The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1273 - The Trenchys With AQ Shipley, Everything DB Year End Awards With Darius Butler, JJ Watt, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the two college football semifinals on Thursday and Friday, look ahead to Suuuuuuuper Wildcard Weekend, and AQ Shipley gives out the Trenchys, his year end awards for offensive line play, and Darius Butler gives out his year end awards for Everything DB. Joining the progrum to chat about the different coaching vacancies, teams seemingly finding ways around the Rooney Rule when already having a candidate in mind, his thoughts on the different year end awards and why it’s so difficult voting for them this year, and which position group JJ would start at if he were to build a franchise from the ground up is 3x DPOY, future First Ballot Hall of Famer, Houston Texans Ring of Honor member, and analyst for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow when we’ll be LIVE from the Orange Bowl in Miami. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, The Thunderdome on this WED Wednesday January 8th 2025 this program starts now! Football! It is wonderful and today we're gonna be giving out some awards. Yes it is award season here at the program and there will be two different styles of awards given out. First there will be the Trenchies. The award for the big guys who have dominated all season. We'll have the top five offensive lines from the season.

And then we'll have the best tackle, best guard, and best center in the eyes of a man who played in the NFL for 12 NFL seasons. He was a coach. He's a Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, Penn State man, AQ Shipley! Hey! Hey, AQ!

So good to be back. I know, yeah, we've missed you the last couple weeks. Being serious when I say that, normally we would be talking shit to somebody whenever we say, well, it's been a real shame not seeing you in the last two weeks. It has been. We have missed your presence,

but this is a big one for you. You're giving out an award. I know you've received awards in the past, the Remington and many other Super Bowl trophy, but the Trenchies are a big deal. You took your time, you looked into this. We want to reward the fatso's that are doing the best. Ain't that accurate?

The offensive line is the workhorse of the entire team. And I can't wait to show the best tackle, best guard, best center. I think this year it has become more of a conversation about the Trenches being the determiner on who wins and who loses. And if you were to watch the inside the trenches segment each week and the top five performing offensive lines,

I think you'd be able to tell who was gonna be in the playoffs. The game is one in the trenches and we'll be giving out trenches today. And I know offensive liners don't love that necessarily. No, they don't want to, they do not want, they want to live in anonymity. Is that the word?

Is that the word? No, anonymity. Yeah, certainly you were close there. Sounded like me trying to pronounce some of the Samoa names on Monday night there. That's right. That's what that sounded like. But anonymity is certainly what offensive linemen are looking for. But showing them some love, giving them some love is not a bad thing, especially in 2025. And then we have the All Everything DB team being presented by the one,

the only Darius J Butler He bought just a big deal. We got two safeties one nickel two corners that are gonna be on it all everything DB team How'd you go about putting this team together? I've been watching tape all year obviously grinding tape We've been doing everything DB every week and DB is one of those positions where it's hard to judge You can't just look up stats and so this guy got 120 tackles or six picks or whatever and say hey, that's the best guy to position So just like the old line, you can't just look up, you know stats and then pick out guys So, um, you know, it's always guys that's worthy right at that cutoff lines. Oh, no, I think there's gonna be some drama There's only a first team all everything

Not a first team all everything There's not a second team. There's not a third team. There's only five winners on the All Everything DB team And there's a lot of guys out there that had great season. This was D-Bunch idea Only five only five can win the All Everything DB team Nope, nope participation trophies is not like Dan over talking yesterday How about everybody just gets a trophy or no, it's tough to make it these five guys I think I think we'll all agree on at least four of these five. Son of a bitch. Can't wait to roll those out.

I will have an early indicator. I don't think you're going to be thrilled with the people that were decided. That's a talk today. We'll have Boston Connor and Ty Schmidt. Con man, sweet beanie pal. Hell yeah. Tossel cap. Yeah, it's Moss Cancer.

It came in yesterday. Awesome little beanie here also great merch You got the hood and everything Randy Moss one of the greatest New England Patriots of all time I think we all kind of realized that when Tom Brady came back on his number retired got that massive standing Oh from all New England was crying on the stage definitely teasing piece of him. Shout out Randy Moss Yeah, we love Randy. Love you. Massive fan of Randy Moss all of us Obviously, I don't think I've ever got a chance to fully interact with him. Maybe down at LSU when his kid was playing

and they were in the championship, I got a chance to dap him up and tell him how much, like, hey, everything you've done in sports world has inspired me so much. Massive fan, West Virginia dude, obviously, in high school, him and white chocolate. Yeah. Could you imagine showing up in West Virginia

to a high school game? And you're just like, you got to drive through the hills of hills of West Virginia get there hour and 45 minutes to get to their game You come in Jim is completely rocking and who's warming up on the other side white chocolate and Randy Moss. Okay This is gonna be a good night Yeah, they're throwing it off the backboard to each other and then Randy would obviously go on to crush it Marshall go to the NFL break all the records You see that insane stat line from when he was at the Vikings. Three catches, 180 yards, three touchdowns. It's like that is what that dude was capable of doing every single game, no matter what level he was playing, no matter what sport

he was playing. So what he's going through now, we assume he'll dominate, but you know that we're on your side, Randy. We're all in team loss, brother. Yeah, hell yeah. He's the best. I mean, actually, he was only in New England for I think four or five years, and he was one of those guys that you always look back to the dynasty and everything. You can throw Logan Mankins in there too, like damn, really wish we won the Super Bowl so Randy Moss could have a Super Bowl.

Yeah, I heard him during the roast at Tom Brady say, hey, how come we weren't cheating when I was here? Yeah. Well, they weren't cheating. Any team that had you, Randy, was cheating because there was no one else like you. I mean, you're talking about this before this was even started anytime you can

call something a mouse and change the name and the vernacular of a sport forever you're obviously a legend we love Randy and I assume he's gonna beat the shit out of this and raise a lot of money and attention for it so shout out to Randy we can't wait to see you back on TV doing whatever the hell you want to do I wonder if he's already back. Oh, I'm sure he is. Good therapy. I assume he's just pulling them. Oh, yeah. Ripping lips. So many. Yeah. Holding them up. Mm-hmm. Hey, I'm going through it, but not as much as this fish. That's right. Got him. And Ty Schmidt over there at the talk so, Ted, what are you doing, brother? Well, you know, it's been a long morning, so I figured I'd just crack open an ice-cold real American beer

Wow, okay compliments of D bone who and obviously the whole sir But D bone said you know what these guys need to try it so he drove I think like five hours round trip last night to Ohio to buy a real American beer and Oh Yeah, that's the good stuff. Yeah, you got to be a real American to enjoy that we're all real Americans here So shout out D bone and shout out the Holster. This is ice cold Refreshing pilsner. I mean you just I might have found my new light beer choice Your real America, bro

It's only gonna stay cold for so long. I was reaction last night from friends and family about the press conference of the Hulkster. Pretty good for the most part you know I think you know obviously when when something like that happens you know there's gonna be certain people who are upset with it certain people who you know don't agree with the Hulkster certain people who want who are all on the Hulkster side I'd say all in all it was a it was a pretty it was a pretty good night you piss off everybody well there's people mad from all parties that's how we do it right exactly that's how we knew we did it right in that entire thing that situation was just ripe for the picking

it was for what took place there and I'm happy you're enjoying real American beer performance yesterday with the Hulkster was certainly worthy. I Mean don't make that thing disappear pal. It's only 1207 got a few hours left I mean every sip is more delicious than the previous one. So it's kind of hard not to just I am I'm a real American. Boo! It was loud on Monday. Monday was electrifying. Alright, let's talk some sports here. Let's talk some football.

Mike McCarthy was requested to do an interview with the Chicago Bears and the Dallas Cowboys said, nah, you can't. They denied the request from the Chicago Bears to interview the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys whose contract expires today. Now until the 14th there has been a negotiated into this particular contract a negotiation window for the Dallas Cowboys to either extend or give a new contract to Mike McCarthy before he can talk to anybody else and if you ever listen to Jerry he's always like he could do the contract we did a contract we negotiated a contract so normally this particular window is before the contractires. There's normally a negotiating window that's kind of put in place.

For instance, all the contracts that we sign with anybody, there's like a a period that happens before the contract extends that the company can extend your contract, get a new contract before anybody else can talk to you anywhere else. Do you like what we're doing? We like what you're doing, you could stay. Now that window has been talked about. I think Stephen A had that window that was talking about with ESPN. This has been a part of all businesses. The fact that it happens after his contract expires, very fascinating. That's a very interesting thing that I didn't know took place. I also didn't know it happened with coaches. But I think this is an indicator, especially with them turning

down the Chicago Bears, that maybe they are going to keep old big Mike McCarthy around. AQ Shipley, Yinser Mike McCarthy, obviously has had a lot of wins with Dallas Cowboys this past season. Obviously, Dak gets hurt, things start going a different way. They don't make the playoffs. They're on prime time every week. Jerry Jones got to answer questions with phones so close to his mouth after every single game. How do you feel about this situation?

What do you think the message sends about Jerry Jones keeping this negotiating window exclusive like he has and what do you think about them turning down the Bears? Does this mean Mike McCarthy is gonna be wearing a star for at least four or five more years? You never know with with with old Jerry down there because listen this is this is typical he's a thespian this is typical Jerry this is typical Dallas this is the way that they operate I mean they should have made a bunch of moves last offseason they didn't they keep Mike McCarthy obviously things go south when Dak gets hurt but listen if you're gonna rehire him rehire the guy like make a move make a move right now you got to remember whenever Jason

Garrett was up and everybody thought he was gonna get fired that lingered for a few weeks and then messages started coming out from the team you know through sources and yada yada Jason Garrett's viewed his like a son in this family So Jerry's having a tough time making a decision whether or not he wants to run it back with old Jason Garrett old clappy smiley Or if he wants to get rid of him, is it the same thing with Mike McCarthy? Jerry Jones has had so many real American beers alongside Mike McCarthy. They're in love with each other What do you think it is? It seems like it and I feel like mid in the season. We all kind of saw it. Oh, yeah, Mike He's gonna be out of there. Is it gonna be Bill?

It's gonna be this guy's gonna be that guy But I feel like at least as a player former player from the outside looking in The boys rallied around Mike like they still play for him guys came back from injury Obviously, I think CD end up missing the last game, but he was playing through his shoulder Micah came back from his injury and he played well. So like the boys of the unit, and then publicly they spoke out and said, that came out Micah, you know,

the pillar's kind of in that locker room and backed him. And I think Jerry was talking late in the season and said some things very glowingly about Micah. Now we know that can be said on one day and then get fired on the following Monday. But I think he ends up sticking around because of how they finished, because of how the team, and like you mentioned,

they won a bunch of games. And then what's the alternative? Who's out there, who are you gonna hire that's better than Mike McCarthy at this point in the game? Pat Pamilton? Definitely. Wow. Great candidate.

He might be spoken for. What do you mean? New England hired him. What? New England hired him? Oh, excuse me, excuse me. I'm just saying there's a good chance they do hire him. We don't England hire him? Oh excuse me, excuse me, I'm just saying there's a good chance they do hire him. We don't know everyone's you know making shit about it saying hey they

bring in Byron Lefwich, they bring in Pep Hamilton, they're just checking boxes for the Rooney rule. We know Pep Hamilton's not going to get hired tomorrow. Well I'm pretty certain Pep Hamilton's not going to get hired because of something that I saw. He did a top five under 25 quarterbacks and there's a lot of great names on there. None of them are Drake May, but Drake May's backup Joe Milton who we saw. He was an absolute dog. So I'm not, I know Pep, we know Pep. Yes he was with the Indianapolis Colts. Obviously out of Stanford he comes over the Colts with Andrew Luck. I love Pep Hamilton. I enjoy Pep Hamilton. I think he was with the DC United. DC defenders. Okay. Good squad. Great squad. Beer, beer snakes.

Best offense in the league. Beer snakes over there. They used to fill that place up. I like Pep. Then them interviewing Byron Leff, which remember he was hot to trot coming out of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was gonna be a head coach somewhere. Very quickly that kind of cooled off. He's getting interviews up there with Robert Kraft. Now people are saying, oh, Kraft's making a mockery out of the Rooney rule. Boston Connor, Patriots fan. How do you feel about all the names that they're interviewing? It feels like they're casting a much wider net than anybody would have thought.

Yeah, I love it. Offensive guys, you know, dudes who could come in and work with Drake May. I mean, granted, or Joe Milton, if you're Pep Hamilton in this case. And maybe, you know, Pep's list has changed after seeing what Drake May can do. But I mean, I think this is just kind of part

of what they have to do, you know? And that's a great list, you know, no Jaden Daniels or Bo mix, but still a great list. But- Trevor Lawrence and Joe Milton above Drake may. Yeah. Before the season? Someone Photoshopped this thing.

There's no way. I believe it was before the season. And I think- Did he get a chance to see Drake may? I don't know, yeah. Did he get a chance? I don't think it was before, I think it was before the season rather just because the reactions in the room it looks like the the other two dudes do not agree per se

but when it comes to this guy this guy was a head coach of DC defenders over there this on him he's been around a long, what's your problem, AQ? What is your problem? I think Pep commented on this after the game and he was like pumped. I got to see my guy Joe Milt. I'm pretty sure this was retweeted. So obviously getting an interview is a big deal for a head coaching job. But it has been assumed for almost a couple weeks though

that if Gerard Mayo gets fired Mike Frable is gonna be the head coach. Frable is getting a head coach interview on Thursday is what's being reported I believe by rap sheet reported that. So what are your expectations on how this whole thing goes? My expectations that Mike Frable announces the head coach in the middle of the Patriots. Scott didn't even give Pep and Byron left with a shot. No, I mean, we know, we know, I think we all know it's gonna be Mike Vrabel. And unfortunately, this is the song and dance

they have to do. This is a part of Rooney Rule. Now, the Rooney Rule, in theory, and shout out to the Rooney, shout out, you know, we got a bunch of Steelers fans, shout out to Rooney, it was definitely needed to get black coaches more opportunities, more real opportunities, more,

even to the interview process where you have a chance to get hired. So in theory more real opportunities, more even to the interview process where you have a chance to get hired. So in theory, or as Green would say, maybe in a vacuum, that was a good idea. But outside of it, you know, the Patriots, they probably have their candidate they want, they know they have to hire, but they have to go through this process.

And I'm sure this happens at other places as well. And maybe somebody does blow their socks off during the interview process, but like- Like I would- Maybe they do in a vacuum. Allude to it. Like a vacuum. Yeah, I might've. And maybe somebody does blow their socks off during the interview process, but like like And these are you know good coaches like you mentioned we spent time with pep pep has been around for a long time Byron Lefitch I haven't spent time with him, you know in the building as the coach I think a cute did so I can't really speak on him on Byron, but um, you know, it is kind of What else was the other they They did like a happy hour. Remember they were doing happy hours

down at the owner's meeting? Yeah, exactly. Where, because they say a lot of these owners hire people that they know, or people that are into building know. Yes. And they maybe don't have friendships or relationships outside of the race,

which was a real conversation that was taking place, which I think happens in the real world too. And nobody really wants to bring it up. Everybody wants to be unified, but not a lot of people have this, to learn everything so i think that was happening with the NFL and ownership so they're having like these happy hours and cocktail hours down at the meetings they instituted the Rooney rule i think there was a real effort but now whenever something like this happens and everybody knows yeah you're gonna make a mockery of it that's just that's just

what it is and that's that's the biggest part of it people and that like you mentioned it happens in business it happens in business. It happens in any Fortune 500 companies. Like you tend to hire people you're more comfortable with in your circle. You'll have a beer with. You know, I had a GM tell me years ago that that's basically what it comes down to.

Who's the guy you'd rather have a beer with if all things are equal? But a real American beer? I haven't tried. I don't think I'll try. I don't think I'll try I'm still playing a game. I put the Hawks through about seven tables W2k 24 now 2k 25 coming out maybe with

Hopefully on the hopefully we're talking about I don't know if that was ever official there's just like a lot of eluding to on the cover but yeah January 27th okay but that's what I even said it three times January the 27th the 27th of January and then closes the door 2k25 up there and everybody goes whoa so far tribal chief is up there I think that's gonna be an exciting time but this whole hiring process is getting interesting. Yes. Because we're talking about a lot of culture people getting in there.

Pete Carroll is gonna be interviewing for the Chicago Bears job. I love this. Especially after Pete Carroll kinda got his ass kicked out of Seattle. Now, what is Seattle gonna do? They fired their offense coordinator, Grubb, who was with Kaelin DeBoer at the University of Washington.

So let's assume Grubb goes to the University of Alabama with DeBoer. DeBoer's gonna be pumped about that I do believe because they obviously had massive success together. The Seahawks are gonna have to do what they're gonna have to do to build this next era, this next culture, who's our quarterback, but Pete Carroll is looking for his next chapter as well. Chicago Bears could be a great place for him. I mean if you think about what Pete Carroll is now he is 74 Two or three, something like that. He's up there. He's 70.

He is old. But everybody says about him, no, he's like a 50 year old, 40 year old. He's 73 years old. Chewing the gum, high energy, and the building, it's high energy. That feels like something that could be good for the Chicago Bears team. It feels like something that Caleb Williams would embrace and enjoy. And it feels like that culture could become one that believes in winning. Because every day is about competing.

Every day is about having fun. If we know anything about Pete Carroll, you get to work here, you don't have to work here. So that vibe can certainly bring success and it has had success before. They need a fucking offensive line though, right? Isn't that kind of what everybody's talking about with them, A.Q.? They need everything. It starts with the offensive line, but they need a lot more than just the offensive line. Pete Carroll would be a great starting point.

He brings culture, he brings competitive nature, he brings energy, he brings excitement, he brings fun, a lot of things that they probably didn't experience this year, right? But they do need to get better along the offensive line. I have a question for you. Can any offensive line become a good offensive line? You need to play well together. I've been on teams- Like for instance, for instance. So everybody said that everybody knew the offensive line was gonna be a problem

Going into this year, you know, we had weapons we bring in Keenan Allen We got a dip more we got everybody that we need there But everybody said the offensive line kidney offensive line and then when it plays bad, everybody's like this guy plays bad now There's a lot of plays for Caleb Williams potentially made the offensive line look bad But isn't it true just from somebody that has watched the ball You don't know if an offensive line is gonna be great or not, right? Any line can be great. Yeah Any off the size and ability size and ability you got to be able to play well with each other and scheme and fit I talk about this all the time right like scheme and fit is everything so you can take five

Unbelievable offensive lineman put them in a shitty scheme or a scheme that doesn't necessarily fit those five guys or even three of those five Guys and you're gonna have bad offensive line play but if you take five guys who maybe aren't the most talented guys they like to have beers with each other they like to go to dinner with smoke weed together do all the things with each other and they play better together than they are as individuals now you got a group and as long as they're in the right scheme in the right fit the there are some alignment that have some degenerateness in them. Yeah.

Yeah. There's some. Who are you looking at? Well, he said shoot dice with. And it's like, I was thinking to myself, offense alignment. And then I immediately went to a dice circuit. I was like, oh yeah, the fatso's getting there. They will start.

I've been in there? Yeah. That's the type of. By the way, that's the offense alignment that I'm looking for. Yeah. That is certainly the type of group that you want. So can they take that same group from this past year with a new system maybe, new offensive line, coach, and become a good group or is it a you have to plug

in place type situation? Perfect example is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, right? Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the last seven years based off scheme and fit. Five literally the same five offensive linemen, bottom three rushing team last year, top five rushing team this year. Same exact group. How come? Because you can take Liam Cohen,

the offensive coordinator, goes down to Tampa, comes from the McVeigh world. Boom, eye candy, motion across, motion this guy into the backfield, pull guards this way, this guy going that way You got all this stuff to make it easier on the guys up front and it makes them play better as a unit Well, they said Waldron's offense was one that was very dynamic Dynamic yeah guys couldn't understand so they just ran four routes exotics on offense. It was too much

Yeah, we're putting a hand out there and we're either run blocking right in front of us or we're pass setting in again Be that's all we're gonna do. That's it. I love those coaches that say it ain't hard. Our guys gotta beat their guys. And then there's other coaches that are like, well you can help, you could certainly help. I've been in that world where it's like,

hey listen, we're just gonna go out there, we're gonna play these guys, we're not gonna do anything to help you guys. You're just gonna block these five guys. If they're in Donald Cross from here, go in. He puts on his pants just like you do. That's right. Three sacks into the second quarter, it's like, God, can we get some help here, go in. He puts on his pants just like you do. That's right. Three sacks into the second quarter, it's like,

God, can we get some help? We get some help here. So new coaching can help that offensive lineup there in Chicago. It can help. They're not as far away as it may be appeared on a lot of cases. And also Caleb can help out that offensive line,

which I assume he will learn about this particular off season. Yeah, there's no question about it. He can help a lot. And literally, he can get the ball out quicker. He can, if he feels a little bit of pressure instead of leaking this way And now you just fell into a sack and I just step up a little bit now You just saved everybody helped everybody they ran some clips about Bo Knicks

I feel like that is a big rookie move because in college you can get outside the pocket and then you can cook Now greater we're still seeing with people. I mean Lamar Jackson this year outside the pocket It's had like four or five plays. They're like that looks like Varsity player playing against JV people and they weren't JV people what he did to the Neil Hunter where he was just like And it was like the Neil Hunters and all pro Lamar Jackson at a different level But Lamar Jackson and I assume he would say he had developed this too The first reaction is I'm a better athlete than everybody I can get out of here But what NFL guys do that are great is they actually step up into the traffic almost,

let that play develop a little bit more and then get it the hell out. You might take a shot though at the end of that thing, but that's like the difference I think between like novice new NFL quarterback and experienced veteran quarterback and they're all gonna have to go through it. And Caleb is certainly one of the guys

that's gonna have to do that. And Pete will help with that. I think Pete Carrell will help with that. Yeah, I mean Pete's a veteran coach. He dealt with Russell. I'm sure Russell, if you go back to Russell's rookie year, I bet he did the same thing. I bet he was out here.

