imagine Pete drunk? Look, yeah. i'm seeing him right there yeah i'm looking at it chefty what a what a pose the the wave in the photo is such a good move jet passen's full-on at a rock show yeah we are in the middle of this

looks like his chins on his hand you know like i framed it i didn't even know like i framed like his face almost you know. That was not intentional. I had no idea that I was going to do that. But there's Hassan's mouth wide open, ready to drink more beer. And I got my hand right there.

Yeah, we love it. Yeah, who did take the photo? Shams. Rapaport? Springsteen, I think. There was, you know what? We had Brooke Pryor

and Elena Getzenberg who covers the Bills. They were in the stands. Woj gave them two tickets. Woj was like the ticket dispensary that night, and they took a picture of us. We leaned over, and they get the photo credit for that. How about Woj being

the plug? How about it? I appreciate it. Okay, you're the man. We can't wait for another NFL season alongside the Schefter train. Good luck with the full-day fantasy fun camp. What's going on? Well, we're going to say, you know, while I'm on the phone, I will say I did get a text.

There's breaking news. My sister-in-law's house is on fire, so I got to get on this right now. Okay. All right. Let's go figure it out. Call the fire department. Ladies and gentlemen. 911.

Also, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Schefter. We bring you the news. Hey, Schefter. Schefter's phone is plugged into 911 in three different counties. That's how he gets all the scoops. Yeah. There's breaking news. There is breaking news.

Hopefully someone else dialed 911. They didn't text Chefty. Hey, Chefty. Text Chefty. Tell him to call 911 now. So the other day I was in a situation where I thought maybe I was going to get attacked and I was excited for it. And I had thought about my plan on how I was going to execute what was taking place.

Had somebody like kind of follow me around in a couple of different places. And I went into the bathroom and I'm like, all right, I'm going in the stall. And when this dude walks in here, it's movie time. This is, we are doing this. Had to pee though. So had to, let's do this first so that during it i'm not pissing my pants while it's all taking place had a whole concept and idea what was going to happen had a full plan had weapons in place if need be around the bathroom gonna do the entire thing yeah so

here door open and i'm like all right here we go it's showtime and uh i was going to take this guy down and i was going to hold him down and then i was going to call wwe head of security jim kelly okay and he was obviously going to be pissed that i didn't call 9-1-1 and the cops but then i was going to tell him that i just wanted you to know that i'm about this shit like right now there is a guy in the bathroom on just to talk shit to jim kelly who's with the wwe force him to call the cops you know so he knows what's going on and through this entire thing i like that the schefter family is like, anything goes wrong, Adam's always on his phone. Call him.

He'll know who to get you to. Adam, don't you know that you have the connection at the firefighter place? 911? Yeah. 911. 911. I hope they're okay, though. That's no fires are fucking scary.

Yeah. I wonder. Yeah. Dumpy's. Dumpy's apartment this weekend. Yeah. Buddy, that car was smithereens. I was passed out on my couch, to be fair. It was like 1130 Friday night.

And the fire trucks woke me up. Alarms go off all the time at my apartment just for nothing. But this was very loud, and it was very real. So a car caught on fire, and then it got to the building. And then the building obviously goes yeah you see it from where i was yeah huge smoke you can see this but i don't i live nowhere near downtown you can almost see like smoke like from fire fire huge so the car ran into the building and caught the building on fire no so there's like a parking lot up top i can send the picture of the

car car was listening to post malone album just spontaneously the aux cord yeah the aux cord was left on person one in to go grab something left aux cord f1 trillion playing there you go I had some help yeah and actually the good thing about that f1 trillion thing is it did go down with the car it played all the way until that way until the last char was burned. This car out of a movie because Gump walked over and took a picture of it and sent the photo.

The car lit up, but then somebody who's in an apartment having a night, just having a night, no idea, all of a sudden, because five apartments

can light quick. If one wind gust or just one, like there's the fire that's happening in the building that is connected. He's part of this. It's all five apartments can light quick. If one wind gust or just one... Like, there's the fire that's happening in the building that is connected. He's part of this. It's all the same. There's like four people that own every apartment in downtown Indiana. What apartment complex is it?

Cityway. That's big dogs. Cityway is... Oh, yeah. They're charging New York prices in Indiana. Oh, yeah. Next level. At Cityway.

But you get... You get really... You don't. You don't. No. Yes, you do. No, you do. Don't understand. really... You don't. You don't. No. Yes, you do. No, you don't. Don't undersell it.

No, you don't. You don't get much. No, it's great. And then did he send the photo of the car or whatever? Yeah, there's the car. That's where it started at right there. Did you pull the survivor out of the car, Goop? No, I was just standing on my deck, kind of watching everything go down.

There were no survivors. The firefighters had it. There was nobody in that car. Yeah, I'm just kidding. down. There were no survivors. The firefighters had it. There was nobody in that car. Yeah, I'm just kidding. What? I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Fire's scary as shit, though, so I'm happy that Schefter's on it for his sister-in-law.

I think he'll be able to sort it and get it figured out. What did we learn there about the IUK situation? Hey, Ness, sounds like? Yeah. Sounds like he's thinking it happened. Everything is on the table. By the end of this week, Schefter actually has kind of a deadline, I guess. He said there was a time where I thought the most likely outcome

was he was going to be a Cleveland Brown. There was a time where I thought the most likely outcome was that he was going to be a New England Patriot. There was a time where I thought the most likely outcome was he was going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. There was a time now today that I think he's most likely to be re-signed with the San Francisco 49ers. He talked about practice. He brought up practice

pretty good. They need to start practicing. Need to start practicing. It's like, who's telling them that information now? Is that the IU folks being like he would like to get on a field in practice? Or is that the teams? And he said, everybody is saying this. So is that multiple teams being like, whatever ends up happening, we just would like to get them on a field ASAP?

I'm kind of intrigued how that plays out. Then the Trent Williams deal, hinging upon that because they're exhausting all the resources, which I've heard is a thing that people say in the IUK situation. And then now they can't do anything with Trent. It's like, what a wild time for them. And then I'm not going to judge preseason Brock Purdy because I've seen regular season Brock Purdy and playoff Brock Purdy. But preseason Brock Purdy because I've seen regular season Brock Purdy and playoff Brock Purdy but preseason Brock Purdy this past weekend with no CMC no Debo no Kittle no Trent obviously no Iuke so basically nobody on the opposite side and they still had him playing which you know certainly interesting it wasn't great like there was a couple things that happened during the game where you're like that's not Brock Purdy football like even something as small as he stepped out of bounds

two yards behind a line of scrimmage when he could have just literally just easily did that. He takes a sack for a two-yard loss. It's like, that's not Brock Purdy football. He threw a ball up in a crowd of, like, three people. And that was incomplete. It fell incomplete. But, yeah, it wasn't Brock Purdy.

That's not Brock Purdy football. And then you start, you're like, oh, no, it's Brock Purdy. And then you look at everybody on the sideline. You're like, why is Brock Purdy playing in this game? Yeah, what the hell is going on? Why do they got Brock Purdy? And then you look at everybody on the sideline and you're like, why is Brock Purdy playing in this game? Yeah, what the hell is going on? Why do they got Brock Purdy? And that's because he's so jacked right now. They wanted to make sure everybody could feel it, AJ.

But this San Francisco 49ers situation continuing to linger much longer than I think I thought it would. Well, the IU situation, I just don't understand. I just wonder how much dialogue there is back and forth between everybody and also with these things happening. When it happens, boom, it just happens. One person can make a decision and either give them what they want. You could all of a sudden say, this is good.

I'm going to sign. You never know. Shefty, I guess we know Shefty, though. He has a finger on the pulse, especially San Fran. Yeah, seemingly everywhere, but definitely through the past. San Fran. Before we get to Beat Ryder, who works for the Pat McAfee Show, let's do some college football stuff that caught our eye.

College football stuff that caught our eye. Ole Miss team meeting. Electricity with a basketball hoop going in and somebody burying a bucket. Running back coach named Kevin Smith. One-on-one.

I assume that's a defensive coach in the team meeting. I don't know if there's an extra sprint on the line, but nonetheless, step back, Hezzy, jumper falls, team goes crazy. He stands on the projection screen area, flexing as the entire place is going apeshit. It is these types of moments that you see from a team meeting that make people, I think, that have been in a locker room or been on teams before go,

ooh, that team likes each other. That team seemingly all in. This is training camp, dog days, tired, through the legs, step back, hezy, jumpy, bang! Offense wins something there. I don't know what it is. Maybe one less sprint at the end of practice.

Maybe something in the food. Maybe something in meeting time. Whatever it is. Big moment. Love what's happening with Ole Miss, AJ. Well, I know Tone put out his college football preview. He has Ole Miss as one of the teams that can contend for a national title. Don't you, Tone?

