The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1250 - MNF Recap, CFP Predictions With Heather Dinich, Chiefs DT Tershawn Wharton, Aaron Rodgers, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Harbowl on Monday Night Football as the Ravens beat the Chargers 30-23, and John Harbaugh moved to 3-0 against Jim. Joining the progrum to break down tonight’s projected College Football Playoff bracket and the all the chaos that ensued on Saturday and all the chaos that could still be ahead is ESPN College Football Writer and Insider, Heather Dinich. Later, Defensive Tackle for the Chiefs, Tershawn Wharton joins the show to chat about catching a young Chiefs fan who fell over the guard rail at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, why the Chiefs win so many close games, and if this Chiefs team feels different than the last two Super Bowl teams he’s been on. Later, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, and Quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about going back to Cal and seeing a lot of his old teammates to celebrate Coach Jeff Tedford, and to respond to all the reports about him in the last week including that he wants to play next year, but not for the Jets, potentially being placed on IR or released, his reported relationship with Woody Johnson, and his memories from playing on Thanksgiving. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people! Happy Thanksgiving week and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome! On this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday November 26, 2024 this program starts now! Football! It's wonderful we have news all around the football world and in the second hour, about an hour from right now, Aaron Rodgers will join us fresh off of bye week where he went back to his alma mater Cal over there in the great city of Berkeley, California that I got a chance to visit and they had a reunion of such he was around Dashaun Jackson and I believe more Sean Lynch was there and I assume a bunch of dudes that I have never heard of that He got to see I can't wait to catch up with him about that. And then while he was doing all this stuff, you know There was just a barrage

of reports about Aaron Rodgers. Might go to Howard, it's got Mike Getcut, he wants to play in 2025 but no for the New York Jets him and Woody Johnson have a strange relationship, no him and Woody Johnson had dinner in the city a couple weeks ago. So many things just one thing after, can't wait to ask him about it. You know can't wait to chat with him and obviously he wasn't on last week whenever a general manager was fired because they were in the bye week and they're wrapping up practice and heading out so there's a lot to catch up on and I'll be excited to see his thoughts on what the rest of this season looks like for the New York Jets and for himself and also what the future of his life looks like I today

should be a good one Heather Dinnitsich will be joining us in about 19 minutes or so. She obviously massive college football voice. Last week whenever she came on and she talked about a three loss SEC team getting in over a one loss Big Ten school potentially. That's kind of what she chatted about last week. It had massive reaction. I mean you're talking about everybody on earth responded to that especially in the Big Ten and now after what happened in the SEC this past weekend and what happened in the big ten with the Ohio State Indiana game I'll be excited to see where Heather's at Heather is rock star in this college football world dialed in

and the only reason why I obviously I've seen her on TV and I got massive respect for the work that she does for college ball and everything never got to work together every time she comes on our show all the clips oh yeah while far hey Heather Heather moves the needle. Whenever Heather's talking college ball, people have opinions and she sits in a pocket and she's excited to chit chat about the future of the college football season that's happening and I can't wait either because tonight, 7 p.m. Eastern, the college football playoff reveal show. It's a ranking show right now until it

becomes a bracket show after the conference champions have been decided. Because remember this bracket is so dependent upon the conference champions because conference champions all get a first round buy. Now do you want a first round buy? Do you want a first round buy? Do you want three weeks off instead of two weeks off with a home game potentially?

And do you want to maybe erode like the five seed will have through however it goes, the lowest seeded teams potentially to get all the way to the semi-final now that doesn't mean the team can't upset another team we saw a lot of that Throughout the not only college football season, but more specifically this past weekend Which is why college ball is the greatest which is why? Having a 13 person committee have to figure it out good luck to you can't wait to see where you stand this week Yeah, now a couple times they've contradicted themselves I think what the decisions that they've made.

But how could you not, whenever teams showcase a new side of themselves? Whenever a team shows themselves to be incredible and then they show up and stink, I'm assuming that human instinct is gonna be like, well, actually, this team's been a fraud all along. When other people in the room might think to themselves, well, they just had a bad day.

So then 13 people have to figure that out. They're obviously always gonna contradict each other. Every time strength of schedule is brought up, I think there's going to be like football judgment that's going to be brought up by a couple people too. Think about you sitting around 12 of your friends. Let's say you and your friends get along very well. Same hospital board.

Sure. Oh yeah. Same neighborhood, same schools, same teams, same everything. You and 12 of your friends, same schools, same teams, same everything. You and 12 of your friends, 13 total, have to sit down and decide 12 spots for anything. Let's say best cereal, best food, college football teams, NFL teams. There's gonna be a lot of disagreements. So how they get to a final answer whenever this really matters? Good luck. Good luck. Yeah, have fun. Good luck. Thank God we are not there. I guess there is something.

Ladies and gentlemen, nine year NFL vet, Florida Panthers fan who's the reigning defending undisputed Stanley Cup champion, Florida Panthers. Darius J. Butler is joining us. D-Butts, you got a text from somebody last week, right? Whenever we were talking about this. Yes. I guess media goes and does like a mock

college football ranking thing, right? Yep. So you see exactly how the committee gets to those different teams. They bring some sports people in there so that, you know, obviously we can get out and talk about it. I respect that they do that, but it's not about the process. It's about the people. So like whenever there's media people in there, how they think it's that could be, I mean, it could be similar.

Could be lucky that everybody in there thinks the same way as athletic directors from Michigan and athletic directors from the ACC. And I think there's a former player in there. I think there's a couple of coaches in there. Them all agreeing on something. I have no idea how they do it, but I can't wait to judge the shit out of them

whenever I think they get it wrong. I wish we could just see that. Yeah, let us in the room. Just let us in the room. Let us in the war room. Go through it, have commercial breaks. I'm sure you can sell that for millions and millions of dollars.

So I wish that would be absolutely entertaining. Yeah, but just like Hard Knocks off season, I don't think they want too much access. True, and want people knowing how soft it's getting. I don't think one of the AD's wants to go, you're telling me the ACC is gonna have two teams in there and then all of a sudden on the other side, yeah, they've got a couple good,

is the SEC that powerful with all that? And then somebody else comes in and goes, Oklahoma just beat Alabama. Okay, I don't wanna, I don't wanna, Auburn just beat Texas A&M. Auburn stinks. That's what, no, I don't think this. I'm just telling you, this is hypothetical.

It's a hypothetical situation in this entire thing. Auburn stinks. I mean, they're not even good. They beat Texas A&M. Now Texas A&M, just because they beat Texas, who hasn't beat anybody, actually only lost to the one team that they played. They get in the SEC Championship.

They have two losses. Now they're in the SEC Championship. Taking on who? Georgia, who has what? Two losses in there. So now one, three lost team is gonna get it. They just lost to Auburn. This team just lost.

What do we even, how that's the whole shebang. That is the whole- Even now you lost. Does that make the big 10 look weaker now? Cause you just got old state Oregon up there, but then everybody, I mean Penn State too, but well, it's a lot of questions. There's a lot of questions.

And Heather Denich is going to give us all of her answers. Can't wait. Thankful she's doing that. Thankful she's doing that. Thankful she's doing that and then Tershawn Wharton who's a D tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs uh five years from Missouri State. He um he saved a kid's life this weekend and uh we caught wind of this obviously on the internet yesterday shout out to t underscore russ uh Bolton fan chief fan ink oh oh oh Tershaawn Wharton catches him. Catches that kid that just fell off that balcony,

head down, head down. That kid's going head straight down there. Now obviously, security guy loses his mind after the kid falls. So like, you know, obviously, let's maybe tighten that up a little bit. I have no idea how there isn't a railing there all the way across anyways.

Who knows when the stadium was built? Who knows what rules are? But yeah, boom, grabs him, catches him. Tashawn Wharton, he'll be joining us at 1250 Eastern in the middle of his meetings. Obviously they play on Friday, but we reach out and said, hey, is there any way we can get a word from a guy that just saved a life potentially after a game

and also got a glove? And this kid, shout out to this kid. Hey, he was going for it. He was going for it. Now hopefully he'll learn a lesson from this entire thing, but him coming back up too with the glove going, thank you. All right The kids a dog I assume that kids gonna go and do great things can't be obviously throwing himself over balconies or ledges going forward

I love if you got a glove Got caught from Toshan Warden We'll chit chat with Toshan in about 40 minutes or so. I can't wait to hear his thought What was he thinking? Cuz I mean, fast act, there's another security guy down there. And Trashon reaches around and does that entire thing. It's like classic dad reaction. Dad, uncle just, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, foot under Mackenzie's head whenever she bobbles

has been like kick-saving a beauty. Like I really, I feel like a superhuman whenever it happens. I'm like, oh, foot under there, her back of her head hits your foot. It's like, did anybody? Camera anywhere? And then I look at Mackenzie, I'm like,

love you bro. You know what just happened. Pick her back up. She's at the, she's very confident, but then every once in a while loses focus. So then she's drunk baby, drunk toddler, pretty much walking around. And she'll even do like a lean on one leg

and then bring that bitch back to center. And I'm like, you know what? I like what you're doing out there, Kenz. And she'll fall, she'll wipe out. And then she's right back up It's all about how you react the parents. Okay, you know get up. He's popped right back up. Oh, yeah, then it's uh, oh Yeah, everyone's like you blink she's gonna be flying around the house. It's really hard not to do the full For some of these months a little girl. Yeah, whenever she starts falling, and then the foot, the reach of the foot to get her,

it's like while she's falling, though, I don't want to overreact because I don't want her to panic either. But I am. I am certainly panicking. You've got to soften it. She's so fast, too. She's starting to move. That's like every morning now, it's just like her footsteps

coming down the hall. Just the thing. So cool. We can talk about that. We don't have to. Ladies and gentlemen, Baltimore Ravens win in the hardball Harbaugh versus hardball Jim Harbaugh say I lay my life down for my brother, but not a football game

Oh, yeah, he's gonna have to come and get it. John Harbaugh says the same exact thing about Jim You're talking about a family that has had a lot of success and is still very very tight with each other I think they're still learning from each other, obviously hiring from each other. If you're good enough for one, you can obviously come work for us. We run ship the same exact way. Jack Harbaugh taught us the exact same.

The fact that the Baltimore Ravens go in there and cover with 70 what? 70%. 70% of the money on them. The entire Hammer Band podcast picked them. The entire Monday Night Football Countdown crew picked the Ravens. I was on the Ravens because A.J. Hawk and I

had a one game disparity this weekend. He picked the Chargers, so I was gonna pick against them regardless, but once I started watching the game, I'm like, hold the phone. I got forced into picking the Ravens. Chargers go early, take a big lead, and then it was just like a matter of time. Now, that one, they took their time.

I think they should have maybe challenged that particular one. I don't know if Mark Andrews had his right foot down, I think with the ball bobbling, but then Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry, this offense starts doing their thing. And the over hits, it was a high scoring affair. But what happened was the Baltimore Ravens

showcased once again that they can win. And that's a high school Lamar Jackson move. We all saw number seven from Boynton Beach. This internet clip took over the entire world. And then I think I saw this clip for a couple years and didn't know it was Lamar. And then somebody said, hey, this was Lamar, by the way. And it's like, of course that was Lamar Jackson. And then he does it again on Monday Night Football.

So almost felt like it was going to happen as he's running there in my mind. And Lamar's still doing ridiculous shit So nonetheless congrats to the Baltimore Ravens Oh, yeah, I'm getting a massive win over the Chargers D, but you watch that game. What's your big takeaway? How the Ravens are the Ravens Bill said it on the show yesterday Like it could be any team in NFL multiple touchdowns if they stay out of their own way and obviously got off to a slow start I think up until his two-minute drive before the half, Lamar had like two completions. Obviously you saw Derrick Henry would get rolling and I was kind of concerned honestly once the

Chargers jumped out because that's kind of been their MO. They jump out, they come out great, 10 points, get a two-score lead and then they just kind of start folding. You definitely saw they definitely need a big-time separator out at wide out. You just need that guy. And Justin Herbert, he can do so much, but you need that guy. Quentin Johnson with three drops late in the fourth. I don't want to say everybody's talking about him. He had a tough, tough night. He had a tough night on the internet too.

And that's what happened. Remember, he'd been doing some great things for the Chargers this season thus far. I don't think a lot of people have seen that. The only things people see is with eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter, you have three drops. And it's a one score game We need you to make those type of plays

I don't think I've lost faith in the Chargers No, no everything that they're building anything that they're building over there But I do think it was nice for the Ravens to say hey, let's remember here Okay, we were one punch out away at the half yard line last year to go into the Super Bowl instead of the Kansas City Chiefs Now Lamar Jackson against Pittsburgh Steelers, which we just witnessed, you know, he hasn't, he hasn't bowed well against Lamar Jackson against the NFC though. He's voted very well against in a team that he doesn't get to play much. He's played very well against. So this particular team, if you think about the playoffs and everything going late, it's like maybe the

Baltimore Ravens, this is the year and he can't help but overreact that way on this particular Tuesday after watching them do that last night in the Harbaugh Bowl. Yeah that was kind of the big takeaway it's like okay the Ravens are very legit for one and they have a chance to go and do the entire thing because their defense of course is great you know Deba mentioned they got out the Chargers to you know a ten point lead and then they kind of settled in no Roe Kwon Smith still didn't you know still made point lead and then they kind of settled in no Roquan Smith still didn't you know Still made it happen without him and then even after that last drive like they did score

23 points, but really after that 10-nothing lead they they shut it down and you know that touchdown right there It was kind of the entire thing for me is you know, Derek Henry goes out of the game Derek Henry obviously went off especially in the second half. He really got rolling and then it's almost like okay Hey, Justice Hill is it we can kind of relax a little bit Maybe Lamar runs the ball, but if Justice Hills and we don't have to worry about the run game and then boom He rips off a 60-yard touchdown run So it's one of those things where they can beat you in so many different ways likely didn't have a massive game He's someone that could easily go off at any time mark

Andrews obviously had a touchdown later on. The ref called it no touchdown Clearly a touchdown. It's very odd I don't know if these are the same exact refs from the Sunday Night Football game as well where they had a couple suspect calls but it did feel it did feel as though the solidifying like okay the Ravens can win in primetime they can win when they're losing and They are definitely a contender in the entire thing Yeah And I think if you think about what you need in December and January to win,

obviously make a place for the quarterback Lamar Jackson who is an anomaly has been since he started playing football. I mean he's just so fast so quick boom he's out of there and as professional athletes you know the whole thing. A record pace right now. Yeah unbelievable. Seven yards a play. Yeah so Hembo sent over a bunch of stats about this Baltimore Ravens team. One of them though, was about the running backs. Yeah, okay, let's stay with this one.

So right now Lamar Jackson, 94th percentile in interception avoidance. Okay, not throwing picks. That's true. Yeah. Okay, I don't know what 94. The easier way to say it. Yeah, he's not throwing picks.

88th percentile in sack avoidance. He's not taking sack Okay, that's a mature quarterback. He says hembo Not throwing pick not taking sacks not having negative plays that feels like it's smart decision then Ravens were four six on third and short Yesterday 77 percent on the season highest in the NFL. That's a Derek Henry effect Let's go to the leading rushers right now in the NFL. So obviously it's all about Saquon, you know, Saquon in the full game, he has 1,392 yards. And then just in second halves, he has 920 yards.

He'd be the fourth leading rusher in the NFL. But look who's number two right there. Derrick Henry is the second leading rusher in the NFL right now. At this age, at this time with this team. Now we had the reaction immediately because we've seen the Tennessee Titans. We've had to play against Tennessee Titans.

We've watched Derrick Henry play football. As soon as he goes to Baltimore, we go, that shouldn't be fair. That should not be the matchup. And then he obviously had to hear that he was washed and that he couldn't do anymore and that running backs were being devalued and everything like that.

He goes for 140 last night, but you're talking about a safety valve for this Ravens team. You know, whenever they get in the game against the Chiefs last year and they forget to run the ball against the Chiefs in the playoffs, you got Derek Henry on the team. You're not going to forget to run the ball. Like Derek Henry is going to get the rock, you would assume. Now at the beginning of the year, Coach Arbaugh said, we're not going to give him the ball 30, 25, 30 times a game.

Then he realized Derek Henry can get the ball 25 times and we can be a great spot That is the difference maker. I think for this Ravens team first years pass Patrick Ricard can obviously move people I love when JK Dobbins was able to play healthy there a few years back But having Derek Henry be the style of running back that he is and how good of a running back that he is is a Perfect fit for this Ravens team, but also might be the answer to their playoff needs or woes back in the day. Yeah, that's something. Now we know Ravens have been a physical ball club throughout hard balls tenure, but they've never had a back

to your point as dynamic as him. And all those fourth downs they went for like fourth and one, it was almost as inevitable as that play. And he, just like Saquon, those second halfs that, Derrick Henry throughout his career, he's's weighed on you he kind of changed that Tennessee Titans franchise like they became that bruiser because of 2-2 and what he's been able to do back there I think might have been Mena Kimes on the lead-up show to Monday Night Football talking about Saquon going to Philly almost been like

a KD joining the Warriors and you can say the same thing with Derek Henry you know jumping in that backfield Lamar. And in terms of their playoff woes and like what they need like if they get up 10 13 points on someone and they're really worried about their secondary like hey We we don't want to get bombed on like they can run a ball control offense with him and just grind people out like I Don't think we're gonna have the same situation we had in the AFC championship where they just abandoned the run because they have Derek Henry now like you're not gonna abandon the run if you have Derek Well, and they should because that's been their issue is holding on to leads in the fourth quarter And they should do that, but I believe they are undefeated when he gets 20 carries this season Which yeah, you know they they obviously didn't last week worth the Steelers. They didn't early in the season

So yeah, if you just give him 20 carries It's almost like they're gonna they're gonna win the win the game and then you put Lamar on a fast track last night like Lamar on turf Again, it Ravens reminded people. Yeah, we lost last week. Who cares? Like that was a division game It's hard to win divisions games as we've seen this last weekend. The Ravens are still still the Raves. Yes, Ravens are I think this is we're realizing You know the teams who are yeah separating I mean Bill Belichick said yesterday like the Giants obviously Coughlin was about to get fired They go on a run the Buccaneers had Tom Brady as their quarterback. It wasn't until the bye week

I think week 11 then had the Atlanta Falcons after the bye week and the only reason why we know that is cuz I was supposed to Be on the team. That's right. I was supposed to be on the team. That's right. I Should be Super Bowl champion should Should be. For sure. But we did too good at managing COVID. Didn't have the antibodies. If I would have had the antibodies, I'm on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers against Atlanta Falcons, wouldn't have had to do anything. No, they beat the shit out of them, I think.

