The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1210 - Monday Night Football Recap, Karl Ravech, Shams Charania, Aaron Rodgers, Everything DB

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys recap last night's doubleheader of Monday Night Football action with the Lions offense cruising behind a perfect Jared Goff performance & the Titans beating the Dolphins after Mason Rudolph subbed in at Quarterback for an injured Will Levis. ESPN's MLB Play-by-Play Announcer Karl Ravech joined the progrum in the first hour to honor the legendary Pete Rose & preview the MLB Playoffs starting today. Also in the first hour, NBA Insider Shams Charania also stopped by to discuss the blockbuster trade sending Karl Anthony-Towns from the Timberwolves to the New York Knicks for Julius Randle & Donte DiVincenzo, the media day debut of the Bron & Bronny duo for the Lakers, and more. In the second hour, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, & starting quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the NFL's tightening officiating on celebrations, the Jets' Sunday loss to the Broncos & the subsequent conversation around his cadences, his relationship with HC Robert Saleh, a look ahead to traveling to London to take on the Minnesota Vikings, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We'll see you tomorrow. Cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, October 1st, 2024, Rabbit Rabbit, this program starts now. Football! It's awesome. Two games last night on Monday Night Football, and don't look now, the Dolphins might suck. Jeez. Until Tua comes back. Is Tua coming back? Seems like all signs are pointing at yes. And the Dolphins need him back because Mike McDaniel's offense and Mike McDaniel's team without Tua has been horrendous. That continues last night.

As Snoop Huntley, formerly Pro Bowl quarterback, does not look fantastic. And on the other side, Will Levis has a shoulder injury. Mason Rudolph comes in and does his thing. Now, ex-quarterbacks that are on TV in a facility, Chase Daniels says, does his thing. Now, ex-quarterbacks that are on TV in a facility, Chase Daniels says, I've seen more out of Mason Rudolph in one game than I've seen out of Will

Levis in his entire season. Will Levis is obviously a guy that has thrown some ridiculous picks, had some absurd turnovers. This one, he hurts his shoulder diving, laying out for a first down because no play is dead for Will Levis.

That is a trait that some quarterbacks have had in the history of the NFL. Will Levis seemingly has that exact trait. Here it is. I'm going to get it. Good play for the team. Great play for the team. But at what cost? Well, his shoulder.

I think he separated it. Then there was a shot on the sideline. I think he was trying to either pop his shoulder back into place or get a little bit of a stretch in that thing. His facial expression that he made on the sideline obviously went very viral because he looked absolutely absurd. And on the flip side, Mason Rudolph said, you got it, pal. You asked for it. You got it.

Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer will lead you to a phenomenal dub on Monday Night Football with Fowler, Riddick, Dan Orlovsky, and Laura Rutledge on the call. That game stunk. Terrible. It was a tough game to watch. That was a terrible game to watch. Brutal quarter. Which means, thank God, there was another one on.

8-15 Eastern in Detroit. Seattle Seahawks with Geno Smith, who is a dog. He is absolutely spinning it right now. McDonald, the new head coach over there. Defensive guy from the Baltimore Ravens, has a great team, but the Detroit Lions in their Motor City muscle tarps with the blue helmets on primetime, led by a quarterback who had a perfect 18-for-18 night while also catching a touchdown en route to a big-time dub over the Seattle Seahawks.

Feels like the MCDC-led brand-new Lions are all the way back to who we thought. There we go. Yes, sir, Pat. Yes, sir. This offense was outstanding last night, and they have everything. If you need a little ground and pond, you got Monte and you got Gibbs in the backfield. If you need a little slice and dice through the air, you give it to St. Brown. If you need a little dump off, you give it to Laporta.

And if you need an explosive, we got the fastest guy on the field, Jamison Williams. This offense was unbelievable. Goff, unbelievable. Ben Johnson, unbelievable. Super Bowl is on the way. We feel real good in Detroit right now. Congrats on a great Monday night.

Thank you. Happy for you. Happy for the Detroit folks. Also happy for Jared Goff, who puts up a perfect game in primetime on Monday Night Football. 18 for 18, historic record. Also catches a touchdown, looks very clean doing it. Late hands.

Late hands on the throw from Amon Ross, St. Brown. Even high steps it a little bit. And this is a 21-14 game, very important. Ben Johnson pulling out all the tricks. Late hands. You can't get this. Sorry. And then, I don't know.

Don't love that move. The only mistake, I think, that was made out of Jared Goff last night was him hucking the ball into the crowd. Not saying Detroit Lions fans don't deserve it, but Amon Ross St. Brown just threw a touchdown pass. Maybe we keep that thing on the mantle for a little bit. Jared Goff, too excited, too jacked up, too athletic, said, Listen, Amon Ross just inspired me to throw this son of a bitch to the top deck.

That place was packed out. That place was loud. Calvin Johnson goes into the pride of Lions at halftime. Seemingly a perfect night in the city of Detroit. Afterwards, I think J-Mo came out and said, this city's on fire. Detroit Tigers right now playing great. Lions are all the way back. We got the music.

I'm sorry. The Motor City muscle. Tarps out. We got the music. I'm sorry. The Motor City muscle. Tarps out. People are loving it. It's a great time to be a Detroit Lions fan. Yeah, and all that history last night with Jared Goff and somehow, some way, he just doesn't end up getting the game ball. Let's go to

MCDC's press conference afterwards whenever he learns of the historic evening that Jared Goff had in real time, and is as transparent as MCDC has always been. I just gave the game ball to somebody else, so I feel awful right now. Yeah, no, I knew he played a heck of a game. I did not realize he was perfect.

I did not know he was literally 18 for 18. I mean that, but I knew he played really well. You could feel it. And he really found his rhythm early. And I thought he was seeing the field, played with rhythm. He had to move a little bit in the pocket. I thought what really kick-started him is, you know, he had to kind of move in the pocket, got spun around and hung with Jamo and hit him on the hook for the first down. That was big, man, because he was rolling after that. But just a number of huge throws, played with poise, got us in the right play. You know, it was a heck of a play down in the red zone on the catch.

Good throw by Saint, you know, been working that. Saint getting there. I just thought it was excellent. And credit to Ben Johnson, too. I thought he called a heck of a game. It was a good game plan. And really, everybody on that offense stepped up and

found a rhythm today. So MCDC had no idea he was perfect. Now, you would wonder to yourself, how's that even happen? Come on, coach. Well, not only Coach. There's normally people that as you're leaving, like the PR, the SID person, kind of catches you on the sideline and says like, hey, here's stats for the night. Here's the history that was made potentially.

Here's this. I guess in Detroit that does not happen until after the MCDC addresses the team. That was the information we were given. That makes sense, especially if MCDC is in there excited to talk to the boys. I don't need to deal with stats right now, man. Okay, I'm trying to talk to my guys. Whatever the case, happy it got righted. I assume Jared Goff did not give a shit about not getting a game ball in the locker room.

And I bet Jared Goff went to bed last night thinking to himself, thank God I got traded to Detroit. What a perfect match for A-City. We went up there for the draft, and it was awesome. It was packed out. It was crazy. I think Detroit hosted a phenomenal draft up there. I think their fans showed up. I think a lot of people traveled.

There's only one chant taking place in through that entire city, and it's Jared Goff. Jared Goff. Jared Goff. You go to other cities, there's chants for teams, and everybody kind of echoes it. Even Michigan State in the area, go green! Go what?

That is literally Detroit's chant right now with Jared Goff's name. They're saying it at Tigers games. They're saying it at Red Wings games. They were saying it in the streets whenever we were there for the draft. So for Jared Goff to show up in a way that he did in a massive NFC matchup with the Seattle Seahawks, I'm nothing but pumped for him and the city. Good for you guys. The talk table is here at Boston Corner.

And Bruce Brown, still in for tight, is out on assignment. Should be a fantastic thing. Con man. Double headers on Monday Night Football. We like it because if there's a crop game, you can go to the other game. Bingo. But it's hard to pay attention to both of them, which I was trying to do last night. Yeah, very hard.

But that's why it's so awesome having such a crap game. It's not even like a chance. Okay, hey, Finns and Titans might pick up. That was never happening. Ever. it's so awesome having such a crap game is that it's not even like a chance okay hey fins and titans might pick up that was never happening so it's perfect that those were the two kind of options there rudolph the red-nosed reindeer you mentioned he absolutely should be the starter but hey that's a conversation for another day and will love his football is still the most electrifying thing to watch he threw a pick last night i didn't even see him came. Came to the sideline. I couldn't. I didn't even see that guy. Yeah, and shout out to the Monday Night Football

people zooming in on his face. I didn't see him at all. And then obviously your tweet, audible laugh by me whenever I saw it. Nice. And I think I was the only one. I think a lot. We know, dude. Like, that is literally everybody's response to Will Levis. I think we're all fans of Will Levis' moxie. Absolutely.

But I think we've seen this song and dance before with players in the NFL. This particular style of quarterback, great in college. Yes. Great in high school. Electrifying. I assume great. In the NFL, though, they will take advantage of you. They'll get you. You will get got, and he

has been getting got. Now, will he be able to adapt, overcome, evolve, mature as a player? We shall see. But right now, whenever he's on, it's must-see TV. And that's not because it's pro Titans. That's because anything could happen here. We've seen a couple.

Carson Wentz was like this. Jameis Winston, when he was blind, was like this. There's been a couple players in the past at that position. Andrew Luck, but he was much more good. Yeah, yeah. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius James. What was that about? Throwing him in. Much more good. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. What was that about? Throwing him in.

Much more good. Much more good is obviously a great sentence. But, yes, Andrew Luck was electrifying. Every play was no give up. It was never say die. If he threw a pick, he was going to be in there trying to make a strip tackle, trying to make a big hit, try to be a linebacker. You love that mindset, like you said.

And, once again, if you're good, that's a huge, huge caveat there. there um and obviously will levis isn't to that point yet yeah that game was shit i am a fan because i feel like now it's just back to back double headers we have one game is stunk and the other game has been an absolute bang well a lot of people would say that titans dolphins game should have never been given the monday night football nod which is why then they do have the second one yeah i mean we mean, we thought preseason. Yeah, preseason we thought it would be good. Titans made a bunch of offseason moves. Obviously, we thought the Dolphins would be good.

Obviously, we think Tua would be healthy, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddell, blah, blah, blah. So, preseason. People thought Titans? We thought Titans? I thought they had a chance to be much improved. Not this wild. I mean, I could have, and thank God,

I didn't think that Levis would be like this because the expectations have surpassed them by a mile. But I don't know if anybody thought like, hey, the Titans are going to light the world on fire in primetime football. Yeah, it was still the Houston Texans, AFC South. It was still, you know, Indianapolis Colts. I think Jags even were ahead of the Titans.

Yeah, because Vrabel gets fired, obviously. They're in a potential transition era with the Callahans coming in there and doing their thing. So I think the reason why there potentially was two games is because one of the games could – now, granted, it could have been Dolphins just beating the shit out of the Titans is what they thought.

But, like, Seahawks-Lions, now that is a game worthy, you know, of being scheduled before the season. And it lived up to the billing. And it delivered. It absolutely did. Geno Smith was great. Obviously, it was a loss. But the way he's been throwing the ball, he was under pressure at times,

making unbelievable throws. Kenneth Walker being back in there. That touchdown and the head flip. That flip. That last touchdown, the angles he broke and took. He is an unbelievable player. Obviously, we know DK Metcalf, Lockett, Jackson Smith, and Jigba. Just a bunch of weapons on both sides of the field.

You knew, I said it before the game, hey, this is the same game parlay type of game. There'll be a lot of stats, a lot of catches, a lot of touchdowns. Jared Goff, Ben Johnson was unbelievable. A lot of, you know, run after catch, too. So, hey, hitting guys in rhythm, you take it, do the big thing. That run Montgomery had after the catch when Witherspoon came up, tried to smack him. Boom, took that. Just outstanding game

all around. But Jared Goff, for him to come out and play like that on prime time, I think they have a bye week now, so they have a couple weeks off. But if you're a Lions fan, you feel great right now. The Unis, the helmets look much better on TV with the Unis. The fact they won, I think it makes them look good. I'm a fan of the blue helmets.

Yeah, I like the entire fit was – Clean. The all blacks are always going to be awesome. Yes. But you're right. The blues looked much better than I thought it was from the pictures. But I think it's because they were playing so good too. Yeah.

You know, it's like one of those – like those Giants uniforms. Yeah. With how they look and they were ass. It's like get those things out of my face forever lions showing up celebrating calvin johnson playing great football and you talked about the head flip the uh it was like a flip bump that uh he had in the middle of the game after getting tackled twice yeah it was kenneth walker this is absurd i mean just agility how what yeah he's still up still Obviously, everybody has seen that already.

But at this point, got to give that – I mean, good tackle, right? No. Let's get him down again. I'll sit on his head. No. Flip. Flips off of his head and keeps it going. That's like a wrestling.

Yeah. The wrestling, it's like a lucha style. I don't know the proper term, but it's like a flip bump almost. And him doing that off of his head in a game and being that explosive, like kipping up off of his helmet. Yes. Phenomenal stuff. He's good.

Seattle Seahawks team, very good. That's why it was difficult to kind of pick the game. It was like Lions obviously have been great, but they have a game this season where they've looked there. Seattle Seahawks have been phenomenal, seemingly. Seahawks have been great, been great, been great. McDonald kind of steps in there. Tough to pick.

I think obviously being in the pride of the Lions then is going to be tough. Detroit fans showed up, made it difficult. But this Lions team, they're tough, they're innovative, they're creative, they're aggressive, and they have the guy at quarterback who seemingly matches the city perfectly. He was down and out, cast aside. Oh, yeah, get out of here. Sean McVay goes on vacation in Mexico with Matthew Stafford

and says, this guy's so much cooler than the golf course. Get this guy the hell out of here. Then, obviously, Matthew Stafford and the Rams win a Super Bowl in L.A. That's a big deal. And all golf has done is just build up trust, respect, and credibility with the city of Detroit for good reason by showing up in a massive fashion and having a perfect game on Monday Night Football.

What a time to be in Detroit. The defenses are obviously different, but when it comes to just watching the offense, they're kind of like the Niners. They can run the ball all night if they really want to, and then any time Goff steps back to pass, he's got a bunch of time, and it feels like no matter what, he's hitting the window or just some wide-open receiver.

Like, the J-Mo touchdown, that was one of the quickest – what was that? One of the quickest touchdowns of the season we've probably seen this year just in the fact of, like, the speed of it, which it, which Fox never mentioned, but there wasn't anyone near him. The play drawn up, Amon Raw looked like he was open. Wide open. Yeah, on a post 20 yards behind JMO. So the Lions as a team does feel like one of those teams that's like, okay, maybe this is the year for Detroit.

What if Detroit actually does put it together and go from the team that we watched, Jared Goff, sprint off the field when MCDC won his first game when they were like 1-13. He's like throwing his helmet off. I can still remember that scene. To now where they're wearing their all-black unis, look sick, the entire place is on fire,

and they're winning in big-time, primetime games. The Seattle Seahawks are a great team. I feel like that was one-time games. Like, the Seattle Seahawks are a great team. I feel like that was one of the things. I like the Seattle Seahawks. Coming away from it, yeah. If that game's in Seattle, yeah, I think we're having an interesting conversation. Definitely. Bill kind of talked about it.

He laid it out yesterday with Jared Goff, like, the first and second down pass. And I think he's a good third down pass as well. But the first and second down pass, and when you have a running attack like they do in the offensive line, like, as a defense, your defense your first thing is hey we got to stop the run you know we can't let Gibbs or or Montgomery they do a great job of kind of switching up it's not like hey Gibbs in here expect some something on the edge or screen like he'll run between the tackles and Montgomery he'll get on the edge so when you have that balance and then you can play action throw the ball down the field like that's incredible, to your point there from Hembo, Detroit gained 389 yards on Monday,

348 of which 89% came via the run game, 116 yards, or play action pass 232 yards. At his best, nobody marries the pass and run game better than Ben Johnson does, which goes exactly back to your point. And they'll do creative shit. They'll do trick shit too. It's not like he's a weapon. It's so hard to game plan and execute when you're a defense.

You're a linebacker of safety. You have run keys, run responsibilities, and then you've got to be obviously back in the window when you get a play at your pass. Then you always have some little wild screen or some tight end that you don't expect to get a little leak out pass or something in the red area. So, I mean, they've got it all clicking right now down in Detroit.

Is there a yak stat? Because at one point, I think it popped up on the bottom screen, it was like 268 pass yards, 210 or 12 yards after the catch. Like every single guy he hit, it felt like they were gaining 20 yards after they caught the ball. And, you know, that's credit to Ben Johnson just drawing it up perfectly. Well, and also, and Patrick, obviously, we knew he was on that team uh late signing jared goff accuracy too when you talk to jack accuracy is a big deal you know and saint put that thing right on jared goff could

have won for 30 35 yards if he had to first pass it to no and ball's gone uh there is no yak stat from hembo but hembo did say goff averaged 18.4 yards per drop back on first down. That's the best quarterback performance of the season on first down. Detroit gained 249 yards on 25 first down plays. And I think the Seattle Seahawks had the most first downs, I think, or something in a loss in the history of the NFL. 38 of them. 38.

38 of them. Gina's done 56 times. There's one half of the hammer. Cowboys, AP Tone. Seattle Seahawks, I think. It was a good game. Like Bill said yesterday, they were out there top four defensive linemen, which is when you're going

into the Lions and they have the best offensive line in football and they're going to run it down. Going in there without your top four defensive linemen and playing that well. They didn't play that well on defense, but just overall as a team, pretty good. I don't want to harp on the other game too much, but the other half of the hammer, done.

Cowboys, Gumpy, we mailing it in on this Miami Dolphins team if Tua's not playing, Paul? I don't think it matters if Tua is playing at this point. Whoa. I saw the stats. Put the stats up, Foxy. It does matter if Tua's playing. We'll be better, but it's not going to get us anywhere. We were down

the whole game to the Jags. We were down, I think, 14, maybe more when he was in against the Bills. We haven't been good all year, to be honest. And the defense has played really well. Everyone says they're not. It's because the offense can't move the ball and they can't get off the fucking field. Jeez. It's not the defense's because the offense can't move the ball and they can't get off the fucking field.

It's not the defense's fault. The defense is actually playing really well, but you can't move the ball. And you do have to throw the ball forward to move forward sometimes. Yeah, I saw that lateral happen, and it was like very early, very obvious. Snoop threw a strike to Waddle right down the pipe to start the game. Didn't try that pass again until the game was over. Yeah, a lot of the offense seemingly was just like, how do we complete passes behind the line of scrimmage? How do we keep the movement?

And how do we keep this thing safe the entire time? Which is not Dolphins football and has not been McDaniel football. Now, to that point in this entire thing, when Tua comes back, they look vastly different on the offensive side because they're running McDaniel's full offense because Tua understands it. It's taken a lot of time to learn it. We watch in hard knocks. It's not easy to learn that thing, which makes you wonder why with Snoop

don't you just do a Snoop Huntley offense you can run. You know, we're seeing LaFleur with Malik Willis. Do a Malik Willis offense. Even seeing Tennessee Titans with Mason Rudolph last night run like a Rudolph offense. It feels like McDaniel, whether it was Skyler last week or now Snoop this week, it's like we're running our shit.

It's like, well, why don't we try to – Let the mobile quarterback move as well. And this is the easy part of the schedule as well. Like after this, after this, it is terrible for the fans. It's a gauntlet once two against that. He doesn't mean the Patriots. No, it gets terrible for the fans. It's a gauntlet once Tua gets back. He doesn't mean the Patriots. No, it gets real tough next week. Yeah, we're underdogs at New England on Sunday.

What? So, I mean, fascinating. Who's going to play quarterback there? That'll be fun to watch. What type of offense are they going to run? That'll be fun to watch. Tua coming back to play football is just seemingly now everybody's all in. Yeah, that's happening.

Oh, is that what happens? Oh, weird. We're back. We didn't know that. It's very in. Yeah, that's happening. Oh, is that what happened? So we're back. We didn't know that. It's very weird. Unexpected. There's also a bye week, so we didn't really know. Do you need to go on the IR? Because there's a bye week. Well, Miami was looking out and saying, hey, you need

to take all the ample time you need to take. It felt like the day after that, there was a lot of people that hopped up on the highest horse that they could find. And they were saying, it's not good for his family. Is $100 million good for his family? It's not good for football for him to come back.

He runs the number one offense in the NFL. It's not good for Tua. Is this his love and his obsession and his passion? Is there any thought of any of that stuff? Or is it just time to say, I don't like seeing a guy look like that on a football field on prime time so he needs to retire for the good of his family my kids if they ever saw their dad do like that they i would hopefully be able to retire so that they never have to see that again it's like you're really interjecting yourself into this to a song below situation but i appreciate the fact that you went to your hot horse barn and grabbed the highest horse you could

possibly get and it wasn't just one person. It was everybody. Former players that know. Former players that know how Tua is going to feel about it. You think that's how he wants to go out? No. What about his kids, though? It's like, Jesus Christ, we're getting real heavy on this entire thing. And I agree.

I don't like seeing somebody knocked out like that. It's very serious. It's very scary and everything like that. But if a doctor was going to clear Tua, Tua was going to play. I mean, now it's all on will the doctors clear him? Have a neurologist been able to meet with him? It's a lot of questions. Do you know any more about that, Gumbs? No, nobody knows anything.

It's been great. Everyone wants to talk about it, but nobody wants to tell us what the fuck's going on. Like, the guys on IR, there's a bye week there. There's a bye week in there, too. So, like, I don't know what we're doing. This is just – this is Dolphins football at this point. You've got to think just a little part of the Dolphins might think, like, why the hell did we put him on the IR?

You've got to think that. Yeah. And why can't our coach adjust at all and just run the football and mix up the offense and get something that can matriculate just a little bit? I don't know. Because it felt like that game was over quick. It was like we all knew what was going to happen in that game seemingly pretty early. The scoreboard was close, but it was never like,

oh, Dolphins look like they can win this one. And I appreciated the fact that much like March Madness, they had the other game score up on the corner, and they would drop down when the team was in a red zone. Boy, that Miami Titans game, there's no action. There was one red zone pop-up. It was like, oh, holy shit.

You get an interception to start the game, too. Throw it to Tyreek. Just boots the ball to the other team. It's like, could have scored there, go up seven. Completely different game, but just turn the ball over, no one does a damn thing. New World we're in did have an example at the end of that game, but just turn the ball over and no one does a damn thing. The new world we're in did have an example at the end of that game.

Two minutes left. An onside kick was attempted during a safety. Now, obviously, if you do not have sound on in the game, which I think happened to Tone and many people, you had no idea what took place. This was less than five minutes in the game, so you're allowed to declare that you're going to do an onside kick. After a safety, so you're kicking off from the 20. Ball has to be kicked out of a hand. I don't think it can be grounded.

That's kind of the safety rules. They kind of peter it on the Tennessee Titans side of it. The Dolphins get it. That's Colt Anderson, former personal protector of mine. Montanimal dog. Everybody is a fan of this human that has met him. He thinks that his team just messed it up, did not see where the ball landed.

