The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1221 - Army Head Coach Jeff Monken, Indiana Head Coach Curt Cignetti, JJ Watt, Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane, Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about Davante Adams getting traded to the Jets and likely suiting up and playing on Sunday Night against the Steelers..., Amari Cooper getting dealt to the Bills, and what the biggest takeaways from week 6 were as we wrap it up and look ahead to week 7. On today’s show, Pat and the boys are also joined by 4 unbelievable guests including Head Coach of the undefeated Army Football team, Jeff Monkey, Head Coach of the undefeated Indiana Football team, Curt Cignetti, future first ballot Hall of Famer JJ Watt, and General Manager of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Beane. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Watt Wednesday, October 16th, 2024, this program starts right now. Football! It is awesome. We're so incredibly lucky to talk about it every single day. Yesterday was a massive day. Today is as well. We have two of the undefeated head coaches in college football joining us later in this hour. Coach Munkin from Army. Hell yeah. USA. USA. USA. USA. And then coach Sig Signetti. Yeah. Of the Indiana Hoosiers. USA. USA. Can't wait to chat with him. J.J. Watt will join us. And then Brandon Bean,
Starting point is 00:00:41 general manager of the Buffalo Bills, who just made the big-time trade for Mari Cooper yesterday, will join us at 205 Eastern on YouTube, ESPN Plus, and TikTok Live. Now, for those platforms that are watching currently, and I don't know the TV numbers, I think they're looking into it, yesterday was like one of the biggest days we've ever had. We can't thank you enough for walking with us. Hell yeah. We're so incredibly lucky to do this every single day. And for as long as you'll have us, we will certainly do it. That was on X yesterday, about 32 million impressions, 31 ads, a big do this every single day. And for as long as you'll have us, we will certainly do it. That was on X yesterday. About 32 million impressions, 31 ads.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Big, massive, massive day. Yeah. Now, shout out to, obviously, Aaron stopping by for Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. And for Devontae Adams just popping his head in. It was okay. Spending a college football. I don't know if you saw the paint on the tips of the ball. I didn't understand that completely.
Starting point is 00:01:22 The guy was going back to his roots, maybe. That's right. Maybe that's what he was saying in the entirety of it all. Yesterday was a cool day. The NFL never quits. Amari Cooper was traded. We'll talk to Bean. Devontae stops by yesterday. There's a lot of other sports taking place on this glorious Wednesday that we'll
Starting point is 00:01:35 dive into. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, how you doing, pal? I'm doing great. I'm doing absolutely wonderful. We've got Thursday Night Football starting tomorrow. It's a big one. I'm doing absolutely wonderful. You know, we're, I mean, we got Thursday Night Football starting tomorrow. And while it's a huge game, it is a massive game. Man, can't wait to talk about that one tomorrow. I know, I know. I'm already thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I'm already losing sleep thinking about how excited I am for that game. Oh, you're losing sleep with the newborn. Yeah, exactly. And it's hard because it's like, hey, I should be more focused on my baby. But I'm also thinking like, I've been waiting all week for Thursday night. Broncos, Saints, are you kidding me? Great game, but no. I mean, every Wednesday it's like, okay, new NFL week's here. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And then on top of it, you mentioned it, you know, we got baseball happening right now. So I'm doing wonderful. Baseball happening right now. Hockey happening right now. That too. Penguins are hot. The Vegas Golden Knights started out hot.
Starting point is 00:02:26 We will continue to dive into all of it. Nine-year NFL vet. Host of everything DB. Good D, bad D yesterday. Phenomenal say, I guess. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Baldwin. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:02:36 D-Buch, how you doing, pal? I'm doing great. How about yourself? Hey, I have a question for you. You as a man who played nine years in the NFL at corner, nickel, and safety. Now, whenever you hear about a Murray Cooper getting traded to the Buffalo Beals okay for uh like a like a third in a seventh but a sixth also counteracts it so one I mean the trade what it was you know good trade for Buffalo
Starting point is 00:02:58 that's what I said I actually immediately upon hearing about it I said this feels like a heist then I seen some stats and analytics where people were like amari you're you're thinking about the wrong amari cooper amari cooper uh drops ball it doesn't do great and then i think to myself is that amari cooper or is that situation he's in and if you get him in buffalo with josh allen is he immediately going to resort back to amari cooper i feel like that's a yes i feel like it's a great get for them you've got a chance to kind of like sleep on it, think about it a little bit. What are your thoughts on the Amari Cooper trade to the Buffalo Bills? That was, I don't want to say kind of overshadowed by Devontae going to Aaron,
Starting point is 00:03:32 but same exact day, and there was a running back trade as well yesterday. Yesterday was wild. What are your thoughts on Amari going to Buffalo? Kind of reminds me a little bit of when OBJ got out of Cleveland, went to L.A., and immediately fit in. They found a role for him, found routes. Amari Cooper is a pro. He's an ultimate pro.
Starting point is 00:03:47 He can score from anywhere. 62 TDs in his career. Can run the full route tree. And then moving to Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills offense. Last two seasons, I got some stats from Himbo. Ooh. Yeah, you're not the only one that gets stats from Himbo. Over the last two seasons.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Shout out, Himbo. Josh Allen has only thrown five 30-yard TD passes. 17 QBs have thrown more than him. Cooper, obviously, will add explosions. Bill's ranked 23rd right now in NFL in explosive play rate. So you would expect Omari Cooper to add to that. Obviously, Keion Coleman, they drafted him in the second round. Probably expected a little more out of him earlier.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I think he'll develop into a very, very, very good number two receiver. And being in the meeting room with Amari Cooper every day will only help. Obviously, Khalil Shakur is another weapon for them that I think will open up the field more. And then, obviously, when you bring another weapon in on the outside, it always opens things up for the run game. So I'm excited for what this will do for Buffalo and what this will do for Josh Allen and offense. Run game and tight ends. I mean, you're talking about just a great piece being added in there.
Starting point is 00:04:48 What is this message that Cleveland's saying? We shall see. What is this message from the Buffalo Bills? We'll ask Brandon Bean at 205 Eastern whenever he joins us. Because, you know, they've been down on the explosive plays. You lose Stephon Diggs, obviously, in the offseason. You trade him away to Houston. They're in the lead in the AFC East, 4-2.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Fresh off a massive win against the Jets on Monday night. And they're still like, okay, we still got to get a little bit better. You had Amari Cooper. I think it's a great move. Oh, yeah. And I love that Bean has told us in the past, front of the program, we're very lucky for that. Bean has said, like, if anything's up anywhere, he'll snoop around.
Starting point is 00:05:21 He's like, I'm always interested. And I'm like, what do you mean you're always interested? He's like, if you read something or hear something or think something like i'll give a call just to be like hey can our team get better here and what do you need there so i'm calling cleveland saying is marie cooper available and i'm going yeah he is actually what is cleveland saying what is that move by cleveland legitimately that's a big conversation piece especially with a quarterback contract that doesn't have uh breaking until 2027 right is that move by Cleveland? Legitimately, that's a big conversation piece, especially with a quarterback contract that doesn't have a break in it until 2027. Right?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Is that what we learned yesterday? Yeah, exactly. Day caps massive till then. Like 100-plus million for the next couple years if you were to get rid of Deshaun Watson. Yeah. To get rid of one of his best weapons, even though he's having a bad year, I guess, so far for the Cleveland Browns. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:02 That's a big conversation we shall see. And then the other trade, Devontae going to the New York Jets happened on Monday night, I guess, so far for the Cleveland Browns. I don't know. That's a big conversation we shall see. And then the other trade, Devontae going to the New York Jets, happened on Monday night, I guess, or Monday early evening, whenever the time is revealed. We'll certainly be appreciative of that so we can clarify some stories. But Devontae going and joining Aaron Rodgers is no different than what has happened in the past with some people whenever they find new homes, new teams. Gronk went down to Tampa Bay out of retirement to join Tom Brady. I think Peyton had Stokely out there in Denver. And then you think about a coach that bounced around place to place,
Starting point is 00:06:32 and this one guy that we know got hired at every single one of those places. People like working with people they're familiar with, especially at very important positions. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion player coach, Jackie Moon of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at one point. Thank you, Shipley. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Thank you. Obviously, Devontae, going back to Aaron, is not a strange thing in the NFL. People like familiarity. But anywhere Bruce Arians went, you basically had a job, which is why you ended up down in Tampa. What does that type of chemistry do for your relationship with Bruce, but more importantly for Devontae and Aaron? Why do you think this move was made, and do you think it's a great one? Trust is everything in the NFL. Trust is everything. That's why Bruce loved bringing me places because he trusted that I would be in the
Starting point is 00:07:11 right place at the right time on the field, controlling the whole line. And when you get a guy like Devontae to Aaron, it's the same thing. He trusts that when he throws a back shoulder, he's going to be ready for it. When he throws the fade ball, he's going to be ready for it. When he throws a no-look ball down the field, he's going to be there. it. When he throws the fade ball he's going to be ready for it. When he throws a no-look ball down the field, he's going to be there. Yeah. You're talking about everything that happened Monday night. You're saying like Monday night when he hit a guy in the penis with a ball.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Right, right. And that guy had no idea the ball was coming on a third down. That's potentially something that won't happen with Devontae. That's right. Whenever he throws a no-look deep ball down the field, maybe, just maybe there's a chance he'll know where he is because Aaron has told us numerous times, and we talked about it yesterday, there's times where he just looks out at Devontae and gives a look.
Starting point is 00:07:51 A little head nod. And they're like, yep, 2007. That's exactly what I thought. Didn't even say anything. And then so helps Garrett Wilson out. Yeah, helps everybody. Helps run game out. Brees Hall is already cooking again.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He looked fast again. You know, like he looked like how he looked because there was a time there, his rookie year, I think, before he got hurt, where every week it was Brees Hall and then the defense. 70, 80. And then the defense was back here. And it was like, wow, this guy's faster than everybody. And then it looked
Starting point is 00:08:17 like it on Monday. It was for 116, 115, 50 through the year, too. He goes massive. This helps out the entire team. Should I be as excited as Greeny was yesterday? He came in. McAfee!
Starting point is 00:08:33 Sick moves. McAfee! And then he even had props. You see him open the jack. It's back! Hi-oh! And then we're invading the New York get-up office. Should we be as excited as he is if you're a Jets fan, you think?
Starting point is 00:08:45 Everyone should be excited. What about the protection, though? What about the protection? That's the biggest question, right? Like excited as he is if you're a Jets fan, you think? Everyone should be excited. What about the protection, though? What about the protection? That's the biggest question, right? Like, the offensive line has to do a better job, period. Now, they got Morgan Moses back. That helped, right? Like, they look a little bit better. But Tyron Smith, like, he's getting older.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You still need some help. You got to – anytime you do chip help, you lose a guy – you lose a back out on the flat. You lose a tight end, maybe out in the route tree. There's so many things that go into it which you don't understand, and you've got a guy coming to town this week, T.J. Watt, who's pretty damn good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah, T.J. Do they move T.J. too? He stays on the right tackle most of the time. Yeah, he's always like right-hand quarterback frontside. See me. Yeah. Because at the Indianapolis Colts game, I told you I was on. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I know. He had a pretty physical presence. Yeah, he's a daunting character yeah he's got what they call aura oh there it is i believe he's got a lot of it and when he's down there in that stance it's like what is wrong with this thing this thing there's something wrong with it he wrecks games bro wrecks game and i think that's going to be a part of one of your talking points actually looking back here on week six what are your three talking points that we need to pay attention a little bit more to pal staying right Staying right with TJ Watt. Let's start with TJ Watt.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Let's take a look. Listen, he needs to be mentioned. We all are aware that the MVP is going to go to a quarterback, right? It has to be mentioned that this guy should be in that conversation. The Steelers are a different team without him in the lineup. When he's in the lineup, you got to deal with this. And here's the deal. You got a tight end, number 81 out there. He's going to chip him. And as he chips him, he gets around the chip, still beats the tackle, when he's in the lineup, you've got to deal with this. And here's the deal. You've got a tight end, number 81 out there. He's going to chip him. And as he chips him, he gets around the chip, still beats the tackle, gets a hit on the quarterback. Guy wreaks havoc all game long.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Even when he's not making plays and in on the play. That was a hell of a completion. This guy's more of an MVP. Send that to Devontae. You know, O'Connell. What the hell? Who's picking these plays? That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Hell of a completion. But he's still getting a hit on the quarterback after being chipped in the tackle. Frog foul. Frog foul. There had to be another play. What the hell? No, I'm just showing simply that he gets chipped. He's got to be exhausted after every game.
Starting point is 00:10:36 When you go through this, they send a back at him. They send a tight end at him. They slide the line. Hey, no, Connell, what are you saying? Another bow. But he takes the hit. This one, you got a crack block on the outside. Beats it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Presses upfield. Comes back. Punches the ball out. Okay. There we go. He's constantly making plays. That's an MVP play. That's an MVP play.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I think what you were trying to say earlier is even on plays where he's not getting a stat, he's still interrupting. He's still interrupting. Got it. Okay. The quarterback knows he's there. Now, check this out. You got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven guys.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You got seven blockers, but guess what? We don't block number six because of the presence that 90 has. Takes two and still punches the ball out and gets the ball out. Okay, so once again here, he has a stat on a punch out. Obviously a tackle for loss there, I believe, as well. But what's not being accounted in the stats is, look at Patrick
Starting point is 00:11:20 Queen get a free shot because they're so focused on 90 every single week. It happens all the time with the big-time players, with Aaron Donaldald over the years you put two or three guys on him and somebody else is unblocked because you put all the attention on him game ball number 90 tj watt every single week well deserved number 90 absolutely all right what's the second talking point okay let's go to the detroit lions biggestgest gaping holes. Not big gaping holes. Biggest gaping holes. Let's take a look at this.
Starting point is 00:11:49 We got three runs here. Let's take a look at this. Tell me if you've ever seen holes this big in the NFL. We understand the Cowboys' defense is a dumpster fire. Oh, geez. Geez-a-lee. I could run up there. Yeah, easily.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Dumpster fire? Yeah, if you show this again. Look who's at tight end. Who's at a tight end? Skip. Big Skip, right? And then Laporta gets a little insert because you get an out block by the left tackle. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Out block, cut the defense, and then 18 thinks he's got a free hitter, and then you get the crack from Laporta. It's unbelievable. Just a bunch of dogs. I know. They're so good. Let's take a look at this second one. We got another zone play.
Starting point is 00:12:22 We're going to go zone right behind the two tight ends coming back. If you go back to the beginning here, let's just take a look at this second one. We got another zone play. We're going to go zone right behind the two tight ends coming back. If you go back to the beginning here, let's just take a look at this again. Eight different holes. It's unbelievable. And they're always eight to ten yards wide. So when we get this play again, we start to run this. You get everybody walling off. You get the tight ends going back, cutting the defense right there.
Starting point is 00:12:38 That's a ten-yard hole. It's ten yards to run through without being touched. It's unbelievable. Hey, that's a big-time game for the Detroit Lions, especially because of what was happening at center, right? I mean, at center, he's back. You're going to see a lot of him. I mean, the guy's got a torn pec, and he's still putting people on the ground.
Starting point is 00:12:54 You're going to see a lot of him today. Not just putting people on the ground. I mean, they're like the most devastating of the line. So everybody's like, they're playing games with us. They're putting these O-linemen out there. Dan Campbell's like, we got the greatest group in the league. We should throw them a bone every once in a line. Everybody's like, they're playing games with us. They're putting these O-linemen out there. Dan Campbell's like, we got the greatest group in the league. We should throw them a bone every once in a while. Let Penny get a little hook and ladder
Starting point is 00:13:10 every once in a while. We should do that. They're a phenomenal group. They're unbelievable. Let's look at this last one real quick. We send the fullback through on a little ISO on the mic. We arc, but check out the backside. This is what's key to this. If we go back, Foxy, real quick, the backside, you get a center wall off. The guard's going to wall off. This is
Starting point is 00:13:26 not typical. Now we slice the tackle so you cut the defense, and then you get everybody. That's 15 yards of space to run through. Cowboys stink! Man! No, it's a little bit of both. It's a little bit of both. They're dancing around blocks. Nobody's going downhill. I mean, it's disgusting. They must
Starting point is 00:13:42 hate Coach Zimmerman. Oh, yeah. Whoa. I'm the only stand-in. This guy.. Whoa. I'm the only fan of this guy. How bad do we got to play to get this guy out here? That's right. Older coaches these days. Jerry Jones, two-and-out radio show host. All right, I'll get new motherfuckers to ask me questions. You better shut up.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Same joke. Did you get the questions that I sent out? These aren't. I ain't dicking around. What are we doing here? Who do you think's more important? Shan and RJ? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Jerry fucking Joe. That's kind of how that went. What an interesting situation. I know. Tough. All of it. Then there was a follow-up, New York Times, The Athletic with Rossini, with him saying, I got a little frustrated.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And then everybody, we know. We know you did. But after him watching this on his birthday. Oh, my God. On his birthday. Tough. He's saying, you know, eight and a half inches. And then he's saying 15 yards.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yep. You tell me, hot dog hallway. That's what these running backs are. You know, that's literally what Jerry's saying on his birthday. And I hope they figure it out down there. They will. Yeah. They will.
Starting point is 00:14:38 No doubt about it. Shannon RJ, where you sitting? Pocket. Yeah. Well, our job kind of. That is our job you think I'm just coming on here
Starting point is 00:14:47 to tell you about every mistake I ever made you think I'm fucking doing that I don't think so you think I'm wasting my morning doing this I could be eating
Starting point is 00:14:53 Nick McMuffin yeah exactly that's right I invited him to the owners meeting who Jerry yeah
Starting point is 00:15:00 you guys so smart oh yeah he said if you got it all figured out why don't you and every five guys come into this meeting I'm walking into right now to try to figure out everything we got going on. Jerry is not thrilled.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And the way their defense is playing, I think, is very surprising. Since jump, right? Week one. Yeah. They were being called like. And the first thing with the defense is being able to stop the run. Even though it's a passing league, we saw the theme kind of turn with the league this year hey run game kicking field goals taking points at least
Starting point is 00:15:28 early in the season until these quarterbacks and passing game figure it out and every team that's come in it that's at home too it doesn't matter you know when you go on the road you got to travel with the defense but it's at home you're getting embarrassed i mean guys are pitching it back to linemen throwing the linemen up 40 like that i mean that's just that's that's gross if you're a defensive player and if you're the detroit up 40 like that. I mean, that's just gross if you're a defensive player. And if you're the Detroit Lions, you're the reason why it's all happening. That's right. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 What's the third talking point coming out of week six? Brock Purdy deserves more flowers. That's what we came up with for this one. Here's why. Here's why. We have said over and over again that he's a system quarterback. We have not said that. The whole world has said that.
Starting point is 00:16:03 The only reason is because he's in this system. My argument to that is it's a running back system argument because they put Garenda in, and he runs for 75 the second touch he gets. Every running back that runs in that system goes for 100-plus, period. And you're going to see it probably this week if Mason's out. But I got two throws from this past game. You're going to watch this touchdown throw to George Kittle. You want to tell me this is a system quarterback?
Starting point is 00:16:25 You have to be so accurate to throw this. No, look. This ball is the only place that one can be. If we pause that on the catch, it's right in front of the DB in a place only George Kittle can throw on an out route 30 yards to the sideline for a touchdown. Nasty. Great pause, Foxy.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Unbelievable. Right on the catch. Right on the catch. That's great. That's a great pause. Great pause. Foxy. Unbelievable. That's right on the catch. Right on the catch. That's great. That's a great pause. Great pause. Thank you. Foxy's got the precision to purdy of things. That's exactly right. Unbelievable. Now, when we take a look at this next one. The system isn't delivering that ball
Starting point is 00:16:53 on a dot. Nobody's delivering. I mean, there's five quarterbacks in the league that can make that throw. Okay, let's see the next one. Let's take a look at this next one. We want to talk about Matthew Stafford and Patrick Mahomes doing no-look passes. When we watch this play, take a look. All right, so let's let this run. As Juszczyk goes in motion, you'll notice the backer shift.
