The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1230 - MNF Recap, Pat Freiermuth, Shams Charania, Adam Schefter, Karl Ravech, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Monday Night Football game between the Giants and Steelers and how the Steelers offense actually looks explosive ...with Russell Wilson, and whether or not it might be it for Daniel Jones as the Giants QB. They also cover the breaking news that Diontae Johnson has been traded from Carolina to Baltimore, as well as Dan Campbell hinting that the Lions might be prowling on the trade market. Joining the progrum to chat about last night’s game, Arthur Smith’s offense, playing with Russell Wilson, in season Hard Knocks, and how disappointed he was to not be playing on National TE’s Day is Tight End for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Pat Freiermuth. Next, ESPN Senior NBA Insider Shams Charania joins the show to chat about all the biggest news stories around the NBA thus far, and breaks some news about who will be featured on Netflix’s Starting 5 documentary next year. Later, ESPN Senior NFL Insider Adam Schefter joins the show to chat about which trades we might see in the coming days and the breaking news that the Indianapolis Colts are officially benching Anthony Richardson and going back to Joe Flacco. Lastly, ESPN legend and play-by-play announcer for Sunday Night Baseball, Karl Ravech joins the show to chat about the World Series, if the Yankees can get back in contention after falling down 3-0 to the Dodgers, and what the biggest advantages and disadvantages in the series have been thus far. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our spooky humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Sports Tuesday, October 29, 2024, this program starts now. Football! It is awesome and week 8 of the NFL season wrapped up last night in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania as the Pittsburgh Steelers cover and win by 8 over the New York Football Giants. We'll be joined by former Penn State All-Big Ten tight end and current Pittsburgh Steelers cover and win by eight over the New York football Giants. We'll be joined by former Penn State All-Big Ten tight end and current Pittsburgh Steelers tight end, Pat Fryer. Moooo!
Starting point is 00:00:34 In about ten minutes, obviously, they're going into a bye. We'll chit-chat with him about how the Steelers feel after a massive dub last night. And I'll tell you what, Giants weren't until the very end. Now, there's obviously going to be drama around the Giants because of what Dayball said afterwards and what happened with Daniel Jones. We'll break that down in a matter of moments. But if you're a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, you watch Russell Wilson
Starting point is 00:00:51 play on that field, you think to yourself, I don't know if you're going to win the Super Bowl, but we can do some damage with this particular team. They can move to rock a little bit. Russell Wilson's dropping dimes. Players are making plays. Van Jefferson's coming out of nowhere. We need a number two wide receiver. We need a number two wide receiver. Well, Van Jefferson will step up. A 6'7 tight end. Darnell Washington out of Georgia has been getting the rock in the past couple weeks. And Coach Fredo, who we had in Indianapolis, he's the tight end coach over there. He's a dog of a man. He's been around the NFL for a very, very long time. Player and coach. He says, listen, we got a guy who's 6'7". Let's make him tackle him. Then Pat Fryer moves another tight end.
Starting point is 00:01:26 He gets in on the action. Russell Wilson is utilizing everybody. Najee Harris looks like a brand-new running back. He's running fast. He's running hard. He's running quick. Big catches are happening. There's explosive plays.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Holy hell. Are the Pittsburgh Steelers about to go on a run? They might be. Now we will certainly ask a Pittsburgh Steelers diehard fan in tone digs here in a matter of moments. But watching that Monday night football game in the city of Pittsburgh showing up in a terrible towel is obviously an abundance. And Joey Porter Sr. coming out and leading the wave. And Cam Hayward having a historic defensive evening for his 200th start for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I mean, that's a lot of defensive football over there. So, historic night, legendary evening in Pittsburgh, and the Steelers have a team that can really go. Russell Wilson, what he's been able to do versus Justin Fields. I got some Hembo stats. Oh, here we go. I got some Hembo stats that just got sent over literally before the program, so I didn't get a chance to get them onto a graphic.
Starting point is 00:02:19 You know, our graphics department is phenomenal here. Targeting George Pickens. Russell Wilson, he's averaging 13.2 yards per attempt and 20.6 yards per completion. That's with the yak, obviously. Justin Fields, 8.3 yards attempt, 13.8 yards per completion. Okay, now that was earlier in the year. Artie Smith's offense is brand new to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Starting point is 00:02:39 so everybody was learning the offense, including Justin Fields and everybody else, George Pickens as well. So maybe a little bit different story. Using play action, Russell Wilson passed for 157 yards against the Jets and 118 yards against the Giants. Have to have Naj run well. Yes. If you're going to use play action, you've got to be able to do that. Justin Fields averaged 42.5 pass yards per game using play action.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And his starts now was run game going as much as it's going now. Play action obviously vastly different. So every stat has a story. You've got to talk about it. But Russell Wilson has seemingly made the Steelers much better. And then Steelers under center, percentage by starter, Russell Wilson 56% of the plays. Under center, Naj gets a chance to, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Justin Fields was only 42% of the plays. A little bit different. And then yards per drop back under center that's gained. Russell Wilson 12.1. Justin Fields, 4.3. So everything looks better offensively with Russell Wilson. And Russell Wilson and Justin Fields have a good time on the sideline. They're friends.
Starting point is 00:03:34 They're getting along. I think this is a great outcome for the situation that the Steelers put themselves in whenever they bring in both of these guys. One for a trade from Chicago and Justin Fields. Russell Wilson, you sign him, only pay him one million dollars you let denver broncos pay him the other 40 million dollars that he's owed this year and a lot of people say how you gonna handle how you gonna handle it justin fields gets in there because russell wilson strains his calf in a conditioning workout before training camp even starts he starts winning games starts winning
Starting point is 00:04:00 over the city starts winning over the team a lot of people saying this guy can do things with his legs that nobody else can do this This guy's a playmaker. He's beloved. Mike Tomlin had to make the decision. You know, the enemy of good is great. We're looking to be great. We're good right now. I have to see what I have with Russ.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's working out. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. You're a diehard Steelers fan. When you watched that game last night, what are your thoughts? Yeah, Coach Tomlin couldn't have been more right. And I tweeted this. I think it was the second quarter after they had gone just down the field easily three straight times. Now they got bogged
Starting point is 00:04:30 down in the red zone three times, a couple penalties here and there. But Justin Fields was good. Okay. Four and two. But when you watched it and when they were four and two, and we always talk about it in here, it's like, yeah, we watched it and they're winning, but we know in the back of our heads. Can't win a Super Bowl. Yeah, not going to win a Super Bowl. Probably not going to win a playoff game. But then last night, like watching it with Russ,
Starting point is 00:04:51 it's like he has just unlocked this offense. And you talk about how good Naj has been. Naj has got three straight 100-yard games, but the last two with Russ. Oh, oh, oh, oh, that's a big deal. They were not singing that tune about Najee Harris. Obviously highly acclaimed coming out of Alabama. Everybody thought he was going to be a game changer. This is the next version of the boss, Jerome Bettis.
Starting point is 00:05:09 He's big, he's strong, he's fast, he's agile, he can catch, and it just didn't work out for whatever reason. Was it the offensive line? Was it the offensive coordinator? Was it him? Was it all that? Whatever the case, now three straight 100-yard games. He's always there.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Always there. Always there. Congrats to Naj. And there was another stat. It wasn't from Hembo. I saw it on the internet. Just like the amount of eight and nine man boxes that Naj is not seeing the last two
Starting point is 00:05:31 games versus the six games that he saw with Justin Fields. Because defenses do have to respect Russell Wilson and his deep ball. And you talk about his relationship with George Pickens and how good they have been. George also has had like 300 yards called back just on penalties and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And two foots. We learned last night that two foots do not equal both feet. Yeah, which is bullshit. And Jason Kelsey theorized at halftime, he said, so he puts his right foot down twice on this. Look at this. Almost more athletic to be able to bump, bump. Left foot never touches the ground.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Crazy. Ash cheeks outside. One ass equals two feet. One elbow equals two feet. Two foots do not equal two feet. Need both feet is what the rule book says. So this gets taken back. Think it would have been first time.
Starting point is 00:06:16 A lot of people obviously not thrilled about that. And there was a couple other multiple touchdowns potentially that got thrown out because of this particular happening. But George Pickens over the last couple weeks has been must-watch with Russell Wilson. Yeah, he's awesome. So, like, the whole offense has completely opened up. Like, Naj, GP, Frymuth, who we talk about, Darnell Washington, like, everybody. Like, Calvin Austin last night had his coming-out party pretty much.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Van Jefferson's been – ever since – this is all since Russ has been back. Like, it's been unbelievable. Artie's got his full playbook at display now, like they are doing Artie Smith, offensive coordinator, sorry that's on me so everything looks great the O-line is very very banged up and they're like even with that they're, the amount of
Starting point is 00:06:56 237 yards in the first half last night, Artie Smith has three 400 yard games as the offensive coordinator for the Steelers, Matt Canada did that didn't do that one time in 44 games as the offense coordinator in the last, I don't know, whatever, three years it was. Different team. So what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:07:11 I believe. I believe. When I look at it, I'm like, oh, this is. What happened to that defense though last night? Yeah. What's going on? Danny Dimes is making all the big-time plays that he needs to make. Third down multiple times, fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Third and 16, I think he hit one time on the pass. I think there was other third downs that they were picking up in the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter. We went up 23-9 or whatever. And we're like, Renegade comes on. Okay. Oh mama, I'm in fear
Starting point is 00:07:39 for my life from the law. All of the law. They of the law. They're twirling those dolls. Renegades on. Oh my god, they're twirling it. Let's shut this thing down. You get third and 16 right at the sticks. They make a catch.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Two plays later, they're down the field and then there's a 47-yard rushing touchdown. We're right back in. So the defense, yes, pissed me off a little bit last night because we had to stay up late because it came down down. They had they had two chances on game winning drives but before I said, yes, they pissed me off last night. The defense though, they are number two in points, number nine yards, eleventh on third down, number two in the red
Starting point is 00:08:15 zone, number four for four versus the running fourth and take away. So, they they've been great, okay? Pretty good. Good win Super Bowl. Last night, they pissed me off a bit but guess who showed up? Like, he shows up every single game. Clutch situations. Not who, where, when, or how, but. When? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 What a. DJ Watt. Uh-oh. Illuminor said, hey, leave me singled up against him. I'll handle him. Or not. Okay. Strip, sack, fumble.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Ball game. Should have been ball game. They got the ball back again. But no. Like, this full team, the special teams is awesome. Danny Smith, vote early. Vote or die. Vote often.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Danny Smith for president. I feel pretty good. Six and two going in the bye. First in the AFC North. Yeah, feeling pretty good. Trade. Trade, Danny Smith. You'll be first.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Trade deadline day is coming up next Tuesday. I don't want to die. I think you should vote. I think you should write in Danny Smith for president of the United States. Last five games, Pittsburgh Steelers special teams. Obviously, has a punt return touchdown last night. He should have been called back, obviously, for running into a punter. Clearly.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I mean, one of the clearest I've ever seen. And even if you didn't, he didn't touch him. It's like you've got to give him a place to land. Like that's part of the – Oh, well, we've got to put a pillow down for him now. It is the rules. But with that being said, still an incredible return. And Danny Smith continues the hot streak.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I think they have a blocked field goal, blocked punt, blocked something. Perfect on field goals and now a punt return touchdown. It's like that's in the last five games. So special teams is obviously dominant. Defense is going to be dominant whenever. And the offense is all of a sudden looking like, hey, we should stay up and watch this thing. Because you got to remember, for about 10 years, Pittsburgh Steelers offense has just been Iowa Hawkeye football. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:47 That is what it's been. Same colors. No explosion. None of that. And now it's like fun. Now on the other side of the ball, nine-year NFL vet, host of everything DB, good D, bad D, which will be broadcasting later today. Darius J. Butler is here.
Starting point is 00:10:02 D, big takeaways from last night. You can obviously talk Steelers anything we missed, but also for the Giants. Everything Tone hit on with Russ and his offense, the trajectory on his pass, and obviously Bill came on yesterday and talked about his deep ball, but just knowing the different trajectories the receivers
Starting point is 00:10:18 are able to adjust and catch the ball, he looked absolutely great. Danny Dimes on the other side, he didn't look bad. He made some big throws, big throws to Slayton. Obviously, we know big throws to Malik Neighbors, who's an absolute weapon. I think he needs to clean up the drops a little bit. And then it always comes down to the last play with Danny Dimes, the overthrow to the interception.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And then we know TJ Watt, who you cannot leave one-on-one, especially in high-pressure situations. Now, watching the game, I didn't know who that was on. Post-game, pretty quickly, we kind of figured it out. We get to the clip of Dayball kind of maybe covering his own ass here after the game. On the chip play, are you saying Daniel didn't make the right check? Are you saying it didn't get him in one?
Starting point is 00:10:56 No, it wasn't a check. He was going. Pressure situation was a clock. We had a shift with the tight end to get back over to Watt, and we didn't get a shift. We talked about it in the locker room. You know, DJ feels terrible. I'll let him know.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It was a shift that was accompanying the play. It's part of the play. He was kind of surveying the coverage, deciding what he wanted to do, and we didn't get the shift. You never forget? Fuck him. And they were lining up with him in different – sometimes they were lining up with him left a little bit more than half,
Starting point is 00:11:36 so we were making sure that if we put a chipper there that he didn't line up opposite, so we were shifting to try to get the help or we needed to get the help. The guy who won the game, we know that. Yeah. Yeah. What did you do? It wasn't a check, actually.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It was actually just part of the play. Part of it. We added it in the game because they started moving TJ to the other side, and we said, hey, if you ever see TJ on the other side, part of the play now. Just slide something over. That's probably what took place, right? Absolutely. Definitely what took place.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And, you know, a lot of times in that situation coaches say oh gotta go watch the tape you know we'll clean things up everybody makes mistakes but he definitely wanted to make it clear that hey the plan was to block 90 i mean high smith he had two as well but then when it comes down down to that last interception wasn't really any pressure in danny's face just kind of threw it off his back foot over singletary's head and And the Beanie Bishop who called game. Where's he go to school? Where'd Beanie Bishop go to school? Oh, Western Virginia.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Third interception. I think the second ever undrafted free agent. Was it Herm Edwards, I think? Tony Dungy. Tony Dungy. I'm sorry. Jesus. What was that all about? E-Bot.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Coaches, DVs, black guys. Good Lord. Whoa. Can't have that happen oh my alright jeez I guess
Starting point is 00:12:48 thank god the one about you brother jeez Louise anyways shout out to Beanie Bishop Jr. shout out to
Starting point is 00:12:57 Beanie Bishop Jr. and shout out to West Virginia creating more NFL stars every single day speaking of a school that creates NFL stars Penn State.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Okay, listen, this weekend, college game day is headed up to State College, Happy Valley, for a massive noon game that I know everybody in Penn State is all jacked up about. Yes, they are. Now, obviously, Ohio State coming to town, everybody's going to want to show up and show out. But I think there is a sense maybe up there of night game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 White out. White out. but i think there was a sense maybe up there of night game yeah white out 110 that whatever it is all going crazy well it turns out that game's at noon now oh so yeah we don't have the whole still cool still cool still cool still can do the whole song name yeah we can't do the whole song yeah dance. Yeah, but we can't do the whole song and dance. No. Yeah, you can do some of the song and dance. Yeah, some song. So I think they're a little bit like, hey, it's a top five matchup. Massive rivalry here, okay? And we can't even put on our full show. But obviously, Texas A&M gets a chance to showcase their whole entire thing.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Alabama gets a chance to showcase everything they got going. Tennessee obviously has what they're – We don't get to do that because our game's at noon. But nonetheless, that school has created a lot of greats, a lot of legends. And there's one of them currently playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers, fresh off a dub on Monday Night Football. Ladies and gentlemen, tight end, Pat Fryer. What's up, brother?
Starting point is 00:14:24 What's up, guys? How we doing? Hey, congrats on a big win last night. Congrats. Oh, yeah. Appreciate it. Okay. Big time.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Tone Diggs just went on a full run. Obviously, you know him. He is dramatic and ridiculous. But in this particular case, he felt pretty calm and cool. Feels like this is a team now with how the offense is operating, with what the defense obviously is, and special teams with Danny Smith doing that, that can go on a run and do some magical things.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Do you guys feel that in that locker room? And have you felt that all year? Yeah, we feel good. You know, our goal was after we lost two in a row to get six and two at the bye. You know, we're very confident right now. We're firing all cylinders, playing very complimentary team football. And Danny Smith has those boys rolling on special teams, man. He's got them rolling,
Starting point is 00:15:10 so we're feeling good. How's Danny feeling? Is his shoulder okay? I heard he can't lift up his arms to say a field goal is good, but he can certainly celebrate a little bit. Yeah, he's feeling good. He's in that rehab and sometimes in the training room with us, so he's feeling good. Let's make sure we're getting him some Toradol shots.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Let's make sure we're getting Danny some Toradol shots. Let's make sure we're getting Danny some Toradol shots. We need him all year. What an absolute legend. Last night, prime return, Austin doing his thing. Let's talk about your role in the offense with Russell Wilson. Feels like the offense has been unlocked a bit over the last few weeks. Why do you think that's the case? What have you seen from
Starting point is 00:15:41 Russell as the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers? I think Russell's done great. He's come in and he's been a hell of a leader for us. You know he's pushing the ball downfield without you know putting in harm's way which you know we preach about and he's helping us make explosives. I think he's putting the ball in situations where we can go make plays as playmakers without putting the ball in harm's way, like I said. So he's been awesome, great in the huddle. He's been good. Has he given any sweet speeches yet?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Because I've seen some mic'd ups where he's actually said to people like, hey, clear eyes, full hearts, we can make this comeback. And I'm like, damn, I didn't know that happened in real life. He seemingly is always on, though, right? Is that accurate, Russell Wilson? Yeah, he's always on though right is that accurate of russell wilson yeah he's always on man like he's never gonna let you um you know experience the waves of adversity through a game he's always gonna make sure you're on you're on go and yeah he's definitely got a lot to say in the hotel for sure
Starting point is 00:16:35 what was it like balancing during the you know when justin fields is playing and then russell wilson conversation was taking place pittsburgh everything that happens with the steelers people are going to talk about, let alone in Pittsburgh, but nationally, especially when Russell Wilson is involved in it. Was there any behind-the-scenes stuff that changed after Russell becomes the starter, or what we saw last night between Russ and Justin, kind of status quo behind the scenes as well?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, Austin, not really. I think Coach T's done a great job of guiding the team through his process and what his thinking was. It really couldn't have happened without Justin and Russ and their mentality. When Russ was hurt and he wasn't able to go, he really helped Justin and the offense stay on track, tell us what he's seeing, helping us out, and then vice versa.
