The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 125 - PJ Fleck, Ike Taylor, & Kyle Van Noy

Episode Date: November 1, 2019

On today’s show, Pat and the guys record pieces of the episode on the plane on their way back from Waco, Texas. The show is highlighted by three incredible interviews from this past week. First, Minnesota Head Football Coach PJ Fleck joins the program to talk about his undefeated Golden Gophers team, his relationship with holder Casey O’Brien and how his story has inspired him and the rest of the team. Coach Fleck also addresses the people who think his coaching style is phony or fake, all while giving one of the most incredible inspirational speeches you will ever hear and will have you eager to run through a brick wall. He also clears up the rumors that Minnesota didn’t agree to play a night game in next week’s tilt against Penn State, and talks about what it means to be ELITE in the Minnesota Gophers program (3:22-19:19). Next, 2x Super Bowl Champion and former Pittsburgh Steelers legend, Ike Taylor joins the show. Ike and Pat chat about everything currently going on in the NFL, who Ike likes moving forward as we get closer to the playoffs, why he doesn’t think Tom Brady is going anywhere this offseason, the mentality it takes to be a great football player, and why that sometimes doesn’t mesh with other people’s expectations, and what he makes of the Baker Mayfield/beat writer drama and whether or not he or his teammates had any situations like that while he was in Pittsburgh (22:29-33:34). Lastly, 2x Super Bowl Champion, and current linebacker for the New England Patriots, Kyle Van Noy joins the show for an incredible interview. He and Pat discuss what it’s like playing for the Patriots, how many people will never understand Bill Belichick’s sense of humor, the controversy surrounding Sam Darnold saying he was seeing ghosts against the Patriots, what makes their defense so special, and what Bill Belichick’s message is when they huddle together on the sidelines during games (35:23-51:45). It’s a fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's dive into it. Now, a story that I absolutely loved, a very much for the brand video, a very much for the goodness of the world video. The Minnesota Gophers brought in a new head coach pj fleck a year back a man who has nothing but energy and passion we got a chance to go into their facilities in minneapolis and they redid everything literally redid everything they got beautiful practice facilities they got a whole new state-of-the-art program everywhere and this man was the leading force behind it and it's paid off for the gophers

because now they're eight and oh and one of the darlings of college football ladies and gentlemen joining us now is their head coach pj flick well thank you guys thanks for having us on the show hey um coach thank you so much for joining us. I mentioned it a little bit ago. That moment with Casey O'Brien was very, I mean, it was riveting. The video piece that College Game Day did this past weekend was incredible. When I saw it happen live, it was awesome. A lot of people say P.J. Fleck is just a lot of hype, a lot of talk. Nothing's really genuine.

And to see you crying on the sideline with a player of yours that you gave an incredible opportunity to I think showcase that you're this genuinely passionate great head coach for the Minnesota Gophers what happened in that entire lead up there did you know that was going to happen did Casey know that was going to happen and did you know that the world was going to be touched as much as it was well it's a very touching story and if that story doesn't touch you I don't think you're a human being. And so for Casey, we knew that would possibly happen. We traveled on the Rutgers. We thought it happened earlier in the year. When we had Nebraska here, we had an opportunity to possibly make it happen,

and then the kickoff return got flipped and the fumble got overturned. So it wasn't meant to be there, but doing it at Rutgers was a really special moment for our players, a really special moment for our players really special moment for Casey you know his whole life he's been told he won't he can't he shouldn't he wouldn't um we're not going to allow you to in terms of playing college football and all this young man has done is defy every odd possible whether it's beating cancer four times whether it's being told he would never play football uh nobody can ever take away that he played Big Ten college football away from him, and I think that's something that's really important.

He's one of the most special human beings I've ever met in my entire life. For the people who obviously don't think however they feel about me, that's how they feel. They probably don't know me very well, so I really don't worry about what people think of me if they don't know me. But Casey O'Brien is the ultimate gopher, and he's what Row the Boat's all about. very well. So I really don't worry about what people think of me if they don't know me. But Casey O'Brien is the ultimate gopher. And he's what row the boat's all about. Coach, when I say this, I mean this, I didn't know much about you before we went into your facility.

And then the way we were treated by everybody of your staff was just first class. It's obviously a matter, a big reason why you're skyrocketing in this coaching profession and a reason why you've gotten the gophers to turn around so quickly you've motivated an entire state and organization there to get things going with Casey O'Brien by the way great hold I mean that was a good hold he turned that thing and everything I mean I think that should not go unnoticed there Minnesota yeah you would. You would definitely notice that, right? I mean, if it was somebody who could actually appreciate that, you would. And the second hold was even better because that one was on the ground

and he had to be able to find a way to make the hold. And that's the one you hold your breath on because as a parent as well, I have four kids of my own, and, you know, it's hard when you know that he probably can't be hit. He got that thing down the last thing i wanted him to do was yell fire that would not have made me feel very good would have made my heart drop but he's a great athlete he was able to get it down that's amazing uh the minnesota gophers also an amazing not only story of an amazing team right now undefeated you got penn

state traveling to minnesota I saw you chatting about having college game day visit to campus which after experiencing one college game day in Brookings South Dakota absolutely electric what is the team's mindset going into the game against the Nittany Lions who are also very very very good this is going to be an incredible Big Ten matchup yeah first of all you did an elite job last week I got a chance to even watch it and I appreciate you picking the gophers. You didn't spend much time on it, which I appreciate. I wasn't allowed.

