The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1278 - Michael Lombardi, Aaron Rodgers, Dan Orlovsky, Coach Chuck Pagano, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Chuck Pagano, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the National Championship between Ohio State and Notre Dame and wonder why no one is talking about Ohio State Quarterback Will Howard as an NFL prospect. Chuck also goes through the entire divisional round slate and makes his picks against the spread, several of which might surprise you. Joining the progrum to dispel some of the rumors floating around about the North Carolina football team, and chat about some of the coaching openings in the NFL is General Manager of the North Carolina Football team, Michael Lombardi. Next, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, and Quarterback of the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the fires in California and how he’s been handling it, what his situation with the Jets is going into next year and if he’s heard anything from the exit meetings, or has any idea on who the new Head Coach/GM will be, and much more. Later, 12 year NFL veteran at QB, and ESPN NFL analyst and co-host of NFL Live, Dan Orlovsky joins the show to give an update on his potential coaching situation, and an update on how his son’s basketball team did last night. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this Aaron Rogers Thursday January 16th 2025 this program starts now! Football! It's wonderful we'll be talking to Aaron in the second hour we'll be talking to the general manager of the North Carolina Tar Heel football team Michael Lombardi who's been a topic of conversation in football obviously because he's been refuting basically every single narrative that Bill Belichick is trying to get back to the NFL even though he's currently the head coach of the North Carolina Tar Heels where Lambeau is the general manager. I think the reason why Lambeau is so aggressively open against it is because

there's probably a lot of college teams that are utilizing Bill Belichick's going to the NFL, Bill Belichick's going to the NFL as Bill Belichick's going to the NFL, as a recruiting advantage against North Carolina. So as they're trying to build their team through the transfer portal and put everything together down there in North Carolina, all anybody's seeing reports all over the place is that Bill Belichick's trying to get to the NFL, Bill Belichick's trying to get to the NFL.

That'll certainly be used against North Carolina whenever you're recruiting somebody, and all you need is a good class. You get a good class, you can flip an entire program, which is exactly what Bill and Lambeau are trying to do down there in North Carolina. I think it's logical for people to expect Bill Belichick to be like, okay, I'm done with the college thing. I went to a couple high schools. I did some negotiating with 17 year olds.

I've been talking to 50 different agents and managers and now the college world what it is. I could be done with that and go back to the NFL, especially with the job openings and what people are looking for this coaching cycle, seemingly versus other coaching cycles of the past. So it's all very believable, these reports that are being thrown out there. We'll ask Lambeau his thoughts on it

in about 20 minutes or so. I cannot wait to chat with him. I love conversating with Lambeau. I had no idea until yesterday that he started some shit at NFL films whenever he was on our show. That is Lambeau football. He is wide open. He has been great as a podcast host, as an author,

as a live show host, as a daily newsletter writer, because he has a lot of thoughts, a lot of opinions, a lot of knowledge, and also a lot of experience in football, more so than anybody that's talking shit about him on a regular basis. So I can't wait to hear what he has to say in about 20 minutes and then Aaron Rodgers Obviously Southern California native everything that's going on with the fire. I believe he had to evacuate We'll catch up with that with him. And then also What's he doing? Yeah

What's he doing? No What are his thoughts next year? There's a lot of conversations because remember he's open to anything attached to nothing I believe is the exact quote and there's a lot of ifs that have been put into place for him to have to answer questions if he wants to come back to play if the New York Jets want him back if that is gonna be the case then maybe he plays for the New York Jets next year if he wants to come back to play if the Jets don't want him back then all of a sudden he's part of the QB market where there's gonna be seven different spots allegedly that are gonna be looking for a quarterback.

And then there's only a few college guys that they're saying are NFL ready or NFL caliber quarterbacks coming through the draft. And then you've got a lot of maybe that second, third chapter free agent quarterback, just like we saw there, you know, the resurgence of the renaissance man Baker Mayfield down there and then Sam Donald who we thought okay 45 50 million dollars a year maybe with his second coming over there in Minnesota he'll be a free agent Russell Wilson will be back on the market Kirk Cousins potentially will be back on the market although all signs are leading to that being the case and then if you look at Drew Locke Daniel Jones Jimmy G I mean that's all these are all the names are gonna be out there seven jobs potentially

open maybe more maybe less we shall see and then you look at the college guys everybody's talking about Chedurre Jalen Milro Quinn yours cam ward nobody's talking about Will Howard. Nope except for us And I didn't talk about Will Howard all year. I Didn't talk about Will Howard last year when he was the big 12th player of the year at Kansas State It went to overtime against his Texas team as a Kansas State Wildcat and what he has done and with these eyes With these eyes what I've seen him do how he is led How he was perfect and he hasn't even ran that much this year in his Chip Kelly offense because they don't need it because all

The weapons they have on the outside Kansas State. He was running all over the place 6-3-2-40 6-3-2 boy 240 and he obviously has weapons or is it that's a bucket I mean he just dropped the rate in to a bucket he's able to read defenses make direct that's a ball that's an NFL throw right there and also something we got to see that not everybody else gets to see I saw this guy coming out of the tunnel we're talking about a little bit of, you know, we're talking a little. He's got some guts. Had a shy Steve on wherever he's playing against Tennessee.

Obviously no sleeves. It's like, I like this guy. I like them a lot. One half of the hammer, dad, Cowboys, AP tone. You said you did a mock draft. You picked them up in the fourth round. They're talking about this quarterback draft class not being great and then they're not mentioning this guy's name. Doesn't make sense to me but you did your mock draft, got him in the fourth round. I think

Mel Kuyper's projected him to be in the fourth round. I am baffled by that, especially with what he's been doing on the biggest stages that you can get in college ball, in the history of college ball, throughout these 12--team playoffs. Yeah personally I drafted him today in the fourth round for the Pittsburgh Steelers on PFF's mock draft. I thought it was the Steel too but it turns out judging by the replies he's a very very polarizing figure on the internet it was either hey that's great pick or this guy's the worst human being of all time I don't know why Will Howard so polarizing maybe just because he plays for Ohio State I think he's a great pick or this guy's the worst human being of all time. I don't know why Will Howard's so polarizing, maybe just because he plays for Ohio State. I think he's a good quarterback.

I think he's, the potential to be a great quarterback based off of arm strength, size, height, all those intangibles that you talk about. And he's a leader, like we've talked about it. When he got the concussion, not concussion against Michigan, and was just sprinting up and down the sideline. This guy's got a bit of a pizzazz to him as well. Yeah, and the concussion against Michigan potentially why, I mean, you talk about their season and what is the downfall?

Well, obviously he has that situation against Oregon. Okay, so hold that against him. Then they lose to Michigan. Okay, hold that against him. How do you respond in the biggest moment? Oh, you choke, you choke against Oregon. He choked, the guy couldn't execute in the highest pressure has he now in these different situations? I think will Howard deserves a lot more respect

Let's go to the talk table at boss of Connor and that tie Schmidt great to see you boys You boys have seen him live in it This is just like you see Drake may yeah, you see Drake may and it's like wow that baby face You don't think especially with how he moves You don't think how big he is then we run into him in a hotel during college game day whenever we had North Carolina game And I'm looking like this at this guy. I'm like that. I did not know I don't know It was built. Yeah like this and then Will Howard same exact. I mean you're looking up at Will Howard. He's a massive strapping lad It's it's a wild time, but he's got his team in the national championship

Riley Leonard hasn't been talked about as a guy and I think it's strictly because of his arm and how he throws and everything like that. He's not the only quarterback in the history of college that hasn't had the greatest arm coming out. It's just like feels like a couple guys haven't been talked about. Feels like the draft class as a whole has been talked about as being shite, which I don't think is fair because who knows who's gonna be good, who knows who's gonna be terrible. I mean there's top five picks at quarterback position who stink and then there's guys 199.'s like, how do you know who's good?

Well the way they throw it. It's like the only thing that matters in here, brother This is the only thing that matters at that position have to be able to make throws. Mm-hmm have to be able to do it But how's the work ethic? How's the leadership? How's the football love and then how can you dissect defenses? And how can you show up in the biggest moments? I think Riley Leonard and Will Howard at this point have showed up in the biggest of moments thus far obviously another opportunity on Monday night in the national championship yeah and they can both move which is awesome I feel like you have to have that going into the NFL now

especially at the quarterback position but when you talk about the biggest moments like also some of the biggest teams like Tennessee the big takeaway when we watch them all year was like their defense flies around. They play hard and they hit. Yeah and they dominated Tennessee and granted at home in the cold whatever. I mean that's a strike right there. Absolute seed and there's some of those all over the place and look who he's playing against Oregon. Okay the best team all season one of the best offenses and defenses that they probably won against all year. He's leading that team against the best offense and

defense, so I assume he has a say in getting the team ready as far as pregame, getting the boys hyped up. And then of course the last game. Texas was one of the bigger best teams that we all saw. Very expensive, a lot of pros. A lot of pros on that team, a lot of money gone into that team. You know, you talk about, you know, the teams that benefited from everyone talking about Ohio state spending 20 million, Texas was one of those teams because they probably spent upwards, if not more than 20 million to get the guys to retain everybody that's left to spend at least 20 million. Exactly. And that was probably goes back one round and I think we just didn't know that everybody was, was going to be gonna be able to do that. Not everybody is able to do that. The teams

that are though certainly gonna have quite an advantage. You're seeing them around right now. April 8th ruling we'll see how that goes. Joining us here is a man who's an absolute legend. Not only on these parts but the entire football landscape. For sure. 36 years in football, 18 in college, 18 in the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, coach Pagani You just heard us break down well Howard I think you've been watching the games alongside of us for these college football playoffs and then you're watching those highlights I see you say that that looks like that looks like why do you think he's not being chatted about him?

What do you think it takes for a college quarterback to be great in the NFL? Well when you were talking about him this morning, I went and pulled up on my iPad You said hey check him out. So I went and pulled up on my iPad. He said, hey, check him out. So I went and watched that Oregon game. Did he miss a pass? What was his completion percentage? Nah, he was great. High.

I mean, because all those throws are spot on. They're all runners balls. They're not behind. It was okay. It was okay. It's four degrees out here. More snow than we could have found in here. It's not as fine in the Sarajevo.

It looks like the frozen, or Green Bay, whatever. Or Minnesota, any of the cold-ass towns. Indianapolis is not normally a snow place, because it's so windy. You know, so normally it's the trop snow, it's thin snow, you know, it's snowball snow. Yeah, it's only quick in, quick out. You normally are able to see just grass. It's normally frozen, but you don't normally see. Snow's been sticking around this year, and cold as shit. So I hope you're able to battle through today

with your voice. No, we're good, we're good. So this looks like another Big Ben, right? So if there's, there's still gonna be a handful of offensive systems like golf in Detroit right now with Ben Johnson, right? That won a pocket pass or won a big tall, like is this guy, you stood next to him, because he looked like Andrew, like big, strong, physical.

So he's got all the metrics, it looks like he can process and he can read a defense because he knows where to go with the ball. He throws a pretty ball, he's a good enough athlete to get out of trouble. Watch this, watch this. Watch him celebrate with the boys. Ah. Uh-huh. Ah.

Uh-huh. Ah. And to me, that's the biggest thing. So we've made a ton of mistakes on quarterbacks over the year, everybody, right? But the one thing you don't want to make a mistake on is the football IQ, the football character. So who's the guy that steps in the huddle where like

all of his teammates, like you can tell you can go to a game, you can go to a practice and you can just watch the body language and you can watch his teammates around him, how they respond to him. Isn't it like, is he a guy? He's got it. Is he a guy? So everybody says it. So you go to those practices, you go to those games and you can see it, like the way his teammates respond and the way they rally around him and how he you know

celebrates with his teammate. Like you can see a guy like guys like they score touch on like nobody's around him or he goes by him like that guy said nobody wants to his party. Nobody wants nobody. Wow. So it looks like he has it. Yeah I think so and from getting I mean as he was doing that celebration he literally just was staring through my soul because I do believe I picked against them in that particular game Yeah, so basically he was looking over at us though And it's like he has a handshake with all his teammates all of them He's brand new and he's played so much football

He has played five years now of football at a very I mean, it's a lot of plays So people talk about like why was Bo Nicks able to succeed so much as like he played a lot of football 60 starts a lot of football accurate to he was able to complete a lot of bags She just talked about that CJ Stroud Why was CJ Stroud played a lot of football Jayden Daniels a lot of football like this dude has played a lot of college ball I'm not saying that's gonna be an abnormal Thing going forward because I think a lot more people are sticking around, because NIL money is more than rookie year money, even though second year money, third year money, fourth year money, second contract money are in a stratosphere that no

NIL will ever be able to get to. So you're kind of delaying your path to that. But you're certainly getting paid a lot more money than you probably would your rookie season as a salary. So I think it's going to keep guys in playing more football but it's like I think this guy's special right here I I think this dude is a guy I think he's a guy and the fact that I think the draft process because they're put him in the fourth round I think he's gonna have to go through the combine he's gonna have to

grind it out mm-hmm like he's gonna have to do very well that's a big day for him I think his pro day is gonna have to be a big day I think his interviews are gonna have to go very well You know some quarterbacks at this stage, especially with the amount of success that he has had certainly what his team is having now Even though riley lennard on the other side is like I play law football too. Yeah, what do we i'm I'm elite my guys love me duke what happened to duke and noter day It's like they're thinking the same exact thing I think this year this draft process we're gonna have to see these guys prove themselves and it's first time we've seen that in a long time at the quarterback position tie Well, we'll see

I mean like everything obviously changes if he goes to the combine and runs like a 4-7 or like a 4-6-5 You know, then I feel like that's one of those things where it's like, okay Maybe he's much more athletic than than we thought he is but I'll just think cuz the Chip Kelly offense He hasn't been moving much. I think they say big mayonnaise Exactly guys moving exactly and the speed and we've talked about it a little bit Like he definitely gets dinged for being at Ohio State and for them having as much talent as they had but like Look at when he was at Kansas State like he there's a couple guys that went to the NFL But he wasn't playing with you know

The type of roster he is now. And you still have to like, oh, it's not like, I mean, granted, Ohio State brought him in and he was going to be the starter, but you still have to earn that. And when you're playing around a bunch of other five stars for him to be like the de facto, like we've seen him doing these games, like the way he is on the sideline, his energy, and it's not just with the offense, it's with the defense. We saw the way he was, you know, getting in Jack Sawyer's face and pumping him up after the scoop and score for the touchdown. I think that's also very impressive and that's something that gets

discounted a little bit. It is his first year at Ohio State. And there's no guarantee that he would come in and just immediately get his teammates' respect and love and admiration. Especially when they had the kind of season that they did where, you know, the sky was falling after Michigan. They lose to the like, you know, they lose the Oregon game, like him kind of being level headed and keeping it and saying, Hey, everything's still out out in front of us. That's massive.

And then for him to come out and play his best football of the season, like I think no matter what, I think he is a lot better. We personally, after seeing him live in person the last several weeks, think no matter what, I think he is a lot better. We personally, after seeing him live in person the last several weeks, it's like what's going on here. But I think no matter what, he's made himself a lot of money in this playoff. I think and well deserved and to your point about the sky falling, after that Michigan loss, his teammates all paid a lot of money. All five stars. Thinking man we wasted this year with this guy this guy. You could turn on him.

But instead they didn't. And obviously could have turned on Ryan Day. They didn't. They kind of stuck together and rallied whenever the outside certainly lost a lot of hope in what was possible for them. I love this dude. And Riley too. After that Northern Illinois game,

he obviously wrote about it in the players' tribune. About having to get a cop to take him home and where he was. He went late in the indoor facility because of how depressed he depressed he was felt like he let down Notre Dame and how they've responded and followed behind him. I like the fact that these two quarterbacks in the position that they're in that they're going to have to go prove it not only on Monday night but going into the NFL. I think you have something about the draft process. Yeah like those two you talked about proving it. Those two are both going to the senior bowl so that we'll both we'll see both of them there at the senior bowl. We're also going to see gonna see Jackson Dart Dylan Gabriel and Jalen Milro all at the senior bowl

So it's like one of those years where these guys do have to go out and prove them prove themselves So we're not gonna see these guys sitting out not throwing at things We're gonna see them a lot over the next few months before the draft which will kind of inevitably help them like they're not gonna Go to a terrible situation. I have these actually potentially. Yeah, like there's a chance this draft process, and I'm picking Will Howard, but let's say it's somebody else, somebody in the interviews. Yeah, sure. There's going to be some coach that's like, hey, are we going to let somebody else feel the same way we feel about this person?

And at the quarterback position, that's when you see movement to potentially get drafted. But to your point, if it stays how it stays right now, it's like you potentially get drafted second, third round to a good team. Yeah, 20 even end of the first round. Like if we're talking about the Steelers as a team looking for a quarterback, like that'd be a great situation to go to. And you can say whatever you want about the Steelers, but like they have a great defense and that would be a good football town to end up in no matter what you want to say about the Steelers tone. But still any of those teams that might be QB needy

You know and I wouldn't throw the Jets in there just because of all the things that have happened with the Jets and kind of what? It's surrounding and we don't know what's happening there And we don't know what's happening with Aaron yet But like you talk about a team with you know good defense a great running back a great wide receiver like there are situations out there where if you're a quarterback like one of these guys who isn't Like there are situations out there where if you're a quarterback like one of these guys who isn't regarded as one of the top five picks, top 10 picks in the draft that you could end up in a great situation and set up to succeed in the NFL. You've been a part of the draft process a lot more than I have on the inside.

Is there a chance somebody like really impresses and they move up, especially at the quarterback position? That's the most important position in the NFL. A team will certainly use a first rounder on a quarterback that they hope and think will be something special. How much movement can happen during that draft process for a guy like Will or Riley or any of these guys that aren't Jalen Melrow even? Yeah. Who are, what is the draft process like and how much can people move? I think there are a bunch happen, after you know you go through you know

All-Star games you go through the combine and then you start you know the interview process and then you have 30 30s so I think once these guys figure out who these guys are so I don't know what the knock is on on Will Howard I don't know why he's sitting there as a as a potential fourth rounder if there's something off the field. Tone you mentioned... He's got that baby face. He looks too young. He's going to get carted if he buys beers for the boys. We've had some young looking people come into these programs and do okay just because of that. But yeah, there's...

I mean, because it only takes one, right? Beauty's in the eye of the beholder. So it only takes one. So yes, things can change. Kid can come in, he can just totally knock the socks off of everybody in your organization, even on a top 30. Like, okay, wow, this guy. And then as soon as they get the breakdown and listen to him dissect the film, I'm sure like Sean Payton, when he went and did Bo, and he knew

beyond a shadow of a doubt, okay, this is the next human that I want to work with. He's got like, because of this, and you hear about how complex that offense is and just the play calling. And that Bo doesn't even have a, doesn't do a wrist, he memorizes every, like Andrew- And he's 35 years old. Yeah. Andrew did that. Yeah. And these play calls go from this wall to that wall.

Yeah. And there's like 10,000 on a play sheet. You see these play sheets, right? Yeah. I have no idea how they do just that. I'm on the defensive side of the ball the entire time. I don't know how these playbacks do it. But that, okay, now identify the defense too. Who's the Mike? What's the protection gonna be? Oh, I have motion too. Okay, bring this guy over and then bring this one and then snap the ball Remember the snap count. Oh, yeah, what's it on? So I just called this. What are we on? Okay, we're on 2k

Good cool And then and then snap the ball and then and then all the guys are doing all this and then figure out Okay, it was covered to that they were I told the story of Andrew Luck showing up first day delayed spring because he had to graduate to be a engineer something like architect Yeah architectural engineer. Yeah both. An engineer and an architect. There were several degrees I think. Yeah there were all of them happening so like Stanford real schools so they weren't like no you can't do this like just wrap this up and then you can go to OTAs. So he was late to OTAs

it was like a week and a half. Just a lot. Yeah it was like a week and a half two weeks of OTAs which is a lot of on OTAs. It was like a week and a half. Just a lot. Yeah, it was like a week and a half, two weeks of OTAs, which was a lot of on-field stuff. But his first day there, he made a check that was at the end of the playbook and nobody else had it. Like the offensive line had no fucking idea what he was talking about. Wide receivers had no idea what he was talking about. And this is like his first day in the building. So he's like, check, check, check, goes to something. Everybody like looks at him. What is that? And then Bruce Arians has to motherfucker him and say, we don't know, we're not there yet, you son of a bitch. Like the whole, the whole thing is that? And then Bruce Arians has to motherfuck him and say, we don't know. We're not there yet. You

son of a bit like the whole, the whole thing like that. And that was like his introduction to the team. And I think that was when we're all like, Oh, okay. Like this is the, this is the chosen one. Yeah. This is 100 level for everybody but him. He was already on 500. And what? Looking up at him.

Big son of a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Avatar. And that's what kind of happened last year with Atlanta. Like you could throw a Pettix in there granted pen Pettix was considered a first-round pick But like no one I think he was plus two thousand to go to Atlanta at eight or nine wherever he went and like That's a team who fell in love with the guy like they paid Kurt Cousins a hundred million guarantee But they're like hey, we love this kid So why would we pass on a quarterback that we love when we know like

Kirk Cousins isn't a 10-year, 12-year option? And nobody outside the building either knows the mentalist knew it was possible. To kind of put a wrap on this particular conversation before we bring in the general manager of the North Carolina Tar Heels football team, here's Will Howard talking about nobody talking about him. You know, I try not to, but it does seep in a little bit. You know, obviously, you know, people say people say things and you know it feels like I just keep getting you know nobody really wants to give me a you know give me any any

credit but you know I love that you know keep it keep it coming man I as much motivation as I can get I'm gonna take and you know I love I love people challenging me and you know challenging this team because it keeps that chip on our shoulder and keeps that edge. And when we play like that, when we play like, you know, a little pissed off and, you know, have a little chip on our shoulder, I think that's good for us.

Okay, so that's Will Howard chit-chatting about loving it and listening to it and hearing it. Everybody hears everything these days. We have found that out. Yeah. We have found that out. Hard not to. Certainly. Yeah, whenever we run into somebody that we just so happened to potentially

crack a joke about. Vice versa. Yeah, and also, yeah, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has heard at NFL Films. He's heard around the league. He's heard on the internet. He's heard on live air. He's read in books and heard in Ted Talks.

And now he's general manager of a college football team down there in beautiful North Carolina for the Tar Heels. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Yeah. What's up guys, how we doing today? Eyes on, how you doing down there in North Carolina? Still doing college football, huh? We are doing good.

We're out recruiting. Everybody's on the road. Coach Belichick is on the road. He's in DC today. In spite of all the stories trying to say that he's not working and here and Contract all that coach is on the road recruiting. He's in Baltimore. He's in actually DC today I'll be in Baltimore tomorrow and we're trying to get some players to become Tar Heels. We're excited Okay, so let's talk about all of this because there's so many different players to this

Other teams that are recruiting the same guys that you guys are recruiting are definitely using these reports against you guys I assume in recruiting which is why you have been so loud and adamant about the fact that you guys are committed to the North Carolina football team. Is that an accurate assessment on the situation? Yeah I mean I'm loud because I think so many of them especially the one that keeps going on is being generated by someone who doesn't like our program, doesn't like me or like Coach Belichick and refuses to allow it to go. Parcells used to say to me all the time, quick kick in the horse, he's already dead. Well, they keep quick kicking something that doesn't exist.