Starting point is 00:17:22 When Russ got the start, Justin was in there every single day day working hard continuing his routine uh being there for everyone on the sidelines so credit those two i mean that's a tough situation for any team to go through um you know but credit to them for for allowing us to um you know keep going forward with it we try to talk about the complexities of it all especially in the football world about a quarterback like a quarterback is it is different. That position is just different, which is why when you tap out of that position, it is a different conversation than everywhere else. We don't have to get into it.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yes, you're a footballer. You understand. You heard it, and I assume you were flabbergasted as everybody else. Young, he's going to learn, but the quarterback position is different. It is very different. Whenever there's two of them, potentially, and Coach Tomlin knew that, I assume, so the fact that he was as transparent, his leadership through it all is obviously,
Starting point is 00:18:08 I mean, you guys' locker room always tight, isn't it? Doesn't it feel like the culture of the Pittsburgh Steelers is always going to be tight, whether you end up winning a Super Bowl or a playoff? Your team's always tight. Is that because of the culture that's there, or why do you think that is? Yeah, I think, like you said, the culture.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I think Coach T has done a great job. Ever since I've been there, this is my fourth year, just everyone understands the goal of each week, the goal of playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers, the expectations that come with that, the pride that comes with that. So he's done a really good job. And honestly, credit to Cam Hayward, TJ, Minka, those guys that's been here for a while, been our vets,
Starting point is 00:18:41 really helping the young guys learn about the Steeler way, all the greats that come in this organization. So every time we go out in that field, even practice, Coach Steve kind of motivates you to run through a brick wall like every practice, so credit to him. Yeah, Palomalu really, you know, he took some real happiness and joy from a lot of people. I grew up in Pittsburgh during the Palomalu era,
Starting point is 00:19:04 so obviously a lot of happiness and joy was delivered lot of people. I grew up in Pittsburgh during the Paloma Lou era. So obviously a lot of happiness and joy was delivered from Paul Malgas. But on the opposite, you don't think about the other side of the field, do you ever? When you're in Pittsburgh. And then all of a sudden you are on the opposite side of the field. And you're supposed to score a touchdown. And then his ass just does what he's been doing since he started playing football
Starting point is 00:19:20 and he ruins your life. In front of your family. Nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about that anyways there's there's something else that hasn't been brought up i don't think even last night during the broadcast go ahead d budge yeah pat you guys were you just talking about being tight uh how pissed were you not being able to play on national tight end day like i mean the branding and everything that you guys have been able to do as a position group has been great. Is there like a group chat yesterday?
Starting point is 00:19:48 It's like, hey, we're all going to go off today or Sunday. We're all going to go off today. How pissed are you about not being able to play on Sunday? Everybody loves Monday night, but how pissed? Yeah, definitely unfortunate. You know, I wanted to get on the holiday action. The tight ends were eating. I think it was like the most receptions, touchdowns, all that for NFL Sunday. But definitely pissed off that it was a part
Starting point is 00:20:06 of it. But happy that I was able to kind of get the limelight on Monday Night Football after the holidays. So it's all good. But there's no group chat. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought you guys were tight. Wait a second. Tight ends don't like each other. Are we having the right holiday?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh, wait a minute. Oh my God. There could be, but I'm not in it right holiday? Oh, wait a minute. Oh, my God. There could be, but I'm not in it, so we'll see. Oh, no. You got to earn it. I got to earn it. I got to earn it. Guy got a new deal, too.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He's very rich. What's that all about? I don't want that. You've earned multiple commas all of a sudden. Yeah. But can't relay into the group text. Oh, my God. Oh, Kelsey's a little too busy these days, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh. Okay. Tony. That is not. That is not. What the hell? Speaking of tight ends, though, it's unbelievable you're not on the group text. I do not like that.
Starting point is 00:21:00 We are not calling George Kittle right now to ask you why. Yeah, should we try and sell? We are not. Call Greg. Maybe call Greg Olson and see what the hell is going on out here I don't know I haven't done enough history on the tight end position I guess I probably should
Starting point is 00:21:13 the resurgence of the position though seemingly over the last decade or so is it the rules changes is it different athletes deciding to be tight ends why do you think the tight end position has become so valuable to every offense?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah, I think it's just, if you can get a good athlete at tight end, you know, it's hard for a linebacker or safety to match up with them in man coverage or zone or whatever. So, if you can get a tight end that can exploit the middle of the field matchups, it really opens up the playbook because you can't just guard the sidelines. You can't just play the run. You got a tight end that can, youups it really opens up the playbook because you can't just guard the sidelines they can't just play the run you got a tight end that can you know go vertical
Starting point is 00:21:48 up the seams and really create mismatches inside so um you know there's a lot of guys doing that um right now in the nfl so uh that's probably why for sure how's your blocking you've always been good blocker or no uh i've been struggling i struggled in the in the past but i think i've I've been struggling I've struggled in the past but I think I've already shouted out Artie Smith for you know
Starting point is 00:22:07 you know kind of bringing me in and putting me in situations where I can be successful at it so really appreciative of him and putting me in situations where I can succeed on that note
Starting point is 00:22:16 Tone has a question for you yeah Pat it was about a year ago to the day that it was Halloween last year and I dressed up as the devil a lot of people thought I was dressing up as a former OC of the Pittsburgh Steelers I wasn't it was just the devil it was Halloween last year and I dressed up as the devil. A lot of people thought I was dressing up as a
Starting point is 00:22:26 former OC of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I wasn't. It was just the devil. It was bad. It was bad. I'm not going to put you in a spot, but you just talked about Artie putting you in good spots. How has it been with Artie Smith this year as the OC as a whole?
Starting point is 00:22:42 How has he been with the boys? He's one of the boys, man. He's been great. He's been celebrating with us after wins. He's been getting us juiced up, ready to go. Yeah, he's been great. He puts us in situations, everyone, where we can succeed. He's really thoughtful about the game plans.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He puts us in advantageous looks to create mismatches and stuff. So he's been great, and it's just very relieving playing with him. He used to get beers for the offensive line right after wins back in Atlanta. And he was like, no, not in the locker room. I would never do that in the locker room. There's potential rules violations if we do that in the locker room. But he's always been like that. He's the son of a billionaire, too.
Starting point is 00:23:24 His football story is so fascinating because of everything else he could do. Like, he could have just kicked his feet up. He slept on couches in the Tennessee Titans facility, drawing up cards, get coffee for football coaches. Like, everything he's done to earn his stripes. I think he's probably very excited to be back just an offense coordinator role, enjoying life, doing ball. And it's showing out there, it feels like. M enjoying life doing ball and it's showing out there it feels like booth shows it feels like it's showing yeah it is and you never know what his background or anything like that he comes in he's part of the boys he hangs out with us like
Starting point is 00:23:54 he's he's on like i can't say enough good things about him he's he's a hell of an offense coordinator maybe you do the mustache like him maybe you should yeah you should probably not i gotta tell me faith about the beard doesn't look good oh amen yeah do the mustache like him. Yeah, you should. Probably not. I gotta tell me, Faith, without the beard, it doesn't look good. Oh, amen. Yeah, we all understand. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Pat, we heard that
Starting point is 00:24:16 the whole AFC North is going to be on an in-season hard knocks this year. Have they started filming that yet, and have you noticed anything like with that? Because Tomlin seems like the kind of guy who would really enjoy that whole process and kind of welcome cameras being in you guys' facility and kind of in your face on a day-to-day basis. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Coach T loves it. No, I'm kidding. But they started coming in a little bit, just getting set up last week. And so obviously we're on the bye this week, so we won't see too much of them. But they're going to be there right when we get back, praying for Washington. So, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:51 We just got to limit the distractions, I'm sure. You know, Danny Smith is going to love the opportunity of hard knocks, and maybe we can just highlight him the whole time. But chewing the gum, absolutely. Oh, my. The weight room. He is shirtless in the weight room. Hey, Danny's the man, huh? Oh, he's the best, absolutely. He is shirtless in the weight room. Danny's the man, huh?
Starting point is 00:25:08 Oh, he's the best, man. He's awesome. He's a good coach too. He's from Pittsburgh, so he's a yinzer. He's a good coach and he's awesome. He's committed his entire life to special teams and to being the Steelers coach. It's like, what a legend out there.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'm happy to see him getting some shine, Muth. Legit. It's big time, man. He prepares everyone. It's funny. We go in the morning, we'll go from a team meeting, which Coach T talks like for 30, 45 minutes, and then Danny Smith will tell everyone to stay. And then he's talking for another 10, 15 minutes about stuff that Coach T just talked about.
Starting point is 00:25:41 So he gets the boys inspired you know, inspired for sure. Him echoing Tomlin's sentiment after the team meeting. All right, special teams right here afterwards, just like Coach G said. Just like – No, for real. That is amazing. Does Coach stick around for the Danny Smith speech in the meeting, or is he out of there?
Starting point is 00:26:04 No, he's out of there. He's got some film to watch. I can't. Hey, Danny, make sure to hammer that home. I'm going to get out of here. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Muth, it feels like this year more so than last year also, Darnell Washington has been involved in the offense more.
Starting point is 00:26:18 How happy have you been for him, and is he one of the biggest, most athletic sons of bitches you've ever seen on a football field? Dude, he's massive he's his playing weight is not what's listed but i'm not gonna expose him right now but he's okay what is the one listed let's see what's listed i'm not gonna expose him obviously but we will certainly yeah take some guess he's massive it's like 264. I think it's listed as 264. He's not. He's got to be 293. Yeah, 293, hun. 6'7"? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And thick. He's a big son of a bitch. Moving. He's a left tackle. He's a left tackle. It's funny. When he's lined up and we're watching film and he's lined up in the line of scrimmage, we assume he's the tackle.
Starting point is 00:27:01 We forget that he's the tight end. No, I'm super happy for him. He's thriving in this offense. Art's been putting him in situations where he can make plays. If I was a DB, I would hate to see him running full speed at me.
Starting point is 00:27:17 What's Coach Fredo like? Is it one of his lines like, make him tackle you or something? I forget the way he views it. Coach Fredo was obviously... Go ahead. Make him tackle you. That's his phrase. Make him tackle you. Because you guys are bigger, obviously stronger, faster, and even if they do tackle you, that's going to be a hit that they have to sustain and deal with. Fredo is with us. He's the man. I assume you guys love him over there? Fredo's the GOAT. He pushes every day.
Starting point is 00:27:41 He's good to hang around with and crack jokes in the meeting rooms. The meeting room is very serious but unserious at the same time, so it's been great. That's good culture. Speaking of culture, we're going to Penn State this weekend. How's it going to be up there? It'll be sweet. I'll be up there, so I'll see you there.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You're coming up? Oh, hell yeah, I'm coming up. I'm not going to miss this game. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh why didn't you say it that's like aj hawk wow oh leaving the ios oh you're right i think you're right you're right do you guys do that to each other when you see each other in public you got a penn state thing on you go oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh and then just walk no people sometimes will be like we are Penn State. And then just walk. No, people sometimes will be like, we are. And I'll be like, yeah, Penn State.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's super awkward. Why? What's your problem? AJ does the same thing with Ohio. I'll go OH to him. He goes, yup, you know it. And then he's like, because he gets sick of it. I think there's too many of them. Is the we are the greeting?
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, we are the greeting. It'll be like, we are. You're supposed to say Penn State, but sometimes it just catches me off track where I just forget. And then is there a thank you and you're welcome?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah, so usually it's three times like we are Penn State, we are Penn State, we are Penn State, thank you, you're welcome. All right. It's real culture. We have culture at Penn State
Starting point is 00:29:00 unlike some other programs that we'd be down on, you know what I mean? Okay, let's talk about the culture. You feel like this is the year maybe for this Penn State team? Is other programs that we'd be down on. You know what I mean? Okay. Let's talk about the culture. You feel like this is the year, maybe, for this Penn State team? Is this the year? Could be. Could be. Hopefully, Drew's healthy this week. Drew has to be healthy. All shout-out, Bo, for coming
Starting point is 00:29:13 in and saving the day against Wisconsin, but Drew's got to be healthy, and we'll see what happens. I'm hoping so. Kyle Warren is a dog. Yes, absolutely. Is that 4-4? Yeah. Dude, how about that catch at USC on a double throw? Nasty.
Starting point is 00:29:29 17 catches. Crazy. Yeah. Are you guys becoming tight end? No. No, no, no. No, no, no. What's that? Who's that?
Starting point is 00:29:36 Iowa. Same conference. Fredo School. Yeah. We're close. We're close. See? We're close.
Starting point is 00:29:42 But he knows. Not there yet. Okay. Well, maybe if old buddy keeps breaking records every week, I think it will be his. Oh, one guy? Yeah, sure. Him and Moon? Yeah, two guys.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Hey, were you there when James Franklin tried to fight a fan? When was that? Because it feels like this is the best Coach Franklin that I've seen. Me personally. I agree. Like, we've seen a lot of – he's been around a long time. Yeah. And, like, it feels like all his bad moments were always being projected to everybody other than uh keegan michael michael yeah that was like the only
Starting point is 00:30:09 positive press that james franklin was getting because it legit for a long time but now it's like the team top five here we go and everything he's doing is seemingly good what would you say about coach james franklin for those that maybe don't know much about him like me for instance i'm going up there this weekend. Yeah, he is, like, behind closed doors in the facility, he very much, like, he loves everyone on the program. You know, it's not like if you produce for me, you know, I treat you a different way than other guys. Like, he treats everyone the same way, which you got to respect as a player and a coach.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He demands a lot from us, but he's always going to give you favors in return. So he's a great coach, great program guy, great culture guy, and so he has the team buzz right now for sure. I heard some Penn State fans not thrilled about this being at noon and not at night, you know, because the whiteout.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I did see that. See, selfishly, I like the 12 o'clock because you can play the game, you get home, you can maybe tailgate after, you can go out and celebrate. We beat Michigan in my whiteout year, and it was a night game, and it was like 1230, and I'm trying to go out, and no one's out. So it's like if you win, the celebration is a lot better after the fact. Yeah, from a player's perspective, can we have some fun?
Starting point is 00:31:19 How about that? You guys have fun all day. Oh, that's so fun. Oh, that's what we're doing. We're in a hotel, okay? And then we're in warm-ups in this entire thing. All right, well, good luck this week. Oh, that's so fun. Oh, that's what we're doing. We're in a hotel. Okay? And then we're in warm-ups in this entire thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Well, good luck this week. I'll see you this weekend. Enjoy the bye week. And congrats to your Steelers being great at football right now and inspiring a lot of optimism from Yinzers everywhere. Yeah, I'm very optimistic. It's nice. It's nice. It is nice.
Starting point is 00:31:42 It is nice. And if anybody ever sees anything I say, it's just in the heat of the moment. And that's just what it is. Was that to the locker room you were saying? Yep. I just said it. We did. We did.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah, I'm back in relay that message. What do you see? What do you see? This isn't good. I'm learning this. I'm learning this, by the way. Oh, we see it all. We see it all.
Starting point is 00:31:58 We see it all. Great. That's great. Well, we've only talked good about the Steelers. That's true. Yeah. Nah. I mean, last year during the Canada days.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That almost ripped our arms off. Yeah, you're right. It's a whole new year. It's a different team. We appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen. Pat Fryer. Yeah. They do see it all.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Everybody sees it all. Yeah. Including Hassan Redick. Bill Belichick came on the program yesterday and basically said, Hassan, all right, he's just running right by tackles. They're just running right off him. See you later, this guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And then obviously Bill Belichick has had some thoughts about how Hassan Redick has handled this all. He put a tweet out, Hassan Redick, in response. He said, hey, someone call Bill Belichick and give him a job. He's got like 10 jobs right now, Hassan. I will tell you. Seems like he's on board and can't keep me out of his mouth. Come on for air, why
Starting point is 00:32:48 don't you? Diddy, what? I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. There was no P. Diddy in the quote. I don't even know if Bill knows what's going on with Sean Cones. I doubt it. I don't know if he knows.
Starting point is 00:33:04 No, Diddy. No, did he? What does that mean? No, Jakey D? Is that what he meant? Maybe it was autocorrect from the smartphone. That makes sense. Nonetheless, he said it there. We will continue to try to figure that whole thing out at that part.
Starting point is 00:33:16 But Hassan answering Bill Belichick is hysterical to think about. Because Bill Belichick, everything he says every single week, we were just chit-chatting about the all Belichick team. Like, that's going to matter. And for what Son Reddick said, he needs to get a job. He's got like 10 of them. He's got a lot. This guy's dropping gospel all over the place.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Thursday, he's got that team coming out with the Coach Podcast with him, Lombardi, and Matt Patricia. How do you feel about, like, the modern world and how it's handled? It used to be don't listen to the press clippings. Yeah. Don't read the headlines. You can't respond to everybody. Now it's like, yeah, see Yeah. Don't read the headlines. You can't respond to everybody.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Now it's like, yeah, see everything. You have to see everything. And obviously, Friar Moose said we see everything. That's because they opened their phone, and their algorithm says, hey, did you see this? This guy buried you. And they do it to me. So it's like a never-ending cycle of having to deal with it. How do you feel that plays into this generation,
Starting point is 00:34:03 and how do you feel about it as a whole? Do you like it? I don't mind Hassan Reddick answering. Yeah, I don't mind players going – I don't mind people, men, women, whoever, handling and saying whatever they want to say and putting their name on it, putting their name and face on it. Whenever that happens, it is what it is. You say what it is and you stand on it. Obviously, Bill felt how he felt after watching the tape.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And then Hassan felt how he felt after listening to him. It was an incident like this with Trevon Diggs right after a game like you lose a big game on prime time against you know probably uh you know some sort of a rival with San Fran and you coming out you know coming at a reporter who says something about your effort so as a player I didn't like it it was times where I was just like wouldn't even search my name on Twitter. Certainly not. Because, I mean, you can have a great game. You get one first down, one touchdown up. It's like cut this guy, get this guy out of here. So it's just something extra to think about.
Starting point is 00:34:52 But these guys now playing, they've grown up their entire lives, high school, college, pro, with it. So it's just kind of a part of it now. Yeah, I appreciate people responding and answering. I think in the right time, though. You know, just like in real life. Like, if you're talking shit to somebody who is superior to you at everything, like, I think that's a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:35:12 At a bad time. Like, what's going on with the Jets right now? Don't think it's the right time for Reddick to say anything. Get a win, get a sack, then I think you respond. Sure. Just because you're coming from a point where you can actually have a little leverage and maybe dunk on somebody. The Diggs thing, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 He saw it and said, where is he? outside i know he's here i'm gonna go to this even though they just lost still on like open his phone this mother this is the interaction that happened outside the locker room after good all that whole plate after you took from that oh it feels like we lost the sound. We lost the sound because of the connection. We just searched for it. And then on the way in is whenever the best thing happens. Whenever he says, what about these nuts?
