The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1241 - College Football Playoff Rankings Recap With Rece Davis, JJ Watt, Liv Morgan, Tyrese Haliburton, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys react to the College Football Playoff’s new batch of rankings and matchups that came out last night, the news that Anthony Ri...chardson once again will be the starter for the Colts, and AQ Shipley does his three biggest takeaway’s from week 10 before going In the Trenches, and Darius Butler breaks down the best DB play of the week in Everything DB. Joining the progrum to break down the College Football Playoff rankings and what they mean moving forward as well as the marquee college basketball games of last night is the host of College GameDay for both football and basketball, Rece Davis. Later, future Hall of Famer, member of the Texans Ring of Honor, 3x NFL DPOY, and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaways from week 10 of the NFL season and look ahead to week 11. Lastly, WWE Women’s World Champion, Liv Morgan joins the progrum to chat about the Royal Rumble coming to Indianapolis, her experience in Saudi Arabia, her beef with Rhea Ripley and relationship with Dom Mysterio, and when she gained the confidence she currently has in the ring. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this wide Wednesday, November 13th, 2024. This program starts now. Football! It's amazing, isn't it? There's obviously breaking news seemingly every single day out of the football world that we get a chance to cover. Obviously the new college football playoff rankings in bracket was released last night. We'll talk to Reese Davis in about 20 minutes or so to get his feel on how things are shaping up, especially after his conversation with Ward Manuel, the chairman of the college football playoff committee. Around the NFL, there's shit happening. There's teams that are trying to make plays to still win a Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:00:38 and there's teams that are seemingly destined for a top-five pick. We'll get a chance to chit-chat with, with obviously J.J. Watt in the second hour. And then also, big media push here in Indianapolis this morning. The WWE is hosting its Royal Rumble event at Lucas Oil Stadium. Right here in the great city of Indianapolis, Indiana. And the pre-sale tickets are now live. Let's go. Tickets actually go on sale Friday.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Pre-sale starts today. Get in there. Get early. Get great seats because Royal Rumble is not only a celebration of the now, which is obviously loaded with superstars from all over the place, global sensations coming to Royal Rumble, but also stars of yesterday popping in and maybe earning their way to another main event at WrestleMania.
Starting point is 00:01:25 The Royal Rumble is the most exciting, the most unpredictable, the most electrifying event of the year, and it all happens Saturday, February 1st, right here in Indianapolis, Indiana, with presale starting today. Liv Morgan has been on the local news, pushing it old school on radio.
Starting point is 00:01:41 She'll be joining us at 205 Eastern to chit-chat about this. Cannot wait for all the convo and can't wait to dive back into that WWE world. I miss you guys. I miss WWE so much. I'll be back.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'll be back soon. I miss you guys over there. I miss people that work there. I miss behind the scenes people that work there. I miss the operation. I miss the entertainment. I miss people that work there. I miss behind-the-scenes people that work there. I miss the operation. I miss the entertainment. I miss the crowd. I miss the acknowledgement of the OTC.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I miss the eating. I miss the action. I miss the energy in the crowd. Speed championship. Is that still happening? I hope so. I don't think so. Oh, man. We might have been the only ones that talked about it, which is part in the crowd. And Speed Championship. Is that still happening? I hope so. I don't think so. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:02:27 We might have been the only ones to talk about it, which is part of the problem. I miss it even more now. No, no, yep. Boom. Rest in peace, potentially, to the Speed Championship. I miss the WWE so much. So the fact that we're chit-chatting about the Royal Rumble,
Starting point is 00:02:38 which is in Indianapolis, which is right around the corner, I can't wait to dive in. Anyways, the Talks at Table is here. At Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet, host of everything DB. Good D, bad D. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler is here. Look good. Feel good. Feel good.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Play good. Great hat right there. Play good. Yeah, Kyle Van Nooy's brother. His line. Remember he had it on? Oh, yeah. Carl Van Nooy. Sent me a couple, so yeah. And I'm assuming Coach Prime is like, oh, interesting. Everybody has their own adage on this thing. But nonetheless, shout out to Van Noy.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Shout out to Coach Prime for the bars in the lines. And Colorado is a part of this conversation in the college football playoff right now, which we could have never expected two years ago or even after they lose to Nebraska earlier in the year. Everybody thought they were going to fall off. Uh-uh. They're going this way. Another team that is still going this way, even though they seemingly just can't win. Can't beat any of the good teams.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Not ever. Ladies and gentlemen, 12-year NFL vet, Jackie Moon of the NFL, Super Bowl champion with the Buccaneers, but also played for the Cardinals, the Colts, the Ravens, the Steelers, and the Eagles. Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley. A.Q.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Penn State getting a home game right now in the college football playoff. If it was to shake out how it is, that'd be a great time. Wouldn't be at noon because it would be an ESPN game so it would be at night. Maybe you guys would be able to win that one. We got a chance. That's the best case scenario is the fact that they probably avoid the Big Ten championship and then
Starting point is 00:03:59 get a home playoff game. Might have an easy ride. Let's go. Easy ride? It's not easy. Nothing's easy in college ball because you don't know what team's going to show up week to week. Legitimately, for all these teams. Georgia this weekend has a massive one with Tennessee. Tennessee's in. Georgia's the first team out right now. They have the
Starting point is 00:04:15 seventh hardest schedule in the entire college ball. They've had top five matchups seemingly every single weekend. This weekend is another big one for them. If they lose, I think they're going to be out. I think Georgia people would say, we had to play everybody. Every good team in football we had to play this year. And they're like, well, you need to win more of them. And then people are obviously upset in the South about what's going on with the Big Ten because Indiana has like the 73rd ranked strength. They're undefeated. Okay. Sorry. They can only play
Starting point is 00:04:40 with whoever scheduled them. And remember, Indiana football wasn't necessarily an easy, schedulable team because of how cropped they were for a long time. Now it feels like they're on their way. Not Cignetti's fault. Not the Hoosiers' fault. They're sitting in prime position. Home playoff game right now. Come on.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Home playoff game right now. If it was to work out at the end of the season how it is right now, hosting Alabama. Jalen Milrow, okay, you can go down to Death Valley with a live tiger on the sideline. And Governor Jeff Landry has said numerous times that live tiger's the only tiger that actually showed up in that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And you can go bananas and berserk. But how are you going to handle Bloomington in the cold? 55,000 people. Speakers rocking, rattling. Entire town shut down. That is what's possible with this 12-team playoff. I cannot wait for all of it. Ole Miss, Penn State potentially up there in Happy Valley.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Notre Dame, Tennessee right now, that'd be a fun one down in Knox, Vegas. And then obviously Boise State would be the highest-ranked Power 5 champion, so they would get the 12 spot to go into the horseshoe and take on the Ohio State Buckeyes, watching Jenty do his thing. It's setting up to be beautiful. Now, it is a bit confusing to a lot of people because BYU is not the third ranked team. BYU is like in the teens, but BYU currently sitting at top of the Big 12. So if they're a Big 12 champion with where they're ranked, they would have a first round bye and a home game or represent in the second round as a champion.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So there's a lot to go over, a lot for people to learn about. All you need to know is 12 teams, electricity, Reese Davis will be joining us in about 14 minutes to break it all down. Let's go. He also knows college ball. Oh, yeah. Basketball, which is happening right now. Two great college basketball games last night.
Starting point is 00:06:19 What happened? Did a McWhite kid play good? What happened last night? No, McWhite guy did not play. UConn wasn't there, but Cooper Flagg did, unfortunately. What happened? What did he do? Unfortunately, Duke lost to Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:06:30 The Wildcats came to play, and Cooper Flagg did not get the job done against Kentucky, and then also Michigan State. Michigan State lost to Kansas, I believe. Kansas has that guy, Hunter Dickinson, who's about 80 years old, still playing. Kansas has that guy, Hunter Dickinson, who's about 80 years old, still playing. But, yeah, last night was the tip-off, if you will, kind of, for the entire big game. This is a State Farm Champions Classic, number one up top of the key there. He's the guy that's been there for about 15 years now. That seems to be a thing in college basketball.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It's either 17-year-old Cooper Flags flying around the court or guys who've been there forever. Well, the COVID years and everything that kind of took place have kind of extended some people. It's not just college basketball experiences. It's obviously college football experiences as well. College basketball is going to be great, I think, this year, though. Definitely. I think it's going to be very, very good.
Starting point is 00:07:16 A lot of storylines, obviously. In the main event, Cooper Flag, obviously he is going to be up for rookie of the year, freshman of the year, or best player in basketball. 26-12 last night and losing half are still pretty good. He's still a doubt. Some turnovers late. he is going to be up for rookie of the year, freshman of the year, or best player in basketball. Yeah. 26-12 last night. The losing half is still pretty good. He's still a doubt. Some turnovers late. I mean, young kids can happen.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That's a Yukon Husky right there. You got to box out. You got to box out on free throws, too. That's huge. Okay, that's one half of the hammer. Cowboys, Gumpy back there. Gumps, you love college ball. This season set up to be a good one, college basketball?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, both games last night were really good. Michigan State forgot how to shoot at the end of that game, or they probably would have been a little bit closer. So it's like it was March again. Yeah, it literally was. Every year Michigan State struggles to shoot the three. I don't know why, but Duke and Kentucky was an absolute banger from start to finish. So March came
Starting point is 00:08:02 early for Michigan State last night. Is that good news or bad news for you, Foxy? No, I mean, they were three for 24 from the three point line. That's actually hard to do. I don't know what happened, but we need some shooters in that building. I did it last week. I'll tell you what, it is not a fun time. Came back this week a little bit different. I think that is what will
Starting point is 00:08:18 happen up there at Michigan State. Let's go to Hammer. Don. Don. The other half of the Hammer. Don. Cowboys. A.P.. Don! Cowboys, AP Tone. AP Tone, college football playoff rankings in bracket come out last night. Seemingly, there's going to be people upset about everything. How'd you feel about how it all turned out? I felt fine.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I thought the Big Ten had a big night, obviously, having four teams in the top five. And it's kind of disappointing to IU fans last night. There was a lot of bitching coming from them, even though they were the fifth-ranked team in the country, talking about how ESPN's already setting it up for an SEC team to kick them out. I don't think so. As long as they don't lose by, I don't know, 14-plus next week against Ohio State, I think the Big Ten is pretty secure with four teams in there,
Starting point is 00:09:01 and I think IU is pretty safe in that situation. I think the committee kind safe in that situation. I think the committee kind of set up a situation where Alabama, Ole Miss, Georgia, and then a fourth SEC team. I mean, A&M got Texas last week, too. They beat Texas, obviously. They control their destiny. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I think they're setting up for, there's those teams, those SEC teams lurking there in the 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 situation where if a Notre Dame slips up, that's who's going to follow up. That's who an SEC team will take the place of. Or if BYU somehow slips up, can Boise then jump up into the four seed as far as the playoff bracket goes? Can they get the bye in that situation?
Starting point is 00:09:42 So I don't think the Big Ten has anything to worry about. I think it was a good night for the Big Ten 10 i think they're going to get four teams in um and then they're setting it up kind of like put an smu at 14 there like in case miami doesn't win i think there's a situation where that's where an scc team could could uh find their way in there like a fifth scc team and we'll ask reese about this because the ap does their ranking right the ap does their top 25 the cfp does their top 25 i I feel like the CFPB, and it's the first year of the 12-team bracket, they should just put out the bracket and have them ranked that way as opposed to it being, this is 12 seed, but it's actually three seed, six seed, but actually three seed. College Football Playoff Committee should be only thinking about the college football
Starting point is 00:10:23 bracket, I think personally, because there's so many different confusions that could happen with numbers and we're ranked this but we're actually this and this it's like i feel like as we kind of go through this entire thing it'll get easier to understand for everybody because right now the story is just like 12 teams are going to be in there 12 teams are going to be in there but when you start getting in the weeds it's like well why is this team this and then they're actually this it's like well the championship advantage but p4 champion power five champion then who's the high it's like i think they should just put out the bracket and then say here's the teams that are out and how they look going forward as opposed to trying to do the whole song and dance it's almost like they're trying to
Starting point is 00:10:57 do the ap vote while then also filling in their own college football playoff bracket and it's like a do we need that every single week because it doesn't matter until the last one? And B, do you need to do that? Just give us what the bracket would look like right now if you guys were to put it out as opposed to the number of confusion. Personally, that's what I think should happen. No, I think that's the right way because all of us, we're watching college football every single week.
Starting point is 00:11:18 In the week. Yeah, exactly, following it big time. There are plenty of people who are casual fans who are checking in, and it was kind of confusing. They pop up the the top 13 or whatever the first team out and all that kind of stuff on the side and then they're just bouncing around to where the different slots are like do it exactly like the ncaa tournament for basketball does the selection show boom 12 seed five seed well so georgia's the 12 seed 12 12-team playoff. They're good. Nope. Actually, they're the first one out because Power 5, 13, they're actually in. It's just like there's a lot for people to take in.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It's the first year. But I think college football playoff committee doesn't have an easy job. We're not saying you have an easy job at all. But I think you shouldn't be worried about doing the whole ranking top 25. You guys should just put the bracket out and then say here's the first teams out and here's the reason why. I think that would make it easier, but also we could all probably learn as we go forward. Well, and I get having respect for the AP, but at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:12:10 what the AP says doesn't really matter anymore because it ends up being just a – Yeah, let them do their own thing. Exactly, and they can, and it's sweet. In Georgia, they can be pumped that they're in the AP's top 12, but at the end of the day, the AP's top 12 doesn't mean shit. And that's why when they are doing the entire college football playoff reveal, it did get confusing because there's one number next to the team and then there's the other number next to the team.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Like you mentioned BYU. BYU got three, but then next to BYU's three is like nine or whatever the hell. Six. Yeah, it's like, well, that number doesn't mean shit anymore, so there's no point to put it there. So it doesn't make sense, but this is awesome. That's why every week ends up being a playoff game because Tennessee-Georgia this weekend is a playoff game
Starting point is 00:12:49 because if Georgia loses, they're done. They're definitely not getting in. Whereas if Tennessee loses, then Georgia and Tennessee almost flip where it's like, okay, it's Tennessee now. One of those first teams out in Georgia all of a sudden becomes one of those teams that's automatically. Reese will talk to us more about that in seven minutes. Cannot wait to hear his thoughts on it all
Starting point is 00:13:07 and his take on what should this look like going forward next year. And then I think the year after that, we've got a 14 team coming. So then it's going to get even more... All we know is college football playoffs are going to be awesome. Everybody kind of understands what the hell is going to go on. It's going to be a little tough until we get there. But then once we get
Starting point is 00:13:23 there, there's going to be people that are going to be pissed, there's going to be people that are going to be pissed. I mean, there's going to be people that are going to be pissed. No doubt. Still going to be people pissed when they add teams because they're just going to add another Big Ten team and they're going to add another SEC team. That's probably how it's going to go. Yep. And I appreciate that
Starting point is 00:13:38 the ESPN College Football X account is helping out everything. On the pulse. Always. Is that the worst account on X? Like last night, you know, I'm doing this dentist thing. Okay. Wild.
Starting point is 00:13:53 First time in like 15 years as a dentist. Great experience. Shout out to Dr. Brady. Shout out to Hannah, Lynn, Adam. All the incredible hospitality and work. I mean, they're a finger in my mouth, but they were doing it in a kind way yeah meaningful two and a half nitrous tanks I believe I went through last night through this nose right here was pretty good I think that's pretty good amount had about 10 novocaine shots around the
Starting point is 00:14:14 mouth obviously pulled out wisdom tooth in the back left side didn't crack it either so just pulled that thing straight out there you go it's a big son of a bitch. And that thing was pretty wide open. And he told me like, yeah, everybody says it's a nerve. It's actually like blood vessels that are in there. So, cause I said, this nerve is going to die off. That's why I've been just living with it for the last six weeks. Incredibly painful.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Haven't been able to drink cold water or hot things. Haven't been able to have ice cream. That's a nightmare. Which is not good. And then inevitably this weekend, I couldn't sleep because the amount of pain that it was going through. So I'm like, all right, I guess I've got to be an adult and get this thing fixed, even though I thought it was going to fix itself. Like, hey, body, we've got a problem.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Heal. Get it done. Figure it out. That nerve is continuing to hurt. Tell it to stop. Okay, that's what the body is supposed to do. So I go in there. I get that thing removed.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I'm all on the gas. You know, can't really see it. This is why the basketball games are happening. So I go to X. I'm like, what's going on? Well, let me go to the college football account. This should have me. Nothing. Not a single activity. So then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:13 why would that be the case? So then ESPN's actual account puts out the list, puts out the whole thing. I'm like, thank you, ESPN account. But shouldn't the college football account be doing that? You would think. Shouldn't that be just like a one-stop shop for everything that's going on, especially in this brand new time? You would think it would be the account. But shouldn't the college football account be doing that? You would think. Yeah, definitely. Shouldn't that be just like a one-stop shop for everything that's going on, especially in this brand new time? You would think it would be the case.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So hopefully that takes place. I think the people running that have no idea what they're doing, but hopefully inevitably that'll change. Or even like highlights. You know, I'm watching a big college game with ESPN. You know, you're watching NFL games, you're watching NBA, you're watching, hey, as soon as something happens, touchdown happens, sack, interception, I can go right to the account, see it, maybe post to myself. None of it. What about storylines, too? Like, hey, as soon as something happens, touchdown happens, sack, interception, I can go right to the account, see it, maybe post it
Starting point is 00:15:45 myself. None of it. What about storylines, too? Like, hey, Georgia, this is a must-win game. You know, you would think maybe, no, nothing. How long are they doing? I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. It's 3 million followers, too. That's a pretty big account. It's pretty big. At some point, it had to have something, right?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Because people don't just follow that for no reason. Nobody's probably on X. Who's using X these days? Yeah, I guess that's probably not it. Dying platform. Oh, yeah. I remember that a couple years ago I was given a full speech by somebody at ESPN about how we're not using Twitter anymore. Okay? Nobody's on it.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And they started putting these numbers up. Look how many people are on YouTube. I'm like, well, you can't just take every fucking Google search number and put that in there. Yep, that's who's on it. Yes, you can. Look how many people are on Facebook and Instagram and instagram okay so every human that has an account okay you're going to compete that against twitter of course and look at tiktok's rise and look at what look how many little and elon bought it this thing ain't even gonna exist on monday so don't
Starting point is 00:16:36 even do it it's like did that one win the presidency did this one over here did this one does this one kind of have a little bit of say maybe and do people get all their news from this particular i think so so maybe a little bit more of uh activity there from espn especially if you're going to own all the rights yeah yeah to the playoffs all the biggest games if you're going to spend billions of dollars on this brand new playoff maybe there should be a vehicle of information on your phone that people can just go to very easily and see it all. But what will we know? More than those motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Well, we don't have social media degrees, so actually I don't know how much we do know. Good point. Never graduated. I didn't even think about that. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. Maybe we... I wonder if we could just take over that account.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Probably. Do it free of charge. We'd be honored. It'd be fun. Gumpy, wouldn't we love to add that to our repertoire of accounts? Love to. Couldn't wait to do it. That would be an honor. Absolutely. Oh my god, the amount of things in this college football
Starting point is 00:17:32 world. Best college football season of all time. All time. All time. It wouldn't know obviously on a 3 million follower account. That's a ton of people. ESPN College Football. Okay? We own all the rights for all the important games. The noon games, I guess. Yeah, not great.
Starting point is 00:17:47 People are pissed off at that. Ohio State's had, what, six straight noon games or whatever? Ohio State's like, great, so we're good. We now have to play every single game at noon because of this entire thing. There's no way the players like it either. No way. So AJ's like the
Starting point is 00:18:02 classic, I'll play on the parking lot if I have to. He's always giving that like the classic, like, I'll play on the parking lot if I have to. You know, he's always giving that answer where he's like, you know, I like playing early because then I get to go home and just watch the game, enjoy the night. And it's like, I concur. But it's like the lights, bro. Like, that's what we're here for, the lights. That's the heightened environment.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You know, they don't have national championships in the middle of the day. Okay. Friday night lights happen. If you're playing on Saturday morning, people aren't holding it in high regard. And let alone the players and the coaches. Coaches probably want to get the game out of the way too and move on. The fans are like, we would like to be able
Starting point is 00:18:34 to have a day. We got a day here leading into it. It's like a festival when these games are happening. And because of the big noon slot and Joel Klatt who we love. I love Joel Klatt. I i love i think he's phenomenal him and gus i think are fantastic gus even mailed it in a little bit yeah he's sick of it as well ohio state uh purdue i think last week and they got another touchdown yeah he's not happy
Starting point is 00:18:59 i loved it i absolutely i love them i enjoy that joel put out a thread about the numbers on that noon slot it's huge it's like yeah i mean oh out a thread about the numbers on that noon slot. It's huge. It's like, yeah, I mean, Ohio State's playing. The numbers are going to be big, especially if it's on a national thing. But I think a lot of people in the Big Ten are not thrilled that their team can't be showcased at night because the whole light show and shit, that's like a massive piece of college ball now. I know the Penn State people when I was up there,
Starting point is 00:19:20 I did not expect the amount of vitriol I'll say about it, but they were selling shirts. There was an entire movement. It's not just the students either. It's alumni. I think even the athletic department. Everybody is like, what are we doing here? And then the next week, they do
Starting point is 00:19:38 a whiteout and they put it on Peacock. It's like, what are we doing? Let's showcase this thing. Come on. And you guys won, right? Yeah, won big. Wow, you guys went on Pe, huh? Yeah, people cared. People saw it. People definitely saw and cared about that game. We actually scored inside the five. Really? Three times. Red zone. Red zone
Starting point is 00:19:54 touchdown. Wow. Whoa. You ever talk to James Franklin? Because I brought up your name, James Franklin, and he goes, I know AQ wasn't happy. So do you and Coach Franklin have any? He actually texted me. He wants me to send something to the boys this week, a little motivation. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I'm going to send a little video. I might do it today. What's it going to sound like? What's it going to sound like? I don't know, but I'm going to tell them, hey, listen, we got one opportunity, boys. There it is. You only get one opportunity.
Starting point is 00:20:17 One shot. Don't miss your chance to blow. That's right. Here we go. Opportunity comes once in a lifetime. You got everything staring you in the face moving forward. Why blow it? You had one loss. It's okay. We're back in the top four. Let's go. You've got everything staring you in the face moving forward. Why blow it? You had one loss.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It's okay. We're back in the top four. Let's go. You're allowed to lose. It's okay. Just get in the dance. That's all we need. And then once you're in the dance.
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Starting point is 00:20:42 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh is undefeated. Come on. They've had to lose. I mean, nobody did. They kind of stole it. Breaking news out of the NFL before we get back into college ball with Reese Davis. Anthony Richardson starting for the Colts again.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Hey, now. Free AR5. Free AR5. He's back on the field. He learned his lesson. Okay, he learned his lesson now. The culture in that Colts facility has certainly been called into question. Big time.
Starting point is 00:21:02 By the own players, fans, alumni, obviously, which I'm going to consider myself, and people around the city. You know, when some of your best players are coming out saying, like, yeah, like, I don't know what the hell's going on in here. Kenny Moore, like, we don't work hard. Quentin Nelson comes. Team preparation, good. Individual preparation, not great. It's like,
Starting point is 00:21:19 are you guys professionals or not? And how long has this been happening? And, you know, Jeff Saturday was kind of brought in to be the new head coach, interim head coach after Frank Reich was fired. And the word was kind of like, Jeff Saturday's coming in there and he's basically telling them like, hey, this ain't how professional football goes. And he was taking it on the shins by everybody. Obviously, fans are like, this guy sucks as a coach.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And then players are like, this isn't fun. We're not allowed to just be late to meetings and like skip training and do everything like that. What is this all about? A little accountability? So then Shane gets in here and he's a guy of accountability we assume coming from Sirianni and then one thing leads to another. We got another quarterback in here. We got another quarterback
Starting point is 00:21:53 in here. The players I think are kind of fed up with the entire rotation of how it goes. But I think a lot of people in that building don't know that your ass will be replaced very quickly. And I think they almost got too comfortable ar got an opportunity to sit back watch hopefully learn from a lot of people talking like hey quarterbacks operate differently have to operate differently and when he's in there he's electrifying he can
Starting point is 00:22:15 run for a hundo he can throw for five hundo he might miss a few because he's still a rookie quarterback even though he's in his second year. He wasn't in the building much last year, which, once again, don't love. I don't think that would have happened in any building that's worth a shit if your rookie quarterback had surgery. I think they're still going to be back in there learning stuff. So, once again, not AR's fault that he seemingly doesn't have anybody to kind of teach him the ways, but hopefully Joe Flacco has done that, and the team still in it.
Starting point is 00:22:44 We watched the Dolphins win on Monday night. They're 3-6. Their team's like, yeah, we can go on the run. We can get in there for that seventh seed. We can do that. We have more wins than they do. We have a schedule. Now you got the Jets, then you got the Lions, then you have a bye, or Patriots, then you got a bye.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Then you got some winnable games. It's like, we are still in playoff hunt, which is why I feel like I was kind of bamboozled a little bit. So when I came out and was like, put Joe Flacco in the damn game, we can win these games. We can still make the playoff. We can have a home playoff game,
Starting point is 00:23:15 which we haven't, we can still win the AFC South. We haven't done that in 10. We haven't done that since Chris Ballard has got here. We have not won in a long time, but I feel like we have the team to do it. We've invested a lot of money. Then you start hearing the stories coming out of it's like maybe we don't maybe we don't
Starting point is 00:23:27 have a single chance of doing anything but with everything in front of us anthony richardson going back in there hopefully there's a little bit of a learning curve over the last couple weeks on how you're going to operate as a quarterback and we don't expect him to be perfect but man he should be electrifying i hope yeah we know he's going to be electrified we know he has the talent just like we had the conversation about Caleb Williams yesterday with him losing his OC. As a player, as an organization, I'm sure you never want to be back and forth, back and forth with your young quarterback, old quarterback coming in.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Obviously, Joe Flacco did not light it up once he got in there. I was right there with you. Hey, he's going to give us the best chance to win right now with how the team is constructed. So hopefully this is a great learning experience for Anthony Richardson. He setbacks off from a different perspective, maybe learned something different, gets another opportunity. Maybe he values this one a little bit more. And, shit, we all been there.
Starting point is 00:24:12 As a young player, you got to learn. Sometimes it's the hard way, sometimes it's different ways. I got arrested. Yeah. I mean, there is a learning possibility for everybody. It's big. It's a lot on your plate, especially as that CEO of the team when you are their quarterback. So obviously from the beginning, I've been hopeful and optimistic for Anthony Richardson. And now we got a chance. The Jets defense
Starting point is 00:24:32 aren't world beaters by any stretch of the imagination right now. So he can go out there and have a big game, get us to our fifth win. And like you said, everything's still out there for us. Good luck, AR. Go get them, AR. You got this. 2.0. And AR, I would like to apologize for the fact that I didn't know that the building was just not a professional one. You know? What? When?
Starting point is 00:24:53 If you look at the Ring of Honor up there, the Colts. Mm-hmm. Hard not to. Got Hall of Famers all over the place. Mm-hmm. That building they're in right now, much nicer than the shitty-ass building
Starting point is 00:25:04 that we were in. Okay? You got better facilities. You got better opportunities. You got better everything in that building. And somehow it's just regressed to getting much worse. And these guys, and there's a lot of vets in there that have been around a long time. Like have a little pride, you know, I know it's hard to do sometimes whenever you lose and lose and lose. And these guys have never won. Okay. These guys have never won. They haven have never won they even want a fucking thing this group at all still wearing the jersey still getting paid let's go do it now why not flip the switch you're getting mocked and ridiculed by everybody not just me obviously i although i am in the city but whenever i hear you're lazy and you're not taking care of things it's like you're blowing an opportunity to what make a point way to go way to go 20 years
Starting point is 00:25:42 from now you're gonna be able to say yeah we wanted to play like shit a point? Way to go. Way to go. 20 years from now, you're going to be able to say, yeah, we wanted to play like shit because we wanted – way to go. I hope it works out. But now is the time. Hopefully they rally and they move on. Yeah. Enough talent in there. Definitely. You got the talent, but we talked about it.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's the little things. Day-to-day meetings, practice, walkthroughs, from the vets, from the coaches, from the front office, from ownership, on every level. Everybody's got to be tied in on the same page to win on this level. We know how fine that line is between winning and losing with organizations. So it's still out there. We're not, you know, two and eight. It's not like the season's done.