Starting point is 00:17:09 The minute that middle linebacker shifts past the hash, I talked to Colt McCoy. His read tells him work the right side of this receiver tree, right? So if you see the quarterback looking at the running back, he's looking. He's looking at the running back. He's freezing number two, the linebacker, and everybody thinks he's going to throw there. And as we throw this, no look down the middle between two defenders. Brock Purdy's making some throws. He's playing the best football of his career right now. Okay. Brock Purdy isn't just a system quarterback. Even though system quarterback is a good thing and not your fault, you're in the system that
Starting point is 00:17:40 you get drafted into, in this particular case, last overall drafted into, but the system doesn't say, hey, let's do no luckies. The system doesn't say, let's put in a keyhole. The system doesn't say, stand in there, extend the play, and then have a quicker 10-yard split than most of the guys on the offense. Brock Purdy's a dog, and he is so cheap for them right now. So they've been able to kind of maneuver and do it all. Congrats to brock congrats to that iners about to be real expensive and also he's very much so because he didn't make this one either that's right so it's not like a hometown discount situation no no no it's like hey i'm actually in debt from living in san francisco with the contract that i had yeah i think you guys were trying to have me do it's time so you know what the deal is yeah 300 mil
Starting point is 00:18:23 paid piper ne Need my flowers. The flowers are going to come in the form of very dead presidents with very big numbers next to them. And that's just how it's going to have to be. That third deal, though, that next one we get, let's go ahead and build a team. Sure. But we need to go ahead and do it. How will John Lynch handle that? I think he has done a great job thus far
Starting point is 00:18:41 in the Southern Cap Gymnastics. They are certainly going to have to do it for Purdy, and he's worth every single dollar. Speaking of being worth every single dollar, a lot of money was invested in college football by a lot of networks. Yes. Okay, these new TV deals are insane. Massive. Everybody understands that college football is the number two sport behind NFL football. But this year, if you look at the college
Starting point is 00:18:58 football rankings, hey. Moving. It is becoming football. It's starting to be the conversation. There's some storylines that we need to talk about coming out of week 7? 8. 8. Coming out of week 8 of college ball. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah, they start before the NFL. Right. So one week after, yep. So it's 7 maybe? So it just came out of week 7 going into week 8? We're going into week 8, yep. Yeah, we're going into week 8. Correct.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I should know that, you know. But I. Week 0 as well well it's a tough start yeah i don't love the week zero thing but i guess there is like a bunch of around it with scheduling and everything which which weeks and so a lot of people myself included ago this is week one right obviously this is week one well no it's a bonus week actually because week one there's already like contracts on who plays so this is like a bonus we're able to get so it's week zero okay well zero sounds like a loser group and instead this is awesome we're in dublin there's a massive comeback georgia tech beats florida state which kind of starts an entire season
Starting point is 00:20:00 for florida state the georgia tech story goes But college football has been bananas. Let's go over to Hammer. With Tone Diggs with some storylines coming out of week seven heading into week eight. Thank you, Pat. Oh, nailed it, Tone. Thank you. I appreciate that. I thought so. You know, I thought I did okay. You did.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah, let's talk about those headlines going into week eight. And we gotta go back before we go forward. You talk about money headlines going into week eight. And we've got to go back before we go forward. You talk about money well spent by the networks. Primetime games absolutely lived up to the hype last weekend. Every single primetime game that was watched, you know, like focused on, probably was absolute bananas. Talk about Oregon taking on Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:20:39 New Big Ten, new rivalries. Oregon hits a leading field goal with under two minutes left. Then there was a lot of crap, scrap. There was a leading field goal with under two minutes left. Then there was a lot of crap, scrop. There was a 12-man on the field penalty, potentially on purpose, that led to this, a clock run out with Will with the Rock in Oregon, getting a massive win and remaining undefeated. Then let's go to afternoon game.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Penn State, USC, new Big Ten rivalry potentially. Give me that! Give me that! Penn State has a massive comeback. Ends up putting one through in overtime to win that particular game as Penn State remains unscathed, even though the ones in Hollywood almost got them early. Why didn't Penn State
Starting point is 00:21:16 choose to run the damn ball early, A.Q. Shipley? I don't know. I was very vocal about that. Anyway, South Carolina has to get a touchdown to come back in this. They missed a two-point conversion. Kick an onside kick. Well done.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Beamer ball to a tee. Get the rock back. 12 seconds left. Down two. Is Alabama about to get beat again? Now, interception. That thing ends in thrilling fashion. Don't want to get a safety.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Where did I catch it? Did I drift back into the end zone? Imagine taking a knee there, taking a safety, and it being 27-27. Nuts. People would be calling for Kalen DeBoer's head immediately after the last of any let's go to tennessee florida this one ends in overtime with some tough football from the tennessee volunteers that's kind of their storyline and then old miss lsu almost thought they had it old mrs jackson dart actually in a press conference afterwards said i don't know how we lost that game. I have no idea how we lost.
Starting point is 00:22:09 LSU at night, brother. That's going to be incredibly difficult regardless. Brian Kelly gets a huge win at night in the SEC to knock off Ole Miss, who now has two losses, even though early we thought they were potentially going to be one of the teams that can maybe remain unscathed in the SEC. And then the other night game that we didn't even talk about here, Kansas State-Colorado, that comes down to the final second.
Starting point is 00:22:29 College ball is awesome. Wild weekend ahead here, too, as Austin, Texas is the focal point with Georgia taking on Texas. New SEC rivalry, potentially. What else do we need to be talking about, Tone? Yeah, talking about that, obviously the primetime games lived up to the hype last weekend. We've got a couple big primetime games this weekend, starting with Georgia at Texas,
Starting point is 00:22:49 the location of College Game Day on Saturday morning. Texas is a three-and-a-half point favorite over Georgia at home. I think it's the first time Georgia has been a dog in 50 games. Damn. Yeah, I saw that stat floating around around and what's going on down in Georgia fascinating. It's very, very interesting because they have an incredibly talented team. Off the field, a lot of conversation.
Starting point is 00:23:12 A lot of conversation off the field. Like a lot. A lot about what the hell's going on. Then Kirby gets all jacked up on the sideline last week. Obviously that becomes a massive talking point. They lose that game to Alabama. They haven't really played up to what everybody thought they were going to be all season. And then they get to take on Texas.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Good opportunity. And this seems like one where the damn good dogs could potentially, you know, say who's SEC is it. I forgot about this whole thing. Have you guys won a couple of national championships within the last handful of years? Back-to-back, perhaps. Oh, you guys are always that team that...
Starting point is 00:23:48 Oh, you guys are coming to the SEC? Whoa, whoa, great. Texas is here. Okay. Okay. We're the dogs. We run this shit. And Kirby, imagine what Kirby's going to say.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Oh, man. Look around in Austin. They say this is SEC football. That hole. I mean, there's a lot. Get a mic on that. And then Quinn Ewers is back, obviously, in the way he's playing. That team, defensive line, offensive line, big.
Starting point is 00:24:11 They are. They're built like an SEC team. I mean, it is. This game is going to be awesome. They do bring the boom. Bringing the boom. That's what they do. They bring the boom.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They bring the boom to you. You saw Quinn's dance you saw i'm just learning about the costco dad sons sure i'm just learning about him i like that he's an independent wrestler oh yeah getting back in the ring i love the gimmick i love everything i love how close he and his son are yeah like that seemingly is a great thing. I hope it's like that. In real life? Yeah, off camera. When the cameras are on. Yeah, because that could be tough.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I think it is. I think it is, too. I think they both enjoy bringing the boom to you. I think we need to be a little bit more, you know, he can't be taking his son to Costco six days a week and just shoving his gullet full of chicken bakes and double chocolate cookies. But, you know, I'm not his dad, so he can feed him what he wants, I guess. They're allowed to bring the boom. They're active, too.
Starting point is 00:25:10 They're active. They work out together. I agree. Yeah. I like that. I enjoy just learning about them. Just learning about them. That is not something that would ever creep into my algorithm.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And for that, you know, my algorithm, I'll say you missed. I think the Costco dad and Costco kid should have been shown to me much earlier. Because I'm learning a lot about them quickly through your guys' experience with the Costco team. And they've been everywhere. Oh, yeah. Everywhere. The real MVP is the other one. Who?
Starting point is 00:25:39 The Rizzler. I don't know if you know him, but he is a star. See, he's a part of the Costco team. Kind of. He's part of the greater Costco universe, if you will. Okay, does he bring the boom? Yeah, he does, but he's more... He can do it all, brother.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He's the Rizzler. He's the king. Some people are saying the Costco boys are kind of sucking everything they can out of the Rizzler. Rizzler is the king. That's the Rizzler. That is the Rizzler, yeah. Ooh. Look at that. Weapon. That's the Rizzler. That's the Rizzler, yeah. Look at that. I'm actually...
Starting point is 00:26:08 The Rizzler is the one, dude. He's the one. I didn't know enough about the Rizzler. Why isn't anybody showing that? We don't need to see him missing shots. Rizzler don't care. He's Black Panther. He's got too much Rizz.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Why are they showing these shots? Why are they letting him shoot? He should have been up on somebody's really strong person's shoulders. And he should have been up there dunking. Rizzler should have been hanging from that. Nonetheless, I'm just learning about the Costco teams. The Costco universe.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And I'm happy they bring the boo. They bring the boom. I guess Wayne Ewers does it too, right? Oh, yeah. That's what I heard. Oh, yeah. That might be the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You know, a lot of things happen in Austin, Texas. Yep. If they bring the boom with the Riz, that could be a bad sign for them dogs. Imagine if Kirby Smart knew that the Costco universe was coming to town before his pregame speech. Hey, bad news. Imagine Kirby. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I heard there's this. He might fold. No gameplay for that. Yeah, he might fold. What? No gameplay for that. You're saying Kirby's not ready for the Rizzler and the boys? If the Rizzler's there, no.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I am done with it. Nothing's ready for the Rizzler. The Rizzler can actually cure anything that you want. Say something right now. Cancer. Boom. He cured it. That's the Rizzler's job.
Starting point is 00:27:28 We're hoping. COVID. Boom. The Rizzler. I saw somebody. I saw people. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Saw somebody what? Nah, I'm not doing it. They're allowed to do whatever they want. I would like to know the information that they have that I don't, though, because I'm walking around without a mask, and then I see them with one. It's like, well, you know. I don't know. I would like to know that information. Then I got to talk to them, and they say, don't get too close. I can't fucking them with one. It's like, well, you know. I don't know. I would like to know that information.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Then I got to talk to them, and they say, don't get too close. I can't fucking talk to them. It's a tough situation. I'd like to go shake their hands and know what the hell they know. Sure. Nonetheless, the Riz. Yeah. Curate, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:55 The Rizler's the one. He can't shoot a basketball, though. That's what I just saw. I mean, he's nine years old. He's like 3'8", though. Yeah. He's only nine. Why'd they call him on a 10-foot hoop?
Starting point is 00:28:04 You should see him on a BMX bike. That guy does all kinds of tricks. He's a different kind of athlete. Oh, they got pegs on the front and the back? Oh, yeah. He could be in X Games at any moment if he wants, if he chooses to. He's the Tony Hawk of biking. There was like an 8-year-old, I think, doing like a 600 or something, a 900 or something.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Oh, I saw that, yeah. Tony Hawk did that on TV. The world stopped. Oh, shit, Tony Hawk did a 900. 8-year-old kid doing back-to-back 900s or something like that. X Games is getting real X. Almost XX Games at this point.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah, not XXX though yet. Okay. There's not an N in there. X. It's a website. Never heard of it. Oh, is that right, AQ? That is not true. Okay've never heard of it. Oh, is that right, AQ? That is not true. Okay, so now I know.
Starting point is 00:28:48 All right, let's go back to the college ball convos. Let's talk about Bama. We know you heard it. If I'm piecing together these context clues right now, you might have created it. You know about it. Let's get back to it. Congrats to Penn State.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah. Congrats. Penn State, yeah. Big win. Big win. Let's go back to some congrats to Penn State. Yeah. Congrats. Penn State, yeah. Big win. Big win. Let's go back to some college ball convos. Tony, please. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Let's talk about Bama and Tennessee. It's an interesting one where two teams are coming in in similar situations where Bama lost to Vandy two weeks ago, so that put them behind the eight ball. And Tennessee lost to Arkansas two weeks ago in that same crazy week. And then they both had very, very close wins this last weekend. So, you know know are these teams the teams we thought they would be they both have one loss Tennessee's still got to play Georgia Bama's still got to play LSU this is I don't know if it's a must win for each team but it's it's a
Starting point is 00:29:34 must win for each team hey Sampson's a dog there the running back for Tennessee everybody ever talks about Nico Iomaliava which you should he can spin But high boys, they're not scared to go. And that Tennessee defense throws. Legit. Hey, they are the real deal. And then Alabama, you know, are they who we all thought they were? Or are they going to take a little bit to figure out who they are in this new time? I mean, that is a real question that's being asked.
Starting point is 00:30:03 We believe in Kalen DeBoer. Oh, yeah. I believe in Jalen Mil asked. We believe in Kalen DeBoer. I believe in Jalen Milrow. I believe in the amount of talent that they have on that team. I believe in everything they've got cooking. This is a very tough game, and this is what happens in the SEC. You've got another one, and then another one, and then another one. If you let Vandy be one of the
Starting point is 00:30:19 ones, and Vandy's like a new... This is not the same old Vandy. This is brand new Vandy. It's like every week you can find out. We're going to find out about Alabama, I think. That's a big question mark going forward for everybody, Tone. Yeah, it's a huge one. And now the loser of this will have two losses and then they've got to play the rest of their SEC schedule.
Starting point is 00:30:37 We don't know if a three-loss SEC team can get in, especially when you have Georgia, Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, like all those other teams, those could be two or three lost teams in the SEC, too. So it's a big one this weekend. And the Big Ten is showing up. So the Big Ten is, you think about LSU, USC, and then
Starting point is 00:30:56 what USC has done. If you start talking about that whole thing, you start doing the ipso facto meter all around there. That's why these end conversations about the 12 teams, 5-12. Whoa. Well, 5-11, I guess, because there's going to be one group of five. Maybe two, though.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Okay. Why not? You never know. It's the first time ever. Anything else we need to keep on top of mind, Tone Dukes? Yeah, it's never too early. I mean, just because it's the first year and it's absolutely awesome to look at. Can we just throw up the playoff picture if the season ended now?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Because I'm just having wet dreams about this. Speaking of XNXXX. What? You heard me. You heard me. I don't think I. I mean, look at this. This is just, this is better than any website AQ's ever been to.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Okay. Glorious. All right. AQ might have actually coded those websites. But, yes, the excitement is very, very, very real about what the 12-team playoff could look like. And this college football season is delivered every single week. Speaking of delivering every single week, ladies and gentlemen, there are teams that are undefeated that I don't think going into the season anybody would say, you know what? That team is going to run wild. How about this Army team?
Starting point is 00:32:08 Have you read the stats about them? Ridiculous. First since, first since, first since, first since, first since. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Army football team, Coach Monkey. Yeah, Coach! How are you, Coach? Oh, no. He's very frozen.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I'll tell you what. Don't want to do anything bad to that guy. No. Did you see how long? Oh, yeah. Laser focus. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Monk. Yeah, Coach!
Starting point is 00:32:39 Coach, how are you? Thanks for the intro. Coach, I want to tell you this. You looked phenomenal. You were frozen, but they had you. Thanks for the intro. Coach, I want to tell you this. You looked phenomenal. You were frozen, but they had you. Your eyes were open. You looked, like, incredibly diligent and focused. Wildly handsome.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I mean, it was a good start. We appreciate you figuring it out, dodge, duck, dip, diving, and dodging through the technology. I asked Hembo, who's a stats guy here at ESPN, to, you know, round up some stats about your team. And all of it is like first time since, first time since, fewest amount of this for your defensive side. Why is this year's team different, you feel like, Coach, over there at Army? Oh, we got a bunch of tough guys that are playing really hard and executing pretty well.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I can't say enough for the leadership in our locker room. I do think that our senior class and our captains are making a big difference. And I think that gets overplayed sometimes, that leadership in the locker room is important. But, I mean, I'm just so impressed with this senior class and how they've stayed grounded and focused. And it's been like that since January. So they're doing a really good job. And fortunately, we've played pretty good. Yeah, I'd say played pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I mean, all the stats right there would indicate that you're having a monumental year over there at Army. And you talk about the seniors. And Army's a different situation than most schools, just like any of the service academy schools, because of the commitment as opposed to just football. This modern NIL stuff, you just complimented your seniors, your team building. Has the modern world changed for you guys, football at all, at the service academy schools?
Starting point is 00:34:18 Or is it still status quo? It's pretty much business as usual here. Just all the other stuff that is happening with NIL and Transfer Portal, that has a trickle-down effect on everybody. But our guys have always been eligible to go into the Transfer Portal. We just haven't been able to ever take anybody out of the Transfer Portal. So that hasn't changed. We don't pay what everybody else considers NIL. Our students here all are on scholarship and do receive a stipend every month, but it's not anything like you see on TV with the guys getting the deals with stores and brands and those kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:35:04 But our guys aren't here for that. Millions. I think they're here to just be a part of this program, play big-time football and get a world-class degree and then have an opportunity and be in position to go and serve our nation as army officers and and really that's where their their their experience here leads them to is is is the focus on on doing that yeah you're going to be a special person obviously to sign that line to go to army or to you know serve our country and i think that that trait is obviously one that we hope is will continue forever yeah yeah yeah we will we will
Starting point is 00:35:42 it will happen forever there's There's probably a lot. I'm not going to judge anybody. I assume it's a less pull now, especially with the NIL stuff for guys that want to sign up for the military. But to all that do, we appreciate the hell out of them, especially your boys. Now, I know the payment thing because it's like a job, but that means you have a lot of requirements to the Army while you're at school. Is that still something because i remember from calling a couple games like the the amount of time allotted for practice is much less than maybe everywhere else or meetings everywhere else which is why the playbook is probably much smaller the certain type of player that you get in there is different is that still the case in 2024 or how have we been able to expand a little bit here well number one you'd be glad to know that there are still a lot of young men and women
Starting point is 00:36:27 in this nation that uh are willing to to to make this commitment hell yeah usa usa usa usa hell yeah coach love to hear that obviously love to hear that every generation every generation has that that group of people that um that have a spirit to serve. And so all of our young men and women here, our Corps of Cadets, our players, they have that spirit to serve. And they enjoy being part of a team and being part of something much bigger than themselves. And I think that contributes to our ability to succeed here, even with guys, as you mentioned, that may not be four or five star prospects, any stars at all. They're developmental guys, oftentimes smaller.
Starting point is 00:37:17 If we had a track meet against the teams we play, we might not win the track meet. But our guys play together. They care about each other. And they're very committed to playing for this team. And so, you know, we've got a great administration here. I've been very fortunate. When I took the job here 11 years ago, there was a commitment by our institution to get this program turned. And so we do get a lot more time than maybe I think the lore out there would suggest. We still get our meeting time. We get an opportunity to lift
Starting point is 00:37:55 with our guys and train them and practice. And we do all of our practices in the afternoon. That just fits the schedule at the academy a lot better but uh but we're able to get our time with the guys and and uh and i think that that allows us to remain competitive every morning there hey up hey up right and that that is an every morning thing isn't it yeah we're talking like full commitment to army yeah oh yeah every morning there is a revelry in the morning and uh they wake up they've got a wake-up call they've got a morning formation uh there's a cannon that goes off in the mornings at 6 a.m and that's kind of the official start of the day
Starting point is 00:38:35 and our guys are up our entire campus is up and moving uh before that and uh and so they've got a pretty action-packed day with classes and and uh and their their their requirements from a company standpoint the the the military requirements and then with their with their practices and meetings and all those things evening study periods so it's a packed day but they handle it they they all do a good job of of uh taking care of their business yeah makes sense while your team's coming together i mean it takes a special person to be able to handle all that i would not be able to no way i mean i didn't attend class just because i i would like to nap you know and that is that is why i'm very thankful that there are people that obviously are playing for your team that can handle it all connor has
Starting point is 00:39:17 a question for you coach yeah coach with how the season's going and you look across you know to your rival with navy and how their season's going, obviously you guys are in the same conference now. Has the thought crossed your mind yet that, hey, we might be playing Navy in the conference championship, and then, of course, for the Army-Navy game the next week, that you guys might be playing back-to-back games? Do they still have a football program? Oh!
Starting point is 00:39:42 Love it. Undefeated. Yeah yeah pretty good awesome pretty good well we're gonna worry about this uh this game this weekend it's the only one we can do anything about and east carolina's got a good football team well coached team and i assure you that that's the only game we're considering ourselves with right now i respect that answer so much it's back there though oh yeah yeah coach no no, yeah, we understand. We understand. Let's go to Hammer.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Don, Don. Tony Diggs has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, anytime Army, Navy, Air Force has this incredible offense that it feels like it's a machine, it always starts with the quarterback. And you guys have Bryson Daly, who's a senior, who has 20 touchdowns through six games, which is insane. I think he's averaged like three rushing touchdowns a game. Can you just talk about him a little bit and his senior leadership starting at the quarterback position?
Starting point is 00:40:33 One, he is a tremendous leader. He's done a really good job with our team, even through last year. When you're the starting quarterback of a college football team, there is an expectation that you provide leadership, not just for the offensive unit, but I think for the entire team. And he's become the face of the program. His performance certainly has helped us win a lot of football games this year. But the things that he does, aside from what everybody sees, just his practice habits, but he sees just his practice habits, his work ethic in the weight room. If you sit in a meeting with Bryson Daly and our offense coordinator with the quarterbacks meetings, he's very engaged and asks great questions
Starting point is 00:41:18 and recognizes and sees things that need to be discussed. He's just a terrific kid. He's a coach's kid, so he's a great competitor. He's been around football his whole life. He's playing the best football he's ever played right now. I'm glad he's on our team. I'm really proud of him and happy that he's able to contribute to our success. Coach, is he one of the guys?
Starting point is 00:41:40 How many presidents do you think you have on your roster right now, future presidents? How many future presidents do you think? presidents well i'm around them every day so i sometimes i wonder how they get through classes every day but we got several guys that that uh i'm sure would have a great political career if they chose to do that uh i don't know if any of them will, but there's plenty of guys that probably would do a great job. An undefeated season at Army would certainly help in it all.
Starting point is 00:42:12 We can't thank you enough for joining us. Good luck the rest of the way, Coach. It's my pleasure, guys. Go have a great day. Beat Navy. Hell yeah. Coach Munker. That was fantastic. They still got a team? Yeah, they're is. Thinking about it. Coach Malkin. Go on. Yeah, coach. Oh, that was fantastic. Yeah, legend.
Starting point is 00:42:26 They still got a team. Yeah, they're playing great as well. Yeah, they're very good. Also, it is pretty wild to think that they, in this modern era, new world, 12-team playoff. Yeah. It's like NIL. Now, granted, they have always, you know, paid because it's like a job. You're signing up for a job.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Right. So, I think it was the Air Force. Maybe it was the Navy. I forget who it was. I wasn't highly recruited out of high school the air force or navy came and they were like we would like you to be the kicker for our team or whatever and then they said like this is how it works it's the amount of money you get paid and as soon as i heard that i'm like i'm getting paid hold on i'm going to this whoa so i go home i go to sally and tim i go these people are going to pay me and i'm going to kick for him and my home. I go to Sally and Tim. I go, these people are going to pay me.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And I'm going to kick for them. And my mom and dad are like, you think you're supposed to be going? Sure. How do you think that's going to go? Like, let's actually think about it. And then I think Tim started laying out, here's every day for these guys. If you're going to do it. You think, I think it was like $500 or $600.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But I forget what the payment was each month. You say, you think that's going to make it really? And I was like, all right, we'll keep our options open. We will keep our options open because the commitment is massive. It is massive. And the classes are very real. Very, very real. It's like the fact that they're able to win and be able to accomplish everything is a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:43:41 That's why it's a beautiful story. And it's always a challenge when you're playing against those teams. It's always something different. It's no wonder they lead the nation in rushing. Haven't trailed even yet this season. 6-0 going into this one against East Carolina. But, yeah, anytime you play Army, Navy, I never played against Air Force. Smaller guys, always going to be in the right place,
Starting point is 00:44:00 never going to get tired. And as soon as you miss a gap, as you're not gaps down boom it's a quarterback it's a fullback it's whoever in this wing t triple option it's a tough tough tough team to play you talk about never trailing for a second joining us now is a man who is also undefeated at a school that we used to be known for its basketball now it's quickly become oh this is a football basketball school ladies and gentlemen you can Google him. The only thing that's going to pop up is a very Italian name and then his record. And guess what it does? It says that this motherfucker wins. Head coach of the Indiana Hoosier football team, Kurt Cignetti. Coach, how are you? What's up? How you doing? Hey, listen, last week was chaotic.
