The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1216 - Aaron Rodgers Wednesday, Adam Schefter, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler & the boys are joined by 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl MVP, 5x All-Pro, 10x Pro Bowler, and starting QB for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers i...n the first hour to share his perspective on the Jets recent firing of their Head Coach Robert Saleh, address false accusations that he was behind the move, speak about his great relationship with both Saleh and his family, how tough a business the NFL is, what he expects from Interim Head Coach Jeff Ulbrich, the importance of accountability, and much more. Also in the first hour, Pat, AQ, D-But and the boys also break down the news that rookie Quarterback Drake Maye will start this week for the New England Patriots, and what Boston Connor expects from his debut performance. In the second hour, NFL Senior Insider Adam Schefter joined the progrum to give the Insider's perspective on Jets Owner & former Ambassador Woody Johnson's firing of Robert Saleh, highlighting that it was actually his brother Chris Johnson who hired him, whether or not Jets GM Joe Douglas had advance knowledge of the decision, Robert Saleh's job prospects as he turns the page to next season, and also gives us an update on the Davante Adams potential trade situation & what he's inferred as a change in offensive playcaller for the Jets' from Nathaniel Hackett to Todd Downing. Also in the second hour, 3x DPOY, Texans Ring of Honor Member, future Hall of Famer, Walter Payton Man of the Year, and NFL on CBS analyst JJ Watt stopped by for a great conversation where he gives his thoughts on the success of Robert Saleh's Jets Defense, Kyle Van Noy's epic resurgence as a pass rusher, the Commanders amazing start to the season, his brother TJ Watt joining the 100 sack club, him driving delivery for Pizza Hut, and much more. In the third hour, we close with AQ Shipley's Talking Points coming out of Week 5, and go In The Trenches for Week 5's Top 5 Performing Offensive Lines, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/patmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We'll see you tomorrow. Cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdome. On this Aaron Rodgers Wednesday, October 9th, 2024, this program starts now. Football! It's amazing. Football dominates the topic of conversation in this particular show on a regular basis, but today, more so than any. In about 15 minutes or so, we'll be joined by Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is obviously the four-time NFL's MVP, the former Super Bowl champion, the current quarterback for the New York Jets,
Starting point is 00:00:32 who just so happened to have fired their coach yesterday at 10.08 a.m. via an Adam Schefter tweet, is how we found out. Sala learned of his fate via a Woody Johnson conversation. If you read the tea leaves that have been brewing on the internet since this tweet was put out. There's been so many different dynamics that have been reported by multiple people. We have sources inside the building and around the building. Robert Sala allegedly going on vacation now.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Will not be back coaching in the 2024 season. Even though everybody seemingly wants him to be the Niners defense coordinator. And I think Colts fans want him to be the Colts defense coordinator. And I don't know if that's going to take place at all, but I do know he's going to have a job back in the NFL whenever he wants it. And that's because Robert Sala, whenever he got hired as the head coach for the New York Jets, was a guy everybody was in love with. He had energy. He had it all.
Starting point is 00:01:20 We're flexing. We're going crazy. We're celebrating with the boys. We're chest bumping. We're doing it all. And then we become the head coach of the New York Jets and we lost it. Seemingly lost his happiness, lost his joy. Then he has Aaron Rodgers come over and be his quarterback. It lasts four plays. And here they are five weeks into the season after losing in London, sitting at two and three with a lot of season left. And he gets fired out of nowhere on a Tuesday morning. Since the firing, obviously, there's been a lot of different reports, like allegedly Robert Sala was going to fire Nathaniel Hackett
Starting point is 00:01:49 as the offensive coordinator. And then a lot of people on the Internet immediately started saying, well, as soon as Aaron heard about that, he called Woody Johnson and said, Hackett's fired? I don't think so. I think you fire Bob Sala instead Everybody has run with that theory Everybody has run with that narrative
Starting point is 00:02:09 Everybody has cited that that is how things go I'm excited to see what is said In about 13 minutes from the man That everybody on the internet, not everybody A majority of people on the internet assume Was the one that did the firing after 5 weeks Of football. A guy that's been in the NFL For like 20 years has had 3 head coaches okay that's it three three head coaches wow didn't know that
Starting point is 00:02:32 if you read the internet yesterday obviously he's got a coach three head coaches 20 years throughout this entire thing when has it ever worked for any team to go win a super bowl which is obviously what aaron rogers is in this thing to continue to do with the New York Jets. When has it ever worked when you fire a coach? Five weeks? I don't know. It doesn't make sense that Aaron would want to fire the head coach at this standpoint with the history of football, what they're trying to do,
Starting point is 00:02:56 and what does it do good for the team in the coming weeks or for the rest of the season. I'll be excited to hear what Aaron has to say, though. Everybody's had their chance to have their theories and their thoughts. He'll tell us in about 12, 13 minutes. I assume Coach Sala will get his side out eventually. I assume there's another side that's going to come out from it. Maybe the Jets. This is a
Starting point is 00:03:13 massive happening around sports media. Hopefully we learn a little bit more today. Adam Schefter will join us afterwards. I'll be excited to hear what Adam Schefter knows, maybe from a different side, different standpoint, maybe the history of things and how it's got to this point yesterday. Did this come out of nowhere, or was this potentially building up into a moment where they lose in England, where Woody Johnson, the owner,
Starting point is 00:03:34 former ambassador of the United Kingdom, has lads with him over there? Wait till you see my team come over here. We've done business, we've done this, and then they lose, and then he's flying back. Was that the cherry on top? Was there other reasons inside of it? I'm excited to hear what Schefter's opinion is on it. And then we'll have J.J. Watt join us.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And J.J. is going to be an electrified conversation about this and everything else happening around the NFL. Obviously, the NHL dropped puck last night. Huge celebration in Utah to cap off a three-game launch into a fantastic NHL season. You can already sense the buzz around the NHL is very real. Last night, that was certainly the case. You got baseball happening still.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The NBA is taking place. Shams Sharania makes his debut as the senior NBA insider for ESPN tomorrow on basically every single studio show. It is a wonderful time to be alive. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. That's nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. One half of the Hammer. Dive.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Cowboys. AP Tone is here. Then the toxic table is here. Sitting in for Ty Schmidt is 12-year NFL vet Jackie Moon of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Player coach, Super Bowl champ A.Q. Shipley. And Boston Connor. Connor, obviously the AFC East has been dominating the conversation in the news cycle. Oh, yeah. You know, Miami Dolphins, too, when he comes back, if he wants to play football, obviously the AFC East has been dominating the conversation in the news cycle.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Oh, yeah. You know, Miami Dolphins, Tua, when he comes back, if he wants to play football, obviously everybody disagrees, potentially, with what Tua wants to do. That has a microphone in front of their face. He should never play football again, but maybe he wants to play football again. True. Oh, we will find out if that's the case.
Starting point is 00:04:58 That's Conville. And, you know, Buffalo Bills, what's going on? Good Lord. Josh Allen was definitely concussed. No doubt about it. Definitely concussed. He goes back in there. He plays football bad. Are the Buffalo Bills done? They haven't really beat any good teams. Oh my God. What are the Buffalo Bills? Is that window still open? That's a conversation that's happening. New York
Starting point is 00:05:16 Jets, they just fired their head coach. Fired their head coach. Five games. Trying to win the Super Bowl. That's the entire head coach gone. See you later. And then in the New England Patriots organization, it is the dawning of a new day. Drake May, officially named starter. Connor.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Hell yeah. Congratulations, pal. I know you're jacked up about it. Yeah, very pumped up. I know Monday I said, look, this season's over. Looking forward to the draft. And lo and behold, that was not true. That was an overreaction.
Starting point is 00:05:41 We are not looking forward to the draft. The season starts on Sunday against the Texans. This is incredible news. This will be the first time the Patriots are going back-to-back weeks with the same starting 5-0 line. Yeah, that's how bad it's been up front, but they didn't play terribly. I know AQ also kind of echoed those sentiments. There were a few spots on the offensive line that are questionable.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Missing starting center for the last 10 years, Super Bowl champion David Andrews is going to be huge. That really stinks. But Drake May going in, I couldn't be more pumped. I don't have high, high expectations in this game. Expectations overall, Hall of Famer, MVP, Super Bowls, all those things very much on the table. But just looking for Sunday, look, I need like a a 10 yard run for a first down okay
Starting point is 00:06:25 need one of those him high stepping maybe a little bit showing that speed that he has that he showed in pre-seasons i need like a third and 10 dart across the middle maybe even a sideline dart for a first down to pop douglas or kendrick bourne that would be fantastic to see and then of course i need an on thethe-run 60- to 70-yard bomb. I don't care if it gets caught. I don't give a shit. This is all happening against the Texans? I just need one of each of these individual
Starting point is 00:06:54 plays. This is four quarters, one game, overtime if needed. Bingo. Maybe overtime. I expect us to be up 10-15 points in the fourth quarter. But again, just throughout the game, that's all we're really looking for. Coach Mayo talked about it kind of earlier today at a press conference. He said, like, hey, this is my decision.
Starting point is 00:07:13 He actually got a follow-up there. Like, you say this is just your decision. Did you talk to any of the offensive coaches? Like, hey, are we sure this guy's good to go? He said he talked to Alex Van Pelt, the offensive coordinator. He actually mentioned how at the end of preseason, know when the conversation was so loud how are you going to wheel out jacoby brissett when drake may clearly won the job here anybody watching the games could tell drake may was better and he said like hey that progression has continued like he has continued
Starting point is 00:07:37 to get better someone also asked did the plan that we've been referencing here with drake may did this get expedited they they pushed this up because of the play and because they were 1-4? He said no. So it does seem as though the plan is still on. Everything that they were talking about doing. When we get back-to-back weeks of the same offensive line, we'll put Drake in. We're going to throw him out there.
Starting point is 00:07:58 What if Coach Mayo did say that? I'm not putting him out there until we at least have two weeks of continuity. That's it. That would be an interesting conversation behind the scenes now you're saying the expectation is or all you want from them is just we need five highlights against this houston texans uh defense rookie quarterbacks seemingly d-butt and uh we saw this graphic uh on the internet it's um might take a little bit might take a couple weeks kind of learn learn it. Now, James Daniels, different story. Obviously, he came out of the gate playing fantastic football.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But it seems like these rookie quarterbacks that were drafted high, all of a sudden, maybe starting to find their way. Is it more the team? Is it more the player? What are your thoughts on that? Some of it is definitely bad opponents. But some of it is definitely building that continuity with the play callers, with the players around them.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I know in Caleb Williams' situation, Swift in that run game has gotten going a little bit more. He's been a weapon out of the backfield as a receiver as well. And we're seeing Caleb make those plays that we expected him to make on this level, the things that he was doing at USC, breaking the pocket, making big time throws. They won a couple games. Jayden Daniels, we know how unbelievable he's been pretty much from the start. He should be right at the top of the MVP conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:05 His offensive line, his run game is also helping him, and also his weapons on the outside. Bo Nix, offensively still not looking great, but he's taking care of the football. And on the other side of the football, defense is flying around. One of the best defenses in the league right now, so he's doing his job. I think they will continue to get better as well with Sean Payton. And then we have Drake May.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You know, he's coming in, and we can expect him. I expect him at least to struggle better as well with Sean Payton. And then we have Drake May. He's coming in and we can expect him. I expect him at least to struggle early. Kind of get his footing. Figure things out. Not a great offensive line. We saw Jacoby Brissett running for his life. Hopefully the weapons get going. Young weapons out there. Pope. Javon Baker. Once he gets in there doing some things. Pop Douglas. So there are potential
Starting point is 00:09:40 weapons. And Drake May is dynamic. Coming into the draft, he was probably the biggest I would say wild card. When did you say Drake May should should get drafted uh one overall but i was he also said the browns were gonna win the super bowl i didn't say i was leaning i said jerry judy moved the needle for me but you know offseason takes it's not it's not you're right right hey i still love i'm still very very high on drake may he has cute. You're right, you're right. For a draft take, so. We haven't seen him play yet. Hey, I still love him. I'm still very, very high on Drake May.
Starting point is 00:10:08 He has all the intangibles. If you're building a quarterback, you know, on Madden, he's kind of like that Justin Herbert mold. He's big, has a strong arm, athletic. So that's the thing with all these quarterbacks. You know, Bo Nix, Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, they all have athleticism. So if things break down, they can break a pocket,
Starting point is 00:10:23 make a play with their legs or their arms. So I definitely have high expectations for Drake May. The speed. I feel like Jacoby, you know, did what he could do, what was given to him. And the reason you drafted guy number three overall is kind of to bring everybody up. So hopefully we get that from Drake May.
Starting point is 00:10:37 May not start week one, but maybe week four to six, we'll see probably that growth in him and his offense. That's what I'm saying. With the stat that we showed there, I think you, Drake May, it might take a few weeks here. It might take the rest of the season. Who knows? Because the conversation about Drake May was he needs to sit out a year.
Starting point is 00:10:52 He needs to learn how to play football. He needs to get his fundamentals better. He needs to get his feet set. He needs to get his eyes right. Too often he was the most athletic person on the field and he was just doing his thing in North Carolina. That's what people – not us. I'm just telling you that is what people said at North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:11:06 He led North Carolina in rushing and passing one season. I mean, you're talking freak show athlete. Comes from a family of freak athletes. We are worried. Yeah, very much so. We are a little bit worried with Drake's big first start here for the New England Patriots. Will his uncle
Starting point is 00:11:22 make it to kickoff? He's maybe... We don't know much about him. I've only seen him in a lobby of a hotel before the draft. D-Butt saw him on a golf course for an entire day. Guy has a good time. He's going to win the tailgate. May family's going to win the tailgate. It's going to come from said uncle.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Does he make it to kickoff? And if he does, how pumped is that family for their boy? I mean, that's a tight family. I'm very pumped for all of them. And I'm excited for Patriots fans to have a little bit of hope. Yeah, absolutely. That's what's so exciting now is because it really was doom and gloom on Monday. That was not done with the season, but basically done.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And now it's a whole new era beginning on Sunday. Hey, Kush, what do you think is the hardest thing for those rookie quarterbacks? Why do you think Weeks 1 and 2, they're in a bad spot? Just because of speed, everything? What do you think? No, there's so much more on their plate from protections, from the week, from the process, from the game plan, from everything. That's why I wish he would have had
Starting point is 00:12:16 David Andrews. David Andrews, their long-time great center, goes out last week. Nick Leverett moves in. Nick's a vet. Nick was down in Tampa Bay my last year playing. He's been in the league a little bit, learned learned got to see Tom Brady a little bit so now all of that is going to be on him you would think right like you don't you want to take a little bit off of a rookie quarterback from a protection standpoint from flipping the protection from fixing protections from all that stuff and just kind of let them play ball when you have David Andrews you can do that
Starting point is 00:12:40 yeah David Andrews obviously around long time uh bummed out we're not going to see him. Very excited for Drake May. And I think Coach Mayo probably is excited what the future is going to look like over there as well. Future down in the Saints is obviously something. Derek Carr has been ruled out, basically, with an oblique injury. And they're saying Spencer Rattler is probably going to be the starter down there. Spencer Rattler is a guy whose college story is infamous. And he became a great leader, I think, down in South Carolina,
Starting point is 00:13:09 great player down in South Carolina. He gets an opportunity now with his New Orleans Saints team to do their thing. He wasn't the quarterback that came at the end of the game. No, that was Hayner. No, I was playing Hayner. Hey, Hayner can spin it now. When I saw Rattler's name on the graphic, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:13:23 okay, I like Spencer Rattler. This is his moment. Spencer Rattler's name on the graphic, I'm like, okay, I like Spencer Rattler. This is his moment. Spencer Rattler has been through a lot of moments. He'll be able to handle this. Excited to see how the rookie does or whatever. Hanger. Hanger. He put that in the bucket to Olave. The Olave one, obviously. Dart.
Starting point is 00:13:40 We're talking side run, submarine, Kamara just right behind him. If that thing goes right in front of him, we go, oh, shit. You know, we really go crazy for it. But just the moxie to be like, you know what? Fuck yeah. I'm doing this thing sideways.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Had that sweet head shot too. And the modeling he was doing. I thought that guy was potential. That was him? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Different number. I thought he was 14. So he must have switched his name That was him? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Different number. I thought he was 14.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So he must have switched. Okay, wow. Yeah, second year. Or something. Get him in. Or second year. I don't know what's going on, Don. That's front man personality trait.
Starting point is 00:14:15 That guy. Yeah. That guy's ready to be franchised. Blake Grupe having a great year down there for the New Orleans Saints. Happy to see that. Team seems to be together. Derek Carr going to be out. That's no fun. Derek Carr
Starting point is 00:14:25 doesn't enjoy that. Hopefully he gets back healthy. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, A.J. Hawk. A.J., as we await the conversation with Aaron Rodgers about him
Starting point is 00:14:41 firing his head coach. Once again, very serious situation. Okay? Family got fired. They're going to have to move. A lot of kids. It's part of the gig. Definitely sucks.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Anytime you're firing somebody, it's a massive move. But just the automatic response of people on the Internet, not all people, but all going, this is Aaron doing it, is wild. So that's why I'm excited for Aaron to come on here and chit-chat and be like, you know, maybe he does say, yeah, I thought the time was now to fire the head coach. Maybe that is. You think that's what he's going to do? You think he's going to come on here and say, oh, it's about time I walked into,
Starting point is 00:15:17 you know, Woody's office and said, hey, get this dude out of here? You think that's what's happening? Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, logistically, how's it all go? You know, like, so they, I believe what warren sharp put out there and warren sharp does a lot of football coverage nfl coverage a lot of people follow him he has a created it massive platform he does have a book about football a lot of people think he acts like he created football but he is a great addition to football i think personally he puts out a lot of shit we appreciate
Starting point is 00:15:40 him but he put out a tweet that was basically like it's evident with what's happening and what we're hearing, that Aaron called on the phone to Woody, a red phone or something like that, to Woody Johnson and said, you got to fire this guy because he's going to fire Hackett. It's like, Warren, I know you know a lot about football, but that would be a wild in an NFL building move.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And then what's the ripple effects after that? Because Coach Sala hired all those coaches. Yeah. So, you know, and all those players. Like, I don't, that would be a wild thing to happen in reality, but I guess in movies and in theory on the internet could be a good idea. So that's why I'm so thankful that he's coming on because that narrative got real loud real quick, AJ.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Wow. I mean, so he – I didn't know Warren. I see most all of what Warren puts out. I didn't know he was actually – was he saying he has sources in that or is that just kind of his opinion? He said it's becoming more and more evident with the more information that we're learning that this is what went down and it's like that's a pretty big statement just uh to say with how big of his platform is too you know we get caught up in that
Starting point is 00:16:37 shit listen we say dumb things we have a big platform feel terrible about it would like to get better going forward with that being said just assuming and then just, I don't want to say, fanning a flame that is currently happening with a position being like, this is definitely what it's like. Let's not forget, he created the hip drop tackle. He also made the game better, by the way. I would like to say I do follow along. Micah Parsons' first game, he said he was going to be terrible
Starting point is 00:17:00 because he was lost in the sauce, even though he came up, read the run, flipped his hips. Okay, all right. So Tone is not the run, flipped his hips. Okay, alright. So Tone is not the biggest fan, but I will say I am. Speaking of being a fan of, I am a fan of people that are great at their profession because it means that a lot of work has gone into it, a lot of passion, a lot of dedication, and we're
Starting point is 00:17:17 so incredibly lucky that once a week for the last five seasons, we had a chance to chat with this man. Joining us now, quarterback for the New York Jets, four-time NFL MVP, Super Bowl champion, Aaron Rodgers. Aaron! How are you, man? Good afternoon, boys.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I'm very thankful that you wore the wired headphones for this particular conversation, so there's no chance of breaking the Bluetooth connection. I see you wear them into every single stadium that you walk into. Your old school still are. I appreciate that. You got to protect the brain. Oh, see, I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Because the radio. Electromagnetic. They're all just going in there. All right, anyways, let's not talk about the wired headphones, even though those are artifacts at this standpoint of life. Let's talk about the massive news. Are they really? I feel like they're coming back.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I see like three're coming back. I see like three or four guys in the squad that got them. So there's a small, really tight-knit group on the team that has them. You're an influencer, bro. It seems like. Smart guy. Yeah, everybody's worried about the brain. It's a good idea. Put the Guardian cap on.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Go back to the wired headphones. Let's make sure we're keeping his brain as safe as possible. Okay. Here we go. This is a big deal, Aaron. I just kind of laid it all out. The narrative that has been built quickly, and I think this is what happens with your life for everything you
Starting point is 00:18:32 do. There's a narrative that is built, and then you either decided for a long time to kill them with indifference and not answer a narrative, or whenever you came on our program and started doing as such and started opening up more to everybody, it was like you started kind of nipping things in the bud that had been growing for a long time.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Right now, the narrative that's growing around you is that you got Coach Sala fired because you hate Coach Sala. You didn't give him a hug, okay? You went to Egypt and you hate the guy. Now, I would love to offer you the floor to kind of explain how yesterday went down, your thoughts on it all, and how you think we got to this point that we're at with the New York Jets organization in 2024.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah, I mean, yesterday was a day that reminds you of the simple fact that all of us who played know all too well, and that's that it's a tough business. It's a beautiful profession. It's incredible. It's done so much for our lives, but it's also a really tough business. I love Coach Sala. We have a very solid relationship. We have since, you know, I met him in 2021 and had a nice conversation when they came and visited us for joint practices. He was a big reason why I came to the Jets. You know, I felt like the team, you know, was a solid team, had a relationship with Coach Hackett, obviously. And I really liked Coach Sala. Everything that Matt LaFleur said about him,
Starting point is 00:19:58 the few interactions I've had, the times that we went against him, I just had a lot of respect for him. And so, you know, it was just a reminder yesterday how tough the business is. I think what people can forget in this is not only is Robert a fantastic human being and a damn good football coach, he's also a family man. He's got seven kids. He's got an incredible wife. And the business of football can be hard, not just on those of us who are playing and coaching and doing personnel things and ownership, obviously,
Starting point is 00:20:33 but it's tough on the families. And I've got to know Robert's family over the last couple of years, and especially one of his kids, Adam. Adam's my little throwing buddy from training camp. Love Adam. He's an incredible, incredible kid. And, you know, so I'm thinking there's obviously a lot of emotions. But you think about the family and the kids as much as, you know, the people you love, your own family, who is the coaching staff and the players and what they're all going through. So, you know, anybody who's kind of championing this decision, I would just appeal to the humanity of the situation and remind you there's other people involved. And Adam has to go to school today, you know, possibly, or this week. And hopefully there's no, you know, kids with poor parents who are making
Starting point is 00:21:27 side comments to him. It's just a reminder there's a lot of things involved in this. As far as any of the ridiculous allegations out there, I'm not going to spend more than one sentence in response to it, and that is that I resent any of those accusations because they're patently false. And it's interesting the amount of power that people think that I have, which I don't. But I love Robert. And it was one of those days yesterday. So yesterday, thank you for saying all that. And obviously they'll take something you said there and chop it up and then say, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:10 that's the world we're in, journalistic standards. I don't care. Respect. Yesterday, there was a lot of things that came out, little tidbits from insiders. One of them was that, you know, Coach Sala was blindsided by it and everybody in the building was.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Is that an accurate depiction of how it all went down? Because then there was a report that you talked to the owner on Monday, you see. So you talked to the owner on Monday, then, you know, firing happens on Tuesday and that's why they started linking those things. How many of the reports have you heard about? And yesterday, was everybody in the building blindsided by this decision?
