The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1271 - OVERREACTION Black MONDAY, NFL Week 18 Recap/Playoff Preview, Adam Schefter, Michael Cole, Bill & Steve Belichick, Triple H, Joe Tessitore, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

On today’s show, Pat is LIVE from the Intuit Dome in Los Angeles ahead of Monday Night Raw’s debut on Netflix, while AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, and the boys are back in Indianapolis. They discuss all the different coaching firings, including a couple surprising ones, and overreact to all the week 18 games before starting to look ahead to the playoff matchups, as well as the CFP semifinal games. Joining the progrum to give more updates on which coaches may be fired next, who is getting interviews, and everything else around the league is ESPN Senior Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, the voice of the WWE, Michael Cole joins the show to chat about his excitement for Monday Night Raw on Netflix and why it’s such a big deal, as well as what he wants to the Jets to do at Head Coach and GM. Next, University of North Carolina Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator Bill and Steve Belichick join the show on the recruiting trail and chat about how it’s been so far, as well as Bill’s thoughts on some of the coach firings, and how difficult it is to be Head Coach/GM in the NFL. Lastly, the Chief Content Officer of the WWE, Triple H joins the show to chat about Raw being on Netflix, why it’s such a massive move, how he’ll decide on the length of the shows, how many people he anticipates tuning in, if he’s talked at all about potential streaming issues, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. I am live in Los Angeles but the boys are in a humble abode, the Thunderbird on this massive overreaction Black Monday, January 6th, 2025 program starts now. Football! I think we nailed it boys, I'm not 100% sure. I'm here in Los Angeles at the Intuit Dome and I'll tell you what, this place is remarkable. It is beautiful. This place is the host of tonight's Monday Night Raw, which will be debuting on Netflix to a global audience, which they're saying could potentially be tens of millions of people. Now, a star studded WWE cast has been put on the marquee for this evening.

I believe we're even gonna see the high chief. Rock is gonna be here. There's rumblings that brother Hulk Hogan is gonna be in town John Cena Starts his farewell tour and you're talking about a magical evening in the wonderful world of professional wrestling in this building tonight Now before we get to that there's a lot of NFL stuff to chat about AJ Hawk is live from the Thunderdome in Indianapolis Indiana is January 6. So boys, what does that mean? Happy birthday That's right from the thunder dumb in indianapolis indiana is january six of boys what does that mean uh... happy birthday while i was trying to be part of the day off integrations on making another trip around the sun and oh four years ago you had your birthday party at the capital not able to do that this year to get a

drive out indianapolis so i appreciate you doing that derrius j butler's back in the thunder to the top of the table is back in the thunder dumb at boston connor at Ty Schmidt one half of the hammer Cowboys AP tone is here as well and all the boys in the back thanks for making this work the WWE people have been fantastic Zito production on the back end we can't thank you enough the NFL has its super wild card weekend shut up AJ Hawk and I'll tell you what the drama is in abundance The talent is seemingly overwhelming in Detroit

Hmm, and the AFC has a situation brewing with a rookie quarterback with Sean Payton in Denver that I think the whole world Is going to get the witness for the next 10 years AJ Hawk big takeaway from the weekend from you Is it the fact that the Detroit Lions in what some were calling the biggest game in the history of the NFL against the Vikings? On Sunday night football for the number one overall seed in the NFC the Detroit Lions, in what some are calling the biggest game in the history of the NFL against the Vikings on Sunday Night Football, for the number one overall seed in the NFC, the Detroit Lions just go in there, smack them right on the ass. Smack them right on the ass. 31-9 Jameer Gibbs goes for 170 yards, 131 on the ground, 39 through the sky, four touchdowns, goes bananas, they lose knuckles, he's Jessonic.

Well Jessonic is damn good. And this team is phenomenal AJ. Yeah, they are I think the biggest thing I was talking to D but quickly before we got on air like how physical this Detroit Lions football team was Offense defense everywhere you look they're kind of beating up the receivers. Yeah, but I know we talked about they got after Sam Donald I saw Dan Oh on the way here I was watching some clips or lost he's talking about certain throws He feel like he felt like Sam Donald either missed or kind of left out there that he normally has made throughout this season.

I guess, Pat, what do you think when you're watching that you're seeing, I'm not sure exactly what you're doing. You're trying to mimic what was going on. Everything's high. Everything's high. Why is that? Everything is high for Sam Darnold. Well, I think because he was zeked up, brother.

Sunday Night Football. I think it was the biggest game of the year. I think it was for the number one overall NFC seed. This is for home field advantage over there in Skull World throughout the playoffs. This is to tell a story to your fan base that this team is here and has arrived and they're only paying a quarterback 13 million dollars. It was a massive evening. We were talking about it. The whole world was talking about it. Anzaloni was playing with a bar in his arm. That's how big of a game it was. It had a Super Bowl type feel. I think it was just a little zeked up.

Everything early was high. Even that masterful catch by Justin Jefferson on third down rate, that was a full out stretch, fingertip grab. So even his completions felt like they were a little bit over the top. And I just think he was jacked up. I think he needed that moment.

That was the biggest game Sam Donald's ever played in. That was the biggest. So I think he needed that. I think it helped him. And D-Buch, what Aaron Glenn did to Sam Donald It was a big so I think he needed that I think it helped him and Debush and what Aaron Glenn did you Sam Donald in that Vikings offense now Obviously a bunch of fourth down turnovers turnovers on downs down in the red zone But Aaron Glenn is you sit on a sideline on the bench chilling Whenever the offense is on the field and then when the defense is on the field, he's dialing it up

He's dialing it up on these guys and all year They've been great no matter who's on the field and then when the defense is on the field, he's dialing it up. He's dialing it up on these guys and all year, they've been great no matter who's on the field for him. D.Buch. I tweeted last night when I was watching the game, just an absolute master class from Aaron Glenn. And coming into this game, we knew it was fantastic players on both sides of the ball, but great coordinators on all the play callers on offense,

both defensive coordinators with Flores and Aaron Glenn. I think he kind of stole the show. Like we've been talking about these injuries, pretty much all things along on the defensive side of the ball for the Lions, but they got after him. They hit Sam Donnell more than he's been hit all year. I think a lot of the reason, a lot of those balls were highs because he couldn't really step into a lot of them.

A lot of them was back foot, somebody in his face. So even when guys were open, he would miss them. And then on the back end, got super physical with the guys, jammed up Jefferson and Addison, Meek Robinson, taking on that challenge, battling and following Jefferson all around. That was a fantastic job by Aaron Glenn. And these players that stepped up and played huge, huge roles.

Shout out to Shep, obviously the linebacker coach over there, gets Anzaloni back. He's a madman. Anzaloni's a madman. How about in the first quarter there, where the delay, he thought there was a delay. This guy's back for, how many weeks off, Foxy? Was Anzaloni back. He's a madman and Zaloni's a madman How about in the first quarter there where the delay he thought there was a delay this guy's back for how many weeks off? Foxy was an Zaloni how many weeks off I believe six six weeks because of a broken forearm or whatever had surgery came back and Obviously, he's a massive piece this entire thing. I think he's large, too

I think he's a large individual because whenever we get the locker room postgame I think he's a large individual because whenever we get the locker room postgame Situations in MCDC goes jaw Gibbs man, and then he goes to the Robertson man And then Anne Zaloni gets one the camera was shooting up at him. He's a staggering man that hair I mean everything that pies on is a big son of a bitch. I think 240 Okay, so it made sense so just all I was looking at was that the social media salt phone And then it was like John Gibbs was here Okay, then Robertson was right here get a great speech

You have a great speech and then they gave one to Anzaloni and that thing turned like this, you know And like just that adjustment. I was like, holy hell and he's oh, yeah, he's talking right on I mean it Well, if you're just do it is Dibot said he's actually a good athlete to Pat Good I'd say actually I'm not surprised by he's a dog what all that man-to-man coverage he was out there on an island Yeah, he really did just like it put him some really difficult situations that dude can do it all like he he can do everything I'm shooting up look up big that guy look holy shit He can do everything. There it is, look at the camera shooting up. Look how big that guy looks. Holy shit. Does that look Staggering right there? You're proud of you there man. I'm proud of you. To your point though about man to man

Detroit played man with 73% frequency. I don't know what that means That's really really high in today's NFL, really high. Okay 73% frequency, Darnold had a 14.7 QBR on those reps. And then Detroit sent six plus pass rushers 13 times yesterday, which is the most by any team in a game this season. So in the biggest game of the year, all MCDC preaches is, let's be us, man. Let's be us, man. We're aggressive.

We do this. Let's do us, man. They're the most aggressive they've been all year. The most aggressive any team has been all year. And you got Justin Jefferson on the other side, you got Addison on the other side, you got Hawkinson on the other side. So whenever you bring pressure, six people,

you can get exposed. You can get exposed quick on the back end. And they let their, you know, they let their buckeyes hang. You know, and I respect that a lot. And they beat the hell out of them, D-Butch. I like toxic table At Boston Connor. Sorry to hear about it, man. I don't have a coach. It's okay. Yeah, we're feeling great over here Sorry to you. You do have a code

And a GM obviously and a GM will continue to Figure it out. It's gonna be great. Of course, I think that is something you can do because in 2025 now, not 2024 Yep, new year. They've created a way I saw this on that on here. It might have been fake. You never know Toothpaste all the way out of the tube And then lo and behold, guess what I saw. What's that? No boys. No one figured it out. That's not possible Took took the paste. No, I Didn't put it back into the tube. How did they throw the tube? It was all gross and ruined No funny the tube actually went back to full. It was not ruined. The tube was not rude

Okay, tube actually went back to full Shine and question it was completely full again. Yeah, that's what happened So if it can happen on the internet and the thing putting it back into the tube, it can certainly happen with a football team where his culture seemingly completely broke. Now, at this stage of it all, who are we going, if Chris Ballard was to go 10 and seven the next two years,

he would still be under 500 by one game. So he's 62, 69 and one right now as the general manager for the Indianapolis Colts I think he was dealt a bad hand whenever Andrew Luck obviously ends up retiring like what 14 17 days before the season starts because he gets an injury and Decides he doesn't want to go through everything that he had to go through before with an injury So anytime you're a general manager and you think you're going to have Andrew Luck, who was once in a generation D, but that dude was unbelievable. He was awesome.

Coming off his great, his best year too, at that point, I feel like absolutely awesome. You know, so like you'd say you think what Chris Boud had to deal with there at the beginning and then he had to sort that out, that's late into the entire salary cap, that's late until the entire roster construction, that's late into the off season, 17 days before the season starts entire roster construction. That's late into the offseason 17 days before the season starts. I mean that's pretty late in there to try to sort it out So I think there was a grace from a lot of people are like that sucks, dude

Like what you got to go through sucks sucks for our city sucks for you having to build it then away builds his team It's like okay This team has a chance and obviously having to cycle through a lot of quarterbacks old quarterbacks old quarterbacks good quarterbacks Phil Rivers was the best of them all but a lot of quarterbacks a lot of quarterbacks a lot of quarterbacks, old quarterbacks, old quarterbacks, good quarterbacks. Phil Rivers was the best of them all. But a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of quarterbacks. You would think eight years in though, at some point we would be able to get going. But instead it's another eight and nine year, missing the playoffs. The boys are pumped. They beat the Jacksonville Jaguars a week 18 with Mac Jones as our quarterback, high

five and empty sweets, whatever the case. All of it is just like a situation where I believe that it's gonna be tough to change the things that you need to get changed to be good. Unless there was a new voice, a new face, somebody saying hey, we don't do it like that anymore. That's the only way I think you can do a reset is you have to hit a button. But maybe this crew is able to do it. Maybe this team's able to pull it off. Jim Ursay obviously more bowed into what's happening in the building than I would be or any of us would be he put that out quick

I mean I was the same night. Yeah night is the last game We did we're missing the playoffs again longest drop a playoff drought in the history of the program ties 1989 to 1994 I think which were bad days brother bad bad days for the Indianapolis Colts. You're talking about bad times here So for him to put it out that quick after nights like he made this decision i feel like going into the game boys get away and he says all right here we go we're running it back and also hi i don't want to i don't obviously i don't want chris powers good man he's good man he's always been good gosh i think is good person uh... you know

shane stein has been good us i don't know much about him but he's been good was but it's like that building is seemingly broken and I don't know much about him, but he's been good to us. But it's like that building is seemingly broken. And I don't know how the people that have been living in it and calling it the landlord for the last eight years are going to be the ones are going to be able to see that and fix all the cracks that they figured out unless somebody else comes in and buys the house. But maybe they'll be able to do it. That's a huge story though. I mean, anytime Sunday night football on the last Sunday night is mentioning that you are keeping your general manager and head coach as one of the three

biggest news is of the day. Yeah, that's when you know that it's where we're at. We're at quite a crossroads and It's a bummer, but maybe this team's able to maybe this team's able to put the two back into the That's okay. You know, maybe they're able to put the base back into the tube like I saw on the internet But other than that, I think we're in for another year of mediocrity potentially, but who knows yeah I put out as soon as I saw the tweet from Jim I put out, you know a little bird called to coast nation just to see how they felt and it was loud I would be a lot a lot a lot of responses. I would say probably over 98 percent of them were negative.

You know, not very optimistic because of what you said, you know, same leadership, you know, you got the same GM, you got the same head coach, and we're assuming the same quarterback is welcoming back. So those are usually the three people you look at after the ownership level. So a lot of questions obviously at the ownership level as well, but that's not gonna change.

Like you said, Jim is gonna be Jim He's gonna make those decisions and as a coach fan at this point all I can be is optimistic You know, I could just be hopeful that they figure some things out We obviously still have some talented players, but we know how important culture is We see it with all the teams pretty much all the teams that are in the playoff right now, you know what I mean? That's that's part D buddy it really is. And culture became this buzzword around sports media there

well like three years ago. And it's because it's the only thing that matters. Yeah. Legitimately, it's the only thing. Yeah, it's the only thing that matters for your team. Does your team have one or does it not? And if it has it, is it good or is it bad? Cause you've got a good team, bad culture,

your team's gonna stink. You have a bad team, good culture, team's gonna going to stink. You have a bad team, good culture, your team's going to be overachieving. That's kind of how that goes. And I feel like punter, my particular position, and I see the people that are negative towards me about everything that's been happening with Colts always just refer to me being a punter. And let me tell you why I'm the most qualified

to talk about culture. Because I was like, in the rooms watching. I was in the living rooms of both defensive guys, offensive guys, undrafted guys, first round guys, first overall guys. You're talking about like, I've got a chance to like see so much so much greatness like so so lucky to have seen and that's why D butch is like a guy that I will always hold in such high regard because whenever I watched him work and whenever I watched him interact with his teammates and I watch his film

study then I watched the way he handled himself on the practice field and in the weight room and on the playing field and then in the meetings whenever a question was asked by coach Pagano to the entire defense nobody has the answer who has it? D-Bud has it. You know why? Because D-Bud worked his ass off. So I've gotten to see so much good shit and been lucky to be a part of these things just

because I've happened to have a fucking cannon attached to my right hip. Like that is just kind of why I got to do all these things and I think that's why when I notice some things it's like that's what bum teams do. That's what kind of why I got to do all these things. And I think that's why when I notice some things, it's like, that's what bum teams do. That's what bum teams do. That's what bum teams do. And it's like, great teams do this. Great teams do this.

There's trends for how humans operate within a winning organization, and there's trends for how humans operate in a losing operation. And it's just very evident, I think think that the Colts have been in the losing program side of things with a lot of different shit. They have a lot of talented players, okay? A lot of talented players. So many talented players, which is why the expectations are so high but I think they have a lot of losing traits. So the only thing I was trying to say publicly is like, hey, why don't we for the good of the fucking city? Okay? We would like to have a great football team You saw what happened with the Indiana Hoosiers with signetting these are football people that live out in Indiana

They love the Colts love going downtown love having a reason to go have a drink downtown Love having a reason to travel in through 70 or 65 to get downtown have a little day have a little night Have a good time cheer on the Colts We're fucking good But instead we've had to deal with just and and and a lot of people sticking up for and and and it's like I think That's why I'm the most bummed because I've been very fortunate to see a lot of good I saw some terrible and whenever I point them out on a microphone It's like that's just me trying to say, hey, let's win

and let's stop doing this shit because that's what losers do. Now let's get back to the toxic table at Boston Connor. You guys fire your coach after one year? Holy shit, buddy. What do we do? I mean, look, it was a tough year and I think the hate towards Gerard Mayo, especially yesterday, was a little bit unwarranted. I don't think anybody went into this year as a Patriots fan like hey

We're gonna win ten games and go to the playoffs and we're gonna be competing for a Super Bowl The ceiling was probably seven wins so for the fact that they went three and fourteen four and 13 whatever the hell they ended up because yesterday was a shit show doesn't really matter in the end You know, they go from the number one pick to the number four pick also doesn't really matter because we're not a QB needy team. You know, you want more picks, but draw mail again, fired a little bit of a surprise. I think there were rumblings early in the season, maybe halfway through that, like, Hey, things aren't going well. Things aren't getting better.

Obviously they start the year off beating the bangles week one, which kept the bangles out of the playoffs and the Patriots out of the number one pick So looking back massive game in the moment also a massive game because it's like holy shit Mayo's coming in wins his first game as a head coach. This is awesome Maybe things will be better than expected But I think the biggest thing was the defense got worse for Gerard Mayo and he came in as a defensive guy So you would assume that would be the one thing that gets better, especially with all the players.