Fair catch it. Yeah, fair catch it is what he's saying. They're saying peter it. Now, here's the rule if you were not paying attention. In this new world that we're in, when you declare an onside kick, whether it be from the 35 or from the 20 after a safety, the ball has to be completed or touched within 25 yards of where the ball is being kicked. So this ball would have to have dropped inside the 45-yard line because it's being kicked from the 40. So it was two yards too long. Therefore, it is an illegal formation or some sort of personal foul. Half the distance to the goal from where the ball was kicked, the Tennessee Titans would end up with the ball on the 10-yard line going in after this play. Everybody was confused. It didn't have a sound on. Everybody was flustered about what the

hell was going on. It was a penalty against Bailey who did the punt two yards too long. If that thing lands at the 45, they peter it. It hits the ground, and the Dolphins get it. First down, Miami Dolphins. Two yards too long. Peter that thing. First down, Tennessee Titans on the 10-yard line going in.

They're really telling people, are you sure you want to do an onside kick? You can declare an onside kick, but are you sure you want to do it? It'd be the same thing from the 35. It'd be a 15-yard penalty as opposed to a 20-yard line because it's half the distance to the goal because you don't do 15 from 20 and in. So, insane ending. New hybrid kickoff. I think returns

are up. Injuries are down. Everything's working, but there's a moment like this on Monday Night Football at the very end when a lot of people are falling asleep and don't have a sound on. And the person in the the booth who's the ref person had no idea no what the hell was going on I don't think anybody did including Colt Colt was very confused he didn't know where the hell the ball dropped he said he thought it hit the 45 and he thought he was going to be on the receiving end of history the first person to ever give that entire thing up so he's like what are you doing better catch your damn ball his guys they were saying it was

outside of 45 we knew we knew We knew. His guys heard. We knew. He's on the far side. You son of a... You see him doing the entire thing. A little chaos there at the end of it, but the rule is 25 yards and in is the box in which the onside kicks can happen. If it's outside of there, it is a personal foul. Foxy, can you

go back to the very beginning just so we can see the clock on that situation, the score? 24-12 with 227 left. The over-under was 37. So this rule was just terrible for anyone that had the under in this game because they get the ball at the 10 and then score. This game was 22-6 with 4 minutes left.

I will act like I was awake for this. I was not. But if I was watching this game last night and all of a sudden they get first down at the 10 yard line after hearing what the booth described as what was happening there. Boy, and if I was watching this game last night and all of a sudden they get first down at the 10-yard line after hearing what the booth described as what was happening there, boy. And if I was a Dolphins fan, I would be so confused about it all. And Colt's like, that ball landed in the 40. Colt thinks he's a part of history.

Yeah, getting fired. Still learning. The Titans touchdown hit the over here, too, at the end of the game. This is for the over. Yeah, that's awesome. Obviously, the NFL is cooking. The new kickoff rule is its thing. Don't let Burks' hands on his hips there.

Ball could come at you. Did they know it was an onside kick? Yes, they had to declare it. Just making sure because they're just looking at it. It seemed like they did it. So the after safety onside kick, I forget who started doing it. They used to try to – somebody would either hold it or – because you can't have a tee.

So somebody would either hold it or guys would try to punt it at people or try to do the entire thing. Then somebody, I forget who it was, punted it straight up in the air, and there was like full chaos. I didn't even know you could do that. And everybody was like, that's the way to do this entire thing, after the safety. So that is kind of the modern way of doing it,

just like the little side spinning onside kick became the new thing, like a chopper kick. The high punt to get somebody, hopefully, that isn't used to handling a punt involved, and then there's miscommunication and chaos happens. Wow. Because after safety onside kicks, it's very difficult to get. It does not have to.

It was electric. Don't have to hit the ground. Ball doesn't have to hit the ground. So it doesn't have to be a drop kick, just be a straight punt, obviously, just like that. Yeah, so whenever there was a drop kick from the 35, I think Packers did it. Ball has to be grounded on that particular kickoff. So the safety cannot be grounded.

Then kickoff from the 35 has to be grounded. Got it. So that's why there was a drop kick from the Irish lad for the Packers, I believe. Whelan. Whelan, I think he's the one that did it. And then that one was just punted straight out of hand, straight up in the air.

It's wild. A lot of little rules. And once again, this is how, yeah, they're special teams coordinators. Like they're trying to take advantage of all these rules. So that's why when this new kickoff comes in, it's like these guys are going to try to cook all these rules because there's so many little minor details.

Happily got that out of the way. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is we are so incredibly lucky for this conversation. Hell yeah. rules because there's so many little minor details. Happily got that out of the way. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is we are so incredibly lucky for this conversation. Absolute legend whenever it comes to the sport of baseball. Sport of baseball right now, obviously after what happened yesterday, both for the Mets

and Braves and to legend Pete Rose. It's the right time for this. Ladies and gentlemen, ESPN MLB play-by-play. He's got the Padres versus the Braves tonight. Called the doubleheader yesterday. Called Ravage. Ravage, sorry we had to explain it.

Hell yeah. Sorry we had to explain it. I'll tell you one thing, Pat. I learned more about the onside kick rule than I ever even knew existed. And I thought baseball had some quirky rules. My God. Hey, this is brand new, some of that, Ravage. You got to know it. Onside kick rule that I never even knew existed. And I thought baseball had some quirky rules. My God. Hey, this is brand new, some of that, Ravi.

You've got to know, this is brand new. But it is a wild time for our sport. Feels like it's a wild time for your sport as well. Before we get into the playoffs and wild card series, which you'll be calling tonight, Padres, Braves, and then there's also Mets, Milwaukee Brewers, Tigers, Astros, Kansas City Royals, and Baltimore Orioles as the playoffs start for the MLB. We got to talk about the passing of baseball legend Pete Rose.

I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which isn't the biggest baseball town, but everybody knew Pete Rose. Yesterday, into this morning, there's just been highlights in stats showcased about Pete Rose. They call Charlie Hustle, I guess. I watched a clip with him, A-Rod, and Frank Thomas talking about how he's batting. And listening to A-Rod just be like so intrigued and like captivated by every word. And Frank Thomas doing the same thing, captivated.

It's like obviously the baseball world, whenever it comes to baseball, has massive respect for this man. Is there anything that we need to know about Pete Rose, how baseball views him, and the loss of Pete Rose to the baseball world that you were obviously much more in touch with than us? Well, I mean, I had a real interesting seat last night doing that game. Eduardo Perez, who grew up in the Cincinnati Reds clubhouse with Pete Rose Jr., Ken Griffey Jr., just guys that we've all known. So during the game, Eduardo's phone is ringing, and it's

his dad calling. And his dad, Tony, watches every game. So his dad's watching the game and calling him, which immediately sends some red flags, you know. as you know, this is my dad who watches Why in the World? Is he calling in the middle of a game? And it was clearly urgent. And then all of a sudden, Eduardo slips a note card over to me, and it just said, Pete Rose has died. This is just as the game has ended. And this was a guy that Eduardo was incredibly close with.

So to find out about it that way was one thing that now I'll never forget that. Like, when did you hear about Pete Rose dying? Well, it was literally during the end of the wildcard game between the Mets and the I mean, the the last game of the regular season between the Mets and the Braves. It was it was strange. He's told a million stories. I mean, the one thing you got to know about Pete, like a million stories. I mean, the one thing you've got to know about Pete, like many other people, I mean, in your field, like Ray Guy was that guy. In basketball, it was Jordan. In golf, Tiger Woods. There are certain threads that run through these individuals. One of them always seems to be they freaking hated to lose. It didn't matter

what it was. Eduardo tells this bizarre story. Every birthday that they celebrated of Eduardo's was at Rose's house. And there was one year they put a pinata up. And it was Pete who ultimately had to grab the bat and waste the pinata and have the candy coming down after all the kids tried. He's like, you watch. You watch Charlie Hustle. You watch the king.

I'll knock the candy out of that thing. There was another year there was a Monopoly game they were playing. And at one point Pete said, I see, you're all playing with fake money. Check this out. And he rolls out with a $1,000 bill. I didn't even know there was a $1,000 bill. But he had a $1,000 bill. He was the center of attention guy. The hits and all that stuff are incredible.

I looked at that 1968 season, you know, for baseball folks and some of the guys sitting there in your room. That's the year of the pitcher. That's the year that, you know, Bob Gibson's ERA was 112 and Danny McClain won 30-plus games. Drysdale had six consecutive shutouts. Carl Yastrzemski, I grew up in Massachusetts, he has won the batting title.

He hit.301. Like, that's.301, that's nothing. The collective batting average in 68 was.230. Pete Rose hit.335. He, like Woods and like Guy and like Jordan, exceeded every expectation. He was just uniquely qualified to do what he did, which was hit a baseball. When you bat 335 and everyone else is hitting 230, you're doing something special. And those were some of the things that I remember about Pete Rose.

This dang commitment to your craft is unbelievable. Well, rest in peace to Pete Rose. We'll have a moment of silence for Charlie Hustle. You did good. Moment passed. Rest in peace, Pete. Baseball will miss you, pal. Yeah, amen to that.

Sports media will miss you. Let's talk about baseball now. Big one happens yesterday. And obviously, I heard before the game from Mets fans that are friends of mine, they're all pissed off. They're all pissed off. Now, this Hurricane Helene, obviously, North Carolina, Georgia, there is a lot of things that they're going to have to get dealt with

because of the devastation for a long time. All the positive thoughts, prayers, vibes, everything to all those people. And obviously, we will be trying to assist monetarily however we can whenever those things come about. But for the baseball world, those games get moved to Monday. Doubleheader with huge implications yesterday. In the Mets yesterday in the ninth inning of the first game, hit a home run Francisco Lindor that puts them into the playoffs and is one of the most electrifying moments in Mets baseball history. Is that an accurate way to describe that or remind Mets fans' friends being a little bit overdramatic and they're texting to me?

No, you know, I don't think so. I mean, there's been a lot of frustration. Lindor is having an MVP-type season. This was clearly one of the biggest home runs, I think, in Mets history. Now, it's obviously in a regular season game, but it gets you into the playoffs. It's by a guy who is absolutely beloved and adored. The hug he received, not only there at home plate, but from his owner, Steve Cohen. Just let you know what a relief it was, how big it was. He's a special guy, Lindor. He's down to earth. He's a superstar player. He knew that he got that ball and hit

it over the wall. And yet his mannerisms were almost to suggest, dang, I missed that thing. And then after the game, he talked about, I don't want to show up the opponent. I'm not about any of that stuff. I'm there to put my back down. He's the opposite of Pete Rose. Like this guy, Rose will let you know he got a hit.or will will just run around the bases and celebrate family guy dedicated to his family that way dedicated to the Mets now that was absolutely top five top ten home runs in the history of the Mets and there's that great shot of Diaz and look at the difference Edwin Diaz gets a high five because he wasn't great in that game Lindor gets a hug like you're my son like I'm all in I'm all about you and let's go let's go now take care of the Brewers and no that was this big a home run as I've seen

you know in Mets history there have been a bunch of them you know from Piazza and 9-11 etc that was a huge home run for a team that needed it. And it was a bizarre day. I mean, the idea that if both teams win a game, they both go to the playoffs. Postgame, Pat, they were sitting there on the field collectively, kind of hugging each other, celebrating, almost toasting each other with champagne. We did it.

And game two sucked. It was really slow. Pitching was terrible. You could tell that neither team really wanted to be there. The Braves had just gotten news that Sale, his back was out. The feeling after game one, which was euphoric, was such a letdown. But now you begin a second season. You turn the page, and hopefully Atlanta comes here to San Diego ready to go.

All right, let's talk about that. Tone has a question for you. Ravi? Yeah, I know MLB teams travel a ton, but you did that yesterday. Is the travel from Atlanta to San Diego, is that an issue today? And then the loss of sale, the Braves have lost so many big arms. Yeah, they've lost so many big arms this year. The AAA guy was started for them in a must-win game.

They had to go to a AAA pitcher yesterday. How did the Braves get by with their pitching situation? He looked sweet. He did. Is this the mullet guy? Yeah, it looked just like Connor. Legend. Dog.

Love that guy. Didn't win, but what a beast. What an absolute beast. Absolute baseball guy. They had used him earlier. Then he comes out and throws like four innings no hit ball i mean every team should have a guy like that on it and he was you know he was he was perfect um travel to san diego look not a problem i mean let me just let me go pete rose and just talk about myself for a second it's already been a great trip only only because I left my iPad charger, not that this has ever happened to anybody,

but I left my iPad charger in the press box. So I had to wake up this morning in San Diego, find a CVS, and lo and behold, I locked right into a sweet iPad charger with one of those fast charge things. So good day here. The Braves don't have to worry about that. You've got to go to the lobby. Hey, you've got to go to the lobby of that hotel, brother. He's got to

say you left it there the last time you were there. It's classic move. They've got a box of them underneath that. Is that right? Yeah, in the lobby desk. You go down. Listen, it's a little from the road. You know, you've been on the road a long time. I've happened to as well. I never thought of that. Front desk. You were here last week. You forgot your thing.

They'll have a box of chargers. They'll have a box of chargers. They'll have a box of chargers. Well, the good news is, yes, CVS told me to keep the receipt, and I'm good. I'm bringing it back. Be careful with those CVS chargers. What's all about that? Okay, let's get to the end.

Let me answer Tony's question. Yes, sir. Flying here is not a problem. The bigger problem is Chris Sale's injury. They may start a guy, Ian Anderson, who hasn't pitched the big leagues in a couple of years. answer Tony's question. Flying here is not a problem. The bigger problem is Chris Sale's injury. They may start a guy, Ian Anderson, who hasn't pitched the big leagues in a couple of years. They've got a couple of minor leaguers. Best of three, what I think they hope for is that somehow they can win game two and three. It's going to be brutally difficult tonight with whoever they start against a Padre team and a Padre City. I don't know how

much you paid attention to what crowds look like. Philadelphia gets a lot of love for what they do inside the bank, and it's awesome. This place here is as big a home field advantage as any, and they mash the Padres do at home. This team is ready to win a World Series. They have starting pitching galore. They have an all-star laden lineup. They have a bullpen that's tremendous. They have an owner who passed recently, Peter Seidler, who wanted nothing more than to win a World Series and put so much money into it. In a time where we criticize ownership for not spending money, this dude spent money and continues to do it now as his legacy even after.

And A.J. Preller, who put this team together, has put together a team that is on the same par with the Dodgers and Phillies in the National League. They can win this thing. And tonight's going to be electric. And just a quick story, the guy that's starting the game tonight, Michael King for the Padres. Michael King's dad and I used to work together on a desk in Binghamton, New York. His dad was a news anchor while I was the sports anchor. And we are really close. So for me, it's incredible to see this kid that I celebrated his birthday when he was born now pitching game one.

What an honor in a wild card series. Unbelievable. Let's make sure we're non-biased out there, Rob. I'll be a home run. I'll be non-biased. I'll be non-biased. I'll be non-biased. He expects that from me. He's a smart kid. He knows that. I got no

skin in this game, but personally, when people say, who do you root for? I root for people. I root for Aaron Boone to win a World Series. He sat next to me for years. I rooted for Francona, Dusty Baker, and Cora. Anybody that I know and like, I root for them. Yeah, me too.

And we were joking about the non-biased thing. If you saw this kid working on one of these pitches when he was three years old at his birthday, that's a good piece of information. Yeah, I need that. That's a good piece of information, Robbie. Let's talk about number one seed now and also a place that spent a bunch of money.

There's some news coming out of there. D-Butt got a question for you, Robbie. Oh, yeah. As a casual baseball fan, I do lock in during the playoffs when we finally get to see baseball's biggest star, Shohei Ohtani, out there with the Dodgers. And I know he's had an incredible season, 50-50, first one in that club. But I saw a story a couple weeks ago that hasn't ruled out pitching

in the postseason. Is that true? Will we see Shohei on the mound in the postseason? You know, it's a great question. And how can you be a casual fan when you've read about this before and now you're at it? We're in the sports world. We're in the sports world.

We're in there. That's right. Nothing getting by the McAfee crew or Pat. I know that. That's right. Paul Skeen's 170 strikeouts. This guy. You hear about the Ports?

There you go. Yeah, nothing. Look, the thing about Shohei, and I should have probably mentioned him earlier in that Rose conversation, just about guys who exceed levels that most of the average, even above average guys and women do. He's that guy. You know, when he got hurt, he decided, I'm going to dedicate myself to hitting and running. And he breaks, you know, a historical mark with a 50 50 season and

all along he's slowly kind of ramping up his pitching and you're watching him throw in bullpens and you're like that dude is letting it rip like this isn't 50 this is this is close to 100 and dave roberts is one of those guys who's really smart he's been around the game his manager and you know his answer to that question was like the answer the answer about Shohei pitching is it's not it's not zero but it's it is close to zero personally it wouldn't surprise me at all if they make a deeper run that Otani sort of goes to him and says I'm ready like the doctors the same way you talked about two up the doctors have said I'm okay to pitch. Even if it's an inning, I'm going for it.

It wouldn't shock me at all if Otani pitches. What's that thing called? The World Classic? The World Baseball Classic. The World Baseball Classic. Yeah, the World Baseball Classic when he struck out Trout. Unbelievable. Where he has the ball in his hands. Like, could you imagine Game 7, the World Series,

Shohei Otani just hit two dingers, obviously, the other way? Needed. I mean, everybody on Earth, literally everybody on earth would be watching that. Definitely. Would be great for baseball. There's a chance, what, he could get injured? He's not in a flow? Why would they not have him pitch?

Yeah, I mean, of course, that's the risk. And he hasn't pitched. I mean, one thing about baseball players, they're creatures of, I need to make sure I'm there. It was shocking when Sale said, my back spasms are kicking up, and they leave him on the roster, and maybe he can pitch in the division series. In the case of Otani, you can't just go from zero to 100. He's not one of those electric cars that just accelerate. In baseball, you've got to ramp up. And they will tell you,

and I agree with it, game situations do not mirror what's going on in the bullpen. But again, he's different. He's unique. He is the guy that you think if anybody can do it, he can do it. And I'm certainly of the camp that if they get deep, he can do it. Let's continue to talk about some of the top seeds in the playoffs. Connor has a question for you.

Yeah, Carl, it feels like the one in two seeds that get buys can sometimes kind of stumble and honestly screw it up for him. What are the benefits of, you know, obviously having time off, but more so how bad is it if a team is incredibly hot going into the postseason, then they have to sit for like a week and kind of lose all their mojo? going into the postseason, then they have to sit for like a week and kind of lose all their mojo. Yeah, look, it's been a conversation since baseball switched their formats and these teams that win 100 games, why in the world are they being bounced out of the postseason? It's a rust versus rest. I think that most of the teams that win and get the buys, and in this case, you know, New York and and Cleveland Philadelphia and Los Angeles

will take that versus having to do for instance you know what the Braves are doing the fact that we just ended the season Sunday and here we are with the wildcard teams starting all over again it's one thing to be hot and keep it going it's another to be at this point of the season banged up and getting some time off ideally that, that's abbreviated, so it's not, you know, five, six, seven days. It's let's get right back to it. But I think what happens is you look at baseball, and it's different than your other sports. You know, the NBA, Jordan's Bulls were going to win most of the time.

Bird Celtics were going to get deep. In the NFL, Pat Mahomes, he takes his team. He's going to win. He's going to win. In baseball, it ain't that way. Baseball is different. And that's why even tonight going into this game, you assume the Padres are going to win. It hardly means they will because baseball is quirky that way. The best player doesn't always win. In fact, rarely is it the best player that wins. There's a good chance judges Yankees don't win. Otani's Dodgers don't win.

Harper's Phillies don't win. I mean, there's chances that are much better than in other sports where that stuff happens. I don't think this year is one of those where, because they haven't played in a while, the Dodgers, Phillies, Yankees, and Guardians all lose. I've heard Passan and others and Tim Kirkson, my good friend, say this year is as wide open as any.

I do believe that. I've heard that sound a hundred times, a thousand times. Well, that's good, and that's why we have you on. We can't thank you enough for taking time on this glorious day. Busy day yesterday. Busy time tonight. Hopefully you'll stop back again soon as this baseball playoffs continue to roll on. Good luck to everybody over there on the production.

And good luck to baseball, brother. You call me anytime you want. I love your guys there for all your baseball questions. Thanks, Pat, for having me. And I got a charger. I can't wait to go to the front desk right now. They should. Normally, and if the first person you talk to is like, I don't think so wait to go to the front desk right now. They should. Normally, and if the first person you talk to is like, I don't think so,

just go to the next person. They'll be like, yeah, we got a box. They'll come and bring it. Oh, there it is. Oh, that's my Android? No. A lot of Androids in there. You can lead to what you think of Android people, that their chargers are going to be in abundance in the box that has been left behind in the hotel, but you'll be able to

find some good ones in there. Good luck you're the man ladies and gentlemen baseball not bad this is the fun time for me like i hate baseball but i'll watch i'll watch uh you know they go to iowa they do that field of dreams yeah i'll watch that because it's a little bit different this slam diego team are they still that? Is this what they are? They're the same guys, yeah. I'll watch them. Phillies, whenever it's night. Yeah, and they're going nuts.

And the bank is insane. So sick. And Bryce Harper's doing his hair flip, and then he's showing up and just hitting bombs. Seriously, though, tonight when that Padres game starts, their crowd is unbelievable. That's what he just said. Like, hey, everybody gives the banks.

I think it's like Gumpy's favorite crowd. Slam Diego, it's bananas, dude. The outfield's like a park, so it's like open. So it's basically standing room only in like a city park is the outfield. It's awesome. Oh, that is awesome. There's a great meme of a kid in the Padres fan base, and he's clapping and then he flips off a Dodgers fan.

I don't know if you've ever seen that, but actually one of the best little, like, hey, God just hit a home run for San Diego, let's go to the crowd. One of the best captures I think I've ever seen in all of sport. That's awesome. Well, happy for baseball doing everything. It matters now. Yes, it does. It matters now.

162 for this. Speaking of things that are happening, ladies and gentlemen, a lot of NBA teams reported to training camp today. Yesterday was media day to break it all down for this. Speaking of things that are happening, ladies and gentlemen, a lot of NBA teams reported to training camp today. Yesterday was media day to break it all down for us. I believe a man who's free, I don't know, is Sean Sharaya. Still with the athletic in...

Feel the beast. Bring it back. Bring it back. Okay, we were going to, I forgot about it, that's 100% on me, before Ravi. We couldn't do it just for you. But nonetheless, basketball is happening again. We are reporting to training camp. We're seeing media day stuff happen.

Hey, we're in it now, right? We're in basketball season now? We're absolutely in basketball season. Media day was yesterday. Some teams had it. A couple teams had it yesterday. Celtics, Nuggets, they were going Abu Dhabi. They had it last week.

But, yeah, basketball, the NBA season is three weeks away. Teams have had decisions to make. I've eventually got a decision to make here. But, listen, for me, this is primetime basketball season. A lot happened. Pat, Friday night. Chomps season. It's Chomps season.

It's Chomps season. Hashtag up to something season. Training camp. Okay. Carl Anthony Towns for Julius Randle, Dante DiVincenzo, and a draft pick. We don't see trades like this come up often, especially on the eve of training camp involving two all-NBA, all-star caliber players. And obviously, I don't know if BC is sweating Carl Anthony Towns.

