The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1254 - CFP Rankings Recap With Dan Mullen, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s CFP rankings that saw Alabama has the last team in and Miami being the first team out, and all the different conversations and potential situations where different teams make it into the playoff, before AQ Shipley breaks down his best offensive line units and biggest takeaway’s from the week, and Darius Butler unveils his best defensive back plays of the week in Everything DB. Joining the show to chat more about the CFP rankings and who he thinks should have the biggest gripe and what he thinks is ultimately going to happen after championship weekend is former Head Coach of Mississippi State and Florida and current ESPN College Football analyst, Dan Mullen. Later, future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the show to give his biggest takeaway’s from week 13 of the NFL season, his approach to providing commentary for the Christmas game on Netflix, his Dick’s Sporting Goods Christmas commercials, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this wide Wednesday, December 4th, 2024. This program starts now. Football! It's wonderful and obviously the college football playoff rankings came out last night and there is a lot to chat about. We'll have coach Dan Mullen join us. Obviously now he's an ESPN college football pundit.

Cannot wait to talk to him in about 20 minutes or so about his thoughts on who's in Alabama, who's out Miami. But who else is potentially pissed? Ole Miss, South Carolina. And then what's going to happen to SMU? What if they lose to Clemson? They were ranked very low for a long, long part of this season even though they were winning games. Are gonna get bumped out what will this look

like next week after championship weekend we shall see now Ward Manuel the leader of the college football playoff committee spoke to Reece Davis last night and he chit-chatted about how any of these teams aren't playing we're gonna have no more data points so they're pretty much congrats Indiana congrats Indiana they are ranked 10th. They are in the college football playoffs, Signetti seemingly. Now granted, there could be a whole new discussion whenever push comes to shove. This is going to be the actual first ever 12 team playoff.

Maybe they'll be able to change something or they will change something. But as it sits right now in what Ward said last night to Reece Davis, it feels like if you're in Indiana, you're in a good spot. Notre Dame, great spot obviously. Tennessee, congratulations. Ohio State, you're in a good spot. Notre Dame, great spot, obviously. Tennessee, congratulations. Ohio State, not in the Big Ten Championship, just lost to Michigan in the rivalry. Michigan fires the offensive coordinator

after beating Ohio State. Ohio State, I think, very safe, very sound. Home game. In the college football playoff, hosting an SEC team at the horseshoe. And then congrats to, you know, Penn State getting in. Ladies and gentlemen, 12 year NFL vet, AQ Shipley is here.

Congrats here. Penn State, look at how a lot, I mean, the microphone's perfectly placed so we don't have to see it. Yeah, well, that's a Penn State education. We'll be able to figure it out. Congrats to Penn State in there. Now, if they beat Oregon,

I would assume that them in Oregon would, Oregon would get that five-hole. Five-hole is where you want to be. Yeah. And I think everybody kind of knows that. They're gonna have to change that for future years because shouldn't have teams eyeing the five-hole right out of the conference championship whenever they were trying to make the conference championships more relevant than they've ever been. Need the first couple rounds to be at least home field. Maybe all the way to semi-finals. We are, and I know they'll show me, well corporate won't agree with that because we got these buildings and sponsors. We'll pick them up and

move them. Yeah. I mean what are we even talking about? I understand that you know the sugar bowl and fiesta bowl are supposed to be in places and they always have been. It's like well you're still in a place and it's the semi-final. So it is a still a big deal even though you pick it up and move it But there's gonna be a lot of old heads in college ball I think they're gonna hate that first two rounds need to have home field advantage because that is gonna be a show and this would Be a perfect first round lineup if you were to ask us we got cold teams playing hot team Yeah, big hot teams playing cold teams teams from the desert taking on teams from the hills It is a beautiful setup and there's people pissed which is always gonna be for good conversation

That talks the tables here at boss Connor and that tie should make con man. Whenever you think about Miami Mm-hmm poor old Miami. It's damn shame It is isn't it truly not gonna they beat Syracuse or not? It's not this is a conversation Take care because Miami had been the highest ranked ACC team the entire season. Yeah, you know, that's cuz cam ward obviously best quarterback in the ACC So everybody thought that team was gonna go and do it and also felt like they had the football gods behind them in every game For sure every game there was some miraculous something happening There was some tech there was some review taking place in Charlotte that was coming back which way? Miami's way every single time. So it felt like Miami was going to be the team of

Destiny but they were always the highest ranked ACC team even though SMU had been leading the ACC whenever it came to you know record and everything like that. So then when Miami gets moved out all of a sudden and a three loss Alabama team gets put in, boy, those Miami fans, which we know. Oh yeah. Bummed out. They're live. They were very live.

South Carolina fans, they're mad. Yeah, should be. Ole Miss fans, Lane Kiffin's tweeting this morning at people, he's going at people. Incredible. The Miami Athletic Director gets out last night and puts out a full tweet, what are we talking about? He's not the only one that's active on there.

This is the Miami Athletic Director on X saying, what, what are we talking about? He's not the only one that's active on there This is the Miami athletic director on X saying what what are we talking about? What is this whole thing? Lane kiffin amen lane kiffin this morning's like shut up talking to oh, yeah A human who is talking about Alabama in instead of Ole Miss or South Carolina. I mean it is like right now We're in full campaign season, but last night almost was election night Yeah, it feels like we kind of know what it's gonna look like at this point which is why I think everybody's pissed off. Yeah without a doubt and it does feel like they got it right every game on there it feels like is a banger I think this is the college

football playoff maybe you move some teams around who knows what happens with the you know the championship games but SMU that's a win and you're in because I don't think SMU loses the ACC and they look at SMU and say hey they could sneak in over Bama Bama's going okay, Alabama roll tide. They are going to the college football. Well, that's cuz you're all your SEC. Yes Absolutely, which is funny just because you know aside from Miami it would be Ole Miss or South Carolina But Miami, you know if maybe cam ward was a little higher in that Heisman race, you can make an argument Hey, we need to see that guy in the college football ball. It's done. I'm sorry. The ACC sucks. We've been talking

about this all year. The ACC stinks. No one has any respect for him. I do. What do you say? Georgia Tech just took Georgia to eight over time. And it was awesome. But rivalry games as we've noted with Ohio state at eight, those are a little different when it comes to, you know, ranking the teams, especially when you're talking about the strength of schedule, which they brought up on the broadcasts like hey in previous years Yeah strength and schedules a thing strength the schedules a thing I think Reese or one of the guys said like this is the first year strength the schedule really does matter and that is Why Alabama is in and it would be a shame to not have Milro and the guys on that team?

Be in the college ball playoff Ryan Williams dudes who can make unbelievable plays now I do wonder where like Georgia and Penn State end up if they both lose just because do they play each other then do They go to the eight and nine and then Ohio State maybe moves up to a to a different spot Tennessee maybe slides into eight and gets a home game like that is where I wonder what happens But these do feel like the teams Aside from SMU unless they lose and everybody's mad about Alabama having three losses being in there. If Texas beats Georgia, Georgia's going to have three losses. They're going to be in two. Yeah.

So there's going to be people are going to be pissed next week one way or the other. Let's go to South Florida, man. Ladies and gentlemen, nine year NFL vet, host of everything. DB Good, DBad, D Darius J. Butler. Miami fans not happy. Not happy, not happy. But I mean, we said, coaches said all the times to players, you know, don't leave it in the ref's hands, you know, handle business.

Don't leave it up to a call or something. And for players of the team, you handle business. Obviously you beat Georgia Tech, you beat Syracuse, you're not sitting in situations. You've been sitting in that bi-week slot all year long. So you handle business, you go to the ACC Championship and you win it or lose it you're in so we didn't handle business down the stretch so and Ward Manuel kind of laid it out why Alabama went in over Miami with the top 25 wins and losses so here it is right here. Bingo. Joining us now is the chair of the college football playoff selection committee Ward Manuel so Ward let's start with the last team in the cluster of SEC teams in Miami. What gave Alabama the edge over the rest of that group? Reese is good to be with you again what it came down to is as we evaluated

Both teams and looked at how they ranked obviously we think highly of both teams ones at 11 ones at 12 But what it really came down to is Alabama is 3-1 against current top 25 teams and Miami is 0-1. Alabama is 6-1 against teams above 500 and Miami is 4-2. Both have had some losses that weren't what they wanted out of those games. But in the last three games, Miami has lost two twice. And so for us, in evaluating their body of work, we felt that Alabama got the edge over Miami. Well, the body of work is complete for Alabama,

for Miami, for Ole Miss, for South Carolina. What more rankings to do? What could change? Could it change? Is it set? Good question. Great question. Yes, it could change. It all depends on the outcome of these games. The commissioners have asked us to rank the top 25

through the conference championships, and that's what we intend to do. We have high regard, as I've said before for those who are playing in those conference championships and we will closely evaluate those games and the outcome of those games to rank the top 25. So then Reese is about to interrupt him to ask him a follow-up about everything being said if you're not playing in the championship which we will certainly run in a matter of moments but a lot of those stats there early, you know, he goes six and one against above 500 teams. What was four and

two or something? Three and one against top 25. They were oh and one or something like that. Yeah. Then Miami was oh and one. And then one and two, whatever. He was giving out like real numbers about, hey, these were presented and this is why this happened, which is why it's good to play a hard schedule. Right? So like there is some being taken into account about how you play against top 25 teams.

Obviously that's why Alabama is getting a spot over Miami. Once again, not Miami's fault for this being their schedule and who they got to play, and how the teams ended up being, what the top rankings were inevitably at the end versus what they were at the time. Like that's kind of SMU's big conversation is their losses to BYU at the time, BYU was top 14 team.

Now BYU not even in Big 12 championship anymore, not even a thought. So like their loss now looks worse as the season goes on, but some of your big wins for a lot of these teams look worse as the season goes on. And then nobody thinks about what about a team getting hot late, like Kansas for instance Kansas in the Big 12 has come in over the last like three four weeks and been the team that we all thought they were going to be

All season so it is a win over them being projected the proper way That it should be from the beginning of the season whenever you think about big 12 teams When you think about ACC teams and who's supposed to be good. There's so much that is kind of uh, You know contradicts each other in the conversation much that is kind of you know contradicts each other in a conversation and one of them is if you're in the tournament right now and you're not in the conference championship can anything change and that's where this clip goes through. Among that cluster of teams though and I'm not talking about all of them or not talking about UNLV or Clemson knocking someone out among that cluster of teams what could happen and why could anything happen to change the

order? Well, it just depends on those who are playing in their conference championships. But none of those teams are playing in the conference championships. You see what I'm saying? None of those teams we're talking about are playing. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes. So, those who are not playing, we will not adjust those teams because they don't

have another data point obviously. But in terms of those who are playing, how they'll move, if they'll move at all, if you remember two years ago, TCU lost in their conference championship game and didn't move. They stayed at three. So we could do that or we could adjust depending on the outcomes of the game. So if you're not in the conference championship and you're in a playoff you did it safe congrats That's what I just heard right. Yep. You made there isn't any more data points How could we change from one week to the next?

I guess when push comes to shove you could have a different conversation about the games and if you want a different matchup is what They could do in that room. Let's go to hammer done time everything. We just chatted about a P tone What is your big takeaway and what are we not talking about enough? Yeah, I think it was huge what he said there at the end about TCU losing their conference championship and not moving down and staying. I do think if SMU loses and it's not a 40 point loss to Clemson, I do think SMU still will be in because I don't think they want to set the precedent of punishing teams that made their conference championship and then are out of the um are out of the playoff like so then what does that mean well then that would mean Clemson would be in and I think Bama's out in

that situation um wow yeah because I mean listen like Ole Miss and South Carolina they can complain but you know Ole Miss lost to Florida and Kentucky, those losses are worse than what Bama has, and South Carolina lost to Bama and Ole Miss, so I don't know what they're arguing about. Miami, I mean, but like SMU's losses will be to a ranked BYU team and obviously a ranked Clemson team in a conference championship game. I don't see them punishing SMU for,

they've never, I don't think, wanted to punish a team for making it to the conference Championship because obviously right now there's a lot of people talking about like well SMU should just shouldn't play because if they lose They could potentially be out of the of the bracket out of the tournament And then yeah, I think it was like the data point thing like obviously Tennessee can't jump Ohio State because those two teams are done They don't play anymore Alabama can't jump Notre Dame or Indiana or whatever done. They don't play anymore. Alabama can't jump Notre Dame or Indiana or whatever because those teams don't play anymore. I think that was big but I do think if SMU, if it's close, I don't know how many, I don't know how much they can afford to lose by but

I do think SMU is in no matter what. And I guess Ward Manuel could say like we're not adjusting anything. SMU was ranked above Alabama. Clemson earned the first round by with the ACC championship. So now who gets bumped out? SMU is still ranked there because I don't love the interviews that this ward guy does with Reese every single week and I appreciate Reese like saying like hey we need something because I mean billions of dollars spent on this right? Well spent. And that's because like an amount of love and passion and conversation about the sport, which is gonna happen. You guys are dictating what the end of the season looks like, you 13 people, and you are speaking for them.

So we need answers, okay? And Ward's job, I guess, is to not put his foot in his mouth down the road or set any precedent in any of these things. So I appreciate him coming out and saying like, hey, Indiana, you should feel okay. You and saying like hey Indiana you should feel okay, you know Ohio State you should feel okay, Tennessee you should feel okay. I appreciate him saying that giving us some answer in this entire thing I don't love that every time Reese asked him the first question. He goes Reese. It's nice to be joining you It's kind of like a dunk on Reese. Yeah, it's like

Reese would like to say hey, thank you for joining us every single time. You know, like the whole song. The competition. Yeah, I get it. I appreciate what he's doing there. But if SMU stays after, if Clemson beats him and Alabama gets dropped off, people are going to hold over his head.

Well, if we didn't play, why do we get knocked out? It's like, well, SMU is ranked above you to begin with. So I hope Ward Manuel doesn't get scared to answer questions going forward. If somebody holds what he said right there over his head. But then that's back to leaving it in the committee's hands. You know you did what you went nine and three throughout your season so now you're kind of at their mercy you know and as far as the strength of schedule, the end of the season I think

the strength of schedule should matter much more than obviously at the beginning of the season. Guys coming in with preseason rankings you you know, top 10, top 15, top whatever. You get halfway through the season and you start to really figure out who these teams are. We saw it with South Carolina coming on. We saw it even with Florida kind of coming on late with lag win and how they play for the boys down the stretch. So that's when you got a real gauge of who these teams, who these programs are. Yeah. And good luck in there. I'm happy I'm all a member of that community. Amen. I'm happy I'm not a member of that committee. Amen.

I'm happy I'm not, but I appreciate the passion. I think we're gonna get phenomenal games. Speaking of phenomenal, Hard Knocks AFC North. Wow. Last night, Hard Knocks got, they got their fastball back. Yeah, delivered. They really did. So I think the, we talked about it yesterday a lot that

Hard Knocks both in season and training camp kind of just started mixing in with all the other Content that was coming out of teams and social media accounts and we're getting a glimpse behind Scenes more than we ever have in the past with social media and teams are even letting their social teams into like the war room and into stuff so like when Hard Knocks and NFL films were the only people that had access to it it was something everybody couldn't wait to watch oh my god what would it be like to be in the NFL what is this building like what is this coach like what is a meeting like you were that was kind of like an introduction to people that didn't make the NFL on what the NFL is so it was held in high regard this is awesome this is incredible then it all just kind of started blending in with social media content, like everything. Guys

started having their own podcasts. He started learning more personalities, more stories through the players. So Hard Knocks didn't get a chance to even tell their story. It was just, I think we all agree. Hard Knocks was a dying franchise in my eyes. I think it was going to lose relevance. I think it was going to continue to lose popularity. Now granted, they're always going to get deals like with HBO and with Mocs because of the relationship and the partnership and the NFL does well for people. But I thought content wise, they were losing their fastball. I thought it wasn't going to be able to find its way.

Then the off season hard knocks with the Giants happened. No social media teams pointing that out. No chance. Ever. And it's like hard knocks did. And it's like, thank you. We appreciate you getting something that nobody else could get this year with this hard knocks with the AFC North They're giving us shit that nobody else can get more specifically They got both teams preparing for each other and it ended up being a three and a half minute segment on this hard knocks episode

Last night and I assume is gonna win some awards, but you're talking about two NFL teams, two coaches, two buildings, two philosophies, two different trajectories happening against each other. And as somebody that was very lucky to be a audience member in an NFL team as the punter, I think it beautifully depicted like the vibes every single week you can have. Here's three minutes of Scorsese shit from NFL Films Hard Knocks AFC North last night. Anybody have an idea what the weather's going to be Sunday at one o'clock? Pull okay 25 or below okay you can't play you can't play in this division in December without it being cold weather it's not right can't be above 30 degrees so buckle up get your mind right. I mean we've been in some close games and unfortunately we haven't closed them out. There's still a lot of opportunity to get

this season turned around, starting with the Pittsburgh Steelers. The history of this series, man, the shit runs deep in the North. These intimate divisional relationships, we know us, they know them, that's how it goes down. They play us a certain way. There's a rhythm to it. We've had success because we're one of the teams that refuses to play their game. We're just getting a two back under center and handing the ball off and trying to play action. We're going to attack these guys in the air. Man, I stood in front of this room and I talked about a LeBar Jackson playing.

I think it's important that we map out what our Joe Burrow playing is. He is red hot. That felt good. That was the one. We're Joe Burrow at quarterback. You know, we can't be four independent contractors. We gotta work together. Right side is dead. We're talking about the integrity of the pocket. We gotta not let him step up and we can't let him get outside to his right arm

level. We certainly have to do a great job of keeping Russell in the pocket. Come on one four. Come on show boy. You know what to do. Three days you can say. When he extends plays that's when he's at his best. Good bro. The momentum of the team really gets driven by 14 because if he creates big plays, it kind of sparks their offense. There's everything because they're so afraid of the go balls and all that stuff. When you run off the ball like that, you create all that space for you. Yeah, I know who he's looking for first. His first read is always going to be 14.

101, he's going to take the shot. Try to keep space between you and 14. He's a great contestant catch guy. Third and one. Mike Thomas don't care. He don't want the first. He want to flip the field. He wants the momentum.

Chase K, have a good day, man. Man, this guy is different, man. He's the best in the business right now. And so it's definitely important that we minimize this damn guy. Minka Fitzpatrick, aware player, veteran player. Okay, you guys know him. Right, receivers. Expected that guy's coming for you. Try and take your head off.

They're not a big fake team. But anybody who gets desperate, you know, will do crazy shit, so. Yeah, no doubt. How about this guy? Brown, the new feature runner. We will not be distracted by Joe Burrow and company to the point where this guy's sneaking up on us. Man, we gotta establish a relationship with this guy.

He might not know your name today, he better know your name on Monday morning. I know one thing for sure, right? They've got a coach who's been doing it a long time but standing in front of his room right now preaching that they're gonna come into our stadium and be the more physical team. It can't happen. There's some dudes in Cincinnati sitting in their room to combat the towers of some of you kids.

There's a reason why Landon Brown is in Cincinnati. Because in 2022, man, Alex Housenfeld walked an absolute dog on this dude. Perfect. We got to land on Brown this week. And so let's work. That's how business gets done in divisional play, man. It ain't personal, man. It's about us engineering victory. This game means something to everybody. It's an awesome opportunity to get back on track with the home divisional win versus the Pittsburgh Steelers to go out and finish out and have a great December. That's all I got, get a break.

Now that would not happen, obviously. The Steelers would get a big time win in a very cold game, but Herbig against Orlando Brown would end up being a massive play. There'd be a strip from Herbig, and on the sideline, you see Tomlin hugging his player early. George Pickens slips, falls, gets a pass interference against him that isn't called.

Taylor Britt has a pick six. Literally Mike Tomlin arm around. George Pickens go, hey, one play. Ain't gonna stop this thing. I think if you're watching this, that is a great indicator on what a week of preparation looks like in the NFL. Incredible, and it's not a lot of things at this point

been so far removed from the game that make you really, really miss it as a player. But that like watching that, watching that three and a half minutes, I was like, damn, like you missed. That's what you really missed. Been like the leaders, the coaches, the different position groups,

laying out exactly what the plan is. Nine times out of 10, the shit goes that way. And then once you get in the game, you gotta ride those ebbs and flows, and like, you know, Mike Tomlin talking about establishing a relationship with the featured runner, like that was awesome, you see him getting off in the game, then him having that conversation with Hayward

kind of going into halftime, the conversation with George Pickens, you hear it all the time with a bunch of former players or players that have played for Tomlin, or players just been in the NFL, like hey, I would love to play for that guy. I think they show great reasons reasons why even George Pickens, like he was one of those receivers that like,

I know when I played Brandon Marshall was a guy where like early in the game, we got to take him out because the 15 gets going early, the whole team is up, he's up, but if you keep him out first quarter, make a big play kind of, you know, quarterback not going to him, you'll see him on the sideline, you'll point him out, hey, he's over there cussing the OCR,

the quarterbacks coach out, the quarterback out. So just all those different little things, I think films did an incredible job just showing it. And then obviously seeing, you know, the war plans, obviously you're not soldiers and football players, but the plans and then it actually taking place on Sunday, like it was absolutely incredible. Yeah, I legitimately, that's something

that nobody else can get, because social media teams aren't gonna put out both sides of the game. So them playing each other and caring is like a sneak peek into it. Obviously Zach Taylor doing his thing over there in Cincinnati and Harbaugh had a couple gems. There's just gems being dropped all over the place of that show. And then shout out to Kevin Stefanski having to motivate his team with where they are. Jameis is on a microphone but everybody saying that Mike Tolman was the winner last night.

And as somebody that never played for the Steelers from Pittsburgh, and it was had Mike Tomlin say to me numerous times, hey, I'm gonna bring you back to Pittsburgh when you're old and cheap. Is what he's told me. You know, just those types of moments. So having some sort of like connection to Tomlin,

but never really understanding him as a coach. Last night, I got a good glimpse at it. You played for the Steelers, you're from Pittsburgh. What was your takeaway from that? And then also Tomlin as a coach as a coach. Last night I got a good glimpse at it. You played for the Steelers, you're from Pittsburgh. What was your takeaway from that? And then also Tomlin as a coach as a whole. Yeah, that whole thing got me fired up. When I watched that, it like brings you back, right? Like it gets you back in the mode.

It's everything that you want to see that takes you back to those division games. And Bruce Arians used to always say it. He would always say, hey, listen, like everybody's got to make plays, right? But when we'd get in those division games, he's like, listen, I know the five stars are going to show up. Do you know you're a five star?

You're paycheck. Just take a peek at it. I need you one, two, and three stars to show up because you're going to be the difference in the game, right? When we would play Seattle out in Arizona or if we were playing San Fran, it was a big division game. It was like, listen, I know Carson Palmer and Larry Fitzgerald are going to show up.

I need AQ Shipley to beat the shit out of Jaren Reed this game for us to get three, three, three and get our first downs, right? And so that was pretty cool to watch. Yeah, watching the motivational technique and the way Tomlin talks, he also busted open some Fritos in the middle of a film session. They call him a film junkie.

Let's go to Hammer. Dun, dun. Tomlin, just from following along with your ex account, you were sploochin and all over yourself last night Watching that hard knocks as a die-hard stealer fan. Yeah, I was smitten Yeah, a lot of Steelers fans thought we would never have this opportunity And we did and I was it was awesome a lot of people were like well too much Steelers Well that was because it was a vision game against the Bengals and they just happened to win that game and Mike Tomlin is awesome

And that showed how much he cares you talked about him with her big and him with GP But like something like just a small stuff like when Keanu Benton got up In front of the team the night before the game and said he had a bad week in a bad week physically in a bad week Mentally like that's a second-year player and that's nothing that's something I never ever ever would imagine him getting up in front of the team He's forced to yeah, he was forced to yeah And he was representing the D line too I don't if you saw immediately after his speech he goes back to where the D line was and cams like that's right I thought shit to the linebackers because I assume there's been a corner that's walked up there

Stumbled all over himself and then just boo It's his ass booed out of there. But there is those little things that I think like fans don't know happen. Yeah, even like the Thanksgiving part, when he's like, hey, and a lot of coaches do it, but like, hey, home's open, because a lot of people wait for the families, you can come, you're welcome.

Some of the OGs obviously do that on the team. You saw the Hayworths kind of enjoying their Thanksgiving because I think Zach Taylor was like, oh shit, you reminded me, like it's Thanksgiving because it's just so important. As football players, that's just kind of your life. Thanksgiving, Christmas, like you reminded me like it's Thanksgiving because it's just so important as football players That's just kind of your life Thanksgiving Christmas like you're in the middle of it. So big division arrival Bangles are playing for their season stillers obviously have bigger goals And mine as well Ravens like even the Browns, you know seeing like Miles Garrett and they're there

They're online coach or since was that oh We'll be running that and their O-line coach or assistant. Assistant O-line coach. We'll be running that in a third hour. Yeah, that would be awesome. Third hour, great decision. Yeah, because it would just be a muted TV on ESPN for two minutes. Two minutes.

Two minutes. That's football, baby. That's why we love it. That's what it actually is like inside of a building. And I think, you know, the people are saying there's a lot of Steelers. The Steelers were the only ones that won. Yeah.

So like, Bangles lost, obviously, to the Steel the Steelers Ravens lose and then the Browns lose on Monday night football but them having a Monday night football shot in it like reiterates the fact NFL Films is editing that all the way Up until like yesterday's drop right crazy like it is bananas how much effort and I think they are Worthy of the flowers after last night's episode if that is what this whole season is gonna be like Hold the phone hard knocks all the way back Yeah

you have to give them a massive amount of credit because like you mentioned it and Everyone gets excited when like the preseason hard knocks, but then you watch that first episode and it's like, okay I've seen I've seen this a hundred times already I don't need to see this anymore. Like they realized like, hey, we kind of do need to adapt and like, cause we had been jumping the shark. Because if you remember when the Colts were on the in season one, Keith Cosgrove who, or Cosgrove who works for NFL films came on and told us like, Hey, the plan was we're going to ride with them as far as they go. And they ended up losing to the Jags and got eliminated early. But the clock time, yeah, I remember, yeah. But the idea and them having two potential

playoff teams here is, and I don't know if they've said this yet, but there is a chance we get to watch the Steelers and the Ravens through the playoffs and on their way to the Super Bowl. And then you also have the other stuff, we know how hard it is to win divisional games, so just that type of stuff, you mentioned it, you're not seeing, we get the same social media stuff every single week. Like,

and the look in the locker room after post game, like that's always sweet, but then it's the same thing. It's, it's kind of like, if we were to run the assistant online coach video, like they, for whatever reason, they're mutant, all the, like we're getting the unadulterated, unfiltered shit that real life is what the NFL is like, you know make no bones about it that's what it is so it's like you see something like that and it's like okay like this is awesome this this should be kind of the gold standard of what hard knocks is I think they should do a division every single year because then you don't have the oh we're doing the Cardinals and they're four and

ten right now and like you you watch it and you just don't care like you're you're whether you're a Steelers fan or Ravens fan or whoever like you're invested in watching these things and also Once again to the NFL films doing four teams. Yeah, so now you got four crews, right in the middle of a season So much harder. That's how much they got so much harder chopping even more. So much good shit They got a guy like exactly kind of some of the bullshit too Like the players do you know Burrow and Chase talking about him getting the Batman suit in a batmobile 2.9 million But it's cool

And then the Ravens players just talking about like the sake one shit like here Lamar Jackson Speak in awe of another player's practice with the boys exactly like that's just shit that happens throughout the week that um You know, you know, you're not gonna see anywhere else but hard. He's having think I seen that in a street ball He was just talking it is cool. Like, and if you're George Pickens, I think you love hearing that this is how the other team's talking about you. You know, like that's why whenever Bill Belichick

would do his press conferences, he would mention somebody's name. The player would take that as like a badge of honor, cause it's like, okay, so I got Bill thinking about me, you know? And I think some of the superstars, obviously quarterbacks know that the other team is talking about him, obviously. You're the quarterback. But the way George Pickens was talked about there 14 is the guy

Yeah, and then Hilton going Russ is looking for GP no matter what third and one he don't care Yeah, he is trying to do that and then you hear Tomlin basically, you know backing everything it is Question if you're a free agent you're watching that and it's like Pittsburgh be a cool place Good, cool guy to play for. And then the Baltimore Ravens, it feels like it's like, I don't wanna say like an institution, but it does feel like, hey, this is the Raven way. You walk in, it feels like that has been the way,

obviously Hardbott's been there a long time. We're getting a chance to listen to Coach Hardbott do the way he does his things, but it feels like you're walking into like a college. It's like it's kind of what it felt. You played there. Yeah, I played for both those teams. That's why it was kind of cool to see because not a lot has changed. I mean, it's exactly the way it is. Harbaugh runs like you said, like it's an institution, like it's a classroom. He puts on a full tilt presentation. I mean, I've never, I've never been to a place more in my life. Like Harbaugh, I'll say a quote

in like a meeting. He'll be like, Oh yeah, that was good. Let's put that on a t-shirt. That t-shirt shows up in your locker. You know what I mean? It's like, there's some old school stuff going on. And it's like, you see the way that they operate, but then you see the way Taulman operates and the way Taulman operates, it's like- He's got, he's got sweats on.

He's got sweats on, he's got a sweatshirt on. He's just walking around position room to position room saying, what are we thinking here? And then yesterday on the, position around the position room saying, what are we thinking here? And then yesterday on the, not that footage that we saw, but it was a earlier conversation with the defensive staff. And he's like, Joe's always like, he's holding a shirt. He like slithers through the pocket.

