The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1276 - Vikings vs. Rams Recap, Deion Sanders To The Cowboys? Adam Schefter, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the final playoff game from Suuuuuper Wild Card weekend that saw the Rams absolutely dominate the Vikings in Scottsdale leading to a whole slew of questions about what’s next for Sam Darnold and this Vikings team as a whole. Joining the progrum to chat about the news that Deion Sanders and the Cowboys might have mutual interest in one another, what they’ll ultimately do, where Mike McCarthy might end up, wide sweeping changes being made in Pittsburgh (excluding Mike Tomlin), why mike Vrabel is perfect for New England and how much control he’ll have and much more is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdom on this Super Wall Tuesday January 14th 2025 this program starts now. Football! It's absolutely wonderful we wrapped up the wild card weekend that was once titled Super Wild Card Weekend last night as the Los Angeles Rams is the home team in Phoenix Absolutely beat the hell out of Minnesota Vikings Congratulations to the Rams as I was watching that game on a flight back from beautiful San Jose, California last night You could tell early the talks was table at Boston corner that Matthew Stafford was gonna have a Matthew Stafford like game He was locked in dialed in first play of the game is an absolute

strike and literally I'm streaming it mean dump and Gumpy watching on the planes. We're flying back and we're like, oh shit, because we're trying to keep up with the internet a little bit while the game was happening. It's like, hey, Matt Stafford's having a Matt Stafford night. It's not just Matt Stafford. It's Sean McVay. You start looking at stats now on how many games

Sean McVay has won in the playoffs since he's got to the LA Rams. How it's all gone since he's been there. How successful they've been no matter who is on that team. Remember they're in the middle of a brand new squad, Aaron Donald, a GOAT, a great of all time, a man who's gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer, a Mount Rushmore player retires. This is supposed to be a rebuild. Didn't have enough money remember because they spent it all. They traded all their assets to go all in to win the Super Bowl in Los Angeles, which they did, but then immediately afterwards,

this team's fucked. They kicked the can down the road. At some point, you're gonna get to the part of the road where the can is, and it's gonna catch up to you. Les Snead said, I don't need them picks. Give me all the big names. Give me all the big players. We wanna go all in.

Then Les Snead took second rounders, third rounders, fourth rounders, fifth rounders, everything but first rounders, and turned them into absolute gold. This dude is an absolute beast, a monster. A general manager that you would hope would be on your team because when it was time to go all in and have to win in a new city quickly, he did just that and he picked the right guys to go all in on. Then whenever he had to move on and find young talent

that was cheaper to mix in with the older guys, he was able to do that and now they're staring down eight playoff wins in eight years for Sean McVeigh who was hired as the youngest coach in the NFL at the time when he was able to do that and now they're staring down eight playoff wins in eight years for Sean McVay Who was hired as the youngest coach in the nfl at the time when he was brought to Kind of lead this brand new franchise in the city of stars los angeles who were still Nothing, but tees and peas to all the people over there obviously devastation, but congrats to the rams man. Congrats. Let's see Congrats to Sean McVay Congrats to Matthew Staff to Matthew Stafford, congrats to Puka Nakua being a guy, congrats to Cooper Cup, obviously being a quarterback on the field and maintaining his health through these very pivotal games.

And then congrats to the young defense that the Los Angeles Rams have that forced nine sacks last night, which is playoff record, obviously, and Sam Darnold was in absolute hell of a nightmare. And did he potentially lose like $120 million over the last couple weeks potentially but Super Wild Card weekend is done. There was one banger in there there was obviously an upset or two that happened and now all eyes look ahead to the divisional round. The Rams have to travel to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles how are they

doing? Well we think they're at a peak right now. I saw a little mic'd up situation from the sidelines. Devontae Smith, AJ Brown, remember AJ Brown reading the book, Inner Excellence on the Sideline, because he's so fed up with what's going on in real life, he wanted to escape through a couple pages of a book. Well, he and Devontae, whenever Saquon decided to slide at the end of the game to win it, they'd go over to him and go,

no, no, what are we, what are you doing? What are you, we get yards at least. You know, hey, we gotta at least think about that. He goes, it's a dub, to him and go, no, no, what are we? What are you doing? What are we? We get yards at least, you know, hey, we got to at least think about that He goes, it's a dub and they both go, okay They kind of back off So I appreciate the fact that it feels like the vibes and the more the aura of that particular team are very high over there spite of all the shit that has been talked about all year about this Eagles team Matthew Stafford and playoffs gonna be dangerous Texans and Chiefs can't wait to watch that. Commanders and Lions, how you doing?

Keep it moving, nine and a half points spread in the playoffs following an eight point spread against the Texans for the Chiefs. And then obviously the game of the weekend in everybody's eyes, Baltimore Ravens burst first the Buffalo Bills. Baltimore's favored on the road in Buffalo in a playoff game.

It's the first time in like 18 times that the Buffalo Bills are underdogs at home in the playoffs. So highly anticipated matchups. Anybody can go and get it. Feels like there is kind of two classes of football happening both in the NFL and in college ball, but we're whittling away and getting to the point where it's all the great teams.

And we're incredibly lucky for that. The Talks at the Tables here at Boss Conner and at Ty Schmidt early. You said Matthew Stafford looked locked in. It's fun to have that guy as your quarterback, I would assume, how Los Angeles Rams fans feel. Yeah, unbelievable. There was a shot of him walking to the field

from the tunnel, and I think right there, just a look in his eyes, the stoicness, if you will, how locked in he was was very apparent. I think he started nine for nine with 104 yards with like six minutes left in the first so right off the bat You kind of figure okay. There's a chance the the Rams run away with this also the D line Immediately the Vikings first drive. I think their first play actually they started off with a sack so it was a vicious effort You know we talked about the matchups in that next round And of course Ravens bills is gonna be awesome This Rams D line versus the Eagles O line is going to be a spectacle of trenches warfare

Just because of course the Eagles, you know, they won the trench he with the long hair a Q Shipley trophy Not just the normal one, but that's right first place brother Yeah with how good they were Jared versus a freak of nature and he didn't even have one of those nine sacks But he was just pushing piles all night Way too big way too strong way too fast For a human to be able to pull all those off nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here looking very very cool D butch This defense at the Rams have they're young. They're very good It seems like it took him maybe a little bit to gather because before the trade deadline, what people are saying

about the Rams is they need to sell. They need to get Matt Stafford out of here. They can probably get something for Cooper Cup at this point. Pukka Nakua maybe even go ahead and get rid of him. They were talking about being sellers. Then everybody gets healthy and I feel like this young defense kind of molded, came together. They kicked absolute wholesale ass last night against the Minnesota Vikings offense yeah and a lot of people were saying that they took Aaron Glenn's playbook I don't see it like that they got they were getting after him with four and they had some disguises but they were getting after him before young and first off the edges they just kept collapsing the pocket all

night long and they had great coverage on the back and as well was in the receivers faces pressing guys covering guys Kobe Durant had a Great pick on the out route So they I mean coach Shula first years at DC for the Rams and just a bunch of young guys Contributing playing huge huge roles that don't have first country From a Chuck Vagano tweet took a screenshot of his television pretty blurry took a screenshot of his television, pretty blurry. Didn't really know what the photo was. Chuck Bar. But Chuck was like, hey, last name Shula.

Yeah, that family calling a game incredibly. And his biggest moment, wild card against Kevin O'Connell in this Minnesota Vikings offense. Now, you talk to Minnesota Vikings fans after that Lions game, They said it was over. And I was trying to tell them, just like we were trying to tell our Steelers friends, like, hey, you're in a playoffs.

What are we? What 14 games? You were trying to play for the number one overall seed in the NFC. You're talking home field advantage, literally 48 hours ago. Now you think it's over there. Got exposed. Vikings fans almost felt like

what they were in that Lions game is what they had been all year. They just were kind of disguising, disguising, disguising, disguising. And I think that's potentially because they're naturally a pessimistic bunch with the Minnesota Vikings, which I think they're great fans. I think they're loud, but I think they do have a sense of like, it's going to go bad. This has happened a lot. It's going to go bad for the Minnesota. I don't love that for them because especially with what they have to go through to get to games with how cold it is in that city and in that place and how loud that stadium is how cool their traditions are how sweet their fits are they got sweet merch. Oh, yeah, sweet unis

I mean the purple we come from a purple high school, but everything about it is sweet The all-whites the hell everything sweet about the Vikings is awesome Kevin O'Connell can drop a play for anybody be open Justin Jefferson number one wide receiver in the entire league his Celebration actually became an international phenomenon like the Vikings have Everything you could possibly want to be team But their fans as soon as they lose the lines way they did just knew this ain't good and last night It was kind of like that now. I saw Dan or Lovsky kind of getting dunked on sure as he does. On first.

As Dan do. He was getting dunked on on first take. And he said, you think that's Sam Donald's fault? You think that's Sam Donald's fault? I think against the Lions, when Sam Donald was missing everything high, I think that's when the conversation started about like, there he is, there he is.

People are almost waiting for him. Then they lose last night. He gets sacked nine times. It is what it is. Makes a couple of sick times It is what it is makes a couple sick plays late You know makes a couple sick plays late where he's rolling right throws back across his body to the tight end showcases everything that he is But there was a time this season where we were wondering what's gonna happen with Sam Darno next year Is he gonna get paid 50 million a year? He's Sam Darno gonna get paid 45 million a year by somebody There's gonna be seven quarterback needy teams. There's only a few college quarterbacks even though I think they're

discounting Will Howard a lot I think they're just gonna Will Howard a lot I think he's good player I think Will Howard is a good ball player and he's big somebody Riley too and he can get Riley Leonard I think he's phenomenally athletic and I think he's throwing his best balls he said so everybody's saying that this quarterback class is down I think Will Howard and yeah maybe even Riley and obviously Cam Ward is a dog and a great leader shots Carson Beck going down and get big double I guess wild which is wild to think about because what can what was able to do I assume Carson's gonna be able to do the

exact same and then obviously should or in this whole thing with the Dallas Cowboys coming out now it's getting even louder but there's still gonna be teams that need a quarterback with what Sam Darnold was able to do this year. They're gonna pay him so much money. And these last couple weeks, it feels like we all agree, like, I don't know if that huge deal was coming. Sam's gonna have to do the same thing he did this year somewhere, probably.

13 million is what he got paid this year, allegedly, in the end, after bonuses and escalators. He's gonna have to do that again, probably, after what just happened in the final two weeks. I'm not saying that's fair yeah that's that's I'm not saying that is that is how it should be that is very much the world that we live in for Sam Darn and that just feels like it's a matter of fact at this point will team drop 25 million yes on Sam Darnall let's go to one half of

the hammer cowboys a P tone who doesn't have a signed quarterback for his team are you talking about for the Pittsburgh Steelers? Absolutely would for 25 million a year. Absolutely. I saw someone earlier. He gives Sam Darnal 20 million a year? Yeah. 25?

30. 35. 35 million. Wow. 35.5? That's a steal. 35? Now he's still the best free agent quarterback available

coming out by far. So I heard someone earlier today project something like Baker's deal, which was like three for a hundred. I can see Sam Donald still get that. I would pay Sam Donald that for sure. Okay. So the Pittsburgh Steelers would pay Sam Donald three years, a hundred million dollars to be their quarterback for the next three years.

I think if you look back and that's what, here's what Kevin O'Connell actually had to say after the game, whenever he was asked about how we should view Sam Thornhill going into this free agency offseason. You know I think it's important that we look at it really two ways. You know football wise, playing the position of quarterback, you know areas that we can really focus on to improve, areas as an offense where we can pick our quarterback up with a little bit of execution, give him another click when it is a four-man rush, you know, whatever it is, we've got to find a way to look at it from that standpoint.

But also I just want to say, you know, I think it's very important we all think about, you know, Sam's body of work, what he was able to do this year, when not very many people thought he would be able to lead a team to 14 wins. Very rare for a quarterback in their first year. In fact, it is rare, the most wins by a first year quarterback with a team. And just the way he came in, committed himself to just a daily process to be the best version of himself. It did not work out in the end.

And I think Sam would be the first version of himself. It did not work out in the end. And I think Sam would be the first one to tell you. Could he have played better tonight? I'm sure he would tell you that he could have. Just talk to him. Could I have coached better? I promise you I could have. Could our team have rallied around a play here or there to try to keep that thing competitive?

For sure. But the other phase of it for Sam is acknowledging the things that made him a winning quarterback this year and the consistency at the times he had it throughout the year and what that meant for our team. Cuz I think that can stay with him moving forward as he goes back to work. Proud of him, proud of really everybody in that locker room. But Sam and the journey him and I went on this year will always be something that's a special place in my heart for sure.

Certainly, it'll always be something there. We had a good run. Now, everybody's assuming that that means he's not going to be back for the Minnesota Vikings after listening to that particular take. I don't know if he gave that away in that particular conversation. What did you hear from Coach Kevin O'Connell who we have? Massive respect for I think that is something that needs to be said not only just as a play designer play caller But also as a head coach there was a clip that was either recirculated this year or

Released for the first time where last year after a loss he goes in a locker room He basically, you know, he he says how it is to the team He says we're either gonna go one way or we're gonna go another. Wow, raising his voice and swearing a little bit. And it was a little coaching. It felt like it was a little coaching. It was a little bit of a perspective setter for the team.

So we respect him as a coach, play caller, and play designer. What did you hear from him right there? And are you think people are gonna listen to what he had to say about his experience with Sam this year and say, yeah, we will pay him will pay him 35 40 million still even though the last two games were clearly the worst for the Vikings offense as a whole Yeah, they were they were crap and I think as fans A lot of us would just look at and that's what you'll remember is the last couple of times

We saw Sam Dono some of the biggest games for the one seed and then obviously on a playoff stage But you will hope that like the evaluators, the front office people, maybe some potential offensive coordinators will look at the whole body of work and look at, okay, this is the new version of Sam Darno. Did he play his best ball at the end? No, he didn't.

But when you come in, winning 14 games, first year of the new team, you had a good system, you had good players around him. If you can do that again and recreate that system with Sam Darno, I think he will be a good good quarterback probably a better option than a lot of teams have right now He could still be a top 15 quarterback going into next year I think he showed that we know the talent and How people thought about him and viewed him coming out of college and this is kind of who you expect him to be on this

Level did struggle at the end no doubt about that But I think a lot of people will look at him as a potential replacement or upgrade at the quarterback position. I just, I feel like what you said too, about Kevin O'Connell, how much respect we all have for him, and like, I love Sam Darnold, and I love the redemption stories like- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I really do, I genuinely do. The locker room video? The locker room video is awesome. Use up all your money now, they granted it. They're lifting him up, they're dumping water. Thank you, he has like 15 points or something What was the stat since the?

Sam Darnold celebration video in the locker 12 points 12. Okay, so I think I think a lot of it of course That was a cool moment. It was yeah without loss and without a great play the whole year. It's awesome I think a majority of this is Kevin O'Connell Justin Jefferson Jordan Addison Aaron Jones the team around him Like I I think you could put a lot of quarterbacks in that situation and that'd be great. Now, if you're telling me he can go to Pittsburgh and do the exact same thing, I think you're a batshit crazy. I don't see how that could ever work just because what Minnesota has is so quarterback friendly. And Baker and Gino, both those situations, Baker's got now Bucky Irvin, but Mike Evans Evans Chris Godwin

Great situations canalis and then Cohen who I guess is now gonna be you know The next quarterback guru offensive genius and then with Gino obviously didn't go well this year But when it did go well DK Metcalf Kenneth Walker like the situations around these guys who get you know Those redemption stories are so great where if Darnold were to leave a Justin Jefferson and all those guys like I think it'd be very hard for him to do that again. Carson Wentz missed his redemption story this year whenever he had that one game for the Chiefs there the end 37 zip they end up losing to the Broncos but yeah that next chapter that came in for a lot of these guys that was beautiful and fun to watch yeah I think situationally

they were all very beneficial. Much more beneficial than the first time around, whenever you're getting drafted at a high spot, because of how good you are. But if you're getting drafted in a high position, that probably means the team not going to be great. That's how the NFL kind of operates. It's not a lottery.

It's not just a ball popping out and saying who goes when. It's like, hey, who stinks the most? Gets an opportunity to get the best player or best players in this particular draft It's crazy the Sam Darnold story in the Minnesota Vikings story He's just one of many that are gonna pop off this offseason joining us now as a man It might give us a little bit more information on what we need to be talking about senior NFL insider for ESPN who? Is it a middle of a cowboy story that is potentially sports media shattering?

Whoa, yes, it involves a lot of things that sports media can and has revolved around. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Chef D. Hey, Chef D. Chef D, hey, thank you so much for joining us. I know you had a flight late last night to get back home. So I appreciate you being on top of it. Let's dive right in.

We're just wrapping up the Sam Donald Vikings conversation after the last two games Sam Donald has had There are some people in here that are Pittsburgh Steelers fans who say I'd pay that guy three years 100 million dollars to be our quarterback going forward because they don't have a quarterback Then there's other people who do have a quarterback could say did Sam Donald miss out on 120 million dollars over the last couple weeks What are your thoughts on the Sam Donald situation and what do you think happens with he and the Vikings going forward, just from where we sit today,

one day after their loss, season ending loss? Well, I still think he's probably the number one free agent quarterback available in a market where there are any number of teams that need quarterbacks that will not be able to get the quarterback that they need in the draft and so he's going to be a Desired commodity, but you can't look at the last two weeks and think that he enhanced his value I think he had a chance to kind of blow the roof off his value and they lost at Detroit and they lost last night

Sacked nine times, blame the offensive line, blame whoever you want. But those are not his best and finest back-to-back games of the season. And he played exceptionally well all year long and he boosted his value. And everybody saw the type of quarterback that Sam Darnold is, but the last two weeks clearly I think impacted his value in a negative way. But we'll see how much he's still the best raging quarterback out there. And so you have to think somebody is going to value that a tremendous amount. The question is how much.

So does that mean that that's good news for the Vikings who potentially weren't going to be able to get to the number that maybe another team was? But now there's a chance that the value has been brought down just a tiny bit where the Vikings would be able to dance even though they have to pay Addison have already paid Justin Jefferson and have many other names on the team that are gonna get paid big dollars It's a great question Pat. I don't know that we know the answer to that right now I think it's gonna depend on what the market bears, right?

If there's a team out there Allah the Raiders the Giants the Steelers whoever it is that needs a quarterback to earn a number of them that do, that looks at Sam Dornal from this year and says, okay, we're going to pay the guy $40 million, whatever it is, that they may get it to a number that may be out of the Vikings' range. Got it. But it's possible that the last two weeks impacted the number enough so that maybe it's within the range of the Vikings asking price and they can get a deal done and bring him back. But again, I think here's the thing.

They have J.J. McCarthy waiting in the wings. They really like J.J. McCarthy. They don't know exactly what they have, but they love what they saw this summer. He spent a good part of the year rehabbing, so you're not going through practices. You don't really know for sure what you have. You think you have a quarterback, but you don't know you have a quarterback. So I think in a perfect world, you'd like to have Sam Darnold back if you could, but there may be a team out there that's willing to pay him more than the Vikings are. I think there's a wide range of outcomes here. Yeah. So they got a reserve on, you know, if it

hits the reserve, it can go somewhere else. If it doesn't, we're going to end up paying that. I wonder if that's a percentage of the salary cap is the number or if it's an actual hard number with how the entire thing is going. You mentioned a couple other stories that we'll certainly get to, but on the other side, we'd be remiss

if we didn't talk about the Rams, who just got a massive win. It feels like in the middle of the season, we're chatting about maybe the Rams being sellers at the trade deadline. Then they get healthy. Yo, look, they've won another playoff game. This is Sean McVay football.

This is Matthew Stafford football. What do you think was the big change or turning point this year? Was it just health and getting everybody back on the field for the LA Rams? And I don't know if I saw this coming. I'm gonna be honest with this particular Rams team coming into the season, going through the season and then watching that last night, buzzsaw Los Angeles Rams right there.

Well you know Pat, I don't know if they saw it coming. I think that they thought that they had the potential to be good but they didn't know which way it was gonna go and you mentioned that leading up to the trade deadline, they were waiting to see which way this team would go. And I think it was the Thursday night game against Minnesota that they won that pushed them more towards going for it this year, whereas if they had lost that game, it's possible they then would have approached the trade deadline differently, listened to offers on certain veterans, a la a Cooper Cup that they never got to. Never got to that point. But did it come up, hey, if we're knocked out here, is this something that we should do? That's a conversation to that extent that came up.

But they won. And they moved forward. And the young defense got better and better and better. And Cooper Cup came back and Puka Nakua came back. When you watch Puka when he comes back, I mean, that just feels like it's everything because that guy is dynamic and changes the way the offense is run. It feels like the offense runs through him and Kyron Williams. And they've just gotten better and better and better to the point where last night, in talking to that team this weekend, they said last week might have been the single best week of practices that they've had all year long.

And they had that with all the adversity going on with them moving to Arizona with their city being on fire. I think there was so much that they were going through, but I think going to Arizona focused this team in exactly and Sean McVeigh kept telling this team we're built for this we're built for this and exactly what he told the team in the postgame speech last night after they sacked Sam Duttle nine times and trounced the Vikings and moved on to play the Eagles on Sunday in Philadelphia. The LAFD hats to them.

