The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1226 - Jamal Crawford, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the breaking news that the Chiefs are officially finalizing a deal to acquire DeAndre Hopkins from the Titans for a ...conditional 4th round pick, last night’s NBA opening night and recap both the Celtics/Knicks and Lakers/Timberwolves games, and AQ Shipley gives his three biggest talking points of week 7 of the NFL season before going into the trenches and looking at the best offensive lines in the NFL this week. Joining the progrum to break down last night’s NBA games and preview the season as a whole is 21 year NBA veteran, 3x NBA 6th Man of the Year, Jamal Crawford. Later, future Hall of Famer, Texans Ring of Honor member, a man with countless Pro Bowl and All-Pro selections, and analyst for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt joins the show to give his biggest takeaway’s from week 7 of the NFL season and what he’s thinking as we approach the halfway mark of the NFL season. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our spooky humble above the thunderdome on this white wednesday october 23rd 2024 this program begins now football i thought it was the 25th already that's on me that's how excited i am for halloween you know you walk in here you see all the spooky decorations we've added a headless horseman that came with a house that I purchased. Whoa. Just came with a house. Open the closet. Headless horseman standing in closet. Freak the shit out of you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Then boom, put it up in the Thunderdome. What a setup. What a design. We can't thank Zito enough for doing that, but we're all in great spirits. How could you not be? Football is rolling. Halloween right around the corner. The weather is giving us us nice 75, 80 degrees
Starting point is 00:00:46 day. Gorgeous. It's almost like Mother Nature just popped in and said, hey, hey, take the tractor another round, another round, another round. I was driving home. We got people running. Oh, yeah. We got walking with their kids. Everybody's out like it was a summer day because everybody understands like, hey, we're about to have to hunker down here a little bit. That's right. So vibes are high in the midwest we hope wherever the hell you are it is fantastic as well and today's show is going to be packed we got jamal crawford yes sir mr crossover will be joining us in about nine minutes or so the nba tipped off last night exciting riveting games almost record-breaking start for the reigning champions the boston celtics for
Starting point is 00:01:23 number three's hit in a game they were unconscious so much so that uh guy for the reigning champions, the Boston Celtics, for a number three's hit in a game. They were unconscious, so much so that a guy for the Knicks actually said, I would like the NBA drug test all of them because I ain't never seen anybody shoot like that before. Well, there's been one team in the past, and they tied, would have been able to break the record in the fourth if they would have hit one more three. Tatum went bananas. Joe Mazzola kissed the court. They got a ring. They hung a banner. The Celtics appear to be very dominant, and the Knicks look like crap. What does that mean for the Eastern Conference? What does it mean for
Starting point is 00:01:52 the Western Conference that the Lakers got two whites? The Lakers got two whites that are roaming that wood, and Braun and Brawny are on the court at the same time. J.J. Redick's getting shit dumped on them. Seems like the Staples Center, the Super Duper Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, Super Duper Bitcoin Arena. Super Duper Bitcoin Arena was loud. It's like the NBA started off in a big fashion. That's great. The talk show table's here. At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Obviously a man who's a nine-year NFL vet, not a Steelers fan.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Darius J. Butler is here. And a 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, Jackie Moon of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. A.Q. Shipley's here. A.Q. Boys, obviously, J.J. Watt will be joining us in the next hour as well. A.J. Hawk, it's a big day. But in the NFL world, massive news this morning.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yep. Massive news. DeAndre Hopkins has officially been traded from the Tennessee Titans to the Kansas City Chiefs. Now it's for a fifth rounder with some conditions that it could become a fourth. And I do wonder, same exact thing that every one of these trades kind of makes me think about is, did everybody know you get DeAndre Hopkins for a fucking fifth rounder? Did we understand that?
Starting point is 00:02:59 And then I, you know, you reach out to Hembo and you say, Hembo, is DeAndre Hopkins going to work out for Patrick Mahomes? And he goes, actually, there's some stats here that say everything that Patrick Mahomes needs and hasn't had this year, which has led to a very slow start for Patrick Mahomes underneath Patrick Mahomes standards, DeAndre Hopkins helps out with. In zone coverage, he's quickly open, understands hot routes, understands defenses. Yards, 0 to 11 for passes. In the pass, Patrick Mahomes has been very good. Understands what defense is, gets the
Starting point is 00:03:27 balls out quickly. DeAndre Hopkins eats in these, let alone what he's able to do down the field. There's a lot of people saying he's washed. Was Kareem Hunt washed whenever he went over there? Was other players that end up in a good program, a good organization with a shot to win a Super Bowl, do they all of a sudden seemingly find the fountain of youth? Especially
Starting point is 00:03:43 at some of these teams that have been chasing rings over the last 20 years? Yeah, they do. Remember, Randy was washed before Randy Moss went up to New England. Remember, this has happened time and time again. Gronkowski was retired. Back was bad. Old. Everything like that. Juju this year. Goes to Tampa. Boom. Juju goes back to Kansas City. Boom. Has production. It's like sometimes a little motivation, a little hope, a little optimism can spur a little bit more activity or a little bit more awesome from the greats. I believe DeAndre Hopkins is going to fit in great over there. The stats say it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 They prove it. Now, how do we get to this point? Well, Schrager was talking about it this morning on Good Morning Football. I think Ian nailed it with that. This has been in the works, in the ether, but it really came together last night. Look, the comp, from what I'm told, is a fifth round pick, and the conditions are interesting. What you're going to get is it's Super Bowl appearance and playing time, meaning that's what could qualify to a fourth for the Tennessee Titans. That's actually not even finalized as we go on air right now they're still working that out so this was getting finalized this morning Schrager said on good morning football D Butch obviously you played against Hopp whenever he was at the Houston Texans a lot in the division he ends up at the Titans they pay him the most I think is the reason why he ends up there now he's with the Chiefs what do you expect from him with Patrick Mahomes and Andrew Reid and Veach do it again he'll get a
Starting point is 00:05:02 little fresh air obviously new place you're going to, too. Obviously, a championship contender. And, you know, back in those Houston days, he was doing a lot of heavy lifting, regardless of the quarterback throwing the ball. Now you have Mahomes throwing the ball, a big body that can run across the middle, another red zone mismatch when he's one-on-one. Obviously, Kelsey hasn't really got going down there yet, but you got him. You got some speed guys on the outside. Xavier Worthy, who you expect to continue to develop this year.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Hartman kind of had his role expand last week. So I expect this to be a big pickup for the Kansas City Chiefs. Now, A.Q., you were teammates, right, with Hartman? No, I missed him. Okay, you were not teammates with him, but obviously around the NFL, long-ass time, 12 years. What are your thoughts on DeHop? Because remember, when DeHop was getting shopped, wasn't there a conversation about what he does, what he doesn't? him but obviously around the nfl long ass time 12 years what are your thoughts on d-hop because
Starting point is 00:05:45 remember when d-hop was getting shopped uh wasn't there a conversation about what he does what he doesn't do how he is how he is haven't heard anybody in tennessee say they don't like d-hop no there was just that one picture from this past weekend it was still of him next to callahan and there was like a look or something like that other than that hasn't been a peep from d-hop in tennessee other than him at country concerts looking real cool. Real cool. He has a good cowboy hat. Good fits, too.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Always. Always good fits. So the only negative things I've ever heard about DeHop was whenever teams were thinking about getting him and it seemed like people were releasing information about him. Practice. Yeah, his practice habits, how he is in the building and everything. I haven't heard anybody say anything negative about him ever. Your thoughts on the signing here by
Starting point is 00:06:27 Veach who, source says, tell me maybe isn't done. That's what source says, told me this morning after a congratulatory tweet was sent out, or text was sent out. He's a quarterback's best friend, right? Like he's always open.
Starting point is 00:06:43 He catches everything. His hands are impeccable. He was Kyler Murray's go-to whenever he was in trouble, just throw it up. He's a quarterback's best friend, right? He's always open. He catches everything. His hands are impeccable. He was Kyler Murray's go-to. Whenever he was in trouble, just throw it up. He's going to catch everything. And listen, what people don't understand is when culture's bad, it deflates you immediately. He will instantly be reinvigorated and get thrown into that offense, and he'll probably have
Starting point is 00:07:00 eight catches for 110 yards this week. That's what's going to happen. His return game, what was it? A couple years ago, I guess. He went for like 13 catches yeah no touchdowns right yep it was just all first downs pretty much in the entirety like this offense has been looking for a spark right can't see cheese have been looking for they had one where she was going remember she was gonna be the guy then nasty injury he's out okay so now we lose it xavier worthy remember they were taking shots early training camp we saw that early we saw that. Early, we saw that. Missing a couple times.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Travis Kelsey, obviously, we're very used to him just dominating in the yards department. Instead, he's like lead blocking more often than anything else. Doesn't have a touchdown yet. That is insane to think about. So it's like the addition of Devontae Adams. Does it open up everything? Not Devontae Adams, but like Devontae Adams. Does it kind of unlock that offense yet again, you think?
Starting point is 00:07:44 I think you nailed it. I think it does. It unlocks everything because now you have a deep threat. You have the guy that can push it and still get you the little 10-yard out route. He's going to catch everything. That's what he's great at, getting open in the zones, doing all that stuff. And now you can't just double Travis Kelsey every time. Now you've got to maybe play single high or double him this side,
Starting point is 00:08:02 and now we can run the ball this way. There's a million different things that's going to unlock the stadium. What do you mean? What did our source mean when he said maybe a hot diner or something like that? Because that's what Bean said too. Bean comes on the program and goes, we've still got some time, we'll see. Bring in Amari Cooper, we'll look around, we'll always be snooping around.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And then now seemingly what's being said is, there's still some time november 5th you know still got time but it is coming up november 5th is coming up trade deadline day it's coming up quick 13 days they can early trade and they are doing that yep that's right but then on november 5th sometimes there's the last action which is you know going to be pretty active this particular year right but it's like what are they thinking about adding cooper cup as well oh like maybe are the chiefs just automatically going to be like, if Cooper Cup is allegedly available?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Now, here's Cooper Cup talking yesterday in a press conference after there was rumors about him potentially being available for trade. Yeah, I'm aware of it. But at the end of the day, I mean, I'm going to be where my feet are. That's all I know. You know, I have a job to do here. I take a lot of pride in giving everything I can for the guys in this building and being able to step on the field knowing that I've prepared the best that I can.
Starting point is 00:09:15 For seven and a half years, I've been an L.A. Ram, and I've taken that approach every single day. Whatever happens outside of that, I've got control. I can control, and right now that means being the best L.A. rounder I can be, and I'm going to continue to do that. Have the Rams spoken with you or your representatives about the possibility of trading you? Yeah, nothing really. No, it is that time of the year. There's going to be rumors and things that go around.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I let that stuff, as much as I can be in the background and, like I said, just kind of handle my business. Okay, so a lot of things in there kind of saying, like, if I might, yeah, been here seven and a half years, obviously I focus for the guys in this locker room, in this organization, be where my feet are, do the best I can. Didn't say he wanted to be traded by
Starting point is 00:10:01 any means, didn't say he thought he was going to get traded, but certainly said, like said it's a possibility. It's how he chatted about it. DeAndre Hopkins gets traded yesterday. Devontae Adams gets traded last week. Amari Cooper gets traded last week. It seems like if you were a team that was looking for a wide receiver, Cooper Cup might be
Starting point is 00:10:18 the guy you're trying to get. Let's go to Hammer. Don! Todd! Don Diggs, our Pittsburgh Steelers, going to get Cooper Cup? What's happening, brother? I want him so bad, Pat. I want him so bad. We keep doing this. Everybody else is getting wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Why can't we get a wide receiver? Maybe now that Russ is a quarterback, maybe that is a more intriguing place for these wide receivers to go, even though it's not always their decision. I know guys who have been with teams for a long time, and they want to do right by the player in a lot of these situations. But Cooper Cupp, like we've talked about, is a second quarterback on the field at the wide receiver position. He shows up at 6 a.m. facility every day. Not only
Starting point is 00:10:58 is he going to be great for any team that he goes to, the Steelers and a lot of these wide receiver rooms, they're young. He would just be great for the wide receiver room and the entire offense, obviously, going forward. But, yeah, I mean, Cooper Cup is an absolute. The game before he got hurt, what, he had like 20 targets and like 14 catches? He's a stud when he's on the field, yes. He is injury-prone a bit the last three years. So is DeHop.
Starting point is 00:11:23 So is a lot of these guys. That's why they're potentially being traded. But yeah, I want Cooper Cup bad. Okay. So Pittsburgh Steelers were allegedly in it to the 11th hour with Brandon Ayuk. Even had a $30 million offer on the table, allegedly for Brandon Ayuk. And that was scoffed at. Yeah, no big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Seemingly, it was on the table for a while. So the Pittsburgh Steelers were in the wide receiver market looking for a wide receiver, too. With the explosion of George Pickens alongside Russell Wilson this past weekend on primetime, is that going to change how they address it? Will they try to go get this Cooper Cup deal done, which is allegedly like a second-round pick, but Rams are willing to pay it down. Hopkins just went for a fifth. Cooper was, what, a third or fourth or something like that with a fifth and a sixth option in there. Devontae was a third. So I don't know if you're going to get a second for Cooper Cup,
Starting point is 00:12:10 but I think the market has kind of set itself up for what it is. These wide receivers seemingly, if you can handle their contract, and contract and salary cap gymnastics is certainly possible for any team. But if draft compensations hasn't been much for these guys, and it continues to baffle me, Con Man.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah, it's ridiculous. Especially just because the guys we're talking about. We're not talking about bums. DeAndre Hopkins, there's the stat that came out in 2017. Hunt was the leading rusher. DeHop was the leading receiver of the most touchdowns in Kelsey. And now they're all on the same team. With Cooper Cup, I want the Steelers to get him so bad
Starting point is 00:12:43 because Tony's been white knuckling for a wide receiver for so damn long. But a team like the Commanders would be awesome just because they have Terry McLaurin. They were in the market for Iuke and a couple other guys. They have the cap space. And you think about what a wide receiver like Cooper Cup could do for a Jaden Daniels. Could you imagine Cliff Kingsbury, who in that tree with McVay in them,
Starting point is 00:13:05 with a Cooper Cup, Terry McLaurin, obviously they got the run game going now. The Washington Commanders are in it with the money. They have Jaden Daniels. They can win right now. We always talk about that rookie contract. Cooper Cup going over there would be incredible and then you obviously have to think about a team like the Ravens where they see everybody
Starting point is 00:13:21 else in the AFC making moves. Cooper goes to the Bills. They're at the top of the division. Hopkins goes to the Chiefs. They're at the in the AFC making moves Cooper goes to the Bills they're at the top of the division Hopkins goes to the Chiefs they're at the top of the division or excuse me conference why wouldn't you know the Ravens try and make a move at somebody well that's why you talk about the draft compensation like all these teams who are trading for these guys have like visions of going and playing in the Super Bowl so you talk about like oh they're given a fourth round pick that could become a third round pick like they they're thinking like, hey, we're going to be drafting in like the last three to five picks of the draft anyway. So that fourth round pick is really what, like an early fifth
Starting point is 00:13:53 round pick. Like it just makes sense. We're not talking about any of these guys going for a top 10 pick or a top 15 pick. It's going to be a pick at the end of the draft anyway. And we've heard all these people talking more and more about the draft. It's like, hey, once you get past those first 15 picks, the difference between a first-round pick and a second-round pick, those lines blur big time. So why wouldn't you do it if you actually have a window right now
Starting point is 00:14:15 and you feel like you can go win a Super Bowl? Maybe he's calling the Colts. I didn't even think about that. That would make sense. Cooper Cupp calling the Colts? That'd be a good time. Colts and Commanders still make sense. You have an AP vote. You can't just say stuff that is clearly biased because you're a Steelers fan. You guys already have Alec Pierce. Luke McCaffrey's already
Starting point is 00:14:34 on the Commanders. It just doesn't make sense. There isn't a white. There's more than one white receiver. There isn't a cap on how many whites are allowed to have playing wide receivers. Oh, shut up. He makes a good point. I don't want to hear it. Colts would be a good landing spot. I think there's a lot of fan bases that are thinking to have playing wide. Oh, shut up. He makes a good point. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. Colts would be a good landing spot.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I think there's a lot of fan bases that are thinking to themselves, can we get Cooper Cup for a fourth-round pick? Can we get Cooper Cup for a third-round pick? Just staying at a third-round pick? Not paying anything? And it's like, is he going to be able to be healthy? That's certainly something you have to look into. I think he was very durable for a long time there
Starting point is 00:15:04 and then potentially got unlucky. Does that mean it's going to continue to get unlucky it was a hamstring thing right that he went over to minnesota and a foot he's had he's had a couple real ones a number of yeah throughout his career that's kind of been his thing now obviously we all remember the triple crown year you know leading in the unbelievable run he had in the playoffs and when he's healthy he can do He can block. He can run the deep routes. He can obviously run the option routes. And you mentioned another quarterback on the field. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:15:30 The commanders probably make the most sense right now. Now, after Conner laid that out, I would love him with young Jaden Daines out there with that offense. Obviously, you got speedy Terry Mack on the outside, but I would love him with the commies. Well, and also with what the commies have been able to accomplish without him. So, if he does get injured or he's not playing, it's like you're in a good spot. But if you're like the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's like, hey,
Starting point is 00:15:50 our offense is potentially just getting started to be good. You can find a role here quick. You can find and be at home here quick. Then if he gets injured, now you're in a tough spot. Cliff Kingsbury has been able to draw up. Jayden Daniels. Yeah. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:16:08 It's filthy. C.J. Stroud into Jayden Daniels. Is this just going to happen now? And is everybody else going to stink? Like, what is the – No, well, not everybody else. No, I wouldn't go that far. Quarterbacks at the top of the draft as of late are pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I mean, who knows? Bryce Young might go somewhere next year and light the world on fire. But if you're the number two team, you kind of have to take quarterback now. Yeah. No matter what. Yeah, you're right. Jaden Daniels is so good. Is he going to be okay?
Starting point is 00:16:34 I know his mom said he's fine. Yeah, he's fine. I think so. If his mom says that, he's fine. Commander of the Second Coach Dan Quinn said quarterback Jaden Daniels will be considered week to week. That's not good. Week to week.
Starting point is 00:16:45 He's fine. He's week. He's fine. Mariota's spinning it. So, I mean, if I'm the commies, I'm not worried about a damn thing because you've got a big ooch in the back. Yeah, so you're saying, and he's obviously found a great home in Cliff Kingsbury's offense, but what you're saying is Jaden Daniels gets dropped in the starting lineup as a rookie early, has immediate success, never gets an opportunity to just kind of watch maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah, sit back. What he's allowed to do. Mark Schmariota may be walking into a meeting room going, we're not running this play. We're not running this play. Cliff Kingsbury is saying, you are running this play. Do you know what our offense has been doing? And Mark Schmariota goes, okay, hey, Jayden, you're allowed to do that every once in a while,
Starting point is 00:17:17 even though it might not be right. You can do that. If I didn't, he's not listening. You see, you're allowed to say these things. In the cafeteria, we don't like the food, okay? Your quarterback's allowed to say, hey, nobody's really eaten any of this, right? Isn't that kind of a – you're allowed to do those types of things as a quarterback for a team.
Starting point is 00:17:32 If Jaden Daniels isn't playing, I know we like Marcus Mariota. I'm one of his biggest fans. I just walked down Mariota Hall over there in Oregon. So cool. Saw all his trophies. So many trophies. The thing on the roof. Him.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah, him. On the roof. Like, I have massive respect. But I would like to watch Jaden Daniels continue to play football. Yeah. So we need that ribbed. You know what I mean? Or just get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Take it out. Yep. Yeah, because people have done that in the past, right? Yeah. Fix his elbow. Yeah, well, his elbow's just fine. It just looks weird. Yeah, fix it with the rib.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Just put the rib on the tricep to just connect the two so he's got a mega arm. So he's got to bind that. It was a bind because that thing was way behind. Yeah. It was looking. Got to be willing to make a deal. Yeah, yeah. I saw that happen in there.
Starting point is 00:18:14 All right. All right. So we just covered all the topical NFL news. Let's dive into the NBA. Listen, the association tipped off last night. Hell yeah. And I don't know how often we'll cover it. I'll be honest. Sure. A lot of storylines coming out opening night. Hell yeah. And I don't know how often we'll cover it. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Sure. A lot of storylines coming out of opening night. I assume that's normal. We just haven't paid attention to it in the past. You got Brawny playing with his kid. You got the Lakers being good, maybe. JJ Redick's debut, obviously. Phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And then in Boston, how you doing? Keep it moving. Banner night, big rings. Dominating performance against the New York Knicks, who, you know, have had a good run as of late. Not as good as the Pacers, but certainly a good run and have everybody in New York excited about it.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Joining us now to chit-chat a little bit more about all the storylines that have developed and are developing in the NBA. 21-year vet. 21 years he played in the NBA. Ladies and gentlemen, the crossover, Jamal Croft. Yeah! What's up, man? What up, y'all?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Hey, who's Big Woo? That fitness seems like a good time. Big Woo's got good fitness, I assume. He does. He's one of the best around in agility and getting bouts for the kids. All the kids go to him. He's a great job, great dude.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So, gotta show him some love. Yeah, Big Woo's a great name, too. That is a great name. Fantastic big woos got people running over like little hurdles and stuff like that doing agility drills Agility drills. He's doing the slays getting all these kids balance. He's like the guy out here for sure So my son goes to him so everybody goes to him. Does he have him walking around on his shoes? You know, there's a calf shoes. Yeah, has he got those, you know, those shoes? Is that what Big Woo uses?
Starting point is 00:19:50 Is Big Woo using them? No, no. Pat, those went out like the 90s. That's like my era, bro. Once those went out, it was over with. We had to make it more creative. I didn't know if Big Woo was old school. I didn't know if Big Woo was old school. Let's talk about old school.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Last night, LeBron, in his 22nd year, plays alongside his son, Bronny. That's obviously the massive story, as it should be. Very cool. Very, very cool. Congrats to the James family. I couldn't fathom how the family felt in it all. Had to be cool moments. Ant goes bananas.
Starting point is 00:20:16 LeBron's still playing a lot of ball. What's your takeaway from the Lakers and their debut and J.J. Redick as a whole? Just kind of the Lakers, what you saw from them last night, and what our expectations should be. You can see a clear focus to play through Anthony Davis, and I think that's been a struggle. At times, you know, Davis is the focal point. At times, you know, he would take a back seat.
Starting point is 00:20:35 LeBron would be more aggressive. It was clear that Davis is going to be the focal point. I think he's the hub, so to speak. And you can clearly see there's more movement. Like J.J. Redick has movement. He wants the ball to be the star at times, move it around, get easy shots for everybody, keep everybody involved. And then
Starting point is 00:20:49 LeBron and his son, like, who can fathom that? Like, we never thought we'd see it in basketball because guys play average of four years, right? If you play 10 years, that's a long career. Nowhere you don't play 22 years and have enough time to be at that level where your son can jump in and play with you and then be on the same team. I'm not sure we'll ever see that again so i think we'll appreciate
Starting point is 00:21:07 it later a lot of people obviously pissed off about it you know losers if bingo that's exactly what i think as well you know if his last name wasn't james and his first name wasn't brawny we wouldn't be doing this it's like but his name is brawny James, and his dad is one of the greatest of all time. He's been around high, high, high IQ basketball literally his entire life. What are your expectations for Brawny in the NBA at this point? And at what point will we know if Brawny's able to actually kind of cement his own legacy as a player in the NBA? It's going to take him some time, Pat, for real. Like, I was a top pick. If you go back and look at my numbers
Starting point is 00:21:46 after my first year, you're a thousand bucks. I was a number eight pick. I averaged four points. I shot terrible. And people are like, why did he get drafted so high? And that was for me. And people don't remember that part. It's going to take him some time. I think he has skills. I think he's athletic enough. It's the difference between having
Starting point is 00:22:01 confidence and then having NBA confidence. You can only get that through experience, through playing and he's going to a good team that has a lot of pressure on him he's going to be a player, it's just going to take him a couple years and then once he gets it and once the game slows down for him so to speak, he'll be good he just needs the time
Starting point is 00:22:16 and that's the other part people don't factor in because my sons go through it now people put the expectations on you like your dad was great, your dad played in the NBA. You have to be that. People see the stuff that's good that happens to them. They don't see all the stuff that people talk about them online or in person or whatever it might be. They have to deal with that as well.