We need to stop him from slithering through the pocket. And then literally they show a play. Joe slithers through and then throws a touchdown and then he goes and talks to Cam Hayward to your point as they're walking off the field and cams like man, they're running he's like Yeah, we need to stop the run and we need to push the middle of the pocket pretty much and he said get your guys Right. He said to cam and cams like you got it and also for cam Hayward it was cool to watch him be the leader and the guy that he is Yeah, you know his little brothers on the team know, his little brother's on the team.

Him and his little brother have a 10-year age gap. I didn't know that. And his dad passed away whenever he was 17, so he was just going to college. Younger brother was obviously seven when that happened, so he went through all of high school without his dad. It was Ironhead Hayward, a professional football player. His family still lives in Pittsburgh, I believe,

because he was a member of the Steelers. So watching Cam Hayward, who's had a Hall of Fame, been around a long, long time, and watching him not be like, you know, it feels like everybody liked him, the way him and Tomlin talked, his brother, how he looks up to him. I like this person. I think he had a big performance last night too. Good for Cam Hayward last night. His massive fucking head. Huge. That guy's head.

Like my family. Resident family, for sure. That head. Holy shit. He had a hat. He had he had a hat on in that thing that was a rear naked choke on his forehead I mean, I don't know if they make enough cloth for how big that fucking head is but it was a It was a phenomenal hard. I mean, I can't wait for next week tone. What were you gonna say? You had a question I was gonna ask cuz obviously you guys are in the meeting rooms It felt like Mike Hilton was running that DB meeting room Does that happen a lot or is that just like the vet in the room speaks on on certain things?

Yeah, especially a guy that's been in that division. He was a Pittsburgh. Yeah. Yeah, so he's been in that division He knows how the games gonna go and even on the sideline He told Cam Taylor Britt after the pick a after the pick they're coming right they, they're coming right, they're coming right back to him They're coming right back at him like when you've been in those in those battles You're so familiar with those teams and those coaches you obviously know what's going on But I always talk about the importance of having like good vets in the meeting rooms Especially when you're drafting young players regardless of what those positions

That's where you spend most of time and a lot of times those old heads I'm sure Hayworth's the same way in his his meeting room Mike Hilton, Miles Garrett like those guys kind of set the tone and the temperature in those meeting rooms of how you're gonna prepare for practices and games. Tom Tomlin literally said hey get your guys to the to Kim Hayward because that is how an NFL building is operating and I know coaches are very important and there's some trash coaches around the NFL at position groups and everything like that you're not gonna be able to hit home runs everywhere but if you have a good room you're gonna have a good team if you have all good rooms

you're gonna have a great team I think that is legitimately the case offensive line players coaching in there too whenever coaches not in there yeah that was one of my favorite clips I mean I'm glad you guys brought that up because it's like you know it could be a Thursday after practice it's like hey boys let's meet in the room let's go over the negative plays let's go over the sacks let's go over whatever or plays. Let's go over the sacks. Let's go over whatever, or hey, listen, they run this crazy front or all the exotics.

Let's go over all the exotics. So we're all on the same page because five guys on the same page are huge when it comes to Sunday. And so those things are big. They can give you the game plan, but you're the one out there on the field. I love when coaches say that because it's like,

hey, I can give you all this, but if this doesn't make sense, you're the ones out there on the field. You got to make it make sense for y'all. Yeah, because the messaging coming from player, it's gonna be a little different from a coach potentially. Unless it's Tomlin. Tomlin's got a great, what is that?

Diction, I guess? Yeah. Has great diction. Set the pulse, right? The amount of words and the words that he uses. But the way he talks is, you can see why everybody, everybody loves him. Out of time.

Isms. Yeah, and he's also talking talking shit. Yeah. There he is. Yeah. Him just popping open that Fritos bag was one of the coolest things. Legs right up on the desk. What are we thinking here? We're eating Fritos. He's listening, taking advice. This is my thoughts. It's not my thoughts. It was. He said uh he said it could be a problem in the red zone or open grass too. Open grass was back on there. Yeah, I said open field or big part of the field, open grass, yeah, a lot of the words. My wife actually said, what does that mean? The rest of the field.

Open grass, like Gray would describe it. Fair enough. Yeah, it catches your attention as soon as he says it. Gonna hold on to it. That's why Baltimore I thought was sweet because to your guys point about it being like an institution, like Harbaugh I feel like wasn't similar to the other guys as far as motivating the team

and doing things that everyone else was doing and It's a the Thanksgiving. He said to one of his senior assistants like man This is gonna be our 17th year of Thanksgiving together It's like he really has been there forever and they went all the way back when he was an assistant with Philly They went through that and him getting hired like that was so cool But I wasn't sure if you guys did pick up on it. It didn't really hit it all hard Bob being cold outside Yeah, yeah, yeah steams coordinator said I I would give you my jacket I want to let you know I'll give my shirt off value my hat whatever you need. Of course you I'm good

I'm layered. I'm fine. I'm all layered up right now. Yeah, yeah the building over there Unbelievable. It looks beautiful. It's a castle. It is an absolute castle. It looks like a country club. Yeah, they got a little putting green out front. I mean, Under Armour's name's on it, so they put all the money into it. It's crazy. And that's just been the facility? That's just what it is?

That is so cool. So cool. By far the coolest aerial shot of any of the facilities. And no offense to the Steelers, I think they're splitting that team meeting room into two meeting rooms. Yeah. Right? Whenever... Looks like it. When that's on a team meeting. So that's a

that that's a whole different team meeting room when I was there. It's even bigger and better looking. So I don't know. I don't know. It looks awesome. Because the Steelers facility is split with the Pitt Panthers. Yeah. Now granted it's a big facility and there are two clear facilities but it is still split facility with the University of Pittsburgh. So I do wonder if we're gonna get more glimpses into all of it. To Connor's point though, I don't know if you guys saw it, I don't think it was a part of this, it was a mic'd up maybe a couple weeks ago, but there was one the Steelers played the Ravens,

Tomlin and Harbaugh were like, man we've been doing a lot of these, you know, I remember when we first talked we were talking about what our kids were wearing for Halloween and now they're going to college and like that's pretty cool. They've been going against each other for almost 20 years now. Yeah and that's AFC North football. The 17 years was the senior athletic trainer, I believe. Yes. I believe it was, I think. If I do remember reading the thing right. Alright, let's get back to college ball here. We've made a man wait way too long, and we do apologize.

This guy's electrifying. The man. This man was a head coach for a long time in the ESGC at Mississippi State then in Florida. Then he goes on TV and becomes a college football pundit for ESPN and I'll tell you what, home run after home run, especially last week. Can't wait to hear his thoughts. Ladies and gentlemen, coach Dan Mullin. Coach. Alright y'all have me sold on Hard Knocks. I didn't watch it last night but now I'm sold on watching. Hey listen, coach, I don't know what your team meetings were like

I don't know what your messaging was like I don't know what your building was like but for hard knocks for us to get a chance to go inside of like Tomlin's building and like just catch the vibe that It is and then John Harbaugh obviously for how long he's been in Baltimore and kind of see it I love it. I love that type of shit. I really do enjoy I wish I could have got a glimpse into your building coach We did a one time. We did like a hard knocks. They did like a pre like for one of the games, but they in the SEC it was HBO did it and

that whole setup a couple of years ago, they picked four college teams. We jumped on and did it for a game. It was a lot of fun, but I'm telling you, if you guys haven't done it, when you're doing that, like I'm like, Hey, I gotta go like, you know, I mean, they're following you like they're at the house in the morning, getting in the car with you. And there's one time I'm like, Hey, like, all right, where are you going, coach? Where I'm like, I'm going to the bathroom. It's can I just get like 30 seconds to the bathroom? Can I turn the mic off for a second? I mean, they get everything that you're doing on film. And you know, that

Mike game day hot mic, like when you're on the coaches headsets yeah the stuff that gets said on there my goodness I don't know that you want everybody here and all that yeah that's why NFL films that's why NFL films I think is involved in everything with the NFL stuff yeah that the vote of shit that they have of horrendous things being said about them people say J. Edgar Hoover didn't have that much Films vault I assume has so much stuff. It's why a lot of people don't get my stuff It's like I'm not no way cuz you talk shit on your coach Let's say your coach, you know with your teammates this guy's got to be the biggest fucking dumbest guy

On her in the moment, you know, and then after the game, it's like, oh no, okay so now who's NFL films whose side are they on, you know, and then after the game it's like, oh no, okay So now who's NFL films whose side are they on? Yeah, but That happens all the time right I mean like but those are confrontations that you guys know when you play I mean, there's some of this that goes. Oh, yeah playing. Oh, yeah, and if the public looks and says boy I mean that's what they must hate each other There's a battle not just two competitive guys going after each other, you know, during the moment. Yeah, we have to do that on Mondays whenever there's a fight on the sideline on the NFL.

It's like these guys settle their differences. They moved along. But the mic'd up stuff is crazy. I hope you had a strong stream every time they had Johan, you know, because I don't want them to judge you too much in the entirety of it all. But let's talk. Let's talk about last night, shall we coach? Hey, Alabama in, Miami, Ole Miss, South Carolina out.

If Clemson beats SMU for the ACC Championship, which I think Dabo is expecting to do, does SMU stay in and Alabama get bumped out? What are your thoughts after last night? What's your first big takeaway and how do you feel? Well you know what the hardest one for me in looking at it all is you have no idea if you're in college football what the criteria to make the playoffs is. It not only changes from year to year, it kind of changes almost from week to week.

Now looking into it, I would have go Miami above Alabama. That would be me on the outside but when I really dig into it then I'd have go Miami above Alabama. That would be me on the outside. But when I really dig into it, then I'd be a hypocrite because to me winning has always been the most important thing. Winning is not as important. Hey, don't tell me about your great loss. Tell me about winning. Winning is what matters. Anybody can go lose. I mean, right, but it's hard to win. And when you look at it, and you go really

break it down, Alabama has better wins than Miami. They also have worse losses. So, and the big picture for me in my gut, I would have gone Miami over Alabama, but then I'd be a hypocrite talking about how winning is the most important thing because if you compare the wins, Alabama has what better wins. If you compare the wins Alabama has what better wins you compare the losses Alabama has worse losses so which one do you really go about and where's the criteria now and then football judgment as well go both i'll go i'll go ballistic if sfu drops out with a loss playing right because now if you want to talk strength of schedule doing extra things you should never be punished for playing a championship.

Hey, you get to go play a championship team. This other game's team sits at home. Well, we're gonna reward this team sitting at home. You know, that's not right at all. And how about they've been trying to put an emphasis on conference championships, you know? Like that's been a big part of the discussion is like, that's why the first round bye happens

because we want championships to still matter in college ball. Now this has that happened with this current setup because you don't get a home game and it appears as if number five would be the spot that everybody should be trying to eye. Cause you get a home game and you get the lowest ranked champion that still exists and the lowest ranked team that gets into college ball to make it to the semifinal. So if SMU was to lose in a P4 conference championship and they get

booted out that would directly contradict what they were trying to put an emphasis on. But with that being said do you bump Alabama out because they got three losses? Well Georgia might have three losses by the end of the weekend as well. Alabama beat Georgia so who is the three loss SEC team that gets bumped out? And does Ole Miss in South Carolina get back? There's just so much shit still, you know, coach. So much shit. It goes crazy.

And then you're looking at the Texas. Well, I get back, well, winning's important when you're judging Alabama. Texas and Penn State, I'm still kind of, I mean, I'll even give Penn State credit. I think they have a win over Illinois, right? I mean, at least they have a quality one top 25 win. Where's Texas's good win in all of this? And, you know, so it kind of, they keep changing their, oh, is it the record? Oh, is it the wins? Oh, is it head to head? When does head to head matter? When does it go? You know, I don't know.

But college football has always been right. I mean, you go back to the old days, right? I mean, you had, hey, everyone's just going to go to bowl games and then a bunch of people vote after the bowl games. Then they said, we want to go to like, all right, well, we got to have the two best teams play each other. The computers are figured out. Well, that's not the right way to do it. The computers can't figure it out. Let's get a group of people to vote on it with four teams. Well, they can't figure it out. We need to go to 12. Well, now like, well, who's in, who's out? I don't know. It's, you know, there's, there's, I don't know if there's a great way to do it

unless you just blow up the system and start from scratch. That's 64 team, need 64 team tournament, just like it's March Madness. people would be pissed off about the seating and who gets the easiest road. I mean, it's a, it's a never ending conversation, which is good. But it's still the greatest thing every Saturday, right? I mean, it is still the most passionate, craziest. I mean, you get to see it every week with game day. So lucky. I will say this. I mean, and I've gotten, you know, to go to NFL games now, and NFL games are awesome, and it is the highest level of football, and the crowds are great in the fan base, but it's not like a college campus on a Saturday. No question.

I mean, it's like life and death every single Saturday on a college campus. Not all of them, which would go back to the conversation about the SEC and other conferences and everything like that, because it does feel as if there is more of a this is our religion feel at more schools at the SEC and that's been explained numerous times because they didn't have any professional sports so literally their college teams were their only one and only one in other places there's NFL football that might drag a little bit of attention away and everything like that so I concur concur with the passion, the environment. I think we talked about this gumption. I talked about this.

I think college football better show. I think like when you're watching it better show, like I think the show is better. Obviously football in the NFL is the all star games of all the all star games, of all the all star games. Whenever you talk on the field, but college ball, the passion and the reason why there are so many people pissed off is why college ball is so electrifying and those home field advantages that first round. I'm excited for people that don't know college ball to get a nice OD of college ball for the biggest game of the season. It's going to be awesome, especially with the way it's set up right now. South versus North, North versus South, desert versus Hills.

I mean, it is, we got real clashes taking place. With that being said, let's go to Hammer. Dun, dun, AP Tone has a question for you. Yeah, coach, you talked about SMU and not punishing them for a loss in the title game, or yeah, in the title game, and I agree with you there. What about Penn State and Georgia?

Like how far, let's say Penn State loses to Oregon and Georgia loses to Texas. Do, like does Penn State fall Georgia. Like how far, let's say Penn State loses to Oregon and Georgia loses to Texas. Like does Penn State fall behind Ohio State and Tennessee? Like how much can you punish, let's just say hypothetical Penn State and Georgia if they lose? Well, I think it is, it gets interesting because the argument comes you're not going to kick Penn State, let's start with Penn State, you're not kicking Penn State out of the playoffs with a loss. They're still going to be in, so now it gets to the seeding and now you're not going to kick Penn State. Let's start with Penn State. You're not kicking Penn State out of the playoffs with a loss. They're still going to be in. So now it gets to the seeding. And now you're dropping them to a point where they're head to head now going against Ohio State. And if you go head to head against Ohio State, now do you re-rank? Well, they won head to head.

That's a really interesting one to me. You know, the, the Georgia dropping down, uh, again, I don't think Georgia should be punished and kicked out of the playoffs with a loss, but if all of a sudden they drop down and start getting close to Alabama, then where does head to head come back in because then you start making the argument of, well, on the field, here's Georgia and we have them ranked right next to Alabama who they lost to old miss who they lost to Why play the games, you know, then then why are we playing the games and it it's just becomes a Never had Nick Hennig maybe for the committee at that point and I do I listen I to say they don't do it I just sit there if you're gonna put if all of a sudden George is going to drop

with a loss and they get hugged up against Alabama and Ole Miss somehow, I think they're going to have to find a buffer team in between them to say, Oh, look, they weren't right next to him. So George is in automatically because if you put them right next to Alabama, they don't think like that. They don't think remember not to drop them below them. Remember they don't they don't do that They don't move seeds for anything. This is our this is our ranking. This is our Seeding, you know because like last week or two weeks ago It had like two big ten teams playing each other two SEC teams playing each other and we're like that can't happen That that cannot that cannot happen and they're like, well, they're not they say they're not gonna be

Changing their seeding to make sure we have better games. It's like do though that cannot happen. And they're like, well, they're not, they say they're not gonna be changing their seating to make sure we have better games. It's like, do though. Yeah, make sure you do that. Listen, I want an awesome, I mean, a playoff game, you're thinking of playoff games potentially at Penn State, right in Happy Valley. That atmosphere's got to be part of the week.

Big noon kick up there on ESPN? Night game. Oh, ESPN, huh? I't want to see it at noon. I want to see it at night. Hey Penn State you guys are used to this. Let's make sure we let's do the noon kickoff. Give me that afternoon game in South Bend, Indiana. I mean like just you know what let's also if we can keep some tradition let's like plug some people at different times right. I mean if Penn just, you know what, let's also, if we can keep some tradition, let's like plug some people at different times, right? I mean, if Penn State has a home playoff game,

are they whiting it out? It's not unreal. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, didn't say it. All right, he knows they're not real. Okay, let's get off the college football playoff because we only have a few minutes left and it's our fault because the hard knocks thing that we got into and I am happy to hear that

you're going to watch it. It'll be good. It'll be good. But speaking of coaching, you know, you're a damn good one. D-Bud has a question for you. You are a damn good coach. Killing on TV as well. But from the outside, look it in.

You got two big job openings now. UNC down in the ACC and then WVU in the big 12. What, in your opinion, is the better job opening? And obviously if you're taking that job, you're thinking about the pathway to the playoffs as well. So what's the better job opening, in your opinion? Well, that's a tough call because I think, you said the key thing, which is what's your path

to the playoff of both jobs? And I think both of them had the opportunity to be premier jobs within their conference. Uh, you would think historically, you know, I think on the outside looking in, you definitely say, Hey, North Carolina, you know, I mean, the tar heel, the power, the one thing that that's always interesting in Carolina, there's so many division one schools in that state. You're competing for all that in-state talent. Now you are the flagship of the state, right?

And you have that basketball passion. You know West Virginia's won a lot. I've seen West Virginia ranked number one in the country before. I've seen West Virginia have the opportunity, right, to be up there. They have some glory days where they go and compete for championships and have a bunch of NFL fan players. I know they got a passionate fan base. So I mean, and there's no reason they can't go compete for that big 12 title really quick. So I think they're both I think when people look at jobs, and when you look and you want to compare

them, you say, Where is our job in today's world? Where are we in comparison to everyone in our conference? Because if we win our conference, we get that automatic bid in the playoffs. And that's how you judge it. Not compared to every other job in the country. Where are we in our conference? And I think both of them should be T schools that compete for conference championships on a regular basis.

Okay, coach. I really, are you looking to get back into coaching? By the way, I can make a call. Are you trying to get me out of TV? I love this TV. Like, look, you see how relaxed we are on TV. We're talking, having a good time, having fun. You know, when you're coach, it's signing day today. I mean, it is the most stressful day, right?

I mean, signing day is like you'd have, I mean, we'd have champagne in the office popping, like a kid signs and you're like popping champagne. I mean, no one's slept in college football. I mean, right. I mean, I've been on the phone at, you know, last night. I mean, whatever. I mean, Signing Day keeps changing its days, but there are, I don't know if I can find a signing day where I wasn't on the phone at three o'clock in the morning the night before. Right. I mean, you are on the phone the entire night. You're either trying to hold on, you're trying to flip guys, you're messing with it's why you're 17 years old, but literally my fucking family's life depends. There's never been a truer statement right? College coaches you're

sitting there. Okay well. My life depends on a 17 year old. What you said though there about being able to win you know your conference to get to the college football playoff and I assume there's gonna be a bunch of bonuses at both of those schools in the contracts to be able to do as such. There's a lot and obviously I'm right in the middle of it I'm lucky to be and I'm thankful to be. This West Virginia job there is a lot of obviously I'm right in the middle of it I'm lucky to be and I'm thankful to be this West Virginia job there is a lot of people interested and I like I think it's because of what you're saying like everybody I talked to is like Big 12 has basically automatic bid and you look at

what Arizona State's been able to do pretty quickly at Kenny Dillingham and then you look at where that conference ended up with the amount of parity and where it's at right now and it's's like, uh, West Virginia, you're the only only team in the state, you know, so it is like a sec Feel an sec vibe where this is our professional team Everybody travels to morgan town for those games hundreds of thousands of people in a city that is built for 10 000 30 000 people Every single weekend they fill that place up even when the team's mediocre, you know, and uh, It feels like a lot of people understand that from who I've been talking to. I've only talked to seven coaching candidates that would like for me to put my voice behind them.

But it is like every time I take it as an opportunity to ask like why and what and everything like that. And then I call Ren Baker immediately and I tell him, I'm happy I'm not you brother because I have no idea how you're gonna pick this but he has gotten it right with everything that he has had to do thus far at West Virginia and you look at all the sports around West Virginia men's basketball good women's basketball good men's soccer good women's soccer good but if this football team rifle team best in the world, baseball, baseball team makes it makes it to Omaha, I believe whatever the fuck it is. There it is. Boom.

So it's like, if he gets, if he gets this football one right, it's like Ren Baker, 46 years old, I think is an AD. I got faith in this guy, but I'm happy. I don't have to make the decision that he's making right now. Big, big, well, you would, you would know this, you would know this better than everybody. Like I'm in the coaching world coaches all, you know know this. You would know this better than everybody. In the coaching world, coaches all, you know, they talk, like we have your special fraternity. I've never heard a coach that said they didn't enjoy living in Morgantown, West Virginia.

Like, you know, they enjoyed, like, I like people blow their mind. Every coach I've coached loved living in Starkville, Mississippi. I mean, my family, my kids were born there. Everyone's like Starkville, Mississippi. I'm like great family place. We love to live in there. Everyone loved living there. And Morgan town's the same way. Everyone I've talked to, you know, like they loved living there and had a great experience.

Well, I was, when I was living there, it was a little different than any family's looking to live there. And I think you can live, I think you can live a lot of different ways there in Morgan town, which is a part of it, but there's cheat Lake, cheat Lake right outside of Morgan town. Andantown and it's got mountains around it. It's not expensive. West Virginia is a very expensive place to live.

So you can get these. Mega, mega, mega. On the lake and then your family obviously is appreciative of that. Then schools, we got some good shit available. Good golf? Yeah, the weather kind of hurts in the hills, but you can, there's golf courses.

There's nice golf courses. Nice for like four season. How much are, you know, college coaches have time to golf anyways? Exactly. We need, we need somebody that understands though. West Virginia people want a tough team. They want a tough team. You can't be soft and represent the state of West Virginia.

And I think that is a very real thing. I think Wren understands very real thing. I think Wren understands that. I got full faith in him. But hey, if you want to stress your life out again, love to have you talk to Wren Baker. I'll give you a call if I'm ready for that stress. And I don't want to just chill and relax with you guys. I'll give you a call. You know what? Don't call me. I don't want to feel your... I'm on our TV world. It's awesome. It is the greatest. Is this not the greatest thing on earth? Oh, yeah. We get to talk ball. You know what?

I'm still undefeated as on TV. Like you walk away every Thursday night, a week, Matt Berry and I are on the field with the coaches and I will say this. Like you guys are taught like you missed the locker and you see their hard knocks. There's so many of the things you've missed that you remember those great experiences. You're on the field getting ready to call a Thursday night game. You probably you see the college game day, that height, that feeling, that game day, all of that stuff. You're like, man getting ready to call a Thursday night game. You probably you see the college game that that height, that feeling, that game day, all of that stuff.

You're like, man, I miss this. Then I look at both coaches and no, neither of them are going to sleep a wink tonight because one's thinking we won, but how do we get better? The others think that we lost. But what do I do wrong? How do I get better? No one sleeps. No one does anything. The stress, the line out your line, whether you win or lost, the line out your office the next morning that,

I should have got the ball more, I need this. What do we do? I mean, it's- Got it, stress free, stress free. And I go home after the game and I sleep like a baby. You know, I call the game, we got it done, we go home. You know, Matt Berry and I are, our crew, we go have a beer, we sit in the lobby,

have a good time and I go sleep stress free. Amen. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, Coach, for joining us. Hopefully you'll do it again next week. I can't wait. Anytime you need me. I'm always around.

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The talk stable's here at Boss Conor, Natai Schmidt, nine year NFL vet vet host of everything DB good D bad D Darius J. Butler's here Florida Panthers fan Of course always tough loss always just some bombs absolute bombs in OT, but Bums beat the Panthers last night or goats beat the Panthers last night long season Did you know Nick back me up on this? Hashtag stat that when Gino Malkin's parents who had to get smuggled into the United States back in the day because of potential mob ties in Russia trying to take them out

when they show up at a game good times are had and the Penguins win every single time Nick Morata Is that a factual statement undefeated stat that oh? What I just talked about killed if they try They are a lightning rod every time they're around. I remember when they debuted in Pittsburgh It was literally like a few years after Gino was there, a year after, and they're like told the story, and then them in the crowd. It was just, it's a wonderful squad. It's a bunch of goats that beat the shit

out of your Florida Panthers last night. Yeah, that's right. Hanged a banner. Okay, that ain't the Penguins way of doing things. They got enough cups, pal. Wow. Him talking to us like we don't know how. Guy gets one ban.

That's correct. We got it right now. We got it right now. What do you want me to say? It's right there. We got it right now. Come and take it. Yeah.

Okay. We started last night. What have you done for me lately? Well, we've won. That's what literally I think there's been something that has occurred. It is quite a coincidence. Aaron said yesterday he doesn't believe in coincidences. This is something to believe in.

Yeah, potentially. Something to believe in. You're. This is this is something to believe in. Yeah, potentially Something to believe in. You're damn right. It is something to believe in. Shout out to the Penns being hot for about Since that package arrived right over there. Yeah, basically Essentially, let's go Penns. We're back. We don't suck anymore. Longest win streak in the NHL Not sure if that's true, but that's what I'm saying. Stat that, stat that. Why not? Big win last night against the Panthers, there's Gio from his parents.

Obviously, 2-0, and then the Florida Panthers would get back in, and this would, I mean, the Panthers are a good squad, and that's in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So, Florida understands that they're coming into a hostile barn. 630 left it. No, for 630 left. A lot of seats.

No, there's like a tradition. Everybody goes and gets a drink with seven minutes left. Oh, right. Yeah, so all those people are just getting drinks for everybody else. What's the intermission, like 20 minutes? Well, the intermission is filled with so much. You know, you got Hardox.

Hardox was on. There's so many seats. What the hell? I didn't see that. There's 245 left in the first. Wow. On the board? There's some people who are still getting out of steel mill, bub. OK. Was on there's so many seats There's some people are still getting a steel mill bub, okay three shots to They look like a lot of seats there Never had to take a piss before okay people go people gotta go to the bathroom. There's long lines.

Yeah, sorry. They're drinking water and booze out there. So maybe they do have to pee with two minutes left in the first period. I didn't expect that. Well, I think it was actually, you know how weddings, tables go and eat? Table 14. Now you're telling me they do rows. That's why.

You gotta take a piss. Yeah, yeah, everybody. You're trying to pee cuz whenever the the paint can was built you know it didn't have toilets you know like old Balmer has out there for the Clippers the most amount of toilets in any arenas history or whatever I think PPG paints you got a little bit of an issue with the toilets so each row goes at different times. That is why you see empty rows right there. Two rows off the glass.

That was crazy. That's a big concern. Hard cam side. That was not fair. Can we get somebody to go fill in those seats? Whenever somebody's being, they'll figure it out. Ladies and gentlemen, what's that? Zito said he's watching film on the third.

Oh, a lot of bathroom breaks. What the hell? 3-1, it's over. We got to work in the morning. It's a of bathroom breaks. What that? Work in the morning. It's a work It is a working time You got a work to pay for those seats Game to be over we got work in the morning. That's sad. Because the Penns fans left, maybe that's why Florida was able to come back. What a filthy goal right there. We didn't have burden in it.

No, we won't let you know. We don't care. Okay. We know you guys been stinking with them in between the post. How's Texas hockey doing? Rollin. Still a good squad. Crossed our guy Sagan for four to six months, unfortunately. Four to six months? He's a sniper for the boys. See, in the NHL, they don't have to even say what happened. Guys out four to six months. It was a body.

His body broke down? Just something in his body for six months? Yeah, sorry about it. Yeah. We know he's one of the best known players that we have and one of our best players, but By done work six months or so What the boy is he okay? Yeah, I'll be alright like Sidney Crosby Who Lee has led the Pittsburgh Penguins for the better half of the last two decades legend legend coming out of high school

Up there in Canada cold-ass Canada. Yeah freeze. He was like LeBron James of hockey, you know Like that's literally how they viewed him It's the next Wayne O Wayne Gretzky and he came into Pittsburgh and he just didn't say a word Just want to work want to work want to work want to work and then he missed like a whole season It was like what the hell happened in there like concussion. It's like what a whole where the And then they're like have you ever heard of a spinal concussion? It's like no What what so we what what the fuck happened to this guy? He goes out of nowhere and then,

I don't even think we've ever really gotten an answer. Have we ever really gotten an answer? Some sort of spinal contusion that they were misdiagnosing as a concussion, once they finally got it figured out, they got him treated properly and he's been back and he hasn't had any issues. But that's like the NHL, like, man, man,

something, just so. They'll be fine. And then hockey players are are like when can I get back on the ice line it's like that Paul Biz net story is nasty fighting those six drifters gypsies Irish gypsies yeah I've learned more about Irish gypsies on the internet over the last week since Biz beat the shit out of six of them at one time than I've ever had in my entire life it It's like hockey got, they had no idea, they're from Ireland, Ireland's a great place. We love the country, we can't wait to get back to Ireland. Those gypsies though, that live in this village,

I think in North Carolina, behind like security gates and walls who run scams across the country, I do believe. Scumbags, through and through scumbags. From what I've been reading, you know, and obviously it appears as if it is all 100% true. In business people, they had no idea about hockey players. They didn't know, these guys had no idea. They say, hey, we run these little concrete driveway scams. Okay. Hey, we're doing a driveway down the road. We got some extra concrete. You got 750 bucks, maybe a thousand bucks. We'll just fix your stuff up. Old lady goes goes back I've been waiting for this yeah here's here's

750 bucks oh thank you so much we got it and then they go out they pour a little bit and as soon as that door shut they hop right in the truck and they're out of here and you're never seeing them again you know why cuz they're just heading west like literally just heading west and then they just hit neighborhood and community and community and town town town And then they get the Phoenix, Arizona and they walk into Houston's and they had no idea they met their first hockey player And he ragdolled all of them he did Walking out of a bar

Through a parking lot no shoes no shirts in the head Buckled them what a story hockey's awesome yes it is I can't wait for that season to keep going mm-hmm and that means the pens keep winning I hope what show just so we can talk about it I hope what do you mean well I mean look when the pens go down it's not good for fives inside this Thunderdome when it comes to hockey I mean we're talking about the Bruins, the Sacko, the Sacko heiress five and two. I mean, we're the hottest team in the league right now. Yeah, truly.