They yelled at me for talking the time before that, so I just had to get a row of the boat in there. Sky, you ma. Yeah, listen, that meant a lot to our program, and we really appreciate that, and your gear was top-notch, man. I mean, you win the gear of game day lifetime award. But so you. But Penn State's one of the best teams in the country.

They're top five for a reason. When you watch them on film, they have weapons everywhere. Quarterback's playing at an incredibly high level. He's a dual-threat guy. And then they also have one of the best receivers in college football who does everything. He's kind of like Rondell Moorish, but maybe even faster. And they

do a lot of things with him. So that's their version of him. They have great running backs. Their offensive line is tremendous. Their tight ends are very talented. They've got three receivers who can really go and really run. And then their defense, they play 22 guys. They rotate in and out, and they don't miss a beat. They have depth. They've been there a long time.

They've been able to create depth and recruit at a high level uh it's a tremendous challenge for us and we know that uh but we love that it's a tcf bank stadium we love that we have them at home and we love that in front of our home crowd how the hell did you get this team to turn around so fast i honestly whenever we were in there we got a chance to kind of see the boys come together and i think some people left the program on their own part because they didn't want to buy into what you were selling but you and everybody that we talked to there said uh we got a good group of guys coming in we got we got our guys in here and to turn around there's no way you could have thought it was going to happen this fast i mean in that building it was very cool to feel like everybody was and this is rowing the

boat in the same direction. It really felt that way. Is that kind of the reason why it's turned around so quickly, or what has been the magic bullet here? Well, I don't know if there's any magic formula or any magic bullet. Programs either make a turn or they don't. Coaches either probably find a way to get extended or win a lot of games or they get fired, right?

I mean, it either happens or it doesn't't the one thing that we have is incredible people uh our staff is absolutely elite and i mean everybody from garrett chernoff our gm our operations our recruiting department our support staff our recruiting assistants our coaches we have incredible people and then our players are incredible people you know we have 85 players above a 3.0 gpa right now they get they get demanded to do what they do in the classroom just as much as they do on the field and vice versa they have over 1100 community service hours since january we challenge them to be champions and if that's what they really wanted they were going to have an enormous off season ahead of them and they took it head on it was a very difficult difficult offseason for them not in terms of like brutally hard it was just challenging that every day you had to find

a way to be better today than you were yesterday and that's hard for human beings it's fighting human nature every day and it's getting the right fit here i am not for everybody and i i am not going to apologize for being not for everybody I don't want to be for everybody I am going to be me I am going to be the best version of myself and the best coach and the best husband the best father as well as I want our players to be the same thing and our staff to be the same way and I'm not going to be for everybody and I think it one thing with me it happens very quickly if I'm for you perfect if I'm not'm not for you, you know very quickly that I'm not. And that's okay.

I think that's what happens faster than maybe if some coaches try to be somebody that they're not and they massage things here and there. And next thing you know, you have people that don't fit in year three, four, and then you're still struggling. So I think that's what we've done. That's how we've done it for seven years. We who we are and we're just very proud and thankful and very humbled to be at the university of minnesota man what a speech about life you just gave there not just coaching i mean that was an incredible some people just aren't going to like you that's just

the way it goes that's for everybody not just a head coach of minnesota but in life that's just the way it goes and by the way more humans are going to like you than not like you that's just the way it is. And by the way, more humans are going to like you than not like you. That's just the way it is. Keep it moving. Let's not worry about anything else. All right. I want to ask you about the word elite, because when we're in your building, if something was called elite, it was massive. It's like, Hey, this is elite. You told me my performance on college game day was elite. I got so excited just because I know how big of a word that is for your program. What is elite? Why are you guys elite? And why is that the most important word in the dictionary for Minnesota Gophers? First of all, it's a lifestyle, right?

And it's a standard. And my wife, Heather, always tells me what's the hardest part about being the standard is you're the standard, and you're always the standard, right? And so the Navy SEALs call themselves elite. It's a special part of the Navy, right? It's the elite of the elite. It's a special part of the Navy, right? It's the elite of the elite. It's a group that's just different. Now, we define elite as a necktie mentality, a pre-Fontaine face, and a farmer's alliance.

I know that doesn't make any sense to all of you, but a necktie is an organism that can flow through water without the water current dictating its behavior. So a great white shark is a necktie. It always attacks, and it's never full. It's never satisfied. So whether that's academically, athletically. It always attacks and it's never full. It's never satisfied. So whether that's academically, athletically, socially, spiritually, it's never satisfied. Navy SEALs can fight on land, water, and air. They are never satisfied. And they're the elite of the elite.

