The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1275 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Wild Card Round Recap, Vikings vs. Rams Preview, Adam Schefter, Bill Belichick, Travis Kelce, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened during Wild Card weekend that was all chalk until the Commanders upset the Buccaneers in Tampa Bay last night, and they recap the two CFP National Semifinals, before looking ahead to tonight’s final Wild Card round matchup in Arizona with the Vikings traveling to take on the Rams who are the home team after the game was relocated due to the wild fires in LA. Joining the progrum to give updates on coaching situations around the NFL including Mike Vrabel being announced as the Patriots Head Coach, and Mike McCarthy officially not returning as the Cowboys Head Coach is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, and current Head Coach at the University of North Carolina, Bill Belichick joins the show to chat about the playoffs, what he’s up to in this recruiting dead period over the next few days, and how much a bye week can hinder a team in the playoffs. Later, 3x Super Bowl Champion, 7x All-Pro, 10x Pro Bowler, member of the NFL 2010’s All-Decade team, future Hall of Famer, and co-host of the New Heights Podcast, TE for the Kansas City Chiefs, Travis Kelce joins the show to chat about their prep before the Houston game, his relationship with Taylor Swift and if she’ll be in attendance, if they care who they play in these playoff games, his role in Happy Gilmore 2, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. I am live in San Jose and the boys are back in the Thunderdome on this glorious wild card. Overreaction Monday, January 13th, program starts now. Football! It is wonderful. I'm live from the Shark Tank over here, AJ Hawk, and they're obviously piecing together the arena for an electrifying Monday Night Raw that is right around the corner live on Netflix

this evening at 8 p.m. Eastern, but also tonight the Minnesota Vikings will do battle with the Los Angeles Rams in Arizona. Vikings is a two and a half point favorite. They will be wrapping up this wonderful wild card weekend in a huge way as Sam Darnold, who has reignited his entire football career with the Minnesota Vikings this year getting paid only 10

million dollars in base salary will battle the old grizzled veteran Matthew Stafford who has had like four or five different conversations about whether or not he was going to retire he had a broken frickin neck he had won the Super Bowl he has all the money in the world. Staring down another concussion that could potentially pain him for the rest of his life with a litany of children and a wife that loves him. Does he want to continue to play? Oh hell yeah.

He does. Stafford's a football boy. So is Cooper Cup and Pukin' Nakua and this Los Angeles Rams team after the trade deadline came together in the most healthy fashion that they've been, that they might be the wagon that could maybe go topple the Detroit Lions, who obviously be taking on the Washington Commanders next week in the divisional round of the playoffs. A lot happened over the weekend. We missed on Friday.

A lot happened in college ball. That's A.J. Hawk. He's live at the Thunderdome back in Indianapolis, Indiana. He's a Super Bowl champion with the Green Bay Packers. He's the all-time leading tackler for that particular franchise, but also he is a national champion with the Ohio State Buckeyes who are back in the national championship. AJ, congrats to you, brother. Congrats to you, man. Work's not done. You know that, Pat. Work's not done, you know that Pat, work's not done. They still have four more quarters to go. Okay, first it was four more games after the Michigan game, now it's four more quarters

that we got to get it accomplished. I appreciate the fact that there still is a massive amount of work to be done for both of these teams if they want to become national champions. Now obviously we've had the incredible opportunity to be on the sideline for these guys journey to this particular moment. This Ohio State Buckeye team looks different. They look like they're better than everybody. They look like they on offense obviously have enough weapons to be maybe an NFL team and I'm joking. I don't mean that for real. And on the defensive side they got dogs up front that disrupt the game. Old Jack Sawyer, Captain Jack Sawyer, takes a 92 yard strip sack and scored to seal a

cotton-bolt dub for this Ohio State Buckeye team with a high IQ defense that Knowles has been running over there. JTT, Jack, and them have been dominant. AJ, four more quarters for this team, it's gonna be an honor to watch. But they take on former Ohio State Buckeye, Marcus Freeman, the freshly turned 39-year-old in the Notre Dame Fighting Irish,

that I have not had enough respect for all season, I might say. I didn't think they were gonna beat Penn State, I didn't think they were gonna beat Indiana, I didn't think they were gonna beat Texas A&M, I didn't think they were going to beat Indiana. I didn't think they were going to beat Texas A&M. I didn't think they were going to beat any team that they were on College Game Day to be picked about. But Mitch Jeter with a little kiss maybe from Jesus Christ himself blowing that thing back inside the upright just like what maybe happened with old Gonzalez as he banked one home for the commanders yesterday. Jesus

helps Mitch Jeter and this fighting Irish team get to the national championship AJ I know you said it's four more quarters of work to do but you got to feel good Taking on this Notre Dame team if you're Ohio State and if you're Notre Dame You're right where you want to be nobody thinks you can win yet again Yeah I mean for Ohio State obviously we were talking on the on the plane ride home after these games Thursday and Friday. What a gauntlet you have to go through if you want to find a way to win the national championship game. You got to go win four tough games against unbelievable opponents.

But I mean, this is what this is like you said, this is why you lift all them weights. This is why you do all that stuff you don't want to do to get into this position. And man, Ohio State, Notre Dame, I think this matchup is beautiful. It's a it's like there's so many different people that have ties to this game to both these great universities and I can't wait to be there man. It's going to be amazing. Nine-year NFL vet is joining over there in the Thunderdome. He's been on the sideline alongside us. What a massively magical couple moments that we've got to have. Darius J. Butler, ladies and gentlemen. Darius J. Butler ladies and gentlemen. D-Butch they're testing the spotlights and such for the big show tonight so if you see me turning these numbers that's because there's

like a spaceship type light going right a beam going right into my face tonight is going to be electrifying but to AJ's point there you got to win four straight big games. Now the bye week was supposed to be something special all the teams that got buys They lost immediately upon it, but that's four straight weeks your team has to show up four straight weeks You got to be the very quality opponent four straight weeks You got to play your best game, but Ohio State didn't even do that They didn't even come close to playing their best game, and they still beat Texas by two scores Do you think Ohio State feels good about this whole thing or whose position would you rather be in D. Butch?

Oh, I mean, whose position I'd rather be in. There's no pressure on Notre Dame, no pressure at all with Marcus Freeman and that squad, but I'd rather be on the Ohio State sideline with that talent, with those coaches. You saw how the game was back and forth with Texas and it was, I feel like probably three three or four plays especially this screen right here right before half this was huge obviously a momentum and getting that seven-point lead back and then Captain Jack at the end of the game with that strip sack coming off the edge scooping and scoring and taking it to the crib so they have those five-star players everywhere and they're kind of hitting their peak they hit their peak throughout

this playoff you talked about all those different things you need clicking and going to the right right way for you. They also been healthy, you know, in a lot of the main positions. JTT got banged up a little bit, he was able to come back. Cody Simon got banged up, he was able to come back. Jeremiah Smith is still healthy. All their playmakers, their big time playmakers

are still healthy. So yeah, I would definitely rather be on that Buckeye sideline right now. But look, fighting Irish, they're there for a reason and now I'm you know Nobody's giving him a chance up to this point and I know that's gonna be the message going in this game Two great games for the college football playoffs semifinals both in the Orange Bowl and down there at the Cotton Bowl But I do fear that the wild-card weekend was very similar first couple rounds of college football playoff One half of the hammer

Don Cowboys AP tone. I saw you put a tweet out there brother. It said oh, isn't that interesting? Sometimes even if you have the perfect system to find out who should make it into the tournament or into the playoffs There's gonna be blowouts because maybe there is just two different levels of teams each year Not saying every team is gonna remain at the same level that it's at each year, but each year it seems like there is a little bit of a separator, which is why we can deem champions. Is that what you were pointing out? Yeah, it was. Whether it's a committee or we are just playing games, we're going based off of record and that's what gets you in the playoffs. There are levels to this shit, Pat.

The first round of the CFP, 19 points per game was the winning margin. Through the first three games after I put that tweet out yesterday of Super Wild Card weekend, the winning margin there was also 19 points per game. It finished at 14.6 points per game for the Super Wild Card weekend thanks to the game last night that was finally a close one between the commanders and Bucs. But no, there are definitely levels to this shit. You have to be good to really good to get in the playoffs, but there are also, you know, the great teams in the playoffs that show up and just trounce people.

Yeah. And it feels like a lot of people are kind of bored with super wild card weekend. They said, maybe that's why the NFL wanted to pull the word super from it. Maybe they knew that it was about to be a dud for most of those games. Now last night Obviously goes into a thriller needing two big-time field goals late in that game to make it something special and congrats to the commanders moving Over there in the NFC side. We'll talk to about here in a matter of moments, especially because what's happening tonight with Adam Scheffer But let's stay on the AFC side Let's go to the talks table at Boston Connor and that's I Schmidt con man

I know you remember the glory days the good old days with the New England Patriots with the topic of discussion when it comes to the AFC side of the playoffs. But now that we look ahead to the divisional round, same four teams from the AFC are being represented and obviously the Texans over the Chargers was a surprise by a lot of us because how the Texans ended the season. They beat the hell out of the Titans but what the Texans defense just did to Herbert, four interceptions for Justin Herbert who we have fallen in love with and we are a massive fan of and I think Harbaugh's about a year or two out you know putting

that culture in great head start in year one over there but Texans get a massive win. Ravens look awesome, Buffalo Bills look awesome, Con Man, my question is, the Chiefs are coming off a bye. We'll be talking to Travis Kelcey, I think. Yeah, let's hope. I think, the last couple times we've said this, it ended up not working out because of a scheduling situation, but in the next hour, we'll be talking to Travis Kelcey, and I know, you know, older folks

in the NFL, you know, grown ass men, guys have been around a little bit, you know, the knees are worn down a little bit this late in the season, the ankles, the bye weeks killed the teams in the college football playoff. Are we worried about the Chiefs having a bye week there? Do we feel like the Final Four are gonna be playing their absolute best ball this upcoming weekend? Yeah, I think best ball for sure.

I think with the NFL, especially with the Chiefs who've done this song and dance with the buy and having that time off getting kind of fresh almost. Andy Reid goes back into his bag, bro, and maybe draws up a few different plays, especially after watching that Chargers Texans game. I mean, the Texans, they showed it earlier today. Last time they played the Chiefs in the divisional round it was 24-0 in Texans and then they lost 51-31 to the Chiefs

So it's one of those things too where Chiefs might start a little slow Who knows probably a little different than the Lions on the other side where the Lions have that by and they got so many dudes banged up but with the Ravens Bills game I think we should do a kind of pink slips almost where whoever wins gets the MVP I think this is probably the game of the weekend at the current moment even after tonight's game I think it still will be I think between these two is what we've all kind of been waiting to see and also I saw a theory on X where there's the whole 12-year theory with the Ravens, you know, every 12 years They won a Super Bowl 2000, 2012, and now 2024. There was also kind of an extension to

that theory where the Ravens, the year before they won the Super Bowl, lose in heartbreaking fashion after being the one seed, which happened last year with the Chiefs. The Ravens are the one seed, Chiefs come to town, they lose in heartbreaking fashion, Lideria Sne need punch out Zay Flowers right on the goal line. Then, in the year after that would happen, the Ravens have to go on the road and win two games to then go on and win the Super Bowls. So the Stars might be aligning for the Ravens,

but I do believe that this should be an MVP game. If Josh Allen wins, he can get the trophy at midfield right after. And if the Ravens win, Lamar can get the trophy at midfield right after and if the Ravens win Lamar can get the trophy at midfield right after and in front of all Buffalo. I assume they'll be able to get that done. You know, I assume the NFL will be able to kind of slide the MVP Determiner into this particular game as opposed to the normal vote because we all saw the vote that came out. Lamar Jackson first-team All-pro quarterback. I think for like the last what a hundred years or something like that since a running back has won it or any other position is running

One it any quarterback that has been the first team all-pro or AP quarterback Has also won the MVP. Is that the right stat that I was reading tone? Yeah, you are correct for the last billion years Yes. Yeah, so it feels like Lamar Jackson has won that MVP Congrats him When do we find out who tone voted for that's a good question Muted oh, I think Pat got muted over there Pat. I don't know if you can hear yourself or not. I believe you got muted Oh, we can't yeah We were messing with him. What if you're doing what we do to get some happy screwed up? Yes, it would be but We cannot hear it's another layer today Baltimore there. Yeah, you're back boom

You're back. We are back. That is great news great news to be back So congrats to Lamar and obviously what he was able to do on Saturday that bought a Bateman that touchdown We just show what a purple the timing the precision Is that a third the amount of sauce that you needed to have on everything and then obviously anytime They're just handing a ball off to Derek Henry and just Continuing to run the rock run the rock run the rock like Lamar doesn't have to throw as much and then When he had to step up and make a throw he did and it was like not just he did there were tough throws Perfect throws he was running

all over the place. I think they had TJ Watt crashing on running back for every single RPO as opposed to maybe what they had done in the past. I don't remember Lamar having that much free access all the time on an RPO, but that was fun to watch. That was old school Lamar. So Lamar showcased everything that he is and everything that he has become as a quarterback Obviously the conversation with Deon Sanders after he gets drafted number 32 to the Baltimore Ravens was one that was awesome

Like this dude's driven they can get all I got they're gonna get a Super Bowl out of me was exactly what Lamar Jackson said Every single day he comes into the NFL behind Joe Flacco Then he takes over the Baltimore Ravens invest in the Lamar Jackson style. What was Lamar Jackson's style? Well, he's going to run a lot because when he has the ball in his hands, he's different. We all remember the highlights, the jumping spin, spin moves on people in the middle of nowhere. They go against Cincinnati, then he's got some down the sideline, then he's pulling away against people. And then every single year he went to work in the off season, not only shaking and baking jet skis on beaches,

but also throwing the ball all over the yard. What his arm has become in the moments that they've become him is special. I mean, he's making the right decisions. His team is loaded. Mark Andrews, who is a friend of the program, is a monster. Likely is an absolute beast. Derrick Henry goes bananas.

They got a team in Baltimore. And then when they take on this Buffalo Bill squad Mmm, oh get off me there likely said by the way Get off of me Derek Henry to his former teammate. Did he play with Minka at Alabama? I believe so I think so. Yeah Well, that was first drive wasn't it? That was first drive tough. He won hand to throat to him I mean that was the Baltimore Ravens just I Mean he pummeled the Pittsburgh Steelers. They just they just met Pittsburgh on a street maybe down in the south side and

Just punched him right in the mouth and then when the Steelers stood back up They punched him in the mouth again Then when they stood back up they punched him in the mouth again They just physically beat the shit out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tone Diggs, Minka Fitzpatrick obviously getting tossed there by Derrick Henry. I saw Bill Kauer say, it wasn't that they lost, it was how they lost, is what Bill Kauer said.

And then I saw Billy Bones, you know, and his reactions on the internet. And I think they echo a lot of Pittsburgh Was it because it was Baltimore that just manhandled you that was the problem or is it that it was any team that just manhandled You guys in the playoffs and you lose yet again In the postseason that is drawing this massive reaction of they're embarrassed by this Pittsburgh Steelers team They want change with this Pittsburgh Steelers team. They want change with this Pittsburgh Steelers team. And obviously we keep doing the Tomlin thing.

This ain't working for where we wanna go. No, it was embarrassing is a light word. I don't know if embarrassing is strong enough. And you said everything perfectly, except for the only thing I'll disagree with you about is you said they kept getting back up. Nope, the first time they got knocked down, they never get back up. Oh, They, uh, the first time they got knocked down, they never get back up. What? No, there was, um, there was, it's didn't

seem to be much fight, especially on the defensive side. Um, there was no fight. I mean, just look at the, the effort at some of, uh, some of the players here. I mean, that is, I, that put me over the edge. That play right there. I mean second and 20 That's not the offense. That's not the Pittsburgh Steelers offense there. No defense cam Hayward just got I mean no that is the Everyone's jogging no one's coming in hard. We talked about rallying to tackle and like Fight camp's had a great year, but no it was the we love cam We love cam, but I'm it was the, we love cam. We love cam.

But I'm just saying that whole play you go from start to finish. Oh yeah. All of them. I think every single, every single player potentially has a moment where it's like, that's regret. I mean, I mean cam done deserve that there, but yeah, normally you'd see this from like an offense, not wanting to jump on a fumble or something. We're kind of staying around, let it happen.

And that's not what the Baltimore Ravens do. Baltimore Ravens, what a pummeled there. Yeah. I got a little injury maybe. Hey, let's give an actual shot here. Let's make sure they feel us, you know, because in the end this is a physical game. This is a violent game. We're going to want to, you know, make them feel us as opposed to just sit around and

watch in a playoff game. Tony, you're right. I did not love any part about it. What do you think happens? What do you think happens? Hey, they're not going to get rid of Mike Tomlin. What do you think happens? What do you think happens? Hey, you're not gonna get rid of my Tom What? Trading him?

You're in my Tom. Coach T. Well, 100% we'll be back Do you want him back? Well, they just gave him an extension Oh, I believe it's a three-year extension. So I'm and it's about 50. Do your fans want him back tone? We know you got an extension, but they're talking there's all this talk of them possibly trading him, which I don't think I would say Based on the internet everything that I've seen everything I talked to back home. It's about ninety five percent would like to see Major changes at that position Wow, it's not gonna happen There may be changes at the coordinator position or some you know, like offensive line coach stuff like that But no there is not gonna be a change. So I'll see you boys here in the same time same place next year

We'll have the same conversation. It'll be great. Okay, so we'll talk about who's gonna end up with the Pittsburgh Steelers here in a matter of moments. But the point that I was getting to is the Ravens are playing their best ball, physically dominating people in Buffalo. I mean, they just, they were down seven nothing.

Oh no, oh no. Is this gonna be a Josh Allen again? Is this gonna be a heartbreaker for Bill's mafia? Is this Is this awful gays up here in Western New York? Then they rattle off 31 straight 31 to 7 the Buffalo Bills end up winning this particular game And we watch Bo Nicks drops them in a bucket. We watch them run around a little bit We even watch them get some stops on Josh Allen Whenever there's a little bit of a joust going on a little bit of a spar

Going on but inevitably the Bills wagon would get rolling and that wagon revolves around Josh Allen now James Cook is a hell of a back that certainly is a Asset for everything they got cooking up there and Shakir can do it all and Josh and Dion Dawkins in that offensive line Can literally just control an entire game if they want to he's big He's strong. He's fast. He's got an absolute cannon. I don't know how he kept his foot up there. That was Crazy and big booms were doing booms all over the place I don't know if you see those booms Ty Johnson doing the booms. I respect it. Why people here I did not necessarily love this call

They said his foot clearly touches out of bounds. And we're just going to say that he secures the catch within what, an eighth of a second of touching it. Gene Steritor came out and said, I am saying that. And then he doubled down and he tweeted it. So I will go off of what Gene Steritor said. But if they didn't score here, we assume they would have scored in another fashion. It's like this Buffalo Bills team is playing their best ball as well.

AJ, Bills Ravens, I mean, this is dream matchup this year, especially with how the storyline has gone for the last two months about the MVP. Both playing their best football. Yeah, they're both playing their best football. I think it was good for the Bills to get down seven nothing. Obviously, it's not like a huge hole to dig yourself out of, but I think it's good you're at home. All of a sudden people might freak out a little bit.