I do. Jackson Dart is back at quarterback. They bring in two Texas A&m pass rusher in a miami i believe pass rusher to add edge rusher to add to a d line that was very good last year they're ranked six going into the season all eyes are on lane kiffin can he get it done can jackson dart with another year of experience be able to do it they lose jank no yeah judkins the running back so obviously that's going to be tough to replace, but strengthen up the defense.

The vibes look to be immaculate. Now, the question is, what will Lane Kiffin be drinking at his press conferences? This video came out of Ole Miss literally yesterday. Does anybody drink Coke? You guys had 130% of your sugar for the entire day in this one bottle. You have to eat 15 oranges to get the sugar from 65 grams of Coke. 65 grams of sugar. When was the last time you had a Coke?

A long time. I don't know. Chris Lowe drinks Coke, though. I do know that all right see you guys gotta be an easier way to like a transition out of that right at least he didn't just wander not towards an exit or whatever

the case is. I like that he looked at that Coca-Cola and he was like, I'm sick of this. I know they're probably paying millions of dollars to be here, but why can't we go with, boom! What if he pulled one out? What if he knocks that down and puts a Coke Zero down? Say, I'm trying to live a little longer. Let's go to Nebraska. Friend of the program,

head coach Matt Rule. We showed a video of him talking to the team last week where he was holding them accountable and asked them a lot of questions on whether or not we want to win or lose. We got an insight into why Matt Rule has been such a successful college football coach. And you know, you wonder how the team responded to this. How did the team buy in? Well,

now we're getting video out of Nebraska Cornhusker Training Camp. They're bought in. Nebraska is tight right now and Matt Rule is the man. If I miss it, if I miss it, if I miss it,

if I miss it, you don't have to run. This is normally on a field goal kicker. Instead, it's Matt Rule golfing. Look how good he looks, too. This is a whole team. Throws phone, one-handed grab by player. They're all seeing the same damn picture.

Back flip. Walk off. Get your ass on the line. Don't ever come at me again. Everybody at once. Hey, one rep. Run it like you need it. Run it like you want to win.

One rep. Okay, hey. I like what they're doing over there. And I like that Matt Rule put himself in that position because imagine if he divots that. Duff's that.

Oh, players are going to be loud. You can't golf again. That's going to be very tough. But instead, at the end of that video, which we don't have enough time for, he says nine times out of ten, I'm missing that. But they were talking. They were running their mouth. Exactly.

People like me, you don't do that, too. And it's like, that's what Matt Rule is looking for from his team. Are the Nebraska Cornhuskers going to – Oh, no. Is the Big Ten staring at a new powerhouse in Nebraska? A couple years, maybe. Sure. No, what if it's this year no it won't be

they got a quarterback they know who their quarterback is right yeah we should just give him the Heisman right now shouldn't we because he looks like Patrick Mahomes he actually does he does physically

he looks just like Patrick Mahomes we'll be back tomorrow be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life we continue on YouTube and ESPN Plus suspended from TikTok Live still

are you kidding me yeah because Jack Carr did the thing I don't even know if I'm allowed to even do that it might change their life we continue on youtube and espn plus suspended from tick tock live still still yeah because jack har did the thing i don't even know if i'm allowed to even do that is that why that's why we're saying what well what i'm mimicking is jack car navy seal sniper going up into a perch and saving the world how come there's no context fucking world how come there's no context in the entire that's abuse and daddy do you know who got shot worst of the worst yeah exactly atomic bomb gonna take over the entire world but Jack Carr up from that perch right there right outside of pretty much Sports Studio took that rifle right there and put a hole in the head of Arthur I. Fishel, also known as AI, who was willing to drop

a nuclear bomb in the middle of this place. I wasn't here for it. Obviously, they took over our place, had a meeting of these incredibly important folks and influential people, and thank God Jack Carr was here just hanging out because he was going to be on the show the next day. Or maybe they suspended us because we're the only ones

that won't bend the knee to the CCP. What are they asking you to do? It's that goddamn AI they're using as the issue. Maybe. It is. Maybe. Hey, Steve Kerr had some bars last night. Dude, are you kidding me?

I missed it because Monday Night Raw saw some bars out of Steve Kerr. Like the great Steph Curry said. Night, night. Night, night, bitch. I like that. I like that now this is the answer for the other parties, right? Yep. Yeah. Okay. Is there a Hulk in the hotel with Hulk?

I don't see. I did see a video of one particular man and Hulk Hogan side by side. I don't know how that would be a fair fight ever. I didn't like the way he was framed. Well, he did have... Hulk Hogan, you side. And I don't know how that would be a fair fight ever. So I didn't like the way he was framed. Well, he did. Like Hulk Hogan, you're the Ichiban. I mean, what are we?

Ichiban, Hulk Hogan. The guy was strapped, though. He had a couple of side pieces on his back. I am excited for this, though, because we have no preseason games. So just like whenever I learned of whatever that was a couple weeks ago, where it was just promo after promo after promo after promo with some music and

my arm! American Badass! If that's what we're about to get, I'm pumped. It's like the Olympics, that thing, this thing. The DNC, how many days does it go? I just found out these things exist.

I think it's all week. Yeah, three or four. Just like the RNC. Who's performing? I'm sure they're going to say who's performing. Probably Quavo, a good friend. I hope they, down in Atlanta, I did see Megan Thee Stallion has performed as well. I wish they'd keep it a surprise, though, you know?

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She was 17 and she was far from liberty. It was summertime in northern Michigan. Come on, AJ. That's Foxy's battle cry, isn't it? That might win Michigan right there well I hope not it's just a good strategy well I'll tell you what I'm excited to see the world figure out all the stuff that we can't because we're

too dumb to and boy I'm excited for these conventions this convention thing to happen because when that last one dropped into my life out of nowhere that was a treat that was a nice treat we got public speaking which I love watching And that last one dropped into my life out of nowhere. That was a treat. That was a nice treat. We got public speaking, which I love watching. I will watch people publicly speak.

Even if what they're speaking of is not of interest to me, I would like to see how the speaker decides to handle the moment, handle the situation, deliver message. Are they thinking of audience or thinking of self? Are they thinking of message? Are they thinking of delivery? Are they thinking of both? You can tell if somebody sucks at talking or not like very quickly and then once they start to showcase that they suck then i have that oh train wreck type thing like i kind of want to how do they get themselves out of this thing but then those people that can speak very well i'm like okay that's good promo right there that's good promo

and i had no idea this convention was what, 78 promos is pretty much what it was? Just promo after promo after promo after promo and then a little musical performance. And then we're going to the crowd, which is like the state fair. It was like you go to the fucking state fair and there's an interview. It was like, this convention

is maybe the greatest show. So the fact we got another one, I'm pumped about it. I'm'm pumped about it. I'm very pumped about it. Pretty long time. You would have thought these would be back to back. I thought that too. Well, they probably would have been. Yeah, what is that?

What happened? Is that normally how it goes? I do not know. I assumed that once the dropout happens, that it did kind of push back. He was feisty last night. I did see some clips. I was doing Monday Night Raw last night. Big Braun Strowman, that big son of push back. He was feisty last night. I did see some clips. I was doing Monday Night Raw

last night. Big Braun Strowman, that big son of a bitch is back. He came back and told that tsunami dealer Big Bronson Reed that he... Tsunami! Those things are devastating. That guy's a man possessed. He is, isn't he? They'd give him a leash.

That's good. I i mean you said it first time it happened a couple tranquilizers should be ready to go call the zoo wherever raw is next week and get some tranks because that big brunson raid once he sees red and like yeah good luck stop that's it and he just gets put on repeat. It's like Groundhog's Day. Wee-boom! And he's like, you need to go back up? He blacks out. And then wee-boom! You need to go back up? Wee-boom!

You need to go back up? Wee-boom! It's like, ip-ip-ip-ip-ip. This guy okay. And then he leaves. That's why they need him. Yeah. He comes back.

Right here. Randy's on his way to being the big show. Randy Orton is awesome. Holy shit. He's got to be three bills by now. He said 290, right? He's a monster. He said he was 290 whenever he came back. I think he came back.

I think he wasn't. I didn't follow. He was on SmackDown. He's awesome. He came back, though, and they were introducing him. And they said, weighing in at 265 pounds. And in the camera, he was like, more like 290 right now. And then you see him.

It's like, dude, his legs are massive. His legs are huge. He shot Ludwig Kaiser over the top rope last night with a leg kick. His thighs are this. I don't even know if he can wear pants. I don't know if they can fit Material in between his thighs He might have to wear trunks All the time, kilt potentially

I don't know how he He's awesome He punched And the way he operates in the ring Is just so like Methodical But it is like Everything that is professional wrestling. One punch

and he hears the entire crowd go one and he pokes up and he goes, okay, we're counting. Oh, I like that. Thank you. Boom, boom, boom. Then a full on count and in between every move, it's like a quick check of where everybody's at with everything. And then like, whoa, whoa, let's listen to

you hear, yeah, they're saying you suck and I'm great. Perfect, then we get back into it it's like, just in full control the entire time, and whenever you guys created yourself in WWE 2K, you basically described yourselves as Randy Orton yeah, I'm 6'5 280, 270

obviously, I got big thighs I'm handsome, I can do every move no problem at all, I want to be a 14 time world champion, I go by the legend killer. Apex Predator. I hear voices sometimes. In my head. Tell me if this makes sense to you, but every once in a while,

I hear voices. They talk to me. That whole place singing that is sweet. That started in France. Great intro. When they went over to France, they sang the entire song. They did it. And it was like, oh, that should be a new. They need to go back to France.