Starting point is 00:22:34 But I think Bronny's going to be a player, no doubt about it. Yeah, they always talk about the positives of being the bronze kid, not the negatives of being the bronze kid. Like every game you've ever played, packed gym, and everybody hoping you suck on the other side. Everybody hoping you fail. Not easy, obviously, mentally. A lot of things are a little bit easier than most of us, though.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Last night, the prank, you know, he put all the cereal in his car, and Brian just says, okay, I'll just take my other car. Yeah. I'll take my other car. I'm stunned. No, I'll take my other car. I ain't worried about that. Well, NIL's a real deal, and obviously he has a massive following, so he's a good businessman just like his old man. Sure, man.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But the Fruity Pebbles getting dumped. That might have been two billion individual Fruity Pebbles. Oh, my God. The amount they filled up that particular car. I like that the camera person in the bushes. Can't see him. See it? I think they filmed this for real, and then they asked Nike if they wanted to sponsor it.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I think that's what happened. It was a real photo. Everything with LeBron is always layered. So you see he's jumping his Maybach. They could have took it to Nike themselves. So it's always a double entendre there for sure. Yeah, that's next level. Hey, that's 22 years in the NBA doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You talked about how the average career is like four years, and then 10 years, 22 years is crazy. You played 21 years at what point should we expect lebron's and i understand he's seemingly built different than every human i've ever seen i think and obviously 21 years playing basketball running on hardwood i mean that's insane to think about for your joints but he's seemingly playing a lot still like a lot a lot we got a chance to a chance to see Vince Carter down in Atlanta in his 22nd season, and he was coming in spells. It was like a four or five minute, Vince Carter's on the court, all eyes on Vince
Starting point is 00:24:14 too. He was getting the ball every time he was down there. It was awesome. We were lucky to see it, but then he was off. He wasn't like main driving factor for team. Do you expect LeBron to continue that type of action this season? And at what point should we expect that to drop off? I look at LeBron like Mayweather. And what I mean by that is this. Mayweather wasn't getting into the exchanges as much as he got to older. LeBron's pacing himself while he's on the court.
Starting point is 00:24:38 So whatever he lost athletically, and he's still in the 99th percentile, right, of athletes in the world. Whatever little slippage he lost, he gained his mind. I percentile right of athletes in the world whatever little slippage he lost he gained his mind i can rest while i'm on the court i'll let the ball be the star i'll throw it ahead so i can kind of coast in and then pick my spots and still be out here be effective and be great i mean we saw he still did in the olympics i think for him his only challenge is going to be him and his mind how long he can keep his mind fresh because athletically if we're saying there's a little bit of slippage
Starting point is 00:25:05 and he's still averaging 25, 7, and 6, like, what are we talking about? Like, that dude is from another planet. So I think as long as his mind is fresh, he's figured out how to still win the battles and win those games without taking all those punches, so to speak, like Mayweather did. During the Olympics, a lot of people were saying he was from another planet. Yeah. That was happening because of how he got real loud actually there for a bit.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Him playing like Messi is fun to think about. Messi's like walking around sometimes. Do I really need to be in 100% sprint right here? Nah. And then when he gets the ball, bang, we're off and running. LeBron finding time to rest during play. I'm going to watch for that. I'm going to call him lazy.
Starting point is 00:25:42 There he is. This guy's lazy. Walking around. But he's like... He's not lazy. That's what they say him lazy. There he is. This guy's lazy. He's walking around. He's not lazy. That's what they say about Messi. These people say this about Messi in the soccer world. He's kind of lazy. Just kind of walking around. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey, other game that happened, obviously a big one. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Jamal,
Starting point is 00:25:59 banner night for the Celtics and they come out on fire. 10-3 in the first quarter. It feels as though at the current moment in time that we could just cancel the season, give the Celtics and they come out on fire. 10-3 is in the first quarter. It feels as though at the current moment in time that we could just cancel the season, give the Celtics another championship. They haven't seen the Pacers. The Celtics have and they swept their ass in four games.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Irese is big Puma now. Remember he's got the Puma shoes. Yeah, we'll see how that works out. I'm sure it'll be great. It doesn't matter because the Celtics are by far and away the best team in the league. What do you think about them coming out? No rust whatsoever. And is Joe Mazzulla just the greatest coach of all time?
Starting point is 00:26:33 And is he just perfect for this Celtics team? One of the best things that happened to the Celtics was the Olympics. Jalen Brown not making it. Jason Tatum getting done like he was done. They have fuel again. They're not satisfied. They're like, okay, we'll show you guys again. So, think about this. Kristoff's didn't even play. Like, they're on a whole other level. And their scary
Starting point is 00:26:50 stat out of all that is to see Tatum get 10 assists. We know he's going to get 30 plus points. When he gets 10 assists and gets everybody else involved, and you have five, six guys, double-figure threats, with the way they shoot the ball, and the fact that now they know their style can win championships. They believe in Mazzulli.
Starting point is 00:27:05 He's all the way, all in. He's an unbelievable coach. I talked to him at the finals when they won it. The way he thinks is different. They have bought into him. They bought into the team. They can go on a run. Remember just a couple years ago they were trying to break up Brown and Tatum?
Starting point is 00:27:18 Now these guys have a mini dynasty if they keep going. Hey, they missed nine straight threes at the end of the game. Are we worried about that? Nine straight. No. Not at all. Because you know what? They'll make one or two of those to kind of calm the tide and get back on track.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And they sold out to it. And they still have a player in Tatum and Brown, both of them, that can get to the mid-range. And when Kristaps is playing, they can get to the mid-pulse with him. They'll be fine. Nine straight? I mean, think about what Missoula's saying about those nine straight misses. Just more fuel to the fire. Just pour it on.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Because if they would hit it one more three, it would have broke a record for most threes in a game? Yeah. Which I see Golden State has. I'm assuming that as well. I'm assuming they get it this year at some point. Who, Boston? Yes. Better three-point shooting team than Golden State was when the
Starting point is 00:28:03 Splash Brothers were doing their thing No, I'm not saying that but they're shooting a higher volume. They shot 62 threes like that's That's unbelievable she was 62 threes all they go say don't say was by shooting the 40s at that point Oh, this was you. Oh, yeah, Missoula was getting judged because it was like hey when the threes aren't falling You got to be able to make your adjustments. You're not to be able to do... That was what he was getting judged for. Yeah, bingo. And all five of the guys in the court can shoot the three. At Golden State, I feel like they didn't really have all five of them
Starting point is 00:28:32 chucking threes. Draymond can drain from three. Is that who you're talking? No, no. More so Ludo. No, no. I got to go a path. I was in the gym with Draymond this summer and I was blown away how good he can actually shoot. He actually can shoot threes. I promise you.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I would not lie. I co-signed that. I stamped that. You ever see him dance? Yeah. Oh, yeah. People that can dance can shoot. That's just kind of how a guy's got to have those loose shoulders.
Starting point is 00:28:54 That's how Ben Simmons is shooting threes this summer, too. Well, he doesn't know which hand he is. That is, you know, that's all. That's. Am I right? I don't know basketball. Is that right? You do.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You do. You do. Okay, okay. So that's what I see. What I see. I'm sure this guy doesn't know. There's been instances in football where you see somebody throwing a football and it's like, that's the wrong arm.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah. You're supposed to be on the other side. In basketball, it's pretty apparent. Isn't LeBron a lefty, allegedly? Yep. He is a lefty the only thing he does is shoot with his right hand he autographs his left hand like he's lefty and didn't he do we'll do offhand shooting drills and then he says i'm left here and then he shoots really against
Starting point is 00:29:37 everybody which is what he shoots in the nba yeah love it that's such a good move yeah that is such a layer always layers uh the boston celtics tied the milwaukee bucks for most threes in the game don't know when or how but that is who they talk about red 2020 there was 29 of them that was in the bubble oh that was an easier bar that doesn't count that does not count i was in the bubble i didn't play but that that didn't count i heard it was easier to shoot in there is that accurate so much easier i hadn't played in 16 months. That doesn't count. I heard it was easier to shoot in there. Is that accurate? So much easier. I hadn't played in 16 months. I was fresh off the streets and came back like I had never left in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:30:10 The bubble had special powers in it. Why is that? Because the back, the perception, it was shorter, so it was easier to shoot into the, because the optics, why was it easier to shoot in there? Yeah, the depth perception was different. There was no crowd noise. You didn't even smell the popcorn. It was just a different feel. It was like playing pick-up with cameras. So it was depth perception was different. There was no crowd noise. You didn't even smell the popcorn. It was just a different
Starting point is 00:30:26 feel. It was like playing pick-up with cameras. So it was a totally different feel. Lakers won the championship then. Don't ever forget it. And the New England, the Boston Network or whatever took a shot at them actually because they listed out all the most titles ever. 18 Celtics, 17 Lakers
Starting point is 00:30:42 and they put an asterisk on it and at the bottom it said Disney Championship included. No. Hey, that's what they did. They also got the Super Duper Mega Cup halfway through the year last year. They did. They hang the banner. They did.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Was it in the lobby or were they hanging it in the? No, they're hanging it in the big one. See, they need to put that in the lobby. That's a lobby banner. Yeah. You know, that's not. That's a lobby banner. I think the halfway through tourney should be designated lobby ban.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I agree. NBA Cup, baby. Yeah, the NBA Cup. There it is. Ty has a question for you. Jamal? Yeah, Jamal. So it looks like the Celtics are just the runaway favorites in the East,
Starting point is 00:31:14 but a lot of people are talking about the Sixers. What are your thoughts on Joel Embiid saying from the get-go, hey, I'm not playing in any back-to-backs this year? I think this is part of the reason why casual fans can't stay in the NBA because some of the biggest stars already in the load management era are just saying, hey, I'm not playing back-to-backs. My body can't handle it. Can a team win a championship, win their best player?
Starting point is 00:31:37 You don't know if he's going to be healthy enough to play two nights in a row. Yeah, I don't like it. I mean, obviously he knows his body so he knows that you know it's big through trauma it's big through stress and maybe he was frustrated that moment he may have got some news who knows but i don't like you know planning down the line that you're not gonna play back-to-backs and that's my thing when the nba was more like physical and when practices were real practice you practice two or three hours i was saying then 10 15 years, 15 years ago, like, look, if guys are going to miss games with low management and all that, just have them
Starting point is 00:32:07 practice. Because there's a kid out there whose dad or parents bought them tickets for a game and set up in 300 level two months in advance, not knowing if their favorite player is going to play or not. Obviously, Joel was saying it before the season, so obviously he knows his body, but I don't like it overall. No, I don't think
Starting point is 00:32:23 that you can win a championship when there's just the continuity of rhythm when your best player or any player in the rotation is hitting out like that and I know there's new stats and analytics and I guess the sleeping is a massive piece of it all too because your guys's sleep schedule I guess is like the worst in the history of like even rock stars and people that have been on tour for music for a long time to have better sleep schedules than NBA players. So I think all that factors into the, hey, we're taking care of ourselves in these games. And the NBA acknowledges that it went too far.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Do the players acknowledge that, you think, or no? I think so, for sure. Because there will be times that I've heard that players want to play. But the analytics and the numbers say, you know what, your management, your load management has been so high the way you know they put the trackers on you on your jersey and practice to see you know your your your how how much you've run and all that stuff so they try to manage that to prevent injury but i think i'm a creature of habit i'd rather play even if it's not the highest level okay i'll practice instead of an hour and a half
Starting point is 00:33:23 i'll go an hour hard and tail off the last 30 minutes. At least I'm still in rhythm. And I think that protects me more from injury. So you have your way. And we've always talked about this with analytics in our world as well. It's like not everybody's built the same. You know, like I was a punter for a profession, you know. And they have counts now on people.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like counts. Like, hey, you're only allowed to hit 25 balls on this day or 30 balls on this day. And it's like, if that was happening when I was around, mentally, I'm not tough enough to do that. Because if at ball 25, I'm not hitting the ball well yet, it's like, we are still fucking going here. We are waiting until we get on a run. Until it feels good, right? Yeah, until I can sleep tonight. Like, you guys started cutting me off, and now I'm not going to be like, let's talk about the analytics in my sleep all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:34:06 because tonight I'm going to be like, am I the worst ever? Is it ever going to come back? I wonder how much that's all getting taken into in this analytics world. I assume water will find its level, though, at some point with the introduction of all this new information. I hope so, because any time big names are supposed to come play in Indiana, building sells out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:25 You know, it sells out. Not that the Pacers don't sell out every single time. The Pacers do. There's great basketball fans. But you go to those games where stars are in the building, you see a lot of those jerseys. And I've been in there a couple times. A lot of those jerseys, dad and son maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:40 coming in as his favorite player. And that guy's sitting there the whole time, just sitting there the whole time. And it's announced 30 minutes before the game. It's like, oh, Jesus. I'm happy they kind of figured that out, hopefully able to kind of get it right for the future. D-Butts has a question for you, Jamal.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah, Connor already talked about the wagon that the Celtics are. Unfortunately, who else in that East do you think can give them a run? I heard Reggie Miller on the call last night a couple times say, hey, the Knicks, they might be the second best team in the East, second best team in the league. I know you got the Knicks there. The Heat will always be competitive. The Bucs, obviously. Sixers probably not what they got going on, but who
Starting point is 00:35:16 else out of that East do you think can give the Celtics potentially a run for their money down the stretch? I was actually shocked, to be honest with you, with Dame and Giannis not clicking right from the start because I thought their games on paper fit perfectly. Then obviously Doc Rivers comes in, which is a
Starting point is 00:35:31 whole other thing as far as getting his system in place. I expect the Bucks to be better this year. I think the Knicks obviously will be a lot better. They may not be better in the regular season, which is interesting because I think it'll take time. In the playoffs, when you need space and every point counts, I think that's when Cat and Brunson's chemistry will really rise to the table.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I still think they need a little bit more on the bench. Deuce McBride had a great game last night, but just consistently. It might be Mikael Bridges starting the first unit for the first six, seven minutes and coming out earlier and then coming back with the second unit so he can put his scoring hat on. But I think the Knicks will be right there. Miami's always tough. You know, and I think we saw with Jimmy Butler this year in the summer, he's engaged, he's ready, he's ready to go.
Starting point is 00:36:13 They're always better in the playoffs. They have been the three of the last six finals, you know, so I think they'll be right there as well. What about on the West? We got Joker again. Is Joker just about to go on a run here? Is he pissed off about what happened in the Olympics? Because he was seemingly a little bit emotional. Very excited when they won.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Very boozed up. Did not know he was getting that medal, I don't think, on that particular game in the Olympics. Showed up, had a good time with his team, celebrating. They inevitably lose. Is he revenge? Who on the West will we be looking at? Phoenix?
Starting point is 00:36:43 They still got everybody? Phoenix still has everybody or no? Phoenix, yes, they do. And they got a point guard now, Pat. I think Phoenix is the dark horse in the West. And the reason why is because when you look at when Durant first went to Phoenix, him and Booker were almost overpassing each other's ball. It seems at some point they had lost that kind of continuity,
Starting point is 00:37:02 but I think the Olympics got it back. You see, Booker is one of the most important players, not because he was scoring. He was doing everything else. Durant was doing everything else. And then afterwards, the small thing, but the big thing, they go on vacation together right after the Olympics. So I think they'll be a dark horse contender.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Having a point guard now in Tyus Jones, who's as solid as they come, he'll take the thinking out from those guys. Do what you do best. Go score buckets, Brad Bill, KD, Book. I'll do the thinking. I'll put you guys in position. Coach Buzz is a great coach as well. I have Phoenix in the West. I think Denver will be there. I think Joker's the best
Starting point is 00:37:33 player in basketball. He's the guy you can combine four all-time greats in and Akeem and Bird and Magic and blend it up and now you got Joker. He's the guy that can bridge the 90s and this era playing bully ball and shoot threes. So I think they'll be there as well.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Okay, I appreciate the hell out of you. Ishbia down there in Phoenix will spend all the money. Yep, yep. He will pay the biggest luxury tax every year if he has to. We're going to win. And he was a baller. And he was a baller. Played at Michigan State.
Starting point is 00:38:00 We saw him in here. He knocked out a few. Yeah, he's got to jump. He's still got a shot. Still got a shot. Hey, oh, few. Yeah, he's got to jump. He's still got a shot. Speaking of that, I was about to say, because you're in Indiana, if you see a white dude from Indiana can shoot a basketball,
Starting point is 00:38:15 that is just kind of a rule of thumb. I learned that when I got out here. Hey, you want to go shoot? Do some of this? You want to play this? Whatever. And then you just get worked because they shoot a lot out here. You know what I mean? The Lakers, two start American whites out there.
Starting point is 00:38:32 This team got a, hey, let's go, dude. That's a big deal. Connect and Reeves. There was a couple moments they slapped hands. I saw lightning. Yeah, I saw it. I saw the whole thing happen. Jamal, you saw it too, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:38:44 You saw it. I did see it. They, Jamal. You saw it too, didn't you? You saw it. I did see it. They both have swag, though. They both got swag. I love both their games. I love how they play. I think the NBA is in a great spot with superstars. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Especially coming out of the Olympics. I think the Olympics was very good for basketball, professional basketball. And then like Wembley after the Olympics too. Him and Chris Paul now in San Antonio. And then also a documentary series. Yeah, yeah, the Starting Five documentary. Jamal, did you watch any of that, and were you surprised by anything you saw in there?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Because it was so much access from start to finish. I've only saw clips. I have to dive into it because I absolutely have to see it. I've heard definitely great things about it. Just going back to Wimby, I had the honor of working out with him this summer, and I'm going to say this on record. If he stays healthy
Starting point is 00:39:28 the whole way, he will be one of the top five players ever. I promise you guys, there's nothing like him. So you walked over to him and you go, hey Wimby, is this what it is when you're talking to him? Yeah, absolutely. I feel like a shrimp. I feel like a midget when
Starting point is 00:39:43 I'm standing next to him. He's just so tall and so athletic. It's crazy. It doesn't look real. It does not look real. There it is. It does not look real. He makes me feel like a little kid. It's crazy. I guess we stay away from
Starting point is 00:40:00 what you're talking, so it's not as drastic as a front row of the movie theater. You don't want to be there. You don't want as drastic as a front row of the movie theater. You don't want to be there. You don't want to be a front row movie theater. Thunder Alley. Yeah, because your neck's like this the whole time. Talking to Wemby, you go back to COVID rules with Wemby.
Starting point is 00:40:13 You stay six feet away from him. At all times. So you don't have to break your neck doing it. He started figuring it out towards the end of the year, right? And the San Antonio Spurs, they bring in Chris Ball. That should help with everything because he'll know who to get the ball to. Wasn't that kind of an issue last year? Yeah, it wouldn't pass him the damn ball.
Starting point is 00:40:27 He's wide open, cutting through the lane, and everyone wants to get their own shots. They know it's his team now, right? And Chris knows that. That's what Chris Paul was brought there for, right? Yes, and if you look at Chris Paul, you look at his help with young players, right? Looking from like SGA, people forget that that was like his protege.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So with Wimby, I talked to Chris, and he's like, man, this dude can do everything. So the fact that Chris is still playing but also mentoring and seeing Wimby go to the next step, Chris is going to give him insight like, not just time to score, but okay, it's the fourth quarter. We have to have a bucket. Where's your spot?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Things to think about. Like, okay, I know I'm going to this spot late in the game. This is my money spot. I can create for myself and my teammates. So Chris is having him open up his mind in that way. And little jewels like that will help pay off dividends for when we long term. What was your money spot? The middle of the court because you couldn't double team there. I could see everything, right?
Starting point is 00:41:19 And I could hesitation pull up. I could hesitation beat you. Or I could just get to my spot and get to the elbow. So anywhere in the middle of the court, that's always the hardest place to double team. If you don't, I just make the kick and make the read. You still got a little wiggle out there, or those joints can't do it anymore? Pat, are you serious? You better go
Starting point is 00:41:36 to my Instagram. It looks like I'm in hyperspeed right now, okay? The joints are feeling good. I'm not doing the AQ game grind. Right now, I'm still looking for Gilly the Kid because he wants to play one-on-one. He doesn't really want these problems. I'm in rare form right now. I feel better than I did in the book.
Starting point is 00:41:51 To be clear, though, when Gilly basketball clips hit your feed, it's like, God damn, he's pulling people. Well, you know, NBA players Obviously a little bit different animal Versus everybody else But are you any of that retirement science too? Is that why you're potentially playing at hyperspeed? Not all the way I just, you know, I got rid of the sprites
Starting point is 00:42:16 And I got rid of the Kool-Aid And I'm all water right now I'm eating a lot healthier I got rid of the candy So I'm feeling Oh, look, this is yesterday See what I'm saying? That's the Penny Hardaway spin.
Starting point is 00:42:27 We're a little dashed. Look, is that hyperspeed or what? It looks like I'm glitching. That's 2K right there. I'm going to create the system. The people you're playing against know what's about to happen? They know as soon as you're there, everybody understands what's about to take place?
Starting point is 00:42:42 I hope they do so I can reach further in my bag and do another move. I hope they know exactly what I'm going to do so it can make me a little bit better. Yeah, but if they pick you, if they get the ball from you or create a turnover, they're telling the story forever. I mean, Jesus Christ. That guy right there, that's a former NFL player. That's Torrey Humphrey right there from the Saints.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Well, you don't have to do that to an NFL guy. Do it to somebody else. I see somebody else around. Do that. I'm an equal opportunity abuser. Anybody can get it when they're part. We appreciate you joining us, man. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Jamal Crawford.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, Jamal! Just shows up in an LA Fitness. You guys running here? You guys running here? Yeah. Alright, real quick. Yeah, that'd be so awesome. Yeah, Zito wanted me to ask about him playing with the Rizzler and Big Costco and Little Costco. Didn't fit into our first conversation, but, I mean, he was certainly out there doing it.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I appreciate the fact that he is awesome. Yeah, he could, after watching that, too, and what he said about the bubble, like, he should go play for the Spurs. Like, we've talked to you. Last time we talked to him, I think he told you, like, yeah, I wasn't getting to teams to play defense. Like, he doesn't have to go to the Spurs and play defense. He's sitting in the corner and waiting for Wemby to pass him the ball.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah, because Wemby's playing defense against all five. Everybody, yeah. He's covering everybody at once. He's doing this if you're shooting a three. And if you're inside a paint, he's doing this. I mean, it's just two different. Crazy. This and this.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And it's over. While we were chit-chatting with Jamal Crawford about the NBA tip-off last night, fantastic job, association. Hell yeah, NBA. Way to go. A lot of storylines developing, obviously. in this and it's over while we were chit-chatting with jamal crawford about the nba tip-off last night fantastic job association oh yeah way to go a lot of storylines developing obviously a massive trade well another trade in the nfl titans making plays again aq shipley while we were talking to jamal crawford looked into the trade completely who was traded what was traded and why was the trade uh why did the trade happen? A.Q. Shipley, what did you find out?
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah, so it's a pretty even trade in my opinion. Jerome Baker, who Gumby knows well, he was a captain for the Miami Dolphins, a big thumper. He was a great player down there. He signs a big deal with Seattle, but thumpers don't really fit in Mike McDonald's defense. It's more movement and blitzing and all the different things. So they make a trade to Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Ernest Williams got sent in a trade before the season from the L.A. Rams. Ernest Jones, I'm sorry, gets sent in a trade from the L.A. Rams to the Tennessee Titans, and then Tennessee Titans trade him again. So he's been traded twice in a year. But Ernest was a backup primarily, backed up Troy Reeder, got his start against the Cincinnati Bengals in the Super Bowl. And then becomes a full-time starter. Gets traded to Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Doesn't fit there. Fits more in Seattle. So that's the trade. Pretty even trade, though. Perfect swap here, certainly, for schematics. That's correct. Ernest Jones, the fourth. There's been three others.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Wow. I don't know how many other trades for the first three EJs. Sure. But we do know this one happening twice if he's getting into a scheme that he likes and Jerome Baker's getting into a scheme That he likes that's good trade D Butch if that is how you take it now a fourth round pick also going to Tennessee, which is Fascinating in the conversation of who we rank higher here, you know in the entire leverage situation But if somebody finds a good home, that's good news.
Starting point is 00:45:45 That's all that matters. And you mentioned it. Scheme, scheme is everything for most players. It's rare. Probably 5%, 10% of NFL players can go and be successful in any scheme, playing for any coach. The rest of us, you better find a scheme that fits. For linebackers, he mentioned it. See, you got to move around.
Starting point is 00:46:01 You got to cover guys. You got to show in the mug, A-gap, drop and take somebody 30 yards down the field. Much better fit for Ernest Jones than it would be for a guy like Jerome Baker. Interesting that this trade didn't work out. I mean, this big signing didn't work out for Jerome Baker. Three for 39 with the Seahawks this offseason. Oh, so that's all coming then.
Starting point is 00:46:18 That's all coming. That's why the fourth rounder probably. Correct. Was that in there? That's a big contract. It's a big contract. Okay, so how did they not know this was, they just thought he'd figure it out, you think? Listen, I mean, it's so
Starting point is 00:46:28 many times GMs make decisions and they don't talk about it with coaches. That's typically what happens a lot of times. It's like, hey, take this player, make him fit. Just like D-Bud just said, it does not work. I mean, you can take every Hall of Famer and put them in a different system and they may not be the same player. Oh, you're talking fish out water situation.
Starting point is 00:46:43 A lot of them just look at numbers. Like a lot of decision-makers, and I'm not saying this for Seattle's GM. This situation in general. You're talking about. Just the whole in general. A lot of decision-makers just look at numbers, and they'll look at the actual players and how they would fit in that scheme. Just like, oh, this guy, he had this many sacks.