Just sweet. It was cool. And can't once again say it enough, Cardinals, first class operation over there. They put up a list of other things that they did and how about the paint, the grounds crew. It looked like when you're watching a game, it was a Rams home game. You felt like it was a Rams home game. 52,000 tickets sold in 20 minutes or something, or two hours. I forget what it was. By the way, Pat, I'm standing in the back there and I was standing with the Rams

You like you notice the signage? I'm like what's I like it was right in front of my face But I'm sometimes oblivious enough that I didn't even notice You know, they had that big red zone thing that back it was covered with a so five hat or a blue so fire I'm like ever I ninja around the stadium. They they tried to turn that place into every time they were playing, every time they were playing, every time they were playing, every time they were playing, every time they were playing,

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every time they were playing, every time they were playing, every time they were playing, every time they. I was watching and they were showing the guy painting, you know, and it's like, that's not an easy logo. At all. If you haven't done it, like there's like a lot of this, there's like a lot of it. It was, I just appreciated the amount of effort in buy-in from all parties to make this happen because obviously force major is taking place in LA and once again, can't say it enough Tease and peace to everybody over there in LA the videos are devastating

I believe Aaron is either gonna come on tomorrow the next day cuz he's in the middle of all the yeah I mean it is Wow I was just in San Jose last night and playing sat in the FBO for like 15- 20 minutes with Gumpy and we got a chance to talk to a little bit of locals there. Then I'm talking about the fires that happen in California every single year and then in comparison what this one is and why. Their knowledge on fires is just so, because I come from Pittsburgh, which I think it reigns the second most in America, like behind Seattle.

So fires were never even a thought in Pittsburgh, so I never even knew about it. Then learning about it now through this entire situation, and then talking to locals, it's like, that's a real thing every year, I guess. All the time fires are. That one just because of the way the winds, and where it went, and how, and you just can't predict it, because the winds are just taking it, pull.

Those pictures, man, hey, we are so sorry you're going through it but once again we'll be the dipshit sort of try to distract try to distract now we go from Rams house in Arizona to Jerry world in Arlington okay is there a way we can get Tim Tebow and LeBron James involved in this as well because we got Dion Sanders Jerry Jones in Dallas Cowboys in a hiring cycle that has Shador Sanders as one of the top quarterbacks in the draft class. This sounds like it's made up literally in an ESPN lab. How real is this and what do we think in the chances of Coach Prime

having a star on his hat actually are Well a few things here. First of all last night. I spoke to prime in the second half of the game he called me after his dinner and I put out basically One of the things they said and you texted me like what does this mean? There's the statement right to hear from Jerry Jones is truly delightful and it's intriguing I love Jerry and believe in Jerry after you hang up and process it and think about it. It's intriguing. But I love Boulder and everything there is about our team, the coaches, our

student body and the community. And you texted me and said, what does that mean? I can tell you this, having spoken to him, the way that I took it was he was not interested in going to the NFL. He was not thinking or planning to go to the NFL. It may not even happen that he goes to the NFL, but because he loves and respects Jerry Jones so much, when Jerry calls, of course, he's going to talk to him. And he was intrigued, to use his word, intrigued to speak to Jerry Jones. He heaped all kinds of praise on Colorado. He's

been talking to the athletic director there. I'm sure I could say this in the back of my mind. Probably there's money involved. I don't think that's a ridiculous notion when it comes to Prime, who's been an incredible businessman throughout his entire career. But I said to him at the end of the conversation, Pat, I what's next what happens now and he said to me I don't know I say you don't know what happens next are you gonna I don't know so I think right now everything is in the beginning stages there's no meeting plan with Jerry right now but clearly the lines of communication are open they're gonna be in touch and I think it goes for both sides Dion Sanders is figuring out what's best for him is it best to stay in school?

His sons are leaving. He's got recruits coming in. Does he want to be there? Does the school look out for him? Does he want to go to Dallas does Jerry want to go move in that direction to hire him? You know, again, and I said this to Ty this morning, we're taping my podcast. About 16, 17 months ago, October 23, a GM in the league called me. He said, get out your pen and paper and write this down. Dion Sanders is going to be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm like, okay, I've heard it down.

And I saved some pictures of the two of them for the time when it would become relevant. So last night I'm going through my phone back to October, November of 23. They're the pictures that I've been saving for the day that this GM had told me about this actual event potentially happening. And I think it still could go a lot of ways. The Cowboys are going to go into a coaching search. They may fall for somebody, they may be impressed with somebody,

they may move in the direction that's not Deion related, but it may be that of all the people that they talk with and meet with, nobody impresses or interests them as much as Deion Sanders does. So I think right now, they're navigating it, Deion's navigating it, they're both an option for each other,

and we'll see where it goes. A lot happened when Deion Sanders had that star on his helmet. I mean all the highlights that we get a chance to watch, all of the, you know, it all comes on that AstroTurf. You know, we see his sick shoes. He's faster than everybody. He's more athletic than everybody. He was gonna be more flash than everybody.

And I think all of that happened because he was gonna outwork everybody. And I think that is why Jerry Jones probably took such a liking to prime time. Cause he was everything that embodied basically the Dallas Cowboys. Works his ass off, successful, flashy. Listen, we're gonna be a brand.

We're gonna be flashy. We're gonna be internationally known. We're gonna be comfortable in the spotlight So I think Jerry and prime this just from outside looking in not having any actual relationship really with either of them Feels like they're almost made for each other So then now coach prime has proved that he's a coach that can you know get men to follow He has proved he's been able to go into a place that maybe seemed hopeless, which some people, if you listen to Troy Eggman, would say that Dallas Cowboys might currently be a little bit hopeless.

Not that Troy meant that, but he kind of insinuated, like, I don't know if that's a desirable place. And then also you think about just the fact that any time Prime walks into a room, he immediately gets the respect from everybody inside of it, let alone how he operates. There was something that just came out. Prime's not letting any slides, no tank tops, no nothing basically around the

Colorado building and I was a little bit upset about the tank top thing. I'm like, hey whoa, that doesn't mean you're not professional wearing tank top. But it's like everything that Prime is about seemingly would be great for the Cowboys to have in there. Now granted, can it work? Will it work? I have no idea. Will he want to do it? Will Jerry want to do it? I have no idea. But it feels like what Coach Prime is about, which people don't expect, like the accountability, this, you need to show up, you need to work, we need to win, you need to be confident, we need to everything, all the darn things, man, that he talks about. It's like that's what football is kind of getting back to right now. It feels like if you start

looking around at different places, he's a culture setter plus he is a brand that is associated with Dallas already feels like it would make sense what do you want to leave? Big personality. Go ahead. I was going to say I'm sorry to cut you out there but he's a culture setter he's a big personality he fits all into Jerry's ideas like that. And I think the other thing to tie in what Troy was saying, I think Dion is smart enough, experienced enough, savvy enough to be able to be willing to do that job on Jerry's terms, which is always key to that job. I think that's,

I don't want to speak for Troy, but in my read was that's what he was referencing, that things in Dallas are done on Jerry's terms and that's not great for everybody but Deion Sanders has been in Jerry's world he knows how it works he knows what Jerry's looking for and I think if the Cowboys decided that Deion were the guy and if Deion decided that that interested him Deion would know exactly what he's signing up for and he could navigate that job on Jerry's terms. Yeah, and Dion might have enough Relationship with Jerry to be like nah, you know like that ain't we're not doing that. Maybe we should do this That's the other thing

Yeah Go ahead what Jerry have that that same respect for him to kind of I guess take a step back in some terms because they are Big personalities and obviously they know each other very very well, but being the head coach I'm sure he would want some some say so and personnel especially with you know Our hands-on he is with building a college program So it'd be it'll be it would be very very interesting kind of the notion and I didn't know this because I hadn't paid attention To the Dallas Cowboys enough no No disrespecting like legitimately. I do not mean that as disrespect. I just didn't pay attention close enough to the day-to-days

They say that there's like a narrative that Anytime somebody gets bigger than a star Jerry don't like it like Jimmy Johnson allegedly got bigger Than Dallas Cowboys brand and anytime that happens Jerry don't like prime coming in there. He's he's already yeah his own Jerry would be able to handle that a superstar superstar? That is also the head coach? Hey, I think if Jerry could take back Jimmy now, I don't know how I feel about it, but I think he trade a lot for another Super Bowl title. However that came to him, he'd be willing to go through a lot for that. And it's been a while since they've won. And if beyond- What's the likelihood? You said he, Prime told you he doesn't know because he doesn't know what

Jerry wants. He also doesn't know because he doesn't know what Jerry wants He also doesn't know how it's gonna be set up laid out Yeah, there's a lot of question marks so from all in your mind in the history of covering the NFL What is the likelihood that coach prime is coaching the Dallas Cowboys next season? Well, all I could say is it's only a possibility Right now which again gives you enough content to talk about. It's possible. Thanks, man. Thanks for the question, Byron. But let me give you more, right? I think, in my mind, I think Jason Whitten would be possible.

That's another one. Fresh off a Texas high school state championship. Come on. That's a Texas high school state championship. Come on, man. They just won a high school state championship in Texas, but do you know what that means, but? Do you know what it... That ain't real. What? Whoa, that's the state championship in Texas, but do you know what that means boy? Do you know what that ain't real? What? Oh, that's a real serious. Wow. I don't know if you know what you're talking about

I'm willing to wager anything that Jason Witten isn't the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I Think Jeff there is too No, I'm not I I I. I put him in the possibility category, like I put Prime in the possibility category, and we're all waiting to see what Jerry decides to do. I'm not telling you that he's going to be the head coach, but I definitely would not dismiss Jason Winton from this conversation. Definitely not. I would like to say that it is a shame, okay? And this is happened with you I think and probably happened with many when I heard Jason Witten's name they thought to himself the guy in the booth on Monday night football. Ebukun, Ebukim, Ebukim, grabbing at the foot. Remember on the field dog in a locker room be loved. I got a

chance to see him kind of work at a Pro Bowl everybody loves that guy legitimately I think the booth has potentially jaded a lot. Huh? Okay, see that of what the job was. He threw his ass in there and everybody forgot how good of a football player that guy was. It legitimately happens just like that. People can forget. Legend on the football field, beloved by teammates

and by everybody that I saw him interact with. And he just wanted to exercise cool state championship. That boy can coach, put a whistle in his hand. The boy's gonna do something for him. By the way, they put him in the booth because of the guy he is, because of the mind he has, because of the player he was, because of all those things, which is exactly all the traits that would make him, again, a possibility.

A possibility here. And I think everybody has seen what Dan Campbell's done in Detroit and the culture He's brought there and the impact he's had on the roster in the city I think people are looking for that type of thing and I'm just telling you like a couple people said hey That's the kind of impact they think Jason Whitten could have if given that you know again, you're projecting a high school coach, but But no, I got, but again, people are who they are. And Jason Witten take out the Monday Night Footballers has been an enormous success at

everything he's ever done. Agreed. Football wise, other than the both. The both was rude rude both is tough They part is not easy not in on Monday night football. You're thrusted in front of millions You don't get the afternoon time slot to kind of cut your teeth with a couple hundred thousand people watching you get the rest Right in the limelight. He was not ready for that particular role

Is he when it comes to football and coaching we shall see if he ends up being in the middle of it all. 12 37 Eastern Time, Shefty I believe uh are you getting an update? No. One of these times you're gonna break news. Well Mike Tomlin just said in Pittsburgh that he imagines that there's gonna be a lot of change there on a lot of levels in Pittsburgh Whatever that means. Whoa, the press goes he just said that okay. So on that note tone has a question for you shifty Yeah, what kind of levels are we are we talking there DC? Maybe speculate a little bit Well again both their quarterbacks are free agents for starters, right?

They've got a number of free agents. And so we'll see how that works out. But I mean, look, they finished the season with five straight losses. They've lost six straight postseason games. I think that they recognize that they're going gonna have to change some things there, whatever that is. And we said before, I don't see that ownership group, they're not moving on from Mike Tomlin. I don't care how many people in the city of Pittsburgh aren't happy with the results or

Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin is a great head coach. He's gonna be the head coach there. He's got a no trade clause in his contract. So any team that's looked into it and there have been teams has been advised that there's a no trade clause in his contract. By Toma controls it. Owners aren't getting rid of them. And now they have to sit down, examine the roster and figure out what they're going to do to get this team back to where they belong. Like their drought is eight, eight, how many years, eight years without a playoff? They belong like their drought is what eight eight how many years eight years without a playoff of course

It's also Never having a losing season, which is a massive compliment obviously to be able to have an above 500 record every year But when you do that you're picking 16 to 23 in the draft every single time So, you know, you're not getting a chance because Mike Thomas even said to chase young I believe I'm never gonna lose enough games to get a guy that looks like you okay And that's what Steelers fans are saying we're never with Tom We're gonna be able to lose enough games to get a game changer not to chase young as I'm just saying the body Style in the freaks that are up at the top. Where's the TJ? What where they get TJ? What what number was he 30? 29 to 32 somewhere in there

Yeah, that's right. Yeah game changer. Yeah, what was Tom Brady drafted? He was pretty good 199 fuck it. Why don't you just get rid of all your picks before 198? You know what I mean? I'm party just so why you don't even need huh? Yeah, was that the last pick of the 265 who needs any other pick? I knew found found a dead leg. I just I just retweeted a Rams video With 30 13 when they drafted Puka in the fifth round. Like, did. So why do you not even need draft picks? What do we even have a draft order for?

Find him, Tony. Find a quarterback in the draft this year. Yeah, figure it out, bro. I didn't say anything about the draft. Can he pick it? 21. Yeah. Sit in there. Bring him home.

Wait a minute, he might be Super Bowl champion this year. I don't care what team it is Everybody hits and everybody whiffs. Well, the better teams hit more than they miss everybody misses See it either they're gonna check less needs resume here if he keeps going the way he is all games Like wow this guy this guy's unbelievable what he's doing. Okay, so the Pittsburgh Steelers gonna be changes at all levels So that all the levels of an organization, there's ownership, then there's general manager and front office, then there's coaching, then there's scouting departments, then there's assistant coaches,

there's graduate assistant coaches, then there's like coffee breaks, then there's like ticket sales. What are all levels? Training, training room, cafeteria, equipment room. That's all levels, right? Ground-keeping. Yep.

We need better grass. Because remember, they had to go to the stadium to go and practice. Anybody can get it. All levels, everybody's going. Holy shit. That's a mass exodus, Don. You know what that means?

You know what that means? It means Tone is a Steelers fan, maybe in trouble. Like all levels, including the fans. We had to change this up. Do whatever it takes to change what hasn't worked. Couldn couldn't agree more. Kick the guy out of the fan. He was doing sets of $495 on bench so he could hear we go with Steelers fans unite. Getting rid of the towels. Completely duffy. They're knocking it. That's change at all Nah, don't you even think about breaking it. Changing Renegade, we're changing Renegade. Whoa, breaking!

No, I'm in fear for your life if you keep talking about it, the way you're talking about it right now. Terrible Towns stay. Doesn't sound like it. Renegade stays. What about that stupid Super Bowl song? Here we go. Steelers, here we go.

Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. Here we go. Mike Tomlin's firing everyone. Here we go. Because they can't get the job done. Here we go. All levels gonna see new faces, because this place stinks day in day out Here we go

Yeah, there we go. Maybe they get their own practice facility to yeah, that's what that one with Pittsburgh University of Pittsburgh Yeah, that universities are in that entire city. Well actually you already paid for a lot of it So yeah, they also just posted something about like they beat West Virginia in every sport What they put a shooting they put a pic? I don't know if Pittsburgh has a rifle team on it if it's allowed but Every sport basically these in the capture was pretty good said country was And they did you know the whole having a good time check that tweet Yeah, it just way rich Rod's back though. Don't you worry about that?

Okay, there's a there's a new West Virginia coming to town. Congrats to Pitt Okay, let's talk about another team that needs all the help it can get maybe even a new Super Bowl song Go ahead con man. Yeah, after you say every team hits and misses the Jets don't hit they've kind of just missed What is the situation with their head coach and search? We saw a report that it is highly highly highly, highly three of them unlikely that Rex Ryan will be the head coach. Do they have a leader in the clubhouse there? Are they still kind of getting down to their finalists for their head coaching job?

Well, it feels like their search is expanding rather than contracting. It just feels like there are more and more candidates interviewed there all the time. I think they're being very thorough in their approach. I expect that later this week that they'll begin whittling it down to second interviews for candidates for GMs, maybe even head coaches, depending on the schedule. I still think that when you're looking at the Jets, I believe Aaron Glenn is square in play there as one of the potential guys. Aaron Glenn is going to get a job in this cycle. Ben Johnson is going to get a job in this cycle. And I think that there's every possibility and probably likelihood that the Lions are going to be

losing both their coordinators in this cycle. I'd be really surprised if both of them didn't come out of this with head coaching jobs and I think Aaron Glenn is somebody that already is getting a lot of tension with the Jets, a lot of tension in New Orleans and like I said it'd be a major upset to me if he didn't come out of this with a job. Did he play there? He was there? Yeah. This would be going back. He played there, started his scouting career there, I think he coached it like everything VRAIBs it's just like VRAIBs going up to New England understanding the situation would just be like prime by the way going to Dallas so if Rable gets hired in New England as a former player and Aaron Glenn gets hired in New York is a former

player prime maybe Dallas will follow that model too yeah that's what I was saying is they all kind of know how the shit goes you know like the question with the Jets I assume for a lot of great candidate coaching candidates and there's a lot of Jets fans around the WWE crew so it's kind of fun to chit chat and watch their misery and really live through it it's like there's a lot of coaches that have heard everything about Woody Johnson you know and he's not an ambassador for the next four years he is gonna be in the building and one way or another, I know Woody's team isn't gonna like to hear this, people hate working for you brother, like that

is just kind of seemingly how it goes from a coaching department whenever people leave. Now does everybody hate the place that they worked at if they get fired or move on? Potentially, you have to weigh all those things, but for these high, you know, highly sought-after coaching candidates Are you just gonna sign up to work for Woody Johnson? I don't know if that's a lot of people's like move but Aaron Glenn been there done that Understands the situation we assume and would hopefully be able to command enough respect around a building to be able to handle That's I think just like you would think Vrabes Yeah with the Patriots with the crafts because they know each other just like you would think prime

Just like you would think Vrabes with the Patriots, with the Krabs because they know each other. Just like you would think Prime with Jerry because they know each other. But is that reality or not? I don't know the world. You know what? Here's the thing. I was on the phone with one of the candidates that interviewed with the Jets and he's like, I talked with Woody.

He was great. And the thing is they haven't won. So if we went back and talked to the people that were working for Woody when Rex was coaching there and Tan and Malmah, like I'll bet you they might not say things quite as negative about Woody, but when you're not winning and the owner's involved then it's easy to just go rip on the guy. I got it. And yes, there are a lot of people that have not enjoyed working for Woody. But I think it's a byproduct. It's sort of like the disgruntled locker room. You can go into any losing locker room and find people that are unhappy with the coaches

and the front-off because they're not winning. And then go into a winning team and see how many people you don't hear as much. Winning silences it all. Losing exacerbates it all. And it's pretty simple. Now, again, the Jets have done something wrong for a long time because they haven't won playoff games they've been irrelevant they haven't come through but I think pinning it on Woody at times is deserved but it's low-hanging fruit to me. I agree and his

17 year old son deserves some blame too but the whatever I'm joking obviously in this situation that whole story was certainly seemed fake to read And I understand what you're saying too You can always find somebody that is saying somebody else screwed them You know on a bar stool like this person screwed me an injury I would have done this the coach didn't like me this whole thing So I understand that there is a lot of disgruntledness to things But coaches get fired from a lot of places and we don't hear the shit that we hear about Woody now Is it because it's New York and it's a lot bigger spotlight? Maybe.

But maybe that's also an opportunity for Woody to look in the mirror and be like, Hey, maybe, maybe I can learn from this and evolve. So the Jets can be great because the Jets fans, boy, they're riding with them. These people would just do it. They're just, they're just in the. I mean, I respect it. Me too. Sitting, you know, sticking by franchise through shitty times, decades, generations. I mean, I respect it. Me too. Just sitting, you know, sticking by franchise through shitty times, decades, generations. I mean, I couldn't do it. There's a Louise who works for the WWE.

He's a Commanders fan. Been a Commanders fan his whole life. And his kid is 28 years old. Had never seen him win. Wow. Had never seen him win. So he almost got, like, choked up when I was talking to him yesterday.

