The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1284 - AFC/NFC Championship Preview & Picks, Pete Caroll Named Head Coach of the Raiders, Liam Coen Named Head Coach of the Jaguars, Adam Schefter, Bill Belichick, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview both Conference Championships and make their picks against the spread, and also chat about the breaking news that Pete Carroll has officially been named the Head Coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, and Liam Coen has officially been named the Head Coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars in a drama filled situation. They also discuss the ratings from the National Championship and Divisional weekend, as well as some of the transfer portal news that has been floating around since the end of the college football season. Joining the show to give some updates on Pete Carroll, Liam Coen, and the other coaching openings that are left is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Later, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, and current Head Coach of the North Carolina Tar Heels, Bill Belichick joins the show to chat about being on the recruiting trail, and he previews the Conference Championship games. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Monday. Enjoy the games. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this Feel Good Friday January 24th 2025 this program starts now. Football is wonderful and we are just hours away from championship weekend of the NFL season as the AFC will crown their champion and the NFC will crown their champion, then those two will do battle down in New Orleans to see who is the world champion. Obviously the NFC has the Washington commanders, which is obviously a surprise with a rookie quarterback,

a rookie head coach, well, it's not his first time being head coach. First year there, new ownership, new offense coordinator, brand new vibes all over the place taking on the Philadelphia Eagles. Who are six point favorites at home? How are they going to be able to adjust to Jalen Hurts knee injury? You know, the hip drop tackle potentially last week when he got rolled up on how healthy will he be? How will that Eagles offense looking with Saquon Barkley be able to run his way in his team to a Super Bowl we shall see? And then the Buffalo Bills look to do something that they've never been able to run his way and his team to a Super Bowl, we shall see. And then the Buffalo Bills look to do something

that they've never been able to do, which is beat Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City Chiefs into playoffs on the biggest stage of the AFC Championship. Two teams operating as buzz saws in the AFC with history and legacy and titles on the line. It is going to be an absolutely phenomenal Sunday, kicking off at three o'clock on Fox. And then obviously the CBS game

for the AFC Championship caps it off. Saturday night main event tomorrow night. Cannot wait for a fantastic weekend. We're lucky to be here. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. The Toxic Table's here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmitt. Con man, biggest story going on in the weekend.

Lineman being hurt. I believe Juergens is out, or at least hasn't practiced for the Eagles and of course Cosme for the commanders. He he tours ACL so he is definitely out this week and I think that is a massive storyline especially because Jalen Carter arguably the greatest you know defensive tackle in the history of football at least definitely. Aaron Donald will certainly have a conversation.

No doubt about it still him being there against the commies offense and kind of wreaking havoc. And then of course, the Eagles relying on Saquon that run defense with the injuries that they got. Goddard, I believe, is another guy who's kind of questionable on the fence, whether he's playing or not. I think that's a huge storyline. And then of course, Josh Allen, can he get it done? Yeah, Ty Schmin, what's your big storyline?

I think it is Josh Allen We talked about it a little bit yesterday I mean he could go from potentially this is the best season he's had in his career But if he doesn't win an MVP and they get beat then then what are we gonna talk about? It's it's all it's almost like it's all for not it. Can he get over the hump? Everyone knows about you know, Buffalo's postseason woes not just against the Chiefs, but in general So, I mean I think that it you either go from having all these personal accolades that you don't get you know and you don't win a Super Bowl or the bills go on they make the

Super Bowl potentially win it and then who cares if you want an MVP none of that stuff matters because it is about legacy. Let's go to one half of the hammer.Cowboys AP tone there's a rookie quarterback in the Chompy and ship round. Jaden Daniels who I just heard his mom give an interview And I don't know when it's from it's on prime. Yeah, what's your biggest worry about Jayden women? Mm-hmm He's gonna be single. Okay. He's got some things to accomplish you were keeping the women away from him She's his agent slash momager slash mom. I love everything about it. She's like, I'm gonna protect my boy Well what they've done with Jaden over there in DC

with Cliff Kingsbury is the OC. Terry McLaurin having obviously another highlight filled career. His career is awesome. And I'm so happy for him that he's got Jaden Daniels there. And I think going into this season, you know, is Caleb Williams going to be the guy? Is Drake May going to be the guy?

Is Michael Penick going to be the guy? Is Bo Nicks going to be the guy? Or is Jaden Daniels at LSU going to be the guy? He has Penick going to be the guy? Is Bo Nicks going to be the guy? Or is Jaden Daniels at LSU going to be the guy? He has too many weapons down there. What does he really want? He had to transfer, do that entire thing, LSU, and not national champions. How's he, is he going to be a guy or is he not going to?

He is, and he is special. This has been an elite season. He has a chance to do something no rookie quarterback has ever done. Now granted, he is obviously climbing the ranks of greatest rookie in the history of the NFL. I think people will talk about that regardless of how this game goes this weekend.

But Jaden Daniels is special and we get a chance to see it on Sunday. Yeah, he does have a chance to set history this weekend. I believe with a win this weekend, he will have the most wins in a rookie season passing Ben Rausberger if he wins this weekend. Also when you talk about rookie quarterbacks that have made it to this game, Ben being one of them, Joe Flacco being another one, there's a handful of others where they were on the team where they had like the number one points per game or yards per game defense.

He is the 18th ranked yards per game points per game defense. So like this is something that he's doing where it's not carried by the defense, it's carried by him and he is setting records. And he's going for one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time. Zach Ertz obviously tight end has become a massive piece for that Washington commander's offense and obviously Terry McLaurin we talked about him but what Jaden and that offensive line and Cliff have been able to do is mesmerizing feels like nobody wants the Eagles or the Chiefs to win. What? It does certainly feel like that. It does feel like that. It feels like nobody wants the Eagles or the Chiefs to win. Uh-uh.

Feels like everybody wants the Chiefs to lose because the Chiefs is the Chiefs and the Chiefs is still the Chiefs to win. Feels like everybody wants the Chiefs to lose because the Chiefs is the Chiefs and the Chiefs is still the Chiefs and until they lose in the playoffs, you can't say that they're no longer the Chiefs and the dynastic run is certainly gonna take a step higher if they win three straight Super Bowls. No team has ever done that in the modern era.

Nobody wants the Chiefs to win. They're at the top of the mountain. You know, just like Taylor Swift says, people throw rocks at things that shine and the Chiefs have been shining on the biggest stages for a long, long time now, especially during the 29-year-old Patrick Mahomes' career over there. He's been to the Super Bowl five times.

Absurd. Already, as a 29-year-old. Certainly has lost the Super Bowl before. This guy stinks. Certainly won a bunch as well. Nobody wants, everybody wants the Bills, seemingly, to beat the Chiefs. And then when you think about this Commander story,

it's like, yeah. I think football fans want the Commanders to win because you looked just one year ago, they were shite. Shite. Absolute shite. We're talking about down in the pit, just like the Bengals a couple years ago. Remember the Bengals a couple years back

before they make it to the Super Bowl and inevitably lose to the Los Angeles Rams in LA. They were at absolute shite show. I mean, then Joe Burrow gets healthy for a season, they make it to the Super Bowl and never lose to the Los Angeles Rams in LA. They were at absolute shite show. I mean then Joe Burrow gets healthy for a season, they make it to the Super Bowl. Teams and fans around the country are like, wait, if they can do it, we can do it. If the commanders are able to go from what they were,

laughing stock. What it was like, expose after expose, after book, after documentary, after lawsuit, after litigation, after everything. This team sucks. This team stinks. This team stinks. This team is a nothing franchise. This team should be kicked out of the league, Greg,

is what people were saying about the Washington commanders, formerly known as the Washington football team, formerly known as the, the Washington, what was the name of that? KJ Watts had it. Yeah. Oh, Redskins. The Washington Redskins is what they were.

Fans have been around for a long time, but they've been brutalized supporting that team for a very long time. Now, if you're a fan for another team that's kind of shite and kind of crap, you're like, all we are is one new ownership, one new head coach, one new quarterback away from potentially going to a Super Bowl,

which is why I think nobody really wants the Eagles, because I think people want to believe that their team can go from absolute ass and trash to absolute glory Which is what the commanders have been able to do Yeah, and if I don't know if people are betting with their hearts or not But that reflects in the public betting 68% of the bets are on the commanders 81% are on the Bills So yeah, exactly what that is exactly what this is Everybody wants you know

The Bills the top of the Chiefs and then if the Bills were to get to the commanders in the Super Bowl Hate to break to Bills mafia the world would not, the bill was the top of the Chiefs. And then if the bills were to get to the commanders in the Super Bowl, hate to break the bills, mafia of the world would not want the bill. They would want the commanders to win there. Now granted, history tells us that the Super Bowl logo and the color scheme that they choose, somehow, some way, has normally been the colors of the teams that play in the Super Bowl.

Red and green, pretty prominent in this particular logo. And I'm not saying there's a script. Hasn't been a lot of that talk this year. No, the Lord. Thank God, because the refs have sucked, certainly in different situations, but I think they've been good more than they've sucked. So shout out to the refs.

Good work, refs. Shout out to the refs. Now, I'm going to the Kansas City Chiefs alternate logo. People are saying, has stripes on it. And there's AI, and maybe AI for a lot of these photos, saying the Chiefs and the refs are on the same team and everything like that but feels like the script conversation this year has died down a lot than in previous years and I think it's because the refs have done much better than they have in the past but red green that says Chiefs Eagles are gonna win this if you

look in the past of these logos but nobody's looking for that con man. Yeah no not at all but I am in the camp of team Eagles. I think that the way the Eagles kind of did their entire team, there was a graphic earlier, they got the assistant coach of the year finalist with Vic Fangio. He's brand new to that team. Two of the five defensive rookie of the years, they're brand new obviously to the team. Defensive player of the year, brand new Zach Bond. Offensive player of the year and MVP Saquon brand new and as a as a person who has a team that is also shite

You know that is a way that I think you can do it draft free agency kind of flip your entire team because last year Obviously there are one and done in the playoffs against the Bucs actually Season almost tanked basically they were what 10 and 1 leading their division leading the conference This team's gonna get a first round by right to the shy just absolute shy show the rest of the season the Cowboys ended Up winning the division, but I want the Eagles to win I think the way their teams built is awesome running the football winning in the trenches I think is a very very easy way to kind of get those people to love you because it's grinding pound football and then of course you know one of the goats Bradley Cooper's a

fan of that too so I also want a little happiness for him and then yeah I think the Bills are universal I think the 81% shows that too just because people are sick of the Chiefs and of course selfishly as a Patriots fan if the Chiefs win three in a row that will have a better you that'll have the legs for greatest Dynasty of all time it comes as no surprise to like they've they've been telling us for a long time Sirianni said hey Ola D line how we all on D line, you know That's not just a moniker of a guy who everyone thinks is a dipshit It's it's actually how you build and construct a potential Super Bowl juggernaut

And that's what they've done. O-line D-line. Even though A.Q. Shipley doesn't believe it. No, he doesn't. He doesn't. That's unbelievable. Although he kind of does but then he doesn't. You know, he says they have the best O-line, but apparently that doesn't win you football games in the playoffs. Speaking of O-line, Deion Dawkins who's saying that before I'm done here, we're gonna have an award for the Fatso's. Now granted, we gave them out this year the Trenchies Deion Dawkins was a finalist Lane Johnson won the Trenchie for best tackle but here's Deion Dawkins saying the NFL needs to recognize the big boys as well. A thing for an individual that is a part of this league to be able to get an award for being great and I'll circle back on you know offensive

linemen don't have awards for being great You know there's not a protector of the year award I'm knocking at so many doors now to get this award going and I'm gonna head spirit and make sure that this gets done before I'm done playing Because so many greats there's so many greats We have great quarterbacks. We have great running backs. We have rushing titles we have quarterback passing titles all those titles are reflections of the alignment which are the protectors and Soon to come but yeah, I'm glad that That our make McDermott is up for an award

Hey, listen, I'm happy McDermott's up for an award. I'm happy Josh Allen's up for an award. Hey listen I'm happy McDermott's up for an award I'm happy Josh Allen's up for an award okay let James Cook probably up for an award but how about the big boys and I'm gonna continue to spearhead this entire thing which I respect once again we give away the Trenchies this year congrats to all the winners I think it's a very vital piece of an NFL team it's like the most important part of an NFL offense nothing Nothing goes unless your big boys have the ability to move other men and there's gonna be a battle of Goliaths this weekend on Sunday in Championship weekend. Now we turn our head to some breaking news. Congrats to Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll has been named the head coach of Las Vegas Raiders. This seems

like the worst kept secret in football over the last few days. Our circles were telling us that the internet was saying that Pete Carroll had a chance. Michael Lombardi, who I believe was speaking to Tom Brady throughout this entire process. Tom Brady leading the charge on the interviews of the head coach and the GM. GM Spy Tech from Tampa. When Tom was down there, got to know each other well. Pete Carroll is a guy that gives them immediate legitimacy. Now, he's 73 years old, it was a three-year deal with a fourth-year team option, he'd be 76 at the time, 77 at the time, anybody that's ever been around Pete Carroll that says this guy's like a

40 year old man, this guy's like a 30 year old, his energy is off the charts and if you do recall he was kicked out of the Seattle Seahawks organization, he didn't know he was gonna get fired whenever he got fired last year after last offseason, he walked in there and he said I fought like hell. I competed for my job to lay out how I think I could right the ship with this Seahawks team. So whenever he gets abruptly kicked out of the Seattle Seahawks organization, I think he had to figure out what the hell he was gonna do for a year. Then his name started getting mentioned, Chicago Bears maybe, Jerry