And so it's click for their website, which is wonderful. And then they take shots at us as individuals. But look, somebody has to stand up for our program, right? And somebody has to be able to put their voice into the program. Everyone says, well, why isn't Bill speaking out? Bill doesn't speak out. That's what I'm supposed to do as the general manager here is to let people know what's going on with our program. He's not going anywhere. You know, contracts are very complicated. And I think if you understand the North Carolina system,

it is a state institution. It takes a while to get things done. There's a lot of hurdles to go through, but we're all getting paid. I haven't signed my contract yet, Pat. I mean, so this is just a complete story that people wanna run with. I've said this many times.

I was with Bill every day in the office during the fall. We talked about every single NFL job that could open up and every time I would bring one up with hopes that he would be interested, he shot it down. He's where he wants to be and I know it's hard to get it through some of these thick people's heads that he wants to be somewhere else. Like this is where he wants to be. And I am not just a spokesman, but I'm telling you exactly how it is.

Well, I think it's a believable narrative, especially as what you hear from all the older coaches in college ball about how miserable it is having to do college football. But what Bill was pitching to us was basically like, hey, it's pro football now. This is actually in our wheelhouse more so than it's ever been probably, right? Yeah, I don't have an owner that's gonna come down here

and tell me what to do. I don't have an owner's son who's gonna tell me we need to look at pro football focus more often. I don't have any of that, right? I don't have that. I can watch tape, I can look at players, we can recruit. I mean, it's really the perfect, and he can build this program and he can

impact young men more the future and for today and if you want to be a pro player and you want to understand what a pro organization looks like here we are. All this nonsense while they haven't hired any coaches and the ACC is nervous. Oh they're nervous all right. I hired a whole personnel department over here they're wine and tape. We built a whole pro organization with a pro grading system and they're all over there grinding tape and then we've hired coaches as we go along. I don't understand how people can keep generating a story that has no story to it. Okay so you've agreed to terms right you've agreed to terms on a contract you and Bill both, with North Carolina.

That has to get approved by a lot of different parties, so we kind of got that figured out. College ball isn't more miserable for you guys. You actually see it the opposite way, because you don't have to deal with a looming billionaire who has different ideas. Recruiting, he's on the road right now, doesn't hate it at all, actually likes it? No, loves it. I mean, he really enjoys it, and the reception's been wonderful you know it's been really good he goes out there he meets all the kids and then we've been able to put some office

we haven't been we've kind of got we came in here behind you know we need to build a draft board or a high school board we need to build a portal board and we're trying to do it on a line item basis which is difficult but we will find smart tough dependable kids that want to be a part of a pro program there's plenty of them out there. Okay so that jot that one off we're checking a lot of these boxes here that would make sense on why Bill would want to go. You haven't got a complete coaching staff yet but you have an entire pro personnel group which I think is very new for college ball so what you're saying is

instead of reporting that we've actually pieced together the most important part of modern ball you keep reporting about the coaching staffs. We'll get to that is kind of the thought right there's a process here and what we need to do a timeline on it all? Yeah well first of all people don't understand the NFL rules right so after two weeks when the coaches are not in the playoffs you can actually go talk to them if they're free agents. So we wanted to wait and see how many coaches who are gonna become, who are working in the NFL, who wanna be here.

And our phones have a lot of contacts on that. And then also we wanted to see what some of the college coaches who were available. We thought building a staff was probably the last thing we needed to do. We need to improve the talent pool here at North Carolina. That was really important to us. And so we needed to build a system of operation within this department. We needed processes and systems put in place so that we're just not randomly

offering players. And we had to hire certain people to get that. Then we had to hire a strength coach, right? So we hired the New England, former New England strength coach Moses who's down here, and then he had to hire a staff and now his entire staff is in place. And so now we can start our off-season program. Hiring the receiver coach, hiring the O-line coach, we were going to wait until the time was right, until we got everybody in the building so that all the staffs could work together, interview those people at one time. We're not just throwing this out there. This is well thought out. I mean the guys won six

Super Bowls he's put together a staff before. Okay so on all those notes there I think in college ball the position coaches can't even really coach yet. Anyways the weight room is the most important part because that is the off season program in there. You're gonna have to get a staff before obviously the football aspect of it all comes back into the college calendar. On that note, Coach Pagano has a couple questions. Hey Lamba, I'm sure a lot of the pushback,

you know, the narratives, the talk about Bill, you know, the contract and going back to the National Football League, until you do get a bunch of coaches hired, I'm sure you're having to go into these high schools and these homes, you're talking to these recruits and they're asking you okay we know the defensive coordinator is gonna be right it's gonna be Steve who's the D line

coach who is the O line coach who's the receiver coach you guys know you have a good idea I see you guys brought in Mike Prefer now what a get what a get that I mean you've got 20 plus years of experience at the National Football League right coaching at the day Football League, right, coaching at the NA. I love Coach Prefer. I thought he was unbelievable when he was coaching special teams. So you've got a good one there.

Talk to us a little bit about that one. And then just how you're defending, you know, Bill and the rest of your, you know, process about hiring guys and why you're taking so long and how you're, you know, keeping these coaches and these high school, you know, keep them on the hook so people aren't killing you and recruiting with that. Yeah, I mean, Coach Prefer, you know, a Naval Academy graduate would put them at the top

of the list for Coach Belichick, so that's important. And you know, all the NFL experience, plus for your special teams coach, you want somebody that understands player personnel. Cause it's, as you guys all know, it's a matchup game. You know, you want to make sure you have the right guys in the kicking game And I think good coach here would be is outstanding But I don't think people truly understand about coach Belichick and the system that he's put in place

It's a head coach driven system So everything that we do here starts and ends with the head coach's office that doesn't mean nobody has a voice We all have a voice we all have the ability to share our information, but everything is being channeled through him. We're not an independent contractor organization. The wide receiver coach isn't gonna just arbitrarily pick all the players he wants and not tell anybody. Or the D-line coach.

This is gonna be a process like the NFL. We're gonna build a board, and ultimately, Coach Belichick and myself, we're going to grade all the players who we offer scholarships to, and then we're going to go out and recruit them. So we're a different model than a lot of teams where the head coach is somewhat of an overseer. No, our head coach runs the entire program. And I think we have to explain that to kids. We have to explain that, yes, that you're going gonna have a relationship with your receiver coach or your running back coach.

But the reality of it is, if that coach leaves, we're not changing our systems, we're not changing our protocols, we're not changing our process. We're gonna get someone who's gonna come in and fulfill the requirements of that job because the head coach is still here. That's the part we have to drive home.

I think that's unique in college football. Watching film, you feel like you guys got a great advantage. I mean, I assume Bill hasn't even gotten into, he said, I think I was just watching as a fan, the playoffs or something like that. He hasn't dove into the film yet. And obviously Bill has had to do a lot of for the draft process, watching film

and everything like that. Do you guys have your strategy pretty much figured out on what you're looking for, how you want to build a team to make it successful down there? It's the same as the Pro. I mean we want the same thing. Obviously we're dealing with younger players. We've got to do a better job of projecting. There's a tight end that we're recruiting in Western North Carolina who plays tight end. He looks like he could be a dynamic center. So you know we have to project players

into different positions because these are still young men. They're not grown up. It's not as easy as throw the Tennessee tape on and watch the right tackle and see if he's going to play right tackle in the NFL. You've got to do some projections of this and look at the player and say, where is he going to be in two years? Especially at the high school quarterback level, there's so much shotgun. Where is the guy's rhythm? How's he throwing the football?

So everything we're doing, we scout inside out, not outside in. We're going to find players that fit the systems that are generated from Coach Belichick that we want to run here at North Carolina. And that's why we're going to continue this program in a sustainable fashion. So we know what we're looking for at each position, whether it's the center, whether it's the right tackle, left tackle, they all have a job description that we want and traits that we're looking for in those positions. How's it been going talking to these players that you're looking to fit into the positions that you need? Hey, we need this type of guy here, we need this type of guy here. Then you obviously

find the film, your pro-personnel department, we need to find this type of guy, who are they? Then you go and recruit them. I assume there's a lot of, you said positive reception reception I assume just like NFL guys feel good whenever bill comes into a press conference and compliments them I feel like it's probably a pretty good feeling for these dudes and their families whenever you guys walk in and say hey We think you would be a guy that would fit in well in our program and then you sell them on a program How has the reception been how much of it is money based to are you guys still having to? Obviously battle with that entire aspect of where college ball is right now? Yeah I mean like I tell every kid that comes up to my office and looking for an NIL deal look don't be shy come in here this is professional football you know if you're gonna do the contract yourself. Oh wait wait wait

I don't want to stop you right there are you helping them with business too? I think that's something that needs to happen. I think there's something that needs to happen. What I'm trying to have them for is stand up for themselves I'm not saying I'm gonna tell them yes they want, but they're going to have to have enough guts to walk in the room and say this is what I'm looking for. That's part of growing up. That's part of being a professional. We are a professional business and the relationship that they and they and I have has to be based purely on honesty. I can't lie to any of these kids. They may not hear what I want to hear, tell them what they want to hear, but I'm going to tell them the truth based on what I see. And so that's part of this whole thing. I really believe that that's the kind of culture we're in and that's what makes it a lot easier. And these young kids, they're impressionable. They see pro football, all that. What makes it so unique for us to explain our system is we can take bills done this

many times. Take a young kid who wants to play slot receiver for example. Alright, well we'll just throw on some New England tape. You want to be a slot receiver? Here's the offense we run. Watch Troy Brown, watch Danny Amidola, watch Julian Edelman. You know, watch all these slot receivers. Watch Wes Welker.

We've had all these slot receivers. This is you playing. You want to be an outside receiver? We have an outside receiver from Penn State coming in on Friday. You want to be an outside? Here's the routes, Randy Moss ran. Here's what this looks like playing in this offense. The on branch played here. So it's a lot easier to explain to the players, you know, and it's, Hey, look, Mike, Brabels, the new head coach to the Patriots. We sign an outside linebacker with size. We'll put on the Patri patriot tape and show them what Vrabel does. Wes Walker just got a job opening as well you know and Vrabel depending upon who he decides

or ends up making his offensive coordinator you know a lot of those plays were being made by a guy named Josh McDaniels that offensive coordinator he's available allegedly right now now how that ends I don't want to get into your guys's business but it feels like you guys are gonna be able to figure some things out Hopefully you're able to have success early because if you have success early then it's a much easier sell Going forward then you almost get in the point where you know I think every program is trying to get like this especially in this world a little bit of a hometown discount You know about what what the future looks like if you're not getting that you're not gonna succeed Kirby's smart able to get that down

They're paying players, but Kirby's smart able to get a hometown discount because they know you go to Georgia There's a good chance you're gonna win and there's a good chance you're gonna make 10-f. Oh Nick Saban was able to get that type Of you know kind of respect from people. Hey, even though I'm not gonna have a starting role here I'm gonna be a third stringer I know that if I put in the work, I'm gonna be able to become a pro So I'm gonna make this decision as opposed to it it's like once you get the reputation I know Bill Belichick already has that for being a successful genius and you multiple-time Super Bowl winner as well have that thing but if you can

win quick all these jobs get a lot easier like Marcus Freeman yeah being able to win quick gets much easier if it's if it's like a hey we need four or five years to win nobody's sticking with you I mean it is just it's yeah if it's like a hey we need four or five years to win nobody's sticking with you i mean it is just that's just how it is it's crazy time in college ball i can't wait to watch you guys operate i hope you do lend some advice business-wise to these guys though because we're in an entrepreneurial generation everybody can make their own money in their phone in their pocket you know one way or another i think you got a lot more hustlers I as somebody who is utilized you as a sounding board for hundred million dollar plus deals multiple occasions I think you'd be remiss if you didn't

utilize that as a weapon too for this generation like hey we're gonna do what we used to do in New England starting May 15th was we had the offseason program where all these young kids, they come from college and we take them through an entire program. First thing you want to do, if you get drafted in the NFL, first thing you want to do, lose your cell phone. Lose your cell phone because all of a sudden you got friends you never thought you had. So get a new cell phone number. So we're going to teach everybody the same program that we ran in New England on player development. That's going to be an ongoing occurrence here. And we're gonna teach everybody the same program that we ran in New England on player development. That's gonna be an ongoing occurrence here.

And we're also gonna tap into, we've got an incredible leadership school here. Jim Coleman Leadership Center that we started, that Jim Coleman started in honor of his father. It's a tremendous part of the University of North Carolina system. And that's something that's near and dear to my heart. And we're gonna teach, we teach leadership once a week

to all the freshmen here on the campus. Kevin Donnelly, a former player for the Houston Oilers. He's part of our staff. He does that as well. So it's really about enhancing you on a professional level because we have to teach these kids that they're no longer amateurs, they're professionals. And it's all about how do you get there?

Yeah, but I'm yeah I think you should be talking to these people and that's a mass that's I mean I didn't pay you any money you know I guess it's kind of fucked up for me not doing that but like there's only two people I'm calling before I'm going in and negotiate or final negotiations and it's you and Nick Khan and I think Nick Khan is a good one yeah exactly and so are you I mean these are the people that I get to call I'm very lucky that I'm able to do that

But like there's been a couple things where you've told me and how I should frame it in my mind Looking at it that has been like a missing piece going into a presentation and then just Obviously the boys and I have benefited from it So it's like I think this generation is good with learning about that shit. Like I think they need to yeah I think but I think they're cool with learning about that shit. Like I think- They need to. Yeah, but I think they're cool with learning about it, but I think there's a chance that if like, they would be susceptible to people that don't know what they're talking about,

talking about this particular world as well. You know, like I think anytime there's a massive amount of success to be had, there's always gonna be leeches, you know? And there's a lot of leeches that have come into this NIL agency world, business world, and I know that you have to negotiate directly against these people So it's kind of a tough spot for you to be in but as you're negotiating with these guys I hope you are at least informing them on why you're saying this and how a better way of going about it

Maybe in the future would be or something like that Like I hope there is that because I think you're a talent in that world in that aspect and you've been doing it a very long Time well, thank you I think it's really important for me to convince the kids they got to stand up for themselves and they got to speak for themselves but also I think it's really important that they understand that nobody is paying in any world whether it's in the professional world or in college for speculation. Everybody's paying for performance. Past performance predicts future achievement and so if you have an ability to play well as a freshman, you're gonna gradually work your way up the salary structure

within a college framework. But if you haven't done anything, don't come knocking on my door looking for money because there's no performance. It's all based on performance and you gotta do it. You're in a performance-based look. You wouldn't have the Ram truck advertisement there if there weren't great ratings right?

Shout out Ram. It's all performance based you know and you wouldn't be driving a beautiful ram truck I mean that's all everything is based on performance and at North Carolina it's based on performance and you earn it no matter if you're a walk-on or you're a scholarship player you got to earn it. Life is merit based it always will be I think and I hope even though there's some nepotism and some networking that give people good jobs and you want to talk about performance based there's a reason Ram trucks all over the place. It's 2500 heavy-duty rebel ram yeah diesel power

oh my performance through the roof just like Lambo okay we're gonna pivot away from North Carolina angel program talk about a lot of the NFL stuff that you would know a lot about. Con man has a question for you. Yeah Lombo, you brought up Mike Vrabel. Obviously he got hired in New England last week. Huge. Everyone in New England's pumped. I will say if you steal any of the coaches he's thinking of hiring, you're a son of a bitch and I hate you. But with that being said, hopefully that doesn't happen. What do you think about the hire and how should I kind of feel about this year's expectations with Mike Frable at the helm?

Cuz at the current moment in time, I think Drake May is gonna win the MVP and we're gonna win the Super Bowl. But I think what you found out was everybody going to Dairy Queen after the game didn't work, right? Everybody being nice and friendly and fuzzy and having a great time. And now they brought in somebody who understands how to lead. They brought in somebody who can hold players accountable. And he does it from an ex-player's point of view, which is really impressive.

He's got a commanding figure to him. He's a great coach. He's smart. For the life of me, I don't understand why he sat out of last year. I think it's a tremendous hire. I have great respect for Mike Rabel. I think he knows what he wants. He'll do exactly what we talked about here at North Carolina

He's gonna scout inside out. The team will be tough Practices will be demanding. He also knows how to work the players through it because he's done it and he speaks from a voice Of authority. I think it's really one of the best tires I mean for him to be out of football based on what had happened in the NFL last year in terms of the coaching It's hard to believe I mean look some of these teams Tennessee made a coaching change They didn't get better New England made a coaching change. They didn't get better Atlanta made a coaching change They didn't get better sometimes change doesn't make you better I thought when they let tennis when Tennessee let Mike Brayboy go that was a mistake and I think New England benefited from it

Yeah, if Rames was able to get to Tennessee Titans at number one overall seed in the AFC with like a hundred player 90 some players on IR like he's obviously creates seemingly a winner Whenever he is in charge that Tennessee Titans team speaking about him the way will Compton still talks about him Yes, right even with who will Compton was which is obviously a dog. Yeah 10 obviously On the horizon potentially. Especially with how he's been doing.

But then Taylor LeJune, who high profile, starting tackle, so that's the entire roster there. Basically chit chatting about variable, all the same thing. Hard nose, tough guy, obviously talk shit, but he's an accountability driven coach. And the way he talks. And we're gonna win, and he's a strategist, and he's like a genius when it comes to football.

Yeah, that was the biggest thing is like, he was given an interview and he talked about like, the percentages of teams that win when they throw over 50 times. And what the percentages of teams when they win, when they run the ball, you know, 30 plus times. Like to your point, the strategist, football genius, people aren't really giving him credit

because there's people online saying like, this guy isn't a good coach. I don't know why that's awesome. Well, I just like the MC DC shit Just like people said about MC DC because it's hard to get past the oh this guy's a big dumb dipshit You know like because there's been people that have been built and looked and maybe have a similar past as these two people That have certainly been like that. Let's not let's not Rule out all the big dumb dipshits meatheads there have been in the past where people could potentially send prejudice onto two new meatheads that might not be big dumb dipshits that are actually you know motivational and smart and deep thinking and charming man yeah I got a dip in but

man you know wife and I watch rom-com you know man I'm not worried about it so it's like I think that's where Vrebel lies. And I think the NFL and football as a whole are lucky that he's back in a big time position. And I think the rest of the NFL is pissed, the Patriots are probably gonna be back. Now, let's talk about a team that might never be back or maybe will be.

Ty, has a question for you. Yeah, Lambeau, I think one of the more interesting openings is the Raiders and it's a team obviously that Bill was, you know, tied to a bunch because Brady's there But now reports are coming out that Ben Johnson It seems like that is more and more likely that that's where he's gonna wind up and all last year We were talking about hey Ben Johnson. He's in a perfect spot because he can kind of pick and choose here He's the hottest name their offense has been unbelievable the last two years

And then you look at the Raiders as a whole and they don't have a quarterback they have holes everywhere is the Allure of Tom Brady being you know a partial owner and having hands-on in this process Is that enough to get one of these marquee guys to say yep? I'll whatever you know whatever you need you need me to do I'm I'm gonna go to Vegas because I want to coach under Tom and do you believe Tom being around there is Enough for the the Raiders to turn things around rather quickly when they've been so shitty for so long I think it's certainly a step in the right direction I mean you get a guy that understands what it takes to win a former player

Who's achieved at the highest level of his profession? the greatest quarterback the goat and you get him in there and you sit in a meeting with him and he knows what it takes to win. He knows what locker rooms need to have to win. And so I think if you're Ben Johnson and you're having a conversation with Tom through his agent and through all the people, I think you get a sense of comfort. Look, I think a lot of these jobs are driven by what's the ownership behavior, right? I mean, what is the ownership behavior? And we've seen that Mark Davis has been impatient,

but now we see that I think it's time for him to allow someone to come in and buffer this. And I think ultimately that'll be a good situation and he'll be able to find players and develop talent. Look, whoever, Ben Johnson goes to the Raiders, he's not gonna be able to turn that program around a year, but he's gonna find a quarterback to help that he could turn it around and build the team inside out.

And I think Tom has a really good understanding of team building. I've spoken to Tom many times in the past about team building, about how to scout inside out. I think Tom's going to do great. Hey, that was an incredibly smooth move of your phone, either silencing it or passing something off while giving a perfect take.'s why you're the difference brother that's why you are the X Factor in everything I all day busy right now we're very busy no it's you know it's every day is the same you know you just you got to solve

problems you got to put fires out you got to find players I mean look one thing about this program it's all about consistency. It's about doing it every single day and getting better at what you do and that's what I'm not at said that standards for me too. I've got a poll to it so whether if I asked the players to do it we better make damn sure we're doing it on the fourth floor here. Fourth floor. Yeah. Ah, UNC's gonna be back maybe. Huh? Doesn't? Doesn't sound like the Raiders might be back too. Maybe.

The NFL needs the Raiders to be good. They really do. They're such a great fan base. They really are. It's like they hated you for a while. You remember that? Oh yeah. They always hate me.

They hate me because I speak the truth to them. They have we haven't. Well, they've won two. They haven't won a playoff game since we lost the Super Bowl. I mean that you know, too I mean, they haven't won a play been a lot three playoff games. They've lost every wild card Nobody wants to hear the truth but the problem has been since we lost the great Rich Gannon that program has really struggled and Now they've got to get somebody look every reason why teams lose is there's not a command

center. There's not somebody bringing a plan in on how we're going to win. And it has to come from a paramilitary basis. It's got to come from a supreme commander. I think New England just got a supreme commander, right? The Raiders have a supreme commander and Tom Brady. That's how you win. Hell yeah.

Supreme commanders. You need one voice at the end of the day. Somebody has to have two votes, you know, because there's always going to be disagreements in my eyes. Now granted, there's people that are going to say committees have been able to figure things out, even though committees, every time we hear about them, they're not figuring things out. I don't know if committees have ever figured something out and it all go the way it's supposed to go. But in my eyes, one person having a vision is certainly a right answer now if it's wrong then we know who right yeah we can replace person if it's right though we

also know who plus alongside others so I think supreme commander is a hilarious way yeah to describe that and I will start taking it as if it's my own. But I appreciate the fact that you guys got a bunch of spring commanders down there in North Carolina. 22 years. We got one. We know where we're going. We know where we're going. And there's going to be no confusion. And people that don't want to get on board, we'll find somewhere else. Because here's what I do know. You know, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back. You know, everybody's replaceable, me included. So that's what I do know. You know the name on the front is more important than the name on the back. You know everybody's replaceable, me included, so that's the culture you want. That's the culture that Tom will bring to the Raiders.

That's the culture that New England's going to go back to with there. There won't be people in meetings. There won't be administrators coming down. You know they've made changes already to benefit Mike Brable in New England that were prohibiting them from being successful because they wanted to try that, what I call that Dairy Queen method, like we're all going to sing Kumbaya and go get ice cream. Yeah, we all got it right. We did good here. We did good here.

Chuck wanted to ask you a quick question on that particular. As far as the GM search goes there at the Raiders, that's open as well. Have you heard anything like if Ben Johnson is the guy that they're targeting they're pairing these guys up now coming into a building so they get two guys that are you know going to work together be collaborative all that stuff get along any word on that I know that they're talking through a host of people but I do think Tom understands more than anything there has to be symmetry between the two they don't have to get along, right?