Starting point is 00:22:47 Week five, firing a head coach is a wild decision. I think everybody, but does everybody feel that way in the building? Yeah, I did talk to Woody. Woody called me on Monday night. We had a short conversation. I appreciated the call. It was a genuine call, and he just asked me how I was doing. Obviously, I got rolled up on the call. It was a genuine call, and he just asked me how I was doing. Obviously, I got rolled up on in the game, and my ankle got pretty banged up.
Starting point is 00:23:13 So he just called and was asking how I was doing. And we talked about the game and how disappointed I was in my performance and that I'm going to play better and we're going to get this thing turned around. And then we hung up. To that point, you know, Woody has no obligation to let me know of what his plans are. Whether or not he knew what he was doing in that moment is inconsequential. I just appreciated the call that he was checking on me. It was just like a friend call.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Like he would do, hey, man, I saw that hit in the game. You doing okay? And we had a nice short five-minute conversation, and then that was that. Okay, so everybody blindsided Tuesday by this decision, seemingly then. Well, I was in the training room doing rehab, and it's one of those things like in a John Wick movie. It's the best way to equate it where john wick
Starting point is 00:24:07 becomes excommunicado and then everybody at the continental's phone starts vibrating yeah it was it was it was kind of like that just through the building holy shit holy shit holy shit a lot of that type of reaction i mean there was you know there was a lot of uh you of conversations that happened after that. I mean, listen, football is a family atmosphere. You spend more time for many of us with these people than our own loved ones. So it's a tight-knit community. And I think everybody was feeling feeling for for Robert and and worried about him
Starting point is 00:24:49 go ahead AJ so you said Woody called you is that normal like is it normal for Woody to call you at you know random times after games or is that a specific uh like one-time affair did you get any kind of feeling like oh that was that was something more than him just checking on me? No. I mean, I felt it was a nice call, man. I was appreciative that he checked on me. We've talked on the phone a number of times over the last couple of years. He checked on me after my surgery. He checked on me during the rehab process. Christopher Johnson, his brother, you know, and I have a good relationship you know he'll he did the same thing he checked on me as well made sure i was okay um so it didn't seem nothing was abnormal i was actually really thankful you know for the call coach hackett have you talked
Starting point is 00:25:37 to him because his name obviously has been thrown into all of this quickly and how do you feel about his position and how do you feel about everybody in the building with him and all the drama that is seemingly surrounding you two's relationship well our relationship's great uh it it uh always has been and always will be i think um you know that there was going to be uh some things that needed to change regardless of, you know, what happened to Robert. And, you know, we just haven't been playing consistent football on offense. And as we know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So, you know, there was – when you have a couple games,
Starting point is 00:26:22 and obviously I didn't play well in either of them, but we just don't play very efficiently, you've got to adjust some things. So it's a part of our game. Change is part of our sport. And, you know, I know there's a lot of things that we're swirling out there, but at this point, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:41 Brick and I have talked a couple times, and, you know, I'm on board with whatever he decides as far as the offense goes. And I want to do what's best for the team, and we're throwing our support behind Coach Ulbrich, and whatever he believes is best for the team is what we're going to go with. You just called him Brick. That's a sweet nickname. So let's talk about Coach Brick real quick.
Starting point is 00:27:06 What changes? Yeah, I mean, I want to be respectful. It's Brick, I guess, when he's D.C., and maybe it's Coach Olbrich. Oh, full name. You know, to start here. Yeah, maybe just Coach Jeffy. Big Jeff. Yeah, Big Jeff.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Maybe that'll be the thing. And obviously, you know, Sala hired him. So, you know, like their relationship, I couldn't even fathom how close they are. That is the football business. That is how coaching trees happen because of how close people are and staying in touch and everything like that. Firing a coach after a weak fight,
Starting point is 00:27:37 you love the game of football more than anybody I've talked to. The history of it, the story, like the tradition of it, you're still wearing that stupid, you need to wear a different chin shirt, you know, all that stuff. You need to evolve a little bit. But I respect it because your old schoolness has you break an ankle and then not even miss a play and come back out, all of that thing.
Starting point is 00:27:55 But firing a coach after week five normally doesn't end up like, you know, great long term. What do you think Coach Brick is going to do with the opportunity here? And what do you think changes kind of going forward? Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure. I mean, I think out of deference and respect to Robert, you know, it's not going to be wholesale changes, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:28:21 But Brick's going to add his own style to it. You know, he does a great job with the defense. I've gone against him over the years in different coaching capacities. Believe that we were both playing at the same time too. So we have a lot of stories that overlap. And, yeah, I really enjoyed getting to know him last year, especially in the offseason, spending time with him. And he's got an incredible family as well. So I expect, you know, a steady hand from him and great
Starting point is 00:28:52 leadership. He's a former player, knows what it's like to be in the locker room, and I think he's going to do a great job. But the most important thing is that there has to be some change, even just the smallest change. We need as players to take accountability for what's happened. I think that's the thing that hits you too in the moment is, if I'd played better on Sunday, this doesn't happen. And as somebody who takes a lot of pride in their performance, that was the main sentiment for me yesterday. Obviously, heart going out to Robert because how much I respect him and care about him.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And then the just disappointment of poor play that could have avoided a situation like we had. So I think it's a good perspective moment for all of us to reset mentally. A lot of stuff is right in front of us. Starting with this week, a division opponent, a chance to get to 3-3 and be tied for the division lead. We have 12 games left. It's a long season. There's been years where we started slowly and finished really strong.
Starting point is 00:30:02 2016, we were 4-6 and won our last eight to get into the NFC Championship. 2012, we were 1-2 and went on a big run. There's always that run in the season where you hit it. You want to be playing the best in the winter months. And I think there's a lot that's in front of us. And I'm excited about getting back to it tomorrow. Yeah, Coach Sala said in his statement yesterday that
Starting point is 00:30:28 he was disappointed with the fact he didn't get the opportunity to make it right with what he feels is a very good locker room or very good roster or something like that. You still feel that way and Jets fans should still feel that way with everything that's happening. Everything that you guys dreamed
Starting point is 00:30:44 of whenever this Jets-Aaron Rodgers thing came together last season and then going into this season, still very much reality for these Jets fans when you look around in there? Well, you know how the league goes. Narratives can change very quickly in a matter of a few days or a week. Things can get flipped upside down. So, you know, it's just on us right now, I think, as players to really take accountability. Player cuts are less more dramatized than firing of a coach.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I would say that's probably a true statement for the most part. Obviously, there's been a few over the years that get national headlines, but the players are the ones out there playing. And, you know, we need to be accountable for our performances, all of us, myself first and foremost. And we got to fix that part. Great coaches have great players. You know, that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Obviously, they add their own personality to it. They add their own flair and style and leadership qualities and vision for the team and saying the right thing at the right moment and creating a player-led team that has the freedom to hold people accountable. But the restrictions and boundaries to keep some of the stragglers in line, that's an important part of it. But first and foremost, at the core of every great team is accountability. So we've got to be accountable to each other about our performances and be better, all of us. Let's talk about that a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:32:12 D-Bot has a question for you. Yeah, as a quarterback, you know, you're always under the microscope. So how do you, I guess, what helped you or who helped you? What process? Was it a person that helped you kind of block out those narratives? And now you're an older quarterback, an older veteran quarterback but there's young young quarterbacks dealing with as well and it's much harder for them i feel like to block out those narratives so who or what process helped you to kind of block those things out and just lock in on play
Starting point is 00:32:35 well i think part of it had to be db the uh the insulation of playing in green bay um you know it's it's a blessing and also a strain in its own ways because it is a small town. At the same time, it's the only show in town. So you learn a lot of really good lessons as a young player about how to keep your focus and perspective where it needs to be. There's always going to be narratives outside the building. Um, but you have to hold yourself to a certain standard and let that standard be your guiding principle, your North star, not what everybody else thinks or says about you. Um, easier said than done, especially as a young player. I think you got to go through some of the, the aches and pains and bumps and bruises and ups
Starting point is 00:33:21 and downs of, uh, of the early part and try and keep your confidence intact. A lot of that has to do with the process. You talk about the process of preparation and you're weak and you have to figure out what works best for you. Obviously, having sustained success kind of makes that a foundational part of what you're doing, but it's important to stick to that and not to deviate based on a win. Maybe I do a little bit less. I didn't have to study that much or a loss. Oh, I got to do way more. I got to just get in there and grind. Lock in. Lock in. Be in there five in the morning. I've just never subscribed to that way of doing things. I think you can figure out what works for you and then stick to the process.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Obviously fine tune and find little tiny ways to reset after a win or a loss. But it starts with being self-critical and being accountable to yourself and your teammates. After a win or loss, just go ahead and slam some ayahuasca and then just move the next one. Keep moving. All right, D-Butt? Okay, that's just what. It's funny. I used to talk a lot about drinking scotch. I'd always say, oh, tough game.
Starting point is 00:34:35 What are you going to do tonight? I'm like, probably have three or four fingers. Scotch. Now it's. Three or four fingers of scotch. Scotch, scotch, scotch. Scotch, D-Butt. Scotch. Three fingers I don't know what y'all are talking about You're talking about the fingers in the scotch
Starting point is 00:34:53 Come on Unbelievable this guy Mine's in the gutter Anyways, now you just do ayahuasca We get it Life changes Can I just set that narrative straight as well? I'm not a recreational ayahuasca user.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Okay. What? All right, all right. Put it on the table. A shaman has to be present. Okay, we got it. Okay, that is a narrative. Set it straight.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Enthusiast, yeah. Okay, that's fine. But not a recreational user, please. I don't want that. Is anybody on earth? You know the world better than me. Is anybody just a recreational i want you know what yeah i won't go to 10th dimension today and then the next day
Starting point is 00:35:30 and then the next day and then the next day is anybody doing that it's possible i would say to you might need to do some field research and go to burning man next year to kind of test that theory okay i don't think so. I'm 37. It's in the desert. It's in the Amazon jungle? No. No, it's in America. No, it's over there. I think it's left in the desert. It's right in Nevada, right? Anyways, AJ has a question for you.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Aaron, you mentioned obviously being insulated in Green Bay. What's that New York media market like? Is it what you thought coming in? What kind of challenges do head coaches have coaching there? I feel like it's obviously magnified compared to maybe other franchises.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yes, it should be. It should be. It's New York. It's one of the biggest cities in the world. It has iconic sports franchises that play, iconic players who played for those franchises. It's part of it. It's what you sign up for. I think it's can be a big positive. It's a great learning experience for all of our players, young and old. We have a lot of coverage on our team.
Starting point is 00:36:36 A lot of sources. Source. And I think it's important that we try and tune out some of the outside narrative as much as possible. That's how we're going to give ourselves a chance to turn this thing around and make a run. I hope you guys are able to do that. It would be a wild story. And I hope
Starting point is 00:36:56 if you guys go and win the Super Bowl, they give Sala a Super Bowl. Yeah. You know? For the entirety of it all. Let's talk about the game that happened in England. Shout out to England, by the way. Love when those games happen. One's happening this weekend, I believe 9.30 yet again in England. And if you get NFL Plus, you can stream NFL Network on NFL Plus.
Starting point is 00:37:16 So it's like, boom, you got it on there. They got it all. Did you enjoy? Obviously you didn't. AQ has a question for you. That's on me. That's 100% on me. Nothing good happened. That asshole. That's on me. That's 100% on me. Nothing good happened.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That asshole, that is on me. AQ has a question, though, about, you know, your trip over there. Yeah, Aaron, you saw Brian Flores, and he's getting a lot of hype on what he's been able to do this year. Question is, what was he doing on third down that was – actually, what is he doing, period, that is really good? And second, his third down package with the seven up, I mean, dropping guys out and bringing four to a side, whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You know, you see it on tape, and it just seemed like they'd bring something different every time. What did you see that he does differently? Well, they definitely had a couple wrinkles on third down. You know, for the most part, they were dropping interior guys coming in the plan, and they dropped Van genkel right into the throwing lane and he had to pick six on me which was a great play by him and disappointing
Starting point is 00:38:09 play obviously uh giving them seven there because our defense played so well but um i think it's more than just the seven up stuff obviously that's going to get the attention uh it's how you get to the seven up stuff and that's winning on first and second down because a lot of that shows up in the third and i would say five six plus plus, you know, which, you know, third and four to six, those are manageable third downs. Third and seven extended are a little more difficult, but it always comes down as you know, a Q2 protection on those downs. And if you're bringing an extra guy,
Starting point is 00:38:38 then we can block based on the pre-snap look. It forces you sometimes to make some adjustments, whether in protection or routes to get the ball out um and i think the what's lost maybe in the conversation around b flow which he deserves a lot of credit uh he's done a really nice job is how good they've been on first second down and that's to me what they're doing on first second down is a lot of movement up front and uh some different types of fronts um they're uh in-down personnel and running four-down spacing in some of these fronts, which is obviously different. Now, there's been some teams that have done that, whether it's playing an over-front, as the Rams have done at times with Aaron Donald and trying to find singles for him.
Starting point is 00:39:20 They were in more of what I call a G- front and even even g front where there's a three tech backside and a two eye front side and out of that what they can do because most teams uh will if it's a pass play we'll put as you know aq we'll put five on five in that situation i've created different types of leverage points now you have a center slide into a two eye you have a guard slide into a five and a tackle slide into a nine backside, you have a three and a whatever you want to call the open end. But what they do out of that is they'll fire the will at times. So they're taking the back out of the route concept. And so you're eliminating checkdowns and doing what we call, I like to call replacement fire
Starting point is 00:40:03 zones where they're still in bringing four or five guys, five in this case in base. So they have athletic guys on the edge like Van Ginko who can drop in the coverage. And so you've eaten up the back based on being a 345G front or even a 325 front. And now you've eliminated the check down and also not eliminated a player in the coverage scheme. So very, very good scheme by him. And and the execution, though, obviously is the most important thing, because like you said, they have all the different looks with different guys, different spots. And they can play to sky from it. They can play straight up Tampa, too.
Starting point is 00:40:40 They can play where the corners are, the half field players. They can bring everybody. They can play one night on that. They can play where the corners are. The half field players, they can bring everybody. They can play one night out of that. They can play 44 man out of that. They can do a lot of different things. It's a credit to obviously how they practice and the flexibility they have with those players in those positions. You have to have super
Starting point is 00:40:55 intelligent defense. The players have to this is kind of like what was happening with the Chiefs last year at the end where Spag said, I have 11 guys that know everybody's job. You have to be able to do that with the Vikings defense. And I looked at your guys' schedule here and just got reminded, you guys have played the Vikings defense, Broncos defense, and Niners defense here in the first five weeks.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Welcome to 2024 football, baby. Let's go ahead and get that thing sorted. Now, against the Vikings, there was a moment that had us all worried. Aaron, go ahead, comment. Yeah, Aaron, when you got bent back there, it looked very, very bad, and then obviously you came right back out on the field. When it did happen, was there any worry or PTSD going back to last year? I assume a lot of Jets fans were feeling that right away.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And then if you haven't yet, there were some great memes from that photo and that play, and they're all funny now since you didn't get hurt seriously. Back to the meme so i'm just a good there's a bunch coming out today too yeah you're a mean machine there's already yeah i don't know if it's right yeah it was very very painful as i was going down my foot was caught i've been rolled up on before but maybe not, my foot was caught. I've been rolled up on before, but maybe not with my foot being caught in this way. Usually it's, you know, maybe ankle is caught or, you know, your knee is going, but a lot of times you can kind of like wiggle out of that or something happens where the pressure gets alleviated, but that didn't happen. So for me, there was a, it's interesting, a really good question by UBC because there was a split second where I remembered what happened last year when I got up. Because every player's worst fear, I think, is being carted off the field.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And for me, having been hurt a handful of times, I always want to just get off the field. Let me get off the field. If I've got to take a cart, I just don't want to take it from the field. Just get me off the field. And when I stood up last year and my heel hit the ground, the, the, the dread that filled my mind was, damn, that's bad, you know? And so as bad as I was feeling in that moment, I just wanted to stand up. And in that moment, there was the memory of that feeling. And when my foot hit the ground, there was a total relief that came over me as I realized, okay, I don't think anything's broken. Let me just walk off here. And then I was just teasing one of our equipment guys, Jim, there was an interesting moment where I'm walking around
Starting point is 00:43:24 the back of the bench to go to the blue tent. and I hear the crowd do something. So I'm like, oh, is that like a partial block punt, bad punt, good punt, whatever. And I realized that Timo just got roughed. But a lot of times, as you know, Pat, there's not a lot of protection for the punters and it's very rare actually you get the 15 yarder. Most of the time it's just a five. And so I kind of waited. And when I saw him do the personal foul signal, then I was thinking, to my right is the blue tent. To my left is Jimmy from the equipment staff holding my helmet. He doesn't quite realize what's going on. And I looked over at him. I actually told him this just a little bit ago. And I saw him I saw him. I said, I want to thank you because you gave me that 1% extra. Took it over the 50-50
Starting point is 00:44:07 mark where I was thinking, maybe I should probably get this taped up right now and just checked real quick. But when I saw Jimmy hold my helmet, I was like, nah, I'm going to go back out there. Jimmy! Now if something terrible happens in the next play, Jimmy, Jimmy, kind of on you.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Why'd you let that guy have it? That's on me. They're they're on jim they're on jim okay respect yeah that's that's on me you jogging back out there though i think a lot of people are like this dude's a madman because remember you're supposed to be prima donna california hippie you know this whole thing yada yada yada i am some i am some of those things for sure uh i'm we should clarify which ones you agree you are because you know once, once again, mean machine. There will be responses from other people. But you are a hippie from California.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Berkeley was awesome, by the way. Hey. Hey, shout out Berkeley, man. Shout out Coach Wilcox. Shout out the man, the myth, the legend, Marshawn Lynch. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He's the best. Dude. You have no idea how much's the best. He's the best. You have no idea how much of the best he is. Actually, I think I told you how much of the best he is, what he showed up with, how he showed up, the way the whole thing. It was just – and everybody's like, yeah, absolutely, it's Marshawn Lynch. I think the entire world is just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:19 Marshawn can do whatever the hell he wants. Amen. That's what Marshawn Lynch is. He's awesome. Say whatever he wants. Do whatever he wants. Be loved. Talk about power. That's who Marshawn Lynch is. He's awesome. Say whatever he wants. Do whatever he wants. Be loved. Talk about power. That's power.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Yeah, Marshawn could have done whatever he wanted. Choke Kirk Herbstreit. Boom. Could have put him to sleep. Who's going to do what about it? I guess I would be the one that would have to because I'm right next to him. But then also, Sean, pretty good TV. I guess you just choked out Kirk Herbstreit right there because you disagreed with a Virginia Tech-Stanford pick.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I mean, that is certainly something that could happen. But nonetheless, Berkeley was awesome. You're a California hippie. So whenever those types of plays happen, I think, you know, we all get reminded quickly, like, this is a guy who's – what year is this for you? 20. Three head coaches.
Starting point is 00:46:04 You're a coach killer. You heard that? I have not heard that. Yeah, there was a couple. I'm telling you. I wouldn't worry about it, Aaron. He's just flopping his gums. Well, I mean, I don't know who said it exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I do. I'm done with it. Okay, all right. Gumpy, not the biggest fan of whoever started that entire thing, but three coaches, 20 years. Is this the first time this type of situation happened here, week five, for you? Week five, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I mean, Mike was let go in 2018. And, I mean, just like this one, I, you know, had no foreknowledge of any of it. That was, you know, after a real bad loss to Arizona. And we honestly weren't that good in 2018. I think we were 4-6-1 at the time. If Ty was here, he could probably fact check me. Congrats, Ty.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Yeah, congrats, Ty. But that was hard in its own way because Mike and I had been together for 13 years. And he had believed in me and stood by me in 2008. And that was a very strange, strange time for sure. And every situation is different. Like I said, I came to new york part of the reason was because how much i believe in robert sala so every situation is is different um again like i
Starting point is 00:47:34 said before it's a reminder uh we're so fortunate to play this game and it's a beautiful incredible profession that have given all of us all of you guys as well, everybody in the back, such an incredible opportunity in life to live. I think about the late, great Bill Walton. And every time I saw Bill, whether to me or someone else, and I never understood why he said it to me, but he would say one of his favorite sayings was, thank you for my life. And I always thought that was so cool. He he just, he lived his life with a gratitude for all the amazing things that happened and talk about a guy with stories, everything from playing for Jack Ramsey and, and,
Starting point is 00:48:13 and playing for the Celtics to winning championships, UCLA and John Wooden, being a grateful dead, you know, super fan, best friends with, with all those guys. And all he lived his life with was such gratitude. And I think that's the other reminder is, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:33 is just gratitude for the time to be in the league, gratitude for my time with Robert, for the conversations, for the lessons, for the golf, for the fun times, for the jokes, for the hugs, which there were quite a few. No. Not quite a few. There was a few. There could have been one more for sure.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Could have been one more for sure. Could have been one. Right on the sideline. Could have been one more. After a cool play. Yeah. But this game has given all of us a lot. But it's also a tough business.
