The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1215 - Big News Tuesday, MNF Recap, CJ Stroud, Kevin O'Connell, Michael Keaton, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys react to the big news of the day: Robert Saleh being let go as Head Coach of the New York Jets, with Defensive Coordinator Jeff Ulbrich stepping into the Head Coach role, with the boys recounting Saleh's tenure with the Jets and what this means as the 2-3 team moves forward in a wide open AFC East. In the first hour, reigning Rookie of the Year, Houston Texans quarterback CJ Stroud joined the progrum to talk about his continued success in the NFL including a HUGE win over the Bills this past weekend, taking what the defense gives him, playing in the Lahd Hahse, his sick celebration pose after his perfect throw to Nico Collins, playing for DeMeco Ryans, Jayden Daniels' rookie success in Washington, and more. In the second hour, the boys recap last night's MNF matchup between the Chiefs & the Saints which saw the Chiefs stay undefeated and Travis Kelce return to his HOF form, we're also joined by Cincinnati Bengals center & NFLPA player rep Ted Karras stopped by to discuss their push for adjustments around the media's presence in NFL locker rooms around the league. Minnesota Vikings Head Coach Kevin O'Connell also stopped by to chat about the Vikings incredible 5-0 start, the team's confidence in Quarterback Sam Darnold, playing in London, England, what makes him so successful as a playcaller, and more. In the third hour, legendary actor Michael Keaton joins the show to talk about his upcoming movie "Goodrich" that premieres October 18th, growing up in Pittsburgh, his love of Pittsburgh sports, growing up in the Burgh, his legendary acting career, and more. We close the show by getting smarter about football with Everything DB presented by Darius Butler. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/patmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We'll see you tomorrow. Cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Big News Tuesday, October 8th, 2024. This program starts now! Football is awesome, okay? And the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. The Chiefs get a massive win on Monday Night Football. Travis Kelsey's back to doing Travis Kelsey stuff. That means getting the ball a lot, doing laterals. Taylor Swift is in the building before she launches another massive tour. Patrick Mahomes is doing his thing. Kareem Hunt goes for over 100 yards. Hello, Juju Smith-Schuster,

introducing himself back to the Kansas City Chiefs fan base in the New Orleans Saints. Have a tough outing, even though they make it close late, and the Chiefs remain undefeated. Alongside the Chiefs being undefeated, the Minnesota Vikings undefeated. Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, will join us at 1.30 Eastern Standard Time. 12.15 here in about 14 minutes. C.J. Stroud will join us of the Houston Texans at 2.05 Eastern Time on YouTube, ESPN Plus, and TikTok Live.

Michael Keaton, yeah, that Michael Keaton will join us. Oh, that is all fine and dandy. The sports world changed this morning. Out of nowhere, on this particular Tuesday, the New York Jets and Woody Johnson have fired Coach Robert Sala. This news obviously drops from an Adam Schefter text or tweet at 10.08 Eastern, and everybody on earth is wondering to themselves,

how the hell did we get here so fast? We're just five weeks into the season. The Jets obviously before the season had high hopes, high expectations. Aaron Rodgers was back. The defense, which under Sala had been damn good throughout the entirety of his coaching stint for the New York Jets, was going to be great. And then the offense couldn't be able to match it.

We're going to go win a Super Bowl. We're going to invest. We're going to do this thing. Here we are five weeks in, and there's disappointment, not just in America, but also in London. That trip back from London town, was Woody Johnson so fed up with everything he was seeing on the sideline? Was Woody Johnson sick of seeing everything that he saw in the news

and in the newspaper about his team not living up to expectations, not living up to hope? So he felt obligated to do something we don't know. But what we do know is that defense coordinator, Coach Ulrich, is now the interim head coach, and Coach Sala is no longer a coach in the NFL. Now, to Coach Sala, we will say this. That's a tough market over there. We've had some tough players playing very important positions for you. The team

hasn't looked great. You know, Fireman Ed at one point even thought about maybe not being Fireman Ed for the Jets anymore, even though he runs into fires instead of away from fires. Even he couldn't deal with the shit of the New York Jets anymore. And Jets fans have obviously always seemingly been cursed is what they would say.

But this guy, whenever he left the San Francisco 49ers, his defense coordinator was going to be the guy that was going to change it for the New York Jets. Because the amount of moxie energy, passion, respect from the coaches, and respect from the players that he had. It was going to be different when Robert Sala got in there, and they just didn't win. Nope.

They just continued to not win. Aaron comes back. They got a slow start. Last year, he only got to play four offensive plays for them. Achilles tear. That was probably Bob Sala's best coaching job was after that being able to step up into a microphone every single week and say we're trying this we're trying that when really what he wanted to say was we're punting on a year okay we uh we plan on the quarterback coming in here and changing everything and instead he gets hurt four plays into what he wants to be we're punting on a year we're gonna run it back. Well, they are trying to run it back this year. He will

not be running it back anymore. Fired through five weeks of the NFL season. Now, a lot of people are going to say that Aaron Rodgers was the one that got him fired. Aaron Rodgers did a power play here. A lot of people have been trying to drive a wedge between Aaron Rodgers and Robert Sala literally since the

day that Aaron Rodgers went to the New York Jets with Robert Sala. Aaron Rodgers has told us on this particular program, he has told the public on numerous occasions, he likes Coach Robert Sala. Now, the hug situation that happened on the field obviously was something, but if you watch the one Jets drive about eight days after that, there was actually a hug

on a tunnel after that game immediately. They could have released that in the morning and said, hey, the hug thing, kind of null and void, we got a hug on a tunnel after that game immediately. They could have released that. Could have released that in the morning and said, hey, the hug thing, kind of null and void. We got a hug later. But I think Aaron has been very open and public about liking Robert Sala. So for him, I'll be excited to hear his take tomorrow, 12-10 Eastern.

Aaron Rodgers will be joining us to chit-chat about everything happening with the New York Jets. Coach Sala, himself, going forward, his answer is going to be there's a lot of football left. A lot of things can still happen, which I assume is the message that everybody's still delivering in the Jets building today, which is why I assume everybody is a little gobsmacked by the news in the building. Now, they play on Monday night football. Okay, so in NFL buildings, whenever you're playing on a

different day, they change the schedule up basically. So for the rest of the world right now, it's Tuesday. In the New York Jets football operation, it is Monday because there is one week until the next game or six days until the next game, which is Monday night. So tomorrow will be the off day. Today was scheduled to be in the afternoon work like a scheduled Monday is in a football building. Then this firing happens and then boom, schedule goes crazy. And then it's like, hey, tomorrow, probably much smarter and much better and much more couth for the entire situation, especially for a coach that he has a lot of respect for. So we will see Aaron Rodgers tomorrow.

Everybody's going to have takes on this. Big time. In the sports world. Everybody in New York is going to have takes on this. And now all eyes are on this team going forward. Was it Coach Sala's fault? Okay. Was it Coach Sala's fault? Okay. Was it the offense's fault?

What do they do with the rest of the season? With Coach Ulbrich taking over, who we saw in hard knocks, has respect of the team. Fascinating times for the New York Jets. But this is the NFL. Bryce Young got benched after week two of the NFL season. He said it felt like the season was slipping away. Here we are after week five. New York

Jets going, this is not what we thought this year was going to be. We're losing in England. We're losing at home. We got no hope and we're the laughing stock of everybody. So Woody Johnson makes the call to fire the head coach. Football is insane. It always will be. The talk to the table is here at Boston Connor and Bruce

Brown still filling in for Ty Schmidt. Conman, you know it. The Jets always make good decisions, and this seemingly is one that has nobody talking. Yeah, very early on for the Jets to jet this hard, but this is what the Jets do. I mean, we kind of – I usually go back to at some point throughout the season it'll happen.

Didn't expect it to be after week five. You would have thought maybe like, hey, they lose to the Broncos in a very disgusting game. That would make more sense. They almost beat the Vikings, and the Vikings, as we all know, are very good now. They're 5-0. Game-winning drive going down in England.

International game, early morning, 9.30 kickoff. You wake up, there's football. How's the beginning of it? Not great for the Jets. Jets come back. All of a sudden, we got a thriller in England to kick off the international series this way. You're two plays away, potentially, from beating the undefeated Minnesota Vikings.

But instead now, long flight back, Tuesday you're fired. Yeah, crazy. Wild time. And you just said it, too. Like, they came back. It's not as if they got blown out, where they could have. Like, there was a time in that game where I felt like it could have gone very south for the Jets,

and it could have got ugly, but it didn't. And I feel like, isn't that kind of a reflection of coaching when your team can go one way? Yeah. Like, look at this. It's 17 to nothing and they still make a game out of it. I mean, from here on out, what it's 17, six jets. Cause it ended up being 23, 17. Like it wasn't that bad of a performance. I'm blown away by the fact that it's happening now. I'm not blown away

because it is the New York Jets and this is just what happens to them every single year. I assume there's going to be some sort of team meeting today and everything that takes place. Woody will probably speak to the team at that point, introduce Ulbrich. Ulbrich will lay out his thoughts, his mindset. Ulbrich hired by Sala

though, right? Yeah. So you got a lot of – we were joined by a nine-year NFL vet. Looks cool, not as cool as he did yesterday. He's a gentleman. Darius J. Butler is here. D-Butch. Coach fire midseason. Obviously, we've covered it over the last, you know, few years here during the Daily Show existence of our life here. Normally gets a good bump. Normally after a head coach is fired,

normally there's a sense of like, okay, we got to re-earn it, re-prove it. There's a little freshness in the air, a little bit more motivation. Feels interesting. Everything is not like that for the Jets right now, how we all feel. It just kind of feels like it's an ugly situation altogether. What do you make of it, and how do you think players in locker room are kind of viewing it? I'm on the same page with Connor.

Absolutely confused. You mentioned it yesterday. All the two and three teams, you know, kind of still out there. I feel like most of the league is kind of in that ballpark. So it's weird that it happened. If you're going to make this decision, I feel like you already came into this season if you're Woody Johnson. Like, hey, I'm just looking for a reason.

If that was the case, just do it in offseason so that you come in with a fresh start as far as the head coach goes. And you mentioned the defense has been good. So to be two and three coming off a game like that and for him to get fired, I'm absolutely shocked that it went this way. Even when Tom went to Tampa, like, it wasn't just smooth out of the gate. This is pretty much Aaron Rodgers' first real season actually playing and gelling with the guys, A lot of new pieces on offense.

It took them, I think, until after like a late bye week to really get rolling into the playoffs. So you would expect to have more patience from the owner. Just surprised. But to Conman's point, Jets are going to Jets at some point. And week five just happened to be the time this year. You were talking about Tom Brady and Bruce Arians getting on the same page like week 11 whenever they had a bye week.

And that's whenever the offense really started going afterwards, and they go on the miraculous run to go win the Super Bowl or whatever it is. This is the first time that Salah and Aaron have gone week to week through a football season. So that's why people are like, oh, Aaron hates Salah. Salah hates Aaron because their answer is like, no. Aaron's a super competitive dude, has been doing it a long time. Salah has an operation how he runs it.

This is their first time kind of experiencing it. There might be some disagreements. That is legitimately how high-profile stuff happens, and this is not us speaking as a source-siz conversation. We're just speaking from outside looking in. It's like Aaron has never told us that he hates Sala. No. That is, and that's seemingly the reaction on the internet today is Aaron goes into Woody's

office and says, I'm not doing it anymore. Okay, you hear me? I flew back from London just like you did. It was a long, miserable flight. I'm done with it. I'm not doing it the rest of the year. That's seemingly what everybody on the internet is thinking. Oh, yeah.

And I assume that is also what a lot of masses are thinking. I'm not 100% sure that's the case. Would Aaron want an interim head coach? What's this? Has an interim head coach ever went on to win? I don't... What is the positive if you're Woody Johnson for this at all? Some Jets fans are happy, I think.

The Jets fans are definitely happy. I've seen a lot of happy Jets fans out there because they don't trust Salah. But do the Jets fans and Woody think that Ulrich is going to be able to motivate the boys better than Salah did? Like, is that – that's why he made this move? Like, because that's the only reason in my head that it makes sense.

Okay, so talking about motivating the boys, there's a fascinating stat that Hembo sent through. During Salah's tenure, the Jets were outscored by 200 – I think it's the next one, Foxy. Boom. The Jets were outscored by 267 points in the first half. Jeez. Which is the worst in the NFL.

Jets were, which motivate, you talk about motivating the team, it's like slow start after slow start after slow start to a historic fashion. Boys aren't ready is the natural reaction to that particular stat. And I think a lot of Jets fans experience the beginning of games being a nightmare.

And it's like, yeah, they're outscored by 267 points in the first half over his tenure, which is obviously not great. Coach Sala was 20-36 as a head coach for the Jets, which is the worst record in the history of New York Jets football. They've had a lot of losing seasons. A lot of losing seasons. During Sala's tenure, the Jets were outscored. Yep, during Sala's tenure, the Jets had 60 more penalties than their opponents did,

the worst margin in the NFL. So if you go by how a team starts a game, coach, you're supposed to have them ready. And then how disciplined team is, coach, you're supposed to have them disciplined. I guess those two stats would be why Jets fans are like, let's move along. Finally. Seasons slipping away.

But I think what a lot of us would say, like in the building, it's like those are all the same guys, you know, that are kind of in there. But maybe Albrecht will run a different ship. Maybe there'll be a little bit more power given to certain people instead of what was happening before. Maybe the message just wasn't hitting home anymore from Coach Sala. So a new person delivering whatever message will be great. But it's like, do they have it in there?

Allegedly Jay Glazer talked to Robert Sala after the firing, and Coach Sala was blindsided by it, certainly disappointed, but that he wasn't going to be given the opportunity to get things going with what he said is a very good roster. So Coach Sala still thinks, you know, that what they had in the locker room was good. He thought he was going to maybe be given the opportunity to turn it around.

That's what Jay Glazer is reporting. He is not. He has been canned. He has been fired. He has been released. They've decided to go their separate ways. Normally, that is how he's going on vacation, is what was reported by Mike Silver, I believe. He's going on vacation. Don't look for him to coach this year.

Like the Indianapolis coach, you guys want to go to D.C.? Okay, cool. Probably going on vacation with his family right now. See you next year. Hey, San Francisco 49ers, you're thinking maybe we bring back Coach Sala and we just do the whole thing? He's going on vacation right now. He's got a lot to think about, and he's got a guaranteed contract still. There's a lot of that type of stuff happening.

But whenever you have an organization that has had this much shit, you have to start thinking yourself how's this go and i know this the first time in 25 years and woody johnson as an owner has fired a head coach in the middle of the season and i guess it's the first time since 1976 if you read those hembo stats that a coaching change has been made in the middle of the season and it was when lou holtz uh just resigned in the middle of the season just said all right i'm out of here i'm not going to be doing that so this is maybe them rattling the cage, doing something differently, or is this them potentially acknowledging to themselves that they don't get a

lot right, you know, and let's try to do something different. I don't know what the outcome is. I have no idea what comes from any of this. I'm excited to talk to Aaron tomorrow, but boy, the streets are talking about the old Jets moving on from head coach. Yeah. And they're going to continue to, no matter what. Like, the people who think that Aaron did this, you know, they're going to continue to think that no matter what.

But, like, based on what he's depicted to us, obviously they had a good relationship. Is there a sense in the building, you two obviously know this better than any of us, like when a coach does get fired, do guys feel and, like, take that personally as if they let that guy down like is that also a bump from players because we talk about like the new coach bump got to prove it to the new guy but is there also like a personal like hey we all have to be better for both the new guy

and because we just let this guy down I mean I feel like as players especially as vets you the good players and good teams I feel like you always look yourself in the mirror first like hey what what could I have done better especially as a leader or captain and things teams, I feel like you always look yourself in the mirror first. Like, hey, what could I have done better? Especially as a leader or captain and things like that. I've never personally been on a team that had a coach fire mid season. My last season with Chuck, which was Chuck's last season in Indy,

kind of towards the end, you kind of knew it was most likely we had a good relationship where you knew that was probably going to be the end. So you do feel like you do take some ownership and some responsibility, especially if you like the guy. If you don't like the guy, if you're not like if he doesn't, you know, if you came into the season, like, why is this guy still the head coach? Maybe it's a completely different feeling. Now you have Coach Oberg. You're like, hey, it may be some new life kind of infused.

But it's just weird from the ownership standpoint. If you're going to make that call, once again, I just go back to make the call before the season. Give the head coach a real opportunity to instill some culture, his culture, to have that voice. Because now you have a new voice leading the team who a lot of these guys probably never heard run a meeting. A lot of the offensive guys probably haven't heard him run meetings. I've heard nothing but great things about him. But taking on that head coach role is a completely different ballgame.

But I've never personally been on a team that had a coach fired uh mid-season of you no me neither as you're giving that answer i was trying to figure it out chuck leaving in his first year because he had leukemia and then bruce arians being the head coach acting head coach while chuck defeats leukemia and then comes back at the end of the year, which is crazy to think about happening during one NFL season, his first year as a head coach. We had an early bye, so we got some spots checked out because Miss Tina forced him into it. He had leukemia.

We came back from the bye, and there was an all-hands-on-deck team meeting, which very rarely happens. You know, like everybody. Trainers are in here. Equipment managers are in here. Everybody all hands on deck. And it didn't start on time. So that was obviously a little bit of a, okay, what's going on?

Then doctors walked in, you know, and kind of gave the prognosis. Irsay was in there, I believe. And Bruce Arians then was told, like, hey, he's going to be the acting head coach here. Then he talked about leaving a light on. So that was literally a moment of, like, playing for Chuck. That was like a playing for Chuck moment. A coach being fired, I don't know if you do a play for it.

I don't know. I legitimately... But if you're in the Jets organization, I think you're used to chaos. For sure. You're used to... This is your last few years. Shit just happening, seemingly. Never ending. Alright, well let's certainly dive back into that conversation. We're going to get a chance to chat

with Aaron Rodgers tomorrow, 12-10 Eastern. I'm excited to hear his take on it. I respect the hell out of the decision to not come on and talk about it today. Just out of respect for the whole situation. I'd like to learn more and see how it all is. But tomorrow, he'll have some thoughts.

No doubt. I'll be excited to hear it. And his thoughts will shape what the mindset's going to be for the rest of the season for Jets fans, who are probably pretty pumped, some of them pumped about change and maybe not looking the same way we've looked and moving on to a different era here. And then some Jets fans are like, here we go again.

So I'm excited to hear what he has to say tomorrow. That'll be 12-10 Eastern. That should be fun. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's in his second year, again we so i'm excited to hear what he has to say tomorrow that'll be 12 10 eastern uh that should be fun joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who's in his second year and we only know one ap voter we only know one yeah best one we love he he made like a watch list yeah for who's gonna win different awards this dude's in his second year okay already in Already in an AP voters MVP watch list. Jeez. Okay? Last year, this dude won absolutely bananas, was so good that people say,

hey, this guy's going to be cheap. Now, he struggles when he comes to Indianapolis, even though he wins. Ladies and gentlemen, CJ Stroud. Yeah, CJ. What's up, y'all? CJ, how you doing, man? I'm blessed. How are you? I'm good.

Hey, just a quick question. It doesn't appear as if you got worse this year. Sucks. That sucks. Not happy about it, but how do you feel in this second year? You feel like an old man out there? You feel like a vet? How do you feel week to week?

Are you still getting better, or are we already at our max year two in the AFC South terrorizing everybody CJ uh I feel like I'm still getting better week to week you know um a lot of defense are playing me a little different you know just trying to take me away um you know playing a lot of deep coverage a lot of too high shell so uh you know I'm still trying to process that but I feel like week to week I'm getting better I think the last two weeks are definitely some of my best games and you know I'm still trying to process that, but I feel like week to week I'm getting better. I think the last two weeks are definitely some of my best games, and I'm just still growing and still continuing to just challenge myself every weekend and week out just to find ways to get wins.

So you talk about that two-eye coverage. That's actually a big part of the conversation about the modern NFL right now. Mel Kuyper Jr. actually went on television and said we need to ban cover two because of what it's doing to NFL offenses. You just talked about learning it. What does that mean for you? Just taking the easy one as opposed to always taking the shot or trying to dissect the defense a little bit more?

What do you mean by that whenever you say trying to figure out cover two a little bit more? I would say, I mean, I've been playing against it forever, but, you know, it's a defensive philosophy, in my opinion, like bend, don't break, and just make you snap it over and over and over and over, you know. So, I mean, that's where I think we can get better for the Texans, just, you know, being able to get our running game going a little more.

Also, you know, not just getting cheap penalties because then that puts you in a backed-up situation or first and 20, second and 20, first and 15, second and 15. I mean, you're living on third down, and it's hard to live on third down in the NFL. So I would say, like, you know, I'm, you know, taking what's there. I'm taking the shots when I see them. But also, you know, just, you know, being able to stay in the positive,

stay in the greens, what we talk about here. And I think, you know, that's kind of what defenses are doing nowadays to, you know, some of the premier quarterbacks. You see Mahomes gets it a ton. Josh Allen gets it a ton. You know, it's hard to always just be patient. Sometimes you just want to force it down the field. So, you know, it's just a lot of maturity that you have to have at this position when you're, you know, looked at as one of the guys that can, you know, be the defense and they don't want to take you away. Okay. So let's talk about that maturity a little bit. Do you think it's because you played so much ball at Ohio State

that you just kind of drop in here and you're a 90-year-old man at the most important position in the NFL? Why do you think you have that maturity level already? Yeah, I would say it has to do somewhat with my time at Ohio State. It definitely prepared me, you know, not only on the field but off as well. So I would honestly say just who I am kind of as a person. I think I've always kind of been a mature kid since I've been little. Now, like, I'm just returning as a man.

But I definitely think as you talk to, like, as I talk to defenses around the league after games, they're like, man, we're going to take you away and force other guys to beat us. So, you know, and I think that's a sign of respect, you know, but also, you know, we're still finding ways to win, which that is what matters at the end of the day. Yeah. And you're still finding deep shots. I mean, you had one of the coldest celebrations this last weekend. I mean, this ball obviously in a bucket, but then the hands crossed,

arms crossed, Todd, Nico, we'll talk about him here in a little bit, your connection, obviously him being weak. That's one of the coldest reactions I've seen in some time. We knew we were doing this. If the next shot or just in the moment felt like this was the right reaction? I feel like it was just the right reaction. It was kind of just – I didn't plan on it, but I kind of did something similar last year,

but just reminding myself and reminding everybody it's regular. You give me the shy, I'm going to take it. I'm going to just make you pay. I often just have to remind myself, too. I'm still that guy. I can still play this game at a very, very high level.

