The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1185 - Rich Eisen, Oklahoma State Head Coach Mike Gundy, Mike Florio, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the news that Bo Nix has officially been named the starting QB for the Denver Broncos, along with all the other news around the NFL while we also prepare to head to Ireland tomorrow for the start of the college football season. Joining the show in the first hour to do a simulcast of his show is Rich Eisen, as Pat and Rich go live at the same time to chat about Michigan football, the Adam Schefter 40 yard dash, why the NFL is as big as it is, and much more. Next, Head Football Coach of Oklahoma State, Mike Gundy to chat about his recent comments about NIL, how much different things are now than when he was first the Head Coach, how he sees college football changing and what needs to be done in order to ensure it’s future, why he decided to cut his mullet and when we can be expecting it’s return, and much more in an incredible conversation. Later, the founder and owner of Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio joins the show to chat about if the NFL can make changes to the new dynamic kickoff before the start of the regular season, what he ultimately thinks is going to happen with the Brandon Aiyuk situation, Apple TV getting into the Sunday Ticket game, Michael Penix not getting anymore reps in the preseason, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdome. On this simulcast sports ball at Wednesday, August 21st, 2024, this program starts now. Football! It is beautiful. Football brings the world together. Football season is fully intact and we have Hard Knocks episodes, React 2 storylines to talk about. And today, I think for the first time i ever say it it's ever first time ever two shows are going to be live at the same damn time streaming two different shows but talking to each other at the same time us and rich eisen will be live at the same time he on

roku us on espn espn plus youtube and not tiktok live because we'll be kicked off until friday that's right good but nonetheless we'll be simulcasting live here in a matter of moments. I think it's the first time that this has ever happened. And I'm sure that's not true. But just for the sake of making you feel like this is a big deal. Aside from that, I think this will be the second time that Rich Eisen has been live on ESPN since he got fired from SportsCenter, which obviously he helped build the entire network and the brand of SportsCenter alongside Stu

and I believe DP was there sometime. That crew back there, they used to kind of lift SportsCenter into what it has become. That lifted SportsCenter brand to continue to live on forever in our minds as obviously a living legend.

We can't wait to chit chat with him. First ever employee at NFL Network still there. Also a guy who's done a daily show for a long time. Can't wait to chit chat with him about it all and how he feels the NFL is doing right now. A lot of things potentially on the horizon. The NFL has a couple things on the docket for the next team league wide meeting. Are they going to change the kickoff rule? Are they going to adapt the kickoff rule?

Because they're starting to see the same thing that we're kind of seeing. The original plan for this new kickoff was if you kick a touchback, like happened nine straight times or ten straight times in a Super Bowl with not one single return, which happens at like a 95% clip or something in the NFL if you just kick a touchback. The ball originally was supposed to come out to the 35, you see, as opposed to the 25, which was originally the 20. So it goes from the 20 if you kick a touchback. The ball originally was supposed to come out to the 35, you see, as opposed to the 25, which was originally the 20.

So it goes from the 20 if you kick a touchback to the 25. Nobody cared because it was just five yards. We'll continue to kick a touchback. Then at 25 goes the 30 now. Will anybody care? Or will that thing need to be moved to the 35 for the touchback rate to go down? We shall see.

They'll talk about it at the league meeting. Also, I think there's some Sunday ticket news that's popping off. There's some other stuff. I cannot wait to hear what Rich Eisen has to say about that in a matter of moments. The Talks Table is here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. Sweet elbow room hat, pal. I want to let you know that I was down in Sunrise, Florida, near Fort Lauderdale. I had some people literally in the crowd tell me,

I'll see you at the elbow room after the show. I did not have time on a Monday night, especially with a three-hour flight because how far that place is down there. But I liked you representing here right on your face. Yeah, I saw the box earlier, decided to poke my head in there and some of the stuff they have is fantastic. And then it kind of just reminded me like, hey, we're 48 hours from Ireland. I assume there

are Elbow Rooms packed to the brim over there in that little Dublin pub area. You're talking about going to Publin. Yeah, we're heading to Publin over there. I believe there is that little Dublin pub area. You're talking about going to Publin. Yeah. We're heading to Publin over there. I believe there is some sort of pub crawl happening after our program. I believe that is a... Hell yeah. I believe there is

conversations. I don't think it has been locked in or certified yet. Lock it in. Okay. Lock it in. Lock it in. Lock it in. Lock it in. Lock it in. Lock it in. You got the power. Do it right now. Lock it in. Hit that button. Lock it in Lock it in You got the power do it right now Hit that button lock it in Lock it in

Okay we'll lock it in Everybody's pumped The reason why I wasn't going to do that is because Now we are announcing to everybody we're probably going to be at every single bar Yeah you guys just all lost your mind there But you know what to be clear We're going to try We cannot wait to see everybody in Ireland.

It's going to be a blast on Friday. We take off tomorrow after the show in a tube for eight hours. Okay? That is not necessarily my forte or where I strive at, but it's going to be a blast once we get there. We cannot wait to get to Ireland, and we can't wait to kick off the college football season. Speaking of the college football season,

let's head to one of the Cowboys from Hammer Down. Tone Diggs. Tone, what do we need to know going into this college football season that we'll be kicking off Friday in Publin at J.R. Mahan's in downtown? Yeah, I was thinking, you know, why not do a pub crawl on Friday because it's not like we have anything to do Saturday. But wait, I forgot.

The first ever international broadcast of College Game Day is Saturday when Georgia Tech takes on Florida State. Florida State is currently a 10.5-point favorite. That one opened up around 13. So it has crept down the shops, okay, like Georgia Tech. Haynes King comes back. He had 37 touchdowns last year. Damn.

Total touchdowns. They don't like him to win. People need to make sure they know what you're saying right now. To cover the 10, currently 10.5 is dropped down from, what, a 13 at one point. It was 11.5 yesterday. So it keeps creeping down because Georgia Tech money keeps coming in. But, no, they do not expect them to win.

Quarterback Haynes King from Georgia Tech transferred over from Texas A&M last year, had 37 touchdowns, 16 interceptions. He led the ACC in turnover. So something to look at there. They did average 30 points per game on offense, and they returned basically all of their returning offense, Georgia Tech. Florida State bringing DJ Yu from Oregon State, who was at Clemson before then.

He comes back to the ACC to make his triumphant return, hopefully for that Mike Norvell Florida State team that went undefeated in the regular season last year. So they played for the national championship then? No, Jordan Travis got hurt and the offense looked like poop the last couple weeks when they had second and third string quarterbacks in there.

So they didn't make the college football playoff. Some people agree with that decision. I do. It was the right decision. Just to be clear, we would like to go on the record yet again for the Florida State people. We very much understand why you guys are pissed. Correct.

Yeah, very much understand why you guys are pissed. I was at a West Virginia team. We lost the game because of me. And the fact that we weren't able to get into one of the prime spots that was being selected by people, even though we showcased throughout the entire season that we should be there. Like, since the beginning of these bowls not being earned spots, more so decided spots by people's opinions, there's always been issues so if i was florida state associated with florida state played for florida state fodder of somebody that played at florida state or any florida state people i could see how

you would be immensely pissed oh yeah with that being said zoomed out version i think the national audience not necessarily unfair everybody unfair that that's how it went. But the four teams that played in college football playoff last year were electrifying. And it was like it worked out perfect. Now with the 12 team, we're not going to have to worry about that. So we do apologize to the Florida State people having to go through that, and we can see why you're pissed. But now with the 12 team,

this isn't going to be the biggest and best year yet, it seems like. Biggest and best year yet. And I said, good news for Florida State. They would be in it this year because it's the four conference champions of the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, and SEC. And then the group of five highest ranked teams. So those are the teams not in the Power Five. Whoever's the highest ranked team last year was Liberty. So Liberty would be in this year.

And then everyone else rounds out the top 12. It's going to be amazing. Can't wait to get started. We'll be heading to Ireland. Speaking of getting started, it's almost that time to join alongside another show that is live at the same time on a different platform. Now, our show's on YouTube, ESPN Plus, and obviously ESPN. ESPN, the network, was built by some of the shows that we've all thought about. Obviously, sports, but SportsCenter is one of those shows that has really put ESPN into the stratosphere that it is in to be on every television, basically in public, that there is.

There's a man who hosts a show every single day alongside a great group, a great group, who helped build this brand, this network. And for the second time ever since he has left, he's about to be live. He's the first ever employee at NFL Network. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who's always been incredibly kind to us.

He's got a bald head, but he can run a 40. Rich Eisen. See, you clap to your right, I clap to my left. That's how we're doing it right here on the simulcast. Look at us, Pat. Look at us, brother. Rich, it is an honor to do this alongside you. And let me give a brief

testimony about how much I love Rich Eisen. So, Rich, it is an honor to do this alongside you. And let me give a brief testimony about how much I love Rich Eisen. So Rich, you know, he does the punters are people to movement and that started kind of in mockery, but he has stood by it. So we, we do appreciate that. We do appreciate that. His love for specialists has been around a long time and he's still there. But before anybody would give me a shot at anything on TV anywhere rich eisen had me on his podcast on his show supported me on this chair on that chair so rich you have been a believer in somebody that has helped me like in this business immensely we appreciate you rich we appreciate you rich so with that being said thank you whenever welcome back to espn it's great to have you help build this place let's go rich thank you with build this place. Let's go, Rich. Thank you. With that being said, when Schefter said what he said about you yesterday,

we did not like it. Man, oh man. We did not like it. Oh. No, no, no. No, no, Todd. You can't do that. Because I watch the Pat McAfee show when I'm not on this program.

I watch your program. And I know it all started with Ty saying that I got dusted. Okay? That's how it started. That's how it started. Which is an interesting way to repay me

for giving Mad Mel a free pass to the entire combine. That said, the word dusted came into the ether, and then Adam flexed up, bowed up, and started talking about kicking my ass.

That is just an outrage, Pat. That is an outrage, because you have a pair of eyes. Yes, I do. And you could see that run. The guy tripped over his own feet. He's lucky there was something to keep him from face-planting. Agreed. Because that beautiful face could not be dispensing facts and information on ESPN without that backstop. So I'm sorry to jump in there, but the fact is—

Yeah, we weren't happy about it, though. You know, Todd said what he said just to see how Schefter would respond. This is classic weed investigating. Bingo. You know, because we knew that said just to see how Schefter would respond. This is classic lead investigating. Bingo. You know, because we knew that Schefter could potentially have this moment. Because remember, Schefter's been captured on camera having a two-inch vertical. Remember when he tried to do the Lambo leap?

Yep. So this particular video, when it hit the internet, made him look very athletic. Both of you. He said he's 50-something. 57. 57. 57. How old are you, Rich? You don't have to say it.

I'm fine. I don't care. I'm double nickel. He's got two years on me. Shackler's older than you. Oh my gosh. And he dusted you. Oh my gosh. Excuse me. Now let me have a little bit of a say here.

Okay. So we're at Fanatics Fest. We're at Fanatics Fest. I show up at the NFL 40-yard dash line there, whatever. Had no intention of running. I ran not once, but twice before that run. Twice. Because Michael Rubin was running against an influencer, to be honest, whose name escapes me right now.

Oh, wow. Oh, no. Respect, Rich. Wow. No,. Oh, wow. Oh, no, respect, Rich. Wow. No, no, no. Baseball? No, no, no. We all have influence. We all have influence.

Okay, perfect. Listen, so I ran not once but twice, and Schefter then comes up to me and goes, you want to run? You can do a little Michigan on Michigan thing. Uh-oh. And so he says that, and there was was none like let's see who's the king of the 40 let's see who can kick each other's ass it was just let's have some fun together

right so we do that even though i know i know this is not going to work out well for me it's my third run and to be honest with you i had some very fashionable lace up boat shoes i should not be running the boat shoes yeah i agreed fashion have been running in at all. Can't be running in boat shoes. Can't be running in boat shoes. Yeah, agreed. Fashion killed me here. Look at those shoes. I shouldn't be running in that. And Schefter had on Air Force Ones all laced up.

Oh, Air Force Ones are tough to run in. I don't know if the Air Force Ones are tough to run in because obviously you've got the big base. They make you taller, and you don't want to crease those things, although I don't think Schefter knows any of those rules. I appreciate that you guys at 55 and 57, though, were able to stride out. I think that's the big story here.

Okay, thank you. He did. King him. Yeah, he did. He did say he's the king of the 40s. So hopefully at the next combine, you guys will be able to get back out there, raise some more money for St. Jude's, which you have done in a remarkable way, turning something that is pretty monotonous into a philanthropic effort that has affected many.

Hey, Rich, that's the beauty of Rich Eisen football. Thank you, sir. I have another question for you, though, Rich, here quickly. And I know we're going to have to handle some business here in a couple of minutes. We can't wait to watch a master at work with that entire operation. Let's throw to my radio break before the Roku channel rejoins the audience. OK. Boom. Bingo. That's throw to my radio break before the Roku channel rejoins the audience. Okay. Boom. Bingo. That's the case. The NFL right now, and you can take this all the way

to your break, obviously. The NFL feels like it is on fire. It feels like it is bigger and better than ever. Valuation through the roof. They just released a $679 Sunday ticket through Apple TV, and then obviously you got the YouTube TV, and there's that lawsuit that's taking place, but it would

literally just be a bite out of an apple and billions of dollars. Can you feel it as the first ever employee at NFL Network and for the league that this is on-air talent? Is this the biggest the NFL's ever been? Is it very obvious? And where else can they go, Rich? Where else can the

NFL go and what else can they do? Different places on planet Earth, Pat. I mean, that's the next step is to grow the game internationally. We're already getting a game in Brazil, as you know. Don't wear green, Rich. Don't wear green out there. Don't wear green. I've heard that story.

That's why I heard that, I guess, in the same situation. That's why there's a great French blue button down for my radio audience. I need to describe that. He looks very smelt, too French blue button down for my radio audience. I need to describe that. He looks very smelt, too, and jacked for your radio audience. Rich Eisen is jacked currently right now. Just so people know. Just so people know. Real deal. I don't know what he's doing.

Honestly, in person, Schefter put on a couple LBs. Listen. There's three games in Londonondon there's a one in munich um and and then there's one in brazil this year and there's just more and more opportunities to to grow the game internationally and i do believe there's going to probably be down the road maybe a new tv package based off of that whole business um so yeah, I definitely feel it. When NFL Network first started, this is going to be season 22 for me at NFL Network, Pat. And when that started, a lot of folks were wondering, what are you going to talk about in between playing seasons? What are you going to do? What's to discuss? I do remember one of my last SportsCenter ideas meeting before I was, I guess, given a cardboard box.

Yes, that foot movement right there back in 2003. By the way, excellent flexibility on your part right there, Pat. That would have put me in traction if I tried that right now. But long story short, though, one of the ideas meetings we had was to bring up in early april let's talk some football on sports center and a lot of people were were sort of looking cross-eyed at that because it was uh the beginning of uh march madness of the middle of march madness and it was the beginning of baseball season it was master's week there was so much going on that nobody really wanted to talk football at three weeks, four weeks before the draft.

That's totally changed now. As you can see, uh, on ESPN NFL lives, fantastic program. There's so many other shows based on all of that stuff. Uh, there's now multiple hard knocks. There's one, a special one that's come in this fall. As a matter of fact, that I'm hearing about. And, uh, I think, um, people can't get enough of it. Yeah.

So we're in that sort of business. But I do believe it's time for my first break, Pat. You know, ready? You ready? Because I've got to throw to break. You remember terrestrial radio those days for you, Pat. We were there for a few months. What a Heisman kept it moving.

Yeah, I remember that. I remember those times. I remember those times. Yeah, we're on terrestrial radio. So I'm going to throw to my radio break. And that's three minutes long. And then I come back and bring back my Roku channel audience for two minutes. And then I'm one big happy family again.

And then we'll hang out until you have your first guest. Correct? Is that the way we're going to run this thing? Yeah, so we're going to remain live because we don't do the radio breaks anymore. Thank God. We weren't great at them, to be honest. And we have one out an hour, 57. 57.

Okay. Okay. So that's your hard out at the top. I've got one of those, too, at the very end of the first hour. But we still got time. All right. So I'm going to throw it a break. And here's how it's going to go.

We'll be back on the Rich Eisen Show. Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! Don't do it! That's a good teaser. And we're clear. We're clear.

Hey, how good of a teaser was that for the radio people? They think that we just got maybe like, like maybe somebody's standing in a tab. They can't wait to tune back in there. You know what I mean? I just wanted to add a little sauce. I appreciate it. Sauce. So what do you want to talk about? I want to add a little sauce i appreciate it so what do

you want to talk about i want to talk about uh times times yours pat okay let me ask you this question let me ask you this question okay so um ty yeah can i ask ty a question absolutely you can do whatever you want oh well how does mel kuyper feel about your imitation of him uh to be honest i don't know i've i've heard from people people have said that he loves it i have a tough time believing i do not believe that i think if mel kuiper were to see me he'd he'd probably want to smack the taste out of my mouth pete hamill loves it lou holtz what was on the show obviously started the entire thing mel kuiper though we've tried to book on the show several times maybe 10 times since it's and it is what legit

yeah we we think there is potential heat with mel kuiper with that being said we're cool with it because mad mel kuiper is one of the greatest additions to my life personally out of all time rich out of my uh that's one of my favorite my when uh when when mad mel stormed off the set um is truly one of my favorite moments in the history of the Pat McAfee show. When he stormed off the set. That and getting Ryan Day off his game with the Lou Holtz stuff. Now that, as a Michigan guy, that is chef's kiss, man. Did you know, Ryan Day, we went to Ohio State later in the year.