They ended up signing during free agency, actually keeping during free agency on that defense. So that getting worse was a massive deal. And then I think Schefter talked about it. The last 30 days is where like doubt really started to creep in. And I think we had him on either last week or two weeks ago and he never really had a feeling

that Mayo was definitely out and then yesterday On Sunday countdown. He talked about how he was leaning towards out with Mayo. So it is a bummer I mean one year is crazy. I think last year Frank Reich was the only one and done guy for the Panthers I think the year before was lovey Smith where he won the last game just like Gerard Mayo against the Colts and then they fired him immediately after but it stinks because Gerard Mayo was a player everyone loved in New England and the head coaching you know stint one-year thing didn't go well he talked kind of like a fool sometimes in the media where he would say one thing on a Monday and then Tuesday he would walk it back and that was kind of from the beginning where he

said in free agency they were gonna burn a whole bunch of money and then Tuesday he would walk it back and that was kind of from the beginning where he said in free agency They were gonna burn a whole bunch of money and then the next day he said look We're not gonna we're not just gonna spend willy-nilly so it was one of those things where he was a rookie head coach trying to figure things out and You know it went the way it went and I think this year in particular and maybe not last year or even the year before That if this season happens that you know he does come back for a second year but then when you look at the coaches who are available in this you know coaching cycle who's able Ben

Johnson I for able I think you can throw a bowl like Frabel like great like Frabel I already ordered a jersey with the number 50 that says head coach on the back so you know where I lie in this kind of hiring cycle but Seriously, I think because Vrabel is available Specifically Vrabel it would be foolish not to kind of move on when you see where things are going and over the weekend It was reported that and this is a real thing Vrabel changed his Twitter X profile photo from one thing to him Doing a nice little celebration with Teddy Bruce ski when he was playing for the New England Patriots and drive mail is one of those guys too

Who does who did understand the Patriots culture played there all of that? But I think Mike variable more so Understands what it was like playing for the Patriots when they were bad and then turning it around and making them great. He was on the team in 2000 when they were not good. I think they won 5-11 in Bill's first year and then he was part of that turnaround where in 2001 they won and won the Super Bowl. So Mike Vrabel, all eyes are pointing to him, there was a tweet from Mike Giardi where he actually mentions like hey I've talked to multiple NFL executives around the league everyone's basically already pinning Vrabel to the New England Patriots and then we also have the video

from last year where Mike Vrabel was kind of inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame and that was a problem with the Titans allegedly last year when this happened because it was during the Titans bye week but Foxy if you want to run that from last year. But I also want you not to take this organization for granted. I've been a lot of places this is a special place with great leadership, great fans, great direction, great coaching. Enjoy it. It's not like this everywhere. Thank you very much. Yeah so I mean I know I know Pat before the show there is some guy over there who is a Saints or Jets fan He was saying hey bring in Mike Vrabel if you're if you're a fan of a team, that's not the Patriots newsflash

You're not getting Mike Vrabel because Mike Vrabel is going I think to New England Okay, so I like that. He's interviewing with the Jets though, you know drive that price up Let's make sure old, you know Robert Kraft has to do some business here to get Vrabz in there, recruit him. Let's not just hand over the reins, but Vrabz probably is thinking the exact same thing. I think the Twitter profile photo change is a big deal personally. I think the speech that he gave whenever he went into the ring of honor, I think that's a big deal.

I think everything about Vrabz being available and Draud Mael getting fired immediately after a game in which they won and lost in a one overall pick. It's like this was, this is happening quick. And if you do recall after Kraft fires Bill Belichick, which I wonder how that is now. Yeah, I think that might change a little bit. Oh, is that right? One year of oh, is that right? Potentially.

You think that's what Bill Belichick's going to say to the Kraft family? I would, I don't think he would actually say it, but he certainly, when he lays his head down at night after recruiting some transfer portal guy who's got a cannon of an arm, he thinks to himself, I wonder if the Krafts kind of maybe have a little different opinion of things. I hope they get it right, obviously, for the future celebration, but it's like, with how quick they hired Mayo, this was the prince that it was promised, feels like the Vrebo hiring will probably come

pretty quick as well I uh, I Don't know how I feel about one year getting fired though age, you know like if it wasn't for this particular situation with Vrabes being available and we know this isn't like Seen like Jeff Saturday getting hired. No offense. Jeff. Sorry. I love Jeff Saturday I think Jeff Saturday would do a great job at anything he wanted to do including model. He's a handsome son Oh, yeah, he's a hit. He's a handsome but Vrabes has been a head coach. He's dealt with ownership He's dealt with everything I mean he is literally done everything you need to do to be a head coach

He's already experienced the highs and the lows at one place as a head coach. I think he's a perfect guy age Yeah, he does feel like a perfect guy and what's's telling in that speech that he gives, he says, it's not like this everywhere. Believe me, I think he said at the end of that. That's saying, hey, this place is absolutely special. You guys do things. It may not be perfect, because nothing is perfect. But how you do things is conducive to winning,

as you got a sweet laser light show going on. But you're getting everything all queued up for the night, huh? I think there's going to be a lot of the laser light shows. I think there's gonna be a lot of the laser light shows. I think there's gonna be a lot of laser light shows. This place is made out of laser lights, it looks like, legitimately. These seats all have little,

you know how the wristband things at the concerts? You know how they make it like at the Taylor Swift, we were back then. Yeah, we're doing this one right here. And it was a light show, you know, we were doing a light show for the entire, every seat has one of those. If you can see here on my shoulder, those are all seats. Every seat has like a light show, you know, we were doing a light show for the entire every seat has one of those. If you can see on my shoulder, those are all seats.

Every seat has like a light show part of it thing. And if we know anything about WWE, like they're going to utilize all this shit. I mean, all, all this shit is going to get utilized. Tonight's show is going to be insane. I think from what I've been hearing, from what I've been hearing, I think tonight's show is going to be absolutely insane. Love it. Just, uh, I think fastball cometh.

Some surprises too, right? Yes. Yeah. I mean, these are, this is everything that's been announced thus far. There was like mass, from what I've, from what I've been told, and they don't tell me shit once again, because I get out there and we don't need to let the doofus know what's going on because doofus will ruin entire thing. But it's like, from what I've been told, we got huge coming out here. I mean, it's going to be an insane night.

Speaking of huge surprise guests, this guy comes on every week and every time he surprises us with some great information. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider at ESPN, Michigan man, Adam Schefter. Gentlemen, first of all, Pat, you're in the Intuit Dome. That's pretty cool. And I don't get the honor usually of being on with AJ. It's happened before, but nice to be with AJ as well. Good to see you, Shepty.

You look great. So do you, AJ. It's AJ's birthday. Do you want to say happy birthday to AJ and say hey? Hey, happy birthday. Why don't you invite me to your party? Happy birthday. Yeah, well, how old are we today? I'm 41 years old today shifty that's awesome you look great for

your age hey happy 21 that's what they say haven't beat michigan this day that's very kind of you hey uh shifty why didn't you go to aj's birthday party four years ago Hey, uh, Shifty, why didn't you go to AJ's birthday party four years ago? I did not get that invite. If he had invited me, I would have been there. Everyone was invited. I think everybody was invited. Only certain people went though, H. Tell them about it. Was that Capitol? Tell them. Yeah, Shifty, I was not at the Capitol. Pat tries to say that there was a party for me that was thrown a couple of years ago at the Capitol. I was not there. I don't know who was. I don't know if you were wearing a Viking hat.

Well, I was not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not on that particular day. Didn't you have your feet? You kicked your feet up on your birthday. I remember. What if that wasn't? All right. Let's get the football. Pain lady there. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. I'll be wild. You probably be in jail. All right. Let's

get to NFL. Let's get to NFL football here. Shefty, you made an announcement that every human that is not coaching somewhere is interviewed for the head coaching job with the New York Jets. Is that an accurate statement? And one of those names, Mike Vrabel, we're all just assuming he's headed to the New England Patriots. Where are we at with the Jets coaching search and then the coaching search as a whole, Shefty? Well, the Jets obviously have put a lot of time and thought into this, getting ready

for this, having a little season to prepare. And so they've submitted a whole bunch of requests today for a whole bunch of candidates, some really intriguing guys out there, Aaron Glenn and Brian Flores and Josh McCown and some GM interviews with Mike Borganzi in Kansas City and Mike Greenberg in Tampa. And by the way, let's just focus in on that for just one moment. Like how incredible would it be if the Jets general manager were named Mike Greenberg?

Like that in and of itself, like that's, they should hire him just for that reason alone. Like that would be awesome. What if every time you walked into, he was standing there saying, it's time to get up uh... within your judge what he did a full greenie kind of intro every single that would be a newt magical but my greenberg

a salary cap gymnast gold medalist down there with the tamper bay buccaneers if we do recall yet you want another little factoid about my career as well you know it's the same high school uh... or should all what what i school is that? What type of high school is that? Same high school is Amy Fisher, Belmore, John F. Kennedy. Amy Fisher. Where's that at?

It's on South Shore, Long Island. You play lacrosse? Long Island, big lacrosse place, right? Oh, yeah. Big. Yeah, big lacrosse. Big. Yeah. I was not lacrosse. Go back linebacker, chef on the football team. What'd you play? Yeah. True. I played,

pick up the jock strap as fast as you can. You did great too. You did great. He was so good. Other networks play that game too. Whoa. A lot of allegations, a lot of serious, serious allegations on the internet, obviously. Let's get back to the head. head got wild, wild west of the internet. And I haven't seen the internet like that in some time. Plus week 18, I mean, I mean, it was, yesterday it was alive. Sheffer, as you know, your phone is alive in this particular time.

So the Jets have cast a wide net because they've had a lot of time to prepare for this. Let's get back to New England. There are Mike Vrabel's Mike Vrabels going there? Is that just kind of assumed? Because that's what Connor, I think, has been thinking since the conversation about Mayo maybe not being back kind of started, which was a few weeks back. Look, I think that is logical to think,

but I think that there's a lot that still has to unfold before that were to happen. That's not to say it's not gonna happen, but again, they have to meet. There are other teams interested in Mike. I don't know if all of a sudden the Jets or Bears or Saints are going to come stronger for him and present something that's going to convince him to go. I mean, you just don't know how that's going to work out. How do you think he may feel about the way that the Drago-Meo situation went? There's a lot of things. Plus the Patriots, they've never embarked on a real head coaching search and they're going to listen to other people and they have to

listen to other people. How do we know that they're not going to meet somebody that strikes their fancy? My point is, yes, I think- John Bon Jovi. Ooh. Exactly. My point is Mike Vrabel is absolutely a leading candidate for the New England Patriots head coaching job. And I think the choice in the end, that a lot of people would expect to unfold,

but I think there's a lot that has to happen before you get to that spot where he does, in fact, become the head coach, if that does happen. Chef D, when does the first hiring happen? I know there's different rules on when you can interview people, when you can't, all this stuff is depending on if your team is still playing. When do you think the first hiring takes place?

And the Chicago Bears specifically, I know it's a two-parter, what do you think they do? I hear a lot of people talking about how coveted of a job that is, how a lot of people want that gig. I guess with Chicago, we can answer that one first. What do you think happens there? Well, first of all in relation to timing the league has put guardrails and rules into place to slow this down dramatically and it used to be for years for years that

This day came the day after the season and there was a sprint to go interview candidates and hire them right away. And now the rules are set up and designed so that any coach on a team, any executive on a team for a GM job, they cannot interview face to face until after the divisional playoff round on January 20th. And so it used to be for years, for years, most jobs were filled by the time January 20th. Answer it. Uh-oh.

Answer it. Gotta get it. No, no, no, no. You gotta get that. We gotta get it, Sheffy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to. Scoops. We'll mute you, we'll mute you, we'll mute you. We're gonna keep you on the stream. Next call comes in, I missed that,

and I apologize, because maybe the person who called is watching. But what I was about to say is, by the time we got to the divisional playoff round, most, if not all of the jobs usually were filled. And now, I'd be surprised if we had a single hiring by the divisional playoff round. I mean, you might get one,

but the league has really slowed this down so that teams take their time and everybody gets the proper consideration and nobody races to get it done. And now it lingers into late January, early February. Now we're getting hirings like Super Bowl week. It just, it's, and by the way, it's just more attention for the league,

more attention for the league, because the league used that. I think it's good. We've been petition's just more attention for the league more attention for the league because the league is that I think it's good We've been petitioning and campaigning for this for a few years a coaching hiring part of the season of the calendar Because these dudes working their asses off to get to the biggest game of the year than them having to do a four-hour interview If you answer you answer that I just want to let you know that if you want to break some news good break some news That's what this day is all about overreaction speaker black Monday. You know, I mean, that's that, you answer that. I just want to let you know that. If you want to break some news, go ahead and break some news. That's what this day is all about. Overreaction, Black Monday. You know what I mean? That's the entire thing.

But it's just like, I think them having to do the four hour interviews, like the day before having to prepare for a division round or a playoff game or something like that. We thought that was stupid. We thought that was stupid. Yeah, we thought that was very dumb. And then we thought people wanting to hire coaches

that lost earlier just because they could hang out with them more before they could hang out with anybody else was stupid. Yeah, we thought that was very dumb. And then we thought people wanting to hire coaches that lost earlier just because they could hang out with them more before they could hang out with anybody else was dumb. I thought that was stupid. The best coaches are on the teams that are going the furthest. Not always, but you can kind of assume that's the case. And you're going to hire before you can even meet that person because they're in the middle of a Super Bowl run.

Isn't that what you're trying to do? So the fact that the NFL kind of put like mandates on that to happen, I like that move. I do like that move. Now let's talk about some other big news. Down in Miami. What was that all about? Here's a video of Tyree Kill after the game yesterday

chitchatting about his future for both himself and his career. I mean, for me, like I said, man, I just gotta do what's best for me and my family, dog. If that's here or that, wherever the case may be, I'm finna open that door for myself. I'm opening the door. I'm out, bro.

It was great playing here, but at the end of the day, I gotta do what's best for my career and what's best. Because I'm too much of a competitor to be you know yes hey all right you got it hey he's like uh he's like Kramer from Seinfeld he opened the door and he was out at the same time you know I mean he bang-bbam-boom he's out of here, you know in the same statement. What are you hearing down there? It's pretty crazy. Miami Dolphins talked as I spent four and a half hours on a tube with a Miami Dolphins fan this morning

Well, I'll just say that the year started with Tyree kill news and it's ending with Tyree kill news because That that's a wild postgame commentary to offer at the end of a season. Like, you know, he can say whatever he wants, but it feels like this has been building and going on for quite some time. It just feels like he's hinted at this and wanting to be traded and there's been whispers about wanting to be traded and there's been whispers about wanting to be traded. And I also think we've got a situation where, you know, yesterday he was heard and didn't

play. Like, there's more to this. And clearly there are enough issues there yesterday that tell you that I think their future together is murky is murky and we'll see how each side decides to handle it going forward. They were lurking now it's murky with Tyreek Hill. What is happening with Tua? Tongue of Loa saw him yesterday.

I don't want to say checked out but seemingly just kind of not as involved as he was the week before on the sideline that week before on the sideline kind of came out of nowhere. Is he okay? What's his future look like? Well, he's got a hip injury and it's the same hip that had surgery in college It's not the same injury, but it is the same hip And I think it's a case where if they had gone to the playoffs he could have pushed to play But look you could see early on yesterday. Denver was winning big

the dolphins warrant and it was a case where Miami Uh as soon as the game started didn't have a realistic chance to get to the postseason. So, um, you know, I, two has got to get that hip well and right. And obviously it's troublesome that it is the same hip, but he'll have time now to rest it up and get it ready for the 20, 25 season. Okay. So there's zero, this is good. His hip is going to be completely fine going forward.

We're gonna be good. Two is back 100% next year. That's the understanding, yes. But let's see what happens during the off season, yes. It's good news, Gump. It's good news, Gump. That's good news for the Finn fam. Speaking of the Finn fam, D-Butch,

Tyree Kill might be gone, but two is back. That's good news. Mr. Plyos, maybe next year. Great, great, great, great news. I obviously don't love it. Obviously, too, you know, you want him to be healthy, but it's a violent game. He did seem a little checked out over there on the sideline with the shades on. Cool shades.

That was a little surprising to see him. Sunglasses. Yeah, to see him, shades, sunglasses, specs, whatever you want to call him. Didn't love that. Then Tyreke, he just got a new deal at the beginning of this year. And then like Chef, he said, now you're, you know, you went to, you left Kansas City,

Kansas City back to back Super Bowl champs, going for number three. Maybe he's missing that. Wouldn't mind seeing him at the Chargers or the Ravens next year. But anyway, another big question. I have something that surprised me hearing from Jay Glazer yesterday,

that team is may possibly be looking to trade for Kevin O'Connell who is going into his last year of his deal I expect a deal to get done pretty quickly here with Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings But what are you hearing on that front? Well, I think these are the situations that get addressed usually after the season I you know The Vikings aren't gonna grant anybody permission to go talk to Kevin O'Connell in season and then after the season. The Vikings aren't going to grant anybody permission to go talk to Kevin O'Connell in season. And then after the season, the owners will have a chance to do an extension with him. And if they do the extension, it's not an issue. And if they don't do an extension, then obviously there are decisions to make because he'd be going into the last year of his contract.

So I think that's what it's about. It's about his future. And I think right now, the Vikings are focused on their season. They got a big Monday night game against the Rams. We'll see how that goes. And I think after their season ends, whenever it ends, they can figure out the Kevin O'Connell situation. I'm going to guess safely that the Wilts don't want him going anywhere. Who reps Kevin O'Connell? How many agents are there for coaches? There's a lot of different agents. I'm trying to think who his rep is. I am unsure. Is this a Jimmy Sexton option?

Is this a Jimmy Sexton operation? I don't think he's Jimmy Sexton. If he's Jimmy Sexton, this is all good plan. It's Jimmy Sexton's that have you ever seen that dude's melon? It is gigantic in the business acumen inside of it is always humming at about a thousand miles an hour because I don't think Kevin O'Connell is the only one. Tone has a question for you, Shefty.

Yeah, I do Shefty. Now, I think you know and I know that this may be a long shot, but there was also reports of Mike Tomlin teams reaching out potentially about trading for Mike Tomlin as a Steelers fan forever, I think there's less than a 0% chance this happens, but I wanted to ask you about it.

Yeah, well, I know we talked about it on Sunday countdown, raised the idea that a couple of teams were pondering, and I think one team actually looked into it and uncovered the fact that his contract has a no trade clause in it. So even if Pittsburgh wanted to trade in, which we've gotten zero indication that it does, they couldn't do that without his permission because he's got a no trade clause in his contract.

So that's there again, that doesn't stop teams, whether it's Mike Tomlin or Kevin O'Connell or Kyle Shanahan or whoever to call up a team and say, would your organization have any interest in listening to conversations? And Pittsburgh doesn't seem to be interested. Minnesota doesn't seem to be interested. San Francisco doesn't seem interested. You can want anybody you want, but there has to be somebody that's willing to engage. And right now, currently, none of those teams are.