Last night, that crowd last night was awesome. Yeah, they were. Off the jump. That was a very good crowd. And I was trying to figure it out because down there in South Florida, and I don't know about Sunrise. And, you know, there's Sunrise. There's Fort Lauderdale.

There's Boca Raton. There's Miami. There's so many different towns. And they kept saying Fort Lauderdale. Everybody just kept saying Fort Lauderdale's Fort Lauderdale, there's Boca Raton, there's Miami, there's so many different towns. And they kept saying Fort Lauderdale. Everybody just kept saying Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale. I was like, I think we're in Sunrise. And somebody was like, who cares? I'm like, well, the people are probably from Sunrise.

I think this being in Sunrise was a big part of the Predators, right? Remember, because they put the arena is in Sunrise, Florida, as opposed to Fort Lauderdale. But I think Sunrise is potentially outside of whatever the case. The Miami Heat fans don't show up until what, like halftime? Yes. Yeah, if that. Late starters. That show is 8 to 11.

It is a late show. And as soon as that show started, place was packed, place was loud. It's almost like they were already in it. I can't think of them. They were fucking loud. Did you get to go to the elbow room? Did not stop by the elbow room. I did meet Larry who is

Arena Security. Predator social media lady. Very kind. They gave me the Kachuk jersey. Great jersey. Great jersey. Guitar. That was very kind of them to do that. Yep, there it is. Boom. Gave me that jersey. It was very good.

It's a fish. Got the Stanley Cup. Got the patch. Yeah. Kachuk's still been living his best life, taking the WWE Stanley Cup title around. Nice. Him and Tatum were in the back of a cart at a St. Louis Cardinals game. Sweet.

You know, Randy Orton threw the opening pitch a couple weeks ago for St. Louis Cardinals. Now they got Tatum and Kachuk throwing open the pitch. It's like St. Louis Cardinals got just celebs rolling through there. I don't know if anybody buys tickets to their games. They're a good fan base. They are. Cardinals are a very good fan base. People are obsessed with the Cardinals.

Yeah. For real. Where was the opening pitch that they showed on Monday Night Raw where it looked like it was in front of tens of people? Was it St. Louis? You're talking about Hawk Tua girl? That was Mets. I heard the Mets fans weren't happy.

People don't love her anymore. Who's people? Just the internet. And she said Young Gravy DM'd her, and then Young Gravy just posted the DMs between them two. It was actually kind of awesome. Oh, so Hawk Tua took her shot at Young Gravy by She posted the DMs between them two. It was actually kind of awesome. Also, Hawk Tua took her shot at Young Gravy by

saying that he... Oh, she tried to expose Young Gravy. Yeah, she said that he DM'd her and she was like, nah. And turns out Young Gravy was like, well, I'm just going to post these. And she DM'd him. It was a whole thing. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Hawk Tua knows Young Gravy.

Yeah, of course younger he's in a pod singer hawk to a merch did not disappear a lot of people thought when hawk to a happened that hawk to his dad would potentially your family would all just be like all right need to disappear from the world that's what people thought like people are saying that on the internet that was the initial this is and hawk to a hayley i think her name is like what that was a bar yeah it was hysterical still in it she's out there trying to raise money for foundations and stuff she's doing it right yeah she is yeah dogs for vets other people have been made famous out of nowhere you know and people have Hawk Tua girl just talking about you know doing her thing late night on the street

turning it into an entire run I say good on. Now, it doesn't mean you're necessarily going to have success, but good on you. Good on Hawk to it. Opening pitch for the Mets is a big deal. Did she throw a good ball? Yeah, it was a decent ball. How's that happen? How'd the Mets become the one? That's a good question. It's a big apple. Mets will pay anyone to do anything.

Kind of just grabbing. I mean, shit, the Grimace was the McDonald's guy was the fucking mascot of the franchise for a while there. might hold it down hold on we have a little correction here zito just pulled up some uh messaging young gravy you started chat hello ma'am hello sir two days later she was also 144 a.m you know don't know if it's uh her photos damn i just looked at your page You really out here be doing this shit LOL congrats

What's this shit by the way Oh that's just doing nothing I just went to your page I was for real trying to salute you for being a certified top champ Okay so they're caking here To be fair Gravy did not post the top of the top He just posted from the hello, sir.

Yeah, so what I'm saying is, it's good. Hawk Tua is trying to do something. I respect what Hawk Tua has turned this. That's Gravy football. Yeah, Young Gravy's saying. I don't know. Have we ever heard a Young Gravy song? I think I've seen him before.

I've heard a deep voice. Super deep voice. I want to say I heard one. Tampa Bay Bust Downs. It's a banger. Okay. To be clear, no Young Gravy. He's like an interview guy, like content guy.

That's where I know him. He's 6'8". Big dog. Young Gravy. He's a singer. Young Gravy. He kind of looks like, hmm. Okay, that is the guy I was thinking of, just making sure.

So it is the guy i'm probably thinking yeah yeah definitely you've seen him curly hair yeah exactly how about jack harlow no reference to young gravy but similar conversations i guess he's in the instigators yeah one of the stars he's good like that movie i like the instigators i did i haven't finished i haven't finished it it's good though so far they were in some spots i don't know how they got out of it. But sure, you know, there had to be some creative liberties, it seemed like. But I didn't mind the movie at all. Are you being genuine? Casey Affleck, funny.

Yeah. I don't think I'd ever seen Casey Affleck work before. But he was certainly the... He's a funny guy. Yeah, he's the man. He's good. He's deliberate. Try acting when you get shot like three times.

What's that, pal? Try acting when you get shot like three times. In real life or in a movie? In the movie. Okay, well, potentially two. Spoiler. That's a whole part of the whole conversation. Spoiler.

Yeah, but maybe not. Maybe not, though. Okay. You know. Oh, blanks. We don't know. We don't know. You tell me.

You know, that's the whole. Because Gump said it was the worst movie he's ever seen. Now, and if you're saying it's not bad, it actually means it's really probably actually really good. I didn't say worst movie. It just wasn't that good. Okay, what'd you hate about it's not bad, it actually means it's really probably actually really good. I didn't say worst movie. It just wasn't that good. Okay, what'd you hate about it? What did you hate about it?

I just had high, high hopes. I don't watch many movies. Probably first movie I've watched this year. Got it. Matt Damon, though, has been on quite a run of crop. Remember, it started with that Don sizing. What was the movie? Little People?

That was Don sizing. Don sizing. That movie's the worst movie I've ever watched in my entire life. They legit cut film out of it. That was so, that was the dumbest. I don't know how that became. I thought I didn't see it. Remember, I watched that movie three times

because I thought I was wrong with how terrible the movie was. Remember, we talked about this. This is years ago. I watch it once a year to see if they change it. Huh? Is it so bad it's good? Should I watch it? I've never seen it.

Should I watch it because it would be funny for me? You'll get to the end of it and just be like how are people that are supposed to make movies spending money on this movie and allowing this movie to be what it is you know especially with matt damon a part of it because matt damon you obviously think about all this stuff so downsizing was so bad like genuinely believe they fucked up think They edited out some scenes. They forgot they edited out some scenes. They put it out and it's like this is the movie now. Well, you got to make up and think about how the whole thing

happened. So I was kind of out on Matt Damon. I was kind of out on Matt Damon. Audience score was 25% for downsizing, which is lower than the tomato meter, 47%. Still rotten though. Mild manner therapist Paul Siyup and decided to undergo a process

in which scientists shrink people down to a miniature size to be able to live in a different world that they create that's like yada, yada, yada. Kind of cool, like an ant. It was a cool idea, cool concept. Matt Damon, too. I was very excited to watch it. It was like a long movie, too.

That thing's like two hours and some. Jeez. So I committed a lot to it. Is it a comedy? Is it supposed to be funny? Hmm. It is definitely a long movie, too. That thing's like two hours and some. Jeez. So I committed a lot to it. Is it a comedy? Is it supposed to be funny? Hmm. It is definitely a comedy. Or is it like dramatic, sad?

What is it? I don't know. And then he did that dark comedy one where there was, it was in like a neighborhood, and there was something like murder. Suburbicon. Yeah, that one. Suburbicon. There it is.