Starting point is 00:26:14 We still got opportunities. Yeah, it kind of sucks because we got no chance of the top five pick again. That's the worst case. No, we got to play a home playoff game still. We got a top five pick at quarterback right now. So obviously he has the talent. Agreed. Let's just hope all the other shit comes together.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I'm still hopeful. I'm still optimistic what's going on. It's rookie year. There's three words that are kind of pieced together that are just like a great explanation of what you have to do to be good. Be a pro. That is literally all of this just be a pro and it feels like in that building there hasn't been a lot of that you go back a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:26:50 i'm not getting into it what's that what happened a couple years ago well obviously the guy that was part of it he's going on to have great success but there's gambling in the building at a rap we're one of the teams that are gambling but then reports coming out like skipping training sessions like for rehab it's like nobody getting fined for doing any of that late to team meetings it's like what is this a fucking high school what are not even not a good high school no like not that's not like a good high school football team it's like what the hell is going on behind the scenes i've never the things that like kind of get leaked out i'm like how did this building become this legitimately how is this what this building became and i think a lot of fans are feeling the same way but once again still got everything in front of it and could tighten
Starting point is 00:27:32 everything up the first thing that i heard yesterday was those two guys that's the first part of this thing moving forward right when you have your leaders policing the group and calling people out then hopefully the other guys start to follow. Kenny and Quentin? Yes. Yes, I agree. Because those are two guys that I have respect for and appreciate. Now, granted, it's their locker room too that this has been happening. Corner, guard, not normally like the ones who are expected to set the tone for everything,
Starting point is 00:27:58 but I appreciate that they are. Yeah, absolutely. Come on, boys. Everything's still in front of you. You got this, Colts. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who hosts every college game day there is. Yep. Podcasts, absolutely. Come on, boys. Everything's still in front of you. You got this, Colts. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who hosts every college game day there is. Yep. Podcasts, basketball, football.
Starting point is 00:28:11 He's obviously wildly handsome, phenomenally intelligent. Ladies and gentlemen, the incomparable Reese Davis. Yeah, Reese! Reese, we got some issues in the Indianapolis Colts building. I don't love any of it. You know what I'm a Jaguars fan so it could be worse It could be worse
Starting point is 00:28:30 We're starting to become That's what I'm saying We cannot become that No offense We cannot We cannot Anything thrown Their way has been well earned
Starting point is 00:28:44 It seems like down there it doesn't matter, but down here it's starting to say it doesn't. At least the Jags have a playoff win in the last decade. They do. Four picks in the first quarter or two or whatever. And they still come back and win a little adversity. And they've got two pools in their stadium. And their jumbotron
Starting point is 00:29:00 is pretty big. And their Jackson DeVille. Jackson DeVille was in the middle of that whole I love him. Talking junk, yeah. Now, Blue actually won the Salute to Service Award for the Indianapolis Colts. How's that work? I thought players... So that is kind of the Colts picking the Colts
Starting point is 00:29:15 to win the Salute to Service Award because Blue is the Colts. So then you start to wonder to yourself, what is going on in this locker room? We don't even have anybody that can win the Salute to Service Award. You can't support the truth. I can't.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I don't even. I can't. I can't. I can't do it. You guys need to fucking figure it out. All right. AR's got to figure it out. AR's got to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Let's go to college ball. Speaking of figuring it out, last night, what did we figure out? Now, we didn't like the fact that you had to wait for these college basketball games to end. Now, they were great basketball games. We will certainly talk about that in a bit because you're one of the voices of college hoops as well. What did you learn last night for the college football playoff bracket being released, and what are your thoughts on it all, Reese?
Starting point is 00:29:54 I think the one thing that I learned, Pat, was that they are valuing the way the team looked as opposed to, say, strength of schedule. That benefits Indiana for sure because they have looked like a playoff team. The resume might not quite be there. And for Georgia, Georgia has the number one strength of schedule in the country, but they've had a couple of games where they didn't look the part, or at least the vast majority of the Alabama game and none of the Ole Miss game.
Starting point is 00:30:21 So, you know, they are now first team out, despite the fact that they're, you know, have the toughest path of anyone so far. So those were the two big takeaways and probably the fact that the ACC and the Big 12, more likely than not, are only going to get one team in the field. Which we kind of, you know, and by we, I mean this particular program as we were kind of looking at the 12-team playoff,
Starting point is 00:30:43 we knew it was going to be Big Ten SEC heavy. heavy we knew that which is why the championship of the other conferences was such a big deal because it's an automatic bid but the strength of schedule conversation is going to be one that's going to be massive obviously georgia has played in like four top five matchups add another one happening this weekend or you know big top 10 matchup against Tennessee it's like when push comes to shove that's the biggest deal in how did the Big 12 or ACC ever catch up you know for years going forward with the depth of the Big 10 and the SEC and them only seemingly getting better as we roll on I I wish I knew how to tell you that they could catch up. I think it will be probably the occasional year where they have multiple teams. And the ACC is close now.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I mean, SMU and Miami both are worthy playoff-type teams if they were to finish strong. So I don't think it's beyond the realm of comprehension that they could get a couple. It just seems a little less likely than the others. But I think it's going to be really hard to catch up, Pat, is a divide you see it every week when we're on game day it's just different in the SEC and the Big Ten from the others doesn't mean that there aren't teams in the other conferences who have done well against certain teams from the SEC or the Big Ten but just
Starting point is 00:32:00 taken from top to bottom there's there's difference there. And it's being reflected in the standings. And I think if you see teams from those two conferences start to lose bids, then it sort of highlights the merits of the argument, which I haven't been in favor of, but merits of the argument if they expand to 14 or 16, that those two conferences have a guaranteed number of bids. It would be more of an nfl style race to try to make sure that you get into the playoff like if you make it to the finals of your championship you're in like uh the two big 12 finalists would make it into the bed
Starting point is 00:32:35 two acc championship well big 12 what maybe not the two big 12 finalists but the right yeah it depends yeah how big he just said he was talking about when it goes to 14, those other conferences getting more automatic bids. Mountain West. But also the SEC and the Big 10. Over the Big 12? Connor's taking a dump on the Big 12.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. And then you do have to think, like, Colorado is still potentially very much in it. What's Colorado look like next year? What's the turnover of these teams look like going forward? Every year is going to have its own conversation and drama and blowback. But there's a big one happening around Indiana, more specifically, because of the strength of schedule happening everywhere.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, Reese, with Indiana's strength of schedule being such a big talking point, if they have a big loss to Ohio State, do you see them bouncing all the way out of the top 12 i think it's possible if it's a big loss um i was you know just thinking about this today because i kind of get put out with the people who you know immediately no matter what the committee says they're outraged they're disgusted how can this happen they don't know what they're talking about indiana has answered the questions that at least I deem important. Do you look like a playoff team? Have you handled your competition well? How often have
Starting point is 00:33:51 you played at your best? And the only place they fall short is who have you done it against? So I do think the way they play against Ohio State will be important. And I don't foresee this happening. I think Indiana is a really good football team. But if they were to have happened to them by Ohio State, what say the Hoosiers did to Nebraska, beat them 56-7, then I think it calls into question some of the other things that we've seen, most notably, okay, who have you done this against? If you go and play well, you know, and you just happen not to beat a team that I think is capable of winning the national championship in their stadium, then I think Indiana's a lot to make beat a team that I think is capable of winning the national championship in their stadium, then I think Indiana's a lot to make the playoff.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I think it's far more likely than not that they will, regardless of what happens in Columbus. But the only scenario that I could see them, other than getting upset by Purdue or something ridiculous. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't even put that out there. Don't even put that out there. You're right. You're right. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I apologize for that. If I may borrow from you, my friend, they didn't deserve that, so I apologize for that. No problem. But, you know, if they play well against Ohio State, I think they've looked like a playoff team from start to finish over the course of the season and deserve to be there. But that strength of schedule number is not one of the things that's going to help their cause.
Starting point is 00:35:07 It's going to be one of the things that they have overcome by the way they've played. Hey, football judgment, does that mean like how they execute plays, how the ball comes out, how the offense looks, let alone who you're playing? But like, would this hold up against a great team is what they're trying to do in football judgment, right? Yeah, that's a term that I like to use. Some people call it the eye test, but we have people in that room who have played and coached at the highest level. And when they look at that team, how good do they think they are? You know, absent the metrics. Now, the record should count.
Starting point is 00:35:35 The results have to matter. I'm not saying that. But when you watch the team play, are they executing well? Do they look like a playoff team it's not just you know recruiting stars or size speed anything like that how do they execute do they look like a team that is worthy of being on that stage and i think indiana has passed that test easily okay let's go to hammer dot time ap tone has a question for you reese all All right, Reese, this is a hypothetical, but I'm wearing the Army hoodie today for a reason. Let's just say that Army somehow beats Notre Dame next week. Whoa! Okay?
Starting point is 00:36:12 And then they're undefeated. They beat Navy. They win their conference championship. And then you have Boise. Their one loss is a very, very, very, very close loss to the number one ranked Oregon team. Is there a world where Army and Boise could both get in? Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I thought you were going to ask me something else. I don't think so, Tony. I don't think you could get them both in. It would take some teams really falling on their face and falling out of contention to open up that type of scenario. I think that what it would take for Army to get in would be for Boise State to lose. Army right now, it'll get better with the games you've mentioned, although the Navy game, this will all be decided prior to the game against Navy that they play,
Starting point is 00:36:57 assuming that they don't play them in the championship game, which seems unlikely right now. So it'll all be decided by then but at this moment they have the second easiest schedule in the country so you know for all the talk about indiana and even texas for that matter texas schedule is not terribly strong army is that to an extreme so they'll need some help i think they'll need boise state to lose for sure and they'll need to finish undefeated and and look good against notre dame okay so they might be pissed, but there's going to be somebody or numerous people that are not happy at the end, even though we got 12 instead of four.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Reese, who do you think is going to be the most pissed that they get left out of the playoff, and why is it Georgia, especially if Texas ends up going on to win the SEC title game and Georgia's the only team that beats the SEC champion? It will be Georgia if they were to not make it. Now, if they beat Tennessee, I think they'll probably be in good shape. But if they were to lose a close game to Tennessee, then you would start to look at the
Starting point is 00:37:57 entire strength of schedule. A lot of that is because of how their conference draw came out. That's just the luck of the draw. But they also played Clemson. And the one thing I think is if you leave a team like Georgia out with a marquee win like it has against Texas, a near miss at Alabama, and let's say Tennessee, who would then be a top four or five team, if not higher, beats them, and you leave Georgia out completely, are you not incentivizing then teams to say, well, I'm going to make my schedule as easy as possible. They may not control the conference portion of it, but you're also sort of cutting away at this outcry people have had to try to
Starting point is 00:38:35 have the SEC go to nine games, which I think they should. But if you're not going to reward it, then I think that's a problem.. I'm going to offer this one little caveat about that. Georgia, sort of like Indiana against Ohio State, Georgia needs to play well. If they play as they did against Ole Miss, they don't look like a playoff team. They didn't look like a playoff team against Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Isn't it crazy? Carson Beck was, you know, he's in love though. Of course. He's in love. Do you see old buddy celebrating with his friends at Ole Miss too? I mean, Kirby, this he's in love, though. Of course. He's in love. Do you see old Buddy celebrating with his friends at Ole Miss, too? That was tough. And then everything else that goes on. It's like, Georgia,
Starting point is 00:39:12 if they're able to navigate their way to the tournament, I think everybody's like, look out for the dogs. Look out for the dogs. Even though we've seen this all. Look out for the dogs. But it's like, Carson hasn't looked like Carson Beck. Now, granted, you lose Ladd McConkie, who we've seen this all. Look out for the dogs. But it's like Carson hasn't looked like Carson Beck. Now granted, you lose Ladd McConkie, who we see
Starting point is 00:39:28 doing good things. You lose Brock Bowers, which we see doing great things. He lost a lot of premier talent on that offensive side, but I think we all kind of expected more out of Carson. Still got time. We get a big-time win against Tennessee this weekend. Obviously, everything kind of starts to change in this entire thing. Ty has a question for you
Starting point is 00:39:44 about some of the championship bids. Yeahese moving forward after this year i know a big part of the whole situation was hey they want to place importance on the conference championship itself but you you see a world where maybe you know next year based on like if ohio state were to win the big 10 championship and oregon then who's arguably been the best team in college football almost the whole year slides down to that five spot where we have BYU at three. Is there a world where one of these maybe one-loss SEC or Big Ten schools in the future will still get one of those automatic buys and they'll kind of do away with, hey, if you win the Big 12 championship
Starting point is 00:40:19 or you win the ACC championship, you're automatically going to get a first-round buy? I sure hope so because I think that if're automatically going to get a first round buy? I sure hope so, because I think that if you're going to have a committee seed the teams, then we should stick with what they see. And taking a team that, you know, is ranked ninth and moving it into a buy is not the way to do this, in my judgment. You know, even Boise State, if Boise State were to finish ranked ahead of the ACC or the Big 12 champion, they would move in to that buy situation. So as we expand this, what I hope they do is continue to give the automatic bids, continue to give access to the conference champions, because that has been important to all of the stakeholders in college football. But when it comes to seeding, seed it the way you rank it,
Starting point is 00:41:06 or else you can have a formula if you want to. Whatever you do, I don't really see the merit in having a team that is ranked, you know, 6, 7, 8, 9, somehow be seeded third. You know, I don't think that's the way to do this. So I hope that happens. Reese, you know what, and we talked about this earlier. I think that the college football playoff every single tuesday if they're going to continue to do it every single week they should just put out the bracket and that not even do the
Starting point is 00:41:32 top 25 where we're dealing with 13 is actually a six and that they should just put out what the bracket is yes that's what i think personally for people to maybe understand it easier but after one year of it maybe people understand it easier anyways going forward. How do you feel about that? You know, it's a confusing thing, and that's why, you know, we've done this every single time we talk playoff on game day.
Starting point is 00:41:53 We've done it every single top 25 show, and I still know that on selection day because it's a little confusing because people have real-world lives, and they're paying attention to their team and how their team is doing and they're you know what's going to happen they're going to wait what do you mean byu's ranked six but they're the three seat why you know and it's so i think it just creates more confusion so i hope i hope that uh we'll get to that point i you know i like the reveal show i've done it for 10 years so it's kind of fun or 11 years now so it's kind of fun but you're right the fact that the rankings and
Starting point is 00:42:31 seedings don't match up it's just just a recipe for confusion and people getting mad could still do it could still have the list of like first ones out you know and then here's the bracket without putting number without doing it like hey here's this here's that and without putting numbers, without doing it. Like, hey, here's this, here's that. And then you can let the AP do the top, just let the AP do their top 25, and we can all mock and ridicule them. Go ahead and attack them. Just let the college football playoff just be like, here's the bracket, here's the first ones out. Still a rollout each week.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I think it's still a very important thing. But when you start having two numbers next to teams, I think you're immediately asking for people to be like, riddle me this. Which number? Contradicting them. There will be people who think Georgia is in because they're 12th in the AP. Without a doubt. Georgia fans know
Starting point is 00:43:15 ball. So it's not like if it was another school that wasn't like as all in and they're 12th in their head, we're in. Yeah, they're the bottom seed. And it's like, but it is the first year, so maybe things will grow. There is a situation that could happen down the SEC. Let's go to Hammer.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Time, time. Full chaos potentially, Tone. Yeah, Reese, because this is our jobs, I assume you have seen this scenario as well. And it's not that wild of a scenario. Just if the SEC favorites win over the next three weeks, and those are the teams in the red boxes with the highlighter around them, and those are all favorites in this situation,
Starting point is 00:43:51 and then you get the upset of Arkansas over Missouri, which is a lot of – I don't even know if that is an upset at this point. Ooh, Drinkwit's not going to be happy. I know. He's mad at everybody. He's retweeting everybody that was commenting on him during the game. But Arkansas is a good team, and Mizzou's been vulnerable points. Have you seen this where, you know, and then if LSU wins SEC championship, what happens then, Reese?
Starting point is 00:44:13 What happens then? I mean, LSU could get him with the three losses is the first thing. And that's not terribly far-fetched, but I'm going to tell you the one I'm rooting for, there's still a scenario in which we could have an eight-way tie for first place, which would be first and second place, which means all of those teams would have two losses. And the only significant upset you would need would be for, I believe, Auburn to beat A&M in Auburn and then A&M to turn around and beat
Starting point is 00:44:47 Texas. Now, we've seen SEC teams lose a bunch of road games this year, and it would take Georgia winning on Saturday night. And then they all would be, assuming that all other favorites won, then everybody would be six and two, all of those contenders, and they have to sort it out. And that might still favor. I think I've read someplace, if that happens, that LSU and Alabama would come out of that with a tiebreaker if that one were to happen.
Starting point is 00:45:14 We would need a live tiger at the game. We would need a live tiger if they were to have another championship over there in Atlanta. I want Omar and Mike making the trip over there. Governor Jeff Landry, did you see his quote postgame? I did.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I saw it. I've been having some fun with him. I don't think, you know, if you're going to bring the Tiger, I love the idea of bringing Mike in. But I don't think you can bring the fake Mike in. Whoa! Who's real? Whoa! Whoa! Omar was... Okay. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:45:50 They didn't know if Mike the 7th was ready for the 102,000. Understandable. Going crazy. From my understanding, and you were at the same dinner I was at. That was one of the most entertaining stories I've ever heard in my life, Reese. Legit. In 2024, hearing that story, I was like, yes.
Starting point is 00:46:06 There is so much. And so many people pissed. So many people pissed. And so many different angles of this. Especially right off election week. I mean, it's just like so many pieces to it. And they lose. And then Governor Jeff Landry goes,
Starting point is 00:46:23 the live tiger isn't the only tradition at LSU. So is the tradition of winning. Forever LSU. Great to see you in Baton Rouge. It's like, hey, Governor Jeff Landry, I think we're coming back down there. Brian Kelly's got a team that's going to be able to run. Now, they're going to have to win some of these games, though.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And if there's a live tiger out there, they're going to need to win that one. Yeah. They're going to need to win that one the next time. All right, let's move away from college ball. Football, let's go to college hoops. D-Bot has a question for you, Reese. Yeah, Reese, I know it's November. We are right smack dab in the middle of, obviously, NFL,
Starting point is 00:46:53 and you are college football. But there's one man who kind of can have his eye on both. College basketball obviously kicked off, tipped off as well. You know, I'm going to ask you about my UConn Huskies and their chances to go on a three-peat here. But who else is going to be right there in it to win it all in March, in your opinion? I think – I still think UConn's probably the team to beat.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Now, Kansas is really good. A couple transfers to add to Hunter Dickinson. Alabama and Auburn are both excellent. Auburn got in a fight on the plane on the way to Houston. They turned around the plane the other day and landed it, and then, I guess, took off again and then went down and actually won the game. So that shows a little bit of resilience. You see the little stuff in the neck.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That's pretty good. And I think that those teams are the ones off the top, and then certainly, even though Duke lost to Kentucky last night with Cooper Flagg, this dude's big time. So those are the ones off the top and then certainly even though Duke lost Kentucky last night with Cooper Flagg uh this dude this dude's big time so uh those are the teams there but hey look until somebody knocks your huskies out hell yeah I think uh I think they're the team to beat you know I mean that guy that guy can put together a winning ball club he's awesome on our show every time he's awesome everywhere he's a man there's uh obviously clips of them up 30 against people and him losing his mind because his attention to detail. He told us that if he sees one of his
Starting point is 00:48:08 players post on Instagram, he's like surprised. We're not here to post. We're here to bowl. We're here to win. The Maui Invitational is the first one. We're winning that one. Then we're going to go ahead and win every other trophy that we're supposed to win. We're not worried about dancing or TikToks. It's like
Starting point is 00:48:23 that's going to be a tough wagon to slow down. Yeah, it's like Dan Lenny kind of. Yeah, especially because they got McWhiteGuy up there. Yeah, McWhiteGuy, he can fill it up. Best freshman in country. Liam McNeely. McNeely? If not, his name's Liam McWhiteGuy.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yep, I got him too. Yeah, him. He flips the switch when he goes on. He's Liam McNeely whenever he's at practice him he he flips the switch when he goes on he's liam mcnailey whenever he's in practice then he flips switch soon as he gets on that court he becomes liam mcwhite guy puts the thing on and he starts hitting cooper flag battling right now uh the main event is obviously going to be a stud he's so tall filthy he's so good 26 and 12 and lost obviously got a long season how many games a long season. How many games did they play, Reese? How many games college basketball?
Starting point is 00:49:07 Depending on how many exempt games you play, you get up in the upper 30s by the time the tournament's over. 37, 38 usually if you get to the end. You'll be around 30 by the time the tournament gets here. Putting you on the spot here, which is, I think you're one of the people that you can do. What's the best, how many wins, like, has anybody gone perfect through a college basketball season? Do we know that answer? Yeah, the last time was Bob Knight in 1976. That was the last. I love that. Maybe
Starting point is 00:49:38 because Indiana basketball, or football's back, maybe they'll be able to do that again. So, gonna lose, right? Gonna lose games. That's just how college basketball is. Yeah. I don't think anybody this year is cut out. There's too much parity, too much moving around. I doubt anyone will go. I think what – D-Buck will probably know. I think UConn lost three last year, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yep, two or three. Yeah, they seemed impossible to beat, and they still – I remember watching one night. They got run pretty good at Creighton, you know, so it happens. How much is NIL over there? I think watching one night. They got run pretty good at Creighton. So it happens. How much is NIL over there? He's tough. How much it is? He said it actually helps them go near the turn. How much NIL
Starting point is 00:50:13 transfer portal shit's happening in college basketball? A lot? A lot. A ton. I don't know that it's quite always as expensive as football, but there's plenty of it going on. Duke actually gave Cooper Flagg Maine. He got the entire state.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Really? He just bought it instead of Maine? Yeah. So many lobsters? Yeah, he owns all of it now. He owns all the lobsters? Yeah, he owns every single part of Maine. What about the bears?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Isn't there a lot of bears in there? He owns every tree, every lobster, every ship, every house. It's all his. Duke bought him that? Yeah. It's like 20 bucks. Damn. NIL is crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:49 That's how they got him away from UConn. Yeah. Main event and my state. UConn went all in on McWhite guy, which you got to respect. A kid can fill it up. All right. We appreciate you, Reese. I'll see you down in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Can't wait for those Athens folks to see me. Real pumped to get down there. They'll love you. Everybody grows to get down there. They'll love you. Everybody grows to love you. Everybody grows to love you. That is not the truth. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. The legend, Reese David. Yeah, Reese!
Starting point is 00:51:15 Everybody grows to love you. I thought that was the case, potentially, but then I fell into this college football world and it's been three, four years now. That is not the case. Not even your own tooth. Yeah, my tooth was fighting me this whole six weeks. Drew, to hate you. It did.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It was attacking me from within. The enemy's always within. Yeah. Enemy is always within your own camp. Yeah. That thing was right here. I was told I'm going to feel better today, too. I'm in quite a bit of pain.
Starting point is 00:51:37 No, no, no. Yeah, the day after, not a chance. I am in some solid pain right now. You're going to be hurting today. Those wisdom teeth make no sense. Yeah, so I got one that's up in my sinuses. Never going to show up. That one's okay, I was told.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Okay, I'm like, oh. Yeah, you'll be fine. It's in your nose. You got a tooth in your nose. That one's up in my sinus. That one's good. Yeah. Don't get dry sock.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah, oh boy. Yeah, I was told I can't smoke. Not that I do. Can't smoke cigarettes. You shouldn't anyway. Yeah, I would never smoke. Yeah. Nobody smokes cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Can't be smoking. Don't drink out of a straw, they said. I. Nobody smokes it. Can't be smoking. Don't drink out of a straw, they said. I'd be doing anything. Don't do it. You got them before? No, I didn't. Oh, yeah. I got dry sockets.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Not fun. Do you want one of these? Because I'm starting to kind of weigh the options here on, you know, potential. Just saying, fuck it. Sage. Yeah. Or dry sockets. I'm kind of in a.
Starting point is 00:52:23 No, dude. You get those. You have to get the syringe with, like, the hot water dry salt. You get those. You have to get the syringe with the hot water and salt and you have to put it in there and wash them out every hour because it hurts so bad. Three and a half hours yesterday with people doing great people.
Starting point is 00:52:38 It's a long time. Dr. Brady, fantastic. That nitrous, I've never really a nitrous guy. It does kind of give you a little getcha it gets you a little loopy a little loosey yeah a little loosey i have a massive snozz okay so i have a big nose they had that thing on my nose and they're pumping it so i couldn't see anything that was going on i think that was a big part of it could not see the hands could feel them you know felt multiple fingers at different times but didn't know what archaic looking tool was going into my mouth they had the lineup of all the tools that were going to be used
Starting point is 00:53:09 and i was like don't look at them don't look at them what year is this holy shit and we haven't evolved from that thing and it's like well actually it has to because it's tough to get back in there and yours in a way back they were phenomenal didn't see it it's through the roof hurts like shit right now yeah hurts like shit stay like shit. Stay out of that, Ibu. Ibuprofen is a real deal. It is. Isn't it? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Never really used it. Just like, we got Tordol here? Yeah, I'm going to take that. I guess Ibuprofen is like a... Yeah, it's like the... The common man. Junior varsity version. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And I just go by, I guess, this is me not knowing how to be a human, and that's on me. Speaking of humans, Jim Harbaugh continues to be an awesome one. He was miked up this past weekend for their game. And just like we thought, Jim Harbaugh is always Jim Harbaugh. Spinning good, Justin. Oh, yeah. Wow. Coming out clean, huh?
Starting point is 00:53:59 Running wherever he wants right now. Ready to fire, 10. Shot, nice shot, 10. Ready to fire, 10. Yeah! This is warm-ups. It's warm-ups. Love you, love you, love you. Let's go. I think we should just run it. 100%. I'm just pretending like I'm drawing a pass here. Hey, pretend like you're throwing a pass here.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Well, backside. I mean, I could... Yes, yes. Or the other side. Or the other side, both sides. And they're gonna go empty. Herbert rolling to the right, and here he goes! Herbert into the end zone! That's a beast! Beast mode, baby! My God! That's my God!
Starting point is 00:54:42 He's such a beast for holding on to that ball. That Herbert, I mean, he's beast for holding on to that ball. That Herbert, I mean, he's incredible. He's trying to hold on to that ball. You guys made the right call on that Justin Herbert. His hand is so big and his strength is so – he just held on to it and threw it. Oh, yeah, way to go, Beast! He's calling him Beast from now on.
Starting point is 00:54:59 He's a beast. Justin's a beast. Way to run. You're a beast. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:55:10 Hey, why does he win everywhere he goes? Yeah. Geez, from warm-ups all the way through the entirety of the game, just putting over his guy. And remember, for a long time, they were losing those close games, losing those close games. You wonder what Justin Herbert's NFL career is going to be. Hey, this guy's got all the potential in the world is he ever going to go on and win
Starting point is 00:55:26 are they going to lose then he gets a guy in there i've never seen somebody champion somebody man like what he is doing justin herbert just feel what justin herbert has to feel with that right behind you at a very powerful yeah he's a great player and as as a coach that's something that we don't talk about a lot even on the professional level like empowering your players and obviously that's one of the best players but I'm sure that he does that throughout the roster. Even when we had him on, we first, I don't even know what question you asked. Accidentally. He just went down the roster of 15 guys just talking about different things.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And I had a coach that every Saturday night he would always remind us, hey, like everybody, like you guys are world class. Like you wouldn't be in this room if you weren't world class. Sometimes players just got to be reminded because confidence, you know how big that is when you're going out there to play. So that's a huge, huge part of, I'm sure, Harbaugh's success. Not only him, but his family. I'm sure he's taught that.