Starting point is 00:47:01 We need this. This many tackles. When I was doing some free agent visits, the people that they had as like comps for me, like completely different players, but similar statistics. So they'd be like, oh, yeah, this guy with fitness, completely different players. I mean, size, speed, everything.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So you'll be surprised at, I guess. How dumb people are. Is that what you're saying? The amount of football, X and O. All about numbers. It does not transition. We need sacks. A lot of are. Is that what you're saying? The amount of football X and O. All about numbers. It does not transition. We need sacks. A lot of times. This guy gets sacks. I don't see what we're talking about. You're the best coach
Starting point is 00:47:31 in the world. Make it work, bud. You don't like sacks? He can do it there. Can't do it here. Tell me why. To your problem, sounds like. Well, you see what they do. They actually have him in a completely different situation than what we would have him in. What he would be having to do for us is actually take somebody on and then go not just ears back and go there then do that then put him in that situation right now he was just
Starting point is 00:47:54 talking about with somebody like most i think 100 of his sacks and snaps came out of a four-point stance and he was standing up or vice versa so like once again on paper it'll look great but then actually having a conversation maybe with the player like hey do you like this system do you like four-point stance do you like coming off the left coming off the right so many different conversation variables that coaches and players would obviously be aware of but a lot of decision makers necessarily won't so it's interesting because i'm not sure unless the player represents himself if the team's really even allowed to reach out to the player and uh you know say hey have you ever been in this type of system before because of tampering issues or whatever so it's just agents having to relay message to teams and uh the more football
Starting point is 00:48:35 iq that an agent has seemingly could be better in the trade kind of happenings but then the agent's gonna say hey seattle's off in your 11th year the rest of these guys that's the number two you're nine and a half hey you know what i'll figure it out hell yeah i'm gonna become more athletic you can come off the edge right so this seemingly will work out for both teams i like how active the nfl has been yeah i really do like how active the nfl has been football has been great. Let's go to college ball. This weekend, college game day, he's traveling to Bloomington, Indiana for the first time on a Saturday in the show in school's history for football.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It is an absolute honor to say that the guy coaching that school in the state that we live in is an icon. Yeah, it's pretty simple. I win. Google me. I've never taken a backseat to anybody and don't plan on starting out. Purdue sucks.
Starting point is 00:49:38 But so does Michigan in Ohio State. Get out of here. What a bar. Rose Bowl has a lot of tradition. People that follow football. For me and the team, it's more of a business trip. Whether we're playing in a Rose Bowl or in a parking lot, it's all the same. Two times we were picked next to last.
Starting point is 00:49:54 In 2022, we won the conference championship. And in 2017, we inherited an 8-45 team and won eight in a row and played JMU the last game of the year for the conference championship. Now, I'm not into making predictions that's just a historical fact. Do we like the NCAA? When you can hide behind a committee like I wish when I was asked I wish when I was asked like why, why did you punt, I could say my subcommittee recommended I punt. Take charge and lead, leader.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Congratulations, coach. No, no, no, no, no. We're only halfway through the race, bro. And I like to get to the hotel as late as possible. I don't like spending a lot of time in a hotel and get there, feed them, maybe have a quick meeting in the evening and get up and play. My wait guy and my director of football ops, they've got all these designs. Go out Thursday, this is what you got to do. No, no, no. We ain't doing that, guys. We're going to get there as late as possible. We're going to wake up and we're going to play the game and we're going to come back. That's what we do. We got to the hotel about eight o'clock at night, ate our meal, went to bed, woke up,
Starting point is 00:51:03 played 3.30, kicked their ass, and came home. The guy is amazing. I think everybody's going to enjoy the hell out of experiencing Indiana University Hoosier football fan experience Saturday morning for game day. It is going to be wild. Those fans are ready. They've been waiting.
Starting point is 00:51:19 In everything that he said he was going to do for Indiana, he has done, and that has happened seemingly everywhere he's been. He's 62 years old. How come Indiana was the only place that basically gave him an opportunity? For that answer and more, we go to Hammer. Don, Don. Tone, what's the story behind Signetti?
Starting point is 00:51:36 How come it took this long for the whole world to know his greatness? And why was Indiana the only school that was like, yeah, we'll give this Yinzer Italian an opportunity here? I have no idea why Indiana was the only school to give the Yinzer Italian an opportunity because, yes, he is from Pittsburgh, born in Pittsburgh, then spent some time in West Virginia, went to WVU as a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:51:56 and then started his coaching career as a grad assistant at Pitt. And through his assistant coaching career, at all his stops, he was either a quarterback coach, mostly a quarterback coach, tight end coach, wide receiver coach. And then he got those four years under Saban at Alabama where he was the wideout coach down there under Saban. And that's when he finally got his first head coaching opportunity at IUP,
Starting point is 00:52:22 Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, hell yeah. Yeah, no association with the IU that he's at now. So he was at IUP for Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, hell yeah. Yeah, no association with the IU that he's at now. So he's at IUP for six or seven years. Then he was at Elon the one year he was talking about where he played James Madison. Then obviously the incredible run at James Madison when he took them and actually took them up to Division I, and they succeeded there.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And then obviously, you know, after the success there, he goes to IU and is just on an incredible run. And it's crazy. Like, I guess you just have to be under Saban to get your first head coaching opportunity. You've got to start at a D2 school in Western PA and then kind of go from there. Coaching is a network business. Everybody will say that.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah. NFL and in college. But being from – his dad was a coach. Where did his dad coach at, Tom? West Virginia, right? W, I believe. Yeah, he coached at w i believe yeah coach w i think coach high school as well whenever he was uh when he was born it's like his family is all football coaches so you would think his network would be a very good one but here we are getting introduced to him at 62 and this washington team i'm not saying they're not a good team now they're coming in obviously big 10 football is going to be great but he says
Starting point is 00:53:23 Now, they're coming in, obviously, Big Ten football is going to be great. But he says, I'm not making any predictions, okay? 2022, we're going to be last, we win a championship. 2017, we're supposed to do this, we're going to play in JMU in championship. I'm not making predictions, that's just historical facts. Everything he has said to the Indiana fans and to the media that he was going to do, he has done. They're on a fantastic run. Now, Curtis Rourke is obviously the quarterback who is former MAAC Player of the Year.
Starting point is 00:53:49 He was out this weekend with a thumb injury, had surgery on Monday. They're saying it went very well. He should be back in the very near future. But this weekend is almost like a hello to the world for Indiana as a football team. And if they can keep Cignetti there, I think they're set up for the long haul in this whole entire thing. Yeah, and that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Saying what he said he was going to do is one thing, but they're beating the shit out of people. A lot of times when we have a situation like this in college football and you see a team at this point in the season is 7-0, you go and look at their schedule and it's like, okay, well, if the ball bounced a different way, there's a good chance that this team's 3-4 or four and three like we talked about how good nebraska was they beat the shit out of nebraska last week like they are putting their foot on everyone's
Starting point is 00:54:33 throats and just killing people like so yeah and then you also talk like i believe he was also the recruiting coordinator at alabama when he was there for saban so like he knows how to recruit i think everyone is talking about hey like coaches now they need to be able to sympathize and know how to talk to these young kids because it's a different generation. I think there is something that's somewhat refreshing about a guy like him who makes no bones about who talks his shit and then backs it up. You can see how a lot of people are like, Indiana is not a traditional blue blood powerhouse, but the proof's in the pudding.
Starting point is 00:55:05 They win. They're a fun style of football. If you're a young recruit, why wouldn't you want to go play for a guy like this? Obviously, their collective might not be as much as some of the schools because they literally came here and put it together. Obviously, there's a basketball collective, I assume, in Indiana. Indiana has been a basketball school forever. Since the 70s, Bobby Knight wins. This is a basketball state.
Starting point is 00:55:24 They love it. But, man, the fire he has kind of lit underneath all the football fans in this state, school forever since the 70s bobby knight wins this is a basketball state they love it but man the fire he is kind of lit underneath all the football fans in his state who became colts fans like when the colts came here and peyton manning started having success you know it was a basketball racing city indianapolis basketball racing state then peyton manning comes in puts the colts on a map very quickly everybody's like yeah we love football we just had nothing really to go for so this weekend and what signetti has done puts a collective together he can recruit they're good he's not going to be competing with like alabama and georgia for recruits or oregon for recruits
Starting point is 00:55:54 he's going to get his guys in there and that's exactly what he did this year and if you buy into signetti i think what happens is you win yeah and you can google that that's right and that's not even his best quote. That's why I wanted to put that entire thing together. Every time this yinzer is at a mic, something great is coming out there. What were you going to say, Tone, is we have 45 seconds still hard out? So his dad did coach at WVU, but then he coached at IUP for 20 years and then went into the College Football Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:56:20 So that's probably how Sig got his coaching, like his head coaching debut at IUP is because his dad had to coach there for 20 years to do it. So we love Sig. It'll be a great Saturday morning from Bloomington. That's a wild bunch down there. They get after it. They do. Big time.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I'm pretty excited to see what it was. Texas was great. Oregon was great. Berkeley was great. First time at Berkeley, obviously, why they say it was insane. First time in Bloomington for football. It's going to be insane.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Wild. Beautiful day. I cannot wait for it. We're talking to Signetti on Friday. Also, guest picker announcements should be sweet. I think people are
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Starting point is 00:57:45 We had a great NBA chatter in the first hour. Look at that sports show. Sports Pro Girl. Get an opportunity to talk to NBA people was great. Legitimately put a tweet out earlier. The ESPN NBA roster, their daytime during the season, the schedule is bananas.
Starting point is 00:58:02 So trying to get anybody over there on a regular basis is tough now Austin Rivers was able to make it work last year for us which is incredibly kind of him he is I think doing his own thing now or he's somewhere else so it's like okay so trying to find who is going to be our NBA uh brain pretty much you know like that Jamal Crawford was awesome he was I can't thank him enough there's been a lot of people always is always legitimately always is played 21 years too and uh Big Woo got in great shape yeah Big Woo's got him in great shape over there so we're very thankful for him there's been a lot of people reaching out though saying like hey we'd love to come on show love
Starting point is 00:58:37 come on show we got to figure that out seems like we have too much uh awesome potential happening right now in the basketball world, maybe we dabble a little bit into the NBA world a little bit. Maybe we do try to learn a little bit because whenever there's no football on, and I know there was football on last night. Obviously, it was awesome. Saw the highlights. Saw the end of it.
Starting point is 00:59:02 It was cool. It was so good. Wednesday night football, so good. So good. Tuesday football, so good. Yeah. it was so good. Wednesday night football, so good. So good. Tuesday football, so good. Yeah. Laugh is so good as well. So good, yeah. If they were to put football on Wednesday afternoons, we'd watch.
Starting point is 00:59:12 It'd be so cool. It'd be so... But every once in a while, you just change the channel and there's like NBA on. And it's like, wow, this is... And we're starting here at the beginning of the season. So we got an opportunity maybe to follow a little bit. Has the NBA been good? Has the NBA storylines been good?
Starting point is 00:59:26 Oh, yeah. For me, Olympics made me be a fan of everybody almost. Because how, and it's going to sound so ridiculous, but the way they just were like, nah, we're just going to win for America. I got real excited. I'm like, thank you to these dudes. And I talked to Scotty Scheffler this past weekend. He took it very seriously,
Starting point is 00:59:45 winning a gold medal for the United States. He said, we ended up tying, I think, or very close in the gold medal count. Yep. Like I, like I think the NBA guys that were playing in the Olympics felt the same
Starting point is 00:59:54 exact way. They're like, we need to do this for the United States of America. It almost made me enjoy. I'm like, I can't wait to watch the NBA now because how much respect I had. And it wasn't just our guys like Wemby for France, seemingly getting emotional. Sure. Joker getting emotional for certain like it was like it was
Starting point is 01:00:09 awesome to almost see like the real passion because the knock on the NBA is these guys don't care and obviously with the load management this is literally just a business who cares and I think the Olympics proved to everybody like that was for shit right like 800 bucks 800 bucks, whatever it is. They just wanted to win. It was like, I'm in. So, Jamal Crawford, thank you. I think we're going to have some big names throughout the history of the NBA that are going to stop by this program throughout the season. We'll follow along.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Not as much as we follow along with the NFL. Which leads to, we are on Walt Wednesday. He's just moments away. The Talks Table is here. At Boss at Corner. At Ty Schmidt. Calm man. J.J. Watts excited today, I think.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah, he's juiced up. I mean, there are so many things to talk about. He actually, you know, he has a couple questions for us, I think, maybe a few of us about some specifics. And then when you just talk about the slate of football we had this past weekend, I think he is jazzed up to get after it. I do love the fact that he's the most prepared person coming on our show. By far.
Starting point is 01:01:03 The most prepared. Hey, if you want to bring up, I've done, like, J.J. Watt, I think, this is 90% luck. Exactly. 10% skill. 15% concentrated power and will. That's J.J. Watt football. They played that before the Colts this week, by the way.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I think he's pretty. That's why they won. Yeah, but the Texans weren't there. If they were doing it for that, it would obviously be problematic. Just like when they played turn down for what and they were acting like
Starting point is 01:01:28 they were rubbing it in J.J. Watt's face. You weren't. You were feeding him. You were feeding him in an away stadium. Nonetheless, he's ready. And we are excited to hear
Starting point is 01:01:38 what J.J. Watt's bringing because he tried to poach a Concava soccer club player. He certainly did. And you know what? He poached the right one. Because that guy sucks anyway. No, he doesn't. We like that guy. We're in the transfer market
Starting point is 01:01:49 now, brother. Whoa, gulps! That has not been voted on. Oh, it is. It's in. We're in the transfer market. I'm in it right now. I'm looking around. Culture killer. I mean, what are we talking about here? What happens? He's the first guy to do it. He's not even the best player. He's not even close to being the best player. Whoa, bro! When the best players come to town, then what happens? He's the first guy to do it. He's not even the best player. He's not even close to being the best player. Whoa, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:05 When the best players come to town, then what happens? Well, I will say there is a concave for leadership council group text message. I'm going to love that was pouring in there for being a part of the community. Yeah. A concave for community. Exactly. It's good to hear. Because I was thinking about yesterday, shutting down a whole team.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah. Shutting down a whole building. Vote them off the island. This is how people are going to act? We only played one tournament and all of a sudden I'm in a negotiation with Burnley? Burnley, sorry, STST? No. No way.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Why am I doing this? I tore my hip flexor. I'm out. The universe, I thought, was telling me to not do this. And then last night, that group text this morning, man, hey, lift me right up. You got real concave pillars in there. Jeff Cameron, Breck Shea. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Meat. Maz. Faso. Did you hear from Meat? Meat? Yeah, did you hear from him? Heard from Meat. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Meat's excited. He's training for TSD. Not retired. Meat's already. Meat is your favorite soccer player. If you've never watched Meat soccer, he's the guy you want to pull for. Meat's good. Meat's in the want to pull for. Meat's good. Meat's in the index.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Thank God. Meat's good index. He's training already for TSD. Boom. But Gorilla saying, hey, you give me a little, give me like four extra bucks, I'll leave Concave. It's like, I thought we built something here. He also doesn't care about winning if he's going to Burnley.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It's just about the four bucks. Not to mention, to point out the obvious. What's that? He's Italian. Coach Meola, to point out the obvious. What's that? He's Italian. Coach Meal is Italian, too, but... Yeah, but he's American-made. What are you saying? Let's go to Hammer.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Don. Ton. Anthony DiGiulio. What the hell is this guy saying here about Grilla, you think, pal? He's a scumbag. Who? Not Grilla. Not Grilla.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Connor is a scumbag. We know that gorilla connor is a scumbag we know that uh he's got potatoes running through his blood so it's hard to think watch your mouth damn right i'd do ireland's got a lot more than just potatoes remember we drank all the beer they got yeah again i think you get a lot of getting ice oh actually you guys don't have any potatoes because you ruined it because there was a famine congrats that's not how that works when famines and things come around it's not just like the people that decided not how that works when famines and things come around it's not just like the people that decided to do that yeah they made it in a lab you guys chased away all the snakes wait a minute well that's saint patrick and he's a dog he was italian
Starting point is 01:04:14 his name was patrick so let's just assume that if he was italian at the time he identified as irish oh italians taking credit for something that they didn't do who would have thought well then they don't take credit for that one thing they did. Yeah, Mussolini guy. We were hired. That's not what I'm talking about. He's talking about Jesus. I'm talking about Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:04:31 We were hired. Oh, that's another one. Yeah. Well, you. They just killed the Messiah, Tony. Well, they were hired. How would he come back? If you didn't kill him, how would he come back?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Hmm. Well, that's a good question. That's a good question because how would they have known? They would have never known. 33, what if he's 75? Can he still move a rock? We don't know. No. He would have been able to finish the story. That's right. Bingo. Finish your story, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Cody Rhodes Christ. Thank you, Italians, I guess, for doing that. No way. Changed the world. Changed the world a lot. There's still a lot of stuff happening right now because of that whole thing. That's right. And that's, it's beautiful. And also there's some cases where it's like.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Not beautiful. Not beautiful. But God bless everybody. God bless you all. That's right. Especially you Italians who I love. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm just talking about the one.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Not Grella? Yeah. What was he doing? He's trying to get off our team, go to. Watt's team. We've talked on this show extensively about how bad Burnley is. Yeah. Their actual championship team over there, they're getting back up, obviously.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Sure. The TST Burnley team. Worst in the entire tournament. So bad. Worst in the entire tournament. Even J.J. was like, hey, can we figure it out out here? J.J. tried to fight the refs. Like, that's who you want to play for? He tried to fight everybody. I actually don't mind that move. I would do it too, but the
Starting point is 01:05:50 way, what happened there, I don't know. Do you want to be a part of that for an extra couple shillings, Grilla? A couple fucking shillings? You question Concava's culture? Yeah, I didn't like it either, Gump. Now everyone's questioning it. No, they aren't. Not in a group text I was in. There's a one guy.
Starting point is 01:06:07 One Italian-American guy. Ship him to Burnley for a bag of balls. Okay. I mean, that's certainly on the table. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. D-Butch, obviously you've been following closely with the Concava TST situation that's been brewing where Grella, host of CBS Galazzo, a soccer show on CBS Sports, had J.J. Watt, owner of Burnley,
Starting point is 01:06:30 both the team that's in the championship league over in England, which is one below the Premier League, and also a team in TST. And Grella's co-host, I guess, and him say, hey, why don't you get Grella on Burnley? And Grella goes, you know what? Pat gave me $20,000. You give me $25,000 and a captain ban. I'll go over there. Wow. Burnley? And Grella goes, you know what? Pat gave me 20 grand. You give me 25 and a captain ban.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I'll go over there. Wow. Burnley was cheeks. We had good culture, I thought. Thought. Grella helped put the team together. Now he's just willing to leave for a couple extra bucks. That's not good, D-Bud. At least you know where he stands now.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Grella, look, he's trying to strike while the iron's hot. He had probably the most viral moment from that tournament. Made some plays, made a play. So, you know, I'm interested to see what comes out of that Zoom meeting you guys have. Are you going to attend the Zoom meeting as an advisor or a consultant? Sure, absolutely. Just because the concave leadership committee that has certainly been in place for a long time before this happening um is upset about the precedent
Starting point is 01:07:25 this could set you know for everybody else that's it but Pat it's also a little concerning that gorilla being a man uh that he is an Italian man uh would want to go to a place where the team is has an owner that likes the metal you know puts himself into the lineup you know mingles with the players oh yeah giving tours of the facility, things like that. I subbed myself in a couple opportune times as well, but what you're saying is J.J. on the field for the entirety of that game. You also played soccer. Well, J.J. owns a soccer team.
Starting point is 01:07:56 He does. So kind of osmosis in this entire thing. 12-year NFL vet A.Q. Shipley joins us. A.Q., you've won a Super Bowl as a player coach. What would you do in this situation with Grella potentially threatening to leave for such a small purse of money? Kind of an Antonio Brown situation. Yeah, ship him out ASAP.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Really? Yeah, I can't. He's good on this show. He's trying to fracture the culture. He's good on this show, though. He is. He's great on this program. Bring him on the show.
Starting point is 01:08:22 As a Concava supporter, I just want a championship, and I think Grella can help us win the championship. You say, hey, figure it out. These types of things are going to happen with superstars. Yeah, it could be addition by subtraction, though, also. You might have to ship them out of town to be a better team. You never know. Well, there's some free agents out there with some big names
Starting point is 01:08:39 who Grella potentially, you know, does he dote with in the last few weeks. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from Manatee in Ohio, number one supporter of TST. Yeah. Soccer fan, A.J. Hawk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:53 A.J., the drama around Concava has really started to captivate the room here at the Thunderdome. Nobody knows what the actual outcome is going to be. It is going through its current process of voting and Grella did say that he would like at least have a say in defending himself afterwards. We don't know if the decision will already be made by that point, but you're around the team,
Starting point is 01:09:16 AJ. Didn't that team feel real? Didn't it? It felt real. No, that team was real. That was an absolute real team. That was my favorite soccer I've watched, was being there. There's so much action going on and seeing it up close and personal. But we need Grella. TST needs Grella. He's a glue guy.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Not a glue guy. Not anymore. Not a glue guy, brother. He's good, though. I think he's making content. I think he's making content. He's like, hey, everything is content. I'm just going to do this.
Starting point is 01:09:39 It's going to be a clip. Here we go. This is going to bring positive vibes. We're trying to win a tournament. All this guy does is bitch. All right, Coach Gump. Coach Gump wants him out of there so he can play. I'm here.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Grella. I don't want to play at all. I heard him bitch about the sandwiches that were being served. I heard him bitching about the money now. I'm sure he bitched about the showers or some bullshit too. If Grella's in, I'm out. I'm rooting for fucking Burnley at TST
Starting point is 01:10:06 no way joining us now ladies and gentlemen this man who's tampering and poaching on live streaming television the owner of the Burnley trash TST team and also the good championship
Starting point is 01:10:23 team in England Houston Texans ring of honor member JJ Watt trash TST team and also the good championship team in England. Houston Texans Ring of Honor member J.J. Watt. Yeah, J.J. J.J., I want to let you know, I hope you're happy with what you've done. There has been quite a stir at Concava headquarters and now Leadership Council is meeting
Starting point is 01:10:38 and there's a lot on the line. People are calling for you to potentially be punished for tampering and trying to poach live on air. Do you have anything to defend yourself with? And I hope you're happy. I genuinely hope you're happy. I'm so happy.
Starting point is 01:10:52 This last 10 minutes has been watching a plan in action perfectly. You guys just ripping each other apart from the inside out. This is fantastic. Didn't even have to do anything. Okay. We're not ripping each other apart. We're closer than we've ever been. Connor just left the squad.
Starting point is 01:11:07 No, we're closer than we've ever been over here at Concave. The team is fine. The fireman adds to the team, however. Yeah, sure. We are a little bit of a team. You're wearing clear and blue now. You guys lost your blue guy. He's walking on the wrong side of the pole.
Starting point is 01:11:20 If he's on that Ravens team, he's walking on the other side of the pole. He's on the wrong side. Gump is – he doesn't know what's going on. AJ's playing with Gump. I don't know what's going on. Who said Grella was a glue guy? Who said that? Were you in the room? Were you in the change room? AJ said he's a glue guy.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Yeah, he's not, brother. He's a great player. I don't know about a glue guy. He's going to be around, though. He was going to be around. He was great to be around. Can we get back to the main part of it you were paying players nobody else what is this nobody else was paying players uh jj everybody in that tournament's paying players buddy like your team's stuff brother no no nobody had the dude wipes contract to be just launching out cash left and right and you still didn't win i mean
Starting point is 01:12:04 somebody's cashing didn't win the team mean, he paid cash and didn't win. The team that won, I learned their paying strategy as well. I mean, don't worry. That was year one. Yeah, if you win, because there's a million-dollar prize. No, they were, dude. JJ, they were. I don't want to get into it.
Starting point is 01:12:17 The team that won was doing some dirty work to get to where they got. Dirty work. They had a big roster, brother. We need to do that. We didn't see 20 of them that were on the roster that signed contracts. Potentially, you got a little bit of money. So you acting like nobody's paying.
Starting point is 01:12:31 What are you talking? You just showed up down there with a million bucks and you don't think people are trying to take advantage? You're insane. What are you talking? The naivety. Are you just always in the gym? Like, how do you not?
Starting point is 01:12:41 What are you talking about? What are you even talking about? And yeah. We did it straight up. We played straight up, fair and square. Fair and square. There's no rules against paying the players. So, would you have split the million dollars even though if you won, did you go over that?
Starting point is 01:12:56 Or did you get a bigger chunk? Yeah, we went over that. No, we went over that. I learned that as well. I learned that as well. There's payment plans, and there's been precedent set on how to divvy up the million bucks you know because there's a lot that goes into that and then there's people that are clearly more important in this situation you know so yeah bob there's no rules against that crank that's concave for real deal brother and also all these guys taking time out
Starting point is 01:13:20 of their life to come do this a lot of time a lot of time a ton a lot of time out there like and we're making content out of it and everything like that it's like uh they should be paid for their time JJ geez JJ North Carolina what are you getting win get a million what is this Arena League you're running an Arena League operation up there judge speaking of content speaking of content I want to revisit something from last week because I saw Stephen A. talk about it after we talked about it. Clearly, he saw that it drummed up a lot of discussion.
Starting point is 01:13:52 The plunger situation. Yeah, the sleeves. I think we were all talking about this like it's like your buddy's house and you're just hanging out with your buddy. I was looking at this as, let's say you were dating a girl for the first time and you stopped at her parents' house for the first time ever.
