The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1292 - Live From Super Bowl Radio Row in New Orleans, Fred Warner, Trey Hendrickson, Thomas Morstead, Pacman Jones, Chris Fallica & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. And welcome to the convention center down here in New Orleans for Super Bowl 59. It's Wednesday, and this sports program starts right now. Football! It is wonderful and it is an absolute honor to be able to feel the buzz. It is palpable in New Orleans for the Super Bowl,

Starting point is 00:00:20 which kicks off on Sunday at 6 30 between the AFC champion and also the back to back Super Bowl champion, Kansas city chiefs led by Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Ooh, she's part of the fan base. And anytime she's part of anything, you obviously have to mention her name, but on the defensive side, Spagnola, Chris Jones and a litany of boys are ready to run wild in the Superdome. And then the Philadelphia Eagles led by Nick Sirianni who might not be a big dumb tip shit

Starting point is 00:00:50 Potentially might not be the dumbest guy in football like everybody on TV was saying for a large portion of this NFL season What Jalen Hurts who was throwing the ball all over? The yard a man who was able to throw seeds if he had to even though all season long people been saying Jalen hurts can't he can't throw the ball can't throw football no say Kwon Barkley can run but the quarterback can't do shit who's saying that a Q not sure you tell me you and many others Barkley in an offensive line over there have a run game that reminds us of the good old days whenever football was ground and pound all the time.

Starting point is 00:01:28 It's going to be a fantastic game to wrap up this wonderful NFL season and we are so incredibly honored to be a part of this radio row operation. You know there's a lot of people that think radio rows beneath them. Radio row is the Super Bowl. I don't fully understand people that come to a city to do media and don't come here. Foxy, hit that top camera once again. Look at this convention center. It's filled with podcasters, local radio, local TV, international TV, international

Starting point is 00:01:56 podcast, college kids. The future of media is here in every single one of the companies that pays money to the NFL throughout the season for commercials or for ad spots or for appearances, they pay a bunch of people to come through here. So the amount of guests we're about to have over the next three days is about to be fantastic. Today, Fred Warner. Yes, that Fred Warner. Mormon friend of program.

Starting point is 00:02:19 San Francisco 49er madman linebacker will be joining us in this seat in a matter of moments. And in the second hour, Trey Hendrickson, defensive end pass rusher for the Cincinnatibacker will be joining us in this seat in a matter of moments and in the second hour Trey Hendrickson defensive end pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals will be joining us he doesn't wear gloves and he also doesn't talk to the media much so I had a chance to catch up with him just yesterday he's babyface assassin yeah oh yeah looks like he's 13 years old has 35 and a half sacks over the last two years was the NFL sack leader in this particular season now there's a contract coming up here for Trey Hendrickson. There's a lot of that in Cincinnati.

Starting point is 00:02:48 Can't wait to talk to him about the year that was in Cincy and also what his future looks like. And also, how's he not getting wrinkles in a high stress position of being a pass rusher? It's about to be a glorious time. I'm obviously not alone. The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty Schmidt, another Radio Row.

Starting point is 00:03:03 How's it feel? It feels good to be back down here. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, you mentioned it. You know, the buzz, the energy, it's palpable. We get pretty comfortable, you know, being in the Thunderdome kind of doing our own thing, you know, just day after day. Hey, let's grind these shows out.

Starting point is 00:03:16 So getting down here and being in front of all these people, it's incredible. And you know, New Orleans, what a host city. What a host city. What an unbelievable host city. What a beautiful place. Gorgeous. Absolutely. You know, we have- So a host city. What a host city. What an unbelievable host city. What a beautiful place. Gorgeous. Absolutely. So much history here.

Starting point is 00:03:27 So much history, you know, I love the Cajun flavor. So being down here, we talked about it yesterday. Our first radio row in Miami, inside of a shoe box. Look at this set, you know, we've come a long way. Shout out to FOSS, ESPN, Mystic Scene Set, and all the people behind the scenes that set this up for us. It looks way too nice.

Starting point is 00:03:44 Incredible. Way too cool for something for us. It looks way too nice. Incredible. Way too cool for something for us to be a part of, but we're very appreciative. Also, shout out to... Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Sweet Eunice. The Louisiana State Troopers. Poison Blue.

Starting point is 00:03:56 They were in some clean-ass blues as we walked in here. They said there's going to be something left on your set that you can't just buy. We just want to say thanks for spending time with us. I guess they listen to us while they're in the cars. I think I'm learning about that a lot with State Troopers. And also we got this license plate. Shout out to the Troopers. Shout out to the Troopers. Shout out Troopers. First responders, you know, the whole thing. We are very grateful and thank you for welcoming us into the city. We are very thankful to be here. Boston Connor, you got a nice welcome last night down to

Starting point is 00:04:24 Casino Pal, huh? Yeah, yeah. Formerly Harris, now Caesars. It Boston corner. You got a nice welcome last night down to casino pal Formerly Harris now Caesars. It was fantastic You know me and Ty debauch a couple others Foxy we went over there, you know, just Foxy made it out His eyes were barely open but he was there in spirit either way and you know, we had one very zany Dealer who was kind of screwing around a little bit, a little bit too much, but one of the other dealers gave us a couple spots to go to. He said, look, this is Southern Detroit, brother. This is exactly the type of city you want to be in. And I said, Hey, that's perfect. What do you mean? This is Southern Detroit. People are just saying this is warm Detroit. I know you said there's a

Starting point is 00:05:00 lot of history in this city. I would say sure. I guess maybe there is because all the buildings are old and shitty. But again, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:05:17 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, was super nice. By far best draft ever. I think they said there was like 2 million people there but Detroit certainly held up their end of the board. Yeah. And this is just warm Detroit and I'm pumped to be here and I'm excited for the week that's going to be. I don't know who you're taking a shot at there. I'm nobody. I think you guys are just making it seem like I'm taking a shot. But I'm not. Yeah. No one's losing here. This is a fantastic place to be. It's warm outside. I mean you really can't ask for more in the casinos handing out money. Oh yeah. I heard you one last night. Congrats. If this was all to place to be. It's warm outside. I mean, you really can't ask for more in the casinos handing out money. Oh, yeah. I heard you won last night.

Starting point is 00:05:48 Congrats. If this was all to get to that, congrats. I was just telling you what I was seeing. I was we got the lay of the land. We kind of know where we are now in the city. And again, I love Detroit. Yeah. New Orleans is just warm Detroit with a few more outdoor places

Starting point is 00:06:02 to go. I love it. Okay. All right. That certainly sounds like the case. And shout to you guys for making that happen going over there. I took a nine hour coma as soon as we got here. It was great way to start the Super Bowl week.

Starting point is 00:06:15 Nine year NFL vet looking as cool down here as he does at the Thunderdome. One of the biggest brains in football hosted. Everything DB, good, deep, bad, DL year. Ladies and gentlemen, Derrick T. Ball was here. D-Buch, D-B there's a bunch of super cool man. What's something we need to think about going into this game that maybe hasn't been chatted about you think I saw cool stat. No, you know spags gets talked about a lot rightfully. So defensive mastermind but Vic

Starting point is 00:06:36 Fangio chasing his first championship as a defense coordinator his defense five and oh on turf which this Super Bowl will be played on a Sunday. I mean defense win championships. We know that faster faster turf but I mean you know some of these stats you know they all mean something so I saw this one and now only giving up 11 points a game so you know Chiefs haven't been as explosive on offense so that's something I'm keeping an eye on you know those exciting whites back there got

Starting point is 00:07:01 dogs up front dogs up and down that defense you know defense win championship so I'm excited about my Eagles and how they're performing. Are you doing a postseason everything DB team? And is there maybe any Caucasians that might make it? We'll see. We'll see. Some good ones. There's some good ones out there.

Starting point is 00:07:17 You know, Bon Bon's halfway there. He might be a defensive player of the year. We'll have Fred. I'll probably ask him about Zach Bon, his running mate on that second level with the linebacker position. But yeah, it may be some, maybe a couple of athletic white guys that crack that team. I'll probably ask him about Zach Bond his running mate on that second level with the linebacker position But yeah, it may be some maybe a couple athletic white guys that crack that team both These defenses are obviously incredibly well coached and they execute well We actually have a graphic about the amount of experience at the defensive coordinator position and it is

Starting point is 00:07:36 Bananas whenever you have the top left corner there is Dick LeBeau Obviously he's been around long long time feels like if you're a good defensive coordinator gonna have a job forever if you want it 38 years of NFL experience for Paizano Fangio, and 21, or I'm sorry, 27 years of experience for Paizano Spagnolo. Look at the 34 years of combined defensive coordinator experience on this. Geez.

Starting point is 00:07:59 The coaching staffs for both of these teams, elite. Even though everybody thinks Sirianni's a... Just some big thumb-dip shit. Yeah, he's not. Everybody out there's got big brains. And the five and 0 on turf, the Eagles defense is suited for that because of how fast they are? Or is this just...

Starting point is 00:08:12 You know, it's one of those stats, you know, you can take it for, you know, grain of salt. You know, it's the Chiefs, it's the Eagles, two very good teams. It's gonna come down to the fourth quarter. I think it'll be a close ball game. We know Spags, when all the marbles on the table, he's probably gonna bring some pressure.

Starting point is 00:08:24 His marbles, yeah. It's kind of, you know, keep everything in front, rally and tackle and get after the passes. So we'll see. Okay. And ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, wearing a thick hoodie down here. Wow.

Starting point is 00:08:39 Which is a good move. Sway it out. That's right. Sway it out. I get work out in anywhere. He's just walking around town. Ladies and gentlemen, A. I work out anywhere. He's just walking around time. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker.

Starting point is 00:08:48 Hawker, you said something earlier that you said nobody's talking about it, but it's real, especially in this particular case. Well, I feel like people are talking about at least to me when they ask me who's going to win the game. Random people will say, Oh, are you one of those people that's against the chiefs? Are you you want the chiefs to lose with the whole Taylor Swift situation? I think if the chiefs do win this three and they get this three Pete, the people that's against the chiefs or you you want the chiefs to lose with the whole Taylor Swift situation I think if the chiefs do win this three and they get

Starting point is 00:09:06 this three Pete the people that have been hating on the chiefs they can thank themselves because I think that's the motivation that they gave. I feel like when you've won two in a row like it's very easy to get comfortable and get

Starting point is 00:09:16 complacent I think in that whole situation and you need something to rally around as a team so the chiefs easily can feel like hey it's us against the world right now. Everybody wants to beat us us everyone wants they're watching the Super Bowl to see us lose like back in the day Floyd Mayweather either you

Starting point is 00:09:29 love Floyd Mayweather or you're watching to see him get beat I feel like that's where the Chiefs are right now yeah and Floyd Mayweather utilized that in promotion and in motivation and everything in the gym also the refs getting at it into it I feel like you heard Travis talk about how like a media people okay you don't want to talk about. I feel like you heard Travis talk about how like, hey media people, okay, you don't wanna talk about how good we are, okay. You don't wanna talk about how much work we've had to put in to be able to be in the place that we're in.

Starting point is 00:09:51 You don't wanna talk about how talented this particular roster is, or how lack of talent this roster has maybe compared to other people and how good of a football team we are. I think they're using all of that shit. All these people, we hear about them at the top. They're finding reasons, finding reasons,

Starting point is 00:10:05 finding reasons. It's the people that are walking around, they hate the Chiefs on the internet because everybody sees everything. I think the ref's narrative has become one of the new ones as well. A lot of people against the Chiefs, a lot of shit for them to draw inspiration from.

Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh yeah, and they don't even have to talk about it. You know, like when a team collectively comes together and you have one common like opponent or someone that you hate as a team together, not one singular person could even be your coach. Absolutely teams have definitely there's a lot of motivation and hate. That's the thing. You can't live on it but it can wake you up early in the morning when you don't want to wake up if you truly you know despise what's going on or you feel like you're being painted in the wrong light. painted in the wrong light. And I think the chiefs right now feel like, hey, everybody wants us to lose. What better motivation to go out there and win and stick it to everybody? Yeah, and it very easily could turn into a fist fight.

Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah, and get physical out there, especially with how tight it is. That means it's gonna come down to trenches, always does. Ladies and gentlemen, 12 year NFL veteran, Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shippley. Thank you. We're handing out the trenches this year. I don't know if you saw Deion Dawkins said he would like the NFL to acknowledge The best offensive lineman in the NFL should probably do tackle and then interior

Starting point is 00:11:14 Should probably do two awards if they're going to do it so then it's not all tackle tackle tackle tackle tackle tackle every single time Uh, even though that particular position currently is talking about an interior offensive lineman joe toony is There's stats coming out now about joe toony about what he did new england now what's doing with the Chiefs. He goes from a Hall of Fame career inside out to the tackle. Has he done anything to make sure you think to yourself, maybe this Kansas City Chiefs offensive line is ready for this Philadelphia Eagles defensive line? Or do you think the advantage in the offensive line is still heavily skewed into the Philadelphia Eagles favor?

Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, I think it's still heavily skewed. The Philadelphia Eagles have the best offensive line in football. There's no question about that. Is there like a historic conversation with them or no? Well, listen, I mean, I think it's still heavily skewed. The Philadelphia Eagles have the best offensive line in football. There's no question about that. Is there like a historic conversation with them or no? Well, listen, I mean, I think you've mentioned it so many times about the amount of yards that Saquon has before getting touched. That speaks specifically to the offensive line.

Starting point is 00:11:54 So they're phenomenal. But when you talk about Joe Tooney and what he's been able to do, it's phenomenal. And for him to move out to tackle at being a 6-2 guard with shorter arms. But listen, a lot of the credit has to go to Andy. A lot of the credit, when you watch them, they are not putting him in drop back pass very many times. Chip, chip, chip, chip, chip, chip. They're running more RPOs than they've run all year in the playoffs.

Starting point is 00:12:16 And that is literally he can come off and run block. And then it's either a run or it's a pass. Most of you saw the big play to Juju Smith last week. And there's so many times that they're doing nakeds and rollouts, and then they're peeling the guard back and peeling the center back. So they're not putting them in bad situations. That's because Andy's such a smart coach.

Starting point is 00:12:33 Which is what you're supposed to do with your players. Let's go to the other side. Coach Sirianni, he's the one that I allegedly, if you listen to Stoutland, say, you know what, we need to put Tony, or I'm sorry, we need to put McKay Bekden, who has all the talent in the world, at six foot seven", let's try him out of guard and see if it works out.

Starting point is 00:12:49 It has. They've become the best offensive line in football. He's become a person that that team revolves around and he's like, I don't want to say banking on to have success, but yes, as opposed to a guy that got kicked out of town for not living up to the expectations of being a tackle. What a change in life for McKay Bekton. And allegedly that was Sirianni's kind of idea and then Stoutland's a perfect guy.

Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah, I heard Stoutland say that yesterday and I was like, wow, what a move by Sirianni because he's right. I mean, I heard Stoutland also say when you look at the history, six, seven guards don't usually work out. Like you need to be low man wins in the interior. You got to get underneath them. And when you have him, he's a brawler. And the one question mark coming into this season was that right guard position and he solidified it.

Starting point is 00:13:26 So he'll be there forever. And now will more six foot seven guys be guards? I think it's an anomaly, honestly. I mean, like, listen, at the end of the day, they're meant to be out of tack. What's hard to bend, especially if you're playing against an Aaron Donnell, to Grady Jarrett, some of these six one guys that can get up underneath you.

Starting point is 00:13:40 It doesn't matter how big you are, if you're tall and you don't play low, but he is so physical. So many of these big runs, he's climbing on a linebacker and just ejecting guys. Yeah, and you talked about Saquon yards before contact, which is certainly a compliment to the offensive line. We got some new stats from Hembo on Saquon.

Starting point is 00:13:56 His average touchdown length this year, 32 yards. What? Good Lord. That's absurd. 32, he's the only guy in NFL history. I don't know if we were able to get it up in time or not. Yeah, here it is. Only guy in history who has 20 plus touchdowns and the average length of the touchdown was more than 30 yards.

Starting point is 00:14:15 Now this includes playoffs, 32 and a half yards. And then the immediate thought is, well, you know, who steals it all? Yes. Bingo. Jalen Hurts takes the two yarders down there at the goal line So that then that isn't kind of offsetting the average 32 and a half yard average D butch. I mean that's insane. It's insane. It's part of it. I mean obviously is the office That's explosive Yeah, who has the second like is the second place like 12 yards a kid 29 1984 Mark Clayton 1984. They're playing good ball. Yeah. Playing good ball back in 1984. 1989 Jerry Rice and then Gail Sayers 27 yards. So I mean there has been

Starting point is 00:14:56 home run hitters I guess for 20 plus touchdowns throughout a season. But if you're scoring on a 32 and a half yard clip every single time that is must watch football I mean that is must watch football and that's old-school football because it's offensive line dependent upon now Saquon's different too. Let's not. Yeah his vision once he gets to the second and third level like angles safeties there 15 18 yards back he just outruns angles breaks tackles his home run speed is unbelievable just the total package that he has paired with this offensive line unstoppable. Well his DB's don't want to make that. Yeah they don't. No they don't. It speaks to Jalen too though you know kind of have to watch him like some of those middle backers

Starting point is 00:15:34 who just fly over the top for Saquon it's like well you kind of have to sit in the pocket a little and wait to see if Jalen's pulling that thing and taking it because he's had a few 40 yard touchdowns he started the playoffs this year with a 45 yard touchdown to kick off the entire thing. Yeah, Jaylen's special, isn't he? He's playing a lot better. Oh, jeez. I will say this, listen, he does...

Starting point is 00:15:54 Snip snap, snip snap. I think the most impressive thing that he's done since week five is not turn the ball over. He's been fantastic at that. He's leading the team. He's obviously running, doing what he's done. And he's throwing the shit out of the ball. I can't say anything else. Hey, let's talk about a awesome story that is in the middle of a terrible event. And this kind of popped across the news. Our Twitter feed, our algorithm showed us this, and we just wanted to

Starting point is 00:16:19 show love. 10-year-old Trey Howard was near where the plane went down in Philadelphia, obviously. Terrible tragedy. TZP's everybody involved in that situation. In the middle of that though, this dude right here laid and saved and protected his daughter as debris was falling after the plane crash. Dad explained it. It sounded like there was like a war happening with like metal things hitting cars and Trey here ended up with a piece of metal in his head okay when this whole thing happens goes to the

Starting point is 00:16:53 hospital everything happens and then he comes out of it on Monday I believe so they rushed him to the hospital he had to have emergency brain surgery he comes out of it on Monday he comes out of it and he asked he asked his dad what date it was his dad said it was Monday and he was like did I miss the Super Bowl? Did we play yesterday and he said no, you're fine We play next Monday and then his sexing his second question was did he did he save his sister which he did? Yeah, the dad said it was like the it was like the the shrapnel was like gunfire hitting his car And he took care of his other, his other children. The

Starting point is 00:17:25 10 year old jumped on his sister, like Tyrese Maxey, his favorite 76 or came and visited him in the hospital. It turned out being a great story for them. It's that's like, and you never know like what's going to happen, but as a 10 year old to go to protect your sister, just awesome dog. Sorry. We appreciate you. We assume he's going to be going to the super bowl. Yeah. If he could travel, yeah, if he could travel, he'll be going to the Super Bowl. But I think his relationship with the Philadelphia Eagles probably only beginning. Yes, because there's not I mean, just like to your point, you always hope that in the

Starting point is 00:17:55 moment of these situations, you would act that way. And I think there's even a show on ABC guys been hosted forever. Like, what would you do where candy camera where they set up situations and people can find out if in the moment of somebody getting robbed or somebody in front of you in it's own film, does the person act how you would hope that that person would act. You have no idea until a terrible situation pops up

Starting point is 00:18:15 how you're gonna do it. As a 10 year old, just to be like, I got it. Like, hey, you're gonna go on to do amazing things, brother. And we cannot wait to watch and know that what you're going through with the brain surgery and everything else is only gonna set you up to do it. And Trey, you're the things, brother. And we cannot wait to watch and know that what you're going through with the brain surgery and everything else is only going to set you up to do it. And Trey, you're the best, but we're lucky to be in the same world as you at the same time as you. And that's bad stuff. That dad's gotta be incredibly proud. Yes. Like Ed is my boy here. Like that is, you almost get emotional whenever you like think about the

Starting point is 00:18:41 amount of pride that that dad had to have. His dad said he was super like his dad said, you know, that's not his job. That's my job, but he did it in that moment. So yeah, he was very, Hey, that's dope. Yeah. Awesome. I liked, I liked that that happened, especially, you know, Philly. Yeah. Great. That's right. I think you're gonna win a Superbowl. Huh? I mean, they might, they certainly might. There's a chance. I mean it's again it's hard to bet against the Chiefs because it seems like for the last I don't know five years that's all they do is they win and they win close games.

Starting point is 00:19:13 It's kind of what I've thought the entire playoffs. If you're gonna beat the Chiefs you have to beat them. You can't give them an opportunity you know when late in the game for them to drive down and either kick a field goal like if they're gonna win this game I think they have to win by 10 to 13 points But the way they've been playing you know who knows and you know we talked about the Chiefs having a chip on their shoulder Sirianni's been you know had shit talked about him all year Same with Jalen like this this Eagle squad has a lot of chips on their shoulder as well. Yeah, I Think it's gonna be great game. Yeah, so flip-flopping. I think it's gonna be a great game. I think so. Flip-flopping.

Starting point is 00:19:45 I think we're, yeah, me too. I woke up this morning Eagles and I went to bed Chiefs, like I have no idea. So since the NFC Championship I've been on the Eagles, I'm like, they can do it. They can do it. Everything I believe is you gotta be tough. That is my entire belief in football. I think I don't care if it's 2025, I don't care if it's 2045, if football is still being played and it is tackled, I think you gotta have a tough team.

Starting point is 00:20:07 I just think that is, because how long the season is, how the sport is, everything it involves, I think you gotta be tough. And this is like, well, one of the toughest teams of all time. And it's like all Sirianni wanted is dogs. Yeah. We're built, kibbles and bits we're building. We are building a tough team that's, and they got it. And it's like Saquon was the piece that really ignited this entire thing to another level.

Starting point is 00:20:29 And Saquon is like very happy to be there and bought in, so he's a dog as well. Then, you know, you watch Travis Kelsey get pissed off, the people are talking about the refs and it's like hold the phone now. Now they got a little bit extra too. AJ's point is like, feels like Andy Reid and the boys are able to always win. And then you start looking at stats about Spagnolo, he's like, he's four times Super Bowl champion as a defense quarter for a reason. In the biggest moments, he does not get scared at all. He is emptying everything he has every single game

Starting point is 00:20:56 and his players love it and his players love him. And it's like, then you think about Andy Reid, he runs trick plays in the Super Bowl all the time. Like he actually just runs shit. So it's like, he you think about Andy Reid, he runs trick plays in the Super Bowl all the time. He actually just runs shit. So it's like, he's not scared of anything. And then Tobe, it's like, Buckeye's been here. He's a game winner. It's like, that team, how do you say

Starting point is 00:21:15 they're going to lose a game? I don't know how you say they're going to lose a game, especially Super Bowl. But then it's like, well, the Eagles are tougher. I don't know. Every day. Yeah, there's a stat, too. I saw it this morning, where it's

Starting point is 00:21:24 of the rematches in the Super Bowl between Quarterbacks the guy who won the first match is 4-0 in the second match the the quarterback, you know returning is never won So it's one of those things. Yeah, and then there's all the betting stats that contradict each other Yep, okay, this happens if this happens all 18 or out of the last 19 Yeah, and then on the complete opposite side last seven straight times this and it's like, well, that doesn't tell a shit. That doesn't tell us a damn thing. So I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:21:50 I think that's a good thing. Yeah, for sure. I think that's a good thing. Joining us now might be a guy who might be able to give us a little more information. His team's not here. His team had a season that I don't think anybody could have predicted.