Jones allegedly been calling Pete Carroll, and we think we believe football guys are gonna remain football guys. Doesn't matter if you're 73, doesn't matter if you're 63, doesn't mean if you're 103. I think Pete Carroll knows exactly what to do. He's won a college national championship, he's won a Super Bowl championship, this guy knows ball and also oh yeah oh yeah he can spin it. Got a gun. There's videos of him in his 70s working with the scout team throwing balls no look throws his energy is contagious the way he goes about doing his thing. We all recognize and understand he's gonna bring a positivity a competitive mindset and hopefully the Raiders back into

Relevancy which is all anybody could hope for in the NFL because when the Raiders are good the NFL is better I love that Tom Brady made this pick. I love that. This is the Raiders are headed. They're gonna need a quarterback now. Is Russell Wilson? Oh, whoa. Who just spoke glowingly of Pete Carroll on our program the other day who's potentially a free agent going forward. Gonna reunite with Pete Carroll even though the way it ended wasn't how anybody would have expected or wanted. We shall see. I love the Pete Carroll hire in Las Vegas and Tom Brady didn't want to do brand new guy to find out if he's going to be head coach. I want to know what we're getting. Pete Carroll you know exactly what you're getting Con Man. Yeah it's like another culture hire like

for New England with Rable this is the same exact thing with Pete Carroll. A building that's kind of been turned over what twice in the last two years basically. You could argue three times in the last two years basically you could argue three times in the last two years but this is awesome and then yeah the division itself is asinine the fact that it's harbaugh carol payton reed three of those four of one super bowl has jim harbaugh's been to a super bowl also a national champion in college like all these guys know how to win i i mean you could easily make the argument this is now the toughest division in football with Pete Carroll if he's able to Turn around the Raiders, which I think we all believe he is I mean the NFC East has two teams in the conference championship, so obviously we have to pay them respect

But whenever you look at this murders row of great coaches in the AFC West you have to have the conversation now Everybody's chasing the big one on the far right Everyone's chasing now this is kind of what happened. you know, when the Patriots were doing their thing, they just murdered the AFC East, a lot of change, and all those other places. Well, if the Patriots were able to, how come we're not able to do it? In the AFC South, when Peyton Manning

and the boys were running the coats, a lot of turnovers trying to chase it. Now, you see these three other teams trying to catch up to the Chiefs, three other teams with opportunity, and you go down, Jim Harbaugh, we love him. We absolutely love him. The man. Got a quarterback.

Sean Payton, we love him. absolutely love him the man got a quarterback Sean Payton we love him absolutely love him got a quarterback yep Andy Reid we love him got a quarterback the only thing Pete Carroll doesn't have is a quarterback over there in Las Vegas I'll be eager to see what they decide to do go ahead tone because of his age do you think we should pay attention to who the OC and DC hires are to see if like maybe during his interview process there was a Potential succession plan like hey after I have someone in mind who I think would be a great head coach moving forward After my three or four years. Do you do you think that could have potentially been like part of the interview process because of his age? I was just thinking off. I'm not sure I don't think they're thinking about the future

I think they're thinking about right now. I think Tom Brady had to check to see hey you eating avocado ice cream Are you eating sure? You know Derek Winnigrader sure Ben and Jerry's what is your turkic come on so good yeah it's got a little crack to the top there at the top yeah the top is so good can't be having too much of that obviously but that's nice I'll hurry but Pete Carroll 73 is not doing that no we would assume he's taking care of himself everybody that's been around him said his energy is awesome. Congrats to Pete Carole getting a job back in the NFL

where we assumed he would always be. Then let's go down to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Wow, there's chaos. There's absolute chaos. It's been a lot of terrible things said about this guy from the people of Tampa Bay. Liam Cohen, the new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Congrats to him.

I think there's been a lot of potential misreporting. Maybe, I don't know. Reports say reports say this reports say that there's been chaos through this Liam Cohen situation I'll start Sunday January 12th Jack's owner says GM bulky would be fired if a new head coach wants him out remember This is on a zoom call. We saw it was awesome Shahid Khan shot con and Trent bulky were sitting on a zoom They're only two on a screen. He was asked if a new coach wants a new GM would you do it he goes absolutely I get rid of this guy if that's what a coach wants. Palky just has to sit there and take it he's been there for a long long time then on Wednesday Cohen interviews

on Zoom then on Monday January 20th Cohen interviews in person remember Baker Mayfield is not getting people jobs. Oh yeah. Baker Mayfield's success has gotten people jobs. Obviously, Canales with Carolina, now with Liam Cohen, then on Wednesday, January 22nd, two days after he interviews in person, allegedly he withdrew his name from the Jaguars head coaching search and got a deal from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to either double his salary but at least make it the biggest coordinator salary in the history of the NFL.

We reach out to some people that know this world well, and we said, hey, when somebody removes their name from a head coaching search, why is it? Or it gets reported that a coach removes his name from a head coaching search, what does that mean? Well, it potentially means that the owner of the team he's currently on said, hey, here's a new deal, all you do is remove your name,

you'd rather have bird in the hand than two in the bush you'd rather have a guaranteed massive contract than a potential massive contract or that person thinks that they're not gonna get the job we're not gonna do the song and dance anymore want to refocus well it was reported that he was given a massive pay increase to be stay with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers once again we don't know if Liam Cohen said any of this this is all the things that are just being reported. Then you go a day later, Cohen didn't sign his contract. He meets with the Jags again in secrecy allegedly.

Then we get to last night, he's offered the job. Now he's making 13 million a year allegedly. For the next five years, it's like 60 million bucks or something. Joining us now is a man who probably knows the ins and outs a little bit better. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans are saying this guy's a scumbag.

This guy is a scumbag. But if you're a Jacksonville Jaguars fan, you've got to be pumped that Trevor Lawrence is going to get an offensive guru to potentially get everything rolling over there. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Yeah, Shepty. Shepty, we know you're very busy. We appreciate the hell out of you. It was reported all these things about Liam Cohen.

He withdrew his name He did this he did that his wife has come out and said that their kid was sick during all this So what's real? What is what do you think is real? What isn't at this moment Schefter? Well, I think there's two different sides of this. Okay, I think Liam Cohen would tell you that he feels like this was his right. And by the way, in the NFL with contracts, even if there's a signed contract as a coordinator, it is within your rights to go take a head coaching job anywhere else you want.

I think that he felt like the Buccaneers, right or wrong, I'm just telling you what he felt like, the Buccaneers strong-armored him into this deal, and he signed the deal, and the Buccaneers strong arm them into this deal and he signed the deal and the Buccaneers would say we made him the highest paid coordinator in NFL history and then when we tried to figure out where he was, we could not find him throughout the course of the day on Thursday to get him to sign that contract. And they say that they reached out multiple times. He says he was in touch with Todd Bowles

and informed him of his decision to interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Again, there are two different versions to this and how this is gonna go. Hold on one second, hold on one second. Hold on one second. We'll mute you, we'll mute you. There's obviously a couple, Saints in Dallas are now the only remaining head coaching spots.

Schefter potentially, uh, is getting information on that. Or maybe an OC job or DC job at one of these new places. He said turn to the side. Yeah, I'm on TV. I'll talk to you in a second. Okay? Here we go. And we're back. Okay. Yeah, I'm r. I'm back. Yep. So again, I think Liam Cohn has his thoughts and the Buccaneers have their thoughts and you could believe whatever you want I'm just telling you there's two different schools of thought and I would say this in

20 years The this century since the turn of the same. I don't remember the last time I heard one team this hot and bothered about a coach taking another deal. Like they were hot. But by the way, his side is like, we didn't do anything wrong. We were exploring our rights. We took this contract.

We let them know. Again, you believe what you want to believe. I'm just the messenger giving all the sides of the story. Standard operating procedure though from ownership, whenever a coach is potentially in the mix for another head coaching job, a coordinator is to offer a little bit more money to withdraw the name though, right? This is standard operating procedure the way this normally works? It withdraw the name. What do you mean? I, you froze there for a moment. I'm sorry. I didn't hear you that. So whenever an owner comes to a coordinator and his name is up for a job they this is very

normal procedure from teams to offer a big pay raise to withdraw your name right I don't think that's standard I think that this was an exception they were making him the highest paid coordinator but I think his camp felt like they were being, again, I'll use that word, strong armed into a deal. And I don't know why, but they felt that way. That's how they felt. And the Buccaneers say, we should be so fortunate to be strong armed into a deal that would make us the highest paid coordinator in the game.

Like, again, everybody's got their side. So I'm trying to be fair to everybody here. And it's not easy because there's a lot of different versions of how this is going down. So I can just tell you that, like I said, I don't remember the last time I heard a team that irate over a coaching decision. Okay, so Tampa's pissed. All right, we shall see how that ends up working out with Kellen. They lose SpyTech over to Las Vegas, their assistant general manager. Let's talk about Las Vegas, they hire Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll's name was dropped I think in the Chicago Bears, we thought maybe it was an

agent working this entire thing, how real was Pete Carroll to anywhere other than Las Vegas? Hold on, hold on, hold on, so it wasn't an agent working the entire thing on Pete Carroll Pat? It wasn't? Turns out, turns out potentially not, so that's what I want to talk about, how real was Pete Carroll anywhere Pat? It wasn't? Turns out, turns out potentially not. So that's what I want to talk about. How real is Pete Carroll anywhere else other than Las Vegas? And why do you think Tom Brady inevitably went this way? Because we have been told that Tom was kind of him in Davis Both, but Tom was running the interviews basically for the Raiders.

Yeah, I think that this was all about Tom leading an organization and finding somebody that he had respect for. Look, they were interested in Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson opted to go to Chicago. And I think when you're the Raiders and you don't have a quarterback and you feel like you need to reset some things, you're trying to get somebody that they feel like needs to turn around the culture and help build the program back up. That's how they feel. And so they know there's no quick fixes. So I think they think that by bringing in Pete, who is, he's, this guy's incredible.

Like he has got so much energy and he is such an inspiration. If we go back to O's, right, it took O's to Seattle to perform for the Seahawks a few summers ago. And I've been to- Pete figured them out. What? Pete figured it out. Pete figured out O's.

Well, first, mesmerized by O's, right? And so he couldn't ask enough questions in all the anyway he brings into the meeting room in the morning and I'm sure like a lot of teams have versions this but I'd never seen it like it was like a DJ upfront it was like nightclub music songs I never heard that I downloaded into my Spotify so I could listen to it because it just felt like I was like pumped up they had basketball hoops and guys shooting hoops and dancing and Pete coming and it's rah rah

And they're young like I got tired being at the meeting for three hours Like I was worn out by the end of the meeting and this guy is unbelievable. And so he's 73 years old He's gonna be the oldest head coach in the history of the National Football League next season to tie this all together national football league next season. To tie this all together, when Pete Carroll was in his very first season as the head coach of the New York Jets, his very first first-round draft pick in 1994, I believe it was, was Aaron Glenn. 30 plus years later, Aaron Glenn is hired as the head coach of the New York Jets and Pete Carroll is hired as the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, so his very first draft pick is now a head coach. He's got so much energy and I think that the Raiders felt like, okay,

we know this is gonna be a little while. We don't have the quarterback we want. We wanna make this program, this organization competitive, have the culture right, start building it the right way. So that when we get the players we want and need, when we get the quarterback in here, that we want and need, when we get the quarterback in here, that we want and need that can keep up, hopefully, with Mahomes and Herbert and Bo Nicks, that Pete Carroll lift that program up and get it into a spot where whenever he decides he doesn't want to

coach anymore, they move on from him, that he's passing off the baton and the team continues moving forward. Okay. Do we know who his coordinator isators gonna be and everything like that? We have any clue or any Inkling on who could potentially be joining him out there in Las Vegas Not yet. Not yet We'll see how that goes. I don't know who is offensive quarter. That'll be a big hire and

The quarterback issue will be a big decision that that team has to make between the input of Tom Brady and Pete Carroll. So we'll see. Not gonna be Liam Cohn. Okay, yeah, not gonna be Liam Cohn. He's not gonna be at Tampa either. Sorry Tampa. Go Bolts down there, but go the hell out of here Liam Cohn. I don't know if he's welcome back in Tampa ever. Beautiful city. Jacksonville will certainly love him if he wins two more jobs open con man has a question for you Yeah, chef T who's left for the Saints is big Mike McCarthy still probably one of the guys that's gonna get tagged down there as the head Coach or is there another coordinator? Maybe like a Brian Flores or something along those lines who's kind of been forgotten about in this process that might get hired

Well, I think today they have Anthony Weaver in, and tomorrow they have Mike Kafka, the Giants offensive coordinator in. And then next week, I think you have to see how these playoff games play out this weekend. Cliff Kingsbury, the commanders, OC, Kellan Moore, the Eagles, OC, Joe Brady, the Bills, OC, all have been a link to them. I don't even remember which ones virtually interviewed with the Saints to begin with. They're all in play, and Mike McCarthy's in play. So you're looking for an answer, and there's a lot of different guys in that mix right

now. I think Mike McCarthy makes a lot of sense there. He's got deep ties and connections to the organization. We'll see ultimately if he's the guy, but I think there are some other guys that are interesting to this organization, and I don't think they're there just yet. Mike McCarthy has deep ties to the Saints? Well he he's worked and known some of those guys I think he worked in New Orleans I'm pretty sure he worked in New Orleans and knows some of the people there. Okay nice Mike McCarthy's he

ends he's beloved everywhere. Yeah. We understand is he potentially going back to Dallas they don't have a job either You mentioned Kelly Moe Ty has a question for you Yeah chef the reports now have been really heating up that hey Brian Schottenheimer is kind of gonna be the next guy They're just kind of waiting to maybe finalize it Is there any movement on that or is that a bunch of BS and is you know a guy like Kelly Moe? Still potentially gonna be the Cowboys head coach You know like Kelly Moe still potentially going to be the Cowboys head coach? It's hard to tell because I think one guy determines that and one guy can change his

mind at any moment and one guy can wake up today and say, you know what, I know we've done a lot of work into Brian Schottenheimer, but I feel like Deion Sanders or Jason Whitten would be the best for this. Again, I don't know what Jerry Jones is going to be feeling today. I think they spent a lot of time on Brian Schottenheimer. I think that makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels. But ultimately, one guy is going to make this decision. Until he makes the decision, we don't know exactly what direction this is going to go.