Ryan Day came on the show. Ty was dressed up as Lou Holtz, asked him a question, and Ryan Day was answering him as if he was serious. It was an actual – and I was so proud of Ryan Day. I legitimately was so proud of Ryan Day, and then also you, obviously. Whenever your ability to impersonate some of these people become a motivating factor for a team to win a game that could potentially cost them a national championship.

I mean, you really pulled it off, Ty. Ty, you should be proud of yourself, Ty. I mean, we've done a lot of crazy stuff. I remember, I think I fell asleep late in the second half during the Notre Dame-Ohio State game. So did Lou Holtz. Yeah. He was still wearing a mask.

Yeah, and then I woke up and I had about 250 text messages and I saw the clip and I was like, oh, Jesus Christ, what's going on? That was truly bizarre. Okay, so let's talk about bizarre. Rich, how long have you been doing the Daily Show year-round now? This show turns 10 in October. Okay, so congrats on that, by the way. Not easy at all.

Thank you. Whenever you talk about that time in between the NFL season and then the NFL season again, and obviously you're at sports centers, you're covering all this shit. Man, 10 years of off-season coverage is wild. Like the Olympics saved us this year. I assume same thing for you over there? Caitlin Clark too, pal. There's no question about it.

Well, the universe told me not to talk about her. Uh-oh. Is that right? The universe. Yeah, the universe. Yeah, God came in and was like, you know what, pal? Probably go ahead and stop it. I had no idea about that.

Did you have a different universe? By the way, we're back on the Roku channel. It's great to be back. This is a good universe. You're back. I've got about a minute and 50 seconds until the radio audience rejoins. It'll be a big audience. Listen, why is the universe

telling you not to talk about caitlin clark because i'm an idiot mostly the reason is because i'm an idiot and i want to say we we're a big supporter we took show to uh iowa to support during the first day of men's march madness to launch uh the women's march madness because just wanted to catch the vibe of what Iowa was with Kaitlyn Clark on camp. I think what she has done, obviously, remarkable. Now, it's the whole rookie class and yada, yada, yada. We get it. United States Olympic team wrecked tickets, so I'm not even getting into it.

But nonetheless, I am dumb, and the way I speak, not good. And multiple times, God has come in and been like, you need to stop. Well, plus you're big in Iowa, though, because you chose Iowa to beat Michigan in the Big Ten Championship game, Pat, if I'm not mistaken, right? Nobody in Iowa remembered that.

I want to let you know that nobody in Iowa remembered that when I was going through it. But there was a chance in Michigan. No, it's not your bad at all. It's 100% my bad, actually. That's what we're kind of getting to. The Michigan thing. I picked against Michigan every week last year.

I noticed, Pat. I noticed. So did all of us Wolverines. We did. But that's why you are who you are. The love for you is, no, seriously, man. What you bring to College Game game day i know you were kind to say something to me to start what you've brought to college game day and what you bring

to college game day is second to none shut up dude seriously no it's the truth man i'll say it i don't care i want to talk about this michigan team though uh thank you for the kind words very kind of you you have to say that though right now specifically but no i do have to say that right now and there's one there's if you don't mind just give me just one second there's one other very kind of you. You have to say that, though, right now specifically. No, I do have to say that right now. If you don't mind, just give me one second. There's one other thing I really have to say. I'm back on the Rich Eisen Show radio network.

Simulcasting with the Pat McAfee show on ESPN. Also on the Roku channel. Look at us right now. And everything's okay, radio audience. I know everybody sounded a little chaotic when everyone in the break there. Everything is okay. We worked it out. It was just

a little bit of a glitch in the entire system over there. But no, I appreciate that. So we talk until just so I know the run of show here. We talk until the mullet man from Oklahoma State shows up on your program. Is that what's happening? Bingo. Is that how it works? Does he still have a mullet? Does Gundy still have a mullet? from Oklahoma State shows up on your program. Is that what's happening?

Bingo. Is that how it works? Does he still have a mullet? Does Gundy still have a mullet? It's a little bit more sporty. It's like a coupe. Is he 50 now? Oh, he's like 55.

Is he really? Okay, so, all right, very good. Well, we can run a 40 against Schefter. He's 57. He's just as big as Schefter. You don't want to race Gundy. He's 57. Hey, neither of you. Hey, just, I don't know what we're talking about,

how we're talking about it or what we're thinking about. You nor Schefter should even think about getting into anything with this guy. No way. No race, no fight, no nothing. I don't think definitely not hunting situation. I think he talked about killing a turtle one time.

I don't think you want any parts of the mullet man. Gandhi. He's reigning big 12 coach of the year right now. But, yes. Understood. I appreciate that advice. Let's talk college ball. I did pick against Michigan every week.

It became a thing for me and with Des and with Michigan. But what that team was able to do and accomplish last year had to be obviously so much fun. I remember we were doing the simulcast at the Rose Bowl, and we requested you to come join us. And the message we got back was like, Rich is really like really into this game. I was not suitable. I was not suitable for broadcast, uh, Pat. And I appreciate you understanding that there there's, you know, uh, very fortunate to do what I do for a living. As long as I've been able to do it. There's really only two teams that emotionally affect me

to the point where I can't be around other people. The New York Yankees are one. Hell yeah. And Michigan football is the other. I really can't be around other people. My kids were around, and I just couldn't move. I just didn't want to move. And I appreciate you understanding that.

Certainly it was a tight game. I think Michigan had just lost the lead to Alabama at the Rose Bowl. It was awesome. And it was all on the line, Pat, on that day. But it was the greatest year of my sports life. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Enjoying it, especially with all the adversity that came, obviously, the Connor Stallions, Rogue Agent, Harbaugh, who we are massive fans of.

I mean, massive fans of. The way he dealt being suspended, then Sharonugh, who we are massive fans. I mean, massive fans of. The way he dealt being suspended, then Sharone Moore, the way the team responded. It was like if I was a fan of Michigan, which I have become, but if I was a fan of Michigan, it'd be like, they're trying to hold us back. Our boys aren't even blinking. Like literally, there seemed to be no blinking throughout the entire year.

Had to love that as a Michigan alumni, legitimately. I did it. I loved all of it. It was fantastic. Soup to nuts. Seen all these guys go to the next level too. And I can't wait to see what Sharon Moore is going to do this year. And I'm genuinely psyched about it. And you brought up Connor Stallions. Is Gundy showing up anytime soon? We got four or five minutes here. So this is a documentary that's coming out with Connor Stallions. How many deleted text messages

do you have with this guy? I have zero, Pat. Let me ask you this question, Pat. Have you and Mrs. McAfee been on vacation before and asked somebody to take a picture of you? Has that ever happened? Where you're like, you hand your phone and say, hey, would you mind taking a picture of us?

You hand that phone to that person and what ends up happening is you see about 90 percent blue sky and your head's cut off and you don't actually get what you're looking for do you think every single time connor stallions went on etsy or whatever the hell he found these people that shoot these videos do you think they knew exactly what they were shooting and everything he got back was 100 usable to michigan's advantage do you believe that okay that's your angle is that is that what i just heard one these people on the internet can't film signs connor stallion was getting amateurs you think it works do i think it works do i think what works do you think humans you thought that every single time it worked perfectly for him do Do you think that was exactly how it worked? Okay, so you're saying, they're saying he studied 75 games.

Let's assume that at least half of those user error, we got dummies from the internet getting paid 250 bucks. They don't know who's even given the signs. They were filming the white hat. It was actually the blue hat sign night. Could have been. Could have been. That's awesome. Until I see this, until I see it, until I see it, I'm just going to say, listen, this

thing got ripped out root and branch, root and branch. And Michigan went without any of, with him gone, with his Bobby Valentine get up on the sideline of the Central Michigan game and all of that sort of stuff. Very cool. Whatever the hell he was up to ripped out root and branch and they dominated for the rest of the college football season to the point where the NCAA president said

they won it fair and square. I am done on this whole subject matter. I just mentioned Connor Stallion. You're the one that did the whole... You've ever tried to hire somebody to take a picture for you guys? Yes.

I never brought that up. I never brought up any of that. I just mentioned that Connor Stallion's existed as a part of the adversity which certainly was real. But with that being said... Am I going to watch the Netflix? No, I'm not going to watch the Netflix. You have to. Maybe you might see some of the footage. Come on.

I want to see Root and Branch. Let's go ahead and see. before we get out of here to uh yes sir gundy i do want to talk about the fact that a i love that michigan team sharon moore's a dog wink martindale is now a defense coordinator against college offensive coordinators that should be a lot of fun and you you mentioned charlie baker saying it was fair and square i heard charlie baker speak at the college football conference i'm a big fan of his he the way his side kind of told the story about the whole sign stealing it was like as soon as they were shown what they were shown he thought and patiti thought as well like everybody just needs to know that this is potentially a thing first so we can make sure it is fair and square at the end if this team goes on and wins it they go on and win it that's why Charlie's like, as soon as anything was ever known,

they had to win those games. Your team was dominant, absolutely dominant. Lucky to talk about college football, college game day. But let's talk about what you guys do on Sunday mornings because it's one of my favorite shows on TV. I watch every single week. You guys call it NFL Sunday College Game Day, right? That's what it is.

What's it called? No, it's called NFL? What's it called? No, it's called NFL game day morning. Of course, of course it is a great show and I couldn't recommend it more in this entire thing. Everybody back. When do we get started? And what time do you guys start that show? Is that like 4am?

What time do you get there? That's my call time. Sometimes it's a, it's a, it's a it's a it's a it's a uh a sliding call time for me depending on you know what time i'm i'm able to get up in the morning but i do love doing it it's uh what i think year 15 for me doing that at nfl network um it's uh 6 a.m pacific kickoff time um and it'll be fun it, it'll be lots of fun. And just, you know, I heard Greeny is the new host of, of what, what is it called? NFL Sunday college game day.

No, that is not that name. You know that. Don't be an asshole, Rich. No, no, no, no. Just, just I'll tell Greeny, asshole rich no no no no just just i'll tell greeny just let i tell everybody who steps into this arena that at 9 a.m eastern time and i told this to ray lewis when he was on espn going uh doing the the show that goes against mine uh i come out of the smoke at 9 a.m eastern time me too every single sunday okay I didn't know you did that. That makes sense. Different smoke.

We be wakin' and bakin'. Definitely not what I do. Definitely not what I'm doing. That's what I do, and I bring my A-game every single Sunday, so I welcome Mike Greenberg to the fray, and it'll be fun. I can't wait to do it. I can Mike Greenberg to the fray.

And it'll be fun. I can't wait to do it. I can't wait to watch you guys again. Your show is awesome. Thanks, pal. The mix, the chemistry, the ideas. It's a really good program. You guys should be incredibly proud.

I start with you guys. I end with Football Night in America. Now, Greeny is a good friend of the program. Yeah. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh! Uh-oh! Uh-oh! You're the man. You're the absolute man. Rich, thank you for everything. We appreciate you.

Anytime, Pat. This is fun. We'll do it again. It works. Yeah, so this... It does. Yeah. Nobody really knew if this was going to actually work, so the fact that it did. Really good. We should do this during the season, I think, a few times. And Foxy, if you could cut

to the toxic table shot a little bit. It's like framed perfectly, I guess. We had to zoom out a little bit, frame it perfectly. Great work in the back

on your side. Zito, great work in the back on our side. We can't thank everybody enough for making this happen. We'll talk to you again soon. Now that we know this is possible.

You got it. Our guys, RJ Herrera and everyone else here on the show, we got together. It's communication and it's love. It's love. And Schefter did not dust me. He did not dethrone me. I'm happy to do this again.

I'm happy to do this again. Well, Rich, actually you know, Schefter did dust you a little bit. Now granted, he got folded up like a log chair. Almost broke his back. Almost broke his T2s, T3, but he kind of did beat your ass on the 40. That's something you're just going to have to live with, unfortunately. All right, Rich, sorry to break it down for you, bud. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen, the Rich Heifert Show.

Oh, man. Okay, so it works. What you just witnessed was a full-on preseason opportunity. That's why he said, what do you want to talk about? I was like, we didn't get past, like, is this going to actually work? Great work in the back there. Hey, great work in the back. Oh, yeah, boys.

So that involved three Zoom calls going out of our office. One Zoom call, three cameras going out to their shot. Then one Zoom call coming back with the rich shot and the side shot. We will air your Zoom shot coming in. You will air our Zoom shot coming out. And then we'll cut show. You cut show. So two shows.

Money. Two Zooms. Six shots. A couple breaks. One conversation. One heartbeat. One. One.

Two. Two breaks. One heartbeat. Three backs. One sound. Man, I'm so thankful we don't have to do that shit anymore. That was crazy to witness once again. We did that.

Yeah, it really did take me back. A couple of hours. Well, he's adding one, too. Yeah, because Roku's different than the radio. Yeah. Jeez. Lunatic. God bless him.

Doing a long time, though. Hey, congrats, Rich. Hell yeah, Rich. We do have somebody joining us that has a mullet that Rich should not be racing ever. No. No. Not on feet. Not on a jet ski.

Definitely. This guy definitely rides jet skis. Yeah. I couldn't even. Yeah. Did you just think of this man on a jet ski? Penny Powers. Oh, my God. I think that's why I've actually thought of that jet ski.

Yeah. Yeah, with this man rolling. College football is obviously kicking off this weekend, and it is about to be the greatest year of all time. I know there's a lot of question marks, and there's a lot of transition. Tone, what schools are in new conferences now? How many different schools have moved into different conferences?

In the ACC, it's now the All-Coast Conference because you've got Stanford and Cal coming over there. They also bring in SMU. The Big Tens now, they also have all those teams. So they have Washington. They have UCLA, USC, and Oregon. those teams so they have washington they have ucla usa usc and oregon uh big 12 brings in colorado utah uh who and both arizona schools and then the sec brings in texas and oklahoma i think i got them all so joining us now ladies and gentlemen is uh coach of the year reigning for one of those

conferences now just so happens to be west virginia's. But ladies and gentlemen, the reigning coach of the year from Oklahoma State, absolute dog, Mike Gundy. Yeah, coach. What's going on, guys? Coach, thank you for joining us. We were just chit-chatting with Rich Eisen. He asked if you still had the mullet. Obviously, the mullet caused a lot of ripple effects.

You do not. I lied right to his face. I thought you had like a more sportier version. The mullet is completely gone. I see. It is gone. I actually cut it the last week in July. My 19-year-old son is not fired up about that. He said that his generation, which are the age we recruit, they wanted the mullet. So I'm in the process of trying to grow it back. Okay. We're looking at about six to eight weeks, Pat. Mullet cut remorse happens to, I think, a lot of people.

And we're two months out, which is good. That'll be right in the middle. Prime of the season will be prime mullet. I mean, that is good news, not bad news if you talk about it. As a fellow mullet holder yourself, Connor, did you learn anything from what Coach just said there? I mean, I'm crushed. I'm not going to lie.

I'm absolutely devastated. I want to ask him and thank him really for being a godfather of the mullet. I mean, I'm broken up. You broke this guy's heart. You broke this guy's heart, Coach. I hope you know that. That is a big-time mullet right there. And he's got the mullet with the ball cap where it looks really good.

That's old school. You guys are too young, but that goes back to the 80s moment. We're old souls, Coach. You're not as old as I am. I'm an old soul. I'm 57 years old. You're a man. Yeah, I remember. Way past being a man. I was back

to being a man. I'm an old man now. How many of those photos of that press conference do you sign now for boosters or NIL stuff? How often does that get brought up? And I want to let you know, as a player at the time, when I see a coach go to bat for his players like that, obviously love it. Absolutely love it. But your delivery was certainly one that was going to be talked about forever. Here we are at 57, and we're still talking about it.

You know what's interesting is I've signed a bunch of them but now when I go into homes and recruiting the grandparents bring it up because they were around the younger generation they're like uh what they might have heard it on somebody's ringtone but essentially the grandparents bring it up and so it benefit it was might have been the best thing they'd ever have done in recruiting. Yes as a player it was like i would like my coach to go to bat publicly for me like that let's talk about now that was when you were 40 you had this job now obviously 17 years later you have the job and you're being quoted right now obviously for saying hey tell the agents i don't want to talk to them and i assume that means once the season starts there has to be some cutoff of when we're

doing business when we're doing football when we're doing business, when we're doing football, when we're worried about this, when we're worried about that. You don't have to directly answer that particular quote, but I do want you to kind of give your side of where we are right now. We've had a chance, obviously, to talk Coach Saban and his mindset on it all about the future. We talked to Coach Dan Lanning about what they're doing out at Oregon. Coach Rule, would love your take on kind of where we're at right now and how you feel about it and what you think maybe we need in the next step of this entire transition of this era.

So it's interesting that there's negotiation that's going on in college football now. But essentially, it stops when the portal closes, unless the young man is just going to hold out until next year or go play in the Canadian League. So essentially what I shared with them was that with coaches and players, everybody, including myself, all the negotiations, all the money's off the table. We pay our players very well here. They have certain functions that they have to take care of to be able to get their money through the NIL concepts. But the big challenge is to get players who are not used to making money

to say, look, the negotiations are over. When the portal opens back up, whether we like it or not, I think you're going to see more players going in the portal to negotiate, to see more players going in the portal to negotiate, not necessarily to try and leave. That'll be the big change. Now, we're waiting on the judge to sign off on this revenue sharing that I'm sure you guys are aware of and you've talked about a bunch. Once she signs off on this, we'll all have parameters for what direction this goes. I don't think there's any question, Pat, that we're heading towards college football players being employees. And the reason I say that is because we're going to be negotiating seven-figure contracts. I don't know anywhere in the world where there's seven-figure contracts that are negotiated without a contract.