Come on. He is. Come on. He is. On paper, they have to have, I i mean in in my eyes they have one of the best starting fives in nba i still give boston and the celtics the edge as far as starting fives we know what they've done we know what they're capable of jason tatum jalen brown those are two of the best 10 players in the league uh you look at obviously drew holiday uh everyone

else in that starting lineup. Derek White. Derek White. But to me, the Knicks, this made them really up there. We'll see how their bench plays down the stretch and how that looks coming out of training camp. But this was a massive trade. This is something that the Knicks were quietly working on for months since the start of the offseason, since draft night. They offered Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson. That was a hard no.

They continued to offer that. No, no, no. Then they finally put Dante DiVincenzo in. That was still a no, but at least that was a window open for them. And then they put in that first round pick on Friday, and they get this massive deal done. We haven't seen a deal quite this big happen on the eve of the season in a

while. From the people that were talking that we were paying attention to, felt like Julius Randle was probably not going to be a eve of the season in a while. From the people that were talking, that we were paying attention to, felt like Julius Randle was probably not going to be a part of the Knicks this year. Dee Vincenzo, obviously, big deal there, right? That's a big deal. And if you're saying they've been working on it a while for Cat, doesn't he have history with Tibbs, right? Is Tibbs a big part of working on that, trying to get him over there?

Yeah, because he played for him in Minnesota. There was friction on the way out. When Tom Thibodeau got fired in Minnesota, there was friction between those two. Yeah, like real heat. Real heat. So if you're saying they've been working on it for a long time, Tibbs had to be like, yeah, it's okay? 1,000%.

I think that beef is long gone. I think a lot of that was Conte Towns was in the middle of a Jimmy Butler, Tom Thibodeau. It wasn't a cold war, but there was tension there. Tom Thibodeau, Jimmy Butler was his guy but there was tension there tom thibodeau jimmy butler was his guy in minnesota that's the guy that he traded for that's the guy that helped lead that team to the playoffs in minnesota in quite some time they couldn't get it done the jimmy butler asked for a trade then it was really jimmy butler against the rest of the world and that included

carl anthony townsend so a lot of that was him getting caught in the middle of it they've since gotten their relationship at a much better place and trust me when i say this tom thibodeau and that coaching staff they wanted this trade they wanted carl anthony towns in the fold and julius randall that was a decision that nicks organization had to make are you going to extend him do you want him part of your long-term future or you don't and they were not committing to julius randall long term as of yet they wanted to see how it played out during the season. So anytime you have a player going the last year of his deal with a player option, he is very viable to get traded.

I think that would have been a year-long theme with Julius Randle. Where is he getting traded? Similarly for Cat, he's got so much money on his deal, four years, over $200 million. For Minnesota, they're so top-heavy. You think about the second-avery, you think about the finances. They were going to eventually trade him as well. The Knicks wanted him. That's been years in the making.

They got it done. They paid a price, but obviously, in Minnesota's eyes, this is a risk, too. You saw what Anthony Edwards said the other day. That was his guy. He wanted to play with Conor Anthony Towns moving forward. How does this impact them? I think this does give Minnesota more flexibility

in the years to come. Very interesting. Obviously love Ant. So whatever he's saying, I think you should listen to over there in Minnesota, the New York tough market, right?

Oh, yeah. Carl. Yep. Yeah. A lot of people are going to have questions about the towns and how he handles that New York

market. Cause there's no question they're going to get on you. They were on Julius Randall heavy and we saw Julius Randall. He would go back and forth with the fans, different points, but now at the end of it, everyone saw how tough Julius Randle heavy. We saw Julius Randle. He would go back and forth with the fans at different points.

Now at the end of it, everyone saw how tough Julius Randle was. He played through injuries. He got them as far as they're going to get. At least over the last decade plus. Are they going to be able to get over the Pacers? We'll see. We'll see. They have the talent where

you're looking into the season. Conference finals, obviously, is the goal for this Knicks team, or the NBA finals. Alright, good luck to all of them. We are coming up on a hard out here in like five minutes. That's on us, not on you. We apologize for that. What are some other high-level shit we should be thinking about as this NBA season starts?

Obviously, we are football stooges. What should we be thinking about as training camp launches everywhere? Yeah, let's just stooges. What should we be thinking about as training camp launches everywhere? Yeah, let's just go one by one. The Lakers, LeBron James and Bronny James, obviously. We saw that finally, that duo yesterday. I would expect them to make their debut together the opening week of the NBA season, possibly opening night from what I'm told. And Bronny James will spend a lot of time on the active roster.

Yes, once the G League season starts, he's going to be shuttling back and forth with the G League. You're only going to be in the G League. That's something for Bronny James. We're going to see him shuttle back and forth. You look elsewhere in the Western Conference. Dallas, obviously, we saw Kyrie Irving,

Jason Kidd, the way they spoke about Klay Thompson being the missing piece. Klay Thompson is very happy. He's going to start. He's going to play heavy minutes. I think the respect level that he felt was missing in Golden State, he's going to get that. Another team to keep an eye on, and Pat, this is going to be a theme

going into the season, the Denver Nuggets. This is a costly franchise. They just gave Jamal Murray a massive $209 million extension. He is part of the long-term future. Nicole. He is part of the long-term future. We know Nicola Jokic is part of the long-term future. But they're at somewhat of a crossroads. They've got so much money invested in this team.

One guy that needs an extension as well right now, Aaron Gordon. He's eligible for a four-year, $150-plus million extension. They need to pay him. They know it. But there are some salary restrictions moving forward in the years to come and if they can't get there with an extension with him you look into free agency next year with a player option he's going to be coveted by any team with cap space so that is a worry for denver right now before the start of the regular season and then i think we got to give shout outs

to two people to kemi motombo rest in peace of the game. Legend of the game. He will be missed. 58 years old. Died of brain cancer. So cancer is a beep. We don't want that a part of anyone's life. Definitely get your people, all your people, your loved ones, make sure they're checked and take care of

them and cherish them. Another thing, Derrick Rose, he retired from the NBA. That's a big deal. Hey, D. Rose. I got to watch him at college, obviously. That's where I saw the entirety of him. The Chicago legend. Absolute icon.

I'm told the Bulls will be honoring him on January 4th at the United Center against the Knicks. It's basically going to be Derrick Rose weekend in Chicago. There's still TBD on his jersey retirement. But that jersey, number one, is unofficially retired there. I would expect more serious conversations on potentially retiring his jersey in Chicago over the next several months and

the potential year to come. But Derrick Rose, January 4th, will be a big weekend for him. Anytime you're getting a weekend of celebration, you've done good. Congrats, D-Rose. Celtics stink or no? Come on now. Come on now. Tell them, Shams.

They've got the best starting five in the NBA. And they're the favorites. I said it on the show last time. They're the favorites going into this season. Now the Knicks are getting better. Philadelphia is getting better. Out West, there's going to be these Pacers. There's going to be teams out West that are going to be

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God bless. Choked up. I'm choked up. So pumped. We talked about baseball. We talked about basketball. We talked about football. It's just such a good time for sports.

It's a good day. So many right now. I mean, I didn't have a dry throat there as I was talking. I had to cough and maybe clear some things up there. I'm actually legitimately choked up thinking about how awesome our lives are. It's going around. I can't believe... What's going on? No, no, no. We're not doing that again. Not this

week. Stop floating around. You better wear a mask. Okay. Alright. That's one half of the hammer. Cowboys, AP Town. You're definitely not doing that. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner. Bruce Brown sitting in for Ty Schmidt,

who's out on assignment. Should be amazing. Good to see you, Bruce. Good to see you. Bruce, I'll tell you what, yesterday, fucking nailed it. I don't know about that. Hell yeah. I want to let you know, point guard did get gun shy to send ball back to... I'd say, yes.

Last two days, pretty good. Can't believe I'm sitting here, honestly. It's great to have you, honestly. You bring a lot of juice normally when you're on. Yesterday, though, out of the gates, just fall flat immediately on there. And then quarterback, you know, had his ball and just thinking, I don't know. He dropped the last pass. I don't know.

Yeah, I get it. I don't like it. I want to let you know that ends right now. Bruce, welcome back, baby. Oh, yeah, Bruce. Let's go, bruce how's your raiders team doing i just heard davante adams on up and adams he said he has not heard from the organization at all since antonio appears like the post that was basically saying yeah he's played his last snap for the raiders we're done with it so how do you feel as a new raiders fan i was thinking that ap was just kind of bookmarking that post so he could

use it you know pregame, little bulletin board material. They thought you were done as a Raider. Yeah, you never know, I guess. Guess what? You're going to go show them now. You never know what motivational tactics are. That could be what Antonio Pierce is talking about, but that is a situation that is, Raiders get a win. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they did. Raiders get a win

and now drama's even more. And I guess we're kind of a part of it because we asked Schefter about wide receivers that could be traded because of Rasheed Rice injury. Which, Rasheed Rice injury, if you're listening to Schefter or the other insiders, seems like they're thinking much better news than thought. Yeah, maybe not. Whenever they say they are waiting another week to get more tests to see the full extent of the injuries, I immediately read that. And whenever he says there remains uncertainty over the extent of his injury per sources so they got another week and he's out this week obviously i thought oh there's more injuries like the extent of the injury not only was an acl there was a hyper

extension there so something happened to the patella maybe the pcl i thought there was going to be a lot because how nasty that thing looked and then chef he clarifies it on the adam shepherd podcast i believe in this particular he says no, I think this is good news. They're trying to, you know, potentially see if what they thought happened actually happens. There's more tests to be done. Rasheed Rice might be back. But because of what happened to Rasheed Rice,

a lot of wide receivers getting traded conversation took place. Devontae Adams' name was in there. This is fresh off of a win for the Raiders. Okay, his name's in there and everybody else. And now it's getting dialed up even more. It's a fascinating time for Devontae Adams and remember Mike Greenberg said he would do a show shirtless

or something. I think is what he said. If Devontae Adams wasn't a New York Jet by Halloween I think is what he said. TikTok. That's when trade deadline basically comes to an end. November 5th. So October 31st, very close.

November 5th, also election day. Just do your research and then vote. Should be good. Or not. What do you mean? Well, maybe do your research and not vote. Well, I don't think you're allowed to say that. Exercise your right.

Don't do research. Guess we know you're taking the cow. Moe that bitch. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that either. Jeez, there's no Don't do research. Guess we know you're taking the cow. Moe that bitch. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that either. Jeez, there's no reason to do that. Yeah, I mean, it could be fun.

Bruce might throw paint on you this week. It's a civic duty to vote. Okay, get out there and do it. But also, let's make sure we know what the hell we're voting for. You know, not just doing that. Because obviously, major implications. And speaking of voting, somebody needs to go talk to that Irish man that's in charge of that.

That guy's in charge. The Port Union. I don't think voting's going to help changing that guy's mind. I don't know what is going to change that guy's mind. We watched a video of a man who's president, I believe, of the Longshoremen Union. Okay? Irish lad.

Okay? Head of the union. Stat. He said, I got ports from Maine to Texas. Those are all my guys. And when my guys stop working, you have no idea. One weekend, 50,000 workers? Sorry about it, car salesman.

He said, no cars are coming in. You know where those cars are coming from, China? Our ports. Okay, how about construction workers? They're not going to have any lumber. They're not going to have any steel. Jobs are going to dry up. Guys are going to get laid off.

They're going to have no work. That's what's coming through any steel. Jobs are going to dry up. Guys are going to get laid off. They're going to have no work. That's what's coming through these ports here. I could cripple you, is what he said. So we just want to get a deal done. You want to get a deal done or you want this thing to kind of go? This is the man. We listened to this video. This is the president.

This Irish lad right here is the president of the dock or the port union, pretty much. All the workers that are striking that everybody on earth is going to hear about. The long showman. You're going to hear about this. This is going are striking that everybody on Earth is going to hear about. The Long Showman. You're going to hear about this. This is going to become a story. This is going to become one. If anything he's saying is true, this is going to become a real story. So let's make sure we're handling all of our business.

Okay? Let's get out there and let's go shake that guy's hand. Yeah, truly. Let's get some deals done. So look around the corner. We got a holiday season right around here. Oh, yeah. It's here.

It's October. It's here. Prime day. Yeah, Christmas stuff is out there in the stores right now. Why isn't that guy running for president? After I watched him speak for... No. Yeah, you.

Yeah, you. You. Not you, John. He was talking about... I'm not old enough. What do you think? Where do you think this steel's coming from? These cars.

Where do you think these cars are coming from? Is that of a movie? This could be AI, or this could be real. Nonetheless, somebody needs to go shake this irish guy's hands and we need to get some things done because the way they're selling this on the internet is like ports uh everybody kind of forgets about them you guys live inland there you don't really see the port much you don't really see the water much where the you think all this going from everything it? Everything. It's like, well, they got to be Jerome now.

Well, they're on the trucks. Well, how'd they get to the trucks? Oh, they had to. And he's like, all of them. Made it to Texas. I fucking got them all. You remember how bad it got when that one asshole turned that boat sideways in the canal? Evergreen, yeah.

Yeah, I remember that down in Panama. That one guy. We don't know. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a guy who, if he was to come through the port, they'd say, wow, we got a college football national champion here. We got a Super Bowl champion here. Jeez.

We got a Ryder Cup winner here. Holy shit. Let's make sure we handle with care. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Maine to Texas. Maine to Texas, he said. I got them all. That's what he said.

Hey, we better pay those guys. They all want more money, right? That's what they're trying to get, he said. I got them all. That's what he said. Hey, we better pay those guys. They all want more money, right? That's what they're trying to get, higher wages. But how long can this go on without us actually having big-time issues? I don't know. I saw a video a couple weeks ago about it that cracked into my algorithm because my name's Patrick McAfee. I think he just kind of said, yep, you need to hear this.

You need to hear what the average. You need to hear what your brother and your family are going through at the ports right now in this entire thing. There was like a conversation like one day is like one week. One week is like one month. And then one month is like good luck basically in the entire thing. And it's like bingo. It's like how time flies on the internet is how it works.

And I think it just started today. I think today is day one. And we don't know anything about anything. But what we do know is I watched a video of that guy. I think there is a deal to be done. You're going to have to operate on his terms. For sure.

And he understands his leverage. Don't even think about automation. Don't. That's part, that's a big part. So were there ships just hanging out outside the ports? Like remember back in the day when the ports, they couldn't handle all the ships and there's a ton of them just parked out

waiting to get in? So when Evergreen was sideways, if I do recall, all those boats were just sitting there. Yeah. Yeah, but even during COVID, I remember when they didn't have enough people to unload all these ships, they would show like 150 ships just sitting out there waiting to come in. Do you remember the shortage? What's that? When that happened, I believe the people on the West Coast got a raise.

And now that's where? East Coast. East the people on the West Coast got a raise. And now that's where. What about the East Coast? East Coast. That's the West Coast. So I remember there was a shortage of supplies because we were doing construction here on the Thunderdome. Couldn't get anything because everything was out at sea. It's absurd. It's like I can see a photo of it.

You see that boat right there? That's where everything you need. But we could see it. We just can't get it here. Let's figure it out with the ports. Need our ports. Seems easy. It seems like no problem at all. Seems like no problem.

No problem at all. I hope they get it worked out. Let's talk about seeming easy. Boy, Tua seemingly makes it look a lot easier than it actually is. I guess we're on an offense for the Miami Dolphins. A.J. Hawk. Titans get a huge win. Will Levis hurts his shoulder on a diving first down play. He an offense for the Miami Dolphins. A.J. Hawk, Titans get a huge win. Will Levis hurts his shoulder on a diving first down play. He is dressed for the rest of the game.

Mason Rudolph is playing, though, so that means Will Levis could have went back in, but instead they stick with the Rudolph. Titans get a big, boring win over the Miami Dolphins, leaving us to question, are the Dolphins crop, and are they going to be crop until Tua returns, or are the Titans maybe a team that can win any way they need to win? They have their backup quarterback going in the middle of the game and they steal the win. That's good coaching from Callahan.

Obviously, Rudolph being prepared and ready to go in is a big deal. Titans get this win. What is your takeaway from it? I mean, you're right. Big, boring win for the Titans, which they have no issue with. Like a win is a win. But, I mean, I just tend to think of the Dolphins here. When they kept continuing to show McDaniel on the sidelines, looking at his play sheet, you look at like, it just, people just look dejected. It sucks to lose in the NFL. And it sucks when you feel like

you don't have a whole lot of hope. And I feel like that's where the Dolphins are right now, at least without Tua. Okay, let's go to the next game. Seahawks, Lions, Motor City, muscle tarps, and blue helmets on. Looked good to Darius' point from the first hour. I heard that, Darius. You're right. It did look much better on TV than in the graphics I saw before the game. They look great. And it sounded great up there in the stadium as well.

I mean, it was buzzing. Calvin Johnson goes in at halftime. Seattle's playing great football. Lions are playing great football. This was a Monday night football game, and it lived up to the billing, AJ. Yeah, it did. Honestly, you know what was fun, too, was watching both sides, the Seahawks and the Lions, watch them run the ball.

These dudes run so hard. I love when you have a good mix between running pass and when dudes are running. They expect to score every single play it feels like you know i love watching that i don't know if you heard the stat that i read earlier from hembo about the balance of the ben johnson offense last night uh but pretty much it was detroit that was awesome yeah detroit gained 389 yards on Monday, 348 of which will be credited to the run game. Both on the ground, 116 yards, and then play-action pass was 232 yards.

So at his best, nobody marries pass and run game better than Ben Johnson, says Hembo in the stats that he sent over there. Montgomery's going to be tough to tackle. This Patrick guy got some big-time reps. Laporta is all over the place. St. Brown obviously able to do his thing. And J-Mo, J-Mo is faster than everybody on the field. And also, he can dunk.

And he said there were some people saying, I couldn't dunk on the team. And I said, I'm going to pay tribute to Calvin Johnson. I'm going to dunk this thing. You can't dunk, they said. Too small. He's high-stepping from the 30 all the way in there. And then he takes the penalty to pay tribute. And that was a great celebration.

I think they stopped this one. Jimmy Graham obviously was able to get up there and windmill it. There was numerous others that did it. Calvin Johnson. There was that one time that we got cock-eyed. It held up the game for like 40 minutes or whatever. You can't get stuck right there. You can't get Sprite commercial

right there. That's tough. But he got up. Good dunk. Are they going to find him? Definitely. Before we get right there. That's tough. But he got up. He got up. Good dunk. Are they going to find him? Definitely. Definitely. Yeah, they're finding him. Before we get to our guest that is here right now, I reached out about the celebration penalties because there's a bunch of them. And I said,

hey, remember you guys tried this. This ain't what the fans want. This isn't what anybody wants. They said, just can't do the weapons stuff. Can't do it. We just can't do the weapon. What makes it a weapon? I guess, I don't know. I guess if you quiver and pull a bow and arrow that is still a big sport.

Even if it's not like a firearm. So even a bow and arrow. What about ninja stars? What if I shoot a slingshot? I'm shooting a little rock out of a slingshot. What if you pull that thing out of your back pocket? Nope. That'd be a great selling. They don't want little rock out of a slingshot. What if you do? What if you pull that thing out of your back pocket? Oh, yeah.

Nope. That'd be great selling. They don't want kids bringing bow and arrows to the game. Yeah, because if you do that, it will be pretty chaotic. How many seats are those going to take up if you got a bow and arrow there? What if you're putting the gun down? What if you're taking a gun from somebody, huh? Yeah.

Holster it. Ooh. How about that? That would be sweet. Okay. So when are weapons allowed? Clear the chamber and have the magazine fall out. Yeah. Drop the thing.

Sheath the sword and throw it in. What if they did? What if they took a muzzleloader, brought that thing out, put the thing... Popped the dot in there. Fine. Go ahead. What? Fine.

No, they do it in England. No, they're going to put it in a lock case, an opening case, shut it. That's weird. Don't they shoot those things off in New England? In New England, they shoot them off. Oh! That's because you're allowed to in the Revolution region. Sorry.

Anyway, that was the message I got back. It was like, hey, we can't be doing the weapons stuff. We're trying to stop the weapons stuff. Everything else, you're good, but come on. And, okay. As long as we know that's the stance. But what if it is a ninja star, you know?

You have no idea if that's what they're... One of your teammates gets hit by it. Or a red coat celebration this weekend in England. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who will be playing in England this weekend against the Minnesota Vikings. He's a four-time NFL MVP. Currently, the head coach of the New York Jets.

Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Yay! Makes me think this whole intro of the Hinkle McCrinkleberry skit from Key & Peele. Two pumps, that's okay. Not three, though. skit from key appeal two pumps that's okay not three though what if what if so brandon cooks who's done the same the same celebration for as he's been a long time what if he just brings the arrow out and then what stabs with it or just brings it out just brings it out. Just brings it out. He's thinking about... Gets it out of the quiver. He's thinking about loading that, but just kind of holds. Fine. The referee's going to be watching.

Watching. Like in the skit. Is it the bow or is it the arrow? Is he going to load it? Is he loading it? What if he does pull it out? Just a slight little drop. What if he's just holding both of them?

If he's holding both of them but not in the action of, I mean, that is, how far out are we? And did he get grandfathered in potentially because that is his thing? Like the Lambeau leap got grandfathered in to the jumping into the crowd. We'll have to see. Alan Lazard got penalized for doing first down like this. First down. Well, that's two guns, ten shots.

He's done that for a while. That's two, yeah. That's two guns, ten shots. He's pointing with his finger. No, because they can hear him go, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, they heard it.

Yeah. But if he doesn't blow it out, right? It's not a gun then. It's his finger. Well, he got the silencer on. Yeah. We could tell he had the silencer on. Finger, but a muzzle.

If he just puts his thumb up. What about pointing the first down with your thumb up? Nope. That's a good one. Don't even think about it. You got to have good barrel. Muscle discipline. Muscle discipline. Yeah, muscle discipline, please.

You got to make sure whenever you're calling first down. What if you do look? Yeah, if you shoot it down. Michael Jackson and me, we just put that rifle down. Wait, what about CD? Because he's wiping his nose and diseases are technically weapons as well. Bio weapons.

Okay. That didn't say bio. What do you think, Aaron? That's a good point. No, not. We don't need to get into it. That was outlawed at the Geneva Convention. Aaron's got something on this, brother. There's no... All right, all right.

Okay, let's get to football. And also, good piece of information for anybody around the NFL right now. That is what they're looking for. Any weapon, it is a no-no. You might be able to sneak one by. I mean, people have been able to do it. We've seen them get into buildings and stuff for security. But I think the NFL is going to be studying what is a potential weapon and how

it is moving forward. And good luck to everybody celebrating a win. Let's talk about you and how you're feeling right now. You look bummed out on that sideline, buddy. They got a shot of you. The internet was doing its thing, obviously. The one that I saw said, when you come out

of your ayahuasca trip and now you're a member of the New York Jets. And they kind of dunked on the New York Jets, and they also dunked on you. But that visual of you being miserable on the sideline, I think a lot of Jets saw it, and they're feeling the exact same way. How are we now on Tuesday going into week five of the NFL season knowing there's a lot of football left, pal? Well, I don't know if I'm the only one that knows there's a lot of football left,

but there is a lot of football left but there is a lot of football left i i've done the internet some service i think we can all agree on that definitely given i'm sure zito can pull up uh you know an array of memes but started with the night in in arizona that was you know the one that i still get all the time uh when my helmet my 10 strips here i'm sure zito can dial that in real quick but uh yeah you know i'm feeling a little banged up uh took some shots um knees a little swollen but um but you know just kind of wear and tear week four i'm just you know i'm hoping that we can all have a little perspective here that seemed like like an outlier game. Obviously, Denver has a real solid defense.