So it's hard to hit it on somebody until they're moving forward with that decision. And as of last night, they hadn't moved forward on any decision to my knowledge. Um, okay. So is this going to end today? You think coaching cycle? No, the saints will go into next week because they're going to wait for the games. The Cowboys could end today, could end next week. We don't know when Jerry's going to decide to make a decision.

That could be any time. So you got those two. We need a GM in New York. I know there are reports that Darin Muzhi is in line, but again, the Jets just texted me, we have an offer, we have made a decision. The Broncos said we're sitting with him here in Denver. He hasn't received an offer yet. So we'll see how that plays out.

It wouldn't surprise me if he winds up being the guy we're waiting to see who Jacksonville hires as a general manager still So what are we missing? We're missing a Jets GM. We're missing a Jaguars GM and we're missing two head coaches in New Orleans in Dallas Correct. I think that's it. Am I missing anybody right now? That's how we feel as well That's how we're seeing the entire thing. This is Sheffy season too, right? I mean, you've been on it the entire time here. This is a busy time for you. You know what, Pat? It's funny. I had somebody call me this morning.

They're like, where does this rank in terms of busy times of the year? And I really think that when it comes to the NFL, everything when it's happening is the busiest time of the year. That a baby. The trade deadline as it's happening is the busiest time of the year. The trade deadline as it's unfolding is the busiest time of the year. The head coaching, hiring and firing,

when that happens, that's the busiest time of the year. When free agency happens, that's the busiest time. When the draft happens, that's the busiest time. When training camp opens, that's the busiest time. When the season gets underway, that's the busiest. They're all busy because people love football. The greatest reality show going what there are storylines like Liam Cohn and Pete Carroll that you never could predict in a million years and so people love these storylines they love their teams great passion for the

sport and and so it's it's always busy and it's gonna keep staying busy what's the most important game, Schefter? Most important game? Yeah. Well, they're both important. Why is one more this weekend? The next one. Okay. That's a mindset the players have. That seems like that's a mindset you have as an insider as well.

Everything's the most busy and the most important because we're in the middle of it right now. Speaking of the two games, I know this is out of the coaching world a little bit. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Shafty, injury wise, what are the Eagles working with? Cuz I saw something about Juergens not being at practice, same with Goddard. And then Taylor Rapp out for the Bills. Are there any other injuries we should be looking at going into the weekend? Well, I think the big ones are obviously Jalen Hurts and

Queen on Mitchell. Both guys were listed in full on the injury report yesterday so they're playing and what I think the whole question is is Jalen Hurts 100% 90% 70 like what is he and I don't know that we're gonna know until we see him out there on Sunday I think you know it's really significant the commanders lost their best offensive lineman Sam Cosme last week to the tourney. He lines up directly across from Jalen Carter. So that's a big challenge that they're gonna have to overcome this week.

So no Taylor wrap for the Bills, the Chiefs are healthy. We'll see about Hertz and Mitchell, no Cosme. What about Jermyngens for Philly? This is just playoffs, let's get him to the game? I don't have an answer there. I've had a couple of people raise that to me, but I don't know specifically where that's at right now. Raise that to you, that means he's potentially out or they're just asking?

No, people ask me what's the deal and I'm like, I don't know. I need to check into that, but I've been busy with Pete Carroll, Liam Cohn, and the other openings so I haven't had time to check on Cam Jergens. All right well we appreciate you doing your thing we'll continue to follow along with your Twitter account obviously you're on top of it you're the man we appreciate you brother. Guys enjoy the games this weekend we'll talk Monday look forward to it thank you for having me today. You got it ladies and gentlemen Adam Schefter. What's up, Spotify? This is Holly. I remember this one time we were on tour.

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Knowledge. Created by football legends for football fans. New episodes of coach drop weekly. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Tampa Bay Buccaneers are irate. Never, never seen that. We, we talked to our source sis that said when somebody withdraws their name from a head coaching role ownership giving a raise very standard operating procedure so I think she after maybe misheard what I said because you want to get to the point that Tampa's pissed about how this whole thing works because if they're raising you giving you a raise of double and a half whatever it

is that's so you we don't have to worry about this anymore and then you say yeah yeah yeah cool cool cool hey is that 13 million still available after you fired that GM that I fucking hate it yeah deal sorry about Tampa I'm moving north in this particular state that we're into Jacksonville and it's like sucks that that happens but also Liam Cohen can't turn down a head coaching job, so Robert Salo was allegedly on his way down there to interview We all assume now he's gonna be a San Francisco 49er defense coordinator, which was kind of the thought Immediately upon him leaving the Jets. He goes over the Green Bay Packers. He's friends with the floor. He was in his wedding

He's consulting he's advising with the way the Niner season went. We all assumed he potentially gets back into the DC job because he's owed guaranteed money from the New York Jets to be the head coach. Mike Silver says I fully expect him to be the 49ers DC. I think that was kind of something anybody could have fully expected because that's where he got famous from. That's why he became the head coach of the Jets, they're that particular piece, but he was allegedly gonna interview for the Jags job He turned playing around allegedly left when Liam Cohen gets gig

Fascinating development down there in Jacksonville Yeah I think a report I read part of the secrecy too was that they had Patrick Graham in For an interview and they he was the second Rooney rule guy that they had in in person So they didn't want it to leak out Hey Cohen's the guy we want because they didn't want him to get spooked by that and leave and then there's all the you know Hey, the the Rays is contingent upon you not taking the second person

You're the second in person interview and then I think it was a Jag staffer that tipped off someone in the Bucks building Hey, Liam Cohen's in the building right now. So like it is kind crazy. You gotta get that asshole out of the Jags building. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, exactly need to get that out of the back. First of all Obviously shout out to the Bucs getting the information, but if you're the Jacks for Jaguars, that's your big problem right there For sure. So somebody in your building was like, hey You saw this here. Why is anybody in your building talking about anything? Yeah, that's you get to the bottom of it if you want. Chief football strategist Tony Khan, I assume will get to the bottom of that town there.

Liam Cohen, does he know what he's signing up for down there in Jacksonville? I think that's a big question. Ben Johnson setting the bar 13 million per year for new head coaches. Liam Cohen seeing that, getting that, obviously awesome. We still don't know what Kevin O'Connell got, but we assume it is gigantic. Pete Carroll's number is gonna be big There's no salary cap on coaches contracts You can spend whatever these guys are making a pretty penny all fully guaranteed as well Conrad. Well, that's right your Tampa

It's like come on Like I think about McDaniel's where McDaniel's turned the plate around when he was gonna be the coach the head coach at Indy But he already had you know a head coaching gig in Denver It's like Liam Cohen's never been a head coach at Indy, but he already had, you know, a head coaching gig in Denver. It's like Liam Cohen's never been a head coach. Like how often is this going to happen? Especially when you look at the season, like are they going to be great every single year? Yeah, but he lied. Yeah, I understand that. And maybe that's part of it. But I mean, that's business, baby. He lied. Sorry. Same with Ben Johnson. Like he's never been a head coach too. Yes, I know I get it. Everyone's pissed that he went into the division

But if he felt that was the best fit for him like that was the best fit for him He earned that yeah, Detroit Lions fans kind of got off the hook because I'm mad damn big Buccaneers fans Oh, and then Liam Cohen's wife coming out and being like our son is battling an autoimmune disease We're in the hospital throughout a lot of this. So maybe there's some miscommunication as well You know, maybe our side hasn't been told We help the kids okay. Sorry, I apologize. Congrats on 60 million dollars. Instead of the 15 million, whatever it was supposed to be. But nonetheless, no matter how pissed off Tampa is, they have to find a new offensive coordinator. That's back-to-back years they've had to do that because Baker Mayfield, so damn good.

Let's talk about a situation that wasn't great the end of the Baltimore Ravens season now with a minute 33 left in the game Lamar Jackson the Baltimore Ravens won for two to tie it up against Buffalo Bills Buffalo Bills still had a couple timeouts Mm-hmm, Josh Allen still playing like Josh Allen But to tie the game Lamar Jackson try to throw a little out to Mark Andrews He drops it a little behind whatever the case the world started burying Mark Andrews obviously immediately Mark Andrews if he continues to go in the path that he's going He's gonna have to win a Super Bowl obviously a potential Hall of Fame tight end what him and Lamar Jackson have done Absolutely impactful. He's a captain of that Baltimore Ravens team He had a touchdown like six or seven straight games for the Baltimore Ravens one of their pillars

One of their great players has this drop obviously Lamar says he should have thrown it better It's on all of us. But the big story is there's a minute 33 left, you know. Is Josh Allen going to go down the field and kick a field goal? Probably. I like to think probably. But maybe Lamar gets a chance to answer again. Anyways, Mark Andrew didn't talk to the media afterwards. Didn't talk to the media on clean out locker day in Baltimore.

Instead, he waited for a post on Instagram that he put out. It's impossible to adequately express how I feel I'm absolutely gutted by what happened on Sunday. I'm devastated for my teammates my coaches and Ravens fans I pour every ounce of my being into playing at the highest level possible because I love my team and the game of football like Nothing else that is why it has taken me until now to collect my thoughts and address this publicly. Even though the shock and disappointment are unlike anything I felt before, I refuse to let this situation define me.

I promise that this adversity will only make me stronger and fuel us as we move forward. I think everyone who has shown me and our team genuine support these past several days, despite the negativity, which there's a lot. I've seen heartfelt love and encouragement, including from those who have generously donated to Breakthrough T1D organization, which is a type one diabetes foundation that I believe we donated to as well because he scored a touchdown in five straight games. Even when the moment seems darkest, perspective can reveal that there's still a lot of light

in this world. I'm now going to do my part to bounce back and contribute to it. That was great to read. I'm happy for you, Mark. Yeah. You don't have to answer anybody. He felt terrible, but yeah, I mean that ball not secured is very abnormal for Mark Andrews football. I appreciate him addressing it.

There was a lot of media people going, he needs to talk to us. Don't you need to answer? Oh yeah. Tell me. And he's answered to me for what this is I think there are some rules for players having to speak to media so I assume there'll be some sort of fallout from that entire thing him doing it this way collecting his thoughts not saying anything too stupid immediately after a game I think is good but obviously there's people that think it's terrible yeah and Cam Newton said it best yesterday you know it's not as if just

athletes should be held to the standard every everyone show but I mean it sucks and I think that message is awesome, too Just because it shows how you know, hey you guys feel bad Like you have no idea how pissed off I am about this Like of course, I wanted to catch the damn ball I just it didn't happen and also a minute thirty left two timeouts for the Buffalo Bills at home Yeah, just acting like that one was over exactly acting as if that's going to overtime Yeah, like no matter what because he dropped that like I think we all agree the Bills are still winning that game in regulation Like it's not as if that's how we feel but obviously football could be different and I assume the Baltimore Ravens defense would say

Well, where's chance we get a three and out sure and we get the ball back and we actually go win that thing Nonetheless, it ends up not working out. I agree with you though I think Josh Allen goes down Tyler Bass probably kicks one through they win it That's not how Ravens fans feel Ravens fans also understand how important Mark Andrews has been to that team I think it's more so people that are like Kind of at a 30,000 foot view that we're trying to kill him and wanted to hear from him Yeah, I'm sure there is you know some Ravens Ravens fans because there's there's fans like that in every single fan base You know the lunatic fringe if you will

But you know Hopefully the majority of them do right because I mean he's their all-time leading touchdown scorer in the history of the franchise like Mark Andrews is an incredible player. Obviously. He wanted to catch that football. Obviously. He didn't want to you know fumble that ball earlier in the game like but like We say this all the time, yes, those plays stand out, but those were not the only plays that the Ravens didn't make or didn't make a mistake on in that game. So yeah, I feel bad for Mark Andrews.

I'm sure he feels a lot worse than anyone else could feel at him. So yeah. It's gonna be a great off season for Mark Andrews. Obviously, anytime that's the final taste in your mouth going into an off season, it's gonna be a little bit more motivating. Not that he hasn't been a pro his entire career He has that Baltimore Ravens seem going to continue to get hungrier a lot of people watch this Yeah, a lot of people watch this numbers are out

42.2 million average viewers for Ravens bills the Battle of Lamar in Josh Allen Inevitably the bills win winning by two and then the National Championship Ohio State Notre Dame averaged 22.1 with a peak at 26.1 million viewers. Obviously congratulations to football dominated. Let's go. Dominated. Whenever it comes to linear television and TV as a whole, football is really the only thing that's driving any numbers for linear television and everything like that. There's entire businesses trying to be built to get to that someday. The NFL is here and only climbing college ball

though down they said from last year to this year. Is it college football fatigue was at the timing obviously was Inauguration Day. There's a lot going on on Monday Martin Luther King Jr. Day. It was a longer season this year. What do you think it is or are we just in a new world or maybe not as many people are watching TV and they're getting it from other places time I think that's certainly a part of it there are just so many options and I think fatigue is definitely definitely a part of it I mean it was that we talked about it like that is such a long season it is and even though those games like each one

that we you know went week after week and, wow, this is an incredible matchup. It does wear on you a little bit, especially when it's sandwiched in between or around playoff football. But also, ESPN's cable. It's not basic. Now, granted, the NFL is, regardless of what it's on, it's going to draw numbers like that because it's on, it's gonna draw numbers like that because it's king, but if you know if this the national championship was on CBS or NBC or you know something like that, I'm sure the numbers would have been absolutely astronomical you

know but it's on it's on cable not everyone has cable you have to you know you have to go find it if you're not already watching it but I mean I don't think they have anything to be worried about I think they look at it as a whole and it's like, hey, this is still crushed. Twenty two point one million average viewers is a huge number. A lot of largest non NFL event for ESPN of the year. There's been some breaking news from the college football playoff. The twenty twenty seven national championship will be in Las Vegas. Congratulations to Las Vegas getting the college football national championship. Next year, it's in Miami down. Oh wow. Congratulations to Las Vegas getting the college football

national championship. Next year it's in Miami down at the Orange Bowl. The following year it'll be in Las Vegas. I'm excited to see how it all works out and continues. Will they change the schedule and the calendar so it doesn't draw out as long? You know 12-team playoff more schools get a shot to shine starting at 12 counting down to one. That's how they crown a CFP. National. Champion. But it did kind of linger, seemingly. Much longer than anybody could have imagined.