Coach Sacko, former Peewee Bees? That's right, former Peewee Bees also come to find out former football guy played division three football up in the Northeast. He's an absolute nuclear weapon dog. So yeah, Sacko and the boys are going right now. All right, well good luck to your team. I hope both of our teams do remain playing well

Amen because it is hard for me to want to talk about it if the pens suck. Yeah Hey, look when the Bruins are good. I don't talk about it either. But that never happened last Friday Yeah, Saco and the boys I think played the Penguins. Yeah, what's what was that number? It was five and what five and two What was one of those? Do you do you recall? Yeah What was that number? It was five and what five and two. What was one of those? Do you do you recall? Yeah Do you recall? Oh, you're talking to me. Yeah, no Friday was a busy busy day. We're both watching NFL football is NFL season Black Friday, it was the Penguins that beat the Boston was that right? Yeah I think it was was it Did in Boston Nick?

It was Boston Nick it was I saw a bunch of empty seats that's not true I know it's not true because we have like the most consecutive sellouts in the NHL by a wide market that was probably consider a sellout to those are season ticket holders that just didn't show that's a sellout because their fans are sellouts that's not oh yeah no Joining us now ladies and gentlemen, is a Columbus Blue Jackets fan. They will be actually playing in the horseshoe against the Detroit Red Wings.

That'll be a draw. I've been told both by this man and also everybody from Ohio said, we get a chance to go in a horseshoe, we're going in a horseshoe. Yeah. Okay, we're gonna take pictures. We're gonna go fill that place up.

It is very cold in there. I'm excited to watch the stadium series and this guy has family playing in it. He also has family that's a Notre Dame legend. He also has, you know, family that are just Ohio State people through and through. He also has family that is the next generation of helmet to helmet hits. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner AJ Hawk Hey, I don't know if you heard this Pittsburgh Penguins good hockey again, welcome back

They're bad. Why do you why are their seat backs yellow? It makes it so much more obvious when you don't have people in the first and second row you make like it's got a blend In more. Yeah, you have to yeah, that was a decision that was made, you know, I Or get seat fillers Maybe when they when they dismiss your row to go take a leak or dump Maybe bring seat fillers in like they do at the ESPYs not only at the ESPYs I think at any event but also if you're a young lad from Pittsburgh

And I refuse to believe that there isn't a bunch of young little hustlers in Pittsburgh right now And you were at that Penguins game And you're sitting up in the top and you eyeball some seats that are open down low. We need you for the good of the Pittsburgh Penguins optics. We need you to go work those security people, make them think those are your seats and get in there. Okay, now don't be acting like assholes in there. Sure.

Cause they will be able to find out. You get the seat, you're lucky, you're a good fan. But also you make the pens look good because that's filled up. No way in hell, and this is, I don't know how many situations it has occurred throughout my life, but if I'm at an event, and let's just say it was just me and a couple of lads,

we're teenagers somehow, we get into an event, and we're last row. We are, the first thing we're doing is saying if there's any, right? We're going section by section too. We're top row, we're going down to like the front of the top, then we're going down to the next section and then we're eyeballing those front row seats.

Bingo, yeah. And you just gotta work these yellow jackets. Every place has them, they're all the exact same. They want the power. You gotta let them have it. And you just gotta think that they're empowering themselves to let you walk by to get back to whoever you gotta do. Work them.

For the good of the penguins, we need you to work these people. Hey Q, I bet you there's too many moon township kids in there. That's why they don't know how to get down to the bottom row. Fool. Moon township would be in the front row. I know I would have been. Okay. I would have been down there.

Okay. I would have told them I would have had my agent call, tell them I got I got a reservation second row. Yeah, thank you still does this with places. He acts as if he is his agent and Obviously he sells the shit out of it 12 year NFL offensive lineman known foodie Super Bowl champion Okay player coach. He is a massive fan of chef insert Whatever the chef's name is whatever because you know that in you do the research Yeah and then if you start selling all the things that the chef did and go so we were wondering if

Since we're both both like-minded individuals Maybe some synergy maybe get a reservation at the restaurant for he and his wife and maybe a couple friends on Saturday around Seven or eight I'll be great and you could call back or text with the response all good thank you so much and I'll let mr. Shipley know what your response is and he hangs up he did this shit right next to me one time and I was just I think I was driving and he's sitting in a pastor's seat we're in a city and we had to go eat somewhere he's like no problem he calls him up he the way he sold himself I'm like oh you've done this

This is a script You always in a script and I'll tell you what we had These seats great seats at the restaurant meal very quickly. I mean it was no problem chef comes out introduces What an honor the whole thing the whole thing We're sitting there biggest assholes in the restaurant by far, and they have no idea that he was selling himself. Yeah, that was amazing. You're right, you would have been down there. No doubt.

No doubt. Thank you, does your fake agent have a name? Do you give a name? It was different every time. It was different every time, but I normally pick somebody that's a big time agent. Oh, you're using real agents. Real agent moves, okay. Oh, this is Tom Condon from, see?

Hey, this is Drew Rosenhouse. Drew Rosenhouse in Miami. David Mugeta. Drew Rosenhouse is like my best friend. What if you go regional? That's smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You drop Rosa.

Yeah, see that? Yeah, smart. Yeah, but you might run into a problem where the person actually knows. Oh, hey, Drew. What's up? You deal with that when that happens. You deal with that when that happens. You deal with that when that happens.

Hang up. Call back different agent. That's right. What a play. Is it true? Joining us now is a man who I assume has never had to do this. No way. They want him. He's been six foot seven since he's ten years old.

Wow. Yep. Guys, a hockey player, you should see his clap on. Oh man. He's a frozen lake swimmer. I've seen it. No big deal. Have you seen it? Oh, yeah all time He's a phenomenal actor. Have you seen this Dicks commercial? Oh, yeah What am I happy insect? Can we showcase the marquee a little bit here this Dicks commercial out of Jade's roller boy in Iran? Showing his chops. I mean it is well written too, very clever. All the all the

movies that are kind of hidden there and he gets a home run. Ladies and gentlemen potentially your defensive end for the remaining of this year because this is the final year in which he might come back and play in the NFL. A member of the Bull Ring of Honor. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ White. Yay! Phenomenal acting, brother. Thank you, I appreciate it very much. It's an honor to be here. What an introduction, I mean.

If I'm known for jumping into cold water and acting and dick sporting as commercials, I'm doing all right. Frozen water, remember you and TJ? It's just cold. Remember it was this one? You remember that, you guys cut a hole in it? I do recall.

I do recall many blisters from the hole because we did it with just a shovel. One shovel? We passed a shovel? We tried a chainsaw, but the chainsaw broke. So it was just, we had two shovels amongst four people. So we were passing around. It took us about two and a half hours to get through the ice.

We're doing it. We're doing it. Hour and 15 minutes in. Yeah, there it is. You can chainsaw right there. So we were passing around, it took us about two and a half hours to get through the ice. We're doing it! We're doing it! Hour and fifteen minutes in. Yeah, there it is. See the chainsaw right there. Yeah. Okay, so as somebody that doesn't live around a frozen lake or anything like that, chainsaw

the normal answer feels like because I watch those ice sculptors, they use chainsaws. Yeah. And they're able to... they paint like perfect pictures now it's gonna disappear yeah no it's gonna melt inevitably is that norm the go-to frozen like life we use no idea but that wasn't the go-to that day I can tell you that it was not the go-to that day yeah but we took us forever with the watts one at any different though no you gotta earn it. Yes. Yes, we would. Yes, we would we would like it different It was it was it was a real bitch man. It was great content guys

That why you're so mad in there all that for this. Is that what it was? Yeah Yeah Yeah, it was cuz then we had to walk so what you can't see is we had a guy pull up a barrel sauna attached to Frozen We had a guy pull up a barrel sauna attached to it Frozen speaking of yeah My frozen go. Yeah, you were frozen Moana to by the way hurts an absolute banger that don't that wicked last night liked wicked. Holy shit. That's very good Yeah, hurt was very good. Her was wicked movie musical. Yes. Yeah, so good. Very good

I don't know if I'm the demo but uh, you would would hate it don't think I am either but I heard it was awesome. I heard it was a heard was great Anyways, what we don't see? Anyways, sorry, you want to a play? Hamilton Yeah, let me you're significantly more cultured than I am, so yeah. That's where we're, yeah. I agree. I agree, now we move.

How was it? Phenomenal, the King, really, whenever he enters, the comedic relief in the self-awareness out of the King, truly phenomenal stuff, I will say. But you know, his name is, I ain't never had one since. You know, you wanna be in the room where it happens. Were you seeing some parallels there? Is that why you liked him so much?

The King? Being with self-awareness, comedic timing Um, I forget the song Uh huh Uh huh I don't think I get it, saw it twice actually, to be clear Twice, on Broadway How far apart?

About a month, about a month apart Same cast? Same cast, yeah. Kind of a bummer. I'm just laughing at that for the whole ship of people. What's that? I'm hearing the song. I remember it, I think. The King.

Yeah. Uh-huh. There we go. There it is. There it is. There it is. There it is. There it is.

That's it. Yeah. That sounds like it. Themeshow. You'll be. Themesong. Wicked had awesome songs. That was a great part of it a name. Sure. You'll be in song. So wicked had awesome songs. That's that was the great part of it.

Okay. Yeah, that song is a banger. You can sing to that. Can I sing? I can dig a hole in a lake. What do we not see from that photo before you got frozen? In that photo, back to a pickup truck, we attached a, there's a big barrel sauna. And so you had to walk from the ice soaking wet,

about 50, 70 yards to the sauna, sit in the sauna for 20 minutes. And we went back and forth three times doing that. It was, the walk was by far the worst part. Okay. And when you guys were walking together, you and TJ, were you like, hey, here's how you maliciously tackle people is that when you guys discuss that is that when because you guys are walking

yeah because you guys are walking through the ice you're like oh it sucks so bad somebody needs to pay for this who everybody we tackle we are gonna what you call it death roll death roll trying to, now they showed it on Heart, the NFL, in NFL films, chose to show that play in slow motion in 8K on Hard Knocks last night. So I think the NFL said something without saying something, saying like, hey, this is not what you're saying it is.

How did you feel about the reaction though, people saying what they were saying about Teage in this particular tackle? They're saying he held on too long. He was gator rolling. He was trying to hurt him Not everybody was saying this not every bangles fan was saying this but there was certainly a contingency saying that about Teej And you seemingly got very pissed off about it. Oh No, I was I was just there's some idiots out there that's just that that's just the fact of. And I just simply provided a nice clean link

to a Seattle Seahawks tackling drill that was the exact tackle that he made right there, which is the way that NFL players are taught to tackle to protect themselves and the person that they're tackling. You don't want to hit guys too high. You don't want to hit guys too low. You don't want to hit guys too hard, you don't want to hit guys here and there. So what we have taught is a gator roll tackle where you tackle at the waist, the upper legs and you roll to get the guy down to ensure he gets down. That is a picture perfect example of that. And if you want to cry about it, that's your own problem.

Go play a sport and try it yourself and see what it's actually like on the field instead of sitting behind your computer in the basement complaining about it. Now we're talking tough guy tough guy. That's what we're talking about right there Jade and I appreciate how mad you got because it was almost like they were implying that Teage was a dirty player you know like that is almost what was being talked about and I liked how upset you got. Now whenever they changed the tackling rules you know that's why these things started happening the videos of how to tackle and if you watch that playback It is actually not just the tackle that's perfect for him swipe it ball secure tackle

I mean it was like a textbook I would say textbook exactly a textbook play so I appreciate that you have a microphone and platform to be pissed off Nah, you're not taking this. No, no, no, no. This is literally exactly what we work for all off season and why Teage does what he does. What a big time win over the Bengals. The NFL basically called somebody a dirty player. AJ has a question for you.

Yeah, Jade, your old squad, obviously Al Shair, with the hit on Trevor Lawrence, everyone's talking about he gets a three game suspension. GM Casario comes out and defends him big time and so does D'Amico. Ryan, what do you make of this whole situation going on? Yeah, I mean, I understand the outrage and everything coming from the hit. I mean, it looked absolutely brutal. It was brutal.

I mean, it's a very tough, tough play and you want Trevor to be okay and that's hands down first and foremost number one. And I do think that there's justification for punishment there no doubt. I do also think that the punishment is extremely harsh, especially when you listen to what Conserio said and you listen to the comparisons to other punishments that have been handed down across the league and you look at the history and just the precedent there. The inconsistency in the punishment is an issue, but I understand that there should be a punishment handed down there. I also think there's a full nother conversation to be had about sliding, fake sliding, when

you think a guy is going to slide. People have no idea how difficult that is at full speed when we have quarterbacks fake sliding out there and you look like an idiot if you don't tackle them. Jage, that's been the narrative that's coming. Aaron talked about it, Tom Brady has talked about it, I think a lot of players are talking about it, I think Casario talked about it, Tomiko talked about it, I think there's a lot of people, maybe media obviously is

not addressed. Oh no, this guy. Let it go. Where is it? Classic England. I don't know. Are you in England right now? No, I'm in an attic in Wisconsin. Classic Wisconsin.

What's going on up there in the sky above? I'm trying to decide right now. I have my wifi on. I'm trying to decide if I go to the 5G or if I stay on the wifi. Let me tell you, let me tell you, my phone that I decide right now, I have my wifi on. I'm trying to decide if I go to the 5G or if I stay on the wifi. Let me tell you, let me tell you, my phone that I have right now, and I need the new one, this is the worst one.

I got the worst iPhone that's still operating, okay? I know it. It doesn't, it connects the internet, but it won't do the internet. Oh, okay, it's still bumpers and stuff. Yeah, like it won't do it. But then as soon as I go off internet and I go on 5G or LTE even immediate upload

It's like what do you so now you're running up the score for my Verizon? What do you think? It's right. So stay with the Wi-Fi or should I gamble 5g much? I go What's on is right here? Yeah Signals he's wearing the air pods to exactly Yeah, but I you're screwed. So we're in trouble with that cuz I've been that's I have to use it Oh, I use it all the time to glitch you need to I think you need to hop over. I'm going I'm doing it Just checking careful head blow up. We're off Wi-Fi Time we got one

We can't oh No, it's not you know, I can see you can't hear you One two three one two three Yeah, one two three mouth moving. Yeah, so he's just Guys, you can't play this trick on me. You guys tried all the time. I think it's turned out We can see you see you I don't fall for these games It's crazy we think it's, we think it's back. Put him back up.

Ailey? Don't fall for this bullshit, man. Don't try and get me with your games acting like it's all seven of you and that knee is outside. He's losing it. Who doesn't get in on the jokes? He's losing it. I wish there was like some gap.

Yeah, yeah. You just did it great. You said something great and we couldn't hear a single word of it. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, I can't hear anything. It looks like he's pretty pissed. Well, he might

still be upset I don't want it from the back row you shut up from the back I didn't see you talking sorry I talked over you there I think sorry about that that's on man did you see the graphic we made just is it good now what now we can't hear a word the guy say saying. Let's get our shots in. What an embarrassment. Yeah, go ahead. He can't say anything. He can't defend them.

Let me think. Does Burleigh still stink, Gump? Okay, yeah. Let's give this guy more air time. Gump, Gump, any C word? Burleigh's been doing pretty well, actually. Oh, okay. Top four in the league.

Shout out. Nine points out of nine. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. We heard you there. We heard you there. You were full of scores. Oh, so you heard the Burleigh. Okay, so you could hear us. We didn't know if you could hear us. We couldn't hear you. Oh, we heard you there. We heard you there. We heard you there

Oh, what? Oh, so you heard the bird? Okay, so you could hear us. We didn't know if you could hear us We couldn't hear you. All right, let's move along here. Did you hear Casario and D'Amico and how fantastic is that if you're Aziz to hear your general manager literally come I think he had to set up a press conference to do this. Like I I don't think he was Mandated to speak. I think he said like I'm conference to do this. Like I don't think he was mandated to speak. I think he said like, I'm gonna go do this. If you're Aziz, that has to feel great. And if I'm a Texans fan,

I think that makes me feel very good about the culture that's down there in Houston. Yes, I agree. And I think it's one of those things that other fan bases from the outside are looking and they're saying like, how do you defend this or that? Cause there's no question, it looks bad when you're watching it. And other fan bases look at that and say, how do you defend this or that? Because there's no question, it looks bad when you're watching it.

And other fan bases look at that and say, how do you defend this? But if you're inside the organization or if you're a Texans fan, you're like, okay, everybody in this building is going to bat for me. We are all one. And if they're turning it into like an us against the world, then good for them. Yeah, you were going back. Can't hear a word you said, Rick. Son of a bitch.

Man. Damn. That stinks, doesn't it? It does. Why does that happen? I do think he was making a good point that when we could actually hear him there at the end. The Texans turning it into they're targeting us.

Look at what they're doing to our captain. They're suspending him three games. The NFL doesn't even want us to win. Little old Houston, even though they're like the fifth largest city, the third largest city in the United States of America, whatever it is. It is, you could frame it that way. I love that, that is the case.

Certainly young quarterback who's having a bad year. Remember the conversation is, it was last year. The amount of things that D'Amico, and I guess Casario can pull from to get them back on track would be deep, especially with the NFL calling this unsportsmanlike like dirty seemingly play Yeah, go ahead and circle the wag as used to but I like you mentioned it yesterday in the day before don't look now

Let's have it here. We got a bye week this week big win. Not a moment. What's that? I mean we can do this charade Okay, but we don't have to act like the Colts have a real chance. All right Okay, but we don't have to act like the Colts have a real chance. All right I got like a 13% chance. Yeah, I'm bringing up percentages Percent I forget what analytics is it's not a no, but they're not gonna make it. They're still in the hunt They're gonna lose to the Broncos and that's gonna be all she the Colts are two games I and you saw it with your own two eyes against Patriots this past weekend. Bingo.

Exactly. I saw my own two eyes and we all know what the Patriots are this year. They got the future of the NFL with Drake May and then aside from that, you know, he there's not much there and they should have lost. Did you hear what Bill Belichick said? He said when he was asked when does he know his team's a good team? He said in big-time situations how they respond respond 19 play drive at the end of that thing incredible and then go for two To seal the win by one. I mean that's a big situation huge at pagers are three and nine man So they had to do that. Hey listen What does that mean?

Any given something that fell brother broncos needed two pick sixes against a what three and nine bronze team. Okay, look Teams got the teams got guys. Okay. Look you want to see what Drake may can do with the Jerry Judy He'd bring him in see what happens there the brass. Yeah, that's a good football team Okay, the Patriots on the other hand we've all talked about it they're in a transition you're here, okay But look, I hope the colds do well I'm just I want to set set you guys up for success when in a negative leave you goes to shit There's a chance of that obviously joining us again. I do believe back on the internet and soon, okay

Cuz you gotta check what the up and down is see that's the issue How many they sell you on the down on the internet like 500 down or whatever 350 gig or whatever they say it's like is that up or down? Because down is where everybody thinks you but if you're a person that's doing stuff you need to up to be up Yeah, cuz you're sending that's the Google speed test. Yeah, yeah bingo. That is exactly what it does. It doesn't mean anything for this Yeah downloads not believe me. I've You need you up

So whenever you're going somewhere you need to know and you know I've only learned that through Zito because we have conversations with people who are obviously much smarter than we are Definitely smarter than Zito as they say whenever they're talking to Zito and then all of a sudden Zito just starts to ask any questions And all of a sudden you see this person. Nobody's ever asked me a question before, I'm normally the all-knower of everything because it's tech. And then all of a sudden you hear responses and then Zeta goes, but doesn't that also? And then all of a sudden it's, oh, yeah, we're in here now. But that is the thing, you need to be up. And you know who's up? In the Bull Ring of Honor.

Who's that? You know who's going to be up to be a first ballot Hall of Famer in a few years? This man, who's always up. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Y. Yay! Let's see what we got. Sorry. Is this your parents' house?

No. This is your log cabin? I remember seeing this. Remember they said you live in a log cabin in the woods of Wisconsin, and I saw it, it's like a 14,000 square foot. Yeah. It's a log hotel. Thousands of acres. Yeah, it's- a 14,000 square foot yeah it's a log

yeah it was made out of logs so but the way they laid it out is I thought you were walking outside like you did with the shovel and with axes and have like no heat just like just a firewood fire yeah yeah I don't think I helped myself much with my description of it either it certainly could have painted a better picture for people Well, I want to live and learn I want to let you know when I saw it. I said Wow, I didn't know that house was possible that is certainly what we're looking forward to Obviously massive success story in the NFL this year and we were just talking about it this Bo Nix guy

Okay We just talked about the Broncos and we're talking about in the hunt and the Indianapolis Colts look out if the Houston Texans continue We're in the hunt. You see that look out for what well Houston Texans, you know, hey with things way things You guys just lost captain three games. Yeah There's Nick series cold press conferences thing, you know, there's a lot going on down there and all the Colts have done What is what's the cold scenario? It's it's they got to beat the Broncos and win out essentially right? Yeah we're racing against the Broncos for that wild card but then we if we catch you you guys have the tiebreaker because you beat us twice.

Yeah we got a two-game lead because we beat you on the tiebreaker. We were head to head, two and oh. Different team then, bub. A lot has happened. A lot has happened. A lot has happened. A lot has happened with this particular team. You know, quarterback stuff, building stuff, media stuff, everything stuff has happened.

Are they galvanized now? Were you the galvanizer? Did you bring everything together? Potentially. Good luck to them. I'm pulling for them. But they just went on a 19 play drive to beat the Patriots and then went for two instead of kicking it to win the game outright.

And then Anthony Richardson's running people over again. They're hot right now. They got to catch up to the Broncos right now. That is the conversation in that particular graphic. But Bo Nicks and Sean Payton seemingly a perfect match. How do you feel about him? How do you feel about the other rookie quarterbacks? What are your thoughts on this young class? I Think it's a great example in my personal opinion of how situations matter

For not only rookies, but for everybody in the NFL you watch I look at that situation last year You look at Russell Wilson with Sean Payton clearly that wasn't working out whether it was between the two of them Whether it was a one-way street, whatever it was You know everybody you paint Russ out as having such a bad year when you actually sit down look at it Not that bad of a year goes over to the Steelers now and is playing phenomenal football Just because it didn't work out in one spot doesn't mean it's not working out in another Sean Payton clearly had his eyes on a different quarterback He goes out in the draft and he gets Bo Nix and Bo starts out maybe a little shaky, but now is

playing some really good football. And that's an example of just developing and knowing what you want, giving the guy an opportunity, surrounding him with good pieces and he's having a chance at success. That's what we talk about in the NFL with all these things, the Bryce Young situation in the Carolina. You put him in right away, you want him to be an all-star you want him to be a pro bowler his rookie year He thought you bench him you sit him down people are asking is he ever gonna play for the Panthers again? Should they trade him comes back out now? He's playing great football. The NFL is all about the right situation It's about developing players. We continue to forget that you're supposed to develop players.

I get it, everybody wants instant gratification, but we're now seeing it in college. We're having the same issue now in college where we're not developing players, we're not growing players because everybody just wants to go to the portal and find another player to plug and play. You forget that some guys have to grow and develop as a human, as a player, as an athlete.

And I fear that we're going to have an issue moving forward where we're not, we're just hoping everybody's great to start. You're saying that about players. I think Aaron was saying it about GMs and coaches and the big fear is obviously what if you wait and have the patience and then it never comes, then you're just, you know, and I think that is scared people to death I'm not saying that's more likely than not likely but I'm just saying that is potentially the fear for people because especially in the social media world where you hear everything it's like ownership if you sit around like she the Fordham did with the Detroit Lions right with Holmes and Campbell MC DC and Brad Holmes when they started out 0 and 10 the MC DC and Brad Holmes. When they started out 0-10 the first year

and then the second year they're 1-6. And she actually, I watched the video yesterday that Erin was talking about. She goes to the practice squad, or to the practice facility and does like a press conference and says that she has faith and belief in what they're doing and starts pointing out all the things she likes.

And it's like that ended up being the perfect decision. The best decision ever in franchise history. Boom but what happens if MC DC and I'm not now that she knew but if he doesn't work out and Brad Holmes doesn't work out then it's like you still fired Jim Caldwell for Matt Patricia now you got this one you're holding on to for this entire thing and we end up sucking forever. It's uh I'm happy I don't have to make those decisions but with, I think there's some things you can see probably that it's like he'll be great whenever he goes forward because you think about Josh Allen, there's a guy, year one, year two, year three, year four, year five, it just got better and better and better.

Is there some traits you'd look for to find out if they're the right person to wait on? Well, there's also a CYA situation. Everybody's trying to cover your ass. They're all trying to cover their own ass to make sure that they're not the one on the line when something goes wrong. So if you have somebody that you can put the blame on, that's not yourself,

that's what a lot of people are looking for. And sadly, that's how it ends up that we're moving on from people is because somebody with a little bit higher power says it's not my fault. It's that guy's fault. And then we move on from that guy. I get to keep my job. I feel like that's a bigger issue. Hey, to your point there, and this is completely different

than what we're talking about right now. The fact that Ren Baker has like come out and said, I'm the one hiring the head coach for the West Virginia football team as opposed to what some of these schools I don't know how many they they hire like third-party consulting firms to basically do it because then if the person sucks it's like oh we're never gonna use that firm again bull we're gonna actually use this firm over here so there's like no accountability on this so Ren Baker I want to let him know you coming out and being like

This is my decision. We've that's your job I think but also I love it because if it goes great He should get the flowers and like Sheila Fordham should get the flowers for having a patience And if it goes to crop at least we know you know and it is in a big one of these situations Which we need less of those in would you take the job? West Virginia. Yep. I'm not the right guy for the for that job. You know, I know my limitations I've thought about it because if I wanted to make a big strong public push I could probably you know

Put enough pressure on red to have to interview me and then in the interview process would I be able to win? Mmm, I could probably put on a pretty good display in there. Talking is a pretty good thing that I have football knowledge and ability to understand the modern world business-wise and branding and marketing, but also what teams win, what teams lose. I have an incredible amount of intelligent football people around me. So if you put me in the room, I'd probably be okay, you know? But with all that being said, that's that day, you know, do I want to wake up the next day as the head coach of a college football team in 2024?

Good to hear. AJ, would you join his staff? He'd be forced to. No, I think it's, yeah, I mean, if I could stay in Ohio and coach possibly, but I think Rich Rod, how do you not give the job to Rich Rod? Okay. Rich Rod Regas is the guy. He has to be. His name is up there now.

Okay, his name is now being a part of the conversation and I think it has been for the last few years It's crazy. It is crazy. It is That would be one of the wildest things in the history of sports Like a lot of college football with how it I don't know some crazy things have happened where guys have been hired back to where things Have happened. No, but if he goes and wins a national like oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah if rich rock brings a national like oh yeah yeah yeah if Rich Rod wins a national championship slow down we've seen them definitely bring a bunch of juice a bunch of excitement man and a tough team Jay win a big 12 okay is that what you want yeah okay that's what we want the coach that's going

in there to think yeah right which is not a bad idea to win the big 12 you're in a college football playoff you get in the dance anything. You're in a college football playoff. You get in the dance, anything can happen. Literally any single college football game, anything can happen. But if you think about, like Rich Rod just went down to Jacksonville State, I think he had to overturn his entire roster and they're in the American Conference Championship this weekend.