This team showed that hey, we can handle it. We'll find a way like you said to get 31 unanswered points, but Josh Allen is just different. He seems like he is super duper confident. And to think of Josh Allen Lamar playing this early in the playoffs almost feels like hey, we need this one game later. Let's go to the UFC championship. I would love to see that to get to the Super Bowl.

But the fact that these two studs are gonna face off here shortly, I'm juiced. I can't wait. I don't know who's gonna win. I know we'll make picks eventually later. But this game right here, this is the one you got to circle, I think. Is this a special one that we might get to see?

Very special. D. Butch, whenever you think about these two teams, which defense is playing better right now? Obviously, the Buffalo Beals were able to hold the Broncos to just seven points and Pittsburgh Steelers Especially had some long explosive plays against Baltimore Ravens George Pickens had a few Ross was able to drop a little maybe bring It to Russ back by the way I agree, maybe bring Russ back I agree maybe bring Russ back

Three year 120 yeah, I think so maybe maybe even 60 million one year go all in but nonetheless You look around how do you feel about it? How do you feel about the defense is there? Defenses I mean both these deep things are playing well Milano being back and being healthy for the for Buffalo Bill's big big time Vaughn is healthy as well But that rave is defense man when they're clicking when they're humming, when they're applying pressure that Grady gets to run and have big time playmakers on the back end as well. That edge I got to give to the Baltimore side on that defensive side of the ball.

But both of these quarterbacks obviously playing phenomenal. That Steve Young comment kind of sticks in my head when I look at what Lamar has been able to do this this year. Him saying like, look, we'll never get the best of Lamar until he's putting a situation where he's in a sophisticated passing game And he has to do a rep in and rep out obviously it starts with that run game and being physical But eight can sit back in that pocket and make big time throws and that makes a huge difference when you're going up against The Baltimore Ravens because the game plan for so many years was hey, make him beat you from the pocket,

make him beat you with his arm. And now he can do that. And then having Derrick Henry, and then the threat of Lamar running as well. You saw Derrick Henry, a wildcat with Lamar coming around, been a wide receiver, taking the eyes of linebackers. They are so, so tough with what they're doing. So Todd Malkin, what he's doing with Baltimore

in that offense, and then what Joe Brady is able to do with the offense and Buffalo as well with Josh Allen, where he doesn't have to be Superman every down, he can hand it off. Cause they really impose their will on the Broncos running the football. And then Josh had to be special when he had to be.

But yeah, this is going to be an absolute great, great matchup with two great ball clubs. Joe Brady and Monkin are both in their bags, brah. I mean, I think that is very evident, and that's why they have made it to the divisional round. Now, congrats to the commanders, getting a massive win. Congrats to the Texans, getting a huge win. We cannot wait to watch this evening

as the Vikings and Rams play in Arizona. Joining us now is a man who might have more information on everything. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, Michigan man ladies and gentlemen Adam chef Chefty happy wild-card overreaction Monday to you brother as We tighten you down a little bit. We squeeze you and you're like a panini there You know you started the sandwich and then a panini kind of flattens the bread. That's it was a Schefter sandwich

Okay, we had a little thin white white bread I wouldn't say it was Texas toast at all without small and I think I'm right boom now We found you right in the middle there their sandwiches now double dipped how you doing? Chef T good to see you first things first I know it's been a few days and we're kind of assholes bring this up But we would be assholes if we didn't bring it up. Much love to you and your family for the passing of Benny, we apologize.

Okay, that is, we're all dog people on this particular show. We understand very much what you want through there, losing your dog. Know that Benny had an incredible life and you are a phenomenal owner to Benny, okay? Please, from all of us. Thank you, buddy, I appreciate that.

Yeah, it was a rough week. Now let's get into the NFL. Okay. Let's get into the distraction from those types of things. Uh, looking ahead to this evening, anything we need to think about before we pick tonight's game, Vikings Rams in Arizona, we heard the contingency plans a couple of weeks ago, like week and a half ago, this game could be played in Arizona. If the air quality index is not proper. It did get moved there. It has since sold out.

Can you tell us about the behind the scenes on how that came together? Well, look, I think everybody recognized the tragedy unfolding in California and Los Angeles and people losing homes, the devastation everywhere. It's hard to imagine that you'd even contemplate playing a football game there at that time. And they made the decision officially Thursday, early evening on the East coast, late afternoon on the West coast to move the game to Arizona. I don't recall the league ever moving a playoff game in the postseason due to a natural disaster. I think this is unprecedented as best as I can tell. And so the Rams, obviously 24 hours later,

had over 400 people on buses and planes to Arizona, their organization uprooted there. planes to Arizona, their organization uprooted there. Um, and they've spent the last few days here and the way it's been described to me for them is it's been like a soup because you're in another city, you're getting ready. It's a strange feeling, but really I think the Rams are a microcosm of that city and a representation to say everybody, many people in Los Angeles are going through it. The Rams themselves are going through it.

There are people in the organization that lost homes. And obviously this is a distraction, this trip, this game. And then they'll go back to the reality of it all in Los Angeles. And you just hope that everybody there is okay. Obviously the images, the pictures, everything that's going on there, it's unimaginable. And so they get to play a football game tonight and not have to think as much about it for a three hour window before they get back to reality. Yeah. And obviously our positive thoughts and prayers, we said it last week and we know it's not enough, but we are watching along with everything you're going

through over there in California, down south of where I am right now. So, so sorry. Massive shout out to the Cardinals, the Cardinals equipment managers, everybody in that particular building for making the magic happen. And our source.

Sis. Inside the Rams have said, obviously obviously it's been a very difficult difficult week for our families out here. Arizona has been a net positive an environment for players staff and families to get away bond and focus on football and not fires and or evacuations which was all they could think about. I think even pets we're just talking about made the trip. I think everybody's trying to make this as conducive as possible to try to make sure this game is as fair and on a level

playing field as possible. We cannot wait to watch and thank you to football for being a great distraction this weekend. Go ahead AJ. Shepty what's the latest with Mike McCarthy and his whole situation with Dallas? I know just as the show started, there's reports that Mike McCarthy is no longer going to be back in Dallas. Can you tell us what the latest is? Yeah, the two sides officially are parting ways. They met over the course of the last week and basically had discussions about football,

no business discussions. They never got to that. There were no contract discussions. They never got to that. There were no contract discussions. And the longer it went on, the more apparent it became that clearly with Mike McCarthy's contract set to expire, him eligible to talk to teams at midnight on Tuesday, there was no movement towards a new deal. Clearly there was a direction in which Dallas wasn't going there. And so a short time ago, cowboy officials says the two sides are parting ways. Mike McCarthy is going to become a coaching free agent. The Bears and

Saints are expected to have interest in him and to talk to him. The Cowboys are now going to be in the market for a new head coach. So obviously a seismic shift in the NFL landscape. That by the way, Pat, would be the seventh team. What did we talk about all season long? You feel real good about it, obviously. Obviously you said these guys all have families and everything, so it's sad and devastating, but it's gonna be seven. Quarterback spots are gonna be up in seven,

probably coaching positions that are gonna be open. Okay, so Mike McCarthy is now head headed into not the firings But not getting another contract with the Dallas Cowboys if we've kind of been Hanging in limbo the Patriots have already given out their head coaching job to Mike Frable Which I know Connor will want to ask you about here in a moment But does Mike McCarthy say to Jerry Jones? Hey go fuck yourself for making me wait through an entire Hey, go fuck yourself for making me wait through an entire hiring cycle already, seemingly, for coaches that have already had interviews and chit chats and everything like that with Mike McCarthy.

If he wants to coach again, would have been a part of, we assume, in some of those places or is this standard operating procedure and Mike McCarthy understands the business? I think Mike McCarthy understands the business. He's going to get to Chicago a few days later than expected. It's not like the Bears have hired somebody. Ideally, you would have liked to have talked to him. What if they had though? What if they had though? What if Patriots already hired their coach? Chicago already hired their coach? The Jets, we know they interviewed 150 people. Shout to the 33rd team putting that list together. Hey smart person's been around football before Potentially could coach you should interview. Let's do 70 interviews

What if they hire somebody already like is this is this common how this whole thing worked out how there was an exclusive? Negotiating window for a week after their his contract already ended like is this normal and maybe we just never see it because coaches never make it to the finality of their contracts? It's a little unusual, a little unusual. You haven't seen too many situations like that. I don't know if it's ever occurred before. Certainly not in recent memory. It is unique.

And this is kind of the way that it's worked out. I don't think it's worked out. I think I don't think it's going to hurt either side. And you know, the whole thing with Dallas all along was this, the way I was thinking it. Okay. Clearly they're not moving forward with a deal for Mike McCarthy. So, so what are they doing? It wasn't ever going to get to the point in my mind where all of a sudden Tuesday was going to come and all of a sudden, Tuesday was gonna come, and all of a sudden Jerry Jones is gonna say, okay, we're not doing a deal with Mike McCarthy. What am I doing? Like, again, my question.

Yeah, he missed Vrabes. He missed out on Vrabes, which could have been a possible perfect coach for them down there. He's already got, this seems like more Jerry Jones stuff, which is like, I'm gonna do it my way okay and I'm gonna do this how I do it and now I want to do it and it's like

well Jer it might have worked back in the day now now things are moving raves may be perfect Dallas Cowboys go I mean I don't know if that's the way they want to go but you're right con man and Connor's gonna ask about that but it's like I thought it from my big Mike McCarthy Yins or Mike McCarthy standpoint like you basically held me in purgatory For a week here when other jobs have already been given out that they want a coach like me at that place culture builder You know tough guy from Pittsburgh, you know that whole thing already jobs already been taken I didn't think about it from the Cowboys perspective

Like you don't even get a chance talk to Braves Braves already taken. I didn't even think about it from the Cowboys perspective like you don't even get a chance to talk to Vrabes. Vrabes is already gone because you didn't even... wild. Cowboys are so different, Shafty. Cowboys always operate. Well, again, I think Mike Vrabel having his history with the organization that he did, I think probably that appealed to him being in New England, even more so than Dallas. And I think probably people in Dallas know that although I think Dallas might have been an option for him if he were a coaching free agent still out there but he's not so he's a Patriot head coach and there's one fewer option one fewer coach for the Dallas Cowboys to think about and so so now we can start wondering about all the names

to think about. And so, so now we can start wondering about all the names who could be in line and be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Who, who, who, who, who's the top of their wishlist? You know what? I do not know that factually. I really don't because if you're not in the Tomlin, huh? They're thinking about trading from Mike. Wow. I don't, I don't see the Steelers trading my timeline. I just don't see it. I don't see it now. Again, things can always change, but I don't see them being interested in trading my timeline, no matter who calls them and who checks in to see whether or not he's available.

Okay, well, that's just Jerry Jones doing hiring here right now. Not Steven or anybody? Well, it's Jerry's organization and obviously Steven assists him and we'll see what they decide to do. But this is going to be a fascinating hire because now also, by the way, you missed out on the window to talk to some of these coaches like Ben Johnson. Exactly. If you want to talk to them, you can't do that now.

I'm so confused by it all, but hey, that's Cowboys isn't it? And the thing about Cowboys is the way they're running is because they want to work with their family. You know, when they're laying down on their deathbed, they're not wishing to see a couple more sons come up. They're thinking I did the right way with my family. You should be listening to this too over here, Slappy. I'll see you guys later. Jerry Jones needs to get into acting full time and let his family maybe run his team. That's my personal opinion. Let's go to Boston Connor because we just chatted all around it here. Yeah.

Chef T let's be real here. Vrabel was going to New England no matter what. And guess what? The Patriots won the coaching cycle once again. This is a perfect hire. We're bringing six, we're bringing dips, we're bringing beers all the way back in New England. What are the expectations for his staff? Seen a lot of Josh McDaniels is going to come with them. Have also seen some other rumblings of different guys. Tommy Reese, because the connection in Cleveland as well, because Vrabel was there last year

and so was he. Is that probably going to happen with McDaniels or is maybe Big Mike going to say, Hey, I want in on that. I'm going to go up to New England, maybe call plays for a year, not be doing the head coach and shit after how the Cowboys went this last year. Well, I think Josh McDaniels is an obvious candidate and I would say potentially the leading candidate for that job. If for no other reason, he's got great success as an offensive coordinator. He's been with that organization. He knows Mike Raible. He lives in Fox Tarot. The Raiders still own three more years of money. It's so logical, but there is

a process that you have to go through before you can hire a coordinator. But look, Josh McDaniels coordinator, but look, you know, Josh McDaniels is as obvious a choice for Mike Raible's offensive coordinator as Raible was for the Patriots head coach. So we'll see how that turns out in the end, but would it be a surprise if Josh McDaniels is the offensive coordinator there? No, that would not be a surprise in the end once they go through the process. Putting the band back together, potentially up there in New England. I know Boston, Conn and all the rest of the revolution region are gonna be excited,

especially with Drake May being as great seemingly as he looked his rookie year. Congrats to the Braves, proud of you bud. After you're back in the NFL as a head coach. And it's gonna be good to see him have to put a half a 10 in his mouth to go coach the Patriots up there in Foxboro gonna bring back the mystique. He needs to do the half spat right there He wouldn't do the full spat because of a shoe deal. This guy knows business has known business for a long time Love everything he's about offensive player defensive player head coach position coach

Vrabes been there done that as an Ohio guy done good Can't wait to see what the Patriots become yet again. And you know, everybody in Indianapolis and Pittsburgh, no flies in, Vrape says, everybody in Indianapolis and Pittsburgh and Baltimore and the cities that had rivalries against the New England Patriots. I'm not saying the Patriots felt like they were rivalries

the other directions to all these cities, but all these cities that hated the New England Patriots for all those years are like, great, now they're back. I think that's just the common belief is that Frames is gonna lead them right back to the promised land AJ. Oh no question I wonder how Shefty thinks with this whole Mike McCarthy situation though Shefty I want to get back to you real quickly this Bears. Yeah yeah. Do you think he's the leading candidate for that Bears job? I think Mike McCarthy is gonna be a strong candidate in Chicago and New Orleans, both.

And that has implications on other teams as well, because to me, Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson are getting jobs in this particular cycle. Both of them are going to be head coaches if that's what they ultimately decide to do in the end. And Aaron Glenn is in play in a number of places but most notably New Orleans and the Jets. So if all of a sudden the Saints are in on Mike McCarthy and if he gets that job then Aaron Glenn and the Jets would become a logical match down the line.

Ben Johnson's going to get a job here whether that's in Jacksonville or Chicago or the Raiders, but he's going to get a job too. So we'll see how that one works out. Mike McCarthy now gets put into this mix and he'll be in play in Chicago and New Orleans. So again, you're going through all this and waiting to see how it turns out, but that's how some of this is shaping up at this point. But again, back to the Cowboys, I said to you, Aaron, Glenn, Ben Johnson, they're getting jobs.

If the Dallas Cowboys wanted to talk to them right now, they cannot talk to them until their season is over. They can't. You can't, you missed the window. They missed the window. AJ, I'm happy you didn't you miss the window they miss the window Uh, aj I just I'm happy you didn't want to give variable a thought at all there during that conversation I'm happy we also went back. Oh, no Happy you went back and clarified some things on the big mic mccarthy

You know job search because boy if you wouldn't have said that and then Schefter wouldn't have hammered home the saints opportunity Can you think about big mic down there on Bourbon Street? I was, that's what I was thinking. He was on staff before, so he'd be coming back like he was there before. Oh my God, what are those cakes down there that they eat? What are those French, the uh. Beignets. Beignets.

Yep. Oh my, Big Mike McCarthy in New Orleans would be awesome. I just thought of that now. He'd be so hot. Oh my, it would be so hot. He'd be Brian Kelly's face all the time as he injured down in Louisiana. But we're excited to see where Mike McCarthy ends up at.

Let's go back to some player stuff. D-Buch has a question for you. Let's go to Baltimore. Obviously a big divisional matchup coming up with the Buffalo Bills. Uh, their pro bowl wide receiver, say flowers been dealing with an injury since their last game. Uh, any update on him, if he'll be able to come out this week or the following

week, if they're able to win. Uh, I, I think essentially he's gonna have a chance to get back for this game. I know the Ravens felt like if they could win this past week that's a flowers would have a chance To be back for the divisional plug-in now. It's a tough injury. It's a knee no guarantees Let's see how the week goes but on Monday leading up to that huge matchup Sunday night 630 I would say that there's a Chance that's a flowers is going to be back in that game. Okay They don't need it seeming

I mean if they were to get more weapon this Baltimore Ravens team fun to watch that Bill's Ravens game is obviously gonna be hyped up Immensely tone has a question for you chef D. Yeah, I do chef to you another game this weekend between the commanders and Lions Yeah, I do. She had to get another game this weekend between the commanders and lions. Uh, coincidentally, Ben Johnson is the OST for the lions. Uh, Tom Brady's calling that game. Tom Brady is reportedly trying to bring Ben Johnson to, to the Raiders. Is this a, this is a trial for Ben Johnson with Tom Brady in the booth? How's this all working out? Tamper. Well, what I'd say to that tone. Number that tone number one is I think that Tom Brady is professional enough that he's not gonna look to violate or skirt new rules and from Ben he doesn't have to do Ben Johnson doesn't have to do

anything to impress Tom Brady any more than he already has. Tom Brady is broadcasting Ben Johnson's game. That's the way it kind of goes right now. Um, we could come up with these scenarios, not a lot to have contact. And by the way, if the NFL hands out a memo, maybe it will saying that Tom Brady and Ben Johnson are not a lot to talk, I could tell you this. I don't think Tom Brady really cares. He doesn't need Ben Johnson to speak to him to get ready for this broadcast on Sunday. The idea of that is absurd. But again, people get very sensitive and touchy. And so if there are rules that

nobody wants to have violated, fine. Look, I think we're all adult enough to know that Ben Johnson is a primary head coaching candidate in multiple places, including Las Vegas. I don't believe that Tom Brady needs to recruit Ben Johnson any harder. And he's going to woo him on his trip to Detroit this week while nobody else is allowed to talk to him. And Ben Johnson is getting ready for his most important game of the season. Again, call me naive, call me silly, call me ridiculous. I think that everybody involved is professional enough to do this the right way. All right.

Well, you're ridiculous. I know you just told me to call you that. Ridiculous. All those I'm envisioning it now. I'm envisioning it now. Cliff Kingsbury makes a bad decision. Third quarterish Tom Brady goes, and that's why Cliff Kingsbury makes a bad decision, third quarter-ish. Tom Brady goes, and that's why Cliff Kingsbury,

who's been a head coach before, is nothing in comparison to Benjamin Johnson. This Ben Johnson guy just serenades him over the air in front of 30 million people, 40 million people, whatever the number is, that's gonna be watching that particular game, and then you start to wonder yourself, Ben Johnson's family starts texting him saying,

hey, you know, Tom Brady was complimenting you. His mom said, hey, it was nice to hear the greatest of all time say what he said about you and then they'll cut to the thing and maybe Tom Brady's wearing a Ben Johnson for president pin. Maybe he's even wearing one of those and they're like, you know what,

Tom Brady really likes you. He seems like he has your back, he understands you. He starts talking about Ben Johnson, the man and the family. And now you've got agents and family. There's a chance Tom Brady could sway this thing in their favor, even though Ben Johnson is picking and choosing which particular job he wants there. I hadn't even thought of it until Tony just brought it up.