This one is on Monday, January 25th, 2027. Excited to see how they combat that going forward. I just looked up to Ty's point, because I was wondering, beginning in 2027, ABC will simulcast the College Football Playoff National Championship with ESPN. We assume it'll be gigantic, you know, because obviously that game's on CBS, which if you have bunny ears, you can see it and also I Don't want to say this yet again

these numbers Sure Black boxes some people have them. Some people don't math equation Who's what? There's 11 different ways to watch we said on Monday Yeah, so how they tracking everything you know I don't cable YouTube TV Hulu How do they track everything your phone? I don't know how the foo ball I have YouTube TV and Hulu I'm about sick of Hulu not letting me log in This is your home base. You can only move your home base four times

Well, what the fuck do I got a streaming platform for if I can't log in? Isn't that the whole point? Isn't that what I'm doing? I'm trying to cut the cable so I can log in. Well you've changed four times. It's like no shit, I'm on move. YouTube TV just kind of lets me do whatever.

They do. That's why I got this thing. The goat. Yeah, I know who it is. I'm here temporarily. Is it Disney Entity or whatever? And it's like you guys need to figure it out because Google's just smacking you around. around they have whenever it comes to YouTube TV

If I have to see my hulu tell me I can't log in again while still charging me. Oh, yeah, I'm about done with it I am I'm bought over it. I thought that's what we were trying to do this. But how does Nielsen modern Google Hulu? Linear how does it? I don't there's no way that once again, this is Us understanding that we benefit from these things because now that we are on our show is licensed through ESPN There is a ratings release and yada yada yada and everything but even when those come out It's like how do they know how do they have any idea who's watching what especially with us being actually on YouTube? Tick tock live tick tock live is going. Oh, yeah Through the roof. Yeah, we need to talk to mr. Nielsen

Ed she's still on Liam Leslie Liam Nielsen, is he the one counting him? He might be is it Liam good Particularly a Mason alive Leslie Nielsen very much dead Oh, Leslie Nielsen is you got to be like a little person at a urinal always on your toes Bingo. Yes. Yes. Right. That's Leslie Nielsen. Yeah. Yeah always on your toes. That's what you gotta do legit. Yeah Some of those urinals are so low though. Tiny and they're like half buckets. The old school our school ones They just went straight to the floor. Yeah, I don't mind that either

But the ones that are cut off down there at my shins It's like that's definitely gonna bounce on my pants almost meant for you to piss all over yourself Yeah, I feel like we could have done better with that whenever we created those somebody that created the urinal was like genius, right? Yeah, check it out. I was like, yeah less water didn't change it forever. It's like I don't know if that's right I like the floor ones. I like the ones that go all the way to the floor I don't mind it. I don't mind ice in there either. You ever seen an ice one? I don't mind ice. Great. Ice is great. Troughs?

I'm not a big trough guy. I'm not a big trough guy. We're about to blow back. Yeah, but in the modern world that I'm currently in, trough is my biggest nightmare. Absolutely. Yeah, the amount of selfie videos that I walk in. But if just in your home, if you wanted one in your home, you could have one in your home. Oh, the dream.

Remember that guy, remember that guy, a trough in the house? I don't know, boys. I don't know. I think there's some that guy a trough in the house. Oh god. I don't know boys. I don't know I think there's some drawbacks to get it off I mean commercial obviously gotta go stadium do that remember the guy in Cleveland did the whole oh, yeah, I slid in it Yeah, that's got disgusted. Yeah, that's bad Notre Dame Ohio State twenty two point one million average viewers says Nielsen who knows that means there's some stories coming out of that game For instance, I mentioned it a few different times Jeremiah Smith Nielsen who knows what that means there's some stories coming out of that game for instance. I mentioned it a few different times

Jeremiah Smith Is gonna get a massive offer. Yep immediately after this season's over That's what the NIO is that actually led to coach Saban saying to your point about that We need some sort of you know We shouldn't be saying that Jeremiah Smith it might be gone from Ohio State immediately after this national championship Because the way the world is it's's like, well, there is a chance. And allegedly, Jeremiah Smith has been offered $4.5 million. Carnell Tate, the other wide receiver alongside Ibuka and JJ Smith, a million dollars plus offer in Transreportal.

We don't know what's real and what isn't real in these reportings. Remember, North Carolina allegedly offered Quinn Ubers $8 million or something. Michael Lombardi said, that didn't come from me I don't know who that we like Quinn yours, but we're not spending eight million on a quarterback Especially if he's never done anything here there is every team in college ball that would try to get Jeremiah Smith on their team so I assume Ohio State's gonna have to deal with that and Well, they just have to up their roster up their salary cap and as Jeremiah Smith the guy that says I don't want to hear it I'm cool with what I'm doing right here.

I know I'm on a trajectory to get to the NFL. Luckily, Ohio State feels like that's not a place that wide receivers normally leave. You know, with that heartline with Ryan Day, with Chip Kelly now, with how well Jeremiah Smith performed in that offense just as a freshman, you would hope that he would realize that and not be antagonized away. You know, Cardinal Tateate I have seen a bunch of stuff about you know if he will

or not but also being the number two to Jeremiah Smith in Ohio State offense just like a Mecca Bucca was to Jeremiah Smith and then Marvin Williams Jr. last year like that's not a bad spot either you would hope these guys realize this but no like Saban Saban said, this shouldn't, like this sucks. Like that is a thing that Ohio State, it's like, I mean, I guess they earned it, but Ohio State should have the money to keep their guys. Yeah, and we all, we talked about them having the money at the beginning of the season.

They're not the only ones. There's a lot of teams that have a lot of money. And all you need is one donor, one booster to be like, I want Jeremiah Smith on our team. How much money are you willing to pay? 10 million, I don't know, what do you, what do we need to get him here? Because he's a game changer. And by the way, he is. And I hope

you get all the money you deserve, Jeremiah, because of how great you are, how humble you are, your work ethic, and what you do on a football field. He changes the math. We were on the field watching it. Even against Texas, he did not play great, right? Yeah. Did not play great. Didn't have a bunch of production. He had one catch for three receptions. Well, he had a safety linebacker and a corner over top of him. That opens up everything else from maybe Judkins, Henderson, Tate, and Ibuka to your point in there.

He's a game changer, he's a math changer, and Chip Kelly was just starting to cook with him with one year, hopefully it all gets figured out. Notre Dame now, they also have some stuff going on. Center for Notre Dame, Pat Coogan, the one who gives the pregame speech, and at end he goes for God, for country, and for Notre Dame f**king football. Every single week was their leader. He's entered the transfer portal alongside Rocco Spindler. These are two key pieces obviously to that Notre Dame offensive line which was able to get them all the way to the national championship. I guess they weren't the starters going into the year though tone

Yeah so when I saw the news I was like that's that feels weird because not only one it feels like a team that just got to The national championship you would think guys wouldn't want to be leaving there and then on top of that You know Ohio State got to the national championship and they get 20 million dollars that 20 million dollars goes the Big Ten Notre Dame doesn't have a conference so they just got 20 million dollars I'm like they don't they're not gonna have a problem paying their players, like it can't be, that's why.

So I looked it up, they were not starters to begin the season, they became starters because of injuries. They're both graduates, and the starters that were supposed to start at the beginning of the season, I believe, are back. So it was kind of a situation where were they gonna be starters still?

So I thought it might be something, but the more you look into it and they have a two five star Freshman coming in so it might just be like a numbers game situation. Hey pat. You're a dog. Yes, you're a leader I'm excited to see where you end up at You can come get a hard edge of wishes We would love you over there. We would love him over there. I assume he's gonna end up going Big think tennessee was he the one one of their one of their other ones But but also like what we've been talking about with how long the season is like granted You don't want obviously this is you know having two starters whether or not they were starters at the start of the year like

You need a bunch of death on your offensive line, and that's kind of what killed them You know going down the stretch was they had to plug in play with just a bunch of these different combinations. So that's going to be much harder going forward, obviously, when you got these four and five star recruits who are kind of buried on the depth chart and they want to go somewhere and they want to play. But in today's college football, like you, you almost need to be, if they're going to be playing 16 game seasons, like you almost need to be three deep at every position on the offensive line Okay, Notre Dame is gonna have to fill in another a very vital role Al Golden defense coordinator has finalized a deal to become the Bengals defense coordinator Wow

Lou Anna Rumo Bengals defense coordinator for the past 10 years or whatever is now with Indianapolis Colts is DC I liked his opening press conference said I'm gonna tell the truth to everybody around here every single day got a lot of talent Hopefully he's able to do well Al Golden what he was able to do at Notre Dame this year Fantastic, you know, this is a part of being great, you know, the Detroit Lions are kind of going through that right now Notre Dame's going through it. This is a part of it. Whenever you win, there's enough to go around It doesn't mean it's gonna be with you though or with the team that you're currently on People are gonna try to pluck greatness out golden heading back back to the Cincinnati to be with the Bengals. How do you feel about the move there at Boston, Connor?

I think it's awesome for all golden. It's kind of sweet. We saw with Jeff Halfley last year from going from BC to Green Bay and granted he was the head coach. But I don't think this affects Notre Dame as much as like the transfers just because Marcus Freeman is the defensive guy over there, right? He's kind of the one steering the ship.

I know he's not calling plays, but because he is a defensive guy, do you think that matters? Yeah, I saw a lot of people talking about the DB coach maybe for Notre Dame, getting promoted to defense coordinator. So hopefully you're able to hire from within, which is a massive deal in the NFL. It is gonna be a big deal in college ball as we go forward. We talked about the Detroit Lions just a couple seconds ago You know losing their coordinators first time ever anybody wants anybody from Detroit Detroit Lions fans weren't necessarily

Sure thrilled with the move how to deal with it. Terry on Arnold actually almost just say To hell with it. Good morning. Let me check my phone. See if anybody hit me up and we're down Sliding all the way down sits down down, takes a breather. Tough way to start the day. Everything's bad in Detroit right now, Evan. What the hell's going on up there? Yeah, I don't like this. I'm just happy that I didn't watch this and we had a game on Sunday. Then I would have been really worried. Imagine if he got hurt on there and we were in the NFC championship. But yeah, I'm hoping he's okay. Well, how about him being so incredibly athletic that he saves himself takes a good bump

Yeah, I hit his head and then just rides the wave and then gets to the bottom goes well Good morning to me. I guess then he posted toff toff start to think about us, too You know we always like there's stories like this to come out if there wasn't video be like yeah sure you fell down the steps Yeah, how about him checking it back is that camera it is yep? I'm telling you I slid all the way down and it casually sat there And he's like here's the film puts it up there shots Terry on Arnold He's part of a defense that's gonna continue to get better although. They need a new DC up there, right? Yes, sir. Yeah, we should add them to the graphic actually Detroit needs a new OC and a DC, right?

Yes, they do. And the rumors that I've seen, your guy Calvin Shepard, they think that he can do it. It's not Calvin, Klein, or, okay, it's Kelvin. Or the Santa Claus. Why don't you have a little bit of respect for this guy. What'd I say? You called him Calvin Shepard.

Calvin Shepard. It's Calvin. Yeah, it's not Santa Claus. Calvin. Although he would be a great DC. I think so. They should think about interviewing Scott Calvin. From the area.

He is a Michigan man. Yeah, he is a Michigan man. Loves building cars in his spare time. Maybe put him in there. There is a recording coming out now of Ipe Mitsuha, conning a bank into giving him hundreds of thousands of dollars as if he was Shohei Otani. Shout out to the New York Times, the Athletic, for uncovering this.

Who am I speaking with? Shohei Ohtani. Thank you. How may I help you? I tried to make a wire transfer a couple days ago. They told me that that's probably the reason, so they transferred me to this number. Alrighty. Now the number ending 0373. All righty now the number ending 0373 is that the best contact number for you? Yes. Okay so I'm going to send a one-time authorization code to your text messaging. Can you provide me with that

six digit code when it become available? Yes. Okay what is the reason for this transaction? For a car loan. Okay. You said it's for a car loan? Yeah. Okay. What is your relationship to the payee? Oh, he's my friend.

Will there be any future bars to your friend? Oh, probably. Yeah, there will be. I hope the more that comes out the more people understand Shohei was a victim in this entire thing and absolutely frauded out of his friend is probably going to sit in jail. Football is wonderful and we're so incredibly lucky that we get to talk about it every single day. Thank you for allowing us to do this for a living.