So it's like, he's going to win, like that is what he's going to win, I think. That is just what Rich Rod has done, except for Michigan, he was even starting to win there. Like we need to get him the hell out of here never going to be a fit up there. Arizona terrible ending, Jacksonville State he gets them Jacksonville State to win and become must watch television and it's like but if he was going to go back to West Virginia I mean there would have to be a lot of conversations by a lot of people and believe me it has been an awesome interaction between me and former teammates talking about the entire

Idea in the thought of it and how much you know, it'd be like, all right We're going we got to go watch like we got to go if this is happening We got to go see this entire thing But then there's so many other West Virginia connected people that want the gig as well So it's like for me It's been very hard to even like I talked to Ren and it's like the last thing I want to do is put more pressure on Ren you know like and who I think he should pick. He is the one that is tasked with making this decision. He's the one who has done a

great job in figuring out who should lead a program, an organization and when I talk to him I just tell him like hey this person reached out hey this person reached out hey this person reached out have you heard from this person they're reaching out and then I'm just telling him like hey you're gonna do a great job but whatever you good luck this is your just dumping information on him and it's here to take it boom yeah hey I'm just letting you know what you need and then also you know with this new April 8th ruling that's coming where it's gonna be a revenue share situation For college, I think D1 I think it's coming April 8th

I believe is the day the judgment is supposed to come it'll be a salary cap That's what everybody's talking about but I thought the teams just getting that money They're gonna their revenue is gonna have to earn the amount of money to get there So it's like while I'm talking to Ren about why somebody would or wouldn't want a job in the salary cap, and I'm learning more about the entire situation, I'm like, Wren, there are certainly events that we could put on that up the revenue, right? Like if we just do a show at Coliseum where the basketball team plays, that's just like we can make that a sports thing, right? Because it's in there. Absolutely. That's how it works. We own the building. So it'd be a part of revenue. So it's like, there's actual ways to assist a team. And I think I'm kind of learning that

through this entire process, which has been the most exciting. And whoever the hell Ren picks, I think, will be a good hire. But there's a lot of West Virginia Ties that want that job. And a lot of people I'm friends with. So I'm like, I think you'd be great. You guys have great uniforms So we'll give you that you guys do uniforms. Well great uniforms

Judge this is the problem with West Virginia right now. Yeah, it can't be leading off There's nothing else I could say they're saying there's nothing I can say you know why Because this guy's school came in opening week and remember what he said. Oh, yeah, but that's gonna change It's not like Wisconsin's been beating anybody. Yeah at all. But we're aware. We're aware. We're aware. West Virginia I think. I will say it's a good looking sweatshirt and cute. I don't want to say it but it is a good looking sweatshirt. Thank you. You guys should do more of this. Yeah I agree. You guys. I've been real loud about it. You guys should do more. I heard a lining up in muddle huddles and Tight ends a quarter. Just well now let's go lineman in motion three plays in a row. Yeah, that worked well to have Tired Warren football. Okay. Yeah, I agree 20 touches this week. Hey we are Penn State It's a very person Dan Lanning is gonna have a nice video lined up. He's gonna have some

Gladiator two or something for the team. How about his message this week? This past week was... The Inglorious Basterds one? Yeah about the baseball bats crushing skulls. Hey this is rivalry week. We're going Inglorious Basterds. We're going all the way and then at halftime smashing a helmet remember what we said we were gonna do in this thing Let's get and then obviously the thumbs down like each week. I couldn't imagine those team meetings walking in going All right, what are we? Yeah, we want if he ties Moana to into this every cool What if wicked what if the raw what's wicked is wicked? That's like the coaches mentality though able to find motivation What's wicked is wicked. That's like the coaches mentality though able to find motivation

It just floats up into the other team meeting room defying gravity. That would be amazing. Is that from wicked? Yeah, yeah, it's the closing song. It's like the popular one people have heard. What's it selling? Oh, that's that's kind of the one that I didn't love as much as the other one. This is in theaters Come on. Yeah, and oh, yeah, see you't like Defying Gravity. That's not what I said. I said, didn't love. I'm so cool with my mullet. I'm different. Dude, that's the opposite. I like to do some other people like Nickelback.

You watch, do you like? I loved it. Popular is my favorite song by a mile. I'm just saying that's like the one from the commercials where everyone's going crazy about it. It's like on TikTok and stuff. The only commercials I've seen is them sitting down doing interviews. Yeah, me are good commercials real emotional yeah that's not a

commercial yeah those ones aren't promos those are promos press junket i've seen that's why people haven't seen the movie but they need to put jj watt in the commercial his commercials are good you felt good at coming out of that dicks one didn't you i don't want to circle back to it that was that was one of my favorite ones of film it was a blast man. I mean, it's literally Iconic movies from when I was a kid like it was a dream I'm also just in between takes playing and the store and my family was there. Yes. It was awesome You on those blades to he got to show off. Yeah Hey the big guy still can wheel a little bit squeezing into the car the outtakes with his brothers Oh my god, you we need more outtakes too in society as a general

So i'm happy you guys are doing yeah, that used to be a big part of the program I'd stick around to watch outtakes at the end of entire things jj watt productions bringing them back smart. Thank you jj We appreciate you jj. All right If I could figure out how to produce my own interview on the Pat McAvoy show every Wednesday, that would be great. First of all, how about I get the internet connection figured out, then maybe I'll start a production company. It's just upload speed. It's not your fault at all. It was, maybe Smire's Gypsies came through and actually sold the false bill of goods. Nonetheless, let's get back to the NFL. Thursday night, phenomenal game.

Phenomenal game. Oh yeah. A.Q. Shipley has a question for you, James. Yeah, big game tomorrow, could change the whole landscape of the NFC North. Who do you got and how do you see this game going tomorrow night? I'm very much looking forward to it. Obviously, thank you Captain Obvious myself for the statement. But until the Lions, until you're proven otherwise I can't say that you know, you can't take anybody over the lines. They're just it's just Running the ball throwing the ball defense taking it away like it's they're winning at will and so in their building Against the division rival you have to believe they're gonna be jacked up all the way I'm looking forward to seeing how the Packers attack them. I want to see how they handle that. But

the offensive line of the Lions is just really enjoyable to watch. And I'm very glad I don't have to play against them. Amen, powerful team, a bunch of dogs. I do believe for the Lions, very injured. Very, very injured. A lot of a lot of key pieces that they've been able to win. They've been able to win and dominate. But it's like like how long are they able to just keep going without missing a beat I genuinely have no idea need some D lineman need a lot of help on the defense JJ need somebody to get to a

quarterback once or twice again. Aiden Hutchinson is walking I saw he's walking so we're on the path. Cut the crap JJ we need you pal all right. His name is JJ Watt. I'm ready to trust him. I'll be there next weekend. I'll be there next weekend. JJ Watt. Oi, oi, oi. You feel good, I know you're still fit. I'll be there for the Bills game.

I'll be there. In uniform? Why don't you go a day early, stop by the facility, see if you like what you're looking at, maybe do a little workout Maybe high with an a little bit get a little feel see how the body is and then you know, maybe instead of working This is an interesting conversation because obviously AJ D

But like those positions are very different than my position, but at my position I'm I was just thinking in my head could you show up on Sunday in? But at my position, I was just thinking in my head, could you show up on Sunday and play? Like all they need to do is just say on third down, just rush the passer because you don't need to know the playbook whatsoever. You definitely could at defensive line. If, okay, so he'll be there next week.

Wisconsin's closer to Detroit. Yeah, well, I mean, maybe he does pop in for Green Bay. Is that what you're saying? Or you're saying get to this right now. No, I'm just saying, yeah. This with Thurston Barrett Knight. Yeah. Yeah, why not driver? He's in Wisconsin. Yeah, he's right there Hmm, I mean, I'm very excited. What's your move?

They throw him the ball to put him in all first third down you go straight full rush straight poor So let him know you still got it. Let him know you still got Let him know you still got it. You set up your next move and also you just don't want to fall flat on your face, look like idiot your first time out there because you know the whole world's going to be watching your first pass. Okay. So what happens if you do that and you're an old man now and you go for that bull rush and Dion dockets, boom, and you end up right on your face.

Is that when you say bad decision? Is this why nobody's ever done this or is there no chance? Walk back into the tunnel. I just walked right back into the tunnel. I got that tried it didn't work. All right. Antonio Brown it. That'd be so cool. All right. There's nothing worse than the hands knocked down on a bull rush, man. You just feel like a pure moron laying on the ground. And then the worst is when you get a guy like a queue who then lays on top of you after yeah, I can't get up in your life Yeah, they go that what's that one exercise where you go

You go arms and legs Superman Superman Superman stretch. That's what all those O linemen do to it I'm not holding or kicking just full body weight on top of the you. That's right. Yeah, that is a good move I you love this game coming up. I guess tomorrow night, huh? Cuz it's gonna be a lot I do but the one thing I wanted to bring up was the fact that if Taylor Decker Doesn't play the two games He hasn't played was against was last week and then against Houston and they struggled in both of those Taylor Decker was in a Michigan fit. I do believe on the internet I did I saw that him in a Michigan fit.

So if he's not playing and he's in a Michigan, oh no. Oh no. That's tough. Skip will be in there. Skip. Skip. Skip. Skip.

They need to let Penne throw a little bit more. Amen. He was throwing in practice yesterday. He looked good. It was awesome. He's phenomenal. That was unbelievable. I can't wait for the play action, Whirly Bird, handoff to Ragnar on the reverse pass. It's happening. So you think

Ragnar is going to end up throwing the ball to Penne? I don't know. I don't know to who but Ragnar is getting a pass this year. You watch. Look at how fast he's going. He's going to tour and peck. Is it his left peck or his right? It doesn't matter. He should not be without a peck. Yeah, Ragnar is a different animal. Are the Lions capable of continuing to go with all the injuries I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know. We're still Super Bowl favorites So the books think we can you guys a little reckless, right? Yeah, I mean penalty wise for sure like the hackers. Yeah, the Packers are Jordan love hasn't turned it over in three games So we just kind of the thing he did last year

He wasn't great the first half of the season and then he closed out like the last seven games of the season. He had 18 touchdowns and one interception. But penalty wise, I mean, like they've had, I think, the 20 offsides penalties this year, which is by far the most in the NFL. They had like four on and they're not even jumping. They're just like lining up in the neutral zone, stuff like that. So like that type of shit, especially when you're playing the Lions, I feel like will bite you in the ass. But the Packers are playing their

best football right now for like by far. Great Thursday night football game. Let's stay in the NFC North. Connor has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, how'd you feel about what happened at the end of the Lions game last week on Thanksgiving? And obviously now Eberfluss fired. He's done. Jalen Johnson comes out. He said, you know, he kind of did the JJ Watt and smacked Iber Fluse in the face after the game did it actually but Of course, but allegedly there was a heated exchange. What do you think about that situation and kind of the future of Chicago? Yeah, I don't I don't think you were walking back into a team meeting and talking to that team and having them take you seriously

the rest of the season Just the different ways that they've done it this year the different decisions that have been made and that one putting an team meeting and talking to that team and having them take you seriously the rest of the season just The different ways that they've done it this year the different decisions that have been made and that one putting an exclamation point on it And there's no I've heard all the arguments I've seen it all online about how Caleb handled the end of the game and him deserving some blame to Unquestionably does deserve some blame for it But at the end of the day You're the head coach with a timeout in your pocket

that you can use. At some point during that sequence, you call that timeout and you say, all right, let's figure this shit out. So no, I think it was 100% the right call. If he walked back into that team meeting on Tuesday, he would have lost. There literally might've been guys

that would walk out of the room and be like, I'm not taking this seriously. This organization is not taking us seriously. So I think they had to do it on the right move. They're saying Cliff Kingsbury, you know, because of his ties to Caleb Williams and they I mean, just like the internet and reports and everything like that. Does Cliff Kingsbury want to become a head coach again after what he's doing with the commanders right now with Jaden Daniels?

There's only 32 head coaching jobs, I guess is how they always talk about it. But I think his life is probably much Much better. Yeah, I would I would assume a mulling as the OC. Yeah, exactly Let's like Dan Quinn handle all the head coaching stuff, especially it's going good I could do that Is there an amount of money that would get you away from that or does he want to run a ship again and have it be? Super successful as opposed to what happened in Arizona? TBD I think that'd be a good time for Caleb and then if you start thinking about the future of that NFC North Not only right now you guys got a tough division. Yeah almost becoming the AFC North

Congratulations AJ knows it's been good vision for a long time But yeah, I mean like the Lions being good now like it it is and we'll see what happens with JJ McCarthy But the you know Vikings are there no push-ups. I don't be in there We assume they're always gonna be good offensively MC DC's not good anywhere. Nope the floor submitted in bears kind of stink But they'll be back Caleb's a talent Let's never forget it just like we're back tomorrow as the Lions and Packers will kick off week 14 of the NFL season Nailed it boy. that was right there.

I think the graphic might have been off from that clock though. I'll tell you, I thought I had a few more seconds. Golden bat. And then the graphic. That could have been me. Golden at bat. We need it. Your reaction yesterday.

I did not know that was coming. And then Jet Passing was like louder, Ty. Baseball people hate that. Yeah, it's just dumb. It's just Mickey Mouse. You don't need to do it. Jage, have you heard about this? Golden at bat.

We get one more show. Hey with Tony at bat. I Did say what do you think it's insane? Why you think it's like a state fair? Yeah, I think it's like your local softball league like hey guys, we got a funny rule for the last game Yeah, exactly. I mean what's next if you hit two home runs in an inning we start counting outs No, no, we want more home runs. You know, you can double the points for more home runs. Very cool. You get a home run you get to at bat again You get to go again. Yeah, maybe make it take you. Yeah, cuz you That's different though How many pitchers would they sub?

They bring in another pitcher, right? Depending on where it's at in the game. If that's the first inning, that starting pitcher is going to have to get that guy out. He's just going to have to fucking sit in there and he's going to have to get him out. Imagine a dual, eight straight dingers. Boom. Do I have to run the base? Well, after three, that pitcher's fucking throwing it at the guy's head.

He's not going to let him hit four off him. He's going to, I'm going to fucking get this guy out of the game I'm really gonna baseball you think that they would decide, you know, hey like gentlemen, we're gonna settle that you hit him That counts as a home run It's the gold in that bad thing like are they like that's just like a Like, no, not that. Like, is the gold in that bad thing? Like, are they like, was that just like a, where are we at?

So I think we've learned what? From numerous different people, from numerous different sports. There is certainly a business model of floating things out anonymously, seeing the crowd's reaction, and then adjusting accordingly. Every league has done it.

Every league has said, you know, and it'll just be leaked through some source, like allegedly there's a conversation or Rob may, or they'll say the commissioner is eyeing a potential this, and then they check the feedback. And then whenever the commissioner actually goes up, I never say, we obviously, we are obviously always thinking about what we can do

and ideas. So I think there is like a protection that is done by these leagues by leaking some things to see what the public reaction is. And if they were to test the temperature of the baseball people, I think the baseball people hate it. But I still think our idea, the gold ball. But that's what concerns me is that they thought like they had to take the temperature on that idea like Oh, you can't take that temperature in your own room. You're you're the problem Like like what the hell you don't need to leak that to figure out if people are gonna like that or not

Like if you don't know that you don't know baseball I would like to like be running it. I would like to let Jade snow and the baseball world No, I'd be more likely to tune in if I knew a golden buzzer was gonna be hit You know I would I would if if show hey was gonna potentially what put some gold gloves on with a gold bat And a gold baseball. I'm watching They want the younger demo man, they want younger fans. Give a shit about the younger fans No, no fucking kid is sitting around and watching a two-hour and 30-minute baseball game Wait on the golden buzzer is not fucking doing it

Like they shorten the games like and that was great for like me because I guess what I'm watching the whole fucking game No matter what and it's great that There's 45 minutes of just fucking nothing that I don't have to watch anymore. But to think that a fucking seven year old is gonna be like, holy shit, baseball games for like two and a half hours now? Like that's fucking ridiculous. That was never part of the deal.

It wasn't. And I agree with Jay, Rob Manfred's a dipshit. Like we can start and we can, you didn't say it. I agree with JJ. He did kind of say that. You did kind of. You are the problem. Yeah, exactly.

Like we can start and end there. Like exactly. If you had to throw it like, wow, that's actually, that's a pretty good idea. Let's do it to fans thing. And obviously everybody who watches baseball fucking hates it because it's a joke. It makes a mockery of the game. It just does That's not the fucking way it goes if we're gonna do that then you pay three guys 700 million dollars each and that's your team. Let it let each of those guys bat nine times a game. Let's just fucking

And that's your team let it let each of those guys bat nine times a game. Let's just fucking Put a guy in the middle of the infield at second base have a pitcher Just have a bucket hole behind home plate for the throw in and then put a guy in center field See this is why they float the ideas out there so they can get better ideas This is a good idea. Home run derby every game. That's what I'm talking about. That wouldn't be though. You know what that would be? It'd be fucking guys who don't hit homers slapping it down the third baseline and then you'd have the one guy in center field having to run into the fucking corner of the outfield and get the ball and by the time he gets it that guy's already rounding home.

Yeah, but what about my Ghost Runner? He runs a four-two. Well, that's what's coming next is the fucking Ghost Runner. And the manager's just gonna be able to go to the umpire and be like, Ghost Runner actually just stole second and third base. So we have a guy on third now. That's what's fucking coming next

if we do this golden bat bulls. Yeah, but think about Ghost Runner, that's spooky. Yeah, it's spooky. You're talking about Mr. October. The CGI of it running. That'd be cool. It's goddamn Travis, dude. Knock it off. I love baseball, man.

It's always baseball. Every year, something like this in the offseason. It's like he's talking to his child there, Rich. Yeah. Yeah, knock it off. I still think we have to. I mean, we got a team playing in a minor league park that doesn't even know if their major league park's

going to get built. Well, the Hurricanes. The Hur rip. No, not them. Not them. Not that you're talking about the a's. Yeah. Yeah Geez, did you play baseball deeper? Uh, I didn't tell my sophomore year high school and then I had to decide because if you pitch You can't work out the day before the day after you pitch and so it was like baseball or football. Yeah Yeah, I didn't want to I was like I didn't the minor league seemed like a long process to hopefully get to the bigs and I was like let me take the shorter path before we dive into all of that how many starts do high school pitchers have throughout a season uh probably 10 there's 10 days this guy couldn't lift

10? There was 10 days this guy couldn't lift and he said I ain't fucking doing it. There's no I'm stopping the whole sport. There's 10 days I'm not allowed to lift because I'm gonna pitch the next day. You're a massive. I assume you threw you probably threw some you were a good pitcher I assume. I mean I could throw a little bit. Wow. What is the gas legs?

Yeah, he can throw it. Think how hard he should throw with like it's all comes from your lower body. What's a high? I was much lankier than I was much lankier. So I had more whip. A lot of torque. What's high school pitchers throwing like a good one sophomore?

99. No, I threw 89. I had an 89. That's quick. My sophomore year. Yeah, that's fast. 89. That's hard. Yeah. What is that 14 15 years old yeah 15 yeah and you would have only got stronger obviously look what he changed into now he wasn't

allowed to lift so he would have been able to develop as quickly as he has 10 days of lifting really would have you don't see very many baseball players especially as big as JJ is see but here's another I was also a quarterback at the time, so I thought I was going to go and play quarterback and then I couldn't throw a ball to screen, so I lost my job. No touch. I can get to a quarterback. That is a tough throw. That is a tough throw in this entire thing.

That would make baseball better too if Manfred's thinking. Any guy that became a professional athlete that played high school baseball, have him pitch in a game. You know,, have them pitch in a game. You know, have them actually pitch one at bat. Have JJ have to go pitch for the Houston Astros for one inning for one game throughout the entire year. If we're going to have golden bats, let's have celebrity shots. Sure. Let's let's get let's get JJ in-jay in at bat an extra out maybe in an inning

Maybe the old four out first inning. It's not JJ. Wanda. That's a celebrity guest hitter Let's just have fucking Tyler play first base for the Astros all year I don't know how the Astros are they might get better. You do it say it. Let's just let's do it Do it not anybody good anybody could Your field goal challenge wasn't even a challenge He looked at your Your field goal challenge wasn't even a challenge. He murdered that. That's taller. He looked at your challenge and he said. That's taller.

That's the beard. That's taller. That's the beard, brother. You got the twins, you got Purple Hoser, you got Tall Guy, and he got the beard. And the beard, I'll tell you, I- The Purple Hoser. He's right over there on the side. The kick is, it hit a good thud.

Oh yeah. That thing was like fat, like he hit it so high for how fat he hit that. Like that ball with the way it was rotating should have been one of those facial shots that these kids give it. But like the way he actually kicked up and through it, like gave himself like a height behind it, it was like this guy actually kind of had a, kind of had us a little bit of a stroke there. I mean I would stroke. I was so impressed. I was so impressed. Cause I was, you know, the beard kind of sandbagged a little bit

to it, Jage. I don't know if you know that we're texting leading up to it. And it was cool. I got Tyler's phone number. Yeah. That was so cool. What a world showed up in my Tyler from DP here. Then right into a message. I get, holy shit. So they had been kicking, okay, they'd been kicking all week. And I've been asking him, like, how's he doing? How are you doing? Because we're trying to figure out how much money, what do we want to do, what's it going to be, you know?

And obviously they are in the content business, so I'm wide open for ideas and thoughts on this entire thing. And he goes, I'm 50-50, I'm 50-50. I kicked 10, I made five, I missed five. And then I was like, okay. And then he was like, do we want to do two kicks for a certain amount of money each? I was like, I think we'll do it just one. You're Tyler, dude. Come on.

You know? Like, you're going to make it. Whenever the push comes to sh- I actually say this in the- Perfect is in the name. You're going to make one kick. And he goes, alright. And then as they get there, all the boys are like- He got worse as he went on when he was kicking or whatever. They're like all sandbagbagging me and then I like see him line up both times with a set spot that he got to And I'm like, of course Tyler makes this kick. I mean it was like good form follow through puts it through I mean it was it was a great kick. I was so Impressed by their entire operation. They also had the upside-down word hat. Oh, yeah their entire operation. They also had the upside down word hat. Oh, yeah. Dude upside down on the hat. Some content guy right over the shoulder of I believe

Purple Hoser was there. I believe it was Purple Hoser, one of the twins right over his shoulder. I saw phone and dude hat and I was like great fucking hat actually and then we're live right in the moment and then the dudes had energy. Oh yeah, I brought the juice. Twins are electric. I don't want to donate. That was a great one. It was sweet. I enjoyed it. Jage, when are you going to get out there

and kick for charity? Love to, love to. See you in Atlanta. Yeah, what are you guys? This weekend. See you in Atlanta this weekend. I might be in Pittsburgh for the game. Is that this?

I might be in the Berg. Well, hold on. Speaking of being in the Berg for the game, Darius has a question for you. Hell yeah. Another thing, you're doing big, big Christmas game. Is that this one being burned? Well, hold on. Speaking of being in the bird for the game, Darius has a question for you. Oh, yeah. Another thing you're doing big, big Christmas game. You and was iron, right? I and Eagle Nate Burleson, your CBS guy. How have you been prepping to call that game?

I'm just gonna be a huge audience. You might be with Noah. Yeah, I mean, we've gone into the booth with iron and watched him and Charles Davis do their work and it was incredible I really enjoyed watching they were super helpful for me We're also doing a mock game where we call half a game together Just to kind of get it down But the biggest thing by far is watching games just on TV on Sundays and listening to announcers and hearing what you like what you don't

Like hearing, you know how they described the game. Do you like super high energy? Do you like a little bit more low-key? Do you like more? Analytical information do you like more fan type reactions? So just figuring out all those things and trying to make it flow What's the notebook look like who you pulling from you want to tell us what your goal is to sound like and be in there? I Mean, I think if I sound like somebody else, that would kind of suck, wouldn't it? I mean, I just I'm just going to try and be me. I personally like a little more of a fan side reaction.

Like I kind of want to watch the game like a fan watches the game. And then just every now and then toss in some of my experience and some of the things that I know about the game. But I just I kind of want it to be fun, loose, obviously fun and loose and we're gonna have a great time and I am One of the best in the business. So Nathan it's gonna be great. Mm-hmm. Go for like Tony Romo after 12 coronas on a Sunday So you guys Greg's Greg's phenomenal color Greg's phenomenal I like to Rico Mike Trico play-by-play right true nominal I try is og I feel like yeah

enjoy Joe boys great yeah I feel like I see in college I love Joel clatt yeah he's great with Gus yeah gosh I must die yeah on the Jack Sawyer interception yeah yeah happy here he's okay I think have we heard no if he's okay he's Brian Chris Collins worth obviously he's been doing it for so long. He has his style Charles Davis Charles got good and Joe's got a football. Mm-hmm. I appreciate Darrell moose Johnston Obviously, he's been calling him for what 30 years. Mm-hmm, and he called the XFL too. I think he just calls Gabe Yeah, he's in there. I'm not built for it. I've tried it like no wrestling definitely. Hey, WWE, I have the time of my life so lucky to do that.

Football it's like there's too many jabs. You know, there's too many jabs. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to it cuz when I went when I went and watched those guys in the in the booth, it was the Cardinals Bears game. And just I just love being in the stadium just the energy just Having fans around just being there live and reacting to what's actually happening right in front of you I I love that aspect of it who

Who's gonna remain non-biased in there? It's great question because Teeds we hear what he does every week. Yeah I'm gonna oh my god, it's gonna be fucking terrible. Yeah, don't worry. It. I'm gonna. Oh my God. It's gonna be fucking terrible. Don't worry. It's I'm not an idiot. I'm not an idiot. I mean, I am an idiot, but I'm not going to be an idiot in this situation. Don't worry. Teach gets a sack. He no sells it. Yeah. It's just funny because it's also it's the chief. So like if you talk good about Patrick, my home is pretty much always looking at me. He's getting he's all over Patrick, my homes. And then if I talk good about my brother, like, Oh, of course he's talking good about Patrick Mahomes, like, oh, he's looking at me, he's getting, he's all over Patrick Mahomes. And then if I talk good about my brother, like, oh, of course he's talking good about his brother.

It's like, you know, everybody just calm down. Now, and that's a good thing to take away. Even in wrestling, there's gonna be people that hate you anyways. Yeah, there's gonna be people that hate you, you know, like just because you're gonna call something either against their favorite player. Obviously it's their favorite team. like Joe Buck is hated by a lot because Joe Buck is the

voice of some of the worst moments of these sports fans. He's the voice of it. He's the one that has to deliver what is happening to their fans. So it's like you're gonna be hated, like that is gonna happen, but I want to let you know we can't wait to hear your style brother. We think you're gonna be great at it. I want to legit, I think you gonna do a fantastic job in there, especially cuz you want to This is like dress. I'm very much looking forward to it. Yeah, I'm really excited about it and let the world know TJ's your brother Mm-hmm. It's good for the NFL that we got families that are dominant now. I Speaking of family my daughter speaking learning talking each okay, so

So this is like convo cues little cards here no no for a nice give-and-take yeah it is pretty and instead of a hashtag ask Jade segment I decided to bring these in and we'll ask some of these questions to Jade perfect talking about basic questions but I think there is a chance for some good answers what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna shuffle through I just need you to say stop this isn't a nose thing I literally don't know what a lot of these are All right Gage what would you bring on a camping trip? Good question

Okay, that's it one answer all right, okay, let's do it so just fire with start don't need anything else Don't he fucking close don't have food don't need a tent. Why Locking him. Don't need anything. How's he starting the firewood? Well, he's rubbing it against another stick. Yeah, AJ. Two rocks. Yeah. I wasn't ready for the game. I wasn't ready for the game. I thought it was like a quick action. I thought it was like a how fast can you answer? I will say if my daughter Mackenzie gives that answer, I'll be so pumped. So that answer would be a phenomenal answer. AJ, how about you? What are you bringing on a camping trip pal? I'm bringing the little bear grill situation lead so I can start a fire. Oh

When deal I thought you're talking about the survival straw tone. How many of those do you have? Oh, I have I've started buying them like ten years ago on Amazon Prime Day. So Ten ish it's not a bad thing to have a little bit more of now. So you drink your pee Is that why if I just your pee but anything really that's liquid apparently have you ever used it? Yeah, I have a couple of them. I haven't used it though. I have not either turn I have one I think it was gifted to me by tone whenever he was addicted to buying these things. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah I think turned me on to it to be honest and I I just you know like anything else I ran away with it

But no Fox say hi. I have used it. I haven't used it outdoors I used it in a glass at home and great so what is for like your own? Wait you drank your own urine? No no no water But did you like make it not walk good waters? No toilet water. I was ice it was cold Just needed a drink like toilet water to see's even worse. Yeah, just needed a strong I don't want this zany straw. Yeah, no, no, no, I don't want the little bendable and definitely don't want the paper one No, no, definitely don't want I need a straw there for my drink Let me go ahead and get bust open a survival straw crack open anybody on this show ever drink your AJ

It's a thing but no, it's a thing that he started. It's always me. To be clear. Just to test it like I mean a drop like. So Jade you've drank your own piss. Sweet. What is it? No I haven't I'm curious. What other fluids you drank? I figured out of all eight guys your guy somebody had to. You put that through the life straw as well digs big frothy load We had this conversation at the American Central Championship on a back deck with people who do participate in this entire thing. And AJ's brain was working at maximum capacity. It was.

That is exactly what I just said. Do you remember that conversation? Oh, yeah. He started asking me how you mix it and what is the ratio of se know semen to urine? I always have follow-ups. I have a lot of These people are healthy all right you tell us what he wanted they were very healthy more healthy than I would have been shocked and very

Very very jacked very jacked. I, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, often actually and so well that the neighbors swim out there and get the dog out of the water and drag it back to land like they're a lifeguard saving somebody's soul. And then there's a situation. Yeah and he says those guys told me to like he's eight years old but you know a little bit gullible that guy he's but he is jock. Good laugh. Yeah good laugh. He is jock. He threw us right under the butt. He sure did. He threw us us right under the butt. Maybe. To the neighbor. I felt like I was back in high school. He was a phenomenal athlete. So jocks. Head stands.

Alright, Judge. Pop. We already kind of talked about this one. Got to redo it. Another campfire one? Pop. Where's Dream House? We already did that. If you had wings, where would you fly, Judge? Pop. It was Dreamhouse, Mary did that.

If you had wings, where would you fly, Judge? Oh. Wow. Good question. Go to Burnley match this weekend. Hell yeah. That's a commitment of this owner for that Burnley squad. Nice.

Are we going to get back into the league? Yeah. If you had wings, that's where you'd fly. This last week was a very good week, man. We had three matches in one week. We won them all and we didn't give up a goal. We've only given up six goals in 18 games this year. It's a record in the history of the championship.

Best defensive record so far in the history of the championship. Oh, yeah. Scott Parker is a good gaffer you got there, JJ. Raise it. Raise it. Scoot Parker? Raise it. All right. Scoot Parker. Raise it. Right. And that there.