Starting point is 01:14:09 That's the situation I'm looking at. I'm looking at this is like DEFCON 1. This is the end of the world. You're at her parents' house. You can't just call a DoorDash. You can't just say, hey, something's wrong. What do you do in that scenario? Yeah, that's what greg meant too in j j the fact that age said you door dash a plunger um you know it was
Starting point is 01:14:32 probably the most 2024 answer that you could give a very good answer that's a very good answer try not to take a dump there first jade your first time showing up at her house you probably don't want to take a dump oh absolutely i agree you definitely don't take her out to indian food or something before your first time first time at the future in-laws potentially where's your uh best throne which one can i in upstairs downstairs we got uh believe it or not after talking about that we got sent 10 plungers. And, Ty, you said these plungers don't work. Those things stink. These ones?
Starting point is 01:15:07 Yeah. No, that's pretty good. That's a heavy do-it-yourself. This one's got a deep... I don't like that kind. This one's sucking the actual poop. I don't like that kind either. I like the half circle.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah, the half moon. So the half circle, which this one began as, I think, and they added the nozzle, if you will. Like the circumcised one. You like the cut? Yeah. Yeah. Take the top back. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Yeah, I understand that. The original. The OG. The wood handle. Snip that pond. Yeah, but this one is just a, this one's a pressure giver. This one's trying to suck the poop out of it. Yeah, it sits in there, too.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah, it's actually trying to get the poop out. Yeah, that's gross. Yeah, and then you dump it back in. Boom, boom, boom, boom. That's what he's doing. So I think this actually trying to get the poop out. That's gross. Yeah, and then you dump it back in. Boom, boom, boom, boom. That's what he's doing. The auger conversation stirred up a lot. Ty stirred up a lot of discussion with the auger conversation.
Starting point is 01:15:54 That's what you need. I mean, yeah, if you have a rabbit taking a shit on the toilet, that thing might work, but if you have a human who's dropping an absolute nuke, that thing is not getting the job. How about the titanic ones that come back up through the water yep and uh i think you gotta know ahead of time that there's potential trouble on the horizon yeah that's a million down flush yeah once again that is a
Starting point is 01:16:16 public pooping if you are an active bladder the timing of the flush has to be once you feel it leave hasn't hit water yet so there's no time even in public you know that poop is butthole pipe timing of the flush water slide just have to bingo we're in and out not even a streak because the water's kind of kind of doing that over there but if you missed out the wipes flush again yeah but if you miss time it is dry down there once again that's worst case scenario sometimes you can try getting up and if you miss time it is dry down there once again that's worst case scenario sometimes you can try getting up and if you have a good stream you try to cut your logs in half with your yes absolutely absolutely have to do that yeah it's not gonna have a real nice uh air
Starting point is 01:16:56 freshener in there too with some spray some some cashmere woods is a common scent that I'm a big man or you can have some pumpkin spice dude wipes. After you drink your coffee or your pumpkin... You a pumpkin spice guy? You a pumpkin spice guy? One time. Just to get in the fall spirit, yes. One time. Were you in the fall spirit? You decided
Starting point is 01:17:18 fuck fall going forward? Never did it again? I love fall. I love fall. I am more of a caramel apple spice guy than a pumpkin yeah i like the caramel apple we don't have caramel asshole dude wipes yet we just have dumpkin spice uh dude wipes uh that have a nice little pumpkin smell uh after you get a nice clean wipe of the cheeks in the fall because when you're drinking more coffee because the weather's turning obviously coffee is an activator for what we're talking about so you can get dumpkin spice dude wipes right now yeah
Starting point is 01:17:48 no that's great for you smelling better but it has nothing to affect the air oh you gotta get that air circulating brother i can't get yourself some dumpkin spice jade i have them i don't have the dumpkin spice i have i have what's uh you see uh the original cocoa butter look at cocoa butter I don't have the Dunkin' Spice. I have... What's your name? Gizzy. The original. Cocoa Butter. I'm going to have Cocoa Butter. You got the Cocoa Butter ones? Oh, you should get the peppermint ones.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Maybe get the pepper ones. It sounds like it could sting. You never know what it does. It's kind of a good sting. Yeah, it doesn't sting like that. It is so much better for your butt. And speaking of clogged toilets, one. Only need one.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah, one. Only need one. Don't need to overdo it all i need one all right let's talk about uh a little bit of football stuff here shall we in the nfl might as well we appreciate how prepared you are how much you look into we genuinely do nobody else that we've talked to ever does that so whenever you send the message over like hey i've looked into this if you want to bring this up you make our life easier we appreciate you jade oh yeah j this. If you want to bring this up, you make our life easier. We appreciate you, J. Oh, yeah, J. We appreciate you. Happy to.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I'm going to be honest. I thought you expected that from me. So that's why I do it every week. We do. We do. Every time. And I'll tell you what, it needs to get better and better each week. Because if we're not getting better, what are we doing?
Starting point is 01:18:57 We're getting worse. That's right. And then we're not utilizing that 80% luck, 20% skill. That Saban nothing speech. I like Saban's nothing speech this week. That was good. How epic was that? That was great.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Love it. How about him when he started walking towards the front of the gym? I was like, oh, fuck. All right, we're going. We are. We're going up here because he was about to address. You know what? These Texas kids need to hear this actually right now.
Starting point is 01:19:21 When you wake up in the morning, what are you owed? Nothing. Fucking right. That's what we're talking about. He's awesome. need to hear this actually right now when you wake up in the morning what are you owed nothing fucking right that's what we're talking about he's awesome he took some notes from the pat mcafee school of showmanship he stepped up to the front to let everybody know i need you to respond to me right now chest out so as soon as he was talking there he starts like moseying towards front of stage and you see like all right we are projecting now, kind of like an indicator of this is where we're headed to. And he naturally is like a professor, I think, of football.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Like, the way he talks and teaches and his, like, his optimism seemingly in everything. And it's like, he is, he's amazing. He is a genuinely amazing. What's the best thing you've learned about him this year working with him? All his speeches about, are about consistency pretty much. Everything is just about, hey, you need to have consistency. But it's all in how you deliver the message.
Starting point is 01:20:11 You know how coaches will be at one place for a long time and their message will get dry, right? The message will get stale. We hear about this for teams. It's like the way he goes about saying things just is always like, oh, never thought about it that way. Oh, never thought about it that way. The way he phrases it. And then he'll have a story about shit that has happened. And then his punchlines are real. You know, he sells cars, you know, and he had to
Starting point is 01:20:33 recruit. So you have to be affable. You have to be, have personality. And then obviously his football IQ is, you know, been around the game forever. It's like, he's all, he's been perfect for game day. Perfect. Forget college game day. Yeah. That's awesome. He's been perfect for game day. Perfect for college game day. It's awesome. It's been a great addition. It's so cool to have the different perspectives and to have somebody who's literally possibly up there with the best of all time.
Starting point is 01:20:56 It's cool. You guys play off. I gave myself a little leeway just in case some Bear Bryant person came after me. No, they know. That would be Alabama people, and they know. That field's called Saban Field at Bryant. Yeah, so, I mean, it is kind of both.
Starting point is 01:21:13 But I think Saban is the GOAT. I think everybody just kind of understands that. There's some people that don't like it, but then whenever they see him on game day, I'm seeing a lot of like, man, I like Nick Saban a lot more whenever he's not the head coach at Alabama. It's like, how could you not him singing songs during commercial breaks i'm like this guy and then sark said i've never seen him smile so much what who the hell is this yeah that's what a lot of people think i think he's enjoying it too he was speaking in morgantown west virginia yesterday whoa maybe not morgantown yeah he was speaking in west virginia yesterday telling people like
Starting point is 01:21:42 hey football is still fun. You're recruiting him? You're recruiting him. Yeah. I've been trying. I'm like, but I don't think he's getting back into coaching. Saw some tweets that he was going to WVU. There were some tweets last night. There's one man for the job at West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Who? His name's John Gruden. Who? That would be nice-y, John Gruden. Neil Brown is still the head coach, though. Of course. All right, let's get into some football, shall we? All your notes that you took, studies.
Starting point is 01:22:12 What's happening in Baltimore is awesome. We chatted with Tone about this because he has an AP vote, and there's been two times in the past where quarterback wins the MVP, running back wins offensive player of the year. It kurt warner and marshall falk both of those times okay greatest show on turf everything that they're doing yards per play explosion rate run rate like everything they're doing is surpassing what the greatest show on turf was doing their must watch they have power they have flash they have it all what do you see him from this ravens team and why do you like him so much jageage? Oh, I mean, it's pretty obvious.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Todd Munkin has only added a weapon to his arsenal and is now using it perfectly. I mean, what they're doing from an offensive standpoint, literally, you look at the rankings every single week and it's number one, number one, number one, number one, number one, number one. They're the best at rushing the ball. They're the best at passing the ball. They're just, everything is working.
Starting point is 01:23:02 And obviously when you add a player of Derrick Henry's caliber to this offense and he comes in and plays the way that he is, also helped by how they run this offense, it's just an incredible one-two punch with him and Lamar. You know my feelings on MVP. It is and always will be and always should be a quarterback award because they affect the play more than anybody else every single game, every single play.
Starting point is 01:23:24 So I think that Lamar is certainly potentially in line for a third MVP right now. A question that I have, I have a couple questions for AP Tone, but a question that I have is that you have Jaden Daniels right now, who he's a rookie. Obviously, we're hoping he plays this week. We'll see what happens. But he is currently doing something that no player in NFL history has ever done. He has 75% completion percentage, 200 yards passing per game, and 50 yards rushing per game. No quarterback in NFL history has ever done that in a seven-game span. I feel like when a rookie comes in,
Starting point is 01:23:56 he takes his team to the record that the commanders are at right now, and he does something nobody in NFL history has ever done. To me, that is MVP worthy at this moment there's a full season left to play but where do you stack an offense like Lamar and what he's doing and Jaden Daniels right now tone MVP race which one's winning it today hold on I'd like to add on to that too because you talk about Jaden Daniels then you can go assistant coach Cliff Kingsbury how much does that get in there because he's a rookie doing something and nobody's ever done head coach being able to turn like there's so many things that go into that one question
Starting point is 01:24:27 don't you think for these all these awards yes that's my other thing is like coach of the year assistant coach of the year etc what kind of everybody always talks about Andrew Reed Spags those guys are the chiefs because they're just doing it year after year do you still as a voter you're a voter would you rather a guy that turned around a rough situation dan quinn in washington turned around this team and made them something that they were not going to be or is the established guy do they deserve some credit because sometimes they're overlooked so i haven't voted yet so i haven't got to that point in december where i've had to cast a ballot or whatever but it has traditionally over the last few years become sorry excuse me a
Starting point is 01:25:06 situation like dan quinn like with dayball with stefanski they won in 21 22 i believe that was taking over a bad situation and then over performing with that team or like stefanski last year where the browns were just a walking morgue and then still continued to win games and get to the playoff, that's kind of been where the coach of the year has gone in that situation. So this year, a KOC Dan Quinn would be the situation where you're overperforming, over-expected. I don't think you could leave out those other guys that are – they were like the Lions and the Chiefs.
Starting point is 01:25:44 You're supposed to have good teams, but you can't penalize a coach for then, I don't know, then actually having a good team. In Andy Reid's situation, they're the only undefeated team left. Plus, they also have that injury thing where they have just on offense been bit every single week with an injury to their top guys, and especially in Andy's case because he is the mastermind of that offense, they have just continued to keep winning football games. So I think traditionally it's been someone who's taken over a shitty situation
Starting point is 01:26:12 and overperformed or dealing with adversity, whether it be injury or whatever, and then still succeeding even though you're supposed to be a top dog. And then the MCDC situation is just like, that guy is his team. He's got the pulse of his team better than anybody. But which will you vote? I can't tell you. He can't say that. It's his watch list right there. It's too early, man.
Starting point is 01:26:32 You can't lean which one you think is more close. It's those five right there I think is who he's leaning right now. We don't want Tone to lose his AP vote. He has been very close, we think, obviously, a few times. There's a couple rules. We would like him to continue to have it close we think obviously a few times uh there's a couple rules yeah we would like him to continue to have it because we think it's i think these are good questions from you and if we have an ap vote we're obviously going to treat it differently than
Starting point is 01:26:53 everybody else and how they're going to treat it so tone kind of figuring it out and sorting it that's why he's been doing the research on how it's normally gone to potentially see how he should look at it but also trying to do his own thing let. Let's go to the MVP watch list to answer your question about Jaden and Lamar up there. He doesn't have Jaden up there, probably because of the rookie award that's available. Is that right, Tone? Well, I narrowed that one down to three.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Like, if it would have been five, Jaden would have probably been on there. But I narrowed it down to three because I thought these ones were just leaves. Like, Josh Allen hasn't turned the ball over yet, and he's Josh Allen. Jared Goff is on a historical run the last four games as far as what he's doing. And then Lamar, we talked about everything that he's done. So that's why those three were up there right now. But I'm not disagreeing at all with JJ in that situation. And, yeah, if we had a rookie of the year graphic,
Starting point is 01:27:36 I assume there's a heavy, heavy favorite in that situation. Yeah, so that is interesting, though, because he could win MVP, he could win offensive player of the year, and he could also win rookie of the year. And usually with these votes, and, J.J., you tell me how it's interesting, though, because he could win MVP, he could win Offensive Player of the Year, and he could also win Rookie of the Year. And usually with these votes, and, Jade, you tell me how it's gone your way, they almost, like, would prefer to get more people in there. So it almost, like, cuts the guy out of the potential MVP. Is that why you're asking, Jade? Yeah, because I also think in that exact scenario you're talking about,
Starting point is 01:27:59 I think that people don't want to give a rookie MVP. I think they think Rookie of the Year award, that's his recognition. He gets that recognition no matter how good he plays. Yeah, that's his MVP. You kind of have to prove it over time to earn an MVP award, which I 100% completely disagree with that. Who knows how this is all going to play out over the course of the rest of the year. We're only about seven weeks in. But I mean, if he continues to play at a rate that nobody in the history of the league has ever done, and he continues to play at a rate that nobody in the history of the league has ever done, and he continues to elevate this team to where they go on and possibly win this division, possibly win some playoff games, I mean, that would be the definition of a most valuable player.
Starting point is 01:28:35 He was drafted, he came in, and he turned an entire organization around in one year. That's the most valuable player. Judge, Tone could be the swing vote. That was good campaigning right there. I am easily swayed. And it is election season. Yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:28:48 And make sure you get out and trade early. That's right. And vote for AP awards. Not early. We need to vote for those late. No, I hate how that's always voted also.
Starting point is 01:28:58 When is the voting for that, Tone? December something. No, 13. There's games played in January. I can't stand that, man.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Yeah, me too. I can't stand how we don't vote until like, or even sometimes they wait until the last day, but everybody already knows who they're voting for. You have no idea. All 17 weeks should matter. Well, also, no offense to Tone, because he has one of those. It was hard for me at my position to take media votes seriously.
Starting point is 01:29:22 You know, like, I was voted All-Pro, and I was voted not all pro and i did not care either way because they have no idea what the they're talking about my position you know my position they have no clue what it is pro bowl kind of the same thing but these votes and these votes matter though like for a lot of these positions. Like a lot of positions, they matter. Hall of Fame ballots, you know, like Adam Vinatieri, he's up for the Hall of Fame, I think, this upcoming year. And, you know, no kicker's ever been a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 01:29:55 But they're going to list out all of his awards that he got from, you know, media people included, as well as everything else. And that's like the pitch for why he deserves to be first ballot, which could be, but I don't know if he has as many Pro Bowls as people included, as well as everything else. And that's like the pitch for why he deserves to be first ballot, which could be, but I don't know if he has as many Pro Bowls as people think because his percentage each year, like somebody's like 92%. Vinny was always like 85%, but hitting every big ball. So it's like how many Pro Bowls did he make by people that didn't really know what was happening in front of their eyes?
Starting point is 01:30:22 It's interesting how important these votes actually are in reality of the football world. I mean, the Devontae trade, one of the stipulations is that he's first or second team All-Pro and that becomes a second round pick. That's huge. That is a massive piece of information. It all is down to Tony Diggs. So I pulled up the email
Starting point is 01:30:40 to make sure I have the actual information. We have to send our completed NFL awards ballot by 5 p.m. Eastern Wednesday, January 8th. That is the Wednesday after the final week of the regular season. Okay, that's going into 459, too, Tone. We need every piece of information. I agree.
Starting point is 01:30:55 We need every piece of information. The NBA ones are always wild to me because their contracts, like literal contracts, it's written in there. Like you can get a Supermax. They're affecting tens of millions of dollars the nfl is as well but not necessarily as literally the nbas are literally if you make first team all pro you can get this much more money it's incredible and all based on a media member like you want to talk about potential possible corrupt issues like you get
Starting point is 01:31:21 the right media member to vote for you it's the right thing you could have tens of millions of more dollars on here well then you talk about the complete flip side of that like the mlb they have what they control the hall of fame and everything right yeah the writers do yep they're right so if they have if they don't like you you know yeah because your media relations aren't good it's like all of a sudden you can hear those stories at a bar later i was screwed they didn't like me i was never voted this i was never voted that it's like that's coming from an athlete's perspective all of us that are talking right now so i hope the media members don't get pissed off and we know you have no biases and we know you know everything
Starting point is 01:31:55 about punting when you're voting on all pro punters that are potentially changing you know contracts and careers forever we appreciate you doing all the research that you do into that entire thing. And Tone, you're going to do a great job with it. Thank you. It matters, Tone. That's why these conversations are a big deal. We appreciate you bringing them up.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Conman has a question for you, Jage. Yeah, Jage, on the opposite end of the MVP spectrum, there are some teams out there, the Patriots included, that are basically already planning their vacations here. What are the motivators for some of these teams that are basically already planning their vacations here. What are the motivators for some of these teams that are just in the dumps right now? How do they keep showing up every single week? And then what are a few teams you think that might, you know, have the idea that they should start planning some vacations?
Starting point is 01:32:39 Yeah, I think the Panthers are on that list. I think the Panthers are on that list. The moment between SVP and Steph Curry was great at the end of his interview the other day. But I think that the motivators, there's a couple different categories that you're in. Some of these teams, like you're losing a couple close games and your record may not be what you want it to be, and you're like, guys, we're still a great team. We're still in this. We can flip this entire thing around.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Even if we're at 1-5, 1 in this. We can flip this entire thing around. Even if we're at one in five, one in six, we can turn this whole thing around. Those guys all in every day, working hard, everything. There's other teams that you know it. Like, you're like, all right, we are not good. This is headed the wrong way. So you're a professional. You go to work.
Starting point is 01:33:19 You do your job. You're trying to play your best. Some guys are playing for individual stats. Some guys are playing for individual awards. Some guys are playing for new contracts and things like that. There's situations where head coaches still have the locker room and the guys love them and they want to play for them and believe in them and go out there and win. And then there's other ones where it's lost. The locker room's lost. Players don't believe in it. They don't want to be there. And it's a very, very big struggle. I think if you look at the teams right now that are probably looking
Starting point is 01:33:46 towards some Caribbean vacation dates, I think the Panthers are up there. You mentioned the Patriots. At the current moment, they're up there. You've got the Browns who I'm excited to see what Jameis is going to do there. Starting, that's a big announcement. Jameis Winston starting for the Cleveland Browns this weekend. Goes from
Starting point is 01:34:01 third string to starter in one week while also going from babyface to complete heel again. But trying to be a good teammate to Deshaun, which we all should respect being a good teammate to a teammate. Now, with that being said, just deciding to throw yourself under a bus, too, in the same exact situation. I think there's a pros-cons situation that could go.
Starting point is 01:34:30 And over there in Cleveland, I don't know how anybody feels about anything over there. Nope. I don't know how they feel. But if Jameis is able to rattle off some wins, obviously that would be great for Cleveland. But you're right. They're thinking about vacations already. We're going into Week 8. We're only going into week eight, James.
Starting point is 01:34:46 I mean, you got a team like the Titans who just trades away DeAndre Hopkins. When you're trading away some of your better players and you're one in five, you're planning January vacations. When you're, you got the Raiders. I mean, you trade away Devontae Adams. You're on your
Starting point is 01:35:01 third or fourth quarterback of the year. You are looking at vacations. Saints, I mean, that was just a debacle the other night. So they are also checking out vacations. Wow. Start off so hot. Yeah, and you said teams know if they're not good, even if their record says they're not mathematically eliminated.
Starting point is 01:35:19 What happens if your team says we're soft? What if that happens? That is a tough, tough, tough one, man. It was, wasn't it? And then they have Belichick come out and be like, no, they're not. I literally was there last year. I know these guys. I mean, but I
Starting point is 01:35:35 thought Belichick hand-picked Gerard Mayo as his guy. And then to see him come over the top and say it's crap. I don't know if Belichick was hand-picking anything on the way out. But he was Coach Belichick. They called him Gerard Belichick because of how close his relationship was with Coach Belichick
Starting point is 01:35:51 whenever he was playing there. And it was in his contract. That's why he was able to be hired three days after Belichick was let go because... So it was already approved that he was going to be the guy. The guy who made the contracts was Bill Belichick. It's tough to walk into the team meeting on Monday after you do that postgame.
Starting point is 01:36:09 You better know 100% sure the type of team you have and the way they respond to things, and you better know that that statement you made is going to get them to work harder as opposed to shut down. I don't know if I've been in many locker rooms where that, in the NFL, in today's NFL, where that is going to make guys work harder as opposed to shut down. I don't know if I've been in many locker rooms where that in the NFL and today's NFL, where that is going to make guys work harder. I think that is one where they turn on you. I don't think Mayo knows.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think he says that without thinking his team's going to respond to him publicly calling them soft, like challenging them. And I tried to bring that up to coach Belichick at the time, but he had like such a actual personal relationship with everybody where he was like, this guy's a number two in the Russian defense. I don't think they're soft. And it was like, damn, this is a pretty powerful statement here
Starting point is 01:36:54 coming from Bill Belichick at this moment about the Patriots too. So who am I to be like, yeah, but Coach, you know, Gerard potentially. So I didn't want to do that, step on that. But Gerard would have to know that his guys were going to respond positively. You would think from that whole thing. Drake May coming out and saying, like, hey, everything he's saying publicly he has already said to us. So that might be Coach Mayo's, like, mentality and how it goes.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Now, being called soft, though, I mean, you saw JJ's response, whenever he was first starting to think about it. Age's response to that. Darius' response to it. AQ's response to it. Mine, punters are soft naturally, but just getting a chance to look in a locker room and know what that is, that is a very strong thing to say about a football player.
Starting point is 01:37:30 If you are one of those guys that's going out there and laying it on the line every play, you're flying around, your body's hurt, maybe you got hurt, maybe you literally have an injury because you were laying your body on the line. You're sitting there and you hear that and you're just like, fuck, man. Like, no, I'm fucking laying everything I got on the line for this team. I'm putting my body on the line and I'm now labeled as soft. This entire team is soft. Like, if you got a couple guys, you got one or two guys here or there that you want to have a conversation with
Starting point is 01:37:56 and you want to say that about. But, like, for me to be going out there and literally putting my body on the line and sprinting around the field and slamming my head into people and then after the game to hear that, that would be very difficult. You can categorize their overall team that way, but there are definitely guys in there who have laid it
Starting point is 01:38:14 all in line and are feeling some type of way hearing that. I think so, too, and maybe that's what he wanted. Maybe he wanted to publicly do it a little bit. Maybe he wanted to stir it up. We'll see how they react to it. Seemingly got a quarterback up there. Yeah, maybe he wanted to stir it up. We'll see how they react to it. Seemingly got a quarterback up there. Yeah, definitely. I feel great about Craig Mayne.
Starting point is 01:38:28 What Bill said, too, like a lot of the guys he listed, they did pay. The new regime paid Duggar, paid Bentley in extension. Like, they did shell out money to those guys. But, like, as a fan just watching, like, is it that absurd of a statement when Coach Mayle calls the team soft, when they run it 18 straight times? Like, they legitimately run it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Like, when that happens. Like, what Gerrard's saying is probably what you all think, right? Like, fans are thinking about the team. It's not like I'm watching, like, God, these guys are soft. But when it's just happening over and over again, it's like, holy shit, how? It's just in the law of averages. Yeah, but players might think of themselves, look at the coach trying to get over with the fans, right?
Starting point is 01:39:07 Oh, okay, sure. You know what I mean? Sure, sure, sure. Like, it's potentially, like, saying it publicly. But to be clear. Yes, in the locker room, in the team meeting room, like, absolutely. Say it.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Rip them to shreds. It's the public part of it that I, like, unless it's been brought up multiple times before, which maybe it has, and then he was just like, I'm sick of it. Finally multiple times before, which maybe it has. And then he was just like, I'm sick of it. Finally, I'm going to say it publicly. Screw it. But, man, that's still a tough one to say publicly.
Starting point is 01:39:32 If it works, if it works, we'll see. It's tough fresh out of a game. Obviously, you say some shit. He tried to clean it up after. But as a coach, as a head coach, especially, especially a defensive guy, got to play linebacker, play league for a long time. When you're saying that about your team, I feel like you're talking about yourself
Starting point is 01:39:47 as well. You're talking about yourself as a coach, as a head coach, as a staff going into it. So hopefully you get that response from your team. Then your quarterback comes out now. Quarterback being called soft, who cares about that? But anyway, on to my question. How do you feel? Do you think they're going to respond or no? I think they're going to respond. You think coach knows the team?