And then as he got older, it was like, okay, let's get here. And then let's step back up, let our tackles ride the guy by and make a play. Love when they ride a guy. Yeah, need to sometimes. Ride a guy by. How about your trenchy award-winning tackle? Do you ride a lot of guys by? He a lot of guys by just riding guys just riding guys

Chewing them out Speaking of chewing them out Mark Davis walked in the Antonio Pierce's office yesterday and said well, you're fired So that's two former players that are coaching for teams that have one and done type situation. Las Vegas Raiders, Tom Brady is going to be a massive piece of the collaborative effort to find the new head coach. I'm excited to see what he brings, what questions he asked first, Tom Telesco. I saw somebody tweet me and say, Tom Telesco is trying to bring in Brandon Staley. I, whoa, I don't think that is the case. I do not. I saw somebody say, the writing's on the wall.

He's going to try to bring Brandon Staley back in, just like they did the Chargers. I don't think Tom Tolesco is going to do that. I don't think that is going to be the direction in which he's going to try to go. But if Tom Brady is part of this, Mark Davis is part of this, how much does Tom Tolesco actually say in who the head coach is?

And how much does Tom Brady have to say, Darius Butler? I mean, I would assume he would. I mean, you would have probably the biggest voice in it. That's just an assumption. If you're Mark Davis, obviously he has been around the business for a long, long time with his pops. But, you know, you bring a guy like Tom Brady into the ownership group, you would assume he would have a big voice.

Tom Telesco, he's got to be in it because this is the guy he's going to have, you know, be essentially married to with their head coach, whoever they bring in there. And the Raiders, you know, they've been a shit show since the hirings and the firings, but at the same time, that's still an iconic brand. That's a global brand. So this is a big job. You gotta get your quarterback.

If you don't hit on your quarterback, I don't care who's in the room, who's making, we just saw Rand Cardthorn, he got fired, you don't hit on that quarterback, you don't have a chance unless you have an ownership group that's gonna say hey we're gonna be patient we're gonna give you three four years as long as you show us some progress and because of the fact of where they are in the draft I think they're at six right now and you guys I want to know what you guys all think but

like do you think there's any chance because of Tom Brady's relationship with Chaudhuri of course that maybe Prime, Dion Sanders gets an interview where it's like, hey, if we do bring in this guy, we might not get Chedur at six, but if we were to hire his dad, you could probably assume that they're gonna get him at six. Interesting conversation about Chedur right now. Yeah.

And Cam Ward and all the quarterbacks coming out. I am not a draft analyst. I do not study the film and project where people are going to get drafted. I've seen Shador spin it. I've seen Shador take massive hits. I know that Shador has been around NFL brains his entire life. I saw what they were able to do to Colorado turning that place into a nothing, into a massive something every single week. And obviously there's other stars around him. But I just assume like Ash Shador is gonna be a guy in the NFL then you hear some of these draft experts and they're like people were talking to her

saying Shador ain't number one overall type of guy there's people saying that if Aller was coming out this year from Penn State which I think is still a decision that has to be made because of the projections of what he could potentially be not even what he is now but what he could be would make him the highest rated quarterback and then Cam Ward is being discussed as one of the projections of what he could potentially be, not even what he is now, but what he could be would make him the highest rated quarterback. And then Cam Ward is being discussed as one of the top quarterbacks as well, as he should. The guy is so sweet to watch play football and what he brought to Miami changed their entire culture as well. But there's people that aren't as high, I think, on Shador and Cam in the quarterback discussion as maybe we all would think from outside looking in. So at six, are you okay you know because the way these drafts have gone is at the top is where the quarterbacks are gonna go people are trading up because they don't want to

lose it if they like a guy they're gonna go get it maybe that remains maybe that does remain the case with Chador somebody falls in love and they trade all the way up to one two or three or whatever to get Chador to get Cam Ward to do whatever they have to do but from the rumblings that it sounds like that's been coming out the last couple days once again smoke screen season we're in the middle of bullshit season for everybody is six a good enough position to move up a couple spots the four if you want to get Chador or if you want to make any moves I think so they got Brock Bowers over there who's potentially offensive rookie of

the year with what he was able to accomplish Max is still on the defensive side of the ball you get a little bit of belief you get a quarterback over there who's potentially offensive rookie of the year with what he was able to accomplish. Max is still on the defensive side of the ball. You get a little bit of belief, you get a quarterback over there. Las Vegas is always going to be pumping. I mean, it's always going to be great. It's like, I assume Raiders fans think we're not that far away. And if they were to bring Prime in and hire Coach Prime, obviously Colorado wouldn't be thrilled and everything like that. But that's splash hiring. That gets Las Vegas pumped. And then you bring in Shador, it's like, okay, we're're gonna get the chance to experience this that would be a massive headline winner would it be an actual winner TBD but I think all these teams that are in these positions of hiring new people if you get a good hire you bring hope back to your team into your fan base

into your city which is why these teams that have stuck by the people that they've stuck by have fans so bummed out. Go ahead, Todd I'll just like in terms of the chidur and cam ward stuff like it's all situational like in terms of you have to get the right head coach because The browns are definitely going to take a quarterback at two and from what we've seen over the last like 20 years Like it doesn't matter how good that guy is like they're gonna have to prove that that he can be like History just says that guy's gonna fail the browns are gonna take that guy is like they're going to have to prove that that he can be like history just says that guy's gonna fail the Browns are gonna take that guy you know and he's just never gonna reach his potential should door same deal like if

the if the Raiders with on their head coach and he goes there at number one like there's a good chance in two three years we're doing the same thing we do with a lot of these guys where it's just like oh not not that he's gonna be a bus but it's just like they missed on this guy he's going to have to go elsewhere to be successful so like it does i mean mat hiring the right head coach and obviously the brown situation is a little bit different but hiring the right head coach means everything so speaking of hiring the right head coach uh north carolina tar heels hired bill bella check the arrow from nfl network tom palisero is reporting that multiple nfl teams have reached out to bill bella check

yo and are you sure we won't go high school high school here? Are we sure we want to be dealing with trans reporter? Are we sure we want to be dealing with 17 year olds and 20 year olds that maybe a little bit entitled and don't really get it or do you think maybe come coach with Raiders? So Tom Brady allegedly reached out to his old ball coach. Now was he just reaching out to say happy holidays, happy New Year's because all the great times he spent together, or was he reaching out to say, hey, are we, we get it, you took a stand. You said, I just want to coach ball. We, you're 15 wins away. That's it. You're 15 wins away. Do you want to do what you want to do? Interesting, fascinating,

because as soon as he was hired to North Carolina, the overwhelming reaction, even by people that hated Bill Belichick as a New England Patriot, was basically like, this guy's willing to coach anything and the fact that he's not an NFL coach is bullshit. Even the people that didn't want him to become a coach for their team were saying, this is wild that he can't get an NFL job. Turns out, the arrows telling us, a lot of people are like, hey, last year that coaching cycle, those people messed it up. That's not on us. We are now in the market. Would you want to come?

And I think it's a $1 million buyout, something like that after June. Yeah, after June, right? 10 before, one after. Yeah, Belichick's UNC contract includes a $10 million buyout if he leaves prior to June 1st, which 10 million bucks. Bill Belichick can do that.

Any NFL team can do that. Yeah. Anybody can do that. And then 1 million bucks, obviously, if he leaves prior to June 1st, 2005, and if he returns the NFL, I think it's after June 1st, it's like 1 million bucks or something like that. So I think it becomes a very manageable contract

and I think he negotiated that way because this could potentially be an opportunity if the dream job opens up. Now, Mark Davis, Tom Telesco, would they allow Bill Belichick to come in and do his thing out there? If Tom Brady's saying, hey, this is what we're doing, I think they certainly would.

How does Bill feel about it? We'll ask him next Monday. Will he give us an answer? Absolutely not. No way. Will everybody that's recruiting the same players that Bill Belichick is recruiting, use this against him? Absolutely.

Just like they were doing to Nick Saban for the last 10 years of his college coaching career, where they're like, he's quitting. He's already got, he's Hall of Fame, he's already go brother. You think he's going to stick around for you if you come? You need to come to us, don't you? Nick Saban is great, was great, but he's not going to be there for you. They're using that already at UNC. That actually might be some other college teams telling Tom Pellissere that information right there to get Bill screwed out of recruiting. Joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who,

maybe he'll be a coach someday. Should be. Maybe he'll be president someday. Maybe. Maybe he'll be an owner of a team. It's he, the Kelseys, in Manning on every commercial whenever you watch any NFL game. Ladies and gentlemen JJ one

Jade you doing too much or no, you think you're in a good spot. I Think I'm in a great spot. I think I'm in a great spot. I got a very good-looking schedule coming up I'm loving it really enjoying it life is beautiful. I think you are you're doing too much. Hey, yeah, let's look pot kettle here. Yeah Yeah Are you doing too much? Hey, yeah, let's let the pot kettle here. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I am but I am I am in places where people know that I'm gonna be there That's what the commercials the commercials you pop up into everybody's life when they don't know you're gonna be there And I like to say to your credit. I don't think I've seen a lot of people saying we're tired of seeing JJ What have you a great commercial other people people have said said but like for JJ there's never like a boy I'm sick of seeing this son of a bitch nobody's really saying that. No. JJ good for you that's not easy in the modern

world that's not easy. There's plenty of people saying it don't worry there's plenty of people saying it. Yeah but those people stink you know those people have no brains and those people might not even be real the real thing is the fact that we all love you and And how's Burnley doing? I see a soccer ball over your shoulder. I see the hat on. Are we still in that second league? And are we getting up to the big leagues ever?

We're playing, we're playing great ball, brother. We're playing great ball. We have played 26 matches this season, nine goals given up. We're going on a historic all time level run. Defense is absolutely stout. Okay goalie good too, standing on head every single week. Goalie great James Trafford phenomenal young goalie future England number one fantastic keeper. So he's not on your team for long then he's gone right isn't that kind of how that's gonna go? Don't worry about it we'll figure it out

out. We got a lot of good goalies in England will be our who's we brother I don't think you want to be associated with England, right? Much about it. I have learned more about England in the last four days on that That may be since world history back in high school legit and all I know then is 1776 brother hey taxation without representation I don't think so yeah your stupid T's getting tossed right into this goddamn Bay right here and we can go on do this thing but nonetheless I know you're a pillar over there. Hopefully you'll help make it right because what I'm reading is there's a lot wrong over there

Great people though great people, of course. No, I'm watching the dark. So I'm watching Luke the new Luke Littler He had another world-class championship performance. He's unbelievable that goat. He is Luke Littler. How was he now? 17. Yeah His last big world championship win, what did he want to do? Performance he's unbelievable that goat. He is Luke littler. How was he now? 17 yeah His last big world championship win, what did he want to do? What he just fancied him a couple kee bobs and some vapes maybe a coke or a Fanta Judge Back to the NFL. Shall we? American football

We just talked about prime potentially going to Las Vegas. We just talked about Bill Belichick potentially getting back into the NFL. We just talked about Pete Carroll getting interviewed by the Chicago Bears and we just talked about Mike McCarthy being denied access to an interview with the Chicago Bears by the Dallas Cowboys because he is in an exclusive negotiating window with the Dallas Cowboys until the 14th. What are your thoughts on this coaching cycle and which one of those piques your interest the most, Jage? The whole cycle is really really interesting to me. The Belichick one is

fascinating because you don't build your contract like that if you don't want to at least keep that door open for a reason. I mean otherwise why would you have such a little buyout? And just thinking about the possibilities of that and what the logistics of if that happened and what North Carolina would do, how it would all work. I mean, that's just a fascinating, fun one to think about. McCarthy one's interesting because like, he's technically out of a job right now,

but he's also in that exclusive window. So it's funny that he doesn't have a job but is not allowed to talk to the team. I don't know how his agent agreed to that because normally that exclusive negotiating window happens before the contract expires. I don't know how this was agreed to and I don't know how normal this is. This is my first time ever hearing about this. No, no, it's very interesting. It's like he's free but he's not free, so very weird there. Prime obviously would just be phenomenal for many reasons. Entertaining, just chaos, it would be great. Pete Carroll I think deserves another shot.

I don't know why it's such a, like why it's not more common that he should get another shot and would be successful. I think that he's a great ball coach, guys love playing for, has had success. He's a guy that I would certainly look at. And he's also one of those CEO types who, yes, he has his hands in a lot of the different things but he's not going to be running your offense or your defense. He's going to be overseeing the organization as a whole and making sure the entire thing runs properly So I really like him and then obviously Brave or in New England makes a whole lot of sense

I mean, I think everybody kind of thinks that's where that's going. Certainly makes a lot of sense there What's that all and then the guys? Guys But sense would say it does make it. Well depending upon which Sense you are viewing it from. Are you talking about Sense as in C-E-N-T-S? Because I think Patriot fans say we'll pay more money if all of Rabe's come, but Sense might be, let's get Pep Hamilton around this young quarterback.

It's that bottom left which worked with this young quarterback a little bit. But Sense would also say that Pep Hamilton, you You know if he loves Joe Milton so much he might not be the right you know choice because it's Drake May's football team You don't think that Hamilton fall in love with Drake May. What do you say? I just think what a Hamilton's coming in with a Joe Milton mindset We might need a more open-minded head coach if he's already thinking. Hey Joe. Milton's my quarterback. Hey, man Drake May's our quarterback but how do you feel about that JJ as far as the Rooney rule goes because Obviously as a Patriots fan, it's felt like variable the whole way from the front office. It's felt like variable with Kraft

It feels like variable but then with the Rooney rule people are kind of bashing the Patriots as just kind of making it a big Old joke because they interviewed both Byron and making it a big old joke because they interviewed both Byron and Pep yesterday. Do you think it is a big old joke for one and two if if you have a guy in your mind that you think should be your head coach can you really blame the Patriots for doing something like this because now because they did this yesterday they could in theory hire Vrabel tomorrow when he gets in New England for his interview. I think that a lot of these teams doing their interviews have a very short list in their head, two or three guys that they actually think that they might hire.

Some of these teams are interviewing 10, 15 guys and taking a whole lot of time and effort and energy to go through this whole process where not many of them are serious. Now, are some of them doing it for the Rooney Rule? I'm sure there probably are some for that because you have to go through that process. I think there's a lot of reasons that people are interviewing coaches, whether it's some GMs or owners have the same agent or have some reasons why it's good. If a guy gets a head coaching interview, his name gets out there as a potential future head coach, even if there's zero intention of hiring him at this moment.

Some guys are getting reps at interviews for future years and all sorts of things. So there's many different reasons why guys get interviewed. And a lot of times in my personal opinion, there's a pretty, pretty short list of who's actually doing a real interview and who's doing an exercise. The Jets are interviewing 45 people as are the Chicago Bears. The more information, the more intel, the better, I guess, but also too much information maybe gets lost in the clutter. Let's say you were potentially running a team.

AQ has a question for you. Yeah, JJ, if you got one of these jobs, how would you build the team? Well, I mean, which job, which team? Like, I got to, Any team. What's your philosophy? Would you build through the trenches? Would you go get a quarterback?

How would you do it? It depends on what you have right now. So I mean, obviously if you have Caleb Williams or you have Drake May, you have a young quarterback who you've already got that position established and you also don't have a lot of money invested in it. I'm going extremely heavily into the offensive and defensive lines. I think if that's the safest, best possible way to build your team, if you're trying to do it right and you also know you have the runway, that's part of the problem that also

happens in today's NFL is that guys are losing jobs after one year. So we're not being able to build a team how it needs to be built from a foundation inside out because coaches are now starting to think to themselves, I got to win this year right now. I can't build a culture. I can't build a program. I can't do it the way that I want to do it. I just need to figure out how can I get the best possible players right now to win this

season so that I can have this job again next year. And that's really, really tough to do. Well, how come some guys can do it and some people can't? You know how come how come Jim Horbaugh can go over there and say you know what? Silver Bells. Silver Bells. They're able to just win immediately upon arrival. D'Amico Ryan's goes into the biggest dumpster fire in the NFL. The Houston Stupid Texans who are sitting in a great spot

for the next 10 years. It does appear in the AFC South. Able to flip it around. We'll get there. Okay, yeah, let's not. We'll get there. Yeah, I know. I'm sure we will.

But it is, why do you think some of this plays? Is it because the roster that they inherit? So like, so I look at D'Am the roster that they inherit so like So I look at D'amico to me is the outlier because I look at harbaugh on the chargers and I look at dan quinn with the commanders Those are two guys that have turned around programs extremely quickly clearly put their stamp on and done a great job Those two guys have coached before and have been successful before I think that experience really pays off And that's also why I say D'amico is the outlier because he's that one young head coach who did not have head coaching experience before who has done it

extremely quickly. And I also think that's part of the reason a lot of these other owners are firing coaches so quickly is because they're looking they're saying why can't you turn a team around like that and I don't think it's fair to compare a Gerard Mayo to Dan Quinn or to Jim Harbaugh because they have the experience but I do think a guy like Robert Kraft is looking at D'Amico and saying he did it down there in a really really bad situation and now he's got two division titles in a row why did we struggle so badly at this boom I need to try somebody else.

It's tough man D'Amico to me is just a special cat and you just catch yourself with the right guy in the right situation. Well there's only 32 jobs so I think everybody's trying to catch a special cat and you want to talk about special cat. Jim Harbaugh is the man. We went over there to the bowl. We met your guy Coach Herb. We met your guy, the strength coach, Pittsburgh, Ginzer, strength coach Pittsburgh Yinzer legend coach dog absolute dog And we're doing that silver bells Song because they have a vip club in their weight room Uh called the silver bells club and there's red velvet rope around it

You got to get in as if it's vip around a couple uh the bench their one arm Uh dumbbell pressing 200 pounds cal Khalil Mack. Crazy. Doing that. He's part of the Silver Bells Club. Justin Herbert, one arm, 150 pounds. That's a quarterback doing that net, let alone the entire room. But Jim Harbaugh, I asked him about why he thought he was able to succeed so quickly. And obviously he said, Justin, we got the golden goose, Justin Herbert, which is how

he has been since he got there. But he said, everybody in here loves ball. He said, Bosa, Khalil, these guys just love ball. And that's why whenever he says, I've found that people that love ball like me, and I like people that love ball. He feels like he went into the perfect situation, but he was able to pick and choose kind of, right? He was able to kind of sort out where he wanted to go, have have a quarterback and then get a chance to kind of experience who the players are

they've been waiting to be great is basically what Jim Harbaugh said he said I'm just lucky to kind of be a part of it all was the way he viewed it that's why I like Ben Johnson has been so picky I think I think Ben Johnson is like situations gonna have to be perfect for me to leave what I'm currently doing he's making millions and millions as an offensive coordinator and he could go right back to Sheila Ford-Hamp this off season and say hey I'm gonna need about another million you know just so it makes sense so I can tell my wife and my family the reason why I'm turning down

10 million a year to go be a head coach here is because I'm making 5 million to be an offensive coordinator here in a great situation we're gonna be happier not everybody can do that I guess guess, you know, not everybody has the capability of doing that. I so I've also seen a lot of things out there, obviously, I mean, Ben Johnson, no doubt, Aaron Glenn, no doubt should be top tier candidates, and they absolutely. I've seen a lot of people like give them whatever they want, don't even need to interview them. I think one of the biggest misconceptions, in my personal opinion, is that a great coordinator

is automatically going to be a great coordinator is automatically going to be a great head coach. I think the interview process, sitting down with that guy, figuring out who he is as a person, how he handles the personality, the egos, the distractions, everything in the locker room, how he has a vision for the entire organization because the head coach is setting the standard for everybody in the entire building He has to set the expectations at each level below him Everybody obviously then reports up the ladder to him and he's the one who needs to make sure the entire thing goes smoothly

When you're a coordinator you really got one major job you take that side of the ball you make that side of the ball successful Yes, you have a couple people reporting you online coach receivers coach, but you are not running the whole organization I think it is a massively different thing and you cannot just assume that a great coordinator is going to be a great head coach Yeah, because as a coordinator all of a sudden you're dealing with everybody's bullshit Not just your side of the balls bullshit, you know And it's not just like the other side of the balls bullshit, especially teams bullshit You're also dealing with sales and front office and ownership and the amount of things that come across your desk. Chuck McGonagall is talking about travel. Hey, what do you tell him?

He's talking every day. The itinerary of the day, what's it going to look like? How long are we a lot of... And you're even hiring an offensive, let's say you're an offensive coordinator and you become a head coach. You're going to hire an offensive coordinator, but you also know that the reason you got hired is because your offense was great. So you're going to have your hands in that that offense even if you say your hands off or whatnot You're gonna be in those meetings. You're gonna be taking that time So during the game if the offense is struggling You're gonna be over there looking trying to figure that out when you also have global problems with special teams with defense

So I also very much Think that it's tough for a head coach to be the main playing caller on one side of the ball. That's very difficult to do. Yeah, and Chuck tells the story about he sat down there after the press conference everybody celebrated and everything and Miss Tina was sitting in there and there was nobody else in the room. He was sitting at the desk and he said he opened the thing. Where's the pamphlet at for this? And there is no, you can do it so many different ways. You can coach in so many different styles. Your itinerary can be whatever you know you dream it to be there is a recipe for success for all teams you have to have

certain traits but it's like how are you gonna define your head coaching ability and that is that what falls on your lap whenever you get hired good luck to all candidates. There's an organization out there there's an organization out there that people thought might might not make a move after this season. They decided not to make a move after this season, but they have in the past made a move mid-season where they brought in a former player with no head coaching experience. And I'm curious if that's something you would ever consider if a certain season didn't go a certain way and you got a phone call and they said hey we need an

Interim that could possibly turn into a full-time Would you possibly interested in and say an old team of yours calling to do a you know job if they're not doing well Which they haven't done all quite a while. They did fire their coach. They hired Rich Rodri. Are you you're talking about West, Virginia? That's who you're talking about. No, I'm talking about the one in the AFC South that hasn't won it like forever this graphic made its way onto the internet and this was devastating for the AFC West okay there is certainly one particular particular team that's been there and then for the AFC South boy you see everybody you You see everybody. Everybody's on there. That's dope. But you don't, though. But you don't, though.