I think that was just one of those moments like, yeah, it's like that. I had to remind everybody this is regular. That is an awesome So I think that was just like one of those moments like, yeah, like, it's like that. I had to remind everybody. I'm not always that way. I had to remind everybody this is regular. That is awesome. That is an awesome response. Let me talk to you about a third down week one in the Loud House.

I know you experienced the Loud House. I know your ears are still buzzing because of Indianapolis. You made this throw. It was an out, I believe, to Nico. Third and 11, fourth quarter, we were charging back. That ball right there, okay? Hey, listen, that shit can't be happening against Indianapolis anymore. You hear me?

That's one of the nicest throws of all time. And you say, like, I have to remind people this is regular. Is there throws or is there moments in games where after something happens, you go, damn, I can't believe that happened? Is that happening still to you, or is everything legitimately expected at this point? That should have been picked off, batted down, and too far out of bounds.

Instead, you thread two needles, and then you make a first down to win the game pretty much in Indianapolis. It's like, this is just what this guy does. Is there anything that surprises you anymore, or do you have full confidence in everything you're doing? I would say I have full confidence. I'm very humble at the same time, but I know what I can do on the field.

I know that there's no defense for the perfect throw. So I just really, it's just, you know, you got to just be able to focus in those moments. I seen you and Tyrese over there going crazy. So, you know, I had to hush y'all boys. I was trying to look at y'all after. I think y'all left. Y'all beat the traffic.

Okay. All right. Whoa, whoa, whoa,. Y'all beat the traffic. Okay. All right. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. These tight streets down there. I was trying to find you. Yeah, there was this thing going on. It was a meeting.

Yeah, there was a thing going on. Don't you worry about it. It seems like every time you come, those meetings come a little bit sooner every single time. Let's talk about your cast around you. Obviously, we just talked about Nico there. I think he's week to week with a hamstring, and then Mixon was banged up a little bit. Dalton Schultz was banged up a little bit.

Have you had the full cast yet, and how do you feel about the offense this year versus last year? Yeah, I mean, week one was probably the only time we had everybody. You know, it's kind of what I learned last year is you don't really get to play with your starters all the time. You know, you have to find ways of winning this league, you know, sometimes without some of your best guys. And, I mean, I think that's a testament to, like,

who you are as a quarterback or who you are as a player. And I challenge myself when that happens to just, you know, how good can I be today to take a little bit of slack or take a little bit of pressure off the guy who's filling in the starter's position to get another win? I feel like that was something I learned last year. But as time goes, you get guys back, other guys get hurt. It's kind of just what – football thing is – the worst thing about it is injuries.

So you've got to be able to do it and you know take each step each and every day to better yourself so you can better guys around you so um you know i definitely feel like once we do get a lot of our guys back because we we've been missing them for about two three weeks now um and guys are in and out some guys you know are week to week now but uh as as you see man we're still finding ways to win which is the most important thing but um you know definitely wish those guys were healthy, and now they'll be back soon. Next Colts game, you guys should just take off.

Yeah. Be cool. Yeah. Just take it off. Just say, yeah. It's a couple of bye weeks. Long season. Everybody say 17 games.

Long season. You deserve two bye weeks. I mean, if it's the last game, they might not have to play anyways. All right. It's not. Come on. Okay.

Enough of what you're saying. Joey Flacco and Banana CJ. I don't know if you not have to play anyways. All right. It's not. Okay. Enough of what you're saying. Joey Flacco and Banana CJ. I don't know if you know that. Connor has. No, he looks good. Okay. Listen, the way, you know, like the whole thing. I like Joe.

He played good at the Stroud House. I like Ant, too. Ant balled against us, man. I'd love to see it. I don't, you know, like, of course not against us, but, you know, Ant's been playing some good ball. There are divisional opponents, and I think

our rivals. I'm not somebody who just doesn't respect good ball. When I see it, you guys are playing some good ball, y'all. Thank you. That's very kind of you. I respect good ball when I see it. Thank you. And for that, you should take the game

off against us. That'd be awesome. That'd be very cool. That'd be very good leadership of you. Conman has a question for you, CJ. The Colts just shouldn't have to play in Jacksonville, but CJ, looking at a week-to-week basis for you, for preparation-wise, does D'Amico help with

assessing what a defense is going to do on a week-to-week basis against you? Because, you know, looking back with Tom and Bill Belichick, they would have weekly meetings and Bill would just tell Tom, like, hey, this is what they're going to try and do. This is what they usually like to do, their tendencies and things of that nature. Do you do that with D'Amico or are you typically just working with Bobby

and sticking to the plan that he puts together for you guys? He's very frozen. He's been frozen since halfway through your answer. You powered through that very well. I wasn't even looking. With Bobby, but... Did y'all hear me? You had no service down there, CJ.

I mean, you sat me off. You there? Ah. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, I'll see what's going on. This is the deal. As soon as we start talking about the Colts, he starts complimenting the Colts.

All of a sudden, they start shutting it down down there. Hey, if you – What's that all about? If you're not pushing Joe Flacco, then I don't think the internet wants to hear your shit. And just real quick, though, the internet did just shut him down in the middle of that. Don't love that.

Hope everything's okay down there in Houston. Still down. Still down, I believe. What's up? Are they trying to get us? I don't know. Who, the Colts? Yeah.

Texans. Just for everybody's understanding, Jim Irsay cleared the air. When C.J. Stroud potentially goes real loud in there and Ben Roethlisberger says, this sounds like fake loud in here. And then Bill Belichick goes on to Manningcast and goes, oh, like when you guys were fake loud in the RCA,

Jim Irsay cleared the air. There has never been any piped in noise in Indianapolis, India. Reminder, piped in crowd noise, myth, 1,000% fictional, and the skip was on the TV broadcast. We get it, though. Visiting teams couldn't believe that 60,000 in an intimate dome stadium could make that much deafening noise. Credit to the Colts fans.

Thank you, Jim, for clarifying all of that. It's just Colts fans allowed, brother. It's been a lot. There's a lot. It's been a lot. That's not true. I mean, it's not true whatsoever. It's been a lot. There's a lot. It's been a lot. That's not true. I mean, it's not true whatsoever. It has been proven that they have pumped in.

That's on record, brother. Jim Hersey just twiddled it. Hey, look, you can't believe everything you see on X, especially not these days when we're talking about things coming out. Seeing a lot on X. Yes. A lot. Oil boy.

Are we ever. It's not all bad. You see what happened to Verizon in 18? All right. Okay. Oh boy. Are we ever, you see what happened to Verizon in 18? Everybody's certainly in a situation right now, but we are currently battling a connection with CJ Stroud, obviously friend of the program, phenomenal football player for the Houston Texans. Since he got to Houston Texans, I've been very publicly open about getting him out of the AFC South. This is unfair. He's not allowed to be in here. Why is he this good? Then he would go on to have the greatest season in the history

of rookie quarterbacks for the NFL. And, D-Butch, you were about to ask about Jaden Daniels. I cannot wait to get his take on it because these guys in back-to-back years doing things that rookies aren't normally able to do, able to understand what a defense does, understand where to put the ball, get the ball out on time and in rhythm, not turn it over, not take big hits, and lead a team as a 22-year-old whenever you got grown-ass men around the locker room. What C.J. Stroud did last year for Houston was insane.

Now they're 4-1 looking to back it up again. They got a guy down there. Absolutely. I mean, they are the outliers. They get into a conversation. Obviously, C.J. last year, Jaden Daniels this year. Not only, hey, this is great or good rookie quarterback play, just good quarterback play, period.

CJ Stroud was like that last year, should have been in the MVP conversation. I think Jaden is there this year. And everybody knows all these quarterbacks that go in the top of the draft are typically superstars in the college level. But it's a completely different ball game when you're playing in the NFL. And week to week, CJ's talking about it now. Guys are switching it up. Defensive coordinators are switching it up defensive coordinators switching up players are switching it up trying to take away those big plays make you go the long hard way uh more times than not and uh so he's

adjusting it's still great always makes the big play in the right decision in the biggest moments I'm excited to hear about him and Stephon Diggs's relationship as we continue to try to connect it because him leaving from Buffalo going down to to Houston, on the football field, big deal. He had two touchdowns against us in week one, obviously. I think it was only like 40 yards or whatever, but he had two touchdowns. Seemingly just an added weapon for CJ. I guess he's enjoying Houston a lot.

Yeah, big time. How's CJ? Almost two months. You're an ex-one. Maybe not big enough. I think he's enjoying the weather. I think he's enjoying the weather, yeah. I think he is enjoying the fashion. Weather's probably part of it.

I think there's a lot of things that are part of it. He's having a blast seemingly right at home down there. Yep. He's just right at home down there. Really enjoy the music. Having time. Good fashion. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, once again,

is a man who is going to win multiple MVPs when it's all said and done. Seemingly already playing at a Hall of Fame level. Second-year quarterback for the Houston Texans, C.J. Stroup. Yeah, C.J. C.J., good to see you. Got a boost mobile over here. Hey, from what I've been told, that boost actually in a good spot because of potential other hacking going on.

Nonetheless, we don't need to dive too far into that. Thank you for joining us. We thought there was a chance they cut it down because you complimented Colts, which we appreciate. Okay, we do appreciate that. But back to what Connor was asking you. Do you and D'Amico sit down and chit-chat about defenses and what they're probably going to try

to do against you like Bill Belichick and Tom Brady did? Or do you stay on the offensive side of this entire thing? Yeah, I mean, me and Bobby usually meet before the week and go over the defenses and what we expect to see. But, you know, D'Amico will give me little nuggets here and there on, you know, just philosophy on what they're trying to do.

And also just like certain plays on like what to look for. So, you know, he definitely helps me, you know, see what like the big picture of that style of defense we play throughout that week because I mean he's been a coordinator in this league for a long time so yes it's a little bit of both. How's D'Amico this year second year head coach as opposed to first now obviously you will say you don't know what other coaches are like around the NFL you've only been in the NFL for two years because you say everything right all the time which is why they need to trade you out of the AFC South okay but what have you seen from Coach D'Amico this year versus last year? And how do you think teams responding here in his second year as head coach?

Yeah, I think, you know, teams know how dangerous we can be. And, you know, they try to challenge us in many different ways. But I think D'Amico's done a good job of, you know, just keeping us motivated to, you know, understand that we have a target on our back, but I think D'Amico's done a good job of just keeping us motivated to understand that we have a target on our back, but at the same time, just accept it and embrace it. Fire, fire, we're fire. I definitely think that we've been able to do that,

but honestly, we haven't been able to play our best ball yet, and that's kind of a good thing because we're sitting here four-on-one, not playing our best ball yet, and I think now, every single game, we're taking steps to play that four-quarter game, so I definitely see just a lot not played our best ball yet. And, you know, I think now every single game we're taking steps to that, play that four-quarter game.

So, you know, I definitely see, you know, just a lot of things going on the Uprisers. Yeah, of course. Four and one haven't played good football yet. Ooh. Yikes. Houston Texans are supposed to suck forever, brother. Okay, that was what was supposed to happen.

Not anymore. You know it. You know it. You know it. You know it. Everybody in the back knows it. And then this guy shows up with D'Amico, and it's all flipped on its head immediately overnight.

And that's good for the city of Houston. Good football fans out here. How's the crowd been? Crowd's been insane? Yeah, it's been cool. Last game was like a playoff game. It was pretty nice. You know, 12 o'clock game is a little different in Houston

because, you know, there's a lot to do out here. So we really don't get nobody until, like, first quarter. But the people who come early, thank you. Appreciate it. But it's all love, though. It's been loud, though. It's been really loud. Like, the Bears game was amazing.

It felt like a playoff game. The last game felt like a playoff game. So, you know, it's a one-off prize. Yeah, there's a lot to do down there in Houston. That's why what you were able to do as a rookie down there without being distracted is insane. There's another rookie coming, though. D-Bot's got a question for you.

Yeah, CJ, you were kind of that outlier last year coming in as a rookie, just being dynamic, picking up. I got a question for you. Like, what was the biggest challenge for you coming in from college, obviously being a superstar at the college level, and then being the face of a franchise in the NFL handling that week to week and then what's your thoughts on Jaden Daniels and how he's performing early on in his rookie season? Yeah I would say one of the biggest challenges is you know just finding your niche and finding

like how you were so successful in college and now putting that to the league. Cause the game really don't change. It's just a little nuances here and there. But honestly, I feel like once I got comfortable, once I got confident is when I started playing really well. So I can see that with Jaden, but you know,

he hit the ground running from week one. So, you know, I'm super proud of him. Talk to him almost every week. And, you know, it was really just,

you know, just a fan of his and what he's been able to do these last couple of weeks. And, you know, I'm super proud of him. Talk to him almost every week. And, you know, just really just, you know, just a fan of his and what he's been able to do these last couple weeks. And, you know, he's just getting warmed up. So, you know, I hope that he continues to, you know, just stay at it, stay hungry. And I know he will just because that's his personality. But, you know, two young IE kids from the same area, you know, just making plays, living out our dreams.

So it's just a blessing. It's just a testament to, like, man, you put your heart to something, you know, just making plays, living out our dreams. So it's just a blessing. It's just a testament to, like, man, you put your heart to something, you can really do it. And, you know, it's not too hard for anybody because, you know, we're the ones that made it. And we come from really similar situations. So, you know, I'm just super proud of him. Root him on every week and, you know, really hope that, you know,

people see his value because, you know, last year I felt like since I was a rookie, people just kept throwing the rookie tag on me like, no. Then one year I just said it like, no, it's just good quarterback play. Yeah. Point of play period. So I hope people can see that. I like that you felt disrespected by people saying, this is the greatest rookie season of all time.

Rookie. Can we just talk about me as a quarterback as a whole? And I'll tell you what, right now everybody's doing that with C.J. Stroud. We can't thank you enough for joining us on this glorious Tuesday. What do you got the rest of the day? Man, I'm about to chill, watch movies, try to get my mind off the game for a little bit. It's cool.

You going to text Caleb Williams? You know, you talk about... All right, okay. You're the man. You're the man. Have you guys talked since then? No. You know, I wish him you guys talked since then? No. You know, I wish him.

He played. He balled out last week. I'm happy for him, man. That's dope. Seems like he's getting his niche and his groove. Hell yeah. Happy to hear that. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's going to be up for MVPs every single year from now

until seemingly 2040. Ladies and gentlemen, CJ Stroud. Thank you, man. CJ. All right, CJ.J. Stroud. Thank you, man. C.J. All right, C.J. All right, C.J. I haven't talked to Caleb, he says. Busy season.

You know, young quarterback. You talked to him that one time. A lot going on. Talks to Jaden every week. A lot going on. Well, they come from the same. Yeah, I mean, it's a very situation for situation. They're both number two overall.

And Caleb's balling. So Caleb's figured it out up there, which is what Caleb wanted to say. Excuse me. Can I get a couple weeks? I'm going to figure it out. All right. I don't need you telling me how to do this entire thing, CJ. CJ's just like, I'm just trying to be nice.

This is what people did to me last year. I'm just trying to kind of pass the baton here. All right. I get it. We'll keep it moving. I love CJ Stroud. Yeah, the man. I don't like that he's in the AFC South.

I don't like that it used to be the Colts division, and now it is clearly the Houston Texans division. When you say it used to be the Colts division, what was that? Forever. They won the division forever ago? No, it happened. Because you say it used to be like it was five years ago. Yeah, well, years, you know, a day becomes a week,

a week becomes a month, a month becomes a season, a season becomes a year, and then all of a sudden you're a week, a week becomes a month, a month becomes a season, a season becomes a year, and then all of a sudden you're a decade down the road. And it's a whole new world. And if you're the Houston Texans, you go back a decade ago, five years ago, four years ago, there's no way you thought that what is happening would happen. When Deshaun Watson said, hey, you know what?

I would like to be traded. Get me the hell out of here. And they had an FCA guy who, once again, we are Jack Easterby people. He's trying to spread the good word. But he was a – I don't know him as well. I am. I don't know. Are you?

I don't know. But that place was a full-on shit show, every part of it, how they run the team, how the players are playing, how they show up, how the season goes, fans even losing interest down there. I mean, it was like all faith was lost by everybody in the Texans organization. And then all of a sudden you get the right head coach, you get the right quarterback, you get a culture change with Casario coming in and doing things.

It's like they're all the way back, brother. They're absolutely rolling. And I couldn't be more happy for those Houston Texans fans because back whenever it was, our division. Good day. Those were good days. And every time we played the Texans, it was big division. Good days. Those were good days. And every time we played the Texans, it was big nights. Big nights.

And that was the loudest stadium I'd ever played in. Those were the most absurd fans I've ever... A lot of dressed, a lot of costume fans. We're talking a lot of... They love the face paint. Face paint. A lot of... We're talking committed. So now they got a guy for the next 15, 20 years that is going to lead them down there.

Good for them. They deserve it. Now, on the flip side, Anthony Richardson is also a guy for the next 15 years. See that first drive against the Steelers? Absolutely. Right down the field. I didn't see it, actually, because I was coming down from the anvil. I still don't know what happened.

We scored a touchdown. It should have been an interception. Joey Porter actually read it too well in AR. He did that on purpose. Threw it too well. He did that on purpose. You're talking about back shoulder, brother? No.

Just know that Flacco's the guy. Okay, so let's talk a little bit more about this Salah stuff here. What's next? Can we pull up the Jets' schedule? What is happening? They got Monday Night Football. Against the Bills. Against the Bills, which is going to be tough.

First place, right? If they win, they would hold the tiebreaker. AFC East, Wido. Tried to warn you. Jets could still have a home playoff game at the end of this entire thing. They're scheduled. They got the Bills Monday Night Football.

The Buffalo Bills fresh off a bad game against Houston Texans, obviously. Don't want to play a good team after a bad game, but that's what's going to happen here for the New York Jets on Monday Night Football, primetime, everybody watching. Holy shit. Imagine all of those conversations that are about to happen on Monday Night Football. Primetime is like all eyes on this team.

We got think pieces coming out about this. We got sit-down interviews coming out about this team. We're going to learn everything from their new practices with Ulbrich, from the new way he's talking, the team meetings, the attitudes of the players. How's Garrett Wilson feel about new leadership? How's his defense? How's Quentin Williams?

He's been tight with Sala. How's he feel about a new coach coming in here? Do they have trust and faith in the Jets organization as a whole as opposed to just Coach Sala? We find out for the next three hours as this Monday night countdown is about the Jets potentially falling all over themselves with a Mount Rushmore quarterback at the helm. Then they have the

Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh. Okay? NBC, that's Sunday night football? Sunday night football. So you got Monday night football into Sunday night football into the New England Patriots week eight. So for the next two weeks, all eyes, primetime game, are on this organization. They're on this team every decision they make.

That is not a great time to be under a microscope, but you could see it as an opportunity. Could reshape your whole culture here publicly over the next two weeks with all eyes on the Jets. It's definitely an opportunity because the Bills, you're going to get the interim bump, okay, and that's a good team to get the interim bump against. And then the Steelers and the Patriots, if you score, I don't know, 13, 14 points,

you're probably going to win those games. Well, that's kind of what the Jets are saying, right? Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, if they score 14, right? Yeah, it's the 17-point thing. The conversation with the Jets, I guess, offensively have been at the bottom. Ish. Through Salah's entire tenure.

Yes. And then defensively, they've been top five the entire time, which is why you bring Aaron Rodgers in, have a good offense, seemingly should be able to link up with a good defense, and then whenever football matters, we're playing our best football. Instead, week five, we don't even get a chance to see November or December football with Salah and Aaron Rodgers together, which is wild.

Jets fans happy for change, I think. Most, if not all, are happy with it. But they got a week 11 Colts. Good luck. Sunday Night Football? Yeah, look at that. More than half of their next games are all prog time. Monday Night Football, Bills.

Sunday Night Football, Steelers. Thursday Night Football, Texans. They're all disheveled. At home. Fireman Ed's going to be here. Yeah, and Fireman Ed will be getting the boys going. Fireman Ed coming out. I've heard he's going to rock his bald head.

Oh, what? Not the thing. He's going to paint it? No, he's going to wear the thing, too. Tribute to Sala. Oh, I like that. That's cool. Yeah, he's going to just use his bald head.

Nice. I mean, with all those. He's going to have his arms like this. Paint his beard. Yeah, paint his beard on. All those slow starts under Sala, you might wonder about Fireman Ed and what he's bringing to the table a little bit as well. Oh, that's interesting.

Everybody under the microscope. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I like that. Hey, I mean, so many penalties. Is he not getting them quiet? I get very confused about when he knows when to do all of them. It's an art. It is.

It's a feel thing. Feel it in your plums. He senses it. I do want, let's call Jet Superfamilies. I thought you were going to say Fireman Ed. I thought you were going to say Fireman Ed, yeah. I mean, I don't know if I have his number. Maybe he uses the clock.

You know how they have that clock on the field? I don't have Fireman Ed. I do have Fireman the song, though, in my phone. I just really. Shout out. Yeah, let's call Fireman Ed. Cold call Fireman Ed. Just see how he's doing right now that's good this might be fighting fire good idea well he might be he might be running towards fire but hopefully uh he'll

be able to put the fire out faster than anybody and this is the pms difference yeah we're cold calling fireman ed right now this is true cold call we should just cold call all the biggest jets fans that we know in the next that's what I was thinking about doing. Farmer Ed, FaceTime, FaceTime. Got Green. Come on, Eddie. Need you here, Farmer. Let's go, Gary V. Yep.

Farmer is in Woody Johnson's office right now. He might be the next head coach. Maybe. Holy shit. I'm FaceTiming Gary V here. We got a Farmer Ed. I mean, if we're talking head coaches to get the boys going, Gary Vee, look no further.

You think there's any chance he answers this? Nah, he's probably busy. I haven't talked to Gary Vee in a long time. He's too busy grinding. Yeah, I was going to say. Does he know that they fired Coach Sala? Not yet. No way.

He probably made the decision. He made the call. Go ahead. Still at his view on all hands. He called Woody. On their way back from London, he called Woody. He said, I can't do this shit. Woody Johnson pulled out the fire firefly on Robert Sala out of nowhere?

I hope not. That is – No answer from Gary Vee. Okay. Let's go to Michael Cole now. Yeah. See how they're doing. Are they in full panic?