Starting point is 00:35:53 And walks in. And then these nuts was trending for 12 hours. And then a nice trip down memory lane of what these nuts used to be in everywhere society. I mean, so clever. People used to get so clever with these nuts ones. So I don't like that Diggs just kind of forced it in there. He should have said, hey, why don't you tweet about D next time? And that guy who was responding saying, you didn't answer my question. You didn't answer my question. If Diggs would have got him with a, why don't you tweet about D sometime? He would
Starting point is 00:36:17 have, I think. Oh, who's D? And then, oh my God, that would have been that would that would have been fantastic but it does feel like a world where you got to respond and uh if you don't respond and everybody else sees what's being said are you look do you look soft it's uh it's an interesting job we're obviously in the middle of it right now with uh anthony richardson right but oh yeah i think in situations like that it's a little bit different when you have a media guy like that who's showing up at practice and after games and like they'll rip on you and say shit and then act like nothing ever happened and then they want you to give them a good soundbite for their story or whatever they're working on like you can understand how guys are like no you can't just pop off at the mouth talk
Starting point is 00:36:55 a bunch of shit about me and expect me to come in and treat you with the utmost respect and you know give you something good for like to help your profession when all you're doing is continually tearing me down. So those situations I understand. That's what Twitter has just become now, though. It used to be you'd go to a game and you'd just yell a guy sucks and shit on him from the crowd, and that was that, and it was the end of it. And now Twitter is like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:37:18 After the game, I'm going to tell this guy that he sucks. And that's just kind of how everything is. And if you do it in a clever way, everybody else who wants to tell him he sucks is going to retweet that. sucks. And that's just kind of how everything is. And if you do it in a clever way, everybody else who wants to tell him he sucks is going to retweet that. And then obviously people that didn't even know you sucked or think that you suck are going to see this very clever wordplay breaking you down.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And then all of a sudden now a narrative from the player's side. Now a narrative's getting built that I suck when this is this one person's opinion in this entire thing. And from that entire play, that's what you took from it? That's what Diggs was trying to say. So you're telling me you watch that play.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And me, I'm the problem of that play? And then you don't know ball. You don't know ball. I was responding to that, thinking about it. I sent it to one person, and I decided I wasn't going to answer everybody. I was saying that to a lot of people that were Colts fans yesterday who were very upset with the way we talked about Anthony Richardson. And they said, we see running backs tap out all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Wide receivers tap out all the time. D-linemen tap out all the time. We need to normalize quarterbacks doing it. And let me tell you, you don't know ball. Yeah. Okay? That is just – They didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:38:22 You don't know ball. People saying that, yeah. A lot of Colts fans mad at me for saying this, and it's like, hey, Colts fans, I'm alongside the right... Do you know when the last time we won was? Long time ago. So whenever things like this happen,
Starting point is 00:38:34 it is my obligation, I feel, as a Colts fan, and potentially somebody who can be heard, to be like, hey, this ain't it. Now, did everybody else say this ain't it? Yes. Who are all the people that said this ain't it. Now, did everybody else say this ain't it? Yes. Who are all the people that said this ain't it? People that know ball, okay? Because the quarterback position is different than every other position. So whenever you're a quarterback, the future of your franchise,
Starting point is 00:38:54 a person who's supposed to take us back to the winning ways, got drafted number four overall, that fourth overall pick we didn't trade for, we earned that. That's how bad our team was. This guy's supposed to be the future, yada, yada, yada. You're not the future of a football team, especially at the quarterback position, if you're choosing to leave the game, choosing to walk off the field because you're tired. So if we don't point that out, I feel like we're doing a disservice to Colts fans. So all you Colts fans, I appreciate how much passion you have for Anthony Richardson being the future. And I think he's an incredibly cool guy. I think he's a very cool guy.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I think he's rap good. I don't think he's just a good athlete rapper. I think he's an incredibly cool guy i think he's a very cool guy i think he's rap good i don't think he's just like good athlete rapper i think he's a good rapper i think he's a cool guy i think his little thing with jonathan taylor was fun i think he's nice guy but also he's quarterback of an nfl football team you're a professional athlete brother this is how this goes this isn't youth this isn't high school this isn't college where they were not good okay they're like that is not this is the NFL brother and we got a team that is very very good and we can go on a run so when he plays great it's magical but there's little things like tapping out that like make everybody lose faith in this guy being a guy because you've never seen somebody that is a guy do that so that's just kind of the reaction.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And I know you were a little bit ahead of it, I think, D, but these Colts fans have been coming after me because I disrespected our quarterback. It's like I feel like it would be disrespectful if I didn't say it. Like that's how I feel about the whole thing. Absolutely. It's like if you're coaching a player, if you're talking about a player, if that's a younger player on my team and some of his teammates and coaches said, hey, they had a conversation with him. It's a reason why everybody who's been around the game or talked about the game had the same or similar reaction.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It's not like we don't like Anthony Richardson. I love Anthony Richardson. I'm rooting for him. Young kid, got an opportunity. You got drafted high. You have the talent. Yeah, and it's not like he's a shit bird where it's easy like, hey, all right, whenever he mess up, I just want to jump on this guy. But when we get on here we give our i give my honest opinion and i'm speaking how
Starting point is 00:40:48 i feel about whatever it takes whether it's a player or there's something off the field in that moment four weeks from now it can change hey he can learn from this you can go on to be a great player that's what i'm hoping for as a former colt as a colt fan but uh i mean i guess i appreciate the passion of the fans feeling like they have to defend their guy. Hey, look, a lot of you, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. When you come, when you talk to, hey, a kid tapping out when he feels exhausted, oh, bad, bad on him. Yeah, it's bad on him when you're the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:41:16 But, once again, it was one play. It was a lot of other things that went into that loss. We get that. But that is a horrible look. He understands that. Hopefully he learns from it and moves on to be still gonna win the game came back in plays great at times and has some mistakes it's like that's what we're expecting from a rookie quarterback and i and i think and even though he's in a second year rookie year because his last year got cut
Starting point is 00:41:38 short because he had shoulder and shoulder surgery that ended year after week five or whatever. So we understand the rookie quarterback, but the traits of like not being a guy are the things that can't like missing a throw sweet missing a read all good. Fumbling the ball on exchange multiple weeks in row all good. This guy can figure this out. Tapping out though like that is a something that's like this can't happen. I don't care if you're a rookie. I don't care if you're in your 10th year. There's only 32 that's like, this can't happen. I don't care if you're a rookie. I don't care if you're in your 10th year. There's only 32 of these jobs.
Starting point is 00:42:09 This can't happen. So I felt obligated to say something. And I do apologize to the Colts fans. I feel like I was bamboozling him. I was not. I was speaking the truth about it. Very positive. Very positive.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Very positive about it all because it's like this guy is a special athlete. Like a special athlete. And it's like he could, which is why it's such a bummer to see that happen because like what he could be if that isn't in his world and i i assume you can learn your lesson from this and change i i assume this trait is changeable well i mean you gotta you gotta get in shape that's that's the bottom line getting in shape would be a full that that becomes like a full commitment to that. That's part of being a pro. That's a lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:42:49 That's almost like a lifestyle. You can also learn your lesson by people saying stuff like that because otherwise if everyone just makes excuses for it and normalizes it, then it's like, okay, whatever. He's different. He's special. He can tap out when he needs to. You talked about yesterday.
Starting point is 00:43:03 How many guys have we seen, like, Kirk Cousins, like, they have to peel his body off the turf after getting just killed. And guess what? He gets his ass back up, goes back down, and throws a touchdown on the next play. Like, if you're not saying anything, then you're just normalizing it, and it is what it is. And then, you know, how are Colts fans going to react when he does this again and Flacco or whoever it is comes in cold and fumbles the snap in the red zone or something like that? Again, that's an extreme situation,
Starting point is 00:43:30 but that's possible. That was a third down against Houston Texans. Exactly, in the red zone. I was in the middle, but still. It was bagged up a third goal. That's a massive moment. In his head, he didn't think, all right, we've got a big third down here. In his head he didn't think all right we got a big
Starting point is 00:43:45 throw down here in his head he thought oh i'm tired boss i gotta like that can't be that can't be the thought so what we're saying is i haven't given up on anthony richardson but i think whenever you do that you make a lot of people think this guy's not a guy and i don't like that because i think ar can be a guy personally. Maybe at some point. People mad at you or D-Butter or whoever they want to be mad at about this situation. Steichen and Ryan Kelly came out and basically both said, yeah, we talked to him.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You can't do that. That is not the standard you play with. I think Steichen, I forget what his exact quote was, but it was essentially like, yeah, that's not something that you can ever do. You have to be in the football game. You're the starting quarterback for our team. Yeah, he knows he can't come out of the game.
Starting point is 00:44:31 When they had a private conversation, I'm sure there was a lot more said than just that. But the fact that people want to normalize something like this is absolute. That's a problem. That's a problem. That can't happen either. Colts fans can't get like that. That can't be who we are.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Well, that's stupid. That's a problem. That can't happen either. Colts fans can't get like that. That can't be who we are. If that was a Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback, and this is where I'm from, so I guess I have to judge this a little bit differently because, you know, that whole thing. If a Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback was healthy and decided to tap out and leave the field, I don't know if they would have been allowed to wear a Steelers uniform again.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Legitimately. I have no idea if you're even completely healthy, just tired, middle of the season. I genuinely, I don't think. And there's other places that are like that. Philadelphia? No. Oh, yeah. Could you imagine Philadelphia?
Starting point is 00:45:15 New England? New England? Any of these? Any football city? Yeah, I was about to say, I can't think of, I mean, obviously shitty organizations out there, but any, like. Carolina. Carolina, it'll be. Carolina, they big. We understand. Yeah, yeah. Should have tapped out there, but any, like. Carolina. Carolina, it'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Carolina, they big. We understand. Yeah, yeah. Should have tapped out earlier, bro. We get it, Bryce. Yeah, Andy, you should have actually been tapping out there. So, that is, that can't be how Colts fans are viewing this. Just as a person that is very invested in being a Colts fan, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:39 at every home game, you know, trying to make home field advantage better, basically, you know, trying to make home field advantage better, basically, you know, trying my best, offering up everything. It's like, that ain't it. And it can't be it. Now, you know what can be it? MCDC saying we're up to something. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Look out. Listen, up to something season is potentially all the time. Okay? You can always be up to something. But it's always exciting. It's always something where, ooh, right around the corner, what is it? Oh, who knows? You know why?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Because it's off to something season. Yep. Did Dan Campbell say they're up to something on that defensive line? And Aidan Hutchinson, here's him yesterday at the press conference responding to a question about maybe adding somebody to the D-line before trade deadline. Yeah, could be. Yeah, could be. No, seriously, has he come to you with something? Yeah, could be. Yeah, it could be. No, seriously, has he come to you with something?
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah, it could be. What is he doing? What did he just say? Run that again. He's kidding. Yeah, he's... Yeah, it should be. He's holding his hands on his chest.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He's a guy who can't tell anything. Uh-oh. Me neither. No, seriously, has he come to you with something? No, I don't know. Yeah, it could be. Maybe, I don't know. Could be. Yeah, type it up. Could be. Me neither. No, seriously, has he come to you? No, I don't know. It could be. Maybe. Could be.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Type it up. Could be. Could be. Has he come to you with anything yet? Could be. Could be. Zedaria Smith's on our team. Okay, that is potentially what he wanted to say.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Oh, we're making a big-time move. Yeah, we're making a play. But he didn't. He didn't say anything. Foxy is a Detroit Lions fan. Yeah. First of all, he has the Red Wings Army hat on. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Pretty cool. Okay, pretty cool hat. Terrible hockey team. Terrible. But it is a very Lions fan. First of all, he has the Red Wings Army hat on. It's awesome. Pretty cool. Pretty cool hat. Terrible hockey team. Terrible. But it is a very good hat. Hockey's awesome. The Detroit Red Wings used to be. Now they are a team that whenever they decided to have a tournament during COVID, they didn't even get invited to the tournament. Don't even. That's the Army.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Maybe MCDC can go over and lead that program. And maybe they'll – I assume he could coach anything. I agree. And they would win. That's how MCDC is as a leader. What does this answer say to you as a Lions fan, though? No, I'm just happy we're all in.
Starting point is 00:47:35 We have to make a trade. If we don't make a trade and we don't win the Super Bowl, I will not sleep at night. So I love MCDC doing this. And I've been checking my phone every single second waiting for that trade to come in. And to your point, I think it is Zedarius Smith. But, yeah, this pumps me up big time. Shefty said yesterday, Deontay Johnson, Zedarius Smith, I fully expect to be traded.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Maybe not fully. I expect them to be traded. The way he said it to us was like, these two are definitely on the block being shopped. You would assume that Zedarius would head there. Where was Zedariusrius before Cleveland? Well, he played in Minnesota, and then he played for the Packers as well.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And then the Ravens before that. He's bounced around to several teams. Packers he was very good. Very good, right? Pro bowler, all pro. Same with you. Vikings he was good too. Same deal. And his whole thing, he's moved places because he typically does perform, but then he wants a new deal, and I don't know if teams are really willing to give him the deal he's looking for,
Starting point is 00:48:26 so he ends up hitting free agency. Is he a MCDC guy, I assume? D-Lineman? Any D-Lineman could be an MCDC guy. Yeah, he can fit in for sure. Obviously, as a pass rusher, when you do have a hot year, to Todd's point, you want to get paid. You want to kick the Hassan Reddick situation.
Starting point is 00:48:41 You want to strike while the iron's hot. But everywhere he's been, he's produced if he's healthy. The Lions, man. What a team want to strike while the iron's hot. But everywhere he's been, he's produced if he's healthy. The Lions, man. What a team. That'd be so lucky to join. And we're not going to replace Hutch, but I just want to see effort. If we have effort as a fan, I can sleep at night with that. Hutch up there in suite there.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That was cool. Yeah, it was. I guess it was a really, really loud pop. So that's pretty sweet. Yeah, I can feel that. His foot half-socked. In that entire, like, pillow thingy around his leg. That was a nasty injury.
Starting point is 00:49:07 There was a nasty injury in NBA last night. Terrible. Guy's knee just... Yeah, did not watch that one. That was disgusting. It was gross. I mean, there's been a few of those going around. There was almost one with Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Did you see this? Oh, yeah. Justin Herbert was getting gator-rolled a little bit after... Yeah, trying to rip his leg off. He did. It was caught on camera, obviously, right in front of the ref. And then, teammate of his, absolute dog, Bradley Bozeman says, bit after uh he did it was caught on camera obviously right right in front of the ref and then teammate of his absolute dog bradley bozeman says what are you doing what are you doing what
Starting point is 00:49:30 are you doing boom yeah get off my quarterback love that now justin herbert obviously is saying all right okay okay i like the gesture let's not get you yeah you you piece of shit bradley bozeman has the c on his chest for a reason. He actually talked about the play afterwards. That's what he had to say. Yeah, you know, it was probably one of the dirtier plays I've ever seen, especially with my own eyes. He's seen the balls going two, three seconds, and he's still gator rolling. He's on the ground.
Starting point is 00:49:57 He's still gator rolling. And, you know, just protect your quarterback. Protect your quarterback no matter what. I think any of my offensive lineman that was in that position would have done the exact same thing. So, you know, we had to get him off of him and we're good. I don't know if any other offensive lineman would, but the guy who's wearing a C on his chest in Los Angeles certainly did.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And I bet Jim Harbaugh was like, come on in. For he's a jolly good fellow. For he's a jolly good fellow. For he's a jolly good fellow. I bet you that's what Jim did. Did you see this man? He was willing to kill a guy for a quarterback, man. And just kind of
Starting point is 00:50:32 re-emphasizing the point. Quarterback's different. Okay? Quarterback's different. I'm not saying that Bradley Bozeman wouldn't do this for any other position, but I assume he would. He's probably that type of guy. But in his answer, he was like, you don't do that to our quarterback. Quarterback is different. Always has been viewed different Always will be viewed different and if you're Justin Herbert you absolutely love this even though Herbert's not like a super emotional guy Even though after he threw a touchdown to lad McConkey. He was jogging off the field doing one of these
Starting point is 00:50:57 He's been showing a lot of fire and emotion Chargers JK Dobbins talked about it too and he came on about Herbert feeling a little bit. A little moxie out of Herbert over there. What did you see from the Chargers team? J.K. Dobbins talked about it, too, when he came on, about Herbert being a little different. But, yeah, as a quarterback, you see a guy sick enough for you, love that. If he gets fine, I'm sure Herbert or the other linemen will chip in and take care of that. And to your point, that is football. I remember a few years ago, I think it was Andy Dalton, Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:51:19 He took a hit and his old lineman just kind of stood there and watched. Everybody in the football community is kind of like, hey, what's's that that's not how it's supposed to go down so when you see this happening for your quarterback like bozeman said any offensive lineman in that situation that's how they respond if i'm a teammate of his and i see the offensive line not responding that fashion i got a problem with that old line so i absolutely love this from bozeman okay okay okay i think it was after the Ladd touchdown, maybe. The throw to Ladd-McConkie. He lost. It was nasty.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Ladd-McConkie, too. Come on, player. Bit of a dog. He brought the boom, too, after that. Yeah. Six of them. We are worried about the boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:56 No. We just saw. I just played that. That's why. They may have got the shark. That's why. What? No.
Starting point is 00:52:03 No. It feels like we've got too much of the booms right now. Who made this ruling? It's probably my fault, our fault, me learning of it, and then just driving it home every time I get to a microphone, possibly a part of the problem. Obviously, the Rizzler is really coming into his own. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I'm worried about how. I'm not worried about the Rizzler. We need more Rizzler. The Rizzler is the main character here, if anybody didn't know. The Rizzler is eight years old, obviously. He's on a trajectory that we have not seen maybe since Lady Gaga
Starting point is 00:52:35 wrote that song in that parking lot that night with Bradley Cooper. And then a star was born and that's just kind of... That's what the Rizzler's really done in this entire thing. Well, I'm worried about the Rizzler as well, because his role on Fallon last night was basically to sit in the chair, and they stuffed him full of sweets and candy, okay?
Starting point is 00:52:55 And we don't need the Rizzler football. It's an 8-year-old obviously taking over. They could have gotten him a smaller chair. I do think they could have gotten him a smaller chair. Or they have in the past put people behind the other people with a different chair style. This is a deep seat. This ain't the Rizzler seat. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:53:11 He looks comfy. Him sitting in A1, though. Right next to the desk. That's a big deal. He has earned that in the late night world. AJ was gritting his teeth because of that, I bet. Why? Because you can tell.
Starting point is 00:53:23 AJ was on the end of the couch and he was... Not AJ Hawk. You're talking a little Costco. No, yeah. I've got big Costco. What was his move? What was his move on Fallon? Usually, anything Fallon would say, AJ would just Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Big Costco is AJ? Yeah, I was like, dude,
Starting point is 00:53:40 shut up. Big Justice is the bullet. The humans may have jumped the shark, but doing the boom hasn't. Okay, so hold on. The humans are still riding high. I didn't know you guys were going to do what you just did right there. I don't like it. You didn't think we two were?
Starting point is 00:53:53 You two. We watched the whole entire show. After the show, you go and you watch the seven and a half minutes on Jimmy Fallon, and then you tell me what you think. Because we did. He's on to something. We're still bringing a boom or no? I'll still bring the boom.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Not every setting is right for everybody. Bingo. That's a great way to put it, actually. I mean, even Fallon, who's the most, you know, like, oh my god, these guys are so great, so funny, so great. He was making shit of them two minutes in. No way! Jimmy Fallon turned heel a little bit? A little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:21 No way. He laughed at the double chunk chocolate cookie. He enjoyed the double chunk chocolate cookie. No, he went to say it and he was like, what the hell? How have I gotten here? Well, and AJ and Big Justice went to do five booms and after two Fallons. He was like, yeah, yeah, we get it. Boom, boom. No way.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Jimmy Fallon? Yeah, he did. Five booms. Boom, boom. Yeah, yeah, boom, boom, boom, boom. We get it. No way. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:54:45 You're telling me James Fallon. A lot of that. Jimmy. He's laughing, saying double chuckle. Let me pay my respects to Jimmy Fallon real quick. Okay, that late night show host job is obviously one that is insane. And whoever got however they got it. There's always stories.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Letterman was first to get it. Leno got it over Letterman,'s always stories letterman was first to get leno leno got it over letterman which launched a letterman thing which lost to no pants which then lost uh craig ferguson late night he gets fired then late late night ends up happening jimmy fallon starts there he moves in the main role there's always a bunch of controversy whenever this happens show stop everything yada yada that late night thing all the way back to uh johnny carson johnny carson and uh who was his uh johnny carson had a uh nonetheless that's what became like must watch oh they only had like three channels back then okay so late night television was very important to everybody's career so they're able to book everybody they got exclusive to everybody as the world continued to
Starting point is 00:55:43 evolutionize you know now it's kind of become like eclipse type setting for people but holding that seat is obviously a massive ordeal in the history of entertainment and uh i think jimmy fallon is a talented son of a bitch yes guy can sing brings the juice all the time now there's a lot of things said about him there's a lot of things said about me too that aren't factual because of the juice and it all i think his interviewing style some people like mock and make fun of he's just trying to bring a juice no doubt he's trying to bring the boom all the time uh if he said he's done with uh big costco and little costco that would be a very large surprise in my eyes because he tries to put everybody over bingo everybody comes on the show he tries just like like i'm trying to make people feel good when
Starting point is 00:56:24 they come on the show so they want to come on the show in the future because it makes the show better whenever we're not talking other people are talking when i'm not talking and other people are talking and jimmy's like the king of that almost like trying to make him feel good you're telling me he he couldn't even buy i was surprised he wasn't really ready for it we're saying no heat from the crowd either can you can you imagine getting tickets to that the night before you got lady gaga and Brad Pitt getting interviewed by Jimmy Fallon. You come the next night and you got Big Justice and AJ out there. I mean, just yikes.