He was like, my son, like, finally got a chance to, like, celebrate. Like, that's a beautiful thing. Hopefully the Jets fans will be able to do yesterday. He was like, my son, like, finally got crazy. Like, like celebrate. Like, that's a beautiful thing. Hopefully the Jets fans will be able to do that. There's another coach that was made on the market yesterday that we were just talking about a little bit late into the process. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, Sheffi, when it comes to Mike McCarthy, we know the Bears want an interview with him and then also the Saints. There's a report that came out today that basically said like, hey, if McCarthy, obviously this wouldn't happen in Chicago, but if McCarthy were to get hired by the Saints, he'd have interest in a potential reunion with Aaron Rodgers. What is the likelihood that

McCarthy is going to get a head coaching job in this cycle? And can you see a world in which him and Rodgers are paired up again this coming year? All the big swings and all the big topics today right? We get everything going on in Dallas and now we're gonna marry up Rogers and Mike McCarthy again. I you know first and foremost when you're having Aaron on next tomorrow is that right? Yeah I think it's about chaos right now over in Southern California obviously he's in the middle of it right now but I think tomorrow or the next thing. Yeah well hopefully everything's okay out there and when you get him on I I think the first thing is whether he wants to play like

when he's Committed to playing then you could begin to discuss all these options and whether that would be I think New Orleans is Financially committed is financially committed to Derek Carr. Now we'll see how that plays out. You're gonna have a new head coach, he'll have ideas. But the cap situation is such that I think he's on their books for like 40 million and if they move on,

they only gain like $2 million. So either way, he's counting for like $38 million. My math might be a little off but not terribly in that ballpark And so I I think that I think they're kind of committed They have to be committed to Derek Carr, whoever the head coach is. So stinks I mean maybe Mike McCarty if if if Mike McCarthy gets that job and if Aaron Rodgers wants to play and if they have the conversation and if they there's a lot of ifs that have to happen before we could get there in my mind. Well how about if Big Mike McCarthy the prodigal, Jinser's son, goes back to Pittsburgh to

be offensive coordinator then Mike Tomlin just said he's not committed to Fields or Russell Wilson willing to look to see what's available outside in his presser just as of moments ago reported by Mark Caboli now big Mike McCarthy's the offensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers and who's the quarterback Aaron fucking Roger Wow Mike Tomlin's the coach we're getting changes at all levels where levels oh see sorry Artie you're out of here we're bringing in big Mike who understands what's going on around here isn't a big jag off not that you are But isn't a jag off like everybody else He's gonna feel obligated to win one for the time in which he grew up and who knows your offense better anybody

Well, Aaron hold me create sweet. He's available bang Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh tone did his first reaction I thought you're gonna say Dak. Um But Aaron Aaron would but Aaron Aaron Oh my Not interested Wow, all right As we get out of here chef T and kind of wrap up this entire combo D bud has come question for you Yes, chef to be following your Twitter account X account. So you put some names out there with some potential GM candidates for some teams We got a graphic with the the firings that have become available any other potential candidates

We know I feel like we know most of the head coaching candidates is gonna be higher in this cycle But any potential GM candidates that we might not been hearing about that could better maybe picking up momentum towards some of these teams You know again, I think you're hearing a lot about a guy in Kansas City Mike Borganzi like like the Titans list right that they're bringing in for second interviews here uh Just let me open up one second right so we got on that list and I think these are some of the names You're hearing about Terrence gray the bills director of player personnel Player Personnel, Ian Cunningham,

the Bears Assistant GM, John Spytek, the Bucs Assistant GM, Mike Borganzi, Ed Dodds, John Eric Sullivan with the Titans as well. He's the Packers. Oh, those guys. Those are the names that seem to be coming up here. And I don't know that a lot of fans know them, but these are the guys behind the scenes that are doing their work and a little bit of anonymity. And now they're getting their turn in the spotlight, which is deserved.

And we'll see which of them can come through and land a couple of these GMs. We've got the Raiders GM job, the Titans GM job, the Jets GM job, right? I think those are the three right now. Patriots GM job, but then there's the Elliott Wolf. Elliott Wolf, well, I don't even think he's got the GM title, but he's staying in his job. job but no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Yeah, well, now he's got an assistant VP of player personnel in Ryan Cowden. So he's not even close to the GM.

So yeah, but this guy's not. Rabe's gonna be a GM? This dude's coming in. Yeah, to work under him. So these guys are working for Rabe's. Yeah, so Rabe's. Is that what's happening? Rabe's is...

Rabe's is the man. Hell yeah, he is! You said it, brother! Congrats, Rabe's. He is the man! Hey, he's earned it. And we're gonna do a little thing in a second hour that revolves around one of his answers to a question. I'm excited to watch him do his thing.

I'm excited to see, you know what? No name pops into a general manager role that we get sold that this is the next super genius. Every GM hiring cycle, we have no idea who these people are. No clue. We have no, you rattled off six names. I know Ed, cause he's here in Indianapolis. He's got that bald head or whatever all those other guys never heard of them

But if they could have as a GM, you know what these guys can see it. Yeah That's exactly that's the hope in this entirety We appreciate the hell out of you chef or anything. We should be thinking about that might happen today anything happening today Well, that's the great part about the NFL Pat. It's the greatest reality show going. We never know what's going to happen in a given day and hopefully there's enough excitement from yesterday that carries into today and tomorrow and for a few days here before we get ready for these divisional playoff matchups. What do you throw like the pigeons whenever you're walking through? Breadcrumbs. That's basically what you do

whenever you give us answers. I gave you enough hair, didn't I? Go have a comment about it. Go have a comment. We appreciate your breadcrumbs. I like to, I try to fatten you up. I try to give you as much breadcrumbs and morsels as I can. I don't need that right now, brother. We're late this season.

You look good, Pat. You look good. You look good. Well, can't be wearing light colors right now. It's been a long season. It's been an awesome season. But the food has been great too. The food has been great this season.

And that's always a problem. I need to get on the Schefter workout plan. This guy's always doing something in the morning, always moving. This guy's how old are you? We just celebrated a birthday. How old? 58 years old. Wow. Oh, 28.

You do. Well, that makes you wonder. Pat will call me. It's like the phone will ring. It's FaceTime. It's you know, nine eight thirty nine a.m I'm getting on my bike to go spin or whatever. What are you doing? I well Pat I'm trying to get some work in here, you know, just didn't Pat likes to visit in on the workouts Yeah, I like to check in you know, just see where everybody's at I like to FaceTime too because I want to see how we're doing, you know I want to see how we're doing just to see if there's a conversation every time you pick up

We appreciate the hell out of you even late last night as I was flying back from Monday Night Raw We're having a full conversation late night about everything that was taking place You're the man ladies and gentlemen senior NFL a center for ESPN Michigan man, Adam Schefter Always answers the phone. Yes, he does literally always always answers phone which I appreciate the hell out of him for legitimately He'll be on here, whatever. Doesn't like to give us too much though. No, no, no, he doesn't. But I think he's scared to death

that he's gonna drop a morsel that's wrong. Yeah. And then all of a sudden it's like, can't trust this guy with anything. As there's been a couple of times where he said some things on our show and maybe he delivered it wrong, like the phrasing was wrong,

and we'll tweet it out or whatever. And it's only, I think'll tweet it out or whatever. And it's only, I think it's happened twice or whatever. He's like, Hey, I didn't mean to say it that way. Is there any way you can help me out here? And it's like, you got it. And I assume that's his source. Being like, Hey, I didn't say this.

Oh my God. I'm so sorry. Let me go back in. His job is a constant. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. You do his podcast with him once a week,

the Adam Schefter show. Yeah, I mean that's a big deal too because in that world, like you do that once, like he burned bridge with a guy forever. Trust. Yes. Need to be able to trust you. And he pulls out his notes. I had this from October 12th, 2023.

Nuts. Somebody said, Coach Primal's gonna be in this. So I started putting photos together, obviously, in my notes. I've been waiting on it. I was ready. I don't know if you guys saw it. I splooged out so many photos of them together.

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It's wonderful. We're incredibly lucky that we get to talk about it all the time, you know, and Football is in its playoff seasons. That means it's the greatest time of the year We hope you had a phenomenal holiday season But right now with the playoffs Especially with what took place last night as a team that nobody could have expected to get hot towards the end of the season Has continued to remain the team that could potentially piece it together and go on a run all the way to the Super Bowl Oh in an NFC that has been dominating by or dominated by the Detroit Lions and the Philadelphia Eagles and the NFC North was the Topic of Convo

Nobody really thought the NFC West which is potentially down this year was gonna have a team that could put it together and maybe go On a run well say hello to the Monday night Modad from the Los Angeles Rams. Matthew Stafford was locked in, Pookin' the Coup was doing his thing, Higbee was going bananas, Kyron Williams was obviously cooking, Cooper Cup is a guy, and Sean McVeigh is a damn good ball coach.

Right now the playoffs are set for the divisional round, not only in the NFL, but also the national championship is set for the College of the World. We're incredibly lucky to do this. I can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. The talk table's here at Bossy Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, seems like you're glowing a little bit

after a piece of information that Adam Scheffer shared with us just last hour. I mean, look, Mike Vrabel runs the Patriots. And to be completely honest, we're the only team that's hired a head coach. We are way above the curve. And by the way, we got the best head coach available. So all these other guys, all these other cool gurus

that everybody likes, they're not proven. Mike Vrabel is, and he's gonna do wonders with Drake May and the entire team. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done! Cowboys AP tone. Pittsburgh Steelers are in an interesting spot. Mike Tomlin had his press conference today.

He is gonna be the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers going forward. I think every Pittsburgh Steelers fan knew that, although there was a little bit of a buzz of, get this guy out of here, just like there is every single year that the Pittsburgh Steelers lose another playoff game. He talked about changes at all levels.

He talked about how, you know, Justin Fields, Russell Wilson are certainly guys that he likes, but he'll be looking at outside available options. Feels like Mike Tomlin said, I'm open to everything attached to nothing. Just like what Aaron Roger said is that How you took the press conference that just happened as you were catching up with it during the break and are you jealous of the New England Patriots who have Mike Vrabel in there as a culture and tone setter a quarterback in Drake May that is very young and

Seemingly promised to be successful and you guys are once again seemingly in a purgatory even though another winning season happened No, I think I'm happy where we're at I mean variable would die to have Mike Tomlin's career Mike Tom was never fired at the Tennessee Titans And had to go back to his organization crawling back begging and pleading to be a coach again. Nope. So no what I don't think so You bet you better hope Mike Vrabel doesn't hear you say that, because he'll beat the piss out of you. Yes he would, but I've never seen it in my life, so why would I?

So we're good there. Been trying to keep you away from Mike Vrabel locations. That's probably a smart move, because his myths are massive. Yeah, he's based on bits. First time I met him in person was out there at the American Century Classic, the golf tournament out at Lake Tahoe.

And I was standing in the K-Horn, and we had just walked seven and a half miles. How many miles is the 18 hole? That's good. Seven and a half miles. At least. Through the mountains. 20,000 steps.

Through the mountains of Lake Tahoe, playing 18 holes of golf. All things that I've never done before. Play 18 holes straight through, never done that before. Walked 18 holes straight through, had never done that before. Walked through the mountains of Lake Tahoe, had never done that before. Walked 18 holes straight through, had never done that before. Walked through the mountains of Lake Tahoe,

had never done that before. I was in a bad spot, golfing really kicked my ass. Brand new J's, brand new J Golf. I mean these shoes. Which isn't great by the way. What's that? Which doesn't help in this situation either. Yeah, well they looked great.

They did. They looked so cool. But obviously because they were brand new, my feet were sliding around in around and so I had bruised toes and blisters on my heels Legs were tired knees were sore. I was out of shape I was winded and in walked this barbarian of a man who just got done walking seven and a half miles Maybe smoking three packs of sakes I think he was actually throwing away a pack while he was hitting a vape with three different things as in and cope in his face and he walks up to me and I see this big mitt literally coming from around town like this and I go oh shit this is a check

I've been in this situation before this is a how do we feel what's this guy made of what's the cut of said dudes jib that he's about to hit and he smacked me on my and he was trying I mean it was uh was a chop, it was a wrestling chop to my arm. I flexed into it, leaned into it, can't get punked around here by Mike Vrabel, he will view me differently forever. This is a once in a lifetime, first impression situation that's taking place, body felt terrible,

mentally I was on probably 120 milligrams, I wasn't there either, I mean it was a whole situation, I've locked it in bang Handprint on arm for next 35 minutes. He is a towering dude when he walks in remember that was a conversation about variable Last coaching cycle after he gets fired from the Titans is he would walk into some of these interviews and people would be intimidated by his presence This time he walked into Kraft's office after Kraft called him. He didn't go begging for the job.

I believe Kraft called him. He walked in and he goes, Elliot Wolf, how you doing? You work for me now. That's sweet. If this is how this is gonna go, I'm bringing my guy in here working together, working for me.

This team, I'll wear a little tie thing and I'll do whatever. Actually, he probably, well, he doesn't. He ain't spit. Yeah, he's swollen cope. Just straight down in there. I don't even know why I did that. I'm so sorry for Aves I disrespect you like that, but he's a guy that whenever they talk MC DC

It's hard not to just be like Vrabes is exactly like that, but he's different. He's this super high football IQ Super geniuses. Well, just like MC DC I don't think that has ever talked about with these meatheads that he said coaching job and this guy I mean you don't I don't think that has ever talked about with these meatheads that these head coaching jobs and this guy I mean you don't Play and involve yourself both ways that he played both ways to both multiple Super Bowl championships You don't do that unless you are a smart play He didn't come into the league with you know, super freak show numbers as an athlete and part What was it? What was he drafted with the Steelers late? I'm so he came in third or fourth round Fourth round it came in so you got to get through to have a successful career

You got to be a heavy player and then obviously he earned his stripes and a coach around and it got back to New England Man, I'm excited. We talked about former players going back to their teams But former players who were there during the height of the success I think is important to to obviously know how things have been done then sure He's gonna do a lot of things his own way. He learned a lot from Bill, but he also been around to block his own coaches. So I'm excited about this new era. I believe there's a chance, you know,

that some of the do your job shit probably goes back up. For sure. They covered that up for a year to kind of say, hey, it's a new era, it's a new chapter. They're doing this at a lot of buildings these days. I guess that is kind of the new thing. Hey, we wanna obviously understand what has happened here, but this is our chapter.

We don't need to be walking around staring at all greats. We don't need to be reminded of what this place used to be while we're trying to forge our own path, forge our own river. Teams do that, okay? I was part of a team that did that. I was mightily confused. I think the Seahawks did that.

The Patriots allegedly did that whenever Coach Mayo got in there. I'd assume that Vraees uses some of Bill's shit in his coaching. Like, hey, do your job. It's actually, yeah, it's actually our mantra to you. We stole that shit. Yeah, that is, if we could actually put that up. Yeah, you can just say,

you can do the Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott, if you wanna do that. But I think it is, for the fans, I guess I would have to ask you, this does feel like you're all the way back, like nostalgia almost, while you're hiring Vrabes and you got your quarterback. This is a massive positive thing That's taking place in New England and his craft back to being on the fan The fans like craft and are the crafts able to go to the grocery store or walk around town in Boston again after this?

Yeah, no doubt about it Like I think craft doing this and obviously people are upset Mayo got hired after one year and that is what it is but I think that was More so the crafts kind of admitting like hey, maybe we got this wrong. We screwed up We need to change it immediately and variable is so much more like a Belichick where maybe towards the end of Belichick even some fans might have been like, okay, you know without Brady Look at what this guy's doing and that is the reality of how some fans felt But I think after one year of mayo a lot of people were like man we had it we really had it pretty damn good with bill and you know the

way mayo did it with the media I think people were sick of the way bill was with the media and then they got one year of mayo and kind of the jovial kind of letting everybody know what's going on and can our cards go back to saying nothing again? And people got really sick of it. Yeah, and I think Vrabel brings that back and then you just think about too like the do your job type thing for sure. But I even go back to like the man in the arena, Tom Brady doc, the 10 episodes where he talks about, you know, the early days with New England and how guys like Vrabel and William McGinnis and Teddy Bruski kind of helped shape the player that he was. Cuz Vrabel came in in 2001 and that was the year Brady took over after Butzel got hurt against the Jets.

And so that was kind of Vrabel's beginning of New England. He was the start of the dynasty. He was there those first few years. And you talk about Mayo, the difference would be when Mayo comes in, they are a very established, already won three Super Bowls. We are kind of the team, the class of the league. Whereas Vrabel, when he got there, they were shite. They hadn't won a damn thing.

So it feels like not completely all the way there. You know, we're not shite. The Patriots brand still is what it is. But these last five years have been shite. So it kind of is kind of like a rebirth. Pretty shitey. Pretty shitey. And it kind of is kind of like a rebirth pretty shitey pretty shitey and it kind of how shitey it gets So we remember that it was telling him like hey Bob you have lived in a fantasy land Yes, they talk about that kid that goes to all the parades the Boston. Yeah, who's 16? What's his name something McGillicuddy? Yeah

Connor lived very similar life. That was my life. He just didn't have the signs at the parades. Connor was actually there ripping dots. Sure, exactly. Probably talking shit to a lot of different towns at said parades. That was your life in every sport. And what we were trying to say is, hey, Bob, water finds its level. At some point it's all going to have to go. And then I remember you talking about, well, at least I got to Remember, you know these entire things

And there was a chatter from the Detroit Lions fan before he could have ever found out what his future was gonna be like He's like, this is the rest of your life now. You're like the rest of us your life sucks You're just hoping to go 10 and 7 and win a playoff game for the rest of your life That's what it's gonna be and it feels like you had to kind of deal with that for a bit Then you had to acknowledge that you guys are gonna be terrible now It feels like you patriot fans are coming back your way so doesn't feel like the Patriots Malksy yeah It's kind of coming back over the last 24 hours of variables feels like the mass holes have starting to get a little bit back

To like you all forgot you all forgot who we were it does feel like that on the internet with you mass holes And I want to let you know I respect the hell out of it I'm so happy you guys are back great fan base to be back into the you know The relevancy world whenever it comes to football and the NFL as a whole and I think frames is ready to bring that type Of mindset back the only difference now as opposed to then is the Josh Allen's in the division and like there is already like an Established, you know kind of big bad wolf in that division not that the Patriots couldn't get there with Drake May and Everything but there was never that there was never that other team ever, you know, it was like those utter

Yeah, no all those other teams, you know The Jets had like a little bit of a run But like they were never worried about the Bills or the Dolphins or the Jets and now it's like oh shit You know Josh Allen and those other guys are pretty good. How do the other guys feel? Let's get a one half of the hammer done? Cowboys Bubba Gumpino dumpy has future of the Dolphins with this variable signing you think I feel like absolute shite about it to be Honest variable owned us when he was with the Titans because he plays tough football That's just something we don't do so yeah, we'll see how next year goes

You know we're probably one year away from complete rebuild I was going on like probably four or five minute rant just about the Patriots getting Vrabel back in like culture setting and everything he's saying and doing is right and Gumpi just looks over dolphins are dead again and I said what do you mean he goes dolphins normally okay against Patriots but dolphins terrible against Vrabel because Vrabel tough guy now he and the bills play tough football We're dead now. We're the worst in division in the Jets are gonna Come just sat back open his phone. Just start scrolling. Mm-hmm. It was like can do it was real moment It's the life of a Dolphins fan man. It has been a tough ride. Well Tyreke is in right? Yeah. Yeah

Yeah, he was Rosenhouse said he was. But then the funny thing about that, when D-Bud's doubled down, he said he didn't talk to him. So I don't know what that was about. Yeah, he did. So it feels like we got no answers there. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, might be a man who has the answers. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl

champion, a Ryder Cup winner, father of 10, ladies and gentlemen, the former president of Ohio, A.J. Hawkins. Yeah, A.J. Hawkins. Great haircut today, A.J. Wow. Wow. You are glowing. You are glowing, A.J. And it's a big day today, A.J.

We're talking a lot about frames. You know a lot about frames, obviously, Ohio State legend that he is. Everything we're saying is accurate. And do you think it's warranted for Patriots fans to be as pumped as they are, especially finding out now that he's basically general manager, as well as that coach. And do you think it's warranted for Patriots fans to be as pumped as they are especially funny on now that he's basically general manager Yeah, as well as a good and you think it's warranted for Dolphins fans to say. Ah, here we go. We're dead again age

So I feel gumpees pain. I can I would imagine having Braves sign They're like I feel like con man's right like you should have your moxie back like that's what a signing like variable does That's like you guys all know you you just talked about how he came and put his Big meat Paul on your shoulder and basically gives you an imprint for the next eight hours Just because he's he's trying to say hello like he has a presence about him and braves is one of those great mixtures of People that I've mentioned before every once a while people come around and they are These weirdly super intelligent meatheads and that's what Braves is like he is Absolute guys guy like tough as nails,

will do anything, can run all day, he'll never quit. But he also is weirdly smart. And usually you don't get that combination together and Braves is that guy. Yeah, and we talked about MC DC being a very similar man. I think they have different energies about them. I think they have a different meathead vibe about them, but you can't just be a meathead, dumbass, okay?

No. You have to be able to relate to players. You have to be able to get your message across. You have to be able to have strategy that has success to get people to continue to buy in. It's like, I got faith in Vraims up there. I actually hate how much I have. My wife too.

Sam grew up Indianapolis Colts fan, obviously during the entire Peyton Manning, Brady era everything like that she's just like of course the Patriots get it right they just had a coach a year ago just had a coach a year ago we're supposed to go through a three four year period of do we got it do we knock on it you know supposed to be one of those things yeah and instead they just go nope not doing this we're gonna get a guy in there and because Colts had to play the Titans so much and how old Braves led that team,

they had like 100 injuries. I forget what the number was. It was like 100 injuries or something like that. Still the number one team in the AFC, hosted a playoff game, won the AFC. So it was the home team for the playoffs. Now granted, they would go into lose even after they sacked Joe Burrow 11 times, 10 times.