Everybody's all in there. You know, everybody's on there. I thought there were four teams per division. There's two divisions there that only got three. Lot of blues on there. Yeah, I guess you don't see any Colts blue there. This upcoming year, though, he's the one. This upcoming year is the one.

And then you see the passing of the reigns of the dynasty, basically, over there in the AFC. And then you see the passing of the reins of the dynasty basically over there in the AFC East. Not saying that the Bills picked up the dynasty, but certainly for the AFC East they did and it's their time. Their window still wide open going into the weekend, which leads to this. Now would I go coach the Indianapolis Colts mid-season next year? Half season, yeah.

I feel like a half season you might consider. Like if it was like, hey, it's week 10, we need a guy just to finish it out. I feel like you might consider that brother I'm not at the stage of life that I want to be coaching anybody, you know, 25 million bucks But yeah, this would be awesome brother 25 million bucks in the last eight weeks in season you on the sidelines 25 million bucks. Who's paying that? Okay, Jimbo, right? Yeah, okay. Yep. That is cute. No, I think you, I do, I think with the right amount of weeks or okay let's say let's say it was

three weeks left and he was like screw it. I'm in business. We got employees, we got families. This guy's got a three-month fold. This guy's got a three-month fold right over here. We're gonna run the whole thing from here. We're gonna have behind the scenes our own hard knock style. Pat McAfee hard knocks. You're going to run the show from from the facility Lucas Oil every week. I thought about this. I saw a lot of people, you know, not a lot of people, a good amount of people from the Indianapolis world in the Colts team that were saying like, why don't you run team? You seemingly know all the answers. Why don't you run team? It's like that would be the angle if I was ever getting the NFL. Not with the Colts specifically because once again I think Chris Ballard's like such a good human like you listen to what he's done for the community like he is such a good human. Now that graphic is damning

because he's been there for eight of those years you know that is eight years people are going into their second contract getting drafted by Chris Ballard and then finishing a second contract with Chris Ballard still and have not won the AFC South. So their culture is pretty well cemented in place what it's gonna be. It's career. If you're lucky it's a full NFL career. My career was eight years long. That is how long my career was. Now that is the how long Ballard has been in charge of running the Indianapolis Colts and obviously there has been a lot of success at the beginning. I think there's been a lot of like, Hey, Andrew Luck retired 17 days before season.

That that throws a wrench in average salary cap team build. How we doing this whole thing that changes everything. But eight years into it's a very, very long time. You know, that's a long time. Now I think Chris Ballard, if he was to leave the Colts would easily get a job somewhere else and potentially become GM again at some point, which I think everybody would understand. But I don't think coaching is ever something

I'd want to do. I think the front office president of operations would be more so, I think, because I would also like to dabble over into the marketing, the advertising, the social media, the every, you know, that is kind of the world that I would want to live in. So my answer would be no to coaching half a season. But that's not going to be the case because wait until you see what AR does this off season.

Okay. He learned how to get, how to work, how to be a pro whenever he was benched for those two weeks for Joe Flacco. Everybody's talking about it. They won that last game. Took the hands of the air in the sweets. They were going around all the sweets. I saw they were shaking everybody's hands and all the sweets and Jim Erce said he's proud of boys getting eight nine win over time whenever Jacksonville fucking Jaguars one and oh in 2025 all right all right hey we're going in the off season with a lot of buzz you know and a lot of people made a lot more out of

that thing uh than I thought of it I thought it was uh certainly a gimmick but then I'm I understand why people were saying, but you beat the Jets. I don't think we should be doing, you know, it's like when they went on the podcast and they beat the Jets, and then they had it all figured out, you know, and then the next one.

It was interesting to call attention to the feud between you and them, because I had to think, I make a lot of people agree with one side of the feud more than the other side. It does feel pretty good, that does feel pretty good. I would like to let everybody know and I love you for your support. I love the Colts, you know, all this is because Jim Ursay's money launched it all. Now, I certainly earned it. Let's not get crazy. Maybe get drafted shouldn't have been but Bill Pullian had faith that I figured it out. I'm very thankful for him for that.

But Jim Ursay and I obviously had a relationship, have a relationship and it's like his money and what he has done for me, my life, my friends, my family is certainly unbelievable. And he's given a lot back to the Indianapolis Colts. So I have a great appreciation for the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, she's just taking over multi-year for the Indianapolis Colts. Talk about the Colts a lot. I would just like to see the Colts be great, you know?

So whenever we see things that are not what great teams do, it's hard not to say it in there because you know Passion gets conflicted with what I'm talking about, but that's what we do every single day I have I have hope that they'll be able to put the toothpaste back into the tube I said that on Monday I think they're gonna be able to do it their cultures are to been cemented for eight years But I think they're gonna be able to change I think accountability is gonna be a paid attention to a little bit more held in higher regard

I think work ethics is gonna be something maybe a little pride and caring is gonna be in there. I think they're gonna try to become a likable team because I think they're not a very likable squad. I think it is hard to like this. I think that's all gonna happen this off season. Boom bang, how you doing? Keep moving.

All of it. Yeah, look out Texans. Okay, CJ Stroud is all on naysayers right now about this particular weekends game. And he said we had that last year too. and then look what happened not saying that this year is last year but what he needs to worry about is that the Colts and I know their ponies are barked and that's what this offseason is gonna be all about before we get to the offseason there's obviously a lot of awards Darius Butler has a question for you. Yes big awards awards. I believe over your right shoulder,

there might be three Defensive Player of the Year awards. Yeah, that's going to get shot at us. Wow! Damn! That's some impressive hardware. That's it? No watch for pain? Your brothers, I'm sure, are right up there

at the top of the odds, along with some other Wisconsin Badgers. But Zach Baum, TJ, Trey, Surt Tan, all the guys that are in the war. How do you think this year specifically try to, you know, bias aside? How do you think you should go about picking a defensive player of the year this year? I think it's about as wide open as it's been in a while. I really do. I think it's there's no real clear cut. Obviously, you kind of There's no real clear cut. Obviously, kind of generally as you've seen, pass rushers get that first look. That's just the statistics of how it goes. So you look at Trey Hendriksen, I think he's certainly had a phenomenal year.

I think he certainly deserves to be in that discussion. A guy that I think is extremely overlooked in all this, just as I look through it all myself, I don't have a vote, I'm not a voter. So I just look through it to see how it goes Andrew van Ginkel up in Minnesota like to pick six is on the year I think he has like six six PB use is over 75 tackles on the year possibly 80 He's got over 11 sacks like he's doing everything in the run in the past Dropping back rushing the passer picking, doing a little bit of everything. I think he's overlooked partially playing up there in Minnesota. I think Jonathan Garnard on the other side is also a great player.

That duo doesn't get talked about enough. Obviously you've got Pats or Tan playing unbelievable ball as well, just shutting everybody down he plays. DBs are really hard as you know to judge off of numbers because some of the best ones ever don't get thrown at so they don't get the same numbers I completely understand that as well Obviously miles had another great year and deserves to be up in that conversation as well just based off how great he's played To say that it's very nice. I

mean Always the same and then obviously TJ's up there as well for everything He does the way he affects the game, how he does it. So it's wide open. I'm very curious to see what voters are going to do. And who knows? I have literally no idea.

Let's have a hammer. With AP Tone. Tone, did you listen to what Jade just said? And is that going to change anything as you have to put your vote in today? Right, Tone? I wasn't just listening. I was taking notes, okay? Smart guy.

Because you would be stupid to not listen to the three-time defensive player of the year. And I do believe it's one of the hardest years for defense player of the year because, I don't know if they're, like you said, and we talked to Dan about it yesterday, there hasn't been that one standout guy, like the years where TJ had 22 sacks or last year

when he was clearly the defensive MVP Defensive player of the year. Sorry and did not win it last year. The AP messed that one up Oh, you're not a part of them that no, I did not tone saying the crew last year. I did not I did not vote last year, but no cuz it's crazy because you're JJ talks about it You know, it's kind of like the MVP's become a quarterback award and the defensive player of the year has kind of become a pass rusher award. So you kind of start there, but I feel like this year you throw in the Patsyartan in the corner, Kirby, Joseph at safety, Zach Vaughn at linebacker, then you have those edge rushers

as well. There is a lot to take in this year. Wow, Tom, we think you're going to get it right. I'm curious, Tony, I'm curious because you would know this better than I do obviously I've I believe that the voting changed this year from past years where now it's one through five and they're awarded points based on where You're voted, correct? Yes, because I do think that's gonna play a big part in it here Depending on how that's all weighted because I do think certain guys like I like we talked about TJ. I was like I think The second place third place votes are obviously gonna help come

Be in addition to first place votes and that's where it's gonna be interesting in a year like this where I don't think there's one Clear cut number one agreed Jade's we appreciate you a P tone and good luck with your voting Jade's thank for making time for us If you want to join us in a second hour you you can. The person who's going to potentially join us is in Southern California right now battling through insane fire, no power. Wow. Yeah, I can see that.

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Now, football has been great to us and we're lucky to talk about it. It's actually award season here on the program. Today we'll be giving out some football awards. The Trenchies will be given out by 12 year NFL veteran Super Bowl champion, AQ Shipley. AQ! AQ, the way you're sitting, you can't really see

that at Penn State, boom. Nailed it. How do you feel about them taking on Notre Dame? James Franklin's cracking jokes about Marcus Freeman's hairline and how old he is. I think there's a lot of mutual respect. He said, no, it was compliment. It was compliment.

They're sitting in a press conference and he goes to Marcus Freeman and goes, how old are you? And Marcus Freeman goes, 38. And then he goes, look at this guy. I get envious of this guy's hairline every single time. I think James Frankel is complimenting how young Marcus Freeman is

and how great of a job he has done, which he certainly has. He has brought a different energy level, moxie and athleticism to this Notre Dame football team that is still physical, still very disciplined, taking on basically a mirror of themselves in this Penn State team. Now, I think the weapon, Tyler Warren's a little bit different, a little bit of an outlier. I don't think Notre Dame has that. I also think there's a couple backs for Penn State that are able to go bananas. I think the quarterback, Drew Aller, can spin the pill spin the pill but also is he always gonna make the right decision. Feels like Riley Leonard's in a position right now where he's making the right decisions, he's running the ball, and he's carrying that team on his damn back. Fresh off a

massive win over the Georgia Bulldogs they'll be taking on your Penn State Nittany Lions fresh out of an away game at the Fiesta Bowl against Boise State. How do you feel about the squad that you guys have going into the semi-finals? I think it's a heavyweight fight between Notre Dame and Penn State. I think we got a lot of big-time shots. Both defenses fly around. I mean I am excited for this one down in Miami. I'm excited for this game too. I watched them live, boots on the ground at the Fiesta Bowl and that Penn State team is special. This is the best Penn State team they've had in a long time and

I almost just lost my breath there. I'm getting so fired up talking about these guys. Tyler, we're- You're choked up because of how good they are. You didn't lose your breath. You were getting choked up because of how great this Penn State team is. It's making you emotional

because this is what Penn State people have been dreaming of. This is the situation that Penn State folks who have always been left out of the Big Ten Convo. When it was leaders and legends in East and West, you know Michigan and Ohio State dominated the division of the conference that Penn State had been in. Penn State was always three. Penn State was always three. Always three. Now there was a little bit of an opportunity this year. Ohio State's still wagging. Yeah. Absolute wagging. They look incredible. In this entire thing. Oregon obviously comes in. They're going to be ready and revamped next year we

assume with a team that's still gonna be great. Hell of a run by those SCO-Docs out there in Oregon, but this Penn State team feels real. And it feels like a real opportunity for Penn State to do something. I think Penn State fans are a little bit like, I think they're a little hesitant on it all though. I think you're like, optimistic, but not, I don't think this was expected. I'm almost too optimistic. I was telling the boys when I came in today, I feel real good about this. I think offensively, this is, they're a better offensive football team,

I think, than Notre Dame. Defensively, both teams are great defenses, physical on both sides, good coaches. I played against Marcus Freeman when he was at Ohio State. Love everything he's brought to that team. Special teams wise might be the difference maker. We'll see what happens.

But I love this Penn State team. I love everything that they're doing. They're all in, we've talked about this. Offensively, Tyler Warren, dog, Aller, the running backs, offensive line, best offensive line they've had in a while. Feel good about it. Best offensive line they've ever had is what I'm being told. Wow.

Relax over there. Relax. What they're saying? You gotta remit. Relax. My offensive line, center guard guard, 34 years of NFL experience. Let's relax.

We don't know what this Penn State offensive line is going to do, but it does feel I'm happy for you Penn Staters. Legitimately, I'm happy for you Penn Staters. This is what they've been waiting for. This is the playoff. This is exactly, I mean, we've always been left out, right? Like we were never going to make the top four. We were never going to make the top four no matter matter what but the minute they made it 12 and we

felt like we had a chance to get in the dance this is exactly where we're and I'm also incredibly happy for the Notre Dame's yeah it is it is something that I think even the Notre Dame fans would say we lose these games like the couple games that they have just won last Georgia last week, especially that we lose this You're not your Catholic school kids There's a massive Notre Dame fan going up had always planned on going to Notre Dame like for college and like yeah last week was Like that, I mean granted and that Georgia team wasn't the same Georgia team that we've seen I thought the last couple years but regardless five stars everywhere and that is just kind of typically always the game at least in

five stars everywhere and that is just kind of typically always the game at least in recent history that it's like Notre Dame's just they just it's just too much it they just keep for whatever reason especially watch cuz of speed brother exactly that is always conversation is nine-year NFL vet Darius J Butler joins us Yukon legend but has been able to be on the field for basically every college football big game for the last couple years which we are very lucky to be a part of but Notre Dame always had an issue with the miles per hour. Whenever they would get into these big games this year it's like they got dudes and they are physical enough I think to wear down

other teams that might be big strong and fast. It's like this Notre Dame team is built differently this year than it ever has been it feels like. They are and that's obviously part of the you know transfer portal era as well And I think they put a side-by-side I saw maybe on X of like the four or five three stars on different each roster and like you mentioned wants to playoff time Or national championship time or whatever getting close to that Yeah, it's gonna be built to ask once they run into these one of these SCT teams But it hasn't been that case and then Marcus Freeman will talk about him

like the job that he's done coaching like in all three phases having the boys ready like at 38 30 like we play with He was my teammate at the senior bowl. So like we've seen this guy come up and I didn't add so I beat Marcus Freeman North north first south was a little you know, I was on the south. I didn't love it mouse bra that was the only one name God rest I didn't love that. I was on south was the only one that they've got recently. I didn't love that I was on the South. Mouse power. Guys had the edge. Once again, shocker. Also we had USC at that time.

Yep. We had Ray. Mm-hmm. Maloogah. Was Claire. Damn. Maloogah. And Claire.

Yeah, and Kutch. Or not Kutching. Cushing, Cushing, Cushing. Oh man. And then, Fili Muala was also on that team. He ends up getting drafted to the Colts. So we had all the USC guys, we had the SEC,

and then ultimately we had Pat White. And- He had said a chance, punch. It's a good game. I didn't know we beat the hell out of Marcus Freeman. He's been a great, great coach. You know, I won the coaching battle last week, and obviously we'll see if he can win it again this week.

I like where Notre Dame is. And when you talk about having money that helps they got it. They got a Lot of boosters. Yeah pretty powerful institution behind them as well and also a funnel of a pipeline from Catholic schools Yeah, which I did not learn until I talked to you I kids Catholic school kids are gonna know this I didn't associate with a lot of Catholic school kids throughout my entire life I actually had quite a vision of you guys for a large part of my life and Still I have to bury that thought about you guys from all my life Basically judging how soft you guys would have to be to be Catholic school kids and you are khakis every day shut up I don't want to hear it like that. Oh, you can't it's expensive to go to a Catholic school

Oh you come from so that is how I've always viewed Catholic school kids growing up. Now, getting to know a lot of Catholic school, I was pretty wrong about a lot of these dudes. Now, I'm sure there are those people that exist in those Catholic schools, but it's like, there is a discipline that is taught in there that certainly helps in life

and everything like that. And having that pipeline of Catholic schools wanting to go to Notre, like the dream is to go to Notre Dame. Like that is kind of the thought through all these Catholics. That's going to help out plus the NIL plus everything else they are cooking. It's a good time to be a Notre Dame fighting Irish fan. Without a doubt. And you know, I think a lot of like Notre Dame fans appreciate that Marcus Freeman for

by large, like he's a good dude he doesn't seem like a sack of shite which may be the previous guy you know a lot of people kind of thought he was towards the end no shots fired kind of just is what it is but like he's doing it he's doing it the right way as well you know which I think a lot of people especially around that campus and long time Notre Dame fans appreciate he's a Catholic too I think he converted to Catholicism and he's like like, he is seemingly the guy, he can have that job for 40 years too. Yes. Like actually at the age of 38. For sure. And remember how the team reacted when he was announced as the head coach.

I don't think they knew, right? Yeah, they didn't know. So they knew obviously Brian left and then he walked into the weight room and it was a big, like, it was pretty dope. Yeah, I think the strength coach and a lot of the coaches, like you said, we're staying with this guy. Yeah. Instead of going down to Louisiana. But I think it was before it was announced

who the head coach was. Players didn't know who the coach was gonna be. They were in the weight room. And the strength coach talks about, it's always gonna be about this, it's gonna be about this. And now your new head coach of the Notre Dame team, and then when Marcus Freeman turns that corner,

I think the boys were both surprised and then immediately elated and then as they're jumping in the middle you see Marcus Freeman and the boys like show level respect like I get back to the front of this thing now Let's go ahead. It is not a lot of young guys were able to take on that big of a job. That's a huge job I mean you look at Dillingham over there there's no he's how old let's go to hammer down time I mean, you look at Dillingham over there in Arizona State. He's how old? Let's go to Hammer. Don, Don. Tone, how old is Dillingham?

I think he's like 32 or something. 32, 33, somewhere around there. So it's insane. And he's been coaching since high school. But we talked about it the last two weeks with Notre Dame and their social team. Just another absolute banger. Obviously they're going down to Miami.

So there's only one man you can use. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. The Mr. 305. There might be a pit bull appearance in here. We don't know what the way the Notre Dame social media team has created. They had Jeezy, then they had

this is the way I live. Little boys and little boys and little boys. Which we didn't expect from Notre Dame. No, no great song and then now they got Ricky Ross, okay I don't know what Penn State's social team is doing but uh, no, no name is undefeated It's only one Penn State can counter this with who's that? Levar's boy Hottest rapper on the planet. Oh, yeah ball. Yeah, I think you said Aaron Whoa, it's banger banger tweaking people are playing it Hell yeah. Ball? Yeah. I thought you were saying Aaron. Hit us in that corner. Me too.

Whoa. It's banger up. Banger. Tweaking. People are playing it nonstop. So I saw the inside the NBA crew was asked to finish the lyrics and they didn't know the lyrics but they all started doing the sound. Anytime you got the whole world doing it it's like congrats to LeAngelo.

Hell yeah. Great name too. Great name. Great name, Lee Angela in the entirety. Maybe Penn State will do that. Maybe you should get that AD on the phone. Yeah. And say, hey, listen, social media team, that's what we need.

That's what we need. Okay, because Notre Dame has been burying folks with their highlight videos. And did you see Riley Leonard's caption on one of his photos on Instagram? Ooh, I did not. What is it? Me either. It said, give me Notre Dame, okay?

So I think that is potentially give me Alabama, maybe. A lot of people would send it to me and said, hey, have you seen this from Riley Leonard? It's also, I think he has fallen in love with being a Notre Dame quarterback. The way he has talked about the place, the building, the history, like he is Picture perfect for Notre Dame without a big-time God fearing man as well

Yeah, I mean that certainly goes a long way. Hold on now. Yeah, let's go to hammer These semi-finals are about to be fucking awesome tone It feels like that the four right teams are here in that game to kick it off down the Orange Bowl Obviously, it's Miami so it's gonna be hot, so everybody's gonna be feeling good. But that's gonna be a smash-mouth football game, which is good for football, I think.

Good for college ball, Tone Diggs. I love the matchups for the semi-finals because it's kind of good on good for everyone in this situation. We start with the Orange Bowl down in Miami where Notre Dame is a one and a half point favorite against Penn State. And they are basically carbon copies of each other.

They run the ball and they play defense and they are physical and in the trenches they dominate. The one in this one will be, you know, can Drew Aller throw better than Ryan Leonard? Yes, he can, but can he do that against Notre Dame's passing defense, which I believe is like number two in the country. How many picks does Watts have? All of them? Six on the year he's a first team All-American he is absolutely dominant. Yeah he's gonna be

on that guy? Oh yeah that is gonna be a Sunday matchup Tyler Warren and Watts. I'm very very pumped to watch that and then in the other game down there in Dallas Texas. Yeah the Cotton Bowl Ohio state and Texas. That's like, this is the best defense at Ohio state. We'll see all season long. Sorry, Penn state, but Texas has got that man made upfront and a secondary that, you know, nobody, nobody, nobody out pizzas the hut, but nobody can also stop Jeremiah Smith. But the Texas could only hope to contain them, but this, these teams can both run they can both pass they both have

Incredible defenses so the matchup being down here with Ohio State minus five and a half minus six total of 53 I believe 53 and a half so they think it's gonna be a higher scoring game obviously than the Orange Bowl But the the matchups in this one are this weekend are awesome Yeah, just like last week Ohio State Oregon was like the national championship whoever wins this it does have the feeling that Texas Ohio State what I love Notre Dame too I love what they're doing they treated us like kings when we went up there earlier and they're in Indiana school with that being said it does feel like the two

classes of the college football playoff are you know the cotton yeah it's the Cotton Bowl and the Orange Bowl in the Cotton Bowl has the two teams that are extremely dominant and then the the Orange Bowl has the very gritty you know winning the trenches to you Johnny Texas almost lost Arizona State let's not forget that no no no over what are you saying Arizona State shite to cue? Is that you said no, I think what he's saying is like saying There's two classes at this stage. I think it's never I think we got the four right teams at this point of the season with How everybody's playing but I don't hey She went over named it Georgia. Exactly. Yes. I did not expect that. Did you expect that? This is even SEC SPN

Okay, this is and you were pulling for Notre Dame Yeah in that particular game. So I remember you doing that, but I didn't expect that out of Notre Dame team I thought it was gonna be the same old song and dance whenever we got to this stage of the season Notre Dame's not gonna be Able to keep up Kirby smarts can be able to do it. It's like they out athleticed Georgia and they out at out powered Georgia out physicaled Georgia. All the- Out executed. Everything you need was just like Notre Dame doubted. And in Penn State, they're spending just as much money as everybody else.