Starting point is 00:56:12 But it's no surprise why this guy builds winners wherever he goes. I just love how much he loves his quarterback. That's unreal. Hey, Q, have you ever seen that before? Legitimately, have you ever seen that before? I know Bruce Arians and quarterbacks get along. They had a little different relationship. Jim Harbaugh is like, hey, Herbert, I want to let you know,
Starting point is 00:56:26 you can do no wrong for me, even in warm-ups. Yeah. Even when, oh, coming out clean. Tony, offensive coordinator, hey, he's fucking spinning it today. Let's make sure we're doing that. What a time out there. Had to feel good, especially if you win. Yeah, that was incredible.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I mean, it was incredible to see him build the guy up. Confidence is everything, though. It is everything. Especially at the quarterback position. Yeah. Winning those close games, why does it happen? Well, the team that believes. It's going to be hard not to believe whenever your head coach is like, oh. Yeah. It's beast. We got an inhuman here.
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Starting point is 00:57:38 The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. I see your hat. Hockey's happening. Hockey is happening. Bruins, huge win last night. Passed a game-winning goal with like a minute 30 left. It's buzzing. The Bruins are turning it around just as they should be getting hot.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Actually, I think the Pens are doing real well now too. Yeah, let's go to one half of the hammer. Die. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino in the back. Gumpy, the Pens played your Texas hockey team the other night, right? Yeah, six-piece nugget in the first period. Holy shit. Finish 7-1, though.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Finish 7-1. You guys got the Red Wings tonight, though, at home. It was 1-1 for the final two periods. Okay, so you guys got a point from that. We're playing an amateur team this evening. Six goals in one period. In the first period. It was 5-0 within the first 10 minutes, I think.
Starting point is 00:58:26 What? Kick them out of the league. Whoa. You know what? Tonight, let's make that the game. Loser leaves town? Loser leaves the league. There it is.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Wow. Loser leaves the league. Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Red Wings tonight. Hockey town will always be Detroit, though. But, yeah, I like that. Loser leaves town. Detroit wasn't invited to the tournament during COVID.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Have fun playing for a COVID Cup. We play for Stanley Cups. You're not going to be invited again this year either, so don't worry about it. Oh, yeah! The boys are ready to go. They're going to win tonight. We're going 10 in a row after this. And we know where that game's being played tonight, obviously. It's being played in
Starting point is 00:59:04 Pittsburgh. Of course. Pocky time! That's right. Wait till you experience it, Foxy. The Detroit Red Wings players are going to have no idea what's happening. Oh my god, these people love hockey so much more than our city. I don't think anyone actually shows up to Penguins games anymore, do they? Well, they're losing 6-0
Starting point is 00:59:20 in the first period. There's a reason. It's hard to stick around. We got shit to do. We got jobs to work. Gardell's going to be there. Let's keep in mind the Lions are back. Pistons are back. That means the Red Wings are back, and they're going to win. You guys kind of suck, I think, just like us. But Billy Gardell is waving the –
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah, he'll be waving the Penguins flag. He always does. Heard he was playing third-line center tonight. I would take it. I would put Gardell out there. Absolutely. Those teams stink. How are the Panthers? Both of stink. How are the Panthers?
Starting point is 00:59:47 Both of them. How are the Panthers? We took it all last night. At home to the Devils, brother. Saw good scrap, though. Saw good scrap last night between the Panthers. Great tilt. Yeah, it was. It really was a good fight. I forget that the Panthers are so tough, you know? That's kind of their M.O. Because you're down there in South Florida, you automatically just think, oh, this team's soft.
Starting point is 01:00:03 They're not at all. They're a tough team. Are they going to win it again, D-Bug? I think so. 11-4-1 right now. We're rolling. We didn't have Bob in the net though, so. Where's Bob at? I don't know. Not being tough, it sounds like. He'll be back. He'll be back. He's a little bit of a baby. He'll be back. Is Bob still on their team? Yeah, just got the night off.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Oh, we're taking rest days. Say to Shaq about that. Let's see, let's get Shaq's thoughts while people have their rest days. This early in the year. 12-year NFL center. Guard. Fullback. Wedge setter.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley. The latter might have been my best. You were a great wedge setter. You were king of wedge. KO'd Dub. That's right. No doubt. Take the KO'd Dub and the KO'd Dees, and they're going to celebrate with a couple of D's.
Starting point is 01:00:48 He was a beast. That was back whenever people were actually, and he was just standing right there for it. Face of it. Send two, three guys. You got to do whatever you got to do. I got to do what I got to do. He had those quick feet, too, with the power. That was awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:00 You were great at that job. Zero regard for my body. I think we had zero kickoff returns for touchdowns, too. Way to go, AQ. I was high-fiving the shit out of pancake blocks, though. Yes, you were. Yes, you were. Live from Hammer.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Time. Time. AP Tone's over there. Tone, great college football discussion in the first hour. I felt like we really got through a lot there in the college ball world. We did it, and we covered it all. The only other thing that I think we need to start pushing, and you need to start pushing, and by
Starting point is 01:01:26 we I mean you, on the national platform that is College Game Day is that those that semi not the semifinal, the quarterfinal round needs to be home games as well. We need to start pushing that. This show is on the same channel as that show so I think what you just said
Starting point is 01:01:42 could certainly have the power, but you're right. the um institution and influence world that college game day is we do need home field throughout until the championship why not home field throughout the entire and and i know the bowl games pay a lot of money for that whole thing sweet just name those the bowl game and have a little bit of flavor in those places but if you're a higher seed and you win or you're a champion and you win you should be able to defend these games in your house and we should be showcasing what college ball has that nobody else has which is the stadiums the pageantry the tradition everything like that i agree tone you're right we should have brought
Starting point is 01:02:18 that up to reese he's the one who could actually probably get that done yeah probably motivates places to build up their stadiums too even, even more. Like you've talked about after Penn State out there, like, yeah, we need to make this thing bigger, going to add to it. Like, I bet Oregon, if they had the chance to host multiple home playoff games, it's like, hey, we only have 60,000 people. There'd probably be 100,000 people in here if we could.
Starting point is 01:02:38 LSU just put $19.8 million in their stadium. A couple years back, it was $10 million I think Alabama put in their stadium. A&M, a few years before that. Massive upgrade. It's like, if you're going to have these premier games, not that every game isn't, and I get it, but these college football playoff games,
Starting point is 01:02:54 I mean, you have a chance to really spotlight college ball to a lot of people that don't watch all year. And we know numbers are up. But the thing about college ball that is different than everything else... But the thing about college ball that is every person understands. It's like that is what needs to be celebrated. These corporate events at neutral sites, it's like we appreciate, we respect the money, but if we're going to showcase it for one round, I think the champs should at least
Starting point is 01:03:36 have a chance to showcase theirs as well. And then also, let's go with the next round as well, the semis. And then for the national championship, we get it. We get it. Fine. It's like a Super Bowl. You got to do what you got to do. Joining us now is a man who's won a Super. And then for the national championship, we get it. It's like a Super Bowl. You've got to do what you've got to do. Joining us now is a man who's won a Super Bowl and a
Starting point is 01:03:47 college football national championship from the great state of Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. Hawker, Ohio State's in a good spot. Got Indiana coming to town in two weeks, though. That could obviously put a little bit of a punch in the mouth to all the Ohio folks. Could you imagine
Starting point is 01:04:03 you guys lose to Indiana at home? The Ohio State fans would be great. Great team. That'd be the nail in the coffin. Oh, you lose to Oregon? That team's not even from, is that America? Big Ten school. Is that the United States of America?
Starting point is 01:04:19 You lost to a Canadian team. That's what some people in Ohio think. And then you're going to lose to Indiana? They have a football team. Indiana's what some people in Ohio think. And then you're going to lose Indiana? They have a football team. Indiana? You lose? Ohio people would actually... I kind of would like to see it now. We got Northwestern.
Starting point is 01:04:33 We got Northwestern this week, Pat, and Wrigley Field. So that's what they're focused on. Oh, you better win that game. Holy shit. Is Greeny going? Is Greeny bringing the game ball? I hope Greeny's there. I hope Greeny's there. And you're right. He should parachute the game ball in. That'd be sweet. Wrigley? That would be so cool. He got a fork this morning
Starting point is 01:04:50 to eat pancakes. College football playoff is cooking. Shows the NFL. Anthony Richardson starting this weekend for the Indianapolis Colts against the Jets. The Colts obviously still have a road to the playoffs and a road to an AFC South championship, believe it or not
Starting point is 01:05:05 now Houston Texas have Nico Collins coming back and maybe they're going to look different going forward they've hit a little bit of a lull who are they what are they I think there's some people questioning it we are a team now that has gone back to our number four overall pick from a year ago Anthony Richardson AJ your first reaction whenever you hear that well you left part of the tweet out didn't say for the rest of the season? Like, that's a big thing, isn't it? Saying he's in for the rest of the season? That is a huge deal because Joe Flacco was the starter for the foreseeable future
Starting point is 01:05:31 until he wasn't. And then now AR is the quarterback of the team. And there's a lot of Colts fans, you know, that have been mad at me calling out what AR did. Now, I don't think those people understand ball or they understand the quarterback position as a whole. Whenever I say, like, can't be doing that as our quarterback, especially as a 22-year-old
Starting point is 01:05:49 and we're building this entire thing up around you, but I think there's a chance he did learn about how he has to operate a little bit differently. Anytime you're publicly scrutinized by everybody, I wasn't the only one, obviously. There's a lot of people that have played football ever in their life that have said he can't do that. That can change some people.
Starting point is 01:06:05 He's young enough to change. He's obviously incredibly dynamic whenever he's on a football field. Maybe the Colts go on a run here with this change, and maybe Shane Steichen was able to go right the course of the culture behind closed doors over the past few days. Yeah, I mean, he probably doesn't need to have any, like, huge wholesale changes. That's the thing that could have happened.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Like, being taken out of the lineup, not playing when you're actually healthy and you can go, it could wake you up. he probably doesn't need to have any huge wholesale changes. That's the thing that could have happened. Being taken out of the lineup, not playing when you're actually healthy and you can go, it could wake you up. It could scare some people and realize, hey, this could be taken away from me pretty quickly when I'm still healthy and can feel pretty good. So, yeah, maybe it will wake them up a little bit. Maybe wake the rest of the team up. If they come out and get up to a fast start, honestly, I think the rest of the team could feed off of that as well.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Jets defense, since Coach Brick has taken over, since Robert Sala has been fired, has been much worse than they were at the beginning of the season. Obviously, it's top five defense, top five defense, top five defense is what everybody has said about this Jets team, which is why everybody was so excited about Aaron going there because the last time Aaron had a top five defense, they won a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:07:01 So you just figured that that would be the case. Now, over the last few weeks, this Jets defense has not been that at all. So it's not a bad time to maybe get A.R. back in there. That Vikings defense was very good. Bill's defense was very good against us. This Jets defense provides an opportunity, maybe, for A.R. to get hot. And then he's got the Lions, which is obviously a buzzsaw. But if we're going to go anywhere we want to go, these are the teams we're going to have to win.
Starting point is 01:07:31 It's not like they don't need to beat the Lions, but if he plays well in that game or at least doesn't have one of these performances that he's had, because you're right. We saw what happened with the Jets last week. The Cardinals got ahead early, and it was over. what happened with the Jets last week with the Cardinals got on ahead early and like it was over I mean there was just there's no so like if they do have a fast start and there's no question he adds that element that you know Joe Flacco doesn't have so if he goes out there and I think you guys are right the whole piece of gum thing like if you're that young like you could probably recognize pretty soon like I'm about to blow my chance here like I have a chance hopefully yeah
Starting point is 01:08:02 hopefully that happens exactly exactly happens. We'll see. I would imagine it was probably a pretty big wake-up call. He doesn't want to be sitting on the bench and having the camera come to him constantly and then he looks on Monday and it's like, oh great, they got me again. Looking disinterested or whatever. Huge opportunity. If this
Starting point is 01:08:21 team wants to utilize me as the person to motivate you for calling you unprofessional and an embarrassment to the Colts, I'm cool with that. I'm cool with whatever motivates you. I don't care. I'm a paying season ticket holder. I'd like to see you guys play good football. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:08:35 And meaningful football. You guys haven't had a fucking primetime game in years. Got flexed out. Jeez Louise. You just got to see progress. That's the thing. We don't expect AR to be an all-pro or a pro bowler right now. You got to see progress.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I can only remember two. I played with both of them. Their rookie year, who I felt like they were ready to play immediately. Andrew Luck was one of them. And then Cam Newton was the other one. They were completely different quarterbacks. But they both played well in the college level, played a bunch of ball. They were different between the years, though,
Starting point is 01:09:05 and they were natural-born kind of leaders in their own right. So those are the things that Anthony Richardson, you want to see that progress. And the NFL is obviously the toughest place to do that. You learn those things on a high school level, on a collegiate level, and then in the NFL you're playing with a bunch of grown-ass men, and you are put up on that pedestal as the starting quarterback. So, once again, he saw it from a different perspective for a couple games.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Now he's back in there as his team again. And as a Colts fan, as a Colts organization, this is the guy you want going forward to just continue to do better and better. To be great. Yeah. Yeah, you don't draft a guy top five to be, you know, okay. And you talk about the Lions and, you know, all these teams, any of these teams, we're going to have to beat them.
Starting point is 01:09:44 If you want to go where you want to go. So it ain't ducking smoke on this level. Yeah, the Vikings and the Bills certainly. Great team. Boy, they showcase a little bit of a differentiator between them and us. You know, but that can change week to week. That can change week to week. Jets, Lions, Patriots, and then Broncos, who by that point,
Starting point is 01:10:02 we don't know. They're a good football team. Yeah, good defense. Now they're going to take 54 off the field goal team, which I assume he is happy about. There's no way that Alex Forsythe guy was enjoying being on the field goal team, being the one that, hey, Kush, you've been on a field goal team? Yeah, that's literally the worst position on the field goal team.
Starting point is 01:10:21 You get run over every single play. Now, just like the quarterback has to have a different mindset. But you've got to stay low. Yeah, agreed. But I'm going to get to that in a second. The quarterback has to have a different mindset than everybody else. You're the quarterback, bro. That's just the way it is. You're the fourth overall pick. They're not just drafting linebacker, the fourth overall pick anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:38 They're not drafting a kicker or a punter or anybody. They're drafting the future of the franchise. You are the future of the franchise. Act like it. Like, that is the whole thing. For that particular position, you are in a position that nobody – you've got to be a special person to play that particular role. And I think the Denver Broncos deserve to take a little shoulder,
Starting point is 01:10:56 a little bit of blame for having that guy out there in that particular spot for that particular kick. It's the most thankless position on the field goal unit, right? Like, it's one of those ones where you are literally getting three people running through you. Your whole job is to stay low, kind of, like, literally put your arms out and hopefully just hang on as long as you can, right? Like, that's the description of the job, right?
Starting point is 01:11:18 But when you stand up, you fall real quick. And he was on his heels, too, so quick. I mean, it was just, like, as soon as the ball was snapped, he was already on his ass. I think I could have maybe even given him one of – and I'm saying I'm weak, better than Alex Force. I'm not saying I could fight this guy. I'm just making a point that I am nowhere near Leo Chennault
Starting point is 01:11:38 or anybody else that's going to be rushing it. And with the way his technique was, he looked like he could have been just knocked over. Like, what's the Huff and Puff straw house? This guy's like a straw house basically at that position. They should have known that by putting him in there. Normally, that's a
Starting point is 01:11:53 little bigger body too, isn't it? It's always alignment. The big thing is, it doesn't matter how big you are. It's all about leverage. Everything in football is leverage. All he has to do is get both feet in the ground quick, head down, literally get your head down, like put it down so you're underneath the defenders
Starting point is 01:12:10 and then literally just put arms out as wide as you can and hang on. The ball will get away. Important spot there though. It is. I think we're all learning about it. You can put D-Lyman there. On the other side there. What's that? On the other side in the video, on the other side of the line is a D lineman.
Starting point is 01:12:26 But to your point, too, about the Broncos having to take a little bit of credit for the fault, whatever the hell you want to say, we watched earlier weeks where the same thing was happening, just they weren't game-winning kicks. But he was getting kind of just like – Yeah, at some point they should have seen that. Yeah. Like in the meeting, they're seeing – everybody's seeing that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Everybody is seeing like, is this the right guy to be our field end is this yeah is this the best we got maybe alex just pissed everybody off over there maybe they're like yeah forsyth sent his ass out there and then all of a sudden leo chanel was able to keep his feet boom joining us now ladies and gentlemen this guy is no stranger to blocking kicks. Giving maximum effort and also finding the fish on the offensive line. He's one of the greatest fishermen of all time whenever it comes to that. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:13:14 Ring of Honor member for the Houston Texans. First ballot Hall of Famer around the corner. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Watt. JJ, that block, obviously you are no stranger to blocking kicks. You have done a few in your day. Finding the person to attack is a big part of blocking kicks. And then what is your takeaway from this particular block, JJ?
Starting point is 01:13:33 Man, this guy is getting roasted all week. I feel bad for him. Me too. I do feel bad for him. It's a shitty job to start with, and then the only time you ever get recognized on is when you do it poorly. And he obviously did it poorly and paid for it. And now I don't think he ever expected his name to be mentioned this many times on ESPN in probably his life, if we're being honest.
Starting point is 01:13:57 So not ideal. But I give all credit to Leo Chanel for driving his feet through it because a lot of times, even when that guy falls down quickly like that, the whole point of it is you drag people down with you, you fall, like you get tripped up, you can't quite get there. But he kept driving his feet, and that last little push with that last foot is what propelled him to it. But they had three or four guys that were going to block that. It was pretty wild.
Starting point is 01:14:23 But I said it on Sunday, and something that you guys know well, like the Broncos are sitting on that sideline like we did it. We did it. This is great. We're going to go. This flight home is going to be awesome. We're going to have a great, maybe a victory Monday. This is great.
Starting point is 01:14:37 We're going to go into another week with a high. And the Chiefs are always like, damn, 8-1. Could have been 9-0. This is, gosh, but it it's okay we'll be all right we'll bounce back and then you just and patrick's totally different across the field holy hell we just stole one wow we stole one what a play we're gonna call you back our audio connection with you isn't as as good as it normally is it's on us not on you jage he that that's a valid point and i think we talked about it old buddy keeping his feet age like that is an easy way to trip up there but not only keeping his feet like finding enough yeah usually yeah usually
Starting point is 01:15:10 those guys are getting knocked over all the time but you we know like you got to die slow as we say you're trying to fall down slow and trip people up as you go so yeah the fact that chanel was able to get a foot in the ground like jj said to propel himself that's what's most impressive usually like you're stepping all over legs and arms and you don't really get to jump into it like that. They're making compilations all around the internet of 54 and how he's been at this particular role. But I don't know how many people
Starting point is 01:15:35 who are watching those videos are going to say he is going to fall. I mean, that is part of the gig. So I think a lot of people are saying like, oh, look at him getting his ass beat. He's falling. It's like, that is... He's got to fall a little slower.
Starting point is 01:15:45 A little slower. Yeah, you can't just... It's every player falling. You can't just get blown. Like, that is... You got to at least try to stop somebody. You know, like, you got to put up a little bit of a fight, a little bit of a barricade.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Joining us again, ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Wall. Hey, baby, J.J. I'm back. I was trying to do Mike. I was trying to get a good Mike. I was trying to, like, be professional and everything, and clearly it didn't work, so... there's a setting on there i bet like that you didn't think it even existed it's probably in some file settings audio the sad part is i tried that i i downloaded the
Starting point is 01:16:16 full-blown app on my computer screen i messed with the gain i messed with everything and i still couldn't get it pretty disappointed no now you going to have to pay somebody to come in And they're the same people that told you Going from a one-on-one interview To a one-on-five interview is going to take two hours Good luck It'll be fun But guys, I heard this stat
Starting point is 01:16:37 Connor, maybe you could prove something about the Lions When Jared Goff throws five picks You son of a bitch You mother You son of a bitch. You mother. You son of a bitch. Connor, we all have a little situation. Yeah, look, okay, there's a new Barry McOchner in his, I don't know what his full name is.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Mr. Siv. Yeah, Mr. Siv. He got me. And to be completely clear, this son of a bitch has like 40,000 followers. So it wasn't as if it was just some random schlub. And he had a very, very well photoshopped from StatMuse underneath that tweet about him being 6-0. It is not true. I guess Jared Goff is 1-1.
Starting point is 01:17:16 You got to look out for this son of a bitch, Mr. Siv. He's good at what he does. He is on his way to being McOchner 2.0. I got a lot of respect for him. Granted, he kept me up until like 2 a.m., pissed off at myself last night for getting me, but look, hats off to the guy. That's a great Photoshop. That's a great stack because
Starting point is 01:17:33 Goof has done a lot of... He's done a lot of shit like that, so if you told me that Jared Goff had that type of stat line, I'd say, you know what, son of a bitch is probably right. He probably did do that, but he didn't. He's 1-1 in games where he's throwing four-plus picks. Well, I found it, as he was saying, it's seven games this guy's throwing four picks. That's a lot of – that's 28 interceptions.
Starting point is 01:17:56 But then you start thinking to yourself, as it's all happening in real time, and Aaron Rodgers is stating it, so I'm like, yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe. That's wild stat. That is a wild stat. Where are the community notes? Yeah, well, community notes, I guess, is more. And I like the way he tweeted,
Starting point is 01:18:12 this is how easy it is to spread fake information. It's like, you're in the football world. You got a lot of followers. Good at it on the entire thing. And community notes, I guess, just isn't trying to catch up with McCockner 2.0. It is community noted now. We need that.
Starting point is 01:18:27 We need that. Thanks, Jage. I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy, Jage. Let's talk. I was just curious. I just wanted to know if it was true or not. I was just curious if it was true. It was nice to have backup from Connor. I figured he's the guy to go to.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Aaron tossed it out there as like, is this true? And then it was just a heart. Yep, that's true. That's not good. We got to get better. But now this Siv is on our radar. Okay, Siv is on our radar. I can't take anything. That's a one-time shot. He took his shot. And it works.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I mean, it works. He actually said, stay tuned. I got some good stats for this upcoming Sunday. Okay, Siv, we know you're a McConner now, which we did not know. And that's good. Hey, congrats, Siv. That's said, stay tuned. I got some good stats for this upcoming Sunday. Okay, Siv, we know you're a McOchner now, which we did not know. And that's good. Hey, congrats, Siv. That's on us, though. We need to be a little bit more attention to detail. Obviously, we don't like giving out any misinformation,
Starting point is 01:19:15 but let's talk about a five-interception game, one of them being on a Hail Mary at the end of the half and then them winning. How do you feel about the Lions? And then, obviously, massive game for them this weekend. What are your thoughts on the Detroit Lions? They're winning when they're not supposed to. That's a dangerous team. Oh, they're a very dangerous team. There's no denying it, especially in a game like that where you look at the first half and nothing is going their way.
Starting point is 01:19:36 You're like, oh, this one's just kind of out of it. But you're never out of it when Dan Campbell's your coach and they handle things the way they do. Obviously, from my side and the Texans' side, it's very difficult. I had a stat that I had to personally look up to make sure that I was right on, but the Texans have not scored a second-half touchdown five of the last six games. That is a problem. And when you have a team like Detroit on the ropes like that, up 23-7 in the third quarter, you have to close them out. You have to find a way.
Starting point is 01:20:07 It was a crazy game. You could say it was a sloppy game in that there's so many interceptions. Obviously, it was all back and forth, but it was a very fun game to watch. As a Texans fan, not at the end, but a very fun game to watch back and forth. Yeah, and the Lions and Jared Go goff the way they handled it afterwards like golf still spoke to the team in the locker room it wasn't like he was embarrassed of his performance it was like hey we move on we got the win they have the right mindset they seem to be a mature team now speaking of mature teams uh cj stroud's in his second year you got some young
Starting point is 01:20:39 weapons down there in houston a loss like that can cause some maybe some concern going forward d-butt has a question about your concern going forward. Yeah, tough, tough loss at home in prime time. Now, I didn't hear this myself or hear it directly from a player, should I say? I'm going to ask you. Heard Texas had a players-only meeting, the dreaded players-only meeting. They are sitting on top of the AFC South, but what's your level of concern with that going forward?
Starting point is 01:21:04 Oh, no. It's a great thing right? I have heard that there was a long players only meeting uh I am on record in the past discussing players only meetings and what those generally mean for an organization uh when I saw the first half on Sunday I was very close to tweeting out, maybe it's the first players only meeting in history that was productive and positive. It worked. And then the second half happened. So I'm hoping that something more positive comes out.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Maybe it needed to be longer. Maybe they needed to double the length of players only meeting. They were saying two hours. Multiple hours. I did hear two hours. I have Wasn't it a – they were saying two hours. Multiple hours. I did hear two hours. I have no direct sources, but I did hear two hours. What the fuck are you doing for two hours? That's wild.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Everybody on the team got ten minutes. All right, everybody in here gets ten minutes. Taimi, you're first. Fairbairn, what are your thoughts? I missed the 58-yarder. It's the first 50-yarder that I've ever missed, seemingly, this year. We've got to be better at attention. Okay, long snapper.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Get up there, pal. What do you got? Okay, CJ, Will, Nico. Is everybody talking? Is there a presentation? It's a long meeting. I don't know. I don't know. That's just a long meeting, man. It's a long meeting. I don't know. I don't know what – that's just a long meeting in general. Two hours.
Starting point is 01:22:28 It doesn't matter if it's the head coach running it, if it's the players running it. That's a long time to be in that meeting room. I hope there was a presentation. Better if there's plays, something. I hope there was some – maybe some pictures. Presentation. Jage, can you tell – Jage, tell people that don't –
Starting point is 01:22:43 that have never been a part of a players-only meeting, how do they usually go? What's usually the vibe? How do you, when you walk around? Most players-only meetings are, well, I mean, I'm biased here, so I can't. I choose to believe that this one is different than a lot of the ones that are a team that's considered to be a football contender. In general.
Starting point is 01:23:01 But like other ones, I mean, there is a lot of like, there's one guy up there that's like hey guys i'm going to take control this we're going to get this under control right away and there's a lot of people in the room rolling their eyes laying back in their seats kind of waiting um and then there's definitely one guy speaking that should not be speaking in front of the team ever every time for sure for sure And he's going to try and rally the troops and really give his go of it, what he's seeing from the sidelines
Starting point is 01:23:28 that he thinks the team needs to work on. Nice. And that guy's always a fucking idiot. Yes. Yep. Always. That is true. Every team has that.
Starting point is 01:23:37 And then somebody tries to bring it back around and they're like, all right, so what we're going to take away from this is that we all need to come in a little earlier we all need to stay a little later we all need to really give it a give it a good go this week as as uh the jets say three good weeks of practice we need that um and then we're gonna be good and uh it just ends and everybody leaves and immediately starts talking to their close clique of friends like,
Starting point is 01:24:06 God, that was fucking dumb. Talking shit about everybody's speech. Can you believe what's-his-nuts got up there and said, like, he played one snap one time. And he thinks he can tell us how to play? Man, I have never heard anybody say that they like the players only meeting. But this next younger generation takes a little bit more ownership of shit, right? Yeah. They –
Starting point is 01:24:27 Some of them. Some of them. I don't know. They're entrepreneurial. Yeah, Patriots are 2-0 since they're players-only meeting. So this younger generation might be different, you know, because maybe they feel as if they can say stuff to each other that maybe coaches feel like they can't say to this generation.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Sure. You know, so maybe this batch of Utes, okay, in the NFL right now are the proper group for a players-only meeting because maybe they do need it. Maybe that is. But everyone I've been a part of, it turns into a comedy show. The Patriots could be a little case study on it because their coach called them out publicly, which generally doesn't work for the most part. He called them soft publicly that
Starting point is 01:25:05 turned out to work well for him maybe they're 2-0 since the players only meeting maybe maybe they got something going there oh young team that's a good point players only meeting are tough but i think like unit meetings or like position groups if like you have like a little art because we we watch the most film together. We spend the most time together. We're the most. And, like, Big Mike, conflict is good sometimes. So, hey, like, lock in, bro. Like, we see you in meetings.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You're over here. You know, you half-assing, walk-throughs. And then when your numbers call, you're up there, and you're fucking up all of us now. You know what I mean? So those meetings, I think, can't be productive. It just gets tough when you're in the offense, defense, special teams, and then everybody feels like they have to just say
Starting point is 01:25:46 something because they're in there. But you've got to know your team. You've got to know your units. You've got to know your teammates. But yeah, it's players only meetings. Yeah, they're all tough. I think we all think of it. Maybe this generation is different. Maybe they... Two hours in there is a long time. That's a long time. I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing. No, D-Buck's right, though.