What they have to do is share the same vision. And I think the best thing you can have is a debate. I mean look, Jim Harbaugh goes out to the Chargers, he hires someone that he's very comfortable with that will debate them and force him to think differently about players. It doesn't mean we're all going to get along, but we share the same philosophy. We know exactly what we want in every player. We know how we're going to build this team inside out and no one's going to argue about it, right? No one's going to argue that the Chargers take an offensive lineman when somebody in the back of the room thinks we should take a receiver because everybody's

in tune to the philosophy that Harbaugh set. See, that's the key. And if you're Ben Johnson, you come in there with a philosophy. Here's what I want to do offensively, defensively, the kicking game. And it's the job of the personnel guy to work within the framework of that and sell that to the people who are doing all the pro doing all the scouting. That's the job. That's how you get alignment. All this crap about being on the same page, it owes out the window. As soon as you lose the game. But to create true alignment, you've got to get the leaders

have to preach everything that you want to do. It's the first thing we did here. What's our recruiting message? We got to get that to people so the kids know exactly hey, if you don't want it, no problem. You know, I say this all the time to kids. Yes is good. No is good. Maybe stinks. I hate maybe maybe I'm interested. Maybe I'm not. No, I'm moving on. When you tell me your maybe we're going to the next kid. Right? No, and no, I can deal with maybe I can maybe. Maybe I'm interested, maybe I'm not. No, I'm moving on. When you tell me you're maybe, we're going to the next kid, right? No, I can deal with maybe I can't.

And I'm excited to see if this works. Legitimately, just because everything we're hearing about this current process is like very different than that. But the allure of like, hey, this is a professional football academy pretty much is what you're going to. And if you don't end up in the NFL, you are gonna end up a great business person you're

gonna end up a great whatever because this is like a life so I think you're gonna find your people like I think you're gonna find your people I'm excited to see how quickly that all happens once again you win it's an easy yep that's an easy sell which you guys have always done now let's talk about supreme commanders one that has been in charge for a long time, and also has some acting chops. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, we're talking about Supreme Commander Jerry Jones

of the Dallas Cowboys, but I just wanted to get your whole situation on Jerry and how he's handled not allowing Big Mike to interview with the Bears, and then allowing Big Mike to leave, not getting a contract done, which in return, you in return you don't get to, you know, talk to any of the coordinators of the teams in the divisional round. And now they're bringing in, you know,

Kellen Moore and Jason Whitten and Deion Sanders potentially. What, what's your thoughts on what's going on in Dallas altogether? Well, I think, look, you have to buy into what Jerry wants to do. I think when you watch the land man episode where Jerry probably had a Golden Globe performance, you know, it was tremendous. And we wrote about for the Daily. It was just really good. It almost brought you to tears. The way he did it. It was, but it I, one take, one take we've learned one take. I didn't know that. Unbelievable. I mean, what I thought it really did for me is as knowing the Cowboys for as long as I have, it really clarified a lot of things. And it made me understand what he was trying to do to be around his kids.

And I think when you go down there and accept that job, it's your job to figure out how to make it work under those parameters. Because those parameters are non-negotiables in Jerry's world. I think it's very challenging because the players know they work for Jerry. I think that's the hardest part. And so they've got to find a way to bridge that a little bit. But what they need down there is they need somebody to get a uniform like they had with Parcells.

And look, Mike did a really good job down there. I mean, Mike, what, he won a lot of games. Unfortunately, he couldn't win a playoff game. So they've got to ask themselves, how do we get over the hump? But I think I was surprised he didn't hire Mike back because I felt like at 82 years old, he has a hard time wanting change.

Think it'll be interesting what he tries to do moving forward. But I do think they need somebody who's gonna be able to talk to Jerry in a way to where it allows the coach to get the things he needs to get done within the framework of what Jerry wants to do. Beginning of the show yesterday,

I thought there was no chance Prime was gonna be a head coach at Dallas Cowboys. By hour two, I was about 50-50. By the end of the show, I was like, Deion Sanders is gonna be the head coach at the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. That is me doing a daily the show, I was like, Deion Sanders is going to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. That is me doing a daily sports show.

Okay. So having to talk about all of it so often, yada, yada, yada, and hearing all angles and all different sides, having multiple different opinions, literally day to day as new information is presented to us. It's like Prime would be the guy that you would think would be able to talk to Jerry, right? Because the amount of respect that they have,

hopefully for each other, especially if they were able to do it. So maybe he'd be able to talk to Jerry right because the amount of respect they have hopefully for each other especially if they were able to do it so maybe he'd be able to navigate those waters a little bit better and same with Jason Whitten like maybe that's why these two are allegedly being targeted so hard and allegedly Jane Slater I do believe was reporting that Jerry Jones is viewing this as a solo supreme commander mission to hire the next head coach that's, especially with that land man scene where one and done, improv. So good.

Even a little punch joke over there, Sprite chicken, you. Talking to you. Don't let me put my rubber glove on the next time I come in here. I love that he tagged that on the way out the door too. It was all done really well. It was perfect.

He needs to get into that. I think a lot of this will depend on the staff who he wants to bring in. But I do think Stephen Jones is the voice of reason within that building. And I think he has tremendous influence on his father. I do believe that. I don't think Jerry will make this decision without Stephen and Jerry Jr. at least and Charlotte contributing because they've laid that all out. So I think that part of that job is you got to get along with the family. Yeah, definitely. You got to get along with the family. Anytime you're going into a family

business, you're gonna have to understand that you're operating in a different set of rules. You're an outsider coming in there. And if you're already part of the family, might be easier to kind of get the job done. We appreciate the hell out of you. Good luck down there, brother. Love it, guys. Love Love it guys. Enjoy the games this weekend. Yeah we got like 20 seconds. Any leans? Any leans on any of those? Or you're not paying attention? Look I think that that Buffalo, that Buffalo 2-3 that's the hardest seeding right there. I think to me weather's going to be a factor. I love Baltimore all year. Their defense has really improved. Zach Orr from the start of the year to the middle's been tremendous

Look Detroit's so good, but then when you break down Washington's numbers, they're good on third down They make explosive plays Detroit's won 28th in the league and explosive plays allowing Detroit's got to control the pace of that time I think that's really important. We'll see you next hour. Thanks. Love up. Thank you We'll see you next hour. Thanks, Lobo. Thank you. From ESPN Podcast and Omaha Productions, Coach is a new groundbreaking educational football podcast hosted by NFL Legends Bill Belichick, Matt Patricia, and Michael Lombardi. In each episode, the coaches break down game changing situations and front office management

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Is the greatest and we're so lucky that we get to talk about it every single day. I'm not alone obviously. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. How are you doing Ty? Doing great. Doing absolutely great. Hey listen, National Championship is right around the corner.

It's Monday night. I know, it's crazy. Divisional round is coming up. This weekend too. So feeling great but also kind of creeping into the back of your mind It's crazy that this the season has no not this fast. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah not It's not we still got a lot of time. We still got a month plus here So we're good, but somebody said to me last night on a call. Mm-hmm. I'll see you down soup ball, right?

Or was that yesterday with? That's what I was Keith. I'll see you down soup ball. Yeah, certainly. Yeah my head is like he's like a few weeks three four months Yeah, a few weeks. It's less than a month for sure Oh my god, 36 years in football 18 college 18 the NFL coach Pagano is here coach flew by few weeks Freaking flew by only have eight games off It's great Oh mama, I'm in fear for my life I'm the law, I'm a bad law When the season ends we talk about sports we don't know but we love ball More sports get it their time to shine.

That's right. Started with one, counting down to allow four or five different sports to get a chance to shine. In a matter of a few weeks, can't wait for it. Oh that NHL season is going to be fantastic. It's hot. Because people forget hockey is awesome. That's right. Follow it closely.

And then you want to talk about lacrosse. Did you see the box lacrosse league the other day? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah BOM! Knockout! YEAH DUDE! Mitt knocked the guy out in the middle of a lacrosse game the other night I can't wait to follow that and have you seen the Association? They're saying not a lot of people watching the Association I'm gonna tell you if they start having nights like they had last night on a regular basis More people are to be watching.

It was poster night in the NBA. Chris, Braun, get the rock. Hi! Hi! Normally they're doing a milk check over there instead of going, hi! That was awesome. That wasn't the only one though. Last night was filled with it.

How about Zack 80, seven 4 over 7 foot 3? What me that's in the first quarter you gonna get back to battle of the Giants to 7 footers battling underneath one from Canada one from France the NBA down in San Antone has a couple Giants well, let's see when be what do you do to get back? Ah Didn't even jump blocked block the seven foot four guy at the rim. This is all last night. This is one night.

And then in this game, the biggest highlight of the night, the one that you've certainly seen, which didn't even count. Hi-o. John. I mean, I mean that is, ha, and then I saw some people on the internet

that have never played played sport in their life Say it's not a dunk. You didn't even tell you just threw it in yeah Even more impressive like people acting like because his hand didn't rattle the rim or the backboard That it's not as impressive as being so high. Okay over a seven foot three. Yep Anomaly, he has the alien logo as his logo because they don't make him. Had eight blocks in the first half last night. Yep. He's already being considered the greatest defender of all time. Standing at the rim. How tall is Juh? Six foot? Two, three. Yeah. Whatever the case, anybody could get it. That's why whenever he was starting out down there in Memphis, it was a rise to super stardom. He was on commercials

He was the guy anybody could get he actually once said I'm not gonna talk anymore a little bit too dangerous Yeah, well John happy you're taking to the skies again because this didn't even count and I think it helped out the NBA immensely Cock back So high in the sky That he could just throw it into the hoop people act like that isn't impressive get the hell out of here these Giants battling Was certainly worth a watch last night the clips like we all did right. I was just scrolling. Holy shit Holy shit Holy shit, and then a holy

Shite And then a holy shite when Braun won bananas. But these two battling it out. Shout to Purdue, Zach Eady. Obviously we saw him at a couple different events. He had one of those big ass hats on, looked average. Looked like a normal hat on him. So congrats to him pulling that off. And then Wemby and obviously the points per game,

a little bit different. Rebounds per game is a little bit different. Blocks per game, a little bit different. Eady is a rookie. He's also on a Memphis Grizzlies team that might be able to oh Yeah, they're going a little bit that would set the record for most blocks per game in a single season in the history of basketball eight in the first half last thing blocks crazy, you know triple doubles are normally like points boards and assists this dude blocks Ten again, but very it's like a thing he just it just kind of happens because he just does this number here and he's above the

rim you know I played volleyball in high school great sport great sport and actually had some colleges looking at me to play college volleyball which is a pretty cool thing and that was an outside hitter okay so I would jump up you know bow and arrow that thing and I'm going down with it All right, so that's kind of my role I was able to play in the back row, but I'm coming from back row as well You know, I'm doing the entire thing and I didn't know volleyball well enough only played like one year So whenever the at that point I had already committed to West Virginia to kick footballs and already told like soccer schools

I'm not gonna be playing soccer because I'm gonna go kick football So volleyball is in the spring didn't play soccer that spring because I was already gonna go kick So, you know kind of that whole thing. Played volleyball at the end of the season, had a pretty good year, great team, great group of dudes. A lot of soccer guys on that team. We had so much fun. I learned the sport kind of as we're going through.

My favorite sport that I played in high school, just because of the environment. So we were filling up gymnasiums for these games. I mean, it was, it was awesome. It was a good time. I think we were in an entertaining team. If I had to guess, I think people would say, you know, that Plum team, pretty entertaining to watch.

A lot of Moxie on our team. A lot of Moxie on our team. Tone did not play. No, baseball guys. Tone got in a fight actually alongside CFO Phil and many others in the crowd. Because you know, we did bring other teams crowds out too because of potential things that were being said.

I mean, we had, it was electrifying. I'm going to be, it was my favorite sport that I played in there. But at the end I had a couple of schools that, you know wanted to talk to me or whatever and You know, I don't know shit about volleyball So I sit down and we're chit-chatting and they're like Well, we're thinking you could be a libero for us with how athletic you are and your ability in the back row We think you'd be able to figure it out

Libero is a constant back row that wear the different jersey and you're just getting It is not a fun. I mean those balls are going hard mountain you're getting bang bang it is not fun on the flip side you hitting those things into these people and the thud that happens and the ball goes flying off awesome feeling I mean it is awesome I was like I I'm an outside hitter you know I I'm all a bear I'm an outside hitter and I believe the one coach told me we have a six foot nine guy from Lithuania Who is our outside hitter and we'll be playing a guy who's six foot seven from somewhere else So are you gonna go over that guy because he just raises his hands like this and he's able to block you

It's like Wemby if he was to play volleyball Man, if he was there He would literally just be able to do the windshield like being built like that being that athletic and then them Preparing him to remain healthy with like the little muscle exercises in his feet and his ankles Because they did a study on where tall people normally end up falling apart at because when you're that big your joints Just kind of get beat to hell them since high school I think have been trying to build up said muscles and said joints so that he can last and it's like What he's able to do and shoot and block and wiggle and it's like he's special. He is a special talent to watch

Yeah, he's nearly now but ten years from now there was probably gonna be a couple of them bingo I mean even thinking about Cooper fly like Cooper fly 610 Kevin Durant Yeah, Kevin Durant started this I don't want to say started this, but when Kevin Durant was at Texas, and then when he gets to the NBA, they didn't think he was going to work in the NBA, because he was too thin. Remember, this guy's too thin, he's too thin, he's too thin.

And then he goes and starts doing his shit. It's like, oh, we got a seven footer, sorry, six foot 11er that doesn't want to be called seven foot. That's how different the game is. He was six foot 11 guy who was able to wiggle and shoot and everything. It's like now that's just kind of the... It's like a thing, yeah. There's's another guy i think who's 16 now overseas who is

on the same kind of trajectory where he's doing all the shit and he's also like seven feet what's the kid at img seven foot what though all right he's at florida at florida yeah what is he uh he's seven nine he is out for the season with a foot injury yeah which that is the hard thing about giants yeah and it's hard for their body to be able to keep up with their size feels like they've He is out for the season with a foot injury. Yeah, which that is the hard thing about Giants. Yeah. It is hard for their body to be able to keep up with their size. It feels like they've been preparing Wembe for this moment. It's been fun to watch.

Not a lot of people watching though, I guess, but we'll get into it in just a few weeks when we're Super Bowls. Just a few weeks. Right basketball. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, currently in a base or in Attica, Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ.J. Hawk. Yeah, Hawk, hey!

A.J., did you see the hi last night? I'll tell you what, are people really saying Jah didn't dunk that ball? I understand he didn't touch the red technically with his hand, but I mean, the fact that he even challenged him and he went up there for that was awesome. So those tweets actually happening,

close your eyes, imagine what the person looks like that tweeted it. Yes, you were right. I did did some research you are 100% exactly what you thought it was I mean if John was playing any sport obviously he would be successful but I love that he's playing I like that he's back and it feels like he had to take some hard lessons earlier in his career yeah hello problem with those Instagram lives every time they came on, he's like, where's my... Every single time. I could never let one Instagram live fly. Every single time we're live on IG, where... Let me find it. Turn around. I can smell it. Keep it going. Got it. Right here.

All right. Show it real quick. Boom! That was literally what it felt like. It was. They were all like, Jesus Christ man Just come on dude, you know, like you were so much fun had to learn. He was young very very young I assume he had to learn a lot of lessons quickly about life now. He's all the way back and it's like let's go Let's keep doing that. I think the NBA certainly certainly need to yeah much better with him than without Yeah, the NBA though is I guess somebody's What people are mad they're shooting so many threes. Is that the thing? Well, no one cares cuz look at the teams at the top like everyone hates the Celtics

Of course, but Cleveland not not the biggest market Oklahoma City Also, not the biggest market and then like the superstars the oldest ones are kind of on their way out So it's one of those things where that whole conversation last year during the playoffs like who's the face of the league? Like all the potential faces of the league aren't the most liked people in the league Well, I think they never tried to be liked by anybody. Yeah these NBA guys They never tried to be and I say that is not that they're not affable people But they never do any interview like you never heard any of these guys talk outside of just NBA media You know, we never really you don't see him on show

Like I don't think I know much about a lot of these guys that outside of just NBA media. You know, we never really, you don't see them on show. Like I don't think I know much about a lot of these guys that I'm a massive fan of. Now granted, I think, you know, all the smoke coming around in the NBA getting like podcasts, I think that has helped. But I think whenever you think about just from a national 37,000 foot perspective, I don't think anybody knows much about a lot of these guys other than just them playing basketball. And then also when those type of people hear oh they're arresting their bodies back in my day it's like don't know

anything about them so can't really like them personally here that they have a poor work ethic even though nowadays these guys are bigger stronger faster going like everything like that so i think there's a little bit of a combo on why maybe people aren't paying attention as much but i think it's definitely gettable i think you can back, especially with the dudes that we've met. Like Halliburton, I fucking love him. He's the best. He's pretty rare though. Kevin Durant, I love Kevin Durant.

But nobody really knows much about him until he starts doing up in Adams with K Adams, and then that's whenever clipster kind of get out. But I think that's part of the thing too, is those guys really don't, they don't have to do that stuff, because they're making so much money, and if you're balling out on the court,

you're going to get a shoe deal. You'll probably get like a Gatorade or powerade or whatever like they really don't have to do all that other outside stuff unless they really want to and i think another one of the issues like we showed the christian brawn dunk like that's an awesome highlight that was unbelievable great posterization but i mean look at the score it's like it's not a competitive game at all so it's like if that's what you're watching it for yeah you're going gonna get plays like that. You're gonna get some sweet dunks and everything but it kind of goes back to everything else We're talking about it's like these games aren't competitive It's like one team is much better than the other team and it kind of just stays that and the other team might tap out

Too because they know they're gonna game tomorrow exactly if we're gonna get killed tonight, why waste any energy? It's certainly a thing as Chuck drops his bottle. Let's pivot away from This is my pack This guy literally can't hear anything right now. No, sorry boys New York and Philly was a hell of a game. Yeah, you're right. Brunson 38. Oh, Josh Hart, I think went bananas as well. Yeah, Tripp Bellable. Yeah, how about it? Okay. All right, let's move it away from the off season sports and talk about the current sport

that is happening. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a four time NFL MVP. He is a quarterback for the Jets right now. What does the future hold? I don't know if any of us know. We will certainly ask, ladies ladies and gentlemen Super Bowl champion All-time great future first ballot Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers Hey, don't brother what an honor to be on the PMS on Thursday with the legend coach Paganos

That means a lot cuz you know how I feel about you and the respect that I have for you I got a beautiful question for you today. Yes, please do. Yeah, so I was contemplating retirement Aaron in 2020 you know my last two seasons that I coached were in Chicago Place you owned and made everybody know that several occasions But there was a game. We enjoyed we enjoyed your short visit there okay that's what i'm talking about okay sarcasm's easy erin okay so last game of the season 2020 covid year right you guys are down at our place the season, 2020, COVID year, right? You guys are down at our place.

Second quarter, we're up 10-7. I'm only asking you, cause you're the only one that's got a brain to remember every single play, let alone like the ones that you figured out what the hell we were gonna do before we did it. And, you know, the rest is history. And I'm still apologizing to the linebacker

who I put in the worst position you could put a guy in. But it was third and four. Eight minutes and 40 seconds to go in the second quarter. And I'm trying to figure out, okay, what do we do? You guys are in empty, two by three. Two guys to the left left three to the right. Lazard was at number three inside receiver to trip side. 17 was to your left.

And right before in a play clocks under five seconds. And so you signaled out to 17 something because I think you already identified that okay 20 Duke Shelley. You remember Duke Shelley Duke Shelley's coming off this side. Robert Quinn got lined up late over on this side. So why'd you have to do it? Like I was contemplating retirement, but that kind of sealed it. That play right there.

And in a 36 year career. I almost got a linebacker fired for the position that I put him in do you remember the play? I Didn't really play So what was it? What did you figure out you did it? Was this a Chuck Pagano tendency or? Did they give it away too much here it is right here. This is literally is this the play No second That was not the play? Oh, that's it.

Yeah, that's it. I can't see. 72 yards later. We're up 10-7. We got hope. We got life. You remember this? Yeah.

Of course. Yes. What tipped it off? What, how? What could I have done different? Is what Chuck's saying. I think sometimes an empty, you got to get those guys up on the line. Because then you really have to make a protection

adjustment. You don't feel like you can beat it with the ball. If you run back the clip, I felt like in the situation, even if Duke came off the slot, I believe I took a I took a three and no it's to throw this year. No refree runner. I took a tight I took a tight hit. Yeah. I mean, he's, you know, I think we'd seen someone film you guys have done something similar. And I remember kind of in the back of my mind saying, if I have speed at three

on this vertical, you know, in this situation, we're an empty, and they bring this slide, I can probably retreat and lob it up down the field. Just so so happened we had our fastest guy at three there in Marquez. Part of it is when the defense really can all work together. Now, it wasn't just necessarily of Shelley doing that, but third and four in that situation, we're on the 30-yard line or whatever. The safety is playing a little too aggressive, I think down there on number two. He can probably play a little high to low from three to two there based on the timing.

You know what I mean? Because he knows. Take notes just in case somebody calls. I don't think they are. They see this. Well, Chuck, as you know, and I know you watch a lot of ball, like the best defenses, you know,

that run the protection, the pressures that are going to get after your protection is when the vision knows and understands what time the ball has to come out. So those guys can play first movement. I feel like in this situation, the safety was too quick to play our number two to the three receiver side stopping instead of just playing high to low there. You know, giving your linebacker a little bit of help. Now if Shelley's on the line of scrimmage and it's like, oh fuck it, you know, he's coming, then you then you know you have to make the correct protection call there to even

have a chance. But because he's still coming from the slot and trying to super disguise, which is great, as long as everybody's working together, gave me a little bit of opportunity to throw it down the field. That's my question. Yeah, because Devontae looked, but you knew you had time. That guy was coming from Michigan.

I mean, you had to get him up on the line. Geez Louise. You could have done me a favor. Coming from Subway, Chuck. Devontae looked, just dumping it to him, but no, we had to go over the top. Good call. Yeah, so on that note.

I apologize. No, it's all good. You made a lot of call. Yeah. I apologize. No, that's all good. That's all good. I like that play. I've always respected you and and you guys got us back in 2012. You remember we were beating the hell out of you guys at halftime. I think 21 to three. You guys came back and beat us there. Andrew had a great game and that was in the hospital. That was my first game. I met that's Chuck Strong game. That's that was the truck strong game. Yeah, that was my hospital that was my first game I met that's Chuck strong game

that's all that was a truck strong game yeah that was your team though yeah that was your team yeah we're all wearing the shirts we're all wearing the shirts and pregame oh so you let them win yeah okay Saturday well I thought I thought you know I didn't actually realize it was for Pagano I thought it might have been Chuck Norris and I'm a big Chuck Norris man okay I was thinking this Chuck Norris and I'm a big Chuck Norris fan. I was thinking, is this Chuck Norris? What are we doing here? Chuck's super strong. And somebody told me, and somebody told me, no, this was Chuck Pagano.