Wow. It's a real conundrum the NFL is in, Schefter. It's a real conundrum. It's a real conundrum. Isn't it is. Yeah. Isn't it ridiculous? There's so much ridiculous stuff that could happen. I feel like Tom Brady has done a phenomenal job getting better each week. And then by the way, I think Tom hears those comments and sees those comments and is laughing and is like, are you serious? Are you serious? That's Tom's reaction. Okay, let me wait for him there let me speak for him there

Okay, good. Well, I'm happy that the greatest fall time is on the call But they have been calling for conflicts of interest basically all year. It's seemingly going off without a hitch He's very hands-on in this hiring process They've been reporting that a lot and then I saw somebody say that some GMs and coaches might not like that It's like well who gives a fuck if you don't like what the greatest of all time things like what are we talking about? Is that real Schefter? There's some people saying they don't like that Tom Britt. Who is that anything sweet was that Mike McCarthy? Yeah that's well

people are very sensitive people are just very sensitive about that, you know rules and wanting things done a certain way and So so Tom will listen to the rules will abide by the rules and you can't forget that you missed it You were reading a text. I was asking you there were some coaches allegedly in GM's it said allegedly I forget who reported it might have been you might have been another insider that is not at your level Obviously chef do we talk about that? Somebody said that some coaches and GM's don't necessarily like how hands-on Tom Brady has been. Is that true? Is that real? Hands-on? I don't think he's been very hands-on at all so far. Not in the interview process? Tom Brady's not involved in the interview process?

He isn't. He is involved, but it just got underway. How can we even say that he's too hands-on? And by the way, isn't that why you brought in Tom Brady to be involved? Like I don't understand it like that's why you included him in your ownership group and made him a part of the process is to have him involved and What we're getting underway with an initial wave of it is already too involved Like what did he do in virtual interviews that he's too involved like that got it so he is though very involved in the hiring process that we all agree he is he yeah well very him he is involved he

he owns a piece in a team he's Tom Brady he's doing he's doing work the way he would I don't know who who involved? Barry involved? He's involved. Like, he's Tom Brady. Okay. Okay, he's involved. Sounds like a lot. You're too close to it, Jeff.

You know, you're two Michigan guys, two pals. Well, it sounds like Tom Brady, whenever he gets, when Tom Brady gets involved in something, he's pretty like not all in. Does feel like that, doesn't it? I mean, I think he hasn't had sugar in like 15 years or something like that. doesn't it? I think he hasn't had sugar in like 15 years

or something. If he's in there running that interview though and being an actual owner, I'd be excited to hear how he questions people, what he's trying to learn about people, who he thinks is going to be the next head coach. Like I'm very intrigued if Tom Brady's making this decision on who he thinks would be the best head coach. Like legitimately, I'm kind of pumped to find that out because Does he want a good play caller culture setter? What is he? He's big Mike McCarthy in play for the rail. Oh, yeah Look it just happened I hadn't heard his name there until now, but it's surely possible a good big Like he's like we need a culture guy in here and he brings in big Mike

You know as and we can find a play caller anywhere. Like, how Tom views it, I'm very, like, very intrigued to see how it works out. I think there are certain guys that absolutely have Tom's respect and curiosity and, look, he's had an unbelievable opportunity this year to go around each week and meet with people. Like, he gets to observe himself who's impressive and who's not. If you're in a different building and you're two different organizations, every week over

the course of 18 weeks, that's 36 different weeks that Fox has paid you to get to know people around the league and to see who has and hasn't impressed you. Just by doing his job himself, he's been able to glean all kinds of insights and information into who he believes are the best coaching candidates out there. And now when they're putting together the list, when they're going through the candidates, he can apply everything that he's seen from this year. I don't know, has Fox done, has Tom done, and I don't know the answer to this, a Lions game yet so far this year? Tom Dunn and I don't know the answer this

Alliance game yet so far this year as he I'm sure believe they did Lions Packers Yeah Did they do Lions Cowboys? I Don't know about assume at 425 Game of the week probably Cowboys 425 on Fox. We assume at some point it was there. I think they did It's time. It's going both Going forward he's gonna beat his hands on in Vegas. Is he gonna stay in the booth or Fox? Yeah, that's his call. I have no idea how he's gonna work it, but I expect him to be involved as the Raiders owner. Yes As a limited owner sounds like he's kind of cheating a little bit

I mean, this is all the conflicts of interest that everybody's been talking about. That's why a lot of people don't think the Tom Brady contract is going to end up being fulfilled by Tom because they think it's going to get too loud. But if he's an actual owner, I'm pumped to watch him. Whatever the case is, good luck Tom. Let's talk about another coach that's name has been thrown into the NFL coaching search even though Chuck Pagano accurately predicted, feels like this might be a little bit of a business play by Notre Dame head coach who just signed a

four-year extension. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shefty, it seems like it is kind of a food gaze, but the Bears have reached out or expressed interest in interviewing Marcus Freeman for their head coaching job. And obviously, you know, with what Notre Dame's doing, I think it probably is more of a business play. But then also a couple weeks ago, you mentioned, you know, keep an eye out for Steve Sarkeesian as well. And when you look at the Cowboys, because they are kind of so late in the game, it seems like a lot of these marquee coaches are almost already spoken for. Do you think the Cowboys potentially would reach out to like one of these hot

college coach coaching names that are up and ultimately Marcus Freeman like he's not even gonna entertain that at all correct? I have heard that Marcus Freeman is happy in Notre Dame he did sign that deal recently I don't know whether that's leverage or not I have no idea I don't have direct information beyond that Steve Sarkeesian is a name that has swirled around out there and NFL circles for weeks now his season's over There were team if there were team that want to talk to him they'd obviously could go to do that and and We'll see whether or not he has interest in going back to the NFL But that's a name that's been out there for a little while

that there will be NFL teams that would have some interest. So we'll see if that actually now happens. Okay, when's the first hiring? Who does the first hiring? New England today, Mike Vrabel. Boom! They're setting off a jet in here, Schafter. I don't know if you're hearing it.

I'm live at the SMP Shark Tank over here. It is, it's been a blast. Good luck tonight. Where are you at? Are you at the game in Arizona? Yeah, I am in, I am in Arizona right now. I am literally going over to the stadium as we speak. As soon as I hang up with you, I only have 26 missed texts and calls here. So we'll be on the phone here and getting

ready for tonight's broadcast Vikings at Rams in Glendale, Arizona. 26 missed calls. Is that producer? Is that like Mike McCarthy's camp? Is that the Cowboys camp? Who would that be on this particular of Reaction Monday? That's a Zito T Tone, everybody wants to know about their own football teams. You got a lot of angry fans, pissed off dealer fans. Nice. What's going on there?

What ends up inevitably happening there? Pittsburgh. My guess would be, they're pretty easy to predict. They're a pretty stable place. So I think if you bet on things not changing all that much, you're probably easy to predict. They they're a pretty stable place. So I think if you bet on Things not changing all that much. You're probably gonna be right and Obviously, they're gonna have to make some changes they've got two quarterbacks who are free agents and

We'll see how that works out All right. We appreciate the hell out of you ladies and gentlemen senior NFL insider from ESPN and miss 27 text messages now we would assume because he talked about the Steelers again Adam Sheffield It's fucking wild in here Pyro going on lights are going. Yeah, I don't know that the shark tank is obviously The home is San Jose sharks. It's a beautiful arena here, but they're testing everything as we speak. I think last week at the Intuit Dome, there was a day off of production beforehand, and the Intuit Dome is so damn great. The Intuit Dome, brand new, a lot of space.

So I think right now is the exact time where everything has to get tested. So going forward, we're going to have to readjust. That is kind of what life is did you see the did you see the piece on Justin her nope Josh Allen on NFL Network game day morning maybe it was about he's from fireball California BAUGH there not fireball fireball California I think in farm he comes from a farm and farming country and everything. I guess his high school coach who was also a wrestling coach basically had this mantra APO which is adjust, persevere and overcome and that's kind of like his life

mantra APO, APO, APO. This was a good piece on him. Talking about his work ethic, talking about how he comes from this tiny town but he played every single sport I guess he wasn't like he was bigger and more athletic than everybody but in high school I mean maybe as a sophomore wasn't playing like the tough guy he was so the coach who was also a wrestling coach took him into the wrestling room and basically they just played kill the man with the ball and Josh always had the ball like that is and they told their story on NFL network, they're like basically we took him into the wrestling the mat room and

Just told him he wasn't allowed to lose the ball and then we threw everybody at him. It's kind of how I took it I don't know how they actually wanted it But then ever since then it's like he takes a lot of pride in his toughness is what his coach said and everything Josh Allen's special talent man. We're watching, we're watching, uh, we're watching a legend here and the way he handles himself and the mocks he has with his teammates and the shit that he talks and the way they fly around in the city of Buffalo, it's like a perfect match. And then that Lamar Jackson and Baltimore marriage, what a beautiful one. I mean, what a beautiful one. I mean what a beautiful one. That city obviously we see the videos coming out of training camp when the entire youth

of Baltimore is at training camp and he's running down the line and slapping their hands and the way he's going to work for them every single year it's like two perfect quarterbacks drafted to perfect places that have gotten behind them in such a way that have led both of their teams to a position of hey Let's go win the big one And everybody obviously talks about Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen Having a rivalry strictly because they've met a couple times deep into playoffs and obviously Patrick Mahomes is one and Joe Burrow Is another guy is gonna have rivalries on the AFC side

It's like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have become the rivalry that it is in the highly anticipated fight this upcoming weekend because we're both like, all of us are thinking which one of these guys is going to be the next one? Which one of these guys is going to finally get over the hump? And I'm eager to watch it. It took a long time for a lot of guys to win their first Super Bowl. And we obviously are in a world and a society and we're a part of it. Shit. We're on microphones every single day

where you gotta judge and you gotta talk and there has to be something to say. And not all the time is it gonna be positive. So both these guys have heard an immense amount of shit talk but obviously have built up massive fan bases. What a perfect stage for the NFL to have next weekend, AJ. Yeah, it is. Was it always this way, like judging quarterbacks

by Super Bowls? Like, you truly cannot get into that next level of quarterbacks like when you're talked about. If you don't at least have one Super Bowl ring. I know Dan Marino is a big guy that everyone talks about. He never got a ring, but he was obviously one of the greats. I mean, now you kind of have to have at least one, don't you, if you're a quarterback, Ty?

Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, that's the whole, that's the Rogers thing. We talk about him being a Mount Rushmore guy, like arguably one of the, you know, two or three most talented quarterbacks of all time, but he only won one Super Bowl. And you look at the Packers and it's like, man, if he would, if he would have won three or four or whatever, then you're, you're putting him, you know, right below Brady. And now it's, it's kind of up for discussion because he only won one. Lamar and Josh. Yeah. What do you think, Pat. Lamar and Josh, yeah, what do you think Pat Lamar and Josh are people not going to continue like I guess put them in that top tier even though Lamar already has two

MVPs maybe a third coming up. Are you are they going to talk about them differently until each of those guys gets a ring? Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's just how it is. That's just literally the conversation because they always got to hold something against you. You know what?

He's a much viable player like three times. Okay, does that matters team sport based team sport? They win a Super Bowl or not then if you want a bunch of Super Bowls, then you didn't win any MVPs this guy stinks Yeah, this guy's just relied on his defense his run game no matter what he's part of the system So he's part of the system Brock Purdy this guy stinks. What are you talking about? But his team what them stinks so there's always gonna be something to bitch about for these two guys. I'm happy we get a chance to bitch about

how damn great they are on the opposite side. The NFL is cooking, obviously college football is on a buzzsaw-like run with how the Orange Bowl and the Cotton Bowl wrapped up as we wrap up our one here in this second hour. We'll have Bill Belichick joining us and I think Travis Kelsey. Wow.

You think? The actor? Zito just said yes, no, yes, yes, the actor Travis Kelsey. Yes, the podcast host Travis Kelsey. Yes. Mount Rushmore tight end of all time Travis Kelsey. We'll be back.

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Our two starts now. Football is the greatest. We're so lucky we get to talk about it every single day. That right there is AJ Hawk. AJ, how's the weather back in the Midwest, fella? It's not too bad. We had a little bit of a little snow, a little cold, but you know, this is what it is. It's January.

We're okay. Yeah. I'll tell you what, it's cold as hell over here, too It's like yeah, the cold or like California cold California cold Miami cold, you know what I mean? I got like those types of things were Definitely. Yeah a little chilly down there in Miami Which is the home of a man who was a nine-year NFL vet and the founder of the all everything DB team ladies and gentlemen Dave J baller of the All Everything DB team. Ladies and gentlemen, Derrick J. Baller. Derrick Butch.

Derrick Butch, member of the All Everything DB team. Derrick Stingley won Hamski for the Houston Texans. How was the weekend for you, pal? The weekend was great, great football. And yes, Derrick Stingley Jr. did do his thing. Now my guy on the other side unfortunately threw four interceptions. So it's been tough defending him this week But this defense over there in Houston led by will Anderson jr. Led by Derek Stingley jr And then last year even on the other side like they did their thing and this is kind of what I was talking about last Week with his ball skills never panicking making great plays on the ball But yeah, I'm excited to watch this defense obviously go up against Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey and the boys up there.

Yeah I am excited to chit chat there with Travis Kelsey and if you go back to the beginning of this dynasty for the Chiefs, I believe it started with the Texans. Is that right? Kind of started with the Texans in the playoffs? Or is it the Titans? That 2019 year, yeah the 19 nothing that was right? Yeah, that was their first Super Bowl I love that the Texans who are representing the AFC South which everybody knows Just wagon. Yeah, that's choo-choo Choo-choo motherfucker. That's a C South Trains coming through don't get in the way cuz the AFC South will have it stay. Okay, that's great Listen to what I say. Hey sway come up all these things Texans are bawling and CJ Stroud looked early didn't look comfortable

But then the reminder was put out Nico Collins exists and he wasn't around all year. He went Hamski con man. Yeah, Nico Collins is fantastic and you thought too like my big thing was hey, of course You know the Texans did beat the Bills But that was when they had Stefan Diggs and that's when they had you know tank Dell healthy who were who were both in the building But obviously in street clothes Nico Collins is unbelievable. Joe Mixon also went off He is a freak of nature and you think aside from the Packers really those teams that added running backs mixing the Ravens with Derek Henry And of course the Eagles with Saquon like though

They are making a huge impact, you know as these playoffs have started so far and you know The teams with those best running backs you got to be careful Especially when you think about these guys going on the road like having Joe Mixon when they go to KC That's going to be massive if they're able to run the ball still Remember Joe Mixon and Stefan Diggs whenever they came over to the Houston Texans said we have reservations and we're late They're talking about for a Super Bowl Aziz Alshayir is back. He punched a guy in the head D,, you see that? Yeah, I think he was going for the ball. You know, things move fast. Definitely going for the ball.

Definitely going for the ball. People have lost their mind about that one. He pushed me in. Dirty player. Well, anything Aziz does, they're going to be watching. I do appreciate that he didn't dial back at all. He still threw that punch. You know what I mean? He still swung that bat. He didn't even I'm playing me I'm this is how a Z's out shy your place football and this is how this is gonna go now I don't know we talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers a little bit

We certainly did but let's go to one half of the talk to table at Ty Schmidt Ty the other devastating loss in the office was the The Packers now buddy. Hey pal Yeah, right. Yeah About a year away, right? Is that we're thinking or or is Jordan love? You know what? His brain working I'll stick with AJ I talked to him a little bit during the game after the game the whole thing and I don't know if he's still feeling The way that he was feeling during that conversation or if he slept on it here a little bit and feels differently tie

About a year or two out. We feel like we're gonna be okay young team young team Yeah, I think year two out is uh is still what i'll stick with the the thing that's so frustrating or that what stinks so much is for my entire life, anytime the Packers choke or get beaten in the playoffs, it's when the offense is putting up 38 points or whatever. But the defense gives up 45 or 41 and they finally fix the defense. Someone tweeted out all the metrics this year of how much better they were year over year since they hired Jeff Hathley

So they finally fixed that but then when they fix the defense and then now it's the offense that can't score I don't think anyone was too surprised I mean with how bad they were down the stretch like it it would have taken a miracle to To beat the Eagles in Philadelphia, But just the way that game started. I mean, they fumble the opening kickoff. They were banged up, but that's no excuse. There are a couple key positions that they need to spend some money on this off season, which isn't something the Packers typically do.

But it just, love made a lot of stupid decisions in terms of the interceptions he threw. It's kind of the same thing that we've been saying all year Like he doesn't know when it's okay to just throw a check down and get six yards as opposed to on first down Just feeling like oh, I got to take a shot here I got to take a shot here and every time he did that he threw a pick It just I don't know it was one of those things and it was kind of like every time they played a good team This year, I mean the score it was 1610 at one point after I was a punt right there. Yeah, exactly

That's another thing, you know two minutes left not not exactly like, you know, they're in a great spot But you go down there and score kick an onside kick who knows but and terrible better I mean John you're supposed to be an exciting white at least wait for the move Not a good pedigree. But the thing about them being the office. Great interception though. Great interception. They're incredibly, they're just super undisciplined.

Super undisciplined. Same thing, a bunch of penalties, stupid turnovers. Obviously in the playoffs you can't lose the turnover battle 4-0 and expect to win. But that's the thing, they only lost by 12 and it was a one possession game for a good majority of the third quarter there so there's a lot of things they need to clean up obviously Jordan Love needs to play much better and in these big games Matt LaFleur needs to figure out how to not get out coach because that that was kind of the story this year too they were 0 and 6 against the Lions Eagles and the

Vikings those are teams that you're just gonna have to beat if you want to win a Super Bowl and they haven't really proved that they've Been able to do that, you know in this new era of the team thus far Big deal got a couple wins against the Bears though, you know, that's good You know, oh, yeah, I forgot about that. You lost at the end of the seat. Yeah, I forgot about anyways Eagles though Jaylen Hertz goes 13 and 21 for 131 yards with two tugs and then 36 rush yards to boot Jalen Hurts obviously fresh out of the concussion protocol hadn't played in a few weeks D Buc what did you see from? Jalen Hurts in this particular game that says yay Super Bowl or nay not sure if he's a guy that's gonna be able to get it done

Saquon is gonna have to be the house for that team Yeah, I still think the the Detroit Lions are the team to be on that side, but they would be right there next to him, in my opinion. Jalen definitely a little rusty, hasn't played in a couple weeks. Looked a little rusty in the past game. I think Dan O put out some clips about maybe being more creative in the past game, helping getting these guys open. Now you got absolute dogs on the outside, but this play right here was a huge, huge place.