Starting point is 00:22:02 Can't wait to get his kind of thoughts on it all. Ladies and gentlemen, four time All-Pro, absolute stallion out of BYU. Linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers, Fred Warner. Hey, Fred! Fred! Fred! Fred!

Starting point is 00:22:14 Fred! Fred! Fred! Fred! Fred! What's up, man? What up, man? Hey, you got it.

Starting point is 00:22:21 Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, you got it. Hey, at least stand up for him. Yeah, he has to play for the Patriots. So sorry, I don't care. The guy just walked four miles. Here you go, brother. Hey, I'm great. Hopefully, you didn't hear that. Yeah, is that all right?

Starting point is 00:22:34 That's wonderful. All right, we should probably get that on the other side so it doesn't go across your body there. That's 100% on me. We did not test that until right now. You're the first guest on. Hey, thank you for joining us. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. Okay, so tell us about your work with experience. So I think if I remember correctly sure from watching experience like hey They're auto paying the shit out of you right now, right? That's their thing Yes, and experience like we can figure it out for you. They're trying to save you time and money

Starting point is 00:22:59 Which is what we all want right? You download the app you can cancel your subscriptions that you don't use because everybody knows you. You get on a subscription, you forget about it, and you're over here just reoccurring payments every single month, every single year. So they help you do all that, they do all the work for you, and help you save time and money. I think that was pretty good promo there, buddy. Fantastic. How'd I do? That was pretty good.

Starting point is 00:23:19 Right on the field. Yeah, thank you. How many of these Experian interviews have you done? This is my first one. Crushed it. I don't know what the rest is gonna look like because you're gonna have to deliver with the same energy. Yeah right. It is a good message. Yeah. And I love it. I think in the world that we're in currently, especially if it's like $3.99. Oh yeah. Something's like $3.99. If something is the same price as an Express order on DoorDash, you're gonna take it and then you're never gonna see it again. And these companies are just living off of it.

Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah, it just slides under the radar for so long, but then it just accumulates, accumulates, and then it's like, damn, I'm out. I just spent $900 on something that I'm never gonna use in my life. We appreciate you joining us, and you talk about saving time and money. We're just gonna forget in the memory capsule last season. Fred, what? We? Did you guys know about Christian? No.

Starting point is 00:24:07 We had no idea, dude. We had no clue. I think whenever that popped up out of nowhere for us, they were like Achilles arthritis, I think. It pops up on both, on both. That came out of nowhere for us. For you, if it came out of nowhere, obviously that's incredibly startling, but what is the mindset going into the season?

Starting point is 00:24:24 And do you feel like that's just kind of what the season became? Yeah, I mean, it came out of nowhere for him, honestly. I feel like talking to him, I've talked to him throughout all the offseason since he's been here and he felt great. You know, we got married and was on cloud nine thinking that, all right, we're coming back to win a Super Bowl, coming off an offensive player of the year type of year last year. And so it was a shock to him, shock to us. He's one of our best players, if not the best. And so I'm excited for him going into this season to just get back healthy, right?

Starting point is 00:24:55 Get back out on the field. We need him. We need him in order to be successful. You saw it. And then obviously dealing with a bunch of other injuries this past season, we just got to wipe that. Put that away. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:04 That didn't happen. Save time and money in your brain. Save time and money. Man, save stress off of my back and just go ahead and eliminate that. OK, so it comes out of nowhere for him. It comes out of nowhere for you guys. And you said he's one of our best players,

Starting point is 00:25:16 if not our best player. The reason why it's not easy to say best player is because you guys have so many good players. Exactly. So many good players. Legitimately, that's why the season is. We're watching along. That had to be, I don't want to say excruciating, but that had to be a miserable time.

Starting point is 00:25:30 I just punter, okay, on team. Just punter on team. Whenever Peyton was quarterback and that whole crew was there, we went undefeated my first year. Wow. Until they chose to lose. Once again, I'm very small.

Starting point is 00:25:43 Then we went again. Then we went again. Then we went again. And then we go two in 14 and almost lose every single game. Life is miserable whenever you're losing. Then we get back to being good. And when Andrew gets there again, thank God, Andrew comes in there. But it's like when you're losing, life is terrible. You guys haven't experienced that much, right?

Starting point is 00:25:59 Exactly. It's different when you've only experienced losing, because that's the standard. Bingo. We've developed a standard of winning. We've been experienced losing because that's the standard. Bingo. We've developed a standard of winning. We've been to NFC championships year after year, two Super Bowls, obviously haven't surpassed the mountaintop to hoist that trophy, but we're so close, right? And so this was the season.

Starting point is 00:26:15 This was the one we were going to do it. And then all of a sudden everything falls into shambles and it's like, damn, I thought we were past this. Like my rookie year, I think we only won like six games. I thought we were past this, but... It's good for you though, maybe long run you be able to look back It humbles the hell out of you and you learn from it and then you grow from from it to be ultimately get back next year Yeah, we can't wait to watch you guys back AJ has a question. Yeah, first off. How's your ankle feeling?

Starting point is 00:26:36 I know you played the whole year on this fractured ankle How when did it happen? How did it happen? And how are you would actually play through it and have such an unbelievable year? Yeah, I appreciate it. It happened in week four against the Patriots. You know, it was a simple angle sprain that happened to pull the bone, you know, and it's just one of those nagging things because injuries, it's like, are they're either bad enough to keep you off the field or just good enough so you can keep playing. Right.

Starting point is 00:27:02 So it was one of those things where I was good enough to just keep playing and try to work through it. Did it get better as the year went or worse? I would imagine worse. Yeah, what are you doing? We doing needles? We doing acupuncture? Yeah, I won't get into the specifics but there was a lot behind the scene work to get you ready for the game. You're doing urine baths? You said what? What? Urine baths? Yeah. That's what you were doing? Yeah. I was not doing, I don't know, I mean, see, even though you're punning. Nah, I was good. I'm just saying, people, no stone left unturned, you know?

Starting point is 00:27:29 You're gonna pee in the bathtub for three weeks? How you gonna fill a bathtub with pee? You tell us. You can put the pee in. From what I heard, they go, just one foot in, and then one foot out, and then one foot in, and. Don't shake it, man. No, you ain't shaking it.

Starting point is 00:27:42 What are you shaking? You have to mist. Okay, good. I didn't do this. I'm just saying shaking. What are you shaking? The foot. Mist. Okay, good. I didn't do this. I'm just saying there is a lot of weird things people do to try to get back to being healthy. Sure.

Starting point is 00:27:50 We'll see what the hotel room is talking about tonight. I might try that out. What about those seats in the corner? We don't have to talk about it. But, so whenever we're talking about the angle, what was it? Did you do like, every day was trying to get that thing healthy, right? I mean, every day, you're trying to obviously get it to a good enough spot to then go out and perform It's your best on sunday. Hey, we appreciate your see this, but it's not just me man. That's what everybody does

Starting point is 00:28:12 It's the nfl not everybody listen You need to know that if that's happening with everybody in your locker room You need to be pumped and you need to bottle that sure because there's some places it's not happening I hear you daris has a question for you. you people coaches always talk about you know this game you know trying to make it just another game what was your experience like compared to your first Super Bowl to your second Super Bowl as far as the preparation and actually playing in the game like everything that leading up to it and actually when that moment is yeah I mean it was it was super helpful my first

Starting point is 00:28:40 time around having a guy like Richard Sherman who had been there one one and you know to pick his brain about how to how to approach the game. So I did I feel like I went to end of the game you know well prepared thinking about the game the right way had an interception in the game and late in the game thinking oh man I'm about to win Super Bowl MVP like we're gonna win we have about 10 points in the fourth quarter not a lot of time and then things unfolded how they did so then I learned from that experience like man you better not get too high on your horse before the clock hits triple zero.

Starting point is 00:29:08 And I felt like I'd carried that over into the second game, right, where I stayed even killed. But we had this situation with Dre Greenlaw when he tears his Achilles. Crazy. And it was just such an emotional dump. Like, it was, I mean, going in at halftime, seeing him, like, going through those emotions.

Starting point is 00:29:24 So it was just a lot. And then obviously, it was a long game, going in at halftime, seeing him, like going through those emotions. So it was just a lot. And then obviously it was a long game because you go into overtime and you have to try to be one of the best ever do it in overtime. And so it just didn't go our way. Yeah. On that digs has a question for you. Yeah. You talk about that overtime game last year and I was watching a little bit of it back yesterday and the Chiefs, they just do so much off of the same formation. And a lot of teams do that now, but the Chiefs do they just do so much off of the same formation. And a lot of teams do that now, but the Chiefs do it a ton. They do it a lot in the playoffs and it's a lot of Pat on the edge on short yardage. Like going back, do you, did you like your game plan last year?

Starting point is 00:29:54 And what do you think the Eagles game plan could or should be going into this one to just, you know, try to slow that chief's offense down? Yeah. I mean, I loved our game plan. I thought we came out hot. I mean, you got to remember if you go back a year ago in those play in that playoff last year we were getting a lot a lot of heat on defensively because the way we were playing the run game against the Packers against the Lions you know they were running through us right and so we were going in the Chiefs game with a huge chip on our shoulder because nobody gave us a chance

Starting point is 00:30:20 to halt you know Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs offense and so we came out humming, you know, and we were I felt like we played well for three and a half quarters, you know, until it wasn't. So that's that's the Super Bowl, man. You got to keep your head down and stay present in the moment all the way through to the very end until the clock hits triple zero. And ultimately to hoist that trophy at the end. Yeah, Patrick's special. He's all right.

Starting point is 00:30:44 It's crazy. It does feel like there's just some people that just have the end. Yeah, Patrick's special though, huh man? He's all right. Yeah. It's crazy. It does feel like there's just some people that just have like the it thing. Got the it, yeah. There's such thing as like having been there, done that, and being able to win the big game. And he's been able to do that obviously over and over again. Travis Kelsey, this guy.

Starting point is 00:30:57 It's pretty good. Why? Why is he so good, you think? Now obviously George Kittle, we are big fans of Top of Game, too. Like let's not just, we're not going to act like there's what Brock Bauer is seemingly about to go. Yeah, like there's a lot of incredible But Travis Kelsey for how long he's done it exactly everything he's done to playoffs. He's gonna go down goat conversation

Starting point is 00:31:12 For good reason by the way, Ohio guy, but what is it about him? He just runs his own shit They say there you go. I mean, it's honestly his mind. I don't know what he thinks about I don't know how he approaches the game but the savvy that he plays with is unlike any other tight end because when you go and you watch a tight end all week long and preparing for the guy, you're like, okay, he runs his corner out like he's going to run a corner route or he's going to run an in route.

Starting point is 00:31:33 With Travis, he's, he might have a corner route on, but he'll run a post, you know what I'm saying? Or he'll just kind of find some space and just sit down. And then you think you got him in coverage and then he just works away from you. And he's catching the hole. So he's like a hooper. He's a hooper.

Starting point is 00:31:44 That's where it really feels like he's a hooper. He's a hooper and he talk a little trash too so then he getting he getting in mind game too so it's like dang do I talk trash do I not talk trash so hey are you a trash talker? No I don't talk no trash man I just go out there I play the game baby. You said if Travis here this time you're about to send him a message. I was about to hear you're about to trash talk. Hey listen hopefully this is last season you know. He retired his fault goes off You said if Travis here this time, you're about to send him a message. I was about to hear you're about to trash talk. Hey, listen, hopefully it's his last season, you know. He retired, he goes off into the sunset and we ain't got to deal with him.

Starting point is 00:32:11 It's not. He said he's back three years, maybe four years, maybe five years. He just keeps going and going. Speaking of next season though, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Fred, a few years with different defensive coordinators, and now you guys are bringing back Bob Sala, who, you know, obviously he's running stadiums, He's doing all that cool shit. How do you feel about him coming back? And you think that is kind of like a consistency

Starting point is 00:32:30 that you'll get back in the building after having those years of different coaches? Yeah, super excited, man. I love Sala. Love everything about him. He was one of the few coaches that the draft process is horrible when, unless you're like the first overall pick, maybe, I don't know how it is for those guys in the first round they might get talked up but for

Starting point is 00:32:47 a guy like me who's trying to prove himself third rounder by the way I was a third round draft pick but I was I had a bunch of teams telling me like oh you can't do this you're not this you're not that and then I took my 30 visit with the Niners and I'm in there with coach saw and is obviously like man I really like your game like this is how I see you playing in our system and this is the first time I'm hearing these things so So I'm like, man, this guy goes solid. He's the best. And so they draft me and I'm super excited.

Starting point is 00:33:09 And then just had all the belief in the world to stay with me even through a rocky rookie season as a starter, you know, and see it through. But man, I love them. Happy to be back with them. You're conditioning seemingly better than everybody. You're all over the place. It is insane to watch you fly around.

Starting point is 00:33:26 So is that all year? Are you taking time off after season? What is the, how do you get to BU? Yeah, no, I mean, I'm on that treadmill tonight. As soon as I get back to the hotel, man, just getting back in, no, I'm just playing, bro. You gotta take some time away. You gotta take some time away,

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Starting point is 00:34:01 Because it's such a good product. Absolutely. And you're such a good representation of it. Thank you. Obviously time and money, you want to save that? You pay the money to Fred, and he'll speed things up. This dude never stops. No, he doesn't.

Starting point is 00:34:11 Hey, you're a maniac. I went to that, what was it, the Seahawks game. The Seahawks Niners game. And I went up in the booth with Kirk and Al, because we were doing game day somewhere. So it was just like, stop at the Seahawks game. Never been there before. I want to see what it is.

Starting point is 00:34:23 Bosa looks like a jungle cat. Yep. He literally takes up like an entire five yards somehow. That's 15 feet. I don't know how he... it's like holy shit this thing is much bigger in person than you could ever imagine. And then he is just a thousand miles an hour. And then you said you don't talk trash. You guys all talk trash. Now I'm thinking back your entire defense chirps. Yeah there's a little bit of an alter ego there, I'll say. You just lied though, you're like,

Starting point is 00:34:47 I literally just had to relive this. Cause the reason why, remember I came back and I was like, they're fast, they all talk shit. Everybody literally talks shit. You said Super Bowl immediately. Yeah, I said this is gonna be Super Bowl. But like, is that defense the same? Like Salah's gonna be able to come back

Starting point is 00:35:01 and you guys are just, have you been running the similar defense, same defense with the crew, because the people you have? Cause you have pillars on that defense seemingly everywhere that we see every single season Yeah, so is it the same defense? It's a similar scheme. Yes, you you got to continue to try to evolve obviously, so teams don't just pick up on what you're doing and just attack you but Similar scheme will make some some adjustments. So for sure NFC West is only getting tougher. That's right. Is it? It is. Yeah, I know. It's tough.

Starting point is 00:35:27 You guys were the Kings for a long time. Remember that? Oh yeah. I grew up kinda. This year, we still Kings. Don't worry. I know. I know.

Starting point is 00:35:34 You're a hater. Don't worry about that. Absolutely tied. Go ahead, Buc. What's your relationship like with Brock Purdy? Because we've been big fans of his and for the last several years, regardless of what he's done on the field, it's kind of been like, hey, this guy stinks. They have Christian McCaffrey, they have George Kittle, they have all these weapons.

Starting point is 00:35:49 And even last year, now everyone's saying like, hey, you can't pay this guy. The Niners can't pay this guy. They were in their window when he wasn't making anything. Have you noticed him kind of take more of a leadership role? Because everyone talks about how he's just quiet, kind of docile, played at Iowa State. What's your relationship like with him and have you noticed, like has he kind of taken that next step? Yeah, I mean anybody who listens to me knows that I love Brock Purdy. You know, I love everything about him, the way that he's made

Starting point is 00:36:12 up, the player that he is, his story. I mean that's my thing is like how can you hate on a guy when he has a story that he's had and the success that he's brought to our team as mystery relevant, last pick in the draft, right? Like I don't know of anybody else who's been the last pick in the draft and has been a starter, even a starter for a football team, nonetheless, a franchise quarterback, you know what I'm saying? And he took a huge leap this year in leadership, I think, just being in command of the, not only the offense,

Starting point is 00:36:36 but the team as well, you know? And so, I mean, he's been awesome, man. The sky's the limit for this kid. I can just go all day with him, but he's been amazing. What are you talking about here? John Deere tractors? What do you think in that picture right there? We were talking about the good old Bible right there.

Starting point is 00:36:52 Really? No, I don't know. I don't know. He is a man of God, man. Okay, how does that work? How does that work? Mormons verse non-Mormons. We got to get Kyle on.

Starting point is 00:37:03 We can have a full discussion about it. I am a master of respect to the Mormons, master of respect to all religions. Hey, listen can have a full discussion about it. I have massive respect for the Mormons, massive respect to all religions. Hey listen, somebody's gonna be right, can't wait. And hopefully it's the side that you were on, and all that. Legitimately, that's how I feel. And I have nothing but respect for the Mormons cuz Austin Colley, I think I've told this story before. Yeah, I know Austin.

Starting point is 00:37:20 Austin Colley and I got drafted in the same class even though he's 14 years older than me. That's right. Yes, I know how it goes. The entire thing, but he was married years older than me. That's right. You know. Yes, I know how it goes. The entire thing. But he was married, had a family.

Starting point is 00:37:28 He was awesome. And who was going to be the president? Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney was going to be the president. And I knew nothing about Mormons. I'd never met a Mormon. I'm from Pittsburgh and went to West Virginia. So I literally just, through one conditioning period with Austin Colley, 30 minutes, I'm

Starting point is 00:37:41 like, I just want to hear it. I just want to hear it. What do we all, and it's just like- He broke it down to you. Broke it down, yeah. Okay. But I do not, I just want to hear it. I just want to hear it. What are we all? And it's just like, okay. You broke it down, do you? Broke it down, yeah. Okay. But I do not know the ins and outs of it totally.

Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah. You and Brock Purdy. Nobody does. Well, that's a call. John, or Jason, John. Yeah. Joseph. Joseph Spann.

Starting point is 00:37:56 Joseph, Joseph. Austin obviously didn't do a great job. No, no, years ago, years ago. That's like the basic fundamental. Well, yeah, that's the bottom line. Yeah. That is how you get into this entire thing. Sure. Locker room though, everybody likes each other?

Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, absolutely. A lot of egos, a lot of superstars, right? Oh yeah. A lot of egos. No, no, no. Superstars. Too many some say. Yeah, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:38:15 We won't say that. You gotta have ego, alright, if you want to be the best in the game. There's gotta be a little bit of that. But inside a locker room, I feel like everybody's great, man. Everybody's homies, everybody, you know. You got cool dudes. Chop it up. Yeah, we got cool dudes all over. AJ has a feel like everybody's great, man. Everybody's homies, everybody. You know, chop it up. Yeah, we got cool dudes all over. AJ has a last question for you here, Fred.

Starting point is 00:38:29 What about John Lynch? How involved is he day to day? And do you guys and the rest of the players on your staff know how good of a player this dude was? Now, he was an absolute headhunter back there. When you could take dude's heads off at the safety position? Yeah, we wouldn't know unless Kyle Shanahan played clips of it in our team meetings.

Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah, there's been times, I don't know if it's off season, in season, where wouldn't know unless Kyle Shanahan played clips of it in our team meetings. Really? Yeah, you know, there's been times, I don't know if it's off season, in season where, you know, John might talk to the team and then we'll play a little clip of him. Oh, good. Back in the day, just be heading cats. He gets like an entrance video? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Entrance video.

Starting point is 00:38:58 Well, I mean, rightfully so. It's John Lynch. Yeah. And it's like crazy to even think like John Lynch is your GM. You know what I'm saying? But that just tells you everything you need to know about Who he's looking at to add to the roster and add to the team who what type of players that we want Because of how he played I also like to cow Shanahan's like hey just for you that are in the room That do not know what we're born in the 2000s now. It's like they don't even know

Starting point is 00:39:20 Why the film grainy you see this land looking white right here in this in this suit You see what's going on here? Let us remind you real quick. This guy is a man. He's in two Ring of Honors He's gold jacket. Yeah, Hall-famer Yeah, he's two Ring of Honors that like good enough career in two different places God, yeah, like yeah greatest of all time through the first pitch in the history of the Florida Marlins franchise as well Wow the Florida Marlins franchise as well. Bingo.

Starting point is 00:39:42 Wow. Yeah. We're toppling that one out. Hashtag, hashtag, stag that, stag that. You know what he's doing. Yeah, actually, you should drop that to John Lynch. In the negotiation process. Every year, you guys have some contract thing.

Starting point is 00:39:54 Yes. That's what happens when you have really good players. Because of every, yeah, everything we're talking about here. Right. How do you guys handle it? Like when somebody, there was a lot of those videos. Old buddy was just walking around practice.

Starting point is 00:40:03 Iuk. Iuk was walking around practice with a backpack? And we were this was the stories we were talking about What's gonna happen today with on the I you front cuz he was maybe gonna be a stealer He was maybe gonna be a patriot so he was in our world a lot And it felt like pretty big news to what was happening So whenever he's just showing up in practice, and then we're trying to guess what the conversations are Locker room is like hey you gotta do your business And as soon as he's back, all good.

Starting point is 00:40:25 That's it. That's how you guys view it. Yeah, it has to be, you know? I mean, because at the end of the day, like the whole business side, nobody knows outside of football, right? How that whole business side goes. It gets, you know, obviously both sides are competing

Starting point is 00:40:37 to see obviously I want the most versus I want to give you the least, right? And so it's like, at the end of the day, you got to come together in consensus to get something done that both sides can agree on. The players have nothing to do with that, that are not involved in the deal, you know? And that's their situation, let them handle that.

Starting point is 00:40:53 And then when he gets back, welcome to open arms and let's get to work. Okay, that's good. Cause I think we said that that's probably exactly how it went. But boy, whenever he was bopping around that practice, that was awesome. Yeah. That was an awesome day on the internet.

Starting point is 00:41:04 Yeah, he had to change his shorts at one point. Yeah, that was awesome. That was an awesome day on the internet. Yeah, he had to change his shorts at one point. That was awesome. There was so much drama from us. Outside looking in, especially with how the year was going. D-Bud has a question for you. I just want to ask, which way are you leaning? It's early in the week. I know you're more familiar with these teams than we are. Which way are you leaning if you are leaning a certain way? Yeah, no, I mean if they could both lose, then that's best result possible right I don't know I don't know man I mean there's something to be

Starting point is 00:41:30 said about having been there and done it but the Eagles are loaded I think it's gonna be a great game I don't know who's gonna win but it's gonna be a good one to watch. So when you play a team like the Eagles like with Saquon doing what he's doing do you think okay you're the right person to ask this question to, as I'm fully prepared to this entire interview on what I should ask you. Sure. We think run game becoming much more prevalent. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:54 It's like cyclical happening right in front of our eyes, right? Yeah, it's a cycle. Went through pass game, which I think you benefited from because you were fast, you could run side to side, so I think linebackers had to get smaller because they had to be able to take over. You call me small

Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah, that's what he did smaller Smaller all right. How much you weigh how much you weigh 235? Okay, Erlach was like 265 or something. Oh, yeah No, so like so it's been a dramatic change I think AJ was playing like 245 250 okay early on yeah Yeah, so it was big you had to be big cuz you're hitting hitting hitting You go more running these then it got spread out you got to be able to run for sure now There's teams that are trying to take advantage of maybe the size of that. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:42:27 And run games coming back? Yes. You guys can feel that in your game planning week to week and everything like that? Yeah. I mean, I think for forever and time, the run game's got to be there in order to open up the pass game for that to be effective.