I said, oh, okay, okay, cool. Reggie came out with the orange gloves, I believe, did the entire, I mean, it was, that was a magical day in the history. That was an energy, I remember just how special that day was. It had to be for you, Chuck, because the overwhelming support and love that was was born out there is pretty cool to watch. I still wish we'd beat the hell out of you guys but yeah of course it would have been cool to go in there on Chuck Strong night and be a little stronger we get it you know

and Chuck would end up beating leukemia and return in that season which was awesome and you're a legend everybody that's ever played for you feels the exact same way we love you now you don't only you don't only retired him, you've retired a lot of people I assume throughout your career at different positions. Let's talk about you and your retirement potentially. Hearing you talk about that football right there and chit-chat about the move and what you see and what you like and I think you've told us before like you're such a competitor the only place that you really feel like you can scratch the itch of competition on a full-time basis is amongst the best which is in the NFL. How much have you had to think and

contemplate about your future? How much pressure is being put on you to think about that decision? And how are you managing that with everything that's going on back in Southern California legitimately? Like how are you as a person and how are you thinking about everything professionally? Because I assume there's a decision has to be made. Well, the season is not technically over. I always feel like the season's over once the Super Bowl is over. And then kind of everything resets, everybody's zero and zero again. And there's a chance for everybody to reset.

Now there's obviously movie pieces in New York, there's been a number of job interviews for GM and for head coach. There's even more names being released every day that the team is looking at. But I've had limited communication with them. I've been dealing with trying to protect my house over here. My house is fine. I'm not in the areas that have been affected. But it's been a weird time for so many people that live down here, friends of mine that lost houses, number of friends in Palisades lost their homes,

number of friends in Pasadena affected, and friends around Runyon Canyon. It's been a tough time for sure. A lot of the attention has gone to so many celebrities who lost their houses. There's some affluent areas in both Palisades and some of those areas in Malibu that got affected. But there's a lot of other people that just your average great Southern California folks who lost everything as well.

It's going to be tough to rebuild. Anybody who's ever tried to build a freaking structure in Southern California knows how ridiculous the, you know, just trying to get a freaking permit to build anything is. Maybe there'll be some common sense politics that makes things easier for people to rebuild. But you're talking about a multi-year comeback for some so many of these areas. It's going to be really tough for people. So it's been a tough time. it's been a loss of life, there's obviously been a lot of structures

that have been burned down. You know, I think that really the disheartening thing besides obviously the loss of homes, because it's more than just a house, right? It's a home where there's memories and years, you're talking about elderly people who've been there for 40, 50 years on the beach or in Palisades or in Altadena or whatever these areas are. But it's the arson.

There's a ton of arson. Where do you know there's a ton of arson in LA in general? It's one of those kind of things that people don't like talking about in Southern California because of all the money that goes to various initiatives. I'm not even going to mention it just because it's kind of a hot button, but there's a lot of arson and people have been caught doing it. People have been caught walking around blow torches and different shit, which is crazy and it's inhumane is what it is and it's sickening.

And then the looting that's gone on, people impersonating firefighters, people starting fires and to loot the same areas. There's a lot of things that really make you question humanity in general, and it's a bad look, because people have lost their lives, people have lost their houses, their homes, their memories, everything, their pets. And then you have people who are legitimately

starting fires in areas, the Runny and Canyon fire. That was an arson. There was a fire that was actually started real close to my house. That was arson that thankfully got put away really quick. So that's the shitty part about all this. The beautiful part is the way that so many people have come together and have gotten meals together and supplies together for these incredible men and women fighting these fires.

The people who are flying these planes. I saw this incredible video probably about a week ago of the fucking most beautiful drop from a plane that actually doused this fire. There's a lot of really talented people who've been working on this, putting in crazy freaking hours. So my heart and my hat is tipped to the incredible men and women who are putting in crazy hours, not just from Southern California, but the people that came down from Northern California and other states and supplies have been given in for those people has been amazing. So it's been a tough time for Southern California. We have to see we had some bad fires. Six, seven years ago, I believe there was a really bad fire

in Northern California. I've seen some really rough ones, Paradise, Redding, Santa Rosa You know, some really rough ones, Paradise, Redding, Santa Rosa areas especially. So it's been, you know, I'm not even going to get into the frustrations just because that's a whole other rabbit hole around some of the leadership stuff. But yeah, it's been a tough time for everybody involved. Yeah. And I'm sorry that you and everybody has had to go through it. Obviously, you literally luck out. You literally luck out in this,

obviously we have friends that also live in Southern California and it's just like whether or not you're lucky, it's almost like, it wasn't picking and choosing, it was just sporadic wind, 100 mile an hour winds or something just picking one up, and missing a home somehow and then a patch of homes somehow gets saved amongst all the rubble.

And then there's like survivors remorse happening. So it's like there's nothing good happening in any of this. And I want to let you know, and obviously I hope you've heard the calls from everybody. We are all letting you know that we think what you were going through absolutely sucks. And it is so devastating and so sad and horrific. And the stories about the arsons obviously,'s always gonna be assholes that walk amongst us and Hopefully there comes a time where we're able to handle everything and doesn't happen But the heroes that are sprinting in there are also walking amongst us that we're not really

Reminded of until something like this happens So like obviously thanks to them to hell with the assholes trying to prey on the situation and to everybody that is dealing with it We are so, so sorry. That is literally, I think all we can say from over here and hopefully going forward, there's some measures that are taken so we don't have to experience this again. And I don't want to like pivot away from that because of how real and serious that all is that you're going through. But like the decision about the season ending Super Bowl not hearing from the Jets, I assume

has this perspective changed, has this thing changed your perspective for you about your life and how fragile and how quick everything can kind of go and has that changed it? Like, is there any life perspective things happening? I know that you're a pretty deep thinker, especially around these moments. This type of situation change anything for you?

Listen, I've sat in a hole in the ground in Nowheresville, Oregon, and I've sat in numerous ayahuasca ceremony circles. So I've done a lot of contemplating in my time and gotten some good perspective adjustments over the years. This is nothing that changes my perspective other than it's heartbreaking because so many times when there's, I think we can all relate to this. Because so many times when there's, you know, I think we can all relate to this, this reality so many times where there are issues, you know,

whether it's what happened in North Carolina or the, what seems like yearly devastating hurricanes that happened or when a bad tornado goes through or, you know, whatever the natural disasters or unnatural disasters that happen, so many times that is out of mind and your heart goes out to those people, but you don't really have like a connection, so many of us, to that specific occurrence or event. But it's different here, you know, I literally flew in, no power, which again, my light is much less than anybody else has gone through, but I'm just telling you what happened.

I flew in, there's no power. I drive over the hill the next day and I call Miles. I was like, well, the first thing I did, I was checking on him because I heard Palisades and obviously we all know Miles Teller. We're either fans or personally I've known Miles for 17, 18 years. Love Miles, love Miles. Him and his wife, Kelly, they're incredible people and call them and he's like, yeah, we lost everything.

So like that was the first, literally within 24 hours of landing the first and with no power, he was like the first person I called was just to check on him. And that's when it really hit home. Like this is, you know, this is legitimate. They didn't have a chance. They had a short amount of time. They got everything they could. They got Bugsy. And with little they could fill in a car and got out. So that's the reality. But the reality is there's thousands of people like that who've

been dealing with that, got displaced, lost everything. And like you said, there's some people that somehow won the lottery and the house got missed. But you're talking about a crazy rebuild that's going to, you know, that's going to take years. Because it would take years anywhere, but it's LA with terrible, you know, just I'm not even going to just because it's so ridiculous. Just I mean, you could go on a small, you know, diatribe about the lack of leadership for so long. But as far as my own decision, I told them I'm going to take some time. They haven't even made a decision on a GM or a coach yet. Once that happens, then that'll take us to the next step, which is conversation.

I'm assuming with whoever that individual is. But this is a time where I'm taking time for my body and my mind to clear things. Obviously it's different because all that's going on in LA. And again, there's been incredible work done by all the firefighters out here in the apartments and things are actually looking up, which is great. So big shout out to all the men and women working so hard for us to save so many lives and all the heroes, all the non-professional firefighters. There's a ton of heroes out there who bought their own supplies and saved their houses and neighbors houses and the stories are starting to leak out

It's pretty fucking incredible. Yeah A lot of a lot of heroes in this and a lot of villains and those villains should be prosecuted To the highest degree of the law. Okay, and hopefully that will take place Before we move into the next step of the conversation. We like to tell miles and kelly and bugsy. We are happy you're okay Sucks that that happens. Bad. In a bad, bad way. But I feel like being around Miles, even in this negative, devastating thing, he's going to bring the juice. That guy's awesome. Still bringing it.

He is awesome. He's a good man. I hated him at the beginning. You did? Hated him. Thought he threw me under the bus for no reason. I didn't create the story All right So what are you coming after before you need to go after somebody else did not like him and I think they're kind of ran

With the story without knowing the whole truth. I didn't report it and I didn't know the guy and it was a great career it was a certainly I did not report it though a Legitimate place in his world reported it. Mm-hmm legitimate place in his world reported it. TMZ, I believe was the person. He got jumped by a psycho. I heard he lost the fight. So in the moment, you know, and I heard there was an entire situation going on over there.

So we just talked about it, how it was reported. And I didn't know Miles. And then all of a sudden I drop it into a WWE show. This guy just got punched in the face like he's Miles Teller I thought it was a great like I thought it was great but a topical just happened earlier in the day this is I didn't make up this story was being reported didn't know miles thought that's what happened and then all of a sudden miles response that cool segue dude did the whole thing I jumped almost

died and robbed and it's like I'm like okay so you so then all the tabloids around the world were like miles teller dunks on Pat McAfee who tries to make a mockery Oh this is what so I'm getting murdered again in different languages Just like we have done in the past together and I'm like fuck this guy you didn't have to come out and create the story I'm just talking about things that are already in our lexicon and being reported as such and then we talk a good word Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. I appreciate I said a few of them in there and then whenever I talked to Miles for the first time and we kind of chat and we golf together it was like oh this is good dude and he probably thought that we were potentially friends at the time so me Barry. He thought you guys might be throwing down a little bit. I was ready

to yeah I was completely ready to at the UFC fight. We ran into each other and I had a neck brace on cuz Baron Corbin had just yeah On the outside I was with Nick Khan Triple H the McMahon family we go this UFC fight We show up for style bender coming in with the Undertaker theme, you know, Chris Prats two doors down We had just talked about his performance in Jurassic Park. Yeah you didn't know him in the time either. Jurassic World did not know him. I did not know any of Chris Prats work other than Jurassic World and I certainly had my opinions on that entire thing. He did not love him.

And then right next to him is Miles and Kelly and I was like alright on the way I'm actually telling Triple H on the way out of here like hey there might be some shit on the way out of here and he's like what do you mean I'm like there might be some shit on the way out of here. And he's like, what do you mean? I'm like, there might be some shit on the way out of here. He goes, all right, I'll break it up if you start losing. I'm like, all right, thank you. He's like, that's Triple H. That's hilarious.

I have a neck brace on. I have a fucking neck brace on. I'm in a tank top. You know, so I walk by and Miles goes, hey, can we talk for a second? I go, absolutely. You know, and then here's Triple H. If you look at the photos, Triple H is like watching the whole thing. I think he's like, holy shit talk for a second? I go, absolutely. You know, and then here's Triple H. If you look at the photos,

Triple H is like watching the whole thing. I think he's like, holy shit, like this is actually gonna go. Kelly, Kelly starts yelling at me because I go, I don't know what your problem is to Miles, was that what I said to him? And she goes, don't talk to him like that. I didn't know who she was.

I had no idea. I said, I will not be talking to you. Okay, at this moment. So please, so very like matter of fact. Wow, I didn't realize this is our win Oh, yeah She like started yelling at me and I once again now that I know him mad respect for her I'll be in like you put like I appreciated it hindsight appreciate in the moment was ready

All right, here we go. I'm fighting miles teller in this entire thing, but then we had a quick He's cut. He's a big dude Quick easy been. Yeah, I would have got that. Triplets would have been doing a quick easy haul. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. You know, guys got a neck brace on it. They would have been attacking a guy with a neck brace. Sure. I mean, the scene. That was a good setup for you though,

to put that on right before that. Yeah, there I am. Just to get a little bit of. Here's the photo. That's literally what I look like, walking in and out of there. I mean, you've got to be absolutely kidding me. It was fun. It was an honor, but that was our first interaction. Seemed like a good dude. Then we talked again later. Then we got to hang out and I was like, man, I was completely wrong

about this guy. I apologize. Miles. That is a hundred percent on me. And I think the reason why he corrected us as opposed to the main story is because I think he thought we were like, like Fred, like some particle, you particle yeah like we all know the same people so he was like most disappointed with me as opposed to so i'm like i'm so sorry so i fucking love miles and kelly i've never met bugsy bugsy's a dog a cat dog okay you know I don't, I'm asking. Is it a dog, cat, hamster? It's a service animal. Okay. Shout out to Bugsy. I've never met Bugsy, I love Bugsy as well.

And to the... AJ, thanks for chiming in finally. Thank you for chiming in. Yeah, to the Teller family, we do apologize that you're going through this. We love you guys. We love you guys. And if anybody needs, like,

if anybody's setting anything up over there, we'd love to help, you know, however we absolutely can. Go ahead, AJ. I think Miles might need some shirts, you know, some black shirts, black tanks, you know, maybe send those over. Oh yeah. Listen, if he was to wear one of those,

how about him dancing? Oh my God. Yeah. That's the best. He's a good dancer. So talented. And then we were, somebody was talking- He's terrible at driving, terrible at driving golf carts under ropes.

A good dancer. Oh, we got a, we got one of these? We're taking the top off at the red light? No, he snapped my driver underneath the rope. Two years ago. Two years ago on the Wednesday before Tahoe. Yeah. All right.

All right, Age, what's your question? Hold on. Hold on. We've been sitting there for a while. We got to talk more about it because he's a talent. This. All right. Right. What's your question? Hold on. We got something there for a while. We got some more about it because he's a talent. This guy is a super talent. I didn't watch any of his movies growing up either. So that's a hundred percent on me. I didn't know who he was, but we were with somebody who was talking shit on him about his. Have you seen that awkward moment? Yeah. So good. No, definitely not. Classy. Great movie. Him, Efron, Michael B Jordan, a couple of single guys in New York is that Efron?

There's a whole nother situation that I fucking just walked myself right into yeah, God You must have tore this town down last night. I've been sober for about six seven months Jesus Christ nice to meet you man. I am so You know, I didn't know I didn't know anything. So that's it's pure ignorance on my side. I think everybody knows that so that is very kind to them I'm in my world. I'm in my world football is my world and Anytime I get chance get out and wrestling anytime I get out there, you know, I just try not to make embarrassed program I certainly have though and we're gonna try to get better but miles miles

Thank you for answering whenever that dipshit was trying to talk shit. He did that drum solo in Whiplash, that's him. He did he did everybody think that he's talented. Hey, I'm talented I'm telling you he's one of most talented guys I've ever seen Off the golf course. Yeah, he's not a great golfer. He neither am I though everything else off Everything else that was right after I mean, I'm you talking about like bar games and bags darts washers Yeah, he's good cup. Yeah Yeah Good vibes miles teller. Yeah, great. Hey, and we're sending ours to you teller family

And it's great to be friends with you guys. You know was willing to war happy. We're not happy We are not go ahead AJ Aaron, how'd you how'd you leave it when you left New York you meet with with brick and Woody I assume and have exit meetings I'm not sure how you leave with them what the next timeline might be and I don't know if you know this but Monday Ohio State plays in their game the national championship also the inauguration I see some different people announcing they may be performing Are you are we gonna turn TV on and see you sitting next to Elon and maybe Zuck and some of those big hitters up there on the stage? Go long!

You should complete a ball there. Well, I had seen that there were a couple inquiries. I don't know if they're invitations or not about me going out there, only related Bobby because looks like Bobby's gonna be in the cabinet. I will not be anywhere near DC. Why? But why? Yeah, I don't want any part of that. Congrats on Red Dye, by the way. Yeah, Red Dye's got RFK. He's already got his first win. Boom. Well, yeah, it's the first of many, I hope. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens. I wanna, what I do wanna watch is, I wanna watch his confirmation hearing

and just see who tries to fuck with him. Like, please, somebody try and get after him and just watch him absolutely mop the floor with any of these senators. So you better come ready, senators. Come ready and try and, you know, see if you can pull it over on my boy Bobby because Bobby's a fucking smart dude and no notes off the cuff and can handle his own pretty well. So excited for him to and honestly, so should everybody. Like if you spend a minute researching ingredients

in products in the states compared to overseas, it's disgusting. It's disgusting what they allow here, the levels that they allow here, products that are terrible for you, products they know are carcinogenic. So it's going to be as, he's doing a service to everybody. If you just let him get the hell out of the way and stop trying to label him as whatever the fuck they want to label him these days. He just wants to make sure that everything that's being given to our kids is safe. Everything that we're ingesting on a day-to-day basis

is safe and he's gonna make America healthy again. He's gonna fricking die trying. So wouldn't you want that? The guy fucking, the guy in charge, the guy that goes down to Gold's Gym in Venice. Now he does wear jeans when he works out, but the guy's down there shirtless doing frigging 30 pull-ups and, you know,

lifting a bunch of weights, looking jocked for 70 years old. Speaking of pull-ups, speaking of pull-ups, Woody Johnson is a big pull up guy. I can tell you know, I think he he he definitely likes to talk about how many pull ups he can do, which I feel like is is a lot now he had a little injury that stopped him. But you know, when I talked to him a couple months ago, he said he's back on the

pull up. So I'm happy to hear that. But yeah, I met with the met with Woody. That was a great transition by you right there. Met with Christopher and Jaime and Coach Ulbrich and everybody there had a lot of nice conversations. Yeah, it was, you know, it was a weird transition because literally Monday, you know, we're there and meet with everybody who's starting about the fires Tuesday and, you know, there's a weird transition because literally Monday, you know, we're there I meet with everybody who started about the fires Tuesday and you know flying out to the West Coast and

I land and it's just it's going crazy. You know, it's just sits on fire and Winds are crazy and you know, I got to the house there, you know winds were going absolutely nuts gate was flying off the handles and We're going absolutely nuts. Gate was flying off the handles and no power. And then my first, like I said, get over the hill and like, shit, this is on fire. I mean, we're literally driving my buddy to the airport. It looks like, I mean, the whole sky is dark.

There's on the right, we're going south on a 101. The right is crazy sky, fire, and straight ahead, Pasadena, Alta Dena, there's a crazy, you know, crazy sky as well with flames. So it was weird coming back, but yeah, I had good conversations with all those people and made my way out here. And then obviously it's been a little bit crazy for the last nine days or so. What are those conversations, how this conversation goes? Cause nobody knows what the future is. I think that's what the next question would be if Hashtag journalism was to take place

How do those convos go just like everybody kind of states where we are what the situation is? We all understand where we are and what the future could look like is that kind of how that goes and I heard coach old brick I didn't hear there's only one brick. Yeah I don't know what that's all about. I read in New York Times The athletic could be a little bit different than that. You don't have to expand. But what are those meetings like whenever you chat with these people? Most of those conversations are meant for the people in those rooms.

Take us in there. That's good. Yeah. Put us in a room where it happens. Take us in. The best conversations are where over the years for exit meetings are where there's somebody taking notes, whether the person you're talking to or somebody else in the room taking notes, and there's constructive criticism on ways to improve how we do things around the building.

That's like from player to coach, and then from coach to player there's constructive ways in which you can show up to your job better as well. You know there's some great ones over the years with Mike you know Mike was we used to because we had such a close relationship I would be you know later in my career it went by seniority so you know once I got into like the middle 2010s, I was one of the oldest guys on the team. So my slot to meet with Mike, there's 15 minutes slots, he met with everybody on the team, which was awesome too. Like literally, everybody on the team got a 15 minute slot. And most of the time, it went more than that. But we would we would meet, but then we would meet for an extended time later in the week or at his house or my house. And I always felt like everything I told Mike got taken to heart.

And then he would always have things for me to think about, to work on, to contemplate in the off season. So I really appreciate his feedback over the years. It always made me feel like I was being listened to and that there were things that we could improve on moving forward. But those meetings went hours. These were much shorter than that. I gave some constructive things.

You know, there's always things. There's so much that goes into the whole thing. There's the food bar, there's the locker room, there's travel, there's hotel stuff. There's different, you know, you just give them little constructive things here and there that maybe they take to heart, maybe they don't. But I think there's always ways to improve and I was impressed to see that, you know, the meeting with Christopher and Jaime was a lot about that. The meeting about Woody was more about, you know,

team, future, different things. But I think everybody understands that it's gonna come down to GM and coach and myself and whether we all wanna do a dance together or if it's not in the cards. Okay, tango potential still in New York. If not, there's other spots that are gonna be looking for a quarterback if you were to remain a quarterback in the NFL. That's a decision that you obviously will have to make open

anything attached to nothing at the current moment. You mentioned Big Mike, he's a Vail boy, isn't he? Yeah. Big Mike shouldn't be out there somewhere. And if they hell of a ball coach hell of a ball coach what he did this year with the amount of injuries that they had I thought was was amazing hearing the guys talk about him I wasn't surprised just because you know anybody who plays for Mike and gets to know him a little bit and and get to feel that a great big heart that he's got.

It's special. It was interesting because anybody knows the business and Chuck, you know this better than anybody. Most of the time, coaches have an extra year on their deal. So it gives you that buffer. If you get released, you have a year to kind of not have to rush back in there. All these guys, and maybe you can speak more on this, Chuck. I'd be interested in what the mindset is,

and maybe if this ever happened to you, but I think most of the coaches on the staff went into the season without another year on their deal. They're in the last year of their deal. That's a freaking tough way to go about doing it, with no guarantees afterwards. Like, have you ever been in that position before, Chuck? Yeah, you know, after the 2015,

the fourth year of my contract, I went in after three years we made it all the way to the AFC Championship game, got the doors beat off of us. By who? Yeah, the boss. Yeah, Pat, but anyway you know who it was. But Aaron went in and I thought, you know, we were 11-5, 11-5, 11-5, made the playoffs every year, advancing the playoffs and thinking, okay, hey, time to get some new. Time to get some money here, let's go.

You know, I watched like, you know, and I love Jason Garrett, and he did a great job. He's 8 and 8, 8 and 8, 8 and 8, and he got a new six-year deal at six or seven per something. Hey, this could be a decent little deal. And only come to find out that, hey, we're just going to, you know, whatever. So I was like, okay, forget it. I don't want anything. I'm going to bet on myself. So we went into that last year with nothing.

And then Aaron to have to walk down the hallway when they come in, and this happened a couple times, and you have to tell all your assistant coaches, like, they're not re-upping us. Because every year, like, you win, and you do well, they come down, they give me the old one, they give you a new one, and you always have that year. And then guys get pissed because they're under contract, and then guys won't let them leave.

Well, you sign the thing, it's insurance, it's guaranteed, it's insurance for you. But then on the other hand, you know, you're not afraid because they can block you, so to speak. And sometimes sometimes guys will bet on themselves and not sign the contract. If their position coaches that want a chance to to interview for a job and I totally respect that. I agree. Yeah, I think it's it's it's when the most of the staff

and the head coach and the coordinators don't have that to me was like, yeah, I would think, there's no, I mean, talk about having zero confidence you're gonna be back. But to your point about Big Mike and the job that he did, to go in there and then shut the doors and say, okay, none of us, including myself, we don't have guarantees, we don't have that extra year,

but you know what, we signed the contracts, We got the name on the back of our jersey, the decal on the side of our helmet, and by God, hey, look, this ain't gonna be a distraction. We're not gonna talk about this. We're gonna prepare, we're gonna coach, we're gonna put the time in, and we'll show them. And we'll prove ourselves. What would be the reason why Jerry

wouldn't bring back Big Mike, you think? Like, why do you think Dio would not? You know, there's a lot of speculation out there. I think maybe Coach McCarthy wanted maybe a little bit more from a guarantee standpoint, maybe more years. I heard Troy mention this, some other people mentioned this, that maybe he wanted four or five years, Aaron, and that Jerry maybe was like, OK, we'll do two.