Seeing Concero make the check, getting in Dallas, got his hand and letting him do his thing in the open field one on one. So he made the plays that needed to be made and then you lean on that run game with Saquon, Jalen was scrambling when he needed to. Saquon did his thing and then once again, Saquon just being the classy guy that he is, didn't take that all the way to the house. I know it probably killed some parlayes at the end. If he would have got all those yards,

he got that touchdown. But that was kind of the recipe, it seemed like this game. To come in here, run the ball, control the ball, don't turn it over and win this game. Green Bay, I think they wasted a great defensive effort, cause with all the turnovers and things, they still had their team in a position to win this ballgame with how

Good that defense played so they got banged up a lot on offense, too I feel like receivers were going down probably every five plays it seemed like so in a critical situation You're throwing the pass to Heath who couldn't get two feet in and bounce to give yourself a chance So it was tough all the way around for the Packers But I think the Eagles are still prime to continue this run to the Super Bowl. I like this Eagles team. Saquon's so much fun to watch. And also, we like promoting literacy around here.

We have book club. Remember the Aaron Rodgers book club? We had a couple years back. People were saying it was like the second, maybe third largest book club on earth. Oprah, obviously has her book club. Sure. And then there's somebody else big in the book club.

The Catholic Church. And then we. Well, big in the in the book club and then we They put them so they would be there too That now they'd be number one over Oprah's then right? The Mormons got books everywhere Hold on now Reading rainbow was a show that showcase books. I don't know how their book club was. I was a good show. I appreciated that show. That show broke things down enough for me to understand what the hell was going on in books that we potentially had to read for

a class that I wasn't able to get to. AJ Brown read on a sideline was awesome. Then he comes out afterwards all the time. What are you talking about? I do it all the time. Inner peace, you ever felt it? I'm trying to find it. You ever been a part of a football game? Yeah. It's chaotic. There's some doubt, everyone's smile. So I go to page 147. Uh, you know, find my highlighting section and go to a different service. This is actually page 2 here and

we've all had times when everything came together in perfect harmony. Sacred moments when we were totally immense. Immersed, the experience and feel fully alive When these moments something we wish even for a split second we had the courage to something the risky path with all our heart Pursue okay, and we can often though the fuck these writers

And we can often though we're so hard on ourselves amplifying all our failures and regrets that we neglect to see what's still possible a life of freedom filled with deep contentment joy and confidence independent of circumstances we're all human the same deep desires and concerns you drop a ball you read that paragraph right there. You're right back in the game. In the pursuit of extraordinary performance, it's easy to make it a full screen again to succumb to anxiety. I don't know if that was in the book or not to anxiety and pressure because so much is out of your control. When you learn to live a life that is fully engaged, however, then you can perform your best and love the challenge.

Every performance, presentation, or problem you face is an opportunity to learn and grow and vividly experience each moment. You will find as you take this journey with me that your best moments always come from a clear mind and an unburdened heart. Hell yeah, Jim. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah, Jim. That's James. That's Snap. Mm-hmm. Number one best seller now. Hey yeah, Jim. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Jim. That's James. That's snap. Number one best seller now. Hey man, I got one catch for 10 yards, so I need to do something about this. The best marketing situation ever. Yeah, back at the top.

I like this war, though. I just had a drop. Let me go to page, let me go to page two real quick. No, I just had a drop. What do I, I need to go to Jim Murr, 45 paragraph two, yeah, let's get to this one. This one's good. Sometimes you're need to go to Jim Murr, 45 paragraph two. Yeah, let's get to this one.

This one's good. Sometimes you're gonna drop a rock, a ball, a fumble. You're gonna stumble on an opportunity. I like that messaging though. And you're right, D. Butch. Notes have been taken. Things have been highlighted. He's going through that on a daily basis.

He's working on him. I respect it. I respect it. I've never seen this during the game. I've seen guys read books maybe before the game. We always get clips of like Le seen this during the game. I've seen guys read books. Maybe before the game We always get clips of like LeBron after the game On the unlike the first page. So yeah, I like I like the fact that he's actually reading that thing is worn He's got highlights. He's got underlines. I like that AJ's locked in he knows he's aware that the cameras are on on the sidelines

So not losing it not cuz of somebody out about the targets. Yeah, you know people still running with hey he's reading the book he's not engaged he's not this I like I like where AJ's at right now team guy he didn't read page two on a sideline he looked to be a little bit deeper in there oh yeah I don't know what page 47 or 100 whatever he was on is saying page two sounds like an okay thing to be reading on a sideline maybe kickers need to do more that you know maybe kickers need to be like listen you're not the worst fucking person on earth yeah I'm not turn the page you're an okay human being actually and then all of a sudden somebody two feet away from you you know

it's your little battle I love reading on a sideline promotes literacy everybody should be reading find your own inner peace maybe he has found his joining us now ladies and gentlemen is the greatest NFL coach of all time and the greatest general manager of all time he is currently the head coach for the university of North Carolina Tar Heels football team ladies and gentlemen Bill Belichick yeah that looks cool you look cool coach you look cool coach. You look cool. Yeah, you got good to see it Hey Good to see you as well. What are you doing? Are you on the road recruiting again? What's life bringing bill Belichick on this particular Monday coach?

We can't recruit for these three days Monday Tuesday Wednesday those dead days during the NFL are the AFC a convention so no recruiting but out taking care of some other stuff Okay, so the AFC a the American Football Conference of America. I assume is that what that association? Okay, I remember the fired football coaches association Gruden was always watching film the american football coaches association Is clearly what gruden was mocking during the entire thing? Okay, it's all coming together. Maybe get that guy back in the league for more reasons than not Let's talk about you down to unc How do you feel about where the team is and are you watching?

These college football playoffs and trying to see how you can build a team that can compete and beat these squads. Orange Bowl was awesome. Cotton Bowl electrifying four best teams on display. Are you watching and judging or how are you treating all this for college ball right now? Yeah, well I've watched the college games, kind of as a fan from the outside. But we'll take a closer look at them and break them down when we get to the film and get into the all season program.

Most of my focus now is on recruiting at North Carolina. January is the one month when the head coaches at college can be on the road. And so I'll be out on the road most every day in January to do that other than these three days here that are days we can't be recruiting. So you're just casually watching the games. Trying to get things organized. Yep. Okay, how do you feel about putting the staff together?

Cause now you're competing with Vrabel for guys. Is that, have you heard the news? I know you've been on the road here in January. I know you've been recruiting, trying to put everything together. Mike Vrabel is now the head coach of the New England Patriots. That was announced officially. How do you feel about the move? And what are your thoughts on Mike Vrabel is now the head coach of the New England Patriots. That was announced officially.

How do you feel about the move and what are your thoughts on Mike Vrabel since he has become a coach after leaving as a New England Patriot a multiple time Super Bowl champion? Yeah, I think Mike's done a great job. Certainly his entry into coaching was no surprise to any of us that knew him and coached him at New England. You know I talked to him and he was at Ohio State and then when he went to the Texans and then of course at Tennessee and we practiced against them and you know stayed pretty close contact with Mike. So I have a ton of respect for Mike. I think he does a great job. He prepares his teams well.

They're very good in situational football. They're tough. They're competitive. They're smart, just like he was as a player. I think the teams that he's coached and the position he's coached follow very much in his playing style and in his preparation style. So, you know, I love Mike. I love everything that he stands for as a football coach. And, you know, I have a lot of respect for him. Sure. He'll do a great job. There's the clip running around of whenever he ran those Delaya games with more than five minutes left in the clock, he kind of pulled a Belichick to you.

And I think that was the moment that I think the whole world was like, oh, we get not just a meathead who loves a little nicotine. This is also a football genius. Do you remember that moment? And what are your first thoughts when you think back on it? Yeah I remember the moment and the way it was the play was explained to us prior to that by the office the league office was a little bit different than the way and then I thought it was officiated. Yeah and I understood the role we did the same thing earlier that year but the it was kind of between me myself and what my understanding was from the officials on the way that was gonna go.

But yeah, what he did was completely within the rules, as I said, it's something we had done. But that's Mike. Mike does a great job. He changed the game in the Colts on Vanderjets' miss in the opening, started the season opening game when he called the second time out and Vanderjets missed. And then Paulian and the competition committee changed the rule the next week. So Mike's always been one to take advantage of those situations. He's a head hey smart player and coach I think so too and you know, we're all happy that rule was instituted You know, we don't have time just to be calling time out ten can strike and start three consecutive plays Nonetheless, love the way variable operates Taylor the one

He put out a video basically as a heads up to all the Patriots players on what life is about to be like With variable and in there he mentioned. Hey, you need to know Obviously the three keys are the keys to the defense offense and special teams does not matter what side of the ball you're on you need to Know the janitor's name. Okay, because in team meetings He's gonna pop somebody up there and he's gonna put your ass on the spot to know everything that's going on He said your life's gonna suck. Okay boys, it's gonna suck for a while But you are gonna be better because of it in the end Is that similar to how you ran and why are those little things you think so important to running a successful operation coach?

Well, I certainly think it's important to know the people that are in your organization, whoever they are, not just your teammates, but the other people who support you. And you know, just to know the history of the franchise or the team, whatever it is, but that just you know, makes communication and you communication and respect for each other flow much more smoothly. But again, we've always been big on preparation. Mike did that as a player. I'm sure he'll continue to institute that as a coach. And that's part of the player's job, just to be prepared for the opponent, but also

to know everything that you do internally so that you can take advantage of all the opportunities that you have on your team with your teammates, your playbook and so forth. I can't wait to watch. I think we all just assume that the Patriots are about to be all the way back in, of course they are. AJ has a question for you. Coach, I'm sure you've been watching obviously the NFL playoffs and

everything that's been going on this past weekend. We've heard people talk about, hey, just don't beat yourself. Try not to, let's not do things to lose this game. Do you see that playing out when you watch this first round of the playoffs? Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think a couple of these teams, you know, got to feel terrible today.

You know, Green Bay, I mean, fumble the opening kickoff, spot the Eagles seven points. I mean, that's really hard to do on the road against a team like Philadelphia. Then, you know, they miss a field goal, which has been a problem for them all year. That showed up. Tampa, you know, they fumble a handoff

on a jet sweep action play. That didn't really have anything to do with the defense. Then they fumble another short yardage play and screw up the handoff and get stopped and get held to a field goal. You know, that didn't really have anything to do with Washington's defense. It was just bad football. And those are the kinds of plays you look back on when your season ends that, uh,

you say, well, we, you know, we, we really messed those up. Um, you know, Pittsburgh, you know, trying to get the, get their guys on the field on a fourth and one end up with, you know, struggling to get lined up on a short yardage play and, you yards play and give a conversion to Baltimore on that. Those kind of plays where you feel like you beat yourself and they're just really hard to overcome when your season ends that way. I think the number one thing is, as you said, is to make sure that you're doing everything

that you're doing right and that you execute what you can execute and make sure that you don't just hand the game away on something that isn't a great play by the opponent. It's just more of your inefficiency or just screwing something up. It feels like that's a difference between great and good. And ball always has been, always will be, especially in the NFL with the amount of parity. The team that doesn't fuck it up more is normally the team that goes on to win it now speaking of those There's multiple things that popped up in college football with the bye week. Connor has a question for you Yeah coach, obviously the college bye weeks did not bode well for the teams on the buy

But for the nfl the chiefs and the lions, what are their weeks like? This past week and now you know leading into game week? Are they watching all the games? Are they watching the potential teams they're going to play? And are the coaches like is Andy Reid and Ben Johnson, obviously Ben had interviews, but is Andy Reid drawing up a bunch of new plays or what are those bi-weeks like for the 1C's? Well look, it's great to be a 1C and congratulations to Kansas City, Detroit for winning the playoff game last week because that's effectively what happened.

They move on to the next round without even having to play and that's a great situation. But I'll say this, when you're the number one seed, like those two teams were, you have the least amount of predictability on who you're going to play. So if any of the wild card teams win, you could play them, whoever the lowest seed is. If all the wild card teams lose, then you play the lowest division seed. So you can end up playing the four, five, six, or seven seed based on how the weekend comes out. And so I'd say from that standpoint, there's less predictability on who you're gonna play

when you're the number one seed than when you're at other positions. Certainly when you're at the bottom, you know if you win, you pretty much know how those games are gonna match up going forward. But I think it was interesting, when you looked at the Eagles game,

the Philadelphia game against the Green Bay, you saw the Eagles run three or four plays offensively that were really, I would say, playoff plays. They faked the tush push, tried to launch a post down the field and hit a big play on third and inches. They ran a couple of deceptive plays, quarterback runs with hurts, off of action to Barkley knowing that the defense would be keen heavily on Barkley action to Barkley knowing that the defense would be keen heavily on Barkley at this point in the season. So I think that Detroit and Kansas City probably would be working on a couple of plays that they've probably been working on all year, but now saying, okay, here we are coming down

to critical games. What plays can we maybe use that are a little bit different, a little bit of a deceptive? Maybe it's a new blitz from Aaron Glenn or Spags that they've kind of cooked up. Maybe some look that they've been given and now they can give that same look and run some type of different pressure on it. Or maybe it's a punt rush or a fake kick, something like that. I think those kind of plays could come into the, you know, into the action here for those teams because they do have a little bit of time to work on them.

And honestly, those are the kind of things that keep your players interested too. You do something that's a little special, a little bit different, you know, another handoff to Sewell or whatever it is and keeps the practice energy up a little bit. Hey, how come everybody said like the Patriot way, Patriot way is so hard, so tough, which it is and it was obviously, but you pulled out trick plays all the time Is that because the players you had or is it a part of like keeping players like kind of? Interested and also adding little wrinkles for maybe other people have to deal with Yeah, well I look I think those plays bad what I always said to Josh and Josh did a great job of it

Josh McDaniels did a great job of it. We said, you know, going into the playoffs, let's get a play that can either score points, you know, so maybe a goal line pass or something on the two or three yard line, a red area pass or something that's going to gain the yards, gain, you know, a chunk play yards, 20, 30 yards, something like that. You know, I don't want to work on another run that's going to gain three yards. Let's work on something that could really impact the game. And so that came up in the Ravens game in 14 where we ran the double pass, ran a couple of oddball formations. We were down by two touchdowns in the third quarter and were able to come back and tie

it and eventually win the game. So Josh and I always thought about plays that would really, we thought could make a difference in the outcome of the game or could actually score points, you know, get a touchdown instead of a field goal in a close game like that. So look Pat, when you say Patriot way, I don't know what that is. I don't know what the Patriot way is. That's kind of a buzzword that everybody else uses. You know, to me it's about preparation.

It's about, you know, being a good teammate, team building, and then performing well under pressure. That's what winning football games is. I don't, you know, the tag that goes with that is really, I don't know, that's a big marketing tool. I don't know what that is. I believe in preparation, performance, discipline, and consistency. And that's the Patriot way. Boom. I appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen. The greatest of all time, performance discipline and consistency and That's the Patriot way The greatest of all time bill Belichick we appreciate your coach See ya can't recruit these three days. Okay, don't be putting me into any jackpot shit here Pat, please

He's the least there he was going in when we talked to him last week and he was traveling around the high schools I was like, so are you walking right in that front door and just like Hello insert name of high school No, Bella checks here Are you causing a little bit of a scene a little bit of a buzz a little bit of a stir that you could cause? One of you go places he goes. No, that's not really my style. And also it's not legal I'm all out and take pictures with anybody that is underclassmen Anybody that could potentially be a college football player which could be anybody I guess

Good be anybody 25 go be like not allowed to take photos with because then that could be considered or construed as Recruiting somebody that they're not allowed to recruit. That was literally what we said. He's like there's rules for everything We're trying not to fuck up anything We're just trying not to we're trying not getting the dog house with anything especially Now because I think those little tedious things are potentially the only thing That some people at the NCAA are allowed to attack because everything else is kind of wild wild west You know the wild wild imagine him walking in imagine. It's the teachers. It's all the other teachers and principals That's who that's who's gonna take his time wanting pictures because coaches word will spread very quickly

You know when bill I'm sure their word spreads before he gets there Hey, I think I'm belly checks coming then once he's there everyone's peeking out their doors looking checking around They all want Steve's wearing that car heart black long-sleeve shirt Bill's wearing that Trailer right there. He was shooting a commercial right there? Yeah, what is that? I don't know, it was a nice jacket. That Jack.

Was that Ass-Lac? He probably had Michael Jordan. He probably doing something with Jordan. It may be a new billboard at UNC, a bill on it with MJ maybe? Bench pressing, he's benching or something and Jordan's spotting him possibly. Oh yeah, maybe, maybe Jordan is.

Maybe they're golfing in the cold. I don't know why they have that jacket on. Snow golf. Maybe it's, maybe it's,ing in the cold. I don't want to have that jacket on Maybe it's maybe it's a one of the biggest college sponsors. Dr. Pepper Maybe it's a because he's in college now. So all the college companies are gonna want to Affleck that has a flack written all over it, especially with Saban Yeah, and prime who you know might be the new head coach to Dallas Cowboys. I Saw that people are talking about maybe even should er going down there because you got a quarterback on a big contract in Dac you get your door on a rookie contract

Then you got coach prime coaching back in Texas obviously as a former cowboy legend now We're talking are the Cowboys back office in you know, and the way coach prime coaches a lot of people don't give him credit for it He's but he's a hard-ass. He's a bit of a hard-ass and obviously the team overachieved this year They had a lot of talent, but I think they were only scheduled at five and a half wins What was it going into your tone? It was four and a half or five and a half I can't remember exactly it was really what nine or ten. Yeah, whenever it all said and done after winning the ballgame Yeah, nine So

Yeah, not yeah be one other bad bad bad and remember we picked colorado because everybody was playing we said, uh Them boys ain't gonna want to go out like that Sorry mormons, you know the prime time crew is coming Through and they did not instead it was by jake retzloff the jewish quarterback, uh And that by youtube they overperformed this year is what college ball has been awesome this year So good college ball has been absolutely awesome this year. I mean first round of college football playoffs I think everybody was a kind of crop. Yeah

All the home teams did their thing kept it moving but boy orange bull cotton ball delivered I think you know combo delivered in a huge way bowl season without the college football playoffs, the bowl season delivered in a massive way. Like I think there was, I think college ball was fantastic this year AJ, legitimately, legit. The level of play is only getting better and better because the players are getting better and better. And I guess, although people don't love it

that they can transfer and pop around teams, more guys are getting opportunities that may be stuck behind some studs at other schools in the past, I think. So more guys are having opportunities. Some guys, there's less opportunities as well. You're starting, say you're a solid starter, transferring a couple guys, boom. Your starting job is gone.

You might have to find a way to play somewhere else, I don't know. I think what AJ is saying is more players are getting shot to shine. Ain't that right? Yeah, it's pretty awesome. We started with 12 and counting down to two now It is a huge bummer like I feel like that kind of set in yeah this weekend We're like, oh shit like we only have one college football game left We really only have what five six NFL games left like it this time is the best Because of how awesome the football is is the best teams like we're talking about the Bills playing the Ravens next week

That's gonna be unbelievable, but it just blows because we are also staring down like hey Where's this free agent gonna sign in a month and that is kind of what the reality of the situation is It's it's sweet for me because when you have a poopy team This is kind of where your season starts, but when you're just talking about actually watching and, you know, football ending, it's tough. It's bittersweet, if you will. Well, to look ahead through the offseason, not that we need to do that or want to do that.

I think we're going to be in town for the combine this year. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Remember that age? I scheduled our vacation right around the only thing that happens in our city. The NBA All-Star game. Well, we planned ahead. year, we planned ahead. That's right.

