The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1231 - Jeff Passan, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

On todayā€™s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about all the different trades being made leading up to the NFL trade deadline and how that changes the balance of power a...cross the league, plus they chat about last nightā€™s electric World Series game 4 that saw the Yankees survive with an 11-4 win, and a fan get ejected in the first inning after trying to remove the ball from Mookie Bettsā€™ glove in the first inning and the fire storm that has created after the fact. Joining the show to chat about the fan ejection, the World Series as a whole and his thoughts moving forward as we await game 5 tonight is ESPN Senior MLB Insider, Jeff Hassan. Later, future Hall of Famer, Houston Texans Ring of Honor member, countless Pro Bowlā€™s and All-Proā€™s, and analyst for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt joins the show to chat about his biggest takeawayā€™s from week 8 of the NFL season including TJ having another monster night on Monday Night Football, the Anthony Richardson tap out situation, why heā€™s pissed the Texans are underdogs at the Jets on Thursday Night, the Hail Mary in Washington, and everything else happening around the league. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPNā€™s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+.Ā We appreciate the hell out of all of you. Weā€™ll see you on Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our spooky humbling boom, the Thunderdome on this white Wednesday, October 30th, 2024. This program starts now. Football is the topic of discussion most days, but today there's a lot of sports happenings. That's right. Baseball took place last night. Big swing in a world series of momentum potentially that could change and alter the course of the MLB forever whoa well certainly talk to Jet Passon in about 10 minutes about that he'll know more
Starting point is 00:00:31 than we will there's been a couple trades have taken place over the last 24 hours and there is a benching that has obviously captivated the entire sports world we're lucky to do this every single day we can't thank you enough for joining Now, also here is a man who's always incredibly dressed and has had a night to sleep on a big-time trade that was made yesterday. Deontay Johnson traded from the Carolina Panthers to the Baltimore Ravens. The Baltimore Ravens now obviously on a run to a Super Bowl. Their offense is performing at an elite level, and they add another tool to their arsenal. Let's go to nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, Good D, Bad D, Darius J. Butler. Your thoughts on this trade now that you had to digest
Starting point is 00:01:08 it a little bit more? Good trade. Good trade. Obviously, we know it is a passing league. Now, the Ravens, they're built to be powerful, of course, but at some point in the game, some point in the season, Super Bowl playoff run, you're going to need too many drives, which means receivers on the field. Ravens right now
Starting point is 00:01:23 rank dead last in 11 personnel usage that's one running back one tight end obviously three wide receivers so bringing deontay johnson who made his head in the league in pittsburgh obviously um in the division probably had some good games against the ravens so bringing a guy that can separate make catches be a great move i think for the ravens down the line are they it all? I mean, if I had to pick one team right now, it would probably be the Lions, but then obviously the Chiefs, and then the Ravens are going to be right there in that conversation. I like that they're adding pieces to an offense that has already been very successful.
Starting point is 00:01:55 That's what you do whenever you're trying to chase a championship. Let's talk about another trade that took place yesterday. It was a little big guy. Yeah. It was a little big guy. You don't really see this often. Left tackle. Cam Robinson traded from the Jacksonville Jaguars to the Minnesota Vikings
Starting point is 00:02:08 right in time to take on the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday Night Football. Obviously, Cam's been part of a Jaguars team that has been an Achilles heel for the Colts team. But also, the Minnesota Vikings lose their dog, their stud. Left tackle. They make a play to replace him. Let's go to 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, host of In the Trenches. Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley.
Starting point is 00:02:29 A.Q. A.Q., how do we feel about this trade? Do big guys get traded often? No, this is rare, especially at the deadline. This is a big move for the Vikings, though. They lose Christian Derusaw, who's a top three left tackle in the league. And they get Cam Robinson, who's a former first-rounder out of Alabama. But I think it's a win on both sides because the Jacksonville Jaguars
Starting point is 00:02:47 have got to see a lot of Walker Little as their left tackle whenever Cam's been out due to suspension or injury, and they like him. So it's a win-win on both sides. So suspension came last year for Cam Robinson for performance-enhancing drugs. So this guy's trying to get better. He probably didn't know, obviously didn't know that you were going to fail a test, didn't know whatever was in whatever. But Cam Robinson's been around, played a lot of ball.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Our left tackle was able to get dropped into any offense. Yeah, the beauty about it is most terminology is the same around the league. It's just fitting it into a different system. There's going to be a few words. The good news is they've got a good offense line. They've got a good center. He'll be able to communicate to them down the league. It's just fitting it into a different system. There's going to be a few words. The good news is they got a good offense line. They got a good center. He'll be able to communicate to him down the line. They got a stud moving in at left tackle for them. Did you hear Joe Flacco is starting? Yeah, I heard. Here we go. Wow. For the foreseeable future too, it feels like for the Indianapolis Colts. They're better with him. Were you teammates with Flacco? I was. What do you
Starting point is 00:03:39 think of Joey Flacco? I've said it forever. He's the best deep ball thrower I ever played with. Okay, what about as a human behind the scenes? How is he dealing with all this shit? Because this has been very loud, obviously. He's a phenomenal teammate. He really is. He's great in the locker room. He's great with the guys. I mean, the whole team has to love him. They have to love this move because the offensive line knows balls are going to get completed.
Starting point is 00:03:58 And also wide receivers know the balls are going to get completed. Bingo. Everybody's going to play for him. Is it too late, though, for this particular move? You know, that's been kind of a narrative that people have been saying. So, we get to a point now in a season where, has it already slipped away? Then you choose to go like we're trying to win now. It's like, Colts win
Starting point is 00:04:14 on this past Sunday, they're going to leave the division. That's a home playoff game. We haven't won the division in a long, long, long time. Now, Coach Steichen came out today and said that this is not quitting on anthony richardson by any means it was his decision he obviously had to talk and talk to uh jim ursae but he was the one that was to make the decision he said it's obviously tough for anthony richardson
Starting point is 00:04:36 but he thinks he'll handle it the right way i think he said in there learn how to you know maybe operate the offense be a little bit more professional i think you said in that entire thing and then i think the big takeaway from everybody around the Anthony Richardson benching is, like, A, got to lie to the media. Yeah, for sure. Zaire Franklin, who's obviously stud for the Indianapolis Colts, he was leading the league in tackles. He is our heartbeat on the defensive side of the ball,
Starting point is 00:05:01 alongside DeForest Buckner. He talked about it on his podcast. He was like, we got to lie there. Got to lie there. Can've got to lie there. Can't be telling the truth. Even if you were out of breath, you had a strain or something, you thought something was happening, and then you were able to get back out there. But the fact that he thought he could just say that and it was going to be okay,
Starting point is 00:05:16 that's a part of the maturity process of being the face of a franchise and being an NFL quarterback, which Joe Flacco knows all about. Joe Flacco and that's like an offense too i feel like steichen can draw up any offense for anybody you look what happened in philadelphia after he left now obviously they're starting to figure it out they get saquon back but with jonathan taylor the weapons we have outside the offensive line i don't i don't do a lot of grading they're good i haven't seen them in top five they haven't seen them in top five but pff has got them very high.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And it feels like our offense is able to operate. And we had Goodson, Sermon, and Jonathan Taylor all running well. So I'd assume the offensive line is doing a good job. It's like, with the defense, how many people have been paid? With how much talent's on the offense? You get a quarterback in there that can run the offense. As a Colts fan, I think we can go. Now, there's a lot of Colts fans that are mad at me.
Starting point is 00:06:05 A lot of Colts fans still mad at me. Sure, sure. A lot of saying terrible things about me. Like, very rude. Very rude things saying about me. What have I done for the Colts? Nothing, I guess, obviously. Not just, like, punting, obviously nothing,
Starting point is 00:06:14 but just everything else for the Colts in that entire thing. I think what we said and have said is good for the long term of Anthony Richardson. I think he had to hear it from a lot of people. And hopefully it's a situation where he realizes that whenever you are, okay, the quarterback of an NFL team, this isn't like college, we're lucky you're our quarterback. High school, we're thankful
Starting point is 00:06:35 that we have the most athletic guy. This is a billion dollar operation. This is your profession. This is your job. This is your work. And there's a lot of other people's jobs and families that are depending upon your success. It's no longer a game. This is your employment. This is how you are making a living. So if he's able to learn that, I think his talent is in abundance. I think Shane Steichen understands that his talent and abilities there. Now, a lot of
Starting point is 00:06:59 people say he's going to have to play to get that. It's like, there's been guys in the past that have been able to sit and watch and learn. Hopefully he'll be able to get the mental reps. But once again, was he ever doing that? You know, and is this potentially a part of the development process to develop? Hopefully that's where I stand on it. I assume, you know, we got Jage in the next hour. Yeah. Looking forward to that. And this happened against Houston Texans and Houston Texans defense is already like, I think it's a testament to the defense. You said, I think it was Will Anderson, I think, was doing a podcast, and he said, yeah, never happened before, right? Never?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Quarterback never, ever in the history of football has tapped out before, right? Yeah. I think it's a testament to our defense. It's like I'd be saying the same damn thing. If I was the Houston Texans defense, I would be saying, yeah, only quarterback in the history tap out against a team. Who was it? Healthy.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Didn't want it anymore. Us. I assume James is going to be loud about it yeah sure we don't need to continue to drag on about it because i think this could be a pivotal point for anthony richardson hope so going forward to become a great because if not you're talking about an immense amount of talent just not figuring it out yeah i mean like you said it's a it's a privilege you know to play in the nfl and Sometimes you've got to learn that he is a young kid. He has to also know it's got to matter to him more than anybody else. It's got to be Anthony Richardson
Starting point is 00:08:11 Incorporated once you enter the league. The NFL, it goes on. Teams go on. Injuries happen. Moves happen. The coaches, they're going to make the best decisions for the program. The GMs, the owners, they're going to do the same thing. He's got to figure it out for him. It's the big boy league you you went to joe you moved to joe and now the team goes on with joe now the offensive line they did get there i think they got their ass
Starting point is 00:08:33 beat last week they have been playing well this year but they got their ass beat last week so they got to um obviously answer the bell as well and um you know everything's still in front of the right now season's definitely not away the you see what's going on in Houston right now. I saw CJ. CJ looked bummed out. He was bummed out. You know, you lose Stephon Diggs, who I'm sure they've gotten tight. They've gotten close.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He's a guy that works his ass off, plays tough, and he has a season-ending injury. So you make this move with the Colts, you obviously see the rest of the season there. So we'll see how it goes. We will see how it goes. And once again, hope Anthony becomes a great quarterback. For sure. Still can. There's been a lot goes. And once again, hope Anthony becomes a great quarterback. For sure.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Still can. There's been a lot of great quarterbacks that have had to sit a bit. Tom Brady. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Lamar Jackson even sat for a bit behind Joe Flacco. Phillip Rivers. Josh sat for a little bit. Yeah. So they're comparing his stats to Josh Allen's stats his rookie year. And it's like what the Bills were, what the Colts are. Two different situations. This Colts team is paid.
Starting point is 00:09:31 This Colts team has pillar spots paid. And can go. Yeah. Behind Joe. Yeah. Easily. Flack A we trust. Browns did, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Always have. They did. And they were on a run. That's right. Flack A we trust. Browns did, didn't they? Always have. They did. And they were on a run. Why can't we have a little fun? Why are we picking and choosing when to win? I don't know. We can win right now. Let's go ahead and do it.
Starting point is 00:09:52 That's what Shane Sikin said. Shane Sikin also has to worry about addressing that team and being able to continue to say his message about, hey, we're trying to win, we're trying to win, we're trying to win. We have everything in this room. And then if you're making a decision, and then they said the cap out had nothing to do with it okay that's not true that is that certainly had everything to do with it because we can work on the development on the
Starting point is 00:10:14 field but then if we got to also work on like understanding who you are in a situation that's a lot to put on him he's 22 future's bright good luck ar we're pulling for you i do hope you're great six figures on season tickets okay coming up with concepts and ideas to make that place a home field advantage you know like trying invested very much invested in the colts and it's like hey i hope you are the same i hope you're invested as well speaking of invested I've gotten kind of. Not like... More than expected. Much more than expected. Invested in a sport that I didn't even know
Starting point is 00:10:51 why people watched for a long time. The fuck was that? I don't know. We've had a lot of issues. That was your phone. Okay, good. I didn't know. Somebody just walked in after what happened yesterday. Let's go to the Talks at the Table. I see the Yankees in after what happened yesterday. Spooky season. Let's go to the talk show table. I have Pasta Connor and I have Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Ty Schmidt, I see the Yankees cap on your head there. I did not expect to watch baseball. This postseason has been electrifying. Now, obviously, the first three games of the World Series, the Dodgers have done their thing. But last night, the local kid hits a grand salami. Most grand slams in the history of a postseason this year for the MLB. The hometown kid does it for the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:11:29 We extend the series. Last night was electric. Feels like baseball has been electric. Obviously, yesterday you were pretty bummed out. You were big time bummed out. You said some things about Joey Crack, I think. Stand by. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Go back to the good times. Yeah, I'll soften it a bit. Go back to the good times when we were soften it a bit Go back to the good times When we were leaning back Yeah you're right Remember We were all doing We were
Starting point is 00:11:48 You know what I mean So let's remember the good times Of Fat Joe Not just him walking around Yeah Stomping all over the mound Yeah you're right New York
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah Kicking dirt all over the rubber I don't know why They put him in a bad spot To answer Ice Cube I agree They put him in a bad spot Especially with how
Starting point is 00:12:03 Ice Cube was just so calm. His mic was working perfectly. It sounded like you didn't have to yell. The songs he had were just like... Today was a good day. Exactly. The freestyles that he was putting in there about... It was like a perfect thing. And they're like, you know what? It worked. And the Yankees could have just
Starting point is 00:12:19 made it about the baseball. They had Jeter throwing out the first pitch. It's like, you know, they have a bunch of Yankee legends back there. Like, let's not get the eighth guy on the wish list to come out and stomp all over the baseball. They had Jeter throwing out the first pitch. It's like they have a bunch of Yankee legends back there. Let's not get the eighth guy on the wish list to come out and stomp all over the place. That's Joe A's wish list. Lean back. Remember, we had good times. That's being generous.
Starting point is 00:12:33 We had good times with Joey. Come on. You don't mean that. But anyways, he does that. You guys lose. This series is over. You were in a bad spot yesterday. How do you feel this morning, brother? Much better. Much, much better. Obviously, a a lot of people dodgers fans especially like the dodgers kind of punted on last night's game you can do that when you're up 3-0 it was a bullpen game but the yankees did exactly what they had to do like they couldn't just squeak one out either i don't think they
Starting point is 00:12:58 could have won that game 5-4 you know 4-3 or whatever the case may be like they needed to make a statement they needed to beat the shit out of them. They did, and it was exactly what I talked about yesterday when we were talking to Carl Ravish. Up until this point, the Yankees had five to six guys in their lineup that were automatic outs. They were getting absolutely no production from the bottom of their batting order. And when you have a guy like Judge who's not hitting either,
Starting point is 00:13:22 you're basically relying on two guys in the lineup to beat a Dodgers team who has nine guys who are currently hitting. Last night, there's Austin Wells just hitting an absolute moonshot. He's batting. Going into this game, he was batting like.88 in the playoffs. Whoa, wait a minute. Their 7-8-9 hitters last night had five hits and seven RBIs. They scored 11.
Starting point is 00:13:42 That's what you need to do to beat the Dodgers because they are just so deep and so good. Granted, it was a bullpen game. They didn't have their horse out there, but now the Yankees are kind of... All the pressure is on the Dodgers. Obviously, being at home at Yankee Stadium, Garrett Cole's going tonight. The Yankees are in a position where I think they kind of want to be like they late in the game last night the the dodgers decided not to use some of their like high leverage bullpen arms which you wouldn't do when you're getting your ass kicked but it gave the the guys in the top of the yankees batting
Starting point is 00:14:13 order like an opportunity to kind of see some pitches yeah exactly get good wood like judge judge is very close he had much better at bats last night had a hard hit single and an rbi like it just it it looked it looked like the Yankees. That was the Yankees team we saw all year. They led the American League in runs and they scored 11 last night. And now you're in a position where you have a guy who at one time had the biggest contract in the history of baseball. It's exactly why you paid him was to come in and pitch in massive moments
Starting point is 00:14:42 like this in the World Series. So they have their horse on the mound. They have a lot of momentum going into this game. Obviously, Volpe was another guy who was struggling. He was massive last night. So you win tonight, you fly to LA, and then if you go back to LA 3-2, it is kind of like a... All the vote.
Starting point is 00:14:57 All the pressure is on the Dodgers. Okay, so some stats from Hembo going into last night. Teams to lead 3-0 in a best-of-seven postseason series in baseball are 39-1 all-time, including 24-0 in the World Series. 21 of the 24 teams that took 3-0 lead in the World Series included nine straight went on to sweep. The Yankees, they said, were the first team to extend a series after being down 3-0 since like 1970-something.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It hasn't happened in forever. Joining us now, did they get out of their slump? Did they flip this thing on its head? Senior MLB insider analyst, brain reporter, journalist for MLB on
Starting point is 00:15:39 ESPN, including a very well-written piece this morning that went out about 4.30 a.m wow which he had from yesterday all the way till then ladies and gentlemen the jet jeff passon gentlemen how are you i'm great man yesterday i send you a text in the morning uh you ghost me and then you send me a text in the afternoon you go Bob I'm up to like 5 a.m. after all these games I was asleep I am so sorry that's very real I couldn't even imagine these games run late it was like second inning and it
Starting point is 00:16:13 was like nine o'clock or something yeah I mean these games run late and then all the post shit and then the talk stuff and then typing things up thank you for making time baseball is awesome right now now I just read off some Hembo stats about 3-0 leads in series in baseball including 24-0 in the World Series. Did you see anything last night that makes you believe like wait a minute? Maybe Judge is out of his slump because he hit the ball. Volpe not doing great. He hits a grand slam at home. Goes crazy. Now, they're showing pictures of him with Jeter
Starting point is 00:16:42 whenever he was a kid. I mean, this is Yankees boy., shorts up boy saying not in my town. You're not doing this in my town. Did they build up enough momentum baseball wise to maybe extend this to a seven, maybe make it six, maybe keep it rolling jet in your eyes. Pat, you just said it right there. No team in world series history has forced a game six after being down three nothing so the Yankees have an opportunity tonight to do something really special uh but look getting it back to Los Angeles is not the goal here for them right like they want to do what the Boston Red Sox did to them in the 2004 ALCS and come back from three nothing and make the greatest comeback of all time but it's not going to be easy like tonight they've got Garrett Cole going 324 million dollar ace American
Starting point is 00:17:32 League Cy Young winner last year but a guy who missed the first two and a half months of the season because he was out with an elbow injury and you know there are questions about how deep is he going to be able to go into this game and And then once you go back to L.A., the fans are going to be there. But momentum is a real thing. And, you know, a Yankees player last night, as he was walking through the clubhouse, said to me, don't let the Yankees get hot. We're not at that point yet. Because if you look at what the Dodgers did yesterday, they didn't punt this game necessarily, but they did not throw any of their high leverage relievers. And so they have Jack Flaherty on the mound,
Starting point is 00:18:12 who's been really good for them, and they have a locked and loaded and rested bullpen. And so I think the advantage is still distinctly with the Dodgers. But if the Yankees can pull this one off tonight, all of a sudden, a series that looked like it was going to be a laugher gets very, very interesting. So the Dodgers expected, I don't want to say expected, but understood there's a chance we lose this? Like, take your money to Vegas to go gamble it. There's a chance we're going to lose this money. That was what the Dodgers viewed last night, but if you win, it's great. A hundred percent. And here's the thing that you have to understand about the Dodgers Pat they have only three starting pitchers right now and they lost like six guys to injury
Starting point is 00:18:54 during the regular season Shohei Otani isn't pitching Tony Gonsolin didn't pitch this year I mean they lost Tyler Glasnow and they lost Ryan, and they lost Dustin May, and guy after guy went down with entries. So the fact that they're in this position right now, and that until last night, they had outpitched starting pitching-wise as well as the bullpen, the Yankees, all series long, it's been the most surprising element to this series. The Yankees came in believing that they had the starting pitching advantage because they had Garrett Cole, and because they have Carlos Red Redon and because Clark Schmidt's been really good this year. Their starting pitching has not been great, and Luis Gil wasn't last night either.
Starting point is 00:19:32 But if they're going to win this series, it is going to be on the back of those starting pitchers because, you know, as much as their bats woke up last night, the Dodgers have just as good bats in their lineup. Don't let the Yankees get hot, Ty. That's right. He said he got goosebumps. Did you hear what he said whenever you were talking there? Ty said, oh, I just got goosebumps. Whenever you said that somebody said that walking through the clubhouse. He's all jacked up. Yesterday,
Starting point is 00:19:55 he was not. It was over yesterday. Fat Joe, was Fat Joe received the same way by all the Yankees fans as it was? Ty was very negative yesterday, kind of softening it. Everybody loved it, right? Yesterday, everybody loved Fat Joe out there yesterday? Yeah, I mean, everybody loved Ice Cube.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I'll say that. Well, yeah. Duh. Everyone saw Fat Joe. Well put, Ken. Well put. Fat Joe does not deserve any of this. What the hell? Fat Joe does not deserve any of this. And I saw Shanti was singing not deserve any of this and I saw Ashanti was singing the national anthem. Crushed it. Absolutely crushed it. I saw Nelly was there too. I don't
Starting point is 00:20:30 know if you saw him. He's wearing a Dodgers outfit. Yeah. Split house. Split house. But they're all for United States of America's national anthem. That's right. And I appreciate that. There was something that happened in the game that I think I've never seen before, but certainly awesome. I think it added to the excitement. D-Bud has a question to you. Yeah, down 3-0, you know, backs in the wall, kind of all hands on decks, players, fans included. Like Pat, I'm somewhat of a casual
Starting point is 00:20:55 baseball fan, but I definitely lock in on playoff baseball. The fan that reached over and tried to rip Mookie Betts' obviously the ball out of the glove. What's your thoughts on that? Have you ever seen anything like that to that magnitude? He did get the ball out. He did. He did. I have
Starting point is 00:21:12 never seen anything like that. It was the ultimate in fan buffoonery. They got kicked out of the game. There should be a rule. We're right here. We're right here. We're right here. We're right here.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He tried to bust his hand. But we're right here. I mean, he was ā€“ and look at the other one come in and grab the hand. Look at the ā€“ what are you doing? Well, he's the one saying, it's right here. Right here. Yeah. It was not a good situation.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And, look, I have criticized fans from Los Angeles in the past for throwing things on the field. These gentlemen, I'm not even going to call them gentlemen, these men deserve every bit of the criticism. And they got kicked out of the game. Jesse Rogers, our intrepid baseball reporter, went and talked to them uh talked to one of them afterward and the quote he got was uh i had to d up yeah it's awesome and i patrol that wall so yeah a guy the wall is not yours to patrol and and i hope that fans understand not only are you going to get kicked out of the stadium on a thousand plus dollar ticket uh but the opportunity to come back into the stadium if you act that way is
Starting point is 00:22:31 likely to be revoked from you so if it's in our area we're going to be up when this all changed whenever old buddy for the cubs right bartman when bartman happened what's the rule now they're not allowed to touch anything if they touch something it's an out What's the rule now? They're not allowed to touch anything. If they touch something, it's an out. What is the rule? Because that's a phenomenal catch by Mookie, first of all. It's a great catch with a couple drunk New Yorkers around him. And then, obviously, them trying to bust open his hand and then fight off the defense. He can't do that.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I mean, look at his face. I mean, the big drunk doofus there is obviously way out of pocket. Way out of line. I appreciate how... We'll be back tomorrow. I think Ava said, we'll be back tomorrow to defend this turf. That's their section. Way out of line. Got the win. I appreciate how, yeah, I appreciate, we'll be back tomorrow. I think he even said, we'll be back tomorrow to defend this turf.
Starting point is 00:23:08 That's their section. That's his wall. Okay, so it's absurd. Mookie, we don't like that it happened to you, but it is hilarious that this happened in a World Series game.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Now, the Bartman thing changed the rule. What is the rule on when you're allowed to, because I used to try to take a fishing net into Pittsburgh Pirates games, like those big ones, and I have snagged, not a home run,
Starting point is 00:23:28 it was a foul ball kid turn and chucked it up, and it was certainly going to maybe another group, and I snagged right in front of them with the fishing net, celebrated. On Jumbotron, like 6,000 people saw it. Pretty big pop. Walking out, celebration with me. We're very drunk because the only time you're going to Pirates games is to tailgate before the Pirate game.
Starting point is 00:23:48 You get in there around the fifth inning, you see them lose, and then you go back out and head somewhere else. But I was thinking I'd steal one. If we get down close to a home run, depending upon where we get our tickets at, I'm going to steal one. Not allowed now? Isn't there rules behind that entire thing?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah, not allowed. What is this? This is America? What am I paying a ticket for? Hey, hold on a second. Hold on a second. We've got to make sure that fans act a particular way and stay out of players' way. Right? I just want to make that abundantly clear.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Fans are there to watch the game. You are not a participant in the game you are not the 10th man you are not deeing anything up right now that is Mookie Betts' job and here's the thing they reached over the edge Pat and once you get into like onto the field of play like we saw this earlier in the postseason with Gleyber Torres like A fan reached over the wall and caught a ball. It looked at first like it was a home run. It got overruled and turned into a
Starting point is 00:24:52 ground rule double. In this situation, not only should he have been out because Mookie Betts actually caught the ball. Look at his face. What's he doing? The big drunk doofus is certainly out of pocket. We do not want to say we're on the fatso side here. We are not on the intoxicated Yankee fan side at all.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We are not. I don't know. Just to be clear, I don't know what his state of sobriety was. He's busted open Mookie Betts' hand. He's got a little courage in there. He was locked in to be drunk. Yeah, saw the ball the whole way. He was going to catch it if Mookie didn't.
Starting point is 00:25:29 All right, maybe he was too locked in. Maybe it was the other way. You know, I don't know how. Hey, hey, can I just do this? This is our area here, okay? Public service announcement. Fans, don't do that. All right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Just don't. It's stupid. Unless you absolutely have to. What? Unless you absolutely have to, then go ahead. No. If that's ninth inning. Ty, would absolutely have to What? Unless you absolutely have to Then go ahead If that's 9th inning Ty, would you have done that?
Starting point is 00:25:49 No, without a doubt I would not have done that But I'm not that You know what I mean? Like, hey If you're in that situation And you feel like you have to This is our area
Starting point is 00:25:58 Okay, we D up our area Alright Then you do what you gotta do And you live with the consequences If that's the bottom of the ninth Exactly You live with the consequences Of paying $2,500 for a World Series ticket and getting booted in the bottom of the first inning.
Starting point is 00:26:12 It's going to happen. How about them turn around and we'll be back? I mean, they got a hero send-off. They did. People were going nuts. Mookie had to be so flustered. Is somebody forcing my glove open right now? I mean, it's teach tape.
Starting point is 00:26:23 On what? Now the next fans know, like, hey, you can't rip the ball out. Like, just block his glove. If someone comes over. We're miniature golfers. Cover his eyes maybe. Yeah, that is. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Don't cover his eyes. I'm saying he could. Don't do that. Don't do that. We're saying don't do that. Close his glove before the ball gets there, brother. Catch a fair hand right in front of him. Right on top of his glove.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Wherever his glove is, put your hand right above it because he's got better eyes than you. He's got this for a living. And then bang, you catch it all of a sudden. Now whose ball is it? Sorry. Caught the ball. News from the internet,
Starting point is 00:27:04 and I think this was broken last night in the same statement. The boys are allowed back in town. Let's go. Yankee fans who interfere with Mookie are allowed to attend game five. Obviously, we've invested a fucking million bucks in tickets this year. You don't think we're allowed to come? Owner's suite. Yeah, we're allowed to come.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah, we're allowed to come. Actually, A-Rod's sitting with them. What is he saying? That's wild. It's on the pregame show. We're A-Rod's sitting with him. That's wild. We're right here! We're right here! It's our area! That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:27:33 We need to start acting this way. From the field suite at the Colts game. We need to start maybe jumping out there. I'm going to jump over and intercept the ball for next week. Two-minute drive. The Colts are about to lose.
Starting point is 00:27:48 We need it. I'll get out there. That was like when the Ravens won the Super Bowl. I think it's Joe Flacco. They did a slow safety. Sam Cooke, if you remember. Ravens 9 were Super Bowl. Down New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Beyonce, halftime, blew out all the power. Delayed the entire thing. End of game. They do slow safety with Sam Cooke, which means takeime, blew out all the power. Delayed the entire thing. End of game, they do slow safety with Sam Cooke, which means take snap, run around an end zone. Everybody hold. Take a safety because you're up so much. Then you've got to punt it. And that was like the last play.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Joe Flacco mic'd up, says, if they break it, I'm going to go trip them. If they break it, I'm going to go trip them right on the side. If he comes down our sideline and they break it, this is a Super Bowl. I will do that. And that's what these guys were thinking. they break it, I will trip. This is a Super Bowl. I will do that. And that's what these guys were thinking. Yeah. Right. That's what these guys were thinking. It's a World Series.
Starting point is 00:28:29 If this thing gets in our area, Mookie ain't catching shit. And what if they create a funnel for, is that Judge over there? No, no, no. Who would be on that? It would be Juan Soto. Juan Soto.