Yes. So I just don't see it happening. Well, Coach, and I think I've obviously been very pro player making money for a long time because when I was at West Virginia, Pat White, Steve Slayton, Owen Schmidt, and the boys, you know, kind of put us, I don't want to say put us on, put West Virginia back on the map, then the video game, and then enrollment at West Virginia goes through the roof. The amount of money the school was making, the buildings get bought up, the stadium gets built up, the locker room that they have now was probably built by that era. We never experienced any of it. And Pat White, Steve Slayton, Steve had a great NFL career. It wasn't as long as you would hope. Pat White

gets hurt early in his NFL career, so he doesn't get the benefit from how great his football was. Owen Schmidt, same type of situation. So it's like, I watched these guys personally build up a town. And then in the end, what do they end up with? Like, not as much as they deserve. So I've always been like, players need to share. Players deserve a deserve a share let's do this so then they finally make it happen somehow with nil but it's kind of just thrown out there and then all of a sudden it's like whoa whoa whoa we need to figure out how to protect the schools obviously is from one angle but the players need protected in this entire thing too signing bad contracts agreeing to lifetime deals with people losing 20 of your money long term it's like at some point that shit all needs to get figured out and sorted.

And hopefully with this injunction that's coming, they think in the Q1 next year, I believe, I don't want to misquote anything, a 10-year thing where it will be $20 million or 20% of the revenue will go to the players. At least then we know who's paying, who's in charge, what the parameters of the deal is, what a deal looks like in comparison to other deals that are taking place out there because you guys are all kind of blind right now right and they're all kind of like pseudo blind almost yeah and everything you're saying is accurate you guys have done your research and you know pat white and those guys you know they they invented the reed zone stuff on offense rich rod baby yeah rich yeah it was uh

that was revolutionary at that time, much less being able to try to catch those guys. But the point being is what you said is exactly right. So I've been at Oklahoma State since 1986, other than five years of my life as a player and a coach and a head coach. And Coach Eddie Sutton was here for a long time in basketball. When they went to the Final Four, when football has success, wins 10 games, wins championships, go to big bowl games, our enrollment goes up every

year. So it drives the market. And in my opinion, football is essentially the face of the university in most cases. And the money that's generated and the revenue we're making now for the players is being shared as we move forward. And what you're saying is exactly right, because we can't get to the details and how to handle this in the right manner without contracts, in my opinion. You're not going to go down the street. Your wife talks you into buying a vacation house. You're not going to go down and buy a vacation house without a contract. It's not going to happen. So the point being is that you have to have contracts to move forward. There's marketing.

There's branding. There's so many things. And I really believe that college football teams are going to eventually break away and become their own company. Yeah, and I think there's a lot of eyes on that. And the NCAA, where do they fall into this entire thing? Charlie Baker, I got to listen to him speak at the same time he talked about that in jump.

I think he's talented. I think he's got a good brain. And his vision for the future is hopefully one that keeps everything together. And, you know, there's a lot of smart people in decision-making positions, I think, right now. And we're going to need all of them. Coach, you talk about a vacation house.

You ever been to Myrtle Beach? Coach, you ever been to Myrtle Beach? I have. My youngest son played in a baseball tournament there when they were 11 years old. I was there for seven days. You walked in there and you said, fuck, this is home? Loved that area.

And the island, I can't remember, there's an island you drive to right by there. You can go there and vacation. Yeah, I understand. Have a good time there. Before the boys have some questions for you, and we can't thank you enough for your time in the middle of this training camp era before the season gets started, can you tell me about how great ollie gordon is so like last year he was under the radar under the radar under the radar under the radar felt like and i assume you guys feel that way as well and then going into which i forget which game day it was tones my guy who does all the research he's like hey there's a running back in oklahoma state who he's like on

par with like derrick henry right now and now and Trent Richmond. Like, everything he could possibly do. So I start cutting a promo about this Oli Gordon guy on game day. And then all the Oklahoma State fans are like, look at this, look at this, look at this. This dude is a never-ending highlight reel. Seems to be a dog who can carry and take on all the weight of the team, seemingly.

We're going to see more of that this year. And what do we not know about Ollie Gordon that we should about the way he operates as a running back for your team? So Ollie took off after game three. We were struggling, so we revamped our offensive schemes and the way we were rushing the football. And we said we need to hang our hat on this guy. This is how we want to do it and move forward.

We pushed all of our poker chips out there. It worked out well for us. And the one area that Ollie really excels in is he's a workhorse. He's old school. You know, we pumped it to him 30 times a game. You don't see that a lot. He was able to carry the load throughout the season and then can consistently do it week in and week out

when people were putting an extra guy in the box and trying to stop the run. And the one thing about him that people don't know much, Ollie's really young. I mean, Ollie is – he's not 21. He's – as you know. And he's got a lot of development. We didn't have the luxury of redshirting. We had to play him early in his career.

He's very intelligent. See, he played a lot of development. We didn't have the luxury of redshirting. We had to play him early in his career. He's very intelligent. See, he played a lot of quarterback in high school. They'd snap the ball to him and he'd run it, which is smart. And he's very intelligent. He's got an unbelievably magnetic personality. I mean, people love to be around Ollie. And the branding in the NIL market is huge for him because of his personality and the way people are drawn to him.

You know, we just came up with this QR code deal the other day. I don't know if you guys knew about it or not, but it's something we put in. And people are going to hit his QR code forever. You know, they're going to give him an opportunity. And, you know, people can be at a bar in London or New York City or L.A. or Tokyo and having a watch party and get fired up. And they can go online to our social media and they can bang money to him through the QR code or to.A. or Tokyo and having a watch party and get fired up, and they can go online to our social media and they can bang money to him through the QR code or to our team. Hey, enjoy a beer tonight on me.

Enjoy a beer tonight on me, Ollie, for the show. You know what it is, Pat? Instead of getting fired up, the guy makes a big play. Instead of a round on everybody for me, it's, okay, no pull-up and send some money in the QR code. Bingo. And we did this for the Notre Dame lacrosse team last offseason. They win a national championship

then they go over to Ireland? No, England. Yeah, Europe. They did a little Europe tour. And they took a picture and they were like, we're accepting beers or whatever at this Venmo. And it was like, send them some beers. Because if somebody sees somebody they normally would like to help them,

for Ollie Gordon, I think he's going to be dancing into pain a lot this year that's a brilliant strategy there hey i think that's smart what you guys did for him i think he's going to benefit from it also thank you for going to bat for him you know like that's a whole nother thing you go to bat for your players i think that is a trend that you have certainly showcased and it is very much noticed you need to know that from people like me and other players, I think. And they deserve it. You know, one thing that we talk about, I guess maybe I talk about to the team is that in order to be a good college football player, you have to totally give your body up. In our sport, you have to be willing to say, I'm going to give up my body

to play a game. For success, I have to be willing to play with pain all the time and continuously run into people over and over and have total disregard for your body. And players that are willing to do that need to be supported by the fans. Yeah. And you going to bat for those types of players is a cool thing, which is why you've been able to coach at the same place forever. I think your messaging was hilarious. Shit, two beers? I mean, fuck. Come on.

What are we even talking about here? That was a hilarious way to phrase it. We got a good pop-up. Nobody should be in 2024. We all agree. But just you saying, like, me being a human who is flawed as well, viewing another person who does everything right other than this particular situation what do you want from me i think it was cool thing you stick up for your players you're awesome connor has a question for you

yeah coach good to hear that the mall will be back because you know that mug sitting behind your big daddy you are kind of the big daddy of the mullet community if you will but on those qr codes how did that kind of come up? How did that become a great idea, of course, but how did it kind of become implemented? And will you also have a QR code on your visor so that when you call a beautiful touchdown to a player that I have in one of my parlays, I can say, damn it, Gundy did it again.

Let me send him some money for that vacation house that you were talking about, possibly in Myrtle Beach. Oh, Myrtle House? Now, that is a great idea for a QR code on a visor. I hadn't thought of that. But to be honest with you, since we're on the Pat McAfee show, we're not just giving normal coaches talk, which I never give normal coaches talk anyway.

That's why I stay in trouble so much. But the point is, we were sitting around in my office with my assistant, Danielle, and our director of business finance, Kenyatta Wright, used to play in the NFL. And now we've hired to be our director of business and finance. And I said, I thought to them, I said, how can we get people across the country to be able to give NIL money for our players and set up them being able to orchestrate things to make the NIL money. If I'm in Los Angeles or London or Tokyo or New York City and I want to give, how can I do it? And we came up with a plan. We said, why don't we have QR codes set up? Because that way they can do it instantly. And, you know, it's almost, I guess, you know, I kind of thought about a GoFundMe. You know, you see people that are in need and they set up a GoFundMe and the people in this country

come together and they help them. And all of a sudden they, if they've had a terrible incident, they have an opportunity to get out of it. So I thought, why don't we set this up for NIL and give the Oklahoma State people a chance that when they're sitting there and they see a player make a great play, they're going to pull that up on social media and bang that money. And so we started working on it about three months ago, got social media people, got Chris Deal in our media relations, and he helped us, and we've got it set up. It's going to be in all the bars in town and restaurants.

It'll be on the tabletops on game day. Wow. That's wonderful. Smart. That is a very smart move. Get the Pfizer one. Some of those GoFundMe's not legit. Hopefully those get sorted going forward because this being actually set up through that and on the website, we see you can credit a team member to down at the bottom means you can send it directly to the person. I mean, it's,

and hopefully that money gets shared with big boys too. I don't know. I don't know how many offensive linemen QR codes are going to get banged any money, but hopefully the team will certainly share it. This is brilliant. This is brilliant, Coach. Last question here. I know you have to go, and we can't thank you enough for your time. Tone has one about the scheduled opener. Yeah, Coach.

We had Coach Rule on a few times, and we talked to him, and he said when he went into Nebraska, he told the AD, do not schedule me any Dakotas, okay? That's the one thing I don't want is any Dakotas. And you scheduled the Dakotas. South Dakota State has won back-to-back national championships at FCS, and they are the number one ranked FCS team coming into this season. What does that do for you guys as a week one test?

I know you have like 20 returning starters, and Alan Bowman might be 35, I'm pretty sure. But how does that go for a test in week one? So you guys are aware of this but these schedules were set eight to ten years in advance i know we were not aware of that i was not aware of that i did not know it was a decade i thought like years ahead obviously because bureaucracy and shit but i didn't know it was 10 years yeah yeah eight to ten years these schedules were set in advance and um in fact i'll get back to the south Dakota State, but in fact, we play Alabama, I think, in two years maybe.

And when they came to me with that about 10 years ago, I thought, well, hell, we'll just schedule them. I won't be coaching that long anyway. And that'll be on somebody else's plate. But South Dakota State guys, they are well coached. They understand. They don't get out of place much. They play hard

what I've shared with the team and have said it publicly is this is a team that you have to take the game from them they're not going to give you the game they they play they they haven't lost in like 10 years um and and their point spreads through the roof so uh their coaches understand and people said well what do you think they're going to do to you? And I shared with the team and the coaching staff, said, guys, it's been so long since they lost a game. They ain't going to do anything different other than what they're doing. They don't see us and aren't scared of us. In fact, a few years ago, I think the last game they lost,

they played Iowa, and Iowa ended up in the top 25 in the country that year, and they lost like six to three to Iowa. So these guys, we're aware of them. If we were doing scheduling a year in advance, probably wouldn't have scheduled them. Yeah, well, you could have said the score and we would have been able to guess that it was Iowa. You could have said 6-3 and we would have

been able to figure that out. I think it was 9-3. Okay, yeah, I'm sure. Almost double digits. Almost double digits. It's close, you know, 6-3, 9-3, that's all the same. It might have been 6-2, shit. That's Iowa digits. It's close. You know, 6-3, 9-3. That's all the same. It might have been 6-2. Shit.

I mean, that's Iowa football. There's a chance. But go big, go blue, go Jacks. I got a chance to go out there for game day. They were out there at South Dakota State for the Dakota marker game against North Dakota State, who Colorado has week one. So, like, I'm excited to kind to see this year how it goes. You've got some additions to the Big 12. You've got some losses to the Big 12.

Hey, they're saying you guys are about to go and do it, but watch out for fucking West Virginia, Coach. I want to let you know. These Mountaineers, oh, this year. He's coming on out there. He's doing a good job. He's coaching really well. they're getting some tough kids uh you know west virginia for forever and ever and ever used to be tough guys they were old school tough guys they'd hit you in the face hit you in the mouth um and

you know i knew you were a west virginia guy and and i know you guys are letting me go but they're giving me like two minutes here before somebody screams. But so here, when I did my research, I had known about you because all my boys, I've got late 20s, mid 20s and a 19 year old and they all watch your show. And so they knew that I was coming on and they said, you need to do this, you need to do this, you need to do this. And so I did my research and, you know, we have a lot of things in common. You're a multi-sport guy in high school you kicked and punted i kicked and punted in high school okay um you got you did championship

wrestling right um i wrestled for nine or ten years okay um college football background booth commentating sideline you've been on college game day You've been on college game day. I've been on college game day. Wow, are we? You won punt, pass, and kick championship. I didn't get that accomplished. I dang sure didn't make the Pro Bowl twice, and I have never recovered my own onside kick. Wow.

You got all that accomplished. And I tell you the one thing I liked was you super kicked the war pig, right? Oh, man. Coach, I'll tell you the one thing I liked was you super kicked the war pig, right? Coach, I'll tell you what, bro. I mean, from list of humans, didn't fucking know you. Okay, this is where it started at, right down here, didn't know you.

You're top of the list, bud. I am so thankful that I got a chance to talk to you. Thank you for the due diligence. To the Gundy boys, thank you for the recommendation to your father to come on this program. They lit me up. They were lighting me up. They were on my butt big time about, like, don't screw this up. Well, I don't know if you can't screw things up. I would want you to know that.

I said, you know I'm a great interviewer. I'm not going to screw it up because I don't do coaches talk. You know Gundy's not going to bring that up. But anyway, I really appreciate you guys having me on. The show's awesome. The only reason I don't see it all the time is because I'm working. But anyway, I really appreciate you guys having me on. The show's awesome. The only reason I don't see it all the time is because I'm working. But now I'll try to fit it in. I'll get my assistant to pull it up there.

But you guys call it like it is. I'm all for calling it like it is. Anybody else, they're not worth watching. Man, what a promo. We're going to cut that. You're the man, Coach. Love you, Gundy. Hey, Coach, team on me.

All right, guys. Team on three. Hey, hold on, Coach. Team on three. One, two, three. One, two, team on me. All right, guys. Team on three. Hey, hold on, Coach. Team on three. One, two, three. One, two, three. Team. Thank you, Coach.

That was awesome. Those same people. You're the best. Thank you so much, Coach. What a time. Yeah. Legend. Okay, State.

Yeah, here we go. Going all the way this year. Hold the phone. That's why Tony picked him to win the Big 12. Yeah. That's a little disrespectful, but also, maybe see why. Go Cowboys. Hey, don't get crazy. Neil Brown had that goatee.

Yeah, he did. Let's remember that. Different human. What are you talking about? I mean, he looks like a mean cuss now. He has not looked like that. If he had the goatee and the mullet, if he had the goatee and the mullet, now we're... How about Gunny saying, we're six to eight weeks away from the mullet. I made a massive mistake.

I made a mess. That was very cool of him to do his research. War Pig did eat eight. I mean, what a pull. I mean, that is phenomenal. Was that him over his shoulder in the... In the singlet, I believe so. Yeah.

He said, I wrestled for eight, nine years? Yeah. When? When did he... I don't know. Probably didn't play basketball. Was probably a wrestler. Football and wrestling

Oh you're talking like Amateur wrestling Yeah I thought he was No he actually was Intercontinental champion I wonder if Gunner was still So Gunner Gundy was

Is his kid His quarterback I think he's still I think he's Because he started a couple games Last year before Bowman took over He was probably sitting there In the office like feeding him

Oh my god Yeah because he had a couple He had War pick War pick Super kick You do this one You do this one It's a big deep cut deep cut that was awesome okay as expected guy who felt at home in myrtle beach is comfortable on this show as well yeah that kind of ties everything together growing mud how about him saying seven days i was in myrtle i don't know

if anybody's ever spent seven days in myrtletle Beach survived, I guess. I'd love to tell about it if they have. I'd probably pull them out of that place. Myrtle Beach is the place. Just for anybody that's never been, you should go. It is out of a movie, and it is a good time. And there's a few places you need to stop at. And then the late night bars, they're everywhere. Like the after hours bars are just its own business.

Just go ahead and walk on in a couple of those. Really get a chance to feel alive. Yeah, bring your own siggies definitely yeah king of the castle if you love state fairs which i do here i hold him in very high regard didn't have him as a kid didn't know he's existed go to one i love it myrtle beach is a place for you in the gandhi knows indiana state fair still what the what there it is, baby That Big Daddy That Big Daddy mug Had to have been added There's no

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by allowing us to do what we do for an actual living. It's the dumbest job on earth, but we're thankful for it. The Talks at Table is here. At Boston, Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Shout out to the mountains. Shout out to the mountains. Shout out to Ireland. We're coming soon.

I thought I saw a mountain on your shirt. I thought it was like a woods or a safari type thing. There's probably a mountain there. But it's just green because we're going to Ireland. Yeah, bingo. Green all week. We're going to Publin, Ireland. Hell yeah.