Jeez. That was another one. I haven't even heard of that. It's another Matt Damon movie. So Matt Damon, in my eyes, after those two movies, was like, okay, this guy, out of my life. This guy stinks. And this guy

has no idea what's a good movie. So when the Inskitters pops up, and it's his face right there. But then Matt Damon in Nike. Nike was great. Ford vs. Ferrari has been since then. Okay, I haven't watched that one. But the one where he was the corn syrup. Oh, The Informant.

The Informant. All time. Great movie. Great movie. Okay, so then I see The Informant, though, after those two. So Matt Damon starts coming back. So then the Ford-Ferrari thing starts coming back in my mind. You see The Martian?

Haven't watched it. Haven't watched. No, I've never seen The Martian. Have not watched those movies in a long time, though. the last thing i've really seen him do is that commercial where he says uh oh my god uh the future favors the brave yeah that's not what they fucking say they say the future favors the bold so it's like i've had an interesting relationship with this matt damon fella obviously so when i see the instigators with something that looks like ben affleck that isn't Ben Affleck,

and I see Matt Damon on it, I'm like, kind of torn. How's this going to be? So went in with the negative thoughts. Sure. Watch movie. Good movie. Matt Damon's back. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, come on. Are we being genuine here? Because as a Boston guy, first of all, I'm rooting for this movie more than anything. And the Boston people I've talked to said it is, quote, so, so, so, three so's, bad. So I don't know. I haven't seen it yet, so I can't make my own opinion. Well, what is it supposed to be?

What are we judging it against? This isn't the town, Con, man. Yeah, like don't go in expecting some instant classic. Casey Affleck and Matt Damon should be a banger in my eyes. And you're rooting for guys from Boston to do well Of course What are we judging it against? You're just judging it as a movie

It's an action movie I judge that against a rock movie Like an action That's all I need to know Expectations are everything When you have low expectations And something over delivers It's the greatest thing of all time some great action i guess we're comparing

it to fucking jungle cruise so yeah that was odd a couple nights ago it was pretty good but it's not jungle cruise i'm saying not jungle cruise i'm saying like fast and furious maybe a dude oh my god matt Matt Damon being compared to Fast and Furious. That's not my Matt Damon. That's not my Casey Affleck. That's live action, bro. That's not my... I mean, Casey Affleck, Matt Damon, we're talking about Oscar winners here, and we're comparing it to fucking Jumanji 2. It's a good...

The Jaw Guy? That's the Jaw Guy? Yeah. Yeah, it's a good... I would say good movie. Is that Big Rames? Are you expecting it to be like Oscar winning greatest movie of the year? No.

No, but that's what Matt Damon, like that's my Matt Damon. That's my Casey Affleck. Richard Jewell is in it. Yeah, Richard Jewell is in it. Walter Hatton. And I also saw Joaquin Phoenix is in it. Yes. Pretty important part of the whole thing.

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Joining us now is a man who has good taste in things. That's why he's currently working for us. He's also live back in the building covering the Pittsburgh Steelers, right where he's supposed to be like he has been for 22 straight years. Ladies and gentlemen, contributor wwe.com and correspondent for our program, Mark Aboli. Yeah, Mark. Mark, sorry we got caught in a conversation there about movies.

Have you ever seen The Instigators? It's out on Apple TV right now. Good movie. Even though people are burying it, I guess. It's a good movie, Mark. No, I really don't watch much movies at all anymore. It's basically the kid commandeering the TV to watch wrestling on YouTube, and that's about it.

I love that. Hey, had a good one last night. When are you going to start writing? Do you know? Yeah, Bash in Berlin. I think I'm going to be writing some stuff. Heading over? No.

You know, I've never been out of the country before, to be honest with you. I've been to about 39 different stadiums in the United States, but I've never been outside the country. Do you have a passport? Do you have a passport or no? It's expired. Yeah, I mean, that's classic. Tim McAfee was asked this morning. He has a

passport. It's expired. I mean, I did the whole song and dance. I'm not doing it again. I appreciate and respect that. We need to get you out of the country sometime, but since you're not out of the country, you're back at work. How does it feel to be back, boots on the ground, covering the Pittsburgh Steelers where you're supposed to be, Mark? How do you feel?

Very good, very good. First time we're back here at the Southside facility. They were up training camp for the past three weeks. A little chilly here in Pittsburgh today. Upper 60s, right next to the river here. I believe that might be the Monongahela Rivers, right next to the river here. I believe that might be the Monongahela River to my right. I believe it is.

So it's a little chilly, a little football weather in the air here. So it's very nice to be back. I was able to talk to a little bit of Artie Smith, a little bit of Calvin Austin and some of the boys inside the locker room. And they were well aware of my plight over the past three weeks. So that was quite interesting. A lot of people asking how you was quite interesting a lot of people asking how you doing a lot of people wondering was there a cake that you came back what was the celebration a sandwich maybe a sub a high five a hug what was it it was more of what the hell

happened to you tell me you're viral but yeah tell me you're you're beat writing on the internet now which is you have been doing but how people are seeing it which awesome news. We can't thank you enough for your two articles that you've posted. They've been awesome. Kabaly, it's been fun to read. It's been fun to read what you're doing out there. We'll have another one coming up here later today. So about the Artie Smith, a little bit of

Artie Smith and how the offense is being viewed, even though they've scored about what, nine points in eight quarters. So it's going to be quite interesting here. I know everybody's panicking in Pittsburgh. If you were here, you would think that the bridges are tumbling into the river right now.

It's so terrible. But the Steelers don't view it as that way quite yet. Okay, well, obviously you've got a lot of time before the season starts. We're just in preseason. They're showing things, trying to learn who they are. That's obviously not panic, but the answers have been panicked over the last few years because the team has not looked like a team that they can

celebrate into the playoffs in a deep way and maybe even win a Super Bowl. I think a lot of yinzers kind of give up their dream of winning a Super Bowl before the season even starts the last couple years. Last year had the most amount of hope because how preseason looked. Instead, it went the complete opposite direction. So I think the Inzers are a little pessimistic, naturally,

but this has certainly been heightened. Now, you talk about the Monongahela River, and obviously that's right over there. And you got the Allegheny, and that flows into the Ohio. Yeah, down there. Obviously bodies being pulled out of there. I think there's cars being pulled out of there, and the there's cars being pulled out of there.

And the river is good. The bridges aren't tumbling. But whenever you talk to Artie Smith, what does he tell you about what needs to happen? Is he talking about the offensive line? Is he talking about figuring out which quarterback's right? What is Artie Smith telling you? Or do we need to wait for the article before everything comes out? I'll tell you what Artie Smith says about the quarterbacks here.

Basically, I'm glad I'm not the head coach right now and don't have to make that decision of who's going to be the starting quarterback right now he goes i'll give my opinion but that's above my pay grade and that's interesting coming from a guy that's uh been a head coach the past three years he's just uh going about his business trying to get both of these guys ready. But it's really, they view it as a weird situation because Russell Wilson only practiced two or three days. He took about 21 snaps. And Arthur Smith said, you know what, he didn't have to be out there, especially later in that first half. But he wanted to. He wanted to get better. It doesn't matter if you're a one-year, a rookie, or a 14-year veteran.

You need to knock some rust off, and you need to go out there and go out and play. So he truly feels that Russell will be a little bit better moving forward here, not like much of any of it was his fault against the Bills. I mean, when you're facing third and 14s and third and 10s and getting sacked three times and 21 snaps that's pretty hard for anybody to overcome. So they're not panicking they're just trying to get their stuff in order and figure by the time they get to week one all their stuff in order will then lead to a successful offense. And obviously you're only going to get better as the year goes on.

And what they look like week one is that, I tweeted about this in the moment whenever I saw this play happen. It's like I hadn't even fathomed the Russell Wilson deep ball to George Pickens, like being added to our life. Because if Russell Wilson can't throw them, which what every stats person was telling us about last year, Russell Wilson's having a good year. That's literally Orlovsky, Hembo, everybody.

He can still move it down the field. George Pickens can make absurd catches like that and has literally since he got to Pittsburgh, every single training camp practice. I think you told us his rookie training camp, you were like, it would be more shocking if George Pickens didn't make an absurd catch every single day than if he did make a crazy catch.

You still feel that way? And how do you feel about the Pickens and Wilson potential future, Kaboli? Yeah, I mean, look at that right there. I mean, we're talking about a ball where he has to contort his body, and he's literally, what, a toenail away from getting it in? All of a sudden, there's a different view of the Steelers and Russell Wilson and his offense if he's able to get that second foot down by, you know, a millimeter right now. But yeah, I mean, Russell Wilson throws an absolute tremendous deep ball, and that's something they pretty much have lacked

all of last year. I mean, Kenny Pickett was good at some things that he was able to be good at. Throwing the ball deep down the field wasn't necessarily one of that. So you're able to run the ball, play action, hit some of those big balls down the field, and all of a sudden that changes the whole outcome of the game. The only thing you got to worry about is once you get to September 8th, once you get to Atlanta, once you get to a defensive line like Raheem Morris, a defensive mind like Raheem Morris, do you absolutely do the Bill Belichick and take that guy completely out of the game and say Calvin Austin, Van Jefferson, Scotty Miller, you have to beat us. I don't know if that's possible right now.