That's right. We looked ahead and I don't know if it means anything to be honest, a lot of unanswered emails going from our end to their end. I don't know how it's gonna go at the combine. I know we're in the same city as the combine. So I think that is, I think we will certainly be able to breathe the same air.

I think people will stop by. I don't know if we're gonna be at combine though, just as a age we're pitching. Let them come here. To be at combine. Okay. Up there on the terrace. Would we have to whisper though?

It's right behind. Would we have to be quiet and speak like we're at a golf event? Yeah, I mean, that's normally what I do, right? In the kind of, it's kind of normally how it goes. I think they know what's coming, you know, if we're coming in there. But with the action behind us, you know, all the NFL teams, they just have all their suites there. So we can potentially just get a GM just to accidentally wander right over to the set. Like I think

combine week with where we are now, with the relationships we have around the league, if we're able to just get in there, I it could be awesome and I still have hope but Who's not answering emails? Who do we need who do I hmm? I reach out down here's down. Here's the thing and And we talked about this being a problem with our particular business with the way we run uh-huh It has allowed us a lot of freedom to saying do whatever we want But whenever you do that every once in a while there's a stray go fuck yourself to this person or One today's person directly to their face and then those people all of a sudden guess what they do throughout their careers

well, they do they they move on up in the positions of power and All of a sudden you wonder how somebody that dumb could get put in that position That's what you're thinking but on the other side they're thinking hey, this is the person you're gonna have to And it's like well We ain't gonna be able to do that because four or five years ago I typed up an email that I thought was one of my best laying out potentially, you know Read it to all the faults of see read it to crowd, you know, good pop good pop from crowd I think basically every time is that true boys

You got to do that though age that I don't love doing it but every once in a while you got to tell somebody who's terrible at their job that they're terrible at their job and that you Don't want to work with them ever again strictly because they are terrible at their job and that you think they're a disrespectful prick and the way they talk is not the way you should talk to anybody And then you re-edit that and you google some other words that are synonyms of words So then you really start typing up an email that at the end of it basically gets the point across Go fuck yourself. You are a piece of trash And then you find out three four years later. Well, that is actually the gatekeeper

for anything you potentially need to do and they did read the email and it probably was warranted but they don't see it that way and that's just that's life in the game you know that's that's kind of been our business since the beginning and it'll continue but it has affected us it has affected us on that note i would like to let the world know I was not trying to murder Kyle Brant like that. I think whenever they put us on the split screen it looked a little bit more combative than if I was just speaking to the entire thing. But Kyle Brant not knowing who Lil Wayne was and then talking to Lil Wayne like, you got talent man. I was impressed. I couldn't take it. As a fan of Kyle Brant, I don't think we're technically friends, because I don't know if we've ever hung out before, but as somebody high energy white in the football world, watching

I have a lot of simpatico with Kyle Brandt. When I watch him do his stuff, I'm like, this dude is a talent. When he was talking, the way he was talking to Lil Wayne, I like, I just couldn't take it. So I had to, you know, I had to let him know that that was absurd and that we can't be doing, he didn't know he was talking to like Metallica or like Guns N' Roses or like the Beatles of, he was acting like Lil Wayne. He got a couple, oh, you done it. When did he talk to Lil Wayne? Cause I saw you, I didn't see the Lil Wayne, he like Lil Wayne. He got a couple. Oh, you got it. When did he talk to Lil Wayne? Because I saw you.

I didn't see the Lil Wayne. He interviewed Lil Wayne. It was earlier with Colleen Wolf. They were doing a pick segment. Lil Wayne's on every week on this show. Kyle Brand is not. Lil Wayne's on every single week, seemingly, on the show. They do a game, like a late night show game.

And then he also makes picks or whatever with Colleen. And this time Kyle Brant went in there and Kyle put out that tweet was like getting to work with Lil Wayne. What song shall I see? It's my first time here. He's like your fans are rabid. It's like Kyle Kyle come on man. Come on man. Come on man was all I was thinking so then I just kind of went with it and As my brain was rolling it was like I can't believe this is happening I feel like somebody's got to stick up for little Wayne here a little bit and Not the little Wayne needs it obviously 26 time Grammy nominee has a couple songs with over 600 million streams a billion streamer

On Spotify, so just somebody being like I was in front you Got some talent man outside can't have it, but I love Kyle Brent. I'd like to let the world know that Legitimately, I just thought I had to speak up for an era that got a chance to experience the Wayne train on every single song from about 2004 to 2010 now joining us now ladies and gentlemen He's an icon Okay, not just in the sports world, but in the world world. Because how he has represented our sport in gentleman around the world with his chivalry and excitement and loyalty to his partner has been nothing short of fantastic. You would think, how can

this guy get any better? Oh yeah, he's a Mount Rushmore tight end. Gonna go down potentially is the greatest of all time. He has won Super Bowl after Super Bowl, looking to win three straight for the first time in the modern era from the Kansas City Chiefs. Tight end, ladies and gentlemen, host of the New Heights podcast, Travis Kelsey. Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! All right, gang, it's been a while, baby. We miss you, man. We miss you, man. We've been watching, though. You've been dominating. We miss you, man. We miss you, man. We've been watching though. You've been dominating. We miss you.

We love you. How are you doing? Walter Payton, man of the year for the Chiefs, continuing to make the world a better place while breaking records. How are you doing, brother? My honor. I'm doing good, man.

We're fired up, man. We got the Houston Texans coming into Arrowhead this weekend and man, ain't nothing better than NFL playoff football, baby. I've been fired up all week. Okay so let's talk about it in college football have you been playing paying any attention to the college football playoffs. Of course I have baby come on now.

Football is going on I'm watching it man especially when the guys are making a run at it you know what I mean. Ohio guy man I'm cheering for at it, you know what I mean? There you go, Ohio guy. There's an Ohio football guy, man. I'm cheering for all Ohio football, baby. Obviously, I think we all are because how cool that team is and in the moment that they were in. But the college football playoffs, every team that had the bye ended up losing.

Now, granted, it was like three weeks before their first game. You're coming off a bye. You guys are no stranger to that. How did you spend the bye? How does the team feel? And how does your old ass feel at this moment going into I'm fired up and I'm feeling 22 all over again, baby. Let's go. Oh, yeah. Fire me up. I'm about you. I'm feeling 22. Hey, she had us do this thing trap. She had us do this thing right here. I was hoping you'd call the reference baby. I'm ready to rock and roll man. The biggest thing for me is trusting Coach Reed.

He's been doing this a long, long time. And when it comes to getting the bi-week, we've had a few of them over the course of my career. So for me, it's just making sure we put the pads on at least one time throughout the week. Make sure we get our physicality in and get that in check. Play with some low pad level throughout the week. And then on top of that gets put your feet up man Watch some football and get ready for some for some playoff action

God agent does it matter who you play Trav? Obviously you watch the games and playoff games you ever think about okay We match up better with this team with that team. Did you ever do that anytime in your career? I would assume you you don't and also are you gonna be you know punking some kickers out of their warm-up situation? I don't know I don't know what you're talking I felt like he was trying to punk us he was you were in the right group. I was just defending my guys I was making sure you know Pat's ankle was good I was making sure my guys had had some space you know no I think I think I've never really gave it much of a thought in terms of

who we should play or who I want to play. You know, I just want to I just want you know, whoever whoever we got to give us the best ever man. I love I love going up against the best and in that challenge week in week out man. So I know we're going to get Houston's best man. It's a hell of a football team. Houston's obviously had a year that's been like this a little bit.

Then last game of the year, they beat the hell out of the Titans and they get a massive win over the Chargers. Your guys this season, even though you're the number one seed in the ABC, number one seed in the best record in the entire league again, as back to back Super Bowl champs. We haven't got a chance to chat with you much. Obviously we've watched New Heights. All anybody who said is this team ain't good.

This team ain't good. This ain't the same chiefs team, undefeated at one point, 15 and one at one point, number one seed in the AFC. Have you heard all that noise? And what is this year's team like verse maybe years past? Well, we're finding different ways to win and more ways to win early on and throughout the season.

I think last year we dealt with finding ways to lose and you know, you can learn from both, but I'm learning, learning from the games you win is a whole lot more fun. And I think we got a lot, a lot of confidence in this team and a lot of guys that are willing to go that extra mile, man. And we've definitely heard all the chatter and guys like, Rex Ryan, saying that this team can't win in the playoffs and he's seen it before. And we hear everything, but at the same time, we know what's real and what's in this building.

And that's guys that wanna be accountable for the one next to them and are gonna keep finding ways to be accountable week in week out. Rex pissed off the Texans too last week. He said the Chargers had a bye week playing against Houston. Rex also pissed off the Chiefs. Rex, keep doing it Rex. How fast, basketball. Keep doing it.

Great work. Let's talk about your team before the boys have their questions as well. Patrick Mahomes, obviously another year he cemented as one of the goats, just like you. Great work. Let's talk about your team before the boys have their questions as well. Patrick Mahomes obviously another year he cemented as one of the goats just like you. What have you seen from him this year that's different or is Patrick Mahomes now found exactly who he is leadership playing style everything like that? Well I've seen I've seen him weather the storm you know everybody's uh mentioning you know uh the protection and who we've had up front we I think we figured that puzzle out.

And on top of that, I've seen Pat weather that storm and become better because of it. I think when the team needs him the most, he steps up in ways that he hasn't before. And it happens year in, year out. And it's just so much fun to be a part of be a part of the team with him Because he's always gonna take the bull by the horns and be the most accountable be the one that puts it on himself More than he puts it on anybody else and that's true leadership right there, man

He's awesome to watch you you both or when something needs to happen He's gonna do something absurd and then he's gonna find that big handsome bastard from Ohio He's gonna do something absurd and then he's gonna find that big handsome bastard from Ohio wearing 87 who's running a Travis route. D Butch has a question for you Trav. Yeah Trav, we got Mount Rushmore guys all over the place up there. Talk about you, Pat, like Spags, Dave, and then obviously Andy Reid, your head coach. What separates Andy Reid from the other guys? I feel like he always has you guys prepared for every situation.

Is it the competitive practices? What goes on into the preparation with you guys, week in and week out, that you're always prepared in any moment to win a game in any type of way? I think you're onto something. His competitiveness and his ability to challenge guys, and that's not an easy thing to do, is to challenge grown men in a way that's respectful and a way that you can get the best out of them. I think he relates to everybody

in such a way that he gains that respect as you're in as you come into the building just by being relatable and with that being said I mean we were in full pads and going ones versus ones last week and that's the type of competitive practices that are gonna get you ready for the playoffs, knowing that every single week of the playoffs, it gets a little more physical, gets a little bit more faster as you get deeper and deeper. And it's just, I love the guy for so many reasons, but his ability to challenge everybody week in, week out

just makes everyone that much better. You got, tuck in every, right? We always chat about how like Andy Reid's an accountability driven coach. It's like at practice, it's always just get said, but I don't think I've ever actually heard or not. We're tucking in jerseys. We're doing the whole thing around the building. Like that is Andy Reid old school type. Oh yeah. Old school, old school mentality, kind of a military feel to it. Um're gonna look sharp as you go to it But he's kind of gotten a little it's kind of it's kind of relaxed a little bit on that I think he gets he gets he might be prejudiced towards skinny guys because he gives the the big boys the ability to keep

the shirts on top Well, he knows big guys. Let's just get them to Sunday. Let's just get these dudes to Sunday. Let's win Ty has a question for you about that beautiful city you play football in. Yeah, Travis, a lot was made last year during the playoffs against the Dolphins about how fucking cold it was. You know, you had people getting hypothermia in the stands and stuff like that. And obviously the Dolphins couldn't deal with it. We have a winter storm ripping through the Midwest right now.

What's it supposed to be like weather wise? Do you know this weekend? And would you prefer a situation like that where you're lining up out there with a stack of dimes, but you know you got a team from Houston or from a warm city coming in that's probably not going to be able to handle the climate the same way you guys are going to be able to? I'm not going to lie, man. I'm an Ohio football guy, baby.

I love it when it's just cold and snowy and you just get all the elements, all the elements mixed into one. And I'm not gonna say that I'm hoping for that, but I definitely love it when it's because it adds a little bit more to how dramatic the game can be or at least feel. But at the end of the day, I don't care if it's raining, snowing, if it's at Arrowhead somewhere else in the Walmart parking lot. You can put the roll the balls out and let's play some football, baby. Is there gonna be an aura in that place a little extra? You know we're talking about.

You know where's all. Yeah, you know it baby. You know it's playoff football man. Hey, is she undefeated? Hey, she rules in that stadium I just want to let you know a live betters do I just want to let you know a live betters do They see her walk into that stadium immediately open the phones like yep Chiefs are about to win. I mean that is just literally the feel what you two are. Hey, you're a gentleman pal

You need to know that you continue to represent football in a beautiful way. We appreciate you legitimately Represent the boys man. Just trying to represent the boys So many fuck boys out there. I've heard about them all because my wife now I've listened to all the albums I've heard about them all I appreciate you dude you and also I think there's one coming where it's like gonna be great like hey Guy good thing, you know, like that'll be great in my house guy good thing you know like that'll be great in my house you know what you I don't know there might be a few have you heard any have you heard any do you get a are you a test here you know I can't I can't say I hear music everywhere okay let's just say you're hanging out say you're hanging out have a little dinner

no have a little dinner all of a sudden the creative juice sparks in the absolute beast that you're sitting with Who is going to go down as maybe the most famous icon in the history of music and she starts thinking something and you go Oh, I like that. Are you are you a are you a motivator at every single time? Are you uh, come on now, you know it, you know it. I don't I don't I'll never I'll never chime in But you already know it's it's full. I'm I'm I'm here to support it I'm here to see where it can go. You know what I mean? And I'll tell you where it went that stadium was bananas that we were Lucas oil state we were talking about early when you said you're feeling 22 they had those lights on their arms She had every single person and it felt like it was moving the actual state. It was electrifying trap

I mean, I can't it was moving the actual state. It was electrifying trap. I mean I can't it was awesome I know you have a good thought the European crowds were crazy man But I'll tell you what man Lucas oil that I got to go to the last night over there in India and they were Lit they were going nuts They were more they were I mean, I think I've seen that thing rocking when the culture plan They might have they might have had that thing rocking even more might have i mean okay yeah i think i think that's a definite brother i don't think you got a i don't think you have the question i think you can say definite uh speaking of off the field

before we let you go we know you have a lot of work connor has a question for you yeah travis also representing on the silver screen happy gilmore too you are now part of the Sandman squad, I assume. How was that? How was working with Sandler? And how many lines are we working with here after your incredible debut on FX as well? Man, I appreciate that. I'll tell you what, man, that was a dream come true. I thought SNL was gonna be the peak of my acting and

showman or entertainment career. Working with, you know, Happy Gilmore himself, the Sandman and Happy Productions, it was off the chain, man. They're so professional and yet so fun to work with. I felt like I was working with like the Andy Reid of the acting world, man. And he is every bit as cool off the screen

as he is on the screen, man. And that was a dream come true man That was awesome. I mean, I believe a few scenes. I got I got a pretty pretty hefty load in there. Oh hefty load Okay, yeah, maybe hey we up for any awards in this entire thing we think mate what is that called? Is it best new actor. Maybe what? I don't think I'm I don't think I'm up to up to those I don't know that caliber of acting yet, and I don't even know if I'm in that much of happy good might even be

You know after loads for an award After loads get awards hefty loads that certainly did Did you guys play any hoops in your downtime? Yeah, in your downtime? Did you take any oops from the sand, man? Man, I wish, I wish. I was only there, I was there on the bye week, so I didn't get too much time to really hang out, but you already know we gotta get on the court

with the sand, man. Hey, the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. We can't thank you enough for being awesome, and thank you for swinging by brother. Keep crushing life. Always love coming on here with you guys, man. You guys are the best. We'll catch you.

How's new heights? How's new heights? I didn't even ask. How's new heights? We love it. We're rolling baby. You guys are great. We just had another great Will Ferrell on there last week,

man. It was cool as hell. Just chopping it up with him talking about Frank the tank and anchor man and everything, man. It was awesome. And then Walter it up with him talking about Frank the Tank and Anchorman and everything man. It was awesome. And then Walter Peyton man of the year giving back to the world making the world a better place while growing a fantastic beard right now. Is this playoff beard?

Yeah, just a little playoff beard. It's gonna get real ugly if I make it to the Super Bowl. Like your brother. Do you have like your brother's beard too there if you wanted? Yeah, it gets a little just a little different shades right there. Just a little flavor saver right here Yeah, it looks great. Can't wait to watch it all the way through another Super Bowl. I hope you're the man ladies and gentlemen Travis Kelsey He's feeling 22 dude, yes wins wins the new happy Gilmore come out should ask I think it's this year summer

Probably yeah, so July 4th These summer do summer movies do well this one. Well, is it going straight to streaming or is this going? Yeah, as far as I know it was made for Netflix But I could see that being the kind of thing where it's in theaters for a couple weeks and then didn't say But I could see that in the kind of thing where it's in theaters for a couple weeks and then didn't say Ten-10. Yes. Yeah, he did. Yeah, cuz if the movie theater gimmick, we don't need it, you know Yeah, hey, I appreciate you just make me up charge and then send it to the movie theater Make me pay an extra ticket worth 12 bucks 1520 whatever the hell it is on top of it so I could stream it at my house and send it to the theater

Let it count as the box office. I there's no reason that I gotta leave my house in 2025 to watch any of these movies. Amen Tom Whoa, Nick, I still want movie theaters to exist though. No, you got a great idea there That's a good compromise for everybody. They do it with the rentals now where it's like you can rent a movie That's still in theaters, but it is like 20 bucks It's not a media. I think happy happy Gilmore to sure it could go straight to Netflix Okay, some of the Tom Cruise is starting it. That's that's made for the big screen. Yeah Like you know, you need to go see that on IMAX

I mean you need to go see on IMAX if Bradley Cooper's in it We're going to watch that on the big screen, you know Because because Coop's in it if if our guy Glenn is in it bingo Probably if it's streamable gonna watch it if it's meant for streaming and it's a series gonna watch it But if it's a movie, it's a movie theater gonna go there. But Nick you want to kill all movie theaters I don't want to kill movie here. I like a good little date night lay down I like the date night full lay down seats now. It's way better than it used be full lay down. I can't oh, yeah, I'm asleep. I'm asleep Yeah, do it take one nap. I don't need great date night. I'm gonna nap you watch a movie you like this is perfect We're doing it. I guess not dating. I'm talking about my kids. I take my kids to the kids movies

I take a quick 40 minute nap you don't like watching the movie I love it, but I could fall asleep through my own if you show me a video of my own death I could still fall asleep through Excuse me. What yeah, I was oh, how'd you fall asleep? I could fall asleep through anything How long is your death for your own death? Oh, I would somebody what do you what is that even? I don't think I fully Hey, this is when you're gonna die and how you're going to die if I'm tired I will fall asleep at some point throughout that video

I don't so they can't capture your attention if they're telling you exact information that you're gonna die and how you're going to die if I'm tired I will fall asleep at some point throughout that video. So they can't capture your attention if they're telling you exact information that you're gonna need to know I love that about you that's why you should never drive and the fact that you drove over to Indianapolis today to be in a Thunderdome we're very grateful for this show will continue on ESPN plus Disney plus YouTube and TikTok live which is still going still going and we'll continue over there. We'll see you tomorrow for Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. What's he gonna say?