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Starting point is 00:57:54 Visit your Toronto area Ford store or Ford.ca. Football! It is awesome, and we're just a couple days away from Halloween. I just realized that. As I was saying, spooky. I was like, it's not just the Thunderdome that's spooky right now. Whole world's spooky.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Also, 80 degrees outside in Indianapolis. Love it. I don't know how long this is happening, but the leaves have turned. They're beautiful. Trick or treat's going to be insane, I assume, on Thursday. Yeah, cold. It's supposed to be like 90% chance of rain on Thursday. Move it up.
Starting point is 00:58:28 They need to make an automobile. I checked the hourly. It should be done by like 5 o'clock and trick-or-treating starts at 5.30, so we should be alright. Trick-or-treating is some of my fondest memories as a kid. Anybody can do it. You know, so it's like everybody's doing it. Anybody can do it. It is a phenomenal holiday and it's nice
Starting point is 00:58:44 to see people put effort in the house, in a Thunderdome. Shout out ZD. Good move here, pal. Getting this whole place ready to go. And remember, Halloween episode on Thursday. We will be in full costume. That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah. When did you stop trick-or-treating? Like, what age? Last year. Junior high, maybe? God. That's the toxic table I bought for Connor and that toxic man. One half of the hammer.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Dad! Cowboys AP tone. And the nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, just just asked that particular question when did you stop trick-or-treating i don't remember i genuinely look joining us now from an attic in ohio certainly a man who will remember exactly the day he stopped that's right college football national champion super bowl champion ronald cup winner aj hawk aj when you stop trick-or-treating hair looks great i pro uh i would guess like maybe seventh grade. Sixth grade and seventh grade, you probably think you're too cool for school a little bit.
Starting point is 00:59:29 You maybe go out with your buddies a little bit and just pal around. I guess junior high, seventh grade. Seventh was the last year, I remember. Do you feel old, too? Do you feel old, too? I think you feel old. You're taller than everybody. You feel like you're being a bully, maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:44 As soon as you elbow a five-year-old for a large Kit Kat, you're like, all right, I should probably call this one. Book yourself a beer. How about when you're waiting in line behind, like, four seven-year-olds? Yeah. And then you're standing there. Come on! Their parents are behind them.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Say, thank you. Make sure you say thank you, because that's what I do with my kids. And then you see, like, a sophomore kid who parks his car in the driveway, and he's going out there getting king-sized. Sir? Excuse me? What are you guys giving out? Big ones? No way anybody gets to your state.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I got four kids. We're hitting the streets. We don't have any. We're not there. You're going to somebody else's neighborhood and hitting the street? Yeah, we just walk a little ways. There's great neighborhoods all around us. Yeah, you got to scout the neighborhoods. Yeah, a lot of Ohio houses giving out bullets.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Like, hey, gear up. All right, we got Zinn. We got some bullets. You want some more, bro? Ammo's expensive. I don't know. That's a lot. You would know, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 01:00:40 It is. I think the price only goes up, too, whenever situations happen. It always feels like it's a little bit of a quite a. I mean, that thing goes like from here. Stock up. Just gosh darn inflation. Well, I don't know if that's the case, but nonetheless, maybe in Ohio, that's how it goes.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I hope everybody enjoys the hell out of Halloween and, you know, gets a chance to dress up. Hell yeah. AJ, you got your costume ready for Thursday? Yeah, I think I'm ready. I've been going back and forth. I think I have it. Is this like a full on? No, it's not a thing.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I mean, I put effort into it. I put thought into it. Yes, I don't know if it's going to be decent or not, but I'm going to put a lot of effort into it. I'm a little bit worried. I've not tried mine on yet. Thought about this weeks ago. This furthest out, I've thought about something in a while. Love it. I love to
Starting point is 01:01:26 hear that. Thought about it weeks ago. Have not tried it on, though. And we are two days out, so there's a chance it's a full backfire. I just tried mine on. It is tight. Okay. That's a good thing. Should work. Should work. More aerodynamic. And we gotta remember,
Starting point is 01:01:41 we gotta speak for a few hours. Oh, yeah. So whatever we wear, microphone, you know, has to be heard in that whole thing, which I am a little bit worried about, you know. Okay. Oh, a little Easter egg there. What are you going to be? A little tree, a little nugget. You bringing the boom? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:01:58 Well, I might have to change after this, Jimmy. Hey, did you hear about booms last night? They're in the chat on TikTok Live. We'd like to let them know. Hey, great idea. I still love the dance. Great idea.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Great concept. Just not do Fallon any time soon. You tell me Jimmy Fallon got sick of him? There's no way. He's the perfect guy for them to go on. Agreed. Cut the tape. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Cut on the tape. Hey, Big Costco, Ty said you need Poor performance Is there some egos Are there some egos going around Is that what's going on Like everybody wants to be the top dog I don't know if it's necessarily that It was kind of just like
Starting point is 01:02:33 Jimmy You know Which he To your point Never does Was kind of just like Two minutes in like Alright I'm done with the
Starting point is 01:02:39 Fucking shtick Sounds like a Jimmy problem We get it I'm not going to let you Railroad this and do Boom Boom Boom Boom He was not about it He was not about it Sounds like a Jimmy problem. We get it. I'm not going to let you railroad this and do boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He was not about it. He was not about it.
Starting point is 01:02:49 They were going to do five booms. And to Ty's point, he cut them off. Actually, Big Justice and AJ kept going. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Shoot.
Starting point is 01:03:02 That's what happened. I need to see it. That's what happened. They had the graphics for him and all. I don't know. I think Jimmy was pumped to have the booms there. He was pumped to have Rizzler. Well, Rizzler's seat one over there.
Starting point is 01:03:11 That's a big deal. Hey, Costas, good work. Still love you guys, obviously. Keep going. We certainly do. AJ, have you been paying attention to these NFL games and their graphics at all? I've been trying. Why?
Starting point is 01:03:23 Did you see anything unusual? Well, like on Monday Night Football last night, the three timeout lights, both, you know, kind of same color. All right? Fox, the timeout lights, which are very important, especially as football fans continue to learn about the game and about the sport and everything like that. They know how important timeouts are.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Very clear to see. The Arizona Cardinals have two timeouts there, right? Dolphins have three timeouts right there, right? Very clear, very easy. A massive piece of narrative building is around situational football and game management. Fans know more about it now than ever, and if they don't, aggregators who are following everything know.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So I think they should make it as easy to see. Look at a CBS one. Look at a CBS one. Look at a CBS one. Okay, look at that. Look at that. Now, I guess because the Indianapolis Colts graphic is white, they couldn't make it the same color as the Houston one. The Colts have three timeouts right there.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Oh, shit. The Colts have three timeouts right there. I had no idea. I thought they were out of timeouts. Bingo. Me too. And I was so mad. I was so – I got so – like, hold on.
Starting point is 01:04:25 So the Colts have no timeouts. We're in the first quarter. We're in the first quarter right now. What are we doing? What the hell happened? What is taking place? Like, something happened with McKenzie. Go downstairs.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Come back up. We have no – what the – what do we do? How are we this – this is an AFC South division lead game. Turns out it's just graphics. They do that because it's a different color. It's like, buddy, can't have, we need to know. I feel like the TV networks need to come together and say, hey, this is how we're doing it. Now, I would say, though, to the TV and to the networks covering games, I think it's been good this year.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Absolutely. I think it's been good across the board. You know, like Tom, a little early they started chit-chatting about Tom Brady potentially not being the one, you know, because Greg Olsen is so, so good. Tony and Jim, not nearly as much heat on them as there has been. Tony's back in his bag. Bingo. Not nearly as much heat on them as there has been. Joe and Troy, obviously, everybody appreciates the hell out of.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Kirk and Al, even though there's some people that have their thoughts about those particular reactions from Al Michaels, Al Michaels has said, I'm not yeah this is this is how michael's it's like feels like the networks have gotten more right than wrong this year in the coverage of the game now tampa atlanta not having a camera on the goal line i blame the networks because the networks are the feeds that are going in for the review system so hey for the good of ball let's put a camera down there networks but other than that i feel like it's been good football coverage this year, AJ. Yeah, it has.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I mean, this is crazy that this play, yeah, that they don't have a camera in the proper angle to actually figure out exactly what did happen. But one thing that does bug me, I don't know if it happens as much, don't tell the networks, please don't put anything on the screen yellow if it's not for a flag. Sometimes they'll pop up like, oh, it's a first down or second down, and they put it up around the little bug,
Starting point is 01:06:06 and every time I'm like, oh, no, there's a flag here. Oh, no, here we go. It just says first down or something. I agree. There was, I think, the Colts local broadcasts, whoever was doing that, they had like a yellow first and 10 thing,
Starting point is 01:06:18 and it was just on the screen, I think. I think it was a couple years ago. Anything yellow makes me think there's a flag. I agree, but it's been good. The circles on Amazon. The mics have been good, too. The mics are great. Even my kids ask me, Dad, do they mic everybody up?
Starting point is 01:06:33 I'm like, well, the center, the refs, everybody. We can hear a lot of cadence. And not just cadence. There's been a lot of hot mics. Hot mics happening. It's just fine. You can handle it. Everybody can handle it.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Agreed. Especially with what the internet is. is fine you can handle it we can everybody can handle it agreed like especially with what the internet is and if you know i'm i'm my daughter you know her and i aren't having full conversations with each other yet she understands stuff though so i i can feel for parents that say like hey if you say a naughty word we have to we have to figure it out it's like how come for civilizations and for generations and generations and generations it was okay but now it's like we can't you can't separate like hey adults are allowed to do shit kids are not now i know it's a much different world i know it's a much different world and everything like that but like on the internet now if anybody's on there they are seeing and knowing these words
Starting point is 01:07:18 it's not like back in the day where who'd you hang out with that you learned what that word was you little bastard it's like you i heard it I heard it from you in this entire thing. It's like now they know it. So if one slips by, I'm happy there hasn't been like a massive, we apologize for a motherfucker slipping through during a football game. It wasn't supposed to be that way. It's just kind of moving on. I feel like we are getting to a point where everything's a little bit more
Starting point is 01:07:40 relaxed. Let's hope it stays that way. Some of the players might not love it you know because you know obviously you're you're i want to say you're a completely different person when you're playing football but you are emotions are high adrenaline is high so you could be you know a face of a business or whatever your parent whatever you may not want to say certain things and you score a touchdown you score some sacks somebody say hey you say some shit that you don't want out there so i can see some players maybe not liking it, but for a fan,
Starting point is 01:08:06 it almost makes you feel like you're there. You're even more there. In the back of the end zone, the guy scores and they're talking shit or you hear something in between, snaps or whatever. So yeah, the mics are great. I can see how some players maybe would not want some things getting out. Football is doing good right now. Great football.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Doesn't it? It feels like it's doing good. College ball, we got this weekend, Penn State, Ohio State. AJ, have you thought about it at all, what your expectations are for this game? Man, it's weird. With Ohio State coming off the narrowly beating Nebraska, people I think are not really sure what to expect. But, I mean, I'm pumped.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I have full confidence in Ohio State, though. Okay, you have full confidence in Ohio State, but people don't know what to expect from them. Are those your thoughts or the people's thoughts around you? I'm like, you know, saying like the people that I'm around, you know, everyone is an Ohio State fan. And so they, wherever I'm at, practices, whatever, what do you think of the last game?
Starting point is 01:08:55 They ask me specific things. And it's actually good because I get to kind of think out what I, I get to kind of think about what other people, how they view the program and what's going on and everything. So, but I feel, I mean, honestly, is AQ going to to be the guest picker i was hoping he was the guest picker this week i don't know i feel good about the bucket i don't know who i don't know who the guest picker is that's what my as soon as he said i assumed aq i assumed i don't know if aq got the call but he should have fall he certainly uh should have there you said you're at practices what are the
Starting point is 01:09:23 vibes there have you been there over the last two weeks? Obviously, you lose to Oregon. Oh, not Ohio State practices. I'm talking sixth-grade practices, first- and second-grade practices. Yeah, yeah, parents. Different people saying it. You talked to the general, though, right? You talked to the general? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Oh, yeah. He's at practices. What are his thoughts and Schlegel's thoughts on the vibes over there with a Ryan Day-led team that I think, with the amount of money that was spent on the roster, obviously you bring Chip Kelly in, old friend of Ryan Day, to run the offense. Ryan Day's just kind of managing things. That Oregon game's tough.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Obviously, very close game on the road early in the season. Still have everything in front of you. Nebraska, what's happening here? What's happening here is the question. But Nebraska just came off an ass-beating two, so they're going to show up with their best football. I don't think Ohio State fans care about that, but I think that's a very real situation,
Starting point is 01:10:10 especially with this Nebraska team this year as opposed to maybe in recent history. What is the vibes, you think, around the Ohio State team? They know that this year is a championship-robust year, I assume? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I think they know this game is kind of, this is it. This is kind of like a make or break situation where now we've figured out what team,
Starting point is 01:10:30 I think Penn State is probably in a similar spot. We get to figure out who we truly are and a big test against Ohio State. I think Ohio State fans probably feel the same way. Like, here we go. If we go out there and we go get a huge road victory at Penn State, maybe that'll kind of catapult them and give them the momentum they've been looking for.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Tom Diggs, how many losses will a team be able to have from the Big Ten or the SEC and still make the 12-team playoff, you think? We've been chatting about three all year. It's like there's a chance a team with three losses from the Big Ten or the SEC is going to be ranked high enough and sneak in a 12-team playoff, and then that's going to be the debate going forward. Last year, it was does Florida State deserve to be in on their third-string quarterback, or does Alabama deserve to be in with a loss after winning the SEC, beating Georgia, yada,
Starting point is 01:11:14 yada, yada, all that stuff. This year, it's going to be, you're telling us a team who had three losses during the year is allowed to play for a national championship, but not a team that lost one game in a power four, because the ACC and the Big 12 are being viewed differently. Tony, what are your thoughts on the conversation around that, and what do you think is realistic at the end of it all? I did think at one point that there would be a three-loss team from either the SEC or the Big Ten.
Starting point is 01:11:37 The more I watch the Big Ten, I feel like there's less of a chance that there even will be a three-loss team from the Big Ten because of the way that these schedules shake up. Like Oregon, they have the game that they have left. They got Michigan on the road, and that's about it. Michigan's not even great. And then they have the Big Ten championship. Penn State really has just Ohio State,
Starting point is 01:11:57 and Ohio State has really just Penn State and then Michigan. I don't think there's a chance any of those teams will get to three losses, but I think the Big Ten will get three teams, three or maybe even potentially four teams with IU. The way that that's shaping up is insane. There's a chance that IU, Ohio State, Penn State, and Oregon all have one loss. That's a real situation, and in that situation, I think all those teams would have to get in the Big Ten. The better chance is an SEC team that has three losses because they still have a lot of games against each other where they could end up like Tennessee,
Starting point is 01:12:28 Bama, A&M. They could all end up with three losses. You think about Texas? The cannibalism potential of the SEC is real deal. Especially if you look at Texas A&M right now. Texas A&M and LSU were at the top of the SEC.
Starting point is 01:12:43 That's why that game was so big. It's like everybody had forgotten about them. We got Tennessee. We got Georgia. We got Texas. Obviously, everybody thought Alabama was going to be able to go. Nobody thought about Texas A&M and LSU were at the top of that thing. And if they win it, they're taking up a spot.
Starting point is 01:12:57 So what are you going to do with all the other spots? It's like that Texas A&M walkout video. Did you see it, AJ? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I would assume they had recruits towards the back walking out, you know, right behind the team, too. Can you imagine not committing right there? If you weren't committed to the squad, like, yeah, Coach,
Starting point is 01:13:14 I think I'll commit tonight. I thought about Coach Elko, what his body, heart, everything, as he's just walking out in front of that team, the way he was walking. And it's like the 108 000 plus oh like that is such a great chant that i haven't really i you know they obviously have had to do it over the last few years but everybody being on board and then there was like a clacking sound because obviously they have a military at the beginning of it this was beautifully orchestrated it's like you got to figure it out right there and i think it legitimately you're walking out because obviously they have the military at the beginning of it. This was beautifully orchestrated.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It's like you've got to figure it out right there. And I think it legitimately, you're walking out there like a gladiator. I think it gets you ready for a football game too. It's not like a distraction. It's not like bullshit. Like I was thinking about how they had to feel. You're ready for war, I assume, in that moment, AJ, legitimately. Look at that tunnel.
Starting point is 01:14:03 I mean, look how long that tunnel is too with the lights and everything going on. Like, man, once you would – as soon as you get out of that tunnel, it has to be unbelievable to see the crowd and to see them all on their feet, too. Look at Elko. Let's go, boys. Yeah. Yeah, LSU's going to walk in here and beat us, huh? Okay. And look at the little hop two-step here from Coach Elko whenever he –
Starting point is 01:14:20 Boom. Boom. Boom. Oh, yeah. A little skip to my lo Lou there from Coach Elko. But Texas A&M with Marcel Reed, a quarterback, it's like, why not them? He's electric.
Starting point is 01:14:30 There he is. You got to compete with that shit. Like, you're another – any program, like, obviously, everybody got their own thing. LSU got their run out. Clemson. You know, every different program has their thing. But you see everybody start to level up,
Starting point is 01:14:41 and these social media teams getting better. Tennessee put out a promo with the black jerseys. They had to invest in that. That's a lot of money to make that animation happen. That's like real animation there. Do you think there will be a conversation, like if you pull up that graphic again of what the
Starting point is 01:14:58 college football playoff will be, like if BYU gets the first round by and they're the four seed and they just get blown out, do you think there'll be a conversation about, like, hey, absolutely the top four seeds need to get a bye, but should there be some sort of qualification change with the highest conference champion or no?
Starting point is 01:15:17 So what if the fifth-highest-seeded champion, too, the Power 5 champion or whatever, is higher ranked than one of the P4 ones, and they end up getting the bye as opposed to the P4 champion who is then out. I think maybe there will be a convo about that, but if these teams get smoked by an SEC or Big Ten school, the conversation is going to be, is this really a 12-team playoff for everybody,
Starting point is 01:15:40 or is this a four-team playoff for everybody else and it's an eight-team for the SEC in the Big Ten? I think there's going to be a lot of things we're going to have to navigate as we go forward. I mean, it happens in the NFL. Like, what was it, the NFC East had like seven and eight or a team, and obviously they had home field advantage and they got blown out by somebody or whatever.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Now they didn't get a bye, so that is a different situation. But, yeah, I mean, this year it is different because a lot of people don't obviously see BYU as a team. Good football team. Great football team. Great football team. But the Big 12 this year, they don't have that powerhouse team or whatever. That's a coin flip league. It's a great league. A lot of
Starting point is 01:16:16 depth in that league, as we've said. Thank you. They didn't say that on game day. But it's not going to be like that every year. No. Nico Mazzarelli. That first round of games is absolutely incredible. It is. I have to say. It's so good. Yeah, it's going to be like that every year. Nico Mazzarelli. That first round of games is absolutely incredible. It is. It's so good. Yeah, it's going to be electrifying.
Starting point is 01:16:28 College football is delivered. You know what else is off and running? What's that? The NBA. Yeah, it is. How are the Boston Celtics doing? I mean, you tell me. Is no losses good?
Starting point is 01:16:39 Undefeated okay? Yeah, I think so. So since you guys won the title, you have not lost? We have yet to lose in the last, I don't know, eight months. How many Olympic gold medals are over there? Three. How many are proud of it? None.