Starting point is 00:42:36 You have to have an effective run game. And I know for a fact that our offense, you know, Courtney and I, for as long as I've been here, I've heard Coach Shannon talk about how important the run game is. So I mean, it is cyclical though. You know, I think it is a matter of smaller guys playing out there on defense.

Starting point is 00:42:51 You want to take advantage of that. So then you get bigger guys and then you spread it out a little bit more. So it's just going to continue to just go around in a circle. You an NBA fan? A little bit, you know, but I saw the news, Luca. Yeah. You're a huge fan.

Starting point is 00:43:05 Of? I see the basketball at your feet. No, it's because there's a hoop over here. You want to try to give away some money? Give away some money? Yeah. Sure. All right.

Starting point is 00:43:14 You'll get a chance to shoot. All right. I might make myself look a little silly right here, but I don't mind. Bad balls. Oh, no. Very true. Too light? Yeah, it's too light.

Starting point is 00:43:23 Way too light. I think you're going to. How about you give a shot? Yeah, it's too light. Way too light. How about you give a shot? No, your granny shot. No, give a shot. No, your granny shot. You have four opportunities. Four opportunities?

Starting point is 00:43:31 I can't just do a regular shot from right here? Watch out for the light. You can do whatever the hell you want. Watch out for the light. I think that's going to be a tough one. Line drive it. Liner. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:39 I think what you are attempting to do right now is going to be very difficult. You got it. Is that boat really? It's Fred Warner. It's Fred Warner. Liner. Buckets. Okay, okay. It's light, it's light, it's light, it's light.

Starting point is 00:43:51 Okay, all right, Fred. If you're able, Fred. If you're able to make this shot right here. Yeah. Okay? We will give 30 people $500. Woo! Wow!

Starting point is 00:44:01 To repost this video, say something nice to somebody. Okay. And put the easiest way to pay them. Shout to Fred and Experian if that happens. This is on the X account, the platform formerly known as Twitter. Okay, good. Fred, you do a lot of social?

Starting point is 00:44:17 I'm not big on the socials, no. You dance on TikTok? No, I don't do the TikToks. You do your dancing? Here we go. 30 people. 30 people! Oh yeah! Oh! Oh! Oh! You got rocked. Huh? No, I don't do the TikToks. You do your dances? Here we go. Good American. Here we go. 30 people. 30 people!

Starting point is 00:44:25 Oh yeah! Oh! Oh! You got rocked. Right. What? There's no weight in the ball. Oh!

Starting point is 00:44:31 That was going in. That hit the... That was close. Oh my goodness gracious. Alright Fred, here's the thing. Let's double it. Come on. Whoa.

Starting point is 00:44:39 Alright Fred. From experience. Fred, we'll match. This is all part of the plan right here. Shout out to experience. Ladies and gentlemen, shout out to experience. You wanna say time and money. Download the experience app today.

Starting point is 00:44:49 Shout out to Fred Warner delivering that message. Come on, come on. Fred, if you make that ball into that hoop right over there. Yeah. We'll give 50 people 500. Wow. All they'll have to do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody,

Starting point is 00:45:00 and put the easiest way to pay them on X. Okay. And if you make it, I think they'll say, wow, Fred Warner's a hero. Yeah. I think they'll say, wow, Fred Warren's a hero. Yeah. I think they'll say, wow, Experian is such a good ad. Wow. Experian is cool.

Starting point is 00:45:11 How convenient is that? Not only did I win $500, I saved $500 from Experian. Wow. Wow. That's what you could do for 50 people who win $500. Fred. Everybody got their cameras out for this right here? There is a big camera on you right now. Oh

Starting point is 00:45:25 Oh You got to jacked up you to jacked up Four tries though, it's the same same deal Run the tape bag run the tape bag.. That's not how this goes. Run the tape, man. No, I agree, I agree, but you're saying same deal. We'll jack it up a little bit more. Yeah, shot three. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Starting point is 00:45:51 That's experience. You're not worse. Save time and money. You're right, you're right. You gotta spend money to save money. Yeah, well not with experience. All you gotta do is download the app. No, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:46:01 All you gotta do is download the app. That's it, just download the app. I mean, you good. Ladies and gentlemen, if four-time All-Pro linebacker Fred Warner from the San Francisco Download the app. Download the app. That's it. Just download the app. Ladies and gentlemen, four time all pro linebacker, Fred Warner from the San Francisco 49ers, here with our friends at Experian. What a great app. Great.

Starting point is 00:46:15 Great commercial too, honestly. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Made me want to go get it. I already have it. I got the boost too. Experian boost. What?

Starting point is 00:46:23 Wow. Yeah, your credit score. Quick boost instantly. Boop. Also my. Also, my credit file is locked so nobody can steal my eye. Yeah, I got the phone out. Yeah, it's already on. Fred, if you're able to make this shot for the good people and experience 100 people in. What? Holy shite. Here on our first day down on Radio Row. Fred, you could be a hero to 100 people. Wow. Wow, 100 people.

Starting point is 00:46:52 This was all part of the plan, by the way. I've been missing on purpose to try to get you to do this. Oh, you said, let me throw this one through the backboard on the last one. That's exactly right. Because you knew something bigger was coming. 100 people, $500. Shout out to experience, saving you time and money. We got gotta get you on a commercial by the way. No thank you. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhners and losers. Fred, if you were to shoot one more time,

Starting point is 00:47:26 do you think you would make it? The shots are over with. You're done with it. I mean, I'll do it again. But you know. Do you think you would make it, though? I think you will. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:47:35 You need to go to the next one. Absolutely. Yeah, OK. You've got to splash it. You've got to splash because then you've got to rip him. This was the plan. You've got to bank it in. This was the plan all along.

Starting point is 00:47:42 The plan was to build, a little bit of hype, a little bit of excitement. Right in your was to build a little bit of hype a little bit of excitement You're shooting pocket a little bit of a little bit of wonder Fred Warner four-time all-pro gonna be able to bury a basketball shot here down at radio row for Super Bowl 59 If he is able to do it very light ball That ball is tough to control slick. He's very slick. Just one gusto through here and that thing would be blown off course To be fair there are jingle bells on the rim Mostly because I can't shoot but all the other factors, you know what you can do

Starting point is 00:48:20 You can spread a great message on saving time and money. That's right. And that's what I learned today. Thank you for revisiting the worst year since your rookie year. Thank you. With us today. I know that's not funny. 2020 wasn't good either but... As you were giving answers... For anybody. Not just you, man. 2020, yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was all of us. Don't remember forever but yeah, yeah. You're 100% right. Yeah, Fred. Yeah. 2020 was a tough one. Yeah, that was... Thanks, thanks, Fred. Yeah, Dwight Dwight was a tough one. Thanks, thanks. What do you think? That's a good call.

Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah, I guess football wise. Football wasn't too bad. It wasn't too good either, but the actual. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thanks, brother. Hopefully we get a chance to catch up soon. And we all know next year's gonna be much different than this past year for the Niners.

Starting point is 00:49:01 And we're sorry you had to go through that, but the sun is brightest. Before the darkest dawn. After the darkest dawn. Well, you get it. And before the darkest dawn. Yeah, you never know. You got the main part in there.

Starting point is 00:49:13 It works both ways though. Bulldower. Well, the thing about it is I think it gets, the reason why is because you've experienced the darkest. Sure. So now anything would be the brightest. Practicality though, what if it's a cloudy day? Never, yeah, you're right.

Starting point is 00:49:24 It's cloudy outside today. Red sky good morning, you know sailor take warning Red sky at night say it was like we know it all I we know that you know ball Ladies and gentlemen Fred Warner Yeah, that was shit That was shit. It was tough. 2020 years was tough. 2020 years wasn't wrong. 2020 wasn't good.

Starting point is 00:49:50 Coming to New England. We needed that reminder too. Think about it. Think about it. Fred was cool. See you later Fred. Alright Fred. Work on that job. Same time and money Fred. With experience. Careful with that rope. That's really good work

Starting point is 00:50:06 Thank you. Shipley will rejoin us out here. I Think I think experience gonna be pumped today. They got a good at selling the product like he honestly like I understand why they hired Him, you know, have I ever met a Mormon that isn't good at talking. No Good question. I just learned a lot about the Mormons in American primeval. Oh, yeah. Some bad people. Yeah. Just throwing that out there.

Starting point is 00:50:31 They killed a lot of people. Some of them are some bad people. I think religion kills a lot of people. They killed a lot of people. Joe Smith was a bit of a savage. Really? On the battlefield. I did not know anything. That is what American primeval was? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're a bit of a savage. Really? On the battlefield. I did not know anything.

Starting point is 00:50:45 That is what American From Evil was? Yeah. Oh yeah, they're a big part of. They were a gang. And not a good one. Okay. Cause there is good gangs. Yeah. Of course.

Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah, there is. The Teamsters. Okay. All right. What are we talking about? Welcome back, AQ. Sharon B. Alan Quay.

Starting point is 00:51:02 What's up, boys? Hey, that was great. I thought so too. What'd you take away from it? Anything when you were listening in the back? What do you think people watching at home are like, ooh. Alan Clay. What's up, boys? Tread was great. I thought so, too. What'd you take away from it? Anything when you were listening in the back? What do you think people watching at home are like, ooh, fascinating there. They didn't know about Christian McCaffrey.

Starting point is 00:51:11 I think that's a big deal. Well, he doubled down on, you know, it works in cycles. I think that's coming. I don't know when it's coming. But the big boys are coming back. You think? Yeah, I think everybody's starting to run the shit out of the ball.

Starting point is 00:51:21 It's going to happen in the next five years. We got to start getting bigger. Well, and I think it's going to be with the modern athlete, you know, every combine, there's a new fastest human. Every combine, there's a new biggest guy to jump that high. So I think we're going to be able to have the size to stop the run game. And I think there's going to be guys that can still fly.

Starting point is 00:51:38 Like I think this linebacker position is going to be awesome to watch going forward, especially if they're going to have to thud. You got to be able to do it all. Now you definitely, you used to be able to get away with being like, you know, in the box backer every once in a while. Now there's no like purely in the box backer. I'm just going like B gap to B gap.

Starting point is 00:51:54 You got to be able to do everything. I think you're still going to have to, even though the big boys are coming back. But they're just looking for matchups. Hey, if you're trying to play nickel against us all day, we're going to put some big dudes in. We're going to overpower you. They just want to get matchups. That's very, D trying to play nickel against us all day, we're gonna put some big dudes in We're gonna overpower you think they just want to know they want to get matchups

Starting point is 00:52:06 That's very Darius. You weren't scared to tackle, you know, I saw your your body lifeless on a couple fields and Was not Right, that's a good teammate Take this man off the field right. That's a good teammate. Shout out Ewell. Shout out Ewell, yes. But DBs are going to have to, I mean that's going to become more and more and more and more. Not that, you know, DBs. There's corners, there's outliers. I think I'll watch through like NFL films to show me something. And it'll be like, like Deion will go make a hit. But we're not looking to do that every single day. Dude, no, no. That is not the thought. There's going to become times now where the nickel is going to be expected to make a tackle on a very high percentage of plays Oh, yeah nickels are starters now and when you come in as a nickel back you're replacing a backer and the best run teams on offense

Starting point is 00:52:51 They force the guys on the edge to make tackles, you know, they're crack block. The best teams have good blocking Receivers so they'll go and block a safety and just leave that corner back unaccounted for you can see the cycles with the numbers Of carries like last year I don't think it was one back that had 300 carries. And this year we had five or six, all the guys that move around got paid. They did well in their new spot. So yeah, guys get drafted higher in the position again.

Starting point is 00:53:11 Gibbs, you see what he's been able to do. So yeah, it's definitely coming back around. I think so too. And what was the stat, Hembo? So it's like 715 rush attempts, 519 pass attempts for the Philadelphia Eagles. They are very much a run heavy offense. And they happen to have the best offense line

Starting point is 00:53:26 in the game. Well, I think too, just to piggyback off what DB says, right? Like I think there's so much speed on the outside that it forces teams into too high. When it's too high, we're hammering the run all game. And then once you start hammering the run game all game long, now safety is down in the box and then we throw it. I'm impressed with Kelly Mo being disciplined, sticking with the run game. Especially because that was not the story about Kelly Moe.

Starting point is 00:53:47 I know Kelly Moe. He wants to run for scoreboard. He's trying to get a head coaching job. I've been there before. You take care of the program. You take care of the football. Jalen Hurts, seven postseason games, no interceptions. So you take care of that football and play good defense,

Starting point is 00:54:01 usually good recipe. On that note, with Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes and the run game. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for a P towns battle. Yesterday we talked about a player on each team to get a catch on their first drive. We love the tight ends. We talked about Goddard. We talked about Kelsey. We talked about the other history was there. Today's bet is going to be about the fourth quarter and the quarterback rushing yards. Patrick Mahomes over under fourth quarter rushing yards, four and a half Jalen hurts over under six and a half in the fourth quarter. There are so many ways. Yes. Over deals like scary though. You never know. That is the one way to lose this because we've seen it.

Starting point is 00:54:47 They take the Neil, especially if there's too much time in a clock and they're trying to waste time and they got to go back 10 years or 10 yards or whatever. But both these guys, like we've seen my homes in the fourth quarter, a thousand times, whether it's a pass play and he's flushed out and he runs for a forced down way over. Or I talked about it with, with Fred third, third or one fourth of one, they are always putting Patrick on the edge run pass option. He is easily getting the four and a half there and Jalen different, a little bit different. He will take off and run in the pass gate, but they, I mean, there could be, he could have three or four like scheduled called runs. Hey, how do you feel about that? I didn't even think about that picks it up by itself.

Starting point is 00:55:22 The, the reason why that was the bad of better the day I think is because when turn presented it we all said that seems too easy Yeah, doesn't that feel too 100%? Yeah, he's gonna. He's gonna break some contain and Tight rope the sidelines and they're not gonna hit him. He might get it just on the extra four yards He gets on the tight rope that he takes advantage of the rules Well, even my homes last time they played the Eagles he had the ankle and that was the story He got tackled in the second quarter first quarter was super injured and it was like, okay So my homes can't move and then on their game-winning drive He escaped for like 25 yards at the middle of the field because they weren't watching him and that would be easy over also

Starting point is 00:55:56 It's a Super Bowl. So fourth quarter. Let's assume both these guys are gonna do anything they possibly can Yeah, and there was scrambling for their life either catch up or to extend the clock I mean, it's just like he's getting flushed naturally to fillies into your D line Like he's gonna get flushed a little bit and have to run. Hey, that was AP towns Well, they probably change the odds on it minus 110 for that seemingly now we all feel yeah good odds And now remember we did have a parlay a couple years years back where all we needed was Batch McHomes to throw for like 220 yards or something. He had like three touchdowns and somehow only threw for a hundred and like 70 or so. Yeah. Yeah. Burrow the year before. Yeah. So everything always looks obvious. It does. Which is why we're

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Starting point is 00:57:21 It is wonderful. It's a celebration this week down here in New Orleans. I think it is every week, most weeks down here, but this week we're celebrating ball in everybody that talks about sports has come to this wonderful town that's known for hosting people and having a good time. We'll be trying to do as such while chit chatting with people we don't get to talk to all year because everybody's here. Now the bathroom is about 70 yards that way so

Starting point is 00:57:45 as soon as that clock struck 57 and we went to a break there is a full home alone at the airport sprint to the bathroom over here almost didn't make it back but I'll tell you this place is beautiful and it's certainly filling up we're lucky to be here. Trey Hendrickson will join us in about 10 minutes from the Cincinnati Bengals. He knows, he knows this area very well. Can I wait to chitchat with him? The toxic tables here at boss Connor and at Tye Schmidt, sweet shirt con man. Yeah. Thank you very much. I actually screwed up the order on it. It shouldn't have been all black. Of course, slop them up sloppy stakes. We all know what we're doing here. I can't wait to slop them

Starting point is 00:58:22 up later on too with you fellas. But this is nice. I've been waiting to break this one out. It's a good little shirt. Looks very professional. You look like you're dressed up in the hair. A lot of people commenting, really bringing your A game at Super Bowl. Yeah, I figured this is the year.

Starting point is 00:58:35 Hey, let's stop screwing around. We're growing up. This isn't our first rodeo. I might as well act like it for a while. We've been here a lot. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It is wild, because although this like you know we've only been on ESPN now last two years two

Starting point is 00:58:47 seasons here we've been coming here a long time long time and we never understood why you spend income here. No I legitimately never still don't still still don't get it still still don't fully understand about that because

Starting point is 00:58:58 you can really feel it. Yeah. And everybody in here loves the game everybody loves sport or at least covers the game and loves the sport. And it's there's an actual palpable buzz. It's like it feels like Super Bowl week It does like while the show has gone on I've been like thinking to myself

Starting point is 00:59:13 Yeah, it's Super Bowl. You know it's almost like I don't want to say I was kind of forgetting about that But then as it was going it's like man, Jake laser just walk by I mean, it's just like the amount of people that are walking by, it's like we're in the game now. And shout out to New Orleans for being the host, and shout out to the football community coming together to celebrate a hell of a season. Yeah, without a doubt.

Starting point is 00:59:35 And like you said, if we were at some restaurant or some beer garden, you're not getting that. You're not getting Glaze walking by and just everybody on the set. You know what I mean? Is it a little distracting? Sure. Because you see Jay Glazer walking by and just everybody on the set, you know, I mean, is it a little distracting? Sure. Cause you know, you see Jay Glazer, your eyes go right to him. Well, that's the thing. I was talking to Fred here and then literally everybody in the back head turned that way. And, uh, okay. So my, I still didn't to this moment, I had no idea

Starting point is 01:00:00 who it was because I didn't want to disrespect Fred, but I couldn't wait to hear who was potentially walking by because it could be anybody. Exactly. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone is here. Just gave out his bet of the day. The over under on quarterback rush yards in the fourth quarter, seemingly lower than we would expect for both of these quarterbacks.

Starting point is 01:00:17 I like that we're giving those out. Maybe a little, Hey, something to think about. We got plenty. I mean, there are thousands and thousands of bets for the super bowl. It is the greatest spectacle of all time as far as the betting world is concerned So we'll have more tomorrow more the day afterwards. What's the national anthem time? Do we know? so, you know since Sports betting has moved to

Starting point is 01:00:36 Not offshore and legal they don't really do that anymore. That's bull I don't even know who's singing it You got to pay attention who did it at the Royal Rumble that lady? I don't know but it was the over incredible It was good. It was good. It was good Good Lord. Yeah, I get it. It was long. There's one thing. You don't remix. Okay, and that's national She was giving herself ten seconds in between words. Beautiful voice. She was breathing because she wanted to make sure she hit it properly.

Starting point is 01:01:08 Absolutely beautiful voice. It was long. It was a long one though. Very long. I actually got 120 seconds allegedly is what Chat is saying at the moment for the national anthem. But as I was sitting there, I kind of got emotional for a second because it was like Lucasfilm Stadium, you know, and you're like doing it and the place is

Starting point is 01:01:25 packed out and it's like oh shit, this is It's pretty cool little thing here. Yeah, for my life. This is pretty cool So I started like getting a little emotional and I'm staring at that window and I'm like I fucking hate that Like that window was my That's my enemy there Right is when that window was open that thing was a wind tunnel and my life was worse than everybody else's on the field, whenever that happened. So I hated that thing. So literally as I was standing there, I was like, you know, talking shit to the window, I want to see you again, you know, and then look over at the jumbotrons

Starting point is 01:01:55 in there. Then I'm having a moment, I'm like, it's pretty cool, Luke's all standing, feel like this is a good moment that, you know, I should take in. It's a pretty cool thing. And then all of a sudden I'm like, where are we? She was two, she was two sentences in. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's it. We were 15 second pauses. I mean, I looked at Cole at one point, holy shit, the bears here. But I looked at Cole at one point.

Starting point is 01:02:13 I think we were both like, we got a long way to go here. What's going on? But it was great. She nailed every note. She did. She nailed every single note. So it was great performance, but it was long. I agree.

Starting point is 01:02:22 Nine year NFL vet, Daris J. Butler. She's looking incredibly good. Sir. Appreciate that. Super Bowl champion, college football Bowl champion college football national champion AJ Hawk is here 12 year NFL vet Super Bowl champion a q shiples here and Ladies and gentlemen a man who works for Fox now Used to work for ESPN and for game day He goes by a professional name now, I believe. He does. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Chris Felica, also known as Bear.

Starting point is 01:02:50 Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear.

Starting point is 01:02:58 Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Biggest season, longest season of all time. You've been around college for so, so long. Your thoughts on it?

Starting point is 01:03:06 I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I was not pro expansion, but it was pretty cool to have that many games and keep that many fan bases interest in it. Now the weight between the games, that's another story, but I love it. You want them to see it, you want to change the seating, I assume.

Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah, the seating was a joke. You should just do it one through 12 one through one two three four get buys And we go from there. How do you feel about how cold that damn those games were that was awesome? Yeah, but if they move it to like a lot of us for pitching there needs to be another round of home field games Yes, no, we Honestly, I don't know and maybe this winter was different maybe this winter was colder I think you know, I mean the NFL does it every maybe this winter was different. Maybe this winter was colder I think it was I mean NFL does it every year this winter was cold as shit Yeah, and the NFL does do it you guys look very comfortable in Columbus that night

Starting point is 01:03:54 Shit I bet I was sitting on my count like I was like disappoint like I wish we were doing Big news doing a show there and I'm like, nah, actually I don't my couch But that was a part of the conversation in like you know how the conversation goes around SEC bias you know SEC bias SEC bias there's a lot of that that happens okay. Well ESPN is the SEC bias. Do you guys get that? Do they say that about you guys? Oh absolutely. Okay so everybody gets attacked for that because it is attackable okay that makes sense that helps me out a little bit more but the conversation was like in the SEC,

Starting point is 01:04:26 you gotta play these big ones every single week. That's what the SEC coaches say. Nick says it, Kirby says it, Lane Kiffin says it. Everybody says it. What the North never said back is every week late in the season, we gotta play in freezing cold temperatures. So we can't be built as fast.

Starting point is 01:04:42 We gotta be built a little bit more physical. And that cold weather being an equalizer Yep, I think was big for college football. It was awesome. Especially with how it was like the coldest It was like the North showed up to is like Miserable as possible the North remembers we're going Game of Thrones there. Well, how did yeah, how'd you feel about Will Howard? Awesome. That was great But that's what the that was the best part about the portal is like seeing a guy like Will Howard go somewhere Do well, Indiana like those season that they had bringing all these guys and revamping their team with Vandy

Starting point is 01:05:12 Yeah, but but Howard was was a guy earlier in the year. It was like who's this the guy had a terrible game Against Michigan like can it can actually do this but uh, he was great and that throw to Jeremiah was ridiculous but. Third and 11 baby. Unbelievable. Chip Kelly's last call basically. How about that? How about Chip? Back to the NFL. Like it or don't like it? Good for him. He got his college redemption, won his ring, won his chip with the with the Buckeyes. They maybe can go out to the Raiders there with Pete and McPlaus. And life is good as an offense coordinator as we know. Yes it is. Hey Bear, we miss you brother, good to see you.

