The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 129 - Can’t Lose To The Dolphins. Also, Mark Schlereth & PJ Fleck. Oorah Todd McComas.

Episode Date: November 12, 2019

On today's show, Pat and the boys do a DEEP dive into everything that happened this week in the NFL. They cover the heartbreaking loss the Colts suffered this weekend at the hands of Fitzmagic and the... Dolphins, question whether there will ever be another player like Lamar Jackson, Pat reiterates his formula for winning Super Bowls which includes building a team around a quarterback on a rookie contract, they discuss why other teams can't do things like the Patriots, and look at Bill Belichick's potential successor. Pat also gives out his top 4 teams for the college football playoff. Also, 3x Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, and friend of the show, Mark Schlereth drops by to chat about everything that happened this weekend in the NFL including why certain teams' offensive lines look incredible one week, and really bad the next, whether or not the Saints getting the doors blown off was a fluke, and why he thinks Lamar Jackson is succeeding (1:07:53-1:23:29). Later, Head Coach of the undefeated Minnesota Golden Gophers, PJ Fleck, calls into the show after a huge win against Penn State on Saturday. He discusses their mentality going forward now that the playoffs are in sight, what his message to the team was after the win and going into this week's game at Iowa, whether or not he has any fears on the football or otherwise, and as always, he gives Pat and the boys a little motivation (1:23:51-1:35:14). To close out the show, our very own Todd McComas shares some personal stories from his time in the Marines as he and the boys appreciate all past, present, and future veterans. Today's a fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:44 That was insanity. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs lost to Mike Vrabel and the Tennessee Titans. What? What? What? The Titans will fuck around and beat a really good team at home once per year. They did last year with the Patriots. That's when I remember,
Starting point is 00:01:59 man, that was my introduction to gambling. I was just riding the Patriots and the Patriots over. Patriots, and the Patriots over. That's all I was, Patriots money line, and Patriots over. And everybody was like, you're going to get bit in the ass with that money line bet. I'm like, no, I'm not. Patriots aren't going to lose. So I got to put up a little bit more money.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I have the money to put up the money to get it on the back end. I'm just betting money line every time. It's going to bite you in the ass sometime. I'm like, yeah, you motherfuckers have been doing gambling gambling wrong this whole time this whole time you guys have been doing it wrong and then i would bet on the patriots score over i'm like josh mcdaniels and tom brady are gonna figure it out more than what these people think over there too and i was just went in and then tom brady and josh mcdaniels went down into nash Nashville and played the Titans. And boy, I felt real good about that one. I mean, I felt very good. I hammer-timed that thing more than ever.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And I'm watching that game. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? And the next morning, a lot of people smiled at me. They were like, how'd that money line go with the Patriots? It was a tough one. But just like, I assume there's people that did that yesterday for the Chiefs. Especially with Pat Mahomes coming back. I was like, hey, Pat Mahomes been sitting on the sideline.
Starting point is 00:03:06 He got to see that big win by Matt Moore. He was all excited to be back. He's the face of the league. I actually said on the Fando Moriways, the wind show, he might throw for 500 yards today. He is going to have a comeback party. Motherfucker almost did. 446 yards, and they lost.
Starting point is 00:03:22 That is a tough loss down there in Tennessee. Well, good for Mike Vrabel and the boys down there. Good for them. It means nothing, but it's good for them. The Chiefs defense, you can't talk. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you trying to do? I'm not saying.
Starting point is 00:03:38 We would like it to be documented, just so everybody knows. Ryan Clark, friend of the show, said something disparaging about the Chiefs defense. Tyron Matthew saw it, was not happy about it. I am a fan of Tyron Matthew, as is everybody in here. So we don't want to piss him off. So whatever Diggs is about to say is 100% from Anthony DiGilio, not everybody else in here, Mr. Matthew. Their secondary and D-backs are very, very good.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But they cannot stop the run to save their lives. It's going to be a problem, too. It's a real problem. That's what the Colts did to them. That's what the Texans were able to do. The Texans did it in a different fashion, though. They threw the ball more. They didn't really run the ball. Defense and running game travels. Yeah, it really does. Hey, what did you think about
Starting point is 00:04:21 Taylor LeJuan's comments after a win, even? I respect it, though. Because, I mean, he – and this is the new era of things, especially if you live on the internet like Taylor does. I mean, Taylor does the internet. He has a podcast for the – Bussing with the boys. Bussing with the boys.
Starting point is 00:04:39 By the way, good podcast. The clips I've heard from him are good. I've listened to episodes. I'm good. I don't get to catch up all the time. Him and Will Compton, incredible thing, too. Taylor just bought a Budweiser bus that had Dale Earnhardt on it just because he saw it, which I respect the hell out of that move.
Starting point is 00:04:55 But when you're on the internet, you see what everybody's saying about you. And the best way to beat that is beat them to the punch, right? That's just classic 101. So if you fuck something up, it's very smart in today's world. If you don't want to just live with that in your life one 101 so if you fuck something up it's very smart in today's world if you don't want to just live with that in your life and your mentions to be like hey a little self-awareness like yeah i understand everybody's saying that i got a lot of penalties i don't like it either like that is very intelligent of taylor the one i actually respect the hell out of the move i was getting a lot of tweets saying it sounded like me talking
Starting point is 00:05:22 up there and that great compliment he was a michigan man very smart but i think it was a good move i think it was a smart move by him but also now he drew draws attention to it nationally i didn't watch that game so i didn't know he had a bunch of penalties so now i'm like hey taylor stop with the fucking penalty so it's a it's an interesting thing it's like two sides of the sword there was a lot of holding that's how it was no i still don't know yeah i've still haven't heard of it do you think he responded like that because he's on the internet and doing the podcast and stuff? Yeah, yeah, he's doing it because he knows that people are just going to be tweeting him. Yeah, I do live at home with my parents.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Exactly. Yep, yep. Who's the guy that fucked his girl? Cheddar shot himself in the leg. Yeah, I got a friend that shot himself. Wink? Yeah, it's Wink. Yeah, Wink fucked his girl.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Sad. still standing there what the hell man on the flip side of that do you think the raiders i think have a legitimate chance to win that division i know now that the chiefs have been on quite a slide they're only a half game back and chucky's got it right chucky's hugging people john gruden colin coward said chucky uh got it right because of the khal Mack trade, the Amari Cooper trade, all these things. Amari Cooper losing with the Cowboys even though he's playing incredible. Khalil Mack losing with the Bears although they won this week. Bariton.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Welcome back. Let's go, guys. Come on, all together. Evan, come on. Lions just didn't have a quarterback. Didn't have Stafford. If Stafford plays in that game, they win by 20 points minimum. Zeno said we haven't had a quarterback all season.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So I feel no sympathy for you. Driscoll is better than Mitch Trubisky. Whoa. I think he is. It's pretty close. Dude, they had him drop back 45 times for passing. You're not going to win a game when Jeff Driscoll is throwing the ball 45 times. What are you supposed to do? You game plan all week for matt stafford they made that decision what
Starting point is 00:07:08 saturday night sunday morning sunday morning sunday morning so you literally game plan all week all the way up until the final hour for one person and then you find out he can't play because doctors and then all of a sudden what are you supposed to do as the offense coordinator like all right well since we practiced all these plays the whole week and 10 other guys know these plays but one guy doesn't, let's change it so one guy knows the plays and 10 guys don't. That's an interesting situation. So Mr. Stafford fucked him over? Oh, he's got a broken freaking back.
Starting point is 00:07:37 If he was broken a week ago, why do you say last day? No, he wanted to play, but the doctors legitimately would not let him play. They said, Matthew, you can't play this game. Never walk again. And he wanted to. Of course he wanted to. That's what play. They said, Matthew, you can't play this game. Never walk again. And he wanted to. Of course he wanted to. That's what Matt Stafford does. Duh, toughest dude in the league.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And if you're Driscoll, you can't speak up and be like, hey, I know this was the plan, but throwing the ball, not really my thing. You're the backup quarterback. He was one of those quarterbacks that went to a school where they threw the ball a lot, a lot, a lot. So, I mean, he's used to it. He's Jeff Driscoll. Yeah, I mean, college is the same as the NFL
Starting point is 00:08:05 too, so that's definitely true. Yeah, absolutely. They had a chance at the end there. They had two possessions to tie that game up, and they kept showing Stafford on the sideline, and you could tell he was eager. He's like, I'm out there. That's when Stafford eats. Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's the big thing. Like, you know, acting like the Bears are world beaters. I mean, they beat Jeff Driscoll by
Starting point is 00:08:21 a touchdown at home. Almost beat the Chargers. Almost beat the Raiders. As a Packers fan, I can understand why you're burying both of them right now. You just did. You just buried both of them. But let the Bears have this moment. You're right. I'm just saying, we almost beat the Chargers off of one field goal.
Starting point is 00:08:37 The Lions did beat the Chargers. Come on. Oh. Come on. Hey, I'm going to say it, though. The Bears fans just had a win. You can't be going back now. Bear time.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You know what? I mean, we've been bad, but if you think about it, we almost beat the Chargers. Hey, our train's still moving, and it's missing so many wheels. What are the Chargers? The Chargers lost by, what, 50 or something like that? Didn't the Chargers just get blown out by somebody? No, they beat the Blackers at home. No, then they lost the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Oh, yeah, they lost the Raiders. But it wasn't by 50. He threw three picks. He didn't feel't by 50. He threw three picks. He didn't feel a river to throw three picks. Two good teams. Two good teams. The Raiders and Chargers?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Such good teams. Did they both beat you? Yeah. By one little field goal. I like to watch the Raiders now. I think the Raiders are really coming together. That's what everybody's
Starting point is 00:09:22 talking about is just the personality of John Gruden on the sideline is good for the game, good for the team, good for everything. Colin Coward went on a run about him building a brand and things like that. The John Gruden brand has been built a long time ago, but mixing that with the Raiders like a rebirth, especially on a season that they're leaving after, has been interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Him hugging everybody was fucking a sight now. That was pretty cool. It's kind of sad. Why? Because those are those diehard fans in Oakland, and they're leaving them. Yeah, it's like a goodbye almost. Yeah, I don't think the...
Starting point is 00:09:51 It's a goodbye hug. I don't think the stadium atmosphere is going to be the same in Vegas. No. There's going to be away games. It's going to be just like Chargers. Unless Chargers get Tom Brady. But Vegas...
Starting point is 00:10:01 Oh. Connor, you have not been in the room for this take that other people are saying, people have been saying. Yeah, a lot of people have been saying that, huh? I think a lot of people have been selling it pretty hard, too, because it all kind of adds up if you start thinking about it, and that would be a tough thing for, you know, the Patriots to have to see Tom Brady play for another team,
Starting point is 00:10:19 especially in the AFC. Yeah, I just don't think you're factoring in if we do win the Super Bowl, you know, then it might be the career for Tom. This could be it. I have heard a lot of New England talking about no, he's going to retire. He's not going to leave. Yep, and then Bill will stay and do it on his own without Brady. He'll be like,
Starting point is 00:10:36 look, I know I had the greatest quarterback of all time. So then Tom Brady loses in that whole thing. Yes. There's no way Tom Brady's going to lose. No, I think no matter what, Belichick's going to outlast him. So there is that opportunity for him to prove himself without Brady. So no matter what, even if he leaves the team or stays with the team, I mean, which he will.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I think he has to go show that he can have that amount of success without Belichick. Who, Brady? Yeah, because Belichick's going to continue to dominate this league, I think, until he dies. I think he's that better than everybody else. It is so interesting to think because I'm on the train where I think Tom Brady wants to go prove.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Because all you ever hear outside of New England, outside of New England is Tom Brady, best quarterback of all time, has never won without Belichick. And then you say there's always a statement. Not everywhere, but people do say, like, hey, imagine Aaron Rodgers on a without Belichick. And then you say, like, there's always a statement. Not everywhere, but people do say, like, hey, imagine Aaron Rodgers on a Bill Belichick team. Hey, imagine Peyton Manning on a Bill Belichick team. Tom Brady hears that stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And I'm not saying they would do better than Tom Brady. I'm not saying that at all. I think Tom Brady's best quarterback of all time, greatest quarterback of all time, greatest football player of all time. But there's that chatter, right? Tom Brady knows that there's that chatter. I mean mean he listens he's got his ear to the streets oh he's good on social media he's crushing it not just on the
Starting point is 00:11:49 stuff he creates but on the shit he likes generates conversations i mean he is good at social media he definitely hears that type of stuff and if he could go somewhere else and dominate it'd be like well all those conversations just stop stat you know what i mean yeah i don't know this conversation is stopping going anywhere all right you don't want to hear it yeah I don't know this conversation is stopping it's not going anywhere alright you don't want to hear it no I don't want to hear it if Tom retires
Starting point is 00:12:09 that's the voice of Boston Conner by the way if you're new to the show Conner's with us for a long time went back to Boston for a bit
Starting point is 00:12:16 came back excited to have him back die hard Patriot fan yeah good to be back and Tom Brady's not going freaking anywhere alright
Starting point is 00:12:24 hey way to go hey keep it clean keep it clean no swearing that's right the mass hole is a freaking i mean fcc champ oh yeah oh yeah that was wicked bro thanks bro is that right wicked i said that right yeah that was wicked good Did you use wicked When you were back there? Big time I still do Really?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah I kind of Keep it down around here But yeah So that is something That is just thrown around On a very regular basis Yeah wicked is very It's not just
Starting point is 00:12:58 On a wicked regular basis He's wicked smart Wicked smart What ages though? All ages? All ages Old heads Old heads
Starting point is 00:13:04 Saying it's wicked good. Yeah, it's wicked good. Patriots played wicked well the other day. I'm going to use it. I'm going to use it on Thursday Night Football. There's going to be zero humans watching that game. We're doing a University of Pittsburgh game in Heinz Field the same night the Steelers are playing the Browns, and it's going to be freezing.