We shall see. Raw on Netflix tonight, wild card tonight. Have a good one. Think I really nailed that one, boys. I feel like. Well done. In the history of those things, I was in the middle of that one.

I'm like, this one's a one, you know? And then I finished it with a little less sauce than I could have hoped for. So I dropped it, probably seven, probably seven out of 10, you know, and then I finished it with a little less sauce than I could have hoped for. So I dropped it, eh, probably seven, probably seven out of 10, you know, but those things are all happening in my head while I'm speaking. I hope everybody understands. You reminded me that there was a playoff game tonight. I completely forgot. So that was, that was a nice little reminder on your sign off. You want to know something that was fun, fun little game. I bet I could, I could take a guess Go ahead you also Wait, you either didn't know it was Monday

Or you also didn't know there was a game tonight. Well, I know it's Monday because it's Monday night raw, brother I obviously knew that Last night and yesterday what day of the week it was as we had football just non-stop Completely forgot about that wild-card game until Eighth of a second before it came out of my mouth obviously because this is a big deal Vikings Rams is a good game This is a very good game, especially with where this Rams team is. I think a lot of people are thinking that maybe Maybe the Rams have a lot better chance to win this game than a lot of people are giving them credit A lot of people are saying wait Stafford Puka and the boys are healthy and rolling, and we know the Minnesota Vikings have been electrifying, but if that defense for the

Rams is able to get a few stops and Matthew Stafford is able to be opportunistic on the offense and go score some, hold the phone. And it happening over there in Arizona, I know that takes it out of being, whose house? Rams house. I don't think anybody thought it was going to be Ram's house anyways. Minnesota Vikings fans infiltrate that place probably very quickly and that becomes a Skoll chant quick in LA. Now it's like understood that this is probably going to be a lot of Minnesota Vikings fans. I think that Matthew Stafford led LA Rams, understand what they're doing for the city in which they represent and everything that's going on. I think

this is a nice getaway for them away from the chaos that's been taken away in LA. It's almost like a bowl week. You know, Schefter said like a Super Bowl, but obviously nothing compares to what a Super Bowl week is like for teams, but it is like a bowl game whenever you take a trip away and it's only you and maybe your close family and there's no distractions and although the world is potentially in a much different place outside of that building inside you're just locked in on ball I think moving to get into Arizona actually helps the Rams more than it hurts the Rams but that doesn't mean I don't like the Minnesota Vikings tonight with Vanginke in that B-flow defense able to

absolutely cook AJ Yeah, speaking we see a helmet right there with the Guardian cap fall off and I don't want to detract from the game But you see yesterday Guardian cap Concussion we had happen. Yeah, what unfortunately? Concussion no, I can't I can't Because wait that can happen scary that was very scary for real Yeah, it was very scary was very very different game than the game that's happening tonight that I was just talking about but I do appreciate Pop off the helmet I don't know if you can see it or not

It got me to the Tampa Bay guy the big offensive lineman that has it but it's always so obvious The guardian cats are always so obvious. What's that tone? I said that one blends right in the Tampa Bay bus Guardian caps are some of the best. The helmets look like they're your cowboy hat on top of a helmet. The Guardian Caps. It's just like, you want me to look at it. It is a zoom in feel to it. But B-Flo in a Vikings defense could potentially have a day against his Rams offense.

D-Butch, how does B-Flo's defense kind of match with what Matthew Stafford and Rams have cooking? I mean, they mix it up now with that offense is Puka. Puka is the guy that you have to stop. He is the game record. They do want to run the ball too. But B-Flo mixes it up and they intercept the ball to a higher clip than anyone else. So if it's one, I guess,

throwing it aside for Matt Stafford is throwing interceptions or pick sixes on this stage. But if you look at this game, you look at the head coaches, two very, very good head coaches, especially on the offensive side. Two good defenses, I think the Rams defense is a lot younger, great upfront against the run, but probably could be exposed a little bit in the past game. And I don't see him blitzing as much as we saw like Aaron Glenn do and makes Darnell very very uncomfortable

So I don't know which which way this game's gonna go. I think it'd be a great one though. I Do too like I'm legitimately befuddled about how tonight goes. I don't think I've even made a pick yet tone Where's all the money at for this particular game? Oh Vikings and Rams Monday night wild- card game, which a lot of people aren't happy about. I've seen ex-players talk about how stupid the Monday playoff game is. It's like, I understand the broadcast is going to be amazing and it's a prime time game and it's Monday night football and it's part of a deal.

We get it, we get it, we get it. But even if you move them to Sunday instead of Saturday, early game on Sunday, whoever wins this, it's like, why would you risk would you risk a less people aren't throwing about the Monday night but I'm I'm excited there's a prime time game on D much I'm excited people aren't pumped though about the scheduling and the rest and everything after that I can see why makes sense you you you need to disadvantage and then you got to go up in you know see one of the best teams in the next round so yeah at least have them play on Sunday they're playing on Saturday right aren't they isn't the Viking no not no Sunday three

o'clock okay I think okay I think Sunday that's correct okay they already played too earlier in the year this was the Darnold face mask and the game Viking Tram Thursday night Thursday night yeah and then also I believe the there was a report that the Rams have a photo of MCDC telling Kevin O'Connell after last Sunday night's game. Hey, we'll see in two weeks So the Rams are very pissed off to getting counted out and granted now the commanders won Even if the Vikings were to win, they wouldn't see the Lions actually Yeah, yeah, but I guess MCDC did say that Rams you got no chance tone What are the better saying who's winning 54% are on the Vikings?

Hmm close. All right, so Let's make our picks shall we and this week's table. I'm sorry guys. I was just gonna say this weekend favorites were three and two Against the spread the under was four and one and the public went four and one for the majority of those picks public one four and one for those picks AJ and I both went three and two I did not see the updated graphic I want four and one I picked the Broncos I guess to cover Yeah, yeah, it looked like they were going to early seven nothing brother seven three

They even had the lead made Tyler Bascom out and kick the field go hold a second Or the Broncos can be able to do this thing Bo Nicks connects for a long ball Oh my god the Buffalo Bills we knew they didn't have enough talent. They shouldn't have traded everybody away They should have fucking paid somebody the bills lose again 31 straight points 31 7 everybody shut the fuck up Yeah, what the bill said that's really what the bill said awesome. What did D Bucs go? I didn't see down there at the bottom D Bucs. What did you? Saw bad boys everybody about 500. We'll make a money Hey So bad boys everybody about 500 we'll make a money Even three to hey

I'll tell you what go boys. Good to be me on this graphic, but I am happy that we're all about 500 We're all about 500, you know cuz them other shows Yeah, yeah Well, and he was kind of flip-flopping he almost went to the other side on a couple of those so I'm glad he you know stood Pat and Three and two not bad. not bad. Nobody everybody over 500. You kidding me good seeing the board the most important time of season Let's have another night like that. Yeah, right. Let's yeah, let's have another one of those Vikings Rams Vikings two and a half point favorites in Arizona taking on Matthew Stafford and the Rams 8 p.m. Eastern on ESPN and ABC.

Peyton and Eli will be doing a manning cast on ESPN too. Who are the guests? Have they announced the guest yet, boys? Where's the no guest for Playoff? Bill and, it's only two guests, which is good. Jared Allen will be on. Hopefully he's on a horse. That'd be sweet.

Bill Belichick will obviously be on for the first quarter. He's prepared. He's on a, seemingly in a movie trailer set right now. He's shooting a commercial or just maybe that's what his house looks like. Maybe he lives in that. Could be. Down there maybe. Just grind it. Yeah, just like Jim Harbaugh. Just like Jim Harbaugh lived in an RV out there in LA. Remember whenever he became a Chargers head coach rough ending to the Chargers season by the way People are killing Herbert right now boy, and I heard you say it earlier Daris It's tough to stick up and be a Herbert guy right now for the last few days

Let's not look past the incredible year that he had he had a bad game. Yeah, that's gonna. Hey, that's gonna happen, right? That's why we need to be viewing his D bus That is that is correct and not and why we need to be viewing this, D-Buck? That is correct. And you also need to view it as, hey, let's get some more talent on the outside. I think that was the conversation coming into this game. And all year long, even though they were winning games, it was kind of like, hey, they haven't beat a ton of good teams yet. But yeah, I think nine of his 14 completions with the lab, McConkey, who almost had 200

yards receiving. So get some more weapons for him on the outside but I think they will be just fine going forward in the hardball era. Congrats to Lad McConkey he ended up with the most receiving yards a rookie has ever had in a playoff set I do believe. 197 yards including a very long one there in the fourth quarter, but then Blocked extra point two points go the other way never seemingly had any momentum or any thought that yeah We're gonna win it company not a terrible year there for the charges

No better than a lot of people thought they would yeah, they're buying schedule. They haven't really Had a schedule. I'm sorry they some of the team is yeah for sure What do you mean? I just you know There's a lot of comparisons between to and Herbert all the time And you know if to had a game like that on Saturday that Herbert did Twitter would have fucking exploded. Are you doing the you're doing the hey? Let's make sure we act the same towards all parties no matter who they are thing Is that exactly D butch knows? Oh, yes

I was watching that game with gum see gum on all Saturday. He was he trust me What was the name was the last quarterback for the Chargers throw for Stan Humphreys? Yeah, okay, San Diego Chargers legend Didn't do it didn't to a throw three picks against the Texans this year. He did throw three. Yeah, they throw four Are you defending or not here? How many how many turnovers Chargers force eight turnovers and two playoff games? They win at either of those games cheese low weights Did they did they blow what were they up on the Jags out of the first? Well, yeah, I take it on the shins every day for two of us. So good things.

Chargers. Chargers are ahead of schedule. They're a good football team. But also people do. And he would like to have Justin Herbert should be hold accountable for playing like shit. What do you want him to do? What is supposed to do to not throw four interceptions? Kill him.

When you hold him accountable, when you hold him accountable, when you hold him accountable, thank you for doing what you're doing. We appreciate you doing that. That's going to make it better. It's going to make her better. Don't be so in the McCombs. Nobody else wants to. We shout to the chargers.

You know, there was a couple of times where I thought to myself, man, if Kenan Allen was on his team, maybe, you know, just, and they'll be able to do that going forward All right. Let's make some picks. Shall we here on this lovely wild card monday? There's one final game of wild card weekend happening vikings and rams Gumps, did you see all the records? Did you see mine? Aj's d butch and the other guy Dan for steve's record on the weekend the other guy. Yeah Form one pretty good. Thank you. I feel pretty good about it. I can't believe the Bucs lost that game They threw that thing away. What happened was their center doing? Yeah, what happened there?

Seemingly the center timing was off out of nowhere and there was somebody yesterday, too There was a guard for the silent count forgot what the count was, you know, we always talked to like AJ or a Q I mean where he's like, here's the center's job got to get the play call got to get everything like that But also there's a fumble obviously in the fourth quarter That was one of the massive errors that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers made late in this game and the Washington commanders Took advantage of but like having to remember what the count is on is a massive part of the center's job. Then when they go to silent count,

the guard has to remember what the count is on while also remembering the play. And I forget what game it was yesterday. Guard looks back, does the arm thing, and then the guard literally falls backwards and nobody else moves. And I just thought to myself like, oh, that's a whole nother added.

Like Hey, we're going on three of me's as opposed to also having to do it. The silent count changes games. What happened there at the end with Tampa Bay in the center, snapping it and just Baker and everybody else at that's being at home too. And having on the road would be one thing, but it happened twice at home and have it. But commanders five straight wins last Possession of the game last play of the game dogs pretty impressive Jane. Dave. I like unreal so good Lions don't like playing against mobile quarterbacks either Foxy knows

100% facts ever my favorite bet of all time for the last probably three four years has been opposing teams quarterback rush yards And I'd say it's hitting at a pretty good clip and I'd say Jaden Daniels is the most mobile quarterback We've played all year, so this can be very very interesting on Saturday night Jaden Dana was a real deal brother. I mean he has D butchers a couple times he was making decisions where I'm like, damn, what a decision. And then there were sometimes he was getting the edge like in the fourth quarter to seal the game pretty much. It was third down.

Tampa still had a timeout. He gets the edge, picks up the first down. This thing's going to end on a banked in field goal. I don't think they were expecting banked in field goal, but he gets this edge here. He's supposed to be tackled down, supposed to be down, gets the edge, gets first down, had he play stays in bounds and understands just want it with his moxie and his confidence Malik neighbors was there celebrating alongside of him It feels like his teammates love this guy, you know, like he is he is everything and for Gonzalez here I saw a lot of people talking, you know, obviously he stands like Cristiano Ronaldo before his field goals, which is

Excellent. I love that. He does that a little swagger, a little moxie for Alana. He banks, I want home, obviously. How you doing? Keep it moving. We win the game. Great snap, great hold there by Tress Way. A lot of people talking about all his nervous ticks seemingly before he does his kick.

He has the helmet in the fix of the hair one. He has the socks where he fixes his socks and his cleats. I don't know if he does this on every single attempt or if this was just this particular attempt because of how big of a deal it was. How often are we paying attention to Gonzalez's actions there? And then the helmet one was the one that really drew a lot of attention because he doesn't have a lot of hair that's fixable so every time he would touch his helmet

then do this and then he would do it again. Is it time? Nope not time yet. Let me go ahead and do this and then he I think he gives it one more go Yeah, and then Then he kind of almost one more They caught it all and they captured it all and then he put it on All right So I think what he was trying to do

I think he probably does something of this nature before every single kick and I think as he was walking timing wise was trying To figure out the perfect timing on when he thought it was right. He's not the only one though that has built up these things to do before a kick. Because you've got to remember, kicking is such a mental thing, you're trying to get yourself into the same exact mental frame and mindset every single time so you can execute something that is dependent upon you being this accurate while you're hitting a ball. So people develop a lot of these things

I used to lick my fingers before I punted because I didn't want to drop the ball and I guess it was kind of a Nervous tick because I would feel if my fingertips were dry and if they were dry at all my meat I was like, oh fuck. I'm about to fumble this ball I'm so so I'd lick it then if we didn't snap the ball quick enough. I like it again There's videos of quarterbacks. I think licking their fingers a lot, could be considered a nervous tick, could also consider being, I wanna feel perfect before this particular rep. It's not just in football,

it happens in other sports as well. Obviously golf, we have the video of Harmet, he does the Waggles, which really became a part of the conversation whenever he was becoming like a top three golfer in the world, and we were trying to watch it on TV, and it was impossible, Gumps. It was tough to watch on TV because all you keep thinking is hit the fucking ball guy.

But all he's thinking is he's trying to feel exactly perfect at a moment. He has no idea how many waggles. He probably knows that it's going to be a good bit. Hopefully it's not 12, 13 and then hits it pure right there. Hold the pose. Hold the pose. 12, 13, and then hits it pure right there. Hold the pose too. You have to hit it pure after all that. Hold the pose.

Imagine if you scald that thing off someone's head after doing all that. Well that's what the Miz does. These people that are able to execute at a very high level, I think in their head they're just trying to get to the perfect mindset. Obviously we all remember what Jason Kidd used to do before every single free throw where he would have his routine and then he would do the kiss I don't know if we ever shook up from that if he didn't feel like the kiss was delivered properly It's also in baseball. I think before guys enter the batter's box

There's a lot of stuff with like the gloves and the tape and everything just trying to make sure everything feels Perfect for you to go and execute your job. Who's this lad? No mark are too far of Red Sox legends Yeah, oh I don't know more Execute your job. Who's this lad? No mark are too far of Red Sox legends Every single pitch Sean Casey's boom boom unstrap and unstrap and stretch stretch do is the whole routine between pitches Oh, yeah, so no more did it be no more It's more like it's like a routine for a lot of these guys. They're doing the exact same thing That's why I started the pitch clock. So guys stop doing shit like that Legit in pitchers. There's another thing pitchers have some of these two there is Routines that some guy get into and I think it's a form of OCD. I believe it is a form of OCD

I'm not a psychiatrist. I just saw a lot of people talking about that It's like but whatever makes you get into the proper frame of mind to execute your job that's going to be able to feed your family and help your team, I'm okay with. But boy, TV people can help by not showcasing the entire thing. You know, that would, cause I assume he's pretty embarrassed that the whole world witnessed what he has to go through before. It was the helmet touching his head. It kept going back. That was, that was the killer for me. Like the, the hair thing's one thing thing But he let the helmet touch his head like five times. Yeah, there's four right there for keep dry. We don't shut it I know but for the golf they stopped with Harmon they stopped showing all the Waggles

they started catching him a little bit later in his routine so we didn't have to see it because I think they thought about that but it's like in these sports that are so like, you know, you gotta execute down to the eighth of an inch or whatever, there's some people that overthink it, I would say, and have to feel absolutely perfect. I'm just, I'm so thankful that that went in because somebody that has that in their mind of perfection, that type of miss could be

You had a game-winning field goal to go the next round of playoffs you do whatever the fuck you want brother You know what I mean? As long as it goes through the uprights who gives this shit like Adam Vinatieri didn't have much Hit it before pregame Matt Stover had a few things that he had to do before every single kick You know, I had to do a couple things. Then Vinatieri had nothing. Not that he would just walk in like a damn zombie. You have no idea. Those big ones, you know,

cause like, I don't want to say normal kicks, but let's say first three quarters kicks. James, still undecided. We don't know how important every point is going to be, but we do know, have to make the kick. It was all jovial. He was all up. He was have to make the kick. It's a jovial He was Joe we're jogging on the field. Hey, let's go old man You know point at somebody in the crowd in between the uprights if there's a little right to left wind, you know Maybe we go right center. I point out somebody in the crowd just a little give-and-take

You know could be as something as easiest how about fat so right there my whatever I think that's where we want to keep it right or he would say I think we're gonna give it up a little bit our guy perfect I'm on your side here I'll deal with the little bit lean I'll try to do my job and get the hell out of your way normally was a nice little jog on the field you know nice little jog on the field that first time when it was a think it was a game tire was the first one we're jogging on that like all right old man we old man, we'll find something, we'll find something. Just fucking nothing.

Just like, wait a minute, am I out here alone right now? It does feel like there's certainly two bodies but only one soul at the moment. Okay, that makes sense, that makes sense. And then I get down, you know, and every single time, was you ready, old man? And he nodded his head, yeah. You ready, old man? You ready, old man you ready old man nothing staring right through my soul just we're talking about I'm just wanting to stop in real time

look at him and go holy fuck this is it this is the snow game this is the Super Bowl this is the reason like this is this is why this happens and then obviously boom bang pow next thing you see is this one right here from Adam Venatieri And it's like wow I was just in the I was just saying NFL films right there I was just I was in the Super Bowl kick. I was in snow kick. I was just in like the most clutch person I think in sports I Think people would consider him down in the conversation Mount Rushmore

For sure and it's like yeah I just witnessed why because he had an ability to go to a place that I could not you know I could not get to that point right there and he was a machine so he had no real pre-kick stuff it was very different just wanted to kick a ball into the net then you want to jog out strap it up and kind of do his gig but then there's some guys like Zane who have a lot of things they want to get to to feel perfect so they can execute you make a kick who cares fourth kicker of the year for the commanders to like they went through some guys as well need them yeah number 47 don't love that

yeah get him a new little aided dish yeah what's that all about age yeah I mean like I said fourth kicker of the year, correct? I'm guessing he's not they're not gonna slide him the prime numbers He's not getting any any single digit away from a DB or something. So, you know, you're not changing now Here's the equipment room. I am the new kicker and put my room turns around just throws a jersey at him 47 47 I think you guys threw the wrong number. No, that's your number. I'm a kicker 47 is the number. Yeah, that's it

All right. Thank God. I got a fucking job. You guys got a helmet. I guess can I get this? He has no options. he had no options there 47 that's what I heard But he can earn himself a lifetime job think about that think about that for a moment. That is the kicking world They're on their fourth kicker right now. He just hit a game winner Let's say it's another game winner on a miraculous playoff run. Then he has a great game Let's say they don't win at all But let's say he has a phenomenal game this guy might have a job for the rest of his life. Hit a 52 yarder earlier in that game too. Like he was three for three in the game.