So that's where the IU stuff comes in. So some of the other guys are going to have to step up. Roman Wilson's looking like he's almost back to being healthy. So that should help a little bit. But they're definitely going to need a number two type of receiver to take the pressure off of George Pickens because, I mean, you can take any guy out if you want to. Bill Belichick actually said yesterday, it's funny you say that,

because he's kind of the one that created the whole, we'll just double with our second and third corner, your number one guy. Then your number two guy, we're going to put our number one corner on. So now all of a sudden, you've got to go down to your third option. And if you're able to do that, okay, you beat us then. And now everybody is seemingly able to do that. He actually mentioned yesterday,

because of the amount of heat that Russell was getting, he was talking about how they need a number two wide receiver, bad. That offensive line needs to figure it out. He said that he got a guard getting beat on inside leverage on one of these like the way Bill was viewing it he was not happy and thrilled about it all even though Russell's getting figured out we got time to get it sorted though we got time to get it sorted tone has a question for you Mark yeah watching that highlight and watching that game uh there was one question for me and it was about Broderick Jones um the brace on his arm do we know what's going on injury-wise there and how long it's been going on and is that why he is not playing well is he going to get moved to left tackle when fatano comes back

because i believe jerry dulek reported that thought was going to start at right tackle what's the deal with broderick and uh is that going to be a situation all year long with that arm? Yeah, I mean, Broderick didn't talk after the game. He said he had to go see the doctor, so that tells you a little bit there. But he's had a brace on that elbow for probably the better part of training camp. I think he has some sort of a thumb injury as well. Not 100% sure about that. But whenever Fotonu comes back, and it should be by the regular season,

where we haven't really gotten much of an update right now, they'll switch those two guys. Roger Jones will go over more to his natural left tackle, and Fotonu will go to right. Dan Moore will be that swing guy. Obviously, Zach Frazier now will start at center with Herbig out, basically, for the season with a rotator cuff. And they've got two veteran guards.

I think that will be fine. You look at the past two years, Tone, their offensive line struggled early on, but Pat Meyer, their offensive line coach, was able to be able to turn that around within the four or five games. Well, everybody in Pittsburgh, they hate everybody. Right? It doesn't matter. They hate Mike Tomlin.

Probably. They hate Tomlin. They hate me. They hate everybody. You can't deny what Pat Meyer has done with that offensive line in the second half of the past two years. They've been absolutely flawless. And you would have to figure when you have such young guys, like Frazier Votano and even Broderick Jones,

that eventually with some time they will get to that point. Yeah, I hope so because I would like to see Steelers fans have fun for a year on the offensive side because it's just been – and we don't like saying it because you talk about Jesus Christ and everything. Of course. Seven's last couple years, that offense was – we knew nowhere near going to be able to win a Super Bowl. The thing is with Seven was, even his last year, he was not bad.

You probably could take that right now. Agreed. Maybe not right now. Not going to win a Super Bowl, though, the way the offense was. Not Seven couldn't win a Super Bowl, but the offense was he was getting it, and that was like two-yard. There's that video of him falling after throwing. It was 11-0, but we knew.

Yeah, you couldn't win a Super Bowl with what was happening. Whenever the push came to shove in the playoffs with that particular offense, not that that was Ben Roethlisberger's fault. I'm just saying what the offense was. Snap, got out. I mean, it wasn't even a – you talk about Bill Belichick, but you face any defense coordinator in a playoff, so the game matters. It's like sitting on that shit, rushing that, we're going the other way,

not going to win a Super Bowl. But at least we were watching Ben Roethlisberger do his thing, so at least we get a chance to see seven, you know, kind of do his thing. Some might have blamed that on Matt Canada. Some might have blamed that on the offensive line. He was in self-preservation mode at that time. Let me get rid of the ball or I'm going to get my head knocked off. Bingo.

So what I'm saying is there's been years now where there hasn't been like a we have an offense that could win a Super Bowl. Like in a big game in the playoffs, we have an offense that could do it. There hasn't been that feeling around Pittsburgh. So now will any ends or ever feel that even if they had it, probably not, goes back to your point, they hate everything? But it is like some hope would be great early in the season. Since 2017 in the Killer Bees.

That was the last time. Yeah. I mean, they lost. I think they lost the AFC Championship game in Boston, right? Yes, they did. Yeah. Lev was hurt. AB got hurt.

Well, AB went live on his Instagram after they won the Divisional. That's right. They kicked ass. Yeah, Lev was hurt. AB got hurt. Well, AB went live on his Instagram after they won the divisional. That's right. They kicked the ass. Yeah, yeah. He saw the long snappers and their naked butt. Yeah, I remember. That's not John Maynard. That happens sometimes.

You don't know what's in the backdrop. Lev also got hurt on, like, the first drive, so that did not help. Speaking of Boston, Boston Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Kaboli, are you going to try and count the amount of gum pieces chewed by head excuse me special teams coordinator danny smith this year we saw him on the sidelines during the preseason game and it looked like he actually had 20 pieces of gum yeah i mean you gotta love danny i think he told me one time a couple years ago that somebody sent him gum and wanted to sponsor his gum addiction and it wasn't the brand he liked so he denied it so i'm not quite sure what brand

that is but he can sure shove the shit out of the gum he's got to brush his teeth though be careful with all that gum chewing you don't want to you know what the dentist sugar uh danny likes to use colorful words. I guess that's all about special teams coaches. What special teams coaches don't like to use colorful words? You've got to love Danny Smith. I think he does a very good job for what he does here, but he's a character too.

I saw a lot of Steelers fans saying he's got to figure it out, you know, on the field. See? To that, there it is, exactly. Yeah, you've got to figure it out. With this new return, if anybody actually does it, and Pittsburgh might be forced to because you can't kick a touchback maybe with the way the

weather gets late in the AFC North. I will be excited to see what Danny Smith does. It's been around a long-ass time. It's got Cam Johnston now punting for him. Boswell misses one this past week, but that ain't going to happen. That's preseason football. You have a returner, you got a punter, you got a kicker, you got a chance

to have a great group. I'm excited for Danny going in. Danny's always great. They block multiple punts a year. I don't know what anyone who's got a problem with Danny, you come talk to me. It's been a while since a long return, right? You wrote about that in one of your articles. It's been a long time. They've even got all pro

special teamers in Myles Killebrew as well. I mean, he's the one that had a couple blocks together last year as well. Gunnar Olszewski. You know, it's a tough Gunnar Olszewski. Whoa, he's all pro. He's all pro. Whoa, watch your mouth. Whoa, whoa, he came here.

I think he came. Was that last year he was here? He was an absolute star in training camp. Yeah, but he passed balls. Disappeared. Yeah, but I think first pump, I think, was a turnover. That, and then he caught the kickoff. He made sure he got both feet inbounds.

And a half to six or whatever. Yeah. Hey, that's going to happen sometimes. Gunnar Rusevski football. Yeah, bingo. He's a hard-nosed son of a bitch. Yeah, just like Mark Caboli. Go ahead, AJ.

Caboli, what happens? Which quarterback starts the season, and do you think whoever starts, are they there week 10, 12, 14? How long is the leash? You sound like Sports Talk Radio in Pittsburgh right now. Thank you. Who's going to start?

Double M? Madden, he's the one. He loves the Pirates. I mean, he's a stealer. Same difference. He hates them both. one. He loves the Pirates. I mean, he's Steelers. Same difference. He hates them both. Yeah, loves the Pittsburgh Pirates. Oh, yeah. How could you not?

I mean, you couldn't because they stink. You know, AJ, I just don't know where the hate comes from Russell Wilson, to be honest with you. I think he's everything that they want and everything that they need right now. He's not going to. Everything I wanted. He's not coming to. Everything I wanted. He's not going to turn the ball around. Everything I needed.

So tell me what to do now. When I want Russ Wilson. He has everything they wanted and everything they needed. I have no idea what song that is. Come on. Oh, boy. What is it? Is it like the Backstreet Boys or something?

Close. Almost there. Close. Who's the other one? O-Town. O-Town. No, O-Town. I loved O-Town.

Hey, that TV show, right? That's why everybody... Yes, it was great. Were they the You Plus Me Equals Us crew? Was that it? No. That TV put us together show? Making the Band?

Making the Band. Well, that was cool. Making the Band. What was happening? Wasn't that... Yeah. Who did that show? Who did that show?

He did it. Oh, that was... Oh, that was Puffy? Oh, AJ's... Oh, jeez. AJ, you know him. I need to go watch the show, actually. I never watch. That was NSYNC, I do believe.

It's hard to... They both had bangers. I thought that was the kids. Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, NSYNC. Pittsburgh's. Backstreet Boys. Pittsburgh's Christina Aguilera. Hell yeah.