Are they happy? They're in the dumps right now. I think they're mostly happy, but it is like a bit of a convoluted confusion where it's like, this is Aaron Rodgers' team. Aaron Rodgers is running this organization. But also, Bob solves the problem. We got to get rid of him, and it's going to solve

everything. Yeah, it seems like there's mixed reactions and thoughts. Hackett really dodged us all. Jets, we know Hackett's safe. No answer from any of the Jets fans. Look at them all tucking their tails. That's bunker mentality.

I mean, it goes back to what Lambeau said, too, last year about how Look at them all tucking their tails. That's bunker mentality. I like it. It goes back to what Lambeau said too last year about how they punted on last year so this entire year is strictly like, hey Aaron, if you don't get this done then we're not going to fire you but someone's getting their ass caned. Heads will roll. I'm FaceTiming

Fireman Ed right now. Just doesn't have my number saved either. Could you imagine Fireman Ed answer a random call? Sir, Fire? Yeah. Where? Where do you need me? You got a five alarm?

All right, let's go through some other stuff. Taylor Swift was at the game last night. Oh, yeah. Shuts everybody up, right? Yeah, it does. And Greeny. Oh, good call. Especially the after game video that Tom showed us.

Shuts everybody up. Hey, they were sucking face up in that suite. Taylor and Travis were sucking face after that game, hanging around in front of Ed Kelsey in the suite, which I appreciate, hanging around afterwards, let everybody clear out, let's not hit the traffic, we're good. And they were hugging and smooching all over each other afterwards. I don't know if anybody else saw it, but the internet was abuzz

because Travis and Taylor were allegedly not together anymore. And then what? Oh, the dates passed? And then what? Yeah. Yeah, they're still in love, okay? Maybe she's working. Maybe she's not able just to show up to every single primetime game

because maybe she's writing a whole new album. Oh. A new era. You also have to assume that all the sweets for any Chiefs game probably sold out even though she could probably just take whichever one she wanted these Jets fans have gone to ice cold yeah this is greenie right here are you kidding me wow greenie what's he doing maybe they're all maybe all these guys that we're calling are in the uh meeting with Woody Johnson right now one jet strike drawing up a new offense There could be. I mean, Woody could have called in a group of celebrity fans of Jets

and say, what are your guys' thoughts? Who do you think we should go with? How do you think this should go? And then maybe Gary Vee's in the middle of laying out how the Jets win the Super Bowl this year. And maybe Aaron Rodgers is sitting there listening to Gary Vee telling him what he needs to do. Maybe Woody Johnson is telling them all what needs to happen.

And maybe there's a team meeting happening in a matter of moments. And we shall hear. Probably from that because Schefter knew within minutes that the firing happened. So that tells you a couple things. A couple things. There is a close plug in that building. Is there a close plug in every building?

At this point, I think so. I believe so. Absolutely. I don't think it was like that when we were playing, but I feel like... And do you need one in your building to get your message out? Like, I view You know, the way it's kind of viewed Rat in your building Rat in your building Rat in your building, okay

Don't want a rat in your building Want to get rid of all rats in buildings That is very true But then it seems like every building has a rat. And then, just like the depotted, sometimes you learn that the rat is actually at the very top of this thing. And they're the ones actually that

are guiding the narrative in this entire thing, while also coming out and saying, we don't want any rats in this building. Nobody do it. It's an interesting game, because Schefter has to have information, has to have plugs. But I assume everybody in the building doesn't love that there's that many rats, or do they at this point? I don't know how the game works.

You see it a lot. You see things being played out in the public eye, especially like negotiation. Players are trying to get deals, league, things like that, put out certain narratives about certain players, even players as well. They put their narrative out as well to the insides. Once again, I don't like it. I'm not a fan of it.

I'm still kind of old school. What you see here and whatever here stays here, I like that. But that's definitely a new wave right now. Everybody's got a guy. Speaking of new wave, the NFL Players Union is pushing for no more locker room interviews. Oh, yes. Okay? And old buddy for Cincinnati.

Jamar? No. Ted Karras. Our guy, Ted Karras, came out and spoke about it because he is a representative for the Cincinnati Bengals. He basically came out and said, we have massive respect for journalists. We really do. We would just like the sanctity of the locker

room to remain a thing. So now Jamar Chase is doing a press conference instead of an interview at his locker in a locker room. He'll be doing a news conference, press conference, which I think a lot of people in Cincinnati were alarmed by, that Jamar Chase was holding a press conference. I think he's just doing his interview at the podium instead of in a locker room.

Austin Eckler, I believe, also doing the same thing. He'll be doing the meeting with the press at a podium as opposed to in the locker room. Austin Eckler, I believe, also doing the same thing. He'll be doing the meeting with the press at a podium as opposed to in the locker room. I think this is a move by players to try to get the locker room cleared out a little bit of journalists. Now, journalists are a very vital part of the NFL. There is full meetings

before the season, during the season, after the season, talking about how important media is to covering the game, for fans to get a sense of relatability to the players, to follow along with the team that they love so much through these media outlets that are assigned the beat, the task of following one team forever. But players have always been a little bit questionable

or questioning of how much time they're in there, what they're allowed to do, how they're allowed to do it. You got dudes that are naked walking around. You got sensitive stuff going on. You got hangout time happening. And then obviously the media who is good people. Most of them. Most of them.

Not all of them. We know that. Everybody knows that. But most of them good people trying to do their job. But the people that aren't great trying to do a job, trying to pull things get things at the locker eavesdrop into conversations i mean it's just like uh players have long been trying to do this feels like with jamar and eckler and other people maybe the time is going to come for it to happen it is yeah and gotta get some of those weird uh meat watches out of that locker room what's that yeah you gotta get them out there

you know what i mean. Do your own research. What do you mean? You say it's Capcoys? Someone's bringing like hamburgers? It's like weight watchers. There you go. You guys got hamburgers. We weren't in the NFL.

Those Jerry Jones. Oh, you're talking kielbasa and hot dogs. But to your point, they are very important, especially like. Talk about people looking at people's faces. What? Yeah, I think that's what he's looking at. You talking about a dog watching? Not everybody. It's some weird

shit that goes. Like I said, it is an intimate setting, but you need it. We do have that cool off time after, whether it's practices before or after practices or games more specifically, but guys are fired up. But I think it's important to get those post-game reactions from players.

And everybody doesn't go to the podium and do a press conference. And for the local beat writers, they have a job to do. It's fans that follow the Patriots, the Giants, whoever these teams are really close to. You want kind of day-to-day, how did this guy practice? Is he healthy? Is he this? So you need that access. I think it is very, very important. So I'm not, honestly,

I'm not a fan of taking reporters out of the locker room. I think that is a place that they should be. You get, even like the post-game stuff. Post-game, 15 minutes after the game, like, I want to hear from certain players. And, you know, we got a job to do as well, so I think it helps us. Yeah, I heard some media person

chit-chatting about, if we don't, if we don't end there, how do we build up the relationship to be able to tell the story accurately? You know, like, they were talking about during COVID how it was a lot of Zoom things, and it was like, go look back and what that was like. And the media person also said, the players experience the Zoom stuff, and we're like,

this is what we need to do. I assume there'll be a meeting in the middle, and I think some teams have a much more open locker room than other teams. I think there's a standard for the amount of times each person has to talk. I think coordinators have to speak once a week out in the hallway. Normally they do it. Players have to be available, I think, for 15 minutes to meet you in the locker room at least once throughout the week.

I think they have to be available or whatever. But, you know, can you move that to a spot? Yeah. Yeah, just right outside. Yeah, you know, can you do that during the week? And then game day, after games, locker room already has cameras, TV cameras in it and everything. I think that's a little bit more of an open spot.

I'm indifferent about it completely. I didn't talk to the media really ever, so I'm okay with how it goes. But you can see how some guys would potentially not want, you know. Yeah, most guys, most players you want to keep it as, you know, much football but like, you don't want to do like, but that is a part of it, you know. That's why it's so big.

That's why players make so much money because you know, that's what we talk about every day for hours. Like, it's that important. It's that big. And if you are a local beat, right, that's kind of like your edge compared to the national, right? We have a national game. Now everybody's going to come in.

All the big wigs are going to come in and get that access. But if you're air-grinded, you know, the Mark Caboles of the world that's in Pittsburgh, you know, day in and day out, that is how you build those relationships. And I had good relationships in all the different locker rooms that I was in with the different, you know, local reporters. And they got a tough job to do, you know, honestly. So getting that access, building good relationships,

not being assholes, not being rats, because you are privy to a lot of things that other people aren't. So, I mean, I'm kind of on the side of reporters here. And I know players, when you're in that spot, you feel like, hey, I'm going to keep it football. Do keep that stuff as minimal as possible. But those people got a job. As a Fizz member, you can look forward to

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And joining us live from Manatee, Ohio, is a man who's going to have a lot of opinions, a lot of thoughts on what's going on right now over there in New York. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football national champion. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a Ryder Cup winner. He's A.J. Hawk. Yeah, Hawk.

A.J., you and Aaron Rodgers walked into Woody Johnson's office and said, we're not doing it anymore unless you fire Robert Sala. Is that what happened, or how do you think we got to this point after week five for Coach Sala? Yeah, I don't think that's exactly how it happens. I don't think

Aaron was walking into anybody's office demanding anything after that London trip, but I think everybody seems to be a bit surprised by this. Did you guys see? Did someone on the internet get me when they claimed that Sala had to be escorted out by security? Yeah, I saw that post as well. I'm not 100% sure if it was legit. I just read the words.

It was Florio because he didn't know. Yeah, it was Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio. Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, he said that Gase did not have security escorting him off the premise whenever he was like Coach Sala. Maybe it's because Coach Sala's jacked. Yeah, true. And they were just nervous. Maybe Woody Johnson was like, he's weak. I mean, Gase's eyes would be pretty terrifying, too.

Pro Football Talk Mike Florio tweeting, Jets coach Robert Sala was escorted out of the building by the team's director of security. His predecessor, Adam Gase was not. Well, he might have been buddies with the director of security. Maybe it was one last walk. Yeah. Let's stop

and look at this photo that we always looked at. I don't think so. Wait, why not? Yeah, come on. Keep it moving. One foot in front. Hey, imagine how pissed you'd be, though, Pat, if you were getting fired and all of a sudden the security guy is standing there and he's like, and you're thinking, hey, can I get, I'm good, buddy. I'll go grab my stuff and get out of here. He's like, no, I'm told to.

I'm not letting you out of my sight. I got to get you out of here. I already got your stuff. I could see you needing security after that because that would piss you off. What do you think I'm going to do? That's pretty disrespectful, yeah. I mean, it happens to players a lot. Whenever players get cut, their fob

is turned off and they're going back up the morning they get cut to maybe go grab something out of the locker room and then it doesn't open. It turns red. And then my stuff's in there like, we'll ship it to you. And you get a garbage bag worth of shit on the way out, delivered to your front door in a box that's

looks like Ace Ventura, Pet Detective had just delivered that thing. That has happened to people, I believe. It's cold, cold, cold league. I mean, that is how it goes. But if Sala wasn't able to go to his office, because the report is that Sala was gobsmacked by this.

He was certainly surprised. He just came out and I know I was blindsided. I'm looking this way, guy comes this way, tells me I'm fired, I'm out of here. So he definitely didn't have his shit organized in his office, right, to move out. No chance of getting ready for the day. Been there for four years. He's got a lot of shit in there. You know, a lot of stuff just kind of adds up.

I assume he's got everything organized, but just throughout the shelves. So as soon as he gets told by what he's fired, he's like, week five. All right. Hey, I'll go get my shit by Woody, he's fired. Week five. All right. Hey, I'll go get my shit. No, you won't. Okay. Who's going to get my shit? We got it.

Actually, it's our shit now. Yeah. It's our. It's our shit. What about my desk? I love my desk. I brought it from San Francisco. It's our desk.

Shut up. We already lit on fire. What about the photos of my daughter and kids? Light on fire. It's all gone. Yeah. What about the photos of my daughter and kids? Light on fire. It's all gone. Sorry about it. My kid drew a drawing just for me. Woody actually has his kids drawing now.

So sorry about it. That's kind of how it goes. Yeah, that's potentially what went down this morning with Coach Sala. And that's wild to think about after a week five loss. We could absolutely go back to last year's Hard Knocks and get a layout of his office if we pull a screen grab of that to actually see what his office looks like. As we do that and

look into more hard knocks scenes and photos and maybe pools of things, let's chit chat about the Chiefs. AJ, the Chiefs are still the Chiefs, pal. And last night, Travis Kelsey was the focal point of the offense, very apparent. And the Saints defense had no idea that was going to be the case. He was not only wide open on certain occasions,

seemingly drawing up plays for him to be open. He has yet to score a touchdown this season, but last night his impact was felt with the ball in his hands. And obviously he does the lateral mid-play to Pirine, who was perfectly lined up to pick up some more yardage on a once uh third in 22 which would then be it was i think it started as a second in like 34 or something like that then it was uh third and 22 then it became a fourth and one because of this lateral they would go on to pick it up it's like whenever things like that are happening for you during serieses or drives you know seemingly good things

are going to happen for the rest of the game for you. They get a massive win. The Saints make it close. Derek Carr ends up getting hurt at the end. We see young gunslinger Jake Hayner. I mean, he's got epoxy. Athletic, man. Very athletic. We're talking submarine ball to Kamara.

Kamara doesn't catch it, obviously, but it looks nasty. We're talking absolute dart to Alave down the sideline. Alave does not catch it or make the play, but I think they're pretty comfortable with all the quarterbacks they have down there, or the quarterbacks down there are very comfortable. What was your takeaway last night from the game? Is it that the Chiefs finally play full game here? Chiefs look great again, and is that only because Travis Kelsey got the ball more?

Is that why we all did it? They went to Travis Early and a couple of them were like okay It looks like Trav just found some open space And bam he sat down and Mahomes is obviously On the same page with him all the time and right here Was ridiculous to see how open he was That was a nice little shot he took on his knee

I was worried for a second he was going to get up limping Honestly that was a great tackle Me as well that was a thump That was a very solid shot. You know, felt like it was a clean shot on a knee, too. And I'm not going to say he's an old man, but he is older. He gets up from that. There was also a shot to his shoulder, I think,

that he got up and had a little bit of a grimace, too. I wonder how he's feeling today. Obviously, he and Taylor were sucking face after that game. And this sweet AJ, I don't know if you saw that, but is this the best we've seen the Chiefs, you think? And is this the team that we all thought they were going to be at this moment? Yeah, I think so. I think Kareem Hunt, watching him work is fun, man. That guy wears on defenses. I think how, it's just fun to watch how hard he runs when he gets the ball out of the backfield,

whatever he's doing. Man, look at Kelsey. He can still route people up, obviously. Yeah. Gotta feel pretty good about that. What a route, man. Yeah, you say route. Whenever you say route people up, obviously. Yeah. Gotta feel pretty good about that. What a route, man. Yeah, he still got it. Whenever you say route somebody up, that's awesome to hear. I think Prime said that or Ocho said that to Prime last week, and I think a lot of people were introduced to that being a shit-talking version

of the sport that you could do. What Travis Kelsey just did there was route the shit out of somebody. He shakes them, thinks he's going in, goes out, and then he step, boom. Then he hits them with a little one-two step cutback in the middle of it. Travis Kelsey felt like a young man last night. Still got it. Is that because Taylor was in the building? You know, that's Travis.

That's Travis Kelsey football. We said at some point he'll get rolling. Patrick Mahomes will start going to him again. Obviously, Rice is gone, so you think, okay, no Rice, no Pacheco. How do you adjust? Patrick Mahomes comes out and has his best game of the year, over 330 yards. That's a good defense.

That's a damn good defense to kind of carve up the way he did. Juju Smith-Schuster kind of found his old form, went for a buck 30, didn't look anything like he looked in that Patriots uniform. Obviously comfortable with the system, comfortable with the quarterback, comfortable with the offense, finding gaps all night long. Made some tough catches, too. So, I think Juju will continue to have a bigger role as this season goes on. He had a hit bobble.

You know, tips and overthrows. An absolute dog of an athlete with the Saints who took it out of the end zone. Colin. Colin Sanders. This was unbelievable. So, I'm all over X last night. Striding. You hear Joe Buck go, and he's taking it out.

I was like, Joe Buck was so surprised. He started moving. His legs started getting up. No, obviously. He had played with the Chiefs before. His brother, I believe, is a backup dancer potentially for Taylor Swift. So the amount of things coming together for the universe there to save a touchdown, 16 points is how many the Chiefss at this moment 16 7 or something

like that they miss a kick and then also have this interception so it seemed like they were potentially you know football gods turning against them and then we see callan i believe is his name not kalen callan not kalen i believe is his uh ex account because adam schefter tweeted about him whenever he was going into the senior bowl this dude dude does backflips. This dude has – this was going into the senior bowl out of college, Western Illinois. I think they said, like, yeah. Bro. Okay.

Yeah, and here's standing. Oh. Oh, that's crazy. Okay, so when you do the roundoff backflip, obviously you're building up momentum, you know. So whenever you do this one, it's like, yeah, he's able to run, get his body weight, it's like, yeah, he's able to run, get his body weight, complete body control, bang, able to land on his feet,

not over-rotate because he's big or anything like that. This one is just pure explosion. Like just being able to stand there flat-footed. Now he rocked into it, so there would be some deduction of points in some particular ratings. But being able to stand there and do it, pure explosion. Obviously, he's a freak athlete and his hands were nasty so as soon as that ball got into his hands now knowing that he

has that capability there was no way he was giving that ball up no there's no way there was a toss to a corner coming there's no way he's taking a knee in the end zone getting his ball at the 20 i'm fumbling rumbling stumbling a hundred he thought he was going 100 yards for sure he thought he was going 100 yards for sure no he thought he was going 100 yards i wanted him to so bad that wasn't that wasn't easy catch you see dvs drop this this kind of tip of course a lot of dvs get it back in and no doubt as soon as he catch i'm going 102 i'm going 102 i'm out i'm out i text chuck right after this like hey chuck is he on that list you know because you know chuck has a list of guys that can take it out of his own

and guys that can't. Chuck said, no, hell no. He made it though. What? He got past the time. That's a little misread, I think, by Coach Chuck Pagano, who will be here on Thursday. Love to see the big guy get rewarded for his great work.

Anticipation being around the ball, good things happening. His agility, that first step. That first step to get that ball the reaction boom and then the one hand that thing and then snag it do your dance abram looking for the ball too potentially hey you want to nope all right that's like james harrison right there was like two different times during the james harrison return against the arizona cardinals where dbs or corners were like ah huh he's like get the hell off no way i'm goinguju could have scored a touchdown there and made a lot of people a lot of money. Yeah, that would have been really cool, really cool.

Going into the game, I was watching Monday Night Countdown. Scott Van Pelt was talking to Peyton and Eli, and Peyton said, you know, I'm expecting Juju Smith-Schuster to maybe get back to his form or play better for the Kansas City Chiefs. And I know, and I think we all do, and I think Peyton said on this show, he talks to the quarterbacks in those games that are playing 15 minutes. He said, if I can get 15 minutes, nothing more, I'd be very

thankful. So for him to go out on a limb and be like, I'm looking for Juju Smith-Schuster to kind of do it, I'm like, ooh, I think Peyton thinks Juju's about to have a night. I text Connor immediately, okay? Connor's been hitting these parlays. I go, hey, Peyton just said Juju Smith-Schuster. Peyton's not saying anything for no reason. You need to think about it.

Connor goes for touchdown instead of yards or amount of receptions parlay over, and he bobbles his way through there. He hit his over for the first four weeks combined, I think, last night. For sure. Still would have been nice. Juju, especially

when you're betting on the Chiefs, because of who Kelsey is, you assume those are the guys who are going to get you know the most eyes on them Kelsey worthy now even though they're running freaking read options with Travis Kelsey and Xavier worthy didn't know they had that in their bag but no I mean it was sweet to see old school Juju show up for the Chiefs and this just goes back to the Chiefs you know Rasheed Rice goes down next man up. Doesn't matter who Mahomes is throwing to. They're going to get guys open. Their offense is going to

look great, and no matter what, you can have a guy like Juju on any other team, and he can look like garbage, but if he goes back and plays with the Chiefs, no matter who it is, they're going to look awesome. It just reiterates the fact that the Chiefs are always going to be so good with Andy Reid and Mahomes.

Okay, let's pivot away from last night's Monday Night Football and Robert Sala being fired. Let's go back to a conversation we had in the first hour about the Players Union basically saying, hey, the media in the locker room, we need to change these guidelines a little bit. We need to do this. Jamar Chase is doing a podium meeting with the media this week on Thursday. Austin Eckler's doing the same thing as opposed to meeting in the locker room. Will that be what everybody does going forward? Joining

us now, two-time Super Bowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, dog for the Cincinnati Bengals. And the man that spoke up about this because he's part of the NFLPA board, I believe, Teddy Kersh. Yeah! How you doing, brother?

Thanks for having me on, guys. Hey, thank you for coming on and clarifying some things. I saw you speak. Great sense you have, by the way, raising money for the city while you're selling stuff, Teddy. Thank you very much.

You're a good dude, Teddy. I'm happy you drank that gallon of milk every single day your junior year of high school to get to this point, to be a professional football player. We need people like you in positions to make change let's talk about that change that's potentially happening right now you spoke about

it the NFLPA is pushing I think publicly for the first time that I know of to potentially change the way journalists and media are allowed to be in the locker room when they're allowed to be in the locker room what is the overall message here and how likely is it of happening you think Teddy you know I think it's going to be come down to a solidarity issue with the union and setting up the protocols per team. But this has been a conversation we've had since COVID really when they were out of the locker room. And this isn't an indictment against the PFWA or, you know, we're not looking to pick a fight with the media. This is just what, as an elected representative, the guys want. And we're, as elected officials,

beholden to respect our constituents' wishes. And guys want to feel more comfortable in the locker room. There's about 10 to 15 guys per week that get interviewed on a regular basis. And if we can move that outside of the locker room to somewhere close, I think it'll help the overall comfortability of everyone else. Okay, so that's kind of the plan here, is because we saw Jamar do it, I think it'll help the overall comfortability of everyone else. Okay, so that's kind of the

plan here is because we saw Jamar do it. I think Austin Eckler's doing it. We assume others will do it. Instead of doing this in the locker room where other people are potentially getting eavesdropped or potentially in the background saying things because that is their locker room, we just want more to happen as like press conference type things as

opposed to those happening. What about after games? Are you talking about after games in locker room convos too? What are your thoughts there? What are the messaging there? So the Stars will still go to the podium after games. I think it's going to be a little bit – I think we're going to have to do in the locker room at games as we work this out at least for now.