And they don't ever, they go for it on fourth every time. Like the commander refused to pun. And literally, Dan Quinn at the start of the year, he literally said, my biggest fear is not going for it, is what he said at the start of the year. Who are they playing against? Did they who did they lose that game? They got the Dan Campbell led Detroit Lions Oh, yeah, no, yeah, you know how many balls are gonna be punted none in that particular game zero zero From Jack Fox. I'm potentially showing up with my tennis shoes on maybe sweats Whatever makes me most comfortable to get down and hold for an extra points and that's it

Maybe a 70 yarder. Hey, we might try a 70 yarder. Hey jake bates. Good luck out there And that stress is even more the teams that are like that And people are are going to think this is ass backwards The punter and kicker for those teams that never punter never kick Have to be good like they have to be very very very very very very good good because if you only punt or kick every once in a while it's probably whenever you really need it it's probably only when it's a necessity and if you have somebody that's not good trot out there they're gonna be cold haven't really repped much no idea what they're doing and they miss that's

catastrophic not have good dudes just ready for one again that's like Jack Fox for Detroit Alliance he might be the best in the game he might be the best in the That's catastrophic. You gotta have good dudes. Just ready for one again. That's like Jack Fox for the Detroit Lions. He might be the best in the game. He might be the best in the game, but he only punts what? Once a year or game, twice a game. I think he's had four games. I think he's had four games where he didn't punt at all and he was still first team all-pro.

And I want to say he broke the record for net average of punts this year. Whatever that means, you would know more than me, Pat. But yeah, he's outstanding. And he only gets a couple tries a game So gross gross average is how far you kick the punt whenever the person? Catches it the returner catches it so from line of scrimmage even though we're punting it from 11 yards 10 yards behind line of Scrimmage, we only get credit from line of scrimmage field goal kickers get credit from where the ball spotted. Okay? Okay, sounds like bullshit line of scrimmage to where returner catches it

That is just your average gross average net average is after return where it ends up at from line of scrimmage and Net is the one that matters and that is the one that matters because that's how much you actually gain for your team Now granted if you have a high inside the 20 number That's potentially because you don't have a high inside the 20 number that's potentially because you don't have a lot of full fields to work with that could mean your offense stinks so you're able to pin then you're able to stop then they punt back your offense isn't able to move so now you're punting into a short field a lot so your gross average can't be that great and your net average can't

be that great but your inside of 20 number should be gigantic Because you don't have a full field like there's a lot of guys who have huge gross averages like Punting to the returner and then our net average is crop and probably tells you that either the coverage team is shit Which could be the case or they're hitting balls that are out kicking coverages, which means not a lot of hang time I think yeah, yeah anybody anybody in the NFL can lowline one like 60 yards if they wanted to that is just like sometimes you'll see punters do that and Like even in training camp They'll be guys trying to get jobs or whatever and they're like low lining balls and you'll see the preseason game and they're trying

To get that number up when everybody seasons like that's going to the house. That's going to the house That's going to the house in the NFL So those guys that can boom it hang it and get big net like Jack Fox. That's why he's first team all-pro I remember telling and I were looking at the numbers. It was hard He didn't have he didn't have anywhere near the amount of punts as everybody else So I didn't love that because he didn't have to showcase it But all the punts that he had he made most of and it's like that's even more pressure that's even more pressure so he's a dog we won't have to pawn much let's go to tonight's game shall we let's make our picks gumpsh who do you think how do you think

this particular wild card game goes everything to me says Vikings but I worry that Flores won't be able to confuse Stafford the way he confuses other quarterbacks. Give me the Rams plus two and a half. Oh man. Okay. Gumps like I think I I'm off the sand Arnold wagon after what happened. That was bad, dude. It was bad.

It was old sand. He was overthrown. He got the jitters. Yeah, I'm worried about that. I'm worried about it. It was old Sam. He was overthrown. He got the jitters. Yeah, I'm worried about that I'm worried about it. I think the Rams I think Stafford. I think Stafford has a big game I think the Rams defense does enough where they can get this done. Connor Talgumpe. He was waiting all day for Sunday night I've seen a lot of Sam Darnold since you you know, his time at the Jets and now I also

definitely think the Rams and just the McVay, K.O.C. team. I do, I mean, their D-line is awesome. I can't wait to watch Jared verse tonight. He is such a dog, but no, I would go Stafford and Pook. I think I trust them a little more than Sammy Ghost Darnold. I just don't, I just don't believe. Geez, Sammy Ghost Darnold is not back in one night for the NFC first overall scene.

He was overthrown some guys because he was zipped up. Okay, sue him. What you guys are, you're holding this against him. D. Butch, how do you see this one going? You know what, I've been on record in the past saying Sam Darnold absolutely stinks. Geez. And his years have gone on. He's gone to other places. You get around a guy like KOC, you get the talent around him,

you get the road that he's went and he's matured. I'm still in on Sam Darnold. Now, obviously the last time we saw him, it was bad. I think that was more so for Aaron Glenn, absolute master class, which I don't anticipate the Rams will give him tonight. So I'm going Sam Darnold on the Vikings, minus two and a half over the Rams and nice.

Okay, okay. Sam Darnold absolutely stinks is what Terry said. In the past and that was true at that point. Now we got new information. He's a new guy. He's a new quarterback. I like him. I think Sam.

First 14 win team on the road. I like him. I think Sam would say that actually right. Don't you think about who he was Don't you say I was playing bad football. I was crop football player back then you think he would say I think so Yeah, I think definitely I think we know as players before anybody else knows and we hear it in the media rooms We see it on TV and then you got to respond you got to react you got to learn from and that's what he did Okay

D botches with the Minnesota Vikings Darius is very loudly with the Rams. So is Conn, man. Ty, who do you like? I'm sorry, Gumps is very loudly with the Rams. Ty, who do you like? Uh, seems like everyone was on the Vikings and then now it's kind of starting to turn towards the Rams.

Vikings are very good. I saw it firsthand a lot of the year. I think, you know, it'll be a good night for Sam Darnold to kind of put last week to rest and let everyone know, hey, I am going to be a 55, 60 million dollar quarterback next year. I like the Vikings. 60. I think there is a lot of money to be had for Sam Darnold who's about to be a free agent. Will he return to the Minnesota Vikings maybe with a franchise tag or will he test the market? Tone digs are you rolling with the money or are you picking?

The rhymes I'm gonna go with the Vikings minus the two and a half And I'm probably gonna all spread to Vikings minus 12 and a half. I don't know if it's gonna be even be close tonight She's feeling good AJ there's been a lot of different opinions on how this game's gonna go tonight. You are three and two on the weekend thus far. Congratulations to you and to D-Butch and to that other guy.

Stanford, Steven. Do you go to 500 on wild card weekend or do you go to four and two? AJ, who do you like, how do you like it? Yeah, I plan on going to four and 500 on wild card weekend or do you go to four in two AJ? Who do you like? How do you like yeah? I plan on going to four and two on wild card weekend And I am riding with the Minnesota Vikings minus two and a half. I think Flores, you know throw some exotics at him Even though I know Matthew Stafford's awesome. He's seen everything he can make every single throw level he can do

I think Harrison Smith maybe gets a pick tonight. I think Sam Darnall gets back on track. I don't have the recency bias as much I'm not worried too much about what happened Last time he took the field. So give me the Vikings Okay, I love that Also love the fact that this game's being played in Phoenix Glendale, is that where it's at? AQ should go do the coin toss maybe They said the tickets were going like hotcakes

if D-Bone was in a drive-through. Wow. That's fast. It's all about. They said these tickets were flying out there and I don't know if it's just Los Angeles people who have had to evacuate and once again, we can't stress enough how sorry and devastated

we all feel for what you guys are going through. That is, some of those pictures, before and after pictures are just like devastating. I don't even know how you even get back or what is the even thought of potentially getting back. But Phoenix hosting that is gonna be wonderful. And remember that turf is gonna be pristine because that thing rolls itself outside

and then it comes right back in to get wilder. It's gonna be a magical night in Phoenix for this last game of the super wild card weekend But I disagree With bubblegum peanut, I think Sam Donald spends it tonight. I think Justin Jefferson goes crazy I think he got the jitters out at the right time which is the last game of the season for the Minnesota Vikings There's some Minnesota Vikings fans, you know that I've talked to that have given up hope on this Vikings team. They said this is the team. We knew this was the team. Even though they won 14, I don't love that at all. I will take the Vikings minus two and a half. Even though I love Matthew

Stafford, I appreciate Matthew Stafford. I love Ustupukunapua. I love Cooper Cup. I love that young D-line. But I like the Minnesota Vikings tonight to win. I think they're gonna get it done, and boys, I believe that is, if you can see what I can see. All right, it's a little bit of a dark arena, you know? So there's people appearing out of shadows. Yeah. Oh my God, can you show what is his baffling?

I was gonna Shit yeah, hi, right kind of a horse head great. Thank you. Thank you. Sharky. Oh That's a sharky Ceramic mug. Oh, we got a Mug be careful. He looks hungry Shit, that got a Mug be careful. He looks hungry Shit, that's a hungry hungry shot This is pretty nice

They got an incredible pies on young pies on playing for that team Good at yeah, but they like they stink not as bad as they stunk last year though, right? That's a young guy You guys are back you're back this year. Oh put that on It's kind of like a horse head Do you have a very much so look like Rick's? Where's the his teeth sharp? Can you feel those gump? Oh, it's in the back It's in the back. I forgot and that's where it's been I think you say he's gonna eat. Oh you kick you kick good Feel go. Okay. You guys need to be scoring goals

Making a rain on you. Thank you. Yeah. Hey shark. Hey Oh, he's making a rain on you. Thank you. Yeah. Hey shark. Hey Sharky, thank you. Holy shit. They suck. Don't tell me said they suck What's that? Sharky? These guys say you suck. Sharky. No, you want me to put the jersey on? shock What's the record what's the record again here for the shark? I thought good pure shite. Yeah Like plus 200 on the money line Sharks are shite. That's what they're saying in my ear right now. Yeah, you don't have ears. Okay. Yeah, holy shit You see that muscle boys. She's

That's a necktie on men's already, bro. I will say I mean it's even though they are Unbelievable is a zany mascot. I'm a fan The merchants gears Needs to be fucking sucks. Yeah. Oh what happened to his man? Oh, okay What you do? Oh, it is it's I don't like the Finn logo. I'll be honest I like the old shark logo like he's got on his chest. Oh, which one? I don't love this This is like a way a lot of us know one one of sharky. Thank you, Sharky Thank you. That's very kind of you. You're good man, Sharky team might not be good, but you're great

Zane you sure I like the fan. I like the fin on the back. No number though. So that the fin this reminds me of like a Whale watching yeah, I mean it's the old orca Looks like an orca It does right? I mean they've changed that haven't that yeah, no wonder they're shite Yeah, they're not that bad. They're getting better boy. Well tank. I got some good young talent I heard about a pies on they said Sharks are like plus 200 to plus 300 every night. You bet. I'm on the money line. You'll make some money Thank you sharky

Hungry hungry shocked and it gave me a jersey. It's a very kind of them. They even gave me a strap They even gave me the strap thing. Oh shit. I like it. Yeah Yeah, I think it's gonna fit. It's a game Jersey. It is a good tart. Oh, yeah. I'm in a good spot boys I'm a good spot was the coach of the guy that went against Gordon Bombay wolf the dentist. This is the coach Yeah, this is the coat he used to wear. Yeah here SJS Shite jr. Shite

I don't think that's He's so big. What does dance floor stand for? I don't think that's what it was. San Jose's shit. Good coach. Could be the San Jose's shit. Boys. Would they beat Utah? Oh yeah, Utah hockey's shit.

What? They actually just lost like 3 nights ago. They lost 2-1 to Utah. Yeah, you want to talk about shit. Utah? What about the Penns? Are the Penns still shit or no? Utah yeah you want to talk about shy are you telling you tall oh yeah what about the pens are the pens still shite or no they were they had a bad weekend but they've been playing good lately before that what they're good they're in the playoffs you know who's is like a playoff they're lurking they're in the

hunts and hockey is the the Broadway blue shirts the New York Rangers absolutely stink oh sorry about it Bruce. Sorry about it. Hey Bruce a lot of giant shout outs this weekend from the field pass I don't know if you got a chance to hear any of those. Yeah no I did yeah it's it's tough times Michael Stram is taking shots now too but you know we turned the... What did he say? Yeah he was saying like oh we let Xavier McKinney walk and Saquon walk and they're, you know, lighting it up on a wild card Sunday. But you know, I'm kind of over it.

Happy for Saquon now that he gets to live with the great offensive line. You guys are the Pittsburgh Pirates. Yeah. You guys are the Pittsburgh Pirates. Pretty much. That's cool, isn't it, to watch your guys go succeed? No, it sucks, but... Nah, yeah, it's fun.

Come on, Malik Davisabers was having fun watching the commanders. Yeah, he's watching his guys succeed. He was like dapping them up mid-game, all the Giants are down like 21 points. So, you know, yeah, it's great. It's all good. Tell me how that LSU team didn't win with neighbors Thomas and Jayden Daniels. Riddle me that. Yeah two words. And it's why Notre Dame's in the National Championship. Somebody said, I mean I gotta I gotta get this out there. Somebody tweeted yesterday that he's barely a good college ball coach. Come on. Marcus Freelon? Who? Yeah. One of the last coaches coaching what was said Omar Kelly so there was uh oh this is Miami Dolphins beat reporter yeah this

is Omar Kelly so the Chicago Bears report came out about Marcus Freeman Omar Kelly quote tweet and said he's barely a good college ball coach I mean the guy Marcus Freeman's unbelievable Notre Dame's in the national championship He's only been a college coach for a little bit though I think it's probably what he was talking about like he just started in his entire career potentially. I'm not Us a lot of information. I know I agree with what you're saying D much But I think he's probably saying just started in his entire thing guy is no idea what head coaches I'm not agreeing with him at all. I just think you know know, Gumpy potentially reads tweets as if they are personally attacking him. And sometimes that's not how

to know what you're doing for while D bunch actually sent me the tweets that you knew new D bunch knew. I said, you're the one. I just sent it to him. Is this real? It was real. We get on these planes, we get on these planes for four and a half hours and I'll tell you what, is this question is gone.

Everything is real. It's like, boom, this morning by the way, on the flight, 48 degrees in that plane. Yeah, it was an ice box. Absolute ice box. So cold. They had three blankets on. Three blankets on. couldn't go up to the front though and ask him to turn it up because this has been a little bit of a thing between me and the

pilots so that I think because the pilots all live in Florida okay so these pilots you know when they come up pick us up in a cold they want to heat up his plane because of how you know they don't like the cold at all you know Tennessee going up to Columbus but I get on a plane I'm sweating I'm like hey, excuse me. Can we cool this fucking we cool this thing down and they're like it's really cold I was out my I know but we need to you know, I'm sweating now. I want to be sweating You know, it's there has to be a happy medium. So now there's a little bit of a standoff So I think today was like is that right to us? I think that's what it was I couldn't I could not adjust it. I pressed that button a hundred times It did not buzz so there's no there's no way I was going up there, you know, cuz there's I can't give up any leverage right?

Okay, give up anything. It was so cold could see our breath in there Breath in the plane. It was awesome. It was great. I slept like a first time ever sleeping just passed out Whoa, three blankets on top foxy three hours It wasn't it. was nice wasn't it good yeah yeah I watch you bum sleep on the plane all the time yeah I'm always like these guys are so fucking entitled and spoiled that you don't a private plane let's go to sleep let's not enjoy this at all one time all of a sudden I did it Connor I want to let you know snoozy mix

So you were two feet away from me. You were snoring my I knew I knew that's what it was I was like fuck. I was definitely snoring Right in the ear it was on no, it's been fantastic traveling around but yeah, I think I think I might have been exhausted this morning I think there's a chance but I'll tell you what I need to start doing that more often You guys are right. It is pretty good. It is pretty good to wake up on the other side. We're here. Oh, yeah What what it's like a time machine was a time machine this morning. Skip all Take blocking out without booze bingo

No angle. Well said. None. Well said. Time drop. So let's keep that thing at 47 degrees. Maybe. I'm just gonna let him know he's fine. You can wear that coat.

It was so cold. It was so cold. Locked in there. I can give it away though to the pilots. Good night. This is a good group. Okay, we'll be outta here. We'll be back tomorrow raw tonight on Netflix

wild-card game on ESPN I Can't wait for all of it. We'll be back tomorrow with Aaron Rodgers. What do you think he's gonna say? What's going on? Yeah, I mean, I know he's going through situations out there with the fires everything. I don't know who knows where he's oh, yeah What he's doing? Sounds like everybody's evacuated is that there's like mandatory evacuations in a lot of areas I don't know like who is like is there there's got to be certain spots where it's voluntary where some parts of the neighborhood leave And some don't I don't has anything contained yet. Have we heard anything? I don't know every time they show a map I just think it's the whole like what hasn't been hit almost is like more of a question. They're showing entire

What hasn't been hit almost is like more of a question. They're showing entire Mm-hmm. I'm seeing all the things helicopter footage of like picking up the big buckets of water from people's pools and stuff Like have we gotten water there yet? Are we have we figured any of that out? I have no idea but and hopefully and I know that's a big that's a huge thing It can't be happening in our united states of america in 2025. Who are we? What are we? Let's make sure we're taking care of all of that type of stuff. But those helicopters turn that son of a bitch sideways, spraying that water. How about those planes, the Canadian planes,

that are on top of water and they're scooping up thousands of gallons of water? Nuts. That's what they always use for those forest fires in Alberta. They're incredible, man. Cause you can't go too deep in there, you crash. Yep. But you got to skim enough to grab water.

It is like, why? All of a is like why does this become an idea? All of a sudden you're what 40 000 pounds heavier too when he's trying to take back get back out of there like I Those dudes I would not want to ride on that Incredible work by all of the first responders and firefighters although we're not seeing it all but yeah here was the I think that is the canadian. Oh Canadian I forget the number see something Canadian where it just scoops up water on the bottom of it and if we're using ocean water from the begin with hmm I don't I don't think I understand any of it but I hope it gets taken care of for the sake of everybody we'll be back

tomorrow can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living we're talking about that a lot with the field pass where we were able to stand on the sideline of these games, these massive games. It's the dumbest life fall time we're lucky to do at Gump's. You look so cool. It's a good coat. You look like a sharkie, pal. Awesome. It was really cool to see the, that's the most emotion I've ever seen on AJ Hawk on the touchdown at the end. That was, that was awesome. Pure joy from AJ Hawk.

