The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 126 - Friday Night SmackDown, College Gameday, & Joe Buck Story Time

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

On today’s show, Pat recaps his insane weekend starting with commentating SmackDown Live! on FOX on Friday night which included being lucky enough to have Jim Irsay lend him his private jet so that he could get to Buffalo in time for the show, and ending with Pat heading to Memphis to be on College Gameday on Beale St. Pat and the boys also recap everything that happened this weekend in the NFL including the Steelers pulling out an impressive win over the Colts in Pittsburgh, the Seahawks starting to come on strong and why no one is really talking about them, Lamar Jackson looking incredibly against the Patriots on Sunday night, DeShaun Watson and Stefon Diggs marketing Popeye’s, and everything else that was important around the league. Pat also breaks down Vinny’s game winning kick opportunity and why it was an operational failure and not necessarily all Vinny’s fault, and breaks down the proper way to hold the football on a field goal attempt and what the holder, long snapper, and kicker’s individual responsibilities are. Also joining the show is arguably the greatest sportscaster in the business. You’ve heard him call the Super Bowl, World Series, and US Open, consummate professional and hilarious human, Joe Buck. Joe and Pat discuss his thoughts on a lot of the good team’s in the NFL laying an egg this past weekend, why people hate him and where he thinks that comes from, his thoughts on the NFL so far this season and his feelings on all the issues with the referees, whether or not he appreciates tanking in the NFL and if he thinks it will be a viable option moving forward, and what the most memorable moment from his career has been thus far (1:06:40-1:21:56). Don’t forget to watch this week’s vlog recapping Pat’s entire week at www.youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow Today’s a fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Made no sense to me. Had no idea it was happening. I flew home from Waco, Texas on Thursday night football, the West Virginia-Baylor game, which was a very good game. Came down to the end. Ugly football game, but a good football game. Fly home. Got a chance to go down to Memphis the next day for college game day.

So I was going to do the show from Indianapolis. I was going to nap for a couple hours, fly down to Memphis, go through the entire show for Saturday. I'm excited to be back. Let's have fun on Beale Street, hyping up college football all morning. At 1.42, while we were waiting for a pizza company to deliver to the office that we had been waiting for an hour and 45 minutes for, the only reason why I was still at the office was for this food.

I was starving. I get a text from a 1-triple-H. You home? Question mark. And I had heard the news about what happened with their planes breaking down in Saudi Arabia and all of their talent, commentators, producers, everything basically being stuck in the Middle East due to a plane malfunction.

The internet was abuzz about this. I get a you home text from Triple H and I look at it and I go, oh damn. I go, yes, I am home. I get a phone call from him immediately. He goes, hey, have you heard about what happened over in Saudi Arabia with their planes? I'm like, I absolutely have. He was like, I haven't pitched this to Vince McMahon yet, but if you were to come in and do some commentary

and kind of just let you do your thing, would you be up for it tonight in Buffalo? Would you be able to get to Buffalo? I said, absolutely. He said, okay, I'll get back to you. So I hang up. Now, I have no way of getting to Buffalo. I have a plane taking me to Memphis like five hours from now,

but that plane was in Florida because I last minute scheduled it to get to Memphis because I didn't know I was going to be on game day. So I text said plane, I go, hey, is there any way you guys can get me to Buffalo by 6 o'clock tonight? They go, no way. Plane's in Florida. So I call another plane company. I started calling around plane

companies. I looked at commercial flights. Is there any flight that can get me from Indianapolis to Buffalo in time for this SmackDown Fox debut lifelong dream event? No. So I went deep into the playbook. Page 140

of the playbook that nobody opens, nobody sees. Wiped the dust off and I threw a Hail Mary to Pete Ward, who's the COO of the Indianapolis Colts. I go, Pete, I would never ask for anything. I get a phone call back from Pete. He goes, you never ask for anything, actually. What do you want? To what do I owe this communication, says Pete Ward. I said, well, here's the story. Told him the whole story about Saudi Arabia. Said I have an opportunity to call SmackDown tonight. Mr. H said if I get there, by the way, at this point, did not know if it was 100% sure

or not. Right. Did not know if this was definitely going to happen, but I have to get the wheels in motion so I can get there if it does happen. I go, is there any way Jim Hersey would lend me a plane to get there and then get to Memphis? And Pete goes, oh, great question. I'll call you back. I'm like, you got it.

So his immediate positive reaction was like, oh, maybe we got a shot here. So then he call you back. I'm like, you got it. So his immediate positive reaction was like, oh, maybe we got a shot here. So then he calls me back. He goes, Jim says, pack your bags, brother. I'd assume. He said, you got a plane. Where do you need to go? I said, well, I need to get from here to Buffalo and then Buffalo to Memphis for college game day. He goes, pack your bags. What time are you taking off? I'm like, still at this point, I don't know if I'm definitely in the show. So I got Jim Hersey's plane literally on standby, but I have no idea if I'm actually in the show. So 15 minutes later, I get a text from Hunter that says, let's go. And I'm like,

my man. So I text Pete. I'm like, I need like 30, 45 minutes. Is that good? He's like, got it. They get a flight attendant for us. Two pilots. We had steaks on the plane. Got on his G4. Me, Foxy, and Zito are sitting on his G4 with direct TV. Better direct TV on his plane than it was at my house.

I was watching the Niners-Cardinals game, flying up to Buffalo. I land like an hour and 45 minutes before the show starts. Nobody there. Nobody. Everybody's stuck in transit. I see Mr. H. He's talking to Brock Lesnar. So as soon as I turn in, Triple H stands up.

He cuts off his conversation with Brock. I'm like, oh, no. I don't want to make that guy mad. So I go over to Brock immediately, shake his mitt. Are you kidding me? That thing engulfed my arm all the way up to the middle of my forearm. Massive ham hock. Massive, massive ham hocks there.

I go, nice to meet you, sir. You're a legend. He goes, you too. And I was like, well, you said it. And I just walk away. Talk to Mr. H. I go, what's the plan? He goes, we got a good one for you.

I'm like, all right. I get a text from Michael Cole. He's like, have you heard the plan yet? I'm like, no. He's like, we got a good one for you. Nobody told me the plan still. We're like an hour before the show. I get told the plan.

And then we immediately go into Vince McMahon's office. I'm wearing a sleeveless hoodie and jorts. I had a sport coat and a button-down, just in case what happened at WrestleMania happens here. Just in case I was getting kicked out. Vince McMahon still got his fastball, by the way. Still got his fastball in the meeting. Still sending zingers out there.

Runs through the entire thing. About an hour before the show, I go out there at about 8.30, last hour and a half, doing commentary with Tom Phillips and Renee Young, and I had the time of my life out there. When I say I had a blast, I mean I had a blast. The NXT brand, which is the brand I work for, that Triple H runs, there's Raw, there's SmackDown, there's NXT. Basically, the NXT superstars took over Friday Night SmackDown because there was nobody there.

So we kind of made it a show about NXT and NXT TakeOver for Survivor Series. And I had a blast. I'm friends with basically everybody there. They kind of let me do my thing. And Vince McMahon was in my ear a couple times. And I think I even heard him laugh once. Stephanie McMahon was in my ear a couple times, and I think I even heard him laugh once. Stephanie McMahon was in my ear a couple times. I think I even heard her laugh once.

It was a success, and I had a blast, and it all came to be within five hours. And Jim Irsay, honestly, you've given me a lot, a lot, too much. You grossly overpaid me to kick balls. To drop your G4 just like that for me to do that is so cool i don't know how many other owners would do that i don't know how many other people would be that lucky but for me i made a bunch of yeah i could do that yeah i could do that yeah i could do that and had no idea if yeah i could do that and then it all came together very last minute and i had a great time

and you created the greatest gift of all time by the way stephanie mcmahon waving and blowing a kiss to triple h who's standing right in front of me and then me waving back. I didn't know if they caught it. I knew it was going to be a magical moment. It looked like your first day of school saying bye like your parents. It was a dream, man. The fact that that came together as quick as it did a lot of brilliance up there.

Some are saying that's the greatest SmackDown in the history of SmackDowns. Well, the ratings indicate that it may have been. The ratings were up. Your boy had a good time, man. There's no way I had any coos in the booth, though. I was doing things you're not supposed to do. In the middle of promos, I'd be like, hmm. Like, while people are talking, hmm.

See, but that's why, like, you know, granted, you're my boss, but I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass. Anyone who would watch that would tell, like, that enhances what you're watching. Like, it's different than anything else you're used to seeing, which is why you put the asses in the seats, which is why people want to watch that stuff. Yeah, some people hate me. This is the way it goes. And to them, I say, I probably hate you too.