Yeah, they also had nine. That was the record they tied last night. Okay so nine sacks or whatever it was so it's like what he was able to do at Tennessee with seemingly limited roster every single year it's like this guy wins games. Overachieve. That's literally what he does. Braves wins games. They steal those games that like kind of you shouldn't win all of a sudden Braves finds a way to steal a couple games a year and that's that's gigantic in the NFL and that's what they said or in Taylor LeWan's kind of little video that he put out about variable Okay, you're gonna win those close games and last year with this past year with Mayo We lost six one score games the year before with Belichick still, but we lost nine one score games

It's like those close games maybe we'll go our way and then you think about the players that he had in Tennessee like It's like those close games maybe will go our way and then you think about the players that he had in Tennessee like personally and they made this because I'm a Patriots fan like what Drake may can be is Exponentially higher than what Marriott and Tannehill were so it's like the the future and the potential of what they could Massive they're gonna do it again. You're gonna do it Josh Allen still there He is a massive ordeal for the rest of the AFC Colts fans are like yeah they still they still got a deal with that over there so let's not start getting our Patriots nightmares back just yet now let's talk about those quote you talk about those close games there's only one of them during Super

Wild Card weekend last night continued basically what the first round of playoffs have been for football this year 27-9 dub for the Los Angeles Rams over the Minnesota Vikings. Obviously there's question marks all over Minnesota right now about what that future looks like with unsettled questions at the quarterback position. But in LA, how about it, age? I talked about it with Schefter, I talked about it with the boys. I'm so incredibly impressed by this squad because there's no way, this is just like the Texans, the Texans, there's no way you're supposed to win these playoff games but they do they

have something about him Sean McVeigh has something about him where he has his teams ready to play in the biggest moments and this team has gotten hot late this is the best time to figure out how to play football then Schefter said last week was their best week of practice all year buy-ins at an all-time high health is at an all-time high and her play is at an all-time high The Rams are dangerous and none of us could have ever expected this but I guess we shouldn't count out Matt Stafford ever Well, we think about that we don't even have to count on Matt Stafford have a gigantic day I know he did have a great day, but their defense so they win the turnover margin and they score on defense in a playoff game

What are the odds that you lose that game? I would imagine if you take care of those things, you're probably going to win the game. But I mean, nine sacks. Are you kidding me? Like I know less need has been getting the pub that he deserves. But man, like when you look at what they have done and what they have drafted and the big hole that they were in and everything, it's pretty impressive. They're actually fun to watch. Like I love when they show Shula on the sideline, he gets all jacked up. He's got a sweet haircut. He's over there. He's juiced. He's pumping the dudes up like they're a fun team to watch and you're right

Like they are kind of a scary team to think about running into here in the playoffs and a lot of the players on their team Don't know what they don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have no idea. That's a great thing Yes, it is sometimes cuz you can just have blind optimism. Yeah, we're supposed to be here Yeah, this is how this is supposed to go And obviously they all had success in college and in football life before but like in the NFL playoffs Sometimes that can loom over people, you know, like I can't win the big one can't win the big one It's like this entire defense that was young and came together late sir play. They've already won one You've already won a playoff game against one of the best offenses in the history of the league

With one of the best wide receivers of all time. It's like what a performance kind of, I don't wanna say boost confidence, but almost prove to yourself like, yeah, we are supposed to be in this dance, and we're lucky for it as fans. As being young and naive, does that help? Because I know they have to,

they gave up 255 on the ground to Saquon this year. They're going to play Saquon again. As being young and naive, does that help in the second match? Be like, oh, we just didn't do the right things in that one. You remember that performances like that. They're definitely going to have to bring something else to the table game plan wise. You know, Saquon at any given point, you know, it'll be hammer home. Maybe you gotta get 11 hats to the ball. We gotta be gap discipline

because you miss a tackle in that second and third level with Saquon is going 50, 60, 70 for a home run It's not just a 20 yard game So they'll definitely remember that but they are they can definitely flip the page and after a big win like this It depth you definitely have that big big confidence is more year And we were one seed in New England 14 and 2 I think during the season beat the dog shit out of the jet So Monday night football late in the season and then fast forward to the divisional round, they beat us. That was the Bart Scott, you know, can't wait. Couldn't stop a nosebleed.

So you can definitely, it's hard to beat the same team twice the same way. Yeah, and then, you know, there is a chance you can just beat the hell out of people again and just have their number. Absolutely. That's why football is absolutely magical. The Vikings now join the latest cast of teams that are Heading the goal for fish Steelers Packers Chargers Bucks Broncos Vikings Obviously all in the middle of their off seasons What does that mean think about the run that all these teams have had this year think about the Vikings run Just two weeks ago. They were up for the number one seed in the NFC 14 wins. Holy hell

We're the Minnesota Vikings. They had that moment where Sam Darnow was getting carried in the locker room Kevin O'Connell was watching the side. This is why you coach this is what we're trying to build to this is everything We're looking for and then boom in an instant. It's over now what all these teams have to do Well, I tried to put a list together of basically all the things that have to happen Here's the Lombardi at the top of the mountain Okay It is being scaled by 32 teams at the beginning of the season. Then we get the super wild card weekend. There's only 14 left.

Then each week they fall off, fall off, fall off. And only one gets to the top. And that place has seemingly been locked down by the Chiefs' flag for a long time. But all these guys down at the bottom that just lost, join a litany of other coaches trying to figure it out. And for all the success that you had, you got a playoff winning team. You got to rebuild again. You got to rebuild this whole thing again you got to renegotiate with all your top players and coaches because they're going to want more

money especially if you're on a successful team if you're a defense coordinator and defense has won you some games got you the point that you're at you're getting paid crap shite maybe some other teams are looking interest well you got to go renegotiate for a bigger deal so you got to figure that whole thing out. They can reevaluate if what they're doing is working, right? Especially this guy right here, Mike Tomlin, legend, one of the greats of all time, has never coached a losing season in the NFL, has not been able to get past the first round in eight

years, almost a decade since anything good has happened. You have to reevaluate how you're doing things he says Changes are coming at all levels you have to recommit to them to the climb This is a lot you see these things here this shit gets heavy Steve shit gets up gets monotonous Every day is the same day training camp every day is the same day season every day same day God do the right things every single time cuz if not by they're holding the team back You're an anchor you're a big you're a big pile of dump. That's kind of weighing everybody down. That's pulling the whole group back You got to recommit to the entire process which sucks then you got to reinvigorate everybody because when you lose it's disappointing

We're so close climax right there Blue balls we were nothing Got to reinvigorate the whole building You got to reimagine what you are and then you've got to restart from the beginning. That is what now has to happen for the Minnesota Vikings in an instant. In an absolute instant it's all over. Great year, historic year, dream year, Kevin O'Connell, super genius year, B-Flo with the

defense, holy hell. We got everything coming together at the right time. And then you lose on a Monday night to the Rams and all the reese that you have to do to get back anywhere near that position sucks that's why you have to pay respect to what the Patriots were able to do for 20 plus year period yeah that's why you got to pay respect to what the Chiefs are doing right now as we watch it is so hard to win it is so hard to continue to win it is so hard to get through all the bullshit. Like think about Cincinnati Bengals. We were talking about them on a plane last night,

Gumpi and I as we were flying. It's like we assume that they're gonna be better next year, but they still got Chase and Higgins to deal with. That's just on your team. Those are two guys that they can keep on their team already, let alone everybody else on the outside, let alone a new defense coordinator, let alone Zach Taylor and how's it all gonna work out.

There's just so much shit that you have to deal with all the time So whenever you lose and you're out of it in the building, obviously, it's devastating But it's also what Tomlin said, you know, like he's ready for the process to get back It's a lot to get back even into the conversation of potentially getting to the top of the NFL AJ. That's no fun That's a nightmare as I was typing these out, I was like, golly, golly, golly. Just think about the massive amount of effort and amount of task that is in all of those things. That as soon as you lose your last game, bang, you got to start now to get back to the top. It's crazy, H. It's a wild business, this NFL. Yeah. You going through that, honestly, it's scary. Like it gives you like it gives me goosebumps

thinking about how terrible it is when you do have this great season. You never even think of it ending. You're like, okay, yeah, let's do this. We're gonna go make a run in the playoffs. If you're the Minnesota Vikings, how great the year was, how fun it was. And then as the clocks getting close to zero and you realize you're not winning this game, all that runs through your head. Like, man, I gotta go clean out my locker like this see like it's so weird at the season ends that quickly and you're like talking about the coaches mentioned like on the plane about exit meetings when you're gonna have them the next day or over the following you're like are you serious like this is all

over it's just even to get back to training camp is so long so you're thinking like all right we got a next year we're gonna do it you're always ready to roll already I feel like but you don't you realize me I got a couple months until our offseason program even starts I don't know if I'm gonna be on this team anymore. Who knows if they even want me here So there's just so much that ends in an instant. That's what does make football the best. That's why we watch It makes it the best and if you're on the team it makes it the worst cuz all Sam Donald's gonna think about all offseason That's all he's gonna to think about those last two. Had greatest season he could have ever had.

The season he needed to have on a proof it year. He had it last two games, terrible. Always going to think about off season. From a player's perspective, it's like how do you get better? How do I recover? How do I get healthy in time? What surgeries am I going to have? What surgeries am I not going to have?

It came out, Bo Nicks had what? Three fractured. Yeah, transverse fractures in his back it happened against the Raiders there was a shot that he took to his side he played the next week against Cleveland and then there was a bye week and then he beat the hell out of the Indianapolis Colts after the bye week and he plays all the way through the wild card with three cracked vertebrates or whatever it is and this guy's back playing like this. It's like, what?

Like this is, this is awesome that this younger generation still has guys like this. Now I know Bo's older. It's Bo playing. Bo playing a lot of football, but it is nice to know that there's another generation of football players that are willing to play through a broken fricking back.

I think he actually said in D, but correct me if I'm wrong, that next game against Cleveland was like Monday night football or something like that. And he had a couple of fractures in his back and he was like, I'm wrong that next game against Cleveland was like Monday Night Football or something like that Yeah, and he had a couple fractures in his back and he was like, I'm not missing my Monday night football No way, like I've dreamt my whole life to play him. That's love of game That's love of sport and I'm happy to hear that from Bo Nix because I don't know if you've been seeing a lot of these Quotes from a lot of these teams that have exited AJ. I don't love it Seems like we're hearing a very similar message from a lot of these places.

And I'm not used to us hearing this immediately upon teams ending their season. Feels like it's a lot of accountability issues. Got to check the ego at the door. Tucker Kraft came out and said, it's been brewing for us. We could kind of feel that this was going to happen. Say plans to step up as a leader. Wouldn't call the season a complete failure, but definitely disappointing. And then said the Packers need to wake up.

I think that's like an urgency thing. That is like an accountability thing. Mike McDaniel said, you know, you gotta let guys know that they can't do it, but I can't just find them and they don't care. What else am I supposed to do? And then George Pickens in the Pittsburgh Steelers situation is continuing to be a big one because the Steelers once again

Don't win a playoff game. It's like this guy was late to the game on Christmas So I mean that's just one particular thing that was being reported It feels like accountability is starting to become something that is lacking and we wondered what the ripple effects were gonna be of the NIL Transfer portal era we did wonder what that was going to be. And I'm not saying that it is a clean sweep. I don't ever want to brush something with a broad brush. You know, that'd be rude to do an entire generation like that. Cause clearly there are still a lot of dogs that are playing the sport. But I think there's a lot of guys that since like high school have kind of been like the, the breadwinners almost for the family.

They've been the dude, right? They've been the dude. So they don't, no one's been able to really tell them anything. That's the problem. Because they're making more money than everybody. And it's like, hey, what are you talking about? Who you- And coaches, a lot of times though, coaches at a young age will tend to put up with that

because the dude's a superstar. He's going to help, you're going to keep your job because the dude catches four touchdowns a game. Be who you can afford to be has always been a thing. Well, these kids at a younger age are able to be something that only professionals have been able to be because they are becoming professionals younger, but I don't think they're becoming pros.

You know, like that's the issue. I think in the NFL, it's like be a pro, be a pro, be a pro is how people describe like accountability, being on time, making sure you're taking care of your shit. It takes time for people to become a pro, but it feels like there's far less pros than there was back in the day. And it feels like there's a lot more professionals

that have kind of been treated in an entitled fashion, you know, kind of have been enabled their entire lives. And now college, if they run into any adversity, it's like, yeah, you can get out of here and you'll get paid more. You'll actually get rewarded more for running away from any trouble or potentially meanies that are not accepting of how you're playing now and want to make you even better.

And here's once again, Coach Vrabel talking about that exact point with- Patriots unfiltered? Up in New England. The accountability, maybe they were enabled at college. Don't wanna tell them things that may disappoint them or upset them for fear for them to go and look for another offer. So sometimes that leads to a player

that's not as accountable to the team as he needs to be. And that's okay, You know what I mean? We can change, we can do our part to help change some of those behaviors. We can fix that. That's okay. Yeah, that's okay. These guys suck. But you know.

What a nice way to say like these guys are, some of these guys are turds and they're not going to be here. Like, not saying his current, he didn't know his current roster, but there are guys, yeah, what a nice way to hit for him to describe that whole, that process that's gonna play out. Yeah, and we can help try to change that too. You know, some of these guys are turds and they suck. D-Butt, how do you think you go about finding guys, I think a big part of this next era right now of having a successful NFL team and even college team, is you can't pick the

turds. You just gotta, how do you figure out who they are? Because if you get a turd, you're in trouble. You're already set back money-wise, the rest of the locker room sees it, the building sees everything like that. But if you get the right guys, you got guys playing through broken backs. You know, there is, there's different levels of this thing.

There's different messages. There's different cultures, basically, being decided by these decisions. How do they know who's the right guy? How do you know legitimately? You try to do your research as much as possible and we hear it when you're getting recruited for college or you're getting recruited for the draft, you know the coaches or whoever they call your your high school janitor, your high school coach, your teacher, obviously your parents, all these different people who

try to get as much background as possible and sometimes there are turfs, sometimes they're just immature and you can put them in the right environment. You put them in the right meeting room, you put them in the right building, and they can definitely, I've seen it, I know I've seen it before where a lot of guys come in a certain way and they're just around certain people

and held to a different standard, and they definitely change and mature and become pros. And I think all of us had to learn how to become pros, what that actually means, regardless of how good your intentions are. You got to learn how to watch film. You got to learn how to take care of your body. You got to learn what to do in the off season. So I think a part of it is so much movement, so much turnover, not only with coaches, but players, you know, players. So now these young guys come in, maybe have a good attitude,

and maybe on that line, on that fringe, they're in a good room around good vets. Because I think vets, I think vets I think coaches are important for sure the front office resource all that stuff is important but I think most importantly is the vets and how they police their own locker room then once they leave and go on it's the next group that's what you saw at the Patriots like the Patriots it was one there's the tie law the variables the bruskies and then that kind of the next iteration of that was McCordy and Chung and Edelman and Gronk and Brady and all those certain guys who are kind of the pillars in those programs and they Hey, this is how we do things around here

So I don't think we have as much as that of that So it's not so much the the players changing but it's the environments that I think are changing, you know Too much or too fast I agree completely as somebody that got in trouble early and then learning and watching and yeah observing and listening, you know and it was it was I was very lucky that I got to watch Adam Vinatieri work and be in that locker room and kind of Watch how they do it and I think that's why I was so open to like Zaire about like hey

Is your locker room it like I think? Accountability and being on time and work ethic and everything and now granted I'm not in this era. So I do not know this era at this time in the locker room. But I think that's a big locker room thing as opposed to anybody. Coaches can say whatever they want. You know, they could find McDaniels.

I could find, I could find whatever. I'm finding these dudes hundreds of thousands of dollars and they just don't care. They're literally just laughing at my face. They said they sold a t-shirt yesterday and made 200,000 bucks So I don't I don't know what you want from me That's basically what McDaniel said but like the locker room kind of has to be the ones that say like that's not how we go About doing this in our eyes. I think we're all seeing it the same way right the locker room for sure

But build like I know in New England like we had like a flash blizzard out of nowhere and like guys showed up I was one of guys probably five five six of us we showed up maybe I showed up like probably four or five minutes late and You don't you know only get fine you get fine for missing a whole day You got sand at point you get sent home with your film and you're gone for the day So you just you show up at 8 or 5 or whatever it is you either you sit home What just me I was I think a rookie at that point maybe a second year player But it was you know 10 year vets superstars a couple guys you, you're out of your seat at home. What just me, I was, I think a rookie at that point, maybe a second year player, but it was, you know,

10 year events, superstars, a couple guys you missed, you're gone, so everybody's kind of held to that same standard. And his point was like, hey, we're in New England in the middle of the winter. Like, yeah, like, you know, be a pro. Everybody else was able to play. So that was kind of the standard,

and it's definitely, and you just understood it. You took it, and like, these things that happen, people being laid or missing treatment, that may, it may be a one-off or two off here With a team for the year, but that's not like oh, I can't keep finding He's got like what do you want like that that you like you that I can said that's terrible Yeah, guys are gonna be late guys aren't gonna show up on time every time It's like that was enough. I heard everything I needed to hear it. Yeah, I heard that

like I heard everything right there and it's it's You know, and I'm not just pointing out. It's not heard that. Like I heard everything right there and it's, it's, you know, and I'm not just pointing out, it's not just the quotes I'm learning. I think I'm just so close to the situation here with the quotes that I think it's like, oh, this team is like this. I think there's a chance that this is, this is how we're going to figure out who wins and who doesn't. Yeah. The team that is able to deal with the, I don't want to say lack of attention on accountability, but seemingly the lack of care or value for accountability from the team as a whole,

that team's gonna stink forever. Okay, it doesn't matter who they have owning it. Doesn't matter who they have coaching it. GM, if the, I guess his coach probably sets the standard, but doesn't matter if the locker room does not care about anything. If you're never gonna win. Like you're never.

No matter how talented they are, eventually, they may get in the playoffs or something, but eventually they're gonna quit when it really matters and they're gonna turn on each other. It shows up when it shows up. That's kind of the, that's the whole thing. Take care of all that shit. That just, and coaches always say, that just gives you a chance. You know what I mean? That just, being in your playbook, take care of your body, being on time, like that just gives you a chance to compete. That doesn't guarantee you're gonna go out here and win, But that gives you the best chance and the McDaniel thing

I mean the coach they all of his bad But the McDaniel thing was worse because when you see that you know, that's not like the 40th guy on the roster You know, that's not the fit That's that's got to be like a star player or star players who are just repeatedly show We're sure you always say act how you can afford to act So if you're getting paid 20, 25, $30 million a year, you can continue to do that because they're not gonna get rid of you.

You're making two, three times what the head coaches make, what the GM is making. So they're not probably not gonna get rid of you. You know you're safe to a certain point. If you're a backup or you're a French starter, you're not gonna be doing that. So those are the guys who tend to set the cultures in a locker room.

So the teams that are still in it, you don't hear pretty much any of that shit. It's been fascinating to hear all of this this year though. Because I think there is a nice mix of people that like want to be pro. Like I don't want to say people that want to be pros, but there's people that are like, this is not how this is supposed to be.

Majority, I would assume. Yeah, majority, we would assume. We would hope at least. You know, like the Forrest Buckner coming out and being like, yeah, I mean, there's just a lot that everyone's gonna have to check. Tucker Crappie, like, we gotta wake up. Like, we gotta do this.

He's young player. That's what I was gonna say with like us talking about the Packers being one to two years away. And I think if you're a Packers fan, maybe kind of worries you a little bit is, yeah, he's in his second year. So it's like, if he's, and I think their offense, I think Josh Jacobs is the oldest guy on the offense and he's like 27. Like they're in they're the youngest

team in the NFL. They don't really have those vets on either side of the ball. So you could see why when things start going bad, it's like, should a second year tight end who's kind of starting to ascend as like a big time dog, like, I don't know if it's fair that he's the guy who needs to kind of bring the locker room together and be like the leader to kind of get him back on the right path. There's some young guys, I think Ray, right? Like there's some leaders that are leaders like Oh, DeGate.

Immediately, you know? And then there's some guys that evolve into their leadership roles. I think as the team continues to evolve and you're still on the team photo that's on the wall in the hallway longer and more photos than everybody else it's like you've been here you kind of understand how this is supposed to go it's a tough thing whenever there's adults and a lot of money at line and how you think

something's supposed to go and how it's actually going I couldn't even like I'm so happy I played the position I played it's like there is not even a question of me to talk you know so I don't even have to not that I saw anything in the first But you but by you can everyone can be their own like there's all different kinds of leaders though But you doing your job and them seeing you take it serious like that's being a leader. That's part of the work Hey, it's not cool It's not cool to mess around and think it's funny if you mess up or something goes wrong Like that's when culture gets really bad

If see you see guys like joking about getting beat deep or something like, Hey man, like I, this never, this is never funny. We saw a guy come onto a plane after we got our ass beat worried about a card debt. And that was one of the worst things I've ever seen him. That's what I knew. That's why I know I'm about done with all this. What am I wasting my time for doing this? In a motion.

Yeah. Why do I care? Why do I that that is that was somebody else getting the ball? Yeah, somebody else getting the ball that I mean we just got smoked Hey, you did bingo loud laughing coming on the plane What are we talking about man? Well, you could have been a jack on Monday Maybe like you could have been a jag off to after you got arrested and just been like, fuck it, whatever. I couldn't have been there. But you know what I mean.