Starting point is 00:28:38 What if they have like a big funnel? Foul ball comes, and they're just bouncing it into the gloves. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Yeah, that's what the boys do. That's why they're allowed back in when they're on uh when they're on the yankee side it's a whole nother show ladder out yeah put a ladder on the field but he gets out on hands and knees i mean that is crazy. Insanity. That is so crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:05 That's incredible. Think about how long that had to feel for Mookie. Oh, my God. What the ā€“ I'm prying my glove open. Hold on. Where's the Yankees winning when this happened? No, they're losing.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Did they win the game? Sure did. Oh, thank you to the fans. That's from Hammer. Don, Don. They are putting a vote in. That guy has an ap vote for nfl awards baseball is coming that maybe maybe after that take jet look out that's the future
Starting point is 00:29:31 of media potentially uh con man has a question for you jet yeah jet what's going on with show hey we saw him running to second base during the game and he had to hold his arm like this as he kind of sprinted to second uh is he good to go or what's the status of that shoulder yeah i mean he got his first hit last night after partially dislocating his shoulder and we don't know what it's going to look like going forward you know other guys in the past like cody bellinger who have had partially dislocated shoulders have had surgery afterward thankfully non-throwing shoulder and because it is the back shoulder in his swing doesn't quite affect him in the same way that it would if it were the front shoulder so
Starting point is 00:30:10 he seems good to go you know they they have a heat pack on it during the game and he's getting treatment before the game like the dodgers top to bottom are banged up right now freddie freeman's been hurt all postseason gavin lux has a hip thing they're pitching injuries the fact that they're in the position guys that they are right now, I think really is a testament to that organization's depth. It's a really well-run team, and I think they're looking back at 2020, which is a championship they won after a 60-game season with a weird postseason inside of a bubble down in Texas.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And within the industry and among fans, a lot of them look at that 2020 championship as a lesser one. Now, I think there's a really good argument to be made. I think there's a really good argument to be made because of all of the difficulties in getting that season going and continuing it. Yeah, like exactly exactly, that it was a more difficult one. Now, because it was only a 60-game season, it's frowned upon. I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's right. But that's sort of the case where the Dodgers are at right now.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And I think this, to them, it's not so much that they want to say that, hey, we can win a full-season championship, but it's that we want to validate our excellence and that it's been going on for a long time now and that they've been to the postseason for a dozen consecutive years and won 11 National League West titles in that time and been to the World Series multiple times and that this is a franchise that's the model team in baseball right now.
Starting point is 00:31:44 That's how they're approaching this, and that's what the Yankees are fighting against. Like, this is a really good Dodgers team. We're about to see just how much metal this Yankees team has. Yeah, the world's watching, too. The numbers are absurd right now. The ratings are insane in America and obviously in Japan, which is eyeballs are eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:32:03 You know, like if they're watching, that's the number. So baseball through the roof. And if you're the Dodgers, you want to prove to the world that we're the real deal. It's not a fugaze what we did during the COVID. It's like now is a good time. But if you give up a 3-0 lead in front of the world, oh, no. Oh, no. I don't think it's going to happen strictly because they got a guy that I'm just learning of.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Should have known of him before. That's on me. Obviously, I'm a sports person. But this guy's hitting dingers more than anybody else in history, seemingly. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Jet. How do you think the Yankees need to approach attacking Freddie Freeman? Because it's like, you know, last night I see a lot of people after he hits that first inning home.
Starting point is 00:32:38 We're like, you got a base open. You got to walk him. I mean, you can't really do that when you're down 3-0. But then he obviously does that to the short porch uh garrett cole is a gamer he's a competitor obviously i think he's going to go right after him but like is there anything they can do right now i mean it seems like it really is like anything you throw to him doesn't matter the count and then also last night you know him legging out that fielder's choice to get the the run in you know with the sprained ankle like
Starting point is 00:33:04 have we ever seen i mean i sprained ankle like have we ever seen i mean i guess we haven't have we ever seen a postseason like this from a guy and also what do the yankees need to do to kind of slow him down or try to reel him in ty freddie freeman has hit a home run in six consecutive world series games going back to 2021 with at. Is that good? I mean, it's just an absurd run that he's on right now. And made even more absurd by the fact that he's in for hours of treatment, that his body feels like it's breaking down right now. And if you look at that swing, I would have said, Ty, start pitching him away because he's turning on inside pitches.
Starting point is 00:33:41 No, Freddie Freeman is so locked in at this point that he can take a ball that Luis Hill puts on the outer edge of the plate and still yank it onto that short porch. The problem is you can't pitch around Freddie Freeman because you've got Teoscar Hernandez and Max Muncy and Kike Hernandez and Tommy Edmond behind him. I mean, this one right here, This one right here, it's an iconic image after game one. It was Kirk Gibson redux. And the fact that he's hobbling around the bases, that every day he's getting pain medicine and treatment and all of that. I'm not trying to make Freddie Freeman into a hero here because, hey,
Starting point is 00:34:21 these are professional athletes and these are the games that you play for as an athlete. You live to win a ring. And so of course he's going to be out there, but at the same time, the level at which he's playing right now, it's otherworldly. And it's been incredible to watch just because what are we tune in for guys?
Starting point is 00:34:42 We tune in to see great players do great things. That's why we're sports fans, because we want to get the feeling that comes from that. And Freddie Freeman, for all of Los Angeles, is providing that right now. It's incredible. Truly. He's banged up, they said. I didn't know that. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Because whenever he answers, too, he's super classy. His tribute to his dad got me emotional. I got emotional watching him just thinking of his dad realizing probably his whole life, obviously, in front of him he's been successful. But in that moment, the amount of memories that his dad probably had. And now you're in the World Series. They did the stand-up to cancer thing in the seventh inning last night, too. His mom died from cancer when he was like 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So just, it's impossible to hate him, too. Pat, Pat, the whole thing is, Freddie Freeman, like, he's had a year. I mean, a couple of months ago, his three-year-old son, Max, was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre syndrome. And they were really worried. You know, he wasn't able to walk. And here he is after game one on the field with his kids and with his wife, Chelsea, and his sons are beating the crap out of each other and everything is great. And it's like, you know, you go through those really hard moments in order to truly savor
Starting point is 00:35:56 and appreciate the ones like this. And, you know, one of his coaches, Freddie Freeman's on the Dodgers has been going up to him before the game and asking, how's your body, how's this, how's that? And then he says, how's your brain? Because he wants to make sure that mentally Freddie Freeman is in the right place to go out and do what he's done. And clearly the body's great and the brain is thriving.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Sports are amazing, aren't they? Really what it can do for everything. The best. And Freddie has been phenomenal. Just like you, Jet, we appreciate you. A couple more long nights, hopefully, if you're a Yankees fan, obviously. Listen, if you're a baseball fan, because the reality is, Pat, if the Yankees win tonight, we're going to see something a couple days from now
Starting point is 00:36:39 that we have never seen before, which is a game six after a 3-0 lead. And if we got that, the chance of this going to a game seven, I mean, you want to talk about audience, you want to talk about narrative possibilities, you want to talk about all that, like it would be a beautiful thing. No, because Ravi brought it up yesterday. We don't like, personally, and we don't know anything about the sport or the team or the person that chose to do it, we don't like that the dodgers came out and said he's not pitching shohei's not pitching
Starting point is 00:37:09 because i want i want just a little bit of hope justin gets the game seven snoop's gonna be walking out from the outfield with dray maybe kendrick kamar pops in the game drops in obviously and then things go and then all of a sudden Shohei comes in running from ā€“ and then, wow, baseball. But that would mean that the Yankees would have to rattle off a few straight. Yeah. And what I heard from Jet is that the Dodgers didn't even want to win last night. So congrats to you guys winning that game. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 00:37:38 They're going to have to win at least one more. So, you know, that's fine they didn't want to win last night. But I don't know. Who said that, Jet? Who said don't let us get hot? Nobody specifically came out and said that. No, no, no. Who said in the clubhouse don't let the Yankees get hot?
Starting point is 00:37:54 I mean, you didn't say it on the record. I'm not going to betray my sources. Yeah, real original. Who gives a shit? Real original. Oh, that's the Detroit Tigers. I mean, come on, man. It's not like he said, like, oh, I want to go slit Freddie Freeman's throat.
Starting point is 00:38:09 He said, don't let us get hot. He might have said that, though. We don't know. We don't know. We'll kill everybody on the Dodgers. Yeah. I understand. Yeah, keep your sources anonymous there.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Respected, Jeff. Was it somebody? Should Ty be very jacked up about who said it? Yes. Okay. Okay. Yep. That's respected, Joe. Was it somebody? Should Ty be very jacked up about who said it? Yes. Okay. Okay. Yep. See, that's all I need.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That's all I need. Go win one tonight, fly back to L.A. That's all you got to do. One game at a time. Who's walking out on the field tonight? Nobody. What's the pregame entertainment? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:38:38 No, no, no. First pitch. We need a... Oh, yeah. Gazia Masui is throwing out the first pitch tonight. Boy, are they booming? You know what? Yeah, Fallon is doing it, actually. Gazia Masui is throwing out the first pitch tonight. What, and then are they booming? You know what? Fallon is doing it, actually.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. Fallon's coming out, bringing the boom. Okay, I don't mind that. I'm excited for tonight. Jet, we appreciate you, brother. Hopefully we get to talk to you soon. Take a nap, or if you're headed to the ballpark, good luck for the next 16 hours, brother.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Got to go hit the yard right now, boys. Good seeing you. Ladies and gentlemen, Jet Passon. Thank you. Yeah, Jet! He said the Dodgers didn't... They knew they were gonna lose. Yeah, what? They knew there was a chance we were gonna lose this one.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Baseball's gotta baseball. Always. What do you mean? Why can't we just say, like, yeah, that was a hard fought battle? Well, it's just like Game 4 with the Yankees. Their best pitcher, Garrett Cole, like, hey, must win. Are we gonna put him out there? And they go, no. Not hard-fought battle. Well, it's just like game four with the Yankees, their best pitcher, Garrett Cole, like, hey, must win. Are we going to put him out there? And they go, no, not going to put him out there. So, like, you could potentially say baseball there, but now they
Starting point is 00:39:31 got Garrett Cole fresh for a very important game. Exactly. I think the Dodgers were thinking the same thing. The way the Dodgers have been hitting, you could argue that, hey, we're facing a rookie tonight in this game. And then in the first inning, Freddie Freeman hits a homer
Starting point is 00:39:47 and it's like the importance of scoring first, we've talked about it. Every game so far. Yeah, it's massive. At that point, Yankees fans too, you're thinking like, Jesus Christ, they better score one, they better answer here in the bottom of the first, otherwise we're going to see exactly what we've seen
Starting point is 00:40:03 the last few games. Dodgers thought they could maybe steal this one yeah like hey let's steal this one but i think they were never and from what i just learned once again not a baseball guy but if i was to take what jet passengers said as reality they probably were like we're not five we're good with five okay with losing it because and then especially in that fashion because then you don't have to throw any of your horses in the bullpen. So they have guys that are fresh tonight with who, I mean, you could say he's their ace, but he's the guy who's number one in their rotation. So it's strategy. Now, can the strategy backfire potentially because Aaron Judge saw a beach ball coming in there, it looked like.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Not quite yet, but it's getting a little bit bigger. It was the size of a penny, and now I'd say it's like a half dollar. So we need theā€” Well, and Volpe I'd say it's like a half dollar. So we need to... And Volpe's having a whole... This is my time. He played unbelievable last night. A couple defensive plays too, I heard. Austin Wells. I mean, it really was. It was every guy who had been playing like absolute
Starting point is 00:40:55 shit kind of came through last night. Did you wake him up? Exactly. Is this morning wood all of a sudden? Now we've got to continue to move along in the day. Whoa. Did you wake up the Yankees monsters? We shall see. There's a chance. We'll watch tonight we'll watch tonight right next game yeah obviously yep can't wait for it let's talk about another sport that's crushing outside the nfl and mlb college ball listen college football right now is throwing its fastball every single weekend seemingly every single prime time slot now i know prime time is considered night or whatever but every like exclusive big time
Starting point is 00:41:24 noon games have showed up afternoon games have time, noon games have showed up, afternoon games have showed up, night games have showed up, late night games have shown up. Every single week, it's been bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. It's been Freddie Freeman. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, to tell us about the college stories we need to keep up with, let's head to Hammer. Don, Don.
Starting point is 00:41:41 With noted college football author, A.P. Tone. Thank you, Pat. I appreciate that yes college ball has been unbelievable and we are gonna start with our 25 still alive and what I mean by this is I went through the teams and I went through each conference and I got 25 teams that could potentially still be alive for the college football playoff now the SEC there's there is a lot of teams still alive because of the
Starting point is 00:42:05 scc championship and their road to get there but like we've talked about it in in the this year with the 12 team playoff how many teams are potentially going to be able to just have hope this late in the season to get in the playoffs is insane and this is what i'm talking about so like even we'll miss with the two losses normally they'd be like, oh, shit, we're out. We can't get to the SEC championship even. It doesn't even matter. But, like, all these teams with what's above them can still get in and still get into the playoff. Because, if you don't know, if you're not aware, if you win your conference championship, you automatically get into the playoff. So, that's huge.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Like, A&M still has to play Texas. So, they're above. They still have to play each other. Georgia still has to play Texas. So they're above. They still have to play each other. Georgia still has to play Ole Miss and Tennessee. So what happens if, I'm not saying Georgia's going to lose those games, but if they get to three losses, that's a situation there. And LSU and Bama still have to play each other, which is basically going to be a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:42:57 So that situation's there. In the Big Ten, Indiana still has to play Ohio State and Michigan. So they could have two losses, hypothetically. Oregon actually only has to go Ohio State and Michigan. So they could have two losses hypothetically. Oregon actually only has to go to Michigan this weekend, and then they pretty much got a cakewalk. So I think you could pencil Oregon into the Big Ten championship game. And then Ohio State, Penn State obviously play this weekend. And Ohio State obviously has IU too, so a lot can happen there.
Starting point is 00:43:20 In the ACC, Clemson has to play Pitt still. So those two are going to see each other for a potential make it to the ACC. Clemson has to play Pitt still, so those two are going to see each other for a potential make it to the ACC championship. Miami's got a similar road as Oregon. Miami's played their toughest part of the schedule. They are most likely going to be in the ACC championship game. Congrats, Cristobal. And then SMU also has to play
Starting point is 00:43:38 Pitt. Obviously, that's this weekend, so that's a big one there. And then the Big 12 is crazy. What's that? The Big 12 is crazy is crazy yeah it doesn't seem as crazy as i thought maybe well what's that forget a couple teams well team at least you know mathematically there is a percentage chance but like oh so there's more still alive i get i get i mean if there's 26 still alive i guess if like someone's like hey you got a 2% chance to live, you do technically have a chance to live.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah, Neil Brown's looking at that 2% and saying, that's looking pretty good to me. You're not signing up for a vacation 10 years from now. I get it. Reality. BYU's got to go to Utah still on their schedule, so that's their tough one left. And then Iowa State and K-State play in the last game of the season, so that's their tough one left. And then Iowa State and K-State play in the last game of the season.
Starting point is 00:44:27 But Colorado's got a nice little road there. They can make it potentially too. And then that group of five right there, Boise's played their hardest part of the schedule. If they win their conference championship, they are currently the leaders to be in the playoff. But the American conference, that's Army, Navy, and Tulane. Army and Navy are going to play each other.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Tulane's going to play them still too. The winner of that could potentially leapfrog Boise, depending on the situation. I don't even know if Washington State could get in, but they're 7-1. Yeah, they could, right? They'd be a group of five, I think. They would be a group of five.
Starting point is 00:44:57 But they're not a champion. No, there's not a Pac-2 championship game. Interesting. I wonder how they'll deal with that. I did Google it, and there was an article about them potentially making the playoffs, so it's possible in some sort of fashion. And then you've got Notre Dame sitting at 7-1. So there's a lot of teams left that could potentially get into the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Good for Washington State, legitimately. Good for Washington State that you're having such a good run. And once again, have no idea how your commissioner or president didn't figure out a way to get you guys to a conference when literally everybody else was able to except for two of you so it's his best year definitely our fault i know that because we didn't understand the severity of the situation me personally i don't think i did i was kind of naive to it all but it's like what a phenomenal run for them but when push comes to shove who they played how they played without being able to win a championship with the championship being the main indicator on who makes it in for the Power 5,
Starting point is 00:45:49 I'll be excited to see the backlash of that, how that would go. I don't know how you deal with that. And somebody needs to pick up this Washington State team and do a conference. They're good football, and good football means good. Now, I think ratings potentially with Washington State, there's a lot of things being thrown whenever they ended up not joining anywhere and popularity and yada, yada, yada. I know they have a passionate fan base.
Starting point is 00:46:10 They attacked us. They have a very passionate fan base. They have a good football team, and I feel like they're only going to continue to grow. Somebody should pick them up, some group of five. They got that PacWest thing that's going to potentially come together so they won't have to deal with it. But if they continue to do what they do and they end up not making it,
Starting point is 00:46:26 that will be a loud conversation. But if they continue to do what they're doing and they do make it over a champion of one of these things, that's going to be a loud conversation as well. What else should we talk about, Tony Diggs? Let's talk about Mike Elko. We've talked about the situation at Indiana in first year coaching Kurt Cignetti and what he's done at IU.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Let's not forget the dumpster fire that Texas A&M was the last few years and what was going on there with the $75 million buyout. Mike Alko, who was a Duke for a couple years and turned them completely around, who is not a traditional football powerhouse and what he did there, goes to A&M, which is a full football school that will dump a ton of money into the football program. They are sitting atop the SEC standings, 5-0 in the SEC with a huge win last week against LSU. And that quarterback right there, who, you know, there's Connor Wegman started the season. Marcel comes in later in the season after Wegman gets hurt. He was unbelievable. And the job that Elko's done already at Texas A&M has been awesome. Yeah, Marcel Reed went to high school in Nashville, I believe, because remember we were sitting on the game day set whenever they didn't
Starting point is 00:47:28 know what the quarterback was gonna look like one week. I think was like five weeks ago, four weeks ago, whatever it is. And Herbstreet said, I think on air while he's giving his pick, he's like, oh yeah this guy was quarterback for my kid's high school team. He is electric. Great kid, hard-working dude, yadda yadda yadda. he goes and starts playing for a couple games for texas a m i think elko says can't lose a job because of an injury i think elko like feels obligated to do that wegman goes back in they win they continue to win but the offense looks a bit stagnant him making the switch to marcel reed in the middle of that game was
Starting point is 00:48:00 immediate i mean it was just a lightning rod and what he's been able to do, obviously, everywhere he's been on the defensive side of the ball, massive brain. But if they're able to have an electrifying offense, like he had with Riley Leonard at Duke, at Texas A&M, with this environment and this atmosphere in the SEC with a fan base that has been desperate for them to be a winner.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Think about how much money they paid Jimbo to leave. That's how much they want to win. They paid somebody that much money to leave because of how much they want to win. It's like Elko said in his press conference, the reporter said, do you think that the reason why you're connecting so well with the fan base is because of your blue-collar hard work mentality? And he said, it's also seven wins. Let's not.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And he likes that. He understands the deal. He knows exactly what the deal is. He was defensive coordinator there, so I think he feels like a great sense of pride going back in there, turning it around. He loves the community. Obviously, he loves the environment.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It's like Texas A&M has everything to win. We didn't expect it to be this year, especially after what happened when game day goes down there early in the year. And then, like, just let Elko kind of settle in. Guy's a ball coach. Yes, he is. Guy is a ball coach. And then his entire speech about this isn't politician you know speak we're not just talking fast here just get through these things we're a real program we're a real culture so if
Starting point is 00:49:15 you're a good player you want to come to a real program come here it's like he gets it he gets he has to be recruiting but it's going to be his guys it's not just going to be any five star it's going to be like elko's guys d but this walkout i mean it's sick so sick you can you can sell the program whenever you have shit like that happening their fans are all in remember the night before these motherfuckers are up at 3 2 a.m midnight yell they do practice for what they're gonna do for the entire thing it's like that's an easy place to sell i think if you're elko yeah you got the environment obviously you got to sell to the recruits. And then, speaking of recruits, you're in the second-best state
Starting point is 00:49:47 for high school football when it comes to Texas. Probably third, if I had to guess. Maybe first. Not if you're making the Hall of Fame. One is one. We know what one is. Pennsylvania. And then, probably, Texas, California, coming into conversation. Pennsylvania, probably top five.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Probably top five. He's in a great spot right now. Who's contributing the most to the Hall of Fame in great football? I mean, we'll do that. A lot of great quarterbacks in college right now all come from one state. What's that? It's Texas. Texas is obviously phenomenal. Big.
Starting point is 00:50:17 It's big. Of course. It's very big. That's not Texas' fault. No, absolutely not. And boy, they love football down there. Hey, they spend some of those high school stadiums in Texas. I will say that they are definitely cream of the crop down there in that regard.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And it feels like they got a quarterback of the future. He's young, right, Tone? I think he's like a redshirt freshman or something like that. Yeah. I think he's pretty young. It's like, good on you, Elko. That was a cool place. That American flag, that was fun.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Huge. That was the biggest flag I'd ever seen in my life. They surround the top of the stadium as well. A thousand flags or american flags around the top of it it's like that place loves down and if a and m takes care of business and if texas takes care of business they will meet uh in the final week of the season which could be a game to go to the sec championship though so that'll be just bananas uh historical heisman what do you mean by that tone, Diggs? Historical Heisman, so in the last 20 years, there has been or sorry, since the year 2000
Starting point is 00:51:10 so 24 years, there's been four non-quarterbacks to win the Heisman and guess what? All time, there's been only one defensive player to win the Heisman. Now, Travis Hunter is who I am talking about. He is not strictly a defensive Heisman like Charles Woodson was.
Starting point is 00:51:25 He also plays on the offensive side of the ball and has been very, very, very good at it. But him winning the Heisman, he's already doing historical things. He's the first player ever to win Big 12 Offensive Player of the Week and Defensive Player of the Week in the same season. Crazy. But what he is doing, he's currently the favorite to win the Heisman now. He was banged up for a couple weeks, so he dropped. But after his week last week against Cincinnati, he is back up there at the top.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It would be a historical Heisman for Travis Hunter. Yeah, old Cincinnati. What a game. Obviously, Cincinnati had an opportunity. They had only lost two games by one point and a field goal, so we didn't really know what Cincinnati was. Colorado gets a massive win. Whenever I bring up a few weeks back to Coach Prime on game day
Starting point is 00:52:08 that Travis Hunter was the second best odds for Heisman, he goes, Travis Hunter at number two, that doesn't make sense to me. That doesn't make sense. What are you saying? I was like, I didn't make these odds, okay? I am not sportsbook. It would be cool if I was. It would be very cool if I was.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm just telling you the reality. Then he goes on a promo about Travis Hunter, all ball. Loves ball, doesn't drink. He streams, obviously. He has a show. He has an incredible personality. Feels like he gets along with all of his teammates. It's like this guy is obviously Heisman worthy, but great for football.
Starting point is 00:52:38 We are very lucky that Travis Hunter went to Colorado with Coach Prime, has been allowed to do this. Most coaches, and I don't know most guests. I haven't talked to everybody. went to Colorado with Coach Prime, has been allowed to do this. Yeah. You know? Most coaches, and I don't know most, I guess I haven't talked to everybody, and Travis Hunter's a different animal than anybody seemingly ever in the history of football. That's a fair statement. There's a lot of coaches that would be like, you've got to be one or the other. We've got four or five stars at corner.
Starting point is 00:53:00 We've got five, five stars at wide receiver. You're not going to be doing both. Coach Prime, from the very beginning, was like, Travis is doing both because Travis can do both. And he's the best player at both. I'm not saying other people wouldn't have recognized that, but I know Coach Prime definitely did. And the fact that he did, we get a chance to watch something that's never been done before. He is so good at the football.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I mean, it's freaky to watch. And I had the opportunity to play both ways my senior year. I had a 15-play script on offense. And, like, you know, you'd be gassed, but you still go out there and play. You give it your all. This guy been able to play full time and to be elite on both sides of the ball. So it's not like he just out there doing like he's going full speed. You could tell his awareness, his teammates love him. Obviously his coaches love him. What he's doing week out weekend and a week out basis is unbelievable. And I agree with you. A lot of coaches, super smart, super he and i agree with you a lot of coaches super smart super
Starting point is 00:53:45 heady on both sides a lot of coaches wouldn't let him do it and obviously a guy who played both ways in college international football he played two sports play nfl play mlb so that would probably be the only coach who have uh probably the balls to put him out there and play both ways because if he gets hurt week four and he's out for the season even though everybody gets hurt in football everybody appointed coach say oh why would you let him play both ways? He's going to get banged up, blah, blah, blah. So he's unbelievable. Should be the first pick.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Should be the Heisman right now. I think Shador should be a little bit higher, too, on that list. Yeah, Coach Brian brought that up. He's like, obviously, Shador is leading everything, quarterback odds. And he's not even really being talked about Heisman because we got Travis. He said, he's my son. So I will, like, don't we think, that was a great comment by him, don't we think the guy who is maybe leading everything
Starting point is 00:54:31 should get a little bit of a chatter, and that's because he has Travis on his team, so he kind of steals one vote from the other. It's almost like whenever Mac Jones and Devontae were together down there at Alabama, Devontae ends up winning, Mac Jones is a finalist, but I think Mac Jones understood what was going to happen. It's like Shador will be first quarterback off the board,
Starting point is 00:54:47 is what everybody's thinking, and Travis will be first player off the board. It's good work over there. Remember, Colorado wasn't shit. It's like 30 years. 30 years. It'd be West Virginia because of me, but you know what I'm saying in the entirety of it all.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And then obviously a Big Ten matchup this weekend. Penn State is hosting Ohio State for our fourth top five matchup of the year. And we're only in October still. Now this game will be in November, but you get it. It is early in the season for all these great matchups to happen. College football is alive. We appreciate you, Tone. Good luck to Travis Hunter because he he's also incredibly physically gifted.
Starting point is 00:55:26 You have to be to be able to be... I don't think I've seen him tap out and not get into it. Not even getting into it. Not even getting into it. But the conditioning, absurd. But there's multiple times where they're playing a zone and he drops out of his zone because he sees something and makes a massive play.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Let alone the tackle on the goal line. Physical. One in the game. One in the game. It's like he's football IQ through the roof on both sides. That's very abnormal. Unicorn, never seen it. Shohei, I mean, he's like Shohei basically in football,
Starting point is 00:55:57 college football at a Division I level. Maybe it's happened at maybe lower levels. Obviously, in high school, everybody plays both ways. But for him to be doing this at the highest level in college, unbelievable. So it's obviously vastly different and much less athletic i kicked and punted and coming into the league i thought i could kick and i could punt and then people be like nobody can kick and pump we try to one guy he missed every field goal was punt with the you got to focus on one and also if you get hurt we lose two Okay, we lose two specialist positions.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Like, we can't do it. In the middle of a game, we can't have that. Sorry. Never going to happen. To your point, you lose Travis Hunter. You lose lockdown and your top wide receiver. And the Western's doing his thing. It's like, that's a big roll of the dice. So he has to take care of his body.
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Starting point is 00:58:00 The Talks Table is here at Boston Corner, and that tie should make your grassy or your egg. Thank you. Thank you. That's just one. Just one. We got an update, I think, on the fat, drunk, Mookie Betts ball glove thing. The MLB has asked the Yankees to go ahead and ban those two drunk fatsoes.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yeah. Yep. They said it's their area. They need to D it up. Let's make sure it's not their area, and they're told, this is the MLB's area. MLB said, hey, Yankees, we're just letting these guys back in to defend their area? Are they going to wear uniforms
Starting point is 00:58:32 this time? Are they going to wear full-on costumes? What do you think this is going to be? You think this is going to promote others to do the same? Ah, yeah. Ban them. So these dudes are banned. They got refunded. The Yankees, though, I think said, you're allowed back tomorrow. Just take the night off. You guys got too ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Ty, is this where you, that they're not going to be in the building? Are the Dodgers about to win the World Series now, that that particular area is not going to be deed up by these two drunk gentlemen? I don't think so. I mean, I think everyone knows now, hey, if it comes in that area, you deed up, just like these guys did. Oh, they're going to pay tribute to these guys. I believe so. I don't know if that means grabbing Mookie
Starting point is 00:59:09 Betts' wrists and trying to break his wrists, jackknifing his glove open. I don't know if that's the route the fans are going to take, but also, let's not shed any tears. These guys are not going to pay for a drink in the Bronx or anywhere in New York for the next 10 years.
Starting point is 00:59:25 So you think we have a potential big Costco, little Costco, Rizzler situation? Like who are they going to give their tickets to? Who are they going to buy those tickets? Who's going to buy those tickets? Do you think it's going to be little fat drunk guy that jackknifes gloves and little guy who defends area as well in there? You think their kids are going to come in and carry the torch here or no? I could see that. I could also see them pulling the guy who had the sliding glove
Starting point is 00:59:48 on, maybe having him slide down. Hey, it's your moment now, okay? You're wearing the Evo Shield sliding glove, which you don't see a whole lot of that. I mean, people like to shit on people for wearing receiver gloves, the football games. Wearing a sliding glove into the game is next level.