I cannot wait. A lot of live music, too. I think we're underselling how awesome the tunes are going to be. Are you talking about trad bands? Of course. You're talking about trad bands? Yeah, I know what that is, definitely. Trad band is a traditional band, I believe. Trad band. Yeah, and they are. Yeah, and I think what you were thinking of,

you could have taught Tay were in Top Hub, but trad bonds are everywhere. I do believe. That's true. Yeah. No bullshit. I can't wait for college game day to happen.

Okay, that's on Saturday. 2 o'clock local. 2 p.m. Eastern local. That's going to be after a 24-hour Irish baptism. You know Brian Kelly, when he did My Family? Yep. I cannot wait to hear what's coming out of my mouth

on game day. Especially when Seamus' big ass gets up there as celebrity guest picker and he starts saying, hey, Paddy! He starts doing, what's the crack?

You know, the whole, I cannot wait to see what we pick up from our trip to Ireland. Yeah. Because from the sounds of it, we're going to have a good time, meet a lot of people,

shake a lot of hands, have a lot of Guinnesses. Split the G, they say. I believe that is how they fill a pint glass up of Guinness, which you've got to get certified to do. Proper poor. Which you are. I have the certificate.

Yeah. I mean, I could fucking eat, and then I know the timing. It is a talent. Not everybody can do it. Need to get certified. Need to get certified. Need to go over to Arthur Guinness' fucking factory

in Dublin that I believe he's paying 10 cents a year for the space and property in which it is. For the next 100 years or something like that. You walk in there,

it's a museum. Very beautiful. Then you go upstairs into a little lounge in the back pub area and they teach you how to fucking pour a proper pint

in front of a real auctioneer. If you do it, they're very and then you would say to yourself well everybody probably gets a certificate that sounds pretty fucking easy uh-uh saw two people fail right in front of me how to go to the back of the line wow how to go to the back of the line embarrassed but they got an extra beer so they kind of played the system smart smart it is kind of smart maybe they felt like genius hmm i don't know maybe it was a third time doing the whole tour whole song and dance i laughed at them that they might have been the smart ones.

Anyways, I believe the Guinness is going to be available, and I believe the game is you fill up one of those pints, then your first swig, you try to get back, and you try to have it be right in middle of your G. Split your G in two. That's English, I think. Rip a dart. There's English people over there as well.

A lot of English people. I'm probably going to be bouncing in between multiple different. I could all wait. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here. Tone, college football is about to happen. I can't wait to get over there. He's a talented linguistic

with your voices. I am not. Wait until you hear what my accent sounds like. I can't wait to see how many times we get called dumb Yankees. The last time I was there, I was called a stupid Yank more times than any other country I'd ever been in my life. Foxy, I think Foxy experienced a similar thing. Least friendly country I've ever been to.

Ever. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Foxy. At least you won't be wearing a cowboy hat. Yeah, they're going to hate you. I've heard they love it. Hold on.

We were told that's a split. But we also might have been, that might have been like a, yeah, yeah, wear a cowboy hat. You all should. I might have been one of those. He went out of his way to ask, is that guy going to wear his cowboy hat? Yeah, he did bring it up out of nowhere. Yes, he certainly did. But Foxy, to your point, it was definitely the least friendly place.

We tried to go to a bar, just my whole family. Just wanted to have a couple of ice cold beers. And then literally the locals were like, no, you guys have to leave. Different bar. Bar owner came over, said, get out of here go somewhere else i gotta score the whole thing it was i i did have a sense of like wow this is awesome they're literally like get the out right well that's like it was old school to be honest yeah it really did feel like that but tutorial videos are saying that though they're like hey make sure you're not pumped about anything what do you mean? What do they say?

They're just saying, like, if you're enthusiastic about anything, then that's not very Irish. So don't be pumped. You just got to be miserable. And that's why I'm saying. We can do that. All you guys need to be smoking darts with me. Okay? There is a thousand percent chance I smoke a cigarette in Dublin at, like, whatever time it is.

Like, just for the phone. I want it to be one of those. Anyways, Ireland, we can't wait to get there. Past experiences from the only people that have been to Ireland in this office that are nowhere near each other. Two different stories. Similar. But I think we respect it. We appreciate it. But going in,

I think it's going to be quite a dash. Think about the amount of people these assholes think that they're like, oh my God, because we're taking over Mahan. Yeah, exactly. So regular there probably. So I can't be on this because, okay.

Coach Diggs sent me his Italian flag t-shirt shirt. That he wore at Italy Days? Yeah, I'm going to wear that over there and see how that goes That he wore at Italy Days? Yeah. I'm going to wear that over there, see how that goes. Have you seen Little Italy Days in Pittsburgh there? Oh, yeah. Coach Diggs had a sleeveless Italian shirt on,

white Ferragamo, just in the middle of a – I think it just got done raining, shorts on. A bocce tournament. Yeah, well, I think they probably won the bocce tournament. Oh, really? Did they beat the – The pepperonis? Yeah.

Oh, no. Did they beat the... What is it? What's that? The Penn Hills Pepperonis. Yeah, and then there's another one, right, with a D. I forget what town it is. No, that's their team name. Oh, yeah, that's Coach Dix.

But didn't they lose to the, like, Darien... What? It sounds like Dragons, but a couple letters are missing. What are you saying? Are you looking at... What are you saying about? I thought the Pepperonis lost to a bocce team named something with a D. Just to be clear, the Pepperonis is an actual team name of a bocce team. It is.

Back where we come from in the East Hills of Pittsburgh. I don't know what Connor's talking about. It's like that soda. The man in the middle there wearing the Italian sleeveless at Little Italy Days in Pittsburgh that survived a rainstorm in the middle there wearing the uh wearing the italian sleeveless at little italy days in pittsburgh that survived a rainstorm it appears and i assume two guys next to him i don't know those guys but i assume they uh i assume they like moots that's right yeah i don't know uh the man in the middle there is the president of the italian club where we're from and uh he's team captain of our bocce team which we're back-to-back champions.

Former. And then we lost to the Pepperonis from Penn Hills Town over. That's a real deal. Wait, is the Plums team his name? No, Plums team is different, you know, because it's a different name. Plum-Burjute. You're telling me Coach lost? Well, they got distracted by the Pepperonis.

It was the court. Remember, they had different rocks on the court. It was the size of the rocks. It was a roll. Come on. People are saying the plum pepperonis. That's not the team name. What is it then?

The plum what? Prosciutto. No, I know it's not that. I think we know. Is it the? No. It's not. You just got me in it.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is not a man that would ever say the word, two-syllable word that he's been trying to say here for the last five minutes. I haven't been trying to say it at all. Because if I was trying to say it, I'd just say, hey, their team name is the Plum. How'd your day go? Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion,

Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hall. A.J. Hall. We don't know because we are on the stage. Did you hear what he just said off mic there as he was muted by Franklin Nicholas Moroto in the back? No, you cannot hear him. And I'm curious as to what he was saying. You said two syllables. That didn't really even give me any hints.

Like, I need to hear it. How'd your day go yesterday, Hawker? What? After the show. How it. How'd your day go yesterday, Hawker? What? After the show. How'd the rest of your day go? He was trying to say that two different times there. What he's doing here is exactly what you think he's doing.

I know you grew up around zero Italians. I know that is the way it goes. Just know that we are represented in that department well and you need to watch your fucking tone. Hey, look, I to watch your fucking tone. Hey, look, I'm just asking a friend. We got Florio joining us in five minutes. Exactly.

I hope you're happy. He'll get it. I hope you're happy. He'll completely understand. I'm just asking a friend how his day went yesterday. AJ, that's different the way you said it there. Well, that's because I'm not asking him how his day went. I'm explaining what I was doing.

Okay, yeah. Joining us in five minutes will be Mike Florio. He'll have takes on everything that is involving of the technicality side of stuff and the things that are taking place. Can't wait to hear that. There's a league meeting coming up where they're going to talk about the new kickoff again and maybe make some decisions. There's obviously Sunday ticket stuff taking place.

And Florio's got a new book coming out September 3rd, available for preorder right now. And reviews are in. I will read them whenever he's on to see his exact reaction to this whole thing. Did you see Hard Knocks last night, AJ? Yeah, I saw not the whole episode. I saw a lot of good clips, though. I'm really enjoying this Hard Knocks episode because there's a lot of Caleb on it. Caleb, quarterback, potential future superstar.

Feels like I'm learning about the future of the NFL while watching Hard Knocks. I think that is one of the draws to this particular hard knock season. There's going to be other stories. Bajan's dad, the arm wrestler, was a part of last night. He's a dog. He's a dog. As is Tyler, the son,

who's starting for the Bears against the Chiefs this weekend or whatever. But the Caleb Williams story is fascinating. We learn about him as a leader. We learn about him as a human. And we also learn that, you know those butterflies people get? Yeah. Here's him last We learn about him as a leader. We learn about him as a human. And we also learn that, you know those butterflies people get? Yeah.

Here's him last night talking about it. What's your nervous level? Nervous energy gets to like scale of 1 to 10? Zero. I don't get nervous. Not since my first game of high school versus Gilman. I fumbled two snaps. Other than that, and I came back and threw like an out and up down the sideline. Other than that, play ball. The only people that are

nervous are people that don't know what they're doing. This dude knows what he's doing. He's completely ready. Seems to have the mindset and the moxie of somebody who is not rattled by anything. AJ gets in a big game, not going to worry about it because it's the same old, same old since high school. AJ, did you learn anything from that yeah well i mean you learn about his confidence and how he kind of used everything i wouldn't want to ask him what what did you do to overcome that nervousness like how all of a sudden you just realize you let it all go and it's not going to happen again so and also follow up to that how do you know you're not nervous like what if the field so you don't get you don't you're alec conald't feel. Well, you're, you can be, you can get anxious.

Like you get all juiced up, ready to play. But I think anxious is described by some people as nerves, right? Is that not similar? Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure. Because like, I never thought I got nervous. I was like, I'm not nervous. Like I'm about to go.

Okay. It's going to happen. So like, I, like the way I, this is going to happen regardless, but I do get that feeling of like excitement and like everything yeah that's how you handle yeah that's your nerve those are your nerves though like that is two different things so i wonder if anybody's ever told caleb like hey the way you handle nerves is not in like the devastating fashion where you're not going to show up even though he said yeah i felt like a negative nerve one time fumbled two snaps never doing that again it's never feeling that that'd be a good thing to flip on and off i also learned that all the conversation about him sucking the first couple series remember even lambo brought it up whenever we're like hey lambo caleb's going to

be the greatest player on earth right he goes everybody everybody needs to let's relax okay expectations need to be lowered because like you're putting a lot of pressure on this dude where there's already a lot of pressure and he had a couple highlights which is fantastic but first couple series when he was taking on Cincinnati Bengals number two defense not even starting defense number two defense three and out three and out three and out or whatever well Hard Knocks gave us a little intel do you know what's happening during those three and outs AJ no I did not tell me run it couldn't hear the damn play Williams is having trouble making a connection so is his offensive coordinator he cut out but i'm good

the office has been out of sync so far. My mic's cutting out, so I'm piecing it together. Ready to. Second preseason. Ball's incomplete, and the Bears have three consecutive three and outs. These guys suck. People say. Come on.

The mics are cutting out. What are they talking about? The mics are cutting out. It looked like you couldn't hear me when I was just running. It kept piecing together. No, it's not the sound. It cuts out. I changed the volume on this one to where I think you like it.

You changed this one? Yeah, I did. I changed the volume on this one to where I think you like it. You changed this one? Yeah, I did. I changed it down a little bit in volume. Because they were all high. With Williams' helmet fixed, an offense that looked on the fritz is now ready to roll. It's going to work, man. It's going to work. I'm right on time.

Here we go. The Bears have plenty of offensive talent the trip is finding ways to unleash them and now you know there's a snap i think we might know now and around what you say gets the corner to the 30 35 first down i think there's a trigger there potentially for cincy so we don't know but there it is hey the bears are going to be better man that's for sure well then look he can hear the play call so what can he do well obviously he knows where everybody's going to be pass the fence no problem great ball thank you that's good joe yeah i know we got the flag yeah i wanted to go dance in her face

But, yeah, I know we got to play. I wanted to go dance in her face. And then, obviously, the whoop-de-woo, scoop-de-hoo, how do you do, comes on the other side of that. So, basically, they're going through preseason problems right now. You know, the connectivity to the helmet was not 100%. And there's a way that that gets tested every single game. There's people that walk around. Their job, their actual job, is before the game, before the fans get in there,

they're carrying helmets and just walking around the field. Every part of the field they're walking around. Where could you possibly be? You're doing it. I think there's somebody up at a satellite up there kind of testing the entire thing. So when that guy comes over and hands that thing to him and he is being told that, hey, the connection's not working,

in his head he's got to generate why that's potentially happening because it's going to be on his head. that is oh yeah hey that is on him middle linebacker same exact thing right aj yeah it would happen all the time they would come they'd switch the batteries out sometimes twice a game like because they don't want the battery to die and if there is an issue yeah that person who there's one or two people that are responsible for those radios in the helmet like that's not a fun spot to be. No, both sidelines too, because if a way team goes out, home team's supposed to go out. If it's like phone,

any of the phoning system or any of the calling system goes out, if the way team goes out, home team goes out, if home team goes out, there's like a full-on comms deal, I think, that is kind of happening. And the people that are running that on the sideline, I think if you were to meet them, they are an awesome bunch of people.

Not a fun job. Got to be very loyal, very committed job. But whenever that happens, he gets to hear things. All of a sudden, they're back to being the Bears. So all the call for the demise of Caleb Williams in his second preseason game was just a technicality because the technology technically wasn't working. Why didn't he tell him after the first drive is my question well because he was calling his own shit yeah okay well i can't hear

you he's a little too cool calm and confident for me okay you need to say after drive one hey i can't hear you well i agree should have spoke up a little bit earlier he'll continue to learn that he's able to do that is this the first we're hearing about it though i like or did chicago make a big deal that's a good thing that they didn't come out right after the game. Well, you know, we didn't have comms the first three series. That's why we were bad. Caleb didn't come out and say it either. I love it.

I love that part that we're just learning of this. I agree. Completely. So, win, win, win, win. Seemingly, again, for the Chicago Bears. And I also saw Kevin Warren, you know, the former Big Ten president. And, you know, had to go through some choppy waters as the Big Ten commissioner. Yeah, there was a lot of things.

We're not playing football. Everybody else is. We're playing football again, but it's going to be late. And then that's tough. You know, unprecedented situation. Legitimately COVID, we can all agree. He becomes president and CEO of Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears in the middle of building a new stadium.

Here's some of the design process. All right. Let's dive into it. So we have a couple decisions we need to make. And this is something we just had good conversations with. Yeah. A little dirt gun. Yes, this is perfect timing.

So here's the difference. In these field suites, do we want fixed seats? Or do we want high tops with movable chairs? You can have some of these movable chairs in the back. I just think it gives it more class and kind of panache by having fixed seats. We're going to be very good. And the team we're playing, if the game ends up being good, there's going to be more time where people are standing up than sitting.

You see, they pay for the whole seat, but they only need the edge. That's right. That's what we're in the business of. And that's Ted Cruz, baby. Ted Cruz comes from the Kansas City Chiefs. He was our PR guy. Okay. Locked it down.

I mean, you're talking about the Ted Cruz penitentiary. Yeah. I hope they don't do the same thing, that owner suite. What are you talking about? The Chiefs did. Ohentiary. Yeah. I hope they don't do the same thing to that owner's suite. What are you talking about? The Chiefs did. Oh, yeah, well. I hope they don't do that. Ted Cruz didn't have a say, I don't think,

in what was going on with the kingdom over there with the Arrowhead. This time got another time. I was very surprised to see Kevin Warren making decisions for the feng shui of the suites. But that's what I'm talking about, attention to details, AJ. That's what a good organization is doing, attention to details should have john taffer in there should have john taffer that's the move talking about you it will yeah for the bar area is the bar loge area yeah john taffer's all over shut it down what if he walked into that meeting he goes what your football what

are you yeah you're a loser what funnel you you so I get what you're saying about the seats don't matter because they're going to be standing. But, like, what if they're 75 years old? You know, maybe they need a seat. We're going to get them up, too. We've got Caleb Williams. You ever seen him play football? When he can hear the play? Joining us now.

This guy probably has an opinion on this. Probably. Probably. He better. Well, it's pro football, so let's talk about it. Ladies and gentlemen, founder of said website, NBC Sports pundit, insider,

human, award winner, ladies and gentlemen, Paizano, author of Son of Mine, coming out September 3rd, pre-order available now via Amazon e-book. Mike Florio. Yeah, Florio! What's up, guys?

Kevin Warren's deciding what seats in Feng Shui we need in the back of the suites for this new... Panache. Good panache on this entire thing. I love it. With the Hard Knocks, with the Giants, we're seeing them talk about dealing with Saquon and public outcry and everything.

And then now on this Hard Knocks, we're watching them decide what seats we're putting in the suite and also learning about Caleb Williams. Feels like NFL Films is throwing a fastball right now, Florio, on hard knocks. I hadn't seen the third episode of the preseason hard knocks. The first two didn't compare well to the offseason Giants hard knocks. The offseason Giants hard knocks was great.

So it fell off a little the first two. No curse words. I mean, real life is rated R. No F-bombs, no S-bombs, no nothing the first two episodes. I don't know how last night went. The Bears didn't want to do this. And I think the Bears, somewhere high up in the organization, have had a hand in trying to make this sanitized and not interesting because they don't want to compromise or undermine what they're trying to do. But I will check out, with your endorsement, I'll check out episode three and I'll keep an open mind.