So we want them to have this always attack, never full mentality in their whole life. As a husband, as a father one day, as a student athlete, as a representation of the University of Minnesota. Then the pre-Fontaine pace is just we want them to do things urgently. There's no procrastination in this program, zero. Whatever you can do tomorrow, find a way to do it today, right? Don't put it off to tomorrow, no matter what. And that's what we talk to our players about.

And then the last part is the Farmers' Alliance, and that's about trust. If my farm is right next to your farm, your farm is just as important as mine because the seeds of corn are on top, and the wind will dictate what our crop is like. So you have to take care of each other, and you have to love each other, and you have to be very selfless. So that's what Elite is to us. I know it's a big definition. It sounds like all these fancy slogans and words and, oh my gosh, he's just a slogan guy. It's simple. It's just finding a way to be better today than you were yesterday

and fighting human nature. Coach, you just made me want to necktongue through a wall, bro. That was... Is that every day right there? Is that type of energy from you and just incredible motivational speed? I mean, literally, it is 10.15 right now.

I'm not running on a lot of sleep. It's his fall schedule. And I was ready to flip my table right there out of nowhere. Is this every day? Is that what you mean by every day the team is being asked to get better? Every day you have to show up with energy because every day you can either get better or worse? Yeah, because as a human species, we're lazy. We're like water, the path of least resistance you know we want to be comfortable you know we want to just sit back and watch television but our mind is the most powerful

tool we have and it's fighting that every single day and i'm a former sixth grade social studies teacher so i can get creative really quickly uh that's what i'm trained in and to teach you know uh 36 graders, ancient Rome, 30 different ways. And people always ask me, are you always like this? And I look right back at them and I tell them, like what? Are you always like this? You don't even know what they're talking about because I've been this way my entire life. I have energy. I have passion. I've always had a love for life. There's been good things that happened in my life, really bad things that happened in my life.

I know I have a purpose and a platform, and I'm going to use it to the best of my ability. But I am who I am. And like I said before, I want our players to be who they are. And they don't have to match my personality, but they do have to match the burning desire inside my heart, my soul, my spirit to be the best I can possibly be. And if you match me that, we'll get to know each other really well and we'll fit. If you do not match me that way,

you'll never get me, you'll never understand me, and we'll never fit. So you can be like Daniel Falele, he doesn't talk much. His personality is opposite of mine, but his internal drive to be the greatest player and person he can be matches mine and that's why we fit so well coach my god i need you if you are a coach right now which by the way you're a very very good one you've turned around programs it's what you do it's incredible to do in a very hard field to have success like you have had but you know you could probably go on a speaking circuit in the offseason and just rack, I mean, rack in cash if you wanted to. Well, Heather says I talk too much, so I don't know.

Help or hurt. Well, Coach, I can't thank you enough for joining us here. I feel like the people who don't get you are probably the same people that don't get a lot of good things in life. To hell with them and to hell with anybody if they don't get you are probably the same people that don't get a lot of good things in life. To hell with them and to hell with anybody if they don't come to the Minnesota Gophers college game day experience. Now, hey, okay, this is news that just broke this morning I have to ask about. You guys voided a night game for the Minnesota Penn State game.

Is that accurate or is that just rumor? No, we did not void that game. No, at all. It's completely 100% inaccurate. Okay, good. The way the Big Ten works, both teams have to be able to agree on night games, and you have to be able to match it up with television, but that is 100% inaccurate.

The University of Minnesota Golden Gophers did not turn down a night game. Okay. Hey, Coach, I'm happy you said that. I'm happy we gave you a platform to say that, and I can't thank you enough for coming on here, motivating the hell out of me this morning. And I can't wait to watch the Minnesota Gophers continue to succeed. Your hospitality to me and the boys was next level.

And thanks for joining us, Coach. Likewise. Anytime, guys. Row the boat, sky, mile, go Gophers. Thank you. Hey, elite convo, PJ Fleck. Okay. Hey, man.

Hey, I was about to go right there. Man, that was amazing. I was about to go right there. Man, that was amazing. I may or may not have indulged in some vitamins right before we got on. So I was in a little bit of a different headspace. And then listening to him talk, I just thought about being in the locker room, listening to him start to go in, and just being like, okay, man, let's do it then. He's like a drill sergeant, though.