Starting point is 01:05:47 Tony, you have any questions for Bear? Yeah, we have to ask the Bear. Do you have a favorite bet for the Super Bowl? I play an under 49. I don't think it's as high scoring as people think. I think we had long time consuming drives and I don't think we're seeing both teams in the 30, under 49. As we chit chat about how we felt about the fourth quarter rushing yards. I'm excited to get his answer because how we all feel

Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah, yeah, so we all feel one way. Yes. So that would normally mean how do you feel about this particular prop? fourth quarter rush yards for the quarterbacks Jalen hurts is like Six and a six and a half yards in the fourth quarter Patrick Mahomes four and a half yards in the fourth quarter. Patrick Mahomes four and a half yards in the fourth quarter. Obviously the kneel down is a thing. Right. Exactly. We all love the over though. We all love the over for how these offenses operate and what this season has been. How do you feel? Have you thought about that? Have you heard about that? And what is your immediate reaction? I got burned on Mahomes over against the Niners in 2020.

Starting point is 01:06:41 We were all negative seven, negative, and that cost me by that. But I like that because I think, if you probably, I'm gonna factor in, that's one of the things I like Mahomes, his first carry over four and a half yards, because I think you're gonna see pressure. The one thing that the defense can't contain and prepare for is, Mahal, everyone's covered,

Starting point is 01:07:00 gain his seven, first down, move the six. But I like- He looked quick there, didn't he, man? Very quick. Yeah, he looked quick. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, any bear very quick yeah I like that in the fourth quarter as well because you figure these teams are gonna be third and third and five pass rush everyone cover takeoff first down I'd go I'd go over on both of those okay all right bear all right I appreciate you Chris good luck love you bear love you bear

Starting point is 01:07:22 bears man like a dancing bear there, did you see him? Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. He has so much knowledge on everything. He really does, yeah. That was kind of the thing at game day. I didn't get a chance to experience it,

Starting point is 01:07:32 you know, cause he was on his way out, basically as I was coming in. So we got like one year together. Just, you fire something over at him. And it's just like a Rolodex actually opening in his brain. Like the way his eyes are just like a Rolodex actually opening in his brain like the way his eyes are just like, yeah, go through the pages, calculating, search through here and boom. Yes, it was Jack. It was. Yes, it was. Yeah, the kid from

Starting point is 01:07:55 Ohio, yes, he's from Ohio, yeah, five-star, like you see him like unraveling things like more information. It's like special guy guy special talent I mean I I love my time with bear hilarious human being and the other guys not half bad he loves Stanford Steve hey he's locker room guy oh yeah Stanford Steve speaking of a Q shipley here ladies and gentlemen all right Q what have we not talked about enough you think in the sports world Luca Donchik being the dumbest thing that has ever happened. Do you think- Crazy. You're an NBA guy. Big NBA guy.

Starting point is 01:08:30 People forget high school basketball hall of famer. That's right. Okay. And you used to dunk on that big guy? Nate Hartung. There it is. Well, he didn't dunk on Hartung. Hartung dunked on him.

Starting point is 01:08:39 Yeah. And the toughness you see from him is because- Hartung's still bringing it, right? Yeah, he's still bringing it. Still bringing it. Yeah. Thought I saw him in the G League. No, Eddenborough. BYU guy. For sure. you see from him is because yeah still bring it still bring it oh yeah someone g-league no and why you got he's a very bro he wants to be why you think for like a couple coffee there it is yeah okay so Luca Donchik yeah gets traded out of Dallas we've talked about this numerous times off air as well I'm

Starting point is 01:09:03 trying my best not to be like I hate the Dallas Mavericks. Okay like I'm trying my best not to. Luca has become maybe other than Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers okay because I love that squad TJ McConnell, Spicy Peanut Boys love them okay good people too. Been great in Indianapolis we appreciate the hell out of them. It's all of a sudden like Luca's big baby face in my eyes. Oh yeah. it's like Luca put this place in his organization on his back from what we're watching from what matters on the court Oh, yeah, what the actual business is what the actual thing is all the way to the finals and then a couple people in the building We don't like the way this guy goes about doing what he's doing We want and they just run his ass out of town pretty much

Starting point is 01:09:40 That's crazy to happen to a star in the NBA But I guess it should kind of reframe our idea happen to a star in the NBA, but I guess it should kind of reframe our idea that all the stars run the NBA. Sure. You know, maybe it's not like that. Maybe it is. Maybe it does have some NFL in it where people will have pettiness or think that they're super geniuses getting away with decisions. I mean it's, it was a wild move. What are your thoughts on it? I mean he's 25 years old and he's a top three player in the NBA, right? I mean at the end of the day and his prime and you just let him walk out of the building you don't let good

Starting point is 01:10:06 you don't want walk you actually yeah kick his ass out boom get out yeah you just don't let that happen you just don't I mean it's when you got good players and you got good people keep them in your bill it's so crazy that like there's rumors of the honest being traded now and like normally you'd be like well that's definitely not happening but now this year you're like maybe it will I only know if Shams tweets it they go what did he get off the call for he got off the call for some other schlub gotta go out of Dallas he had a big one today though what are you talking about sure these guys are

Starting point is 01:10:37 in the NBA he's fantastic player but when you go from Luca to a guy who isn't Luca it is gonna be a schlub but the Milwaukee Bucks did trade for Kyle Kuzma today. They moved Chris Middleton. Yeah, that was the big one this morning, which is kind of a massive trade, but also Kyle Kuzma. Who knows? Washington Wizards were looking into Kevin Durant potentially.

Starting point is 01:10:56 That's right. Oh, Pac's here. Smell me, Pac. Pac-Man Jones shows here. Smell me? Pac, what are you doing? Are you live down here? Yeah, I'm live.

Starting point is 01:11:04 Pac-Man Jones show? No, not live on the show. Just's for me. Pac, what are you doing? Are you live down here? Yeah, I'm live. Pac-Man Jones show? Oh, no. Not live on the show. Just making my rounds. Okay. Hey, how is great season out of you? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:12 Proud of you, buddy. Oh, yeah. Proud of you, man. Proud of you, dude. Good year, good interviews. How'd you get into flow? Did you enjoy the season as a whole? Yeah, I did.

Starting point is 01:11:20 It took me a little time to find my groove, but I found my groove. Enjoyed talking shit, watching you guys, stealing a lot of things find my groove, but found my groove, enjoyed talking shit, watching you guys, stealing a lot of things from y'all. Hey, it's all right. That's how I feelin', man. Come on, let's send my brother over there, man. I like the hair. Hey, look at your jacket, man.

Starting point is 01:11:32 That thing looks sick. So cool, dude. You know, everybody can't wear what I wear. Yeah, I know, any day. I could not wear any of it, but I like two mics on you, smell me. I mean, you are rolling. Co-host here.

Starting point is 01:11:43 Hey, what's up, Pat? Dude, how you doing? So you're originally for I looked it I looked it up a little bit originally from TMZ now working with pack. Yes, sir. You guys are great creating He became inside Pack became an insider you guys started breaking news Are you excited to be in the sports world with pack fired up about it nice. It's a rocket ship, man We're having a blast. Okay, so how often are we recorded?

Starting point is 01:12:05 Twice a week. Let's go How's family? Family's great. They running around here. Hey, what's up? Tish good to see you. Good boys are doing good. Yeah. Hey a lot of conversation around West Virginia right now Hey, I think we're gonna have a quarterback that's able to throw so maybe you know there's a wide receiver. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Source this.

Starting point is 01:12:30 How has it been going though? It's going good man. I would say 95% healthy now coming back off the knee injury. I don't know, it's going to be interesting where he picked to go. We're talking about Chris Henry Jr. here obviously, baby boy of Slim who has been in the Pac-Man Jones residence and house since then. Whenever you think about West Virginia bringing Rich Rod back, I know we've talked about this obviously off air.

Starting point is 01:12:59 We're back, I think. I think West Virginia's back. We're back. It might take us a little bit, but we're back. We started with the quarterback, we got a quarterback. So yeah, I'm pretty eager that we're winning over six and a half games. I like that. I think that's where we're starting.

Starting point is 01:13:11 I like it. I like it. I like it. I don't love that that's where we're at. Easy. That's okay. Looks pretty doable. All right.

Starting point is 01:13:20 Hey, keep crushing it. We're proud of you, man. All right. Love y'all, man. Hey, you too. Love you guys. Sick jacket. It's awesome. Sweet. It is.

Starting point is 01:13:27 All right. AQ will do the shippley shuffle. Yep. As our next guest will get suited and booted. This is an honor. It's awesome. It's the best. I feel like this is a pretty cool opportunity.

Starting point is 01:13:41 Oh yeah. It does really hit you to like oh shit. The Super Bowl is on Sunday like the last game of the year the entire season balls down to this it's the best. We've been a fan of this dude for a long time because doesn't wear gloves.

Starting point is 01:13:55 Sure. Old school goes about his business. Yeah. Has had quite a showing for the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah. He's from the warm too.

Starting point is 01:14:04 So grew up in Florida doing it in Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah. He's from the warm too. So grew up in Florida, doing it in Cincinnati day in, day out. I respect that. Ladies and gentlemen, one of the greatest in the game in history, sack leader from the 2024 NFL season, 35 and a half sacks over the last two years. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Hendricks. 35 and a half sacks over the last two years ladies and gentlemen Trey Hendricks

Starting point is 01:14:31 What I want those Nike slip on his finger still you probably broke his finger. Yeah. Check him. Yeah. Check him. I'm gonna hurt your hand. Teddy Karis is over to the right. Oh, Doug Goat. Yeah, Doug Goat. Hey, baby. Teddy, good to see you, dude. Good to see you, Teddy. Good to see you, Pat. Got a hat for you. You know I do. Okay, okay. I can't wait to hear what Trey has to say here this morning. You got it. Okay. Trey, obviously teammate there, Teddy Karis. What an absolute legend. Do you know that in his sophomore year of high school, he drank a gallon of milk every day because he was trying to gain weight?

Starting point is 01:15:11 I've heard the stories. I heard the vomiting stories too. Yeah, yeah. He said he got sick and he made him feel terrible, but it didn't work. But he just committed to it because he wanted to be an NFL guy, family, an NFL guy. Let's talk about you. Trey, incredible. Hey, getting to the pastor, buddy. Yeah. Appreciate it. And I mentioned it there. You're from Florida.

Starting point is 01:15:29 You play in the cold in Cincinnati is where I think you've kind of done your hello world. I'm a real player. How is Cincinnati been being in a cold ass city during football season? How has that been? And what are your thoughts on the Cincinnati Bengals 2024 season that was?

Starting point is 01:15:46 Well, you know, first off, I love Cincinnati. I mean, it's been a, it's a home to me. My son was born there, you know, tremendous opportunity to play football at a high level. You know, 2024 season, I think playoffs was the goal. You know, sitting out last two years was kind of tough, but end of the day, I think we did great, you know know to rally around the guys we had and and playing for a cause yeah It was a weird year

Starting point is 01:16:10 We're just talking to Fred Warner weird year for the Niners felt like a weird year for you guys because so many people are playing Great including you so many people were playing great But for one reason or another it wasn't working out when you look back on the year And you guys weren't on that late run obviously when you look back on it always had and you guys went on that late run, obviously, when you look back on it, always had faith, going to make the playoffs, always had faith we're going to be in this thing in the end. Thought you had it on this team? Yeah, I think when you have a guy like Joe Burrow spinning at a high level, Jamar Chase, T Higgins catching the ball, Chase Brown running it, great O line too.

Starting point is 01:16:38 You have that offense set. Our defense kind of found our own groove coming into the end of season, and credit to Lou Anarumo for putting that together for us and leading us to a winning season. So Lou Anarumo now with the Indianapolis Colts. He's friend of the program. Oh yeah. He's been on, pies on. We've got a chance to chit chat with him.

Starting point is 01:16:57 What type of defense do you think he brings in Indianapolis whenever it comes to like the humans he's looking for? And how did you feel as Lou Anarumobo the coach for Trey Hendrickson? Well I was blessed to be productive under you know his scheme you know and I think he does a good job of making a very open room meaning like you can talk to him about scheme this doesn't necessarily fit to what we think we're gonna do to attack him very organic and you know he's a leader of elite men you know you got guys at four and eight to kind of rally behind a cause and you know continue to win football games and you know he's a leader of elite men. You know he got guys at four and eight to kind of rally behind a cause and you know continue to win football games and you know I love him. He's a great

Starting point is 01:17:31 friend to me. You know he was a mentor to me as well with the kind of some of the struggles that happen as you become a successful player. You know and through that he's been a tremendous mentor and I wish him nothing but the best. What do you mean about those struggles that come? First of all I love hearing that about the new Indianapolis coach defense coordinator shot the Louie in a room.

Starting point is 01:17:49 Whenever you say the struggles whenever it comes like becoming great what do you mean? You know like it was one of those things that there were some question marks when I signed in Cincinnati originally and you know he's always been there and supporting me in every direction that I had to go you know and as I continued to grow as a player, you know, to stay humble and, you know, to be productive under his defense was special. Did he say you should put gloves on? He mentioned it a couple times.

Starting point is 01:18:13 He saw me getting a little bloodied up, and he's like, you probably should throw gloves on, but, you know, I'm too far gone. Okay, so what is it you like to feel? Yeah, it's an old-style mentality. I think tape does the job, you know? Sam thinks I'm nuts, but, you know, it is an old style mentality. I think tape does the job. Sam thinks I'm nuts, but it is what it is. And what's on your finger there?

Starting point is 01:18:30 So this is like one of those boutonniere fingers. You got to keep it straight. Actually, this is like Sam's, like his brace. He designed it. Obviously, it's mine. But this was his baby on paper. So it works like a dream. So it's healing great.

Starting point is 01:18:45 OK, so your fingers are going to be nasty when you're done. Hopefully not. They're doing well so far. Yeah. But he does have straight fingers. Yeah, he's got a lot of years. What happened to you? He's got a striped shirt.

Starting point is 01:18:56 I wore gloves. That was my problem. Oh, you think the gloves? I think that's the problem. Yeah, I know. I wouldn't toughen them. So what is it? You just put gloves on, and you say, yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:19:03 I cannot imagine playing without gloves. I couldn't mean either. I'll wear one. It was definitely one of those things that I slipped off Tyrod Taylor a couple times in pre-season, sweaty gloves, you know, and it's just like, I've had enough of these. So, yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:13 Okay. And then since then, it was just kind of like a mentality and from there we just ran with it. How are the hands? How are the hands? Hands feel great. Now catching, can you catch?

Starting point is 01:19:21 Oh yeah, I'm pretty good. I'm all right. I played tight end in high school, so. They need to get let you get in there and. Yeah, yeah. Dibot has a question for you, Trey. Yeah. How frustrating is it now? How different is it now?

Starting point is 01:19:31 Now that you're at the top of the league, you're not creeping up on anybody. You are a game record. So on Wednesdays, offensive going in, putting you on the screen. Just let the league is sex. So now how is your prep changed now going into Sunday's? Zach King.

Starting point is 01:19:42 Well, I think, you know, it's it's you want. You don't want to go too far away from the fundamentals and technique that get you to where you want to be. You know, it's the small steps in life that get you, and it's the consistency of chopping wood every week that makes the tree fall. So I've been blessed to have an opportunity

Starting point is 01:19:58 to rush at a high level. All credit to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I'm very thankful of that. And obviously, being with great teammates and great schemes, like I said, wish nothing but the best to Lou and all the teammates I've played with. So when Jesus Christ blessed you with life, okay?

Starting point is 01:20:16 He said this guy's gonna have a high motor, good get off, explosion. What do you think you work on most? And what do you think is the thing that like you do well? Like, what do you know is like the thing that you're great at? Oh, well, you know, I've been explosive You know, that's it. That's a good way of putting it I think you know you can kind of see at a young age that you can do those things and play football that way But you know, I've been blessed to have a lot of great coaches in my life

Starting point is 01:20:40 You know Ryan Nielsen when I was first drafted Charlie Partridge who's with the Colts as well was my head coach at FAU Yeah, he's good dude, so you know it's not just me You know it's the people that met along the way that have molded me and shaped me into who I am today Yeah, you've done the work though. Yeah, it's fun to put in work. So you're from Orlando, Florida. Yeah north of P go and then you were down here and obviously Louisiana yep four years and you have Hello world party in Cincinnati. Yeah, and now the big question is and I don't like to do this, but we got to I want to let you know we asked Fred warren some tough questions

Starting point is 01:21:19 Yeah, very tough ones like the Mormon one is that he's out in the pocket. That's a tough question. He certainly It wasn't for sure. Yeah, but he got it right. I think I think Very tough ones like the Mormon one. He's that in the pocket. That's a tough question. He certainly It wasn't for sure. Yeah, but he got it right. I think I think I'm gonna act like it. I'm gonna act like it was right. Yeah, hashtag journalism. So when we're chatting about the Bengals Everybody needs paid. Yep, everybody needs paid Ever the same thing with the Niners every single year the Niners deal with a similar situation when When you have a lot of great players, especially if you draft them, so they're coming up on their first big paydays, you kind of make them, it kind of happens there. You got massive paydays around the corner, especially with where the NFL salaries are

Starting point is 01:21:56 going. $275 million projected cap next year, but that could even go even more through the roof. You are at a position that is always going to be very, very important. Whenever all this shit is happening around you on your team. I don't think we've ever heard you talk about it at all. What is your mentality? Do you say like the business will take care of itself? I got to focus.

Starting point is 01:22:15 Like how do you handle it all? And do you guys know the situation that is happening around you business wise? Well, credit to my wife. She has to listen to me when I go home. So, you know, she's been such a blessing to kind of bounce ideas off of. But I think there's a time and a place. I think the off season is a good spot to kind of address these kind of issues that do come up.

Starting point is 01:22:35 And during the season, when you're talking about OTAs or camp, you don't want to become a distraction for the team. Because inevitably, the goal is to win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati. You know what that looks like this season, you know, if it's something that we can agree on in terms, you know, that would be great. Ideally, my wife and I would love to stay in Cincinnati.

Starting point is 01:22:56 If it's something that helps the Bengals win a Super Bowl, if they get picks or anything like that, I want to help win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati if I'm there or not. Okay, interesting because Duke is speaking about it now. Duke Tobin, general manager for the Cincinnati Bengals. He was at the senior bowl and he chit-chatted about it. And I don't even think we really were like, oh, Trey, there is a situation because everything's on the offensive side. So going forward, do you see something you have to experience and live life with right

Starting point is 01:23:22 now? This is a part of your life right now having to deal with what the future looks like? Yeah I would have preferred to kind of heard it differently than my dad texting me a tweet you know that would have been great to kind of figure it out that way but you know obviously the the tables being set in that way but I just I love to play football I love the for the for my play to do the talking and at the end of the day, I think the chips will fall where they're gonna be and like I said whether whatever happens I want to win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati good time to be a sacking

Starting point is 01:24:00 Good for you Trey no gloves don't want to talk about it. I don't be a distraction Everybody else pissed about their money. Yeah. Me too. I mean, there's stuff. Not pissed, but I'm wondering. What are you doing all right? Wondering. I think you're doing all right. Yeah, I think you're wondering. No, you. I'm talking about you.

Starting point is 01:24:16 No, you're doing all right. Thank you. We are doing good. The crew is doing good. But we, I could see how you were wondering about like, well, when am I allowed to, is there even a, I don't know how this, I don't want to distract anything from anybody. And you talked about winning a Super Bowl. It's hard to win a Super Bowl. Well, look, it's a kind of, there's a couple of things that you want to, like, you know, you have to separate the business and the personal, you know, like with my wife and my family, you know, we're looking for like long term security guarantees. Those kind of things matter when you're playing a violent sport. And when you take the risk, we talked about it last year

Starting point is 01:24:48 with the front office and things like that. And I have nothing but respect for them. They've taken care of my family beyond my wildest dreams. You know, I was running down on special teams at like L3 in 2019. So to come this way and to be rewarded for the way I played in New Orleans, I'm very humbled and appreciative of the opportunity they gave me. You know I continue to chop wood like I said. Continue the hard work that the Lord has put on my heart and you know let the chips fall

Starting point is 01:25:14 where they will. The Lord dropping you at L3 is a wild place. You're way too big to be an L3. You are way too big to be an L3. I appreciate you saying that. AJ has a question for you. Yeah we know you've had a lot of success playing against this Chiefs team, especially individually.

Starting point is 01:25:28 We know you can rush the passer. What does this Chiefs offense do that makes it so tough to beat them? Well, I think you've got a really special head coach. And then you have really talented quarterback, tight end, and a lot of key pieces. And they like to have fun out there. They're jawing.

Starting point is 01:25:44 Can you tell, in the biggest games, they you can hear them talking that like does it look like they're all it's a collaborative effort yeah and they look like very very smooth too you know but I mean again credit to Lou you know we've had their number a couple times they've had our number it's been great games you know and it's fun to sack you know Pat to watch your highlights too yeah I saw it over there in the corner but he's he's a tremendous quarterback you know and it's fun to sack, you know, Pat Mahomes. It's fun to watch your highlights, too. Yeah, I saw it over there in the corner. But he's a tremendous quarterback, you know? And he's been in such big games very often. And you know, credit to him and what he's done for his team.

Starting point is 01:26:14 What was that celebration there? What was that celebration there? I saw at the end, we gave a kiss up to the Lord, I believe. Yeah. Do arms straight out? Yeah, that's a credit to like DeMario Davis. He had that one. That's the Lord. You know, he's been good to me. Yeah, so's a credit to like DeMario Davis. He had that one. That's the Lord. You know, he's been good to me.

Starting point is 01:26:27 Yeah. So, you know, Jesus on a cross right there. Everything that I am, I want to be, you know, given to the Lord. It's not for me to take ownership of these things. You know, I've I've been blessed to have very humble parents and, you know, humble upbringing. My brother's here with me today. Tall.

Starting point is 01:26:44 Great kid. Big SOB. So, you know, like my brothers here with me today tall great kid big sob so you know like Lord planted tall trees but just good people you know and everything I am and everything I do I want it I want to glorify the Lord with it love everything about it Connor has a question for you yeah sure I mean you know we'll see how everything works out but it feels like you and T Higgins are gonna to look great in New England. But when it comes to the season, how was the Hard Knocks experience? Obviously, you mentioned you don't really do media that much. Ted said it too. How was that kind of dealing with cameras and microphones all over the place when obviously that hadn't happened in the past? Yeah, I think it was just good to be yourself. It was different for sure.

Starting point is 01:27:24 You got cameras that would rotate every once in a while and then you're on you're on camera for the rest of the day You know you got guys mic'd up that normally aren't you know it was an interesting experience it also got to see like how other teams practice in our division, you know and That was that was a cool experience, but would I sign up for it every year probably not okay? Yeah Yeah, I think everybody that's ever done It says the same exact thing we enjoyed watching if it means anything Do you lotion five six times a day face? No, no, how are you? 30 years old look great. Wow good skin Blushing I don't think you can

Starting point is 01:28:04 I don't think you can. I can't. I can't blush. Unbelievable. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, speaking of the division, what is it about the AFC North? Obviously you, you're the sack king now. Miles has been the sack king. TJ has been the sack king. The Ravens always have someone. I think Kyle Van Noy had 12 or 13 this year. What do you think it is about the AFC North that just breeds pass rushers? It sounds a little bit like the 2017 draft but yeah. Oh, is that real? Oh yeah. Got home groups 2017? Van Oy might not be but he's amazing.