Up the Clarence. Which is awesome. I was like, what is that? Raise it up. Raise it up. I saw it going, you know, I saw it going up there up the Clarence because Clarence are a flag, right? It's a jug. What's that? It's a jug. What's that? Yeah jug No, thank you. Thank British. Oh color the Clarets. Oh, you know, what are we up? We're so we're chugging out a bucket. Yeah Is that the up the Clarets it's true. Oh, we do chug we do chug over there. Yes. Yeah, we do

I love nothing AJ is chugging, but we do To his Afterwards I'd be open. I'd be open if I ever did drink pee or anything else, but no, I'll just you know Just download it info always What's the next thing you want to try that you've heard of but you haven't tried yet infrared do it AJ good question That I've heard of I don't know one of those one of those weird jungle drugs that change your brain. Maybe The toad thing or I was what's that toad one in there toad? Yeah, I don't want some of them are really scary. So I don't know. I don't know adrenochrome physics Yeah, I don't think that's the one seems to help you not's the Assumed that's the one that he would pick. No, he was talking he was talking out in the the jungles

I think is what he said which I mean where? Where do you think you get it? I? Don't know where do you comment? Have you ever done the tent thing that I saw in billions the paint like the Sweat lodge. Yeah, it's what L the sweat lodge yeah is that i was that looks that was scary too no i think that's just i don't know you go in sober and you sweat it out like it it looks brutal like it'd be tough oh i always thought that they did something in the tent i thought it was you're sweated out and there's like something activity probably so that docu series

that's coming out about erin enigma uh december 17th on Netflix, I think they go down and do an ayahuasca thing Remember we saw Jordan poyers. Yep. It looked just like he had a video of whenever he went down there and did it and You say there's a sweat tent. I've never heard of that. It was a sweat like teepee Yeah, they went into and I'll tell you I don't know if I'm mentally tough enough for any of the trip all the way down I mean long time long time down there, right and then the hot they're just sweating through that I don't know but there you're right. There are people that like sign up for this on a daily basis I guess is does that the same effect as like cold does on your body Is it the same one of those mental toughness things that everybody's a part of Gary Brecker, right?

Yeah, is it part of that age or jay jimmy? don't know I don't know jade I don't know more than me thank you actually no I just thought I mean that's my do all the cold hot all that stuff yeah infrared sauna too yeah I got a regular sauna no regular sauna is better for dementia right a queue yeah a lot of health benefits like steams but red light red light the rocks pour the water on yeah yeah those are good yeah yeah yeah yeah I saw it that's good you can use the red light red light the rocks pour the water on yeah, yeah, those are good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I saw it That's good. You use the red light on your face. Don't you a queue all the time?

Yeah, you still do you know the look like an asshole when you I got though I got the whole panel back at the house I have little ones I strapped to my knee like little small ones that can strap around my knee Do you know what's that called? That's like what's the name of that thing? It's got like three Yeah, I can't think of the name But yeah, I usually put it on here when I'm when I wash the first hour really Yeah, you would you walk into like a public place like an airport never no never I've never done it outside of the house or like a like a Thunderdome or something like that

You would do it with one right in your face. I would do the Thunderdome Yeah, I would do it there the face one or then you do a face one, too No, I don't know they have big panels and stuff. I mean, those things aren't cheap. It's bright too. This guy was getting a fucking spotlight on his face that was red. I tried it and I got a headache.

And that wasn't why you got a headache. It's good doing the winter, right? That was why I got a headache. No, you didn't have enough water or salt for the day. That's what it was. I don't get headaches. It was the first time I ever got a headache. It wasn't the red light.

It's because you had me staring at the fucking sun. You literally did this. I don't get headaches. I don't believe it You're like this you grab you go nice. I got a headache. Yeah I mean you had over two seconds. Yeah, believe in I don't believe that Which is on coal that's just like kind of mine like Taylor Swift with jet lag like the mindset yeah, I understand that headaches happen and I'm just gonna continue not to believe in them so that they just stay away from me because boy they sound terrible Yeah, and there has been a couple times like where you get a little bit of a pain above your eye here And it's like this is you just knock it out though. This is terrible. How does she do?

It goes right out My I haven't tried that yet It goes right out. Oh my god. I haven't tried that yet. It goes right out. I know. Alright, Jage. Thanks for hanging out, bud. Thanks for doing the combo cues too. You really hit it out of the park on the second one.

First one, still left to be desired. There is Akeesh Shipley with his spotlight on his face. That's what it looked like here at the Thunderdome all of last year. Nice locker room at the Thunderdome. Oh yeah. Thanks, Jage. I can't express how much better Akeesh looks this season. So we're talking about this morning. He's 275 right now. You know. Back in the trenches. How low did you go Akush? Like 245, 250. And we could see it too like you know. Yeah. Like and we're

trying to be as supportive as possible because he was on his journey to fitness. Loving it. We appreciate it. How did did your body feel like your joints? I'm very curious like better our guys our size. Yeah better than ever better Yeah, like when I was 245 250 I ran a half marathon and felt completely fine. Now if I try to do that right now Problematic it'd be problem. So why'd you come back up? Well, see I enjoy dots pretzels and I you know, my kids leave some chicken nuggets on their plate at dinner I usually finish them mac and cheese a couple ice cold beers He was meal prepping like real hard back like I think that's like a full on there was a full commitment You do that. I saw you if you a meal prepper. No

No, I used to do stuff like that But the more that I've gone like I've tried to lose I was I was an idiot I was a psycho for a while like doing all the stuff exactly to the right and so now I'm Much more loose with things and just trying I look at nutrition over the course of the week as opposed to a course of the day So as long as I'm on track for my entire week I'm okay If I have a cheat meal here if I lose it a little bit there I just get back on track over the course of the week. Okay, so one cheat meal a week two cheat meals a week

Generally, yeah like legit ones. Yeah, like dinner I Love breakfast food breakfast is my favorite food by far So if I can I prefer bread last night what you do you were about to say and I touch you last night We're at we went to right beforeicked, we went to Texas Roadhouse. Oh yeah, you posted a picture. After, sorry, yeah. I don't know how many people were doing Wicked

and Texas Roadhouse together, but we were. It was phenomenal. Hey, the country fried steak there is very, very good. And then obviously the chilled salad is what really makes the difference. When the plate comes out ice cold and the lettuce is chilled and then they have like that Italian vinaigrette house

Love it. Absolutely then the butter Man the rolls now, what does that meet right there? What does that mean? Prime rib? Okay? Got it. Yeah I could eat all right now again. So good just consistent everybody's taking me on her tweeting at me like you got to put hashtag ad on here. It's not an ad. I just I just freaking loved it man It's just phenomenal. We went to a steakhouse on Friday night down in College Station real nice place I walked in there with two styrofoam cups that I got from the previous store and Like as soon as we get there, they were very kind very quickly They knew who we where we were headed and who we were and everything.

As soon as I walk in with this cup, had a little, little sweet thing, some vitamins in there, you know. So I walk in and the guy goes, I will take your cup. And I said, no, you won't. And then we just like continued to walk right in. I knew that the person, I felt so bad because it was such a nice place. As we were walking, I didn't know where we were walking into. Then as soon as we take like four steps into the restaurant, it's like, oh, this is like white tablecloth. This is one of the nicest places I've ever had or been into in my entire life. And obviously we go to a place so I chuck it as quickly as possible. Like I'm so, you know, trying to make an ass out of myself too much more here. But then I looked at the menu.

here but then I looked at the menu and it was just like a much nicer much more expensive wagyu having Texas Roadhouse I mean you're talking about what was uh what was with some butter options uh country fried steak ordered that had that in there obviously there was some prime rib they had some uh they had some this wagyu thing that was just like but it felt like I was like oh this is Texas Road I'm out of Texas Roadhouse that is just oh we but it felt like I was like, oh, this is a Texas Roadhouse. I'm at a Texas Roadhouse that is just, oh, we're in Texas. Oh, I'm at a Texas Steakhouse. I think what Texas Roadhouse has done with Texas Steakhouse, phenomenal job.

I've been going through it my whole life. Will never stop. I'm happy to hear that you do the same damn thing. I love it. They used to be reckless with the peanuts. Loved it. Loved it. What do you mean reckless?

You can throw them on the ground. Yes. You can throw the shells on the ground. It's cool. It was reckless. Peanut, I mean, for sure it was peanut allergies, but there was nothing better than taking two handfuls of peanuts, eating one of them, and be like,

you know what, I'm gonna throw the rest of these on the ground and smash them. It was awesome. The bucket. That's why you went. That's why you went there. So they don't do that anymore? No, because I didn't even think about the peanut allergies

that are potentially. I didn't get it, why? But the servers, walking. Yeah, that too. Maybe trying to get a guy. Pean servers, walking. That too. That too. Maybe trying to get a guy. Peanuts on wood. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's like a banana peel, actually. In this new America, we're bringing back the peanuts on the ground. If you've got a peanut allergy, don't go. OK? Well. Boom.

Door down. I think I had to wear cleats in there. I think it did get to come out. Yep. I think that's what started happening. I believe my family was actually at a Texas Redhouse for a birthday like near the end of The peanut situation and saw somebody. Yeah, I think it was like an eight drinker Just like a movie like turn the corner

Pile of peanuts wasn't ours could have been certainly could have been wasn't ours. Thank God encouraged Yeah, I but I'm not the I think that's they didn't know yeah, of course, but it's like you weren't a bad guy I wasn't a bad guy. No in two peanuts and being like, you know what fuck it I got ten minutes until my food's gonna get here I'm gonna throw the rest of these peanuts on the ground and I'm gonna smash them all this created a tripping hazard for some guests Okay, which I think is potentially what they're talking about causing Texas Roadhouse to receive multiple lawsuits Oh, yeah, I didn even think about the customers slipping. Turning the corner.

Oh my God! Spine, spine. But also there's peanuts were also dangerous for those with allergies, you know? And although the chain often placed warning signs outside of its restaurant, some people just didn't get the hint that they were walking into a peanut zoo. There's gonna be crushed crushed peanuts, there's going to be fresh peanuts, there's going to

be old peanuts, there's going to be new peanuts everywhere. Texan Roadhouse was like, we don't care. I was on an airplane one time and he said nobody was allowed to open any snacks. Don't open any snacks. We just found out somebody has a peanut allergy on here. It's very devastating. I was like, God damn, the whole plane? I can't even, could you imagine having that?

That would suck her so bad. Proud of the bath tub. Proud of the bath tub, man. I was gonna say, what was it? Smell it? That's basically what they were implying. Yeah, it gets in the air for some people. Kids deal with it, yeah, believe me.

Kids, yeah, they're different type of schools. Shit. No snacks on October. My son's school sent a message saying, you can't, your kids shouldn't eat peanut butter before coming to school, because they had a kid that it was that Like I was like wait a second. We can't eat it himself. It was nuts. Yeah, it was that scary that plane

There's uh, that was alarming cuz boy I had a great Great trail dick. I picked it out from the store. Yeah On the plane. I felt so smart forward thinking thinking about about future me. I'm going to stop by over here, grab this beautiful bag of trail mix. I mean, you had enough sweetness in there, what you need. Sure. And then enough salty stuff in there. And then there were certainly some peanut M&Ms in there and peanuts themselves. How long ago was this? I mean, commercial flight. This is like 15 years ago, Pat McAfee. Amen. Hopefully never again. But anyways, I was bummed out and then I was scared to death that it made me, a child of mine,

You didn't put them in your bag and eat them out of your bag or anything? No, I actually put them away. I was like, I'll be a leader on here, OK? They didn't let me sit on the exit row, but I will be a leader on this flight. And I put them away. I did.

But I had a lot of questions, obviously. And the flight attendant had all of a sudden become an expert on this matter. And they did. They told me Yeah, sometimes he gets in the air and since you know an airplane circulated air It's all the same air could hate anybody at any time So we're just asking people not to because you never know when you guys sit on the jet who?

Who is what role is that if somebody get up too often does somebody eat too much to somebody sleep loud? What do we got Fox is a booze bag every time he gets on he makes himself like four drinks Same with Ty. Ty has to do it to get through the flight. I think that is really the only big takeaway is. Gumpy was pulled from speaker control, but then he was placed back on speaker control. So I think, yeah, everybody's kind of,

we kind of just all kind of get in where we fit in. I still only want to ever take a shit on the flight. No, remember, talk. Talk, talk. First flight remember, talk first flight. Talk's first ride. Bro, I felt bad. Piece of shit. Nice bathroom back here.

I didn't know there was going to be so much privacy. All right. What about you, Jay? You struggle? You struggle with the flight style? No, not so much anymore because we've done it so often. But I just like, there were a couple times there when like early on When we were flying to like New York, especially

Every single weekend and be like we're taking off and it's just like, you know, the the pilots would be like Hey, we got real bad weather in New York So just kind of brace for that strap in and it's just the turbulence delivered and it always delivered always They were like Joe DiNardo with their predict. Yeah legit So but anymore not so once we got the bigger planes like you don't have to you worry about that as much legitimately How about that that one plane was we'll never get back on it, darlin The one up in oh Play never again that was insane right there. We had to find another plane in a in like a very quick we got off plane said we are never getting back on that plane ever. Tony

actually kissed the floor when we landed. He did the Pope the Pope thing kiss the ground whenever we got there. What happened? We don't know who was in charge of said plane yeah I mean we could see who it was but we don't know how that person was in it. Corpse. It was very breezy it was a very very windy windy windy windy. Northeast is always very windy you fly near the coast to always gonna catch You know something going in so there's always gonna be shit up there But as we're taking off almost driving off runway as taking off so that automatically starts a little anxiety You know like we can't even get down a runway the runway is very very large

So we're almost going off runway that we we get up in the sky, and then we come in for landing and obviously this guy wants to beat the hell out of the ground. You know, so bang. We're going through the ground. Yeah, and his hands, like he looks nervous up there, you know, like Mike McDaniel with that thing that got blown. But people were saying it looks like he was shivering. So we literally, that's the first time ever

we looked, I looked at the pilots and go, never again. Thank you. And got off the plane and we never stepped foot back I would have stayed in Connecticut for a week No, they're getting back on that particular plane, but I don't do well with planes either I don't and I'm on them a lot and every single time it's like hey Let's fucking do it every single time and then gump is always ha ha lad Use it go and it's a it's good vibe

I also don't appreciate like we'll get the pilots every once in a while who like all the sudden will that will change like 6,000 feet in elevation it feels like you're literally just nose down I felt that one a little bit back there, huh? Okay. Well now we're good now That was an issue a lot of these pilots. Yeah, we're joe You know, we are zany, you know, so trying to impress us We're pulling fucking 10 G's on takeoff to get up. Yeah, thousand feet. It's like hey, we don't This is not playtime This is a Cadillac just roll this sucker nice Yeah, and I don't know how this is happening either. This plane is way too big

Why are we flying at 40,000 feet at this speed? I have no idea but let's just make sure we don't get any and then every pilot breaks down to me like Well turbulence is actually a good thing because that means that the wind is actually catching your plane And so whenever you feel turbulence, you should be more comfortable than uncomfortable It's like well, I want to let you know when I'm popping out of my seat. Yeah, I've never been more uncomfortable in my life I've recorded so many videos for my wife and daughter and family and everybody just because of like some turbulence. All right.

This might be it. I love you guys. And then it's smoothed out. It's turned that off. Okay. We're good. So many, probably 10 of those. So that's every week whenever we're working.

It's great time. Thanks for bringing it up, JJ. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest, would you? Are you wearing that combo? Where are we going to go with that? You're a first-person? whenever we're working. It's a great time. Thanks for bringing it up, JJ. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest, would you, are you in that conversation? Where are we gonna go with that? You're a first ballot Hall of Famer. You'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

You're what, the third member of the Bull Ring of Honor? Three time defense player of the year. I mean, are you in, you're in that, right? You're in that conversation forever. That's sweet. Definitely. I was just gonna call you the greatest of all time But then I didn't want to drop myself into that

My good Tom that it's all it's all about your position, but you want to hold sport Oh my position though, Reggie white Reggie white Reggie white mr. Defense Rest in peace out of doubt Reggie white See in there No Reggie white well teach can't win a defense player of the year for the fucking life of homes that guy definitely Did he purposely not talk on our knocks? Yeah, what's that all about? It definitely doesn't like it he doesn't he doesn't love any of that stuff I think at me at some point they're gonna make him you have to at some point

But he certainly avoids all that stuff at all costs. Did you watch? But he certainly avoids all that stuff at all costs. Did you watch? No, I will. I will watch at some point. What do I need to see? Give me the highlights. How Tomlin runs a room? I know you probably have heard, you've been in the room?

Yeah, it's awesome. He's the best. It is awesome. And they actually have how Zach Taylor runs his room in Cincinnati and they're playing each other. you see they literally it's fucking they did really really good and then they take you into an offensive line room that I don't think has really been been seen before this is assistant offensive line coach what's his name yeah I don't all right sweet this is from hard knocks

last night with the Cleveland Browns in the offensive line room. Protect the game quarterback, okay? Everybody wants to sack the fucking quarterback. That's what the defense wants to do. We're going to take pride in protecting the quarterback. No one fucks with the chief. Nobody. Now, chief, this is how you can help us. Get through your reads and get the fucking ball out, right?

You do a really good job with that. It's impressive. Set the protections the right way. When you got a flip or a hit, be on your shit. Be on your shit. Okay? Whatever you say, we're going to do. I promise you.

Okay? You guys back this fucker up. You fight your asses off. You fight your asses off. We're not going to fucking Denver to go skiing. We're going to win the fucking game on Monday Night Football in front of the fucking world. We're on Thursday Night Football last week. We balled out.

We're going to Monday Night Football this week to ball the fuck out. Okay? We are pros. This is what we fucking do. This is our choice. This is our life. This is every minute of our day. Right now. Lock it in. Go to Denver. Pitch we fucking do. This is our choice. This is our life. This is every minute of our day, right now. Lock it in, go to Denver, pitch a fucking fit.

Pitch a fit, okay? 99's in the A.F., fuck him up! That's you, JJ. We're toe to toe with really good teams this year. And the harder we play, the better results we've had. That's the fucking truth. Making a grimy fight back down to nobody nobody

Okay, nobody they were going to lose to the Denver Broncos AQ what are your thoughts on that? Is that a standard offensive line? Room it is I mean the best part about the offensive line rooms is that exact moment right there is the fact that the assistant O line coach gets his opportunity. That's his Super Bowl right? Each week. Each week. That's he's doing the presentation. O line, assistant O line coach, they get together, they come up with a game plan. They typically, the O line coach goes down through all the notes. Hey, here's the keys to the game. Here's this, here's this, here's this. Okay. Turn it over to so and so. So and so is the assistant O line

coach and that's his that's his presentation So that if he ever does get his own room, that's it. It's pretty cool. Roy is an intense guy Yeah, I appreciate the intensity and I appreciated the way he was delivering his message and I appreciate the fact that it felt like everybody Was listening. Yeah, I also liked that Jamis was in there I love how you talk to the chief chief. Hey, you sent that shit, get the ball out, you gotta flip it, flip it, we gonna do what the fuck you say do. The best part.

Be on your shit though, he told him. Like we need you to be fucking knowing what you're doing. Okay, that would definitely help us out a lot. When he said get the ball out, that's every offensive lineman, like every lineman in there was like, hell yeah, get the ball out. Like stop fucking jerking the ball off back there, get the ball out.

Are the quarterbacks always in that meeting? So, I mean it looks like I saw base up on the board so that I'm assuming they were going over like base protection That's your typical Wednesday. So yeah quarterbacks gonna be involved in that meeting speaking of being on the board change Did you see the picture that uh hit the area from Detroit Lions all their code words? Oh How often our teams gonna try to even start learning those? And then now, because they're out there, MCDC knows they're out there. Other teams know that MCDC knows that they're out there.

They're definitely gonna change them, right? Well, or are they not gonna change, or are they gonna make words mean something different? It's like, I think this information is obviously vital to some humans somewhere, but I think actual outcome of game or playing, do you think it'll change anything in this particular game tomorrow night?

Well, I mean, truthfully, if you have any good coaching staff, scouting department, et cetera, at all, you would already have 70 to 75% of those words. Like you should already know that from watching film, from watching key copies, from listening to the TV copies. So a lot of that shouldn't be a surprise. It should be more of a confirmation for a lot of teams. So I don't think it's anything groundbreaking. It's not like they're going to lose a game simply because of this. Like I said, it's

more concerning if a team didn't have any of these than if a team is sitting and if it seems sitting there like, Oh my God, we finally got it, then your Scott department sucks. All right. We finally got the, we got the words on the lions. It's like, well, Jared Goff's been screaming them into a damn mic all season long. Foxy, how's everybody reacting in Detroit about this? Jameer Gibbs, hell of a football player. Yeah. Everyone was freaking out at first, but at the end of the day, you know how MC DC is they're going to execute and you got to stop them. And even if you know the plays, it's going to be tough to stop no matter what best offense

in football. So I don't think anyone's worried about it. I know MC DC is not worried about it. I love how he handled it because he publicly backed his dude. Like he publicly was like, this is not a big deal, but I mean had to have ripped him privately. It was like that's still, it's still is something where you're like, come on, come on buddy. Did you think at all? Did you, did you even, it's a hilarious background.

That's not like a little bit like they might be able to edit. Very clear. That is. Yeah. As somebody who potentially had a background situation in a football stadium happen with a picture and post it, I can see how this could happen, you know, just got to be a little bit more careful. Sure. Got to be a little more careful. Now with that being said, it might end up helping them, because if

people spend time trying to learn all this and then they can't remember, are they wasting time doing something else? It's like the Michigan thing, you know, it's funny that's happening with the Lions with Michigan being it. Like if you have a Connor Stallion who can potentially start putting why the code words or what the code words are, you know, but then you can even switch those. Well, they're using geography for these particular sets. So if you hear something,

but all it takes is one word to invert those things. Yeah, you might, I mean, as a defense, it may be like one thing that you may get, maybe two that you maybe jump a player concept, but they change those code words every week, sometimes between quarters, quarterbacks have had their code words with the receivers or whatnot.

And there's some things that, shit, I'm sure Brady probably did for 20 years, probably saying the same shit protection-wise, you know you hear LA or New York, like it's not like, you know, rocket science. So at the end of the day, you gotta execute. And if you're out there trying to figure, okay, and some quality control guys, some guys that usually get up there and have a book and you know you listen to

the tv copy you hear certain things you definitely keep in your back pocket but i mean you got it you got to execute you got to communicate do your job and aren't you if you do catch on to something you're trying to make sure that they don't find out that you're catching on either right like during covid years i think that was a big like people said they could hear ben rothisberger telling the wide receiver what route to run and corners were just like I'm going to act like I didn't hear you Is that real right now? It's interesting like information, too much information and then what's going a different way I remember Peyton were playing the Raiders I think and

It's the end of the game, four minute drill type situation. And Peyton makes a check at the line or whatever. D Lyman was with the Colts before. So he knew exactly what was supposed to happen. So he starts screaming. And Peyton's like less than a foot away from him. He's D Lyman. He starts pointing and screaming.

It's going right here. They're going this way. They're going this way. So Peyton can hear him obviously doing that. And he's like, yeah, the guy was right. So he just doesn't hand it off to, I think Dominic Rhodes was our running back to time, pulls it from him without,

Dom, he just continues to run it. Their entire defense collapsed on the same, and Peyton's just doing his little scamper down the left side. I think he even slid, I don't even think he scored or whatever. And afterwards, obviously him and Jeff, they all told the story about like,

hey, the guy fucking did know though. Like something we should we should think about in this entire thing but uh, the guy told Peyton that he knew so it was like Just wait like three seconds. Yeah hold those cards. Hey Johnson just said about Roquon, you know him calling out plays We all know remember that clip with um cam cam cam and I think it was clay clay Matthews who's like, oh, okay, you think you got this shit Okay, i got something for you So yeah, you you definitely pick up on certain things but i mean you got it at the end of the day You still got to execute do your job. Yeah, and that's football baby and jade's we appreciate you joining us man We'll talk to you next week

Yeah, have a great one guys appreciate you're not on cbs this week. You said you're going next week. You're going to pittsburgh Yeah, i'm going to pitt to Pittsburgh this week for the Steelers game next weekend. I'll be in Detroit for CBS. Let's do a little. Yeah. Practice that before you go. You see?

My grandma went to a game two weeks ago and I was asking her how was the game, grandma? And she was like, I'm so proud of myself, JJ. I twirled the towel so much better than you did. Oh, yeah. I got bodied by grandma. Yeah. And you're getting another opportunity here this weekend.

That's a damn shame. And it's going to be on Hard Knocks. I'll make you guys proud. Oh. It's going to be on Hard Knocks. It's going to be an 8K. You're going to have a seg, dude. It's going to be slow mo.

Oh my God. When Big Brother comes to town, TJ always has time to take a few notes. Yeah. The Hard Knocks people are great. Hard Knocks people are great. They do a really good job. But we said we're gonna bypass that Yeah, they're all looking at you too

Okay, he's like change Twirl twirl watch the Brett Michaels video. He'll show you. Yep. Yep. That is good idea Maybe you can even do a little bit get those Sarah's chocolates Sarah's yeah, yeah, sir. He's I still blows my mind. That's how it's pronounced. Get those Sarah's chocolates. Sarah's, yeah. Cerise. Still blows my mind that's how it's pronounced. Cerise. I call it sorry's. Am I right?

Nailed it. No, you're not, Jage. You're not right at all. I don't know. They're so good. They're delicious. They're special. They sense them.

Yeah, I have received a lot of them since then. They're very good. Giant Eagle. They're very nice people. Giant Eagle actually sent us a bunch of Sarah's candy. Did very good son of a giant eagle very nice people John Eagle actually sent us a bunch of Sarah's candy did you eat Sarah's grown up in moon oh yeah you hate Joe That's Hall of Fame level. That's what you're chasing. That's a boom too. Here we go. Yeah, he's a musician. Here we go Steelers. Here we go.

Boom, boom. Here we go Steelers. Oh man, that's a full body guy. Boom, boom. That's what he's saying. We don't want to run it just in case we'll get strike because that is a obviously incredible song by Brad. Great pain job.

He's a big Steelers fan. We appreciate that. Maybe you and Brett and Tej talk about performing under pressure for Hard Knocks, AFC North. That'd be big stylish fan. We appreciate that. Maybe you and Brett and Teage talk about performing under pressure for Hard Knocks, AFC North. That'd be a good episode. It would be. I'll be looking forward to that next Tuesday. Thank you for doing that, Jage.

Thank you for entertaining all of us sports fans. We appreciate you, brother. I appreciate you guys. You have a wonderful day. Be a friend, tell a friend. Something nice. Something nice. What the hell is that?

You know what it is. Thumbs up, bro. Thumbs up. What happened to Dano? Yeah. I think you can, like, you clappers. What the hell is that? You know what it is. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. Yeah I think you can like you clap. What the hell. If you clap there might be a balloon situation. Ah They're always watching. They're always reacting. It is weird, huh? I don't like that. I don't like that. We survived yesterday though Yes, we did. Thank god. And you know what? the plan Survived today too

Not just survive, thrive. Remember, Coach Tomlin. So are you fucking surviving or thriving? Yesterday we were told. We'd be lucky to survive. But since we did, let's thrive. Real quick, Connor, how's Coach doing? Boston, how's your coach doing?

Coach Sacco, five and two since Coach Sacco took over. Huge overtime. We were over the Red Wings yesterday. Have we found photos of you playing for coach Sacco? No, we did. We did look through the The the bank of photos we have we did not find any but there are some photos of me and little Joe real Not fake I'm telling you brother me there are photos of me and little Joe Sacco But there's nothing with me and big Joe Sackle. He always missed the team photo day

because he was working on being a better coach. Yeah, and I guess I was told actually big Joe Sackle was helping every team in the youth league. He wasn't just helping ours. So, little update, maybe he wasn't my coach. He was our coach. He was our coach as a town. Even better, what a guy. A little update maybe he wasn't my code Code does the town Even better what a guy I mean that's cool shackle. He wants to help everybody, you know

Right now. Yeah, bingo five and two one of those losses to who Pittsburgh penguins because he has so much respect for city said look The movie knows they need this one more than we do boys Let's take their foot off the gas pedal a little here in the third let them get ahead and then we'll get back to our winning Waste I don't like that your guys fans bought the tickets in the PPG pants arena That didn't show up because you're making our arena look empty. No, just like the Florida Panthers fans did last night That's right. They bought a bunch of tickets down near the glass decided not to travel So now we got empty seats and it's not us It's the way team which I don't like at all which you should be worried is that Fenway Sports Group sees that and they're like Yep, okay, let's send this thing to the fucking gutter people

Ship some of these guys out and then let's reset this thing in five years. That's okay Yeah, that's what they did with the Red Sox Where you guys at? You guys go once're getting Juan Soto, bitch. We already got our all this Chapman. I don't know how he celebrated if he did the same way as he did with his uh when he signed his Pittsburgh deal, but I do know Soto's coming to town. Okay, so Soto is the he is the cock of the walker. Yes he is. Would he be a golden batter? Yes. He'd be he's going to be our golden batter. Oh for the Boston Red Sox. Yes. He is I would like Manford to reconsider don't listen to what all the baseball people are saying. He will he's dipshit

So he'll definitely reconsider. All right, we appreciate you ladies. You have a JJ watt I you don't think the gold bat gold ball Gold entry Oh gold. They should make gold ball a separate one where that's two home runs in one bingo It's like a ball bat one strikeouts. We're like if you hit a home run. Oh if you strike out, it's three outs Yeah, three point contest. So you have to lead off every inning I guess with you have to leave no it goes into the next inning when you come up next inning You already start with two outs carryover dude there's a gold glove and like it's attached to a fishnet and you get it out in like the In the outfield and you can use it to rob

Yeah, that's two. What if it what if for the golden a bet tie? What? Cleats golden cleats you bring the bases to halfway down the baseline. Yes, so you're just running just a halfway down the baseline. Yes. And then you're just running. So I'm thinking one outfielder or maybe in like on the defense, is that what it would be called? Yes, yeah. You got it.