Yeah. Right? The drill sergeant has to be like the part, whenever he's like the standard, when you're the standard, that's like a drill sergeant. We had a friend that went to our high school. Hilarious individual. He became a drill sergeant has to be like the person. Whenever he's like the standard, when you're the standard, that's like a drill sergeant. We had a friend that went to our high school. Hilarious individual. He became a drill sergeant for the Marines. And one of my friends got to talk to him like three years after he was doing it. I think he's still doing it like eight years later, by the way, or nine years later, maybe

10 years of that. And they're like, what's the worst thing about it? He's like, I have to be the perfect Marine. So he has to be the perfect Marine. He can't yawn. He can't eat. He can't laugh. he can't do anything in front of these humans he's just a complete perfect marine in front of them and he has to be angry that's probably what pj fleck feels like he has to be because he is the standard he comes in with a bad mood or has a negative feeling like his players are gonna be like oh okay that's what it's like that's like what being a good leader is

by the way is doing people who say do as i say not as i do the ones that do as i do as i do it are the better leaders you know what i mean i mean just what that's that's the difference right like beyond the x's and o's whatever like he's not that he's demanding excellence he's demonstrating it oh you know what i mean so his players want to emulate it hey we got a couple t-shirts here this morning he's not demanding excellence he's demonstrating do as i do as i do it yeah it's another one glad he cleared up that night game thing too yeah because that was a real rumor people are like okay this guy's asking for game day to come but he's saying we can't have a night game people are really saying that in the TV world. We're saying that the

Gophers voided that. I was like, I'm happy. I'm happy I asked. I thought I was going to kind of ruffle some feathers because I thought he was going to have to be like, well, we had to do it because of a noise violation. Maybe Penn State was just scared. Play at night and both teams have to agree. Oh, so he thinks... No, no, I'm not saying... No, no, no, no. I'm saying certain head

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joining us now is a man who's absolutely hilarious, legendary Pittsburgh Steeler, incredible on the Internet. You hear him talk every once in a while all over the board. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Ike Taylor. Ike, what up, dog? Hey, P-Mac. What's up, bro? Hey, I got my belt buckle, my bolo, and my boots on ready to kick today's ass, man. How you doing?

Hey, so what boy you getting on today, baby? Hey, listen, I'll ride that thing for nine seconds, too. You hear me? Ike, I heard you on Surf and Turf with Willie Colon and Stephen Chatt tell a bunch of stories. It was absolutely magical to listen to. I would appreciate everybody to go listen to that. I thought you were incredible on there.

Thank you, bro. Hey, no problem. I think every time you speak, it's awesome. What do you think of this Pittsburgh Steelers team? What do you think about the AFC, and why do you think they're only, why do you think the Colts are only favored by one against the Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend? Probably because

of Mason Rudolph and the Colts. They've been playing pretty good offensive and defensive-wise. I think Andrew Luck retired. Pretty much everybody kind of threw him under the bus wondering what was going to go on but as you can see they got a running game going and that's you know pretty much for the most part that's what you need in the nfl just look at san fran you know just look at the patriots when they need to they run so everybody's everybody

gets it what i mean by everybody, even offense coordinators. They just get so in awe on trying to pass the ball, having good stats. But by the end of the day, man, to make the playoffs, to keep your guys healthy, to keep your defense off the team, you got to be able to run the ball. And that's what the Colts been doing. They've been able to run the ball, and they've been able to run the ball effectively. And also, they're playing good defense. They try to get back to the old school, early 2000 midseason

when they had Mathis and the rest of those guys and Freeney. So I like what I'm seeing out of the coach. But at the same time, with the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's just a whole new ballgame. It's a whole new chemistry, P-Mac. I don't know. That's how I look at it. You got Mason Rudolph.

Juju is slowly but surely finding out that it's harder to be Batman than Robin. Yeah, you still got a young group at the running back position in Conner and Company, a tight end in McDonald. Whenever he's healthy, he's hell. You still have some young receivers. So the core is new. The nucleus is new. But at the same time, you can just tell what Mason Rudolph brings to the table.

He's just a different kind of energy. Okay, so I think the Colts are going to win by maybe 30, but that's neither here nor there. I'm a big-time fan of them, and I think their team is going to bounce back after a bad showing against the Denver Broncos. Let's move forward. San Francisco 49ers, that defense is winning them games.

You have to absolutely love that. I saw Ryan Clark hyping it up, friend of yours, teammate of yours. I would assume as a defensive player in the NFL, you absolutely love what the San Francisco 49ers have been able to accomplish. He's not even a coach, but you can just tell they're playing with his personality, and that's GM John Lynch. Okay. Anybody can just understand what they've been doing,

how they've been drafted for the past three years. They've been drafting a lot of defensive guys, high-round defensive guys. So when you have defensive tackles, defensive ends, and you see what Nick Bosa is doing with the linebackers, you go get Frazier from the linebackers, and you go get Richard Sherman, and your D.C. plays with your kind of personality. He coaches with your personality. You can just tell when John Lynch became a GM exactly what he wanted to do,

and he wanted to have a kick-ass defense, and that's what they're doing right now. Do you think that's enough to win it all, a good defense? 100%. We did it you know we we did it for about four years uh richard sherman and company when they had the legion of boom they did it for a couple of years um but with that with that defense you have to have a running game and that's what they have. Like San Fran have a nice, mean running game. I don't know what world Coach Shanahan is in right now, but, man, he's in the damn matrix. You know, just schematically calling up plays. He's taking it to a whole other level as far as, like, running the ball and how he's getting guys open to run the ball from zones, demands.