Starting point is 01:28:31 He was just at the Pro Bowl. He's 07 I think. Yeah, he's been somewhat dead. But yeah, no, I think it's a gritty division. I think that's like, it's like old style football, you know, and these old rivalries to be a part of is so sick. I love the AFC North. I love playing for the Cincinnati side of it as well. It's been so fun to get into these fist fights with really talented quarterbacks,

Starting point is 01:28:53 really good defenses, and obviously watch Joe spin it. Joe's, what's Joe like day to day? He's great. You know, he definitely keeps to his own, but he works hard. He's an example for other guys on the team. He's a super cool hooker. Yeah, yeah, he's a cool guy. But you know, like the want to and the grit, I think those are the things that go under unnoticed.

Starting point is 01:29:13 You know, he doesn't complain when he gets hit. He doesn't really do any of that stuff, and he spends it at, like, an extremely high level. Yeah, very high level. I mean, he hits a keyhole if he needed to. He, his first couple years, he wanted to take a hit. Remember that? Ohio guy.

Starting point is 01:29:27 Wake him up. I should like taking a shot. He said everybody, I'm not saying it was just us, but everybody was like, Hey, we need to get over that. We need to start waking up without taking hits. He was taking massive shots. Was it the Eagles? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:29:40 Head dislodged from body. And then he came back. Yeah. And he came back in the game. Yeah. Joe's absolutely tough. Nobody really talks about it when he's playing. You guys are much. Why do you guys start slow? Oh, well, you know, that's a, that's a question for you. You know, we tell us, you know, I was talking about Joe, Joe didn't have training camp for multiple years. Right. And initially he had training. Yep. So we thought that this was going to

Starting point is 01:30:01 be the best year. That's how we got there. Thatrey. That's one of the little peek inside my mind. No doubt. That is how we got to where we were saying, why do you guys start so slow? Good question, yeah. Starting slow is not something that I think we all have on the drawing board to do every year. But it has happened that way,

Starting point is 01:30:16 but we do a good job of digging out of a hole. I mean, we find a way to have winning seasons for Zach. And that's one of the things in football is facing adversity. I think it's a great teacher in life you know so to kind of find out what we're made of early and often it's worked so that's so dangerous you do that from the beginning of season as if they play like from the beginning of the season probably playing right now whoa I don't know I'm just saying you guys get into here. I imagine. There is a chance. You guys getting to the dance, I don't think anybody wanted to see you.

Starting point is 01:30:45 Oh, right. No doubt. That was a conversation. That was like everybody was talking about it. And then obviously, lurking. No doubt. Dolphins in the colts. I think, like I said, that's the talent of our offense.

Starting point is 01:30:55 I can't say enough about Joe, Jamar, and T. And specifically T, because there's a lot going on in his situation as well. I mean, for a guy to take that kind of a role where on 31 other teams, he's going to be wide receiver one, and then here he's accepting a role in wide receiver two. I think that's, I think it's a very, I think it's a very, you know, maybe a similar role, maybe a similar one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:31:18 Unless you guys, unless you guys, well, you got to give him a shot. Okay, we'll give him 28. We'll give him 28. We'll give him 20 First and then let's see because he's a monster he'd be one and yeah I mean T is an absolute beast would be a shot at wide receiver one for a season Let's see how it all plays out if it does or if it doesn't Oh Trey saying yeah, I'm talking if he does Let's see what this guy does But now he's gone off and he's gone crazy. So I'm talking to everybody. If he does. Let's see what this guy does. Well, in games where DeVar's been out, he's gone off.

Starting point is 01:31:45 He's gone crazy. So I'm just saying, I respect his game. I respect that he's very humble. I think he's a great guy. Same thing with Jamar for how he handled the diversity as well. Tremendous respect for him. That is an interesting perspective that we haven't talked about yet.

Starting point is 01:31:58 If T is just cool with being the number two guy, just goes about his business, signed franchise thing, all right, I'll do it. Let's go. Whenever at the wide receiver position. It's pretty rare. Yeah, if it ever happens. Very rare.

Starting point is 01:32:08 If it doesn't happen and we're all there, that's the ideal, I mean, I love being his teammate. I mean, he's a fantastic guy and works hard, you know. I got that jersey for my, for the room at the end of the, at the end of the career. Oh yeah? Yeah, he's a special talent. Where, end of career, you'll be back in Florida?

Starting point is 01:32:23 How's the fishing? You fish, you golf, what Florida shit do you do be back in Florida. How's the fishing you fish you golf? What Florida shit do you do? I'm working on all those things, you know, those are things that we we we definitely did growing up But I don't think I'm at any level to be like an expert fisherman or expert golf any hobbies Both of those are pretty great bowling's fun, too I'm telling yeah, that's the only way if you somebody says they love bowling and they. Oh, your own ball. I'm telling you. Yeah, I got that's the only way. If you somebody says they love bowling and they don't have their own ball, just walk away.

Starting point is 01:32:49 So what's your average that do you have like an average what you shoot? You know, that's something that we were kind of working on for a groove there. My dad was over 200 a lot. I was right in the 175. Okay. You guys are real bullies. We grew up in an alley. We were in and out of them.

Starting point is 01:33:02 You know, it was something that my brother and I, my dad started to pick up towards an off season here and there. How's the billiards? Not as good as I should be. You smoke cigs in there when you're bowling? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 01:33:18 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Patterns on the lanes or not? What do you do? You check the watch? Definitely see if it's if it's slick or not real quick because if your balls not spinning it's it's a bad lane Which one are we sitting on are we going to two triangles three over three triangles? Yeah, I'm giving a good who's the goat once over um Who's that guy that's like warm? Yeah, two-handed. We know who we're talking about Pete Weber What about the two-handed water from down under Rick Ken Kedmore. Yeah, it really changed the game.

Starting point is 01:33:45 Now you guys are watching bowling. This is a completely different discussion. You walked into this. You just wanted to say it, not us. We don't get to talk about bowling much. Let's go back to fishing. I'm reeling this one in. Okay, Kevin Van Dam.

Starting point is 01:33:55 Let's talk about Kevin Van Dam. You guys are all over it. Kevin Van Dam. KVD, oy, oy, oy. Yeah, he's pulling fish out of any water, brother. This is tremendous. Thank you. It's a show.

Starting point is 01:34:09 Ty has a question for you. Going back to the slow starts, and you mentioned Zack. Yes. I feel like in this Super Bowl, a lot of people all season were talking about Nick Sirianni and saying, hey, this guy's a big dumb dipshit. He's kind of just lucky that he's the coach of the Eagles. It seems like Zack gets a lot of that as well and we saw a little bit of how he is

Starting point is 01:34:27 You know in team meetings on hard knocks and everything But what's your relationship like with him because when he went to the Super Bowl everyone's saying okay, here's the guy You know, this is the McVeigh's protege, but then the next couple years It's like we got to get this guy the hell out of here. He's ruining Joe burrow What's he like in front of the team and what's your relationship like with him? Yeah, I definitely think it's not the same narrative as any would have that would be the hell out of here. He's ruining Joe Burrow. What's he like in front of the team, and what's your relationship like with him? Yeah, I definitely think it's not the same narrative as any of that would be.

Starting point is 01:34:49 I think he's tremendous. He's the leader of elite men as well. Makes a lot of big decisions. I've had some good conversations with him. I love him. I think he's great. He calls a great offense, obviously, when you're talking about the guys having the success

Starting point is 01:35:02 that they've had. He's putting guys in the right position. Guys are getting open, and he's smart enough to be in that McVeigh system. I heard some of the calls on hard knocks. I didn't listen too much, because we do play against them every day. It's kind of a little low blow.

Starting point is 01:35:18 But yeah, they have a great system. I think he's a great coach. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else or coach by anybody else. And that's obviously the goal for this offseason you go down to that watering hole He always takes the game ball to what's that bar? Yeah, I was just there you were just there. That's a Ted I want to do you walk away already Steelers Bengals game. He's he's in all those watering holes love Ted It's an Irish name. There's an Irish name to it ladies and gentlemen, oh, there's Thomas right there ladies and, joining us now as the Marines are celebrating their 250th birthday, I

Starting point is 01:35:52 believe we have the two Marines that are gonna be doing the flyover. Gentlemen, we appreciate that. Hey, hold up, we got to turn on your mic, we got you muted. These guys hate the troops in a minute. Wow. Hey, first of all, thank you gentlemen for your service. We appreciate the help. Thank you. We appreciate it. Legitimately. Okay, so you guys are doing the flyovers.

Starting point is 01:36:10 What are your names? I'm Justin Pitcock. Yeah, but title, what should I? Major Justin Pitcock. I'm a V-22 Osprey pilot. Hey! Okay, Major. Okay, Major.

Starting point is 01:36:21 I'm Lieutenant Colonel Mike Thiesing. Okay, so we got a Major and Lieutenant Colonel here. That's right. Okay you guys will be doing the flyover on Sunday? We absolutely will be. Can't wait. Okay what are we flying over there? We got four MV-22s and then there it is right there.

Starting point is 01:36:34 Oh shit. That's sweet. A sexy machine right there. That's actually me flying yesterday. We did a practice run and so I'm in the right seat. But we got four of those bad boys and then then we're gonna have two F-35s. Okay, so the timing, obviously, is the biggest part of this whole thing.

Starting point is 01:36:48 Oh yeah. How much practice are we doing? How much are we rehearsing? And when do you guys find out you're doing it? So we practiced yesterday, we're practicing again on Friday. You're invited to that if you'd like to come. Yeah, do you wanna go flying on Friday? What?

Starting point is 01:37:00 Can he parachute out of it? We don't wanna have anybody, we don't carry parachutes. Parachutes are for quitters. Oh But if you want to go if you want to go grip it and rip it and do another practice run But the grip in ripping thing is the thing that I fear, you know, cuz I will yam it all over that entire place What is the what time is that all happening? So we're gonna do the flyover around 16 to 1800 or so. So 4 o'clock to 6 o'clock for all you non-military folks. Okay, yeah thank you. We're doing the math there. 12 I think is involved. I gotta

Starting point is 01:37:34 subtract this entire thing. How many years of service from you two gentlemen? So I've been in for 19 years. 18 for me. We appreciate you. Wow. Where you guys from? Where you from Major? I'm from Texas, from East Texas right now, Nacogdoches. Not far from where Patrick Mahomes We appreciate you. Wow. Thank you, boy. Where are you guys from? Where are you from, Major? I'm from Texas, from East Texas right now, Nacogdoches. Not far from where Patrick Mahomes was born and raised. Okay, so you've always been a pilot? You got in the Marines to be a pilot, or how did this work? 9-11 happened my freshman year, so I was looking for a way to serve, but I've always been interested

Starting point is 01:37:57 in the air, and the Marines afforded that opportunity. Okay, so Marines, everybody thinks Air Force, obviously, in the sky, but the Marines, we have a lot of history right right, in the sky. Absolutely. Naval aviation goes way back and the Marine Corps has been part of it from the beginning. And how about you, Lieutenant Colonel? Yeah, so I grew up in Houston, Texas, originally from Ohio. I'm an Ohio State alum, OH.

Starting point is 01:38:16 Ohio, buddy. And a great win. Oh, I loved it. Congrats, Natty. Congrats, international. Yes. So, but yeah, so I grew up outside of Texas, but then lived all over it.

Starting point is 01:38:28 And right now I live in Charlotte. Okay, we're always gonna be in the sky? We're gonna be pilots? Always wanted to be a pilot from birth, absolutely. Okay, and when you're pulling the G's, you're not puking or any of that shit? Cause you, you're inviting me- That depends on you.

Starting point is 01:38:40 That's not my problem. Okay, so you never? I've no, never thrown up. Did you puke early? You didn't puke early when you first started out. No, no never What's the craziest thing that we have that we don't know about me that we've flown yes or that we've done That you've flown and done. I guess you do but I can tell you some crazy stuff that we've done Not on the mic, but Friday when you come on a Friday. We'll tell you all types of crazy stuff

Starting point is 01:39:07 What's the UFO? Oh, yeah. Well, what are you? I'm a USO's Cannot confirm or deny Wow have you flown anything that you thought yourself? Wow, this is like a ET type vehicle here. There's some technology. Well, if you look at that Osprey again, I mean, that thing, so that Osprey is, can take off like a helicopter and fly like an airplane. So those big rotors on the side there, we'll flip them up and so we can take off and land like a helicopter and then we'll transition them

Starting point is 01:39:35 down to that vertical space. Let's be honest, some people look at what we look like and they think, whoa, that must be not from this planet, right, so we get mistaken maybe. Yeah, cause we got some shit Not like this is insane so it takes off from a standstill how fast can it go? Oh, so we're gonna for the flyover gonna be about 250 knots which is just about 300 miles an hour It'll work if we're gonna be humming doesn't make the flyover different the fact that it's a dome down here

Starting point is 01:39:59 So now it's a great question so that we're gonna have we've been working NFL the films and all the video Fox and all those Guys and on Friday, they're gonna be doing a lot of filming and they'll have stuff on top of the dome And then during the actual flyover day, there'll be cameras everywhere capturing it So the folks inside the dome will get to see it. Nice. What's the helicopter jet thing that we have? That's awesome Normally used for what would that be used for lay in Scania? Yeah. Oh, yeah We're bringing we're bringing Marines. We'll drop off Marines and deliver hate and discontent all around the world yes sometimes you got to go through hey we appreciate the hell out of you happy birthday to the Marines thank you thank you very much hell yeah thank you guys for serving and when we

Starting point is 01:40:39 scream is that massively disrespectful to you guys? No it's not. Hurrah! Massively exciting. Okay, it's massively exciting. Keep it going, you're getting pretty jacked up right now. Alright, we appreciate your major, Lieutenant Colonel, thank you so much and can't wait to see you on Sunday. Thanks a lot guys. Hurrah! That's why I qualify for that invite, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:41:02 You can take my spot actually. Funny enough, I'm gonna need you to go. Yeah, we need you to film it too so we can say you know there was part of it. It is an honor to get asked and I've been very fortunate to do a lot of work with the military. Very thankful for the military and the people that I've met whenever in Japan on the USO tour, been to a bunch of bases. It is, they're a great group of people obviously. Heroes walking amongst us and it's always an honor to be asked You know and anytime you get a challenge going obviously it's something that is incredibly

Starting point is 01:41:30 Humbling I'll say in the moment. I don't think you're gonna see me on one of those planes I don't think you're sitting on that thing have you been in one before so blue angels they asked me to do it I watched a couple videos people doing it and I'm like, yep. That's who I am. I'm not gonna do that I'm not gonna puke all over this thing. Incredible honor, I went and watched the show. So he did a great job. That was an honor to watch. I can't believe we have that much control of fighter jets.

Starting point is 01:41:55 I can't believe they're just flying 400 miles an hour, just like that, and then just, yeah, we're holding a turn left. And that happens in India every single year, and since we're so close to the airport airport their practices fly over the Thunderdome and we're seeing them at like 400 feet above the sky Yeah, and then straight up in the air and it's like I'm not built for that The book my body is not built for that. Oh jeez Tom cruising that Yeah, that's what I am at 1g go supersonic. Yeah, I can't begin into a push out to them

Starting point is 01:42:22 That's what I'm an awesome out today documentary on it was awesome But I felt disrespectful to ask them you think it's possible to fly one of those knock it rocked up I don't think I would have been disrespect. No chance. They're rocked up the whole flight When we did it rather 30,000 hours in that I don't care all natural Viagra brother Thank you. You don't need no blue pill bow All right, you don't need it Congrats to you tray by the way on No blue pill, pal. I see, right. All right, you don't need it.

Starting point is 01:42:43 Congrats to you, Trey, by the way. Yeah, congrats. Thanks. You're going to enjoy that, bro. You're going to enjoy it. You're going to have a good time on that. Let's talk about Joe Tuni, especially with Trey Hendrickson here. He's a guard.

Starting point is 01:42:55 Obviously, the story has been told numerous times on this program and throughout all of sports, because it's a big deal. This guy's like a Hall of Fame guard. They've had to cycle through tackles. He bounces out to tackle for the playoffs. has done well. They've won games. Now, A.Q. Shipley, offensive lineman, says, they're kind of protecting them. They're kind of protecting them a little bit. All RPOs, not putting them out on an island. That's because Andy Reid's a good coach, and everybody needs to do that. But what he's saying is the guy's body type

Starting point is 01:43:19 is not built to be a tackle. That's just a matter of fact. Whenever you're looking at a tackle that you're going to be taking on what are you studying what are you thinking about and who do you hate the most? Who do you what style of tackle do you hate the most? Well ironically I think it's it's all going to kind of come together so I actually played him at tackle Orlando went down with a calf I think it was 2021 and we went we went a full game that way me and Thuney he was great. He played well at tackle I do think he got a little bit of that you know help a little bit And we went a full game that way. Me and Thuney, he was great. He played well at tackle. I do think he got a little bit of that help a little bit

Starting point is 01:43:49 there. But he's a heck of a talent, a heck of a talent. But Orlando Brown, now that we got him in Cincinnati, he was Zeus, right? There's just not a lot of ways to attack a guy like that. I mean, he's got long arms, quick feet, incredibly talented. I can talk about my teammates for a while,

Starting point is 01:44:06 but when I went up against him, you know, we would not only go at it physically, but we were drawn to. How about like a Deon Dawkins? Whenever he does that, I'm smarter than you move? Yeah, Deon's a problem too. Like he knows how to play the game within the game as well. You know, he's got a quick get off off the line.

Starting point is 01:44:22 He definitely anticipates things and his set is very unique as well. He's dropped with like a lot of vertical depth. That poses a couple challenges if you're trying to get a guy like Josh Allen as well because he's very mobile so you don't want to go inside too quickly because then you're leaving your whole defense pretty exposed. What are you looking at ball or knee? I think every good rusher should have like a triangle where it's you know ball is key and then the man is obviously Anticipating the ball and then the quarterback who's calling for the ball is gonna give you a teller too But some of the vets are flashing hands and stuff like that

Starting point is 01:44:58 Wow, okay good, I think I think a part of me left. Earmuffs. Earmuffs. I thought I had a bringer. You had them. Yeah. Could you imagine if you jumped off? I would have. Yeah. Got him. Boom. Oh, that's great.

Starting point is 01:45:12 Oh, that's great. That's great. I'm not your puppet, dude. I'm not jumping off side just because you yelled in my face. But that would be impossible. I don't know how you don't, especially with some of these cadences. I've had a couple.

Starting point is 01:45:25 Cam Newton had a great, you know, he'd get after Drew Brees as well and practice two minute drills. I gave Dennis Allen a couple gray hairs. You know, so I'd say it was a grind. Ever play against Romo? Romo's hard count. I think you've played him.

Starting point is 01:45:39 I think that might have been one of the special teams years. But OK. I was like, yeah, just like a, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, OK, I was like, just like, why would they say her? This was better. Yours was definitely better. Well, I was in Romo. I was in Tony Romo.

Starting point is 01:45:52 That was Romo. Just not making me jump off sides. You got to give a real set. Go ahead, give it. Here we go. That's Tony Romo. That was Tony Romo. I don't really have one of my own.

Starting point is 01:46:02 I did my own. He did Tony Romo. You just said it. My K-12. So yours is better than Tony Romo. So good to know. Yeah, I did my own he got Tony Romo. Yeah My case so yours is better No, yeah Personation All right, nobody's gonna talk about it big do that the hand No, I think it's cuz they made rules you weren't allowed to move your hand towards the line of scrimmage I was not to move my head at all

Starting point is 01:46:24 So it had to be like it had to be a hood allowed to move your hand towards the line of scrimmage. I wasn't allowed to move my head at all. So it had to be like, it had to be a hook. It had to be, had to be that number there. Cause the guy on the edge is up on a razor's edge. Hair trigger. Yeah. If you, if you can get a little bit, it's like, you can still first down. I got a couple of them.

Starting point is 01:46:38 It's a big deal. Now, also I got called for a couple and Vinny had to kick a further kick. So he's about done with that shit. We'll say that. Okay. No big deal. AJ has a question for you, Trey, as we wrap up our two here from Radio Roll.

Starting point is 01:46:51 When you talk about pass rushers, I know a lot of guys have like separate pass rush specialists they work with. Do you work with anybody like that? I know there's guys that sometimes will come into a camp or maybe in the off season where you work on a guy like the hand dude with still these martial arts people. Do you do anything like that in the off season? Not really for me, but I'm never one to say that stuff doesn't work.

Starting point is 01:47:09 But for me, I like to do what my coach is teaching me. I think that's something that a lot of players get lost in. You can learn a lot of things, and if your coach isn't coaching it, I don't think that helps too much for the defense or the scheme. So I tend to kind of shy away from that. I'm trying to get faster and stronger and mentally sharper every off season.

Starting point is 01:47:28 And those are the things that keep stacking bricks. And then we let the chips fall where they will. Does everything come from the threat of power? Like speed to power? Like this dude needs to know that I can bull rush him, and I can do everything else off of that. I think you're so good with your hands. But your power, you just take dudes right into the quarterback

Starting point is 01:47:43 and then your hand work is impressive getting off and getting to them. Yeah, I think a lot of people just see that rush, right? Like they don't see the setup that comes within the game. Yes, we're playing it. You're kind of setting that up with power rushes, and they're feeling power. This is like driving them back as you feel power.

Starting point is 01:48:00 Power, you feel power. Power, power. Absolutely. Yeah, power, power, power, power, power. But yeah, that's kind of like the game within the game. You get tackles that'll do that too. They'll throw a soft set on the outside and make you think in different rushes as well. So it's all kind of, it goes that way and obviously playing with the lead helps with

Starting point is 01:48:17 Joe Burrow. So that always makes things easier. Is it fair for me to say it looks like this guy's trying on this play, but not this other play? Or is that a potential setup play on the one where he's not trying and maybe I'm misjudging go ahead Yeah, like when Patrick or cards in the game. Do you maybe you know kind of take take it easy a little business decision I'm just shocked that he's still a fullback. You know at some point. They got to say he's like a tee tackle He's 320 pounds and every bit of it and he's a he's a stud you know I Met his family at the Pro Bowl a tee tackle. He's 320 pounds in every bit of it. And he's a stud.

Starting point is 01:48:47 I met his family at the Pro Bowl a couple times. He's a good dude. Heck of a competitor as well, so nothing but good things to say about him. You got a locker there at the Pro Bowl, huh? Just every year I'm coming. You tried the Pro Bowl? I was, yeah.