Starting point is 00:13:24 There might be 30. The band's parents might be thes and it's going to be freezing. There might be 30. The band's parents might be the most people that are going to be in that stance. And that is not a knock on Pitt football at all. It is just that there is a direct correlation between the University of Pittsburgh and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, it is a very close correlation. Pitt people like the Steelers. That's just the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Steelers people hate the Browns. The Steelers are playing the Browns on primetime television the same exact night that pit is on primetime television, and ain't nobody going to watch that pit game. It might be a replay thing. No one in the city. No one in the national audience. It'll probably be blacked out in the city
Starting point is 00:13:59 if only like 45 people are going to be there. There is going to be a lot of seats on that ESPN telecast. It's going to be hard not to talk about. They are bright yellow. Bright yellow. Are you going to drop that line? A lot of people dress like seats. Yeah, it's honestly my favorite line of all time.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I mean, you might have to, but I got yelled at by the Big 12 whenever I did that the first time. Hey, Pat, if you could not reference the attendance issue, that would be great. Can't wait to see you could not reference the attendance issue, that'd be great. Can't wait to see you dance around this one. Oh, my God. All six of them got pumped. That's like the Todd McComas line.
Starting point is 00:14:35 The, fuck, what was their team name? The Beach, no, the. Oh, the Beach Bumps? Yeah, Beach Bumps. The Wild Things? The Beach Bump fans are not happy about the call there. All three of them. That was such a good line by Todd.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I can't wait to hear you do this game. I'm just going to be captivated the entire time waiting for the reference. It's going to be tough. I can hear myself echo. I wanted to have Zito go out there. I mean, if it's freezing cold and Zito's one of the only people in the stands. Oh, running the whole field? And Zito takes his shirt off.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I mean, that is instant ESPN immediate. I'd be on the field, so I could just go in the stands. Yeah, and they'll let you go. They'll let you do whatever. The security people will probably be watching the Steeler game on their phone anyway. So they have no clue what's going on there. You shirtless is definitely making an audience. Am I painting my belly?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think so. What color? I don't know. You'll be amongst the yellow crowd. Blue. White for the brand.
Starting point is 00:15:35 For my alumni. Hold on. If we get you, Foxy, Tim McAfee, and a couple other people. Shirtless fight? You can make an emoji in the crowd in a section because of the yellow seats. Oh, yeah. So since it's yellow, we can make the emoji of one eye, another eye, and then have somebody lay flat across.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It could be the straight. There will be numerous sections that are completely empty where you'd be able to do that for the entire thing. That's something to think about. That's something to think about. That is something to think about. I'll get the team together. I'll send them my mom. That a boy.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Right eye, left eye. That's awesome. Anyway, so Tom Brady's going to the Chargers, and that's going to save the Los Angeles Chargers. But I think whenever that happens, they'll get fans. For the time being, it's a lot of away games at home. And I think that's what's going to happen with the Raiders when they go to Vegas. I think it's going to be a lot of opposing teams going, oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:31 Let's go on vacation to Vegas. We'll watch our team here. Boom, boom, boom. Good for the NFL, I guess, but not good for the Raiders. And Chucky doing that hug thing, man, was awesome television. But, I mean, that holds up the locker room quite a bit. I mean, there's like a prayer circle that happens out there sometimes. They're getting very thankful for things, and we've got to hold up the locker room.
Starting point is 00:16:53 They're like, all right, wait, we've got a couple more coming out. They're always like the super religious guys. You're like, all right, good prayer. It was a good prayer? Yeah. All right, let's get to it. How about that defense? It's always one of those.
Starting point is 00:17:06 So I always think about whenever he does the victory lap, you know, that I'm always, like, very intrigued by it. I'm like, oh, man, that takes a long time. Is the whole team doing that? I assume the whole team doing it because there's rules and stuff on when the media is allowed in your locker room and everything. It's very interesting. Very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:19 But I like it. I like it. Sucks that they're leaving Oakland. But, yeah, Oakland might win that division if the Chiefs continue to lose. Who else? Kansas City, Oakland. Chargers and Broncos. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Imagine if they still had Antonio Brown. Oh, Brown, yeah. God. Oh, man. Or Khalil Mack. Or Mari Cooper. Oh. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:42 They'd definitely be the favorites. But the Chiefs team. I have a question for you. Between Patty Boholms. 446 fucking yards. It's absurd. I know. No picks.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And I just was ready to say he's going to have to live in the shadow of Lamar Jackson now, and he has a game like that. So he's going to break every passing record there is. You know what's interesting is Lamar and Pat are definitely going to be talked about side to side forever. And they're two polar opposite quarterbacks with the same exact results, just dominating games. So there's never going to be a clear-cut argument, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:18:17 of which one's better because they're so different. Yeah, you can't. But if you had to build a team around one of those two, which do you think can do more with less? Because they're both going to get paid out. You do Patrick Mahomes strictly because there is a track record of that style of quarterback working. Now, if I'm just – how much money do I have?
Starting point is 00:18:35 If I have a shit ton of money – Cowboys money. Yeah, so I'm just fucking around. I'm like, okay, this guy is, when he steps on the field, the best player on the field, right? Lamar Jackson, when he steps onto a field, any field, since his high school day, he's the best player on the field. Could not have guessed that in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:18:52 A lot of people, even in a conversation we had with Mark Schlaerth here in a little bit, he says, I could have never guessed that. I was wrong. But if you had a bunch of money and you knew this guy could maintain his health somehow, which is going to be a question, even though Vic had a bunch of money and you knew this guy could maintain his health somehow, which is going to be a question, even though Vic had a lot of years. Vic had a lot of years where he ran a lot, a lot, a lot, and was healthy. And you can look at college quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Now, it's not like the NFL because the NFL is just all-star. You've got some quarterbacks at college that can run a lot. Like, for instance, Pat White was hurt a little bit just a couple games. He maintained his health, but he ran a lot, took a lot of big shots. If you're a guy that can just take the shots or avoid the shots, like Lamar Jackson seems like he can, that team seems like a lot of fun. They're reshaping football. They're changing the game completely, and Harbaugh knows it too,
Starting point is 00:19:37 which I respect and like, and he had to go all in with Lamar. Lamar has just been a treat to watch. But if I'm like the safe guy, you know, I'd be like, all right, Pat Mahomes, we could win with that. We could just go back and watch film. Lamar is creating his own football right now, trailblazing.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So it's good that other teams can't defend it. But when things get bad, how do you fix it? You know what I mean? You got to figure that out for yourself. There's no blueprint for this Lamar Jackson offense, which is, you know, an intriguing thing to figure out if you've got a big brain. Sorry for
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Starting point is 00:22:27 Think ahead. Think advanced. Advanced auto parts. Do you think if Pat White came in the league today? Yeah, number one pick. Really? And be actually like Lamar and like Pat Mahomes right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Well, I don't know about Pat Mahomes. I don't think he'd be like Pat Mahomes. He'd be more like Lamar Jackson. Or Kyler Murray or something like that. But he's taller. He has a good arm. Taller, faster Mahomes. I don't think he'd be like Pat Mahomes. He'd be more like Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray or something like that. But he's taller. He had a good arm. Taller, faster. Yeah, he had a very good arm.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Taller and faster than Tua, which is impressive. You know what I mean? That's a very impressive thing. And if we had more, like we had Darius Renaud, Tito Gonzalez, and then we had our backfield, Steve Slayton, Noel Devine, Owen Schmidt, if he would have had more weapons at wide receiver than we had in the backfield, I think he would have been a great passing quarterback too in college. A lot of people wanted him to play wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:23:18 He came to West Virginia because of that to be a quarterback. And if the game was where it was now as it was back then, or yeah, if the game was like it was now as it was back then or yeah if the game was like it is now back then I think he's number one pick I think people would be tanking for him personally just because I watch him dominate people I mean SEC teams big 12 teams big teams it didn't matter he was really good but I don't think he's like Lamar Jackson I don't think he played similar to Lamar Jackson Lamar Jackson's playing at a different he's like lamar jackson i don't think he played similar to lamar jackson lamar jackson's playing at a different he's playing a different game i think pat would be like a kyler but taller with a little bit better that's yeah i'd agree with he's a lot more like kyler than he is like
Starting point is 00:23:54 lamar lamar there's no blueprint for lamar because he is very much like a running back who has speed of a wide receiver who can throw like a quarterback i I mean, Cam Newton, I guess, is somebody, but he was a little bit more of a bruiser than a shaker. He used to run people over. When Cam Newton started dominating games, that was awesome to watch, and Lamar seems to be able to do that. Would you – what if – so I believe Lamar and Deshaun Watson play this week. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And Deshaun is a mixture a little bit of Lamar and Mahomes. Yeah. What if you throw him into the mix? Yeah, I don't – you know what? Lamar and Mahomes. Yeah. What if you throw him into the mix? Yeah, I don't. You know what? Lamar. Take back. Just because, I mean, but it's such a roll of the dice, man.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It is such a roll of the dice. Because the no blueprint thing is almost just as scary as him potentially taking a big hit. Because when things are going good, good. But when things go bad, it's like you can't rely on anything to be like, oh, when this happened before, we did this. For this, it's like completely new't rely on anything to like be like oh when this happened before we did this for this it's like completely new offensive style three tight ends you got one shot guy it's old school football smash mouth football if this doesn't work what happened i don't know
Starting point is 00:24:54 it seems like it's the most like consistent because if the offensive line does well you're in a good spot it's more people as opposed to just one person having a bad day but you're all relying on whether or not lamar jackson can just make people fall over on their face in the middle of a game which he does and that's what's interesting with the offensive line because it's like such a difference between the two like houston's offensive line is dog shit you know and he's just been beaten to hell so seeing seeing Deshaun Watson have Baltimore's offensive line and vice versa with Lamar Jackson. So interesting, isn't it? Because I feel like if he was in Houston,
Starting point is 00:25:30 he'd have to rely on his legs a lot more. He'd constantly be running for his life. Situations are situational. That's what the people say. The thought of that offensive line, though, being incredible and helping out immensely is interesting because, like, think about, now the Colts offensive line has not looked good in the last couple weeks. I don't know what is going on.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I don't know. Something's up. Something is up, isn't it? They've got a virus or something. Mark Schleyer talks about that later today. Is there any sort of change? I don't know. I don't think personnel- wise there hasn't been a
Starting point is 00:26:05 change like in terms of so you went for dwight freeney's ring of honor induction like the guys in the locker room even are they aware that like payton's there and like all these guys are that are going to be in the game like there's no added pressure from that is there no normally teams do well though whenever the ceremony's right because there is like old friends in the building and things like that very new new team, though. I don't think we know a lot of the guys. Like when they jogged off the field at halftime. Now, warm-ups we weren't there for.