Starting point is 01:16:52 What's that all about, representing the United States of America? Well, I mean, some things are bigger than basketball, and revenge is one of them. Basketball is happening right now in a big way. Joining us, ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider at ESPN, friend of the program oh yeah shams how you doing shams what's up i i have to say it's halloween coming up in a couple days and i love the the the little kid all over the interwebs that that had the suit on like you
Starting point is 01:17:22 so i think i i think that might be the costume of the year. Well, no, no, no, no. Let's not have a lot of people doing that. But that kid was awesome. That was a very cool moment. I appreciate that. I became a Halloween costume after I got arrested for public intoxication in 2010.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah, it's a little different now than it was then. It's good. These ones are seemingly a little bit more positive response as opposed to the negative. So I am honored and appreciative. And there's some young kids doing some. I heard a little girl on the internet who was dressed up like me. What's that coming down the track?
Starting point is 01:17:55 Whole thing. Love that. Whole thing. That's great. Impressive. I need to see this one. I missed this one. I missed that one.
Starting point is 01:18:01 It was phenomenal. These kids these days. Kids. These brains on these kids. It was phenomenal. These kids these days. These brains on these kids. It is awesome. Halloween's amazing. Shams, how is the NBA going? Are we off to a great start? Would Adam Silver say that?
Starting point is 01:18:14 Or what's the conversation about the NBA right now? I saw LeBron had a bad shooting night last night. I saw that. That's not good. How is the NBA start to the season, Shams? I mean, Lakers' sons, they're off to 3-1 starts. Oklahoma City Thunder have been off to a stellar start. They look like championship contenders.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Boston Celtics, BC Celtics, they look like they're right on track. Then you have a few teams that are somewhat disappointing, whether you think about Milwaukee, Denver. They got to get their stuff in order as well. So I think when you look at the league right now, where Adam Silver's league is right now, it's a lot of parity. You look at both conferences, you have about six, seven teams that genuinely feel like they're competing
Starting point is 01:18:52 for a championship and we'll see where they end up come playoff time. Okay. Obviously, you know, the Boston Celtics are different than everybody else. That's right. This is kind of what happened last year. Everybody was like, we'll talk about the Boston Celtics whenever we get to playoff because they're better than anybody then you didn't talk about the Boston Celtics in playoffs so that led to Boston Celtics
Starting point is 01:19:10 fans and players saying we they don't even acknowledge us yeah ever and we're the best team in basketball we would like to let the Boston Celtics fans though we have a mass hole on the team and I got the trophy and he will talk a lot now there's some questions though is there not about the yeah I'm still undefeated but we are playing without christophs porzingis now i i do think that the nba doesn't want him to play just because if he does then the celtics are going to win every game by 40 plus points and that's not very fun for anybody but what is his status right now and is he going to be back uh january like we were saying before the season or where where is he at with his injury the celtics are targeting de, from what I'm told,
Starting point is 01:19:46 for Cristas Porzingis and his return. And there was a video I was seeing last night of him warming up before the game. He has not progressed to contact yet. But BC, if you're watching this video, you're probably licking your chops. You're getting ready for Cristas Porzingis to be back in the lineup. He looks really, really good. And I think if this wasn't a Celtics team that has the best starting lineup to me in the lineup he looks really really good and i think if this wasn't a celtics team that has the best starting lineup to me in the nba they've got the number one starting five in
Starting point is 01:20:10 the league for sure if they didn't have that if they didn't have the luxury of being where they're at now maybe you're a little more pressed to bring kt back but they have the luxury of having to be patient they can wait they don't necessarily need to rush him back at all if it ends up taking until December January it takes until January but right now they're targeting December it could even be earlier but right now they're really focused on that month he has to progress the contact and what I'm told this is where his return will be based on the Celtics have a program for him essentially once he's hit the metrics on his body uh his different body parts and different elements they're essentially measuring parts of his body and once whether it's his calf his leg his knee okay his you know all all legs all knees nice just lower body oh nba every every he just
Starting point is 01:21:00 had this this kind of traumatic leg injury um essentially once his body and those muscle groups are all balanced and he's hit those thresholds sorry he will be cleared for return but the celtics will be patient they'll want to make sure he's 100 healthy until he reaches those metrics he won't be back but they're very optimistic that will be at some point yeah a group of caucasian dudes in that conversation is obviously going to take it a certain way i mean that's 100% honest. But thank you for clarifying what Porzingis has to do to pass. His body parts have to pass a program.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Sure. They've got metrics on all these muscle groups in his body. Once he reaches those metrics, he will be cleared for return. That is the program I'm talking about. How are they all hanging? Good luck, brother. Well is the answer. Yeah, I just see them them good luck to porzingis on all these metrics on all body parts get it back to 110 absolutely maybe uh speaking of body parts we're resting them apparently go ahead d but yeah
Starting point is 01:21:58 speaking of getting to 110 uh joel and b started off the season obviously we know what you did this off season won a gold medal with team usa but then then hasn't shown up, hasn't played yet. I heard there's been some type of investigation going on with the NBA with the Sixers. What's going on with that, Shams? The investigation is ongoing. I would expect a result at some point here in the near future. There's really two sides of this, DB. One is the Joel Embiid side, which is that he has never had a healthy playoff run, and he's always gotten hurt come playoff time. And this is really a new strategy the Sixers and Joel Embiid are taking on, which is essentially, and I reported this plenty of times, this is the new normal for Joel Embiid. Periodic timeout over the course of
Starting point is 01:22:42 the season. He's going to routine checkups on his knee, his foot, any other body part that acts up. And that will be a part of the season for him. On the other hand, from the NBA perspective, there's no specific injury that the Sixers have cited. So when you think about Kawhi Leonard, when you think about Chris Middleton, Kawhi Leonard has a serious right knee inflammation issue. Chris Middleton is coming off double ankle surgeries. And so there are specific injuries that you can define. They're black and white. Here in this Joel Embiid situation, the Sixers have said there's no injury here. He's actually lost 20, 25 pounds. He's in great shape. There's no re-injury. So from the NBA's perspective and people around the league is what's the issue with Joel Embiid he just is
Starting point is 01:23:25 not in shape he hasn't practiced or played all training camp so it would be malpractice if the Sixers threw him out there it would it would lead to injury but the other side is he hasn't played um in my in my opinion just looking at this situation clearly this is where Joel Embiid feels like he needs to be in order to be healthy come playoff time and let's see that's when he needs to be healthy that's when the Sixers need him to be healthy but there is a flip side to all this and that's the league's perspective and everyone and everyone that inhabits the league office yeah because he's big star he's big star he's a United States American gold medalist former former league MVP all NBA player gold medalist he is one of the elite names in the NBA he's one of the elite names in the NBA. He's one of the elite players in the NBA,
Starting point is 01:24:06 a guy that obviously fans want to see. Godspeed, Embiid. Like to see you out there. Love to see you out there. We want to see Joel Embiid healthy come playoff time, though, right? Like, we want to see MPG and Maxie. I don't know about BC. BC might be ready for the challenge, though.
Starting point is 01:24:21 BC thinks the Celtics are just going to stomp everybody. No, he doesn't know about these Pacers who are getting hot. The Pacers that the Celtics swept last year? We'll see you on Wednesday night. We'll see you on Wednesday night, but last night, Pacers obviously had a situation. AJ, if you would like to ask Shams a question, pal.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Shams, yeah, the former Duke star Paulo Banchero, what, he goes for 50. Are we looking at another face of the league here, and is this going to continue on this hot streak? Paulo Banchero, what, he goes for 50. Are we looking at another face of the league here, and is this going to continue on this hot streak? Paulo Banchero is 1,000% one of the young faces of the NBA. I mean, this guy is an all-around star. He became the youngest player since LeBron James to have this stat line,
Starting point is 01:24:58 50 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists. What he was able to do last night i mean he is a star right now he's on the rise and i think when you think about his all-around game uh he's one of the best players in the nba when you think about the forward forward position um and and i think when you think about orlando that uh banquero franz wagner jalen sun they just gave 150.5 million contract extension to franz w Wagner's on the max deal. This is Orlando we're talking about. Paulo Banqueiro is the next player that they're going to have to shell a lot of money out to very, very soon.
Starting point is 01:25:34 He is their face. He's their cornerstone. And he's certainly one of the young faces of the NBA. Banqueiro, you're saying multiple times trying to tell us it's not Boncaro, I do believe, which we appreciate. Congrats to Paulo on having a hell of a night. Only 12 in the second half, I think. Okay, just locked out. I got to push him more.
Starting point is 01:25:51 I feel like we won't hear enough about him. Number one pick. Orlando, right? That's probably me. But damn, he's been good since he stepped foot in his league. Sweet name. What was it? They called him Pat Mahomes at that FG1 race?
Starting point is 01:26:04 Yeah. I think last night was the most famous he's been since they mistook him for Pat Mahomes. Way to go, Paula. Yeah, Paula. Hey, Paula. Speaking of faces of the NBA, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Sean, I'm just curious. What has the reaction around the NBA been to the Starting Five documentary?
Starting point is 01:26:21 Because watching that, we loved the quarterback documentary on netflix and i think you know obviously diehard basketball fans will love it but i think even casual fans like the access you get from that is incredible what has been the reaction and are more guys like looking to maybe potentially do that yeah i mean when i talk to teams they're they're certainly watching people are certainly watching because you are getting this behind-the-scenes look. You see Ant Edwards leaving a game, and he has a kid, and his girl is going into labor. You have Jimmy Butler. They showed some pretty emotional scenes where he's dealing with his sick father
Starting point is 01:27:00 who ended up passing away. You have all these behind-the-scenes footages, Jason Tatum, the behind-the-scenes of him winning a championship, and then LeBron James, we don't usually see him in this documentary format. So people are certainly watching, but Pat, guys, Ty, I actually have news for you guys. So we know
Starting point is 01:27:18 the Season 1 cast. It was LeBron James, Jason Tatum, Anthony Edwards, DeMontis Sabonis, Jimmy Butler. The Season 2 cast, I do have. I have it confirmed for you guys. Okay. Starting five, season two, Netflix. Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 01:27:34 What? James Harden. Whoa. Shade Gilgis Alexander. Oh. Yes. BC's guy, Jalen Brown. Number four.
Starting point is 01:27:47 And number five. This is the one that I know is going to get the Thunderdome amped up and ready to go. Tyrese Halliburton. Let's go. Not Luca Barney. He's the final member of the starting five on Netflix season two. They are taping. Again, this is produced by LeBron James' company, Spring Hill,
Starting point is 01:28:05 Barack Obama's company, Higher Ground, and Peyton manning's company omaha productions they are leading the productions of this show for netflix and that is the starting five we i don't know if we've ever seen kevin durant in this space or james harden two very private players and people and now we got jalen brown in the mix she goes alexander having his come out party and uh halliburton a lot of a lot of attention for tyrese halliburton in indy uh he was on the olympic team now he's on starting five on netflix season two listen if i can get to learn about the tarantula off the court i'm in james harden yeah i'd like to know a little bit more about because whenever he walked out of that hotel with a little baby, I believe, and they ran into that paparazzi,
Starting point is 01:28:48 and he had the same look on his face that I have a couple times when I've walked out of potential meetings or something like that and didn't expect people to be there in the state of mind that I was, became a big fan. Tyrese Halliburton, electrifying. Like, he's a wrestling fan, so obviously he has an entertaining personality. And then Jalen Brown. What are you mad about? Why'd you thumbs down?
Starting point is 01:29:08 No, no. I'm pumped about it very much. We just got Tatum as well. It's kind of like, hey, I don't want to force feed everyone the Celtics. I think Jalen Brown's probably... Who's going to be more entertaining is what I want to know. Who's going to be the more entertaining one? Jalen Brown or Tatum?
Starting point is 01:29:23 Yeah, James Harden. Between those two? Are they following him in the offseason too or just regular season? They just started taping the start to season. I think James Harden basketball. Season up until the end of the season. Oh, you're saying James Harden doesn't know if it's offseason? No, that's 365, brother. Make sure you're with him when they got a road trip in Houston.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. James. Definitely. James Harden is the one I'm most intrigued about. I would like that. Now, the Ranchula, given some – like I've heard when we went down to Texas for the football team, I went over to the basketball facility that I think he donated like a massive piece of it to.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Talked to the equipment manager down there, and they talked about some of the workouts that Kevin Durant does. And it's not like how many made threes it's like the sound of the net with the ball going through it in a row like i want to hear that pop like 50 straight times and if he gets like 40 straight stops if it's like 41 there's like a little clank of it's like started again like his work ethic i guess is just absurd i assume everybody is that assume everybody is. That's a professional athlete. You would think. You would hope. Off the court, too. His business moves.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Yeah, he's got to be a billionaire close to it with everything he's got going on. Thank you for allowing the access, Mr. KD and James Harden. Hopefully they show how SGA puts together his Instagram captions because that's another big thing. He does these sick raps on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Like Cam Newton? No, way cooler. I don't know. He's got his own language. If you pull up, so does SGA. And they come in the form of bars. Well, yes, Canadian. They have their own language.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Are we going to get the behind the scenes of when the shout out to 50 Cent was taped? Or is that going to 50 Cent was taped? Is that going to be part of this? Happy birthday, Fifth. Is that what you're talking about? Happy birthday, Fifth? There's a few videos out there. I don't know which one. We're going to get a lot of behind the scenes. We're going to get a lot of behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Big Puma deal. Shout out to 50 Cent. Indie's popping right now. Duh. Yeah, jungle. Yeah, bub it is uh all right let's talk uh congrats to netflix have another season that would be interesting too because i think the names are what drive the interest those are massive names can't wait to watch it congrats all parties can't wait to learn ten digs has a question about a big name yeah shams another massive name uh steph went down with a lower body. What's the update on Steph?
Starting point is 01:31:47 When's he going to be back? Is it serious? What are we dealing with? Yeah, this body part is the ankle slash foot. It's called the peroneal strain. Essentially a foot-ankle issue around his ankle, around his foot. Kind of a tendon situation. He's dealing with some swelling. He's dealing with pain. And so he's got to manage that, get that mobility back in that ankle, around his foot, kind of a tendon situation. He's dealing with some swelling,
Starting point is 01:32:05 he's dealing with pain. And so he's got to manage that, get that mobility back in that ankle foot. He's going to be reevaluated on Friday. But around him, the sense is this could be an injury that goes about a week. And that would put him at early next week, you know, maybe up to two weeks. That's the sense around the injury itself. But the Warriors and Stephen Curry, they're just taking this day by day. They want to see how he feels, how he's managing that swelling. And they're going to be cautious. It's still very early in the season. You don't want to rush Stephen Curry back on the floor. They have a five-game road trip that they're going to start this weekend from November 2 to November 10. And once that period starts and is underway,
Starting point is 01:32:46 you don't really want to rush him out there for a one-game or two-game stint. You want him to get right early in the year. He is dealing with some pain and some swelling. Once that subsides, we'll see Stephen Curry return. But the good news is there was nothing major here. There was no major damage to that ankle or that foot, just something he does have to manage over the next few days, week or so. Okay, I think we went down briefly there on ESPN.
Starting point is 01:33:08 We remain live on YouTube. We had a little bit of a power surge because what you were talking about was so damn great, Sean. We need you talking more, pal. You sent a power surge through the Thunderdome, I do believe. And ESPN rack went down.
Starting point is 01:33:21 It popped back up. We are live. That is good news, but we certainly are now live in a commercial I think they went to. We remain live on YouTube, which is obviously... How does that work? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Well, the way it's set up, actually, you see there's a feed here and then there's a feed there. And then there's multiple feeds there. And then they have their thing and then we have our thing. And then our thing and their thing sometimes don't dance, especially when a power surge comes through named sham sharoni and it breaks it apart so hopefully they're able to re-bet redo it shams too much power too much power out of you and for steph curry uh can't wait to see him back nba season gonna be great it feels like right is there gonna be moves or do you think this is gonna be a season where a lot of big time players are gonna end up changing teams or no i mean there are players that teams have their eye on, right?
Starting point is 01:34:05 When you think about two players that could become free agents this offseason, that's Brandon Ingram, that's Jimmy Butler. Where are their futures at? Ingram has this season left on his deal. He's going to be a free agent potentially. He did not extend with the Pelicans. What does that leave for his future? Right now he's in New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:34:21 They want to see how him, DeJounte Murray, Zion Williamson, and that team, CJ McCollullum how that team looks this year before they make any judgments and on the other side jimmy butler he's got a player option for next season and any player going into the last year of his deal with a player option you're either going to do an extension which he's not going to do as of right now in miami or you it's going to work it's going to work out and then you just go into free agency or if it doesn't work out uh could they look for a move so those those dominoes all all will see where they land over the next few months um and then there's going to be other players that pop up but definitely as far as the trade market those are two names we we just have
Starting point is 01:35:00 to keep an eye on over the course of the season. Hell yeah, we can't thank you enough. How are you enjoying your time as senior NBA insider, pal? Figuring it all out. You know, but one thing I know is I can always come on here and we can break some bread and have some conversation. We appreciate you making time for us. We appreciate you making time for us. We know the schedule
Starting point is 01:35:20 is hectic during the NBA season. The fact that you're still able to join us while being a part of the ESPN NBA crew, we're very thankful for. Go ahead, comment. Yeah, Shams, any update on the D. Wade statue? Are they going to tear that thing down and build a new one? I think Dwayne Wade was very, very involved with the statue,
Starting point is 01:35:40 and I don't think that they're going to do anything with it. I think he was very involved. I think both sides signed off on it, and I think that's where they're going to do anything with it. I think he was very involved. I think both sides signed off on it, and I think that's where they're going to move forward with, is that statue. But, you know, I think it's interesting. When you look at it, does it look exactly like him? Of course not.
Starting point is 01:35:54 But, like, this is a statue of five, 10, 15 years. I mean, if you look close. Like, in five, 10, 15 years, it's going to blend. Oh, they did 50-year-old due age. Yeah, so this is for the future. It'll blend in. Got it. It was a future skull.
Starting point is 01:36:09 No, but it'll just blend in. It'll just be nice. And you'll see statues are meant to age. As far as you look at it 20, 30, 40 years from now, this is going to be something that we're going to see. That's the thing is statues don't age. They don't. That's salt water in the air? Yeah. Oh, sure. So they're not going to power something that we're going to see. That's the thing. Statues don't age. That's salt water in the air. Oh, Sean.
Starting point is 01:36:26 They're not going to power wash this thing? They're not going to power wash the dust off of this thing? Anyways, if you look closely, you can see it in the eyes. It looks like D-Wade. If you look a little closer. Yeah, he's got a jersey on. That's his jersey.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I've seen a whole picture. I've seen him put this, too. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that represents a moment in time. Yeah, and I saw him on today's show. They had a one-on-one interview. That's right. He said, bring babies out of the hospital, bring them a statue.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Get engaged, right in front of the statue. Get married, right in front of the statue. I want this to be a place of celebration because that's what the Miami Heat, you know, kind of. Shout-out to D-Wade. D-B. Shout-out to D-Wade. D-B. Shout out to D-Wade. Hell, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Flags. Of course. What's our guy, man? Best player in the world in 2006. Obviously, Heedles, part of the Heedles. One of the favorite athletes I grew up watching. So, shout out to three for sure. Hey, way to go, Dwayne.
Starting point is 01:37:16 You deserve it. He's happy about the statue. He talked about it since. Him and his boy didn't look too happy when they first unveiled it. That was a private conversation between their eyes. Oh, okay. Well, that's the only thing that really looks like him is the eyes of the statue. But moving forward, we think that he will grow into looking more like it,
Starting point is 01:37:32 which is why statues are forever. Exactly. We appreciate you. Shams, you're the man. Appreciate y'all. Ladies and gentlemen, Shams Ramalia. Yay! Okay, we have some news out of the NFL.