It's not just me. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, just a t-shirt today. I see you back. Yeah, yeah, I figured after yesterday, you know, it has warmed up a little bit. It's a nice 15 degrees here and I still got the nice T-Mos beanie on to kind of keep me warm. But yeah, I figured, you know, I don't want to wear a jacket every day. You're back to being a dog. Yeah yeah

trying to. Yeah go back to your roots. Mm-hmm. Ty Schmidt you watched those Pacers play in Paris yesterday? Yeah I did boy I don't know if I'm gonna be doing that again. Well they play tomorrow 2 o'clock. Certainly will not be watching the one tomorrow. On ESPN the Pacers will take on when Benyama in the stars in Paris yet again during our source says told us that Wemby got going yesterday and became a little bit of a runaway When you have all the party behind him and he starts doing his shit Wemby is he's the one Yeah, so cool. He is must watch. He is the one he is taller than you. He's more athletic than you

He has a any to pull up from half court. I mean, and I guess once this all starts happening, all the Paris gets onto their feet. The smells I heard. Just so crazy in that arena, so loud. And it was one thing led to another. And the Spurs put an absolute ass beating on the Indiana Pacers on NBA TV yesterday in Patti They will continue their pair series tomorrow as these two will face off once again And if you're the Pacers you're just hoping not to turn on the light switch for Wemby early Because if he gets rolling, I guess it's an unstoppable force. Yeah. Well, and then I hadn't even remembered it But they also got Tony Parker over there with the Spurs right now It was also a paddy legend. So I mean it makes sense, you know, you got an eight foot guy who can shoot You know 85 foot threes and like like we showed yesterday, you know can dunk without jumping

I mean how you can I gonna defend that how you gonna stop that? Yeah, I don't how are the Spurs they trash? I know they're they're a little above 500 now I think they're in the hunt a bit but to your point about the smells I'm sure it's impossible to play over there when it smells so bad I mean it must be one of those situations where you're running around and it's just hey where's my dove where's my dove Dio? So I don't have it? That's the issue the Pacers were dribbling and just trying to spray dove Mencare whole body Dio They gotta get through that. You gotta battle through.

Yeah, they are putting up shots while they're doing it. Shoo them off. Shoo them off. One be's used to it. It's not fair. Dove should think about heading over to Paris and being like, hey, got something for you guys. Game changer.

Yeah. You don't have to do what you do with your noses every time you see each other when you look up at each other, you know? Everybody says the French are maybe looking down on you. It's not, they're just going all the time. Do they have soap over now? I'd be like fire for neanderthals if you brought some dove over there. Look at this. Oh, just hit my nose nostrils That smells so good. That's dovemen carry. Yeah, old buddy. Do bro. That's one half of the hammer

Cowboys a P tone you bet on the Pacers tomorrow. No Joining us now live from an attic and me neither brother. What I don't bet on the Pacers tomorrow? No. Joining us now live from Anaconda, me neither brother. What? Me neither. I don't bet on the NBA till playoffs June. Yeah, but we're going to watch NBA remember because football is over soon. And we like Ty Reese and the Pacers. For sure.

Well, technically football is over. We like the Celtics. Draft, free agency, it carries us. We like Missoula. We like the Celtics. free agency it carries us so we like Missoula we like the Celtics I can do without them well guess what they ain't going nowhere I could do without them well that's too bad I'm okay without they're probably gonna end up winning it again did LeBron beat their ass wait hold on Stephen still running that place up there oh yeah I love the Celtics yeah

West Virginia guy Indiana yeah I love the Celtics thank you love the Celtics. Yeah, Brad Stevens is joining us. I love the Celtics. Yeah, West Virginia guy, Indiana guy. Bingo. Yeah, I love the Celtics. Thank you. Love the Celtics, love the Pacers, love that Zion is doing his thing. All right, let's not put too many eggs in that basket. He's healthy, Sean's told us yesterday, he's playing five on five basketball.

He's only eating egg whites now. We've been here before. We don't know if that's true. We have heard that the Pacers though will only eat egg whites. Bingo. They, for every meal, they only eat egg whites. I saw that on a Instagram post.

Only the whites. That is all they'll eat. We don't know if that's going to continue or not. Maybe they'll change their ways, depending upon how they win going throughout the year. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has a tree on the Ohio State Buckeye University campus.

He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, father of 10 AJ Hawke. Yeah, Hawke. Hawke, how you doing, bub? I'm doing great. I don't know why the Pacers would only eat the egg whites. That's, you know, I like eating the whole egg.

I don't know about you. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm okay with it. Yeah, I'm okay with it. Turns out the Pacers aren't though. I guess it's like a team thing, like no no way anything other than team mandate snow stick to the white I guess that's not all they eat nothing else. I don't know I would on it seems like from the photos we've seen that is the case uh we've speaking news Zion out tonight Okay, is that right? I would have never thought okay?

He heard or just rest couldn't see this coming. I don't know conditioning is the reasoning. I'm being told Okay, let he hurt or just rest? Couldn't see this coming. I don't know. Conditioning is the reasoning I'm being told. Conditioning? Come on! Okay. Let the guy play! You know how you get your conditioning up? You play basketball, okay? You don't sit. Sit doesn't get your conditioning up.

I know. I've been doing it for 20 years. I don't want to do this again, but I once again blame the Pelicans. I was going to say, why would you put that out there? Guys not in shape. You guys get it. They never let him play. Just let the guy play. If he wants to why would you put that out there? Guy's not in shape, you guys get it? They never let him play, just let the guy play. If he wants to play, let him go out there and if he's gonna be on the let us see it. Yeah. You know, because instead it's always like the pelicans are holding him back, the pelicans are holding him back, the pelicans don't know if he's in shape

enough to play, he's gonna injure himself even more. It's like does Zion want to play? Let him play because wherever we're seeing him on the court right now He's fucking all over the place. He's all over place in tank Pretend like they're playing on top of Mount Everest every game. Yeah, I'm just hey we need ten oxygen tanks out here and We might go through all ten of them tonight, but that's what Zion needs to play Give a nice bath in between the quarters. Sure up get the guy on the court have blockbuster And you know, they say the NBA's numbers are

what they are, and once again we talked about the Nielsen ratings, how? How do they know? I don't know how they know. They know. They do. I'm about done with Hulu. Whose day, I mean I don't know who day is,

but yeah you're right, I can't log in to anything. Things get bundled, I can't log in anywhere anymore. Yeah, Hulu is a real fucking piece of shit. I mean I, I never,. Yeah, Hulu is real fucking piece of shit. I mean I Never you know, I am so mad. I'm like, what am I paying to stream? Yes So if I'm in a hotel room that has a TV smart TV But it's not connected anything or an Airbnb or a bus or something, you know, I'm like, yep That's why I got the streaming service is so that I can watch it. You've changed your home four times It's like so I'm only allowed to stream four times

What are we even what am I paying you for? Then you go over your friend YouTube TV and it's like you got it pal. He's got clip Yeah, exactly, but it will waste your that's a lot of time. That's 10 15 minutes doing the whole song and dance Oh, yeah, that's a whole Hulu stinks brother. We tried we told you before a YouTube TV is gonna change your life And I'm glad it has but it kind of outshines everything else so much. Yeah, it's not bad I also see the list, you know, yes every time I was on YouTube TV I can never get to the list. I need the list. Oh my god

I like scrolling through a guide to kind of see what's going on because maybe something that I didn't know was on is gonna Peek my interest and I'll do it. That's why I like linear television I'm an old man at heart. I believe, especially when it comes to watching TV. So then whenever I go over to YouTube TV, I don't see that. It's like, oh, you gotta go back, gotta go home. Then you gotta go down, it's down there. It's like, it is very nice.

And obviously the four box, beautiful. Beautiful in there. You know, the Paris basketball games, the Pacers got their asses beat by Wemby. They'll win tomorrow though, H. They'll win. Yeah, I bet on them. I bet on the Pacers tomorrow me, too

Really can't do it twice right? He can't do it twice You know in a row not in Paris not in Paris. Do you guys want to bet? What's that? You know, he's not gonna go for like 48 15 and 10. I'm gonna bet on a betting site. I'm not gonna bet you Okay, I was I was in what's the spread? I'm look, I don't know two maybe how many points you give me I'm giving you none I think this is just a straight-up Pacers are one and a half point favorites. They were one half point favorites yesterday though to I believe it's first shit What me what what's that? Yeah?

Favorites, it's got beat by 35 yesterday. Okay, it's more a nude Pacers are a gritty bunch though They are they are certainly I don't want to get into the history of France Okay. Oh, yeah, I don't want to get into that because Wembe wasn't there at that time I think would have been a little different if Wembe would have been there and others, you know What I'm talking about my turned around talking about the greatest generation You know we're talking about here the Pacers going over there and represent they got Olympic gold medals leading this team Tyrax Halliburton, I do. One and a half point favorites. Yeah. So are we going in?

Couple, couple. Pelicans are 12 and 32. We don't have time for Zion to be sitting. OK? He's going to get back. They're 12 and 32. Secondly, where are we going to be next week? I think we should all have a sit down with him.

The Pelicans? No, just Zion. I don't think he's going to listen. I don't think the Pelicans are going to listen either. How about Starry? AJ, I didn't say... I said like, I said the collective week... He doesn't drink Starry anymore.

Pass that. Starry zero. I wasn't gonna say much. I'm more or less in my pocket. What? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. For what? What? When we do the sit down, I wouldn't be doing any of the talking. I'd be doing a lot of mm-hmm. Yeah.

Okay, so you took a turn about what you would like to contribute to the sit down. Well, AJ said what are you gonna say to okay got it I appreciate it Pat be doing most of talking no no age will do most of the time fitness guru yeah give me yeah some unsolicited advice I'm a big fan of that so I definitely be doing that out design no it's not unsolicited he would be sitting down with us to get advice it wouldn't be you'd be solicited let me know if he reaches out to us as a collective and wants us to give him advice Then I might participate all right phones open

DMs are open Zion uses them. Yeah, well just wait for in the DMS That we had a cake show up. Is that a cake or what was it? I think was yeah Had a local online Baker to show up outside the gate to sit there So I got his cake for you, which we're appreciative of awesome. I don't know if it's gonna be great We haven't got to taste it yet But those are the things desire needs to stay away from you know, and he needs to be traded to the Indiana Patriots What is it? What is the Patriots record there 12 and 32 down there in New Orleans are let me look Paces I think our fifth in the east there. They're playing well. All right 24 and 20

Let's talk football AJ you guys over there in Columbus have a little bit of an issue bub. Jeremiah Smith getting offered big money. Carnell Tate getting offered big money. Noel is your defense coordinator. We talked about it during the break. We didn't talk about it whenever it was announced. Now Golden is going back to the Cincinnati Bengals and leaving Notre Dame. He's allegedly potentially going to go back to Oklahoma that has a defense coordinator position open because that's where his family's from. That's where his wife's family's from. How do you feel about the Ohio State Buckeyes and

how quickly do they have to focus on next year's roster and is that already happening over there? I am sure it is already happening. I'm sure it was already thought about before they even won the national championship. Hey, if things work out the way we want to, people will absolutely try to come pluck some of our talent. So yeah, I mean, you're a product of your own success, I guess,

and that's the modern day college football, at least right now. You got to recruit your own roster, and it's crazy to think, yeah, a guy can be there one year, another team can entice him with a crazy amount of money, and they can just take off, and your best player can all of a sudden transfer. That could happen, but I don't see it happening in this case with Jeremiah Smith and Tate and everyone, but yeah, yeah it's a real thing I don't know what coaches

you're supposed to do. Hashtag journalism I'd mentioned this a couple weeks ago about being a possibility because it's the reality of current college ball. Jeremiah we got good we don't have four and a half million for West Virginia but we got good we got good facilities. You know went there your cousin obviously can uphold the the incredible tradition of Smith's Family members dominating in Morgantown, but there's schools that have a lot I mean there's billionaires back in a lot of places. Could you imagine Michigan? Oh my you know, the world would explode Larry Ellison who we know is he's chatty. Yeah, he's bringing it He's doing a lot of chatting about things right now. We're 200 billion dollars

He allegedly the reason why quarterback one goes up to Michigan He's he gets together puts the money out there Could you imagine Michigan offers Jeremiah Smith 5 million a year 10 million a year just because just because I mean Why wouldn't they if they had it? Why wouldn't you at least offer it and see you know, take a shot? That's current world. We live in I'm not just Jeremiah Smith of Ohio State That's everywhere at college ball And now does that change we go forward we hope there's some sort of regulations, but this is reality of the situation Well, that's what's crazy about Jeremiah is that one like Quinn yours 8 million came out. It was like, okay

No way he's getting 8 million to go up there for a year Like with Jeremiah it's almost as if four and a half isn't enough because of how damn good he is now I'm not saying that's like a not a lot of money. It's a shit ton of money, especially for two years of football. But he's that good where if it came out like a school offered him eight million dollars to go play, it wouldn't be that surprising because of what a stud he is. And then he could be a free agent again after next season.

I think so. Is that how this works? I think so. That's can you transfer as much as you want now, or did they change that? I don't know, cause it used to be you couldn't transfer until you're a graduate, and if you did transfer, you had to sit out a year, and then it became no rules, because you're holding back people's money

that they can make, which I think goes into an employment violation, so you can't hold them back every year, so I think you can't, I think, I think it's free agency every year, I think. Essentially, yeah, as long as you meet academic requirements, you can- can Create for players in business Great think how hard it would be if you're a coach like at a I don't know like a mid-major

Or say you're like middle of the pack and whatever conference you're in and you have a young quarterback comes in He plays like out of his mind does much better than you expected that dude is gone for sure Like you have how do you guys around? Yeah. Well, it's potentially gonna happen to the SEC. Not all of the SEC, but there's a chance the SEC starts feeding these Northern schools that have a lot of cake. Our sources state that there are some people around the SEC that are very worried about the amount of money

that Northern schools have. Like Penn State has been dropped into the very very prominent role in this entire college football world and other sports world because of how much money their alumni have. A lot of rich alumni. So that's a massive ordeal now. I'm not saying that there's SEC schools that don't have that. I'm just saying there's a lot of opportunity for these schools, a lot of them from the north, that have a lot of money in their alumni. And if you could drum that up,

all of a sudden you could start, it's wild. It's wild to think about, but if you look at the College Football Playoffs, you look at the teams, Indiana, Kurt Signetti was able to drum up a lot of money. He was able to flip over his roster. SMU makes it to the College Football Playoff.