Starting point is 00:26:32 We didn't show up for the warm-ups interaction. We got a little bit after that. But at halftime when they jogged through the tunnel, there wasn't many daps. Only one, and it was literally T.Y. going to Reggie. Yeah, T.Y. to Reggie. That was the only one that I saw. Yeah, I don't think there was any other daps. So there not really uh i don't know maybe they're they're trying to get them back but it's a very new team this colts team very new could it be teams who just watch so
Starting point is 00:26:53 much film in them now like defensive coordinators are starting to figure out little weaknesses i don't know weren't exposed before you're talking about the offensive line right now yeah yeah i don't know i i think it's very interesting because that offensive line, if Luck would have had his rookie year, see these are things that you start piecing together when you think about like Lamar's offensive line, Deshaun Watson's offensive line. You start piecing things together.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You're like, well, if Andrew Luck had this offensive line his rookie year, what is Andrew Luck doing right now? If Andrew Luck is not worried about just getting slaughtered all the time and is actually worried about just being a quarterback with a consistent offensive coordinator. He had like three, four offensive coordinators. What would Andrew Luck still be playing? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:27:32 That's why the game of football is so ridiculous. Because there's so many things that could change. Ryan Fitzpatrick plays quarterback for the Dolphins. And all of a sudden, a team that was an organization. I won't say a team, right? Because that's implying that the players and coaches and shit like that. Let's talk about organization, franchise. They were trying to lose.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Okay? I mean, people can say, no, they're not. They've been in every game. Yeah, I get it. But whenever you trade away the front runner for the defensive MVP in the NFL right now, Minka Fitzpatrick, he's very good. Diggs is happy that they traded him away. Appreciate the yard sale, Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:28:07 The Steelers just got the fucking defensive MVP. Turned the whole season around. It's unbelievable. Then they trade away a starting left tackle. Then they trade away running back Kenyon Drake. They're yard sailing four picks for next year for future.
Starting point is 00:28:25 That's definitely not a team trying to win, right? So that's not a team trying to win right now. If they're not trying to win, then what are they trying to do? Tie? Are they trying to tie? Starting Josh Rosen at quarterback ahead of Fitz Magic. No, they were trying to lose games. That's what they were doing organizational-wise.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Players never know. Players are just trying to earn a paycheck coaches same thing but whenever this now granted cover zero third and 22 against mason rudolph in the first half whenever you're up a bunch in a game that you in a sport that you haven't been up a bunch i mean that's an interesting decision that should be questioned but to say that that team wasn't trying to lose it would be a lie and the colts lost to that team that is tough that is tough to handle here's the tough part too like if you so this all year everyone's like this colts o-line this colts o-line if you're gonna be the that colts o-line the dolphins are like 29th
Starting point is 00:29:16 against the run or something like that you should just be able to line up no matter who your quarterback is we should have had marlon mack i thought Marlon Mack was going to go for 150 yards. He did, too. Did he? No. Nope. I mean, what are we doing? I don't know. Hoyer threw three touchdowns in his debut there.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Still lost game. Threw a pick six. May have been an anomaly. May have. Ran for 74 yards. The whole offense or Mack? Just Mack. Oh, I don't remember if it was over under 68 and a half or 80. So close, though, those two. One or the? Just Mac. Oh, I don't remember if his overrun was 68.5 or 80.
Starting point is 00:29:47 So close, though, those two. One or the other. Damn. I hit the overrun him. That sounds like a loss. But Hoyer threw three picks. Vinatieri misses that extra point. Massive extra point. It's Adam Vinatieri, too. The greatest of all time. He has missed kicks. Last week,
Starting point is 00:30:03 I talked about the operation of a field goal. I explained roles. Now I got a bunch of dumbasses telling me, oh, you're going to make excuses for Adam this time. It's like, just because I learned you something about a game that you've been watching forever that you didn't know because your football IQ is a fucking low one. Don't come after me the next week just because I explained something
Starting point is 00:30:22 that's just the way it is. That's just the way it is. after me the next week just because i explained something that just the way it is that's just the way it is should vinnie have made that laces back 40 some yard field goal in the hardest stadium to kick into the hardest end of the hardest stadium to kick should he have made it yeah he's adam venetarius greatest of all time that's a tough fucking kick though for anybody anybody if they get laces directly back where your foot is on it and the whole thing I mean, there's a reason why people are paying millions of dollars to make sure that the laces are not back Because it is that detrimental to things should he have made it? Yes. He's out of military Then whenever he misses an extra point a week later
Starting point is 00:30:56 Perfect snap perfect old shout out to Luke Rhodes and Rigoberto Sanchez bouncing back after the operation let down the Everybody last week. And Vinny just misses that kick. It just misses it fat. So he misses that extra point, which could have led to a potential game-tying field goal the next drive. Right? Brian Hoyer throws three picks.
Starting point is 00:31:23 We're blaming Adam Vinatieri for everything, which I get it. That's why Adam Vinatieri is the greatest. He's on top of the mountain. So whenever that guy falls from grace a little bit, he's going to be the one targeted. But, I mean, can we fucking just acknowledge the fact that, yes, you should have made that kick. We all agree. He agrees, I would assume.
Starting point is 00:31:38 He's not happy with himself. I haven't talked to him, but I assume he's not happy about it. But, I mean, there's a lot of things that went wrong yesterday. A lot of things went wrong yesterday for the Colts, and it's all revolving around Vinatieri, which that's the job of a kicker. Not to mention, it's not like there's some other guy waiting just to come in and knock them all perfectly. It's like there's some guy behind him practicing hitting all his kicks.
Starting point is 00:31:56 It's very difficult to find another reliable kicker. Yeah, but you know what, though? It's not Vinatieri, so we'll take another guy just missing kicks on a regular basis, which I assume is going to happen. All these people you see on the internet making kicks, those are their makes. There's some editing done. There's some clipping done to misses as well. On an empty field with nobody watching.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Nobody. Just a camera and themselves set on a tripod normally. Let alone if there's millions and millions of dollars on the line it's it's an easy job to do that's why there's so many people that are great at it you know it's the easiest job in sports why there's so many people that are very good at it just so simple to do you know that's why you can just cut the greatest of all time and expect another guy just be able to walk in there and just do much, much, much, much better, which might happen. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Or the polar opposite might happen. Vinatieri went two for two on field goals yesterday. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty good. He should be, though. That's like the thing. That's the thing is the expectation of Vinny is so high, as it should be. PJ Fleck told us a little bit later, pressure is earned, and that's something that Vinatieri has but he has to make those kicks
Starting point is 00:33:09 he knows it everybody knows it but the Colts can't lose the fucking Miami Dolphins just can't do it that's frustrating man that was tough to watch Todd it was a it was the worst thing ever like I literally wanted to smash every TV in my house. And I was only watching one of them. I was going to gather them all up and just stomp the shit out of them. Oh, bedroom TV, you think? You think you can't get it? I couldn't even imagine.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Marty, grab the bag. Diggs, I thought you guys were going to lose to the Dolphins. I was watching that game with Nick that first half. I was talking so much shit to Nick. I thought you guys were going to lose to the fucking Dolph game with nick that first half i was talking so much shit to nick like you guys are gonna lose a fucking dolphin that's why he won't watch him with us he can't he can't do that i can't do that well that was happening and nick was like no we're not it's the dolphins like the better team is gonna win that's what nick kept saying the entire time so yeah and that happened by the way by like 20 they ended up like to the tune of 20 covered so yesterday, they ended up covered.
Starting point is 00:34:05 So at the game yesterday, I'm there for the Ring of Honor thing. It's the Dolphins, though. We'll come back. That's just the way it is. Good team wins. It didn't happen. Well, they learned not to run that cover zero anymore on critical third downs. I mean, I wish.
Starting point is 00:34:20 When they pulled Fitzpatrick out for no reason at all, it was like, oh, they're going to give us the game. We're going to get a couple of pass interferences. We're going to walk right down this field. They're going to throw one in the end zone. Bang, run. I thought the game was getting cooked for us. You never feel like you're on the side of the things getting cooked for you.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It was a good feeling. I'm like, oh, they kicked Fitzpatrick off the fucking field. Yeah, third and six in the fourth quarter of under four minutes to play in a game-sealing drive. They just take the starting quarterback and say you got to get off for no reason at all i'm like oh they're cooking it for us i'm like it's awesome this kicker's gonna miss this kick for sure i don't know how they're gonna make him miss it but he's gonna instead he knocks it down i'm like okay they're gonna
Starting point is 00:34:57 pass interference pass interference and they're gonna give it to us that did not happen they absolutely tried it's just hoyer is that bad isn Isn't it hilarious? They're like, ah, fuck, we can't. Rosen. We got to put Rosen. Hoyer was not great. He'll come back. Ah, I hope not. Let's get healthy, Jacoby.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Let's get healthy. The Steelers lucked out with a similar quarterback situation, and it was third down, and Goff had to go out because of an injury. Blake Bortles comes in, takes a snap almost fumbles a snap misses the handoff stumbles and gets stopped short then they bring in hecker to run the fake punt which he then throws the interception well nice little series of events incredible Incredible. Blake Bortles. Legend. I think it was an RPL. I don't know if he missed the handoff, but it didn't work. Either way, it didn't work out.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah, he pulled it. Blake was like, don't let me get fucking loose. I'd rather have him than Goff. Oh, really? Goff fucking stinks. Steelers defense is good, but they're paying him so much money. Yeah. And he's just so average.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I think he was like four years, 140-some million. He's around that 33 mark or whatever that Wentz and him got. Good for Goff. Really? Yeah, good for him. And he's garbage. Todd. I hate him.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Double die. Maybe McVay's left you on the same page. Well, you can't pay everybody whenever you pay a guy like that so your offensive linemen two of them that you lose right up the gut which is causing a lot of your problems because of that now granted one guy retired other guy took more money elsewhere you think if there's more money on the table available like probably stays in sunny los angeles california but you can't do that whenever you pay a quarterback that type of money can't do it see in my head though he took him to a super bowl whenever you pay a quarterback that type of money. You can't do it. See, in my head, though, he took him to a Super Bowl. You've got to pay him, and that's coming from –
Starting point is 00:36:47 No, no, the team took him to the Super Bowl. And Todd Gurley had MVPCs in the year they went to. Until they stopped giving him the ball. Right. They also paid him. They also paid Aaron Donald. They're going to pay Jalen Ramsey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 It's tough. It's tough. Remember, I was pitching that entire model. Oh, yeah. All right, here we go. This is how you do it. Don't pay the quarterback. Keep him on a lower salary so you can build up the whole team.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I think this is going to be the model going forward. It seems to be working for them. And then they paid Goff, and I'm like, you guys were my model. You guys were my model. And then look at what's happening. Yeah, they stink. They might be the worst team in that division. Lamar Jackson, 32nd pick.
Starting point is 00:37:26 His contract compared to a top 10 pick, not as high. They're going to have to pay him at some point. They're going to have to pay-pay him because he's a game changer. But they're able to build up around him. Marcus Peters comes over there. He was a salary cap hit for the Rams. Pick six. You get a chance to really build up that team around him too
Starting point is 00:37:45 oh that ravens team could be the new model i think that's my model i've been saying it just like the ravens have a young quarterback and can build up the team around him offensive lineman by the way that get paid and things like that that's how you win games in the nfl Unless you have an Aaron Rodgers, a Jacoby Brissett, a Tom Brady, you know, guys like that, Drew Brees, that can win you the games by themselves. I don't know why you wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I don't know why you wouldn't do that. Be hard personal relationship wise and business wise because quarterbacks become so indebted to the city and the city becomes, I'm embedded, I mean, not indebted.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Well, both. I love it above. They become so embeddedbted to the city and the city becomes embedded. I mean, not indebted. Well, both. I love it. Both. They become so embedded with the city. So it's hard if a guy gets good, but he isn't great. They're in purgatory until they decide whether or not they're going to get rid of him. I think there should be slots. I've said this a couple times. I think the way the CBA should be put out for the salary cap,
Starting point is 00:38:44 there should be an allotment of cash for the salaries for the teams, percentage of TV, percentage of merch, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff, ticket sales. I don't think ticket sales go in there, by the way. So every time you say, like, I bought a ticket, I pay your bill, no, I think it's TV money. So just turn off the television. Because that does happen to players.