No, but also the two guys end up clearing. That's right. They end up playing. That's right. Kicker and punter both test positive for COVID on like Monday or something like that. So obviously Bruce Arians was with the Colts and Clyde Christensen was with the Colts and a lot of the guys that were down there. AQ. AQ I think was down there knew that I could kick and punt, but the whole process to

get during the COVID era, during the COVID era, you had to be like in a hotel for like 10 days or something. And then you could be part of the team. They didn't have a kicker and a punter that were in isolation in a hotel for 10 days that they could activate onto the roster. So they literally called me and were like, hey, do you have the COVID antibodies?

And I go, I don't know what those are. And they say, if you've had COVID already, then you should have built up the antibodies. And there's a test to be able to prove if you've already had COVID and you have the antibodies. If you have the antibodies, we don't have to put you in a hotel for what? 10 days or 14 days or whatever.

You could potentially, you could be our kicker and punter this week. And now obviously they would have to talk to the colts, there'd have to be an entire thing. But since I didn't have an agent, that's an AOK conversation that's taking place in there. So remember I came into the office, I took that antibodies test

and we just sat there for five minutes because that's how long it took. And it's like, am I about to be Tom Brady's teammate here? If I have the antibodies or not, didn't have the antibodies, never had COVID. And we had been working for months and months and months. Oh, yeah. But we literally were doing the socially. We were doing social distancing.

Yeah. We were going to Florida, too. Yeah, I was doing the NXT. We didn't even talk to each other outside the show. Like we went into the studio and we talked then. But like outside of it, like in like just the- We're masked up in there. Yeah, yeah.

Not that those- What a time. I mean, we're those. That's the time too though. Lots coming up. Yeah, those. People say no. We weren't even looking at each other.

Yes, remember that was the whole like, hey, it can go eyeball to eyeball. We were in a snowbox. And they were talking about deliveries coming on cardboard boxes or whatever. Doused them with- Sweeter. Weoused them with cleaner. We had Dopers machines.

The Trent Dopers sprayer. We were, what was it? A necessary, I forget what it was, because we were a radio, well, some people felt that way. Certainly. Still do. Now granted, I don't know what the new information

coming out, I wonder if we are still, fascinating, we'll be excited to see how that whole thing works out. Indy scoreboard. We do, don't we? Indy scoreboard. That's why sports are the out. We do don't we in this group? That's why sports are the greatest But all those things we had to literally cover and talk about mm-hmm

So I was like we were right in the middle of all that it called 19 on on the line No, we had a COVID 18 Which we had no idea Anyways, we made it we all did we did I'm happy we did that speaking of surviving Which college teams survived a chaotic weekend and still are gonna be projected to be in the college football playoff bracket And which college team sealed their faytas teams there are gonna be dancing in 12 team playoff Joining us now to tell us all those answers and more ladies ladies and gentlemen, college football pundit on ESPN,

analyst and expert, Heather Dine. Yeah. How are you, Heather? Thank you. How are you guys? Fantastic. Thank you for joining us. We chatted at the beginning of the show about how

every time you come on our show, it is, hey, you move the needle, Heather. We want to thank you. We want to thank you for that. Legit. you stir a lot of conversations and it helps me out a lot because I get a lot of people's perspective you know from different places what have we learned or what do you think we're gonna learn from tonight's college football playoff rankings do we think strength of schedule is gonna matter more do we think football judgments gonna matter do

we think wins losses what do you think tonight is going to indicate to the entire college football world, Heather? Well, I think it will indicate just how seriously this selection committee is going to take three loss SEC teams. How far is Alabama down in

the rankings after losing in brutal fashion to Oklahoma? But at the same time time you've got an Indiana team that could be ranked ahead of them that doesn't have any wins against any ranked opponents and came up woefully short and it's only chance this whole season to impress the college football playoff selection committee. So that's a combination of eye test versus resume and we'll see how they blend that together between the Alabama and Indiana's of it all. Okay, so Alabama and Indiana obviously a focal point for this evening.

I think a fascinating thing is you can't project the conference champions obviously, but you even mentioned it in one of your tweets if Texas A&M beats Texas this upcoming weekend, they're in the conference championship against Georgia. So all of a sudden now the loser of the SEC championship game is definitely gonna have three losses are they both gonna get in we would assume yes if you make it to the SEC championship with how the college football playoff committee has put a stress on conference championships like hey we want you to win conference championships you'll get a buy you get

obviously a higher seed if you want a championship even if you don't have it in our tournament. What do you think the thoughts are on that situation brewing? And what if Texas loses to Texas A&M next week? They don't really have any big time wins on their schedule. I love Sark, I love the roster, I love everything like that. But their schedule is going to be at a point where lose to Georgia, lose to Texas A&M, and then what? Nothing really else. So, that game has massive implications, I think, for precedent for the

college football playoff, Heather. Massive implications. But, you know, people are losing their minds about the possibility that a three-loss SEC team can get into the college football playoff. But just step back for a second. I'm going to give you three very realistic scenarios as to how that can happen. And you mentioned the first Georgia loses to Texas in the SEC Championship game. There are three lost team. I think they're in. Why? Because the selection committee is going to talk around the table and say this team has a regular season win against the SEC champs. That matters in that room, just like it would if Ohio State and Oregon, assuming they play in the Big Ten Conference Championship

game, and Oregon loses to Ohio State. They say, well, they're in. They have a win against the Big Ten champs. So there's that. If Texas A&M by some miracle wins the SEC, there's a three loss SEC champ that's in there. And the third realistic scenario is Alabama is not completely out of the mix, which goes back to the first part of our conversation. All it takes is one upset, like Notre Dame losing to USC, gasp, and Alabama's back in the conversation

if they're not already in it tonight dropping gasp into the line was fantastic there because that would be a big old gasp big time I mean that would be a big gasp take place how about Indiana Purdue obviously we know Indiana is going to take care of Purdue yeah Heather I got you hey that's scary that is a scary thing in this state knowing that if Purdue wins this game, it does not matter. Nothing else matters. Thirty point favorites.

Twenty nine and a half or something like that. Purdue fans would be A-OK with their second win of the season only being, and then just roll right into basketball season. That's right. No doubt. I mean, that is a scary situation for the Indiana Hoosiers fresh off of this. Hopefully they bounce back in a massive way, but that is no, that is no cakewalk,

depending upon how you look at Purdue. Now let's talk about another conference that could potentially be dancing with a couple partners. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Heather, we just talked about the SEC title game and the implications that has. Now what about the ACC title game? Let's assume, I saw your projected bracket for tonight,

and SMU and Miami are both in let's assume They take care of business this weekend So they would both probably still be in before going to the ACC title game in that situation You can't punish the loser of the ACC title game right between Miami and SMU would they still both be in or do you think? the loser of the ACC title game could be out as be in or do you think the loser of the ACC title game could be out? As long as those two teams are in the top 10 tonight, which I think they have a good chance to be, I think the chances increased significantly of the ACC runner up continuing to be in.

But I will say this on Saturday, watch the Georgia Georgia Tech game because that's a common opponent with Miami and Miami's losses to Georgia Tech and the committee considers common opponents if Georgia absolutely steamrolls Georgia Tech somehow that would give the committee a window to at least Separate those teams even further and drop Miami down further I'm not sure how that could impact that discussion if Miami were the loser of the ACC Championship game. Does, obviously, anytime you provide people

with reasons to leave you out, that opens the door for everybody else. The ACC was pumped to see what happened in the SEC, I assume, and the Big Ten, Indiana was very happy to see what happened in the SEC this past weekend, right? We're all agreeing on that? Yeah, I mean, listen, when that game between Indiana and Ohio State ended,

my bracket projection had Indiana out. Yeah. Out. And then Alabama and Ole Miss lost and I put them back in. And then I'm watching quadruple overtime and I've got the Aggies in if they were to win that game. So yeah, everything is hanging on and watching these other results. And it's amazing how it's all tied together. So that quadruple overtime game we're watching on ESPN, that F1 announcement down there and highlighted yellow.

Needed it. Man. Needed it. Different color though. I thought there was a flag on every play. I'm watching the play then I see the yellow in the corner. That was, hey, they say Jordan hair is a haunted place. Saban said that, Saban said that at dinner. He was like, we're up seven, nothing.

Five times we get to the red zone or a 10 yard line. We don't score a point. Tell me how that happens. Then he thinks that a ghost Potentially, I haven't asked him but I would assume he would say a ghost is the one that batted that ball out of his hands Sure on that on that two-point try. That's basically what I said. We had a block kick a miss kick How's that both happen in the same game? I don't know and then Interception turnover he was like that place is impossible to play down there obviously Alabama Auburn different story because of the Iron Bowl or whatever the case but like

If old buddy can get it going down there in Auburn, I think that is considered the goat says that's place I don't want to play any football Mike Elko is gonna be saying forever. That's a place. I don't want to play football Why is it Auburn? Why is you know they they always say their boosters are very, very, they got their hands on a lot of things in there. It makes it hard. They got basketball going. They said that at Texas too for a long time, didn't they?

They said that at Texas as well for a long time. Auburn is a tough place to coach because there's a lot of cooks who want to be in the kitchen there for sure. Okay. All right, so thank you for the insight. Thanks. All right, is Tim Apple one of them? Isn't Tim Cook? Yeah, he's an alum. All right. So thank you. All right. Is Tim, is Tim Apple? One of them isn't Tim Cook. Yeah. He's an eagle guy. He's probably got ideas. Yeah. All day

walking around ties. A question for you, Heather. Heather, based on your projections, we have a couple of rematches in terms of big 10 teams and sec teams, but obviously they can't do much because the rankings will be what the rankings are. But do you think the committee is going to try to avoid having two Big Ten teams play each other in the first round and two SEC teams playing each other in the first round so we can get some like diverse matchups that we might not otherwise get? No, they will not do that. They won't try to avoid any rematches. There will be no reseating. Guys, let me tell you something.

Every week I have done this for the past 13 weeks and every single week there's not one matchup on here where I'm like, oh man, I don't want to see that game. I want Indiana and Penn State to settle it on the field. I love that matchup because of these super sized conferences and no divisions. Indiana doesn't play Penn State. They don't play Oregon. So how does that work itself out? And Tennessee would have to go to Georgia again?

Listen, I'm all for it. Sign me up. Yeah. Okay. I'm happy you are. And I appreciate that, but I don't want an extension of playing games from the conference. Me neither. No, granted, they have to respect their rankings.

Sure, of course. They are how they are. I want to see a Big Ten school go to the SEC. Yeah. Because all the conversation about the SEC, it's different down here. It's different down here. And I want to see an SEC school go to the Big Ten. I think that should be a stipulation moving forward.

The higher ranked SEC team gets the Big Ten. Yeah, exactly. And then the higher ranked big ten team an SEC school has to go travel up north yeah I think that should be they should make that a rule for the SEC I was I was thinking about that no cuz I've heard I've heard these SEC places are oh they want to go up and play 40 degrees what about 110 thousand yeah raging Cajuns brother down there you know I mean that's what they talk about though I mean that's what what I mean. That's what's gonna make this playoff so great because we are gonna get some of those matchups

I hope that's what we're hoping. Yeah, sure. We are hoping for that. I think that's what I was Go ahead others I was talking to Ryan day before his game last week and he told me it might snow For last week's game and I was watching Steelers and Cleveland and that's exactly what I was thinking Give me that snow in Columbus, Ohio for first round. With an SEC school coming up there. Tennessee going up there. So, and hey, Tennessee even has a little chilly part, right?

They have mountains down in Tennessee, so that's all good, but that would settle the whole, cause that is a loud convo right here. Oh yeah. This is the hardest place to play. We saw Saban on that set at Ohio State. He was cold. He was cold cold That's what the North says you guys might be able to have a hundred and fifteen thousand people all drive to one town because it's nice And warm come on up here when we can't drive. Yeah the stadium because it's frozen. That's that's

Do you worry though that teams will then say like well if this wasn't a home game and there wasn't weather like this then we would have won like George Bakins did after the Steelers lost to the Browns then they say okay well then fine you're right we need to go play this at a you know indoor stadium somewhere close by maybe. Listen I am punter, kicker, dome everything but in the SEC Big Ten conversation it's always like this is the hardest place to play. They're not taking into account like. The elements. It's five degrees up here.

Yeah. You know, getting warm, getting loose. Absolutely. Yeah. Everything like that. I think that is the equalizer. At the Peach Bowl game we saw a couple of years ago, CJ Straugh gets that Georgia team,

like Georgia has to go to Ohio State and play that game. Like, it's a different, complete different ball game. That's what I worry about though, is that happens. It is a different football game. And then the committee says, well, you're right. You know what? We can't do these home games anymore because of that. Oh no, that's a part of it.

That's what I'm worried about. That's why you lift all these weights. I agree, I agree. That's why you run all these things. Think how they think maybe. Yeah, 13 people, 13 people. No, hey listen, I Man I can't wait to present that to coach Saban coach Saban

I think what the north would say is yeah, you guys might have more people and loud and it's crazy There's a lot of tiger there But we can't have a lot of tiger up here. You know what he'll die frostbite It'll be a dead tiger. Okay, let's talk about cold game. The game this weekend. Ryan Day actually came out on an Ohio State show and he said this about the game against Michigan. We felt what it's like to not win this game. And it's bad.

It's one of the worst things that's happened to me in my life, you know, quite honestly. Other than losing my father and a few other things, it's quite honestly for my family, the worst thing that's happened. So we can never have that happen. Listen, these Ohio people were fucking insane. Nuts.

Okay, I lose to Michigan, it has made my life terrible. So yeah, this is the worst thing. So my dad passed, my family and I both, he adds family in there too, because they got to experience the neighborhood and the community as well as they're going out there. That win over Indiana was huge for Ryan Day in Ohio State and obviously going into Michigan.

What are your thoughts on Ryan Day as the coach of Ohio State Buckeyes Heather? Well, I've talked to him multiple times in his office about the pressure that comes with this game. But I mean, he's right, he can't lose, especially this year. Everyone knows this, there's zero reason. Michigan has tried every quarterback on its roster

and then some not working. The only reason for concern in this game is how good Michigan is upfront defensively, I think, and with Ohio State banged up a little bit on the offensive line, how that matchup fares. But the reality is, Ohio State is better. This should not be a close game. And Ryan Day knows this, he knows the expectations.

And I said this even before going into this season, that Michigan was probably a four loss team. And here we are, where they have five losses now. This, I mean, this is redemption mode here for Ryan Day. Well, Michigan hurt a lot of people's strength of schedule because of how they've played this year. You know, like Indiana, Michigan would have been a good win for them, but instead it wasn't,

they were able to handle that front, but it was a very, very close game. So you would assume Ohio State would be able to do that. I think it's a 21 point spread, which only adds the pressure to Ryan Day. Yeah. That only adds to the entire conversation, just like it was 13 and a half with Indiana. You know, 13 and a half Ryan Day and Ohio State people were thinking of him like, hey, you guys better win this thing by multiple scores. And they did. And he put a little foot on the gas at the end of that thing, Heather. Is that a mindset there from Ryan Day? What do

you think that message was to his team? Oh, that message was leave no doubt that we're the better team. You know, he came on and he he said that there was absolutely a mindset. And I'm sure that deep inside, he wanted to prove that Indiana was probably not as good as its ranking until it played some more elite competition. So, yes, certainly a mindset. I expect him to bring it into the Michigan game. But what is so amazing to me is that as long as I've been

covering college football here at ESPN, that has been the game. It has been one of the games, if not the game, with the biggest impact this weekend on the college football playoff. And that is not the cake. This is about Ryan Day and the rivalry and all of that. Right. But Texas, Texas A&M

is one of the most intriguing playoff games. And so to be having that conversation and not even like really talking about Michigan is just in a way surreal given what they were a year ago. That's why all their alum said we're coming together to get a quarterback. Yeah. We're not doing this. We aren't doing this for another year.

No way in hell. This is not who we are supposed to be. Texas, Texas A&M playoff game. Yeah. That is so we already got one down there. And I guess they do. I guess they don't like each other. Hate each other.

A lot of the traditions from both of the schools are to against each other. So I didn't know that at all. I had no idea. And I guess it used to be a great robbery and then they stopped it. Obviously you go to the SEC, they're in the big 12. But I guess like the Texas people, I guess in the Texas A&M people,

I guess there's a natural distaste for each other. I was growing up, they always played Thanksgiving night, I believe. They'd be wrong. But or maybe the Friday after Thanksgiving is what I remember. They don't like each other, I guess. It's going to be electrifying down there. I hope it's not as humid, humid as it was. No way. But how terrible it's been up here.

You probably want to mine a little little heat. I'll tell you what, I'm OK. Give me last Friday over. But not cold. I was last Friday. Yeah, you know, I see you sure that over I would take that over 100% humidity or whatever One million times out of one million times. I didn't get pneumonia didn't kill me. I didn't get sick from it So that's good the shit it drains me. I get headaches. I'm tired. I'm uncomfortable Obviously socks get soggy because the sweats all running down there, so I'm walking in soggy socks

And that's immediately getting outside. So that's four seconds into life Yeah, and then you gotta do the rest of the day. Can't do it. I don't know how people do it That's how the messy seat boys feel about going up north Bingo, I think it is quite a disadvantage for me to go down there And then the complete opposite going. Like when I see you wearing hoodies and shit down there a disadvantage for me to go down there and then the complete opposite. Like when I see you wearing hoodies and shit down there in South Florida whenever we were down there. That's crazy. I was almost sick. I didn't know how you were able to hang it. I honestly had no idea.

Get used to it. I don't though. That's the thing. I think I would die if I was to live down there. You get used to it. Did you see how quick I burned too? I mean I'm the color of that jersey but then... That's true but you get used to it. Let your pores breathe. Good for your hair, good for your skin. That's why everybody retires down there. It's so nice. Which once again, what an advantage.

Yeah. The cold is for the Big 10. Nobody's talking about it. Exactly. All right, Heather, we appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you for joining us. Before we let you go. Yeah.