Starting point is 01:40:03 I think coach knows the team. Obviously, a lot of us up here are veterans, played a long time. These are some young guys in that locker room. I think they'll figure it out. What the fuck is wrong with this guy? That's what they're doing. When he walks in on Monday, you see the helmet or you see the hood's over. You might see this and then like this.
Starting point is 01:40:21 That's what he's looking out to in the locker room. That's what he's looking out to in the locker room. That's what he's looking out to, 100%. That's for sure. He knows immediately where the team stands. What if that isn't how they are? What if they're in there like – We'll see. We've all been in that locker room.
Starting point is 01:40:36 To D-Butt's point, I think to D-Butt's point, though, young guys do respond to it a little differently than vets. Vets who have been around the league and who got pelts on the wall, they respond differently. Young guys, they do have a chance to respond to it. So I'm not saying it's impossible for this to work out. But I 100% agree with
Starting point is 01:40:52 AQ. There will be a few vets in there with the hat and hood up for sure. Just based off what the Patriots have done with their record right now, if that is the attitude of some guys, they will probably have some trades coming up here in the next two weeks because they are not afraid to ship guys out. It's Celtic season
Starting point is 01:41:08 up there for you guys? It's Bruins season. It's Celtic season. It's still Drake May season, baby. I'm still all aboard the Mayflower. I will not waver. I still believe in Mayo. It's just he's going to take some time here. He's going to take a couple years here. Let's get Travis Hunter in the building. Let's get that going.
Starting point is 01:41:24 It was probably a lot of side eyes in Detroit, too, with a lot of shit that Dan Campbell was doing early. We all remember all the up-downs and all that bullshit that we saw as veterans from the outside looking in. But now a team that's definitely not soft in anybody's opinion, Detroit Lions rolling on both sides of the ball. Unbelievable balance on offense with Jared Goff. From your perspective, he's a great pass rusher,
Starting point is 01:41:45 how tough is it playing against an offense like that with that type of balance, especially with a quarterback being as hot as Jared Goff is? And then is there a chance, you think, for Aiden Hutchinson to come back if they were to make a Super Bowl run? Yeah, an offense like the Lions is so tough to play against because, like you said, the balance, the run pass, the play action, you have to respect each aspect of it and you can't just line up and tee off the way that you want to or the
Starting point is 01:42:10 most predictable way that you can against some other teams um and jared golf right now has the highest completion percentage in a four-game stretch in nfl history i mean that's that's a pretty incredible stat he's completing 83 and a5% of his passes these last four games, which is unbelievable. They have 18 touchdowns and 16 incompletions in the last four games. That's like mind-boggling. More touchdowns than incompletions in the last four weeks. That is an insane statistic. So they're clicking on all cylinders. Another example of what we were talking about earlier with AP Tone, I think you have Ben Johnson, you have Aaron Glenn, guys who could potentially be up for assistant coach of the year awards, but Ben Johnson's been kind of doing this for a little while now. Does he get the credit he deserves because he's just rolling with golf?
Starting point is 01:42:56 Nice to see golf in your MVP graphics. It's pretty unbelievable how that trade all worked out and how everybody thought he was being shipped away to nothing, and he's just thriving at the top of his game um and hutch coming back if it was a clean break and fixed up quickly as they did um i know his athletic trainer jeff uh brett fisher up there phenomenal um a clean broken bone is one of those things that can heal pretty solidly and strongly and fairly quickly and then it's just a matter of the rehab and everything to come back, get back into playing shape and everything.
Starting point is 01:43:28 But if anybody can do it, it's Hutch, and it's a guy like Brett Fisher who can help get him back. So it would be pretty awesome to see him running out again at some point this season. It's not going to be Max Crosby. Nope, no. Max Crosby's not going anywhere. He's a Raider for life.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Hell yeah. I respect and appreciate that because he is perfect for the Raiders. I think... You know, MCDC said what? Holmes is grinding away right now, right? Oh, yeah. He's watching the film. He's grinding away trying to find a replacement for Hutch.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Yeah, JJ has your phone ring and all. Okay, yeah. Has there been a little 80% Jage, 20% Detroit? I feel bad for Max, man. I love Max. I want to see him win he works so hard he plays so hard i love i love to see max win some games it's they're just going through it right now down there man they're in some tough sledding what about up there in uh in vegas i think it's kind of down and over yeah for us at least yeah out there a little bit more north than you think though it is right then you expect, especially with how hot it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:27 When you're flying to these places, you realize, boy, I was lied to with where that state was. You know? Like, you really – go check the latitudes of these states. You get really flustered by it all. Very, very flustered by it all. Whenever you think about going back and returning to play football, Detroit's the place you think about,
Starting point is 01:44:48 especially whenever you see what they just did without Aiden Hutchinson. Oh, yeah. And then what their team is capable of doing. And is it ring season up there in Detroit? And also, JJ, I know you love scoring touchdowns. Don't think Ben Johnson won't put you in that tight end to score a couple touchdowns in the Super Bowl. You and Eminem.
Starting point is 01:45:12 I saw it. It's great up there, but I mean, no. I'm enjoying it. It's great. I did see Renegade. When I watched Renegade the other night, I loved Renegade. I'm enjoying it. It's great.
Starting point is 01:45:22 I did see Renegade. When I watched Renegade the other night, I loved Renegade. It was 2024. JJ was retired no more. He was sacking QBs in Detroit. Woo! That'd be you. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Yeah. Yesterday, I had my workout all set up and planned and everything, and then I was just on the couch and I was like I don't feel like working out today. I didn't you know, I'm gonna go from 1.5 percent body fat 2 percent today cheese Sammy Deal with it body. I'm retired speaking of retired life. Happy birthday. Oh Thank you very much. Very exciting day two years old i assume um i assume it is a great time my daughter 17 months 18 months so cool so much fun i assume you're enjoying the exact times you're with koa all the time it is the greatest it is truly the greatest thing ever man he's in such a fun phase.
Starting point is 01:46:25 He's running around. He's playing sports. He's just talking up a storm. There's nothing better. Like, everybody always tries to tell you what it's like. Everybody always tries to say how awesome it is. But nothing can ever prepare you for how incredible fatherhood is. And I'm very, very thankful and grateful.
Starting point is 01:46:42 I don't like, you know, arranged marriages come from uh you know weird times absolutely sure i think so still happens i'll tell you what if that burnley team gets up in the premier league and then somehow in the champions league and uh i'm able to figure some things out you know for eric cohen mckenzie would be great together We got McKenzie Sports affiliation yet Or is she enjoying any certain sport All of them Got a golf club at Ben Roethlisberger's recommendation Said I need to get your kid a golf club
Starting point is 01:47:14 She takes that thing, bats the ball Both ways, hits the ball So I'm like okay we got hockey and potential golf there Get a ball in her hand She'll put it into a hoop, a bucket She'll be able to do that. And then I don't love the way she throws balls. She throws them over her head.
Starting point is 01:47:30 So we can't get a forward throw yet. But we got an over-the-head toss happening. Pretty good clip. Was playing catch with her last night. You know, like catching it behind her, tossing it to her, throwing it over her head, having a good time. So, yeah, maybe that is softball. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:46 We will be putting every profitable sports gimmick into Mackenzie's hands. Tennis. Bowling. A great cat more. I'll tell you what, I don't know if she's going to get into bowling. She will be good at bowling, though, because she's going to be athletic, which is what I'm saying. Just if Kova could hold up his end of the bargain,
Starting point is 01:48:03 I got a sweet lady, you know, for Koa. A funny thing that happens when you have a child, somebody told me this and I did not believe them at all. So we have two dogs. We had them obviously well before we had Koa. And the person told me when we were having Koa, they were like, oh, wait till you see your dogs. Like attention goes out the window. You don't even, your dogs, you feed them, you let them out to go to the bathroom. And I was like, no, no, I love our dogs. We will never, they will never be like that. Today is also one of our dogs' Texas birthday. I completely forgot until about 30 minutes ago.
Starting point is 01:48:37 You better get him a treat. He knows. I know. Tex knows. I got to go get him. No, you're right. I got to go get him something, man. But you just completely disregard.
Starting point is 01:48:44 That is a real thing. You know, Valerie our one dog, she's cool with it. Chuck, this Corgi, obviously, he's trying to nose around everything. Yeah, of course. You don't say. Yeah, he is. But he's been nice. They protect. They protect McKenzie, which is cool. It's been fun. Happy birthday to Koa.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Also, congrats to Wisconsin. Got a big weekend happening. And AQ has a question for you, brother. Yeah, Jage, don't know if you know this or not, but the number three team in the country is coming into Madison. Night game, going to be a great atmosphere.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Question for you is, do they still play jump around if they're down 49-7? Oh! Suck it. Got him. Hey, Q, what was your record in your time at Penn State? What was it like?
Starting point is 01:49:34 What did you accomplish? Two Big Ten titles, 40-9, I think, overall. Remington. Remington Trophy, unanimous All-American. Beat Wisconsin four times, I think. Pretty sure I beat them by 40 my senior year at Wisconsin. Did they do jump or run? I think they did, but there was about 10 people left in the stand.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Oh, Wisconsin got good fans. They got good fans. That question backfired. That question backfired. You thought you had them? You thought you had them? I didn't know. I literally had no idea because it was well, well, well before I was at Wisconsin, obviously.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Yeah, getting old. A lot of gray. And so I just wasn't prepared. Pretty successful. Good job. Good job to you. But, yes, I'm looking forward to it, man. I respect and I love for you especially that College Game Day is going to Indiana.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I think that's a great place to go. I've never been there before. This is probably their shot to get there, take advantage. But I mean, you got the number three team in the country coming to Camp Randall at night. Like, come on. Come on now.
Starting point is 01:50:36 What's that? You want us at Camp Randall? Stripe out? You want to stripe out? That's a great place to play, especially at night. All those teams, all Big Ten teams seemingly have good fans,
Starting point is 01:50:46 except for what, Northwestern? Yeah. Illinois? They got green. Illinois is kind of back. Illinois is rolling, man. Football-wise, they are, but are the fans? Yeah, they're pretty good.
Starting point is 01:50:57 They do this little bouncing jump thing in the stands. It looks pretty cool. Okay, so Big Ten teams just need a reason to show up to fans. It gets a little chilly in most places. If you're able to go, they'll show up. That's why Indiana's got it this weekend. Undefeated, brother. Come on. Let's have it. I love it. I'm very
Starting point is 01:51:16 excited to see how it goes. I love what they've got going on there. Camp Brando is Camp Brando. Madison is Madison. We'll be back tomorrow Less of this That was maybe the best send off we've ever had Maybe the best send off we've ever had
Starting point is 01:51:32 I'm happy we're going to Bloomington Camp Brando would be cool though How far is that from you guys? It's like an hour Hour and ten minutes Three hours Four or five Do they have a song for you to sing? Or a chant for you to say? Do they even have one of those? Two hours. Three hours. Four hours. Four or five. Don't want to give away where we live. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Do they have a song for you to sing or a chant for you to say? Do they even have one of those? We want six. We want six. We want six. And they got them. Signetti. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I'll go through Signetti's potting green hopefully a little bit. Stop by a hot tub pool. Have a time with six. Pool basketball court. And I'll learn it all. But yeah, I mean, obviously I know a lot of indiana references that are made in indiana things that happen for living here for like the last 15 years but i'll dive into weeds only on friday night because there's some things that happen too that like on campus they know and not everybody else so we'll see
Starting point is 01:52:19 bloomington on friday i have a dinner walk sense the feel. What are the vibes like? Sometimes you go to, it's like oh, this game is everything right now. You can feel everywhere you go it's everything. And in some places you walk around and it's like, game's happening here. It's not like everything here. Now, Bloomington has
Starting point is 01:52:39 to be, this has to be the biggest deal in a long time. Yeah. There. How about Cignetti? So for Bloomington, for IU football fans, now granted they're all to be this has to be the biggest deal in a long time yeah there how about signetti so for bloomington for iu football fans now granted they're all basketball fans as well but for iu football fans signetti comes in here talking to shit i think there were some of them that were like all right buddy come on you know yeah and then all of a sudden he gets good it's like all right buddy it's our fucking profit we got a dog here. We got a dog here. And then Cignetti is like referring to his team as we got a bunch of dogs in here.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Like that's what he wants. It's like the team and the style in which he coaches and they play, basketball-wise, is exactly what they would hope for. So it's like even people that aren't football fans but are IU basketball fans can get behind what the hell he's doing. It's like a perfect storm. What's going on? There's nothing better than when a guy talks shit and then backs it up.
Starting point is 01:53:30 It is awesome. I mean, because there's so many times where it fails, but this is just awesome when you just back it up. And he's old school. Think about Bob Knight and how he used to talk to the media and how he used to operate. Vastly different than Sig. But there are some old school similarities that kind of carry between the two and it's like, that's what IU, like that is, if he keeps winning, that money will keep going in.
Starting point is 01:53:50 He's gonna. They got some money coming out of Indiana. Obviously, Cuban is a graduate there, multiple billionaire, but there's others that are putting money in there and it's like, they've always had basketball, basketball, basketball, upgrades to the uniforms, basketball, upgrades to this, da, da, da, da, da. It's like. Speaking of Indiana, we got Colts-Texans.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Saddest of the last one of the year. Already the second one. Sad it's so early. Big, big, big, big game this weekend. Potentially that's why the game went the way it did against the Dolphins because it was kind of a trap game because we're looking ahead to the Texans.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Sure. But Colts are able to take care of business. AR is undefeated in Houston. Yeah. Why do you have to look ahead to the Texans? That means they're in front of you, doesn't it? Yeah, that does. Yeah, on the calendar, actually.
Starting point is 01:54:38 For now. On the calendar, it fucking was ahead. Yeah. No, on the standings also. For now. Well, it's been a long decade with you guys potentially above us on the stage one game up that's right we win this one hold it up to throw for more than 86 yards brother yeah what's going on is everything okay down there
Starting point is 01:54:54 is uh slowick losing it all right it's fine it's all fine deforest might be back we got to tighten up the end of game situation that's all we just gotta tighten up the end of game situation. That's all. We've just got to tighten up the end of the game. Oh, DeForest Buckner's big 99. Oh, my God. Oh. This is, you guys are going to play in an actual loud stadium. I'm really looking forward to it for your players. It'll be a lot of fun. I don't know if you heard, there was two ejections this past weekend.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Neither for fighting. What were they for? Just for being loud. Being loud. Too loud. That sounds about right for your stadium. We don't like loud. Being loud. Too loud. That sounds about right for your stadium. We don't like that. Too loud.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Too loud. Put the fireplaces back on. No, that's not what happened. That's not what happened. I think they might have turned Jim's mic off. That could be the case. You can't do that. Did you know he had an open mic at that stadium?
Starting point is 01:55:39 Who? Who did? Jim Irsay. Oh, boy. I didn't see this, and I want to. Oh, yeah, you meant. Yeah, I want to see it. I'd love to see what was said.
Starting point is 01:55:51 He was running ad libs for Dallas Clark's speech at halftime, giving a couple little, and then, and then. Great player. Yeah, absolutely team player. They knew that for the whole game. And the atmosphere in the Loud House has been different this year. I think the reason is because they feel like this team could go. A.R. and C.J. Stroud didn't play great, obviously, this past week against Packers.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Is there a blueprint now that Gus Bradley is potentially going to follow? Nope. Gus? Yeah, I was going to say. Packers defense, Colts defense are two different horses there. Joe Mixon had like 150 rushing yards and two touchdowns. I say Packers defense, Colts defense are two different horses there. So let's go. Joe Mixon had like 150 rushing yards and two touchdowns. We're going to stop that, obviously.
Starting point is 01:56:30 That's okay. We can do it a different way. That's okay with your Lord and Savior's throwing for 86 yards, pal. Okay, they were horse shit on third down. Packers won. You can let a running back eat a little bit if the quarterback can't throw the football. You get two picks early, too. One dimensional. You get two picks early. One-dimensional.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Get two picks early and what happens? Doesn't matter. JJ, don't turn your back on Wisconsin. Yeah, I was going to say, I thought you were from the great state of Wisconsin, JJ. I am. I am from the great state of Wisconsin. So you don't respect what's going on with the Packers
Starting point is 01:56:58 and what their defense has been able to do, especially after the last few years of what that team's been going through, defensive side of the ball, the fan base, and what they've had to experience? I absolutely respect it. But if you're asking me to pick one over the other, it's the team I played 10 years for.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Okay, so there's... No loyalty. I can't take anything you say in serious. That's crazy. I tried to play up there in Green Bay. No, we wanted you. We want you. When?
Starting point is 01:57:21 Come back and play now then. They got still available. Try harder. I tried. That would have been Come back and play now then. They got still available. Try harder. I tried. That would have been sweet. Curly Lambert. Lambert was the coolest. Lambert was the best field and it's so cool.
Starting point is 01:57:33 I agree it's cool, but that tells me you play Houston for so long. It's not the Loud House because anybody that plays at Lucas Oil says this is the coolest place to play. Speaking of that, there's a lot of Dallas Cowboys fans that have come, or Dallas Cowboys players, that have moved on from the Dallas Cowboys and are playing at a different place.
Starting point is 01:57:50 And they spoke to Kalen Kaler, who writes for ESPN now about it. And we have chatted about this on this particular program. Whenever we learned of this happening, we were all kind of gobsmacked, if you will. Truly. So Jerry Jones sells tours in the facility. Only team in the NFL that allows tours of the facility while the team is working. So everybody obviously has stadium tours.
Starting point is 01:58:15 And you talk about the Green Bay and Lambeau. I love that place. Whenever I say Loud House, it's better than Lambeau, obviously. That is a part of history. But they have tours. They have a museum and everything like that. But nobody's just walking around the facility for instance a part of that story said jack prescott was just uh walking in the locker room three feet away and there was an entire tour
Starting point is 01:58:33 about to begin five feet from dak prescott on just uh on a wednesday just coming in trying to do that no other team has to deal with uh sealing the floor double double-sided glass outside the weight room tours walking by while players are getting a lift on on a thursday uh for a game and one of the guys actually said uh yeah it's nice not to have somebody uh uh ben uh the nooch the nooch came out and said you know every once in a while there'll be somebody walking around uh by while you're getting a lift on and they would knock on the glass and basically say, do a trick. And he was like, okay, so you're like a zoo animal,
Starting point is 01:59:11 you know, as a Dallas cowboy. During the season, meeting rooms, people walking by, weight room, people walking by, outside of everything, cafeteria, walking by, there's a perch that they can buy tickets to, to watch practice, VIP, like kind of a lounge to watch practice. It's like, I was very flabbergasted by that when I heard about it.
Starting point is 01:59:30 I'm like, no wonder they don't win. How do you feel about it, Jage? And how would you feel if while you're in there doing your thing, Ted from corporate has his group of friends in from Applebee's. And they want to see you do a kickflip with this thing. How would you feel about all of it, Jage? I don't have to do a hypothetical for you. I can tell you because during Hurricane Harvey, we were diverted and we landed in Dallas and we had to practice there for an entire week.
Starting point is 02:00:01 So we practiced at the Star for a whole week. And first thing I will say about it, the facilities are incredible. I mean, they are literally top notch. I mean, everything is, the food, the cafeterias, the building is all unbelievable. Very, very nice. But everything that I'm hearing there, absolutely true. Like there are, it feels like you're in a full blown mall complex. Like there's a full, looks like a hotel on the side with conference rooms and hotel rooms and everything. To me, just logistically, every NFL team is trying to guard their practice field so nobody can see it. They're putting up big walls and everything around it. I've never seen somebody construct a glass structure right next to it basically saying,
Starting point is 02:00:42 hey, come watch our practices every day. It blows my mind. In the cafeteria, we were eating food. Maybe it was just because we were guests and it wasn't actually ours. But we were eating food around dozens and dozens of other people. No idea who they are, obviously. In the cafeteria? That was interesting.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Yeah. That one I don't want to like. It could have been maybe we were in a different cafeteria. No, eating lunch with the Cowboys. Oh, yeah. That's a good ticket price. Two grand for that. Get to see them work out and eat with them.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Protein. I've never had a helicopter land on our practice field in my life. That is a wild, wild, wild thing actually during practice when i saw that video that that's new that's that's uh that's different edge how do you think big mike handles all this he knew this going in you think he had i think anybody going in knows sorry i don't think he knew no sorry but i i think about that too when i hear this i think how big mike because green bay is the exact opposite of that to where where I didn't take my family in the locker room until my ninth season there.
Starting point is 02:01:47 My ninth year is when I finally took them and toured the thing just because it was like a sanctuary. This is our spot. We don't bring outsiders in here. That's what every ex-player in the article that wants somewhere else is like. It's nice that it's just ball here. I'm allowed to just work. I think some people have to be Dallas Cowboys
Starting point is 02:02:04 to be Dallas Cowboys. You have to have a certain mindset to understand that it is a show and it is a business and it is a spectacle. And they operate different than everybody else. And they're the most valuable franchise in the world. So congratulations to Jerry for thinking of something that could potentially cost you success, but certainly is a cashmaker. It actually makes $10 million a year, they're saying, these tours of the practice facility. And 50% of that has to be shared due to
Starting point is 02:02:30 revenue sharing, CBA agreement with the players because it is stadium facility tour. Now they're the only one that does practice facility tours. So 50% of that will go into the revenue sharing but then 50% of that goes into player salary cap stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:47 And it's $80,000 a team, basically, is what that 25% of $10 million divided by 32. So it's $80,000 a team is getting that. And then he is able to keep everything else, pretty much, that he's made there from a business perspective. So it does help the salary cap. Now, the salary cap, you know. Now the salary cap is hundreds of millions of dollars at this point. And there's an added extra 80 grand, each one of them from this. But that's kind of the angle the Cowboys get.
Starting point is 02:03:15 We're just trying to make more money for the players. You know, money for us is good for them. It's the same thing as playing at their stadium, though. Like their stadium is the exact same as that. I mean, you're playing in a beautiful structure, incredible stadium, all different things going on, but you feel like you are an exhibit at a much bigger circus. Like, there are just a hundred things going on. They have those dancers up there in the Miller Lite section. They have a concert going on at one. You're walking through the tunnel and you're going through a bar with people drinking and eating chicken wings like it's it's the game
Starting point is 02:03:45 does not feel like it is the most important part of the day there it just feels like you are one aspect of a much larger entertainment thing as opposed to other stadiums where the game is the only thing going on it's it's an interesting place to play for sure and we always talk like the sun coming in through those windows in the end zones. Like, if you're building a stadium to win football games, generally you're not going to blind your quarterback with sun coming through. So when a Jerry talks, we just have to understand that he's a showman. He's a businessman and a showman. So him telling radio show hosts, you know, I could fucking fire you.
Starting point is 02:04:20 If they start asking questions about stuff that isn't the show, that's just part of the show, baby. That's right. That's just a little bit more gimmick. When he's doing a draft from a 100-foot yacht or whatever it was, that's just gimmick, baby. It's part of the show. Welcome to the show. I think it's going to be tough to win a Super Bowl though whenever there's a lot of other teams that aren't worried about the show.
Starting point is 02:04:37 We're trying to make the steak. Worry about ball. They said you could rent the team meeting room for your fantasy draft or something. I guess it was a timeline. I've never heard that anywhere. Well, I want the Cowboys to have a team meeting while I rent the team meeting. I'm sure there's a price. I'm sure next year look for a bump.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Everything's got a price. Yeah, $10.25 million next year is what it meant. Where'd that come from? Well, I actually was part of a team meeting for the entire week. You know he saw that USC run out of the tunnel thing and was like, that's a good idea. We can charge something for that USC run out of the tunnel thing and was like, that's a good idea. We can charge something for people to run out of the tunnel with us. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:05:10 There's going to be so many Cowboy fans. That was awesome. That has to end, right? I mean, now that that kind of came out, that has to end. Oh, you think they trip on purpose? No, the Penn State fan paid to run out with the USC team. No, what happened? Full Penn State. All USC fans. There's one Penn State fan that paid the paid to run out with the USC team. No, what happened? Full Penn State gear.
Starting point is 02:05:25 All USC fans. There was one Penn State fan that paid the money to run out, and he's like leading Penn State onto the field at USC. Come on, boys. Come on. How much was it? That went to NIL, I assume? $1,500.
Starting point is 02:05:37 $1,300. $1,500. What a play. You got to sign your life away, too, I bet, because if you trip and fall and snap your leg, they don't want to be liable. Well, I was thinking worse, like a Penn State. Not that Penn State would ever do something like this.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Especially not a Nittany Lion alum or whatever. But you trip and fall, cause quite a commotion. Maybe get an ankle before the game even starts. Come on, boys. That's amazing. Come on, boys. Who's this guy with? He doesn't even have any credentials. Your former teammates at Cush? Look at all these people. It's pretty guy with? He doesn't have any credentials.