You're okay. We'll send you a couple clips. We'll send you a couple clips. I watched, I enjoy it, obviously, because it feels like you're back and you can learn about these people. And we're learning about Caleb at a, you know,

a very rapid rate as opposed to what we had originally heard about him, which was just comments from people on his team. Who's his team? Remember what that was? Yeah.

His entire last year at USC. His team says he wants a percentage of a team. He might hold out to go to a different place. He wants to do this. He wants that in the NFL. And it's like, hey, team, they need to shut up because I'm starting to hate Caleb. I'm starting to hate Caleb for what the team is saying. And then Caleb talks, and the way he acts, literally sends his own.

It's like, this guy's the guy. He's the guy. You feel that? I feel like he's the guy in perfect for chicago we spent time with the scouting combine and i was blown away by the personality the maturity the commitment to the craft the guy who's just stepping into the nfl for the first time and is already sensitive to the various things that he needs to do to get the most out of his talent at some point between his arrival and his retirement. And the thing that impresses me,

and I was glad to hear the clip about the communications issues because it was a slow start on Saturday, but this is the first guy, and bear with me on this. I've been saying for years that Patrick Mahomes is going to revolutionize the way the position is played because young kids are going to see how he plays and going to emulate him. Caleb Williams was 16 when Mahomes landed on the scene. This guy's playing the position like Mahomes plays it. The movement, the throws, the ability to create extra time to freeze defenders because they never know when that laser is going to fly by their helmet. This stuff is incredible. And you could just put 15 in red in place of Williams for these past few plays and it's the same guy well I mean I love that and comparing anybody to Patrick Mahomes right now

is obviously going to be tough but it's part of the job in description especially whenever you see plays like this happen look at this play this is the defenders don't know when he's going to throw it so they don't go to tackle him because they're afraid he's going to throw it right past them because he's shown he can do it. Bingo. Love it. Versatile, can do it all, can run, can throw. Definitely superstar. And it feels like in between the years is the guy as well from everything we've learned.

And that's the difference between like Tom Brady. People say this is the next Tom Brady. It's like, well, in between the years, Tom Brady is a cerebral psycho. Like that is in a good way, not a bad way. Work ethic, attention to to detail everything that's going into his body he's literally counting and weighing everything going out every practice he's the first person in last one out we'll take less money so his team can i mean like this guy's the next tom brady mate he could throw a ball and he's as tall as tom brady got it i get what you're saying

patrick mahomes same shit it's like in between years, money, how his team views him, how his community views him, the decisions he makes, when he plays his best football, all that. Yeah, okay, this guy. But it feels like this guy is that fucking guy, though. It really does. So it's almost like that's my firm belief about us comparing people to the past because it's hard to read what a person's mindset and brain is like.

But it's like from what we've learned about this guy, it's like the NFL is loaded for however long he wants to seemingly play in chicago that big of a market pison they've needed it they have needed it the nfl has got to be like so pumped about the success of this guy if he has it for that city that market that they haven't had for a while being electrifying first of all i love the s bomb on the graphic you've given me inspiration for my own show because we'll slip in a little shit from time to time. But it's never been on a graphic. So I have much respect for that. And as it relates to the Bears, we were in Chicago five years ago for the first game of the regular season, Bears-Packers, NFL's 100th season.

I'd never been to Chicago before. Chicago feels like Pittsburgh and New York City slammed into one. It's got that vibe of a small town, but it's a huge city. And it just oozes football. And it's like, man, these fans, for what they've been dealing with, yeah, they had the 85 Bears. But for the most part, in my lifetime watching football, the Bears have been bad more often than they've been good. And they've never had a great offense, even when they had Walter Payton. And everybody knew Walter Payton's getting the ball. They couldn't put together a passing game to compliment 11 defenders chasing Walter Payton everywhere he went. This is new for them. And to have Caleb Williams and you pair him with DJ Moore, Roma Dunze, Keenan Allen,

you got DeAndre Swift coming out of the backfield. They've got the potential to have a great offense for the first time in the 52 years that I've been paying attention to the NFL. And that is a beautiful thing for the Bears. And that may help them get the public money they're looking for to build that stadium with Defeng Shui and the suites and all that other stuff. It ain't free. They want some taxpayer money for that. Yeah, well, son of mine, you know, let's move some books. Maybe we pay for some seats in the back of the suites available September 3rd. Let's go. Let's move some books. Let's move some books maybe we pay for some uh seats in the back of the suites available september 3rd let's go let's move some books let's move some books bison this one's a good one what was the review hold on hold on i got uh i found a review of son of mine available um september 3rd pre-order right now this was from kirkus reviews okay they're the fox kirkus

we don't know but real deal big brain yeah real deal they do you have you heard have you heard of carcass reviews paizan they're a big deal in the publishing industry they're a big deal and it's not easy to get a good review okay it is a high bar to get a good review ever in life like i think that is unless you know the right people and then it seems like it comes very easily but nonetheless in most things especially if you're venturing into a new uh career like being an author like florio with his second book i believe out could be more nonetheless kirkus reviews kirkus fucking knows a fast-paced mob family saga with compelling characters great, and hard-boiled vengeance. Hell yeah.

Wow. Wow. What a sell from Kirkus. This son of a bitch can move books. I need to give him a cut. I really don't know what hard-boiled vengeance is. I was telling Rich Eisen this yesterday. Like, it's hard-boiled, soft-boiled, poached, soft-scramble.

Like, I don't know what that is, but it sounds good. I'll take it. You know what else sounds good is panache. I just looked up or just got sent the definition. Panache means flamboyant confidence of style or manner, which. Pizazz. Pizazz. I need these seats to have pizazz.

I wish he would have said that, but instead it's panache. All right. Let's move forward in the conversation. Good luck on moving that book. Good luck on moving that book. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. Go ahead, AJ. Florio, I know the league, they're going to be meeting here before the season starts

about the new kickoff situation. What's your thoughts on the new kickoff rule and how it's going? And can they actually make changes this late, like before the season? Like, how does that all work? There was a conference call on Monday where the league had a couple of different executives available to answer questions from the media. And I asked, is there a chance that we see the touchback point when you kick it off into the end zone or out of the end zone on the fly? Could it move from the 30 to the 35?

Because my concern is coaches are looking at this and the average return position, the field position to start these drives, is like the 28.3. Just give up the extra 1.7. Put it at the 30. I don't have to worry about a long return. I don't have to pin my career on some screwy thing happening that keeps me from getting to the playoffs. Now, they said that it's not likely that it'll change, but they didn't rule out changes being made down the line. And I don't like the idea of changes happening once a season starts. I think you've got to respect the integrity of the season.

You can't have the touchback point be the 30 for the first month and then say, oh, we're not getting enough returns. Let's make it the 35. Hey, hold on, though, because as you were explaining that there could be coming some change down the road, and then you talked about how middle of the season you wouldn't want to see that change. How come, though?

It's a brand-new play. Everybody knows that. So it wouldn't be like, would it be just because how middle of the season, you wouldn't want to see that change. How come though? It's a brand new play. Everybody knows that. So it wouldn't be like, would it be just because the end of the season isn't the exact same as the first season when it comes to this particular play? Maybe somebody would get an unfair advantage. What do you, what like, cause I don't think they're going to change it either. We all know the NFL. They're going to at least let this thing ride for one year.

And what we're going to see is a weird kickoff looking thing and a bunch of touchbacks to all the points that you made and also just as kicker it's like having conversations with special teams coordinators still in league before kickoffs in real situations it's like hey we can't give up return here at all no reason for it like no reason right now make sure this is a touchback we need this thing out of here. It's like the 30-yard thing. Nobody's going to adjust it. So the NFL's not going to change it before the season. We all know how they kind of operate.

But if it gets through the first eight weeks and it's just the same shit and it just looks weird, it's like it's almost doing more of a detriment to the kickoff play as opposed to trying to save the kickoff play. That's kind of my angle on that thing. That's why I would like to hear like a, because if they change it week nine and there's a memo hey touchbacks come out to 35 now like just to try to save this shit like i've tried to i've kind of tried to wrap my mind around that already

happening but i am very open to a counterpoint on why i don't think it would be like fair or maybe the integrity would be questioned in that whole thing historically they don't like to change any rules once the games start because you want the full season to have played out under the same rules. So it's the 30 from week one. Once you start down that path, games are influenced by that. You don't want to change it to the 35 halfway through the season, even two or three games into the season. That's why they have the chance next week. AJ mentioned the meeting. The meeting is primarily about this private equity thing they're trying to do. But I reported today at PFT, it's on the agenda. The kickoff discussion slash update is on the agenda. It doesn't mean there's going to vote, but once you've got 24 owners or 32 together,

all you need is 24 and they can change anything they want. Three-fourths of the owners can come together and say, we want to do this. And I'd like to think they'll understand where this is going. And I think some of the coaches are keeping their cards close to the vest because they just like to get through to week one. The rule is the rule. Kick it out of the end zone. We don't want to play this game. We don't want these returns.

We don't want this new formation. We don't want to be the guinea pigs for it. Just give them the 30. If you make it to 35, then we we got to put the ball in play. So I think that if the owners really understand what's happening, if they talk to enough of the coaches, they'll get the same sense I've gotten. That by the time week one rolls around, a lot of these coaches are going to be kicking it out of the end zone. Absolutely. You just signed a guy to cover kicks for you. You already have him on the punt team in a spot where he doesn't know how to block. then you add in a couple kickoffs and it's like if this dude accidentally peaks this way are you gonna let

like that's a wild that's oh we're saving a kickoff though hell yeah remember you don't have to practice it either that's another reason to kick it out of the end zone if your standard approach is we're kicking it out every time you can take that play the kick coverage play and you don't have to waste a single rep of practice on it all year long. That's another reason to do it. Move out to the 35 team. That's all. Tuesday.

Tuesday. They can do it Tuesday. The owners can do it if they want to do it. You guys can do it. Why don't you do it? Save the play. We love football, don't we? I mean, we love special teams.

Special teams is for us three phases. Let's not get to a point where we feel obligated to eliminate one of them because we institute a rule that wasn't going to affect anything except for make the play look worse. Because now whenever people go to the bathroom during kickoffs, they're actually going to say, that's fucking weird. And then they're going to go to the bathroom. So we don't need that being the situation with the new rule.

What we need is, oh, this is fun. This is a whole new ball game. And they're like, well, we've been comparing stats to, like, UFL, what they do. It's like, UFL kickers, no offense, there has been a few good ones, great ones that have come out of the UFL. Jake Bates, Aubrey, I believe, has kicked there. Taylor Rusolino has got an opportunity. Like, NFL kickers, if they want to kick a touchback right now,

that is just a layup almost at this point, especially with the way the rules are. So that's going to go to the 30. Anyways, speaking of rules, there's been some new ones maybe because of a ruling speaking from boston connor's mind yeah florio how do we feel about apple getting in on the sunday ticket obviously a lot of people aren't too happy that it's going to cost you know about 700 bucks to watch on apple cheaper on some other platforms so what are you thinking about that? And do you think that there's ever a day down the road where one platform will hopefully own just all of the games in maybe an NFL plus perhaps? It really is amazing when you think about the fact that simply selling it through

the Apple App Store, you get that 30% surcharge because you can still buy it through YouTube at the normal price. It's still a high price, but it's not six, $700. So I don't know why anyone would do that. Yeah. Maybe it's a little more convenient, but you're paying a lot more money for that thing. And I almost feel like in the aftermath of the NFL, getting the verdict thrown out the 4.7 billion, that would have become 14.1 billion. It feels like somebody's sticking a finger in someone's eye by throwing this six seven hundred dollar figure out there because it really is it really is obscene and nothing's going to change anytime soon the judge who handled that case just yesterday entered the judgment order no change is made it all goes forward the way it is the nfl is

not forced to do anything it'll continue to play out in the courts. What was it? What did you guys say? Too expensive. Oh, okay. All right, sweet, sweet, sweet. How about this one? Fucking more.

Boom. How about that? That is a, we're a business. We're allowed to do and charge whatever the hell we want. Yeah. Okay, that is how this whole thing goes. That's how it will go. But hopefully through the ruling in the process,

there is a way in the future to figure out how you can, I don't want to say pay-per-view, but get a game that is maybe something that you don't normally have. And if you don't sign up for any of these, you wouldn't be able to get. So maybe a pay-per-view model down the road for certain games for people out of market or out of town or something, but hopefully they'll figure it out.

But yeah, when that number rolled out, I thought it was a fake tweet. When I read the tweet, I'm like, with what just happened, that can't be. And then you look into it, it's like, yeah, we are operating businesses. We had a plan, you know.

This thing would have changed plans, but it's, right? Judge took that, fucking threw it all the way. Yeah, no thanks. So guess what we get to? We're still doing the plan. The NFL's going to be king for so damn long. Who's all going to be a part of it, though?

Are the San Francisco 49ers going to win a Super Bowl in the next few years? One lingering question, Ty. Yeah, Florio, over the last two weeks, we've heard that Brandon Ayuk's going to be a Brown. He's going to be a Patriot. He's going to be a Steeler. Oh, nope, he's staying with the 49ers. As we get closer to the season,

do you have any idea where he's going to end up, and when are we going to get some sort of resolution on this? My gut tells me that he falls into the same category with CeeDee Lamb and Jamar Chase, the Cowboys and Bengals receiver that one's holding out, one's holding in, Iuke's holding in, trade hasn't happened. I think the key is when is the deadline? Both sides have to agree on the deadline because nobody moves toward their bottom line position until the clock is striking 12. Because if you do it early, you get squeezed off of it when the clock finally does strike 12. I think what the 49ers are going to do, and the longer this goes without a trade to the Steelers, which seems to

be the only team left, and think about all the work you got to do to get him up to speed if you bring him in in late August. How's he going to be ready week one if he hasn't even been there? New team, new coach, new playbook, new everything. I think what's going to happen is whatever the 49ers have decided the deadline is to get him in the fold and ready for week one, right at that moment, they're going to make their best offer and they assume he's going to take it. But there's no reason to do it until then, because if they do it now, he can slow play it

and he can squeeze them for more when we really get to that deadline. And it's probably right around Labor Day, right? There's a break after the preseason. The players get a few days off. They come back together. They start getting ready for week one. I'd say sometime Labor Day weekend.

That's when this thing is most likely to get done. And I think at this point, it makes the most sense he stays in San Francisco because if the Steelers were going to get him, they'd have to have him by now or you're not getting anything out of him in the early part of the season. There's a chance that the Steelers continue to witness what they have at wide receiver right now and what the potential opportunity is as a quarterback and how good the defense is.

It's like maybe they will make one last-ditch offer as training camp continues to roll on to get Brandon Ayukuk in there and maybe they won't but like there are so many teams that were ready and willing fan base wise to get Brandon Iyuk on their team and it feels like there was only one possible outcome and that's him remain with the Niners Florio did you get duped in any of this shit from the sources that you had that he was potentially going anywhere it was chaotic for like six days straight full chaos of like report there was the amount of source offs with reporters reporting different at the same time was insane and then you know the beginning it didn't happen throughout and I think we talked about that a little bit the vlog post thing at the beginning like really ignited it all

too it's like oh we're about a it's like a reality show is happening. They're putting like real public pressure on this entire thing. I don't think they dropped much throughout the rest of that. But then there was reports every other day of a new landing spot. You've been around this business a long time, literally in the weeds of the rumors. Was this all, was this all bullshit? Was it, did it feel like this was all bullshit? And who, who would have been wanting it to be bullshit? Well, it went from being very quiet for a while. It got really loud for a few days, and then it got really quiet again. And I've learned the hard way over the last 23 years. In certain circumstances, it's better to just wait it out unless you are 100% sure what's going to happen. I think what went on, as Brandon Ayuk passed on some of these opportunities,

people needed to save face. People needed to leak what was out there, what they offered, whether it was the 49ers, whether it was the Patriots, whether it was the Browns. I feel like once doors were closed, that's when people felt compelled to say things to justify their own position. And at the end of the day, was it possible something could happen? Yes. But it was never finalized. It was never done, obviously. And in a situation like this

with that many moving parts and that many teams, the best course, unless you have a direct pipeline to exactly what's going on and you can trust that person, the best thing to do

is just let it play out. Wow. Those day-to-day insiders, man. I don't know how they exist. They battle. Literally. Like every day you could be potentially getting something that's, like, massive. But then also that could be partially true, you know?

And timing-wise. Oh. You got to wait on some stuff. You were never full-time insider. No, you were just always blogger, right? That was good. I mean, we break news, but, you know, I'll talk to the folks. Jay Glazer said something to me years ago that really resonated. I mean, we break news, but, you know, I'll do respect to the folks.

Jay Glazer said something to me years ago that really resonated. The only real journalism that happens in this space, in this NFL media ecosystem, is the stuff that they don't want us to know. I don't put a whole lot of stock in going to Twitter with somebody who's going to sign with this team five minutes before the team announces it. We're going to find out anyway in five minutes. I want to find out the stuff that they don't want us to know. That's the best stuff as far as I'm concerned. Because they're going to announce everything, all the stuff the insiders put out there. It all gets announced. That's awesome to think about you going.

How do you get that? How do you get that stuff, Dr. Glazer? How do you get that? How do you get that stuff? Dr. Glazer. Well, what you do is you develop a reputation over the years of being willing to say what needs to be said without regard to what damage it might do to your own self-interest. And then when there's something particularly controversial that somebody wants out there, they know they can trust you to be the one to do it.