Starting point is 01:00:04 So maybe it's like, hey, now it's your time to shine. You slide down. You get that glove in there. And, you know, maybe smack Mookie in the face with it if he comes over. This is your area. This is your area. D it up. Defend it.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Okay? There is a sliding glove on the left side of the screen right there. Legend. Just in case you get out on there. You never know. You never know. You seriously never know. Give the tickets to Punishment Martinez.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Are you kidding me? Give them to Damien Priest and if anybody comes near you, I'll send them to the south of heaven. They should have a little area back there. Damien sets them up and puts them down. That's not a bad idea either. Good luck to all parties, including the... I mean, look at the...
Starting point is 01:00:41 What a great still shot. The double chin. The grin. The double chin and mean the guy the grin yeah the double chin and the grin yeah trying to win jackknife in that uh hand of mookie bets and then raking his his wrist while tag team partner comes in goes don't you try to defend yourself mookie get the what are you it's our area i get you let me get you the rest he put his i told him it's our area i told him at the beginning of the game. It is kind of over the... Oh, yeah. It's in their face.
Starting point is 01:01:08 That's why it's a great catch. You think you're just going to take a ball from our area? Give me anything. I mean, the guy next to the dude with the hand shield is shocked, too. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Top left corner right next to the five there. He is...
Starting point is 01:01:23 Pride open. Pride open. Pride open. No, I think he's saying it's not good. Top left. He is. Pride open. Pride open. Pride open. No, I think he's saying it's not good. I can't believe they're doing this. The slide glove guy loves it. Very much. Loves it.
Starting point is 01:01:31 He doesn't complete the catch. He doesn't complete the catch. That's on him, not on us. Thank you, Spencer Jack. World Series in New York. What else could you expect? What else could you expect? That pitch is going to be in so many sports bars in New York.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Including his bedroom. right around the roof. See that? They come back. Boy. Because of these boys right here? They're going to put his face on a plaque in Monument Park if they come back and win the World Series. Do you think they're doing a watch-along somewhere in the city?
Starting point is 01:02:00 Come watch the game with the boys who are banned. The bad boys. They should be. Probably bring your ball mitt. He'll jackknife that thing open, too, for five. The bad boys. They should be. Probably. Bring your ball mitt. He'll jackknife that thing open, too, for five bucks. That's like his move now. Yeah. Put you on a wrist lock.
Starting point is 01:02:10 You've got to have a glove on first, though. Exactly. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler's here. D-Butch, how you doing, pal? I'm doing great. What do you think big news is of the NFL? What do you think it is? We've kind of hit it.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah, obviously. Obviously, what's happening here in Indy. A lot of people talking about it. A lot of people. Everybody that's in football has talked about it. Yeah. Because I think everybody in football says this cannot become
Starting point is 01:02:28 what our sport is. People are worried about the rule change being that is. And every position is different. Every position is different. The quarterback position, though, is one where you're treated different, you're paid different,
Starting point is 01:02:42 you're supposed to act different. And it's like every person that's been around football has had the same reaction. Yeah. Literally. People that I haven't even heard of pop on a podcast. I'm like, well, I wonder what this person said. They haven't been around the game
Starting point is 01:02:54 or talked about the game in 20 years. Can't have it. Can't have it. Oh, okay, somebody I don't normally agree with who's talking in no microphone. Can't have it. But then you got all the people that maybe never played but are fans of the game they're like what's the big deal it just was tired go take a breather one play you don't get tired yeah exactly and i do i was a punter and if
Starting point is 01:03:14 i was to tap out after a punt that's what happened that is literally how it goes but there's a reason my contract at max would be two and a half million bucks three million bucks and that's very high for a punter usually it's like four we're talking 60 million dollar guys here this is your general this is your ceo this is can't be waving a white flag ever which is i assume a bigger part of the story about everything that's happening day to day too yeah and now he gets a chance to learn from joe flacco watch joe flacco operate because we don't even know if he got a chance to watch Gardner last year because he had surgery so early.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Was he in the building? I have no idea. I have not asked the question. But did he even get a chance to see how a team is run every single year, how a player, a quarterback is allowed to operate? Watch Joe Flacco for a year, come back better, stronger on the other side, and let Joe Flacco maybe spin it and let's win some games for the Indianapolis Put it in your back pocket.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Move forward. It's a huge, huge learning experience. And this is what, you know, heavy as a head. You know, obviously these quarterbacks are making 50, $60 million for a reason. And this is some of the shit
Starting point is 01:04:11 that comes with it. We've all had to learn hard lessons. It's a hard lesson for him. Obviously in front of everybody being a franchise quarterback. So you hope he learns from it. And obviously you hope the
Starting point is 01:04:21 coach, you know, are better for it going forward. To be clear, though, getting rich is cool, Anthony. Getting wealthy, cooler. That's your next deal. Now, to get that next deal, I mean, I guess you don't have to do much with the way these deals have been going. No kidding.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Maybe Anthony was on a race. Win eight games. That's on us, I guess. Maybe we're just talking completely out of pocket. You win one. You throw four picks in one half of a playoff game. Come back and win that thing. We'll get you $50 million.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah. You kind of just need to throw for like 3,000 yards once. Just do it one time. You've got to show that you can maybe do it, and then you'll get that. So maybe we're wrong in that whole thing. But as Colts fans, which I certainly am, it's like this lesson, I think, makes us better going forward for him. Everybody's saying he's got to play to develop.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I think there's a lot that maybe has to kind of develop the position. At Florida, he was, I assume, king. For sure. And they didn't win a lot of games, I don't think, but did he get a chance to learn what it is to be a quarterback? You are the general manager
Starting point is 01:05:22 of this team, this locker room. We go how you go. Like that is ā€“ and you got to go like in a way ā€“ if you want to win, there's been a way that everybody that wins does it. And that's what everybody's expecting from a franchise quarterback. And that's what everybody's hoping for. You are still young enough that we can get you to be this guy, which I think everybody's hoping.
Starting point is 01:05:39 It's a lot that happens outside of playing, you know, on Sundays. Meetings, walkthroughs, you know, like you mentioned, him being away from the building last year as a rookie. Now this kind of being out, everybody's saying still his rookie year. You still get all those reps now against the scout team. Still get reps. Still learning. Just kind of almost like another redshirt year.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And I learned a lot from my redshirt year in college. So hopefully he learns. And once again, learns from it, goes forward, be better. That a baby AR. Proud of you. Proud of the comeback you're about to show. I mean, you mentioned it yesterday, too. Second contract's cool, but third contract,
Starting point is 01:06:08 he's 22 years old. If he puts the work in and gets that third contract, quarterbacks might be making $125 million a year at that point. With the science that they have now, in nutrition and everything, he could play until he's 40-plus. Who knows what it'll be? Back in the day, it was like, if you make it to 35,
Starting point is 01:06:23 you're an old man or whatever. Now I know there was a 50-year-old that played George... Blanda. B will be. Yeah, for sure. Back in the day, it was like, if you make it a 35, you're an old man or whatever. Now I know there was like a 50-year-old that played George. Blanda. Blanda. He played for a long, long time. But these quarterbacks are playing 40, 45, especially if you can spin it. Yeah. And he can spin it.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Doesn't know where it's going. He's going to have to work on that all the time, which young quarterbacks have to work on. But he can throw the ball. He obviously is physically capable to do everything he would have to do. We gotta you know become your bro your bro that is what it has to become you can't be tired first of all so you can be tired that's gonna happen but you can't be exhausted in the middle of a season and then you can't think that it's okay to tap out then you can't think it's okay to say yeah i was tired get over and then smile while saying it. It's like, oh, my God, dude. Bad move.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Teammates have done a good job, a great job, in my opinion, on the outside at least, you know, being good teammates, you know, not burying them, obviously having conversations, I'm sure, uncomfortable conversations behind closed doors. I think, you know, Coach, and this was more than the facility. This was more than just the tap-out play. He said it didn't have anything to do with it. Obviously, it did.
Starting point is 01:07:29 But the play on the field as well. You know, you got to be accurate. You got to be aware of situations in the game. Big part of the quarterback. He has the skill set, no doubt about that. Just got to learn all the other shit. Being a pro. Yeah, these young quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And we got a 12-year NFL vet who was a center and dealt with offenses, obviously, on a very regular basis. A.Q. Shipley. A.Q. Shipley. A.Q. Shipley. There was a tweet about all these younger quarterbacks in bench, pretty much, and Anthony Richardson is the most recent one. Now, there's been some non-successful tries for a lot of these guys. There's been some success, but, like, all these young quarterbacks, you know, what's that? You don't like the way it's that? You don't like this? You don't like
Starting point is 01:08:05 the way it's working? What the fuck is this? They're all first-rounders, D, but they're all first-rounders. It's the tough position. It's the hardest position in sports. Of course a lot of people aren't going to be good, and if you look at this list, I mean, Justin Fields still got a shot.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Bryce Young maybe still had a shot. Anthony Richen as well. I think a lot of people with a lot of these quarterbacks on this list, there's a lot of people probably saying, hey, they probably won't be great. This tweet pissed me off, D-Butt. Why did it piss you off? Because they're saying that these guys have no chance? Why did it piss you off, Don?
Starting point is 01:08:38 No, it's because it's making excuses for people. Oh, this is the NFL's fault. They can't develop guys. Maybe some guys just can't cut it at the quarterback position. Your problem is with that bottom one. The NFL has a QB development problem. Yeah, because I looked it up. I think there's like 14 guys who are 27 or younger starting.
Starting point is 01:08:54 So are they all great? No. But do they have a quarterback development problem too? Or is it just some guys? It's the NFL. It's a hard position. Some guys just aren't going to cut it. It's very hard, but everybody just assumes everybody's going to work out. Will Levis also got hurt. He was never benched.
Starting point is 01:09:08 He stunk when he was in there. No. Geez. Lots of time for Will. Geez. They got the Titans. We're going to go this year. He's giving us entertainment every week.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Every week. The biggest thing is the college game. We have said this over and over again. The college game does not prepare these guys for the NFL. And then we hand them a ball. Not all. Some college games. A lot of them. I mean, almost 90% of them because all you care about in college is winning, right? Like it doesn't, you're
Starting point is 01:09:31 not trying to prepare that kid to play in the NFL. The NFL game's completely different than the college game. So whenever you sit there and you throw this kid out there to win games in college, that's what he's meant to do. He goes and wins games in college. Well, you can win games in college not going through and understanding coverages and not understanding a bunch of the stuff that goes into winning an NFL game.
Starting point is 01:09:49 And so when you get put in this thing and you get handed a first-round pick and $50 million or whatever it is, it's like, hey, here it is. Hey, we didn't teach anything in college on how to do this at this level, but you've got to go out and do it. So, once again, sitting back, hopefully learning a little bit, watching it go and taking some reps will be good for Anthony Richardson, but there is a chance. And I'm not saying this about AR because the amount of talent he has in 2024, I don't see how you waste it.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I don't see how you waste it, legitimately. Natural, freaky athletic talent that nobody else has. I don't know how in 2024 it's allowed to just get wasted. So I don't think that's going to happen. I think he's going to be great, but mental reps are a real thing. Those are very much a real thing. If he's going to happen. I think he's going to be great. But mental reps are a real thing.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Those are very much a real thing. If he's able to get them and watch it and then also develop, whether it's next year or end of year, I guess, or whenever it is, it's like there's still a lot of hope for Anthony Richardson. Still very much a lot of hope. And I think people are saying that we were saying that he's done. It's like, no. Not at all.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I don't think that's the case. I just don't think now is the time, especially with the team that the Colts have. Colts have a team. And I think a lot of people in national media don't think that. I don't know why. Colts have a team. Yeah. They can give problems to anybody. For sure.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Legitimately give problems to anybody. In a couple plays, they're winning. Now, I know Dan Orlovsky said two inches off on a couple throws, which is certainly the talent that Anthony Richardson has. But it's like Joe Flacco goes in there, shows how to do winning football, how to be a pro in everything, and also breaks down what he's thinking about in these plays and these situations. It's like that's incredible development for Anthony Richardson too,
Starting point is 01:11:16 which I assume he's never had in his entire life. Now, granted, on-field reps is what everybody wants. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who's in an attic in Ohio, but the school that he is a Hall of Famer at actually produced a quarterback that just got dropped in the NFL and played better than he did in college. Ladies and gentlemen, Ohio State legend A.J. Hawker. Hawker, obviously this conversation is a big one because we're in Indianapolis, but it has kind of captivated every person and encapsulated every person
Starting point is 01:11:44 that has ever really been around the game because it's so abnormal to see especially with somebody like Anthony who has so much hope and so much promise and so much ability and then you see something and you're you naturally start thinking more like if he's willing to do that and then just say he's tired what else I think is what everybody that is in football thinks it's like maybe this is a trajectory changer for him that can end up being very good for the Colts long term yeah it could be like a a wake-up don't you think like oh wow actually like this this game can kind of be taken away from me very quickly that that may be
Starting point is 01:12:14 part of it you would think the injuries as well we could add to that but he's definitely no one's saying he's done he's definitely another chance on the Colts and if not the Colts somewhere else like he has so much talent. There will be plenty of teams that want to use his talent if it's not the Colts eventually down the road. Nick Morata told me that Anthony Richardson just said that head coach Shane Steichen didn't necessarily explain why he won't be starting anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Great, this guy. Put him in front of a microphone. Yeah, and that's part of the problem right there. It's like mentally can he handle this as to what it is. Being a quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, like it's a lot. And handling this. You are a PR, you are a.
Starting point is 01:12:50 A face. You're a president of a company. Yeah, yeah. Like a billion dollar. Yes. You're a fan. You're the face on the side of a stadium. And then after what just happened, you know, with the interview, you think this time.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Now granted, it sucks for him, but there's been a lot of quarterbacks that have been in this position have been put in front of the microphones before it's like all these things are part of i mean fields we just saw with justin fields and what did justin fields say unreal he was unbelievable like hey if i played well enough this wouldn't be a conversation i didn't play well enough and he was four and two yeah it's i think people see like other positions and what they say and how they say, you know? The quarterback position is just different in the game. And I think that's what some Colts fans don't know that have been, like, attacking me for saying these things publicly.
Starting point is 01:13:36 But also, like, I think this is separating people that know that and don't know that. And hopefully, you know, some people just realize now, like, hey, the reason why these big deals happen is because the amount of pressure that are on quarterbacks to be the perfect person in the building. We need you showing up first. You got to set the example. Treatment, you got to be in there. In the weight room, you got to be in there going full speed. You got to get to know everybody on the team.
Starting point is 01:14:01 You got to be friends with everybody on the team. You got to be the note taker. You got to be the example to everybody because that's what you are. You are leading the team. You've got to be friends with everybody on the team. You've got to be the note-taker. You've got to be the example to everybody because that's what you are. You are leading the team. We are going as you go. Jonathan Taylor, very important to the Colts' success. Very important. But he got into a fight. He got paid $10 million.
Starting point is 01:14:16 $13 million. There's a reason because that's the running back. Michael Pittman, very important. He's a dog. DeForest Buckner, very important. He's a dog. Zaire Franklin, very important. Kenny Moore, very important. Ryan Kelly a dog. DeForest Buckner, very important. He's a dog. Zaire Franklin, very important. Kenny Moore, very important. Ryan Kelly, Quentin Nelson. Once again, I'm saying all these names are good football players. They're all on the team and have been on the team.
Starting point is 01:14:32 They're important. The quarterback is the person. That is the person. So whenever this type of thing happens, hopefully they're able to change it. Joining us now is a guy who I assume has some opinions on this. Sure. This whole situation happened. I saw him do it a lot when he was playing.
Starting point is 01:14:47 He did, didn't he? Yeah. It was either this or this. Let me get one here. Ladies and gentlemen, Jade's Watt. Yeah, Jade. Go ahead, Jade. Do it.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Do the. Hey, hey, hey, fat ass Connor. I didn't tap out. What? Whoa. You did all the time. Oh, this is the second time you've called Connor. You don't talk shit on me.
Starting point is 01:15:06 You don't talk shit on me before I come on the program. You don't talk shit on me before I'm on the program. You're talking to my face. That's right. I don't tap out. How come we didn't see you on offense as much as I want? Oh, too tired? Too tired to score touchdowns?
Starting point is 01:15:19 Oh. Did you see on third and one on your own 20? I know that. I'm just going to relax. Yeah, tap it out. Tap it out of this debate. Smart idea. Middle of the game.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Very important part. Jage, I heard, I think, Will Anderson on a podcast. He said, I think it's a testament to our Houston Texans defense that this happened against us, you know, and how exhausted he was running for his life, how tired he was and everything like that. You're a Houston Texans fan. You're on the Houston Ring of Honor.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Obviously, you're a hero down there. You guys drafted a guy named C.J. Stroud. He has the greatest rookie season of all time. Now you guys are off and running. Okay, he's a little bummed out. A little bummed out. About Stephon Diggs right now, He's a little bummed out. But Colts, we're taking a different
Starting point is 01:16:07 path right now to our franchise QB that I still very much believe in in the future. What was your thoughts when it all took place? And how do you feel about it? What's your problem? It doesn't sound like you believe it. I'm not going to lie. I've watched the show. It doesn't sound like you believe it.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I do. I think it's an opportunity. It doesn't sound like it. I'm do i think it's an opportunity i think it's opportunity it doesn't sound like it i'm a fan of the show uh tune in and also follow you on the twitter grams you doesn't seem like you're a fan there's opportunity there's opportunity his comments just now were not great you know he had an opportunity there to kind of i got a question about pat you would know better than anybody inside the colts building, everybody does, obviously, I have respect for everybody in the NFL, but before every press conference, whether it's after the game, especially with the quarterback, or it's during the week, especially after what happened on Sunday,
Starting point is 01:16:57 speaking about everything, the PR people say, hey, these are some of the questions they might ask. These are how you might handle those questions. This would be our suggestion. Do they have that person? Yeah, Jage. Yeah. We got a PR guy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:11 He's good. Yeah, he's kind of a fool. No. He's good. Doesn't sound that good. He's good. I'm just wondering, man, because like the quarterback, you just said it.
Starting point is 01:17:21 The quarterback is the face of the team. It's your franchise. It's everything. Sunday, clearly after the game, he said he was tired. I personally respect him being honest about it. The quarterback is the face of the team. It's your franchise. It's everything. Sunday, clearly after the game, he said he was tired. I personally respect him being honest about it. I've never seen a situation ever where a quarterback tapped out from being tired, but I personally respect that he was like, I'm not going to lie about it. I'm just going to do it.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I think he should have lied about it. I do think that he should have. But two days later, or three days later, I do think between then and now, you know, the PR person should have a conversation right before he steps out and especially after he's been benched and say, like, hey, this is a tough situation. This is what they're going to ask you. Don't say that the coach didn't tell you why you're being benched.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Like, you got to ā€“ They probably have, though, J. Don't you think they probably have? Or at least have a plan if they ask you this question. Like, have something in mind, I would imagine. Definitely. For sure. Definitely have.
Starting point is 01:18:13 But they can't speak for him. They're not speaking for him. Well, it's PR, yeah. I don't know. Watch it! I just don't know. You know him. Good question.
Starting point is 01:18:20 That's the question. Exactly. Fair question. I do know him. What's your guys' deal? You don't like Conti? Conti's good. Conti's a good man.
Starting point is 01:18:27 He is a good guy. I'm a big fan of yours. Conti 1,000% did what you said that everyone else did. I don't doubt that. I know. They have a tough job. They're literally trying to get all of us. I mean, young guys, 22, 23, 24-year-old guys, they're like, hey, this is going to go to
Starting point is 01:18:42 the whole world, man. Maybe think a second before you answer. And then you're a 22, 23-year-old guy, and you're like, yeah, this is going to go to the whole world, man. Maybe think a second before you answer. And then you're a 22, 23-year-old guy, and you're like, yeah, I don't feel like it. And then you just go out there and you just say some stuff. And then they have to deal with all the backlash, and then they have idiots like me coming on saying, hey, don't you do your job? Chad, you're not an idiot. Every now and then I am.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Every now and then I am. I was an idiot when I was trying to figure out if one foot twice counted as two feet on Monday night. We all were. I felt like a on Monday night. We all were. I felt like a real idiot there. We all were. We're all real idiots, too. Just kind of put a whole bow on this. Here's my question on the Colts situation.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Do you think the Colts are a Super Bowl team this year? Do you think they can win the Super Bowl this year? You tell me. What do you think, Judge? I personally don't. I think they're a very good team. I do think Flacco gives them the better chance to win games right now. I don't think they're a Super Bowl winning team this year.
Starting point is 01:19:30 And for me, if you were going to go that route, then you have to move to Flacco earlier than this. That's my opinion. Because right now, I think the only way you go to Flacco today is if you truly believe you can win the Super Bowl this year. Because otherwise, you have to figure out what you have with Anthony Richardson long term. You have to let him grow. You have to let him develop.
Starting point is 01:19:50 There is such an epidemic in the NFL right now of ownership and coaches trying to get a young guy to play at such a high level so early, which, yes, we all want to. We would love if everybody came in and played like C.J. Stroud or Jaden Daniels. It would be incredible. But we're churning through these young guys so fast. If you are in a situation where you are rebuilding an organization or you're drafting a young quarterback to build around, you better understand what situation you're in.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You better understand that that might not be Super Bowl in year one or year two, but that guy could develop longer term. You look at Josh Allen's beginning of his career. He didn't exactly start out great that guy could develop longer term. You look at Josh Allen's beginning of his career. He didn't exactly start out great, but you develop over time. You grow. Some of these guys need a little bit of time to step in and grow and learn and have growing pains. We expect everybody to be great right now. We expect instant gratification today. And that's just not the fact. You judge me off my first 10, 11 games in the NFL. I should have been benched. I should have, I should not be in the league.
Starting point is 01:20:46 If I was a quarterback playing the way I played, I never would have made it to where I am because somebody would have benched me because I wasn't playing good enough. But I could get through those growing pains. I could learn. I could understand what it's like at the NFL level, how you have to play these offenses, everything that they do. So it's so hard with everything we're asking these young quarterbacks to do. And then when they don't do it within their first four or five, six weeks, we're like,
Starting point is 01:21:08 nah, move on next one. And then you look at Bryce Young's situation, you take him out and then Andy Dalton gets hurt. Now he's got to go back in and try and figure it out. It's really, really hard with how much pressure we put on these guys so early. And I get it, multi-billion dollar business, you have to, but what happened to growth? What happened to development? What happened to a little bit of accountability as a coaching staff to help this guy grow and become the best version of himself? That's what a coach does. It's not just automatic every time.
Starting point is 01:21:34 You're supposed to develop him. That's your job. Yeah. What happens if they know, though, not a guy? You think you know 100% sure after nine games in the nfl i'm not saying this i'm not saying anthony you're talking we're talking about the whole situation i'm not talking about anthony richardson i'm just talking about whole what happens if they know and what if they're wrong i guess it's certainly a thing but what if they like that's the the other side of it you know
Starting point is 01:21:59 like that is if you truly don't believe that he's your guy then you move on then you literally completely move on and you don't do this little back and forth thing you don't you move on and you are moved on because because now at some point they're going to put him back in i mean whether it's this year whether it's next year i mean joe flacco great quarterback he is clearly not the colts long-term plan and i would imagine that they're going to give anthony richardson another shot at some point definitely but if they truly don't believe he's the answer then you better move on right now like you better say hey we missed move on the brock purdy trey lance situation yes is like sitting right here for comparison just like the josh allen anthony richardson stats are potentially comparison but these are vastly different situations just context of it all
Starting point is 01:22:39 i think anthony missing last year like last year as much as he did and i don't know if he even was in i don't know he got injured surgery big time surgery season ending surgery how much is he around i don't even know if he got to like do any of his rookie year like any of his rookie year so then if they're viewing this year as like his actual rookie year like having a vet play and watching if during your rookie year might work for drake yeahoby potentially. Worked for Patrick, obviously with Alex Smith in the past. The Jordan Love. Yeah, like all these things. There's situations of it. It just all depends on whether or not he works out or not. But you're right. I agree with what you're saying, though. I think we do need to give young guys opportunity. But man,
Starting point is 01:23:20 it's tough, I think, if you're a coach. I just believe you have to have a plan as an organization going in. If you're one of these a coach. I just believe you have to have a plan as an organization going in. If you're one of these organizations drafting a rookie quarterback, you have to say before that draft, okay, if we draft this guy in the top five, we are giving him X amount of games. We're giving him a year and a half. We're giving him two years. However long you're going to give him, give him that.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Don't have him come in and then just because he's not playing the way that you want to play in the first four or five games, be like, ah, we got to figure it out. You need to know before you do that, we have the team to be a Super Bowl team, so if this guy doesn't do it, we're going to move on to our backup quickly, or we're going to let this guy develop. This middle ground wishy-washy
Starting point is 01:24:00 shit sucks. You think Joe Flacco beats the Texans the other day? I mean, it was definitely... We won that game, but you look at the end of the first half alone, that end of the first half
Starting point is 01:24:15 with the pick and then the touchdown, that alone could have changed it. I'm not even saying Flacco or not Flacco. That game was a much touchier day. Yeah, they were number one in the AFC South. We beat you guys. Can you win a Super Bowl? Can we get a home playoff game that we haven't had in a long time? Can we win a division?
Starting point is 01:24:32 I think so. With how Houston's playing, with what Jacksonville's so picking and choosing when you're going to win, when an opportunity is sitting right in front of us that we can win, is a whole other added element behind it all. And, Jage, I know you... Hey, let the guy at the Indianapolis Colts, let him ā€“ what are we doing?
Starting point is 01:24:48 Let him play out there. Take your time. Let him go out there. You know, let him learn his ā€“ Hey, I don't care anymore. We're 2-0 against you guys. You do whatever you want. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Okay. Okay. All right. It doesn't matter to me. But it is ā€“ it's very different because I think even going into this year, it's like this is Anthony Richardson's rookie year. Like that's how it is. Last year I think we got a chance
Starting point is 01:25:05 to see what it could be, but he didn't play enough football and he didn't make it from one week to the next without something happening. It was electrifying every time. This year was basically his rookie year. There's been plenty of times whenever your rookie year you have somebody else play. If that person can lead you to a playoff like Alex Smith
Starting point is 01:25:21 did with the Chiefs, secured a home playoff game with the Chiefs and did that entire thing, and then he'd move on to the next one. As long as, you know, everybody's on board, and as long as everybody's doing everything right behind the scenes, too. You know, it's like being out of shape week eight. Which we don't see any. That's what we don't get to see any of that.
Starting point is 01:25:38 That's why the coaches and GMs, they know way more than we do. They know, like, day to day what it looks like, I guess. I'm sure that has to have a huge impact on this. Yes but yeah i mean the tap out was tough the tap out was tough like that's just the tough i mean lamar jackson runs all over the field every single week takes all sorts of hits and everything like maybe i'm forgetting a time i just i don't i've never but this right here is electrifying that right there it's awesome yeah is all and that's where the hope is you know what i mean that's like the crazy part right there is he had a perfect excuse if you want to he took a hit to the knee right there you just stay down
Starting point is 01:26:13 for a couple extra seconds sell it you like sell it too sell it limp a little bit and then and even if you go to the sideline for a play because the knee it was third and goal 20 if he goes just need to do one goes, just need you to do one of these. Just need you to do one of these. They wave the trainer off. Check it out real quick. I'm good. Man, there's so many different tactics.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Once again, learning lesson. This is all a learning lesson, hopefully, going forward. And then all of a sudden, we'll see who the kings of the AFC South are for our next 10, 20, 30 years. That's right. You know, with the way moderns play. That's where after the game, somebody's got to be like, hey, if they ask you, I just took that hit to the knee.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Took that hit to the knee. Just had to check it out. They reported you're out of breath. Definitely say you were at the stage because you landed weird, but also a little thrown out. No, right to the knee. You came right back in, remember, right afterwards. Tough son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Came right back in. You bounced right up to him. Wants a win. You know, that's all good things. All right, let, remember, right afterwards. Tough son of a bitch. Came right back in. Bounced right up to you. Wants a win. You know, that's all good things. All right, let's move away from that. Let's talk about your Houston Texans. Big game tomorrow night against the New York Jets to kick off week nine of the NFL season. You guys are underdogs, I do believe, in New York.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. You've got to be shitting me. What? What's that about? Are you kidding me? You guys are banged up? Change. It's putting Cayenne in his water now, brother.
Starting point is 01:27:32 You've got to be kidding me. Brother. This is what the hell does Vegas know that I don't? This is what they know. This is what they know. Primetime. He's back. Primetime.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Is he going to be on the jumbotron i can't hear you where are you at i fucking can't hear you J-E-T-S Jet, jet, jet Oh That's what it is, brother. They're bringing him back. They took him off the jumbo trunk for a couple weeks. Him, Scott, Nick.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Everybody took all boys off to take him back there. Jet Life Stadium, you think it's going to be easy to play at? No way, brother. Oh J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets. Oh, J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets. Quads are looking strong up there, brother. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Quads are looking strong. Thank you. Yeah, a lot of stare. Underdogs. Yeah, didn't see that coming. Could be wrong, but I don't think I am. So what are your thoughts on why do you think that's the case you think the jets have nothing that can beat the houston texans tomorrow you
Starting point is 01:28:49 guys don't have stefan digs i think no i didn't say that i just i just look at the facts i mean i guess if you're if you're trying to make the argument the other side um short week travel having to go away that always plays into effect but i mean if i just look at these two squads truthfully right now, obviously I'm slightly biased, but I just ā€“ I believe Houston Texans are the better team. It's just ā€“ Would you like to make a pick or a bet right there?