Starting point is 01:37:44 First, in the Houston Texans organization, it is official. Stephon Diggs suffered a season-ending knee injury. Now, it was a non-contact injury. Anytime you hear that, obviously you know something bad probably happened. Very rarely is it like, oh, it was something minor when it was a non-contact injury being kind of reported. So, Stephon Diggs, Godspeed on recovery. That is not cool. Obviously, they make a big move, bring Stephon Diggs into Houston,
Starting point is 01:38:10 force C.J. Stroud to have another weapon. Nico Collins gets hurt early in the season. They've had a lot of guys banged up. Now, Stephon Diggs out for the rest of the year. I thought this Texans team could go and run with the way they were built. Losing Stephon Diggs is a big blow. That is a big blow, A.J. Yeah, it's obviously huge. You can't replace a guy like Stephon Diggs. But big blow. That is a big blow, AJ. Yeah, it's obviously huge.
Starting point is 01:38:25 You can't replace a guy like Stephon Diggs. But, yeah, you know, the NFL, next man up. Someone's going to have to step up and make plays. And, you know, a little bit more even on the quarterback knows, hey, here we go. I got to figure this thing out without my superstar receiver. Yeah, the trade deadline is still a week away. Yeah, it is. You think Houston tries to make a move here?
Starting point is 01:38:43 Do you think Johnson is available? You think they try to make a play? What are your thoughts? I can see it. Why not? You know, you got Joe Mix, who's healthy, who's running the hell out of the ball. Obviously, you got C.J. Stroud. Why not go all in, strike where the iron's hot, try to go on the run here?
Starting point is 01:38:56 Lose to Stephon. He's huge, obviously, on the field. But I would imagine that locker room as well always brings a bunch of emotion, plays hard. And personally, I think he was on pretty much a contract year or two. Yeah, one year deal. So I absolutely hate that for Stephon. So Godspeed to his recovery.
Starting point is 01:39:10 As someone who watched a lot of Deontay, now he's not Stephon Diggs, but he is that type of receiver that runs incredible routes. He's not the speed guy that's going to take it over the top, but he can get over the top. He's very similar to Stephon Diggs in how they play. So it would be a good fit. Casario has made moves. Casario's not scared to make moves.
Starting point is 01:39:28 I think that's just how he's going to be. It's not even like we're in a window because C.J. Stroud's young and he's good. Rookie contract on our quarterback, he's very good. But I think that's going to be how Casario runs a team. I think he's just like Bean, I think they're going to be like we are going to try to make our team better, just like Veach has been. I mean, remember, Veach and Andy
Starting point is 01:39:44 Reed made the decision to move on from Alex Smith after an homeless MVP here for Patrick Mahomes, and then they bring in weapons. I'm excited to see how Casario handles this situation. We are trying to connect currently. Oh, never mind. Schefter, we're trying to call Schefter and say, like, hey, are they going to look for a trade now? Well, obviously, Godspeed was the fun digs.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Oh, now he's finding his spot in his house. I know they want him. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, ladies and gentlemen Stephon Diggs. Now he's finding his spot in his house. I know they want him. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Schefter! Schefter, we appreciate you answering here. The Stephon Diggs news out of Houston is obviously a bummer if you're a Texans fan and a football fan as a whole. When it was reported as a non-contact injury, we assumed the worst.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Now it has come out to be true. Does this mean the Texans are going to try to make a move before trade deadline day, November 5th,th wide receiver how do you see this working out well first of all you hope stefan digs is okay and i don't know that i've heard the texans linked to very many wide receivers i think they still could nico collins is going to be on ir for another week they still have tank dell they still have robert woods they still have john mechi they still have Tankdale they still have Robert Woods they still have John Mechie they still have other wide receivers but you obviously lose a big-time weapon in Stefan Diggs who was in the last year of his contract you hope he gets well by the time he becomes a free agent but obviously a big blow for him having the torn ACL and the Texans again I haven't heard them linked
Starting point is 01:41:00 we we kind of knew that this was what it was you're just waiting for somebody to confirm that he was going to be out for the year and D'Amico Ryan's told reporters what five ten minutes ago that he tore his ACL he's out for the year yeah you said uh some troubling signs here not a lot of responses whenever we're asking how the injury is which is very standard as people respond go we think it's going to be better we're getting tests or whatever instead you kind of got ghosted in that and you said that's a troubling sign yesterday. That comes to fruition today. Godspeed, Stephon.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Godspeed. Godspeed, Stephon Diggs. Now, you broke some other news as well. Indianapolis Colts are going with a quarterback change. Joe Flacco will be starting this weekend instead of Anthony Richardson. This comes fresh off a day of every person that's been involved with the NFL saying that a quarterback can't tap out. That's just not how it works. You can maybe if you're strained or injured, but just to say you're out of breath
Starting point is 01:41:55 and to tap out of a game, that is obviously something you're not looking for in a guy to lead a program in a franchise. They've talked about a lot of his stats. I think Anthony Richardson is a very good football player at times, but he is young. He's going to make mistakes. There's been drops too, so his completion percentage, which has been talked about a lot ad nauseum as being a potential historically NFL bad completion percentage. I think there's some more to context to that story, but ultimately, why do you think this decision was made to go to Joe Flacco and what are you hearing from the Colts organization who I am uh not talking to because um I don't want to know and what I said yesterday I think they're you know who knows how they took it and how they heard it because it's first time I've ever said something like that about the Indianapolis Colts Colts fans are pissed
Starting point is 01:42:40 off at me for even saying it now Joe Fl Flacco's a quarterback. What are you hearing from the building, Shefty? You know what the amazing part about this is, is this morning I got a call that this was happening. And I reached out to a couple of people to confirm. And I spoke to some people on other teams. And when I said, hey, my sense is that they're benching Anthony Richardson, the reaction I got from some very smart people was like of course they're benching him like it wasn't even an option okay that I mean
Starting point is 01:43:14 it was I couldn't believe how strong people were and so when I heard that I'm like okay this is happening this is happening and you know you're waiting for confirmation. They met as an organization this morning to go over it. They obviously broke up those meetings. My understanding is that they've informed each quarterback and now the move has been made. And it's a seismic move on a lot of levels because you're benching the former third overall pick, who now becomes the second quarterback in that draft class to be benched, Bryce Young, number one overall pick, now Anthony Richardson. And yes, Pat, I do think it has to do with the tap out. Now, I don't know that.
Starting point is 01:43:55 We'll get further comments. Oh, boy. Okay, we're going to – oh, boy. Okay. Here we go, Lions. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Here we go, Lions. That didn't sound good
Starting point is 01:44:05 so i think it's a case there um what what hold on let's not worry about joe flack or anything oh boy oh boy what did something just go no something just happened in your life something just happened what happened i'm about to get a flu shot and they're ready for me. Oh, that's what it is? Oh, boy. That's what it is. Bullshit, Shefty. You're a bad liar, Shefty. What was the old one?
Starting point is 01:44:37 You know what? Anthony Richardson, you learned something like that. Hey, as I said, I got something stuck in my contact lens. Oh, you lied. You're a bad liar. What is the old boy? That sounded lens. Oh, you lied. What is it? Oh, boy, that sounded bad. Oh, boy, it sounded bad. That sounded very serious there. What happened?
Starting point is 01:44:52 Again, I'm talking to you guys. I can't, I'm kind of, you know. Scroll up. It's easy. Confirm it. Hit the bottom of the phone. Move your thumb up to the top of the phone. Okay, so that'll move the FaceTime up out of the way.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Then there's a messages thing Just hit that And I think at the top It'll be Read it out loud Hey, again Oh, I see Massive stories You know what it is?
Starting point is 01:45:18 The Colts benched your quarterback, Pat That's a big deal That's a big deal Oh, boy Ladies and gentlemen We'll keep our eye on Adam Schefter's Twitter account To see what happens Oh, Pat Oh, Pat. That's a big deal. Oh, boy. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll keep our eye on Adam Schefter's Twitter account to see what happens. Oh, Pat. Oh, Pat.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yeah, Jeff Dean. What was that? Oh, boy. Oh, God. Oh, boy. What happened? That could have been something like at his house. That could have been something. But he had to see it in the preview of a text, right? It had to already hit.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Notification pops up. Person and then what? First six words, seven words? That looked like a fire. A coach. That's what it felt like. It didn't seem like good news. Like a random firing or somebody.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Tepper burned down that restaurant. No. Tepper's doing good for Western Carolina. Tepper burned down that restaurant. No. Tepper's doing good for Western Carolina. He never did. Tepper's doing good. We've got to remember that. He did that. We can't.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Are most teams off today? Tuesdays, yeah. Jets are practicing, though. Jets Thursday night football. Yeah. This is the day. Oh, boy. Which is why we didn't have Aaron on today.
Starting point is 01:46:20 They're working right now. This is a work day. They get to Houston Texans on Thursday night. News about Stephon Diggs comes out like 10 minutes before Schefter breaks that news just within the last 20 minutes. So maybe there's a media. Maybe Jets are talking to media.
Starting point is 01:46:35 The Diggs thing now, we were talking about the line for the game on Thursday night. That makes a lot more sense why the Texans are underdogs. Yeah, Jets favored. They probably knew. Isn't that crazy? Jets favored against Houston Texans with underdogs. Yeah, Jets favored. They probably knew. Isn't that crazy? Jets favored against Houston Texans with everything that's going on. I mean, this Thursday night is exactly what the Jets need.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Just get back on the field, play, hopefully get a win. But, I mean, that is wild to get favored by. What do you think the old boy – we can't stay on it forever, okay? We just watched after Twitter. Tough not to. How about him going, oh, Pat. Yeah, how he said it. That was awesome. boy what we can't we can't stay on it forever okay we just watched after twitter tough not how about him going oh pat yeah how he said it that was awesome oh boy oh boy oh boy i'm like you got it is there an elephant outside your car ready to smash you potentially then he just oh it's flu shot it's like well that shot i think is okay all right anyways the uh the you talk about firing or whatever the case is i don't view that as the move that they did with Anthony Richardson as a firing.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I believe this is a, hey, he's really young. He's been really young. He made an error in a game by making a decision to think it was okay to leave the field as a quarterback. It's supposed to lead a team into a very violent sport. It's a tough guy sport. That's what football is. Quarterback position has to be the face of that.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Maybe this is just a, okay, learning lesson. Now let's have you watch Joe again. Like let's kind of, maybe we rolled out too early. We're not there yet. Maybe we'll be able to visit this in the future. I still assume that Shane and Chris and Jim Irsay and all the powers that be think that Anthony Richardson could become
Starting point is 01:48:05 a great NFL quarterback. It worked with Jordan Love. He sat for three years. Patrick Mahomes sat for one full year behind Alex Smith in the building. He was in the building watching Alex Smith, watching how it played, playing in practice against the defense. Anthony Richardson, we don't even know if he was in a building last year because he got injured week five. We don't even know if he had a chance to even see what an NFL season season is like did he get a chance to watch garter minshu made the pro bowl last year got one play away from afc south championship home playoff game it's like did he even get a chance to experience anything of what life in the nfl is or what an nfl quarterback is last year or did that all get taken away because the shoulder surgery i'm thinking the latter i'm
Starting point is 01:48:42 thinking this year maybe getting a chance to realize what it is like to be an NFL quarterback, what it means to be an NFL quarterback, how you're allowed to operate as an NFL quarterback, and Joe Flacco being the guy you learned from, I think that's not a bad thing. I think this is a good thing, especially if it becomes a learning moment for Anthony Richardson in the future. Yeah, I said it a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:48:59 Him being benched or putting Joe in there, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for him. It's a learning experience. Definitely not you know for the organization for the team you want ideally for the young quarterback you drafted high to develop become the face of your franchise become an all-time great 10 15 years win a couple super bowl championships but how it is isn't necessarily always connected to how it starts so for him you got a guy like joe flacco who can play who can win. And this is a move, I think, for the locker room.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Because the locker room, you see, obviously you're talking about what people are talking about on TVs and microphones. But that locker room, like, you have conversation. Like, immediately. Every player that had a microphone in front of them yesterday said the same thing. Immediately. Like, it's something you haven't seen. So it is a learning.
Starting point is 01:49:42 It's going to be a learning spot for him, for sure. And you hope he goes on to grow. But that locker room you have a team you talk about all the time you paid a bunch of good players in that locker room this isn't max crosby anytime he speaks he's like hey i want to be here i want to win i'm not here and interested in a rebuild it's a week to week year-to-year league for these players so it's a big move once again not ideal and you got to know everybody's on the same page from ownership on down when you come when you bench you know your your top four picks so it's not it wasn't just that play it was also the low completion percentage and i don't think the film looked great he wasn't protected under pressure i think six percent of the time but week going out on sunday joe flacco gives this team the
Starting point is 01:50:20 best chance to win now that's just my opinion they made the decision grows and, once again, goes on to be a great quarterback, but I think it was the better move for the coach right now. Yeah, I think you just take everything into account. Yesterday obviously didn't help, or Sunday didn't help, and then the fallout from it. But you mentioned they paid all these guys. Like, this could be a playoff team. Like, they're good enough to make the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:50:40 and Joe Flacco being in there, they've looked better than they have with Anthony Richardson in there. He gives them the best chance to win, and you can't really be in a position. We're still early in the season. It's not week 15, you're eliminated from the playoffs. Okay, let's put the young guy in and let him kind of get a bunch of reps. It's like we need to go right now, and Flacco gives them the best chance to go right now.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Now long-term, there's going to be people that are going to look back and say you could have given Anthony Richardson more reps with that team. It's like, this team is – what years are we trying to win? What years are we not trying to win? Just so I know when we're trying to win, when we're not trying to win. When one position is not ready, but everybody else is ready, is that the years we're not trying to win? But then when that – what do these contracts look like?
Starting point is 01:51:20 It's like this team was – The dig situation now, too... They had to tell him. You're still the future. I'm sure they told him, hey, your career's not over in Indy. We still expect you to be our guy. I hope so. These Colts fans were mad at me yesterday for not defending them, and it's like we were just pointing out how everybody in
Starting point is 01:51:37 football feels about it. Here we are. Legit. And now you see all the teams. Yeah, exactly. And they have more invested than any of us. Still believe in AR long-term. And now this is, yeah, exactly. And they have more invested than any of us. Exactly. Still believe in AR long-term. Good chance to learn, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:49 We'll continue to roll on YouTube and ESPN+. We'll see you tomorrow. Wow, got that in there. Beautiful. What the hell was Shefty talking about? Has he not done anything yet? Oh, boy. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:58 I'm going to call him. Maybe I lied to him until we're not on air. Does he do that for every kind of news he breaks? Does he have that reaction? I don't know. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I'm about to bust.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Hey, we're off air. We're off air. What was it? That'd be so terrible. Yeah. I'm not going to do that. It's me, you. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:52:17 I'm not going to do that. Hey, we're still on air. We are still on air. And I'm still driving. Well, hey, listen. Are you going to break that oh boy news today? Should we be on the lookout for something? I'm trying.
Starting point is 01:52:31 I'm waiting, but it's not ready yet. But it's going to happen. Okay, so there's oh boy news happening at some point today. We'll see. I don't know. You never know with this. Oh boy, this guy stinks. What did you just get to?
Starting point is 01:52:45 You said, oh, boy. I mean, that was a big reaction. Twice. Twice. Well, listen. Oh, boys. It's a busy league. There's a lot of stuff going on. Oh, boys. And that's what I got for you right now. Oh, boys. Oh, boys. Easter egg. Oh, Easter egg. Yeah. Where were you last?
Starting point is 01:53:02 Where were you last week? All right. It's okay, Shafty. I'm done with him. Where was I last week? All right. Okay, Shafty. I'm done with him. Where was I last week? Is he talking about Devontae? Oh, yeah. Well.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Let him to the water. Let him to the water. Oh, boy. Shafty needs to do more eyeball emoji tweets. It's got to be a big deal, though. It's got to be something big. It can't be the old catfish. It's got to be a big deal, though. It's got to be something big. It can't be the old, can't be catfish. Yeah, it's not a flu shot.
Starting point is 01:53:29 I mean, yeah. It's got to be bigger than a benching, too. Yeah, because he was talking about the benching and immediately stops. Who cares? It wouldn't be an injury. There's no way it's an injury, is it? It's a big trade for a fire coach. It has to be.
Starting point is 01:53:39 That's what I'm thinking. Fire coach. Fire coach would be, who could get fired? Salah got fired on Tuesday, right? He said. But that was. He said. What about the Gi right? He said, what team? He said boys.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Yeah, oh, boys. Cowboys. Oh, no, he did say boys. Oh, maybe that was Slip, one of those. Yeah, Brody and Slip. Jerry Jones fired those two radio guys. That's huge. I hope not. Listen, you know how these fucking things go?
Starting point is 01:54:03 I don't know if anybody told you. I sent in the questions. They are approved. You know how these fucking things go? I don't know if anybody told you. I send in the questions. They are approved. You're welcome. You ask them. I get the fuck on my way. We don't need you guys thinking over there. You put those headphones on.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Get in front of a microphone. You fucking say what we talked about. That's it. I can get some new ones in here. I'm not joking. Oh, it's funny? I'm not joking. I'll fucking shut down the whole goddamn radio station.
Starting point is 01:54:32 You guys know how much you're worth right now? Nothing. Radio. Fucking nothing. Dallas, better than most places. Pittsburgh, better than most places. I'll shut it down, and it'll just be 24-7 Jerry Jones clips. Is that what you want?
Starting point is 01:54:44 Yeah. I'll do this fucking show. Cowboys are in an interesting spot, bro. Yeah. They keep losing games. It's not a good spot. Yeah, their schedule is very difficult moving forward. And it's all on private.
Starting point is 01:54:53 We're going to watch it. We're going to see them all. And we're going to watch all of it. Might be cooked. Every decision Mike McCarthy makes, we see it. Magnified. And then you got a commentator, either tom brady the goat on it or somebody else saying is it that i don't think you should not a good choice well tom's not allowed to do
Starting point is 01:55:11 that oh yeah because he's not he can't criticize i think he's done a good job i i do wonder like 10 years in what it's going to be like when he can't be around the building and he's kind of removed from the game you know because he's been in the building for 20-plus years now. But what about 10 years from now? Will he be able to? He'll still be watching it, you know, watching film, watching how a game evolves. And, you know, as we don't – I mean, certain things change,
Starting point is 01:55:35 but a lot of things, you know, remain pretty much the same. Same shit, different day. Are you walking, tackling? Yep. Throwing? Catching? All right. Kicking?
Starting point is 01:55:44 Fundamentals? Tapping out? Clock management? Not anymore. You don't see that anymore. N. Throwing. Catching. Kicking. Fundamentals. Tapping out. Clock manager. You don't see that anymore. Nuh-uh. We had never seen it before. I do wonder if Roger Goodell and the football powers that be called over. Like, hey, we can't have that become a precedent at the quarterback position.
Starting point is 01:56:01 We're paying $60 million to these quarterbacks. There has to be some things that have to remain. at the quarterback position we're paying 60 million dollars to these quarterbacks okay there has to be some things that have to remain if these quarterbacks want to tap out you're gonna have to bench them and that's just how it is for the good of football i mean i wonder how much jim mercy jim mercy for former power lifter remember that people forget former like bodybuilder power lifter that people forget former like bodybuilder power lifter strives himself zone i was in the locker room picking up jocks and socks and everything like that and then his guy is the guy that's like i'm too tired think about like he gets very passionate during the games i would like to know what his first reaction was whenever he heard that no he's obviously had a full-on
Starting point is 01:56:43 rethought and how he will say it and deliver. But his first reaction, I assume, was like, what are we doing? Holy fuck. Bro, this can't. Once again, to all those Colts fans that were very mad at me, very mad at me yesterday,
Starting point is 01:56:55 it's like this is a part of football I think you all just learned. They'll probably still be mad at you. They'll probably blame you for being benched, actually. Good. If I got that much power, then I do know ball. So you should listen to what I'm saying. You know, if the Colts are listening to what I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:57:10 then maybe you should take me a little bit more serious when I'm talking. But they don't, and they are not. So I'm just pointing out something that maybe you didn't know because you didn't play ball. This is just the reality of the situation. And we said this earlier, and I don't know if you were on, AJ, or not. I think it was when you first got on, but like Steelers quarterback, Eagles quarterback,
Starting point is 01:57:28 like imagine any of those cities' quarterbacks doing that and the reaction, what it would be. Imagine what it would be. It would be insanity. Pittsburgh. Can you imagine the Pittsburgh reaction? They would boycott the stadium. They would potentially boycott the field the next time.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Mike Tomlin needs to come out and say something. This is a Mike Tomlin issue. His culture. Look at his culture. Oh my God. I can't even wrap my head around it. That's not a thing. Like high school. No. Even like high school.