Starting point is 00:44:46 You were supposed to come to the Thunderdome 100% on us. Coach got fired. Conversation got moved. Everything went crazy. Thank you for kind of, you know, dealing with adversity with us and for making an appearance on the program because we would like to say since the moment we met you at JMU to what's happening down there just an hour and a half south of here,
Starting point is 00:45:06 congratulations, brother. Love you, coach. Congratulations, coach. No, no, no, no, no. We're only halfway through the race, bro. No, no, no, no, no. Congratulations right now. You've done great things.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I get it. Hey, it's a pleasure to be on your show. Anything for you. Guy from Holiday Park, Do anything for you. I love that. Pittsburgh guy, West Virginia guy, football guy. Obviously, you get the head coaching gig here at Indiana after the run that you go on at JMU.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Obviously, JMU led to one of the greatest game days and greatest shows that we've ever had, and you blessed us with your time. When you get the head coaching job at Indiana, now I know we're only halfway through the race, but people in Indiana have no hope for Indiana football. They haven't. Like, it's a basketball school.
Starting point is 00:45:51 How do you come in here this quickly and kind of change mindsets, change cultures? What do you think it is about your programs that you're able to win so quickly? Well, you know, you've got to have a blueprint and a plan, and you've got to work it every day, and it's a process. And I've been blessed. You know, I grew up around the game. My dad was a coach, Hall of Fame coach, and worked for a lot of great coaches, learned from a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And, you know, you've got to work your plan every day. It's about setting expectations, standards, accountability, you know, having a process, a blueprint. But, you know, in our particular situation, we walk in there and we've got 10 offensive starters and transfer portal, half our defense. Now, they didn't tell me that in the interview, okay? And, you know, I made some comments out there publicly that I usually don't do when I take a job. But when I got here, like, I just detected this gloom around the program, this hopelessness. So, you know, that night, the first night I'm here at the basketball game, you know, I said what I said. I had to get a reaction from the crowd, 17,000 strong.
Starting point is 00:46:54 But I also had to set expectations, you know, and what we were going to be about and get people excited. So, I mean, we recruited 22 transfers in December in three weeks. A lot of guys that were two- and three-year starters at the places they'd been in the past, high-character guys that could play football, three seasons of productivity, good durability. And I felt like on the signing day, we'd flipped the roster. You know, we needed a lot of new faces here. And then I got asked for the 15th time, like like how am i possibly going to get this done and you
Starting point is 00:47:26 know i was tired and that's when i put my head down and finally just said look google me okay i win it's one of the greatest it's one of the greatest lines in the history and then you go on to do that and you talk about the gloom around the thing you need to know with everything you said and how you handled it coming to indiana these people needed it and these people loved it. I mean, Indiana people, pretty similar to Pittsburgh people, pretty similar to West Virginia people too, hardworking people. They love ball here. Now, it was a basketball state, obviously.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Indiana University basketball at night and then basketball with the Pacers. It was a racing city. But then when Peyton gets out here and they really fall in love with the game, this is a football state. And all the Hoosiers fans were just waiting for a reason almost to be a football fan. Have you felt that? And they are very appreciative of you. I married into a Hoosier family. And boy, they absolutely love the fact that a football team is worth talking about as opposed to just being good, like just talking about. And you brought a lot of hope to a lot of people out here, brother. Well, our fan base, without a doubt, is way over the top, can't contain themselves right now.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You know, and we're selling out the stadium now and they're making T-shirts and towels and all kinds of stuff. And it's been pretty, you know, it's been fun. I really couldn't understand why people thought it was so hopeless. I think any P4 program with the proper commitment from the top can be successful. Hire the right guy with the blueprint, plan the right people, players and coaches. And I felt like it would be pretty good, but we had to put it on the field. And I was kind of surprised.
Starting point is 00:49:06 First game of the year, we go out and play FIU. We got about a three-score lead at halftime, right? Come out second half, and, like, half the people had left. I was like, what's this? You know, and I brought it up in my press conference. But every week after that, the stadium, you know, more capacity, more fans, staying until the end. I mean, I really appreciate the support we're getting.
Starting point is 00:49:26 We'll have a great crowd on Saturday. Yeah, the text message you sent to everybody is a hilarious move, an aggressive move, but then to back it up and win the game. It's like everything you've said you're going to do, you do. And I think in Indiana, Hoosier people, they're like, this Italian has not lied to us yet. We should at least go support this guy, and they will. Let's talk about continuing to build out here in Bloomington.
Starting point is 00:49:50 D-Bud, I got a question for you. Yeah, absolutely building a monster, but you mentioned it. You've been around coaching football your whole life. It's kind of a new generation. I was recruited by kind of a hard-nosed, no-nonsense coach trying to build a football program at a basketball school, Randy Esso at UConn at the time. How has it been recruiting this new generation and kind of re-recruiting your own guys with the transfer report and everything that's going on?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Yeah, well, you know, the influx of transfers really helped us. We brought a core group of JMU guys with us that had come from a championship program, knew how the program was run. They facilitated the culture change. The other transfers, too, had been from teams that had been in bowl games. The guys that stayed had chips on their shoulders, something to prove. So I saw the culture change in January. And I'm a little bit old school in my approach. But good players want to be coached, and they want to be held to high standards. And that's what we have here, a lot of guys that really want to be good.
Starting point is 00:50:48 From a recruiting standpoint, obviously, the more you win, the more doors that are going to be open to you. The one thing about the portal is, you know, like we're a veteran team when you look at us. I mean, I'm going to have to do this again next year. But you still want to sign 15 to 20 guys a year and create the foundation of the house. So nobody in this program right now is satisfied. There's no warm fuzzies.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Everybody understands they've got to respect the process because, you know, they're all a hero right now. But you don't respect the process and prepare the way you've got to prepare to be the best you can be on Saturday. You'll be a bum next week. What happens Saturday is going to be next week's news. They understand that and they get it. They're patting you on the back to soften it a little bit so they can stab you. You said you're old school and once again
Starting point is 00:51:38 perfect fit for IU because a lot of these Hoosier fans, obviously Bobby Knight kind of taught them how sports are and that's what they fell in love with. I think a lot of Hoosier fans appreciate and can sense how kind of taught them how sports are, and that's what they fell in love with. So I think a lot of Hoosier fans appreciate and can sense how old school you are. Now let's talk a little bit about how you operate. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, with that old school mentality, what are your practices like?
Starting point is 00:51:59 I assume you guys get after it pretty hard at least a couple days a week, but what is kind of the weekly schedule when it comes to preparation for your games? Yeah, well, you know, one thing about me is I'm kind of a time management efficiency kind of guy. Like I'll come in the office two hours before the coaches to plan the day and organize it so we're efficient. I'm a short practice guy. But we'll get done in an hour and 40 minutes. Well, most people get done in 215. I mean, when we're on that field, it's constant motion, a lot of reps. But I believe in keeping them fresh, you know, physically and mentally, you know, for Saturday.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I mean, nowadays with MRIs, x-rays, they find everything. So you've got to keep them healthy. And, you know, we've got some areas we're not real. We don't have a lot of depth, let's face it. So, you know, we can't afford an injury in a place or two. But I like to get on and off the practice field and it's worth same way in the office we come in we get our work done i don't make them stay till 10 at night when your work's done leave you know i mean i'm in 4 30 and
Starting point is 00:52:55 more i don't ask them to be uh so i've got coaches on my staff been with me nine ten years my two coordinators i hired them for six thousand dollars at the d2 level now they're big ten coordinators you know and they'll be in high demand uh but i've got a lot of people been with me a long time but the players like the way we run the program uh because i think people don't like when you waste their time like you know keep a guy in a meeting for two hours when you get it done in an hour and 15 minutes be on the field two and a half hours when you get it done in an hour 35. so. Be on the field two and a half hours when you get it done in an hour and 35. But by the same token now, we're going to hold you accountable. There's no BS.
Starting point is 00:53:32 You buy in or you buy out. You know what I mean? But like I said before, good players want to be coached, and they want you to develop them to be the best they can be. Everything you said there, every player on this stage was like, hell yeah, that is exactly what you want to hear. Obviously, you're going to be hardworking during that time, but we don't need the waffle.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We don't need to waste anybody's time here. We don't need to be desk watching this entire thing. Now, speaking of that, there is a couple added little adversities maybe that I don't know if you've had to deal with. How old are you, coach? I am 63 going on 42. Nice. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Well, I'm not 42 yet, so that sounds like 42 is a good age. I still got a lot to look forward to because you're crushing it. AQ has a question for you about this new Big Ten world. Yeah, coach, the Big Ten obviously expanded west, and I'm just wondering, like, how does that affect your travel schedule? Are you guys able to go out on Thursdays, and do you think it's as big deal i think you guys were the only win up until this past weekend out west do you think it's as big of a deal as they've been making out oh that's a good question so i got a certain way i do things right and i've learned from a lot of
Starting point is 00:54:37 people but like i like to have our friday walk through here and our meetings here uh so the guys don't miss class in the morning and i like to get to the hotel as late as possible i don't like spending a lot of time in a hotel and we'll get there feed them maybe have a quick meeting in the evening and get up and play so you know my weight guy and my director of football ops they've got all these designs you know like go out thursday this way you gotta do well i mean we played out at Weber State, Utah State, some of those other places before. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:08 No, no, no, no. We ain't doing that, guys. We're going to get there as late as possible. Okay, we're going to wake up, and we're going to play the game, and we're going to come back. That's what we do. We got to the hotel about 8 o'clock at night, right? Ate our meal, went to bed, woke up, played 3.30,
Starting point is 00:55:22 kicked their ass, and came home. Coach, you're the best, man. I am so thankful you stopped by. You know, obviously, game day has eyes on Bloomington. And if that was the case, we'd be so incredibly lucky to get a chance to experience Bloomington with you at the helm of a football team that is a true, true, true dog in this 12-team playoff hunt
Starting point is 00:55:50 in the Big Ten. We appreciate you, Coach. Thanks, man. We got a lot of work to do. Yeah, don't fuck it up, Coach. Saturday, yeah, and get you people down here. Yeah, please. I'm tired. I got to fly to Eugene. I got to fly to Berkeley. Let's not fuck this up. Let's tell the boys. Bloomington's an hour down south. Yeah, please. I got to fly to Eugene. I got to fly to Berkeley. Let's not fuck this up.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Let's tell the boys. Bloomington's an hour down south. Let's win. We need to win. I hear you, bro. I know you're tired of traveling. I got to get you out of my house, too. You got to see this house I got. Hey, money goes a long way in Indiana. Yeah, we got to have three great
Starting point is 00:56:22 days so we can get her done on Saturday and get you guys down here. All right. I appreciate that, Coach. I can't wait to see you. I would love to see the house, too. Head coach at IU. On that lake.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, are you on the lake? No, I got a pool, a hot tub, a tennis court, a basketball court. Okay. I got it all for you. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach at Indiana, Kurt Cernetti. Thank you, Coach.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Head coach. He's the greatest, dude Cernetti. Thank you, coach. Head coach. He's the greatest, dude. The man. He's the greatest. And their team's a real deal. They put teams away. Oh, yeah. They will go away.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Indiana fans are like, what is this? Normally, it's coming the other way. They're like, nah, foot on throat. Your teen requested a ride, but this time, not from you. It's through their Uber Teen account. It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to your Uber account today.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Light up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile and get 50 gigs to use in Canadaada the u.s and mexico for just 35 bucks a month for 18 months plus get a one-time gift of five gigs of rome beyond data conditions apply details at freedom mobile.ca football is awesome football is amazing we just got done talking to coach munkin of army and coach sig signetti of indiana and uh obviously coach munkin's been on the program before it's great to catch up with him the army boys are undefeated phenomenal work over there sig signetti is bringing something to indiana football that i don't think these indiana people even knew was possible no the way he goes about operating he is perfect for that gig you know
Starting point is 00:58:04 he's old school i'm old school yeah our guys we didn't want shit yet defeated do the entire thing invites me to his house down there we're obviously gonna have to make that happen but that chat with him i think has a lot of schools who are potentially in a bad spot wondering themselves well how come we didn't hire this guy okay he was at jmu before he was at like iup he was at alU. Before that, he was at IUP. He was at Alabama at one point alongside Saban as an assistant coach. He's been up for these jobs. But because he's 63 years old or whatever, a lot of these schools didn't want to hire him. And he said, what are we talking about? I'm a coach to him, 100 years old.
Starting point is 00:58:35 My dad, football coach, literally his entire life. My age don't mean nothing. I've been having a good time. And Indiana's like, we'll hire Cignetti. And then Cignetti comes in, the culture flips the roster flips the team which is possible with this new era you know a lot of people talk coming into the season about how NIL and transfer portal are gonna ruin college football and it's like there have been some things I think that have been lessened
Starting point is 00:58:57 but if you start talking about all the things that have been gained from that like Vandy becoming a team that can dance in South Nashville. And Coach Jerry bringing in Diego Pavia being able to do it. It's like that doesn't happen without NIL, Transfer Portal, in the modern world right there. Indiana, what they've been able to do here in Bloomington, reignite a football fan base that they didn't even know they had. You don't think that school in Indiana and the state is better when their football team's rolling? Well, the reason why it is because of the Transfer Portal. He started an NIL collective for the football team whenever he got here. You're talking about transforming a situation because of the modern rules.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You know, there's a lot of good coming as well. New rivalries happening, close games, electrifying matchups in the middle of October and going into November that we never thought we could have had. Georgia's playing Texas this weekend. I mean, it is awesome to be alive. We're lucky to talk about all of it. The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Con, man, I know there was a time you were trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:59:52 what college team was going to be your team. You were wearing a West Virginia hat a lot. Yeah, I was. Yesterday, in fact. Okay, so West Virginia is your college team that you're pulling for this year? Absolutely not. I mean, of course, I support the troops always, Army and Navy. Those are two of my squads. They still play football and Navy is what Coach Wonka
Starting point is 01:00:09 said. Yeah, yeah, not too shabby. I think I'm going to ride or die with Sig for the rest of my life. I don't care where he goes. It's going to be hard not to root. You picked App State right in Sig's face last year. And on game day, I also told Sig, hey, I apologize the next day, but in that little run there, I said, Sig, hey, I apologize the next day.
Starting point is 01:00:25 But in that little run there, I said, Sig's leaving this dump. And what did he do? He left. And granted, calling it a dump is a little bit of a stretch. You're in the moment. It's like when I said stupid Oregon State. I didn't mean stupid Oregon State. I was just in the moment.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Just like Sig said. Sig said, I'm in front of 17,000 people. Obviously, I need to make them change their expectations. So he cuts a promo in the middle of a basketball game and basically says, who do we hate? Purdue! And then who else? And Ohio State!
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. And everybody in there is like, are you a football coach? Just calling out Ohio State? Interesting. Okay. We'll see how this works, bud. And then all of a sudden. He backs it up.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Yes, he does. And they're filling it up. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. He said a lot of things that scratched me where I itched if I was to sign up to play for that particular team. But he is an accountability guy. I love that. Yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And you mentioned it. You know, good players want to be coached. And they want to play against good competition. You know, he's in the Big Ten. So you're going to play against big schools. You're going to play against NFL talent. And if you're winning, you'll continue to get recruits from other schools maybe hey it's not working out there it's not fitting in there and based on how he talked about his culture obviously the group of players uh he brought in
Starting point is 01:01:33 the coaches that he's been with for a decade like that is very instrumental when you talk about building a culture and setting the tone within the uh meeting room so i'm hopeful that he just stays here i'm hopeful that one of these big schools don't come and pluck him out of the NFL. He's too old. They're basically all saying he's too old. Going on 42. And after listening to him talk, I believe. Might be 38. Whatever Coach Six says, I believe. I'm buying it too. So that's the kind of guy you want running the
Starting point is 01:01:56 program. So I hope he continues to build and dominate here. They got Nebraska this weekend. Here we go. So this is a huge game. Six and a half points. Matt Ruto, he's the team. He obviously has a great track record. Agreed. I'm looking forward to this. Yeah, and I think Bloomington's going to fill it up.
Starting point is 01:02:11 This game is played at noon. It is the big noon kickoff game, I believe. Congrats to Sig. Having that be the case in Indiana this late into the season already. They're obviously sitting at 6-0, 3-0 in the Big Ten. Nebraska 5-0, 3-0 in the Big Ten. Nebraska, 5-1, 2-1 in the Big Ten, but they're 1-0 in a row.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Will Matt Rule be able to continue that? Let's go to 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, player, coach, Jackie Moon of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, A.Q. Shipley. Penn State a little worried about fucking the 6-0. Uh-oh. No, but. What? But.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Easy. But I will say this He should clip that Because I'm telling you Anybody that has an old school mentality I know AJ Watson is fired up JJ is coming on I'm sure he was fired up Anybody that's played football
Starting point is 01:02:54 Appreciated what he just said If I have a 16 through 18 year old son That's getting recruited I'm saying listen to this guy Listen to this guy right now So I think he understands too Like Indiana The players we're going to get
Starting point is 01:03:04 Versus like The players Alabama Good high school football here too agreed you got a lot of talent here terry mclaurin obviously every single week is it great but there's some offense alignment yeah there there is there's a lot of good indiana football here that he'll he'll recruit but i think he knows like his style guy that he needs like he's not if he was at alabama i assume he's going to be recruiting and operating differently and how he goes about his stuff. But like him, he knows his guys. He finds his guys. He brought over a bunch of guys from JMU. How about his
Starting point is 01:03:31 offense coordinators? They've been with me about decades. These guys, $6,000 from where D2. Now they're hawk-maw. He's right. It's like he knows his people, I think. And being able to find it, especially if you're able to compete financially in the recruiting process, and being able to pay guys a little bit, which they've been able to do in basketball
Starting point is 01:03:48 because the basketball team is obviously a thing, but now that they have a football one, it's like, why not Sig, Sig, Nettie? Their brand of football is fun, too. That's kind of the one thing that I've always said about Iowa is they're never really going to be they don't get the athletes because they don't throw the ball a bunch. They run,
Starting point is 01:04:04 so they're always going to have the linemen and tight ends. Indiana scores like 50 points a game. Some of these big-time receivers that are in the state who maybe typically always went to a Notre Dame or something like that, you look at what Indiana does offensively. It's like, oh, no, I can go there, and I'm going to get 15 opportunities to catch the ball on Saturdays. That makes a big difference too.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Indiana is averaging 47.5 points a game this season. That is the second most in all of FBS, trailing only Miami. The Hoosiers have scored 40-plus points in five straight games, which is the longest streak in school history, obviously. So it's exciting football. It's tough football. It's accountable football. I'm going to have to do this all again in January.
Starting point is 01:04:41 You know, we're going to have to go through a transfer portal. But we've got about 15 guys we signed out of high school. So, got to build pillars of the house. Think we're doing that while we're bringing in our team. We got our guys. But we haven't. It's not all, what do you say, puffies? It's all warm fuzzies.
Starting point is 01:04:56 It's not all warm fuzzies. We haven't won anything yet. But it is nice. You know, it is nice. We're doing it. He's the best. They're awesome. And just having Sig in your name.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Yeah. Incredible. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, has a bird in his name, A.J. Hawk. Yeah. A.J. Hawker. Ohio State. Look out. I just asked Penn State.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Ohio State needs to potentially start. What? Who's that? Oh, that's a big cigarette. For real. I'm with you, man. Go ahead. I'm with you, man. Go ahead. I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I'm with you. I mean, Indiana is absolutely for real. And what AQ, he hit it on the head. When Sig said, I don't like to waste their time and like to get on and off the practice field. I'm like, yep, that's all we need to hear. Both those things are very important. On and off the practice field, in and out of meetings, too.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Don't need a two-hour meeting, but an hour and 15 will do the trick. Don't need that. It's like players will be like, okay. those moments though we're in it you better you better be there yeah you better yeah that hour and 40 you're on the field i'll run i'll run all day if you know like hey this is this is all for a specific reason we get our conditioning done through practice all of this yeah i think players absolutely appreciate that things only happen fast though if they happen right you know because the restarts are what or the redo do over like replay like that is what takes forever so if they're able to do it fast that also means like that's the plan but they're
Starting point is 01:06:15 executing as well which is very evident whenever they play ball yeah congrats to them i uh aj let's pivot away from college ball shout out to sig sig netetti. You've had a night now to kind of reach out to Aaron maybe. Sure. Right, that's probably the right answer. Maybe all your ex-Green Bay Packer friends and former teammates. About Devontae and Aaron joining back together, what are your thoughts on this glorious Wednesday after seeing Devontae pop his head into the conversation,
Starting point is 01:06:44 spin a football, hamstring's good. Thank you for asking, he says, whenever we bring that up because everybody's assuming that wasn't real. He's like, it is real. I had two Crunchwrap Supremes, no sour cream with this hamstring over the last two weeks. It is good to go, seemingly. What are your thoughts on Aaron and Devontae getting back together? And what have you been told by any of the source cities in your Rolodex of a phone? Well, I mean, I haven't really sat there and worked the phones, really,
Starting point is 01:07:10 to figure out any kind of new information. But I just saw Devontae posted a pic of his new cleats that he has with our Jets colors. So that looks pretty good. I feel pretty good about that. I love those green matte ones. The green ones are very clean. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:07:22 But, I mean, do you think he comes in and it's like a seamless... I would assume Devontae plays this week, obviously, and I hope they try to find... You don't want to force it, but get that dude involved early, man. I think it just brings juice to the whole team. He is playing this weekend. It was basically said yesterday, I think.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I think he's playing full. I think it's going to be a full. I think he's out there. It think it's going to be a full. Oh, yeah. Every play. I think he's out there. And it could potentially be the Odell Beckham Jr. situation. As soon as he joins the Rams, if you do recall, I think Odell had a touchdown every single game. And I think the first pass in the first game in which he joined the Rams, Stafford threw like just a stop route to OBJ on the outside.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And it was like, hey, very apparent we were going to get the ball to this guy because every conversation about him in Cleveland was he wasn't getting the ball. The guy won't throw me the ball. There's videos being made by my dad. Same exact thing with Devontae. I also think if he's even on the field and there's a thought that he's going to be able to accomplish that, that opens everything up
Starting point is 01:08:17 for Garrett a lot. This is a great move. And then the Buffalo Beals, AJ, they bring in Amari Cooper. What a move. It feels like there was two big, big name, big trades yesterday in the AFC East. I like that move as well. Yeah, this is – and Amari posted something, right? He didn't seem like he was too upset to leave Cleveland. Am I right?