Starting point is 01:26:02 It needs to be organic, though. When you call a meeting time and then you have one guy who's a vet who says, hey, everybody in here, we're having a players-only meeting today. That's just never good. But in a position group, if you're watching practice or something and you see a guy that's been a turd for weeks and weeks and a vet calls him out in front of the rest of that group, I think that can have very positive outcomes.
Starting point is 01:26:22 So Paul Gallant says says z just pulled up this tweet the texans had a players only meeting last monday per john alexander they told us they had another one after sunday night's l and jimmy ward hinted there could be a third players only meeting in a couple days my god paul galat says said a little concerning though maybe they're just adding a meeting to the schedule each week it's like we're going to talk to each other. That is what we're going to do. Just hang out. Sounds terrible. Jage, that's Houston, Texas, brother.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Which leads me to this. Colts. Everything's still out there. Door's open. Everything is still out there. No, no, no. Let's go, Yards. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I came into this show thinking we're not going to talk about the four and six Colts today, are we? Four and six. We can't talk about that. No players, only meetings. Which is part of the problem, actually. I don't know how to handle this situation, but AFC South is wide open, Jage. It is. It is not.
Starting point is 01:27:16 It is, Jage. You guys got a third players only meeting in four days. We're about to have more meetings and you guys have wins. Oh! Calm down. We're on our way. We're on our way. You know Anthony Richardson?
Starting point is 01:27:31 You know who that is? You guys just flipping a coin up there to decide who's going to play quarterback on the week or what's going on? Don't you question how we're doing things here in Indianapolis. Of course, it all seems very amateur, but it's not.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Okay? It's all for a plan. Shane Steichen didn't want AR, especially after the tap-out situation with Hal Latica publicly, to take on Brian Flores' defense. And then the Buffalo Bills' defense. No way. He was trying to save this guy's confidence and also
Starting point is 01:27:54 have a moment where AR can step back, take a breather, and then also say, okay, maybe I do got to move a little bit differently here. Maybe I am fresh with quarterback. And that can happen in two, three weeks. Of course it can. So whatever you're talking about, players-only meetings.
Starting point is 01:28:09 A player had an only meeting with himself, and that was Anthony Richardson, and now everything's about to change. And good luck, Houston. Good luck with those meetings. I like it. I like it. I want to see what the guy's got. Like, let him play through it.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Let him get through it. Hopefully he plays super free now because, like, he knows this is his chance to shine. He knows this is his chance to win this job for good and to be the guy of the future. So I'm really looking forward to it, and I'm hoping that he lets it completely loose and just plays free. I mean, I've seen the stuff coming out this week that, like, everybody's talking about the professionalism questions and things like that. None of those are founded, unfounded, whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:46 But my question in that scenario would be, do you not know any of that throughout the draft process? If you're the general manager, if you're the front office, if you're picking somebody at number four overall, in my personal opinion, you should have done every single bit of research to know inside and out if that's your guide to lead your entire organization for the future. So if there are those issues, which again, i don't know if there are or not but to me that speaks more to the evaluation process than it does to the actual player okay and let's say this last year him getting injured early and then not being in the building there's a lot you know that
Starting point is 01:29:19 potentially gets missed out upon so we're going through a lot of rookie stuff still in this particular his talent level is through the roof. So if we can get everything else, you're talking about one of the most dynamic leaders in the NFL, if he can become that. Hopefully, that is the case. We're certainly wishing for that if we're season ticket holders for the Indianapolis Colts.
Starting point is 01:29:38 And a constant optimist with the Colts. Yeah, you felt good at half of you. Who was that? Alumni, too. good at half. Oh, who's that? Alumni, too. I have been. You have not been a constant optimist?
Starting point is 01:29:50 Last week and a half, maybe differently. But you go check the tape, brother. When I heard they're not working hard, I was like, what are we? What are we? Bad news. We're not working hard? What is that even? I did like when, who was it that said to Kenny Moore, stand by your comments.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Do you believe in them? Like, stand by them? Because that is a big thing with these players-only meetings or whether it's calling out or whatever it is. If you have the stance and you stand by it and you do hold people to that, it's very different than a one-time call-out and then kind of back it down or act like he never said it.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Like, if you truly believe it and you stand by that throughout the day, throughout the week, and you hold people to that standard, that's a very different thing than saying something one time and not backing it up. Defense coordinator Gus Bradley told him to stand by his words, and I think it's because Gus Bradley's like, please. We need somebody.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Robert Mathis, too, I saw. What did he say? He said pretty much the same thing. Like, no, say what you said. If you're a leader and everybody likes you, you're probably not doing it right. So, you know, stand on that. Yeah, and then Quentin Nelson comes out and kind of backs him up. But Quentin Nelson, I think, like, quiet guy.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Not necessarily like a vocal. He's a guard. And it's a corner. Not normally the two guys are being tasked with, like, taking control and speaking of the entire team. Let's go, Colts. You hear what's going on in Houston? Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Okay. We don't know what's going on. What's that? What's that, J.J.? I'm's going on in Houston? Uh-oh. Okay, we don't know what's going on. What's that? What's that, J.J.? I'm just telling you what I'm reading and seeing. Paul Gallant's wondering the same things a lot of people are. Not me. Obviously, I believe in C.J.
Starting point is 01:31:13 But there was a situation on the sideline that makes people wonder some stuff. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, J.J., Debo and Tabor Pepper got into quite a little tizzy on the sideline for the night. Tabor Pepper got into quite a little tizzy on the sideline for the night. Tabor Pepper got into quite a little tizzy on the sideline this weekend. Jake Moody missed a few kicks, and Deebo said, I'm going to choke you, bitch, and kind of hit Moody on the way out as well. What did you think about this?
Starting point is 01:31:37 And I believe Shanahan came out too and said, like, hey, if Deebo is going to hold him accountable, Jake Moody he's talking about, then you got to let him do that, especially as a captain that Debo is. Yeah, no, I mean, I have not seen the throat grab of your own teammate in a while. Trying to remember the last time I've seen it in general. I got nothing else on my head, but wildly entertaining. I specifically remember when it happened. We were in the studio, and I was like, I got nothing else to thought in my head, but wildly entertaining. I specifically remember when it happened, we were in the studio and I was like,
Starting point is 01:32:11 hang on a second, was that his own teammate that he just grabbed his throat? So it was, I don't mind holding your own guys accountable. I mean, I do think that kickers have an insanely tough job and it is extremely clear if they accomplished or did not accomplish their job. So I don't think they necessarily need too many other people to be like, hey, man, do your job. Like theirs is clear. Like if I don't do my job on a play, you might know it, you might not, until you go back and watch the film later.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Kicker is nuts and bolts. Like he either put it through the uprights or he didn't. And nobody knows more than that guy that he just missed it. So I don't know what necessarily you're going to say in that moment. You can tell me better, Pat. What could somebody say to you and be like, oh, you're right. I should be putting it through the pipes. So I've been in this type of situation before
Starting point is 01:32:53 and not where I got my throat grabbed, obviously. But I was cropped. I was cropping today. I was hitting shanks and it was close game. Close game. So I think Peyton actually came up to me and was like, hey, we need one, bub. That was like, and I'm the punter, Peyton's quarterback. So if I had any smartass in me or whatever, I'd just go, we'll get it first down.
Starting point is 01:33:12 But I obviously did not say that. It's Peyton Manning. But Peyton and I had a relationship. Peyton and I were like bolts. So when Peyton would come over and say that, it's like, yeah, Robert Mathis has come up to me before when something happens. He says something to me. And as a punter, I have felt okay going up to guys on the sideline and being like,
Starting point is 01:33:30 hey, hey, all good. Need one. Let's move. I think it all is kind of a tell of your relationship. But does that to you, like if Peyton comes up to you and says, hey, Pat, we need one here. Are you like, oh, okay, I'm going to punt this completely differently. Shoot, Peyton just told me something. No. Or are you like, well, no shit, I'm trying, oh, okay, I'm going to punt this completely differently. Shoot, Peyton just told me something. No.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Or are you like, well, no shit, I'm trying, bud. No, no, I don't take it that way. I think like if you have a relationship with somebody, like I think this is like a more telling of the relationship within the locker room. Because I forget, I forget somebody texted me, old teammate of mine, and said like something. I forget who it was.
Starting point is 01:34:03 It might have been Denzel. I forget who it was. have been uh i forget who somebody said couldn't imagine somebody grabbing you or vinit terry by the neck on the sideline it was like well that would never happen because our relationship with the locker room you know like there would never be a situation where if debo came over to moody debo on the team yeah okay debo very high on the back debo comes over and over and says, like, to Vinny, lock in. Like, Vinny's not going to get offended by that. Like, Vinny's going to be like, yeah, I, like, just kind of take it for what it is. And then Long Snapper's not going to say, you know what?
Starting point is 01:34:33 Debo Samuel, don't you do that. Shut up! That's not going to happen. I think it's more so of, like, you know what I mean? I think that's why, like, it was a yell back. Like, I mean, most of the people, if somebody grabs your throat, that's not going to end without more physical altercation. But I think knowing that your position on the squad
Starting point is 01:34:55 and Debo's position on the squad, that's why it didn't get passed. He kind of had to fake hold me back for a minute. Yeah, Reo. Let me get him. Let me get him. Yeah, like, hang on. Debo, if they're cutting somebody here, I can promise you it's not the guy that scores all touchdowns. Yeah, and, you know, he had a rough week, Pepper. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:35:14 He had a very rough week with everything that happened, and we obviously understand that. But, like, you know, I think that was more telling of the relationship, more so than anything. And also, the reality of the totem pole of this entire situation. I mean, Shanahan's saying that too, after. Like, hey, if Debo's going to tell him, lock in, I think Pepper's overreacting a little bit.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Yeah. Hey, there's a lot of yous. There's a lot of yous. They them got their job. You gotta love it. You got to love it. When the guy that got his throat grabbed, the coach is like, hey, no, you overreacted.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Yeah. Well, and Moody. You were in the rough. It was crazy. I just said Moody gets. I've met Moody. Moody seems like a really cool dude, chill dude. And he knows he's obviously not playing great.
Starting point is 01:36:00 But like somebody coming over to him that he has respect for and his friends was saying like, lock in. I don't think that like ruins his. You i mean it's like it's a young guy right moody yeah third year second year third year but it's like what works better for a specialist is it the guy coming over and saying like hey we need one here or is it the hand around the shoulder like hey man it's okay you got this like we're okay i'm very curious because it's such a specialized position yeah and for me i never was good enough to kick in the nfl so like you know making the field i don't know if i'm necessarily the right guy to be like you know the mental side of this entire thing because that was actually not my mo in it
Starting point is 01:36:32 all but i know like vinny anytime he had a bad day like nobody was talking to him but he's adam you know but if somebody did come over to vinny it would always be like like a nice reminder that he's the goat you know so like a young guy missing three i think you missed three kids yeah yeah in one game that like could and having an older guy come over and be like hey we need one i didn't find it as disrespectful as pepperwood but also it's like i don't think it would ever happen just because the relationship in a locker it's like telling a receiver to catch the ball though it's like a coach a bad coach yelling catch the ball like okay cool i was trying to drop this thing bud like yeah what is the best way to go about it yeah or
Starting point is 01:37:08 what if a guy has like five drops somebody on the team is going to say hey can't happen you would assume some teammate is going to say that so what'd they say to golf like five picks like what did somebody somebody come up to golf hey we are wearing white. Hey. That was one that Coach Kolar used to use all the time, and he always told me about it with Peyton. He's a D-line coach that I had, and he went to Denver. And he was the only one never scared to say anything to Peyton.
Starting point is 01:37:38 So Peyton would be coming out to do it. Hey, hey, hey, Peyton, Peyton, orange jersey, buddy, orange jersey. You can see how that pissed somebody off. What movie is it where they go just a bit outside or something like that? Major League. Bob Uecker. Okay, so miss a field goal. We had a coach at West Virginia where he would scream that across the field if I missed one in practice or whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:00 And I have never just hated a human. We had no shit, okay okay we all saw it but then like after uh like a couple weeks of it it's like uh he's letting me know he's paying attention obviously he's paying attention to what's going on and that i'm better than this is like how you have to like think about it and frame it but i think within a team there's always going to be some shit talking like i think there's always going to be that. MCDC actually went up to Goff and said, hey, you're 6-0 in games. You throw a 4-plus pick. Sif told me.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Sif told me. We all remember that famous clip with Saturday and Peyton on the sideline. Peyton talking to him. Saturday, hey, I know what I'm doing. I'm doing my job. You do this. And then Peyton's like, hey, if I call this, we do this. So conflict, once again, is good.
Starting point is 01:38:45 And if you respect the teammate, if you know that player, especially on game days, is putting in that work throughout the week, especially if it's a vet or center quarterback, like whatever, you're going to respect that. You know, like AJ said, you're not trying to drop a ball. You're not trying to miss a block. You're not trying to miss a kick. So I think it was a little bit of overreaction by all tables.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I'm not saying there's, like like hundreds of long snappers out there that could do an NFL snapper's job. Not easy. Laces. Can't miss. You're gone. But there is a much larger group of people that could do that guy's job than there is that could do Debo's anything.
Starting point is 01:39:20 So that is the reality of the situation as well. And in the moment, you've got to realize that their temper's flared. They'll keep it moving, though. But that big group, them, they can do that job right there. There's only one I, me, and it is him.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Debo Sammy. He is him. So, alright, we'll continue to move along, but I didn't like that specialists were getting into it with teammates on the sideline because that made me think teammates don't have a relationship with specialists. Specialists need to be, listen. Yeah. Specialists are glue guys, man.
Starting point is 01:39:53 They need to be. Especially the long snapper and the punter. The kickers can be too, but I feel like the punter, like Shane Leckler is literally one of my favorite humans ever. All time. He is just the best glue guy. He'll be around the entire locker room talking to any player at any time about anything, no matter where they're from.
Starting point is 01:40:13 He's the best. I love those guys. With a massive chaw in. Just like the biggest. Him and Seabass came up to me in warm-ups whenever we were playing the Raiders. They might have just had one 10 between both of them. And they were asking me what the hell I was doing. I was still punting balls.
Starting point is 01:40:31 And they were like, why are you still punting? I was like, I still got to figure out, because you already hit a ball. Stop punting. You're wasting your time right now. And then obviously, right there. And then Seabass thanked me for getting arrested for public intoxication because I was now the drunk kicker as opposed to him and then we had a full conversation about the program and how to get around he told me go on cruise they're not what are you gonna do test you on cruise go
Starting point is 01:40:53 on cruise thank you so another one and then shane walked away with like you're good dude don't ever forget it and like walked away and i was like mind blown i'm like i hope i get to that point of life sometime because right now I am about to shit my pants because I'm about to shank four. Shane was like coolest dude. I couldn't even imagine being his teammate. They need to put his ass in the Hall of Fame. He needs to go. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. How is he not in the
Starting point is 01:41:16 Hall of Fame? He needs to be in the Hall of Fame. I'll do whatever it takes. Shane Leckler should be in the Hall of Fame. Agreed. First guy that I experienced that also had like beer for the trip home for the other specialists. Like, hey, whenever you're heading out of here, here's a case of beer for you guys.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Here's some food for you guys from here. It's like this guy's the coolest guy of all time. And then now he's just either pitching fast pitch softball to his daughters or he's out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico fishing for whatever the hell he's fishing. He's got big poles. What is he fishing for?
Starting point is 01:41:48 What is it? That's it. I have no idea. He's like, come on out, man. I'm like, you're out there. He goes out there, out there. Wait, with big poles. We're talking big fishing poles. I've FaceTimed him at the time, and he's wide open on his thing. Head now, buddy. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Obviously, just a huge, I couldn't even, just a huge thing and then he's got like four fishing poles off the back massive i'm like what are you and obviously we lose service what is he going to catch out there is he is it a whale what i've never i could something he'll go out there for like a few hours at a time sometimes sometimes a few days, and you're like, hey, man, you're out there solo. Like, is everything connected up top? Are you good to go? Because you're by yourself, man.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Way out there. He shows up. He comes back rolling in with a bill of light a couple days later, and there he is. Would love to see Shane have to swim that back. He'd do it. Yeah. Be nuts.
Starting point is 01:42:41 One year, it was like year 18 for him, and they asked him to do the conditioning test and he had never done one in his entire career and he was like no it was like the coach was like no everybody does it literally everybody does it and so him and will fork looked at each other like he doesn't mean everybody everybody right it was everybody and this is two days before the test so not like he could train or anything so he had to do 16 half gassers for the test and he had to be as close to dying as he's ever been how about will fork how'd vince do probably the same probably the same they both made it it was one of those generous calls where it was like 17 18 19 just in time 17, 18, 19.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Just in time. Good job. Everybody made it. Everybody made it. I'll tell you what. Was that when you thought about fighting the coach there? Is that when that whole thing started? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Is that a... It was a similar time frame, I think. It's a fuzzy memory, but it was a similar time frame. Yeah, I mean, Shane Leckler probably thought that a few times. What a wee. What's the hardest conditioning test you ever had? College was stupid. Everybody. College was stupid. We had the 110s, obviously. 110s with the 5ths and
Starting point is 01:43:52 the 40s and then what was the shuttle one? I got introduced to that in Indianapolis. 300-yard shuttle? 50-yard shuttle? Any time you stop, more times you got to stop and start, that's the worst. Yeah, I could do 110-10s all day. That's easy, stride out, get out, stride.
Starting point is 01:44:08 But anytime you got to touch and go back, 25, like, anything touching going back is tough. So, like, 300-yard shuttle, 50-yard increment is tough. Learned that one at Indianapolis. That was tough. I did not enjoy that one because you're right. Once the train gets rolling, let's go ahead and keep it going. Stop it coming back. And those yards add up.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Oh, yeah. How far did I just run? Two and a half football fields? Holy shit. You got ten more? On whose watch? What are we preparing for? Is that what you guys did in Green Bay? Did you have a conditioning test? Yeah, we did
Starting point is 01:44:35 early on. In college, we ran 20 half gassers. It was a monster. College is stupid. College was tough. We ran, I think, like 12 or 14 halves when we were first in Green Bay, and then it kind of changed up to more like position-specific stuff that was way better. So the first regime, Bill Polian, Coach Caldwell, Payton, Payton and them,
Starting point is 01:44:57 we didn't have a conditioning test because it was a very veteran team. It was like. Sounds like there's not one now either. Oh, swing. Damn. Swing. veteran team it was like sounds like there's not one now either oh swing damn swing there was off-season conditioning and there was accountability okay yeah but it was a very veteran crew so everybody was like hey we're in shape we're not wasting thousands of yards in Sprints here before training camp even starts here everybody's expected to be in but that team was literally together for like 12 years seemingly at that point so then when chuck gets in and there's now conditioning tests that was my first time since college having to do it watching some
Starting point is 01:45:33 of these dudes not be in shape for the conditioning test was mind-blowing mind but and they're like is it not crazy yeah that the day before you start training camp practice you're like all, all right, we're going to put you through the hardest thing you're going to do the entire year. And then tomorrow, let's go to practice. Like, it's nuts. We had a rule, I think, where you weren't allowed to practice until you passed. You couldn't practice until you passed. Same with Bill.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Oh, yeah, everywhere. Yeah, most places. So this dude's running it every day. You think he's going to get better? No. He's never going to pass it. Day four, I'm like, this guy's getting worse, right? During You think he's going to get better? No. He's never going to pass it. Day four, I'm like, this guy's getting worse.
Starting point is 01:46:07 During practice, he's conditioned. During practice, he's on the bike or some shit. This dude was a great special teamer. I was paying attention closely to the entire situation. If he's not in shape, what else? This is just like an
Starting point is 01:46:23 indicator of everything else, Pat. I'm like, I know he doesn't care where the football is, and I know he will put his head down and run through absolutely anybody. So can we at least set this up for him to pass it at some point? I would like him to at least know where he's trying to go. Got to pass the test. It's like, did he get better today? No, he got slower today.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Actually, he failed it worse. It's like, yeah. He's not going to pass it. I assume that's going to happen. Be a pro. Be a pro. Whatever you got to do to figure it out, you got to figure it out. If you're a coach of a football team, NFL team, and you have split,
Starting point is 01:46:53 half young, half vets, okay, somehow, are you having conditioning tests before training camp, and how hard is it? It wouldn't be too hard. I don't think conditioning – most of them aren't that hard, especially in the NFL, so I'm having to condition it. It's not,'s not like extremely difficult, though. It's just a C. Yeah, right. Twelve, fourteen,
Starting point is 01:47:10 like one tens, something like that, just to show that you win. You can run. You win. And it's also to show the rest of the team that you're in shape. And then, you know, also, you don't want those assholes who run the first eight at 60 percent in the last four there, you know, but like, yeah, something that everybody can can handle. Thank you. You're doing the same thing. But yeah, something that everybody can handle.
Starting point is 01:47:25 AQ, you're doing the same thing? I would do enough to break a sweat. Something that we did in the spring, probably like two sets of eight 50s. Something easy. And then you guys are getting a very, offensive linemen get a very easy time? Yeah, make it 10 seconds.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Here we go. We need to see you roll. We're going to break a sweat. 50 yards instead of the X. I just want to get a sweat. That's it. Jade, you're running a conditioning test. How hard is it going to be?
Starting point is 01:47:52 Mine would be purely to get a visual on who is not in shape so that I know I'm not going to ruin them in practice. You do need to do something because you haven't seen these guys in six weeks. So I just got to see who I can't run into the ground. That's all. AJ? I would do something, but I haven't split up with positions. Like, I'm not having D linemen run half gassers.
Starting point is 01:48:14 They may do, like, 20-yard sprints and do 20 of them, something like that. Steelers had Russ pushing the sled for theirs, and that's how the calf popped up. So, I mean. That was by choice. I mean, he's got to be ready for that though. Oh, yeah. You know, dangerous Wilson. Just in case. Yeah, you never know. You never know. You never know.
Starting point is 01:48:31 That sled push is going to come up. Ty Schmidt has a question for you, Jage. Jage, when you look at the current playoff picture for both the AFC and the NFC, obviously in the NFC pretty competitive all the way 1-7. AFC a little bit more wide open. Are there any teams right now that are kind of in the NFC. Obviously in the NFC, pretty competitive all the way, one through seven. AFC a little bit more wide open. Are there any teams right now that are kind of on the outside looking in that you think could make a run? Or are there any teams currently in that that you
Starting point is 01:48:55 think are going to ultimately kind of go on a little slump here and we're going to see someone else? You know, Tampa is such an interesting team because like the beginning of the season, they started out winning games, but not necessarily playing their best ball, especially on offense. I think it was like 24 points a game that they were averaging on offense. Now they're averaging, this last game wasn't their best, but they were averaging like 33 points a game. So you'd be like, oh, they're playing better. But their defense has just gone downhill ever since the start of the season. So Baker's been playing lights outout ball most of the year.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Again, this last game wasn't his best game. But their record could be completely different right now if they had just played a little bit better defense for a little while. The thing about the AFC that I look at and is interesting to me is those top six teams are 94% or above locked into the playoffs. That's crazy. So that means we're basically all trying to fight for one spot here. And I've never seen this many teams with one, two percent or less
Starting point is 01:49:54 at this point in the season already. It feels like it's already shaking itself out pretty clearly. And some of those 94% aren't actually 94%, you know? That's in a database and algorithm, not in real life. Like Texans, 94.4%. Okay, then you got the Colts right there at 26.5%. Sure. But do they know that Anthony Richardson's starting this weekend?
Starting point is 01:50:15 I doubt it. I doubt it. Do these stats know that the Indianapolis Colts are now a professional culture behind closed doors? No, they don't. So it's much more wide open than these numbers say, but, yeah, it does look like it is a one-slip. Are you just back on board now?
Starting point is 01:50:32 Are you just fully back on board? Is this just going to hop back on? Was it the tooth? Was it the tooth? Was that what the problem was? You were angry because your tooth hurt? So you're tough on the Colts, and now the tooth is out, you feel good? You're like, hey, I'm a Colt again.
Starting point is 01:50:48 I didn't think about that possibility. I mean, halftime of Bill's Colts, Pat looked at us and he was like, we're about to go on a run and win this shit. Talking about the Bill's game. And we did not, but there was a couple plays there that really gave you some hope, which is kind of how it is. But whenever, you know, as somebody that's been very lucky to be in a building that has gone to the Super Bowl and has earned a number one overall pick as well,
Starting point is 01:51:10 you know, there's some things that teams that suck do, and then there's some teams that win do. So whenever I hear some things that are happening with the suck teams, it's like I get bummed out about it. But they can fix that, and we're all the way back. That's right. Speaking of, we'll be back. Be a friend, tell a friend.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Appreciate you, ESPN. Thank you. Be a friend, tell a friend what? Yeah, tell a friend. you thank you be a friend tell a friend what yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know i just said i just said what came to my head i just said it i know it's be a friend tell a friend what do you tell him something nice oh i missed it forced it he was good though it was really good he missed the he missed the throw last week you remember yep oh yeah yeah and then he stole i was so proud i saw the countdown i did have a good one coming but i connor you're on time out you don't even know the statistics of the nfl so you're on time that's fair that's fair you know to be clear though you mentioned the stat earlier in the day in the Thunderdome, I think at one point.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And there was a resounding, wow. That's crazy. So, now, as it's happening in the moment. Did I expect Rodgers to bring that stat? No. But I was going to stand on a box for him, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Anyway, everybody says everything you say is not right. This one. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. Definitely. Yes. It was so emphatic and immediate, too. It wasn't like, I'll double check it.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Yep. The Jets, though, don't look now. That's another team with a high percentage. Did you hear what they did yesterday, Coach Brick? Great practice. They've been having good practices. He did a tackling presentation for the entire team at the morning team meeting
Starting point is 01:52:50 and they've been focusing on tackling. Now, the way I assumed this went was he said, I know we're all professionals. I know we've all played football a long time, but sometimes it's nice to be reminded on what we're looking to do,
Starting point is 01:53:05 fundamentally, whenever we're tackling people. And then he goes through an entire thing. And then how is that received, do you think? You two, obviously, some of the greatest defensive football players that have ever played. We'll start with you, Jage. How do you think this goes over? Why do you think he felt the need to do this? And does this mean the Colts are definitely winning this weekend against the New York football Jets?
Starting point is 01:53:24 For me, it depends on where the locker room is out right now I mean if there is still hope and belief in that locker room you like this because I think this is how you get better at football by playing football by tackling by working on things by actually going out there and you can't be buddy buddy in every single day especially on Wednesdays and Thursdays those are the big days to get real legitimate work done, and the fundamentals are clearly something that they've been struggling
Starting point is 01:53:48 with a little bit. So if that locker room does believe in their future this season, they like this. If they have checked out and they've decided, ah, it's not happening, this year we're not going, then you absolutely hate this, and guys are going to pout about it, and they're not going to go,
Starting point is 01:54:03 they're not going to be bought in. aj are you accurate there is you completely different no i think you're i think you're pretty accurate i think it depends on how they feel about brick i think that's the biggest thing like what's his relationship like with the team and i i'm biased because i know brick and i think he's an awesome coach i think he's actually an old school tough guy but with like uh you know he's not scared to evolve and everything. So I'm sure the players that love him, which it sounds like he still has a team and they all still love him, they're okay with it.
Starting point is 01:54:31 They're not excited. You're probably not pumped about putting full pads on this late in the season, probably be tackling to the ground a little bit. But I would imagine if Brick put a tackling presentation on, it was actually pretty entertaining and actually pretty good, and it wasn't some just rinky-dink garbage intern thing that got thrown together. Yeah, he didn't mail it in. Obviously, we know that isn't Coach Brick football.