I was nowhere near good enough to be that big of a distraction on my week and that was the conversation I was having with myself in my cell that particular morning. I can't wait to get out of here. I felt like I was in Aaron Rodgers darkness, but instead it was a glass cage in the holding cell because I was a special inmate. While all these others were just staring at me while we were going in for booking I was just in the middle of my thoughts and there was a large dump in the toilet because I don't know who the previous Special inmate was but they certainly were very comfortable dumping in a glass box because it smelled like absolute crop The sandwich gets tossed into me. I'm obviously not hungry. What is this supposed to be baloney supposed to be a fake meat

What does that even mean? What do you mean? It's supposed to be a fake meat? What does that even mean? What do you mean? It's supposed to be a fake me. All right, I'll try it It wasn't bad a little cracker they gave it not terrible That was a nice little distraction for like three to four minutes and then all of a sudden back to I have no job I've no degree. I just embarrassed my family embarrassed my whole team. It's all over I don't know if there is a lot of those fears anymore from anybody, you know I feel like there isn't a lot of fear. I talked to I had a chance to talk to Paul Heyman who I'm incredibly lucky to get a chance to chat with and I'm a massive fan of

He's been in a wrestling business. I think 30 some years since he's like a teenager actually And I asked literally. Yeah, he's been around it forever. He's one of the pioneers of professional wrestling without him I have no idea where wrestling would be. Obviously, it would not be where it is right now. But I talked to him, I said, like, man, I'm very worried that I'm gonna get exhausted. Like, I am not. I'm tired maybe some days,

because I haven't slept enough, but every day I wake up like I'm enjoying what the hell I'm doing. Like, I am very happy to wake up every single morning and do what we do for a living, you know? Because we're in the middle of a lot, right? Like, I've made cross-country flights a lot over the last 10 days and I'm worried that I'm gonna get exhausted

because I've seen a lot of other people kind of go through it, especially in the wrestling business that happens because of how much to travel or whatever. So I asked Paul, I was like, Paul, I'm worried that in the future I'm gonna get exhausted and it's gonna, you know, become a thing for me. I was like, how have you ever combated that or whatever? He gave me this speech about every day. I'm auditioning hoping that they'll invite me back the next day So there's no chance to be exhausted. There's just a chance you get your ass fired every single day So I try to bring it every single moment. I have an opportunity It isn't like there is oh, I'm gonna get tired and what if there is what you have no idea

I'm just hoping to get invited back. He said and I'm like, holy fuck. I needed to hear that I need to be reminded that everything can disappear tomorrow and it's like Adam Vinatieri had that feeling Adam Vinatieri thought he was gonna get fired every single day if he missed the kick or didn't show up It's like that fear of being replaced that fear of losing your thing I don't think there's a lot of that anymore because these dudes are getting money whenever they're like 17 years old. So it hasn't been like the moment of like chaos, oh shit. And I think we're creating a little bit

of a different lifestyle for people. How do we kind of ride the wave of what we're going through will inevitably determine which teams are gonna be great and which teams are not though AJ. Well, I mean, it all comes down to like, when you talk to any guy evaluating people in the like they want to know if you love football like that's that is gigantic for them because like even if things don't turn out like whatever like they know they can still trust you and you can be a good teammate you're gonna be accountable and you'll

fight through injuries and all and things like that but like I don't know how it works with if people like you need team guys you need guys that are worried, hey, I wanna be accountable to these 10 other dudes. I don't wanna leave my corner out to drive. I'm supposed to buzz the curl flat and I told him, hey, I'm gonna be under that 10 yard out, I'm gonna be there. I'm not gonna hang my corner out to drive.

Like you just always have to have that paranoia, like I'm gonna ruin it for these guys. And I think that's, I don't know. I think a lot of guys do have it, but unfortunately, when you have a couple guys that don't it can ruin a Whole team. Hey that can infiltrate too. Yeah crop can infiltrate quick create the little little different silos within a locker room We guys start fighting you know, then you start fighting each other. I want you to do your job Okay, here we go

And if you don't figure that out just lingers which goes to the importance of having like glue guys in the locker room It's so hard to build a locker room. You need vets that are good leadership, have good leadership, good work ethic. You need people in a locker room that are glue. Like- They're productive too. They still, you know, they still- Yeah.

You gotta- Not just the wise old man giving you advice. You gotta make plays too. Yeah, cause nobody's listening to shit if you're not making any plays. Yeah, you can't just be the rah rah guy. Let's, you know, cameras are here. Let's give a good victory speech.

Let's get a game ball for getting two tackles. Like, nah, you gotta be busting your ass throughout the week, being productive. Obviously, take care of your body, you know, because you talked about it. It's not like college or high, like these are grown ass men with families. And like even with the coaches,

like these are your coaches, yeah. But these are like your coworkers and the good coaches to say like, hey, if you guys it has a pro, you shouldn't be just be showing up to the meeting, like trying to get through, like you should probably have some input. Like if you're out there playing, you're out there playing this role. Hey, I've been seeing this on film. What you think about this coach? I think those are the best teams, especially when we get to this point in a year.

And you talked about that all that that whole list you got to do year in and year out. That's much easier to do when you come back to the tip because we know every year It's a new group regardless of how many changes You know you change 40 different guys or four different guys a different group But the more of those things you can come back to the plate in April and you've have kind of set like the standard of Foundation now you can build on top of that and that's how you can compete year in a year out congrats The Rams, you know just fresh off of last night. Everything we've talked about, everything we're talking about right now.

Yeah, they've had, they've, they've had to go through it and they've come out the other side with their culture set with a young group that's ready to carry out, you know, how long can Stafford play for? He's awesome, man. He's so good. He's so fun to watch. So many classic vintage Stafford, like loose elbow. Yeah's so good. He's so fun to watch so many classic vintage Stafford like Loose elbow. Yeah, great teeth great beard got a little song. Come on. You knew right here to get puka involved right away

I was like, oh this might be tough. He's 36 years old. He was drafted in the same class as I was 221 picks earlier Dard, you know, you got like 40 million or something like that was also on the first drive Connor said that whenever they showed him pregame walking in I did not see the clip but it appeared as if he was he was Staff was ready felt like staff was locked in his well con man is scrapped Yeah Lazer did and he was you know flanked by his offensive line and something that we haven't really talked about with the Rams so far Is there's been a lot of you know running back chatter, especially with these playoff teams I Karen Williams is unbelievable

He is so good in the passing game and in the running game and you know when it came to the Rams in particular I think it was last year where their O line just stunk and then they went out they got a couple free agents I believe one of the guys actually from the Lions Jonah Jackson is there now too, but they they really did like replace the most key Positions in free agency and then drafted so perfectly like they put together that whole list that you said And within those months of you know march when free agency starts till the season like it was perfect what they did I think probably teams are looking at this. I know the new england patriots are probably one of them like hey How do we just replicate exactly what the Rams did because it was unbelievable.

They've had to do both now. Les Newt has had to showcase both styles of winning in the NFL. Spending and giving up all your picks to go in right now and then on the other side of that having to deal with it, cap restrictions, pick restrictions. Are you able to build a team now, even with a big quarterback contract? Even with, most people on that other side have had to do with a rookie quarterback so they can build up around it. Instead this is 36 year old Matthew Stafford still getting paid and building up around it. Bravo to the Rams, Bravo to the Rams. Jerry Jones is going to be looking for his next Sean McVay.

Troy Aikman did a little punditry last night. Did you hear that? I did hear that. This was very interesting from Troy. It certainly was. Troy Aikman was asked a question by Scott van Pelt about the coaching vacancy there in Dallas. And Troy took it as a time to kind of say his entire thoughts

on the entire situation in Dallas. And we'd like to tell that Hall of Famer Troy, we appreciate the hell out of you, pal. Well, I thought Mike McCarthy would be the head coach. So this is a bit of a surprise for me today that he's not going to be. And what went into those conversations that Schefter talked about, I'm not exactly sure, but it suggests that there's not a real plan. I mean, in the fact that they haven't had the opportunity to maybe interview a Ben Johnson, and some of these others, Aaron Glenn, I think that what Schefter said as far as Kellen Moore being a candidate, that seems

logical to me. A guy who has familiarity with the building, he's worked obviously with the Cowboys and with Jerry Jones and they know each other very well. In fact, when Mike McCarthy got the job, it was told to Mike that Kellen Moore would be the offensive coordinator. So that's how much the Jones family thinks of him. Beyond that, it's hard to imagine. As far as a coveted job, I don't know that that's accurate. I mean, I do think that the Cowboys are obviously a high-profile team. Whoever is head coach of that

team is certainly going to draw a lot of attention but I think most football people that take over as a head coach they want to do it on their terms and that's hard to do and it's you know if you take a Dan Campbell for instance is Dan Campbell Dan Campbell if he's with the Dallas Cowboys that's how it's hard to imagine that he is it's hard to imagine that a lot of these coaches might be. So I you know I love the Dallas Cowboys. I played there for 12 years. I wish them well but to say that it's a coveted job I'm not sure I would necessarily agree with it. Troy I assume a lot of Cowboys fans are gonna be heartbroken at Troy Aikman saying that because it's probably too damn true in their ears and their

eyes from what they've seen. D-Butts your first takeaway from Troy Aikman. First takeaway I love how just open and honest he came off. Very, very transparent. Obviously, he's a cowboy, great Hall of Famer. Played a lot of downs there, won a ton of Super Bowls there. Once again, he knows what it's like at the height. And he was a player that we've known from all the things we've seen from NFL films, he didn't keep his mouth shut.

He always spoke his mind, whether it was talking about the coaches or teammates. And so what he said about the coach coming in wanting to do it their own way. That's, I think, would be the biggest thing. You spoke about Jimmy Johnson earlier and his exit from Dallas, and that was probably the last time that they were great. So it'd be interesting who Jerry actually brings in there and then how Jerry continues to go about his business. AJ, how about him saying that Kellen Moore was kind of thrust upon Big Mike McCarthy. So the family obviously loves Kellen. Kellen's having success right now with Philadelphia.

What's your takeaway from Troy Ickman's diatribe there about the state of the Dallas Cowboys? Well, when Troy said he's not so sure it's a coveted job, like that's a bit of a jarring statement because it's Dallas Cowboys. We understand the brand that Jerry has built over the years, but it's a coveted job. Like that's a bit of a jarring statement because Dallas Cowboys, we understand the brand that Jerry has built over the years, but it's true. Like, what was the term we tried to remember the other day? Organizational alignment. You have to have that with Jerry

if you want to be in Dallas and Jerry and the rest of his family. And actually we saw Steven, we were walking to the stadium, Pat, you were doing game day. We saw Steven on a golf cart and Jerry coming in the car right behind him. Not national championship, but down at the Cottonball. The Ohio State game.

Yeah, the Cottonball, the Ohio State game that they ended up winning. They showed Jerry on the Jumbo Trun at one point. I did not see it. Foxy did. It was some of the loudest boos I've heard in quite some time. And every single other celebrity that they showed in stadium, all claps, all cheers, Jerry Jones,

instant boos. That's probably Ohio State fans booing, right? That's probably the Ohio State fans. I, right? That's probably a high state fan's boo. I doubt it. Half that stadium was Texas fans, which you would think would potentially be loving them cowboys. It wasn't the Texas fans that were booing Jerry. I'm pretty sure it was all the Texas fans. Whoa!

They're about done with it. They said, hey listen, bub, we saw you in Lamb Man. Go ahead and take your old ass over to the acting world. They need you in Hollywood, and you would do great over there you've been a billionaire in multiple things that you've tried oil and gas obviously one all in there fucking hit Dallas Cowboys one all in there fucking hit Dallas Cowboys fans are why don't you go all into being an actor sure come a billionaire over there you and the rock making movies read to he was phenomenal in land man he was if he was reading a script okay what you guys are saying he was absolutely

was I think oh yeah I think that's 95% ad lib if that is not ad lib he was crying almost you know what do you guys think this guy's Daniel Day Lewis? No, you're saying he is if he's reading the script and he's crying. Somebody else's words, he's crying. I don't think so. Is Jerry doing an improv, like a five minute improv monologue? That's what I think.

Yes. With John Hammond and scrubs? It was too good. No, come on now. They said, they said, they said Jerry, you go in there and you talk like you talk I've given the speech many times. That's what I think has happened. He goes why don't I take care of this? They handle him a script and he said come on woman. Let me cry. Okay, I'll cry. I don't even have any tears in here

And they recorded that part and then Taylor shared and the creator said alright now read my fucking words We're not doing that again no way That was the first date First and only send it if he's had no flubs Send it if he was reading that is way more impressed. Yes. That's what I'm saying if he got a script and Memorized it and then call John Memorized it and then call John hammer billy bob a then it might be the greatest actor in history His first scene he's crying. He's telling the stories big pop on the way other natural that that felt like to me They told him hey go do a little Jerry Jones in there explore the space

You know Because if he read a script You don't think that was it? I am certain, because if he read a script and did that, Holy shit. I think that is. It was his life. Now, if that was him being a basketball coach, then he, okay, Taylor shared it.

That's why it was so easy for him to remember it, D-Bud. That's why he could remember it. So remember, he was, yeah, he's 90. He remembered the last 90 years. Well, you guys did say that his last media scrum, he did not we watched it literally four minutes before we watched that clip and he was just blabbing we just didn't say anything in five minutes the part that seed read it

was when he said sit here lay here like whatever he was talking about first regret whenever you're gonna be on your desk I'm not saying he didn't draw from his own personal experiences. You know, they say that that's probably how he got to cry I started thinking of Steven he's another and his other kids but They were probably holding cue cards with size 500 font right in front of it Read it. Read it. Taylor Sheridan is also a family friend of the Jones family for about 20 years That's definitely Jerry's line. So yeah, in that part of the script, though, everybody else has lines. Billy Bob Thornton, John Hamm, they all have lines.

But then it just says Jerry and then it just says Vam. Free ball. Free ball. Jerry doing Jerry. That's what they're saying. And then they told Billy Bob and in the hammaconda, get in where you fit in. Boys, remember, you're on the deathbed. You're close. Let Jerry do Jerry.

Now that's what everybody's saying. Jerry, go act. Go explore the space. Maybe the Cowboys will have a winning opportunity. We will continue on TikTok, YouTube, ESPN+, and Disney+. Be a friend to other friends, something nice might change their life. See you tomorrow. Goodbye. I think we got it in. I think we got it in. Hey, we're gonna get answers from somebody. I mean, we got them! This is from a website that What is this website? We don't know what this website is. Wallace confirms the scene was unscripted and happened because of Sheridan's long-standing Friendship with Jones. Taylor just kind of said we're gonna let Jerry Jones do his thing and tell this incredible story from his own life

of said we're gonna let Jerry Jones do his thing and tell this incredible story from his own life. Wallace says and I think everyone on set that day was floored by how genuine and vulnerable he was when he delivered. Wow. It was a pretty powerful moment. Thornton had a front row seat to Jones. One and done. Just like we fucking said. That's what I thought! Color Me Shocked. What is this? Variety? Oh they're lying? Variety's lying? Wow. I said Color Me Shocked but that also goes to show there is no reason he should sound the way he does in those media scrums.

If he's doing that on one take he should be delivering fucking just bullets. They shoved that COVID in his mouth. I know. They get all those microphones and phones. He doesn't have the answers yet the guy just got done taking a piss he's 90 years old they just lost let him go up to his seat instead he walks outside and they got ping-pong around here he's clearly with it he gets a little bit discombobulated that goes to what Troy is saying like this guy's got no fucking plan this

guy's got no idea what he's doing anymore like if those are his media scrubs and then the whole McCarthy hey you can't interview with the Bears but we're still gonna fire you in a couple days like that he's got no fucking plan he has no idea what he's doing anymore hey just like Taylor said we're gonna let Jerry did Jerry that is wild if that's the case he honestly might be thinking like always think about the gold gloves Thinking about that's what we're saying. Yeah, Jer. They need an old white Yeah in a lot of movies and they can draw from you so you can draw from your own life experiences Go ahead go all in over there Jer. You're a movie star. He has a movie star. Yeah Wow

That's what hey we had faith. I mean record state never record state, never doubt. Jer, we knew that was all Jer. Because if it wasn't, like you want to talk about like acting and talent. Incredible. If that was somebody else's words, and they're like, hey, need you to, need you to cry at this exact point. That's, you're giving him a lot of credit.

Yeah. I think you're giving him a lot of credit. So him telling his own story. Now I love the success we've had with oil and gas. One and done. Send it. No flub. You got enough cameras on this fucking thing?

Yeah, we even got the shutter over the shoulder whenever you're talking to Billy Bob. Sweet. And he walks off with a punch line. Oh my God. People say Jerry don't have fastball anymore. You're fucking out of your mind. Wow.

That guy's throwing. And acting. Yeah, when it comes to acting, he's showing 100 on the black. he's needs to act like an NFL owner exactly yeah reframe it yeah tell him hey your next role is an NFL you own the Cowboys yes you want to win a Super Bowl holy shit all right first things first we need to fire Mike McCormick Coach Prime I mean that's what would happen in the movie. That is what

would happen in the movie. 1000%. Or Witten that'd be a zany off the wall higher. I can't do that. You think Jerry Jones is doing zany movies? I don't think so. Maybe that'd be a good twist. Jason Witten is not getting the respect that he has earned on the football field on the grid. Or the greatest tight ends of all time. Yeah. Of course, why? You're saying he can't be the next Dallas Cowboys coach? I'm not saying that. Toxic table is certainly out on him.

No fucking chance. No chance. I mean, he just said, whoa, to one of the greatest tight ends of all time. Yeah. I mean, how many greatest tight ends of all time are there? Well, it depends on what your number is. Five?

Yeah. No way. Handful? I wouldn't put it on top. He's in the pant. Dallas tight end. Greatest Dallas tight end, for sure. What's your number? Five? Yeah. No way. Handful? I wouldn't put it on top. He's in the Panthers. Dallas, Dallas, tight end. Greatest Dallas tight end.

For sure. Okay. All right. He's in the Pantheon of greatest tight ends of all time. Better than Mike Dicka. I mean, I can name. I hit a long run, man. He hit a long run. Jason Witten was so good.

He was. So good. And he played forever. People forget how good he was at football. Play for the Raiders. People forget how good a football player he was strictly because. Yeah. You know. He actually had to come back and play for the Raiders because he was so bad in the booth. Which wasn't fair. We didn't think it was fair to anybody. Well. Then went and said I'm not doing TV anymore. I'm doing

football. Played football. Did good. Then goes down to a high school in Texas. State champ. played football, did good. Then goes down to a high school in Texas, state champ. It's not easy to do. Not Texas? Maybe Teddy Bridgewater gets an opportunity to run the Dallas Cowboys, too. He won in Florida. Yeah.

We got Texas high school state champs, Florida state champs. I'm in Miami. Teddy. You're getting ready. Crystal Ball speaks Spanish. No, Miami Dolphins. Oh, you're saying the Miami Dolphins. Oh you're saying Miami Dolphins John Gruden's on the radar in Miami Gumbies been pushing this Dallas have Jerry really flipped the script big. Yeah, John grew now getting back John

You got it. You bring in your people you do your thing. I'm gonna step away I will be bummed out if we don't get John Gruden on the internet every single weekend though I would like to let the world know that cool Hey, that has been a great addition great If he's coach of the Cowboys awesome, he will be on the internet every weekend. Yeah, yeah You're right. We got national TV, which would be he loves ball. John Gruden loves ball I'll tell you that he is Every thought is football. Yeah legit. I didn't even know you know, he was in Bloomington Same time we were we weren't able to link up. He went by Kill Royals, I think,

to buy shots for all the students. I believe that's how it was described. Try to catch us. That was the only time we were gonna be able to kind of cross paths with the way the weekend was and I decided not, I can't be going in there. That is game day, who knows, with Gruden, who knows, you know, what that whole thing goes. So I missed him in Bloomington, but that was a reunion, you know, for that holiday bowl. Gruden, who knows, you know what that whole thing goes. So I missed him in Bloomington, but that was a reunion, you know, for that holiday ball. Gruden's dad coached for Lee Corso back in Indiana. So he like grew up kind of in Bloomington, Indiana.

But that like, I guess I didn't know. Of course, Gruden's been around ball as well. Like that's literally his entire being pretty much his football. That's why he started the fired football coaches of of America because even when he wasn't in football is Football and now that's a guy you if you're looking to turn a culture you assume like how do we do? Let's get a guy who was obsessed with ball and has had a track record of winning now granted got to keep him away from The emails sure and speaking of you know, you know, who's coaching tree?

Last night's two head coaches came from who's Jay Gron, but broadcast didn't mention it. What? over there at the oh shite over there at the The Believe so yard is formally known as the Washington Redskins We were sitting on the sidewalk smoking cigarettes. Native American style. Living. I remember that.

Was he shoeless too? That was awesome. I believe so. Slices off. Anytime you end up shoeless out there, you know it's a thing. So Sean McVay versus Kevin O'Connell tonight, huh? I hired them both, but I don't get mentioned once.

LOL. And you didn't, Jay. And you didn't, from my understanding. I was fast forwarding, I had immunity I was fast forwarding, I did not hear it That's who these teams need to call Jay? Yeah, they want to, hey Jay, who the fuck should we hire?