Starting point is 01:08:36 Move or rust or something like that. So, meaning like they weren't using him like they should or they weren't getting the production that he deserves? Is that what he's saying? I think he was saying if I stay here too long i get rusty yeah you know that's right never die it makes sense it was a great route and i had the the hembo stat that got sent over something about like his average touchdown length is like 27 yards or something like that i forget the user yeah he's known to be able to score from anywhere is what
Starting point is 01:09:02 hembo said in this entire thing and And it's like, if Josh Allen adds that piece to the puzzle, which they had with Stephon, even though the last two years it has not gone great statistically for the deep ball, it's like, add another explosive playmaker. If he's anything... Now, there is a chance, because of what was
Starting point is 01:09:19 traded. Maybe if Cleveland Browns see this guy in practice, they say, this guy can't catch a football anymore. This guy got the ears. This guy just can't catch a football anymore. This guy got the ears. This guy just can't catch a football anymore. And they feel like they just absolutely fleeced the Buffalo Bills with this trade. Maybe that is the case. Maybe Amari just completely forgot how to play football, can't catch a ball anymore, and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:09:39 But if you just think about what Brady is going to do with Amari Cooper, you have to immediately agree. The Buffalo Bills got a lot better yesterday. And the Cleveland Browns made a decision to get rid of one of their best players. Like, what does that say about the Raiders? What does that say about the Browns? I don't want to keep harping on that, but that's a pretty big decision this early in the season to do that. And what, you just gave – is it the Browns?
Starting point is 01:10:00 I mean, they are – I would say both receivers are a little older. So, it's not like moving on from there will be like trading, you know, Max Crosby and, you know, still in his 20s. That was D-Bot that said that. No, I'm just saying. That's not happening, D-Bot. Hey, I've been saying it for the last couple weeks. Devontae Adams is still in the prime of his career.
Starting point is 01:10:18 But I can see moving off him, especially those two years left in his contract that aren't guaranteed. And then when you get, and then for the other side, for the buyers in a situation like New York, hey, I'm getting a great piece that I know fits in with the quarterback, knows the offensive system, will be a seamless fit, is going to be a great player. And the same thing with Mark Cooper.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Maybe he's not where Devontae Adams is, but he's a wide receiver that can run a complete route tree and has a complete understanding of the game, of coverages, of situations, of routes, of time and space and all those different things. It's going to help that young group of pass catchers also get open. And then you know Joe Brady wants to run the football and that offensive line, they want to run the football
Starting point is 01:10:53 as well. So I think both of these situations I think is good on the buying end and I can see where they're coming from, I guess on the selling end too with both teams. Yeah, and I guess the Cleveland Browns are just moving on from Murray Cooper. Hasn't been great for them this year is what they'd say yeah you know so this isn't a statement of any kind but what has just exactly just a few months ago davante was the pillar of the raiders what they were going to build around now he's on another team it's wild
Starting point is 01:11:18 it's crazy we're going into week seven it is uh gonna heat up we got coaches fired we got big name trades happening happens quick huh it does we got quarterbacks getting benched we i mean it has been an insane football season thus far you guys always talk about it too it's like oh yeah jacoby i thought i missed it completely forgot that happened and then and you know they look good the week after he got benched but then like they've they've gone back down to earth. It's like that didn't really... Did you see that clip where the commentator basically says about Bryce Young
Starting point is 01:11:51 on the sideline, he'll learn from a true professional. Tough timing. And then Andy Dalton throws a pick six. Less than two seconds later. Ends the game. I believe Sanchez, was it Sanchez maybe? Yeah. They acknowledged it later. That's why it's weird because Sanchez, I believe Sanchez, was it Sanchez maybe? They acknowledged it later.
Starting point is 01:12:05 That's why it's weird because Sanchez has been so good so him kind of doing the commentator curse for Andy Dahl and I did not see that coming. He keeps it light. He's a goofball on the call. Which I love it. I'm a fan of him. He's also got the ponytail haircut that everyone's crazy about right now.
Starting point is 01:12:21 He doesn't really know what's going on sometimes. What? What do you mean? Some of the things he says about some of the players maybe haven't happened or, you know, some things he doesn't know everything about. I watched him commentate the Dolphins Patriots. It was tough,
Starting point is 01:12:37 okay? It's bad enough I had to watch the whole thing, but him commentating like he knew what was going on with either of those teams was absurd. He was in the AFC East. It was a tough game. He did mention that the Dolphins, they need to hurry up and get this playoff,
Starting point is 01:12:55 snap the ball with about 20 seconds left on the play clock. Well, he saw the wrong clock. These are things that we like Mark Sanchez. I love Mark Sanchez. Sanchez. One of the best plays in the history of the New England Patriots is because of Mark Sanchez. I love Mark Sanchez. Sanchez. One of the best plays in the history of the New England Patriots is because of Mark Sanchez. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:07 All right. Listen. This is not right. I like Mark Sanchez. That's what I led with. Okay. All right. Did you hear what Chubb said to the city of Cleveland?
Starting point is 01:13:20 Yeah. Very sweet. How about that? That was very passionate. Now, Connor and I both agreed that he's on our fantasy football team, so we would like him to think he owes us as well. Yeah, you better back it up. Yeah, because this entire thing, but his letter to the
Starting point is 01:13:32 city of Cleveland was awesome. He said, you want to hear what Browns told my agent, by the way? When my agent called me to tell me the news, he said, I've never actually had a front office tell me anything like this, but they said that part of the reason they never entertained cutting you is because of how much you mean me the news. He said, I've never actually had a front office tell me anything like this, but they said that part of the reason they never entertained cutting you is because of how much you mean to the city. That really meant the world to me, says Chubb. Look, I know the deal.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I had no guaranteed money left. The Browns had all the leverage. They could have left me high and dry like so many guys in this league, but they had my back. You, Cleveland, had my back. That's enough talking for me. There's only one thing left to do now. I got to pay you back. These rocks ain't going to move themselves. Let's work, says Nick Chubb. More like a mountain, seemingly, for what the Browns have been through thus far. But the rocks are certainly a way to – they're a different team with him, right? Chubb is a different – He makes a team immediately different because of how he can run the rock.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Sounds like he is very very motivated to play well for the cleveland browns yeah it's good for i guess cleveland to get some positive pub for once too like it's not that often where players or coaches or pundits are saying anything positive about cleveland so yeah good for him i guess he's he's saying he's giving props to the organization as well as the fans in the city so yeah he seems to be perfect for cleveland you kidding me doesn't say much at all just goes to work every single day have we heard anything out of detroit have we heard anything about what detroit's trying to do or what they're uh thinking about doing fox haven't heard a single thing the only thing they did yesterday was sign mcneil
Starting point is 01:14:56 which was a big deal but yeah no one really knows what they're gonna do okay i got an idea joining us now ladies and gentlemen he's one of the only members of the Houston Texans Ring of Honor. He's a future first ballot Hall of Famer. And this past weekend, his CBS co-host reminded him that he doesn't come to a lot of those shows. Every single week he joins us. This week, we got a brand new sec with him. Former Pizza Hut delivery driver, J.J. Wall.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yay! Jage, I can't wait for hashtag AskJage which we'll do here in a few moments. Got some good questions. Became number one trainer in the United States of America. People wanted to ask you questions. People got some questions. That was literally the photo I sent to you.
Starting point is 01:15:37 A screenshot with a finger circle there. Finger circle on a screenshot there. Just letting you know where it was. Didn't know if you couldn't see it. Just had to point out what was going on with your name, Jage. Did you feel that? I felt it. I felt it. I did feel it.
Starting point is 01:15:52 I was up a little early this morning. You were clearly up early yourself. So I was excited to speak to you right upon waking, and it was enjoyable. Also trying to figure out, I was just listening in for the last couple minutes. AJ said Cleveland doesn't get a lot of love. I mean, I feel like for the past few years we've talked exclusively about how incredible their defense is, about how they've had a window. Been trying to give them a lot of love.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Been trying to give them a lot of love. They've gotten a lot of it. I just feel like I don't disagree that it might be ending at the current moment. But something was awesome. Age. Age. What Jage is saying is. Yeah, well, Jage isn't wrong, but I'm not talking about Jage.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I'm talking about other people. I live in Ohio, so I hear people take their frustrations out and ask me, like, well, what's going on? Just the Browns being the Browns. So I guess the collective feel of what's going on. Oh, you're talking about, hey, let's go to Hammer. Don, Don. What do they say about that team over there in Cleveland, Tone?
Starting point is 01:16:50 What was it? Same old Browns. That's what it was. Okay, yeah. I think that's what Age is talking about. He's talking about Tone and a lot of the national people that just assume that the Cleveland Browns are going to mess it up. And, boy, it feels like we're in the middle of that right now.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yep. And I think it's from ownership, not even from GM or head coach. So GM and head coach kind of sit in a position where it's like, we didn't even make these, but now we're – Taking all the bullets. And then their guy. I mean, the Chubb letter was sick, though. I mean, if you don't go out there and, you know, win this week
Starting point is 01:17:19 and Chubb plays well and you got that going, who knows? Get that ball rolling, baby. But I can get behind that. I can get behind that. You're right. You can definitely start rolling, especially if Chubb plays well and you got that going. Who knows? Get that ball rolling, baby. But I can get behind that. I can get behind that. You're right. You can definitely start rolling, especially if Chubb gets rolling. And I appreciate that letter to the fans, but let's make sure. Yeah, hey, look how.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Fantasy. We remember. You have to put on. It looked so good on paper a couple years ago. Went and got Deshaun. Invested in the O-line. Still got Chubb. Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Defense. There's a ward. Like, just that draft well? What happened? They got their uniforms. They switched their uniforms back to these good ones. The Elves. They were rolling.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Let's head to Hammer. Don. Tom. What happened, Tone? Same old Browns, Pat. Okay. Same old Browns. Thanks for the update.
Starting point is 01:18:02 That's what everybody says, Jage. I mean. That's why. That's why Jage was saying that to you, Jage. Now let's talk about Detroit. That's not the same old. No. That's actually the brand new Lions.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And you know what they need, Jage? A lot of, I mean, what do they need, Pat? They need a premier pass rusher. Yeah. Don't they? They need a bad junior. Maybe a big white one. A big white one. His number's in the 90s maybe.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Yeah, a big white pass rusher. Plays great at Ford Field all the time. Yeah, because then they're – Love Ford Field. Love playing at Ford Field. Big fan. Big, big fan of playing at Ford Field. How about the unis? I know you're a big uni guy. Oh playing at Ford Field. Big fan. Big, big fan of playing at Ford Field. How about the unis?
Starting point is 01:18:46 I know you're a big uni guy. Oh! Wow! Ooh! Fucking unis! Oh, that's a good uni! Wow! Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:18:54 What do we... Have we contemplated? I look cool. I look cool. I look good. Yeah, you do look cool. You do look cool. Am I worthy of all blacks in the playoffs?
Starting point is 01:19:02 Oh, the Mercedes muscle. Damn, what do we think? I love Detroit, man. I love Detroit. Detroit's a great city. I love what Dan Campbell's doing. I love the 16 times too large podium they got going on up there. I love it all, man.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Hell yeah. Great. They got a good run. I mean, it really, really sucks that Aiden went down, man. He's literally playing at the top of the top. I mean, literally defensive that Aiden went down, man. He's literally playing at the top of the top. I mean, literally, Defensive Player of the Year conversation, no doubt, leading every category.
Starting point is 01:19:31 It sucks, man. It really sucks, especially an injury like that. Pretty unbelievable. He finished the sack with a snapped leg. Just a pure badass move. I mean, if you're going to break your leg, what a badass way to do it, getting a sack. But those guys are still in great position. Obviously, you're never in as good a position when you use a guy like that.
Starting point is 01:19:50 But Dan Campbell's building something special up there. They're an absolute wagon. And I'm really looking forward to seeing them against the Brian Flores defense because they're putting up points at an incredible rate. And Flores is great, so it should be a lot of fun. Yeah, Flores is throwing heat this year. I'm excited to see what he does to try to get the Detroit Lions offense off their game. And obviously, Aiden Hutchins, who we're big fans of.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Big, big fans of Hutch. The human, the player, absolute bummer. But what are they saying up there in Detroit? They're saying maybe Jage, right? Aren't they saying that? A lot of people are asking for you, J.J. Watt. And I saw your tweet. You said, I love waking up and playing with my kid and drinking my coffee,
Starting point is 01:20:27 and I get it, but this isn't about you, okay? This is about the city of Detroit. This is about what was once the worst franchise in the history of all sports, and we're finally back, and we lost our hometown hero, and guess what? There's a new hero. You saw what Kyle Van Noy is doing straight from the couch. Okay? And I know you know you can do that. Detroit
Starting point is 01:20:49 needs you, JJ. You can be a hero. We can have a statue of JJ Watt in Detroit. All you gotta do is join the Detroit Lions. Welcome to Detroit City. You make a lot of good points. Coffee. MCDC loves coffee of good points. Coffee.
Starting point is 01:21:05 MCDC loves coffee. Yeah, deez, deez. What's his order again? He takes two black eyes, man. Two espressos in each, about 30, 40 ounces. Deez, deez. Right to the face, man. So, coffee, check.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Okay, you say like that. I assume MCDC's okay with Koa just walking around the facility? He can do whatever he wants. Okay, so all these things you put out your tweet I think we could kind of we got oh it's a great team it's a great setup I mean there's no like like I don't bullshit you like you definitely sit there and think about things you think if you think about all sorts of things and they did they I mean it's a great situation up there check a lot of boxes they have a lot of a lot of great things going on up there there There's no doubt. I'm just
Starting point is 01:21:46 really enjoying retired life. I'm not going to lie to you. It's pretty sweet. Have you talked to him? You talk to anybody in Detroit? Your agent? I don't talk to anybody. Not even your boy? Yeah, you should talk to your child. You walk with AQ. Yeah, you do. And Michael Phelps is with him.
Starting point is 01:22:02 He golfers. Pickleball with the billionionaires is some secret. Oh, yeah. The Illuminati. Underground Nation. That's right. I forgot about that. No.
Starting point is 01:22:12 London. I mean, we got a – Burnley, we have a deal to visit Detroit. So Detroit, Burnley, great combination there. Oh, yeah. Big fan of that. Shout out. You can win a trip to. We're sending somebody from the America to Burnley to watch a game
Starting point is 01:22:27 and we're also sending somebody from Burnley to America to watch the Lions game and a Pistons game. Okay, so people from the London are getting sent to the America in Detroit? Correct. What a good deal. That's a good deal.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I mean, this is welcome to Detroit City. All over, isn't it? Do we want Burnley to be successful or not? How about these two lads coming over to watch a Detroit game? And then the owner of Burnley is like, hey, it's like Turfmore. It's Jake. Watch this. And he's doing a whole.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Turning down for a while. That'd be some serious commitment to the contest. Don't let him watch the Pistons, though. Yeah, what are you doing, man? He's almost trying to make Detroit look bad. Send him to the Red Wings game. That might suck, too.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Yeah, I don't know if you should send him to the Red Wings game, especially if you're playing the Penguins. How's it going, Foxy? How's hockey going? It's early. The boys are just getting the cement out of their skates. Congrats to your Burnley team. There's a chance you can play the Pittsburgh Riverhounds. I would say probably not good for the boys'
Starting point is 01:23:34 mojo if you want to ruin the confidence of the Burnley boys. What's that? You don't want that smoke. You don't want to be playing, Donner. You don't want that smoke. Tough barn't want that smoke. You don't want to be playing, Donner. Nah, you don't want that smoke. Tough barn. Tough barn.
Starting point is 01:23:46 You think Burnley boys can walk into Pittsburgh down on that? You don't even, you don't, like, turf moors, wherever the smoke hounds play or the rats, the river rats. River rats. Son of a bitch. I'll come in hot. I'll come in hot. I'll come in hot. Yeah, you need to watch.
Starting point is 01:24:06 No disrespect to anybody on the team, by the way. This is purely with the boys in the studio. You think Bartley can play right there? No way. I don't think so. There's no way that's the actual stadium. Yeah, what do you mean? That looks like a rendering that they want, maybe.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Look at the views. There's no way that's the real stadium. You can literally feel the Yinzers just going. Is that a real fast-racing? That looks like a rendering. Nope. Yeah. Heinz Fields right across the river, brother. Yeah, casino too, Don. Are you really wanting to make this worthwhile?
Starting point is 01:24:36 You know? Is this GTA? Yeah, it will be. It will be for Burnley. Yeah, we're going to grand theft their're gonna grand theft actually the stadium that's awesome pittsburgh pittsburgh potentially possibly probably the best location of stadiums in sports if you combine them all correct that is correct name one better but i hear you Correct.
Starting point is 01:25:01 That is correct. Name one better. Philly. I hear you. The White House. Philly. Philly, yeah. Just because they're in the same area.
Starting point is 01:25:09 They're in a parking lot. Look at the view, bro. One big parking lot. Look at the view, bro. Is that a real picture? Yes. What the hell, D-Bud? Oh, yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 01:25:17 I don't think that's a real picture. Show the picture of the other stadium. Actually. Indy has, but the, I think he's just talking like view from stadium. The river. Yeah, I'm talking like the river, like all that. I'm talking the beauty of the setting. Seattle.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Yeah. Oh. Puget Sound. Yeah, with the city behind it. Yeah, because there's a mountain right near there, too, right? Baseball's right there, too. Yeah. You could take a boat to the game in Pittsburgh, too.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Yeah, but you're hitting dead bodies. Ride the ferry. Yeah, you would jump from Lumen Field. You can't really see the water. You're close, but you're hitting dead bodies. Ride the ferry. From Lumen Field, you can't really see the water. You're close, but you can't really. Like this, you can get a shot of PNC Park, Heinz Field, whatever that rendering was, all in the same shot. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:25:57 It's all available. Isn't Cleveland right on the lake? I thought that was pretty cool. Why do they hate that place? I'm very curious. AJ, maybe you know Ohio guy. Why do they hate the Cleveland Stadium so much? I don't mind it at all.
Starting point is 01:26:11 I think it's the owner, right? First time I played there, I was like, this place is actually very nice. I enjoy this. I'm sure it's the owner. The owner wants to have his Patriots place. You need to own everything around it. A little too windy. That's probably true.
Starting point is 01:26:22 A little bit too windy. They call it the mistake by the lake, but I think being by the lake is cool. I always enjoyed playing there. It's a great spot. You're not talking about the stadium. Yeah, it's the whole city they're saying. I do feel, once again, hey, let's go to Hammer.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Bam! Bam! What do they call Cleveland? Mistake by the lake. Okay, thank you. Oh, it's the whole city? I thought it was the stadium. No, it's the whole city.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeez. Once again, we don't think? I thought it was the stadium. No, it's the whole city. Yeah, yeah. We don't think Cleveland deserves it. I'm just telling you, this is a group of people in Pittsburgh feel, and I assume there's some other places. Let's talk about some NFL news other than just where stadiums are and Burnley getting their asses beat by the Riverhounds right on the river there with a great view. At least you're getting an ass beat with a great view.
Starting point is 01:27:02 That's good. Let's talk about a new view for Devontae Adams. He is moving into a mega mansion in New Jersey that Aaron Rodgers calls home, and he'll be playing for the New York Jets now going forward. How big of a move do you think this is, JJ? We've talked about this ad nauseum now for two days, gotten everybody's take on it. Seemingly, everybody around football that I know thinks that this is a good thing for the Jets team, but Jets are still two and four right now, So there's a lot of time to go. How do you view the trade and what are your thoughts on how it's going to look going forward? Yeah. I mean, anytime you add Devontae Adams to
Starting point is 01:27:33 your team, it's going to be a positive and it's going to make you better. I mean, he's a great receiver. He's a great player, has great rapport with Aaron Rodgers from the past, obviously. I think you have to look at it as they're throwing everything possible at this year, knowing that they're trying to make something happen. I mean, they're clearly not playing the way they thought they were. They're clearly not playing the way many of us thought they would be playing the season. So I don't know if desperate is the proper word, but I mean, they're throwing everything at the table here saying like, we went all in with Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 01:28:04 We're trying to win a Super Bowl. So give him what he wants, give him everything he asks for, and let's go out there and try and win this season. Very tough. I mean, you're sitting there at two and four, and that's that point in a season where three and four looks like, all right, let's go, let's do this. Two and five is like, oh, shit, we're going. So this game against Pittsburgh on Sunday night already was going to be an awesome game. Now you add Devontae Adams into the mix, it's going to be huge for both these teams' seasons. Depending on what the Steelers do at quarterback,
Starting point is 01:28:36 it's massive for theirs too, because that's going to have huge implications. Go ahead, AJ. Jage, how do you think this works out, though, for the Jets? Obviously, they're going all in, but do you think this is a recipe for success? success like will they be able to get in the playoffs and make a run win a super bowl i don't i don't know if i don't know if that's the move that's like all of a sudden i know i think woody johnson just came out and said that like this is the
Starting point is 01:28:57 ambassador england ambassador johnson to england uh He said this is the move that unlocks the entire offense. I don't know. I don't know if that's the case. I think he's a great player. I think he's really going to make a lot of great plays. But I don't know if I'm watching that offense just change coordinators, obviously. But I don't know if adding one receiver is all of a sudden going to take a 2-4 team and flip them around to a 7-4 team.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Who knows? I don't think that's the one thing that does it. is all of a sudden going to take a 2-4 team and flip them around to a 7-4 team. You know? Who knows? I don't think that's the one thing that does it. What do you think this says about Raiders season and everything like that? Because obviously your name is being tossed around to go to Detroit City, and then Max Crosby's name, not by Raiders,
Starting point is 01:29:38 not by Max Crosby. We're just saying. Don't say it, Pat. We don't need to get in any more trouble here. D-Butt said it. D-Butt said it earlier today. D-Butt said it earlier today. D-Butt said it earlier today. But let's just say the Detroit Lions wanted to make a massive play for Max Crosby
Starting point is 01:29:52 and Tom Telesco had to look at it. They had to. How do you feel about the Raiders? How do you feel about Max Crosby potentially being on the move? Or do you think Max Crosby is the guy that they're going to continue to build around, like they said about him and Devontae during the offseason? I mean, I think Max Crosby is a Raider, man. He said it.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Everybody says it like he is a Raider. Now, if I'm the GM, if I'm sitting there in a different position and I have the opportunity to make a massive splash and get a ton of capital for an unbelievable player and he's open to it and he wants to go to a contender, a team that can do it, massive splash and get a ton of capital for an unbelievable player, and he's open to it, and he wants to go to a contender, a team that can do it, I think you look at it. Because the Raiders, I mean, just looking at it,
Starting point is 01:30:35 now this could be a freezing cold take later, but it doesn't look like they're winning the Super Bowl this year. That's just looking at it, watching like that. Put on a ticker. Put on a ticker. Put on a SeatGeek ticker. So obviously you've already got Devontae gone, a guy you said you're going to build around. If you can get a massive splash for it and you had the opportunity to do
Starting point is 01:30:53 something and Tom Brady can come in and decide his entire own organization and make it how he wants, I think definitely something to consider. But Max has to be open to it. I hate, I don't like it when you don't, if a guy says he wants to be a part of your team and he's done everything right the entire time and he's done everything to be open to it i don't i hate i don't like it when you don't if a guy says he wants to be a part of your team and he's done everything right the entire time and he's done everything to be that guy for your franchise i do not like shipping that guy out because it's not a good message to your locker room it's not a good message to your fans it's not a good message to
Starting point is 01:31:16 anybody yeah if you do everything right still going okay just uh keep it on your toes that's not a good message especially with tom telesco and AP kind of newly trying to build this in their kind of way, which would make you maybe think about do we need to – which I don't want to say. Once again, we love Max Crosby on the Raiders. We think he's a perfect Raider in this entire thing. But let's go to Tom Brady era as well, starting for the Raiders. Have you seen the rules?