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putting the ball through the uprights so walking into into that 40-some yard of there to win the game, I was a little bit torn. First, I thought it's Heinz Field. They deferred in the first half, so they got the ball in the second half, so they didn't get to pick which direction they wanted in the fourth quarter. So he's probably going into the windiest area, which can be tough. But then I thought back to myself, this is Adam Vinatieri. This is a minute left in the game to win the game. This dude's cold as ice.

Willing to sacrifice all love. The love has nothing to do with it other than my love of winning. And when he walked on that field, one minute left, I had the back of my mind saying, he hadn't hit the ball that clean today. He's kicking in a very tough stadium on an end that is obviously tougher than the other end because he didn't get to select. But then on the other side, it was like, yeah, but this dude is the dude. This is the most clutch dude in the history of sports. He goes out there. I'm standing right behind him. The video has been seen by millions of people

on the internet already. And as soon as that ball gets held by Rigoberto Sanchez, incredible punter, and I assume he's a very good holder. I haven't looked that much. Good holder. As soon as that ball gets placed

and I see the laces staring Adam Vinatieri directly in the snozz, directly in his eyes. I knew we were in a bad spot, because not only is he already battling the wind and the conditions and the fact that he hadn't been hitting the ball clean all day, now he's got to battle against science. And the science says this, where the laces are is where the leather comes together. You see, where the leather comes together and the laces are there.

So when you kick the ball on the other side, it's much firmer because it's been pulled tight. And the way a bat hits a baseball, how it pops off, and how a driver hits a golf ball, how it pops off, is how you want your foot to be with a football. It just kind of pops off. Yes, every time you kick, because the football has air inside of it, it will bend around your foot a little bit and then slingshot off. But when you're hitting the laces side, you kick, because the football has air inside of it, it will bend around your foot a little bit and then slingshot

off. But when you're hitting the laces side, you see, because that's where everything's coming together, it is naturally scientifically going to be the softest part of the ball. So whenever you hit that, the ball come... No, not combust.

Compresses? Compress. There it is. That'll be easy. The ball compresses even more. It wraps around the foot. It sticks on your foot. So when you're as a righty, you pull off to the right, then it slingshots off. That's why any time you see somebody hit a laces back ball, it's normally going to be a pull because it stays on your foot longer.

How do you make the kick? Great question. Quick adjustment. Open your hips. Hit the do you make the kick? Great question. Quick adjustment. Open your hips. Hit the ball out to the right a little bit if you see it in time. It is a very difficult thing. How else do you change it? Well, the snapper and the holder have to be at the same distance they always are.

In the middle of the field can be a little difficult. The laces, though, and this is something that Finkel, Marino, Einhorn, Pet Detective really shaped our culture into thinking. But nowadays in football, maybe back then, but nowadays in football, the laces are 100% the snapper's job. That is what the long snapper gets judged upon. Some of these long snappers are so damn good. They can cover kicks well. They can block well. And when they snap on field goals, the laces are supposed to be all the way out.

Some of these snappers are making millions of dollars a year to do this. It is so vital to the process. What has happened in the field goal kicking game is everything has gotten quicker as the athletes who have been trying to block kicks have gotten better. So now the entire operation is under 1.25 seconds, 1.3 seconds, from the moment the ball moves to the moment the time is kicked. The snapper's job is to snap it, have the laces facing in a forward way, hit it right in the hands, and then block. And the holder's job is to put it down. Your first thought is make sure you get it

on the right spot because everything comes down to inches. Then you have to get the right lean, and then laces is the last thing that you think about. But the only thing you're supposed to do with laces is correct any little error that the long snapper had. When it's all the way back here and he spun it a little bit even back towards Vinny because that's a no man's land

there where your hands can't feel it and your eyes can't see it. You kind of panic a little bit. But when it's all the way back there and you're trying to spin it all the way around, with how quick these kicks are going, kicking a spinning ball is even worse than kicking Lace's ball. So there's a lot that goes into this, where everybody's like, oh, well, even with the Laces, you should have done this. The holders should have done this.

It was an operational failure. From snap, to hold hold to kick. Could all of them corrected each other? Yes, they could have. But all these things are happening so fast because of how fast the game is. A lot of people mention that Vinatieri Chili dipped it. He hit behind the ball. And if you're

utilizing golf for your reference, that would make sense. Because if you duff your club or your iron, it's going to slow down your swing and mess up the shot. In football, kickers hit behind the ball all the time, especially Vinatieri. I said every time on Get Up, let's not argue every time. I shouldn't have said in absolutes, but on a very regular occasion, when you're holding

for Adam Vinatieri, your entire left side of your body will be filled with sand, and if you're on astro turf or that sport turf black rubber from the tires that are in there that's just a part of the thing that only happens from hitting beforehand it is a normal normal thing for kickers to do and sometimes it even helps out the kicker because it flattens out their foot a little bit so you combine all these things not hitting the ball clean all day, so needed a good and perfect operation, seeing straight laces, Rigoberto Sanchez moving the laces into his eyes to distract him a little bit, and also pulling it because of the slingshot and the

wind probably in that area. It was just a recipe for disaster that they all could have got better. And Vinny, whenever he makes the kick, it all sits on his shoulders. You don't hear about the operation. And when he misses a kick, it should all sit on his shoulders, I guess. But there's a lot more that goes into it than just Vinatieri kicking. He's missed a lot of kicks this year. I would argue that some of his kicks have been flat-out ugly.

That one yesterday, absolutely the case. It's very difficult, though, whenever you hit laces. You have to adjust quickly and do that. His last miss, though, a guy was standing directly in front of him, literally directly in front of him, so he could try to bend it. He didn't do that. A couple other times, there's been ball moving while he's kicking. I mean, he has not had a great year by any means, but yesterday, the operation didn't do him any favors, and I'd assume they'd bounce back because Luke Rhodes and Rigoberto Sanchez, two of the best at what they do.

But every once in a while, you're just off on something. And when you're off on something that is supposed to happen in 1.25 seconds, it all gets magnified. It's just the way it goes. That's why our business is a tough one, and that's why you've got to move forward. And I think Rego and Rambo, which is Luke Rhodes' nickname, will move forward. And I think Vinatieri will as well and be better next time.

But this is a game they shouldn't have lost going into it. Once that they lost, everybody's like, yeah, okay. The refs weren't really helping either team. Back up, back up, back up, quarterback in. I think the Colts are still okay. And they got a hot Dolphins team

they got to play against next week. So they got to get over it rather quickly. Yeah, it's pretty in-depth there. know and a lot of people say well how does the snapper control the laces well it is the snapper's job to snap the same exact ball every single time he's literally being judged on his consistency his he's being judged on his ability to repeat the same snap every single time the holder's job is to line up the same exact distance away. So every single time it rotates the same exact amount of times, and when the holder catches it,

the ball and its laces should be in an area where it's very easy for the holder to put down and straighten up perfectly. It wasn't always this way. Back in the day, it was not this way. But back in the day, there wasn't just long snappers. Usually it was tight ends at long snap, or D-ends at long snap, or linebackers at long snap. Now it was not this way. But back in the day, there wasn't just long snappers. Usually it was tight ends at long snap or DNs at long snap or linebackers at long snap. Now it's its own position.

Now these guys are making millions of dollars. And now they are being judged on lace placement. That's just a factual statement. Back in the day, maybe Finkel, Einhorn, Marino. It wasn't the case then. So I guess Finkel does have a gripe with Marino for not getting the laces all the way around but if that movie was to be shot now it would be 100 on the long snapper and anybody who knows football knows that anybody who knows special teams knows that it's not like that in high school i don't even think it's like that in college but in college and high school those

snappers aren't making a million dollars to do what they're doing that's the difference between being a pro and being someone that just does a job on the side. So I probably pissed off a lot of long snappers because I kind of gave up their little secret there that they kind of got by for a long time, by the way. Holders have taken a blame for the laces for a long time. And by the way, holders can help. Holders are asked to help.

That's what teammates do, by the way, is you pick up for the other person. But the duty of the laces is the snapper's job.'s one of their jobs the holder is to get it on the right spot get it on the right lean and perfect the laces because now kicks are getting off in 1.25 seconds back in the day it was like 1.4 1.5 you had a little bit more time to move the ball now everything happens at such a rapid rate that's why you see punters holding instead of quarterbacks because you get a chance to work with it more.

You get a chance to work with the snapper more. Quarterbacks can't do that because they have actual drills to do. So it's a whole evolution of the old special teams world and it truly is an operation

that is in the way of a kicker making a kick. And I knew that while I was holding. I'm only here to fuck it up. I am only here, I am touching this ball for probably 0.6 seconds. Probably 0.6 seconds that ball is in my hand.