Starting point is 01:29:12 Yeah. Why? No. I thought about it, but that would end up very much on freezing cold takes if I did it. But, I mean, if I was a gambling man, I do feel strongly in this one. Listen, freezing cold takes is going to get you. Okay, that is.
Starting point is 01:29:27 No matter what. They're going to get you. When you're living in the paint, you're going to get dunked on every once in a while, pal. That's how it goes. Yeah, but I mean, I just like. Make it guaranteed. And this is obviously, we got the Jets and the Giants and all the primetime games and everything. We're sitting here at two and six.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I think we're starting to get a little flexy here. I think we're starting to get a little like, all. I think we're starting to get a little like, let's move on. We don't got to talk about it every week. Come on. Flexy Dexy, though, is really good out there. And his little dance he does. Let's start flexing some shit out here. We don't need to see this anymore.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Go ahead, AJ. What about the Fountain of Youth Thomas Morstead has given Aaron? I guess Water and Cayenne Pep, right? I thought that was something that my mom's friends used to do before spring break to try to lose a few pounds. What do you think? You never do this? Yeah, right out of the darkness, baby.
Starting point is 01:30:13 That's it. I mean, I'm going to do that today, actually. Then I might sign up for a team. Maybe that'll do it. Maybe? Okay. Is this a joke, man? Like, is this a joke?
Starting point is 01:30:22 Jake! What do you mean? What is wrong? Let's just, like, just go play the ball, man. Just go play the ball, try and get better, score some touchdowns. That's why he's drinking the cayenne pepper. Because he wants to play the ball for a long time. Trying to get better.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Come on, man. I'm so sick of all this talking about this shit. Like, it's not working. Like, a 2-6. Like, a 2-6. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:30:44 I know how it is. I've been there. I've been on really, like, I've struggled. I was on 2-6. Like a 2-6. I know. I know. I know. I know how it is. I've been there. I've been on really ā€“ I'm struggling. I was on a 2-14 team. I know exactly what that's like. So it sucks. All you want to do is go out there and win the game. You still have to answer the questions,
Starting point is 01:30:54 but you also don't have to, like, stoke the fire a little bit here. Like, let's just ā€“ let's just ā€“ I mean, they're 2-6. Like, Giants, whatever they are, 2-6 I think also. Yeah, but the Cayenne ā€“ We're talking about 2-6. We got teams out here. Yeah, they're 2-6. Like, Giants, whatever they are, 2-6, I think, also. Yeah, but the Cayenne Pepper. We're talking about 2-6. We got teams out here. They're 0-0. Oh, wait, did we send you some Cayenne Pepper with some water, Donner?
Starting point is 01:31:13 I have Cayenne Pepper. Everybody's got it in their kitchen. I think if that was the fountain to use, I have a feeling people would have figured it out by now. I have a feeling. Thomas Morstead's a big guy. I think a lot more people would have been doing it. Thomas Morstead went to SMU. I love Thomas Morstead.
Starting point is 01:31:24 He's great. He had nothing Morstead. He's great. Nothing wrong with him. He's what I came up with. No, it's just the theory. Whatever. Great. Good for him. Maybe it works. If it works, great. I'm taking a cayenne pepper
Starting point is 01:31:42 water drink. I'm hopping in a cold tub. I'm going to get in the hot tub.. I'm hopping in a cold tub. I'm going to get in the hot tub. I'm getting back in a cold tub. I'm getting back in a hot tub. I'm getting back in a cold tub. Then I'm going to get up. I'm going to do a breathing exercise.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I'm going to lay on a code red bed. Then I'm going to maybe roast some steaks. Sana? I'm going to do that while the steaks are on. Yeah. I'm going to make sure I kick all carbs out of my house. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:13 And I'm going to live forever. That's what Morstead's doing. Why don't you want to do that, J.H.? Why don't you want to do that? I actually do a lot of those things. I'm just not going to sit here and say that those things are going to win me football games. That's all. Jeez, James.
Starting point is 01:32:27 They may help me. They may be beneficial. But, I mean, if I'm on the football field, I need to execute my assignment. I need to do my job. I need to make sure that I'm doing everything to help win the football game. All the off the field stuff is great, but you need to play better football on the field to win the games. Well, maybe the cayenne pepper and water will reignite some youthful memories.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Yeah. And then some youthful plays. Wake them up a bit. And they'll be able to figure it out. Now, Nathaniel Hackett, who was with him whenever he was a youth, is still in the building. Remember, he didn't leave. So maybe there'll be a lot of youthful stuff happening. Thomas Morstead's feeling younger. He's still punting. He got drafted the same class as me. He's still doing it. That's right. Aaron Rodgers, 40 years
Starting point is 01:33:04 old. He's still doing it. Crushing. Cayenne pepper not getting me. He's still doing it. That's right. Aaron Rodgers, 40 years old. He's still doing it. Crush. Kyan Pepper now getting added to their... This is it. That's it. Fire coach solid. That's it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:33:11 They trade for Devon. Sprinkle it on the playbook. Maybe it'll pick the good plays if you like, like a Ouija board. Okay. Jeez Louise. This guy. You like Ouija boards, Jage? That is wild.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Never seen one. I still don't understand how they're supposed to work. People have to be moving them, right? It's ghosts. Stay away, spirits. It's ghosts. Stay away, brother. Sending you messages, brother.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Spooky. Anybody. You have to have three hands on it or something. Everyone has to have both hands on it when you're around. The third hand is the spirit. On what? This guy. Put your hands on
Starting point is 01:33:45 you know what it's on it's not a sausage pizza now let's get away from the more oval team what's that do what's that oh oh yeah call back christmas movie okay appreciate that sausage pizza that was good Classic It's Halloween That's the bumpest hands And the fragile Yeah What kind of costumes we got for Halloween boys See you tomorrow
Starting point is 01:34:16 Are you dressing up send us a picture Yeah I have a two year old absolutely Do you have a costume already prepared And I assume you paid a lot of money For a costume No I did not I ordered it off amazon and it does not fit so i've had to alter significantly you tailored a amazon costume i like that did you add so i didn't tailor it no i didn't tailor it well i guess i did myself i took scissors like the arm just does not fit period so i had to cut the sleeve up um i had to i'm woody i a toy story. Cole's going to be Buzz. I'm going to be Woody.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Kay's going to be Bo Peep. So I had to get my own cowboy hat, my own boots. But I'm going to try and fit the belt around and I got the bandana. But the shirt was a... Are you going to wear a little cowboy hat? Put a string on the back?
Starting point is 01:35:01 Yeah, a cowboy hat. Look out, Andy! Question for you guys. Curious about this, because we were going back and forth on it. If you're a husband, wife, and son dressing up as Toy Story, Woody, is it Bo Peep or is it Jesse? It's Jesse in our house.
Starting point is 01:35:18 We were trying to figure it out. They're an item. Yeah, they were sold next to each other, I think, whenever the first toys came out. Exclusive, brother. Okay, well, we're going as Woody and Bo Peep, so. Uh-oh. Kind of a weird situation. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:35:35 You guys Mormons? I've heard about that whole situation via reality television show. Woody and Bo Peep do bang, though, so I guess it does make sense in that manner. Yeah, you guys are swingers. It's all right, dude. Don't worry about it. It's Halloween.
Starting point is 01:35:46 You jacked Woody, dude. You can do whatever the hell you want, brother. All right, let's get back to some football, shall we? There was a quote that came out after the Giants and Steelers game that is awesome. Darius has a question for you. I haven't watched the film yet in detail, and I know you probably talked to your brother, Teej, but Jermaine Luminor made some comments before the game and then after the game was he was
Starting point is 01:36:07 TJ locked up out there now have you ever had experience where a young or old tackle kind of talk some shit in the media before playing you besides all that how was the play Mrs. Lincoln classic oh good throwback I mean what are we doing here man like
Starting point is 01:36:23 what are you doing you gave up? Like, what are you doing? You gave up the strip sack fumble that lost the game. Like, oh, my God. What's wrong? Like, what are we doing here, man? I'm just ā€“ can you ā€“ do you have ā€“ like, this is the thing that frustrates me about that. So, before the game, the guy says, I want to be on an island all along with TJ. TJ goes out there, has seven tackles, two sacks, four fumbles, strip sack,
Starting point is 01:36:47 wins the game. Guy was on an island on the play, one-on-one on the island. That's your job. Game on the line. Most important play of the entire game. You didn't do it. TJ after the game asked about it. Perfect opportunity where even I probably would have been like, he asked for it, he got it.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Do you have TJ's interview, Connor? Do you have that? No, we do not. We do not. But, oh, yeah, we do not have it. But you say you being petty and he not, I assume? But no, he said, yes, I heard those comments, but I respect everybody in this league.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Everybody's job is hard. Everybody has a difficult job. He just wants to do his job. He was extremely kind about it. And even I was like, oh wow that was that was very mature of you good job and then this guy the next you know two days later three days later comes out and says he locked him up all game well no you didn't you would have won the game if you locked him up all game so like in the play so hold on though so two sacks obviously you would assume that 60 plays 65
Starting point is 01:37:44 plays how many normally uh are there out there so if you get two sacks, obviously, you would assume that 60 plays, 65 plays, how many normally are there out there? So if you get two sacks, that's considered a massive day for a defensive end, right? Is that what he's talking about? Did you watch the film of this guy, A.Q. Shipley? I did. Do you remember what I said this morning? No, what did you say? I can't.
Starting point is 01:37:59 It was a bad take by this guy. Really? Against TJ? Yeah. I was actually going in there thinking, okay, he's going to be on an island all day. 90% of it was slide to him with the chip. There was four guys
Starting point is 01:38:12 literally in the vicinity trying to affect TJ. And then a ton of the plays going the other way, it was just run the other way so he has a one-on-one block backside. But that's the easiest block in football. You could just literally fall down. And if you ask to be on an island all day and you say you want to be on an island all day,
Starting point is 01:38:27 it's very easy to say that when you've seen the game plan and you know that your coach isn't going to leave you on an island all day. You also know that even on that play that won the game for you, you weren't supposed to be on an island. Your coach didn't believe in you so much that he came out after the game and said, no, we did not want him on an island.
Starting point is 01:38:44 He wanted somebody over there. Middle of the game, we decided actually, we did not want him on an island. Middle of the game. We wanted somebody over there. Middle of the game, we decided, actually, hey, wherever the hell this guy is, we got no islands. We got no islands on the wall. That was my biggest takeaway from watching that film. I think, Nick, I think you remember me. I was like, I don't even know what offense this is. They were literally running a completely different offense
Starting point is 01:39:00 because that's how much they were affected by that guy on the other side. So when somebody comes out and says this, they just have this short-term memory where they're like, oh, I killed the guy. I remember a lot of good plays against TJ. Just so they can get to the next week? Is that like a confidence-driven thing?
Starting point is 01:39:14 Why would you say that? I will say this about offensive linemen. This is a true and honest, fair assessment. It is very, very difficult for an offensive lineman because one sack could constitute a bad game for them, whereas one sack for a defensive lineman could constitute a great game. So if I have one great play and it happens to be on your one bad play and I get a sack, boom, I had a great day. I could have had a real shitty other 59 plays, but I had a great day. Vice versa, offensive lineman, let's call it one or two sacks two bad plays on the whole day could ruin your entire day could make people think you had a bad
Starting point is 01:39:49 day now I personally think this guy had a rough day in other parts as well yeah sure you blocked him like two or three times great job congrats but like the whole job of an offensive lineman and it's why it's such a difficult job is you have to do it every single play for the entire game that's what makes a guy like Lane Johnson so impressive when he doesn't give up quarterback hits or sacks or Trent Williams. That's what makes it so impressive because they do it consistently for the entire game. So for you to sit here and be like, oh, yeah, I only gave up two sacks today. Well, that's a shitty day.
Starting point is 01:40:18 I'm sorry. Yeah, that stinks for offense alignment. You got to have a ridiculous sense of confidence, just like corner. You know, you can have 58 great snaps. You have one bad snap in the fourth quarter cut this guy get rid of him on the flip side defense like you said you get a sack shit a sack of game you're in the hall of fame first ballot 17 a year that would be bananas if you're able to do that and all you're looking for is that one do you think your job much easier than offensive lineman i'll ask the offensive lineman first well to their point timing is everything too,
Starting point is 01:40:46 because now you're down seven or 10 in the fourth quarter, and now it's just pass fest, and they're in a jetted up stance, and it's pass after pass with no threat of run. Like that really goes into it, and then you give up one or two, and that thing has a tackle. But like, yeah, I agree. I mean, I think DJ Humphrey said this one time. He's like, I got to block the freakiest athlete on the other side
Starting point is 01:41:04 while I'm going backwards. Think about that for a second. Yeah, it's a tough time. He's like, I got to block the freakiest athlete on the other side while I'm going backwards. Think about that for a second. Yeah, it's a tough job. It's a tough job. But coming out with no awareness afterwards is certainly even tougher. It seems like this is a new thing. It seems like this is a new thing. I like that.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I love it. I do too. It's entertaining. Add some entertainment. That's for sure. This is what the election season has done. Exactly. Athletes see these people just get on microphones
Starting point is 01:41:25 just lying. That's what I'm going to do. Well, you're not allowed to. Everybody bought Anthony Richardson. We're going to fact check. We got the tape, actually. I've seen it. You're talking like we don't have film of the game.
Starting point is 01:41:39 We all watched it. And, oh yeah, we can go back and see how you did. How do you feel about Coach Debo after that game? That was interesting to me, man. It was interesting that he just came out and basically blatantly threw Daniel Jones under the bus. He was like, yeah, no, we were supposed to slide the protection over there and get the tight end over there to chip, and he just didn't do it. He feels really bad about it.
Starting point is 01:42:01 We just talked about it in the locker room, actually, and he does feel really bad about it. If you just talked about it in the locker room, actually, and he does feel really bad about it. If you just talked about it in the locker room, you spoke to him, you don't need to come out and tell the whole world that he screwed up on that play, in my personal opinion. I thought that was a little strange. I also personally thought at the end of the first half, something was very telling. They had a two-minute drive with like a minute 43 left. They had two timeouts, and they just got the ball. And they decided to run draws on back-to-back plays. Now, the third down play was a big pass. But what that tells me is if you're going to run a draw on the first two plays of a two-minute drive, when you have two timeouts and a minute 43 left, that means that you don't trust your quarterback or your offense.
Starting point is 01:42:38 You're just like, let's see if we can get anything out of this. And if not, we'll just move on. And that was very telling to me. But then also coming out after the game and saying, basically it was 100% the quarterback's fault. Man. I just talked to him. People are just throwing people under the bus left and right.
Starting point is 01:42:53 He feels terrible out there. I just talked to him. He'll probably say the same thing to you. He feels bad. It's very evident. We're not like TJ, the one-on-one. He'll tell you. I just talked to him.
Starting point is 01:43:03 He's crying. He played well, too. Yeah, it was his fault. Yeah. He'll tell you. I just talked to him. He's crying. He played well, too. Yeah, it was his fault. Yeah, he lost us again. Again. I told him. I don't know if you guys see the hat. New face.
Starting point is 01:43:11 A little bit. I'm on top of my shit right now. It is a bit surprising that he did it. He was so blatant about that. He's sick of him. I just talked to him. This guy. He just told me all his fault.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Put it on himself. Cover his ass. I told Mara, too. Yeah, it was his fault. Yeah. I talked to Joe Shane in front of Mara. I told him he should tell him. He'll be in to talk to you after.
Starting point is 01:43:32 He's going to go upstairs and tell them. Mr. Mara, I just talked to Daniel Jones. He said 100% his fault for sure, and he's going to come tell you that, too. I just wanted to let you know that I told you that, that he knew, that he told me that he knew. He feels terrible. But in a sense, he did say the two-point play wasn't Daniel's fault. He was very adamant about that. I don't believe it was his fault either.
Starting point is 01:43:50 It was somebody else's fault, but it wasn't Daniel. He made sure to not put the two-point. Table's like, that's not me. Obviously, I wouldn't do something like that. Somebody did out here. It's not Daniel, though. Now, what Daniel did do was that the game loser? Yeah, that was his fault.
Starting point is 01:44:03 100% him. Fool. Maybe Daniel just knew that our buddy wanted to be on the island. He was. That was his fault. A hundred percent. Fool. If you want to take it. Maybe Daniel just knew that, that our buddy wanted to be on out. He was like, Hey, he asked for the island.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Here's the island. In the huddle. You want it, right? This is the time you got it. All right. I'm not sliding. We got another person out.
Starting point is 01:44:18 All right. Sweet. Good luck out there, brother. This one I wanted. This one. Illuminor said in that same interview he was expecting chip help on that last play.
Starting point is 01:44:28 It never ends. These people. It never ends. I don't understand. But that's also, I gotta give credit. You gotta give credit to the other side. Alex Heisman had two sacks in this game. He's back from injury. He's healthy. That's what happens when you've got him on the other side balling, too. You
Starting point is 01:44:43 pick your poison. You wanna give it to TJ? Well, I guess in this matter, it doesn't matter. Your side balling, too. Like, you pick your poison. You want to get TJ. Well, I guess in this matter, it doesn't matter. Your poison's coming both ways. Hey, TJ was flopping there a little bit more than I'd seen him in the past. Yeah, it was the first time I've really noticed that as well. They're trying to do anything. They're trying to do anything to get some one-on-ones because his chip percentage, his double team percentage has been through the roof.
Starting point is 01:45:02 So, they're trying to do anything, and it's really nice to have highsmith over there who's falling himself did you like his uh stance on the other side or no we working on that this week what are we doing we were talking about so he had a couple nice rushes over there the one thing that i was texting him during the game that he he's got to work on because he's not used to it he's just purely not used to on that side is the top end of his rush when you're when you're ripping through or the guys Got you got your jersey The hardest thing to do is that final little get off so you can actually get the sack as opposed to a pressure And I think that's the one thing you just not as comfortable with on that side yet. He's got good rushes
Starting point is 01:45:36 It's just the finish that's he's got to get comfortable. So what's he got work on? He's got to work on he's got to put something in the house. That's sticking off the wall So he can yeah, just flipping your hips the other way because you think about it. He's always to put something in the house that's sticking off the wall. Get off me. So he can... Yeah, just flipping your hips the other way. Because you think about it, he's always rushing off one side. So you're always flipping your hips one way. You're constantly flipping your hips one way the entire time. You're used to it. You're comfortable.
Starting point is 01:45:54 On the other side, you're flipping your hips completely the opposite way. So the flexibility, the movement, the muscle mass, the muscle recognition is just different. Just need to put a couple things on the wall. That's all. Good work, guys. Get off of that. on the wall. That's all. Go ahead, work on this thing. Flip the hips. What do you do with them? What was that?
Starting point is 01:46:11 What's on your wall? It's DJ's wall, not my wall. I don't need to work on it. I think protruding out of the wall, like a long object. It's rubber, I think, because you don't want to hurt yourself. It can't be metal. You chop and you rip it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:22 Yeah, you chop and rip it. It bounces back every time. Get underneath. Yeah, dip on it. Put and you rip it. Okay. Yeah, you chop and rip it. It bounces back every time. Get underneath. Yeah, dip on it. Put the shoulder under it. And move your head out of the way as well. How about the stick? Yeah, you could.
Starting point is 01:46:32 You gotta. Yeah, exactly. Dunk your body. Stick and move. Stick and move. Yeah. Jeez. Don't be backing up another.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Oh, my God. You're the one who has eyes on the target. Eyes wide open. You know, we're the one with eyes on target. Eyes wide open. You're the one with eyes on target there. TJ, you want to get better or not? That's what I want to know. That's a fair question. That's all I want to know.
Starting point is 01:46:53 There was a magical play that we will talk about for the rest of the year, maybe for the next few years, between number one overall pick versus number two overall pick. Ty, this is a question for you. Yeah, Jage, what are your thoughts on just that whole Hail Mary in Washington? If you're on the Bears, how do you view Tyreek Stevenson, if you're one of the guys that was on defense when he was, you know, bumping his gums to the crowd?
Starting point is 01:47:18 He said he was just talking with Bears fans, celebrating, and then he realizes, oh, shit, these guys are already 40 yards downfield. I better go, you know, try to make sure they don't score a touchdown. And is this the type of play that can just absolutely break the Bears back and basically end their season? Yeah, I mean, I think this one's obviously, for good reason, been talked about a lot this week. And I think that I, I mean, he came out and apologized, rightfully so.
Starting point is 01:47:43 I mean, there's really nothing you can possibly say about it. I just, my favorite one is the fact that literally if he just stayed over there and kept talking shit, it would probably would have been a better outcome. If he just did not come back and tip the ball directly to Noah Brown, that it would have been better for him to just stay over there talking trash. My big thing, just like a lot of people's big thing, is the second-to-last play. These are situations that you work on literally every single week. Every single week you go through end-of-game situations.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Generally at the end of Friday's practice, you have a list of about 15 plays that you go through. Hey, we're going through all these scenarios. This is what we're going to do if we get into this spot, if we get into that spot. We generally have calls called orange, where on the second-to-last play, there's only six seconds left. You don't let them run an out pattern out of bounds to get more yards to set themselves up for a Hail Mary.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Clearly, they were defending a Hail Mary on that play, which would have been like a 90-yard, 80-yard Hail Mary, which is never going to happen. So I don't know what the goal of that was. You have to stop them. They could have taken care of this entire issue on the second-to-last play and never had to worry about this exact scenario. And the other crazy thing to me was Jaden had like 10 more yards to step up
Starting point is 01:48:52 if he wanted to. The ball was actually short. He could have stepped up 10 more yards to make the throw even easier, but it all worked out in the end. Short. I think it lands in end zone if it was to get to ground. But you're saying jump ball, it's definitely early. It was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Hell of a huck. Hell of a huck. of a huck hell of a huck what about yeah i mean you're only supposed to have one person jump for the ball debug correct me if i'm wrong but every i've always been taught there's only one person who should ever be jumping ball they had four yeah one should be one jumper everybody else boxing out ball you man what about the overall philosophy though i think uh it was vikings maybe detroit a few years ago where they sent pressure after the quarterback in this situation instead of you know playing the typical hair hail mary what's your thoughts on the overall philosophy with defense in this situation i personally being a pass rusher being a guy who who believes i can get to the quarterback in any scenario if we're only rushing two or three like most people do in their hail mary scenario
Starting point is 01:49:43 it's very very difficult everybody gets double teamed refs let them get away with holds we know that we see that right here um I like bringing five I like just bringing it trying to force them to make because the quarterback needs time the receivers need to get down the field the quarterback needs time to set up if you can just make him not comfortable then you're fine so I I like bringing pressure um I'm a guy that likes to bring five you want to bring the boom heat him up is that make him not comfortable, then you're fine. So I like bringing pressure. I'm a guy that likes to bring five. You want to bring a boom? Heat him up.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Is that what you want to do? You want to bring a boom? Yeah, yeah. Five big booms! Boom! Boom! Boom! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Five booms.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Yep, okay. Five big booms. Jimmy didn't love it, huh? Sounds good. I wasn't kidding. Did you notice, Jage? I don't. I'm staying out of this
Starting point is 01:50:24 because I feel like I could walk into a trap here. No, no, you're not. Big Costco, Little Costco, and the Rizzler were on Jimmy Fallon last night. And Jimmy Fallon, who is one of the greatest put-overs of all time, he'll buy into whatever. Listen, I want you to have a good time here. I want you to get out of this, whatever you want. And I want you to come back.
Starting point is 01:50:42 He has been like that since day one, I think. That is kind of his. With the Costco boys, he was not no he said no way he didn't no laughs turned heel turned heel we got five big booms boom and he goes okay yeah five boobs got it got it okay let's move to halloween it was unbelievable it was if actually if jimmy i gotta watch it i gotta watch if jimmy fallon turns heel going forward, I think we got a whole new Jimmy Fallon. That was hilarious. That was the hardest I've laughed at Jimmy Fallon in a long time.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Long, long time. He's a talented dude. If he goes bad guy, people come up there. Yeah, not funny. Never was. This is way funny. If he does that, there's going to be a lot of that because there's a lot of not funny
Starting point is 01:51:28 things. Movie Stunk. Watched it. Don't think you should be promoting. What were you thinking? He can't do that, obviously, but if he did, I'd watch. We're back tomorrow as week nine of the NFL season kicks off. Cheers. Grade zero, I think. No power outages today.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Yeah, it's huge. I had the ring. Then the ring was gone. Did you hear that, Jage? We had two power outages yesterday. Well, sorry. One power outage, one power surge. We had too much power and then not power at all. Two big booms, too, outside. Then we had the boom company come and they said, we don't see anything.
Starting point is 01:52:01 How long did it take to get regulated? I think it was like a 30 second recharge that happened but we got um unaltered power sources unaffected on ups is what's called they're on you put them on like a power thing so they are a uh like a dock of power energy that goes before you so if you lose power it still powers so that basically so we have all the show shit on these not a generator not a generous smaller than generate we also have a generator generator goes on for power outage actually power surge happens or power outage happens this thing kind of protects it keeps us going but boy we had a couple booms we had a
Starting point is 01:52:42 lot of lights off but weelt we were under attack. Felt we were under attack. Got a whole guy named Rick. Rick knows everybody. I'll tell you what. Rick's got this thing figured out. This is the quickest and most efficient I've ever seen somebody that is an expert on something show up at our Thunderdome and try to sort it out. Rick's a hero.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Power company gums. We didn't see anything. Like, all right. No, I mean, Indiana has to just, as soon as the McAtee show calls, everybody on a dime nope that is not the case that is not the case actually i don't even know if a lot of people know we exist here especially at certain uh levels that's not true that's not true well i know there's a lot of colts fans that know we exist because they're mad right now you got to be pretty pretty high on the chamber of Commerce list of people promoting Indiana. I'm struggling very hard to think of anybody higher.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Definitely promoting Indiana, which has become our home here. And they're incredibly kind and lucky to be here. But the people that are the business people of Indiana, there is a power broker. A lot of money here, actually. It's very centrally located. There's a lot of logistics companies here in town. So you got a lot of money., actually. People don't know. It's very centrally located. There's a lot of logistics companies here in town. So you got a lot of money. They've been doing it a long time. I don't know if they
Starting point is 01:53:50 have any respect for what we're running over here. I think that is. So that is potentially where we are in the totem pole of power over here. But Rick, this guy's got pull. Rick called the top of the company. He was like, hey, listen, we need to sort this. They had three trucks over here within 25 minutes.
Starting point is 01:54:07 It was unbelievable. It was great. So we appreciate AES coming by. Hell yeah. Now, they said we don't have any problems, which is a big problem, because we certainly had a problem. Yeah, without a doubt, obviously. So now we've got to figure out where it is. It's like Blue's Clues.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Yeah. That's what we're doing. We're kind of like, yeah. And one of the phrases that Rick said is, if it's not that, now we've got to go find the needle in a haystack. It's like Blue's Clues. Yeah. We're doing. We're kind of like, yeah. And one of the phrases that Rick said is, since if it's not that, now we got to go find the needle in a haystack. It's like, great. That's really good. Love hearing that.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Because all you need is one connection just being, and then whenever something comes through, then that sends through. It's like old school Christmas lights. Whenever one went out. That's right. They all went out. Whole thing. So that's where we're at, Jage.
Starting point is 01:54:41 It's fun running a company. It's great. It's great having a building. Yeah. Yeah. The experts got it figured out. Oh, yeah yeah the experts gotta figure it out oh yeah today we appreciate that thank you rick i will say it's better than the old office having a lever outside the building yeah any homeless guy could just turn off we've had power issues with this particular program for a long time that downtown office with the cartoon hand yeah kill switch yep red. Red. Painted red. Pull me. On the side of this big.
Starting point is 01:55:06 This big. That's how big it was. Walked by it. Yeah. It's just like, what's that for? No, wait. Might as well. Shut down the whole building.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Having like three times a week. What the fuck? Can we put a cage over that or something? No. No, no. At first. Nah, homeless guys love pulling it. So, you know. Cage could use as a D-Live-It thing.
Starting point is 01:55:26 That's why we decided to buy Own Place. Yeah, Teach could actually put that in halfway out there. Power on. Power off. Power on. Power off. Then power surge him flipping those hips. Yep.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Coming around. Oh. Yeah, that's what TJ does. Really. Really. Thank you. Really thrusted those hips there, big guy. That's what you said. He's got flipping. See, you. Coming around. Yeah, that's what TJ does. Really. Really trusted those hips there, big guy. That's what you said. He's got flipping.
Starting point is 01:55:47 See, you started bringing up the hips, and then obviously that led to everything else that was sticking on his walls, because we know how he likes to operate. He goes all in. He's committed. He told us that he turns on film, TV copy. Remember that?
Starting point is 01:55:57 Yep. Closes his eyes, sits in a room, and listens to the TV copy of the cadences. This dude's all in. I love it. You see him pre-gay? He brought Joy going nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:08 That was cool. That was cool. What's he saying in there? Have you ever heard one of his speeches? What's he saying? And did you do similar things? What did you say? I think that one, I'm not 100% sure, actually,
Starting point is 01:56:18 but I believe it's like one of those that's the same every week. I think it's like a we ride. One, two. Yeah. Three, four. I think that's why it fits so well with Joey Porter because he's been there. He knows it. That was the same thing I believe they do every week.