There's a lot of stuff that gets out there that other reporters have the opportunity. Other people know about it. Remember a couple of years ago, the whole Sean Payton and Tom Brady, the Dolphins wanted to get both of them. Everybody knew about it, but nobody would say it. And we said it. And of course they said, no, this guy's full of shit. And then it happens. And of course they still say I'm full of shit, but at least that can't be the reason anymore when the Dolphins got whacked for tampering with Sean Payton and Tom Brady. It is an interesting game whenever you're wrong in the time, but you're being viewed as if you're right. And then if you are right at the time and you're being viewed as wrong at the time, it feels like the get back on the other side is never, ever equal as to what it was.

Hey, and that's day-to-day sports talk, baby. Amen. And we're lucky to be a part of it. And we appreciate you. As long as the check clears, like Charles Barkley said, as long as the postman shows up on the 15th and the 30th, I don't care. Okay. Well, I would like to talk to you about that particular mindset.

At some point, I think we could have maybe a cigar and a whiskey in your incredible lodge you got down there at West Virginia. Last question here because it is something that has troubled us, but I assume you'll have an angle for why it's potentially taking place. Go, Tone. Yeah, Flory, I was watching the Falcons preseason game and out comes Taylor Heineke to start the game, and I was a little confused.

I was like, did Penix get jumped on the depth chart? And then Penix just never came in. Have you seen a situation where a backup rookie quarterback, just they don't play him in the preseason? Have you found anything out there? Were you confused by that? It makes no sense whatsoever. Now, the fact that they made Michael Penix Jr.

the eighth overall pick in the draft, if they gave Kirk Cousins $100 million fully guaranteed as a practical matter, makes no sense either. So it's hard for those of us who have some sense to make sense of things that make no sense and to predict what they're going to do next. But look at the potential explanations for this. Let's say they got freaked out by the J.J. McCarthy season-ending knee injury. Maybe that's the case. They haven't said that. They've said we've seen enough from Michael Penix Jr. Maybe Kirk Cousins isn't ready to go for week one and they want to have Penix ready in the event that

the whole Achilles thing and he's 36. Maybe we to use pennix maybe they don't want the groundswell to continue they don't want fans they don't want media they don't want players they don't want the owner putting pressure on them to go with pennix that could be an explanation so there has to be a reason for it it makes no sense for a guy who supposedly isn't going to play all year to not play in two games that are his last two opportunities in theory to get any reps in his rookie season. So maybe they're overthinking it, but it feels like they got something up their sleeve and we just sit back and wait and see what they're going to do. Yeah, I'm excited to see what they end up doing because obviously we all had questions about what happened on draft night. then obviously bill belichick was available and all the shit that came out from that so it made a lot of us wonder and i i think

we could all admit this saying what what are they doing now why would you give 180 million dollar deal 130 i think or maybe 120 million guaranteed to kirk cousins they off of an achilles and then in doing so before he's ever met even met like the people that are in the cafeteria or the training room, strength staff, coaches, doesn't even know. You draft a guy top 10 to be the future of your league, and he's a very good player. And it's like you bring him into the fold. Now you're like creating chaos almost for yourself. So everybody's having questions.

If it ends up working out for him, though, they're the geniuses. If Kirk doesn't make it through the season, if Kirk can't start, they got this. They're the genius. But what they've been doing as of late late I've been a big fan of the moves Judon coming in and being like I'm cool with not signing the contract I gotta prove myself to this they had to recruit him and tell him that that had to be a that was obviously very understood in conversation because I think a question that AJ's about to bring up is happening right in front of our face bringing in Simmons on a one-year deal Raheem obviously do it feels like the Atlanta

Falcons for all the like what the the penneem obviously doing it. It feels like the Atlanta Falcons, for all the, like, what the, the pennants, what are they doing? There's also, like, the, wow, they seemingly are recruiting guys that they want and building a culture. Fascinating situation. But speaking of those, they happen all the time. Go ahead, AJ. Torrio, yeah, Pat mentioned it.

Hassan Reddick and the Jets. What's going to happen there? Like, who's going to budge first? Are we going to see him play? Is he going to play for the Jets? Like, what happens? This one's strange. And, look, I continue to beat this drum. If you have a guy who wants a new contract and he's with a team and you can potentially trade for him, you got to resolve that on the way through the door. You can't give up trade assets.

This is happening right now with Judon. I mean, this is happening right now in our face. But Judon accepted it. Judon said, I need to prove myself. So he's willing to show up. And that's where Hassan Reddick really gave up his leverage. He just could have refused to show up for the physical they took way back in March when they did the trade. And then the trade doesn't go through, and he's still with the Eagles. And he can say, I want my money. So both sides are being stubborn here.

I'm assuming that anybody that may have been interested in trading for him would have called last week when the Jets come out and say we're not trading and they're basically telling the other 31 teams, hey, if you're interested, give us a phone call. But this guy wants more money, $14.25 million below what he's currently worth. Jets don't want to do it. Somebody's got to blink. And here's the real question. It's one thing to rack up fines. You start missing game checks. I mean, I don't have the math right in front of me, but 14.25 million divided by 18, you're getting close to a million a week that you're going to lose by not being there. It makes you wonder when he's going to cave and just show up

and how many game checks he's going to miss. Yeah, and will the Jets trade him? You know, maybe they do get something. And what teams, you know, would be excited to get him? I think there's been a lot of people that have been signed to teams before if you can get to a quarterback. And Son Reddick can definitely do that. You will be forgiven. Bears were in it for Judon. So I'd like to think the Bears are at least considering the possibility of making the phone call to see if Reddick could be available. Yeah, that'd be a

good Hard Knocks episode. And it sounded like they talked about giving Judon money in that little kind of clip from Hard Knocks talking about like what the contract would be for judah so kevin warren obviously would have to approve us on reddit coming in correct if dude he's he's approving the the feng shui of the suites what a gig did you know that i didn't know that about kevin warren did you know that about his role with the chicago bears florio hey when you're the ceo you're in charge of everything, baby. President and CEO. The feng shui, the pass rusher, the toilet paper that you use

in the bathrooms at the stadium, you're in charge of everything. General Bob Carpenter was outside that guy's office. Throwing bricks through his window. No, he did not. No, he did not. That's not true. I think it was RPGs.

Yeah, it was not true. Book, Son of Mine, comes out September 3rd. Available for pre-order right now. This man has obviously covered the NFL for a very long time. We appreciate that. But has a talented brain to pen. These books are great. And Kirk says fucking laid it out.

Isn't that cover awesome? My nephew, Anthony Zeech, did that cover. I love that cover. It's simple. Not a lot of words. It just looks good. We call him sketchy. It's simple and not a lot of words. It just looks good. We call him sketchy. It's got great feng shui.

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Yeah. Come on. Yeah, but Tony Pencils? You know, when you got one in your family? Tony searches, I think, AI. And potentially, not just him. I think this is the new. Oh, yeah. Graphic designers thought that

they were going to get replaced I believe by AI because anybody can just go ahead and search and a graphic can be made. I think instead what has happened is the graphic designers got on a group text and they said hey we need to utilize this AI as a tag team partner and then all of a sudden

we're all better than ever because what this ai can do if you get it with like a talented designer got some good shit right around the corner game changer yeah tony sketches tony siech is in the middle of the whole thing even like he did that by hand obviously not with tony yeah yeah tony siech of course but not the others but you know what i'm saying yeah i mean even grok now you You can put in a prompt. Like, I can do a picture of Pat McAfee as Mario, and Grok can spit out that type of image. And it's pretty solid, pretty good entertainment.

Pretty good entertainment, yeah. I saw Mario and Luigi smoking a bean the other day. It was pretty awesome. Well, I watched that movie. Like a green bean? Mario and Super Mario? Great movie. Dude, sick, right? Good movie right good movie yeah i mean made over

a billion dollars the way it makes sense i did not know that but yeah i was watching it and uh great flick yeah very good i mean the way they tie in the whole everything everything i mean they're making a bunch of them that believe me that's just the beginning genius that's like wreck it ralph i believe i watched one time and i was like this is just a genius concept because obviously they all hang out at the power surge bar genius the router it's just so smart so it's like it's been sitting there this whole damn time and they do it the the mario one is he's fan is that chris pratt yeah chris pratt uh beth from do they do accents do they do accents? Do they do accents? They do.

Oh, yeah. People weren't happy about his. No, they weren't. Why? He made a billion dollars. They can be mad all they want. I mean, Jack Black's in that cast. Michael Keegan.

That's a great cast. And then also, I forget his name every single time. Michael Keegan? No, Michael Keegan. Keegan. Keegan. You're a Jack Black guy. Who are you talking to? For now.

I love Michael Keegan. Michael Keegan's best You're a Jack Black guy. Who are you talking to? For now. I love Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton's a Pittsburgh native. I don't know what everybody's talking about. Michael Keaton's a Pittsburgh native? Yeah. Batman. Birdman? You mean Batman?

And John Studd. Yeah, Big John Studd. Of course. That's right. He's from Butler, PA. Beetlejuice 2 is coming out. I love that. AJ, I don't know if you got a chance to see our favorite coach describe what he feels like

because Justin Herbert is back. Ladies and gentlemen, Jim Harbaugh is on a microphone again. Right? Now. Now. Great. It felt like the music should be playing. I haven't thought I felt... I thought I heard music.

Voices of Angels, maybe. It felt great. It felt great. Go back to the beginning of that. Let's run it back one more time because he said, I thought music should be playing. And then he says,

I heard. I thought I heard music. Got it. Great. It felt like the music should be playing. I even thought I felt, I thought I heard music. Voices of Angels maybe

It felt great It felt great All of this Obviously all year long I cannot wait for that AJ Legit I mean I like how he transitions Out of those too

Alright okay And then he walks off usually Because there's no real follow up That's like Lane Kiffin yesterday With his Coca-Cola That Coca-Cola situation Oh man Any questions

That was great Alright Should not drink this at all. This fat's all I drink. Chris Lowe, I know that fat. I don't let fat ass drink. That was an unwarranted shot at that guy. I'm so pumped college football is back in a few days.

Thank God, man. This offseason, I don't know if you guys feel this way. Long one. This offseason has felt like three years. It's been a long one. In comparison to others. I don't know how because with the Olympics and everything, but offseason has felt like three years. It's been a long one. Yeah, in comparison to others. I don't know how because with the Olympics and everything, but this one has felt.

Well, we've been through some stuff, mostly because of dumb shit that I would say. But the question I was going to ask Rich, if we had more time. I wish. He's still pretty pissed about that 40, by the way. He is not conceited to shift. He's not happy. Well, from the angle.

He was closer to where the camera was. It was his third run of the day. Third run of the day. He was more than shifty, though. Yeah, he's two yearsited to Schefter. He's not happy. Well, from the angle, you know. He was closer to where the camera was. It was his third run of the day. Third run of the day. He's worth it. He's more than Schefter, though. Yeah, he's two years younger than Schefter. I think that's a big surprise to that call, though. But I was going to ask him about, you've done this for ten off-seasons then.

You know, and he's been covering with SportsCenter longer and longer, all year, all off-season. And he can still run like that. Both of the guys' knees and hamstrings should be very proud of themselves. The way they're able to just drive. The trip at the end. I'm sorry. The trip at the end from Shefty. I thought he was

leaning to try to win, but he wasn't leaning. He was just trying so hard. He just went down. Oh, he saw the Noah Lyles. Yeah, you're right. He wanted to lean, but his right foot just dug into that turf. See, Rich, I think, kind of kicks his ankle a little bit. Oh, he does? A little slew?

Yep. He was trying to know, allows that, I guess, make sure he can secure the dusting of Rich Isaac. He was not thrilled with the way you described that particular race. But both those men should be incredibly proud that they can run 40 yards at that pace, at that clip, at that age. Without a doubt. Phenomenal stuff.

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Nailed that thing. Let's go. I think I stuck it in there. With the college football guy. Yeah, good little promo. Yeah. Good little promo for the college football guy. Fantastic.

It is a great guide. Great guide. Legit. Legit. Good little promo for the college football guy. Fantastic. It is a great guide. Great guide. Legit. Legit. It should be on the shelves. It should be on the shelves like at Walgreens next to the other ones. What'd you say? Yeah, I had the same reaction.

What? Is that 100,000 copies sold? Turn bought 90,000. Turn bought 90,000 of these things. 10,000? Hey, 10,000 sold. 95,000, 94,000 sold 95,000 90,000

People should read them People are reading them People are giving us Kirk's reviews on them Who's Kirk's reviews We all know Kirk's They're like the rotten tomatoes It's not just throw around Siskel and Ebert brother Well I think one of them's dead

Fuck I think they're them's dead. Fuck! Yeah, it's going to only give one thumb up now. What's that? I think they're both dead. No, no. Long dead, yeah. No.

Sounds like there's a vacancy in the industry. One couldn't leave without the other, brother. No, but wait a minute. So they had four thumbs, right, combined. We don't know their whole story, I guess. But they... We don't know. Yeah, they might have had a couple. They could only have three thumbs

Between the two of them You're true You're covering all your bases there You don't know how one likes to surf or something We don't know what they were doing With their other two thumbs Shop class in high school We have no fucking idea

But let's assume they got four thumbs Between the two of them They would give four thumbs or would it just be two? No, so it was two. They had the market cornered. I mean, if Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs up, it was a banger. Yeah, but does that mean they gave it two thumbs down too? Ebert ended up just going to the star rating.

He wasn't big on the thumbs. Yeah, that was more Siskel's thing. If they gave four thumbs up. So Siskel and Ebert didn't do thumbs? I'm sure at one time they did. It was their gimmick. If you read any of Ebert's reviews, there is no mention

of thumbs. It's a star rating. It's a lot of four stars. So you're saying that the gimmick of the thumb thing not real? That was for the show. There was a show, a half hour show called Siskel and Ebert. And Siskel died in 99, so I'm assuming Ebert didn't want to throw one thumbs up after.

But he could still throw two. We don't know. Obviously, we don't know. But we're saying he could throw two. No, there was never an option of four. It was two. There should have been. Two was the best you could get. Sounds like this is going to be your favorite show. This is what they did. Holy shit. One of them died in 1999, the other in 2014.

Those are real thumbs. Those are real thumbs. Holy fuck. Those are the biggest thumbs in the biz. That's why you didn't need more than two, brother. These guys could hitch a ride anywhere. Tell you what, they did well at the bar. I mean, a thumb war is a nightmare.

Yeah, you still got to get it. I can fucking finger that thing, the bass. I don't know. I can fucking get that. Right. It weighs 10 pounds. Did anybody, has everybody ever, any, has anybody ever thumb whored without doing the, like, I don't understand how.

Oh, yeah. Oh, you can't bring it inside? You got no sidecar? You double jointed or no? It's hard not to just, as soon as we're staying, okay, we're holding hands now. So I'm going to fucking do this. You're going to say, oh, you cheated. We're going to have a full scene and then we're going to get out of here.

Yeah. That's how it is. You know? You got to dislocate your thumb,'re going to say, oh, you cheated. We're going to have a full scene and then we're going to get out of here. Yeah. That's how it is. You know? You got to dislocate your thumb. Double joint it. Fucking wrap that thing around. You're popping that thing backwards or sideways? Both.

What do you mean? You're going whoop-de-woop? Depends on what the strategy calls for. I'm not kidding. What kind of defense are you facing? A lot of Kenny Wood doing the whoop-de-woos. None. Oh, I haven't seen any of those.

I've only seen like maybe two things moving that were actually moving. I'll have you know kenny the kangaroo has autographed something it's on my way from what i've been you should not bring him up you should not bring him up because then all of a sudden a picture pops up of old ken no it's not great that's yeah and his autograph is on his way to the thunderdome i've been told on good authority that kenny the kangaroo sending me a kennywood sign autographed for the office. That's pretty cool. That's hospitality. Just like they're opening it up all night, lowering prices for families to come through.

Do you see the ride at the Indiana State Fair that was just a whoop-de-woo, and you legit just go and whoop-de-woo over and over again? Is there a roller coaster? Yeah, it's a roller coaster. It was also put together by a whoop-de-woo as well. Well, but that particular whoop-de-woo does a good job i don't think there's been many deaths on any rides at state fair although they had a stage situation a few years back the um the fair rides are a

decision that's a bad decision yeah oh yeah people die on those oh yeah oh yeah every weekend every day not every weekend i think they've gotten better but like but it happens yeah it happens it certainly happens at a much higher rate than i thought once again did not grow up with state fair shit so my first time seeing these things was as an adult now my brain wasn't fully developed but it certainly had opinions when i saw these things for the first time in the middle of a parking lot we're in the middle parking lot i got the person at the front who's a great salesperson if they had not made the 15 to 20 bad decisions that they had made before they would have been phenomenal sales people business people they would have been great just having to make some bad decisions now they're touring

doing the entire thing so they built it obviously i got faith in them but one person putting together something that has like 60 screws in both at least and then high speed and then how about the one that goes like this it's like okay so we're 100 sure that the science of this thing that was just put together is good for me to go upside down as it as it spins so so I'm getting dizzy and I'm upside down and just I could this thing could stop and get shot put it that's what people just go hold on them oh yeah you bet people just go right online for. Line for tickets was long. Long? Yeah, like diesel. Line for the rides. Think of the constant maintenance too.

The constant maintenance on those things. Every single day, you gotta do all that stuff. Dude, I couldn't even fathom. Dangerous. They get stuck, obviously. That happens. That's what I worry about. Getting stuck upside down. Yeah, that'd be rough. I was at, what's the one in Ohio? Six Flags? Oh yeah, this one. King's Island,

you mean? This one is not cool. Falling Star. What happens here? Watch the bottom of the thing. Wind's blowing it a little bit. He's going to grab it and stop it. Get away. Superman.