Starting point is 00:49:06 AJ, what do you got, bub? You aaron that you you uh were in the training room when you found out like whatever time it was in the morning what how long do you stay at the facility like there's no protocol on how you handle something like that what do you do especially as a guy in your situation like do you feel like i gotta walk around and rally the troops like what happened well my first priority starting the day was rehab. You know, I'm trying to, trying to, uh, get my, my leg to feel a little bit better. Uh, so I was in there, uh, early doing rehab and, um, then that obviously, uh, you know, changed the direction of the day for all of us. Um, I, I knew that the schedule was going to
Starting point is 00:49:43 change and that something, you know, there was going to be, uh, you know, there wasn't going to be a 1250, uh, special teams meeting and quarterbacks at the same time. Um, so I just, I think my message was just, you know, just get to the facility and be ready for, uh, you know, a different type of day. The leadership council met with the ownership to start, and then we were informed that Brick was going to take over. And then there was a team meeting, and then we had some individual meetings. So, again, it was a different schedule for the day. But, yeah, I was in there doing doing rehab and that's when i found out so leadership council meets with ownership after the announcement before the coach olbrich announcement
Starting point is 00:50:31 and then does ownership address team no no at the same at the same time yeah oh same time we we met we met uh it was you know it was after the announcement i don't i can't remember exactly how much time had passed, but then there was a text about the leadership council meeting with management and Woody and Chris Johnson, and then Brick was in there, and he addressed us, and then we had a team meeting, and it was very similar just with the rest of the team.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Got it. Okay. Well, hey, thank you for joining us, clarifying your side of the entire situation because your side was being given to the internet there for a while. You're a mean machine. And we wish you and the New York Jets luck the rest of
Starting point is 00:51:18 the season this week. Big one on Monday Night Football. Obviously, today is your Tuesday off day. We appreciate you chit-chatting here in between treatment sessions and good luck on Monday Night,. Obviously, today is your Tuesday off day. We appreciate you chit-chatting here in between treatment sessions, and good luck on Monday night, brother. Yeah, I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for being flexible. Obviously, yesterday's schedule
Starting point is 00:51:32 got kind of thrown all around, and this was better because we would have only had a few minutes yesterday. But, you know, just to finish this, you know, I think I just want to say, first of all, like, thank you to Robert. Like, thanks for bringing me in and getting on board with that. You know, just publicly, obviously,
Starting point is 00:52:00 there's, you know, words that we share privately, but, you know, I'm thankful for Robert. I'm thankful for his leadership for our team. I'm thankful for the conversations that we were able to have and him trusting me and the way he cared about his players and a big love out to his family, wife, their kids, especially Adam, sending you a big hug, buddy. And just remember there's a human side to this. There's the humanity in all this and there's a family, an extended family that's really hurting so
Starting point is 00:52:32 when you're out there as the internet does and as people do celebrating this in whatever way you do just remember there's a human aspect to it, when it comes to me I don't feel like I need to defend myself or say anything. There's always going to be narratives out there and conversations around what I think
Starting point is 00:52:51 and how much power I have and how much influence I have. It's not something I worry about. It's really not. I care about my teammates. I care about winning. I'm accountable to myself, my organization, my teammates. I got to play better. I'm accountable to myself, my organization, my teammates. I got to play better. I will. And we're getting behind brick and there'll be, you know, there'll be some changes with this.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And that's the direction we're going to go. But we're going to stand behind brick and we have a lot to play for. And yesterday was about remembering how tough this game is. And today is about moving forward and embracing the changes that are coming, the changes that have already been made, and sticking together. And it's a time for us as players to lock arms with each other and find that belief inside of us because that's the only way that we can inspire the belief in our fan base to get behind us in the right way. So I appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And I'm going to go home and relax a little bit and look forward to tomorrow. Hell yeah. Hey, we appreciate you. That was a good speech, brother. That was a good speech. Let's go run through a wall for the New York Jets. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Aaron!
Starting point is 00:54:11 That was a good speech. It was great. I think that's the same one he gave the team yesterday. I assume that was a group text there. It seemed like we got to rally together maybe to the team. It sounded like he did speak to the team. The leadership council meeting with management, he said. Okay, so that's ownership and I assume general manager
Starting point is 00:54:26 and I assume Brick was in there as well going through it all. Interesting, man. Just in the fifth week going into the sixth week of the season for that to happen. Wild. Anytime. And then obviously with Aaron Rodgers being dropped into it, being Aaron Rodgers, I mean, that's a whole nother.
Starting point is 00:54:42 What a situation there. Very thankful he stopped by to clarify his stance on it all, AJ. Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, I don't know how many people other than Woody knew of the decision or if it was just Woody. Yeah, to think now, okay, what's the plan going forward? Brick's got to find a way to bring everybody together. It's a big task, man.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I'm looking forward to see how they handle it. They're putting out some stats about Woody Johnson's time as the owner of the Jets. It seems like there is. You lose, you make this decision, this thing happens, it's going to get loud. The thought of ownership potentially, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:17 seeing headlines and hearing from friends. Remember Mara, the owner of the Giants, went on the record and said in an interview he was sick of telling his friends and explaining to his friends of the Giants, went on the record and said in an interview he was sick of telling his friends and explaining to his friends why the Giants suck at football. They spent money. When Aaron says there's a human aspect to the Coach Salas side,
Starting point is 00:55:34 there's a human aspect to these bazillionaires that own teams too. A lot of pride, a lot of ego, a lot of combos potentially. Maybe he did just wake up and say, I'm done with it. Fired. Maybe. First time he's ever done it in the middle, but we will learn eventually maybe he did just wake up and say i'm done with it fired maybe we don't know first time he's ever done it in the middle but we will learn i assume inevitably this story will continue to evolve and grow and i hope we get a chance to hear it so coach sulla and his large family yes very
Starting point is 00:55:57 large adam and aaron had handshake actually training kid remember had like their own handshake in that entire thing people don't talk about that or forget about that. It's like I think you are going to have a much happier life wherever you go to next, and he's D coordinator. For sure. That's right. I think. Some places. Some places he can end up.
Starting point is 00:56:13 But in that Jets building, it is still a very long season left. They don't have the toughest schedule. Still have a very talented roster. So, the first message is, hey, everything you want is still out there. You know, it's not like the season has slipped away or we got this rookie quarterback we're trying to develop like you still have the pieces you still in the vision you can win so it's still all out there for the jets and absolutely bumble knows it's hard to start conversations hey, too basic. Hi there. Still no. What about hello, handsome?
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Starting point is 00:57:33 Day, October 9, 2024. Our tour of the program starts now. Football! It's wonderful. Football is awesome. We're lucky to talk about it. We just had a great conversation with Aaron Rodgers about the situation happening around the New York Jets. That's former teammate of Aaron Rodgers
Starting point is 00:57:49 and best friend of Aaron Rodgers and all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Hawker. A.J., did you see the reaction? Seems like everybody isn't sticking with their original opinion. That doesn't seem like it. Really? No, that is happening.
Starting point is 00:58:04 That is happening. Presented new facts. Don't care. That doesn't seem like it. No, that is happening. That is happening. Presented new facts. Don't care. Don't want to read them. Don't want to hear them. That's not all I believed yesterday. And for the good of how I feel about my take yesterday, I'm sticking by it.
Starting point is 00:58:16 So you can eat shit. That is what a lot of people, I think, are saying. Others, I think, are pumped, especially in the Jets fan base, saying, you know what? Okay, here we go. Seems like Brick is a guy that people like. His coach has still pumped, especially in the Jets fan base, saying, you know what? Okay, here we go. Seems like Brick is a guy that people like. His coach has still got a belief in the roster. And we pointed out, I pointed out to them,
Starting point is 00:58:32 they played the Niners, the Broncos, and the Vikings defense in the first five weeks. They're two and three. So for a coach to even get fired after that onslaught, that could be a tough defense play against. But they've got to feel good about the future on the field with how they've played, and Aaron even alluded to it. Seems like once a year, there's a run that we go
Starting point is 00:58:50 on, and he said we, and I think he was talking about himself, the offense he runs, Hackett, seemingly the team that he's on, and I think this defense is better than a lot of defenses he ever had for the Green Bay Packers. It's like, sounds like he still has belief that a season can be had here, AJ. Yeah, and for Greeny and the rest of the Jets It sounds like he still has belief that a season can be had here, AJ. Yeah, and
Starting point is 00:59:06 for Greeny and the rest of the Jets fans, like D-Butt said, everything's out in front of them. It's true. Usually when a coach is getting fired, like, alright, here we go, pack it in, season is over. This is one of those rare situations where, no, it's actually not, especially with the schedule and the roster. They could make some noise. Let's go to the Toxic Table, always
Starting point is 00:59:21 level-headed. At Boston Connor and A.Q. Shipley sitting in for Ty. Congrats, Ty. Con man, what you hear there of the AFC? Still wide open? Yeah, I mean, if I'm a Jets fan, I feel good about it, honestly. And we just popped up the schedule there. There aren't many games on that schedule where you look at it and you say,
Starting point is 00:59:37 oh, there's no way the Jets are going to win that football game. Maybe you could argue the Texans. Colts, Colts, stuff them. They'll definitely beat the shit out of the Colts. But aside from that. You better could argue the Texans. Colts, Colts, tough one. They'll definitely beat the shit out of the Colts, but aside from that... You better watch your tongue, brother. Honestly, that's the one I look at. I'm like, okay, that's a certified win.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Especially because it's not at the lot house. But no, it really is wide open. Oh, because Fireman Ed's going to be here? Yeah, of course. And he's going to have his cadence on. You think Joey Flack's worried about Fireman Ed doing it? Joey Flack? I would. You think Joey Flack's worried about Fireman Ed? Joey Flack? I would love to see Joey Flack's record with Fireman Ed in the building because I assume he's on the Jets, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:12 No, I'm talking about when he was with the Ravens. He was 0-4, and yeah, that's a great point, actually. When you're playing for the Jets, it probably wasn't too hot either. But no, it's crazy that a defensive head coach who's had a great defense through the first five weeks has been fired, which is still nuts. But, no, if I'm a Jets fan, I'm thinking, hey, division title still very much on the board and going to the playoffs and making a run still very much on the board. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:38 We talked about this yesterday, and we'll have Adam Schefter joining us here in a matter of moments, I believe. Yep, okay. I can't wait. He's on right now? Okay, never mind. Let's forget you, in a matter of moments, I believe. Yep, okay. I can't wait to chit-chat. He's on right now? Okay, never mind. Let's forget you, A.C. Shut up, A.Q.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Forget you. Nine-year NFL fan, Darius J. Barber. Good to see you. Good to be here. Forget you, one half of the hammer. Cowboys, A.P. Tone. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. If you can tell, Schefter looks very flexible right now because he did a
Starting point is 01:01:06 two-hour stretching routine this morning that we caught him in the middle of. Two hours? It could have been. How are you feeling? You feel good, Schefter? Feel okay, Pat. Yeah, I feel okay. We're hanging in there. Hey, we'll look alive. We're in the middle of football season, Schefter.
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's great. I'll tell you what. There are no shortage of storylines in the National Footbally. It's great. I'll tell you what. There are no shortage of storylines in the National Football League. It's unbelievable. It's a tidal wave of storylines that come at you every single day. Amen. So let's talk about the one that we just got done kind of having a conversation that's going to be adding to a storyline
Starting point is 01:01:38 in a pretty big way. Aaron comes on, tells the way his day went yesterday. He said he was in the training room whenever he found out. He did talk to Woody on Monday, but it was a quick conversation about his ankle and how he was feeling, which Woody Johnson just wanted to see how it was going. From your standpoint, I don't know if you heard the entire conversation with Aaron, but is there any information that you have learned of the situation
Starting point is 01:01:57 that maybe we didn't hear or didn't cover or from a different angle out of the entire situation yesterday of Salah getting fired? Look, I might be naive, but I thought Aaron came off as very believable. I really did. Like, Woody Johnson calling to check in on his ankle, that sounds plausible. Short conversation, sounds plausible. He's in the training room when he hears. I believe all that. Now, I believe also that this had been coming for a long time. There were conversations at the end of last season about whether or not they should make a change. They didn't make the change. They obviously were
Starting point is 01:02:29 thinking about it. At least Woody Johnson was thinking about it all along. And if we go back, I know it's Woody's organization and he is the final say on everything. But the fact of the matter is that when Robert Sala was hired, he also was serving as the ambassador for the United States and the United Kingdom. And I still think that Christopher Johnson was the guy that made the call. He doesn't make the call without Woody's blessing, but Christopher Johnson hires him. And I don't know that Robert Sala was ever Woody's guy. So you had that in the background the entire time.
Starting point is 01:03:03 What's interesting is the margin in this league is so small, right? If they win that game on Sunday, does Robert Sala get fired yesterday? And I would say the answer to that would be no, that they would keep rolling with him. But they had two bad back-to-back losses. The last one comes in England, where Woody was an ambassador, where he's got lots of friends. And in my mind, that probably was the last straw. And he decided to make the change for something that had been on his mind that he had thought about. And I would imagine that we'll hear more and more about this particular situation. There'll
Starting point is 01:03:35 be more and more storylines that emerge. Oh, did you hear this happen? Did you hear that happen? But I don't believe that Aaron ordered that firing or was in on the firing or anything like that after listening to Aaron Rodgers. I don't. Okay, so knowing Woody a lot better than us two, I would assume as well. And you said, you know, he potentially felt as if Robert Sala was never his guy. Did Robert Sala know that from Woody? And you said this is potentially a long time coming and maybe just a cherry on top being being in england in front of the lads that you had built up your ambassador friendship with around town and losing and flying home with that
Starting point is 01:04:11 entire thing do you think coach sala knew there was a possibility this happening during the season i think when anybody works anywhere you know the relationships you have with certain people you know who you feel like is in your corner and who is not in your corner. I don't think it was any different with Robert Sala. I'm sure he knew that there were feelings that existed between he and Woody, whatever those were. And again, I'm sure he felt support, but I'm sure he felt the situation being tenuous as well, both. So in the end, ultimately, he loses his job. He has a year left in his contract after the season. And the one thing I could say is, even yesterday, I heard from a number of coaches across the league. They're like, Robert Sala, great coach.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He's going to have zero, zero problem getting another head coaching or defensive coordinator job, defensive coordinator job. Like all his friends would be interested, I think, in bringing him back to their staffs. San Francisco, Matt LaFleur is his good friend. Adam Peters in Washington is his good friend. He's got so many good friends across the league, and he's so respected. Robert Sala is going to have options next year
Starting point is 01:05:18 about where he wants to work, in my mind. You think next year, right? Because that was a media thought by some fan base. It was like, all right, let him go on a vacation here, get past it two, three weeks, four weeks, and then boom, drop him in as defensive coordinator for the playoff stretch down the road. You think definitely no coaching this year for Coach Sala? You know, that's a hard question to answer because I think Robert has to take some time. I will say this. I do think that working in this market affected him. I think he got a little bit beat up mentally. I think that it wore him down a little bit.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I think it drained some of the enthusiasm that he had for the game. I think that, unfortunately, he let all the outside noise get to him at times. And to do that job in any market requires you to put on the blinders and block out the noise as best as you can. And inevitably, you can't tune out all that noise. And if you're a human being, it's hard not to let it affect you in some type of way. And in this particular case, I think coaching in New York got him a little bit. And it's not an easy job to be a head coach in the NFL anywhere,
Starting point is 01:06:32 but it's especially difficult doing it in New York. And it's especially difficult when you're losing games. And it's especially difficult when you're in the New York market, you're losing games, and you have the owner that didn't hire you to begin with. You put all that together and it wears you out.
Starting point is 01:06:49 So, so in my mind, he's got to take a little bit of time, decompress in another month or two. He might want to come back and coach the playoffs. In all probability, there's no rush to get back into anything. It's more important for him to be with his family and his children.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And there'll be a job waiting for him after the season, a job of his choosing, waiting somewhere, and he can go do that at that point in time. There's no need to rush back in to go do something right now when you've been through the mental ordeal that you've been through the last four or so years. So my guess would be that he's going to be sidelined for the remainder of the season. He'll be back next season, but let's see how he feels in another month or two. I'm just learning of the aspect and the thought of him
Starting point is 01:07:33 knowing that the owner doesn't think he's his guy either. And then every time the media says anything, he's like, that might be the owner, literally. That might be the owner feeding. Like just the mental games that that could play to your point about being exhausting, I would assume that does get a bit exhausting. And I actually led the show talking about the situation about
Starting point is 01:07:52 when Salah leaves the Niners, he's like charismatic, jovial, array of energy, literally on the field. Right. You could see the highlights of him on the sideline, jumping around, running with it. Did you see that with the Jets? Well, he's told by Ernie. A little subdued, right?
Starting point is 01:08:09 What am I here for? Can't act like myself. Yeah, and with the Niners, they were dominating everybody. That was so much fun for him. Just going after it, and then you start losing, then owner, whatever the case. Hopefully he does get back into the game sooner than later for us. But for himself, hopefully he does find that football joy again. Not saying he lost his passion, but the joy is what we really enjoyed over there in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Go ahead, AJ. Shefty, where does the Jets GM Joe Douglas fall in all of this? I don't hear him getting brought up a lot. Are he and Woody on the same page? Like, was he aware of this? Have you heard anything about that? I'm sure Joe had to be aware of it in advance. And I'm sure that Woody told Joe because I can't imagine an owner just firing a head coach and the GM getting an alert that your head coach has been fired.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Like, that's not practical in today's day and age. I don't know when he knew, but obviously he had to know. And Joe Douglas is in his own challenging situation with his contract being up after this year. So if I could probably go inside the mind of Woody for a moment, he probably says, okay, you know what? We have, in my mind, the best roster that we've had during my ownership as the New York Jets, including teams that under Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum went to back-to-back AFC championship games. He believes, right or wrong, that this roster is better and more talented.
Starting point is 01:09:31 So now I'm going to pick a guy that I think is very well respected in this locker room, a guy that I think is going to bring some energy. Let's see what Jeff Ulbrich does with this opportunity. We got a GM who's on the last year of his deal. And if they have the type of run that Woody is hoping, maybe he runs it back with everybody. And if he doesn't, then he's got no obligations to anybody to do anything. And he gets start over.
Starting point is 01:09:58 So literally, he's got all the options out in front of him. And it'll be up to this team to determine how he handles the organization going forward the interim coaching success rate not great if you go through the history and then getting the job back and having success in the future and everything they're bringing that up with the raiders right now with antonio pierce not that it's fair i'm just saying that is what brings up these stats the jets are going to be added to that from what you're saying though it sounds like woody johnson, let's try to go on a run. I like the talent of the roster.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I asked you on Monday after that Jets game where Garrett Wilson was targeted like 23 times or 22 times and Alan Lazar got the ball a little bit, but nobody else really. Did this expedite the Devontae Adams trade talk to the Jets because they need another weapon maybe? Because if they score a touchdown there, they just beat the undefeated Vikings.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Maybe Devontae opens that up for them to do do that you said you didn't think that expedited now fire coach head coach that is our jets off the table for davante adams and trade talks or are they going all in here for this what what uh how do you think they they view the situation for davante well here's where it stands in my mind. We are now at Wednesday afternoon, 1.15 Eastern. And the fact that there has been no Devontae Adams trade this week would tell you that any Devontae Adams trade is going to wait another week now. Because in the NFL, most every big move transactionally, if it's a trade, is going to occur Monday and Tuesday while teams are coming up with their game plans, getting ready to be on the practice field Wednesday. I think if we went back and looked at all the big trades that are made in season, very few of them are made once you get past Tuesday in season.
Starting point is 01:11:38 So we are at a spot now where it looks like the Raiders are going to be paying Devontae Adams another $970,000 this week not to play another game. And another situation where last week we thought the Jets and the Saints were the most logical landing spots. Well, the Jets lost another game. Owner's not happy. Owner fires head coach. I don't know if they're thinking about trading for a wide receiver. Certainly not with what the Raiders are asking for, which is a second-round draft pick.
Starting point is 01:12:08 The Saints lose their quarterback to an oblique injury. He's going to miss, it sounds like, multiple games right now. We'll see when Derek Carr can make it back. So by the time he gets back, are they still in the thick of the playoff race? Can their new quarterback, whoever it is, keep them afloat until they want to get back there? As Devontae is enthused about being traded to New Orleans today. So the Jets and the Saints both have taken some hits in the last week here that you wouldn't have imagined. And I do think that that's opened the window for some other teams to just kind of snip around
Starting point is 01:12:38 and see what it might be and just kind of lurk on the outside in the event that things fall through with the two teams that Devontae initially wanted to play for, which were the Jets and the Saints. All right, well, he's probably coming to the Colts, which is good news for us. Alec Pierce, Josh Downs, Michael Pittman, and Devontae Adams with Joey Flax. With Flax. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Anthony Richardson. Yeah, Joey Flax, Anthony Richardson, Jonathan Taylor's going to get healthy. He's going to be back there. I mean, the Colts are in it. Don't you worry about it. I don't know that for sure, but in my mind, we're definitely in there. Let's go back to the Jets here. Tone has a question for you, Shefty.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah, Shefty, Aaron talked about how the offense hasn't been great, and there was the rumors about Hackett and what he was going to be as a play caller or not. He's going to respect whatever Coach Ulbrich decides to do on the offensive side of the ball. I saw the report that potentially Todd Downing, who used to be the Titans OC, could take over play calling there. Have you heard anything situationally about the OC situation in New York?
Starting point is 01:13:39 Good question, Tony, and I would say this, that Aaron and his answer there to me were quite revealing. That was very interesting because that certainly sounded like somebody who had an idea that Todd Downing might be the play caller. And obviously that had been an issue that had come up this past week. And the fact that he said that leads me to believe that Todd Downing... Did you just put news through Aaron's mouth? You knew that was the – is that what just happened there? No, no, no. I'm reading between the lines.
Starting point is 01:14:07 If he's saying I'm good with however this is going to go, right, clearly there's a decision that has to be made. And if he's bringing that up, that he's good with however it's going to go, and there's a new record. Look, here's the bottom line. Here's the bottom line. I was told this. Aaron confirmed it.