She's best singer out of all of them, too. We all understood that because she was from Pittsburgh. Everybody understood that. Then there was the Lachey Group. What were they called? Body Grease 98. Yeah, 98 Degrees. 98 Degrees.

Jessica Simpson had a little bit of a run there. O-Town, I guess, did have some songs that AJ remembers. I think AJ met the guy from O-Town. Is that what happened? Is he related to him? No. That's probably it. 98 Degrees guys are from Cincinnati.

The Chicken of the Sea. Yeah, exactly. Nick Lackey. Lachey. Lachey. Okay. A little respect, please, for Nick. There's nothing wrong with O-T Yeah, exactly. Nick Lackey. Lachey. A little respect, please. There's nothing wrong with O-Town, AJ.

Nothing. I bet someone could dive into them. I'm sure they're still touring. They do those mega tours where that whole group right there just is like, well, not in sync. Well, that's because JT's able to sell out wherever he wants. The world tour is ruined. How about when he gets arrested, then the next night, straight out?

Rock out, buddy. Eyes look good. Yeah, they actually might be at the casino this weekend in Pittsburgh. Rivers? O-Ton? O-Ton down there at the Rivers? Okay. No, but there's a lot of bands that are looking for places to play

end up at the Rivers. So put it that way. Hey, the casinos are a great place. A lot of people getting a lot of gigs from casinos because got a lot of people in casinos that might be bored of losing their money at the slot machine.

Hey, we got insert name of act here that you might have heard of right down the street, right down the hallway. It's good play. Barth Brooks. Giving people a lot of work. Exactly.

I appreciate that. All right, Kaboli, we're going to get the's a good play. Barth Brooks. Giving people a lot of work. Exactly. I appreciate that. All right, Kaboli, we're going to get the hell out of here. What are you having for lunch? What did you already eat? I had some chicken, I believe. We had it earlier. Our practice is going on right now. I'm going to go see you out there and see how Russell's throwing the ball a little bit.

A little bit of locker room, and that's about the call of the day. A little writing going on and having fun. By the way, I didn't answer AJ's question, I believe. It's going to be Russell Wilson. He's going to start. Period. Let's just stop talking about it. Put it on the ticker, ladies and gentlemen. Correspondent

for the Pat McAfee Show, contributor, WWE. Hey, real quick, on that note, Ty has a question. Kaboli, who the fuck's going to deal with Big Brunson Reed, huh? I mean, are you thinking about maybe dusting off the singlet and getting in there and twisting it up with him? I mean, no one can stop this guy. It's an epidemic.

It's an issue. Braun. Braun. Is that how they do it? Yeah. Braun. He's a monster. He Yeah. He's a monster. He is.

He's a monster. I see your dirty, no good stinking Dominic McStereo was a little trashy last night, huh? Yeah, he's always trashy. That's what dumpsters do. What in the world? Street trash. This guy, he said one-on-one. We all knew.

Everybody knew it. As soon as it came out of his mouth, I'm going to take on Damian Priest one-on-one tonight. Just me. We all knew he was lying. No, you don't. He would never do that. Big Bronson Reed, though, hopefully that one big son of a bitch, Braun Strowman, is able to handle it.

Because if not him, then who? Adam Pearce hasn't been able to figure it out. No, he hasn't. Who I love. Who I love. I love Adam Pearce. The Miz is just taking beatings, you know. Still?

The Miz is getting all emotional, too. He said that me and Cole were mocking the impact of the tsunami. No, we weren't. That's not true. We were telling you the stats. We were told from scientists. I thought Miz was going to win last night, too. Did you?

I thought he was going to go over. He had a hell of a run there for a bit. You might have to dip back in a little bit and bring back Brock Lesnar. Oh, whoa. You could take out some Bronson. What? Hey, put that in your first article. Get him out.

Put that in your first article. Get him back. Write about it. Write about it. You can handle the big man. Maybe you do write about all the people that you think throughout the history of the WWE that might be able to stop this big Bronson Reed tsunami that is just King Kong Bundy maybe George Animal Steel maybe I mean Paisano from Pittsburgh obviously Bob Backlund well Bruno that's right all right we can't wait

to read Big John Studd was from Butler PA so Big John Stud Studd? How do you know he's from Butler, PA? I didn't know that. Hey, when was the last time you went to Kennywood, Mark? When was the last time you went to Kennywood, Mark? It's been a while. I see they have some kind of promotion. They're going to be open until all night or midnight now or something. That's not good.

What are you talking about? Let the bums in. 25 cents a pop. You guys need them. Oh, you know what? They got those great Christmas lights around Christmas time, man. Oh, there you go. Joe DiNardo.

Every time Joe DiNardo talked, you thought there was going to be about eight inches of snow outside. That's two people now let's all relax please oh the doppler all right you did it's the donardo doppler everybody's using it we don't need your shit mark uh next article coming out on x tonight? Sometime? Yes, sir. What time? 7-18. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, see his shit at 7-18. Mark Caboli.

Yeah, Mark. I don't know what just happened. I would like to learn, but that is not... Starting to learn a lot more. Yeah, that's a tough look. Listen, I don't like it, but I don't go too far with the Kenny Woods slander from you. You fucking don't even think about Joe. Thank you. Mark Caboli might be able to let it slide because he's in the middle of his critique era.

Don't even fucking think about Joe. We have never considered that, but for Caboli, for AQ first to start with that. Look at the sources. What are we even talking about here? Kaboli is one of the most, if not the most, respected journalists that has ever worked at this company. So who am I to question what

a guy who's been in the business for 22 years? I think Kaboli has a little jealousy issue with DiNardo because Kaboli, who had been covering the Steelers for a decade plus, he and DiNardo walked into a Giant Eagle one time, and nobody even knew Caboli was there. They went right to DiNardo.

I could see that. So since that moment, fucking Caboli's been out. And AQ, we don't even need to talk about the deep-seated bullshit AD yet. He's a Penn State guy, too. I figure Joe DiNardo's son might have pinned Caboli in high school. He probably did. There's a chance. We never know. Alright, let's get the fuck out of here. What a show today, boys. What a show.

Whatever, everybody. Speaking of Penn State, look out week one. Okay? And Morgantown. New sheriff. Have you seen what Neil Brown looks like right now? Let alone listen to the words he

says and how much he has his team's back. Just look at what Neil Brown is showing up to this particular college football season. He was on with Maury McGee this past weekend and I'll tell you what, if you're in the Big 12, it is time to start shitting your pants.

This is a new fucking Neil Bryan. I texted one of your colleagues at ESPN the other day. They did this top 100 players list in college football. And I'm like, man, how are you still, how do you have a job in your decided 100 list when, like, Garrett Green's not on it? Because I don't get it. We got a tackle, Wyatt Milam, that's going to be either a first

or an early second-round pick. He wasn't on the list either. And I'm just wondering, did you not get the W as you were looking at players? Because West Virginia, you know, like, did you not get all the way down to our names? That's a good question. Goatee, Neil Brown, and Meyer can flag on his forehead. We're about to fucking run the Big 12. You know, Mattias, have you seen Gigi run wild ever before?

100 players better than Gigi? Oh, okay. Come on now. You got a first-round draft pick. First second? Early second, please. Early. He's got New England written all over him.

He's got good goatee right now. Hey, I'm back on him. It's like he woke up one morning. He's like, oh, I don't have to have a bowl cut and be clean. All right. What's this guy's deal, AJ? He looks awesome. He does.

He looks great. He looks great. Sick. A la Toby Keith. Is Ohio State worried? Do you think Ryan Day, Chip Kelly, everybody in – About the Mountaineers? Yeah, when you see that shit coming out.

When you see Neil Brown – Yeah. After the silent disco, I think that's when you see that shit coming out. When you see Neil Brown. Yeah. After the silent disco, I think that's when they started shaking in the boots. All right. I won't handle this slander anymore. We're getting out of here. I think it looks like fun. I honestly am not knocking it.

It looks like a fun time. Are they all listening? We all hear the same stuff, right? Duh. Yeah, same song. I think there could have been multiple channels. Yeah, I think it could change country. And then there was some Haas music, I believe. I want to try.

There's meditative stuff, too. That was in the corner of the club. The weirdos that are scared to get on the dance floor. Yeah. A lot of weirdos just hanging out. Yeah, I think Chip Kelly was like, Coach Day, don't you think we should start preparing for West Virginia? And Coach Day was like, hell, Coach,

the only place we're going to see them is at State. But I think they are. Let's get out of here. Everybody needs to relax. Garrett Green is about to run wild on Penn State week one. And Morganton. I'll put them on the map, man, for real. I'm sorry.

This isn't even about West Virginia. Just, like, the thought of Chip Kelly asking Ryan Day, like, hey, coach, you worried about fucking Purdue this year? Just his thoughts, like, yeah, you know what? I'm worried about every fucking game because if we lose one, they're going to start – they're going to burn my fucking house down. I've got to pay you. I've got to pay the D coordinator.