Starting point is 01:56:35 I'm not 100% sure. Joey did the who ride, we ride. Is that what they do right here? I have no idea. I think that's it. Yeah, I think that's this. Yeah, I believe that's it. Yeah, PZ used to lead it.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Okay, so this is the steelers by the way still call the same blitz packages from back in the day so whenever guys come around they can feel comfortable whenever they're talking to the current team open door policy it's like a college facility we keep the same chance same pre-game thing and that's what happens when you have continuity that's what happens whenever you you find your coaches and you're able to kind of pass it along. That Steelers place is special, man. It really is. There's others that are like that. I think there are others that are like that. But Pittsburgh is real deal. And TJ is the perfect guy. So good. He's this guy's a psycho obsessed with football.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Yeah, man, he's he's great. It's a lot of fun, man. It's the best thing to talk to him every week about it, to talk through the game, to talk through every single play what he saw what he was thinking um it's a lot of fun so nothing better to go into a bye week with a win a couple sacks go enjoy yourself how come he didn't have um ross on his chest like a baby bjorn when he got introduced we were wondering if that was going to be how he came on the field russell wilson baby bjorn like this obviously in front of him, with helmet on, and we think. Of course.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Like hangover, like Carlos. You get Carlos hanging out. Baby Carlos, yes, exactly. And then TJ comes out, does his little jump thing. And then Russ does the thing. It's like, here it is. Here's the Steelers. How come?
Starting point is 01:58:01 Did they think of that? Yeah, I think they did think of that, actually. I just didn't think. They couldn't find the hardest big enough. Well, I found one actually on the internet I sent in earlier. Somebody tweeted me and said, exactly what you were talking about right here, brother. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:58:18 that is exactly what I was talking about. Did you see that get sent into the group this morning, AJ? I have not seen that. What is it normally used for, though, other than introductions? So it's a Halloween costume. Exactly. You're right. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:30 I don't know. It was a Halloween costume, I guess. The adult-sized Baby Bjorn. I have never seen one, actually, in real life. That's what I'm saying. I saw it in a... There's some weird stuff out there, man. There's some weird stuff out there.
Starting point is 01:58:43 One of my favorite Sebastian... One of my favorite Sebastian Maniscal out there, man. There's some weird stuff out there. That's one of my favorite Sebastian Maniscalco bits, man. Before the internet, if you had some weird shit going on in your life, you just did that in your own basement. Nobody else knew about it. Now, we know everything. If you like to dress up as a baby, like as a grown adult, and you like to dress up as a baby,
Starting point is 01:59:01 now the whole world knows about it. Exactly. Right? That's it. That. We don't even know about this. That's it. That's Dallas Goddard. Yeah, that's Dallas Goddard. That's Dallas Goddard and his lady. Bingo.
Starting point is 01:59:14 TJ needs to call Dallas Goddard and say, hey, listen, need the baby Bjorn thing so that they can come out last on intro so when the Zambelli fireworks are going off, it's for the two stars of the team. That is what we need. Dallas Goddard could send that to Pittsburgh. That is no problem at all. Could you imagine? Oh my god. So, that place would go crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:32 I don't know if that necessarily matches up with the Steelers' culture. What do you mean? Being a team? I don't know. You saw TJ, what he does pre-game. And then Let's Ride. They need to add that in there.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Oh, my God. Who ride? We ride. Let's ride. Who ride? We ride. Let's ride. Yeah, Russ comes in at the end.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Let's ride. Perfect example of it, man. Russ doesn't have one of those catchphrases anymore. Like, the organization, they don't do that. Yeah, but you should think about bringing back let's ride now that we know who ride, we rides in there. Without a doubt. Because him sliding out of the circle each time and then back in, let's ride, and then back out.
Starting point is 02:00:11 That's what the Steelers are missing. I think we're about three weeks away from Russ having a full-on Pittsburgh accent. Let's go to Hammer. Don, Don, Don. You've been awfully quiet while we've been talking about all these ideas. What's going on? It's because I don't love them. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:00:26 I don't think the city would love it if they did that. You're right. It's not a big steel worker thing that you carry your buddy around on your chest. It could be. If you're trying to get him out of the mill. Yeah, what are you talking about? That's a different situation. That's fireman carry.
Starting point is 02:00:45 No, it's not fireman carry. If the mill's going down, you've got to get your buddy out, sure. I think it'd be cool. Save for the playoffs. What if it's Russell Wilson? Everybody understands. How about they hear everything they said in there?
Starting point is 02:01:04 You're welcome, boys. You're welcome. We're just brainstorming. Whatever I do. And then Russ carries Teej, though. Super Bowl, Russ carries Teej. Oh, yeah. And Teej is just doing that jump set.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Over and over. Butterfly. Press. Now, if Teej wanted to backpack Russ like what's his name? CT. Like CT did? Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:01:30 That's one of the greatest moments. They could do that cartwheel thing where you do like the double cartwheel where one person's up. Oh, yeah. Okay. You know which one I think? They should do the flip one. You know where the boom and then a boom.
Starting point is 02:01:44 Like a caterpillar. Russ can show them how to do it because you know him and then a boom like a caterpillar. Now you told me. Russ can show them how to do it because you know him and Sarah have done that at the house. I think I saw it
Starting point is 02:01:50 for a birthday post. Yeah, they were on the Clementi Bridge. It was nice. It was awesome. The what bridge? Clementi. Oh.
Starting point is 02:01:56 What did you think I said? Something different. We had a Scott Hansen situation this weekend when he was talking about the Terminator. Boy, oh boy. He called it
Starting point is 02:02:03 the Terminator, right? Yeah, that's correct. It was the Arnold part. Yeah, I know. I'm just wondering if that's just how he pronounces it. Oh, yeah. I had to be careful with that last name. Yeah, Arnold,
Starting point is 02:02:17 I didn't even really think of it until Scott's situation. That name does kind of put you in a little bit of a predicament. It's a longament wrong name yeah but it's not the whole name that's the you gotta go fast you just gotta go fast i think i'm just calling them yeah terminator term the terminator yep kindergarten cop yeah uh jingle all the way did he break it up like syllable by syllable is Is that what happened? Yeah, well, kind of quick in one part, actually.
Starting point is 02:02:46 And I don't know. The internet got him. That's not good. Yeah, well, Arnold, though. Yeah. How'd Miles do in that game, by the way? You talking about when he showed up as a Terminator? Yeah, he always dresses up so cool.
Starting point is 02:03:01 They won? It was cool. Yeah. He got the W's. Didn't he have like a 99 PFF? Yeah, he beat the Ravens. If he steps on the field, he gets that grade. That's an AP voter right there
Starting point is 02:03:12 which leads to day two Shipley's question for you, Jage. Yeah, JJ. Quick question. We are at the halfway point. Who is your midseason defensive player of the year at this point? Who's yours, AQ? It's gotta be Sexy Dexy. Really?
Starting point is 02:03:27 He's got 10 sacks as a nose guard. He does. He's a great player. What if their team's not good, though? Does it matter? I don't think it matters, right? We're just talking about individual. No, that's the dumb part.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Yes, that's the dumb part. Like, it is not defensive player on a good team. Correct. It's defensive player of the year. Who is the best player on defense? Dexter Lawrence is playing phenomenal football. It's unbelievable. I love watching him play. He's so player there who's the best player on defense Dexter Lawrence is playing phenomenal football it's unbelievable I love watching him play he's so strong he's so powerful but he still moves so well like he is a great great player he's certainly in that
Starting point is 02:03:54 conversation I mean I think I mean truthfully like it's it sucks so bad Aiden Hutchinson got hurt because he was playing such incredible football. Right now, if you were doing it today, he's literally still in that conversation even though he's missed a couple weeks already because of how good he was playing before this. That really sucks for him. Obviously, TJ is in that conversation. The game-changing plays just purely changing
Starting point is 02:04:18 the game. You find me a more valuable person than that right now. Here's AP Tone's Defensive Player of the Year watch list thus far. Xavier McKinney, who had five straight or whatever, six straight picks. Dexter Lawrence
Starting point is 02:04:34 leading the NFL in sacks, a nose tackle. Will Anderson, absolute dog. TJ Watt, obviously. And then Kirby Joseph or Brian Branch. Both of those players for the Detroit Lions could be in it, but not both of them will end up winning it. Obviously, that's what you're saying, Tone?
Starting point is 02:04:49 Yeah, if you combine them into one human, they've combined for nine interceptions, a couple forced fumbles. If they were one human, they would easily be the defense player of the year. But in that situation, they're just two humans. Have you looked into the AP rules? I mean, you're on it. I thought about doing it. I thought about submitting them both as the defense player of the year together,
Starting point is 02:05:06 and they just share it as teammates. I thought that would be cool. What about the other guys here? So, Will Anderson. I personally love seeing Will Anderson get some shine because I think he sometimes gets overlooked because he was drafted third when C.J. Stroud was drafted second. So, everybody gives C.J. Stroud a ton of love, rightfully so.
Starting point is 02:05:24 But Will Anderson, Jr., I mean, even from year one to year two, he was defensive rookie of the year last year, but he's taken his game up a completely another level this year. He's playing unbelievable football, has Daniil Hunter on the other side, which obviously helps. But Will Anderson deserves a ton of shine, too. And this is a very good list. This is a great list. Adrian McKinney, just magnet to the football. This guy is just, the football comes to him.
Starting point is 02:05:44 It's pretty awesome. Guy's probably stopped throwing his way because it ends up in his hands almost every time. It's always coming to him. All right. We appreciate you, Judge. We really do. Today was, you had a lot of fire early, didn't you?
Starting point is 02:05:54 Yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of fire. Not happening. It wasn't happening. It has to be in favorites. Yeah. He was almost gobsmacked.
Starting point is 02:06:01 It blows my mind. I am gobsmacked. It's a great word. That's a great word for it. Thank you. I am gobsmacked. Are you not? Am I am gobsmacked. That's a great word. That's a great word for it. Thank you. I am gobsmacked. Are you not? Am I the only one with that feeling in this room?
Starting point is 02:06:10 We were all pretty gobsmacked. Gobsmacked. We were all pretty gobsmacked, Wyatt. Yeah, we were. I'm no idiot. Vegas is Vegas for a reason. So clearly they got something and they know something. So I, but like, I mean, yeah, like, yes, they're going to miss.
Starting point is 02:06:24 Yeah, but MetLife is tough to play. Those New York fans are bananas. Speaking of, did you see Rob Gronkowski's friend last night take the ball out of the glove of Mookie Betts in the first inning? And then the MLB bans him. Did you see? New York fans are different, brother. That's going to be a hard place to play for those
Starting point is 02:06:45 Texans. Do you think that got like, so obviously that's a tough photograph. I mean, awesome, like just crazy. I would love to just, inside the mind, bought clearly unbelievably expensive front row tickets. Actually, Gronkowski's friend by the way, his name's Austin, I guess.
Starting point is 02:07:01 Loves porn. Do you think he sees those pictures? I mean, we all see it. He loves porn. Loves porn. Do you think he sees those pictures? I mean, we all do. He loves porn. What's that? Is that right? He loves porn. Who does? Austin.
Starting point is 02:07:10 The guy, the glove robber? Shocker. The glove godger. Yeah, I believe his last tweet is a Brazzers retweet. So he's a big porn guy. Really? You're telling me Austin's bopping? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:22 One retweet. A little bit. So he wanted to try his forearms versus Mookie Betts' hand. I believe so. I want to see how they're working there. Maybe he's doing ā€“ He's got a jock. He did.
Starting point is 02:07:32 This guy's really going to town on himself. There he is. Dude, the second guy grabs the wrist. I'm sorry. You're getting punched right now. That's him? You grab my wrist like that. This guy right here.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Boom. You grab my wrist. You're punched. I mean, that's it. Cap guy right here. Boom. You grab my wrist, you're punched. I mean, that's it. Capo Bianco. Who would have thought? I don't know if it's the same guy. Is this the same guy? It is. Austin Capo Bianco? It's like a young
Starting point is 02:07:55 Coach JB there. He does look like a young Coach JB. Put up the can we get a... He was playing with Austin Matthews For the Ice Cats JJ don't you play with him On the weekends Ice hockey
Starting point is 02:08:08 Yeah No every weekend Look at that face man That's him No Look at that That's Cabo Bianco I mean what could happen
Starting point is 02:08:17 In 15 years I was going to say 15 years That's probably about 1500 beers Bagels and pizzas there Yeah You can see it in the years I like that he said If I get this this out, he didn't complete the catch.
Starting point is 02:08:28 It's not out. Yeah, it was on transfer. Foul ball. And then that other guy. What? This is our area. Our wall. Guarantee those guys are going to be sitting with firemen on Thursday night.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Guarantee. They're going to hike. Yeah, hike. Oh, ha. Oh. He almost has to walk around with a double chin now so people recognize. He's probably just like this all the time so people recognize. It was me.
Starting point is 02:08:51 It was me. I was the guy. Rob Gronkowski was on Up and Adams, and he said him doing that represents him very well. He's all in for his teams. He's a beauty. And then I think he would go on to describe also from up and Adams on FanDuel TV he would go on to say like he's the type of guy who would say he would go do that and then actually do it that is him and Gronk and this guy I would couldn't even fathom oh my god this is not this is
Starting point is 02:09:18 on national television at the World Series yeah one of the other things that old Austin couple Bianco has pulled off? He's a beauty. Is he banned? Is he allowed? MLB banned him. Bullshit. Yankees said, we'll see you tomorrow, Austin. Bring the juice.
Starting point is 02:09:32 All right, yeah. All stadiums or just that stadium? Just game five, I think. Can he fly to L.A.? Got to get there first. Just put a fake mustache on and go in there. I don't know if he needs to be walking into L.A. We've seen some stadiums in L.A., right?
Starting point is 02:09:44 Oh, yeah. Dodger Stadium. Yeah, we've seen some. Park in L.A., right? Oh, yeah. Dodger Stadium. Yeah, we've seen some. If he does sneak in and heā€” He's a hockey guy, though, which is also very interesting. He might realize that. On Halloween outfit. Capo Bianco throws bombs.
Starting point is 02:09:56 I don't think we've got to worry about that. I would assume that is the case. Just that other dude, he's facing like 50 years. Did you see that? Oh, yeah. Ravens fan. What an asshole. Like 10 minimum.
Starting point is 02:10:06 They were going through like his full rap sheet. I guess he's 50 years in jail. It'll be a good time. That's what you do. Yep. Hopefully the Ravens win. What would have happened if Mookie Betts swung on him there? Oh, big, big controversy.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Not good. Not good. Big, big controversy. But like, you could go self-defense there, right? No. I mean, with all those Yankees fans. Yeah. What if he breaks his wrist?
Starting point is 02:10:31 Yeah, like this guy is physically grabbing his wrist. Like, you've got to be able to do that. What was he going to swing with? He had a jump punch and them up. Yeah, well, the jump punch to Austin, I think, is the most likely move there. Or smack him with your gloves. You could smack him with his glove on the way out.
Starting point is 02:10:45 That's the only other chance. You can do that. Act like you're going into the crowd and you can swipe across the face. I think if he swings on him, though, that's not good. See, when he grabs it right there, right there, I think you could do a jump punch. Right there, right there. Yes.
Starting point is 02:10:56 Yeah, he should be able to. Right here. I pull my hand back. Yeah, punch him in the mouth. Once again, we need this to happen. He's got your wrist. You pull it out And you're just
Starting point is 02:11:06 Oh you let him Keep the glove How was he getting in trouble for that Let him keep the glove You got it Bob Oh you're winner Winner Bang
Starting point is 02:11:12 Loser I wish he would Why is that bad Like he would Yes he would get rid of That That you should be able to do that You should absolutely be able to do that
Starting point is 02:11:22 I don't know if they're going to add that to the rules Like hey If a guy tries to break your wrist from the crowd in a World Series, you're allowed to punch him right in the suckle. Thump him. I guarantee it. Stop fans from grabbing gloves. I'll tell you that. There's a lot of punishments for things we could enact
Starting point is 02:11:35 that maybe stop people from doing things. Maybe we should look into doing that. Maybe we should look into doing that. That'd be old school. I wish you would have. That's like the streaker on the field. Like, never had one in my career, but definitely somebody comes running past you near the huddle.
Starting point is 02:11:53 It would have been a couple, the angel and the devil on the shoulder talking to me there. Well, you never know what they have. Like that one was in L.A., I think. Bobby Wood. Running with the pink thing. The 49ers one, yeah. Was able to get on field, had something smoking.
Starting point is 02:12:10 We're in the middle of a pretty wild time. Everybody's like, you think that person's going to do anything? It's like, you don't fucking know. You have no idea. Schlegel has the greatest in history. Anthony Schlegel has the greatest in history. James Harrison too, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:24 I think James Harrison got somebody too. Yeah. Sounds about right. right yeah he did against the browns bobby wags in la got one jage got one at uh zach brown concert that's right oh yeah that was that was clean big safe it was great i felt great uh we have a uh graphic i guess of what it could look like that's it oh my god all right all right i'm i'm i'm so good again i'm in this this has been a good show he's got a watch a graphic, I guess, of what it could look like. That's it. All right. I'm sold. This has been a good show. He's got to watch putting his head back, though. Russ does, because he'll hit TJ right in the jaw. So we've got to watch
Starting point is 02:12:54 the helmet. He's got to go no helmet. Yeah, he's got to go hat forward. Hat forward. Not backward. This should be our Emmy shot. Like when we send it in to get the Emmy. This is it. Right is it The nomination sheet Russ needs to tuck his legs too Just like when you're skydiving
Starting point is 02:13:11 They have a full thing When we get out there, arms up And then knees back Oh that's it though, get in a skydiving rig That's all it is, that's what they use We have it And there's Western Pennsylvania skydive. You can go get it. It's very near.
Starting point is 02:13:27 They should skydive in. Just do it from the sky. Oh, my God. Oh, mama. I'm in fear for my life running long. You see a helicopter coming down the three rivers? Just flying down. TJ, hanging off the side with
Starting point is 02:13:43 Russell Dangling. Oh, my God. Yeah. You ready for this? Man, Zambelli fireworks. You're going to have to miss those. Yeah, yep. Or you do it out of the back of a C-30 or whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:13:53 You just go like a flyover. But instead of just a regular flyover, it's just them popping out the back. And the home of the brain. Look up the sky, fly over. Plane. And then, look out the back of that thing. And then it's fucking TJ and Russell Wilson. My God, that's TJ. What?
Starting point is 02:14:15 Oh my God. Full pads. Yep. How long would it take them to realize it? How close to the ground do they have to be before people realize, holy shit, that is two players? Well, I think they ought to announce it immediately. Hey, T.J. Watt and Russell Wilson are currently a 10,000 feet. I think they have to announce that immediately.
Starting point is 02:14:34 I think we need to know that. It's going to be tough at tonight's game because the black uniforms. They're going to have to wear flares. Yeah, you're right. Oh, flares. Touch the lops, yeah. Yeah. It's going to be sweet.
Starting point is 02:14:44 All right, I'm happy we can do this. You want to win the. Oh, flares. Special ops, yeah. Yeah. That's going to be sweet. All right. I'm happy we can do this. You want to win the Super Bowl, do it. All right, J.H., great work. Really, really good job today. Thanks, guys. Really good job today. That's a sweet jacket. You look super cool today.
Starting point is 02:14:54 The hair, too, tightened up. You look like a kind of special agent-y today. He is a nice jacket. Thanks. He's a very nice jacket. I'm headed out to L.A. I'm hopping on a plane to L.A. right now to go interview Jim Harbaugh, so I'm headed out to LA. I'm literally, I'm hopping on a plane to LA right now.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Go interview Jim Harbaugh. So I'm looking forward to that. Oh, for this weekend. When's it airing? Yeah. It's airing a Sunday CBS pregame show. You guys got any questions for Harbaugh or anything?
Starting point is 02:15:17 What are you asking him? What are you asking? What's the angle? What kind of Zen? I got a couple of different one. I mean, I got obviously some football, some non, but one of my biggest questions that I have for him is he's played,
Starting point is 02:15:28 coached, college pro across three different eras basically. And I love hearing the differences between the different eras, what the players are like back when he played versus 2011 versus now how the game has changed. And then I really want to know about his dad, like if his dad has day to day input, like, does he still call his dad for coaching decisions or Jesus call him when he needs the hype up speech of like, who's got it better than us? Nobody. A little perspective, put it from dad.
Starting point is 02:15:54 Maybe that's what he is. Or is he in actual conversations day to day? That's fascinating because he's got John then too. So he's running two potential operations as a part of it. If you could ask him how we landed on for, he's a jolly good fellow for, he's a jo potential operations as a part of it. If you could ask him how we landed on For He's a Jolly Good Fellow. For he's a jolly good fellow. For he's a jolly good fellow. That's his birthday song of choice? No, that's in the locker room afterwards. Post game.
Starting point is 02:16:17 Oh. I think that's like his. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's for sure. Do a little research. You're interviewing the fucking guy. This is unbelievable. There's a limit on game balls also
Starting point is 02:16:26 Yeah how many game balls That's a great conversation to have Because I've had that one inside the locker room What are you talking about I think he gave out nine on Sunday That's right after the game too That's not even counting Monday meeting Whenever you give out game balls as well
Starting point is 02:16:44 Once you learn things that happen in the game. Good moment. That is a good moment in there. Especially in the back of the room. Have we talked on here about whole team game balls? Whole team? How do you feel about whole defense or whole offense game balls? I mean, I'm...
Starting point is 02:17:02 It's situational. Oh, he doesn't like it. Listen, I'm situational. Oh, he doesn't like it. Listen, I had to earn my fucking game balls. Okay. Everybody gets one. Okay. We all watch the tape. Mark, you pitch a show.
Starting point is 02:17:15 Have you had whole team game balls on non-significant wins? Yeah, but aren't they only? Whole team game balls? It wasn't like a division. I've had a whole team game ball. Like it may be like you were on like a two or three game losing streak or something.
Starting point is 02:17:30 Then you win one and they're like, everybody gets one. I'm like, really? Is that like against the Colts? You guys beat the Colts. It's a call for celebration.
Starting point is 02:17:39 Everybody gets a game ball. It's like, ah, whatever. Everyone gets one. This one doesn't mean shit. No. No. Complete opposite. This one's a big deal.
Starting point is 02:17:46 We just want everybody deserves to remember this on the mantle. Not anymore. Not anymore. Yeah, there was definitely a time. There's no doubt. You guys were very good and took it to us for a while there. In 2014. I mean, 2-0 this year.
Starting point is 02:17:58 How tough is that? You got to wait at least, what is it, nine, ten months until you get another crack? We'll see how this whole season shakes out. Okay? We'll see. See you in the first round of playoffs. This cracked me up. It was good. Yeah? Good laugh?
Starting point is 02:18:13 Happy to hear it. It was a good laugh. I literally have to get on a plane. So, I will... Safe travels, buddy. Thanks. Go Texans. Go Colts. Good luck up there. Don't tap it. So I will Yeah, safe travels, buddy Thanks Go, Texas Go Colts Good luck up there
Starting point is 02:18:27 Don't tap Don't you Dang You don't even Stop, stop, stop Stop, stop, stop That was That was a rude callback
Starting point is 02:18:38 See ya Not bad He's flying private In real life, right? Yeah, for sure Gotta go Plane, it's not Plane's sitting outside his house.a right yeah for sure oh i gotta go playing it's not playing sitting outside they're leaving when you want to he's actually testing out the helicopter thing right now that's right just hopped on one to get over to the plane i'm gonna drop out of here
Starting point is 02:18:54 his hair tight very good he's good he's going straight to the interview huh flying la straight to the end this is what i'm wearing back for dinner they got a brand new facility too i think over there right chargers yeah yeah they do actually yeah so i think he's doing a full that should be nice you know jade was really on one today wasn't he yeah he was he was done with the how do you feel about the offensive linemen having uh be good for 58 plays out of 60 but if they're bad for two they can't say they're good i hate it i hate everything about it but that's just how it is it's just how it is that guy said he. Three and a half quarters didn't do nothing. And then I got Nick over my shoulder just chirping.
Starting point is 02:19:30 I mean, they tripled. Because you wanted it to be true. They tripled team and they quadrupled team. They slid it. It's like, that looked pretty good right there. There was a couple that looked pretty good. From the guy against TJ? There was a couple.
Starting point is 02:19:39 There was a couple that looked pretty good. So he did win a couple times. He won a couple times. But the amount of times it was one-on-one. It was maybe. Less than 10. It was less than 10. And he won maybe four of them. He won a couple times. But the amount of times it was one-on-one. It was maybe less than 10. It was less than 10, and he won maybe four of them. Okay.
Starting point is 02:19:49 That's not bad. That's not bad. Hey, baseball we're talking about right now. That's right. This ain't baseball. Hall of Fame. Baseball, you're in Hall of Fame. Best player ever.
Starting point is 02:19:57 Is this football anymore? I don't know. I'm starting to wonder. Yeah. The domain of the fucking guy. Please. Get a game-winning strip sack. had a game-winning strip sack. Yeah, a game-winning strip sack recovery.
Starting point is 02:20:09 I got to see the whole quote. You're right. Maybe he was taking it out of context. Yeah, we got to do a little more research. No way. How do you feel about your Island comment? Island was good, wasn't it? That's what I thought.
Starting point is 02:20:20 They asked him about TJ, like how TJ's performance in the game, and he tried. No, he didn't even try. He said, I ain't going to freaking hype him up. He was starting to try and talk nicely about TJ. He stopped halfway through and then said that quote. I can't do it. I can't.
Starting point is 02:20:35 You know, TJ's a really good player. He tries really hard. I'm not freaking hyping this guy up. He's not going to say it's right. I like it. I like you have pride. I like you have confidence in that whole thing. But this goes back to when we were chit-chatting about these tacklers being humans
Starting point is 02:20:49 and telling them, like, hey, we're going to help you here. We're going to help you here. You have to. We're going to help you here. It's just the modern world. You have to. These guys are getting bigger, stronger, faster every single year. Like, as I watch these films, I'm like, I'm so happy I'm out of this.
Starting point is 02:21:03 These guys just keep getting. AJ says the same thing. I don't know if D-Butch says the same thing. Do you say the same thing or no? You think you can still hang with... I mean, not now. But in your prime? Yeah, it'd be fun.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Okay, so... I mean, these guys, they're talking shit. Super humble, yes. I agree. But I think AJ's point is, every time we're around any college game or NFL game, I assume, it's just like, God, everybody's so big and fast. I think you forget how big and fast you were. That's what it is.
Starting point is 02:21:27 Yeah, I mean, I was obviously, I'm not like a super large dude anyway to begin with, but now when you're removed and all of a sudden you're on the sidelines for a big college game or a pro game, like, jeez. I don't know how I played football, even in high school almost. Dudes are just big and fast, it feels like.
Starting point is 02:21:43 I think Reggie Wayne quote tweeted one of the old, there was an old, you got jacked up highlight reel circulating the internet. I saw that, and it was him against the Patriots, and he got fucking destroyed. And Reggie quotes me and was like, I have no idea how you signed up to do this. What it used to be. It used to be.
Starting point is 02:21:59 Still, still. Yeah, you're right. It still happened. You can change it. Obviously, it's gotten safer, and you got target zones and shit like that. But to AJ's point, when you see some of these impact, even at home, you watch, you're like. It still happened. Bigger fat. Like, you can change. Obviously, it's gotten safer, and you got target zones and shit like that. But to AJ's point, when you see some of these impacts, like, even at home, you watch, like, oh, shit. And then everybody just pops up and goes, do it again. You really did that for, you know, however, you know, from 5 to 32.
Starting point is 02:22:17 Like, that was just your life. Forever and ever, amen. In football, you're going to have to be a tough guy if you want to be in the NFL. Like, that's how it's going to be. That's just what it is. That's the sport. The sport calls for it. Like, that's just how it has to be to be a tough guy if you want to be in the NFL. That's how it's going to be. That's the sport. The sport calls for it. That's just how it has to be.
Starting point is 02:22:27 Even a punter kicking position. I guess kickers roll their ankle and they're out, but that seemingly happened a lot more back in the day than it does now. Now, when I see guys get hurt from going into tackles, I don't think it's always a good look. Sure. I don't think it's always a good look. But there's some kickers that are.
Starting point is 02:22:43 I'll bring it. We've got some dogs out there. Kickers and punters showing up this year. It's a big look. I don't think it's always a good look. But there's some kickers that are... We got some dogs out there. Kickers and punters showing up this year. It's a big deal. But to your point about whenever people get hit, I see Rigoberto Sanchez come out to punt for the Colts and he's standing like five feet in front of me in the backed up
Starting point is 02:22:57 end zone. I'm like, I am so happy I'm not that fucking guy right now. I'm having so much more fun right here. Come on, Rigo! Let's not give up a ton or a field goal here. that guy right now i'm having so much more fun right here yeah come on regal yeah all right let's go ahead a big one here pal let's not give up a ton or field goal here in a bit don't drop the ball either it's game over you drop the ball this thing's over and he's saying right in front of me i'm like thank god i don't have to do any of that anymore real like all the preparation you
Starting point is 02:23:18 guys did i assume you got your creatures or habit but then like the anxiety to perform every single week like as if your livelihood actually depends upon it. I'm okay that that's not happening anymore for me personally. I don't know about everybody. I'm very, yeah. Before games going like this can all crumble today. You had three bad balls.
Starting point is 02:23:34 It's over. Fuck. Get that thought out here. Get that. You're way too loud on the internet to fucking miss any of these kicks right now. You can, this GM hate your fucking guts. You missed two of these.