Starting point is 01:31:40 This guy just doesn't have to work. And then he gets paid $370 million, and then he calls games, and he owns a team. And there's a lot of people that are maybe whining about it. So he can't go to any of the meetings that take up all the time that are the actual work. Doesn't have to travel to the facility to do, once again, time to travel to do. Pretty sweet deal. But he gets to still call the games.
Starting point is 01:31:59 He's not allowed to do any of these things. Now, granted, his inside sources and information is obviously going to be lesser than other commentators, but he also, oh yeah, on the side, he gets to own a team and teams have been yodeling, yodeling, yodeling, yodeling
Starting point is 01:32:11 forever. Going to be a great financial investment and also he's back on a team. The only human, and D-Bucks and I talked about this
Starting point is 01:32:17 during the break, the only human in the history of the NFL that deserves it and has earned it, Tom Brady. Congratulations. Congratulations, Tom. You've earned it.
Starting point is 01:32:26 He's an owner of a team. He's getting paid more than anybody else to do commentary, and he doesn't have to not allowed to do any of the shit, basically, to be a commentator. He's going to miss out on information. I agree. But what are your thoughts on Tom Brady getting ownership? I think it's great for former players to get into ownership. I'm very pumped
Starting point is 01:32:42 for him. He's going to be a bazillionaire in no time if he isn't already with all of his investments. players to get into ownership i'm very pumped for him good he's going to be a bazillionaire in uh no time if he isn't already with all of his investments and then for commentating how do you think this affects him if at all yeah i mean from my understanding he's been operating under these protocols already the entire season so it's not like this is brand new this week all of a sudden he's not going to do this i From my understanding, he's been operating under this protocol. So I also have the question of how strict are these, who's following them, because as you know, the production meetings and those meetings the day before the game
Starting point is 01:33:14 where you get information from coaches and players and everything, those are a big part of the broadcast and what they talk about. And I have to imagine that even if he's not in those meetings, in the meetings that they have after those meetings the topics are discussed and the things are talked about um because it is it's crucial to the game and kevin's going to be talking about it on the broadcast and they're going to be bringing those things up so i would be curious how closely and then not being allowed to criticize game officials and other clubs that's the other one that's like all right what does that
Starting point is 01:33:42 mean like if he questions a roughing the passer call in the game, is that questioning the officials? Or if he says like that was a bad call to go for it on fourth down, is that criticizing another club? Where is that line? I don't know. Yeah, conduct detrimental to the team was used against me a few times for tweets. So to criticize the game or officials or other clubs,
Starting point is 01:34:03 they can kind of throw that around, I think, however they want. If calling a play what if it what if he does just smart ass answers that was a great call that was a that was a great call yeah what happens though does he get fined if does he get fined if he says that like what who what's the punishment i don't get it where are these they take away a ring he's great and And who enforces the rules? Roger. We know that. That's what I'm saying. So the anti-champion policy, he's famous for having some lunches with some of the quarterbacks coming out for the draft.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I mean, we've heard about the stuff he's talked to CJ about, Drake May, some of these other guys. That, in my opinion, you could look at that and say, well, hang on. That's him talking to potential draft picks. That's him talking to other teams' quarterbacks. When free agency comes up, is that playing a role? Because he's already talking to those guys. How strict are we taking these things?
Starting point is 01:34:50 Because can a guy not have friends? Yeah, and can a guy not mentor? You know, the greatest of all time, don't we want that for our league? Only the Raiders could be, no. Yeah, I guess. Only Aiden O'Connell, who we saw earlier, he's stuck in a pocket. Yeah, unbelievable. He's crashing down and just absolutely throwing a seed.
Starting point is 01:35:08 You know, that was without the vaunt. I don't know if you saw that three talking points from week six of the NFL season. AJ, first one was TJ Watts is MVP worthy. Let's look at a play. Let's look at a play. This is the first one he showed. And he'll call me first. There was an absolute.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Power snag. He was getting that ball out quick, man. He was doing a good job. Exactly. Well, that was AQ's thing. AQ was like, he didn't get any stats here. Actually, the Raiders have a massive play. And TJ is still affecting the game completely,
Starting point is 01:35:37 which is why he's saying he's MVP worthy, which you obviously have experience before. Is he a best player? Is he the most valuable person? That might happen at the end of the year with TJ is what you were were saying 100 now you also showcased an adele o'connell yeah dog kind of love o'connell kind of a dog out there speaking of dogs you just mentioned him king henry should also be in that conversation yeah he's on his way to another triple crown like i've always said a quarterback is the mvp it's mandatory but
Starting point is 01:36:01 king henry's doing unbelievable things right now so So many touchdowns, Derrick Henry. And that's like, what is our red zone now? It's just like, we got 550 pounds back here. So that can run. Stop it. And then Lamar can do whatever. So, tush-push was cute, I agree, but not really fun to watch, right? Yeah, we got an extended tush-push pretty much. And it's recording, it's Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Yeah. And it is. Look at that, Look at that. Look at that. He had 132 yards, two touchdowns. And, like, it's almost an under. Like, it's not even a topic of discussion. That's an insane game for any running back.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Yet, Derrick Henry does it. And we're like, oh, yeah, he just played like he normally plays. Well, you get 2,000 yards. Going to have to continue to roll and pick it up a little bit. Because, you know, first couple weeks wasn't great. You know, they're still trying to figure it out. Remember, Harbaugh said, we're not giving them 25-30. That's not the entire thing here.
Starting point is 01:36:49 And somebody was like, hey, hey, hey, hey. Roll that playback for a second. That's what we do here. AQ, I have a question for you. Yep. I'm a D lineman who I love to take the full ball. I like to try and get as close to the ball as I can. I just looked at this picture right here.
Starting point is 01:37:05 That is about as far off the ball as I've seen an NFL D-line in a long time. What was worse for you? Did you rather, would you want a guy tighter to the line or do you want him off? So it was easier for me when they were tighter. Short arms. Really? Yeah, just because everything's timing, right? Even in the, especially in the pass throw, right?
Starting point is 01:37:24 Like I want to punch on my third step. And so when they're further off the ball, that throws off that timing. Now I've got to time my punch. And, you know, if the guy's right up on me, it's like one, two, three, hands are getting thrown no matter what. But when he's off the ball, it's like a half a tick late. Now you're punching. There's nothing there.
Starting point is 01:37:40 And you're like, oh, shit, what do I do, you know? And that was the whole thing. We had Leroy Glover as a coaching intern. Leroy glover is a legend of the game defensive tackle down when i was in tampa bay and he said he always tried to get off the ball or he always tried to do different things to throw off the timing of the offensive line and i feel like when you're up tight to the nose of the ball all our timing is in play okay so the number one thing that i tell young the alignment when they ask me for tips on pass rushing and everything, I say an offensive lineman is a creature of habit who wants to set in rhythm. They want to set, set, punch, set, set, punch, whatever you do, disrupt that rhythm.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Either you have to get on them faster or slower. So for me, one of the moves I always liked was I would pop up out of my stance right away. Coaches hate it, but it would all of a sudden freeze that alignment because I'm not coming any closer to him. So he's like, wait a second, when am I supposed to punch? He's not moving towards me. So that little hesitation that I would give then would change his whole footwork and would give me all the leverage and advantage. So you'd say, J.J. Shark.
Starting point is 01:38:41 J.J. Shark. J.J. Shark. J.J. Shark. Boo! That-do-do-do-do. J.J. Shark. Do-do-do-do-do-do. J.J. Shark. Do-do-do-do-do-do. J.J. Shark. Boo! That's what you would do in the Halloween version. Yep. Quarterback.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Hey! That's what you would do. And the tackle would go, whoa! And then you would go, little swoop-do-do-do-do-do-do. Maybe bull-boop-do-do-do-do-do-do. Maybe pick-do-do-do-do-do-do. That's a sack. Is that what you did?
Starting point is 01:39:05 If this show doesn't win Emmys, I don't know what will. We don't fucking want it. Maybe pick That's a sack Is that what you did? If this show doesn't win Emmys, I don't know what will. We don't fucking want it. This is an Emmy worthy show. Anyways. This show should have all the Emmys. JJ. How about an Oscar? Just stop.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Yeah. It's a movie. Or a Tony. How about a Tony? We do a lot of singing. I want a Tony. We do a lot of dancing. We're not playing the sports Emmys games.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Ever. That ain't ever happening. I'm not doing it. All the people that vote on them, I hate them. They hate me. I hate them. We're not playing your fucking game. Okay, that is how I feel about sports Emmys.
Starting point is 01:39:36 But I'm sure there's a lot of good people out there. Yeah, of course. And those who win them, congratulations. They are certainly worthy. And you have earned all of them. Well, that being said, you're not going to see this show winning any of those. Maybe a daytime Emmy, though. That would be cool.
Starting point is 01:39:48 That'd be sweet. Daytime Emmy would be cool. Sports Emmy is this way. What is that? Are we up against Days of Our Lives? Yeah, Kelly Clarkson's show I think we'll probably be up against. That's going to be tough. She can really sing.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Drew Barrymore. Drew Barrymore. Great show. Jay Hud. I think Hud's. Steve Wilkos. The View, I believe, is a daytime Emmy show. Yeah, The View would be tough.
Starting point is 01:40:09 That's a tough one, obviously. But I think we're going to be trying for those as opposed to sports ones. That's what was back in the day. Dude, when Jerry Springer would come walking out with his little card in his hand and his microphone, just what's about to happen? Maury. Maury. Maury. Ricky microphone. Just, what's about to happen? More, more, more. Ricky Lake.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Oh, Ricky Lake. I forgot. Sally Raphael. Sally Jessie Raphael. Yeah, Ricky Lake, I forgot. Geraldo. Geraldo did have a good one. Steve getting one out of the Jerry one
Starting point is 01:40:41 and then becoming more serious than ever. Yep. I didn't see that coming. Me neither. I thought he was going to have the gimmick fights. Oh, yeah. Instead, serious than ever. I didn't see that coming. Me neither. I thought he was going to have the gimmick fights. Instead, it was like, this guy's a pedophile. He's had sex with four kids. Steve's like, is that right? Take a lie detector test.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I'm like, holy shit, Steve's a real dude. I didn't expect that, though. But I watched it. Yeah, who didn't? And then Wheel of Fortune would just sneak in there. Not Wheel of Fortune. Price is Right. Price is Right. Price is Right.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Yeah. Drew really disappeared in there, didn't he, when he got that gig? What's his name? Drew Perry. Yeah, there it is. Cleveland Rocks, yeah. I mean, I don't know. He's okay.
Starting point is 01:41:18 You know Bob Barker. That show kind of. Whose line is it anyway? Great show. Wayne Brady with a dog. Who's the tall, skinny one? Tall, skinny white guy. He's funny, too.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Yeah, tall, skinny white guy. Don't know him, but he's funny. And the old one. He's very funny. I agree. Wayne Brady. Those guys are hilarious. They were very quick, too, it seemed like.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I don't know how many. Yeah, even frumpy bald white guy is pretty funny, too. Yeah, and older, quieter white guy. He's good, too. Guy, we do appreciate you, boys. We can do all the points. Should have the name. All right, let's get back to some football talk.
Starting point is 01:41:52 That's the one right there. Yeah. That's the day. How's Ryan Seacrest doing, Wheel of Fortune? Anybody see? Let's get a hammer. Down, down. Tony, you and I, big-time Wheel of Fortune watchers.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Have you seen the Ryan Seacrest era? How's it going? Yeah, his suits are, and foremost much, much better. Like, they're from this age. So just looking at him is much better than what we were dealing with before. And I like him. I think he's doing a great job. He mixes in some jokes, you know.
Starting point is 01:42:16 He's already got a little bit of what were you thinking there with your answer, which took, what's his name, quite some time. Sajak. Yeah, Sajak took quite some time to deal with. No, I think he's doing a good job. Seacrest got more sauce than Sajak. Yeah, yeah. More pizzazz.
Starting point is 01:42:29 There'll be a lot of letters up there, and Seacrest will be like, don't fuck this up. You know? Sajak would say, like, say everything. Don't miss anything in proper order or whatever. Seacrest is like, this is, come on. Diff-wrapped. Which I appreciate. He does look super good in those suits. Oh, yeah. And Vanna's still touching the board. And Vanna and him are still doing jokes at the end. Which I appreciate. He does look super good in those suits.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Vanna's still touching the board. And Vanna and him are still doing jokes at the end. Nice. Yeah, that's good. All right, thank you, Wheel of Fortune. How's Jeopardy? You watch Jeopardy, Jage? That's your thing, huh?
Starting point is 01:42:57 No, no, not a lot. I was definitely a Price is Right guy. I was heavy Price is Right. A little bit of Wheel of Fortune here. Grandma loves it, so enjoyed watching that with her um i was a football player so jeopardy wasn't exactly you know right up my alley too many answers possible up there yeah a lot of possibilities yeah a lot of categories a lot of categories during sports jeopardy i think they tried it like 10 times and it works but when you catch one of these categories though so good oh turn it up like i am
Starting point is 01:43:25 genius man turn it up what is babe ruth that's what i thought no candy bar uh not because that would be who is right yeah you see what i got wrong let's get back to football here okay you talked about tom brady tampering with draft prospects at that fanatics meal at ruben's house you remember? One of them you mentioned was Drake May. He has played. Dee Butch has a question for you now, Jay. Yeah, all the rookies that have been playing quarterback position have kind of been finding their groove.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Drake May got his first start against your Houston Texans last week. He got beat up a little bit, but I think had a pretty good debut. What's your thoughts early on, Drake May? Yeah, I would agree with your assessment i mean obviously got beat up obviously the game didn't go the way the patriots wanted it to but if i'm sitting there as a patriots fan looking at my team i got excited watching drake may play now does that mean he's going to be super successful this year i don't know because of everything they have around him i don't know if it's i don't know if it's exactly set up for success this season. But watching him start out a little rough in that game,
Starting point is 01:44:27 then at the end of the first half there, throw that ball, the 40-yard touchdown right before the end of the half was awesome because it shows some resiliency. It shows some guts to stand in there, make that throw. And then the second half, he came out and did some more. Obviously, kind of the fluky interception that he had wasn't ideal but truthfully when you see a guy that can withstand some early pressure mentally overcome that and then go out there and make some great plays throughout the game I think he's only going to get better with time like I said I don't know if the team around him
Starting point is 01:44:58 is necessarily there to have a great season overall but I would I would be encouraged if I'm a Patriots fan yeah he they lost lost by 20, and he was jacked up. Connor coming in here. Oh, yeah. I mean, he was so pumped up about it all. And he also said Drake May took some massive shots and bounced right back up. So he seemingly has it all. Will Anderson Jr., man.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Will Anderson Jr. played a phenomenal game. Awesome to see him get the AFC Defensive Player of the Week. Incredible player. Love watching him. Can we go back to the owner's box celebration there, Foxy, if we can get to that part of the video there? Great uniform, by the way. Perfect example of a one-timer, not a full-timer.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Whoa, whoa. Need to be full-time. Really a little loud is probably what Jade is saying there. You don't need it. So who's up in the booth? Didn't it used to be Jon Bon Jovi? We're looking by 20 now. We got no Jon Bon Jovi. No, JBJ's got some gigs.
Starting point is 01:45:48 He'll be back for sure. That is Jonathan, his son, next to him. I think that is Bubby's wife to the left of him. Not 100% sure, but don't worry. Jon Bon will be back. He's probably slaying a guitar and crushing the pipe
Starting point is 01:46:04 somewhere. Yeah, he certainly is. I just want to say the owner's box over there in New England has looked celebrity-less. They know they've got a lot of work to do. It's all business now. That's why. He doesn't want celebrities coming to town when we're losing by 20. Speaking of all business, what the hell is going on in Dallas?
Starting point is 01:46:19 Ty, is the question for you? Yeah, JJ, it seems like with the Cowboys' defense, a lot of people are either saying, hey, these guys absolutely stink, and that's kind of just how it is. And then also, Micah hasn't been playing. They have some other injuries. Is there any way they can salvage what's going on? Because they're just getting embarrassed
Starting point is 01:46:36 week after week. And like with a guy like Mike Zimmer, who is so highly respected, is his message just not getting through? Like, what the hell is going on with that in Dallas, and how do they fix it? Yeah's very difficult i mean you're sitting there at three and three you're not like you're not playing great you're not playing i mean some some games this last game you're playing pretty poorly um your micah's out they got a couple more injuries along that d-line especially um but anytime you have a team who's a Super Bowl contender, which people think that
Starting point is 01:47:06 the Cowboys are, especially going into the season, and you've got these big contracts, you signed Dak, you got CD, you have a guy like Micah, who you haven't signed yet per se, but he's that level of player who's going to get a gigantic contract. You expect to be competing at the highest level. And right now, it's a little bit more of a yo-yo job where they're kind of going up and going down week by week. So, yes, you can absolutely salvage it. I mean, they're sitting there at three in theory. It's one of those situations.
Starting point is 01:47:31 It's Dallas. You win a game, you're on top of the world, and we're all going to win the Super Bowl. You lose a game, it's the end of the world. We suck. Nobody's ever going to be good ever again. But you do get pummeled at home on Jerry Jones' birthday. That is a very tough one to take,
Starting point is 01:47:46 and clearly tensions are rising down there. What do you mean? You know how that goes. What do you mean tensions are rising? What do you mean? I mean, I saw the radio host thing. You know how it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:58 I don't think I've ever heard that before. Who are Shan and RJ? Who do they work for? I don't know. Do they work for Jerry? I think so. I don't think so. Is Jerry the boss down there?
Starting point is 01:48:07 Does Jerry own the radio station? Was it Odyssey or something like that? That's what I'm saying. They sound like. I do appreciate he said, this ain't what I signed up for. Yeah. Let's get the fuck, you two the fuck out of here. Quickly.
Starting point is 01:48:21 And they go, ah. He goes, you think I'm joking? Oh, that's funny. I ain't joking. I turned 82. I'm never going to be able to do that again. You know what I did?
Starting point is 01:48:30 I got lost the whole time. You guys crack, why'd you do this? Why'd you do that? Why'd you do that? You want to go through my whole life?
Starting point is 01:48:36 You remember there was that, what's going on? We going to talk about that? Yeah. We going to do this whole thing? I don't think so, Shan, RJ. We can fucking fill you in
Starting point is 01:48:44 with any Dallas double that we want to put in here. Now, I do apologize for the way I acted. We're all passionate, okay? And then at the end he goes, there's a couple different times there where he goes, he goes, and there's, we got a lot of fans, I got a lot of fans that are listening. They don't want to hear that. It's like, that is, that's an amazing time. We've never been able to get to that.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Tough one down there, man. Yeah, it's a tough one down there. Like, they've been trying so hard to build it for so long, and you look at it on paper, and you're like, this is pretty. What, D-Buck? I mean, have they been trying hard to build it? Not this offseason. They've been trying hard to do this offseason.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Paid a lot of people. Yeah, he paid, you know, I paid the quarterback, obviously, which rightfully so. Paid CD late, but rightfully so. But what else did you do to the team that approved him really become contenders? Well, he believed in the guys. And he believed in Mike McCarthy. Well, he's only got one year left on his contract. That normally doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:49:38 You just let him fucking figure that out. Okay? What a time to be Jerry Jones. We try to get him on this show a lot. Like, we have tried a try to get him on this show a lot like we've tried a lot to get him on this show luck not no not at all and it's like so is it a no response or is it like he doesn't like you yeah it's kind of a just both we're in their building we're in their stadium for wrestlemania doing our show and we're like this is awesome they were like taking care of us they were so incredibly nice everything was perfectly set up and we're like uh this is awesome. They were taking care of us. They were so incredibly nice. Everything was perfectly set up.
Starting point is 01:50:07 And we're like, hey, how do we go about getting Jarrell? We just sent a request to you. Yeah, send a request to me. It'll be good. We've sent a lot. And we don't know if that thing goes to space. He does a post-game scrum after every game. Those phones are this close to his mouth. Why?
Starting point is 01:50:17 Why are they on top of him so much? Does he like that? It's the only press conference I see where the camera is literally just in the hallway. It's like this close. The video. You're up. Literally just in the hallway. It's like this close. The video. You're up in those veins and the eyeball. You're in there. What are you seeing?
Starting point is 01:50:32 A lot. Pain. A lot. I'm seeing a lot. I'm seeing a lot of vessels. I'm seeing a lot of vessels. We have one minute before the hard out here, so it would be stupid if we started hashtag ask jage we will
Starting point is 01:50:46 do that immediately following this show ending on espn we'll do it on youtube probably smart to take that off the main air you know probably no they're all football questions yeah we got good questions people really they good questions there's a couple in there you know and there's some questions that need to be answered to and there's one particular account that's been asking a question to a lot of people, and nobody responds. And I think you... Your hand. You use your hand. That's what you do. You use your hand, then you wash it.