It was. That was awesome. Pure joy from AJ Hawk. It was. Legitimately. AJ, and then Jack Sawyer throwing up your hand signal right in your face. That was cool. Yeah, I texted with him about that a little bit. The hissel celebration. You're texting Jack Sawyer?

Whoa, this guy. About his little, I didn't know he knew. It's an old school throwback that he threw out. Throwback player. I've seen it a long time. So yeah, I hadn't done it in a long time. He is a throwback. What was he, two years old when you old when you were doing that? He was zero. He wasn't born. No way But that's the thing about him he feels like he would have been you know, if you was

They were dipping ripping the edges all night JTT like the D line. Yeah, they're their defenses humming. Yeah, AJ talk about the blocking you lost your mind for the boys blocking back here Oh, yeah. Oh, Oh yeah I had a whole conversation with all of us but yeah how his guys had the the awareness to turn back and look because look there's one guy that could probably catch him and you see Sonny Stiles right there puts his arms up I'm not gonna clip him up here we go just continue to get in his way and know that somebody is back there there's always like a little there's always a wide out or a running back chasing

that's going to probably catch a D lineman or whoever has the ball, have some awareness and just set a pick. That's all you gotta do. Don't just, I hope you see four guys run and none of them look back and all of a sudden the guy squirts through them and tackles the guy in the 10.

Everybody just celebrate. And there was a moment where you've done that before, right? And you felt pretty proud of yourself if you would like to elaborate. Will Allen, whoever, yeah, one of my favorite moments of my football life, I just blocking for one of my teammates, I turned around, I was running, can't keep up,

because this guy Will Allen, I forget whoever it was, was so fast, and I said that I'd turn around, I see somebody, give him a little point, and then I get, as I push him, I like fall into the end zone as I'm pushing the guy, and I thought like, man, that was a heady play by me. I'm glad I did that. You're a smart player. I'm glad I did that.

You're a smart player. I'm glad I did that. There's no way I was going to catch him but he might have. This little guy would have definitely outran me and got up there so I'm glad I turned around. That is heavy football. That's heavy football. Okay let's do these over reactions and let's hit the road shall we? Every single morning on Mondays I put out a tweet in. We don't have many of these left so let's make

sure we enjoy all these. Oh yeah. I say hey listen fans, football fans, not just NFL fans because the CFP semi-finals were so electrifying and so many decisions were made, just football fans as a whole. Why don't you utilize this tweet as a therapy session? Why don't you go ahead and put a tweet out in the air some of your grievances or maybe your thoughts, whether they're good or they're bad. All you're gonna have to use in the tweet is. Hashtag, I don't wanna overreact, but.

All right, we don't wanna overreact, but let's ride the wave of football fans from around the globe. This one's from Conman. Hashtag, I don't wanna overreact, but. Football this weekend made me miss watching my team in meaningful playoff games so much. That's exactly why Mike Frable being hired to New England

is such a monumental day in Patriots history. Hard hats, lunch pails, and cigs are here. Pats are back. Pats are back. Pats are back. Pats are back. That's how you feel, huh? I think that's how all of us feel, Connor. Yeah, it feels fantastic.

And obviously a lot still has to happen, all that free agency bullshitting combine stuff that will be needed for the team to be better. But just Vrabel in general, being the coach, is so much hope. The press conferences that were being kind of recycled from when he was with Tennessee, so awesome. He just takes no shit.

And then like you referenced the Taylor LeWan video. Like they're just gonna be a tough team and that's something you can get behind. And then seeing the games this weekend, it really did kind of remind me of when the Patriots were playing in games like that. And not even wild card weekend, usually it was divisional or conference championship,

but just wanting to have your team be in the playoffs again is something that I think Mike variable gives a lot of hope for for all of New England Congratulations, see yeah We're bombed out when you didn't get to enjoy for what three years, okay? Let's go to the next one shall we this from 10 digs hashtag. I don't want to react but Next one shall we? This from Tyne Diggs, hashtag I don't wanna overreact. But,

I'd commit war crimes for Josh Allen to be my quarterback. You name it, I'll do it. Tyne, I don't think you're the only one, or only team, or only city that feels that way, pal. Yeah, I mean waterboarding, dirty, you want me to drop a dirty bomb on a small town? I'll do it, this is fine. Chemical weapons, I don't care,

because if you don't have a quarterback in the NFL, you're fucked. You're fucked. You certainly are. You certainly are. No doubt. And starting to realize that pretty heavily, pretty hard. And Josh Allen is just my cup of tea. He's got some seven in him. He could also run like a son of a bitch.

Something about him that you trust, right? I would love to have Josh Allen on my football team, but you know. All right, you're not the only one. We'd all love to have Josh Allen as our quarterback, I think, as we go forward. Can Buffalo win one with him? We shall see. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, do battle next weekend. Let's get into the next overreaction, shall we? This one's from Buddy McGuy, E and R. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But. But. The entire city of Pittsburgh is disgusted, embarrassed,

but not shocked. This entire Steelers roster needs drowned in the morn and left to rot. Jeez. Some say if you listen quietly, you can still hear Derek Henry clapping the Steelers defense. His cheeks. It sounds like Mac guy was echoing your mixed sentiments. Yeah. I think that's the sentiments of basically every single Steelers fan in the country. You guys

were telling me, Hey, you know, beat pause. If you guys are in the playoffs, we knew we fucking, we knew what was going to happen. Cause it's the same fucking thing every goddamn year. And we'll do it again next year. Cause like I said earlier, nothing's going to change. Um, just the, the effort, the effort was the most surprising and shocking and disappointing and embarrassing part of that football game. Oh, buddy said he's packing dip pins and six on you guys. That's what old Buddy said. Derek Henry was doing here defense.

And then he said, he was clapping them. Geez, could have done whatever he wanted, they said. He was. Right up the middle. He could do whatever he wanted. Cause we decided, hey, you put three, four guys, wherever Derek's not, that'll work. That's perfect.

Pittsburgh's theater fans excited that their team has made the playoffs yet again That's good. Yes in the dance in the dance one more week football One more week of joy Right a lot of people go to the more week of football Ten more double yours is what's happening in? Pittsburgh it's got an ex overreaction shall we? Kevin Davis at Kevin underscore underscore underscore

Camacho cuz Kevin underscore Camacho was taken Hashtag I don't ever react But should have been disqualified there. Yeah double but the way the Eagles played yesterday, they will be gone next week. All right But the way the Eagles played yesterday, they will be gone next week. All right. Heart sucks, please. For the love of football, God's bench, Jalen hurts and put in that dog, Tanner McKee. Oh, by the way, this is a better cheese head than that fucking yellow shit the Packers were tied.

What was this all about? Where did this come from? And did a lot of people call for Tanner McKee to be playing football next week? Not a lot of people called for Tanner McKee. A lot of people week? Not a lot of people called for Tanner McKee a lot of people saying Jalen Hurts stinks though and that the Eagles can't win any more games because he just isn't the guy and I was like I was Rather surprised by that his hurts looks pretty good at the start of the game He didn't play great, you know in the second and third quarters But I was I was shocked as many fans were saying hey this guy stinks, we're fucked because he's gonna be starting next week

They're calling him Jalen stinks. That's rude. Wow. I think he's a guy who's won them a lot of games I think throughout his life. He's won a lot of football games keep doing your thing Jalen. Good luck out there Hell yeah Good luck out there He got donged in the head he's coming off a concussion Yeah, bingo. Big donk in the head, two week donk in the head, 16 day donk in the head I mean that's that's a little different. He bingo. So big dong to head two week dong to head 16 day dong to head. I mean that's that's a little different. These work the rust out obviously they're gonna do their thing going forward. The Eagles are such an interesting team because if they don't win the Super Bowl it's

gonna be loud regardless. They win another game who cares? They win another game who cares? They lose in the Super Bowl. Philadelphia's gonna be loud about that team as a whole. Jalen doesn't have to do much their defense is unbelievable. Lights out. So good. Lights out. Blanket ship flies around. We were talking about that. Oh yeah.

Sure tackle. Yeah, sure tackle. He is exciting, isn't he? Kobe Dean. He is a very exciting white, but they lost to Kobe Dean for the rest of the playoffs. I think he had a patella injury and he has been a dog this year alongside of Zach Bond. He had some tackling issues once he left the game too as far as leverage wise go But I think definitely overreaction with Jalen hurts but losing the key contributed like that on defense still a bunch of dogs over

There but I think the Eagles will be just fine Any exciting whites creeping their way into the all everything DB postseason team? You know what Cooper Dejean he hit the ground running next year Uh like he did from next year. What five there's not a postseason team? You know what? Cooper Dejean, he hit the ground running next year, like he did from year five. Next year? There's not a postseason team? Playoff team? You know what? There will be a postseason team. It's only one game, so I guess the guys who continue to play, because Durbin James, he had a great game, but they're out. Maybe we'll do that. Sir Tan didn't have a goal. Maybe Gonzalo have a game plan. Maybe Gonsalves should have been the first team.

Gonsalves, Cabo right now. What's Sir 10? Postseason. I like that. There's a lot of teams in Cabo talking shit this week. I wasn't there. Yeah. Well, everybody's paying attention to football.

I like that. Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? This one's from AbsoluteSconjural. At BengaliCard. Is that what that would be? Uh huh. Good name. This one's from absolute scoundrel at Bengali card Hashtag I don't want to react Todd Monkin better not fuck this up like last year in the AC Championship run the ball Derek Henry's the X Factor going in the next round against the Bills the Ravens don't need Lamar Jackson to prove

He has to out duelduel Josh Allen. Hashtag run it! Remember against the Chiefs last year, that was the big flaw. Baltimore Ravens refused to run the ball. Also, ball got punched out at the half yard line in an incredible play by Justin Reed. Now, I think they understand that lesson. I think they've learned that lesson D-bunch. They're running the rock. At the beginning of the year, I don't think they were believers remember Harbaugh said you don't run the ball with Derek Henry 20 times a game at this stage to win Yes, you do. This dude's unbelievable to watch and him and Lamar Jackson is a tag team with Ricard out there and likely and Andrews any amount of meat they got on that offensive line, let alone the outside weapons that offense is tough to stop But they gotta run the rock old buddies, right? Got to run the rock and I think what what think LeBar off like he's hit the over on his own

Russian prop every week since his mom cuts them out. So I think time I can't Todd Monk and we'll get it, right? He'll run the ball. But also you got to be a pass the ball, especially this down in this time of year I think it'll be all hands on deck situation when you go into battle with the Buffalo Beals and you would assume Probably the Chiefs in the next round Okay, I love that. They'll be able to continue to run the rock hopefully and you're right Lamar's mom said hey, listen start running the ball. Well speaking of running the ball tone How come that RPO hasn't worked like that every time the Ravens play against you guys? Why don't they do it like that all the time?

I mean traditionally the Steelers would just run TJ Water whoever's the end directly at Lamar and then make the running back do something now in the past they didn't have Derek Henry So that that's probably the biggest difference now in these games the last couple games where they have had the success because I believe Derek has gone over 170 in the last two games He's the X Factor and his Bengali car so another of reaction shall we tie There was a lot of them one up to the number one trend in the United States right if I'm not mistaken Yes, it did. Yeah today was prime prime time. Well, I mean it's the playoffs, you know, everyone was geared up and ready to go There are a lot of good ones today Here we go. This one's from Josh Zimski at Josh Z

1151 this guy will do some fucking landscaping. Yeah he will. And some killing. I don't know if he just got done hunting or fucking murdering bushes, but Josh will go out there and get the job done. That's either a big old rake or something special. We appreciate Josh and his hard work ethic. Hashtag I don't want to overreact.

But. A backer stink. Gut the team. Fire the floor. Trade love, Ebe Willis, we would have been better off fielding a team using kids from the Green Bay Area Technical College. They shed no heart and no fight last night.

Hashtag rebuild 2025. Ty. Wow. You picked these. This is about your team that you own. Is this how Packers fans are feeling feeling I thought we're about a year away I didn't know we're gotten the whole thing and starting over again with Malik Willis. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen They just paid Jordan love 55 million dollars So I think it's safe to say he will be

Sticking around a lot of people want him to be traded or cut or whatever The little floor thing is interesting because all year we were talking about how good he was doing You know scheming up the offense and especially winning with Malik Willis when Jordan Love wasn't healthy But he just he he kind of just doesn't show up in big games Hasn't in the last couple years seems to get out coached quite a bit And again, I said it in the you know The first hour like you just it sucks when they waste that good of a defensive effort from you know Cuz they just that those are so few and far between

But yeah, I mean there's there's three or four position groups that they need to spend some money They're gonna have money for the first time in a long time because Rogers contract is finally off the books So I don't think they're gonna be gutting the team, you know I think it's safe to say that they're probably just gonna mean again You can make as many excuses as you want They're still you know, the youngest roster in the NFL So hopefully one more year and love not, you know thinking he has to throw a 90 yard touchdown Every single time he drops back to pass like that price serving pretty well next year

All right. Good that'll be maturity maturity that happens as you go last time Packers on a Super Bowl What they had a top five defense Or something like that. That's that Curves last time they had a top five defense as well. I think Walker. I saw that guy was leader Monsters up front some monsters in the back end that guy dumps dog You gumps got it It was that guy though was awkward OH I oh

What is awkward OH I oh Remember he left one he circled back Yeah smart we're in the middle of a Championship run a day let's not leave any door more quarters four more quarters That's right four more games now. We're down to four more quarters where the boys got captain Jack and boys ready to go Let's go to another of reaction shall we is from JTB at JTB 1012 looks like he's a Texans fan hashtag. I don't ever react but I was wrong CJ fraud Nah dummy CJ stroud. He is the next big thing in this Texans defense Swarming her be at four interceptions for his worst game of his career. Hey, we coming for the Chiefs, we slaying the Dragon,

says JTB. I'd like to have a conversation with him in real life. Sounds like he's a bit electrifying. We doing this, we doing that. Do we feel like that's accurate, H? We think the Texans maybe have a chance to go on a run, maybe go slay the Dragon that is the back-to-back Super Bowl champions over there in Arrowhead?

Well, I would imagine if they would find a way to beat the Chiefs in the Chiefs house, then yeah, that would give them the momentum to boost the juice that they need to make a run. But I just don't see him beating the Chiefs here. I think the Chiefs coming off the by, we had Trav on earlier. Like those guys seem to be doubting. They were full pads last week, they'll be in full pads again this week. Like Andy Reed, I don't think we'll let those guys relax or feel comfortable ever

Okay, we're excited to see if that's true. Let's go to another of a reaction shall we this is from Christian boy Hamilton At Hamilton Pro for this guy's a fucking pro Go boat go boat go boat go boat go boat. I got owner of react by Go Boat. Go Boat. Hashtag I don't ever react. But. Liam Cohen should be named Bucs head coach by the time the program is going live. He brought this team back to life while Bulls has been slowly killing it for years now. We narrowly win our shagged division every year just for that mindless idiot who's fucking up a game. What? What is he talking about? A couple of fumbles

of misbehave,per, center and quarterback. Mike Evans won Ham yesterday. It's fun to watch him kind of do his thing. But yeah, they lose a playoff game at home. The only one of the year of the weekend. Gumpsh. Third and sixth game on the line, only sent three. Bulls always die sending the Blitz. And I don't know what happened there, but he was wide open across the middle. Yeah Yeah, I Would like to be the person that just you know states the obvious which I think Kyle Brandt was trying to do yesterday with Little Wayne he think he could have done a little different way But the way he did is I've not watched enough of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this year to understand

If Todd Bowles has fucked this one up or not But Mike Evans got another thousand yards his half time his half time interview didn't do him any favors What do you say? I was talking about left and right and he didn't really know what was going on. It was it was tough There's a bunch of gibberish from clock management. It was a bunch of gibberish. Oh, they're saying they're the succoneers Is that what they're saying? That's what they're saying Man, that's not cool. I like the fucking fucking ears that's a good name Todd bad grade brand truck oh that's Baker did ram truck Bobby Wagner he ram trucked Bobby Wagner Baker did what comes with all night a disruptor or a Collins worth continue to

come back to what he called he called Baker a disruptor I believe or something like that and he kept cutting made he actually made Toreko say it one time. He said, because he is the, and they paused for like three seconds, the trigger said disruptor. Like, I don't know if it was disruptor or not, it was a word like that. How about Toreko losing his shit when that kick goes in?

I mean, he was going bonkers. Boy! Hey, way to show that, we like that, Toreko. We like a little more. Yeah, Mike. I'll go the next over reaction. Shall we got two left? This one's from at GJN at GJN.

Kuh 15 hashtag. I don't want to react. But this Chargers team got exposed. Sure. Herbert had the worst game of his career, but it doesn't help when his supporting cast or a bunch of circus clients and get that fat so Greg Roben off the team On the next year hashtag bolt up. I think on the next year is the right idea I think they were ahead of schedule here. They got rid of a lot of people culture is implemented

I love what they are doing down there in Los Angeles Legitimately for the Chargers can't wait to see what they do next year and last overreaction here from Jack Lowe at Lodjak Six has to get on every act but The commanders are a team of destiny this year and the doink heard around the world Encapsulated it commander and clutch jaden daniels put the cape on again last night and showed why he's the rookie of the year time to bite kneecaps on Saturday night man Hashtag raise hail you think about the hail mary deflection

You think about the doink in to win in wild card weekend you think about the change of ownership? Maybe it is the football gods saying hey this team has been starving this fan base has been yearning for this since they were named the the football team Before that Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah the Redskins this team has been yearning for that and they're getting it They are fun to watch Jayden isaculate, and the new ownership seemingly representing

in a fashion of we're going all in here to win, and their fans deserve it. All right, we're gonna get the hell out of here. Cookie and Magic are gonna be there on Saturday night as well. And Detroit is going back home. Yeah, back in Michigan for Cookie and Magic. Heard the announcement.

So that's gonna be taking place. The Manders are rolling as are any team that is still alive in the playoffs both in the NFL and college and tonight will it be Minnesota or will it be a Los Angeles? We shall see. All right we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. You're the greatest people on earth. Thank you so much. We're living a very dumb life for now. We don't know what day is which and I'm saying we because I'm acting like I'm speaking for everybody. I'm definitely speaking for myself. If I'm not speaking for you boys

go ahead and say something. We don't know what day of the week it is We have no idea what is next but we do know that in the moment that we're in we're the luckiest group of dumbass Motherfuckers on earth. Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living Let's continue to enjoy the ride because we have no idea what's gonna happen tomorrow be a friend tell a friend something nice It might change your life. We're in this thing together boys. Great work AJ. Thank you for traveling D. But see you tomorrow boys See you tomorrow. Hell. Yeah, good luck tonight. Yeah, crush it. Yeah Raw on Netflix 8 p.m. Eastern Vikings Rams ESPN ABC 8 p.m. Eastern. You got a tablet. You got a phone Let's enjoy it all be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Am I change your life?

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