It's a beautiful thing to watch, especially as a defensive player because you're just sitting on the sideline when the ball from zones. The man's, it's a beautiful thing to watch, especially as a defensive player, because you're just sitting on the sideline when the clock is running. And also, I mean, they had Emmanuel Sanders, who's still got a lot left in the tank. I mean, did you play with Emmanuel? Man, picture this. Picture we had Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders,

Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown wasn't really even a starter yet, so it was Mike Wallace, Antonio Holmes, and Emmanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown wasn't really even a starter yet. So it was Mike Wilders, Antonio Holmes, and Emmanuel Sanders. After we got rid of Antonio Holmes, we used to call them boys the Bugatti Boys between Mike Wilders, Emmanuel Sanders, and Antonio Brown. So, yeah, we had a squad of receivers. And in practice, that had to be a nightmare for you guys. No, not really.

Hell no. You know we always up for the challenge P-Mac. Always go for the challenge P-Mac. You just knew you had to break your A game every time you stepped on that field with them three boys. Okay, another team that is very much from the Matrix. There's a guy named Neo who plays quarterback up there for the New England Patriots.

A lot of talk about him leaving after this year. A lot of talk of him becoming a charger possibly maybe a dolphin maybe testing free agency for the first time are the patriots defeatable this year that defense is better than i've ever seen it before for new england the defense is winning them games at this point and you know tom and josh mcdaniels can get a score anytime they need it. Whenever they need it, they'll be able to get it. Is that Patriots team beatable? Yeah, they are. How? I mean, all you got to do – I mean, Tom is Tom.

Like, you can't discredit Tom and what he's doing. I mean, basically he's playing with three receivers right now who played quarterback in college. Ain't nobody doing that but Tom Brady and making them look well. And if you want to put in a conversation between Edelman, we're going to keep talking about the Hall of Fame of what he's been doing in the playoffs.

Only time can get three receivers who played quarterback in college and make them standout receivers in the NFL. Only time. At the same time, all you got to do is look at the scope when they play the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills really didn't have a good offense at the time. I think Josh Allen got hurt, but the defense placed out against Tom Brady and company.

So if you just look at the record, I don't know if you got your guys, your stack guys that can pull it up. Just look at the record, the wins and losses, who the defense been going against. I don't think they, than Buffalo anybody would have winning record now so David David class some okay teams in the defense you can knock them you can knock them and coach Belichick is in charge of that defense so now you really see how much of a mastermind he is but at the same time man I want to see when they get into the meat of the schedule when they play good offense, what that defense going to do. But I can't discredit

what they're doing. They're playing lights out right now. Especially Gilmore, that cornerback. Do you think Tom wants to leave because everybody talks about how smart Belichick is? Do you think he wants to build his own legacy, or do you think this is all just a fluff? Do you think it's all fake? Yeah, man, I think it's a fluff, man. Tom don't care.

If Tom care what anybody said, you know what? Tom does care. I lied. Tom does care. And the reason why Tom cares is because he still plays with that chip on his shoulder from being a six round draft pick. In my mind, that's my opinion. So but him caring about what other people are saying about

him leaving and why he should leave and the brains of Coach Belichick, by the end of the day, Tom Brady's still got to make that accurate pass. By the end of the day, Tom Brady's still got to make that accurate check. By the end of the day, Tom Brady's still got to drive his team down to the field. So you can say what you want to say about Belichick,

but you can't discredit what Tom Brady does and what he does in the clutch. Okay, we got like two minutes left, and I want people to listen to Believe in Steelers podcast with Ike Taylor talking into a microphone. It's going to be incredible.

I can't wait to listen to it. Every time you talk, I enjoy it. Also, another guy, every time he talks, the world stops. Baker Mayfield, your thoughts on him rather quickly. He just walked out. How about this? Has a reporter ever wrote something terrible about you and then been a foot and a half away from your face the next day

and basically egging you on to get mad? No, they know better. See, at the time, the reporters knew better. The reporters knew if you're going to write something bad about Troy, James Harrison, Ryan Clark, James Ferri. If you wrote anything bad, your ass needs to stay out of the locker room. We definitely going to check you. But at the same time, P-Mac, we were so close in that locker room. If somebody wrote something, I remember somebody wrote something about James,

about Deebo, James Harrison. We boycotted that reporter. We wouldn't even look at him. Like nobody in the locker room. Hold on, though. This is the interesting thing. This guy that got Baker Mayfield to walk out of the press conference yesterday has been bashing Baker for two years publicly,

and now he's a foot and a half away from him, and everybody's like, Baker's acting like a child. I'm like, you know how hard it would be not to just want to slap a guy who's been bashing you publicly for two years and then he's trying to poke the bear with you? I don't think anybody ever thinks about the human side of things because he gets paid well, he's living a dream, so