One of them gets to wear a gold glove. And if they're the one who gets the out, then it is three outs. So that glove though has to be presented. There has to be a decision. It's like a spotlight too. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop to who gets the golden glove. Oh, it's the center fielder. Okay. Run the global glove out. If that is a catch, it's three outs. I think that's a good idea. That's not a bad idea. I think it adds to the gold. Yeah, I think it's a good idea.

Let's do it all. Let's do it all. Hear this Rob. Let's do it all. Everything you want to do. Let's just do it. Why not? Let's just do it all grow the game Exactly, and then next you know what we should do for like the NFL. Let's play with three footballs. If I was just fine Yeah, so it's baseball. Yeah, all right So it's baseball Thank you for proving my point. You know, we don't fucking need to do any of this bullshit. We change kickoff rule Launch you guys. How's that going? You love that? Don't you? Yeah, everyone loves it Don't they they should dismantle the competition committee? Oh Let's just get like let's just play football the way it was meant to be played. How's that go watch NFL films 1960s version?

Closed lined across the middle that John Runyon clip. We all loved it. Of him jumping over a pile. Yeah. Every time he does the thing it was, I mean we do all remember watching that going into a commercial break. Wow these football guys. They're going. I do think it is potentially a part of the stigma of everybody thinking football people are stupid because back in the day Yeah Football players were doing to themselves you would think wow these guys are willing to literally Throw all caution to the wind 50 straight times some of these defenders. Yeah this play right here What are you doing? I'm gonna get you look at the yes cleaning up the pile You can't stand around a pile man. You gotta teach the kids

Loses his home and running just gets up and walks it off. Yeah, we work Don't be standing around a pile loses his home and running just gets up and walks it off. Yeah, we work Don't be standing around piles It's awesome. Yeah, I could wear him. Yeah, he's anybody hit run you well look at him. Look at him Look at him. He was so big so big. I mean look how big he is. She's We're we're running his dims. Can we get John Runyon's? 7 3 30 Imagine being on the opposite end of a lawn dart from 6 7 Dims. Can we get John Runyon's? I think it's 67330. Oh my God. Imagine being on the opposite end of a lawn dart from 67330.

Runyon. What a... And now he's the guy that's deciding. I love it. Hey Foxy, there's Hank Fraley right there. That's Hank Fraley. Yeah, that was Hank Fraley. He was 67330 listed. And it looks like he stayed in good shape But six seven what year he get out I played against him what year did he get out? Did he do that to you any of those?

What happened I learned quick? Yeah, don't stand around a pile butter. That's He was done. He was tired. He doesn't that's what you have two years with him Three I think I don't know where he was at the time was he in Philly the whole time Yeah, he played against Eagles and you didn't play against the Eagles. You got better at that game. Yeah, because remember you weren't fast enough. Yeah. Runyon was done at that point. He went out and they brought Jason Peters in.

They did all right for about 20 years. It felt good. Yeah, you're right. What a perfect replacement in that particular role. Did you and John Runyon have any? Did you get any? Not to that recall. Not to that recall.

He may have. Maybe that's why. That's probably why. Who rattled your brain, made it smush the most? Who made you a rock for brain guy? I don't know specifics as much as like, there's always like different fullbacks had different, it wasn't always the biggest guys, whatever.

Some guys had weird leverage in where you would hit them to where it just caught you weird. What do you mean? Like it would hit you in a weird spot in your chin or whatever. And you start talking to your buddies, other guys playing live. Hey, man, like this fullback, like, he's trying to like ding you every single play. I was like, yeah, and you you take solace and no, no, it's not just me.

Like this guy's hitting everybody. So some guys have weird heights and leverage to where they can just they do it. And then there's sometimes there's some huge dudes that aren't that bad to take on and some small guys that'll kill you so who was Mario you remember Mario from Marshall yeah Harvey Mario he was a linebacker mm-hmm or defensive lineman I forget what it was line backer yeah they moved him over to fullback yep and he was a thump we're talking kind of stocky you know he was built to and he was getting built like a fullback he was getting people oh yeah I mean there is who was built to and he was getting built like a fullback. He was getting people

Oh, yeah, I mean there is who was that guy for the Jets? That was a fullback for a long time. Who was that? Connor Was that his name? The Terminator? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Remember there's John Connor. There's a couple like notorious hard hitters Lorenzo Neil Lorenzo Neil, Mike Leach, Dan Crider, Vaunte Leach You ever heard of Vaunte Leach? I played with Vaunte in Green Bay and then he like I played with Vonta in Green Bay. He was the guy like my rookie year I'm taking like hitting Vonta and Will Henderson who was a 12 year old-school fullback. So yeah, like that was my first training camp

for for Bulldog Antonio Morrison, I think. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah from Florida Morrison I think mm-hmm. Oh, yeah from Florida for the Packers he went to the Packers for a little bit I think he was a thumper if I do recall I remember was it Knicks in Pittsburgh the fullback for a while yeah Rosie Knicks yeah that dude that dude had a hard head Dan Ryder yeah James Devlin Corey Schlossinger Jim Pines saucer yeah Chris Fulma, Tuma Fala. Did you ever run into him? I do not believe so, but sometimes some teams would put in D lineman when they were trying

to run the clock out on you at fullback. That was the worst. How was that? You had Patrick Ricard every week. Yeah, Scott Matlock. Yeah. When it's Cincinnati. Now they're doing it all the time.

Big oof. Paco? Yeah. Play with Dumbutai. Yeah. He'll kill you. He will. So what, so your goal was just to get under them, leverage? Or what was your? I mean, those big guys, yeah, you gotta find a way

to have like a good, you gotta meet them in the whole, you gotta meet them before they get to you. On the like, at the line of scrimmage or on the other side, because those dudes have five, six yards, full head of steam. Good luck. Was Tolbert too small? No's over tobert no that's he those are those guys are impossible to get underneath them when they're like that so you were trying to put that this to here though right that's where your Adams at kind of

yeah you're trying to get underneath them like that yet low man wins always especially when you come like you're trying to yeah it's it's a weird deal like little got Michael the burner Turner I don't know if you guys remember him he's running back his one leg probably weighed 195 pounds of muscle each and he was low To the ground like those dudes were so tough to tackle This is fuck you got a rap there, but he's too powerful So then you'd like it through you can't go you go low and he's gonna break your neck and make you brain dead I can't go high. He's gonna run right through you. So those guys like Dave. Hey, we got to rally the troops

We're gonna need all 11 on this one Yeah, for real. He's one of those guys charges. They went to the Falcons up that he was a problem Oh monster, who's the Steelers guy from West Virginia? He had monster legs No, amos amos amos Monster legs, that's like Saquon those Those fucking legs, they matter in certain positions. That's why they say, look at the ash. That's why that Texas A&M offensive line, those dudes were huge.

Huge. They were listed at 330. I think they were at 350. I mean, their offensive coordinator could've done a better job to help them out. I mean, Jesus, that was fucking terrible. I mean, fourth quarter had an opportunity down there. Fourth quarter, they had an opportunity down there.

They did. I don't know what their air rating. That was a good play call. Four plays from the, they look like Penn State whenever they call area knows good play calling four plays from the they look like Penn State whenever they call for the same place from the one Penn State's in the college football playoff what's your I know but they're in the Big Ten champion clearly getting pressed back that entire series and they just kept running their head are you going to the Penn State Big Ten championship game no

we have seats though we have you want come on Does it matter? Oh good. Oh does what matters? I mean what kind of implications can we have from this game? I don't it doesn't if they don't do the if they lose do they go behind Ohio State AJ I Mean I would assume right well. That's an implication. I don't know if Ohio State dropped I feel like Penn State has no opportunity to remain at 5, personally. I think because they're right here. I think they beat Oregon, they're going to buy. They lose to Oregon, they're going to have to do the conversation of a re-seed with

probably 7. Ohio State who beat them, you know, so then there's that whole conversation. And one of Ohio State's losses is to who? Oregon. So it's like, depending on how the game looks, I think Penn State's going to move. I think obviously the seeding's going whole conversation. And one of Ohio State's losses is to who? Oregon. So it's like, depending on how the game looks, I think Penn State's gonna move. I think obviously the seeding's gonna move. I think a lot of teams remain the same.

That Clemson beating SMU. Could really throw a wrench. Yeah, that would be, that'd be pretty wild. Cause Georgia losing to Texas, we all just assumed Georgia's gonna stay in. Championship game of the SEC is gonna get a spot. That's not SEC SBN talking That's 13 people in a college football playoff committee since the beginning of college football playoff to be I would assume now

That is what Joe Tessitore also said Joe Tessitore said for a spot In a college football playoff every single overtime for Georgia So maybe he was on to something saying that even if they get three losses after the SEC Championship, they're gonna be in as well So it's a the Clemson SMU one has the biggest implications I think whenever you talk about it all everything else is just kind of falls in place Yeah, it feels like the only team that could get booted is Bama for for SMU if SMU loses Yeah, and this is SMU's first time correct me if I'm wrong tone. This is SMU's first time or second week being scheduled to be the ACC champions.

So Miami lost, after Miami lost to Georgia Tech, I can't remember if SMU was ahead of them or not to be honest. I don't think so, I think Miami been there a whole run. Yeah, SMU has been out every single time even though they've been leading the ACC. So that tells me potentially that the college football playoff committee doesn't have a lot of- Respect.

You would think, but maybe it's changed. And we're not saying this is not how we feel. This is not, we are strictly talking about 13 people in a room. That Ward Manuel is the AD of Michigan, is the leader of. I feel like the way SMU has been ranked, they don't have a lot of appreciation for this SMU team but then when Miami loses a couple times which was part of the conversation towards the end of the season which is why Alabama

who has dominating victories over Mercer and and I mean you think Ward manual knew that question was coming down the chute just say what you said at the start they lost to fucking Oklahoma I know Miami's out if they lost to Syracuse I knew they were gonna be out but he didn't like him talking about the last three games Bama lost to Oklahoma who's six and six in the last three games lost by 18 to yeah got shit kicked there are traditional blue blood though and he taught he talks about how he talks about how the history of these teams, it matters. It does.

It matters. It's not for the players. It's why Ohio State lost. Iowa's got no shot to make it. Cade McNamara transferred. Yeah, at least lose sleep over that one. I'm sure he's gonna wind up in a very desirable spot. Enjoy playing quarterback at Western Carolina pal good riddance get the fuck out of Iowa City

I Don't know to be honest because he hasn't played in quite some time, but I I don't appreciate the I don't appreciate them the bound out of senior senior day. Why is your treasure new wasn't it? Yeah, sure But you act like you're you know fucking King Iowa City the Iowa football program Savior and then you know Kirk does you a solid continued continues to play you when you just when you Fucking suck, you know shows a lot of I Mean, I don't know and then all of a sudden we try to do something nice for you senior day big big game against Nebraska Big rivalry. Yeah. Well again, you know we can talk about that. I

Was nine and one against the last fucking ten so like we can act like no that was big rather There's a couple fights. Well, there was shakes for sure for sure and I will played absolutely awful And guess what the the team that is should win always wins that game and it's always fucking Iowa You know and Nebraska fans will say one thing and that's fine and we could keep acting like Matt rules bear Bryant. That's fine I love Matt rule I do Remember what we're how we were talking about Nebraska? And you know what the fucking death blow for the Nebraska football program was when they're tweeting out and celebrating when they become bowl eligible There's a fucking team that used to win national championships

They weren't fucking throwing parties and having the hoopla when we're six and six. Are you kidding me? I remember when Eric Crouch was at Nebraska when Tommy Frazier was at Nebraska when I'm on green was that in the breast? Compton and it and now we're now we're okay with becoming bowl eligible you kidding me So yeah, I mean I was stinks There's no two ways about it, but when I was stinks they go eight and four so you know it's kind of just one of those I still don't know why Kate McNamara catches so much You know yeah, he wanted to go because the hype like going into the year it was no I know why it's because I always win fucking that camera from 13 or like 20 nothing against Iowa State at

Halftime and that fucker was one of 12 in the second half and threw for like eight yards and If Iowa beats Iowa State, I think the whole season is much different much different Like we're talking about and yeah, sure if I will gets into the playoff like they're probably gonna get their ass beat by somebody But like I don't give a fuck about that If I was a 12 seed and they have to go play Georgia and they get beat by 70 like cool bot cool with me They made it to the playoff and they got their ass kicked. I'm fine with that. Indiana's in the playoff Exactly. Indiana's in the playoff and they're ten and a half point dogs, you know to Georgia I bet that'll go yeah, that'll go drag things put out a bug exactly

It's ten and a half is the spread between Indiana, Georgia hypothetical via Draft Kings oddsmakers The other game I think was Alabama Notre Dame was two and a half I think then there was a 13 and a half, which was Penn State, Arizona there. And I didn't see what Tennessee or Ohio State. I think it was seven, Ohio State.

Yeah. Ohio State, seven? Yeah. Tennessee hasn't been as good throwing the rock this year, but they're not gonna have to do that in a horseshoe anyways at that time. And it's cold, you're gonna have to run the football. Yeah, Penn State by 14, Notre Dame by 2.5 versus Bama.

And then Tennessee is... Tennessee's getting 7.5. Give me that. Damn. I mean, I love the IU line. Kidding me? Love that Bama line. I don't trust that guy who doesn't love football.

Give me a break. All right. We know York loves... What's his name? Curtis what? Curtis Rourke. Did you know he's Canadian though? What? Doesn't know football. All right, we know your Courtesy what Kurtis Roark, you know, he's Canadian though. What is a good I had to pump the brakes when I saw that Is this about I just said hey from Canada, yeah, he's from Canada What is a fucking dog move? That's why he's a fucking dog. When did he move? What part of Canada? When did he come over?

I don't know. Me neither. Well you just saw... I know he's from Canada. Bingo. I said, you know what, I feel a lot better. Oh, he's from Ontario, he's a dog. I feel a lot better if this kid was born in Minnesota.

Where was Cade McNamara born? I don't give a shit, I think Cade McNamara fucking sucks. There you go, he wasn't born in Canada, I'll tell you that much. We're not talking about it, I'm just saying I don't Trust Curtis Rourke as much because he was born in Ontario and not in fucking, Minnesota That's what I'm saying That's a bummer Ontario's Toronto. Yeah, that's that area Niagara Falls. Yep. That's a great province

You know, you know why cuz he grew up saying I want to be a fucking Toronto Argonaut not I don't I want to be a Minnesota Viking and that's the bad I have a problem with that that's true go up that how it is go now all Canadians actually would probably want to play in the NFL but that's fine he's Buffalo Bill fed I would assume very close it's over one bridge are we sure do know? Curtis Rourke? Yeah do we know? He's part of Bill's Moff. You see where the guy plays? He is good but I'm just saying I just had to...oh wait a minute. Just being honest. Let's get to a break on the other side. We got in the trenches. We got everything DB. We also got three talking points.

Hell yeah. We got a lot of stuff coming up. We just went for two hours and five minutes straight. We shouldn't do that ever again. Rest in peace, Kade McNamara. Jesus Christ. Although he didn't die, he did get killed there. Yeah, I look forward to seeing where he plays next year. Better fit. This is just like Russell Wilson with Denver. Sure. Yeah, yeah, there you go. WVU. There you go. I don't know what Nico mozzarella's wanting to do. Okay, okay, so let's make sure we Have this all And also we still I think everybody's still on team Gigi still run a wall. He's senior. I

Think he's still just flipped a corner back from UNC today to West Virginia. Yep From UNC. Okay was recruiting them exactly Glade the brand the brand Victor Cabral Gigi will be somewhere else next year Can't spell victory without Victor and I'll tell you what if he is not on the staff any longer Oh, we will be missing out devastated keep Victor around but I would like to say Rem Baker's gonna get a ring West Virginia signing guys. they don't even have a coach. Yeah. Wow.

That's how strong the brand is. For those who don't know. Big 12, you get a spot at the table. The table's college football playoff. That first round, those games, we need those to be good games. Yeah. You know AJ, because if they're not good games next year, the conversation's gonna be sohmm. Oh, we're gonna do this every year. Is that we're gonna do, huh? We're gonna act like we'll actually be talking to a commissioner of the SEC Greg Senke on Friday. Nice Can't wait to hear his thoughts. I might have gassed him up yesterday a little bit say hurt

I heard there's only gonna be two SEC teams in there. Oh hers only gonna be two You tell me, Greg. Two? Maybe two, maybe one, maybe just a champion because how do they figure out anybody else? Tennessee beats Ohio State. Pfft. As how many point dogs, seven?

Seven and a half. Greg Sankey's gonna be like, where are we? Where's South Kackalack at? Imagine that Indiana Indiana Georgia game. Kurt Signetti's boys are going to ball. Yeah, I like that. With a Canadian quarterback.

I hope they do. Listen, I'm not shitting on the kid. I was just saying I did a double take when I saw that he was born in Canada and not the US. Maybe because he is Canadian, he had that thumb heal up quicker. Could be. Canadians got good thumbs. I Don't know Ford did fingernails growing out just a little bit longer, too Who's that? Was the guy's name Rob Ford Rob Ford's all right. Oh, yeah, I think you didn't do I think some people that

Potentially do the activity you were speaking of only have one nail I think Rob Ford actually had all ten of his nails. This is where we're ready Yeah, if they needed to rest in peace Rob Ford's What a chaotic like couple months that was so can't believe he's dead his his drop set quarterback his pass drop So good. You remember that? Oh, yeah, he flipped his hips Yep, he he grew up dreaming of being a Toronto, Oregon. Yes. He did. Yeah, it was very evident I'm so bummed that this show didn't exist during his yeah Agreed. Oh my all of it. Sorry. We got a better one. They're pissed at his brother now, so

Old Dougie Ford is in hot water boys Yeah, it's Dave's dog Ford. Yeah that guy brother now so old Dougie Ford is in hot water boys oh yeah Doug Ford yeah guy problems Doug Ford allegedly he wasted 2.2 billion on some sort of private spa but that's just what we're here rest in peace Rob Ford have an American football fan popped right up Passing pass around get your pies off. That's alignment right here. You see Getting back up. I don't know if he's got running to tackle him. Yeah, I don't think he's ever touched while he's down either. So Knees up. Yeah, he's still up. I'll secure you he's still up broken tackle. I don't know about the CFL rules, but like He's still making a play recipes to Rob Ford former mayor

Got love grace. I love it grace. It's an it's an athlete too, obviously. I thought he was going to. Watch him run. That might be Doug Ford. Yeah, we don't know which one is Doug. How about the guys in the back? Oh, Doug actually looks almost identical to Rob. I was going to say, I assume Doug. More rotata.

Better head of hair, but I'm about to say. Rob Loveball. He's dead. Yeah. Love, love life. He loved life. He loved a lot of things. Oh, that's a good one.

That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good ball. He's dead. Yeah, love love life. He loved life. He loved a lot of things Gumps whole What a great picture he's out there there remember his knee was not that up so on Bosco Balls. Yeah, he's former head coach Don Bosco prep shit

Camera in the back the guy in the back over his left shoulder there. Holy shit Rob Ford's about take this thing Yeah Buddy thinks he's got him tackled. Yeah, right It's just like all start we were talking about. Yeah, you think you're gonna arm tackle Rob Ford Not a chance. No way laughing at you. He is actually he's actually thinking about just squeezing the tie like a Like kind of strangling them. I think it helped. What was last time air got to this guy's head decades ago, oh wait doesn't matter as Off to the races rest in peace Rob. We think you would score a touchdown here. Oh Canada!

Gump's Home and Native Land! I don't think I know the rest. True patriot love. True son- yeah there's- In all thy sons command. Are you from Canada? No, I know the fucking national anthem. What the hell? Did you learn this after learning of O'Rourke's Native Land? love true something and all thy sons command are you from Canada no I'd know the fucking national anthem the hell did you learn this after learning of

Rorke's native line no well before well before like I said I got no bones with Canada I just said hey did a double take I thought this kid was from Indiana he's not or from the Midwest he's from you know he's from Canada grew up around hockey rings exactly Oakville though it's sport. It's a hardcore hood. His brother was Nathan Roark. Also played in the NFL. He was also the 2022 most outstanding Canadian in the CFL. Who? Nathan? His brother, he slinged the pigs. He's the most MOC? Yeah. He's the MOC? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You grow up wishing like oh my god one day I will be the MOC. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like I fucking said. That's what I'm saying. You grow up wishing like,

oh my God, one day I will be the MOC of the CFL. Most outstanding. He would sling it in the preseason every year for the Jaguars. Kid Canada. Nathan Rourke. He's a Canadian professional. Born in Victoria, British Columbia.

Fucking boom. Fucking Kid Canada has a single season CFL record name 78.7 completion percentage. Holy hell. I was born in my hometown kid, Canada Victoria Yeah, but he grew up in Oakville. Oh, he's very bored now born in Victoria Made if you asked him he'd probably be more proud to be from Victoria than Oakville kid, Canada. Yeah Oakville He played modern football for the Burlington Stompeters before praying move that playing Jesus Holy Trinity Catholic secondary school in Oakville. He transferred to Edgewood Academy in Elmore, Alabama So I came to America Curtis work probably did the same thing probably I didn't read that far foreign exchange

Yeah, grade 12 season that we say grade 12. Yeah Bama heard about Kid, Canada We have a Nathan Rourke highlight I do believe from Hammer I think 10 digs may be one of Nathan Rourke's biggest fans I did not know that we had a connection to Kid, Canada Canadian royalty Nathan Rourke for the Jags remember this Kid, Canada Canada that's Kid Canada can't be stopped I do remember that every season football baby what a play great that that's Canadian football he got Canada he's MOC bullshit well cuz his

style of play was Canadian you see you never knew what was gonna happen jogged off on third down. Had no idea. Punished the ball through the back of the end zone one time. Said that's a, that's worth a looney or tooney at least, sir. Saw that block, yeah. Oh yeah. This earned them a job for the Argonauts to go on to be the most outstanding Canadian.

Yep. Get Kid Canada back on the field, eh? That's what they said. Truly. And then Kid Canada's kid brother. Yeah Running things in Bloomington. That's right. We should maybe be pumped that he's Canadian now as opposed to startle don't you think after everything we just learned Kid Canada's a fucking dog and he has been good this year. No question about it again

I'm just gonna go back to what I said initially you see that and you just think I don't Know this kid grow up wanting to play in the CFO or did you want to grow up playing in the NFL? Just gives you pause for a second. I didn't read any deeper into his Wikipedia, you know disclaimer Way you go Curtis and Nathan and the Rourke parents. Yeah. Yeah, they love ball Papa Rourke birth and kid Canada You hit me. They love ball. Papa Rourke. Birth and kid Canada. You kidding me? They do love football. Support.

The Rourkes? Yeah. That's why you gotta love them against each other. Ten and a half. In between the hedges. That'd be a fun night for Signetti. That whole week, what he would say. If Georgia beats Texas, do they just fall into Georgia's spot?

Who, Texas? Yeah. If Georgia beats Texas, Texas falls to five. Yeah, that's where Penn State would drop to seven perhaps. I think Texas would fall to five. But that would be dependent upon Oregon beating Penn State. Cause if Penn State beats Oregon and Georgia beats Texas, then Oregon drops to five.

And then Texas would have to drop to six, you would assume. And then everything just kind of shuffles down. And then what happens if Clemson beats SMU for the shuffle down at the end of the bill? That's a problem. Penn State goes to number one. Penn State does have an opportunity to potentially be the number one seed in the college football playoff.

It is right. It's a big game, right? This weekend, huge game. How do they do in big games? Gee. Well, mostly big games we've talked about have been at Beaver Stadium It's an away game boys. No neutral. We got a chance. It's a neutral site. It's Indianapolis. It's in a lot of us Okay, it's out of Beaver Stadium struggled at the home big games

Neutral site. Are you guys gonna fill a remember the last time they were the big 10 championship sake one Barclay versus, Wisconsin How'd it go? This ain't was beat the shit out of them. You got Saquon in the backfield, brother We guys is a Wisconsin. Will you guys fill up Lucas oil? Yeah, we we travel. Yeah. Yeah, that's a quick pitch. I assume Oregon will have a good amount Yeah, that's a long long long trip. Yeah, but I think there are people will obviously travel But like Penn State probably gonna take over. Yeah, it's gonna turn into the Loud House. It's gonna be insufferable So and you guys are you guys gonna try to do a whiteout at another neutral site game probably for sure Are you starting there right now watch and it's gonna be the I mean they're gonna be across from each other. We are

We are are you gonna be a part of mean they're gonna be across from each other. We are Penn State. We are. Are you gonna be a part of that or are you deciding not to go? Probably watch from home. Good luck boys. Quacking all night. There he is. Yeah, he's pulling for the Ducks apparently. Yeah.

I'm waiting for Penn State to play Arizona State. Then I can really walk around town Peacock and Les Ken Dillingham just smacked the fucking high school coach relax whoa whoa what oh whoa big 12 gotta get through great Iowa State I mean he sent his quarterback back 47 yards and left time on the clock yeah they learned from the right idea it was the concept on the QB yep, they learned from it. It was the right idea. It was. It was the concept. It was on the QB. Yep, that's right. Retro freshman, tough luck. Quarterback Levitt. Certainly we could pull on him if we'd like to. Ken Dillingham is learning from it all. He is. Let's get to a break.

We'll learn on the other side. In the trenches, top five performing offensive lines. Everything DB, good D, bad D. Top three takeaways and also... Can you pause the music for a moment? Dingle bells from Dude Wipes AJ I need you to really follow along here. I got you. Yeah, because following the phenomenally successful Last run Dude Wipes had the Dunkin Spice boom successful last run Dude Wipes had the Dumpkin Spice. Boom!

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Dingle bells, AQ Shipley. That's right. I think you need more than anybody, maybe. Hey, man. Maybe. Me and Ty followed each other up this morning. We could've used them. Oh, I didn't have the dingle bells. I had to use the Dunkin' Spice, but oh my god.

They can really detect the balsam in here. Smells delicious. Balsam too? Yeah. Is that some of the Holly Jolly shit you're talking about? Yes, it is. Because clove is, I don't know what that is. Am I pronouncing it correctly? You are. Okay, clove. That is something that's Holly Jolly? It's a spice of some sort.

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That's what I smell. That's what your cheeks smell like after you dump. Exactly. Are you kidding me? Walking around with the holiday in your pants? Yeah. Holy hell. Unbelievable.

It does, doesn't it? It's like those sticks, those fake scent sticks you stick in your tree. Happens this year. Yeah. Very good move. You can just... You should probably just, I mean if you want to put these in your tree, Happens this year. Yeah. Yeah. Very good move. You can just.

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I think so too. Yeah. And that's saying something. Somehow they've outdone themselves. This is great. Dunkin' Spice was delicious as well. Yeah, but these dingle bells are delightful. John, I can't wait for my cheeks to meet you guys. Yeah.

Thanks for your service. Let's get to a break. On the other side, we have top five performing offensive lines. We have good D and bad D. And we have top three takeaways. Are they good this week or no? Yeah, real good. All right. We'll see. Yeah, we also have the Super Bowl. Oh Let's get to a break be a friend telephone something nice might change your life like dingle bells Dude, can you smell it all the way over there? I can't actually it's coming through the screen

It's a scratch and sniff you scratch your phone right now Smell it just think of Christmas. That's right All bullshit aside Life changer. Yeah, no joke Yeah Happy they're very prevalent around here Cuz the worst thing is when you go somewhere they ain't got one. But you gotta unload.

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Don, Don, that's AP Tone. And we have some breaking news. The Baltimore Ravens have suspended Deontay Johnson for one game. Yeah, Deontay Johnson, they traded for from the Carolina Panthers, who he was traded from the Pittsburgh Steelers to the Panthers. Now he's at the Ravens. The Ravens are suspending him for one game

conduct detrimental to the team now that statement right there conduct detrimental the team can be utilized in a lot of different fashions you can you can use against somebody for a tweet that they put out for instance you can get find conduct detrimental to the team for a tweet that you put out there is nothing to do with anything but it was certainly detrimental to the team for a tweet that you put out that is nothing to do with anything but it was certainly detrimental to the team if you were looking at it as a detriment to the team. So this is normally utilized as an umbrella over things that they don't think you should be doing if you're a member of the team. In this particular instance allegedly he refused to go into the game

against the Philadelphia Eagles. So Eric DeCosta announced that Deontay Johnson suspension stemmed from the wide receiver refusing to enter Sunday's game against the Eagles. Now, I think Harbaugh was asked about it and he like gave like a nondescript answer. Now they're suspending him for a game. I wonder if they're just going to release him or how this ends up. Remember he came in middle of the season for them, AJ. Haven't seen this in a while the Suspend a player because we don't like what you're doing this public situation, especially on this good of a team, you know the Baltimore Ravens

Yeah, I mean it's uh Coaches want to set the tone I think and let people know like not let things slip through and not let guys get away with stuff that may You know on other lesser teams or teams with less wins may not happen. So yeah, I don't know exactly what happened, but why do you refuse to go back in or why are they saying he did that? I don't know, D Butcher, have you ever heard of a player doing it? I've never-

Yeah, I've heard of people doing it, like trying to get, if somebody feels disrespect, like you put them in garbage time. Yeah. It wasn't a garbage time situation in this game. This was a game where obviously Lamar had to pass, so you would think it would be opportunities for him to catch the ball. He hasn't really had any production since coming over to Baltimore, so maybe he's just frustrated with his role altogether,

but definitely not a good look for him, especially if you're expecting him to go into, you know, free agency or something next season. Yeah, and the team that wanted him, like, traded for him. Like, this was their move at the Deadliner before the Deadliner to add to their wide receiver room. Like, why was it? 22 different personnel groups a few weeks back and then we all assumed because

they had him go in motion remember he won in like a little first week he won a little I can't emotion and in a red zone and then nothing really came of it not coached obviously yeah I believe you were there when a player refused to go I was there when a player decided you just exit the stadium respectfully a little different yeah respectfully well, same thing. Driver waiting for him. Yeah. Daddy Boy House of Heart. What up, Cheech? Hey, Danny Boy was ready. Got an award season coming up for AB. I'm excited to see how that whole thing goes, obviously, on a generational run. On a generational run on that. Man. Legitimate. Yep, absolutely. Just a

whole thing there. But him not, he just is over the situation, but he's at the game, he's showing up at the meetings. I don't know, at what point do they know that he's not happy, is it a full-time thing, and how does it get resolved? Yeah, that's the curious thing, is whether or not he was a big part of the game plan, or even a part of the game plan, right?