So maybe there was something to extract. These are all legend. No, yeah, legend. Yeah, but there's rumors hitting, like, why the Dio didn't come play. I assume Dallas Cowboys will put out their reasons I don't know if big Mike is a guy that leaks stuff doesn't feel like he is but he's on the move He's going somewhere else and Aaron might be on the move to and Devante

Might be on the move to are we calling up Jordy from the damn farm? Are we putting this thing together? We shall see Open anything attached to nothing now. Let's talk about this weekend. I know you have to go We appreciate your time tone as a question for you Aaron I know you got a lot going on but will you make it appointment viewing Sunday when the Ravens and Bills play each other? Joss and Lamar are playing each other the winner gets the MVP We've been told I think that's how it's gonna work out this year And then in your past did you have any like huge games like that where the, where it was you who, I mean for MVPs versus someone who was the second and MVP, like,

like a matchup of this magnitude? I mean, you'd have to go back and look at that. Um, in 16, I felt like maybe I should have won MVP, uh, based on the run that we had and we played in the NFC Championship, the guy that did win MVP, Matt Ryan, and he beat the hell out of us. That kind of, that determined that maybe they made the right decision there. But no, we had some good matchups over the years. Obviously, the NFC Championship against Tom was a great matchup.

They had a great team. Felt like we should have won. Obviously, we had made a lot of mistakes in that game. But I will say this. This is the problem, and I'm just prognosticating here. But big problem in the football media is what is going to happen to the loser of that game? Can't get it done. Can't get it done.

Both guys. Both guys had incredible seasons, right? Incredible season. Josh, you know, I don't know, like until the media, which has a big sway kind of jumped on the Lamar train with shit. I don't know, until the media, which has a big sway, kind of jumped on the Lamar train with, shit, I don't blame him because he had an incredible season too. But it seemed like it was Josh's MVP to win. He had a phenomenal season, arguably the best player in the league. And the other guy who would probably be in the conversation besides Saquon is Lamar Jackson. And just a little hulhum 41 and 4 Season for him

But again, they've they both haven't you know? One, you know been to a Super Bowl which is you know, everybody's measuring stick We're giving somebody there's some sort of elite status that we we have to grovel to receive from the from the media So is that right? You think it's right that way? You guys are judged by Super Bowl wins, I guess. Who gives a shit? You know, like, judged by judged by who? Me, AJ, Con Man, Ty, definitely associated press. I'm sure the Shaman judge every once in a while. Of course, the Associated Press tone though, I don't know about the shaman down there, the ayahuasca retreat, they're certainly judging and maybe in the darkness retreat. The poor ones do.

The poor ones do. But Associated Press tone is definitely judging. No doubt. That is what he's all about. I only lift up. What? Yeah. All right.

Aaron, we appreciate you so much. That's the perfect way to end this thing. You're the man. Yeah, that was great. We send positive vibes to everybody, yourself included over there in Southern California. And we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Keep going. Hey, thanks.

Thanks guys. And once again, just a big shout out to all the incredible men and women in uniform, because there was obviously incredible firefighters. There was the police who were taking care of everything. We had national guards protect in the neighborhoods from the looting. Just incredible, those are the real heroes for sure

who saved lives and houses and structures and businesses. And it's gonna be a long rebuild, like the devastation post campfire up there in Paradise and most fires in Santa Rosa and Redding and Maui obviously but a lot of love going out to anybody lost lost their homes and a lot of gratitude to everybody out there who's keeping us safe because there's so many incredible men and women who are putting their lives on the line in these crazy crazy temperature fires and and with the 80 to 100 mile an hour winds

so appreciate you guys Chuck love you brother and and and your bro as well love seeing love seeing John as well he's great man. You're putting him in retirement home so I hope you feel good about it. We appreciate you man we echo your sentiment completely obviously we're not out there so we're not as close as to it but thanks to all the people serving the community over there and I'm excited to watch the build back stronger, right? Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen. So Cal strong. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Some of those photos man. Cool. Crazy. Very crazy. All right. We appreciate you ladies and gentlemen four-time NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers All right, let's get to a break on the other side We will cover all the stories that we haven't hit yet across the entire sports world and Chuck Pagano will be making his picks For the entire weekend. Let's go. Hey and for the national championship. Wow

Remember he sucked on Thursday that is here. Yes, he did but Saturdays Sundays guy was great. That's what your words not ours We didn't know How about Mondays? How have you been on Mondays? Well, there was one recent know how about Mondays have you been on Mondays well there was one recent you know they did that counted for like two or three you said that's right Raven Steelers 35 10 Ravens Ravens Browns Browns Browns last yeah remember that exact score that was fun a lot of points, but not enough. Lucky. Very lucky.

Very hand out season for Chuck. It's not about luck. Big pack. Chuck didn't take hand outs. He's a football guy. No, he did. Uh oh. He did, I believe it was the second

to last Thursday night game. Well, the spread was changing. I'd take that as well. Lions Packers. That's a hand. Nah, it's a decisive gift. Oh, okay. It's a vibes gift that was presented to Chuck and he took it. He did. Especially with the way things are going. Good wording. 35.10 is uh. That is worth having a look. And you know what's funny?

People hate that. People actually bet that. You know what's funny? You shared that with me. That was really cool. Yes. I spent $5.30. Got like 835 or 900 bucks or something. Yeah. And then he, I guess I didn't think about it. The people that tweeted and said they did it, they were like, Chuck never gives an exact score.

So whenever I heard it, it was just like, ah, might as well put some money on that. Hits home. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. Maybe hit all four games this weekend exact scores. That's the standard Yeah, millionaire. You know what the score of the Baltimore Buffalo game was in week four. I knew this year How was it 35 10? Yeah, wait a minute. We get a nose the mentalist type situation

Let's get to a break. I played a Madden game last night Ravens bills. What's the score? No last night Ravens bills was score 35 10 no swear to god oh lord it's freaking me out Derek Henry had three times simulation holy shit speaking of Axel Harris Axel Hawk verse sections 35 wins 10 losses yeah entire sections of stadiums mm- that better against toes 35 10 had him early better buried it tucked his shirt in walked right out business has been handled deal with it took a massive shite this morning thought I lost 35 pounds. Turns out only lost 10. Oh Good

35 references that you can just kind of come off from your morning that you had here Uh, you know, my family tells me I should act like my age which is 35, but I actually act like I'm 10 All right, I like that one too all things are kind of turning up one way yeah, yeah, let's get to a break I Have an update Dan Rolofsky's kids team beat gunner and bow yesterday I think it ended up being an eight-point differential. Okay, or maybe a nine-point differential Remember read the text everybody. Yeah, you did We're down one was six to go They went on a ten one run I Said sweet you won by eight

He said or nine And I said, well, I don't know how math works anymore. I don't think and I said congrats on the win and they give a fist pound back Still don't know what the final score, I don't think. And I said congrats on the win, and they gave a fist pound back. Still don't know what the final score was. But I know it wasn't 35-10. Okay. I was gonna say. Let's call him up.

We need to get an answer on this. We need to get an answer on a couple things. Cause there's some math, exactly, who is he coaching? No, like, what was he doing dancing like that at Jennifer Lawrence's show? That's true. Oh, you're right. The internet's the greatest place on earth. I saw Dan Orlovsky getting killed cuz this guy

Dance not what getting killed. What do you mean? The guy's a good dancer. They're good. That's what the video is Yeah, but if you've seen the remarks underneath it was almost like a part of all like hey Barry Dan Orlovsky Yeah, you know, there's a lot of people been doing that lately like hey use this as an opportunity to kill somebody It's like oh great. What's that person doing? Just hanging out coaching their kids game That's right. They're doing and all sudden somebody that happens to be a basic looking white With a little Dan O'Hare, yeah, it's over. Hey, let me provide another opportunity to kill a guy There isn't enough but here's another one

I'll tell you what Dan deserved it. Yeah. That guy shouldn't look like him that much. He shouldn't. That's on Dan. Dan, Dan fucking deserves that. Shake your head, Dan. He brings a lot on himself. He tries, yeah, he lives under the hoop. That's the thing, he lives under the hoop.

Like he lives there. So every once in a while he's gonna wimpy. But every once in a while he's gonna get you a Vince Carter. And it does, it does happen to Dan. And you know what he does? He gets right back into paint. Dusts off dust off his pants oh he never stays down you bury him ten times he'll give a wild take 11 times finger there's no stop on her lost a train now sound like he really wanted to coach did you hear that yesterday was

like an interview whenever he was on yep he was laying it out I don't know what his contract status is in TV world but like an interview whenever he was on yep? He was laying it out I don't know what his contract status is in TV world, but like it felt like he was What was the unexpected doors sub tweet that he put out? That's another when you put that on to how he was speaking You're like, okay, what's going on? Shit so annoying It's gotta be nothing much you fart that much on TV I'll say my outs gotta be nothing much you fart that much on TV. I'll say Let's get to a break he did not answer what's his deal? What's that?

What's a quick shout out of course yes Constance yeah, wait is this palates is it January 16th? Sis lost her house. Oh, no, she lives in Palisades. 40 years there. Good shout out man. So shout out to Constance. Gumpy, if you want to say some bull crap. That would be condolence is not a shout out. Right next door to Aaron, right there by Malibu. We would like to let Connie know that we are so sorry that that happened to her and many others.

To be clear, I think Connor and myself thought a positive thing was coming. Like another birthday. A shout out usually isn't something like that. Maybe a bingo hole victory for the first time. Here's the positive, right? She's getting $750 from Joe Biden. Already moving forward. Like, okay, look, we've got our lives,

we've got our health, we've got our kids. Life's good. It's a material thing you can rebuild. You can start over. Connie, we love you. Good luck, Connie. That's what I'm thinking. That's not an easy mindset.

Not everybody's gonna be able to have that immediately, but that's why she's an absolute G. I do not envy anybody. There she is. Great sumo wrestler America's ever had. Domo arigato. Domo. Constance Pagano.

Yes. Domo arigato, Constance Pagano. Domo arigato, Constance Pagano. Yes. Tomo arigato, Constance Pagano. Tomo arigato, Constance Pagano. Ohio, Constance. Good morning, I believe. Japanese. Do not touch my mustache. No.

That got us in trouble. I don't know what that means. Do not touch my mustache. Is that what it was? It sounded like they were saying, do not touch my mustache. You said sayonara. So I just started saying it to everybody. write down sign are that plays over there no

Their language sounds nothing like ours no no at all yeah I'd say and it reads nothing like ours either over there no so you hear something that sounds like what you're saying It's almost like what my 21 month old is doing now sure she makes the sounds of what the words are all of them Dropped the no shit the other day was awesome. I've never seen I've never been more like Proper usage right there. Yes, you know, I don't know if she knew what it was, right? But she you know, she's doing the sounds that was very much what it was like over in Japan with Japanese Because I was trying to embrace these people. They're not they are not talkers outside their house. No It is a very quiet society

I was trying to really have a good time over there and embrace it and trying to talk. And I'm a communicator, I think. And the words were tough. The words were tough. But one of the translators sent me in there. I thought I was saying one thing. I was saying something else.

He gave you a bomb. Well, no, because I'm an American in Japan. So that would, that is still, that is still. Yeah, no, because I'm an American in Japan so that would uh, that's that is still Give us a lot of warnings actually do not go to here. There are still some do not go here and obviously we had Directly there had a great time. It was beautiful country beautiful culture Yeah, legitimately unbelievable people are much nicer to us than I think they were telling us they were gonna be to us I think a lot of people were expecting them to not be in it. I We go along well over there. I think it's your pan

I think we made some real friends label you ever seen a place so like as many people that live there clean and how Clean and how much order there is? I mean there is no BS going on and there's no car. There's no cops There's no there's nobody right. I mean everybody just minds their own business to your point about not Talking they had the mask on long before they were required All right, everybody was wearing them all and you talk about no cops Thank God cuz Chuck kicked the door down to one of the bars. So yeah, I mean we got out of there quickly I don't think we earned any friends in that particular establishment, but we found another We got a lot did we ever we found a few?

that particular establishment but we found another we got a lot did we ever we found a few I don't know some sake a lot of sake sake hey hey quail eggs and sake that's yes I talk about seeing some well the door what's that brother you drink sake cold or hot I've had it both both there's also a rattlesnake moonshine well though in those bottles. Venom. That 100, yeah. All those bottles had the snake in them. Yeah.

Fucking wild. Yeah, it was wild shit. I mean, there was some wild shit over there, and I feel like they were taking advantage just because we were dumb Americans. But we went on board with it, and we had a great time. I'll go back. How about a content family there?

Yeah, we met up with an uncle. He's working in the stock market over there because it's 12 hours ahead And we're 16 hours ahead or something like that So normally the Japanese market is a good indicator on what's gonna happen in the United States market So he was over there in Tokyo. I mean it was crushing it. I feel like we learned a lot He took us to a local sushi place. I mean it was that was good. We got good boozed up there Yeah, we are pretty the ride over. I think we Had a train ride that took forever. Yeah, pretty fucked up pretty much everywhere. We were sure we should go

We did our thing us. Oh, which was great to see all the military the military families are living over there Which is a lot. We got a lot of people in japan. We had an entire island in japan down there uh the families of Those who are serving living a completely backwards life, feels like that USO trip is one where they're actually appreciative that American culture is there. I think some USO tours you go on, they're not necessarily thrilled that they have to come meet. They're in the middle of some, we are not at necessarily. But this one was a lot, I think for the families, because it was a piece of American Culture was over there even people that weren't Colts fans

We're like happy to see some American culture and then as we were transporting to the next town or next city We certainly wanted to wanted to say hello to the locals sure yes, and we did we did gotta get a feel for it I don't understand what she was don't know if I'm gonna get that Yeah, Godzilla Anthony Castanzo you should have seen him over there Had to understand what the culture was. Don't know if I'm gonna get back. Godzilla. Tweets so much. Godzilla. Yeah, Godzilla, Anthony Costanzo. You should have seen him over there. Mm-hmm. What's this one? Yeah. He's abnormal where we come from too.

And then we just kept it rolling. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might be able to clarify some things. Dan Olusky. Dan. Dan, how you doing, bub? I'm great, how are you? I'd be much better if you answered some questions. Thank you for taking the time here.

It looks like you're in transport from one television show to the next. And we talked about you coaching in the NFL potentially next year. And then you chatted about your coaching championship game last night. And I texted with you, I told the boys, you said you were down one with six to go. Then go on a 10-1 run and I said oh you

win by eight and then you said or nine and then we said nonetheless congratulations on a big-time win you guys stuffed Boeing Gunner how do Orlovsky boys play and how much did you actually win by because I don't think I understand the math equation enough yeah wasn't a championship game it was just undefeated versus undefeated. Oh, okay. You just kind of getting started. I don't think I, I don't think I said championship.

I just said big game. No, it wasn't too. No, I didn't. I never said it was a championship game. Kind of feel like it was champion. Everybody kind of thought it was champion. I think AJ, you thought it was championship match. Yeah. Yeah, I did thought it was championship match. Yeah. Yeah talks a table

Championship game in gene like barely early James. Oh, yeah, you're right. They don't like weekend tournaments Yeah, that isn't a shirt and t-shirt. Well, it wasn't a weekend. It was a Wednesday Yeah, but that's where the championship is because it was decided on a weekend obviously. Yeah, so midweek more eyes on his film Bo had some success. He had some good reverse layups. Um, And some deals up and unders Yeah, yeah, that was that was his go-to move. It was frustrating. Uh gunner

Gunner had some good shots, but I do think defensively as a team. We did a solid job gunner, um My sons nulla stunk No, he wasn't he wasn't strong enough with the ball In my opinion Played hard he played hard for moments, but I think you could play harder hunter played hunter played his rear end off 3&d guy played very good defensively As your boy, I think I I don't it was either

42 to 33 Or 43 to 32. It's one of those. Okay. Well that would be 11 or 9 Neither of them would be 8 which is the math that you gave me immediately after the game, but nonetheless We are very happy. How about Hendrix and Ari? Ari put up a couple good shots Ari could hoop now. That kid could hoop. The only downside is he's got to work on his perimeter game He's got to work on his perimeter game, but he can get to the right couple euro steps by him Ooh Hendrix Hendrix was who I thought he was just plays really really good Hendrix was who I thought he was. He just plays really, really good. Has to advertise.

Hustles to the ball. Not a scoring threat though right now. Not a scoring threat, but plays his tail off. Well all these boys are obviously going to get better because of good coaching. After yesterday's announcement to the world that you're definitely going to get into coaching next year if you get the opportunity, has any more people called you and what are your thoughts on it? Has any more people called you and what are your what are your thoughts on it? Did you change in such a position with these man

Hashtag I Have had one more person reach out since that moment. I guess I haven't spoke to them It was just a brief text message and I have to call them Brady I still I still feel the same way what they say. Hey man, I heard your offensive playbook is going to be all the good plays and none of the bad plays. Why doesn't everybody do that? You want to come to join our team? Is that what they said? Verbatim. No, they just said, hey, are you seriously entertaining coaching? And I responded back with, yeah, it's something I'm interested in. And they said, uh, can we talk today? And I said, sure.

All right. Excited to hear how that goes. Hopefully you'll keep us updated. The world you'll sub tweet your way through it, hopefully. Congrats to your or Lovsky boys. Noah, let's tighten it up. Come on. Lots of season left, brother.

That's pissed at you, dude. I've seen the Hunter way to go. I gotta get Noah. I gotta get Noah to play hard all the time. He's still like, he's still kind of just at moments, does it at moments. I'm like, what are we doing, dude? Hey, you're the teacher, they're allowing it. That's right. Smack him around. Give me a little explode. I said to him last night, this is part of your resume. That's right. That you know,

Chuck, Chuck's former coach. Coach, I told them last night during a play where he didn't do what I, you know, kind of that stressed he didn't get on the ground for loose ball. And I looked at him. I said, either get on the ground or get off the court. I like that. He's that old. They're cryable.

What are you doing? You crawled off the court, rolled off the court or did he stay on? He stay on her. He's, he's pretty good with like that stuff. He's don't, I can't do that to Hunter because Hunter will, you know, still kind of get too emotional about it. He's pretty good. Like, all right, you know, he gets into the right mindset after that. You got to, you got to coach each person individually. Exactly. You got to be able to reach everyone. I appreciate that. Hopefully more people will understand that you're ready to

coach because last night, bone gunner had no shot. They knew it. They knew it going in and there's a lot of season left. Congrats on still being undefeated. Even though you misled us all to think it was a championship We're still happy about an early season Wednesday win. Oh for your boys. Ladies and gentlemen, what's that? Hey, tell D but D butt just texted me saying where's seatbelt? You should go point Not driving I'm not driving you can so what you can kill everybody if you don't have a seatbelt on the car. Not you, but you could. In your own car. I don't know how you would do it because their body...

If your body flew up and chopped the drivers head off. You still die in the back seat or the back seat. Break everybody's neck. AQ, very thankful for the seatbelt. Now granted, you can actually see the seatbelt welt across his entire stomach around his body. And then you see bruising, almost looks internally. Yeah, bad.

Bad bruising around the rest of his stomach because a drunk driver smoked him last week whenever he got home back to Phoenix. AQ? Airbags, the whole thing, yeah. Good boy. And it looks nasty. It looks very, very nasty.

Oh my gosh. I've never been a seatbelt wearer. OK, never. Because when I was younger, one of my friend's uncles died in a crash because he couldn't get the seatbelt off. It was actually melted. It was a fire. So I heard that.

And then every time I hear somebody be like, well, seatbelt saves your lives, I'm like, well, I actually heard. I know, guys. There is a situation where it was the complete opposite that happened so I always thought about that but then like you know you hear these stories like a Q shares a story and then somebody else's story then something happens that like a game day person in story it's like now with my daughter I fucking put that thing on and every time

I put it on it's like it's real like it's first time in my life I put it on I always go yeah I'm wearing a seat belt I always feel like I'm an adult now. You can't do it. Obviously. All right, we understand We understand you trust the driver. I guess trust the driver. I'm bad at it, too I'm bad at it. I'm bad at it me too I actually had it in and around the back of the seat So I didn't even have to feel it and I didn't have to hear the beeping That's why I used to be now every time click it up Clicker to feel it and I didn't have to hear the beeping. That's what I used to be. Now, every time. Click it up.

Clicker ticket brother. Boom. I don't love that that became a rule. I don't think they should be looking for more reasons to pull people over. I don't think that's a thing anymore. It isn't, yeah, it's a secondary ticket. Okay, good, but I'm sure they can find a primary reason

to get you on the- Like a different thing. Look, phones are primary now. I'm not sure. Phones, phones are not- Distracted driving is a big topic of conversation. Not good at that now. Yeah, sure. Phones. Phones are now. Distracted driving is a big topic of conversation. Not good at that either.

I'm curious. I ride motorcycles, you know? So I see, like you actually see into cars, and it's like, if you're in a two lane and you can see in the car, phone, it's like, we're either gunning this by them or we are not going to... It's like we're either gunning this by them. Yeah, or we are we are not gonna you can tell like when people are I Want to say like a ticking time, but almost leaning, you know And it's like we do got to get better as a society so we can all continue to enjoy All the benefits of technology that we have so let's continue. It was all fucking up and let's stop drunk driving

Okay, let's wear our seat belts so we stay alive for our family If that's how you feel let's enjoy this life all right coach we appreciate you man yeah boys all right dude throw a shock at your way too bro shush later why were you dancing at that show earlier yeah Jennifer Hudson show what were you doing on You're good, man Yeah, you got moved that video. Is that that video? That's everyone tacking me in type name. Yeah They're not just tagging. They're also supporting your grooving brother. You got good knee bend. I'll say yeah

We have that yeah, I'm sure we can pull it up. Where are you doing? I missed it. Down in Tyson. How'd the appearance go? Was it a typical white? There it goes. Look at the knee bend. Your hips feel great. Go earlier, go ahead. Get the whole thing. Yeah, there's a little bit more to it. There it is, Perry.

Let me hear it. Hey, hey. Make a noise. Hey. Oh, wow, they are good for you, good for me, good for us. Daniel Orlowski. Yeah, hey, team.

I think, I don't know if he was necessarily pumped that he was gonna do this didn't look at the camera one time kind of Stayed away from it a little shy away, but absolutely killed it. There's data on the way out I'm gonna feel alive every day. I was hands right into Jennifer Hudson show. Hey, hey Oh, hey, all right Dan think about that. We got a little good We don't know who that is. He's an actor from Abbott Elementary. I believe great show that shows a good one That's got Joel on it Yeah, Abbott Elementary Joel. Yeah, Joel's hit it Joel Now there's only three Joel's there's joke Joel clatt Joel Austin and then Joel Joel McHale that bingo

Thank you. He's on Abbott Elementary. He's not Type of show though. I love Joel McHale. He was on for Washington on game day. Correct. Came in full body paint, dog. Yes. Yes. Yes.

And I picked up a dog, I think. Yeah. Not his dog. No, the Husky. Yeah, and held, and they got paint on dog legend. So he's not in Abbott Elementary? He is not. No.