But the weather and their defense and our lack of execution made us a pretty bad combination there. It only put up nine points. Okay, so let's talk about the weather a little bit. You said the weather sucked. So did I. It was a good little joke in the moment. Got a good pop.

They talked about it being a torrential downpour. With the cameras these days, though, it's tough. Well, it's supposed to be 60 and cloudy. That's what the weather report was all week. And it was bad, bad, right? I mean, you both look like crap. I mean, that was both offenses. It was a that was a tough game to watch. But can you explain the weather?

Can you explain the weather a little bit, a little bit more? It's classic New York weather. I mean, in Green Bay, we had the cold and you just start to to embrace it you got a bunch of kids from all over the all over the country moving living in in green bay or some of the surrounding towns hobart where uh where what is their slogan in hobart where greatness is growing i think it's i think what it is hell yeah that's where that's where i lived the last few years but uh you know a lot of kids from all over the country that you come together and you embrace, you know, guys from Centerville, Ohio.

You know, you just embrace the weather there. And I think we need to do the same thing. When it's crappy weather like that, we've got to embrace that and make it our own advantage because we know, age you know, there's so many games you play in the cold in Green Bay. Teams start to quit there in third quarter or fourth quarter. You know just like man i'm sick of this cold i'm sick of this snow this uh chilly wind or whatever it is and we it became a big advantage for us where we could put teams away early uh in some of those bad weather situations so we got to embrace that

you know it is kind of jet weather last year i went to a number of games and saw that was you know four or five games like that where it's misty it's windy it kind of it's damp and cold and uh damn near miserable and you just got to embrace that and push through it and I just don't think mentally all of us were able to to really uh embrace the conditions and and uh and play a little better yeah we used to talk about you wearing the long johns anytime the long johns came out for aaron rogers at green bay normally dicky the dicky yeah the whole thing yeah whatever dicky long john whatever you want you know we're talking about the when the waffle the hunting waffle cloth is showing underneath the jersey it's like okay aaron thinks it's very cold today but this means packers in a good spot that That is advantage for you. And I think one of our first

Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays, whenever the weather started to turn, you're like, it's all in your mindset. Like for us, where our belief is Lambeau, the frozen tundra is a weapon for us. Like other people don't want to play in that, or they think it's like a movie for us. It's an advantage. Whenever we play in it, we want to make it that way. Hearing you say the same thing about the Jets and MetLife is pretty cool, actually. I didn't even think about kind of tying those two together. But just shitty, dreary, rainy, windy, chilly is, hey, that should be our advantage. Not everybody else's.

I love that mindset. Go ahead, AJ. So with your whole cadence situation, you guys, have you and Salah figured all this out? Are you going to go back to, you're going to say, ready, set, hike now? Are you going to continue to do what you have been doing throughout your 20 years? Yeah, great question, AJ. Great question. We need to know.

We do need to know. Don said, hunt, hunt, hunt. Here we go. Yeah, you got to do it. Yeah, you never know. You never know. You know, I think the question may have been posed in a way that might not have been exactly what was said.

But listen, I've used my cadence my entire career. I didn't make it up. I stole it from the legend who was in front of me. I changed the numbers around a little bit maybe, but added some additional types of cadences to it and continued to. Even when Matt came, we added, you know, some cans and dummy cans and dummy Oscars and real Oscars and different things and quick counts. So you're always adjusting that. Everything that we do in the game, we do in practice.

And that's why I said after the game that it felt like, said used the word outlier maybe a better word is anomaly you know it was one of those games where you know we just jumped off sides five times and and before that we had one false start in three games and nobody complained about the cadence one of those is home but two of those are on the road and we're using various silent cadences we don't just go on one every time you know it's been an advantage for us we threw a touchdown week one on a on an offside on a silent count. It needs to be a weapon. In order for it to be a weapon, we've got to stay on sides. I think in those situations, and I don't know why Robert would get any, or even Hackett. Nobody deserves any crap for that

except for the players. We've got to make sure that we're staying on size. And I don't think it's an issue, hasn't been an issue in practice. It's again, another talking point for outside the building. Obviously it hurt us in some situations, so we gotta be better. But cadence is the cadence, it's the cadence.

You and Salah are good though. Big hugs, we did big hug, you know, cause we saw on the sideline, fist bump, not a hug that one time. And then immediately, i guess like six days later we saw in one jet to drive you guys hugging at the top of the ramp that probably could have been a piece of content that could have been put out a little bit earlier maybe to dispel the entire hug conversation none though i'm not we're not making their content over there or marketing that whole thing but the whole cadence thing i assume you two had to talk about that because it got loud i mean it got very loud people just continue to point like

yeah i mean this happened immediately after the game where the push to the chest thing happened this is and this is part of the learning process you realize and there's a various different hugs if you kept showing that clip there's guys uh yeah there's rudy you know rudy's a close hugger you know there's tony tony likes to say something before he hugs, you know, cap. You just shake his hand. Don't hug him. You know, he's not a big hugger. Quincy, he's a big hugger. You know, loves loves hugging. So you just learn the the the relationships with each person. And as you saw, you know, I'm I'm I'm a fast learner.

So I, you know, push Sala on on the field realize after the game he's a hugger but he's a he's a he's a tapper he you know he gives you three taps that's enough you know and we all know people like that so it's you live and you learn and you and you gotta adjust on the fly and i feel like i did a pretty good job with that you know when i thought he was a two-hand push guy you know like yeah you know push then, no, he actually wants a hug, but not a long hug and not a close hug. It's hips out or to the side, and it's three taps and then off. You know, where Rudy, you know, a linebacker coach,

he wants to kind of hold you in there. TD, he wants to say something, look you in the eye, and like say something to you and maybe whisper something in your ear. You know, so you've got to learn all these different types of things different type things just like with the handshakes you know all these kids have have their own handshakes i got a couple of some of the guys but but you got to learn the hugging styles too it's all different okay so we learned the hugging style uh we learned that potentially media and i assume coach shala is learning this uh with with you being on the team everything that you do is going to be talked about. I mean, let alone in New York.

But everything you do is going to be talked about. I assume Coach Shala expected that, understood that, but it's at a different level. We've got a chance to experience it the last five years. We appreciate you for these Tuesdays. Hell yeah. We appreciate these Tuesdays, obviously. Two times MVP in those entire things.

Nonetheless, maybe another one this year we shall see. But you and Coach Shala's relationship. Every day, learning more and more about each other and understanding how it could be perceived outside the building, or do you guys not even let that even affect how you interact with each other, the shit that's happening outside? We have some stuff planned at some point, a real maybe demonstrative embrace.

But again, I got to know he's a three tapper guy three taps to get in whatever type of affection i need to show him no you know what there's there's always going to be messaging and narratives out there and you have two choices you can uh ride the wave really a roller coaster um or you can say, fuck it, I don't care. And I'm the latter. You know, I don't get into what the conversation is going on outside the building around myself, the relationships that I have. The most important ones are looking a guy in the eye in a locker room or in a meeting room and knowing, you know, he's got your back, you get his back. Rob and I have a great relationship.

We have since day one when I got here. We have text message conversations, threads that we're in, conversations about a number of different topics outside of football. We've got a good friendship. We've got a good friendship. Yeah, he was interested in Egypt for sure. What did you say? I had to go over. We never talked to you about that i have a question that was on i think june 12 2024 right yeah 6 12 24 was that on purpose in this whole thing

no the 6 2024 was on purpose for. That was the solstice and sphinx solstice bucket list that I wanted to do. Because we kind of assumed the date mattered. Because if not, hey, rich guy, move your trip to Egypt.

That was kind of a conversation in this entire thing. And then I started thinking about it and it's like, there has to of a conversation in this entire thing, and then start thinking about it. It's like there has to be. There has to be a bigger reason in it all. It lived up to the hype, though, I think is what you said, right? It did, and those were OTAs, remember. Those were OTAs. Those matter.

Big time. They do matter. They matter for offseason, but offseason is offseason. You put that little box, set it off to the side. Nobody talks about it, thinks about it. box set off to the side nobody talks about it thinks about it again you know there's there's a lot of practice between offseason and training camp and you know and the start of the season and if we're still talking about that then hey you know so be it carry on hey i'm just i'm just gonna think about that and like russell brand said and uh forgetting sarah marshall I'm just going to think about that. And like Russell Brand said in Forgetting Sarah

Marshall, I'm just going to keep on living my life. That's right. Keep doing it. And you weren't at any of those other OTAs, right? Were you? Oh, yeah. I was at a few of them, I think. I think I made a few of them. We weren't working on the cadence, though. That's the problem. Alright, let's move.

Let's keep living your life. And you're going overseas. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Aaron, obviously later on in your career. Hi, Connor. Hey, how are you? Good to see you. You're looking good.

Nice hat. Cherished the little things. Looking at, you know, this London trip. It's a Danish concept. Oh, is that right? Yeah. Høygehaus. Denmark.

Denmark, yes. Yeah, Danish. Which is Danish. Obviously, I understood that. Of course, Viking, perhaps, you could say. I actually call it Dane-mark because... Oh, because the Danes? Because the amount of Danes that are rolling around up there. And they're all huge.

It's like you call Spencer Havner Spanx. Okay. Shout out Spanx. Okay. It's not Spanx. It's not Spanx. It's not plural. It's just Spanx.

Yeah, Spanx is close. Yeah. Anyways. There were multiple Span. Yeah, Spank's is close. By the way, he felt like you kind of shined him at AJ's birthday that one time. Me? I just want to get that out there, too. All right. Sorry, BC. No, Spank's a good guy.

We're cool. We love Spank. We're big Spank guys. Spank. Spank. Spank. Spank. Spank. Spank.

Now, there was two Spencers, and we liked them both. We'd say, Spank. Spank. Spank. Spank, spank, spank, spank. Now, if there was two Spencers and we liked them both, we'd say, Spanks, Spanks, Spanks, Spanks. And it would be positive. Would you say you're more of a Spank guy or like a real old school, tough, Pittsburgh, Shippensburg type of guy like John Kuhn? Kuhn! You know how we're playing. You know the game we're playing around here.

Go ahead, Con. Yeah, that was an easy Kuhn answer. That's not even close to the spank, but still. Kuhn will work on those ports. Oh, yeah. Kuhn will go work on those ports. We might need him to. We might need him to hit the ports actually very soon here

or just maybe go shake that guy's hand. Shake that guy's hand. Somebody needs to go shake that guy's hand. Quick. Fast. I'll cripple you. I mean, what are we going to do here without the ports? Forget about that, though. I mean...

Are they even going to be able to get back? Yeah. Speaking of, you might have a problem. Good sidetrack here. Really good sidetrack. This is your fault. Spanx, you got into this entire thing. Now we're talking about ports, but it is international conversation. And when you're talking about London. And John Kuhn. And John Kuhn. Dog. Great radio show. Legend. Shippenberg.

London's had a lot of trouble with our ports too going all the way back to the you know 1770s yeah taxation uh-huh they went in there and they threw that tea anyways it was a party they said but more so it was like uh it was a it was a dance on grave i mean they wanted they wanted better wages that's kind of a similar situation really history repeating itself taxation without representation I don't think so. Get this tea the hell out of here. Well, there was more to that than just that. Let's carry on.

Well, certainly there was other factors in there, but that was the one. That was the straw. Right? I mean, I haven't read enough books. I don't think about it. Watch a lot of documentaries. That was the one that really pissed them off. Yeah, with the Boston Massacre, too.

Can't forget about that. That's your hometown. Anyways, let's get back to international conversation, please, can we. Yeah, with the Boston Massacre too. Can't forget about that. That's your hometown. Anyways, let's get back to international conversation please, can we? Yeah, yeah. Aaron, looking forward to London here coming up. Obviously, later on in your career here, do you have any thoughts like, hey,

this might be my last international game. This is something where you kind of look around pretty cool being in London or is it more so like, thank God I don't have to travel overseas to play football anymore because God, this trip is a pain in the ass and I don't want to do high knees on the plane like Russell Wilson.

Do you have to do that? He will. He does. He should. I definitely. I'll be doing all that for sure. Yeah, no, I do think this could be this could be it for London. You never know. You know, Green Bay and Philly went to Brazil.

There's usually a game in Mexico City. Not sure if there is one this year. Germany has hosted a game. It'd be fun to play in Spain or France, I think. That'd be another option, I think, at some point for the NFL to look at. I remember years and years ago we talked about doing one international week, so every team, you know, 16 games in 16 places outside the country, which would be pretty cool, and then a bye week after that,

and the league kind of submarine that with the 17th game possibly. But, no, I enjoyed the experience last year. We had a ton of Packer fans, or two years ago, we had a ton of Packer fans there, obviously, because they were everywhere. And it felt like it was like 70-30 Packers. Not sure what the mix is going to be. Obviously, Minnesota's got a great fan base too.

And there's just fans who are just there wearing different jerseys. Some of them probably don't even know what the hell's going on half the time. But there's great sports fans over in Europe we had a good time last time we got to go to a soccer game at wembley the u.s women's national team was playing the uh the british uh national team and so that was a lot of fun alan and i went over there and had a good time uh got to sit in a box with uh all people from Ted Lasso, which was cool.

So it's fun. It's a good trip. There's always thoughts on when you should go over, and they're always looking at the analytics, what the record is, people that go on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday. Matt wanted to go over on Thursday a couple years ago, so we went over like 5 o'clock on a uh central time and that was kind of weird on your body because then you're trying to stay up all day friday and you're exhausted um but it's just you know what to expect we're going over on

thursday again we're leaving it's a shorter flight than uh green bay to london it'll be uh you know new jersey to london i think it's like six hour flight um but it's just it's a you know, New Jersey to London. I think it's like a six-hour flight. But it's just, you know, you've got to get your body somewhat on the clock out there and try and find time to rest and get on some sort of a normal schedule. Luckily for us, you know, a couple years ago we went right into a game the next week. It was so early. I think it was week five for us. We didn't do a bye week this week. We don't have a bi-week but

we have a monday night game so we could actually arrest which would be nice are you gonna have a spot of tea when you go over there yeah i'm kind of with with ted lasso and that i'm not a huge fan of tea in general now there's there's certain types of tea certain types of teas, as you've referred to it, that I do enjoy. But if I'm going to drink a hot beverage, I'd rather drink coffee. They got good coffee over there, too. Hot chocolate? We're just in Ireland and I think it has no hot chocolate. You don't like hot chocolate?

Too much sugar. You think he's taking in that much sugar, you idiot? God, I'm so dumb sometimes. I mean, Hugo, dude, please. Cherish the little things, like little marshmallows and hot chocolate. Oh, so good. We're getting into that season right now. See if they can get in. True. I don't even know if we're going to be able to have hot chocolate. We're going to have to stock up now.

Three, four months of groceries. Marshmallows are homegrown. Marshmallows are American. Yeah, you're right. We're definitely putting that shit in our mouths. Pizza. Pizza's from Italy. Pizza Hut? No. Pizza Hut created pizza.

There you go, Tony. French fries. Crepes. Tiny little pancakes? Love them. I'm going to have a bunch of those in Berkeley, huh? Is that all you guys serve over there in Berkeley? I'm so glad you brought this up, man.

I'm so excited for you guys going out there like i i i didn't know that there was only five teams that hadn't or five now or five before this that hadn't hosted five cities i don't know that recently i think uh reese said that on the on the program when they announced it uh it's awesome it's great for for berkeley there's uh you know a great fan base there it's a really interesting city you know you and I have already sidebarred on on some stuff but if I can give you any recommendation there's two little Berkeley staples one's called top dog hot dogs and the other is called La Burrito which is right next door which is a Mexican spot that I went to a bunch when I was out

there I heard that blondies pizza is no longer there I don't know if that's true or not if that was a lie, but it's a great little city, great college town. You were saying, do you think there's going to be fans there? I think for sure. It's game days in town. 6 a.m. That game starts 7.15 local, I

think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, local, yeah. It's a late one, yeah. Are you sticking around for the game, or are you just doing a DJ? Definitely sticking around for the game, or are you just doing a DJ? Yeah, definitely. Definitely sticking around. Definitely sticking around for that game. Certainly. It will be. Cam Ward's coming to town.

It's going to be awesome. Cal fans are going to be bananas. But 10-15 Eastern kickoff for that game. That's the latest, I think, game day I've been a part of. So if the fans are showing up at 6 a.m. and then that thing, that's all. I'll be very impressed. I'll be certainly impressed i i i know that the cow fans were very loud on the internet about getting cow there and

before cow getting uh uh college game day there's six six schools all together now there's five now there's five yeah illinois maryland ruckers syracuse and virginia ruckers ruckers you know it was like the year is only a matter of time. This could be the year. This could be the year. Well, I don't know if they got you where they got you, uh, you know, after your appearance, you're going to get a chance to go lay down, but hopefully they got you at the double tree. If they do, make sure you have a couple of those cookies and take a walk around that little, uh, that little, uh, Marina there, where there was a famous, uh,

infamous case that, uh, there was, uh, Scott Peterson, allegedly dumped the body of his pregnant wife there in the Berkeley Marina. Okay, I'll check that out. I'll make sure I fucking put it on the schedule. There's a documentary that's out. It's pretty good. I think it's on Netflix

about the whole thing. I can't believe you haven't seen it. I'm sure BC has seen it. I don't know. I've seen things. It is good. There's a lot of murderers out there in California. You know, the Midwestern whites get a lot of heat because of the creation of serial killers because there is

a lot of them. California has a lot of documentaries about murders as well that just pop up out of nowhere. Zodiac, the guy that was a bum down in LA. What's his name? Creeper? No, the guy he was the night stalker night stalker zodiac killer uh the yeah the uh yeah that's where that guy was at yeah yeah yeah and then there was this one up in tahoe the guy was staying in tahoe oh yeah oh yeah

that was the donner donner party well, yeah. They ate each other. I haven't seen that new one. I'm watching the McMahon one. Ate each other? Yeah, Vince McMahon's got a six-piece documentary on Netflix that is wrestling good for the rest. It's a lot of access in there. You watching docs? Reading books?

What are we doing? We're all ball right now. Oh, a lot of ball and a little bit of books i'm a couple books i'm going to take with me out there i just got done reading the seven spiritual laws of success i talked about last week uh which is a great one chopra kind of going going back through that one it's a good one to just kind of read a chapter every single day but uh yeah i'm kind of in the mode where i'm reading some books i've already read, some of the ones on the book club. But I definitely got through a few, you know, in the early part of this year that I'll have to break out once we officially start the book club back up, which I guess has not happened today.

But maybe next week I'll bring one out. Okay, breaking. The Aaron Rodgers Book Club will make its third season return next Tuesday after a massive game in London, England. That's good news. Let's get back to London, England here. D-Butch got a question for you, Aaron. Yeah, I know it's only Tuesday.

I haven't probably fully dived in and seen all the clips of the Minnesota Vikings defense. One of my favorite defenses so far. Still one of the, what, two undefeated teams now? Yep. So, Brian Flores posed a lot of problems for offense. What have you seen so far on that tape with the Vikings defense? Well, they do a lot of different things.

They throw a lot of different things at you. The front's really good. Harrison Phillips, I played against him, is a stout player in the middle. They've got some young-edge rushers, young guys in the back end other than Harrison and Gilmore. But they play really well together. They throw a lot of different things at you. Obviously, they have empty pressure.

The thing that they do really well is that they are able to call into pressures and call out of pressures. So they have an awareness where if it looks like you're checking out of pressure, they're going to check out. And then sometimes they can check into pressures as well. So, um, he has a smart defense. Uh, B flows obviously got them, uh, on the same page, um, because they do a lot of different things. It's master disguise. I've known that about Harrison forever. I love Harrison, but I'm an old golfer, by the way, he had a great year at Tahoe. I want to shout out, uh,

H Smith. He's also picked me off twice, I believe, in his career, which he made sure he told me, reminded me about when we played together out there. But Harrison's a great dude, still playing at a high level, still a master of his guys. And Murphy's playing real well on the outside too. Shaq Griffin played a lot, known about him since he played in Seattle. Him and his brother actually combined on a sack on me, I believe, in a playoff game, which was a cool moment for them, a crappy one for me.

Hey, can you sign this poster we both have? It's like the dunk posters, you know, as a kid. You know, you always wanted those posters of somebody just jamming on somebody, you know, Dominique Wilkins or, you know, MJ damning on somebody. It's like me getting, you know, getting sacked by a brother. Yeah, but that's a compliment. Cool moment for them. And anybody that gets a pick on you, it's a big deal.

You know, it's like you never turn the ball over. So you're talking about Harrison getting two on you. The reason why he's reminding you is because he's like, hey, just a heads up. You've only thrown like 30 interceptions your entire career. I got two of them. The reason why he's reminding you is because he's like, hey, just a heads up, you've only thrown like 30 interceptions your entire career. I got two of them. Yeah, it's like 5%. Yeah, see you next season, pal.

Can't wait for it. You know, there's a lot of news coming out about Devontae Adams. Don't say anything. Don't be tampering with shit, Aaron. Don't you be tampering with anything. Seems to be heating up the internet right now. Oh, yeah.

As we speak, heating up about the Devontae Adams Las Vegas Raiders situation Antonio Pierce won't put you in a spot. Won't put you in a spot. You were talking about playing golf with him out of Tahoe when he said can't wait to play with him again. Mike Greenberg said he'll do a show

shirtless, I think is what he said, if Devontae Adams doesn't end up as a New York Jet. Does not? Yeah, that's what he said. By Halloween. Obviously that's right before the trade deadline. That's what Mike Greenberg said before the season even started. He said, I'll go naked.

He's that matter of fact about it. He said he would go gong out, I think, on get-ups. Sacking all. If it didn't happen. On the table. I think that is what he said. Yeah, we shall see. Obviously, Brian Flores's defense is a phenomenal one excited to see you joust with him um do you and the d coordinator have moments

every game only some d coordinators is there any of those where it's like uh we're currently jousting right now i mean there's been some words exchanged over the years for sure. I remember Gunther Cunningham and Ron, what's his name? He's got, he was in Detroit forever. He would flip me off all the time. Him and I would go back and forth, but. Marinelli. Rod Marinelli. Yeah. I said Ron. Sorry, Rod. Jesus. He just went like this. He literally just did it from wherever he's at, walking very fast. That happens, but a lot of the coordinators are up in the

box. They're in the box now, so there's not a lot of coordinators on the field. It depends on defensive head coach, offensive head coach. Every now and then, there's some things said, but it's usually like a, you know, like a wink would, Martindale would always, you know, you know, do things to me or, you know, we played them last year in the preseason and he says in like cover three, every snap and blitz zero, like four of the six snaps I was in, I might've flashed him a bird at one point. Yeah, of course. But I love Wink.