Starting point is 00:39:01 They're like, I paid your salary. It's like, no, you're actually at the game. So you actually hurt my salary. If you were at home watching, it would help me out a little bit more. Then tweet me, tell me you paid my salary. So I think that's where a majority of the money comes from. But I think they should have a quarterback section,
Starting point is 00:39:18 zone area, because what happened was they were like, we're going to up the salary cap so more people get paid. The only thing that happened was quarterbacks get more money. Quarterbacks get paid double the amount of money they used to get. And everybody else actually loses money because the rookie men and the veteran men have like a $500,000 difference. So a lot of the players are special teamers that were just getting put on veteran men. That's like $800,000, where the rookie men is like $400,000. So you'd rather take the rookie men than the veteran men that's like 800 000 where the rookie men is like 400 000 so you'd
Starting point is 00:39:46 rather take the rookie men than the veteran men so it actually was hurting middle guys it was actually just feeding in like rookies come in then rookies come out then rookies come in rookies come out and the big name players quarterbacks just make more money so it actually backfired completely on what the objective of the entire thing was they They're like, oh, we'll get this veteran man, guarantee 800 grand, great money, you've been in the league a long time. And GMs were like, I'd rather save the $400,000 there and just bring in this guy
Starting point is 00:40:14 who's not as good at special teams, but eh, just a couple kicks. Get that guy a sealer, take a hike now. That guy's gonna go sell insurance. There's new rookies in until he has the veteran men. Then he's out until the new rookie can come in. And then all that money is going straight to a quarterback anyways. I think they should put the quarterbacks in their own section
Starting point is 00:40:33 where they can get slotted too. Where it's like, okay, this amount is this year's amount. This is this. This is this. Because right now, they put a lot of pressure on quarterbacks and their agents to negotiate a deal bigger than there's ever been before because if you don't do that, the next quarterback will get screwed over by this whole thing,
Starting point is 00:40:49 which makes sense as a team collective bargaining thing. It's like, okay, you got to help out other people. You got to help out those after you or whatever. But it's like I wish somebody would just be like, yeah, I mean, $20 million is a lot of fucking money. I'll take $20 million and spend the other $13 million a year on an offensive line or somebody else. But that being incredibly, a lot of people say business-wise,
Starting point is 00:41:13 dumb move because you can't just get everything you can get. I think I look at it differently. I thought Luck was potentially going to be that guy just because of how simple he is as a human. He rides bikes. He's a very simple guy. But instead, I think his agent and him were basically pressured. Like, no, you've got to get the biggest contract possible.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Now Patrick Mahomes is going to get $200-some million. Dak Prescott, by the way, Dak Prescott played incredible in that game against the Vikings. He's going to get paid. But at some point, all these rich quarterbacks, if you can't put it all on your shoulders, like a certain amount of guys in the history of the game can, you're just going to fizzle out. It's just going to be, see you later. Joe Flacco, see you later. If you can't put it all on your shoulders, like a certain amount of guys in the history of the game can,
Starting point is 00:41:46 you're just going to fizzle out. It's just going to be, see you later. Joe Flacco. See you later. It's just going to happen. Brock Osweiler. See you later.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You get this money and then you fizzle out. See you later. It's just the way it goes. It's just, it's, there's only a couple of people. So it's just, you get your paycheck and then you just,
Starting point is 00:42:01 you retire. See you later. It's over. Great career, great early career. And then it kind of died out because you couldn't build up the team around you. Just one of those things where the NFL is going to have to figure it out
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Starting point is 00:44:39 I mean, you're right. I wouldn't put Joe Flacco as like a good quarterback, but. You made $100 million, won a Super Bowl. Yeah, off of three games. Doesn't matter. That's what I'm saying. He got, boom, big-time money, and then couldn't build a team up around him.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Then he goes to the Broncos, becomes a leader, gets benched. Became a leader. Like, hey, what are we doing here? Is that right? What we are doing is getting you the off the television joe you have a back injury now by the way i are right yeah yeah yeah get the out of there that was a wild scene how does bill chicken and their management figure it out
Starting point is 00:45:18 like they've mastered this salary cap problem like if there's ever an argument like we need to make these changes to save the owners and these systems, they'd be like, Belichick does it. They don't pay anybody. That's what I'm saying. Is it all Tom Brady or is it just they go- They have a culture and a history of winning, so good vets will take a pay cut to go play there.
Starting point is 00:45:38 A lot of pay cuts going on in New England. They draft very well and when it comes time to pay a guy, they let him move on and they draft someone else to replace him. I know. So why can't you just say, well, then you do that? Yeah. It's incredibly hard to do. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:45:49 That makes a lot of sense. Just be able to do what Belly said. Tom's always taking a little less, too, right? Yeah, he's always taking less. Yeah, but he got rich. Yep. Right, he got rich, and then he continued, and then let me get it in a bonus instead of a contract.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah. But he does it right by the team. He helps the team out a lot. For sure. I think it's probably tough to replace guys like Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins, whereas for Belichick, too, it's just a little simpler. Why is that? I think he has a little bit of a good football brain, as they say.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I don't want to go out on a limb, but Bill Belichick. It would be incredible to be able to know that every decision you make is probably gonna work that's what belichick does in football yeah it's like yeah i'll do this this guy wants to talk up in a meeting i'm fucking get him out of here pretty good player though bill get him the fuck out we can find another one We can find another one. You know what I mean? We can find another one.
Starting point is 00:46:47 That's really what happens. And he finds a way. I don't know how he does it. But people do take pay cuts to go up there. What do you think his favorite snack is? I don't know. You think he's a... Swedish fish. Really?
Starting point is 00:46:58 There's no way he likes candy. I don't think he snacks circus peanuts. I wonder if he's like a oatmeal raisin cookie dog. He has to be a yogurt trail mix. Maybe an oatmeal cream pie. Yogurt takes way too long. He has to open the pack and use a spoon. You know, when I did that Navy game, which is where he basically grew up,
Starting point is 00:47:16 they had peanut butter and jelly. That was their snack. And I had a peanut butter. I didn't want to take their jelly. I just had a peanut butter sandwich. I could see him being a peanut butter. I didn't want to take their jelly. I just had a peanut butter sandwich. I could see him being a peanut butter guy. Absolutely. I could see him liking peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:47:31 No crust. And a glass of milk. Somebody cut the crust off this. Come to the angle, please. Do you think he sits for full meals? No. That's what I'm saying. I think PBJ takes too long.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Maybe the Crunchables one. The Uncrustables. There it is. The Uncrustables. The Uncrustables one. It's got to be something where he can just open and eat it. Uncrustables fucking stink. Really?
Starting point is 00:47:55 You don't like them? I mean, the jelly is always ice cold every single time. That's what I'm here for. That sounds good. No. I'm saying almost frozen ice cold. By the way, Uncrustables, I think they have like 7,000 calories in them. Really?
Starting point is 00:48:10 I think so. They do. They were a training camp delight for me there for a while until I got older. My metabolism. Then you got money. No. No, it's strictly fat purposes, not because of anything else. I would eat the hell out of them.
Starting point is 00:48:24 It's pure. It's all sugar and lard. That's all it is. of them. It's pure. It's all sugar and lard. That's all it is. That's how they make it. It's all sugar and lard. Jesus Christ. I was reading, so I didn't hear what he said. He said you're all sugar and lard.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Oh, I'll take that. Sweet. A, B, C. Sweet. Bill Belichick has a video of him making a PB&J, so I'm guessing that is his favorite meal. Great video. Raisin bread, peanut butter, jelly.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Raisin bread? Yeah, cut out molds. That's a nice touch. I don't know what that means. And what? Bill likes a dog bone, but stars and other shapes will work. So he does like cutouts of his- No way.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Is this an onion article? No way. This is real. Bleacherreport.com stars in his shapes or No way. He just has a Lombardi peanut butter and jelly
Starting point is 00:49:13 every morning. It makes sense. That's what the Navy team was having. Lips it over his head. He fucking throws this thing around nowadays. You see what he does
Starting point is 00:49:23 with those things? I mean, Gronkowski played baseball with it That's how much Fuck it And Kraft's like We're gonna keep the den in it Yeah That's kind of the new thing
Starting point is 00:49:33 The Patriots have so many championships They just fuck with them Good for them Who do they play next? We got The Eagles Where at? In Philly
Starting point is 00:49:44 And then Dallas comes. So Belichick had a bye week, though? Yeah, we just had to come off the bye. The Eagles got no shot. Off a loss, too. Night-night. Off a loss, off a bye. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Let's get to 9-1. That Eagles run. I bet you they didn't even take a vacation up there. They probably all just, you know what? We're going to vacation in Foxborough. That's where we're going to vacation at. We're going to go work out. We'll go to the TB12 treatment.
Starting point is 00:50:03 We'll get in a hot tub, and then we'll go home. That's probably what happened up there, if I had to guess. I just feel like they're going to become the greatest team in football all of a sudden after this bye week. And they haven't looked like it, by the way. Haven't needed to yet because that defense has been so dominant. But I assume it's only a matter of time before that offense just fucking starts. Bing, bing, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:50:20 You're the worst. I'm the best. And they have an axe to grind with Philly. Two of them lost two years ago. Something they haven't played since. You thought we were finished? Tom Brady's catching a ball this game. For sure.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Oh, yeah. From Sanu. Yeah. Deep ball, probably. 70-yard bomb. 70-yard bomb to Tom. It's going to be a quad lap. It's going to be a triple pass, right?
Starting point is 00:50:42 To give Tom enough time. Brady's been working on his sprints the last two weeks. He's going to put gloves on for the game. He's going to show up quadruple pass, right, to give Tom enough time. Brady's been working on his sprints the last two weeks. He's going to put gloves on for the game. He's going to show up and look like Kurt Warner. Tom, what's the new? I learned it during the bye. Fucking second play of the game, 70-yard dong to fucking Tom Brady. That would be incredible.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I can't wait. How do you feel about it going in? Their secondary has not been great over there for the Eagles. They have, as of late, though, played very well. I mean, I feel great. I mean, I haven't really been worried about a regular season game in eight years. But, yeah, I feel good, I guess. Just waiting for December.
Starting point is 00:51:18 How old are you? 24. Listen to this, dude. It's been a while. You know, like, some Patriots fans, at least the older ones, they ones they remember when they're bad yeah so they at least have a little humility these younger ones there's no reason to be humble no there's no reason to be humble it's like yeah this is the way the fuck it is i don't know what to tell you guys i only remember winning i don't remember losing that's how the colts fans felt too after peyton left you know what i mean andrew had
Starting point is 00:51:42 success andrew did well but there were some bigtime losses in there that Colts fans were like, this ain't how we fucking cheer for you. This ain't what we're used to. Tom Brady might never die, though. Same with Belichick. And Belichick's kid right below him. Steve Belichick. Interesting haircut.
Starting point is 00:51:58 His haircut is legit. He doesn't care about anything but football. Right when Belichick drops off, Steve Belichick coming in behind him. Steve Belichick looks like a toy doll that some horrible kid got a hold of and tried blowing up 17,000 times. What's your problem? You haven't seen him. That's the best picture that guy's ever taken.
Starting point is 00:52:20 He looks awesome. Yeah, no, he cut his hair. His hair used to be electric. Can we get an up-to-date picture of this guy? He's awesome. The spiky mullet. Oh, God, I saw it. That was the Andre Agassi look.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah, he looked good there. Now he has the spiky mullet. Yeah, it's a tough look. Oh, yeah, it's bad. He did an interview. I mean, no, that's not even there. What's wrong with this guy? Why are you burying this guy?
Starting point is 00:52:39 I've seen nothing like it. If Zito finds a picture of sometime this year. It's shaved like two inches up and just stops wall spiky mullet. I love him even more. I love it. He's the future. I think you've probably seen him on the sidelines. They show him like 12 times a game.
Starting point is 00:52:55 He's the future of the Patriots? Oh, yeah, for sure. Why are you guys so mean to this Steve Belichick? He's the future of the dynasty. Oh, yeah. He probably works his ass off, too, if I had to guess. He did an interview, and he sounded exactly like bill too monotone oh was it was he a lacrosse player uh no he played football he played foosball yeah yeah okay maybe this is like post uh oh this is
Starting point is 00:53:17 like belichick just put like a like a tube to his head and all the football knowledge got into it and that's why his hair is like that now. He's going to be a legend. Yep. A legend. He looks a little tired in that one. I mean, he's watching a lot of film, that guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I mean, I can see where you're coming from with that particular photo, but that's that guy on his worst day. What do you want from me? It's every Sunday. It looks like that every Sunday. Well, he just got done studying six days worth of film. Who do you think is giving Kyle Van Noy the little tip? He should grow his hair out again, though. He should grow his hair out again.