Starting point is 01:14:24 We move forward. Is that what you're going to say? You know, Pat, I think you should give up this gig and become an insider and get right to the point and go over the news to my interview. No way. I couldn't fathom your life. I wouldn't want it. But it is interesting how your answer went there.
Starting point is 01:14:39 So let me get back to my bottom line. Yes, please. Jeff Ulbrich is the new head coach. Jeff Ulbrich gets to decide who's going to be calling plays Monday night to get back to my bottom line yes please jeff albrecht is the new head coach jeff albrecht gets to decide who's going to be calling plays monday night against buffalo and for the remainder of the season with him being a head coach that is his first big decision the fact that it's even up as a decision to me it's sort of like a coach who says well we're thinking about making a quarterback change once you start having that out there that you're thinking about to me it's sort of like a coach who says, well, we're thinking about making a quarterback change. Once you start having that out there that you're thinking about, to me, it's in the process of happening.
Starting point is 01:15:11 It's in motion. So we'll wait to see what Jeff Ulbrich decides. Maybe he sticks with Daniel Hackett as the offensive coordinator, or maybe he decides to go with some new ideas here and go with Todd Downing. Got it. Okay, new head coach, new situation. Does he change anything with a defender they have on the roster? Chef Dave, you heard anything about Hassan Redick,
Starting point is 01:15:32 and is there any status of him eventually showing up to this team, or is this just a lost cause? Yeah, because Woody was recruiting. Woody was openly recruiting yesterday. He's like, you know what, I got a microphone. Let's drive on down. Prior to coach, Hassan Redick, you come on back. Get in your car.
Starting point is 01:15:45 On 95. Come on up. When is the last time that you've heard like an owner making a public plea to a player to come in, right? Yeah, legit. That's why yesterday was a big day for old Woody. He's out there swinging the water around. Do we think this is getting settled? Money, right?
Starting point is 01:16:02 Well, here's what I would say on Son Reddick. There have been a lot of ups and downs in this situation a lot that's gone on behind the scenes and ultimately until he's in there in the facility which who knows if it'll ever happen he's not there like there have been a handful of times where I think people thought it was getting close where he would come in and he didn't. So we could think he might be coming in today and he doesn't. We could think he might be coming in and he doesn't. Again, there have been a lot of false alarms in this Hasan Reddick situation, more than probably people realize. And it hasn't happened. And Hassan obviously is bothered by a lot of different things that have gone on.
Starting point is 01:16:52 He's disappointed by the fact that he hasn't gotten a contract. He's not there. He's still not there now. You know what? With all due respect to Woody, rather than making a public plea, why isn't Woody getting his own escort and drive and go visit with Hassan and make that same person? Helicopter, maybe. Just make it a quicker trip so you don't have to do anything else.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Isn't it better to do that face-to-face than through the media? That's what I would do. If I owned the team and it was that important to me, I would get in front of that guy and explain to him how important you are to our team and how much it would mean for you to come in and what a difference you can make and say whatever it is that you can do for him. Let him hear from you in person rather than on a conference call to the reporters. So we're assuming that hasn't happened yet behind closed doors, it sounds like.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Not that I know of. Maybe it has, but not that I know of. Why doesn't he just take one of those ice dot necklaces down there and say, hey, listen, you want 30 million worth of these every single year, you got it. Okay, I'll just start unloading these. If Woody Johnson is able to recruit Hasan Reddick back into the fold this year
Starting point is 01:17:50 after doing that, and then Hasan Reddick has a good season and the Jets go on to win a Super Bowl, Woody Johnson is going to be floating in a helicopter above every building like Jerry Jones does. Could you fathom that? I mean, there's a lot on the line here for the Woody Johnson conversation going forward. Now let's talk about conversations happening in other places, maybe text messages.
Starting point is 01:18:07 D-Bot has a question for you. Yeah, Adam, I believe it was kind of maybe around this time, maybe a few weeks later last season, when you said seven, potentially eight new head coaches would be coming in because guys would be fired. Obviously, we just had our first one with Robert getting fired. Any potential coaches on the hot seat, or is it too early for that? Well, D-Butt, it's never too early, I guess, to dial up the pressure. It's always hunting season in the NFL. Again, I've already had people call me.
Starting point is 01:18:35 You know, the funny thing is, this is true, I had an owner call me on Monday, and he's like, how many openings are we expecting this year? And I thought it was an interesting question, and it was the first time it had come up until you now have asked me a second time. And we kind of went over teams. And we counted on Monday, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, eight potential, potential spots. Now, again, I don't think it'll be that many.
Starting point is 01:19:02 I don't think it'll be that many. But there are like eight places that you're looking at and you're saying, here's a spot I'm watching, including the Jets. We have that listed. And he was asking about that. And then sure enough, on Tuesday, like 12 hours later, the Jets fire Robert Sala. And the fact of the matter is there are six, seven, eight changes every year in the NFL. And the chances are that there'll be six,
Starting point is 01:19:29 seven, eight more after this season. It's just how things go. It's, it's become part of the sport. Vrabel is available. Belichick's available. There's a,
Starting point is 01:19:38 you know, numerous Sloic Johnson. Yeah. Pete Carroll. I mean, there's a lot of names out there for owners to potentially. Flores. Aaron Glenn.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn up there. There's numerous, like, owners can get a little wake up. How about the guys in Washington? Cliff Kingsbury's doing a great job. Anthony Lynn's doing their run game as head coaching experience. John Gruden's feeling nicey. Oh!
Starting point is 01:20:04 I mean, there's a lot of guys out there. You haven't seen John Gruden feeling nicey. Oh! There's a lot of guys out there. You haven't seen John Gruden feeling nicey. Oh! He's doing some cool TikTok videos. Oh, yeah. I'd say. Yeah. John Gruden's doing football again.
Starting point is 01:20:18 His Twitter is TikTok everything Gruden loves football. What is it about Gruden loves football? And he does. And he does. And he does. And he will. I don't know if he's sending emails. Go ahead. Here's a fun little John Gruden story. So we do these meetings before the draft every year
Starting point is 01:20:33 and this had to be, well, it was a year he was doing the draft. So they go around the room and they say, all right, let's go through the room here and talk about what everybody knows. Let's start with Chris Mortensen. What, what do you know? And Mort's like, well, this team is moving up. This team, this team, this team, that.
Starting point is 01:20:49 All right, Schefter, what do you know? I say it. They go, all right, John, what do you know? He goes, I got a phone, too, you know. And he starts rattling off information. He's an insider. You know, just the way he says everything, it's just, it's entertaining. Gruden, everything. You can listen to that guy all day. These TikTok videos, very low-lit, you know just the way he says everything it's just it's entertaining gruden everything yeah
Starting point is 01:21:05 these that guy all day these tiktok videos very low lit not great yep quality not high i don't know who's editing it maybe him on his face maybe him and it is just 108 on the paint just like chef d every time we appreciate the hell out of you brother adam schefter yeah i just want to apologize for cutting into uh.J. Watt's airtime here. Like, I know I took up some of his time. So, as the owner of Burnley, I want to make sure that he knows that I apologize and we should get J.J. on here as soon as possible to get his brilliant insights. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Schefter, I don't know what that was. I don't like him. Sounds like someone's scared of J.J. Watt. Yeah, you're trying to keep J.J. Wall. One of your plugs is, how was your relationship with J.J.? You know J.J. Wall? I love J.J. Is that right? Last game, I guess.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Can't wait to know. Why do you say it like that? Yeah, it was an interesting answer. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Sheff. I'm a big J.J. fan. Send him my best. Okay, alright. Thank you, Sheff. Hey, Sheff. One final thing as I take up more time. I would like to let everybody that's watching know that J.J. Watt was supposed to be on, but it's me, bitch.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Sorry. Leader of the insiders. I love Chef D. As Aaron was saying there, dining going to be the— Yeah, as a matter of fact, we saw how that happens. Wow. Legit, he heard it from a source. I can't confirm it, can I?
Starting point is 01:22:29 I just, yeah, Aaron, just confirmed it. Very telling. Yeah, that was awesome. Very telling. He alluded to it. As Aaron was saying, yeah, Donnie's the new guy. I mean, that was awesome to watch. Damn, I missed that.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Yeah, me too. Well, didn't Aaron say, no, I could have misheard it, but I thought he said whether or not this happened with Robert, there was going to be changes on the offense. Yeah, it sounded like he did allude to a couple different things, and Schefter was like, he said not me. I took it as
Starting point is 01:22:56 he's thrown, making sure he publicly puts all his support around Brick, around the new head coach, but also, Schefter took it a different way. No, on the offense, when we talked offense with Hackett, he did. There was a, he did say a couple things that were like, I'm open for whatever. I should have said, what are the options?
Starting point is 01:23:10 I meant to jump in and say, what are the possible options to change? Call Dan O. And that would have been an AJ question here, because you put him on the spot. You have a better relationship. Yeah, should have asked that. Yeah, should have. I mean, way to let journalism down.
Starting point is 01:23:23 But Shefty was like, don't worry about it. I fucking got it. Yeah, he got it he scooped me eight is wow joining us now what's that eight teams he said what for new coaches yeah that's wild yeah one of them already done he said seven more he's never too early for hunting season you know what he said owner calling him he must love that i mean the more we learn about these insiders they are like a uh a conduit of information they gossip too these things like the gossip yeah you know sham's debuts tomorrow here we go good luck in there shams joining us now ladies and gentlemen future first ballot hall of famer whose time was cut off today by adam schefter ladies
Starting point is 01:24:01 and gentlemen jj wantatt. Yay, JJ! Thanks, guys. Glad to be here. We couldn't have done without that last anecdote from Schefter. Glad we got that in. Riveting? No, needed it. Really, really. Glad he bumped me. Glad he bumped me for that.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Do you know Schefter? He said you guys got a great relationship. Schefter's a little part of got a great relationship. Schefter's a little part of the Burnley crew. He's in the Burnley crew. Whoa! I didn't know he's an investor. Schefter owns a soccer team? I did not know that was the case.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Yeah, he's our soccer insider. He gives us absolutely zero information in the soccer world, but anything we need to know in the NFL, we get it. It's great. You got Tyler from Dude Perfect, Adam Sheffer, J.J. Watt. Are you kidding me? Oh my God. Who's next? Yeah, Burnley's about to go north in the
Starting point is 01:24:51 in the rankings. The championship. The list of teams. The table, yeah. The table. You got it. Keep going. You got it. You got it. Well, I can sense it with Sheffer on board now. him and Tyler kind of exchanging ideas. I couldn't even fathom you coming in there saying, look, we need an hour and a half dinner,
Starting point is 01:25:10 meal, five course before each time. That's better than everywhere else, including Tottenham. We're going right to the top. Hey, let's go, Barnley. Bullish. Up the Clarets. Up the Clarets. Up the Clarets.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Up the Clarets. Let's go down to Moore. The Moore. Close to Moore. The... Turf Moore. Turf Moore. There it is. Clifton Moore. Turf Moore. There it is.
Starting point is 01:25:27 We want to go to Turf Moore. Hey, as an owner of a team, have you ever just walked in on a Tuesday and said, hey, head coach, you're fired? So what is your takeaway? Schefter gave us a lot of information there, actually. He said he felt like it was a long time coming, even the fact that it was maybe going to happen at the end of last year, and instead they do it this time after the loss in England where he was the ambassador, yada, yada, yada, yada yada yada how do you feel about those talking i think the english
Starting point is 01:25:48 talking points got out because i've seen that a couple places now uk ambassador the uk ambassadorship has been brought up on a few television casts now and uh so that's very clearly it's very embarrassed to be in england and lose that game apparently yeah um but i mean it's wild it's a it's a wild situation you're sitting there and are you where you want to be, especially with the expectations before the season started? Absolutely not. You bring in Aaron Rodgers and you think that you're going to, I finally
Starting point is 01:26:13 have got my playoff team. I finally got my Super Bowl run. I'm picked in the preseason to be first. And then it doesn't go exactly how you want to go at the beginning of the season. And you feel like it's slipping away and you want to make that change now to try and salvage this season as opposed to waiting to do it later but i mean just defense is second in the nfl in points per and yards per game 255 yards per game they're fourth in sacks they're seventh in points per game like that defense is playing strong yes the
Starting point is 01:26:39 offense is struggling right now they need to put up some more points but i mean if you're just looking at a situation where coach gets fired and I understand over the course of the whole thing but that's a tough tough thing and then a question that I had which obviously you guys just had him on for a while but I'm very curious I saw that Robert wasn't able to talk to the team on his way out or any of that like that's a tough one man like not to be able to especially in this situation at least see some of the guys and like say appreciate it and I know he calls them afterwards but man that's a it's just a tough situation it's business least see some of the guys and, like, say appreciate it. And I know he calls them afterwards. But, man, it's just a tough situation.
Starting point is 01:27:07 It's business. At the end of the day, it's business. And you get to do whatever you want to do when you're the owner. But it's still tough. Yeah, you and Schefter and Tyler from Dude Perfect are certainly doing that with Burnley, making it your own little fun house. But, yeah, Woody Johnson seemingly, okay, seemingly just doing this. Yup.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And then did Schefter also say that he implied that Sala's not his guy I didn't hire you I was in yeah I heard that that was a wild like that was a new development that was pretty crazy yeah right like no no definitely wasn't my guy no yeah I'm the actual owner okay brother made this decision while I was ambassadoring, you're not my guy. So let's figure it out. It's like, that's a whole nother, let alone the New York media market. And now it's like, ownership right upstairs is actually like, this guy, looking down.
Starting point is 01:27:55 How'd you hire this? There was a quick distancing there. That was a quick distancing, like, nah, nah, never was. Never was my guy. Legit, like, a long time coming, and also saying never really his guy. It's like, okay. So Sala had to at least feel a little bit, you know, and then Schefter was
Starting point is 01:28:10 like, you can normally sense how your relationships are going at work or whatever. It's like, I did not know. I didn't know any of that. That really changes the conversation a good bit, I think. And then they put him in. And being fired on a Tuesday as opposed to a Monday is also wild. Well, it was Monday. They're playing Monday night, so football
Starting point is 01:28:26 Monday. Yeah, today was still Aaron Rodgers Tuesday because football. Long flight back. Oh, I got it. I got it. You don't, JJ. No, I don't. I know what you're saying. Yes, because it's Monday night, the whole week shifts so that it was technically Monday. But I'm saying
Starting point is 01:28:41 you come home from the game, you come in the next day, you kind of like peek around the office like am I good? So you go about your day and you're like, alright, I made it through technically Monday. But I'm saying you come home from the game, you come in the next day, you kind of like peek around the office like, am I good? So you go about your day and you're like, all right, I made it through the day. This week is fine. You definitely are not ready for the Tuesday call into the office. That's for sure. Yeah, and just like Aaron said, it sucks. Family gets fired.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Obviously, you have to change cities. It's part of the profession and everything like that. Salah will be back. He's going to coach Colts, I heard. So good luck to your Houston Texans team. Yeah, you guys could use that. It definitely did sound like offensive coordinator change, though. I would say from Aaron's conversation that I agree with Shefty on reading through the lines. That seemed like a pretty clear one.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Okay, so you and Shefty are aligned with Burnley and aligned with the fact that Aaron said there's a new offensive coordinator. Anything else we need to take away from that and Shefty's conversation? No. Nothing? No. Everything else was a waste of time, Shefty. No, it was great.
Starting point is 01:29:38 It was great. I listened to it all, really enjoyed it. All right, let's go. It's great you guys have the quarterback of the team on the day after. I mean, nobody gets that access Good on you Good on program He's been a part of the program Half a decade
Starting point is 01:29:54 Five years now That's a long time 20% of a century You can really start going there Five years We got it What's a thousand? 20% of a thousand You start doing some math. I mean, you can really start going there. Yeah. Yeah, five. You get it. We got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:07 What's 1,000? What's 1,000? There it is, 20% of 1,000. Well, no, it's definitely not that. You know. Definitely not. Math real good. But these last five years have been through, there's been a lot with Aaron, you know, and our show.
Starting point is 01:30:19 A lot. You know, like, we're very thankful we get to talk to him, but obviously when things like this happen, it's like, not exactly, like, pumped to be the one to have the convo because it's like, hey, let's make sure we get all the answers here. You going to ask any tough questions? It's like, I bring up everything. I was trying to figure out the time of the day because today is a work day for them, right?
Starting point is 01:30:40 Tuesday. Come on. Jesus. Golly. I knew it. I said it. As played a lot of football. That's why. Too much.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Too much. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stone Cold said he doesn't. I'll believe in it. Anyways, let's pivot away from the jet situation.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Although it is very all encompassing because it's such a big storyline. Let's go to your brother. Congratulations. TJ. What? Hunter sack club. from the Jets situation, although it is very all-encompassing because it's such a big storyline. Let's go to your brother. Congratulations, TJ Watt, Hunter Sack Club. Yay! Hunter Sack Club. He pulls that off. You welcome him into that group, so you've been waiting a long time. What is it like watching TJ hit these milestones? And, oh, did you
Starting point is 01:31:17 stay up for that one? Did you stay up for that? Yeah, man, it was a late one, man. Late one. Late one. But sadly, that didn't end the way I wanted it to for him, but it was a great football game, obviously right down to the wire there at the end. But for him, 100-sack club, being the second fastest player in NFL history, besides Reggie White, I mean, for us growing up in Wisconsin, Reggie White being our idol, like any time that we're mentioned
Starting point is 01:31:41 in that same category is pretty unbelievable. So unbelievably proud of him. I also know that he's only, I think, 13 and a half away now from passing me. So I'm just going to try and enjoy the bragging rights that I have. No, take a golf cart to the legs. Take a golf cart. You guys know what you're doing. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:32:01 No, I'm joking. We love watching TJ. We love watching him. That would be very rude of him. Yeah. Very rude of him. No, but it's coming sooner than later. I know, I'm joking. Kicking his knees. We love watching TJ. We love watching him. That'd be very rude. Yeah. Very rude. No, but it's coming sooner than later. I can tell you that.
Starting point is 01:32:09 It's coming sooner than later. So I'm just enjoying these last few days I got here. How come he doesn't get holding calls? Nobody does. It's the NFL. They just don't call him. Because they could call him all the time. That's because these offensive linemen are cheating all the time.
Starting point is 01:32:24 That's right. I saw him on New England every damn play. I'll tell you how much. That's because these offensive linemen are cheating all the time. That's right. I call him on New England every damn play. I tell you how much. Oh, do they? Well, I hope they call him this weekend because they got the Texans and Drake May playing against that tough defense. Should be great. Okay, C.J. Stroud.
Starting point is 01:32:35 We had him on yesterday. The guy is like the perfect example of what you want as a starting quarterback. Legitimately. Everything about him. It's bananas. And they're continuing the ball. How do you feel? You got to feel great about that Houston Texans right now. Yeah. Yeah, everything about him. It's bananas, and they're continuing the ball. How do you feel? You've got to feel great about that, Houston Texans, right now.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Yeah, yeah, I feel great. I think the end of the game this past week was wild. Obviously, everybody looks at the Bills' situation and how they managed the end of the game, and it's definitely not ideal. You're certainly not looking at that as a pinnacle of what you're trying to do as a coach. But I do have to say, on the flip side of that, I don't think the Texans handled it that great at the end of the game either.
Starting point is 01:33:08 I think they threw the ball with timeouts left on third down when Kiamie was already in field goal range, knocked themselves out of field goal range and had to punt it. So both of those, at the end of that game, it was a very interesting situation. But, I mean, I'm sure it's been talked about to death, but the Bills situation was truly baffling. Yeah, and Josh misses that throw because he was knocked out on the field. Yeah, yeah, he couldn't see.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Did you see that? Also baffling. Also very, very, very baffling. I don't know how – I legitimately don't know how that works because the – I mean, everybody with eyes. I'm not – you know? In heaven. And we're fans of Josh Allen, which is why I think we're all like,
Starting point is 01:33:43 yup, because we don't need two in a set understand game we don't need that type of thing no matter what you believe in how far the science goes back to back concussions not good that is certainly not good and it's like i think he was clearly out i think everybody kind of clearly thinks he was out then he gets back in there and he plays bad everybody's like josh allen this is josh allen yeah let's move let's get out of here please i'm sick of it yeah in the sun yeah yeah i'm sick of it i want to see that tree more that's a good tree back great but josh allen big tree fall hard he's certainly knocked out and everybody's like well he's playing bad football it's a good defense it's like it is a good defense but also that guy might have he might have no idea what's going on there he was clearly not hope he was okay
Starting point is 01:34:21 hey josh we hope you're okay peace and peace we need you in the league yeah man legit in this what geez whoa you look like bigfoot big blurry phone lake yeah yeah my son's inside sleeping so I was trying to uh come outside to avoid any potential crying in the background when he wakes up or singing he likes to sing and uh nice uh outside but i did not anticipate the sun coming over the roof and now it's catching me hot yeah half like half in half out yeah and i don't know what to do i'm gonna be honest with you i don't know what to do hey that thing's coming up on the east and setting on the west uh every single day about this time kind of over center there so probably should have known it was coming but with that being said sun still got it is it hot too not just bright hot uh no no it's not hot it's uh
Starting point is 01:35:11 58 degrees which is perfect but sun can still get you even when it's cold that's what you got to remember oh yeah you got to remember forget about that especially us fair-skinned folks you know you you do you don't got to worry about getting that cold sunburn out of nowhere. What happened? Oh, yeah, you are the whitest person of all time. That's kind of what my skin tells me there. I think no matter how the sun goes, you look good. So we got the
Starting point is 01:35:35 lake house, okay? Yep. We got the one over there in Arizona. Yeah, Arizona. We got the London penthouse. We got the Texas-Houston thing. This is nothing like your lake house, obviously. Nothing like your lake house. Well, I mean, I'm loving lake life.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I don't blame you, but boy, JJ. You got a boat? I don't know how to do the water stuff. I got a jet ski because it was gifted to me, and I'll go wide open with that. But like the boat, I was going 65-70 on this thing. I'll patrol on the
Starting point is 01:36:08 jet ski just because it's like a motorcycle and I used to ride a motorcycle. I don't know all the shit about the boat. It feels like it's a lot of work. And if it doesn't work, you're stuck. And I don't like swimming in the water. So I haven't gotten into the boating yet aspect of it all. Coach Saban has a connect, I guess,
Starting point is 01:36:23 for a good boat and he said he'll teach me all that stuff. Shout out to Coach Saban. But I feel like my daughter is going to want to be in there, so I'm going to have to learn this shit. I'm going to have to learn it all, I think. I don't want to. Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's not like you also don't have people that can take care of things for you. I mean, you've got a great staff here on the Thunderdome.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Hey, who wants to go take care of the boat? Who wants to go tighten up the paw on the tent? Alright, G Hey, who wants to go take care of the boat? Who wants to go tighten up the pontoon? All right, Gump, here's to paint chips. First mate. Need you to figure out how to keep that boat. Happy birthday, Gump. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Happy birthday, Gump. Thank you, Zito. Appreciate it, brother. Happy birthday. Nothing he wants more than a burly win this weekend. That's right. Yeah, we need it. We need it, too.