We've got to pay all these players. We've got the biggest salary cap out of anybody. We've got Trestle and Urban coming out saying this is the greatest team of all time. And guess what? We don't win by more than two scores against some of these teams. They're going to want to fire my fucking head. My kids can't even go to school. The pressure that is on Ryan Day is absurd.

And then Tony Diggs goes, you know what? Let's add a little bit more. Ohio State should not, he might as well say here, instead of might not. They might not give up a TD in the first five weeks of the entire season. That's reality, AJ. That is a reality of a situation with this Ohio State team this year. Yeah, especially what they gave up 11 points a game last year. Is that what you said?

Yeah, yeah. A lot of the replies were like – actually, most of the replies were, I was D, we'll get one. Okay, so – There's a chance. So the defense won't give up the touchdown. The offense of Ohio State will actually give up the touchdown. But in all honesty, like Akron and West Mac schools,

they probably won't, and then Marshall probably not. It's tough to shut everybody out. Michigan State and Iowa were both like 130th in offense last year. Now they do have different coordinators, different offensive staffs this year. Well, different quarterbacks too, right? The quarterback is back for Iowa. No, there's a chance he's not going to win the job. We'll see.

Kay McNamara, I told you, he's got to show me something. He's got to show me something, son. You've got another guy who, let's just say, there's a Bl to win the job. We'll see. Cade McNamara, I told you, he's got to show me something. He's got to show me something, son. You've got another guy who, let's just say, there's a Blitzkrieg coming to the Big Ten. What's his name? His name is Iowa. We don't know who the quarterback is yet. Who's the backup?

Yeah, Brandon Sullivan. Sully's a dog. Yeah, Sully's a dog transferring in from Northwestern. Said, fuck this place. I basically got the interim head coach a head coaching job. I want to go play for Tim Lester. I want to go play for this guy's offense. A lot of shots, explosives, crazy motions, movements.

Basically, you're not going to know what you're getting with Iowa's offense this year. High flying, huh? Is that what you're saying? High flying. Caleb Brown, Ohio State transfer, who? How about Marco? Marco Lanes. He ain't going to play this year. He's a good boy, though. He's second string. Yeah, I don't think that's... No, that's not right.

Bo Stevens. Oh, it's just the people on the roster? Yeah. Brennan Sullivan in the gold. I love that. New addition, transfer, or freshman. That's rare to see. Well, Cade McNamaraara was one of those last year it didn't work out because he got an injury and then him coming back was the reason why you guys were going to be great this year no no no we're going to be great because we return every old lineman i may have said that that's just me getting excited and then you watch some of the practice footage and yeah kade's struggling he doesn't look fucking great okay he's going up against a good defense. He is going up against

a great defense, not a good defense. We got Caleb Brown who, I don't know, he's a transfer from Ohio State. He did get arrested for a dewey in the offseason and he's apologized to the fans and said, I can't wait to prove to you guys on the field. Alright, I'm sorry I let you down. You didn't let us

down, son. Not yet. Not yet. We have a couple pops driving home from dinner. I was going to say, I've been to Iowa City before. You know how many Deweys I could have gotten there? Thousands of times. Shout out

Mike Gundy. In 2024, you cannot be getting... He'll be on the show tomorrow. Coach Mike Gundy will be on the show tomorrow. Oklahoma State Gundy will be on the show tomorrow. Oklahoma State's head coach will be joining us. Our first conversation with him, I cannot wait. That is going to be a thing. And once again, we'd like to reiterate the fact,

can't be driving while intoxicated in 2024. Nope. Too many options right now. Back in the day, though, it was a much different world. And if you're young, I don't think you'll ever understand. And if you come from a place where they don't drive much, like big cities and stuff like young, I don't think you'll ever understand. And if you come from a place where they don't drive much like big cities and stuff like that, I don't think you fully understand. There was people back

in the day that when they were told that driving drunk was illegal, they were confused. That is what... They were pissed. That is not that long ago. So we do not agree with their sentiment. But that is the reality of a situation in a lot of

places so now in 2024 can't have it yeah people people are going all right i get it i can't do 10 shots and drive and they said no beer beer too you're telling me i can't have this sitting in their car you're telling me i can't bullshit one beer well you could probably have one but it's going to be close well of course i'm not just going to have one. I ain't drinking just one beer. I got a sixer. I'm going to drink those on the way home, okay? Worked a long day here. Gabe, for you.

For you. For you, damn it. Don't be doing it. Don't do it. Too many options. I'm happy they figured that out. Technology has made that better. Click it or take it.

That too. Of course. I'm not getting into that one. Technology has made that better. Click it or take it. That too. Of course. I'm not getting into that one. Also, it's not a ticket technically. You can't get pulled over for that. Yes, you can in Indiana. Really?

You can get pulled over for being on your phone. You can get pulled over for anything. You're looking at your phone. Bro, there was a commercial. When they launched this click it or take it thing, and I used to be a pretty loud critic of the i gotta put my seatbelt on because when i was growing up i met a kid whose uncle i believe either uncle's friend or uncle ended up getting into a car accident car caught on fire wasn't able to get yeah the traffic melted thing melted so wasn't able to get out so that i don't the story how it was

related to me was he was like worst case scenario worst case imaginable so that literally stuck with me this is when i was like a kid and i'm like okay so i'm never gonna get stuck in there and uh i was against seatbelts for a long time which is not great because all the other studies that they tell you but also from what i heard firsthand experience, there's also an opportunity that that could happen to you. And that sounds like literally the worst situation that you could ever have. I am back to being a seatbelt person. I wear seatbelts now. I feel like such an adult whenever I do it, but I get on my motorcycle. I only have to wear a helmet. So just tell me how it makes sense. You know, tell me... I have to have glasses on, cover my eyes, which makes sense, and I should, and you should if you're on a bike.

But I don't have to have a helmet. But if I'm in my car that is built like a tank, and it actually has been used as a tank in past warfare, I have to have a... I don't know how. I just don't know how it works. I'm a seatbelt person. I think people should use a seatbelt. But also, I don't know if that should be something you could get pulled over for.

That feels like something. Yeah, I thought it was a secondary ticket. I didn't think you could be pulled over for a seatbelt. Oh I think people should use a seatbelt. But also, I don't know if that should be something you could get pulled over for. That feels like something. Yeah, I thought it was a secondary ticket. I didn't think you could be pulled over for a seatbelt. Oh, yeah, you can, yeah. Always a worry of mine. But I wore the tank top a lot, so it looked like I felt like someone that cops driving by. They can't. That's like the sticker on your license plate.

Oh, yeah. That needs to be up to date. Yes. Back lights need to be good. Let's not let them catch you with the phone up. Let's not get that. Never want to get pulled over. Thank you to the police thank you please thank you please but never want to get any i have like a yeah let's not get let's just not even raise any alarms yeah

agree yeah i mean you could get pulled over for anything like you're wearing that boston hat they get pulled over they come by with their billy club hit the back taillight out hey boston your taillights out so not everybody does that obviously but there has been certainly stories of that happening in the past and the good cops hearing those stories obviously because that paints them all as bad so what tone just said there has happened but it is not also in a movie they have been walking tall okay all right that's a documentary which sure yep about the rock yeah is that they go into the jungle there? that's a rundown

he's against guns in that one so what are you guys comparing The Instigators to? I still haven't seen it I'm just saying you said I went into it like this is The Rock, it's like a movie like The Rock no I never, I went in low expectations because Matt Damon, remember

the hit or miss factor but then as I'm watching it, you quickly realize what it is. And it's like, okay, this is this style of movie. And then you get in and it's good. Casey Affleck, good. Very, very good. Yeah, he's a great actor. But like recent Matt Damon for me is the Nike movie, the Jordan movie in the fucking Ford

versus Ferrari. That's why I was thinking like, oh, okay, here we go. The Great Wall. Yeah, but you're from Boston too. That's what I'm saying. I'm home or rooting for him. Yeah. For me, it's like, hey, Boston, here we go. Yeah, but you're from Boston, too. That's what I'm saying. I'm home or rooting for him, yeah. For me, it's like, hey, Boston guy, get the fuck off my TV if you're going to let downsizing hit.

You're going to let that hit. Never saw that one. A lot of people downsizing followed by Suburbicon would have been career-eaters. Yeah, back-to-back. That is what I – I never heard of Suburbicon, honestly. Me neither. It's supposed to be a comedy, I think.

It's dark here. The Martian's good, though. I like the Martian. Love that. I haven't seen it. I'm going to be a comedy i think it's dark the martian's good though i like the marshall i haven't seen i'm gonna check it out but i'm back in on matt damon because of the instant hell yeah i'll watch this tonight all right sweet if this goes in you're gonna think it's great okay yeah oh no oh this one oh it felt good oh 20 people 500 hours okay 25 people 500 hours Wow Oh, my God. Shucks. Thought it was it. I know.