Starting point is 00:53:48 He definitely looks better with the longer flow. When you see him now and you see him on the sideline, you're like, oh, bless his heart. They gave that guy a ball boy job. They choose some very unflattering angles of him on the sideline. I think it's like a game that the broadcasters play. Where's Steve at today? All right, get him now. How old is this guy?
Starting point is 00:54:10 20s, maybe? 20s, 30s. No, he's in his 20s. Is this normal just for everybody? I didn't even know this guy existed until about six minutes ago. Is this normal for everybody just to bury the guy? I mean, it's normal for everyone to bury the Patriots, but I don't think they really care.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Steve did not deserve that. The Belichicks don't care about angles and how they look on camera. I actually love it because he gives zero fucks because he knows I'm the future of football. I'm going to be more dominant than my dad. I have the savant football brain.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I don't need to cut my hair in a normal fashion. I only have to shower most days. Exactly. He just loves it. the way kyle shanahan heir to the throne mike shanahan was one of the best coaches of all time back in the day bang kyle shanahan stepped right into right in the batter's box swung the hell out of his bat now after last night uh still still an undefeated team and kyle looked incredible on the sideline how do we feel?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Very sharp. Very sharp. He's got a good fit, too. He changed the game with the hats and everything. Kyle Shanahan does it on the sideline. Swag Shanahan does it well on the side. 49ers undefeated still. Good for the 49ers, man.
Starting point is 00:55:18 No Kittle is going to be. George Kittle, no Iowa representative on the offensive side of the ball for the Niners last night. That was kind of tough. Jimmy G had to figure it out. You know, he had to use Emmanuel Sanders a little bit more. George Kittle, no Iowa representative on the offensive side of the ball for the Niners last night. That was kind of tough. Jimmy G had to figure it out. You know, he had to use Emmanuel Sanders a little bit more. That run game, though, which is what Kyle Shanahan's very,
Starting point is 00:55:33 very good at designing. Kyle Shanahan's good at everything, by the way. He doesn't get talked about enough because he's up there in San Fran. He's kind of an East Coast bias. But the way he drew that one particular run play up last night to just absolutely spark that 70-yard run last night. Made me go, wow, that guy's really fucking good at coaching football. Anyways, congrats to the 49ers still being undefeated. Good for them.
Starting point is 00:55:54 That was awesome. They only won by six. That was great. That was really good for everybody. Especially those of us who had a 14 parlay. A little 13-1 odds on them. I mean, I feel real good going in. I mean, I do feel good.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And then what Mark Slayer said here in a little bit kind of scared me. Got me off my high horse. 13-1 parlay hitting, though, is always a good time. Oh, yeah. Any time a parlay hits makes you feel like a real genius. That's why you play the game. That's why you play the game. That's why you play the game.
Starting point is 00:56:22 It's time to play the game. play the game. That's why you play the game. That's why you play the game. It's time to play the game. He's having such a good time back there by himself. He's the most tone deaf human in the world. Remember when he used to try to sing the songs coming into our show?
Starting point is 00:56:39 Oh, no. My name is Zito. See, just off by a couple of beats there. Yeah, I didn't have the music behind me. That's why. You were doing acapella. Oh, yeah. Acapella Z.
Starting point is 00:56:52 A-A-P-Z. What's that mean? Advanced Auto Parts Z. Oh, yeah. We read an ad about them earlier today on the show. Oh. And it was exciting to hear. It was very exciting to hear.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Advanced Auto Parts. Just advanced, by the way. Not advanced auto parts. No, because it's happening right now. And they saved Zito's life. If you haven't seen the video, Zito tweeted it out yesterday. Our introduction to advanced auto parts was literally a couple people that worked there were fans of the show, and they found out and heard about Zito pushing his car through a drive-thru at 3 a.m. Because it fucking stopped working at the order.
Starting point is 00:57:35 So at the order thing, it didn't work. While he was in line, did not work. His car just shut down, couldn't turn it back on. Refused to go to a parking spot, Get that son of a bitch towed home. No, no. He said, the sensors won't pick me up if I walk through this thing. I'm going to push my car, my Kia, through the fucking drive-thru at 3 a.m. and get the food.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And did you accomplish that feat? Yes, I did. That Big Mac tasted really good. And I got a video of it from somebody that was there with him that was a little bit embarrassed. And they were like, look what is happening to an employee of yours. And I said, I'm sick of this. I leave the office.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I see fucking Zito jumping his car back. There he is. I just showed it on the video if you're watching on YouTube. He jumps his car daily to get it here. I'm sick of it. He'll spend a billion dollars on a sword. He'll do all these things. And I was was like we're getting you a fucking new battery a lot of people said it was uh alternator
Starting point is 00:58:31 or something like that was not that was not the other i'm getting you a new battery so the other advanced auto parts are like oh we're big fans actually we love zito here's a battery worked out a deal with us now they're a sponsor of the show aap zito you're always playing chess not checkers and i sometimes chinese checkers that's the show thank you so much for listening i would like ty to learn how to play chinese checkers i told you guys about this. You guys want to watch this in San Francisco. So in San Francisco, we were staying in Chinatown,
Starting point is 00:59:10 and there was a park where there was a bunch of Chinese checkers boards with a crowd of Chinese people around it watching these people play. What's up, Diggs? You have a confused face. I used to play it all the time as a kid. Oh, you sucked at it. No, no, no. It's the star checkerboard, right?
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, it was just an imbecile. By the way, we're not sure if those Chinese checkers are not. Yeah, it might have been like Mahjong or something like that. Oh, I bet it was. That's more like... How do you spell that? Figured out. Just like it sounds. Mahjong. Oh, yeah. It's like dominoes, but... Because, Pat, I think
Starting point is 00:59:43 you'd be incredible at Chinese checkers. I don't know. I've never played. It's checkers, but just instead of a square, it's like dominoes. Because, Pat, I think you'd be incredible with Chinese checkers. I don't know. I've never played. It's checkers, but just instead of a square, it's a star, so you could cross over all these different directions. I love checkers. I'm a good checkers player. I'm a good checkers player, but I don't know if I could be with a –
Starting point is 00:59:56 they had a crowd around them. So I wanted Ty to learn whatever that game was and us go to a city where it happens, because I saw it in Chinatown in New York as well. I've seen this in two different parks now, and I would like a white to go in there that i'm with in the middle of their crowd sit down and call game against them i would like to see the reaction from around because it is a real thing there's like 50 people surrounding these two people sitting in a very close quarters it's gonna be like a sequel of white man can't jump oh yes
Starting point is 01:00:23 i would imagine a good deal of money is exchanged as's going to be like a sequel of White Man Can't Jump. Oh, yes. Billy Hoyle right over there. I would imagine a good deal of money is exchanged as well. I think there's a lot of side gambling. I think there's an entire thing. Ty, we have to remind people of this because this is hard to believe, especially because he works here. Was accepted into Harvard. Chose Iowa.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So he's a very big brain, a good brain. Terrible diet, good brain. And I think this is something he could learn how to do and we can make a little thing out of it i want you to do that still to this day very badly yeah well i just to sharpen the sword a little bit i redownloaded the chess app on my phone so i have you know a couple of those iphone games i've been gaming on those flights and getting ready do you play online or is that just against computer uh it's against the computer but i raised their like ai so that it's like comp it's kind of comparable to playing against a real person.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I play against two. In chess? Yeah. That a boy. How does that work? I beat them all the time. You play against two? Yeah, the difficulty level, two.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh, AI two. I thought you meant two people you play against chess. No, that'd be hard. Well, there's people that do that though they can they play one game clock in then they go play the other one i thought you were somehow like going to a vfw on the weekend clocking into these chess games like man timing it like a spinny chair oh it would have been awesome if that was the case i was like well we don't need that mongeon game which is do zito at his vfw playing three people at chess that would
Starting point is 01:01:46 have been beautiful uh so i'm excited to see it i would also like to learn either the fiddle or the electric guitar so i could walk into a howl at the moon grab the fiddle solo walk out not stay for anything longer just walk in. Is this similar to the violin? What's that, bud? Is this similar to the violin? Same thing. Depends on where you're playing it at. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I've dabbled. You play the violin? I've dabbled when I was a kid. I stopped playing because everyone had bigger violins than me. And they made fun of me, so I put it down. It's not the size of your violin. So he realized he was actually in a cello class. Couldn't fit the violin under his neck anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Oh, come on! It hurts my back trying to hold it up and do the strings. Zito, you do not deserve any of that. Two shots fired at the Zito ship. Won't bring it down, though. Bullproof vest, baby. Why is he great till he got to be great? I would like fiddle, though.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I learned that. Fiddle and violin. If you're in an orchestra, it's a violin. If you're in a band, it's a fiddle. That's what I've been told. I mean, if you can play the fiddle, you're going to be the coolest guy every time. So Fitz, Jason, no. Yeah, Jason Fitz.
Starting point is 01:03:03 All I know him as is Fitz. Fitz Simmons? From ESPN. Oh. All I know him as is Fitz. Fitz Simmons? From ESPN. Oh. He hosts a Snapchat show for them. He's at the Game Day show. He used to be in the band Perry. Oh, he does the pre-show for Game Day, right?
Starting point is 01:03:18 With David Pollack? Yes. He was the fiddle player for the band Perry, though. And I asked him, I was like, how long would it take for me to learn how to do Devil Went Down to Georgia? That's all I want. I don't want to know anything else. I just want to know how to do Devil Went Down to Georgia. He was like, it's going to take a little bit, but we can get you there.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I'm like, let's do that. He said a little bit. What does that mean? Like a year? Because I ain't got a year. I was hoping like a week or two. Oh, yeah. With your schedule, it should be no time at all.
Starting point is 01:03:41 You think I'll be able to learn the fiddle in about a week or two? Play what? The biggest fiddle? There he is, right there in the background. That's him. That's Mr. Fitz. Wow. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:03:50 He has a bunch of tats. Gets crowd hype. Does a good job down there. He can play the shit out of a fiddle. What a cool skill. I feel like he should do that on the show. That's what I said. Literally, why are you not in commercial breaks?
Starting point is 01:04:05 What was his answer? I think it kind of got like shooed off or whatever. Like getting the crowd going? Because they have a DJ there. They have this DJ lady that comes to every show. She was in South Dakota and she was in Memphis. And I was in the front for something in Memphis or in South Dakota where they put the bell on me
Starting point is 01:04:21 and I was dancing. And she was like, give it up for this guy. And I was like, this guy like give it up for this guy and I was like this guy like bitch this guy lady there's there's my face literally on somebody's t-shirt okay lady but she is a good DJ she is good she gets it going but couldn't you just plug his fucking fiddle into that something oh yeah especially well anyway imagine a halftime or a commercial break conversation about football conversation about football it stops they play music that stops and then all of a sudden a fucking devil went down to georgia comes out i've never been in a place where that has happened where a fiddler or a violinist goes on to the thing and does the devil 100 where the entire place doesn't just stop what they're doing and go okay here we go because it doesn't matter how old you
Starting point is 01:05:08 are you know that yes you know that and to see somebody do it it'd be interesting i wonder if his hands got cold they'll get cold oh gotta keep those things warm on the fiddle carry one of those uh pockets that they got on uh yeah but what happens when he gets out here what if your fiddles like like uh steering wheels these days where they warm up themselves? Yeah, your fingers get so hot, they stay warm. Oh, because the cords, because you're burning yourself on the things. On the strings. Huh.
Starting point is 01:05:36 All these things are things to think about. Anyways, I'd like to learn how to play the fiddle. I think you should. I'd like Ty to learn how to play that Monjon game. I'd like to learn how to play the fiddle or I think you should. I'd like Ty to learn how to play that Mon Jean game. I'd like to learn how to play the fiddle or the electric guitar just for that one moment. Never again. Play it never again. Because I can already play, what's that song?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Smoke on Water. Yeah. Now, that takes the average human less than 10 seconds to learn. And on an electric guitar, it sounds good. Great. You sound good. Now, granted, there's probably some music purists that'll be like, whose fingers are slipping or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:15 But to the average Joe, it sounds exactly like the thing. Oh, you can play guitar? What? Me? Yeah, a little something, something. And then go down to the bottom. Makes me look like a real G. Yeah, it's a little something, something. And then go down to the bottom. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Makes you look like a real G.