Now could something change in the off season? Sure. But right now, none of them are. When was the last time a coach was traded? I remember Herm Edwards was traded right from the Jetson Chiefs. Sean Payton, Sean Payton, the Broncos had to give compensation to the New Orleans Saints. John Gruden was traded from the Raiders. John Gruden was traded from the readers John Gruden was traded harm Edwards was traded not likely right I mean that's not normal I

didn't know that's pretty sick yeah no trade clauses what from Jets the Patriots or where was he's gonna be joining us in about 45 minutes I should know this information Belichick was traded from where? Browns? He was traded from the Jets, the Patriots. But then he say, I'm not, I ain't doing it or I ain't going to be here. Memory serves me correct. There was, well, is it either Parcells or Belichick, New England had to give draft pick compensation for one, if not both of those coaches. I'm trying to remember,

maybe it was the Jets compensating the Patriots for Parcells, but maybe the Patriots had to give up for Vilachev. I'd have to go look at it off the top of my head, what, what, 25 years ago. So it's a while back, but there was compensation involved with coaches and those two organizations, that I remember. Very abnormal thing to happen. Sean Payton in the Denver Broncos gotta be happy

with whatever they gave up to the Saints to pull his ass out of television. Speaking of coming out of television, there's a guy that's currently on the internet that's lurking that you just mentioned. Ty, I have a question for you. Yeah, Shepty, I think it was either last week or two weeks ago, there was a report floating around

that John Gruden has kind of become like a hot name amongst teams and our teams are monitoring his situation. Have you heard that? And what's the likelihood that Gruden has kind of become like a hot name amongst teams and our teams are monitoring his situation. Have you heard that? And what's the likelihood that Gruden either gets interviewed or actually has a head coaching job come next year? I have heard that. And I think there are people out there who think that he's going to be in contention for some of these jobs. We'll see how that plays out.

I have not heard him officially interviewing anywhere, but I think somebody who has accomplished as much as he has always is gonna draw some looks and attention. I think that there are people who believe that he could get back in the game. I'm a John Gruden fan and would love to see that happen. I think he's great for the game,

but don't know how close right now that is to happening Okay, don't take him from the internet yeah, we need him near him still there he is so good on the internet Jager is uh He's got a unique way of expressing a lot of different things That's why he's so good in the booth a lot of different things. That's why he's so good in the booth. Boston Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Shafty, some news this morning was Deshaun Watson's rehab had a setback and now his status

for 2025 is uncertain. So basically going forward, that'll be known as the worst trade and contract in the history of the NFL. And now no players get a guaranteed contract, but that that's completely beside the point. Do you think that the Browns now that they sit at the second overall pick are going to consider drafting a quarterback in this upcoming class or do you see them maybe signing like a veteran a la Kirk Cousins if he's a free agent? I think that they were

considering drafting a quarterback at two and signing a free agent before this Deshaun Watson diagnosis that came in this morning. I think that when you look at that draft board the way it sits they're sitting there with the number two pick I think everybody would assume that Tennessee potentially could go quarterback at one so Cleveland could get one of the top two quarterbacks in this draft. Now this is a conversation that we'll be having a lot leading up to the draft is there a quarterback that's worth taking ahead of some of these positional players

like a Travis Hunter? These are decisions that teams will make, but Cleveland all along was always going to be in the quarterback market, always. I don't believe they're counting on Deshaun Watson starting or saving their season. If he comes along and plays, great. If he doesn't, then that's the way it is. But they were gonna go out and strengthen that position no matter what. Whether it's through the draft or through free agency or through trade or any combination of those factors. The Browns are gonna change

that quarterback room next season. It ain't gonna be Bailey's happy starting an opening day next year. So we'll see how that works out. They're gonna I would I would expect that they have a new starting quarterback on opening day in 2025. And then is that the same guy that's in 2026? Well they would like that to be the case of course I mean in their world they maybe they drag the guy That contract right with the Sean they can't they literally cannot get I know what Denver's that to be the case, of course. I mean, in their world, they maybe they draft that contract right with the Sean, they can't they literally cannot get I know

what Denver's eaten with Russell Wilson is like what 50 million or something and then they have 40 million other in dead cap money. I put a number on what he said Brad fact checked. That by the way, you touched on Devon, I want to address that for a moment because Denver is carrying over $80 million in dead cap this year. $80 million. So, I want you to think about the job that that organization has done, carrying that dead money. And you talked about going out and getting Sean Payton, right?

Well, I think that was key. And then he identified early in the process, Bo Nix, as a guy that he was enamored with right away. I mean, early in the process. That was going to be his guy. And if you have a head coach as sharp as Sean and a quarterback like Bo Nix, who Steve Spagnolo this past weekend was comparing to a junior version of Josh Allen. Now again, it's early, a lot of time left, but to even be in that conversation is something

considering the poor play that the Broncos have gotten at that position. They haven't been to the playoffs since 2015. They turned it around, they've got their coach, they've got their quarterback, they're feeling great. I mean, that's unbelievable, all the dead cat money, the job that that organization did, so well done by them.

Where were we going? I forget I let's just finish this point then we'll get back to the Cleveland Browns potentially eating all that dead cap like the the rest hold on the hold on hold on hold on chef day Jesus Jesus to make your point about Sean Payton loving Bo Nicks here's him on our draft night spectacular literally 15 minutes after he drafted him. The thing that was most impressive, and we have these things, Pat and Bill knows that we have critical factors. You know, we don't want linebackers that can't tackle receivers that can't.

I mean, there's certain things that are must. Yes. And I think it's hard. I think it's hard to be an NFL quarterback if you're not somewhat accurate and watch his pro day and then we were there for the pro day and then our private workout was the following day and we threw 80 more balls. And I can't think of a pass where, and so the first sign of an inaccurate quarterback is when you're throwing these shorter routes because the ball's got to be on the right shoulder. It's got to be on the, you know, for the back, the camera work. It's a little bit easier down the field to stretch the ball and maybe hide your accuracy deficiencies.

And so, man, it's, it was impressive. And I just remember we got in the car afterwards. And I just looked around and I said, Are you kidding me? I mean, the other thing was I was surprised how big he is. He's 6'2", 218 pounds. It's hard sometimes when you play on the West Coast, your games are on at 9 p.m. But yeah, I think the biggest thing is trust in what you're seeing. And I say that respectfully, everyone has jobs to do. And it's always like, well, manage the draft. You could have backed up and got him. And I say that respectfully, everyone has jobs to do. And it's always like, well, manage the draft. This is, you know, you could have backed up and got him. And I heard that with Patrick Mahomes

when Kansas City took him and I'm like, well, they couldn't have backed up and got him because we were taking him with the next pick. Okay, so Sean Payton was gonna draft Patrick Mahomes and he fell in love with Bo Nix when he threw 80 more balls the day after his pro day and went bananas. So they were willing to move forward without Russell Wilson taking the cap hit with a rookie quarterback.

Now they're in the playoffs. What a wonderful turnaround. The Browns though, they would be eating a massive amount of salary cap just like the Broncos chose to do. Go ahead, Shefty. Here's what I was going to say. We've got, I think, a couple of teams that have provided roadmaps to the Cleveland Browns to show how it's done.

A couple of years ago, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers had a similar amount in dead cap money, and they went out and got an unwanted quarterback in Baker Mayfield and turned around their franchise. We see the Denver Broncos with over $80 million in cap charges go out and draft Bo Nicks and turn around their franchise. So if you're Cleveland now, in a perfect world, you're going to go draft a guy and maybe you go get Kurt Cousins because Kurt Cousins is going to get to choose the place that he plays being that the Falcons are basically going to be paying his salary in 2025. So whether that's Cleveland or somewhere else, he's going to get to go pick where he wants to go play in 2025.

But the Browns know even with that contract, in an ideal world, you get a rookie that you're carrying a rookie quarterback contract, that that rookie makes it in this league and can help offset the Deshaun contract over the course of the remaining term of it. In that rookie contract, that quarterback position is so vital, which is why the people in Atlanta have so many questions. But hey, you know, Kurt Cousins is gonna be on the market probably quickly in due time, they'll get that all sorted. So will Andrew Berry in the Browns, I assume.

Go ahead, AJ. Shifty, what do you think the the Jets do obviously with the head coaching search and also with Aaron Rodgers situation? I know Aaron said after the game they asked them People it was rumored that people close to you said this may be your last game. You're probably done playing I thought that was AJ. I thought that might been you chef T Can you clear that up at all and what do you think Aaron does? What do you think the Jets do at the core at the head coach? Yeah, I know I about his future

He was the one that talked about his future and he was the one that acknowledged that it could be his last game So any comments about his future? Came from him as I said anybody that has a documentary and hope I pronounce it right this time because I butchered yesterday called Enigma When you got a documentary on the enigma, I'm not gonna predict Anyway I don't I don't I don't my brain is thinking of our Aaron Aaron does what he wants to, but he's the one, he's the one that acknowledged that it could be his last year. And obviously he wants to take some time and we'll see what he decides to do. If he wants to still play, he's certainly talented enough and capable enough and there are enough teams in this league that have a need at that position that I think there

will be a spot for him. But that's something that he has to figure out whether he wants to do first is he want to come back and put himself through all that all over again. A lot of people, there aren't many people that get to play till they're 41. And when they do that, they know how hard it is to get their bodies and minds right to play again. So if he wants to come back and play, there'll be work for him. But that's something that he has to decide first.

And Broadway Joe said he's still got it. I seen it with my own eyes. He said and broadway jose said he still got it i see what my eyes and said i got it this guy still got it he still spent after watching i a rogers play that there's no doubt because he's western pennsylvania guy he's always know your so if he wants to i'd love to see him stay with the jets he could definitely help the new gm and coach as well as play ball huh he's still thrown with accuracy and most importantly here shepty as you know authority that is uh is the biggest thing. I saw Brice Hall

retweet this, I do believe. What is, I mean, that's just all depends on who they hire, I guess, on whether or not they do it. But how many teams are going to want a quarterback, you think? How many teams are going to want a quarterback? Well, I think you could look at this and there's going to be a minimum of seven teams in the quarterback market. Minimum. Hold. You want me to hold on? I got a list here. Well, it's a couple more. All that top three in the draft.

You're what you've called it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give me one more. Cause there's an M in there. There's an M in there. Yeah.

You know, I don't even want to speculate. I don't either. Um, um, maybe we go through this. I don't know. Maybe we go through this. I don't know what he said. There are a lot of there are a lot of there are a lot of teams in the quarterbacks and they're always going to be teams that need quarterbacks. Okay. All right.

Now, speaking of quarterbacks usually win the MVP. I would like us to have a conversation with our AP voter about how the comeback player of the year is not an award. It's no longer an award that is just given out to the person who sucks one year and then plays great the next year. Tone, this is a PSA. This needs to be made. People are making bets right now on you're an AP voter, so you're actually giving away

maybe your vote here in this entire thing. People should listen to it just as a bad bet to begin with because you're a voter deciding these things Yeah, so I I put out the tweet and I want to read it just so you know It changed after last year with the damar and joe flacco joe flacco winning comeback player of the year Whether it is someone who is the most improved player or someone who has you know overcome an injury or something like that? So the the spirit of the award is to honor a player who has demonstrated resilience in the face of adversity by overcoming illness, physical injury,

or other circumstances that led him to miss playing time the previous season. So yeah, yesterday Sam Darnold was the betting favorite at a lot of sportsbooks, but there wasn't anything that led him to miss time the previous season other than Brock Purdy was the starting quarterback and Sam Darnold was not so and I and the AP reached out and they said thank you for putting out out the tweet but also like Sam Darnold is not he is not not allowed Sam Darnold is allowed to win

the award as long as you are not a rookie you are allowed to win the award based on they're not the AP is not gonna tell you who you can and who you cannot vote for But in the spirit of the word I put out that tweet and it just doesn't like it seems like after Gino won And then Flacco won Sam would be in that category this year But after last year they kind of changed the spirit of the war to someone who has overcome something like an injury or an illness Or something like that most of us Mar Hamlin won over Joe Flacco and didn't

And so, you know if Sam Darnold wins it he'd be worthy and and by the way that brings us back to quarterback So the teams with quarterback issues for a moment if you don't mind Giants Saints all means Seahawks jets Steelers Browns Colts Titans Raants, Saints, Seahawks, Jets, Steelers, Browns. Who told you Colts? Who told you Colts? You think they're count? I mean, like they, it's all solved. I don't know. I don't know anything. I don't know anything.

I put it down on my list as one of the teams that has a quarterback question. Nobody told it to me. Punditry. I put it down my list is one of the teams that has a quarterback question. Nobody told it to me. Punditry. They have a quarterback quick. They again, we're classifying as teams with quarterback questions for 25. Like a lot of questions in Indianapolis. Hey, do you have any questions in Indianapolis?

Yeah, how do you get well that's Drake may obviously the answer up there in New England. Congratulations. Obviously you should be pumped about that with the new coach. Hopefully he'll be able to put a winning culture in their speaking when culture you read jim ursay's letter alongside of us is that when you found out was going on in the

alone you know uh... well what i said yesterday you know we were texture i i said to you i think they're safe right tonight as it in the morning and we had a good day to get the text right yeah i don't know how exactly before the game was even really played how do you I said that to you in the morning. Yeah, you did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did.

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You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. at home to go into the off season and that thing was put out pretty quick so i feel like he had a decision made before the game even started but hopefully they're able to turn around we can't thank you enough what do we not ask about that we should ask about and what do you think is coming through your phone every 10 seconds there has to be something to wait on i think the most interesting yeah well the most there were there were only three missed calls and 11 missed texts so we'll

get to that phone but um that's the most interesting thing today. You know, this is a day, usually you're talking about all the moves that are made and people that teams are moving on from, uh, like there's your list of firing so far. And I think it's more notable today. All the people that are being kept. I think that is more interesting today than Chris Greer, Don Aaron Miami, Balky, Don and Jacksonville, Ballard in Indianapolis. What's going on Vegas?

Do we know what's going on out there? Able and Shane in New York, like there's a lot of people being kept that there were questions about. So Antonio Pierce is scheduled to meet with the media here in about 20 minutes. Now, again, they're letting to meet with the media here in about 20 minutes. Now again, they're letting him meet with the media and I guess the Bears did that and fire the guy.

Yeah. So anything could always happen. But, and I still think the Antonio Pierce situation could go either way, but, but my sense has been that he, I think, I think he'll be safe, but if Mark, this is a Mark Davis decision, it's hard to predict what he's thinking exactly. Right. But I know that he and Antonio Pierce have had multiple meetings on a regular basis talking about the future planning for the future. And so my, my gut is that he is likely to be back but I also look um man mark davis got you in a blender brother he's got you in a blender right now

mark davis got you in a blender you think you don't want to put your credibility on the line by saying yes from what i've heard potentially but then there's a chance no you're dancing with it right now you're dancing well yeah yeah well Pat a lot of these things are like that you know I mean they're not easy to predict so well we appreciate the hell out of what you do you're the man ladies and gentlemen Adam Schiff we'll be back on the other side I'll be live from the Intuit Dome AJ will be out at the Thunderdome we'll see you then goodbye from ESPN podcast and Omaha productions.

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Packers, a Super Bowl champion, a national champion at the Ohio State University, massive week college football playoffs, semi-finals, Thursday and Friday AJ down in Miami, then in Dallas. How do you feel? You a little bit nervous for the Ohio State boys? Or you think the time is now for the Buckeyes? No, I think the time is now for the Buckeyes, but it is a real thing. Now there's all these expectations. I believe they're the favorite to win the national championship,

all of these things. The dynamic kind of changes around the team. I think the team inside and what they've been doing day to day stays the same. But I think now fans, I don't know how you guys feel, but fans get a little bit nervous when things like this happen. Now you're not the underdog, you're not as much the chip on the shoulder team. Now you're expected to win. Now it's a little bit different, I think.

Happened with the Packers this year for sure. Without a doubt, and yikes. Expectations are tough sometimes for teams to deal with. But luckily, I think the teams insulate themselves very, very well. As Michael Cole is getting strapped in, I guess next year, huh, Pat? Yeah, Michael Cole came stomping around earlier while I was doing the intro to the second hour, obviously. He came stomping it fresh out of a meeting.

How do we feel? Looks happy. Done a massive night here for the WWE. And also congrats to the Intuit, though. Being in the place that is majestic and magical. And obviously this is Rocco setting up Michael Cole right now great name great name came up with this gimmick right here you know this gimmick right here instead of the belt thing thanks for giving me one of these little hook things genius Rocco big-ass brain big

ass brain that's WWE stuff Michael Cole is a giant guy thanks for having me Pat Cole we're talking about the college football playoffs. No problem. Thank you for having... Uh-oh. Something's happening. Something's happening. I think we're feeding the house.

Or we were. No, no, no. That was probably me just yelling. There was a bunch of static. We're back. Okay. How do you... I'm crystal clear.

Michael looks great. There's a little something. Thank you, guys. Did you hear that? You look like a dark old man. It's gone now. It's gone. Yeah, it was there for a second. Connor, nice hat. Thank you guys. Did you hear that? You look like a dork. It's gone now. It's gone. Yeah, it was there for a second.

Connor, nice hat. Thanks brother. Take knees. Sick Super Bowls, bitch. I could never touch this. By the way, thanks for taking Vrabel from us too. No problem. Jets are gonna jet.

You guys are gonna suck forever. He's never going there. Michael Cole, thank you for joining us. Massive night with WWE. There's still a static in my ear, but that might just be the brain. No, no, it has stopped. Great us. Massive night with WWE. They're still ecstatic in my ear, but that might just be the brain. No, no, it has stopped great work, whoever that was doing whatever.

Huge night here at the Intuitum. We just had a production meeting for the show. Paul Triple H Levesque, of course, our chief content officer gave us a nice pep speech. And he's really, really excited, very emotional as we all are. This changes the game. Not only for professional wrestling, really excited, very emotional as we all are. This changes the game.

Not only for professional wrestling, sports entertainment, it changes the game for all of entertainment. We're going to become the first show to stream live weekly on Netflix. Obviously, we've talked about the NFL, we've talked about the Tyson Paul fight. This is a game changer for across the board entertainment wise. Forget professional wrestling. Now for us, huge game changer, especially with Netflix getting into the NFL and a relationship with the WWE.

A lot of people thought about yesterday, today and tomorrow whenever it comes to technology and how people are going to consume stuff. Everybody thinks tomorrow is already here where everybody's already streaming. Everybody's already on the internet. Linear television obviously still very important linear television Still put up massive numbers I think the Rose Bowl got like 21 million or something viewers by Nielsen standard, which what is that? I don't know

But what about the what about the alt cast the numbers that the McAfee alt cast did for the Rose Bowl the boys crushed it Obviously, we had a good time. They said most ever boys. He said most ever The boys crushed it. Obviously we had a good time. They said most ever boys. They said most ever. Most ever. Most ever boys. Very good.

2.5 million. We had a good time out there, 2.4. I liked what you did there, oversell. I appreciate you doing that. Well that's what I do. I'm a wrestler now. Yeah, absolutely. Michael Cole with the sell.