I have to get it down, get it leaned, get the laces perfected, and my only thing I can do is fuck it up. Tough spot there for Rigoberto Sanchez and Luke Rhodes with Vinatieri because it is Adam Vinatieri. He has had a rough year, so everything is going to get magnified, especially when it's a game winner, but I know they'll bounce back next time. Those two guys are pros.

They're both making good money, and they both have performed very well. But Vinatieri could still make that kick if he opens his hips a little bit and adjusts it, but it's very, very difficult to do, especially in Heinz Field where it's known to eat up footballs, which it would do even more so if you're hitting the laces and the ball's spinning slower. It's just something to think about. That's my expert i mean i might be wrong i don't know did it professionally at the highest level for a long time a lot of people are telling me on twitter

i was wrong that was kind of fun to deal with mind-blowing it's kind of fun to deal with oh what do you know so you're telling me a snapper spins the ball so the laces are yeah that's exactly what i'm talking about i was a long snapper oh you were in the nfl uh college i'm like did you make the nfl probably because you couldn't fucking control your laces you fuck same thing like i don't know if the c there was a cfl guy that uh mentioned i don't know what he was saying because there's a lot of comments coming in a lot of people said they learned something which by the way we've been saying this for like three years on the show this This is kind of the way it goes.

But I am happy that I can learn more people about something that is very near and dear to my heart, which is special teams. CFL, I don't even know if the Snappers are expected to do it, because I don't know if it's its own position. I don't know how much it's practiced. But in the NFL, you can ask any of them. That is literally what they do. And to their credit, they should get a lot more credit

that they're able to bend over and just throw the same exact pitch every single time that is why they're robots that is why they're machines and that is why you see guys get jobs and stay there for 10 years because once you get a guy that can do it there's no reason to change it not at all you're like let's just let this guy do it until he's done and then you see him send one over his head or airmail one or two then he's gone and then you're trying to find the next one that can do it. It's all about repetition in the NFL. It's all about consistency. And some guys got it.

Some guys don't. But even the guys that do got it miss every once in a while. That happened to Luke Rhodes. He just missed. That happens. Tough for Vinny, though. That was a bad kick. He was so careful to protect them when he was interviewed about it.

So careful. I didn't hear what he said. Normally he'll say, we'll look at film and we'll get it corrected. No, no. It was on the local TV. I don't know if it went national or not, but they asked him about the laces being in. Was it a bad snap or was there something wrong,

went wrong with the hold? And he stumbled for a second. He said, I have to make the kick. I have to make the kick. He said, bottom line, I have to make the kick and he's he stumbled for a second he said but i have to make the kick i have to make the kick he's the bottom line i have to make the kick it's on me but yeah because at the end of the day by the way that is it right yeah the holder can make up for the snapper and the kicker can make up for both of them if he makes it but that is a very very difficult kick to make and if you would have made it would have been awesome because when it does slingshot off your foot if you pull your leg at all it's going to send that way so sometimes if you see it some guys can hit it perfectly straight that's because they maintain a straight swing all the way through the ball leaving their foot completely and that's very impressive that

should also be talked about like hey this is a great kick i'm not saying it's impossible to kick one but it is very easy to miss with the with the laces on you very easy to miss it saying it's impossible to kick one, but it is very easy to miss with the laces on you. Very easy to miss. It's hard. It's difficult. That's why it's a thing. That's why people are paying millions of dollars to not have it happen.

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I can't believe a Steelers got a win there. Me either. Are you happy with the win or not happy with the win? What do you mean? Always happy with the win. Yeah, but all it's doing now is hurting your draft. But you gave your draft to Dolphins, so it doesn't matter. Literally, the only thing I'm looking forward from this Steelers season is to finish

ahead of the Browns. That is my only happiness. Which, by the way, seems like it's going to happen. They don't look like they're going to win shit. Also. Hey, what a shame for the dog pound, man. That team. They are not good. Freddie Kitchens is probably a great guy, man.

Literally. Probably a great guy. I don't know. I mean, he gets jobs. Normally, people get jobs. Well-liked individual. Yeah. You think he'll get another one after this?

gets jobs. Normally people that get jobs, well-liked individual, you know, you think he'll get another one after this? Not as a coach, maybe like, maybe graduate from running backs coach to like OC and then maybe head coach a little bit.

Yeah. I'd probably have to go back to office coordinator or something. It'd probably be an assistant. It'd probably be a consultant or something like an offensive consultant for somebody. That's what always happens. Cause you're still getting paid. So they don't want to have to pay you.

But they like your brain in the building. You'll be a consultant, and then he'll make the jump to offensive coordinator again and then potentially head coach again. It's going to be tough to hire him as head coach again after this. I mean, it's a debacle. I mean, situational awareness is terrible. Baker looks terrible. Not even on the field Like off the field

At this point Terrible He dropped his mustache What'd you want him to do I'm not talking about the mustache Oh you're talking about his His hair His hair

His hair The hair's messed up It looked like he dressed up For Halloween for that As a You know He couldn't do the Fu Manchu

He couldn't do the Fu Manchu In the press conference Because of the loss So he went He shaved that off And he was like Well I don't want to go Complete baby face To this thing Fu Manchu. He didn't do the Fu Manchu in the press conference because of the loss. So he shaved that off. And he was like, well, I don't want to go complete baby face to this thing because then it looks like I kind of submitted. So he kept the mustache, which is probably the right move in the situation he was in because he went full beard to Fu Manchu.

So he already made that move. It's like a dress change at an award show or a wedding or something like that, like a costume change. So going into that presser after losing you have that food man chew like people aren't gonna be able to take you serious if you do that so he's like oh i gotta get serious because of the mustache that mustache was a serious mustache dude pretty sure they play the bills this week which is a pretty good pass defense oh fuck odell's a ticking time bomb we've been saying that though we've been saying jay fe. We've been saying that. Jay Feeley, for all the faults that Feeley and I have with each other, a couple good inside scoops by OJ Feeley.

OJ Feeley was sticking his nose in there and finding out exactly everything he could. Odell just came off the field pissed off. No shoes. He said, I can't get a damn ball. The shoes thing? Jay Feeley had his little ear to the ground in the dog pond. Also, at this point, i think odell has earned that

like if he blows up oh yeah yes you've earned everybody would be like impressed that it took you this long sir you know because his reputation does precede him a little bit and everybody you know because he did a little wayne interview on espn and the boat picture and the kicking net into yelling into this everybody i mean that's a lot that's a lot but everybody just assumed that as soon as things go wrong odell beckham is going to handle it poorly and i don't know if this is the proper way to handle things or the wrong way to handle things depending on who you are but it seems like he's been very mature through this whole thing and not being incredibly pissed off about it i don't know how to put it into words well on the get up show

quick enough for the way the get up show is you're supposed to like say in like 30 seconds you know i don't know how to put into words like oh i think he's acting like a grown-up right now as opposed to like because he he really is i think he is because he is pissed there's a lot of players in the nfl that are pissed by the way there's a lot of people in the nfl that hate their situations but they just kind of you know for a long time you just go out there you mask it you say yeah i'm happy to be here honored honored to be here, I'm going to work as hard as I can. And then whenever the camera leaves,

there's a lot of people that are like, man, this sucks. Like, geez, this program's tough, but I'm making a great paycheck, I'm just going to keep it moving. For Odell Beckham, just to stay quiet this whole time, I've been very impressed by it. Seems like he got blamed for a lot of stuff that went wrong in New York.

I agree. And you can't really do that in Cleveland because it's not his fault. It seems to be everyone around him. Yeah, because I wonder if he was taking blame if at some point he'd be like, wait a fucking second. Like, you know what I mean? Because that's why I thought after that punt he fumbled that was going to happen

because I thought people were going to start coming after him. But that punt fumble is such a tiny little thing in the Cleveland Browns 2019 story. Least disciplined team to ever take the field. Like, documented. Documented. Documented. Most penalties. When you look what he does when they actually give him the ball. He had that one catch on that plant. He must have, dude, yesterday.

He's unreal when the ball's in his hands. He is. But you gotta find ways to get him the ball. I mean, you can figure out ways to get Tyreek Hill the ball. Andy Reid does that very well. And Tyreek Hill, let's assume he's getting treated the same way as odell beckham and probably even worse because tyreek runs a 4-1 or whatever the fuck it is weapon that's what erlovsky said dan erlovsky said that this morning this guy is a game changer i'm a son of a no shit he's so fast his name is Cheetah on Twitter.