Starting point is 02:06:05 He's a former teammate. Look at all these people. It's crazy. You have no idea what those people are going to do. Somebody could literally come and just wipe out your star player's knee. You have no idea. That's a lot of money. Yeah, but if you get a chance to get some people on the field and they want to pay $1,300, we can definitely get a running
Starting point is 02:06:21 back next year with this. Yeah. We call the run out fee the running back fee. That's what we call it in New York. Kids having the time of their life. Why is that person dragging the Penn State flag? Is there no sense of pride? Unbelievable. Let's go, boys. This is realtor Jordan Mott. Come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:38 We're doing it. Is that lady with him, you think? No. He's chugging it, too. He's really He's going. Slow down, too. He's really... He's going, slow down, man, or get your money's worth. Yeah, get in front
Starting point is 02:06:48 of the team a little bit. Did James Franklin give him a game ball? FaceTimed him. I saw the video. Did he really? James FaceTimed him. What did he say?
Starting point is 02:06:55 Good work. You really set the tone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You know what we're going to do the entire first half that you run the boys onto the field? We're going to try to throw it
Starting point is 02:07:01 and run gimmick plays when USC can't stop the fucking run. That's literally what the story is. It was genius. Why are they doing that? What's the deal? I'm not sure, but they figured it out in the second half. I've never been to State College. Love the opportunity someday. Seems like
Starting point is 02:07:14 an unbelievable place to play. Let's go. Love to see it. But I've heard all these things about the airport situation. Can you just walk us through that quick? Because I don't fully understand. In terms of you talking about the small runway? Excuse me. Yeah, like they were saying they can't fly places.
Starting point is 02:07:28 Yeah, so like anything over basically half the country, we literally had to take a bus to Harrisburg and fly out. See, James brought that up to hurt you guys in recruiting. Yeah. That's what James just did. Any guys teetering on Wisconsin or Penn State, just know we've got long enough runways. I'll take down two programs in one day. I'll take down from K-Fan Penn State all in one day.
Starting point is 02:07:48 Don't worry. Just get them to fester from the inside out. Can they not? Can't even get an airport. Can't even get an airplane into their college, guys. Yeah, go ahead. Mom and dad will really love flying in there. Okay.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Jeez. Jage, Happy Valley is a great football town. Great town. With that being said Why don't they fucking just Lengthen the runway I'm so confused by this Green Bay had the same issue
Starting point is 02:08:10 Remember? Yeah going to Brazil I don't think we'll be able To get to Brazil Because the runways Aren't long enough For the big enough plane That we would need
Starting point is 02:08:15 To have enough gas To be able to carry everything To get all the way to Brazil So we're going to have to go To another airport To be able to get there It's like Aren't you guys mad?
Starting point is 02:08:22 That one's not as crazy Like why do we need planes going from green bay to brazil happy valley happy valley to uh usc that's a flight that should be able to be made concur but also if you're making hundreds of millions of dollars and you don't have an owner and you've already bought up everything can i just buy the land to extend the fucking runway so we don't even have that question? It's like Penn State. Can we not just buy the land to extend their runway?
Starting point is 02:08:48 How easy is that? I've thought about that numerous times, flying in and out of places. It's like somebody should just buy this. For instance, the place I fly out of, the runways, if the weather's bad, can't land there. Got to land at Indianapolis International, which is a hike. Complete opposite side. And then there's like a little bit of land next to the airport. I'm like, obviously, as I'm flying over and going to the other side of the city, I am thinking, this can't fucking happen again.
Starting point is 02:09:14 Why don't we just buy the land? And then how long does it take? And if we want to put a fence just so it's just our particular operation, if people want to call for me to open the gate, I'll do that for them. Why hasn't Penn State done that? Why has this been a problem for so long? You guys are able to build everything. How come that hasn't happened? It's a great question.
Starting point is 02:09:30 When you do it here in Indy, let me know, and we can figure this out. Penn State should be able to figure that out. No other program on the planet, I don't think, is talking about unclogging toilets at the beginning of the show and talking about where the private planes are landing and why they can't land on bigger runways at the end of the show. What a show. Might be the only show, too, that buys land to extend room place. With Dude Wipes money.
Starting point is 02:09:58 Yeah, with Dude Wipes money. I don't know if Dude Wipes is the proper one. Maybe Ram Truck. Might do a Ram Truck. Big Ram truck fan. Well, Ram truck, you extend that runway a little bit, actually. It can pull the plane. That's right.
Starting point is 02:10:11 The plane doesn't even have to use its own engine because that 2,500 heavy-duty Rebel Ram will be able to pull it to a speed where it'll be able to take off enough it won't even have to use its own jet. We just need a little longer runway, you see. So that would be the pitch. And I don't know if we'd be able to get it or not, but Penn State, come on, we're in the middle of a good time. We are.
Starting point is 02:10:27 12-team playoff. Let's go. Can't let Wisconsin. No. Need a win this week to get to next week. What do we got? I got two games. I got one with you, AQ.
Starting point is 02:10:35 I got one with you, Pat. Come on. You got to be able to come up with something. Okay, you can't. I don't know what. At the time, I came into that with, it sounded like I had an idea and I don't. So that was dumb.
Starting point is 02:10:46 No, but you did have the beginning of an idea, which is where all great ideas begin. That's right. Bad ideas too, though. Yeah, true. But we'll figure something out. We'll FaceTime you cold over the next two days. Yeah, that sounds great.
Starting point is 02:11:00 Come back, play for the Colts. If the Colts win. I mean, I love their D-line coach. Big, big fan of their D-line coach. Love him. And I like Stiky a lot. Talked to him this summer. What are you saying to him?
Starting point is 02:11:13 Let's fucking not talk to our coach, maybe. No, I like him. He's great. He seems like a really good guy. You like him? Love him. I love Shane Stiky. I'm a big fan.
Starting point is 02:11:22 He seems like a great dude. We worry about him. With situations. A lot of them. I love Shane Steichen. I'm a big fan. We worry about him. With situations. A lot of situations. Dan Rolofsky was on TV yesterday saying Colts are better with Joe Flacco. Said that on TV yesterday. Is he wrong? Just put out another video. Not the craziest statement ever.
Starting point is 02:11:38 No, I agree, but like the statement in itself now creates Shane Steichen to be in another. Shane Steichen started his entire tenure here with Jonathan Taylor wearing a hoodie at every single practice saying, I'm not playing. Best player. We got a rookie quarterback and our best player, new coach, saying, nah, we're going to have to handle this before I do anything.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Shane Steichen navigated it. Jonathan Taylor back playing great football. That's good. This situation now with Joe Flacco playing great football, Anthony Richardson being the future. But does the future matter if you're asking him to get fired? The team doesn't win. Like, that's a whole – Shane Steichen has navigated it beautifully.
Starting point is 02:12:12 I'm a big fan of Shane Steichen, the way he's handled it personally. I agree. I agree. I don't think it's an easy situation at all. I mean, there's literally a reason teams don't bring in Joe Flacco because they know he's going to play good and create issues. But why don't you bring – I don't – Not us Flacco because they know he's going to play good and create issues. But why don't you bring...
Starting point is 02:12:25 Not us. AR's winning. We want AR to continue to win. It's a tough thing. You didn't do a game. Let's say Sunday you get down by 14 and it's halftime
Starting point is 02:12:40 and it hasn't gone well. Are some guys in the locker room going like, hey, make the call, man. Make the call. Switch it. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen. I'm just saying that's a realistic conversation. That's exactly what we were out of it on Sunday. No. They were. This is the suite next to us.
Starting point is 02:12:55 They were saying, get Joe ready. There was a couple Flacco chants brewing around, but that's because Colts fans are good fans. I want to show their appreciation to Joe Flacco for what he had done. Let's all remember at the end, whenever the Colts won, Andy Richland was quarterbacked. He got the win.
Starting point is 02:13:12 You also got to look at the dangers of that because you look at the Steelers at halftime, it was like, oh man, we got to go back to Fields. Now all of a sudden, it's like, holy shit, we're going to win the Super Bowl. Russ is the greatest. That's the toughest part when you have two quarterbacks is that it's like quarter by quarter, drive by drive,
Starting point is 02:13:30 where everybody makes the decision on who should be playing. And Shane Steichen is staying the course. That's right. And when the games get later in the season, we'll see how everybody's playing, see where the Colts are sitting, and then hopefully it'll be reevaluated. But for the good of the future of the Colts franchise, we need to get Anthony Richardson some more snaps. Amen. That's the future
Starting point is 02:13:48 for sure. Agreed. Now? I mean, 0-2 against the Texans and, what, three, four games back after Sunday? Alright. We win. Where are we, bub? Boom. That didn't even cross my mind. It's a possibility. Oh, you're talking about being down 14 at halftime?
Starting point is 02:14:04 That didn't even cross my mind. It's a possibility, pal. Okay. talking about being down 14 at halftime? That didn't even cross my mind. It's a possibility, pal. Okay. Defo's back. You're out of your mind, ladies and gentlemen. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. All right, J.J.
Starting point is 02:14:14 All right, H. All right, A.Q. Yep. D. Butch talks the table. Hammer. Time. Time. Time digs.
Starting point is 02:14:22 On the other side, we're going to get smarter. We're going to learn about the trenches. We got talking points coming out of week seven from A.Q. Time, Diggs. On the other side, we're going to get smarter. We're going to learn about the trenches. We got talking points coming out of week seven from AQ Shipley. We got top five performing offensive lines from week seven from AQ Shipley. We got a lot of great shit happening on the other side, and I'm sure there's going to be some more breaking news. That's what football and sports are doing to us. That's right.
Starting point is 02:14:37 More messages from a lot of basketball people saying, hey, I'll come on, brother. Love that. Good. Good. Big name people. Big name people. Big name people. What do they rhyme with? White chocolate. I've not gotten a text from white chocolate.
Starting point is 02:14:53 I'd be so happy, though. Yeah. You should have seen them. Oh, yeah. NBA Twitter. NBA Twitter is electric. Electric. Best in the league. That's the platform.
Starting point is 02:15:10 NBA needs to I'm sure they already have it figured out. Everybody has everything figured out. NBA on X. Most entertaining place for any sport. And when things happen NBA Twitter. That is not the name of it.
Starting point is 02:15:30 But for now on, that's what everybody's saying. And I don't need to be the one. Even though I've been on Twitter a long time, anytime I got dropped into NBA Twitter, it was always a great ride. It was a great ride. Good times. That is the best part of Twitter. In NBA Twitter, during NBA, is fantastic.
Starting point is 02:15:51 That's where there should be a little bit more emphasis on, like, you know, linear ratings, they are what they are. But on X, they run it. Crush. And it is, it's awesome to watch. I learned so much on there. We'll drop a video with Shams. He'll say something. And then obviously I'll learn about something else that happened.
Starting point is 02:16:08 And then I'll learn of a new way to phrase a joke. Sure. And a new way to say something about somebody that I had never, has always been there seemingly. Yep. But boy, it just comes out. And then you just take that ride from one tweet to the next in there. And it is a nonstop, wow.
Starting point is 02:16:23 The brain power over here is so good. And that's NBA football, baby. Yes, it is. And I hope they know that. They do. A lot of names. I just want to start rattling them off, but I don't want to do that. No.
Starting point is 02:16:38 Keep them secret. Mitch Maul rhymes with. Okay. Anytime. It's like, don't you gotta run the league? Rich Paul. Mitch Maul Rhymes with Okay Was like hey yeah Anytime It's like don't you Gotta run the league Rich Paul Paul Wall
Starting point is 02:16:51 No Mitch Maul Mitch Maul Rich Paul He kinda like runs The league doesn't he Yeah Anytime you need somebody Come on
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Starting point is 02:17:37 That's 8 o'clock. AJ, I know you're feeling extra spooky after that estate Halloween havoc. Hell of a party you had this past weekend on those 17 acres, 30,000 square foot spooky mansion you have over there in Ohio. Yeah, I think you may be overselling it a bit, but I can't wait to watch Aq do this whole segment in this tone classic music okay that's what he does yeah it's actually 35 000 square feet his house is so big massive my wife and i got a chance to stay in a wing you know oh yeah the morgue wing okay i'm hey, I'm going to give away this. There it is. This is his house.
Starting point is 02:18:27 He lives in Ohio. Wow. Pool. Neighbor's house. I don't think that's mine. What? That's not yours? Is that a pool over there to the left?
Starting point is 02:18:35 What is that? Yeah, it's a pond. Pool, hot tub. Is that Sig's house? That is not Sig's house. That is not AJ's house. That is somebody else's house that has certainly been drawn into a couple of despicable stories throughout our society's history over there in Ohio.
Starting point is 02:18:50 That's AJ Hawk. Happy Halloween season, everybody. Happy Halloween. Yep. Talks to tables here at Boss Corner at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. Looking so cool. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 02:19:00 Appreciate you. You too. The hat matches the shirt. Appreciate you. Good accessorizing. I've seen you guys were hiding from competition yesterday once you become champions. Who's that? You guys are fighting champions.
Starting point is 02:19:12 Did you see that, Foxy? Oh, yeah. I noticed it. I was ready to go, too. Hey, J.J., you hear about this? Darius O'Connor beat me in Foxy in 33 with a phenomenal shooting performance. Phenomenal. Very good. And then now all of a sudden they can't be found. I thought there was a rematch.
Starting point is 02:19:27 I thought a rematch was happening. Thank you. It was supposed to be best of three, too. It was supposed to be best of three with a championship. What happened? Had I known everyone was going to be out here at 515, I would have came back out of the court. I was working out.
Starting point is 02:19:38 Who's out here at 515? Who's out here at 515? Your teammate. What? Yeah. Well, that's because he was told this was going to be the game. Isn't that what you were told, Foxy? Yeah, I actually thought Connor had left, so then it was like 5.30-ish, and I'm like, all right, I'm going to go out of here.
Starting point is 02:19:50 Yeah, and we almost just said we're champs because you guys didn't show up for a game. That was actually discussed. You all see the parking lot. You were on the Stairmaster. Nobody knew. No, I couldn't do the Stairmaster. It was too hard yesterday. You were on the treadmill?
Starting point is 02:20:04 I was on the treadmill, yeah. Hey, you've been getting after it, buddy, every day. Connor, I couldn't do the stairmaster. It was too hard yesterday. I was on the tread, yeah. Hey, you can get after it, buddy. Every day. Conner gets after it. I had a couple of sausage egg McMuffins this morning. That's why I have to. Well, that's why you've earned those things. You've earned those sausage egg McMuffins.
Starting point is 02:20:16 In a way, in a way. It's very simple. What's that? That's stairmaster. You just step and step and step. Yeah, but it makes you want to quit a lot. Be careful what you eat for McDonald's, by the way. People are dying.
Starting point is 02:20:28 Let's talk about the quarter pounder with cheese announcement that hit everybody's algorithm at the same exact time. One day after I said, you can never go wrong. That's the best pod for Pat Sanders. Quarter pounder with cheese. So direct. I was so exact. Didn't say McDonald's burgers.
Starting point is 02:20:45 He said, listen, the quarter pounder with cheese. Not even the double quarter pounder with cheese, but seemingly is okay here. I don't know how that works, but the quarter pounder with cheese is the best burger of all time.
Starting point is 02:20:55 It's going to show up for you every time. And I know people think McDonald's, oh, it's crap. It's not crap, actually. The reason why McDonald's is able to sustain the success that they've had for so long is because their shit tastes so good.
Starting point is 02:21:07 The quarter pounder with cheese, though, stands above the rest of them. And literally, hey, people dying because of quarter pounder with cheeses. No, not just all McDonald's. No, quarter pounder with cheese is the problem. I guess it's potentially the onions. Is that what they're saying? It's right on the street. Good news.
Starting point is 02:21:22 I order mine with extra onions. Okay. Okay? That was really good. That was really good for me. Everything I read about it got me a little bit rattled, I'm going to be honest,
Starting point is 02:21:31 because I started doing the math in my head because they were saying it was in Colorado and I think Nebraska was in there and then they had some other states
Starting point is 02:21:37 popped up on the map. I'm like, I've been in a lot of states. I've been in a lot of states. Yeah. How many states did I late night go, you know what,
Starting point is 02:21:44 I fucking need a quarter pounder with cheese right now. How many of Did I late night go You know what I fucking need A quarter pounder With cheese right now How many of them I started doing math I thought maybe I had E. coli Now they sell
Starting point is 02:21:50 Millions And millions Of quarter pounders With cheese But they put everybody On alert That loves this Particular burger
Starting point is 02:21:58 You can be fucked And that's how I feel right now Didn't you send one To Andy Reid earlier This year Oh no Holy fuck Oh no Could have ruined The fucking season Missouri And that's how I feel right now. Didn't you send one to Andy Reid earlier this year? Oh, no. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 02:22:05 Oh, no. Could have ruined the fucking season. I mean, the bacteria in his gut just chewed whatever negative thing there is. Probably just chewed it up and spit it out. He probably had a pretty icky dump, but he's fine. I don't know if E. coli works that way. It makes you poop because you're eating poop. So what is E. coli? that way. It makes you poop because you're eating poop. So what is E. coli?
Starting point is 02:22:26 It's poop. Poop particles. So you're eating E. coli's poop. Yes. You gave Andy Reid a poop burger. I did not. And he loved every bite. No, he did not. He licked his fingies afterwards. Well, he did love it, obviously, because how good it is. There's no poop on this particular...
Starting point is 02:22:42 No, that is not what he was thinking. Offense has been shit. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't be blaming National Cheeseburger, Dave. He might be thinking back, like, ever since I ate that quarter pounder actually. The timing of it's interesting, isn't it? The timing of it. Very fascinating.
Starting point is 02:22:59 I figure Tone doesn't, I mean, seeing who put the announcement out, I figure Tone already instantly didn't listen to this. If you look at that first tweet. According to who? What are you? The CDC? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:11 Tone's guy was out there. I know Tone's got some deep-seated issues with them. What? Is Foxy behind this? That's not true. Let's get a hammer. God. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:23:24 No problem with the CDC. I think they do great work. They've done great work for a long time. It was one guy. How do you feel about Eminem, Tony? One guy just bespirching my good name. Okay. What did Eminem do?
Starting point is 02:23:36 Well, there's Eminems right now. The peanut ones are coming full. Are those recalled? I don't think so. I don't eat peanut Eminems. What's that, buddy? I don't eat so. I don't eat peanut M&M's. What's that, buddy? I don't eat peanut M&M's. I go with the peanut butter M&M's or the ones that have the little pretzels in them.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Oh, the blue bag? Oh, my God. Blue bag's good. I'm a peanut M&M guy through and through. Yeah, those are good. The peanut butter ones, though, not bad either. So good. Those are hard to find.
Starting point is 02:24:01 Are those always there? Are those always available? Yes, they are not hard to find. You just got to look for them. That's the red bag? Red bag. Yeah, that's a good one. Well, we got pumpkin Reese's right now, too.
Starting point is 02:24:10 The pumpkin-shaped ones? Yeah. Anytime they get into the cute and silly-shaped Reese's, it really starts. That's when they're really in their bag, if you will. And we got candy season right now. Oh, yeah. We're in the middle of candy season right now.
Starting point is 02:24:26 Yeah, it's Halloween, brother. Jesus Christ. What type of Halloween party was over there? Yeah, when's Trick or Treat for you guys? Halloween. No, sometimes it's on a weekend. It all depends. Yeah, so if it's the 31st or Thursday.
Starting point is 02:24:39 Ours is on Halloween. Thursday night here in America. Ours should be, too. Oh, it sounds like you were thinking. Different counties have different days for trick-or-treat, actually. I understand that. I knew that because I think they slide to like a Friday or a Saturday or something,
Starting point is 02:24:53 mostly, don't they? It's fucking Fauci's America. No, trick-or-treat's always a weekday. It moved because of him. I see Tony's qualm now. No, that is not what Tony was saying. I don't think anything about that. I do agree. Okay, move to make it more convenient. I do agree. Okay, but they made it more convenient, didn't they?
Starting point is 02:25:09 That's probably what they tried to do for people. I think if the 31st is a Friday or Saturday or Sunday, they trick-or-treats never more of those days. Always weekday. Weekday, trick-or-treat, always weekday. It should be a weekday. You don't want to waste a weekend. It's always a weekday thing.
Starting point is 02:25:23 You go to school, you get all juiced, you wear your costume. That is a good point. Trick-or-treat. I fridays they always move because of football yeah especially in pittsburgh yeah i don't know about ohio but that's on you guys we would see i think football would trump um trick or treat i can't wait not anywhere not anywhere i don't think yeah some of those fat counties i can't wait for counties. I can't wait for the trick. I can't wait for the trick or treating with the daughter. That has to be awesome. Do you guys all go out?
Starting point is 02:25:49 No. Yeah. My daughter, my eighth grader, she's goes on. They don't really. Yeah. She's growing out of it almost,
Starting point is 02:25:55 but her friend, her and her friends get together. Yeah. We take them. Yeah. It's awesome. Trick or treat is fun because all the adults, they want to just feed you booze too.
Starting point is 02:26:02 So like, it's actually pretty fun. Yeah. Are you a, you are a hit the street family, not a stay at house, give out candy family. Oh, no. It's not fun staying there
Starting point is 02:26:10 and your doorbell ringing every four seconds. No. You got to post up outside, I think. Me and AQ. Yeah. Was it me and you or me and... No, we did it. It was me and you.
Starting point is 02:26:17 Yeah. Me and AQ sat at the edge of the driveway. That's right. Good news. Yeah, it's fun, isn't it? Build a little fire, get your little fire going, bring a boom box out there. Were we scaring people? No, no. We had
Starting point is 02:26:27 Mountain Dew. We had the big candy bars, right? We had king size. Everything big. Big, big, big. But then also offering up a Mountain Dew on the side for the caffeine just because we thought that was hilarious. And we were all the way at the end. Do you remember? Oh, yeah. So the people that made the trip
Starting point is 02:26:44 down, it wasn't everybody. So we were giving like seven at the end. Do you remember? Oh, yeah. So the people that made the trip down, it wasn't everybody. So we were giving like seven Mountain Dews to kids. Big boy candy bars. King size and everything. That was a good time. That was a great time. They were having a blast. The best.
Starting point is 02:26:54 The people that give out the big ones should be commended. Word spreads quick, too. Word spreads very quick when you're giving out full size. Never doing it again? Nope. At least not for a while. I did it last year. Never doing it again?
Starting point is 02:27:03 Nope, at least not for a while. I did it last year. These little sons of bitches. The fucking thing is gone within 10 minutes. It's like, guess what? Now it's gone for the rest of the night. I'm not putting any other shit in here. I'd like to find a couple of those kids
Starting point is 02:27:20 on my block who did that and beat the shit out of them. Who did they take more than one? We're not talking about that. We're talking about giving out king size. You're talking about... I'm talking about putting out king size. You can't do that. You can't do that. I don't have a bunch of
Starting point is 02:27:35 middle school, it's young kids and their parents. These fucking parents just let, hey, take a couple. No one's here. No one's looking. You should have known better. What were you doing? Yeah, what are you talking about? That was an immediate, okay, one for me, obviously.
Starting point is 02:27:50 Ty, you would have took the whole bag. Yeah, you just dumped the whole basket into your bag. Maybe. Maybe. But guess what? I'm never doing it again. You know what? I'm probably not even going to put anything out this year.
Starting point is 02:28:02 Keep the lights off, too. Don't come to my fucking house. What? I'm probably not even going to put anything out this year. Keep the lights off, too. Don't come to my fucking house. What? I was disgusted. Disgusted. And there are a bunch of fucking rappers in my yard, too. You know what I mean? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:28:16 Fucking decency to throw your garbage in my neighbor's yard. There's no way. Despicable. All right. It feels like you learned a lot about how your neighbors feel about you, I think. No. There's no way. Despicable. All right. It feels like you learned a lot about how your neighbors feel about you, I think. No. There's no respect. These goddamn kids.
Starting point is 02:28:30 These goddamn kids don't respect anybody these days. Gross. The sign clearly said, one per person. No, there was no sign. It's just like, you know. You got kids with their parents. You think their parents would have enough gall to be like, hey, you know. Oh, man. You're not even breaking the rules. No holds barred. You got kids with their parents. You think their parents would have enough gall to be like, hey, take one. That's right.
Starting point is 02:28:50 You know? It's like these kids. Yeah, you expect eighth graders to fucking just ravage that thing. Sure. A kid who's six years old, I expect his parents to be like, hey, hey, hey. You don't need to take two. There's other kids that are going to be coming. I want to let you know, six-year-old me, poor.
Starting point is 02:29:04 Oh, my God. King size, you said? Yeah. Man, we were getting dropped off in your neighborhood, and we were hitting that thing. And it was that one. And you circle back, too. You could circle back, switch masks, switch costumes, circle back and get ten of them. That's what I would do. Especially, yeah, like a, almost like a mall cafeteria
Starting point is 02:29:20 for the free samples. Yeah. Yeah, your house is getting hit a few times by those kids. Because they might be able to sleep better at night if they only take two at a time. And then we'll hit this house three more times. Then you got eight all of a sudden. Might even hit you with a few eggs on the way out of there. Yeah, and toilet paper maybe not even.
Starting point is 02:29:35 No one's doing that on my block. It's a fucking good development. But I'll tell you what. Either no candy or I'm going to put out like dots or some shit like that That's the right move Candy corn I like candy corn
Starting point is 02:29:51 My kids like it I'm not eating a lot of it It's not like I'm going for candy Cold can of Pepsi There was a house that gave cold cans of Pepsi That was the greatest house I was going to say that would be awesome Rifle it through the person's window
Starting point is 02:30:04 Fucking ice cold Coca-Cola Are you kidding me the greatest house. I was going to say that would be awesome. I would take that and rifle it through the person's window. Fucking ice cold Coca-Cola. Are you kidding me? Come on. Pepsi. Yes, I am. Absolutely. Bullshit. Not because it's a can. That's going to be in your sack.