Starting point is 02:23:44 Good. Bob will hold for Adam Vinatieri. Go ahead and see what the fuck. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can't be thinking like that. This GM hates your fucking guts. You missed two of these. Go ahead, bobble a hold for Adam Vinatieri. Go ahead and see what the fuck. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can't be thinking like that. Can't be thinking like that. Everything's going to go good. Yeah, going to bomb balls, of course.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Any jog on the field, it's like, oh. Yeah, you had a lot of, like, with kicking, punting, like, you guys have to think way more. Like, us, it's like, you got to get to the next step. You get another call. Adrenaline is pumping. Next play, like, it's really got to be a next play. And then, with game records, a guy like
Starting point is 02:24:06 T.J. Watt, it's a reason why coaches put them up on Wednesday. Hey, these three guys can't ruin the game. When you line up across freaks like that, T.J. Watt, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, guys like that in their prime, those dudes are different.
Starting point is 02:24:22 Leading up to it too. Saturdays. That was the worst for me It was like Because I'd be sitting there Watching college football My wife like knew by the end Like get the kids Get the family
Starting point is 02:24:30 Get them out of the house I'd be watching football And like I got Aaron Donald And Tamar And I'm sitting there Thinking about something And she's like
Starting point is 02:24:35 Shut the fuck up Aaron Donald's gonna kill me Aaron Donald's gonna kill me Tamar Just stop talking to me I gotta I'm thinking about Three down
Starting point is 02:24:43 Third down Third and twelve Like I gotta block this fucking Leave me alone Please Go away Donald's going to kill me tomorrow. Just stop talking to me. I'm thinking about three down, third down, third and 12. Like, I got to block this fucking. Leave me alone. Please. Go away. Hey, babe. Babe, you want your husband back tomorrow night?
Starting point is 02:24:52 Yeah. Okay. We got Aaron Donald coming at that. Twice. Twice. Twice a year. You got to have that Illuminor mindset, though. When you lined up, you got to feel like, hey.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Lock this ass down. It's Julio. It's AB. It's DeAndre. I'm here for a reason. It's what you sign up for. You don't sign up to play against bums. You sign up to beat got to feel like, hey. Lock this ass down. It's Julio. It's A.B. It's DeAndre. I'm here for a reason. It's what you sign up for. You don't sign up to play against bums. You sign up to beat Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers or whoever in the big moment.
Starting point is 02:25:12 Absolutely. So make football sports. No doubt. Absolutely. Yeah. A lot of thinking for our positions. Too much. Hit a bad ball.
Starting point is 02:25:21 Go to the sideline. Vinatieri gives you, it's going to be all right. I'm like, is it? Is it? I don't know. What if I hit another one? And then what if I never hit a spiral again? Holy fuck.
Starting point is 02:25:34 All right. I'll make up for it. And then for 20 minutes, you just got to not have that thought. And then all of a sudden, here we go. Backed up. Well, then you have the other side of it, too. It's like if you hit an absolute nuke, and then on the first play, they complete a 45-yard pass, and it's like, okay, well,
Starting point is 02:25:48 what the fuck am I doing? We could have just handed the ball off. Could have snapped the ball, handed the ball off. Think it'd be over. Yeah, first play. Happy we did it, boys. Back them up. Give them more yards to gain. AJ, you didn't think, I assume.
Starting point is 02:26:04 You were a less thinky more athlete takeover you got luckily when you're in it I trusted my instincts and prep and all that but no I was at times there's always situations where you know I was always very very aware
Starting point is 02:26:20 of when I was going to be put in a terrible situation like going to be put on an island on 3rd and 11 and me and my buddy have the tight end and the offset back, and they're coming out, and they're slowly releasing behind each other, and you've got to figure it out on the fly when they split if we're playing this. Hey, we're banjoing, or am I taking the first outside? Things like that, that's what I would think about a lot. Okay, great. Darren Sproles. Can't see him.
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Starting point is 02:28:04 Welcome back to our spooky humble abode. It's time to know. On this warm Wednesday, October 30th, 2024, Hour 3 of the program starts right now. Football! It is awesome. Week 9 of the NFL season kicks off tomorrow. There's college games on every single night,
Starting point is 02:28:22 seemingly at this point of the season, which is beautiful. The World Series has Game 5 this evening as the New York Yankees were able to steal one at home and stop the entire sweep through the World Series of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Who will be wrapping them onto the diamond we shall see as the Yankees try to make a big-time comeback? That's A.J. Hawk. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 02:28:42 Con man, how's basketball going? Is this still happening? Yeah, basketball's going really well. Actually, Dallas. Dallas, unbelievable. Luka once again destroyed Minnesota last night and Clay Thompson and the Mavericks all together as one. They are a very, very good basketball team. And then we got Spurs
Starting point is 02:28:56 tonight, I believe, with Wemby going against OKC. The battle of the two lanky freaks. Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembaugh and Yama. And who's, isn't there another game that's happening tonight maybe? Yeah, but that one's not going to be as competitive. Celtics are playing the Pacers in Indianapolis tonight, which will be great, but that's not
Starting point is 02:29:12 one that you want to tune in. You don't want to go watch a game to see a blowout. You're not really wanting to watch the Lions play the Jags. You'd rather watch the Commanders play the Ravens. That's kind of this type of situation right now. Pacers about to blow the shit out of them.
Starting point is 02:29:28 I mean, we know. I like it. Yeah, they are about to blow the shit out of the Celtics in the worst possible way. No, they're about to beat them down. I don't think that'll happen per se. I do think that tonight might be one of those like, okay, maybe last year with the Pacers was a really, really fun run. Maybe that was a good time. Let's hold on to those times for a little bit.
Starting point is 02:29:49 But you never know. You never know. The Celtics, they've been known to lay an egg or two before, but I don't think tonight will be as competitive as you might hope it will. Two guys in the starting five in tonight's matchup here in Indianapolis. I assume they will be filming their Netflix special. Are you happy that Jalen Brown's in that? I'm happy, but I would rather not be the team that gets forced out
Starting point is 02:30:08 of everyone's throats. I would rather be the team that everyone ignores and just kind of lets them do their thing. And then at the end of the year when they're winning the finals again, everyone's like, wow, look how good this team is. And Tatum on starting five, awesome. But the big takeaway from Tatum on starting five was like, this guy's a 50 year old
Starting point is 02:30:25 man like he he's 26 of course he's going to be the face of the the NBA but on you know the actual show behind the scenes like he's a father and he just does basketball and stuff why do you why couldn't he make it on the court for the Olympic team he just he's just not there yet he's not there yet he will be one day what do you mean he's not there what what what it? He just can't crack into the top-tier talent of the big superstars that were on the Olympics. Granted, only American who was first-team All-NBA. But again, he'll get there one day. He'll be there at some point in time, and maybe next Olympics he'll be able to play.
Starting point is 02:30:59 But we're focused on this year. We don't give a fuck about anything except going back-to-back. And to be honest, I have a feeling we're going to beat the fucking shit out of the Pacers tonight. I think it might be a big old bloodbath. Yeah, it seems pretty evident that's how you feel. Yeah. We'll see if Hal a big shot lets that happen. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 02:31:18 We'll see. Big Puma, cuz? Yeah. Big Puma, you can definitely play with that nickname. I don't know if you want to hammer that one home. He's wearing those Pumas. Big Puma, you could definitely play with that nickname. I don't know if you want to hammer that one home. He's wearing those Pumas, Big Puma. Which is a cat, so you could easily go right to Big Push. Jungle Cat.
Starting point is 02:31:32 You could. Jungle Cat. Still a cat, still in the family. No. He's got the Puma shoes on. And they're sweet shoes. I think I'm going to get them. They're not as cool as Tatum's, but they're cool shoes.
Starting point is 02:31:42 And they're not as cool as Jalen Brown's, but they're cool shoes. And, I mean, I'm excited to get them. They're not as cool as Tatum's, but they're cool shoes, and they're not as cool as Jalen Brown's, but they're cool shoes. I'm excited for him. Him on I think starting five will be probably the cooler. I mean, I guess KD and James Harden are there, but he'll be one of the cooler premier guys on that show for sure. Jeez Louise. I mean, look. What's the spread
Starting point is 02:32:00 on tonight's? It's only six and a half. Six and a half. Oh, six and a half? Yeah. That's how many free throws happen at the end of a game? Six and a half. Oh, six and a half? That's how many free throws happen at the end of a game. Six and a half is easy come, easy go. That's low. That's not big at all. Once again, you know how much everyone respects the Celtics.
Starting point is 02:32:13 Once again, something that Missoula's probably got on his back. What's that all about? How come nobody talks about the Celtics? Why are we literally the only... And I don't appreciate the fact, now that we do have our show licensed on ESPN, maybe a little bit more legitimacy. We're not a basketball show, I guess.
Starting point is 02:32:29 That's why they say it. But they all run with nobody talks about us. Nobody talks. I feel like we talk ad nauseum about this. We do. We do. But we don't talk NBA during. We're not NBA people. Yeah, we're not NBA people.
Starting point is 02:32:38 And also, we usually talk about NBA now. Like, I feel like the NBA people just have ESPN on. And they're not big YouTube folks. Oh. You know what I'm saying? about NBA now like I feel like the NBA people just have ESPN on and they're not big YouTube folks oh so like anytime like they look up at the TV like NBA Live for instance that's on at four o'clock that's like before they're going into the games so that's probably the last thing that they're seeing the disrespect they're saying not even talking about the best team bingo just thinking NBA schedule too like they wake up at like 11 12. Because the night before. Yeah, because the night before they got meetings until 1 or 2.
Starting point is 02:33:07 Then they're back with the TV on after shoot around. Stuff like that. Got the trophy right there. Yeah, I see the trophy. We're always celebrating Celtics slowly. Every day. Every single day. Just like the Florida Panthers right over here. Nine-year NFL victory. H.J. Butler's here. Everything DB, good D, bad D comes in a matter
Starting point is 02:33:23 of moments. A.Q. Shipley is here, Penn State alum, obviously, wearing the hoodie. And I don't see AJ wearing any Ohio State stuff. Interesting. Never does. AJ, now that you have AQ's ears on here, and he obviously feels very good about Penn State, is there anything you want to say about this weekend's matchup against the Nittany Lions up there in State College? Well, first off, AQ, I've been pounding the desk
Starting point is 02:33:48 for you to be the guest picker on game day. Not sure if they've given you that call yet. Have you got that call yet? No. Have you got it? No, I haven't. Why? Put your ringer on. Why? Too many skeletons? Yes, maybe. Keep it on loud. Don't have it on vibrant. I'm going to turn it up. I'll just keep waiting. I'll let you know if I ever get it. Let me know if you ever get it.
Starting point is 02:34:10 Yeah, I'll text you. Let me know if you ever get it. People think I have the decisions for game day. That is not true. You don't pick who's the guest picker every week? I don't pick where we're going. I don't pick the guest picker. What?
Starting point is 02:34:21 I am not a ā€“ I'm pretty low on totem pole for good reason, for good reason, obviously. We go into Indiana every week. Yeah, I think Purdue, I think, should have it right now. Notre Dame, maybe? I think Notre Dame should potentially think about it because there is a slight fear of flying, you know, that it takes place, but obviously that's part of the gig.
Starting point is 02:34:40 Very lucky to do it. But, yeah, I have no say in anything. So let me know if you ā€“ that would be cool, man. It would be cool if you were the guest. Have they done it yet? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:34:49 Tell Rossio. Brosio? Yeah. I thought he was part of the process. Yeah, right. Brosio doesn't sleep for, like, eight straight months because of logistical nightmares. The whole going to college campuses for, like, their biggest games, but us not knowing until, like, week of that we're headed there.
Starting point is 02:35:09 People book hotel and shit and reservation, everything. Especially games like this where before the season starts, you know Ohio State, Penn State. They've been booked for over a year, hotels and stuff. Yeah, exactly. It's the biggest of the boosters, season ticket holders alumni everything like so trying to figure out navigate the hospitality like the logistics of it all is always thing and that's that's brosio's bag that's right brosio's in the middle of that i don't know if brosio is necessarily as like happy while doing it all you know it's a lot of he's got a lot of this got to that gotta rent cars from this city because this city is out
Starting point is 02:35:45 of rental cars because guess what biggest event that's happening in this city so we gotta yeah that's brosio's life that's brosio's not picking a guest baker though i don't think no i mean maybe he has a vote i'm not 100 sure it'd probably be adele i'm not but what do you think about it would be if he could swing adele in there as guest baker he would certainly do that if i had to guess what is your takeaway for this weekend though what are What are your thoughts here? I know you're paying attention. I know you know a lot about it. I know you're talking about it on local radio. I know you talk to your friends about it. I know that you are very well-versed in what this game is going to be like. What are your thoughts on it for Ohio State? I mean, I think this is the true test for both these teams. I mean,
Starting point is 02:36:20 we know Ohio State has lost to Oregon and everything in the close game to Nebraska, but I think both the teams, it's like a great measuring stick for both these teams of who you are and where you're going to be. I don't know what the game's going to look like. I know Penn State's got a really good tight end, though, AQ, so obviously got to figure out a way to shut him down. But Ohio State's defense, I know Schlage just told me last game against Nebraska, they had like 13 TFLs and three sacks, and that's a big thing.
Starting point is 02:36:44 They haven't been able to get as much pressure and play on the other side of the line of scrimmage, so hopefully they can continue that against Penn State. Okay, so do you think trap game Nebraska? That's why I was so close. It sounds like the defense did great. Or do you think just Nebraska just got their asses beat too? I think the way people were comparing Ohio State versus Nebraska
Starting point is 02:37:02 versus Indiana versus Nebraska, which I appreciate as an Indiana Hoosier here in Indianapolis, like doing that, saying, how come the Hoosiers didn't move up in rankings, but Ohio State does and they beat the hell out of it? It's like, I think that Nebraska team was a very different team coming off an ass-beating. Like, that's just naturally going to happen with human instinct and everything.
Starting point is 02:37:19 How did you view that Ohio State game against Nebraska? Is that who they are? And is that, that's very problematic, I think, right, with right with this penn state team that is i think their defense is legit yeah penn state's defense is legit yeah ohio state's gonna have to find a way to consistently run the ball protect the quarterback but like when they if you want to take the positives out of it like when they needed to score they were down the fourth quarter will howard had to come down and and drive him down and go score and find a way to actually win that game i know people thought it shouldn't have been that close, but, you know,
Starting point is 02:37:46 I say it all the time. You've got to be able to win in multiple different ways. How do you handle adversity? Do you freak out when you get behind? Being behind in the fourth quarter, I think, is a great experience for them. We don't need this. I don't know why that highlight snuck in there. I don't love that, obviously.
Starting point is 02:38:00 Hey, Kewsh, what are your thoughts on Penn State this week? It feels like this is the team that's maybe built for it. obviously. Hey, Kush, what are your thoughts on Penn State this week? It feels like this is the team that's maybe built for it. Every year it's almost like the Cowboys, where you think this is it, this is it, this is it, this is it. Then whenever a big game comes,
Starting point is 02:38:14 don't win it. That's kind of been Penn State football for a long time. And I think the James Franklin record against ranked opponents is bad. 0-7 maybe? Or maybe Ryan Days is 0-7 versus top fives, which is basically all Michigan. And a couple others. And then James
Starting point is 02:38:29 Franklin's stats against top fives, not great either. So something's got to give here between both these programs. But feels like this year's different, doesn't it? And Drew Aller's a big question mark, obviously. The quarterback, that's a big deal. But is this Penn State team for real this year? We will find out very shortly. But my big thing is I don't want to see trick plays up and down the field. I want to see,
Starting point is 02:38:48 this is the best offensive line they've had in a long time. Line up, run the ball, right at them. And I want to see, the big thing with James too, over the years, you'll see if it's fourth and one at the 50, he'll punt it and try and play the field position game. You've got to be aggressive in these games, right? You have to go for those and steal a possession here and there, maybe steal some points out of that, right? And that's the one thing that I'm hoping I see this weekend. Penn State fans going to be loud this weekend or what?
Starting point is 02:39:17 They will be very loud. It's a day game, though. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's a noon game. It doesn't matter. I'm excited for you to see it because they're going to be camping out starting maybe today. For game day? The students on campus will be camping out, I mean, obviously for their seats
Starting point is 02:39:33 because it's first come, first serve for student section seats. That's not good for us then. So if it's general admission for game day, that means students leaving to try to get in there potentially. Now, they obviously get that all sorted when they go inside. And you'll have everybody. You'll see all the RVs. I mean, this is the biggest day of the year in State College every year, Penn State, Ohio State, when it's there.
Starting point is 02:39:53 Oh, really? Oh, yeah. This is it. Noon game, big deal? I mean, yeah, it's huge. Huge. I heard the Penn State fans are not happy. They would like the 8 o'clock and whiteout.
Starting point is 02:40:03 There's no question about that. Because they want the lights shut. Exactly. They want the Penn State fans are not happy. They would like the 8 o'clock and whiteout. There's no question about that. Because they want the light show. They want the whole thing. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we are Penn State. It's unbelievable. Well, that was what they did last week. There's numerous schools that do that.
Starting point is 02:40:17 I just want to let you know. You guys are the first. See, it's we are Penn State. That's what it is. And then I do it when that song's going, I do it every break. But then there is's we are Penn State. That's what it is. And then I do it. When that song's going, you do it every break. But then there is a we are. Yeah, on the other side of the stadium. Penn State, we are.
Starting point is 02:40:32 And they do that over. Three times. And then thank you, you're welcome. I don't think you're saying that. I'm excited to get up there. I'm excited for you to see it. Real cold up there. There's only, you know, like the South, the SEC,
Starting point is 02:40:45 their fan base is pretty culty, religious. I mean, it you to say it. Real cult up there. There's only, you know, like the South, the SEC, their fan base is pretty culty, religious. I mean, it is how it is. In the North, there is, I think, a few that have withstood the test of time. Like when teams get good, obviously fan bases come and go. Like Ohio State's always going to be right. It's an SEC-type loyalty passion for Ohio State. Michigan, same thing. I think because of the tradition and history, Penn State very rarely gets spotlighted, you know,
Starting point is 02:41:12 because of Michigan-Ohio State's dominance as of late. We all know about the whiteout. We all know how crazy it is. But, I mean, game day hasn't beenā€”I mean, like, these moments, especially with how the Big Ten was split, it wasn't, like, set up for Penn State to get the big moments all the time. So now that we're going up there, I'm very excited to get up there. I thought I was going to be in the other line. You know, I thought I was going to be in the other line. I want to kick in the competition.
Starting point is 02:41:33 What the fuck are we competing for? Good question. Good question. What are we competing for? Life would have been very different for us up there. Oh, my God. Couldn't have had pretty good news, actually. Quarterback healthy?
Starting point is 02:41:45 Drew Allen? I had this question. They said it's pretty good news, actually. Quarterback healthy? Drew Allen? That's the question. They said it's day-to-day. Okay. He played close to the vest in college. College, you don't have to say shit.
Starting point is 02:41:50 Yeah. Hate that. Pete Thamel has told us news on, like, Friday. Pretty massive news. He's like, I think I'm going to drop
Starting point is 02:42:00 this tomorrow about 8.55 before the show goes live or whatever. You're going to sit on that until 8.55? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got to make sure we roll it. I'm like, that news needs to be out 10 minutes.
Starting point is 02:42:13 Isn't somebody else going to get that? Because college is a little different, you know, with the intel. Like, they keep it real. They keep it real tight. And then I think only a couple people know, like, anything at all times. Even players on team. I don't think players on team know. I don't think other coaches know. They keep it. And they don't have to. They don't have people know anything at all. Even players on team. I don't think players on team know. I don't think other coaches know.
Starting point is 02:42:26 They keep it. And they don't have to. They don't have to say anything about anything. Drew Aller's a big piece of that. Huge. He's a monster. But the other kid's good. I mean, he plays a lot.
Starting point is 02:42:33 They have a package for him. He's more of what the offensive coordinator had in Kansas. He's more of your zone read running dual threat type of guy. Aller's more of the big arm down the field, push the ball down the field. So both guys are good. Pribula, I think is how you pronounce the backup's name. He went in against Wisconsin and won the game. Are you guys both afraid of
Starting point is 02:42:51 Indiana, though? I don't think so. How about you, AJ? I wouldn't say afraid by any means, but I would say they absolutely know they're for real. You guys got to find that. Does Penn State play Indiana? No, Ohio State does. Ohio State's
Starting point is 02:43:08 got a couple weeks. I'll tell you, could you imagine coming off a Nebraska game? Tough bunch. Penn State game. They got Indiana. Oh my god, Cignetti too. He's going to be telling that team, that school, about
Starting point is 02:43:24 Ohio State. The story came out this week Oh, my God. Signetti, too. He's going to be telling that team, that school, about Ohio State. Yeah. When was the last time? I mean, the story came out this week or last week about Coach Corso taking his Indiana team over in front of the scoreboard in the first quarter because they had a lead over Ohio State. Let's make sure we get this photo. Let's make sure we get a photo. It took a timeout in the middle of the first quarter to take a picture
Starting point is 02:43:41 with the team so it could say they had a lead over Ohio State. It was 7-6 I believe was the score. Yep, nice. Before the extra points. That sends the right message. Let's go take it. It's different. I mean. Did they win? No. They ended up losing like 49-7 or something. I forget exactly what it was.
Starting point is 02:44:00 It was a great picture though. They'll have forever like Indiana in Ohio State. I don't think he's ever considered, like, here we go. Indiana folks are like, we would like Ohio State. Let's go ahead and do this battle. Is that at Ohio State or is that at Indiana? I think it's at Ohio State.
Starting point is 02:44:13 Ohio State, yeah. Yeah, it's at Ohio State. It's two weeks in. Ohio State has two games, and then they play like Purdue, Northwestern, and then Indiana. But, I mean, Indiana's not sneaking up on anybody. We know that now. Well, maybe some of the Ohio State fans, they probably think this is the same old, same old Indiana. But, I mean, Indiana's not sneaking up on anybody. We know that now. Well, maybe some of the Ohio State fans.
Starting point is 02:44:26 They probably think this is the same old, same old Indiana. Smell those Cs coming. That's right. Off the paying attention. That's right. Well. Which. Do a lot of people do.
Starting point is 02:44:37 Yeah, good question. I don't know. Especially in these times with the NFL trade deadline coming up. I don't know how much people are paying attention. NFL trade deadline, obviously, six days away, November 5th. Everybody's talking about coming up on November 5th, the NFL trade deadline. Trade early.
Starting point is 02:44:53 Trade often. Got to do it. I guess that's a new thing, trade often. Yeah, that's right. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for us to get smarter. In the wrap-up, this week eight of the NFL season that happened just three days ago, and put a fin us to get smarter. In the wrap-up, this week eight of the NFL season that happened just three days ago, and put a finality to it all.
Starting point is 02:45:08 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for AQ-ship, please. Three takeaways from week eight. AQ-ship. AQ-ship. Let's do some takeaways from week eight. What'd you learn? Let's start with Sean McVay and the Rams' resurgence, and it all starts with their shiny weapons
Starting point is 02:45:22 in Puka Nakua and Cooper Cup. As we see, we're going to have about four plays here. Check this out. You see two by two. See Puka going in motion? Goes to one by three. As he goes in motion, he gets the screen pass out. Everything is going to look the same.
Starting point is 02:45:37 As you see, as we move forward, you're going to see all the same formations. Two by two again, he's going to go in motion. It all looks the same to the defense. Guess what? Jet sweep. You've got to prepare for every single different thing. So you get a screen. You get a jet sweep. Now let's watch it again. You're going to get him in motion again. He's going to run the wheel route down the sideline. Nope, not going to him. Let's hit the back out of the backfield after the clear out. So it's just constantly building and building and building with McVay. Now here's the best one.
Starting point is 02:46:06 We're going to send him in motion again. And we're going to fake the screen that you ran on the first play and run the wheel route to Cooper Cupp. It all looks the same. It all looks the same. And here's the thing. When they play Seattle this week, it might be Cooper going in motion because those two players are interchangeable. They both can block.
Starting point is 02:46:22 They both can run the jet sweep. They both can insert on linebackers. They both can run the wheel sweep. They both can insert on linebackers. They both can run the wheel route. They both can go the deep ball. They can do everything. D-Butch, everything looking the same is like a main goal, I think, for offenses. For wide receivers, everything looks the same? Yeah, that's tough. That's tough to battle because there's no tells, really. Very tough because we're all about
Starting point is 02:46:38 tendency, especially defensive coordinators. They can only get personnel, field position, down and distance. So when you have an offense post all that to come out, a lot of these things look the same it's tough especially when everything is moving so fast you can hand it off and to his point when you have guys that are interchangeable use this one quote-unquote move guy when we have both guys that can do it very very tough for dj you talked about being on an island whenever two guys are coming you're gonna have to figure it out on the fly it's almost like that happens with every these plays oh yeah every single time you
Starting point is 02:47:04 gotta figure it out on the fly and everybody's got that happens with every these plays oh yeah every single time you got to figure it out on the fly and everybody's got to be on the same page you really put a lot you apply a lot of pressure to the defense brains aj lock yeah you do and it's all happening at the snap you see like in motion you don't know and when puga comes in that motion if you're a backer safety anyone you're like okay what if they snap it and hit him the jet sweep okay he's like you're waiting you're you're like watching his how you have to see his pace and if he's like slowing down, okay, jet sweep here possible. Oh, fake jet sweep. Oh, never mind.
Starting point is 02:47:29 He went past the quarterback. It just makes you play on your heels, and that sucks. It's terrible. That's Sean McVay football. He's got a big old brain. He's only 38 years old, been the head coach of the Rams for eight years already. So good. Absolutely crazy.
Starting point is 02:47:41 What's the second takeaway from week eight, AQ Shipley? We have Bradley Bodybreaking Bozeman. I like that. Bradley Bodybreaking Bozeman. Who's this guy? Listen, I loved seeing this this week because you have not seen this
Starting point is 02:47:57 in recent years. I think there's been a change in the type of player coming into the NFL, but when somebody hits your quarterback, that's what you do. You fucking stick up for him, and you do whatever. If it's a 15-yard penalty, I don't give a shit. Everybody on your team respects you. Your head coach might say, what are you doing? And then go pat you on the back right after. How about
Starting point is 02:48:13 Justin Herbert pat him on the chest? It's alright, big fella. I appreciate you, though, big fella. Jim Harbaugh loves this, obviously. I don't know if he's allowed to say it openly and publicly, even though he probably did. And he said it was one of the dirtiest plays I've seen in some time. He was already down. He was trying to gator roll his leg, continue and do it.
Starting point is 02:48:30 I'm not going to let that happen. That echoes the culture of the team, I think, though, AQ. It's awesome to see. I think Jim is actually preaching that. It's like, hey, don't let these guys hit our quarterback, especially after the play is over. Take matters into your own hands and do shit like this. I believe that ref is from Massachusetts, former Big East ref.
Starting point is 02:48:48 Dog. I think that's that. I think that's a guy. He is a dog. And if he's jumping in, okay. Easy. A lot of those, you know, because the refs understand, too. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 02:48:58 White cap understands exactly what happened right there. Have to call it, but it's okay. I mean, this is the way this whole thing goes. And what's going on on defense's side, D? What are we trying to rip off this guy's leg? It's dirty play. You know, I'm not a pass rusher. I'm not D lineman.
Starting point is 02:49:12 He was under there. Maybe he thought he still had the ball. Or maybe he's just a dirty piece of shit. But either way, in those trenches, you know, it gets ugly. I'm a DB, so I won't talk too much about the guys in those trenches. Smart, what's the third takeaway you think, A shipley austin eckler saves the day what probably the biggest play of the weekend maybe the biggest play of the year on the hail mary of the commanders right nobody's talking about it you guys see this there's a there's a guy lined up over the
Starting point is 02:49:36 center as the nose guard you got two defensive ends that's called three down center sitting there saying three down we're gonna double to double fan this. Guard and tackle should fan left. Guard and tackle should fan right on each side of the center. Guess what happens? Left tackle sets inside. Gets bamboozled. But guess who saves the day? Austin Eckler goes and puts his body on a defensive end. Puts him back on the tackle. Just enough time
Starting point is 02:49:58 to get him back. And then at all costs, no matter what, we're holding. We're throwing. There's a lot of holds going on here. I get it. And then you're going to see a little big bump right there at the end. And then the big throw down the field. Tip. Tud. Tud.
Starting point is 02:50:12 Game over. Austin Eckler kind of saved it all. That thing ends early, you're saying. Yeah, this is sack, hit in the back of the head. Game over if Austin Eckler doesn't block this defensive end because he's unblocked. Tackle, set down inside, should have fanned out, did not,
Starting point is 02:50:27 but once he realized, got back out, Austin Eckler did enough, long enough to put him back on the tackle. A.J. Hawk, go back to the top of the plate. A.J. Hawk, number 53, good feint here to get 73 to dive down, think that the inside's the most dangerous. Yeah, and think about it. Usually you want to flush the guy away from his throwing shoulder, obviously, so you flush
Starting point is 02:50:43 him left, but yeah, when he's going back and forth like this, I like rushing four and bringing somebody and not letting them crow-hop into this. What's 53 doing there? What's the purpose? He's spying, and that's the other point of this. Why the hell would you spy and think that Jaden Daniels is going to run 70 yards for a touchdown?
Starting point is 02:50:59 AQ, is it possible that a lot of times when he is finally flushed, it's that guy's job to go make it so he's not able to crow hop and take three big hops into this throw. But he's so deep, he's in no man's land. That's correct. Yeah, I mean, and the other thing, too, is a lot of times teams will count that as four down.