That was like, he went from a dead stop. Yes, to an escort of another grown man. That might be the most impressive thing I've ever seen on a football field. Bro, it was a real life. Whenever you're talking about who's faster or whatever, people say, I'll give you 10 yards. They're talking about in a 40. I could give you 15 yards.

And they were talking about that. I could still catch him. He literally gave him 25 yards from a standstill. He gave a guy 15 yards and they were talking about that I could still catch him. He literally gave him 25 yards from a standstill. He gave a guy 25 yards and he caught him. I mean, it was next level. I mean, just want to move.

By the way, sucks for that guy. Biggest play of his life. Biggest play of his life. And he just gets walked by his own teammate. But, hey, he would have blocked

that guy if he had to, which is what a good teammate does. Should Patrick Mahomes start when he's healthy or Matt Moore? I know. There's a lot. They gave Matt Moore too much time. What was it, like a minute and 10 seconds too which is what a good teammate should patrick mahomes start when he's healthy or matt more i know there's a lot they gave matt more too much time it was like a minute and 10 seconds or something like that you don't give matt more than much time pat mahomes looked very healthy in that celebration

i was literally watching him for like okay that would hurt the knee oh backpedaling okay a little bit of a spin there all right pat looks healthy and then he pushed okay a little physicality all right he's in a good spot. I think he's all the way back. I think he's good. Not all the way back. There's probably going to be a little bit of pain, but he looked very healthy in that celebration.

For them to be able to steal that win against the Vikings, they've been hot. I think that's massive for the Chiefs. Good for them. Patriots getting a loss, too. Good for the Chiefs picking one up there. That Patriots team, by the way, made me feel really good about the Colts whenever the Patriots

lost and I don't know if that's how I'm supposed to feel or not but they Colts losing the Patriots I'm like these types of things happen man don't lose faith these things happen yeah we had a very key injury so all pro quarterback yeah I mean let's go best quarterback in the league goes down you said um that guy was gonna own Cam Hayward all week long. You told me that. Hey, real quick, though. Quinn. Cam Hayward is an animal of a man. Evidently.

Bro, animal of a man. He took a wreck at Ralph and put him right on top of Jacoby. He bit him backward. I did not expect that at all. No. I did not expect that at all. That was insane. Cam Hayward needs a little bit more respect, I think,

whatever humans are talking about defensive linemen. Yeah, his whole career. Because he's from the Steelers, Pittsburgh.burgh aaron donald takes a lot of the inside d lineman hype cam hayward very impressive who's his dad ironhead i played pickup basketball with him at uh oh yeah tim was telling us about that your dad yeah i played pickup basketball with him in an elementary school gymnasium in plumb burrow really yeah ironhead hayward you're lucky you lived at Dolby. He was a big body underneath there.

I stayed on the outside. I was like 11 maybe, 10 or 11. I just ran back and forth. He's been a very nice guy. And now his kid is just a Terminator inside. Terminator bombed, by the way. Big time. Who would have thought?

Yeah. What's your deal? They haven't made a good Terminator movie since Judgment Day. The second one. They made too many bad ones in a row. I had no idea they made other ones. I thought this was the second one.

This is like five or six. Who was the leading actor or actress? I've never heard of them. She was in Halt and Catch Fire. It was like an AMC show, which... Oh, great. Don't know why that thinks you can handle a $100 million franchise on your own. But hey, what do I know?

Is that what it is, a $100 million franchise? Oh, yeah. The budget was astronomical. And they thought because James Cameron's coming back, he's going to be the executive producer again. Arnold's back. Linda Hamilton's back. I had no idea this was a movie, by the way. Turns out people just don't give a fuck anymore.

Russell Wilson, very good at football. I was following along that game on the phone because I didn't have it on the screen. And I was like, oh, look at Tampa Bay going into Seattle and winning this thing. Then a little miss time management right before half, get Russell Wilson some points, and then that thing went to overtime?

Oh, yeah. And then Russell Wilson at home in overtime does Russell Wilson things? Is that accurate? First drive, yep. What did he do? Basically, so they left too much. Tampa scored and left too much time on the clock, obviously. You don't do it with Matt Moore, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Russell Wilson.

Russell Wilson has a nice little drive down. And Brian Hoyer. 40-yard field goal for the win. Bingo. Okay. He misses. Oh, no. Jason Myers missed.

He had a bad day yesterday. A lot of bad, bad days for kids. And then they go to overtime, and yeah, Russ just goes down and takes care of business. Yeah, Russell Wilson. Tyler Lockett, very underrated receiver uh he's a weapon yeah he's dangerous game changer Metcalf too I mean yeah he had a big day I'm Metcalf too he had a good day he's back right this is his first time back he still yoked well he was off and then he's back right I don't know if he was off or not oh man that's tough being out there in seattle dude

i mean for me it's tough i mean i wish i knew more about seattle seahawks i assume they're going to become a prevalent story whenever we get to the playoffs and it's gonna be like i almost kind of enjoy like the ketchup time like for those that don't know this seahawks team has been very good russell wilson hasn't thrown an interception and 7 400 throws or something like whatever comes out they do have to like reset the entire table for everybody. For those of you that have no idea what have happened to the Seattle Seahawks, they are now in the playoffs and on primetime television, and you're going to have to watch them.

Here's their entire story. Yes, that guy did get drafted. Yes, he was a freak. Yes, he took his shirt off with a meeting with Pete Carroll. And yes, he's good at football. They'll have to reset the entire stage because that East Coast bias is a real thing, but man, it feels like when Russell Wilson is on my television, all I do is see him do the right stuff,

whether it's interviews or on the football field. He's pretty fantastic. Here's what you need to know. They pound the rock. DK Metcalf, all he does is catch touchdowns. Russell Wilson playing like an MVP. They were going to add Antonio Brown. They looked into it, but they added Josh Gordon instead. True, and they also really can't stop anyone anymore,

so they always play exciting games. Oh, really? So it's always back-to-recover season. Yeah, yeah. With the Seattle Seahawks. They're also in a tough spot because even though they're playing really well, they, in the end, are looking at probably having to play a road game in the playoffs because the Niners are.

So New Orleans, Green Bay. Something like that, yeah. Something like that. They play the Niners Monday night. Coming up. Look at you. Look at Z. Boy, Z.

No big deal, guys. And San Fran. Jesus. Oh, no. I just missed my moth. What the fuck is that shit.com? Liquiddeath.com. This shit.

Another good game you didn't get to see yesterday was Lions Raiders was also up and down. No, we saw it. We were watching it on the plane a little bit. Incredible interception by Okuze and Nienzo, number two player of the week with that left hand grab. Stafford doesn't throw picks, by the way. So to make a huge play like that against Manny Stafford was crazy. Nienzo, you know, the right there.

Hey, this is what I said to Diggs today. I said, this is the most stereotypical Lions team of all time they're going to be in every single game and then they're going to come up short and they're going to win about 8 or 7 games this season get an average draft pick and then they're going to do the same exact thing next year it would suck to lose to Mitch Brischke though nah I guarantee it went over the Bears

mark it down right now mark it down right now they will beat the Chicago Bears that's getting clipped you're fucked dude what an idiot Mark it down right now. They will beat the Chicago Bears. That's getting clipped. Clip it. Clip it. You're fucked, dude. What an idiot.

You are. Dude. Guaranteed. Dude. Why'd you do that, dude? Dude, why'd you do that? Bears are favored in that somehow. Dude, I'm open.

Really? I thought I saw they were favored by like two. Where's it at? In Chicago. Am I right? Not that it matters. That place is going to be raining booze for Mitchell Trubisky. They might be cheering Matty Stafford more than they're cheering Trubisky.

Oh, no, they're saying true. Mitchell's throwing five-yard outs last week. He was throwing them into the stands. Yeah, let them get loose, baby. Let them get loose. I got a stat this morning at the get-up the producers gave me. They're like, last year, Mitchell Trubisky, number three overall QBR. And I was like, are you serious? They're like they're like yes i'm like i did not know that i'm gonna i'm gonna let you know that i did not know that they were like uh this year is qbr nowhere near that i was like i would have guessed

yesterday zero plays out of the pocket were called for him last year he saw a lot of success outside the pocket this year he's terrible they're not moving him outside the pocket at all i was like so nagy's fault and they're like well you would argue that when you have a lot of success at something and you're number three overall in the entire nfl you would want to keep that same type of thing going wouldn't you i was like yeah i would take could you show me some footage from last year though where he's moving outside the pocket and they're like you got it they just typed it in they're like play after play after play trubisky's like running and like making plays. I was like, oh, yeah, that seems like a pretty fucking,

seems like a pretty sound theory you got right there. And I was like, that makes a lot of sense. I like Ty's question about, is Nagy doing it on purpose to get rid of Trubisky? To roll the dice. Well, Ryan Pace, that's his guy. He traded up for him, right? Mr. Pace.