But you, we're lucky to do that ESPN2. I think that type of game is what the all cast is actually meant for, you know, cause it's a blowout. So let's go do that. I think these next two games, the Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl are going to be fantastic. But let's talk about what we were chatting about, about how linear television still matters. Streaming is certainly the future, but nobody knew when that was going to happen.

This leap right here for Monday Night Raw, which has been on USA for 30 years or whatever since 1993, going to a streaming platform globally is a massive move for the industry. And WWE has been ahead of schedule on these types of decisions for everything that has happened throughout technology advancing. And I want to let you know as a small business owner with the boys, we would like to say thanks to you and to everybody here for kind of blazing a trail when it comes to business wise and negotiation.

The $5 billion deal. WWE going to Netflix. We did blow it though with tout. Yeah, that was, I didn't follow you there though. If it means anything, none of us followed you there, which was part of the problem. But it's like, this deal is huge. And Netflix, obviously, I just said the number, very invested.

And it feels like the WWE is, I don't wanna say reinvigorated, but it does feel like a very refreshing rebirth feel almost in this entire thing. Pat, you mentioned linear TV, of course, NXT is on the CW. We've got SmackDown on the USA Network. So very, very important to our company that we're still on those platforms. But Netflix, 282 million worldwide subscribers. WWE is going to be available, all of our stuff is going to be available in 80% of the globe.

Holy. Of course, the United States, Netflix has Monday Night Raw and then some of the catalog, of course, but 80% of the globe, WWE is going to be a part of. This small local promotion that started in the 1960s and 70s is now this global conglomerate that we're lucky to be a part of. Very lucky. You are a goat in this business, brother. Thank you.

You need to know that. And I'm lucky to be welcomed back. I love seeing all the people. How excited are you for tonight? So pumped. So you're gonna get an entrance in this place tonight. I shouldn't, but I, the more I've been learning too from people,

it's great to see everybody. Everybody here is awesome. The best. Frosty down there, my guy. Yeah, bingo, Frosty. I mean, everybody. You talk about Rocko down there with Frosty. I'm learning. Good name, good guy.

But everybody in the tech that set this whole thing up, WWE is great. They're going to kill it tonight and crush it throughout this entire Netflix deal, which we're incredibly thankful for. You said the entire globe is your little Wayne on a game, the NFL game day morning yesterday. Yes. He said that Baker Mayfield has a chip on his shoulder to size of earth. If there is such a thing as a planet or something like that. What does that mean?

Well I think we all all of us have a chip on our shoulder right? Yeah but what about planet Earth not being a planet? What do you mean by that? What did Sol Wayne say? Yeah planet Earth. He said planet Earth. But then he said if it's even real. Well I mean come on. Is he talking about the chip on his shoulder? Oh whoa whoa us conspiracy theories. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We didn't know. We got some good ones. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know.

We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know.

We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. done in Saudi Arabia. Bingo! That's what I'm talking about. It's just an incredible experience being over there and see how that country has grown and what we've done over there for

the past six or seven years. And Pat, it's amazing. I mean, you went to Ireland for Game Day this year. Oh man. It was a great experience. Yeah, it was. For everyone. But we get to travel the globe. I mean, we've got a three-week European tour coming up in March. And to be able to go to these different countries and the way that we're treated and the way to see the WWE fans that sell out in all of these different arenas. It's absolutely incredible that we've become not only a part of American culture, but international culture now and Netflix is just going to expand that. For instance, tonight, one of the jobs that you and I are going to have to do is explain

to the world who our characters are. Who's Liv Morgan, who's Rhea Ripley, who's CM Punk, who's Seth Rollins without insulting the long time fans because we're going to have a lot of new viewers here tonight. We're going to have a lot of Laps fans that may not have joined us since like the Attitude era. So we're going to have to explain who is Seth Rollins, who is CM Punk. Seth freaking Rollins, have a little respect for these dudes. Why are they important to our product and also you know basically to the world because

these guys just don't wrestle they do so many other things that are important to the entertainment and yeah WWE is so good to the community I mean it is it's an honor to be here brother I can't wait to watch you work. Ty Schmidt has a question about the WWE. Hi Ty. Michael Cole. Hey Cole how you doing? I'm just curious, have you, obviously we always talk about the wrestling business and how it's just a grind, people are on the road nonstop. Have you noticed with the superstars that there's like, maybe they're a little bit more reinvigorated,

there's an extra pep in their step with the move to Netflix, because obviously this is a massive deal and a massive opportunity for a lot of them as well. So Ty, I think there's a they're reinvigorated by a number of things. I think number one the schedule has gotten better for the superstars. We don't do as many live events as we have in the past. We're really putting on all of our energy into our television shows whether it's NXT, SmackDown or Monday Night Raw. I think that has a lot to do with it. I think the new regime has really helped as well. Triple H, and I've said this in a number of different interviews, he understands that he has an all-star team here in this company. Not only the superstars in the

ring, but the announcers, the camera guys, the audio guys, the props people, the television production people. He understands that we're an all-star team and that we know how to do our job. And he basically sits back and allows us to do what we do best. And I think that freedom has really allowed the superstars, and I know for me and I know for Pat as well, has allowed us to be more entertaining, to be more relaxed,

to be able to sit back and enjoy this product as a fan. And also, who knows characters better than the character, right? I mean, Seth Rollins knows his character better than anybody on the planet, so why not allow him to be able to bring that character forward? And that's one of the things that this company is allowing us to do now. That's an empowerment leadership style. And I think Mr. H, Hunter Hunter Paul, if you will, is certainly somebody trying to log into an Apple account that just popped up on the screen.

Somebody needs to check their Apple account. Yeah, it just popped up on the screen. Everybody needs to know that that is happening. But Mr. H for me, because I started in NXT, you know, a lot of wrestling people forget that. I cut my teeth down there. NXT legend, and that was when Triple H was running it. Did you just say NXT legend?

You heard him. Yeah, main event, main event at the PLE. Speaking short. We called him PPVs back in my day. Remember? I main evented one of them. You recall? You did.

Went off top of a cage. Yeah, he did. Lost the Undisputed Era, still don't? You did. One off top of a cage. Yeah, he did. Lost the Unspeeded Arrows, still don't understand that one. Still don't understand that one. But nonetheless, Triple H has been awesome since the beginning. Tremendous.

To me and I think to everybody, go ahead. Tremendous, and again, he's just empowered us, like you said, and he lets us do what we do. I mean, I've seen everything in this business for nearly 30 years. I have never had as much fun as I've had the last couple of years. Not only working with you, but also working with Paul.

You and I are gonna step it up a level tonight. We are. Hell yeah. This Netflix deal is gonna be pretty exciting. There's gonna be a lot more freedom. Listen, we're not gonna go off the reservation. It's not gonna be a, you know, we're not turning this into an R-rated broadcast.

Boo! We're a movie friendly show, but we're gonna have a lot of fun. There's the attitude air fans, laugh fans, don't you worry about what the rating is. Okay, don't you worry about, we'll be able to get our point across. Okay. Okay. So when some scumbag comes walking out here,

we're gonna make sure we paint the picture to the entire globe. If there is such a thing, we'll wait and let them know that this is a piece of trash, a garbage bag of a human being. And that's the job. That's why that open that they're going to show is so impressive. Triple H voiced it over. They released it on social media.

It basically tells the story of professional wrestling from the carnival days, obviously the territory days, to everything and what it is to the world, like you said. And man, professional wrestling has always been my first love you know it was what I wanted to be Monday nights was like what an escape everybody on there was rich in my eyes and they were athletic and they could talk shit it's like that's this is my world and then you just disappear in it because so many different things can happen and tonight with the usage of this place I mean it's gonna be it's like an IMAX this entire place is a fucking IMAX wait till you see

That cold open you're talking about play at the start of Netflix tonight in this building the rehearsals were Amazing it's gonna be absolutely incredible to see this on your television screen tonight Oh, you know you talk about professional wrestling, and I think you know I'm like you I was a kid brought up in New York and watching the old WWWF with my grandmother. Wow, how'd he get all those U's? That was unbelievable. That was six of them. That was six U's.

Midnight on a WOR out of New York, went to Syracuse University, saw the first WrestleMania on closed circuit at the Landmark Theater there, got away from it for a little bit, came back in 1997 and I said it next to you at WrestleMania when Cody Rhodes finished his story this past year. Great call. I love professional wrestling and it is an amazing outlet to be able to sit on your couch on a Monday night, crack open a beer or soda or whatever your taste is and sit back and watch the good guys battle the bad guys.

And there's nothing better than it. I agree. I'm so lucky and thankful to be back. D-Bots has a question for you, Michael Cole. Yeah, speaking of the bad guys, I can't wait to lock in tonight on this new era. But let's talk a little football. New York Jets, your search has been far and wide. Bad guys, D-Bots.

You know, GMs, man, coaches. D-Bots, I'm trying to enjoy my day. Before you get into it, I just want to know what do you think about the search so far, and who do you want at that GM head coach role going forward? Well, the guy I wanted is going to be stolen by Conor's Patriots, but that was great. I want Aaron Glenn.

I want Aaron Glenn. I want Aaron Glenn to come back to New York. I want him to come back and win a Super Bowl with the Jets. I've always liked Aaron Glenn. I want him to come back and I want him to finally get us a winning season here. Quarterback-wise, I have no idea what we're going to do. Aaron had a great year number-wise, obviously. Who knows what's going to happen with him? Obviously, issues with the owner. I was a big Sam Darnold guy this year, I've always been a big Sam Darnold guy, but last night he didn't impress me too much, I don't know if we want to spend money on that. Do we go after JJ McCarthy?

I just don't know, but I want Aaron Glenn to be our head coach next year. Aaron Glenn, the absolute dog, cooked up Sam Darnold last night, people were saying, and you know, Sam missed a couple, you know, I think it was good to get that game out of the way before they have a big one against the Rams and then potentially a repeat of this game two weeks from now. What did you think of the Aaron Rodgers experience if it is over there? In New York, you know because you said immediately that something's gonna go wrong and I said it on this show What do we say Connor? We said he was a pessimistic prick. Yeah You know what we kind of said? Yeah, just negative Nancy just never really being optimistic about the jet situation always from day one

Yeah, pitiful Patty almost we were so I said on this show When Aaron Rodgers assigned that something's going to happen for plays into the season. He blows his Achilles. It's your fault Yeah, okay came back this year universe. Hey age. You're right. I mean think about it, right? Maybe it a man effect code. Did you are you worried that you like you manifested that? Okay, I may I may have done that but listen I've suffered through the jets for 50 years So you want the only one a lot of people were saying it was gonna happen and then it did happen It did and then this year happens. Well, here's the thing about it's like a blink of an eye and it's over remember We're in the summer at Tahoe age

It was just like holy shit The the dreams of what the Jets were gonna be be. There was going to be a fucking parade. You remember that? Right through Manhattan. Dude, when we buried the Patriots. He was rocked up, so was Greeny. Remember how rocked up Greeny was? Greeny was like, cut it off.

The third game of the year against the Patriots, Rogers looked unstoppable. The Jets looked unbelievable. We destroyed Conor's Patriots. I looked unstoppable. The Jets looked unbelievable. We destroyed Connor's Patriots. Oh my God. I was texting you that night, it's finally great to have a quarterback. It's finally great to have an offense. And then it all went downhill. Listen, you can't blame Aaron for this because the owner's insane.

He's got to sell the team. He got rid of Salah, which I liked at the time. And then he put Brick in charge and then the defense goes down the shitter. And I mean, it was just terrible. Aaron had a great year number wise. Yeah. He did. So how you doing? How you doing? The defense, the defense shit the bed, bottom line. And I think a lot of that had to do

with them moving brick into the head coaching position and took his Johnson mind off the offense Coach old brick. Yes Yeah, no us guys call brick yeah us guys do too, but there's two bricks in the house Yes needs to be a lot of coach Yeah, I can't believe they're actually gonna interview that guy for the job, but nonetheless Rick yeah brick Yeah, what's what's brick are you talking the head coach? From New York, I know got it your times taught us that yep

We're trying to do some hashtag journalistic stay. Hey, you look great in that spot there. Maybe you should do that every day. I don't think so. You look awesome there. Look at that. I know you're trying to get Pat with you full time on the road. That three week Europe trip sounds great. Pat, are you excited for that run? Yeah. Yeah, Pat. What's that? AJ.

Brussels. I'm very excited. I saw it. I'm pumped up. It's an honor to get a chance to go over to Europe and overseas. I think these ones are going to be in and out. I can't be out there in Europe for over 24 hours. That's what I've learned about me. That's what I've learned about me. Too much good times. The people. I mean, I assume it happens whenever you guys show up in the cities. When you're not there all the time. This happens with College Game Day a lot. College Game Day, we go to a lot of places often because their teams are very good So they're a part of very big games on a regular basis

So it's the right play to go to the biggest game But some of the fan bases get to a point where they're like maybe next year they'll go to Syracuse got it Friends a dog. Yeah got in shower for a while. He told dabbo you could thank me did the whole thing I do respect that one the what ball game was that? Oh god, I don't remember. I watched it too against Washington State But some of the some of the crowds get a little bit used to game day coming I think yeah, you know, sir So it's a little bit different now always gonna have the great energy from the students But it's like the extra people that kind of pour in and really make that a special place and it always is every week has

Been awesome But when you go to a place that you've never been before or for the first time or anything like that, it's like those places go crazy. Did you see Cal Berkeley? Yeah. Insane. Insane. Because you don't go there.

It's like us going to Europe once a year. We've never done television as far as I remember in Brussels, Belgium, and we're going to do that the first time in March, and that place is going to be crazy. But you weren't a part of it, but the crowd in it was insane and and and each and every international trip now that the fans are trying to top what we did the last time around Berlin was crazy listen it's not international but we're coming to your city Indianapolis is gonna crush it the Royal Rumble so you and I are going to we've got a lot of fun we're gonna do the kickoff show,

which is gonna be Friday afternoon. Hell yeah. There's gonna be thousands of people outside the arena for that. And we got the Rumble, over 50,000 tickets have already been sold at Lucas. It's gonna be the biggest Royal Rumble ever. Yeah, it's gonna be gigantic.

And that's what Indianapolis does, it shows up. And also has a lot of loyalty, maybe too much loyalty. I've been in that stadium one time. And that was the time that Mike White got hurt, ruined my season again for the Jets. First quarter, big win for the Colts. Who do we need to score a touchdown there for the parlay? Oh yeah, it was, who was it?

Do you remember that? And you didn't get it. I do remember someone getting sick in the car too, but. Pitman Yards? Yeah, cause remember he had that like tunnel, he had that like tunnel screen and we thought like, oh, there it is, we saw it happening. Yeah, yeah tunnel Yeah, that like tunnel screen and we thought like oh there it is We saw it happen and and then he got like tripped up and we missed about like seven yards or something

It's a beautiful state of go ahead Somebody's about to say something. That was cool. You got to say something. Oh No, I was just gonna say then then somebody got sick in the car after the game, but oh Bailey Hey bill way to go. That's that's how cold remember Massive mark. Hey listen Bill, way to go. That's how Cole remembers it. Bill, massive, massive mark. Hey, listen, so tonight, Netflix, right? This card is WrestleMania level. Yes. Roman Reigns solo, Sokoa for the tribal chief.

Ulafala. And the Ulafala. Solo. CM Punk and Seth Rollins. Seth Freakin' Rollins. May be the most anticipated professionally wrestling match of the last 20 years Incredible the Rocks gonna be here

John Cena's retirement tour a year-long tour starts tonight. Oh, sure Rhea Ripley Liv Morgan for the women's world title Yeah, there's rumors a Hulkster. I think on it. Please That but could be because there's a beer sponsorship that was announced. Yep. Logan Paul is going to be here. And of course, Drew McIntyre, Jey Uso. What? Yes.

It's going to be a crazy night tonight. You and I are going to be sitting at ringside calling it all. You're the man. We appreciate you. Thank you, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, and the greatest of all time when it comes to commentating, wrestling. How many? 27 years?

28 in June. How many miss shows now? I know you're getting- Three. But I'm gonna have a little bit more going forward, I think. Oh, losing it. Yeah, think about enjoying your life. Maybe. Oh, that's Connor saying you're losing it. Well, Connor, I mean, look at the hat he's wearing.

Oh yeah, it's a real bummer. You're not, we're all trying to get there. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Cole. Thanks, Cole. It's real bummer. It's real trying to get there Ladies and gentlemen Michael Cole Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Eastern five Pacific globally. That's right. It's gonna be everywhere and so You're attached Rocco Door he's gonna be here for a bit. My clothes gonna be here for a bit. My clothes gonna be here for a bit. Oh Geez he just is that what he does over there patty just summons people like that keep that suit on heard that Michael's gonna be here for a bit. Michael's gonna be here for a bit. Jeez.

Is that what he does over there, Pat? He just summons people like that? Keep that suit on. You heard that? He looks so good. He does keep the suit on all day. Yeah, I do. He'll show up 8 AM all day, putting it, talk to him.

I remember when you tried to dress like me at WrestleMania. I think I did a pretty good job. Soul patch. Bye, guys. Have fun. See you later. See you later. Good luck, Cole.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man. This guy's awesome, dude. Yeah, the best. From one goat to another, his suit's clean today. He's losing weight, too. He's looking, he's in fighting shape right now. You know, he hikes mountains. What?

All right, I'm not, yeah, that's a whole other story. This guy hikes mountains, like real ones. Like with a weighted thing on his back, probably. Is he a rucker? Yeah, like he's trying to go get him. Like he hikes real ones. Like with a weighted thing on his back probably, is he a rucker? Yeah, like he's trying to go get him. Like he's trying to say, Earth, I did it. You know, nonetheless, joining us now is another GOAT. The greatest of all time when it comes to NFL head coaching and NFL general managing.

Now he's the head coach of the North Carolina Tar Heel football team. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Belichick. Coach, thank you for joining us. Yeah, thank you. Good to be on. Yeah, we're, uh, yeah, Steve and I are out recruiting North Carolina here. First day we're allowed to be out. So here we are. We're on the road.

So Steve, okay. So congrats on all the success with the Patriots. You're the man. You're the man. Good tar heels. Coach. Okay. So we're on the road with you. You're the man, you're the man, good Tar Heels. Coach, okay, so we're on the road with you. You're literally FaceTiming from a car. What are you doing?

You're visiting high schools right now, or how's the day go for you? Yes. Yeah, a couple this morning, a couple this afternoon. We're on, we're also on, I'm officially on Twitter. So, you can follow me there. We definitely will. Bill Belichick, welcome you can follow me there. We definitely will. Bill Belichick, welcome to expo.