Starting point is 01:54:50 AQ is looking in disgust. What is your problem? Because I've been a part of this on the other side of the ball. We haven't run the ball well in the last four weeks. It's like, we're going to put pads on. We're going to do nine on seven for 15 plays. We go out and run for 32 yards. Putting the pads on Wednesday and Thursday,
Starting point is 01:55:05 it's not going to correlate to what happens on Sunday. What are you talking about? What does this guy even talk about? This is all coach speak. It sounds great, but I've had terrible weeks of practice and went out and put 50 points up on offense, and I've had great weeks of practice and got shut out. So nothing matters.
Starting point is 01:55:20 No, I'm not saying it doesn't. So I bought a lottery ticket and it hits. I mean, you sound like a middle school coach right now. Like, that's what it sounds like. Yeah, but does it sound great? You coach in middle school football, JJ? Does it help that we actually – So what do you want to do?
Starting point is 01:55:32 What do you want to do? Just say, hey, guys, no practice, no pads, no nothing. I'm not saying – I think we're going to be good this week. I'm not saying – but I'm just saying it's not going to – this one day of putting the pads on and tackling to the ground isn't going to make them tackle better on Sunday, I promise you. What?
Starting point is 01:55:44 So don't try. So don. What? So don't try. So don't try. So don't try. Don't try and get better. It has nothing to do with trying to get better. You can get better without pads on. You're going to tell me you don't get better without pads on? Because I think you can get better with pads on playing football.
Starting point is 01:55:57 I think you can work on a double team a whole lot better wearing pads either in a pods or a nine-on-seven or a full team segment than you do in spiders. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, shit. And how do you tackle if you don't have pads on? How do you go all the way to the ground?
Starting point is 01:56:12 Yeah. How do you go all the way to the ground? You think they're going to tackle all the way to the ground in week 12? All the way to the ground. Coach Briggs. I mean, in the meantime. They are tackling all the way to the ground in the game, so they better do it somewhere. That's right.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Yeah. How many times did you tackle all the way to the ground in a practice in the NFL, JJ? Not many. There you go. You made plenty of tackles. You know who does a lot? The Steelers. They do it all the time. Every week. In practice? Every week, brother. Tackle to the ground?
Starting point is 01:56:37 To the ground. In season? After training camp? I never know. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's just expectation, yeah. Yeah, we got to learn how to get tackled too. We got to learn how to get tackled around here. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:56:52 What the hell? It will make you better. Like, it definitely can help you. You definitely will become a better tackler, but like the risk-reward. Like, how many guys will you lose from possibly doing that? What are your thoughts on it all, D-Bud? I mean, once again, you got to know your team and him being thrust into that interim spot.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Tackling drills, you head coach up there. I'm just trying to visualize it. Week 11, you're probably up there tackling an intern or a quality control guy. All right, stand over here. Listen, I'm just reminding you of what you've already learned. Sometimes it's nice to be refreshed a little bit. Sometimes it's nice to be refreshed a little bit. Sometimes it's nice to be refreshed a little bit.
Starting point is 01:57:27 So we're going to go, boom, see that? Head in the front. Head in the front, arm around, secure the tackle. We're not trying to get the ball every time. But he seems like a guy that can relate to his guys. And there's some veteran guys in there. So it's about how they respond, how they go out and practice. Just like with Mayo and his young team.
Starting point is 01:57:41 They responded to him calling him out in the public. Now, how do they respond to what's going on with their coach being hands-on and actually showing him? Obviously, it comes down to the fundamentals, tackling, blocking. It always comes down to those foundational things. I know Bill Belichick, we always opened up practice with open field tackling drills, not to the ground, but just closing ground, closing space, getting a good tag off or a thud.
Starting point is 01:58:03 You know, we don't tackle really as pros outside of sundays you know outside of pittsburgh once again i never heard of that maybe some short yardage goal line periods in training camp but outside of that you're tackling the best athletes in the world to the ground only on sunday so it is tough i mean it's a it's a whole culture thing too because when you show up to the building now on whatever they do that they're doing at wednesday or thursday when you show up you show up to the building now on whatever they're doing at Wednesday or Thursday, when you show up, you show up to the building with a completely different mindset knowing you're going full pads and tackling. So it does set a different tone in your building. You have to come in with a different mindset, which then speaks to the culture of the whole organization.
Starting point is 01:58:37 You hope that that carries through throughout game day, throughout the next weeks. New CBA, only 14 full padded practices throughout the season. So I think that is to give some of these teams a break at the end of the year. Because I think back in the day there was known coaches that were like, no, yeah, we're doing pads. And it cuts off at a certain point. I don't know if it's week 11 or week 14, but I think it cuts off at a certain point where you can't wear pads. Where you can't wear pads.
Starting point is 01:59:01 What's that? We wore full pads. Playoffs at recess. I think Colts did too when we Super Bowl. Playoffs at recess. I think Colts did, too, when we were there. Playoffs at recess. I think Peyton wore pads. To throw every time? I think.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Well, yeah. A lot of quarterbacks do. You can do 11 in the first 11 weeks, and then the final six weeks, you can only do three. Oh, so you can choose any of those? Oh, man. You're on your way out. No, it's your last year.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Mike McCarthy. Yeah. Last three weeks. Yeah. Here we go. All right, boys. We're on your way out. No, it's your last year. Mike McCarthy. Yeah. Last three weeks. Yeah. Here we go. All right, boys. We're going full pads.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Yeah. Welcome to Thursday. Welcome to Thursday. And next Thursday, guess what? Welcome to Thunderdome yet again. And in my last week practicing here as a coach, Friday we're doing it. Closer to game, less time for you guys to recover. It's been a fun little time, hasn't it?
Starting point is 01:59:46 There's so many storylines. AQ just doing it. Closer to game, less time for you guys to recover. It's been a fun little time, hasn't it? There's so many storylines. AQ just hates it. AQ just hates it because then in pass rush one-on-ones, if there's no pads, you already know there's no bull rush. So you just step back a little quicker, a little deeper. So you just worry about the speed rush, and you know we can't run through you. No pads. Let's just get get-offs, boys, huh? Let's just do the get-offs.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Exactly. What do you think? One step? One step and finish? All right, here we go. Quick whistle. Quick get-offs, boys, huh? Let's just do the get-offs. What do you think? One step? One step and finish? All right, here we go. Quick whistle. Quick whistle. Yeah, quick whistle.
Starting point is 02:00:09 I enjoy the thought that the old-school mentality is they need more practices, more practices, more practices, more practices, more time on task, you know? And it seems like how people spend their time, you still have the capability to get all the physicality in that you want. It's just how do you decide to spend your time? So it's like is the, I don't want to say the bitching, but is it misguided almost? Is there still enough time to get the fundamental work in
Starting point is 02:00:33 while doing everything else? Some teams seemingly have it figured out. Some teams don't. I wonder how many more teams will be able to figure it out or how many more teams are going to become just a dumpster fire. Yeah, I mean, look at the Chiefs. We hear about Andy Reid how tough all of those practices
Starting point is 02:00:48 are regardless. It isn't at this point in the season, week 11, they throw in the pads on it. Isn't it a little late to try to just reset your culture? How does Harbaugh do it, I wonder? He probably puts the pad in every day. Did you see I mic'd up of him earlier?
Starting point is 02:01:05 With Herbert before the game? Dude, before the game, during the game, there's a moment in the game where he comes up to Herbert and he goes, I just want to run it. And Herbert goes, me too. And then they go back to a group and he goes, act like you're drawing up a pass play. Act like you're drawing up a pass play.
Starting point is 02:01:22 And then Herbert's like, well, I can go to the other side. He goes, yes, yes. Because there's people watching from the other side. And he Herbert's like, well, I can go to the other side. He goes, yes, yes. Because there's people watching from the other side. And he goes, oh, do the other hand. Do the other hand. He goes, or this side. Yes. Both sides.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Yes. And then both sides. Yeah. Like, just in the middle of the game to have that interaction with Herbert. And then Herbert does what he does on the play. And he's like, beast. Absolute beast. It's like, Herbert has to watch all these things.
Starting point is 02:01:42 I assume he's a little uncomfortable in different moments. You know, in front of everybody when the coach is just constantly. Jim wants him to stop one of those times when he's running off after a touchdown and he's celebrating. Oh, my God. He's crazy looking at him. And then Herbert is awesome. He just goes right by him as he passes him in the back.
Starting point is 02:01:57 Yeah. This guy's so funny. Love that guy. We'll just call you Beast. You're right. I'm just calling him Beast. I'm just calling him. And he told everybody.
Starting point is 02:02:05 New nickname. New nickname. New nickname. And then he comes. He was talking to the Beast. I'm just calling him Beast. I'm just calling him and told everybody. New nickname, new nickname. New nickname. Yeah, he was talking to the ref. He was telling the ref his nickname. How about his hands? Talking about his hands. This guy's hands. You guys got it right on that one.
Starting point is 02:02:13 When you're reffing this Justin Herbert, you need to talk about something that ain't from here. So let's do it a little differently. God, I love it. Good for the Chargers. Dude, but that's the type of quirkiness and like the type of guy
Starting point is 02:02:23 that as it goes and as you win, like, you're just more and more into it. And you're like, yeah, we'll all high-five the shit out of each other. Yeah, let's high-five. But his first ever high-five, he was playing for the Ann Arbor Little Packers. Yep. I was nine years old. I'll never forget it. I made my first tackle, and then I got my first high-five.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Whoa. Yeah. I mean, how about the invention of the high-five? He told, like, his recall in his story And then him saying, guilty as charged Everything goes back to football for me It's just like this guy He was supposed to be a football coach
Starting point is 02:02:53 And the Chargers have him And he's in our ring of honor here in Indianapolis Yeah, what a mess I love Coach Steichen, but Man Screwed that up Everybody's relaxed We still got everything in front of us No, I know What a miss. I love Coach Steichen, but man. Screwed that up. Everybody's relaxed.
Starting point is 02:03:09 We still got everything in front of us. I know you do. That's the interesting thing about Indianapolis also is everybody does seem to love Steichen. It doesn't seem like anybody has a real issue with him. There's some Coach stinking tweets that come in on Mondays.
Starting point is 02:03:26 On Mondays. Everybody right now in Colts World is basically mad at me and front office. Yeah, Ballard. And front office. Lombo's been killing Steichen quite a bit. What's that all about? It's time. I said, listen, I think he's a terrific play caller.
Starting point is 02:03:41 He's a fucking horrible head coach. That's what Lombo said? Yeah, he said it multiple times the last two weeks. I can't wait to ask him about that tomorrow. We're going through a similar thing in Houston right now. Like last year, Bobby Slowick, everybody is 100% on him saying he should be assistant coach of the year, saying we're so grateful and thankful that he just decided not to do head coaching interviews everywhere else. And now everybody all of a sudden turns on him immediately halfway through
Starting point is 02:04:06 his second year. And it's like, all right, like it's just crazy how fast we go from love to hate to love to hate. Age. How many balls did that one fan tell slow it to suck? I believe two, both of them,
Starting point is 02:04:18 both balls. Yeah. Respectfully. Respectfully. Of course. What a great tweet. That was, that's reminded me
Starting point is 02:04:26 that had to be near the edge of like where you're going on television and where you're not like that had to be oh buddy pushing the limits there oh i don't know i would like to let everybody know we really care and think about that if we don't you know i don't't i don't okay i'd love to see that written up in a complaint i love that i love that talking toilet uh clogging toilets has just become part of the national conversation on a weekly basis now that's that's great coach rizzy walking up to us i'll actually tell you guys this i wasn't going to unless we won but as soon as my day started i came into the superdome i love love this place. Took a massive shit. I mean, big, stinky shit.
Starting point is 02:05:10 And clogged the toilet, actually, here in the Superdome. I thought, man, what a crappy start to a day. He said, the universe is telling me it's going to be a crappy day. No, it's not. We won. And then I had a stroke afterwards. Holy fuck. I mean, I love.
Starting point is 02:05:20 That was the best. I fucking love Darren Rizzi. I would like him to win. This is just like, this is a football guy. It feels like his team is all in behind him and everything. But, yeah, we did ask him if he rolled up his sleeves, like you suggested, to unclog it. We never got an answer from him.
Starting point is 02:05:35 Never got an answer. So you don't know what happened? He never said what he did? He didn't do it. I don't think we got an answer. You know, that's the head coach's office. He didn't say it. So it's not like there's any question about we got it. I don't think we got it. You know, like, that's the head coach's office. He didn't say it. So it's not like there's any question about who did it. There's one person that takes a dump in there.
Starting point is 02:05:51 So that's just being left for the cleaning people. Even if, like, because there's no plunger. It's the Superdome. There's no plunger in there. Like, you just, you got to feel bad walking away from that. You got to be like, I got to get out the warm-ups. Do a little post. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:06:08 You could leave a little note. Do your job. Was it cleaned up by the time he got back in from warm-ups? For his post-warm-up dump, I don't know if he had clean waters. We don't know. We'll ask him next week after they win again. I think that team's destined for greatness. And we appreciate his friendship.
Starting point is 02:06:28 He's going to have to go back to the drawing board, I think, with a kickoff. That's for a conversation for another day. Sure. I think that kickoff's going to get changed again, I think, just if you're reading tea leaves and listening to people talk a little bit. We just got touchbacks now. What's going to change about it? 35?
Starting point is 02:06:43 I think they're going to have to punish the touchback a little bit more. Like it was supposed to be 35 whenever it was pitched, and then somehow it got changed to 30, and then it just got okayed. And then some people that, you know, understand how specialist teams coaches think and how head coaches think in the risk-reward situation, the percentage of scoring from 25 to 30, not that. 25 to 35, though, you're giving up a full first down. You're basically putting – that is a big jump.
Starting point is 02:07:10 So those five yards, I think in the conversation, we're like, that's 15 feet. What do we even – it's five. It won't be a big deal. It's like, well, there's stats. There's a lot of things, and it's a full first down from what it was last year. Instead, it's just now it's second and five. So it's like the whole mindset behind it,
Starting point is 02:07:28 I didn't think was fully appreciated that the 35 was an actual punishment and you could maybe get some returns in the entirety of it all. 30, not a big enough punishment, I don't think. And they took advantage of it. Now we just got weird looking touch bats, which I don't know, somebody said that was probably,
Starting point is 02:07:43 but it's just the way it goes. You know, it's just the way it goes. It's just the way it goes, James. Hopefully they change it because we don't need to be taking away special teams, especially because we got blocks winning games. And they give us great content on the sidelines. We can't lose that. Amen. That was
Starting point is 02:07:59 Debo's content, I think, is how we would describe that. That's not specialist content. Include. Every, everybody needs an antagonist. Every hero needs an antagonist. Well, how about this? Not the penguin. Do you die a hero or do you live long enough to see yourself become the villain?
Starting point is 02:08:24 Heavy, heavy stuff. Yeah. that Joker from this it sucked yeah worst movie of all time and musical art was a musical Joaquin Phoenix try to tell us he said that was the worst movie I've ever seen but it's standard vision yeah about his own movie Oh like 12 minutes standing hose over there this is so uncomfortable is that like their workout for the day, you think? Maybe. Okay. Maybe they view it as like getting their steps in. Over where? Con.
Starting point is 02:08:52 At those film festivals. Venice. How do you even do it? 12 minutes. No way. 12 minutes. Oh, yeah. That's stupid. That's stupid. Inglourious Bastards, when that came out, got like a 22-minute standing ovation. How's that work? What? So every couple minutes minutes you just find something new to re-energize your clapping they just love film over there brother you got to remember everything you want to clap for come on
Starting point is 02:09:12 and then it's like a checklist oh so you're done everybody's got to be looking for the intro now i will say as somebody that was part of a two and a half minute standing ovation it made sense i i thought that thing should have continued for another few minutes for Taylor. Yeah. Guillermo del Toro has held the untouchable record in 2006 of a 22 minute standing ovation
Starting point is 02:09:35 with Pan's Labyrinth. I just watched that actually. It's freaky. Pan's Labyrinth, obviously. That's one of those movies that people talk about saying we should watch that one. Great movie. It's crazy. What's it about?
Starting point is 02:09:48 I'm sitting halfway through. I did not have to. I'm trying to get out. I'm trying to get out of the walk. I'm sitting three minutes in. I'm doing one of these. Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 02:09:59 Fuck yeah! Hell yeah! Fuck yeah! Exactly. Boom. I mean, we just experienced one with Taylor Swift. Yeah. Exactly Boom I mean we just experienced One with Taylor Swift Yeah
Starting point is 02:10:09 That one does Diverve a little bit How long is the one At the end of the facility Every day It's not 22 minutes Hell yeah man We're still doing it
Starting point is 02:10:19 Is it really Gump Is it really one at the end Okay I don't think there is AJ I think gumpy was making that up like sieve did to connor but yeah i'm getting out of that room as much as possible but i'm showing more energy while i'm on my way out so when people see me they think okay he does have respect he just has an active bladder sure you know so that that's what i'm doing is it like
Starting point is 02:10:39 a kim jong-un thing where you have to clap or you know you get blackballed they'll fucking boo too so where over there oh yeah do they really joker got a 12 minute they said it's the worst movie jangoon thing where you have to clap or you know you get blackballed they'll boo too so where are they oh yeah do they really joker got a 12 minute they said it's the worst movie of all time for them no but they'll they'll boo if it's shitty they'll boo probably good movies probably yeah what is the longest boo oh boohoo vinnie chase medellin they booed him like crazy passion project too yeah that's That's a passion project too That's bullshit though What a great show man
Starting point is 02:11:06 What a freaking great show Alright let's get to a break Ladies and gentlemen JJ Thank you JJ JJ JJ Keep showing JJ JJ
Starting point is 02:11:22 Way to go, JJ! All right, JJ! You earned it, JJ. What a performance. Wow. Way to go, J. Woo! Woo! Yeah! Way to go!
Starting point is 02:11:41 Hammered downtown! I'm laughing for you, wow. This guy, holy shit, what a show. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, JJ. JJ what? JJ what?
Starting point is 02:11:56 JJ what? JJ, wow, this guy, JJ's dead. JJ's dead. Thanks for, thanks for, with JJ's mom! JJ's mom! JJ's mom to create JJ What! JJ What! Way to go, JJ! Alright, how much time was that? Was that one minute right there? Not even. Oh my god! 22 of them? Crazy. 22 more. All right. See you, J.J. All right. You got enough. J.J.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Thank you, man. Thank you, buddy. Wow. Fuck that. That was less than a minute. Yeah. We showed him no respect in the grand scheme of things. Wow.
Starting point is 02:12:38 But that's a good point. Like, if Joker 2 got a 10-minute stand-in or whatever, and that's considered the worst movie of all time, what are we talking about then? we're gonna have to get over there and judge this for ourselves yeah show them the way how do you get tickets into these things can we get buying tickets to this oh yeah maybe we buy up a whole row we should go to con maybe we are the ones up in the front that set the tone there you go you know i've been a part of a sit down in the front of the theater and everybody else is doing a standing O And you don't look back and you don't know and then oh shit. Oh boy We gotta get up quickly We look real bad here being the row that stops the standing O because that thing sometimes coming in from the back
Starting point is 02:13:17 But if you're up in the front you kind of lead that you know do the I was first And we're down Now, okay, that's good news. Well control I was first. And we're down. And we're down now. Okay, that's good news. A lot of control. I bet that happens at con, where people will sit down, no one else does. It's like, fuck, we're back at it. Hello, beautiful people.
Starting point is 02:13:42 And right up here. Welcome back to Up on the to the Thunderdome. On this Wednesday, November 13th, Hour 3 of the program starts now. Football! It's normally the topic of discussion. That is A.J. Hawk. He's in an attic in Ohio. Obviously, the boys are here from the Toxic Table at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 02:14:01 Sweet mullet on your head right now. Hey, thank you very much. You know, we're in company of somebody that really respects a good mullet, and that's maybe the greatest I've ever seen. I've heard that it is. One half of the Hammer Cowboys AP. Tony's over in Hammer. And nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here and joining us, ladies and gentlemen, the WWE Women's World champion the crown jewel champion hell yeah thank you
Starting point is 02:14:31 that is live ladies and gentlemen live has the ring on right now from the crown jewel i always have it on yeah it looks sweet it's perfect i used to have all rings on my fingers but now i only have this one because it's the only one that matters okay so you will wear that every day every day it goes with anything yeah it's diamonds and it's the only one that matters. Okay, so you wear that every day? Every day. It goes with anything? Yeah, it's diamonds. And it's the first ever, right? The first ever, the only one history made. Well, Cody Rhodes has one as well. It did not fit on his finger,
Starting point is 02:14:54 right? Yeah, so it doesn't count. Yeah, his doesn't count. You're obviously one of one there. Women's champion. Today, you're in Indianapolis. You've gone to the local NBC. You've gone to CW. You talked to the newspaper, all talking about Royal Rumble pre-sale tickets on sale right now. How's it been all morning, and what are your thoughts on it?
Starting point is 02:15:11 It's been a good morning. It's been a busy morning, but everyone seems super excited that, you know, we're going to have the Royal Rumble here, then tonight's SummerSlam, tonight's WrestleMania, the start of a nice partnership here in Indy. Indianapolis is a hospitality city. Obviously, we have the Indy 500 every single year which is the largest sporting event in the world every single year. We had the US Olympic trials here. We obviously have the Big Ten championship here. National championship here. NBA All-Star. I think WNBA All-Star. About time. What's that? That we came here. Bingo!
Starting point is 02:15:38 Believe me I've been behind the scenes. Is this your doing? Certainly pined the drum. I think there's a chance that I helped, but I think I have been singing the praises of this city to a lot of people who potentially make those decisions for a while, and they're obviously the ones that are doing it and putting WWE in a great spot, but this city is very accessible from Chicago, St. Louis,
Starting point is 02:16:00 Louisville, Ohio, Detroit, like everywhere. Royal Rumble is going to be insane. Every year it is. What are the stories you've been talking about with the Royal Rumble and why have you been telling people that the Royal Rumble is the one that they need to come see especially here in India? The Royal Rumble is one of our big four. It's the most unpredictable. I feel like to me it's
Starting point is 02:16:16 the most fun too. You don't know who you're going to run into. You don't know who you're going to see. Whether it's legends of the past, superstars of the future, your favorite superstar currently. You don't know who's going to enter the Royal Rumble. You don't know who's going to enter the Royal Rumble. You don't know who's going to win the Royal Rumble. I'm not going to enter the Royal Rumble this year because I'm going to walk in the Women's Royal Champion.
Starting point is 02:16:31 That's right. Earn that. Yeah. You earn that. I've been in every single one, too. So I'm actually like, oh. How many Royal Rumbles have you been in? Six.
Starting point is 02:16:39 Wow. Okay, so you'll be missing this one because everybody, all 30 women that will be competing in the Royal Rumble will be trying to get an opportunity at your title. If they choose me, if they choose me, they have, they could pick a champion of their choice. So if they choose me, I don't think they would because it's not very smart to choose me. I mean, have you been watching, Pat, Raquel, Judgment Day, Daddy Don?
Starting point is 02:17:01 I don't know who's going to want to take their chance against me. Daddy Dom. What? I don't know who's going to want to take their chance against me. Okay, so you're saying somebody's going to win the Royal Rumble and then not choose to fight you because they'd be scared to waste the opportunity. Yeah. Because of what you're doing right now. Yeah, the Judgment Day, the most dominant faction.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Does Dom still exist over there? Of course. Daddy Dom, yeah. Yeah. So you guys aren't as good as you could be. We all understand that. We all very much understand that. What's your beef with Dominic?
Starting point is 02:17:24 The guy sucks. Oh, my God. You know that, though. You know that. Hot, very much understand that. What's your beef with Dominic? The guy sucks. Oh, my God. You know that, though. You know that. Pat, Pat, please, please, please, please, please, please, please. This is how this goes. The greatest mullet of all time, I'm sorry, is Dominic. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 02:17:35 She's like the hardest working man in WWE. That's why he's not here today, because we had to give him a day off. Oh, okay. He's so hardworking. He's so hardworking. Of course. That makes sense, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of things we go in about Dominic,
Starting point is 02:17:45 how disgusting he is, the way he talks. Stop, stop, stop, stop. People think you're potentially blinded by that ring that you have. You can't see what everybody else can see. This is new. Dominic and I have been like three months strong. This is new. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 02:17:57 You still giving him tendies? Every day. Guy loves tendies. That's the most relatable thing that I think I've ever seen. Conman has a question for you, Liam. Speaking of the ring, how was the Saudi experience? Obviously, you came out on top, so who cares? Nia Jax going to hell.
Starting point is 02:18:10 But how was the entire trip, you know, start to finish? It was amazing. Every time we go there, they treat us with so much hospitality. We were so well taken care of. And also, I was just honored. I was honored to be the first and only. I knew that that moment was so much bigger than myself, bigger than Nia Jax. Every time we get to go to Saudi Arabia, there's always so much progress being made,
Starting point is 02:18:30 whether it's Natalia and Lacey Evans having the very first women's wrestling match there, or Becky and Lita being on the first billboard featuring women there, to Nia Jax and I having the very first ever women's crown jewel championship match there, and me being the history maker that I am, being the first and only Women's Crown Jewel champion. But it is a big story. The WWE working with the Saudi Arabia government
Starting point is 02:18:53 and people over there. Huge deal. So much bigger than... Yeah, and you've been there. I've not had a chance to be there, but I get a chance to hear everybody talk about it. And obviously,
Starting point is 02:19:01 there was a lot of drawback at the beginning of this. Why, why, why would you ever do that? And it's like, well, I think like taking steps forward has to start with like a first at the beginning you talk about natty going out there there was no women allowed on like the first couple shows over there and then obviously it opens up then it opens up and then i think jess ref she was like in charge of the title match it's like that's maybe the most powerful position that any woman has ever had in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 02:19:25 And then it continues to grow. I think it's been a great thing over there. I haven't been there. Do you feel like there are people feel that way as well? I do. I do. And I think that's why we keep going back. So much history is being made.
Starting point is 02:19:36 So much progress is being made. And I'm honored to be a part of it. And I think we're just going to keep on doing it. We're going to keep on progressing. Long flight. Long flight. That's a long flight. It's going to keep on doing it. We're going to keep on progressing. Long flight. Long flight. That's a long flight. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:19:47 It's worth it. Ty has a question for you, Liv. What's your beef with Rhea? That's a good question. Every time I turn on the TV, you're inflicting more damage. How much time do we have today? Haven't you done enough? I mean, haven't you?
Starting point is 02:20:01 We love Rhea on this show. We do. Oh, you do? Do you know how cool this is? Yeah. That's so cool. You look so cool doing that. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Come on. No, you look better than her doing it, so I'll give you that. Okay, Liv, let's, please. What is your problem? That's a compliment. Yeah, I gave him a compliment. Well, you know, it goes way back. So, Ria and I were tag team partners.
Starting point is 02:20:24 She turned her back on me. We had, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um,
Starting point is 02:20:32 she cost me and Raquel, our tag team championships. And then she injured me the next week on raw. She dislocated my shoulder. I tore my labrum, my rotator cuff, my bicep had surgery, my first ever injury in WWE.
Starting point is 02:20:44 And so, um um i'm sitting at home rehabbing my shoulder watching rhea ascend to the top of the division without a care in the world for what she did to me or how i feel so i sat home i sat home for six months and i decided what do i want to do when i come back and so i created the live morgan revenge tour which the sole purpose was to come back and take away everything that Rhea Ripley loved. So, Dominic, mine. The Judgment Day, mine. The Women's World Championship, mine.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Success. Come on. Congratulations. Give it to me. Thank you. Congratulations. You did everything you sought out to do. Long term, though, it might be a bad decision. You might be a little short-sighted here.
Starting point is 02:21:25 I don't think so. Rhea bloody Ripley. Yeah, she sought out to do. Long term, though, it might be a bad decision. You might be a little short-sighted here. I don't know. I don't think so. Rhea bloody Ripley? Yeah, she's out of action. Broke an orbital bone. Because of me. Bye-bye. She's going to be gone for a really, really, really, really, really long time, Pat.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Ooh. I'm bummed out about that. I'm sorry. Why'd you do that? I like... Because she kept getting in my way. Okay. She's obsessed with Dominic. What about the Rhea Ripley revenge story?