They're in Northern Dallas. They got a lot of money out of SMU alumni. Texas, obviously, in the Dallas. They got a lot of money out of SMU alumni. Texas obviously in the SEC. They got a lot of money out of their alumni but you start looking at all these other schools. It's like Penn State, shit ton of money. Notre Dame, shit ton of money. Ohio State, shit ton of money. Oregon, shit ton of money. It's like some of these schools have a lot of money. There's going to be the haves and the have nots. If it continues to go this way and the haves are gonna They're gonna prosper throughout this entire process, which is why you're hearing a call from everybody It's like we need to leave some guardrails on this thing

Yeah, I think that was everyone's fear is like hey the 12-team playoff is great But before too long we're gonna be getting the same 12 teams in this every year because there's that clear delineation like Connor mentioned Jeff Hathley, that's why he left Boston College and he basically said like hey if we Defy expectations and go like nine and three or whatever and we have a couple unbelievable guys Like guess what those guys are going to Michigan those guys are going to Ohio State like we Don't have the resources or the money to pay everyone from a good team So it's almost like a lot of these kind of lower tier You know major conference teams like they have that one crack if you have a really good team

You better hope you go to the playoff and then sup by some way Make it to a national championship because if you don't your entire roster is gonna get pushed at the end of the season What a coach Saban say whenever he gave a speech about regulations He was like you can't have one team have 30 mil and then another team have three mil and they're supposed to be competing On the same field like that is just not that's not reality You know, obviously you're smiling cuz Ohio State can keep up with anybody But you understand that there has to be some sort I think even Ohio State people especially with this Jeremiah Smith situation They're like hey, we need some sort of guidelines

Yeah, it never stops I guarantee you like there's Many many people at Ohio State that are freaking out and losing sleep every night because you have to continue to bring in that money Every year now it's so hard to keep these guys. Okay, let's talk about the NFL, shall we? Pete Carroll is back, AJ, with the Las Vegas Raiders. How do you feel about this hire by Tom Brady and Mark Davis over there in Las Vegas? I love it.

I mean, I see all the great clips of Pete just throwing dimes everywhere and running up and down the field. It's great to see him. And Shepty was giddy with excitement when he was about like when he got to experience a Pete Carroll team meeting So yeah, that's what you're bringing in I think it's good like bring in obviously depends on what happens at the quarterback position all that But I like that Tom has his hand in this and says he wants some experience He wants some energy and Pete seems like a great guy. I mean Pete in Vegas, man

I think I think this is a pretty good fit I think so too. They don't have a quarterback and they're in a very difficult division Man, I think this is a pretty good fit. I think so too. They don't have a quarterback and they're in a very difficult division. So obviously two things working against you. He and Jim Harbaugh played against each other in the Pac-10, Pac-12.

They played against each other in the NFC West. Now they'll play against each other twice in the AFC West. He and Harbaugh great history, but this is a Mount Rushmore of coaches. Bill Belichick obviously will be joining us in about 10 minutes or so. Certainly earns his spot on all this But the AFC West juggernaut coaching lineup a june. I mean just look at that that first off yet

It's also as Pete Carroll taking this game with the Raiders to play in the AFC West We know how how brutal it is and you know Patrick Mahomes is not slowing down anytime soon But yeah when you think about it is there any when we compare if we do this and compare other conferences i wonder how they stack up compared to these guys well shane steichen domiko ryans liam cohen and callahan obviously down the aft south or a juggernaut in the nfc east with sirianni and dan quinn and no coach at uh dallas and dayball in new york obviously something if you look around nfc north i think you would say quite a juggernaut Kevin O'Connell just signed a blockbuster extension with the Minnesota Vikings Motor City Dan Campbell has to find two coordinators. That's gonna be no easy task Ben Johnson, which was the belle of the ball this coaching cycle Obviously, he's a guy that has an opportunity to go on and be great

But if you look at the AFC West, that's for Hall of Famers and Andy Reid I don't know if he ever coached in college neither Sean Payton I assume if they want to college he'd have a success there as well yeah so congrats to the AFC West getting better we think with the Pete Carroll hiring and congrats that a Raider is getting better. Liam Cohen now is the head coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars AJ chaos around this entire story I don't know if you've been keeping up. I have, and so when Shepty was like taking it back and said he's never seen a franchise respond like the Tampa Bay, like as pissed off

as the Tampa Bay Bucks were, so what exactly did Liam Cohen do that they are so pissed off about? So I think it is, and I don't think he heard me ask this question, his internet was freezing. Did you see that? Yeah, it was. A lot of crap internet. Yeah, there was thrott lot of crap a lot of getting out at his house right now Yeah, he was getting throttled a little bit. Yeah, they don't want to see chef t-win No, this is most busy time, but I think once we saw Liam Cohen reported that he pulled his name from Jacksonville

Jack wires, there's normally two different reasons why you do that One you think somebody else is getting the job So you don't want to do the whole song and dance or Two, your team has offered you a pay increase to remove your name from the conversation It was reported that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gave him quite a pay raise to become the highest paid offensive coordinator or coordinator just in general in NFL history to remove his name From the conversation don't do the second in person visit. And then he is found in the Jacksonville Jaguars building doing a second in person visit.

So I think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers team thinks that was shady business on Liam Cohen. You lied to us. You lied to us. Well, Shot Khan seemingly got his guy and he was trying to tell Cohen as such.

And was there a chance that Liam Cohen said, I'm not coming to your bulky? Why the hell would I do that? You fire bulky, Maybe I'll reconsider and then shot constant. You got it I'll do that and then Liam Cohen now has to reconsider his entire situation It is such a good reality show down there Are they better now than they were a week and a half two weeks ago is the only question for the Jackson Jaguars I mean, I guess you know you they have a head coach now

But I think that you're putting a lot of you know faith in him Because he's obviously he's gonna be instrumental in picking the GM right and you got a first-time head coach You won't he only has five years of NFL coaching experience I got he's been with McVeigh and what he did turning around You know like the the numbers of where Tampa Bay was last last year compared to this year is, you know, very impressive, but I mean that's that's a franchise who hasn't won in a long time and have been a shit show I think there was a stat that said Shotka can win 86 games in a row and he'd still be under 500 so that's putting a lot on a guy's plate who's never done anything. I think it was 83 please have some respect

86 there's some breaking news out of the AFC South on Liam Cohen Bobby Slawek is no longer sorry Booby Slawek, Adam Scheffers reporting, is no longer the Texans offensive coordinator. Wow. In the span of one year Slawek went from being a hothead coaching candidate to now looking for work. There's multiple jobs there are multiple places that are looking for offensive coordinators Can we put that graphic up the places there including the Detroit Lions? Yeah, who are certainly looking for an offensive coordinator Las Vegas with Pete Carroll Chicago Bears have Ben Johnson You assume he's gonna call plays and then Seattle Seahawks. They lost grub

Remember we assume he's gonna go down to Alabama to join Kailin DeBoer They still have yet to hire an offense coordinator job. And now the Houston Texans have been added to the graphic. Wow, Bobby Sloak's gonna get work quickly. Aside from this year with Jaden Daniels, what he and CJ Stroud were able to do last year without all the injuries that took place this year, injuries everywhere throughout the Houston Texans offense,

especially the key players that they brought in. Stephon Diggsiggs didn't finish the season didn't play a lot of games Nico Collins was hurt for a lot of games offensive line had injuries down there Bobby slow I've seen the second year with CJ's trout not as great as he was in the first year, but they get a playoff win and now He's gonna be heading to a place. That's trying to build a brand new culture. What a play for Booby I feel like he's probably okay with this move now anytime you have to move or you get released that sucks He's gonna find work quick though. Yeah, I mean he was he was the he was he was the belle of the ball last year When Ben Johnson said he's coming back, so we'll see I don't know. I mean, I mean Detroit I feel like would be awesome. Yeah, I'm like you go to the number one

I mean Detroit I feel like would be awesome. Yeah, like you go to the number one Offense in the entire NFL and of course you are you know a guy that is coming off a year where you're supposed to be Hot head coaching commodity but to Tone's point earlier too if the Raiders are doing like a three-year Hey, let's turn this around and then hire a new guy after Pete Carroll like slow It has the OC in Vegas would be the perfect kind of Prince who is promised over there too unless Carol has his staff kind of Already planned and we saw his work with a rookie quarterback now Who knows if that's the way the Raiders are gonna go or they gonna go with a veteran? Who knows what decision Pete Carroll makes Russell Wilson's? available

You think they'd like to be reunited? Yeah, I mean Both sides are OK with that? Yeah. Russell Wilson sang his praises the other day. You said, I've played for two great coaches, Mike Thalman and Pete Carroll. Yeah. Danny?

Yeah, yes, he did. That's it. He certainly did. I don't want to lose Russ, but it makes sense. You said you wanted Russ back the other day. Even right after he was on the show? Yes. Yeah.

Even when he was on the show, I think you said. Yeah, I did. You did. And? He was on the show. Yes. Yeah, even when he was on the show. I think he said yeah, I did did and I'm just saying it makes sense in Oakland It's Vegas. Don't use what the best for us. Is that what? I mean they would play baseball in a long time. Yeah, I mean there's a chance Russell Wilson is back with the Steelers seemingly indicating No, the internet after Russell Wilson's appearance on this show which was mmm

500 X better than I thought it was gonna be Going whenever we heard he was potentially available for the program my first thought was like oh, I don't know if we should do that Obviously the whole that's right thing everything else I don't know if we should talk to Russell Wilson and obviously say yes because it's Russell Wilson and then leading up to it I'm like, it's gonna go bad. It's gonna go bad. I know it's gonna be bad We'll put this right next to Jerry Rice's pitiful terrible performance on the show I assume that's what this is gonna be instead. I came away thinking, you know, I love Russ I appreciate Russ feels like Russ is always Russ

Some people are gonna hate that forever because he is Russell Wilson in that type of mindset can obviously turn people off But he's gonna have work He's ever so is booby slow it So is booby slow it yeah, but we think about with booby slow it He was like we said he was the absolute guy like he was one of the dudes that was getting the head coaching gig So I just think it shows how quickly you can go from that. Yes, of course someone there are multiple teams I want him as their coordinator, but when you get a head coaching opportunity, you gotta take it, I think. Well, and there's a head coaching opportunity in Texas that maybe is still

available for Bobby Sloak to go interview. Schottenheimer who at one point when he was the Jets offense coordinator with Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez, they're having success, had like two head coaching opportunities instead. Whoever was the owner at the time, was that Woody? I doubt it. I don't think so. Whoever was the owner at the time was that Woody I? Doubt it Whoever was the owner at the time gave him a raise right to remove his name from the conversations he took that now 15 years later

He's getting an interview again I watched first takes reaction to Schottenheimer potentially getting the head coaching job in they're all just like why this is shit This guy's suck this guy is as a guy who had a chance to be around Shotty in Indianapolis, I think he's a great dude. Obviously grew up in the NFL, grew up in football with his dad, being a legendary coach. I didn't think he was going to be the Cowboys guy either, but now that it's starting to happen, maybe Bobby Sloak gets an opportunity

to be with Jerry Jones in Dallas Cowboys. Maybe he does get fired from one job and become a head coach within the same state. That is still on the table Taishman. Yeah without a doubt. I mean, I don't think we have any idea what the Cowboys are gonna do You know one day it's hey shot He's gonna be the guy the next day It's hey Jason Whitten came in and knocked Jerry's socks off and then Jerry still is kind of thinking about Deon and now booby

Sloak gets let go and no one really thought that was gonna happen So I mean crazier things have happened who knows what's gonna happen with the Cowboys? I feel like this could drag on for another month and a half and I wouldn't be surprised. Jerry allegedly reached out to Pete Carroll as well to kind of gauge his interest on being the head coach of the Cowboys. What we do know is there was a report

of the average attendance for each home game. Dallas Cowboys are king. Okay, that place is massive. Jerry World is huge we all know that 92,972 average attendance okay and they stunk this year yeah yeah they had Cooper Cush playing quarterback Mike McCarthy was on a lame duck contract Michael Parsons was doing more in podcasting than he was on the field everything was bad for the Cowboys this year. They're averaging almost 93,000 a game, which is 20,000 more than most people in the NFL. It's a business.

All eyes are on you. Whoever's the head coach is going to have the spotlight, whether they love it or not, and a fan base that's ready to go. And Jerry's just collecting checks, brother. And there's a reason why he is so damn arrogant. Everything I do works. I got people from other teams telling me how I need to operate. How many people you got at your games? That's what I thought. How much is your evaluation here? That's what I thought. How many Super Bowls you have? That's what I thought. Everybody needs to get off my ass which is allegedly why he's doing a solo mission and it's the entire thing to find a next head coach. Yeah which is also awesome for us to know because if it doesn't work out then we're gonna be able to rip on Jerry even

Harder, but even the next two are funny like the New York market makes sense But people are still showing up to Jets and Giants games Which is it which is comedy when you think about what a dumpster fire both those places are too neither of the I guess Casey's there, but it's not seeing Buffalo or Detroit on there is a little shocking is that just stadium? I wonder how bad the stadium is. Some places only seat like 65,000 though. Yeah stadium size.

Buffalo moving into their new stadium next year? I believe so. I think so yeah. Looks sweet. Awesome. Looks really nice. It does and 13 feet is really tall. People aren't happy about that.

Not really it's tall it's not really tall. I think if the chest of the bison is at 13 feet And the top of the bison head is at like what 20? Yeah, that's okay That's okay, that's a towering they didn't say that though. They said the top is 13. Yeah Oh, I thought they said the chest was 13 now That yeah, you know the chest would probably be about two or three feet You're not gonna be walking under you're not walking under that uh chest might be about two or three feet. You're not going to be walking under that. The chest might be. We'll see. They might be a little famished, Buffalo.