Okay, you're on my face earlier. No, sorry, sorry. Face, face, face, whatever it was. Geez, oh, we paused everything there. Oh my God. Hey, yo. Yo, I did social media for a long, everybody relax. Everybody relax, please.

You had social media for a long time, now you're all over it. Obviously, the future is social media. Have you been DMing and have you been connecting and have you been following trends for when you're recruiting these high schoolers or how do you feel going into their world here and kind of talking to 17, 18 year olds? Yeah, it's really, it's fun, Pat. It really is. It's great. It's great to connect with these kids.

They're so enthusiastic. They they see their future ahead of them both in college football and maybe beyond that. So it's exciting to talk to them. We're talking to some really good players and you know, these guys, you know, have a chance to have a long career. So, you know, I just want to be a part of it with them. Coach, can I, I'd like to, if you could tilt the phone over to your son to Steve and

ask him what it's like in his short time at North Carolina. Steve, what's up? Good to see you, buddy. What's it like working with your dad? Obviously, we know you've worked with your dad much in the past, but now at the college level, a new scenery, new place. What's it like being reunited and what do you think this whole path is gonna be? Yeah, no, I'm just excited to be here. I took the red eye a couple nights ago.

So, trying to build the staff, trying to build the team. We've got a long way to go. But yeah, gotta hit the road now and see what's gonna happen. Gotta get some good players on team and figure it out from here. But yeah, gotta get this guy on the road, bring him to college. He's dressed a little bit nicer than me, but it's all about the personality, you know what I'm saying? Hey, a personality and the resume, it seems like you cut your teeth, obviously,

with the greatest dynasty in the history of football. Then you go back to college, to Washington last year. How big of an adjustment was it? What was it like coaching college versus the NFL? No, I had a blast. I had a blast. I really appreciate Coach Fish, all those players out of UW. It was awesome.

It was far from the East Coast, from the right coast, where I'm from. But no, it's good to be back here. But I love working with those guys. They're hungry. And yeah, we'll see what we can do here. Okay, well, I'm excited to watch it. I think D-Bud has a question for you or your dad. Yeah, let me ask coach, Coach Bill about play calling head coaches.

Obviously, we got the cycle right now with coaches being fired and hired. I know Doug Peterson kind of gave up play calling. I know you've been on both sides of a call and plays and not calling plays what type of challenges are added on when you are in charge of game plan and calling plays on a day to day basis when you are the head coach I think if that yeah but that's a great question I think if you decide to go that way you need somebody really strong in other areas and so if you look at the play calling coaches, you know, like Andy Reed,

he's got a great defensive coordinator in SPAGS and great special teams coordinator in Dave. And so, you know, in addition, and a great general manager with Brett there. So, you know, when everybody has the unified vision, they can all do their job well, you know, that really is what you need to make it work when you're trying to call plays and run everything else in the Organization, you know, that's tough. And and so if you want to oversee a lot in the organization, then you probably

Just get caught a little bit short in terms of your play calling because there takes that takes so much preparation as you know For you know all the things that you have to install plus the situation. So I've done it both ways, but I go back to Joe Gibbs at Washington, with Richie Pettibone running the defense. Bill Walsh calling plays and being the head coach, but George Seifert running the defense. I think that model can definitely work, but you need somebody really strong on the other side of the ball. Where you don't really have to worry about what

they're doing or what they're calling over there so that the head coach can really focus on what he's doing. Okay, so on that kind of same conversation, how important is it that the general manager and head coach are obviously on the same page? For you, I always say you're the greatest head coach of all time because you are, everybody knows that, but you're also the greatest NFL general manager and head coach are obviously on the same page for you. I always say you're the greatest head coach of all time because you are. Everybody knows that, but you're also the greatest NFL general manager of all time because that was your title. Although you say a lot of people helped you.

Obviously they did, but there's some places like bulky is going to be there again down in Jacksonville with a new head coach coming in. There's some places that have preferred to do that almost. How do you feel about the GM head coach relationship and how did it become? You did both? Well, I think that first of all, Pat, I think the more important relationship is between ownership and the head coach and general manager. It's really impossible to do both jobs, head coach and general manager in the NFL.

General manager really means to me, personnel acquisition, draft, free agency, salary cap. You know, those kind of responsibilities fall to one person. And then the coaching falls to the other person. And so somebody has to have the final say on that, whether it's the general manager or the head coach, be either one. But you still need another person to do those jobs. So I was always very fortunate that I had Scott Pioli and then Nick Casario to do those

jobs and regardless of what my title was or wasn't, somebody had the final say and I had that, but they did all the majority of the work in the other area. And if they had had the final say, then I still would the majority of the work in the other area. And if they had had the final say, then I still would have done the same thing as the head coach. It's just that on certain decisions, they would have the final say instead of me. But I think the more important relationship is between ownership, to have a shared vision with ownership between the head coach and the general manager in terms of what the organization is really trying to do and how they're doing it.

And I think a great example, that would be the Philadelphia Eagles with Jeff Lurie and Howie and then to Nick, you see it there. You certainly see it in Kansas City with, as I mentioned, with Brett, Andy, Hunt family. So you see situations like that and when everybody's in the line and pulling together, you might not win the championship every year, which we didn't, but you're in it every year and you have a strong team and you continue to build.

Same thing in Pittsburgh, Coach Tomlin and you know, the Rooney family and like that vision's really, that team's looked the same for the better part of three decades now, going back all the way to cower and even back before to the Chuck Noll area in a lot of ways. So that consistency and that shared vision, I think, was really important. And when you switch coordinators and switch coaches all the time, it makes it tough. Like in Cleveland, last year they go 11 and 5 or whatever it was, 12 and 5. And then fire the offensive staff, get rid of Flacco, bring in new offensive coaches, bring Watson back.

And it looks like they've gotten worse and now they're making changes again. So it's just hard to build any continuity when you do it that way. So to me, if you have this shared vision all the way through the organization, which we had for 20 years at New England, then you have a chance to be competitive and be successful. Tony and Bill Polian and Jim Ursay had that to a degree in Indianapolis. You know, you saw better than I did, but you know that it was always hard to play against those organizations. So I think it really starts at the top and works its way down. And when you don't have that, then honestly, it can fall apart pretty quickly.

I think people would say the Green Bay Packers as well. I don't know if I heard you list them as well but those are the teams that are consistently at the top. Those are the teams that are consistently great and obviously you had the greatest dynasty in the history of sports up there in New England. They have moved on from coach Mayo after one year in a surprise announcement yesterday to I think a lot of football fans. How do you feel about only getting one year to build your culture? And how do you feel about that type of situation up there in New England,

how it's unfolding right now? And you can obviously go to press conference bill if you need to at this moment. Well, you know, Pat, I wasn't trying to exclude any organizations. I was just trying to not take 14 minutes. No, no, no, no. No, Green Bay is a good example that they have their way of doing things. And I think they've done a great job in bringing young players into their

organization for years and years and years. They've done a great job with their young players. They keep the, their best veterans, you know, when they caught signing to the second and third contracts, but they turn their roster over, they keep their best veterans, when they signed into the second and third contracts. But they turn their roster over and they always have a young team, they've always had a competitive team. And they've always been one step ahead in the quarterbacks from, far to Rogers, Rogers to love, that's so absolutely that's another organization that they have a different way of doing things, but they've been consistent and

they've been very successful over time You know the Patriots situation, I mean honestly, I don't have too much of a comment on that, you know, Robert Kraft Jonathan Kraft Robin Glaser, you know, they're the decision makers there who exactly does what and so forth Maya was handpicked by by Robert but in the end the decision-making is something that they'd have to comment on, identify, but you know, they're the ones that are really, you know, making the calls there. And so it's, you know, they're the ones that should comment on that.

I really don't know from the outside looking in, they haven't called me an ass. We thought maybe that would happen after the way this year has gone. There might be a chance to take a while. Maybe winning for a long time isn't as easy as one guy who's coaching in college now made it look for a while. Hopefully there's a chance for that conversation to happen. Now let's talk about people helping you. Connor has a question for you coach. Yeah coach, you brought up Piole and Casario in New England doing those other type of jobs. What is Michael Lombardi up to now? Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. They weren't the other jobs.

They handled the personnel side of it. Just like Michael Lombardi did in Cleveland, just like Mike did, and when you helped me in New England, came back and helped us, and then just like he's doing now, it's the same structure in Carolina that essentially we've had in the NFL and in the organizations I've been in, is that you have somebody with personnel,

somebody with coaching, and you work jointly and unifying in a unifying way with those people to produce good results. That's what I'd say. It's not another job. It's the other job that's necessary for success. Sorry. Now, don't be sorry at all.

We're excited anytime somebody talks about Michael Lombardi. We love that guy. How's he been wheeling and dealing down there in college? Well, no, Mike's great. He does a great job with, you know, organizing the salary cap, which now we're kind of working under. It's a little different, but it's similar.

And we're in the high school recruiting phase as well as still in the transfer portal phase so there's a lot going on there's a lot of balls in the air but you know Mike can handle that he's one of the smartest people I know and and he handles those things very fluidly and we're building as Steve said we're building sorry Connor I didn't mean to cut off then hey coach no look you won six Super Bowls and I was a fan of your teams you can do whatever the hell you want Just so we're clear Tarheels

Coach we appreciate the hell out of you taking time out of your recruiting day to chitchat a little ball with us You're the man. Good luck out there Thanks, pad appreciate it talk to you next monday big exciting week of play and then Talk to you next Monday, big exciting week of playoff. And then we'll get Detroit and Kansas City back in the action the following week. But I'm excited for the post-season. It'll be a lot of fun. All right, coach. See you, Steve.

See you, ladies and gentlemen. The greatest of all time. And his defensive coordinator, his son, Bill and Steve Belichick. Hey, Belichick. Listen, Robert Kraft handpicked Mayo, okay? I don't know who's making the decisions up there. You're gonna have to ask them. They're the ones that should comment on it, A.J., okay?

They're the ones that should comment on it. Yeah, and now they have, it has also already been reported too that those two, Robert and Jonathan Kraft, will be the ones doing all the interviewing and finding the outside. They didn't hire a firm? No. No outside firm.

No outside help, it's just the Jonathan and Robert. Who was the third? The young lady? The third team, right? Yeah, that's for the Jets, and they are bringing in literally anyone who's ever coached in the league, it feels like. Who'd you say, D, but I'm sorry? I'm taking you off there?

No, the third name that Bill mentioned, Robin? Robin Glazier. Yeah, she was part of the group last year with Mayo And there was one other I'm forgetting his name might have been Jonathan Kraft honestly but those three were kind of heading like the Kind of reform of the entire team, but Mayo was a part of that group as well. I did not know she was a part with Jonathan Roberts. She's the executive VP of football business. I believe yes. Okay. Okay Big money up there obviously with the Patriots D butch VP of football business, I believe. Yes. Okay. Okay. Big money up there, obviously, with the Patriots.

D. Butch, how do you feel about the 33rd team getting hired to do consulting for ownership? Because I think it's a good idea to get advice from people if you haven't been able to get it right, especially people that have been around. I think a lot of people sign up to be a part of that 33rd team because they miss ball but they have a lot of talent. They're able to do their thing and I think it's not a bad idea. I think it's a pretty good idea. And how do you feel it's going to go and are we ever going to get as somebody's about to join us on stage here in a matter of seconds? But do you think we're ever going to get asked D-Butch and what should they be looking for whenever they're doing these? I hope we do get asked but yeah it is a little

unconventional way about going about it. But on that 33rd team, obviously you've got a lot of football minds, a lot of smart people. Chuck is on that 33rd team, a lot of former head coaches, coordinators, GMs, people that have been around the game. But they're, like, to Tom's point, they are interviewing everybody.

Lewis Riddick, they're interviewing him. Jim Nagy, who's been running the senior bowl forever. And I mean, you just got to be kind of men, they gotta have a good plan. And I heard you and Jeremy McCoy talking about it yesterday on the pregame show. You gotta get somebody who can get the best out of their foundational guys as well. So those are the things that will all be important for that jet search. D-Bud, I know Pat said it before, he feels like if you hire one of these firms, and it doesn't go well, you can kind of blame them yeah I think that's that is there's

definitely something to that but then if you're the owner then it's all on you it's back to you because you're the one that made that you get you get the final call but in everything that we've heard from the ownership level at the Jets that would make me say okay yeah hire somebody else hire another group of people even if some of those people are some people you've hired and fired before in your past hire those people are some people you've hired and fired before in your past. Hire those people, maybe let them figure it out, and then you sign off on it,

and you still make that final decision. You gotta live with it as the owner of that team. I'd like to see the reports that these, the 33rd team or these other companies put together on each, like I'm sure they put a packet together of each individual coach they interviewed, their highlights, their lowlights, what they think they might be.

Does the owner not sit in on that though? I'm sure he does, but I guess then you can kind of put it all together and then you can kind of compare and think about it for a long time. Are you really even doing anything though if you're just saying like, hey there's 85 guys who want to be a head coach right now, let's bring them all in and interview all of them. I mean you get a lot of different vantage points, get a lot of different players and shit. You gather info. Yeah, this happens to business everywhere. I want to gather info to see what this guy if he's had success other places

What is he doing? What how does he run his schedule? Like what's this day to day look like? I think a lot of that is just gathering and salty. Yeah, I'm looking forward PMS consulting Go Hey, I am in on that notion of us consulting an NFL team to tell them who they should hire and having no accountability on Whether or not they're good. That's a hundred percent okay with our particular business. Whenever they had to hire a new leader of the direction of the WWE into its biggest time ever, there was one man for the job he's standing right next to me ladies and gentlemen, Mr. H, the Chief Content Officer of the WWE.

Massive night tonight brother. Tonight's yeah incredible, incredible night. You know, we were just talking in a production meeting and to see where this has all led to and to this moment, I feel like this is a shift of another era, the Netflix era, or whatever we're gonna call that of our business. But to see that evolution from cable television

to closed circuit, to pay-per-view to our own network to broadcast television to now on the biggest streaming service in the world and it's where young people are. I don't mean this is an insult to anything but I said it the other day, like nobody says I'm going to go CBS and chill. I'm going to Netflix and chill right I'm gonna Netflix and chill and that's where young people are so except for live sports live sports football more specifically has been carrying a lot of linear television I

think 75 of the top 82 I think linear rated things was the NFL this past year yes but also you guys live action live events happening every single week you guys are 52 weeks a year so when when Netflix makes this deal, they're excited They're pumped as well. But for you whenever you think about the Cole was out here earlier. He said 80% of the globe Was that the number he said 80% of the globe? Yeah, he's gonna be watching this and he said that a lot of people are gonna be brand new to wrestling Are you thinking about that whenever you're making the card whenever you're thinking about the night? Absolutely

It's it's you know, you want to put your best foot forward on all of this. But while we're WWE Are you thinking about that whenever you're making the card whenever you're thinking about the night? Absolutely. It's it's you know, you want to put your best foot forward on all of this. But while we're WWE different than a lot of things, we're global brand, right? There's no I've been all over this planet been fortunate enough to do it. There's no place I have been to on this planet that they don't know what WWE is and they don't know who we are. What's cool about it, Triple H chance, Triple H chance on every continent, brother. That's what he just said.

That's what he just said right there. There's Pat McAfee chance there too. Some of them, some of them, yeah. But in this moment, as you said tonight, when we go on the air, in the US domestically it's Raw, the rest of the globe, 80% of that globe will have Raw, SmackDown, NXT, and the PLEs. All WWE programming, 80% of that globe will have raw SmackDown NXT and the PLEs. All WWE programming, 80% of the globe and over the next few years, that will shift to where it will become 100% of the rest.

That's a massive- Huge. 280 something million or something more than that, even homes. Have Netflix multiply that by- People stealing passwords. Yeah, absolutely. People doing that. Unfortunately, but also, we're not promoting. Yeah, just the amount of people in the homes, let's say three people per home at 290 million or whatever. It's the numbers are

incredible. Mind blowing. Hey, good luck. Put together a great show. All right for all of us. Speaking of show. Now you crush it. You've been, hey, you've been a damn good leader. We're talking about teams having to hire coaches and general managers. I want to let you know your knowledge about football, very low, very low. But every time we hit a home run in the third inning of a football game, if you were leading the squad, I think you'd be able to do it because of your leadership. You are a phenomenal leader. You need to know that everybody will run through a wall, that wall for you if they needed to. Well, I

appreciate that. And I was just walking up here as they were leading out of that segment into this and I was thinking about when I met you and to where you are now dude, like the world is yours. Yours actually. Congratulations. Thank you. It's been a boy. So you've known us literally from jump from day one. And it's been incredible to see your rise and the moves you've made and they've all been top shelf and um man it's just you know i don't want to speak down in that way but i'm so proud of you and what you've done man you have no idea i'm getting emotional i'm getting emotional i'm getting emotional stop stop stop great man great mentor i appreciate you ty has a question about your show tonight that is going to be around the entire world.

Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Mr. H. I recently read an interview where you basically said like, hey, there are no time limits anymore. The show could be 40 minutes. It could be four hours. We're not beholden to anything. So how are you going to actually go about and decide the length of these shows? Because I assume it's probably pretty easy when you've been filling three hours for all these years to just say, hey, we're going to do a three hour show.

But how are you going to decide week in and week out how long the shows are going to be? I think it's by what the content needs to be. No different to me than, and look, there are some parameters obviously that we have to hit, right? But no different than any other episodic television show. Sometimes there's an episode that's 45 minutes the next week it's an hour right it depends on what you need to put into that show sometimes when we do three hour shows is a little bit of collapsible stuff in there that's put in on purpose it's it's a little bit of fat in the show that you can trim off if you need to but a two-hour show sometimes, there's a lot of times when we get done a two

hour show where I think that I would like to have put more in there. I would like to have given more people the opportunity to tell these stories that we didn't get a chance to do. So somewhere between that two and that three hour window to me is, is the sweet spot. Yeah. The conversation has always been SmackDown two hours, Raw three hours. Now it's reversed.

You know, there is no time ending for Raw SmackDown two hours, Raw three hours, now it's reversed. There is no time ending for Raw SmackDown now three hours back on USA, right? Yes, for right now, and then it switches back to two. Yeah, two hours is, it's always talked about how fast and how, boom, boom, boom, you can put in two hours. But there is some meat left on the bone, as we say, if we're gonna talk about the fat.

So now that you're able to go into it, we do it every single day. We linger sometimes, probably too long, don't you think boys? Sometimes we linger on YouTube, ESPN+, TikTok Live, which is- Sometimes you can let it linger and it's good. Not our shit.