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Starting point is 01:08:26 Joining us now is a man who's accomplished everything you could possibly accomplish on the football field. He dove in the entrepreneurial world with some chili. I've had it. It's fantastic. I think you should, too. Ladies and gentlemen, soap opera star, the handsome, the incomparable Mark Schlereth. Mark, what's going on? How are you, my friend?
Starting point is 01:08:48 I'm great. I'm not as good as you. If I looked in the mirror and saw your face every day, I'd be a lot better. How are you doing? You know what? I'm doing great. You know, the key to that is every time I look in the mirror,
Starting point is 01:08:58 regardless of how old I get, I still see 23. So, you know, I mean, you just got to fool yourself into that. You just got to believe that, and you got to go with that. And as long as you've got that attitude, man, things are going to be good. Hey, delusion's a beautiful thing. Now, let's move forward. Yesterday was a massive NFL weekend. What stuck out to you most on that beautiful games of yesterday?
Starting point is 01:09:21 Well, you know, I think one thing, Pat, that's really interesting is I had a chance to call a Baltimore game a couple weeks ago. And John Harbaugh is just an interesting cat, right? He's a guy that talks about the fact that we're going through a situation here in Baltimore. We're calling it Revolution Baltimore. And he's like, you know, it's one of those, we made a decision to go with Lamar Jackson. We made a decision to go kind of anti-NFL, to kind of rock the boat, if you will. And we sit there and say, we're going to stand behind this. We're going to turn the NFL on its head. We're
Starting point is 01:09:57 going to have a revolution. He told me, hey, in 15 years, there hasn't been a new passing concept in the National Football League in 15 years. And so we're creating a new system. We're creating something that nobody's seen before. We're creating this kind of, quote-unquote, revolution. And, yeah, our quarterback may take a couple of hits a game, but is it really that much more than what a guy takes in the pocket? We don't think it is. So we're going with this system, and consequences be damned.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And I'll tell you what, you look at what they're doing right now, they're one of one that can run this system and consequences be damned. And I'll tell you what, you look at what they're doing right now, they're one of one that can run this system. It's completely unique. And in a day and age in the league where you don't practice in pads, where you don't work on anything, where everything's a walkthrough, how do you prepare to play against an offense that nobody else runs, that there's no carryover, that is completely unique. And look at what they did.
Starting point is 01:10:47 I know Cincinnati's not a very good football team, but look at what they've done the last couple of weeks to New England, to the Bengals. It's just amazing what they're doing right now in Baltimore. And it's all because one coach was forward-thinking enough to say, hey, let's put a plan together, let's take a unique talent, a unique skill set, and let's just completely turn the league on its head.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And I'll tell you what, it's just been amazing to watch. I didn't think it would work. I mean, I'll be the first to jump on that sword and say, man, I didn't believe that was going to work. But it has, and it's been tremendous to watch. Very noble of you, a little accountability from the Stink to say, hey, I didn't think it was going to work. I think a lot of people didn't think it was going to work because a lot of people said, oh, you're going to have a running back at quarterback. We've seen this before with Wildcat.
Starting point is 01:11:30 We've seen this before. But the NFL comes in cycles almost. It's almost like the air raid, the passing game, the rules change. Fantasy football came to open everything up and get that pocket passer. Now with Lamar showcasing the fact that, hey, this team and this game can be run in a completely different fashion, do you think other teams are going to try to follow suit, or is this strictly because Lamar Jackson is an anomaly one-of-one in Baltimore? Well, he is one-of-one, but I think it opens up your eyes to other possibilities.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I mean, I think that's some of what's going on with the Arizona Cardinals right there and Kyler Murray. There's a lot of teams that just would say basically Kyler Murray is off our list. He's 5'9", 5'8", or whatever he is, right? He's just not one of those guys that we believe in. But I think it's opened up kind of the eyes to a different way to do things. I think one of the things that's really interesting about the league right now is it is cyclical like you talked about.
Starting point is 01:12:20 And you watch kind of the way teams are winning right now. Look at the game last night between Dallas Cowboys and the Minnesota Vikings. Like, one of the things that's really interesting to me is when you know how to control a line of scrimmage, you can dictate in those situations. You can run the ball even when everybody and their brother's uncle knows you're going to run the ball. You can have a lot of success. You can dominate a line of scrimmage, and you can win regardless of who your quarterback is, regardless of who your receivers are.
Starting point is 01:12:47 That's something that's coming around right now. A couple weeks ago, I did the Baltimore-Seattle game, and it was really interesting going into a game the following week. The teams, I did a San Francisco-Carolina game, and the teams that ran traditional, like when I came into the league, the traditional offensive formation was essentially 21 personnel or what we would call base back then. And that was a fullback, a tailback, and a, you know, and one tight end.
Starting point is 01:13:16 And that was everybody's base. And now base is really one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, which most people base out of. That's what they do now, which we call 11 personnel or three wides, whatever you want to call it, right? So that's kind of the traditional kind of how things have morphed. Well, the three teams at the time that were the best three teams in the league as far as are in base formation, two backs most,
Starting point is 01:13:45 were the New England Patriots at the time. They were 8-0. It was the San Francisco 49ers at the time. They were 7-0. It was the Minnesota Vikings at 5-2. Those are the teams that played more two-back than any other teams in the league. And it's funny how it kind of morphs back. It becomes, like you said earlier, a little bit cyclical in the way you operate as an offense.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And if you can control a line of scrimmage, man, you can win a hell of a lot of football games. Yeah, smash mouth football is coming back in full effect. As a meathead offensive lineman, you got to love that. I have a question, though. When it comes to your offensive line and you're relying on these big dogs to win your games, what happens when they start having bad games? Like, for instance, the Indianapolis Colts last week in the Pittsburgh Steelers game,
Starting point is 01:14:24 that offensive line got punched in the mouth by Cam Hayward in that Steelers defense and then yesterday they didn't just dominate the line of scrimmage and just run the ball all over the Dolphins what can happen to an offensive line that maybe a a switch can be flipped or something like that how do offensive linemen have bad games is it the same as skill players where you're just mentally out of it or is it one of those things where, hey, sometimes somebody just has your number? Yeah, sometimes it's just a particular player that you line up against. You just don't match up well against that guy's skill set. What you do as a player versus what that guy does, it just doesn't match well.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I think sometimes a lot of it has to do with coaching. How you put a guy in a position to be successful. And oftentimes what you end up doing is you end up putting guys in positions that essentially accentuate the defensive skills and minimize what you're good at. And so you really have to understand who you are, what your group is up front. So you really have to understand who you are, what your group is up front, and if they want to stack you up and essentially say, hey, man, we're just going to put everybody on the line of scrimmage and we're going to dare you to beat us throwing the ball, there have got to be some numbers.
Starting point is 01:15:34 You still have to understand how to run against those and how to get matchups and how to create half a field read type of things, but you still have to be able to throw the football out of those things. You have to have the quarterback to take advantage of those situations, beat the one-on-one coverage and do those things. So a lot of it to me, when offensive lines struggle, I can usually look back at some of the play calls, some of the coaching and say, you know, you haven't put your guys in a real position to have success.
Starting point is 01:16:02 So you've got to understand, Pat, that everybody that plays in the NFL is an exceptionally gifted athlete. I mean, I watch some of the stuff you do, you know, making shots and kicking 60-yard field goals and some of the stuff you do, unbelievable athletic accomplishments in what you are. And so everybody's incredibly gifted as an athlete. But there is no one group that's more overmatched from an athletic standpoint than the offensive line. Look at the defensive linemen in this league. They're 6'6", 255 pounds, and they run 4'4", 640s.
Starting point is 01:16:37 You know, they're ridiculous. And so guys up front are completely overmatched. So it takes, you know takes great coaching, great scheme, and you've got to put your guys in positions to be able to be multiple, be able to show run and to throw it out of that, to show pass and to run out of that. Those things are important. That comes down to coaching and putting your guys in positions to win.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Okay, speaking of coaching and putting your team in a position to win, the Kansas City Chiefs were in the top 10 last week, even after losing some games. They get Pat Mahomes back after dislocating his kneecap. Thanks for the compliment, by the way. I do agree, I am a freak athlete. Pat Mahomes comes back. He throws for 446 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions,
Starting point is 01:17:19 then a botched field goal attempt, and then a blocked field goal attempt. All of a sudden signifies the Tennessee Titans get a win against the Chiefs are the Chiefs dead Schlereth are the Chiefs dead right now no good I mean look it it's it is so funny when you watch the Chiefs the amount of athleticism and talent and speed they have on the offensive side of the ball it's like it's not even fair it's like they just keep plucking guys out, and you're like, how can every guy be faster than the next guy on their offense? It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:52 You saw Tyreek Hill chase down the running back Williams on a 91-yard run, and he beat him by five yards. I mean, it was unbelievable. But every guy seems to have that amount of athleticism and that amount of speed. Obviously, defensively, they just haven't been very good. They've gotten punched in the mouth, 188 yards from Henry yesterday, rushing the football. So that's been a big issue for them.
Starting point is 01:18:17 But they're going to be in games because offensively they're so dynamic, they are so fast, they're so athletically gifted. So they'll be in a lot of games but they they certainly have some issues on the defensive side of the ball there's no question about that uh i'm not going to say that was mark slareth that said that if tyron matthew listens to the show which i've been told he does he's not going to be happy with what you just said but hey you're just saying stats and facts that's on you here's another statter fact that people probably didn't know last time i got a chance to talk with you, you were doing some consulting around the NFL.
Starting point is 01:18:45 You did some for the New Orleans Saints, who looked damn good. Even whenever Drew Brees was out, Teddy Bridgewater, they were able to run the ball. The offensive line did very well. Yesterday, they took a shellacking to a terrible football team in the Atlanta Falcons. Should we look into that more so than that was just a Super Bowl for the Falcons, or are the Saints in potential trouble here?
Starting point is 01:19:05 No, I think that's one of those situations where you just kind of chalk that up to any given Sunday and not prepared to play against a team that, you know, is 1-7 going into that game and hasn't played well. And obviously that was the Atlanta Super Bowl and you didn't answer the bell very well. And so I think those things happen. And sometimes those are the best things that can happen to you as a football team because
Starting point is 01:19:27 they can wake you up. They can shake you up a little bit. And, you know, you can come to the realization that, hey, man, if we're not prepared, if we don't show up every Sunday, if we don't, you know, if we don't pay attention, we're going to get our butts whipped. I mean, that's life in the NFL. I mean, every guy is getting paid. You know, they pay the other guys, too.
Starting point is 01:19:46 They're all professionals. From a talent standpoint, every team is really talented. They still have Matt Ryan. They still have Julio Jones. They still have Calvin Ridley. They still have players, Freeman, that can flat-out play. I just think that's one of those things you chalk up to, hey, man, we were ill-prepared to play. So, you know, I just think that's one of those things you chalk up to, hey, man, we were ill-prepared to play. That's on us as a football team. We didn't get beat. We beat ourselves type of thing.
Starting point is 01:20:12 And so, you know, I wouldn't read too much into the New Orleans Saints. They're a damn good football team. I think a lot of people don't understand that due to the fact that video games kind of make everybody feel as if NFL players are just these perfect humans who don't have emotions or feelings. The thought of needing a wake-up call is something that does happen at every single level. I think even Olympians have this thing happen. So I think that's good for the Saints, especially since they were consulted by the Mark Schlaerth
Starting point is 01:20:40 in the offseason. Happy they're doing well. Last thing before I let you go, I can't thank you enough for joining us. I enjoy every time your mouth opens. That's why I'm going to take whatever you say next to the bank san francisco tonight is minus six and a half at home against the seattle seahawks who should i bet on and what are we going to learn this evening uh lord have mercy um i'm betting everything i have mark no no everything i have is riding on whatever you say in these next couple sentences so we're going to find out how much you like me or not here with your answer all right i well gosh this is this is a tough one i'm taking the niners because i think
Starting point is 01:21:17 the niners are i think they're built the right way i think that uh um i don't think there's anybody from a play callingcalling standpoint that is better at setting plays up than Kyle Shanahan right now. And it's funny, I was talking to one of the players for the Niners this couple weeks ago, and said, you know, we have these Friday meetings, and you've been a part of those meetings, but these Friday
Starting point is 01:21:38 installation meetings, and he goes, we go over the game plan on Friday, and Kyle will put a play up and say, hey, man, this play isn't worth crap. This is a garbage play. This play is going to net us two yards. That's it. That's all we're getting with this play.