Starting point is 01:48:58 What did the Pro Bowl games like this year? Oh, it was fun. I can't believe the guys all over the place come together and won. It's a really special environment. I can't believe the guys like, you know all over the place come together and one that gets it It's a really special environment, you know elite players all over the country I think so felt like there's more effort this year, too Oh, yeah, I felt like there was a little more as the home and they make it so fun, too You know like the Pro Bowl games they're interacting, you know, it's all for the kids as I call, you know

Starting point is 01:49:18 it's like it's inspiring kids to flag football and stuff like that and You know taking miles off the car before it starts so to To Dibach's point that's your Florida boy right? Yeah. Have a lot of family there friends watching his pro bowl. He filled that stadium up. Oh yeah. Did you see that? Yeah. I won a state championship in that Popka High School 2012 in that stadium it's now camping world it was like it was renamed I think but yeah that was a fun environment. I thank you for joining us for this hour to wrap up our day here on ESPN as we continue on ESPN+, Disney+, YouTube, and TikTok Live. There's some local chefs it appears. This was not set up,

Starting point is 01:50:00 this was not prepared, this was just something that just literally showed up shot at the radio row having this What do we got here boss? What do we got here chef? We got a 12-hour smoke building Any gator appreciate you guys, where's this from? Where's this from? Sodexo live we appreciate the hell out of you guys. Have a great Super Bowl week. Thank you, Chef. Thank you, Chef. That's a lot of meat there, Tra Hendrix. That's a lot of meat.

Starting point is 01:50:31 We'll enjoy all of that and the rest of this particular program live from Radio Row. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Never forget it. We'll see you tomorrow on ESPN. We continue on the internet. Goodbye. They would nail it. They would nail it still live train still live train

Starting point is 01:50:47 crystal after it don't say easy yeah still live on the YouTube unless you want to say you want to go to New England or you maybe want to come all over Indianapolis in the end where I'm at in Cincinnati but it was let's see there's a lot of things that have to happen, but all of that's out of my control. Got money for you. That's a big piece of beef. That's a sandwich. And I don't know how you eat the sandwich with the bone in it.

Starting point is 01:51:14 Impossible. But the bone, that's going to be a tough eat, I think. I do appreciate the fact that they're like, hey, Lushen, we don't want to take off bone for you because that gets away the flavor. I don't know if I'm beating that, but it looks good. Yeah, some of that beef. You don't need to eat the bread. New Orleans food is like something they're known for, right? The food down here, the chefs down here, everything like that.

Starting point is 01:51:37 What's your favorite food? Are you a super diety? I'm not a huge foodie. No, I've been blessed to have a chef. Obviously, she cooks for my wife and I Yeah Definitely are blessing the food for sure, but they are what are we eating? You know it changes up week to week. You know like I'm big chicken fajitas guy though

Starting point is 01:51:59 I think that's a staple in the family so you know that's the definitely meal. Chee-chees coming out sizzling on the plate. Any good popeye's? How was that? Solid. Any gator? Top notch. Yeah, you like gator down here? You ever eat gator?

Starting point is 01:52:14 We have gator. You ever eat gator, boy? I have had gator, and it's all right. What do we do? We eat that on a sandwich with a gator? Fried po' boy. The pasta gator? Yeah, po' boy.

Starting point is 01:52:23 Yeah, po' boy. Gator on sticks. Gator on sticks a stick? Gator on a stick? Uh huh, one of my favorites. It's been a while since I've been in New Orleans. You ever go hunting in Gator? It feels like I'm back now. It feels like he's home. You ever go hunting in Gator?

Starting point is 01:52:31 Uh, you know occasionally, yeah, it happens. Have you ever gone? I've been invited, for sure. So I've gone hogging and frogging. I've never gone Gator hunting though, but I've done like a Louisiana thing. You watch the swamp, you know, know the swamp people it's a gator on like a string stick, right? Hit him in the head with a bat. That's right. I forgot like sharks. Yeah, they lure him in

Starting point is 01:53:18 Gators pop up and they shoot him right in between the eyes. Yeah, I got you cuz I got a horn roll That's Gator hunt. I'm now educated. That's Gator, hun. I'm now educated. It's good Gator kill. I'm happy we could bring something to you. I love eating that Gator. I love eating Gator. Gator boots, Gator belts, Gator wallets. All right, we appreciate you stopping by, Trey. We really got better today. Yeah, so did I. We hope you feel that way. I did. We hope that you exit this stage a better you than whenever he came on And you did great. It's up. Yeah. Yeah, are you selling something approval now? You're selling Let's see the shots like come on. You talked about the you want to shoot. Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, yeah

Starting point is 01:53:56 Now I heard they're like foam though those beads are China message those beads on the rim are making a little I Recommend going with the bank here. So how many shots before? Because Fred was talking about the discretion too. Hold on, hold on, hold on. How many? Don't give away the gimmick, brother. Every time is the first time.

Starting point is 01:54:14 All right, every time is the first time. Yeah, yeah, because. Wow. Right? It's quality. It's a bad ball. No, no, no. That was good.

Starting point is 01:54:20 It's well done. Not great. Hold on, Trey. You're kind of. I said it's well done. Yeah, but you're looking at us as if we bought these. Yeah. Yeah, okay.

Starting point is 01:54:27 We did it. Hold on. It's good defense. Good pocket. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Hendrickson, pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals, a man who wears no gloves on a football field in 2025 when technology has got to a point where they make gloves

Starting point is 01:54:42 that don't even feel like gloves anymore. He says, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be tracked. I want these bare mitts to be ripping jerseys in tackling quarter bands. He's here with no business. Tomorrow you will be here for business, which is the company of old spice. Nice. Nice. Solid. Quality company. That was a good record. Yeah. Yeah. Dub Man Care a little bit. Whole Body Dio. You should have some right now. I got some of my backpack. Let's make sure we have those out here for the future. No doubt. It's an old bottle I've had forever because it lasts so long. Yeah. It never ends. Old Spice. Yep. Old Spice.

Starting point is 01:55:23 We don't know about their bottle. We don't know their bottle. That's tomorrow Trey. We don't know their bottle. Got it. We know our bottle, the Dove Mencare Whole Body D.O. Two different smells, one great outcome. Like the Clash of Titans. You don't smell like shit anymore. Shout out to Dove Mencare Whole Body D.O. And also shout out to Old Spice paying our guy here. Shout out. Representing our guy. Getting behind our guy. I guess. Thank you. This guy just wants to provide for his family by tackling quarterbacks.

Starting point is 01:55:50 Wants it to be fair. Well how about winning 50 people $500.00. Wow. You can come down here to New Orleans, sit on a set that was put together that's way too nice and well we deserve. Put one basketball that's kind of like and a little... Very slick. Into a basketball hoop right over here and 50 people will win $500. Be an athlete, Trey.

Starting point is 01:56:12 Be an athlete, Trey. For the people... I thought that was it. That was a good first shot. Confident. You gator armed it. You did kind of gator arm it. It was a little bit of a gator arm.

Starting point is 01:56:20 Yeah, a little bit of a gator arm. All right, so how many? Two? More? One more. The next one's the first one. This is the first one. The next one's the first one. This is the first one. It was a little bit of a gait on. Yeah, a little bit of a gait on. All right, so how many? Two? More? One more. The next one's the first one. This is your first one.

Starting point is 01:56:27 Next one's the first one. This is the first one. Hey, you get the ball in your hand, and you just like. I'm coachable. Great to be here. You know, like that's it. I'm coachable. And I'm even holding this, so it looks like maybe

Starting point is 01:56:36 it was the first shot. You know, because I'm holding the backup ball right here. You have no idea. These people are certainly going to remember that you missed one pretty short there. 1.1. Pretty short there. And to be be clear I don't know if you got to a point where it would even get into her especially with the jingle

Starting point is 01:56:50 bells beads across the top which what did our rim do to get those talking about Jesus Christ ain't talking about it Gross. Trey Hendrickson for the good of 70. First shot. Here we go. First shot. First try. First try. You don't have to say it Trey. Seventy-five people, five hundred dollars.

Starting point is 01:57:13 What? All you gotta do is put that basketball with a busted ring finger into that hoop right over there and seventy-five people win five hundred dollars because thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Thank God for Trey. Thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Too many straight shots. because thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Thank God for Trey. Amen. Thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Oh! Too many straight shots. Banks open, fellas.

Starting point is 01:57:30 That was unbelievable. Banks open. Wow. Okay. All right. 75 people, $500. All you gotta do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody in the reply,

Starting point is 01:57:39 and put the easiest way to pay you. What a start to Super Bowl week down here at the Convention Center to pay you. What a start to Super Bowl week down here at the convention center. Thanks, Open. Football! Is the greatest. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We are live down here in New Orleans and Wednesday's the day where everybody really starts filing in. You know, in years past we maybe came down on like a Monday night and did Tuesday here at Radio Row.

Starting point is 01:58:09 And it was an echo within the convention center as they were setting things up and there was beeping because there was buildings being pieced together here in Radio Row. But Wednesday, all the way through the weekend, should be absolutely electrifying in here. People from every town in the country, maybe even every single country in the world are here to chit chat about Super Bowl 59 on Sunday. Now, I'm not alone, obviously I'm with the boys. What a time to celebrate football and life. The Talks at Table's here at Posse Conner.

Starting point is 01:58:37 At Ty Schmidt, Ty, how you feeling? Feeling great, that beef was delicious. It was good, but wow. Absolutely delicious. Little fatty, little bit of gristle on there, but hey, that you need that late in the season. You know, you need something to kind of toughen you up, let you know what we're here for, what we're playing for. Yeah, you talked about the flavor. Seems like there's all seasons out there. It's a value though. Yeah, that's right.

Starting point is 01:58:55 Asian flavor in which I love. Yeah, absolutely. We're gonna be eating good in the next couple nights. Oh yeah. You know, like a basketball player down here maybe. Whoa. Not anymore. No he's shredded. He's absolutely strapped. Jocked. Maybe some of that gator. The Pelicans have traded a player and some assets away from the Pelicans to the Oklahoma City Thunder for nothing in return so I don't know what that means for the New Orleans Pelicans but we do know it's going to be a great week down here. Yeah. One half of the hammer. Down. Cowboys AP Tony's here. Nine year NFL vet, you look super cool, especially with the Duke in your hair. Darius J. Baller is here.

Starting point is 01:59:28 AJ Hawk is here, you look great AJ. What you learned from the guests today, Trey Hendrickson. Seems like a really, really good dude and he's obviously an unbelievable player, but is he gonna be back in Cincinnati? Well, I think he's got one year left on his contract, I think. Yes, he does.

Starting point is 01:59:40 He's going into the final year of his contract. So this is when the rubber meets the road. This is where we try to figure out if we're going to do this or we're not going to do this. Cincinnati Bengals have been in this situation a lot. Cincinnati Bengals in their eyes say last year contract means you got two more franchise tags on the other. We got three years left.

Starting point is 01:59:58 What the Cincinnati Bengals have said in the past and done in the past, but maybe they operate a little bit differently now because they have so many damn megastars and they have a chance to go to the Super Bowl every single year. Trey Hendrickson is the NFL's sack king. He led the NFL in sacks. Everybody talks about Myles Garrett. Everybody talks about TJ Quiet. Everybody talks about the Boses, Max Crosby, you name it.

Starting point is 02:00:18 The guy who had the most sacks this year, Trey Hendrickson, guy who wears no gloves and he's going in the final year of his contract in Cincinnati with a lot of people That are eager to get paid I'm excited to see how it works out and he was saying that television shows about Gary hunt it's fake what? Yeah, that's what he said right here You mean like that he did he was saying he is a real you mean like these guy are hundred What would he know? Yeah, Florida boy down here in New Orleans. I think there is a chance. He knows a lot actually Telegator hunter it's fake. knows a lot actually Tell a gator hunter. It's fake. Oh You're gonna turn into a gator

Starting point is 02:00:51 They'll hunt you that's right well said yep We're talking to locals yeah, you were talking to the casino last night Yeah, and they're paying you talked all about the Gator and they're They're paying you. Oh, yeah, you're not paying them Last night. Hopefully we can keep it rolling tonight if we have that zany dealer again if you see Melissa at the Caesars You look it you fucking high tail the other way. Yeah Why what happened? She's the worst? Tell the bus thing cuz that's all you need to say. So obviously you know Blackjack you're playing against the dealer is the team and you know it

Starting point is 02:01:32 gets to her and she goes over she busts but she'll go 21 even though she has 26. I would lose it. And she's she's Miss Mathing allegedly I was not there. Yeah but this sounds like this is this is fireball offenses for in my eyes never experienced it in any blackjack table I've ever been on same feel like I played a lot of blackjack in a lot of different places never heard of a dealer doing Wrong math to you say I have 14 when you actually have 17. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's why that's their job That's that's hey, let's make sure these things get shuffled. Let's make sure we're Doing this right and let's make sure we get the mathuffled. Let's make sure we're doing this right. And let's make sure we got the math right. That's the biggest part of the entire thing.

Starting point is 02:02:08 I like that her gimmick is kind of like, nah, I don't do it actually. You gotta do the math. That's what you do. Do you want a card or not? I don't know, what is it? But you tell me. Ty had 21, said 12.

Starting point is 02:02:18 Yeah, because I had like four aces out there. I was like, hey, listen, Melissa, I've had 12 Jack and Cokes, all right? I'm not, you know, just tell me how many fucking I have here. Ty was like, hey, she's like, no, no, I'm just hey listen Melissa. I've had 12 Jack and Cokes all right. I'm not you know just tell me how many fucking Yeah, yeah, well there's a lot of fucking cards out there, okay, so exactly she was bullying you a little bit No, yeah Melissa was questioning your man. I'm not have your phone out not a calculator so quick math Can do it no, and I just said after that hey Melissa enough of this bullshit. Just fucking throw me the cards, okay? This isn't you know we're not at the at the Marat here in downtown Indianapolis isn't your comedy special, okay?

Starting point is 02:02:50 What she could do you know I understand this is Caesar's the st. Caesar's palace shut up and deal the cards and tell me what number and she was training she wasn't here No, she we had the our guy behind her who was kind of just like what is she doing like? Are you she thought she was right or no she knew she was wrong when she was telling you the numbers Yeah, yeah, yeah, so give me oh that is Yeah, no, no, it ain't awesome. I don't want to play at her table That's what I mean, but I like that that's the gimmick she's gone with what if I'm a blackjack dealer who tells him the wrong math? That's awesome. Think about deciding that you're real heel. Yeah, That's a real heel. She was. She's true heel out there.

Starting point is 02:03:25 Bullshit. You even, you lost, you won. Yeah. Maybe you should have been a little nicer than Melissa Gimmick. No, no, I didn't lose that much. And actually, you know what? Now that I said that, I'm coming back for scalps tonight. Okay. We got the lookout, Melissa. I want you Bob. Thank you. How we doing?

Starting point is 02:03:47 To be honest, I'm not 100% sure what part of the Super Bowl we haven't talked about 100 times. Yeah, exactly. I have a question for you actually. How has since Tony's been kicked out, how is his replacement been? It's because he's going up against Jalen Carter this week. Yeah, I'm nervous. Like, I'm nervous for him.

Starting point is 02:04:06 I mean, honestly, again, they do such a good job protecting the entire group. It's always running the football. It's always RPOs. It's always play action. Very few and far between are you ever just drop back pass. And if they feel like that's going to be an issue, you watch. They will find a way to chip Jalen Carter if need be.

Starting point is 02:04:23 They can RPO, send a tight end here, and chip here and chip on the tackle so like there's so many different ways that they can help guys on that group and they're all interchangeable it's really good with how come every coach doesn't do that or play caller do that why is Andy Reid the one who says you know what we got a little bit of an issue with our offensive line let's try to protect them a little bit maybe we try to win why is he able to do that and others aren't? They're so, listen, I mean, they want to get as many, most coordinators want to get as many guys out on a route

Starting point is 02:04:50 and the more times you keep people in to chip and help, now it's two man route. So you're two guys better win, right? That was Bruce Arrien's like famous quote, like every time we'd ask for like a chip, like, hey, we got Aaron Donald this week, can we get a fucking chip? He'd say, I tried to chip, who was the freak?

Starting point is 02:05:03 They called him the freak down in Tennessee. De'Von Curse. De'Von Curse. He's like, when I was in Pittsburgh, we chipped him. We kept this guy in. We kept this guy in. And De'Von Curse still had five sacks. Figure it the fuck out.

Starting point is 02:05:12 Win your matchup. We're getting five guys out. He's going to get to the quarterback at some point no matter what we do. Yeah. So we're going to get our guys out. At least have an opportunity to do some shit. Okay. Let's talk about a team that you know well.

Starting point is 02:05:24 Well, a team that you did know well. You were a player, a coach, and a Super Bowl champion for them, although you weren't there that long. Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Mike Greenberg, not get ups, ESPN's Mike Greenberg. Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Mike Greenberg, salary cap guru, salary cap gymnastics expert, absolute dog in piecing together rosters

Starting point is 02:05:44 and handling it all. He is not going to be the Jacksonville Jaguars GM. He has pulled his name from contention for that particular gig. Your thoughts on this? Is this Tampa Bay, Liam Cohen stuff still happening here? Or is this Greenberg not thinking he's getting a gig? What are your thoughts on this? It'll be taken that way.

Starting point is 02:05:59 But listen, that's the way they've operated all the time. They feel like if they have good people,, I know you guys mentioned it last week where you thought maybe they were doing that to shun Liam Cohen by blocking coaches from taking those jobs. Listen, the way they're looking at it, at least from the offensive line coach stuff that they did last week, is they went from bottom five in the league for the last however many years

Starting point is 02:06:20 to all of a sudden being top five in the league. They're not letting those coaches just walk. In this case. You talking about Tampa? Yeah, Tampa. Like they blocked Carberry, the O-line coach. And I think the assistant guy, they wouldn't let any of those guys.

Starting point is 02:06:29 When it comes to him, this might be a little bit of, this might be a little bit old, fuck you, Liam. Really? I don't know. Who knows? Whoa. Maybe 32 of those jobs. Yeah. And Mike Greenberg, I guess,

Starting point is 02:06:40 his name was up for a couple of the last couple of GM cycles. Jets this year too. Jets. year too. So like what he did in Tampa with Tom and everything that happened afterwards, Mike Evans deal, relationship, everything that he's done has been in the spotlight. I assume he just thinks maybe he'll get a job in the future where he doesn't care. I wonder how he actually thinks there. And what's Jacksonville going to look like? What are you going to look like?

Starting point is 02:07:02 Good question. Got a yacht out here. Yeah. Really nice yacht. That looks cool. We talked about this yacht before, because I watched a documentary. He's got a yoga gym inside of the yacht. We need to go see that. Yeah, it's in the back.

Starting point is 02:07:13 He goes down, does yoga, a cold tub, birthday yacht. You can walk right on there doing tours right now. I don't know about that. Three pools? Got to have more pools than your stadium has on a yacht. I understand that. Only two pools in the stadium down there in Duval. Is Tony Khan still involved?

Starting point is 02:07:30 Chief football strategist? Yeah, yeah. I assume he's still CFSing. Then they'll still suck. They just hired Tony Baccelli for a role down there too. He's like VP. Who was that up in Detroit? Chris Spielman?

Starting point is 02:07:40 Yeah, it's that role. Spielman has a big part of that. That type of role. So, Jacksonville still needs a general manager. Yes. New Orleans needs a head coach. Yes. That's where we're at in the top cycle.

Starting point is 02:07:53 Correct. Yep, New Orleans is done though, right? Kelly Moe. Yeah. Kelly Moe. The interesting thing about that is it'll be his first time being a head coach and he's going into a place where a lot of people think they're going to have to suck for a while because of the setup contractually. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:08:07 Is he going to get any grace, you think? I mean, you would assume so. But I mean, we do a lot of assuming. You assume when he comes in, his first opportunity, what are they going to do with Derek Carr in the foreseeable future? And obviously, we know the salary cap hell that they're in. So you would assume that we give them at least a three, four year grace period. But who knows? They'll give him grace if it looks a certain way, right?

Starting point is 02:08:27 Like if it looked like if they're not getting beat by 20 quarterback car feels like it Yeah, but there's a report that came out that said the on the Saints really really like Spencer rattler So they're kind of already setting him up. Okay, you better fucking win with this guy. Oh, who's the model? Jay Caner, okay, you can slay it that good quarterback dog Spencer was on my flight down. I got a lot of respect for Spencer. He could sling it. They had a good quarterback really. He's a dog. Spencer was on my flight down. I got a lot of respect for Spencer. He was on a Southwest flight in a middle seat basically on the flight. Spencer Rattler?

Starting point is 02:08:53 Yeah. So he got on last because Southwest you pick your... Yeah. It was awesome. Probably last minute. Just like, just blending in. I just need to get down there. I just need to get down there.

Starting point is 02:09:01 I've seen a lot of people saying if they do suck it will be the return of the Manning to New Orleans and granted Who knows that arch arch following in his grandfather arch for arch footsteps? You see the video of him windmill Duncan Yeah, yeah arch. Yes freaking nature two feet to we didn't get like a big run-up This is like just a casual jump straight up in the air He's a basketball game two weeks ago Yeah, I saw him do the fake jump shot and from that I said. Red Bull gives you wings.

Starting point is 02:09:29 Definitely not a Hooper. What? From the fake jump shot? Yeah, I didn't like it. Elbow tight? I think you can tell a lot of people guys fake. What did it look like? I missed the fake jumper.

Starting point is 02:09:37 It looked bad. It looked as bad as right there you run the first base. Whoa! I can't be true. I can't be true. That was the worst video ever. Yeah. How do we feel about that over there in Ohio?

Starting point is 02:09:47 A lot of interviews, a lot of base running. How do we feel about the post? Neil Bryan. Right. We lost both coordinators. How do you, what do you, what do you, so I did see reports, Neil Brown, like he wasn't brought in for an interview. It was a stun deal.

Starting point is 02:10:00 Yeah. I mean, I'm still pushed for Ryan Hardline. Put him in. Okay. Brian's brother. Yeah. That's Ryan and Brian. Well, he does have'm still pushed for Ryan Hardline put him in okay, Brian's brother. Yeah That's Ryan and Brian. Well, he does have a brother not Ryan. Maybe his brother's name is Ryan actually, okay So now we just offended That we definitely have met talking about we can't offend him now Brian Hardline dog. He was up for a head coach's jobs Yeah, he's allegedly the recruiter. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. He's the one that everybody enjoys being around.

Starting point is 02:10:25 He's a wide receiver developer. Yes. He coaches his ass off. That offense is going to be good. Who's going to be your quarterback? It'll be a battle coming through the spring and summer. Julian Sane, a lot of people are saying, but there's honestly two, three guys in the mix. Who are you going to say?

Starting point is 02:10:39 They lost to our line coach too. Went to the Cardinals. Yeah, Fry. How do you feel about plucking Jim Knowles from the Ohio State Buckeyes? Oh, yeah. You guys got him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 02:10:48 We're all in. Oh, that was you moving chips in. Oh, yeah. You see what I did there? Middle of the table is here, though. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it was like metaphorically. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:10:56 You're pushing the chips. All in. Is that Kraft? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we talked to him. You know that. That's Pat Crafty. He's ready.

Starting point is 02:11:02 This guy's the guy. Dude, he's the guy. This is what you would want Yeah, how are the guys we saw him on the sidelines of the Notre Dame Penn State game? He his shoulders are as This wide big 10 linebacker. That's right. Now. He's the running the ship up at Penn State shaking hands getting Massive amounts of money. Yeah, Penn State you guys feel like you're back, huh? Cuz everybody talk about Ohio State going on and they got to win it all. You guys now going all in, you got to win it all. That was a huge thing. Is that going to happen? Yeah. Coach Franklin's got to win.