Starting point is 01:37:00 International break, so we're off. Fuck! Yeah, we're off. International break? So, United States playing who? I don't know. We got guys playing all over the map. We don't have any guys on the U.S. team right now.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Trying to get Cole Osher to come over. Hold on, you don't have any Americans on Burnley? Who? We have an American with dual citizenship, Luca Cole Osher. He currently plays for the Italy U21s. Great, great player. Unbelievable., he currently plays for the Italy U21s. Great, great player. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:37:29 He's not playing for the States? Why isn't Coliocio playing for the United States of America? Look at Poncho. What is this all about? Poncho is the gaffer now. He's Italian. What do you mean? We need him over here.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Did you hear his name? Yeah, I heard it. Coliocio. Yeah. Mike Grella was also Italy and America play for America, which I appreciate. Coliocio would thrive. I don't know if Grella could have played for Italy. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:37:52 You see that lolly, TSD? Watch Grella's Red Bull highlights. You're going to have to face Grella. You are going to have to see Grella. They won a World Cup win. I don't know if you want Grella's smoke. You're out of pocket right now. He would say the same thing. Soccer out of pocket talk, which I appreciate is what our show is all about.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Well, get an American on that team. Let's start climbing the table. Yeah, working on it. Pochettino's first match in charge this weekend. Why don't you pay for that 14-year-old over there in Philadelphia? Kevin Sullivan. Kevin Simpson. Sullivan?
Starting point is 01:38:23 Yeah. Kevin Sullivan. Why don't you get him on the roster? Man City's got some cash. They've got some cash. Thank you. You don't own Man City. Big Man City fan. Oh, yeah. They're getting sent down, though.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Is that where Erlin? You're a Man City fan, Q? Where did that stem from? Well, see, over COVID, I had no TV to watch, and so I started on all or nothing and just thought Pep Guardiola was absolutely electric. Is he gone now? He's not coaching anymore. Yeah, he's coaching.
Starting point is 01:38:53 He's still there. Last year of his contract. He'll be done at the end coaching England soon. He's coming over to Boston. No, he's coming over to Pittsburgh Riverhounds. No, no, no, no. He's switching to basketball. You guys play the Pittsburgh Riverhounds. Who wins, JJ? Burnley, Pittsburgh Riverhounds. Burn's switching to basketball. You guys play the Pittsburgh Riverhounds. Who wins,
Starting point is 01:39:06 JJ? Burnley, Pittsburgh Riverhounds. Burnley by quite a bit. Are they in the MLS? In Pittsburgh? I don't know if you can play on the road. That's a tough one. You'll work that, JJ. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:20 I don't know if you want to go down to the river off North Shore down there. You's next to the river, north shore down there. You used to have, what was the Halloween thing down there? Bring them over to Turf Boy. Station Scared. There's bodies in that river. You don't want to play soccer against the Riverhounds down Station Scared. Station Scared.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Okay? You don't want that, pal. Burnley would have no idea. Jesus Christ. I couldn't even fathom the amount of, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on? One of those yinzers. Good luck. Yeah. Good luck fathom the amount of, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on? When those yinzers show up. Yeah. Good luck, Burnley. Now you're
Starting point is 01:39:48 0-2. Inter-Miami beats you. Then the Pittsburgh Riverhounds get you down. And then Concava. And Concava, obviously. Concava would get, no. That was me playing soccer representing Burnley. I was not a good
Starting point is 01:40:03 representation of our squad. To be clear, you played a lot. Yeah, you played a lot. Great representation. You played a lot. I was really impressed. Legit, every time you went back out there, I'm like, what is he doing? Why is he still out there? And then you were running and fighting and heading. Almost scored.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Almost scored a goal. I mean, the guy's ball hit the post in the other game. JJ. I had no business being out there. I had no business being out there. the post in the other game. JJ. I had no business being out there. I had no business being out there. Yeah, on the team. I disagree. I had no business being out there either on the team. Look at you. Look at that. Look how big you are. All white. Not a good look
Starting point is 01:40:38 for the big guys. Foul. Obviously. Welcome to JJ's house, bitch. That's mine? No, yeah, foul. That was a good crock. That is a little bit of a crocker from JJ. What, with the left boot? Come here.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Foul. That was a foul, guys. He's flopping on you. This ain't football. Anyways, JJ, we love your soccer stuff, and the Pittsburgh Riverhounds are a tough place to play. Let's get back to American football, shall we? Connor has a question for you.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Yeah, JJ, how do you feel about the performance from a friend of the program who was on the show last week, Kyle Van Noy? It feels like he's having a little bit of a resurgence here at 33, maybe adding a few years on to his career, maybe gets a three-year deal here instead of just being a mercenary for the Ravens?
Starting point is 01:41:27 I think it's awesome. I think seeing a guy like Calvin Noy, who's obviously bounced around a little bit, but just always, every time he plays whatever team it's for, he goes out there, he's got not only technical skill, but he puts in the effort. He's just all over the place making major plays. Six sacks, second in the NFL, 17 pressures leading the Ravens. It seems like, like you said, he always gets these contracts
Starting point is 01:41:50 that are like one or two years or hang around a little bit, but just a consistent, consistent player and love giving some pass rushers some love, especially guys that are doing it for a very long time. So Kyle Van Nooyen, shout out to you, man. Atta baby, KVN. Hell yeah, Kyle. Kyle Van Nooyen, shout out to you, man. Atta baby, KVN! Hell yeah, Kyle. Kyle Van Nooyen.
Starting point is 01:42:07 We appreciate it every time he comes on. He's electrifying. And him playing at this, you know, level, at this age, obviously great. But whenever he was
Starting point is 01:42:15 with the Chargers, he turned it on there for a bit. Absolutely. Then he goes to the Ravens middle of the season after taking on Connor last year,
Starting point is 01:42:21 starts making some plays. I think he feels very comfortable. He loves the culture over there. I think he loves playing for that team. Good for them. They seemingly got it this year, the Ravens. Yeah, look out. This could be the year.
Starting point is 01:42:30 They legitimately could. They seem to have figured it out. A lot of teams that haven't figured it out. Massive matchup this week. It's going to be a blast, dude. Ravens, Commanders, Jaden, Lamar. Like, this is going to be awesome. I can't wait to watch this game.
Starting point is 01:42:40 I mean, this is future of NFL happening in real time. And then there's a style, you know, that Baltimore has. And then you think of the commanders on offense, you think like, okay, we got razzle-dazzle. But I think there's a chance, I think there's a chance one of these teams is making its first appearance on the top offensive line performance of the week. Shut out of town.
Starting point is 01:43:04 And the other one has been on before. So I think what AQ's saying is you think Commanders Raven's not similar. Pretty similar. They got good fighting styles. It's going to be a great game. Now, let's move forward. They do already. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:43:17 They tried to. They tried to. I believe NBC wanted it, and CBS said, no, no, no, no. Let's move it to Tuesday then. You know, CBS, JJ, why don't you make the sweep back and take it. Holy shit. I'm fighting his son, man. I'm fighting his son. I'm trying to help.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Yeah, but you're winning. You're winning the fight. Don't stuff me in a locker, please. Yeah, you do look like you're straight out of a movie right now. D-Bud has a question for you. Speaking of the Commanders, we're heading to week six right now. I think their head coach is definitely a candidate, but who do you have at the top of your coach of the Commanders, we're heading to week six right now. I think their head coach is definitely a candidate. But who do you have at the top of your coach of the year,
Starting point is 01:43:50 I guess, rankings right now going forward? I would put Dan Quinn up there, certainly. I would put Kevin O'Connell up there as well. I think those guys have done an unbelievable job. I think what Dan Quinn has done there, it's so great proving what you can do very quickly in this league. Often we talk about rebuilds and things like that, but what you can do very quickly in this league you know often we talk about rebuilds and things like that but what you're watching the commanders do right now not only with dan quinn but also cliff kingsbury offensive coordinator just putting up points
Starting point is 01:44:13 and then jayden i mean right now if you had to vote today i don't know how anybody votes for someone other than jayden daniels for mvp i mean what he's doing is unheard of it's literally the first quarterback ever since 1970 with 75-plus completion percentage, 1,000 passing yards, 300 rushing yards in any five-game span. Like, he's doing things that we literally haven't seen. So it's unbelievable, and he hands down my MVP at this moment of the year, and I think you go either Dan Quinn or Kevin O'Connell as coach of the year. And also, major shout out
Starting point is 01:44:46 to my guy Cliff Kingsbury for what he's doing with that offense. Hell yeah, Cliff Kingsbury rallying the boys. Dan Quinn, he's going backwards hat over there. He found that in Dallas. He became a Florida man in Texas. Backwards hat carries over to Washington and the Commanders. They're all jade out on the sideline, both of them. All have jades
Starting point is 01:45:02 on, fresh. Cliff Kingsbury's doing his thing. Dan Quinn's doing his thing. Why not the Commanders? New ownership, fresh start. They're going to need to get a stadium at some point, but good for them. Good for everybody that has been Washington football team fans and then the people that have been Washington team in the past. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Team in the past. Yeah, they found their name. They can't change their name from the Commanders now. They have to stick with the Commanders forever because of how good they are. Yeah, because if you win, you have to – can't leave. It's like the Utah Hockey Club. Bingham. Utah Hockey Club currently completely undefeated after last night's debut.
Starting point is 01:45:36 It's like, all right, you're the UHC now forever. Congratulations. They sold out the barn, and then outside they had a watch party that would have been enough for the arena to fill up again. It's crazy. Utah taking in that Phoenix team, and then them having their debut last night and hosting the ESPN NHL show with Levy and Messier. Moose was out there, and PK was out there, the whole crew.
Starting point is 01:45:56 It's like it was big. It felt big, and they won. And I think these Utah folks are like, hell yeah, we like competition. Hell yeah, we like events. But I think they're going to fall in love with the sport of hockey too. And last night is a great way for that to happen. And good for everybody out there. Good for everybody out there.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Those Utah folks, they'll support their team now. They will show up to fill a stadium. They've done a good job up there. What was the – the Jazz had like a 10-year run of sold out or something. And they haven't been like great. They had a few good job up there. The Jazz had like a 10-year run of sold out or something. And they haven't been great. They had a few good years with Jonathan Mitchell, but it's not like they've been unbelievable where they should be selling out. And Ryan Smith, backwards hat guy as well,
Starting point is 01:46:33 owner of Jazz and of Utah Hockey Club. He founded Qualtrics back in the early 2000s. He's only 40-something years old, self-made billionaire, owns two teams. Now he's sitting next to Gary Bettman, who I believe had a nice beer last night as well watching. The NHL's doing it, man. And Ryan Smith, congratulations, brother.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Friend of the program. Very, very happy for him. AP Tone has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, Jage, I do have a question for you. It's a trivia question, actually. Do you know where TJ watt, Andrew van Ginkle, Nick Herbig, TJ Edwards, who else? Jack Sandberg, Leo Chanel. Do you know where all those guys went to college and what position they play
Starting point is 01:47:20 Speaker 3, linebacker, you, Wisconsin. I mean mean just pumping out linebackers who are making big plays obviously yeah you got van gink out there pick sixes two pick sixes you got tj edwards in the center you got zach bond i mean it truly is uh we were talking about me and my buddies and you started listening we were like hang on a second is there a group that's got a better, at this current moment, linebacker crew in the NFL making play after play after play? I mean, pretty impressive crew. Any disagreements? Can you think of any others at the top of your head?
Starting point is 01:47:52 Penn State used to be linebacker U, right? Wasn't that what Penn State was called? Yeah. We have – Yeah, they got Micah. They got the – Chop. Dwell.
Starting point is 01:48:00 He's more of an A. They had, obviously, LeVar Arrington. I mean, dominant. JJ, seems like you're talking shit right now. Paul. He's more of an A. They had, obviously, LeVar Arrington. I mean, dominant. JJ, it seems like you're talking shit right now. Paul. He said current. I'm not talking to anybody. I'm talking right now.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Today. Hey. Van Kinkle's got two picks. TJ just had his 101st sack in the NFL. Herbig has like three sacks, four sacks this year. TJ Edwards is in the dead center of that defense, making plays left and right. Zach Vaughn, I believe, has multiple sacks this year.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Like, it's a true – Leo Chanel for the Chiefs, like, Super Bowl champion. It's a very impressive group. Okay, Wisconsin. That's awesome. Hey, let's pay a little bit more respect to Wisconsin, I think, is what Wisconsin J.J. Watt is saying here. I think that is rightfully earned right there. I did not know all that.
Starting point is 01:48:41 As his names were rattling off, I'm like, damn, damn, damn, damn, damn. I didn't know that. Good for Wisconsin. They could be back. Yeah. A lot of offensive linemen. A lot of linebackers. Great.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Very proud. Should be proud. A lot of quarterbacks. A lot of quarterbacks. Running backs. Russ Wilson. Running backs. Tons of running backs, obviously.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Wide receivers. That's a question. Russ Wilson, yeah. A lot of wide receivers. Not a lot of wide receivers. Not a lot of wide receivers? Not a lot of wide receivers. Not a lot of wide receivers. Not a lot of quarterbacks. How about corners?
Starting point is 01:49:10 How about corners? We stopped the run. Riley Moss from there? Nah. Nah, he's from Iowa. Go Hawks. I thought you guys had a chance here. All right, we'll be back tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Week five of the NFL season kicks off tomorrow night. It's a good one. We'll talk about it. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. Backward hats rule. That was a good sign-off. Maybe the best one. Jage, did you see we all put on our backwards hats?
Starting point is 01:49:35 I did. I saw that. I appreciate it. I also caught two Jages on this show. That is generally kept for... Not many people even know that one outside of the family or tight, tight friends. I appreciate it. I feel like we're closer.
Starting point is 01:49:48 To be clear, we didn't know about it either until a text from a Yinzer who is a massive TJ fan. His name is Billy Bones. He sent us a text. He goes, why don't you tell Jage in the J-A-J-E in the text that he sent. First time we saw it, all laughed. Loved it. Obviously, we all laughed. So that was, I believe, a tribute to Bones there in the group text.
Starting point is 01:50:10 I didn't know that was – okay, so Billy Bones knew, obviously. Who he has met. You have met Bones. Remember, he shook your hand. He's a little guy. He came up to you and he said, I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, I love your brother so much more than you.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Yeah. No, he's in a special group because J-Age is reserved. I mean, that's a Derek, TJ, Evan, Joe, Taylor. That's about it. Bones. Not many people. Anyone with a J. Not even Cushing?
Starting point is 01:50:35 Wow. How would you spell it? J-A-J-E is how he's spelled. See, it's J-A-G-E. That's the spelling, apparently. He might have spelled it J. That's what the boys all go with. I thought it was just J-J. I feel like there should be a-O-S-T-R-O-F-E-D.
Starting point is 01:50:46 It works with anything. People call me Age. Like, my family calls me Age. Teage. How do they spell it in text? Do they ever? Weird. They never text it.
Starting point is 01:50:54 I've never seen it in text. A-G-E. What if you voiced the text Age? L-A-G-E. Yeah, there it is. I was in there. I was in there. Let the algorithm figure it out. Let the algorithm figure it out.
Starting point is 01:51:06 Let the AI figure it out. They would, by the way. Jage. What? What's your problem, dude? This cracks me up. I look like an idiot right now. I literally look like Zach Morris or some stupid.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Whoa. Zach Morris is an idiot right now. I literally look like Zack Morris or some stupid... Whoa! Zack Morris is an idiot. Zack's a legend. Yeah, 1990. I look like a great 1990s character right now. Yeah, you're out of the movie. It's pretty sweet. That's what we were referencing earlier.
Starting point is 01:51:37 And with that tree behind you. I'm going to flip my chair around. Travis Kelsey looks like Jonathan Taylor Thomas in Home Improvement this weekend with his outfit. I did see the hair, though. The hair was flowing, and he did have the shirt and shorts combo there. Hey, no one out pizzas the Hut, brother. There's no throwback.
Starting point is 01:51:54 I mean, I'm in the middle of it right now. Did you see Berkeley this weekend? Did you see that crowd? Used to deliver for them. Nobody out pizzas the Hut. Used to deliver for Pizza Hut? Oh, yeah. So they make NFL superstar Hall of Famers as well?
Starting point is 01:52:07 Had no idea. Holy fuck. Jage learned his work ethic from delivering pies for the greatest pie shop in town, Pizza Hut. No one out pizzas the Hut? No one out works here. I think Montana did the same. Holy shit. What was your order?
Starting point is 01:52:21 I left Central Michigan. Wow. I had a six-month break where I was going to a local community college, worked at Pete's Hut delivering pies, and then I walked down to Wisconsin. Massive piece of the story. Holy shit. And that's why, ladies and gentlemen, no one, and we mean no one, out pizzas the Hut. I love that.
Starting point is 01:52:40 AQ Shipley has a question for you, Jage. Yeah, J.J., let's talk a little bit about. Jage! You live in his neighborhood. J a question for you, Jage. Yeah, J.J., let's talk a little bit about it. Jage! You live in his neighborhood. Jage, Jage, Jage. Talk a little bit about the Cardinals. Big win over the San Francisco 49ers. Defense was not Swiss cheese.
Starting point is 01:52:53 Made a big play at the end. What did you see that Gannon brought on that second play of the last drive that made that play and Jalen Thompson get home? I mean, you're asking me about a very specific play in the game that I was... Figure it out, James! What a...
Starting point is 01:53:12 You're not playing the game! You want to protect or not? James is playing the game! You act like I got the plays pulled up from the game. The second player, the third driver, the fourth player. No, the fourth player. No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:53:27 I don't have that moment. That's unbelievable. I mean, it only ended the game. This guy isn't prepared. This guy is not prepared. And you're fucking coming with the high-level analysis. He's pissed because I forgot to call him back. He called me. I was on an interview, and I said, I'll call you back. And I didn't call him back. And then it was too long for forgot to call him back. He called me, and I was on an interview, and I said, I'll call you back, and I didn't call him back.
Starting point is 01:53:46 And then it was too long for me to call him back. I think he was trying to get me. I was watching film when I called you. That exact moment. You would have seen that play from his iPad via FaceTime. But you had to do an interview. Jeez Louise. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Jade, call the guy back. Well, they sent a linebacker and Jalen Thompson both through the B gap. Backs guy. One comes free. Hits Purdy. Jades, you knew the answer. I wanted to see what you saw from a defensive perspective. Jades, you should have heard the shit he led us to earlier with Aaron.
Starting point is 01:54:18 He led to a 235, 2-I, fucking three out. Five on five. That was good. Yeah, it was great. I mean, like 50 people. It was good for a very small portion of the society. I actually enjoyed that conversation, but I think there were a lot of people
Starting point is 01:54:33 that might take a short nap during that moment. Good news. Tone Diggs just relayed the message that we have pulled that from the... I don't have it. We do not have it. Son of a bitch. Okay, we do not have it. We of a bitch. We do not have it.
Starting point is 01:54:46 We'll get to that next week. Gotta do it again, Cardinals. Gotta do it again. Oh, he's about to throw it up on his phone. Let's not zoom in on it. Zero points in the second half, man. 13-point deficit, zero points in the second half. Three takeaways. I mean, James Connors 77 yards rushing in the second half
Starting point is 01:55:02 after only nine in the first half. That's what it was. They played very good defense defense and they ran the ball and they just took it away but with you, last week you called them Swiss cheese, not me, I didn't call them that but it's just kind of bouncing up and down right now with those performances can they do it back to back? Also on the flip side
Starting point is 01:55:18 49ers have to be considered possibly the biggest disappointment of the season so far compared to what people expect them to be. Jeez, I agree. I'm bummed out. Compared to what? I'm bummed out about it.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Bengals too. I mean, they put on a hell of a performance against the Patriots. You've got to think about that. And the Jets, obviously. But, like, I am bummed out about what is happening with the Niners, personally, as a massive fan of it, especially with all the distractions that led into the season and how it's going.
Starting point is 01:55:44 I assume they'll get it right, though. That's what I assume with the Niners. The Beng as a massive fan of it, especially with all the distractions that led into the season and how it's going. I assume they'll get it right though. That's what I assume with the Niners. The Bengals, though. One and four. I expected a lot from them as well because wide receiver, we assume with Jamar Chase, everything that happened during the preseason, plug and play, they know each other inside out. He has two touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:56:00 He goes bananas this weekend. T. Higgins scores a touchdown. They can't stop anybody on the defensive side of the ball. I think we're all very surprised and disappointed with the Bengals as well, right? I mean, that would certainly be up there because I had high hopes for Cincinnati. And Burrow had his whole program. I mean, we all had the AFC North, obviously, as always one of the top, if not the top division in football.
Starting point is 01:56:19 And I think the Bengals and the Browns were both figuring to play heavily into that equation. They haven't so far. I would say that right now the NFC North is probably taking over the top division in football at the moment. Any disagreements there? No. Good football.
Starting point is 01:56:33 All winning records. No disagreement. All right. Good talk. Good talk. Well, we thought you were going to continue to go. All in favor? All opposed?
Starting point is 01:56:43 No. Yeah, everybody said, yeah, you're right. And then you said, get a shot of me right here. Just like I fucking said. I was right. Right, you are brilliant. You look awesome. Look at you on the big board here.
Starting point is 01:57:00 You can't. Gotta have good periphery. Look how sweet you look. Not yet. Look how sweet you look. Oh, my God. he's in a movie. Guy's in a movie. New Superman.