That is a story that's not being told. We're going. Everybody talks about, you know, Texas has what? Like three collectives is allegedly what it has. They have so many people giving money to the organization. They got all the money in the world down there. They able to afford whatever roster they want. Oregon obviously has Nike behind them

So they have we're gonna win we're gonna wear the sickest uniform sickest gear. Not only is it a massive commercial for us We're not the only ones wearing Nike a lot of people wearing Nike But this is where Nike found it so they're gonna be all in Ohio State has been talked about since the beginning Hey, they're going all in spending all of this money that they have and down the SEC I'm assuming there's some massive contracts being given out as well more places that we are mentioning But Penn State is always the team that is Michigan has Larry Ellison now behind him pushing his 208 billion Married to a Michigan lady. It's a lot of money. So now he's Michigan man He owns

One of the islands of Hawaii For the United States got that obviously Hawaii and a big part of it and Lenai He owns Lenai. Yeah, just I don't know if that's the island. It is. Yeah It's my wife and I's favorite place in Hawaii Actually now granted going over to Honolulu and all the other places fantastic and the people are amazing over there That is a big piece of it of why Hawaii But you get there and it just radiates this energy that like this is the greatest place to ever exist.

I mean, it is so good. Lanai is like one of the, I don't wanna say like a deserted, but it is like very, very small, not a lot of people. Yeah, he just bought it. Dumbly. He just bought it. He just bought it. Now he is contributing.

Senior Oracle? Yeah. What does Oracle do? What's that well I don't know you don't want to 208 billion cloud it's basically a database for like sales organization stuff like that and what they just have everybody like Mac fee antivirus had everybody yep Salesforce and Oracle pretty pretty much have everybody okay mm-hmm John McAfee all right let's uh let's move along we should ask him do you know where he is? No, nobody does that documentary of him getting on those boats with all those guns keeping him moving

I know too much. I know too much. They know that I know too much He's kept him moving but Penn State is a team that nobody money. They have the most CEOs out of any University in the entire country. So's a lot. Penn State? Yeah, Penn State. Most CEOs in the country. So CEOs get paid a lot of money at a lot of places. Yeah. So if you're getting a million, like obviously Oracle 208 billion can drop.

Phil Knight billions can drop a lot of money. Hey, you need a hundred million, whatever. But whatever you have, like thousands of millionaires that can give a million, five hundred thousand. It's like they're collecting cash. They're doing a $700 million stadium renovation that started there. And that's nowhere near the amount of money that they're okay to approve towards a roster.

They're willing to outbid, I think anybody, whenever it comes to money to put this football team together. It's not just that, basketball, volleyball, all their sports, all their alumni. And we've talked about Penn State being a cult, and that's a compliment. There's a lot of cults in college. That is the reason why college sports are the way they are. But that Penn State cult is very large, very desperate, I think, to win.

And they like, hey, I got cash. You hear somebody who wants Penn State, they probably got money, is probably the way it's gonna be. And they're taking advantage of that. That's not talked about whenever it comes to Penn State football. You know who else they got? Who's that? The Pagulas. Who are the else they got? Who's that? The Pagulas. Who are the Pagulas? The Bills owners?

Buffalo Bills owner. Every place on that. And a Buffalo Sabres. What? And the Sabres. They know that. Oh yeah, every place on Penn State's campus is named after the Pagulas. Let's go to the Ohio State campus that has one name all over it as well.

And there's also one tree that is on that campus and is held by a man who is a national champion for the Ohio State University Buckeyes, he's a Super Bowl champion for the Green Bay Packers ladies and gentlemen, AJ AJ which broke down both these games. Obviously we're gonna be on the field for both of them Let's talk about that Ohio State, Texas team. I saw our game. I saw Bobby Carpenter on get up this morning Yeah, it was good to see the general back on TV chit chat. He is still bringing it. Five big booms out of General Carpenter every day, every single day. What are your thoughts on that game? How do the Ohio State people feel about this Ohio State team going in and take on a very, very good Texas Longhorns squad?

I mean, I feel like Ohio State people are definitely optimistic. I think they respect Texas though. Like people here understand that Texas is legit, Sark is legit and this team has a ton of talent. Obviously they're very aware of Quinn Uers and all the magical things that dude can do with his arm. So yeah, I think they're optimistic, but they also want to continue to get out to these fast starts.

I mean, that changes the game. Ohio State just, they've been, these last two games, they've been jumping out to an early lead and that kind of changes the game plan for the opposing team when you get out to such a fast start and all of a sudden the team's already playing catch up against you. That's first play right there at a tight end lineup at running back. They have two running backs that are stop that guy. And, uh, you just have to hope to contain him. Texas obviously has talent all across the board. That's a triple team. I don't know what else you can do. You know, there isn't a better coverage that you can draw up or call. There's another one. There's three guys around the ball.

I mean, it's what Will Howard's been dialing up, and what Chip Kelly's been dialing up, and the way they've been executing. There's a reason why they are the odds-on favorite to win the national championship. Can they continue to do that as they have to travel to Texas to take on Texas in the semi-finals then that other game Notre Dame Penn State we're just chit-chat and obviously everybody talks about how much money Ohio State's spent on the roster I think that was a rude narrative to start at the beginning and I think a lot of teams were thankful

that Ohio State's getting that yeah yeah yeah Ohio State's spending 20 million bucks yeah yeah that's what they're also did it they did that to retain a lot of Ohio State's getting that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Ohio State's spending 20 million bucks. Yeah. That's what they're- They also did that to retain a lot of their roster as well. A lot of their guys on defense came back for another year and that was part of it as well. It wasn't just getting guys from other places.

Yes, I agree completely, but I'm saying what, and I was even contributing to it because I heard a number and I'm like, damn, they're spending $20 million. And now that we've traveled the country a little bit and we've understand the current landscape of college football It's like a lot of other teams like yeah, I can't believe Ohio State's been in there Just keep talking about that. Yeah, yeah, they're like only 20. Hey, they're spending only 20 over there

That means that is because these teams that are left They have all been invested into their not just their football team But sports as a whole and all these fans let all these teams left have massive fan bases that are gonna want to support Penn State Notre Dame, how do you think that one turns out? We've been talking about it being a heavyweight fight Obviously both very physical Watts versus Tyler Warren right there in the front of the graphic is gonna be fun to watch how you know Cotto Nicky decides to get him involved in the game and how much does Kado Nikki decide to you know? It's a big stage. Let's drop some cool-looking plays. Exactly. Let's do some really fun things here. Let's not

What are you talking about? Let's run the football Well, we got tricky. Yeah, what do you talk about? We need to move over the trick stuff run the football The trick stuff is good though because future Opponents have to study for it. How many more future opponents we have? Exactly. We got enough trick stuff on tape. Let's play football. Okay. All right. That is how AQ feels about Connor Mickey the offensive coordinator for the Penn State Nittany Lions but I think the way we see this is gonna be a You know a fight a fight in a phone booth the way and that's who's gonna win this game is who can withstand the blows that are gonna be thrown

and who can give out more of them just like it was a heavyweight fight. That guy's unguardable as well. How do you see this game going down in Miami on Thursday? Well, first I wanted to ask AQ, obviously an insider to the Penn State program, is Abdul Carter gonna be rolling? Is he good to go?

How does he feel, AQ? Yeah, I think he's banged up, but I think he's going to give it a go. I think this is a major moment, a massive moment in his career and for the program. And I think he gives it a go and he is going to be humming off the edge. You know what I like that hasn't been talked about a lot this year that was talked about in years past. And I think it's

because a lot of NIL money and incentives are based around payments after bowl games. You haven't heard a lot of guys just sitting and incentives are based around payments after bowl games. You haven't heard a lot of guys just sitting out games, you know, cause they're like, ah, my draft's up. I'm not saying college football, playoff games, anybody would do that. Or would they? But, we'll see.

At some point, at some point someone will, yeah. See, I don't think so. With the way these contracts are being kind of set up, I think the bowl games have been added into the contracts. So I think the NIL thing has actually helped bowl games, bowl participation, and kind of put to bed a little bit some of the negative drama that was around players opting out for future earnings or whatever it was. Feels like that wasn't a big storyline this year, right? Agree. Wasn't a big storyline. I don't think

anybody really talked about it. And then Burke Magnus president content for ESPN put out a tweet that was like all bowl season was up Everything was up people talk about there being too many college bowl games. Yada. Yada. Yada. Everything ratings was up 1839 or whatever up in viewing everything in this college bowl season And I think this year there was less convo about that because the 12-team playoff maybe took a lot of distraction I think a lot more people enjoyed those other bowl games just kind of like oh we know what this is now as opposed to the ones that because I think they were trying to make all these bowl games act like they were important like they were trying to make them all feel good hey welcome to the Toto toilet bowl this is a fucking

meaningful thing. Like that is what people tried to do. And we do, what's that? The names, like the names of the agents. That's the tough stuff. The Buff Bowl. Yeah, and a Porta John. The games this year were great too.

That's what I'm saying. Like I think this year there was less of the argument of whether or not bowl games matter because the 12 team playoffs were the thing that, like these games are a bonus game for these teams this is how they're gonna propel into next season I think it was just a lot more proper perspective on what bowl season was this year as opposed to years past and I think there's a lot more participation from guys than years past because of the way the NIO incentives

are set up so I would like to thank college football for having a phenomenal postseason thus far and obviously there's some blowouts and games But I've enjoyed those as well because those are all helping build to the precedent That's being set for future 12 team playoffs and how we need to go I I've I've really loved this college football season from beginning to end all the way back in Dublin through now It's like I've really enjoyed this college ball season when there was a lot of calls for doom and gloom, a lot of five big dooms coming towards college ball. But instead it's been a complete opposite. Yeah.

I, we always worried, I think when we were talking about, Oh, what are the unintended consequences or whatever from this NIO situation, all the money coming in, we were just worried about like the play on the field. Like is the play going to suffer? And no, I think the play has gotten better on the field. Like we're, we're seeing top tier matchups. It seems like week in week out. Yeah.

Some guys are transferring and whatever. Sometimes it's pretty cool to see a guy who all of a sudden he gets to a second or third team and he's a superstar. He just need to be in the right system. Cam Ward, obviously coming into prominence. Not that he wasn't over there. Watch the state, but over there he came into promise. Will Howard coming out of Kansas.

I mean, that is he's been put onto a massive stage and has shown up. How is he? I don't I don't see a lot of interviews with him. Feels like he's got great swag. Does he do a lot of local talking and what how does he sound going into the biggest game of his life coming up? Anything I the only things I've seen from him and I don't see him out there doing a ton of stuff.

He seems pretty dialed in is anything I hear from really any of the high estate players that don't want to watch like local stuff. They're all talking about like, Hey, we got two games left. Like this is we haven't done anything. That's like, that's kind of been their, their MO I think recently. Yeah, they're, they're excited. They, they celebrated the wins for a little bit, but I think they all know. Like none of this, like this cool stuff we have done these first two games,

how we kind of switch this narrative after a terrible loss to Michigan it all means nothing if we go out there and we drop one of these games that's just like Oregon undefeated big 10 champs losing a rose bowl it's over yeah that's it the finality of it is right there this team's never going to be together again you're gonna have to find new pieces and you're going right back to the bottom of the mountain again next year obviously hang the Big Ten Championship banner first year over there congratulations you earned it you had a great season you had to beat a lot of people in a lot of big moments to do that but it's like once it's over the only thing you remember is your last game

and that's kind of a shame yeah that is kind of a shame with how it works but that's just the reality of the business and the business is good right now for college football for massive fan bases I think the ratings are gonna be through the roof today's Wednesday, isn't it? I never I said that's on Thursday Tomorrow that is tomorrow. That's awesome, man. It's great. So Paul here will be live tomorrow From the college game day set this particular show and then I believe there's a college game day From 6 to 7 30 and then I believe the game starts immediately after that down that the Orange Bowl will be on ESPN to with our field pass if you want to enjoy the game with us We will certainly be trying to do that and then obviously

Who's calling that is that McDonough and McElroy? I would assume so but I have no idea No, I would assume that I don't think Herbie and Fowler are gonna call both of them No, they're calling the Cotton Bowl Exactly, so yeah, so it'd be McDonough and because they called the Georgia and Notre Dame game so they'll be on ESPN We'll be on ESPN too. I believe we'll be having a couple people stop by for conversations. Nice Hey, I believe there's a chance the athletic director for Penn State hops on a microphone. Okay. Oh, yeah, mr

Gill is gonna be there. So I did reach out I do not think so What? That's surprising. I think show in San Antonio. I figure that I think there is I think the day of Game. Oh, did he guess wrong? Yeah, I think there was a I think I'm not harmstead short But I do believe there is a little bit of a conflict you Get into Thursday Friday that gets into people's show schedules. Yeah, you know what I mean Wednesday You're in a good spot good. Everybody's kind of free on a Wednesday Monday even people Normally kind of have free Thursday Friday is a little bit of a difficult thing

But maybe Shane makes it happen for the last I heard though that he was not gonna be in attendance But we assume there will be many people down there that we will run into and if we get a chance to chat with anybody that's pulling for Notre Dame or Penn State that'll be an honor then we'll fly over to Dallas hopefully hopefully any weather update they're brining they're brining the streets I hear so we should be good they're doing what what's that mean they said they're brining the streets I don't know I guess it's some kind of some kind of chemicals to hopefully have the eye maybe if it does if ice comes it doesn't

come as fast I don't know you know what I would like to let it the world know that if they are using some new shit that they created in a lab to stop ice from taking over streets I'm bout it I think we as a society should have figured this out already they did it around here It's just salt water Basically Brian is like what you use for like chickens and turkeys when you're cooking and make more flavorful in the crusty skin before this Finally something good coming from lives. Okay. No, that's what I'm saying. Can we get that's what I'm saying That isn't what happened though. I think they just put salt water Yeah, yeah, it's been a long time ocean the ocean actually started this entire thing. So Brian is a scoop of ocean water.

Put it in there and said we fucking figured it out. That's what they're saying. Yeah. Okay, great. So I didn't know that until obviously this. There we go. It would have been before. How long does that last to where like if the let's say 24 hours from now it's still there. Don't you think there should be some spray that we've already created? Yes. Should there not be some spray that we've already created? And I'm bummed out that it took me this long

to think about growing up in all cold climates. And you just get that salt out, here we go, go put the salt out there, make sure you do it. And you put it out there like, this is not gonna do shit. If it really comes, it's gonna beat this. Maybe if it is a very very very light snow light situation you'll see the little hole where salt dehydrates and removes the water so it isn't able to work but other than that you you just got a bunch of

salt on your shit and there's snow and ice on top of it and when you're shoveling it you're actually trying to pick the frozen ass salt off of the cement. I mean, every year we do it. We do it every year. Since what? The beginning of time, we think that that's gonna work.

It ain't! Remember the flash freeze last year? That didn't work at all. No, literally sprayed, dropped it down to negative 10, and then just mother nature sprayed water Over the entire Midwest it was just a flash freeze over everything They're like don't move if you have the capability of not moving you should do that you walk outside

It's a nice drink you take your car outside You know they say like black ice the ice it just kind of blends in with the cement You can't see whole every road is like that's basically what they've said How have we not? Created something that is able to stop that from happening. I'm legitimately we got to heat the roads We got to lay the piping and run that liquid through there and heat the roads. There's unfortunately there's millions of miles Yeah, I'm sure that we'll be able to figure that out from a budget situation Got a lot of money going to a lot of places. I haven't heard one person say, you know what, let's make a better road system in America.

Infrastructure too, like that wouldn't take any time or anything. You just dig up every road and highway in the United States and put some hot piping underneath. And all the companies that would get those contracts, they're very efficient and good. And they want to get it done quickly and right. Exactly. They don't want to get it wrong. So then they get get hired again And they also don't want to take forever so they get paid for longer We haven't rewarded a poor system for the beginning since the beginning of time this entire thing Yeah, that's not what they want. They want to get it done quick and a hundred percent right so you never have to fix it again Exactly, this is a good idea. Yeah, I mean we've created enough stuff in labs I mean you would think that they'd be able to figure this out. It's like what you told me

There's a lot of stuff creating labs, right medicine Go into the lab. Yeah. Yeah great jumpers. Yeah, jumpers are created in the lab make beats in the lab Yeah, sometimes things get leaked and they say they came from soup or something. Yeah, like like new music say they came from soup or something. Yeah, like new music. Ba-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Batman. You remember when that was the topic of conversation? That was awesome.

We had COVID-18 on the show one time. We did. It was a bat. Younger brother. Did you know that? I didn't. All right. That was worth a watch.

One of the best ones. That one's worth a watch. Just like, I think, yesterday's Hulks to press conference, worth a rewatch. So good. It is. It is. So good.

It holds up. Certainly. It holds up. It certainly does. Speaking of holding up, let's talk about super wild card weekend. Obviously a lot of conversation this week is about people getting fired and who's going to end up where.

Pete Carroll may be back in the NFL with the Chicago Bears. Okay. Hey. How about the Rooney rule up there in New England? What are we doing? We making a mockery out of this entire thing or what's the deal? Mike Vrabel heading up there, we think the New York Jets,

Brick Johnson's not making any decisions, okay? We got other people to do that. Cannonball and the 33rd team, they're interviewing everybody. New Orleans Saints obviously have to figure it out. The Las Vegas Raiders have to get it figured out. That's kind of been the topic of discussion around the NFL this particular week aside from like Tyree kill saying give me the hell out Of Miami and some of the other stuff. Let's talk about what's happening this weekend massive weekend Saturday Chargers Texans Pittsburgh Steelers Baltimore Ravens

Absolute clashes of Titans there to kick off super wild card weekend and then you got Broncos, Bills, Packers, Eagles. Is Jalen Hurts going to practice today? What's Jalen Hurts' brain looking like right now? We get an answer. Everybody's got eyes on whether or not the Eagles will have their starting quarterback or not taking on a Green Bay Packers team that hasn't been playing fantastic but is young and certainly capable of winning against anybody. Then commanders, Buccaneers are the nightcap there. Baker Mayfield in primeetime. That's gonna be a blast now Monday night Super wild card weekend wraps up in Los Angeles, which right now. Oh Yeah, tease and piece everybody over there. Oh, yeah scary shit. Hey, I saw some

Horror film like Videos coming out of people trapped with no no way to stop anything Hunter mountain our winds are saying to spray in these fires all over Southern, California. How'd they start? Do we know how they started? I sure something will come out about a spark happening somewhere and then all of a sudden one thing leads to another they haven't had enough rain Maybe dryness that's kind of seemingly the answer all the time. Everybody's just like okay because we don't know enough about it. I didn't grow up in fire areas. Canada has a lot of big-time fires every single year feels like and then there's fire season in California as well. Used to be Northern California I think and then now it's dropped into Southern California

over the last couple years. The Sunset Boulevard yesterday just cars were just abandoned like hundreds of cars were just abandoned because the fires were getting so crazy and people were Sprinting trying to run away from it down the middle of Southern California And then I think there's videos of people in these houses in the hills With fires completely around them and not able to exit and it's like what the hell are these people gonna do? Aaron was supposed to come on today. He has no power. He's in the middle of it He said he has friends and neighbors that have lost everything from these fires gone

Just in a matter of one day worth of fires taking place about a nowhere So obviously positive thoughts and prayers to all of Southern California right now as you guys are battling through these crazy I mean these are this is horror film type stuff coming out with these fires very small problem in relation to all that But you would think that might actually affect the game like they might have to move it because that's not a complete dome. So if the air quality in LA is not good, that's getting in to SoFi because it's not completely covered. So you would think they might actually consider. And the way we learn about the air quality index is because Canadian fires have so much smog, they were coming down to Indianapolis and into Ohio was taking over. I couldn't even imagine if it was in the ballpark or the neighborhood of the stadium certainly gonna have to keep Eyes on that but also positive tees and peas everybody over there

I couldn't even fathom having to make a lot of decisions that you're having to make. Yeah, what do you save? What are we keeping? What are we grabbing? What are you taking for real? What do you take with you if you are able to get out and it's all having to happen like this because it's coming 100 mile an hour winds gusting these things so they're just like really far away and then But because all you need is just what one little spark or two to get spread in another place and then just kind of builds it's like worst case scenario happening over there and then I saw I reposted a post last night they're asking for like firefighters volunteer to volunteer not professional firefighters and volunteer firefighters

to basically volunteer their time to come over there because they don't have enough firefighters right now to Kind of combat everything that's taking place. It's like I I had uncle I family that is that our firefighters It's like absolute badass have to have a certain mentality obviously to sprint towards problems every time you work you are going into a nightmare situation and trying to You know make the most of it and put it out and fight and wrangle everything that's taking place So I have nothing but respect for firefighters, but over there. They're saying hey, we are out We are out

Flanked by these are we don't have enough for it So I think they're asking for help over there and then obviously everything gets political at the end of the day and obviously that's gonna continue to there and then obviously everything gets political at the end of the day and obviously that's gonna continue to burn through these conversations but we hope you're okay over there hey we're pulling for you scary I got two former teammates that are volunteer firefighters in Boise and northern Cal so I I need to reach out they probably going over there yeah I think this is like all hands on deck type situation taking place, you know, it is a crazy smoke jumpers.

Just now that I have a daughter, you know, you think about that. We were just there too. Yeah, that's what's crazy. Like just there. And it was the Pasadena Fire Chief who was the one who said like, this is the worst case scenario. Like we're in it right now.