More people are going to join in? Maybe it's supposed to go that way. Is something going to happen? Nothing actually happens here. I don't think. I just wobble. While these people are sitting up there, they see people running towards them. Oh, my God. And then you're trying to tell the person next to you, hey, we're going to die.

Yep. That's in Michigan right there. Now we've got six guys down here who are going to save us. There's ten. I appreciate all the Michiganians. Unplug it. Unplug it. Look at all the Michiganians signing up to take on the Metal Rock in momentum.

I appreciate that. Wow. Way to go, Michiganders. Michiganders, exactly. Holy shit. So what do they know? Is it making weird noises? No, the bottom of it is lifting up.

The bottom is flipping upside down. It's doing a wheelie. It's not supposed to do a wheelie. I thought something was the lever. This guy should just put down his fry Oreo. Okay, good for these people. Put down your funnel cake and hold the fucking thing. Put your full weight on it, boots.

Put your full weight on it, boots. This guy who comes in here at the end on the left, too, really helps out. So now they just make the people waiting in line stand there so it doesn't tip over, you think? I do appreciate the one person that is not helping. Yeah, watch this guy, though. Boom. Hold on. I got the left side.

I did it. I was there. Don't worry. This thing's not going anywhere. Babe, when that thing almost flipped over, what did I do? I ran right over that thing, and I fucking grabbed it. Didn't I? Tell them.

Tell them I did it. Thanks for helping out there, Michigan. That's good, Michigan. Nice. Yeah, Nick said that's Traverse City, Michigan. That's like the best area in Michigan. When Kid Rock says it was summertime in northern Michigan, that's what he's talking about.

People love that area. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It was the summer of 24 and I was riding the whoopie whoopie. All of a sudden I almost died. Big fat show came and saved me and he hopped up on the ride. What a time. Summertime in northern Michigan. What did we miss today? Michigan. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Bam, bam, bam, bam.

Bam, bam, bam, bam. What did we miss today? Today, not as much action in the sports world as days past. Yeah. We got some big action tonight, boys. Don't do it. Don't you fucking do it. Fucking League Cup semifinals, boys. Here we go.

Here we go. We're doing the soccer against other soccers. But the other soccer didn't win enough. So now it's our soccer taking on our soccer to find out who's the best in America and Mexico. Right? Yep. Columbus, Philadelphia, LAFC, Colorado. Fucking Ahu.

Columbus looking to go back to back. AJ should know. Doesn't sound like very many Mexican teams. Columbus looking to go back-to-back. AJ should know. Well, there was an equal amount of Liga MX teams, which obviously we have seen clips from playing soccer and also killing people. Riding.

That one fight that was in the crowd, that was absurd to watch, but Liga MX is the professional league in Mexico. The MLS is obviously the greatest league on planet Earth in soccer. They play a combo tournament against each other called the Leagues Cup. I assume you've got to earn your way in it. What is it? Top how many teams?

No, they hand out raffle tickets, and then they just fucking make a big report. I think everybody from both leagues is in it. Everybody from both leagues is in this thing. It's a massive tournament. It's going on for like a month. So it's two leagues battling, and there's no league AMX teams left in the final. Boy, I don't love that. Just for the safety of those guys who

are playing. I assume some of those captains are getting strung up in Mexico. No. You think they embarrassed the program? All of them lost to the MLS teams. I'm assuming there's some cartel members. They did win the All-Star game. And the skills competition.

That was watched by a lot more people. So the Philadelphia Union, the 14-year-old going to play or no? He'll probably be on the bench. That Columbus team is just running rampant. I wouldn't want to go with him. Why don't they play the fucking kid? No kidding. I don't know.

Because he's thinking about playing basketball. Right? Isn't he? No, he'd rather just go to school. He just wants to go fucking learn biology, go to study hall with his buddies. Why do you say that? He's just waiting to get to Man City in a few years. He's like, the MLS, this

kind of sucks. What? I don't want to do it. That's what he said. When did he say that? When he signed a deal with a different country when he was 13 years old? Yeah, they were like, hey, you fucking weren't in Mr. Peabody's class this morning. He's actually a really good teacher. I've learned a bunch today. And he was like, well, fuck. I should just go do that.

Instead of? Instead of being the MLS. I just want to be a regular kid. Why didn't he want to be an MLS player? That's what he said. I don't know why. P-Body's a good teacher. Are these actual quotes from Cav? I think I saw it somewhere.

I think playing in the MLS is an honor. I thought so too. The league is growing by the day, brother. You ever seen Mr. Peabody teach? He's fucking good. Einstein. He breaks it down pretty good.

That is funny that your angle is that the next one in America, maybe our first and best one ever, this guy needs to stop playing the sport. We need to get his athleticism into one of our sports. That's the toxic tables take. Get him breaking. Get him playing handball. Get him doing something that we're going to see. Because I'm sick of the fucking bullshit.

If he's good, he'll make more money in Man City than almost every sport. The heartbreak, though, of like, he's going to get on Team USA, and boy, we're going to go bananas. I just don't have any confidence in our soccer program. From Little League? Poch is at the wheel now, boys. It should be fun. Poch Torelli is going to have to show me something.

That's not his name. That's fucking Poch's pilot. That is not his name. No. Neither of that is his name. Pochettino. Pochettino. Pochettino.

Pochettino. Hechettino. Pochettino. Pochettorelli. He's a good gaffer. He was literally, out of the coaches that were out there, he was a very good get. Nice. Okay. Do we have any guys from Spain on our fucking team? No, we got American made.

Where are we made? America. Can your coach be from America? No, that's not how it works anymore, AJ. I think the big issue is... I think the big issue is a lot of these players... Yeah, but they're not very good. A lot of these players that go overseas aren't seeing that much

time. They're like sitting on the bench over there. You'd probably be better off just playing full-time in the MLS. Why? Then why did Cavs sign that deal to go overseas when he's 14? It's like, yo, what are we doing? sign that deal to go overseas when he's 14? It's like, yo, what are we doing? The goal is when he's 18, hopefully he's good enough

to play for Man City. Philadelphia Union. What about playing for Messi over here? Why wouldn't... I mean, I got nothing against the Onion. It's the Union. Fucking, we do it for the Union. Can you do both? Play in the MLS and then the offseason go over there? That's what Beckham used to do. Beckham did that when do it for the union. Can't you do both? Play in the MLS and then the offseason go over there?

Oh, like the WNBA. Beckham did that when he was with the Galaxy to go on loan to AC Milan and PSG. Yeah, but his documentary showed as soon as he left the MLS, he was like, please don't fucking send me back to the Galaxy. He just wanted to kill Landon Donovan. That's not real. That is 100% real. Landon Donovan treated him like an asshole.

What happened with him? Oh, you got to watch the documentary. It's insane. It's a great doc. And then he came back and the coach was like, listen, David, you're Man United. This is Landon Donovan's Man United, the LA Galaxy. And Beckham was like, please just get me the fuck out of here, man. I hate it here.

No way. Oh, yeah. Landon Donovan treated him like shit. What did he treat Beckham like? Oh, yeah. What does that even mean? Dude, he's in the documentary. What did he say? Carry my bags? No way Oh yeah Landon Donovan Treated him like shit Treated Beckham Oh yeah What does that even mean Dude he's in the documentary What did he say

Carry my bags He basically just like Bitched him When he was at LA He's like What the fuck is this How How did Landon Donovan

What are we talking New coach of the San Diego Wave Women's soccer team Landon Donovan Yeah Are they cool now I mean we should

WLS I think I think everything's fine now But Donovan was in the documentary they cool now? I mean, we should talk WLS. I think everything's fine now, but Donovan was in the documentary. Like, he says he treated him like shit. Yeah. Talks about it. Beckham couldn't just, like, give him a fucking noogie and be like, hey, this is my team now, dickhead.

Like, I'm the best. They gave me a percentage of the league. I'm the best player in the world. You play in the fucking MLS, all right? Watch it. Remember, the MLS is up now. They gave him $252 million to basically be the ambassador for the MLS. Watch it! Remember, the MLS is up now. They gave him $252 million to basically be the ambassador for the MLS. He was making a certain

amount of money per hour of his life that was hilarious. $50,000 an hour or something like that with the new MLS deal because they gave him a percentage of the league. That was supposed to be the big hit. I watched David Beckham. Did he dominate when he went to MLS? Yeah.

The way he was playing, too, was kind of electrifying. He was hitting long balls. He knew that everybody was there to watch him hit long balls because Beckham is like his free kicks. So he was just pipe. Yeah, he did great. Brought a lot of attention. So attractive.

Yes. Stud, yeah. So attractive. So cool looking. So I thought that was – I think a lot of people thought that was going to be the big one for the MLS. Fresh out of that World Cup, too, where he had like a 90-some mile an hour penalty kick.

It's like that was going to be it. And then kind of fizzled off, I guess, because – Yeah, Landon Donovan was making an eating boob out of mortified. What happened? What? Part of that deal was for him to get a team. So, like, now he owns Inter-Miami. So it is pretty – it all worked out. Yeah, but – Pretty big. and all the teams are worth way more now than they were back then so what's

landon doing right now he's doing what coaching the san diego wave and what is beckham doing right now uh he's owns inter miami um that's wild that that happened yeah it was i had no idea like i didn't remember that when i watched the dog i think he'd rather be the coach of the wave than own inter my hand yeah ride the wave brother own Inter Miami. Yeah, ride the Wave, brother. In fact, the athletes, you know. Fucking give back to the – who's really giving back? Man, I have respect for Landon Donovan. Who is giving back?

With the Wave, you could win the She Believes Cup. Can Beckham? What is it? The Wave can't win. The She Believes Cup. Don't even get into it. Please. It's a big one.

That's a big one. The United States obviously wins it all the time. Every year. Amen. And our next United States women's soccer team appears to be even better. We're still, I don't know if it's going to be even better. We should send them to the World Cup. Well, that's, yeah, that's, this team

is going to, I think this is going to be the team. The men's World Cup. Okay. Have them represent the United States. Okay. I like where your head's at because they're winners. Yeah. Can they do both? Can they play the men's and women's, you think?

We're not getting into this one. Not doing that. I mean, can you? Logistically. Logistically. We've already done it. We are. Logistically.

It's a year after. We've already been on the record, you know. All right. Hawaii is the story. Yeah, it is. Okay. College football kicks off this weekend. Biggest, best year of the year ever of college football.

Yep. 12-team playoff is going to change some things, obviously, but it's certainly going to make primetime games better throughout the entirety of the year. Teams are going to be able to lose one or two games and still have everything in front of them still which was not an option in college football for a very very long time for a lot of teams a lot of people say this is all going to favor the the high-end teams blue chip teams it's like maybe but also some of these teams that maybe

aren't as prominent you can lose a game two games and still potentially get an opportunity if you're in one of the conferences that is held in high regard now Now, with that being said, I don't believe that is the case for the Hawaiian team, but what we need to know is there is a gambling stat about this Hawaiian team that needs to be talked about and the world needs to know about it because Hawaii is obviously the greatest place on earth. Hawaii is the greatest place on earth. 100%. It is my favorite place to go. My wife's favorite place. It is so awesome. The people, obviously fantastic. Incredibly cool.

The weather, fantastic. Is everywhere perfect? No, but that place is damn close. If you go as a visitor, try to buy a house there. Most times I've visited out there. So that's kind of how I think it all goes. Love the place. Need them to be great this year so that's kind of how I think it all goes. Love the place. Need them to be great this year so that game day has to go to Hawaii.

Let's get a game day trip to Hawaii midseason. That'd be fun. With that being said, game day is phenomenal in their opener. Stone, this feels like a thing that more people need to know about. Yeah, so it's a unique situation this year. They're playing in week zero. The Hawaii program was almost ruined a couple years ago by a head coach. I'm not going to say his name.

It does need to be talked about. But I'm not sure if you remember the name, Timmy Chang. Great Hawaii quarterback. He is back. He's the head coach at Hawaii, and he turned things back around last season. So they are on the up and up. The 12-2 ATS, one of the losses, I believe, was in the last two years. Oh, no.

No, no, no. We're back. We're back. The 12-2 ATS, one of the losses I believe was in the last two years. Oh, no. No, no, no. We're back. We're back. The program is back. Now, with Delaware State, they actually had a bus snafu and they missed their flight out of LaGuardia or JFK. I can't remember which one. So I don't even know if they have made their way to Hawaii yet.

It's a long trip. After the bus snafu news, it went up to 40 and a half. I think it's back down to 39 and a half. But midnight on Saturday, this midnight Saturday, when we're flying back, this is going to be the game that we're going to have on. I think everyone should probably get some action down on the maybe minus 39. Strap in, boys.

We'll have the game on for sure. Like a midnight over. Midnight Eastern, sorry. That's a midnight Eastern body clock kick for Delaware State as well. Tough, tough body clock. That's a lot of points, though. A lot of points. A lot of points.

But Timmy Chang can put up points. Delaware State, I mean, come on. I didn't even know they had a school. Yeah. It's Hawaii by a thousand. And now they can't get to Hawaii? Yeah. I mean, that's a problem.

When you get to Hawaii and you pull out, like, the map, you're like, where am I? If you just do one of those, just, like, one of those, Hawaii looks real small and it's just blue. Yeah.

I mean, you are out there in the middle. Have you ever been, AJ? Long time ago, yeah, but not much. I think, like, I learned of it as a kid watching a Pro Bowl

when they were out in Hawaii. Yes. And it looks so awesome. Everything looks so awesome. I'm a big, like as a kid watching a Pro Bowl when they were out in Hawaii. Yes. And it looked so awesome. Everything looked so awesome. I'm a big love waterfalls guy. Love waterfalls. I think waterfalls are the coolest. Big, big fan of waterfalls.

Had a couple waterfalls in the woods where I used to potentially run through. Hell yeah. They were like destination places. Like, all right, let's go get to that. Boom, we'll go do that. We'll do that entire thing. So when you watch that Pro Bowl as a kid, it's like the weather was perfect. It looked like everybody was having so much fun.

It looked like football was being celebrated at the highest level. And then they do like some scenic shots. It's like that's the place, you know. So then I start – Oosahs start taking over the world. And it's like this is the place. I love it. I worked my ass off to get to a Pro Bowl, of course, no longer in Hawaii. We were going to do it in the cities in which's like this is the place i love it work my ass off to get to a pro bowl of course no longer in hawaii we're gonna do it in the cities in which the city bull is and nobody

knows you're gonna go to arizona which is also a nice place but you're gonna have to drive an hour and a half in a desert to practice come back and you're gonna build a cement walkway like some concrete like pro bowlers do like what the i thought we were doing dances under waterfalls uh we got some news out of delaware state football from stan beckton looks like vibes are still high Like, what the fuck? I thought we were doing dances under waterfalls. We got some news out of Delaware State football from Stan Becton. Looks like vibes are still high for Delaware State football, even after they missed their flight to Hawaii. Missed their flight, okay.

Missed their flight and having a problem with the flight. Two different things. I do appreciate a narrative being built about Delaware State not even being able to make a fucking plane trip. They missed their flight. So they didn't get to security on time. Or there was a technical problem and it was delayed. It was a bus snafu.

Apparently, I don't know if the bus broke down or whatever, but when they were driving from Delaware to LaGuardia or JFK, I can't remember which one it was, something happened with the bus so they didn't get there in time for their flight. Three hour drive from their campus to JFK airport. We're not flying you guys to JFK. And how much it is to fucking fly everyone to Hawaii?

How do you get everybody rebooked? How do you get a whole team rebooked on a flight to Hawaii? You got to charter. Were they chartered? I know they weren't chartered to begin with, obviously. So Delaware State had to put up a charter? Who's paying that? There and back?

Or no, I guess you get a commercial back. Can we Google Delaware State alum? Yeah, Mr. Delaware State alumni. Well, I think the President of the United States is from Delaware State, right? No, no. He's from the state of Delaware. The Blue Hen, too. Joe Flacco went to Delaware.

He may have paid for the boys. Delaware State. No, I know. But just near there. Yeah, but the rivalry between Delaware and Delaware State state can't do that can't support one to the other i wonder if there's any delaware state alum that were like called and this is a big one this is a big one we're gonna need you here when you big plane or four little planes to fly hawaii how far to flight oh ten maybe it had to be more than that boy from there from new york yeah they probably go la that's probably new york la la or new york dallas maybe new york to hawaii

i don't know call caesar i mean kaylin lowry could do it probably too was supposed to take 10 and a half hours jesus they left at 4 a.m on tuesday yeah it's got to be caesar it's got to be They left at 4 a.m. on Tuesday. Yeah, it's got to be SZA. It's got to be SZA. It's got to be SZA. Clifford Brown, also. Trumpet, jazz musician. Manny Davis, one of the best supersonics they had.

Let's say Teen Mom 2. Yeah, I don't know why we're not talking more about Caitlin Lowry. I mean, they made a ton of money doing that show. Who's this? 16 and Pregnant and Teen Mom 2. She started on it in 2017. They used to make appearances around clubs. Get $400, $500 bucks a pop.

Had to be Caesar. Delaware State was 1-10 last year. They're still dancing in a hallway after the bus broke down. Yeah, I think I'd like that 40. Yeah, I think I'd like it 50. Okay, so ladies and gentlemen, it is the first of the year. Tone, get that hammer.

We're taking Hawaii minus. 40, 38, whatever you get it at. All right. Doesn't mean it's going to be right. No. No, it does not. We are just saying we as a group here are doing this. Yeah, no doubt.