Starting point is 01:51:11 That's what you do. Okay, that's a nice teaser for hashtag Ask Jake. And I do believe that will be an answer. That will be one of the answers that we will potentially get. What was he talking about there? You never know. Find out. But you could if you watch on youtube espn plus and tick tock
Starting point is 01:51:25 live sports center is on in five minutes we'll be back tomorrow as nfl week seven kicks off cheers right on right on all right ladies and gentlemen at the request of this man we are starting a new segment on this glorious day put out a tweet this morning saying i'm on new heights show today with travis and jason thank you boys for the invite had a great time talking to him went through a lot of things Jason Kelsey buried kickers you know so I had to get in there and stand my ground for a specialist and obviously Jason so I'm just jealous you know it was a good time catching up with Kelsey's there on top of the world thankful to do that but also on this glorious day you get a chance to ask a future hall of famer question wow all you gotta use is the hashtag ask jage and your question could be randomly selected by boston connor to be asked to jage
Starting point is 01:52:14 became a number one trend in the united states that's the type of juice this guy has con man which tweets did you i don't love i don't love connor picking the questions i already don't like to start here what do you mean i thought that was literally the perfect person. I went through my head. Who should be going through these? There's one man and one man alone that is up for the task, and that's Boston Connor. Con man, which hashtag ask Jage questions did you pick?
Starting point is 01:52:36 Yeah, I grabbed a few. There were a lot of good ones, a lot of shit ones, a lot of crop, but still not too shabby. If we could pull them up so I could read them, that would be awesome. Hashtag ask Jage, can you explain to the fans what the difference is between a 3-4 D end and a 4-3 D end, and do you think one is more difficult to play than the other? Jalen Parks, good question, J.
Starting point is 01:52:57 All right. Jalen, legit question. I appreciate it very much. Not how I thought we were going to start this. This is great. Yeah. Come on. Good sag.
Starting point is 01:53:04 It's AskJage. Have is great. Yeah. Come on. Good sag. It's Ash James. Have some faith, brother. All right. So a 3-4 defensive end versus a 4-3 defensive end. A 3-4 defensive end is basically going to line up more inside. So there's only three D linemen, so that means one is lining up over the center. He's the nose guard. And then the other two are going to be lining up probably either just inside the
Starting point is 01:53:26 offensive tackle or head up on the offensive tackle because you're going to have outside linebackers in a 3-4 whereas a 4-3 the end is basically kind of the outside linebackers we're used to so edges so a 3-4 the end is not an edge a 4-3 the end is an edge 3-4 the end is harder to play because generally you're two gapping you, you're playing against bigger guys. You have to do a little bit more inside in the run game, take on more double teams. So I would say a 3-4 defensive end is harder. Hashtag great answer. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Great answer. That was electrifying. Thank you, Jalen, for getting a chance to ask Jage that particular question. What's the next one, Conman? Yeah, fantastic work. The second one from Trey Walpole. Who is one O-lineman or tight end you hated to face, Jage? Hashtag AskJage.
Starting point is 01:54:08 I've told him this, so I don't feel bad saying it, but Lane Johnson and the way that he gets off the ball that quarter second faster than the snap is actually off is an incredible tactic. So I always hated playing against that
Starting point is 01:54:20 because he beats you to the spot. He knows the cadence you don't. He's also extremely athletic he's also extremely strong and agile so very tough offense behind the face what about the heated facing marshall yonda okay marsha yonder oh yeah absolute dog for baltimore for a long time uh obviously lane johnson's timing is better than everybody you didn't mean to say he cheats every time right sound like is what you said there lane Lane's timing. I give him credit. He ain't cheating. He ain't trying.
Starting point is 01:54:45 You got to find a way. He's just playing the game. He ain't cheating. He's just playing the game. And I didn't hear AQ Shipley's name. Did you? No, that's weird. That's the one that I was waiting on.
Starting point is 01:54:55 What happened, AQ? I don't think we ever directly lined up over each other. Yeah, he would slant inside. And blindside you? He did. Going to my knee one time. Remember that? Down in Houston.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Yeah, he did, didn't he? He tried to take you out forever. Yeah, I played the next week on like some of the, you know, MRIs and x-rays like Coach Stig. Coach Stig. It's not like O'Lyman would ever go for anybody's knees.
Starting point is 01:55:18 That's right. You're right. Cup blocks are literally one of the craziest things that are still allowed in the game. Yeah, so every once in a while you've got to throw your head at a ligament in a knee. I mean, they literally target the ligaments.
Starting point is 01:55:31 I've never – we do all these safety things. We talk about all these different things, and yet literally a cut block, the coaching point is put your helmet on his knee. Is that what you guys are coaching over there? What the hell? You guys are coaching over there? This might need to turn into a whole new segment.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Hashtag AskG. He's hashtagging AskG. We can find a million clips of defensive people just trying to absolutely murder offensive linemen. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Victim complex, I get it. But did you... Face mask on face mask. Up top. Yeah, not the knees. We need to know about the coaching point. Yeah, like when the right guard pulls on the counter play and the DN just tries to absolutely saw off the legs of the—
Starting point is 01:56:13 So you can cut and we can't. No, I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying it goes both ways. If we're going to sit here and say that's all O-Lyman do, D-Line do the same stuff. Just like when you watch Houston this past week, they got a big-ass O O-lineman in at fullback And linebacker comes down and he'll Bam! Cuts the shit out of his knee
Starting point is 01:56:29 Can't do that I agree But don't sit here and say that's what O-line do We can't do it on the edge now In fact I'm pretty sure when I was at fullback AJ did that to me AQ, look at AQ You kidding me? I weigh 230 pounds I'm pretty sure when I was at fullback, AJ did that to me. Oh, whoa! Scumbag! AQ, look at AQ.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Are you kidding me? I weighed 230 pounds. I have to cut that dude or I'd die. I probably still don't cut my head off. AQ weighs 230 pounds? Yeah. Last year. Now?
Starting point is 01:56:54 Now. Last year. Oh, you're enjoying food again? Thank God. You were weird. What are you weird about? Yeah, he was. He was getting kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:57:00 I was miserable. Yeah, it was kind of weird. I was miserable. It was like, I'm committing to my health. Okay. I appreciate you doing that. 26 265 270 is a much more fun weight and you look look great yeah that's antonio diggs back there he uh he certainly agrees let's go to the next question hashtag ash j yeah answer the third one so this is the last one actually from greg uh if you're at a friend's house and clogged the toilet and there's no plunger what do you do hashtag ash jay this was the teaser now greg has been asking this question a lot yes he has and uh nobody will give this guy a fucking answer needs one yeah i agree i will okay thank you jay
Starting point is 01:57:41 yeah you roll up your sleeve and you stick that hand down there and you do what you have to do. Then you wash that shit off. You do what you have to do. You don't leave the toilet clogged at your friend's house. You take care of that shit. You wash your hands thoroughly, maybe three or four times. You dry them off and then you go back out to that party. And shake everybody's hand, Greg.
Starting point is 01:57:58 They don't even know what just happened. And if they go up there and bump and clog it, you know what's going to happen? They're going to leave it because they don't have the grit and the job that you do to get in there and grab your own shit. Okay, Greg? That's what you do out there. You find that fucking shit. I'm not doing that. What else are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:58:15 You're just going to leave it? What if you do that and you don't unplug it though, Jay? Jay's got some big mitts. I don't know if he's fitting down there. Find a stick and come back? You could not unplug it and be covered. Jay's got some big mitts. I don't know if he's fitting down Find a stick and come back? You cannot unplug it and be covered poop, brother.
Starting point is 01:58:28 You walk out and you say, dude, someone fucking pinged on it. I think it's my mom. I don't know what the hell happened
Starting point is 01:58:35 in there. That's the move. Yeah. Took you 20 minutes to see it The flood is really a problem. How many flushes
Starting point is 01:58:44 are you doing before you realize there's a real, real problem? Three. I mean, once that water level... So you're flooding the place. No, I'm not flooding. You flush once, you see how high it gets. And you say, okay, I got some room to play with here.
Starting point is 01:58:59 So you're trying again? Yeah, you flush it one more time. So that one, when it gets high, you're like, don't believe it. Yeah, exactly. You say, need a little bit more weight in the water. Sometimes you'll double tap. No, does it ever work? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Sometimes you'll get it with the second. The second one sometimes works. I don't know where you're going with it. That's risky. Well, the third one. Brother. Two, you're sitting right there. Three, you're in hell, brother.
Starting point is 01:59:20 The third one, you hit the third one because that's when you walk out and you say, I had no idea the fucking toilet was clogged. you say i had no idea the toilet was clogged i thought you had a high level i just went to flush it and i guess someone clogged this toilet dude that's the better question if you actually overflow it what do you do like are you just using the towels in there trying to clean it up or are you starting to fire out the window burn the house down jump out the window once you see that thing raise at all, and you are in a place with no plunger, I mean, I feel like as a pooper, you know, I do. I am not scared to poop.
Starting point is 01:59:55 I'll have away games, too. I'm not scared to poop in other places. I have an active bladder, that thing goes. As soon as you see that thing raise and they don't have a plunger, kind on them. Okay? Absolutely. Kind on them. But also, we don't need to try that again. You're at somebody else's house and you guys are double flushing. We've got to normalize plungers
Starting point is 02:00:13 in bathrooms if you're having people over. It's just rude. You only need one of these. Don't use a bunch of them. And you need a plunger. But the strategy, as the shitter at somebody else's house, you go, you flush, you wipe, you flush.
Starting point is 02:00:30 You have to do it. You can't risk. And you're flushing as that thing is in midair. So that thing catches. There's no air time for that. This is the slide? Yeah, you've got to time that up. There's no time for that thing to sit and hang.
Starting point is 02:00:42 You know what's hanging is all shit. You've got to door dash the plunger, honestly. We should make an emergency wallet. That's the move, AJ. I'm with you. There's like an auger you can get on Amazon for like $14. Plungers fucking stink. If you're dropping a big time
Starting point is 02:01:00 shit, which, you know, I've been in this situation plenty of times. Guess what? Plunger ain't doing fucking anything. I don't know. You get one of these augers, I'm telling you, you fucking stick that right down there. Like a snake? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:01:15 What kind of bricks are you dropping? Ty's going back to bladder. Yeah, big time. We're talking massive logs. Thank you for clearing that all up. That was hashtag AshJ. Good work, Connor. Yeah, big time. Big time. We're talking massive vlogs. Anyways, thank you for clearing that all up. That was hashtag Ash J. Good work, Connor.
Starting point is 02:01:29 That was really good. All right, JJ, we'll see you next week. Are you back on CBS this week? I saw they all were taking a lot of shots at you for not showing up to work on a regular basis. Bullshit. They were. They were taking some shots at me. No, I'm not on for like a month, so I'm going to take a lot of shots.
Starting point is 02:01:44 All right, well, enjoy yourself. It was great to see you. You looked good. Then you looked it. Oh, yeah. You looked super good. What color is my suit? Any idea?
Starting point is 02:01:51 It was a blue one, I think. And, boy, the way you wore it last time. Great uniforms. Great uniforms. Yeah, exactly. Best unis. What did you wear this week? Charcoal.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Charcoal. Charcoal suit. Three-piece. Little vest. Wow. Yeah. unis what did you wear this week charcoal charcoal charcoal suit three piece little vest yeah i forgot uh yeah i needed a tie so i grabbed the tie from the wardrobe room and uh it was great costume department will do that for you you're the best this week i saw she was on the set yeah yeah that was really cool you did that was family It was family. She was. That was her first time. It was cool to have her there to see how it all works, see how the sausage is made. It was great. Did Coach Carr bring her strawberry donut? Frosted donut.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Frosted donut. It was a good one this week. A real good one. I enjoyed it. There's two donuts I cannot turn down, man. Maple and strawberry. Those are the two I will not take out. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 02:02:43 We have so many donuts in this office every single week. No more donuts, JJ. I need you in plain shape. Yeah, because you're going to the Lions. It's a great place, man. When I put it out there, people are like, we have lakes. I enjoy lakes. I like Detroit. Detroit's a great city. Good people. Yeah, but then you said you like being retired, too.
Starting point is 02:03:02 But earlier in the year, you said, this is the last year. I mean, it's too early anyway. What, do you think I'm coming off my couch in October? Are you nuts? Who would do that? JJ's Q4. JJ's a Q4 operator. It's next month off. Ladies and gentlemen, the legend,
Starting point is 02:03:17 JJ Wong. Love, JJ. From one legend to another, ladies and gentlemen, the general manager. Okay. I thought he was Love Jage From one legend to another Ladies and gentlemen The general manager Okay Nevermind Okay I thought he was I thought he was waiting there
Starting point is 02:03:30 As we were talking Dumb talk Is that what happened at The hand That's crazy McDaniel's house Yeah with Hersey There's a chance
Starting point is 02:03:38 That he There was no plunger around That's more on McDaniels Than it is on Jim Hersey I thought Hersey Was just shit on the floor To be honest No I think Hersey Wip wiped his ass with like a hand towel
Starting point is 02:03:47 And tried to flush it down the toilet I mean there's chance He probably dampened it a little bit too Not just a drop I don't have my dude wipes Yeah exactly He didn't do that Jim Hersey brought his own dude wipes
Starting point is 02:04:00 Shit in there Sorry about it I would like to enjoy the meal I'm going to clear some room. No plunger anywhere. He was trying to figure it out. I think he was hands in there. He might have been. He might have been. He might have had to wash his hands, maybe.
Starting point is 02:04:13 It depends on which way the story goes, which one you believe. He did wash his hands afterwards. Pinching McDaniel's wife's cheeks afterwards. I thought he gave her a hug. He just wiped his hands on the back of her shirt. Pinching the kid's cheeks, too. Pinching the kid's cheeks and rubbing her head. For those that don't know, this is a real story.
Starting point is 02:04:32 We don't know if it went this way, but could have. You can't assume. Could have. We're just exploring the space of the opportunity of the story that we've been told to be true of why Mike Daniels was the Colts head coach and that he wasn't the head coach. There's a situation brewing. Speaking of situations brewing, yesterday one popped up quickly out of nowhere.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Amari Cooper is now a member of the Buffalo Bills. Ladies and gentlemen, the man that made that trade, the general manager of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Bean. Yeah! Bean, thank you so much for joining us. We've been in the middle of some absurd conversations. This gets us back on track. We're thankful for some absurd conversations. This gets us back on track. We're thankful for that.
Starting point is 02:05:07 Always glad to get you back on track. I don't know if I'm the right guy for that, but I'll do my best. You have to be. We were talking about – Wait, did you hear something? Yeah. What did you hear? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot going on, Bean.
Starting point is 02:05:20 All right, let's dive in. Huge move yesterday. Amari Cooper becomes a Buffalo Bill. I think it's like a seventh or sixth and then a third. You get it. There was some movement. And my immediate reaction to this deal was, wow, didn't know this was possible to get Amari Cooper for a third-round pick,
Starting point is 02:05:38 seemingly. And then also, what a win for the Buffalo Bills in this offense. You guys are sitting in four and two. You're leading the AFC East. Massive win on Monday. And then bang, next day you make a trade. How long has this been a thought that you need to add a weapon? When did you know Amari was potentially available?
Starting point is 02:05:53 And how easy of a decision is that for you to make for your team? Yeah, I mean, we've definitely been monitoring. People kept tabbing us to Devontae Adams once that situation kind of reared in Vegas a couple of weeks ago that he was looking for a new home and they seemed open to it. At the same time, we were having conversations quietly with a couple other teams, just seeing where they were at. Every team's kind of in different spots, you know, and sometimes it's, hey, if, you know, if we can win this week, we want to hang in there. We're only a game back or two games back. So definitely had some conversations with Cleveland. And, you know, Andrew Berry's a great dude.
Starting point is 02:06:32 We've done deals before. And so we talked last week. And then after that, we played with us playing on Monday night, them playing Sunday. We talked again on Sunday night after their game. He was still trying to decide. You know, no team wants to give a player away, but you're also looking at the now and the future.
Starting point is 02:06:50 And so talked to him Monday again, Sunday night, again Monday. And then ultimately I told him let's touch base after our game, you know, Tuesday morning, and things got hot and heavy yesterday morning. Okay, does the Devontae trade expedite anything anything or did you not really know that that had taken place by the time these starts really got hot and heavy shall we say on Tuesday morning yeah I mean by the time we heard Devontae was done we were at the finish line we were down to those last arguing the six versus the seven of this year that year, but we felt good about it. I think they felt good about it.
Starting point is 02:07:27 I had, you know, talking to our ownership, Andrew had spoken to his. So we were almost there, and a couple hours later, you know, we got it done. Okay, so the Jets trade for Devontae Adams, everybody's saying they're going all in. They're going all in this year. You guys trade for Amari Cooper. What is this message for this particular season with this team, Dean? Yeah, I mean, listen, we're still all in. They're going all in this year. You guys trade for Amari Cooper. What is this message for this particular season with this team, Dean? Yeah, I mean, listen, we're still all in. If this didn't happen, if Cleveland was not ready to do it, we were going to continue to monitor. And
Starting point is 02:07:54 listen, we still got a few weeks for the deadline. If we feel there's something else that we need or can help us get over the top, we're, you know, we have been all in all along. I know we lost some I know we lost some names this offseason, some guys who have been captains. This was kind of what I said was an offseason of transition. But the mindset here, as long as Josh Allen's our quarterback, is we're going to try and win this thing, and we're going to do what we can every single year. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ. I guess how many people maybe are involved in the last week or so, and how many people
Starting point is 02:08:26 know that you're talking to Amari Cooper and it's close to you? Even, like, do you talk to Josh Allen? Is he aware of it before it happens? And what do you think their connection will be like? Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty low-key, AJ. I don't, I keep it pretty low. Josh will prod me here and there. I may throw a name to and just say,
Starting point is 02:08:45 just I'm looking. Don't get your hopes up. What if he takes back trash? What if he says, crop, crop, I don't want it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:53 Then I tell him, just go do his job and let me do mine. There you go. He's pretty good at his job, way better than I am at mine, but we got a good relationship like that. He loves to give input. He loves to hear, but he also knows he's not studying the film,
Starting point is 02:09:09 and so he always has a good perspective on the deals we can do and sometimes the deals we can't do. Let's talk about what he brings to your team. Hembo sent over some stats. I think his average touchdown length is like 27.5 yards or something like that. I forget what it is for Amari Cooper, but it's through the roof. He's able to score from everywhere. He's an explosive player, big catch radius, not scared to go up in traffic to do that. Why is Amari Cooper the one that you brought to your team? And since when did you realize maybe we do need to add another weapon? You know, this team without
Starting point is 02:09:41 Stephon Diggs this year, first time, when did you start peeking around thinking maybe you need a new weapon and why Amari Cooper yeah I mean uh we'll start with Amari there Pat it's just um he's a guy I've always admired from afar when I was in Carolina and he came out in 2015 actually went out uh to Alabama with Ricky Pearl our receiver coach and uh Amari was not going to work out but um you know we were we were not picking as high as he got picked. But you always want to do your due diligence. So we spent probably two hours watching film with him, took him out to dinner, and really got a feel for his love of ball, his understanding of football, super football smart, passionate.
Starting point is 02:10:19 We opened some of his practice film at Bama, and he broke it down for us. And I left there going, man, this guy would be a great addition. Obviously, the Raiders took him, I think, like number three or number four overall that year. So I've really just been watching his career from afar. And you never know when an opportunity is going to strike like this. And so just the timing of him going into his last year, Cleveland, where they're at. And we had to work it in. Luckily, as you mentioned, we found a guy who they had already restructured his deal.
Starting point is 02:10:50 We're tight on the cap. And so that made this a more doable deal for us than, say, a Devontae Adams or some of the other guys that I may have been looking at. And as far as adding a weapon for us, I'm always looking. You're always trying to how can you make it better. It's not just a collection for us. I'm always looking. You're always trying to, how can you make it better? It's not just a collection of talent. It's got to fit within the team and the scheme of what you're doing. And so this is, you know, I look at kind of your weapons as like a basketball team. Who's going to play the point guard? Who's going to be your forward? Who's going to be your center?
Starting point is 02:11:18 Just another piece for Josh and Joe Brady to kind of throw into the mix. And, you know, he's going to have to get up to speed on our offense. You know, we'll get him in the game this week. But beyond that, you know, it'll be how quick he can kind of get things up to speed here. A package for him until he figures it all out. I think Buffalo Bills fans are going to be pumped to see him go on the field any moment over there. And if I'm a Buffalo Bills fan, anytime I've heard you speak, I'd be excited. On our show, we've asked you before about these types of things and being active,
Starting point is 02:11:48 and you're like, oh, I'll snoop around. Yeah, I'm not above making a call. And then all of a sudden, boom, Amari Cooper, after a massive division win on a Monday Night Football, 4-2 leading division, we're adding in there. Bills Mafia, you've got an aggressive team. That's a beautiful thing. Now, to make that move, a lot of decisions have to be made.
Starting point is 02:12:06 AQ has a question for you, Bean. Yeah, it seems like a no-brainer to offer a third-round pick for Amari or Devontae Adams, and I don't understand why every team doesn't do that. But it's always fascinating to me why you give up the whole farm to move up four picks in the first round. What is the threshold when you're going to make a trade on, you know, is it a third-round pick, is it a second-round pick,
Starting point is 02:12:27 and what does the process go into that? Yeah, I mean, great question, AQ. Everyone's kind of got its own dynamic. What's the cap ramifications? What's the cash? How many years do you have? And, you know, what does next year's draft look like? What do you already have?
Starting point is 02:12:43 With the Stephon Diggs move, we added an extra two coming into this draft. So we have a one, two, twos. And so I kind of looked at it as we're still going to get three picks in the first three rounds. It's just going to be actually in the first two. And, you know, this past year, last year we were really beat up at corner during the season. And so we had to move. beat up at corner during the season and so we had to move uh we did a pick swap of moving our third with a fifth with green bay to get rasul douglas who helped us down the stretch and then this this past draft i figured out a way to get that third back we moved back a little bit uh used the third
Starting point is 02:13:17 and it turned out to be dwayne carter who's who's played a lot of minutes for us this year at d tackle so i'm also going man i'm a competitive dude, AQ. Like if there's somebody that we think we're going to like in the third, I'll try and move back again in one of those three picks to still possibly pick a third rounder next year. Bean, we get so confused, though. My immediate response to that trade yesterday was, this feels like a heist, was actually what I said.