Starting point is 02:21:44 Are you worried about that? No. There about the Rhea Ripley Revenge Tour? Are you worried about that? No There is no Rhea Ripley Revenge Tour We are now on the Liv Morgan World Tour Because we graduated from the Liv Morgan Revenge Tour We're now on the Liv Morgan World Tour So there's no Rhea Ripley Revenge Tour So the World Tour goes to Saudi Arabia
Starting point is 02:21:57 Wins the crown jewel Comes here You see what I did there? Yeah, great work D-Bud has a question for you, Liv Speaking of the Liv Morgan world tour, in long-term success, been a long history of WWE superstars going on the big screen,
Starting point is 02:22:10 make a big screen. You've been in Kill Room, Chucky, Season 2. Aw, thanks. So, going forward, you have aspirations to do more of that? I do. I do. I'm so focused on WWE right now and obviously being the greatest women's world champion of all time, but I would like to explore and see what I can do in film and TV.
Starting point is 02:22:27 And WWE has actually been really helpful with that. And so that's awesome that they're kind of just letting me see what I can do. It's kind of, WWE has been a pipeline in entertainment. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Obviously, we all know the superstars that have gone over there.
Starting point is 02:22:38 But what you have to do, now, I don't obviously love the tactics in which you do what you do. That's okay, you don't need to. Exactly. which you do what you do. That's okay. You don't need to. Exactly. I respect them, though. Obviously, you got the hardware to prove it.
Starting point is 02:22:49 But like week in, week out, exposed in front of like 13,000, 14,000 people. Was there ever a moment where you thought nerves, anxiety too much? And how did you get to this championship level mindset? Because in wrestling wrestling real deal brother you are exposed everywhere and it is like anything you go wrong real serious shit can go wrong and also if something little goes wrong you're being nitpicked to death was there ever a moment and when do you think you got to the point to get this championship mentality yeah i feel like my whole career up until after my injury um I
Starting point is 02:23:26 didn't come from entertainment I don't have a wrestling family I'm not a division one athlete and so I think I almost like had like imposter syndrome for a very long time not feeling like I deserve to be here that I earned to be here but I loved it so much I grew up a fan of WWE since I was five years old it's all I've ever wanted to do. But I think I struggled for a long time just feeling like I don't fit the bill. And it wasn't until I had my time off during my injury that I got to just really sit with myself for the first time in the last 10 years of my life. I've been with WWE since I was 20 years old. And so to just have no schedule and to just really like sit with myself i feel like it did wonders for
Starting point is 02:24:06 my mental health my confidence and so when i came back i just uh i felt so different um and i just knew i was ready now how about the training that you've been putting in too i think that needs to listen how you go about doing things we don't love okay it is an angle obviously we're doing what you're doing it's working who you're around, just trash-level mulleted people. You don't like anything about me then, huh? No. I'm about to say this. You've put in a lot of work, and I think everybody has seen it on social down in the dungeon with Natty and TJ and everybody.
Starting point is 02:24:36 How much do you feel like you can still get better in the ring, even though you're already champion? I feel like everyone could always get better. I feel like I can always get better. I feel like I can always get better. I feel like in WWE, you'll never know it all. You'll never know it all. So that yearning to want to know it all is what's going to keep you improving and getting better and better.
Starting point is 02:24:57 And that's what I strive for. I want to be as good as I can be. I want to know it all. So I definitely think I can be leaps and bounds better, but I'm going to be leaps and bounds better, but I'm gonna be leaps and bounds better. I'm the best I've been so far. Yeah, because you love it.
Starting point is 02:25:09 Love it. I think whenever you love something, obviously you invest fully into it. It's obvious that you do that. AJ has a question for you from Ohio. Yeah, Liv. So I know Darius
Starting point is 02:25:19 asked you about, you know, possibly doing more acting in the future. What about you and Dom together I'm thinking you guys would be a great rom-com duo I'd go watch that movie I know that
Starting point is 02:25:29 They're always talking trash on him Use this time to let us know what you love about Dom And why he is so awesome That's a good question AJ Dominic and I could definitely be in a rom-com Dominic I think he would be a fantastic actor But what do I love about Dominic What do I not love about Dominic?
Starting point is 02:25:46 His mustache, his hair. He's so dominant. He's so strong. He's so brave. You said so dumb, right? Yes. Dominic. Oh, I thought you said dumb.
Starting point is 02:25:55 No, he's actually highly, highly intelligent. He really is. He really is. So, yeah, I think maybe what do I not love about Dominic, which is nothing, so. He's a protector too isn't he He's the best No
Starting point is 02:26:08 You know why Because his dad didn't accept him for who he is And neither did Rhea and neither did Damien But I do and that's why what happened to them Is not going to happen to me What they didn't like him eating tendies all day Yeah they didn't let him be himself I let Dominic be himself. Dominic is a man.
Starting point is 02:26:26 He doesn't need anyone to tell him what to do. And so I don't. I let him do whatever his heart pleases. I accept him for who he is. So he wouldn't do to me what, you know, he did to his dad, what he did to Ray. No, never. No, he wouldn't do that. No. You don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:26:42 We are like this. Who? Me and Dominic. Do you see how tight knit that is? I think he's doing that and then he's got this one behind him. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no, no. That's Dominic football. Yeah, that's Dominic football.
Starting point is 02:26:56 Don't want to hate break to you. Let's go to Hammer. Ton, Ton. Ton has a question for you. I'm not going to let you guys influence me. Uh-oh. You shouldn't live there. Well, I need you to influence me.
Starting point is 02:27:06 Hold on, Tony. Well said. He's not on your side, Liv. I might be. We'll see. I need you to influence me because I can't get a read on this human in the WWE universe. We've hung out with him a few times. Is Michael Cole a scumbag or is he someone we should like?
Starting point is 02:27:22 He's a good guy. Come on, Tony. I used to have a really good relationship with Michael Cole, but I feel like he's like Pat. He's kind of like turning on me a little bit. I don't know. Now Michael Cole has nothing good to say about me. He has nothing good to say about Dominic. So we used to be cool, but not so much anymore.
Starting point is 02:27:39 Okay, good. Thank you. Cole sucks. Let's be real. He's right on your... I know. To remind myself every day, this guy sucks. That's why I leave it there.
Starting point is 02:27:47 Do you miss him? Yeah, I do. I miss WWE. I actually started a show with that. Come back home. I miss it so much. I do. It's so much fun. It's the greatest. You're going to be in the Rumble, bro? Whoa.
Starting point is 02:28:01 I have been working out, haven't I? Two's gone. Yeah, I got fresh. How about it? I didn't even think about that I may be more healthy than I've ever been If you take a hook no tooth are coming out The button all of a sudden got smaller That's something to think about
Starting point is 02:28:16 It hurts like hell right now It has only gotten worse You're like no selling it though I can't even tell Hell yeah Don't try to win me over you're still dating You're still no-selling it, though. I can't even tell. Hell yeah! I had no idea. Listen, don't try to win me over. You're still dating. Okay? You're still dating dumb. What's next in the WWE? We got Survivor Series War Games, right? Yep. We have
Starting point is 02:28:31 War Games coming up. EO Sky is my number one contender for my championship. You know, Tiffany Stratton, she has the money in the bank briefcase. There's a lot of things going on. Everyone wants a piece of Liv Morgan. But luckily, there's enough of me to go around for everyone. Really? Yeah. So so are you going to be fighting everybody um like war games for instance yep i've been in a war game that's right i've never okay let me can you get some knowledge
Starting point is 02:28:59 on me uh so if you're gonna go from the top of that thing And you Assume maybe That everybody is like not ready For it you know And you go up there and you do that And then they are ready for it and then they all just move Yeah Liv I'm sure you saw a clip Yeah if you flat back from the top of that thing
Starting point is 02:29:19 You are going to feel that You are going to feel that for the next week Two weeks, month maybe. Toes to head. So I would say let's not be dancing up on the top unless you have to do what you got to do. But I do know you got to trust the people that you're with when you're going in there. Because war games, two teams that are obviously two cages made into one. You're talking about one of the scariest predicaments in the history of professional wrestling.
Starting point is 02:29:42 So when you get in there, is there a women's war games happening? What has all been figured out thus far for November 30th? I believe there's both. Okay. Is there any other information you can... No. Tables?
Starting point is 02:29:59 Think about that. Oh my gosh. You can't keep talking about Dominic like this in front of me. Well, what's happening is Dominic is maybe making you... No, you're a champion. I won't say that. Say it. Say what you got to say, Pat.
Starting point is 02:30:13 No, you're a champion. Say it with your chest. You're a champion. Thank you. And I respect the hell out of it. Who's EO Sky's next in line? How do you feel about the group? She's very talented.
Starting point is 02:30:23 Obviously, she's very talented. But, I mean, I've retired Becky Lynch. I've taken Rhea Ripley out three times, I beat her twice. I beat Tiffany Stratton, I beat Nia Jax. What? So I'm gonna beat you, Sky. Okay, who do you draw inspiration from in the ring, in the history of the WWE? Nowadays, I'm not sure nowadays know but I think when I started like I loved Lita I
Starting point is 02:30:50 loved Trish Stratus I loved AJ Lee um watching wrestling growing up so I definitely think I pulled from them um but nowadays I'm just Liv Morgan yeah you are the oblivion is a problem it is an absolute problem uh. Congrats on all the success. Royal Rumble tickets pre-sale have gone up today. All you got to do is scan that QR code. It will take you to where you need to be. Obviously, the pre-sale, you get access to the great seats that are going to be gone by Friday when the tickets are officially released. WWE fans are wild.
Starting point is 02:31:20 Here in Indianapolis, just like I talked about earlier, a lot of cities are going to be traveling in here. This place is going to be packed out. It's going to be a magical evening. We're thankful for the WWE coming to town, and we're thankful for you taking time out of your day to hang out with us. Thank you. We're thankful for Indy hosting us. I'm thankful for you for having me. I'm not thankful for the way that you spoke about Dominic,
Starting point is 02:31:39 but I'm thankful to be here nonetheless. We'll take it. Ladies and gentlemen live morgan football is what we talk about that's aj hawk the talk stable is here at boss connor natai schmidt nine-year nfl vet host of everything db good d bad d darius j butler live from hammer god Everything DB, good D, bad D, Darius J. Butler is there. Live from Hammer. Todd! Todd! Is AP Tone. And joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a 12-year NFL vet who is a Super Bowl champion head coach.
Starting point is 02:32:11 Not head coach, sorry. Could have been. Should have been. Speaking to existence. On his way. Manifested. Hell yeah. Maybe of a middle school team.
Starting point is 02:32:19 No team. Not at all. Maybe like the Ann Arbor Packers. Thank you, Shipley. Thank you. That was a really good intro. I hope you feel good about yourself. All right, now that we've established that you're a good football brain
Starting point is 02:32:35 and a great football guy, coming out of Week 10, now we're heading into the home stretch here. What are some three takeaways that you think we should be thinking about with the end of Week 10 and the beginning here of Week 11? with number one let's start with former teammate of mine calais campbell ageless wonder i said right he's 37 years old he's in his 17th season in in the nfl and listen when i signed with arizona in 2015 he was already like nine years in he's played for another decade after that but let's take a look at him. Right here. He's playing the nose. He's still doing the dirty work in his 17th season.
Starting point is 02:33:08 He doesn't make the play here, but he sets up the guard. Chop Robinson gets down. Doing the dirty work in year 17. I'll bait him. I'll bait him. I'll bait him. Occupy his eyes. Let somebody else get the sack, right?
Starting point is 02:33:19 Next one is awesome. Let's just drive him straight back. We're going to stay in the A gap because most guys get pushed out to the B gap. Stay there. Get the tip. Interception. Huge play. Huge play. There it is. Got to make the play, right? Last one. We're going to loop this guy out. Calais is going to loop out to number 70.
Starting point is 02:33:36 Press the pocket because all he has to do is hold the edge, hold the edge, hold the edge. Nope. Fall into it. Get a sack. Three huge plays in the first half for a 37-year-old. 38 years old, 17 years in this entire thing. Perfect technique, though, and fundamentals. And everybody that's ever met him absolutely loves him. Calais
Starting point is 02:33:51 is a dog. Gotta love that voice, too. You hear him afterwards. Very deep. Did I nail it? Voice fits. Yeah, it sounds like it. That's it. 1,000%. That's right. What a good guy. What a good kind of representative of football. Agree. He is Calais Campbell,000%. That's right. What a good dude. What a good guy. What a good kind of, you know, representative of football.
Starting point is 02:34:07 Agree. He is Calais Campbell, and hopefully he's able to play for another 20 years. Yeah. What's the second big takeaway coming out of Week 10, AQ? Nobody talks about them ever because they're out in the desert. Nobody cares about them. They've been bad the last couple years, but the Arizona Cardinals are the best in the West. Well, they got the best record.
Starting point is 02:34:20 We know that. Are they the best, though? They are, and they are playing very well. They got one of the better offensive lines in football. Kyler's playing out of his mind and petting the best record. We know that. Are they the best though? They are, and they are playing very well. They got one of the better offensive lines in football. Kyler's playing out of his mind, and Petzing, the offensive coordinator, is doing some awesome stuff. Let's take a look here. We're going to pull the guard. You got a bunch of misdirection. Everybody going across
Starting point is 02:34:33 the field. Faking going right. Let's throw the screen. Froholt with the monster block out in space. Connor, this is the first drive of the game. I think the third play of the game. Connor down the sideline sets it up. They are scoring on the first drive of the game almost every single week, which goes into game planning, first 15, preparation, all the good stuff. Good script.
Starting point is 02:34:53 Tyler playing better than ever. He looks really, really good. He looks fast, man. His leadership, too, is on display, I guess, every mic'd up. Absolutely. Undefeated since Call of Duty, which obviously makes some people wonder some stuff. Marvin Harrison Jr. is getting work in there. Defense flies around. Speaking of Marvin Harrison
Starting point is 02:35:10 Jr. We got the little inside fade route, right? Marvin Harrison right here on the slot. Look at this ball. Can it be any better? Can it be any better? Just drop it right in a bucket. Marvin Harrison is coming on. Kyler is confident as all get out, and they are looking awesome on offense. Kyler is so as all get out, and they are looking awesome on offense.
Starting point is 02:35:25 Kyler's so fast. So fast. That kind of gets lost in the entirety of it. Yes. You think like, oh, he's quick, he's quick, he's quick. It's like, no, he's pulling away from people whenever he has to as well. What a dynamic player. And also, you know, kind of seeing him continue to get better and better
Starting point is 02:35:41 and better and better each year. A lot of these games that they've won this year, you would expect a previous Cardinals team to blow it, you know, just be inconsistent for whatever reason. Gannon got the boys bought in. I assume Phoenix is excited about this. Oh, there's a buzz. There's a buzz.
Starting point is 02:35:53 The problem is you get a Midwest team coming out that way in the middle of winter, guess what's going to happen? It's going to be that team's colors. That's the problem. That's the problem. Well, because Phoenix is a beautiful destination, man. They get rid of all the tickets. Chicago comes out there.
Starting point is 02:36:06 Anybody comes out there in December. I mean, we played Green Bay in the playoffs in the second round, and it was full of cheeseheads. Well, that's Green Bay, though. Green Bay is a little bit different. That's right. They're everywhere. Also, McBride is third in the league in tight end receiving yards
Starting point is 02:36:19 behind Bowers and Kittle. Like, he's an absolute dope. And he is. Yeah, he's about it. Perfect alley-oop right there. Into the last play. What is it? We got McBride as the inside tight end closest to us.
Starting point is 02:36:30 Fake. Gets lost in the sauce. Kyler just throws it up. They completely don't even, literally don't even guard him. There was nobody within 20 yards of this play, and that's all by design. They're faking. He's almost, remember DB, remember the old play where the tight end falls down and they lose him?
Starting point is 02:36:43 That's basically what they're selling right there. Drew Petzing is calling the plays that everybody practices, but nobody calls. He's calling them all. All the trick plays are coming out. Oh, no bullets left in the chamber for Arizona, too. They're confident. They're going for it, and they've got a team.
Starting point is 02:36:57 What's the third takeaway you think from Week 10 AQ Shipley? Here we go. Is Dallas' D working harder than McCarthy? Jeez. Watch out. This comes from, I assume there's a little bit of, you know. Form a nitty-gritty line. Mike said at the end of a quote.
Starting point is 02:37:14 Yep. At the end of a quote. Everybody's talking about the beginning of the quote. Yep. End of the quote, I think, was more where, you know, guys who he was putting over his teammates, which I respect and appreciate, they've done more than Mike McCarthy could ever do.
Starting point is 02:37:28 Mike McCarthy's been coaching the NFL for 25 years, obviously. He's committed his life. I assume he's seen his family five, ten times. Sure. Maybe. The entire stint. Yeah. In the entirety of it all.
Starting point is 02:37:36 But Mike was just caught up in there. But I do appreciate you saying, well, let's talk about work. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it a little bit. We've got a couple defensive guys here, right? We've got a nose guard and we've got a defensive end. Who is Micah Parsons to the open side? When somebody slants, when you get a slant and a slant,
Starting point is 02:37:50 there has to be someone off the edge, right? But anyways, we're going to let a center reach Micah Parsons right there. And then there's no edge defender. There's no edge defender within 15 yards. And you get an easy 20-yard game. Next play, you're going to really love this one on the next play. So check this out. Oh, we call the play in.
Starting point is 02:38:05 Nobody knows. We're confused. He's been out for a couple weeks. Let's get him back. Yeah, Michael Parson, traitor. This looks like brother-in-law. This looks like brother-in-law. We're going to get up inside and get a couple plays.
Starting point is 02:38:14 But listen, the effort needs to be better. The effort needs to be better. The buy-in needs to be better for this Dallas Cowboys team to actually win some games. Mike Zimmer, he's their D coordinator. I guess he's obviously had to answer some questions about people buying into his system, and his answer was, it's a matter of man.
Starting point is 02:38:29 It's just football, basically, throughout the entirety. Whenever you see stuff like this on film, abnormal, right? Obviously against a rival, a division rival. What are your thoughts as somebody that used to coach? And if you're an offensive lineman, how do you feel whenever you watch this type of film? I've been saying this since week one. Listen, you've got personnel in here from a previous coach,
Starting point is 02:38:46 and then Mike Zimmer's trying to work with what he's got. But listen, at the end of the day, when you get guys out of gaps, when they're not taking on defenders with the right shoulder, when they're coming downhill, when you've got guys slanting, getting reached by a center and nobody filling the edge, there is so many more problems than are being shown on tape because it's the buy-in. It's the preparation throughout the week.
Starting point is 02:39:03 It's all the other things that go into this. Would agree db i 100 all point yeah what you do in the dark comes to the light boom you know what people don't see except for the people that are paying a good amount of money for to tour yeah exactly right they're the only ones that are seeing it i assume a ton of friends that are maybe in other facilities and probably getting a little bit of an advantage that way but hey 10 million bucks a year but what you're doing in there comes to the light always does everybody knows that's like an entire off season will come to light in the regular season like everybody knows if you did your shit or not yeah like some people think they can sneak by and i think there was even times where i wasn't you know obviously i end up getting a public intoxication during a week in the middle
Starting point is 02:39:42 of the season i was bi-week but, still was not focusing on the right shit. And I was not good enough to be doing what I was doing. You know, like everybody knows it always ends up coming out at some point. And normally it's in the biggest moment. Normally it's in the biggest moment where it all gets exposed. So that's what we're talking about when we're saying be a pro. And whenever you question other people and everything like that. 100% right.
Starting point is 02:40:02 And listen, my whole thing was when I would prepare during the week, I would always try and have the answers to the test by the time I got to Sunday. Sure, nerves play into it once you get the first hit out of the way, but you can't be nervous the whole game whenever you're prepared. You know everything from the week. You got all the answers. If they bring this or if they show this, you have an answer to everything. Then when it shows up on game day, you know what to do.
Starting point is 02:40:21 Who said it? I forget who it was. Maybe Peyton. The people that are nervous are hell, or the people that don't know what the fuck they're doing. Pretty much. It's like that certainly adds a different level to it. That certainly adds another higher level to it. All right, let's go to the top five offensive lines in the trenches with A.Q. Shipley.
Starting point is 02:40:39 Hey, this has become one of my favorite segments. Oh, yeah. This is basically indicating who the good teams are. If you have been paying attention to what's going on around the NFL. Who's number five team? AQ Shipley.
Starting point is 02:40:49 Yeah, they fell a little bit this week, but they still had an amazing performance, especially by what they did in the fourth quarter. The Detroit Lions, number five.
Starting point is 02:40:57 Wow, number five? Yeah, number five this week. They struggled a little bit early, but they figured it out. Listen, they went to something that they're not normally doing. They're always going with the zone scheme. They run the wham. They mixed it up in the fourth early, but they figured it out Listen, they went to something that they're not normally doing They're always going with the zone scheme
Starting point is 02:41:06 They run the wham They mixed it up in the fourth quarter And they start giving Gibbs the ball Let's listen, hey, we're going to take advantage of the defense trying to penetrate Cool, we're going to trap block everybody Guard, out, guard, out, wham, inside Look at Penesol, widen the gap Look at Ragnow, get up on the second level
Starting point is 02:41:22 Gibbs bounces it, gets 15 yards They ran this two or three times this series And they started getting some plays off the gap. Look at Ragnow get up on the second level. Gibbs bounces it. Gets 15 yards. They ran this two or three times this series, and they started getting some plays off the gap scheme, which is different than what they normally do on the zone. Oh, so they're adding stuff. Yeah. It's getting better. Wow.
Starting point is 02:41:34 Gibbs is so fast. So fast. Did you see him bounce right there and just take off? It's crazy. It's nuts. Yeah. Crazy. Really crazy.
Starting point is 02:41:40 But watch all the misdirection. 89 right in. Zeitler across the center. Glasgow, the other left guard. Everybody's going left. And then all tackle center and Sewell are all going right. So it's literally crisscross, right? Look at that.
Starting point is 02:41:54 Look at the motion. That's where the defense sees. Those arrows. No, yeah. Bingo. And then you just hit it right off there. Take advantage of a defense trying to penetrate. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:42:03 Let me also make one more little nugget, right? Houston, D'Amico Ryans came from San Fran, right? San Fran, one of the best zone teams in the league. How do you defeat a zone? You penetrate. So that's what they were doing early in the season. I talked to this with Foxy, and they try and penetrate to beat the zone, which they did, they did, they did.
Starting point is 02:42:17 And then they come back and run some gap schemes later in the game and they gashed them. Second half adjustments. Exactly. That's the biggest takeaway from this whole thing. The first half, the Houston D was killing them, and they adjusted. I'd love to see that. Tell you what, man, halftime adjustments, man. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:42:32 Ben Johnson gave a game ball, man. Jared Goff stopped throwing as many picks, man, but we won, man. That's right. Five picks still win a game. Crazy. Football gods are on your side. And he was still slinging it after those five picks. I love that.
Starting point is 02:42:43 Unflappable. That's goof, baby. He didn't care at all. What's his stat? 7-0. All right. Who's number four offensive line? God damn it!
Starting point is 02:42:51 Yeah, speaking of Dallas here, they're on the wrong side again. Philadelphia Eagles, number four. Wow. I got two plays from the Philadelphia Eagles, and the reason why I'm showing you this is let's take a look at this. It's the exact same play, two different plays out of it. First time, we're going to pull both right guard and right tackle across. We're going to hand it off
Starting point is 02:43:07 to Saquon. We don't even block 97 and 98 and get Saquon out around the edge. You arced 81 and you get the big play. And then, you're going to come back a couple plays later, literally two plays later. Same exact formation. Same exact thing. Pull guard tackle. Fake to Saquon. They think that's
Starting point is 02:43:23 coming. Guess what? Get up inside. You get a kick out. Ball to lane. Jalen Hurts. Fake to Saquon. They think that's coming. Guess what? Get up inside. You get a kick out. Ball to Lane. Jalen Hurts. Touchdown. Touchdown. Just ran a guy over. How good is that?
Starting point is 02:43:32 That's a big motherfucker. It's a bad spot to be in if you're that DB. That's going to be tough. How do you sort this, AJ? What are you guys doing? You're just saying, nah, nah, nah. I mean, if you're the DB, as D-Bud said, you're taking on Lane Johnson. You're falling off that block and trying to tackle Jalen Hurts
Starting point is 02:43:46 as he's running downhill. Like, good luck right here. Got away from Lane pretty well. I mean, yeah, okay. Is that Sirianni football, baby? Yeah, Sirianni football. Is that Becton? Yeah, that's a great kickoff by Becton.
Starting point is 02:44:00 Great job. The only chance is if AQ's old school football of two would have just shot his gun early and chopped Lane's legs down at the line of scrimmage. Same. That's the whole thing right now. We talk about it all the time. These DNs, they can really blow up the play if they just chop them down, but boy. You've got to make that decision
Starting point is 02:44:17 quick. You've got to make it quick. Who's number three offensive line? Sorry, boys. I have an assumption. The Buffalo Bills. Damn it. They did look good. They did.
Starting point is 02:44:28 They did. They're looking really good. They're running for over 100 yards the last couple weeks. Let's take a look at Deion Dawkins. I love this guy. I love watching him play. He's dirty. He's physical.
Starting point is 02:44:36 Let's watch him come down to the deuce block. Ejects the three technique out. Climbs to the second level. We get the kick out from the other tackle. Brown coming across. And then you don't want to get in that guy's way Josh Allen Whoa, whoa, whoa
Starting point is 02:44:48 That's a little late It was I like that We were setting the tone a little bit there You see the boys coming to help him out Yeah, if you see Josh just walk it off He looks back at him and just walks it off Doesn't say anything
Starting point is 02:44:58 Watching the Josh Allen experience is certainly something Just exuding confidence Is an understatement. He is a problem. Let's go football. Yeah, no doubt. That was a late hit on him. I love the little chop down to get in the end zone.
Starting point is 02:45:12 I love the hand chop down. Need more of that on the Colts these days. Amen. Amen. Amen. Oh, yeah, Connor. All right. Let's go, Coach.
Starting point is 02:45:21 Come on, Coach. Touchdown for the Bills. Yeah, big touchdown, actually. What's go, Coach. Come on, Coach. Touchdown for the Bills. Yeah, big touchdown, actually. What's that, buddy? That's a touchdown run for the Buffalo Bills, but I agree. It was a great finish. That's right. We do want a finish like that.
Starting point is 02:45:34 That's right. We need less. We need less of those. All right, who's number two performing offensive line from Week 10 in AQ Shipley's eyes? Go out to the desert. The Arizona Cardinals. A couple times now. It feels like he's trying to earn a little favor. No out to the desert. The Arizona Cardinals. A couple times now. Feels like he's trying to earn a little favor, man. No, no, no. I was
Starting point is 02:45:47 anti them. I was anti their offense for a couple years, but they are looking very good. Let's take a look at this. We're going to motion McBride over. We don't want him blocking, so guess what we're going to do? We're going to bluff Arkin. Guess what that does? It holds the D-end for the kickout. Brown's coming across the line. He's going to kick him out. 84. Now, let's
Starting point is 02:46:04 take a look at this. Hold on. Let's go back real quick. Because I love talking about this guy. Tip Ryman. Third round pick out of Illinois. 87 on the backside. Let's watch him. Tip. Yep. He had a great game. He literally caved down the whole line on the goal line. But watch this one. He's going to kind of just float down, float down. Boom!
Starting point is 02:46:20 Boom! Let's put a DB on their back. That's tip ball. A lot of multiple tight ends says Arizona I mean look how big those holes are Look how big those holes are I mean it's incredible what they're doing out in the desert Beachum's still balling
Starting point is 02:46:36 Beachum's playing well I like that arc release It's nice right? Holds them Then you get the counter up underneath 84 good block Connors just got holes like this over and over again and back every every play wow that's good news going into a big sunday yeah taylor's running good and they just learned how to tackle though so they did a big tackling meeting i don't even think it was close i thought the arizona offensive line beat the
Starting point is 02:47:00 shit out of the jets defense in this game i don't even think it was close oh so maybe it's a post arizona cardinals game, too. Yeah, could be. There you go. I haven't even thought about that. Physical butch. All things looking up for the Indianapolis Colts all of a sudden. All of a sudden.