But the main focus of at least the protocol we're putting together in Cincinnati is Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, guys picking days to go to a designated spot where all the beat writers and all the local news and the national media can then do their five to 10 minute interview without encumbering, you know, cause I get a lot of interviews and my two locker mates, Alex Kappa and Cordell Bolson, you know, both can't access their locker as I'm getting interviewed by 20 people.

And so I just think it'll be a convenience factor, a comfortability factor, but it all comes down to, you know, these individual teams, you know, coming up with a good protocol and we got to work with the media. This isn't, you know, we're not trying to pick a fight. Like I said, we're just trying to kind of revamp the media procedure to open up the locker room a little bit more. Reimagine it in this post COVID world, because I assume what the media procedure to open up the locker room a little bit more. Reimagine it in this post-COVID world because I assume what the media

is saying is the players loved it during COVID because they just go to a Zoom call and they don't have to do anything. That affected our jobs, though, in getting no things. So, inevitably, you guys are going to meet in the middle. For you, it sounds like the way you want to meet in the middle is we will give access, obviously, at a place. Everybody can be there. You already do

interviews at that spot. You have your desk. After games, I think it's going to be tough for you to give up that, Ted, I think. After games in the locker room, I think that's going to be a tough one for you guys to give up. I think. I think. I think. Especially on road games. We're working through this. This is obviously a new thing.

I want to work closely with the PFWA. I want to reassure all the football writers that this isn't a excuse for players to duck out on their media obligations. You know, we're still required to be available to talk once a week, available every day, but talk once a week. And, you know, I think that our team, you know, we've already talked about it. I don't think we're going to have any problems with that. And I've already told our local media, if you do, just come to me and we'll set it straight.

But we want to make this as smooth as possible for everyone. Yeah, the locker room is, and you said the sanctity of the locker room, it is very real. But media covering the NFL, very important. So hopefully you guys are able to figure it out for the entire league. Connor has a question for you about it a little bit more. Yeah, Ted, we think it was in the new media deals, but one of the new things that has happened this year before prime times and some other games are

right before the game starts some of the player interviews and they also do some of it with the coaches as well what's the reaction been with that because i mean we talked about it before i think it was the bills jags game they were literally interviewing von miller while he was in the tunnel right before he was sprinting out through, you know, the smoke and everything. Has there been any conversations about that between the players around the league? You know, we're mostly focused on the, you know, locker rooms after practice right now, but that is a topic that's come up. And, you know, we understand that this is an entertainment

business overall, the NFL. So, you know, we're that this is an entertainment business overall, the NFL. So, you know, we're going to keep working through that. I personally think that's a little bit crazy. I would give a horrible interview right before. Everybody does. Everybody does. Yeah. Yeah.

But I'm in a different world. And so, you know, we're going to keep working through it. And again, you know, everyone's going to get their content. Whoa. So we don't want to scare anyone off from that. We just want to, like you said, reimagine the whole procedure. Okay. Well, hey, win some damn games over there, Teddy. Okay?

You're telling me, Pat. Win some damn games. Figure out how to operate the players in the media relationship for the rest of the league. Multiple billions of dollars, Teddy. Figure that out. Win some games and raise some money for the fine people of Cincinnati and back here in Indianapolis.

We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you guys for having me on. Teddy, how we feel? Body feel good? I'm feeling good, man. We're ready to roll, man. We got Sunday night football against the Giants. We need to put one in the left-hand column.

Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Teddy Kirst. Yeah, Teddy! AJ, what are your thoughts on everything you just said right there? He was very clear. Like, I'm not – I don't want to start a – listen. Yeah, I was going to pick a fight. This is just what we're trying to – we're trying to reimagine this thing

to make sure it's good for all parties because, you know, if we do this, maybe even more access from players or more likeliness of players being more open. I don't know if media is going to take it as positively as we might right here, AJ, but what are your thoughts on what he's laying down? I'm curious what the local media reaction has been when this idea has been presented to them because media loves to be able to come in the locker room because there's always people that are writers that they want one-on-one. They want to ask questions without other people pestering and jumping in and asking follow-ups or asking stuff for their story so if you can still do that just

in a different location like i don't know what you did in college in college there was never any media ever in our locker room but we would go walk right outside to our indoor facility for 15 or 30 minutes and you'd sit you'd stand around and that's where you'd have your open locker room i don't i don't know if everybody has a facility like that i guess guess you could, you know, at Green Bay, you're not going to bike down to the indoor to do your media stuff. You could find... Got a cafeteria or something though? Yeah, you could find an area, I would imagine, in most places. And obviously

everybody can't have a press conference, but you could still go out there and gather and have the same locker room situation, just not in the locker room. I didn't do much media at West Virginia, only one time. Missed two kicks, you know. It was a big night. Then I go out there and do media and I was asked the locker room. I didn't do much media at West Virginia, only one time. Missed two kicks, you know. It was a big night. And then I go out there and do media, and I was asked the first question, why are you on scholarship?

Okay. Really? You did media for Bill Stewart? Yeah. You asked a few questions. I was hosting a show there, yeah. I didn't do any interviews. You know, I was doing the question asking, yeah, one time. It was out in, like like Players Lounge area.

It's kind of where everybody hung out, which wouldn't make sense for the NFL. That wouldn't make sense. But then everybody, because I think the rules are players have to be available for a certain amount of minutes every single, every player has to be available or perceived to be available for a certain amount of time each week, you know, because all those things are little clauses in all these CBAs and everything. And I appreciate him saying numerous times, we don't want to start a war with – like, listen,

we understand how this is going. Just trying to get a deal. I wonder if it works. But then the request, it'll be, I guess, another step for the media and for, like, the Matt Contis and his staff of the world, like more work for them now because now you have to request the guys because, you know, a guy like Ted who's a rep, obviously a lot of people are going to want to talk to him,

quarterbacks, big time players, but you know, most of the players, they don't get bothered much. You may have a reporter come up to you and, hey, just off the record, let me ask you something. I wasn't a player that really gave my number, you know, to like reporters and stuff, so that was kind of their- You did a lot of anonymous polls though. Yeah, with the mean watchers.

Not one of those anonymous polls but uh yeah it'd be interesting to see i wonder how much pushback is going to come from the media side though because it we're all understanding but like for them it's like hey anytime you start restricting stuff meat watchers aren't gonna like this kaboli well i'm not putting kaboli into the and it's not the majority okay it's not to. We got to make sure that it's clear. A majority of all... I assume a majority of most professions. Good people. But there is...

Look at hockey, Pat. You've been in hockey. Hockey has a dressing room and then a locker room where... And reporters are not in the dressing room. They're right next door to where you go speak to them. Speaking of, congrats to hockey. It's happening. Here we go. Fully back. We had a game last week in Chechia.

This is also Czech Republic. But the actual NHL season drops the puck today, tonight. 4.30. St. Louis Blues take on a Seattle Kraken. Marshawn Lynch, minority

owner over there for the Kraken. The man's business is really doing well. Really, really good for Marshawn. Happy for him. Then you got the Bruins. And the Florida Panthers. That's a big one.

Seven o'clock tonight. Get on white. Watch that. What's that? Yeah, they're nice. They're nice, yeah. They are sweet. I saw Kachuk looking at it when it, they're nice. They're nice, yeah. They are sweet.

I saw Kachuk looking at it when it was on his hand, talking about how nice it was. And I just thought to myself, Kachuk can forever say he's a Stanley Cup champion. He'll never take it back. That's so cool. Bruins made it on there, too, I believe, right? Yeah, Bruins are on there. I mean, that's typically how rings work. Sweet.

Sweet. That's the first one you ask that. Are the Bruins the rats on there? No. I know. I was kidding. Freedom! Freedom.

That's awesome. Congrats to the Florida Panthers. Beautiful piece of jewelry. Their trek to defend Lord Stanley begins today as they take on the Boston Bruins. Have you guys figured out that goalie situation up there? Oh, have we figured it out? Yeah. We figured it out.

Swayman signed an eight-year deal. He ain't going nowhere. For how much? How much? $64 million? I believe, yeah, $825 average per year. So, yeah, a little more than $64, I think. Bad at math.

Not really. Was that $66? Yeah, we can do that. But, no, look, the Bruins, they reloaded, okay? They brought in a couple of big sons of bitches. Zadarov, this Russian mobster, basically. He throws his body around like there's no tomorrow. Got a goal scorer from Vancouver, I think Eliash Peterson or Lindstrom,

something like that. Boy, the Bruins are looking very formidable this early on in the year, and I do have a feeling that the Bruins are going to be back in the hunt for Lord Stanley. I'll tell you that right now. All right to be back in the hunt for Lord Stanley. I'll tell you that right now. All right. Patty Maroon, obviously a dog. D-Butt, now can I get a breakdown on the Florida Panthers offseason

and what team we should be looking at? We still got our guys. Still got Chucky. Still got Barky. Swaggy's in the middle. We still got Bob standing on his head. Now, did they figure their goalies? No, they did not.

Shusterkin? I do believe that I heard this morning that he did not accept the Rangers to offer. Listen, we are jacked up that the NHL is back. We do not follow all the storylines of the offseason as closely as we should have. And the nightcap on ESPN and ESPN Plus will be the Utah Hockey Club. Hell yeah. They beat them against the Blackhawks. Source.

Sis. Have told me that the barn is going to be packed. Always is. And there is. Speaking of the barn packed, we sold out of season tickets for the first time. Wow. This is a video from the Utah barn. They got white towels, shirts. Oh, white out. are oh it's a white out i don't know this

is from the skate around today in there do they have their own here we go uh i'm not sure but our source says are telling us it's about to be a madhouse out there in utah and remember the reason why utah got this team is because the city of Salt Lake and the state of Utah shows up at events. They've sold out the Utah Jazz, I think, for like 10 straight years. Like every game, every night, sold out, very active. Love sports, great fan base. And I think if you have a great environment, I think people will watch no matter what.

Is this Utah team going to be good at the hockey, right? They're fresh out of Phoenix. How do we feel about how they're going to be on the ice? They'll be improved. They made some trades, some signings in the offseason. They'll be much better than they were in Arizona. Are they going to contend for a cup right out of the bat? Probably a little bit of ways to go yet.

Still some building. Got to build a fan base there, too. They're going to be rabid, but you got to put on a show. They'll be better than Phoenix. Yes. For sure. It's going to be much better than it was in Arizona. World-class facilities. Everything's great there.

And they got the young magician coming to town first night. I mean, is he still on the trajectory there? Are the Blackhawks worth a damn at all? They are building as well. Zeke's going to pump some rainbows up, but I still think it's going to be a long season for the Blackhawks. But Conor Bedard is

going to build off that rookie year. He's going to be even better. He might even compete for maybe some MVP talk this season. Can he be on a crop team and win that or no? You probably got to make the playoffs to be in that conversation. And we will. Oh, yeah, Zito? I've heard you lie about the Chicago Blackhawks is what I was just told. No, no, I'm just happy that Patty Bruins joined the team.

What's that, pal? Big rigs home. Hell yeah. Protecting Connor Bedard. Hell yeah, big rig. Hell yeah. Will the Boston Bruins joined the team. What's that, pal? Big rigs home. Hell yeah. Protecting Connor Begard. Hell yeah, big rig. Hell yeah. Will the Boston Bruins get it done this year? Nope.

Actually supposed to be unbelievable. That's not believable all the time. The sportsbooks say they're not. Nope. The sportsbooks don't know shit, okay? They do know shit. They're actually kind of in their bag right now. Not about hockey.

Not about hockey. Gump's getting a test to it. They don't know shit about hockey. Yeah, but they're kind of in their bag right now. That is very true. The people who run the sportsbooks actually said they don't know a damn thing about hockey. Yeah, but what about the algorithms right now? Seemingly

algorithms... Algos too. Algos. They don't have any Canadian algos. And none of the Canadian algos know shit about hockey. Is there no algo coding going on up there north of the border, Goms? No, not in hockey. Hockey, they just let the boys play. Nobody wants it. Nobody wants the algorithm.

We want to see puck on the ice, pucks on net, fucking sticks, wood everywhere. Let's play hockey tonight, boys. Out there in Berkeley, they only do lines of code. I thought you were going to say something way different. Yeah. What? Lines of coke. No, that's why it was a good sign.

Oh, okay, okay. I didn't know where you were going. I just juiced up for the Bruins, baby, because they're a real championship contender, and we've been watching Patriots football. Hey, we are pumped that hockey's back. Very pumped. And we're putting out some good content, too.

I saw some behind-the-scenes stuff with Big Jesus. I saw Austin Matthews, you know, talking shit to one of his teammates. Stop bitching. I like some of the behind-the-scenes things we've seen from the NHL lately. What is that on the ice in the skates on Amazon Prime? What is it? Five on ice. Face off.

Drop the puck. Puck's on net. Yeah. Stick's on puck. Puck's on net. What's it called? Crash the net. What's it called? Crash the net? What's it called?

Golf swing? What is the hockey? Full clap ball. Blue line to blue line. Rubber on the hole. What is it called? In the barn? What is the hockey one?

Snapshots. US. What is it? Goons and skill? What is it called? Yep. All great guesses. I do believe it is called Face Off.

Face Off. You can't say that in the movie. That was a movie. You can't say that. That was a good was a movie. You can't say that. That was a good name. Should have been Clap Bombs. Is that on Amazon or no? Yes, it is on Amazon.

Okay. They got a full, they did a full like 24 type thing, which they once did for the stadium series games. They did with HBO. Yeah. So sick. Very good. Very good.

Very good. Yeah. The Pens were in a couple of those. So getting a chance to see the behind the scenes of the team that I've been a fan of for my entire life was cool. But also, hockey doesn't really give access much. Normally, now, over the last, let's say, 20 years, I guess 100 years of hockey, I guess over the last two, three years, it's been vastly different.

But normally, very buttoned up, don't know shit about anything, don't get to see anything. You watch the games, the players aren't going to say anything, coaches aren't going to say anything. You just watch the damn game, and then we'll see you next game. That is kind of what hockey has been, and it's all been out of respect for hockey. You don't see guys kind of act out of pocket because out of respect for hockey. You don't see the media try to disrespect anybody because of respect of hockey. That is always how it's been, and I think we all respect and appreciate that because it has kept hockey a tough, great sport for a very long time.

But getting to know players is a good move. You know, if people can relate to players more, they're probably more likely to become fans of the player, of the team, of the sport, which is why in the past, the NHL has made decisions before of, like, not letting their players play in the Olympics. It's like, why would you not let the players play in the Olympics? The people that don't watch hockey are probably going to watch hockey

for the first time because the United States of America is taking somebody on. Should they not see the best players on earth? Guess what? They might be captivated by the skill, the physicality, the type of action that's happening on the ice, and maybe that carries into being a fan of the NHL. And then you look over the last couple years,

the NHL is like, yes, you're right. Allowing more access, more conversations. They have these behind-the-scenes reality show happening on Amazon. You see more interviews. We got a chance to talk to Kachuk last year throughout the Stanley Cup Finals. That would have never happened in hockey like 10 years ago. So hockey's numbers are up.

The sport is still as electrifying as it's ever been. There's more, you know, I don't want to say old-school traditions that have survived in that sport than any other sport, but seemingly they have. It's a perfect sport for people, and I love that ESPN is broadcasting. I like that Turner, what they do with it, it's like we're in a good time for hockey,

and tonight the real shit starts, and I'm pumped up about it. Who's your brother-in-law playing for this year? He's on the Columbus Blue Jackets, so he's living at home. Yeah, it's a pretty good situation for him. He's pumped. He's excited. He said he feels as good as ever.

He's in like year 21 or something now. Damn. Massive mitts. Huge. This guy's mitts. Yeah, you talk old school. Yeah, he's old. Jack's like a power lifter, too.

Yeah, he's a monster. How are the Blue Jackets? They stink. Absolute garbage. They're trying to figure it out. They're figuring it out. They stink. They're Columbus Blue Jackets.

They're the Panthers. I know they're not. Three people about to go third time. Me, back-to-back. I'm sorry. How are the pins? Carolina. They're the favorites.

They're going to open. Sidney should play tonight. I feel like Sidney Crosby should be playing on opening night. Yeah, on the Bruins. This is the first time he hasn't in 10 years. He's playing tomorrow night against the Rangers, actually. Yeah, last year it was him and Bedard to kind of start the entire thing. If you do recall.

It's been Sidney versus the next one, McJesus, and he – I'm sorry, McDavid. He doesn't like McJesus, obviously, because he's – Oh, I called him McJesus. I'm sorry. Sorry, Connor. It's a great nickname. So disrespectful.

It's a great nickname. He doesn't want to disrespect Jesus Christ. He's not calling himself that. I get it. He can't feel too bad. He can't feel too bad if someone says that about him. That guy skates on water better than anybody else. Exactly.

He needs to be on primetime TV every single night, but he can't because he's so up there, Canada. And who gives a shit, Bill? Whoa! Edmonton? That's not nice. Edmonton is in that beautiful province. Alberta.

Beautiful this time of year. Which we love. It's about to start snowing in Alberta. Yeah, well, Saskatoon, I think they already got some inches on the ground. Toba also. I think Manitoba does have some moose running through some snow right now. Naturally. Gumpy, how many teams are in Canada?

Eight, I believe. That's a lot. Seven. My bad. Still a lot. Oh, yeah. Haven't won a cup in a long time. 93.

USA! USA! USA! USA! Suck it. Are the players from there? Kachuk is. Uh-huh.

Kachuk is. Him looking at that ring in that video was cool. Oh, yeah. Just watching all the hard work. And those rings are so sick. Hockey's a great sport. We're waiting for the arrival of the head coach of the Minnesota

Vikings. Cannot wait to chit chat with him. In the next hour, we'll have Michael Keaton on the program. And then tomorrow 12-10 Eastern time, Aaron Rodgers will be joining us. AJ, what do you think Aaron Rodgers says tomorrow at 12-10? Man, what a great question.

I cannot wait. I don't know. I think he's probably trying to process everything right now. It has to be a wild time right now being in the Jets facility. Do you think – oh, I thought I had a missed call from Gary Vee. I was excited. Holy shit. Oh, man. We got Fireman Ed's take.

He said, we'll be there. We'll be there. I love Ann. Gary has not called back yet. I know Bruce took a shot at Fireman Ed, so I'm glad you guys got connected. If I know Gary, I assume he saw your call and said, you know, I could call back or I could just jump on a flight right now. He's probably on his way to the Thunderdome.

True. That's a great point. He said FaceTime cool in person better. That is Gary Vee. Surprise. Bring some more Vee friends. He's probably hooping. You know he's hooping.

What's that all about? What is that about? Or Gary Vee is probably at the facility teaching chase down peanut punches from behind if I know correctly. True. All right, we're hitting Greeny right now. I'm assuming Greeny is reeling because I don't know what the odds are to get Devontae Adams after your head coach gets fired.

I don't know, McAfee. That might affect it just a little bit. Greeny's biggest worry at the beginning of the season was coaching. Yeah. Same with Michael Cole. A lot of judgements. AJ, you play for O'Brick? O'Brick.

Yeah, he was my month in Atlanta. He was the linebacker coach. I love that dude. I've stayed in contact ever since. His player photos are awesome. Is he beloved, we think, by the players yet? The whole team. Yeah, he is.

I've said it on here before. He is a perfect – he's a super meathead, but he's very, very smart and very intelligent. So he's like a perfect mixture of that. Super tough guy, holds you accountable, but he's very smart. He was great on hard knocks. Felt like the things he was saying was getting through to the entire room. He just has to take on a massive obligation here

to try to right the ship with, what, four primetime games in the next five weeks or whatever? I mean, it is, this is not an easy, or six weeks, I forget the exact number. They're on primetime a lot. And obviously, speculation whenever you have Aaron Rodgers on the team, whether you're interim head coach or head head coach,

he's like, we need to win. So, what does Ulbricht's future look like? I don't think I fully, what's the expectation? Ulbricht comes in here and wins the Super Bowl? Is that what the expectation is? I mean, yeah. That's the hope, right? From Woody Johnson, that is the expectation, right?

Yeah. Albrecht knows that? Does he immediately sees his friend who hired him get fired, and then all of a sudden Woody comes walking in and goes, when is your boy your ass ready to fucking behind him? See a security guy? He'll take anybody out of here, including you. Is that what the expectation is now?

I mean, I would imagine he's trying to figure it out too because how long has he known? For five hours that he's the new head coach of the Jets? When did he find out? Yeah, and what was the messaging to the players today who were in the building? Because today is a Monday. It's not a Tuesday because they play on Monday Night Football. So Monday

is classic. Get in, watch some film, recovery, go through some stuff. Tuesday, off day. Then Wednesday, you're back with game plan. It's like, this was a Monday. Then all of a sudden, it became a dawning of a new day. And that happens pretty quickly, I think, on this particular day. What if he did walk into his office?

His office is empty. He thinks like, oh my god, I'm getting fired. All of a sudden, turns out, they moved all of his shit from his office into Sala's office and Woody Johnson comes over with the security guy and says, no, no, I'm not taking you out of here. I'm taking you up, brother. You're the head coach now. You better

go win the division or your ass is gone. Welcome to the third floor, brother. Yeah, need ya. Now, Sala's office, we went back through hard knocks and saw it. Yeah, kind of kind of bland, a little elementary. Maybe that's why Woody Johnson was so mad. Maybe Woody Johnson said, get security, get him out of here. He doesn't deserve to take anything that's in his office

because the wood and the paint were just so disgusting. But you do see a couple footballs with some hand paintings on them there. Yeah, you are the best dad by far. Yeah, they put that right in the paper shredder. Yeah, and then what? I hope not. That's hanging in Fireman Ed's bathroom. All gas, no brakes ball up there.

Is this a stock photo? I see these wine bottles. Yeah. Who did? Who took them? Or no, this is a screenshot, right, from Hard Knocks? Yeah, a screenshot from Hard Knocks. I think it was from One Jet's drive.