To be our next head coach, our next OC, our next D.C. It should be Jay We might have put the other greatest staff of all time When it's all said and done Alright, let's get to a break On the other side we'll wrap up all the storylines happening around sports There's some big ones Hey, there's some big a break on the other side. We'll wrap up all the storylines happening around sports. There's some big ones And there's some big ones huge huge sports happening right now. Yeah hockey

Seeing oh, yeah. Have you seen Connor Badaar? Just scored his 100th point Already dangling dog 19 years old basketball. You've seen oh, yeah Zion they're saying I'm not gonna lie. I've seen any basketball come across my feet. Yeah, are they still playing? Pacers plus seven and a half what had at home against the Cavs. Let's go Tyrese Halle back the Miz was talking shit about the Cavs yesterday. Oh, yeah There's a little bit of a bicker Pacers just beat the Cavs to my point exactly Yeah, he had Cavaliers thing on I go. Hey, how the Cavs is you're really good He goes personally dot does this whole miss thing. I go, hey, how are the Cavs? Is your really good? He goes, personally, da da da,

does his whole Miz thing. I go, Pacers beat him last night. So? That doesn't mean anything. They have six losses on the whole season. What was one of them? Is it last night? Yeah, so?

Such a yeah, so guy. I walked away from the Miz three different times we were having conversations last night. It just happened. Like there was just things happening. And Miz, first time seeing him in a long time, he gets off the Miz Express, he goes inside, you know, his boss has Miz Express on the side of it,

his face, it's awesome, goes inside. I see him, but I'm heading to somewhere, you know, I gotta do something. So it's quick interaction, Cleveland Cavaliers thing. And then I'm like, yeah, I gotta go, you know? So I just walk away, he goes, you just walk away from me. You just walked away from me. And then he walks away and I'm like, you know, so I just walk away. He goes you just walk away from me You just walked away from me and then he walks away and I'm like, hey summer next time

I'm literally on my way out of building Mistops, though has a sweet tux on always. Oh my god. You look good, brother. What do you got tonight? He starts telling me, you know, I'm like, alright, good luck. He gets you walk away from me again You walk away from me. I'm starting to fucking think you don't like talking to me I'm like, I just got somewhere to go, and they're all so busy. The whole thing. He's electrified. Everything about interacting with the man is awesome.

Every single part of the interaction, the information that's coming out, the greeting, the greeting that is coming out of his mouth is awesome. The contents of the conversation, always awesome. And then how the fuck it's gonna end is gonna be entertaining. Every time. Every single single time even in a bus Yeah, there's no way around him he was holding court on this bus with ten people

Nobody's like now you can't leave We're in the miz experience. They got robbed by Sammy Zany last night. Yeah. Sammy what? I don't think that's his name. Sammy Zany. Sammy Zany is, I guess you could say he's kind of zany. Pretty zany, pretty wacky.

He is kind of zany, isn't he? He had a hell of a kick. Call it the Haluva kick, which I love. And one on the blue thunder bomb, which I could knock it out. Kept calling it the thunder dome. That's tough. This is the thunder dome, of course He's no penta. I'll tell you that much. Oh

He is no pants I was told not a lot of say anything about that, but it was the whole match Fucking weapon dude coming out the way he walked Fucking that's my first time experiencing the Penta in the arena. It was electrifying. Got a promo afterwards, half in Spanish, still no idea what he said. Loved it. Big pop from the Spanish speaking crowd in the audience though.

Wish I could have enjoyed the inside joke. Actually picked up Rosetta Stone just so I can maybe catch the next round of Penta talking. Smart. It was a moment when this dude came in, whole time second-grade is Lugidor of all Time they say Ray Mysterio number one, but right Ray told me a weight DC penta I know gave me a full on race Ray knows But there's a lot of conversation about what I'm allowed and what I'm surf walking love that love the vibes Oh, yeah, sweet fit. Good. Oh, how's your guy? I don't think that's for Ohio State there on the back

I think that's a little bit operation, but OH I'm sure Thank You AJ I like the shin guards Well, those are pads obviously for whenever somebody tries to kick him in the shin He's not gonna be able to utilize the entire ring as a weapon used the bottom rope as a slingshot last night for a leg Drop sick. That was sick hit the Mexican destroyer Obviously the Canadian so as soon as he walks in, he does it. Yeah.

Right away. Let him know. A couple times. It's kind of his thing. Yeah, we're just going to stay away from it. All right. Okay. I bet we are.

He was electrifying. And then Chad Gable, that scumbag. What a perfect guy to let Penta play. He's great. He's great. He is great. He's an Olympian. Have a little respect, please.

Star. A little respect. He's jocked. Absolutely jocked. Perfect matchup. Perfect matchup for Penn. That'd get a big time win. The I'm going to call from Dallas Clark right now. Yeah, he's on the list above Witten. Can we meet at this place? Can we meet at this place? Oh, hey, I'm currently. Sure, it's going well you guys are all muted right come on what are you doing over there Dibba what are you doing over there Hawker Dibba what's happening sign language what's happening digs who you're rooting for a national

championship I see your sweatshirt well cuz what your your wife's family is from there I believe don't let him get away with that Hawker I get your wife's family is from there, I believe. Don't let them get away with that, Hawker. I get it, it's all right. Plenty of Notre Dame fans, I love Marcus. Not this, not this week. Here we go, family. Family. Yeah, shout out to your old coach, Notre Dame.

Brian Kelly. Is he saying Dallas is rambling? Yes, yes he is. He's probably got a plan to fix the Colts. Oh, hire him as a head coach. Tell him he's... yeah. Dallas is awesome. You see what happened was I told him we were live but I didn't tell him it was muted so he gave a showing like a full well thought out answer but by the time I realized he was in the middle of a very well thought out answer it was too late to unmute it because now you're

missing a context of the entire set so that's hundred percent on me That's user air but what Dallas said is I give leniency on the booth thing I would never hold that against anybody because he said he tried it one time. He was terrible. He said it's hard stuff It's not an easy thing at all. He said he loves Witten love that dude love how much he loves football all that stuff and then at the end there He said I still think primes probably gonna happen Dallas think it has to be somebody who knows the building is what Dallas Coolman said You know, that's one of those jobs where you have to know the building I think he's probably painting the same picture as the rest of us excited to see what Jerry does down there He needs to act like an owner just like he acted like Jerry Jones in land a little land man. Touche

I agree act like an owner. That's your next project. Do it. Have fun. Did Dallas have any thoughts on Penta? I Didn't ask fuck. I don't know if he saw Penta. I'm gonna send him a couple of highlights He was all over the place man. He did inverted Hurricane Rona from the side. That was sweet While Gabe was on his cabo we don't write up yet. And then how about his yeah in his Penta driver He's a dog. He is a dog. And they all obviously. So a lot of people I think that are like kind of like WWE fans, but

don't follow along with everything else. Like Penta has been dominant, AAA I believe down in Mexico and then there's Lucha Underground that was happening there. Basically every AEW he was happening there for basically every AWE was on there for a bit obviously like every wrestling promotion other than WWE He's been on and he's been very successful and very beloved So that's why whenever he signed with the WWE it was an impossible thing to keep like a secret because everybody was like it's happening It's happening. It's happening and last night. He even acknowledged like how much of a dream This is called the sacrifice where he just breaks a guy's arm

I didn't know that's where kiddle does that for his first down thing. I didn't know where that's now. I know Oh the dots are oh goodness. That's the driver right there He was it was a hell of a show It was a hell of an experience in there last night San Jose's crowd was awesome, too It was great right crowd for him to make his debut. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, 22 times WWE had been in that building, you know, there's some like wrestling cities that are like mass Pittsburgh's considered one of them Indianapolis WWE always comes through their cities like throughout the country that they always hit because they're big wrestling and they always have been always back all the way back

To like the territory days like hey this place loves wrestling. It's generational and everything like that San Jose's fan base is I Think a very very loyal wrestling fan base So I think it was good great time lucky to be there Michael Cole doing his thing all night Didn't get up on table and eat no it is I figure too old to be doing it every weekend on the table. Yeah, I remember his phone gave a life alert Yeah, exactly. You've taken a very hard fall. Are you okay? It seems like your heart's beating a little bit Are you okay? He said I'm eating and he was like don't be doing that. It's too much. Keep your ass in your seat Let's get to a break Dallas Clark was on the show great to see him I couldn't hear him, but he did see him. He was talking legend

He was giving a full fucking it was a great answer to him Right now coach with Dallas coach seems like he should with what I just heard with what you need I don't know. I think he's farming right now. He's actually farming right now It's cold course he is Course Dallas Clark's farming. We're a course dog. He might be a head coach in waiting in Iowa. Oh. Football! Hey, it's wonderful. That's AJ Hawk. The Toxic Table's here at Boston Connor and at

Ty Schmidt. Great hat, Con Man. Thank you very much. Yep. Team Moss. Moss cancer, baby. Hey, Randy, let's go Let's keep kicking. I was wondering the hammer dad Cowboys AP tone is here play like a champion today a little bit of bias may be there from turn day No, it was a gift given to me this holiday season by my family Well, my wife's family's my in-laws who live up in South Bend So, you know felt like a right time to wear it the mayor there of South Bend of South Bend for a while you remember? Him and Pete Butt. Hell yeah I forgot about Buttigieg up there doing the transportation in South Bend and then

you were heading up there every week and one time heading up there every single week. Yeah, seen his constituents. Yeah going to talk to people, love the South Bend area. Yeah it's a great area you know I wanted to support my friend Marcus Freeman didn't matter where he go to college I'm just gonna support him where he is now because he's my friend. That doesn't sound like that's a true statement, what you just said, and we would like to view Marcus Freeman as a friend of the program,

although I'm not 100% sure because I've picked against the Irish every single time I've got an opportunity. And what? Every single time I've got an opportunity, I've picked against him. And they have won. It's just like what happened in Michigan last year. It feels like the sentiment is very real from their damn fans don't you even

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Right there. I don't think needs to I don't think needs to be on the elevator. Yep needs to okay, and then there's a scent of Someone smells like fucking ass yeah you know and then your first thought is immediately can't be me please no please give me then you try to get to it you know in a natural way how do you somebody smells like fucking ass in here yeah and it's not me that should be acceptable though to do that like when you smell that you should have been like jesus christ who smells like fucking ass in here. And it's not me. That should be acceptable though, to do that. When you smell that, you should have been like, Jesus Christ, who smells like shite in here? We should be able to start doing that. I agree.

Yeah, take the stigma out of it. Because you don't have to. No, you don't. There are answers. This is just like drunk driving. Never been acceptable. Now more than ever, the fuck are you doing? With all the options that there is what are we doing any much less serious but still

irritating level nowhere near as much but you get it you don't have to smell anymore you don't have to ruin the society bingo back stuff still very serious you, if someone smells pretty terrible, whether their body or their breath, you're not hearing what they're telling you. Like you're not, you can't communicate very well. I didn't think about the amount of disinformation and miscommunication that's taking place

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It's aerosol free. Yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah, and it's also aluminum free out here. What do you want to smell? You should have it in here. I mean, how many things that I just make smell better? At least a thousand. I mean, so many air particles.

If there was a BO problem right here, gone. Yeah. Forever. Vanished. Get over here, Bill. People still sick. Bill, thank you for using the whole body deal.

It has been an obvious difference in our lives. Thank you, Bill. We appreciate you. Bill's a bodybuilder. Bill's a good smell in here, man. He's not a bad smell in here. He is. And he's becoming like a body. Working out with the bodybuilders, that is a bodybuilder. Bill's a good smell in here, man. He's not a bad smell in here. He is, and he's becoming like a body,

working out with the bodybuilders. Guy's jacked. That is a full lifestyle commitment. And you know, the bodybuilders are trying to be as attractive as possible. Like that is the whole purpose. There's a little difference to Bill in there. Oh yeah.

Little mustache jock to Bill. Have they started working on poses yet? I don't know. Have you started doing the? Yeah, yeah. He's at least watched YouTube videos. In private. In private. What are you doing? Are you doing the one that they wear the board shorts on? I think that's kind of fake it. I don't know why they do that as one have you ever seen that?

Yeah, you're gonna go that's like the fitness company like the fitness part of it or something to wear shorts And maybe they're nice not as juiced. I don't know. Yeah. Well, there's also the all natty ones I've seen a couple of these because people that I've played sports with have gone on to get into this world, and then they post on social media, and I just kind of watch along. The one with the shorts, I don't know what we're doing here.

You know, I don't know. I mean, I understand some people are just born with smaller legs, so they want to still be able to get absolutely jacked. But that one, getting introduced in my life was brand new. There's bodybuilding competitions where they're wearing board shorts. Slicky mouse. Yeah, but it could be like Foxy's legs on somebody that gets like obsessed with it, But that one getting introduced in my life was brand new. There's bodybuilding competitions where they're wearing board shorts. Mickey Mouse.

Yeah, but it could be like Foxy's legs on somebody that gets like obsessed with it. And there's like no chance to make those things. All genetics. Yeah, that's why, I mean, you're not allowed. And with the bodybuilding. Sorry about it, you said? Sorry about it, yeah.

No, you lose. That's what we're saying. I think it brings in the small legged people. There's all natty. And then there's the super, is there like a super juice? And then the kinda juice crews? What are they like the Olympia? If you're going for mr. Olympia, that's like the the pinnacle of what you want to be and that's super juiced, right? They're doing everything. I mean those dudes are absolute freaks. Yeah, like I was in the era growing up like high school college

We're muscle. We're getting muscle and fitness magazine like Dorian Yates seven-time Mr. Olympia like those guys were my hero. What was that gym in Ohio? It's a very famous gym. Are you talking West Side Barbell? I watched a documentary on that place it's in Ohio they followed not that I would ever have enough work ethic to show up there every single day I don't hate I don't at this stage of life maybe at 18 I think you could have caught me because of what happened at West Virginia going through a bar with workout I Maybe at 18 I think it could have caught me because of what happened at West Virginia going through a bar wuss workout. I think watching things, I think a maximum amount of effort that you have to give for the entirety of the time that you're in a place is certainly something that maybe I

could have done it. Now too comfortable. Sheets too good, pillows too good. Would not be able to do it. No thanks. But watching these documentaries, some of these, and Bill might be one of these guys, he's only getting into it more and more and more as the years roll on it kind of it becomes their entire oh yeah and they become hardened those fucking dudes and that becomes a great addiction it's like a good addiction for people every meal every sip every moment of their day is kind of calculated and mapped out and then they're just trying to yeah just move and wait guys aren't clean oh shit

there is all natural as Bill Bill doesn't have the spray tape on hold on Yeah, it's moving. Wait guys aren't clean. Oh shit. There is Bill bill bill doesn't have the spray tan. Okay, Ronnie, that's on the right but Like how he still does it with his hat on to well, it's right there bill Some guys wear shorts in some different levels. Yep. He wears a hat Does the vascularity on his forehead is actually considered illegal in the competition. That's his big clothes. Yeah, because it's too much. Yeah, he takes it off with just a head toss like that. And then they show the vascularity from front to back. It was like a rhino. I'm impressed by the amount of dedication and commitment you need.

They'll say, well, they're on a bunch of juice. It's like, the juice still got to go. A quarter of it. It still got to go quarter. Oh, brother. The juice certainly helps Okay, did you certainly helps but those things aren't just gonna grow themselves brother starts tomorrow? Yeah, you're right. We're starting tomorrow Oh, I neck McWuffin this morning. It was so good Always hits so good governor You're right. I'm acting like a deacon right now Shout to coach Herbert hell the season over there for the Chargers. It was a good season. Great start.

Yanser, legend, icon. Hey, people are using the word Jagoff now in committee hearings and things like that. Really? Where? I believe Jagoff was just mentioned in the political world. Were they in Pittsburgh? I don't know if the guy's from, I have no idea. It was- Is this the Pete Hegseth deal where he's at, right? Or Pete Hegseth, is he trying to get,

become whatever the secretary of state or whatever he's getting? Well, you know what it is. You're trying to bobble around, act like you're not. What is he? What is happening there with Pete? What is he?

He's trying to get sworn in, right? He's trying to get approved to be the dude. Okay, so uh... Defense Secretary. Defense Secretary. Defense Secretary, yeah. I saw Tim Kennedy tweeting about people getting kicked out for yelling and stuff. Okay, yeah, a lot of protests around these types of things throughout the years.

I do believe anytime somebody's getting put into a position of power, the people that don't appreciate that are going to have their voices heard. Ask America. You know, now how it goes about happening is kind of a part of it. But in the line of questioning how it got into my feed is because he was quoted as calling somebody a jag-off, I guess, at one point. And somebody from Rhode Island, I believe,

a Democratic, what would that be? Those things, senators, congress, congressperson. Committee chair, representative. Whatever it is. Should we explain what a jag-off is? And Pete says, I don't think it needs to be explained I think people know and I'm like I hope Jagoff just becomes the thing now Jagoff is a great word I don't think we use it enough to be honest with you and that's probably

because we just ran through it as kids Jagoff was used as everything yeah I don't be a Jagoff this guy's a Jagoff show to play with the food this fucking Jagoff everybody I was introduced to my freshman year in college my defense Don't be a Jag off. This guy's a Jag off. Showed up late with the food. This fucking Jag off. Everybody. I was introduced to my freshman year in college, my defensive coordinator, Todd Orlando, Pittsburgh guy. Don't be a Jag off. Don't be a fucking Jag off. It can be used in so many different ways.

So imagine Pete trying to explain all the different ways for somebody's late for something could be considered Jag off behavior. It's also how you say it, the tone with what you said? It was an actual mad jag off like it. Oh, are we going is this real deal disrespect? Just happened or was this this jag off just cracked a joke. You know was pretty clever and pretty solid I don't know how to describe it to you, sir But doesn't need to be is what he said and I love that you know, Yenzer's are kind of getting a little bit more love Maybe they want to play off game people appreciate them more

Shit already Smith Russell Wilson have good working relationship. Is that what you is that what they said? Tony dogs, you don't believe it. He did use a certain what? Tony dogs. You don't believe it? He did use a certain... What? That I had like past tense like one of these two guys aren't gonna be here. No they're acting they're asking about how the season went and they said this is just like when Kevin O'Connell says when I look back on this season I'm gonna have great memories with Sam Darnall everybody's like it's over it's over it's like no they're at their answer questions about how the year went I think that's an A-OK answer. I just don't know if Artie and Russ are two peas in a pod. Maybe, you know, maybe.

I saw George Pickens, he does the blade stuff, games included. He's making some big time plays and some high profile games. Russell Wilson's dancing around the pocket, showing up dressing cool, making big time plays. Starting to get a handle on the offense later in the year. Things are going to look pretty different. Yeah. At all levels. All levels. Devae Adams was on up and Adams with K Adams and

Was asked if he would play for Tom. He said 100% Yeah Aaron has both said that yeah big Mike McCarthy's out there still. Oh hold the phone Could you you family Mike McCarthy offense coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers? You fathom. Mike McCarty, offensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Aaron Rodgers quarterback. Devontae Adams is wide receiver. What are you doing with Artie Smith? Are you just kicking him out of the building? He's gonna be the New York Jets head coach. No he ain't. He's coming home. Aaron Jones is a free agent too. You might as well bring him in.

Ah, Artie Smith cut his teeth. His best years as offensive coordinator. With Mike Vrabel. One seed. Mustaches only maybe up there. Yeah Mike Vrabel. Mm-hmm. One seed. Mustaches only maybe up there. Yeah, ring a bell. About McDaniels. Yeah.

Oh yeah, cause Josh McDaniels, friend of the program up there. He's a UNC. It's a very hot job to have right now. Oh, you're saying people are clamoring to get back to New England. Sure feels like it. I feel good about Vrabel up there. I feel great about it. And McDaniels, I didn't realize this until yesterday when Shepter said it. He's

still getting paid from the Raiders for like two more years. How about Russ? Russ still getting paid next year from the Broncos, right? Yeah. So he's still potentially taking very team friendly deal wherever he's playing quarterback at. Maybe he's with Kevin O'Connell next year. Oh, there you go. Is JJ not going to be healthy? What? McCarthy. I don't know if he's quarterback.

Has he been in the building? I personally, if I'm running Minnesota Vikings, which I'm not, I'm very okay with JJ getting a year watching someone, just like he was probably supposed to do this year with Sam Darnold, watching a quarterback be a quarterback through an NFL season, personally. Now if all hell goes, you know,

and takes place, then you do what happened in New England, which I think they're playing on Drake made watching the whole year, and then it kind of gets so bad that they're kind of forced to put him in there, and then you learn how great he is. I think there's, I think that is a benefit to the quarterback. Oh yeah. Especially if you miss your first year. Just coming off of what we're coming off of here in Indianapolis, because how much was he in the building, How much did he see how many ups? How many downs how many the off days how many of the the work weeks? How many of the schedule how many of the arrival how much all that shit handling teammates?

How do how to handle the media how to talk to coaches all that should be in a pro? How much did he get I don't know cuz I don't know the situation But I think I assume they're planning on doing a Sam Donald like situation again Where they get a veteran quarterback at a lesser amount of money and then have JJ kind of do they got well in Sam Dan Jones Yeah, cuz he was sitting there on the sideline. I was thinking is are they putting Dan Jones in this game? Hey, I'm on one. I was watching that game. I was really watching it half asleep. I'm like Are we about to get fucking Daniel Jones with the Minnesota Vikings right now? Could you imagine he goes in there when's it goes? Absolutely off just such running all over the place Rams defense. Oh shit

We could never guess somebody who's gonna be able to run like this in gameplay for this Daniel Jones going into the divisional round this guy's gonna get paid 50 million dollars here and instead it's like Sam Donald Can you this guy can't do it? How about he said he'd pay him get paid 50 million dollars here and instead it's like Sam Donald can this guy can't do it How about he said he pay him three years hundred million dollars and they're on insane Could it's very similar said that AJ did you hear that? Was that what Shetty said tone? Dakes that he would give Sam Donald three years a hundred million dollar deal That's what Baker got for having the exact same one single. Yeah, okay, would you give Russell listen that deal? No He's older russ is older once One's 27, one's 37. Baker beat the Eagles.