Starting point is 01:57:10 All right, J.H., hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Have an incredible week. Are you on TV this weekend or no? I am. I will be on CBS this Sunday. You guys got any questions you want? We do a little segment where we toss out a question from the fans. You guys got a question you want answered?
Starting point is 01:57:25 Anybody got any burning topics on the National Football League? God, H. Jage, can you tell us who you're voting for and why? Okay. That's not a question. All right, Jage. We appreciate it. We will.
Starting point is 01:57:38 How's it going, guys? The connection's getting crazy out here. How about this? I can't hear you. What? No, yeah, you can hear us. You're coming through perfectly clear. Crystal.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Crystal. Yeah, we can actually see you better now than we have for the last 10 minutes. Everything, this service is perfect, I think. You can hear us? I can hear you. Yeah, we're stuck. I didn't hear AJ, but I heard everything else. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:57:56 We should do the, we should do a hashtag, ask JJ. I got a good one, too. We'll do that. We'll do that. We'll do a hashtag, ask JJ, starting next week. And then we'll do that we'll do hashtag ask JJ starting next week and then we'll do crowd supplied questions great love it
Starting point is 01:58:11 I can't wait to hand pick that one because it's probably going to sound a lot like what AJ's question was and it will be randomly selected obviously but we'll try our best JJ the man have a great weekend we'll watch you on CBS thanks guys have a good one. Hashtag AskJJ. You want to get
Starting point is 01:58:27 a good question in early. Hashtag AskJJ. It should be great. Look at this man. The letter's J.J.? No, AskJJ. A-S-K J-A-G-E. AskJJ. And your question could be asked to that
Starting point is 01:58:43 superhero, that superhero, that icon, that nature man. J.J. Watt. All right, you're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt. See that sky? See that tree? The lake? Good lake.
Starting point is 01:58:57 You got to go down a bit to get to that lake. It's a massive hill. Yeah, I think he's got good view of that lake. He's got probably up on top of a cliff. He probably has one of those fucking lookout towers on the top of his house, too. Yeah, bingo, he just runs down from there, and then he actually repels down the cliff. Yeah. Night, night, night, night, night, night, night, night.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Then he fucking out, doesn't he? Yeah. AQ might be doing the same thing. I feel like AQ definitely has all that. He has had a Navy SEAL shirt on every time he has arrived at the Thunderdome this year, so we assume he can tie knots, rappel, do all those things. Not 100% sure he went through BUDS, but he does have the merch
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Starting point is 02:00:40 But it is a great day to be talking about sports. That's A.J. Hawk. The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Corner and Darius J sports. That's A.J. Hawk. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner. And Darius J. Butler. Hell yeah. Whoa. Okay. Dee Botch, good to see you at the Toxic Table.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Cool over here. You feel cooler over there? I feel cooler over here. Yeah. Congrats. Yeah, we're pretty cool over here. Oh, we're pretty chipper for 0-1. Are you talking about the Boston Bruins?
Starting point is 02:01:02 Yeah, bro. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. It's like we finished off. Who beat the Boston Bruins? Yeah, the Boston Bruins. It's like we finished off. Who beat the Boston Bruins? The Florida Panthers. Defended champs on banner night. No big deal. Wow. So what happened to, I heard, Packed Barn? Was it close? It looked a little closer than it actually was.
Starting point is 02:01:16 What is it? 6-4? 6 goals? Yeah. Jumped out 4-1 first period. Yeah. Absolute shellacking on the ice. Enjoy it. Enjoy it because when Swayman comes back, we score four goals. We're winning every single fucking game. So that's all I saw. Yeah, Swayman got paid, but he didn't have any preseason, so they
Starting point is 02:01:31 did not have him starting a net in Banner Night 4. The Florida Panthers, Boston Bruins, puck drop on the season. And shout out to Sunrise Florida. You know, they're calling it Hockey Town, obviously. They're calling it a Hockey Town, okay? They're calling it a Hockey Town. Because of them
Starting point is 02:01:46 winning last year. I will say, during the playoff run, they were an awesome barn to watch. Last night, sold out. And first time
Starting point is 02:01:53 full sellout, right, all season? Yep, full sellout on the season tickets for the first time. This is obviously our 31st year in existence. So, back-to-back
Starting point is 02:02:01 finals appearances, hopefully we'll make it three and back-to-back championships down there in Sunrise. What's the bar? The Elbow Room? Oh, yeah. Is the Elbow Room So, you know, back-to-back finals appearances, hopefully we'll make it three, and back-to-back championships down there in St. Ross. What's the bar, the Elbow Room? Oh, yeah. Is the Elbow Room packed out every single night?
Starting point is 02:02:10 Got a lot of pub. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you much about the Elbow Room. Really? You've never been to the Elbow Room? I couldn't tell you much about the place. But good spot. What's that?
Starting point is 02:02:17 It's a good spot. I've heard. It's a good spot. Great spot. It is a – But a tease and tease for everybody down there in Florida right now. You know, it's supposed to hit today and tomorrow. Not necessarily where, you know, southeast Florida where sunrise is,
Starting point is 02:02:31 but the west side. It should be pretty scary. So hopefully, you know, everyone's safe and evacuate if you're in the evacuation zone. Obviously, you're a South Florida native and resident. Florida and hurricanes are just like a part. I mean, Miami hurricanes. It's part of it. This one, though, if the things I'm seeing on the internet are factual,
Starting point is 02:02:48 which are seemingly coming from meteorologists and weather people and storm chasers, they're saying this one's... They just put a blob of purple on the screen, and we're like, this is the most powerful thing ever, and it's coming right towards Tampa Bay. Once you start seeing Category 4s,
Starting point is 02:03:04 Category 5s, those are the. Yeah, once you start seeing Category 4s, Category 5s, you know, those are the scariest ones. And you start to see, like, you know, meteorologists who have been on TV for long, long times, you know, we've seen people be emotional, crying, you know, pleading with people to leave. Because if you're a Floridian, you've been down in there for 10, 15, 20 years, you've seen some bad ones.
Starting point is 02:03:20 So a lot of our parents or, like, grandparents are like, I'm not leaving. I'll be all right. Oh, it's like a part of the... Yeah, so it's kind of tough to get you know especially older people out of because it's tough to get people out of their homes but um i think it's the safest and smartest decision but if you do stay you know hunker down and um you know like once again thoughts and prayers definitely with everyone down there they i saw the traffic going out of a bridge out of tampa yeah out of tampa it was like one bridge in one bridge out it looked like independence day that's yeah that it's crazy how quick shit can kind of turn to like almost like a third world country because everybody's gassing up you're not only gassing up
Starting point is 02:03:53 your vehicles you got 10 cans of uh you know gas tanks of power generators and other things so you know on every corner gas station out of gas so now imagine you got to evacuate you got a quarter tank of gas and you got to sit on the highway for an hour two hours you can run out of gas. Now imagine you got to evacuate. You got a quarter tank of gas. You got to sit on the highway for an hour, two hours. You can run out of gas on the highway. It's definitely a situation down there. That traffic looked like four, five, six, seven hours.
Starting point is 02:04:15 It was... They had a helicopter, which I've been seeing helicopters on videos in North Carolina. I don't know what's going on with that whole thing. There's a lot of shit I'm seeing. I don't understand completely. And I saw, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 02:04:31 But this stuff looks very scary. This is obviously one of the highways on the way out of there of Tampa. There's some bridged areas of Tampa, obviously, to get out. I mean, it's a positive vibe for everybody down there. But I don't know anything about storms or the storm, but everything I've read and heard is this is a big one. Fourth biggest ever. Ever. That's what I saw.
Starting point is 02:04:52 And it followed up. If it's as big as they think, right? Hopefully it doesn't get there, right? Sometimes they get taken away out to sea and stuff. Yeah, sometimes they slow down, I think. The reason why the one that ended up hitting Nashville and Georgia and was so devastating there is because it remember uh it hit it met a another storm and they kind of combined perfect storm situation thrown towards atlanta allegedly
Starting point is 02:05:15 off the shore so i guess with the way this one is cooking with the the winds and what is potentially going to happen with jet streams and i guess they're saying this one is going to go where it's coming from it's like you know when the waters are like super warm that's when it gets more and more powerful and obviously it once it hits land that's when it starts to lose the power but the storm surges on that west coast i think they're saying like up to 15 feet crazy like tampa like you know pensacola area so obviously that's very very very scary did you see that uh it hit the group text that guy was in a green screen room yeah yeah yeah exactly the man cgi first of all technology phenomenal i don't know how they're but to like get a a grasp of what's about to happen this video who was this can we give credit to the
Starting point is 02:05:59 weather channel look at this sort of green screen i'd assume is where this guy's standing but the way they're able to get like 3D depth on top of this, too. He goes from three feet, and then I think he goes to six feet, then he goes to nine feet. And it kind of like engulfs everything and talks about what life is like with the storm surge, which is just the ocean showing up, right? Yeah. It's just the ocean showing up on land. Yep.
Starting point is 02:06:18 And allegedly, everything south of where this one's going to go is potentially going to get hit with storm surge. But they're saying 15 feet potential storm surge. That's six feet there, obviously. I think he's lying about how tall he is. That's probably about five. No, I'm not. There's no reason for me to do that. No reason for me to do that at this time right here.
Starting point is 02:06:33 But nonetheless, that thing gets up there all the way to nine feet, ten feet. It's like, I mean, that's what it becomes. House is getting taken into the ocean then. I mean, there's whole buildings and houses going. Yeah, not like just, you know, sitting still water. Like, it's going. Obviously, you got hurricane wind. Look at that wind.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Yeah, and then look at the angle. It gets up on top of this. This is why I think this is so impressive. I don't know if it's just a green screen because then you have the depth of this all the way down there. But it's like you can see how, with this devastation, what ends up happening. Like, the other side, there those North Carolina things we're seeing, roads gone, like buildings wiped out. It's like this is scary shit.
Starting point is 02:07:10 Mother Nature. And, hey, we're pulling for all you down there. Stay safe. And if we can be the doofuses on a screen that can make you be distracted a little bit from it all because it's not just when it happens, obviously. Then it's the months and years afterwards. That's the worst part. Imagine having no power trying to rebuild like everything's gone soaked like yeah d-butt have you ever had to
Starting point is 02:07:29 evacuate down there uh no we've never evacuated um yeah i can't think of any and i've been since 18 i've been pretty much gone for a lot of them because it's football season you know hurricane season football season so went off to college to connect. So, you know, it's a shitty situation. You can't be home sometimes. But I haven't – Irene was bad. Hurricane Andrew was really, really bad. I remember being that when we were young. And when you're a kid, it's kind of like almost – it sounds crazy,
Starting point is 02:07:54 but it's almost like fun. It's like we're in a house. You see the crazy winds, the lightning. No school. You get in the eye of the storm, and it's literally just quiet, just calm, cool, nothing going on. Then 30, 45, an hour later, here's the other side coming through. So it's literally just quiet just calm cool nothing going on in 30 45 hour later here's the other side coming through so it's scary man uh i think 2000 if your house was built after like
Starting point is 02:08:12 2004 there were different you know different regulations you had to pass you got to impact windows on most homes you put shutters up you know to kind of protect your homes you lose the power is always a thing especially if you you know have medicine that you have in the refrigerator and older people have to have things plugged up. So getting a generator is important. They aren't easy. Obviously, they aren't cheap. Definitely important, at least to power certain parts of your home. But, yeah, it's scary, man.
Starting point is 02:08:36 It's intense. Especially if they're talking about like 15 feet of just blood. Yeah, that is bad. Like I said, it was, I want to say a meteorologist, been on TV for like 30 years in Florida, and he was like emotional, like hard to keep it together, saying like. That devastation. And then on the flip side of it, we've seen this before, and then it hits and it's not that bad.
Starting point is 02:08:55 So a lot of people are like, oh, yeah, whatever. You know, I've been here for however long. But I'm personally, you know, you take everyone serious. You don't know. You know, obviously only takes one. I do appreciate the fact, though, that Florida people people that's like a badge of honor almost like i'm florida man i'm leaving yeah florida man florida woman like i'm not i heard about this 30 years ago too the big one was coming we'll see guess what i did i sat right here the whole time what
Starting point is 02:09:18 did ned do smoked a cig sat right there that's legit and it's like no no no this one bigger did you see the blob on the screen? You're like, I bet. Some people are like that. Oh, yeah. I think that's why
Starting point is 02:09:28 all these people get so emotional. For sure. Because they know that their message that they're sending is not going to land with some people.
Starting point is 02:09:35 And they seemingly have a real fear that this one is about to do some real wreck. And following up what just happened, Southeast,
Starting point is 02:09:42 hey, pulling for you. Come on. We donated to hopefully help in recovery, and we will obviously continue to follow every storm that comes through and continue to help. But, man, pulling for you all. One half of the hammer.
Starting point is 02:09:53 Dad. Cowboys AP Tone is here. I saw you put a baseball hat on in the last segment with J.J. Watt. Did you guys see that? I did. It was cool. Backwards. It looked really cool.
Starting point is 02:10:01 It looked sweet. You looked great. You looked fit, too. I didn't like it. You looked good. I didn't like it. It looks sweet. You look great. I didn't like it. You look good. I didn't like it. It didn't feel right. How come?
Starting point is 02:10:08 They got country musicians wearing backwards hats all the time. It's Parker McCollum. Bingo. Yeah, I don't agree with them doing that either. Whoa, Parker. Oh, jeez. What the hell? It's not just Parker.
Starting point is 02:10:17 I mean, if you want to. There's a lot of country guys wearing hats now. Yeah. Like just baseball hats. Yeah, I don't agree with it. I mean. You don't agree with any of them. I mean, if you.
Starting point is 02:10:23 There's like 30 guys that just popped up in the head. I mean, if sure. Just baseball. Yeah, I don't agree with it. You don't agree with any of them. There's like 30 guys that just popped up in my head. I mean, sure, if you want to play a character and put your baseball hat on and act like you're not a country artist, that's fine. Sure. So you're saying these guys deep in the sticks of Mississippi that come out and sing country music. Listen, if it's in our blood, put the hat on.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Okay? With the cowboy hat. Our blood. Bullshit. I'm talking like a true cowboy. How dare these guys play a character. Thank you, AJ. cowboy hat. Our blood. Bullshit. I spoke like a true cowboy. How dare these guys. Thank you, AJ. Jesus Christ. Pittsburgh. Yeah, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 02:10:50 Shaboosie had a hell of a performance last night. He had boots on. He had boots on. He didn't have any hat on. No, he didn't. Had the bottoms. I'll tell you what. I liked that Shaboosie went and performed,
Starting point is 02:11:00 and then he stayed for the whole game and was hanging out with Gary Bettman, I guess. Shaboosie seemingly is the right guy that kind of got famous overnight and had an absolute banger. Does Shabuzy still enjoy singing that song? That one, I don't know. Yeah, funny enough, he's got other really good songs. He's got another banger.
Starting point is 02:11:16 Full album. Yeah, I just don't know if people care. Very good. Yes. And it's like, one comes Two to three To the four And one And four He's gotta be sick of it
Starting point is 02:11:30 Has to be Yeah Not sick of it But he gets He knows Hey this put me on the map But also I appreciate this
Starting point is 02:11:35 How about this other stuff Yeah And he obviously Incredible human Great performance last night But as he was Performing All I can think in my head is
Starting point is 02:11:44 How many times has Shibuzy sang that song in the last three months? 500,000. Legit. Every time. Because I assume at the beginning, they were booking him probably he's probably everywhere. All over. Hey, you're at this festival, you're on
Starting point is 02:12:00 Thursday, early night, late night you're at this particular club or theater you're doing this, you're doing this at this meet and greet, you're going to this radio station to perform, you're at this particular club or theater, you're doing this, you're doing this at this meet and greet, you're going to this radio station to perform, you're doing this. That's the country music world. So the fact that he went out and just did it last night, obviously we're thankful for. But the way he handled the entire – look at Utah, by the way.
Starting point is 02:12:19 Packed out. Packed out for opening night. They're going to be a great home to an NHL team. And then he sticks around, does it all. Shout out to Shabuzy. Shout out to Shabuzy. And shout out to the man joining us now who's about to take us home. Ladies and gentlemen, each week
Starting point is 02:12:32 this year, we've got an opportunity to hear a couple takeaways from a man who's a Super Bowl champion and also learn who he thinks are the top five performing offensive lines. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for AQ Shipley's Talking Points from Week 5 in Top 5 of Lines. Performing offense aligns. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for AQ Shipley's talking points from week five in top five aligns.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Here we go. What are some talking points, AQ? Shout out to week five. The first one, we got Dexter Lawrence. And I said he is dominant. He is dominant. He's off to a historical start of this season. Six sacks and 20 pressures already.
Starting point is 02:13:02 As a nose guard. This is insane to watch. But he has a three-piece against the Seattle Seahawks this past week. Got them hacked? Yeah. That's what they played like, huh? Three and two. I mean, they got worked by Dexter Lawrence.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Let's take a look at these. First one, he just manipulates the center shoulder. Watch this. Get off, forklift, see you later. Sack. That's a nose guard, boys. That is a nose guard. That's 345 pounds right there.
Starting point is 02:13:28 What is a nose guard supposed to do? Not supposed to get sacks. They're supposed to be in. Look, he's in a two-gap stance. He's reading and playing the run right now. That's all he's trying to do. But he swims because Connor Williams jumps him, beats the guard, beats the chip, and gets another sack.
Starting point is 02:13:41 High motor on Sexy Daxie in there. Now we take a look at the third one. The guy he's going against is also a grown man that gets paid in the NFL. Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. Right into him. Third sack of the day. Three-piece for Dexter Lawrence. Incredible.
Starting point is 02:13:55 Six through the first five weeks. Three, obviously, in the last game. And then three spread out through the first four. Historic run for a nose guard. It's insane. I mean, these guys are meant to stop the run. Two-gap. Hold guys. A.J. loves these guys, meant to stop the run, two gap, hold guys.
Starting point is 02:14:05 AJ loves these guys, right? They're the guys that keep the guys off the linebackers. Aaron Donald, D-tackle, not nose tackle. That's correct. He would line up three tech. He changed the game. JJ would go in and three technique, change the game, because now you get quicker, faster on a guard, right?
Starting point is 02:14:18 And so these guys, they're playing over the center. Every once in a while, he'll move out over the guard, but most of his work is done over the center. That'll be Dexter Lawrence. How about the Giants? How about the Giants making an appearance? Sexy Dexy D-Boy. Let's do it.
Starting point is 02:14:31 D-Boy? We got an AP voter right here. Sell him. He's in the run. He's in the run. He gets 20 and a half sacks as a nose guard. He better get it. Oh, yeah. I mean, 20 and a half. That's what he's on pace for. There's a guy getting an interception every game, yeah. I mean, 20. I mean, that's what he's on pace for. We're a long way. I mean, that's what he's on pace for.
Starting point is 02:14:45 There's a guy getting an interception every game, too. If he gets 20 interceptions a game, Fran's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. You probably hate those guys, don't you? I do. They don't play in the trenches. Yeah, sexy Dexys doing it. They just get you the ball back.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Yeah, you're right. You're right. Pass their turn. D-Butt doesn't like to disrespect the cornerbacks there on the defensive side of the ball. Dexter Lawrence, dominant, is one talking point. What's the next talking point coming out of week five? C.J. Stroud, some of these throws. Now, listen, we saw the one where he throws it deep for 65 and a tutty
Starting point is 02:15:12 and does this whole thing. Regular. Yeah, that's regular. That's what he does. Let's take a look at some of these throws. They're ridiculous. The view of this is insane. If we can pause this.
Starting point is 02:15:21 Keep going. Pause it right there. I mean, he put that just out in front of the DB. Perfect pass slide. From the other angle, it looks like he goes through the DB. We don't have the other angle, but it looks like he literally goes through that DB, and he makes that catch.
Starting point is 02:15:35 First play that he has. Second play, the protection here. This is third and 10, a minute and 50 left. If we can go back to the beginning here real quick, I'll talk through this real quick. See 43 over the center? He's trying to engage that center to keep him from sliding. Two steps. Keeps him from sliding. Now the center. Push on 57. Push the left guard out. CJ trusts the whole thing. Gets the ball out third and 10, minute 50 left. Big time play and they get down. Obviously
Starting point is 02:16:02 end up going on to win this game. This play is ridiculous. We get play action. We got the tight end right here on the defensive end. Gets beat a little bit. CJ steps up. D-tackle in his face. Gets hit between four people. This dude's a real deal. A real deal. He can't even finish his arm motion
Starting point is 02:16:19 because D-tackle looping right in his face between four. Perfect pass. Jeez. Everybody's talking about the Buffalo Bills and their demise. Maybe they just ran into C.J. Stroud. Maybe they ran into C.J. Stroud down there. He's phenomenal at the ball. Oh, he's so good.