I like... Why did they not put the hug out? They put the hug out. put the hug out maybe that yeah drops the tension of the conversation a little bit has woody even seen the hug i don't know they put it out eight days later you get that that night the entire conversation the next day is what's up with this lack of a hug then all of a sudden aaron hates salah yep and then aaron's like i don't salah's like ah we don't. Sala's like, ah, we don't. We're good. We hug later, actually. And then all of a sudden, it's like, well, that's not what you said.

And then the Cadence thing happens. You know, it's kind of presented in a fashion like, hey, Sala said this is kind of your fault. And then it's like, one thing leads to another. And I think it's all because of the hug. I think the hug was like the big... Maybe Woody killed the hug video and said, we need to bury that and get Sala.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's good on social media. There's a chance. Is he iced out? Did he wear his chain while he fired Coach Saul? No. Changed his chain to you're fired. Hey, you see my new chain?

You see this one? It used to be Woody, right? What does that say? Read it with me. You're fired. Yeah. This is actually your chain, pal. Shit, man.

You are the urn. Congrats. Have a good one. I'm going to go clean out my office. I got a hand-painting football from my kids. I got another finger-painting from my kid. I got an all-gas-no-break ball that was kind of gifted to me by one of my players back in the day. It's been with me every single stop. I got, obviously, three screens I put in there to watch all my

film. Woody says, that's cool. Yeah. You're never getting that shit. Get the fuck out. Now. That's crazy. He's the director director of security he'll show you the way week five geez aj week five two and three what if he wanted what if he i mean he had to be so caught off guard like what if he would just want to go talk to the guys maybe maybe that's why if they did have to escort okay let me talk to my team quick what if he supplements bottom right corner here he had to be in there oh yeah you assume he'd get the building probably 5.30, 6 o'clock And when did Shefty put that tweet out?

For sure, 10.08 Yeah, so he was probably in there grinding, workout In there watching film I mean, looking at Salah right there I could see him going for a choke slam I mean, with the When Woody comes in Yeah, when he comes in and fires

I could see me and the director of security Because he might have just watched Bad Blood on Saturday while he was over in London and said, you know what? I can't do it. I'm just going to show this guy Damien Priest. What if he talks about South of Heaven? What happens if Woody does walk in here and just

starts pointing at things in the office saying how bad they are? This is stupid. This is stupid. This wine stinks. This is stupid. This is stupid. This wine stinks. This is stupid. This is stupid. And guess what? You're stupid. Oh, no. Get out. What if it was a full-on show?

Checks out. That's a shame. Week five. Yes, week five. Quick go through a couple of those Hembo stats that he sent over. The first one kind of in theories here. This will be the first time the Jets have made an in-season coaching change since 1976 when Lou Holtz resigned with one game remaining after a 3-10 start.

Mike Holovac coached the final game, a 42-3 loss to the Bengals. It did not go well. Last time the Jets did this or had this situation, it did not go well. 1976. This is only the third time in franchise history the Jets have made an in-season coaching change. They did it in back-to-back seasons in 1975, Charlie Winter, and then 76. Under Robert Salas since 2021, the Jets won 20-36,

which is the third worst win percentage in the NFL over that span, ahead of only the Panthers and the Chicago Bears. The Jets had the 32nd-ranked offense in that time. Worst record in the history of the New York Jets as a head coach with a minimum of 40 games. He is worse than Todd Bowles and Bruce Coslett. The Jets were minus 26 in turnover margin during Sala's tenure. Only the Panthers have been worse since 2021. During his time there, they were outscored 267 points in the first half.

That's slow starts. It's tough. They're a shitty quarterback. And then the Jets had 60 more penalties than their opponents did. The worst margin in the NFL during that time. So we're saying they just got to penalize a lot. They start slow. And they just put that on the head coach's desk after five weeks in

and Woody Johnson said, I'm iced out. You're fucking out. Yeah. I mean, you can't look at any of that and say that he was doing a great job. But what does change now? Like, is there going to be more cohesion between the defensive coaching staff and the offense? Like, how involved was Sala with the offense?

We heard the crow and the eagle speech. Awesome. From Robert Sala. Do you remember? Yes, I did. Take them up, brother. Do you remember that? So maybe Olbrich just has different.

Different material. Maybe that's what Woody said. He walked in. He said, you know what? I think you're a crow. I don't think you're an eagle at all. We're trying to soar here. I'm Woody the eagle.

You're Bob the crow. You're Bob the crow. All right, let's put it away from this. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a coach that's up for coach of the year this year. One of the only two undefeated teams in the NFL. He is the head coach and offensive play caller for, ladies and gentlemen, Kevin O'Connell. Yay, Kevin! KOC, wild day in the NFL.

I don't know if you know this because you're watching film and so locked in. Coach Shala fired after five weeks. You coaches know that you're literally only as good as you're today and yesterday. Is that a real thing in the coaching world? Yeah, we know what we signed up for. Days like this are, you know, when you think about, you know, the person, the family. I think Robert Sala is a great football coach. There's a reason why he's had the success that he's had in this league before this job, and he'll have success again after this job. I do know that. I think very highly of Robert and the man, the person, and he'll get back up

on his feet. But like I said, we all know what we signed up for. This is an incredibly competitive league. We know what the task is. Every single day you show up to work as a head coach in the National Football League. It doesn't make it any easier as a fellow coach to see news like that. I'll certainly be thinking about him and his family, but I know he's going to be just fine. Okay, that's a phenomenal

response by you, Coach. Obviously that is why you have been such a great leader of men over there for your time in Minnesota. Former player, becoming a coach, understanding the business, doing your thing. How much better is it when you're 5-0? How much better is life when you're 5-0, Coach? Because congratulations,

only two teams undefeated right now. Wow. Only two teams. And to your point about coaching, Chuck Pagano always used to say, we all got one-day contracts. We all got one-day contracts. That's literally what we have. You're 5-0.

Might have a two-day contract at this point, KOC. How is life at 5-0? And why do you think your team has gotten off to such a hot start? Yeah, Pat, I think we're a good football team. I think we've got really good players. I think we've got really good players. I think I'm very blessed to have some really good coaches right alongside with me. I think we've had the right mindset from the very beginning. I can recall standing before the team in the first training camp team meeting and just letting those guys know I don't think

I'm on my own and believing that we've got a chance to be a really good football team by the look in their eyes and how they had worked throughout the offseason how some of these new additions had really gelled quickly with some really impactful players we already had here I was excited I'm excited every day to be around these guys I love love this team. I think we got a bunch of smart, tough guys that love football and they love being good teammates. And they buy into the fact that every single week we know that, what is it, about, you know, 29, 29 days or so ago, 30 days ago, nobody really expected our team to be worth much of anything. And that was just fine for me because we kind of knew what we had and knew what was in the locker room. But we also knew we needed to put in work and improve every single day. I don't think that's going to change

just because the result of being 5-0. I think we're going to come off this bye with the same mentality we've had from the jump, which is constantly chasing improvement. How do we get better? How do we have the best possible week of preparation for whoever the opponent is that given week? And we're going to respect our opponents always and know that if we don't have that elite preparation and show up to the football game very prepared, you know, it's not going to go the way it has these first five weeks, but proud of the way we've won. I think we've had to deal with some adversity. I think we've had to stick together complimentary football at times to pick

up for another phase of our team. I think our defense has been phenomenal. And I think, you know, we're only going to get better and better as a team, hopefully as this season goes on and be ready to deal with adversity when it comes. Like I said, I love this football team. I love getting to coach it every single day. And I don't take it for granted because I know that, you know, things things can happen quickly in this league.

And they tend to happen quickly when you don't do your job and find the results. But I got to make sure it's not about the results. It's about what we do to prepare for every op we get, Pat. Man, good for you and good for Vikings fans. That answer right there was just straight out of a book. Like, hey, how would you want a dream answer to be about a team that's 5-0 from your head coach in the NFL? Boom!

Let's go ahead and run that. Go ahead, AJ. Coach, Sam Donner, obviously he's playing very well with your offense. Coupled with that defense, a big reason why you're 5-0. How have you seen Sam grow over these first five weeks, and how is your game day relationship? I would imagine that's fun week to week, getting more and more comfortable with each other.

How has everything been going so far with that? Yeah, it's a good question because you come into it with a bunch of confidence in Sam. I know our team had a bunch of confidence in Sam and Sam was really confident after a really good training camp. But to have the success that he's had in many ways being an igniter for our team with some big critical throws early on in games to help us generate some of the leads that we've had. us generate some of the leads that we've had. But also when you think about it, especially over the last couple of weeks or going back to, you know, you're in a dogfight versus the 49ers and we have to put together a drive to try to recapture momentum in a game. And Sam's making some critical throws to do so, leading us down to get more points on the board and help secure a victory

for our team. You think back to Green Bay, we start that game so well, but then the momentum of being on the road in the NFC North and a good Packer team starts to put together some success. Sam goes out there and makes some critical throws and moves the team, gets us in position to get three more points when we needed it. And then he did the same thing. Sloppy, kind of not our standard of a day on Sunday offensively. But when we had to have it, even coming off of turning the football over, backed up in our own end, Sam goes out there, finds Jets down the middle for a huge play, hits Johnny

Mudd on a second and long to kind of get us back on track. And Will Reichert's been one of the best kickers in football, bringing up points whenever we need them to. So that's been a huge critical part to really just playing good football in all three phases, even when you're playing against, I think the Jets have a really good defense, really talented group, two really good corners, Quinton Williams in the middle, fast speed all over that defense.

We knew it was going to be a challenge. We did not perform at our standard, but we found a way to make enough plays to really complement a defense that was doing a lot of really good things like they've done all season long. How'd you feel about playing in England? Obviously the international games are a big deal. It's the only game on, all eyes on, 9.30 in the morning. Your team shows up, gets a massive win. What are your thoughts on the international game? Is that your first time or no?

Second time, yeah. We went over and won a hard-fought game against the Saints my first year. Pretty similar time in the season, week four, week five, whatever it was. It's a challenge when you go over there with the circumstances of the time change and all those things. But those are really just excuses if you allow them to be, Pat. I absolutely love going over there. We have a huge fan base over there. There was a ton of purple. Felt like a home game to us.

Yeah, you're exactly right there. Why'd they have Jared Allen doing the horn the way he had? Did you see that? Were you watching the whole thing? I did. I did not see it. It was honor i did not it was an honor it was a weird situation now this is the beginning we got like another 45 maybe two minutes here because they they really slow play this thing towards the end though jared is going to be like this a little horn. You saw it, coach. Can't have it.

No. Can't have it. Can't have it. You know what? That's a hard horn to travel with. Get through customs and everything like that. But, yeah, it was good to have. We had Jared there.

We had Chris Carter there, Jake Reed. I mean, great ambassadors for the Vikings brand. And, like I said, a ton of Vikings fans over there. We love going Carter there, Jake Reed. I mean, great ambassadors for the Vikings brand. And like I said, a ton of Vikings fans over there. We love going out there. We're 2-0. Hopefully we can get the next one. Yeah, I love how much the sport is growing internationally. The London games have always been so fantastic.

There's another one coming this weekend. Wake up, watch football. Life is good. D. Butch has a question for you about a massive piece of the team. Yeah, Coach, we all kind of spent time together in New England, you, me, and Brian Flores, B-Flow. I mean, how quickly did you make that call? How lucky were you that he was available?

You got a couple of former head coaches on your staff, B-Flow, Mike Penn, but I guess how quickly did you make that call to B-Flow and what has he brought to that defense for the last couple of years? Yeah, he was my first call D, but I, you know, he had been a guy that I really always thought if I, you know, yet, you know, in many times, in many cases that, you know, you better make the most out of your opportunity when you're lucky enough to get a head coaching job in this, in this league,

you think about and you really envision how you want your team philosophy to be built. And Brian Flores fits with every aspect of not only how I envision playing defense, but how I want the culture and our team to really thrive. I think he's been a phenomenal, phenomenal addition to our team. I think he's a fantastic play caller. A lot of times defensive systems get talked about a lot, but guys got to be ready to dial it up and really understand how to adjust and adapt within games, especially with a system like ours, playing against some of the quarterbacks we've played against early on in the year. You got to be ready to throw your off-speed pitches.

You got to be ready to change up looks. You got to empower your players to make adjustments. Yeah, Van Ginkie. You've got to have Van Ginkle be the smartest guy on the field. I mean, he knew what was happening. They said you guys repped this in practice like 100 times last week is what people were saying on TV? Yeah, we actually – Brett Rippon did an unbelievable job in practice

giving a look of kind of what it would feel like, you know, against Aaron Rodgers and the challenge that it would be by just emulating the snap count, the cadences, you know, what it would be like, what would the answers be for some of the pressures. Actually, in practice, the ball was not thrown. We kind of ran the similar pressure versus that exact same look. And I remember Flo screaming out, hey, you got to throw it because if he throws it in the game, we got to be ready to catch it. And Gink was ready to catch it again.

He's scoring a lot of touchdowns, man. I can get used to seeing Gink running down the sideline scoring touchdowns. It's been phenomenal. He's electrifying your defense. He's phenomenal. I think that's why people are so excited about this particular team, because what the defense is able to do. And then on the offensive side, is it fair whenever we say that you could

draw up a play to make like Connor be open? Yeah. Or maybe A.J. Hawk could play quarterback for a team that you are drawing up and calling plays for. What is it about Sam Darnold you think that has made him kind of be a fish to water with your offense? And should we continue to say that about how you go about your offensive coordinating business? Well, I'll tell you what, man, you can, you know, you can draw a bunch of lines on a whiteboard

and think you're scheming something up, but the players are the ones that make it come to life. I just sit, I just sit by myself over there on the sidelines and I call the play, but those guys make it come to life. And it's the execution. It's the details. It's the small details that we coach to our players, but then they then taking it to the field and making it come to life. And I knew all along, Pat, I knew all along if we could get some guys open, Sam Darnold's going to hit him because he's talented. He can play quarterback in the NFL. I've always believed that. And I'm just proud of him. You know, he's kind of not really worried

about anything other than just his role in our team. He's one of our captains. He works as hard as anybody each and every week to be ready to go. And I'm not surprised when he goes out and has success. And the challenge for Sam and our whole team now is going to be handling success and being able to reinvent ourselves as a team every single week, but staying true to how we want to play, our football philosophy, the core principles of what we want to be as a team.

This, you know, this shit's got to come together and it's got to consistently keep coming together. And it's my job to make sure that happens. I'll end this the same way I started it. I love this team. I love everything about what we're made of. I think that's the important part. And my goal is to keep allowing these players to go experience the joy of winning in the NFL. Cause it's hard to do.

Our team's been able to do it five times out of five games, a lot of challenges ahead, a lot more work to be done. Well, I respect and appreciate that entire answer, but I don't think you answered the question. Could you draw up a play to make Connor open? I got hands. It was a play against San Fran, Red Area, Jalen Naylor. Came in through kind of a C-gap probably in the corner,

but I think Connor could have made that throw. That would be exactly where we would start. It would have to be on a total sell of a run play, total deception. That's fine. But then we would allow his skill set to finish the job, make the catch, and then I would be very excited to see what that celebration looked like. Oh, we're kicking a 48, 50-yard extra point. Yeah, there's a couple different ones coming out.

I know we're not South Carolina or – what was the school? Davenport. Davenport, Iowa. But I probably am unloading the clip on somebody's face. It's a celebration. Can't do it. Can't do it. I have to guess.

They had the best one probably of the week. The parent trap one. I don't know if you saw it. Oh, yeah. Cam Bynum and Josh Metellus, I believe. I did not. I did not see it. It was good.

They did the whole parent Trap handshake, and there's a video of them practicing it. You've seen Parent Trap? Yes, I've seen Parent Trap, of course. Young Lindsay Lohan, she's like 12 years old. They do this cool thing. Well, it's whenever she's up in that camp. Yeah, bingo.

They're trying to trap her parents back together. You know it, Pat. Yeah, because her parents, they separated. Bingo. And I love this. I do enjoy this. Are you talking about celebrations with the boys? Are we saying, hey, we like celebrations.

We don't like celebrations. Can't use any guns? Can't use any guns. Please no. Can't even point first downs? That's all I tell them is just don't cost me any yards or any money out of your own pockets, but just make sure we're having the plays happen that lead

to those celebrations. And then I leave the room and let them creative minds come together and come up with that stuff. But there I do look forward to them every week. I know that whatever they got up there, up their sleeve in their bag. It's been awesome. Let's hope we see. Let's hope we see a lot more of them.

Yeah, we like you don't want us dancing. Stop us from scoring. I don't know if anybody's going to be able to stop a lot more of them. Yeah, we like, you don't want us dancing. Stop us from scoring. I don't know if anybody's going to be able to stop a KOC offense ever. We appreciate the hell out of you for joining us. Good luck throughout the bye week. I don't know how you get better, okay? That's 5-0. I know you don't want to hear that,

but I'm going to guess you and the entire team, Vikings have been an absolute wagon. Can't wait to watch the rest of the year. We appreciate you. You guys are the best, man. Thank you. Hey, Coach, if this goes in, this goes in.

Defeated season? Whoa. Coach, we watched Tannenbaum cut you before you could sit down in the hard knocks last week and hit the internet. I didn't like that. You're a phenomenal quarterback. People forget that. I think now everybody sees you as his play caller.

Like this guy, he's an offensive guru. It's like, well, that's because the guy used to be able to spin it. For me to put this ball into that hoop over there, what are some tips you think? Coach, coach me up a little bit here. It's going to be all about that lead elbow, man. Don't let it get too far from your body. This elbow?

The left one? Yeah. I don't need to see this, man. Keep that thing tight. Strong guy like you, you'll put that thing right in. All right, I will keep my shit tight. Yep. Keep my shit tight.

It's for an undefeated season. Lot on the line. Lot on the line. We'll see how good your coach is. Oh. Oh, yeah. 16-1. One slip up, brother.

That's okay. Hey, that's okay. I appreciate you. Ladies, go ahead. How are you going to deal with adversity?. Hey, that's okay. I appreciate you, ladies. Go ahead. How are you going to deal with adversity? That's the question right now. How are you going to deal with that adversity?

That's right. Just lay down and cry. Oh, there we go. There you go. Get yourself another one, man. Get back up on the saddle. Oh, my God. Whoa, whoa, whoa. In the pocket.

In the pocket. Adversity, more adversity. Down, stop. A little noisier. A little noisier. Break sack. Reroute. Coaching and coaching for me beyond the pressure everywhere.

Holding like Caleb, too. Yeah, you're damn right. Rolling out here. Oh, no. Stop. Sorry, maybe two losses. We don't want to do it anymore. We don't want to do it anymore.

Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O'Connell. Thank you, man. He's the man. Tight shoulder. What's his tight elbow? Yeah, that's good to know. Lead elbow. Getting too loose.

Drive it right to the target, yeah. Oh, wow. It does look a lot better. It's all over. All of a sudden, throwing football is better. Hey, can players throw grenades anymore as a celebration? A fake grenade? You can't use the ball, but could I, you know?

AJ, did you see the Grand Valley State Davenport? Did you see this Davenport guy? He takes a sword or maybe a seatbelt for strapped, whatever the case is. Strapped, seatbelt, and then, excuse me, let me get this out here. Bang. I was not expecting that. The shooter as he's walking away. In the back.

Shot a guy in the back. Oh, man. Run the weights, man. Jeez, can't do it. Are you serious? Let them have some fun. Let the boys have some fun. I think they're saying, I think what the NFL is saying is things get a little bit out of here.

Can't execute guys Murder What murder I'm surprised he didn't Turn your fucking head ref You don't have to see this I'm surprised he didn't screw the silencer on that thing 24-7 1 minute and 55 seconds left in the game

4th and 6 there Is he losing the game? Yes, losing. By 17. But what a play. Put it on the highlight. Maybe that's why. Maybe he's like, I want to get the fuck out of here. There's a minute 56 left. We got no timeouts. I get a personal foul here. They get a first down.

Maybe he's trying to get out of the whole, maybe, just sport. Yeah. I would like to get out of this sport i'm about done with it what's a good way to do it what are they what is everybody talking about this year oh gun celebrations all right they all think they got it south carolina guy does 100 shots misses it everybody else got their little clips see minnesota guy sorry that dude deciding to pull out a gun you know what i'm gonna do nobody else has done it. They don't know.

Where are you fucking? You put it back here. You put it here. What if he would have fucking. Oh, there. And then pulled another one out of his. Yeah. Sock.

Yeah. And then. Ankle holster. Keeps going. Keeps pulling more guns. Pulls a shotgun out of the inside. That'd be wild. Wrist gun.

Imagine that ref just being like, huh? Throwing another flag. Taking his hat. Yeah. Wrist gun. Imagine that ref just being like, huh? Throwing another flag. Taking his hat. Throwing a guy. Whoa, yeah? You think he pulls a shotgun out of his pants? I don't even. We just throw the challenge flag out here.

Wild time. What were you going to say, though? Oh, no. The Minnesota guy got a penalty for just lifting his shirt up and showing where his gun would be. Can't do that. No. But his ass. P.J. Fleck was fighting it.

P.J. Fleck was fighting it. Trying to say he was putting the seatbelt on. He was flashing his P.J. Fleck was fighting it. P.J. Fleck was fighting it, trying to say he... No, he was putting the seatbelt on. He was flashing his gun! Okay? He was letting you know he could. He didn't have to. So I think this is why the NFL is potentially saying, we need to crack down on this. This needs to stop. No more guns. Please stop. That Davenport guy,

that's the most... But it started becoming a thing once they started penalizing all these guys. I don't feel like this has ever been a thing in the past. I think we're starting to see them now because it's all getting penalized. I feel like LSU, South Carolina, that was one of the most first egregious. Shotgun to the chest? Yeah. The 100?

The LSU receiver, then he did it again on the sideline. Oh, that one. Oh, yeah. Game on. LSU, LSU, Vegas. Prime time game, yeah, kind of early on. That was kind of the first. Was that opening week? Yeah. That was Sunday.

Yeah, that was the only game on. So he started the season off kind of wrong foot. Highlighting it. They're really doing a lot of gun stuff, don't you think? Nah. And then opening weekend, I'm fucking. You see it all? Oh, yeah.

It was Wandel Robinson on the Giants, like his signature first down sell. He was like busting out a shotgun, obviously, no longer. Yeah, there's a couple people that have gone, like, and done snipers and stuff like that. No more guns, they said. And Davenport is the reason, I think, what just happened. Yeah. He's amazing.