Starting point is 01:57:58 If your high school quarterback is like, hey, you need one here. If anybody taps out in high school, you're cut. You play both ways in high school. play both ways play safety, play quarterback third and goal coach, need one here run that quarterback trap with Danny and then after the game
Starting point is 01:58:14 tapping out was bad but after the game not having the awareness to know that's not okay I'm going to be real with you, I was tired I would assume the PR department once again, I do not know. Like, oh, I'm gonna be real with you. I was tired. Like, nah, bro. I would assume the PR department, once again, I do not know, but I do know the PR department.
Starting point is 01:58:29 I assume they didn't just send them out there. Probably not. Yeah, I assume there was. Definitely not. I assume there was a little bit of a, hey, here's the report, out of breath. You know, here's some answers potentially to get around it.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Okay, got it. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it 100. Yeah, lost my way. I ain't gonna keep it 100. Yeah, lost my win. I ain't going to lie to him. I ain't going to lie. Listen. You got to give him credit, I guess, for not lying. I agree.
Starting point is 01:58:52 That is. Do you? Do you? I mean, yeah, I guess. The bigger issue is that it's not the lie, you know? Like, the fact that the truth is he wanted off the field at any moment because he was just tired. It's like, I can't be the guy we run out of the tunnel behind. I can't be right. That's not the guy. And now they're not. And that's what the Colts said too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:18 But once again, learning point, pivot from this, watch Joey flack, maybe put a package in sure. Yeah. Packages. So he gets it. He's active. A part of it. Show the day to day. Here's the investment it takes to be a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:59:31 This guy's 40 years old. Been able to do it a long time. Maybe go in his back pocket. Maybe, uh, trying to figure out how you survive this, how you are an NFL quarterback for this long and have the success that you have,
Starting point is 01:59:41 you know, cause he got a hundred million dollar contract, uh, like 10 years ago. A long time ago. Okay. So if that's what you're looking for, first contract, cool. Cool, especially number four overall pick. Second contract, cooler, much cooler.
Starting point is 01:59:52 Way cooler. Third contract, what we're looking for, okay, the biggest. If you really want to change everything in your life, in every work, you're ass off. You have been given an opportunity because of how talented you are to change everything in your being forever you just got to work for it just go do it and i'll get a chance to watch joe flacco i think that's a good thing not a bad thing very good thing and i think once again in the long
Starting point is 02:00:15 term very very young and not the same but kind of in the similar vein of what's going on in pittsburgh like you got a young talented quarterback with justin fields he went out there and played, obviously, put his team in a good situation. Now you put Russ in there. Once again, ideally, from the fan standpoint, you want the younger guy who has a lot more tread on his tire. But you know Russ can definitely get in there. He's won a Super Bowl before. He's been paid.
Starting point is 02:00:37 He's been that guy, been the face of the franchise for a long time. So now you sit and learn, and it's a long, long, long, long road ahead, hopefully, for Anthony Rich. I hope so. Hopefully he takes it in stride. I hope everybody goes because this team can win. And all of a sudden, I get real excited again. You know, like the Jets had a bad situation. They fired Coach Sala. All of a sudden, Jets fans
Starting point is 02:00:56 get excited. They have another loss. They're in a bad spot. They bring in Devontae. They get excited. It's like, for Colts fans, it's like, okay, I think some people think maybe we win that game against Houston this past excited. It's like for Colts fans, it's like, okay, I think some people think maybe we win that game against Houston this past weekend. Houston's going, you know, who they are, who they think they are. If we win a couple games here and all of a sudden we've got to figure it out,
Starting point is 02:01:15 it's Colts football, baby. Jonathan Taylor looks fast again. He does. Dance, looks fantastic. He's making it amazing. I assume so. Pierce is all over the place. Pittman obviously battling through an injury. I don't even know if he's cleared. He's been cleared. Remember, he was supposed to go on IR a couple times. Yeah. He's playing his ass off. I assume so. Pierce is all over the place. Pittman, obviously, battling through an injury. I don't even know if he's cleared.
Starting point is 02:01:25 He's been cleared. Remember, he was supposed to go on IR a couple of times. He's playing his ass off. Good for him. Good for him, man. They said he was in huge pain. Back. Yeah, still.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Anyone knows, your back pain is the worst situation ever. The second you wake up, you feel it the rest of the day. And it doesn't stop. That's not something that just, like in the middle of a season. Actually, no. You never feel it. Actually, when you're sleeping, too. It affects your sleep.
Starting point is 02:01:44 It affects everything. So, in the middle of the season, he's no. Actually, when you're sleeping, too. It affects your sleep. It affects everything. So in the middle of the season, he's having to deal with something that never stops hurting. And it's not like they have it all figured out with the back either. Like, you put the thing on it, but where it's pretty...
Starting point is 02:01:53 It's hard to just fix that. So he's battling through, and it's like the defense got defo... Let's get to a break. On the other side, we got Carl Ravage because baseball's happening. Oh, yes. How's it going?
Starting point is 02:02:03 Not good. Oh, for who? Not good at all. For who? Not good at all. For who? Yeah, not good. Gone great for Shea, ain't it? Shea. Well, not really.
Starting point is 02:02:10 It's about to win a World Series. Yeah, Freddie Freeman. It's gangbusters. And the rest of that lineup, too. Fucking guys nobody's ever heard of who are just killing the Yankees. Are you okay, dude? It's a good time of year.
Starting point is 02:02:20 No, I'll be honest. Yankees are in a World Series. What the fuck? This is a good time. Yeah, no heart. You know, no fight. Oh, my God. What year. Yankees are in a World Series. What the fuck? This is a good time. No heart. No fight. Oh my god. What? The Yankees? I'm just, you know, you put
Starting point is 02:02:32 NFL is one thing. Okay? Because like you have a there's one game a week. You know? You lose that one. You don't make the playoffs. That's one thing. Do you have any idea how much fucking time and energy I've put into this baseball team this year and every year?
Starting point is 02:02:48 We're talking six fucking months watching 160 plus games to get to where they haven't been in 15 years. Where they should be damn near every year or should compete for it every year. And then to get
Starting point is 02:03:04 there and have scored the most runs in the AL leading up to it and just fucking completely choke and drop the ball and not look like the same team at all, not be competitive at all. I mean, it just fucking bums me out like you would not believe. Talk to Carl Ravitz on the other side about all that and more. Sorry, Ty. Man, geez, it's World Series. You're supposed to be happy.
Starting point is 02:03:28 I thought when Fat Joe walked out there. Fuck Fat Joe. What? Fuck that fat motherfucker. No! No! Fat Joe created a lot. Lean back.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Yeah. Lean back. Get off the fucking mound in your goddamn Timbs. I love Fat Joe. I thought he looked cool. No. Breaking news out of the NFL. Let's turn the music off.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Deontay Johnson has been traded, not to the Texans, no, no. Not to the Chiefs, no, no. To the Baltimore Ravens. This Baltimore Ravens offense. You start adding pieces to it. Oh, boy, is right. This was the old boy. It must have been.
Starting point is 02:04:07 And I think the old boy was potentially because he knows that Tone Diggs and Pittsburgh Steelers fans who have been in the market for a wide receiver for a long time are not going to be necessarily thrilled by the fact that another weapon who used to be in your team is going to the Baltimore Ravens who seemingly have a cheat code on their offense and a running back that has found a fountain of youth and a stamina that has been so dominant he scores every single game. Lamar Jackson's playing better than he's ever played.
Starting point is 02:04:33 A couple tight ends. They already have an explosive wide receiver. Bring in another gadget for that offense to cook with. Pittsburgh Steelers fan, Tone Diggs. Deontay Johnson comes back to the AFC North. How do you feel about it? At least this wide receiver we weren't allowed to be in the running for because you can't
Starting point is 02:04:52 trade a guy and then trade back for him in the same season or maybe two seasons whatever it is. I didn't know that. Yeah, you can't. We could not have got Deontay back. So at least that helps a little bit. And what also helps a Steelers fan from a Steelers perspective is the offense
Starting point is 02:05:08 wasn't their issue. They were probably the best offense. One of them would be with the Lions' best offense in the league. He doesn't play corner, so it's all right. You're talking about the Ravens, obviously. The secondary help, potentially. A lot of stats are saying that the Baltimore defense can give stuff up, and
Starting point is 02:05:24 especially late. I love it, though. I like that they're still the Baltimore defense can give stuff up, and especially late. I love it, though. But I like that they're still making moves over there. Once again, that's an organization saying, hey, we're making moves. You're the buyers or sellers at the trade deadline. We still have a week. Ravens making another big-time play. I love it for them all. I mean, it's terrible for the rest of the league
Starting point is 02:05:37 because now you've got another weapon for them, and it's not like a young guy who's trying to figure out how to play on this level. Deontay Johnson's tone just talked about him a few minutes ago. He can run all the routes. He can make contested catches. You know Zay is going to be the premier guy out there week to week. If he's healthy, Bateman is coming along, made some big plays as well, likely.
Starting point is 02:05:54 All these guys, and you talked about the big dogs in the back. So, I mean, another big weapon for them. Is that a situation where it's like, and he's performed well against them. Like they faced him two times for the last four years. Man, this guy's so fucking good. If we ever get a chance to get this guy, let's go ahead and get this guy. Somebody on a headset after Deontay Johnson makes a play.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Hey, if this guy's ever available, let's try to get him here. Then Schefter yesterday makes an announcement. Hey, he's very available for a trade, which leads to Darius Smith, I believe. The other player that Schefter announced yesterday is available to be traded. Is he heading up to Detroit? Some things require a lot of work to grow, like plants, hair, babies, or your savings. But when you run a business, you already have enough on your plate. Scotiabank's right-size savings for business account can help you grow your savings with ease.
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Starting point is 02:07:18 Football! Is obviously what we chat about most. There's been a lot of moves over the last couple hours. Deontay Johnson traded from the Carolina Panthers to the Baltimore Ravens the most recent. Congrats to all parties there. Hell yeah. Congrats to the entire AFC North.
Starting point is 02:07:34 Now, that's A.J. Hawk. The Talks and Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Whenever the hammer, Cowboys AP Tony's here. I love the Cignetti tile right in front there. Yeah, thanks for bringing one back for me, boys. As a Cignetti fan, it was something that I was desiring, that I really
Starting point is 02:07:51 needed and I had to display. Really nailed it. Really showcased how much you wanted that Cignetti towel. They have a bunch of them. Study Later, Cignetti on a Morbill Box. They got like 10 of them all season ready to go. It was fun to watch um it was kind of like a fast forward video time lapse if you will uh while you guys are doing the show on friday just watching the whole stands fill up with
Starting point is 02:08:15 like 50 000 towels it was kind of crazy also a time lapse somebody did from opening week of this iu football team there it is that's opening night opening opening day. Exactly. And that's a lot for Indiana. That's a lot for Indiana, I think, because the Cignetti excitement, potentially, and then bang! There's this past weekend. That's crazy. Yeah, it is. That's the Cignetti effect there. You talk about what Coach
Starting point is 02:08:38 Prime did out there in Boulder over the last couple years, obviously, being able to build it up in the stadium and money, investment and excitement and everything. So you know, he's doing the same exact thing down in Bloomington, Indiana. It's a beautiful thing. We're lucky to be a part of it. The towels are awesome. Nine-year NFL vet. Host of everything
Starting point is 02:08:54 DB, good D, bad D. Coming in a matter of moments. Terry Staple. Yes, sir. Sweet fit today. Very cool fit. You look very cool. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the voices of baseball. And we were supposed to have him on about 50 minutes ago, but so many things happened. Anthony Richardson obviously ends up getting benched for Joe Flacco. Stephon Diggs, it gets officialized that he tore his knee up, tore his ACL.
Starting point is 02:09:14 He's going to be out for the rest of the year in a non-contact injury. Then Deontay Johnson gets traded. So we appreciate this man for waiting patiently to talk to us about the championship of all championships in baseball. Ladies and gentlemen, Carl Ravitch. We are sorry. We are sorry, Ravi. That's 100% on us. Don't worry about it. It's on the Colts.
Starting point is 02:09:36 I mean, shit happens. That's what you do. You deal with it. It's not on the Colts. Colts made a decision. Obviously, those are big-time decisions that I'm happy I don't have to make, but certainly, I think the Colts team and fans know that they can maybe go win a championship right now. Let's talk about championships right now. World Series is happening, and Ty Schmidt, before the break, is a Yankees fan. That sounded very miserable.
Starting point is 02:10:00 And he even said, to hell with Fat Joe, I believe, is what he said. Last night, Fat Joe obviously answers Ice, is what he said. Last night, Fat Joe obviously answers Ice Cube in LA. Everybody thought it was awesome. Did we know that what was going to happen to the Yankees in New York happened to the Yankees? Or do we assume that the Yankees were going to win these ones? What's up?
Starting point is 02:10:17 He's fucking stuffing up the rubber. No, he's not. Yeah, he is. He just stepped on the rubber, digging in up there. What a, I mean. The boys love it. The boys love it. The boys are buzzing. Of course, Jazz loves not. Yeah, he is. He just stepped on the rubber, digging in up there. What a, I mean. The boys love it. The boys love it.
Starting point is 02:10:26 The boys are buzzing. Of course Jazz loves it. Why? What are you talking about? Lock in. So what is your problem? He's a good vibes guy. He was so mad, Rob.
Starting point is 02:10:37 I didn't know. Look, he's killing. Lean back. Look at him. Lean back. Joey Crack, dude, started the entire entire thing he answered Ice Cube Face of New York Did those girls know
Starting point is 02:10:50 Did they know that song Yes everybody knows Fat Joe's song Carl I don't need the negativity All we need Fat Joe Joey crack thanks for everything you've done My generation Maybe Big Joe now He does look like What's that? Maybe Big Joe now.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Yeah, he does look like he's been working out a little bit, been moving those boots. He's been running up to the mound. He's running hills. Yes. Give him the ball for game four. Let's see what he's got. Okay, so on that note,
Starting point is 02:11:16 did we assume that the Yankees were going to win this one at home? And how do we feel about the series right now, Ravi? I don't think you can make an assumption about anything other than that they're playing like crap. I mean, all of them. And we all focus on Aaron Judge and what he's done. It's not like Otani's been killing it either. They each have one hit in this series.
Starting point is 02:11:34 The supporting cast has been great. Like, with all due respect to Fat Joe, if Fat Joe showed up there and there was a backup band, it would be a little bit better. But the backup band for the Yankees hasn't shown up either. And the focus has been on Freddie Freeman and freeman and that guy right there tommy edmund every single dodger is out playing every single yankee they are better in every aspect of the game so far they pitch better they play better defense they hit the ball they run the bases they do everything
Starting point is 02:12:02 better than the yankees do so So no assumption, especially with that guy Clark Schmidt unable to find the strike zone. And that run scored right there, Pat, because Tommy Ebbin decided to steal a base with Otani up. He gets into second base. He scores that little bloop base hit by Mookie Betts. All the things that winning teams do,
Starting point is 02:12:20 the Dodgers are doing and the Yankees are. How likely is it for a team to come back being down 3-0? Is this over? It's happened once. Not good. In the World Series, I think there have been 24 examples of teams being down 0-3. Combined, they've won
Starting point is 02:12:35 three games total. Like, three overall. So, if the Yankees were to force a Game 7, they would have matched what every team in the World Series falling behind three games to none has done. Not likely, not going to happen. So, no, it's not likely at all. Okay, Ravi, Ty has some questions for you.
Starting point is 02:12:54 I will have you know what you just said is basically how he's been acting all morning as a Yankee fan. Yeah, Ravi, just curious. You mentioned it. How much of this do you hang on Aaron Judge? Obviously, everyone talks about and it's tough for me because obviously you look at his stats he's batting 91 in the world series you know he's striking out damn near not even competitive what 0.091 yeah correct uh he batted you know 322 damn near won the triple crown this year in the regular season and that's why i have
Starting point is 02:13:20 a tough time hanging this all on him because without him the Yankees win maybe 80 games and granted you know like he's just no no so bad in the postseason but you mentioned and I've been talking with my brothers about this like every single person in the Dodgers lineup especially the bottom half they have a competitive at bat every single time and it feels like the Yankees six of the nine people in their batting order are automatic outs every single time they get up. It just doesn't matter. But how much of this ultimately do you hang on Judge? Well, a bunch of it. I mean, certainly not all of it. In order for Judge to be productive, generally you need guys on in front of him. And when you compare him with Otani,
Starting point is 02:13:59 these are the two MVPs and neither has done very well in this series. But what the difference is between them, when you look at Judge, he's one for 12 with seven strikeouts. That's a problem. Freddie Freeman, who's a three hitter, is seven RBIs in this postseason. So the three hitter, the middle of the order guy, is not producing. Judge is coming off a 2024 season in which he was better than 2022. 2022, 62 homers. His postseason on batting average of 139. Not good. 2024. An OPS plus, ask all your researchers, but it's a statistic which measures your on-base plus slugging relative to the major league baseball average. He was 33% better than the next guy in baseball.
Starting point is 02:14:45 That's how great the regular season was. The next guy in baseball was Shohei Ohtani. Aaron Judge needs to, if the Yankees wanted to win the World Series, Judge had to produce. They can win a game without him, maybe two. They will not win a World Series without a productive Aaron Judge. The difference between Judge and Ohtaniani, Otani gets leadoff, and he's got a whole bunch of guys, as you mentioned, that are producing behind him.
Starting point is 02:15:14 Mookie Betts is having a massive World Series. Tommy Edmund is absolutely destroying Anthony Volpe. Volpe, 0-4 in Game 1, 0-4 Game 2, 1-4 third game. Edmund is 4-11. Volpe's 1-12. There's problems everywhere, let alone Clark Schmidt being unable to throw strikes. The Dodgers are taking advantage of runners
Starting point is 02:15:36 on base. The Yankees aren't getting runners on base, let alone not taking advantage of them. I think you mentioned it. The judge hadn't been producing in the postseason at all, so I think that's why Yankees fans were like, hey, they made it to the World Series. Eventually he'll wake up and they'll be fine.
Starting point is 02:15:52 I think that's what gave me especially some confidence going in. But another kind of two people that I think you could place blame on, I think a lot of Yankees fans are talking about Aaron Boone going to Nestor Cortez in Game 1. Because I think if the Yankees win Game 1, then it's a completely different series. And then also Cashman. Because you look at what the Yankees did at the deadline. Kopech, Edmund, Flaherty.
Starting point is 02:16:17 Three guys the Yankees could have had who needed. They went after Flaherty, didn't like his medical, backed out of that trade. He goes to the Dodgers. Same thing with Edmund and then Kopech. They needed bullpen help. Luizaga got hurt in the first week of the season. They've needed bullpen help. How much of the blame do you think those guys will shoulder?
Starting point is 02:16:38 As a Yankees fan, the thing that worries me the most is Soto's had this career year. He's looked unbelievable. If they end up not winning a World Series this year, like it's no foregone conclusion that they're going to re-sign him. So what do you think the – what do you think is going through Brian Cashman's head right now? Yeah, I think it's – you know, I think he's worried. I think when Soto hit that home run in the LCS and he kind of came out of his
Starting point is 02:17:03 luxury suite and kind of looked up and said, thank God, you know, that was a sign like, yeah, this was the value of him. Your point is really well made. Verdugo versus Teosca Hernandez, advantage Dodgers. Stroman versus Flaherty, advantage Dodgers. Yamamoto, the Yankees had a chance to get Yamamoto, $325 million. And the Pacific Ocean. Apparently that was enough to convince Brian Cashman, we've got to compete against that.