Starting point is 02:13:43 But it feels like players all feel differently than the people that are doing the selections. It seems like GMs and personnel and everybody like those draft picks are worth so much. And we, as players in a locker room have seen so many players just be bus, just like not work out.
Starting point is 02:13:57 And the numbers are very high for the amount of don't work out players that get drafted in, let alone the first round. That number is very high. Second, third, fourth, fifth, all of them. But people hold on to them. Like it is a massive – when you get a proven player, for us it's like an easy decision.
Starting point is 02:14:13 Like Randy Moss was what, a fourth round pick or something? Yeah. And I was like, I think what they like, what? Randy Moss, a fourth round pick? Is that something whenever you're talking to other GMs about how much they value draft picks? And why is that? That's because like the hope of what that person can become yeah I mean every pick's got its
Starting point is 02:14:29 own value let's say but I'm with you uh we probably sometimes overvalue because a known commodity is um you know is super important and I think in this I'm more willing to do it now you know as you said we're four and two we got a two-game lead um for a known commodity versus in the spring when the drafts you know upcoming unless i just feel like it's going to be a weak draft or there's not going to be depth in the round that i'm that i'm potentially moving a pick so i think it's a fair point to say you know maybe we do over volume sometimes but you know there's also the analytics world that says every time you you select a player it's like a swing an at bat you know using a baseball term and so I think
Starting point is 02:15:11 people are saying hey how many if I get eight at bats nine at bats ten at bats maybe I'm going to hit three or four because we all get we're all issued seven at bats every draft right and then you know but you know right now we're projected to have, if the comp formula falls its way, we're still hoping to have 10 at-bats this year. So you're going to have 10 at-bats and you have Amari Cooper. Okay. Okay. That seems like bullshit, doesn't it?
Starting point is 02:15:38 Doesn't it? That seems like a bunch of bullshit. It does. Aaron Judge, speaking of at-bat, didn't he hit one last night? Yeah, he did. He's back. Aaron Judge is all the way back. Slump is over. Okay, congratulations to the Yankees
Starting point is 02:15:48 fans. I know that was a big deal. You talked about bringing in Razul Douglas. Sorry, we just had to have a baseball conversation in the middle of that. That's on you. I like baseball. We're good. I like baseball. Have you been watching this playoff? It's insane, right? There's more Grand Slams, I think, at this time than ever in the
Starting point is 02:16:03 past. Five is the most that's ever happened. There's already been four, and we're not even to the World Series yet. It's like, it's electrifying, Dean. Electrifying. No, October baseball is awesome. I grew up a Braves fan, diehard Braves fan, and where I reside now, there's a ton of Mets fans. So I've been getting a lot of shit for the Mets out doing them. Mets fans, so I've been getting a lot of shit for the Mets out doing them.
Starting point is 02:16:28 We usually own the Mets, but this year we fell short, so I've been having to eat some crow here, Pat. They're talking Subway World Series potentially, Mets and Yankees. Come on. I don't know. It feels like that would be something you would have to try to get to. The rest of the country will care? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Really? I think I'll care more if it's Mets, Yanke just – I mean, it's just so rare for that to happen. Obviously, Yankees-Dodgers would be huge too. I mean, if it's not the Pirates bringing in the ratings, I guess it would be the Yankees. That's true. You know that, Bean. You know that.
Starting point is 02:16:54 You talked about Russell Douglas in the secondary a little bit. D-Butt's got a question for you. Yeah, Bean, obviously you lost a ton of leadership in that room with Hyde, Poirier, Trey White moving on. So there's questions in that room and obviously on the wide receiver room, you talked about that as well. How do you feel about the secondary now? Coming off, obviously, a huge game. I think rap play, unbelievable, very physical in the back end, Monday Night Football. Teron Johnson, one of my favorite slot defenders, obviously had the game-winning interception. How do you feel
Starting point is 02:17:20 about that group as a whole going forward? Yeah, i think you you just nailed the uh you just answered it for me there great job um no get we terrence been out he broke his uh he had a forearm fracture the very first series of the season versus arizona so we missed him i mean cam lewis really did an admirable job but you know terrence uh you know former all pro for us and um a guy that is as losing Micah and Jordan and Trey White, a guy who's been here since 2018, played a lot of snaps for us. And a big play he made the other night, because that game was definitely still in the balance with us only having a three-point lead at that point.
Starting point is 02:17:59 It was an unbelievable play that he made. And, you know, then we obviously sealed on offense. And Taylor Rapp was out the week before, got a concussion in the Baltimore game. We missed him. Brought to physicality. He was bringing the wood the other night. And just having those two guys out there, Rasul Douglas, he's been a great leader since we got him almost a year ago.
Starting point is 02:18:20 And still got some young guys, Christian Benford. DeMar's been playing a lot of safety for us. We've still got a blend of some youth with some vets back there. We're going to need those guys as we go forward. That wouldn't have been a pick at the end there for Taron, though, if old buddy would have been on the red line.
Starting point is 02:18:36 Yeah, exactly. You got lucky. You kind of stole one there. Taron might have got to the red line. You never know. Oh! We saw the play. He did flip them hips. I'm going might have got to the red line. You never know. Oh! We saw the red. He did flip them hips. I'm going to have to check his combine 40. We're going to have to see.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Taren can roll. He housed one 100 yards a few years ago in the playoffs. He might have got there. What if he does get there? That'd be crazy. We would. We'll never know. Will we?
Starting point is 02:19:02 Nope. There will always be an excuse that can lay out there. Speaking of an excuse, you could have made one whenever, you know, let James Cook, he's allowed in the kitchen because of an injury. Then all of a sudden he gets some backup running backs that go bananas. Go ahead, Con Man. Yeah, Brandon, how about on Monday night Ray Davis kind of sliding in there and just going bananas in prime time for you guys? And when that happens, do you kind of walk around the office
Starting point is 02:19:24 with a little bit more swagger because you're like hey how about that draft pick bitch how look at that look at ray davis who brought that guy you know yeah me me no because i know somebody on point right in my back of my face some draft pick that i whipped on so uh smart smart you know humble pie is always right around the corner but But, no, selfishly, Ray is just an unbelievably humble kid, man. He just comes to work every day, doesn't say anything. I loved his film in Kentucky. And when we drafted him, the play I was telling the media about was not a run play.
Starting point is 02:19:58 It was actually a pass pro play. They were playing Vanderbilt. And he just leveled this backer coming on a blitz that was a free runner. And just the physicality he brings, he's great in pass pro. It was fun to see him. And I think our own line really fed off that first drive, you know, just kind of, you know, running as successful as we did
Starting point is 02:20:17 and started with that touchdown. And how about the – yeah, you just showed the highlight, that catch he made. Yeah, why is he all the way down there? What's he doing all the time? How did he get there? Well, the best was he was waving his arms the whole time, and Josh saw him. It was kind of cool.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Your team's fun to watch, man. You put together a tough team, a fun team. Obviously, Josh Allen is a massive piece of that. But on defense aside, having to figure it out as you go through these different iterations of the Buffalo Bills, it's going to be fun to watch your brain work and watch your entire personnel team and scouting department do their thing. Congrats on a massive trade yesterday.
Starting point is 02:20:48 Congrats on leading the AFC East, and good luck the rest of the way, brother. Appreciate you guys, man. Always fun to be out here. Is there snowing yet up here in Buffalo? No, we just got a few flurries tomorrow, but other than that, we're great. Hey, it's Buffalo football. How are the Buffaloes?
Starting point is 02:21:03 Are the courses still open? Yes, we still got about a month. Okay, last round. Last round that you have. How are you shooting this year? Not as good. I was better a year ago. I would have lost.
Starting point is 02:21:16 I didn't break 80. I know you call me a sandbagger, but I did not break 80 in my three rounds at Oak Hill this year. So I would have lost this year. Okay, so sounds like you're maybe lying, right? This would be the sandbagging portion of the entire thing. I'm trying to set it up so you don't move the number on me next year. Yeah, well, are you going to play anymore until the weather breaks? No.
Starting point is 02:21:40 You can't, football. No, this job gets in the way a little bit. Well, you're doing a great job at it. And thank God we don't have to lose any more money because this guy's sandbagging the shit out of us. All right, ladies and gentlemen, general manager for the Buffalo Bills, Brandon B. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Yeah, Brandon. All right, let's take a break. On the other side, we'll do AQs in the trenches. Top five, top five, top five, top five. Top five. Okay. Performing offensive lines from week six of the NFL season. What a move by him
Starting point is 02:22:08 and that Bills team, man. He gets it. He seems to really get it. I bet his players, they have to love that dude. I think he's very transparent, too. I think he says a lot. He's around. He's a great communicator, which is huge in that profession. Him just letting
Starting point is 02:22:23 me and Mad Mel hang out in their suite at the Combine. That was sweet. So cool. Yeah, it was very cool. We're just eating their food. Yep. Bullshitting with him, asking him questions about guys. He's breaking everything down.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Like, some guys we really like, we would like to see them drop a ball or two here. So that other people don't like them. You know, like, if you watch enough film on somebody and you like them at the combine not necessarily want them to do great because then yeah like that was an interesting thing he said and then we're watching some people and somebody drops a ball i think it was keel yeah and somebody drops ball and it's like almost like a yeah yeah maybe a few more slow 42 yeah i like that yes everybody else and then there's other people that he's watching he's like who is that who was and then some whoever's the scout people He's watching He's like Who is that Who is And then Whoever's the scout
Starting point is 02:23:06 That scouts that person Is like bang Amount of yards they had How they are in school How the team likes them Like in the moment It was He was very hospitable to us
Starting point is 02:23:14 And he was mad bell The entire time Yeah Let me tell you B You need another weapon What are you doing Yeah
Starting point is 02:23:22 Putting up with that shit While you This is actually A very important part of the job. Very important day for him. Ty's got his hair snicked back. Bean, you don't know. Let me tell you what you need to do.
Starting point is 02:23:34 Oh, man. Amazing stuff. All right. AQ's top five performing offensive lines. Then he'll try to give away some money. What are you going to do today? Are you going to shoot a basketball? Throw a football?
Starting point is 02:23:42 What are you going to do? I got to stick with the football. He's got to win. Got to win. Yeah. Don't have to stick with? Are you going to shoot a basketball, throw a football? What are you going to do? I got to stick with the football. He's got to win. Got to win. Yeah. Don't have to stick with the thing you're not winning. Stick with the football. Okay.
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Starting point is 02:25:20 good D, bad D, dare I say, ballers. And a man who is a 12-year NFL vet, player coach, Jackie Moon for Tampa Bay, Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shipley is here. A.Q. A.Q.'s, listen, we've had a fantastic Wednesday. Have we not, A.J.? It's been amazing. Can't wait. Best part's coming up, though. Coach
Starting point is 02:25:37 Monken in the first hour for Army Undefeated tells us about the boys in the next generation. That's what I took from that one. That's right. And then Sig Sig Daddy comes in and teaches us basically the Big and the next generation. That's what I took from that one. That's right. And then Sig Sig Daddy comes in and teaches us, basically, the Big Ten has a problem on their hands. And it's the Indiana University Hoosier football team. Yeah. Then last hour, we asked Jage a lot of questions,
Starting point is 02:25:55 including a very, very pertinent one, about what happens when you dump at a friend's house, clog the toilet, and there's no plunger. Yeah. Jage had it figured out. He said you roll up your sleeves and you stick your hand down in there and you grab shit and you mix it up simple you finger it if you got it yeah it's right like ceramics yep i mean yeah you know how in cpr grab
Starting point is 02:26:18 a toothbrush and chunk it up before you put your fingers in there yeah somebody it's friend's house throw it away and door dash him a new toothbrush. Maybe five new toothbrushes. I think this guy relies too much on door dash. His brain goes to door dash right away. That's the right move. Imagine if we got a brand new toothbrush all of a sudden. That'd be a nice little gift, nice little treat.
Starting point is 02:26:38 Smells like poop in here, but I got a brand new toothbrush. That is good news. But you know how they say CPR? It's uh, uh, uh, uh. Stayin good news. But you know how they say CPR? It's, ah, ah, ah, ah, staying alive, staying alive, ah, ah, ah, ah, staying alive. Do you stop there? Yeah. Ah, ah, ah, ah, staying alive. Don't stop, they'll die
Starting point is 02:27:06 But the song though You gotta let them breathe And then the fingering of the poop, I think it's the same Stay alive Stay alive It'll get with all you guys doing it People have had this question for a long time It's never coming out of your fingernails
Starting point is 02:27:27 You absolutely do not address it on your own You don't If there are multiple people there Even if there aren't You leave and say Jesus Christ your dad must have fucking clogged the toilet I don't know what the hell You don't ever try to do it yourself
Starting point is 02:27:39 What are you going to do if you really fuck something up And then they need a new toilet My first response whenever I read it was, I'm out of here. That was my first time. It's been a good party. You guys are really doing it. How about people who add on to the top layer?
Starting point is 02:27:56 People that pee into the clogged toilet. That is certainly a move. It depends because if they're big time logs and you're trying to cut them in half. Why are you looking at me? Because you're peeing in a non-flush toilet for months. All day. But I don't pee in the top of the toilet. What?
Starting point is 02:28:09 You're talking about upper deckers? Who the fuck? You're upper decking. He's definitely an upper decker. What? You ever hear about upper deckers? No, I have not, thankfully. Top shelf?
Starting point is 02:28:18 Yeah. Darius has had a lot of questionable moments. Top bins? You never? Yeah, it was some conversation to take this point of that never ripped off me no i have not you ever done an upper decorative rentals come on i learned about nature's tylenol here i learned well before all that let's finish up the poop talk so the whites okay they uh they will poop in the back side of the toilet yeah you know the
Starting point is 02:28:43 water tank lift it up and it's a water tank. You know, the part where you have to do that. Just zany wipes. It's a prank, man. Zany wipes will do it. You know, because you go in there and it smells like poop and then you open the thing
Starting point is 02:28:56 and there's no poop in it. Oh, man. It's like poop in the bathroom. Like, shit. In the toilet. Somebody poop in the bathtub? Yeah. But actually, it's in the back.
Starting point is 02:29:05 Nobody expects it. How do you even get to scoop it out? You need to get to scoop it out. That's a horrific stench. That's actually from Dude Wipes. Shout out. Yeah, and the thing about them is, you know, because that water, whenever you flush it from that part, empties.
Starting point is 02:29:19 So that poop is just sitting on a wall in there all by itself with no water. And then it comes back, and guess what it does to that next batch of water next batch of water contaminates you that's right and then that water goes in the toilet so you got poop in toilet and in the back and you're thinking yourself where's this poop that's what the whites started doing to each other yeah it's a good prank it is i have it's a great prank if it not you, if it's not your toilet, it's... I have been at a party where it has happened
Starting point is 02:29:47 and I have been... One of the people walked in because I have an active bladder of two pissing going, smells like shit in here and then just piss and then leave
Starting point is 02:29:56 and then potentially run into Zany White that did it and goes, have you been to the bathroom? I go, yeah, it smells like shit.
Starting point is 02:30:03 He goes, that was me. I go, what do you mean that was me? He goes, Upper Decker, brother. I go, why would you do that? We love the person that was hosting the party. Funny all the time, isn't it? It's funny. And then just walk away.
Starting point is 02:30:15 That's why I'm Wonderful Whites, bro. You learn something every day. Yeah, I mean. Try it, D-Bart. No, I don't think I'm trying. You should. You got to have real precision, too. It's a real commitment.
Starting point is 02:30:25 You should lift those cheeks up. And then you... There's no report of your D-Bart. You can't flush when you wipe your ass. So you shit in the top, wipe your ass, flush the toilet. So you got shit water in the
Starting point is 02:30:41 toilet at this point. Bingo. If you're doing an upper decker in someone's house, what you're doing after you wipe your ass is the least you're concerned. You might just be throwing that on the floor and just saying, hey, they can deal with that too. And they'll think that's the answer, actually. So, I mean, there's just levels to this. It's terrible.
Starting point is 02:30:55 I've never done it. I think it should be. I assume it's stopped. Oh, I don't know. Kids these days are crazy. Somebody's going to be doing it now. But I don't know. Edgar Allen Poe's out there doing it.
Starting point is 02:31:07 We missed that. A lot of people said we missed that journalistic standards. We didn't ask Devante what the Edgar Allen Poe thing was about. Well, I wouldn't want to bring it back up anyways because he might fucking go back into some sicko mode that he was in when he posed. Oh, you're talking because Edgar Allen Poe is... Yeah. Sick fuck.
Starting point is 02:31:23 That's all I know of him. I just want to let you know that. The way you have portrayed him is how I am going to. That's all I know of him. I just want to let you know that. The way you have portrayed him is how I am going to think about him for the rest of my life. I mean, and I would be completely accurate because people have been tweeting me some shit about Edgar Alan Poe. Turns out he's way sicker of a fuck than I've even been portraying him.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Maybe Edgar Alan Poe was the reason he didn't want to go to Ravens. Anybody thought about that? Yeah, maybe he looked into him a little bit. He posted that and was like, have you guys heard about this fucking guy? Sick fuck. He's a sick fuck? He's the sickest ever give me the jets brother never mind all right the ravens might be on this particular sec oh but this has been a fun thing to do each week you know we kind of we've done in the trenches for so long this year we wanted to spice it up a little bit we thought thought, you know, we need to reward
Starting point is 02:32:06 some of these big guys that never get rewarded much. They never ask for it. They never say, hey, what about me? Give me an award. So we'll do it for them. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time. Coming out of the week six of the NFL season to award the in the trenches A.Q. Shipley
Starting point is 02:32:21 top five performing offensive line. A.Q. Alright, A.Q. Shipley, top five, performing offensive line. There we go. All right, A.Q., who's number five? Perfect segue into the Baltimore A-line. Wow. How about it? Let me say some stats real quick. 176 yards, 198, 277, 228, 184 yards rushing this week.
Starting point is 02:32:45 That's our top five offensive line. Whoa. We're moving the rock on the ground. We are running the shit out of the ball. And the Baltimore Ravens ran for 176, which is a great day any other day. Let's watch this play. This is awesome. So they run one by three.
Starting point is 02:32:57 One by three means you put the tight end into the boundary. You get the passing strength. Three receivers opposite. So they got Mark Andrews right there. Split out just a tad. Normally says something to the defensive end, get the passing strength. Three receivers opposite. So they got Mark Andrews right there. Split out just a tad. Normally says something to the defensive end, but not this guy. We get the little crack toss. We're going to get the down block.
Starting point is 02:33:12 We're going to pull the guard. And then check this out. You get Falele out in space. You get the back as the extra blocker when you got the QB. And how big of a hole is that, boys? How good is that? Lamar Jackson off to the races. Off to the races.
Starting point is 02:33:27 This was the biggest run the Ravens had that day. They also, we could have put the other play on, which was the crack toss that we've seen over and over and over again that they keep running to Derrick Henry with Patrick Picard as the lead blocker. They hit that for 30 in this game as well. But look at that hole. We're going to see some big holes today. We already saw some from Detroit.
Starting point is 02:33:44 We're going to see them all day. This is unbelievable. They ran the shit out of it. Everybody did this week. It was awesome. Congrats to the Baltimore Ravens seemingly being a mainstay on the In the Trenches top bottom. I was going to say, Pilele, they were saying three weeks ago on Overreaction Monday, hey,
Starting point is 02:33:56 you could take this fatso and his blubber could feed all of Somalia. They're not saying it anymore. A lot. Not anymore. Remember that? That was one of the rudest tweets we've ever seen. For week one. And now they're top five, top five, top five.
Starting point is 02:34:08 Who's number four this week, A.Q.? This is the Atlanta Falcons. Wow. Yeah. And let me say this before we get into this play. This I have never seen before. Dan Orlovsky talked about it yesterday, but I saw this whenever I watched the film back on Monday,
Starting point is 02:34:23 and I started calling everybody. I was like, this is unbelievable. Do you guys remember a couple years ago when San Fran started making that play pretty famous where they'd have Kittle and Juszczyk as the two tight ends? They'd send someone in motion, somebody hard reaches, and then Juszczyk or Kittle, whoever the puller is, slams Vaughn Miller out as he climbs the line. Blindside, yeah. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:34:41 So now they do the exact same concept, but they do it to the three technique. Let's watch number 93 as this tight end goes in motion. See 93? Over the right guard, Chris Lindstrom. Now watch this. Instead of doing it to the defensive end, we're going to do it to the three technique. Boys, just watch this. Watch out.
Starting point is 02:34:57 Oh, man. And then we climb on the mic, and you get one of the biggest holes you'll see all year long. Look at that. There's a 15-yard gap. They don't even block the safety there, which, honestly, they probably could have pushed to him, and you have a hat for a hat. But in this case, this is unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:35:13 Hit that and then climb on the mic back, and you get a hole the size of Texas. Well, AJ said second and seven. I thought he was going to get much more. It was a beautiful blocking scheme. Good job getting over the mic after you ran that little, almost like a trap situation. But, yeah, I thought he should get more yards. It was a good scheme. It's second getting over the mic after you ran that little, almost like a trap situation. But, yeah, I thought he should get more yards.
Starting point is 02:35:27 It was a good scheme. It's second and seven, though, is what everybody said. I mean, I agree. But, listen, they did this all game long. And they had 200 yards rushing. Bijon had 90 or something. And Algier had 105, I think. I think it was 105 and 95.
Starting point is 02:35:39 That's a good scheme there. The Falcons are getting creative, Don. I'm going to tell you, that play right there is going to change the course for the rest of the season for every team. Every team is going to copy that one, and they're going to find a way, because the hardest thing is, you know, you can chip the defensive ends in pass pro. The hardest thing is how you chip a three technique, right?
Starting point is 02:35:56 Nobody's doing it. So this is going to be a way to get play action involved, and just absolutely blindside three techniques, which is going to be awesome for offense alignment. You're seeing it's a copycat league. Everybody's going to start doing this, and we're going to see some. Look at us. I feel educated.
Starting point is 02:36:10 So whenever that game kicks off, 9.30 a.m. on Sunday. That's right. Patriots versus the Jaguars. Let's keep an eye out for maybe a little cross crack to the three technique that hasn't happened. That's right. And then it's probably going to be everywhere. It's going to be everywhere. Pats will do it. This is going to be everywhere. Pats will do it.