Cold weather. Yep. Will they be able to give their fans five bucks to shovel snow at the new stadium? Okay. Gump is still holding out against them. Obviously, Gumpy, big time Miami Dolphins fan, AFC East. Doesn't love that Josh Allen is the wagon over there. And the Dolphins, potentially never going to be as such.

Hmm. How's Ty Rico? Have we heard any updates on what's going on with the Dolphins potentially never gonna be as such. How's Tyreek going? Have we heard any updates on what's going on with the Dolphins? Nothing really. Radio silent out of 305. It's been radio silent ever since D-Buch actually asked Rosenhaus if he knew for sure Tyreek wanted to be a Dolphin. He said I actually haven't talked to him. Tyreek Kill is the least of the Miami Dolphins worries. Loves being a dolphin. Absolutely workhorse. Played injured, had a broken wrist all season long. He got caught up in the emotion afterwards. Tyreek Hill is not something for the Miami Dolphins or their fans to be worried about. So Tyreek's back with the Dolphins. I've not talked to him. I didn't say that. Okay I am not not 100% sure. What a moment there.

Just agenting the entire time. Well, he was the best. He was awesome. That was a hall of fame performance. Really was. And then he got us dinner reservations at like three different places. Yeah.

And we didn't go to any of them. We didn't. And we are so sorry. At 12.30 at midnight. This place is gonna stay open for you guys. You wanna stop by? Good people, good chef, great atmosphere. This place on the ceiling,

or on the roof of this other place, you guys would love it. by good people good chef great atmosphere this place on the ceiling on the roof of This other place you guys would love it this place Not really known as well great chef up-and-coming got spots for you anywhere you need him like thank you drew like I Really appreciate that and then called you hey we ain't doing any of our go back to hotel lay down It is so cold. It is so cold our plane got delayed We are we have built Belichick joining us here in a few minutes. I think he is caught in travel a little bit, so we don't know when exactly that's gonna be.

His transition into college ball is certainly gonna be a story to monitor all year. Another story to monitor, H, is what do the Baltimore Ravens do this off season? How do they get over the hump? Did you see Mark Andrews' Instagram post where he explained, like, you know, it took me a while to gather my thoughts because how devastated he was for the entire team. How do you feel about this

being the way that he went about addressing it and how do you feel about the response from everybody saying, hey, you good brother, you good. Yeah, I mean, I can understand him not wanting to speak to the media directly after the game and you know as they're cleaning their lockers out. I mean, I probably would have been better if he could have just you know been honest and done it but I could imagine that would have been a really really difficult situation I'm glad he at least addresses it here so it was once you address it hopefully you can start to move on from it but something

like this you know until you want a Super Bowl or something it's tough to really actually move on but the dudes is studies and awesome players so people need to figure that out and like he's gonna make a ton of plays for them you know it's cool? It wasn't an immediate burial of Lamar Jackson after the game. We thought that once one of these teams lost that there was going to be a murder of either Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Seems like that wasn't the case.

Everybody understands Lamar is probably going to win another MVP back to back. Had a great year, but they're not in the AFC Championship. Speaking of these games, SeatGeek has sent over the average resale price For both of these games and the Super Bowl look at these numbers. Holy shit 9444 bucks current Super Bowl ticket resale price 1800 over there in Philadelphia 971 in the home 971 in the home of the Chiefs. Right now use code PAT50 you'll get $50 off championship round tickets so that drops down to $17.58 average resale for the NFC and $921 average resale for bills and chiefs in that entirety and then

9444 bucks average Super Bowl resale that thing can change dramatically Like if Washington goes first time long time, I think price goes up. I think price goes through the roof because the old-school Washington Tony what was her name age? They used to dress up like as pigs. The Hawks. The Wild Hawks. That wasn't their name though, right? They were Washington Hawks.

That's what I called them, I thought. Is that what you called them? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I remember seeing all the fans dressed up as pigs and all that. I don't think they were ever the Washington Hawks. Can you Google what their... His sick name. I want to check.

The Hawks. The Washington Wild Hawks. What's it say? Did you Google it? Yeah, that's just what the sick name? The Hawks the Washington Wildhawks What's it say? Did you google it? That's just what they call the fatos Yeah, the old line and they dressed in dresses and stuff like that. But the team name was actually the redskins Oh a lot of fans from the redskins era. They would potentially want to go in there I don't think there's any bad super bowl for the nfl here You know, like there's some bad matchups in college people talk about it in the NFL that could be in this particular fashion for ticket prices. I think it's all going up week off. I

think it's all going up whether it's the Buffalo Bills haven't been there a long time. Kansas Chiefs trying to do what's never been done before. History Seekers are going to try to buy that. Washington Commanders, their fans have been yearning for this for a very long time. And then the Philadelphia Eagles, obviously the Johns in Philadelphia Have a date with destiny in their eyes potentially with Sirianni earning the respect of the entire Eagles fan base. How long do you think Sirianni has respect if he wins the Super Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles this year? I mean, I think you'd have to respect him until he's gone. I mean that I When's he on lifetime contract I'm not saying you give him a lifetime contract

But I'm saying then if they win the Super Bowl this year and they start like oh and three next year They'll boom on ring night. They absolutely Don't boo his ass But I think they should reconsider if he is gonna deliver you a steaming hot piece of horse shit That you're going to be able to eat on parade day, I think maybe give him a pass for all next season. And then if they miss the playoffs next year, then we start talking. Exactly.

Joining us now is a man who has won all the Super Bowls. Now he's attempting to win a national championship with the North Carolina Tar Heel football team. Head coach of them, ladies and gentlemen, the greatest of all time in the NFL at coaching and general managing Bill Pellichick. Yeah coach I like the bird we're on a bird right now where we headed we're recruiting right now we are we are we're actually headed back to Chapel Hill so all good okay how you guys doing hey we're great man it's been fun kind of following along with everything you've been doing are you on the recruiting trail right now that's what you're doing yeah we're we're great, man. It's been fun kind of following along with everything you've been doing. Are you on the recruiting trail right now?

That's what you're doing? Yeah, we're coming off it. Yeah, we got some guys coming in this weekend. So I'm headed back to Chapel Hill to have big recruiting weekend there. UNC BC basketball, so big game Saturday. Hell yeah, they just signed the number six overall recruit, I do believe, to North Carolina basketball.

It was on a lower ticker this morning. Everything's up for North Carolina. Everybody thought this part of the process you would hate. Have you enjoyed it more than you expected and how has it been going? Yeah, it's been great. It's been great to get out on the road, see some of the great high school coaches and programs players still got a lot more to hit. But it's been fun connecting with so many people, some new,

some old, but it's been a great process. And there's a lot of really good kids out there. It's been fun to see them. What are the questions that they're asking? Are they talking about money first and foremost? Are they asking about development, projection? What is the conversation usually regard between you and a potential North Carolina football player?

Oh, really, it's about the player investing in his future. You know the next few years will be critical to his career both well professionally whether that be in football or out of football and that investment is you know North Carolina is a great place for that to happen both on the field and the football program but but also, you know, it's a great university with a great educational program. So if they invest in us at Carolina, we'll have them ready to go when they leave. Yeah, whether it's in professional football or just your professional life,

you're gonna be a better human, hopefully after you leave the North Carolina football program. AJ has a question for you, coach. Coach, there's reports that Jeremiah Smith, obviously the stud receiver at Ohio State got offered four and a half million dollars to enter the portal and possibly go somewhere else. And there's other guys getting offers, I guess, all over the place. What do you make of all this, how this is working now in the NIL situation and

how do you navigate throughout this through the years? Well, it's pretty similar to what we have in the NFL. So as I said, it's a little bit of a combination between the day, a couple hours after the draft when all the undrafted players are negotiating their contracts to be on a roster and free agency just in general where those couple days of the let's call legal tampering period, I think they call it when you're talking to agents trying to work out deals with them before the players are actually allowed to visit and you're allowed to talk to them. It's not the same, but sort of a combination of those two NFL events.

So yeah, it is what it is. I mean, there's a lot of money, promises and opportunity being discussed and Everybody's in on it the players the teams that have the players the teams that will look for the players And following the guidelines that are the process which are Not as well defined as they were in the NFL, but that's what it is. Okay. So on that note, there's no marketplace, right? There's no comps How do you know or are you just trying to do as much research as possible? Or are you putting the value on the players and not worrying about what everybody else is doing? Yeah, exactly.

I think you put your own value on them. And if it works, it works. And if it doesn't, it doesn't. Maybe you have to readjust your values as you get more information. But yeah, ultimately you have to make your own decisions on that. Yeah, that's an interesting thing

because you hear four and a half million. You guys were allegedly given eight million and Lombardi came out and said, I didn't, we didn't. If that's somebody not us did that, but that's like kind of the world we're in. Absurd numbers are tossed out. Is that all for negotiation and leverage? Or is that reality?

I guess you got a site for through that. Let's talk about the NFL real quick. Well, Pat, you know, it's free agency and I think Mike's handled that great, you know, I've been on the phone with him many times where they say, well, you know, we've been offered, you know, $2 million or whatever to go wherever. And Michael said, well, then you should take that. That's a great offer. Go ahead. And then they come back and say, well, we might have 2 million, but what do you have? So, you know, it's, it's just part of the process.

You know, you've got to, you got to enjoy the, the process and embrace it because you can't change it. And so you eventually just figure it out. It's probably really good at it though. Yeah, it is poker. It is poker. Yeah, it's bluffing. You know, can you read somebody Lombardi saying, wow, that's an incredible offer.

Yeah, you should go take that. All right, click. Yeah, it's bluffing. You know, can you read somebody Lombardi saying wow, that's an incredible offer Yeah, you should go take that. All right click. Yeah. All right, they didn't fall for it But but but Pat the reality is situation is whatever the money is in college. It's fractional what it is in the NFL You know called call it college money 20 million or somewhere in that ballpark, whatever it is The NFL we're looking at a 300 million dollar cap. So There's way more money. That's why I say the investment is so important for the player. Invest in yourself, you cash in later. You might make a couple hundred thousand dollars more here

or there in college, wherever it is you go. But in the end, what's gonna really matter is what happens when you get to the next level. And there's at least 10 times more money there and growing. Yeah, and something growing, you're right. Projected salary cap next year, 275 million. And it's only going up. It's only going up every single year.

Somehow congrats the NFL, absolutely crushing it. Ratings through the roof and money going everywhere. There's some, you know, NIL deals that are worth more than what rookie contracts are for NFL guys. I think that's been talked about a lot But that second contract in the NFL is never you're never gonna be able to touch it in college So do you delay that how long do you delay it? We shall see let's talk a little NFL Connor has a question for you Yeah, coach

Pete Carroll got hired officially today to the Las Vegas Raiders and immediately people started kind of nitpicking his age and that he's gonna be The oldest head coach in the history of the NFL. When it comes to that, kind of from the outside looking in, and I'm sure you had to deal with it as well, like is there really a problem when it comes to an older coach kind of starting out with an organization? And do you think that there's any like age limit to coaching? Because that is kind of what people are starting to form because he is 73 gonna be 74 in September Well You know, it's just a number

But I think Pete's got a ton of energy and if you look at some of the coaches in the league Like and to read is not doing too bad Shawn Payton has a lot of experience did a good job of turning that program around at Denver Pretty quickly not too bad. Sean Payton has a lot of experience, did a good job of turning that program around to Denver pretty quickly, not too bad. We just saw a president, 78 years old, get elected. Looks like he's got a lot of energy too. He's already getting some stuff done that he promised he would do. Not talking politics, I'm just saying for his age, he looks pretty active. So I think it's really more about the person and the situation. But, you know, Pete knows how to run a good program. He's

done that, you know, multiple times. And I'm sure he'll add a lot to Las Vegas. And honestly, I think they'll improve a lot this year. Let's put it like that. Sources have been telling us that Tom Brady was running that entire interview process over there Obviously he is now a minority owner for the Las Vegas Raiders. I don't know what I expected I didn't expect to hear that. He was the one doing the interviews with everybody. What do you think? He was asking What do you think he was looking for and why do you think he inevitably landed with Pete Carroll becoming the next head coach? Honestly, I'm not really sure. You know, Tom is a really smart guy, but I don't know what that process was or wasn't

and how that went. Honestly, I've been pretty busy running around myself here at North Carolina, but look, Tom's a, you know, he does a great job and whatever his involvement was. I'm sure it was positive Yeah, cuz there's reports he called you and then there was reports calling Barty It was like he was seeking information I think from everybody as he dove into this process to get it right and you know, he wants his investment Oh, yeah owners want the one thing to go up. Yeah, that's the number in the valuation Tone has a question for you coach. Yeah coach as a Steelers fan growing up

I knew against the patch that we maybe had a chance during the regular season But once that AFC championship game came there was no chance that we were beating the Patriots I believe you were three or four and oh against Steelers in AFC championship games Similar situation this weekend where the Bills have had the Chiefs number during the regular season But the Chiefs are undefeated against the Bills come AFC or come playoff games. Why do you think that is? Is it just you know better teams you guys hunkered down in the in the playoffs or what do you think led to those? Well what led to it last year was Buffalo missed the field goal that could put the game in overtime. You know you've got some really close games

that have come down to a couple of plays and Kansas City has made those the last couple of times. But I mean, in the end, this game on Sunday, I don't think it really has anything to do with those previous games. It'll be another situation where if the game comes down to a handful of plays at the end, not that the plays aren't critical during the rest of the game, but if it comes down to a couple of plays at the end, it'll just be who makes them. And do I think Josh Allen's capable of making them? Absolutely. Do I think that Mahomes and Kelsey are capable of making them? Absolutely. But that's why they play the game. I think it'll be a great matchup. I do think that Buffalo's going in there with a really good football team in Kansas City You can never count them out, but I think it's gonna be tough for Kansas City. I really do

Both teams are really good, but I think it's gonna be tough and I wouldn't be surprised If the team that wins that game isn't the favorite in the Super Bowl winning at this rate at this clip is something that not a lot of people have ever been able to do. Obviously you are the outlier in that story. What the Chiefs have been able to do and what you were able to do. Do you have to get lucky injury wise? What do you why do you think it's so hard for teams to replicate success throughout the NFL? Well I think Kansas City's overcome a lot of injuries and at the Patriots, I think we did too there at times. So we had injuries you had to deal with during the year.