Starting point is 02:17:32 We're not going to win that battle. I think there's a whole bunch of accountability, responsibility. They haven't won a World Series since 2009. That's a problem for that team that has become so used to winning world series 27 of them so at some point you do have to wonder when does that part get shifted out and so does one man and you guys all know this in this sport one man hardly makes a difference as good as he's been you you can't rely on him you can't rely on judge but you need to depend on them as long as other people are helping out. Everybody needs to show up in baseball, it seems like. That's why Shohei and Mike Trout were in the purgatory that they were with the Angels.
Starting point is 02:18:12 Now Shohei goes to the Dodgers. First year, he's in a World Series about to win it all. Freddie Freeman, what he's doing, historic, they're saying, I guess. What is the record right now? Yeah, he's hit a home run in five consecutive World Series games because he hit two in the last two games of the 2021 series. He's tied with George Springer for five in a row. If he hits one tonight, he'll set the record for most consecutive games
Starting point is 02:18:33 with a homer in the World Series. And he's what, greatest dude on earth, too? Every interview he gives, I'm like, I love this guy, Ravi. Yeah, I mean, look, he's gone through a whole bunch of stuff with his son off the field and Guillain-Barre syndrome. It was really bad. There was a time late in this season, early in the postseason, where Freddie Freeman would have preferred to be anywhere but on a baseball field
Starting point is 02:18:54 to be with his family and be with his son, who was ailing while his wife was taking care of the kid. The kid's doing great. Kid's back home. Freeman gets those days off. Gets as much as the ankle recovered, which is critical. I think his heart recovered. I think his head recovered. I think he realized things were going to be okay.
Starting point is 02:19:12 And this is a professional hitter. We talk about professional hitters. This is a professional hitter in baseball. He's been doing it since he was a kid. He certainly has done it with the Braves. That's why this record continues. And tonight, he could break it. But Freddie Freeman doesn't strike out. You know, you talk about these
Starting point is 02:19:27 three-hole hitters. Aaron Judge, again, no homers, seven strikeouts. Freddie Freeman, three homers, seven RBIs. He feels good about the way life is off the field. He's killing it on the field. Got it, AJ. Robbie, so what happens? Do you think the Dodgers, do they close this thing
Starting point is 02:19:44 out tonight, or do they let the Yankees hang around a little bit? Do it at home. No. It's back-to-back, right? Two, three, two. Yeah, three. Yeah. They have two chances to the Dodgers to do it on the road.
Starting point is 02:19:55 Look, there's no indication this is going to be extended. The Yankees haven't hit. The bullpen concept sort of lets people think this should be an easy one for the yankees bullpens because they're so damn good right now make nothing easy for the opponent the offense until aaron judge starts to drive the ball the right center and over the wall to those bleacher creatures i would i have no reason to believe they're going to win this game and louise heel who's on the mound is a rookie starting in a World Series game in a must-win game.
Starting point is 02:20:26 He doesn't throw enough strikes. He doesn't get enough chase historically. One start against the Dodgers was okay, but there's a whole bunch of pressure on him tonight. Yeah, I think it ends tonight. Speaking of that, Ravi, do you think that, kind of just kicking it around, is there any chance? I mean, I know Gil is supposed to go tonight, and I was thinking the same thing. Like, I don't know, if you want to extend this series, I don't know if you can put him out there despite how good he's been this year.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Is there any way that they maybe turn to Cole on short rest, just thinking, like, we have to win a game tonight. They have to win, and obviously. Boone said no. I mean, I understand you've got to win tonight, but he said no, he won't do that. And, again, you run out of Cole on short rest who's compromised, and after three innings, let's just say it's 1-0 New York or 0-0, you're going to have to get Cole out of the game. This is not 10 years ago when Bumgarner came out of the bullpen and gave you five innings against the Royals to win a World Series. That's 10 years ago,
Starting point is 02:21:23 five innings out of the bullpen because he's not built like anybody else. There's no way Cole appears in this game. Okay, here's some stats from Hembo. You tell me how vital or how normal these stats are to talk about. The Dodgers have outscored the Yankees 7-1 in innings 1-3 this series. That has enabled them to dictate terms. Pitches thrown whenever leading. Dodgers, 301 pitches.
Starting point is 02:21:48 Yankees, 55. What does that mean? Obviously, early wood is good news for a team. And what does it make the other team do? For instance, in football, if you get the lead, the other team has to pass normally is kind of the goal. So your defensive ends can kind of go get it. What is the mentality of when you're in the lead early versus not in the lead, especially in a World Series game?
Starting point is 02:22:07 Well, in this case, in this World Series, every team that has gotten the lead first has won the game. Postseason, historically, you score first, you tend to be in the driver's seat. That's happened, obviously, in this series. The other thing it does, and you know this, it doesn't matter what sport you're in. Thekees the the ballpark was electric with all jokes about fat Joe the place was electric last night and the way that you unplug the electricity is you score first so when you neutralize that crowd and every time a base runner got on there was this realization like oh god I could it's not going to work and it didn't work and the Dodgers have been able to make it work. And they're creating things. So getting a lead is an enormous advantage. But again, now that you're talking about must win,
Starting point is 02:22:54 in a sense, it doesn't matter. We got to throw everybody out there, with the exception, I think, of Garrett Cole and, of course, the starter last night. The other part of this that we didn't even talk about is the idea that the starting pitching, which was supposed to be a bit of an advantage for the Yankees, has absolutely been a complete advantage for the Dodgers. Like, Walker Buehler looked like Vanderbilt Walker Buehler. He was that good. Yamamoto looked like the guy that was worth $325 million. Again, they're peaking right now
Starting point is 02:23:19 while the Yankees are playing about as poorly as they have almost all year. Obviously, the Dodgers win a World Series, you'd say any contract with Shohei and everybody's worth it. But, like, obviously this is what it's all about. And the numbers in Japan, are they still gigantic for these games? Off the charts. Look, I'm not a huge social media guy. You're about as good as anybody on that that I've ever seen.
Starting point is 02:23:42 But when Dave Roberts told me that Shohei Otani was good to go, two million people viewed that. That's Japan. I mean, two million people. That doesn't happen. So that shows you how huge he is worldwide and certainly how big it is in Japan. Yeah, they have watch parties over there.
Starting point is 02:24:00 They're going to start the Major League Baseball season in Japan next year. I need McAfee. If you're going to Dublin, you may as well season in Japan next year. I need McAfee. If you're going to Dublin, you may as well go to Japan for the start of the baseball season. I love the country of Japan. Been there before. It is very nice, very awesome. Shohei will be electrifying. Maybe we do go over there. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:24:18 Not a bad idea, especially if that gets us involved in baseball early in the season. Then obviously we'll track it. If we get Paul Skeens versus Shohei over there, I mean, consider it booked. We're on our way. We can't thank you enough. Shohei, biggest star in the game right now, obviously, in the world.
Starting point is 02:24:37 Wins World Baseball Classic, right? Yeah. Now about to win a World Series. Freddie Freeman obviously going to win the MVP if they end up winning it, but that's good for baseball, I think, as a whole. I think that's good for baseball. You agree you think everything's been good for baseball? Oh, it's killed.
Starting point is 02:24:50 The only thing that sucks for baseball right now is a 3-0 World Series and a series we all hope would go six or seven games. The other part of that, to your point, it would have been nice if they kind of just kept in their back pocket that Otani was unavailable to pitch. We could have got to a game six or seven, and maybe there was the threat that he was going to come out of the bullpen because we've seen him since the middle of the summer
Starting point is 02:25:11 throwing seeds in the bullpen. You're like, yeah, maybe, why not? Why wouldn't we want to see that? But they sold the horse out of the barn there. Well, maybe. Hold on. Yankees get hot tonight. Okay, Fat Joe, come on back.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Yeah, they start running in this entire thing. It getses get hot tonight. Okay, Fat Joe, come back. Yeah, they start running in this entire thing. It gets to 3-3. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We got to slow the momentum down. What are we going to do? Oh, mama. I need me. Oh, my life. The long arm of the law.
Starting point is 02:25:40 You know what that long arm of the law is? Shohei with Donnie coming out there. I mean, that would be electric. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, Ravi. Congrats on another great baseball season. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. You too, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:25:52 Carl and Ravi. Yeah, Carl. I don't know if you heard while that conversation was happening. We had another power surge. It sounded like two bombs went off. Yeah, I did. We don't know what is blowing up. There was a bomb sound over here.
Starting point is 02:26:04 There was another one over here. I think there was one in the back. I'm excited to learn about all of that, but with that being said, we lost our screen. We lost our screen. So we cannot do everything DB, good DB, healthy. We'll push that to tomorrow. That's a tease. Okay.
Starting point is 02:26:20 All right, tonight we got the World Series game. Correct. We got hockey tonight. Nick, is there any hockey? Yeah, a lot of hockey. Okay, and we got the World Series game. Correct. We got hockey tonight. Nick, is there any hockey? Yeah, a lot of hockey. Okay, and we got basketball happening. NBA on TNT tonight, yep. Okay.
Starting point is 02:26:31 A couple college football games as well. Okay. The Rays and Cajuns. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Former home of Billy Napier. Yeah, that's right. I'd be going back.
Starting point is 02:26:41 Who's on TNT? You know, basketball. I'm not sure. I don't know, but they're swinging a hot bat. That show. I mean, they've been swinging a hot bat for the last year. Last year, yeah. It's been, at first, one line.
Starting point is 02:26:52 What are they going to do, fire us? Oh, really? It's like. Chuck said that. Last dance. It's Mavs, T-Wolves, so Ant, Luca, and Pelicans Warriors. Okay, so we need to watch Inside the NBA. It's been really...
Starting point is 02:27:08 The clips at least have been really good. Alright, I'm a fan of the program. Can't wait to watch it. We'll be back tomorrow. We're going to figure out this power issue though. We'll let you know. It's weird. Shout out to whatever power system was rolling that kept us alive. That one's working. We need every other one to get like that one. Get on the team. And when that
Starting point is 02:27:24 happens, we'll be A-OK Nonetheless we're back tomorrow AJ you worried about Ohio State this week It sounded like you were a little worried You were kind of mumbling No I never did You heard me loud and clear I'm not worried
Starting point is 02:27:35 I mean obviously I'm excited for the boys Great opportunity I agree This is the fourth top five matchup of the year already Third Every week we get awesome matchups. Dude. College ball, bro.
Starting point is 02:27:47 It's great. Doing it. Yeah, Bama, Georgia. Ohio State, Oregon. Texas, Georgia. Now this. Fourth. Fourth top five matchup of the season.
Starting point is 02:27:56 On realignment, everything happening? The schedule. It's working. It's working. It's working. Yeah. Not that this one obviously has a big 10-game, but it is working. It is.
Starting point is 02:28:03 I don't know what the off-season conversation is going to look like this upcoming year after a college football playoff and the biggest numbers that they've had in a long time for the whole sport. Last year was all doom and gloom. It's over. Remember there was an essay that was written by somebody that said, we'll still watch, I guess. Remember?
Starting point is 02:28:21 Yeah, I do remember. I forget who it was. Who was it? Wright Thompson. I guess. Remember? I do remember. I forget who it was. Wright Thompson. Wright Thompson wrote an essay about college football. And the way he broke it down, at least how I heard it, and I don't know how everybody else heard it, but the way I heard it was like,
Starting point is 02:28:37 they're kind of taking away everything that we fucking loved about this sport, but I guess we'll still watch it. And then just moved on. I'm like, God damn, that's pretty depressing. I hope that's still watch it. And then just like moved on. I'm like, God, that's pretty depressing. I hope that's not the case. I hope they don't take away everything that everybody loves. Because what college football and the college football community has done for that sport,
Starting point is 02:28:54 all the tradition, the amount of investment and loyalty and passion in the college ball, if they did fumble that bag with the new rules, with NIL and realignment and everything, that would be one of the biggest mishaps and fuck-ups in the history of sports. Instead, it feels like passion and pageantry is still very much there. Tradition is still very much alive. Big-time matchups almost bringing them and spotlighting them even more than they ever have in the past. College ball, even though it's chaos with some of the rules and what's allowed to happen, what's not allowed to happen, hopefully that gets figured out. The quality of the product of the sport is great. So I hope we continue to ride that wave, legitimately.
Starting point is 02:29:29 I hope we continue to ride that wave, college ball. As long as the play on the field is so high level and we get these matchups, like how could you? Hopefully you can't mess that up. Yeah, but the fans are a big part of the program in college ball. Yeah, but if your teams are good, if the Blue Bloods stay the Blue Bloods and we have these teams like Indiana keep coming up and all of a sudden becoming studs, yeah, we're going to be good.
Starting point is 02:29:52 We're going to be fine. I love what Elko's doing now. Yeah, it's incredible. Colorado doing – like actually living up to it. Already bow eligible. Yeah, they could be a 12-team playoff team. Very, very much so. and actually living up to it. Already bowl eligible. Yeah, they could be a 12-team playoff team. Very, very, very much so.
Starting point is 02:30:07 Iowa State. The champions making it, like, so much hope for everybody. Is there a path to a championship here? Yes. We're still – we have a shot. As soon as that gets – it's like, all right, now we've got to politic to become – we've got to start winning games so it looks like we're at least one of the top 15. It's just like in every league, like ACC, Miami, Clemson, Pitt, SMU, they're all still alive.
Starting point is 02:30:27 Big 12 has like six teams still alive. SEC, Big 10, they all have at least four or five teams still alive. At this point in the year, that's unheard of. Alright, college ball showing up. NFL is as well. We'll be back tomorrow. We've got to figure out a big power problem. Yeah, we do. We're going to fix it. A couple of Transformers are dead, probably.
Starting point is 02:30:43 Dude, that was a loud boom. Yeah, a couple of them. It brought the boom. That's what it did. It brought the boom. Not just one, but two. Right over there. Let's go watch that clip. Jimmy Fallon in a big Oscar.
Starting point is 02:31:02 I'm excited for you guys to watch. I got to check it out. I'm excited for you guys to see the whole thing. All right, we're back tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life like our friends at Dude Vibes. Dunkin' Spice, real deal. Oh, yeah. You want your butthole to smell good and feel good?
Starting point is 02:31:16 Yeah. After you take a massive shit? Yeah. Dunkin' Spice, only available at Target. It's for the fall season. You drink a lot of coffee, aren't you? Oh, yeah. Warm coffee. Oh, yeah. ice only available at target it's for the fall season you drink a lot of coffee aren't you oh yeah warm coffee oh yeah it's got the steam coming off the top of it but you know what that's gonna do it's gonna create a steamer in it yeah like a warm beer no very different i mean warm
Starting point is 02:31:39 beer would create a steamer i think detroiters will be cursed episode oh yeah detroiters get a good show yeah it is it's i think you should leave but with like the plot a plot yeah new scene new skit let's get to the next scene next skit tim robinson's brain firing on a thousand and that's his guy that's his friend sam richardson yeah is he does he Does he have a similar... Is he writing with... I don't know how. I think they created the show together. I think he wrote for Veep too, right? Or no?
Starting point is 02:32:09 He's been in his own Veep. He was in Ted Lasso. He was in Veep. Yes. He was also in the After Party murder thing. Correct. What was that? I think it's...
Starting point is 02:32:21 Is it the After Party? I think so. On Apple TV, I think it's called After Party. Yeah. Okay. The murder thing Yeah That's a good show Yeah
Starting point is 02:32:27 First season I didn't see the second season I didn't see the second season It wasn't as good It was still pretty good I like any murder mystery I feel like I figured it out So early though
Starting point is 02:32:34 Sure They got one A new one on Netflix But it's the Zodiac It's not a Oh so we know the answer Yeah it's not a show It was that one guy
Starting point is 02:32:40 Are we catching all the killers Out there? Feels like we should Yeah I hope so Not quick enough So many cameras now That's right Everywhere Yeah how do you get away With anything? There's that one guy are we catching all the killers out there feels like yeah, I hope so So many cameras now try everywhere. Yeah, how do you get away with anything? You don't yeah? From dateline you watch dateline It's like oh everything is filmed
Starting point is 02:33:00 And your phone don't have a phone on you. That's for sure there always is If you have power which will hire All right, we're in we can figure out. Power. All right, we're in this thing together. Never forget it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. There's a GoFundMe link to help out some homeless veterans
Starting point is 02:33:12 here in Indianapolis, Indiana that Wish for Our Heroes put together. Wish for Our Heroes is a foundation that I worked with a lot here in Indiana. I don't know if it was founded here or in San Antonio, but they literally help with the day-to-day items for veterans.
Starting point is 02:33:26 I've been a part of some missions alongside of them to help out vets, whether it's just like paying for groceries or gas or heating bills or something like that. Very hands-on approach. They have assembled and pieced together a plan to help this HVAF, which is a homeless veteran shelter here in downtown Indianapolis that burnt down this past weekend. 50-plus homeless vets left without shelter heading into the winter months. So, Wish for Our Heroes enacted a GoFundMe link. And also, I believe other people around the city. I think Black Rifle Coffee has already donated $10,000. I think the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is getting involved to try to help this out, help out everything.
Starting point is 02:34:04 And I'll be matching donations up to $250,000. If you go on X, you can see the wish for our heroes. Wish, the number four, the letter R, and then heroes. They have the GoFundMe linked everywhere there. Winter month's happening. We should let our country's heroes know that we got their back, especially here in Indianapolis. If you're able. If you're not able to, look out for yourself.
Starting point is 02:34:26 Listen, this is not a, I understand completely if you're not able to. But if you are, here's a good place to potentially help out some heroes here in Indianapolis. And shout out to the Wish for Our Heroes people. They've been good people to society for a long time. I did a lot of work with them, man. It was really cool to watch them. In the weeds, we're talking like going to meet and vets, seeing vets, going through stuff, PTSD stuff. Here we go. Hey, this person can't afford their own food, but they have too much
Starting point is 02:34:53 pride to tell anybody. So their friend has to report it. Then Wish for Our Heroes has to be able to basically get in. Some people not even letting them in. You bring diapers for babies and stuff for some of these vets who are on hard times and it's like they have so much pride you're like no i'm good i'm good and it's like wish for our heroes with their credibility who's been in there sergeant they got a lot of people it's all vets that work in there and them having like those real conversations like hey it's all right like this is i was i was a part of that with them a lot and it was a life changer.
Starting point is 02:35:29 They also took me down to Camp Pendleton, and I got my ass beat in hand-to-hand combat. That was fun. Everybody laughed. Went defeated. Yeah, I didn't know what was happening. I went down to shake somebody's hand, and all of a sudden, bang, pow, pow, I'm on terrorist. Steven Seagal on you. Yeah. Bang, pow, I'm down on my head.
Starting point is 02:35:42 What the hell just happened? I didn't do anything. That's what you got to do. You never know what to have. Absolutely. And somebody else, else i thought it was ever going for a dap up nope we're fucking judo tossing can't trust anybody because what are we doing can't trust anything yeah what are we doing here yeah it wasn't yeah you gotta bring jenny with you next time you gotta bring him with you that's good shit though man matching up 250s off yeah yeah absolutely and i hope uh you know and obviously can't make everybody happy there's people who are like why why don't you just donate it's like
Starting point is 02:36:09 uh probably end up will but this is just like a call like yeah right we can kind of do this thing together to help people out and uh if you're able would certainly love you to help out our city and our vets all right let's get the hell out of here uh we're in this thing together let's never forget that especially with trade deadline one week away here. We're in this thing together. Let's never forget that. Especially with trade deadline one week away. Yeah. Legit. We're in this thing together. Okay.
Starting point is 02:36:30 Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. It's coming back.

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