Starting point is 02:47:11 Ours back, baby. Let's go to the next. You guys ready for this one? Yeah. Number one performing offensive line in the trenches with A.Q. Shipley from week 10. The Carolina Panthers. What?
Starting point is 02:47:25 In London? Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. That is really good. Congratulations, that's Queen City. In Germany.
Starting point is 02:47:38 Yeah, boom. Speaking Deutsch. Eating schnitzel. Frankenburgers. What? Drinking beer steins. What? I mean, Carolina Panthers number one performing offensive line
Starting point is 02:47:52 from week 10 of the NFL season. Wow. Holy shit. What world is this? There's been number fives. There's been number fours. There's been number threes. There's only been a few that have been number one offensive line of the week.
Starting point is 02:48:04 Carolina Panthers is number one. Hell yeah. Those boys go uptown. They'll go downtown down there. Wow, Lake Norman right around the way. Holy shit, Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s right around there. I accidentally said he was dead a couple weeks ago. He is not. Dale Earnhardt Jr. is still very much alive. Thank you, Dale Earnhardt Jr. Way to go, Dale. Holy shit. That was a minute 30. Was it actually? 22 minutes. So long.
Starting point is 02:48:30 So long. They deserve it down there, though. They do. I was about to start back up. We don't need it. Sure. Congrats to Carolina Panthers offensive line for performing at such a level that AQ Shipley said you're number one team. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:42 In the NFL. They look great. They've been good all year. Bryce Young looked better. And Miles Sanders, after getting carted off, is only day-to-day. So that's a win that A.Q. Shipley said you're the number one team in the NFL. They look great. They've been good all year. Bryce Young looked better. And Miles Sanders, after getting carted off, is only day-to-day. So that's a win for them. But Chubba Hubbard.
Starting point is 02:48:52 Chubba Hubbard. What happened? Wait, wait, wait. What was that? We just hit a minute 30 standing ovation for the Carolina Panthers, and then you just said something there. What was that about? He got carted off.
Starting point is 02:49:06 A.J., what's that usually mean when you get carded off? I mean, unfortunately, it's usually a season ender. He's going to be back this week, I think. We're good. That's great news, AQ. Great news. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:49:16 Great news. It sounded like there was a different meaning. A little underlying tone. Penn State guy? Yeah, he's a Penn State guy. And Pittsburgh. Woodland Hills. He's a Penn State guy. W-O-O-D-Y.
Starting point is 02:49:27 Woody High. I assume his body just healed quicker. Yeah, it's got to be Pittsburgh. It's got to be. Bingo. That's right. There you have it. That's right.
Starting point is 02:49:35 Sound like you were not thrilled. Yeah. That is hell. We celebrate the Carolina Patriots. That's right. We celebrate. Plus, he got to get in the showers early, too. Probably nice for him. Yeah, I've been in Germany, too. Grab a hot dog. Grab a hot dog. That's right. We celebrate. Plus, he got to get in the showers early, too. Probably nice for him.
Starting point is 02:49:45 Yeah, we're in Germany, too. Grab a hot dog. Grab a hot dog. Grab a Stein of beer. Oh, beer Steins are very good. Over there in Munich. You do this thing here. You lift it up, and it opens up.
Starting point is 02:49:54 Yeah. They do a lot of those things. Oh, yeah. We know those Penn State guys. Let's get to the film here. Let's take a look at the center and the right guard, right? The center's awesome. Boom.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Hit the three technique. Watch him end up on the ground here. Let's watch this. Little single combo block front side. Boom. Put him down on the ground. There he goes. He's on the ground.
Starting point is 02:50:10 Let's take a look at 50. Hunt from Miami. Sorry, Gumpy. Sorry, buddy. They made a big investment in him in the offseason. Look at him taking two. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 02:50:18 Boom. Takes two. Boom. Boom. Takes two. Job of the hunt. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 02:50:24 Hit the big gaping hole. Get up the middle. Get 25. 150 yards rushing for the Carolina Panthers this week, boys. Congratulations to them. Just got paid, dude. That's truly phenomenal. There's the top five.
Starting point is 02:50:34 The Panthers, wow. The Detroit Lions make a return. The Philadelphia Eagles make a return. The Buffalo Beals haven't been on in a few weeks, I think. Wow. Arizona Cardinals. And then the Carolina Panthers, number one performing offensive line in the NFL.
Starting point is 02:50:47 They're going to be in it. Crazy. What's their record? They're 3-7. They had our struggle. Not bad. Not bad. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Same as the Jets. We got seven games left. Don't look now. Are they only one game back of the Buccaneers? No.
Starting point is 02:51:03 Falcons are 6-4. I know, but the Bucs. Are they only one back of the the Buccaneers? No, Falcons are 6-4. I know, but the Bucs. Are they only one back of the Bucs? One or two? Wait a minute. If they rattle off seven straight here, end up 10-7. Now we're talking. You never know. Everybody's still in it in week 10.
Starting point is 02:51:16 Well, not everybody. Panthers aren't in it. They stink. They played the Giants. Number one offensive line? Of course, number one offensive line. The Giants are still not in. Because if they win seven straight, they're still not
Starting point is 02:51:30 double-digit. I think if you can't get the ten wins, I think you are currently... Same record as the Finns. Three and six, actually. Yeah, three and six, brother. And I take my chances against the Panthers, brother. Okay. Well, I don't know. You see the offensive line number one? Yeah, number one. Yeah, very good. Panthers pounded the rock. Especially against the Panthers, brother. Okay. Well, I don't know. You see the offense line number one?
Starting point is 02:51:45 Yeah, number one. She was running wide. Yeah, very good. Panthers pounded the rock. Especially against the Giants. Xavier Ligue. Giants have been playing everybody tough. Giants?
Starting point is 02:51:53 Yeah. Oh, and we all know the German Giants are a little different. It's like five of our eight losses were one-score games. But, yeah. Oh. We do some. Congrats. No big deal.
Starting point is 02:52:02 Congrats. Still in it. They're a tough squad. They are tough. What's going to happen with that Giants team, you think, going forward, Bruce? What do you think happens with the Giants next year? Let's say opening kickoff day, what does it look like for the Giants? I mean, I think we've got to draft a quarterback
Starting point is 02:52:16 or maybe play a free agent lottery with a quarterback, but definitely somebody new under center. But I'm starting to see the silver lining. Tyron Tracy, you know, leading rookies in rushing yards. Malik Nabors leading rookie receivers in receiving yards. So there are some silver linings. All right, let's go Giants. There we go.
Starting point is 02:52:35 The line's good. Go blue. Daxie. Daxie and Byrne. Yeah, Carson Beck at the top of that draft next year. Boy. He can be in business. He's been throwing a lot of picks.
Starting point is 02:52:44 He's been throwing the ball the other team a lot. Quite a bit. I think he can fix that. Yeah, certainly. Especially if he goes to New York. It's been working out for them. Well, Tennessee,
Starting point is 02:52:53 this weekend, their defense, just no problem. Kind of a cupcake. Yeah, their defense is not. Oh, man. That's the thing about that SEC. We're not getting into it.
Starting point is 02:53:03 Our show's licensed on ESPN, so everybody expects us to say it anyways. The amount of SEC, ESPN, you know. ESPN, with those college football playoffs, the amount of money they've invested in that, they would like the best teams. Yeah. And getting other networks teams in there for their biggest games,
Starting point is 02:53:23 that's a huge. For sure. That is a huge win for ESPN. That seemingly never gets talked about at all. But down in SEC, those defenses are just – they all run four fives, seemingly, and everybody is 350-plus. Yeah, they're huge. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:53:41 I don't know how it works. I don't understand it all, but Carson Beck has got another tall task this weekend with Tennessee, but he'll figure it out. Yeah. He better. Brian Kelly said, he was like, yeah, I was, you know, set up, prepared for the big game, spotlighting Notre Dame. But these fucking pass rushers, these ends in the SEC.
Starting point is 02:54:01 Skill, position. Everybody talks about wide receivers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wide receivers are good. Yep, they're fast, obviously. And he could run a 4-1, I guess, and a 4. Yeah, wide receivers are good. They're fast, obviously. And he could run a 4-1, I guess, and a 4-2, a little bit different. But the guy's coming off the air.
Starting point is 02:54:14 You know they're running 4-3s now? Do we understand? That's real. It is crazy what the human body is able to do now in football. What's the first thing I tell you every time we go do these watch-alongs? I go stand there and I watch the D-lines and I'm in disbelief.
Starting point is 02:54:29 Guys that can't even get any time on the field and just the physical freaks that they are. It's crazy. He'll be playing two years from now. Two years from now. Let's get his ass to West Virginia tomorrow. He's 275 and can bend and run like the wind. That's the thing. These rosters are full of guys like that.
Starting point is 02:54:46 Never saw a guy like that at West Virginia. We'd love that. You'd play him more. Yeah. Not in this game, obviously. It's going to take a little bit for us to get here, but you know. You get it. You know what we're saying.
Starting point is 02:54:55 Football is in a great place. Congrats to Carolina Panthers. Still in it. Yeah. Still in it. Mathematically there. Still hope. Still hope.
Starting point is 02:55:03 Benched a quarterback. He came back. Played even better. Teams rallying around him. That sounds like someone Still hope. Benched a quarterback. He came back, played even better. Teams rallying around him. That sounds like someone we know. Yes, it does, doesn't it? We all agree now, don't we? We're all seeing the same picture? Yep.
Starting point is 02:55:15 It's Jets in a blowout. Colts beating the Jets in a blowout. That'd be tough. Rodgers just spinning the fucking pill all over the place. Where's that game at here? At life. Yeah, exactly. I hadn't even thought of that.
Starting point is 02:55:30 Not to mention Scott and Jetman. I hadn't even thought of that. No chance. Scott and Jetman? This is life or death for Fireman Ed. This weekend. I mean, the Jets season. But also, maybe Fireman Ed.
Starting point is 02:55:45 This is going to be the first time AR has eyes on Fireman Ed, right? Uh-oh. There you go. Hope they're watching film, Ed. This is the first time Fireman Ed's going to have eyes on AR, though. Let's remember that. He might. We don't know.
Starting point is 02:55:57 Maybe he thinks there's five letters instead of four. Can you imagine? J-E-T-T-S Everybody sees it though Everybody knows Fraud! Fraud! Fraud! Fraud! That's possible when you see AR you're like
Starting point is 02:56:15 Holy shit How many There's a chance He wakes up and does this in his mirror every day. I understand, yeah. Obviously, what you do in the dark comes to light, especially when you're doing any craft that is being showcased to the entire world. And he never, guys never missed.
Starting point is 02:56:34 Look, you don't even have to play the sound. You know what's happening right there. Yeah, he might have a special chant too. He might do like a T-A-P-O-U-T and get the whole fucking stadium doing it. Can you imagine? They're not going to do that. I don't know.. Can you imagine? They're not going to do that. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:56:46 Fireman Ed's not going to do that. They might. Tap out? They are not going to do that. What if he wears one of the old tap out shirts to the game? Well, it's probably because there's a big UFC fight tonight. You're right. Which there is.
Starting point is 02:56:57 I heard he's actually in Stipe's corner. Fireman Ed's walking him out. Walking him out with him. Fraternity. S-T-I-P-E Stipe Stipe Stipe
Starting point is 02:57:09 S-T-I-P-E Stipe Stipe Stipe There's a chance Holy fuck I'll watch John Jones fighting Stipe this week That's a huge fight would be sweet yeah holy i'll watch john john's fighting steep
Starting point is 02:57:26 pay this week that's a huge fight that is a huge fight it's a big card that's yeah yeah they're large humans bones is fighting that again also yeah heavyweight chandler goat michael chandler's on his car michael chandler oliveira what oh my god what the this this course has been kind of for us we knew yeah. Yeah, of course we did. Yeah, Monday. What were those odds? For what? Yeah, Bones is a bit of a slight failure. What the hell?
Starting point is 02:57:53 Minus 725. Did Stipe lose an arm and a leg that I wasn't aware of? Not yet. What the fuck? I thought Stipe was the champ before. What the fuck's going on? Is he some schlub now? Is he fighting with an oxygen tank? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:07 He got caught in a fire recently? What the fuck? He is a fireman. He is a fireman. Obviously, he's a badass. He's an Ohioan, too. I assume he's been told that he's a massive underdog. Hey, everyone thinks.
Starting point is 02:58:20 Stipe would just use that as another. Yeah, but then in the lead up to the fight, I recently saw that he said, bring it on, bitch, twice to Jon Jones, and let's just say Jon Jones didn't take very kindly to that. Jon got actually mad? Oh, yeah. Said, you're going to fucking regret saying that. Believe me. He's like, see, now you had to disrespect me, so you're going to regret saying that.
Starting point is 02:58:37 Now I'm actually going to train for this. Yeah, exactly. That one's pound for pound. Best fighter in the world. You better believe it Ain't that right I dare you to say otherwise I got a chance to watch a show one time Live, Baltimore
Starting point is 02:58:52 You and me We were right in the middle of the whole thing That guy was fucking toying with a dude For four rounds, I don't know, three rounds He could have ended it whenever he wanted to And was just kind of fucking with the guy Hit him with like nine spinning elbows. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:06 Just like messing with him. Also, palming forehead. Yeah. And then just elbow the guy in the head and then right back to the hand. And then like he did the Ray Lewis dance on the way out. And that continued in the fight. I mean, it was a spectacle. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:19 It was like, wow, this fucking guy is different than everybody else. And he was. Yeah. And then he continues. And then he comes back, what, and taps the guy out in two minutes. Yeah. Zero gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:29 Not even fucking close. And they're going back to the old gloves, I think, so he can do that and poke the eyes. No, he doesn't like poking. Well, it's inadvertent, but he knows what he's doing. He's poking a couple eyes in there. No, John Jones does not poke eyes. A couple wet willies. A little tougher to defend. He's not giving a wet willy. I think he's giving a couple. in there. No, John Jones does not poke eyes. A couple wet willies. A little tougher to defend.
Starting point is 02:59:45 He's not giving a wet willy. I think he's giving a couple. A little fish hook. Michael Chandler's fighting again? Oh, yeah. He's a fun fighter to watch. Showman. He will be in there.
Starting point is 02:59:55 He'll put his face right on a table for somebody to punch. Their first fight was incredible. Incredible. Every fight that Chandler's in is incredible. Yeah. Legitimately. That's a real take. Because he came out from Bell out from bellator right he was their king and he comes over to ufc i think there was a lot of people that i only watch ufc so i didn't know much about
Starting point is 03:00:12 bellator and everything else so like when he comes in i'm like i don't know much about him and then he's just he is literally throwing bombs and then getting punched in the face and it's like this guy's must watch and you hear him talking he's like and it's like, this guy's a must-watch. And then you hear him talk, and he's like, yeah, I would like my fights to be entertaining. He's like, let's get this fucking guy. And he's been waiting on Conor for what? He's been waiting on Conor for two years. Two years.
Starting point is 03:00:32 A couple years now. Yes, Bo Nickel, Penn State, all right? Yeah, Penn State national champion. Stipe's eighth? What happened there? He hasn't fought in like six years. He doesn't have a right arm anymore. Wait.
Starting point is 03:00:43 He does have a right arm. Oh, he does? Yes, he does have a right arm. Can we get like one or two here? I love Stipe, but come on. I think him picking Stipe is a big deal. So I think Jon Jones, now granted Stipe called him a...
Starting point is 03:00:59 You said he called him a... He said, bring it on, bitch. He said it twice. And then Jon Jones said, what are you doing? Jon Jones was recording it on his TV watch, and he said, okay, now you have to disrespect me. So now I'm going to have to beat the fuck out of you. Well, I think the original, if I'm thinking about this properly and remembering it right, Jon Jones wanted to fight Stipe because Stipe was the greatest heavyweight champion of all time.
Starting point is 03:01:21 So that was like the, I would like to fight Stipe to kind of settle this whole thing, I think was the convo. For Stipe, big fight. For John, obviously, huge fight. Stipe, though, being that big of an underdog, I assume he's using that to his advantage, AJ? Yeah, I'm sure it is. I mean, you talk about ring rust, both these guys haven't been in there a bunch
Starting point is 03:01:38 over the last, what, five or six years. So I'm curious to see how Stipe feels once he's back in there. Man, really quiet out of the bones camp, huh? Like, this fight's happened, I haven't heard anything. At all? Real quiet. That's good, I think, right? Overshadowed by Jake Paul and Mike Tyson on Friday night. Can't wait for that MGM, I guess, just put out a post
Starting point is 03:01:55 that said that might be the most bet boxing fight of all time or something like that. Which way are you betting? Do you know? Are you waffling? Well, I guess most bet because Mike is an underdog correct so people are going to take him you tell me what would you uh i honestly don't know like i have a hard time ever picking against mike tyson i really do when you watch him you can still punch hard we know he can punch hard we know he can i watch his public warm-up this one from yesterday and it's like he's throwing punches like he looks like there is
Starting point is 03:02:27 yeah real fucking oh yeah which is mike tyson football you know but 31 year age gap isn't that it that's pretty significant isn't that a massive ordeal yeah i think he's gonna have to knock him out in the first round yeah Yeah, there's definitely, all the signs point to Jake Paul, but it's just impossible to be like, yeah, I'm taking Jake Paul over Mike Tyson. I'm no boxing expert. At all. But I know conditioning and cardio is a massive thing. And like the human body,
Starting point is 03:02:56 right, doesn't it at certain Mike Tyson might be different? I mean, he might be different. Yeah, I'm going with fucking Iron Mike. Me too. After seeing that, that definitely confirmed it. Even more so. After seeing that, it confirmed it? Yes.
Starting point is 03:03:11 Yep. That didn't do anything for me as far as I'm pumped for Mike. But yeah, it's just I'm not going to bring myself to bet against him. Yeah, in your mouth. I think Tone said this yesterday. Tone said, I won't let my mouth say I'm picking Jake Paulson for Mike Tyson. You know what you said, Tone? That is exactly word for word what I said.
Starting point is 03:03:31 I won't let my mouth do it. He said it, obviously, while he was stating it. But he said, I won't let my mouth do it. It's like, I understand that. And we've seen the highlights. Jake's 27. He's much taller than him, right? Jake?
Starting point is 03:03:46 Yeah. I think so. Tyson was always shorter than the guys he was fighting. He's going to get inside. He's going to try. Are we all feeling the same way though? This is our opportunity to pick Tyson? It's minus 210 for Paul too so you've got to pick either it's going the distance or Jake Paul's going to knock out Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 03:04:02 Can you imagine how you'll feel on Monday too if Tyson, let's say, does knock him out and you pick Jake Paul is going to knock out Mike Tyson. Can you imagine how you'll feel on Monday if Tyson does knock him out and you pick Jake Paul? I didn't hear what you said because I just learned that Mike Tyson is 5'10 and Jake Paul is 6'1. I don't think that matters. But can you imagine how you'll feel on Monday if Mike Tyson knocks
Starting point is 03:04:18 out Jake Paul and you are banging the drum for Jake Paul to win? That's going to be a tough one to swallow. I'll take Jake Paul. These fights are fun. I like when Jake Paul to win. That's going to be a tough one to swallow. I'll take Jake Paul. These fights are fun. I like when Jake Paul wins. If he loses, I'm afraid these fights are over and boxing,
Starting point is 03:04:33 who cares if Jake Paul isn't boxing. I like the selfish pick. Foxy's saying, I would like these things to stay in my life. For that to happen, the rooster, I believe, is going to have to win and it's El Gallo. I just don't know how many 60 year olds are
Starting point is 03:04:50 out there that Jake could keep fighting. Alright. He said he wants to fight Canelo next. Well then we'll just never talk about boxing. The only time we talk about boxing is because of Jake Paul. Nah, that's not true. It's 100% true. We talked about old buddy Canelo.
Starting point is 03:05:06 Saul. Triple G. Saw him out and about. Talked about that. Tyson Fury, absolutely. Tyson Fury, sure. We watched his documentary. We saw his house and we saw where his dad lives. His dad lives in a fucking wagon. The female boxer champion on multiple times. She's fighting on the same card.
Starting point is 03:05:21 She's also fighting. Amanda. She's like the greatest of all time, right? Yeah. Foxy, have a little bit more faith. You guys know I'm right. You guys know I'm right. Yeah. Pig. I mean, even if Jake Paul loses another one of these fights could happen,
Starting point is 03:05:39 he's making $40 million fucking dollars off it. Allegedly, Netflix is paying Jake Paul 40 million and Mike Tyson 20 million for this fight. Have you heard Dana say these don't do well? Dana always says Jake Paul, like they don't sell. Well, yeah, he's not a fan of Jake Paul. Yeah, we know that.
Starting point is 03:05:56 What's the truth, though? What is the truth? How much are they making? I assume Netflix will tell us how many people watched it somehow. They'll be the only ones that'll know, though. That's like all these streaming services they self-report. Do we find out? Is it just, hey, I have Netflix. I'll be the only ones that'll know, though. That's like all these streaming services, they self-report, you know? Me. So do we find out, is it just, hey, I have Netflix, I can see it,
Starting point is 03:06:09 or do I need to, it's an upcharge on top of my Netflix? I don't know. Is it a pay-per-view on a Netflix? You can just watch it. Yeah, it's cool. It's just like the Brady Roast, I'm pretty sure. Comes with it. Yeah, it's just on there.
Starting point is 03:06:18 Right there at the top. Okay. I like Netflix for doing this more. I hope it's a smashing success so they continue to do stuff. More gimmicks. We are going to watch it, right? I know I'm going to watch it. Is that how the NFL game is too?
Starting point is 03:06:29 Because they have the NFL game on Netflix. Christmas, two of them. Both great games. Unlike Thanksgiving. Two weeks. It's not with your family. Thanks. That's right.
Starting point is 03:06:40 Turn TV off. Put the phones down. Put the phones down. Yeah. Talk about everything Play some board games Bring up some politics Still football boys
Starting point is 03:06:48 I can't wait for that Shabuzy at halftime will be great They need to let him play more songs Okay They need to let him play more songs I don't want you to get your hopes up brother He'll get two of them though He'll get two songs
Starting point is 03:06:58 At least I hope so And the whiskey song And the whiskey song Play it again We don't want to hear your fucking shit. Let the guy play Last of My Kind, god damn it. Dude, Last of My Kind.
Starting point is 03:07:10 I was just about to play it. I should not do that. Last of My Kind would be the last time you fucking do one of these if you don't do the whiskey song both times. Do it now. He needs to be able to play some. He's got some other bangers. He does.
Starting point is 03:07:23 Like, Last of My Kind is my favorite song right now. And it like you see shibuzi on anything it's like you know what we want someone pour me a double shot of whiskey yeah and we need you to be happy too but all right he probably hates that song at this point i assume yeah no he's probably thankful no but that song launched him into the stratosphere but i hope they do let him do a couple because last year's thanksgiving concert in detroit yeah they're saying worst ever yeah but they need him to do the upbeat one because they parade all those fucking like eight-year-old kids out there to dance around like they know what the hell's going on so they're not gonna let it do it igloo as well they'll try it out there somebody facetimed me about 10 minutes ago who was part of a conversation we're having so we'll see if he answers.
Starting point is 03:08:06 Farmer Ned? That'd be awesome. It's Halliburton. I was wondering... Okay. Marking out because Liv was on the show or what? It was 314 he called. What were we doing then? 314.
Starting point is 03:08:22 We were in the trenches. I called him this morning to ask if the Pacers were good or not. Because if we were going to talk NBA, I wanted to know if I could talk shit. So I think he was just calling me back. You know, the NBA guys, what do they got? Big game. Pacers got a big game, right? Orlando.
Starting point is 03:08:37 Yeah, Orlando tonight. And we were talking about before, yeah, since Tyrese went down there, did the NXT thing, kind of dunked on all the Magic fans. We assume he's going to go bonkers tonight. Yeah, I would hope so. And he's found a shot. I was just wondering if I could talk shit about the Pacers being good or not. Yeah, it's the NBA Cup.
Starting point is 03:08:53 Exactly. Yeah, they're also in the East. You win like 30 games in the East right now, you're still going to be able to get into the playoffs. Pacers about to win this shit. We like that. NBA was last night, wasn't it? Do we have some big games in the NBA? We did have some big games. Some good matchups in the NBAba you want to talk about it right now absolutely let's do it
Starting point is 03:09:08 let's start with uh the dallas mavericks and the golden state warriors obviously we know clay thompson one of the splash brothers did a long time one a lot of championship and go to state he had a great welcome back home shot six for 12 beyond the arc. But, you know, his old running mate, Steph, is still Steph. Chef Curry got hot late. Dropped 37, including an amazing game winner. I mean, look, no chance on that island. Step back. Steph Curry, football all day.
Starting point is 03:09:36 So, he got the job done. You'll see the step back for game winners. Now, this is the one right here. Switch on the center. Iso, top of the key. You know what this guy, Chef Curry, is going to do. Bomb. Game time. So, I mean, you can't do nothing about that. Obviously, Chef Curry, is going to do. Bomb. Game time.
Starting point is 03:09:45 So, I mean, you can't do nothing about that. Obviously, at a night-night celebration. Next game. Here we go. New court. I mean, at this court, I'm kind of with Tone here. The first court, Warriors court, was pretty nice. It was light.
Starting point is 03:09:57 These dark-colored courts, a little too Mickey Mouse for me, but this is my Miami Heat hero drop for you. He had a great game, but we had a blunder down the stretcher you'll see this great out of bounds play kate cunningham great pass to the rim to tie it up spose so pissed off he calls a timeout that he doesn't have oh no jalen rose is in the building he had flashbacks to 1993 when chris rubber did it when he was part of fab five so now they go to free throw line get two free throws. He ends up knocking one down.
Starting point is 03:10:27 But the Detroit Pistons, maybe the brand-new Pistons, they got a win over my Miami Heat. You see Jalen Rose in his surprise there. Oh, small. Yeah, so, I mean, he's about to be probably the next head coach of Team USA. Can't be having those blunders down the stretch. One of the greatest coaches ever still. I like how he's emotional.
Starting point is 03:10:44 Yeah, absolutely. And the Knicks. Knicks, Philly. Now, you know, MB, he finally made his appearance in the NBA season. Shaq kind of cut a promo on him at halftime. He only played 26 minutes, 13 points. Knicks were too much. They got it done on the road.
Starting point is 03:11:00 Got the win late over the Philadelphia 76ers. Paul George, he did have a good game. Dropped 29, but wasn't enough. Hopefully, maybe Philly. If you're a Philly fan, they can find their form. But I wouldn't be banking too much on Embiid getting stronger as the season goes on. And then the last one, defending champs. Obviously, got to talk about defending champs.
Starting point is 03:11:18 I mean, one thing that they do from time to time is play down their competition. Hawks, no Trey Young. They find a way, even with Jalen Brown dropping 37 at home. He had a big game. Derek White had a big game from beyond the arc as well. Jalen Brown had a chance late. He had a hot night, had a chance late to win this thing, pulled up with a nice step back middie,
Starting point is 03:11:38 but couldn't knock it down to get the win. So the Hawks, the Hawks got a win in their first NBA Cup group play. Good night of basketball, though, in the NBA. It was a good night in the NBA. Joining us now live, we are live, is obviously a man who won for 34-14 the other day. Oh, hell yeah. You're talking about going absolutely bananas.
Starting point is 03:11:57 An Olympic gold medalist. Tyrese, hey, we just did a full bass NBA breakdown. Are Pacers good? I can talk shit now publicly, talk now publicly yes yeah yeah the pacer back i think i'm back i'm getting my swagger back so i think we're back okay who we got tonight we got orlando tonight we're in orlando trick williams is coming chick williams coming to the game courtside so oh there you go oh really champion coming by uh obviously you when you were doing your nxt stuff you're down in Orlando, you said some things.
Starting point is 03:12:25 Have you heard from anybody over there from that side? Yeah, they definitely get at us a little bit. After they beat us last time, they put out my message with their Orlando Magic theme song. We'd like to get our lick back tonight. Okay, well good luck out there. We appreciate you, brother. Yeah, I appreciate you. I can talk shit, though, about Pacers being good, yes. For sure.