Massive name in college football. Yeah, just brought up Texas, former national champ, Mac Brown. He was relieved of his duty. Saw Pete Thammels, the authorities tweet on that. Want to know why they did it now instead of after the season and how coveted is that UNC job? That is a great question as to why they did it now, especially going into the last game

of the season. And I want to say a day after Mac Brown said that he wasn't going to retire. So I don't have the answer to that. How coveted is that job? It's look, it's, it's good, but it's not great. Whoa, right. Geez. You're at a loss for words. I don't know. Yeah, it was a gap. You were trying to figure out how to. Yeah, it was a gap. I don't know how I'm gonna say this gap. You were trying to figure out how to. Well, I'm trying, listen, I'm a nice person. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,

hard words don't count. Got good Jordan swag. Got great Jordan deal. They do. Cool colors. Cool, great uni. Uni. Yeah.

Mascots cool. Listen, we're not talking about basketball here. We're talking about football. Oh yeah. And I think that when you're trying to compete with the recruiting of Clemson's and Miami's of the world and you know as bad as Florida State has been this year, even Florida State, there's a lot of catching up to do it feels like to right the ship. Can you win there? Absolutely you can. It is a great school. It's a great academic school. Um, but there's just,

there's a lot of work to do, right? So it's not like you're walking into a program that is set to compete at the top of the ACC. That's my point. This is, there's a, there's a lot of work that has to be done. So, and, well, I was just going to say in, in the era of NIL and you're competing against schools like the SEC, um, it, all of these jobs become more difficult. I can't tell you how many coaches have told me in the ACC, we put so much time and effort into these recruits and then somebody else with

more money just comes in and sweeps them out. Come on, come on get the stuff. Don't be a fool. You want to make double with cheese? Extra cheese? Emphasis on the cheese? That is a real deal. But what about this ruling that's coming April the 8th I believe of 2025 from a judge that is going to inevitably enact a salary cap. I think it's 22% of the overall net revenue of, I think it's stadium, everything that takes place. It's going to be about 21 million per school, D1 school. 16 is the expected or projected amount of millions that will go towards the football team. That's going to be like a regulated salary cap that all D1 schools are gonna have the exact same. Do you think that potentially makes any job enticing

that's in D1, if you at least have a little bit of cash to battle with, or do you think the NIL stuff that's gonna be outside of it is still gonna reign supreme probably in these particular convos? Yeah, I think until we know exactly what it looks like on paper and who's getting what and most importantly, how you enforce this, right? Keyword enforce this to me is one of the most interesting things that will help answer all those questions.

I'm certainly not going to sit here and pretend to know the answers to it. But I mean, even know, even athletic directors that I talked to as of like yesterday are still trying to figure it out. Enforcing it is hilarious to think of. Did you spend 21 million or 22 million? You tell me. I don't know.

I don't remember. I don't know. You do the audit. So who's gonna run through all the books? Oh my God, we got more problems coming. All right, college football is awesome. We can't thank you enough for joining us Heather. Thanks guys. Hey the hallway has been, hey the hallway's been bumping. I don't know, I've seen some, I see some different meals coming down. Lunchtime yeah. I've seen a couple people just

kind of moseying, you know, and then noticing, oh no, walking this way. There's been, there's been quite a little show, a parade over there. Where are you at? Are you up at ESPN? Yeah, I'm at ESPN, but the green room was crowded, so I moved out here. Well, I appreciate you doing that. We got you a sweet snowboarder on you. Yeah, yeah.

Sweet. Who's that, Seanway? Is that a Bob Ross painting too, down there with those trees? 3D. Or is that a picture? That's a picture? Looks like he's coming out of a wall. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's a snowboarder. like he's coming out of a wall. Yeah

Who is it? You know who it is? Is that the flying tomato? I haven't done my ex games homework for the show. I'm sorry Thank you College football expert. He's a gentleman Heather Dennis Wonder if that's the flying tomato. It's got Who else would it be? Yeah, how many did he win? All of them. All of them. Yeah. Was he skateboarded too? No. I think he dabbled later in life, but didn't like. He won gold medals there too, I believe.

Yeah, I think he went full time snowboarded. What a beast. Yeah. And then remember he made his own half-pipe up in the mountains. It was a secret mountain. Yeah. Had people sign NDAs.

Yeah. Make sure you're going to come up and watch with the flying tomatoes about to pull out. You're going to have to never talk about it Mm-hmm taking helicopters in that yeah, that's Sean white. Yes, okay Feel good about that X Games feel good about that Did you watch any exchange growing up new I know who Sean white is Tony Hawk? Oh, yeah Sam ask Kayla's dog to go

burqas I'm not a video. I'm ask Kayla's dog to go Bob Berkowitz No, these rock Biker Matt Hoffman great Dave Mira Mira Did he have what he had his own bikes, right? How'd he die? Thank you X games X games that a hell of a lot I didn't know he died either and I don't want to of a run. I didn't know he died. I don't want to talk about it. I don't know. I'm gonna plead. We did not watch the X Games. We watched the X Games. I don't know if you saw this. The field goal that the Green Bay Packers had against the Chicago Bears, the block, was deemed 100% legal. We didn't really get a chance to talk about that as much. 100% illegal, all good.

Don't know why everybody isn't doing it. But it was reported by, I believe Chicago's, I think it was Chicago newspaper reporter, maybe Green Bay, whoever the case. The NFL told the Bears that, yeah, nothing, sorry about it. Everything was legal. So double push, double barrel, up the gut. If you line up properly and time it up at the right time

I think you could block more kicks. I I do believe this is gonna make the life of long snappers Oh my god much worse No, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as what long snappers lives used to be like long snappers lives used to be just Torture like actual hey need you snap it perfectly laces and everything but then also there's going to be uh two dudes that are about 300 pounds each average they'll be lined up on both shoulder okay and good news for you it's not just them behind them there will be a linebacker on each guy that's like 240 this is big time this is back whenever linebackers used to be big 240-250 and they're gonna they're gonna have their hands on the asses of these D tackles and their job is just to bobsled team push

Through you so these long snappers have their heads down neck down as soon as they snap it You got 300 then 250 on the backside all pushing on both shoulders, and you're just getting yeah Don't polish. Yeah every single time so much so that they the rules committee actually came shoulders and you're just getting dumb all of us every single time. So much so that the rules committee actually came together and were like, we're staring down at an inevitable massive lawsuit. What's going on on this particular play? So they changed the rules.

I think they changed them too much, I think is what people probably thought. Just like what happened with this kickoff and everything. So now they're back to, I think you can, but you can't, can't line up directly over, can't line up with a tush push Apparently is is kind of the take but if in the play it happens that you end up on the shoulder and somebody ends up Pushing you and you end up getting through like that's a good place. So now at least we know yeah, cuz I special teams guy

I don't think anybody really knew what iteration of the rule are we at? So whenever we're talking about I asked I'm like I Don't know if Bears fans should be happy about this. I have no idea because obviously they tried to make rules in the past that have kind of stopped it. But if that was if Basacha was able to figure out the push, the push, the push, the big push. He would. I mean he that's a great design then. If this is within the rules, which is what special teams coordinators are always trying to do they're trying to figure out how to Just kind of maneuver within the rule book a little bit and then if they get caught It's almost like a badge of honor because a rule is added because of something that you

Outsmarted in the special teams world. That's kind of how it is. So like Basacha figuring this out Monkey see monkey do yeah copycat league This is what it's gonna be and then there's been commanders block one off the side to coming in from the side It's like there's been an assault almost on Fuel goals. It's like I think teams are getting very confident that they can block them. That's a change of that's a turnover That's a pick six almost waiting to happen guaranteed the Bears had another one blocked I think yeah Vikings They did, yeah.

And I don't know, I can't remember what the technique was or if they tried using the Packers technique or whatever, but the Bears, they got blocked again. Yeah, it was up the middle. Similar situation. So already the monkey see monkey do situation could be happening. And it was, like Basatcha said,

like that wasn't like a happy accident. Like that was the plan, was to do exactly what they did. So like you've talked about with Mitt's dad a bunch just like Scott and you know special teams coordinators at large just Scouring the rulebook to like big okay. Yep. That's not in there. Let's go ahead and let's let's take advantage of this So I would assume Basacha, you know, it was just up all night and he found it and he said, okay Here's it and and then he looked the film. He said cuz we talked about it He was like, hey if we don't block a kick tomorrow, like I'm gonna be beside yourself. Yeah, that's um

It's almost like special teams government and I know you saw the Raiders. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Hey, Jake. Oh had quite a game He did we absolute dime great fake absolute dime great fake and then he also pinned the team within five Specialists are having some good years. Yeah and turpent. I mean we showed it yesterday the turpent return was asinine He's gonna be pro bowl returner already No, not a slot that one down as a pro bowl returner turpent getting in there. Obviously. We've seen him at a lesser league This is phenomenal Let me run through The hang time the kick doesn't matter.

Yeah. Might be the strategy now. Like, Hey, muff it a little, get those guys closer. Yes. And D, but the only reason why I say that is because nobody's allowed to start moving until balls touch, right? Or the ball touches the ground. So whatever the case is. So like, Oh, the height. Okay.

Yeah. So the height doesn't like shit balls are kind of getting rewarded. If you're able to hit a squib that lands within the 20 yard line, like that's the best kick. Aubrey from Dallas had been doing that all season. I think they just tried to do that there. Turpin clearly did not scoop it up right the first time. No panic. Didn't matter. Why did he not panic? Well, because he can literally just do a dead leg in a four, in the middle of a football game. Yeah, zero to 60. It's not a backyard football game. That is, that is a NFL game right there.

I think you mentioned it. I'm not sure if it was you or Bill, but like that bobble kind of just slows the guys down and all these touchbacks now. I know when we were playing like in the mid room, you almost get like a loaf or a minus if you didn't run through the end zone. Now watching games, like half the guys

don't run through the end zone. They don't even move. Yeah, so many touchbacks, so they're running, they're jogging. And now you get a guy like this where it always only takes one guy, I think here was the third guy in, he went in, lost leverage, and boom, out the gate, right there. Boom. 58.

Out of there. That's all you need on kickoff. You just need two people that are next to each other to not be on the same page. And then, bang, gone. Which is why the NFL wants to save kickoff returns. Yep. Because any one of them can change the trajectory of a game

How about changing the trajectory of somebody's life? Okay, that happened this weekend after Kansas City Chiefs beat the Carolina Panthers. We showed the video earlier a Kansas City Chiefs fan young man was looking to get a glove or an autograph snuck by security got to the point where there's no Rail somehow falls in his cot snuck by security, got to the point where there's no rail somehow, falls and is caught by a superstar. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us right now is the man who I believe gave his glove to, but also changed that kid's life forever because I think he was going head down. Ladies and gentlemen, D-Tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs, Trashon Ward.

What's up, man? How you doing? Hey, life is good. Congrats on being a two time Super Bowl champion. Congrats on playing the most amount of plays that you've played in your five year career this season. And congrats on being 10 and 1. Now, we appreciate you taking time out of this. Whenever you see this kid falling, do you remember what you were thinking? Did you not think?

Was it just natural reaction? Can you go through this moment for us a little bit here from your side? Well, I? Was it just natural reaction? Can you go through this moment for us a little bit here from your side? I would say it was natural reaction. Usually when I lead a game, you know, I try to throw my gloves in the crowd and I think I heard my name a little bit and when I heard my name I seen them coming down. It was two security guards right there. I don't think they realized what I was doing because they were looking at us, but I just had to kind of like push him into the stands a little

bit to make sure he didn't hit too hard. So what was it? It was a one-handed grab snag of what like his shirt, his shoulder. How did you go about honestly because we don't have the other view. We can't see the other side. Right I kind of grabbed him right by the back of his back and kind of like pushed him into it a little bit to push him into the stands a little bit more That's awesome. Hey, have you got a chance to meet this kid since this time? I haven't but I would like to reach out to him get him out to a game and uh, you know get it be able to Reflect with him a little bit more if I could hell. Yeah, that's I think that's

The exact reason why we should do that. Yeah, I hope this happens. I hope this connection takes place How are you feeling other than obviously catching a child falling from a balcony? Which is out of a movie after a game in there. How do you feel over there? It feels like spags defense has you guys ready to roll against anybody. Does it feel different than last year same as last year? What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, every year is a different team, you know, we feel like we could always be better, feel like we haven't played our complete game on both sides of the ball yet. So, you know, we always working through things and we're ready to

continue to get rolling this Friday. Yeah, you guys are continuing to win. What do you think it is about your team that just makes you guys win these games? Because there's some stat coming out about seven of your last eight playoff games. I think we're all one score games. A lot of your wins over this run have been one score games. There's a lot of stats about that. What do you think it is about your particular team that makes you guys win those close games as opposed to teams that don't?

I think we fight hard. It's emphasized the BR three phases here. That's offense, defense, and special teams. And we're just trying to find a way every week. So it's emphasized the BR three phases here. That's offense, defense and special teams. And we're just trying to find a way every week. And when those moments called anybody who numbers called, they go out and achieve. Hell yeah.

Well, we appreciate you so much for joining us. Hopefully you and the young man get a chance to hang out at a Chiefs game and good luck the rest of the way. We appreciate you, man. Thank you. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, potential life sa way. We appreciate you, man. Thank you. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, potential life saver. Yeah, here we are.

Trashon Warfarin. Hey! Trashon! That was cool. Yeah, incredible. That was wild. I hope they do get a chance to meet up. That was kind of the idea behind this.

Hopefully they get a chance to chit chat, family, potentially, I would assume, would want to say. Because we would like to say to the young lad, I mean, that's potentially one of us with our, we operate, you know trying to do a thing accidentally fall And it's like let's learn our lesson from this. Okay. Let's definitely learn. Let's be aware of our surroundings a little bit, but also Kids a dog. Yeah, he's a dog, you know go back to school after break Yeah, awesome. You gotta see me there was a potential was a potential Jay Leno situation. Well, yeah, or worse. Depending where he's at. So hopefully Mr. Wharton and the young blonde lad get a chance to meet up at Chiefs game. And for Tapper, let's close those corners.

Because I assume all the corner, I don't know where the strategy is there, but that was almost like a commander's. You remember the commander's that almost killed Jaylen Hurts a few years ago. It's like, hey, those corners of the stadium, very important, especially for these kids. Yeah, especially if it's a ton of where players are going to be walking. Yeah. Once again, that's not on Tepper didn't build that stadium. No, no, I know. But also, hey, can we get, I don't know if the guardrail helps as much, that little rail

that wasn't there. I don't know if it saves the entire situation, but I think it would have to help. Yeah, for sure. It would have to help there. I mean, how is, is there a ladder there? Is there a ladder? It looks like it is a Like on purpose that security guard was ready to just turn around and run up the stairs to Kids first time on a ledge to play was what do you think? I think he thought he had good base

Yeah, and his foot slipped. Yeah it's exciting, it's exciting the Chiefs just won on a walk off field goal. Hey don't lose your Moxie kid, don't want, now granted we can't do that again. Yeah. But I like him going to get it, you know, I think any kid that's gonna go, I mean he was trying to get it. Making effort. A little too much. We all learn about that. It's raining in but let's still go get it. Sure. And also shout out to Tashawn. Hell yeah. That was a great. Yeah. Boom. Right place right time. We tried to get another angle from his side so we could only kind of guess what happened down there. Thanks for playing. Back in Jersey. Squishing. How about the squishing? What did we do? It's not a movie. What is his height and weight? He's

D-tackle for the cheeks. Uh-huh. Big son of a bitch. I bet you he's gigantic. It's like 280 I think. Is that the perfect guy to be walking at that time? Uh-huh. Let me just go ahead and boom. Let me go ahead and lock it at this thing.

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The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Boston hockey hat, Celtic shirt. We're feeling good about this offseason coming up, huh? Oh, I'm feeling fantastic. Sacco and the boys, of course, 2-0. How is Coach Sacco? Coach Sacco is doing well. We got a big road victory over the Detroit Red Wings this weekend.

Easy dub, but still a dub 2-0 undefeated with Sacko and of course the Celtics last night with poor Zing is back I'm very worried about the NBA not meaning a goddamn thing until the NBA finals because of the fact that they are unbeatable They scored 51 points in the second quarter last night. Who'd they lose to though? They lost to somebody didn't they? I can't remember because it was probably a decade ago. Oh Yeah, Golden State. Yeah, we lost to Golden State. We lost to the Pacers. That's what you're getting at. You lost to the Pacers? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Oh, don't look now Yeah, Tyrese Halle back. Okay, Halle Burton is all the way back, which is good news. And baby Ty! Oh, yeah. Good work.

Happy to hear that. Happy to hear that. All right, one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone is here. AP Tone, you took the Ravens last night. Submitted 70% of the public. How often have we hit on these now? That majority of the money is on one particular team because I saw a Monday Night Football Countdown show, even including Stephen A. Smith.

Hey, you look cool. Oh, man. Ordered everything he had on. Yeah absolutely immediately you know and that's the thing with the future I think we'll be able to watch TV and just point at something like hey his glasses look sweet how do I go about getting those glasses and then it's just a link pops up and we'll be like when's that gonna happen? That would mean I would expect Amazon will have that. Last night would have been one of those nights. Holy shit. That last night would have been one of those nights. Holy shit. Holy shit.

You know, let's do one of those. Shoes too, obviously phenomenal. He wasn't even on the graphic. And he picked the Baltimore Ravens. So it was Swagu, it was Ryan, it was Jason, it was Scott Van Pelt. It was the entire Hammer God show. And it was me because AJ took the Chargers

and we were one game differential over the weekend that felt like everybody was on one side and it still hit are we doing that a lot this season and is that how we should think as you can read the season started as one of the best seasons for gamblers to remember and then there was a period where it was the worst season for gamblers that over a month period and then the last month it's been a bit of uh 50 50 like this weekend one two three four five six teams over 60 one uh four teams lost so six and four when the public was on 60 or more of the bets this week okay so we need to know that it doesn't mean anything if everybody's leaning one way it used to it's in the book and it's on the books

from this particular season. In the past, that used to be the indicator. Hey, if everybody is thinking this way, it's gotta go this way. That's not real anymore. We need to remember that. Especially whenever we're betting on hockey. Ladies and gentlemen, a fan of the reigning

Stanley Cup champions, Florida Panthers. And I have no idea why he's wearing that today. I can't wait to hear a nine-year NFL vet there I'm a team player and it's not going so great right now. I don't know what's going on. Maybe a little more insight So this is it's me playing my part in the team trying to turn the tide around yeah, hey boys You know the one you guys suck. Yeah, I would say we suck. They feel so we're second second individual right now But on the four four game skit right now hasn't been great Bob's kind of been in it out of the net So I'm not sure what's going on there, but I will turn around

You know what is you guys relegate it I know you know it is because we don't talk about you know anymore No, it's because it is? Cause we don't talk about hockey enough anymore. That's what it is. It's cause they don't have a sack hole. Wait, who's called it? It's yours, you're a child. It's tough to get to three Stanley Cups in a row, D-Butch. It is a grind. Anyways, hockey's awesome.