he should be able to suppress his personal emotions from not wanting to slap somebody. I mean, it's a very interesting situation that nobody thinks about. Man, it's a thin line, right? See, they want us to be, and I don't know if I'm going to say this right, they want us to be angels. But to play this game, the mentality you have to have,

it got to be devilish. You know what I'm saying? You got to be a mean son of a gun you gotta not care you gotta have some pride you gotta you gotta have that i wish your mother would yep tell me or bring something to me that's that's just your mentality you know this piggyback playing in the league like you gotta have that chip on the show you so chip on your shoulder so when somebody been poking like you've been saying somebody been poking at you for the past couple of years when i see you with someone you you lucky so i'm looking at it like this from bank of mayfield

standpoint man you lucky i left because if i would have stayed i probably would have put my hands on you yeah so honestly i know me better than you i know myself better than anybody else so you know what let me go and don't leave man y'all gonna say what y'all wanna say because I've been knowing this guy and I finally get a foot and a half away from him. Man, I could've done it. Two-time Super Bowl champion, Pittsburgh Steeler legend, Ike Taylor. Believe

in Steelers podcast is available every Tuesday on all streaming services. Ike, I appreciate the hell out of you, man. Have an incredible, happy New Year's Eve. Thank you, bro. Thanks for the invite. Hey you, man. Have an incredible, happy New Year. Thank you, bro. Cheers. Thanks for the invite. Hey, no problem. Come back soon, Leo.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Van Noy. I like it. You forgot the two-time Super Bowl champ. Hey, that's on me. I should have put a little repeat on that thing. Hey, Kyle, thank you so much for joining us, man. Okay, so your team right now. Everybody talk going into the year okay tom brady's back

bill belichick's back the super bowl is on groundhog day it just feels like we're signing back into this but what has happened here the first half of the season is your defense has dominated the show i mean it has really stolen everything and um why is that if you had to guess what has changed from last year to this year you guys guys lose Gronk and somehow you get better. The defense has been dominant in games. What has happened over there? What has happened? Well, I mean, I think it's a lot of different things.

I think the biggest thing is the same group, most of the same group from that Super Bowl on the defense is back. We didn't really, we lost Trey Flowers, and that's about it. We gained more people. We gained a lot of depth. You know, you have guys that in the secondary, we have probably everyone in the secondary is a starter at places. We feel like every linebacker we have is a starter at other places.

And up front, everyone can start. And it's really, really impressive on the depth we have. But then we're just playing on a string. Everybody's tied together. Everybody knows their role. And I think that's a big thing when every year you try to find your role on whatever team you're on. But this team, we already knew each other's role before that season even started.

So now we're just trying to maintain and keeping it going. It's stupid to watch. It's dumb to watch because you have the greatest quarterback of all time with the greatest coach of all time. And right now the people that are stealing the show is your side of the ball. It's been awesome to watch. You with a little tutty, by the way, look very athletic.

Yeah. I have one pulled back too. Cause he tripped over my shoelace, which is weak, but we'll get it. We'll get another one. We got a lot. We got a lot of games left. We got a lot of football and a lot of snaps left and I'm excited. You know,

we're playing pretty good, and everyone's hyping us up for once because over the years that I've been here, everyone hates on the defense. We suck and all this, and now we're actually getting some love, but we're like, keep that same energy you had every year I've been here. And for us, we're just excited to get on the field because we've been grinding for this for a while, the same core that they've had.

And I'm excited to be a part of it. I mean, to go out there and you know you're going to score a touchdown or try to score a touchdown each and every game, that's our goal. And it's crazy when it happens and you get in the end zone, it feels like whoever gets in the end zone feels like you scored. Oh, I like that. Yeah. You guys do the group photo?

Do you do the group photo? Nah, no need to do that. That is the most Patriots answer I've ever heard in my entire life. Yeah, we don't need to do all that. I mean, other teams, that's their thing. We like to just keep it coming. We're going to be right back. That is incredible.

Bill Belichick gets his 300th win, third coach in history to do so. Yeah, that's crazy, bro. That is. At 67, I think he's turning 68 soon, how does he still maintain the competitive level that he has, the competitive drive, all that? I don't understand it. I'm always like, shit, bro.

You're still the same. You're like, he still has the same energy like he's 30, man. I didn't know him when he was 30, obviously, but he definitely acts like it. His energy each and every day is so consistent. Like it's never too high. It's never too low. It's always right here. And I respect that because you know what the standard is each and every day.

You know what bill you're getting each and every day. And that standard is high as shit, but you got to jump for it. Kyle, I think we just got two FCC fines from you. That word cannot... Yeah, Kyle. I mean, you guys are supposed to be smart football players up there. I mean, unbelievable.

Going to get a kick off the air. Boy, if you heard Bill Cuss, you would be like, what? And whenever we get to see Do Your Job in those inside looks at it, the next level think, is it the most in-depth football knowledge you've ever been around? Yeah, that's so good. You brought that up.