Starting point is 02:11:33 Win it all or bust. Yeah, he's ready to be a guy. He's going to win it all in. Ohio State went all in. They won. Here we go. It certainly seems like if they don't win it all there's one guy to blame right? Who's that? Jimbo There's gonna be one guy to blame. He's gonna burn him. We've given it all Given them all to it. We've given them the coaches. We've given them the players. We've went all in you gotta win How do you feel about your say in the Penn State ranks at this point of being an alumni? You were the guest you're the celebrity captain Did the do it all went off the coin toss. That was cool old king of mammals. Are you in the ring of honor? I don't have one guy all fame. I don't have one what the fuck the hell they got rid of our pictures on the wall

Starting point is 02:12:15 Nice have hair. That's cool. I did have hair looks so cool. So cool. God. You look so cool Yeah, all right as a Q does the the Shipley shuffle out of here, ladies and gentlemen, joining us will be a guy who was drafted in the same draft class as me, a guy that taught me how to punt. At one point, I think he signed like a seven-year deal to be the New Orleans Saints punter, won a Super Bowl down here, and oh yeah, he's going to hit the surprise onside kick coming out of halftime. Ambush at SMU ladies and gentlemen New York Jets punter Thomas Morse I love it love the team Gleason shirt oh yeah jacked man holy shit so. Oh Jack. It's absurd. How do you get so jacked? Yeah, I love that thank you man. Yeah, I appreciate that I've been working out not as much as you but I've been working out boys are pumped to see no you see

Starting point is 02:13:14 As always here's the head shit if you can put it on Okay, so let's talk about the shirt. Let's talk about team Gleason Obviously Steve Gleason former saint former teammate of yours during the glory day I was on the other side You were yeah when you hit that little thing and then win a Super Bowl and then Remember my mom was crying in the stands. She thought I missed the kick What a duff what he just shanked it so bad. Oh no!

Starting point is 02:13:46 Shanked it 13 yards this guy. I've been watching him forever. Mom English I believe? Yup. Mom English, soccer. Jamie Cole was sitting with her so he talked her off the ledge and said there's no way he missed it that bad. Jamie Cole, kicking, punting, snapping coach, legend.

Starting point is 02:14:02 I have a lot of thanks to him and also a lot of thanks to Thomas Morstead who's been a punting coach. So I don't know what the percentage of guys that have been are in the NFL or been in the NFL over the last 20 years but basically all of them. This guy is absolute legend and with your season you are raising money for Team Gleason and ALS research I believe so we can not... It's mainly for technology to help people that are diagnosed with ALS continue to live with ALS, be able to continue to be human, be able to communicate and they also send ALS patients and their families on adventures all over

Starting point is 02:14:36 the world to continue to inspire people to keep living. They do so much. The last I checked with them, they're getting 800 applications a month for technology, for people to just, just to be able to talk. Okay, so ALS is a, and we watched Steve Gleason's story, I think from blocking punt the whole moment with Falcons all the way through. Now ALS, brain good, body stops? Is that what happens?

Starting point is 02:15:02 Like you- Yeah, so you're, basically your muscles just atrophy. They stop working and they just atrophy. Without medical intervention, most people would suffocate because you can't even continue to breathe. So you can get kind of like a pacemaker for your heart, but for your diaphragm now and basically be kind of like you're on a respirator essentially. And that's how Steve's continues to be in a chair and continues to move around. And there's no cure, right? For ALS?

Starting point is 02:15:32 Not that's known. Not that's known. So you said they're getting 800 applicants a year or a month? A month. So how many people have a lot of people have a every time I go to an ALS fundraiser and an Alzheimer's, like anything that people talk about the amount of people have ALS. Every time I go to an ALS fundraiser, and an Alzheimer's, like anything, the people talk about the amount of people that are suffering from it,

Starting point is 02:15:49 and we don't have a cure for it. It is just something that happens. There's a lot, right? And I think what's scary is that the rate of, the rate of it's growing. So more and more people are getting it for some reason. So, which is the reason for continued, I mean, other than getting support

Starting point is 02:16:04 and people hearing about Team Gleason and what they do they're getting more and more applicants because more and more people are getting diagnosed so this has just been a thing for me to do. Steve's really helped me through my own trials that I've been through in the past number of years and I want to do something to thank him. I'm like who's encouraging this guy that's doing so much good shit for people all over the world? And you just be around him for two hours and you feel kind of what he goes through, but then you go back to living your life.

Starting point is 02:16:34 That's his every day in perpetuity right now. And so I think any way that we can continue helping him be encouraged, feel loved, feel supported, he's doing so much for so many people and just him being alive is important and So it's been an honor to do it. Yeah shout to you and shout to Steve for you know being a Familiar face that people can connect with to understand the story of what's happening to everybody else with that you donated money this year Right. I remember we talked about this. Yeah, it was punts inside the 20 and you were donating money, right? And I said I would match, right? So how much have we raised? How much do we owe?

Starting point is 02:17:10 And how magical was the year? Well, the year was not magical. I thought we were going to do a lot better. Not for the Jets, but for this. It was a cool thing. I've a lot of support punters and kickers all over the league donated their jerseys after games to kind of keep weekly donations going. And yeah, so my contribution was 19,000. And if you decide to match that, that'll put us over to the $100,000 mark. I would definitely match it.

Starting point is 02:17:35 And congratulations, punters. Raising money, helping out with Team Gleason. And yeah, let's continue to innovate that technology so people can continue to live. And please tell Steve that although we have not met he has inspired all of us and he's a badass and that block was a good thing of beauty you're talking about picture perfect form I assume everything else is awesome let's talk about the season with the Jets what year are you going into this would be 17 crazy and we've talked about it you said go to the wheels fall off

Starting point is 02:18:04 and obviously have a lot of history here in New Orleans. Bounce around to a couple different teams, end up with the Jets. Now it's become a mainstay for the Jets, I feel like. Another year under contract up there with them, right? What was this year like? Chaotic? Hectic? How do you kind of view it as a guy who's been there, done that with everything from

Starting point is 02:18:18 Super Bowl to getting released and going somewhere else? I would just say it was a really weird year. We, you know, expectations are high, results weren't there, and that makes it a really kind of, it's the worst kind of season to have. You know, if you're a team that's rebuilding and you don't expect to really be that good that year, that's a different thing. We had high hopes. We had hopes of being a play in this week, this season.

Starting point is 02:18:44 It just didn't happen. And I was, you know, I was, no one wants to hear this, but I was proud of how our group stuck together. It was a tough year and being in that New York media market is something that's, I'd heard about my whole career, but I've seen it now for the past few years. And, you know, guys came to work every day and continued to grind and continued to work. And there wasn't this fracturing that I think maybe gets reported here and there. So just a tough year.

Starting point is 02:19:14 Yeah, we followed. Yeah, we did. Pretty close. It was a tough year. Tough year out there. We learned a lot in an athletic article that was reported. And then there was a lot of other things that were said. You've been in a lot of buildings.

Starting point is 02:19:26 You've been around a lot of people. Woody Johnson, this guy is a topic of conversation, especially for the New York Jets, and everything that happens. What are your thoughts on Woody Johnson? And what do we get wrong about Woody Johnson potentially from behind the scenes? Well, I don't know what you guys think are right or wrong

Starting point is 02:19:44 or what's even being said. I don't follow too much of it but I will say this, if there's one flaw that he has he's he's he's the biggest Jets fan in the world. He loves the team. I'm sassed with team. He just loves the team and and so you know that's all I would say about it. I see a little bit of stuff that's sad but honestly I'm in my own little world. I see things from a different perspective as a specialist, you know, you kind of have the blinders out a little bit, but most of the days you just go in there, do your work, and you're really only in the realm of people that you spend time with, is the guys in the locker room, and the equipment guys, the trainers, the people that you interface with every day.

Starting point is 02:20:22 So, all I know is every time I talk to him, man, all he wants to do is win. He loves the team. Yeah, he said in a press conference whenever they're introducing a new coach, which AJ has a question about, but like he talked about how I had to look in the mirror and be a better owner too.

Starting point is 02:20:35 If he's obsessed with the Jets, it would make a little bit more sense. He's around, I get questions, hey, what, what, what, what, what, what, what? I like that he loves the team though. That's good news. I like that he seemingly wants him to be great too, which you know Not every owner seemingly wants to do so nonetheless big turnover transition time for the Jets AJ has a question for you

Starting point is 02:20:52 Yeah, Thomas obviously Aaron Glenn comes in there great player for the Jets and he seems like embody everything that the New York Jets want To be have you had any interaction with them? And what do you think of the higher? I've texted with him a little bit them and what do you think of the hire? I've texted with him a little bit. Biggest thing I would say that I could speak on is he was our cornerbacks coach in New Orleans for my last four years there and then he obviously left with Dan Campbell to go to Detroit and so the thing I remember about him again not a ton of one-on-one time or things like that. He was super professional. Just very, very professional guy. And I'm a huge Dan Campbell fan, so I've kind of watched

Starting point is 02:21:31 the Lions path over the past four years. And so I've seen a lot of AG on the TV. And I know for the past few years, Dan's really hyped him up as, look, I hope we never lose him, because he's great he's a great coach but at some point somebody's gonna have to give an opportunity because he's he's gonna be a head coach in this league so I think just from a personal side everybody that's in this business is striving to get to some goal and for him to be able to get a head coaching opportunity with the team that drafted him I mean that's like storybook shit

Starting point is 02:22:02 that's really cool so it's pretty cool, we're excited to watch it all unfold. We can't thank you enough for stopping by. Thanks for raising money for a great cause and keep going, man. And thanks for everything you did for me, buddy. I appreciate you. My favorite jersey swap of all time is the Pat McPhee number one jersey.

Starting point is 02:22:16 It just says Thomas, you're my favorite punter. I got that one up in the house. So I appreciate you, Pat. You are, man. You taught me how to do it. Ladies and gentlemen, Thomas Morse Day. Yeah, Thomas. Thomas. Thomas. Come on. Come on, buddy. I appreciate you are man. He taught me how to do it ladies and gentlemen Thomas Morse day

Starting point is 02:22:33 Hey a lot of good times down here, huh, we're live we're live we're live I was excited. Yeah, who knows where he said he said are you staying? He was about to make a bunch of Recommendations I assume the other's in a great place as AQ, Shipley Shuffle takes place as he joins us back here. Hey, thanks for coming back, AQ. I almost heard the Stone Cold music as I saw him turn the corner.

Starting point is 02:22:58 He's a big punter. Huge, right? I didn't know he was that tall. Huge. And you should see his workouts. His workouts are acid. He had a shaker. He shows up with a shaker shaking up drinking some kind of protein and the offseason He goes and lives up at altitude in Colorado somewhere and he like runs trails and shit

Starting point is 02:23:12 I mean, he's just like he is all just how hairy is. Oh, yeah rocky for workouts. Yeah So I want he like taught me how to punt like actually taught me form and everything like that and He did he went about doing his stuff so much different than me, but the form was kind of all the same. I went to a camp in the off-season with Jamie Cole, and we were just going to have a morning session with some of the NFL guys. And I may or may not have shut it down the night before. As you do.

Starting point is 02:23:41 In Wisconsin. I'm glad. Don't get to see these people all the time. It's good to see you guys. Let's chit chat. Let's have a good time here in Whitewater in Wisconsin. Yeah I'm glad. You know don't get to see these people all the time like it's good to see you guys. Let's chit chat. Let's have a good time here in Whitewater Wisconsin. I believe great town. Good times. Good nice little bars. Hard to get out there at night though not a lot of Ubers and stuff. Sure. But I had one. Great D3 school. Wasn't the only one. Yeah definitely. Great setup. I mean it was a fantastic place. So we do that. We go out like 830, 9am

Starting point is 02:24:03 we're gonna go hit something you know and that's a good place to like kinda work on some stuff, watch somebody else do their stuff. I assume this is what quarterbacks do, I assume this is what tacklers do, everything like that. And also, you know, compete a little bit, let's go ahead and do this. I get there, Thomas Morse did. Houses, like three pre-workouts, okay?

Starting point is 02:24:20 Starts flipping tires on a sideline, flipping tires down a thing. How did it, hammer, I don't know where the fuck. Hitting, they think 35 minutes I watched him do a workout to warm up, and I was just sitting there the entire time. To warm up. To warm, this is to warm up,

Starting point is 02:24:37 and then he had music blaring, and then you see him on the jets on hard knocks, he sprints the length of the field before he goes out and does a kickoff, or a punt, or a hold hold or whatever it's like. He is whenever it comes like his workouts and stuff super intense but that's why he's able to blow up 17 years. We have to have the same class.

Starting point is 02:24:53 He's having more than double my career and I love him and his Gleason stuff is crazy. ALS is crazy. Yeah, it's the worst. It is. That's something you would think like Neuralink would be involved with going forward. Hopefully. How about them saying the big issue is your body becomes like like it like jokes you eat Yeah, it's not really a brain thing. I don't the scariest thing. Yeah, your brain remains exactly. So you're right

Starting point is 02:25:14 Yeah, you just don't have the muscle even to speak like it's what Lou Gehrig's disease I mean, that's what it is like that. It's the scariest thing you think of yeah, and you're watching this Gleason It's like that. It's the scariest thing you think of. Yeah And you're watching this Gleason story is his life expectancy like he is outlived it by fire I went to a Pearl Jam concert in like 2015 at Wrigley Field and they brought Steve Gleason up on stage and he said like, you know He introduced one of the songs he was like I feel better today than I I did like when I was playing football He's just it's wild ten years from then. What's a pro jam song that I would know or D but you know even flow? to keep going

Starting point is 02:25:54 That's them yeah Yeah, D, but you know, yeah, what? You know you too I Know the bottom of the cat Bottom of that thing I got chance to see a live 3060k what was it last year 60 K Thousand expectations were too high this time last year no doubt this time last year. He was sitting in a full NHL Vegas night. Oh, yeah, and we were going that night to yes see Are you still a member of the Las Vegas Golden Knights?

Starting point is 02:26:38 Yeah, yeah, I just honestly you just you know wait for the fucking boys to call on you and you show up So and I don't know you know I think I want to say they're first in the Western Conference right now You know no big deal well Maybe not maybe the fucking Winnipeg Jags jets are up there, but how are the Panthers I saw there at the White House I would assume we're cooking I think gum so we got a loss last night. We've been cooking. I hear first Let's go to the back. Let's go to the back of the set here at Radio Row Hey gumps are the Panthers good gumps. Yep Yeah, they're still good tough loss last night, but they're all right keep scanning to that whole island there fuck boy

Starting point is 02:27:14 Yeah, I mean that's Billy coating YouTube back there dumpy obviously splunking that three entire Talks not a laptop. No, that's his home rig. Pack that thing. I don't go anywhere without it. He takes it everywhere he goes. He got dirty, obviously sitting next to Talk, getting the job done. And then there's D-Bone. Looks good.

Starting point is 02:27:33 You know, and that's, look at him. Yup. D-Bone's at Super Bowl. Mids playing slime soccer. I was going to say Mids on Miniclip.com. And that's, hey, that's mid football. And then on the other side, Fox Foxy go back to you guys there. It's a hell of a setup.

Starting point is 02:27:47 The people that did this did a fantastic job. You got Foxy, Zito, and Nick on the far side. Right next to Nick is a curtain there. There is other people less than three inches from Nick's arm right there. They're getting weird. Nick's in it. Like a different show? Great work boys.

Starting point is 02:28:02 You guys did a great job with CFO Phil sitting up there, housing, coffee, overseeing. Zito, good setup, I think. I love it. Foxy, how do you, okay, that's good. That's glowing. Hell yeah. That is a glowing review. Foxy, how's it been?

Starting point is 02:28:16 One of the smoothest sets we've had in so long, I feel like. Wow. Look at this. Wow. Barcode NT. The whole set, like, I just look around, I keep, did you know that there's a drum on the front of your NT. Yeah. The whole set. I just look around. I keep note. Did you know that there's a drum on the front of your desk?

Starting point is 02:28:28 Yeah. Actual drum? Yeah. I just saw it. The actual Subbo trophy, too. That's a drum. I think you could play that thing. You could.

Starting point is 02:28:35 It's not as big as Purdue's. Is that the real Dims, IQ? It's heavy. It's heavy. I thought it was going to be like hollow. It's not hollow. The lantern above your head like just did the detail It's class. This is mystic scenic studio. I believe is the company they did the same

Starting point is 02:28:51 This is the same frame. I was a gator out of football Here's a guy Here's a guy to hear true guy. Can we eat that gator couple guys? troopers Hey, they clean. Yes, so the best I wonder if you can't be fat because it's too hot down here Yeah, so where that costume I'm sure we can find one or two There's always one or two yeah, but they're like probably administrative at desk guys

Starting point is 02:29:33 Administrative not in the not on the road I think it's way too hot to just if you had to be in a that uniform and mobile to be fat It's too hot down here. Yeah, it's like Arizona. It'd be tough to be fat in Arizona, but There's no there's no humidity in Arizona. You can get away with things in here. It's 125 in the summer It doesn't matter. You don't sweat. Are you doing a chef thing down here? No, no chef thing. You don't sweat? You don't sweat in the summer. No, because it literally evaporates That's why so many people like They'll go hiking and they're not sweating so they're like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

Starting point is 02:30:05 And they're not drinking water. And they pass out. Heat exhaustion. Yep. Boom. Dead. Dead. Rest in peace to them. Yeah. Rest in peace. I guess. Fools, but they should still rest in peace. Absolute fools. Humpback, right?

Starting point is 02:30:17 Camelback. Camelback. Humpback. Close. Well, they got humpbacks. Humpback whales out in the ocean. Up in the Camelback. Yeah, you know, in top Camelback you see see the humpbacks. That's what we're talking about. Yeah. H, favorite thing thus far since we got down here in New Orleans? Well, I saw a few people cruising the halls that, you know, we get to see at Super Bowl every year. Good to see Glazer. I

Starting point is 02:30:37 haven't made the rounds exactly yet, but I'd say right now Trey Henderson coming in here and Fred Warner. Fred Warner honestly is one of my favorite players in the NFL might be my favorite player Yeah, I thought so it was great to have him on is your favorite Mormon I mean, I guess I I haven't put him into categories yet Like haven't said favorite more Brady Pippen go was a guy I played with so he's your favorite more five year five years Roommate home-and-away games. He really schooled me up on what's so Fred Warner top five Mormon in that way Yeah, definitely top three. Oh Kyle Kyle VanNoy up there too? Kyle VanNoy's up there.

Starting point is 02:31:06 I don't even know all my friends that are Mormons. Andy Reid. Andy Reid's a great Mormon. Is he a great Mormon? Is that your top Mormon? Is he a great Mormon? I think so. Andy Reid?

Starting point is 02:31:17 Is he a Jack Mormon? He's done great things. He's a Mormon. It's cool. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. A lot of Italians coaching here. The all Italian bowl, you might as well say, for the Philadelphia Eagles. You, as you got big Dom running things

Starting point is 02:31:28 Sirianni doing his thing Vic Fangio who was Fangio over not too long ago. You guys kicked him out of Miami Ran him out of town. What's that all about? Toughness, you know, it's relationship business, you know, sometimes guys just don't mess me rooms Don't mess personalities players scheme. Honestly, what it was don't mess, meeting rooms don't mess, personalities, players. Was it scheme? Honestly, why didn't it, was it, his scheme didn't fit a soft organization. I don't know what it was, I know part of it,

Starting point is 02:31:50 I know Jalen Ramsey, he wanted to follow and be kind of that guy, be around the ball a little bit more. He is very scheme specific, been running a similar scheme for a long, long time, but shit, he landed on his feet in Philly and it's been working wonders so far. Gumpy, you think that says more about the Dolphins or Vic Fangio?

Starting point is 02:32:07 I think it's a little of both. We lost six of our starting defensive players at the end of last season as well. So we had nobody going into Kansas City, but nobody remembers that. Well, you guys blame Vic Fangio, though. That's a good point. We had Bruce Irving, who we signed like 24 hours

Starting point is 02:32:21 for the game out there. I love Bruce. Let's go ahead and remember West Virginia legend here. He was a great player. Athlete. Justin Houston was a great player. There was a lot of players that used to be great though. So why is Vic Fangio getting blamed?

Starting point is 02:32:33 Why does he get run out of time? The players just didn't like him. Jalen Ramsey, Javon Hall, and both didn't like him. I don't know why. Okay, that goes back to is this more about the Dolphins or is this more about Vic Fangio? I'd say a little both Anthony we've had a good year. Yeah, he did. He was very good. Oh, yeah, the Dolphins were lurking that whole time Lurking that whole time. What happens with the Dolphins? I mean Tyree Hill put out a groundbreaking tweet

Starting point is 02:32:58 So hopefully he did. What'd he say Gumps? He, I hope we add better players and win more games. Holy shit! Do you agree? And I couldn't fucking agree more. I never fucking thought of that. I never thought of winning more games. That's great. Retweet Gumps, maybe you guys will be in Super Bowl next year.

Starting point is 02:33:18 I close with it for sure. We're only 20 million over the cap going into next year. A lot of spots to fill, we'll be fine. Hey, Super Bowl 60 though could be the Dolphins. Could be! lot of spots to fill. We'll be fine. Hey, Super Bowl 60, though, could be a Dolphins. Could be. We got Mariotta coming in to be backup. Shepter pushing Mariotta was interesting. Dude, that was wild.

Starting point is 02:33:30 Yeah. I'm like, wow, I love Ust. That was like a crazy one. He thought that was like league changing. Well, I saw somebody posted about fantasy football conversation. I'm like, what? Who is?

Starting point is 02:33:38 Are we missing something? Fools. Maybe. That's where the Dolphins are now, though. Is Tua good? Are we good to go for Tua all season? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's healthy. Of course. His hip's good.'s head's good. We're not worried about his head anymore, which is good

Starting point is 02:33:48 No, I'll miss six games next year, but you know, no he won't He's gonna be healthy next year. Yeah, I'm tell he's up but but I agree he's gonna start like gangbusters What about Anthony Richardson? Let me tell you a thought I had the other day on Anthony rich. Okay I'm sitting here. I'm scrolling. I saw something. I said, you know what, this guy's so young. This guy's got such good opportunity and promise ahead. This guy one got the laser thing done like Josh Allen did. Look at NFL. Anthony Richardson is the next NFL MVP. That's what's going to happen next year. Love it. Anthony Richardson is going to win the MVP. This this young guy gotta figure it out this offseason

Starting point is 02:34:26 I can already tell I haven't heard anything from his team haven't seen anything But I can just tell in my heart of hearts that he's got figured out I could be wrong, but I think he's younger than should err and cam ward Yep, and will Howard and Quinn years and all those guys exactly young not see any years to get better not seeing anything's almost better They're not doing the hype videos. No Me they're just doing the work just doing the work and he's so young he could still learn Yeah, I'm all in bingo look out for a our five next year. Oh winning the MVP 2025

Starting point is 02:34:59 Possibly you a are five bingo look at I mean it's all kind of written in the stars The NFL is at a place that is so strong that it's gonna be hard for anybody to catch up You know people talk about the NBA's ratings and they talk about the NHL's ratings. They talk about baseball existing I don't hear anybody talk about baseball ratings. Have you ever know so good that you don't I couldn't even guess the number of people that Watch games like what's the what's the expected a hundred thousand? theme number of people that watch games like what's he expecting a hundred thousand I would assume this past year was probably the biggest World Series they've had in a long time Oh because Shohei's in there, Dodgers Yankees, Skeens is a star What about game to game though? What about regular season game? It doesn't matter

Starting point is 02:35:36 I guess there's so many of them yeah because World Series averaged 15.8 That's a good number. Huge! But the season there's no like in my head for the regular season I couldn't even come if it's not a primetime game if it's just happening. What is a number very local market? Yeah, I would say like Dodgers probably have huge numbers Tables the size of a thimble How long have you been waiting to roast that side Since I fucking saw the skater couldn't fit, you know, it does look cool. It does look cool I would say like Dodgers probably do huge numbers Yankees probably do huge numbers mats

Starting point is 02:36:13 pirates no Definitely not Braves maybe but like outside of that Phillies I guess was probably pretty big too, but outside of that I very cubs. Maybe it goes up How do they make so much money? Ticket sales. Selling hats. Well, that too. I got on the buckles right now.