That's A.J. Hawk. He's a little bit delayed, obviously, because he's in an attic in Ohio. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Bruce Brown. Con Man, hockey's back tonight, pal. Can't wait. Panthers, I believe, are doing their banner as well as the Bruins. Oh, it's a banner night.

I believe so. They traveled down to Sunrise, and D-Butt didn't even remember it was hockey season or it was Miami Heat hat, and now he's putting it on. It was on my X- my timeline last night, brother. I knew. I'm sure it was. Year 31. Here we go.

I bet you're pumped. That's nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler, who also is a Florida Panthers fan. Super fan. What, did multiple games? I did. Super fan. Multiple games.

It'll be tough to get in there now. Sold out. What? Season tickets. First time. Packed barn. You went to multiple games? I did, super fan. Multiple games? It'll be tough to get in there now. Sold out. What? Season tickets. First time. Packed barn. You get yours? You get yours?

Of course. Nice. Hell yeah. You're on the glass? Nah. Where at? I wasn't ready to break bread like that. Oh, the Florida Panthers moving money?

Just a normal fan. I won't be able to make a bunch of games, but we will be well represented as the the butler family hey congrats good luck to the panthers this year as you try to defend lord stanley i don't think it's possible whoa you're not pittsburgh penguins so you got no shot you're not hockey town detroit do you guys still play hockey up there yeah i mean we play football we play baseball we play hockey so yeah i mean detroit's all the way basketball you Basketball? You guys play basketball? We do, but, you know,

we're still working on that one. Actually, Jaden Ivey, one of their best players, he went up for a massive dunk the other night and got his shit swung. Well, it's preseason. He's just working on stuff. Yeah, he was trying to work on a windmill. Keep working. I didn't think that was coming right there. I thought we were

complimenting the Pistons. No, no, no. No, no, no. That never happens. Pulled back, kick comes in, and he just got his shit set back. It was awesome. That's what preseason's for. We're not worried about that right now. The Tigers playing good baseball?

Are they playing good baseball? You say top of the ninth against the best closer in MLB history. Does not matter. We got two guys on the pond, and we hit an absolute bomb to win the game. Yesterday's series tied 1-1. Gumpy, how do you feel about the Detroit Tigers? They're a good ball club. They've been hot for a while now.

Nothing seems to stop them. They hit bombs, huh? They hit it. That was an absolutely crush. It was awesome. I appreciate the fact that we saw their – you guys don't call them coach, obviously, because why would you? Why would you call them?

Their skip. Skipper. Their skipper. Manager. Gaffer. Their lead lad. Whatever the hell it is. Skipper.

Manager. The manager. There it is. The manager for the Tigers. I saw him in a locker room after they clinched something. I don't know what they did. He gave a speech about the team. I was like, oh, I could probably.

I liked it. They got MCDC. Then, you know, they got this guy doing his thing. It's like, wait a minute, Detroit sports, are they all the way back? Are they a team that I actually enjoy the most? That guy's speech, and then I learned that they spend no money. Of course, the Detroit Tigers spend no money, I guess, in comparison to everybody else.

Like $18 million or something. And then that guy, Hinch, he said something like, don't let the Tigers get hot. And someone let the Tigers get hot. That's what it was. Yeah. Don't look. Somebody let the Tigers get hot.

I don't know who it was. There it was. It was a great speech. And then he popped champagne and they started spraying. I'm like, kind of a dog. He got fired by the Astros after all the cheating stuff and kicked out of the league for a year. So it was pretty huge for him to go back into Houston. I'm like, kind of a dog? He got fired by the Astros after all the cheating stuff and kicked out of the league for a year.

So it was pretty huge for him to go back into Houston and beat the team that kind of got rid of him. He took the fall for all of it while the players didn't do or say shit. Oh, so, yeah, but what ended up being the truth for that whole thing? Do we remember? Trash can was banging on trash cans and having, like, basically a video set up in the tunnel to

the dugout was all real. I do not believe that the electronic on Altuve was proven. Yeah, Passon always says that. Passon always says it when he comes on. He's like, the whole buzzer thing that everybody started running about is not real. What was this about? Yeah, we don't know what Altuve... Maybe he doesn't like to show his nips.

He said his wife doesn't like when his shirt gets ripped off. Doesn't want to show his nips. It's part of his nips. He might have some huge nipples. Absolute pepperoni slice. Crazy tattoo. What if he does have a tattoo that he got back when he was a kid? Maybe he's got a big boner.

He changes in the stall. Big boner on his rib. Maybe a big boner because he passed out one time and somebody was like, oh, this will be fun. He woke up and had a tattoo of a big dong on his chest. We don't know. That makes sense. There's a lot of different things it could be. You're right.

You know? What if he had a... Feels like, I might be wrong, you have no hair, right? You're like a... Yeah, I barely grow. Yeah, I don't really have facial hair, body hair, yeah. I have chest hair and back hair pretty good at this point. What if he just has an absurd

amount? What if he's actually like sweaty? Yeah, like what if he's just, I don't want everybody to know that I got, you know. Wool sweater. What if that's what it was? There had to be something. He was very worried. He was very worried, sir.

It's like a puffer jacket. Like you take his jersey off and it's like poof. And once again, back to the tattoo thing, what if somebody in his hair shaved something? Burned it off. Oh, yeah. In that spot. Maybe it was a big dong that was shaved into the hair. Oh, that's tough.

Yeah. It's tough to explain, I guess. Yeah, so maybe that's what it was. big dong that was shaved into the head. Oh, that's tough. It's tough to explain, I guess. Yeah, so maybe that's what it was. You guys make great points. Thank you. And when it comes to baseball, hiring the guy that was cheating to win a World Series is just the greatest move ever. Congrats to Detroit doing it.

Thank you. Wake up, he laid that out. You know, the guy that was fired and kicked out of the league for a year, Detroit hired. He was kind of like taking a shot. No, I was actually, nobody in baseball wanted to talk about it. It was a massive deal, him going back into Houston

and beating that Astros team, because he kind of took the heat for all of it. Like, he was the fall guy, basically, for all of it. He's a loyal lad. Yeah. That's what I saw from his speech afterwards. Could you imagine being a baseball coach? Manager, yeah, you got it. Are you a manager because you're just managing humans for 172 games?

Pretty much, yeah. Is that what it is? Managing not to fall asleep. Yeah, we don't do as much coaching, more so just like managing everybody's attitudes all the time. Or do they have assistant managers or coaches? Yeah, you have a bench coach. Coach, batting coach.

Remember? Sean Casey was a batting coach for the Yankees. Remember that? So the manager, he is like the general manager, seemingly. He's like the head coach. He's the head coach. He knows assistants. But is he coaching?

Yeah, and for baseball, you know, they wear uniforms. And yeah, absolutely. He's the guy. Any of the guys put the line together and making decisions. And cleats, too, I think. I think they do the whole song and dance. Got a number. Boone.

They have to wear the jersey, actually. You have to wear it even under your coat. It's the rule. Brother. Yeah. How are these arms? Do the arms suck this year or are they good this year? They're still pretty terrible.

Up and down. They're a little better with balls and strikes because of all the kind of new technology on it, I guess. How about you? The Yankees suck or the Yankees good right now? I heard Aaron Judge still can't hit a ball. Yeah, it was a tough night last night. The Yankee offense pretty much completely no-showed. Yeah, Judge has the highest strikeout rate in postseason history. He's got to snap out of it.

And if he doesn't, heads are going to roll. In New York, yet again, Aaron Boone will take the fall if Aaron Judge doesn't start hitting. But it's not just him. Giancarlo Stanton behind him is too slow to really run to first base. You know, not a lot going well for the Yankees right now. But, you know, 1-1, we go to Kansas City, we, you know, get hot. These are best of five series?

Yep, yep. It was another master class from Bob Costas last night. Kansas City Royals fans are really upset about his call on Bobby Witt making an amazing play. And Bob Costas basically just said it's not Giancarlo Stanton's fault that he can't run to first base. Yeah, but he said it very oddly. I forget how he said it.

I thought it was Celtics' path yesterday. It is. It is. I mean, if not now, when? You know. So, Yankees think, okay, who's going to win? Dodgers? The winner of Dodgers-Padres.

The Yankees were favored going into last night. I don't know if they still are. The winner of Dodgers-Padres is probably going. The Phillies, obviously, will have something to say about that. How's Bryce Harper doing? Bryce Harper hitting the ball well? Yeah, he's raking. They got Kyle Schwarber. He's like the

best power hitter in postseason history up there with him. I've seen numerous good environments here. Oh yeah, all over the place. Tonight's going to be electric in San Diego. Petco will be buzzing, especially after all the shit that just happened in LA too. Wow, the fighting and the

bickering there? Well, and the coach said that Machado threw a ball at him when he rolled it into the dugout. Like, that series is about to pop off even more. Oh, tensions are high. Oh, yeah. If you're going to watch a baseball game this year, tonight would be the one I would watch. We got middle finger fastballs coming? Oh, yeah.

Really? Those teams hate each other, man. In playoff baseball? I would say they're not putting people on base. But, you know, benches could clear even without that. Yes. What would have to happen? Dirty slide. Dirty slide into second base on a double play ball.

That could get it going. Cleats up. Yeah. Okay. So maybe a little bit of a brawl tonight. Yeah, maybe. But, no, they're not throwing it, guys, because they don't want runners on base in the playoffs.

It's too important, unless you want to take a stand for your team, though. Yeah. Which maybe Profar wants to. Unless it's already done. If it's a 7-0 game and then you put one on someone's back. If it's for the Dodgers, got a 6 ERA. Yeah, he might peg something. The guy on the mound for the dads has been dealing all year.

Oh, it sounds like we know who Gumpy likes tonight. I love the Padres. Gumpy's a big Padres fan. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is a Pittsburgh legend. An absolute Pittsburgh legend. He was Batman. Late 80s, early 90s. Some people, he is

Batman to a lot of people. He is Batman, I think, to my parents. He is Batman to a lot of different... Then he went on to the movie Birdman, which was interesting because of the whole Batman tie and what he proved in there is this son of a bitch is likable this son of a bitch is lovable

he's authentic he's talented and that's because he is a yinzer ladies and gentlemen he has a new movie coming out called Goodrich which is a movie about coming of age at any age about sons and daughters mothers and fathers marriage and divorce, and about realizing what really matters in life is the ones you love.

Star of Goodrich, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Keat. Yeah, Michael! Oh, we miss you, we're missing you, we're missing you. It's on us, it's on us. We're off-centered there. How you doing, pal? I'm okay. Good, good, how are you?

Good. Hey, I've been reading the, um, like everything about this movie coming out. It seems like a lot going on, but it feels like you're the perfect human being for said role. The writer of the film actually said when she was writing it, she was doing it for you. And if you didn't do it, she would bury the script, I think, and herself in the backyard. If you did not, did you know that? And also, did it feel like that when you were filming it? I found that out later. We have a really good relationship.

I thought it was a little drastic to bury herself in the backyard. But hey, you know what? If she would have, sometimes you have to do what you have to do for art, you know? So if she would have buried herself, I'd have felt badly. But, you know, somebody had to go down. Did you feel like it as you were doing the movie, though? Felt perfect for you when you were? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She and I had a really nice relationship. She's real smart. She's got tremendous style. And she's got genes. You know, her mom, Nancy Meyers, and her father was a great writer, great comedy writer. And Nancy Meyers is, you know, I would say at this point, maybe legendary in terms of her comedy, you know,

and her success and everything like that. Yeah. So you've been in all- I was listening to all you guys earlier, cause I got to hear you, you know, we had an issue here, I guess with the, with the wifi or something, but so I didn't see you, but I was listening to you. You know, I'm, you know, I watched the show and how this started,

this is all I did, it was my idea. I said, you know what we should do for this movie is this Pat McAfee show. I said, cause I had a whole reason. But anyway, I was listening to you guys talk about the baseball playoffs, which are great. And where you think the fights are going to be you know baseball fights nobody ever really ends up except for uh who's the dude who totally knocked

out sean casey got knocked out right odor yes yes and then and then that one that slide into second a hispanic dude really good shortstop or somebody just walked up and boom. Like, solid shot, just dropped him. Yeah, Odor just knocked out, I think, Tim Anderson at second base. Yeah. Nuts. But normally those fights are funny. They're just kind of silly. Yeah, I agree completely.

Let's talk about silly. The Pittsburgh Pirates. I heard you're a Pirates fan. There was an article. Yep, exactly. Let's talk about it. This is my issue with baseball. The reason why I didn't play baseball is because the Pirates. I was hoping you wouldn't do fan. There was an article set. Yep, exactly. Let's talk about it. This is my issue with baseball. The reason why I didn't play baseball is because the Pirates.

I was hoping you wouldn't do this. No, I have to. I was hoping you. You don't have to. I have to. I grew up in Pittsburgh. The reason why I didn't play baseball is because the Pirates were so fucking ass. That is why I didn't play for so long during my livelihood.

So I wasn't even interested in the sport. I would be. See, and that's true. My little seven-year-old grandson, he can, first of all, you can ask, if you ever meet any of my friends, you ask him, he's only seven. We were just watching the Steeler game together. He knows everything. He talks about trades.

He talks about draft picks. I mean, his kid's unbelievable. He is a giant Steeler fan. He's a giant Pirate fan. But that's what happens to little kids. They're only human. At some point, you know, your little heart, you believe in everything, you have such hope. At some point, you go, fuck this. And also, what set me off many, many years ago, because I had this thing, I was, you know, everybody came after me, all these old hack sports writers.

But years ago, I was walking through Three Rivers, I think, and I was watching these kids, little kids and their dads. And he had a shirt and he was and I started to calculate how much his old man just spent on all that stuff, you know. And I started to get, frankly, pissed off. I started thinking, man much his old man just spent on all that stuff. I started to get frankly pissed off. I started thinking, man, that's insulting. That's insulting. That shows zero, zero respect. If you don't mind, I could get really, really specific about this. I love Shelty and I love the players and I love the coaches and I think they're nice people

who own the team, but this is a whole fucking conversation. Agreed. You need to sell the team, man. They sold seven sprints. No, no, no. God. Oh, yeah, but stay in the Berg. Yeah. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Definitely. Definitely stay in the Berg. Pittsburgh Pirates. No, Pittsburgh Pirates have to

remain in Pittsburgh, but I think what we have been saying, and I'm not a baseball fan, but we have some in the Berg. State Pittsburgh Pirates. No, Pittsburgh Pirates have to remain in Pittsburgh. But I think what we have been saying, and I'm not a baseball fan, but we have some in the building. Sell the team. You know, like you're going to make a bunch of money off the selling of the team. They said that this guy's only in it for the money, and you talk about the families, how much money they spend. This is the owner right here.

This is the owner. Nice man. Nice great man. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, Michael. I haven't talked to him. But, yeah, he needs to sell the team because baseball is obviously electrifying.

We're going to be watching tonight. The Pirates haven't been in there for a long, long time. I appreciate your fandom of them. We have another Pittsburgh question for you from Darius Butler. I do. I do. Surrounded by a bunch of yinzers here. I got to know if you have any – or actually, I know you went here.

What was your first experience at the great theme park, Kennywood? I gotta hear about this place. This is a good question. First of all, can you imagine, can you imagine what the, if you think about what Kennywood looked like, I know you guys are way younger than I am,

but the insurance, what the insurance would have been like, if you think about how most of look like. I know you guys are way younger than I am, but the insurance, what the insurance would have been like if you think about how most of those rides were built. You've seen them. They're good. They're sturdy. They're state-of-the-art. No! They hate Kennywood. All these

people talk shit on Kennywood, Michael. All of them. All of these people. You didn't know that. It was great. It was fun. And for a while, they didn't have like the fastest. I think the Jackrabbit was the fastest roller coaster in the world. And I remember the thing was we would get my family wouldn't get usually, but a lot of kids, you'd buy new tennis shoes, white tennis shoes for the day, you know,

you got your tickets from school and you'd go to the thing. And usually my mom would buy us, what was it called? Santa white or something. This stuff used to dip in liquid and it was white and you would make our shoes white cause they were dirty. Oh, nice, nice. Got fresh shoes from Kennywood though all of a sudden.

Oh yeah, man. Adam knew where nice white, and he'd Kennywood, though, all of a sudden. Oh, yeah, man. Adam knew where nice and he'd come home. He'd be totally filthy because, you know, they've got grease and oil and everything on the... No, Kennywood's super clean. I love you, man. I have to talk to you. I think the boys, though,

when they talk to you, the fellas there. Yeah, you got it. Tony Diggs has a question for you. Let me see them. Let me look at them in person. Say it right to their faces. Dude, you have to relax. On Kennywood, you're saying? Yeah. No, on the Steelers.

On the Steelers. You have to chill for a minute. Michael, I mean, you talked about how you were going to talk about the Pirates and how it's a long story and you get emotional. Same with me. Yeah, I do the same thing for the Steelers, and it's hard. We overreact, and I live in my emotions and stuff like that. But it's hard. It with me. I do the same thing for the Steelers, and it's hard. We overreact, and I live in my emotions and stuff like that.

But it's hard. He's the sensitive side of the show. Yes! Yes, I am. You know what? Listen, you've been in so many great projects. Batman, Birdman, Spotlight, all those. Excuse me.

I wanted to let you know, my favorite thing that you've ever done is Need for Speed. De Leon, Toby Marshall, Dino, Dino Bambino, Dino Verhoeven. Fucking right, Tony. This show loves Need for Speed, but yes, we are passionate about

the Steelers and the Pirates and everything. Do you think that's why? Me too. That's why you, Manganiello, who else? Billy Gardell, Jeff Goldblum. Do you think, like, there's so many, it's not a big city, but there's a lot of actors that come out of there. Why do you think that is? I don't know, but more and more, too, you know,

Zach Quinto and there's some really, and everybody's so good. You know, Zach Quinto, there's some really, and everybody's so good. I know Billy's a big fan, but I was, since I was a kid, you know, I know I'm much older than you guys. I'm actually teasing you guys, but I did think everybody took it too hard. I texted my brother the other night, you know, everybody has to relax. I mean, I don't think the kid is playing that bad. I think he's actually playing pretty well. That's a whole other conversation. But listen to this, man. I mean, I don't think the kid is playing that bad. I think he's actually playing pretty well. That's a whole other conversation.

But listen to this, man. I mean, we could go on. I could do 50 shows of just about that. I brought, I didn't know, I couldn't decide which hat to wear today. So, like, I thought, well, they might like the Pens hat. I don't know. Oh, hey, hockey season starts tonight. Sidney Crosby back with the boys.

Let's go. Let's go. He's the best kid. Have you ever had him on? Kid, he's not a kid anymore have you had him on no it's been hard to get a hold of shane crosby he's at the top of the mountain it's hard to get up to that altitude i will say he's the best he's the best he's the nicest dude and and you know i remember my first stealer game you know we lived out in a robinson township right between McKees Rocks and Coriopolis. I was a massive fan of everything, sports.

That's all I wanted to know about. I used to go home after school and draw all these pictures of my favorite players. My dad somehow came across some, this history is so great, some Steeler tickets. We had to drive down to, where did we drive to? I forget. We had to get a bus and drive to Pitt Stadium when they used to play in Pitt Stadium. And they were bad. The Steelers in those days were just bad for so long.

But that Rooney family is so great. And I distinctly remember how excited I was and what the city of Pittsburgh looked like. We were kind of country kids and I was looking out the window. It was so exciting to me. I also vividly remember my first game at Forbes Field. But that's still our organization. It's pretty friggin' great, man.

Are they going to win or not? You sound under relaxed about Justin Fields. Justin Fields is going to win a Super Bowl. Russell Wilson is going to win a Super Bowl. What are we doing? This year, not likely. Oh! Whoa! Oh!

That's probably right. But honestly, you know, I'm not worried about that combo. I'm not worried about that combo. I'll say now I'm going to get myself into real trouble. Okay. Ready? Because I know you guys love this. Okay Why did?

Two three years ago who doesn't love Ben Roethlisberger? He has a Hall of Fame one of the greatest ever ever not just in Pittsburgh ever and I was watching the other day on the show those hold Those little videos of him shaking guys off is crazy I mean believe one of the cars nobody liked him and and he was he was great but let me ask you this okay why years ago were they not looking to draft a quarterback because it's going to take a kid two three seasons to get ready anyway and i know you didn't want to upset ben but you guys say dude we love you you're great but i

got a business run so. So, Michael, that's the whole thing about the Green Bay Packers. They've hit on it a couple times now, you know, and everybody else, a lot of other fans are like, that seemingly works out great. In the moment, though, if you do recall, whenever it all happens, especially for that Green Bay Packers team, they're in the NFC Championship, so you trade up the draft

for the future as opposed to right now. You've got to be able to handle it on the shins, and they don't have an owner up there in Green bay they have like a a group so it's not just one owner one owner has to be able to take it on the shins and be like we're gonna be better in three years it's hard to do i think we're a part of the problem we're like it's so stupid and now it's like this is so genius they are fucking geniuses what the falcons this year just did it they took it on the shins hard like very very hard it's the right move though michael i think it is i genuinely think it is yeah you know it would have

been cool with it if you explained it to him you don't have to explain it to him anyway i guess i should be talking about my movie or do you want to talk i'll talk about this stuff all day long if you want how is the movie movie's great you feel good to be out there it's really good movie's really good it's and the reason I asked for you guys specifically was, guys are going to like this movie more than they think. So, you know, what I think you all should do, all the boys there, should go to a movie with your wives or girlfriends or friends or mates or whatever,

your partners, whoever they are. Make them take a cell phone. And then when you start to cry, because you're going to cry, I want you to put it. Oh, I'm not going to cry, I want to see all you guys crying. I'm not going to. Can't go. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.

You were just reading it earlier. You were like, I think this is going to be emotional. That's why. So I read the, I got sent over a thing. You know, we don't have a lot of yinzers, but celebrities, like actors actors come on the show. So we get real excited for the opportunity and thankful. And I see the way, like, you know, the

entertainment interviews go. They always get a preview look at things and they do the whole thing. We didn't get to do that because we don't have enough time to watch the fucking full thing they sent it over last night. But I wanted to read about it. I wanted to do enough research. As I was reading it to the boys, I was like, boys, this one has a lot of shit to it. This one's got some real this is serious multiple families kids twins he

becomes a uh a solo a single father i believe yeah yeah yeah in the middle of this whole thing and the way he navigates with his oldest daughter who's also currently pregnant from the first marriage and now we got twins and he's i mean it I mean, this is a real deal, this thing. Yeah, and you know, it's relevant and real and this guy kind of has to grow up and quit being kind of a, not a baby, but you know, not so self-centered. And it has elements of a movie and over the years, guys really ended up liking Mr. Mom a lot.