It's a great song. Your shit's good linger. Your shit's good linger. Now on that note, D-Bud has a question for you. Yeah, Mr. H, I know you guys gonna put on a great, great show and obviously I'm a big fan, been a big fan since the Attitude era and Cole was on early. He was talking about the Cole Open, can't wait to hear that.

But projections, I know there'll be huge, be a lot of viewership. The Paul Tyson fight obviously has some streaming issues. NFL kind of went off without a hitch on that. How concerned are you with any stripping issues or have you guys done troubleshooting and all that with the big premiere tonight on Netflix? I'm not concerned at it at all the Netflix people are the most professional people on the planet One of the things that I thought was great was they did the Tyson Paul fight

They did the NFL stuff It was sort of all the litmus test for us to come in there and not have issues To be able to come in here be seamless, do what we do and not have any problems. Man, if we can do anywhere near the numbers they did, I will be, both of them, I will be ecstatic. But I think this is what Netflix does and I understand the live component is not what they have done, but they're the best of the best. They've got this stuff figured out. We have this stuff figured out.

This partnership has been incredible. I can't say enough good things about Netflix. They're very invested it feels like, right? I've never experienced anything like it. They are just, and they understand, I don't know if it's because of the nature of what they do, they're a little bit of everything. Like they just get what we are. Their marketing teams, their top execs, everybody that we have worked with, it's like hand in

glove. It's been so easy and so seamless. I'm so thankful for their teams for getting us where we are. But on that aspect of it, people, when I was walking in here, everybody was like, man, you see so calm today. And I'm just like, it's between the Netflix folks, our folks, the work we've put into it, we've done it all. I feel like that fighter that's right before going to walk out for his fight, but he knows he's had an unbelievable camp. He knows he's got all the T's crossed and I's dotted, man. I was just, let's just go do this.

Yeah, it's why you prepare. You know, the team that's confident going in and you should be confident because since you've taken the reins, this place has gone to completely different levels. I can't thank you enough for welcoming me back into this world. Welcoming the boys back, right? I think. Yeah. Thanks for putting us in the game.

Yeah, thank you very much for putting the boys in. This is as much your home as it is ours, man. I don't think so. Thanks for putting us in the game. Yeah. Thank you very much for putting the boys in. This is as much your home as it is ours, man. We love having you guys here and being a part of what we do. I, I, I love your style of what you bring to what we do listening to you do commentary. I don't feel like I'm listening to somebody, uh, dictate something to me or tell me some, I feel like I'm hanging with my buddy, sitting on a couch, having some snacks and partaking in some other things that make you just have, just stuff that makes you have fun.

And just having fun. If you watch the show, you wanna sit on a couch with Pat McAfee and Michael Cole and hang out and watch wrestling with them. And to me, that's when this is the best. That's the goal, man, whenever I do what I do into a microphone. I'm living the dumbest life of all time and reading those words from that I don't know when you did the article on the internet I was like so pumped that you kind of got it

with who I am because not a lot of people do and I think that's because this is like home for me. It's a neck and neck race of which one of us between me and you is living the dumbest life. Fair, very fair. Fair, very fair. Very, very fair. We are both very lucky people. I appreciate you, man.

Good luck tonight. You're going to crush it. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, the King of Kings, the chief content officer of WWE, the man who's taking the world to new heights, Mr. H. I don't know if you can hear him. Okay, Mr. H. Yeah, Mr. H. Yeah, Mr. H. Yeah, Mr. H. Yeah, Mr. H. I don't know if you can hear him. Okay, good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, hold on. Make sure you don't do that, Michael. I'm caught. Yeah, can't do the Michael Cole thing. Geez, not the Mr. H. No. Michael Cole, let his ass fall off the stage.

Mr. H, no way. Can't let that happen. Hey, he's... So jacked. Yeah, incredibly jacked. Strap it in. You could give him a contract this off season. Absolutely jacked. See his suit, see his suit. Big dog. Man, dog.. John strapping you give him a contract this off. He's absolutely Jack

See a suit see a suit big dog man. I'll put on a football man dog He was like a bodybuilder from a young age. I feel dog wasn't he big in the bodybuilding I believe as you're talking to his crew, mr. H. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I'm still alive. You're the man Hey, Poison's here Joe Ted. I mean, I'm sorry He was in he was in the He was in bodybuilding and wrestling. He was always, you know, that is the terrorizing was his name. Terrorizing and WCW.

And they told the story about how obsessed he was with wrestling. Like basically he's the perfect guy for the job that he has right now cause he loves wrestling. Now also loves bodybuilding loves boxing though right his boxing lovers and wrestling lovers I think go hand-in-hand because of the Showcase of everything and how it goes but like he is still ridiculously jacked triple-h right there his traps

I mean we're talking and then they couldn't get the ear things over his head has muscles Right here, so obviously he is the man, Joe Tessitore literally just walked over here. He looks so stunning, so sharp right now. Obviously this guy's made for a $5 billion debut like Netflix has been. He has been commentating Monday Night Raw. How are you, dude?

And calling games on Saturday night. I saw the boys all say hello. Hey, what's up guys? Big night for the boy. Big, big night for the boy. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Awesome. Netflix, 80% of the globe watching your real quick you can't hear him we got like a minute so the heart out here you understand it more than anybody incredible work this year Monday Night Raw and college football you watch

Texas Arizona State yes brother yes brother so let's talk about the college football playoff real quick yeah man Notre Dame yeah a lot better than I ever could have imagined Penn State a lot better than I ever could have imagined. Penn State, a lot better than I could have ever imagined. Ohio State, a lot better than I could have ever imagined. Texas, same exact thing. I think this is very, very, very, very well done by the CFP to get these four.

I'm very intrigued by what we're going to get at the end of this week. But that Texas, Ohio State winner, come now. Really? Oh, come on now. Bro, there's a lot of talent on the field right now. Ohio State winner come now. Really? Oh come on now. Bro there's a lot of talent on the field right now. Ohio State is stupid. Dude that Texas roster don't get fooled now.

Pound for pound you start going down those position groups. I mean I know they get shaky at moments in those second halves of games. Yeah but Quinn Ewer is calling that blitz and then checking on four. I mean that is just unbelievable. They're peaking. The four and thirteen and they're like I'm telling you, I love both those rosters. The winner of that game, mark it down. It's been a great college football season.

It has been, but this is hype tonight, man. Yes. This is like ridiculous hype tonight. Yeah, I'm very, very excited. Lucky to be here. All right. I'll see you in the TV locker room. You got it.

Let's do it. All right, later, boys. We'll see you. All right, Joe. See you right here this year. Right here. See the TV locker room, man. You said one TVL baby.

TVL, that's the room. Is that for the superstars or do you have like a specific broadcast locker room where you guys go wear your jocks and take shots? There's talent locker rooms, there's TVL where like camera people and producers and veteran wrestlers that don't want to be in a large locker room. And they're a little bit more privacy, it's a you know, they do some shoots and that's TVL Yeah, TVL boys obviously great group. It's great group. Great. I mean abyss is a part of the TVL boy Bobby rude Of art. I mean there is

There's a crew in there. Yeah, Bob that Bobby Glorious. Yeah, I mean it is it's a great crew and then obviously Michael Cole's in there So, you know, he's always but I know you know how he goes You know the entirety of the heart we will continue on YouTube ESPN plus in tip talk live We can't thank you enough for joining us Netflix on raw tonight Aaron Rodgers Tuesday tomorrow be a friend tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. I think we get it Nice. We get it. You got it Anyway, yeah, yeah.

That's a sweet like a what do we know lectern you have today? Your your Pat Mackey show like lecterns and one with the lights. Can you zoom out? Can you zoom out a little bit? She can use your money more now. Stage cameraman's awesome to do. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. This is crazy. I haven't seen it any news Watch out watch this thing doing so so so you enter right there Rambo. Oh big dog. What up, brother? Don't work at WWE for like 35 years From the future great guys

Unbelievable people over here. Yeah, the WWE is stupid bro. We talked about this don't we? I mean we literally talk about it the WW in whenever Michael Cole said it earlier The Triple H just kind of hands off and it kind of just lets the all-star team do their thing That's not just like in Cole said it's not just the talent It's like all these motherfuckers have been doing this for 30 years all on the road And then the younger generation comes in and they learn from the OGs that have been on the road It's like hey This is how it goes and because they're on the road so much you got to be a worker like you got to have a work ethic. So it's like a very humble like it is The people at the WWE are awesome and they took so much time out of their lives to do this so much time

I realize on a massive day. You heard it big night. This might be the biggest night in the history of wrestling Yeah, it's like they took their time. Oh, it's it's a first-class organization. It's great It really is isn't it time you're in a video game. It's a family. No legit I mean like look at like like you said like you've done a lot of these like that that podium that you're at is It's ridiculous. It's so stupid And they did it on purpose do you know? Mm-hmm. They did this on purpose like that is how they you know I mean, yeah, you're like what's it normally look like? Okay We're gonna go above and beyond cuz that's what WWE always does, H.

Literally always does. It makes- I cut tie off. I said, it's like a family. I've been lucky enough to what? Five, six, seven events over the years with you. It's an absolute family. Everybody watching them,

just watching everybody interact and how cool they were to us and to me. Yeah, it's really cool what they're doing. Not a surprise. You're in an angle you remember you got scared who did you get scared? I was working security for you you know. Yeah but that's what I'm saying. Yeah I got scared a little bit. Ugly mugs. They tried to pull me out you know while you were about to. Was it punishment Martinez? No. Tommy invincible Tommy invincible no undisputed era and

by the way punishment Martinez dog yeah I mean me and priest world champion Adler respect maybe speaking of respect AJ we got nothing but respect for you brother Zito airmail ladies and gentlemen how old do you turn today behind happy birthday to you candles almost lit crash truck deliver that happy birthday to you 20 seconds out

how far away is very far birthday to you. What type of shirt is that? What is that shirt, Mitt? Fire. Nice, got a couple of them lit. Straight Falcon Flames. Happy birthday, AJ.

You want to take it back? Yeah, wish for infinity wishes. But you told us. Yeah, you're like, dang, not gonna run. Wish for infinity wishes. There you go Yeah, you're like Zero has to win another year. Oh, yeah, we'll do infinity wishes. Have you done that your whole life? Yeah, when'd you start doing that? Yeah about one Right before I smash my head and you know Your first birthday is they give you a cake and you smash your head and grab it you start throwing it like a monkey throwing Oh, yeah. Yeah

How is this birthday? What was this last trip around the sun like for you? Awesome. Everything, I tell you what I've told you before, I want to just pause time with my kids, with everything going on in my life. I would like to just pause it and just live here. So I guess that's a great thing, right? Good old days.

How about us being on a sideline for this shit that Ohio State might go on a run right now Like they might win the national very like odds on favorite. I believe to win the national championship Yeah minus 110 obviously at the semifinals and it's like you being on a sideline for it is so awesome to watch from our perspective I won't let you know that age like it is awesome. I don't want to speak for the boys, but boys don't you agree? Yeah, everywhere we go it's really cool you forget awesome. I don't want to speak for the boys, but boys, don't you agree? Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. Like getting serenaded everywhere we go. It's really cool. You forget when you're just talking shit to him every day, like who he is sometimes.

So like when you go to the Ohio State stuff and like people are chanting his name and you see his jersey everywhere, it's like, oh yeah, holy shit, this guy was actually like, fucking unbelievable. Football is not just an asshole. He's got a fucking tree. Not just an asshole.

Walking by, and they check between like Ohio State sideline, the crowd. So like obviously all the boys, the coaches, shit turned back. Obviously AJ was very, very uncomfortable. Him getting cheered on from the crowd, like that was awesome. Yeah, but I hope you take it all in, man. Happy birthday, you know? It's a cool moment.

It's a really cool moment. Oh, I do. Believe me, yeah, you can be uncomfortable and still appreciated At the exact same time I think so. Yeah, I mean how's the actual we got two more guys. He's doing all right He's passed it down now my uh My nine-year-old was yeah, I woke up in the middle of the night. He's puking So we'll see if he stops. I think it is the virus been popping around So, uh, yeah noro is that what they're calling it? Yeah

Yeah, we're not sure if exactly what's going on going on stomach bug for for my nine-year-old now Have you you have not gotten it? Obviously, you know, does it go to adults or is this a good thing? Yeah, I don't know. There's like a yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I'm Everyone has their theory on like how many days and if wait exactly it might be I don't know Okay, so this is one of the I legitimately I've only heard about it because I thought there was a chance that Mackenzie had it then It turns out she did not have it So we just kept it moving but I assume with these types of things like everybody's gonna end up with it at some point It's it's a dumper. They're a puker. What is it? It's a puker at least for for my kids, man

It's a dumper or a puker. What is it? It's a puker at least for for my kids, man Don't throw okay. Their dumps have been normal just normal. Hey, that's anxiety. Okay, that's anxiety riddled That's what I said to you during a Rose Bowl Like it's when I get a text that Mackenzie has a fever and I'm like on the show. I'm like, yeah I'm like that. I'm like what the hell is she gonna be your first kid? Obviously, so it's like first time going through all this stuff Anxieties through the roof. That's why for you at the Rose Bowl It's like I felt so bad laughing in your face as you said he sprayed a whole section That's what you had so you described Axel. What a dog did what an absolute dog Axel is Yeah, yes, I blame you. I had to get it out. I was gonna I think I told you I got the text shortly before halftime

I didn't say anything. That's the first time I told anybody that yeah This is what we're dealing with behind the scenes, but it felt good to get it out. I'm glad I told you I got the text shortly before halftime. I didn't say anything That's the first time I told anybody that yeah, this is what we're dealing with behind the scenes, but it felt good to get it out I'm glad I told you okay. Yeah, I'm happy you did too. It didn't affect your performance I want to let you know we would have never known that your kid was battling and uh, I mean getting out of the rose bowl is impossible. I don't even know how you would get to A medicare or whatever the hell would be legitimately. I have no idea how you would get out of there, especially while the game's happening with all the things they have closed and everything like that.

D. Butch, what have we not hit that we should have hit today? Let's see, Aaron Glenn's an absolute dog, right? I mean, that is something. And I heard Cole say, Aaron Glenn come back to the Jets. Did you hear that as well? What is something else we didn't hit today

that we shouldn't have brought up? Been hearing that, Aaron Glenn to the Jets, Aaron Glenn to New Orleans But my favorite part of week 18 of Sunday was Mike Evans Mike Evans We always talk about it obviously we know been in locker room and now as fans We love the guys get their money, but I think you more importantly historically him getting 11 Consecutive season now over a thousand yards. We've all said on this show Hall of Fame I think he'll be a first ballot Hall of Fame

when it's said and done. But not only him getting it, but the whole team kind of being in on it. You know, them passing the ball while being up, obviously a situation where you want to take a knee. So I think this was a great, great moment, obviously for that organization. And not only just the fans of the Bucs,

I think for the fans of football, this was awesome to see what Mike Evans down there in Tampa Bay. Hey, his team understanding the moment and obviously eleven straight thousand yard seasons ties Jerry Rice Yeah for NFL history and everything like that three million dollar bonus hitting home. Hello Yeah, I love a nice little catching for a guy doing it right in the fact that that's how the Buccaneers decided to handle that situation Right there. Yeah, you know, that's one score game. That could be a pick six. Instead they say, nah, we're going to stick up for our guy. We're going to let our guy get his numbers that he needs to get to make history

in the NFL and ownership's probably like, yeah, I guess. Yeah. You know, let's do a three million dollar bonus. Whatever the case, that's good karma. You know, that is doing the right thing for your player who's specially all the right things for your city for your team for your community He's gonna be one of the greatest of all time whenever it's all said and done already in that conversation Congrats to him and congrats to the team handling it the right way. How about Gino Smith? Did I see right he got six million dollars in incentives yesterday was that accurate? That's what that tweet said. Yeah Yeah, because I think Sunday Night Football said something about two million for each of these things.

Yeah, five years ago, Geno Smith was released, assigned two years later, he was a Pro Bowler, and won Comeback Player of the Year, says Front Office Sports Today, Smith hit all three two million dollar season bonuses he had played. Wins, passing yards, and completion percentage. Yeah. So, they put that up on the screen last night, I think, during Football Night in America. I thought it was a two million dollar bonus he had. He hit three of them times and he congrats

Congrats to Gino Smith get six million. He hobbled off that field to he gave it his all You know, he gave it his all for that Seahawks team Who knows what the future looks like in Seattle at the quarterback position? But I know six million dollars hits three million dollars two hundred fifty thousand all these bonuses that he yesterday are a welcomed Addition to the bank account for all these guys. Yep. Obviously. Pat, did you believe, I guess, Jerry Jones said after the game he wasn't even aware that Cooper Rush, he played 55% of snaps, he got an extra 250k. What do you think?

Do you think Jerry's telling the truth? I didn't know. You think I knew about 250 fucking thousand? I didn't. I mean, who negotiated? Me? All right. So that's the thing.

You think I'm on top of all these things all the time? No. Now maybe was I informed that it was a couple cheeseburgers, if you know what I'm saying, with extra cheese? If he was playing the entire game, I think it was like 70% or something like that if he had to do it. Maybe I knew about that, but fucking 250,000 shit. I'd give him 250,000 per not playing. How about that? And why do they always do the interviews the way they do with Jerry? Why are these microphones this it's so it's old. It's the only one in the world. He likes it Yeah, it's got to be him get in here. Yeah get close Or something because they're so close to him everything their faces their phones all of it That's what i'm saying. We're talking about these

Uh dumping puking parties people are having it's like people just putting their phones up in an 83 year old How old is your area an 83 year old how old Jerry 80? 82 year old and these microphones 95 so what you said he looks it. I don't know if he actually is 82 82. Yep nailed it He does it does look a bit over the end of a season like this lighting They're all up on it. Just in his business of a season like this. Good lady. They're all up in his business.

They're on top of him. And look over his shoulder even. Ah, let me turn that son of a bitch sideways, that guy says. Let me get ahead and get it over there. It's unbelievable. Do you believe in Meiji? How about you, D-Butt? What do you think?

You think this was a move by D-Butt to save a little ched? I think he knew for sure. But at the same time, you do want to see Trey Leonard. This is a guy that you love coming out of college You haven't seen him play much football and just like and this is on the flip side of them doing all those big things for Mike Evans You know Cooper Rush hasn't kind of he's not that same guy. He's not of that ilk when you talk about the franchise So more importantly, they gotta see what they got with Trey Lance going forward So I like that a lot of young quarterbacks got out of Trey Lance. Joe Milton yesterday got a chance to spin it.