I did see that President Biden had to cancel his event out there because of the fires and everything like that so we almost weren't able to take off because it was shut down for his arrival and it's like that's how close Gumpy and I were to being I mean so lucky that we are legit in nothing but Ts and Ps but anyways Vikings Rams wraps up super wild card weekend I mean, we've got some great games AJ. Which game are you looking forward to most and why pal? Man, I mean, so I played for the Packers for nine years. So I definitely pay attention to what they do I am curious about that Packers Eagles games game. Obviously, I want to see Jalen Hurts. How was this guy doing?

I heard he's supposed to be available for practice today, right? Isn't that the news? Yeah, I don't know. Yes. I read something that he's available for, I think he's going to be available for practice. So whenever that, whatever time, here we go. Yeah, I read that. 210 is Eagles practice.

Yeah, that's a timeline here that was tweeted out. I did not read what you said about him being available. I've not heard any of that. I've only heard, still in protocol, you saw, okay, that's great news for I think NFL fans as a whole you know they're seeing starting quarterback for a team that's in playoffs especially the Philadelphia Eagles it's great for Eagles fans it's great for Nick Sirianni definitely okay it is great for Nick Sirianni that he'll be playing in there so you pay attention to Packers because

you were there I think they're also a fun team to watch you know very young very very young team are they a year or two away I think a lot of people just assume that but you can make a massive win on wild card weekend if you're able to go to Philadelphia yeah, I mean last year they were the seventh seed and you know that was like the Cowboys going in were very hot their Offense look great, and they absolutely dismantled them in Dallas, but it's one of those things I think they're kind of they're playing with house money with how young they are and everything and everyone maybe think you know Six weeks ago or five weeks ago everyone was kind of circling them saying, hey, the way this team plays, they could be a team that if they play their best, like they could beat anybody,

but they're so inconsistent that they could also lose to anybody. So we'll see, I think you're going in with house money and you know, that first game of the season when they played the Eagles in Brazil, I don't think you can take much from that because the playing surface was weird love got hurt Jalen hurts looked really bad and you know, the Eagles defense wasn't what it is now then so

We'll see. I mean, I don't know. I think I think that should be a very good game Christian loves hand Do we know sir? How's Jordan loves hand? Remember he lost feeling in last time? Yeah, I mean he said in the press or basically like a non-issue like I'm gonna be playing Christian Watson there, right? Taurus ACL. Yeah, okay. So there is that does suck tease and peas I think at this stage of an ACL tear with rehab surgery their same potentially missing beginning of Next season as well over there. Yeah, I mean, I don't I would assume that could be the last time we see him play as a packer We'll see. Okay. Yes, you're forward Yes, three or four, but

just, I don't, he's, you know, we'll see. I don't know. He gets hurt a lot. That's kind of the thing is he's not, he's not available. Well, Godspeed on the recovery. There's a couple games on Saturday I'm interested by. You talk about what happened last year with the Packers in the playoffs. Last year with the Texans in the playoffs. They had a massive win when nobody thought they were gonna be able to do that. They're too young, they're not able to kind of hang. Here's what CJ Stroud had to say about the naysayers saying that this particular team ain't going to be able to get it done in a playoffs even playing bad. Yeah, I mean, noise is always going to be there.

It's always part of sports, always evident in the sport. And they said the same thing about us last year, playing the Browns. And I'm not saying this last year, but we went out there and we did what we had to do to win. And that's ultimately what the playoffs come down to is like, it's 14 teams now and the microscope is on you. We're the first team to kick it off with the Chargers. And so everybody has their own pins which they're entitled to have those things.

So I really don't mind I mean it's part of it, you know guys Are smart right can see film and see that you know, whatever they want to see so And for us we know we have faith in what we can do and you know You know that we're motivated to play we I kind of like being another dog I've been on a dog a lot of my life and my career. So it's actually comfortable for me. So, but yeah, I don't really think too much. He looked a little bummed out at the beginning of that answer.

I didn't hear him talking a while. He looked a little bummed out at the beginning. And then he showed that incredible moxie that we've come to absolutely love about CJ Stroud. The Chargers are a team that I think a lot of people think is dangerous. They're a tough team. And we talked to Coach Hardball. He said they need one more game, more game that final game to get their maximum

Toughness level that they need to be at for the playoffs, you know And they beat the hell out of the Raiders and they continue to roll and they're obviously momentum and everything is very high Texans Lose Aziz al Shair right because of a altercation on the field he hasn't been playing for the last three weeks They haven't looked their best even though they get a massive win over the Titans last week of the season It's like if they were able to piece it together their team They've had some injuries but Nico back is a huge deal and then the Chargers their hot football team They are a hot football team a physical team. They have everything you need to win in the playoffs I'm excited about this one then Steelers Ravens AFC North match up there

Nine and a half point spread for Steelers Ravens and they know a lot about each other Mike Taumann took practice today from the practice facility down to the stadium I can't wait to see on Hard Knocks next Tuesday just like a great Hard Knocks episode last night congrats NFL Films continuing to crush it on the inside in the season AFC North there were some interesting situations as seasons came to an end for some teams with how they have to handle it behind the scenes, but it's like the Ravens Steelers seemingly always close. Steelers defense, Tomlin, pretty good handle on how to play against this Baltimore Ravens team.

You remember the record that Lamar had against the NFC was like 29 and 1 or something like that. I forget it was. And that's because those NFC teams only see him like once every five. They haven't had to face and feel Lamar Jackson. So I think you know Lamar tries to not make a big deal of it but if you look at it from a football standpoint it's because they haven't had to prepare or play against somebody like Lamar Jackson and all of a sudden you get on a field and it's like holy shit he's fast and I thought he was. Holy shit they're more physical than I thought they were gonna be. Holy shit he can throw the ball better than I thought he was gonna be able, they're more physical than I thought they were gonna be. Holy shit, he can throw the ball better

than I thought he was gonna be able to do. And then once halftime comes, you're trying to make adjustments and then you only got two quarters to try to catch up and boom, you inevitably lose that game. Pittsburgh Steelers have had to play Lamar Jackson since jump two times a year. Mike Taumann, defensive coach,

feels like he has a good grasp on it. Let's head over to Hammer. Dot, dot. Nine and a half's a lot of points, Tone, but it sounds like you guys have no hope in the Steelers team anyways. It is a ton of points, especially in this rivalry. To your point, I believe Lamar's three and five against the Steelers obviously got that

win the night that we called Ohio State and Tennessee. And that was a 17-17 game. Obviously Russ fumbles on the goal line going in and then throws a pick six to make it 24 17 That was basically all she wrote in that one But these teams have basically been trending in two different directions the Ravens are as hot as hot can be in the Steelers Not so much Are we yeah Not me not me not me living in living in my fears they have a 1a

playoff game since the 2017 AFC championship when they lost to the Patriots they've lost five straight hmm playoff games to say they need this one it's big but I said the other day like if the roles were reversed let's say the Ravens had lost for coming in and the Steelers were as hot as Ravens were and all that stuff I would not want to play the Ravens to all your points because these teams match up so well against each other. They play each other so much. Third time playing this season.

It's not the game that I would want in the first round and super wild card weekend. If you're the Ravens you're saying if the roles are reversed, you would not want this particular game. Yeah. Say flowers. It's good to be an underdog in the playoffs, I think. Yeah. Nine and a half. I think it's just- Nine and adog in the playoffs. I think yeah

I think it's just not half is a lot nine half is a lot But it that one win if you're an underdog and you go on the road and you win that first game like that can flip Everything for you. Yeah, you name it. I mean you can but think about the stories of last year that Houston team get a win was So surprising and I think it propelled into an off season going like, yeah, super bowl pick. This is the team. If the Steelers beat the Ravens, not saying that's going to happen.

I love the Ravens. Ravens are expensive for us. We've had to donate a hundred thousand dollars now to two different charities because a couple of the boys in our team are obviously absolute dogs. Did you know Mark Andrews has to check his blood, blood sugar level after he comes off field

every single time? Crazy. I saw that today. That was on hard knocks. I mean that's just an added thing into your life that you have to deal with and monitor every single day so adding that type 1 diabetes no joke. I was very lucky that we got a chance to donate to that and also learn more about that entire disease. Yeah. I don't want to yeah okay. I mean everybody's, we got a way to beat it, but it's a lot. We got to monitor that whole thing. Oh yeah. And then Kyle Van Noy having a career year right now at this stage of it all,

I loved the Baltimore Ravens, but if the Steelers win this one, now all of a sudden, Russell Wilson contract conversation takes place. What's next year look like? We got to hang on. We just want a playoff game. They lose this game. It's gonna be like, that didn't work. That's what Yanser's gonna be like. That didn work That's what you answer is gonna be like that didn't work. Tom was God go trade his ass Yeah, they're talking about trade him trade him out of here We need to rebuild this entire thing and it's it's a while cuz Gumpi and I are saying the same things these Steelers fans it's like You're in the playoffs like you should be pumped and Sears fans are like we're always in the playoffs

Yeah, they always do we always are in the playoffs. Yeah, they always do this. We always are in the playoffs. We're always good. We're always grasping, never grabbing, you see? We're always taking reservation, never holding reservation. We're always close, but we're never going to be there. And it's very obvious, right, Nick? Is that not how you Steelers fans feel? That is how a lot of people see it.

And it's interesting because you look back at the beginning of the year, I don't think anyone had them. I don't think anyone how you Steelers fans feel? That is how a lot of people see it. It's interesting because you look back the beginning of The year, I don't think anyone had them I don't think anyone projecting the Steelers to be in the playoffs this year, let alone 10 and 3 halfway through the season So expectations changed once they got rolling and then it became oh here we go again same old thing They're in this mode where they're trying to reload and retool and they've got a young offensive line They've got some guys on the defense that are getting older now, but the offense is younger and it's up and coming. They just need to find the quarterback to kind of bring everything together. Russ Fields looked like that guy really. Then they make the switch to Russ. He goes on a little bit of a run. And then these last four games have kind of just got everyone feeling the same old blues like they've had the past couple years. Yeah, and kind of the opposite. The other big spread is Bill's Broncos were like the Broncos, Sean Payton. They've played all the good teams pretty close, almost beat the Chiefs. And they feel hot.

And they feel like, yeah, they're kind of coming in, had to win to get in. It wasn't like they were screwing around. Dismantle the Chiefs. And granted, that was not the Chiefs. That was a, you know, second team for the most part across the board. But like that, if I'm the Bills, that's not really the team you'd want to play going into, you know second team for the most part across the board, but like that if I'm the Bills That's not really the team you'd want to play going into you know at home and granted They got like a bye week last week

You could say most of their players sat out as well against the Patriots But like that's a team with the Broncos that could easily sneak up on I don't I am now granted I guess we got to watch how it all turns out and who plays what and how everybody plays I Am a huge believer in being hot going into the playoffs. Even that last game, that last game, even if it means nothing. I am a huge boy and that's just me as somebody that has to talk about these things every single day. I I don't feel good about some teams and I feel great about some teams. That might not mean shit whenever they end up playing each other. But there's like some teams I feel very the broncos are one of them,

especially with what they just did to the Chiefs. And then you you wonder about the Chiefs It's like did the Chiefs are the Chiefs gonna be okay like you is 38 nothing or whatever the Chiefs gonna be okay It's like yeah, they're gonna be a okay But right now in a moment how you feel about teams is certainly a part of it as you try to project what the hell is gonna Happen Buffalo Bills have been a wagon all year. We assume they'll continue No, no, you assume Josh Allen will somehow get assume they'll continue. We assume Josh Allen will somehow get faster over the break. We assume their defense will be able to get healthier. I assume that all these teams that did it the way, Philadelphia Eagles I assume they're gonna play great. Even though they you know didn't go for the

record and everything like that some of their fans are very pissed off about that. Yeah understandably. Tell me something girl The hell we doing What would you have done to lose lose? I'm putting them out there me, too I'm I'm gonna put them in the first try and get a hundred in the first half and then shut it down, right? Yeah, just uh, just to see if he could get it Yeah You know just to see if he could get it cuz I think the offensive line warrant to I the o line coach more than anything in my opinion like

That that that speaks volumes like Jeff Stoutland He gets a ton of praise because of how good he's been for the last 10 years But like that's a pretty cool thing. Hey, I coached the offensive line that broke the rushing record So in a lot of his yards, I think he's breaking a lot of other teams franchise records in yards before contact Yeah, I think there is I think you'd be leading, third leading rusher, I think this year, with yards in the second half, right? And then also I think yards before contact, I think you'd be like top five or top six rusher in the league right now. So the offensive line is obviously doing a phenomenal job. I say that I would do it, that is also as somebody who would never be a head

coach of a team. And I understand where Sirianni had to make the decision where it's like, if we play Saquon, we got to play our offensive line, we got to play all our guys. If any of them get hurt and we lose, I'm going to get crucified. But you can't live in your fears. This is once again living in your fears. But the reality is sometimes your fears become reality nightmares Become today if Saquon or anybody got hurt it would be Sirianis the dumbest son of a bitch that has ever held a whistle

Had a visor on has ever been a head coach But with that being said, you break that record, think about the vibes right now. Think about the vibes right now for Philadelphia. You are on an all time high. Instead of, I wanted to do it, I didn't want to do it. It's just like, anything to keep vibes high, I think is what I would do.

D-Butch, I think you're saying, rest and not do it. Yeah, I mean, just running back, he's had what, over 300 carries this year. Like you get in a, what was their bye week? They had an early by week? I think so you kind of been humming along like you get an extra by week for your guys online like even not say Say Kwan made it out but let's say you lose Elaine Johnson one of those all pro tackles like I

Couldn't do it. You know, you got you got to rest your guys. It would be tough It would certainly be tough and we will continue this particular program on YouTube ESPN plus Disney plus try Have forgotten to say but it's a massive deal and then on tick-tock live, which I think is gonna continue Good news. We'll have our award season the trenches will be given out and the all everything DB team will be announced in before we get Off ESPN. I have a question from Shane Gillis to Connor UGA beat Texas twice. Why is Texas OSU the title game dipshit? I'm sorry

It's a hey look we've seen it in Ohio State right now is rolling in you know to Shane Gillis. Unfortunately, you know Notre Dame They're just not what they used to be. What Shane get him andem. And that's what he's saying, yeah, we ain't. We're brand new. They're better. We'll continue on the internet. We'll see you tomorrow live from Miami. Almost forgot about that. We are gonna be live in Miami.

Yeah, crazy. What's the deal, I heard it's not hot? 60. Perfect. It's 60, oh man. Oh my God. That's full shite. I'm screaming about 60. What are you talking about, full shite? 75 would be nice, 60's, you know, man. Oh my God. That's bullshite. Dreaming about 60. What are you talking about, bullshite?

75 would be nice. 60s, you know, whatever. We can go to fucking anywhere and get 60. Not here. Except for here. But you get it, it's Miami. It should be 75. No, this is like first day of spring.

It's 55 degrees. Everybody's got the tops off. Everybody's having a good time. That's what it's gonna feel like. It is going to feel like it's 90. Exactly. You need to get down to the 50s though at night, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

50s, maybe even high 40s. Like Arizona like it's 90. Exactly. You're going to get down to the 50s though at night, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 50s, maybe even high 40s. Like Arizona. That's not. See, I think I'm going down there full Cubano. That's honestly the best way, just a little bone up too. Yeah, I think so. I think I'm going Cubano down there for the Orange Bowl. And I think you got to.

Let me pay respects to the downer out here. Maybe I dress up like Pitbull. That's a great idea. Oh, yes. Yeah, ball yeah yeah yeah oh my god get one of those make it like super Hollywood darling I'm not a most did that yeah well he'd be attendance John Stamos people oh yeah yeah I don't think you ever lose that stadium anymore nice well why why yeah people's awesome man I saw him perform at a private like a charity event that dude Every song is a hit too with it

Oh, every song has like another huge star with him and there it's always a hit Yeah, I think that's one of those concerts. What were those the battles music battles? the verses the verses There were some of those where names were mentioned and you're like that catalog and can be able to keep up with that catalog and then the internet immediately goes you remember this you remember this you're reminded of how many bangers somebody has pitbull I think we all forget how many pitbulls got and then flow rider Paul I thought I

saw flow right of the other night at the raw premiere on Netflix. Oh, I was looking over I'm like, he's that fucking flow runner and I was about to go over and be like, hey Thank you for everything you did you brought some real heat into my life for a long time, but you're right pitbull I think there's a lot of songs that people has that once he plays it people be like, oh, I forgot about this And you gotta do this It's another guy like that who flies in. Ludacris. Luda.

Yeah, like when people mention that, oh, and then you start going through that catalog and the bangers he had, like, international bangers. Great actor too. It's because he's not Ludacris anymore. Yeah, he's Chris Bridges now. Well, he started as DJ. No, always Ludacris. Ludacris.

Yeah, I heard. He said that. He said, I'm not Ludacris anymore. I'm Chris Bridges. Really? I didn't knowiggs. I'm an actor. I didn't know that. There was a time there where I don't like that. I don't love it. Hey Luda. That's a good name. Come on Luda. I agree. It's a great name and he can do that, but we need to make sure Luda still exists. Okay, because Luda needs to come out every couple years and make a banger. There was a while there where Atlanta had. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So cool. On everything. Yeah. I mean, that was good times back there.

OutKast, I think, kind of kicked it off for the whole world. I know Atlanta people would probably tell me there's a lot more history before OutKast and everything like that. But I think they, Stankonian, just they were the ones that propelled it. And then all of a sudden, I thought I was from Atlanta for a while there.

I mean, me and little John T.I. we're fucking getting after. And then GZ comes in. It's like, oh my, I'm Atlanta. I think I'm from Atlanta. And then all of a sudden, you know, Miami starts cooking, you know It was high school Rick Ross came in every day. I mean that was just took over the 50 out of New York Get Richard Dutch Ryan, then he got this little white guy from Detroit coming in here and then the West Coast obviously always had It was like that was a fun time. Great time That was a fun time to kind of come come up through it all people never got his never got his

respect in that entire conversation no we're gonna give it to him he's still bringing it to is amazing that's AJ Hawk he's won a lot of awards, including Father of the Year and Dad of the Year. Nice, man! Congratulations, AJ. We're proud of you, buddy. That's something you should be incredibly proud of, alongside the College Football National Championship,

the Super Bowl Championship that you have. The talk's at table here, and they just win every day of life, at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt, especially with that... This empty can of ice cold real American beer yeah it was delicious I didn't know you put that down you're a real American with that thing huh well you gotta be I mean this is a light beer

brewed in the USA because you are drinking on real American got booed out of LA but if you drink the beer you'll say it's great and it is great it's pretty damn good. Nice. Hulkster's got one. Hulkster's got one. He did it. I'm proud of you. Aren't we all kind of proud of Ty? Absolutely. Only drink one. That's right. I'm not saying I wouldn't drink, you know, more, but I'm just saying I can stop at one. It's a Wednesday. Exactly. And it's 2 10 p.m. Now you thought about cracking that thing open 9 30 a.m.

I think that was a discussion. I thought we were all going to because we all had, you know, ice cold real American beers at our stations because D-Bone, you know, was on the road until 3 30 a.m. last night kind of driving around the entire Midwest trying to... Boozing? No, no, he wasn't boozing. He was driving for the booze. Exactly. I thought we were all doing it.

Will and behold, you know, cracking open a beer at 9 30 a.m. on a Wednesday isn't exactly what you want to be doing. I do think the response you thought you were gonna get from the group was gonna be different whatever you said So we drinking these right now I thought that was the plan and everybody just looked over. I think there was a lot of people looked at their phones real quick It's 930 time. Yeah, I mean it's a it's a single light beer It's basically like drinking a 12 ounce glass of water boy. That's What are we talking about here? I'm not saying, Hey, let's do a case race right now.

But that's what we thought it would turn into. Yeah, we thought it would turn into a little willpower. Because that is a real American beer. Yeah. And you certainly enjoyed it. I didn't know you made it disappear so quickly. I'm proud of you. Thank you.

Thank you. 2025. What a year. I'm growing up you. Thank you. Thank you 2025 what a year Throwing up that's an oz the mentalist type move right there truly. That was magical. Did you just stop that thing? Let's open up the water Pretty simple, you know now again after the show if there's a I don't know a couple loose cans hanging around I might find those but but no, yeah during the show We got a job to do and you won't you won't drink a drive Obviously somebody drive you home a couple real American beers, which everybody should do I saw I saw somebody just driving with bottle right in between their legs the other night. I'm like wow point 25 is

20 25 is going back old school. Yeah, nine-year NFL vet. There's J butlers D butch We are I'd say 10 minutes away. Cool. From you debuting your all everything DB team. Ken Wagon. Highly anticipated. Yes.

Highly regarded. Yes. High pressure selections were made by you. Do you feel good about the Final Five or are you trying to make a change maybe before we make this final five? Yeah, maybe a change. No, no, I feel great. I feel great about final five

I look there are plenty of great DB's littered around the National Football League But you know only only five can make it and I'm proud of these guys. They did the hard work I just had to watch state. All right. Well before we get to the off level we did the set to do the break Yeah, it's a war. It's easy. Yeah, you can't Look we added the break. Yeah, it's awards season. It looks great. You got a sense of cancer. Look, we added a Bill. Yep. We added a Bill McComas to the set. Look at that.

That's cool. Hey, Bill. Everybody wants to kind of come in and experience awards season. Bill's absolutely jocked by the way he's been working out at a bodybuilding gym here in town. That's right. Just everybody knows that.