Ryan Pace. I don his guy. He traded up for him, right? Mr. Pace. Ryan Pace. I don't like him. Whoa. Take him out. Is this the sentiment of all Bear fans? Just me. I don't know. I speak for myself.

I do. We don't know if that's accurate either. Because we don't know who you are. My name's Zito. Is it? Actually, it isn't. He's not dating. He has met a lady who potentially has access to telling us a lot of things.

Oh, I didn't even think about that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Finally find out. Oh, yeah. Pretty pumped up about that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Finally find out. Oh, yeah. Pretty pumped up about that. Zito was telling me about it. I was like, that's incredible.

Okay, all right. And then he started telling me more information. I'm like, man, I'm going to learn a lot about you. Pretty quickly from that guy. I think so. I'm pretty pumped up about it. I think it was like that you can't talk about it kind of thing, right? FBI agents can't talk about things.

No, that's patient, doctor. Is that things? No, that's patient, doctor. Is that lawyers? Yeah, that's FUPA. Well, if I... Tony told me... FUPA, same thing. Same difference. What did I tell you, Z?

If you give someone a dollar, they can't tell on you? Correct, because they're your lawyer, legally. You Italians. You fucking Italians. I'll be one up again with you. All these homeless guys with so many secrets. Okay, so when I walk to get up Monday mornings, I have to walk at like 5.35 a.m. in New York City.

I walk on this one street where there's the same eight bums that sleep there and they're all kind of waking up like when i'm walking by them like every once in a while i'll give like a 10 to the one guy he's still asleep or whatever like i just think of him waking up and be like oh my god see where's the liquor store they're all just so fucked up they all sleep like they literally just got knocked out bottles like sleeping next to them like as if they're cuddling a bottle of the cheapest stuff they got you're an incredible human dude i would rattle that change in there to make sure he woke up and saw me put the money in oh you want credit yeah i me tony gave it to you hi Anthony you won't remember this you're blacked out but

it was me bitch that's awesome I think one time I'll go by and I'll kick him and wake him up have you noticed like every seventh sunrise because he probably doesn't know what day it is have you noticed every seventh sunrise

like a little ten dollars is right below you yeah that's been me. Oh, fuck. Do you have 10 bucks? That's all he would ask you care about. But I feel pretty good. Saint Schlitz. It's crazy, though, watching those homeless folks.

Because we don't see them every day here. In New York, this one guy's got a nice little sub. He's got like an air mattress, this guy. Did you see our guy? When we go to Shake Shack, Carl is the man. What's he got? He just has a really cool little mattress on the steps, and he has a roof over him. Bro, this one guy was laying inside a store on the windowsill with his phone plugged into the wall

right below him oh that's a power move no shoes on no shoes on had pants no shoes on was wearing like a wife beater and his little bed

was outside the convenience store right to the right he was just scanning through his phone like this fucking guy living no taxes

no worries no fucks to give that guy. None at all. He's probably on bubble. We should do a Cribs episode with him. We can find him. I know exactly where he's at. He's got a nice spread.

Some of these guys got a pretty nice little setup. I don't know what's going to happen now when it gets a little chillier. Oh, I guess space heater. Plug it in. I don't know. See, I don't know if the wires come outside, though, because they have to shut the thing. There has to be an outdoor plug, which I'm not sure they have. They sleep near the grates where the steam comes up?

That's a good idea. Did you say it was a bumble? Oh, I didn't mean to do that. Oh, come on. Bumble? Is that what you're trying to do? No, I didn't. I was going to say the homeless apps would probably be like crumble.

Oh, you'd have to do that. I didn't mean to do that. I didn't say he was on homelessable. Fucking idiot. Hey, I have a theory. Yeah. Colts lose two days ago. That is correct.

They did. They have three losses. Chiefs, three losses. Texans, three losses. So the Patri three losses. Texans, three losses. So the Patriots know all this going into Sunday night. Bill calls a plan. Let's play as terrible as we can. Show Lamar nothing.

We don't care if we lose. Oh, my God. So when we see him in the playoffs, we'll be completely different defense. Kyle Van Nooy looked pissed on his sideline. The only thing that I just i mean i think what you're saying could be true i mean let's just not put it past mr belichick the new england patriots and mr belichick what's the whatever you want to call lord belichick from wherever you're from whatever you want to call him we can't we this is something we can believe this is like when stuff

comes out about people that is so absurd but you go with that person you could believe it and it's more of like a slight at the person and it is this is like yeah this could happen it's a compliment to him like yeah he could do that but somebody didn't tell kyle van noy there because he was very pissed he was very pissed on that side or very good actor oh oh my what if that's a part of the sell it you know how people like fake cramps if they're uh running tempo them? What if Belichick's the guy? Somebody act very furious in there, too. Act like we're really trying. 37-20, they think.

Mr. Van Nuys. People think that the Ravens are going to be just 37-20. And then Belichick's like, I'll just do my same press conference afterwards as I always do. Not that big of a deal. Oh, my God. Good theory. Raven showed their hand.

Diggs, I like this theory a lot. Thank you. I like this. By the way, the Raven showing their hand is like you just get a chance to see in real life what Lamar Johnson is. Right. Exactly. He's a fucking animal. Yeah. Dude, he is so insanely good.

Every one of those athletic traits that you would want to have, he has. Oh, yeah. That does feel pretty good. Yep. Okay. So some people are very fast, but they're not quick. Check, check. He's got both of them. Some people very fast, but they're not quick. Check, check. He's got both of them.

Some people can run, but they can't really view or see anything. He's got great vision. Some people can do all this, but they don't have a good feel for things. Bang, he's got a good feel for things. And he seems like he can throw whenever he needs to, which is good. He can make the big throw. Fourth down, they went to his arm, by the way. In a big-time situation, they went to his arm.

Up four, fourth quarter, fourth down. They go to his arm to throw it as an out which is a pretty tough thing to do i think he and greg roman are really learning about each other and i'll tell you what he's fun to watch he is fun to watch we've said this a lot i've said this a lot he's one or two big shots away but just like t.y hilton has the ability to avoid the big shot it seems if Lamar also has that ability to avoid the big shot, and if it is going to be a big shot, he's going to deliver the big shot, which is different than just taking it and delivering it. But with these guys that are in the NFL, I mean, Cam Hayward, for instance, look what he did to Quentin Nelson.

If he just gets a blindside shot, there's always that opportunity. I guess there's always that chance for every position. But when your quarterback plays the way that Lamar does, you have to expect at some point he's going to take big shot we're gonna learn a lot about him i'm excited to learn it but man he is a show he's lightning in a bottle he is a joystick of an athlete and i don't know how you defend it because you can have the perfect defense called and he just changes field opposite direction you're fucked out of nowhere it's very interesting you have to have like two spies on him almost i think i think the thing with like lamar and the ravens offense is

which is super hard to do because they're kind of running like if you think about like college like a triple offense where they never get behind the chains i feel like they never get behind like they're never in third and long yeah you know what wins if they're running the option penetration kills the option right that's what kills everything because if you can't read it and it's getting blown up so if they face a team with a good up the center up front that's probably gonna hurt them a little bit but you gotta remember the Baltimore Ravens offensive line gets no credit they're very good they got Yonda who Marshall Yonda yeah every other offensive lineman in the NFL says this guy is the offensive lineman Yonda so I think he never gets talked

about I don't know I'll be intrigued to watch it, though, man, because it's fun to watch. It's like watching a kid who on these college football games is just more athletic than everybody else. That's exactly what it is, but it's in the NFL. It's like, holy shit, this is like Michael Vick again. The other interesting part of it is Greg Roman was the 49ers coordinator when they had Kaepernick and came within a couple plays

of winning a Super Bowll running a similar style. That is so real. And I would argue Lamar is faster, quicker, and has a better feel than Colin. Colin used to be able to stride out. I think Colin could throw the ball well whenever he was hot, stuff like that. But Lamar is just so good, man.