Yes. I mean, the level of IQ. Let me give you a quick example. I won't tell you what team we were playing, but it was before the playoffs a year ago. And he brought like five guys in the room before the game even started. And he picked something up on film. And he pulls the plays up in the big screen.

And he's like, look, here's a key. If he does this with his hand and his foot, you know what, it's a run. If he does this with, you know, his finger motion, you know, it's a pass. And you're like, what? And then you get on the field and you're like, yo, he's right. You know, and those type of things, like he's on his IQ and those type of things like he's so he's on his iq level is out of this world and to be in a meeting and then to like go back and forth with them you're like you know you're like i'm kind of smart too but his knowledge of the game and just learning from him each and every day is incredible.

I mean, he's taken stuff that he's learned from every place. And, you know, we were doing stuff that the Giants were doing a couple games ago back when he coached the Giants. And you're just like, you watch some, like, LT and some of those linebackers, and you're like, man, I'm trying to be like them. And then when you're able to do some of the things scheme-wise they're doing, it is sick. We just got to keep that going.

What an incredible advantage to have just a mastermind in there. I mean, granted, people that hate the Patriots are like, well, he cheated to do this, he cheated to do that. I'm like, it sounds like he just outsmarted everybody yeah that's it sounds like you just i think anybody who's ever been in a locker room and has ever played at a competitive level at higher levels like no that's just outsmarting humans that's what well here's another example because you're for the brand as you always say now we're talking cal yeah yeah um how about that um that punt display with the penalties oh did you did you peep that yes with the clock oh there you go that's his that's his

elite bro why other people are like boo like what is he doing he's over there on the sideline smirking by the way is that normal okay because we only see from the outside we only see him on sundays and then we see his press conferences which are legendary the the greatest press conferences in history smiling when he gave a smirk it was breaking news they're like uh bill bill belichick is enjoying life yeah is is that what he's like behind closed doors what is he like behind closed doors yeah i mean he he's definitely laughing a lot more and joking but you know he he gives you a little bull you're definitely going to get cussed out but that's okay because you know if you make some good plays and you know how to crack a joke yourself you'll get a smile from him so he keeps

it light and you know it's fun because you know you when people ask you about him, you're like, people have no idea who this man is, and it's pretty funny. No clue. He has a really good dry sense of humor, too. I mean, it's actually funnier than you think. Vinatieri told me that I would think he's a funny guy. That's what Vinatieri said. Vinatieri was like, you would think he's a funny guy. I'm like, damn.

I bet you if you did a poll of the guys in the locker room right now in New England, they would say that he's definitely funnier than you think. I couldn't even fathom it. Just being the best coach of all time, being hilarious, and trolling people on a very – like, he trolls people. Oh, yeah. He trolls people real good, too. Yeah, the press – I mean, those press conferences are like must-see television at this point.

It's the best internet around whenever he lets somebody know that he has not got time for that dumb question. And most of the reporters are tripping, and they're like, oh, is he going to say something? Like, is he going to get asked? Yeah, like you raise your hand, right? You raise your hand for a question, and you're like, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God.

It's like you're that kid in school, you know, afraid to ask the teacher a question. Exactly. Yeah, that's awesome. You got something to say? So what's the message when you're up 24-0 and he's got the defense huddled on the sideline? What is that?

You know, there's a lot of messages. It's more like if you let them come back y'all are going to run more on Monday I can respect that hey listen up we're doing okay but if they come back at all just know what Monday is that's a hilarious thing

I think it's just a reiteration you know just re-talking about what the goals were before the game and to keep honing them in. Don't give them an inch because you don't want to give them life that they're still in the game. You just want – he always wants to – he's very, very detailed.

So he always wants you to put your foot on the gas, never let up. You never get comfortable and never get satisfied. And I think those are what those talks are for more, not necessarily always scheme when sometimes they are, but it's more get everybody focused on the task at hand. It's still early, and we still got to go. Okay, so they talk about how the patriots you guys sorry for doing that but how you guys shift your game plan week to week how each week is a brand

new season what does that mean like you guys are just have the capability to shift from a tampa two team to a three four to a four three team you have the ability to do all that yeah and you know everyone talks about having stars you know player a bunch of sacks or a bunch of tackles and you know we pride ourselves on being able to adjust better and better than anyone else in the business and if you watch um i mean i don't i don't mean to bring it up, but a prime example is the Super Bowl when we switched basically our whole defense in the game and we went more strictly to a cover four. And people, you know, they're confused. That's why they never understood the entire game.

You know, we thought they would adjust a little bit. They never did, but we changed our defense. 28-3 happens when that happens. Exactly. And so when we're able to do that and the high-level elite football players that we have, I believe we have some of the highest IQ players. And when you're able to get a group that you can put them in this coverage this week, and then I can throw out an entire different coverage,

a different front, a different scheme each and every week. You can't have a team that can pinpoint, oh, they're going to run this. They're going to run a 4-3, and that's it. That's the system. You never know what you're going to get three and that's it you know that's the system you never know what you're gonna get and i think it's impressive okay so i've been in that uh locker room halftime right and i've heard some defensive coordinators be like we're getting beat by this we're getting beat by this but at the halftime of the super bowl matt patricia and was matt patricia there yeah matt no no it was b flow b okay-Flow. That's on me, B-Flow.