It is currently happening. You should watch it. The Penguins are turning around. They did something good. Sure. What did they do good? I saw Sid fighting. I never see Sid fight his own fight.

Half-ported, six hundredth. Boom. Tenth fight his own fight. He's half forty six hundredth. Boom. Tenth fight of his career. He's sick of it. Where are the goons? We don't have them. That's part of the problem. He's been the goon for the team. Him and Gino, who is second best player on the team, they have been the goons for the team over the last five, seven, ten years. And that's part of the problem. You know, we got the Fenway Sports Group that owns it though. I'm sure they're going to do it. No, they're not doing that. They're loading up for a Juan. Yeah, they're too worried about that one So does coming up to Boston. Okay

Joining us now ladies and gentlemen Ohio State legend ladies and gentlemen Super Bowl champion all-time leading tackler for Green Bay Packers AJ Haw Hawker what hockey team are you pulling for this year? Every year, it's somebody different with, depending upon where Jack goes. Yeah, this year, the Columbus Blue Jackets, Jack's my squad, and they actually just jumped ahead of the Pittsburgh Penguins in the standings.

So yeah, doing the, doing the- Why, here we go. Oh my. The Blue Jackets. I believe we're nine, nine, and one or something. Yeah, we're, you know, it's roller coaster of a season, but yeah, we're figuring it out. I met Stinger and Collin this weekend calling these fingers right hand man

They're promoting the stadium series going to the horseshoe. That's gonna be Awesome, that's sweet. I don't know if the two teams that are playing are gonna be able to draw the amount of people here That they were hoping for you got the Columbus Blue Jackets playing the Detroit Redway, hell, yeah That's a stinker. That's gonna be all Red Wings fans in that barn. That's Cooper Rush Tommy DeVito Thanksgiving day 110,000 they were talking about they're like you have the ability to hold a hundred and ten I'm like you guys put the Columbus Blue Jackets versus the Detroit Red Wings already did it in the big house The Red Wings guys passed dating Pavelings. Already did it in the big house.

The Red Wings, who'd you guys play? Pavel Dabis. I believe it was the Toronto Maple Leafs back then. So they probably do it so people can travel. So it's one of those games. I love those things. It's a spectacle. So even people that aren't hockey fans,

if you're not a hockey fan, you want to go watch a game in the stadium. That doesn't happen. Yeah, even when the teams aren't good, you go, oh, look, we're in the football stadium. It's cool. It's insane. Yeah, it is. in the football stadium it's cool yeah yeah it is but it's hot yeah i love the stadium series yeah just to i'm not jacked up about this one you know but stinger's gonna do some shit i met stingers the mascot i like the way stinger operates oh yeah i like the way they can i went

to one good these from good claps you know, good. They better wheel that cannon in there They got a nice can and they've launched off blue jackets games. Oh, they better do that I assume they will you want to one of these things? Yeah, we went to one right before we actually moved to Indy and it was the coldest I've ever been in my entire life Bundle up. Okay, cuz it's January. It's cold outside. I like watching them a lot Yeah, I like watch a block cuz they have like the Skycams on the stadium series and if it is snowing, you know, there's a nice added little, oh it's like pond hockey back in the day for the lads out here, you know, it's like you get back to it. There's always an incredible musical guest. Yes. Oh yeah. Bruins Penguins at the park a few years ago. It was unbelievable. Yeah.

Nickelback, I think Train had a couple had a couple Oh, yeah, they're good The players usually have like I always feel bad for them They have like a three mile walk in their skates to the the ring because like, you know The ice is not that nothing compared to a football field So they're in the locker rooms way back and then you see like the the trail that they build for these guys to walk in Their skates up to the ice. Do you guys love the blue jackets over there in Columbus? they do honestly like people if you go to a game in person, which I've been to many like guys to walk in their skates up to the ice. Do you guys love the blue jackets over there in Columbus? They do, honestly.

Like people, if you go to a game in person, which I've been to many, like people love it. They really do. That barn is always packed, legitimately. Very loyal fan base. Really? Loud. So they will fill that place up.

Maybe. The stadium? Yeah. That's a lot of seats. A lot of seats. There's been a lot of football fans there as well, I bet. For sure. Just an opportunity to go see the horseshoe. That's right. Go get a horseshoe in the winter. Yep. Let's do it. Ohio State fans there as well, I bet. For sure. Just an opportunity to go see the horseshoe.

That's right. Go get a horseshoe in the winter. Yep. Let's do it. Ohio State fans just be like, hey, they're opening doors. We need to go. Yeah. Let's go.

Please pay tribute to this entire thing. Did you hear Heather Denitz talking about the college football playoff ranking? Yeah. And Ryan Day. She said she talked to Ryan Day before the game. She talked to Ryan Day on a regular basis about the Michigan game, his mindset, his family, but also they feel like, hey, it feels like they got a little edge to them this year.

They ended that Indiana game. She said that he wanted to prove we're a much better team than this team is and wanted to score to indicate it because it was just two score game at the time. So that would certainly be a part of the conversation. 31-15, that's 16, that's two touchdowns, two two two point conversions

it's a two score game so whenever they get into the they give up two special teams touchdowns pretty much with the drop of the snap and then the actual punt return so that's two scores right there I mean you're so Ryan Day thinking of all those things potentially in the moment because he has to because that is the college football world and landscape that we're in while also adding on to the fact that he won 1000% ran everything that Kurt Signecki had said about the Ohio State Buckeyes to his team hundreds of times I bet if you just think about how he reacted to a fake Lou Holtz interview in a real situation Ryan Day sees it all and uses it all. There was Trevion Henderson, we appreciate you, but we are certainly going to run this right down their throats for another touchdown. I think you

should feel good as an Ohio State fan. That feels like a different energy than what it has been, right? Yeah, it definitely is. I mean, now, like if you talk about the ultimate trap game, I think they're 21 point favorites against Michigan, which it's all the, you know, Michigan can come in and make their whole season by knocking off the Buckeyes. So yeah, I think there's a lot of juice going into this one. Yeah, it's a lot of juice going into the game. You've talked about it, obviously, over there.

I think he's doing, you know, there's a lot of people interested in the game still. Because the story is Ryan Day. If he loses this one, this is worse than ever. Especially his 21 point favorite. What is the messaging going around Ohio State about this game? Fans feel like they should dominate

this Michigan football team, I assume? I think that's the, that's what they would hope for. Yeah. Just like going into the Indiana game. I feel like the Ohio State fans wanted to prove a point and how good they were and, and wanted to make it look good. And I think they did that. And that's probably very similar to how they feel going into this one against Michigan. So are we. That was an ice cold stage. Yeah. Just immediately so like he was very. Yeah it means you can tell

it means a lot to him. Yeah it definitely means a lot to him. Yeah it definitely did. Indiana we all assume still going to be in congrats to them on potentially still being in a 12-team playoff for college football After everything that program's been through because of the chaos that took place down the sec It is a beautiful time to be a college football fan. You talk about him being under almost more pressure this year, though I think this is the biggest underdog michigan's ever been to ohio state since like they've had betting lines the last two biggest Times they were seven mich Michigan was 17 point dogs and They won both those games outright. So it's like, you know, I mean there's all that stuff that's creeping in like Hey we I was reminded earlier my junior year

They were ranked seven and we were unranked and they came to Ohio State and we beat him and it made our whole You know, we were not a great team I think we had four losses at the time and we ended upranked and they came to Ohio State and we beat them and it made our whole, you know, we were not a great team. I think we had four losses at the time and we ended up beating them and kind of ruining what they had. Yeah. And that's a big driver. That is a big, it fueled our whole off season. Yeah. It was great for us. Indiana has Purdue 29 and a half point, 29 and a half point favorites. Like, could you imagine what do you think the message is?

What's the message to your team if you're sick? To Indiana. What's sick is we gotta bounce back, but your message Ryan Walter, I think is the head coach of Purdue, he's been there for two years, they're one in 10 or whatever it is right now. It's like, hey, we win this one.

We all got another year. Might as well win under P. We all got another year, you know? Like that is college ball as a whole. We're lucky to be a part of it. Speaking of lucky to be a part of something, every Tuesday for the last five football seasons, we've had a chance to chit chat with a man who's going to be a first pilot Hall of Famer.

A man who's going to be considered to be in the pantheon of football players whenever they say, wow, who are the greatest of all time whenever it comes to playing the sport of football. He's obviously won four MVPs. He's a Super Bowl champion. Current quarterback of the New York Jets from Cal. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Good hat brother. Hey, we saw some photos floating around the internet. How was your weekend back in Berkeley? Obviously I've got a chance to experience that city, wonderful energy, wonderful vibes at that place. Football time, I got a chance to experience. city. Wonderful energy, wonderful vibes at that place. Football

time, I got a chance to experience. How is it to be back around the boys and back in Berkeley brother? Yeah, it was a blast, man. It was it was so much fun. Like just in that picture. I mean, you're going way too fast in these pictures, but there's some guys I hadn't seen a long time guys that really meant a lot to me, great teammates. It was just, man, just such a great, great weekend. There was something special. That team had the special sauce, you know, that love for each other.

We loved hanging out together. We, you know, spent a lot of time off the field together. It was pre-NIL, so there was, cause football was a lot different back then. We were all riding around on scooters. We had a damn scooter gang that would drive up and down the hills in Berkeley from time to time. And, you know, we had a lot different back then. We're all riding around on scooters. We had damn scooter gang that would drive up and down the hills in Berkeley from time to time.

We had a lot of fun, but man, there's so many great memories and stories that were brought up there. Jeff MacArthur in that picture, who is such an incredible receiver, great dude. Had a lot of fun combos with him. Steve Levy over my right shoulder there. Basie put the whole damn thing together with Foxy there

at Cal and just so many guys spent a lot of time working on this to honor not just the team, but especially coach Tedford. And I was saying, I think there were two things that really went into, we had like 90 guys come back, like 90 out of what, a hundred, little over a hundred come back for one team is 014 and it was really I think due to the work that Steve and Foxy and and everybody at Cal put in but also when

When the first thing that Steve said and Steve is a huge reason for Steve leave you my buddy who I saw you I thought with in Jersey. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah product of product of product of Don Bosco Jersey Also married to a Jersey girl. Classic. Had to get all that in, I think. Yep, okay, I got all that in. Yep. But it was Coach Tedford.

Everybody loved Coach Tedford and so much respect and appreciation for what he did for all of our careers. So when Steve called, number one, everybody picked up because everybody loves Steve. And when the first thing he said was, Hey, we're doing something to honor coach Tevron 2004. Boom. I mean, you got 90 guys that show up from all over the world. Really. David Loney showed up from Australia. Guys came from the East coast, from the South. Marshawn was, you know, showed up. He's doing some movie shoot somewhere. New Mexico, New Mexico. He's in New Mexico. New Mexico movie. So he's not in Mexico. I somewhere New Mexico New Mexico. He's a new Mexican movie

So he's not in Mexico. I thought he was in Mexico not old Mexican New Mexico. He's in New Mexico He's a big time He's a big-time actor now, you know, I think he's like one of the leads in that movie. Yeah, I think he is Marshawn's one of the most Special people to ever exist. Oh, yeah, we can never lose Marshawn and we of the most special people to ever exist. Oh yeah. We can never lose Marshawn. And we need to remember that too. Marshawn walks into a room, I think Snoop has a similar effect.

I don't know how many people throughout history, Marshawn walks into a room, any room, everybody just mood lifted. He's a big, he's a big, he's a big Pat fan. He's a big AJ fan, not a big BC fan. What? Oh! I don't know why.

I loved him in Westworld! I loved him in Westworld. I loved him in Westworld. Let's talk about you taking that trip back. 90 teammates is obviously phenomenal. And shout out to Steve and Foxy for piecing that thing together. But you know. And so many other people.

Andrew McGraw was amazing with it. Of course. Yeah. Everybody, everybody that's a part of it. Thank you all so much over there. You did a great job. Great job. Great job.

Bringing 90 people back, especially with how it's that's way out there for a part of it. Thank you all so much over there. You did a great job. Great job. Great job. Bringing 90 people back, especially with how it's that's way out there, you know, for a lot of people, not that everybody's in the area, but congratulations on a magical weekend. Now for you in this time of your football life, everything that's kind of happening, you know, chaos seemingly everywhere around the Jets. Was it nice to get back to college almost and chit chat and reminisce? I don't want to say like, remember what's great about ball,

but like, was that a part of this weekend? And did you feel any type of way coming out of it? Yeah, I felt like it was a really fun opportunity to reconnect with some guys. And there was so many cool moments from the weekend. There was one moment where the four of us who lived together at the dorms, all four junior cause guys got to kind of

Drop in and have a conversation Ryan Riddle Garrett cross Francis Blamieza And just talk about some of the silly things used to happen at the dorms back in 2003. That was cool moment There was you know some fun conversations with various guys that I played with offensive lineman Obviously Dave is a wild man Marshawn the wild man those guys, you know But there's just so many fun moments of seeing a guy and totally remembering right away and being almost surprised by what the first memory is. You know, oh, I remember you were the guy that, you know,

oh, shit, you were the guy that, you know, that pulled this prank on me. Or, hey, remember when we, you know, we're doing this, you know, doing the scooter gang thing or hey remember uh labrita that one night hey remember the party at the fiji house whatever it might be you know there's there's uh it was just so many fun fun memories with these guys and you know this reminds you like as as beautiful as this game is and it's given so much uh to all of us and we've been a lot to it the the thing that really lasts longer than any of it,

other than maybe some of the injuries is the guys, is the relationships, is the moments like that where you, the friendships and being able to pick back up on the inside jokes and the funny things you used to say and the moments that made everything. During the weekend, there was very few moments where guys are talking about I remember the stats on this game. Remember the score on this game. Nobody's saying that shit. It was all about

You know, I remember the locker room pranks. They remember this thing that happened I remember that crazy practice in Tahoe and we were playing Air Force the first week and Teddy made us go up to that school and practice and he ran our asses for 30 minutes At the end and we're all exhausted and Then we went to a water park in sacrament all the way back I was like just shit like that, you know, this is fun memories. That's really what matters, you know So it's the relationships and obviously when you have success, it's really special in a bond even more But that team had a special sauce. We're all just loving believe each other and want to play for each other

You don't want to be the guy to let the guy Next to you down. You want to be the guy who you could count on all the time. And we had a number of guys play a long time and leave the Renzel Alexander, LPL Asour played a number of years, Matt Giordano played a number of years. But it was a bunch of just tough dudes who've been through a really tough time at Cal when they were one and ten. Coach Teffer came in, brought in a lot of us junior college guys.

Hit on a lot of them, JJ Arrington, Garrett Cross, Ryan Rill, Francis I mentioned. You know a lot of guys who changed kind of the culture of that team and we had a lot of fun together so it's good to catch up with those guys. Hell yeah, it sounds like an amazing weekend, happy you got to experience that because like I think that is the big thing that people talk about whenever they leave the game Everybody talks about I miss the locker room. I miss the boys. I miss the moments now We'll transition from that to this particular aspect of football conversation while you were doing your bye week boy There's a lot of chatter about you brother Okay

Just won't let you know that and I assume you were checked out because that's kind of how you go about operating and then you get updated on some shit and then there's, whoa, I didn't know that was happening. So here is basically, we think the first report that kind of started a bunch of reports, Diana Rossini, who works for the athletic, which is owned by the New York times, reported that at this point, after conversations with sources with the team and around the league my understanding is that Rogers still wants to play in 2025 just not for the New York Jets and then that laid out a bunch of different reports strained relationships you want to get they're gonna cut you you're gonna get like literally I think it all just kind of

one pretty great one landing spots and then there's he would stink on there it it was like a thousand different reports so on that particular report i think you can kind of say whatever the hell you want to say about that but uh what are your thoughts on the future and any of this bearing any credence and how much did you hear during the bye week yeah it's all true okay there we go Yeah, it's all true. Okay. Boom. He didn't go to dinner with Woody Johnson in the city.

He doesn't drop the whole thing. But 2025, have you given any solid answers? Go ahead. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we start wherever you want to start. I don't talk to that person. So I don't, you know, there's obviously people that I guess she she talks with. I don't understand what the

motivation would be or what you think you're getting out of that. But when it comes to me, I can I can tell you again, you know, my circle is really small. I'm not talking to people who are talking to people like that. So so this is like, at best, it's a third game, a telephone with me. And I don't have, you know, I don't have relationship with reporters who are going to break stories like this. As far as my future goes, I haven't told anybody in my life that I want to play in 2025 and not in the Jets. So that's 100% false. I actually said the opposite.

I said that I'm going to wait and see what happens at the end of the season and if they want me back and what happens with Brick and what happens with the offensive staff and obviously the GM at the time and you know, then they just fired Joe. There's a lot of things out of my control when it comes to that. But I've really enjoyed my time in New York. I mean, obviously we haven't had the success that we've all wanted to have, but you know, I've made some great friendships on the team. I've enjoyed living in Jersey.

I've enjoyed time in the city. I've enjoyed living in Jersey. I've enjoyed time in the city I've enjoyed getting to know the fans And I came here to win here. So I'm not jumping off ship, you know, like oh, I definitely want to play and not in New York Like I don't even know if I want to play it but New York would be my first option Okay, so let's talk about what you just said there You don't even know if you want to play yet, because then there was also reports that you're playing through an injury right now, and you're refusing to get scans

because you don't want them to say that you can't play, and then you're going to maybe be put on IR, or they maybe were going to cut you. Whenever you say you don't even know if you want to play, is that because of mentally, physically, what is kind of the thought behind that? And are you refusing to get scans? And how injured are you right now?

I think that is information that people should know whenever they're watching you potentially play, you know? Well, I feel great right now. I mean, I had the week off. I felt really good last week. You know, last game we played against the Colts. I felt, you know, as good as I felt in a long time. I will not willingly go on IR without an injury.

When it comes to scans you know first of all and played 20 years I know my body better than anybody. Second of all I got a great relationship with Zuff over there and the doctors on staff and we had a lot of great conversations where they you know diagnosed what I was dealing with. And I told them how I was feeling. And we talked about the possibilities of a plan and rehab and what it would take. And there was no mandate ever, you gotta get this scan. And then I was like, I ain't fucking getting a scan. It was, listen, how do you feel?