So good. You know, Kyler Murray kind of has it a little bit too, it feels like, what Lamar has. He has this feel and his ability to run and then slide because of how good he is at baseball is a weapon he has this ability to get down and slide very quickly which is probably going to cause a lot of 1500 penalties at some point to add it on but man i like i like the way lamar jackson plays tyler murray reminds me of russell wilson yeah yeah same more style than anyone like you try to compare trubisky to him and all that stuff

i think he is the most like russell's maybe that's taken away from kyler murray i shouldn't say that but whoa whoa no no i think you're taking away from russell he's real calm like that you know what i mean like and he just put that little juke on you and he's back and i don't know he just looks really comfortable all those interviews he does he's kind of an interesting dude you know he's like full millennial i think where he's like you know kind of like on his phone probably very comfortable but face-to-face contact not so much because in those interviews he does not do great but whenever he speaks the things that he's saying makes sense so it's like uh he's not always comfortable in those situations but you get him on a football field that kid looks very comfortable and he's got gut sack too i mean

he's gonna go for it like he's gonna throw the ball into places that you're probably like, okay, only a few guys would have made that decision to do that. Like Brett Favish almost, ready to sling it, confident in the arm. He threw the sidearm, no foot plant. We saw it on, no big deal, Mr. Ursa's plant. He had this great throwing catch. I mean, it was a great throwing catch, and it was, like, fun to watch. That was the first time I really got to watch them play all year because they played on Thursday night, but I was calling that game.

A.Q. Shipley, by the way, is playing pretty good. I'm happy for the W. White guy. He's quick. He is quick. He lost like 15 pounds. He's no longer binging and purging the night before the weigh-in. He's going level three easily every time. They look pretty good, man.

They look pretty good. I think they're going to end up all right. I think so, too. Larry Fitzgerald just going to sign another $10 million one-year deal. Larry, you want to play again? You want to be another $10 million? Yeah. Eh, fuck it.

I'll come make incredible plays to be a leader in that locker room for you if you need it. I like them a lot, but I like Lamar. The AFC has been shaking up a little bit here. If Jacoby's not going to be healthy, I mean, Hoyer looks good. Threw a very dumb pick, but he doesn't get to play much. So that's going to happen. He's got to get the rust off.

He's been around a long time, but actual game reps is a different animal instead of scout team reps. I think he's good. But Jacoby, I thought, was an all-pro quarterback. I really thought he was. And so did Ballard and everybody. That's why they gave him money. I assume Ballard knows football better than I do.

He agrees with me, though, so that makes me feel good but the afc you got the patriots are going to bounce back the ravens are a real team now colts and texans are going to battle in the afc south deshaun watson gives a beautiful popeyes plug in an interview a la peyton manning that is genius stefan digs with the cleats for pope. Popeyes did it right this weekend with their marketing, by the way. It was organic, much like a podcast ad read. Ooh, insert ad. Right here. We interrupt this conversation for a reading by Zito.

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I mean, Stephon Diggs did that with Popeyes. Deshaun Watson did that with Popeyes. And I would assume other guys are going to continue to do the same. But somebody made a shout out to Taco Bell earlier. This is smart. This is very smart. This is good business by both parties. And I'm happy the NFL's leaning towards it.

It's only a matter of time, though, for the NFL. Oh, yeah. They're trying to die. Oh, my God. It's only going to last like another week or two. If you say a non-NFL partner, we will fine you whatever you're getting paid for that times two. It's like, how can you even say that? That's not a rule.

It is now. We just made a clause. You remember what we did to the last CBA? Y'all motherfuckers want to be locked out of this place or not? That's they'll do for sure by the way those sandwiches must have crack in them because the videos coming out this weekend of those places are absurd like people are fighting at every single one hey it's like jordan releases yes very smart marketing i have to taste pretty good i don't know and i guess the bread is really, really good. It's brioche.

It melts in your mouth. It's brioche? Yeah. So they're not sparing any change to make this a good sandwich. Top notch. That's what happened to Subway. Yeah.

Subway was so good back in the day. And then there was one on every single corner. They became the number one franchise in America or whatever for a number of... Something else happened, too. Before that, though. The yoga mats. Their quality dropped so fast

whenever they got so big. And then, obviously, the quality of their spokesperson was also very low for a while, as well. A lot of PIP tables. But before that, their food used to be so good. When Subway was just starting up, it was awesome. I'm a sandwich guy.

So going in there and getting this delicious sandwich. They were real sandwich artists back then. They were. Now they're just like the modern artists where they just throw painted fucking wall. Paint by number. They were sandwich baristas. Oh. I respect you.

I mean, I saw what you were doing. They take care of the coffee though, right? Yeah, the baristas they give real effort though i think yeah yeah that's what i'm saying i'm saying the sandra's artist oh back in the day used to give real art real effort yeah they really did now it's like you're annoying them to make a sandwich it's like well what the fuck do you work at subway for like yeah i want one line of mayo i'm so sorry i asked i'm'm sorry I came here. I would do it myself if I fucking could,

but they got this glass window that I can't reach it, so I'm so sorry. I am so sorry. And maybe, you know what? I'll take like 17 to 18 more pieces of lettuce, too, if you can put it on there.

I asked for lettuce. You didn't put lettuce on there. Like, uh, uh, uh. They throw it on there. Like, what the fuck? That's what happens. I would rather do it myself. I wish they would let you do that.

Walk in, put some plastic gloves on. If you take too much, they smack your wrist or something. No soup for you. Use the buffet. What's that commercial? Use a cocktail stick. Hilarious. You think it just took that long for all the Subway employees to finally figure out, like,

yeah, there's no real career path here. I'm kind of wasting my time. Fuck these sandwiches. I've worked in a food business, so I'm allowed to judge. You are? I've worked in a sandwich business. Best sandwiches in the biz.

And some said that my sandwiches were almost good enough to be servable. You know what I mean? When I made them. Did you actually make them? Oh, yeah. I've been on that grill before. I paid respect

to that sandwich too. I made it right. I've been making sandwiches a long time though. I used to fry bologna on the grill. Some jumbo. Yeah,

put bologna on there. Put a little ketchup on there. I wanted to open a peanut butter and jelly restaurant whenever I was a young kid because I thought I could make peanut butter

and jellies in so many different ways. Oh, PB&Js. Yeah, I used to make those. I've been a sandwich kid my whole life. What's your technique on that? I don't remember.

I really thought I was on to something. I would toast the bread every time. Oh, you got to. I would toast it. I think I put chips on there one time or some other stuff. Yeah, I was making peanut butter and jellies like three a day. And I was like, I think I can make a restaurant with this. And I was like eight or something.

And then I make all the sandwiches, man. I put chips on my sandwich a long time. So I feel like I respected sandwiches enough that whenever I actually had to do it, I was like, I get what we're doing here. I knew I'd put fresh iceberg lettuce on that thing. Shredded, by the way. If you don't have shredded lettuce on a sandwich, by the way, get the fuck out of here. I am so sick of it.

I am so sick of me asking for lettuce at places and they just give me what one half of a fucking romaine head i don't need that goddamn thing on there come on the avatar sandwiches today they were terrible it literally had the whole head of the whole head of fucking lettuce on it what is this doing how are you give me some cold shredded lettuce on this thing. Didn't order a salad with bread. That's what I'm saying. Just put a little cold shredded lettuce on there. One line of light mayo.

Onions too. Italian meats. Pervolone cheese. Toasted bread. I like my mustard beast smiley face. Well, you don't put mustard on that sandwich. But I get on your sandwich that you would put

you would decorate it oh yeah sometimes a winky face happy Z happy Z and then if he puts a sad face on it I would think

the chef's gonna kill him Nick and I live next to a peanut butter and jelly restaurant oh really didn't last long yeah it's tough not a lot of options not a lot of peanut butter it was a little overpriced it was a little overpric last long. Yeah, it's tough. Not a lot of options. Not a lot of peanut butter.

It was a little overpriced. It was a little overpriced. It was like $7 or $8 for a PB&J sandwich. It's like maybe we knocked that down a little bit. That's like Panera Bread. Panera Bread has like $7 or $8 PB&J. My brother, you know, Jay used to work at Panera. Really?

Jay worked at Panera for like four or five years. Here's your sandwich. No, I think he worked. I think they put him in a places where he didn't have to interact i think he was collecting a lot of buzzers or whatever this i think still one of the funniest stories when he worked at fedex got hit by the car and held on to the package the whole time and then delivered it and yeah delivered it goes back and then the person that ran into him sues him with ball security. Jay's like, great ball security. Jay's walking in a crosswalk

trying to deliver something. Gets smashed by a car. Goes up onto the hood, onto the windshield, bounces onto the ground, bounces off, stands up, looks at her,

goes, are you okay? She's like, yeah, I'm okay. She's like, you okay? He's like,

yeah, I'm fine. She drives off. He delivers. Just goes about his day. He forgets about it. Forgets it even happens. and then a couple weeks later he's getting sued for damages to the lady's car jay he's like i'm getting sued but for what he's like i get hit by a car

he told that story to me and zito in the car in pittsburgh once so casually and we were like hold on hold on yeah because technically that lady did a hit and run yeah technically that lady left the scene of a crime where she crashed into somebody Jay should have sued her but instead Jay had to go through like full chiropractic because shit's already broke anyways and it was all I don't think you had to stand up to drive I think you had to stand up to drive in the truck. That lady sues him. That's Jason McAfee. Yeah, we're at Donner

and Marino's restaurant. And he was like, yeah, heaven right there. We're like, what? He's so casual. He's a classic dude, man. Makes bangers of beats, though. We're going to end this show with one of Jay's beats. Independent artist Jason McAfee. Don't. I didn't.