I love that. It's nuts. He's gonna walk in here doing one of those peacock poses. Oh yeah. One of those things. He's like, what you guys been doing in the hawk house boys? Look at my back. I've been in 24 seven gym, which is where he is actually going to. He's got 4 a.m workouts with some of these dudes. Bill's an absolute unit, so that does not surprise. Hell of a mustache right now. Yeah. Great mustache. Strong. Yeah, this is his face. This is how his face should be we think going forward but his the pants that he used to wear I don't think he's gonna be able to wear much longer. He's getting he's getting massive. He's getting very very jocked

No, I skip a leg day. No car body you carbo loading as well with his bucket of slop. It's back bucket of slop Yeah, I saw that I saw that when I was there. He walked by me after he heated it up Yeah, I mean bill is all in yeah, this is bills life parts that come with that these body exactly Yeah, we have dove now, but that ain't gonna say from what's cooking inside of Bill's guts with what he's been eating So he's obviously getting a diet a nutrition plan from some of these bodybuilders I think so the bucket of slop that you're referring to is just like I need this many milligrams of this I need this many milligrams of this, I need this many milligrams of this, and he just finds whatever, chicken, fucking duck, well, geese probably.

Did you see over there the pigeon that was plucked up and then taken into the, did you see this? I did not. What do you mean? Did it make it in your algorithm? Oh yeah, I saw it. It's not being anything from any of the carts in New York City.

No way. The what? The cart, the bodega, is that what they're called? Oh, I love those places. Me too. I actually get stuff from here. Cause I, yeah. Absolutely. I get gyros all day, chicken.

Oh yeah. It's not what you just said. Hero gyro, whatever you want to call it. It's not what you just said. No. What do you call it? I call it a pigeon. Cause I think that's what it is.

I think that's what I, not all of's what I don't know all of them obviously. Halal stand. The who? Halal stand. H-A-L-A-L. Okay, so what are they giving out over there? Like chicken on rice with white sauce. Once again, it's not chicken. Well, yeah, in this case, it appears that it was not chicken.

How many halal stands are there in New York City you think? Thousands. Okay, so what I saw from that one, I shouldn't just assume is all of them. Well, I don't know. I mean, that seemed pretty natural for the guy, I will say. I don't know if he comes from another Hull All-Stand tree, where they kind of are taught

the ways of how to go about doing this. This guy walks right out of his little camper. Here, this one here. Give me that. Poor little fucker. Give me that. Good catch, by the way, had to have great speed. Pigeons are an incredibly intelligent species, obviously.

It's got to be fake. No, that's a daily catch, brother. He walks right in there now. Now, that might be his meal. I don't know if it's everybody else's meal, but he's walking right in that thing. Oh, dude. Yeah, so let's keep our eyes peeled, you know, whenever we're doing whatever we're doing. But that's sort of my algorithm.

I'm like, I don't want to see this. No. I want to go get a fucking pigeon and rice without knowing it. Yeah, that's fresh catch I mean, he's basically fishing off the coast of Florida when you're thinking about it and you're getting fish But in this case is chicken. Yeah I'm sure there's a reason why we yard bird and a city bird But there has to be some sort of conversation out there

Diseases who makes a rule what we can and can't eat well now heard well, that's a whole nother conversation there Because that fear factor show really opened my eyes to what people are eating out there I saw Joe Rogan didn't know he'd become the most powerful person Yeah in the world yeah one of them He's great host. I thought it was he had he had great. He was a great host in that particular show and It was he had he had great. He was a great host in that particular show and uh Whenever like this is a delicacy in country that I knew of and was like potentially gonna travel to it's like wow people eat Some weird shit out there. There's some weird stuff out there, but who they probably say shit the weeds very weird. No, what? There's nothing weird

In the u.s. Right? Okay. I mean the squirrel the thing you're talking about Like where are we in that north carolina? Yeah The squirrel, yeah. The thing you're talking about. Chucky eats a raccoon. The raccoon. Mm-hmm. Like, all types of shit. Where are we eating that? North Carolina. South, South. South. Yeah. Really?

Xavier LeGette actually brought some in. Oh, I saw that. It was like shredded. I didn't expect it to be shredded. It looked kinda good. Me either. Didn't look bad. I did not expect it to be shredded though.

I think that was, because it was like a blob, a ball. You kind of eat a blob here of raccoon. It's like, all right, let's go ahead and do it. And then his accent obviously makes it even better I think it comes with the sir You know when you're eating at a restaurant that type of thing kind of comes in there So I assume there's people that think some of our stuff is weird. I do wonder about the there it is

You want to talk about slop? Absolute shite That is absolute shite. That's smooth taste. RFK ain't letting that happen. That looks delicious. Who is that dude that used to travel around and do the food? Adam Zimmerman. Anthony Bourdain. Bourdain. Zimmerman did the weird shit though.

Yeah, he did the records. Yeah. No, no, no. That was Adam Richmond. Okay, shot to Adam Richmond, man vs food. Adam who? Zimmerman. Andrew Zimmerman. Oh, boneheaded guy, kind of rounded. Yeah, and he'd do like they eat the really weird shit everywhere. Yeah, he did a nice Really shined up bald ass. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah every time I saw me He also dressed kind of nice didn't he write Bourdain is the guy that I remember watching going and just trying whatever for yeah

He was in what a life. Yeah, what a life where they lived How about the places that don't eat pizza? What the fuck? What do they do? They don't eat it. There's places that don't even have it don't know about it I would assume these places that are eating like pig intestines It's cow intestines stuff have never heard of pizza because you can choose one or the other you're probably going This people eat everything I mean people eat Things that we have as pets in other parts of the world They might have a pizza pig

That's just a pizza You know Pig intestines that might just you know, it tastes like mats and tomatoes those chitlins Chitlins. Yeah, I've never eaten but how about Rocky Mountain oysters? You You remember those bulls testicles? Yeah, those are balls Never what's the weirdest shit you eat big balls? I don't know. I'm not the big I'm not the big yeah I'll do it guy whenever it comes to the food stuff like if I was on fear factor Water in food would have been the one that would have gotten everything else

I would have been able to get the water. I can't fuck with water is and what do you mean? I I don't I don't love being in water. I like looking at water. I don't love being in water. Never really have. You know, like, obviously learned how to swim and all that shit. I can swim.

But just what water can do to you so quickly? I just, I am not about it. I just, I- I love water. I love being underwater. This guy will fucking live in the water. I just stay. I'm saying. I just stay. So under water this guy will fucking live in the water. I just stay I'm saying I just stay So I stay on beach

He stays in water. Yeah, I'll go like jacket just to float We are looking at each other from about 50 yards away. He's in there. Yeah, Hawking Drinks, you know, it's a guy and I'm like, I'm not even going in let alone the ocean Like who knows what is in there Is there a lot of ocean like the locals down there you guys that live in South Florida still go beach and ocean Oh, yeah, for sure regular basis. Oh, I mean if you're down there, you don't go as much like growing up We didn't go as much but it's great to do like for the family nice day go there in the morning My daughter's love seeing like the sunset. So I mean sunrise so we'll go there early morning to see the sunrise. But getting out on a boat or yacht, it definitely depends on the vibe what's going on, but I jump out in the middle of the ocean. Okay, so you're on yacht. I do yacht too.

Good time. I think I've only one time done the yacht. Good time. Great time. Great time. I had take my shoes off as I got in there. I was like, wow, we're doing real nice shit out here in the middle of the water. Never thought about jumping off yacht though. Watched others. Wow, good for you. I love doing that. Hopefully you got a roof you can do like a back flip off the roof or something. Jackknife.

We had some people boozed up that didn't mean to do the flips that they were. Yeah, I did see an attempt at a gainer and that was just a back. Yeah. Back bump. That was just a back bump from high speed. You know, it was like, yeah, you crushed it.

Yeah. That hurts. And I'm just sitting right here. so I don't fuck with the water The food thing too. I don't think I really dabbled. I was trying to figure out in Japan. We ate something I assume it's like I don't like texture stuff I don't like weird mushy gooey weird things that you dog like uni what I wasn't sure in Japan I'm not eating dogs. No, I know but sometimes they they come out and they the translation gets lost And then the shape of the plates a dog I would

Put the meat what they say the animal it happened to me having my dad. Okay, it was your dad got a dog No, I thought I forget if it was dog or if it was it was something egregious I'll tell you that much. It might have been dog actually Japan There's a place that eats very differently than we do. And their language is so different. Like so different. Nowhere near our language. The countries in Asia, like even watching Squid Game, because Squid Game I think is Korean. Yeah. What'd you think of that?

Season two? Awesome. And if the third season wasn't coming out this year, I would have been much more pissed off about it. And it was only seven? Yes. That it was only seven episodes year, I would have been much more pissed off about it And it was only seven shows Yes That it was only seven episodes because I would have said that they kind of fucked everybody with with how the whole season went But since the next season is supposed to come out pretty soon here. I think it was great I appreciate them saying hey, we're gonna make a real show script movie thing not just games, you know for the first couple episodes Appreciate it. We did a little bit too much of that.

Let's get back to the fucking bread. I agree. Get back to it. 100% agree. They got all the awards for writing and movie and creating and everything like that. And I think they took that to heart and were like, we got to do that.

We got to really do that. And it was tough to get through that first. I'm going to be honest. It was tough to get through that first one. And then if you did, it got good. I think it got really good. Yeah, always. I think the second season are really good but I think they really tested a lot of people the first for no reason they need to do it agree you're

one of the guys yeah we talked about it how was three three episodes and I was about when's the next seven coming out yeah but now exactly now since when you finish the second season it's like okay the third season is going to be nuts because the way it starts, there's none of that bullshit. And then there will be an ending and you know, who knows how it will end. Squid Games, number two show on Netflix currently. Congratulations. Squid Games have a massive success. What's the one? Monday Night Raw. Billy!

Oh. I opened it up last night because the wife and I are watching Squid Game season 2. It opens up on the screen and then you just go down you know on home screens top shows. Monday Night Raw was there. I thought to myself that's fucking cool. That is a very cool thing to be a part of. I took like a small bit of pride being like man it's cool to be a part of that. Like it is very cool to be a part of that. And like a small bit of pride being like, man it's cool to be a part of that. Like it is very cool to be a part of that. And then Michael Cole and I chit-chatting yesterday just talking about how stupid it was to be a part of that. Like what an honor. Like what a huge,

huge deal for the business as a whole and for the WWE. And then I turned on Netflix and I'm like, good for fucking the WWE. They do it right. They're business business the people that work yeah and then this absolutely insane you know Michael Cole obviously goat when it comes to what he what his job is if he was to have to describe it to somebody and I think you know Joe Tessitore came in did Monday Night Raw from you know being a high level high level commentator analyst and you know highly educated and experienced he's done a much better job than a lot of other people that have come in there and try to do it because when you have to explain what the job is, it's like, yeah, you're calling action massive piece of it. See also, there's actually billions and dollars of stories that need to be told throughout the entirety of it all. Need it to happen. Need this to go like this. Need people to think this. Need to not see this. Need to mention this. Need to acknowledge this. Need to throw back to this from five years ago and know that it happened. Know why this is happening. It's like there's so much to it as opposed to just being a play-by-play which is

very difficult in its own right. Like I can't, it is a very difficult task. So Michael Cole been able to do it for 28 years. he's missed three shows, okay? Crazy. Dog, war reporter for CBS was in Bosnia, was the first person to talk to David Koresh whenever that entire thing was happening down there in Waco.

He was the first person first interview when he was working at CBS. And then he leaves that and goes into Monday Night Raw. This is him going into Bosnia or coming out of Bosnia. I think if I recall whenever he was into Bosnia or coming out of Bosnia, I think, if I recall, whenever he was,

the Bosnia war was over there. Then there was, yeah, cause I think he got held. Going in cause he's smiling. Yeah, cause they got held over there. They weren't allowed to leave. The Star Wars guy next to him? I don't think that's George Lucas. That's how he got his idea for the movies,

actually talking to Cole. Yeah, Michael Cole gave it to him. So when you talk about one of the most legendary lives of all time, Michael Cole is an absolute G. So it's an honor to get to work with him, first of all, but also the entire WWE and the fact that they put me on a truck. They put me on a truck. They put Michael Cole in a truck. And I just happened to get snuck on there. That's an honor. You walk up and see that it's like, man. up and see that it's like man this is the luckiest and dumbest life of all time and I do you know it's very corny to say it but it's like if I could go back and talk to a younger Pat and just be like hey it's all gonna work out dude like better than you could have ever imagined and then say that that's gonna take place and then this is gonna take place like it's like I'm so lucky to be a part of it all

and thankful. And with that being said, it's time to debut the two biggest awards that you can win in all of professional sport. We will start with the big guys all year we went in the trenches and we ranked the top five offensive lines off their performances From the weekend before and that was obviously smashing success in the trenches and we love doing it And it was nice to shine a light on the big fatso's that are moving bodies around so that their offense Can be efficient and successful and if you paid attention to that particular segment all year

You could kind of tell who was going to be around and who was going to be the team that could potentially Go and win a Super Bowl. Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's not just the top five offensive lines of the entire season It's going to be named also the best tackle best guard in best center of the 2024 2025 season will be named in this edition of the Trenchy. Our host is also the man that's on top of the trophy that will not be delivered. It'll be a, what were those things called that everybody was just giving away? NFT. NFT.

Everybody that wins a Trenchy will win an NFT of this particular trophy. Remember, you cannot share the NFT. You cannot screenshot the NFT because then everybody else will have it Yep, NFTs only work if you're the only one that has the picture and on on the internet That's gonna be tough to do but that's why this NFT is so damn special You can't just screenshot this one. No, this is one that's gonna get emailed or texted directly to you from your host and the man It's on top of that trophy, AQ Shipley!

Thank you! Looks like a damn Greek god on top of that trophy. Yeah, certainly. Eating a lot of Greek yogurt. I was lobbying to shrink that belly. I know you can edit a lot of things, but... What are you talking about? What?

That belly. Look at that thing. Make it bigger, man. That's a monster belly. It's the Trenchies. First we'll do a couple individual awards, although I know that offensive linemen do not like that. Okay? First, the best guard of the 2024-2025 season, the Trenchy goes to...

Trey Smith of the Kansas City Chiefs. Could have went to his brethren on the other side. Mr. Two, anybody moved out the tackle a little bit. Trey Smith is an absolute dog. Let's take a look at this. I pulled one clip just to show how ferocious he is. Look at this deuce. Boom! On Fred Warner, puts his ass on the ground. That's the best you are going to see. This dude plays the game the way you're supposed to a guard physical Can opener puts Fred Warner one of the best linebackers if not the best linebacker on the ground all the time This is the way he plays physical dog

Trace me the best guard in the NFL the trenchy award winner Wow We will send you an NFT of that particular trophy. You can't share with anybody, then it's not worth a fuck. Don't ever forget that. Trey, now let's go to the top center, which we know is very close to your heart. Who is the top center of the 2024, 2025 season?

The Trenchy goes to... Big congrats to Mr. Frank ragdoll the Detroit lion Lions already winning things Listen, I love this guy. I've loved this guy since he came out first round pick out of Arkansas But he also plays the game the way you're supposed to when you look at that left arm right there Why does he have that sleeve on his left arm? Cuz he tore his fucking pack Guy tore his pack came back a week later, continues to play.

Look at him reach this guy. Little combo block up that you don't see reach blocks like that in the NFL. And oh, by the way, his running back is just going to take it 70 yards for a touchdown right off his ass. Wow. Congratulations, Frank Ragnar. Wow. We'll send you an NFT. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Here should be first team Hall Pro Center hands down. OK. Congratulations, Frank Ragnar. Wow, we'll send you an NFT.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable year. Should be first team All-Pro Center, hands down. Okay. Not PFFs, All-Pro. Whoa. Oh, easy. What?

The actual All-Pro. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're giving out awards. What do you think is the positive? This is a celebration. This is a celebration. Sounds like Akechush doesn't think that the PFF people know what the fuck they're talking about when it comes to offensive line play. That's right, that's right. That's where I was going with that the PFF people know what the fuck they're talking about when it comes to offensive line play. That's right, that's right. That's where I was going with that.

You don't know what the job is. How do you know what my job is to do? That's right. That's the thing that you say? That's exactly where I was going. When D. Butts sent it to me yesterday, I was like, what the fuck is this? Listen, I think PFF does a lot of great things for the sport. I think they give a lot of analytics and stats and I think they help out a lot of people whenever it comes to being football fans but there are some jobs that are tough to predict and call what they are. Happens in the secondary a lot. Offensive line could be potentially difficult because you have no idea who's

supposed to get the win. I think they try to judge it off of things that they know are gonna be the fundamental sound, how do you go about doing what you do, but I think the players who potentially get rated pretty low on that and get that held against them in negotiations and potentially get, you know, not picked up on teams because of it. Say you have no fucking idea what my job is, right? Is that that's accurate. Very accurate. That's exactly what I was saying.

I mean, when those guys come up on Sunday Night Football and they like do their intro and it's like one hundred twenty seven, not one hundred twenty eight. And he's making 14 million a year. Yeah. Hey, Q's walks into a game. Okay. It's like his 10th year. And he's getting to start, you know, and he's got that headshot thing and right at the bottom, he goes not ranked out of 130. It's like this guy, you've made an enemy with this guy forever. That's what you're experiencing.

That's what we're experiencing right now. That's why the Trenchies mean so much to him. That's right. Cause he's watched every single snap. He wants to make sure the right guys are getting rewarded. Now, ladies and gentlemen, it's the highest paid position on the offensive line. Who was the top tackle? Doesn't have to be left. Just top tackle of the 2024-2025 NFL season. The trench he goes to Lane Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles. Wow! On the right side! Congrats Lane! Congrats Lane! Lane had an incredible year. He's and he's literally playing out of his mind for one of the best offensive lines in football. Let's watch how he just throws this three tech across three gaps.

Watch. Boom! Climbs on the linebacker and then you got Saquon downhill. 2,000 yard rusher, 20 yard gain. But it all starts with number 65. He always has his hand up. There were 70 yard runs, 70 yard runs, 70 yard runs, 65 yard runs. Everything that the Philadelphia Eagles had, it all starts with number 65 whether they're running counter away or zone two. Congratulations on the trench E lane. That's awesome. Put this NFT up on the refrigerator. Right, hell yeah. Print it out. They don't make a lot of these, you got to earn them. Congrats to Lane Johnson who you know the big topic of conversation around him is he's always off sides. Guy's jumping early. That's all they talk about.

Smartest lineman. Constant. You ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Amen. And I think that's a big part of the offensive line world if we've paid attention to in the trenches at all. That's all anybody talks about is his get off. Nobody talks about everything else,

like fundamentally sound, absolutely perfect. Freak show athletically. Dog buy-in to the team. Always there and his ability to get down and dirty, and not scared to do it. They do the goddamn tush-push, you know? There's a tackle that has to, he's not even in the main focal point,

still has to get down, do the whole song and fucking dance, because that's what our team does, and he does it willingly. What a great representative of Philadelphia, I think Eagles fans would say, and what a win of a trenchie by Lane Johnson. He's done a lot of things. Yeah, hell of a year.

Hell of a career. Super Bowl champion. It's been a hell of a year. You know Parker McCall? Yeah, I do. You know that song? He's had a hell of a year. He's grown his hair out a little bit.

You see that? Yeah, it looks good. Got some flow. Looks good. It does look good. Yeah, I wish I could grow hair. No, no, you got a good goatee. Yeah, you can grow hair.

You got a goatee. Looks good. It does look good. Yeah, cuz I could grow hair No, no, you got a good goatee. Yeah, you can grow hair. You gotta go t you can get one of them surgeries, you know hair jordan No too much work I don't think you do anything. It's nowhere. Oh boy. Do I wish I wish I had that I wish I had that little flow out the back of the trade get a toupee That would be so sick I just have a toupee now. I was having to pay to pay. We got to go out the sides. I can do that. I can do that. Boom. And then to pay on top.

Oh my God. Please. You know how many trenches you would want if you had a rug? How many? Oh, too many possible. How many NFTs would we send him if he did that? As many as he need. Countless. How about this? We know it's a big deal to you We will change The top of the trophy if you You put it if you put a rug up there, you know a little top little top a little cap on You know, we will change the top of that perfect. These These Trenchies are a big deal. Hell yeah. Huge.

Let's go to the top five offensive lines of the 2024-25 NFL season. The Trenchies go to... Number five, the Buffalo Bills. Wow. Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills. I went back through the whole season. What I tried to do is just find a play that embodies exactly who this team is and every team in this list.

And so why I picked this play, let's take a look at number 70, Alec Anderson. They go big offensive line personnel more than anybody else except for the Detroit Lions with Skip, right? And so whenever number 70 is in the game, they're running the ball. They're gonna run a fullback zone to the left fullback and number 70 Alec are gonna work together

We get the big stretch center does a nice job getting the cutoff boom and then You'll see mr. Cook. See ya Untouched untouched basically he's gone to the house. Why'd they fire me? Why'd the fire there you go? Hold on. How about this? Can we talk about a couple things? Also guy that I assume was up for best tackle of the year, Trenchy. This dude right here, look at the space that he's given up in between here. Just absolutely on an island. Then he's head up on the guy, right? So this is like strategy by him, right? That's what Dawkins is doing?

There's no doubt. Deion Dawkins is going to be an all-pro this year. Had an unbelievable season. He's incredible. Was up for it. Lane's just head and shoulders above everybody at this point. And Deon's smart and physical and that Buffalo Bills offensive line is top five, top five, top five on this year's Trenchies. Congratulations to the top five. Oh line. And Deon like egregiously is on the line of scrimmage. Like he's not sitting back like we were just talking about. Like he's one of those guys early in the year where he looked like he was fucking with the rest.

Like almost making a mockery. Yeah, making a mockery of it. Bingo. He was like head to head with the center. Everybody says you need a lot of space. How about this? I'll line up behind you and then I will get in. I'll be so athletic.