I told them, I know my body well. What do you see in your diagnosis? Okay, what are the risks of playing? What are the likelihood of playing? What kind of treatment do I gotta do to get back? And that was that. There wasn't any weirdness around that. It was normal conversations.

Like MRIs are used a lot of times to figure out what's going on if you're not quite sure. You know, I have knee pain. Okay, I need to get MRI to see is there what it's going on as a bone bruise? Is it, you know, cartilage, you know, has some perforations in it? Or is there a ligament something when it comes to, you know, especially the hamstring, I don't know what else they were talking about. You know, I met with the guys, I let them do the examination,

I told them what I was feeling, and we had great communication through the whole thing. Your hoodie's hitting the speaker thing on there, so there is a little bit of shh in between some of the words that you're saying because you're old school. Oh, I hate that, man, that's terrible. Well, that's one of the downfalls of the old school. That's one of the downfalls. You know,'s a lot of upside. Protecting the shirt. Love Saturn. Sweet shirt. Saturn.

Those rings. Okay, you were excited. Love Saturn. Oh, look at the sky, brother. What do we got? Oh, we got Saturn. We got Saturn here. We got Saturn.

Hell yeah. We still got everything you said. It was just a couple different times. Don't worry about that. We heard everything. I don't want anybody taking any more shit out of context. Make sure we hear everything that's said. Okay, last thing for me before AJ and the boys have questions,

obviously for you about everything going on in your world. Whenever you say you don't even know if you want to play next year, what does that mean? What does that mean? Like for you, you just... Well, I've been, I feel like I've been kind of year to year. And obviously last year getting hurt, my whole focus was trying to get back to the end of the season

and then getting back to the season. Again, you know, when you're 40 going on 41, you're obviously at the end of your career. So there's a lot of things that obviously if it's New York, they have to want me to be here. And then the new GM, new staff all have to want me to be with the Jets. And then body-wise, I've got to see how I'm feeling and if I want to sign up to go back to the grind and all that. But it feels good. I'm healthy now.

It's not as much fun when you're dealing with the kind of rehab time all the time. So if I can stay healthy the rest of the year and play the way I wanna play and everybody feels good about bringing me back, then there's a decision there. And if not, then there's all the other options. I think at this point I'm open to everything and attached to nothing. So it's a good place to be.

Hey, who knows what the future holds? Sure. We'll wait until then to figure out what it is, but I appreciate you clearing some air. Like I am not, you know, there's a lot of things that have to unfold before any decision is made. What year is this for you in the NFL?

20. Congrats, man. Hell yeah. Good new decades. It's really good. It's really good. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. It's a lot.

Shout out to Saturn too. How many rings are on Saturn? Oh, so many, man. Uncountable. So many. It's really good. It's really good. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. It's a lot. Shouts of Saturn too. How many rings? So many, man. So many. So many. It's crazy.

They're still trying to figure it out. Go ahead, AJ. Hey, Adam, you said obviously you don't know if you want to play next year. How does it feel compared to maybe years in the past? Last year, excluding that because we know tear to the Achilles early and it's always, hey, we're going to do whatever it takes to come back. But how do you feel now compared to maybe the last two three four years when you kind of we're going year to year and figuring it out I

Don't think I was really going you two years like if it had 20 and 21. I mean 22 I I knew my time in Green Bay was probably at an end and they wanted to move on so that Kind of allowed me to think about if I still wanted to play. And then when I got traded in New York, I definitely wanted to give at least two good years. Now, there's obviously opinions about whether or not I've given any good years. Obviously, last year was an injury and this year hasn't gone as well as anybody would have liked. But I have really enjoyed my time.

These have been two of the most important years of my life and two of the best years of my life as much as it's been frustrating and difficult. It's been two really beautiful years of the ups and downs and the in-betweens. But again, there's a lot that goes into it. You've got to feel body-wise, like you wanna give it a go. Health-wise, mental, all the things that go into it. And then you wanna be in a spot where you feel like you can win and you're valued.

So a lot can change. Again, I'm open to whatever comes and not attached to anything. But playing in New York would obviously be my first choice if I want to play. Not a baby. Hey, I like hearing that. Cause I read it anywhere but there. Yeah, bingo.

That's what they said. I didn't like that. Well, I know that. They came back. We had a great group of guys. I mean, they just traded for Devante and it's a good core of older players, great young players, you know, come in the second contract stuff. So I don't know. I mean, it's, and then you went in New York,

you can do some specials. So, um, okay. So let's talk about that. So when you get there, coach Salah is the coach, Joe Douglas is the general manager. Now coach Salah is no longer the coach and Joe Douglas no longer a general manager. When Coach Schaul is no longer the coach, and Joe Douglas no longer a general manager. When that news happens, are you blindsided by it? What is the, because obviously everybody on the internet says to you, you ordered a hit. You fired. On Joe Douglas, obviously that's what's, not everybody.

A portion of the internet is always going to believe that. Remember, you didn't, you were immunized, remember the whole thing. That happened, so that's how they're gonna feel forever in this entire conversation. But when Joe Douglas gets fired last week, what is the first thought? And did you know or did anybody really know

what was coming? How does that kinda come together from your perspective? Well, I didn't know. I was on a plane about to head back to California and got a call I Love Joe, you know, I spent a lot of time with Joe a lot of conversations. He's a fucking great man he's a damn good general manager and

I really enjoyed our conversations I'm disappointed because I had a, you know, a hand in it, I had an opportunity to, you know, to play better and to keep keep them here. So I feel I feel bad about that because he's a great human. The human aspect of this is tough because there's families involved with people involved. Joe is such a great dude and I have so much love and respect for him. Can't say I was fully surprised though because there was a helicopter that landed practice

on that Tuesday and landed practice on that Tuesday. And I don't know, I just felt like something crazy was about to go down. Maybe isn't crazy outside the building, but when the helicopter landed mid practice, I was like, is that not normal for New York? What happened in Dallas? Chair does. I mean, does he come on a helicopter? I just knew something might be going down

here. And I was like, damn, I hope it's not Joe. And then a couple hours later, they whacked him. Yeah, it's Joe at the knees. Good luck out there, Joe. Good luck, Joe. You ever ride on that chopper with Woody? Yeah, you guys ever take trips together saying who we fire next? Christopher. I have not. People are gonna say you have. It's inevitable. Oh what did Aaron Rogers do this past offseason? He became a helicopter by the way. This guy he's always high without the two-ze-eight. Well he's in a helicopter that's why this entire thing he's got going on. Woody's helicopter now, so let's get back to this particular season

Obviously head coach gone GM gone still got a lot of ball left to be played after the bye week D-Bot has a question for you. Yeah, you said the body, you know feels good Obviously you're banged up at this point in season everybody has playing is but we're mind body and soul show here So how's the mind going forward for this home stretch? Especially obviously not just for yourself, but still having to be that leader in the building with things obviously haven't necessarily going you guys way? Yeah, that's a great question D-Butt. Because it takes all three to you know to be able to do what you want to do in the facility on the field. Part of that is

learn how to balance the mind body and soul and you want to do in the facility and on the field. Part of that is learn how to balance the mind, body and soul and the physical, the mental and spiritual part of all of it. I think the most important thing is to be present with all of it. And the mind can go crazy and you can have 50 to 90,000 thoughts a day and it can take you all different places throughout the day and distract you and you miss out on great opportunities that are kind of right in front of you to connect with your teammates and make an impact on their life or say something to them that might mean something or listen and learn something from them that might really impact your life. So I think that's the most important thing whether you're eight and three or three and

eight and playing for the playoffs or playing for pride. It's how do you show up every single day? Can you be the same person? Can you bring the same type of energy and enthusiasm? If you can, it's a reminder to everybody how much this game means to you. You just love football. You love to compete. This is a full-time job. And you don't just turn it off when you want to or play when you have a good record.

There's pride in performance at all times and you know I got a lot of pride in what I've accomplished and I got a little love for my teammates and I want to go out there and play as well as I can but at the same time I want to be real present every single day in a locker home. I want to be present At practice I want to you know continue to lead The best that I can and look for ways to impact my teammates because like I said When you go to a reunion after 20 years and you see these guys You hear some cool comments over the years. They really give you a lot of a lot of pride in what you accomplished and and

Good feelings about the impact you can have on people. And there were multiple comments shared both ways. I got to share with Coach Ted for what he meant to me and how much him pushing me turned me into the player that I was today. And I heard from multiple teammates about things that happened, words of encouragement or leadership style that they really appreciate over the years and meant a lot to them. And those are the things that you really feel good about at the end of the day. So I'm going to keep looking for those opportunities with my guys and keep trying to be present

and play the game I love. That did have to be a pretty cool moment, you know, especially as somebody that, you know, a lot of people say negative things about negative things about somebody from 20 years ago and like, Hey, you remember when he did this? And then I see you do this. That's like a cool little trip down negative things about negative things about somebody from 20 years ago and like hey You remember when he did this and then I see you do this That's like a cool little trip down memory lane feel good about yourself as you should Yeah, yeah, and I don't give a shit about what these people are saying about me Any of them? None of them

Fuck them all. I mean nobody nobody I would I would you know not ask advice from I don't worry about opinions from People I wouldn't ask them for advice That's good. Hey, that's good mindset. Good. Well, that's good mindset. I like that. You've had to have that now though because you know Boy, that's why I can't wait for I don't know if it's been a they still they still got to do the back status They haven't been doing it. Yeah, okay, they kind of stopped doing that Still gotta let everybody know. Yeah, they still, they still got to do the back status. They haven't been doing it. Yeah. Okay. They kind of stopped doing that. They still got to let everybody know. Yeah. Let everybody know what their back status is.

So people can put it in the right context when they're taking these. Every once in a while, I'll get somebody who comes up to me and be like, Hey, you think Aaron's ever going to forget about like the people that attacked him during the vaccine stuff? And it's like, as somebody that was in the mentions

alongside probably half the amount of stuff, I don't think you forget that. I don't think you remember. Go ahead. Remember the member the old adage, you know, like, forgive and forget. There's a little extra something that goes with that. And if there's some sort of admission of maybe wrongdoing at some point along the way, like maybe the, you know, of maybe wrongdoing at some point along the way. Like maybe the ridiculous or welling things

that we mandates we put on society or maybe the things that we said or did or maybe this miracle vaccine wasn't always meant to be and some of the things that we didn't said to people were wrong. Then I think we can all kind of move past it. When you try and make it seem like nothing ever happened, we never mandated a vaccine.

We never fired anybody for not getting vaccinated. We never humiliated people for their opinions. Mm. Called them murderers. I was called a murderer in multiple different languages for even allowing you to speak about your 500-page report you did on the entire thing. Wow.

I was called a murderer. That's what I was called. I was like, I feel actually terrible, genuinely terrible about myself. Why are you letting this guy talk and tell his side of the story? Why are you doing this? Yeah. Don't let him do his own research. You know, but that's why, Hey, look, you know, maybe, uh, maybe things will change, but Bobby in charge. Oh, wow. Look out. Look out.

You looking for a cabinet position? Bobby. For real. Well, well, well. Let's hear what Bobby's got to say. There's some people quaking in their boots right now. I could fathom. If it means anything, I would like to let you know that, let's say this upcoming season,

and we'll talk about this a lot, but we want to let you know, it's been a hell of a ride these last five years. It has been a hell of a ride. These last five years. You're dropping me. You're dropping me. Yep.

You're dropping me. Sorry. Actually, ladies and gentlemen, this is over. Forever. The Jets might not be putting them on IOR or cutting them, but we fucking are. This guy's gone. No, it's been cool, man, legitimately.

And that's why every time you start talking about that, I very much remember the things that were being said at that time by a lot of people with a lot of power about he was like the face of it at one point. This is the guy. Spoofing on SNL. President.

Yeah. President SNL. I mean, other countries. I mean, you were the this guy's worst human that exists right now. Just want to let you know that this is the guy. And then you had your little Halloween party. Oh, this guy thinks it's fun. Cool costume.

This guy's hanging out with people that are Vax. This anti-vax guy is going gonna ruin the rest of the world. We'd like to let you know, it's been a fun ride, brother. No matter what happens in the future, football wise. Now, speaking of rides. It's been my pleasure. Hell yeah. All right, see you never, dude.

All right, now, let's get back to the ride that has been your relationship with the New York Jets, shall we? Because Tone Diggs actually has a very good question about something that had been reported a few times. Yeah, reported a few times about the guy that landed in the helicopter at practice, Woody Johnson, the owner of the Jets. There's been reports that he didn't want you starting anymore. There's been reports that you guys, great relationship. You guys went out to dinner a few weeks ago out in the city, out in the town. It was a great dinner.

So based off of those reports, what is the relationship? And now that he might be an ambassador again to England, what is the relationship with Woody and the Johnson family? I mean, I think it's a good relationship. The Johnson that I went to dinner with was not maybe the one that was ported. Oh, a different Johnson. I have been to dinner with Woody before. It's been a little while, but yeah, I have a lot of gratitude for all the Johnsons for bringing me in. I had some good conversations over the last two years

But no like I would say, you know Chris is maybe around a little bit more than Woody You know who come on the on the road trips with us on the plane so I've had more conversations I would say with with Christopher than Woody but No, I got a lot of love and appreciation and gratitude for all the Johnsons. Okay, because we heard, you know, you hated them and that's why anybody but the Jets, yada yada yada. It's a never-ending, it's crazy. Do you send texts from fake phones and be like, hey, straight out of Roger's camp? You know, like the Vraeble move. Yeah, that'd be cool.'d be cool Was it variable or who was the coach that lied to?

Rappaport who was Did you hear about this I did hear about that genius, okay In the old booth, all right, let's talk about this with I don't think there's a lot of you know, there's there's There's not a lot of journalistic integrity anymore. What? Standards. Yeah, the standards are what they are. You know, there's- Come on.

Listen, I think some of the stuff that I've read, I would say the majority is limited in its truth and questionable in its content. Meaning, I don't understand why some of the articles were written last year because it seemed like they were really trying to ruin people's lives. Now, that being said, I don't understand why people would talk to some of these people. Like, maybe it's just me and my world.

I don't know anybody in my world that goes online and trolls people's social media. Like they're in the comments all the time. They just, I don't know, nobody that I have a relationship with does that. I don't have anybody, I don't believe that it's in my inner circle. They would spend any time talking to a reporter about other people's shit, or trying to slam them, or protect themselves, but unfortunately this business has turned into a lot of cover your ass, you know? And I guess that's why the, you know, I guess that's part of what this is, is people are trying to cover their ass, so they gotta, you know, have a fall guy, it was Hackett. It was Robert, you know, it was Joe then it's me and that's fine. I can take it

I don't care and those guys can't do I mean I talked to still talk to Robert a lot. He's doing great He's he's totally fine You know, but it's still like the slander that went his way. I think was totally unfair slander. They went Hacks way and has gone Todd's way for slander they went hacks way and has gone Todd's way. It's just it's it's it's interesting the motivation behind people who would try and leak things and then again, the the actual content and the fact around the leaking is usually very, you know, very limited, I would say every now and then they have some stuff that's right on.

You're like, what the fuck, how'd they get that? You know? But I would say a lot of times it's either over exaggerated or just not really that close to the truth. Yeah, it's an interesting gig that they have because they can assume that a source is good, but who knows if source is actually good, you know? But they can say source should be good because of this particular person.

Then the information that they have to confirm on the other side, it is a timeless job. There's a motion, you know, there's emotions, there's perspective that informs if the three of us on the screen here all saw the same thing, we maybe wouldn't have the same experience. So your version of what actually happened, AJ is usually false, but your version of of what happened is gonna differ slightly from what happened to Pat and what happened to me and then when there's emotions involved and You're covering your ass a little bit then it's easy for things to be exaggerated past the point of You know what actually happened in the situation obviously, so it is you know, it's it's the environment that we're in I won't say they've gotten everything wrong. There's been some things that they've,

they've definitely gotten right. Usually not a high percentage when it comes to me every now and then they get something and I'm like, damn, how'd they know that? But I would say more often than not, they're like, ah, that never fucking happened. That's bullshit. Yeah, so your world is a little bit different

than I think everybody else's because everything you do has been covered very closely by Entertainment people sports people everything you are, you know, you know that though. So you also crossover Yeah, you but you get judged a lot, you know and by everybody Well, I think it was before that though, too, right? Yeah a little bit a little bit I was still an enigma though back then great name there ever great name there enigma. That's a great name Very on There's something

With that particular word why I have this tie have a question or not what's going on? He does actually it's a great question too because we're on a great week right now Yeah, Aaron obviously you're no stranger to playing on Thanksgiving. I don't think you ever played at home At Lambeau on Thanksgiving though, so I'm pretty usually, you know Like Packers are always playing against the Lions in Detroit, but they have a game on Sunday night Other than that the Slates, you know a couple fucking stinkers, but Where would you put like in your in your like ranking of like special of special moment games and things like that? Where is playing on Thanksgiving ranked for you?

Well, maybe somebody in the back can fact check this one, but I believe in 2015 we may have played on Thanksgiving against the Bears. Who'd be wrong on that? Maybe it's Thanksgiving week. But again, fact check me on that. It was a night game at home against Chicago. We'd lost. But that was when we took a picture. Bart Starr was there, Barbie and myself. Pretty cool picture that I have actually. Oh, that is a cool picture. That was fun. And then here in Bart S swear was pretty funny as well. This is a whole nother story because he was such a, you know,

upright man of God. He rarely ever said a foul word about anybody until he kind of had some, you know, later in his life when his kind of health issues are going. But, I think I enjoyed playing on Thanksgiving in Detroit because it was an early game and we get back. I remember being at dinner, sitting at the table to eat Thanksgiving at like six o'clock on that Thursday after I haven't played our game. We won a lot of those games.

One of my favorite memories was nothing to do with the game, but when we ran up the tunnel and they told everybody, stay in your seats here, our halftime entertainment, Nickelback. And the whole crowd was like, super loud. But, uh, but yeah, I mean, Thursdays in general, you don't really, you don't love now we've loved him this year. We're two and oh But the Thursday night games are easier because you at least get the extra little bit like Thursday playing at 1230 Eastern That makes for a short week, but I loved I loved watching football growing up because Madden and Somerall always had the game and Madden had the Turducken and you know,

you remember him giving it out to like Nate Newton and Emmett Smith and all the linemen from Dallas and you know, that was always really cool. But it's kind of one of those holidays that's always for me always been about football. So when I've gotten a few times, I got to play on it's been pretty special. Yeah, the Turkey ball getting a chance. Well, played against Pittsburgh better than Christmas better than Christmas. We had

We had Hall of Fame game. It ended up getting moved against you guys. Mm-hmm Thanksgiving Christmas and I think New Year's Day. Yeah one season cheese. How's my last year? Thanks. I'm fucking done with it I'm done putting balls on fourth downs. I'm gonna go elsewhere, but playing on Thanksgiving's cool because you know everybody's forced to watch. Yep. Everybody's like forced to watch.