Because that little movie was ahead of its time and it eventually became very big and popular. One time I met this guy, he was a young guy in his 20s I guess. He was a Latino dude either from Central America or South America, I can't remember what, but he introduced himself to me and said, can I tell you something? I go, sure. We're talking and he says, when I was a little kid,

my mom sat me down, she was busy, she was working in the house and she was a single mom and I was watching TV and I ran into her and I was so angry about this movie I was watching. I was so mad at this man. I was watching this movie about a man he was changing diapers and he was doing dishes and he said made me so mad and you know that's a machismo culture you know and he's angry and she's laughing and laughing her ass off at this little kid and he said to me that the

movie turned out to be Mr. Mom and it's now like one of my favorite movies of all time. Oh, nice. So you're saying this is this generation's Mr. Mom, you think is how we should put it? It has elements of it, but that's, you know, that's about as much as I'll say. Okay, well, I can't wait to watch. I don't like crying though.

Kurt Warner sent me into a movie about his life story. I thought that was going to be like some action-packed football movie. It was a Hallmark movie. I ended up crying for Kurt Warner. I had to. One day, I ran into Kevin Stevens. Remember Kevin Stevens?

Yeah. Penguin. Yeah. Tough dudes. By the way, I'm starting to think hockey players might be the all-around best athletes, either them or soccer players. Let's see if they can throw a ball but i agree tough toughest i think they're toughest for sure doing everything on skates toughest i think definitely toughest very very athletic very very athletic incredibly athletic so can they throw and catch we need yeah that's true that's true but also the people we call best athletes, can they skate? I guess we don't really...

Yeah. Yeah. Ah! That's good. Hey, good conversation. Double entendre. Michael, that's good conversation. Yeah, I played hockey for a minute, and I was never very good. Anyway, he comes up to me somewhere in Pittsburgh, and he says, uh, I want to tell you this story.

He said, I go to see this movie I did called My Life about a guy dealing with cancer, right? He says, my wife was sitting there, it's a matinee, you know, at a game that night or something. And he says, I'm watching this movie and there was an electrical problem and the projector quit working. And so while they were trying to fix the, you know, get things up and running. They turned on the house lights, and he's crying. He's crying. Of course. Tough dude.

And he goes, oh, shit. And all of a sudden, people are kind of looking around, and they go, they start to recognize him, and they start to look at him. And, of course, he's going, oh, man, I'm a tough hockey player. I can't have these people see me cry, which I thought was a really funny thing.

Yeah, that's what you're trying to do to me for this Goodrich movie. Not that I'm a hockey player or tough at all, but I like to laugh, have a good time, but I'll get invested in a story, and anytime you are, I think we know it's going to be good. Do you know how cool you look right now, by the way? This backdrop here? Awesome. It looks so cool. You look so cool right now. You should know backdrop here awesome it looks it looks so cool you look so

cool right now you should know i have people i have people follow me around and wherever i go and like set setting me up everywhere aj has a question for you michael michael i feel like you have so much range as an actor i'm thinking obviously multiplicity unbelievable movie you're playing four different characters i heard you may even think about putting out a sequel to that. That'd be awesome at some point. The Other Guys is another movie where I think you stole the show for sure. But how do you have that range to go from comedy and drama, thrillers and Batman?

Not many actors, I feel like, have that kind of range to go back and forth. You know what? I have to be honest with you. When I started doing this, You know what, I have to be honest with you, when I started doing this, I'm going to tell you a quick story that you guys will appreciate. I started out doing a play in Pittsburgh and I used to work across the street at QED and I drove a cab in Pittsburgh. I drove an ice cream truck in Pittsburgh. I parked car. I did all kind of stuff. And before I moved out here, and I was doing stand up for a minute at a little place that nobody even wanted to hear about a stand up.

They wanted to hear music. They hated anybody getting up in front of the microphone and disturbing them. But I was thinking of you guys the other day when I thought about my early things and I did a thing about newscasters. I did a thing about Pittsburgh newscasters. I think the bit went something like that, like how they normally speak. And I said, Pittsburgh newscasters say things like this, two Jangoffs held up a melon bank today. So that's where, so when I started I was primarily into comedy, but I already done some plays and I thought my job, I still

kind of do, think my job was whatever the gig is, whatever the job is, you have to do, that's what you're supposed to do. So I always saw it as a, I always saw it the way I'm fortunate enough to have this career. But it doesn't necessarily work like that at all. But I remember making the decision after I did Night Shift, I did Night Shift and then I did Mr. Mom. And right after Night Shift, I was offered this role that to me was kind of similar. They saw what I did and they wanted to do that guy again. And I thought, you know, if I get stuck, I'm done.

I'll get bored with myself and I'm not going to get a chance to play all these other roles I'd like to play. So I specifically started changing things up early on, and I thought if it works, it works. If it doesn't, I'll do okay for a few years doing this funny glib guy. But it didn't interest me. So I purposely went after a couple roles that people wouldn't necessarily see me in hoping that i could you know i get bored real quick oh yeah pittsburgh yeah yeah that's right right so yeah what else yeah i know we're so short we're so short tempered hey michael oh yeah amen and

we'll booze a little bit if we have to, and we'll work hard if we have to. I mean, there's a lot of yinz or traits, I think, that have helped all of us in our respected fields. I assume you feel that way. No question. Hey, you talk about that decision to not stay in the same, you know, casting. You look back on your career now. It started, what, in the 80s?

And now 2024, you've got another movie coming out uh in october 18th you feel fulfilled with that i mean not a lot of people get to do this for this long and have this staying power how do you feel about your entire career you look back on it all proud of proud of that you know i look back and you know what i passed up you know uh um so every every once in a while i'll kind of go oh that one kind of hurt you You know, I could have done that. But usually not, you know, usually not. I just go, no, I know why I didn't. You know, I really wanted to be a dad, and I only had the one.

And he, you know, it was important for me to not be gone all the time. So I turned down a lot of movies early on because I wanted to have both. I'm an admitted cake and eat guy too. I want both. And I got both for the most part. But I'm in a tiny percentile right now of guys who continue to do this. I've directed two movies. I'm looking at one now to do again,

another down the road. And I'm in a small percentile, but I didn't think I'd be doing it this long. You know, I went through a period where it didn't interest me very much, but now I'm kind of re-energized for whatever reason. I don't really know what the reason is, you know? Well, hey, we're pumped that you are.

We can't wait to watch Goodrich, available October 18th. We're going to go to the theaters. Yep. We're going to get popcorn watch Goodrich, available October 18th. We're going to go to the theaters. We're going to get popcorn. We're going to get a drink. We're going to go in there, and we're going to watch this magical story by Andy Goodrich, I believe is his name, played by Michael Keaton.

And then we're going to cry our eyes out because we feel so good about it. You're going to laugh. Anyway, I'm a fan of the show, which is obvious, and I enjoy you guys a lot. We enjoy the shit out of you too, pal. Anyway, I'm a fan of the show, which is obvious. And I enjoy you guys a lot. We enjoy the shit out of you too, pal. Oh, yeah. Thanks, man. No problem.

Good luck with everything. We appreciate you. Hopefully you see you again. Ladies and gentlemen, legend, icon, Michael Keaton. Yeah. Michael Keaton. Cool. Andy Goodrich.

Let's go. Sounds like a good movie. Here's the filmmaker's statement that we got sent in. Guys, this is from the filmmaker. Yeah, I need this. Taking note of the many forms families take in this day and age, I wanted to write about different generations of children from different marriages coming together to form a modern family.

Melting comedy with drama, this film tests and explores its lead character, Andy Goodrich, played by the incomparable Michael Keaton, exposing his lovable qualities and his flaws. Andy's world is quickly upended when he finds himself in a position of being the sole parent of his nine-year-old twins from his second marriage. His life has always largely been consumed by work, causing Andy to never really give his kids the father they deserve while leaning a little too heavily on his adult daughter, Grace, played by Mila Kunis, from his first marriage.

Grace, now pregnant with her first child, watches from the sidelines as Andy learns to give his next generation of kids the very thing Grace's childhood lacked, him. As his work life comes to an end, Andy must grapple with the universe changing his course both personally and professionally, which may ultimately be just what he needs. Oh, that's going to be super

sad. Super sad at points. Oh, my God. I bet you those nine-year-old twins, for a large part of it, they're just calling him Andy. You know, don't even call him dad. Oh, you're right. You're right. Don't even. Hey, Andy, enough.

It's like, oh, I'm your dad. I'm your dad. Call him daddy. I hope so. Oh, happy ending. There's definitely a moment. Oh, a double hug problem. On a knee.

He'll be on a knee like this. And there'll be a double hug. He'll be on a knee. I love you, boy. I need you guys. Tell you what. That's going to happen. And then probably his daughter has her kid.

Oh, she runs in. It's a big... And then she has her baby with her. I'm not saying we just spoiled the movie, but... Sorry. Feels like we just figured it out, Michael. Maybe the next one we'll go watch. His Jagoff down melody was very good.

Yeah, it was. It was good. He ends her accent. He had stories for everything. He's having a good time there. Good Rich. How'd they put that up on the screen? I don it was. It was a good Ian's accent. He had stories for everything. He was having a good time there. Go, Rich. How'd they put that up on the screen? I don't know.

It was cool. How'd that work? Very cool. Green screen probably. Is he in the middle of a junket right now where he does, like, you know, 10-minute interviews all day long? Today was the only day that he was available. So, movie comes out October 18th.

Today was pretty packed with some late news happening. I know we're could not move off today because it's not because of his choosing. It was because I believe the media junket that you're referring to. Next Friday though, let's go. Let's go. It's in movie theaters. Some things going directly to you know, streaming service and everything.

And some people staying directly to movie theaters. It's like, let's go to the movies. Hell yeah. I love that the movies are thriving still. At least for a a little bit there's people in this particular thunderdome yeah they that were wishing for the movie theater's demise a little bit too much fucked up i'm looking at the back row in that back room back there loudest and more specific why still waiting it's gonna happen don't worry enjoy it while you can have fun yeah enjoy it because i do enjoy it it's a thing of the past and it will go that way bring back they going to bring back the movie pass?

The movie pass was a scam. They're actually updating all the AMCs. No, the lay-down seats changed it. That's the thing, Connor. The lay-down seats changed the game. I don't want to go sit in the old school. I want to go to the lay-down seat, and I love going. I don't get to go that often, but, man, I enjoy it.

It's a good night out. It's great. It's a good night out. Are they dodging you on prices? Sometimes. It's all it. It's a good night out. It's great. It's a good night out. Are they dodging you on prices? Sometimes. It's alright. It's experience. Yeah, but you're going to just charge that one to the game. Get out of the house, a couple

hours, do a thing, see a thing, experience some stuff. It's good living. Great living. I love the movie theaters. Love going to the movies. It sucks that Joker 2 is such a flop because I want to go see that. People are saying that's a bad movie. Oh, really? They're saying worst movie ever. The musical sequel, I think they did it with Mean

Girls too. I didn't know it was a musical sequel. To be clear, I did not do any research at all about it, but whenever I learned that it was a musical, that was very real. The whole movie, the second one, I never saw the first one, but the second one's a musical. I saw the first one.

The first one was interesting. The first one was a lot. It was a but the second one's a musical i saw the first one first one was interesting you know that first one was uh it was a lot there's a lot going on it was a movie movie that was a true film but uh i heard it was dark yeah first one yeah i heard yes dark most people were like hey one of those movies you watch once yep bingo that's exactly that's the right read on it i'm one of those people i don't watch a lot of movies but that was one of the ones i'm like i'm excited because because this Joaquin character becomes the, like he does the whole Jim Carrey thing. He does the whole. He's method actor.

All the way in there. So I'll go pay my respects, and then, yeah, you're watching, and you go, okay, I don't think I'll watch this one ever again. And then this one, I guess musical, right? Musical? Yeah. I don't think it's singing the whole time, but, you know, probably a heavy dose of it, which is.

Well, they got Gaga. Yeah, I was going to say, when the whole time, but, you know, probably a heavy dose of it, which is. Well, they got Gaga. Yeah, I was going to say, when you got Gaga, you do songs, but I didn't know they were doing like 15 songs. Tell me something, girl. That movie's still. It's great. Yeah, still hits. Stars. Month from now, we do get Gladiator 2, and that is going to be sick.

It just came out. It's awesome. We need Gladiator. Yeah. We need Gladiator back in society. It's going to be awesome. You know, when Gladiator first came through, I think there was a tone set by everybody in society that we

need that back in there. It's a unifying call. Not so much anything else. I think the world needs a Gladiator. That's good. I'm happy to hear that. Let's go now. When's it coming out? November 11th, I believe. Normally Let's go now. Come on. When's it coming out? November 11th, I believe. Normally, there's some sort of holiday movie.

Moana 2 is November as well. Is this the action one? No, the cartoon. No, number two. Hey, Moana, a ridge? So good. It's quite a good answer. Second one looks shit.

Up there with Wreck-It Ralph and the pantheon of animated movies. Well, Toy Story, obviously. Oh, Wreck-It Ralph. Come on. In the fucking pantheon. Have you seen Wreck-It Toy Story, obviously. Wreck-It Ralph. Come on. In the fucking pantheon. Have you seen Wreck-It Ralph? Have you seen Wreck-It Ralph? I've seen all of it.

I've seen every Wreck-It Ralph. I've not seen anyone other than the first one, but as the movie was happening, all I could say the entire time, much like when I was watching Ted Lasso, this is so much better than I thought it was going to be. This is so good. This is so good.

Absolutely love it. Just pantheon. We're talking fucking Toy Story. We're talking the fucking Bugs Life. I didn't know we were throwing Wreck-It Ralph up there. Bugs Life. I don't think I've seen a Bugs Life. It's great.

It's good. Very good. That Mario movie, unbelievable. Phenomenal. I gotta watch that. Make another one of those as well. Bugs Life holds up, too. That's smart.

Bugs Life? What is a... It's a story of an ant. It's about an ant. It's Homeward Bound for ants? No. The grasshoppers come to the ant hole, and they basically request all their food. And this aunt isn't fucking happy.

He's kind of a castaway who people don't really like. But exile that saves the day. Adam Schefter has just tweeted at 240. He says, Jets owner Woody Johnson said he spoke to Aaron Rodgers on Monday night, but it wasn't about Coach Sala. Johnson said Rodgers had no input in the decision made this morning. Fascinating. Wow.

That's what the internet told me. That's a lot of information. The internet told me he's the head coach, GM, quarterback. Jackie Moon. Yep. Halftime entertainment. League counsel. What was your tweet all about, about who the next head coach is for the Jets?

I just think, look. What was that about? We're going into week six here. Let's look around. Let's look at our options. We went with a really cool D coordinator who was awesome and Bob Sala, and it didn't work. And maybe there you have

to go back to the drawing board and say, hey, our best player loves doing this type of shit. Why don't we have this guy be the coach, bring him in, have him do this to all of our players, and then maybe all of our players get on the level of our best player, Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if he was even interviewed.

I don't even know if the shaman was even interviewed. Yeah, all I did was Google ayahuasca shaman. So I don't know if they just do that on, like, LinkedIn and see who pops up and then bring him in for an interview. Oh, shaman medicine oh whoa sorry come on medicine of the uh of the plant is what they experience excuse me which dimension are you looking to get to? We can send you right up. Super Bowl. The Super Bowl, brother.

Yeah. Super Bowl. What's that one? The SBD. That's the 10th dimension, I think. It's 11. That's the highest. I know that.

AJ won one. AJ, what dimension were you in when you won the Super Bowl? I don't know. Probably 11, right? How many are there? Nine. I don't know. From what I've been told, nine or 10, right?

Is there a ten? I forget. There was a time where I knew this answer and that was certainly a fascinating time. That was when we were all learning about the existence of this, I think, at the same time. And I was getting sent a lot of information from a lot of people. I guess there's a couple different

things that are three, four, ten, or even an infant. The number of dimensions in a universe is a matter of debate among physicists, of course, with some suggesting that there are 3, 4, 10, or even an infinite number of dimensions. Three dimensions is currently where we're at. Four dimensions, Einstein's theory

of general relativity adds time as a fourth dimension. Ten dimensions, string theory, a popular model of the universe suggests that there are ten dimensions. You don't want to get through the sixth one, I've heard. Sixth one is... is what's old buddy think what's old buddy think of it uh you know terence howard terence howard yeah what's he say hey i haven't heard much from terence no solve it in life they uh they're throttle they're throttle on him for sure i was just gonna say he had what like a two-week run there where he knew more he went back on joe rogan and they had

a scientist there to sort of go back and forth with him. And I think that kind of put it all. Yeah. What happened? He didn't want to debate? Turns out he was wrong. Old school science. No.

Terrence Howard. Yeah. He might have had a few stuff. That's your truth. Wrong. Well, I know that one particular video I saw, the physicist, scientist, paleontologist, whatever the hell it was. It was like like he's only

referencing something that we used to reference in like the 1300s we used to utilize this as a conversation piece and i was like as soon as i saw that video i was like oh it feels like there's a lot more of this than i know yeah and i'm gonna check myself out but terence howard has not been in the conversation in a long time he had to figure it out he went back to the drawing board he's he's figuring it out i need i need to the drawing board. He's figured it out. I need, I need to. Working on a new patent. It's hard out here for a scientist.

Yeah, it is. We got a new project up. Fight night. Ooh. It's on Peacock. He's acting again? Yeah. Good Kevin Hart.

Oh yeah. Samuel L. Jackson. Samuel. Ooh. My guy Dexter Darden is playing Muhammad Ali in there. Okay. What's it called? Good series. Fight Night.

All right, let's go watch that. They're rocking, people. Round three? Yes. Hey, Terrence. If you go back to solving the world's theories or fixing them or whatever, I'm here for it. Sure.

I don't really know what you said, but it all sounded good to me. Missed them. I need more of that. Yeah. Fight Night 2 is great, but I need more of like, know sound is actually you know fuck yeah you know they say it's this it's actually this and then it goes like this so that means we can harness it and drop that fucker this way up here on the table i like that type of thing yeah i love it i like the humans that come out and go hey every classroom has taught this thing

in every part of our country in every civilized civilization has the same exact theories. Let me tell you why it's all wrong. I like those people. I like that those people exist. I like that those people exist. With that being said,

I haven't got a lot of follow-up on what he was saying. If it was right. I don't understand what he was saying, when he was saying it. Yeah, there's some of it. But it did make me go, you know what? Hell yeah, dude. Fuck yeah. I mean, it would be crazy if aliens do come one day and they're like, hey, everything that you guys know is just

completely wrong. Hey, let us tell you about milk. What if they just started breaking down milk? I mean, this is what you guys have been doing with this. Then yesterday I learned that some chip that I was tasting great was going to kill me. Remember that? That was fun. Somebody told me to get chips for this office. Specific chips.

Specific chips for this office. His favorite. And then as I'm eating said chips, the person goes, hey, by the way, yeah, it's study just came out. Going to kill you. Yeah. What? Can we take the chips you wanted?

Can we take a take? It was weird. He waited for you to put the chip in. In my mouth. Wow. It was great. I was bummed out too, guys. I mean, it was my favorite chip.

I've been screaming it from the mountaintops. And yeah, I learned that about two weeks ago. It's not good. I mean, it turns out a lot of the food we eat is not good for you. I've heard that on X. I've heard that on X. Just inside these borders, though. We take a T, though, because those chips are so good.

Yeah. Wait, which? The chips are so good. Yeah. Wait, which? The chips are very good. Yes. I will say, I don't know. We're talking about the list. Allegedly. No, no, no.

Yeah, we don't have to do that. Let's start with an M and there's a V. No, no, no. Do your own research. No, no, no. I don't want to do my own fucking research. Come on. I like this.

It's not that one though. It is not that one. It is. Just don't eat too many of them. It does taste delightful. It was the one that Foxy requested. Oh, that one. To the office. I don't eat those anyway, so we're good. It's It was the one that Foxy requested. Oh, that one. To the office.

I don't eat those anyway, so we're good. It's not Sweet Vicky's. No, no. You better fucking. You never. That's what I was worried about. Keep Miss Vicky's name out your fucking mouth. As long as it ain't that, I'm good.

Miss Vicky's the goat, dog. Cape Cod, too, also fantastic. The best. Very good. Anyways, becoming a Chip's office over here. Becoming a Chip's office. And cookies. A lot of cookies. A lot of cookies. The best. Very good. Anyways, becoming a Chip's office over here. Becoming a Chip's office. And cookies. A lot of cookies.

A lot of cookies. Good cookies. Ah, we got good sweet straw. We got good sweet straw. There's something missing, but yeah. No, there isn't. Not one person has complained. I still see mini-

Your little dunkers? Your little Oreo dunkers or whatever? Yeah, his little finger creamies. Oreo dunkers, finger creamies. Yeah, his little finger in the cream. You know they're called Oreo sticks. You know they're fucking delicious And hey guess what

I'm still seeing mini Oreos in there Like a fucking joke Have mini Oreos instead of the fucking Oreos I don't like mini Oreos What the fuck is going on Look I ride and die with Famous Amos I fucking love Famous Amos God rest his soul

But we're missing Oreo own sticks, brother. No, you're not. No, you're not. Yes, we are. The Chewies came in. They've been throwing 100 on the paint. They're great. They go like hotcakes, though.

You know what it does? You know why? Yeah, because they're great. Because I don't have stuff in my bag. We don't have anything for two weeks. The office grocery list. Thunderdome Groceries is a thing in and of itself. The Oreo sticks need to come back, bro.

They actually fucking do. Everyone loves them. Everyone enjoys making them. People would fucking eat them, but you buried them. Don't eat the fucking Oreos. Just like in most situations, I was just the bearer of bad news for you.

That's why I came up into Coach Dutch Dangeroo's office. Whatever, man. And I said, hey, listen, does anybody like these Oreo sticks? He goes, what? You lose your mind. You know why I asked that question? Because I was asking other people if anybody likes them, and there was not a single yes.

I was trying to find reasons to keep the finger creamies around. And you were the only one, brother. I mean, it's just bullshit, man. But that's fine. I mean, I got photos of you eating them. So I don't know why you're fucking running your mouth about it. Once again, we've done the whole conversation. I was only eating them because there was no other options available.