Starting point is 02:30:20 Strictly because it's a can. Ice cold can of Coca-Cola, not fucking Pepsi. Listen to how mad he is about these kids taking his kids to that server. He's pissed about a Pepsi. I had forgotten all about it, and I am. I'm boiling right now. That pissed me off so much.
Starting point is 02:30:35 It was. Then your doorbell rings the rest of the night. I mean, Candy's gone within ten minutes, and it's like, okay, well, I'm going to have trick-or-treaters coming for the next two hours, and I don't want to hear my fucking doorbell for the next hour and 50 minutes when there's nothing out there. So you got to act like you're not home. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Turn the lights out. But you got six to eight-year-olds that don't give a shit. They'll ring your doorbell a hundred times and parent, hey, maybe someone will come. Ring it 15, 15, 16 more times. Go ahead. I understand his dog is going fucking ape shit Right there but whatever
Starting point is 02:31:07 He'll come eventually Dog's saying come in Keep knocking Happy Halloween Next Thursday Halloween episode Young baby that's going to be wanting to sleep too Now
Starting point is 02:31:23 Yeah the Halloween episodes over the years Have really delivered Yes, they have I believe this one's going to as well I can't wait Chuck Pagano will be in attendance He understands what's about to happen Going to be a corpse
Starting point is 02:31:40 Again Come on Another year of being a corpse Hey Chuck What's your problem? again. Come on. Oh, it's Halloween. He has to dress up. Yeah. Another year of being a corpse, eh, Chuck? What's your problem? Just a layup of a costume. He looked good, though. He had good hair.
Starting point is 02:31:54 Good tan. He looks good. I think he's excited for the Halloween episode as well. Just be some famous Italian. Oh, maybe. Maybe Chuck Pagano. Maybe he dresses up as Coach Chuck Pagano. That'd be sweet. Puts the hat on. The polo. some famous italian oh maybe maybe chuck pogona maybe he dresses up his coach chuck pagano that'd be sweet what's the hat on the polo the whole thing i could really rip maybe he makes a song yeah be a multi platinum recording artist yeah you could do that well i have heard
Starting point is 02:32:18 i have heard some tracks he's working on i guess yeah. Still a work in progress, I guess. Pretty good. In the lab. Chuck? Yeah. You've heard it. You've heard some of it. Oh, my bad. Yes, I have. I stand corrected. Yep, that's Chuck. Chuck knows what he's doing. He's legit. You're the best. Alright, speaking
Starting point is 02:32:39 of the best, we've got to find out who was the best offensive line from Week 7. Before we do that, we've got to find out who was the best offensive line from Week 7. Before we do that, we've got to find out what the talking points should be football-wise after Week 7 as we head into Week 8 of this 18-week NFL season. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time
Starting point is 02:32:56 for Super Bowl champion A.Q. Shipley's talking points. Here we go. Okay, A.Q. I don't have the talking points, but Evan definitely does. Yep, we got him.
Starting point is 02:33:11 Here we go. Jordan Love is a gunslinger. When you turn on the Green Bay Packers, you will see interceptions. Right, Ty? We've talked about this. Here's an interception right here. Here's what you don't want to do. You don't want to tell Jordan Love not to be Jordan Love. He is always trying to create a play, and then you take away some of his magic.
Starting point is 02:33:29 So you're going to get some of those. You are going to get some of those. But you're also going to get some of these. This, look left. Between two. Dark to Tucker Craft. Unbelievable. This next play is not going to get talked about a lot.
Starting point is 02:33:40 This is backed up third and 27. Eight minutes left in the fourth. Gotta get out of your own zone. Gotta get to get. Gotta get to get to get. Something. And look what this. Now if you watch this. If we can pause this here. Keep going. No, right there. Right there. If you see this. Look where the DB is.
Starting point is 02:33:58 He's trying to break and pick six this. And he puts this outside of him. Gets up to the what? 14? Unbelievable pass. Only where he can catch it. If he's late or a little bit behind, that is pick six, going the other way in a two-point game, and they probably lose this game. And then Whelan or Whelan, Daniel, the Irish lad, comes in and bombs him. Completely flips the field.
Starting point is 02:34:19 Yeah, exactly. Huge play, not going to get talked about. Not going to get talked about. But he is an absolute gunslinger, and you have to let him be him because he's going to give you magic over and over and over again. Will he throw it away to the other team sometimes? Absolutely. Yes, sometimes you've got to live by the sword, die by the sword, right?
Starting point is 02:34:33 That's right. That's the kind of conversation? That's it. Utmost confidence in Jordan Love being more positive than negative. Remember, this was kind of a Josh Allen convo for a while, right? Because he led the NFL in touchdowns, and he also led the NFL at one point in turnovers, and he was kind of risky with the ball. And then you ask Brandon Bean or McDermott about it,
Starting point is 02:34:51 and they're like, we trust Josh Allen. We just do Josh Allen stuff. That's how Packers fans already feel, it feels like, with Jordan Love. Yeah, because very rarely are you having like a one-touchdown, three-interception game. Like most of the times if he is throwing two picks, like he's throwing four touchdowns, too. So you kind of take the bad with the good.
Starting point is 02:35:07 How does defense feel about this, AJ? How does defense normally react knowing that your quarterback is a gunslinger in the old-fashioned sense of the word? Yeah, I mean, I played. Brett Favre was a starter for two years when I was in Green Bay. He is the gunslinger. So, yeah, sometimes that would happen. But, honestly, you are always okay with it because you'll take the good.
Starting point is 02:35:26 Like this dude, he might throw five touchdowns a night. So that, well, it's fine. Like I think usually defense, as long as it doesn't happen like week in and week out, we're good to go. How do teammates, DBs, feel in practice playing against a guy like Jordan Love? I mean, you love it. You love a guy who you gotta cover the whole field. Now as a defender
Starting point is 02:35:42 playing against those guys too, you love that too because you know you're to get two or three opportunities. Patrick Mahomes, over the years, he's going to give teams opportunities. It seems like now guys are actually catching it. But, yeah, once again, you take the goat with the bat if you're on that player's team. You throw a pick, all right, we go out here and get a stop, but get you one in to the point. Green Bay's defense, they have been turning the ball over a bunch this year.
Starting point is 02:36:04 So it's a good little formula they got cooking over there right now. You love it? Yeah, I really do. They're so fun to watch. And it's stressful at times because a couple weeks it's happened where they'll have turnovers, like the first couple possessions, and they kind of get behind the eight ball a little bit. But then last week they came out, did what they had to do in the second half like and and you know that he is going to like for as many bonehead interceptions as he throws he's going to have a couple of those touchdown passes like he
Starting point is 02:36:32 had to tucker craft and there was one to don tavian where it's like holy shit like he one of five guys in the nfl can make that pass and you guys are uh calloused yeah you have to go through it a little bit exactly you know how you respond to adversity. Jordan Love seemingly is unflappable. There's a lot of quarterbacks in this league that are doing this, whether it's running or passing. It's the same thing you get with Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels. Like, let them get out and create plays and run.
Starting point is 02:36:56 Now, you might take a sack for 15, but you're also going to get 44 down the sideline for a touchdown. Drake. Drake May. Bingo. Drake May's about to get loose. I don't think he's going to have a gunslinger mentality. You think he is or no?
Starting point is 02:37:07 I hope not, just because watching the Packers, it is up and down. Oh, my God, I couldn't imagine. But I do believe that he can make some of those absurd throws. But that ball that Dontavian wicks on the sideline in the corner, it wasn't the exact same ball, but the one to booty was very similar, where it's just in a bucket. It is perfectly placed, so hopefully Drake making it. I like guys who are confident enough to play free.
Starting point is 02:37:30 And also, the floor is a big part of that because he's telling them, yep, keep shooting the shot, brother. You're going to get it from Jameis, too, in Cleveland. He's the starter. Well, he can see now, though. That's right. It's the first time. Gunslinger.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Yeah, he'll throw it into a few. He doesn't care. It's the first time. Gunslinger. Yeah, he'll throw it into a few. He doesn't care. Well, he does care. The teammates beat James. You've been, you know? Tough. Sit that one out. Tough.
Starting point is 02:37:59 Let someone else carry that torch. Legit. It's like just a little bit of. DTR, where you at? Awareness. Just a little bit of acknowledgement too of the awareness of the situation but you know they James is now the leader of the Cleveland Bronx. That's right. Speech is gonna be great. Football's gonna be electrifying and people like the Miz are saying
Starting point is 02:38:19 nothing's better. This is a text I got from the Miz. Okay? And I forgot to read it yesterday whenever he sent it. I got this at 223 AM yesterday the Miz. Okay? And I forgot to read it yesterday whenever he sent it. I got this at 2.23 a.m. yesterday. Okay. So this comes after Adam Schefter says, it's pretty depressing being a Browns fan. And then we go on a full run.
Starting point is 02:38:35 2.23 a.m. Eastern. I get this text message from the Miz. It does not suck to be a Browns fan. Nick Chubb is back. Two-time coach of the year, still our coach. And it's early in the season, so you can kiss my ass. Sleep tight while I'm still working, is what he said. That's what the Miz said. It's awesome. Is that how Bronze fans feel, AJ?
Starting point is 02:38:52 Not the ones I'm around, I would say. Not the ones I run into. But I love the Miz's positivity. None of them are like the Miz, so we can't really compare. No one's like the Miz. No one's a showman like that guy. All the time. They need him in the stadium, so we can't really compare. You're right. No one's a showman like that guy. All the time. They need him in the stadium on Sunday.
Starting point is 02:39:08 Miz needs to play. He should. Middle linebacker. Anything. Quarterback. Fullback. Any. Tackle.
Starting point is 02:39:16 Yeah. They put him at left tackle. Yeah, I like that. Just see how it goes. We need the Miz out there. They need the Miz out there. Bad. And we need a second talking point coming out of week seven from AQ Shipley. Let's go with Ben Johnson.
Starting point is 02:39:27 I said he's elite. Here's the deal. He's the best offensive coordinator in football. What he's able to do with Jared Goff and dialing up things from week to week. This first play, what you're going to notice, this is that crazy seven-up look that you get with Flores anytime it's second or third and long, and you get seven guys up, and they can bring whoever. But here's what you don't notice.
Starting point is 02:39:42 Let's rewind that a little bit, Foxy. Guy coming across in motion. Tim Patrick. This is a wide receiver. And Montgomery all going right to block Van Ginkle, one of the best pass rushers in the league. You wall off the left. That's how you pick this up.
Starting point is 02:39:55 Sewell's taking two, putting someone on the ground. But you're blocking Van Ginkle with two. This is the same thing early in the season Kubiak did to a Micah Parsons. Just throw a bunch of guys at him and have the line just wall off and make it easy to pick up everybody. And two guys understanding that their entire role in this particular play is not to get out. You're never going to get the ball. You are locked on. They're not looking to leave at all. No, not at all. Double teaming blocking. This is a two or three man route and we are handling the seven guys up because they are not going to get to us at the quarterback position. Because if Jared Goff has time,
Starting point is 02:40:23 Jared Goff has dimes. Yep, that's right. The stats are absurd with him whenever he's thrown out of the pocket. What else has Ben Johnson done? If a back was in the backfield in this protection, you would get the seven up. Instead, you get six up because there's an empty protection, right? So you see the six, right? Two bigs on the left, two bigs on the right, with two linebackers in the middle.
Starting point is 02:40:40 Ben is talking to Jared Goff this entire time, leading up to the snap. There is nothing coverage-wise that says that they're only going to bring four in this protection. They can easily bring six. And if they bring those two linebackers, the defensive end over Sewell hits Jared Goff in the head within a second and a half. And they run all deep routes and hit Laporta with a big play before the half and obviously go up 21-10. You're saying Ben Johnson's predicting what the defense is going to be doing. I think he's doing the same thing that McVay was. He's in his ear.
Starting point is 02:41:10 They're getting to the line of scrimmage. He's talking. He's telling them, hey, listen, there's a tell. There's six up. But, hey, coverage-wise, they have to drop these guys, right? Like, you can stay with the route. You see Goff go like this, right? He's alerting to something.
Starting point is 02:41:22 There's nothing pre-snap when you look at that coverage that says that they're dropping those guys out. They can definitely bring those guys. Big brains up there in Detroit, Foxy. Yeah, I love it. And the O-line gets so much credit for the run game, so I love that AQ picks some pass plays to show what happens when Jared Goff has some time. It's perfect.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Yeah, Foxy, I'm thankful, too, that he did that. Yep, good job, AQ. Yeah, good job, AQ. Good job, AQ. The crazy thing, and I know I mentioned it was Sewell taking two. Most people think your average fan watches this and they see Taylor Decker blocking nobody. That's the protection. He's blocking out there, and you got Glasgow sitting there, and they're kind of two on
Starting point is 02:41:57 one, right? You see that? Yeah. Well, everybody's like, oh, just block it back. That's not the way this shit works, right? You're going to have a free hitter if they bring those linebackers, and then this defensive end's coming off the right. Got it. Does that make sense? Yeah, you got just block it back. That's not the way this shit works, right? Like, you're going to have a free hitter if they bring those linebackers. And then this defensive end is coming off the right. Got it.
Starting point is 02:42:08 Does that make sense? Yeah, you've got to figure it out. Florida's defense has been a problem for a lot of people. But every time they see somebody drop that you're sliding to, it's like, oh, just bump it back. You understand how hard that is in real time when things are flying. They don't. People do not. They don't understand.
Starting point is 02:42:22 They don't understand. Well, I don't think people understand how hard it is to block somebody. How fast that happens, too. What do you mean, just turn back to the left? What are you doing? It's hard enough when you've got Vito Vey to block one-on-one to block them. Also, the play clock. As soon as that last play
Starting point is 02:42:36 starts, the next play already rolls. Whatever happens, blocking, very physical. Could be exhausting. Could just got cooked. You're up against it. You got to answer the bell here. The bell's in 22 seconds. You got to.
Starting point is 02:42:48 Third and 17. Empty protection. You got to figure it out right now. It's like there's a lot into that. I'm happy we're. I am happy we're highlighting that, Evan. Yeah, thank you, AQ. Thank you, AQ.
Starting point is 02:42:59 Also, Tim Patrick was the perfect signing for the Detroit Lions. He blocks. He catches big passes on third down. He has been so good for the Lions. What's the big talking point coming out of week seven for A.Q. Shipley? Lamar Jackson is unquestionably the MVP of the league right now. It is unbelievable what he's been able to do, and you're going to see three plays from him in this series right here.
Starting point is 02:43:19 So whenever you see this right here, you've got a free hitter off the right side. As we're looking at it, it's our left, right? You saw the free hitter coming from, as we're looking at it, the left to Lamar's right. He's going to literally just take one step back and go around him. Like, this is unbelievable. That's a sack. That's a sack for 28 quarterbacks in the league. And now we're going to throw back across the field, which is a no-no,
Starting point is 02:43:40 to Bateman, who had his coming out party and obviously has a monster game. Lamar makes that whole thing happen. That's a sack every other time against 90% of the league. And then crossbody, 45-year-old. AQ. Yeah. AQ. Let's say there's a free runner coming in his face.
Starting point is 02:43:57 Is that protection designed that if we give a free runner, we want this guy in his face being the free runner, not the guy on his backside? That's correct. You always want the widest to his face being the free runner, not the guy on his backside? That's correct. You always want the widest to his eyes as the free rusher. They're always going to sift from the right side usually
Starting point is 02:44:11 and then get everybody there so he sees the free rusher in his face. Period. And then he can make the move and do whatever he wants from there. That's how that is directing traffic. Look at Justice Hill too. Sprint. And he caught it. The buy-in by everybody on this team and you're going to see it. Lamar. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:27 Lamar's down there. Yeah. And you're going to see a little bit more of that later. Check this one out. We got another one. Let's watch him just sit in the pocket. Okay, cool. That's great. Pick up up front by the boys up front. And then we're just going to throw this thing 70 yards in stride. I mean, what he's been able to do throwing the ball,
Starting point is 02:44:43 that was the big question mark with him early. What he's doing throwing the ball is obviously exceeded everybody's expectations, and now you put that with what he's able to do running the football as well. 57-yard bucket there for Lamar Jackson. Sit in the pocket, didn't look to run, which I assume he could have. That's what everybody has chatted about this entire time.
Starting point is 02:45:00 Does a bucket there. Buy-in by the Ravens at a very, very high. Grill on Lamar right now. Very clean. Very clean grill right now. Does a bucket there. Buy-in by the Ravens at a very, very high. Grill on Lamar right now. Very clean. Very clean grill right now. Shimmering. Yeah, it was. It was lighting up underneath that.
Starting point is 02:45:11 Yeah. With the way the lights were on. The whole entire night. Yeah, it was. I like seeing Lamar happy. Yeah, I want a grill now. Broward County legend. No doubt.
Starting point is 02:45:20 You want to talk about buy-in? Is he in the Hall of Fame? Is he going to be in the Hall of Fame? He should be. He will be. You've got to be retired. Do you vote on that? Are you part in the Hall of Fame? Is he going to be in the Hall of Fame? He should be. You're going to be retired. Do you vote on that? Are you part of the voting committee? That's a good question.
Starting point is 02:45:33 I congratulated the hell out of him last week. That's a big deal. Twice. Here in the studio and on his Instagram. It's a big deal. Not on X. Maybe on X, too. Lamar's unbelievable. He's definitely taking that step.
Starting point is 02:45:47 If people are still talking about, oh, make him beat you from the pocket, like I said, lazy. He can't. Very lazy at this point. Yeah, he can. And has been. Yep. You talked about buy-in?
Starting point is 02:45:55 Yep. Let's talk about buy-in from the quarterback himself. You can have buy-in everywhere else. Quarterbacks usually get the hell out of the way whenever it comes to the run game. Check this out. We get the cutback. No, let's get him. Let's get up on Antoine Winfield, one of the best safeties in football,
Starting point is 02:46:08 and lead block down the sideline for Derrick Henry. He stepped out of bounds. We get it. But that was a touchdown block by Lamar Jackson, the quarterback who's making $50 million a year. And he's also lighter than he's ever been, right? Didn't he lose weight? So he's lighter than he's ever been, still getting in there.
Starting point is 02:46:21 Could have got run up on, rolled up on. He knows that as he's choosing to make decisions. Who cares? Everybody in Baltimore is bought in right now. I love how he passed the first guy, too. That was great. He's now catching. Yep.
Starting point is 02:46:30 I'm just going to arc around him. Now, Levante David does get him. Now, this could have been catastrophic. Yeah, it would have been bad. It would have been bad, but we like to buy in. And in the backfield there, they got 510 pounds, 530 pounds worth of human in Ricard and Derrick Henry. And then Lamar Jackson out there. I mean, Ravens are fun to watch, man.
Starting point is 02:46:48 They are. Ravens are fun to watch. Probably going to see them in a little bit as well. Oh, yeah? Whoa. Well, let's go there. Let's go in the trenches, shall we, for the top-performing offensive lines from Week 7 by A.Q.
Starting point is 02:46:58 Shipley. Here we go. A.Q. Okay, A.Q., let's start with the number five performing offensive line out of Week 7. Number five team is the Washington Commanders. Nobody's talking about their offensive line. They have been phenomenal. Tyler Biotish.
Starting point is 02:47:12 Am I saying that right? Phenomenal. He has been unbelievable. He's been unbelievable in pass protection. But check this out in the running game. What Cliff's able to dial up. We get eye candy going in the backfield. We get eye candy with right guard, right tackle, pulling across.
Starting point is 02:47:24 Look what it does to 25 and 56. 25 and 56 think this ball is getting handed off to, as we're looking at it, the right, their left. And then we get Eckler coming back, arcing on number 45, lead block, and you get Daniels on the QB counter going the other way.
Starting point is 02:47:40 The eye candy gets everybody. Nobody knows where the fuck the ball's going. Nobody on defense. Where do I go? Defensive end down the line. This where the fuck the ball's going. Yeah. Nobody on defense. It's tough. Where do I go? Defensive end's down the line. This guy's here. Everybody's lost. I mean, puts them in a complete blender.
Starting point is 02:47:51 Look at 45 here. Watch him. He goes – still after. Yeah, the ball's right here, by the way. Whoops. I think he's got the edge. Yep. See you later.
Starting point is 02:47:58 And we're off. 50 yards and some bruised ribs. Bang. Spaff fielding. He's saying he wanted to relegate Carolina Panthers. That's what he's saying. To the ACC. That would have worked poorly.
Starting point is 02:48:09 What we have seen, though, I mean, we're seven weeks into the season. I'm pretty sure the Carolina defense has been on this, I think, five times. Oh, no. Oh, they're actually a top-performing offensive line maker. That's it. Carolina Panthers defense. We appreciate that. That's it. That's good, Carolina Panthers fans.
Starting point is 02:48:20 You got a title. Yeah, that's it. Highlight maker. You're making it every week. Just on the wrong side. Contract creator. Yeah. Carolina Panthers fans, you've got a title. Highlight maker. You're making it every week, just on the wrong side. Contract creator. Yeah. Carolina Panthers defense are doing, okay, let's go to the number four offensive line. Wow, this
Starting point is 02:48:32 is going to surprise a lot of people. This is, and not a lot of people are talking about it, but the Jacksonville Jaguars! I'll fucking do it! Wow. Jacksonville Jaguars are playing some good football. There's one guy. There's one guy. It's two teams. There's one guy that's not, but the rest of the group, listen, I love this play.
Starting point is 02:48:48 They ran the shit out of the ball. I think Conman might have said it earlier, what, 18 runs or something in a row, something crazy. Fuck me! But look, let's stop it right there. So, Morse, Mitch Morse, who came down from Buffalo, right, he's got an A-gap defender to his left. The nose guard is going to loop across his face.
Starting point is 02:49:01 A lot of centers fall down because they're selling out because they've got to reach this guy. Watch the patience. He slows it down. Let Scherf come over. Now we get the scoop. This turns into a transition double team on the right. Now watch what Mitch Morse, the center, does on this linebacker. It's subtle.
Starting point is 02:49:14 You've got to watch him swipe his hands down. You see that? And now he falls on the ground, and then we get a nice little hole up to the second level. It's awesome stuff. Hey, that's veteran move, right? That's veteran move. I mean, he's unbelievable. And probably in this game, seven or eight different little chop downs.
Starting point is 02:49:28 Defense alignment, linebackers, he was doing it. These are vet moves. You see them from veteran players. But it's work, smarter, not harder. AJ, you got to have the balance, bub. Man, no, good luck. You're trying to head and hands this dude, and he does that? Man, that's exactly what happens.
Starting point is 02:49:44 Sometimes you'll fall flat on your face and your arms won't even hit first. Your face goes on the ground first. That's right. Patriots fans don't love being on the receiving end, but if you're a Jacksonville Jaguars fan, congrats. It's a big deal. They look good. They've been playing good. Their offensive line's been really good. I mean, they have... I mean, Ezra Cleveland's
Starting point is 02:49:59 been great at left guard. Scherf's obviously a... Kirk's dog. That's right. He's been great forever. Walker Little filling in a little bit this week. They got guys everywhere. They are doing a phenomenal job up front. Number three performing offensive line coming out of week seven. Here we are.
Starting point is 02:50:16 We got the Baltimore Ravens. No. Oh. No. You have the Lions. Oh no. Oh no. Did you know this? I thought I had a Ravens. Oh no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Did you know this? I thought I had a Ravens. Oh, no. Oh, no. You and Brucey Boy on two different pages.
Starting point is 02:50:32 All right, we're going to go Detroit Lions. Oh, wait. I feel like we're screwed. We can interchange these. No, no, you can't. You should have been two or more. What are you doing? These fucking rankings don't mean nothing.
Starting point is 02:50:44 What are these rankings mean? Let's go to the Ravens. Get them changeable. Let's go to the Ravens. I can't be a part of this. No, let's go to the Ravens. Boo. What the fuck, man?
Starting point is 02:50:53 This guy sucks. This is spooky. Boo. This is spooky. Fix that mic. There's no integrity. I can't be a part of this. I mean, I got the Ravens.
Starting point is 02:51:01 I wrote it down. I wrote it down. The integrity of the game is being questioned. I got the graphic and thought that I had it written down wrong, but I guess I had it right all along. So this is a bone issue. Oh. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:51:14 Finger pointing down the line. I don't know. I mean, I got the text message. I'm looking at it. Oh, no. Pull it out. Let's see. Yeah, apparently.
Starting point is 02:51:24 Devon's pointing his phone at you. Apparently bone has the text as well. Yeah, I see the text. Oh, no. No Hey, you want to know what what you wanna know what the bad news news is? You're wrong. I didn't have my readers on. I wrote it down wrong. But the text message... We see it. Yeah, the text message. The boys are right. The boys are right.
Starting point is 02:51:55 I wrote it down wrong on my phone. It's right there. Yeah, we see it. But the bad news is I read it wrong. Yeah. I read it wrong. This is my fault. I screwed up. Oh, no. All right, that's it. Let the bad news is I read it wrong. I read it wrong. This is my fault. I screwed up.