Like Sunday Night Football, everybody says, everybody's watching. It's like maybe, maybe. Monday Night Football, everybody's watching. But the total audience delivered is this math equation that these networks do whenever they try to project how many people are alongside the person that's watching the TV.

So it's like each TV was a rating, you know, I think back in the day. Then inevitably somebody came by, I was like, is everybody watching alone? No, there's a least. That's four or five. So like the Thanksgiving total audience delivered is always like some massive number

because literally everybody has football on the TV so it's just like a part of Americana history almost which is why I think it's special but it does suck to not have your own Thanksgiving you know like as you're in there you're thinking to yourself like man would have been nice to maybe have Thanksgiving we're at home thank God yeah we're not on the number we liked it because we would have it when we would have Thanksgiving on Fridays yeah whole team then you can then you kind of get after a little bit jump on the river if you want to Eleven and one on Thanksgiving. I just I got in my ear there you on Thanksgiving. I Don't know if that's true

Well AI has been wrong on a few things You were right about that Bears game though. Yeah, you guys lost 17-13 Bears. They beat you guys. What did Barkstar call you? We lost. What? It wasn't me.

It wasn't what he said to me. He said to some of the people, the caretakers taking care of him. The caregivers, he had some colorful metaphors for him later in his life. He was fed up. You know, I've been thinking here for a while. All right. What is are you turkey ham? Turkey I don't I don't eat pork. Okay. Respect the diet. It's a foul way. Will you do stuffing? That is a good one.

Will you do stuffing, mashed potatoes, any of the sides or no, not with the diet we're on? No, I'm definitely, definitely in. You know, 80-20, 80-20, bro. Give me any type of casseroles we got. Sweet potatoes for sure. You call it stuffing or dressing, wouldn't you call it stuffing?

Well, apparently it's two different things. We had to look this up because there was a debate the other day. Stuffing is whenever it's cooked inside allegedly of the turkey and then stuffing can also just be dressing if it's cooked outside with stovetop. Stovetop has the winner. Stovetop has figured it out. We call it dressing in our house. I'm sure they've got some great ingredients.

It's a little America's situation. I don't think so. I don't think so. What? I don't think so. That's not true. Is it a fact? What did he say? He said, we call it dressing in my household and two Americas. No, look, this is one of those holidays where guys love some casserole.

Give me half of it separate. Give me my yams, my mac and cheese, my greens, ham. Turkey's gotta be there just because. I'm with the D-Buds, casseroles are not. It just gotta be there. You know, casserole, that's a sweet potato casserole. I would take one of those. Agreed, 10-4 on that one.

We put a casserole, exactly, yeah. That's a banger. Yeah, sweet potato is the winner. It's much better than just basic ass, regular ass potatoes. That's not true. Yeah. That is not true. Not even a little bit very true. Hey, Jay. How do you feel about mashed potatoes? I You know, I think it's garbage. Oh the guy the guy that eats Chicken and rice for every meal you're like, but if you slop some on your fork with some turkey

It's okay if you put flavor on it some on your fork with some turkey it's okay if you put flavor on it something isn't just bread there's a bunch of shit on stuffing as well that's the same thing potato what are you talking about no I will I will tell you itself is a combination of shit okay mashed potatoes is just a that's what it is Yeah, if you just take potatoes mash them up. Yes, that is what it is But when you're serving them on Thanksgiving is not just hey look, I just grounded a bunch of potatoes up eat them They do what shit the way you feel right now is not how other mashed potato lovers who are mad at me for my take About mashed potatoes feel I they're saying give me the just can't do that

That's that's that dumb for any food across the board. Not stuffing. By itself. Yes that is what it is. So the comp no stuffing is just bread you know they serve just nothing crumb that's what they do. Oh God, I'll take a photo of it later. They're serving it at Whole Foods right now. They're serving it at Whole Foods right now. I'll take a photo of it. We'll definitely see it. Send it in. The Cranberry, do you like Cranberry, Eric?

I do, yes, I do. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I think, DB, that you lost AJ there when you started talking about the greens, yam. Man, man, man. What do you mean you lost me? What's that? That lady's about to be everybody's time. Oh yeah. What a legend. Heard that you AJ do you put on a little Chuck Berry record when you're on your Thanksgiving? You mean the greatest guitar player of all time? No, I do not. But

maybe I will this Thanksgiving. Matt Rushmore. Of guitar play? Guitar play he's up there. Yeah and pissing Yes, okay and on On that note we can't thank you enough for joining us here on air Rogers Tuesday fifth season of it all. It's a It's a wonderful conversation. We hope you're enjoying your own Thanksgiving conversations and reflecting upon what life is could be and what it has been thank you all so much be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life like dude wipes see you tomorrow goodbye nail it right there nice show hey with Tony right up here Oh Juan Soto bang he's about to make 700 make 650 million Yeah, from the Kamui Sports Group.

Do you think he's going to defer all his salary like Shohei did? He shouldn't. It's fucking bullshit. How do you feel about that? Ty is so mad about that situation. Fucking horse shit. Why? What do you mean? Why? Because he's a fucking first-ballot generational, maybe the best player ever. You can't just fucking give a guy and be like, know yeah we'll pay you in 65 years you won't be

you won't count anything against your team's fucking salary cap for the next 10 years so you can just you know fuck it get the best player ever and then go out and get whoever the fuck else you want and you know you can defer their salaries too maybe if you're lucky maybe she'll hell fucking die in like a plane crash or something WHY! and then you'll be off the hook and you won't have to fucking play You're a bad guy. I don't want that to happen. Obviously. I'm just saying you're a terrible guy. It's not how baseball works. They got to pay the fucking luxury tax. You got to pay a year over year over year. And by doing that, you're fucking around man. Sorry. They beat the game. You guys are mad about them. They're cheating. It beat

the game. They just willing to pay the tax, right? You're willing to pay the luxury. Well, yeah, you're not paying if you're paying the guy's salary a million bucks. It's all back end. Figured it out. It's for them. Sounds like Gavin Dinesom figured it out. How they were able to do that.

I think he did. All right. Figuring out other stuff. It's a good day. I'm happy. I is a good day. I'm happy you won it. Go ahead. I'm not even.

Come on! I'm proud to get going there. I hear this. I'm proud to get going there. Take the bait! I hear this club. Woo! Hey, AJ tried, didn't he?

Almost happened. AJ certainly tried. It's Thanksgiving. I'm thankful for all of this. And Aaron, I'm happy you had a great trip back to Berkeley. Good luck this upcoming week. You guys are playing the Seattle Seahawks mm-hmm let's go football team good luck out there come off a big thanks guys hey happy Thanksgiving man appreciate all you guys yeah we'll see you next week or IR

cut we'll see man, open to everything. Attached to nothing. You felt good about that. You felt good whenever that came out. That was a good bar. It was. Yeah. Yeah.

Four time MVP, Super Bowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Open to anything attached to nothing. Okay. Save that one. Okay. Go ahead and put that one down.

Save that for Thanksgiving night. Go ahead and join. Not gonna be a lot of that. There's gonna be a lot of attached twos. Uh-huh. Yeah, and open to nothing. They're gonna have that one completely. Let's remember Thanksgiving. Let's just enjoy ourselves. Oh yeah. Let's just enjoy ourselves. Sure. Yeah. Let's have that, you know, right there on the tree. That's not the sound it makes, brother. What, let's have that You know right there on that's not the sound it makes brother. What that's not the sound it makes. Oh, yeah That's what it sounds like I can't wait. Oh, yeah, I can't wait to take a photo of that fucking shit in Whole Foods I wasn't planning on going today. Usually I go like every other day today I'll go just to take a photo. You're gonna Whole Foods every other day. You're addicted to this place I love Whole Foods, man. I love it. Why it's good. It's good vibes in there

If you really want you stop and get a beer everyone knows your name Food there too, I said food there Bar and a cookie bar. It's movies. There's an actual bar too. Guys just get boozed up at Whole Foods. Just like John Eagle. Talking about doing Christmas.

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AP time. Let's take a look at how last week ended up in the pick segment shall we between Myself and AJ Hawk we picked every single NFL game against the spread. Oh we tied. Okay Oh, wow, you're close brother and two ties there nine one close man, I Got time a lot of season left a lot of season one not enough. I don't think brother. Yeah Away, yeah, the only focus on this week moral victories Remember yesterday when you picked the Chargers I said, are you like 10? Yeah, I should have waffled. Why didn't I waffle you don't waffle at all and to be clear

I thought it was Chargers as well another person. I thought it was Chargers a nine-year NFL event Ladies and gentlemen host of everything DB good D bad D Which we'll be watching in a matter of moments because he would not be here tomorrow to celebrate obviously Thanksgiving down there ladies I'm in there But I felt good about the Chargers pick but hey some people are asking questions now about the Chargers team I look against good football team. I know so now they gotta answer those questions down the stretch I can't wait for somebody to maybe ask that question to Jim Harbaugh every football team against good football team. I know so now they got to answer those questions down the stretch I can't wait for somebody to maybe ask that question to Jim Harbaugh every football team's good football team I see NFL, you know

And then he tells a story about professional athletes. He'll tell some he'll make some metaphor to the difference between Professional athletes and those who are playing in the NFL and everybody else how every team is a good team Every team's getting paid. The amount of one score games that happen in the NFL would tell you that every team could potentially win. But this Baltimore Ravens team feels different. It does. And watching last night, I kind of, I felt that.

That's a game that I thought the Jim Harbaugh effect, they would win. I thought Chargers win this game last night. That's why I only took the Ravens because you took the Chargers so I had to go opposite but then as I'm watching it I'm like this team's built to do it like what Derek Henry being the you know added to that offense and obviously on defense without Roquan Smith you knew that was gonna be a problem against a run game and they

were certainly getting exposed early in that particular fashion but let's assume he gets healthy with a hamstring and he's back on the field for them before too long for that whole thing it's like this team I feel like this year built differently than years past and I think that's why I took away from last night AJ Hawk. Yeah they are. I mean Derek Hinder just adds such an element to that team like when he gets the ball and he's going downhill I'm just thinking of every defender's like man please don't let me to be the first guy to get to it. Like I want to be the second I need to be the second and third guy. I do not want to be the first guy when this guy has an eight ten yard running start downhill. If you be the first guy to get to it. Like I want to be the second, I need to be the second and third guy. I do not want to be the first guy when this guy

has an eight, 10 yard running start downhill. If you're the first guy, you're eating Patrick or cards sometimes. So either way you're screwed. Either way it's a bad kid. You got to be the third guy. You got to be the third guy in most situations to not have to take on a 250 or 285 pound

downhill running back. I mean, it's Lamar also under center this year a little bit. I mean, it's like, it's a different look for everything they have going on. Yeah, and they got a late bye week. It still hasn't happened yet. It's week 14. But even if you are that third guy, it's like, hey, yeah, you don't have to take on the first and maybe you don't have to take on the second.

But if you don't tackle Derek Henry, it's a touchdown. So if you miss the tackle, you're. He pulls away. Right there. You got to make that. That's a very, very difficult tackle to make. He's trying to knock you out with those stiff arms. I never understood why are offensive guys... Yeah.

Why can they do it? Hey, Jay, you wonder that same thing? Huh. Because some of them are awesome. Like Saquon hit the one the other night, I think it was middle of chest. I think it was like middle of chest. But there are some highlights, Derrick Henry has a few of them,

where it is a open palm jab to side of head through ground. And it's like, damn, if a defender was to do that, what would happen? I'm happy they don't call it, because you know, that's physical football. But it would suck to play defense against that. Yeah, same with like lower in the head. Like Darius Slay, He got knocked out of the game

when the Titan caught that ball on Sunday night and kind of put his head down and to get a few more extra yards like if you're on the defense you do You're getting booted at 15 yards. Yeah in the Ram truck segment We had a last week and an offensive guy who was running full speed and just literally Just just right sometimes they called it. I disagree with making that I don't think they should be a call. I think running back should be able to do whatever he wants. But every once in a while they do make that call though, if they're running back lowers his head. I haven't seen a lot. I haven't either. They've been fine. Yeah, right. In the NFL, not

colleges. Yeah. How do you feel about college football player Frank and coming out tonight? I don't know. I can't wait to watch McElroy and hopefully Joey has a few you know polarizing things he can throw out there for people but yeah I'm excited. Ohio State has another massive win because Ohio State beats Indiana though just Indiana playing them their strength of schedule now is much different. Because they play the number two team in the country is what everybody's assuming Ohio State's gonna be. So Indiana's strength of schedule is gonna look vastly different than the triple digits ranking that it had before. And then the amount of wins in conference, in their season, with the chaos that just happened in the SEC, I think the fallout that we thought could come from this particular game, if it went the way that it went, three scores,

and instead, I don't think it's gonna matter as much. I think they're gonna value wins just as in general, more so now than maybe they would have last week. Yeah, I mean, what? I think I saw they jumped like 50 spots in strength of schedule just cause they played Ohio State. So is strength of schedule a bunch of mumbo jumbo? I don't know. But yeah, I think they're gonna go off of wins

first and foremost in this tonight. Heather, Decker. Perrin, right? What's that, Indiana? Sorry in first and foremost in this tonight Heather Dern, right? What's that? Indiana? Sorry. Sorry. Indiana's in if they beat Purdue, right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah gotta be Yeah, okay. Hey that Purdue game. What a scary fucking they're going for real shit for real. I don't know. I think so, too I think there's a chance that Indiana does that especially with how good they've been coming off this loss How it ended how sing Nettie's gonna be talking to the boys all week. Yes All that point all bets are off when you're playing for the old oak and bucket Makers for not everybody know

You know they call this boy, so I heard They got the spoiler makers 50 points you think they win by yeah, 29 and a half spread That is a lot but signetti's team got a chance to go to the 12 team playoff probably If they get a win, that's a lot to pull from especially after a loss from Ohio State And I think signetti will certainly dabble in that particular department. Ryan Day talking about the the game with Michigan. I don't remember we aired it earlier in the show I think we're talking to Heather Denich. We weren't talking to you. You Ohio State Buckeye, you living in the area, you understanding this game and meaning. Whenever you see Ryan Day say this on game time with Ryan Day. We felt what it like what it's like to not win this game and it's bad.

It's one of the worst things that's happened to me in my life, you know, quite honestly. Seriously. Other than losing my father and a few other things, it's quite honestly for my family the worst thing that's happened. So we can never have that happen. So first of all, what do you say? No, no, nothing. Did you smell that? Smell what? What just kind of smells weird in here right now

Are you being serious? I'm being I didn't but then when you mentioned it or what? No, no, it's not that you guys having a stroke terrible food Really? Yeah. Yeah, that's on me. I'm sorry I completely fucked this. I'm sorry Inside voice inside inside voice showing up. So you're saying there's a terrible food smell in here right now a weird food smell I don't know if it's terrible. Hmm The smell like onions Brussels sprouts. There's some onion in it. I yeah, I got a whiff of it Okay, so that's all me. I fucked up. I'm sorry. Who you blame? I you fudged up. I fudged up. Well, it's okay

I mean, it's a good conversation to have because you know, this is office talk. This is office bone is new in here He might not know he could be just like eating a whole onion out there like the Grinch just eating Yeah, my boy There's a chance D bones doing that I mean, you never know but the microwave food decisions are certainly a conversation certainly a conversation Everyone's why you turn corner in there, and it's like Did we just cook a salmon like a live salmon in this place? Eight to ten hours of that in that place if you're doing that yeah

But then you can't blame because it's like trying to eat healthy what you want Yeah, no you can eat fish outside if you want to make fish and set with her in a place with other humans You can go outside well. You know depending okay. I appreciate that. That is your rules and regs I think it is naturally become the rules and regs here because of how the reaction is every time that it happens But let's talk about reactions happening Ryan day talking in that game time with Ryan day Why didn't you tell us about that show? First of all, I should have asked him about game time with Ryan day Whatever he was on a program should put it put it over that's on me that's his weekly hit and him talking like that how does that make you feel legit like I

think the reason why he's saying that he says his family as well is like everybody feels this and they've been on a bad run with this Michigan team now they're 21-point favorites I assume it'd be impossible to deal with as a family the Dave family if they lose this game over there in Ohio? Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, seeing that, it really hits home of what it means and how much pressure, I guess, is on the coach when things haven't gone well against Michigan and what it can do for like

what a victory can do for you. But yeah, I mean, I see Ryan Day's family. I saw Ryan Day's family the week of the Michigan game last year because my daughters play each other in basketball a lot of times and Yeah, like you can see it would not be a fun situation like a win would make you So happy but it would just be so much relief I believe at the same time because the loss is just it's so fine like man I don't get another chance for 364 days to try to write this wrong and right would just happen like it's a tough spot. It's a spot you want to be in but yeah, it definitely means a lot to them It is a spot you want to be in because that means it's a big deal and anytime you work in a profession

You want to get to something that is considered a big deal like that is what you know, especially in sports You're trying to get to these moments in these rivalries you earn the pressure that comes alongside These situations by all the work and talent that you have and everything like that. But I couldn't even imagine him having to walk around. You said girls basketball games, that means he's in a gym, so he has to walk in the door, right?

When you walk in a gym, everybody on earth sees. It's like a WWE entrance into a gym. Every single time you walk into a gym, because it's just one door normally, and it's right next to the bleachers. So like you're walk, everybody fucking sees the entire thing. It's also Ryan Day walking in there with his kids. He has to look like dad, but instead he knows as soon as he walks in there, everybody in

there is just going, why is he here? And this guy, you know, that's his whole life. And what Michigan had done to go win the national championship, they're on a complete opposite end of that spectrum, even though he's won a lot of fucking games. It's like this week, favorite by 21? Yep. Oh my God. It's the spoiler game.

But what's his record against Michigan? Not good. Not great. One and three? One and three, I believe. One and three? So he did get a win, okay. Cause three losses, right?

Three straight here. But like, yeah, think of it. Wait, yeah, exactly. But how big of a difference, how it can change things, I guess, and how people view you and how it goes. Coach Trestle came in in his first year at Ohio State. They went to Michigan and beat them. And I don't think they were supposed to win that game.