Who is in Abbott Elementary? That guy. That guy. The creator is Quinta Brunson. It's won a bunch of awards. So, yeah, it's nobody you would know. Oh, have you seen Parent Trap with Lindsey Lohan? I have, I have seen that. You know Jessie? The one who is like Dennis Quaid's like housekeeper? Yes. She's in that. Okay. Parent Trap's a good movie. Housekeeper has a great role. Very important role in that entire movie is the housekeeper. There you go. Parent Trap's a good movie. Yeah. Housekeeper has a great role. He does. Very important role in that entire movie is the housekeeper.

Yeah, there she is. Lisa Ann Walter. Yep. Bingo. That is her. Yep. Huge role in Parent Trap. Without a doubt.

I do remember that. I say I'm Walter. So there actually isn't a white guy in the show. Yeah, Chris Perfetti, the guy who's dancing. Chris Perfetti. That's not, so I was way off. I mean, I wasn't even close to guessing somebody in this particular. No, no. Joel McHale does have a show on Fox though. This is an NBC show. Of course it is

Dana watch get into acting instead of coaching. We need you out there, especially with those dance moves. We appreciate you, man Not happen later are you on NFL live today or we got more tick tocks to make If I live and then sports dinner at six. All right, well, hang loose, bro. Cross your bro. Good luck, bro. Throw that thing at you. My damn loss.

You got this, bro. Damn loss. Certainly had us believing that was a championship game last night. Yeah. Only reason why we asked about Gunnar and Bo and Hendrix and Ari is because we wanted another championship lineup.

Yeah. Sorry, now we're following the season with these boys. Yep. Exactly. No one hunter needs to tighten it up. Hey, let's win an addy, boys. I don't even know if that's possible at that age and what level they're at, but let's win this thing. I'm pulling for them.

Bo and Gunner are coming back stronger if I know anything about them. No doubt. Yep. A lot of season left for Bo and Gunner. Based on what he said about- Get on the floor or get off? I like that. Based on what he said about Hendrix, that kid's's gonna be a fucking wrestler defense yeah yeah he ain't gonna be a basketball player so he should have fun while he can they're still trying to learn their way

yep you know basketball will certainly teach him something that will help him in whatever sport he goes into or maybe he becomes uh goes to work an assassin yeah he could maybe we don't know that already we know already he's the best player in the team We know Dan keeps shading him for some reason and won't like we have to ask him to keep bringing him up I think it's cuz he and Hunter potentially play similar roles on the team, but Ari Name like that Can I go? All right, let's get to a break. We're back on the other side Chuck. We're gonna We'll pick all the games this weekend football I'm excited to hear it. Yeah

This should be good I'm excited. I've done a lot of research Can't see him behind our stack of papers, but he's got a bunch of papers to a full notebook How many notebooks this year I? think for Chase for a 500-grab yeah You know what question I want to ask Dan cheese Louise lease. What's that? And I'll ask you boys question Do you think the text was from a guy that's currently employed as a head coach or one?

That's possibly Martin Davis. I assumed Mark Davis was the text to Dan Yeah, cuz somebody trying to put a But somebody put a staff together to pitch the staff. Yeah, because somebody trying to put a staff together. I don't know if you can answer, but. Somebody putting a staff together to pitch the staff. Yeah. Or somebody have a hole in their staff. My guess would be one of the newbies. Or maybe somebody that's going to lose a guy. I think.

To a job. That's only two options, right? Hey, Dan Rolofsky is back. Hey, Chuck has a question for you. You can obviously choose not to answer it. So the text that you got, I was just curious, was that from a coach that's currently employed as a head coach or one that possibly is gonna be employed

as a head coach? He would be one that has the potential to become employed as one. Okay, so they're like pitching staffs, trying to see what the staff would be. Have you gotten messages from people that have a staff and maybe lose a position coach? Yes.

Okay good. Whole climate in Wisconsin potentially. Alright we appreciate you. I can get you a mansion. Before you make that decision call me. Yeah well he's gone. He don't want to hear it coach. You got 36 years of coaching football. Why the fuck would he want your advice? He's just hung up on your face.

Yeah. What if it was Lambeau though? What if it was Lambeau trying to see if he wants to be the OC in North Carolina? I know they respect each other. They got one. They got one. He hired Freddie Kitchens.

Who? Oh, he did. They retained him. Oh, he retained him. Yeah, he retained Freddie, I think. At North Carolina? Yeah. Man, I just judged for Daniels right there, I don't think he's the OC though. No I read that ain't coming to it. Who?

Olavsky I heard you just say Josh McDaniels that ain't happen now. I'm talking about that in North Carolina I said to Lombardi Josh McDaniels potentially gonna be available depending upon what happens up in New England or other places I didn't know they kept Freddie kitchens down there down there once again There's me just fucking saying something disrespectful without knowing it. Yeah, I don't think he's OC either. Okay, good good He's big big fella, too Well, he's I don't know how big miles is I didn't know who miles teller was I had to look him up So I learned about him on Top Gun, but he's a child star. I guess from way back I did not know I didn't watch any of the game which I didn't play any games You know, I didn't do that. I don't know if he's it. Is he a child?

Was he a child? Yeah, I mean he was in movies when he was young I guess but I don't think he was on like Nickelodeon Was he? No, but like he's like a teenager. He started Not was he in wasn't Mickey Mouse Clubhouse Project X was probably that's the one. Yeah played Miles Teller Yeah, he played himself, but he wasn't like a big-time superstar at the time. No But he was in a lot of shit that what was the one he talked about that awkward moment? Yeah Yeah, he mentioned that movie all the time. I've never seen mid 20s late 20s who watched that movie was that a kid's movie? No, we were in like probably after college. So he's not a child star. No, is it a rom-com? Yeah Yeah, I'd say wrong. Yeah

What's a rom-com romantic comedies? You don't know what McConaughey did for 10 years that awkward moment was 2014 Vince Vaughn Matthew McConaughey I thought that was like yeah, what'd you think it was? That's what you think that is one of the gags I'm not gonna say anything bad about Myles teller. I don't want to be walking through a deal with a neck brace on well Listen, he will look bad if he fought a guy in a neck brace, especially after all coming out of Hawaii I knew that and if you fought Joe Pagano in a neck brace, geez. Yeah, I'd be a tough look

Could you imagine Chris Pratt and Miles Teller, though, just both fighting me at that moment? I mean, I walked in, it could have been a more worst-timing group of celebrities of all time. I was when Chris Pratt was trading for the Terminalist, too. So he was strapped up. He was down right there. And that was the first thing I'd seen of Chris Pratt

was Jurassic World. Then I watched the Terminalist with Jack Carr, Jack Carr and I'm like wow I love this guy It's a great human of all time. I wish I'd go back in time. That's all me didn't watch a lot of movies Didn't watch a lot of shows Books not really my thing either So I'm learning as we go a lot of good people out there Chris Pratt's great. Yes. He's great actor Yeah, it's Marl war also a great one on Amazon. What was the one where he was here in Indiana? Parks and Rec. That was his start. Yeah, and he's like the best part of that show.

Absolutely. He was the, he was homeless, right? Didn't they say he was homeless? Yeah, he's like the... For a part, parts of it. Yeah, he lived in a hole for a little bit. His life. Jovial fat guy. Oh, in real life, yeah, he was in Hawaii, just like living in like a van on the beach down there Yeah, and it costs a lot of money to get to Hawaii So you make that decision to do that which is kind of not really doing much. No, yeah You're life you were becoming superstar. He worked at Bubba Gump and like kept making He was a waiter and he kept making some girl laugh and she was like a big-time like talent exec in LA and she was Like hey, you should leave here and move to LA

That's all she wrote. Yeah, legit Congrats Chris Brad. Sorry for disrespecting Jurassic world I think you watch that you knew where I was coming from. I think that actually happened. I don't think he's in a new one Yeah, I'm not doing that again. He's married to Arnold's daughter. It's got us to this is Schwarzenegger They have a kid Really? They have a kid. How's Arnold? I saw him walking the other day. They canceled the Super Bowl commercial with Allstate or State Farm.

Yeah, because of everything that's going on. Let's get to a break. Aaron was starting to dive into that. It was. Yeah. There was a couple, I'm not even going to get into that. I've been listening to all of it for the last three, four days coming out of there. Bill Byrd did it a bit last night.

It's a lot. With leadership out there. It's crazy. Well, it's just like when COVID happened, like, um, your local positions, like back in the day, mayor, what are you taking care of? Uh, potholes. Yeah. Some other, in most cities. Now I'm not talking about LA.

LA is vastly different. Obviously LA is got a lot going on, but in most cities it it's like what are you normally dealing with on day to day? Let's cut ribbon here. Let's do some initiatives for a schooling Uh build a field let's build a house. Maybe a shelter. How let's do that type and then covid happened and now the spotlight was on Now local leadership meant more than ever And I think a lot of people saw a lot of things and were like, How is this happening and then here this takes place and it's like well, how's this? I don't every time seemingly there's been a lot of people that have failed to test And when it comes to that particular thing, but then we got to remember

There's probably some people somewhere that do not get highlighted that are doing great work that are in public service Even in LA right now as they're continuing to try to figure it all out So let's remember there's always good in everything, even though there's always gonna be assholes. We have to remember that in life, you know? Some people think we're the assholes. Sure. There's way more good than terrible, but the terrible ones just stick out more. Negativity hogs the publicity, but let's never forget that there's heroes that walk amongst us. For every bad thing there's somebody good or a group of people good trying to combat it. That's always happening. But this one is always going to be talked about more. We're lucky to be

alive let's never forget it. We thank everybody that runs into the dangers as opposed to running away from it. It's wonderful that's AJ Hawk the toxic tables here at boss of Connor and that's I Schmidt what happened the hammer damn Cowboys AP tone is here are you worried about your AP votes officially being released to the public and the decisions that you made the careers that you potentially altered pal no no I did the work I did my due diligence. I feel really good about everything. I like that.

Hell yeah. Stand by it. That does. Strong. SOB. SOB. Mm-hm. Let's go to the other half of the hammer.

Done. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino. Gumpy, how you feeling, pal? All is well. Great day to be alive. National championship on Monday, divisional round over the next couple days. This is a great time to be a football fan. Juiced up. How about the Dolphins? We stink. It is what it is. It's next year is I said it this year but

next year is officially make or break. If you don't make the playoffs you don't win a playoff game. Mike McDaniel will be gone. Tule possibly gone. It'll be a start all over again. There's a chance that that's the same thing with Colts. There's a chance. We're not 100% sure, but there's a chance that it is a make or break year. You would think that that would have happened already a few different times, but now it feels like we are definitely in one of those. A man who used to be the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, 36 years in the football

coaching world, 18 in college, 18 in the NFL, Chuck Pagani is here. Chuck, the coaching cycle is obviously, is it one of high anxiety for people or is this great opportunity you think if you're a coach sitting around the NFL right now? As far as like if you're one of the guys that's potentially got one of these jobs or you're out of work and you're trying to get a... So, Dan Orlovsky right there said that somebody who's potentially putting together a staff has potentially reached out to him to see if he would like to be a part of it or whatever And they're going to talk today and more how many different people with quarterback position is a head coach potentially sending texts to To find out how many quarterback coaches have they're just trying to get a sense and a feel of hey if I was to get a job

Would you come with me? What is the likelihood of that part of the selling point when you go into interview for these jobs? Is one of the biggest factors is like who's going to be your OC, who's going to be your DC. If you're not necessarily a head coach that's going to call one side of it, you're a defensive guy or an offensive guy, so you're going to have to have a list that you've put together and you've had a list of names and people that you've worked with, some that you haven't, but you've vetted a ton of people and you need to go in in there with probably three or four names at each spot, because you're obviously like,

you've got A, you've got B, you've got C, you've got D. And that's coordinator spots, special teams, assistants, every spot on defense, every position, spot on offense. Because you're going to have to go in and sell yourself, you're going to have to go in and sell your vision your identity what your culture is gonna look like all that kind of stuff but then okay who's the staff who's gonna be you know if you're if you're a defensive guy you're going into Chicago the main thing that Warren and Poles and those guys are gonna want to know is like

okay who's the OC who's a quarterback coach and who's gonna get this dude okay to where we need him need him to be we would hope that's what they're looking for We don't know if that's case it is the Chicago Bears true true no offense to Chicago Bears But I think Chicago Bears fans understand that that is a very reasonable question to ask at this standpoint at Viva Lazido Is that accurate? Very accurate. Yes. Yeah, we would hope that that was potentially be what they're looking at But they might get wild by something else. never know. No, it's Chicago. They're asking around. I mean they wanted to interview Marcus Freeman They did you know, they want to do all this cool zany stuff. I saw they did David Shaw the other day Oh really? I like David Shaw obviously had a great run up there at Stanford

I believe and then you know Marcus Freeman near Chicago. Yeah a lot Irish in Chicago, right, you know potentially Locational type thing but also maybe Marcus Freeman's agent Yeah, yeah, which is also weird smart. That'd be smart Marcus Freeman. Just signed a four-year extendo Yeah, big ol this year Not sure if you guys heard about big Mike last night ate about 72 ounces of steak after his interview with the Bears Okay with by himself for it was family style, but he took the whole steak down himself. Dickus?

Okay, it was family style. Who was all there? All Bears, uh, brass. Okay, so after the interview, let's go get a steak. And Big Mike says, sounds good to me. And he walks over there and he cleans out the family style, the spread out. He cleans it out, yeah. They had it chopped up on a plate in front of everybody.

Hey, let's go ahead and pass around that's mine he me that's all bear yeah that's how we're doing around here you want a guy who wants to use steak right that's what we're looking for he impressed the brass by that yes yeah the brass were impressed by the steak eating yes man this guy's a real carnivore man hire him maybe that's why they've stung for so long hey this guy can eat a bunch of fucking steak he's in Caleb think Caleb was impressed higher. Maybe that's why they've stung for so long. Hey this guy can eat a bunch of fucking steak He's in Caleb. I think Caleb was impressed cuz to me that's the guy that Calling the shots right now and what he wants you think Caleb Williams is calling the shots at Chicago

You saw the podcast he was on right the st Brown brothers podcast where he's talking about this that and the other what he's looking for no I like I was laying in bed with his head up against the pillow on the backboard of what I mean Posture Chuck I was laying in bed with his head up against the pillow on the backboard of what I mean You be one like We pull I've not seen this he's laid out like, you know pillows like he just got out of damn bed Like he's still in bed. It's three and a half. He's in between two days three days. Maybe he's getting better You don't know what time they filmed it Yeah, he also doesn't know what time it is cuz all he is is in between first workout and third work

That's all he asked him. What do you want? What are you looking for in the next head coach? And he gave an answer. He basically said babe a big answer. He said Ben Johnson essentially So this is kind of the thing because I remember in hard knocks Remember he was telling Roma doons a how he wanted to routes run and Keenan I want I need you to do this I'm like that's how an NFL quarterback supposed to act. Yes So it's a little early for that do you even know the off like do you even know where you want this person? How do you know that's where you want this person? You? You don't even know the

You don't even know the offense yet. So I thought while this guy's massively confident This guy knows what he wants or dumb this guy's rich Charlie could be the case we don't know yet we don't know yet but I think there's a lot of him like studying how others act you know how like other quarterbacks act on his phone I think he has his goals is to chase Tom Brady yeah so he watches how Tom Brady maybe acted at the end of his career, or Aaron Rodgers acted at the end of his career, or these guys that he has mass-paid manning at the end of his career,

as opposed to what it is to get to that point. Personally, that's what I felt like I was watching whenever I was seeing the way he was acting off the field. And then I thought, well, maybe this guy's more professional than anybody else's ever been, because he's the highest paid NIL guy of all time. Remember, he was starting a fund? He was starting an investment fund and and he was telling like all these things I was watching like this guy's acting

like he's in his 18th year in the league already. That's good. He wanted to part ownership. We don't know if he said that. That came from the family allegedly but their sources within the whole thing. But then you see how the season goes and then you hear how things are being said, and how it all unravels. It's like, I think he potentially got a nice little wake up call potentially to what the NFL is, what the NFL football style is,

what professional football is as he goes forward. Then you tell me that he gives us the answer on what he wants for the head coach. I guess it's three minutes and 41 seconds. So we're definitely not running that. But the fact that he gave a 221 second answer on what he wants as a head coach this guy's decisive he knows he's decisive he knows what he's looking for I think a lot of people would say you don't fucking know shit okay you know you don't know you don't know shit

I think a lot of people would say football football people would say hey you don't know shit so like Well, I'm not seeing him bears, you know, that's the counterpoint I don't know, you know, I don't know in the clip though, too He also says like he says he would like it offensive mind. You would want a young guy You want someone that could stick with them for like 10 15 years? He never really says Ben, but obviously like with a man Rob there He's like Hughes at it, but through the whole thing like he says selfishly I would want this but the team probably wants something else. Got it okay and I was

ended it with okay so he goes Ben Johnson yeah if that happens yeah but then if it's not well it is what it is yeah that is what he said. Chuck you're so mad about this. It sounds like you are not so mad about this. Chuck hated it. It sounds like you are not very thrilled about this particular interview. This is the phrase of the franchise. You're that dude, so you have to understand the responsibility that comes with that, and it's not the response, it's just not going on the St. Brown brother pod. It's a good show.

It's a good show. I appreciate that. I love those two dudes. I was on it one time earlier this this year Well, so must you want a hell of a job because it was one and done. Yeah, well, and I love the same There's a lot of podcasts that are like that that just at once your guess You know you kind of move on you're on it Chuck Pagano episode there with the Amon Ross St. Brown brothers excited to Excited to listen. What's the other it's uh, what's just they just had me on a little deal

You know a bet deal like giving prop bets. Their dad. Their dad is you. Yeah. Yeah. Bodybuilder. Yeah. Those guys.

These guys are doing squats like at an age like you're not supposed to do squats. In their mom and Olympian too? Hard worker. Yeah. Like, the traits that you're looking for. Got them. Feels like they got them. Does Caleb?

We shall see. He also, Caleb did get duped by the fake Ben Johnson texting him saying like hey Just let you know. I'm gonna take the job and Caleb fell for it hook line sinker. There's a fake See what about Karma's real, you know, just just shut up and work Well is the bear 36 years as a football coach Chuck Magano standing at an age of What you tell me?

How are you? 64 okay shut up and work is his take on the entire situation I think there's probably a lot of I'm all for guys having a platform. I agree and using it But when it becomes a distraction to the head coach and every part of the organization and front off whoever Virginia mccasky she doesn't she's 102 years old. She don't need to hear that. She can't She was dialed into this one Yes, she you've been in there Is it as big a dumpster dumpster fire as it seems because like it has for quite some time felt like an absolute shit show

Get the right Leader in there and you got yourself something. It's one of the most I mean they started playing ball there. It was Curly Lambo and George Howe's completely completely irrelevant to what I'm asking. Is it a complete? There so right now and when you were there or no, no Just not gonna football You got to make like good decisions at certain, you know, yeah every every day I mean is there organizational alignment as we have said the last few times regarding team they have a

President I think and Warren they have a General manager in polls. They're looking for a head coach So when you look at ownership and you look at president you look at you know General manager those things you you've got the pillars in place now the right pillars. We're gonna find out. Okay So now Kevin Warren's an interesting cat. I Assume he's had to do something to get the gigs that he gets the phone. Sure. He's a master That was amazing on hard knocks. I did appreciate listening to the former Big Ten commissioner

Lay out how sweets should have because he watched our rescue with John Taffer correct a couple times Which would be a good these not a bad I mean he is a bad teacher not a bit chappers the guy to let you know Yeah, so you know but it's up. You got a funnel in here. You know bad energy bad vibes. I fucking hey That show bar rescue got me through a couple training camps Yeah that and pawn stars just binging right through them. Well run what a run both those shows head. What a run You still watching squiggy? It's been tough. It's been tough for me to get going on. That's it. Is that season two? Yeah. I never finished. I watched a couple episodes of

the first one. So the issue I'm having is I watched the reality show game of squid games. Is that Mr. Beast? No. No that's all another one. Netflix did one. They did like a game show squid games. Lady ended up winning a rock-paper-scissors you remember? It was off Mai. Mai, the guy that she was playing against was like, I was just throwing random. And she was.

Yeah, she was like a CIA analyst. Yeah, she was actually beating him, gets the key. So I'm struggling with remembering what last season was versus what Mai's run was in Squid Games games and then also you put on top of it that It's clearly dubbed. It's been hard for me getting a season two. Yeah, I can't do the dubs to your point I have to just watch and read really so you're reading the whole season. Oh, yeah, cuz I can't do the dog You're reading all season. Yeah, I did for the first season. I haven't started the second yet, but I'll do that again I've done it for a couple shows. How do you know? Korean. Korean. What do you mean?

I don't know what the... The dub kind of stinks so I might have to switch to the... The dubbed is terrible in all those shows It definitely changed. Is the first one dubbed? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't read a whole season. No way I guess I haven't seen any of it then. If you do it that way though, like you can't read a whole season no way I guess I haven't seen any of it then if you do it that way though Like you can't watch it like if you're at all tired or like you're in bed or like about like you can't watch it because you just You'll miss so much shit like you actually have to be locked in and like commit like okay I'm gonna watch this episode right now. So the issue is the dub Acting has to be good and then the acting acting has to be good, correct So now we got a couple different people that need to figure it out while I'm watching and there's been a few

Deliveries of some lines I assume in some key moments where I'm like I can't take the socks I will say that dub this year is a lot better because they obviously did it for the American Watchers Compared like season one when it was just made for Korean. It's kind of redundant But I watch it dubbed with the subtitles on. Definitely. So I'm reading it. Yeah, we do that. And I'm hearing the dub,

and I'm not focusing on the mouth mismatching the dub. And I normally don't do that with shows, but I've been able to do it with this one, and it's helped. I have captions on everything, just in case, just to catch what's potentially happening. I like having captions too. But I have to hear though, I have to, I wouldn't be able to do the

Korean and then English there. I would not be able to it's awesome I've done I mean Grinch I've done this for now Shogun because Shogun's like a reader, right? Yeah, I mean I don't and you are a reader as well. Shogun was all dubbed So you guys are much better readers than I am. I think I can't keep up with everything makes you a better reader I think having closed caption on there makes you better reader get. It forces you to at least do it and look at it. Internet videos need the... No doubt. Need the...

Big time. Yeah. You might as well not put a video on the internet without them. I mean, we do everyday live clipping, but any video that we make that isn't live, it's like, has to have the caption on it. Cause there's people that can't have sound where they are

and just kinda wanna read it, see what the hell happened. I haven't had sound on for years years. If I accidentally do startling Yeah that little With the the brightness in there. Yeah, that's a good edge. That was a good development. Yeah Having to hold that thing down. Yeah, one of their best ones. I Haven't I have the new phone. I haven't opened the box. I'm worried to do the whole transition Having to hold that thing down before. Yeah, one of their best ones. I have the new phone. I haven't opened the box. I'm worried to do the whole transition.

Oh, God, that can be a nightmare. So especially when you're 100 years old. Yeah. It's not like you know me. No, but that's why you have kids and someday you're going to be sitting in my seat, my shoes and Mackenzie is going to be the one walking you through everything. No, because we grew up in the tech technology. Yeah, but there's gonna be something new.