What's that, buddy? I mean, listen. Baker beat the Eagles in the playoffs. If we're looking at the year before. If we're looking for a quarterback to take us to 10-7 and losing the first round of playoffs, Sam Darnold's our guy. Is that what you want? Do it for three years. No, that's just what we're going to do. So. Oh, okay. So you're, I don't, we don't know what your feelings are, your projections on what the Steelers operations going to be. I don't know either. They did just pick up Skyler Thompson. So maybe, you know, who he's pretty good.

Yeah, he was very good for the Dolphins this year. They're already back to work. Tomlin said it. He said, I'm already back to work. I'm ready for next year. How about all those things that I put out? You know, I did a little pitch presentation deck on the graphic all the reese Every team has to do that. But what eight now? Yeah that pump

Yeah, start with 32 counting down to eight. Look at all those look at all those So much has to happen and go right for you to win what the Patriots did for 20 plus years absurd What the Chiefs are doing right now? Insane and if your team's good right now you should enjoy it because There's so much shit that goes into literally every single offseason AJ You have to like you go to you have to enjoy every part of it That's like what Mike Tomlin said like he's ready to get restarted like it's true When you say restart to is the restart mean April when they come back for the offseason workout

Does that mean the end of July when you start training camp because you are still so Far away from actual real football It's like overwhelming to think how much you have to do just to get back to have a chance to try to be a good Team next yeah, I mean the Steelers just signed the quarterback today. You know I mean this is happening right now This is all happening in real time and in some places They don't even have a coach head. T.L.O.N. Sanders gonna be coaching the Dallas Cowboys at the beginning of the show I thought no way Now At the beginning of the show I thought no way. Now at the end of the show maybe I got caught up in the ESPN lab sports media kitchen.

And you said it does feel like a movie. It just makes too much too much sense. For everything they're looking for too. Yeah. And Jerry would love to flex that he hired Dion Sanders especially if he ends up to be a great coach in the NFL which is certainly possible now with the Dallas Cowboys is it possible to be great we shall see but like Jerry that would be a Jerry would love to be the guy you know Jerry Jones move I hired not only coach prime to play football for me which he was a fantastic cowboy prime please tell him who started your NFL coaching career please ask Jimmy the same fucking question please whenever he came out of Prime, please tell them who started your NFL coaching career, please. Ask Jimmy the same fucking question, please, whenever he came out of college coming to the Dallas Cowboys.

Please do that thing. I have an eye for talent now. People know, nobody gives old Uncle Jerry credit for the eye for talent that I have. Sure, we haven't won a Super Bowl in a long time. We might have come short, but not this fucking year. We're going to do some flash, some pizzazz, some prime time. Every week, prime time and primetime would be awesome. Yeah.

Would people hate Prime more or less? More. More. Immediately. Without a doubt. Immediately. For sure. No questions asked.

I don't think so. I think it depends if they get Chedure or not. If they don't get Chedure, I think less. I agree. Shepty said this morning on his podcast, there's absolutely no way they're trading back Prescott. I mean, obviously- What is is that 106 million or something? Yeah, he's just said there's no way that the Titans are gonna take that on because they would presumably have to trade up to number

One to get him he said if Dion takes the job It'll be on the Cowboys merits and he's just gonna have to accept that he's not gonna be coaching Choudhury Okay, so Colorado he has all the say Dallas from what you just described sounds like it's gonna be obviously in Jerry's world and how he's gonna have to do it. That's probably a very tough decision. That's a very tough ultimatum because what he has done at Colorado,

he like, he's flipped an entire community into a football community again. I think he had been for a long time, then obviously disappeared for a while. They're all the way back. And every time I say they added his stadium, I guess their fans get mad. I mean, they like updated everything that they've had.

That Jumbotron's bigger than Lucas Hole Stadium has over there. The season tickets, obviously, the merch, everything that the attention that has been brought to that beautiful place. And we were lucky to go there. Gorgeous. And we never went there.

If Deion Sanders is not the coach there alongside, beautiful place up there. What were the Flatirons? Is that what it was called? I believe it was the Flatirons. Yeah, the Foothills of the Flatirons. The Foothills of the Flatirons out in there and the Word in there. The Rock was there. I mean it was, that was a magical moment.

If he was to leave, the people of Colorado would obviously be pissed. A lot of people in college would say, I told you so. I told you so. I told you so. What college coach wouldn't take the Dallas Cowboys head coaching job? If they're offered. Jack Bingo. Well, like legit.

Three of them. Like landing Kirby. And even then maybe they would. Legit, who wouldn't? I don't know. If offered, yeah. If offered, would any of them turn it down? Like you'd have to really think about that.

And then all the people that are going to dance on it and be like, he's just like we said, it's like. Yeah. that's what happens that is like the you know one of the Mike Tomlin whenever he was asked if he was gonna go coach USC he said I'm the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers this chair is like one of the most important ones in the world in our profession so no offense basically but no chance is that even happening in what world is anybody having that conversation? I think that Dallas Cowboys job now, I know Troy says it's not very coveted but

Sarcassian gets offered to Dallas Cowboys job. We think he's gonna take it. Yes. I think it's coveted to Dion as well What's that? It means a little bit more to Dion since he played there. Yeah. Yeah, I agree I mean this opportunity may never come again Like if they hire a guy who's great like guess what he's You know, it's not like he's one of these other guys who's 37 38 years old and like if they fail they're gonna have a couple more cracks at this like this is probably You would think this would be maybe his only opportunity to go coach in the NFL. What was the quote? It's intriguing He said when Jerry calls, it's intriguing obviously

But I love what we're doing here and then Scheffer said the way it ended was he said. When Jerry calls it's intriguing obviously but I love what we're doing here and then Scheffer said the way it ended was he asked him if he knows what's gonna happen and promising I don't know. So I think he didn't even think this was gonna be an option. I think he this kind of when I when it happens and it starts kind of taking place he probably hadn't even really I assume he had thought about what an NFL team would look like if he was coaching it. I don't think he thought maybe the opportunity was gonna come with a cab I mean the whole coaching cycle came and went McCarthy was still there assumed to be there so it's like how many different teams would prime even consider being the head coach of since he did play with the Cowboys and

How much is he actually like contemplating right now the entire process? I assume a lot. That's a heavy I would assume I mean it would be you know almost idiotic not to he's always said in the past like I don't see it I don't know if I'm built to coach with like rich rich people or grown man You know making all that type of money But now the way to college landscape is shit they're making money you coaching those rich guys who but now they're just 19 20 year olds instead of you know 25 30 year olds, so definitely intriguing I'll be interested to see, because I'm kind of like you,

I'm like probably 50, 50 right now. And maybe coming into the weekend, I'm thinking like, nah, that won't happen. 10% maybe coming into the show, let's see. 10% of it happening. Now, 50, 50. Maybe Coach Prime's going to be down in Dallas. That's going to be an awesome press conference.

Remember what Jerry and Mike McCarthy did when they launched their last relationship. Yeah, it was fireworks. I can't even imagine what prime, the shoes that are gonna come out of this. Yeah, it'd be electric. Oh my God. The content.

Can Jerry just hire Deion or do they have to abide by the Rooney rule and interview a white dude? I don't think that is a part of the Rooney rule. It's just for minority coaches. Yeah. I know. So, you thought the minority rule was we need to interview somebody from each race. Yeah.

Bingo. That's an AP voter. What about like the Asian folks? Yeah. Bingo. I think that if we- The Latino folks. Yeah, I think we should be doing it.

You said we need to increase the Rooney rule. Yes. A lot of people are calling into question the Rooney rule and its effectiveness. You're saying we need to add more to the Rooney rule. I don't think a lot needs to be interviewed. Okay. I don't think from the way the Rooney rule is currently staying. Rob Mayo got hired in 10 minutes. Yeah written into his contract. Yeah but they might have interviewed Crafts kid I guess. Harry? Behind those doors.

Jonathan? To knock out the white interview. I think that's what the Rooney rule was put in. They were worried white guys weren't getting enough interviews. I think that's what it was for, right? I think that's more opportunity. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Not enough white guys getting interviews. Gotta make sure we have that. Could you imagine the NFL added that? Oh my God. The internet would be fantastic. All right.

Before we get out of here, I think we gotta do a giveaway. Bail him a coma, see if he's too jacked to do any of the sports. Yeah, he is. Could happen on the court, so I would not be asking him to do it. 40 reps, 225. Yeah, go squad 500 pounds. Hold on, Tim Tebow, we made a deal he said 225 30 times right yep and then we said he's gonna do city might be able to get 34

he believes yeah he was like pretty exact which means he's tried so he knows exactly how many he could get he is a monster mm-hmm he was when I brought it up during the the field pass all cast on ESPN to whenever he was there great talking to him. I said, hey, I heard you were in the gym this morning, three hours. I heard, because it was ESPN Hotel. So there was like three different groups of people that did their workouts and exited that saw Tim Tebow in the weight room.

Now I'm not saying all the groups that were represented are having full hour long lifts, but I'm saying three different groups said, hey, saw Tebo in a weight room this morning at this time. They leave. Somebody else said they were in the gym, did not see the first person that talked to me, but did see Tim Teebo. And then another group, I'm like, did you see Bang Bang? Like, no, didn't see them. Teebo's still in the gym. So he outlasted three separate workouts from three people that I talked to, and they all felt obligated to tell me about the workout too like he was fucking getting after it wasn't just like this was like a hotel workout this was a fucking he

was getting after it in there it's like it makes sense he is jack-jock John fuck the G is his wife his back is built like a Texas longhorn yeah it is like beaver walked by and it was like that's what fucking t-bone what is he doing is he doing bodybuilding what do you think he's doing? He lives heavy. He got he was like he looked at me like he got offended when I asked him About if he's doing high reps or something. He's like nobody or nobody wants to do reps I'm just lifted heavy weights like he he is good. He's trying to he's in he's in bulking season at all times It sounds oh, yeah, you guys had your little meathead interaction I do recall that and he was he was upset with you so big

Gigantic legs to him. I mean legs. No his legs are huge. Like that's the thing like he Timmy top to bottom is in great shape Yeah, yes, and I believe he and his lady just announced that they're gonna have chocolate Going to I thought it maybe just had one. No are going that was announcement Oh, it was a sonogram or whatever. No, are going. Oh, that was announcement. Oh, it was sonogram or whatever it is. Oh, okay. Okay, sweet So the way you read it was not how I read it, but could have been true That's why you saw my reaction there to get a little bit further of a check congrats to them on Conceived I mean that's obviously massive ordeal. I assume that baby is gonna be so athletic mm-hmm just a

T-bone through and through. Congrats to the couple. Hell yeah, T-bow. We haven't met Mrs., right? No. Never. I wonder what she thinks of our shit whenever Tim's on the show.

I certainly didn't like it when Hawker called him a prophet, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, he did not like that. I just called back. I love how he just powers through. I just don't like that. Mike, we're not even talking. He just went right past whatever question

or whatever comment we throw at him. So Sam, you know, Sam NFL fan, obviously lives in Indianapolis, so loves sports and stuff. Didn't follow as closely, you know, like ESPN and stuff back in like 2005. I said, Sam, you have no idea what Tim Tebow is. I see ESPN actually revolved around Tim Tebow

and the Brawn Jams. That is a matter of fact. Anything Tim Tebow is, I see ESPN actually revolved around Tim Tebow and the Braun Jims. That is a matter of fact. Anything Tim Tebow did, breaking. Ba da da, da da da. Tim Tebow took a four wipe shit this morning. People are wondering if his diet had changed cause normally he's a no wiper as you would assume. Now back to insert whatever.

That was Tim Tebow for a long time right wasn't it legit absolutely remember he signed with the Patriots for a quick minute and I believe was on the Jets there was like a video of him running shirtless when it's raining after practice that was eggs when urban Meyer was there a few years ago and it was still massive tight end wasn't he yeah he was playing tight end, wasn't he? Yeah, he was playing tight end. Then he played baseball. This is him playing tight end with the Jags. Obviously his biceps are going to eat the football. At this point, he was in the middle of balking season. I'm not a hundred percent sure he was ready to be back in football, especially in a position

he had never played before. But fuck it. I'll give it a go. Athlete. He goes and plays baseball later into his athletic career. It's like, every time he comes on I feel obligated to remind them of who he is and let him know that like hey listen We experienced what you did dude. It was awesome. Yeah, but I don't know if everybody knows that that's who Tim Tebow is I'm starting to realize I don't even remember Swamp Kings helped I remember when the Swamp Kings documentary came out people were like holy shit Tim Tebow the ones who didn't know and lived through all he's a real deal brother he would give these speeches as if he was either a preacher pastor Jesus Christ or a head ball coach all at the same and the one he said you're never gonna see a team fight harder work harder come together bye bye and they never lose

anyone in the national championship it's like this guy and then you meet him and it's like oh this is actually who he is all day every day Love Jesus Christ. He does his Lord and Savior. Amen I'm happy. It's gonna do a great place. They changed praying To t-bowie. Yeah, I had to remind Sam and Sam, you know taking a knee and praying that was called t-bowing Yeah, I don't think t-bow love that by the way. But an addiction here. He didn't mind the fact that more people were praying though. No, why would he?

That's the coolest out with the Broncos now. More person to listen to. To be drafted by the Broncos to win. That last quarterback, right? To be drafted by the Broncos. I think only. Only ever? I thought so.

Yeah, cause Elway was drafted by the Colts. Yeah. And he saw him up late. What was that all about? I don't like that one. He saw the right hand on the wall. He saw the hell of a baseball Yeah, and he saw my player. What was that all about? Maybe he's a prophet great car dealership. Yes, he does Fucked up that deal though completely off-track The fact that Nick Saban's just moving a thousand whips a week or a month down in Miami and all these other cities is so awesome

He just flies in Has his meeting with his team, gives a motivational message, things out of there. And another record breaking month for him. Like think about him actually leading like business. He does. He like goes and speaks to all these businesses. And he's a great businessman. He always gives credit to the guy that he does work with

who pitched him on the original idea. But he's like very invested, like very much flies down, checks in, wants to build a relationship, wants to motivate and then he gets out. Obviously it's profitable, it's good business. But on the other side, I think he just like leading. Like I think he likes doing all. It was a cool year getting a chance to watch

Nick Saban work this year, legit. Like just just listen to him the amount of knowledge that just accidentally falls out of his fucking mouth just What was that one? Just trying to pick it up like genius this guy leader when you talk about it through and through walks the walk obviously can talk to talk in a great fashion and he is a Benefit he was at a golf out and I think mm-hmm oh yeah loves golf now right? I did see him golfing yesterday. He was striping the ball I heard. Oh yeah. Best round of his life. That's what he does. I don't know which round you're talking about. He plays three times a week I do believe it's a big deal.

I think there is a little bit of a sandbag situation he always talks about how bad he is. Anytime we start talking about playing golf he's always like well I'm not that you know I'm not that. I think he's trying to I let him know every time like I suck at golf coach like if we were to play you will beat me I want to let you know that no yeah, yeah, we'll just we'll work on some things You know he loves golf got a nice swing great Pro am play college baseball. Oh shit. I didn't know that. I saw him swinging up Yeah, yeah, so like there'll be times. We're over on the

I saw him swinging it up. Oklahoma? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like there'll be times we're over on the, still don't know the name of it, but the one that has the grass where I almost died with the things on. Yeah. And then I have the big pointer thing. So there'll be times where I'm like, it would be Reese's either voiceover or video or a commercial break, we're sitting there and I'll just get bored naturally because that fucking

pointer so it's a huge thing. So I start doing a golf swing, you know, and then all of a sudden he'll be like and he'll be like change your grip and I it's like this is literally during commercial Reese's talking we're all mic'd up so we can't say anything and I'm like doing this he's like trying to get I said he's like 10g I'm like okay all right all right what Scottie tell you something Whatever your natural swing is don't ever do whatever that was don't ever do that again. Okay. Whatever feels good. What is that? Don't ever do whatever that was. I'm trying to get it whatever's just that just do whatever's natural. Is he playing tonight?

Fox you started doing that right? He is not. Yeah I went back to get it. Whatever's just that just do whatever's natural. He played it Foxy. You started doing that, right? He's not yeah I went back to my natural swing and who would have known I'm hitting so many more greens out back than I was before Yeah, start messing with stuff. What would you do other if you're not if you're not swinging your swing? What are you doing? Yeah, you watch Instagram and Try that and then you're gonna stay dumb. Yes saying really. Exactly. Well, that's kind of what Scotty, that's basically what Scotty, Scotty and I had a 15 second conversation

about my golf game and I think I got it fixed. Basically he was like, whatever is natural, just do that. And I think what he said on top of that is like, see how the ball flies and then fucking just adjust. Cause whatever your natural thing is like, oh my God, you make golf so easy. It's like when Bill Belichick starts talking about, you know, football, it's like the smallest, easiest thing, just do that. It's like, that's

what I took away from my combo with Scotty. Now to your question, I don't believe Scottie's playing night, but Tigers playing Tigers playing tonight. Scottie's not a part of it at all. I believe. Well, that's a new his new father. Who's on who's on Tigers team? This is the TGL situation. Max home I know is on his team. Kisner is on his team. Oh, okay tears of Jupiter taking on the who's that? set Kevin Kisner

it is Jupiter links not here's Jupiter Jupiter links And then it's the LA God. It's the LA golf club. It's that kind of corn fairy? Okay. He's losing Is that what that guy is? Who's the guy with corn? That's it. That's the he's the gala. He's good player Oh, yeah He's sponsored by the corn fairy. I guess I don't love that. They got a fucking Brit on the LA GC though I don't know that's far left, right? Yeah, exactly Rosie's been an LA he's electrifying though. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah

Collins who's far right big face looks like he hits the ball. Well, Kevin kids. That's kids He's electrifying though, is he not? Oh yeah, oh yeah Collins Who's far right? Big face, looks like he hits the ball well Kevin Kizner That's Kiz? That is Kevin Kizner? He's gotten younger somehow I did not know That is Kevin Kizner

I love Kevin Kizner It's hard to recognize with a 30 rack of beer That guy is a good time. Okay, I'm pulling for them just strictly because of the vibes. Obviously Tiger's on the team. He's getting sued, you see that? Oh yeah.

Wow, your little tiger looks a lot like what we have been doing for I don't know, 50 fucking years, pal. Who's sleuthing? That was the first thing I thought of when I saw it. Yep. Logo. Puma?

Yeah. No. I see it everywhere. People are wearing that, can't keep it in the shelves. Excuse me, Tyrese Halliburton. Puma? Yeah. No. I see it everywhere. People are wearing that. You can't keep it in the shelves. Excuse me, Tyrese Halliburton. Yeah.

Puma King. And I also learned he's listed as doubtful for tonight's game. Yeah. I was actually picking the casters because he was playing. Turns out he's probably not playing. But Puma's not happy with the way that tiger's shaped.

So people are gonna get confused. Well, there's Sunday red to AJ's point all over the goddamn place. Yeah, same everywhere. I look Same a Puma. It's almost a battle who can see what in the wild first Mm-hmm, but Tigers Tigers going to the right and the Puma's jumping left. Yeah, it's like the clothes Yeah, they're both are full extension though, cuz that's the most maximum power And obviously you'd want a tiger maximum power in a Puma

Puma it's two different animals jungle cats. Certainly. Yes. I mean, I don't hate it though from Puma matchup. Also it's Puma, it's two different animals. Jungle Cats, certainly, but I mean. I don't hate it though from Puma. You know, just throwing a line out there. Say, shit, we might win this thing. Fuck it, let's sue them. Let's see what's going on. And give people, give some pub to tell you. I don't hate it.

This might be a work. It could be a work. This might be a work by Big Red to buy Big Puma. Exactly. Jungle Cats unite. Could be. We don't know. Bring a little spotlight to both brands Puma. Exactly. Jungle Cats Unite. Mm-hmm. Could be. We don't know. Bring a little spotlight to both brands.

I like that. Mm-hmm. Town, you got all the Sunday Red. I never see you wear any of it. A bunch of it. Well, it's not golf season. Will you wear it? When it's golf season, yeah.

Oh, certainly you're going to walk out on that first tee. Yeah. You ever see one of these? Puma? No. Asshole. Yeah. Sunday Red.

To the right. It's big red. Dave Butts got some too. Golf season. Love it. Hey, Q Schwartz, I'm in here. Yeah. Great quality. You got that 800 buck hoodie. Yep. It's shite, guys. It's absolute shite. Oh, that's fine. I mean, the Nike line with Tiger Woods was the greatest golf gear of all time.