Starting point is 02:36:29 I'm selling hats. Think about the amount of hats. And 80 home games a year. That's good. The ice cream and the helmet. Concessions. Ice cream and the helmet. They eat out of it.

Starting point is 02:36:37 Oh, man. Definitely. Baseballs. ESPN games were $1.6 million per game. On Sunday night, you're saying? No, all ESPN games. that's not true. What? Okay. All right. No, I heard it was 2.6 gump. I mean, TJL is doing that number. You think TJL numbers out if you say average. Yeah, if we're taking 50, if we're taking 15 mil,

Starting point is 02:36:59 you ask, okay, gump, I'll let you finish. If we're going to take 15. Also, let me finish. We take 15 mil for the World Series game You're putting that into the games that have 22,000 watching that mail was on Fox He said on ESPN you asshole the series was on fucking Fox even okay Then it holds even lesser value than what he said. I guess national TV ratings both ESPN and fall. I'm not even listening ratings both ESPN and Fox. I'm not even listening. I'm not even listening. Can you put it behind me over here? And I love baseball. The Reds are going to be great this year. They're going to win it all. ESPN's summer night baseball finished the season with its most watched season. That's primetime, Pat. That's a primetime game. With average audience of 1.5 million

Starting point is 02:37:39 plus 6% increase year over year, Fox's audience was consistent with last year's average 1.8 slightly Up from last year they for 4,000 more that's pretty good Meanwhile MLB games that I've just one of increased 9% of the average audience at 370 so that's probably the one right? Average that's probably that 375 is probably what Sunday nights product. That's legit like Sunday night baseball's fun to look at good Those are good matchups Those are cool anyway sports still dominate if you look at the NBA's numbers and compared against other things that are happening that aren't sports NBA still Doing great

Starting point is 02:38:10 NHL still doing great if you were to compare it to like a show Baseball still doing great if you're compared to a show the NFL got 4.7 million viewer average for the Pro Bowl games and Disaster it was a blowout and it was a lot of things. Drake May was in it. No offense Drake May. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You do not have to throw that in there.

Starting point is 02:38:30 You do not have to throw that in there. He threw a great pick six, also some great touchdowns. He was. That's unfair. Why? That's unfair what you're doing right now. But I agree it's awesome that sports are all the way up. Let me reiterate or clarify what I meant by that.

Starting point is 02:38:44 When Drake May was announced to go to the Pro Bowl, it prompted people like JJ watt to say, let's just call it the participation bowl, please. Let's not call it the pro bowl. So no matter what is out on the field, it can be flag football. It can be a tug of war. It can be a punt perfect, which was the most exhilarating and electrifying part of the entire thing the great football race It could be the football race Obviously where Michael Parson blows right through the Big cool spike. Yeah, it could be well, that's Thursday night. So with that being said, let's strictly talk about Sunday 4.7 million viewers is a huge number massive and this is exactly why people say why people say, you know, let's just get rid of the Pro Bowl.

Starting point is 02:39:26 They never will. They're going to continue to try to tweak with this particular thing. But if you're getting almost 5 million, on the Sunday, that is not supposed to be anything. That's just the Sunday in between championship weekend and Super Bowl weekend, let alone whenever they add another game and another bye week and then the Pro Bowl games continue to go. The NFL's numbers are only going up and up That projected salary cap of 275 is only going to get more and more and more with these TV deals The NFL is king a Q Shipley and this weekend is basically a celebration of that as they'll topple another number that nobody's ever seen

Starting point is 02:39:56 Before the ratings are always insane, especially for the Super Bowl. Do you think that number ever stops? Or it's just gonna go forever. It has to stop at some point No, because the game is getting more global and we get more women and young ladies into the game. Oh my God, I didn't even think about that. I would assume it just keeps going up. You're talking about what's going on with flag football and the high school level and the international level,

Starting point is 02:40:16 Olympics, all that type of shit. You would assume, and you know the average football for the day one football fans aren't going anywhere. I completely forgot about the fact that, I just assumed America would get stagnant at some point. I agree. But we are at such an early point of this girls flag football. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:40:33 And I there's people that get mad at me for talking about this that was happening on Sunday. I was having a lunch date with my wife Cheesecake Factory. Fantastic. No sound on TV though. Just TV. Okay. And I'm watching this flag football girls high school showcase flag football game. The NFC is dominating the NFC.

Starting point is 02:40:51 So normally that'd be an immediate what are we doing here? But literally nothing can't change channel and it's on right in front of our face. So I started watching the shit I was seeing. I'm like, hey, they're playing ball out here. Zoom in on safeties, reading the formation formation making checks. They're doing audibles They have pitch read through I'm like I Didn't know I did not know they were playing ball like they are Checking audibles deep shots now are they gonna overthrow? Yes, is there shit? Yeah, it's high school football, right?

Starting point is 02:41:19 It's high school football let alone that it's girls or boys. They're not like pros at this point. This is high school. It was like, I was incredibly impressed at the level of this shit at this stage, let alone where it's going to go. You know, I was very lucky and we got a chance to showcase a teaser yesterday. Like I was very lucky to be a part of that NFL commercial spot and principal P is the dog. He hates those kids. Sure.. Principal P ain't got time for these kids. These kids don't understand. But he loved adding girls flag football as a varsity sport. And then as you're kind of learning about what the mission is, it's like, hey, they want this in all 50 sports.

Starting point is 02:41:55 And it's like, why not? If you have a football field on the field and they have the setup, they have the rules, they have the champions, they understand it all. It's like football might be just getting started with a very large portion of people just going forward let alone where we're at now. It's like I guess the game can only continue to grow. That's a whole other half of the population that I think can see themselves potentially playing or the future playing.

Starting point is 02:42:19 And it's being an Olympic sport. It's like yeah, I think the Olympics are huge. Huge. Olympic sport it's like yeah yeah I think the Olympics are huge yeah huge because now every every guy that global sitting there is like daughter's playing football now that's all I could think of when I saw she's going to the Olympics when I saw they were running this direct snap to running back who was also a quarterback option play with a bite pitch and then that person would sneak out into the flat and then they're running this other one and then the quarterback had to decide whether

Starting point is 02:42:47 run it or throw it. I'm like, there's a lot happening in that one play right there. Like there's a lot of reading that has to happen. There's a lot of pitching that has to happen. There's a lot of everything. All I could think of was Mackenzie going crazy out there. Just Mackenzie, I think she's a lefty. So just like scooping and like moving.

Starting point is 02:43:00 I'm like, yes, we are going to do that for sure. I think it's great. I think the game's in a great spot. I do, too. I think Covid was the only year probably in the last 50 years, maybe, that the salary cap has gone down. Right. I mean, that's the only reason. Like, that's the only way we can expect it ever to drop again. So it's just going to go. All right. People are going to boycott Super Bowl.

Starting point is 02:43:19 Oh, we'll see the numbers. Yeah. You think bigger than ever? I think so. That's been the trend for everything. You think bigger than ever? I think so. That's been the trend for everything. I think. Yeah. It might, there might be like a little dip if the chiefs go again, but that's only just because people don't want to wash the cheese.

Starting point is 02:43:33 But to your point, like more girls with Taylor Swift and everything are going to still watch. So it might just even eat itself out. Are we going to get to the point where people are, are just understand that like she's good. It's good that she's a fan of the NFL. No, no people hate her. No, they're locked in right now. Whatever they feel they're locked in. Minds don't change.

Starting point is 02:43:50 Why? Just like politics probably. Cause whether they don't like her music or whether they don't like the fact that they even show her during the game. Like those people who hate that are always going to hate her. Yeah, but why can't you just like see it as good for a league? Okay.

Starting point is 02:44:03 I don't know. I don't know. All right. I don't think they think that broadly. Well, to be honest, But why can't you just like see it as good for a leak? I don't think they think that broadly well to be honest I think it has something to do with the ocean in the Sun Reflects I haven't really been able to figure that one out. I can't do anything out. I've been able to as people yelling I love that a lot of excitement. No juice. Oh, there's some good juice guys got sunglasses on Let me see this guy. Let me see this guy. That's Bruce Brown. That is the guy.

Starting point is 02:44:30 Bruce out there directing traffic. Great, 35 minutes. Oh, okay. That's not the right spot, I don't think. Is that the Oikos booth? I don't know. No way. Oikos yogurt? Yeah. Thanks,. No way. Oikos yogurt? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:44:45 Thanks, sir. There's Philly right there. I'll tell you why, he's John's got a good shot. Who is that? Who's on there, you think? Phil Jackson. Could be Phil Jackson. That's Les Snead right there.

Starting point is 02:44:55 Right in the triangle. That's who? Les Snead? Les something. Les Snead and Ramsey? No, Les Snead. Les Bowen. Les Bowen, I think, is his name.

Starting point is 02:45:04 He's a Philly reporter. Les Snead in 60 years. Who's Snead. Les Bowen. Les Bowen, I think, is his name. He's a Philly reporter. Les Snead in 60 years. Who's this guy? That's a radio station in Philadelphia. Got to be. Hold on. This guy.

Starting point is 02:45:13 Look at this guy right here. That guy's, yep, I agree. That Field Yates. That's what I was going to say. I agree. Field. That's a man in a field. I love everything about that.

Starting point is 02:45:22 Shout out to local reporters, by the way, covering the sport. The passion that is brought every single day to cover one team. Absolutely bananas. Place is filling up pretty good. Yeah, it is. Big time. It's going to be a madhouse the next two days. AJ Francis is here.

Starting point is 02:45:36 Shout out to AJ. Oh, yeah. I saw him out there. Pop, dolla. Pujada, not nada. Top, dolla. It is filling up. Holy shit. Don't go here. Find on go down at NXT last night. Welcome back. Don't go back.

Starting point is 02:45:52 Don't don't know. Yeah, you're right. Right in time for media. I even think about that. Yeah, look out. that is real cyber Yeah, you yeah Look at the money you say the moxie on die. I gotta see what we're too much, but don't do that I mean, we think it's painted on come on, but that's his face looks like cool. He actually doesn't even shave That's that's guys goofball. Oh Listen, we definitely don't like him as much as we like don't go there if on don't go this guy's cool

Starting point is 02:46:26 Yeah, you should you should see the run he had the butt. Oh he but rivaled the tribal chief. You don't think that's real You don't think that's real Now I'm looking at it again. Yeah, yeah, super real for sure. I'm sorry to think his whole face Is it real what you think it's a mask? Is that one of those masks that they say celebrities and politicians wear what? AJ you talk about the internet says you're talking about the mass that the old man mass that we have you're talking about one of those Yeah, I got one too Yeah, those are clones. They're not masks. That guy's not a clone. Okay, that's on a mass That's his face and he actually doesn't even have to shave it. That's the way his hair grows naturally

Starting point is 02:47:05 That's what I've been told and stops right there. And then it's it's got a crisp great line. I brought It's war paint but just natural his hair and on the other side don't go don't worry about that saying he's Steve Austin He's got it. All right, we're gonna get the hell out of here. We'll be back tomorrow What a time Good to be here. Who'll be back tomorrow. What a time. What a time. Good to be here. Who do we have tomorrow? We have a big day tomorrow.

Starting point is 02:47:29 We have Puka, Jaden Daniels, Eden Hutchinson. Wow. That's a good lineup. Good lineup. Yeah. I'd say. Hey, Q, are you going to be here tomorrow? Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 02:47:39 You doing that chef thing? I've tried to ask you a couple of times in conversation. I've said no. What do you mean? What chef? I've said no a couple of times. times. Why aren't you doing it? What's the chef's thing? So he does it every year.

Starting point is 02:47:48 It might be a little bad blood here. Different group now. Because now you got bad blood. Different group. COVID put them out. So different group bought it. They're running it. Now that guy that used to run the one that I used to do does one out actually in Phoenix.

Starting point is 02:48:03 At the... It's called Taste of the Tour now because of the waste management open out there. Is that this week? Yeah, it is. He was there. He slept in bunk beds with somebody because his little, his group. Top bunk. Ain't that right?

Starting point is 02:48:16 Thunderbirds? Yeah, T-Birds. The T-Birds run that thing, right? Yeah, T-Birds. Hell yeah. Is this your first year as a member of the T-Birds running the waste management? Yep. Are you guys excited about how things are going?

Starting point is 02:48:25 Wait, why are you sleeping in bunk beds? No, it's not bunk beds. But we stay up there. It's late night, early morning. No, you said you guys sleep naked, except in your red jackets and the blue jackets. Blue jackets, blue jackets. Same fucking thing.

Starting point is 02:48:37 Same thing. Yeah, so it's not bunk beds, but it is. You guys are twin beds next to each other. Yeah, basically. Is it true that you sat down? It's like training camp. And you put your balls in the 17th green hole? I did not do that.

Starting point is 02:48:48 I thought that was initiation. Tradition. No. Fire answer down there. Who'd you sleep next to? A guy snored? Darcy Hortichuk, enforcer in the NHL. Hortichuk?

Starting point is 02:48:56 Hortichuk was there. He's got a busted nose for sure. What if he snores so loud? Wow. I snore too. You guys got a TV in there? TV. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:49:04 Got a little kitchenette. It's nice. Nice. What do you do with your lotion? You just kind of say turn over? What? One of those things where you do your thing, he does his thing and nothing else. That was wild. I don't know how it works. I'm asking a question. What happened? I don't know, you sounded like he was talking from experience with you, maybe. I don't know what that was. It's just a question.

Starting point is 02:49:28 Look, I know what you like to do in your hotel rooms. So I'm just asking in this situation. This man can't help himself. So what you do? You guys are plying the course in the morning and stuff like that, the T-Birds? Why you got to stay here? No, we run all the venues and stuff.

Starting point is 02:49:39 So all the sweet areas, we got to make sure everything's everybody's happy. OK, so you're filling up. Everybody's got a different job. What was your job? I got a couple venues on the 18th hole, overlooking the winning putt. To do what?

Starting point is 02:49:50 We gotta get drinks in here? Yeah, so if like anybody needs anything, I make sure everybody's happy, wheeling and shaking hands. Are you on call this weekend? You're like Big Dumb. No, no, no, when I get back, I get a hall pass. You're in the service industry there?

Starting point is 02:50:00 You're in the service industry. Thing wouldn't go on without us. What are you doing? We love the T-Bird. Amen. What do you get from being a t-bird you get to do that volunteer feel me get to donate 17 million dollars to the city of Phoenix okay so I got it you get to be a good person that's awesome it is fulfillment D but you get to skip the line they have my t-bird bitch okay you go house cup or something you do got a house cup cuz I know you guys wear that

Starting point is 02:50:24 no kind of watch anything you want which is kind of cool too just go walk up on You go house cup or something. You do got a house cup? I know you guys wear that belt. Kind of watch anything you want, which is kind of cool too. Just go walk up on people. Do you guys walk up here with a T-Birdstein? No, we don't have one of those. Can you get hammered while you're working here? Get off your drinks. Okay.

Starting point is 02:50:37 Have a good time. Good time. Oh, I can't wait for you to be in the hospitality tent and beat the shit out of some patron because you've had one too many. Yeah, because those kids like slide down They get hammered. It's a party. Yeah, it is a party So you got to deal with a bunch of booze bags out there a lot of you guys love it

Starting point is 02:50:50 That's that's right where the T-birds won. Yeah, that's right. We like to we like to have fun But also we like to make the world a better place. That's right. That's T-birds. That's right Anybody's getting out of line you're out of here. Oh, you guys are kicking people out people out you guys can kick him out Yeah, yeah, I got two hours of post time to like literally crowd enforcement Yes! Help helping police out on Saturday night You're staying in post? No, I got two post sessions. Yeah four hours of post

Starting point is 02:51:13 Do you take them down? Do you take people down like spear them or just point them out? Yeah you can Yeah, you work with Scottsdale PD, Phoenix PD So they give you a taser? No, no I wish I had that Give it nine minutes You don't think? No, no, I wish I had that. That'd be awesome. They give it in their cleats. You don't think?

Starting point is 02:51:27 Give them guns. Actually, yeah, I got a clock. Yeah. Shoot him in the leg. Just stays at the post. He just puts it right to the temple. Hey, I'm not playing. I'm a Thunderbird.

Starting point is 02:51:35 You know? So do you guys go through training? They show you videos of what's allowed, who you're allowed to kick out, who you're not allowed to kick out. All at your discretion. Oh my god. The Thunderbird's got a lot of power.

Starting point is 02:51:44 A lot of power. You got a bunch of booze bags rolling around a golf course and all of a sudden you got a blue jacket on it don't you look at me sideways yeah that's right I know who a Q's kicking out who's that who's that con let's just, it's not me. That's him, D-Bud. He's so damn close. He's so damn D-Bud. Because he's an athlete or something. That's the problem. I don't know. Exactly. Hey, kid, would you like to clarify anything that was just said about you?

Starting point is 02:52:13 This is like a Hulk Hogan situation. No, this is just typical con, man. Typical con, man. What? Pouring gas on the fire. What fire? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There wasn't a fire.

Starting point is 02:52:23 You actually started one. Yeah. I do believe but that's it I'll tell you what it's great to be down here in New Orleans and Let's enjoy it all footballs for everybody football is awesome football is gonna grow 126 million was the viewers last year Super Bowl 4.7 million on a flag football game. I assume it's gonna do big but what does that mean? Who's doing it numbers? AJ doesn't believe any of it. TGL last night? Huge.

Starting point is 02:52:46 Great game. So good. Blowout. Great match. Foxy, you watch every single time. Yeah, I missed this one, though. It was an absolute blowout again. There's only been one good match.

Starting point is 02:52:55 Last night it was 6 to 2. The Boston Golf Club lost. Sorry, I would have switched my camera, but it's on Gump right now. OK, well, Gumpy doesn't deserve credit for that take, because Gumpy isn't watching TGO No, Austin team stinks. They lose every time every team loses every time Yeah, I believe LA is undefeated and last night was the debut of Tommy Fleetwood. LA is Alexis Ohana Hans team

Starting point is 02:53:16 Yeah, you read it. It is in Serena. Yeah. Yeah, I believe they are founders of that particular team. We must say If we're talking TGO, rest in peace to Tiger Woods' mom. Yes. That moment at last week's TGO, where Tiger looks at her and has that moment. Here's the video. Hey mom! Not gonna suck tonight.

Starting point is 02:53:41 Okay? Just like a childlike interaction with his mom so happy that that got captured obviously she passed away so rest in peace to mama woods obviously massive piece of one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport and i'm happy tiger got to have that moment on TGO legitimately now i assume it's going to be difficult for tiger to walk into the TGO arena a lot, because last time he, you know? But nonetheless, TGO is still happening. And it's only getting better.

Starting point is 02:54:13 They should have took this week off. I would assume there's not many more weeks left, because it's like once they get into the players and masters. What happened in golf? Something happened in golf. Big news. Rory. Rory won Pebble Beach.

Starting point is 02:54:22 I watched that. Minus 21. There's an exemption for, so the, was news. Rory, Rory won Pebble Beach. OK, I watched that. He 20, minus 21. 18. There's an exemption for, so the, was it the USGA, who runs the US Open, said they will give an exemption to a live player in the top three, I believe. In the top three in live rankings. Yes, live points.

Starting point is 02:54:39 Got it. So everybody's thinking this is going to be Disham Bro. Or Rambo. Yeah, Rambo. Does anybody know the live rankings? Well, Ram wrong already has it I see now I would assume so to has Rom or I don't day shambo one a US open because you already have an exemption if you've won it in the past and this is not the PJ this is the USGA yes which is different group remember because US opens golf course is always so terrible

Starting point is 02:55:02 and it's always the huge USGA is basically because of the US Open. USGA is basically the organization that keeps track of everyone's handicap in the entire world basically. Got mine. Yeah. What's your handicap? I haven't checked it yet. I think around 12, 11, 12.

Starting point is 02:55:17 Pretty good. That's bad. That's not bad. What about you, Akush? I'm like an 8'2 right now. Geez. Really? I thought you quit. I just... I take enough swings where whenever I do go out I'm alright. You still get lessons? Good

Starting point is 02:55:34 enough. Yeah. So I go like once a week or once every other week to like get 200 swings in and then when I do go on the course. Once a week you're going to a lesson and you have an 8.2. You're a golfer buddy. That's a full-time golfer. Yeah. He's a T-bird now. lesson and you have an 8.2. You're a golfer buddy. That's a that's full-time golfer Yeah, he's a deeper now. There's no time for it. And he but she's pulled up 11.4. Okay Wow, so what do you shoot naked if you go? What's the range that you can you can choose? That's the problem I mean I can 77 to 92

Starting point is 02:56:00 Just make sense because why you're 80 right? Yeah, you'd be sitting. Yep. So, perfect range. 77 to 93 maybe? Or 83? Let's see where I'm at. Yeah I mean I mean typically I'm like 82 to 84. That's really good. Somewhere in that range. It doesn't work completely like that. It's all based on like how hard the course is to. The slope. Slope. So you can go shooting 82 but it's at Oakmont and they'll put you at like a 3.2. You're playing at Oakmont? No, but like hard courses, there's hard courses in Arizona. Dude, Oakmont, there is hard courses in Arizona.

Starting point is 02:56:31 This year. Arizona's beautiful. The U.S. opens at Oakmont? Oh yeah. I love that. That's East Hills and Pittsburgh, baby. That's over by Plum. Eight-five.

Starting point is 02:56:39 Wow. Hey, Q. Son of a bitch. That's kind of a stick. All right, let's go enjoy New Orleans. We'll be back tomorrow, big time show. Hey, Q, great work today, buddy. You really did good. Appreciate you guys.

Starting point is 02:56:49 Always fun. Good shot. Fourth year down here with you guys. It's crazy. How many years have we been here? A couple more, right? 19, 20 off. One, two, three.

Starting point is 02:56:59 So we did Minnesota. We did Topgolf in Atlanta. Yep. Miami. Miami. Miami, the little set. Then it was COVID. COVID, then LA, then Vegas, then here. Now Phoenix.

Starting point is 02:57:12 Oh, Phoenix. Vegas. So how many is it? So I think. Radio Row, 19 was the first, right? But including the 17, 18. That's crazy. I think it's our fifth. I guess they said Mike and

Starting point is 02:57:26 Mad Dog, Mad Dog and Mike. Mike and a Mad Dog. Mike and a Mad Dog. They created Radio Row. That's what people say. He would probably say that I'm sure. I don't know. I don't know well enough but I guess they said that they are the ones that kind of created Radio Row. I think that's kind of the notion. I think. I thought it was Marinci. Well, we'll see about that. About that. Celebrate some ball.

Starting point is 02:57:53 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change your life. We're in this thing together. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three, team. See you tomorrow. Goodbye. 1

The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1292 - Live From Super Bowl Radio Row in New Orleans, Fred Warner, Trey Hendrickson, Thomas Morstead, Pacman Jones, Chris Fallica & More

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