Starting point is 02:36:25 This is going to be everywhere. And I'm surprised San Fran didn't figure this out because they're still doing it, and they're still hitting the ends. I'm surprised they haven't figured this one out. I assume they will know going forward. Who's the number three offensive line performing from this past week? The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Wow.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Favoritism. 277 yards rushing. You tell me if it's favoritism. Boom! Oh! Oh! Pretty, pretty damn good. And welcome to the NFL, Mr. Sean Tucker, second-year player out of Syracuse.
Starting point is 02:36:54 We're going to run the guard-tackle counter right to Cam Jordan, right? We get the kick out on the first one. False start. You get big Tristan Wirfs pulling up inside on Demario Davis. And you get another big gaping hole. And then he does the rest of the work, gets to the outside, Miller running downfield, getting blocks downfield. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:37:13 Look at the effort. Look at the hustle. Look at the buy-in. That's Tampa Bay Buccaneer football. It was a close one early, 27-24-ish or something like that. Get Saints up. And then Bucs just kind of flipped the switch and went crazy and stuck with the run game, obviously.
Starting point is 02:37:25 They ran the shit out of it. It was 17-0, I think, to start the game. Then it goes 20-17 the other way, and then they flipped it on its head and obviously put up 51 points, boys. Okay. That's a fun play to watch. Pretty cool, right? Werfs is a beast.
Starting point is 02:37:41 Werfs is a dog. It's a five-yard penalty. What are you talking about? Did it get called? Did it get called? It didn't get called. It doesn't matter. What do you mean? When is the ball stamped? Ready?
Starting point is 02:37:55 Big shout out to my guy, Robert Hainsey. Back in the starting lineup, too. Great snap from Hainsey. Right in the chest right there. Good back block. Wall off. Beautiful. Who's the number two performing offensive line from week six of the NFL season? They keep going up and down, but they are back up this week. San Francisco 49ers.
Starting point is 02:38:12 Whoa. Congrats to the Niners. Doesn't matter who they put at running back. We talked about this earlier. They run the shit out of it. When Mason's in, he breaks this early. Garendo goes in later in the game. He breaks it for 76 with a heads-up play.
Starting point is 02:38:24 Sliding down. But let's watch. Kittle's going to motion over. They're going to get the other tight end down. this early. Garando goes in later in the game. He breaks it for 76 with a heads-up play sliding down, but let's watch. Kittle's going to motion over. They're going to get the other tight end down, so you get a tight end wing into the boundary, and then you're going to run a little zone scheme right here, right? When you run this zone scheme, Iyuk's going to arc release. You go out, out. Trent Williams does what Trent does. Let's watch. First, let's watch Kittle get on Julian Love. I posted this on X earlier in the week. This is unbelievable. He climbs. You get Kittle on Julian Love. Good on good.
Starting point is 02:38:50 Let's focus in there. Run. Barry! Put him in the ground. Jeez Louise! Awesome stuff. It's tough. You get great blocks across the board. That's a tough look, right? Banks, left guard, does a great job climbing. You watch the center get a great reach.
Starting point is 02:39:05 Watch Pooney, Dominic Pooney, third-round pick out of Kansas. He's solidified their offensive line. Trent's speaking super highly of that. Poone, man. Number 77 gets up on the backside. He's the one that makes this go. Look at the backside cutoff. There it is.
Starting point is 02:39:17 You see Butch. You see Butch. You see a nice big hole, and then Mason breaks attack when he's off for 70. See ya. See ya. See ya. Go, Poonie. He said the Niners' offense is system, yeah, but for the running back, not for the quarterback. Something to think about.
Starting point is 02:39:31 You see it. Quarterback has to make plays in the system. Running back, though, the system is going to give you opportunity. That's right. Especially because of the way those boys block. I think you said what? George Kittle is the best blocking tight end of all time. I think he's the best blocking tight end.
Starting point is 02:39:43 I think he's maybe the best all-around tight end in the game right now. Remind you, I mean, he's like Gronk. Gronk used to block his ass off, right? I was going to say. I mean, it's the same thing. Especially against the Colts. He threw some people away. Which guys?
Starting point is 02:39:58 Anybody who came near him. Yeah, no, we don't. But anybody who came near him. Okay. Sounded like you had a story you wanted to tell. Is that what you wanted to do? I mean, I got a few, but. Hey, Gronk in that.
Starting point is 02:40:09 In the Aaron Hernandez show. That actor. Really good. That guy's unbelievable. Actually deserves an Oscar. Every clip I see from that, I think to myself, I should watch it. Seems like they casted it pretty damn good right here. Yeah, Belichick also.
Starting point is 02:40:21 We should show Bill clips of that next week. Believe me. Heard that guy floated. Yeah, the whole time. It was like, come on, come on, come on, come on We should show Bill clips of that next week. Believe me, Zito the whole time was like, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. Clip ready if you need it. But if we bring up that, then we've got to bring up the topic, then we've got to go into a full thing, you know, and it's like, I don't want to be the guy that does it. I just need to know if he
Starting point is 02:40:37 did say two tight ends, fullback offset to the strength. Nobody's ever fucking done that before. Alright, let's go let's go Let's go Number one performing offensive line From week six of the NFL season In the trenches A.Q. Shipley
Starting point is 02:40:51 You say Detroit Lions These guys are unbelievable I almost feel like they're just Fucking with the rest of the NFL It's like hey like We're gonna run this play We wanna get Penny Sewell
Starting point is 02:41:04 A little reward We're gonna throw a hook and ladder Hey next series Let's make this a Gibbs series Next series with the rest of the NFL. It's like, hey, we're going to run this play. We want to get Pene Sewell a little reward. We're going to throw a hook and ladder. Hey, next series, let's make this a Gibbs series. Next series, let's make this a Montgomery series. Until they get into a muddy game, they can just keep doing this because Ben Johnson keeps dialing it up. Let's take a look at center Frank Ragnow playing with a torn pec, mind you, everybody.
Starting point is 02:41:19 You can see the left arm right there. He's got a little black shoulder harness on there. Doesn't matter. Watch him in right guard. Drive, drive. Now left arm right there. He's got a little black shoulder harness on there. Doesn't matter. Watch him in right guard. Drive. Drive. Now left arm goes out. That's the peck arm by the way. Fucking pancake right in the ground. Watch this shit.
Starting point is 02:41:33 Boom. Puts him down with one arm. And that Montgomery finish. Montgomery finish. Get the backside cutoff. Look at Pena Sewell with the one arm. Man, that dude is so strong. Watch Pena. Walking him. This is what gets you paid as a tackle. Backside cutoffs. Look at this. Look at that. One arm. One arm, yeah. Man, that dude is so strong. Watch Penne. Walking him. This is what gets you paid as a tackle. Backside cutoffs.
Starting point is 02:41:48 Look at this. Look at that. One arm. Get that right arm through and just drive, drive, drive. He's five yards downfield, right, AJ? It's unbelievable. Beautiful. Detroit Lions winning.
Starting point is 02:41:57 They're doing it. Way to go, Detroit Lions. I love everything about that. Here is the top five. Only one of them were in top five last week. Love that. It was Baltimore Ravens. Here is the top five. Only one of them were in the top five last week. Love that. It was Baltimore Ravens. Congrats, Atlanta Falcons. Tampa Buccaneers. 49ers. And the Detroit Lions.
Starting point is 02:42:14 Thanks. Did we just lose everything? Sorry, no. It was me. It was me. We just went in the trenches there. Too far in the trenches. That's how it looks. When you go nose down in there. Darkness. It's going dark. And that's what you've got down in there. Darkness. It's going dark. Yeah. And that's what you got to fight through. You got to fight through the darkness.
Starting point is 02:42:28 When you're on the offensive line. Congrats to all the groups. Way to go. Thank you. In the trenches. Top five, top five, top five, top five, top five. I love that. I feel like we get smarter.
Starting point is 02:42:39 That little inside crack, you're saying that's going to be a thing. Tom, everybody's going to be confident. Can every tight end do that, though? Can every tight end make that block and then get to that mic? That was a hell of a block. That's a tough – I mean, listen, it's a tough block, but like I said, I think they could have pushed this to the safety, which would make it much easier on the tight end, right? Like he could have hit that three and just climbed right up to the safety.
Starting point is 02:42:55 I think that would have made it easier, and then you could have slipped the backside up to the mic. It would have made it much easier on everybody, but Werner, who was the tight end right there, came from San Francisco, so he's used to doing this. The motions clock back. Anybody in this McVay-Shanahan world, I think they can do this. This is a big part of this.
Starting point is 02:43:11 D-Tackles just found out that they're going to get blindsided. They're going to get crushed. Bad day for D-Tackles. Chris Jones, head on a swivel, boys. Jeez. Okay. Okay. Chris Jones is just going to...
Starting point is 02:43:23 He might. He might just stiff arm. You're not. That Chris Jones is just going to. He might. He might. Chris ain't worried. He might just stiff arm. You're not. That's not. We're not doing that anymore. Let's not do that.
Starting point is 02:43:30 Those D tackles and nose tackles are just so strong. The reason that's so hard, right? So strong. When you get the wham block, nobody's blocking you. So, like, immediately, once you don't feel anything, your antenna goes up, right? So, it's like, where's it coming from, right? But on that one, you have to play the guard. The guard's reaching you. You have to
Starting point is 02:43:48 play that block. You're here. You don't even feel this. You don't know when this is coming, where it's coming from. Blindside. Looking for ribs. It's coming. These guys. It never ends. It never ends, and that's why they go in the trenches. Before we get out of here on this glorious Wednesday, I feel like
Starting point is 02:44:03 it was a good day here. Great day. Bean was awesome. He was. He's the man. Gave us a lot of good stuff. Good insight. Things got hot and heavy on Saturday morning. Tuesday morning. That's right. Not to mention Sig. Phenomenal. The GOAT. Don, did we miss anything today that we should have talked about, you think?
Starting point is 02:44:19 No, I don't think so. I agree with you wholeheartedly that it was 100% a great day. What do all this shit talk about Cleveland? I don't love that. No, I was asked questions and. I agree with you wholeheartedly that it was 100% a great day. What do all this shit talk about Cleveland? I don't love that. No, I was asked questions, and I just replied with the answers that I know true deep down in my heart. What do they call Cleveland? Mistake by the Lake. Why are the Browns going through all this?
Starting point is 02:44:36 Same old Browns. Okay. Great show out of you. It's kind of raining poop on Cleveland right now. Well, poop is actually a big part of this show. It was. Well, when they set their river on fire, it actually did rain poop out of that
Starting point is 02:44:47 river, so it could be true. Alright, see? One step too far. It's your fault. I was just saying, football, baseball. He said poop to the rain. Watch it burn in Cleveland.
Starting point is 02:45:03 Alright, thank you, Tony. Good work All right. Thank you, Tony. Good work over there. Thank you, Tony. Boys in the back, phenomenal work today. AJ, wow. You learned that Sig Sig Nettie's coming for Ohio State. What a day for you. Sig Sig Nettie, man, I am a fan.
Starting point is 02:45:17 I know multiple people from Youngstown that are Sig Sig Nettie, that are that human sound like them, and that's like everyone he was describing to you, I got tennis court, I got pool. I know four adults like that. Yeah, I know a lot of guys like that. I got putting green, too, for you. Come on, all down here. So awesome.
Starting point is 02:45:34 I love him. Yeah, Pittsburgh and West Virginia. I assume we've, you know, I think that's why we have... Candid spirit. Very quick. Sympathico. How about him just saying, like, I'm old school. Like, Indiana people, they view every sport as if Bobby Knight should still be coaching it. we have uh kindred spirit very quickly simpatico how about him just saying like i'm old school like
Starting point is 02:45:45 indiana people they view every sport as if bobby knight should still be coaching it so for signetti to come in here i'm old school i ain't got time we're gonna win too these people come fill up the stadium and they do and then they win yep any other people are like this is our guy that collective is a real deal he started that thing. Started selling merch for it. Like, he is. Hold on. Like, hey, if we're going to. I don't want to keep saying this because it sounds like a shot at him,
Starting point is 02:46:11 and it's not. But, like, the reason why he's at Indiana is because other places wouldn't hire him because he's 62 years old. So he understands, like, this might be. Like, we're in P4. We got everything we need right here in Bloomington. This is going to be his shot, I think. And I'm pulling for him.
Starting point is 02:46:25 AQ, great work today, bub. You added a lot. You added a lot to the Ash Jage. And then you coded a website we referenced earlier. And now, on the way out of here, you have an opportunity to win some people some money, AQ. What are you going to do? You going to throw a football?
Starting point is 02:46:43 I'm going to throw a football. Into which hoop? Okay! Come on, AQ. Let's do it. What are you going to do? You're going to throw a football? I'm going to throw a football. Into which hoop? Okay. Come on, AQ. Penn State Nittany Lion legend, AQ Shipley, will attempt to throw that football into that hoop right over there. If he does, 25 people will win $500. Anything to say to him, Ty? This is your first time really getting to experience a giveaway with AQ in a few weeks.
Starting point is 02:47:02 It is. I'm guessing that you didn't fare very well last time. I was kind of in the throw of it, so I missed that. But put that fucking pigskin right in that hoop. Huh? What do you say? To be clear, it is just rubber. No pigs died for that particular football,
Starting point is 02:47:16 but it was a reference, a metaphor to football. Bingo. Throw that fucking pigskin. Boy. Come on, boy. Oh, shit. Oh, my gosh. I thought that was it. Bingo Throw that fucking pigskin Boy Come on boy Oh shit Oh Oh my gosh I thought that was it
Starting point is 02:47:29 That one was online Good boy Ty you missed the last couple weeks AQ's should have been doing a lot It's right online It's right online It was not It was not online
Starting point is 02:47:37 He was lying to everybody Including himself That one was right online Con man Anything to say to AQ As he tries to win 25 people 500 bucks Yeah AQ
Starting point is 02:47:44 Why don't you just imagine for the rest of your life, you can't visit any of those XXX sites if you don't make this throw. Then think about the motivation that gives you. Think about what that would do to your life if you couldn't. And then just put that ball in the hoop. You guys have had a real moment today bonding over this during the program, it sounds like. This could be the way to seal it all.
Starting point is 02:48:04 Here we go. No more bopping! He said no way. Not in my lifetime. Yeah, right! He was so close. Felt good about that. I thought that was the one. And there was a lot on the line, obviously. 25 winners and much, much more.
Starting point is 02:48:21 What do we do next Tuesday? Later, you mean? We don't need to get into that. A.J. Hawk has a little message of motivation for you, AQ. I do. AQ, I have more of a question. People have been slandering the Seattle offensive line. Can you tell us anything about that?
Starting point is 02:48:40 Is any of that true? I've watched a video today that certainly makes it seem like that's true. What? They're not playing great, right? A lot of pressure. I didn't know that. That's happening? They were not in the top five. It doesn't seem like they're ever going to be.
Starting point is 02:48:57 I saw a video today that showed most pressures by people. It's like 17, 17, 18, 19. These are all like 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. And then number one, Seattle, 35. What are they doing? They don't block anybody? That one guy. Thomas, set their feet. He's having a tough time.
Starting point is 02:49:13 There it is. Thomas, set their feet. I'm going to throw a hand. You know what they need to do? They need to bring the boom! That's what they need to do to bring the boom to you. I guess the Costco team is in TikTok chat right now.
Starting point is 02:49:30 Thanks for bringing the boom. Thanks for bringing the boom. Give him one. Thanks for bringing the boom. I bring the boom! That's what I do. We bring the boom! I love that he's a worker.
Starting point is 02:49:46 Oh, yeah. I enjoy the fact that he is a professional wrestler. Yeah. That means he knows the gimmick. We got other steps. He does. He gets it. We're bringing the boom.
Starting point is 02:49:54 The remix was just as good as the original, which never happened. Hey, congrats, Costco's. Is the Rizzler in the chat too or no? Is Rizzler count part of the thank for the boom? No. Rizzler's busy. He's got shit to do. He doesn't raise school.
Starting point is 02:50:10 Bingo, AJ. You're right. Damn sure he ain't getting buckets. Football might be his sport. I saw him dunk. Big Justice actually got a bucket in that game. Wait, Big Justice's dad? No, that's AJ's. That's the son. Big Justice. Rizzler's the king. Wait, Big Justice's dad? No, that's AJ.
Starting point is 02:50:28 The Rizzler is the king. What are we talking about here? I don't know the names. So Costco dad is Big Justice. AJ. Costco dad is AJ. That's almighty justice. Yes, his son is Big Justice. The Rizzler is the justice. There's only one you need to know. It's the fucking Rizzler.
Starting point is 02:50:43 The Rizzler He's the dog Who's this? This is Big Justice Actually, pretty good athlete This is BJ Good pass Swing it Put it up
Starting point is 02:50:58 He brings the boom At MSG, you ever done that, D-Bush? Hell no Good high fives, too Good celebration, good self-awareness brings the boom! At MSG. You ever done that, D-Bush? Hell no. That's what we thought. That's what we thought. Good high fives, too. Good celebration. Good self-awareness.
Starting point is 02:51:08 He understands. Boys want to rally a little bit. Yeah. Okay, we appreciate them bringing a boom. Why don't you bring a boom for 25 people, 500 bucks? All you got to do is put that football in that hoop right over there. Here we go. AQC brings the boom!
Starting point is 02:51:21 That's what he do. Oh, my God. That would have been the one. God damn, that would have been the one. That would have been the biggest. Boom! That we've done, for sure. They had a world record boom, I heard.
Starting point is 02:51:35 I'm throwing it good today, though. Okay. Looks good. Does it matter? I'm close on the counts of horseshoes and hand grenades. And bocce, by the way. Bocce as well, yeah. That's a good point.
Starting point is 02:51:44 A-bombs. Curling. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think just A-bom and hand grenades. And bocce, by the way. Bocce as well, yeah. That's a good point. A-bombs. Curling. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think just A-bombs. A lot of bombs. Oppenheimer. Jesus Christ. I mean, if we're being realistic, I mean, bocce and bombs.
Starting point is 02:51:53 I think grenades gets the point across. I don't think you needed to say that. Yeah, and that actually probably goes against close, because that one's actually far. Yeah. That just like, doesn't have to be close, which is part of it. It's like 110%. Those aren't happening. Never. Yeah, we're good.
Starting point is 02:52:09 Yeah, we're fine. Dumpy, you have anything to say to AQ? Should he attempt to win 25 people 500 bucks? Yeah, AQ, you got it this time, brother. Just think about your favorite person who was walking across the frozen tundra at Lambeau Field just the other day. That's true.
Starting point is 02:52:25 That's pretty exact there. Coach. Coach. You got this. I don't think I know what that means. You will. Oh, my gosh. Back rim?
Starting point is 02:52:39 Damn. This guy's getting screwed. He didn't bring the boot. This guy. I'm going to go back. Who walked across the Green Bay Packers? I thought he was. It's a tour. Okay.
Starting point is 02:52:52 Why is there always? I saw that guy bird hunting. I saw him bird hunting. I'm seeing a lot of stuff, dude. I'm seeing a lot too much stuff. I'm about fucking done with seeing it When's that happen? When's it? November 5th, trade deadline day
Starting point is 02:53:09 Bingo Right? Is election day for the rest of the world? Three weeks from yesterday You got to start voting, they said You should only do it if you're prepared Thank you I'm tired of seeing it all Should I go back?
Starting point is 02:53:22 Oh, now you can call your shot It's your last Okay On your last ball. You should go to the bank. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley's about to go to the bank. 25 people win 500 bucks. They're going to go to the bank too. You're aiming it. They want you to break.
Starting point is 02:53:36 Did you hit your arm on something on that throw? It was gross. It was disgusting. It was aimed down. You threw another brick. That's what you do. Oh, Hall of Famer. Western Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 02:53:52 It was plastic academically. Big justice inspired him. That's right. The Rizzler, maybe. 25 people. Jesus. Jesus Christ. What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:54:03 I love his feet. He swallows little feet. That That's lava don't you dare We got another one This one's going in 25 people $500 If the high school basketball hall of famer Can put that hoop ball into that hoop Right over there
Starting point is 02:54:19 It's a state shot moonshot Money Oh there it is That's what we it's a state shot moonshot money that's what we do way to go aq 25 people 500 wow all you gotta do is repost this post say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay you and you could be one of the random winners 25 for 500 bucks that's beautiful what a great way to end the day unbelievable fantastic hey telling dicks won't come out here so you can join the team. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life
Starting point is 02:54:50 like our friends at Dude Wives. What? Oh, ladies and gentlemen, before we get out of here, we have to talk about this. Tell them I'm happy you're here. Do you know that Darius J. Butler is going into a Hall of Fame this weekend? What?
Starting point is 02:55:10 Did you know this? Congratulations to D-Butt. Hell yeah, D-Butt. 2024 Broward County Sports Hall of Fame inductee, D-Butt. Obviously, congratulations. Broward County has had an immense amount of talent in sports world going through there and humans. Congratulations to you, man.
Starting point is 02:55:27 This is a big deal. You should be very proud of yourself. Yeah, I'm excited about it, man. Very, very happy. You mentioned it, Broward County. Obviously, a talent-rich area. I think one of my classmates is going in, Lexi Thompson, a great female golfer right now.
Starting point is 02:55:41 I think she's retiring after this year. But, yeah, honored to be going in, man. It should be a great, great moment. Obviously for myself and the family. For the family, younger brothers, younger sisters, parents get to see it. It's pretty dope. Congratulations. Are you giving a speech? I will be. And my brother will be doing the speech that
Starting point is 02:55:55 my big brother will be, you know, whatever that's called. Inducting you. Inducting me. Are you ready? Are you ready for the speech? What do we have? Yeah, I'm ready. I'm off the top and I speak from the heart. I got probably about four bullet points. Hell yeah. A couple people I need to shout out. Congratulations, man.
Starting point is 02:56:08 That is very cool. And that's a sweet graphic. It is. Thank you. Whoever made that. D-Bone. That's the department. D-Bone put that together.
Starting point is 02:56:13 Appreciate you, D-Bone. You've earned it. You deserve it. All right. On you, buddy. Hey, let's go. Team on three. One, two, three.
Starting point is 02:56:20 Team. Goodbye. Congrats, D-Bone. Thanks.

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