I'll be able to get around. And that Buffalo Bills offensive line has led to some magical things. Josh Allen up over 40 touchdowns yet again, MVP season I think a lot of people were thinking that offensive line if you lose all the weapons have to show up they did all year. They did few sacks allowed as well. Okay let's go to number four performing offensive line the Trenchy goes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Wow! The grass is Tampa Bay number four. Yeah if you'll notice all five of these teams are playoff teams and that is because you'll notice, all five of these teams are playoff teams,

and that is because this offensive line on every one of these teams makes this unit go. Let's take a look. We motioned the back into the backfield. Now we're gonna go jet motion away. Eye candy. Now we're gonna send the back on the right to the left, and then we're gonna pull the guard

and tackle the other way. Bredesen kick out. Tristan Worf's up on number 40. Tight end, great job. See you later, boys. job. See you later boys See you later. That's what we're talking about. What were they last year ranked and run rush offense They've been bottom five and rushing for each of the last seven or eight years and then magically this year new offensive coordinator new scheme Pretty much same group. Obviously they drafted the center in the first round, but literally went from bottom five to top five Bucky also. Great running

Bucky. He's a dog. He is. Really good. Bucky for the Buccaneers. And this is Rashad White right here. Great player for a long time down there at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Congrats to them. Top four offensive line in the NFL this past season and as the season continues. Let's go to the number three offensive line that Trenchi goes to. The Baltimore Raven. Wow! Congrats to the Raven. Love everything about that. Great year. It also helps that they got Derrick Henry. But listen, let's go to one of Coach Monkin's favorite calls of the year, Baldi's favorite play. The old triple trap double scoop. And here we go. Talking about Baldi from Late Night with Kelsey. They call it Late Night Kelsey.

Late Night with Baldi. Is Baldi on there? Baldi was on there. One of the first guests. In Philadelphia, legend. That's what I'm saying. I was pumped to see Baldi get a little rub like that. Oh yeah.

Baldi's breakdowns. And Lil Dicky. He loves the old triple trap double scoop. Charles Barkley. That's right. You get both doors. You didn't watch. I did.

I didn't watch it. Past my bedtime. I got too many kids. It's on ESPN Plus. You live on watch. I did. I didn't watch. It passed my bedtime. I got too many kids. No, it's on ESPN Plus. You live on the west coast. Oh, I can watch it on replay? Yeah, I think it would have been at 10 o'clock your time. It's past my bedtime.

Yeah, amen, me too. But really, it's worth a watch. And Baldy, shout out to him getting some love, you know, nationally for the first, I'm not saying first time, obviously people know him, but he deserves. Yeah. He loves offensive line play.

He does. Love watching his breakdown just like yours, but he loves him, but he deserves. He loves offensive line play. Love watching his breakdowns just like yours, but he loves this particular play, Q. He loves it. You get the old triple trap, double scoop, two guards influencing behind. You get the wham from Ricard, and then you get center, right tackle.

Get Andrews up on the old scoop as well. Get him up on the third level. Boom. See you later. Untouched. Untouched. There's bodies everywhere. That's an 87 yard touchdown run ladies and gents. First play of the game. I mean it's going to be hard.

It's going to be hard not to like, I can't put arrows on everybody because I think these two are going this way. They're going this way. He's coming this way. And then they're going that way. That's right. Holy hell. How much coordination does that take? That takes a lot of choreography almost to make sure everybody's on the same page. How do you not trip all over each other? This literally has become the play of the year. Everybody has copied this play and everybody loves it.

It used to be just a regular wham. It was basically zone. Two people basically right guard, right tackle would avoid the three tech and then you get the wham. And now we get all this influence stuff. Look what it does to the three tech. Look what it does to all this influence stuff look what it does to the three tech look what it does to the backside nose look what it does to every look what it does to the linebackers nobody knows where the fuck the ball's going and then boom we just

hit Derek Henry the best back of this era right downhill in the b-gap for 87 I like to shave that because a quince having such a big year he had to drop in it of this era that's a good TV stuff out of you. Congrats to the Ravens top three offensive line of the 24-25 NFL season. The number two offensive line winning at Trenchy is the Detroit Lions. Congratulations. What a big win. Huge. What a big win for the Detroit Lions. Frank Ragnall leading the team. Best center of the year the Trenchy award winner Frank Ragnow. Let's go to the Lions doing what they do. Yeah, again, I tried to show something that embodies this group and what is the biggest thing we talk about all year, obviously the offensive line, but Ben Johnson, fourth and

one against the Buccaneers early in the year. We line up and they all were in different spots. They literally reversed the triangle. This guy goes there, this guy goes to the backfield, this guy goes there. And on fourth and one, in a big moment, when you hit a first down, guess what you do? You run the old triple option sweep to the left. Ben Johnson disguising people, getting them out of the huddle early and often,

switching people right before the snap, and then you get boom, you get St. Brown in the backfield as a decoy going this way, and then you get boom you get st Brown in the backfield as a decoy going this way and then you get Gibbs going around Did that end up being a 22 person? No right there. So that is Brock right and Laporta There's 20 and then it's 21 person. Oh, is there another back cuz that's a receiver So he counts his receiver there, right? He's up on the line. Correct. Got it. So running power in there. That's it Yeah, wing t-type shit wing t-type stuff yeah dude that's awesome pretty cool stuff about the Detroit Lions yeah hey Q I love that you played showed that play because you

cannot run this offense without that offensive line the amount of times I've come to you on a Wednesday I said the reason this team goes the reason golf is good Gibbs is good and the receivers get open is because he has so much time it's the old line okay let's go to the number one team offensive line. Yes through the first 12 weeks. It would have been the Detroit Lions I think over the last five this group overtook him. You got the Philadelphia Eagles as the number one offensive line of Rushing record, but you do have a trenchy Exactly has been a number one offensive line in the NFL this season and they've been fun to watch obviously

They got the number one tackle the trenchy award winner in Lane Johnson. That's right, but their running back is also unstoppable Unstoppable why is that? Well, he in this offensive line are on the same page all the time That's right And I also again another reason why I picked this play going into the season Jason Kelsey gone Can they be the same offensive line unit cam Juergens made the Pro Bowl ladies and gentlemen Not sure if you guys know that cam Juergens made the Pro Bowl at Center So they just picked up right where they left off and I think we all remember this play

Dip and scoop on the nose boom throw his ass up the club. Look at him. Talk your shit Keep it moving and then guess what's gonna happen. We're gonna walk a little bit We got nothing to do. We got nothing to do, and then we turn around. Oh shit, this is about to go for a touchdown. Oh, let's put him on the ground again. Boo! Jeez. Twice?

Is that two pancakes there? It counts as two knockdowns? Oh yeah. Double stack. That is. Couple flapjacks, this is D-Bone special, you want Dr. Pepper on top of that? Yeah. Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles, winning the Trenchy for the best offensive line

in the entire NFL. Here's your top five, ladies and gentlemen, from the Trenchys of 2024, 2025. Eight times in the top five, the Philadelphia Eagles. Nine times the Detroit Lions. And once again, AQ shed. Controversy. First 12 weeks would have been able to make it.

Eight times for the Baltimore Ravens and obviously a little bit of a drop off five times or four times for number four and number five. Foxy gave a little look see there after the numbers were revealed here on how many times they're in top five and so what do we do? Yeah AQ I don't love what you did here it was definitely the Detroit Lions all season long but you know what playoffs NFC Championship Lions Eagles we're gonna find out how that's gonna go down. Well Foxy I don't know if you should be questioning anything because it's not you that's on top of this particular trench.

It's that man. Big go. Right there. Hell yeah. Love everything he's doing here. So wait, all five teams get a trench? Yeah, an NFT. Just the number one team gets a Trenchy.

What is this? You know, a handout award or? No, just top five. Top five. They get a, they get a, they each get, or just number one. Well, the number one team gets this one. This is what the, the number one team actually gets this one. Oh, wow.

So it is a little bit, it is a little bit different. This is, this is what the number one offensive line will be getting. And congrats also to the Frank Ragnow, Trey Smith, and Lane Johnson, because you were number ones. You will get this particular recipe, KG by the way, K to the G. You'll get this particular NFT. Two through five will get the bald Trenchy.

Okay, you get this one. Two through five will get this particular NFT two through five will get the bald Trenchy okay get this one two through five will get this particular NFT Trenchy the number ones will get this particular NFT Trenchy so there is a difference it's not everybody getting awards and as we wrap up the Trenchies here let's go to our correspondent in Ohio AJ Hawk what do you think about the Trenchies who got screwed in the entire thing and did he get it right with the Trenchies this year? Yeah, I think AQ did get it right. I mean, I would say AQ and Baldi are the two people you go to if you want to know about O-line play, right?

In America, I think. Jeff Saturday does the pancakes and it's awesome. But I think Baldi and AQ break down offensive line play more. I think that is kind of, I don't think Jeff does a lot of break, Jeff is a head coach. Jeff, you know, so Jeff does a lot of all together and I'm not saying Acush couldn't be a head coach or Baldi, but they're breaking down I think offensive line play fundamentals, techniques, strategies plays much more.

Yes, AJ. Yeah, I think O line play is true. Most people have no idea what a good, especially like as a whole, what O-lines are good. They'll look at stats, they'll say how many stacks have they given up? Can they run the ball? And then they'll make a determination

whether you're good or not. So I appreciate it. AQ is doing a service to everybody as football fans, especially casual football fans, letting us know that this is where games are won and lost. Thank you. Thanks AJ. Thank you, AQ. I appreciate you guys. Let's go to hammer. Can the 32nd team, can you pop up the top of the statue real quick? Which one? With or without hair, doesn't matter. Okay. Can the 32nd

ranked team get one just like that but AQ's dong is hanging out like the guy on the edge of the bed the COVID guy the Patriots all I would love one of those I'll tell you what the you guys know who I'm talking about yeah yeah the COVID dong guy they put that guy's hammer on one of them drones yeah that's they got me I've been able to steer clear away from that guy's dong for a lot of things. I'll get texted something, dude, check this out. Breaking. Not doing it.

Hey, have you seen this? A lot of those, no. And I don't care. Even an algorithm will try to sneak one onto my feet. I'll be scrolling, oh no. And then I'm like, nope, I know there's a dong there. Okay, they got me. The drone one just a few weeks ago,

they're like, holy shit, we got a good clean image. I'm like, I won there's a dog there. Okay, they got me the drone one just few weeks ago. They're like, holy shit We got a good clean image. I'm like Son of a bitch, it's true Do believe the big hammer guys no longer with us a rest in peace to him and thank you For your meat being a part of a trolling thing on the earth.'s never going to die. Never, never, never going to die. And they got me. And I'll tell you, that was, I was fucking disappointed. I mean, it was good to see.

It was good to see. It's a holy fuck, you know, like this guy's dong is gigantic. It is immortal. But then yeah, forever. But I was like, I got there. Hey, you gotta be better. You gotta be better on the internet. They get that. But they'll sneak that guy's dick in anything and it is

It is unbelievable. You're really watching. Yeah, Merry Christmas. Somebody try to give me a Christmas. Oh Jesus who are like her I assume Erlacher with that fucking snake thing. He does so on the golf course course. Where he just fucking attaches at somebody. He loves that. And he's like, ahhh! And he's like, ha ha ha! Erlacher is fun. What a weapon Erlacher is. His kid's going to Notre Dame.

Yeah. He's there, right? Err. He's there, right? I think he might be actually. Is Erlacher going to be at the game? Potentially. We should talk to Erlacher.

Yeah. We should try to talk to her like her. I mean I was gonna be busy. Yep. A lot of D's nuts jokes. Yeah. Stadium. Yeah. Oh yeah, I remember he yeah he sent me a DM. You remember? It was either a DM or a text message I think. A text message. He tried to get me. I go, you ever play with D? Yeah. I think I responded with I don't think so. He goes I'm gonna get you fuckers Immediately afterwards. It's like come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Those D's nuts runs. It's so unbelievable Somebody in the Colts, I'm gonna say who was they They executed like a full emergency

Type situation need to get somebody on the phone to answer D who like a full on it was like an orchestrated 15 people to get one person to get these nutted and it was one of the most ridiculous and absurd hilarious things I've ever watched because I was just happened to be a spectator who was in the training. So I'm just sitting there on the table. Then there's like, I don't know, like an alarm might've went off in the building. And then all of a sudden phone rings. And then it's like, need to answer the phone.

It's who? Scream from the other side of the room. Dee who? Somebody who is important. I think it might've been Hambone actually that they were trying to get this entire thing. He just retired. He's been around forever. It was like full panic in his entire thing and then there was like ten people were like these thoughts match

And it was like a full on site. I was sitting there like how long? Do you guys planning because you had to get an alarm to go off and then a phone? To ring and then like actual panic had to look like it was happening to kind of get let a guy's guard down for a Second and then it was screaming across the screaming He's not you fucking that was like Allegedly, I don't know if you saw this on the internet. I forget who said it It was one of Saban's former players, but allegedly Saban is a huge D's nuts guy really yeah We should try oh my god game day tomorrow is gonna be so yeah. Oh my It might have been Terry on Arnold I forget who it was exactly though, but allegedly Saban massive D's nuts guy. I'm getting people

So I'm not gonna finish it on game day, you know, cuz there's no reason to do it But as soon as if we hear a D who tomorrow was he on the program tomorrow? Yeah. Yeah. There we go Nobody tell him he doesn't know he won't know nobody tell him nobody will he don't really talk to him, but I don't think Yeah, just when you were coaching D like what was his biggest? Well, he did coach D milliner who was drafted in the first round was a cornerback So he might just go off on my owner, but I'm worried that we said this already and he's gonna be have his guard up No chance. No, he's not seeing this Josh Jacobs. He just told me in my ear, Josh Jacobs is the one that said,

Should we try to get him right now? Should we? No, no, no. We should save it for the ball. Yeah, but he, he, somebody's going to tell him. Nobody's going to tell. Somebody's watching right now telling somebody who's telling somebody who's telling them. Well, if you guys, if there's, I think we need to do it right now.

What's that? Miss Terry might tell. That's what I'm saying. Somebody's going to get it to miss. Miss Terry might be watching at this moment or daughter, Kristen or somebody. True FaceTime. That's what I'm saying. I think we should maybe, miss Terry might be watching at this moment or daughter Kristen or somebody true face down That's what I'm saying. I think we should maybe but he normally zoom but I have is I don't think that was time. I don't know what tell I don't think we should cold-called these nuts next save

It's worth a shot I mean it's worth a shot. It's worth a shot. I think You got me fucker I'm not gonna use my first facetime to in person would be a lot better. Yeah, I think so. Nobody tell them Nobody tell him. Yeah, if you're watching and you could tell him or tell him through somebody don't tell him, please my gosh Demoun has updated the graphic I guess uh, but we do not need to put that on here. Are you sure? We should definitely put it on. All right, ladies and gentlemen, award season rolls on. Okay. Maybe just the back wall so you guys can see.

Thanks for your quick work, D-Bone. Really appreciate it. Take a picture of his own dog. Fastest that guy's ever got something done. You're saying the guy wants to work. T-Bone just takes a dick pic and puts it on there? We don't need that. How do I get that? It ain't happened, bud.

How do I get that thing? That's why that guy is going to trend forever, pal. Alright, award season rolls on. Congrats to that guy for having that. Yeah. Hey, you want a trenchie? Yeah, I need that. No. So flabbergasted. You want a trenchie? Yeah, I need that. No

Could you imagine if that's what my trophy look like? Touching his ankle All right Award season rolls on boys doesn't it? What an honor it is to be a part of this award season. I know Did you guys watch TGL last night? Certainly. Looks like good game. I saw some of it. Looks like good game.

Good sport. They need to build a bunch of those. I don't know how you do it. It seems like it takes a lot of space, but somebody needs to build one of those Amazon warehouses that pop up out of nowhere in the middle of America here and just put like five of those things into it. And then you can charge probably whatever. If I can get a golf round done in an hour and 30 minutes Plug in my Bluetooth while having an open bar without having to walk or travel too far while still walking and traveling

Well actually hitting shots man. I would Sign up for that experience every single time now. They built the sofa dome I think is what they called it where they were playing it. It was a beautiful set look like a beautiful sport Television purposes, I think it's, you know, I think people will watch because it's golf and it's entertaining. I think they'll continue to figure it out, how they're going to be a TV show.

They did drop a hammer down a couple of times in there. Don't love that. That feels like, that feels like certainly a little something something, you know? And it, I think they think it sounds cool. It certainly does, which we love. And FedEx sponsored the hammer down thing. FedEx was supposed to sponsor our show. They did not remember that I already spent the whole thing. We thought oh, yeah, it sounded cool for a long time

So it's fedex hammer down thing. Yeah, I didn't see it live. Does that green move and undulate or is it? Yeah in between each so each it's a new green every hole. Yeah, they can change it to fit what the chorus calls for You know, it's pretty sweet Which is why it's sweet and if you get like in some shitty stuff but not all the way in the sand you're in a good spot like there's a couple where Ricky's I think we're rolling it was like not officially in the sand but certainly in a shitty spot it's like well you lucked out a lot better than if you would have went into the sand would be cool to just hack sand all over a warehouse which is what we amateur

golfers would do I think it was a poor choice to see who started it. I think Tiger should have taken on Rory night one. I agree. I think that should have been the case. Now Tiger on the mic explaining and talking and doing his thing was good, but like if you're launching in a sport, a league, like I think you should have your, the people that are behind it in there. I think, you know, but that's just me looking from outside in having

Zero to do with TGO. I like there's a new sport. I think there's a new sport happening and I hope they make those buildings in places Yeah, it was cool. Like you said, that would be very very expensive I would assume to build that out but like a bachelor party or something. Oh With how much space they need, you know, you can even build a little hotel type gimmick, you know, rent one fifth of one of these warehouses. They said the screen that they're hitting into is five stories high. Geez. So you need that Amazon warehouse thing that you need.

No, they can't do that. What are they gonna charge you, 80,000 per round if you can only have two foursomes at a time? No, you would charge a premium amount. You'd just, you'd be rotating people in and out of there. Let's not talk to billionaires out of creating this. Okay? Let's not say they're never gonna make their money back.

Let's not talk that it's ever gonna be feasible. Let's not talk about the reality of the situation. Let's talk about how cool it would be for us to be able to fucking sign up for that. Okay, let's think about that. I agree. I think it's, I think it'd be a bit pricey. Let alone the tech.

Yeah. Just the tech. Yeah, cause if it screws up one time while you're doing your round. Oh my god, I'd be so bad so pissed If you could do like eight people Have eight rooms No house in the back, you know a couple of cottages maybe and hold on have your own round Bluetooth in there you know obviously door-dash food in if you need a war. Hey, we got food right here for you. Oh, you can eat. Oh So much good content coming out of that. Oh, yeah We didn't really know what was happening right now we're really told anything

I think it's potentially cuz I told the PGA people go fuck themselves Definitely. Yeah in conjunction with the PGA. Yeah. So I think that's probably what it was. I think that is probably the case. Cause I was, as I was watching, I'm like, it feels like we would be a natural fit for this. What they are trying to do here.

And we're obviously, if something's quicker, more. Exciting. And there's still a lot going on in the sports world. People are partying while watching. It's like, feels like we would be a natural fit for all parties to be like hey ESPN this feels like it we didn't know any of it and I was like was guy to ask some questions I'm like who's all involved in this because I've certainly told a lot of people to go fuck themselves throughout our journey People I sleep very well knowing that I told them to go fuck themselves

And I think if you learned of them you would say yeah, you should sleep Soundly for saying that's that entire thing and then once I started hearing something I'm like, oh, yeah That's probably why we weren't brought up. I don't think we had a chance to really get in there boys But hey, we will watch and we will enjoy that. Can you bet on it? Fandle was big-time sponsoring I think yeah Fandle's a sponsor and they actually promoted it last night and I went on the app and looked for it And I couldn't find any of the odds anywhere. I was excited to watch because I enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty fun to watch Yeah, couldn't find anything to bet on me, too. I Think he else low, but I think it was cuz it was a blowout. It was a fucking blow

I don't know who's gonna beat the bay Sure, they look like a wagon. They looked good big putts falling early. Yeah, I think LA looks pretty good, too Though I think I saw their four-person picture come across. I think LA looks pretty good too though. I think I saw their four person picture come across. I think it was Tommy Fleetwood, Colin Morikawa. Those guys don't have the legs. The Boston team does though. Who's Boston? Boston Common Golf Club?

Is that Rory? Yeah. Sure. That's Rory. It's the Jupiter links. I think Tiger's team also has Max Homa. Yeah. You know those are two great personalities to your point.

Wish they would have started them off last night. Yeah, I think, I don't, that feels like a, I'm sure somebody smarter than us had. I'm sure there's somebody who has a different idea than us in this entire thing. Thought that, you know, Tiger being able to talk and be like a representative of it during the first one would be a good move.

But it's like- He could have did that while playing playing Tiger playing golf is what everybody was there maybe you get two ratings okay because you get a rating because people gonna turn in tune in the first one today and then people are tuning for Tiger yeah yeah possibly be blue torn activated yet there's trees let's not do what you're about to go a week a week now. That's right. It's next Tuesday Yes, Tuesday or Monday, I know they play on Mondays as well. Oh boy, they better not play on Mondays Oh, yeah, no, no

What about the fourth guy when does he play like that each of these teams have a fourth guy? Yeah, I think it's just they pick one guy to fucking ride the plane could just ride the pine the whole season if they Wanted that person should be the hype man, you know on the bench like that's what we need out here They should make that guy get all fucked up and then I have to go up there and hit shots. Yeah, but They all should the drunk guys have to go on the last hole. It's for five points each Yeah, we get some edibles in here too. You know if we're gonna make it be a good time Let's actually have it be make them spin around on a bat You know put your forehead on the bat and spin around eight times and hit it dizzy. Oh, you're talking about Louisville chugger

Yeah, I like I like a little dizzy golf Maybe if you're not in if you're the fourth guy you got to play Edward 40 hands until you're done And then you get to sub in yeah can't be either gotta be your pants Yeah, you ever play Edward 40 hands never Yeah, you ever play Edward Forte hands? I've not never heard of it. Never? Whoa. Bullshit. At Yukon? That's bullshit.

Duct tape. Full east of both your hands. We've seen what D-Butts does when he has to slug some beers. I don't know if he does too well. What's that? Your birthday a few years back. Falling asleep in the bathroom. A few birthday a few years back. Falling asleep in the bathroom. Bit of a runaway. It certainly was a little bit of a runaway as was this show.