Starting point is 01:21:53 But let me tell you why we're going to run this play five times. Because we're going to get five, we're going to get ten yards on those five plays, but it's going to set up four explosives. And you're going to get a deep, you know, you're going to get a deep seam passed out. You know, you're going to get it tight. And it's going to get a seam that's going to set up four explosives. You're going to get a deep seam passed out. Tight end's going to get a seam that's going to be 22 yards. Wide receiver's going to get a sluggo that's going to be a 40-yard
Starting point is 01:22:13 play. This guy's going to get... They'll go through exactly why it's going to work and how they play defense and what coverage they're going to match to that. He goes, every time, he's like... It's like he can read the crystal ball. And he goes, and it constantly works. And he says, this is a bad play, but this is why we're running it.
Starting point is 01:22:31 And so you get complete and total buy-in with the Niners, especially offensively. You get a buy-in from the standpoint of, here's what we're doing. This is why we're doing it. This is how we're going to do it. And this is why you're going to have success doing it. And, like, it is just one of those things that everybody buys in. They're having a lot of fun playing football right now.
Starting point is 01:22:51 I think they're an outstanding football team. All right, you said it. I just brought out the hammer that's been cold. Sam Fran, minus 6 1⁄2 tonight on Monday Night Football. We're going to learn a lot about them. When you learn the why of things, it's easier to buy in as opposed to just what. I think Shanahan doesn't get enough credit. i believe this niners team is incredible on the defensive side of the ball and also on the offense if they can get going playing against a team that
Starting point is 01:23:13 is notoriously good we're going to learn a lot about the niners and finally we can say hey they played somebody too so the san francisco 49ers fans don't crush us for always saying well they haven't really played anybody they're going to play somebody I can't wait to watch them. Mr. Schlereth, I can't thank you enough for joining us. I love your brain. You're the absolute best. Follow him on the internet. What game are you calling next? Do you know? I've got Atlanta at Carolina next weekend. Hey, Kyle Allen, man. I don't know how the hell he's playing football at the level that he's playing it, but that Christian McCaffrey character and that defense, they really seem to get things going. And Olsen made like three primetime catches yesterday.
Starting point is 01:23:47 That should be a fun game for you. Absolutely. Olsen is old, and he's still really good. I like old good things. Well, you're just that, an old good thing, ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:23:58 Mark Schleyer. Thank you, Mark. You got it. You well, Pat. You too, man. Well, Mark's so good. Great guy. He's so good at talking into microphones and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:24:11 So good. Great at working out. He's very good at working out. A lot of videos of him working out on social media. He calls a game. He's funny. He's insightful. I like him a lot.
Starting point is 01:24:20 This guy now, get ready to run through a wall. Joining us now is a coach of an undefeated college football team. A coach of a team that took on the Penn State Nittany Lions this past weekend in what looked to be negative 75 degree temperatures and put on an absolute show. A coach that came on our show last week and motivated the masses. Ladies and gentlemen, row the boat, the elite coach pj fleck thanks for having us on the show appreciate it coach hell of a victory going in there on saturday what a win for the gophers program how are you feeling this monday after probably the biggest win in Minnesota recent history?
Starting point is 01:25:06 Well, it's hard to enjoy it. We're on to Iowa. We were 1-0 in the Penn State season, celebrated that Saturday, and then a little bit of Sunday, and that's it. Then we moved on. So it was a huge game for us. Why? Because it was the next one. I know that sounds cliche, but when you're in a season like ours, that's the most important thing to focus on. Got to give our fans a lot of credit. Sellout crowd, storming the field at the end. Gave our players, gave our state, gave our fans a moment in memory that they'll remember their entire life.
Starting point is 01:25:33 But now we've got to move on. Now we've got to find a way to be better this week than we were last week. Okay, so you said directly after the game to Holly Rowe, I believe, and you just reiterated it the season the penn state season is each week a brand new season in the eyes of the minnesota gophers and what does that entail does that mean an entire new offense an entire new defense an entire new game plan or does it just mean hey this is a week-to-week operation here for the minnesota gophers well it's a combination of both you always have a new game plan for every single team that you face but we're
Starting point is 01:26:04 going to do what we do we're going to do what we do. We're going to do what we do hopefully better this week than we did last week. We're up, and we're going to continue to do everything we can to be a better version of us on a week-to-week basis. But we put everything we possibly can. Since January, we've been talking to our players about championships and restoring the tradition, the seven national championships, the 18 Big Ten championships here at University of Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:26:26 And so that's a lot of pressure. And we talk about one game, championship seasons. Every game we played in this year, we have told our team is a championship game to get them ready for these types of games coming down the stretch, especially with a really good Iowa football team at Kinnick Stadium at 3 o'clock on Saturday. So it's its own entity. It's its own championship game.
Starting point is 01:26:45 It's one at a time. We don't treat it. This is not cliche type talk within our program. It's real. And our players truly buy into that, believe that, and our coaching staff pushes that forward. 3 o'clock Central, 4 o'clock Eastern, Saturday, you travel into Kinnick, Iowa. Now, I will talk to you about them loving the upset at home in November. It's kind of something Iowa has done historically.
Starting point is 01:27:10 It's like in November, very difficult to play in Kinnick. But I want to talk about your quarterback for a second. Joe Burrow gets talked about. Tua gets talked about. Air Bear gets talked about. A lot of quarterbacks get talked about in college football. But Tanner Morgan put on an absolute show on saturday with your weapons at wide receiver can you tell us more about him well he's just he's a winner
Starting point is 01:27:30 he's been very successful his entire life he took his high school from three wins spun it around to 12 wins uh he's one of those young men that is just an incredible leader he's infectious he's a tremendous tremendous individual on the field and off the field and his intangibles are through the roof. If you walk through the door, you would never think he's a quarterback of a Big Ten institution. He looks just like me, you know, six foot nothing, 200 pounds of nothing, but he is one of the best game managers that I've been around. He's smart enough to distribute to big-time playmakers, and that's what the real quarterbacks do. They're point guards in basketball.
Starting point is 01:28:07 They distribute, get the balls of their playmakers, make everybody else around them better, and lead the football team. And that's what Tanner Morgan does, and he's really good at it. He is. I mean, I think 13, I think, was the one who would make a lot of big plays. You have weapons out there at wide receiver. I don't think enough people are talking about that go for football team. I have you at my number four. I believe the ap has you at seven herb street had
Starting point is 01:28:28 you at six i think your team is going into uncharted territory right now for the minnesota gophers of recent history right now you're going into iowa coming off a huge emotional game against penn state i know each week is its own season but how are you going to temper the boys this week what is the message to the team? Same thing as it is every week, I assume? Same thing. We went right back to work last night. Had a great practice last night under the lights.
Starting point is 01:28:51 We call it Sunday night football. Had a wonderful practice. Guys know what to do. We've been preparing for this for a long time. When you have an opportunity like it, you've got to take advantage of it. Moments and memories don't come around like this very often at times. You can never take it for granted. our players have done that since day one. They have not taken it for granted. It's a very special team. It's very connected.
Starting point is 01:29:12 They love each other. They sacrifice for each other when they're fully committed. And when you have a team that's fully committed, you have a chance. And it doesn't promise us anything. It doesn't guarantee us anything. But it gives us a better chance. And if you can keep stacking up those chances every single week, you got a better chance. And if you can keep stacking up those chances every single week, you've got a better chance, and that's all you can ask for. It's a special team to coach. They went right back to work last night, and we've just got to find a way to change our best.
Starting point is 01:29:34 I talked to Herbie, I think either Saturday or yesterday. I forget the day. But I told him, I said, hey, man, I like the Gophers. Not only because PJ allowed us access into his facility last year when we had to train, not only because he came on my show and was an electric factory, not only because of the big win against Penn State, but because it's hard to beat a team that's all in. It feels as if your team is all in. And it's not just your team, by the way. I think it's the entire state of Minnesota. This is the first time where I've seen a coach get signed to a seven-year extension
Starting point is 01:30:06 and the entire state be like, yep, this is a good move. Most people are like, no, no. Then you've got little children dressing as you at the game. It seems to be that the entire state of Minnesota has taken on this Necton mentality. How does it feel to be at home in Minnesota and to be at a place that is embracing the hell out of the culture that you've built? Well, it's powerful because it's going to take all of us. home in Minnesota and to be at a place that is embracing the hell out of the culture that you've built? Well, it's powerful because it's going to take all of us.
Starting point is 01:30:30 You know, the day I got the job, I said it's going to take the entire state of Minnesota to restore the traditions of old. It's not about the head football coach. It's not just about our community. It's not just about our players. It's not just about our administration. It's not just about our alum. It's going to take every single one of us. And, you know, I get to be the messenger,
Starting point is 01:30:45 and I think that's a powerful job, and that takes a lot of responsibility. And you have to be able to understand that. The hard part about being the standards, you're the standard. And we have to be very consistent in how we do that. But it's about all of us. And that's what I love about this state. Everybody's all in for the Gophers.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Everybody wants the success of the Gophers. And it's going to just take all of us changing our thoughts, perceptions, ideas of possible past to be able to change our future. And I think that's what we've started to do here. We're not where we're going to be. We still have a long way to go and a lot of room to grow. But again, it's a start. And we talked about waking up the sleeping giant and hopefully we're starting to get him to at least start yawning and wake up a little bit. Does anything scare you? Anything at all scare PJ Fleck?
Starting point is 01:31:35 Oh, absolutely. High escalators. Are you scared of heights? I don't do the water tower place in Chicago. There are too many escalators. I do not like that. I like being closed. What about when it comes to college football? Does it not scare you that just the opinions of a couple old whites in a room
Starting point is 01:31:53 decide the entire factor on whether or not Minnesota Gophers will make it into the college football playoff if you guys go undefeated? Does that scare you at all? Just like any team, everybody controls what you can control, and that's the pressure. Pressure is earned. Pressure is something that you work your entire life for. And then when you have it, you're ready for it because it's earned. And it's something that means that your life is very significant. Stress is what you can't control.
Starting point is 01:32:15 It's the outside world. And we do everything we can to just handle what we can handle, control what we can control. People are going to put numbers on you and labels on you, but we teach our players every day, don't allow going to put numbers on you and labels on you, but we teach our players every day, don't allow somebody to put a number or a label on you. You've got to find a way to be the best you possibly can be. And we define success not by numbers, but by doing everything you can to be the best you can be as long as you change your best.
Starting point is 01:32:37 And that way you can have no regrets. And no matter what, this team's working their tail ends off. It's been an unbelievable year up to this point and all the one-game seasons. But we've got to find a way to keep changing our best and keep learning from our past to create our future. When you had the lead at halftime, and I knew you were going to go speak to your team again,
Starting point is 01:32:55 I knew there was no shot you guys were losing. Every time you speak, B.J., I'm ready to run through a wall, pal. Well, I appreciate that. And the whole part about scaring part, we tell our players all the time if it scares you that means it's big enough and we want them to be scared when it comes to your dreams your hopes your aspirations because if they don't scare you that means they're not big enough and that's the way we want our people in the state of minnesota to think we want them
Starting point is 01:33:20 thinking on the big scale and it's hard to i it, it's hard to at times because of past. And the past always gets in the way of the future. But that's where we've got to change our thoughts, perceptions, and ideas. So, you know, the challenge to our players every day is scare yourself so you continue to change your best. Make your dreams really big. And I think that's a really good way to live. Scary way to live,
Starting point is 01:33:39 but that means you're doing something really right. Jeez, BJ. Alright, Coach Fleck, I mean, you're absolutely motivating and inspiring. And the fact that you weren't scared at all when you went and played goalie against the Minnesota hockey team is interesting to me. That wasn't too many pads. I didn't even feel one of the pucks. The only times I stopped things was actually when I actually got in the way of the puck.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I don't think that was a true save. It just hit me. I wasn't good with the rebounds. Yeah. I mean, ice is a whole different animal out there, but you're going to have to deal with that a lot in Minnesota. Kinnick Stadium, Iowa, November. I mean, this has all the makings to be an instant classic.