Starting point is 02:16:34 Has been since he got there. Unbelievable. Some of these plays, too, you talk about the trust of the offensive line and then getting into the – putting his face in a fan and having his arm potentially be broke. The precision he has with everything is stupid. You can't teach that. You can't coach that. His leadership, his maturity. When he comes on this show,
Starting point is 02:16:49 everything he says is perfect. That's why they need to get his ass out of here. They need to train him out of the AFC South AQ. He might be the one, huh? He's pretty good. These other guys are pretty good we're about to talk about as well. Who's that? We've got Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, and Kyler Murray. They are extending plays and making plays as we will see here Jackson, Jaden Daniels, and Kyler Murray. They are extending plays and making
Starting point is 02:17:06 plays as we will see here. The first play, we got Kyler Murray. Now, first of all, your tackles hate the fact that he drifts back to 15 yards because you have no idea. Parrish Johnson keeps setting back. Can't even get to the defensive end, but fadeaway throw up. Fourth down, complete to Marvin Harrison Jr. Ridiculous play, just extending enough
Starting point is 02:17:22 and getting the ball out. You live in Arizona. You cover them very closely. You could call out one specific play to Jage, and Jage didn't know what it was. Kyler playing good ball right now. That's a big-time win, obviously, for them. Are they going to continue to do that? He's playing very good. Exactly what J.J. said. They have to be more consistent on defense because they're continuously
Starting point is 02:17:37 scoring on offense. They just have to get the defense aside playing with them. That a baby, Kyler! Oh, yeah. That's right. We got Lamar Jackson on the next play. This play is unbelievable. He fumbles the snap, which he did twice in this game, just taking his eyes off it. Gets it. Stiff arm. Get off me. Nope. Get off me. Nope.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Get off me. Fall away. Out of bounds. Back across to likely for the touchdown. These plays don't happen. These are anomalies, and we're just seeing three of them in a week that you just don't see. You just do not see. This one's even more ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:18:10 You got a pressure coming off his right side. Boom, boom, boom. Three guys. That's a sack. 80%, 90% of the quarterbacks. Then we just throw it perfect 90 yards downfield. This is ridiculous. Jaden Daniels is a guy. It's ridiculous. Jaden Daniels is a guy. Obviously, Scary Terry
Starting point is 02:18:26 is a massive asset, but they and what they're doing offensively have to feel so good about having the number two overall pick. That's right. Now, obviously, Caleb's playing good ball, and he's back to winning. Congrats to the Bears. Look like they have it figured out. But Jaden with Cliff Kingsbury, seemingly
Starting point is 02:18:42 a perfect fit. Dan Quinn obviously has a head coach, great culture. They've been able to do something that only the Houston Texans were able to do last year so quickly in turning a building around. Jaden's a guy. He's a guy. I mean, even that play right there, like those are two go routes on the opposite side of the field.
Starting point is 02:18:58 And whenever your receivers see that, it starts to extend. And now you cut towards them. Scramble drill. Scramble drill. You just try and find a way to get open. This was unbelievable. I mean, right in stride. The ball. That throw was crazy. Ridiculous. He's good at the football.
Starting point is 02:19:15 Cliff Kingsbury back in his bag. I appreciate the hell out of that. Those were the three talking points. Backyard football, we got sexy Dexy, and we got being a guy against everybody and needing to get traded out of the AFC South. Let's go to the top five performing offensive lines.
Starting point is 02:19:33 Ladies and gentlemen, let's go in the trenches with AQ Shipley. Number five. Number five, the Houston Texans. I want to give these guys a little bit of love because, listen, it's not all about running the football as an offensive line. They've been without Mixon. They've been without Pierce. They've had guys.
Starting point is 02:19:47 This run play is awesome that I'm going to show, but the fact that they're able to protect the way they have, as we just saw on the talking point, and do what they've been able to do to allow CJ to get the ball down the field is a big reason why they're number five this week. But let's take a look at this. We get a little wind back counter draw action, and they also catch the Buffalo Bills as they're
Starting point is 02:20:05 trying to rock and roll the safeties, which also helps. But this play design is awesome. We start everything to the right. You see the fullback, the tailback, everybody going right. Let's watch the center pancake the shit out of number 90. Put him on the ground. Tunsell comes down, big Tunsell. Puts everybody, walls it off. Fullback cuts behind it all. Boom.
Starting point is 02:20:21 As we go to the end zone. Sick play. Really sick play. Great execution. Great design. That's exactly right. Slowick, he's going to be head coach. Great timing for that. You see DeMar come down in the box to the left here. They wind it back away from him. They also fire
Starting point is 02:20:37 39 and Shaq Mason, right guard, being a veteran, he just kind of invites him in the B gap. Hangs on, hangs on, hangs on. And then boom. Just walls it off right at the perfect time. It's awesome. Awesome stuff. Filling in for Joe Mixon, too. That's right.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Late rock and roll. Who's the number four performing offensive line from week five? Let's go to the desert with the Arizona Cardinals. We obviously saw this play. This play is obviously making its rounds on the highlight reel. But let's take a look. You've got Will Hernandez. Shout out to Will Hernandez.
Starting point is 02:21:08 He's probably been playing the best as their offensive line. Gets a gruesome knee injury. He's out for the year. But I want to just give a little shout to him. He's been phenomenal as this Cardinals offensive line has been really good. Let's also take a look at number 87, Tip Ryman. Tip Ryman. What a name.
Starting point is 02:21:24 Tip. T-I-P. Big tip. Tip Ryman. What a name. Tip. T-I-P. Big Tip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. T-I-P. He's a rookie out of Illinois. Let's watch. So, Bosa is going to be the crash guy.
Starting point is 02:21:34 Like, he has to handle the handoff. So, as he crashes to take this handoff, Tip throws him and then climbs on another Hall of Famer. Warner gets the seal block as we get the kick out by 84. And Kyler's putting the deuces up five yards into this run, knowing, see you boys, I'm out. Tip. Yeah. Boom.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Look at that. And they just wall everything off. They just wall everything off. And right there, he knows he's gone. He's about to go yell at the crowd. He got his top laid back there. 85 with a big block as well in space. That's right.
Starting point is 02:22:04 You got both tight ends handle Mike and Sam to the strong side. You get the kick out on the corner and then Hufanga filled on the fake handoff and it's to the races. Free safety, you got to get him down. I don't know where he's running. But that part of that is Kyler Murray being
Starting point is 02:22:19 5'8 and you can't see him until he pops out sometimes. But having nine guys in the box against 13 personnel, guy goes untouched for 50, that's tough. He's bigger than 5'8. Well you can't see him until he pops out sometimes. But having nine guys in the box against 13 personnel, a guy goes untouched for 50, that's tough. He's bigger than 5'8". Well, it's also not the height he said earlier. I mean, if you watch Ufonga, his eyes, like he doesn't even know Kyler kept this for a good three yards after the fake handoff.
Starting point is 02:22:37 He comes down. He's looking at Connor this entire time. Watch this. And boom, fake the handoff. Ufonga thinks he's got the ball. He's filling. He's filling. He still thinks he has the ball.
Starting point is 02:22:47 He's still filling. Can't see it. He's still filling. Still filling. Still filling. Oh, shit. Yeah. Too late.
Starting point is 02:22:55 Gone. Gone. Gone. Jeez. Yep. Kyler's talking to shit, too. That's good to see. All right.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Who's the number three performing offensive line from week five? Might be one of the top two offensive lines in football right now. Didn't have their best week, but still had a very good week. The Baltimore Ravens are at number three. They have been a steady piece on this group, on this unit, all year long. And let's take a look at this. This is really awesome. So we get Stanley with a nice combo up to 57.
Starting point is 02:23:22 The key to having a fullback in this offense is it allows angles at the next level. You're never out leveraged. Now he's able to combo up to 57 and also take 57 into Bell, the safety. But here's the key. We get the crackback block on Trey Hendrickson on the outside here, right? So Tylan Wallace gets beat over the top. Oh, shit. Don't panic.
Starting point is 02:23:41 Leave him for Ricard. Hey, you take mine. Now I got to hustle my ass off and get the kick out on 29. Boom. And then you get Derrick Henry, 51 yards, game, set, match, and overtime. Okay. So that's like the most important play of the game for them there. Obviously, the bobbled hold was before this.
Starting point is 02:23:58 And they're audibling on the fly pretty much. That means everybody's in sync seeing the play the exact same way. I love when you see this because a lot of times when you get beat, you panic and you just kind of stand there. It's like, no, no, this play's still going. Let's hustle. Let's get on something. Hustle, as we'll see again later, brings the big block
Starting point is 02:24:16 and springs it to the end. Okay, so he's supposed to take somebody. He gets beat by that person. My guy, Ricard's got my back. Let me go pick up Ricard's guy. That's right. Big time run. Let's go win the game.
Starting point is 02:24:27 That's right. Jeez. Ravens are a real deal. Yeah, they're rolling. They're doing everything. Ravens are cooking right now. Quote the Raven. Never more.
Starting point is 02:24:34 Who's the? Edgar Allen Poe. Yeah. And he's sick, motherfucker, man. He is sick. Twisted. It's crazy, dude. One of the sickest fucks I've ever seen.
Starting point is 02:24:47 Edgar Allen Poe? Yeah. He's dark. He's dark shit, man. Devontae posted him on his Instagram. Yeah, that's right. I think that Devontae is going to turn on his sickness and go over to Baltimore. It's going to be a sick fuck for them.
Starting point is 02:25:01 You think so? Yeah, he's going to be a sick fuck. What if he was a sick fuck like Edgar Allen Poe and said, you know what, they just fired their head coach. I want to go to that situation. See, once again, that'd be the sickest fucking move ever. So it's like maybe he does go to the Jets. And maybe he sees Hayner, what he was doing in his photos before the season
Starting point is 02:25:18 and his little submarine sidearm that he did on Monday Night Football. Holy fuck, I want to be a sick fuck with Hayner. That was sick. Hayner to be a sick fuck with Hainer. That was sick. Hainer looks like a sick fuck. I could go be a sick, dark, twisted fuck with Hainer. You think that's what he meant when he posted Edgar Allen Poe, right? Yeah, I think he just meant, like, I'm going to turn into a sick motherfucker for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 02:25:39 I'm going to be the darkest fucking sickest fuck ever. There's a much darker situation. He could go to the Steelers' offense. No chance. No. He don't want that. No, that's what I mean. If you want to be the sickest motherfucker around
Starting point is 02:25:52 and want to torture yourself, go into the offense. That's a different sickness. He's not down with that sickness. Come on, come on. He's not down with that sickness. You know Edgar Allen Poe stuff? Of course, of course. But the sickest move would be going up to New England.
Starting point is 02:26:06 That would be sick. New quarterback, rookie quarterback, back-to-back start in offensive line. Then I fear for the people in New England because he'd be such a sick fuck if he went there. It'd be too much. He'd be the sickest motherfucker of all time. He might not be everybody in New England might turn into
Starting point is 02:26:22 a sick fuck. If Devontae goes there, I worry about Drake May's uncle. Turn into a fucking sick motherfucker on Sunday. Ain't going forward. He'd be the sickest fuck. Be disgusted. Dude, up there, it'd be wicked. He'd be the sickest, wicked fuck.
Starting point is 02:26:40 It would be too much. Who's number two performing offensive line for week five? I bet they're. We would have been saying the same thing about this team. We would have been saying that a couple weeks ago, but not this week. No? The New York Giants. Couple compliments, Sexy Dexy.
Starting point is 02:26:57 That's right. They looked good. And when Daniel Jones was back there and had good protection, he looked like a quarterback again. This was good to see. But let's take a look at this. This is a beautiful single-back power. This is awesome.
Starting point is 02:27:09 The whole offensive line did their job. You get Runyon pulling as we look at it to our left, to his right. This is a single-back power. He's got to come around and block number 17. Linebacker's going to come down and fill it. You get a nice kick-out block. Unbelievable deuce block by Elmenior, I think is how you pronounce it. Elmenior. Elmenior, there it is.
Starting point is 02:27:26 And then, boom, you get an unbelievable, big, gaping hole. And Tracy Jr. just became a guy before our eyes, everyone. Instantly, he probably started the year number three. He just became number two, and
Starting point is 02:27:41 there's people saying he should get some carries when Singletary comes back. Really? He's got to replace the motor. Wow. Bruce, is that what you guys are saying over there? Yeah, a little bit. He's electric out of Purdue.
Starting point is 02:27:53 He should probably split carries with Singletary moving forward, but awesome to see. Two free agent signings highlighted on In the Trenches. Not a bad offseason, maybe. Not a bad. We saw it. We saw it. We watched it. We watched all the decisions that were made over there.
Starting point is 02:28:09 We did. Had a lot of questions. Had a lot of doubt from the ownership. Not as much as in New York, apparently. No. For the Jets, I mean. A lot of doubt from ownership. Especially in New York.
Starting point is 02:28:18 Jeez Louise. Are we sure we want to do that? A lot of that on that Giants. That's right. I'm going to be able to sleep. It's good to see they've got good running backs still. Amen. Good to see that.
Starting point is 02:28:26 Okay, let's go to the number one performing offensive line from week five of the NFL season in the Trenches Award goes to Washington Commanders. Whoa! Unbelievable. Unbelievable. First of all, I love this play that we're going to show. I played for Cliff in 2019, do the math, five years ago.
Starting point is 02:28:46 This was his bread-and-butter run play. We called it 28-man, and you get man scheme, center guard. Guard kicks out right there. Center gets up on the second level. The reason we do this, nine technique. We can keep him wide, tight end, fakes him, bluffs him, goes right to the mic. You get that right now, and then you get the little pitch handoff. Out in space.
Starting point is 02:29:06 Kick out. Center around. Go get him. Boom. Make one cut. And now we go 60 yards. Wow. Let's watch this.
Starting point is 02:29:13 Okay? So we finish this play. Unbelievable. Puts a little move in space. Don't give it away yet. Don't give it away yet. I'm not. Don't give it away yet.
Starting point is 02:29:19 We see the end, right? Okay. Now let's go to the wide view. Let's go to the wide view. With the motion. This will make you think that Dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsbury, and the culture in Washington,
Starting point is 02:29:29 100% good. This play right here, what we're about to see. AQ showed it to me earlier and I said, damn! That's got to feel good to watch on film and know that that's how the boys are kind of operating as commanders this year. So, we got Zachary's going to motion. The key to this is he's going opposite where the run play is cliff loves that let's send motion get eye candy going one way
Starting point is 02:29:49 run the play the other way that guy's a decoy he means nothing to this play fake it cool okay you might affect the backside doesn't matter he's five yards behind the play right we get the hand off now we're going out the gate he could just shut this play down nope this is why you run to the ball hustle your ass off 70 yards at the end of this play down. Nope. This is why you run to the ball. Hustle your ass off. 70 yards. At the end of this play, you'll notice there's a fumble. Who recovered that ball? Zacharias.
Starting point is 02:30:11 Damn. Holy shit. It's not just him either. Scary Terry. They're all fucking. They're all fucking. His ass. Whole team.
Starting point is 02:30:16 It's a whole team. Yep. They're all hauling ass. Not Jason Kelsey. And that motion, it impacted the free safety. Because you see it. His corner turned into the free safety late. So he was kind of scrambling to get even a good angle on Austin Eckler.
Starting point is 02:30:28 So this could have been a 15, 20-yard gain, if that's a normal free safety back there. But that one motion, I can't change the game. Damn. And if I know Cliff the way I think I do, they definitely ran a jet sweep earlier in that game to set that thing up. Right? Everything he's doing is setting something up really to come back something later holy hell he goes from the 14 it's crazy to
Starting point is 02:30:49 the opposite 22 moving moving middle of a play this is just second quarter first and 10 don't worry about it chasing the ball down like that every play matters for the washington commanders this year congratulations to them on being the number one offensive line that performed out of week five and shout out to A. Kusch for taking us in the trenches. Thank you, A. Kusch. One more note. Rookie left tackle against Miles Garrett. Zero sacks, zero pressure.
Starting point is 02:31:14 Who's that? That's for the commanders? Yeah. Adam Coleman. Wow. Or Brandon Coleman. Sorry. BFF still graded Miles 98. Of course. Of course they do. Good technique. He's real good. How does that work? Game ball. Oh, AJ, you're still there. We course they do. Good technique. He's real good. How does that work? Game ball. Oh, AJ, you're still there. We know about that.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Game ball? Keep it moving. Alright, AQ. Before we get out of here, we gotta do a giveaway. Well, at least maybe do a giveaway. Try. AQ, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna shoot a basketball and relive those glory days of high school where you're a western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League Hall of Famer for your high school basketball
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Starting point is 02:33:37 dude wipes nice package and then we'll give 30 people 500 come on q on, A. Cush. For the people. For the ass cheeks! That was cheeks. Wow. Dude. That was cheeks. That throw. Lock in a little. Keep your elbow in. Kevin O'Connell. Your lead elbow. Keep your lead elbow in. Kevin O'Connell. No, your lead elbow.
Starting point is 02:33:59 You gotta point it at that. Don't point it. No, no, no. Keep it tight to your body. But if it was, it should point. It should point. No. No, no. Keep it tight.
Starting point is 02:34:10 It should just point from here. You know why Sam Donald's throwing a ball over the yard? It's keeping it fucking tight. Because KOC said keep it tight. Tight as shit. Keep it so tight that people would say, wow, that guy's as sick as Edgar Allan Poe whenever it comes to keeping his elbow tight.
Starting point is 02:34:27 Edgar Allen Poe is a sick fuck. So sick, man. I literally have the Raven tattooed on my back. Problem. Yeah, that's because you're sick. What's that? Hold on. So Edgar Allen Poe is because the reason
Starting point is 02:34:41 why you have the Raven tattooed on your back? Well, I didn't want to get like a logo. You know, I got the whole story of my career on my back. Yeah. So I picked the Raven from Quoth the Raven, Nevermore. But isn't that a logo? No, it's from a book. It's not the Baltimore Ravens
Starting point is 02:34:56 logo. It's in a book. So it's an actual Raven. Actual Raven. It says Nevermore underneath it. And what's the Baltimore Ravens Raven look like wow it's an actual like logo of a beak face oh it's a cartoony yeah you know what I mean yeah you got an actual Raven on yeah yeah did you get a horse with a Colt yeah what'd you get yeah the flow I got it's like the horseshoes I don't think the flow is in there. Horseshoes are in the eagle's mouth because I went from Philly to Indy.
Starting point is 02:35:25 See what I did there? Oh. But wouldn't it be in the eagle's beak? No. Talons? Talons. Because it's taking you to the Indy. No, it's carrying with the mouth.
Starting point is 02:35:38 Like it does with a fish. Like when it catches a fish. But it eats it. What did you do for a stealer? So if you went cold steel worker, pounding steel because I went Pittsburgh to Indy pounding horseshoes. See what I did?
Starting point is 02:35:50 Oh, shit. That makes sense. What about the Arizona Cardinals? Camelback Mountain. What do you have for Penn State? What about Penn State? What represents that? Nothing. We got some ideas.
Starting point is 02:36:03 I got a couple ideas. We can... We don't have to go there. Yeah, you can put on there, we want Penn State. Maybe you put ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yeah, could do like a bar so just you just put a zombie You can put cocaine zombie nation I like doing that like a little What about cooking representation? That's what their mascot looks like. What is it cocaine bear? Let's get to the there's no reason there We're way past that. A whole new Penn State
Starting point is 02:36:46 team. They're good this year, huh? You guys really good this year? 5-5. Oh, shit. It's status quo, right? Let's get to November. What's your problem? Why are you such a... I'm just bringing up
Starting point is 02:37:02 some points. Just some... Could have number one versus number two November 2nd, AJ. Could. Oh, you go. That's going to be a good one, isn't it? He doesn't know. He has no idea what game that is.
Starting point is 02:37:14 No, he played the Bucs, but I don't care about rankings at that point. Okay, okay. You do know that it is Penn State. I mean, there are three. Stats are for losers. Top four on Saturday, brother. Hey, what's the stats about teams traveling west? One and seven or something?
Starting point is 02:37:27 Ooh. Really? Two time zones. Not exactly west. It's just Big Ten teams traveling two time zones. Okay, because USC traveling east was part of that. USC, Washington. Got it, got it, got it.
Starting point is 02:37:38 One and seven. Indiana goes to UCLA, beats them. That's the one, I believe. Shout out to Coach Cignetti. Thank you, Sig. Thank you, Sig. Thank you, Sig. Oregon-Ohio State this weekend is huge. Two versus three.
Starting point is 02:37:49 Two versus three this weekend. That's gigantic. That place is going to be crazy. Like, yeah, I'm looking forward to watching that one. Ole Miss-LSU is going to be great. Are Buckeyes going to travel? Yeah, there's a bunch of people I know going. I don't know, though.
Starting point is 02:38:03 As far as the whole, like, the stadium, I don't know. They'll probably have their little chunk, you know going. I don't know, though. As far as the whole stadium, I don't know. They'll probably have their little chunk. They probably don't get too many tickets. Yeah, Oregon's going to sell out their allotment of tickets. I assume Ohio State will fill up their allotment as well? Yes, obviously. Oh, yeah. People have been playing this one since they put it on the schedule.
Starting point is 02:38:17 We went out there, was that last year or two years ago? Last year. Last year we were out there? Was it last year? I think it was. Sabrina made two years ago. I think it was. Sabrina? Maybe two years ago. I think it was two. Whatever the case, beautiful.
Starting point is 02:38:28 Trees. Oh, yeah. You know, they talk about the trees. Yeah, Washington was last year. But that was in Washington. You're right. You're right. Yeah, or it was beautiful out there.
Starting point is 02:38:36 Like, beautiful scenery. Like, the views and everything was really nice. Can't wait to get back out there. Only five hours. I think five and a half. That's nice. WVU coal miners uniforms this weekend. Only five hours, I think, five and a half. That's nice. WVU coal miners uniforms this weekend. Big one.
Starting point is 02:38:49 Boys are hot. Let's go. Iowa State coming to town. Good luck. Okay. Neal's going to win this one. First ever three-game win streak on the line. Neal's going to win this one. Let's go, Neal.
Starting point is 02:38:58 Oh, that's good. Ole Miss LSU, though, to your point, though, Connor, real one. Yeah, pump. We got some real. And then next week, there's big – and then next week there's big. And next week there's big. Then next week it's like, here we go. College football is really taking shape.
Starting point is 02:39:10 The new conference alignments are obviously being displayed even more so. Oregon-Ohio State, that's a Big Ten game. That's why it's on NBC there. SC-Penn State, okay, let's go. We got some good shit popping off. Excited about it. And Texas-Oklahoma, the Red River rivalry, this is the first year it's an SEC game.
Starting point is 02:39:27 So, you know, it's all going for college football. Even bigger. Quinn, back. Quinn Ewers, I don't know what the reports are. I know what the information I've been told was. I don't know if it's public or not. I think it's out there that he's playing. All the highlights for the game promo are Quinn Ewers now.
Starting point is 02:39:45 Okay. Quinn's back. They reported that last week. Yeah. Quinn's back. I never know what I'm allowed. That's why I don't ask anybody questions in the NFL world because I don't want to know. I'll find out what everybody else finds out. We're all playing on the same.
Starting point is 02:40:01 Because then whenever people are like, hey, can I tell you something? No, I don't want to know. Unless you want it to get out, don't tell me. I'm in a microphone three hours every single day and then three on Saturday as well. And then I think I'm picking up an hour on Sunday as well. So there's a lot that can happen. So I would rather know what everybody else does. But then you have one conversation with Pete Thamel.