You know, you go against these guys for so long, there's mutual respect. You know, with Vance last week, you know, I've gone against Vance a number of times. He's a phenomenal coach. Got a really good scheme. And I didn't get a chance to see him after the game, but there's a mutual level of respect.

I always enjoy going against Spags. You know, he's always, you know, will come up to me and say something to me, and he's, you know, been one of the best and not the best for a long, long time. But there's a mutual love and respect every now and then. There's, you know, some laugh or a smile or something. I remember we played against Tampa forever ago. And Raheem Morris was the head coach.

He was calling defense. And both my feet were banged up for whatever reason. I got, like, turf till on my right foot and something else on my left. And I was on the injury report that week and I like ran out of bounds for a first down and he said, I thought you were supposed to be hurt. What are you out here running for? You know, there's comments like that that happen every now and then.

But I have a lot of respect for Coach Flores and what he's accomplished in the league and what he does with that defense. That team's a wagon, brother. The Vikings are an absolute wagon. It is, I don't want to say come out of nowhere because the conversations in the off season but kind of come out of nowhere it's been a lot of fun to watch on that note tone has a question for you aaron yep aaron hi aaron good

to see you uh and they are you too they are running the ball with old number three three in purple now are you excited to see your old running mate aaron jones over there and we saw that you got to uh see that sweet sweet boy boy Zach Wilson this last weekend how's he doing too well Zach's engaged he's doing well sweet boy turn into a sweet man yeah way to go those days of running wild are over they've tamed the Beast yeah I think he's gonna he's gonna be settled down maybe have some kids here pretty soon but wow Aaron Jones Jones he's going to be settled down. Maybe have some kids here pretty soon. But Aaron Jones, Jonesy's one of my all-time favorite teammates. And there's nobody like Jonesy. I mean, he is a special, special human, one of the best guys to be in the locker room with,

best guys to have next to you in the shotgun, smart as can be, tough, physical, slasher, great hands, but just always positive attitude. I mean, Aaron Jones is, you know, I say this about a few guys. I say this about Kuhn, you know, once I remember. But, like, he epitomized, I thought, what it meant to be a Packer. Like, great in the community, phenomenal teammate, a lot of pride in his performance, pride in wearing those colors.

And he's going to be a Packer Hall of Famer when he's done playing. But, you know, there might have been some thought that he didn't have a whole lot left in the tank. And I think if we've seen through four weeks, that's incorrect. Yeah, revenge games too. And of all people in the league, you know, there's certain guys you really pull for. Some guys you don't even play with, you know,

but you just, like, respect their game. You're like, man, I like that guy guy i want him to do well every week i play with aaron jones and i pull for aaron jones every single time he laces up he is a fucking great human being and a great player and a guy you just always felt good about uh when he was on the field i remember he and he told the story when i guess he wrote a piece i think for uh players players tribune yeah and mentioned one time when i i said i want 33 on the field and it was just because the way he went about his business he was so professional always prepared and the way he practiced too and there's a few guys over the years that practiced

the right way i always say say Ryan Grant practice right away. I mean, that guy was a stud finished runs, Jordy Nelson practice way, way Devante Adams practice the right way. Aaron Jones practice the right way. I mean, there's a way of doing it where you finish the right way.

You do everything right. You take pride in your performance every single time you lace it up. And I could go on and on because I love the guy so much, but he is a special special human being and i saw a little bit that kevin said after the game about um guys that change culture and he is one of those guys and and you would think oh there's got to be a ton of guys in the locker room there like this it's not true there's a few of these glue guys and when you're glue guys your best players that's when you get a chance to do something special. So I'm not surprised.

Obviously, Sam's playing great, and I love Sam, and I give him so much credit, and I'm really happy for him. He's a great dude. He comes to my events out in SoCal every year, our flag football thing, and he's playing great. But when you have your glue guys, your Aaron Joneses, or your best players as well, and also your best people, you can do something special. Hell yeah, Aaron Jones.

That'd feel good. I don't know if Aaron Jones is going to see that win, but if he watches that and hears a former teammate of his who happens to be a Mount Rushmore player in the league speak that glowingly, that'd feel... Hey, Aaron, you did good. You're done good, pal, and only going to continue to do so. Kevin O'Connell over there.

Seemingly. Well, listen, let me just finish on the aaron jones thing okay more this isn't this isn't uh you know a wild take anybody that's been around jonesy that's played with him that coached him would say the exact same thing and it's no surprise i remember the story about flea finding his uh you know his his locket that he lost on the field. I think he's had his father's ashes in it, right? Yeah. The reason that he did that, I mean, Flea's a great dude, no doubt. But Jonesy is such a special human, like anybody would want to do that for Aaron.

Anybody's played with him, coached him, would say the exact same thing about him. He's a special guy. Yeah. Man, good for you, Aaron Jones. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Go ahead, AJ. That was awesome. Hey, you mentioned Sam Darnold. What do you think it is? special guy yeah man good for you aaron jones hell yeah hell yeah dude uh go ahead aj that was awesome say we mentioned sam dornell what do you think it is we have there's some quarterbacks

around the league obviously they get to the second third stop and they seem to flourish they seem to kind of do well in whatever the system may be the players around them like what do you think what do you make of that why does it not work sometimes obviously work somewhere else later on in your career well most of us are system quarterbacks. And that's gotten a knock as being like, you know, oh, you're only a system. Some of us can be the system. You know, you can bring a certain type of way of playing and you add in a cadence or play fake ability or different things that evolves the system.

But, you know, there's guys that can plug and play. I mean, you got the guys listed there, you know. Andy Dalton played in a lot of systems. He's a plug and play guy. Joe Flacco, plug and play guy. Kirk Cousins, plug and play. I mean, all those guys, you know. Yeah, I mean, I could say about all those guys.

I mean, but they all, you'll see, Baker was a top pick. Sam was a top pick. Andy was a top pick. Flacco was first rounder. Kirk, I think, was second rounder. Gardner was a later pick, I believe. Not sure about Derek. But a lot of those guys, you know, had some struggles early in their career.

And it takes a while. You know, the development of takes a while you know the development of the quarterback you know the that's why you got to give so much credit to to what uh jayden's doing in in washington because that's the outlier i mean that's the anomaly uh most of us it takes a little time for us to to figure it out and especially with the way quarterbacks being coached in college and they're not they're not calling plays they're not audible and they're not huddling up. They're not taking a snap under center. The NFL is a different game. The NFL is, is playing under center,

especially with the way defense is playing now with all this to show you got to play under center. You got to run the football and you get to have play action. As you guys said, that's that about Jared Goff and, and all the yards that came off of the, of the action game. It's, it's, there's a learning curve and that's why what Jaden's doing in Washington is an outlier, and he deserves a lot of credit, as does Cliff Kingsbury and Dan Quinn for, obviously, the environment he's created there. But most of us, we take a little time to get into it.

We need some time to learn the game, to grow, to not have overreactions about our play. Think if Peyton Manning had been playing in 2024, his rookie year. I mean, think about the overreactions that would have happened with that. That's why I think you've got to give a guy like Bryce Young some time. You know, like whether it's in that system or another system, like it takes time. And to place this mantle on you to be this savior for a a team it's usually not very good if they're picking high it's usually

not one player away and sometimes in the offseason the gm can come in and bring in the right pieces and also pick a guy or you have draft capital as we saw with chicago where you have a number of different pieces you can bring in to put around the first pick to put them in a position to be as successful as possible but it's it's the jayden daniels are the outliers and most of us we need to take some time and whether we have the time to do that as a backup that's that's the best way that just doesn't happen very much or at all in the nfl anymore so now you got to figure it out on the run you have to have an owner who's patient and trust the process. And you have to have a team that continues to build and get better and not crush your confidence as some of those guys dealt with earlier in their career. So I salute all

those guys for the way they're playing. I know some of them well. I don't know others as well. But they're all guys who exemplify patience with the quarterback position, which there's very little of in our game now. Okay, there's so many different topical conversations we could have off of your answer right there. Thank you for giving that answer and the depth that you did. Obviously, what you say about the matter matters a lot more than what us or anybody else that is kind of speaking about it.

Peyton Manning was on the program, I think, maybe like three weeks ago. And he talked about that rookie year, about how he felt like he needed it, though. Needed to play, throw him in a deep end. Obviously, he still has the interception record for rookies. He thinks he'll have it forever, even though they've added a game. But he talked about, like, those game reps really mattered to him. Then you're the complete opposite. What is that, three and a half years?

You wait, and then you get dropped. Three, yeah, three years. Three years, and then you get dropped in, then you're the complete opposite what is that three and a half years you wait and then you get dropped three yeah three years three years and then you get dropped in and you're in there you said that you think being a backup in like kind of waiting is perfect for you is it situations are situational like because what's happening in new england right now in your uh division obviously so you you know that obviously uh but that's a massive talking point what's happening with dra Drake May and Jacoby Brissett. And it's like the plan we thought going in was like Drake May is going to back up. He's going to watch quarterback. He's going to see how it goes.

Then inevitably they'll put him in. Some Patriots fans, not all of them, are like, if not now, when are we going to do it? Coach Mayo came out and said, Jacoby's our starter 100%. We're moving forward. So allegedly we would assume that means he's sticking with the plan. But you watching that situation develop or other quarterback situations develop, I assume you do have some sort of opinions on how your situation ended up with Brett Favre being the starting quarterback for like three years

and then you getting dropped in and kind of not missing a beat. Jordan Love, a couple years behind you, then getting dropped in, not missing a beat. Is it just – it depends on the player or if you can't like peyton was never going to be a backup quarterback the human he is the situation he was going in could he have benefited from it how do you feel about that and i know it just sent a lot but there's a lot happening in this vein of conversation right now in sports yeah i mean i would i would ask that's a question for peyton whether it would have benefited or not but um i think ryan leaf would have benefited from not, but I think Ryan Leaf would have benefited from it,

and he was the second pick that year. It's just different, different situations. And again, I go back to the patience with Coach Mayo out there, just having the patience to let his kid develop and to let Drake develop. Jacoby's a proven starter in the league for a long time. My situation is very rare, and I would say the same thing about Jordan, where I got to and he got to sit behind future Hall of Famers who can show what it looks like, can allow you to learn

without being thrown in there or have your confidence shredded at all, to work on your game, to learn defenses, to learn the offense, become a master of the offense. And then in spots, you get a chance to play, you know, preseason, you know, injury here and there. And you start to gain a little confidence with that. And then when you hit the ground running, you got to go. And that's why last year was to make a rookie year just like it was 2008 for me,

right, wrong, or indifferent. I think I showed, you know, that I could be a long-term starter think I showed that I could be a long-term starter. Jordan obviously showed he could be a long-term starter, and away they went. That's just not the game plan anymore because it's such a reactionary league from owners and fans where it's like, oh, we lost. Oh, put the other guy in.

Oh, we lost. Oh, fire this guy. Get rid of this guy. That's not a great way to operate. If you're an owner, you hire the guys you think can get the job done and you trust them. And you're a GM and you hire a head coach, you trust them to get the job done. And you set the plan. And if the plan is good enough day one, it should be good enough after week four, it should be good enough to week

10, should be good enough in year two. And you're like, is this the time we've got to play this guy? When he's ready, when the system is ready ready when the guys around him are ready then play him and sometimes that's in year one or sometimes you don't have a choice you don't know what you're gonna get i don't know if they knew what they're gonna get from jayden daniels we saw him in the in the joint practices i thought it looked good i liked his film from college because i watched two of the kids they had uh i thought he was obviously the intangibles you know scrambling ability incredible uh could the read option stuff work in the league was obviously the intangibles you know scrambling ability incredible uh could the read option stuff work in the league i don't know you don't know you

never know but he's obviously figured it out again we're four games in four games you look pretty damn good historic really damn good yeah but but you never know until until they're out there even if a guy is ready in the second year you you never know. And you need to have patience. And I know that's a really hard thing to have from owners and fan bases and coaches because it's a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league and a snap, knee-jerk reaction league. You guys do it every Monday, overreaction Monday. And that's part of it because you're part of it, and it's not a bad thing.

It's just the way our league is. But we need to have a little patience with these quarterbacks if if you have a guy now let's say this in closing if you have a guy who you know is going to be a long time decade-long starter that's who you believe he is and you might have to go through some growing pains the first couple years you might or you might sit him and know when he comes in he's going to be a decade-long starter. You got a situation in place, you think it can bridge the gap.

For us in Green Bay, it wasn't bridging the gap. It was a guy we think we went to championship with, obviously. And then, all right, then let him go for a decade. You know, it went a little longer than that. With Jordan, it wasn't a bridge the gap. It was me playing at a high level. And then when it was time for his time, you think he's going to be a 10-plus-year starter.

With these young guys, if you're playing them right away and you think he's a 10-plus-year starter in the league, that's his ceiling. Then you've got to go through the growing pains without overreacting every single game. Win, crown them, lose, get rid of them. That's just not sustainable in this league. It's not sustainable in business either.

And we are a business. So the business should be what is in the best interest of the business moving forward in a positive direction. And that is not overreacting. That's hiring the right guys, trusting them to do their job, and then letting them do their job. I appreciate that answer on the entirety of the NFL right there. And we'll get better to not be a part of the problem.

Right, boys? I'm not pointing the finger. You guys are a part of the conversation. And that's the conversation. Yeah, agreed. Agreed 100%. But whenever you start laying out some of those things about patience and transition and stuff like that, it's like those first couple years might be

bad, but it doesn't lead to a decade of being terrible. Yeah. You know? And it's like I think fans are tough to be like, oh, so we're just punting on this year? This year is just a bad year? It's like might need this year to be a bad year so that the next 10 to 15 we're not saying the same.

And here's another point to that. Les Snead in L.A., what did he do? He mortgaged his draft capital for players he thought could help him win a championship, knowing there might be a couple thin years where we're going to have to figure some things out, and Matt's going to have to play great, and Sean's going to have to call great games, and we're going to have to win some games with some young guys because we mortgaged draft capital to win a championship. And I would call on Rams fans, would you rather trade four good years of,

you know, we got close, for one year winning a championship and three years where you're kind of struggling just to be in the playoff hunt? Good question. That is a good, especially at home. I mean, I think we all know the answer give me that yeah every what i mean well bc what is the answer the championship every single championship yeah every single time right yeah that's and i and i but you know i salute less for that and i know i'm a little bit um but he he went all in on those guys and they won a

championship and now they have a ring they can wear whenever they want that says world fucking champ at home too i mean that's a whole nother the business conversation about two teams in la super bowl in la winning the super bowl in like that is i mean do you think stan cranky's mad that he's got another ring on his finger that guy wins a lot honey yeah avalanche they want i mean even when i lost he was saying, Lewis, didn't he in Everton? They were suing him big time. And he's got a great winery in Napa, too. Stan, you dog. Okay.

Salty dog. Aaron, we appreciate the hell out of you, man, for joining us on this Tuesday. Obviously, for the last five years, you've answered the bell every Tuesday, even after losses, hard losses. You've come in here. You've answered the bell every Tuesday, even after losses. Hard losses. You've come in here. You've talked. You've let us in on what your mindset is

as the season goes. I think ultimately Jets fans are going to be thankful that you did as such. I know it's not as fun after a loss, but we appreciate the hell out of your time. Not as fun, but good day, mates. Spot a T. You are going to have a spot a T, you son of a bitch.

Good luck over there, and safe travels to London. We appreciate you. Book club next week. Fingerprints of the gods. That's right. Book it. We got a 900-pager for you. Need it.

And then we're going to have another one. Is it going to be weekly, biweekly? We'll start with one, and we'll see how it goes. Okay. A book is coming. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you, buddy. Aaron! The first couple years we did it,

after losses. There wasn't a lot of losses. No. He won the MVP first two years. One seed. Yeah, home field. There wasn't a lot of losses but when a loss would happen a lot of people would be like is he going to show up is he going to show up and answer and it's like every time he did i even wondered numerous times after some games i'm like if he doesn't come on tuesday i completely understand like i would completely understand

but every time he comes on i don't want to say it's like therapeutic for him but i assume it is and then also yeah the fans of the team are like, okay, all right, here we go. Because that R-E-L-A-X relax thing is always kind of a part of the messaging. And for him, you can tell he's not as happy, but also he knows we got another game coming, and then another one coming, and then another one coming. So you get a chance into the mentality of somebody that's at the top of their sport where it's like hey you guys can be pissed and we appreciate that you're pissed we're just as pissed as you are for about 12 hours then we are going to try not to be pissed for all parties next week and then we got another one and then we got another one it's like cool to

see him like frame it you know AJ it's been cool to kind of watch him handle those moments and today obviously after what happened against Denver. Yeah, he mentioned it. Like, the NFL season can absolutely be a roller coaster if you allow yourself to get on that roller coaster. And it's not fun. It's not fun, like, up and down. Like, hey, oh, my God. Cedar Point.

I'm the happiest guy I've ever been. We just won a game. Then the next game, like, oh, everyone's on suicide watch, like, for a whole week. It's tough. Like, yeah, it sucks. Really bad to lose. We know that. Look at the Dolphins last night. Like, it does not. on suicide watch for a whole week. It's tough. Yeah, it sucks. Really bad to lose. We know that.

Look at the Dolphins last night. It's not fun at all. But you've got to have some kind of perspective. The only way we're going to get better is if I don't sit here and feel sorry for myself and I figure out a way to make this team better. Yeah, and I wouldn't understand bad roller coasters because I grew up in Pittsburgh and went to Kennywood. So there's only good roller coasters.

They don't have any roller coasters there, so you don't really know. What did Big Ben have to say about Kennywood again? He said his kids love it. Did he say that? Are we lying up here now? That's what he said. Give him a call. That wasn't what he said.

I heard what he said. There was something he said before that. Which was? But then he said his kids go every year and they love it. What did he say before that? Do you think Ben Roethlisberger walked through Kennywood in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? I mean, he's a god. He can walk anywhere in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Give him the coyote costume or whatever. It's a kangaroo. And that's Kenny the kangaroo. You scumbag. Son of a bitch. You think just because Ben Roethlisberger could play quarterback in the NFL for 18 years, he could just put on that costume and be Kenny? I don't think so.

Okay? So let's have a little respect for Kenny the Kangaroo as well. But he said he's never been to Kennywood. And then he said, I grew up in Ohio. I've got to see your point. And then dunked on everybody else. But then he said, my kids go every year. They love it. And it's like, Ben, we need you at Kennywood.

We'll turn that fucker into Bennywood if you want to. We'll shut that thing down. Yeah, there you go. Kind of let you do your own thing. Nonetheless, the rollercoaster ride of the NFL season is possible, and fans are tasked with living it. The passion of the fans and of us is the reason why the NFL is what it is. But players got to be the adults,

and coaches got to be the adults in the room. Go like, all right, we got to focus ahead. Vikings, tough one. After the Broncos? Yeah. That's a tough one. A rolling. in london yeah it's brutal switch up your your routines switch up your building switch up everything switch up time zone and uh yeah play a wagon one of the only who knows what the field will be like either is the field gonna be all right oh boy the field's sloppy over there it seems like it's a great great question. Soccer fields are always not when soccer is played on it. When soccer plays there, it looks beautiful.

Yeah, but I think soccer running is different than what football running is. It's also 120 pounds versus 300. About heavier people. And also scrumming. Everybody's in the way you're pushing off. You're trying to drive things in football. In soccer, you're trying to move things. So it's a little different

push onto the pitch. Like feet. Yeah, like feet, quick feet. It is at Hotspur, which I believe is a newer stadium than Wembley, which I believe they play at sometimes. Hotspur, do we know the Hotspurs? Tottenham, Tottenham, Hotspurs. Actually, come on, JJ brought it up.

I believe that's what he's talking about, their stadium. I believe that field walks in and out or changes levels. Oh, it's got the different levels? In and out, yeah. It's got like the concert. It's got the grass, the turf, the basketball. I think there's a court. They'll put the poopy one up for the NFL.

Is it super grass? I don't know. That's turf, right? Was that turf? I think this is the turf. They said, let's get the grass off. Let's go to cement and roll this turf on top. That's not real. Go back to the beginning, let's get the grass off. Let's go to cement and then roll this turf on top. Brock Hart. It's not real.

Go back to the beginning of that. Hold the fucking phone. What? This field is incredible. For who? Roll out the socks. So they're taking the grass out. That's the grass, right?

Yeah, they took it outside for a little sunbathe. And then they beat the turf to the fucking... Look at that. It's actually just paint. They're just playing on cement. There's paint. All're just playing on cement. There's paint. All right, we don't need to watch this.

Oh, no. That's not good. It's just on a conference floor. Yeah, it's just rock hard. Yeah. Are they got coconut husking there or is that... I hope not. Oi! Get the poopy field.

They're just rolling out the rubber pellets. Oh, so it's turf. Yeah, that helps. Yeah. It's not even grass. It's going to stink. Man, how about them going, look how sweet this field is. Let's get it out of the fucking way.

Yeah. It does look cool. And it has a little bounce to it, you can tell, because of what it's on top of. It's on top of some staging or whatever. Yeah, they weren't. Oh, wait, this is Bill. Wait a second.

It was last year. Last year. From where? Is that Wembley or Tottenham? That's Tottenham. Okay. All right. Well, good luck, everybody.

Let's wash those knees. Go get it. Let's keep our feet up.. All right. Well, good luck, everybody. Let's wash those knees. Go get it. Let's keep our feet up. Feet up. Maybe wear those Joey Flack. Need them. Adjustable bottoms. Yeah, the movable. The rinse ones. How about that, though? Them saying, look how awesome this field is. We're not letting

them use it. Yeah, you're not using our grass. In America, they're like, for soccer, let's go ahead and put a good one on top. Get the best form. What the fuck's going on? That was eye-opening right there. Yeah, it's flipped.

It's reversed. Don't let, what's his face? Boktari. Oh, Boktari. Boktari. Yeah, just. He saw that video and he literally, what? He thought about it.

I flew over. Hey, you better fucking flip this. Roll that field back out put your turf on top of the field now do whatever you might have done it himself i bet you he did actually overnight like tc and mission impossible does it without them even noticing maybe That's not a weapon That's a pretty good seller Nail guns?

Jackhammer? Nail guns? Turning into a construction site That's interesting because is he shooting a gun or is that a nail gun that he's trying to fix inside of the stadium? You never know. That's what I was thinking about. Somebody should jackhammer because that could be a weapon depending upon who's underneath it.

Yeah. Yeah, also it could just be on like a pogo stick. But now that we're talking about this, what if, I mean, they can rob like a bank or a treasure because they do that Rob celebration where they break into the safe but you could definitely do that you can do the safe unless there's a gun inside of that you're stealing yeah you go to the still is fine stealing is fine as long as you're not shooting them buddy gosh I'm not steel what if you get a fake knife fight though did you the knife fight I think is going to be a problem uh it because they won't

know if it's a knife or a sword both of those could kill your generation did you knife fight though did you the knife fight i think is going to be a problem uh it because they won't know if it's a knife or a sword both of those could kill your generation did you guys have lockers the oh yeah yeah yes you did d-bone d-bones you guys have um combination combination lockers turn right pass number turn left pass number turn back to right don't pass number d-bone i think he's sleeping you had those okay good i'm good. I'm happy those survived. Those are awesome. You like turn them five and then it just flips right on and you don't have to lock it really. You know what I'm talking about? If you like lock it and then you just turn it a little, like maybe five points past it. We used to put, if you put paper in there, it wouldn't lock.