And then he goes into the game, and now you're, what, mid-second quarter, and you haven't seen the field yet, and then maybe now I'm like stewinging I'm walking back and forth and got it. Maybe blows up I think probably would be more realistic. You think the he was maybe supposed to go in a couple things they hold him out instead. Yeah.

And then as it continues to boil over. Yeah, you know, I know. Yeah, that's potentially what took place. That's what I would assume because like typically like, you know, your first 15, people don't realize it's like you script your first 15, but that can go, you can go off course very quickly. Like your first two plays go minus one and nothing. Now you're third and 10.

That third play is not getting called and you're completely off script. And when there was a plan for something, plan changes immediately. Immediately. And we hope you figure it out. Yeah, because they went up nine, nothing. The raiders were the ones that jumped out.

Early it was working. Yeah. So maybe it was. But same thing. It could like, you know, you might think you're going to go to a run on play three, but you hit two big chunks off one and two. Right? Now we're just now we're rolling.

Now we just start. Hold on. We figured out because normally the first 15 is trying to figure out what they're going to do to you. Right? Yeah, typically in a lot of what a lot of people do is that's where you get all your different personnel groups you try and put as many personnel groups. Get the empty check all that stuff. Try and see what the defense and how they're gonna match you and do all

that stuff. What's their plan for whenever we do this? Let's find it out as quick as possible. Yeah but if you're having success on a couple things like well wait we can we just go this is we found it we don't need to figure out anything else but because they didn't maybe that's why Philadelphia's able to get back in. You know? Which I think is gonna be a part of this conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, we've been doing this every week

and it's been amazing. It's been fun to dive into this guy's mind. Now he's got rocks for brains for most things, but whenever it comes to football, it's certainly worthy of being listened to. Let's do our top three takeaways from week 13 from AQ Shipley's point of view. AQ, your first one you say young

Bo Nix knows. Young Bo Nix knows. The old take on Bo knows. Shout out. What do you believe in young Bo knowing? Yeah, I think he's become one of the better quarterbacks in the league and he has entered the rookie of the year conversation in my opinion. Take a look here. We get Jordan Hicks walked up over the center this is a big-time play he trusts the protection fades away and Puts it in the spot to Cortland Sutton now if he puts out his front shoulder obviously be a little bit better Yeah, but he's fading away trust to the protection moves away moves in the pocket and trust it That's what I like to see you're a big fan of him. I'm a huge fan You're gonna see a couple more throws that he does that is

Unbelievable. Let's take a look at this one backed up in his own zone and own end zone rolls out to the right Trust the protection again. Watch this one over top of Jordan Hicks. Cortland Sutton again 30 yard game That was on a rope laser. That was on an absolute Risky, I mean this could have been picked. I mean plus rolling out your own end zone Maybe not the smartest of ideas you can get a holding. A lot of things. They trust everything. They're doing everything. Scheme and fit is everything with this guy. 6'2", 220. A lot of football. Has played a lot of football. And it feels like he's only getting more and more comfortable in Sean Payton's scheme. Good for Sean Payton finding his guy. I remember draft night, he said, this was...

Yeah, he's the best quarterback in the draft. This was the guy. He was exactly what he was looking for whenever he took the Broncos job and he had Russell Wilson there. He was like, maybe Russell is better next, you know? Like he's looking for what, six two, 220? What is he, able to move, able to run? Cheap, young. Accurate and consoling.

Loves ball. Accurate, loves ball. Like I think that was what he envisioned. So whenever, I think Russell Wilson, he had no chance. No. I think going in, Sean Payton told the Walton family, which I just saw one of the Walmart families They got a 300 million dollar yacht popped up on my Instagram. That thing's nice. Oh my god Good for them think about that because somebody in your family thought you know what we need to be charging for space in the store Not what's actually in the store. That's right And then we're just gonna have all of them.

They have all the money in the world. They're the richest owners in sport. So Sean Payton can have whatever amount of money he needs for coaching staff, which has obviously worked out with Vance on defense side, everything that they have cooking in there. But also for them to say, yeah, we'll just eat however much money we firmly believe

in whatever you want to do. And they kind of just handed the reins seemingly to Sean Payton. And last year, obviously obviously what a nightmare situation. This wow this is embarrassing the games passed him by and then he gets like the guy who wants and then this year it's just gotten better and better and better and better every week. Guys gonna win the rookie of the year. He uses the screen game more than anybody else in the league and that has only made

this guy more comfortable. Jaden Daniels obviously early front runner for offensive rookie of the year especially with how the commanders have done wild and awesome change. How does the end of this season go? We shall see how it all goes. There's still a lot of football left. Brock Bowers is leading the NFL as a tight end in a lot of things. He's certainly phenomenal. Bo Nix though his name has come into the offensive rookie of the year conversation as of like what the last five weeks. Let's go to a man who has an AP vote who will be deciding offensive rookie of the Year conversation as of like what the last five weeks. Let's go to a man who has an AP vote who will be deciding offensive rookie of the year. One of I think 51 people. Let's go to Hammer.

Tone is he obviously in the offensive rookie of the year conversation and how long has he been there? Yeah it's those three and it's been both. Bo's jumped up in there for over the last few weeks because I mean it was Jane was running away with it for a while and then he kind of cooled off. weeks because I mean it was Jane was running away with it for a while and then he kind of cooled off um I can't well yeah but I mean I mean that's part of cooling off um he still played yeah he still played but Bo Bo over the last month or so I think he won uh rookie of the month last month but then Brock I believe Puka won it last year and Brock is breaking all of Puka's records so it's gonna be very interesting coming down the stretch Yeah, well and these Denver Broncos are in it. They're obviously holding a seven seed right now. They're in the AFC West

That's a tough division gonna be a tough division for however long Patrick Mahomes wants it to be an incredibly tough division Let alone Herbert and Harbaugh over there But they're currently in the wild card position with a rookie quarterback and a 43 million dollar detriment or whatever the seller kept Good for them. Why was your what's your second talking point, A.Q. Shipley? Jalen Carter, the game record. Got some stats on Jalen Carter. 72 of 73 snaps this past weekend. I think he's played 84% of the snaps this season,

which is fourth among D linemen. I think that also counts defense events. He's out there a lot he's wrecking games what you're saying yeah he's been unbelievable he's actually been in my opinion the best player on the field almost every single game he stepped into and he is doing it in a multitude of ways it's not always sacks it's not always pressures but in this first play you're gonna see this he reads the screen both center and guard both get out Linderbaum all-pro toss him

towards it back inside and that's how you make a play and let your boys come and make a play. That's like D-Tac was supposed to. Eat up blocks, force things to go different directions, do the dirty work. But the way that he just throws Linderbaum and he'll do it again here in a couple plays is insane. Linderbaum's one of the best players in football, one of the best centers in football, and check this one out. Here he is over Falele on the right boom rips inside Causes a pressure backed up in their own end zone. Yeah, okay. It's a five-yard game, but it makes Lamar Uncomfortable in the pocket gets a hit on the quarterback. It's a pressure. It's a face Look at this guy. Look at this big top man.

Come on. What are we doing? Big time. That's down there in their own ends, they're not gonna call that. Come on. Ripping his face mask off. Absolutely.

That's a safety. 72 of 73, 72 of 73 stamps, they got about sick of this guy. Yes, right. This guy need to take a break at some point. Well, on this next play, Lamar Jackson, one of the most electrifying players

in football, right? Should be able to run away from everybody. Not this 320 pound D tackle, reading him. Boom, get his legs, that's a sack, tries to get away, knee was down, that's a sack. Sacking Lamar, not easy at all. There was a couple different times

he's chased him down, isn't it? Oh yeah, and there was another one, yeah, I showed it to you off air, but he's rolling out to the right, and again, he is running step for step with Lamar Jackson, it's insane. What a beast. That's awesome.

That's a great feel for the guy. And this last one, just watch what he does to Linderbaum here watch this swim And then his other and then his buddy gets the sack such as full chaos in the middle of the pocket He is just wrecking games from the interior of the pocket every single game Marmos stayed up on that on that toss by by Nolan Smith now speaking of third takeaway from week 13 From a Q Shipley says Lamar's mom knows ball What do you mean by that AQ Shipley? Well, we all saw the press conference after and Lamar said he got a text from his mom said hey

We need to run the ball more. So let's take a look at why I pulled three clips These are moments in the past where Lamar pulls this thing down pause it right there. You see that lane you see anybody It's a big that is where he takes off and gets you at least 10. That is going to be at least a first down. But he's trying to let things progress. Almost throws the interception. Run. Use your strengths. You are electrifying. Do what you do. He said he's trying to let plays develop though like most quarterbacks do. And if they're protecting him well, I think he feels obligated to do as such. But he said he's going to get

back to his shit. He's going to get back to his shit is what he said. And I'm excited to see that shit because when he is running, listen, if the first option, maybe second option is there, throw it. It's great. If it's not, I'll take my chances. Yeah, but he's not saying you can outrun people. How is he supposed to get 60 or plays if you don't let the play develop? You're going to have to run that far. Yeah. You know? Have we seen that? Have we seen Lamar run 60 60 yards remember play against Cleveland four or five years ago? Listen, I want to see the band spin spin see a 50 yards time to see Lamar run more, too Yeah, I think it is like a very spectacular thing whenever he has the ball in his hands Yeah, but I do completely understand where he's like

Well, I'm supposed to be waiting for this play and I'm being protected because they don't want to rush me because of who I am So I think he has his eyes downfield instead of just back in the day where he was looking to make the play So that's a tough thing to balance I think for I think that's gonna be a tough thing for him to kind of figure out what we would like to reiterate to Him is like when you're running with the ball of mine. It's better than any yeah Yeah, the end of anything else that's gonna happen anywhere You with the ball in your hands gonna be better than whatever the end of the game before the likely last touchdown when it was 20 to make it 24 19 he ran for like 60 or 50 yards and it was

Unbelievable just to watch him do that shit. Yeah, and the other thing is too They're normally protecting the hell out of them. They normally are this game. They were not I mean listen these guys right here wrecked. I mean they were getting after it I mean all game long and they did a great job of trying to see how they're trying to keep them in the pocket and then Never go past them right. They're trying to always keep them there But in that instance, I'm still taking my chance with Lamar running right down the middle of the field Yeah, and he also what you got thinner, right? This is the most yeah, so Can't be taking too many shots here. Here's another one here You're gonna pull the guard here pull the guard pull McCarrie right boom step back inside now

You got back turned you got man coverage there. You got man coverage there. You tell me boys is he getting something there? Yeah 53 and a third probably yeah, this is what this is what Lamar's mom was talking about. That's exactly it just three clips There's a 20-minute good agent to yeah, boss is what Lamar's mom was talking about. That's exactly it. Just three clips. He's a good agent too. Yeah. Yeah. Boss is good agent. Right. All right, we can't wait to watch on the other side of the bye.

Those are three good takeaways from AQ Shipley. AJ, what are your thoughts on his three takeaways, pal? I think Lamar is, and naturally as the season goes and the games mean more and more, he's gonna run when he needs to. Like he's gonna run more. But it is, you're right, it's a weird balance. Like, all we can see him throw from the pocket. Yes, he's proven he can do everything we know that but I think when the games are on the line like

When it's winter go home in the playoffs those times like Lamar knows when to pull it down I think Lamar also wants to be like a point guard too, you know, like yeah I would like to even said like I want to set up my guy, you know Like I want to try to set up my guys downfield So like I get what he's doing for sure, but also see also Lamar The reason why you're getting paid more than everybody else on that team is because you are 101 bub is your right guys downfield. So like I get what he's doing for sure. But also see also Lamar, the reason why you're getting paid more than everybody else on that team is because you are a one-on-one bub. Can't wait to watch. Nobody, nobody can move like him and throw like nobody on the planet.

Oh, run stop thing. It's like funny to think about, but like he's setting that up for like 20 yards as he's eyeballing somebody and then do it. That's a professional athlete. He's routinely made professional athletes, the best athletes on earth look stupid at a higher rate than anybody else. Him and Tyreek, I think, are the two guys that have just been the most dynamic

with the ball in their hands. And I guess you can put Turpin in there as of like the last year or so. But even like the Turpin, of course, but like the scale and the amount of times Tyreek and Lamar have like consistently every single game when they get the ball, it's like unmatched.

When you put Lamar back in for the kickoff return, I think about it. Yeah. Could you imagine him? I mean, throwbacks too. Yeah. Every single time there's, this guy could throw the thing 70.

What a stud. Okay, speaking of studs, who were the top five performing offensive lines out of week 13 of the NFL season? Let's go in the trenches with AQ Shipley Number five performing offensive line from this past weekend. We're gonna start with the Detroit Lions They moved back a little bit this week They obviously had some issues, but they did have two running backs that both ran for over 85 yards

So pretty damn good. If you ask me, let's take a look at this We're gonna run a simple zone to the left as we let this thing roll Frank rag now gets this thing started reach reach reach Everybody stretches everybody on the front side then on the backside look at soul fucking make the hole It's called stretch and then cut stretch and cut now in the old days. It was cut because everybody cut He's so damn good He just gets underneath it and turns them and then. Now in the old days it was cut because everybody cut. He's so damn good, he just gets underneath it and turns them and then that's where the hole is. You always get the stretch,

the running back's gonna take five steps and then make the cut back and when he makes that cut back he's got 10 yards of hole every single week you turn this clip on. AJ, where's the Iberflu's discipline on his defense, pal? We not too gapping at all, we're all just getting flushed. Let's all just get flushed the fuck down you can hear you can literally hear the coach and then of course yeah we need one guy to make a play and then they got no shot

why why did the line back there? I got a guy you got a man-on-man you got look at that look at that picture right there it's unbelievable every single to every week they have something like that. It's every week. Ben Johnson. Hey Q, how'd you feel about the Penn A Sewell reverse pass there? I loved it. I would have loved to just seen him throw it regardless.

Just throw it. Yeah, but instead we got the... Yeah, we got five guys on him. We got the stiff arm. Five guys? I can't say anything about that. I don't mind their burgers. I don't mind it.

I'll be honest. I don't like it. Really? Yeah, I'm not a five guys guy. Wow. Wow. Truly. I don't think it's like that. I don't like I can't tell you the last time I had five guys. Really? Not bad. I'm my particular feeling. I mean, look, I just hang my head on those golden arches every single time. I understand that. Gotta come out West, get that in and out. Don't you say that. See, that's overhype, overhype. Don't you please?

Yeah. People love it out there. And eat it the first 30 seconds. You know what you fucking just did. I just gassed it up. I just gassed it up. It's too much. If you're gonna eat in and out,

my very limited experience, better eat in the first 45 seconds. Why? Cause it's going to be a mush. Crop. Crop. The lines that people do for that. Crazy.

I respect it. I do respect, I don't know who has the time, but I do, I do respect that they do it. Take the Chick-fil-A lines, it's like, okay, warranted. I get that. Yeah, but they also. They go. They're very efficient.

And they're not efficient. My pleasure. Exactly. Great, I know. A lot of thank yous. In and out. I mean, that's not you're not getting that there I don't know if they did it or not What was it California burgers or something opened here in Indianapolis and they had a local news segment and there was cars Through the drive-through. I think they thought it was in and out. I think it was like I don't know if there's a planted cars like by the company themselves been which is not a bad play everybody works your bring your fucking car we're gonna act like there's a line yeah that's not a bad idea but I don't know if they

thought it was in and out burger too I didn't know fully understand it I've driven by since there's been zero people in there in and out always packed always really yeah and there I mean there's 20 in a master marketer 50-mile range like they're everywhere what do do you mean master marketers? They said you got me that thing? Monster great product, but for whatever reason like it's like Yeah, boss is cool You don't like it H. I'm not into like I'm a you know, I mean I'm not the right demo, you know I'm not a foodie exactly. I like stuff. I like just ketchup and cheese. I don't need extra spicy weird sauce.

You can get that. Yeah, you can get that. Which is what I'll get, but I'm saying, but people say, oh, that's not the full in and out experience you need to do that, like you said, monster style. Yeah, you're not ordering in monster style. It's animal style. He's not a foodie, guys.

He can't eat in and out. Yeah, I'm not. No, I can't. I'm saying I don't have a cultured palette like you guys Like what do you guys I like plain stuff you got you like plain stuff because you like to keep your body fat percentage Low because you and the general Bob Carpenter tested every single week Okay, that's more fat chat about carpenters was on get up the other day. Did you see that talking? Oh, no He's back. I didn't I did Bob showed today. I do every Wednesday

I join him and Schlage's and Bobby has a thing him having a morning show Every single day four hours drinking a bottle At least six to nine a.m. Maybe six to ten most impressive part local radio four hours in the morning That's general football. That's right legend Alright, who's the number four ranked offensive line coming out of week 13 in the trenches with a q Shipley? We got the Washington commander Washington's back. Let's take a look at this. Let's take a look at this plane and I'll tell you why it's so good, right?

So you're gonna pull the backside guard and tackle right the front side. Everybody's just gonna block down They're gonna arc release earth just to kind of occupy the backside end in the back time safety But here's the key. We're running a play to the right. Look at Jayden Daniels He's gonna open up to his left, running back, open to left. Eyes on the defensive end. Holds them, right? Now we're gonna hand it off to the running back. As we hand off the running back,

now he gets in behind his pullers, but it held the backside, who are the guys who are supposed to fly over the top and make this play. Just long enough. And then. A little bit. Did it get called?

Didn't get called. He got a good read. He got a good quick read too, but yeah, it's got enough of him. How good a good read. You got a good quick read too, but yeah, it's got enough of them. How good is that though? How good is that? That's good.

I mean, that hold's enormous. They do enough to hold the backside. Oh yes, hold, hold is the big part of it. That's okay. That's okay. Doesn't get called. We just call this a touchdown. That's all.

Yeah, huge. Second puller, boom. There it is. Doesn't get touched. Off to the race. At the point of attack too, a big hold like that. I'm, that's good. Shout out to the good shot to the refs your command to the ref But I do like that the commander's offensive line is good because they seemingly have flipped that team

So fast, yeah nuts gotta have a good offensive line if you want to go entire culture No question starts with the center be oddish They get him from Dallas bring him with Quinn right and they I think I'm pretty sure they were the biggest winners of free agency I mean they spent the most they brought ten or eleven guys in our free agency so it was a whole new team new ownership new vibes new everything good luck to them it was only Brian Robinson jr. really I mean they had Jeremy McNichols but Eckler's out with a concussion right now might be back after the bye week but yeah what about the commies huh what

about they're changing the name maybe Maybe? Yeah, you know, I like to going back Football team. No, they're going back back All the way back all the way back Yeah, it's kind of like when Sean Taylor played there oh I see a lot of this highlights rest in peace what a dog dog I mean, I see a lot of this highlights rest in peace. What a dog some peace dog That's the thing right there on this. I mean, I'm just gonna say whoa Yeah, well, I don't know the answer. So if you know if Red skis. Oh shit. Oh

That was a that was a tweet. I read I read the words. So since I had to read it you guys have to hear it Wow, there's there is there like a lot of people behind that or I think so it does feel like there's a lot of people behind that Everyone's like look no one gives a fuck about the name anymore, I Feel like the people That are getting behind it are like combating Also the immediate nah nah nah was like well are you gonna? Oh you're telling us? Yeah, exactly like doesn't feel like that. Yeah, absolutely, but I don't know what's real. What is it real?

That's the problem that we're currently in well You know like I get if if there was a problem from one side and then say okay fine But like you know the Boston Marines are taking on the Chicago Blackhawks tonight. I Think Dan Snyder being gone helps because people are like this guy's a huge piece of shit so on top of it like now they're good and they have new ownership so it's kind of like hey I don't think there's anything you know like a lot of Americans are like this is the internet I don't know what is feels like there was a lot of Native American groups and I don't know what

the groups are I've not tested the groups a lot of them all coming out being like We would like to not be erased from history pop culture Everything in the world, which is vastly different than what was being said remember It was oh, yeah, but who was saying that at the time was it you know who was yeah exactly Good luck happy we don't got figured out Glad not a fan of the Washington team because I would buy merch every single year with a new name.

Now remember we saw that they don't buy new merch. There is only one merch that is happening in that group. Which I also think goes to why they're like, hey, it's time to go back. When they played out here in Indianapolis, there wasn't a single football team or commander's piece of merch. No. And they had a lot of fans out here.

Yeah, plenty. I didn't see a single WFT, not a single one of those. Not a single commander's left hand up. They weren't even good then, and they still had people traveling for them. They beat us. Well, if the team's not four and 13, They're gonna win. Let's go to the next Offensive line still in it Colts are still in it still bringing it. They are Boom two big booms last night from Russell Wilson after a touchdown or Mike Tomlin

I think maybe it was after her big gets a strip sack her big strip sack against Orlando Brown Junior Zeus and you know, it's a big talking point of the week and he gives two big booms. Booms! Two big booms. I did find that. Those are big booms. Little Costco beat Bryce Harper in a boom contest?

It did. Did you see that AJ? Duh. I missed this one. How? Good question. I did, I don't know how. Start crying., but I did it was a home run competition against Bryce Harper Little Costco Bryce Harper, how many do you hit out of ten?

Look real real home runs. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I refenced the Stadium for a little Costco made it further Exactly is little Costco didn't play in that basketball game with the Knicks, right? Oh, that's a little Costco. The Rizler would beat all of them, right? We don't know how he can swing a bat. We know how he can handle situations and he is booming. He's a heavy hitter.

We assume he hit. He does it. You hit your golden buzzer for the reason Big go you put your golden gloves on you get your golden bat and you see the fucking Riz Hit a ding if you need to take if you need to pick me up. There's a video the Riz are trying pickles standard variety pickle Spicy pickles phenomenal Standard variety pickle, spicy pickles. Phenomenal.

Very good. Who's number three performing offensive line out of week 13 in the trenches with AQ Shipley? We got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Whoa, used to coach there. Used to coach and play there. I'd love for D-Butts and AJ to tell me what they do when they see this play.

Tight end going across, tight end whammy, center blocking the nose this way. And then guess what he guess we can do go behind the rest of the offensive line back block the backside Will and then we hit it up the a gap I'd love for you guys to tell me what your key reads are gonna be when you see this shit happening Tight ends crisscrossing wham in the nose center occupying the nose back to the will Guard beating the shit out of somebody and then we just hit it for 40 up the a gap This guy's electric. Yeah, that's tough. Hey, what are you doing? Okay, is that Joe? I believe that's Josie jewel in there for he said look he gets a good read

He sees like he starts to shoot it, but then all of a sudden this guard says nope I'm gonna throw you out of this club Cody mock the North Dakota State read that's right age 93 can't even tell it's a guardian camp Jesus Christ. I was Color I don't even see the fucking play Why I was running the play and stop over here all I was watching was that bland gray? Christ that thing is fucking massive. I mean, how can we not match a color at this point, right? It's like space balls.

How is it supposed to have a gloss, bub? It's a surprise it has a logo on it. There is a logo on it. I know, I'm surprised. They draw it on? No, they, hold on. I'm surprised the guardian cat made a huge top five. Yeah, I'm surprised. It was damn good block It is a great blocking scheme though. I mean it's getting 20 do anything or no D

I mean if 93 holes which is much easier from from here at this desk, but a You said that's for you. They said this is the one you like to play with whenever you were yeah same one When it is the one AJ you lose to like this is the whole thing strapped to a helmet obviously put that thing on Looks just like a helmet. You want to put? That's just same thing It's tough. This wouldn't be in the game. No, I would take this off Yeah tag off. Yeah, I'll take tag off but can't even tell right looks cool No, couldn't tell on it was at all. No

You should when you get in the oculus you should put that thing on you're right something to think about with the awk Yeah, just in case you know cuz you can't get pretty active in there Uh-huh and confuse virtual reality for actual reality don't want to fall down and speaking of actual reality are these helping or not? We they are yeah saving line. I thought there is not wearing his anymore Yeah, I thought there was took it off name either anymore. Okay I think it's a chan. Okay, please. It's got something actually gotta be working I thought there were signs that it wasn't helping No, I think it was 33 percent each hit each helmet

Remember, I think that was like the estimation and then when they like went into the games it was like, oh never mind Well, I weren't we told that there is a helmet that is the same that they made already as having a couple of them with a guardian cap on it yes but what if you have the helmet that is the guardian cap and helmet with a guardian cap on top you'd be double-stamping then right yeah it's like two condoms yeah works way better yeah exactly everybody knows exactly what they say exactly holy shit that is the perfect analogy actually look how big his head looks when he does when he does the fist pump when he realized it's gonna be a touchdown the top of his helmet is at the upper deck of the stadium.

Just wait. It's, I mean, it's, it's good block. Here it comes. Yeah. Big fucking head looks, she was like, it'd be top heavy. He's a monster too. Luke Gadecki is a monster. Great player too. Look at that move. He's got hips in there too. Physical tough. Yeah. Smart. Hey, what'd he, very smart Yeah, smart. All right

Who's the number two ranked offensive line or performing offensive line coming out of week 13 the Buffalo Bills? The Buffalo Bills how awesome was this game to watch so cool, right? So cool, dude can hardly see the little circle on the big old lineman about to go in motion come over and then we're just going to run old school. So we can easily see the snow. Wow. The snow. You get what I was getting.

You get what I was saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see it though. I know we can see it. You were saying it's the same color. White, white guys. Get it. Come on.

Hard to see the hash. Yeah, that might be it. There it is. Snow covered game. You knew it was going to be a downhill running game. They just line up motion in Mack Hollins somehow he's wearing cleats instead of barefoot fun gets a great block Safety horrible angle and then we just go the distance. We just take this thing What 65 years comes what four on three? It's all it is

They just and they do a great job motioning down and then they're just literally reading off each other the the guy who's the back? I was Mack Collins. He just reads off everybody and takes the next guy Safety's the unblock guy takes a horrible angle. I just James Cook looks so fast So much fast so fast and everybody else and there was a conversation Remember that the bills weren't built to be a bills team. Remember that was I kind of the MO is They're a fast track. They do better in a dome and everything like that They were having a blast it looked like. That team was having a great time.

I mean this is how this game had to go, you knew it. And that's why I was almost leaning like, okay the Niners with McCaffrey, and they came out humming, right? Like their run game was humming. He goes out, Wynn goes out of the sales, and then this team, I mean they end up running the shit out of the ball.

Two double teams, right? That's duo, double team on the front side, double team on the backside. So you're gonna get tackle and guard on the double team, backside, center and guard, up to the two backers. That handles that. And then these three are three for three right here. And then the only unblocked person's number 27, and he takes an angle like he's playing high school

football, and then boom, we're out the gate. Shit is the worst. Jazz. Like those elements. Hey, so I know like when people go barefoot it's because they're earthing or grounding. Yeah. But what if it's on top of poured concrete? Is it the same?

Does the vibes from earth radiate through the poured concrete to your soul? It's a really good question. I think so. I think it can. Just not as much I think. It's better being grass. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think Rick Ross used to go outside in his front yard every morning in feet to grass.

Yep. He used to walk, grounding. So when I see Mac Collins do it, I respect that he's doing it in, you know, being one with Mother Earth. But I don't know the cement. Cause I think he should have been snow, earth with those feet, if you want to ground, I think.

Yeah, I think Mac has kind of a heightened sense of Grounding so when it comes to the concrete his sense of the grounding kind of overpowers with the concrete does to the earth Oh, so he's so it's not earth reaching through the concrete to him. It's him him reaching through to the earth God, okay, he's sending his energy to the earth. Yeah, okay cool So it's not the earth's energy. It's his energy to for most people it is but for him. He's sending his energy to the earth. Okay, cool. So it's not the earth's energy It's his energy to for most people it is but for him he's sending his he is the mad scientist And it's given an equal reaction back to him. This is crazy. Thank you. What a weapon His ass off but what I watched him spray lube on a garage door the other day I discovered his Instagram

Yeah, he's always doing these he's like showing you how to fix things and it's pretty interesting I'm not gonna lie. I got lost for a little bit. What'd the lube do to the garage door? He was spraying lube Tony. Hey, you want squeaky? You don't want a squeaky garage door anymore Do you boom and he's spraying it down holding a little cardboard behind you so you don't it doesn't run like the guys legit What is he Billy Mays on his Instagram kind of for real his Instagram is fascinating No, no lie. I just found it. I just found it. It is a gem I saw him spraying lube on a garage door yesterday. That's unbelievable. He have videos of him eating with his hands

What do you mean? He doesn't use silverware more plastic where I Mean he eats with his hands. Oh, that's awesome. Okay, so gonna live till he's 400 years old Is that why we're doing it? Yeah, that's part of the reason So a fork will fucking kill you. Yeah. Well, I mean, oh you need a fork. It can't I'm just so I didn't know that's crazy. You need a fight crazy. I mean, I mean not knowing that that's on me Not the other way around Holy shit. This guy's really doing it. Yeah. Yeah still bringing it

He is him at a steakhouse, oh my god, Texas Road, huh don't want to be sharing mash with that guy He's walking in barefoot so the peanuts can't slip him exactly He's picking up peanuts with his feet like I'll have that toss him up Yeah, I was about you think he's a he's probably Sure, he's grabbing sure throwing it up. Oh got your fork Don't need that That's crazy, holy shit Thank God. He's in the NFL. Love this guy. Yeah I'm telling you they show you how to fix different dishwashers, different things. Yeah. Little hacks here and there. He uses dishwashers? No, he doesn't.