Dog, wow! We saw Bailey Zappi. We saw, and then we saw Bryce Young too, who kind of put a stamp on the end of this season that hey, you know what, I am the guy going forward. So I love to see how he responded from being benched after being the number one pick. And now it seems like that organization is back behind him.

So I'm excited for the future of him down there with a Carolina Panthers organization But I do I think Jerry, you know, he knew but he had bigger fish to fry I'm thinking there's a chance. He did not know You know, I think Stephen Jones probably knew I think other people probably knew there's a chance Jerry wasn't told until Hey, why am I trending right now? Because this entire thing, to your point about Bryce Young, absolute dog. I'm excited to watch him. And I think we all kind of counted him out, you know? And it was hard not to, to be honest,

with his size and everything that was happening with that Carolina Panthers team. And then Canales, I'll tell you what, he did it to Baker last year. Baker continued to have a good year. We were wondering, is it David Canales or maybe it was Baker Mayfield? It's like, he's got the boys believing down there.

They're young, they're young, they're celebrating. I've come to really enjoy watching Bryce Young play football. And the no look, obviously throw, halfway turn around Steph Curry stuff, whenever he was being described as the Steph Curry of football is, you know, a nice little tip of the cap to the entertainment of the game. And whenever you're trying to entertain people

while you're balling, it's like, you're a pretty confident bunch. And heading into the off season, this Carolina team's got to be very pumped. Well, let's talk about a confident guy. Are we talking about Joe Milton the third enough? Oh, well, I don't know. Standing back flip after running the ball, 35 yards on a dime on a run. I mean, what are we thinking? It gets to the win, obviously loses the number one overall pick, sticks the landing in full pads.

We saw some stuff in preseason that was like, wow, this guy's got a huge arm, but is he going to be an enemy? He was reading, dissecting, running. Now it's preseason game. I understand Buffalo's wrecking some players, but I mean, what are we doing? Con man, what are the thoughts about the third up? I mean what are we doing? Con man what is the thoughts about the third up? I mean look he's unbelievable and if you have one quarterback or you have two quarterbacks sometimes you have no quarterback but

when you have two Hall of Fame quarterbacks it kind of changes the entire thing you know we basically have Joe Montana and Steve Young at the start of both their careers now I don't don't want to lose Joe Milton whatsoever. Tennessee Volunteers fans, they let me know some things. But look, Joe Milton. Me too. Me too. What they let you know.

They just let me know something. So you can look it up if you want to, but they say this is part of the Joe Milton experience. If I don't want to go out there and say. Oh, come on. Look, I don't believe that at all. That's why I'm not going to, no, no, they're just saying that, you know, this is the Joe Millen experience and I'm loving it.

But for, for at the moment in time, you know, I will say, you know, Joe Millen, yeah, there's some teams like the Raiders that were just mentioned in the jets. If you want to trade a Max Crosby to New England, you don't have to draft a quarterback. You can get Joe freaking No. And look, you guys just said, Rocket Arm, the guy can move. I mean, shit, I don't want to lose him. But at the end of the day, Drake May,

we've all seen it consistently. Joe Milton, one week against the Bills, in the last game of the season where the Bills are basically saying, Hey, we need New England to win so they don't get the ones one pick. I don't know. That's just what I saw on the internet. But Drake mays the guy, Joe Milton can hang around though. I mean, there's, there's nothing wrong with, you know, Drake, maybe if he were to get hurt

having Joe Milton sitting behind him now we need to change his number 19. I think looks pretty stupid, but, but if, we put him in like unique a very unique Maybe we change his number move that around a little bit, but not number three Pop Douglas basically Probably one or two of our best receivers, which isn't saying much but still he's very good slot receiver for us actually Man, I wonder if you could put four down there, that'd be tough. Because having three on your thing is sweet. Like being a third of anything is pretty cool.

You know? Like if you meet a fourth or a fifth, it's like, holy shit. You know? Third is obviously very impressive. Third is very impressive. That's a lot. You ever, you have a, you don't have an AJ, Aaron James Jr. You don't have a Deuce.

No, we do not. Yeah. I might, I could put- Would you call him Deuce? I could put senior on my, I should have put senior on mine, right? Cause I'm the first. I'm the only one.

True. I mean, adding senior to your name through your adult life is sick. I know. That is a sick thing to do. Yeah. It is kind of. Would you go, D-Butts, would you go junior, Deuce?

Nah. What would you call- Noch would you go junior deuce what would you call no junior my dad's my dad's the third uh and then my my older brother is a fourth but uh yeah probably holy shit got a blaze drone trail yeah fourth yeah so that's four generations actually happy birthday mitchell butler the second man jr i'm saying man 90 a couple days ago all right deuce The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second.

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That's the internet wasn't the most disgusting thing yesterday it was not was it and it wasn't even close What are you talking? I was lying. It internet was alive yesterday there's a lot of things no so Nikki Glase my jokes yeah Golden Globes Golden Globes and congrats to everybody that one knows hey those ones are big right yeah yeah did shallow may win I do I don't he was there He was there the Bob Dylan that coupe when they coupe when I don't know I don't know if you had anything he was nominated for Glenn Powell Glenn Glenn Powell win. Yeah nice joke about But no Denzel did not win. He was very thankful. He did not win

Really? So hold on. Hold on is Denzel that why we have why? Really? So hold on. Hold on is Denzel that why we have why? Just not with the bullshit with that stuff if it's an Oscar sure he'll entertain that get up there But he's a I'm not doing the fucking happy dance get up here and do some bullshit speech. They just thank you. I appreciate it Get the camera. He said he's passed that yeah, he said he's not doing it call Messy said I don't do those awards. I don't do that award. Messy said that the other day I think. None of our guys won anything. No. Looks like Adrian Brody won best actor. But one of our guys, The Rock, put Vin Diesel through a table. It was off camera but... Oh yeah, Vin Diesel did kind of throw it.

I heard that. What's up Dwayne? He threw a shot, yeah. Hey Dwayne. Oh. Hey Dwayne. That makes me feel Interaction. Yeah, they're on a rebound. That's how I read that. They're on a rebound. I didn't cuz everyone laughed. I don't think everyone's So so did the yeah for a second he left hi chief. I thought they were back together for the they are last film Yeah, it's a good thing. You're good business. They're back together I think that one last ride.

To work. Fast and finally. Is DeWayne bringing, is he bringing him to, you know, tonight? To Netflix premiere? Is Vin Diesel gonna pop out? How about The Rock putting that, how about The Rock putting that video out

and then the way it was done, of course. That's just the way The Rock is. That's the way. I can't wait to see what this place does whenever he comes out. There's like a, you know, him just walking around cuz he's just gonna lie And everybody knows who the hell he is So I've got a chance now to see him out and about you know for brief moments when he's able to do it

It's like he's a human that's built in a fashion that you go. Oh, what the fuck is that? And then when you see it you go, oh, it's the rock Holy shit, and it's like that's how everybody acts and then when he walks into a building As soon as the it's just immediate Pavlov's dogs everybody just goes crazy. I'm pumped. He's gonna be here. There's gonna be beer here. Is that what I heard? Is that what they said tie is that what they were saying? I think there was some beer deal that that happened Oh, yeah, that's on the internet. Well, that's why everyone was so hyped up because the Hulksters beer, you know

I believe he did sign some sort of deal with the WWE and Every hulkamaniac is just got their fingers crossed that maybe the Hulkster will show up tonight Maybe he'll you know get some some sort of cannon and shoot a couple real American beers into the crowd. Okay Oh, maybe maybe a boom. You know, those would be pretty. There's a real American beer right there. It's a light beer that's brewed in the United States of America. If you're wondering. Okay. That's real American beer by a great American Hulk Hogan. You know, I would not recommend throwing these cans around. I've been in a couple throwing cans around situations that never ended good.

Virginia Tech, Foxy, every time I tell this story nobody believes that you were there with me. I thought someone was gonna die that day, Pat. It was unbelievable. Full cans of beer being chucked from what? 50 yards away maybe? Those were bombs going down. Yes.

Crow hopping, people were crow hopping in a field where they were tailgating. Everybody's tailgating. Places packed with tailgaters. Packed. Virginia Tech is a wild place. They tailgating. Everybody's tailgating. The place is packed with tailgaters. Packed. Virginia Tech is a wild place. They need to get good because it was awesome. They need to get really good at football.

That place would be insane if they got very, very good again. But it was an entire field. Everybody was tailgating. And one of their things was they would huck full beers. There would just be a beer that would land next to you. You're standing there trying to see how this whole thing goes. Boom, full beer hits. And then it kind of hits you. And then it's like, what just happened? They're like, oh, you got to chug it. I'm like, excuse me. And it's like, yeah, the whole port of Cologne's kind of in on it. It's like, okay.

So then we did a show with Barstool Tailgate at the front of this park, this field. And obviously beers are getting fucking, because they want us to chug it was one of the most Exciting and electrifying things I've ever been a part of you literally had no idea What was gonna happen, but it was like three four beers that were hawked out there like we're talking It's a it's a tradition almost it was wild and then the other one was when I wanted to take a fishing net Into a Pittsburgh Pirate Game and try to catch a home run ball And we didn't know if the fishing that was going to be strong enough So we hopped a can of beer in the parking lot.

Turns out that thing went right through the fishing net, right onto the hood of the car that was right behind me in the parking lot. So don't throw cans if you're the Hulkster, but certainly hand them out. Real American beer here in the Intuitum for the global launch of WWE, an American product. I'm pumped about it. So many, that's a whole nother thing with WWE. I talk about American product, but most of the performers from all over the world.

So whenever I get a chance to get back in here and talk to these people, it's awesome, just catching up and they're always so interested in football. A lot of football fans in WWE. A lot of football. Sheamus there? Yeah. Yeah. Shame.

Oh, I don't know. I haven't. If Sheamus is here, I need to find the fella. Find the lad. Might be training with those days. He picked't if Samus is here. I need to find the fella. Yeah, I find the lad might be training He's doing his He picked Notre Dame win national championship whenever we were in When we were in Ireland, look at that. I picked Georgia. Obviously that game was played Notre Dame, Georgia How about that? Do we ever talk about that? No, no

Notre Dame so fucking good I have underestimated them the entire time a lot of their fans fans have told me, keep picking against us, keep picking against us. And it's like this is kind of what's happening with Michigan last year when I picked against them because I thought the football gods would do their thing. I just didn't know that this Notre Dame team was this good. And I almost refused to believe how big of a dog Riley Leonard was.

I mean, it's just like, and Marcus Freeman, what an amazing coach, like legitimately. The way he has rallied that bunch all buy-in and this dude is Unbelievable. I mean everybody's talking about Kenny and me included like hey, he's gonna have to make it throw He's gonna have to make it throw. It's like I don't know He's gonna have to make are like this. I think he can I think he can make a 15 yard throw if he has to it's like They are so good. I've underestimated them Completely and I think they know that I think their fans know that.

And Faison, the lacrosse dude, he's unstoppable when he gets the ball in his hands. I mean, it is real deal, this Notre Dame team major. Who's the favorite for their game against Penn State? Notre Dame is. By what, a couple? Two and a half or something? Yeah, I mean, Notre Dame, they're a physical bunch.

And old Buddy only threw for, right, threw for what, 86 yards. But when he pulled the ball down at the end, he flipped over the first down marker. Like, this guy's laying it all on the line for his squad, that's for sure. Special teams were huge in that game, too. When you look at both programs, you would expect, like, depth-wise, Georgia would blow him out the water when you get to that third phase.

But to your point, you talked about Marcus Freeman. And I would rarely say this, like he out coached Kirby Smart on that night. And you rarely would see that with a multiple national champ of Kirby Smart. So shout out to Marcus Freeman. Obviously got paid. He's building the culture down there, building a big winner

down there in Notre Dame. Because at this point in the season, this is usually when they get their doors blown off. When they face one of these big SEC teams or Big Ten teams so uh shout out Notre Dame man still been favored and also shout to Notre Dame doing this in their weather everybody else's weather you know they are they're a cold weather bunch as they have showcased and what they're able to do to Indiana Penn State also got a squad I've underestimated them through that Warren guy. Why, I mean, what the, what is that?

That's a, that's an absolute weapon, that guy. And one last thing about Marcus Freeman I wanted to hit. Did you see the interaction between he and Riley Leonard? It was awesome. On the substitution thing? Yeah, Riley Leonard, in like the kindest, most professional way, basically said, this guy is lying to you, he's a super genius.

He made a tweak to the play the substitution We're gonna get him the false start Play that we tried once D but you remember that mm-hmm. It was that against the Patriots. Oh Yeah, I wonder if Marcus Freeman saw Fucking hard on the defense like when you coming off and you you probably trying to get together with your position coach to go over Adjustments Bob blinding, you know how shit goes whoever is in charge of the sub. Hey, hey first base first nickel Whatever group you're sending out There's a full, you know hockey line swap pretty much and you're getting out there and you kind of anxious

Do you go hard snap like that was brilliant from the coaching? But obviously the players got to get out there and execute that shit was tough So I shout out to Freeman and the boys figuring it out That's a game winner for them. And I don't think their kicker was great all season and then he's been Notre Dame's. Yeah I mean, yeah, he had a 49 yarder in the freezing cold This is the play we're talking about had punt team on Sub-punt team off bring the entire offense on ref has to hold him for enough time for everybody to beat for Georgia to be able To substitute to match whatever Notre Dame just did they felt has to hold them for enough time for everybody to be for georgia to be able to substitute

To match whatever nother dame just did they felt like it was a long enough time georgia got set up enough to get comfortable And to get eager and excited and then they go, you know what? Yeah, that's hard. Ah, it's over first time 2310 at that moment now, I will say indiana only lost to nother dame by 10 2717 interesting 13 point difference here We'll say Indiana only lost to Notre Dame by 10. 27-17. Interesting. 13 point difference there. I'm not even gonna get into that conversation. And then how about Joe Tess story there? He was campaigning for Texas, it sounded like.

Didn't it? It sounded like he- He loves that roster. He does. I like how passionate he is about this game coming up. But yeah, I mean, Texas is loaded. We know that. There's a reason all four teams are legit.

They're stacked. D-Butch, outsides on on the now the Penn State Notre Dame team game. I don't think as much as a convo at this year, but like outsides for Texas and Ohio State, so much talent. Is anybody going to be able to stop Jeremiah Smith on Texas? You think man, I don't, maybe we just been too close to the action, but watching that shit up close and I had questions

coming up, you know, about Will Howard coming into the season and some different things that happened throughout the season but we always talk about peeking at the right times or certain teams going through adversity seeing Ryan Day his message kind of pregame in the locker room to the boys and then how they came out and started how Chip Kelly has been dialing it up you know finding creative ways to get Jeremiah Smith some matchups get him to ball early no short answer is no I, finding creative ways to get Jeremiah Smith some matchups, get him to the ball early. No, short answer is no, I do not think

they can stop Jeremiah Smith. You can maybe contain him and make the other guys beat him, but the other guys are Ibuka, Carnot-Tate, Henderson, Jukens in the backfield, and that offensive line is showing up as well. Then on the other side, shit, their defense. So this roster, I think, rightfully so, I think this team should be favored to go win it all and maybe that's just us being too close their

last two games actually seeing this operation going but I don't think anybody can stop that Ohio State offense right now. I think you know you say we're too close the action I think we fully understand the amount of motivation that they were given after losing to Michigan with how the entire state act yeah you know like I think Herbie has talked about it a lot you know obviously. So does, but it was, it was very real over there. And we're lucky that we have AJ, obviously the living Ohio state icon with us and we're close to the state and we have Ohio state friends. It's like, it was hot in the kitchen over there, not just for Ryan Day, obviously for the head coach always going to happen. But for the entire team, I think there was

a lot of questions because Trestle, Urban Meyer, everything they said coming in. Ohio is a hard-working state. Like you're getting millions of dollars and like it's not like there was a lot and then with the way they've gone about handling their business and adversity this year, I mean you got to love this team. Like literally you have to love this Buckeye team and I certainly do and I picked against them twice already. AJ. You're picking against them then, right? Well, that's what the Notre Dame people are saying too. But what about the Penn State people?

I haven't exactly put them over. And in Texas, we know I did the whole. Yeah. In the entire, I mean, it's a, I don't know. I apologize to whatever family, I'm gonna have to pick two. I'm gonna have to pick two of them. I'm gonna have to pick two of them. Whew.

You watched that Ohio State defense. We talked about it. We've seen it now two games in a row, Tennessee and Oregon. They're gonna make you go the hard way. Like Diba, you know that if they wanna get in picking up a third and six is like they gotta do it. Teams have to do everything they can to get seven yards and get a first down. Okay, here we go.

Let's reload again and try to find a way. Like you said Diba, what do you say they were stapling them? There's no weakness. Yeah, that's what they look like. Boom, boom, boom, just they call themselves the silver weakness. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they look like. Boom, boom, boom. They call themselves the silver bullets. That's what Ohio State's defense has said forever. But inside.

Tapping the Rockies? Inside leverage, outside leverage. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah, it's crazy. Silver bullets like bullets on a tin can, man. Ping, ping, BBs on a tin can, man. Ping, ping, ping, ping. That's what silver bullets are doing.

And it's been fun to watch. Yeah. It's been very fun to watch. And then obviously, Texas has all the town in The world and Quinn Ewer is making that check that throw their real deal It's a college football is gonna be fantastic as is football as is tonight Raw on Netflix boys. I can't wait to get back for you tomorrow Can I wait to get back tomorrow and I think I think we're holding up some stuff in the arena, but hey it is

There's a good time starting to fill up over here age. Thanks for traveling on your birthday. Oh, yeah four years ago To come to Indianapolis, she said you're going to DC So thank you for making the choice to come to Andy brother. We appreciate it Hey great to be here with the boys ready to be with the but actually I've never been in this seat with D But here here Friday, so it was awesome. Was it your birthday too? Yeah, it was. Oh, no.