Yeah. Yeah. My books came wrapped and then just got put in that thing. And then I opened that locker three times a year, maybe. I was not much of a... First day of school, though, it was cool to find where your locker is. Okay, who's near me? Oh, okay.

Everybody sucks over here. Sweet. Same M's as last year. Okay, sweet. There's my shit. Put it back in there. Thanks. I'll see you next year. Did you guys trade lockers? Trade? I don't think so. I like your locker. I'm going to trade it. Just use the football locker. You. I'll see you next year. Did you guys trade lockers? Trade? I don't think so. I like your locker. I'm going to trade it. You guys are getting bullied out of your lockers? That's what I just

heard. You go to the better locker. Yeah, so somebody. Someone got bullied, yeah. What are you trading? Combination. Combination. Combination. Combination. Football.

It's awesome. Week four of the NFL season wrapped up last night. Week five of college football wrapped up on Saturday, and it was fantastic. This upcoming weekend, college game day will be live in Berkeley, California, as the Miami Hurricanes travel to take on the Cal Bears. Now, the internet is having a good time with this. I believe more specifically the Cal Bear Twitter is having the best time with this, which has invited others to have a good time with this entire thing.

Can't wait to get out there. Cannot wait to see how it goes. 6 a.m. local start for that particular college game day episode. 7-15 local game kickoff, which is 10-15 Eastern time. This is the longest amount of time between game day and kickoff that I have ever experienced. Wow. If they're fans.

Cal, listen. I don't think anybody's ever thought, like, hey, you know what? Cal Berkeley, law football fans. I don't think anybody's ever thought that like, hey, you know what? Cal Berkeley, a lot of football fans. I don't think anybody's ever thought that. Maybe inside Cal Berkeley that is a thought. But, like, I'm from Pittsburgh. He's from Ohio. He's from South Florida.

He's from Massachusetts. He's from Connecticut, New York, Cal Berkeley. Tri-state area. It is Connecticut. Tri-state area. Maybe not Bruce Maybe not. Bruce's exact thought. But football times.

Like, no. Football, football, football. This is football place. This is football place. So now 6 a.m. start. Longest time until actual game kickoff. Boy, I'm excited to see how it goes. Yeah.

I am very excited. Because if Pittsburgh, me growing up, let's say college game day was coming, 6 a.m. local time start and then 7-15 game, probably not going to find me at that. And I love ball. I absolutely love ball. Live for it. I think the Cal Bears fans are going to show up,

which is a very cool thing, in a big way. And I will have massive respect for them. Can't wait to get to Berkeley. Long flight. Should be awesome. Hell yeah. College football is delivering. NFL is delivering.

That's A.J. Hawk. The Talks table's here at Boston Corner. Bruce Brown is in for Ty Schmidt out on assignment. One half of the hammer. Down. Cowboys AP tone. And nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. We alluded to it a couple times there during the conversation with Aaron Rodgers.

This Devontae Adams-Las Vegas Raiders situation is brewing. It is getting very, very loud. Devontae Adams on with Vegas Raiders situation is brewing. It is getting very, very loud. Devontae Adams on with Kay Adams on Up and Adams. He says his side about it, how he hasn't talked to the organization. Then there's some news breakers, local news breakers, NFL cover. They're like, hey, sources are telling us that Antonio Pierce liking that particular post that reported that Devontae Adams might have played his last snap for the Las Vegas Raiders is an indicator of how it is going behind the scenes

where the Raiders have potentially even reached out to other teams that might be interested in a veteran wide receiver. This whole song and dance potentially happened in the offseason, but they put it out, said, nah, Devontae's one of our pillars, Max Crosby's one of our pillars. Now all of a sudden it's becoming kind of a story, and you have a lot of teams around the league that are looking for another weapon, especially with how the offenses have performed this particular season debauch davante adams on

the move it feels and we're just catching up we're just catching up reading tweets because it's active this is an active happening right now as we're talking about it seems like there's a chance davante adams is not a raider going forward and you think about rashid rice we obviously just had aaron on who's talked glowingly about davanteae Adams. Devontae Adams has spoken glowingly about him. You think they would want another weapon? Of course they would. There's NFL offensive productions. Anybody that wants to go to Super Bowl, it's like, could be a great market for

Devontae and many other wide receivers. It's getting loud and Devontae is in the prime of his career. He's still a great, great receiver. Probably still a top five, top ten receiver he feels, but at that position, you need a quarterback that's going to get you the ball. You need a good system. Aaron talked a lot about systems.

And another thing he said about Devontae, like, he practices and he goes about his business the right way. That's the only thing I've heard of him throughout his entire career. And at this point, you know, the noise hopefully is just outside the building. Obviously, once you get the head coach liking a post or something, that makes it kind of everybody's news. Okay, everybody's kind of in it. Then Devontae has to answer questions about it.

Antonio Pierce has to answer questions about it. It is getting louder. Obviously, Shefty shot down the potential trade to the end division chiefs. But you would think it's a lot of teams out there who would want a guy like Devontae Adams. But he kind of went to bat for Antonio Pierce. You know, him, Max, all those big-time guys kind of went to bat for their coach. So I would be surprised if he just kind of switched it up at this point this soon.

It will be interesting, something to keep our eyes on, what, November 5th? Yeah, November 5th. So a long time. We'll see. The Instagram Matters conversation has been happening, I think, with younger media for a few years now. You know, probably four or five. As long as we've been operating, social media reaction by players in the offseason matters. And at the beginning of this entire thing, you know, all the, I don't want to say legacy media, but journalists, the legacy medias, would be like, we're worried about what an Instagram post is.

We're worried about them removing photos on their Facebook, my face. Okay, okay. Whatever that means. It's very real. It has been very real on numerous occasions. It is the player's way to indicate how they feel about a situation. If a player breaks up with a significant other, guess what else is getting deleted from that particular account?

Boom! Significant other never existed. So if a player is deciding, hey, yeah, I don't want to be seen in this uniform ever again, even though I'm under contract, that is a massive statement. Antonio Pierce liking that post is a big conversation, you know, because Antonio

Pierce, young enough, understands what the implications potentially are. Did he accidentally do it while he was just scrolling? Was he just scrolling? That was his real account, too. We know that was confirmed. That's a good question. Does he run his account? Yeah, there's so many things.

Was it an accident? And now there's full questions, so we'll wait until Antonio Pierce talks again. But it's like shit that happens on social media does matter. It matters a lot, and it has for some time now, even though people haven't necessarily wanted to admit it. And you talk about Devontae Adams. He mentioned Adam Thielen's name in there. Oh, yeah.

And he mentioned Deontay Johnson. It's like there's a lot of names potentially at that wide receiver position that are on the market. And Schefter's big take was you can't just drop them in. It's not like how it works. You know, you don't just boop and then have success. To another team? Yeah.

But it is. You know, there are some places we can draw off. I think you could drop Devontae in. You could drop Devontae in to most places and he'd be alright. Especially depending on what team. What are you talking about? I think he was talking Adam Thielen, Devontae. The whole thing. I think he was talking about the entire

wide receiver market. With where offenses are versus where I assume some people thought they were going to be and how they're performing, you can add another weapon. I think wide receiver trade, I thought they were going to be and how they're performing. You can add another weapon. I think wide receiver trade, I think there's going to be a few of them. I think there's going to be some real action at the trade deadline November 5th. I mean, I get what you're saying, but just going back a few years to the Rams.

Like Odell goes to L.A. and he has like eight touchdowns in five games or something absurd like that. It can't happen if they go to the right place. You're talking about like an Andy Reed and like the chiefs getting a guy, or, I mean, we saw last night, the lions go after somebody or the Packers, even like a Devante reunion with Matt LaFleur with a young wide receiver room. Like that would be pretty sweet.

It's like Steelers. A lot of fans. I think that they still need a number two wide receiver. They were allegedly in the Brandon I.U. combo. Anyone who was in that conversation, I would assume is still probably, especially the Commanders. If you get one, maybe not them, but the Commanders, if you

go someone with Terry McLaurin, something like that, Steelers, those were the teams. I didn't even think about the Commanders now all of a sudden being a good place to land. I don't know how much, if he has no trade or anything like that, but he would want to go to a quarterback if he were to move. Because, I mean, it is so, so frustrating as a receiver. I went to college and I had a choice, hey, receiver or DB.

It was pretty quick. All right, Dan Ilausi's gone, trying to figure out the – all right, you know what? I'm going to DB because I can control much more of my fate. I could just be running routes, throwing my hand up. Hey, Pops, you know, i'm gonna db because i can control much more of my fate i could just be running routes throwing my hand up hey pops you know post these clips of me i'm fucking you gotta worry about protection you gotta worry about a good game plan and then once defenses start to say all right hey because every week you know wednesday team meeting davante adams is going to be a game record so teams are going into games you know uh with a plan to take him away so you got to have a coach and a quarterback that's smart enough

to still get you open. So it has to be so frustrating for him going from a guy like Aaron Rodgers in that system and always having an option to get open. All right, they're going to be rolling up to you, just sit in that window. I'm going to find you and then go into a situation where, hey, Derek Carr may be the guy. Now he's out and they're trying to figure it out. So it's tough.

I know, and a lot of people will say, well, he chose to do that. That was kind of like one of the conversations was like, allegedly, Devontae never said this. We're just saying people were saying he wanted to prove it's not just everybody gives Aaron the credit of it. It's like, I want to do this. And I think a lot of people were, he got paid at the time. So much money for the wide receiver position.

100% earned, deserved. You get it, but a lot of people said maybe it'll be different whenever, depending on who your quarterback is. I think then Derek ends up leaving. Has a great season. Then you get a quarterback which I assume he didn't think he was going to end up in because once again he's college teammates with the guy.

He gets pushed out. He gets pushed out the door seemingly in the middle. Then Devontae's like, what the hell? I didn't know I was signing up for this. It's prime too. Still in his prime. So good at football. Benched. And then Devontae's like, what the hell? I didn't know I was signing up for this, though. You know, it's – It's prime, too. Still in its prime. So good at football.

Three years in a row. And they had Jimmy G last year. It wasn't even just like, hey, I'm going to the Raiders because me and Derek Carr, good relationship, Raiders fan. I'll go there and play with him again. We played in college. It'll be awesome. They push him out, bring in Jimmy G.

He plays with Jimmy G. They push him out. And now he's with Gardner. Like, it would make sense if he was like, you know what? Actually, I do want to get him. And Gardner's a dog. We all understand that. We are very appreciative for Gardner Minshew for what he did for the Indianapolis Colts last year.

Adam Thielen, though, got a big payday from the Carolina Panthers, right? That was under a different regime. Deontay Johnson, whatever ends up happening down there in Carolina, I guess. He's on his last year because he got traded this offseason from the Steelers. Yeah, but he's got one year left. Are they going to pay him long term? Who knows? Maybe.

I don't know. So he's available. Then there's, who else did he say? He said Nuke Hopkins, potentially available. And he's going to get, you know, he's de-hopped. So if he gets on a team that has like two other weapons, he's going to be able to make plays for me. Still looked unbelievable last night.

Had a couple over the middle. I mean, he's so good. And his hands, remember, are the size. And you think about teams like the Jags, like the Jags, if they continue to lose, like you would assume maybe they would think about Christian Kirk being moved because especially with how good the rookie Brian Thomas Jr. has been, it's like, okay, well, we could maybe move on from Christian Kirk, too, if that saves a bunch of money.

Is this going to be an electrifying trade deadline? Maybe. It'd be sick. Today's heating up. Today is heating up the conversation with Devontae, but there's obviously a lot of other opportunities. Let's go to Rasheed Rice's story. AJ, so there was a tweet out by Adam Schefter yesterday

that was basically like everyone's more tests we're gonna run some more tests we're not gonna know the full extent of the injuries until probably next week after further testing of Rasheed Rice's knee today there remains uncertainty over the extent of his injury per sources after consulting with team doctors and receiving second opinions more tests are required to determine the full extent of Rice's injury in his recovery timeline. No answers are expected until next week.

So when I read that just on the internet when it showed up, I was like, okay, so there's going to be more injuries than just ACL to the extent of his injuries. Just because of how nasty it looked. How bad it looked. And then Schefter has followed up upon that both on his podcast and I think on

maybe his show, he was doing a radio show I think, where he said like, this is good news he thinks, where it's like they think that it wasn't as bad as it looked, as bad as Andy Reid thought it was, as bad as he thought it was, as bad as the people that were carting him off it as it is. So they're actually getting more testing to make sure like, wait

a second, it's not as bad as we thought? That's kind of the way Schefter is kind of angling it, ain't that right, Tony? Yeah, on Schefter's podcast, he was basically saying, normally when these NFL ACL injuries happen, they happen on Sunday, Monday morning, boom, confirmed, he's out, ACL. Now, in this situation where it wasn't confirmed on Monday, now Tuesday or whatever, and he's getting many, many more opinions,

he doesn't think it's cut and dry like, hey, he's got a torn ACL or whatever. This is good news. They're looking to see if it's something that he can possibly return from this season. Definitely hurt. Yes, definitely hurt. Definitely hurt. Payne, obviously, they ruled him out this week and they'll get the test back. But the conversation is like, he might be able to return.

He might be able to return this year is what the hope is, I guess, from these tests, AJ. I took that from Shefty's initial tweet. I took it as a good thing for Rasheed because I feel like the only reason you continue to do tests and you find more doctors to look at or whatever is because there's a chance you could play. Like if his ACL was torn, his ACL was torn. It's just like, okay, what doctor's going to do my surgery?

How are we doing moving forward for this? I feel like there's a chance he comes back in place. I don't know when that is, but there's hope this season, I think, from what we're hearing. I was just looking at it so negatively, I think, you know, the way Foles – It was nasty. It was gross. It was gross.

And then Andy Reid goes, not good. Yeah, true. I don't love all these interviews. I'm going to say it. I agree. A little over-exposed. As somebody that is uh you know in the content world and we like access and hard not everything like that i do forcing these dudes

who are playing and coaching that looks bad like that looks bad it's a hyper extension of a knee as well as like a full pivot and on turf it's not good but just like moments before getting introduced i think von miller was doing I think Von Miller was doing an interview, and then literally his name was getting called to go get introduced. It's like that's a big moment. Like that's for him mentally trying to get into like a, I don't want to say gladiator mentality, and not everybody is like that. But it's like right before the game, I think Jared Goff, he got interviewed.

I mean, Kyle Hamilton on Sunday night right before the build. Answers are this long. You're getting nothing. You're going to get nothing out of those. I think we're going to get nothing out of those forever and ever, amen, with players before the game. Because, like, everybody, I mean, I feel like I'm one of the most casual people that have maybe ever played

in the NFL. Like, very chill, would like to lay low. Like, all good on sideline. Vibes high whenever i figured it out it's like right before a game though there's like uh okay here we go like let's go like this is what you do everything for and i think they made a rule that they have to do these it's in the contract yeah it's like it's like you have to do it and i don't know if it's coaches i think you go talk to coaches have had to do this before yeah the players i don't think you're ever going to get

shit from them legitimately and it's another thing this before. The players, I don't think you're ever going to get shit from them. Legitimately. And it's another thing that players have to worry about. I can't say anything stupid. Can't give away game plan. Can't bury anybody else. It's a lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose for the player. You know what I mean, AJ?

Do you feel the same way? I've been watching them. I think they're all terrible. And I'm like, why? I knew it was in the contract. It was a big deal. But I'm like, there's no winning on the receiving side of the interview which means the person doing the interview, there's no

that's not a, I don't know. It's really hard for that person as well. It's really hard for the person conducting the interview too, knowing like, hey, this is like, I got, what, 20 seconds right before this gigantic moment for these people. Yeah, like players are weird. I thought when I initially heard it, like okay, yeah, coaches, of course, put that in the contract

make them do interviews going into halftime or after halftime, but for players, I never thought that was involved, so it is a bit weird. Maybe it'll get better as time goes and guys get more used to it. I don't think so. I assume SID people, PR people, are telling players very late about that, too, because they don't want another thing to think

about. We don't need another thing for you to think about on game day. Minutes before this game's about to start, okay? You're going to go on national television in front of 20 thing for you to think about on game day. Minutes before this game is about to start, you're going to go on national television in front of 20 million people. Don't say anything. But say stuff. Something. Make sure you're very good and you represent the team well.

Represent your own brand. They're telling them that. Also, people from the other team are watching this, so don't give away shit. Don't give away I mean, it's right i don't know you're the whole like you're the whole different like you said everybody's different everybody goes about you know their business differently getting prepared for a game but you are in a completely different mindset where you're going into a game and even coming out of the game

that's why we get that what 15 minute cool off period before the media can come in the locker room so i i hate it i know access is everything and content and fans probably want to see it and get that type of access. Hey, what is the mindset of a – the one good one I saw was TJ White, JJ White, and that's because he's talking to his brother. But even when he was having a conversation with JJ, he was like, man, I'm trying to get in the mind frame right now. He's, you know, sending something for his kid.

He was like, yeah, thank you for trying to get me out of my mind frame. So to your point, like with the players, what they're preparing for, and like you said, some people, oh, this is not that like you do have to get a different mindset i think to play like a full speed football game yeah there's only so many jobs yeah there's only so many jobs and then also they all matter to so many injuries that can happen you know and there's so much um like on the line every single every single play so when that thing kicks off you know like the national anthem is a big deal because that is like literally you see everybody's either praying or it's like their last it's like yeah we're about to go late on the line punters kick was obviously

different obviously different we don't do our job right we're fired though we understand that but everybody else it's like we're about to go run full speed into other people like that is so there's a mentality you have to get to for that particular i don't love you said fans love the action there i guess the tj jj one became a moment and was that right before the game no i don't think it was maybe going warm up yeah it was like what right before the game i don't think i've seen one and i'm predicting, not that I'm a good prognosticator or anything like that. I'm predicting there's not going to be a single good one that comes from that at all. The Goff one was

pointless, to your point. He didn't say a single word. The only thing I got of it was like, all right, Jared Goff's locked in. I like that. Bingo. That's the only thing you can say. I guess you could find out if somebody's a little nervous. Maybe. Like the kid that kicked at Alabama for the kicking is easy segment, his roll tide was the worst.

Yes, terribly. He was scared to death. And me and Drewski literally looked at each other and said, no, no shot. This kid is scared to death right now. Second one, pretty good kick. But his roll tide was just like he was losing his, you know, he's a little flustered. Could you imagine a player goes on there and does that?

Sounds nervous. And then goes and just gets fucking whammed on immediately afterwards. Oh, my. Oh, my. That could happen. We need Will Levis to do one of these interviews. Yes, we do. Yes.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't think they're going to be interviewing him. After the game, actually, did you see the little scene? Because they were setting it up to interview Mason. And we'll love this. I mean, look, I was just, as a spectator, kind of thinking. Oh, you're kind of

putting your own thoughts into this. Just putting my own thoughts into it, but he did take a look over like, oh, they haven't done that with me yet. And then left. Because they have one. Because they have one. Yeah, that's you talking shit. That's you talking shit. It is me talking shit, but also the proof's in the pudding. It's just what I saw.

It was a little awkward scene of him floating around after talking to Snoop Huntley. Aaron might be, if they were to interview Aaron right before, he might have enough. But even he'd be pretty good in those games. I mean, you see, the reason why he looks so depressed on that sideline when things aren't going well is because how fucking invested he is in football. You're talking people used to make fun of him for it, I guess, and hold it against him. He's like, no family, no kids. Like, hey, I'm fucking, I'm playing football.

Like, that is, people don't ever talk about that with that dude's, like, commitment. He's chin strapped off immediately after, wants to take hits, knees sore, you know, old school dude. And then when you think about it, like there's a lot of guys who delay having kids until after their playing career is over because they hear Hall of Fame speeches and there's no way you can be around as much as you should be as a dad and also be a great football player. It's like Aaron Rodgers, and you know him a lot better than me,

it is that whole thing that's been held. Look at this guy. He's not married. He doesn't have any kids. It's like, what do you think he's – well, he's focused on ayahuasca. Okay, that's three days. All right, let's do every other hour of his existence. What is he – oh, he's figuring out how to read your defense better

than everybody else and throw a football better than everybody else in history. And then he's worried and focused on the team winning. And then when they lose, he's listening to what everybody's saying. And then he's just, he's getting these chips out, you see? And then he's focused on stacking those things. And then he's recovering from an Achilles faster than anybody in history. And then he's coming out with a big fuck you. That's why I think this upcoming week in London,

your question was a good one about last international game potentially. Like obviously he appreciates football and he appreciates the NFL and the sport and growing the game and like that. Guys don't want to put on a performance out there. Especially after what happened this past week against Denver. He called it an anomaly, AJ. He called it an anomaly over there for their performance. What a weird – so I went to a Jets game last year that he obviously

was not playing in December. I believe they played the Falcons and it was the exact same situation. Cold, drizzly rain. You know, definitely not a packed barn by any means. Every seat was not filled due to the brutal weather. And the game turned out pretty much like the one the other day. Like, it felt like that. It was a weird – it was just a weird vibe, weird atmosphere.

And I think that's what that whole day felt like just now. little sleepy hollow feel we've been a part a couple of those uh over at metlife i think we had a day game over there where it was miserable yep i think it was it was gloom doom rain jersey just coming yeah basically that's kind of how it goes shithole fast what's that metlife turns into a shithole fast the weather or everything about it everything about what about whenever you take an rv and you just ram it right into an overhead? Doesn't help. Overhead. Try to take it down.

Thing's still standing over there. I like that he's saying, though, we need to turn that into our advantage. You know, like the shitty, gloomy day where other teams are still tired. Like, man, it's kind of hard to get up for this. It's kind of a shitty day. Bring your own juice, guys. You got to bring your own juice. You don't want to hear that.

You don't want to hear that. No, but he's saying we need to make this an advantage as opposed to like. Yeah. It's 11 a.m. start for Denver, too. Tall. Coming from Mountain. Yeah, you got to embrace it. Gotham football.

That's right. Yeah. Did you see that Sleepy Hollow High School the other week? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Headless Horseman comes out and leads the team. Headless Horseman on a horse, actually, you know? Yeah.

Much faster than players. So a player's way behind. The horse is kind of the show. The horse had to go sideways a couple times. Yeah. The horse had to go, whoa! A little scared of the track, it seemed like. You didn't see it?

No. I didn't see it. You were taking somebody out on the entrance. That was awesome. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.'t see it. Taking somebody out on the entrance. That was awesome. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Man. Like ricochet out there.

Yeah. I was about to say, whenever they get rolling, too, there's a lot of momentum. A lot of power. Guys in full pads. Poof. What the fuck was that? What was that? Laid out.

I'm so sorry. I was just in the middle of my 14th whoop-de-doo. I had to sign that kid. Put that kid in pads. Yeah, here's the headless horseman. Okay. Coming out. Now, it's very bright outside.