This guy's a life hack artist? Yeah, that's what for real. Absolutely. Every once in a while, one of those will pop up and I'm like, holy shit. Genius. And they'll be like, did you know this? And I'm like, no. And how did I not? And then you'll see something at the very end. It's like Okay, you lost me. I shouldn't have taken you serious You know do something with straw that'll go somewhere and I'll fucking do something. I that was the worst idea I've ever seen there's some real good shit out there though. If you find it life hack wise like the chair But is on the back of your legs that you sit down not a bad idea. That's not bad at all I think just walks around it doesn't seem to be in the way at all either

You kind of got a walk with a little bit of a lean but anytime you're a little tired you want to sit down That is a good man. You do got a walk a little bit Gain a little yeah, but you can still move. Yeah, you know, but even talks about to kick it too wide kick it too excited But if you get fucking exhausted, you know what? Right there. You're right. Love that one. I don't know if barefoot It talks about to kick it too wide kick it too excited, but if you get fucking exhausted Boom right there You're right. Love that one. I don't know if barefoot frozen cold concrete Helps, but if it helps Mac it helps man Teach road Is everybody cold tubbing still? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll see that on the internet as much I kind of came and went no

It's there. Yeah, the cold tubbers have That kind of came and went. No, it's there. Yeah, the cold tubbers have just gone out. Your algorithms just changed? Everyone gets it now. No, because I used to get, I mean, Michael Chandler was all in it. He was all over it last week when his leg was the size of this table.

Oh yeah, I saw the road to recovery out of him. You see him press his leg in? That was disgusting. He was so swollen, he like put two of his fingers, he was like, watch this shit. And he see him press his leg in. That was disgusting. He was so swollen he like put two of his fingers he's like watch this shit and he kind of pushes his leg in and it looked like an inflated balloon. See that's what I'm saying. He's like a perfect fighter for UFC. Yeah, he's the best. Like has enough ability and talent to win any fight. Think he could win it. There was a chance in that last fight I thought he was gonna win. For sure. Thought he's gonna knock the guy out, but he's gonna take a beating.

So you're gonna see a lot of offensive football.. There's going to be a lot of offensive football. It's high octane. Yeah, it is a high scoring match. There is a lot of shots connected to Michael Chandler. And he just fucking walks right back into it. It's like, we love this guy. And then the recovery afterwards, he's very wide open about, like, hey, this is-

That looks terrible. That looked terrible. I mean, like to Connor's point, I mean, his three finger indent was an inch deep never seen that in my life Do you guys ever have that in that basement of billionaires you roll around with and wrestle with yeah, no, I just stay up I don't take it. You don't get anywhere. Do you thank you? I don't I don't go on the ground I don't do any jiu-jitsu. I don't do any kicks. Nope. Yeah a little bit Head the butt. No, not doing head

You're not gonna head the butt? No, not doing head the butt. Move, move. I don't know if you're trying to wear him down. You're getting a little big guy. You're not doing that? No. Head the butt? Just want to get the guy's back, but then he slips out and then you're still around

the way. See, that's why I'm not doing that. I'm just hitting pads. Boom, boom. That's how they get you. Boom, boom, boom. That's pretty good. Yeah, but then isn't there...

Boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom, duck, boom, boom, boom. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Go, but then isn't there boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom I try to tackle people too, right and then what I go over I do lift them up I pull them out and dump them and they turn they turn squirm. Yeah, and then where's your head? Right on a guy's ass. That's what you do. You got me. Thank you those punches though You imagine a cue coming at you in a bar fight like that I'm running away Jay Glazer had to experience it a couple times. Oh, yeah, glaze slept you know, didn't he? No, he didn't Oh boy, Jay Jay gets a little carried away in there. He catches some people we put there's this doctor guy He put him down. They had to like check on him to see if he was laser put the doctor done

I mean, he literally wobbled him into the wall. I'm like Here's the man to see you for you left and right hand Here's some anesthesia for you left and right hand Jay loves that loves it. Well, he's looking to feed a few more people Yeah, well, yeah cheese That doctor operate that day no way Yeah on himself, yeah doctors looking at his own scans that day and that's Jay Glazer football, okay But with that being said Can everybody be nice to Jay Glazer on on the internet, please?

Who's mean who's somebody isn't a real count, but somebody had to have done something at some point behind that account and Said some very rude things about Jay Glazer's wife and Jay Glazer quote tweeted it and then all of a sudden I missed all that. Yeah, so we would just like to say Jay we're on team Glazer love you Glaze inside scoops on Sunday still hit still hit still I wish he was around more in the sports media world though mm-hmm I'm married now he's in love I'm out of scoobage. You can't get scoobage while you're married? Not just going to show up every Sunday and just do everything I used to do all week.

I got, you know, 10s and twins. We're family men now. You see the Schefter story? Let's just say, yeah, I've been boning a couple and had to stop the break. Okay. All right. Okay. Is that what you're Yeah, yeah shifter broke News while having intercourse back whenever he was in Milwaukee. I think is what he says. Oh, yeah, I believe so He was in Milwaukee Glaser was somewhere else Jay Glazer said actually there was a a two year period where I didn't break dudes where I was, you know. I was only.

It's too busy. Yeah, I was actually, Glazer's neat. I wish we were around when Glazer was doing all day everyday stuff. Yeah. For that. And on our show, yeah. Him popping into our show, it was wood bidden.

We love you, Jay. Love you, Glazer. Does he love you, or you think he? Nah, he fucking hates my guts for sure. Oh, how come? Oh, yeah. I don't know. It's gotta be the lisp Well, he says that every single time but there's not really a lisp All right, do it again and you're I mean I could really you know do it if you wanted me to but I'm I If you're listening right now, there's no lip If you're listening right now, there's no lip Check the tape there is no lip

There's no less you can check it. I'm checking. I'm checking check tape. We're in real time Sounds like they're running back check the tape. There is no lip At the end there though, it sounds like there is on the word lisp. No lip. You guys know what a lip sounds like, right? I mean, no lip. He did get pissed about that. He did, he did. It's all good fun though.

He's been a good friend of the program. Yeah. He's a weapon. All right, who's the number one off it's a line performing from week 13? For the third straight week, the Philadelphia Eagles. Wow, it's a weapon. All right, who's the number one off it's a line performing from week 13? For the third straight week, the Philadelphia Eagles. Wow, it's getting predictable. It's getting predictable.

I mean, they're so good. And they continue to beat the snap count. Watch Jordan, my lot of jump false start here. Doesn't get called as usual. Oh, geez. That's egregious. This guy's two steps. I mean, he's two steps before the ball snap.

Doesn't matter. What? He's in the backfield, man. Good feet. Nobody saw it. All right, guys, nobody saw it. One, two, how? Yeah. That's a travel.

He's becoming the NBA. This is unbelievable. And then he comes downhill, just covers him up because he's 400 pounds. He's Canadian football league head started, got his momentum, and guess what? That's it pounds at six foot eight. Canadian Football League, Ted started got his momentum and guess what? That's it. Roe Kwon. That's it. That is it. And then there he goes. There he goes ladies and gents. That is... I have some stats on him, right? Don't I remember Hembo sent him over to you? God he's so good. So good. The finisher. Most people get tackled at the 10 right there. He always turns those into touchdowns. Okay

So good to finish most people get tackled at the 10 right there. He always turns those into touchdown. Okay Nick sir, Iani is 44 and 19 the best career record by any head coach since John Madden pretty good Do we trust? No, well now today it's what's gonna happen to sir. Iani if they lose the first round play Oh, of course now it's now we got a turn to oh, it's good now, but what happens if you're having a huge or something? They just don't like him. No. Yeah, bingo, oh, he's good now, but what happens if he hits the future or something? Terrible. Later. They just don't like him. No. Yeah, bingo.

Why? Because he's bald? He's not even bald anymore. What's wrong with being bald? Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. You tell me. It's still negative Sirianni hit lines.

Now it's future negative. Now it's future negative. Yeah. We got past it. We did too, because then there was an apology. Remember, there was a burial every day. Yeah. Winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning there was a burial every day yeah winning winning winning winning winning winning winning burial barrel barrel we just like then it was weakest link trust who's a

liability how could we get this in ba ba ba ba ba then there's Zio an apology do we okay I wish I appreciated I appreciate that was like yeah hey maybe we're too hard and now it's like what happens when they lose this thing so let's talk about future negative times so we can bury this fucking guy. They just don't like I think it's because he's different obviously. Yeah. And also that's a good job for a lot of people to have. Yes. A lot of people want that job. Out of 63 games his team has lost by more than one possession only 10 times.

16% of the time. I don't know if that's good or not. That is the step. Pretty good. Pretty good. The only coaches to win more games since 2021 are Andy Reid in Sean McDermott Is that good? Those guys are right. Sirianni has won two to playoff games both in the 2022 season Mike Taumann has won two playoff games in a previous eight seat Jesus. I didn't know that this is my first time This is my first time ready to refresh off of hard knocks. I do not John Harbaugh has two playoff games in uh, two two playoff wins in previous nine seasons Okay, this season the eagles have beaten jordan love joe burrow matthew stafford and the marjaxon

Most touchdowns since 2022 last three seasons. Uh, Josh allen has the most 112 patrick mahomes has the third most of 92 who is the second most Jalen hurts at 99 Eagles offense during his tenure and Nick Siriannis number three in the red zone number three on third down number three on fourth down It's not bad does this guy suck as a coach is he a big dumb dipshit or is he okay? Maybe he's pretty good How about sir Iani in the face of it all? And and getting shake one in the middle of us all. The coordinator turnover like we know how important that is. He's lost. He's had to have what three different sets of coordinators now.

Yeah. When you talk about O-line, D-line, Howie. Shaquan leads all running backs in untouched runs. 15 of them. Damn. 360 yards and 7 touchdowns on those carries. Both lead the NFL as well. Shaquan has 1 and eighty four yards before contact

What that's insane. You talk about this offensive line here unbelievable 277 more than any other player obviously Derek Henry is second Saquon is averaging four point four yards before contact per rush Most by any running back in the last ten seasons No Saquon is on pace to become the only player in the last 30 years to average 40 rush yards per game in the fourth quarter. Saquon is on pace to become the only player in the last 30 years to average 80 rush yards per game after halftime. Geez Louise. So they only get better as they go on. And then RYOE.

Rush yards. Over expected? Wow. Come on. This is a stat. The difference between actual rushing yards and expected rushing yards on an individual player series of plays.

Saquon has 452 rushing yards over expected already, the most by running back in a season since NextGen began tracking this particular stat in 2018 Next gen knows yeah, they do next chances. Holy shit. It should have been about four or five yard or it turned into 1020 Why it's 16 15 yard day me a break. That's that stupid I was gonna say one of my is that cool rid of that one all the other ones unbelievable Yeah, you're a lot of another another stat. Here's another stat. Okay He's on pace to break the all-time

Rushing single-season record ran by Eric Dixon. Yes. Yes. He is he can get it. It's attainable Oh now 17 game season. Yeah 16 game season a lot of conversation about all that only has a couple games off If he wants to get it out, right? I don't know if he's on pace to get it with a game early. I don't know I don't know. Yeah, it'll be just like the Barry Sanders thing with G&T right now Like what's a little after people will still say like don't forget Barry did this in 11 games They'll say like Dickerson only did this in 16 games like Adam Vinatieri for instance all-time leading scorer Yeah, 16 game era, you know, cuz they only count regular season games

So at some point somebody's gonna come get him and then extra game every single season is gonna help I hope they do put an asterisk like one less game per season for the 25 seasons He played which if you see what's happening with Tucker You think back to Vinatieri and you just go How'd that old fucker do it? Yeah, with Vinny too, I hope they also say like, and then this is his total points when you add in his post season.

Oh yeah, the most important points. The playoff points that don't count. This is actually what he does. Shout out to Philadelphia Eagles offensive line. Once again, reigning supreme over the Buffalo Beals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Washington Commanders and the Detroit Lions. Congrats to all five groups being recognized in the trenches as the top five performing airlines. Thank you, AQ.

Ladies and gentlemen, let's get smarter on the way out of here on this beautiful Watt Wednesday. Let's go everything DB. Good D, Bad D with our friend Darius J. Butler. Let's get to the good D from week 13. It starts with the Chargers best scoring defense still in the NFL. Speaking of still, Tarheed still fifth round Rookie coming in out of Maryland playing this Jesse mentor defense now. This is covered three This is number one of his two interceptions and this is all on him in my pain running back to the beginning You got covered three on a defensive backfield So you got obviously deep third down in the bottom deep third in the middle and then deep third up top but still it's a two by two set but you

got a cut receiver at the bottom and it tight in obviously those two guys just staying for protection so you really only have a two-man route up top the deep free safety does a good job leaning to that side where the two receivers are and then just watch still his vision is obviously running with number one and seeing the number two receiver almost through that number one receiver, baiting Kirk Cousins, I think, into this throw. As soon as he kind of breaks that egg, commits to that throw with intention,

that ball's back, he's coming out, vision's back, jumps in front of receiver, makes a big time play on the football. Just a great, great, heady play from a rookie cornerback who's been having a great, great season so far. Look at this, he plays inside, heady play from a rookie cornerback who's been having a great, great season so far. Look at this. He plays inside, he can play outside, great vision through the number one receiver to Drake London and breaks off of him and picks his ball up. This is a nasty, nasty play. Can't be so much fun. Give me that. What I do? Oh yeah. Does the safety tell him to go on the...

So if you're running back back to the very very beginning? I'm not sure what the communication is, but if you look at number seven here immediately. He's telling him Hey, I think he's telling me he thinks 34 is coming under but he's also telling that deep safety to kind of shove over Push over to the speed as a free safety You always want to lead lean to where the most speed is you have two extended receivers up top? That's where you wanna send your help with the zone droppers underneath. That corner back, now you gotta have some balls

to drop that number one wide receiver. You gotta really trust that Kirk Cousins throwing his football. And also trust your free safety to get over top, which he does. So coming off that ball, great, great play once again. And cover three, so this is built coverage and play call wise from the offense

to be a successful play for the offense But this is kind of a player kind of taking those exit nose off the page using his instincts and ball skills to make a big Time play that's just like classic clear out mm-hmm clear Open yeah jump cuz on paper. He's supposed to run with that guy the corner He's supposed to continue to run with that deep post. What a play. Alright let's go back to him. Great play and now this is a play kind of you pause it here not just on Tarheap still but on the defense so fourth and five a lot of times offense is gonna expect man-to-man coverage in this situation so Jesse Minter's defense shows man-to-man almost like a cover

zero and then on a snap they're gonna drop out to a cover to this corner back at the bottom of the screen He's gonna go to the deep half the safety up top He's gonna go to his deep half and then tarheed still is gonna get to that flat Opens up once again reads the intention of the quarterback playing the sticks You see Kirk almost kind of hesitate not throw it ends up throwing it and if you are late or off target With an out breaking route in the National Football League more times than not This is what's gonna happen. They showed man. It was zone eyes on quarterback out route gonna get jumped Bob especially if it's like a duck cuz I think he like you said he saw yeah. Yeah, he saw his ah

Fourth and five throwing at the sticks Anticipating that as a defense, but you see a lot of guys drop that that play in the work like both of these interceptions He he's almost waiting for the ball like he beats the receiver to this pot He beats the ball to the spot so that lets you know he's anticipating Obviously he's well coached, but you got to have a lot of confidence out There's a young corner to jump on and then finish these plays with the ball so great ball skill all season long This defense has been great and that player individually has been great. Tarheem is still out of Maryland. Alright, let's go to the third good D shall we?

Third one now they gave up a ton of yards especially to Judy but late in the game they made huge, huge play early and late in the game. Once again another pick six from Jaquan McMillan in the slot. One of my favorite slot defenders anticipating this route and once again out routes. You got to be on time, you gotta be on target, you gotta throw it to a place where my receiver's gonna catch it, or it's gonna hit an assistant coach on the sideline. Great job by the milling, catching it,

falling flat on his back, and then a lot of young players, he's played some years in this league now, but a lot of young rookie players will probably not even know or not remember that he can get up and finish this play. So getting up, kinda putting a nail in the coffin against the Browns here big time big time play he had like I want to say three four plays on the football in this game and this is obviously his biggest and best one. Veteran quarter nose a got

a cover. Yeah yeah. Secure that catch. Yep. Smart. Got a cover. That's Brent. Boom. And then Jameis he still had a chance to cover. What a heartbreaker for Browns. Watch the coaches tell him to tag him down. Yep. See if that angle. Definitely a coaching point for the receivers which you know Morris played in this league you know you got to tag the guy down on the ground didn't touch him.

Gotta tag him down the ground after the pick. It's a hard fall. Get up pop up and get to the paint, baby. Man, what an athlete. That guy right there, that coach. Son of a. It's a big time play. Jaw dropped.

Big time play. You gotta be careful on those out breaking routes. God, his helmet almost fell. Oh yeah. That's a hell of a bump. All right, let's go to a dog, shall we? Overshown, He's been great. He's come along more and more this year.

This is him on the blitz coming off the edge, just absolutely blowing up in this play. You talk about a game record. He is becoming that guy outside of microparts on his defense. Read the play. Oh, geez. Knocks the running back off, taps the ball up in the air. We talk about tips and overthrows.

Create your own tips and overthrows. He goes, obviously just big dog just running back taps the ball up picks it off runs it back Yeah, get out of the way little fella give me that drew Cribbit like that's an unbelievable last one of those you dream. You probably make this play one time in your lifetime on any level of football. It's a big time game, big time play on Thanksgiving for the Dallas Cowboys, who are still alive, still fighting. You saw Dak talk about him wanting his coach back.

So it's interesting to see. Four, that's some little league. That's swag. That is swag, good swag. Yeah, really, really, so it's like, I think he has a flag hanging out here as well. I mean, this is our towel hanging. I mean, that's good swag. Yeah, really really so it's like I think he has a flag hanging out here as well I mean, this is our towel hanging. I mean, that's good swag He's got the socks to not all of them haven't he's got the socks that have the stripes on them as well But not everyone has him

Okay See there is some stripes back here, but he has him because he's got the double double stripe Yeah, some of the d lineman had him yeah i got it it was cool it looks cool that is spatted aj he looks so cool he looks awesome i love that spat too i like anytime the four sweat bands come out that's awesome good for over showing all right and what do we have here time play then just one bad d play from thanksgiving as well you got to read and this in the at the number three position you pause it here This is a play with vet. You typically see from veteran quarterbacks

I know you played with Brady for a while play with him if it was ever two over three Aaron Rodgers made this play famous he had this I feel like optional almost every play You got one two three wide receivers and really only two Defenders kind of within the area you obviously have the deep safety there But nine times out of ten this is a third and two you have a run play called and these receivers know at any point I could just flick this ball out to that number three receiver and number one and number two you block as that Defender out here is a cornerback You got a hole the edge at minimum and if you do shoot it and try to go inside,

you gotta get vertical immediately and still try to keep that edge and make this tackle. If you ever go inside like this, you just give up that clean edge to the receiver and you turn this into a touchdown. You can probably salvage this a little bit, make it a three, four, maybe five yard gain, but once you take that chance to go inside

and lose that leverage, you make it a touchdown. But this is what you see a lot especially with veteran players because it's a run play But at the same time I got numbers out there. Just get it to one of my guys in space This is better than a run play on the entire these guys think it's a run, right? Oh, it's a run a cue could tell you better how they even the offensive line are thinking it's a run So they're they have no idea this is gonna get thrown So they're literally running the football and then it's just a signal so like with us It was like whatever we called it you signal out to the receiver and we know block block quick out go

Boom, that's that's good offense. Good offense Pushton bad defense very bad What a show today. I feel like we did good today. Good program. Covered a lot of stuff today. Yeah. Did you see Kirk Herbst?

She got a letter from the President of the United States. He did. Yeah. About Ben. Joe Biden. President Joe Biden, yeah. Sent Kirk a letter? Really?

Yeah, it wasn't handwritten, but it was signed autographed at the bottom. Wow. He typed it. Trevor Lawrence has just been sent to IR, breaking news here. How many games left in the season? Five. Five? IR is what, four at least? It's easy.

He's done this year. Yeah, that's what Schefter kind of alluded to Monday. Why would you, he said, after the lower. Wow. Probably get a shoulder fix now too. He'll up for a run next year. Man. He's got a kid too. Congrats to him, fatherhood changes you.

Paternity. Craziness, your life's about to be wild. Life buds is about to happen in the first three weeks, four weeks of that child's life. Good luck out there. Obviously pulling for it. He needs to play good football at some point. Yeah. Or it's gonna be Good luck out there. Obviously pulling for it. He needs to play good football at some point. Yeah. Or it's going to be real loud. Yes. You know? Yeah, for sure. Because

rightfully so. They've been talking about him like the same way they talked about like John Elway, Andrew Luck. Like all the way through elite 11 high school, college at Clemson, he comes in for senior. Whose quarterback he comes in for senior whose quarterback he comes in for DJ Ui Ungle away. No, no, no, it's Sean. No, there's somebody in the boat. I Forget I remember the day he went in at Clonson. Yeah, I'm I thought it was no club Nick was Yeah, who we uncle of it. I forget who it was Anyways when he went in I happened to be watching and they started talking about this kid and they're like, this is the one. From like 10 years old, 10 years on, he was the guy.

They kind of promo on him like they've been waiting for him to play. And it was like, this is the guy. And then a Clemson, he is great. Their teams are phenomenal. Kelly Bryan was the quarterback you went in for. Oh yeah. So Kelly Bryan was quarterback. He gets hurt or something happens.

Transferred to Mizzou. Yeah, he ends up transferring at the end of the year because then Trevor just becomes the guy or whatever. But I remember watching whenever he went in, in the way the commentators, I don't remember who, it might have been Herbie. I'm not 100% sure. But the way it was being talked about was like,

ladies and gentlemen, the fucking next one is here. And he had that hair obviously and Everything about him was just like so professional and mature. He never really showed any emotion. He was like a businessman It was like wow, this is the guy that obviously number one overall pick urban Meyer situation happens down there Jacksonville It doesn't work out show some promise though. He's gonna be a guy. He's the guy He's gonna be a guy then he gets his massive paycheck and then still like like at some point he's gonna have to I haven't lost faith But I'm just saying at some point he's gonna have to win or they're gonna be they're gonna talk about the hype verse The production NFL wise and I don't think it's fair. I'm just telling you that's reality definitely for you

Yeah, I mean he's Chloe. He's played closer to like Daniel Jones than he has Yeah, I mean he's close he's played closer to like Daniel Jones then he has John Elway or any of those guys like Daniel Jones get shit on because he's in New York Like if you can you imagine what they'd be saying about Trevor Lawrence if he played for the guys Yeah, yeah, yeah, 40 minutes just got paid. Yeah And that's just reality of the business. Yeah, that's right. All those guys are probably so pumped about the Deshaun deal I don't think anyone's happier about that than them Not the Sean deal is no matter what hey, it's not that bad could be worse Cleveland fans miss said just go ahead

Just get just eat it hundred some million and dead cap over the next two years. I think and that the number we saw It would yeah be split with like 75 next year and then like 45 or 50 the year after Mmm crazy Sean Payton took an 83 million dollar cap it and he's doing what he's doing right now So you got other teams looking around good. It's possible. We made a mistake who cares. Let's move on We don't have as much out here who cares who gives a fuck just get guys on the field Russell Wilson doing what he's doing is so much fun to watch crushing. He was good on hard knocks I think tone I think he was good on hard knocks last night always himself Yeah, he was I enjoyed when he was either calling to play and then he started doing a motivational speech in the huddle in the

O-line called him out like what the hell are you doing? That was awesome felt like they were tight Yeah, you want to come out here tone. I will brother Go work over there and hammer. I didn't TV was off Yeah, you want to come out here tone? I will brother Go work over there and hammer. I didn't realize tv was off Yeah, very much though You're hosting the adam scherfford podcast from over there, yeah You're doing a good job with that. Thank you. How is that being co-host with adam scherfford the best? Is that a little different than this show for sure? But you know, uh, what do you mean same? We don't be pretty much the same. We don't necessarily get into the same topics That we get into on this show

No, we do we do but some of the some of the other stuff You know that we that we talk about have fun with we don't really cover on that. I'm chef for podcast like Michigan We did talk about Michigan on the most recent show. Yeah, what did they do? What do you mean? Oh, they beat Ohio State then they fired their offense coordinator. Correct. Geez. God, Ohio State just keeps the hits coming They might have done that just to dunk on what they might told the QB coach. Hey, you're doing a great job You call the great game, but no fucking funny. This would be if we fire you now that we beat Ohio State Sorry beat Ohio State? Sorry. Beat Ohio State and not go enough to continue to be on the team, though.

Just need to know that. I'm excited to see what they do with the flag planting stuff, you know, because that first round of playoffs, if an away team comes in and wins in the first round of playoffs. Oh, they're going to build a force field around the middle of the field. You know that. You think they're going to have force field around the middle of the field. You know that you think they're gonna have arms behind back Stance like this soon as games over run Don't touch it. I don't even think about fucking I thought her she said they're all getting suspended the guys who were he tweeted that

He thought that would be a viable punishment so that people understand we can't be doing this. Yeah, all of them I'll do it. I don't know how. I think some teams want to been able to field a team. Sure. But I think what he was saying is we need an episode, but we need an episode. That's one option. Win a game.

No, I'm just saying that's pretty great. Public execution. Well, now, yeah, I was going to say now. I mean, that's how some people people are talking Kirk can ask Joe now Hey, what would you do? Mr. President? Does Kenny pen pal back? I wonder If it sent to you you get to send back now Yeah, Kirk right what right a good one up right a good one. I got some thoughts, too

I think we all could probably add some things in for sure. All right, we got some questions, too See if you'll see if you'll answer some questions yeah send some questions over questions especially now about New York City that was crazy holy fuck yeah walking down the street going to work I'm a CEO of health insurance a good morning but 6 at 45 I'm pretty chipper got a little coffee got a little workout in off through my thing I'm 50 some years old walking down a sidewalk in New York City No big deal. How we doing somebody standing on a wall right over here on their phone good to see you the city's alive Have a good day. Hey good to see you. I'm gonna scar right here

And then somebody just walks out with a silencer with a go with a hoodie on the mask like super under control as well as he Did it? Yeah Fashion and just alright, and we go He's still they still haven't caught the dude. And they won't. Yeah, he's gone. That guy's gone. They're going to have to do the bank.

That's kind of a movie, what happened there, from what I've seen, from the entire, that was very planned, very well executed, I think, if they don't catch this guy. And also very scary, yeah, to think about. Terrifying, yeah. Hope everybody's okay out there. Keep eyes on your six. Yeah, and into the sky Never know could be any day now and do lips on your cheeks. That's right

You're about to dingle bows. Yeah for your dingleberries Say goodbye be a friend tell friends have a nice might change your life. We're in this thing together T a cue great work this week They work you go. Hey,. Good luck doing giveaway or what? Sure All right. I mean give you a week. I need a good omen for We are Penn State universe stuff. I'm just saying All right one ball

You hit it. You got James Franklin burger a Q Neither to say don't worry about it. Yeah. We looked it up, we looked up, remember it's on a rye. Oh yeah, it looks like shit. Yeah, it's like the worst burger of all time. Yeah. For about a week or so. Okay, we didn't bring it up earlier.

Veggies, patties. What do you wanna do, basketball? One shot? One shot. You don't even know if you're gonna make it to the hoop. No, I don't. But you're gonna make it. I'm gonna make it.

Oh! Dude, it's football season. Oh! Oh, oh, we, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh that because what if it's swish and if it's swish we'll still count it okay but the bank will be open for 30 people and they'll have 500 bucks in it because of you and also the Penn State Nittany Lions will beat the Oregon Ducks this weekend in a Big Ten Championship. Whoa. Right here in the lighthouse. A.Q. Shipley one shot the pressure's on. Hall of Famer in high school at basketball. Penn State legend pressure on. Skull and the dogs. He didn't kick his little feet. Yeah, he didn't even look. I didn't even watch the shot.

Scoot dogs. Scoot dogs. Squat. I would have caught you. He didn't even watch his shot AQ. Let her rip. Sometimes you just need to activate the valley.

Rip, honey. Ooh. Oh! Oh! Oh! Holy shit! Holy shit! Yeah.

Wow. That was good from the head. Wow. Let it rip, homie. Holy hell. 30 people, $500. Don't know about the game, but I know 30 people are going to be $500 richer during this home season.

Wow. We are. Penn State. We richer during this whole wow wow we are Penn State we are Penn State we are getting out of here be a friend tell a friend something nice It might change their life when they sing together team on me team on three one two three