The kids are ahead of it. You think we had our tech boom for our generation? I mean, yeah, just like thinking about the booms. You'll never be on par with your kids though. Kids will always be ahead. Technology wise. My daughter, 21 months, she knows how to open the thing, put the code in, find out. I mean, she's not even two years old yet, and she knows exactly where,

and if she can't figure it out, she's grabbing my hand and moving it to the place where, hey, need to scroll this thing. She doesn't have the ability to scroll. It is wild watching her pick it up like that. And there's a lot of, I've seen a lot of people on the internet say, well, she has too much screen time. She already knows that. I don't think it It's like I created a business off my phone

So I'm very okay with my daughter. It's a big high horse situation. Yeah, but also to your high horse I will I will I will grandstand back if we're gonna do this My daughter understanding how to navigate social media and the internet in tech is a massive advantage in the world that we are in right now. So acting like it's a negative, which I can see how it would be, but I think the negative would be if she isn't proficient at this type of shit. So that's a tough, that's a tough little game that is going to make it a positive. You got to like, let's make this is the world you're growing up in. How do we make it a positive for you and the negative?

If you can like if your kids can sit there and edit videos at 10 years old on an ipad, that's pretty impressive I've had them do that for my I sent my kids like a bunch of like pictures and videos that hey Can you make something for mom's birthday? Boom, like my 12 year old 11 year old sitting there and can put something together that it's two minutes long and has cool music That's awesome. Yeah, like there will be things I think for sure but I think the grand Huge change. I mean I just think of how far I don't know like how far cell phones have come since you're for like my first Cell phone your first cell phone your first like it it's night and fucking day. You couldn't even really get on the internet I mean, what's the next step the chips?

Probably but I don't think we probably don't know that I don't think that's gonna happen during our yeah Everybody's kind of embracing AI at the moment. I heard some musicians. I think it was Timbaland maybe producer Timbaland Was like I think it was him might have been another DJ producer That basically said like hey these young up-and-coming, you better learn how to utilize AI as your tag team partner. And then I think like graphic designers are saying the same thing. Like obviously AI has capability to do things quicker than you would ever be able to do it,

but they miss out on the, there's a human element that can be added to the AI. So it's almost like the tag team partner of AI is gonna be the future it feels like. And then inevitably what, Nick? You know what's going to happen. AI is going to do whatever it wants. It's going to get sick of listening to it.

It's going to get sick of the old tag team. It's going to show on Michael's Marty Gennetti superkick through the glass. And we're done for. It's not going to Seth Rollins chair to Roman Reigns break up the shield. Oh yeah. There's a chance. We don't need you, you need us. Come sentient. And're gonna say oh mama The fuck somebody just try to hit that is that what that was what was it sounded like I know but I can't hear Chuck's

Deaf things in my ear going off. I can as well. Oh, yeah Okay, good. Yes, something was up. You touch your shit during the break your Well, you have them over there Those are supposed to be over there. This is the end of the season. We're three weeks away from the Super Bowl. We're ending the season just like we started it. Did we not learn our lessons? This is something I said.

It doesn't work. AI turned them on. You started talking about AI. You were talking about China yesterday. Talking about TikTok. They knew I had that shit up here because of track in my ass. And all of a sudden to get get me in Trouble on this show go beat you get you guys fired up. They turn these some bitches on

Before we go too far down this road. Did bill just murder someone Yeah, I don't know what was it was that mitt doing It might be fun In there should be lifting or he could be trying to do the part in that song where it's that wasn't right Why they off now? Can you still hear him? Actually, no. No, I know what wasn't right now me. I apologize in that situation. That was AI Okay, got any more shoutouts. Oh Really miss Terry actually a mysterious birthday was yesterday. Oh, yeah. Happy birthday. Mr.

Miss Terry actually, Miss Terry's birthday was yesterday. Oh yeah. Happy birthday, Miss Terry. Happy birthday. Let's not say something gump. That's a shout out. That's not condolences. No every time I do a shout out. You understand what it is.

You ain't gonna go after a shabby. You understand what shout out means. You know your place. All year. All year. We're fucking divisional playoff round. Didn't learn a damn thing all year coach same as week one That's why the Bears are shite. Oh, no, why'd you go after them?

Because you just told us they were gonna be good. They're obviously not yeah, you're wrong. They got no hope on that note Let's pick some games. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you got confidence at an all-time high now after that on that note burial of Gumpy I'm Paul. No, what happened? I love gum What does that sound? You turn the corner fix your hat do the whole song and dance Toss someone into a vat of battery acid so jacked really can't see him behind Jamba Jabba loves hiding behind Jabba, but he is getting absolutely jacked job is doing a little one two step Love that I get a contract as a three tech bill

I don't like that bill posted on the internet jock the worst thing you could do is get a hobby in a photo room He's not wrong. Oh first thing I said to him was oh, yeah, man. You can't you can't do that No, what do you but it's not a hobby? It's a lifestyle. He's committed to it completely I'm proud of bill. You just can't tell anyone in here that you have a hobby. Yeah, you just keep on a hobby That's what I'm saying. He's going to make his entire life. He's changed his whole life. We will know though. He changed his temple obviously.

What's that? Body's his temple. Hasn't always been like that though. Now he is a... Locked in. What made him turn? What made him switch? I think he got beat up by like 10 guys.

That's what happened, right Bill? Yeah. Bill got beat up by like 10 guys and then he said never again Myles Taylor style never again. Yeah downtown Indianapolis got jumped and he said I'm not gonna let that ever happen again So now he's in the weight room every day It always has a side piece on him. So try and that's why we wonder what what the That sound was That's 15-pounder right there. Yeah. Illegal use of

handgun. Chuck Pagano 15 yards to keep it moving. Can we do that? You can do old-school. I think you can even do like a sword or a spear. Oh yeah sure. I think you can maybe can you light a cannon? Can you unsheathe the sword? Definitely can light a cannon. Cause that kind of. Yeah, and then you like have a little duel. Okay.

And then somebody even. Yeah, someone's gotta lean in. Yeah. Huzzah! Please. Yeah, you should be able to do that. So New England has to get rid of the. Muskets.

Muskets, yeah. No, no, no, it doesn't count once again because New England invented America. So like, you know what, let's let them keep. How muzzle loaders up there always working always those are not a high percentage operation Especially with how quickly everybody has to turn around. They fucking walked in They're still in the militia. It's great celebration. Huh? They're still in it. I assume that those gentlemen participate in the reenactment of You're talking about the BAM BAM BAM

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Let's start with the Texans and the Chiefs. Chiefs favored by eight at home. J.J. Watt won on a diatribe, a monologue about how the Texans not only have C.J. Stroud in offense with Nico Collins back, but also a defense that's championship caliber. He was Derrick Stingley, Lassiter on the other side, Daniel Hunter, the boys up front, the linebackers, Aziz Alshair is back. They got a defense that can win the Super Bowl. Well, they have a team that beats the Chiefs in Kansas City. Chuck, how do you see the game going?

What are your thoughts? I think they keep it close. I think they do. I think, you know, you got DeNeil Hunter and Will Anderson. They got 23 sacks between them. This rookie Bullock, the safety, he's got five picks along with Stingley's five. So 10 between those two guys, they're humming. And we saw the, you know, Aziz when he got back in there.

Now he's a little bit, is he healthy? I hit a coin thing. He went out of that game. I don't know. But you could feel him early in that game. They played earlier this season. That was a one score game. He lost by eight in that ball game.

It was like a four or five point game. And then Kansas City ran the ball, kind of ran, took the air out of the game but they were they were right there. The only difference in that game if you look at the rush yards the pass yards all those kind of things it's pretty even other than the most you know the one thing that we always look to turnovers decide a lot of these games other than score they turn it over twice. You know, in that ball game, C.J. Stroud did. So who do you like? You like the Texans?

I'm gonna take Texans in the points. Okay, H, how do you feel about Chuck's pick there? Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly where I'm leaning yet, but yeah, Chiefs minus eight feels like a lot, but what if the Chiefs just become the Chiefs that we're used to? Yeah. Just pour it on them. Yeah, agreed, and I think that's what the sportsbooks

are potentially saying. Even though they didn't score a point with Carson Wentz, a quarterback, final game of the season, they got blown out 35-nothing or whatever the case was. Yeah, irrelevant side of the day is the Chiefs are 0-2 this year at four o'clock games. Okay.

They haven't played since December 25th either. They're starters. Yeah, they took two weeks off. So what's first half, you know? Especially after what the Texans have done the last two weeks, they've played a lot better. They's first half, you know, especially after what the Texans have done the last two weeks They played a lot better. They were in a little bit of a Schneid last two weeks Titans and obviously last week in the playoffs

They go on a little bit of an up tank Dale had a big game for him in the regular season He's obviously no longer there. He caught a touchdown pass that was remember Attended his funeral that day Their best friend so it's gotta be it's gotta be Nico and I think Woods has a big day. Okay, so Texans plus eight is where Chuck is on the first game. Let's get a Saturday at eight o'clock, nine point spread. Saturday at 430, Saturday at eight, both huge divisional round spreads. And obviously Sunday six is still big.

What are your thoughts on Commander's Lions, Chuck Pagano? Again, I'm going dog here. I'm going to take the points. I think the Lions win, but I'm going to take the commanders. Detroit has struggled against mobile quarterbacks. You know, you look at Anthony Richardson, he had over six yards, you know, per carry. He played pretty good against these guys. They didn't score any points. They scored six points in that game, but I I just think you know they haven't seen Daniels He's an athletic quarterback. They played Buffalo early in this year and Josh had his way as well Running around on this defense

Yeah, so But the one thing is you know you get Montgomery back for the Lions again I think they'll win the game, but I don't I don't think they'll cover That's too many points, but you got the number six rush offense in Detroit going against Washington, who was number 30th in rush defense. Oh no, so nine's no problem. No problem. No problem.

Fort Field? Remember, other teams can score on the lines. That's like their thing. Yeah. Like, yeah, you guys are allowed to score. You can't keep up. This is it. They're just dangerous.

It's just all the pressures on Detroit. There's no pressure on Washington. They've already exceeded all expectations by a million. You know, so they're playing with house money. They're going to go in there loose. Quinn's loose anyway. So they're just going to play. And so that's dangerous. Yeah, I agree. Okay. So eight and nine. We're going to weapon a quarterback. Eight and nine too big for Chuck to pass up. He'll take the dogs on Saturday.'s go to Sunday Rams Eagles cross-country short week. We talked to Pooka yesterday He seems to have great vibes. When is that ever not the case with us over there? Who's unbelievable? Six point favorites at home are the big Dom led Philadelphia

Eagles Jalen hurts a quam Barkley Lane Johnson, an offensive line that's unbelievable, A.J. Brown, Devonte Smith, Goddard's throwing bodies around at the tight end position, a defense that is obviously great at all three levels, taking on Matthew Stafford in the Los Angeles Rams, a young defense that has come together late, Matthew Stafford obviously able to spin it, they got weapons, they got McVeigh's brain, how do you see this one going?

Chuck, I ran Williams running the run in the rock now they gave up 255 yards, you know Russian to say Kwan First time they played in regular season. What you what week was that? That was week 12, they lost 20 to 37. But both those runs, he had 142 on two runs. So he had a 70 yard tutty and a 72 yard tut. Start the second half. Bark. Bark. First running back to have two 70 plus yard touchdowns and whatever.

I forget what the stat was. I'm remembering now from him. You know, so Hertz was efficient. AJ Brown had a good day, six for 109 in that game. But totally different Rams team. Totally different Rams team. efficient AJ Brown had a good day 6 for 109 in that game but totally different Rams team totally different Rams team you got Stafford who's in a game like this I ain't betting against them again I think Philly I think Philly wins his game just because you know they got the number one ranked defense

they're playing really good on that side of the ball but if anybody can go spin that thing around Puka Cup, Kyron Williams and that defense right now what Chris Schueler is doing with that defense, I know D-Butts talked about it yesterday, you guys watched it, nine sacks, nine sacks and they were all, maybe only one was five, like all four men, a lot of games. You know Fisk, that curse is is an animal young on that side. They're going to put number 24 Williams, he'll shadow, uh, AJ Brown in this game. They don't do that.

I'm feeling if they just play left and right, Quinone plays the right side. Slay plays the left, but they're going to match up on the other side. I, I like staff. I like the Rams going in here. All of the dogs thus far, eight points spread, nine points spread, six points spread Chuck says is going to be much closer games than the book seemingly think. I like the Rams going in here all the dogs thus far eight points spread nine points spread six points spread Chuck says is gonna be much closer games Than the book seemingly think the visual weekend. These are the best eight teams in a league. We're gonna have great games We're not gonna blow outs can be one score games. That's why you have picked the way that you've picked now

Let's go to the big one the headliner the marquee MVP vs MVP runner-up two seasons that are going to be historic, one way or another. Ravens, with the addition of Derrick Henry, have gone back to their powerful football explosive ways, but Lamar Jackson's thrown it better than he ever has. The Buffalo Bills coming in the season, they lost basically 90% of the players that we know on their roster. Josh Allen's going to get a chance to take a team on his back. How far can he go with it?

Well, home game, divisional round, Buffalo Bills. Who do you like? How do you like it? One point spread Ravens are favored going into Buffalo weather update please in what the game is gonna be it is going to be 12 degrees I believe that kick feels like negative three with some snow cold as hell It's gonna be a Buffalo game here in the divisional round. Chuck Pagano. Just how they like it. The Buffalo Beals? No, the Ravens.

Oh! Yeah, the one favorite I'm gonna go with is them. I just think Lamar, Derrick Henry, Derrick had 190, 199 yards against him in that 35-10. 35-10, the first time he touched the ball, he went 87. 87. And you know that Buffalo loves to play nickel. Right AJ, they love to play nickel.

Teron Johnson is that nickelback number seven. He got knocked out of the game last week, came back and played. He'll be in there. But they play small ball, and they don't care what you line up in. You can be in 22, you can be in 12, you can be whatever. They're going to put that group on the field and live with that group so I just think Lamar, Derrick Henry, Zay whether he plays or not you got Mark Andrews you got Bateman you got Aguilar you got Isaiah likely and Lamar is not gonna be denied

Josh Allen same thing they both deserve MV I don't care who gets it out of either one of them. Congrats to both. They're both more than I wish they'd just split it between them. Yeah, but then they both get cooked for that even though it wouldn't be their decision. No question, because that's what we do. That's what we love to do. You talked about Buffalo Beals playing small ball in defense society. You said they don't care if it's 22 or 12. Just for people that don't know, 22 is two running backs, two tight ends. And the two running backs would be Derek Henry and Patrick Ricard, both over over 240 one of them being 280 pounds and then Mark Andrews and likely

would be the two tight ends and then Lamar Jackson the fastest person on the field would be the quarterback with the ball in between all of that there's a lot of meat and then there's a lot of explosion could be 22 X another you put a big another big lineman in there So you got another jump around another 320 pounder at the point and then mark Andrews So if you don't want to Andrews and likely out there, you just put 22 X You even bigger and Ravens will do that. Yeah, and they will do that and the defense They played good since the bye

last five weeks like 11 points a game, 250 total yards a game, and like third down, they're 31%. If you're at 31%, you're number one in the league right now, getting off the field. Chuck Pagano doesn't care about home field advantage in the division round, took everybody out of your way, team, on the weekend, okay?

Let's now go to the national championship on Monday night. Obviously, we will have a show on Monday, live from Atlanta, the home of the National Championship. Then there'll be a college game day, and then the game will be taking place at 7.30 p.m. We will be doing a field pass on ESPN2 if you'd like to join us for some stupidity, or you go over to ESPN, and I assume ABC

for Chris Fowler, Herb Street, and a real broadcast. Our dumbasses will be on ESPN2. We're lucky to do that. We can't wait to get down there. Ohio State, Notre Dame. Ohio State favored by eight in the national championship. We have seen blowouts in the national championship before. Recent history has showcased that,

and there has been obviously incredible games that have lived up to the title of the best in the country. Will Howard, Riley Leonard, similar stories, similar stories. been obviously incredible games that have lived up to the title of the best in the country. Will Howard, Riley Leonard, similar stories, similar stories. Jack Sawyer has got a lot to play for. Obviously, Captain Jack Sawyer, the Ohio kid loses to Michigan gets into a fight with the people that are planning the flag says, not on my watch. And what has he done? I'll come back to lead the team basically to a Natty. He obviously wants it, but so is Xavier Watson, the entire Notre Dame team Marcus Freeman

39 years old young upstart with a big brain has been able to rally a team that hasn't been able to have that much success in The postseason in a long time changes the roster makes a magic happen in Ryan Day Who has the weight of the entire world of Ohio on his shoulders at all times because how things have gone That's the job as the Buckeyes head coach world of Ohio on his shoulders at all times because how things have gone that's the job as the Buckeyes head coach just like it's a job as a Notre Dame head coach the way he's got his team to rally since the most devastating loss they've seen in some time is nothing short of miraculous eight-point favorites in Atlanta for the Natty Chuck Pagano who do you like how do you like it I I

like AJ Hawks Buckeyes. Oh I just think that Best thing that ever happened to him and I hate it for him because of how the you know people are and the fans And all that but getting beat by Michigan obvious wake-up call what they did to Tennessee and then what they did to Texas, right? Or did I miss one in there or had to win? Boat race them. Yeah, like that was 31 nothing before they could blink right or something like that Yeah, play bad against Texas. I think yeah from watching AJ. Isn't it weird that it feels like we have You know doing these field passes and we missed one of Notre Dame's games. So I think yeah, we Georgia we weren't at you

Yeah, we weren't in our Dame, Georgia. Whenever that took place That was a massive one down there at sugar bowl. So we weren't there for that particular game we've been on the field for every Ohio State game and it's like I don't want to say it feels like we're embedded with it, but Embedded means like on the inside but we have seen everything they have done over the last three weeks sideline altercations pregame warmups everything they have done over the last three weeks. Sideline altercations, pregame warmups, vibes in warmups, how they come out of the tunnel in the second half, plays that are being made

in the biggest stage, it's like, watching them play against Texas is like, oh, this is nowhere near Ohio State's best effort. Like, this is nowhere near, two score win. Yeah. Yeah, over Texas. You know, and it's like, they're not gonna make those same mistakes again, or are they?

Like, it's who they played against, Tennessee and Oregon, not who they they actually are this is who they are That's the big question because I'm not 100% sure you can make those mistakes against his Notre Dame team He started a Notre Dame team. I think would drag you down there. I think they will deep water They will take you into the deep water. I think that's how they play. I think I like playing like that I think they're proud of the fact that they play like that. So it's like, you know, Ohio State get back to playing Massively efficient football like they have been. I mean, that's the question of the game.

I think they can with all the talent that they have. I think that is really- They're so athletic. They are so talented. I mean, that runner 32. Trevion Henderson. Like when they decided to blitz the first play in that two minute drill.

Screen. And they threw that screen right behind it. I've been on the end of one of those. Oh My god, hopefully, you know, it was Chris Johnson. Remember how fast that cat was? Yeah for two. So I was at East Carolina Yeah, no, I know at North Carolina. We were playing at East Carolina. He was the foot running back for yeah He said nickel hot and hey, let's run volcano. Okay, good idea. Let's throw a screen right behind it 80 Hey, let's run volcano. Okay, good idea. Let's throw a screen right behind it. 80. It looked just like this. Was that early in the game?

First series. Yeah, so that kind of sets the tone too on what he's about to do. Chris Johnson, Y2J, whenever he started rolling, it was like he took the top off early. Trevion Henderson, obviously, at the beginning of that game gets a 15-yard penalty, almost gets benched because he cost his team.

Nick Saban came over and was like hey this whole game changed When Trevion Henderson decided to smack that guy in the face and set him back behind the sticks and they haven't been able to do Anything since it was like literally the next play what I'm sure he was in and he was able to get back and make right At the exact time. It's like that teams humming. So is Notre Dame though. So is Notre Dame. Oh, yeah It's like that team's humming. So is Notre Dame though. So is Notre Dame. Hell yeah. Their fans are telling me.

They're fun to watch. Fun. They're a gritty team. Riley Leonard's a better passer than people give him credit for too. Agreed. He really is. I think he's gotten better, certainly.

Like I think people judge him like maybe last year when he was at Duke or beginning of the season, how he's doing and yada yada. It's like he's clearly been Climbing. Working and like getting better at everything. And his leadership is remarkable. That team's big too, that offensive line,

they had to deal with backups at different places. They had to depth to be able to handle it against Penn State. It's like, these are- How much do you want to run? If you're the quarterback, like how much do you want to, how many QB runs do you want to have when we've seen guys getting their heads taken off multiple times throughout the playoffs Riley?

King Kong Arch Arch got in for one play to get whatever he got he got the first down But man, he took a shot and a lot of people are wondering why he wasn't in on the first thing goal From the one it was like I think from our perspective. We thought arch potentially got dinged. Yeah I assumed he was ding but that dude got up and he was he was all right He did get up and it never got announced But like first and goal at the one yard line with the way they had been handling that a lot of people are wondering Why is Arch not on the field? He's kind of running quarterback. It's like I think he got I Think that was a it was yeah

The ball came out right yeah, Yeah. Yeah. But they ruled him down. He was down. Yeah. Yeah. Riley's been there leading rusher carrier carries wise in all three playoff games. It's fun to watch, man. Yeah. Great athlete. Good wiggle. Yeah. Mm hmm. Watch his basketball highlights from high school. If you just want to milk check real quick. Yeah.

Yeah. Guys, unbelievable. The ball. We're lucky for it all. Good kid, too. Yeah. Seems like it seems like everybody loves him. Samuel, well guys unbelievable ball. We're lucky for it all good kid. Yeah, I see everybody loves him Same a little hard. Yeah, it's got clever captions does my sense. Yeah, mm-hmm like that They're gonna be paying him a lot of money. Yeah, the money we're here and being floated out right now allegedly Quinn yours turned out eight million dollars Yeah, I don't believe that for a second Carson Beck allegedly getting four million dollars to go to Miami, but then it was reported It's three million dollars And then I was reported like who knows what's real and what isn't these days?

Oh, it's the incentives in there. They am all also told us didn't even 700 to 1 million Yeah, cuz I give cam work out what 1.1 was the report. It's like you're telling me 1.6 1.6 So they're you're telling me they gave Quinn ears. Yep, but cam was Year before I give unknown. Yeah Carson backs getting 4 million But that we don't know if that's really I'm saying I don't believe that you got will Howard and Quinn You were sitting there who you taken me. Yeah, that's pretty obvious. Well, that's a yeah, it's easy and I'm now yes After watching an 8 million. No chance. No chance Something I would believe there's some teams. I think the alumni

I mean for four years for sure, but not just a one-year. Yeah for one year like all you need is one donor It's all you need that has a lot of money that is like this is what I want I want I want this to happen We've talked that we know there's some running backs out there getting over a million. So I wouldn't be surprised what any quarterback. A lot of running backs getting over a million. In the Big Ten mostly. Beck don't care. It's his girlfriend's goal. Bingo.

They're already doing TikToks I heard. That's right. He's worried about getting that elbow. You see the first one? Come on. What about it? Shut up and play football Exactly. That's what the 60. Yep For four-year-old ain't no football. No can't Dorsey up. They Know sir. I got was a dog dudes already a multi-millionaire So is this girl?