So I took it upon myself. I'm going to make sure other options are available. And that thing has showed up every morning. Not as much as those Krispy Kremes you showed up with. Was that you? And it was. It was. Every Tuesday, I got to get the plays.

Had to go to the OG route today. Dude. They got the see-through top of the box for the Krispy Kremes. So you see what you're looking at. So you can't even

have that thing closed and not see it. Out of sight. Yeah, out of sight. Great move by them. Great move. Terrible for me. I walked by there like 10 times today. I'm like, I want it. Out of sight. Yeah, out of sight. Great move by them. Great move. Terrible for me. I walked by there like 10 times today.

I'm like, oh, I want to have four of those. I'm going to after a show. Quick 12-second nuke in the microwave. D-Butts brings donuts every week. Chuck Pagano brings three Baker's Dozens of donuts every single week. Jeez. Yep. Coach Dutch Dangeroo brings excitement. Touch danger who brings?

Excitement. Who brings the cookies? Cookies are bangers, too. Nick usually. Yeah, they're like the pens around the office. What were the... No, what was the one that was hard to open? We had some sugar cookies and a couple chocolate chips. Whose were those?

Mine, yeah. So good. Yeah, Halloween. But that Tupperware situation, cookies and a couple chocolate chips. Whose were those? Mine, yeah. So good. That was so good. That Tupperware situation, the notes have been sent back and we're working through it. The Tupperware was elite. That's why the cookies were so good.

Yeah, I guess so. That's why the cookies were so good. Tupperware was beating everybody, brother. It was crazy. Someone actually made cookies that they put in Tupperware? Yes. It feels like it came from my condo, if you will. Yeah, the Bruce condo. You call your girlfriend condo?

What the fuck? What is happening, Bruce? You call your girlfriend condo? You're hiding, Bruce. I helped. No condo. What the fuck? I'm glad he's in the doghouse. We're never getting cookies anymore.

Yeah. No. Maybe tomorrow. I will say the cookies were very good, but the Tupperware that it came in was impossible to open. It was impossible to open. Easily one to three minutes every time someone had messed with it. And it became a thing to see who was next to experience it.

Yeah. Like, as people were walking over and you see the cookies, it was see-through containers. So it looked so good. I was like, oh, I'm definitely going to have one of those. All of a sudden, guess what? You're fucking in it right now. Battle. You remember the finger trap things?

Yeah. Same thing. It was similar. It is one of those. It was similar, yeah. Nobody can fucking get it open. I think that's why it was so good. Yeah, maybe.

Because there was no air in that thing at all. Oh, yeah. While we're talking food, I mean, every single Thursday this show ends and everyone kind of panically walks around waiting for the one order of pizza. Yeah, Pizza Hut is crushed on Thursdays. It's awesome. It really has. It has shown up every single week.

And guess what? That's what Pizza Hut does. It delivers. Shows all the way. Every time. Every single time. It's very consistent. That Blondie's Pizza out there in Berkeley was okay.

Was it? What kind of style? What was the style of the pizza? It was a hundred and... No, that's an understatement. It was 5,000 degrees. It was so... Walked around with that thing for 20 minutes.

It still almost fried my face. It was the hottest pizza of all time. It was the hottest pizza of all time. Oh, mom, are you having warm food? What the fuck are you doing? It was just beyond warm. It was onion. You couldn all time. It was the hottest pizza of all time. Oh, mom, are you out of warm food? It was just beyond warm. You couldn't eat it. You couldn't eat it. Almost burned my hand holding it. You couldn't eat it. I'm not shitting you.

Had to hold it from the corner of the little... They gave us a little corner, a triangle pizza thing. And it was a paper box thing or whatever. And they hand it to us and we hold it and you open it. It's like a Pizza Hut-style pizza. It is like, it looks like a good pizza,

and you walk, it was burning our hands. So I actually had to hold it by the corners as we're walking around the area. Whenever we finally get it to a temperature, literally 15 minutes later, this thing had been out and about in public. It had been taking it in. We started, it was good. It was a good, it a good pizza, I thought.

Gumpy was mad about the entire situation. Burned his hands. I just wanted a cold pint the most part. I mean, Rossio stuffed it down his face. He liked it. Yeah, I enjoyed the pizza as well. No one else pizzas the hot dog. I mean, I just had pizza on Thursday.

Then I got Blondie's pizza on Friday. That's a tough. The bars are already set. But Blondie's pizza, I think, was very, very good. Rossio was trying to cash in on they had a wanted poster out. But Blondie's Pizza, I think, was very, very good. Rossio was trying to cash in on, they had a wanted poster out, this Blondie's Pizza place for me. And it said, if you find him, bring him to Blondie's Pizza, reward would be a Godzilla pizza.

Okay. Which is their biggest pizza over there or whatever. Sign me up. They put these photos up on a couple different blocks up there in Berkeley. So whenever we get there, we see the thing. Nobody had a clue that I was working at the place when I walked there. It was pretty sweet, actually. It was nice, and the reason why

we went is because of all the photos all around town. I thought I had to do it. So we get there, and nobody knew that I was there working there or anything. But Rossio, who works for ESPN, is an absolute dog, this Rossio. He was trying to cash in on the Godzilla pizza. So he actually did you put the photo? Yeah. He actually took a photo with it Rossio. He was trying to cash in on the Godzilla pizza. So he actually, did you put the photo?

Yeah. He actually took a photo with it, okay? He was like, where's this Godzilla pizza? They had no idea, obviously, the people behind it. But Rossio was trying to cash in. Did he? He did not. They never gave him.

That's kind of cool. He is pissed. What the fuck? Bullshit. Well, Gumpy could have, we walked to the place, so he didn't really. I assumed he walked in and just said, like, I got him!

Give me my fucking pizza! Rossio was a little flustered about it all. Here to claim my Godzilla? Rossio's a dog. Pizza was good. No one out pizzas the Hut. No one out breaks down defensive film better than one man and one man alone.

Wrapping up this particular Big News Tuesday, on the eve of Aaron Rodgers Wednesday, they're playing on Monday night, so obviously the football schedule changes a little bit. Let's go to Everything DB, Good D, Bad D, presented by Darius J. Butler! Darius J. Butler!

Let's wrap up week five, Everything DB. Starting with... A white? A white,. Starting with. A white? A white man. Is that a white? At the cornerback position. Is that a white?

Athletic. He's got white sleeves. He's got sleeves on, so it's hard to. Fast, explosive. 3rd and 11. It's a white guy? Got him on an island. That's a white guy.

It's a white man. That is a Caucasian. Mm-hmm. Okay. Riley Moss. Riley Moss. First NFL interception. Just a great job.

We had Pat Sertaino yesterday talking about it. You see Pat coming over, man-to-man coverage. Quarterback knows what it is. It'll be a safety rotation as well. So it's going to be one-on-one on the outside. He's going to widen him, get his head around. Good stab. Good stab early on.

A lot of DB coaches around the league love this. Double move. Gets his head around. Goes up and high points the ball. You see a lot of those DB coaches around the league love this. Double move. Gets his head around. Goes up and high points the ball. You see a lot of times, DBs especially, they'll kind of wait for the ball to come to them when they're in a good position. And receivers typically have better ball

skills. Go over the top and catch it. But a great job by Riley Moss climbing the ladder, getting his head around too. Off the double move, a lot of DBs will panic. Kind of get a bad pass interference here. A little underthrown. Not him, gets his head around. Great job getting up and picking that thing off for his first NFL interception.

So congrats to Riley Moss. On that double move, can we talk about the athleticism of having to go sit back on your heels and then regain your speed and then catch back up? Yeah. Freak show athleticism out of Riley Moss. And widen them as well. That's important. So a lot of DB coaches will get really, really pissed off when a cornerback starts.

You're in the press technique. You're in the receiver's face and you just let him get a free release. So there's no point in getting in his face. So he did a great job stabbing him, widening him. So getting him off that red line for the quarterback, leaving no space, and then going up and finishing the play. Great job high point. That's probably the best part. Lean, locate,

and then high point in the football. Hey, just like Patrick Chetain tweeted, white man can jump. That's what we're talking about. That's what we're talking about. He had a 39-inch vertical at the combine. Where's he from? Iowa. Wow. One of Kirk's dogs.

Iowa had him on the team. They had Cooper Dajin on the team. And they had zero yards of offense every year. How'd that happen? Yeah, I saw some good tweets, some DEI fence. Some good Twitter coming from a Wiley Moss post I had earlier this week. This is his teammate, his OG. PS2, had him on the show.

This was his second interception. He's down there matched up with Brock Bowers. It'll be single high coverage. Bowers is going to run a dig route from a tight split. It's usually a tough route for outside leverage. Obviously, Sertain is very, very patient, stays square, trusts his speed versus tight end speed, squeezes him, always talk about tips and overthrows.

He tips it up, catches his own tip for his second interception on the day. Great play. Brock did have a sick touchdown this week, too. He did. I mean, he's a dog. I think both of Pat's interceptions were Brock Bauer's targets. The first one was an overthrow, and the second one was a tip. So, tips and overthrows always show up week in and week out.

But great job by him. Awareness, batting it down, and then getting up, going and getting his second pick of the game. Let's talk about another guy who's on a streak. A streak. Another guy on a streak. Five games in a row this guy's on a streak. A streak. Another guy on a streak. Five games in a row this guy's got interception. Bia, five games in a row.

First player to do that with a new team since 1970, I believe. Starting in the post right here. So he's on the hash. He's going to go to a single high coverage once again. And once you're in that post, you just got to read the quarterback. Obviously, Matt Stafford's been around. I believe that's Tutu Atwell. If you pause it here, the guy that – can that uh the slot corner guarding the slot receiver up top

up uh yep right there so outside leverage doing a great job keeping his outside leverage forcing the receiver to go more upfield which forces the quarterback to put more air on the football and more air on the football free safeties love the football. Free safeties. Love it. You'll see him breaking on intention. So right here, the ball is out. He's already breaking. Overruns the receiver. Beats him to the spot. Once again, great, great, great job keeping his leverage by that corner.

Keyshawn Nixon, I believe. And then getting up, getting his fifth interception. I believe two, at least two of his interceptions have been kind of overthrown by him being in position, running to the ball. He had a great one to cover too against Philly week one. But every week this guy finds the football. Signed for a ton of money this offseason and

it's proven his worth every week. Should be, I think, in the defensive player of the year conversation early on. Five straight picks, absolutely. Five straight, yeah. Is he in the AP 10 watch list for defensive player of the year? Yes, he is. Yeah, he better be. Five picks in a row. What do you want from him? Fantastic. Another one

to save it. So this is back-to-back. A couple guys. Save his boys. Oh, really? Yeah, Xavier McKinney, former giant. First round pick and then went and got a bunch of money from the Green Bay Packers. Yes! Another guy who will be getting a bunch of money soon. Wow! Patriots on a good thing.

My favorite corner coming out when he came out uh devin witherspoon is great as well but this guy i mean this is going to go to two men so right now can you run that back to the beginning because that's some kind of that's some veteran that's some veteran savvy shit right there so you open up right here and you kind of i remember talking to tom brady earlier in my career and asking him which corners gave him the most problems and he said corners that kind of leave the quarterback guessing, give it indecision. So if a corner is a great press guy, you know,

he's going to be impressed all the time. You know, ways to attack that. If he's a great off corner, you know, ways to attack that. So whenever a corner kind of shows, Hey, maybe I'm off, maybe I'm pressed, maybe I'm covered too. So he's showing it, he's kind of mixing it up. And then at the snap, he turns into kind of a two-man corner, but he's outside leverage.

So that safety is going to go over the top. So he knows he has help, and he breaks outside in and undercuts his ball and picks it off. Great ball skills, great understanding of the route, and great trust in his ability. I mean, one of my favorite, not only young corners in the league, just one of my favorite overall corners, period. Got the size, got the ball skills, got the speed, got everything

you want as an outside corner. Is the Gonzo flu still a real thing? It's a real thing. It's a real thing. Very much so. He should have had another pick later on, too. Actually caught it with his hands. Perfect. But Tyreek Hill made a great play and knocked it out. Running across the field with Tyreek across the end zone. Who's number three?

Strive for stride. That was Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham made his debut. Oh, he did? Still knocking the rust off, but once again, great job understanding the coverage. Congrats to you guys. Breaking outside, and we did get the win. How's it going? Unbelievable.

On him, Jason DePlay. Snag. Is that your man, Pat? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. That was a big part of the conversation. Yeah, he chose him.

Glad he chose him. He still chooses him to play football. I like it, too. Thank you. I like seeing Odell Beckham. He's got options. Need glad he chose it. He's still choosing to play football. I like it. Thank you. I like seeing how he dealt back. I mean, he's got options. Need him in the league. He always looks so cool, too.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. He looks sick in all white. Oh. How about this? He had some glasses on the other day in his Instagram. Great shades. Super cool.

Yeah. At his peak, he was outside of some of the quarterbacks. Probably the most popular football player. Remember, he signed that huge Nike deal that really football players, like a $25 million Nike deal. What ended up happening? Didn't he get that? I think he won.

He won that money. Yeah, because he was doing some other shit with cleats and stuff. So they went and tried to get their money back. Obviously, he wasn't the same player at that time, and he ended up winning in the litigation. Yeah, I think he did. It was a win-win they described it as because they didn't have to pay. He didn't have to pay.

No blow. Everybody wins. Well, congrats. We like that. Are the Dolphins going to win? Are the Dolphins going to continue to win, brother? Oh, yeah. We're all the way back.

I mean, the Jets, they fired their coach. What are they doing? Josh Allen's going 9 for 30. McDermott has no idea what he's doing. I mean, why wouldn't we do it? Why wouldn't the Finns win the AFC? Let's go to some bad D, shall we? We only got one play from bad D.

No! No! No, I didn't know this. I was like, I did not see this. This is my first time seeing this. I don't want to throw salt in the wound, but this is what guys are in the meeting room watching. And this is a learning moment for everybody,

not just the guys on the field. Yeah, myself. Yeah, so cover three right here, which is, if you know anything about Gus Bradley, you're going to get a lot of cover three, a lot of single high. Every offense that's facing him knows it. Everybody around the league knows it. So right now, cover three, you run it to the beginning,

the very, very beginning, if you would. So the tight end, do we have the tight end motion? Okay, perfect. So tight end, so right now we have Brian Thomas Jr. in the slot. Absolute stallion of a receiver, rookie, LSU superstar so right now we have brian thomas jr in the slot absolute stallion of a receiver rookie lsu superstar receiver right now already making you know he's a game wrecker right now in my opinion when you're facing the jacksville jaguars he's in a slot now once this motion goes outside motion goes outside corner goes with them now you know zone coverage okay one safety deep

most likely some type of cover three as a cover three corner you got to get your depth you have to get back that got it circle up top that's the corner and you got to get to what's called a midpoint if both these guys run vertical you're responsible to split them make a play pause it so now you have a hitch from the tight end he settles his feet on the hitch which he should never do because he's a deep third receiver if you look at both flat defenders right around the 20 yard line both flat defenders are kind of in a high school zone drop, so they're not carrying the seams. In some defense, that slot defender would run with that seam. Not in this defense. You got to understand the structure of the defense. You

continue to run with him. If you don't, this is what happens. It's a very, very common route around the league, a slot fade, slot scene. Typically, you march a running back or a tight end or whoever outside to do exactly what he did there. You run the hitch. Perfect. Take the eyes. And then you run the deeps. I mean,

that's a bad... Great effort play. Extra effort. Full effort. Brian Thomas Jr. is one of those guys you're not catching from behind. Full effort play. Carly Ursae. Great effort. Extra effort. Full effort. Brian Thomas Jr. is one of those guys you're not catching from behind. Team. Full effort play. Carly Ursae. You know.

Head tech. Hopefully. Specialist right there. Rest of the team. Everybody. Yeah, it's tough. You never want to be in this. Take an eyes on this guy laid out like this.

Does the face hit the ground? His face messed up. That's a full. That's a full. Full sell. I mean, you want to clip that heel. You clip that heel. You do get a chance. I appreciate the sellout. I mean, you want to clip that heel. You clip that heel. You do get a chance.

So I appreciate the sellout. Me too. But that's really, really tough. You run it back to the beginning. We don't need to run a full play. But in the beginning, the free safety is highlighted as well. You have to understand there's a free safety. Where are my threats?

You remember Xavier McKinney, where he was based on the threat. So you have to know, hey, Brian Thomas Jr. is in the slot to the left. So let me at least split the speed. So let me split these receivers here and where Brian Thomas Jr. is. And then once Trevor catches the snap, pause it here, his helmet goes right to that right. So as an indicator, as a free safety, you're a zone defender. Your eyes should be on the quarterback,

and his key is telling you that he's looking this way to the speed. So everything should tell you, let me lean that way, let me get ready to break that way. Once again, that McKinney rep, it was a great job by him opening his hips, and then once Stafford kind of broke that egg, as we call it, pulled his hand off the ball, then he went. Right now you're never getting from the opposite hash to this guy. Great throw, great read by Trevor Lawrence.

I think the free safety could at least help and get him down. You line up again, make him snap the ball again. He did not. So just overall failure by the defense on this route. We got to see. That's close. Once again, I appreciate the sell-off. Damn, his eyes open.

But, yeah, learn just from the beginning. Help yourself out at the beginning. Get a better alignment. And if you do kind of start off in that five-yard area, just open up and run off the snap instead of, you know, kind of slow playing it because those guys get up on you fast. Fastest speed of the year there, Brian Thomas Jr. too. Really?

Yeah, he's a – 22-1-5 I think. Yeah, he's a burner. He's a burner. Trevor Lawrence had a career day against the Indianapolis Colts. Caleb Williams had a career day against the Indianapolis Colts. Wide. Justin Fields had a career day and a loss against the Indianapolis Colts. Wide. CJ a career day against the Indianapolis Colts. Justin Fields had a career day and a loss

against the Indianapolis Colts. CJ Stroud just had another day at the mill. I just want to remind people this is regular. That's what he said. That was a bar. I just want to remind people this is regular. And there's no defense for a perfect throw. And he's throwing a lot.

He said that. He said to cover two, if you're going to make a mistake, I'm going to have to punish you for it because they're doing that a lot i'm like jesus guy everything about him is great yeah the only defense that made him a struggle this year was that minnesota vikings that we had a rep actually they can't buy them had a pick where cj stroud was trying to squeeze it in there so that covered to rep as a defense when you call it like he said it make them snap it over and over again, make them go the long, hard way. Quarterbacks, offensive coordinators, sometimes they get impatient, and that's when you get a tip, get an overthrow, take advantage of it.

Yep. D-Butt, great work. Hey, baby D-Butt. What's up, D-Butt? AJ, great work today, pal. Really did it. You didn't tell us anything about Aaron, which we were hoping maybe you'd give us a little inside information.

You chose not to do that yet again, so thank you, AJ. Hey, baby Hawk. Do you have any you, AJ. My baby hawk. Do you have any info, AJ? Do you know anything else? No. I mean, you know, everybody's caught by surprise, I feel like. Let's try Greeny one more time. Doesn't he do like a radio show, 12 to 3?

Yeah, but I remember he said anytime you call him, good, too. So now I don't know what's really going on. And he never called you back. What the dude? Not even a text. Not even a text. Maybe he's traveling. That's impressive. He's ringing. Maybe he's lofty.

Maybe they hired him to be one of the coaches. Maybe Albrecht brought him in. Consultant. Yeah, consultant. Pump up guy. We got to remember that about Greeny right there. Are we on the ounce with Green? They do get up this morning?

Do we know? Are we on the ounce? No, we're not on the ounce with Green. He didn't get a chance to react to this, maybe. So maybe first reactions come out and get him. Maybe it's McAfee, come on. There it is. Come on. Can't do that. You know.

I bet as soon as the show ends, he calls you back. Because I can't be doing that. Come on. Come on. I got a whole night. I got tomorrow to react. Come on. You got Aaron, 12-10. What about Cole? He talking to Cole yet? Yeah, he was in the middle of... I think he was recording more voiceovers. Come on. You got Aaron, 12-10. What about Cole? He talk to Cole yet? Yeah, he was in the middle of, I think he was recording more voiceovers.

That guy. I will never do a video game because of Michael Cole's schedule for being a fucking video game announcer. It is all day, every day, seemingly. Grueling. Oh, there's an opening in your schedule. That's cool. We can sneak three hours in here for you to say Vintage! Vintage Randy Orton! Ooh, the Toxin Table's coming out.

Was Cole bummed out? What about the... That wasn't the... No, I didn't get that vibe. I think you heard it a little bit earlier. It sounded like some Jets fans. Fireman Ed, you know. We'll be there. Shout out to Fireman Ed, Kevin O'Connell. Shout out to C.J. Stroud stopping by.

Michael Keaton stopped by. What was that? What was that? The fact that Michael Keaton was on the show is awesome. Yeah, but the way you laughed about it. I laughed like, wow, this is real. Like, that's reality. You said thanks to Michael Keaton, which sounds awesome.

In the middle of it, I thought that a few times. This is real. This is happening. Talks to the table. Great work today. AP tone. Great work. Thank you, brother.

Foxy, way to go, pal. Zeke, way to go. Nick, good work today. Graphic department, good work, boys. Into you, Canadian shit painter. Great work at everything you do, pal. Great work for you, Pat. Your splunking of the internet,

your ability to post clips in real time, your work ethic, your beard, your morale, your aura, and something that we're all... Your fits. Oh, man. We're very lucky to be around you. Happy birthday, Gum.

Happy birthday, Gum. Happy birthday, man. All the time. We're very lucky to be around you. Happy birthday, Gump. Happy birthday, Gump. Happy birthday, Gump. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Light the candles, man. Happy birthday, dear Gump. That's where I'm going to get it. Yeah. Happy birthday to you. Yay!

Woo! There you go. We love you, Gumpy. Thank you, boys. Lucky to be here. You guys are like family to me and I appreciate you all. Yeah.

You're family to us too, brother. We're lucky you're here. We're thankful you're here. You did great work. You're the man. Happy birthday. Excited for the next one. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Happy birthday, Gumpy. Maybe not the next one so much. Ohited for the next one. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Happy birthday, Gump. Maybe not the next one so much. Whoa. What's going on? It's an ugly number coming around the corner now. No. It's going to look great on you.

That doesn't mean shit, Gump. Life is good. Life is great. Doesn't matter your age. Just how you're living. Very good. True. All right.

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