Starting point is 01:34:19 We'd love for you guys to just come out, blow them out early, so I can get my row the boat in early tweets, and then I can just kind of relax for the rest of the game. Can you make the boys do that for me? Kinnick Stadium is a very tough place to play. They're a really good football team, obviously already in the top 25, been in the top 25 for a long time. It's one of those developmental programs in terms of they just continue to reload
Starting point is 01:34:40 every single year. They have the cultural sustainability. Kirk Ferris does a really good job. They're a tough football team. They play great, sound defense. And offensively, they control the ball, and they don't beat themselves. They're a very, very talented, really good football team. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Well, good luck, Coach, with that Necton mentality. Never fool. Always want more. Farmers Alliance, undefeated Gopher, Coach. Thank you so much for taking time with us today, Coach Fleck. Listen, we appreciate it. Row the boat, Sky, you muggle gophers. Thank you. Hey, damn right, Sky, you muggle gophers.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Didn't even get to ask him about the crowd surf there. It was on tip of my tongue, but we got a hard out. Pressure. Pressure is, what do you say, stress is coming when you think about things you can't control. Pressure is when the moments are big enough. Pressure. Pressure is, what do you say, stress is coming when you think about things you can't control. Pressure is when the moments are big enough. Pressure is earned.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Man, what a mindset right there. Because handling those situations is something that the coach can help control the narrative. And when you've got that guy leading the charge, man, everybody's all in. I'll tell you what, I would run through a wall for that guy, I think. I don't know if 18-year-old me would have. But I think 32-year-old me is in a good spot. Man, that guy. Mekton mentality.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Mekton mentality. Get you going. The best. The best. Around. It'll be interesting, too, to see how Minnesota responds and deals with adversity after losing to Iowa this week. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:36:04 This show came out on Tuesday. It's not next week yet. Oh, you're saying they're going to lose? Yeah, it's upcoming Saturday. Whoa. Ty. Is that guaranteed? Guaranteed.
Starting point is 01:36:16 3 o'clock Central? 3 o'clock Central time, 4 o'clock Eastern time. You're guaranteeing the Iowa Hawks? No, no. Iowa fucking stinks, so I'm not going to guarantee anything. But, you know, I'll tell you what. If I get this on record right now, I mean'll look pretty good come up come sunday monday and if it doesn't happen never be talked about again yeah exactly guess what they're supposed to get
Starting point is 01:36:32 beat they fucking stink their quarterback stinks i mean but kinnick is a tough place to play gotta wave to the hospital yeah yep pj fleck by the way, will have his boys waving. Oh yeah. First class organization. He probably has a sign. They're probably going to hold up a sign from the whole sideline. They should. What if he taught them all sign language for them to be signing to the hospital during that wave? Everybody from
Starting point is 01:36:57 Iowa's waving and the entire Minnesota Gover team's like, hi, thanks for watching today. That's something PJ Fleck would do. He's like, alright boys, here we go. Not thatar mentality. That's something P.J. Fleck would do. He's like, all right, boys, here we go. Not that we got enough to prepare for already. We're going to learn sign language in four days because we're going to do it to the kids in the hospital
Starting point is 01:37:12 because that's the right thing to do. Everybody's like, yes, sir. And they fucking just sign the whole thing. It looks like a bunch of gang signs. I really like P.J. Fleck. Just at the end of the conversation there, I said, when I was 18 i don't know if i would have loved the nekton mentality that pj fleck i think it would have been good for
Starting point is 01:37:30 me i don't think i would have loved it but now that i'm a third two-year-old potentially gonna have a kid in the next decade or so i wouldn't mind if my kid went to that it feels like a church over there pj fleck i mean they are all in in minnesota well and like mine at all like he said in the first time we talked to him, not everyone's going to buy into that, but the ones who do are willing to die on the field for that team. Yeah, for that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:52 For everything. I mean, he crowd surfed in the locker room after a win, and he came in there full speed. Those dudes didn't flinch. And by the way, in that game, if you're preparing that every game is a championship game, I mean, that puts you in a mindset to be a lot more comfortable whenever shit does hit the fan.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I'm happy for him. I'm happy for the Gophers. Tonight, the College Football Playoff Committee comes out with their rankings. I don't know if they have the Gophers at four like I have on mine, but that's my fourth is the Minnesota Gophers. Number one, LSU. Number two, Ohio State. Number two, Ohio State. Number three, Clemson. Number four,
Starting point is 01:38:29 Minnesota Gophers. Have at it. Good luck arguing that one. Have at it. Can't do it. I don't want to fucking hear it either. Joe Burrow probably went to Heisman. He's a stud. He's going to be good in the NFL. LSU should be very thankful
Starting point is 01:38:43 that he transferred. Coach O, after the game, by the by the way fucking love it we learned a lot about Coach O in that also broke down the team on the A in the middle of the Alabama field I mean Coach O is is building and bringing that swag back to LSU and Louisiana and that offense is lethal they are threatening they are awesome and the defense plays no games too too. LSU is very, very good. Clemson gets no love. Doesn't matter. They'll be there. They'll be there.
Starting point is 01:39:10 In Ohio State, I mean, even if Chase Young's out two games, four games, however many games, or he's just calling it quits, oh, boy. What did Rex Ryan say on Get Up About Clemson? Oh, dude, it's so funny. He said, I'll tell you what, Minnesota, you row that boat down on the Clemson, you get beat by 40. He loves Clemson. Oh, dude. It's so funny. He said, I'll tell you what, Minnesota, you row that boat down on the Clemson, you get beat by 40. He loves Clemson.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Yes. I don't know why. I think something with him and Dabo, he has a connection with Clemson somehow. I think one of his kids. Yeah, one of his kids. You row that boat right on down the Clemson. You get beat by 40.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Where's your undefeated Baylor Bears falling? Baylor Bears are either five or six, depending on where it is. They're going to have a clash with Oklahoma now. That was a good game, too, this weekend. Baylor Bears are either five or six. Depending on where it is. They're going to have a clash with Oklahoma now. That was a good game too this weekend. Baylor TCU was a very
Starting point is 01:39:49 good game. Yeah. Everybody knew TCU too with Gary Patterson coaching over there. It could be a good game. Baylor gets out of there with a win.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Great teams win those close games. Doesn't matter who you're playing against. Can happen. Clemson struggled with UNC. That's where they were
Starting point is 01:40:00 last week. But college football, a lot to happen, man. Happy we broke it all down. College football analysts, catch me on Thursday night. University of Pittsburgh hosting the North Carolina Tar Heels. There will be
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Starting point is 01:40:29 A former cop. Always a Marine. Ura! Todd, happy Veterans Day. Happy Veterans Day, Todd. Appreciate that. Happy Veterans Day to all of those who have signed and will sign
Starting point is 01:40:47 in the future we appreciate the hell out of you our little marine our devil dog our screamer is a man that
Starting point is 01:41:00 I'm very thankful is in our lives and I think you should enjoy this veterans day man I hope you do I hope you should enjoy this Veterans Day, man. I hope you do. I hope you have. I might go get some free Applebee's.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Is that a thing? Oh, yeah. My dad and I used to do that. That's awesome. My dad loves to go there. Was your dad a Marine? Yeah, he was. Really?
Starting point is 01:41:16 Yep. So you pretty much, did you know that Marines was going to be your thing whenever you decided you were going to go to the military? Were you like, okay, I'm going to do what my old man did? Yeah, because there's that pressure on you. You know what I mean? Is the Marine a legacy thing? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Really? I'm a much older and smarter man now. All of them are awesome. The Marines are not necessarily the baddest ass of all. You know what I mean? But you think that when you're 17 and your dad did it, and you hear all his stories, and you watch Full Metal Jacket. So I felt that pressure, like, I can't go anywhere else.
Starting point is 01:41:49 I'd be intrigued to see what you would have done now if you were going to go out. I think it would be hard if I had the swimming ability. I think I'd be like, man, I mean, this is back, obviously, at a very different time. But I think it's all about what you know. Like, Full Metal Jacket, right, was marketing for the Marines, basically. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:08 I mean, I guess not, because old buddy kills himself. But just hearing about the Marines, you hear about the Navy SEALs now for the last, what? Great marketing. Not only great marketing. I mean, the things they've accomplished. Yeah. It sells itself, because you see so many cool videos and hear so many cool stories now but then you meet like the green berets that did the 12 strong thing the horse and it's like oh well wait a minute now
Starting point is 01:42:34 maybe the green beret there it feels as if each particular arm or branch of the military has their own specialty and it's like it depends on what you're good at and what you're not good at. After we talked to those horse soldiers, guys, I, without a doubt, would go in the army and just try my ass off to become a Green Brand. I know not everybody gets to do it. Could I make it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:55 But that would be what I would strive for. Yeah, because it sounds fucking incredible. Oh, yeah. What do they say? Through something or with, right? Like, that's their... Through, yeah. Through something or with. Like, they gotta that's their... Through, yeah. Through something or with.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Like, they got to be democratic through the whole thing as well. They're befriending people. They're joining other people's armies. And then at the same time, they have to lead and do... It's a very... It's a diplomatic field, the Green Berets are. It was nice to learn about that. It was.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Poor soldier bourbon, by the way. No, I'm wearing the hat. Great hat. There it is. Good bourbon, too. What was the one we had? It was like 110 or something. It was. Poor soldier bourbon, by the way. No, I'm wearing the hat. Great hat. There it is. Good bourbon, too. What was the one we had? It was like 110 or something. It was strong.
Starting point is 01:43:29 It was strong. It was delicious. Smooth, though. It was smooth, and we took it with the guys. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's a whole difference. After they took out a pellet gun and just sniped some pedophiles in the office.
Starting point is 01:43:40 It was fun. There was pictures of pedophiles. Bailey and I stopped by a liquor store on the north side of Indianapolis and went in to get a bottle of it and just out of curiosity
Starting point is 01:43:51 we were like hey how's this sell for you guys and they're like you know we first got it it just sat here for a while
Starting point is 01:43:56 and then all of a sudden one day it was our top selling bourbon I was like oh we know what happened oh that is it's a great story though
Starting point is 01:44:04 yeah I mean it's a great story it's a great bourbon made by great individuals go and have i hope you had one yesterday at least in salute to the veterans uh one day obviously not enough to say thank you and i've said this before and i've said again like whether you're pro-war or against war because there are people that are pro-war like yeah we have to do that and then there's people that are super against war we we know that you have to be pro-warrior because that's the human and the whole thing no matter how you feel about the politics because sometimes shit can't get sideways you're like wait a minute
Starting point is 01:44:30 what is that even happening for you gotta remember the people that are actually boots on the ground and doing that they're not the ones making those very selfish decisions you know what i mean so it's like the vets sacrificing much more than anyone that is too exactly and signing a line saying yeah we understand what can happen. In recent history now, Todd, I don't want to speak out of turn here, and you might be more knowledgeable in this situation than me. When I did work with Wish for Our Heroes, there's a guy named Eric Orek who, Purple Heart Award winner,
Starting point is 01:45:01 was in the military a long time. Now he helps run a foundation that takes care of other vets in a way that I would assume Wounded Warrior says they do, but actual, like buying diapers and paying mortgages and not the glamorous things, like the real stuff. He said these modern-day warriors, when they signed up, they knew they were going to war. Whenever they signed up for the military,
Starting point is 01:45:21 they know they're going to war of some sort, where for a time in our history, it wasn't always like that. People signed up, and then they ended up for the military they're like they know they're going to war of some sort where for a time in our history it wasn't always like that people sign up and then they ended up in a war and it was like okay here we go this is what our training was for now whenever people are signing up it's like all right we know some shit's gonna pop off like and that's what they're signing up for that's great great example there because in my era way different like now you they know i'm gonna probably have two three maybe four tours of duty in a combat environment. I just know that going in. When I signed up, there had been peacetime for a very long time.
Starting point is 01:45:51 So I signed up under that. And then I'm in there all of a sudden. They're like, oh, hey, actually, we're going to participate in this war of the desert. I'm like, hold on a minute. What are we talking about? War of what? Yeah, because nothing had gone on for a long time. And now.
Starting point is 01:46:05 So now it's, yeah, you nailed it. Like for a kid to sign up now knowing that he's going to go into that and seeing all the stories that happened with the guys coming back. And you hear about the 22 per day. It's like it's a very, by the way, incredible badass human beings that are signing up for that, selfless human beings. And happy Veterans Day to all of them. Thank you.
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