And that would just launch his career. Next year he wins the national championship. Goes on defeated. Like that just launches you in the right direction urban to forever right because he's what what's ever know that's like the name of some bars or some shit right don't you have like some something named seven and oh i think the chop house maybe does he know anyone that works there or to remember anyone that works there what are you talking about oh yeah he was on the manning cast last night told the story that when he was the head coach of the Tennessee Titans and played Urban Myers Jacksonville Jaguars We have it. Yeah, we do. We have it. Here's Brayville

You know, I feel I can feel I can relate with Owen Wilson I was listening earlier, you know Urban Meyer asked him do I know you and Urban and Myers coaching the Titans he was coaching the Jaguars and he actually said the same thing to me. I said, yeah I'm the head coach for the Titans and I worked for you for two years. So, Urban Meyers shit talking is, do I know you? I love that. Said it to Owen Wilson, said it to Mike Frable. Mike Frable couldn't wait to tell that story you think? Yeah, I'm sure. I don't know if he's ever told that before but the Manny cast is the perfect place to do it.

I think so too. Vraib's dog, OG gee does everybody in Ohio State get along with everybody in Ohio State Why is urban Meyer Duncan on Mike Vrabel? Yeah, I don't know I would like to talk to raves and see how this came about what was like the tone Urban had when he asked him this like there's I had some follow-up questions for sure. Yeah I'm in your division. Also, I was some follow-up questions for sure yeah I'm in your division also I was dealing under you break I like that urban virus shit talking though knows no boundaries I could have worked for him could have we spent family and holidays together hey coach good to see you do I know you I'll see you think of a shit

talking yeah I think it was yeah I know of a shit talking. Yeah, I think it was yeah, I do I know you as shit talking Yeah, I don't think you you remember that was my thing. Yeah, no way Mike Frable for sure he didn't know bad memory. I mean there's a chance member He was like watching film with the Rams and was like this 99. It's pretty good, huh? Right. Oh, yeah, they said every week is Alabama. Yeah, like yeah, no shit Right. Oh, yeah, they said every week is Alabama. Yeah, like yeah, no shit Little bit better than Alabama. No, he's shit talking. Yeah, I don't know They just died right there There's Mike variable a couple couple spots down from coach urban Meyer doing the urban Meyer at Ohio State lean Or stance that we've seen him in it's uh, I love that about Vrabes

I enjoy the fact and also that's how every Meyer talk shit It's uh, I love that about Vrabes. Uh, I enjoy the fact. And also that's how I remember to talk shit to you. Do I know you? I didn't think it's pretty good. That's pretty good. It's not bad at all. If he's just dropping that on everybody, do you got any of these? I got fucking multiple schools. That must've been too. Just like, wait, her Marlena laughing his face and then give an answer? What do you think? How do you think it... Yeah, that's like I'm saying, I had a lot of follow ups when I heard this, but Braves

had to laugh. Yeah, like then what? When you said that to him, Braves, how was his response? Good time. Oh. So are you guys... So Ohio State, how do we... Ohio State, we're all like this, right?

We know who Blake Fray was. Oh yeah, big time. Yeah. Ryan Day said maybe you guys come back and put some pads on I don't know if you saw that oh Yeah, oh yeah, Bobby has Bobby has done that Bobby has worn pads to practice Yeah, you know that we've talked we told you he used to go to bowl practice when I think they changed the rule And you can't do that But remember Saban started using X players to come back in bowl practice Bobby did it two or three years in a row

It always would try to get me to do it. And I was like, no, no chance. Bobby was still in the NFL. How old is Bobby? Yeah, how old is Bobby? Whatever he's doing. He's 41 right now. He probably was 36, 37.

How many years out of the NFL? Six, seven years, man. You just want to strap him up. Yeah. I got an opportunity to put the pads on again. I'm ready for this. I've been waiting. He told me he said it'd be great man. Like honestly, it's funny You go a little nine on seven. He said they don't sit. I'll make you do individual drills or anything. I was like, okay, that's thanks, Bob I'm glad I'm doing the individual. They don't make you you're an adult I was like, I don't know Bob. Those guys are pretty but I see some of those Oh Lyman They would just swallow me. I don't I'm not gonna go throw my head in there.

Yeah, how do you perform? Yeah, what was he like? He said he felt good for real. He said he felt really good. Getting deflections on any passes or anything? I'm sure Bobby was, you know, Tommy try hard out there. I bet he was hustling. He need tape.

Who was the coach? Urban. That was urban, I believe. Yeah. Does he know Bobby? He knows Bobby. No way. He he know Bobby? He knows Bobby. No way. He's not asking.

He knows Bobby. Bobby was his shadow. What do you mean? Bobby's at the Woody Hayes every day. 42? Yeah, I think I remember that kid. I remember he played good ball for us one bowl practice. I don't know. No. God, our boys ready.

Kept messing up our look. We can never get this playoff because our scout team bat middle backer was kit wreck and shot. I said, who is this guy? They said, he's a 36 year old. I said, oh, that. Okay. That's how he's seeming to the playing out there. Ryan Day his confidence going into Indiana. I assume it's the same going in against Michigan. Yeah, it's gotta be don't you think? I mean this is a whole week too like this Michigan week is a thing every single day.

Michigan fans are not expecting to win this game. No. So Michigan fans aren't gonna take it as hard as fans are not expecting the witness game. No. So Michigan fans aren't gonna take it as hard as If Michigan beats Ohio State this year. Oh, man. No way. He might get fired on Monday. Yeah, still be in the playoff That's still being the Jim Knowles being the head coach DC yeah, yeah, if they're talking about dumb loose into Indiana and being out of the playoff they lose to Michigan They're definitely out of the playoff. They lose to Michigan, they're definitely out of the playoff. No, I think at this point it's all good because the chaos that just took place, I think, personally.

With all the other teams losing. Yeah, that's what I think. I think now it's like much more of a conversation everywhere else. Who would be in the Big Ten Championship? I think Ohio State, Oregon. Even if they lost. No, Indiana. No, Indiana.

They win. Indiana or Penn State. Penn State. Hold on, yeah. Hold on, Heather Brook. Indiana does not want that, right? Indiana does not want that. No, they do not.

So if Indiana wins and Ohio State and Penn State lose, Indiana's in. Correct. If Penn State loses and Ohio State and Indiana win, obviously Ohio State is in. If Ohio State loses and Penn State and Indiana win, I think common opponent Penn State's in over Indiana, I think, is the way it works. Marissa from GameDay broke it down in the meeting on Monday. But I think that is the case. If one of them wins and the other two lose, they're in.

But if two of them win, they go to obviously head to head for Ohio State Indiana and then Penn State, Indiana. I think it's common opponent score or something. Yeah. And I think Penn State is ahead of Indiana in that. So Penn State would go through. Yeah. There's a lot of shit still left wide open. Nuts. Oh yeah.

A lot of shit. Texas A&M Texas, winner of that gets the SEC championship losers out. Like all these games, like all these big games and especially games that we know like your whole season hinges on it is it's good it's good to watch it is good to watch Michigan being a spoiler the pool after man pulling off the Bryce Underwood signing mm-hmm I'd be like going into the offseason on like really hot yeah we're going yeah we are yeah 21-point dogs

think about this knock them out of the entire thing. Oh, no No, they'd still be in it. Don't worry about ryan. Everything's okay. Yeah They still be God damn. I hope they win for ryan day and his family. I know they got this also Gotta go win the whole thing too. I think they went by like connor when he was saying about indiana I think that's how I feel about Ohio State versus Michigan this week by 50 All right, okay, gotta play the game feel good about gotta play the game Davis warms sling it against Northwestern you guys know Northwestern I

Was watching the highlights to maybe get some false hope about Michigan and it was going well and then in the second quarter Davis Warren just rifles one right to Northwestern safety. It's like, ah, man, I think we still might be in trouble. Ohio State's so good too. Yeah. They're nasty. Watch it.

That loss to Oregon obviously is going to get chatted about with, you know, everything judging Ohio State, like Oregon, very good football team, very good football team, brand new facilities on the way to when they already have state of the art facilities. It's like in the modern world, they are going, just like Ohio State's going in this entire thing. Mac Brown's not gonna go, you got fired. No.

Yeah, fired. Damn shame. One last game. But he's coaching this week though? I think it's the last game. One last round. That would be awkward. Would you want to do that?

So if you're Mac Brown, after everything you've done, would you want one last game? I think so, right? If I was like new or coach No, I don't want to that's what I'm saying. No, why why fire? Yeah, I have that maybe conversation privately Report are they tried having these conversations privately a bunch of times been like hey, maybe you're tired to this year And he said no, I won't keep coaching so So then right before their bowl eligible, six straight bowl appearance,

second longest streak in school history, a trails a seven year stretch from 92 to 98, who Mack Brown also the coach of that particular time. So there's a lot of stats about Mack Brown's greatness and everything he's contributed to college ball. And we like say thank you coach. Thank you coach. Thank you coach. Now if he doesn't wanna retire, you know, like he allegedly potentially said from some of the reports

Ad Baba, you know said well if you're not retired, you're not coaching here and we're gonna make that announcement now I think in Hawaii, I think I don't know I don't know how it all came together, but Mac Brown probably was a little bit surprised as we all were but yeah I don't know if he's coaching bowl game though. I don't think, I don't know. I don't know. I made it seem like this next game is the last one. Yeah.

Way to go Mac. How we run. Coach won the best national championships. I have watched Texas. I helped you see that was crazy. So sweet. Yeah, great game. Loved it.

He came on our show and he was the one that gave us the line When he would win it was relief when you were lose it was devastating He said that's what it got to Texas because the expectations were so high and it was like, oh, that's a great way to like view Things that's there's a lot of jobs that are like that college football Definitely, but in a lot of things there's those types of jobs when you have a success It's just like thank God that happened and when you don't have a success it's like you're the worst person on earth he said he started feeling out of Texas he goes back to North Carolina place he started obviously had a lot of success with his

wife Sally Sherry Mrs. Brons no she has a name it's her first name he says it all the time Sally Sally all right Sally good pull miss Sally. Miss Sally, like very much wanted to go back into that community, Chapel Hill, because how much they loved it, and moved back in there, and coached and everything. So I don't know how it works out for Mac Brown going forward. I don't know if he's officially retired,

or if it's just gonna force him to retire, or if he's gonna go coach at West Virginia next year. Yeah, maybe. Or, what's that? They might win the national championship. Be sweet, right? North Carolina? Next year? You're talking about this year? Or what's that? They might win the national championship. Be sweet right? North Carolina? Next year? You're talking about this year? West Virginia? West Virginia? Not statistically out of it. Mathematically we still have a road. I'm willing to wager my right hand. Oh yeah. Okay that's binding. That is binding right there.

Okay. You're not getting any right hand back. This is a one-way bet that you're wagering. The odds aren't, but the big 12 is just still up for grabs right now. Yeah, West Virginia could potentially go in there, win that thing. And then when they get in the dance, nobody wants to see them. No. West Virginia, Georgia, could you imagine?

Who can really win it? Arizona State? Arizona State can definitely. Colorado's still in it? No. They need help. I guess mathematically not eliminated. OK. But the loss to Kansas does That gets mathematically not eliminated. Okay.

But the loss to Kansas does not help. Not in my okay. BYU two losses in a row. I don't think that knocks them out either. No, Arizona, Arizona state has to play Arizona. BYU, Arizona state, BYU, Iowa state. Iowa state's actually,

Oh yeah, Campbell. I think most likely it's actually Arizona state, Iowa state. Iowa state's got Kansas state though I think. so like it's still all there. Damn. Yeah it is the Big 12 is actually chaos. Wide open. It is it is that loss to Kansas though for Colorado. I don't love that. I like that Coach Prime utilized it as a coaching moment and he also said that this upcoming week is not the last time you're gonna see Travis and Shador in a Colorado uniform they will will play in the bowl game, he said.

Okay. So I like that Coach Prime is kind of like, two guys could potentially be top five picks, at least one of these guys is gonna be a top five pick. They're gonna be playing in a bowl game, no matter the go. Because that became a real thing for a long time. Oh yeah. And it's like, well, if they get hurt,

they're gonna be judges, like Prime's like. It still will. It will be this year too. What's that? If you're not in the playoff? We'll see plenty of guys skip the ball games Yeah, no, I get it. I understand the guys that do like I yeah, I don't know I get it But I get it. Oh, I get this wise. It's it's certainly a thing but like college you like grow with each No, I don't know what it's like now. I agree. Yeah, you know, I don't know what it's like now

but they got people in your ear from even a younger age now like what is it really like No, I don't know what it's like now. I agree. Yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know what it's like now. But you got people in your ear from even a younger age now, like what is it really like, hey, you're projected to be a first day pick. If you go to the poinsettia bowl and, you know, tear your Achilles, then you could go on draft. Like they got people scaring them to death, I think. Yeah, and but one last time with the boys,

I think is something that doesn't really matter as much because of the amount of transferring and everything, even though you would hope that the teams will build up a bond Enough that you would want to do that So there's arguments for the business side of it I could certainly see that but like Bryce Young, Will Anderson, I think they won what number one and number three Yep, yep in the draft. They played for Alabama in non against Kansas State playoff game and they won by

That's why I like when the Florida State thing happened last year and none of their guys played you know there were some people saying me as well like you guys lose by 50 something that's not a good way for the story to go out you know that's not a way for the story well they quote none of our guys played because they want it's like I understand that move but like just a year ago, Alabama could have done it they are their guys it's like It's an once again college ball. Yeah, it never ends They're never fucking ends, which is why we can't wait for tonight speaking of waiting Let's wait no longer for everything DB good D

bad D Let's go let's go This week's theme kind of is tips and overthrows. And obviously if you are a free safety you should thrive off of those. Xavier McKinney, defensive player to year candidate I believe. You got him on the watch list?

He is on the watch list, he should be. Tied up there leading the NFL with seven interceptions, that's another one. Always in the right position, always reading the quarterback. We always talk about tips and overthrows all the time as defenders, all the underneath defenders did their job. He's in position, gets one, tries to take it back in the house.

Just Xavier McKinney doing his thing all year long. What a guy, he was a giant. Yeah, yeah he was. Love the communication for you, that lets you know, hey, world coach, love the disguise. If you go back to the beginning, great disguise. Love the communication for you that that lets you know a world coach love the disguise If you go back to the beginning great disguise, he's down right right now Looks like nobody in the middle of field post snap rotates to the middle of field becomes a 3d You can see the window where uh Brandon Allen tries to throw it to a Debo's back shoulder off-target throw

We saw this earlier in the year what I believe a Minnesota Vikings interception on tip and overthrow Oh, very very similar situation when you're trying to fit into those windows as a quarterback, those own windows. Sometimes you want to receiver to sit in a certain one when you don't have reps with that receiver, you get throws in outcomes like this. This is also why accuracy is so important, not just for completions, but also if you're just off by what's that about foot? Yep.

So that's a tough catch I'm a son a lot for a guy running full speed and that ball is going up in the air as opposed to right here Which is difference between college in the NFL. Yeah, like that is the difference. That's a separator Yeah, that is the separator and Brock Purdy being unbelievable a quarterback. Yeah making the right decision Yeah, because obviously you can tell it does make a difference. Well What's worse the moxie at his night? What's going on? Are they still coming out with the? Yeah, it gets posted every week. It gets posted every week. It's the defense though. Their defense just doesn't feel the same.

Like that was like their offense was always good, but every time like when especially like when the Packers would go play them, it's like, oh, Jesus Christ, like their defense is just gonna be flying all over the field. It doesn't really feel like that's the case this year. What do they say? D-line vastly different than what we're... That's what Chep here said. Yeah, that's big end.

All right, let's go to the next Everything DB, good D. Once again, stand along with the theme. This is a bad, bad overthrow from Kyla Murray, who's having one of his best seasons. Fourth and one, you'll see Devon Witherspoon up top, come off the edge. If you run this back, we all know how athletic, how fast Kyla Murray is.

So you do kind of the boot here and watch With watch with this move most guys once they take this angle if you pause it here and you're in that position before he turns his hip almost speed turns right when he gets to the middle of the field and meets Kyla Murray to that sideline it's not too many DBs too many players that can flip their hips and do that the overthrow here Kobe Bryant you don't just catch the ball but you take that thing back to the crib. So huge, huge moment in this Seattle game to get them to win and take the lead in the

UFC West. I believe he got fine for the old celebration. What do you do? Coming off the edge here. Obviously you want to be in there to run game. Boom. He pulls it. He understands can't put that foot in the ground and just go back. So hey, I got to put it in the ground.

Speed turn, beat him to the spot. I mean, just pursuit, just an absolute dog forces a terrible, terrible overthrow from Kyler. And then you pick it off and take that thing back to the crew. Are the Seahawks all the way back? They're very much. Nobody's got to separate themselves in that. Very much. And we were worried about them, obviously whole new whole new culture whole new team Bill's mafia took that place over Gotta stop turning the ball over in the red area. You are Gino Smith You are the Seattle Seahawks. That is the biggest turn throwing in their side right now

Another interception was in this game from the Cardinals, but they didn't make it because they took the L But it was in the red area up 13-6. You had a field goal. I believe it on third down. You got to throw it away. He threw it in the trouble ended up in interception They'll figure it out Because I saw the next play how about the Miami Dolphins? Is bad day every week This is good The Patriots on offense Show some good Drake, but you got? The Patriots on offense? No. It's not a bad D. Every week we show some good Drake.

You gotta win, typically, to get up on here on Just do the play! The good D segment. Jay LaRamsey bringing pressure from the slot. You got a linebacker blitzing as well. Drake Mays in trouble. Made an overthrow. And you'll see Dobson make a phenomenal one-hand catch.

Just a couple back-to-back weeks now, we had the big fellas on here making some super athletic plays. Oh, not really over. So yeah. So coming off the block was engaged in the block, had his eyes back on the quarterback. Obviously, you see the pressure off the edge. Hey, this is one of those ones where Drake May in college

would have been able to get around Jalen. But now with Jalen Ramsey being Jalen Ramsey, it's like, I don't think so. Yeah. That is the difference. Back to back plays, you're bringing probably both of those secondaries best DBs off the edge. When you bring a DB off the edge, you expect them to be obviously the better athlete, even with these very athletic quarterbacks.