It doesn't have the same effect. Yeah. Is it a JV game? The place is jam-packed. She gets some smoke on this thing, too, you know, like underneath there. But that horse wanted to run. That horse wanted to let it ride. Had to wait, and then all of a sudden, headless horseman says,

fuck it, I'm going. And it ended up being about 50, 60 yards ahead of the team, but I want to let you know, set to wait, and then all of a sudden Heather Sources says, fuck it, I'm going. And it ended up being about 50, 60 yards ahead of the team, but I want to let you know, set the tone that this is what we're about here at Sleepy Hollow. Nobody's there. Nobody. Beautiful day. Where is it? I wonder where it is. Too beautiful. I did not see where it was. Is that a high

school game? Those are picture class. I'm saying northeast, right? Sleepy Hollow? Yeah. Gotta be. I'm thinking either Pennsylvania or like Connecticut. Where do we go up there? We were up there I was thinking either Pennsylvania or like Connecticut. Where do we go up there? We were up there was it Ty's wedding? Yeah, Newport, Rhode Island. We came in, wife and I, when we were driving

in over the bridge. It was like gloomy. Yeah, fog. Oh yeah. Dude, I felt I was in fucking, I actually thought of Sleepy Hollow. Oh yeah. I am in the middle of this movie. New York. There it is. Terry Time. Doe Horseman. Horseman Pride. They got no movie. New York. Terry Time. Go Horseman. Horseman Pride. They got no fans.

That was the away side. That's why the horse ran. It's a spooky place. Terry Time. Bad team. They only show up for night games. Yeah, that would make sense. Why were they playing in the middle of the day like that?

You guys don't do high school football at night up there in the northeast? In New York? A lot of places don't have lights. You guys hate ball, dude. Why do we even talk about it? Well, it's because it's, you know, Tarrytown. It's a small town, but populated heavily because it's near the city. So, you know, you can't put up lights without it blinding the whole neighborhood.

Do people pay taxes over there? No, that's not real. The town can't pay for some lights over there? No, it's going to the game receiver. That's bullshit. There's a big fight in my dad's big fight. You guys don't like ball over there? We don't like ball?

You know, it costs a lot of money. New York especially. The high school football varies in significance. I know. I got pitched lights on Youth Soccer Field and Plum up at Larry Mills Park. Like, toss around the idea

of getting lights up there because that's where youth soccer plays. And I think the junior high plays there. And then high school plays at the stadium. And thought it was cool

with the we're all Mustangs here fund. We started chatting. I'm like, would have been cool for me, you know, just me specifically, if I could have had a couple night games as a kid.

Yeah, for sure. That gets you, like, in a moment or two, then whenever you get to high school and it's like a big – it's like – I think it's good. I looked up the pricing. Boy. Yeah, $4 million. Those lights are pricy. Whoa.

Those things are pricy. Shit is a lot of money. It is a lot of money. I had no idea. So I don't want to mock too much. But with that being said, you would hope that the town would at least love ball enough to put some lights on. You could also wheel lights in. I know in a couple of the places we played, they didn't have lights.

But they would, for like big games, they would bring lights in for the field. Tall ones? I mean, they weren't that tall. Ohio State didn't have them until like 10 years, 10, 15 years ago. They didn't have permanent lights. They'd bring them in for night games same with michigan state doesn't it feel like the light game now though vastly different than it was 10 years ago how about down in alabama they fucking just turn those lights on we played against we played against cincinnati on like a

thursday night game i think and lights went out halftime so obviously delay second half as they're warming up one half of them heated up faster than the other half. And the other half was, like, slowly coming back. I think we played a part of the game with one of the lights and one of them not. So, obviously, it was. But then they inevitably got back. Remember when you were calling Thursday night football, East Carolina, that happened.

It delayed the game for, like, 30, 45 minutes. Oh, yeah, I do. That's a good. When the lights. I remember. I started singing. And then there was a dude on That's a good, when the lights. I remember I started singing, and then there was a dude on that particular field that night because the fans were all, the game was being delayed,

doing whoop-de-whoop. Oh, yeah, they had talent out there. They had like an Olympian flipper on the field, and I was trying to talk to the truck. I don't even know if that was possible with the way those games were set up. I'm like, hey, there's a fucking, can we get a camera? Like, if we're going to, there's a fucking... Can we get a camera?

There is a dude down there. He did like... I think he did like 30 straight flips in front of... because the crowd was just watching. And then I think, whoa! Place went crazy. I'm like, that's a show right now. But I think it was a 25-minute... I think it was a 25-minute re-walk. It was a long time. And now these things... Super Bowl.

Yeah. Epinol. Niners. Niners Ravens. Beyonce. Blew the power. And now these things. Super Bowl. Yeah. Epinoe. Niners. Niners Ravens. Yeah. Beyonce. Yeah. Blew the power. And then had to wait for them to warm up.

Now it's not like that anymore? I don't know. Some places. I think a majority they do have to wait. Like, I think the light show, that's like a scheduled thing for Bama versus like flipping the switch. No. No, I know.

But I'm just saying, like, the fact that they can go on and off like that. It is bananas. They have every touchdown, though. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, it's a show. It's a light show for sure. But those lights didn't used to be able to just turn off. Yeah, the old ones used to be halogens or whatever they're called.

It's LED, right? It's a warm-up and a cool-down period. The new ones are just LED. They had to pay so much money. So much, yeah. a cool down period. The new one's just LED. They had to make so much money. So much, yeah. Like Alabama, Kirk Herbstreit posted a video of

maybe third quarter or kickoff, I forget what it was, but the whole place, the lights were going on and off down in Alabama. Songs were playing. There were spots. It might have been Dixieland Delight and Kalen DeBoer said, when do we do that? I don't know when we do that. I think I might have missed it tonight because they do, I guess it's a moving

time, obviously, depending upon who has the ball and everything like that. With the Dixieland Del tonight because they do, I guess it's a moving time obviously depending upon who has the ball and everything like that. When they need it. With the Dixieland Delight. But like, Kirk was like, every stadium that operates

in professional sports should come check out what they're doing at this place because just every single second it is energy. And it's like, as opposed to the,

we talk about like Cedar Point roller coasters where people ride the dons, you know, and then there's the ups with this show. It's like Alabama was. I don't know how much money they spent on all this shit. I have no idea.

They've had to invest greatly in it, and it helps. It absolutely helps. Does Penn State do anything for their light show? I would assume. Sorry, South Carolina. South Carolina definitely does. Yeah, when they do Sandstorm. They do.

Yeah, here's Kirk Herbstreet's video, I do assume. Sorry, South Carolina. South Carolina definitely does. Yeah, when they do Sandstorm at night. They do. Yeah, here's the... That's pretty good. Here's Kirk Herbstreet's video, I do believe. Oh, this is an online video from YouTube, I guess. Okay. Same exact post that Herbstreet had, though. So it might have been ripped from Herbstreet, to be clear. Happy's not using the bold letters on X anymore.

Thank God. That needed to stop. Elon took that away, I read. Was that real? Yeah. Elon felt the same way that we felt yeah with all these people that are on Twitter using the bold thing oh we're gonna stick out too many you're doing it no nobody's how am I supposed to know who's important if it's not bold letters okay I'm not getting into it those bold letters though everybody thought they cracked

the code everybody thought they had it It did stink didn't it Isn't it crazy like the things that people would assume would be good It's like nah Nah we're not about it The internet is very much a we're not about it place And that's easy come easy go That is easy come easy go Kaboli was doing it well with like the title

Boom Like there is a place for it but if you're just going every fucking tweet, I'm going to bold the shit out of this thing. We don't like it. Why? Won't work. I'm sure there's people that did like it, though, so we're not speaking for everybody.

We're just talking about for every human that I know that lives on X pretty much. We were sick of it pretty quick. Yeah. Why is this asshole doing it? And then why is this? Everybody has the capability just to be bold. Is that the new font of X? I don't understand what's going on.

I don't even know how to do it. Me neither. I thought you had to do it on your computer. Yeah. That's what it is? I think it's desktop. I'm not even getting into it. It was desktop only at first, but then an update was released a couple days ago that enabled it on mobile.

That's why everyone started doing it. I don't love the view post interactions to get to how many quote tweets tweets got. Quote tweets are the most important thing on X. Shouldn't be harder to get to that. I think that was a bad update personally. The bold thing, I think that, I'm happy that's going away. I'm happy that's going away.

You still block people. I like blocking people. Me too. For now. I love blocking people. Yeah, they're taking that away. They're taking it away. Come on, Eli. Oh, if somebody come up to me and be like, can you unblock me? I'm like, I don't know if you know me. I on, Eli. Oh, if somebody come up to me and be like, can you unblock me? I'm like, I don't know if you know me, I'm pretty stubborn. You deserve to. You did something. I didn't just block you for no reason.

Yeah, exactly. I didn't just go, hey, you know what? Fuck it. I'm gonna block this guy. I said something I thought was funny. I'm like, yeah, well, I didn't think it was. All right. See you later.

Sorry about it. I have unblocked a few people, though, in my older age. All right. Sure. These people seem to be very kind. But boy, I'm still blocking Shadur. I'm not the forgiving type. Well said. I hold on to grudges. Me too, brother.

Me too, brother. Hey, that Colorado team, real deal. I like them. I like them. I mean, I like them coming in. Obviously, there's a lot of questions, especially in the trenches you know offensive defensive line but they they've you know look like they figured out long season still a lot of games left but what four and one now i don't know what their win total was coming into the season but um five and a half i think every i feel like every

game of theirs has been nationally televised so everybody's gonna be watching either watching because they like them or or hate watching uh you're gonna be on one side of the fence or the other with uh coachimer, how he goes about his business. But Travis Hunter is unbelievable. My opinion should be the frontrunner for the Heisman and number one pick right now with how he's playing on both sides of the ball. And then obviously

Shadur is great at quarterback. But yeah, I like what I've seen in Colorado so far this year. I think it's a fascinating conversation and Travis Hunter is unbelievable. So good at football. It's fun to watch. It's a lot of fun to watch. If he goes to any other school, I guess not any other school, there's probably numerous places in him and

Heisman Post. Could that be prophetic? We shall see. Remember Desmond Howard has that moment where he hits one and numerous other people, but if Travis Hunter goes to one of these massive programs, I assume there's going to be a conversation early about how,

if you want to be great, you've got to pick one of these to focus on full time. And Prime goes, I played professional baseball. I played professional football. I played all three sides of the ball. You can pull it off. Not everybody can. People can pull it off. And he has gone to battle for him, seemingly, in this entire thing.

And now it's to a point where everybody in the country wants to watch him play football on both sides. It is – the Travis Hunter brand is awesome. It is an awesome thing. It's unbelievable. I got a chance to do it without – to your point, Randy Edsel, my head coach in college, he made me choose. And I would ask him every year, hey, can I play some offense this year? Can I play some offense? And finally he was like, you know, senior year, came back, and he let me choose and i would ask him every year hey can i play some offense this year can i play some offense and uh finally he was like you know senior year came back and

let me play some offense but i had like 15 20 plays maybe depending on the opponent like i can't imagine going going through that uh every week i know he doesn't practice a bunch which is smart but uh dion as he said in the last interview like i'm glad he chose you know me and us to come play for because if he hadn't, think about all the plays you wouldn't have seen from Travis Hunter either offense or defense for him to be able to do it. Him sitting down with Seawood, obviously another two-way player,

Champ Bailey, Aqib Tlaib. There's been a few, but for him to do it full-time, it's different. I understand a lot of people saying there's no way he can do this on the next level. Why not? Full-time, but I mean, it's doing it. Why not? Full time. But, I mean, this dude. Maybe not for 15 years.

Maybe not. But I would assume if he comes in his full time on, let's say, defense, like I would have a package from a coach to have Travis Hunter on the field and vice versa. If he's playing offense and maybe third down or red area or something, I throw him in there at corner. But he is just a phenomenal athlete, unbelievable player. But what he's doing physically to be able to run full speed and play how he does mentally and physically every game is unbelievable.

Yeah, he's like a football junkie too. You know, he has to be. To be as smart – like that thing, that zone coverage comes off his person, drops him to the flat. Like that is – that's a high level – that's a high level. High effort too. Yeah, high effort, high level DB play. And then him hitting the guy at the goal line to win it in overtime two weeks ago ago and then his one-handed touchdown I mean it's just like it's a freak

the guy's football IQ is incredible to be able to do both sides I think there are you know there's like some people on the internet that'll find some plays where maybe he's taking off or whatever it's like guys playing 90 to 100 plays everyone has every single there's going to be times where he knows the ball is going the other way. Once again, football IQ. Yeah. Let me steal some breath here, and then let's keep it moving. It's like, I love Travis Hunter, but we all know, modern-day NFL, first pick of the draft is going to be a quarterback. Oh, yeah.

I don't know. Let's say the Patriots on the clock, first pick of the draft. Ooh, already got their quarterback. Jags. But you know what else that means? That means some other team that doesn't have a quarterback is looking to trade to get there, to get a quarterback. Jags. But you know what else that means? That means some other team that doesn't have a quarterback is looking to trade to get there, to get a quarterback. Is it a guy in this draft who you feel like is a Caleb Williams

or a Trevor Lawrence when he was coming out, Andrew Luck? Is it a guy who is like, hey, this is a generational for sure guy? Jalen Milrow obviously going to be up for the conversation. Shador is going to be in that conversation. I assume Cam Ward has earned himself some of that conversation, depending upon how the rest of the year Carson Beck people are talking about. Quinn is the most regarded as the highest draft pick quarterback coming up. Also, but if you're the Patriots, too, if it's someone going from, like, one to three,

and you're like, okay, well, we can probably still go back to three and take him, then maybe he's still getting. I would take it. Just want to let everybody know, I think Travis Hunter should go number one overall. But the reality is of the business, that number one overall pick is normally reserved for a quarterback, just like that Heisman is normally reserved for a quarterback,

just like the NFL MVP is normally reserved for a quarterback in recent football history. That's just kind of how it all goes. Jenty up there, 847 yards in four weeks. Twelve touchdowns or something. I forget how many touchdowns he has in three and a half weeks or whatever the case because he only played first half of one of the games.

Him up there being as high as he is, that's awesome news for the skill positions. It's like, maybe this is the year Travis Hunter debunks it all because he's playing every snap of every game. I want him to kick one. He needs to kick one. He needs to kick an extra point. He needs to punt one and he needs to kick

an extra point at some point this year. Just so it can be like, and throw one. If we can have him throw a touchdown. Tusha Durr. They'll do that. Do the Amun-Ra play. Need to have him throw one. Need to have him kick an extra point. Need to have him punt one and then just be like,

this guy is football. I can do it all. What are you even needing at all? Travis, we're lucky to watch it. We're also lucky that every single week we get to get smarter. That's right. We have a man who is one of the smartest football players, high football IQ players in the history of the NFL.

Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Everything DB. Good D, bad D. Yes, sir. Let's get to it. Week four. What was Connor all worried about as we dive into the film here? Shout out to NFL Plus Premiums, NFL Pro on the footage.

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Video games? Not easy enough for me to run. I did the NCAA 2K college football thing. I had to go through 14 Excel spreadsheets. I had to make I had to go right, go down,. A lot. I had to make, I had to go right, go down,

select, slide, boom, bang, pow, push it. It's like, I'm not fucking doing this.

I'm not, I don't have enough time in my life to figure out how to even get to the game. Then once I get to the game, I don't know what any of these buttons are doing. I'm out of it. So I'm way behind. I feel the same way about all this like,

tech shit. There's like a lot of things that sound in theory great, but the inevitable to get to it's just not convenient at all. And also like there's other ways to get this information, basically. They have made it dummy proof. Yes. And it is information I don't think you can get anywhere else

unless you have a stats person literally in your world. It is – hey, NFL, you did good with this one. Oh, yeah. A lot of – building a lot smarter football fans. But AP Tone made a comment earlier this year on X. He said, hey, this guy may be the best back seven defender in the NFL. I think he's the best defensive player in the NFL. As soon as Con Man saw the play, he knew it would be on everything DB.

First play, Fred Warner, linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers. You're showing right now, third and five, they're showing a double mug look. So you look right now as a quarterback, if you're Jacoby, you're thinking probably some type of press man, middle of the field safety, single high, probably going to have one-on-one outside.

We're going to empty. All right, let me get to a quick play that's going to get me a first down. Post snap, Fred Warner will drop. You got it? All right. Yeah me get to a quick play. That's going to get me a first down. Post snap. Fred Warner will drop. You got it? All right. Yeah, I got you. Boom. Just watch 54.

And Aaron, when we had Aaron on, he talked about some plays, like, after week one, like, hey, against anybody else, these would have been 18, 25-yard gainers. Passes off. Just watch his overall awareness, his drop, his vision on the quarterback, understanding of route concept. Passed the first cross off. We saw this a couple weeks ago with Tyron Matthews.

It was a little different because he was the robber. Had some vision in front of him. Maybe he takes it. Nope, I'm not going to go there. I'm actually going to drop back, get right in that window to the dig. Then gets up. Fell flat on his back. Took a nice bump.

Gets up near sideline, up the sideline, back tight. Even if you set your back high and tight like that, you know you're getting tired, but got it all the way to the end zone. Just an unbelievable play from 5'4", pre-snap and post-snap. He's a phenomenal – he actually lets two people pass him. He lets the first kind of thing go by him, and then he picks up the second post. Great zone eyes, great zone discipline, you know, staying on that quarterback. And the reason you have those, especially on third and five,

like a lot of young linebackers, young DBs, you're going to bite that cheese. You're going to, hey, I don't want to give up this first down. But him, he lets it pass. And he also sees his guy on it as well, stays in that window, knowing like most dig routes, the quarterback's going to complete them about two yards outside of that hash. I mean, just an unbelievable play from pre-snap to post-snap. Wow. I mean, do you want play from pre-snap to post-snap. Wow.

I mean, do you want to go back to right before he throws it just to see how many people are open? Let's see. There's one open. I mean, there's two open. The guy that I called about him just letting by, why the ask? Both of them. I mean, Jay and Pote, there's no one fucking in front of him.

Jesus Christ. Like, look how much. Throw it to the 50 right there. Wow. And then, yeah, Pop Douglas, but you can argue the safety's looking at him. Like, you throw the ball. Safety's breaking on that. And once again, defenses.

That's exactly why people are pissed about it. Exactly why people are pissed about it. Now, a lot of times, you know, Monday morning quarterback. Yeah, it's easy from the sky. It's great from the fucking sky, but from the quarterback's perspective, and Jacoby, I'm sure he's watching this tape and saying some of the same things, but when they're looking as a defense, like, we're moving with the quarterback's eyes, and we know, okay, with that D-line that Sanford has,

he's not going to have all day back there. So you're going to be able to pause the screen and look here and say, hey, this guy is wide open on the right side. He has three guys open to the right side of the field, but the quarterbacks are staring or looking left side. There's a reason they're wide open because everybody knows they're going left. Yep, we're breaking. We're moving on intention.

We're dropping on intentions in zone coverage. It's all about what the quarterback is doing. So as soon as he takes his snap, Jacoby's looked down the middle. Now he's his eyes. So his eyes are telling all those underneath defenders, let me start dropping and peeking this way. You called the best

defensive player in the NFL, right? So you just should avoid that guy in general. So we can say Monday morning quarterback. Yeah, but look at him squat. He's hiding there. It's hard to avoid a guy. Absolutely. He's hiding in there. I mean, it's probably like Will Levis. He didn't fucking see him.

Yeah, it's hard to see Fred Warner. He's the best player in the NFL. I mean, he got these guys right here. Come on, man. Look at this. We're in the sky. Look where Polk is. Look where Polk is.

Don't you think Jacoby probably thought Devondre Campbell was going to drop this crosser and that Fred might pick him up and then send him over to the other guy, like the other zone defender. But Fred does a good job here. What's that right there? When he takes a step up right there, I think Jacoby might have thought, hey, he's going to run with this crosser. No, Fred just almost baited him into that.

That's an unbelievable play from Fred. Yeah, you're saying it's Jacoby. It's actually just Fred. I think it's a great play. Hold on. To AJ's point. We can both be right. Fred sells that he's covering this guy hard. Hard. Look at him.

He takes a step. And then most backers are going to jump down on that in 85. Most backers are like, oh, I've got to jump on 85 and pull. And he's going to take you out of that dig window, wherever it's coming behind you. So Jacoby sees that and he thinks he's gone. Right? That's what he thinks he's gone, right? That's what he thinks? Or he hopes.

And then Fred's not gone. It's like third and five, we got him. We got him with the low one. Nope. And I know Conway just thinks, hey, Jacoby, just flip your fucking hips. That's not what I think. Very difficult. I don't know.

I'm not saying that. He's just going to let it right over his head. The safety won't break, you know. But. No, he's a Sanford quarterback. I'm not saying that. Tavares Moore, he's just going to let it right over his head. The safety won't break, you know. But you're saying he's a Sanford quarterback here. I mean. I'm wrong. You guys are right. I agree. It's just a tough scene.

But anytime that footage makes it out there, there is a young Princeton waiting. Money morning quarterback. Money morning quarterback. That is the pressure you have as a quarterback, though, when there is another guy behind you waiting. I think that has a little something to do. I think Sam Darnold is very, very good. But once J.J. McCarthy got hurt, you don't have that kind of –

it's a little more freedom when you're playing at any position, but especially that quarterback position. But no excuses, no explanations. This is big boy football. You've got to figure out how to make plays. Look at this. Backed up. Rams backed up as DBs, as defenses.

This is – you get a little more thirsty, a little more hungry when quarterbacks are backed up. Rams backed up as DBs, as defenses. This is, you know, get a little more thirsty, a little more hungry when quarterbacks are backed up. Torrey Taylor did a pretty good job this game, right? Yeah, yeah. 35-yard punt here to pin them inside their 10 with 103 left in the fourth quarter. Obviously massive. He also had a 66 yard. So got to drive the length of the field.

Now, Brisker did a great job, a great instinctive player for the Chicago Bears. Cover three. Now, I always did a great job, a great instinctive player for the Chicago Bears. Cover three. Now, I always talk about as underneath zone defenders playing routes high to low, depending on the defense and how you coach. Sometimes in zone, your coach can talk to get the spots. Sometimes you relate to the actual routes. I think this is more so of a spot drop. Some defensive coordinators, Chuck used to call it, hey, it's a high school cover three, and he does a great job getting a little readout on the receiver, expanding, keeping vision on the quarterback once again, breaking on intentions.

You're playing it high to low, so you got one behind you. You got one in front of you. You don't bite up on that short one and give that deep one. Great job playing the ball. And picking off Matty Stafford. They also want to enhance the face there. Oh, yeah, they did for sure. Jeez.

Stafford got it. So, I mean, Stafford, like, you know, I mean, we'll look. Come and see it from the back angle. Yeah, exactly. I don't think we have the back angle. Oh, no back angle? No, we can't. Hey, but great job.

Cover three. Rotate down from a split safety look. Now it's going middle close, which is single high. Curl flat window. Quarterback should see him. Guy right in his face. I mean, what's going on there? You guys are cheating or what?

No. Bam. Jeez. Whoa. Jeez Louise. That's the way we play the game. Yeah, I don't know how that didn't get called. Against Matt Stafford, too.