It's really about having a depth in your team and having a well balanced team. I think the thing that's impressive about Kansas City is they've won on offensive, won on defensive, won on special teams. They've blocked the field goal to beat Denver. They've had a last minute drive. They've made four down stops and defensively to win games. So they've been able to make the plays they need to make because they have a well-balanced team. They have a very experienced coaching staff with you know, Nagy, Spags and and and Tom, as well as Andy, of course. And so, you know, they obviously work well together.

They don't make many mistakes. You've got to really go out there and play a good game to beat Kansas City. And and obviously that hasn't happened very much recently. So they really force you to play well. And if you make a mistake, they take advantage of it. Let's talk about the person that's going to have to play against them. And Josh Allen, you've seen him since his rookie year. He's obviously taken massive steps every single year. Go ahead Ty. Yeah coach speaking of that when you first came in Josh Allen

Obviously, he was an unbelievable athlete, but everyone looked at hey This guy's completion percentage is super low a lot of the turnovers are you know bonehead decisions But he's just continued to mature year after year What have you noticed about his maturation process and why do you think he is so much better now than he was when he first came in? I agree he's just gotten better every year and I think it's a lot like Brady where they're just not satisfied with their performance no matter how good it is they keep getting better and better and you know doing little things better you know Alan's done a great job this year of not turning the ball over. And he continues to make critical plays on third down, fourth down in the red area

in a two minute situation with the ball in his hands. And it's remarkable to me that he's so hard to stop. It's almost like everybody knows he's gonna have the ball in those situations. But he continues to make it look easy, to be honest with you. And I'm sure that the Kansas City is geared to stop those, but we'll see whether or not they can. Josh and the offensive have done a great job of continuing to produce in a critical situation.

So again, it's wins, it's not yards, design yard is not stats it's not any of those things is wins and and that's two things that that alan and and the homes do really well they find ways to help their team when uh... it's not about producing the biggest that's it's about making a place they need to make a critical times uh... to win and whether that's

uh... what whatever happens to be uh... whether it's a four minute offense running out the clock or a two minute offensive drive or getting the team in a field position for a field goal. They seem to be able to do it. And then for the most part, they're the rest of their team has come through. Buffalo is a well balanced team. I don't know if they're as well balanced as Kansas City is.

Let's head to the NFC now, a rookie sensation, Jaden Daniels, brand new ownership, brand new coach, brand new vibes for the commanders. They make it to the NFC championship. They're taking on a Philadelphia Eagles team that is playing football differently than seemingly everybody else. Go ahead, AJ. Coach, yeah, Saquon Barkley and what he's doing,

when you are coming up against a guy like him, say you're trying to stop him defensively, I guess what can you do to try to limit his production and not let a guy like Saquon beat you? Is there anything other than just, hey, we gotta be gap sound. Don't peek at everyone play like team defense 11 to the ball. Is there any like what can you do scheme wise I guess to try to slow them down? Well, I don't think it's scheme.

But I think the most important thing is secondary tackling. I think we saw last week against the Rams, they hit three long runs, one by Hertz and the other one. The other two, the safeties just weren't able to make the tackle. So those seven yard gains end up going for 60, 75, whatever it is. He just outruns everybody. And they've had opportunities to make those tackles and just weren't able to make them so you can't give up any long runs to him you got it he's gonna get some 7 8 10 yarders but it's the 60 70 yarders

that just really you know are back breaking so yeah he's definitely a hard guy to stop but I think tackling is gonna be the the number one issue with him particularly in the secondary and then then, you know, of course the receivers are explosive guys too with Smith and Brown. So, you know, they're definitely a problem. It's their hard offense to stop. They've got a great offensive line. They're well coached.

You know, they're very good. I think in the end, you know, probably what Washington wants to do is force Hertz to beat him and not let Barkley beat him. And that's, you know, easier said than done, but that's probably the way they'll look at it. Now you just pack the box, right? Just pack the box.

Easy as that. Just pack the box. You got to figure it out. Yeah, well, you know, we've seen people load up on the line of scrimmage, but when Barkley splits it, you know, then it's a 60 yard run. It's all over. So, you know, having layers to your defense is fundamentally what you want to do. You want to have that second layer and then the last layer safety. That's why they call them safety. Safety.

You're the last guy. You can't expect the nose tackle to make a, you know, make tackle on a guy that's 10 yards into the defense. The safety is the last guy. He's got to make that play. And, you know, that's going to be a big challenge for not only safety, but also the corners, you know, in the run force and the secondary there. But I would say offensively for Washington, you know, Jayden Daniels has had a tremendous year. His improvement has been remarkable. I think that his ability to throw the ball inside the numbers, which he didn't do a lot of at the beginning of the year,

has really been good. And his anticipation of guys coming open, instead of waiting to see him get open, he now can anticipate that window and deliver the ball that split second earlier, and that's made a world of difference. He's had a tremendous year, and I think he's just seeing things a lot better in the middle of field. He's always been really good on the outside and obviously running but I think the you know his work inside the hash mark or inside the numbers has been particularly good and improved. McCluren, you know that's the guy you got to stop. You just can't give up explosive plays to him and red area touchdowns to him.

You got to do a good job on that guy. But again, that's a lot easier said than done too. He's, you know, he's a great receiver. He absolutely is. We've got great games this weekend. We can't wait to watch your North Carolina Tar Heels opening game Monday night on ESPN prime time. You're the man safe travels.

Okay. Is game day going to be there? I don't make those decisions. Would love to to would love it would love to be there though You're the man ladies and gentlemen the goat coach Bella check Listen who they play it small plane very small You thought that right away sirs I saw his head like this am I bill a shouldn Bill, hey, he shouldn't be putting you on that plate.

Now, granted, save money on the travel. You can put money into your roster. He's probably not asking for anything, but West Virginia put you on a bigger bird. Just want to let you know. I think he's going to win. Me too. They're going to win. Yeah.

Like that's just what's... I already see him writing down his notes. I see him losing maybe early, like in my head. They got a prime time game on Monday night. His team is going to be nowhere near where they're going to be in like a year from now or whatever but just watching him go to work and take on the challenge and potentially become one of the only coaches to win a college football national championship and a Super Bowl at the same time. I love the task. I appreciate him stopping by in the middle of the recruiting trail. He's the man and thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living we will continue on YouTube ESPN plus Disney plus and tick-tock live we'll make our picks and then we will

thrust into a magical weekend with Saturday night main event tomorrow night and then championship Sunday as the Eagles and commanders do battle then the Bills and the Chiefs we'll be back for overreaction Monday be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change Their life AJ Hawk just like our friends of dude wipes Wash your ass We're missing together See you on Monday. Goodbye All right. All right, let's make our picks out it. Here we go. Let's make our picks

AJ Sunday 3 o'clock on Fox. Tom Brady on the call. Washington commanders take on the Philadelphia Eagles in front of a bunch of John's. In front of the founder of Danny and Coops, your favorite cheesesteak shop in New York. Jaylen Carter and the boys lead a defense that is pummeling. But can they stop a phenomenon named Jaden Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury, Terry McClory, Zach Ertz, and a litany of weapons that we could have never projected to make it to the NFC Championship?

And then for the offense for the Eagles, are they going to be able to run the ball over people at what point do people say yeah we're not going to let Saquon wreck the game is Jalen going to be able to take this thing over or will his commander's defense that has been counted out and ranked 18th in total defense and point scoring defense will they be able to rise to the occasion in what we assume will be a very cold game of Philadelphia will they want to make the hits? Will they want to be able to make the tackles AJ the Eagles are favored by six at home Dallas Goddard has come out and said he's gonna play Cam Jergens Shefty said it's been raised to me a couple times. I haven't got an answer. Let's assume

He's gonna play it's the playoffs A lot of guys are just trying to get to the game a lot of people missing practices This is normal a lot of people in treatment all day to try to make it to the game and then they lay it on The line because it's either a win or go home I don't know that about Juergens haven't heard anything about Juergens But what we know of him we assume if he can walk he's gonna play in the NFC championship Eagles favored by six, AJ, your thoughts. I've gone back and forth so many times

and then listening to Bill even talk about this game has me thinking about Waffling and whatever I was originally gonna do. My initial instinct, as you guys know, was the Washington Commanders. I told you that early in the week. I understand Coop is a big fan of the Eagles. I understand the cheesesteak situation.

He's great I Mean I appreciate coop support of the Eagles, but I'm taking the commanders here plus six He's been taking the commanders for the last week. Yeah, what worries me what does worry me? What's made me almost waffle is Jalen Carter Like I think this guy's an absolute monster. He is a stud, so difficult to block, the dude can take over a game from the interior, which is crazy, but I'm taking the commander still. Any other news?

Commander's offensive line, right? Yeah, Cosby is out for the year, and he's their best lineman, which Sheffield alluded to. AJ has wanted the commanders for a while. It's a beautiful story. It's a wonderful story. If you're around the NFL, you're watching the commanders be able to turn it all on its head in one year. New vision, new vibe, new attitude, new people in important positions.

Your franchise can no longer be absolute shite. You can actually go on and win. So people are pulling for the commanders I think and naturally so. What was the percentage of money on the Washington commanders? 69 99% was 69% it moves a percentage 69% is a big amount of money on the commander's you the six those have hit before mm-hmm I love the commanders Give me the Eagles. Yeah at home favored by six back door cover scares me You know why you did that why is that it's in your, born and raised on defense and running football. That's right. Just like coach Shirani's dad said. O-line D-line

Howie, O-line D-line. When I saw AQ, Philadelphia Eagles offensive line is number one and then ranked the Eagles is number six. I said that goes against everything that I believe about football and it also I think goes against everything you've been pitching About football. I still think their offensive line is able to win games I still think even though Jalen Hurts is banged up or hasn't at anywhere near the season that everybody is projected through the sky AJ Brown Devante Smith, obviously they're gonna have their moments where they have to read inter excellence Or in her highness Inter excellence to kind of get motivated back but give me the Eagles at home shout to the commanders though

That was awesome. And then the 630 game on CBS with Tony Romo on the call Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes Stop if you've heard this before Peyton Manning Tom Brady now Josh impact Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, now Josh, and Pat. This is the rivalry that we need in football, more specifically in the AFC. One young stud on a hunt to be called the goat before he even turns 30 years old. The other hunting for at least a little bit of respect and appreciation, has never won an MVP, has had over 40 touchdowns for the last

three years, is playing his best ball with a team that doesn't have anywhere near the amount of notable names that he's had in the past. The Buffalo Bills travel to the home of the Chiefs as one and a half point dogs. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? So I have Officially waffled on this one. I was originally my instincts were thinking. Hey, the chiefs of the chiefs. I'm going to Ride with these guys listen to Bill speak a little bit about it watching Dion Dawkins speak throughout the weeks I'm taking the bills here plus one half Josh Allen I think they find a way to get it done. It's going to be the atmosphere is going to be brutally tough for

Buffalo but I think they're going to gain a ton of confidence, a ton of juice from going in there and find a way to win. I love this Buffalo Bills team. I do. You watch the film you think they're a better team than the Kansas City Chiefs. Remember the Kansas City Chiefs, this isn't a good Kansas City Chiefs team. No. Now they're the number one overall seed. They have the best record in football, but they haven't played great. They've been outgained numerous times. They've turned the ball over whenever nobody thought, now they haven't for eight games. Their defense wasn't as sound early.

Wait, is this the Chiefs team that we've been, and all they do is win. All they do is win. Travis Kelsey has come alive. There was a stat about Travis Kelsey in the playoffs, and it's unguardable yeah yeah good this one it starts to happen this one Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey start doing their bullshit there it is there it is this is crazy unguardable here's the artist shuttles for his last 14 playoff games yeah he goes bananas 71 yards not a good game probably had three touch counts in that one we had to guess.

He is unstoppable. So is Patrick Mahomes. Spags is going to be able to dial something up to stop Josh Allen, I think. Slow down, Josh Allen. Not stop, Josh Allen. Mark Cooper's probably going to go Bananas. It's going to be a good one. I like the over. I like this to be a shootout in the freezing cold. I like the fact that Taylor Swift's going to be there. We don't know if Caitlin Clark's going to be there.

Don't know. Give me the Chiefs, because the Chiefs is still the Chiefs until the Chiefs ain't the Chiefs. And the only time the Chiefs ain't going to be the Chiefs is when somebody beats them in the playoffs and nobody's been able to do it. So I think the Chiefs go to their third straight Super Bowl. I'm not going to give away my pick for the Super Bowl, but you probably know where I'm headed. Shout out to the Kansas City Chiefs. We appreciate you. Shout out to the Buffalo Beals, who I love, but I think the Chiefs won the

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Boys in the back, that's what we're talking about. Graphics department, yeah! Yeah! Talk, still talk, yeah! Yeah! The national championship was on Monday. Yeah crazy. How's this few days getting possible? It's Friday. Yeah it's the same week. Same week. Blew my mind too. days ago. It's impossible. It's Friday. Yeah. It's the same week. Same week. Blew my mind too. Oh, wow. Life's rolling. Life's flying. Every once in a while you got to stop and say, hey, life is good.

It could be much worse. Remember that. It could be dead. We're lucky to wake up every day. And although everybody goes through shit, some much more severe than others, let's never forget that we could be six feet under and not doing any of this. So let's try to find the silver lining, let's try to find the good, let's cut out the negative bullshit, and let's enjoy this life. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It

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