I didn't. Jay in the house, y'all. It's a Jay Mac joint. I don't mind that. I don't mind Jay Mac. Nick was trying to brand him with a terrible name. What do you mean? What name? DJ Jizzy Jay Mac. Yeah, I was like, come on, don't ruin the guy. He splooges all over the beat. It's great.

Jesus. Come on. All right. It's great. Jesus. Come on. Alright. Great show today. Conversation with Joe Buck. You have a man that sounds damn good. Whenever this guy calls a game, I'm always intrigued. It doesn't matter if it's baseball. It doesn't matter if it's football.

This dude could call a tennis match and I'd love it. This dude could call a checkers game and I'd be enthralled. Very talented, very smooth, living legend. Joining us, Joe Buck. Hey, Joe. Hey, how are we today? I'm great. How are you?

You had a day off yesterday. What did you do? I assume you just watched all the other games and commentating them at home by yourself. Yeah, driving my wife out of the uh room back uh back into the bedroom uh no i i didn't i i watched some uh but i've got year and a half old twins so i was yeah i'm 50 with year and aand-a-half-old twin and 23- and 20-year-old daughter. So I was in and out of the room, up and down, shifting between the Chargers and the Packers and different versions of Baby Shark. Okay, well, your daddy, yeah, incredible daddy shark operation.

I would assume all of your children know that their dad's a legend, though, so that has to pay off, even though you work your ass off. So the wife or the lady, the mom probably enjoyed the fact that you were home. Let's talk about what you saw, though, in football yesterday. And you're a man who's been around the biggest moments in most sports. I mean, that's just fact. You call World Series, you call Super Bowls, you're everywhere at all times. How come it feels like sometimes teams just lay an egg? Yesterday seemed like a day where a lot of teams just laid an egg. World Series, called Super Bowls. You're everywhere at all times. How come it feels like sometimes teams just lay an egg? Yesterday seemed like a day where a lot of teams just laid an egg. Is this something that's expected, or is this a more telling thing, Joe?

I don't know. I feel like, yeah, it's a little different than it used to be. I feel like when you used to go into weekends, you knew that a certain team was going to win and and not and even if they didn't win it was going to be competitive and there are some games where it's just like a team doesn't show up um you know we we get some of those on thursday nights i think sometimes that's a turnaround you would know better than me. But I think, you know, it's a lot for these guys to handle. And then they get the benefit of extra time on the back end of it. But you just wonder, you know, sometimes the biorhythms of these teams, it just seems to come and go.

And the fact that the Jets go to Miami and the Dolphins put up 26 points on the Jets is shocking. And, you know, if you're a Jets fan today, you got to be wondering where is this team headed and how do I get excited about it? Because Miami, you know, anybody that had a pulse was being traded out of there and, you know, they put up 26. That's not a good day. Congrats to the Bengals, by the way, in the driver's seat for the number one pick. It's got to feel good in Cincinnati

when that's what you're shooting for this year. Yeah, it's hard. I mean, it's hard, and I don't know. I said this the other night on Thursday Night Football. I'm a huge hockey fan and a Blues fan, and the Blues were doing this i don't know 15 years ago whenever it was when they traded chris pronger because they didn't want to they didn't want to pay him they were going through a big shift and and it wasn't so much about draft picks

as much as it was about not paying a star and the team changed ownership and then the minute you get a different feel well you feel like you want to go back and undo a lot of that stuff in the case of the blues then you need a stay-at-home big tough defenseman and you had him and now he's gone and if you're the dolphins how about a left tackle okay well we had him but we traded him and and it's it's it seems like it's a never-ending cycle that some teams just they want to they want to play that bet and they never get back to where they were they're banking on the draft and i think the draft is you know pretty much a crapshoot at this point i think so too you see just as many first round picks dominate as it almost feels like you see them kind of fizzle

out after a couple years it's just the way the game is, especially with injury possibilities and the adapting to a professional lifestyle as opposed to an amateur lifestyle, even though that might be changing here. You're 100% right. I'm all about building through veterans and through the draft, but I think tanking is just a tough look, even if it does pay off. If this ends up paying off, though, for the Dolphins or Bengals, you're going to see other owners go,

well, you know, maybe we should think about it. I mean, the Colts, we stunk and we got Andrew Luck, which kind of kept our franchise afloat there. You're going to see owners potentially go, oh, maybe we give it a shot if we're at the bottom of that thing. Do you think that's the case or do you think every owner is going to see this and be like, that's not what our sport's all about? I hope it's the latter because, you know, for every every Andrew Luck there was RG3 right behind him and you know he had the the good first year and then for whatever and obviously the knee injuries didn't

help but you know he he wasn't what everybody thought he was going to be and you know you go back for the Colts the previous time and it was either Leaf or manning leaf or manning and manning ended up being the tremendous player and leaf was finished you know hours later so it's just you don't know and and i think it buys general managers extra time it buys head coaches extra because you keep saying well just stick with us work for the cubs in baseball. Every once in a while, these things work out. But for the most part, it can be death to a franchise, too. If you whiff on the draft, you can get all these picks you want. But then it's a question of who's making the picks and who's doing the scouting.

And are those guys really any good? And if they're not, then you're double that off. You're 100% right. Let's pivot a little bit to your career. Joe, I have a question. Why do you hate my team? It is the number one question in October in my life. And, yeah, everywhere I go.

You know, just this last October, for an example, I'm sitting there in Houston. Fans in front of me are, you know, within literal reach of me. And, yeah, for the most part, people are nice. But every once in a while you get a guy walking, going, you hate the Astros, you suck, you want the Yankees to win, and he goes to New York during the same series, and the guy's behind the plate with a Joe Buck sucks t-shirt

because he thinks that I'm rooting for the Astros. It's a pretty easy phenomenon and I could be some of the first on this but all year long when fans are listening to their hometown announcers do games and I used to do it for St. Louis you don't even really talk about the other team let alone get excited when they hit a home run. When you show up as the national guy, you have to get excited for both teams, and then both fan bases think you're rooting for the other side.

You just can't win. You can't play the game. I know this. Whenever I'm done, they'll be saying the same thing about the next person in that position. My dad used to get it, and Scully used to get it, but it took like a letter with a stamp, which kids don't even know how to do anymore.

And now it takes 140 characters, and you can find out how much you suck if you wade through the Internet. Joe, I think you're like the Patriots, though, right? Everybody will be mad at you because they think you hate them. Just like the Patriots. Everybody hated them, hated them, hated them. And then at some point here, I think relatively soon, just like what has happened to the Patriots,

everybody just has the utmost respect for it. It's like, you know what? Joe Buck has been crushing it for 40 years, it feels like. Every big-time event is better with his voice on it. I think you just have to get to that. You're like probably five years away from that happening, so I'm sorry you have to deal with that on a daily basis. If we can make that deal right now, and if in five years,

in whatever, 2024, November 2024, it's over with, that's fine. If it's not, it doesn't really matter. I don't give a hell anymore about it. I'm sick of it. I've been dealing with it. I don't give a hell anymore about it. I'm sick of it. I've been dealing with it since I was like 23, and I get it. I understand it. As I said, I'm a Blues fan. So when the Blues made this run to the Stanley Cup,

I was with the local guys that I hear all year long, John Kelly and Darren Pang, to do the game because they have a rooting interest along my same lines. And when the national guys show up, as great as they are, it's like, yeah, okay, I know it sounds like you're rooting for the other team. I know in my core you're

not because you don't care, but it just doesn't sound like my guys doing it. I get it. It doesn't really bother me that much. Hey, you and Troy are my guys if it means anything. I love listening to you guys call a game. Troy and you have this beautiful chemistry and this perfect amount of knowledge and also a little bit of fun.