Kyle and Murray last play. Drake made here, he makes a throw over the top, under two rests, and that's a phenomenal play from a big man right here. One handed, falling back, that's a great, great play. Had to make the clip. Yeah, absolutely. That's team defense though. Back to back pressure, leading the quarterback

to a bad situation causing a off target throw, and then creating that turnover. Can we get this guy's dims, how big, how tall? Good question. Thanks to the Seahawks for letting him go in the middle of the season too. Dolphins just picked him up. Wasn't he, was he their leading tackler or?

He was one of them. Yeah, six foot, 238. That's 240 right there. It's an athlete. It's an athlete. High point, coming off the block, falling back one handed. AJ, how sweet is that?

That would be so cool. I'm sure you have one of these somewhere in your resume, but not everybody obviously does. What a play. Yeah, coming off the block is what's most impressive. And if he doesn't catch that, I mean that'd be a completion. That's a touchdown. All right, here we go. Bad D. Bad D. Now, we've seen a few of these across the league with- They win the game and they're all bad.

They did win the game, but this is a play, this is a teaching moment for everybody. You know, I think down bottom, running back to the very beginning, I'm all about swag. I'm all about swag down here at the nickel. You got the four by one situation. Get out there, man, have some sense of urgency. Get set and be ready to flip your hips.

The commanders do a good job here kind of flooding a zone. So you see they got four receivers down at the bottom of the screen, only one up top. So you got a bunch of guys running routes, you got a flat route, you got two guys clearing it out, and then you got Terry McClure lined up at three, he's wide receiver number three of the four, and he's going to want to run a will route. And nine times out of ten, the flat defender number two right here, he's responsible to carry that will route all the way up the sideline. We call that two, number two through your zone.

So the first one would be the receiver, and he's responsible for two, but you had guys deep because of the situation. So just terrible, terrible angles. This is all time bad D. One going to Hall of Fame like Stevenson, but I mean, it's damn near. It's a finalist.

It made it to two high vision. I think two's an issue here. And I also think the safety bad angle. I mean, the corner butler back there. Sorry, Butler. And then the safety take another bad angle. Scary Terry takes it all the way to the end zone. And then the fucking kicker missed the extra point.

They end up losing the game. It's Austin kicker. His name's Austin. Oh, yeah, Austin kicker. I'm sorry. But that is bad, bad D. You can't have that let down. You got lucky and won the game, but you can't have that. Ladies and gentlemen, everything D. that is bad bad D. You can't can't have that let down you got lucky one the game But you can't have that ladies gentlemen everything DB

Thank you D butch for that made us smarter made us better AJ you think D butch on this Thanksgiving weekend should do something for Maybe a giveaway Yeah, what do you I mean is he gonna putt again? I think do you almost make it last time? I don't know I don't know DB Did he almost make it last time? I don't know. I don't know db. Um, yeah shoot the putting was not great Yeah, maybe move it up a little bit further. It wasn't close enough. I don't also the clothes gumps The putting is because you have to hit so many It's not really it is kind of a shooting bad ball do the basketball not a football Okay, you want to shoot a basketball from the stage or what do you want him to shoot?

I mean, I think if from the stage is almost a gimme for D But you can't move closer guys shoot agree me I mean look at you see the clips of him at that the rec center just to score in 30 and recs and every night Guys down here at the rec We got that's what stage is that what you want? Ah, they're gonna hit a slap shot with the hockey sweater Ah, let's do it. They're gonna hit a slap shot with the hockey sweater. Yeah, with the sweater on. Pop right.

With the sweater on. Okay, so which hoop are you going to? This one over here? Yeah. All right. D-Butch, if you put that basketball into that hoop right over yonder, we will give 30 people $500 on this Thanksgiving Tuesday.

Come on. All you do is put the ball into the hoop. Stage shot, moon shot. How you feel? Pretty good. Yeah, he's Feels like you found out where it needs to go now I will say D butch is once at one time a champion in here in a basketball game One time that was certainly before right now time the slander no, no it's something he's never done. What's that? Lost to AQ and D-Bone.

All right, well that was an embarrassment. Ever. That was an embarrassment. Especially holding the belts. Yeah, but that's the thing about our particular team. We take on all challengers. There's no way AQ and D-Bone should have been given an opportunity to play for the championship.

I agree. And we said, you know what, for the good of the game, for the good of the Thunderdome, we'll let these, I'm not gonna say. It wasn't good for the game either and their team name is the Fatsos so you can say we let these Fatsos self-proclaimed Fatsos they named themselves their offense alignment both of them yeah that was game two by the way yeah we did win game one so we gave them two title opportunities okay

nonetheless it wasn't a good day for any of us. Okay Don't need to bring it up right now. We need good energy. Well, don't lie about my teammate. Well one time he was champion He's that's not an out time one multiple times multiple times at one time though. He was a champ Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry. I have multiple different times throughout the history. There it is. This man is a multi-champion Yes, he is. There it is. This man is a multi champion. Yes, he is. There you go. Multi contender as well which is happening currently right now. You know, he's currently contending. That's true. Every single day to become a champion here yet again because Fox and I are the champs currently and

even when we're not playing good ball, we're still winning and that's good news. That's all defense right there. Didn't put him up yesterday though. I was very. I was out here shooting yesterday. I was ready. I was ready. Where were you guys? I was ready. You were sleeping on job.

Sleeping on job. Yeah right. You were sleeping on job too. You guys were worried about Yukon yesterday, Dan Hurley. Me? Yeah, you guys were all worried about Dan Hurley. Me, I'm worried about McWhiteGuy trying to live up to the main event,

which by the way, he can't. No, McWhiteGuy's a dog. Yeah. event which by the way, he can't no McWhite guys a dog Yeah, so it's Dan Hurley. I didn't like okay. I know they were all wearing pink polos. Sure How many coaches they got down there like who men how many are you like any hard away brother? Those boys play I respect penny. I like what Memphis did. That's a big win over Yukon yesterday one of the pink polos though was doing this to Dan Hurley in the Connecticut team. Rob just... I think that's when Dan Hurley really was at it. That was the one that got out.

I think that was the one that pushed him over the edge. Yeah. He could do the do I know you thing from Urban Mark. Yeah. And then this guy's telling his team what to do and then there's an interaction, obviously almost a fight I think that happened. That was a great game. It was. That was a great game was that was Exhilarating that was fun to watch and then Dan Hurley coming out afterwards cutting promos If I called that shitty of a call, I would expect somebody to maybe Maybe come out a little bit Just straight up gonna get find so much money. Oh, yeah worth it. I gave them up in honor today

He said he then he also says one of the guys I've never seen I didn't even know he refed college basketball Oh yeah. Worth it. I gave them up in Harvard today. He said, he also says, one of the guys I've never seen, I didn't even know he ref'd college basketball. He did that, do I know you to one of the refs? He did. In that moment, guy not boxing out, you're gonna call that call? Bad call. Guy half ass box out, our guy goes up and gets it

at that time for the good of basketball. You're gonna call that call. Yeah, maybe I dropped to my knees because I lost my breath because that call was so shitty. This is an actual press conference. Dan Hurley, thank you, brother. Oh, yeah. You can tell his November game, too, because he wouldn't have got that tech

at the end if it was a game that mattered. Well, I think that's what Dan Hurley was trying to say. Are we serious? We flew all the way fucking out here for the Maui Invitational. Okay. You guys going to go, you throwing a football? Why? Because UConn's loss made you think.

I'm sorry to find a boss, yeah. I don't like our vibes right now. We didn't do nothing to win. Love you, Dan. Well, the UConn football team is certainly good vibes. Darius, you're going to throw that football to where? Final boss. Final boss's box. Alright. Hit his box. football team is certainly good vibes. Darius, you're gonna throw that football to where? Final boss.

Final boss's box. All right. Hit his box. If D-Butch is able to put the ball into the final boss's box, red one, great movie. There's other people saying other things. Who? Yeah. But they don't get it.

The haters. You're going in to watch a rock movie about Santa Claus. Good movie. I thought it was great. Thank you, Toad. That was very nice of you. There are some people that have said some bad things about that movie. Yeah, they don't know. People are kind of killing it. I just hope more people go see it. Well, go see it.

It's too late now. It's the Rock. It's never too late. I had a big, big budget. It's the Rock doing Santa Claus. I'm going to go watch. I think it was independent. Go watch. Go help. I went. I will. I think it was independent. Go watch, go help.

I went. I will. Paid for four tickets, only two of us won. See, we need more people to do that, otherwise they're not going to be giving the Rock to make more of these opportunities. No, what are you talking about? This is a passion project. Red one?

Come on. I know, I'm just saying. They're not going to be doing, hey Rock, this cost 250 million to make. It made 22 million opening weekend. I don't like that I think more people need to know about it. I agree. I agree. Although they have been marketing this like crazy People didn't see it in the front row and I'm actually key watch Oppenheim. That's a good point Didn't know that movie was out, you know

Thanksgiving weekend a big movie drop? It is. So them dropping that before. And I've heard people are like, hey, Gladiator 2, you know, fuck that. I want to go see Red One. Fuck that. Wicked.

Wicked. Yeah. Which is getting. Fuck that. Fuck that. Give me Red One. Doesn't he have another one? Gladiator 2 is coming out this weekend?

Yeah, I tell ya. Last weekend it came out. Oh my God. A lot of people are going this weekend.. Yeah wicked is it had like one of the biggest openings ever for also go check out red one Yeah, check out right? Yes, yeah, Moana 2 is coming out too. Yeah. Yeah, that'll dog November 27th Moana 2 is coming out My action is right around the corner. Yeah, but I'm sure we're good. We're good But go check out red one buy a couple extra tickets too if you're able. Yeah, maybe 15 to 16. Take your friend, take your family. After Moana 2 comes out, Rock probably will be the

biggest star in the box office. Again, again. Okay, so I don't need the, what you're saying over there. I agree. I'm just saying I don't know how many more, you know, temple action movies the Rocks can be the leading man. Well, wait until you see what this Moana 2 does. Oh I know that's gonna make a punch. Listen kid I can go on and on I can explain every natural phenomena. How about when he just drops that in the middle of the water. Incredible, incredible. Listen I love the rock. That's why more people need to go see this.

Love you Dwayne. Love you Dwayne. Love you DJ. Tomorrow is when Moana 2 comes out. Is he getting back in the ring? Moana 2 is out tomorrow? See there's something. Yeah.

Oh wow. Okay. The Rock's back. That'll be just fine. That's why they released it right after Red One. Couldn't have both same... If the Rock would have wrote it, maybe a little bit better probably if I had to guess. Which one?

Red One. Did he? No. I think. Yeah right. Wait. I'm sure he produced it., you produce. I love you the writer He's a legend. I saw you I saw fry What's it called?

Forget it. He does a giveaway with his production crew on Fridays. I think where they pull a raffle number and people Yes, I think it is fucking Friday. No that is I don't think it's fucking Friday. No, that is. It's Dana White. I don't think it's fucking Friday. He's giving away money. You're right. Oh, you could actually go today and get tickets at 350. To what? To Moana, too. Let's do that.

Let's do that. For the good of the Rock. Yeah. Let's go see that. I saw a lot of what you were saying out there about Rib One. Yeah, and I, listen, I'm just reporting what's out there. Journalistic standard. Exactly.

Exactly. What'd you got a school for? Well, you know, I may have been a film major. So, you know, I might know a thing or two about, you know, box office receipts and, you know, what stuff tracking to do, what stuff, how much stuff needs to make for considering the budget. And like I said, you know, every time you turn on ESPN, you're seeing a red one commercial and we just-

Yeah, but I saw that older lady who, she dropped herself a commercial on ESPN too. There's- Oh yeah, the Lifeline that older lady who? She dropped herself commercial on ESPN to there's oh yeah the lifeline yeah there it is yeah She fell and she couldn't get up mm-hmm. She died No, she got like the button she had the button. Oh life alert. Yeah life alert. Yeah, I see Dan Oh, I see Dan Oh a lot always pumping up the insurance people on that commercial. Oh, yeah him and Laura I believe her in an insurance commercial Asian wife. Jade is in a lot of commercials. Yeah Miller light Let's see Jason time paliton with the watts they have the whole family. Yeah. Yeah, they're Jason Kelsey's in a lot of them

Mm-hmm. He's in a lot of commercials He's in a lot of commercials Jason Kelsey's in a lot of them. Mm-hmm. He's in a lot of commercials He's in a lot of commercials Jason Kelsey's in a lot of commercials He's gotta be getting paid so much money for all those commercials. Oh, yeah. I think a big problem commercials is they're always the same one you need diversity of the commercials chain gills, but like Yeah, all of them are so good. Yeah, and I think he has a pretty good part of the newest one is hilarious him and who's this guy? His writing part the guy It's not the guy from tires was in that does podcast with yeah Matt with Husker, whatever Matt McCusker. Yeah. Yeah, okay

What's your smart by them? We'll take uh, we'll take from here nurse Bingo. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Yeah, why? With the bad man. Vince McMahon's forehead. Dong. Got it from here, nurse.

That was a good one. That was great. I didn't even watch that. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. All right, ladies and gentlemen, today's J Butler, aConn man. Yeah a nine-year NFL fit

one of the biggest brains in football. Mm-hmm. You know, the 33rd team got hired to Led by Tanenbaum and also Adam Gase in there. Sure. Were they on the Jets before? Yep. They've been there. They know the building Yeah, they both exited the building, but they do know the workings of the building Yeah, they both exited the building, but they do know the workings of the building They are being hired as a consultation firm by the Johnson's to find their next general manager coach If we were ever to get hired or paid millions of dollars from an NFL team to help them and consult them This man's brain would be a masterpiece of that. You're talking about football brain through and through You're talking about football brain through and through. You're talking about phenomenal athlete. Talking about great human, great dad.

Now, can you be a great man for 30 people? On this Thanksgiving week, they're gonna wake up on Thanksgiving morning. Now, the winners will not be paid by Thanksgiving. No. But they'll know it's coming. That's right. And they'll say, what am I thankful for this year?

I'm thankful that D. Bush, in a Florida Panther sweater, put a football into the final boss's box. Oh yeah. 30 people, $500. Short as shit. I mean, short as shit. It's on. Good line, good line.

AJ Hawk is over in Ohio on this glorious Thanksgiving week. What is your message to D. Butch as he attempts to win 30 people $500? Does D Butch have his ears in? Does he have any D Butch? We'll relay the message. That's alright, positive. Thumbs up D Butch, you're gonna kill it. Good job, relay that. He said thumbs up, good job, you're gonna kill it. Relay that. Pretty piss poor message. Yeah, certainly. I don't want to give you a long thing to translate you he didn't want to give you a long thing to translate you know he's actually

talking to me he wasn't talking to you anyways 30 people 500 still has not given you a good message at all win in spite of aj happy thanks getting And the 30 people who just won $500. All you gotta do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody, put what you're thankful for, and also put the easiest way to pay you digitally. We can't thank you enough. Great work, D. Butch.

Great work this week. We're thankful for you, buddy. Thank you, boys. Thank you, AJ. We're off Thursday and Friday. Great motivation from AJ. That big thumbs up really sealed the deal. All right we'll be back tomorrow. Before we get out of here though we missed a birthday yesterday. Snuck by. Yep. We should have known. Should

have. Had a little bit of a glow to him yesterday didn't he? Yeah. He's kind of floating and hovering around. Boy I'm bummed out about this. Aren't you? Whose birthday was yesterday, Connor? Whose birthday was yesterday? Yeah, who do you think? Well, of course, we all know November 25th is one of our favorite days. It certainly is. And, you know, a lot of people are in this office and I know all their birthdays. So that's why, that's exactly why I didn't say happy birthday to...

Is it Connor's? D- didn't say happy birthday to you. Deepa, if you could come out to the camera stage. Deepa. Deepa. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Deepa. Proud of you, buddy. Happy belated. Happy birthday, Bob. Now get back on the bulldozer outside.

Love you, Kipo. When you asked Connor, I thought it was his birthday yesterday. No, no, no. No, Connor had no idea whose birthday it was. Saw him get down by his face over there. Way to pull that one off. Come on. I know everyone's birthday, so.

Yeah, of course. That was the one we didn't know. Yeah, no. Newest to the building. I know everyone's birthday so yeah, of course that was the one we didn't know. Newest to the building got a text from Zito last night screenshotting I believe D-Bone's girlfriend's Instagram story or something like that or fuck Yeah, we missed it. That's exactly what he said. That's exactly what he said. We missed it. Want a cake for tomorrow? Yes, have to. So D-Bone we apologize apologize for missing it. Happy birthday to you, buddy.

Happy birthday, Bones. D-Bone's a weapon. Yeah. Football guy who just taught himself how to become a graphic designer. Every once in a while that football guy thing just shows up in the middle of his graphic designing job. And it's beautiful. And he does dress like a fucking asshole. Yeah. I mean, he...

It would be fine if he didn't if the tassel hat wasn't on all day soon as he runs hot though. Okay. 33 fits our best. Well what he wears during basketball I guess is certainly something. I mean I appreciate that he gets out. He's a pretty good jumper. Oh yeah. Pretty good jumper like good jumper I would say. Pretty good jumper, like good jumper, I would say. Always wants to play the pickup because he's 25 years old. Yeah, exactly.

They're all in there. Let's play one, let's play one. He's called out AQ, loses three and nothing AQ. Obviously AQ was not going to lose that game. There was no chance that game was either ending or with an AQ win. That is how that was going to go. But D-Bone has been a fantastic addition to the Thunderdome

I enjoy the shit out of it him dressing his cane full go so fantastic That was good. That was walking in seeing his ass just sitting there Yeah, typing on a computer and not realizing like hey you could get into this get up at you know 11 35 But he drove in at 7 a.m. Full makeup on Incredible incredible dudes awesome and his his graphics are yeah But he drove in at 7 a.m. full makeup on. Incredible. Incredible. Dude's awesome. And his graphics are real deal. Top notch. Takes a lot of pride in him. Works his ass off. Football guy. So we're lucky. Happy birthday. Happy you survived another year.

Can't wait for another trip around the Sun, Depot. Maybe this year we eat stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the right stuff Not mashed potatoes. That's not what i'm saying Okay, happy birthday debout Hey, we'll see you tomorrow. All right boys in the back. Great work. Great work today boys really good Graphics department way to go. Happy birthday. There you go guys mate. Great work with the cake that a baby meant Cand Mitt. Candles were lit. He did a good job. Covered it the whole time. Where the fuck is Devo? Golly. Yep had one of those. Golly. Mitt's awesome man. He is. He's the best. Alright be a friend tell a friend something nice might change your

life we're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One two three team. Goodbye.