Starting point is 02:51:15 Since there's only four guys in the box there, they'll say, hey, that's four down. And then right guard over would just slide left, and then you put the back two on one over here to the right. And that's the way to really firm up the protection. Interesting. So Austin Eckler saved the day. We haven't talked about that or heard that at all. Even when he's not scoring touchdowns, he's scoring touchdowns. Unbelievable. Big bump at the end there.
Starting point is 02:51:34 That's Austin Eckler football. Now that we're on this play, I mean, it's only right that we do everything DB, good D, bad D! D-Bucks, let's get started on this. Unfortunately, this is the baddest of D's. We first inducted into the Bad D Hall of Fame. First ballot.
Starting point is 02:51:50 Yeah, I got to talk about it. Unfortunately, who would I be if I did not? You see him down there. I mean, you're talking to the crowd. You got to pay attention because the point that AJ made, if you rewind it to the beginning, when you're talking about finding them kind of out of stacks, if you see number two and number three on the right side of Jayden Daniels,
Starting point is 02:52:07 when you're playing this Hail Mary situation as DBs down here, the three underneath guys, we got to match those guys as they come out. So if I'm a cornerback, which Tyreek Stevenson is there and talk to the crowd, he has number one, whoever becomes final number one. You'll see two and three. They kind of stack behind each other, try to maybe create a little confusion on the guys who are covering them but you got to find them as they come out I got final three you got final two whoever has final one and then obviously everyone has their responsibility which is to get in between the ball and your man and then you have a jumper back there in this situation I think it's 31 obviously Tyreek Stevenson doesn't do anything correct on this play. He's late to the party, jumps up, bats the ball, and then bats it to his guy that he is supposed
Starting point is 02:52:50 to be in front of. So, just all time bad. Obviously, he came out and had some awareness, unlike a lot of guys this week on the mic. He apologized on Twitter. This is awesome. And also apologized to his team. Once again, hopefully, he learns from it. A young player. Hate to see this, but it happens.
Starting point is 02:53:06 Hopefully it's a learning moment for him and kind of everybody else around the league. Yeah, and I appreciate him apologizing for that, acknowledging it, moving on. I think that was a big deal, legitimately a big deal, and I had to put it on the bad defense, pal. I had to. What would this segment have?
Starting point is 02:53:20 This segment would have no integrity if that was not on there after what just happened. Let's get some good D, shall we, pal? Let's get to the good D, Paul. Diamonor Lenore, also known as the hyena. Third and four. Right here, this is third quarter, top of the third quarter. It's a one-score game for Dak and the Cowboys.
Starting point is 02:53:40 It's a cover three. And when you're the flat defender and that pocket moves towards you, you have to expand with your flat. So your flat, it gets wider. This is a one-player route. If you pause it here or a couple frames back, 88, C.D. Lamb, biggest weapon for the Cowboys, only weapon for the Cowboys. A lot of people say this is the only guy that can get the ball.
Starting point is 02:53:58 Third and four, you're trying to get it to the sticks. I think maybe in this situation you turn up the sideline, maybe take a chance with a one-on-one ball. Dak throws it. I don't know why. The CD threw his hands up. And Diamonor, Lenore, who should be a household name at this point. He's been playing some phenomenal football.
Starting point is 02:54:13 Young corner out of Oregon. Plays on the inside. Plays on the outside. Goes up and gets himself an interception. He's putting together a very, very nice year. Probably a Pro Bowl-level year for Lenore. Great job by him. Snag. Fred warner the guys on
Starting point is 02:54:26 the edge they're forcing the quarterback to pull up and then dac i mean you can't make that throw in that situation punt it you know just end it take your loss live to see another drive you can't set up the 49ers with a drive like this in a game like this and he knew he was inbounds right oh yeah i mean the amount of confidence that he i know i'm saying he knew he was inbounds because i'm like as i'm watching live i'm like there's no way he's in bounds. And then he gets up so confident. It's like he's not scared to waste energy to go find a camera. He obviously thinks he was in bounds.
Starting point is 02:54:53 He turned out to be great body control. He going to talk your shit. So if you like DBs, he talk your shit during the game, before the game, after the game. A couple weeks ago he was talking shit to DK Metcalf postgame, which obviously you see a receiver twice a year. You're always going to have a different relationship with them. But great player. He matches up, and he competes week in and week out.
Starting point is 02:55:10 And on that play, I think CD kind of almost helped him stay in balance, trying to break up the interception, kind of threw him right down. Because I think physics would have probably took him out of bounds. Ah, scientists. Scientists, yeah, there we go. Hey, one more. AJ Terrell, big, big game down there in Tampa. His first place in the NFC South.
Starting point is 02:55:29 Right before this play, he had a huge hit in the flat. And then Baker Mayfield went right back to him, the rookie, McMillan. He's coming out of the backfield, runs a wheel route. He kind of baits Baker Mayfield into this one. If you run it back to the beginning, hey, I'm going to play this one receiver because the offense is dialing this up to cut receiver. You want to run that corner back out of there if they're in the zone coverage, and then you want to be one-on-one with the flat defender.
Starting point is 02:55:53 A.J. Terrell sees it, keeps his eyes on the quarterback, comes back flat. And when he got paid, some people, Coach Belichick, hey, you know, you're paying a guy that doesn't get a lot of turnovers. He's a lockdown corner. When his ball production continues to go up, I think he will be one of the best corners in the NFL. Okay. Bank thought he was sitting. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:13 He thought he was sitting. When you draw this up. How often are people baiting quarterbacks? The good ones. The veteran quarterbacks, the guys who are confident. Because a lot of times, man, you have players out there, you're just so caught up in like, hey, let me just do my job. Let me do my job. Let me do my job. Let me be where I'm supposed to be.
Starting point is 02:56:27 But once you kind of get to that level where you hear people say the game slows down, that's the game slowing down for him. Hey, my guy goes inside, get my eyes back to the quarterback and make a phenomenal play on the ball. A couple inches higher as a touchdown. Yeah, just a couple ā€“ two inches. Two inches. Two inches.
Starting point is 02:56:43 Same with that first one, just like ā€“ inches. Two inches. That's the game. Same with that first one. Just like ā€“ Yeah, two inches. That's the game. Here's a potential one-half of a defensive player of the year in A.P. Tone's eyes. Damn right. Fifth interception on the year. Second in the NFL. Only behind Xavier McKinney who got six.
Starting point is 02:56:57 He got his sixth last week as well. Kirby Joseph, out of the post. If you run it back to the very beginning, I mean, it was a phenomenal break on the ball. Once again, game slowing down, understanding formations. You got tight ends and running backs up top, one receiver down here. So you see his initial alignment is to this near hash to the speed. And he knows, hey, the only thing that can come across from this other side that can threaten me is an over route. My cornerback down here, I got faith in him to handle his guy. Key this quarterback once again when you are a zone defender,
Starting point is 02:57:28 which the deep safety is, and you break on Mason Rudolph as soon as he takes the hand off the ball. Unbelievable break on the ball. Picks it off. That's all Kirby Joseph does is turn the football over. Great, great interception. Great, great heads-up play by 31 for his fifth interception on the year. I know Foxy loves this guy.
Starting point is 02:57:45 Love it. And it seems like every time they get a. I know Foxy loves this guy. Love it. And it seems like every time they get a turnover, him or Brian Branch, we score off it. I don't know what the stats are, but we score every single time. Taking advantage of opportunities. Points off turnovers are a big stat. That's why it's always up there. Because you're stealing a position from the other team,
Starting point is 02:57:58 but also we're doing something with it. That's why it's all points off turnovers are a big deal. Field position. Lions doing a lot of things right. Lions doing a lot of things right. Field position as well. They obviously had a bunch of big returns in the kicking game, but this is a big return on defense. Not only after picking it off, but now you're
Starting point is 02:58:13 setting your offense up inside the 20 on their first snap. Anzalone still flying around. Oh yeah. Jack Campbell up there. And this defense loves to punch the ball out. Amik Robertson had two punch outs in this game. Hold on, they had to throw that over defense loves to punch the ball out. Amik Robertson had two punch-outs in this game. Hold on. They had to throw that over Jack.
Starting point is 02:58:27 Jack put the lane back. He's been playing well. Jack did a sell here. Jack was baiting him. Jack was baiting him. Jack was baiting him into it. Getting the goddamn banana peel off the turn. Yeah, but he had to throw it higher.
Starting point is 02:58:40 Look, because he's in the way. So he felt Jack Campbell there had to throw it a little bit higher, a little slower. I got that. Well, you're welcome, Kirby. Watch him just go look for a body. Let me go get a body here. Bang! That's another situation.
Starting point is 02:58:56 That's awesome. Go ahead. Jack's been great in the run game. He's been great in the run game. He was great here. He caused this interception. He baited him. He baited this throw.
Starting point is 02:59:04 First and ten, a lot of big bodies on the field. You're thinking run. You guys handle here. He caused the interception. He baited this throw. First and ten, a lot of big bodies on the field. You're thinking run. You guys Rudolph thought he was gone. Rudolph said, this guy's cleared out. He can't see him. It's like Darren Sproles behind the offensive line. Jack Campbell said, everybody sees me. Let me hide here. And then he pops up, bitch, I'm here. And Rudolph goes, I got to throw a little higher,
Starting point is 02:59:20 a little slower, and then bang, all of a sudden, what happened? House call. Another situation where a DB, free safety, understanding game. If that's a young slower, and then bang, all of a sudden, what happened? House call. Hey, another situation where a DB, free safety, understanding game. If that's a young player, maybe a guy. That was two big booms. Boom. Fucking boom. Boom.
Starting point is 02:59:35 Two big booms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Five booms. Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right, let's go to the next one. Let's go to the next one, man. All right.
Starting point is 02:59:42 One, McMillian, Nickelback. This secondary, I love this defense. I love this secondary in Denver. They are playing the Carolina Panthers here, so it was actually some back and forth with Bruce. I'm like, Bruce, you know what? It's a great play. It's against the Panthers.
Starting point is 02:59:55 But phenomenal play in the red area. We always talk about not panicking as a DB. So when you are in phase, DB coach will tell you, hey, get your head around or play the hands if you're out of phase. He's in phase. He's confident. Not only does he play the hands, but gets his head around, intercepts his ball. An absolutely unbelievable play
Starting point is 03:00:14 by this Nickelback. Made huge plays last year as well. Playing great again. You'll see a better view here from the TV. He is still looking the opposite direction. If he doesn't get his head turned around, that's P.I. That's what he always gets mad when guys don't get their head around. He jumps, and as he's jumping, turns his head around and gets a pick.
Starting point is 03:00:30 A lot of times, quarterbacks get bailed out by this type of throw because DB panics, and they just kind of play through their hands or play the receiver. Where the hell is the ball? There's a great job getting his head around and catching his ball. Because if he doesn't, it's P.I. P.I. for pi yeah for sure oh my goodness that's so late he turns around oh look what's here look at the the orange spat and the orange tights are sweet too yeah yeah denver denver doing some good things on defense man big time play carolina i
Starting point is 03:00:59 guess this wide receiver coker was a huge reason they traded Deontay. This dude right there. Yeah. It's an unbelievable play. Yeah. What a play, man. Yeah, this is a big play. Unbelievable play. Are you kidding me? Talking about not panicking, having awareness, having confidence in yourself to get around catch the ball.
Starting point is 03:01:15 Sorry, Bryce. That's the NFL. That's not on Bryce. That's not on Bryce. Well, kind of. I agree, though. I agree. Great play.
Starting point is 03:01:24 Great play. That should have hit him in the back of the head. Should have been PI. But instead, this guy has actual sixth sense there. Football. Give me that. Unbelievable play. Then the last one.
Starting point is 03:01:33 Wait a second. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Is this the Caucasian cornerback? We got white. Dilly going crazy. We got history.
Starting point is 03:01:43 We had Bad D Hall of Fame earlier. This is our, I think, second white cornerback that we've had now every two years this year. Now, fourth and one. If you run this back to the beginning, he's matched up with Jamar Chase. Young rookie DB, Jamar Chase, high leverage situation, fourth and one. I'm sure A.J. Hawk has seen this route plenty of times, usually in the red area or in short yardage situations. We call this the Jerry Rice pass. He made it famous.
Starting point is 03:02:06 Walsh made it famous back in the day. You put that receiver back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Snap the ball. So he usually beats that DB. Getting to the flat. Cooper Dejean does a phenomenal job tracking the pre-snap and then post-snap using the speed and explosiveness. Not only to get there, but to make this tackle behind the line scrimmage on a big fourth down once again to set up your offense in an advantageous
Starting point is 03:02:28 situation. Can you run it back quick? Who's this corner down here? He's signaling him, too. Hey, go over the top, go over the top. I don't want to pick you here, too. Watch. Next man up, that's Isaiah Rogers Cromartie. Welcome back! Former pro. Welcome back!
Starting point is 03:02:42 Got suspended, bounced back, hopefully learned from his mistakes. He had a big play later in this game as well. PBU that turned into an interception from CJ. He passed it to a guy. Yeah, great, great batting. That almost made the list. But this was an unbelievable play by Cooper Dejean on Jamar Chase.
Starting point is 03:02:58 When you see this from the back copy, and I'm sure AJ can appreciate this, as a nickel defender, this is something I had to do a lot. You never want to run in front of the linebackers, right? It's a fourth and one, but you never want to get in front of the linebackers to mess up their reads when it comes to run pass and everything that they got going on. So as a DB, you want to be behind those linebackers. He does a great job staying out of their way, getting around the traffic,
Starting point is 03:03:20 and making a phenomenal tackle in a big, big game. A.Q., you've been a part of play calling before. Zach Taylor said there's a white guy out there. We're going at him. Yeah, let's do it. Milk check? There's a milk check here? No doubt.
Starting point is 03:03:31 With a motion milk check. He got no shot. Caucasian sensation. We are going at him. Hey, nerd. Big play, man. Hey, he's on everything DB. Good D.
Starting point is 03:03:39 I know. I'm glad D-Bud used this because I sent it to him and said, hey, this fucking better be on there. Oh, so there's a little campaigning. Yeah, a little bit. But, I mean, it is. Zach Taylor should have maybe looked at how good of an athlete Cooper DeGene was before he decided to dial this up.
Starting point is 03:03:53 How about that athlete at halftime at Iowa? 4-1-5. Unreal. I mean, okay. Guy ran a 4-1-5-40. Not impressed? I don't know if I buy that. He was moving.
Starting point is 03:04:04 He was moving. He was moving. He was moving. He was moving. This Iowa track and field guy, you should be all in on this entire thing. Nah, I'd work a lot of those events. Those fucking suck. I could do without the track and field stuff. Setting hurdles, fucking moving them, doing them, moving them.
Starting point is 03:04:18 Oh, no. But, yeah, he was moving. He was moving all right. He was rolling. 4-1-5 this guy. Come on. I mean, that's fast. So fast. He looked super fast The guy can't catch a ball
Starting point is 03:04:28 Can't find a spot for him Especially on that Can we not get jet sweep with this guy We got another white guy who's an absolute burner Only one He returned punt for a touchdown against Northwestern He's good We can find a spot for a 4-1-5-40, can we not?
Starting point is 03:04:46 We probably could, but it's the same thing. Listen, this is Iowa football, okay? Is this guy going to block? Is he going to get his fucking nose dirty? Fundamentals. Yeah, exactly. Maybe. Is Cade McNamara even going to be able to fucking hit this guy? No, he's not.
Starting point is 03:05:02 Now, Sullivan might be able to, but again, we just don't do that kind of stuff. We just don't. Good. Guy's got a 4-1-5-40. Go win a Big Ten championship in sprinting. Bring it home. We need it.
Starting point is 03:05:17 Bring it home to the field house. Come on. He said it was an awesome environment, great atmosphere. How about him showing up? Only get one opportunity. This is awesome. It's hard to look fast running by yourself. I agree. You're running away from people or chasing somebody down. Okay, but when you're just running by, like, that looked like legit 4-1.
Starting point is 03:05:35 Stadium. Full stadium, just this guy. All right, assholes running a 40 in here. Let's turn all eyes on this guy. He knew all week he had one opportunity at it. Like, them making a full song and dance out of this, obviously this all eyes on this guy. He knew all week he had one opportunity at it. Them making a full song and dance out of this, obviously this guy has done this before. To make it a show,
Starting point is 03:05:50 I appreciate that. Good halftime show. He was moving. We can't Forrest Gump kick off, hand the fucking thing to him and just say, We got Wetch who just took one to the house. Let's fucking put some pads on this guy. Spring ball next year. Let's see what he's got. How old is he? I think he's a senior. I don't know. Let's fucking put some pads on this guy. Spring ball next year. Let's see what he's got.
Starting point is 03:06:05 How old is he? I think he's a senior. Yeah, I don't know. We don't need him. Chiefs will have him as a... Yeah, those usually work out. Yep. Track guys. Justin Gatlin. Yeah. Walter Dix, who I love. Ty Rick's a track guy, though, right?
Starting point is 03:06:22 But he's a football player. He's a football player who can track. Yeah, exactly. Who else? Is there anybody else in the league? I mean, there was a guy Sean Jackson. Wasn't Jalen Ramsey a track guy too though? A lot of the UM guys back in the day, I think they all ran track. But once again, football
Starting point is 03:06:38 players who can run track, it's the difference when you're like, oh, you run a 10-2, 10-5, put them on a football field, run a fly route, you get hit, cross that you run a 10-2, 10-5, put them on a football field, run a fly rod, you get hit across that middle one time. That shit changes. Get off the field. No, Lars. No, Lars could hit a jet sweep.
Starting point is 03:06:51 Yeah. No, Lars. No way. Got to make sure he's healthy, but he could hit a jet sweep. That guy is tiny, you know. Those quads, though. Yeah, for sure. Like I said, incredibly impressive.
Starting point is 03:07:03 If he wanted to play football at Iowa, I assume he'd play football at Iowa. But he's a track star. I expected a little bit more hype out of you. I thought you were going to say me. I thought he was going to be all in on it. No, I mean, I saw it, and I was like, oh, shit, that's pretty sweet. But, you know, what else am I going to do with that?
Starting point is 03:07:19 It took away some time, I guess, from the Iowa Hawkeye band, which we know is the best damn band in the land. Yeah, to middle. Exactly. We know that. How's the Ohio State band this year? I haven't heard much chatter about the Ohio State. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 03:07:31 Killing it. That's how they like it. Under the radar. Killing it. That's not how they like it, right? That's not how the Ohio State band works. They do their thing, and it absolutely captivates everybody there every time they do it. Santa hasn't been very loud at Ohio State home games this year.
Starting point is 03:07:43 Really? What's that all about? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I hear people have been complaining about the game day atmosphere. What? Not people, but you know. That means internet.
Starting point is 03:07:52 One or two people. Uh-oh. Oh, no. What type of team has not shown up here at State College? Uh-oh. The culture? The pageantry's broken? Got a hungry team.
Starting point is 03:08:00 No one said the culture. What are the vibes like in the building? Aren't they throwing stuff? I think very good. Hey, Cush, how's the band up there? So they got this drum major that it's like a myth. Runs 50 yards, does a front flip, and if they land it, the myth is they're going to win the game.
Starting point is 03:08:18 Who's that, you guys? Wow. How often does he land it? Almost every time. Front flips are harder than back flips. Yeah, for sure. Front flips aren't't easy you don't see your landing you know like backflips you see your landing like so round off back flip eat much easier than just running front flip much much easier because you see where the fuck you need to go yeah he's running and then doing a front flip with that big hat jump stop with the big hat jump stop front flip no tramp big hat on? Jump stop with the big hat. Jump stop, front flip. No trampoline? We're talking just ground?
Starting point is 03:08:46 He's wearing cleats? It has to be. Yeah, because if he runs and slips and, oh my gosh, we lose by 100? Yeah. What a dog. What's the drum major? Yeah, drum major. That's a lot of pressure. Yeah, I was going to say the whole season is riding on this guy doing fucking front
Starting point is 03:09:01 flips. Against Ohio State? Yeah. Okay. That's it. Right in the middle of the field? Where is he going? Right in the 50-yard line. Is Franklin, like, front row, chewing on a straw? He's not even out yet. Landing, kid. Landing, kid.
Starting point is 03:09:12 This is before the team comes out. It's like the big thing right before the We Are. It's like the whole pageantry before the game. Is he high-stepping? Or are they high-stepping? Or are they just full sprint trying to fucking get their time together? That's so dumb. It's a full sprint. No, it's like a... Oh, high-stepping, or are they just full sprint trying to fucking get their time? That's so dumb. It's a full sprint.
Starting point is 03:09:26 No, it's like a high-stepping. High-step into a front flip? Yeah. Oh, my God. In full costume? In full costume. Wow. Ohio State's got a good chance this weekend, I feel like.
Starting point is 03:09:38 No, I haven't seen said flipper, but I don't know. I don't know. That's a big weekend this week. Big weekend. Biggest day on campus, you said, every single year?'t know. That's a big weekend this week. Big weekend. Biggest day on campus, you said, every single year? Every year. Who's the flipper? Can we look up who the flipper is this weekend?
Starting point is 03:09:50 And what's the flipping percentage? And is that how you choose? That's a terrible. Was that going on when you were there? Like, they had to continue to find these new drum majors that can do this? Yeah, every, and once they graduate, they find the next one. I remember yours, AJ. You remember yours?
Starting point is 03:10:02 Oh, my God. Running down a tunnel. Boom. Mouthful of turf. Lost at home. That was a big deal. That was a big deal. Oh, AJ. You remember yours? Oh, my God. Running down a tunnel. Boom. Mouthful of turf. Lost at home. That was a big deal. That was a big deal. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:10:09 Remember that? He bends backwards and touches his hat on the ground. What if they fall? You guys definitely lose. I don't think they've ever fallen. No. Remember? Eight sheep. Running down.
Starting point is 03:10:21 Maybe running down, but that's normal. That happens to everybody. Did you ever dot the I, AJ? Can't happen to a walking drum major. No. no there's there's very yeah i mean like what jack nicholas archie griffin just finally dot the i they don't that doesn't really happen who does it normally said person drum people that are in the band that have been there it's like a huge thing they haven't picked out before and yeah it's like a big deal oh like a sixth year trumpet like the lead trump yeah he's gonna do the dotting of the i announced the name and it's like a whole-year trumpet, like the lead trumpet is going to do the dotting of the I. They announce the name, and it's like a whole, yeah, it's a thing.
Starting point is 03:10:47 It's a big deal. I remember that. I was on the side. I remember it was like, I think they family, they even showed the family of, like, it's a big deal. Big ordeal. I thought the general just, like, elbowed his way down there and did it every home game. Well, he actually does do the running front flip to dot the I. Sure.
Starting point is 03:10:59 He actually lands on said trumpet person that gets chosen. The general inevitably is the dot of the eye every week right it's just other people standing in his way sure here's penn state dandy alliance do we got it we are best oh here's this this right here gotta be shit holy shit it's a lot of, my God. The whole damn game is relying upon those boots. Those are not cleats. Are they? No.
Starting point is 03:11:30 Yeah, I think they are cleats. There's some studs in there. Does that count? That counts. Oh, and the count split kind of thing. Okay, all right. Okay, so if you go fast enough, I think you can inevitably get feet overhead. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:49 But there was a couple bobbles there, so I guess the judges in the Olympics don't care. This is not the guy I would have picked, I don't think, but... This guy's earned it. Get it. He does two. Two flips. Oh. Oh, kind of sideways, too.
Starting point is 03:12:03 Yeah. All right, I appreciate that. Pussy! Wow. Way to go. What the... I appreciate that. Pussy. Wow. Way to go. What? You did it. You won the game?
Starting point is 03:12:10 Yeah. They won. You won the game. They won that game. Our team quit. I assume. I assume they won that one. If we're doing Olympic judging there, those are a little sideways here.
Starting point is 03:12:20 That's all right. I'd imagine the difficulty score with the boots on, though. I mean, his hat covering the eyes. I mean, the hat's covering the eyes. Did you see that? That don't qualified. I'd imagine the difficulty score with the boots on, though. I mean, his hat covers the eyes. I mean, the hat's covering the eyes. Did you see that? That don't matter. They've had to tear ACLs. They've had to get hurt.
Starting point is 03:12:32 Oh, don't even put that out there. I don't want to, but I'm sure, unfortunately, that person's got to limp through it and do the splits again. You've got to tear your ACL. You've got to jump up and run back and flip into the end zone. I'll tell you what. If they did, I know what they wouldn't do. What's that?
Starting point is 03:12:45 Tap out? Yeah. You can't. Not the drum major. Just scrape your body off that field before that guy's tapping. Oh, here it is. Here's a side shot of it. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- Rock and roll Over rotating having too much momentum Landing and then falling forward And then face plant
Starting point is 03:13:06 Big fear would be not rotating Just taking a header right off the field That's the big one Then over rotation is the next one Because then you're just doing a Big pop from the crowd That was the best one right there. AQ, what about if it's raining or snowing
Starting point is 03:13:28 and the field's a little slick? They're wearing cleats. They're doing it. What's the name of said flipper? Can we find out how many flippers there are, too? That's a big deal. Who's flipping this weekend? And can we get the flip on game day? Can we get a practice flip on game day? You guys will be on the field, right?
Starting point is 03:13:43 Oh, a practice one. You're going to say you'll be on the field for it, right? Yeah, me acting like I have that say to do that too. What the fuck am I even talking about? I thought that was just like every 12 o'clock game. My bad. We will be going to the field.
Starting point is 03:13:58 But I'm saying like first hour. Carson Padachi. Oh, Carson Padachi. An IST data sciences student. Information, science, technology. Who's Jimmy Frisbee? Who the fuck? Who the fuck is Jimmy Frisbee?
Starting point is 03:14:13 This is Penn State flipping for the drum major a video of Jimmy Frisbee performing the flip. Penn State drum major White Owl flip a video of drum major performing the flip during the 2021 White Owl pregame show. So, okay, here we go. He also worked with Penn State's Club Gymnastics to perfect his skill. Since 1977. Padachi trained with former
Starting point is 03:14:31 drum majors and their trainers and participated in a virtual audition. So I can nail it. Then went to Club Gymnastics. It's the secret weapon of the Penn State. Did they say how many they've fallen? How many times they've fallen? It's not about how many times you've fallen. It's about how many times you get up.
Starting point is 03:14:47 How many games is James Franklin? That's true. That's so true. All right, dude. Good luck with the Datchy this weekend. Biggest day of the year. Come on. Biggest flip of the year. That's a ton of pressure, man.
Starting point is 03:14:56 Show up. Can you imagine your first time doing that? We were just talking about punting and kicking earlier about how you just have to sit on it and wait on it whenever something happens. It's like, for that, you all week gotta nail it wake up a little tight oh no oh no let's get the cayenne pepper in the water yep let's get that and then let's say you first one you do stumble a little bit now you're thinking oh god i got another one i gotta
Starting point is 03:15:22 fucking hit here i'm only halfway home and if you miss that you gotta sit in that In that costume for the rest of the game People just blaming you It was your fault Jimmy Frisbee They'd probably take the whole hat off So they just blend in with the rest of the band Don't let them know who I am How come you don't do any front flips
Starting point is 03:15:42 These are long over You a trampoline guy you ever get on trampolines You have one at the house How come you don't do any front flips? These are long over. You a trampoline guy? You ever get on trampolines? Oh, yeah. You ever went at the house? Yeah. Do it with the kids.
Starting point is 03:15:50 I got some flip videos on the trampoline. You did? I remember seeing you move a little bit. Yeah. Our generation, I think, trampolines. Yeah. Yeah. Younger generation, they still do trampolines or no?
Starting point is 03:15:59 Oh, I don't know. We did. My kids do. My nephews have them. Whole places now. Jump places. Sky Zone. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They love that.
Starting point is 03:16:06 Sky Zone's sick. Anybody run any wrestling promotions out of these trampoline things? My boys play. My youngest play Oklahoma against each other every day. They lay on their backs, and one of them has a football, and they just get up and kill each other. In the trampoline? Yeah, every day.
Starting point is 03:16:21 Do they use tables and halogen light bulbs? Yeah, and hockey nets. Old superhuman.ogen light bulbs? Yeah, and like hockey nets Old superhuman No, they don't, but they do They have fallen out a few times Where you zip the thing in That's been open, they fly out The foot through the
Starting point is 03:16:37 Oh, the springs? Oh man, that is scary And then you talk about over-rotating Trying to hit a double whoop-de-woo finisher on some kid and then shooting yourself off the trampoline. Like, obviously, when they made the walls to the trampoline, that was a big advance in the entire thing. Because, boy, I was just shot putting myself off those trampolines in a big way.
Starting point is 03:16:59 Yeah, no good. I was a trampoline wrestler a couple times. That's where it all began big power bombs and fucking then somebody come rushing and hit me with something it would hurt so bad the one two three I'm a loser those are the good old days that's really good old days there it is sidewalk slam and that was Rhino boom there's warigg catching one. Boom.
Starting point is 03:17:27 Oh, G.O. There's me and Matt Overton at Monday Night Raw. Mm-hmm. Matt Overton. I miss the wrestling world. He snapped for the Dolphins. Is he still your snapper? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:36 What's his name's not back? The Ferguson. What happened? I don't know. Said it was personal. Ovi was ready. Ovi's okay? Yeah. Overton stays ready. Ovi's okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:47 Overton stays ready. Always. He's been good. That's right. It's Matt Overton football. Stay ready. That's right. That's his motto, right?