Starting point is 02:52:06 Oh, no. All right, that's it. Let's go to the – You know what the good news is? Here's the – The Detroit Lions are the number three team. No. Top three is good.
Starting point is 02:52:17 All right, congrats to the Baltimore Ravens and the Detroit Lions. Number three, number two. Being right in there. I don't want a bronze medal. Okay, I want silver or gold like we deserve. They're the bronze. They are the bronze this week. I screwed that up because I wrote it down wrong.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Forget second and third anyways. Yeah. Fuck them. It's all about one offensive line. There can only be one at the top of the mountain. And this week, the Philadelphia Eagles. I wrote this one down right. I screwed that up. Yeah, yeah. No worries. Second and third, who cares? That's right. Well, the Philadelphia Eagles. I wrote this one down right. I screwed that up.
Starting point is 02:52:46 Yeah, yeah, no worries. Second and third, who cares? That's right. Well, Baltimore was two, Detroit three. We got the Philadelphia Eagles number one. And this group was awesome this week. I'm telling you, Cam Juergens. I know we've been talking about Cam Juergens a lot.
Starting point is 02:52:57 Replacing Kelsey. Everything was questioned when he got the starting job. Let's watch. This looks like Kelsey. Let's pull him around. Let's get the backside guard through on number 41, who, by the way, Bruce, number 41, I don't know who he is, but, boy, was he struggling in this game. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:53:11 Oh, you said we watched a little film, 41, not great. Yeah. Fred Johnson threw him out of the club, third play of the game. Oh, boy. Yeah, 41, tough day, tough day. We get the backside guard up on 41. We get Cam Juergens around. Now, look, I think D-Butt talked about this yesterday.
Starting point is 02:53:24 Receiver cracks, right? When you get the crack on 31, We get Cam Jurgens around. Now, look. I think D-Butt talked about this yesterday. Receiver cracks, right? When you get the crack on 31, look what it does to the corner. Brings him in to give the angle on Cam Jurgens as he comes around. And guess what happens? Boom. Great little hit out in space. Saquon down the line. Still running.
Starting point is 02:53:36 Still running. Saquon could have had 400 yards rushing this week. But he said, let the other guys eat a little bit. Bingo. That's exactly what happened. Saquon was approached by Coach Sirianni late in this dominating performance against the Giants, a team that said,
Starting point is 02:53:50 yeah, we don't want to pay them. Even though the owner said, are we sure we don't want to pay them? GM said, we don't want to pay them. Nah, Philadelphia's out. Chicago's running our price up, so it's not our fucking game. What do you want to do? Spend how much money you want to spend? Got quarterback $40 million. What do you want to do? Spend how much money you want to spend?
Starting point is 02:54:06 Got a quarterback, $40 million. What do you want to do, running back? Philadelphia Eagles are like, $40 million? We got $50 million we can pay. Whatever the fuck he's asking for. This guy's unbelievable. So unbelievable that Coach Sirianni approached him on the sideline at the end of that game and asked him this. You're 13 yards away from your career high.
Starting point is 02:54:23 I would love for you to get that, but that's up to you. It's all good. I'm going to take out all the starters if they don't score. You're going to let them eat. You sure? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:33 I promise. I'll listen to me. I want you to do it if you want to do it. I'd rather see the young boys eat. Okay. What a team, man.
Starting point is 02:54:41 What a guy. A lot of people saying a lot of things about Coach Sirianni. Sirianni looking out for his team, looking out for his player. And then at the end there, he said, hey, look at me. I want you to do it if you want to do it. Like, that was Sirianni, I think, giving him one last, like, hey,
Starting point is 02:54:54 do not feel – this is a big fucking deal. Obviously, you're playing against the Giants. And for Saquon to react that way, what a moment over there on the sideline. I'm happy they captured it. I'm happy we got to see that. And I hope the Philadelphia Eagles fans are like, you know, maybe Coach Sirianni isn't just some big, dumb dipshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:09 You know, I think that was a great clip right there for all parties. Great little behind the scenes. Obviously, a lot of those conversations happen on sidelines and teams are, you know, somebody coming, getting head coaches or the offensive coordinator, hey, this guy's one catch away, one yard away, one touchdown away, whatever it is. So, for him to be like, hey, I'd rather let the young guys eat. Great to see.
Starting point is 02:55:26 I think I saw Barry Sanders comment on it as well, talking about how records really mean more when it's in the flow of the game, team accomplishments. We saw one basketball team last night throwing up bricks for three minutes and some Mickey Mouse shit trying to break a record. So love to see this, Saquon. What you're referring to is the Boston Celtics trying to break the three-point record in a game.
Starting point is 02:55:46 They missed nine straight at the end. They missed nine straight threes to not break the record, which is, you know, I think the universe kind of chit-chatting about it. But if you get it in a game, I think you feel better about it. Yeah, and Bucs is just sounding like a kind of whiny little bitch, to be honest with you. Still trying to recover from saying the Mavs were going to win the NBA title. This guy, after every single series. We got the tweet, brother.
Starting point is 02:56:06 Don't make me pull it up. Don't make me pull it up, brother. Is that what we're doing now? Oh, yeah. You were close. You got to go. He does sound like that, doesn't he? He's the whiny little bitch, but that's fine.
Starting point is 02:56:17 That's just a heat fan for you. Yep. Fair weather as they come. Anyways, congrats to Philadelphia Eagles. Hey, one little shout out. Jeff Stoutland has been the O-line coach there through probably four different head coaches. He's the best O-line coach in football right now. The best?
Starting point is 02:56:30 The best. Stoutland University? Jeff Stoutland. Whoever he gets, he makes them a star. Congrats, coach. Number one offensive line in the NFL this week. Top five, top five, top five is, I don't know if I have the top five card. Do you have the, boom, there it is.
Starting point is 02:56:48 There it is. So we went with Ravens 2. The interchangeables. Made it back again this week. Wow. Okay. They've both been on before, so I guess it's not that big of a deal. That's right.
Starting point is 02:56:59 It feels like none of it really matters at this point. Exactly. That's the question. That's the question. Geez, I misread something. It all sucked. Well, I know number one matters. Philadelphia Eagles up against the point. Exactly. That's the question. That's the question. Geez, I misread something. It all sucks. Well, I know number one matters. Philadelphia Eagles up against Goodies.
Starting point is 02:57:09 That's right. Top five matters. Top five matters. Jacksonville being in there is a big deal. It's a victory for you. Hey, there's only about five offensive lines that play well a week. Let's be very clear when we say that. Really?
Starting point is 02:57:19 Yeah. Wow. Why do guys have bad games? What happens? Matchups. I mean, it could be anything. It could be the guy they're going against is Dexter Lawrence, who has nine sacks, leading the league as a post guard.
Starting point is 02:57:30 Could be that guy, right? It could be Vito Vea. It could be the defensive scheme you're going against. I also think offensive line play is down a little bit right now. A lot of injuries. The Saints got a ton. The guys that I liked in the beginning of the season, you're starting to see a bunch of injuries. It's piling up on every team, and now you start to see.
Starting point is 02:57:47 We always talk about next man up. Next man up is a little different when there's a $20 million drop-off. Yeah, especially at offensive line. Yeah. They don't make them as much as they used to, allegedly. That's right. Could all the old-school offensive linemen play in the modern NFL or no? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 02:58:02 So it is just like the younger generation. I had a mindset towards the end of my career. Obviously, the next thing kind of ended it. But it was like I can steal years because guys are coming in not ready to go. I can steal three years on the back end. I think a lot of veteran guys can sit here and just – I mean, they might have been 12-year players. They can turn into 15 years if they just –
Starting point is 02:58:22 Because the state of offensive line in this younger generation. Yeah, it's like... Seven on seven is obviously very popular. Yeah, we talk about the college game, right? The college game is completely different. So these guys, some of these guys are never in three-point stances. Some of these centers have never snapped a ball under center. Some of these tackles are just told, hey, we're going to run play action.
Starting point is 02:58:37 We're just going to go this way. We're going to run an RPO. Well, now you get in the league and you've got to block Max Crosby. It's a big deal. Well, hey, we need to keep spotlighting and we need to keep block Max Crosby. It's a big deal. Well, hey, we need to keep spotlighting it. We need to keep coaching it. That's right. And that's why we go into trenches with AQ Shipley every single week. Great work there, AQ.
Starting point is 02:58:52 Maybe AQ. Hey, you want to make this day a little bit better for somebody today? Let's do it. Oh, yeah. Here we go. What do we think? Drain it. You tell me, bub.
Starting point is 02:58:59 I don't like how many footballs are up here. That's going to change. This is potentially the last day with the amount of footballs that are up here. Sure. I don't like the way it looks. I don't like the way it's looking at me. I don't like how many footballs are up here. That's going to change. This is potentially the last day with the amount of footballs that are up here. Sure. I don't like the way it looks. I don't like the way it's looking at me. I don't like the way it looks. Okay.
Starting point is 02:59:09 I also don't like whenever we're eight deep still acting like it's impressive. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, that is the whole. I'm about done with it. I mean, some spooky putts would be cool. Spooky putts would be cool. In the graveyard. Is that what you want to do?
Starting point is 02:59:26 I'd rather stay here. Okay. Never mind. Just kidding. No, yeah. Next week. It want to do? Okay. Never mind. It'll be there next week. It'll be close to Halloween next week too. Alright, so you're throwing a football into that hoop right over there? Wemby Senior. Wemby Senior.
Starting point is 02:59:40 If you put it in that hoop right over there, which we think is going to be tough. With Wembley Senior? Wembley Senior now with the head lighting up there. Come on. You got to have this horseman here. You got a guardian cap wearer. A little bit too late, it seems like, on that particular head.
Starting point is 02:59:54 Yeah, it does. Dead. Idiot. Thank you. If you make that football in that hoop right over there, 25 people will win $500 about a week out from Halloween. You know what Halloween kicks off? What's that?
Starting point is 03:00:08 The entire holiday season. $500 going into the holiday season? Yeah. From your friend at AQ Shipley, if he puts that football into that hoop right over there, why not AQ? For the people!
Starting point is 03:00:21 Oh! That was a good throw. I thought that was it. I like that. Good aggressive line. Here we go. Looked great. That was really throw. I thought that was it. I like that. Good aggressive line. Here we go. Looked great. That was really good.
Starting point is 03:00:28 I thought that was it. AJ. I went for the far corner to get the comeback. Hey, Q, I don't know if you know this. You were certainly better against Wisconsin than JJ could have ever expected. He didn't know. He had no idea. The numbers are right there.
Starting point is 03:00:42 You actually looked them up? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you had to look them up. Let's make sure he knows them. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you're doing great. Yeah, you're doing great. Right at the camera.
Starting point is 03:00:52 In 2005, you see, when A.K. was just a little defense alignment, I think. I played in that game on defense. Played in the game? Played in that game on defense. Yeah. They won 35-14 over Wisconsin. No big deal. 2006? Had a sack in that game. Played in that game on defense. Yeah. They won 35-14 over Wisconsin. That's right.
Starting point is 03:01:06 2006. Had a sack in that game. 13-3 loss. What? You guys lost to Wisconsin? Yeah, that was the game Paterno broke his leg on the sideline. Okay, that doesn't count. Not going to be able to win. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:16 Did he poop that game too or no? Yeah, I think that was that day. Okay. Yep. That was a tough day. Dump games don't count. Tough day. Yeah, Dumpkin Spice can't have that.
Starting point is 03:01:24 No. 2007, 38-7. Win. Jeez. That's a tough day. Dump games don't count. Yeah, dumpkin spice. Can't have that. No. 2007, 38 to win. That's a big win. Yikes. Domination. And then 2008. At Wisconsin. In Camp Randall, 48-7.
Starting point is 03:01:35 Jump around. Jump around. Jump up, jump up, get down. Get the fuck out. Jump, jump, jump. And you were jumping over there, weren't you? Oh, yeah. You were jumping. I assume you were a over there, weren't you? Oh, yeah. You were jumping.
Starting point is 03:01:45 Oh, man. I assume you were a baby whale in that thing. Maybe a little otter seal. Doing that whole thing. Good for you. That sounds like a fun time. Will James Franklin be able to lead the boys into Camp Randall and do the same thing that A.Q. Shipley did?
Starting point is 03:01:58 I think so. We'll find out. He thinks so. I think so. Okay. I think you're going to make this shot. AJ, do you have anything to say to A.Q. Shipley, a man who was incredibly successful against Wisconsin during his college tenure?
Starting point is 03:02:09 Well, congrats on how successful you were, A.Q. Obviously, Jage realized real quick that was the wrong question, but also why you've started missing all your shots since you put the Crocs away. They're canes. I made one last week. Whatever they were. They're rubber shoes. You know, the canes are actually...
Starting point is 03:02:28 Yeah. They bring the boom. That's what he wears? Yeah. Well, Big Costco does. Big Costco brings the boom in the cane shoes. He brings the boom. That's what he...
Starting point is 03:02:42 Is that it? Yeah. People are saying that's why you stop wearing them He's got a couple different ones now too That's Big Costco No this one's going in Yeah they got this one too They're doing this one
Starting point is 03:02:50 This one's going in And I think they're doing like a little fucking uppercuts They do this one Yep And I think even else Yeah I think there is Yeah They're waiting to bring the whole turn in
Starting point is 03:03:00 Oh I love it I love it Alright Akeesh Here we go Good morning football I was talking about that earlier today too we should they work we should have got that streggs was bringing the boom on the stage he was oh sweet we had an nfl network clip on today yeah yeah I saw that sure what's that AJ shrag sounded great too. He had a good shirt on. He had that great shirt.
Starting point is 03:03:28 Yeah, he's tan. Very nice shirt. His hair looked good. Yep. Always does. I don't remember. It looked good. Someone will screen grab it.
Starting point is 03:03:39 All right, Age, anything other than saying you're sucked since you lose the shoes that Big Costco wears? No, I'm trying to pump them up. I mean, maybe someone should snap the ball to him. Let him take a little three-step drop. Maybe you should snap it to yourself. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because you're a center.
Starting point is 03:03:56 You could do that. Oh. Yeah, yeah, do that, I think. We need cadence. I don't want you to need good cadence. Yep. 25 people, $500. If AQ's
Starting point is 03:04:07 able to put that football into that hoop right over there. The quarterback. No, you are center. You are. That's a good one. Wide action. You got to snap the ball. The guard didn't know the cadence.
Starting point is 03:04:23 Guard jumped off sides. You got to make sure everybody's on the same page. You didn't snap the ball. Yeah, but it didn't get an airtight shotgun. That's the quarterback getting the snap. Oh, was that a shotgun catch? Yeah, it can flop it off high enough when you turn around and catch.
Starting point is 03:04:37 It was off sides. I'm going to look like a real dipshit right now. No, you're an athlete. Remember you trained with the Army Rangers. Points supposed to be up. Well, there gains just happened yeah it was on the quick tackle didn't you first sound you're supposed to grab the point too yeah exactly we need a little bit different a little sauce on this thing what's it on what's it there it is look at that look how flexible it is what's it on is this what we do yeah super athletic holy athletic. Holy shit, in those pants? Mike's 52. What skates were we on?
Starting point is 03:05:07 I'm on 101. 101, okay. Stop, Mike! Why is that? Yep. That was pretty good. That was on one. That would have been a good one to make.
Starting point is 03:05:19 That would have worked. See that again. That's a tough throw. It really is. It is difficult from stage. I like that we're making excuses. Tough for is. It is difficult from stage. I like the word make an excuse. Tough or snap. Should have done spooky putts.
Starting point is 03:05:28 Next week, there's a chance he gets spooked out on a green a little bit. He's making this one. This one's going in. Dee Butch, anything you can say to AQ Shipley? You're a Hall of Famer now. Just keep that from one Hall of Famer to another. Keep that left elbow tucked. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:43 25 people, $500. If Whippeal basketball legend A.Q. Shipley can put that football into that hoop right over there. Going into the holiday season,
Starting point is 03:05:52 elbow tucked. Coach D-Butt and Kevin O'Connell. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh. Man, it feels like the universe working
Starting point is 03:06:03 against you right now. All over. The Toxic Table actually has a nice message that they put together to tell you so that you can really find the inspiration to put that football into that hoop right over there so 25 people can win $500. Toxic Table, take it away, boys. Bring the boom, AQ. It's what you do. Bring the boom, AQ.
Starting point is 03:06:23 Bring the boom to you. Thank you, Toxic Table. Well said. 25's what you do. Bring the boom, AQ. Bring the boom to you. Thank you, Toxic Table. 25 people, $500. I don't know how you miss after that. This guy can't bring the fucking boom to Boomy. What's he doing? Here we go. Crow hops into it.
Starting point is 03:06:42 Trying to guide it a little bit. Timing, too. It's like two and a half seconds after you stop. You know what? He needs to go. Remember when he turned around and he made that jumper from the stage? Less thinking, more AQs to take over. 25 people, $500. Oh, that would have been so cool. Look good. Look good.
Starting point is 03:07:02 For Christ's sake. This isn't amateur. There you go. Okay. That's for Christ's sake. Yeah, I mean, this isn't just, this isn't amateur. I'm gunslinging it like Jordan Lowe. There you go. Okay, that's what we need at $25,000. You look more like Anthony Richardson. Incredibly athletic, a little thicker. He's Jack.
Starting point is 03:07:14 Super Jack. A little thicker. Bang. 25 people, $500. All you got to do is put that on. Oh, oh. You got robbed. The more casual, the higher chance.
Starting point is 03:07:23 Oh, yeah. Casual, he's there. The more,, the higher chance. They're all over it at Cuse. Casual, he's there. Here we go. Let's go to Hammer. Don. Don. Don Diggs, anything to say to the man that you drive into work every single Wednesday? Yeah, Cuse, you're normally a scumbag.
Starting point is 03:07:38 Maybe once in a while, don't be a scumbag and win the people some money. That's a good message from Hammer. Don. Don. Don. 25 people, 500 bucks if you're not a scumbag and win the people some money. That's a good message from Hamrick. Todd! Todd! 25 people, 500 bucks if you're not a scumbag one time. Todd did it. Well, I learned a situation.
Starting point is 03:07:55 Go tip it in! Get that in! If you can get that in. He definitely can. Definitely. He's going gonna take another football ladies and gentlemen we're talking that's not gonna work we're talking 50 people 500 if aq shipley is able to get that football into that hoop that is currently wedged in right yep like that's tough like cornhole take your buddy physics oh i like that i like. I like that. I like that. Oh, my.
Starting point is 03:08:25 That's pretty good throw. Yeah. That's pretty good. I mean, you're taking things. You're sniping things in the background for sure. But, I mean, if we hit it in, that'd be a good play. If he can jump up there. I thought he was going to jump up there.
Starting point is 03:08:35 He definitely can. Just go tip it in. Dunk it. Your Hall of Fame basketball player. There's a video of me three weeks ago barely touching the mat. Yeah, but you were jacked. Bring the chair. Just stand on the chair and dunk it in.
Starting point is 03:08:46 Jump off of Mitt's back. I don't know if Mitt's going to do the Hardy Boys, the base, so he can run off it. If you would like to throw out the other hoop, since that ball is wedged, there's a name for that when a basketball gets stuck like that. What is the name of it? I think it is just a wedgie. Wait, maybe it is wedgie. I thought there was another name for that when a basketball gets stuck like that. What is the name of it? I think it is just a wedgie. Wait, maybe it is wedgie.
Starting point is 03:09:07 I thought there was another name for it. Bad at basketball. We're in the area, bro. That's going to happen, dude. It's going to happen. Hey, Kush. Here we go. If you're able to put a ball into a hoop on this side and not wedge it in the rim,
Starting point is 03:09:19 we'll give, with the Duke, the Duke. The Duke. 30 people, $500. Now Now the numbers have gone up. Seemingly you're loose. You're warm. The chances of going in should be very high. Shouldn't it be, Ty? Oh yeah, it should be sky high. 95 plus percent, I'd say. We're no mathematicists, okay? That is not what we claim to be around here. But every number I'm looking at and thinking about is saying, that ball is going into that hoop over there. And when it does, 30 people will win $500.
Starting point is 03:09:50 All you have to do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to get paid digitally. That's what your friend in the trenches host, AQ Shipley, is doing for you right here, right now, live from the Thunderdome! Oh. Alright, sit down. We're not doing anymore. That would have been it. That was a good lead up. That was the entirety.
Starting point is 03:10:12 That was it. That was it. You should put your readers on. It's every other year. It's every other year. No, last year was a good year for me. This year, it's been a rough stretch. And then I think last year in December, I started to get hot. This year it's been a rough stretch. Then I think last year in December I started to get hot.
Starting point is 03:10:28 Okay, you're in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Fourth quarter. Most important time when your football needs to be the best. Put your fours up. That's what you're saying? That's right. Put your fours up.
Starting point is 03:10:38 I don't know if everybody in the back has their fours up, but that's part of the problem with the culture. Last year I was hot. I was hot on it. You're hot today. Tee, look at this. It's saying. That's what everybody said. I'm hot all the hot today That's what everybody said I'm hot all the way
Starting point is 03:10:48 I'm always hot too Put your pits away Nah dude It's third quarter It's okay to sweat You're right I agree I sweat a lot
Starting point is 03:11:02 I was actually pretty worried Whenever I was caught With the non-slide chaps. Yeah. And I was in a vulnerable position. Yeah. I was very surprised that there wasn't an immense amount of ass sweats. No, you're good. Immense amount.
Starting point is 03:11:20 It's efficiency. I am a full sweater. Me too. And those are just blue jeans. Yeah. So that could have been a much worse photo. A little later in the show, I think we have real, we're doing real disgusting shit out there. So happy it was a little bit of a dry taint there whenever I go down.
Starting point is 03:11:36 Well, good. Because later it was not. And boy, it started rubbing. It started rubbing. When it rubbed. Sweaty jeans. No good. Sweaty jeans are an issue.
Starting point is 03:11:44 I run hot. You run hot as well? Chafing all the time. Everybody in here is all cold all the time. Everybodyaty jeans. No good. Sweaty jeans are an issue. I run hot. You run hot as well. Chafing all the time. Everybody in here is all cold all the time. Everybody in here is all cold. It is. You do keep it nice and cool in here, though. It's nice.
Starting point is 03:11:53 I do try to. Well, I'd say the air conditioner works pretty good, doesn't it? Yeah. Chuck Pagano. I've survived leukemia. I've survived a broken back. I've survived this. You know survived a broken back I've survived this You know what killed me?
Starting point is 03:12:06 What? Fucking pneumonia From the thunderdome Cause you like it to be fucking arctic That was awesome He's here tomorrow Yep How's Chuck going to be today?
Starting point is 03:12:17 Fantastic I'm excited Alright let's get out of here Hey Q's way to let everybody down there Yeah I'm looking at it It's like a graveyard out there Yeah Well All right, let's get out of here. Hey, Q's, way to let everybody down there. Yeah. I'm looking at it. Okay.
Starting point is 03:12:27 It's like a graveyard out there. Yeah, well. Funny enough. Funny, Jay. See what I did there. It's actually a headless horseman out here. All right, let's enjoy the hell out of this. We're back tomorrow. Week eight of the NFL season kicks off tomorrow
Starting point is 03:12:39 when a big one happens on Amazon Prime. Vikings-Rams. Oh, that's a good game. Yeah. That's a good game. A lot of rumors that were Prime. Vikings-Rams. Oh, that's a good game. Yeah. That's a good game. A lot of rumors that were potentially circulating in the offseason have started recirculating through Jack Settleman is the name of the camp. And I don't know.
Starting point is 03:12:56 He's on Snapback Sports. And anything can be real on the internet. That's right. Okay. Anything can be real. Or complete bullshit. But there was some chatter, I think, about a Matthew Stafford potential trade from the Rams in the offseason.
Starting point is 03:13:08 Now, I don't know how real it was, but I remember a little bit of it happening. Now that Cooper Cup's available, people are wondering what Stafford's story is going to be going forward. I think what we're going to see is two guys spin it on Thursday. I think we're in for a good one here, especially with all the chatter that is happening around the Rams right now. I'm excited to watch it. I'm excited to see what Flores does. I'm excited to see what KOC does. I'm excited
Starting point is 03:13:30 to see Stafford cup. I'm pretty pumped for it all. Should be a great kickoff to week eight of a great NFL season. College ball is going to be awesome. Hey, why don't you come out a hammer? Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
Starting point is 03:13:45 We're in this thing together. Let's never forget it. Okay? Trade deadline day, November 5th. Let's never forget it. That's right. Yep. It's one.
Starting point is 03:13:54 There it is. I'm on my way, huh? Tony, anything to say? Right. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe Believe Believe believe believe believe believe believe
Starting point is 03:14:13 go Believe Yeah People at home can't say please buddy While I heard him. Mm-hmm. we've been having some technical stuff now people's voices at home are getting through pretty crazy what the fuck's going on around here all right belief belief belief believe i i i believe i believe i believe that i believe that
Starting point is 03:14:41 I believe. I believe that. I believe that. I believe that we. I believe that we. I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win.
Starting point is 03:14:54 I believe that we will win. I believe that we will win. We've already won, boys. Hell yeah. We have life. And we have each other. Let's never forget it. Team on me. Team on three.
Starting point is 03:15:02 One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.

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