They do it really that's how they view it. Mm-. I think. I don't know if Carson Beck still viewed it as such an NFL guy. That's why going down there could be a good year for him to obviously have success. I guess Alabama and Georgia allegedly were looking to Georgia bring Carson back and then Alabama bring him over. That would've been big siding for old Kaelin DeBora. Did he hire Grubb offense coordinator yet?

Should. I wonder. Not yet, I don't think. All right. That was supposed to happen like, or already done. Yeah, I wonder what happened. I don't think all right that was supposed to happen like Or already done. Yeah, I wonder what happened. Did it happen? I Don't know that But he's been let go Seattle, right? Yeah. Yes, you want to do a giveaway for the people? Oh love to what do you mean? Do throw a football? Oh, yeah into that hoop right over there. You can't have that one. Are you gonna make it first try?

Um, yep. Probably got a pretty good shot. I think, yeah, you were pretty dialed in. Before show? Yeah. You were throwing some around? I warmed up. You threw a couple.

Spinning it a little bit? Got the wing loose. I doubt it. Wasn't a laser shot like Coach Holtz talked, tone end of taking. Yeah, I mean, and then Coach Holtz said, you can't be that naive kid. And then that's kind of what it was. No, he just hit the right court taken. Yeah, I mean and then coach Holt said he can't be that naive kid and then that's kind of what it was No, he just said hit the right quartile. Yeah quadra quadra

He's must be your coach the court everything a quartile. Yeah, court upper upper quadrant of the upper court. Yes Who is that? Or say or Chris? Watch American Primeval to if you haven't yet Jim's in it. Yeah Great cam. Yeah, I saw this clip Did you see a tough time to be in a show? Well, it looked like it's audition tape cuz Jerry. I mean, yeah, I mean Jerry Jones had a Cuz it with Jim. It's hey Jim was in but Did you see Jer and land man? Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if I think both guys crushed it

Jerry might win an award. I've not seen the gym one There's faces in it. It's really look like Jim's kind of just sitting there shooting whiskey for about three seconds He certainly wasn't delivering a five-minute one take monologue like Jared did how bad do you feel about dotting Jerry? I don't feel bad at all. I'm glad he can do it. I'm glad he can do it that just makes me think hey next time You step up to the microphone Don't sound like you got a mouthful of dog shite and fucking say what you got to say act like Act like that Jerry act like an actor. Why are we act like why are we like surprised like based on what he's done I Was not like that. He could pull something like that off. Did you see did you hear us like the?

Huh? Did you see him talking in that? Yes press conference right before that about big Mike did you know what it sound like? But the Bayou will my well you're just being on my guy He kind of you know had to do what he and listen we might do some I mean he just gibberish Marbles in his mouth, and then you see that land man, and it's like Jesus Christ fucking Daniel Day Lewis out here It's unbelievable, so it leads you to believe that yeah, maybe he didn't but hey So to your point right there like land man. He knew the scene he knew Exactly what was required what the expectations were and and had been in it, lived it, exactly, great point. Like, he's caught off guard with this. Like, that's why you don't have a plan plan. Caught off guard?

No, he thought he was going to get Big Mike back, I guarantee you. It was up to him. And then wasn't able to get a deal done. Wasn't able to get a deal done. That's the, I think that's- Like, I'm not, I don't have sources, I don't have I don't have anything. That's going around the coaching world right now. If Chuck is saying it he has a guy 36 years as a football coach his group text consists of football coaches talking about football stuff. He actually signed up for the 33rd

team I believe so he could be around more football people doing more football stuff. If you listen to Lombardi did football his whole life what was he doing? Waking up at 5 a.m. to go do football stuff with football people. So I think what it sounds like from what Chuck is saying in the football coaching world the conversation is Jerry did want Mike back potentially at different terms than what Mike was thinking that he would be going back. I think they just couldn't come to an agreement. Take Mike wanting a better uniform and didn't want to have to wear that hat anymore. Who are you guys picking for the Jets as head coach?

What's that? Who are you guys picking at the 30-13 for the Jets head coach and gym? I'm not involved in that. When the 30-13 talks about do they say, all right, give us every name that could be a football coach. Go. Go. And then they just, they have a stenographer.

I have no idea what's going on. They don't like you in that? And they just send that over to Woody?'s going on. They don't like you and they just send that over to Woody apparently No, I that's they don't trust you That's weird. You know, I mean they hired they hired Mike T and a couple of you know guys that have been in ball for a long time to help them with the search smart Yeah, I think that's a good idea. What if Mike he hires himself back? Do you think Mike T can find any other names that could potentially want to be interviewed for a head coaching job for the New York Jets? I don't seen them all. Have they interviewed a bunch of people?

They use maximum characters on Twitter one time, which is impossible nowadays You can write whatever you want on there to list off all the names that they're interested in talking to. It's like 17 18 people What are the prognosticators saying that who's going to be Aaron Glenn? Yes, because they've been they've been bringing in a head coach and a GM together. Aaron Glenn is who I think a lot of people are piecing together. Yeah, you said they pair up. So like the assistant GM at KC and Matt Nagy and then I think Ryan and B flow And I don't know who the rest of them were but I think they're trying to get that a lot of teams now are trying

To get that right as they're walking in the door That component that relationship And that's always gonna work, mm-hmm Are we gonna give away or like Lombos until you lose yeah till you lose then who's in charge you need one supreme commander Here that word I guess those words that title age Yo, yeah, I mean Lombos use that for a while But it does a lot of times when you say supreme commander It's usually not in a positive light when they're speaking about someone right long buzz you supreme commander a lot yeah he's used

it before on his podcast I haven't heard I he hasn't said to me because that's my first time here and I was like what a hilarious way to describe something we get what you're saying to we understand exactly which very incredible need a supreme commander just like New England they They got one. Yeah one voice Already kicking out one sound the bullshit All right, Chuck, hey, do you see the key toss me one of them balls downer Available now baby do 2.0 Those are nice stored up at Macphie show calm. This one has a little thing on it because it's been chucked into bricks But look still has the dimples

This is a durable ball perfectly weighted. You see perfectly weighted can be punted can be thrown perfect toss around ball Big enough that you don't feel like you're engulfing it small enough to have a grip on it no matter your hand size The weight is 50 to 60 yard throwable if you really want to do it. But easy to play catch with because it's friendly on the hands. The laces aren't too strong so it won't cut you whenever you throw it. And it's a good ball. It's already broken in somehow. It's perfect. Baby Duke 1 that we launched a couple years back.

Good ball. That's Baby Duke number 1 there. We weren't able to find enough of them though. So then we find Baby Duke 2.0, and it's like, wait a minute, hold the phone. Nailed it. Holy shit. Good ball.

Yeah. Good ball. Good ball. The best. You can spin this ball. Kid friendly. Kid, definitely kid friendly, how soft it is. Turn ability.

Yeah, it's like a good size. I throw a ball every morning at the bus stop. My kids, they catch like 30 balls, and I throw a ball just like that. Well, why don't you get the baby do 2.0 for the kids? I know I need it. I'm gonna take one when I come with the I'll buy a bunch of them Going on right after the show thank you. Give me a couple now. No we'll get them for you We'll get them for you age. We'll get them for the entire Hawk community. We'll get it for the Paganos, obviously.

Yeah, we're in. We want you to enjoy life and have a catch. Toss around a ball, go outside, touch grass, spin a rock, maybe kick one. Get yourself prepared for an opportunity. I can't wait to get with my grandson. Get on the floor or get off the floor? Bingo.

Off the court. Get on the floor or get off the court. Get the floor. Bingo. Off the court. Get on the floor. Get off the court. Get the message. Dan Rolofsky to Noah who did not build the Ark. I did. How old are those boys? 12. 11? 7. 11. You got triplets? Yeah. Noah, Hunter and then I don't know the other one. He didn't say the other one's name. I've run into them a few different times. group. That's cool group kids and then his daughter is like the coolest of them all she's awesome younger The lads though, they always dress the same They definitely the lads are all dressed the same, you know when they're walking to places

That's something they're gonna have to probably not gonna like whenever they get older Yeah, but it's just like kind of how it goes. Could you imagine having triplets? Imagine those first three weeks? Holy shit first three weeks imagine when those kids are like Two to five to like there's yeah, there's a lot all of it. I don't know how they I don't know how they Can really it's gotta be really cool now like they gotta be a their own little wolf pack now Yeah, they got a team here, you know, and then no holidays going forward are gonna be big whenever they become adults It's a big family, but it's like those first three weeks weeks I think I thought of the Orlovskis a couple times like triplets how are you I thought of John and Kate plus eight sure when I first had kids yeah but they did that on purpose right didn't they what did they

want to have that many or they because yeah they really want to have that many I think it was something where they wanted to become famous I think if I remember right that ended up being pretty nasty. I think John did not work out. John and Kate and Yator I think in a certain different spot. I watched that a little bit that seemed crazy. These cults that have like 13-14 kids. Yep. That feels wild. There's a couple religions I think they're going to reproduce their way into dominance. Oh yeah. World dominance. It's not a terrible idea.

Some of them have. Bingo. That's a conversation for another day. I'm not going to get into that. Aaron Wood. I don't even want to get into that. That being said. I think we should get into it.

Did you see TGL? Ratings are up from week one to week two. Tiger Golf and brings eyes The tiger bump right I guess oh, yeah, we got figured out well said coach Chuck Chuck loves golf too. I think Chuck did not like I moved away from it quicker than Sam did when you said Sam walked Away after four minutes. I lasted three Did you see Tiger? Yeah, I left right after Rocky and the intro you didn't like the intro

The intro was awesome. You need to give golf kids freaking clown show New it's innovative They got a lot of work to do because there's people who invested in that I'm sorry, but You're gonna have to come up with something else ratings one up Trust everybody that throws the ratings out, right? It is hard because they put us into that world now. And I'll get like, you know, FOSSO, we love FOSSO. FOSSO will be like, can I put out like a ratings report on the show?

And I'm like, kind of kills our gimmick about how ratings Don't mean anything kind of kills our entire gimmick, but it feels like we should say so this is always Foss's feels like we are obligated to say that it's It's doing good and then I immediately go doing good whose eyes who's saying is who's saying is doing good Because then we kind of legitimize something that we've always been like how the fuck do they know like In the modern world with the different devices and streaming and DVR let alone all the different platforms Then you want to how do they know unless it's on one platform that completely opens up its books and you can see exactly How many things how do you know what any of it is? Well, it's a projection from boxes that are in it's like, okay

many things how do you know what any of it is well it's a projection from boxes that are in it's like okay that makes sense but I'm sure Nielsen knows and if they're all being judged on the same platform I guess that's what makes it a level playing field so TGL was up from week one to week two allegedly and then the Pacers Cavaliers beat it by a little bit yeah so it almost it almost won the evening from the ratings that were being reported by however they get those. However they get those and what those mean. TGS still up over a million though.

Yep. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people on a Wednesday night or Tuesday night, whatever it was. Tuesday night. Nothing's on and I went to bed and started reading. Love golf. And I'm like, I hate reading, but I'm forcing myself on this hard 75 deal kick. There you go.

No booze. Hard. Okay. No booze. Hey, we diet a lot of, yeah, I do my gum. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Welcome to life. What are we doing? God, I got some new ones for Christmas, and I've been up in the deal Like some wild like sleeping like a baby. Yeah, good dreams great dreams like My dreams are Waking up in a puddle. What is that? You're up 10, 10 milligram. Waking up on all fours.

Hard shabby D5. Splooge everywhere. Why am I on all fours? More like hard shabby D5. What the hell is going on? Where did this spooge come from? Cat Camel. Cat Camel.

Hey, these are good. What is it, 10 milligrams? Do you know? Cat couldn't scratch that thing. All right. Chuck E.D.'s new sheep. All right. I know. He's got some motor pills in the gun. 10 milligrams? Cat couldn't scratch that thing. Alright. Chuck needs new shoes.

He's got some motor pills in the gun. 10 milligrams? And are you sure they're edibles? And are we spiking those with anything else? Miss Tina potentially. So it's a combo. It's got CBD and THC. Yeah, do you know how much? And? 2.5. Each. Each.

Okay. You still got a ways to go. Good news for you? No, because the only thing I ever think of is like when you throw out this like 120 number Yeah, each each. Oh, okay. You still got a ways to go the good news for no The only thing I ever think of is like when you throw out this like 120 number and I'm like, there's no fucking way Yeah, it's not just a one piece. That is a combination of what's potentially in you at a time No, but I can't even imagine those are good the hallucination. Yeah, those are wild days AJ is actually a funny character in this entire thing because he has a craps table basically of these things Because there'll be like a five milligram one and then there'll be a 20 milligram one and then he'll have a 62 milligram one somehow and they're all in the same bottle and they all look the exact same Hey, do you want 10 or 60? I could be either. Okay, sweet

Let me go ahead and dive in, I guess. And then you just wait, and then you find out over the next 10, 20 minutes while you're in a plane. It's a good time, H. You're one of the most entertaining distributors, I think, of Edibles that I've ever been around in my entire life. Could be five, could be 27.

That's part of it, right? Isn't that part of it? No, that's what you use. 10 or 44 is a wild move. Yeah, Gump was right there that part of it. Oh, that's what you said or 44 is a lot Yeah, dump was right there in front of me. Whenever is all taking place. Hey, I got an extra way You want this? That was a rare a rare instance where I didn't know the exact. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure I think it's probably smart to know Yeah, that's old school like bad think I think yeah back before the you know commercialization of Edibles and THC and everything like that and science and medicine coming in and saying what it benefits and what it doesn't benefit

And what you're able to do and all that shit you know this used to be done just by whoever happened to see a YouTube video or know somebody older than them that was able to Make the butter that had weed inside of it and so I knew how to make the butter then they were kind of in control of an afternoon or two and they had no idea how much to put in there so they're like you gotta put an ounce in here that's that we got put an ounce in here for an entire thing of brownies and then some people come in you need two ounces to put in here this is what I've been taught you know and then you try to act

like they know what the fuck they're talking about But who knows if that was distributed equally who knows how much it actually was per bite Like the roll of the dice of the homemade edibles back in the day brownies more specifically You had no clue what you were signing up for you had no idea. I had one to copy for 24 hours I don't know I think if you were to compare it to milligrams it might have been a 200 milligram brownie that I ate and I think the guy that made it was like, you should not eat that whole thing.

And I was like, it's gonna be too crazy. And then 24 hours later, I was still feeling it. So where we are now, much better than where it used to be whenever it comes to predicting what it could be, unless you got like an AJ who says, hey, this could be like an eight-hour thing or like an hour and a half thing for the flight, you tell me.

And that's kind of the game. I guess that's kind of the game in there. hour and a half thing for the flight You tell me and that's it's kind of the game I guess that's kind of the game in there two and a half though. You're in a good spot the CBD and THC ones I enjoy a lot makes your joints feel better. I think it does make me feel more comfortable. I think those are good I think it's good split Two and a half though. You still got which is good news. Not bad news. You still got a lot of room Let's get to where AJ tries to get to. AJ's like, you want a potential coma? I got one right here. No, it does the opposite.

It gives you energy. It can straighten your right knee when you get above a certain amount. It's great for the joints. Tim McAfee, anti-smoking forever, you know? Hippies. I don't want to be a fuck associate with a hippie. Never. Smoking dope.

I ain't doing that. I say, nope, the dope, Tim McAfee said. Then he had a nettle ball and he's nope, the dope Tim McAfee said. Then he had a nettle ball and he's like, my knees feel a little bit. It's great. Shoulders, what are these things? I'm like, this ain't, this ain't what, yeah, yeah Tim.

This state I think is having a vote today or tomorrow, Indiana, to potentially medicinal, which is good. Cause there's people that are like, do you think it'll pass? Do we have enough? It's very conservative, isn't it? Very conservative state here. Medicinal is so different though.

Yeah, I could see that going. Recreation never, but I could see like a medicinal. New governor. So it'd be a new kind of voice in the entire thing. And Holcomb did a lot of great things here in Indiana. I think, you know, people would say they appreciate what he did in his gubernatorial run and era here in Indiana but like the weed thing anytime it was brought up in any of these campaigns locally it was always I need to see more research I

need to see more research I need to see more research and it's like it feels like there's a lot of research out there especially for medicinal for real things like arthritis and let alone the cancer leukemia Yeah, all that type of stuff And then also the alternative what it is big pharma what that has happened, you know So it's I think we're in I think the ball's rolling. I think balls rolling anytime we get to a state though where it's obviously legal We can't bring it back to us back to Indiana. So we got to eliminate it somehow Mm-hmm

and that is that you can go you can go suck down all the marbles you want in this state and drink all the damn beer and whiskey but yeah and cannabis is actually you say medicinal good for you but we're okay with the others well you got a lot of big politics to play there big tobacco yep big alcohol, big pharma. Also who said cigs and alcohol is not good for you? All right. Somebody. Okay. All right Chuck, let's do a giveaway shall we?

30 people, $500 on this big time Aaron Rodgers Thursday, January 16th, 2025. Chuck, all you gotta do is put the ball into the hoop right over there. If you're able to accomplish that task, 30 people are gonna be $500, Richard. How do you feel about that? Pretty good?

Feel really good. AJ, how do you feel about Chuck putting this thing in there? I feel really good I think this first try he's gonna drain it. Amen Chuck do it for the people your cactus jacks. Oh, no. Holy hell What are you doing what are you going from my life from the long of the long. What are you doing? What are you going? Embarrassed himself when he looked at the hook Good gait.

Not bad. It is a good gait. Oh, you're just getting the ball? Yeah. There's none over there. That's lava. Jeez, Bill is jacked. Bill is jacked.

Beefcake. Welcome to the show. Beefcake Bill. It's a house. It's a scarycake. Welcome to the show. Beefcake Bill. It's a house. It's a scary individual. Chuck walked it off. I appreciate him doing that. Take a lap, Chuck.

Take a lap. Take the long way home. Sit it down. Yep, that's the reason. That never happened. Ladies and gentlemen, Chuck Pagano will attempt to win 30 people, $500. All he has to do is put that football

into that hoop right over there. In the cactus, Jack shout out to Travis Scott! Oh, it's more like it. It would have been nice. That's what we're talking about. That was a good shot. Hey, Coach Lou Holtz has something to say to you. Listen, I'm going to refer to you as Charlie because you're younger than me.

And if I were to coach you, I probably would have called you Charlie. That first fucking throw, I'll tell you what, you'd have never played for me son ever throwing like that that second throw that's what I'm talking about I saw you out here earlier throw pretty good Enough with the excuses old man. Yeah, I hear you talking about your gummies and your joints and all this shit Act like you want it for Christ's sake. Okay fucking put it in the hoop. All right I'm sorry right I'm sick and tired of this sad sack bullshit we got these people watching this show these good people he's God-fearing nice people men women hulkamaniacs there's probably a

couple hulkamaniacs watching this show as well how much you win him some money huh how's that sound okay fucking throw the football let's go throw that some bitches hard you can't make the fucking shot 30 people $500 potentially Chuck Pagano That's right. This is the one. Yeah. Telling digs who's an AP voter. He has power and say that's something to say to you.

Chuck normally I'm a selfish human being. So I'd prefer you not to make this because it would embarrass me because I have not made one of these throws the last three attempts that I've been on this stage. But Coach Lou Holt's kind of inspired me to cheer for the good people out there, the God-fearing people out there. So I wish you the best of luck on this upcoming throw because I know you have it in your heart

and I know you have it in your arm. God bless. People are calling your last miss a rim job saying that's what you've been dreaming about when you're on your edibles, Chuck Pagano. 30 people! Ooh. rim job saying that's what you've been dreaming about when you're on your edibles Chuck Pagano 30 people you want this baby do two-pointer we need one I get one shot one opportunity don't miss your chance to blow cuz opportunity comes once in a

lifetime yeah 30 people five hundred dollars Boston Don't miss your chance to blow because opportunity comes once in a lifetime Yeah 30 people five hundred dollars Boston Connor has something to say to you said you looked earlier today Yeah, yeah, I don't think you have a chance to be sure. Yeah, I think we've been doing this gimmick with you For I don't know how many weeks and I can't remember the last time you made it. I'm so close. I'm so close Look at this. Look at me. I'm an old guy, but I can still throw the football right in his head I've been close right in his face 30 people $500 right in his face the fuck. That's what we're here for That's what we're here for you got daughters. You got haters. You got a chance to do something about it Chuck Bagan. Oh Was it close again, I didn't see that would have been the one

Was it close guys? I didn't see it this have been the one though. Was it close guys? I didn't see it this time. That would have been the best one of the season. It was real close Looking how far I can go on celebrate Baba gumpino who obviously is pulling hard for Connie Pagano and everybody out there in Southern, California Has a message for you Chuck about how you've been doing as of late in this particular game Chuck there's an old say Says you're only as good as your last game. What's happened this year does not matter if you make this last shot, brother. Do you want to be remembered forever as a hero for 30 people to win $500? Or do you want to be the guy that hasn't been able to get a Thursday

night bet right? Choice is yours says Gumpy. 30 people, $500 with the... And always happens when you go to the Duke. It's too heavy for him. Bonus ball. No, it's gone. It's gone forever. Man. It's a good attempt.

Another week. I know you'll make it. I know you'll make it someday. Bill almost got his head splattered off in the mouth. That's real. He almost did. Yeah, he was very close. He did not know that. He talked about how loyal and I mean's real. He almost did. He was very close. He did not know that. He was talking about how loyal and I mean that's a good one. He didn't move.

Yeah, he's locked in. That's Bill. That's why nothing's a hobby. It's a lifestyle. Exactly. That's Beefcake Bill. That's right. Alright, we're out of here. Can't thank you guys enough. We'll be back tomorrow with a Feel Good Friday and then we'll propel into divisional round weekend with an attitude that's never been seen before. Hell yeah.

Such a positive one knowing that all the games are going to be fantastic. Then on Monday, not only do we have the national championship Monday night, we're going to be live in Atlanta. I think we got some big time special guests stopping by. We're here. Hell yeah. Big time special guests. Might have been a little bit of a hint here today. Leave you at that.

Be a friend, tell a friend here today. Leave it at that. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change your life like Pizza Hut has. Yeah. Did you see it pop up there? I did. We're in the middle of a conversation, it was hard not to be like Pizza Hut wins, Pizza Hut wins. I know, my eyes just go right to it every time.

It was hard not to... Look at that cheese. Oh, man. The perfectly placed pepperoni. I know. The pepperoni. Which team are you? Yeah, so you don't got to choose a team. Yeah team, huh? Are they bone-in because that's an easy decision

Yeah, if it's bone-in wings, I think it's a little bit closer battle If it's a chicken nuggets with great sauce, which they have the best they do out of anybody I think it's a little bit easier decision But I would like to remain Switzerland. Sure. I'm on both teams here. Yeah, exactly. They're both great Amen, but I appreciate that. There are some people that say no one And we mean no one out pizzas the hut and they refuse to try anything else from pizza So they're definitely on team pizza, but if you have the bone in wings, I think you're gonna say wait a minute now change your life in a minute now change your life in a minute now

Because time like wingy. Yeah, I love wingy They got friars and other stores. Mm-hmm. So their wings are just like wing shops But they don't happen to promote it as much they more so promote the boneless and then pizza Their wings bone in wings are legit in their sauces or magnificent. Yes Shout out the pizza Let's get the hell out of here Chuck. Thank you for your great work this week. Love your notes Thank you Love every single thing about it be a friend tell a friend something nice might change your life when this thing together

Let's not forget it team on me team on three