And you guys will get salty, too, if something needs to be called out, which I appreciate and respect. Yeah, and unfortunately, too, well, thank you. A lot of stuff is needed to be called out this year, I think, with regard to the officiating and whatnot. I hope that, you know, we've got a Super Bowl coming up in Miami, and you just hope that coming out of that, it's a conversation about who won and who lost, not why somebody got ripped off by a call. And I just think every year, it's the biggest part of our job is understanding the rules.

And if we don't understand it, I have Mike Pereira, two bodies to my right, on the other side of Troy, and he's the ultimate catch-all. And it's just become so confusing that I think the average fan is looking at it like, some of these things don't pass the vision or the smell test. And that's the tough thing. They made it infinitely more difficult on these officials to do these games. And in this day and age, there just doesn't seem to be a lot of patience for a mistake. So I'm hopeful.

And maybe by the end of the year, this will have cleared up a little bit. But it seems like every monday you come out of a weekend of football and something else happened where they blew a play dead and it should have been a fumbled return for a touchdown and whatever it might be or a phantom call it's it's unfortunate they're aware of it and uh you know i think they're trying to get a better handle on it do you get a call from the league? Because I would assume the networks don't want you calling things out with the league because they have to deal with negotiations business-wise with the NFL.

But I think at this point, you and Troy are voices of the game, voices of the league. Do you feel obligated to call things out and make sure people understand, like, yeah, Joe's seeing the same things we are? And a follow-up to that is, do you get calls from people that aren't happy with the stuff that you guys say during games? It's a great question. I can honestly say that I've been doing this professionally since I was 21,

and I've never had a league call with any complaint of anything that I've said. And I think, as you said, you know, you are seeing the same thing the fans are seeing. And if you're going to hide the truth or not be honest about what your opinion is, to me, Troy Aikman's won three Super Bowls. He's earned his opinion. He's been out there.

He's given the blood, sweat, and tears. He knows what it takes to win uh he's taken a million hits at quarterback and and sometimes some of these you know hand slaps on the top of the helmet drive him crazy but we understand the rules and you you can you cannot love the rule whatever it may be uh and still accept the call because that's just the way they want it called. And I think that's been a major shift in the way he thinks and the way I think consequently. But you can also understand the rule and then not agree with the way that they interpreted

the rule or called it in that instance. That's why pass interference is such a subjective call that I think you have to be honest. And if you don't have your honesty, then I think you're asking people to believe you some of the time. And I think you have to be consistent. And if you feel it, say it. You can't be idiotic and just, you know.

I think eventually fans don't want to hear that over and over and over. You have to have a balance. But I think you have to be honest with what you're seeing and then just not continually bang the drum and go back to it. Yeah, because you could lose credibility if you're not speaking for the fan whenever the other time you are. I think you and Troy balance it beautifully. Last question here before we go,

and I can't thank you enough for your time. You've got a chance to call everything. You've won like 7,000 Emmys. You're a guy. You and Troy are people that I look up to whenever I get a chance to get in the booth. I watch your games. I try to learn as much.

What's the most awesome moment of your career? Well, with regard to football, we can keep it with that. I think the 2007 Super Bowl, the Giants and the Patriots, with the Patriots going for a perfect season, the Giants, and that was Eli Manning's postseason coming out party. And watching that game unfold and then going back and forth, back and forth in the fourth quarter, and kind of getting through that game knowing it was unbelievable with the way it ended. And getting in the car after that game and feeling like you did well,

you didn't blow it, you were a part of something that was big, it's a weird feeling. And I know you've got to go, but it's a weird feeling when you're doing a game for 115 million people and all you feel like is, God, I hope I don't make a mistake, which is a terrible way to do anything. is, God, I hope I don't make a mistake, which is a terrible way to do anything. And when you get through it and you feel like, you know what, we did that game justice and we did it as best we could, it's such a satisfying feeling, and those moments are few.

But that's the one that I look back on. And then as far as one singular moment, the Stefan Diggs walk-off touchdown a couple of years ago in the playoffs was breathtaking. And to see a guy not hop out of bounds automatically, turn around and run to the end zone untouched, and the game ended and it flipped in an instant. You know, the walk-off touchdown in football is something that you just don't get enough of. And when you get that, you've got to enjoy it. I'd say we don't get enough of you, brother, even though you're all over the place.

The voice of the Minneapolis Miracle, the voice of the helmet catch by Tyree, the voice of World Series golf, football, you name it. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm so thankful you joined us, Mr. Joe Buck. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thanks, Pat.

Appreciate it. Cheers, man. He's so good. Consummate Mr. Joe Buck. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thanks, Pat. Appreciate it. Cheers, man. He's so good. Consummate professional. He literally is so good. All right, that's it for us. Shout out to Joe Buck for joining us. Such an interesting man.

I guess it's very easy to hate him, though, right? Because he's forced onto everybody's televisions. And whenever your diehard team is playing and he has to call it an actual fact against your team and it doesn't make you happy, the easiest thing is to be like, oh, I hate that guy. He's so fucking good at what he does, though. I'm so thankful he called in, to be honest with you. He wanted to stay longer, by the way.

I know you got to go. We actually did have to go. We had a break and then another week we pushed a break. I was so happy to be talking about it. He's a legend in the booth. He's real. He's good. That's why people get mad.

It's because he's real. The same people get mad at Collinsworth because he's real, too. Same people get mad at me, by the booth. He's real. He's good. That's why people get mad. It's because he's real. Same people get mad at Collinsworth because he's real too. Same people get mad at me by the way. Also, maybe just grow the fuck up. Like 16. Like, hey, oh, this guy said something bad about my team. I want to fight him. I hate this guy. Grow the fuck up.

He's Joe Buck, dude. Yeah, he's doing his job. Joe Buck is everywhere. Joe Buck, give him no fuck. I think that's what he said. Joe Buck is everywhere. Joe Buck, give no fuck. I think that's what he said. Joe Buck in the club. If you buck. There's a rap song in there we should make. Oh, yeah.

Buck, give no fuck. Buck, give no fuck. Yeah, we could probably make something in there. Oh, yeah. Don't try your luck. Oh, shit. You might get trucked. Joe Buck buck don't give a fuck yeah we could probably get in there somewhere there's enough ox oh yeah plenty he'll make you retire like luck

acting like a schmuck acting like a schmuck retire like a luck get hit by a truck joe fucking buck what's upures should start Duck. Even after Mason Rudolph's big win. Yeah. You just wanted to add to the rhyme. Don't call him the Lures. Don't do that. Yeah, why are people doing that? That seems to be a new thing by Pittsburgh people.

I've been my whole life. Fake Penguins fans first wouldn't get it, but. Oh, shit. Duck, if you Buck. I mean, I respect the organization. If you're going to be a fan of him, use the full name. No, I have been seeing Lures on the internet a lot. Yeah, it respect the organization. If you're going to be a fan of me, use the full name. No, I have been seeing lures on the internet a lot. It's the worst.

I don't think I've ever heard it, by the way. A dire lures. The lazier the answers use it. Tim McAfee. I feel like pretty dire Steelers fan there. I used to break televisions and shit. Watching. I don't think I've ever seen.

He's probably a stellar. Yeah. Stillers. Yeah. Through and through. Learn. A lot of people were like, Pat, what gives? Lur's won.

Because I was like heartbroken over what gives, dude? Hometown Lur's. I needed one syllable for the song. Yeah. You got it. By the way, I think our song's ready to go. Oh, yeah. For sure. I can hear the beat in my head already. Oh, Jay.

Jay. Jay. Jay. Jay, clip this, Jay. Jay's home. Jay's home. song's ready to go oh yeah for sure i can hear the beat in my head already oh jay jay jay jay clip this jay jay's home jay's home jay created one of the greatest graphics i've ever seen yeah he's probably still here making that it was awesome it's in the youtube documentary that fox you released this morning by the way congrats fox good job fox good week what week are you on nine right no idea what oh true oh you're almost done eight down right nine is this this is not What week are you on, 9? I'm right. No idea. What? Ocho. Oh, you're almost done. H down, right? Nine is the season. Yeah, this is nine.

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At Pat McAfee Show at boston connor spelled interestingly good luck boston c-o-n-n-r oh it's getting smoother that didn't change yeah but it sounds smoother take it from me you're allowed to change your twitter handle oh i know yeah digs Diggs had a couple moves there. I really changed. At tone, Diggs with a Z. Lurs, Diggs. That won't be it.

Here we go. Diggs, Lurs. Here we go. It's got a ring to it. Diggs, Lurs going to the Super Bowl. Here we go. Car power. At Nick Morano. At Tom McComas. at Ty Schmidt, at Viva Lozito,

at Evan Foxey. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ty Schmidt, play some Jason McAfee. Thank you. Kanskje vi kan ta utsikt på det. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. Thank you.