But who would we be if we didn't wrap it up with maybe the most important part of this entire thing? There was obviously the Trenchies. Congrats to all the award winners. Hey Jeffery, how come you don't clap ever? Because you know I'm like a little bit of a delay. So it would be off. It would be kind of like I don't want to I don't want to throw any stones. It was a great debut on Netflix. It would be a little bit like Michael Cole Yeaton with everybody.

Well, I'm like a second half a second behind you. He was kind of on rhythm with how offbeat he was. Yeah, it was like a perfect, it was like a perfect, like an Oompa Loompa type situation where you're going like this. It was perfect. And then he would change his BPMs there every once in a while and then it was like, I don't even know what,

can you hear anything right now? He's excited. Yeah, I think he got jacked up. And then that, that, that side high five had fire with Travis Scott with the follow-through. It did look like he said He texted me we were talking yesterday about it all and he said Let me find it. I mean that was a big be in the rap community That was the biggest yippee I've ever seen. Bingo. That's what he said.

Please remind people I'm massive in the rap community, Michael Cole. He said they love me. They love me. He saw that side high five and was like, God, I still fucking got it. Yes, I did. Who's going to get a side high five from Darius J. Butler? Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to announce the All Everything DBT!

Yeah! Oh, let's get to it. Okay, hold on a second, because I gotta get to it on thing. Uh-oh. This is what it's all about. Go ahead, Darius. Ooh, hey, like I said earlier, only five spots. So obviously a lot of great, great DBS around the National Football League, but there's only five,

two corners, two safeties and one nickel back. Let's start with one of those safeties. A big, obviously it's coming from the brand new Lions. Wow. Congratulations! Joseph, yep. So, common theme, you're gonna see all these five guys every week, you've seen these guys throughout the year on the tape, and we know what Kirby Joseph does out of the deep part of the field. Led at the National Football League in interceptions, this is one of his nine, it's hard to get nine interceptions.

You'll see him reading Brock Purdy out of the post, makes a great break on the ball. A lot of times, quarterbacks don't really factor in that post defenders when they're going through their reads and making throws on time Especially across the middle of field he gets off from the middle of the field to the sideline And he can also break down in the middle of it and make plays just a great great job from Kirby Joseph One of two very very good safeties for the Detroit Lions. He was on everything DB, good D, a lot. A lot. Yeah, and it felt like they were also on in the trenches.

So the Detroit Lions were on in the trenches and they were on in the secondary, which stops explosive plays. Yes. Felt like it was a nice little tag team of Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson teaming up together. Got a great team, great culture, great coordinators. And we've been talking all year long

about the injuries on the defensive side of the ball. but Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator on that side, most likely will be a head coach in this cycle. Have these boys humming man, but Kirby Joseph since coming into the National Football League, he gets the ball in to be on the All Everything DB team. I value ball production. Okay congrats to Kirby Joseph. He's also a mean cuss. Let's put that one in there as well.

You gotta be. Gotta be a dog to be on everything DB. Yes sir. Speaking of dogs, we've been talking about Jim Harbaugh a lot. He brought his defensive coordinator over from Michigan with him, Jeff Symenter. And the guy, the centerpiece of this defense is Derwin James,

a guy that can play and impact the defense on all three levels. So you can put him up near the line of scrimmage He can rush the passer over five sacks this season also a bunch of TFLs and then one game Ending interception against the Atlanta Falcons. So in this game alone, he had ten tackles two TFLs and interception This is him on a big third and one shooting that gap running down to play making a tackle behind the line of scrimmage Like I said, they put him around the ball a lot more this year he played a ton in the slot as well so he could have been a pro bowler or an all-pro at the slot but you

see the time you see the anticipation of speed since he was a dog at Florida State and coming into the NFL multiple time first team all-pro Durwin James the game breaker it's him in the middle of the field fourth and 12 to end the game reading it reading it foot in the ground boom eyes back to the quarterback game in their curtains Derwin James is the other safety on the all everything DBT Wow what a sight congratulations to Derwin James hell of a year and a guy who Jim Harbaugh said he was so lucky to have on the Chargers whenever he arrived there. Yes. He talked about the pillars. He was like obviously Golden

Goose, Justin Herbert. Then you think about Matlock. He had Matlock on that thing. Khalil Mack, Bosa, Derwin James. Yes. If those guys are on your team, you can win. And Coach Herbert also down in the weight room said he loves all these dudes. So not only on the field is there when James Doug off the field He's like a perfect leader love his ball loves with football gonna have to if you want to be on the all-over thing Yes, yes common theme with all these guys and all these defenses a bunch of very very high level competitors like come high competes That's what you got to create as a head coach and as a defensive coordinator guy You talked about having a good year gotta had a great year bounce back year I think it's the best slot defender in National Football League this year Marlon Humphrey over there the Baltimore Ravens

Everything to be obviously slot defender has near and dear to my heart That's where I spent a lot played a lot of downs in the National Football League You got to be involved in the run game. You got to be involved in the pass game You got to be a communicator There's him actually on the outside. He played a lot of downs most of down on the inside But pretty much won his game. This is one of his two interceptions Against the Bucks. This was a three-point game at this point Ravens were down needed this play If you run it back to the beginning or you can show the the other angle This is just him being heads up. So three yard line

He's trying to run and Chuck Chuck this tight end out of bounds But you can legally do within five yards or if the quarterback breaks the pocket So he's trying to get him out of balance because we all know once that receiver goes out of bounds He can't be the first one to touch the football and then gets his eyes back on the quarterback get back to the back Pylon where Baker Mayfield was looking and gets this interception had another interception in this game had a big interception the Pittsburgh game six interceptions from Marlon Humphrey this year just a phenomenal phenomenal player congratulations Marlon Humphrey absolute dog now we need a corner or two to round out the all everything DB team

yeah you need corners you need guys that you can leave on the island. You need guys that can press, that can play off, that can tackle, and that can once again have some ball production. So, Derek Stingley Jr. Wow, congratulations. Came into the league, yes sir. Came into the league a couple years ago.

Top of the draft, number three overall pick. You don't see a lot of corners going number three overall. His skill set, so big part of playing DB is Especially DB like him follows the number one receivers once again can plays on can play man, right? If you pause it as Brian Thomas jr Had a great a great rookie year out of LSU in a lot of DBs in this situation to go to panic You got a blazer a couple yards in front of you out of phase So you panic but not when you have the type of four three blazing speed that Derek Stinger Lee jr

Has stayed composed got his head back played the ball great great ball skills can get in your face We saw him get two interceptions against Tyreek Hill. It was a stretch a four-week stretch. It's got have four interceptions Once again, I value ball production in his face face once again at this point a lot of guys panic He does not read the eyes reading the body language Gets his eyes back tracks the ball goes up and gets it just a phenomenal player that you can leave on an island and feel Very very comfortable. Who was the quarterback here? This was Trevor Lawrence. Okay, so there's a lot of people thinking themselves like hey put the ball out there He's got him He's got him out there but Stingley's

gonna make a play regardless we assume because how great he is. You don't just fall onto the All Everything DB team. Now there's one spot remaining who will be on the 2024 2025 All Everything DB team hey There hasn't been many defensive player of the years That played the cornerback position this guy right now is the bed favorite had a career high for interceptions this year Force fumbles tackle can press you can play off can do everything we talked about Nick Saban earlier It's another Saban guy up here cornerback Patrick certain the second another saving guy up here. Cornerback Patrick Surtan, the second. Wow, congrats! He has to round it out.

We got a boo here, cause Gonzo didn't make it. But, oh, I'm sorry, what was that? Ooh. Oh, he's saying two to this Patrick Surtan. I was not booing, I remember. Boo's has been the third. Ooh. Locked in.

Locked in, yeah. No boo's for him. This is him at cover two, playing the flat against our coats, playing the flat defender. This is him in cover two playing the flat against our coach playing the flat defender This is like China 7 hitch 7 whatever you want to call this route concepts Baited the quarterback into it jumped the short route sunk back got some depth went up high point to football This is Patrick Sir Tan football well coach not only from Nick Saban, but his pops Miami dolphin great Patrick Sir Tan New Orleans guy dolphin great coach them up in high school and it's still coaching right now

But Patrick certain is the best corner in National Football League and right now I believe I'm not sure if there's still the case tone The betting favorite to win a defensive player of the year. So he rounds out the all-everything DB team everything DB team. Congrats all. Great play. Hell yeah. Congrats all these guys. I thought we had some exciting whites that maybe were going to make a run at this thing.

Yeah maybe. Or like a guy like Xavier McKinney, you know you value ball production. Guy had eight picks, you know you lead him off there. He did have eight. Because of what Durbin James, how he impacts the entirety of the game, I had to get him up there. Sure. Kirby Joseph, he took the lead, lead got nine but Xavier McKinney was there I got guys right Brian Branch, Buddha Baker, Kyle Hamilton all these guys could

Denzel Ward, Gonzo off New England, Jalen Johnson in Chicago, in San Francisco. Kenny Moore, Andy, Cooper DeGene. It was great. It was great. But he didn't start until like week five. Maybe next year. Maybe next year. Maybe next year. Harrison Smith.

Hitman had a big pick. He's an absolute dog. Congrats on everybodyman had a big pick. You know, he is, he's an absolute dog. Congrats on everybody for having a phenomenal season and the All Everything DB team is stacked and littered with greats who love ball and have been playing at a high level. And all those teams in the playoffs. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That is, it's kind of going hand in hand this awards season. Absolutely. Shout out to the Trenchies. Shout out to All Everything DB team. That was fun to be a part of. Yeah, that is it's kind of kind of going hand in hand this award. Absolutely shot to the trenches shots all everything DB team That was fun AJ what are your thoughts on the are everything DB team pal? I think it's amazing how many like elite second level defenders we have like D

But going through the list of the guys that are just barely missed making it like all of them are Absolute studs like those guys can all play I think we're in a great time for college and NFL like talent wise. There's dudes everywhere the outside skill set I'm not talking about offensive line because I think people have said there's maybe a problem at the offensive line for the next generation But Bill Belichick Michael and Barty said they're gonna go find some big boys and let them know that they'd be great offensive linemen And try to get them back into the sport But on the outside seven on sevens one ones, the way things have kind of gone. I think that's heightened the skill set

and heightened everything going on the outside. Do you agree with that? Yes, and you know, being in good, AQ talking about it, being in a good system, being with good coaching, because you take a guy like, you know, Kirby Joseph, and try to make him a Derwin James, that might not work. Or you take a Derwin James and put him in center field,

that might not work. Then you got freak shows like Surtan and St and stingy you can kind of put those guys anywhere But they're very very valuable and they can follow number one receivers and then move in Marlon Humphrey back to the slot You know that pay huge dividends for Zach or his defense in Baltimore which in turn move Kyle Hamilton Back into the deeper part of field so having coaches that can put you in right in good situations Put you in good game plans and let you really play to your strengths very very important And those points you mentioned about the 707 like all those reps matters Just like going to the golf range and hitting a bunch of balls

You can go out and get 50 reps of covering, you know top flight got the meat Robinson who had a huge game against Justin Jefferson this past weekend He grew they went to camps going up against each other. So that was a guy he was very familiar with. That's the challenge he asked for. So all that shit matters. All right, so. Got a game ball afterwards immediately

and thanked the team. Great speech. He was very, yeah, that was a great post game speech by him. Kyle Hamilton was like a star, right? They're playing him at like star position. He was kind of everywhere, star year and everything like that. And whenever Marlon Humphrey kind of was went back to that and he was just able to focus on one job almost yeah that's kind of how chuck begano i think was

trying to talk about it made their entire defense yes yeah it made everybody better that pass defense was horrible was they was giving up huge plays run defense has been great all year past defense was terrible even though they're getting production from the guys up front, cutting guys loose, giving up. You know, quarterbacks too good. They're gonna find an open guy that gonna make big plays. So once they fix that, I mean, they're tough to beat. It feels like explosive play stat became the hot stat this year on who decides games.

College ball that's being talked about. Nick Saban even was the one that made me really think about it because he was like, other than the score obviously, the most important stat on who's winning these games is explosive plays. Like he said, and Nick Saban's old school you know, so whenever he's like saying this is something everybody needs paying attention to and then you start looking in the NFL it's like, hey, normally who has more explosive plays is going to win this. That is almost all secondary shit because run can obviously be an explosive play, but safety can save that. Yep. Long ball is an explosive play. Who can stop that?

Second, like very vital pieces to winning games all of a sudden. Even though it's a run game, it's becoming more of a running game. It's like you got to have dogs now that can tackle and also cover. Four three for Stingley. You talk about that. You got 4-3s and 4-2s all over that place. All those guys can run. Typically big plays come down to somebody losing leverage, so probably a bad edge or a bad gap or you know you got two guys go outside of an offensive player or two guys inside. So if you vice tackle because players are too good, they're going to make plays but it's about tackling them

Limiting the yak and the rack getting those guys on the ground you talked about running backs last year I don't believe there was one back with 300 carries and I think this year is like four four or five guys So sick gonna come yes Kind of come full circle been able to control that clock and then create turnovers and then create those explosive plays like you mentioned I'm excited to watch the playoffs. We've got a lot of good football happening right now, a lot of good teams. There were some crop games there for a while because I think there was two different classes in the NFL. I think there was.

And at the positions, there was two different classes. Offensive line, probably in the secondary. Let's go and have a great playoff, shall we? With super wild card weekend kicking it all off on Saturday. And then the college football playoffs tomorrow and Friday. We'll be live from the Orange Bowl tomorrow and then college game day. And then we'll be doing a simulcast on ESPN2

for Notre Dame versus Penn State. And then we'll try to get over to Texas, even though there's a snowstorm going on for Ohio State versus Texas on Friday night. There'll be a college game day at six to 7.30. And then the game kicking off at 730 we will be off because I believe there's things happening and We're incredibly lucky to do all this before we get out of here. Hey Q. She won do a oh, yes

Oh Talking to the boys before the game make you know, that's not good That's not good Watch this watch this this never happens OH, I know he's ready to go. Yeah. Yeah, you didn't even do the we are not a button. Oh my god No, you got Michael Cole rhythm that was the end of As the fate of the nitty-lines, what do you undo it holds on this ball? All right, you got through that way 30 people can win $500 the Penn State Nittany Lions will beat Notre Dame if you put that football into that hoop right over there. All you will have to do is repost this post,

say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay you. And all AQ has to do is make it happen. Why don't you do it for the people, AQ? Why don't you do it for Penn State? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Didn't do it again. Oh. Oh. Didn't do it again. Andy missed.

Wow. That was a good toss, but. Hit the rim. I thought you were gonna maybe be too jacked up because of the, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. We are Penn State. 30 people, $500. All you gotta do is put the ball into the hoop

right over there. A, Q, Shipley. Super Bowl champion Wow Both these are good. We don't need a full Those are good throws you should be excited about what just happened fire that thing do the hand thing again, yeah, that's part of the problem thing again yeah it's part of the problem what oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh bushwhackers let's go and get it done brother thirty people five hundred dollars I'm gonna do is put that ball into that hoop

right over there oh don't yeah I'm like that you didn't pot right there finally he did for a second drop those readers down The readers hey, I don't understand they're for reading things that are close on your new said no far said not near Really like a Hawkeye, oh yeah, but if it's right up in front of you, it's a little blurry I Got that LASIK done and they're saying that that's gonna happen to me is I'm gonna be able to see but I'm not gonna be Able to see anything here. That's the ideal situation. I said to our readers Did Lacey. What are you talking about?

Like whenever my, whenever my vision started to go, I thought it was it. Like I was, Oh, you thought your brain? I didn't want to. Yeah. I didn't want to go see a doctor. I was like, all right, this is it. Like, and I'm sitting there, my wife's looking over me. I'm watching film. I'm looking at my phone. I'm just like beating my head. I'm like, she's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm trying to put it back into focus. Yeah, cuz it starts losing focus. Yeah I'm gonna make you an eye appointment That's what I had even thought it. Yeah what?

TV house clothes when I started Come on refocus What are you boys doing? Geez a man with terrible eyes says he's gonna put net football in that hoop right over there for 30 people to win $500 Do it for Penn State pal, oh no What came out like a bottle rock Yeah, but that one went

I think that ball was making its own decisions You know, I mean cuz I might have came off the pinky a little bit AJ actually has something to say to you as two big Ten representatives are still in the semi-finals., first off, congrats to Penn State AQ, but maybe if before this throw, could you do that? Pat, I remember we watched, isn't the Penn State band guy that does the running like front flip to start the game, and if he lands it, they're gonna win, if he misses it, they're gonna lose?

You can use the stage to get a little bit more height so you don't hit your head. Or have someone help you rotate. You know, someone stands there and rotates you a little bit? Yeah, is it a back flip or front flip? Frontip's a lot harder than a backflip, personally. Yes. I believe. I've been able to do a backflip for a long time. Frontflip's always hard. Even on a trampoline, I get a little scared doing a frontflip. Can't see the landing. Can you standing backflip? Used to be able to, yeah. I could probably still do it if I wanted to. I don't know about that.

I ripped my hip flexor. It used to be my party trick. It was a pretty good party trick. I can do it off a back, or what you call it, a diving board. Yeah, into a pool. You can get one of those. You have the capability of doing it. Well yeah, we'll move one in. We'll wait for D-Bone to go pick it up.

So why don't you sit down before we get the diving board back in here. Get a high dive fucking off the top of the summer though. It'll be easy. Do the entire, it'll be no problem at all we'll wait this one's going in it is we're waiting on diving board i believe get trampoline in here please stat can we please do that uh i think everybody can do a backflip off a diving board too not everybody some people can't get over they can't get their brains the mental hurdle to get over you know what i mean? They're bitches. They are.

I agree. Just fucking go. Just go. Yeah, I agree. Did you grow up trampoline ever? No, not much. I had a fear of trampolines for a while. I saw a bad, bad injury on the trampoline.

Got sent off? No, like an ankle. Just go the wrong way. Jumping, it was down. Double bounce? Yeah, it was bad. So that kind of, certain things I saw as a kid, like ice skating, I saw a bad one.

My brother cut his finger real bad, ice skating. I was never a thing. Yeah. Trampolines. You're not an ice skater? You know, I was shot just where I was. Did not see that? Wouldn't have guessed that.

That's crazy, isn't it? Yeah. That's wild to think about. Yeah, crazy. Man, jot that down on a did not know list. I know. Put it on a second yeah. I'm surprised. Nope nope. Got scared away from the ice. Probably a good hockey player. I can't skate really either. Did you have a roller blade? Yeah. That was a good time. Did you have great skate rings? The trampoline. Great times. Yeah the trampoline and rollerblading era was a good time. Top notch. That was a really good time. I don't want to toot my own horn too much, but trampoline, I was a fucking menace on that day.

I could really go. I'm talking like double backflips at one point. I used to really just fucking send it on those things for no reason at all either. Like what's this for? I just see if I could do it. And then you see somebody can double about, exactly ends up helping me out. You know, I did that backflip off the top rope. I haven't been in a year and then you go up there

and it's like, well, fucking hope we still got it. And then as you're doing it, it's like, am I knees? Is this gonna, what is gonna happen here when I hit the ground and then land it? It's like all good. Trampoline era was cool. Do they still do them? Oh, they're back.

They're still going? Not just the standalone trampolines but like these jump houses or places like adrenaline those are huge the best place to take young kids just say wait dog all your energy trampolines awesome dodgeball rims they go slam ball needs come back they tried it was I think they the wrong group of people stunk yeah I think the way they were going about it was just not the right way. Felt a little arrogant, should have been a little bit more humble. They were acting like they were the best basketball. I think if I remember.

Yeah, that's why I also put it on at like 1230 at night. It's like, hey, maybe let's do it when everyone's not in fucking bed. What do you mean? 1230 one o'clock is not a good time to do something. I know. Crazy, right? Tone. Hey, adrenaline kind of has Slam Ball, was there on Saturday, great time. How'd you do, did you get in there? I did, I sweat a good bit, so I got out pretty quickly.

What a couple trampolines on the street, ton of those. I was there for toddler time, if you go on Fridays and Saturdays, five and under. And so I felt bad kind of knocking some kids around, but that'll happen. Had to do it for a kid. Teach him a lesson. Had to do it for a daughter. Teach him a lesson. Had to do it for a daughter.

All right, Akeesh. You failed everybody. Oh, you want one more shot? An NFL ball? A dupe? Yeah. Super wild card weekend. Yeah.

Connor has a motivational quote. Well, since it's an NFL ball, Penn State lost 20-0. Notre Dame stinks for you. It's kind of on you. But you can at least make 30 people happier By putting this ball and just fire that pig skin, man. I like that con man Hey before you throw that the other half of the talk to table. I something say to you, too I do a cue. Please make this I have to take a shit fucking bad

It's so bad shows been extended here about 25 30 minutes because it can't put a ball into a hoop We had the trenches we had the we had the All Everything DB team, and now do we have 30 people winning $500? Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

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Yeah, it doesn't mean shite but good throw. That was a good throw close all-incounts horseshoes hand grenades and bocce and Adam bombs And so that's the thing about those bombs. I don't think it has to be close That's why it's different Oppenheimer said you Put it anywhere. I'll take a full fucking city. They had great regret. Yeah from the movie I saw yes, you are yeah, it's two movies in one movie. I'll be okay if they just did one movie, but I Watched the whole thing. I learned a lot there. Didn't you great? You slapped a lot cheeks

Oppenheimer yeah, it did seem like he like pork in a little bit. They're calling pork and I'm a lot Well, really? Yeah, cuz you just slinging it you married Let me get some I Guess what the fucking Adam over here. All right. Yeah, really good the world stress a little bit All right. Next time you see us we'll be in Miami a nice cool 55 degrees yes can't wait to get down there college football playoffs semifinals are kicking off tomorrow night oh we'll be on sideline oh super wild card weekends this weekend oh so much good's happening hey, why don't you come out of Hammer? Don! Don! TGL's area, come on over here. Doing the TGL podcast, sports gambling

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But the thing about Tony is he wants to let us know. He's so comfortable here it's like he's at home. We appreciate you right didn't need to hear that be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life we're in this thing together let's never forget that team on me team on three one two three team goodbye