Starting point is 02:40:19 And Pete Thamel just knows everything going on everywhere. And I'm like, Pete, has that been made public? Not yet. And I'm like, I don't know if you should have told me that. Everything going on everywhere. And I'm like, Pete, has that been made public? Not yet. And I'm like, I don't know if you should have told me that. Pete is a weapon. Oh, yeah. Pete's got it all. How about this year? Real mocks you out of Pete Tamel, too. I mean, the O-T-T-O-O-G-O.
Starting point is 02:40:36 Oh, no. O-T-T-T-O-T-O. He is supposed to be O-T-T-T-O-G-O. So it's ought to go. I know. The song's a banger. He spelled O-T-T-t-o-g-o so it's ought to go yeah i know the song's a banger he's spelled o-t-t-t-o-t-o so close and then social media put it out there and like magnified it they're like pete damel says o-t-t-t-o-t-o and everybody's like he's wrong he's like you get what pete tam was trying to yeah oh it's good to go which we appreciate pete tam doing it need to bring that fisherman costume back.
Starting point is 02:41:06 Yeah, in Oregon, he should. Makes sense. Maybe he's a lumberjack up there. Maybe he's chopping ducks' heads off. Or chickens. Can we get that Aflac duck back again? I like that duck. Or is Stanford Steve too scared of it?
Starting point is 02:41:19 I did feel like Steve was a little intimidated by a duck named Ben, by the way, the Aflac duck. Oh, another Ben, huh? Okay. like steve was a little intimidated by a duck named ben by the way the athletic ducks oh another band huh okay what's your deal okay jeez guess we just love ben's all all day we did that ben was good that was a good duck just like ben's a good dog i love ben the dog but everybody was a bit confused that the other dog that was acting perfectly, or the other animal that was acting perfectly was named Ben. That was certainly a conversation.
Starting point is 02:41:49 That's Ben. That dog, it's a human. Did you guys eat the duck after? Did you eat the duck after? Duck is a famous personality. It's called Ben. No. Steve, how about Steve right right now he's like 12 and
Starting point is 02:42:06 three or something on the year hot steve's good no distractions for steve this year i i think he is locked in i think he is locked in there's no more refrigerator behind him he's got an led board he's got this duck that he was i think he was shoot scared of i think he was shoot scared of the duck i think it was because i was over there and there was a lot of interaction between me and steve steve was trying to keep eyes off duck I think it was because I was over there and there wasn't a lot of interaction between me and Steve. Steve was trying to keep eyes off duck, I think. He looked like he was going to snap its neck right there. I thought geese are attack. Canadian geese are obviously terrorizers.
Starting point is 02:42:34 They are wild. And then those big ones, the big swans, they also do the attack and they get very territorial. Ducks, I don't really know. So that's why when I walked over, I did the back of the hand to the front of the duck. It was like you do it to dogs. Basically like, hey, you can get a scent here. I'm not trying to touch you. I'm also not trying to kill you
Starting point is 02:42:54 here. So I went back of hand to duck. Duck, no reaction. I don't know how it smells. I don't know if it smells good or not. So then I start petting the back of its head. I go right for head, which you're not supposed to do with dogs. But with a duck, I feel like if me and this duck got into it, I'd be okay. Was initial thought. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:10 So then I start petting the duck and it just like, it like almost started like leaning into it. Like a dog would. I'm like this thing. And then when Kirk starts rubbing its like chest and it started wiggling its tail. And I'm like, is that territorial tail? Or is that like a happy tail? Feels like this duck was... Shake your tail better.
Starting point is 02:43:27 Bingo. Duck was happy. Duck was a good animal. I almost thought about getting a pet duck immediately after that. Just like anything, though, there are bad ones out there. A duck will fuck your day up if it wanted to.
Starting point is 02:43:36 Yeah. You sure that's a real one? Come on. Don't be a fucking... They named it Ben, butts. I'm asking you. You don't think that's a real duck I pet? Do I think that's a real duck?
Starting point is 02:43:51 Come on. If it's not flying through the sky, fucking get the batteries out the back of it, bro. No way! Yeah. I pet that thing. I bet you did. It was obviously very sentient.
Starting point is 02:44:03 It enjoyed the feeling. Yeah, there you go yeah just doing what it's programming told it to do okay all right let's get back to a football toss i refuse to believe and don't tell me that oregon duck is also fake okay he came in here doing it song and dance i don't i hate that guy no yeah that's a great mascot go bucks that duck no yeah Yeah. It's a great mascot. Go Bucs, bitch.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Fuck that duck. No! Yeah. Really? Yeah, all day. Duck's awesome. All day. Jeremiah Smith on your head, bitch.
Starting point is 02:44:31 Duck's got good personality. Yeah, I guess. Push-ups are bullshit. Don't tell me those push-ups are real fucking push-ups. Well, it had a beak. Had a beak. Exactly. Move it.
Starting point is 02:44:41 Move it to me? You're not a real duck, bitch. You can move your fucking head. Do your push-ups. There's no reason for the Oregon Duck to be getting this right now. I didn't bring it up. On a Wednesday. I guess, but it's game week. Go Bucs.
Starting point is 02:44:53 Dan Lanning's not going to be happy about that. I love Dan Lanning. Friend of the program. I also love Ryan Day and Chip Kelly. How about Ryan Day? Coach Dutch Danger was the coach of the Ohio State Bucs. Coach Dutch Danger has been practicing quite some time. Unfortunately.
Starting point is 02:45:09 Fell off the wagon. Me and AQ were playing for a little bit. I haven't been to practice. That's all right, Coach Dutch. That's going to happen. Been in the pros. AQ Shipley, if you can put that football into that hoop right over there, we'll give 30 people $500 on the way out of here.
Starting point is 02:45:25 There you go. Before you throw, though, Ohio State Buckeye legend, A.J. Hawk has something to say to you. A.Q., have you registered to vote yet? All right. Here we go. Come on. That's very nice of you.
Starting point is 02:45:37 Rock the vote. Duck Hodges. That's what you're supposed to do, register to vote. Register to vote. Okay, that's good. I'm happy everybody's doing that. AJ's next question. He was going to have a follow-up, by the way,
Starting point is 02:45:49 just like he tried to do earlier in the program, and I apologize for cutting him off. He should be registered to vote, and he can do that now. Is it like a once-registered, always-registered situation? I think so, yeah. They keep you in. They keep you locked in. There might be a new place for you to go vote at, too.
Starting point is 02:46:02 Early voting is still available, obviously. AQ Shipley, if you throw that football into that hoop right over there, whoever you're going to vote for is going to win the presidency. Okay? And 30 people are going to get $500. This is a big one, a lot of pressure. Here we go, AQ. The fate of the future.
Starting point is 02:46:22 All right, that's on you. That's the show, ladies and gentlemen. That is the show. no oh no noted um all right 30 people 500 the fate of the election is not on the line okay i feel like that freaked you out a little bit 30 people that are happiness you're nowhere near it. That's a good line. Right on it. Get it there. Right on it. You haven't been to it.
Starting point is 02:46:48 That's a good line. You're babying it. You haven't been to it yet. Fucking throw the thing. They're at the wrong angle. Just a little more juice. I'm actually on the angle. You know, you're saying.
Starting point is 02:46:58 Just a little more juice. This is actually kind of like what refs have to do when a punk goes out of bounds. You know how a ref, you know how they spot that? The ref in the back literally tries to eyeball it, and there's hands like this, and then the other ref is running until they intercept this arbitrary line here. That's a real deal. 14-yard line. I've been fucked 10 to 12 yards before by a ref, and boy, I was not thrilled about it.
Starting point is 02:47:22 I was not thrilled about it at all. He said, I hit a better punt, maybe keep it in bounds. We don't have to worry about this. I was like, I tried to put it out in bounds. That's what I tried to do because they're running over and eyeballing it. With that being said, I've been eyeballing these last few. Not fucking close. A little more. Put it in there.
Starting point is 02:47:37 Let's go for it a little bit. AQ! For the good of the Nittany Lions! Not even close. Little more juice. Aim for the back of the guy. A little more juice. All right, here we go. Aim for the back of the rim. Quit fucking babying it. A.Q. Shipley, a man who is a Super Bowl champion.
Starting point is 02:47:57 He's a player coach, formerly of the Tampa Buccaneers. Now he does personalized training sessions in the off seasons with offensive linemen in the shipyard. Con Man, what's your favorite part of the shipyard? My favorite part of the shipyard is when there's, like, piss in the toilet from two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah, that's part of the grit and the jam of the shipyard. You can flush the toilet, but why would you?
Starting point is 02:48:14 The smell of piss is what should be driving you. Motivate you. Hey, Q, if you put that football into that hoop right over there, founder of the shipyard, 30 people will win $500. For the shipyard, too strong, too $500. For the shipyard. Too strong. Too strong. Now me in the middle. I once walked into the shipyard and I think he was doing the
Starting point is 02:48:31 mechanic. It was quite the sight. The mechanic. What exactly? Oh, I have seen the mechanic. We don't need a fool. We don't need a fool. We're good. Everybody's okay. 30 people, $500 straight out of the shipyard.
Starting point is 02:48:47 Don't know about the mechanic maneuver, but I do know that the piss is still sitting in that toilet. Probably from last offseason. Yeah. Thank you. All you got to do is throw the ball into that hoop over there. Of course, this is going to be the one, isn't it? Oh.
Starting point is 02:49:00 Jeez. All right. Good work today, bub. Good work. Thank you. Good job. The football thing's not for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:07 You're not wearing a Crocs, that's why. Yeah, what's that all about? You got a different wardrobe today, seemingly. Are you working little side deals, a row back and Sunday red? No, my dad. Seems like he's. Are you? Yeah, he's trying to get into some golf courses.
Starting point is 02:49:22 My dad said something to me this week. He's like, are you ever going to wear pants again? And so I got bullied into wearing pants. Fucking daddy's boy. Dad doesn't like the calves, bro? I don't know. Be your own man. I don't think he liked the shoes.
Starting point is 02:49:35 Well, I can see why. All right, everybody in the back, good work today, boys. Graphic department, good work, boys. Hey, Cush, good work, boys. Good work, boys. Hey, Q, good work today. Thank you. Hey, P-Tone, really well done. Good journalism from the talk table today, boys. Good journalism.
Starting point is 02:49:54 Great work, Pat. Great work. Great work. AJ, good work, AJ. Good work, AJ. Pretty good program today. Absolutely. A lot of things happened.
Starting point is 02:50:02 Why did Greeny still not call us back from yesterday? Oh, he didn't. He's still real. I didn't even get a text. Did Jerry V? Did we piss off Greeny? Gary! Gary Tone! Sorry, did Gary V call you back? Fuck. You called him Jerry? I thought he did pronounce it Jerry during the football season for the Jets. No, this wasn't a gif-jif thing. No. It was always... Because of the J and the J. Yeah, that's what I thought. Greeny!
Starting point is 02:50:24 We're alive! We are live. We are live. All right. I called you yesterday three times while we were live. No callback. No text. I was on the golf course hiding from you. Okay, smart play.
Starting point is 02:50:36 Smart play. Did you watch Aaron today? What's your takeaway? What are your thoughts on it all? I've watched all of the clips. I had to go do something for Disney at a thing, but I've watched all of the clips. I had to go do something for Disney at a thing, but I've watched all of the clips. Look, what I said this morning on television and I stand by it is that no one is blameless in what has been a very messy situation.
Starting point is 02:50:56 But Aaron Rodgers, I think, carries the least of the blame. This thing starts at the very top. When an organization has had the struggles that the Jets have had for a quarter of a century, you go to the only thread of commonality amongst everyone, and that is the man who now apparently wants to be known as Ambassador Johnson, Woody Johnson, who has owned the team since exactly 2000. And in that time, they've had the 26th best record in the NFL. Having said that, what they did yesterday McAfee was the right thing to do. Firing Robert Sala was the right thing to do. Moving forward and taking their shot
Starting point is 02:51:32 with Aaron Rodgers was the right thing to do. Going out and getting Devonte Adams is the right thing to do and not only because it means I won't have to wear one of your tank tops on get up. Would be so. So while I'm not, I certainly don't have a great deal of confidence that all this is going to end well, I actually am not convinced it isn't either, and the solution is Rodgers. He has been a small part of the problem,
Starting point is 02:51:59 and if it's going to get fixed, he's going to have to be practically all of the solution. All right. Greeny, what an answer out of you. That's what we were hoping for yesterday, but obviously had to get on. He's going to have to be practically all of the solution. All right. Greeny, what an answer out of you. That's what we were hoping for yesterday, but obviously had to get on get up first, which we appreciate and respect. We watched this morning. Didn't know if anything changed from the Disney
Starting point is 02:52:13 event, watching Aaron, but I'm happy to hear that you're not as pessimistic as maybe you could be in this situation, firing a head coach after five weeks. I was hiding from the world yesterday. The Jets made this move at 10-0-2. I took that personally. As Michael Jordan might famously have said,
Starting point is 02:52:34 I took that personally. They made me wait 21 hours and 58 minutes to go on the air and give my thoughts, and I was coming. There was no way in the world I was letting that go. But in all honesty, I was on the golf course. I didn and I was coming. There was no way in the world I was letting that go. But in all honesty, I was on the golf course. I didn't even see that you had called me until after I was
Starting point is 02:52:50 done. I would never. Yeah, of course, Greeny, we understand. You know I love you guys. We love you too and we know you're coming too, you know, especially with these types of situations all the time. All right, Greeny. And I'm telling you, we're going to get Devante and I'm not going to lose this bet. I'm not going to have to wear the tank top on the air. All the time. All right, Greeny. And I'm telling you, we're going to get Devontae,
Starting point is 02:53:06 and I'm not going to lose this bet. I'm not going to have to wear the tank top on the air. I'm still positive I'm going to win this bet. Even after, really? More so now than ever or no? Yes, we're going to get Devontae Adams. How do you not? How do you fire the coach five games into the season if you're not planning on trying to do everything in your power to go forward?
Starting point is 02:53:27 Woody Johnson did this because he thinks it's the best chance they have of winning this year. There is no next year with Aaron Rodgers and the rest of that team. There is only this year. They will get Devontae Adams by next week at the latest. All right, Grady, we appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Missed you guys. See you soon. See you. We have Grady. All right, Greeny, we appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Missed you guys. See you soon.
Starting point is 02:53:45 See you. Have a great day. All right, there it is. Sounds pretty confident. Even more so. We'll see, yeah. I'm telling you, after the London game, I thought, yeah, they're going to want to move for Devontae more now.
Starting point is 02:53:55 And then Sheffer was like, I don't know if that's the case. And then head coach gets fired. I'm like, so now definitely. Sheffer's like, it's kind of last year contract for GM. Fired a head coach. Do you want to spend a future two to do that and renegotiate a contract? Interesting. I hope it happens, you know,
Starting point is 02:54:14 just because it would be cool to watch. But obviously, Coach Sala is probably wondering, are we going to get Devontae in the offseason? At the end of the year, maybe? That would have been cool for me. Coach Sala, enjoy the uh downtime oh yeah coach get some rest brother get some rest seven kids leave those stairs alone no he's running the stadium stay in shape he's Jack he's running stairs today definitely
Starting point is 02:54:39 Hoboken High School for sure definitely literally going to the high school stadium to run what do you think he's listening to what do you think the song is i the tiger yeah you think it's five finger death punch he looks like it it does and what what is what is the song the five finger death punch would sing the bleeding which sounds like what what's the sound of that song i am the bleeding okay you think that's what Coach Sala's listening to? Yep. Is that the whole song there? Is that like the chorus?
Starting point is 02:55:08 That's just the chorus. That's the chorus right there? Yeah. How do we get to it? How do we get to the chorus? Is there just like yelling the whole time? No, good voice. Good voice lead up.
Starting point is 02:55:16 We're singing. We're singing. Asking if anybody knows who we are. And then we just go, I am the bleeding. Who's this again? Five-finger death punch. Hell yeah, dude. Of course.
Starting point is 02:55:30 That's what I listened to before games as well. So you think Coach Sala definitely doing that? For sure. Yeah, you and him piecing it together there. It's your birthday too. You kind of did there. Do you go to these concerts? Have you ever been to five?
Starting point is 02:55:42 Some of the best people watching of all time. Are you fighting in there? No, I stay out of the m of the best people watching of all time. Are you fighting in there? No, I stay out of the mosh pits. So those mosh pits, people really fighting in there? I mean, they're running into each other. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do it, do it.
Starting point is 02:55:53 I'm listening to it right now. What do you think? Yeah, it sounds good. Sounds really good. It's good, right? Yeah. It's not always yelling, it sounds like. Doesn't sound like he's always telling a story a little bit.
Starting point is 02:56:06 A little story. Have you ever been in a mosh pit or any of these? No. I want no part of it. They're like really throwing hands. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like bombs.
Starting point is 02:56:14 Get after it. Yeah. Like people get like pretty fucked up at these. Fucked up. Yeah. Are there any rules? No. No.
Starting point is 02:56:20 No. No. Okay. I've never been to a, that's a lie. I've been to one concert that had a mosh pit in it. It was at a bar. No. Okay. I've never been to a, that's a lie. I've been to one concert that had a mosh pit in it. It was at a bar. Nice. And it was like eight people doing it.
Starting point is 02:56:31 Nice. And you could just kind of step back, and you saw them fighting each other pretty much while music was playing. And I was like, God damn. And they're like every show. Every show, this is how it goes. That's how it goes. Every one of them.
Starting point is 02:56:42 And you haven't been in there one time. And every rock concert's like six. Nobody's going. If you go to a decent pop, there's a pretty good undercard. There's decent bands, right? It's every awesome rock band because nobody's going to seven different rock concerts. They're going to one and you're getting six bangers, right? And it's mosh pit.
Starting point is 02:57:04 Was it Aussie? Who else is there? Five Finger Death Punch? to one and you're getting like sick bangers, right? And it's mosh pit. Who else is there? Five Finger Death Punch? Il Nino, Bad Wolves. Bad Wolves. What do they sing? They sing a song. They sing a lot. They sang the Cranberries remake of Zombie. Oh, Zombie's a good song.
Starting point is 02:57:20 Zombie, zombie, zombie, hey, hey, hey, zombie. Since moving down. Zombie, zombie, zombie. You know that song. Yeah, you know that one. Absolute banger.
Starting point is 02:57:45 There's a video going around of top 10 white people songs. Saw that. That's awesome video it's on there i don't think so john bon jovi was number 10. i didn't make it past further past that or lobsky didn't know living on the songs i could probably get live living up there you gotta be on there what's what's up let me see ph Phil Collins. Yep. In the air tonight. Sweet Caroline. Okay. Mbop by Hanson. For sure. Mbop.
Starting point is 02:58:13 Mbop. Mbop. Yep. There it is. Is that on there? I don't know. If it's on there, it should be, though, it sounds like. It's got to be Eminem's song. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:58:21 It's got to be Eminem. That is an interesting. One of the biggest selling acts of all time. Okay, so we'll put him on there. I don't know what they, I didn't listen to the whole video. I didn't listen to the whole video. Dan Malovsky said, I don't know something. Don't stop me.
Starting point is 02:58:35 Oh, don't stop me. Yeah, I was number 10 on there. It's got to be a Journey song on there. That was 10? That's Don't Stop Believin'. That was number 10, yeah. Oh, yeah. Journey, Bon Jovi.
Starting point is 02:58:43 What about Country Roads? Country Roads has got to be on there. Some Tom Petty song, I assume. Sweet Caroline that everyone sings along to. Doobie Brothers was on there. Kansas, Carry On, My Wayward Son. That's a good song. Carry on, my wayward son.
Starting point is 02:58:55 I don't think it's songs we like. No, you're talking about Iconic. You're talking about Iconic. You know that song, right? Yeah, for sure. No, come on. Everybody knows that. Okay, so that's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 02:59:04 Okay. Last Dance with Mary Jane, probably Tom Petty. Yeah yeah don't know that one oh good song don't know that yeah i sang it for my uh my rookie song at training camp everybody yeah everybody joined in you just stopped it was great yeah that's good that's that's the whole goal of this rookie get a sing-along yeah we don't need a i'm not doing it again this generation i hope this generation isn't the same as that generation that was happening there spoken word let me tell my life story here in front of the team is everybody's miserable i came from nothing if i can look around buddy a lot of us did
Starting point is 02:59:42 jesus christ we don't want to hear it. God damn it. Got injured. Found a way back. Shut up, dude. Nobody believed in me. We don't care. It was getting bad. These kids were opening their souls in these rookie shows.
Starting point is 02:59:59 Boom. I give everything I can every single day. Shut the fuck up. All right. I was never been more uncomfortable in my. Shut the fuck up. All right. I was never been more uncomfortable in my life. I'm like three rows back. I'm kind of in front of person. There's debris getting thrown at this guy.
Starting point is 03:00:16 He's spilling his fucking life story right in front of me in Vinatieri. Jesus. You got to leave, bud. Sorry about it. Time to go. Then he got Tom Petty singing up there. That's the right move. There you go.
Starting point is 03:00:24 Yeah. Ain't no mountain high. about it time to go then he got tom petty singing up there that's the right move there you go yeah ain't no mountain high ain't no valley no ain't no river that'll bring everybody together yeah there's a couple songs that just bring whole crew alive what is it piano man billy jones that's a good one that feels like little while, though, I think, to kind of get to it. Yeah. Friends in Low Places. Who sings that song? Jeez. Mr. Garth Brooks, I believe.
Starting point is 03:00:50 All right. Let's get out of here. You wouldn't know, wouldn't you? Yeah, all right. Let's get out of here. True boy. What's going on here? Be a friend.
Starting point is 03:00:58 Tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We appreciate you all for allowing us to do this for a living. We're incredibly lucky. Today was really cool. Hopefully, we added, you know, good to the sports conversation today. That's all we're trying to do this for a living. We're incredibly lucky. Today was really cool. Hopefully we added, you know, good to the sports conversation today. That's all we're trying to do every single day. Add a distraction, add a little happiness, add a laugh,
Starting point is 03:01:12 add some sports news. And sports are literally the greatest thing on earth. So we're lucky to be a part of it. Team on me. Great work today. AQ, safe travels back. Darius, great work this week, buddy. Safe travels. You as well. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team! Goodbye!

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