If you would like to ride alongside of us, hashtag Go Hoos. You know. Yeah. This might be the hammer down play of the century Are you willing to put that title Online Host of Hammer Down

Week one Week zero so Week zero We've been over this You know faith family football On my gambling record Do you remember when he was being so Hoity toity

Wouldn't pick a fucking Thursday night football game No Well actually I'm not putting it on my right no no week zero you gotta pick them all and i think there's four four games uh week zero so yeah i mean hammer down play the century okay century here we go long time lolita play of the century yeah there's there's days there's weeks there's months there's years there's decades centuries you're right hey with that being, it might be the hammer down play of the millennium. Wow.

Go 1000. Hey, I'm proud of you guys. We did it. We're starting to year off with a win. Hell yeah. Holy fuck, we did it. Because the last couple years

have been tough. Haven't it? Tough. Big time. They've been beating us down. That's something we really haven't addressed yet. These sports books

think they got us. They think they have us figured out with their AI machines and their fucking Excel spreadsheets and their feel of the games. Okay? Okay. Last two years, they've written them off. All of us. Okay?

There's been a couple people that have won. Those people will go on to be remembered as the greatest gamblers of all time. Yeah. Those people will write books about gambling, telling you how to gamble. But inevitably, there will be some page that you miss because they continue to win and you will continue to lose. They are called the Sharps. They are the ones that move the line. And there are very few of them that exist.

It's in the book. But this upcoming season is going to be our best one yet. We're going to see the field better than these sports books. Somehow, AI is going to get involved and AI is about to be our best one yet. We're going to see the field better than these sports books. Somehow AI is going to get involved, and AI is about to get fucking dunked on. Okay, they don't have the field that we have. They can't find the things that we can find. They don't know that a bus snafu after a 1-10 season

on a trip to Hawaii, let alone distractions, means hammer the Warriors. Yeah. We beat them this year. Amen. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We beat them this year. Amen. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.

We're in this thing together. Team on me. Hey, we win this year. Come on. Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. Ladies and gentlemen, we have breaking news.

Put your fist out. Team not on me anymore. Bo Nix, starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos. Congratulations, Bo. Here you go, Bo. This felt pretty obvious if you watched him play in his preseason games against the Indianapolis Colts whenever he got his first action in an NFL game. He was phenomenal.

Everything you saw from him was like composure, leadership, his body style, his ability to move, what he had to do in Sean Payton's offense. And then you hear Bill Belichick talk about Sean Payton's offense operating at a quick clip and obviously a fast pace, having to be able to make decisions and having to be able to put the ball on a dime, just like Drew Brees was able to do for a long time down in New Orleans. Bo Nix actually mastered that at Oregon last year and the year before that.

Fast pace, quick decision, having to put the ball on a spot instead of into an area. That's what Bo Nix was literally special at. And draft night, Sean Payton told us that immediately after their private workout with him, where he threw 80 balls, they got in the car, looked around and said, he's the one. This is the one. They draft him very early in the draft. He's had a lot of success in a lot of football from Auburn all the way up to Oregon. And this seems like a match made in heaven. Stid, you know, the stutum was certainly a piece that'll help out both throughout the season, but it was very obvious that this guy was the starting quarterback

from draft night, seemingly, if you listen to the way Sean talked, and then you watch him on the field. Congratulations to them. They got a guy, I think, now $83 million deficit in the salary cap over the next couple years. They're going to be, one hand is going to be tied behind their back a little bit in roster construction, but it feels like this guy is going to be the perfect fit for Sean Payton's offense over there in Denver, AJ. Yeah, why do you think that is? When they made the draft pick and we heard Sean Payton kind of sell us on why he loved Bo Nix, it made sense. We hear coaches try to do that at times, but when Bo Nix is there, when you look at him, for whatever reason, he does like, yeah, of course this feels like a good relationship. He seems like a Sean Payton guy. Maybe it's because he was in college for so long, he has all those yeah, of course, this feels like a good relationship. Like he seems like a Sean Payton guy.

Maybe it's because he was in college for so long. He has all those reps. I would imagine Sean loves all the experience and everything he has. But whatever it is, it seems like they kind of have whatever the head coach quarterback relationship is now. Who knows how it goes? But at least right now, it seems like the perfect match. It feels like he's like 26 years old. You know, like if he might be 24, 24. Yeah. So it feels like he's like a vet, you Yeah. He might be. How old is he?

24. Yeah, so it feels like he's like a vet, you know, because we've seen him play so much football. And then with Sean Payton's offense, I mean. He's Coach's kid, yeah, right? It's the whole Coach's kid thing. So, yeah, I'm sure Sean Payton loves ball, so he loves talking ball with Bo. Against the Colts, I mean, you could probably pull the exact play out of the Oregon offense

that he was 75% completion, clip, just bang, bang, bang, so much of it. There was this play where they just went, boom, quick out. So quick. The ball handling, that is not easy. And they're on like two-yard line or whatever, so it's just like a quick out. No matter what the DB does there, if the ball is put in the right spot, it's a touchdown.

Like that is just how it works in college. It's also how it works in the NFL unless the DB is like super genius and allowed to jump shit without even worrying about covering for an up that could potentially happen there. So unless the person has immaculate feel, which some corners have,

especially in the NFL, but other than that, regardless, it doesn't matter if that's a second stringer, third stringer, playoffs, not. That is unstoppable with how fast it comes out, especially if they have a little up cut involved at some point in the season. It's like,

they can do that whenever the fuck they want. It felt like a perfect fit, and it's seemingly already going to start. Well, everyone just assumes that's super easy, but then, like you said, if that's not put in the right spot, it's going 99 yards the other way for a touchdown. I mean, it is.

He did the whole basketball on grass thing or whatever at Oregon, but it's preseason, obviously. He's looked... He's fast, too! He is. How about how fast he is? I don't know why I thought he was... He looks like 6'2", 215. Like, he's perfect size.

Obviously, his arm is very good. Like, I don't know. Maybe it was the Auburn thing where everyone just kind of like – First impression. Yeah, it was like, oh, this guy sucks. Or as a freshman. Yeah, exactly. First impressions are tough to get past for some people.

Even if you're on Oregon and you're on national TV a lot, then people are like, he didn't win, though. So, what are we talking about? Yeah, I saw Washington was in there. I didn't're on Oregon and you're on national TV a lot, then people are like, he didn't win though. So what are we talking about? Yeah, I saw Washington was in there. I didn't see that Oregon was in there. It's like, I don't think you understand though. Like what,

what he's doing on offense is like historic. Like, hey, he throws the ball two yards. Anybody throw the ball two yards. I can throw the ball two yards. You want to go in the backyard? I'll fucking throw it.

I'll throw it four yards. And then you start looking at like his deep shots. It's like, no, he can't. He's ball-pointing. Yeah, he can drop. You know, all the short ones work because there's a threat of a deep one coming at any moment.

It's like, good for the Broncos. Congratulations, Broncos. Congrats, Broncos. $83 million hit to the cap, though. You know, that is quite a hamstring. That'd be tough. That's quite a holdback, AJ. I mean, the fact that that whole Russell situation even happened

and then Sean Payton comes in and they actually pay that much for Russ to not be on the squad anymore. It's amazing. It's amazing how the league works. Russell's making $1 million this year from the Pittsburgh Steelers to potentially be their second quarterback. I think he's making, what, $43 million or something like that. $37. $37.

So what's the other one? So it's $50, I think it's like $54 and then $34 I think, split between two years. Whatever it is, he's getting that from the Broncos for the next two years. Steelers have no actual allegiance to making him

starting quarterback. No no neither of them perfect situation for them perfect perfect now can oh it's all upside it's all upside well

not all of it if he sucks then let's million dollars though million dollars he can get an opportunity million dollar players suck all the time amen

boo boo these guys are ready to fucking throw them out. Yeah, you're right. We're not paying them anything, so we can cut them anytime. Fields, too. Justin Fields. Okay, that was fun. Is he going to return kicks, or what is he... Oh, he's going to be turning the ball over.

Okay, good. That's awesome. That is the reaction in Pittsburgh. Here we go again. Here we go again. We're just on the entire... And Artie Smith, I'd like to get his real thoughts. What? I don't know if I want Artie's real thoughts. I want Artie

just to lock in on coaching and enjoy football. Oh, jeez. I'm talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tannehill's still available. He is. Let's not. Yeah, bring in a third. He knows that Artie Smith offense, Tom. Tannehill's still available He is Let's not Quick we'd not do that

Yeah bring in a third Tannehill is still available He knows that Artie Smith offense I'm sure Artie does too It doesn't mean he should Play quarterback Bring him back

Maybe Artie should Play quarterback Maybe With the way that must have He's just as good as Tannehill What? Tannehill might be The Pittsburgh Steelers

Quarterback this year You need to We're not saying that We've heard anything About that But it has certainly Made some rumblings on the Internet. I don't know who started it. To whoever did, easy.

I don't know how nobody else. This is just like Wreck-It Ralph. How'd nobody else think of this? The Tannehill quarterback Titans, Arthur Smith, gets head coach at Atlanta Falcons because how good the offense was at the Tennessee Titans with Tannehill and Derrick Henry and A.J. So he gets gigged there. So Tannehill would already see the field the same exact way. Knows exactly with Tannehill and Derrick Henry and A.J. So he gets gigged there.

So Tannehill and Artie see the field the same exact way. Knows exactly what Tannehill's upside is. Tannehill hasn't been utilized in the best fashion over the last couple years because he hasn't had Artie Smith pulling the strings. Have a little respect for Ryan Tannehill. Everyone said that was going to happen at the end of the season last year. Tannehill, Pittsburgh, it's done deal. Didn't happen.

They dropped some Malik Willis and a crazy guy from Kentucky. Will Levis. Crazy guy. He's a star quarterback. Their offense line's good. He's got a fucking strong arm. Feels like Mason Rudolph might have been right all along. He's also the third-string quarterback for the Titans now.

Bring him home. He guided you guys through the playoffs. Kenny picked the third-string quarterback for the Eagles. Bro, they wanted Mason. I heard the chance. We all did. Yeah. Yeah.

I heard it. Bring him back. Rod Rudolph, baby. That's where Pittsburgh's been. That's where Pittsburgh Steelers offense has been. Fire Canada. Two. We want Mason Rudolph. That's how sick we are right now. And their defense is so good.

So good. Mason is the third-string quarterback for the Titans, and that's who we were cheering for. He's learning the offense. But no offense to Mason, okay? But I'm just saying, like, that is where Pittsburgh Steelers fans are offensively and have been. Now they're chanting across the country to get rid of whoever's calling the plays. Then all of a sudden they're chanting for the name of a guy

that they were literally trying to kick out of the city, just like less than 12 months before that. And then now it's like, please God, give us anything. We got two known quarterbacks. This is going to be it. It's going to be great. And then as soon as they see him on the field, Pittsburgh football fans, educated fans, this ain't fucking it. This ain't it. This is not it. Spo ain't it. This ain't it. This is not it. They're spoiled by seven.

Spoiled by seven for so long. That's what happens. And we're not the Packers. We're not the Packers. Can he pick it, though? Yeah, we tried. They're just one year behind what the Patriots are. Except it's a worse situation because their defense is better.

Can't wait to have my drink, man. Yeah. The good news is for you guys, Indianapolis Colts, we got her. I heard you guys are doing well in practice against Cincy. Yeah, people are just laughing at you guys like that. That scrimmage did not go well, I heard. What are you talking about, AJ? What are you?

I mean, I don't know. Whatever was reported on, and we don't know if it's true or not, but reporters heard Bengals defenders saying things, and they put this in here. I'm like, man, this doesn't sound like it was a great practice for the Colts. Olivia Ray, who has been on the program, who covers the Cincinnati Bengals, says the defense is running her mouth after a dominant day versus Colts. Ken Taylor, right after an Anthony Richardson scramble.

That's all he'd do is run. BJ Hill said, throw the damn ball, dude. We're trying to get some work, too. After a Richardson incompletion. He only throws the spots. He doesn't throw to his receivers. Okay, so they're telling him, hey, we're trying to make it better here. This is what we're seeing.

Then there was another tweet about Joe Flacco just took off on a scramble for a big game. Both teams are roaring in laughter. Lou Ann Ruhm, defense coordinator for the Bengals, just doubled over. Can't believe it. We're trying to work here. You guys won't throw the ball. At least the Colts are having a good time laughing too, though.

We suck. That's not what's happening. This might be the worst Colts offensive practice of training camp so far, says Nate Atkins. Bengals defenders are chirping and honestly seem annoyed. That right there. To not be challenged better is a waste of time. We're not even getting better. That one hurts better That one

That one hurts That one I feel like I don't know So we're giving up a day Against fucking Joe Burrow Okay We're trying to get better right Are we not

How about what Lou Anaruma Is saying in the team He's laughing How about what he's saying In the defense I mean Alright look We're not getting as better

As we could We know Joey B And what the Bengals What our offense does every day. They stretch us. They challenge us. They're doing everything. This one, we just got – literally, it's all just going to happen.

There's nothing going this way. It's just all going to be right here. And we just got to kind of bite the bullet here for a couple days. And other teams get better. Work on your technique. Yeah, work on your technique. Make sure you bend your knees. Fundamentals. Let's just get better. Work on your technique. Make sure you bend your knees. Fundamentals.

Let's just get better. They should pack up and just go home. Give Jason B the ball. Why are they talking about this? Why is this the conversation about this Colts team? Bad and embarrassing. I think it's so bad. We signed all the guys are vets.

A lot of vets. A lot of guys have been around. Bengals defense is good bangles defense is good could just be that last year was horrendous you bought a louisiana room if you want blue ammo sure we don't know we don't know they've been buzzing i heard they've been buzzing around the issue is the only thing that's good for the colt right now is off the field and that's that anthem that the world learned about that has been around for... Yeah, several years. This is not the first time

that these bangers have been released. Set the flow. And it is awesome that the world has got... Bingo. It is awesome that the world has gotten

to learn more about it. But they need to bring him in for a live performance because it feels like they are uninspired over there in Cincinnati. Send it! This is our cult.

This is our team. We bleed blue. This is our cult. Whether win or lose, we love them. For the shoe. Beat the bangles. I don't think we're going to. Let's cook them and For the shoe. Beat the Bengals. I don't think we're going to. Let's cook them and eat their stripes.

This is our team. Fart bars. Fart bars. I haven't heard this one. That's good. I've heard that before. I did not know we were eating tigers. That's from Ice8859.

Seth Dufflow. Erskine's. Obviously. Yeah, there's a new twist at the end of every song this year. Yeah, I did not. Ice8859 Seth Dufflow Erskine's Obviously Colt's super fan Yeah there's a new twist At the end of every song This year Yeah I did not

I had not heard The Bengals version yet We're fucking eating them From what I heard They're eating us Ice I'm a little bit worried Eat the stripes But he's got

Look at how much passion This dude's got About the Indianapolis What was that thing at the end What was that noise It was a horse You fuck What is this

It was a colt Oh that was a colt Oh I missed What is this? It is a colt. Oh, it was, dude. Oh, that was a colt? Oh, I missed. Okay. You've never heard of... Obviously, this guy's never fucking been around a horse before. Jesus.

I didn't grow up on a farm. You're right. I have ridden a couple horses. I'm not good, but I guess I did not... That's good to know that he was... That was a horse. Yeah, you fucking idiot. Oh, so you're not good at riding horses, and the horse never turned around and told you?

A little fucking quick little, hey, hey, at you? Never gave you one of those? I thoroughly enjoyed that video. That's Seth the Flow, baby. That's the Flow, baby. That's the Flow. True. The Colts need that live.

Live? They need a play. You think that would go over well? You think that would go over well in the team meeting? I haven't seen the national anthem. We need something. All news is two training camps in a row where it's like, all right, we got our best player who doesn't want to play for the team.

We need a spark. We need a big spark. We do need a spark, yeah. Now we're playing the Bengals. They're embarrassed by having to practice with us. That's crazy. Okay. At least you guys got Houston week one.

Okay. They should fly him in on a zip line like Shawn Michaels at Mania week one. I would want the one-handed. With, like, the Madonna mic on and he can do that. And then National Anthem. Yeah, exactly. National Anthem first though probably, so it starts the show. Because National Anthem starts the show and then the show begins with...

And then they'll think like, okay, sweet, he did the anthem, that's it. And then boom, he comes flying in on a zip line. With the ball, with the ball, with the ball. Yes, exactly. Hits the anvil. Yeah, on his way down. This is our team. They need it, sounds sounds like they need something

lost that banner yeah man they should use his his horse voice as like their third down thing whenever it's third down you know like a lot of places play hell's bells they play that horse anymore did say they need a new dj oh international ball going to Ireland. That bodes well. You're damn right. Trip's going to be amazing. We're back here tomorrow and then we'll take off to Publin. Cannot wait to get over there. We can't thank everybody enough for allowing us to do this for a living.

The fact that we're even able to go to Ireland and do a show because somebody who owns a pub in Ireland, an Irish boy, said, hey, I would love to host your show at our pub. That's really cool to even think about, just as somebody that grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The fact that we're even able to go do our shit internationally, especially the last time I was in Ireland and many other places.

You know, it's like this is a very cool experience for all of us. We're going to take it in. We're going to enjoy it. And we are going to kick off this college football season in a fashion I think everybody should. Very joyful. We're going to enjoy it because what we have going on right now is the start of a season that is going to end with a national champion and going to end with a Lombardi being hoisted. Will it be historic? Either one of them. I assume so. Will there be incredible tales told from now until then? Absolutely. Who will be the superstars that rise? Who will be the superstars that fall? What programs

get brought into the light and who is the laughing stock at the end? Not at training camp and joint practice with the Bengals. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on beat. Team on three. One, two, three. Team, goodbye!