It feels good. It looks real good. That FIBA ball. I want to go in. 25 people, $500. If this FIBA ball, international basketball, which is created by an association that might be some greedy corporate fat cats. Yeah, they're corrupt.

Potentially. That three-on-three situation, kind of the way it's unfolding and how they have a professional three-on-three league. I love it. They're scared. And they run the Olympics for three-on-three situation, kind of the way it's unfolding and how they have a professional three-on-three league. I love it. They're scared. And they run the Olympics for three-on-three. And we have a professional three-on-three that just had their champion. Did you see the highlight?

Did you see the way that ended? The game winner. And then it was almost a fight. Yeah. It's a physical game. Yeah, very. Yeah, we don't think they could potentially go to the fucking Olympics and beat all these teams.

Okay. Okay. And we got all those people saying, it's a different sport. It's a different thing. It's like, okay, we got six foot eight guys that are fighting tooth and nail for this fucking big three championship. You don't think they would absolutely. I mean, look at this shit. Oh, yeah.

This is game one in point. Foul, foul, foul. Three fouls there. Not called. Count it. Game over. And then what? And then what?

Well, we're going to do our dance. Oh, they cut it off right there. Winning team there. Sprints to the other team's bench, starts flipping their chairs on there and pushing like full on. Was that Corey Brewer? Yes, it was. Yeah, Corey Brewer would go over there and dominate.

I was going to say. He's played for like 14 years. So what we're saying, FIBA, is let's put our swords down, okay? And let's let the greats be great. If this ball goes in, they're going to let the big three guys into the Olympics next year. Okay. Do you think NFL guys

can beat out flag football guys? I did see old buddies say, we earned it. Now listen, I respect the amount of work that you all have put in into flag football. We have got a chance to enjoy the shit out of flag football on multiple occasions. When they had

the flag football championships on NFL Network just a couple years ago, I think they had the finals here in Indianapolis at Butler University. We got to see it. The sport is obviously fantastic. What it's doing for the sport of football is great. Younger people are getting into it. People that maybe don't want to take any contact. Girls are able to play.

It's now going to be in the Olympics. What the flag football community has done is remarkable for the sport of football. With that being said, we're talking about the Olympics. You don't just get to earn, you fucking earn your spot on there, okay? And if old buddy who said that we have grown this game and we're the ones that deserve to be the

ones that represent the United States, if you make the team, I think you certainly do, but they're going to have quite an advantage. They know the rules. They know the strategy. They know the move. The move is this one. The move is this one.

The move is this one right here. So if NFL guys can't get that move, the flag football guys are going to have an advantage over them anyways, but to just act like you get it because you've played it long enough. You don't think Tyree Kill would play flag football if he wasn't busy? I don't know. Playing in the fucking NFL, pal? That's not how this goes

You're trying to win, dude It's our fucking sport The people that built up Team USA They went up to Canada and fucking embarrassed us They spent a lot of time trying to build that up too Let's get them the fuck out Now I'm not saying flag football is saying people Because the flag football players that we watch on NFL Network

Should have quite an advantage, AJ Legitimately, because it's a different sport, different run, different moves, different everything. So I think they should have an advantage. But just to – I didn't hear how he said it, but I just read the quote saying, we deserve spots on the team. It's like, if you earn them, yeah, that's welcome to the football team. Best players go. Best players go.

You make the squad, you got it. Bingo. Earn it. Earn it. You got it. You should have an advantage, too. You know the sport much better. But if Tyreek Hill wants to play for the United States of America,

there's only one of those. This guy's a quarterback. He's saying all this stuff, right? Yeah. I want Lamar Jackson. I think he'd be pretty fucking good at flag football, too. I want Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, he'd also be pretty good.

You know what? Let's put them both in. I want Josh Allen. Oh, there we go. He'd be all right. So he could try out against all these guys. Exactly. Because we're representing the United States of America. And if he wins... He could be all-time center.

No! We don't know. We don't know how he is as a center. If that's where he wants to make the team, cool. Could be OC because the strategy's different. There you go. Head coach. No, I'm assuming we will have some masterminds. If McVay wants to get into this. United States of America in Los Angeles. Andy Reid.

And I guess they're saying there's been some discussions in the NFL at high level on whether or not players are allowed to play in the Olympics or not. They are. We're not fucking, let's not overthink this, NFL. This is not the NHL. The NHL did this, and it hurt hockey, I think, personally. So we do not, you let the guys go play for the United States of America in our sport. What's that? Now we're thinking about it.

Boy, is the NFL going to risk one of their ponies going to the flag football and just cutting wrong? Can't be this short-sighted. I agree. We're talking about gold medals here. I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the NFL. We're talking about the sport of football.

We're talking about the NFL. We're talking about this dream team type shit. They're only missing practice, too, though. It's different. If they had to miss games, they would never let that happen. They already promoted it too with Jalen Hurts. And the NFL was running flag football stuff right now.

Let's add just regular football to the Olympics. Bingo. I would like that. I would like that. That'd be fun. And let's remember, if any of these aliens show up, what will we always be able to beat them in? Fucking football. So don't ever worry about them taking over. We'll do an Oklahoma drill and fucking die on their back.

Well, they're not able to go on their back. They have four legs. Well, you don't think we'll find leverage on the motherfucker? You don't think Aaron Donald will figure it out? He will. Sick of it. Sick of it. So, FIBA, here's to you.

Yep. Being on the same page with the rest of the world, let's just find out who the best is. Yeah, yeah. That's what with the rest of the world, let's just find out who the best is. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to find out who the best is. Let's do it. If this goes in, 25 people, $500.

All I got to do is repost this and say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay you. Fuck. It's not going in. That ball stinks. This ball, though, is a good one. Okay. Oh. 25, 5. Oh yeah.

Is there a weight disparity a little bit? So FIBA's trying to fuck with the balls too. Yeah, it's so small. So like when Durant's over there just burying the shots, like, oh, the ball. Steph Curry there early, right? Yeah. Had to figure it out. So later on.

And then when he figured it out, he's like, oh, the ball is stupid. Of course it is. It's FIBA. Yeah. Got it. Sorry, nobody wins. It sucks. We're out of here.

That's the end of it. Big football season. Stay up. That was a good snap. That was. It was. Stay up. Oh, how short?

Real short? A little short. Just need higher. There you go. There you go. Oh. Too high. Too high.

Not just less power. Too low. Right in between. Say out. Oh. Good looking snaps. Say out. Oh, yeah.

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Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change their life. That's a shame. We need to make one of those. Those are good snaps. Add that to the record. Those are going to be 50 for 500 people.

That's a tough one. Yeah, very tough. Small hoop. It's the hardest one for sure. Yeah, the angle. I mean, maybe into the net. No, no. That's too easy.

I think I've already done that. That's really far. Yeah. Yeah, it is. That's tough. Yeah, but I think with the velocity you're just showing. You're also doing it from an elevated position. There it is.

That's a good snap. Yeah, I mean, you push that thing back another 15 yards, and I think you'd still be okay. Yeah, there it is. Yep, there it is. So, like, worst-case scenario. There you go. Ah, fuck go Hold on

Samming it in Worst case scenario They were bringing another holder If the snapper went down And you would snap I would Every once in a while They would bring in like a camp leg

And you would snap Yeah I would just start snapping Good skills there That'd be sweet Happened to the Chiefs this week? Yeah, Noah Gray. He said he'd never done it before. They talked him on the sideline.

Yep. Worked out. That's awesome. Athlete. It's a tough position. That's literally you get one wrong, you're done. But if you swing a hot bat, you have a job forever, like 20 years. You used to get blasted, too.

You don't get blasted anymore. Now you're protected. You've got to be able job forever. Like 20 years. Yeah. You used to get blasted too. You don't get blasted anymore. Now you're protected. You've got to be able to cover. You've got to be able to do two of the three things really good. Snap really good, protect really good, or cover really good.

Two of those three have to be very good or you're gone. Two of the three. Snap being the most important. Some guys, like your punt snaps, field goal snaps have to be

always good. Yeah, field goal snaps have money. But punt snaps, there's some snappers that have been very not great, but they're – They can cover and get tackled. Yeah, they're making tackles and stuff. I would much rather that guy get cut than just give me – Give me a perfect snap.

Give me a good – I'll worry about the tackle here, and if we need you, we're in trouble anyways. Yeah. But if you get a guy that can do all three, weapon. Matt Overton just worked out for another team, I think. Really? Yeah, keep going. This has to be like.

15? I mean, a long time. Yeah. Keep going, Ovi. Keep going, Ovi. Somebody on a scooter. A couple kids on a scooter outside. That's good.

We'll handle that. Mint and bone in our little recess. On our land? Nah, they're right outside staring at us. I mean, these two kids are just staring me on the screws right now. Good to see those kids. Hope they're safe. Hope they're having a fun day. It is nice and chilly. You should go outside, do your thing. Sun's shining.

It's not overheating. It's a wonderful town to be alive. Hell yeah. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice about Change Your Life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.