One minute left. One minute left. That's game we play the game. Yeah, I don't know how that didn't get called. Against Matt Stafford, too. That's a one-minute left. That's game, baby. Hey, we're not laughing because it's good. We're just saying, boy, I can't believe that didn't get called. That's a great pick, though. Good eyes. Good eyes back there, AJ. AJ's gone.

No. I'm right here. One in front, one behind, bro. One in front, one behind. You made him make the tough throw. I'm right here. One in front, one behind, bro. One in front, one behind. You made him make the tough stuff. That's right. That's right. AJ's locked in.

Absolutely. Learning. Another guy locked in, Kirby Joseph. Once again, I feel like every week he's another guy. Xavier McKinney, Kirby Joseph, always find a way to find the balls. And stops were kind of few and far between in this game. Fourth quarter, once again, first and ten in this rare area. feel like he picked off was it matt stafford uh week one yes sir in the end zone when he was wearing the blue in the blue end zone i think down here they just

put herbie joseph in this position hey play the middle of the field read the quarterback and make a play and uh he's kind of see ball get ball player i don't know if once again the general didn't see him anticipated he can get this over the top. You needed a score. Once again, game time, game's over. And this replay of him actually securing his catch, like going down, keeping one hand under it, securing it through the fall, unbelievable play by Kirby Joseph.

Look how high he is. Yeah. Snag. It's nasty. We're at the end zone? Yeah, we are. Oh, yeah. Yeah're at the end zone? Yeah, we are. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this catch is unbelievable.

They knew, though. Look at his teammates using outside leverage from here on the left side. Like, they're using Joseph. Like, they don't have outside leverage on their guys. End zone doesn't show it, but it's good Team D. See how they're outside in? Yep. Outside leverage, just like, once again, a couple of fields.

That one robber. Use your help. You know they're going to be trying to attack that end zone. High pointness. I mean, this is beautiful. This is an unbelievable play. On Calvin Johnson night? Yeah.

This is very Megatron-ish. That is a phenomenal catch. So, he just had a terrible quarterback when he was in high school? Me? Him. Probably, yeah. His ball skills for sure. He made that decision.

You know, I'm going to go for him. Here's that angle, D-Butt. Yeah, oh, yeah. This is unbelievable. Like, come down with the hand. Are you serious? Hand under it the whole time. Doesn't bobble.

Wins the game. How you doing? Keep it moving. Game winner. Shout out Kirby Joseph. Probably Gino's only mistake the whole time. Doesn't bobble. Wins the game. How you doing? Keep it moving. Game winner. Shout out Kirby Joseph. Probably Gino's only mistake the whole day. I don't think he did anything wrong other than that. Probably had to force that one because it was the end of the game.

The Lions DB, especially now, they're handsy. A lot of flags on the rookie, Terry Arnold. Carlton Davis was battling with DK all night, a little handsy, but as far as ball skills, Kirby Joseph, he's going to go up and get that ball. It seems like every week. That was phenomenal.

Oh, yeah. He's a big-time player. Whenever you pick one off, I mean, in the end zone, I highlight that a little forever for him. Game ceiling. All right. That high point, he's got to be – Yeah.

I mean, that's got to be 11 feet in the air. Yeah. He was up. That's way up there. I assume there's some camera angle with that catch that is going to be he's going to look like he is flying through the air because his body even turns so i think he's flat at one point while he's in the sky that's a poster and then and then it come down and keep that like that that's that's incredible that's maybe down the stairwell

there's me jumping there's me catching and then yeah i kept the fucker on the ground right down there if you see my hand underneath that. See ball, get ball. That's Kirby. Hell yeah. Kirby Joseph. That's a hell of a play. He's been good since he was a rookie, too. Just another guy, Brad Holmes, drafted, and he just came out and has been balling ever since. They had a bunch of draft

graphics. They did. Obviously. Aiden Hutchinson and Benet were interviewed next to each other. There's a lot of draft graphics. They have one of those cool Monday Night Football graphics where they built the truck out of the draft picks. Because that's Detroit. That's right.

It is. One pick at a time. Remember a couple years ago they were all tripping on acid, all those graphics? There's still no. Yeah, they screw around with it. They were getting real funky there. Real.

Whoever was the creative director. Jordan Davis was? Had just had some. A few. Explored the space. They did. Edgar Allen Poe one time. We respected.

Yeah. The Ravens, that was sweet. Hey, Jay, they explored the space, didn't they? They really did. You know what? I like them taking a shot. You're not going to hit a home run every time, but I like them taking shots at it. Baseball is happening.

That's a good reference. Rest in peace, Pete Rose. Man, Charlie Hustle. Slight head first into first base, which was the best. Cincinnati Reds fan. I mean, come on now. I'm from Ohio. Reds fan.

I mean, Charlie Hustle is the man. You better never loaf on your way to first base no matter what because of Pete Rose. Thank you, Pete. Unbelievable on TV. Unfortunately, it was a short-lived TV career, but he was great when he was on Fox. Agreed. That six-minute video I watched last night,

it's like the third time I've watched it. I feel like I could go be a major league hitter after watching it. He goes, if I'm quick on it, I just move up in the box. If I'm slow, I back up. If they're jamming me, I move back in the box. If I'm slow, I back up. If they're jamming me, I move back in the box. And if it's too far away, I move up in the box. Everybody wants to change their swing whenever you're in the middle of a slump. Your swing got you to the majors.

Maybe let's just change our alignment a little bit, and then we'll kind of see how it goes. And then A-Rod and Frank Thomas were like, never fucking thought of that. So smart. So simple. And he's like holding his bat. He's like, yeah. it goes and then a rod and frank thomas were like oh never thought of that so smart he's like holding his bat he's like yeah and he's got these cowboy boots on he looks awesome he's holding the bat and they're facing they're using home plate backwards which i found interesting like the field was built on the set out that way like home plate was that way they

were talking towards the back of the set so he's lining up in the the right batters here it is yeah and he just but he's talking as if he's a lefty and i'm like oh they probably just this is probably how they chat yeah like the bet it's going that way here he is if i'm a little slow i back up if i'm a little fast i move up and they're like no he talked about it uh because he was righty and lefty hitter, right? Switch hitter, yeah. I think they asked him if he's in a – can he be in a slump in one side and then not on the other side? And he basically said, I'd never get into a slump. And then he went on this whole rant here.

I don't know what you're talking about. Slump. He was player manager. There's a clip of him that's one of my favorite ever where he comes off of first base and takes the pitcher out and calls in a guy from the bullpen. He was player manager. There's a clip of him that's one of my favorite ever where he comes off of first base and takes the pitcher out and calls in a guy from the bullpen. He was player manager for a little bit. How awesome is that?

Is that real? It was part of the problem with the whole betting thing, I think. We're all sick of it. Get him off of there. I'm tired of this guy. Get off. Yeah, you're benched, dude. Who's coming in? Anybody but you. Get out of here. We'll talk after the game, I guess. Coach,ed, dude. Who's coming in? Anybody but you. Fucking get out of here. We'll talk after the game, I guess.

Coach, player, what, teammate? That's awesome. Yeah. Rest in peace, Pete. Back at him, baseball. Legend. Legend. He had five total strikeouts on that graphic in his, like, 46-game hit streak

or whatever it was. I was reading it this morning. So five total strikeouts in, like, 46 games or something like that. It's like just unbelievable at the game of baseball. If he was a Pittsburgh Pirate, now I know we had Barry Bonds and Jason Kendall.

Obviously his pop time is top five all the time. Yeah, well that was before I was on. But like, yeah, you're right. But like if Pete Rose was a part of the history of the Pirates, I think there's a little bit better chance more people interested in baseball in pittsburgh i assume there's a lot of cities that are like that cincinnati and ohio certainly a place that's like so this guy runs his ass off talk shit is entertaining and is also one of the best to

ever do it yeah okay we love this perfect in uh pete rose in oh Ohio feels like a perfect fit, legitimately. I don't think there's ever been a better fit. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, Pete. Got another Cincinnati legend. Who that? Jamar Chase. Sorry, who that?

That's on me. Who is that? That fan base. Third and three. What are you saying about that? We got Jamar Chase backside, the three-by-one. I mean, he's a great player. I love Jamar Chase.

They should pay him every dollar you'll see while in this play. But terrible, terrible tackle. You paused it right. My fault. Yeah, no, you're good. If you rewind it and just pause it right after the catch. Like, you come down, you're making the tackle. Don't turn that shoulder.

If you're coaching your kids, wrap up, get the guy to the ground. These guys are too good to just shoulder bump. Try to hit him to the ground. I believe three broken tackles on this play. It's a 33. Ever since Dalton's been in there this game, this team has been competitive. These are one of those games that are absolute backbreakers. The defense

you go in, you play 60 snaps. It's usually four or five explosive. Did you hear? I did hear. There's some allegations. He may have had some substances on him. They're saying maybe a little baby oil. Baby oil is really coming into conversation all of a sudden in a big way. Was that baby oil 1,000?

I don't know. But this one, they're saying maybe baby oil. Are you laughable? Am I wearing baby oil? What do you think this is? Maybe. Let's get a closer look from the back, Hoppy. Let's do it.

I appreciate the fact that he's tough to tackle, though, and everybody's like, you've got to be cheating. He always has been from day one when he stepped into the league. His run after catch has been amazing. Obviously, he's a deep ball threat, but you can't give him stuff. You can give up a 25-yard catch across the middle, but you got him like this, four guys around him, you've got to get him on the ground.

One missed tackle, two missed tackle, three missed tackle with bad leverage. You can't give up explosives. Was that 2-9 that wanted nothing of that right after he made the catch? I believe that was 2-5. If he chops him low, he's down. That's where you got to chop him low and wrap. It's quick. It happens quick.

So I'm not saying it's easy. It's not easy by any means. Is that in leverage? Right there. If he's outside in, he sends him back to his teammates even if he misses that one. Trust me, this is something I work on with little kids every single day. It's really hard to get them to do this. Are you talking about first hit? First hit, yep.

That? But don't. It's coming up. The last one is the worst. The last one. The leverage. If you're outside in here, look, if he goes at the outside leg, even if he misses it, Jamar has to turn back into the whole team chasing.

What do they say? Outside flyboard. Outside in. Take your shot if you got pursuit. Now, if you one-on-one open field, that's a lot tougher. But you missed that shot up the sideline. That's where most big plays happen in the NFL is up the sideline. You cannot, you cannot, cannot give that up.

Are the Bengals back? First win, big win. You know, the first one, maybe they get on a little roll here. You got Joe Burrow who has been playing good football this year. We know Jamar Chase didn't do much in the preseason. Same thing with Tee Higgins. So, this is a team that can definitely get rolling. Hell yeah.

I love that. Here's a team that's rolling. And then this is a team that is absolutely rolling. You see J-Mo down the bottom of the screen. Keep rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling. Now, this was the most egregious bad D probably of the year. You got him in a cut split. Now, it's a lot of weapons.

It's a lot of weapons with this Detroit Lions offense, but this is a speed guy. You got to be aware. You can't have like they don't have a safety in the middle of the field. Right now, it just looks like it's probably a deep post safety. It's back. It's not. Nobody's back there. The corner, I don't know if he's playing like he expects

somebody back there. Up top, St. Brown will be wide-ass open as well, but coming off this play action, first and ten, we talked about first and second down passing. He catches that. Once he's getting bad leverage, you let him get outside, and it is good night, Irene. I don't know if that was a miscommunication from the sideline

getting into the huddle, but to not have a safety on the back end. Jenkins is a safety right here. He's coming down. He's actually blitzing from who knows where. Great dodge by Laporta here. Flint, Michigan. Yeah. That's how you blitz from some random ass city in the state. Flint, Michigan. And nobody back in the deep part of the field. I mean, Tariq Woolen, he's pointing like he's expecting to pass it to a guy,

but nobody was there. Just complete mishap. And I mean, guys can make a play. Guys can break tackles. Guys can make phenomenal catches, but you can't give up a 70-yarder. He starts high-stepping at the 27. Oh, yeah. D-Butt, in general, last night's game, would you say great offense

or bad defense? Great offense. Great offense. I think balance. You know, they were missing some people, you know, as far as rushing the passer. But great offense, great balance. The stat Pat put out there to him, both shot him. As far as, you know, the run game and the play-action game, marrying that up.

Ben Johnson, I thought his timing of the play calls, even the trick play. You know, how stupid you can look if that shit doesn't work. But when it does work, you know, you look like a fucking genius. So, I think Ben dialed it up all day long. You look like a genius, ladies and gentlemen. Everything, DB. Good day. Bad day.

A Tuesday staple of this season. In the trenches tomorrow. That should be a good conversation. Oh, yeah. J.J. Watt tomorrow. Ooh. Coach Saban on Friday. Nice.

Chuck Pagano on Thursday. Of course. Lambo. Happy birthday, Connie, once again. Constance. She's a week older than she was last week. Last week she turned a year older than she was the day before. Happy birthday to Constance Pagano. Fucking

dog. She's a skier. Very strong. Sumo champ. That's what he said when he was describing her. She's a skier, so she was real strong. 70, right? 70? Yeah, I think so.

Still wrestling. Still wrestling, she said. She's got to be the greatest female American sumo wrestler of all time. Buddy's instructor. John Rushmore. Definitely on Mount Rushmore. female American sumo wrestler of all time? Constance Pagano? Yeah. You a Thaddeus instructor? No, I'm Rushmore. Definitely not Rushmore. John Wick.

She worked... Keanu Reeves. Remember? She worked with him. Thaddeus. Still to this day. I wonder if she's smoking cigs. Keanu's a big cig smoker, eh?

Speaking of cigs. There's one down in Bloomington that's... Wagging. Wagging. First time in 57 years they're 5-0 down there. The IU Hoosiers football team. He actually sent a text message out to every student going hey listen we're doing some shit here that

hasn't happened in a long time we're gonna need you come and show up they did i i have not since living here in indianapolis in the indiana area obviously even in the bad years for the iu basketball team assembly hall is sold out. It is packed. They are a basketball school through and through. The football team has gone through a lot of changes since I've got here. Signetti comes in here, starts an NIL program,

starts raising some money, starts generating some juice, and now for the first time in 57 years, they're 5-0, and the IU faithful are behind them. I mean mean it is a real wagon right now and in this Big Ten obviously you're going to have some monsters that you're going to have to play every single year but there's a chance that IU can get some good players yeah and make a run at Sig Google Sig wins that's literally what he does and him doing it in Bloomington

not an easy task you know it's your second fiddle in the sports thing. That doesn't happen in a lot of places. In the fans' eyes, I assume in the administration's eyes, in the boosters' eyes, like in a lot of eyes, your second fiddle because the IU basketball is so historic and great and the Hoosier stripes and yada, everything like that. So for him to come in and flip it and then text every student and then show up and win afterwards, like that's a big deal

because they lose that game. Oh, the Hoosiers fans are going, oh, we got this guy fucking texting us. We're forced to get a text message like that U2 album we got on our phones. We're forced to get this text message. But instead they win. It's like now they all feel like they're kind of a part of it. It's something special growing down. Yeah, Stig Cignetti's awesome.

He did the text before like, hey, studying can wait. The tail tailgate could wait let's get inside the stadium and then after it texted him again or emailed him again and thanked him and said we'll see you again uh for Nebraska for homecoming their favorites this weekend against Northwestern to potentially go six and oh and then they have Nebraska at home at seven and Washington's not Washington, and Michigan State's still down. That's what? 8-0? Then they get Michigan and Ohio State. Tough. And then Purdue. I mean, this could be a two-loss team if things go the way they want them to go.

And what does that mean? 12-team playoff? Potentially. What are they going to do? That would be awesome. That would be crazy. If Sig Signetti comes in and comes in and lights it up and is just like, so what, now what?

This is IU football? After Google me. Yep. Think about Midwest now, okay? Obviously, yeah, Google me, I win. And everything he did for us at JMU, we're very thankful for. Signetti's been good to us in our short term of knowing him. From Pittsburgh, grew up in West Virginia.

Like, Paisan, been around a long time. We are... He is literally everything that we're looking for in a human. We are big fans of his. But I don't think, me personally, as somebody who's lived here for over a decade now, I didn't think there was any chance. I thought, like, Cignetti, okay, going down there. He'll get some wins.

He'll be able to do it. For the amount of juice that he's been able to generate in such a quick time, it's like, good for him. Joe Buck's obviously rocking the Cignetti shirt. It's like, the IU fans are good fans, too. They have been for the basketball team. If you give them a reason, like they are a good school,

a good alumni, and it's like, here we go. Who, who, who, who's yours? And allegedly, the basketball team just spent a ton of money on grabbing a bunch of new players. So, you know, if this football team starts to do this, basketball team starts to do this, it's going to be a lot of pressure over there and that money might be going towards the football program.

So I understand what you're saying, but IU basketball is like a... Staple. Yeah. I don't know, brother. If a local sports personality has anything to say about it, they're dancing a little bit too much on that basketball team.

There does seem to be a lot of TikTok trends in a lot of these media days. That's small special. A lot of dancing. A lot of dancing. Yep. New generation. These new generation, young generation.

If you win, who cares? You lose, that's going to get all against you. You just need to know that. You just need to know that. That's just reality of situation. Reality of situation. You got to stop it. That's Zito.

Zito's the old man. He owned it in the cloud. That's him. That's him. Big TV tonight. Hope everybody watches. Should be fun. I'm sure everybody will love each other more tomorrow because of it.

You're right. Let's do a D-Busch and Sue giveaway, bro. Baseball? Yeah, it is. You're right. Is that the TV? You're right. Is that a TV show? You're right. Slam the A-Gate.

Tigers are up 3-0 right now. Last I checked. Let's go. Yeah! Let's go. School ball. Dee Butch, let's do a giveaway, you know? Unify the people.

You're right. Baseball's on tonight for us. Hell yeah. Slam the A-Gate. Slam the A-Gate. That's right. Everybody's watching. Everybody. You know, Ravi knows he's. Slam the A-gay. That's why everybody's watching. Everybody.

You know, Ravi knows the starting pitcher since he's a child. His dad, a journalist, sat in the same newsroom. He was there whenever he was born. Ravi actually caught him, I guess. Celebrating birthdays. Little Michael. Little Michael King. Listen, D-Buck, you beat the shit out of that microphone.

You do whatever you got to do. I don't like the way that microphone talks to you either. Maybe. Look at you sideways A little reckless. Look at you sideways a little bit. Maybe D-Buck could hit 10 threes in a row for this giveaway today. Oh, yeah. I forgot.

New champs. Champs are back. Champs are back. After one of the greatest performances of all time. Yeah, if I'm going to lose, I'm going to take a L. If we lose the belt, we've got to go out to a performance. Why do they throw a piece of medals in front of them? I actually have to shake your hand. Fantastic.

It was an honor to be there. No room. Ten in a row, no room. Ten straight. Ten straight, AJ. Ten straight, made threes in the game. In 33. Yeah, boom, bang, pow, pow.

No rim either. We're talking like the splashiest splashes that have ever come off my hand. So, first round, I'm close, but I'm bricking a lot. But I literally come out and say, it's coming off my hand pretty good right now. Feels good. I'm really feeling it right now. And then the next round, yeah, I just in flago. The best shooting I've ever done in my entire life.

Didn't shoot again the rest of the day. I might never shoot a basketball ever. Legitimately never shoot a basketball again. It felt so good. It felt so good. And the champs are back, obviously. But because we are a giving champion, you know, me and Foxy.

Of course. He won moon ball, too, I think, didn't he? Yeah, I won a couple games of moon ball as well. That was a good day for us. It was a good day for us. And then the Lions won. Okay! In the Motor City Muscle Tarps. That's right. Wow! And the Tigers are up threeps. That's right. Wow. And the Tigers are up three zip.

Tigers might win. All right. Zito, do you know how to cut those cameras? No. All right, Foxy. All right, Foxy. What are we doing? Things are going good.

I don't know, buddy. It's going to be something basketball. You're going to have to pick and choose, obviously, whatever you'd like to do. You can shoot some free throws. You can shoot some threes. You can do the entire. Foxy, how many free throws have you made in a row before? 93. 93 straight free throws.

93. That takes a lot of time, obviously. He's not hitting the rim, though, on those. Those are splash, dropping straight down. He's walking over, getting it. We're right back in motion. It's almost like an exercise. Foxy, the basketballs are over here.

What do you want to do? Basketball. What, though? We'lls are over here. What do you want to do? What though? From here. Ladies and gentlemen, Evan Foxy, who is currently the reigning defending, undisputed shot to Paul Heyman, 33 champion of the office,

is going to attempt a stage shot. If he's able to make this, we will give 30 people $500. Whoa. Evan Fox! Oh! Let's go! 30 people!

Wow! $500! Wow! What a shot! That's my teammate! That's my teammate! They're hot right now. Man. Hoops are looking a little bigger for us right now. That was never a top.. That's my teammate. That's my teammate. They're hot right now. Man. Hoops are looking a little bigger for us right now. That was never a time.

And that's good news. All you got to do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you, and we will randomly select 30 people because Foxy is drip drop, drop top, splash bot right now. For sure. Good for you, Foxy. Thank you. You know, some people don't believe in momentum. I mean, we just witnessed momentum right now. For sure. Good for you, Foxy. Thank you.

You know, some people don't believe in momentum. I mean, we just witnessed momentum right there. That felt good. Yeah, but we're not taking those people as serious as we used to. Anyways, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. That's a real deal.

Legit, that is the real deal. We're in this thing together. Let's never forget it. Especially after tonight. When this baseball game gets real intense and somehow a microphone gets onto the field and you're hearing people say the complete opposite of each other.

Sure. And they're saying the other side is the most evil of all time. And you potentially agree with one of those sides. So somebody's calling you evil. So you've got to stand back and say, well, you're fucking evil. And whenever that's happening

in that baseball game tonight, remember we all got to share this and say, well, you're fucking evil. And whenever that's happening in that baseball game tonight, remember, we've all got to share this rock here for the foreseeable future. Let's remember that. Once in a while, we've got to put our swords aside, even though people seemingly have to yell it from the rooftop. We're in this thing together. We need a scoreboard.

We do need a scoreboard so we can know who we should take more seriously. Who's keeping the score? Well, that's always the issue. Here in sports, we got to, I don't think Jesus separates church and state, brother. But the sports, we have a scoreboard. So we know who to take serious, and who not to take serious.

Politics needs to figure that one out, because we would like to know. I'd like to know who we should be listening to. I think Ballmer's on it. I'm sure. He's got a great new arena over there. Oh, yeah. A lot of toilets.

The most in the league. Anyways, we're in this thing together. Let's never forget it. Never forget it. We're in this thing. Cody Rhodes, the American Nightmare, will be in Thunderdome tomorrow. What? Hell yeah.

Wow. This was announced on Monday Night Raw last night. WWE Champion Cody Rhodes will be live in the Thunderdome tomorrow. What an honor. Ba-da-boo. Ba-da-boo. Ba-ba-ba, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-boo, ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-boo. Whoa! Nailed it.

Nailed it. Fucking nailed it. Okay? Us and Cody Rhodes. Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Wow. That's good sign.

Oh, yeah. Can't wait to talk to you tomorrow. Bad blood this weekend down in Atlanta. Should be great. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together.

Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.