Special day. I'm actually, guys, I'm never there when you're there. I know. That's weird. It's kind of a bummer. Thursday, you guys, but we got to figure that out sometime. Yeah. Thursday, we'll all be together,

because we're doing our show live from the Orange Bowl. That's going to be crazy. Yeah. Is it blazing right down there? You got our show? No, it's. That's gonna be crazy. Yeah Oh, yeah, blazing our show. I think no I think And then snowing perfect. I'm listening to Darius with perfect snow and snow shuts Texas down. Yeah Yeah, we got Jack. Yeah, they're so big storm coming Dallas, right? Yeah, I'm sorry What'd you say? No, I'm saying down in Florida when I left it was like 60s maybe before free jackets Yeah, it's And then you fly

68 on Thursday fucking beautiful Hey, the snow the snow up there in Indy was real. I heard it snowing today, too Yeah, we probably got like big time 10 12 inches. Yeah last night for sure. I saw a bunch of truck I was driving in trucks in the median How was your drive took a little it took a little while but not because of me, you know Usually like one lane of the highway was kind of plowed and then sometimes you get a car in front of you going 35 miles an hour, which you know, I don't you don't have to go that slow But you gotta find a way but it's hard because the snow that yeah between the lanes will get you Oh, yeah, I had a couple of a couple of reset moments, you know your wheels, you know

I can see myself in that median here that I just saw a full 18 wheeler stuck. Yeah, that happens bingo Yeah, just cuz you're trying to get a little antsy, you know, wow that left lane right there I could see tire marks I could see tire marks, but you know that there's a in between the lanes There's a lot of kickback from both sides there and boy driving through, Ohio I got I did 360 I 360 on 70 and Friday look like the biggest asshole of all time Nobody was in that left lane. Nobody is the fucking line of people on 70 going the same speed We're all in this misery and I was just like no fucking I gotta go I go there 360 and I end up on side of road

on other side of lane just sitting there and literally everybody that drove by was like alright I'm like yeah okay let me work my way back in here I was shook it though the rest of the drive oh yeah I was like oh my god oh my god I'm gonna die that's what I think but you can't be rest of the drive. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh my God, oh my God, I'm going to die. That's what I think. But you can't be scared of the snow. No, no, no. Just like you can't be scared of the ice.

You got to drop that thing in a neutral when you're trying to stop Edge. You got to drop that thing in a neutral. Don't panic. Just don't panic. If you start sliding a little bit, you just don't panic. Just stay calm and just steer yourself out of it. You'll be fine.

And get off the gas, obviously. Don't jam the brake either. You jam the brake and you start throw yourself into a spin. Ride to the airport this morning was there was a lot of back roads you know to get to that particular airport. Oh I bet. Field thick. Field snow road you see like a little gully and then snow just right.

I'm the first tires through brother. I'm the first tires through. I'm kind first tires through I'm kind of like Christopher Columbus I felt like Christopher Columbus I had no idea if I was going the right way on a couple was just kept on forging the river brother and made it there lucky to be here thankful to be here thankful to you AJ happy birthday D-Butch I'll see you tomorrow boys I'll see you all tomorrow hopefully you guys get a chance to check out Netflix tonight 8 o'clock Eastern 5 Pacific and wherever you are in the world This shit's gonna be bananas tonight, and they're already starting to you know work

They're magic and I think it's time for me to get the hell out of everybody's way and get prepared For the biggest night potentially in professional wrestling AJ. What an honor it is to be here. I am so thankful So so thankful. I Great work today Be a friend tell a friend something nice my cheat dumpy dumpy knee jump your bell Kill it tonight. Good luck tonight stage stage a little high Hey Tyree kill doesn't want to be a Doesn't be a dolphin anymore, he's out.

How do you feel? Yeah, we want volunteers, not hostages. We didn't win with him, so if you don't wanna stay around, get out. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Boom. It is what it is, man.

We've been dog shit, we haven't won a playoff game in 25 years. 25 years? He's been there for three years, we haven't won shit. I mean, if he doesn't wanna be there, he doesn't wanna be there. No, yeah. I'm a player in the league.

You'll be there though, won't you? Always. Till the day I die, unfortunately. Let's do some overreactions because Gumpi, I just remembered your overreaction as being one of the best. We put out a tweet this morning. I said, hey, listen, I want to hear your thoughts on how your state of your team is doing right now. Send a tweet, use it as a therapy session. We won't judge you. Actually, the best ones will make the program. Ty Schmidt scanned through all't judge you actually the best ones will make the program Ty Schmidt scan through all these and pick the best ones Ty how is the selection this week pretty good very heavy Steelers and Colts very very

heavy oh okay all right a lot of storylines obviously in those two cities we want to hear from you so we said all you got to use is I don't overreact but the man that is in this video is gonna get fired from his jobs and that is what I just noticed there with Ken Dorsey. I'm sure he's handling it better than he had in the past. He was a little fiery, you know, he's a little fiery, which is what you want to coach and I'll be excited to see where he goes next. But we don't overreact.

But let's hear what the people had to say became number one trend I believe in the United States of America passing bulky and many other situations brewing around the world hashtag I don't ever react but it's never been more Jover for the Finns 25 years without a playoff win mine and now Tyree kill once at a time Stephen Ross not even thinking about moving on from Chris Greer is certainly something. Unfortunately, this part being sports fan and I'll convince myself that next year is the year we break the streak. Hashtag go fans.

That is sports fan life, isn't it? Yeah, it was nice that they had that thing on deck. So there was never a thought to move on from Chris Greer at all. He's done a great job. No division titles, no playoff wins, but let's run it back one more time, huh, Chris? How many playoff wins has he had? Zero.

How many years has he been there? 10. As the GM. Kind of like that. You know, in Indianapolis. Yeah, all right, let's go to another overreaction, shall we? It'll get better, it'll get better. You're 11, you're nine.

This one's from a P tone hashtag I don't want to overreact And we've mentioned this before but here we are again This perpetual limbo stuck in football fucking purgatory like we're Phil Connors in that groundhog Is the Steelers driving us off a cliff year after year for eight years and the pain never stops after a year for eight years and the pain never stops. 11-0 starts, best defenses, two QB fucker rounds, killer Bs all for 500 records in first round exits. I'd rather go to Baltimore and do meth with bubbles than go to the game and watch that bloodbath. Or the Ravens took again in Super Bowl here we come hashtag here we go Okay, tone tone. Geez Louise little harsh there. Don't you think pal?

I know the playoffs yes, and a lot of Organizations would die to be in the spot that the Steelers are in year after year, you know Contending for divisions contending in the playoffs, but not this organization not this city We are about championships and and that's the only thing we care about and there hasn't been one or even the hope of one in a long long time so I think I share the sentiment with most Steelers fans that it's another disappointing season because you know you're in the playoffs I know I know and we're playing the Ravens not dead and we're playing the Ravens who we play very very very well against um you're in a great spot to nine and a half

You have no expectations like you're you're you're expecting to lose so if they win going to run But I don't want to be expecting to lose in the first round Until rust fumbled right by the goal line last time He was cooking as they say I Yeah, nine and a half. He had them until Russ fumbled right by the goal line last time. Sure. Remember he was doing one of these? Agree. He was cooking as they say. He was on his way. I agree.

And then he got boom right in the hip. I agree, but Russ has kind of like Phil Conner's falling off a cliff the last month or so. Oh no. Yikes. But they could. But they could go in there. They could beat the Ravens. But then I think the most natural path.

Definitely cover nine and a half. Yeah. Most natural path is Ravens, but then I think the most natural path Yeah, most natural path is Ravens, Bills and then Chiefs And you know, there were years where you'd be like, that's fine But not this year, unfortunately Oh mama, I'm in fear for my life Oh mama, my love Gums got it Where's Brett Michaels at? We need it. Where's Brett? He Brett Michaels. Yeah, that's it. He's not what we need. That's every reaction. Sorry for you Pittsburgh. You're in the playoffs. I don't know I don't know what more you could want at Boston Connor a

Phenomenal mullet on this thing in it Fade there with a mustache. He's that a fucking bow tie this guy got on? A real one too. Wow. You still, is that person still doing their hair like that or what do you think? Uh, it's TBD. Perhaps. Okay. We'll determine it later, won't we? 2B if you will.

Hashtag I don't want to react, but the Patriots are going to the playoffs next season. There's not a doubt in my mind that the ship is heading in the right direction This was the final year the Patriots will be on the island of irrelevancy and Drake May is going to skyrocket into superstardom Immediately con man feels like this a natural reaction for everybody in New England Even though you guys don't even have a head coach right now Yeah, yeah But we do have a head coach and chef T wouldn't say it because he doesn't like to say say things until they're 100% confirmed but he said Mike Vrabel is the leading candidate so basically what he is actually saying is Mike Vrabel is the next head coach of the New England Patriots. We talked about

it earlier obviously there are some rules I do believe Jonathan Kraft and Bob Kraft are going to pray and call Brian Flores just to kind of get the Rooney rule out of the way do some funny stuff with them hey Brian good to see see is your refrigerator running something like that And then you know, they'll do that'll be kind of how it goes. Melichek will send another text message. Congratulations Hey congrats Brian. He did it again and Brian will think he has a job, but he doesn't everyone knows it's variable I think that's kind of a done deal. I think all the other teams know hey we can bring in variable But there's really no point to he's going back to New England. He's gonna be the head coach there He's gonna completely make the culture a championship culture again, which he knows

how to do. And Drake May is going to be the best quarterback in the league and T Higgins and Devante Adams will probably be there too. You think do your job stuff's going back up on the walls? I think do your job stuff's going back on up on the walls. I assume Vrabel even has some Bill Belichick quotes from when he was playing that he might just be like hey We should make this into a sign because it really helped me and I'm sure it's gonna help the rest of the boys and All those players on defense that are great players are probably gonna raise their level of play and look

I mean, we're probably be the toughest fucking team in the league to I already started smoking cigarettes again That's what you said to send to the universe to make the right decision All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Maurice Brown at M. Mario Jr., 24C Junior right here. This is what I'm talking about. Deuce, I wonder if they ever called him. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But?

Jim Hersey is 18 steps ahead of anyone who thinks he's a dumbass. Baccar Klein, Ballard and Scheidt, Stikken, so the Colts can implode next season more than McDaniels' toilet did after Jim laid eyes on it. Then, with the first pick in the 2026 draft, a familiar name, Archie Manning. That'd be a wild thought if that is what Jim Mercy was thinking. We got a statue of a Manning outside, let's bring in another one. That'd be a wild thought if that is what Jim Ursy was thinking.

We got a statue of a Manning outside, let's bring in another one. That'd be thinking ahead obviously, but that would be saying that you're looking for the team not to do good next year. I think Jim has faith that this team is going to do good. I think he actually believes that Chris Bow is going to be able to do his thing this late into his tenure. I think there's a lot of doubt, a lot of questions by a lot of people, but Jim Ursy said he's confident, okay? said he's confident. Okay, so

He's confident. I believe I believe him. He's doing what that tweet said It's kind of like an even Villa evil villain move and he kind of looks like an evil villain on that get-around machine that I saw Him on yesterday. So that'll make I'm buying one. Do you remember when you remember when we were growing up? I think they made these office chairs that you could like Neal on do you remember they were building like zigzag? Yeah, do you remember it looked like that way? it was like a version of that in there and obviously we wish nothing but godspeed for Jim and

his health and everything like that, but Him putting that out immediately after the game told me that hey Not a thought not even that thing was sitting on what was quicker I think Shane's got the Mayo firing tweet which are the news which was like three minutes after the game or gyms. I Think Mayo was quick. That was legitimately felt like craft walking down there go. Hey, thanks for fucking up No more overall picking fire get the fuck out. He got fucking That was not man. Oh shit. Yeah, that was bullshit. I mean, what do they expect? How do you feel about a d-bunch? I think I was I mean I

You don't you we talked about culture and building the culture You can go back through a bunch of coaches and look at their first year and things that they learned Or their first job as a head coach and to give a guy one year after a 24 year period like that was bullshit you didn't expect the seven and eight or ten win season you had a rookie quarterback yet pieces on the team that weren't really there I got a bunch of cap space going forward but I also understand the thought process of if it's gonna be Braves which we expect or even Ben Johnson hey these candidates or this candidate is too good to pass up on so Mayo was put in the bad spot from that standpoint but I was surprised I or even Ben Johnson, hey, these candidates or this candidate is too good to pass up on.

So Mayo was put in the bad spot from that standpoint. But I was surprised. I thought they would definitely stick with him, especially with him being the handpicked successor to Bill Belichick. But we know how cold this business can be. So on one hand, I definitely think he was hosed. He didn't get a fair shake.

And on the other hand, this may be your only opportunity to hire a guy like Mike Vrabel. So I get it from both sides, but I think he was fucked over But I think he'll get another opportunity at some point down the line to be a head coach again this league I think the crafts are getting anxious. They're tired of losing. I think you know, I think they're trying to Figure it out as fast as possible. And you know, I think as a as a New England fan You guys like that the crafts made a decision to move on

Isn't that kind of the overwhelming? Yeah, I I agree with diba like it does suck but also like for the crafts This is a huge baby face move just because everybody, you know hated them from the dynasty documentary And then obviously the team not doing well, it's kind of like hey, this is all on you So them doing this is kind of a big like hey, we did fuck this up We're going to make a change and because variable variables available in like a Ben Johnson's available that the opportunities to get better quicker are seem to be better with them. And also Mayo defensive guy, the defense was so bad and it was damn near the same as it was last year. So the

fact that the defense is worse does not help. Shite! Alright, let's get to the next overreaction shall we? That was about the Colts and then we took it over to the Patriots. I'm happy to hear that. This one's from Andrew. Real Scott Baio. Wow, isn't that a famous Scott Baio? He had a kid when he was like 60 or something.

What show was he on? What was he on? He was in Uncle Jesse. He looks like Uncle Jesse kind of. Scott Baio. That was Chauchy. Chauchy. Chauchy. He was Chauchy. I don't know how to react. Yes, sir. But I don't know what George Patton bought Sean Payton for Christmas, but

whatever it is, it's not enough. Covered up the second worst contract in history with a coaching master class in young dogs. We've got our guy QB on to lose by 40 in Buffalo, hashtag, let's ride. That's like the reality for the Denver Broncos fan base. I respect that a lot AJ. I respect the fact that they're like, we didn't expect to make the playoffs this year. We're taking a massive cap it I think they got like 90 million in dead cap in

total. We got a rookie quarterback trying to figure it out Sean Payton might take a few years to build this thing and then Sean Payton and Broncos go, uh-uh. We got the Chiefs in our division and they still make the playoffs. Good for them, man. I'm happy for Denver. I think they got the team as well. Yeah, Denver. I think Chef even alluded to it. They kind of put the blueprint out on how to find a way to win with massive dead cap numbers, I guess, sitting there and trying to get creative. But you got to draft a rookie quarterback.

That's why people would fire the coaches so quick too. Cause look at how fast they turned it around. They're paying a shitload of money to nothing and turn around two years Peyton's been and they're in the playoffs already. How about Jim Harbaugh? Yeah, one year playoffs. Unbelievable. He told us about how much the guys love football they're in that locker room. He was like, when I got here, it was just amazing how much these guys love football.

Just love football. Bosa, Kalil, man, all they want to do is ball. Just like everything he was talking about was basically that. And they've turned it quick over there. What a drumming. He said that they needed one more week to maximize their toughness going into the playoffs. I think one more week will maximize our toughness.

One of my favorites. It's like that's. Favorites, favorites on the road, first round of the playoffs. Three point favorites that he used to. The unbelie's like that's favorites favorites on the road first round of the playoffs Three-point favorites at Houston the unbelievable that's impressive and they get a Z's out shire back down there in Houston for the playoff run I wonder how much that affected Houston just beat the hell out of the Titans Let's go to another overreaction before we get out of here as we are In the way of everything Eric par part at Eric underscore par part dead gators hashtag I don't ever react but the

Vikings are done the Vikings will lose to the Rams Sam Donahue will even get paid by some crop franchise Aaron Rodgers will sign a one-year deal with Minnesota just like Brett Favre and finally your Super Bowl 60 winner will be the Minnesota Vikings I don't love that they're already looking ahead I don't love that that's happening enjoy Enjoy this year age Enjoy this year Gumps Could you imagine if the dolphins did what the Vikings are doing right now? You lose to the Lions you get your ass kicked You're still playing for the number one overall seed. Let's keep it going There's only two teams they've lost to all year the Viking or the Rams and the Lions and they did it back to back already

Once this year and they're could do it again Do you hear that out of the Canadian right there. Did you hear that? That's a Canadian right there, AJ. That is gump. I mean, that's a bit troublesome. Darnold looked like he was seeing ghosts, man. That was bad. They were getting after him. Legitimate bad. They were creating some good pressure

and a good scheme against him, no doubt. But I mean, that doesn't mean he's going to play bad in the playoffs. We don't know that. He was zeked up. He was zeked up. It was a big night in Detroit. You see the, you only get one shot

Don't miss your chance to blow cuz opportunity comes once in a lifetime Yo, and they did it and then they showed Eminem on the screen. Everybody was there. Do you see that? Maz was impressed. It was the best thing he's ever seen Maz, yeah, Kid Rock probably grabbed him the tongue. He's ever seen in a football game I don't know if they showed him on camera, but Kid Rock was a staple at Detroit when I was on the Packers playing the Lions on the sideline. Yeah. In the locker room, Bobby was carpenter was on the cup or the lines for a couple of years.

He said kid would come in the locker room after games and celebrate with them. Give game balls out like brick. I don't know. I'm sure he's receiving game balls. I don't know if he's giving them out. Speaking of the locker room. How about when Dan Campbell walks to the locker room? He looks like an orangutan He is so big man. He is he's a physical presence in a way. He talks his neck protrudes It's like this guy's doing I think he's doing manual neck exercises I think I think he's got somebody holding a towel on his forehead for his neck when he's giving these interviews what an absolute stud alright

last one here last overreaction this one is from Daniel Jones is really fast at Jays ripping darts okay hashtag I don't ever react but the last time the Bucks played in the wild card versus the Washington what are they called never. But we won a Super Bowl. Baker has taken us back. First order of business taking a massive she-eat on Washington just like those poop pipes did for years in their stadium. Bucks by a hundred says Daniel Jones is really fast. I like that commander's team.

I like the future. Obviously the past has a great history. AJ, what team was he talking about there? Do you uh the Bucks the team gives you coach Gibbs coach some RG 3 got drafted I'll play for them Right I showed him play for them. No Archer even any MVP updates from him yesterday MVP and MVP obviously valuable best Watching MVP updates from him yesterday MVP and MVP obviously valuable best He was in the lab yeah that's what I heard all right all right that was that was over reaction

monday we can't thank everybody enough that was a normal and trend in the united states this morning which is so stupid uh we're gonna get out of here enjoy the hell out of tonight we appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living so everybody here at the wwe that we are currently holding up. We thank you for all your hard work and your setup and for how great the show is going to be tonight. AJ happy birthday good work. Be a friend tell a friend something nice that might change their life.

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