I don't know what happened, but we need to bring that back. It sounds like Puma's starting to maybe move in on the action. You know that's always good. But you're right Nike and Tiger I mean I think changed golf history. One of the same. Yes. So whenever we heard he was going independent we thought to ourselves we'll pull for him out there then I open a website and I said I'm paying 2,000 for a fucking golf I'm sorry. I don't have time they were trying to catch up to their earnings from a 20-year standpoint Yeah, Nike to just in the first go. This is what we need to return on this We think if we saw 10 of these things at 15 grand a pop

We're right there It seemed like a mess. We're right there. It seemed like a miss, I don't know. I assume they sold out. I assume they sold out, it's Tiger. Just like tonight, I'll watch because Tiger's playing golf. That's right.

I'm a simple human being. If Tiger Woods is swinging a golf club, you're probably gonna see me watching it. And I'll probably be judging and expecting he's gonna win the whole fucking thing. Yep. Doesn't have to walk, so he should. Yeah, it's almost created for him.

No doubt. TGL, Tiger's Golf created for him. No doubt TGL Tigers Golf League Yeah, better be shit-talking Yep, if I know kids drink seven eight beers before they head out there, and he's gonna let it fly. He's gonna be loose. Yeah Kids is gonna bury a massive putt. Yeah early. I think get the vibes rolling tarps off. Oh my god Maybe they do end up shirtless. Yeah, I think about TGL having shirtless golfers might throw a flag early. Oh, they're farmers tan. That'd be amazing They they have the worst hands in sport. Yes forehead bang Stewart Stewart sink by far permanent legend Yeah, I'll still give away before we get out of here on this glorious super wild Tuesday. It hasn't super

Wall, I mean Deon's a head coach to Dallas Cowboys Still give away before we get out of here on this glorious super wall Tuesday. It hasn't super wall super wall super wall I mean Deon's a head coach who does cowboys, you know, it might be the sage who was burning here But I'm a believer. I think it's gonna happen. I don't know if I should like McCarthy's gonna be the OC the Pittsburgh Steelers Come back home. Why not? It's like Arthur Smith's gonna be offense coordinator of bingo New England Patriots Who says no Josh McDans potentially. Mm-hmm Josh McDaniels been done the do-si-do he put his right foot in he was the Colts head coach Then he put his right foot out. I'm not gonna be the coach cuz the owner took a shit Those were the days clogged up the tongue

Potentially like his ass with a hand towel. Was it the master best master bath or hall bath I was right there off the dining room I heard it was a master bath and even started to get the jacuzzi going maybe try to you squat good day no bidet all right time you want to do the giveaway that tone that's the right move on you look you sound confident oh but if you want I got the giveaway? That's the right move. You sound confident, Tony. But if you won, I will. Tony, you can't pass the giveaway, please. For the good of the people. Play like a champion.

I like Jordan's. Throw like a champion. Throw your golf gear on. Believe. What do you want to do, Tony? Football. Putt. There is an opportunity to putt.

There are a few golf balls already in the holes. Shout out to whoever made those putts. I'm proud of are a few golf balls already in the holes. Shout out to whoever made those putts. I'm proud of them. Golf season's right around the corner. You're going to fucking take some strokes off your game. And it's the work that you put in right here. It's going to save your afternoons with the lads.

Cause you can go from being a good day at golf to this fucking sucks. You miss three putts on every single hole. Exactly. That flat stick will get you. That's why you need one of these. Now we have one of these and none of us use it. I do not use it.

I believe D-Butch gets in there every once in a while. I gotta get back on it. Foxy will get in there every once in a while. J.C. uses it. J.C. is certainly working on it. Pudding's not fun, man. Pudding's is not that fun. Golf as a whole has become not a lot of fun for me.

Yeah, quick golf. Because of how bad I've been. But putting was certainly my least desired part of golf whenever I was playing. I think I'm getting back in the game this spring. Nice. Is that because we're not doing a soccer thing? Maybe. Probably.

I'm excited for you to get back. And the golf? Oh yeah. You should get a scramble partner because I got one in this building and we're one of the power rankings right now. What's that, buddy? Who is that? Foxy?

D-Bone? Toc. Toc? What's going on? What? Toc plays golf? Mm-hmm. What is this, goofball golf?

What do you... I've played golf with Toc before. He plays exactly how you think he plays. Oh, really? Okay, so he swings one-handed. I think it's a... Eyes closed. I think it's a wide face. I think it's a real wide face. I think we're all using one hand. I think it's a wide face. I

think it's a real wide face. I think we're all using one hand. I think the other hand is potentially just there to guide it. And I think he's making solid contact. So, 175 yards right in the middle of the fairway. Okay, they step it up again. And he's getting all I think feet are facing. I think feet are facing the pit. Yeah, I don't I don don't you know I don't think it's like a straight on I think it's feeling like this and I think it does Yeah, I've seen I've never seen him golf put in my head

I just want no that spot on then double bogey triple bogey you name it. Oh, it doesn't matter He's not fazed. He just moved moses on to the next door. Oh, that's a tough hole clutch Golf's hard talks the best i was really worried about him whenever tick lock was about to disappear good news uh mr wonderful uh has been able to find somebody who could actually buy tiktok and tell them to buy tiktok i think is what's happening oh i thought g jing ping said we'll sell it to you on that's it. Yeah, so I think, I think there's only a few people on earth that have enough money to potentially be able to buy it.

You know, if you think about what X went for, Twitter went for, it's like 40 billion, right? 48 billion. TikTok is massive, has the entire younger generation. So when Mr. Wonderful came out and said he was gonna buy it, I was certainly impressed, but I didn't know how he was gonna put a licensing deal together like this with Shark Tank to be able to get something that's probably 50 billion. came out and said he was gonna buy it. I was certainly impressed, but I didn't know how he was gonna put a licensing deal

together like this with Shark Tank to be able to get something that's probably 50 billion. I mean, probably. If you just think about the price. And are you, you gotta monetize it too. I mean, I don't know how it is compared to Twitter and X, but yeah, I don't know. Couldn't you low ball it, by the way,

cause you're losing half their units. You should. I think, I don't know how, I've never done business with China. Sure. I don't know how I've never done business with China sure I don't know if they'd be willing to take it rather than get screwed over in a deal I don't know. I don't know what what would they rather happen? But there's only a few people that could get up into that world And I think Bezos is certainly one of them, but he's always on the odds doing stuff exactly see ready to run tick-tock

Him doing dances on there. Will they let Elon have two of the most powerful social media? Now you're starting monopoly stuff but if you think about Zuck, Zuck has two of the biggest, right? Zuck owns two of the biggest. Facebook's still out there? What's there? What are they at? Facebook? Yeah, I think he said uh I forget the number. He just saw Rogan. He said a lot. Said a lot of Rogan. Yeah. I saw a lot of that. Yeah, I saw it in clips.

It was pretty crazy what he said. He's strange. Very crazy. 750, I forget the number. Grotesque number every day on- Active users. Yeah, it is a fucking absurd number. And then he talked about threads having,

I forget 750 million, 250 million, I forget. I forget. Okay, so I don't believe Now they get to yearly not daily. Oh, yeah. I think he very there was a massive Just like but are they getting new people to Facebook though or new people signing up for Facebook? I don't know, you know every once in a while. I'll hop over there if somebody like post a photo Like I think it is on accident. Yes Somebody will text me and say hey, did you see blank on this and I'm like, I didn't know we were still checking on there But then I'd go over there and I see a photo It'd be like I think that's what it used to be more like Facebook like checking up with family and like photos from a distance

But now like Instagram is kind of just taken Like right above us like a little bit old generation That's like yeah, all right, maybe aunts uncles older cuz older brothers. That's where I that's the only time I get shit from Facebook You see no, I see I think there's some people like I don't know granted I went to West Virginia and some of these guys live Like in small towns, but I'll get I'll get a text from somebody Orange mm-hmm. Don't say hey, do you see this on Facebook in every time I read it? I think I'm reading a different language Is that I

Expect to see that and then I'll go over there check it out. There's I think there's still a lot people doing it I think I don't know that's what Zuck said. I think my generation down is not at all at all Yes, that's dead in script. I mean, I think it's older than that con. I think yeah Generation yeah, I don't think our generation Yeah It's like my parents going to check it on what? Their net niece and nephews are doing could because what their parents are posting about them or it's like random people ranting about something stupid about The trees not being trimmed in the front yard or something. I feel like we're social media people. That's what I mean. If he's saying

that they have a bunch of people. Yeah but those olds might live on there too. Yeah. That's why that stuff starts happening which is why the Zuck situation was so... Yeah monthly active users Facebook 3 billion. Yeah YouTube 2.7 billion. Yes probably outside the US it's got to be huge too. Yeah. YouTube 2.7 billion. Probably outside the US, it's gotta be huge too. Yeah, but YouTube also, I can't take outside the US. Where is this from? Twitter's not on here.

Yeah, cause remember, they say Twitter does not have anywhere near as many active users, because it is a cruise and watch website, as opposed to an active user site. I believe that. What's YouTube? They consider watchers, I think, active users. So we got different rules for different places.

Yeah, I think that's like YouTube. I don't think YouTube is all the people that are creating on there. I don't think that's the amount of people that are creating on there. I think that's the amount of people that are watching on there. And then X, I think, is the amount of people that are active on there, like creators on there. I think that's the amount of people that are watching on there. And then X, I think is the amount of people that are active on there, like creators on there. I think that's how it's been judged. But to your point, that does feel like two things. Yeah. X is 15th on that list there.

But is it just humans using site or active on site? I think an active user is just someone logging on and visiting the site in that month. Interesting, man. A lot of young people don't use X like that. Nope. They're going to get there. They'll get there. That's the one.

Yeah, but the young people think, well, they don't use Facebook, so they just have all the old people who are saying. Yeah, but I think you get older and you get into these. The organic traffic, though. And Facebook was the first, like, real, I mean, you had MySpace, but then Facebook became like the first big like social media. Even like a lot of our stuff we post still goes on Facebook unless you like turn off that setting. Yeah, we post on Facebook right now.

I have not checked that out. I should go over there, see how that's going. Holy fuck, good reminder right there, D-Bud. Yeah, cause they asked me like 40 times, would you also like to post on Facebook? And I'm like, I don't know which one. Like, I don't have the passwords for these things. Either they're like, Pat McAfee show Facebook page.

Would you like to post on there? Why not? Smart, okay, I'll hit yes. And then they take a picture of my face. They're like, yep, you're good to go. I'm like, is that even logged in anywhere? I don't even know how we're gonna get it. But it's up over there. Shout out to Z Zuck Zuck was in the middle of a lot of

stuff I think with what are you saying oh yeah mm-hmm I'm sure he wasn't playing both sides in the moment what whoa I don't know why would he still give away let's not talk you seem like a human at least. It's a news up. Yeah, I agree, agent. Yeah, he's doing jujitsu. Yeah, he wants to fight. He wants to have like a jujitsu match. I'll wait for Cat Williams to make sure. He's got Jack Harlow hair though. Did you see that? He's got that big, I like the boofy hair. He looks sweet.

Had a chain on. He's doing jujitsu. He's a chameleon. No, I think he's a human. In that world he's done. He shoots wild pigs on his ranch with a bow and arrow. Definitely. He's just living, evolving, he's becoming, he's learning. Zuck's a dog.

He's like my grandma. Zuck's got three billion people on his shit every single month. All started in a dorm room. And the, uh, the vinkelwass is the, the winklewass is. Yep. Yep. Both of them. They don't like it. They don't like it one bit. Eduardo doesn't either. Well, Eduardo should have made the trip, you know.

He should have. You're right. He's blaming everybody but himself. Shouldn't have closed the accounts. Yeah. And everybody else sacrificed. Mm hmm. You know, you're doing your thing. We get it. Justin Timberlake really smart in that. Drop the

Genius, please Napster what a run. Yeah Napster what a run that had I'm wire. All right, so giveaway Takes yeah throw football or should I put? Your guys choice. Oh, no, it's your choice We're waffling. I'll putt. You want to start with the football? You'll putt? Tony throw that pigskin. You'll putt.

Yeah, good confidence. You can do what you want to do, but I mean. You should at least throw one. I mean you got a ball. He just said it wasn't golf season. I don't know if he can play golf after that. Gumpy said, um. Your co-host said that you just said it's not golf season, so you're not going to do golf season.

Tonight it is actually. Oh it is indoor golf too, which would be this exact case. He kind of checkmated you there, Gumpy. Well I want to see some Sunday Red tomorrow then. Yeah, need to be wearing Sunday Red tomorrow, really live the gimmick is what Gumpy said. I will. This guy's going to walk in here and dress like a million bucks literally yeah shirt hat and sweats digs all you do is put that football into that hoop right over there if you're able to do that 30 people win $500 on this magical super wild

Tuesday I'll take that ball if you don't like certainly get a little fidgety boom good throw yeah it's a little flat. Obviously the air has gone a little cold. That's Patriots about that. Oh That thing was turning nicely you saw that you saw a son of a bitch turn it It was turning where if it hit the backboard that thing would have banked perfectly right into that hoop might have been a bank Swish which if it would have been we would have had 50 winners of five hundred dollars But if you just make that thing in there, 30 people, $500 tone, and you're playing like a champion today. No, no, no. Oh, you're right there.

It's a good time. Right there. That was a good toss. Attachment as Coach Lujolz actually has something to say to you. Play like a champion in Daytona. Yeah, I'm just going to simply say quit pussyfooting. Throw that fucking pigskin as hard as you can to the backboard and hopefully you hit it on one of the corners and it ricochets directly into the hoop, okay?

I'm serious son. I wanna see you throw this thing as hard as you fucking can right now and try to put it into the hoop, okay? You either go balls to the walls 100% or you can pussyfoot around and embarrass yourself by, you know, coming up short. Decision's yours.

30 people, $500. Oh yeah, yeah. I was never gonna go in coach. I almost took out the hoop. I said it's the backboard. I said simple geometry you hit the exact point right inside that upper right square. That's just the upper right quadrant. Exactly upper right quadrant you hit that exactly right at the right angle it's gonna fall right in the hoop. 30 people fine. right at the right angle is go fall right in the hoop. 30 people fall. Alright we just fucked up that ball off of the bricks. Before you finish coach Holtz we'd be remiss if we didn't run Ryan Day of the Ohio State Buckeyes was asked if he and coach Lou Holtz have buried the hatchet since the interview that Lou Holtz had with Lou Holtz. Speaking of

that I'm just curious have you and Lou Holtz ever talked since then? Either patching things up or comment between you? No. Okay thank you. Well that's a lie because when we were in Columbus he clearly spoke to Coach Lou Holt, AJ, you think coach Lou Holtz knows that Ryan Day still wants a little smoke with what he said about that team last year up there in Notre Dame? I sure hope so. After seeing Lou Holtz talk to Lou Holtz a little over on the set when we were over there, like I hope we get this thing

reignited because I know Lou Holtz is ready. Like he's going to, he's going to be there, right? He'll be there at the game. I would assume Lou Holtz is going to be here. He's probably leading the team out there. Coach Lou Holtz, ready. Like he's gonna be there, right? He'll be there at the game. I would assume Lou Holtz is gonna be here. He's probably leading the team out there. Coach Lou Holtz, what's your messaging about this Ohio State Buckeye team? They've looked tough and very good

on their road to the national championship. Yeah, they have looked tough, physical football team, but really all you gotta do is say they're not tough or physical, and Ryan Day will start pouting, and that'll just kind of trickle down to the rest of the team. It's kind of what happened last year,

if you remember correctly. I will be at the game I said basically game God willing if my leg feels better because my left leg right now is fucking killing me This is what little said he said if his leg is feeling better God willing he will be down Atlanta I'll the field at the football game, but I mean if if Ryan day wants to reignite this We can reignite this we have proof that Ryan Day and Lou Holtz have spoke since, there it is right there. Boom, boom. That is live in Columbus, Ohio,

post the Lou Holtz, Notre Dame, Ryan Day situation. So I don't know if coach Day just forgot about this in a moment or he's so jacked up. That's clearly Lou Holtz and Ryan Day talking right there. I mean, he still hates my guts. That's fine cuz I Guess what what I can find a little hate my heart to no way. That's not your thing. Well. Yeah, no I'd put this to rest. I'm a god-fearing man. Obviously. I wouldn't do something like that But hey, you're gonna bump your gums, you know to an 88 year old man

He's got a fucking bum leg who's gonna have to sit through a long flight to get down to Atlanta and his legs Probably gonna swell up a little bit and hurt a little bit when he gets to sit through a log flight to get down to Atlanta and his legs probably gonna swell up a little Bit and hurt a little bit when he gets in the game if you want to do that No, coach. Holds. Don't need any of that ever. This coach. Hoes. This is a fucking baboon. He showers He doesn't need that gimmick spray But no, you know listen if right they watch the reignite this whole thing we can reignite it. Okay, cuz I Coach Hoes hoes got a matchbook on book on him oh he's got a match book what's that a match book yeah just in case I got a little Bible verse in it you know just

whichever one I'm feeling that they got a whole bunch of match books from different restaurants and hotels I've been to around the United States kind of what about things I just like no way I, I'll grab a matchbook, you know? Why not? Why not? Thanks, coach. All right. Coach, you didn't motivate Tony to make that throw. You actually gave him the worst advice

I think I've ever heard. I don't know if that's good news for the Notre Dame fighting writers. Well, there's something to be said about, you know, being a leader, you know, yourself. You know, sometimes you're gonna get advice from somebody and you gotta say, is that the best advice I need right now Or should I maybe consider doing something else?

What do I have within me that's gonna allow me to complete this task or challenge? Not everybody knows every single time you know sometimes someone's gonna try to throw you off your game Feed you a little bullshit, and you gotta know hey I don't need to throw this football as hard as I fucking get off the backboard Maybe I put a little arc on this thing and try to bank it in like I've been doing every other time. But I appreciate that Tone, Tone's a loyal soldier. He's a loyal soldier now. He will, he will listen to what you say

and he will follow commands. I will question nothing. What's your next sage advice there for Tone as he attempts to win 30 people $500, Coach? Well, I was gonna say if Bill's still out there, I would want Tone to just rifle that thing right at Bill. Cause I think that picture of Bill taking the picture as the football is coming into the lens of his camera,

I think that'd be pretty neat. Now it might break his camera, which we don't love, but Tony, feel it, okay? Play like a fucking champion today. How about that? What does that mean, Coach? It means enough of this bull is me, wishy washy, oh, my arm hurts, I I can't do this I'm not any good at this I'd rather

putt. Nonsense son! Put it in the fucking hoop please! Play like a champion win 30 people! Hey damn close. Hey listen some guys just don't got it. You do everything you can to get them to that point some guys just don't got it and that's okay. That's okay. That is okay. Because we're still all children of God at the end of the day. God bless you coach. God bless you.

God bless you. May the Lord be with you. And also with you. Amen. Amen. Alright, be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. Like don't ever forget it, H. Don't ever forget it it I need to grab some next time I'm there well send you some thank you I use it I love that stuff hmm I don't think that's... Cedar. Cedar and sandalwood.

No. They go hand in hand. They do go hand in hand. What about vitamin E? We got vitamin E. Yeah, with vitamin E. I can smell that. I can smell the vitamin E.

It's aluminium free. There ain't no... No BS. Important. Man, that smells so much better than the shit that somebody smells like that you work with. Put the cap on, buy this thing, gift this thing. It's like, hey, you want some gum?

You ever do that one? All the time. If anybody's saying that to you, that means one thing and one thing alone that you need to know. Your mouth is fucking obnoxious right now. Everybody hates the way your mouth smells. Anybody want any of this gum? Ain't that move right there?

That's a... Figure it out! Same thing with this one. Gets dropped on the doorstep. You see me like this? That means you fucking stank, dude. Figure it out. Here to help though. You got a friend, dude. A dove.

The whole body, Dio. Don't fret. You're not the only one that smells like shit. A lot of people smell like shit. But you're gonna be the one that no longer smells like shit. And that's growth. Thank you. So much in this thing. Oh yeah. Unbelievable. Wow. Unbelievable. I was going to try a... I was going to try a little... Can't get to the bottom. Do the whole thing.

No. Pretty good spray too, you know, whenever it's... Yeah. Yep. Strong. Good stream, yeah. It is a good stream. Powerful stream.

Probably should have done it good on it. Pissed out a public restroom last night, middle of the show. Always got to bring the powerful stream in those ones. Yeah, yeah. People are documenting, thinking, listening, hearing. Mm-hmm. What's that, D-Bud? Powerful streaming those ones. Yeah, people are talking thinking listening hearing That's that D. But I didn't know those thing you think about that that's somebody's story they're telling piss next to McAfee last night We

Dream one out dribbling out like an old man. Like what if someone did don't need that one being said about me? Okay Always try to get a nice spa in a bowl. Boy, then we're heading to the side. We're heading to the side. We're heading to the side of the toilet. All right, let's get out of here. It was a good day today. Good day.

Tone, I'm happy. That one felt really good coming out. I was gonna do that one for you. But you know what? That would've embarrassed me. I was gonna do that one for you, but you know what that would embarrass me I Was gonna do it for you was in it was an ode to you it was an ode to you She's looking good. Yeah, I think the tops on yeah What shot

Was I was throwing an American football? Yeah, it's an international show. Yeah I'll continue to be one more we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living You guys are the greatest people on earth be a friend tell a friend something nice and might change their life like our friends at dude wipes and dove And ram trucks and door dash and Pizza Hut. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa Got a lot of good people running. Oh, yeah, Including you guys. Thank you all so much. Let's have a good one tomorrow. We'll see you then.

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