Starting point is 03:17:56 Are you ready to give out an award that you've been giving out every single week that people actually look forward to? Let's go. Always. AJ, do you look forward to it in Ohio? Absolutely. Everybody here does. People tell me. They come to me on the street and ask me about it.
Starting point is 03:18:05 They're like, hey, let's go. In the trenches with A.Q. Shipley. Here we go. Top five performing O-lines from week eight of the NFL season. Number five. The Washington Commander. Wow. Let's go, Corby.
Starting point is 03:18:23 They're doing a great job. And listen, this is just another week for them running for over 100 yards. A lot of it has to do with the quarterback at times, but we get both guards pulling here. He's a rookie. You just said that. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? Yeah, he is really good. So, check out both guards pulling. Do you remember the play early in the season
Starting point is 03:18:38 where we showed the hustle play by the wide receiver? Yep. Same exact play, except early in the season, they did it center and guard, right? This time, because of the orbit motion, they go both guards to time up the timing a little bit better with the pull. You get two kickouts. You get Zach Ertz at the second level, who's not known as a blocker, doing a great job on 53, kicking him out.
Starting point is 03:18:56 And then you get a hell of a run up right there. Look at that little hole right there. Look at that little hole. That is a good cut right there. That is a good cut right there. Beautiful. Patient, patient, patient, patient, and then hit it. Offense line really good in Washington, huh?
Starting point is 03:19:09 I love the group. I love the center, Biotish. I absolutely love, I mean, the two guards, Cosme, awesome. He was a first-round pick. And then Allegretti they brought over from the Chiefs. I love their interior three. Okay. Commies, do they have a chance to go on a real run?
Starting point is 03:19:21 They do. They got great backs. They got great receivers. They got, obviously, a great quarterback, and they've got a good offensive line. And then the play caller is making a big difference. We all know that. Cliff Kingsbury, absolute dog.
Starting point is 03:19:31 Congrats to Cliff. He'll keep us on his radar. Maybe get you to stop by. Who's the number four performing offensive line of Week 8, A.Q. Shipley? We have the Buffalo Bills. Wow. Love you. Love you.
Starting point is 03:19:45 Finally make an appearance. They have been fantastic Bills. Wow. Love you. Love you. Finally make an appearance. They have been fantastic all year. They just kind of, a couple plays here and there, I've kept them off. This play's awesome. Big Dawkins left tackle. Watch this. We man the backside. We're going to loop Big Dawkins around.
Starting point is 03:19:57 Loop to the right. Deion Dawkins. It's called a slice. He comes up. You don't want this. You don't want this smoke linebacker. Boom. That looked like Holden, didn't it? Was linebacker. Boom! That looked like Holden.
Starting point is 03:20:06 Was he Holden? That's beautiful. No Holden. That is beautiful. That's 350 pounds. Get on the fucking round. Jeez, Louie. He knows. He knows. You see him pop up? Yeah, absolutely. I love that. How do we feel about the Bills? The Bills killed the Seattle Seahawks
Starting point is 03:20:22 in Seattle. Bills' mafia infiltrated Seattle. Are we worried about Seattle, and then how do we feel about the Bills? Pretty wild statement when Iawks in seattle bills mafia infiltrated seattle are we worried about seattle and then how do we feel about the bills pretty wild statement when i heard that because seattle's i mean known by all of us that ever played there right it's like that's the loudest place by far and the fact that bills mafia went in there and made them feel like it was a home game that's crazy that is crazy it's crazy to think about congrats to bills hey always sneaky in it. Always sneaky. People have been calling for their window to be closed.
Starting point is 03:20:47 Shut the window. Shut the window. Shut the window. It's spring, baby. The window's open for the Buffalo Bills. That's what Bean says. Yeah, well, I mean, when you can change the rules and still lose at home, who cares, you know?
Starting point is 03:20:58 Let's see them beat the big dogs. What are you talking about changing the rules? You're talking about overtime? Yeah, that was for one team and one team only, and they got home field advantage and still blew it. So this is cool. You know, beating Seattle. When Seattle's beating three very bad teams, but it's cool.
Starting point is 03:21:14 Coach McDonald's under a little bit of a ā€“ remember, they pushed Pete Carroll out of there. They did. They got a new thing. Maybe it's going to take some time to get it together. They were rapping in public. They were. Remember, the coaches were doing the entire thing?
Starting point is 03:21:26 Hey, Seahawks fans, let's go. You guys are great. Star 3-0. You guys are great. Buffalo Beal is making an appearance on the top five. Who's the number three? Somebody in this room is going to be very happy. The Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 03:21:40 Hell yeah. Did Ty text you this as well, like he did Darius and say he's better be on? No, he did not. But this is an awesome play, right? So Malik Willis is in at quarterback, which, again, this play probably only works if he's in there. You're going to see the safety come off the weak side. They're going to run one back power to the right.
Starting point is 03:21:53 But because he's looking at him, right, and we get the little zone read, like type of look out of the one back power, it holds him, which creates the backside cut, and then we're off for the touchdown. You guys see that? Because if that's Jordan Love, he probably just hits the mesh point and it's tackled for a two-yard loss. But because of that, the eyes looks at him, and the threat of a running quarterback, touchdown.
Starting point is 03:22:15 How are you supposed to stop this jump cut? This second jump cut, like, come on now. This is unbelievable. It's incredible. I love what the Lions do. Look at them. They're moving people off the ball too. Right here.
Starting point is 03:22:25 You're coming up right here. Here we go the Lions do. Look at them. They're moving people off the ball, too. Right here. You coming up right here. Watch this. Come on. How good is that? How good is that? Outside leg. Two, four. Outside leg.
Starting point is 03:22:34 Look at the sand from Duvall pop up, too. That's tough. There's a photo, I bet, of Josh mid-cut with that sand behind him. Maybe up in the air or something like that. Did you see that Jaden Daniels photo? Sick. So sick. I bet you this has a pretty ā€“ Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:22:52 I bet you there's some camera that found it great. This Packers team's for real. They win with Malik being quarterback. Yeah. Ty's not worried. No, no. And it's because of, I think, what showed uh back whenever malik was playing for him the floor has an offense built for malik willis to be this style quarterback absolutely he's been in
Starting point is 03:23:09 this world with marcus mariotta we've pointed that out and he has a plan for it right like there's a whole plan and it's crazy to think that way because typically you want the same skill set as your starter and your backup but this guy's a completely different skill set and he has a whole different package to run with him instead of forcing forcing him to play that offense, LaFleur continues. And we were obviously very wrong about a lot of things in that whole situation. LaFleur, though, guy knows ball. He absolutely knows ball. Guy knows ball.
Starting point is 03:23:34 And this is exactly what they thought they were getting when they were okay with letting Aaron Jones walk. Like, Josh Jacob, this is the guy who led the NFL in rushing a couple years ago. Like, he's been unbelievable week in and week out for them. Who's the number two performing offensive line from week eight in the trenches with A.Q. Shipley? Let's go to the Philadelphia Eagles. Whoa! Okay.
Starting point is 03:23:56 Saquon's been incredible. Their offensive line's been incredible. Let's take a look. First, we're going to watch the center, then we'll come back and peek at Lane Johnson, who's obviously one of the best to ever do it, right? Let's watch. They're going to full zone this.
Starting point is 03:24:05 The nose guard makes a fucking wild move to go back behind the backside guard when the zone's all going to left. Wow, he takes himself completely out of the play, which is a wild move. But let's watch Juergens climb up on a DB, and whenever you get a chance to hit a DB, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 03:24:18 What are you going to do? You're going to put him on the fucking ground. Just throw him out of the club. Throw him out of the club. Damn. Get out of the club. No one in the club. No white tees. That's right. The club is here. You are of the club. No white tees.
Starting point is 03:24:25 The club is here. You are not in it. Sorry. See ya. The beautiful thing about them, when they game plan this, because you're going to get the motion going to the right. Listen, there's two backers in the box. It's a zone team, so now they bump a DB as the second backer. That's part of it. Let's also watch Lane Johnson. Look at the little box out.
Starting point is 03:24:42 Once you get the backside cutoff, there's no reason to wheel back on it and give the guy a chance to go over the top. You have the cutoff right there. It's over. He gets a little rip. Now he just butt blocks him. Look at that. A little fucking box out.
Starting point is 03:24:52 Is that a hole? Is that a hole? No hole? Just sit there and box him out. He can't get through, and there's the hole. And then he celebrates, too. Lane loved the move he made right there. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 03:25:01 Worked out perfectly. Unbelievable. Lane's going to get a lot of boards, I think, if he's playing basketball. Yeah, no doubt about it. He's probably very good at basketball fighting, I guess. Super athlete. He ran like a 4.7, didn't he? Yeah, he's a freak.
Starting point is 03:25:11 He played quarterback in college. Lane is a freak. In college? Well, junior college before he got there. He had it, but yeah. Still, good save it block here in special teams. He's doing it because he gets the upfield shoulder. That's all you need, right?
Starting point is 03:25:22 That's it. Stay there. So many times guys turn back there, and the minute you turn back, stop your leverage, they beat you over the top. And it's like, why did I do that? Just continue there, block out. He's a ass. That's it.
Starting point is 03:25:32 He's an ass. Yeah. An ass. That's why you do those squats. That's it. That's why you hold. You can hold when you're not looking at him. That's right.
Starting point is 03:25:40 Give him a bear hug backwards. Just lock him in. I didn't even know who it was, ref. Yeah, exactly. What? I wouldn't hold anybody. I had my arms. I was cramping. I was cramping. I thought that bear hug backwards. Just lock him in. I didn't even know who it was, ref. Yeah, exactly. What? I wouldn't hold anybody. I had my arms around. I was cramping.
Starting point is 03:25:46 I was cramping. I thought that was Jalen. Just like this. And by the way, I don't want us to pass the point. Russell Wilson needs being a baby, Bjorn. Yep. He does. Needs being a baby.
Starting point is 03:25:56 Just like that. With TJ. I don't know why they haven't done it yet. I agree. Let's go to the number one performed offensive line from week eight of the NFL season. In the trenches with AQ Shipley, it is... The Detroit Lions. Wow.
Starting point is 03:26:08 Who would have guessed? It seems like they're winning every week. Every single week. No parody of this league. No, exactly. That's right. Absolutely love this group. Obviously, from left to right, they're incredible.
Starting point is 03:26:20 Let's look at the center here, right? Does everybody know who number 98 is right there on defense? Jeffrey Simmons. He's pretty good. Jeffrey Simmons, pretty good player. know who number 98 is right there on defense? Jeffrey Simmons. He's pretty good. Jeffrey Simmons, pretty good player. Makes about $100 million. He's an all pro. He's a pro bowler.
Starting point is 03:26:30 Let's watch a little chip by Glasgow. Let's watch the reach by Frank Ragnow. This is unbelievable. You want to talk about fucking getting leverage on a guy? You got the leverage. Now you keep wheeling around. You keep running. Look at that.
Starting point is 03:26:40 Do you know how strong and easy he just made that look? Hold on. That's the hit, hit. That's it. That's that drill right there, right? That's it. He's got one peck, too, right? And with one peck.
Starting point is 03:26:50 One and a half. That's the crazy thing. One and a half. And the only thing you need to point out about this is, like, the thing that's crazy about it is once he feels, once the defensive tackle knows, AJ, you know this, right? The minute they feel the chip, they ricochet because they have the A-gap, right? He's supposed to ricochet back front side.
Starting point is 03:27:06 He can't because Frank is so strong and his technique and his leverage is incredible. And then guess what? Let's just go 70 yards to the house. It's pretty fucking good. Two big ones in back-to-back weeks there. It's unbelievable. They had another one from the 10-yard line
Starting point is 03:27:21 that they ran in. You guys have all seen it. Penny Sewell on the backside. Jeffrey Simmons, 12 yards into the end zone. Jeez. 12 yards. It's incredible what they're doing. Detroit Lions were number three last week.
Starting point is 03:27:34 They're now number one. Philadelphia Eagles were number one last week. They were the number two performing offensive line this week. Uh-oh. Okay. Washington Commanders making repeat appearances in the top five. And then Packers and Bills, welcome to the party.
Starting point is 03:27:47 How do you feel about the NFC? What happened to the Indianapolis Colts? They struggled this week, too. They've been good, but they struggled this week. Both offensive lines in that game struggled. Houston might be the worst offensive line in the league. Which is why AFC South, they've got a lot of injuries done. I don't like
Starting point is 03:28:04 it. I like the Texans. I like the Texans. I love the Texans. The Texans would be very good to us. Love Casario. Yeah. He's an American nightmare. He is. He was happy that Cody Rhodes finished his story. We had great conversations about that. I love Casario.
Starting point is 03:28:43 I love the way he operates. I love the way D'Amico Ryans is that head coach. I like the moves they've been making. I like that McNair, the owner, said, you know what? This is a dumpster fire. I need to maybe back myself out of this entire situation. I like what C.J. Stroud's doing. He's awesome on the field, off the field, as a franchise guy.
Starting point is 03:28:58 They got a lot of injuries down there, though. A lot of injuries. But they don't on the offensive line. Oh, no. It's all invested. Oh, no. And they're stinking. Not Oh, no. It's all invested. Oh, no. And they're stinking. They're not there, though.
Starting point is 03:29:08 It's not great. The left tackle makes $25 million. The left guard was a first-round pick. The right tackle was a first-round pick. The center was a second-round pick. The right guard makes $10 million a year. He used to be in New England. He's a good player.
Starting point is 03:29:19 They should be better. AFC South is gettable. AFC South is gettable. It is gettable. Not for the Colts. Let's go. What? Definitely for the Colts. Second place. Definitely for the Colts. Let's go. What? Definitely for the Colts.
Starting point is 03:29:25 Second place. Definitely for the Colts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go, Flacco. Come on. Come on. Let's live in real world first. I'm intrigued to see how Joe plays.
Starting point is 03:29:35 I'm intrigued. Minnesota Vikings defense. Welcome to the game, Joe. Yeah, Joe. Hey, you got Brian Flores' defense. Yeah, he knows you're playing now, too. Yeah. So Flores knows it's you for four days.
Starting point is 03:29:45 Welcome back, brother. Hey, you don't turn the ball over against the Vikings. You'll be all right. I think it's good news that, like, AR against his Vikings defense would have been ā€“ Yeah, not good. You know? I mean, there's a chance that this is the game where he, you know,
Starting point is 03:30:01 plays his best ball. I guess that could happen any time at any given moment. But it's like Flacco coming in here against the vikings defense what if he does just take an absolute slacking and then ar's back next week and shane's like we just wanted to you know just we thought that defense we have a chance we'll see how it goes that's a storyline for the rest of the season joe and anthony yeah well shane came out and said joe's the guy going forward so Mm-hmm. Joe and Anthony.
Starting point is 03:30:21 Yeah. Well, Shane came out and said, Joe's the guy going forward, so. Well, then Anthony came out and said I wasn't told why. I didn't even know. What a shit show. Didn't know until you told me. It's going to all work out, though. Always does.
Starting point is 03:30:36 All work out. It's going to work out because it has to. Has to. Has to. No other choice. Legit. Well, there is one choice, I guess, but it's the worst outcome for everything. Yeah, you just. Other than that, it has to work out.
Starting point is 03:30:46 Never forget that. That's a good life motto, actually. It's going to work out because it has to. It might suck, but it's going to work out. That's right. Joe Flacco is taking a call to the Super Bowl. That's awesome. What day is it?
Starting point is 03:30:57 October 30th? Sweet. Happy I have that on the record, especially with these fucking shoes. Yeah. Those are sweet. They're gone they're somewhere the Flacco's yeah oh the cleats oh they're in that they're on the dummy yeah this is cleatsumble Yeah that's what happens
Starting point is 03:31:25 With corpse Yeah These cleats right here Yeah Walking all over you Those are so narrow Yeah my feet would never Be able to find these
Starting point is 03:31:36 I mean those would be The most uncomfortable Things of all time What's that What cowboy boot size You wear you know I'm a 12 double E I'm a 13 double E
Starting point is 03:31:43 Okay yeah So these These ain't any E here. E's wide. This thing can get blisters on either side, but if you are built for speed, you see these things move, lean with it, rock with it
Starting point is 03:31:55 with you, you know, so they give a little bit so you don't get caught up in the shit. That's why Joe Flacco's moving faster than me. Nike overthought that for sure. There's no way that works. It does. No chance. Joe Flacco ran 19 miles than me. Nike overthought that for sure. There's no way that works. It does. No chance. Joe Flacco ran 19 miles an hour. I bet it was because of the spinning middle cleat. Those aren't Nike.
Starting point is 03:32:12 Flacco's never been hurt. Those aren't Nike? No, it's a whole company of mechanics. Those are the Flacos. Oh, wow. Smart studs. They're smart studs. The F1s.
Starting point is 03:32:20 They're called coconut husks. These could be soccer cleats, too, if you shave this one down. So you're telling me old rubber masturbating shoes sitting over there in the corners is They're called coconut husks. These could be soccer cleats, too, if you shave this one down. So you're telling me old rubber masturbating shoes sitting over there in the corners is talking about how these spikes aren't good? I'm not sure why. Is that about cane shoes? I'm not sure why. Just call it old rubber masturbating shoes. What's the masturbator part?
Starting point is 03:32:36 What's that about? Why did that come out? It's talking about him sitting in a corner beating his meat, I think is what he's saying. Wires him for speed. Yay. But anyways, yeah, these are going to lead to Colts. These are going to lead to Colts. That's right.
Starting point is 03:32:44 I also like the fact that company colors, it's almost like the universe. Yeah. But anyways, yeah, these are going to lead to Colts. These are going to lead to Colts. That's right. I also like the fact that company colors, it's almost like the universe. See? I know. Hey, Q, you want to do a giveaway for the people or what? Yeah, let's do it. 500 bottles of lotion. Okay. Boom. Baby oil? No. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He said lotion, not oil.
Starting point is 03:32:59 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Baby oil is a little slicker. Why, you need more? What was this on Reddit's tweet all about? At the end, what he said? No, did he? Yeah, I don't know what that means. What does that mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 03:33:12 Is he a stand-up comedian? No. Ask a young kid. Yeah, I guess it's a young kid. Mitt? No, Mitt knows, I bet. Let's go to the giveaway. Okay.
Starting point is 03:33:23 Tossing balls? What is it, Dan? No, no, no. We don't need to. Are you going to punt the ball? No, I'm just trying to get my form right. If you punt it, it's impressive. Just keep that elbow tight.
Starting point is 03:33:37 Thank you, Shipley, a member of the Penn State Nittany Lion alumni. Did you graduate? Yeah. Congratulations. What was your major? Labor-employment Relations. Okay. That sounds like a fake degree.
Starting point is 03:33:47 So he didn't graduate. All right. That's awesome. We are Penn State. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we are Penn State. What was it called? Labor Employment Relations?
Starting point is 03:34:00 So you're like, my guys, they work the yard from Maine to fucking Louisiana. That's you. HR. Fire and fire. Shake hands. Fire and fire. This is how you shake hands, right here. My guys are on the dock storing COVID.
Starting point is 03:34:15 We didn't ask for nothing. Okay? They're risking their lives. Guy's getting sick. They're dying out there. Okay? I'm asking for a little bit of payback. When we shut this down, the whole fucking world shuts down. Couple more shackles. About a week or two. I'm asking for a little bit of payback when we shut this down the whole fucking world shuts down
Starting point is 03:34:26 Couple more shackles about a week or two. I'm a bad guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he stopped talking about it Car dealers don't have cars to sell Construction people don't have wood to work with where you think these fucking Amazon packages come through my guys. Let's sit down at the table Let's get a deal done. Mm- deal done or I'll cripple you. You remember when that was happening? Oh, yeah. That was the actual. It almost just happened again very recently.
Starting point is 03:34:50 And then what? DeSantis was like, sweet. We'll just put our National Guard on all these dogs. We'll fucking do this. All right. You guys are National Guard money. We're going to do it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 03:34:59 Easy. Easy. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. New deal. New deal. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What a time. That was just a few weeks ago. Easy. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. New deal. New deal. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What a time. That was just a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 03:35:07 Yeah. That was going to end the whole United States of America. Yeah. That was wild to be a part of. There's a lot of shit happening just seemingly every day. It never stops. Nope. Yesterday, AQ got called garbage.
Starting point is 03:35:20 All right. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, 50 people will win $500 if this piece of garbage wearing a Penn State hoodie can put that football into that hoop right over there. A.Q. Shipley, for the good of the people! Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:35:42 What a piece of garbage. Or a piece of garbage. Or a piece of garbage. What a throw. We needed that. Needed that to go. Next one's got to go. Next one's going to hit you. That would have been the one.
Starting point is 03:35:54 What a throw. That would have been the one. As I was flying through there, I'm like, holy fuck. I can't believe it. Oh, yeah. It looks good. It looked good all the way. Fuck.
Starting point is 03:36:02 Glad you missed that. You tell me, Bob. My guys will cripple you. That sucks. All right, this one's for 30 people, $500. AQ, all you got to do is put that football in that hoop right over there. Ty Schmidt has a word of motivation for you. Just fucking put this thing in the bucket, you piece of garbage.
Starting point is 03:36:18 Let's go. All right. The Garbage Man. AQ Shipley. 30 people. Oh, it was terrible. Just a little less. All right.
Starting point is 03:36:29 D-Butch, obviously you're a man who has been successful at everything you've ever tried, including 33. Holy shit. Good run yesterday. We're no longer the champions of 33. Me and Foxy, we are no longer the champions. Nope. Who had a bad day?
Starting point is 03:36:45 We didn't even have an opportunity. We didn't even have a fucking opportunity. Just went right through? Just ran? Pretty much. 33. I only got to miss three shots, and it was over. They already had 34.
Starting point is 03:36:56 They made everything. 30 on round one. Yeah, it was a historic day. It was insane. Connor, fresh off the couch. No warm-up. In slides. Flip-flops. Walks in. Splash. D couch. No warm-up. In slides. Flip-flops. Walks in. Splash.
Starting point is 03:37:08 D-butt knocked down the first five, I think. Connor went four or five in the first group. It made us rethink the entire game. Yeah, we thought we had to back up the lunch. That's how easy it was. That's how easy it was for them yesterday. It was insane. I think we need to move it forward. We're playing
Starting point is 03:37:24 different games. Yeah, you need a new league it sounds like. Yeah, you're playing a different game it sounds like. But yeah. Toc and Mitt are in theā€¦ Bruce too. Bruce get involved. Obviously a little Easter egg for all of us. Easter egg.
Starting point is 03:37:34 But congrats to Connor and Darius. That's one of the best rounds of shooting I've ever seen. Earned it. Good shooting, Connor. Good game. It was fucking insane. It's been a good season, back and forth. It's like fun to watch.
Starting point is 03:37:44 It's like very fun to watch. All right. It's fun to watch. It's very fun to watch. All right, A. Cush. Here we go. Hold on. Darius Butler, who's the current 33 champion. Yeah, A. Cush, I don't think you're a piece of trash. I think you're a great man. But when you're thinking about this ball, when it goes in,
Starting point is 03:37:55 think about trade deadline. That trade you want to make, if you make it, it'll go through. If you don't, it will not. November 5th, NFL trade deadline day outcome. All relying upon this particular throw. Come on, man. Third AP. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 03:38:12 Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Drum major just missed the front flip. Oh, gee. Oh, my God. God damn it. Come on. I tried to guide that one.
Starting point is 03:38:24 Yeah, because you were nervous. There was a lot of pressure. Nick Moraldo is in the back He has something to say to you You know former You used to do a show with him Called That's Hockey Talk Yeah he quit Old friend
Starting point is 03:38:35 You retired It was a good show I watched every single week He did tap out of that show Because he had family And stuff like that Got me into hockey Bingo
Starting point is 03:38:42 That was literally The beginning of it all You were a Bolts fan For a little I was not Ever but Go Bol were a Bolts fan for a little while. I was not, ever, but... Go Bolts. Go Bolts. We were down there.
Starting point is 03:38:49 Go Cats. It's hard not to get caught up in the Bolts excitement whenever we were down there in Tampa. 150 degrees, D-Bucks wearing a hoodie and sweats. I had no idea how that even works. 30 people, $500. Nick has a sweet mustache right now and also some words of encouragement.
Starting point is 03:39:05 Alan, you changed my life when I first met you. You did something so transformative. I had believed up until that point in my entire life in a thing called karma, that if you were a good person and put good things out, that they would come back to you. And then I met you and I realized that's not necessarily true. That doesn't always apply to everybody. And it changed everything for me. So go ahead and change everyone else's life and put one of these balls in this damn bucket. Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shipley.
Starting point is 03:39:36 Well said. 30 people. $500! Damn. He might be destined to never make it. Yeah, it's just not meant to be, unfortunately. Holy shit. I mean, that's two right on. Yeah, it's just not meant to be, unfortunately. Holy shit. I mean, that's too right on.
Starting point is 03:39:47 I made a lefty yesterday after the show ended. What's that? Lefty? I did, yeah. I didn't make a single basketball shot after that, though. It might have been the death of my game. Oh, it's not? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:39:57 Also, upper body workouts get a little bit more strenuous. Sure. You've got to wake them up. You've got to wake them up a little bit. White, white. A.J. Hawk, who's in Ohio, obviously Ohio State, Penn State this weekend, has words of encouragement for his Nittany Lion brethren here. For 30 people to win $500.
Starting point is 03:40:12 A.J. A.Q., first off, I don't think you're a piece of garbage at all. I think you're a great human. But I did get visions of your one-on-one matchups with that big old dude in high school. Think of that guy. Nate Hart. Yeah, when you used to dunk over that giant human being to help get this ball right in the hoop.
Starting point is 03:40:30 The clash of the colossals, Hartung and Shipley. 30 people, $500, Western Pennsylvania, great net! Hartung would have made it. I mean, this is unbelievable. Yeah, you suck, brother. Hartung would have made it. Jesus Christ. That's a real picture. I think I saw him this is unbelievable. Yeah, you suck, brother. Hartung would have made it. Jesus Christ. That's a real picture.
Starting point is 03:40:48 I think I saw him on the internet. There is Nate Hartung right there. Hartung had, he'd be quadruple team, and guess what he's doing? Putting the fucking ball in the hole. That's a real picture? Yeah. Yes. Look at those angels.
Starting point is 03:40:59 With those guys on the ground and everything, like all four of them. Yeah, they're trying to get a rebound against Hartung. That ain't going to happen. Get the fuck out of here. This is like Chicago Bears. You got one guy that needs to box out. The other needs to just watch the show. Instead, all four of them tried to get involved, and Hartung said,
Starting point is 03:41:12 I don't think so. This ball's going in the bucket. Old buddy with the headband and the long hair jumping up over top. What do you think happened to him? IR immediately after this play. He broke his sternum and his spine on this play off of Hartung's shoulder. And for the good of Hartung, AQ, why don't you put that ball in that hoop right over there? 30 people, $500 for basketball greatness.
Starting point is 03:41:33 For legendary tails. You hate Hartung. You think he's got too much credit. Wow. That's what that sounded like to me. One big fat white in Pennsylvania. He wasn't fat. He was strong.
Starting point is 03:41:45 What a pitcher. That's how I met him. He was an ox. Yeah, he went to Edinburgh. One big fat white in Pennsylvania. He wasn't fat. He was strong. What a pitcher. That's how I meant it. Didn't he go to... He was an ox. Yeah, he went to Edinburgh. He dunked. He ripped the rim off the backboard on this one. I thought he went to BYU. Didn't he go to BYU?
Starting point is 03:41:53 Oh, maybe. I think he did for a little bit. He went to BYU, then he was coaching at Edinburgh. Oh, you went on ball. I don't know if he was smacking cheeks at BYU, but I do know he's handling business. He's only got one code. Hey, tomorrow's Halloween. This one's going in.
Starting point is 03:42:10 Tomorrow's Halloween. Call on it. It's going in. Call on a shot. Okay. How many people should win, then? Stick with one of us. What was it? 25? 25, yes.
Starting point is 03:42:22 25 people. $500. Penn State, great. A.Q. Shipley. Not only will... A bank shot. Okay. For 25 people to be $500 richer heading into the holiday season,
Starting point is 03:42:35 but also for Penn State to beat Ohio State this weekend. Yeah, why not? A.Q. Shipley, do it for the people. Do it for your alma mater. Do it for glory! Nowhere near it. Nowhere near it. Nowhere near it. Wow.
Starting point is 03:42:46 That was the worst shot yet. Too strong. All right. This guy sucks. Yes, he does. Tough day. Tough day. It was good in the trenches.
Starting point is 03:42:55 It was good. Yeah, it was. It was really good in the trenches. What happened? I used to be an athlete. Well, you're a dad now. And Ohio State gets the big dub this weekend we're just counting on that drum major oh no what if the first video we see from saturday is right on the butt two knees
Starting point is 03:43:15 oh my god oh yeah but like jake yeah we'll be chatting with jake here in a matter of moments actually it's a good memory blown out jeez can't wait to chat with him here in a matter of moments, actually. It's a good memory. Blown out. Jeez. Can't wait to chat with him. Tough video to watch. He stayed for the rest of the show. He'll have you know. Yeah. He didn't tap out? No.
Starting point is 03:43:32 Dedication didn't. Never does. Tore his entire knee up. Didn't tap out. We like Jake. All right, let's get out of here. Town! Town!
Starting point is 03:43:41 All right, let's get out of here. Tone. Good accent, Tone. Good accent. You really did it well. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
Starting point is 03:43:57 We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Good night.

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