I would like to let Mr. B-Flow know, Brian Flores, that that is on me. I'm going to call him B-Flow forever, by the way. Coach B-Flow got in a ref's ass last night. I like that. I know. I was like, oh, I've been there before. Okay, so B- Pause on that part, but you.

Yeah, I got it. Yeah, you're right. So B-Flow and Belichick come into that meeting come into that halftime locker room and they go listen this is what we're doing and everybody just has to like kind of have that attention where they're like all right we were doing this now we're going strictly to a cover four and there's no like panic there's no nothing there's like this is what we're gonna do because i've been in locker rooms where the defense coordinator is yelling at somebody and you know something to have the complete opposite effect where it's like, hey, listen,

didn't work out well there. We're down 25. We're going to have to do some things. We're going strictly to a cover four. And everybody in the locker room was like, yep, let's do it. That's insanity. I mean, it doesn't necessarily work like that because we practice everything. So it's more like we're able to mix it up and then see what works.

And we're able to stick with that. Got it. You know, we have, we have our identity. Um, now I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell people cause we got to let people figure it out.

But if you ever do want to just tell everybody what your identity is, though, please come back and just, just let it all out. Maybe after, maybe after the year. There go perfect perfect perfect but like like i was saying just to being able to always adjust and you know like you're saying if we need to run cover four we can run cover four but then if we need to throw in a cover zero we're able to throw a cover zero and then let's come back with the cover two and people are like and then you put the disguise of

two safeties that have been the nfl for a decade i mean quarterbacks are back there like okay cover two is it you know cover zero like what we Say, hike. Okay, there's two safeties back there and three people rushing. You know what I mean? So that's the seeing ghosts. That's exactly what he meant by seeing ghosts. That's exactly what he meant, though. Is that exactly what he meant? I think so.

I don't know. I still can't believe he said that. I do think it's messed up that they signed off that he said that. Because, oh, man, I'd probably be pissed if someone did that to me. Steelers and Dolphins said nobody could be mic'd up last night. They said, no, we're not doing it. Really? Yeah, mic'd up is a real problem on the sideline for people that don't know.

If you're mic'd up and you walk up to somebody and you don't tell them that you're mic'd up you're a terrible person it is not something that yeah you're a bad person for sure a bad bad person yeah and you might get jumped later but the fact that they let that out was insane to me i mean they buried him they jacksonville jaguars mascot wore a ghost costume the entire this last weekend he's gonna have that forever well i saw one of the corners there i hope you're seeing ghosts because i need some pics hey kyle that's a compliment to your defense though i can't thank you enough for coming on here you're so cool man i think you're even going to be able to make the patriots likable to some people that are listening that hate the Patriots.

I mean, that's just the way. I know, like yourself. So I appreciate it, bro. I'm for the brand. If I was a punter, I'd be for the brand, too. I'd be like, this one's going deep. Ladies and gentlemen, two-time, two-time Super Bowl champ, All-American Kyle Van Noy. Thank you, Kyle.

Hey, you were awesome, man. You were absolutely awesome. Thank you. Appreciate it. Same to you, man. Good luck. Appreciate it. Doesn't need it, by the way. Did you hear that? They're never going to lose. Thanks for rocking with us this week.

Zito's awake. Foxy's editing. Ty's back there just eager to put this entire show together here. It is 12.50 a.m. Central Time, 1.50 Eastern Standard Time in this beautiful Friday, November 1st. Nick Miraldo is sprawled out on a couch living his best life. And every single week, whenever we're wrapping things up, I can't help but just thank every single human that has got us to this point.

If you listen to this show, we're very thankful for you. If you follow along on any of our social medias, we're thankful for you. If you watch our shit on YouTube, we're thankful for you. Just know that we're very grateful and we'll continue to work our asses off to hopefully continue to entertain the hell out of you. Tomorrow, I'll be on College Game Day yet again in Memphis, Tennessee. I have no idea what I'll be doing on there, but I'm honored and privileged and can't wait to get to Memphis and experience the Tigers on Beale Street

in the environment that will be College Game Day with the living legends, Kirk Herbstreit, Reese, Desmond Howard, Lee Corso, David Pollock, and that entire crew, his first class, state of the art. Can't wait to be there. The train keeps on rolling. This fall has been a magical one. Zito will be picking out his favorite costumes from yesterday. Look for the internet to find that, to find the $500 gift card to our store. Today, we just want to send positive thoughts and love. So tweet us your favorite quotes about life to continue to motivate us through this grueling schedule.

We're enjoying it. We hope you are as well. Ty Schmidt, let's have the greatest weekend of all time. Play some independent music. Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you.