Starting point is 03:12:50 For sure. Even when things aren't good, you can talk shit. Okay, I appreciate you, Ty. All right, I'll see you, buddy. I didn't like that last line. Yeah, we got to do it. Yeah, he's... Yeah, but he knows.
Starting point is 03:12:59 The times weren't good early in the season. Now they've gotten good. There we go. So that's what he's saying. He can talk shit whenever he wants. Handicap a little bit. Self? Yeah. No.'ve gotten good. There we go. So that's what he's saying. He talks to you whenever you want. Handicap a little bit. Self? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:07 No. He's back. 35 and 14. He said, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. He's back. That's what he said.
Starting point is 03:13:13 I got my... That's what he said. Yeah. Great NBA breakdown, D-Butch. We appreciate that. All right, let's get smarter here
Starting point is 03:13:20 and then we'll wrap this beautiful Wednesday up. Let's go everything DB. Good D, bad D. Yes, sir. Everything DB. Good D, bad D. Yes, sir. A whole bunch of good defense today, starting with Carlton Davis Jr. out there in Detroit.
Starting point is 03:13:34 He had a fabulous game. Are these guys invisible? Okay, there we go. Coming over in motion. So, pre-snap, going to show single high, going to rotate to cover two, going to completely fool C.J. Stroud here. Watch Carlton Davis down at the bottom of the screen great patience you wait for this outrun when you are a flat defender quarterbacks they hate these outruns because if they are not on target if they're behind the
Starting point is 03:13:54 receiver these dbs in the nfl too quick cover a lot of ground and some of them actually have some good ball skills carlton davis jr being one of those guys lays out for it great great interception we got an even better angle from the tv copy here but once again late rotation so you so you show the quarterback one thing pre-snap he's about 10 yards off that lets the quarterback know hey i'm probably in the cover three cover four and watch how quickly he closes that ground when you're throwing outside obviously you can see the ball is a little bit behind that receiver, but he lays out and makes C.J. Stratton pay for it. Great, great play by Carlton Davis Jr. That would be so much fun to be able to do.
Starting point is 03:14:30 Yeah, absolutely. That would be so cool. A.J., wouldn't that be so cool? Yeah, it would. I mean, he's trying to get up and score, too. Oh, yeah. A.J.'s done this a few times. Yeah, with one hand.
Starting point is 03:14:40 Yeah, I've seen that. Big Ben. But, I mean, it's great to do it once. Even better to do it twice in the same game. So this is pre-snap communication. Something, if you pause it right here, with these tight splits, and if you are in a single high defense, which the Lions are here, DBs, a lot of times what we do is call radar, zombie.
Starting point is 03:14:58 So that basically says if my receiver runs across the field, that free safety, you dive down and take that crosser and I will replace you in the post typically that crosser is married up with the post from the other side the Texans do a great job here of marrying up that crosser with a corner from the other side so when you have that free safety diving down taking the crossing route that corner route from that receiver up top is running away from Carlton Davis down here so if you pause it here if CJ lets this ball go here it's a touchdown you just throw this to the end zone it's a touchdown once again DBs cover a lot of ground really really quickly so the longer you take the longer time you give that DB to cover grounds and once again make an amazing play on
Starting point is 03:15:41 the football and I mean they need to turnovers this game with their quarterback giving it away five times. And they got C.J. Stroud a couple times. So, once again, great, great play. It was there for the offense. I don't know what C.J. was waiting for. I mean, what C.J. Stroud was waiting for threw it late and Davis made him pay once again. Yeah, that saved the game. 13-23 at that point.
Starting point is 03:16:01 If that's a touchdown, the game's over. It should have been a touchdown, but huge, huge play. I mean, that's a long way to run. Long way. Once again, radar, radar. Hey, so they already communicated this. We get this cross out of these tight splits. You take it.
Starting point is 03:16:12 Usually it's a post from Tankdale. He runs the corner. You throw the ball, son. I let it go. Nobody was really in his face yet. I don't understand why he didn't let that fly on the run, but, you know, I'm sure he'll learn from it. He's got a thousand things to worry about.
Starting point is 03:16:27 Houston Texans are an interesting spot. They're now getting hunted by Anthony Richardson. Congrats to the Lions. You guys seemingly did. Good win, boys. I think they're worth it. Let's go to an OG, shall we? Yeah, an OG.
Starting point is 03:16:39 Tyron Matthew getting his 36th interception. 36th. That is a lot of interceptions in the National Football League. Right before the two-minute mark against a hot Atlanta Falcons team. As soon as we start giving their flowers, Kirk Cousins threw the game away with kind of an overthrow here. We talk about tips and overthrows, and if you run it back
Starting point is 03:16:56 to the wide copy, you can see this is film study. This is preparation. All the stuff AQ was talking about. Obviously, Tyron has played a bunch of football. As soon as he sees Kyle Pitts sit down, he knows option six. We saw Tyron pick this similar playoff in the Philadelphia Eagles a few weeks back in the red area. This is him now from the middle of the field.
Starting point is 03:17:15 As soon as he sees eight sit down, he knows the concept is coming behind, probably a dig. His foot is in the ground, anticipates it, breaks, and makes a great play. Another DB that has some great, great ball skills. You're going to get 36 interceptions in the NFL without it. You know, this is a hot Falcons team. Everything was going to shit in New Orleans. Got an interim head coach. You need your vets to show up to get that interim bump.
Starting point is 03:17:36 Matthew did. I couldn't imagine Honey Badger down there in Baton Rouge now that I've been there. Man. Man. During that run. I mean, he was... Hunter Turn, offense, defense. One of the greatest college football players ever when he was out there. Man. Man. During that run. I mean, he was. Hunter turn, offense, defense. One of the greatest college football players ever when he was out there. The way he impacted the game anytime he was on the field. Electric. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 03:17:52 Understatement. Yeah. Absolutely. Truly. Honey badger football, baby. And people wouldn't draft him. Bruce Arians is like, I'll fuck him. We'll fuck him. Have you seen him play football? I'll take over. Oh, he smoked weed. Okay. Spell who? Yeah, we don't want him in our building. Yeah, definitely, right? Nobody wants him in our building. Yeah, definitely, right? Nobody wants him in their building.
Starting point is 03:18:06 Yeah, get him to our fucking building. Another example of a young guy obviously made some mistakes, get to that pro level, figure it out. He went there with a guy that he respected and played in college with Patrick Peterson, who kind of set that tone at LSU. He was a great vet at Arizona. And he's been great since stepping foot in the National Football League. Another guy who's been great since stepping foot in the National Football League got his chance came in
Starting point is 03:18:27 as a college free agent we were teammates Kenny Moore obviously called his teammates out after this game two of the best slot defenders in the NFL was in this game with Kenny Moore and Taron Johnson on the other side you see that quarterback rolling out Josh Allen as soon as you see him rolling out if you are a flat defender you have to expand because you can expect a route being thrown to the sideline once again dbs cover ground quickly especially when you're throwing these out routes to the sideline you got to be on target you almost got to be early it has to be a ball where your receiver catches it or it goes out of bounce great great play i'm sure kenny moore would wish he could have stayed on his feet yeah made this a 2020 game if he runs his back.
Starting point is 03:19:05 But he secures the ball, secures the interception. I mean, great job holding on that thing as you're falling. And you give your offense another opportunity. But a great job by Kenny Moore in the slot, being that flat defender, expanding with the sprint out, and then making the play on the football. Two picks. Josh Allen threw two picks against Gus Bradley's defense. And, D-Buck, to your point about wishing he stayed up,
Starting point is 03:19:25 he was visually mad running the sideline because he knew he had a touchdown. Yeah, man. I mean, I've been in this situation. Like, you only get so many opportunities to get picks for one, but to make house calls, I mean, you only get so many chances to touch that paint as a DB. Great, great job. Great play.
Starting point is 03:19:39 We appreciate you, Kenny. Keep fighting. Get the boys going, Kenny. Get the boys going, Kenny. And then the other guy who started this game off. I'm sure you guys had a great view of this one, Terran Johnson. If you run it back a little bit, you see DeMar Hamlin up top. So it kind of looks like maybe it'll be split safety.
Starting point is 03:19:57 Maybe it'll be man coverage. DeMar Hamlin up top. He's splitting. I mean, I'm sorry, blitzing from the left side of the defense. Terran Johnson. He kind of maybe, I don't know what Joe Flacco's seeing. I'm just trying to make some shit up because Seven is right in his window. He's dropped straight back in the curl window as a slot defender should.
Starting point is 03:20:15 Settles his feet, reads the eyes of the quarterback. I don't know where else Flacco thought he was going to go, but got the ball. And just like Kenny, wish he would have did, stand on his feet. You get that ball, and any opportunity you get to take it in that paint, you do as a DB. Yeah, that was hard, right? To start the game off like that, first play, that was tough. But on the flip side of that, for a defense, at Buffalo Bills defense,
Starting point is 03:20:36 Terran Johnson has been phenomenal all year long. That's some great D. Hell yeah. Put it on the line. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Q. Good NBA talk. Hell yeah yeah good college ball talk yeah nfl talk yeah what are we no for ourselves no other people should do it for us we'll sit here
Starting point is 03:20:57 we'll sit here and we'll wait for others come here bone bone got a good question in yes he did We did wrestling I forgot Completely forgot We did wrestling Great wrestling talk Rumble's coming here baby Rumble's coming SummerSlam's coming WrestleMania's coming here
Starting point is 03:21:11 Huge Not this year But in the next I forget It's been a few years In a cycle Yeah Rumble in February Is going to be incredible
Starting point is 03:21:18 Huge So pumped up for that Actually Stadium's too Built for it Yeah You know like The stadium is Ready for it It'll. Stadium's too built for it. Yeah. You know, like the stadium is ready for it.
Starting point is 03:21:26 It'll be loud. It's loud. It's loud. It's going to be the loudest it's been in two years. No. You know that's true. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:21:39 You ask Josh Allen what his thoughts were on the loud house, he'll tell you the truth. I mean, they won 30-13. I know they scored 20 points, but it was tough. It was loud, though. Their people got real loud. Their people did get loud. I bet there'll be a bunch of Bills fans at the Rumble.
Starting point is 03:21:52 Probably. Probably will be. Probably. Shout out to them. Come on, Colts. Come on, Colts. Come on, your team. Whatever team you're cheering for, come on for your team.
Starting point is 03:22:00 Yeah. And let's stop with the 20-minute standing ovations. Sure. We tried to do a couple today. It's impossible. There's really no way you'd do's stop with the 20-minute standing ovations. Sure. We tried to do a couple today. It's impossible. There's really no way you'd do that. Let's just stop with standing O's. Just mean it when you clap the first time.
Starting point is 03:22:12 Yeah. Exactly. Just make it clap. What are they doing in Europe? They whistle, right? I can't whistle. Whistle is a boot. Clap is a boot. What is the... Isn't there something? There can't whistle. Whistle is a boot. Clap is a boot.
Starting point is 03:22:25 What is the... Isn't there something? There's a miss... Dogs all over the country listening to this show. Nick Sirioni just ran. Yeah. All you fuckers just whistle.
Starting point is 03:22:42 I'm trying. I'm trying. I can't do it. You can't whistle? You were correct, Pat. I learned when I was like 22. I can't do it. You can't whistle? You are correct, Pat. I learned when I was like 22. You can still learn. Fucking try.
Starting point is 03:22:48 What was that, Tone? Yes, people whistle to boo in England, particularly at football matches and when expressing disagreement with officials or actions. It's a lot of... One official ain't going to be officiating anymore, brother. Dude, they got some real shit over there. Did you see this? It's like out of a movie.
Starting point is 03:23:11 It's like out of a movie. AJ knows. What happened, Dump? Can you clarify? Because in my head, it's a movie scene. A video came out. It was from a couple years ago of an official basically saying that Liverpool shit. And he had some choice words for our old gaffa
Starting point is 03:23:27 jurgen klopp so now he's basically been kicked out of the premier league and out of the referees union but did he do anything to mess up a liverpool game yeah he might have fucked us out of a league title to be honest do we know if that's true or we're just saying there was like a v v ar thing he was part of like liver Liverpool fans are up in arms. Well, you never walk alone. Never do. Not even jerking. Top of the league right now.
Starting point is 03:23:50 Really? Top of the Champions League right now. How's Burnley doing? We didn't ask J.H. They won 1-0. They scored in the 95th minute to win it on the weekend. Oh, shit. How many total minutes were there, Goop?
Starting point is 03:24:04 96. Was it? I don't know how much extra time in the first half. Too much. Tell you that much. Probably 104 total minutes, if I had to guess. But one person knows how much time there is? Well, decides.
Starting point is 03:24:16 The times keeper. No, the ref. Head ref, I think. Who might be also considered the times keeper. Soccer's over now because Messi considered the times keeper. Soccer's over now because Messi's out, right? Soccer's over. Miss Sister.
Starting point is 03:24:32 Oh, Quincy. Yeah. McMahon. He's a stud, I know, right? Of the UCLA Bruins, actually won player of the Big Ten tournament. Hell yeah. Four assists, goal. They won the championship, obviously. Shout out Quincy McMahon.
Starting point is 03:24:48 Absolute dog. Hey, Mitt. Mitt, whenever you... I think he's on a delayed frame. He was like... Did we get that right? Four assists, a goal. They won the championship like five-nother. Is he in there? Is he...
Starting point is 03:25:02 Might be under the table. There he is. Oh, here he is. One. One, number one. She's number one. She's a dog, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:25:10 I've been watching her whole life. He live streams the games when they're on. Yeah, I was watching her. He's a big fan. Oh, yeah. It's awesome. That's cool. And whenever Coach McMahon was my coach, you know,
Starting point is 03:25:21 Quincy was obviously younger. She's in college now. He was like, I think she's fucking good. I think she's like really, really, really good. And she has a mentality. Obviously, she has a skill. And she won the Big Ten Player of the Tournament. Like, congratulations, Quincy McMahon.
Starting point is 03:25:37 That's awesome. That is awesome. It's amazing. Super dope. Neater on the U.S. Women's National Team. Yeah, neater. 3-0. UCLA's up over Rutgers.
Starting point is 03:25:44 Sorry about it. It's the Big Ten Championship. Yum. And that's a goal. Nice. Women's National Team. 3-0. UCLA's up over Rutgers. Sorry about it. It's the Big Ten Championship. Yum! And that's a goal. I do not know if that was her scoring. That's not her. That's her facing us. You know who it is. The left crossy there.
Starting point is 03:25:58 13. 19, I thought. Okay, sweet. Right there on the left. Right there on the left. Get the ball out to her, please. She's going to send it in. With perfection.
Starting point is 03:26:10 Go time. 4-0. Go home, Rutgers. Go home. You guys suck. Big 10. Rutgers-UCLA representing the championship. It's a new world.
Starting point is 03:26:21 It's a new time. Quincy McMahon runs the whole show yeah hell yeah before we get out of here we're gonna do a giveaway thank you Shipley why don't you do something for these people let's do it let's go AQ come on I believe the Kane winners got paid out in the last 24 hours that was awesome to see more people are saying thank you for it that's cool I will say that hasn't always happened no just millions of dollars given away and every once in a while you get a tweet saying
Starting point is 03:26:47 thank you it's like that feels good a lot more tweets saying I never fucking win he's just saying real fuck yep
Starting point is 03:26:54 it was nice to see the Kane winners this morning say hey you know what thanks for doing that and shout out to Kane making a big time shot yeah hell yeah
Starting point is 03:27:00 had to take off his gloves so he wasn't really him but sure cause Kane would have made it with the actual gloves without a doubt but kane buried shot people won 500 bucks now aq shipley if you put that football in that hoop right over there 30 people 500 bucks as we head into holiday season yeah royal rumble pre-sale tickets available now boom could win 500 bucks to do that aq why don't you make some dreams come true here on this glorious November 13th, 2024.
Starting point is 03:27:28 Oh, shit. That was the right line. And also, good throw. You weren't guiding it. That was just like, I'm going to spin this thing. Fire that thing. You look like Justin Herbert in front of Jim Harbaugh. It's coming out clean, isn't it? Beast.
Starting point is 03:27:43 Come on, Beast. Ty Schmidt has something to say to you, AQ, before you attempt this for 30 people to win It's coming out clean, isn't it? Beast. Beast. Beast. Come on, Beast. Come on, Beast. Ty Schmidt has something to say to you, AQ, before you attempt this for 30 people to win 500 bucks? Just fucking make it. I feel like it's been like four or five weeks now. We haven't made it. Maybe even longer.
Starting point is 03:27:55 I don't know. We're up to 50-plus throws, 100-plus throws where you haven't made it. Pat mentioned it. You know, holidays, Royal Rumble. Make someone's Christmas season. Let them go fucking see Punishment Martinez live in person at the Royal Rumble. Make someone's Christmas season. Let them go fucking see Punishment Martinez live in person at the Royal Rumble. Are you talking about Damien Priest there? His old name? The artist formerly known as
Starting point is 03:28:11 Punishment Martinez. alongside Rhea Ripley. Rhea Ripley currently out with an injury because of Liv Morton, who's been quite a menace. Yeah, legend. Thank you, Shipley. 30 people, 500 bucks. All you gotta do is put the ball into the hoop over there.
Starting point is 03:28:27 Oh, Jesus Christ. I mean, that was maybe your worst throw of the year. Yeah, that is so despicable. That was your worst throw of the year. Sit down. Go home. If that was the field goal kick,
Starting point is 03:28:36 would not offer a second opportunity. That was embarrassing. I tried to bank it. It didn't work. Bank it off what, the wall? Nah. Bank it off the backboard. Barres to me out here.
Starting point is 03:28:46 There's somebody in Ohio that has something to say to you, AQ Shipley, about maybe putting that football into that hoop right over there. AQ, I feel like if you put those readers back on, you'll make this shot. I saw, I got a glimpse of you earlier. You put them readers on and looked at the screen. You look like a male model. Look at you. Cool shoes.
Starting point is 03:29:03 Great khakis. Good three-quarter zip. Look at him. Cool shoes. Great khakis. Good three-quarter zip. Yeah. Four zip. Whoa. With the shades. Looks like bubbles a little bit. Sorry, ladies.
Starting point is 03:29:11 He's taken. He is. He's married with kids. This man. And now he can see the target. 30 people could win 500 bucks if this man, A.Q. Shipley, he's a former Super Bowl champion, can put that football in that hoop right over there.
Starting point is 03:29:23 Going into the holiday season. Oh, Jesus, too strong. Objects in the mirror. Closer than they appear. Guardian cap. Green Bay Packers helmet just got hit. Looks good. It's a tough throw.
Starting point is 03:29:37 That's what we're talking about with Mike Tyson, brother. Age. Yeah. Age kind of wins. Age kind of wins over everybody. Now, whenever I'm Mike Tyson, I'm not saying that's the case. But how old are you? 38.
Starting point is 03:29:50 Yeah, you can't put a ball anywhere near that fucking hoop. Haven't been able to for a long time. But on this particular throw, it's all going to change. You're never going to miss again, actually. Boston Conner has something to say to you, AQ, before you make 30 people $500 richer before going into the holiday season. I mean, look, you're 0-1 today because J.J. Watt fucking yammed on your face in front of everybody.
Starting point is 03:30:10 Oh, my God. Talking about strategy and practices and all types of things. But you can completely redeem that. No one's going to remember that if you make this shot right now. That's what we're talking about. You'll be a winner. What have you done for me lately? You'll be a hero.
Starting point is 03:30:23 Be a hero like Justin Herbert. Jeez. Looks like you're the opposite of a hero. What would that be? A loser. Zero. Loser. Big time loser.
Starting point is 03:30:39 This guy can't make a shot. 30 people, 500 bucks. Tone Diggs from Hammer. Todd. Todd. Has a message you'd like to send over me connor kind of shared sentiments there and and yeah jj did dunk on you but um did you ever think that you're missing all these shots because you never practice and you don't practice how you play and you have to play how you practice and you're never gonna make a shot again that's
Starting point is 03:31:00 right but it wasn't very that wasn wasn't. Oh, my bad. If you put the pads on and throw it, maybe you'll make it. Oh. Good idea. That's something to think about. We do have some pads over there if you'd like to put them on maybe next time if you continue to fail this time. Which?
Starting point is 03:31:14 It's our Peyton practice. 30 people. Bingo. 30 people. $500 of AQ Shipley, Super Bowl champion. You can put that football into that hoop right over yonder. That elbow here. Set hut.
Starting point is 03:31:23 Set hut. Oh, yeah. All right. Maybe try no laces. Maybe try don't looking. Yeah, maybe try anything but what you're doing. Maybe eyes closed. Yep.
Starting point is 03:31:33 Maybe do an eyes closed shot. Throw a lefty. Do an eyes closed shot. I think you should close your eyes. Yeah. 30 people, $500. If A.Q. Shipley can make this throw with his eyes closed. $3,000.
Starting point is 03:31:50 From Boston Corner. Oh! Oh! Look at that. Wow. Wow. Damn. I love that we put you in for $3,500.
Starting point is 03:32:04 What is that? $3,000. $3,500. What is that? $3,000. $1,500. $1.5 million? Yep, that would have been coming out of your pocket. Going into the holiday season. All right, AQ, is there any more balls out there? There is.
Starting point is 03:32:18 Nah, you don't deserve it. Yeah. Yeah, you don't deserve it. After that second throw. You got a 33 championship to defend, though. It's not all lost. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 03:32:28 You are a champion. This guy took the title out of town. Never came back. I heard. Just won, then boom. Said, see ya. Foxy went, what, lost, lost, lost, then won, and then had to get on a plane. Scumbag move.
Starting point is 03:32:43 Bingo. Smart. But he's champion. Yeah. That's just how it is. You know, just like we questioned someone. You know how long? Huh? You know how long I've been the champion?
Starting point is 03:32:50 How long? For a week straight. Okay. It's a long time. It's been a week straight. No missed days in there of you being a champion. Nope. I'll have you know, Fox went 19-20 yesterday.
Starting point is 03:33:01 I heard. That's the first thing DB said to me when he walked in. Finally found it. Hey, Foxy had that thing going yesterday. I haven. That's the first thing DB said to me when he walked in. Finally found it. Hey, Foxy had that thing going yesterday. I haven't had it in so long either. He was unconscious. I mean, we're talking not even close to the rim.
Starting point is 03:33:13 Yeah. Not even. Splash, splash. 19 out of 20 NBA threes. Now, that's warrant. Hey, Foxy. You complain enough, eventually you'll find it. I've been doing a lot of that.
Starting point is 03:33:27 Anyways, we got a battle. You don't have to worry about me in this game, buddy. You're down? Actually, no. Today's the day. New tooth. Let's go, Deebo. No tooth.
Starting point is 03:33:38 Fuck. Yep. Let's go, Foxy. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. NFL Week 11 kicks off tomorrow. Chuck Pagano will be here. We'll be getting ready to go down to Athens, Georgia for College Game Day for Georgia-Tennessee. That should be fun.
Starting point is 03:33:52 Awesome. What's that coming down the track? It's the main machine, the red and black. Ain't nothing finer in the land than a drunk, obnoxious Georgia fan. That was a banger last year. It's one of the best chances in all of... I don't even know if I can do it anymore because of what happened to the SEC championship. I do wonder.
Starting point is 03:34:11 Which I'm a little worried about. You can pick them on Saturday. You can do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, but we got three hours until then. You should just lead it off. I'm picking Georgia. I'm making my pick. Just so we understand. I'm picking you guys Who's that coming
Starting point is 03:34:26 Got to tell In the end Change Good old Rocky Top Hey Rocky Top Hey Who's your guys pick
Starting point is 03:34:38 Are they announcing Oh Has not been announced I wonder who it's going to be though It was Luke Bryan right Last time we were down there I think so. Called somebody a son of a bitch.
Starting point is 03:34:47 Mm-hmm. Who was he talking about? Cole? Mm-hmm. Luke was good, though. He knew his shit. And then he went and rocked a house. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 03:34:55 Yeah. I mean, know who it should be, actually. Fucking Jordan Davis, since they're playing on Thursday. Georgia, de-tackle, not buy dirt. Oh, buy dirt, boys. Yeah. We're down there in Bayou. Down there in Baton Rouge. And you can buy
Starting point is 03:35:08 dirt. That's a good song. It is. He's got a good beard. Had a good jacket on. It was so hot. I don't know how he had that jacket on. He's from down there. That's like D-Bone. D-Bone wears like four hoodies every day. I run hot. It's like, alright, D-Bone.
Starting point is 03:35:26 We have eyes. Well, you see him after every day And he's like I run hot It's like alright D-Bone We see We have eyes Well You see him after the show And he's sweating like a stuck pig It's like Take that off You'll be okay He had a beanie on
Starting point is 03:35:35 In Lucas Oil Stadium once Yeah Looked like a Hoodie Jacket Beanie It's like Did him
Starting point is 03:35:40 What are you Actual rapper Did you know where you were going What Who I thought it would be cold. I thought they were going to ramp up the. It's like, no.
Starting point is 03:35:49 You idiot. That's a champion. Oh, yeah. Damn right. That's my partner. Only team with a team name. What's their team name? The Fatso's.
Starting point is 03:35:59 They're really good. That's a good name. They are really good. How do we let this happen? I'd Foxy. I don't know. I'm still thinking about it. Look, it's been a week
Starting point is 03:36:06 and I'm still... That's exactly the reason why. I had three and a half hours of tooth construction last night. About the last hour and a half while I was all nitrous out of my mind.
Starting point is 03:36:20 D-Bone and Nakey shit. It's fucking 33. I even explained it to the doctor at one point. 33 is this game. You shoot NBA threes. You go around.
Starting point is 03:36:28 Then you got to play defense. And it's two and it's one. And the least talented team that has ever played this sport is now the champion because of me. I have to deal with that. They call them the fatsoes. They got us. Fatsoes are our champions. I'm surprised JJ hasn't heard about it yet.
Starting point is 03:36:43 I've been telling everyone in Phoenix. Basketball. Basketball champion. Basketball champion. Basketball champion. Shit. Let's get out of here. We're back tomorrow.
Starting point is 03:36:54 That just bummed me out and got me excited. Because we have an opportunity to right some wrongs, don't we, Foxy? 100%. I'm a little bit worried about how much pain I am in, though, in this particular region of my mouth. I've been thinking about this all week. Get some iBoo in you. I got Clay Thompson this.
Starting point is 03:37:12 Square shoulders. Bingo. Stay square. Square the hips. Kick the leg. Splash. Make the basket. Play good D.
Starting point is 03:37:21 Got to smack the wood. Yeah. Good tips. You guys. All right. Now that you're champs none of the now that we're not in the air but we're gonna allow the tips to happen right just wanna let you know that let's make sure we have at least that much room off the ground yes both of you you i jump i i have integrity when it comes to the tips i even called my own i couldn't even accept my teammates the one time. Okay.
Starting point is 03:37:46 Do you remember? I do. I do. And we weren't going to let you accept it, but I do appreciate the fact that you did that. But now that you're champs, you guys got to hold yourself to a different state. Yeah, it's a gentleman's game to a point.
Starting point is 03:37:56 Yeah. Like, you guys not defending it one fucking time all week, holding it hostage in a different city. Like, that's not how the game's supposed to go. But you guys do what you got. That's your your championship run and it's coming to an end today let's get the out here and do it foxy let's bury this i'm ready let's go let's go come on come on tom god i hope i'm making making shots today. Stay square. Stay square.
Starting point is 03:38:28 Don't fucking post him up, Connor. Yeah, sure. D-Botch, please. This is bigger than, you know. We can't have the fat, so it's holding titles around. We got to have something to compete for. Jesus Christ. Every week. That's true.
Starting point is 03:38:39 Good point. Every day. This guy just flies in and out of town like he's Bret Hart with the title. He thinks he's going to WCW. I don't think so, buddy. I don't think so. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life, except for the fatsoes today. Team on me, not you.
Starting point is 03:38:58 Yeah, you can. This is different. You had a good show. Thanks. You guys did too. Thank you. I hope you did terrible at that game today. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:39:07 If it's anything like my fucking shots, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm hoping that is an indicator. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you tomorrow. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye!

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