The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1296 - LIVE From the NFL Combine, Jim Harbaugh & Joe Hortiz, Adam Schefter, Nick Caserio

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

On today's show, Pat & the boys are LIVE from the NFL Combine to recap all the action we missed during break, including the NHL's electric Four Nations Faceoff & all the latest NFL news, including Colts GM Chris Ballard saying they'll have an open competition at Quarterback next season, Matt Stafford's latest trade status & potential landing spots, and more. In the first hour, we are joined by Chargers Head Coach Jim Harbaugh & their General Manager Joe Hortiz to chat about the status of free agent Khalil Mack, what they look for in Football Guys, what they are looking forward to at this year's combine, Coach's love of High Fives, and more. In the second hour, Adam Schefter stops by for an update on the Matt Stafford sweepstakes and how that effects broader free agency, where free agent WR Tee Higgins may land, how the relationship between Trey Hendrickson & the Bengals may shake out alongside their big name wide receivers, and much more. In the third hour, we are joined by Houston Texans GM Nick Caserio, who talked about how interviews are his most important piece of the combine process, if the Texans could retain Stefon Diggs this offseason, how CJ Stroud's offseason will look and more. It's great to be back. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We will be LIVE again from the Combine tomorrow & Friday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to Lucas Oil Stadium in beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana. The forever home of the scouting combine. This program starts now. Combine! This is what it's all about. The reason why we are in this glorious stadium on this magical set with that majestic jib and back from a very, very long vacation. It is an absolute honor to be here celebrating the future

of the NFL knowing that the current of the NFL is the greatest league on Earth. Now, I do have a little bit of a sun kiss on my face and my entire body. The past two weeks, post-Super Bowl, my wife, my daughter, my family and I have had a wonderful time. Went down to a beautiful island, even though tiny Hinchcliffe says opposite Puerto Rico had an

absolute blast the people were amazing what the Disney World shout to Michael shout that John shot at the Kelsey for making that a magical experience for my daughter and watching her have pure joy whenever she ran into those characters actual brought tears to my eyes in my big sappy softy now that I have a daughter I I think so. It was magical. It was majestic. Shout out to Mike Foss from ESPN piecing that together. And while we were down there during our break with how long it was, some people were wondering, I've heard

in the industry, oh, Pat McAfee and the show are never coming back to ESPN. They thought we're going to sail off into the sunshine, never come back. Then I popped my ass into Disney and I think, is this not enough of a mention? I am literally in Mickey Mouse's town having the time of my life. We are so incredibly grateful that we get to do this. I think that was a lot of the thought while we were gone is just gratitude, perspective, appreciation.

And also it's time to get back to work. It's time to talk ball. It's time to talk sports. It's time to talk hockey maybe. Bigger, bigger way. Maybe the NBA's got a little bit of juice with this trade that took place and with Luca doing a triple double against the Dallas Mavericks last night right in front of Nico's face. And it's time to talk about what's going to happen on this field in a nice suites around

this glorious stadium. Obviously I'm not alone. I am surrounded by the greatest group of dudes that you could ever gather. Ladies and gentlemen, the talk table is here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, done! Cowboys Tone Diggs is here. All the boys are in the back in the truck. Way to go boys.

Hey boys. The work boys. Hope you guys had a great break. Obviously Gumpy doesn't get a solo shot there. He's off by himself. Foxy, there he is. Okay. Hey guys.

Good to see you Gumpy. Hope you boys had a, there's Nick. Okay. Hope everybody had a great break. Let's start with you, Con Man. I see the USA jersey, the USA tarp. Shout out to our friends at SeatGeek. You were actually at that... Yeah.

Devastating. No doubt. Four Nations Finals against Canada. Boom. I sent this in the group. That was the most devastating loss, okay, that I have experienced in sports in some time. Sure, no doubt.

I was at Disney World with my family, watching my daughter dance with Goofy and Minnie and Mickey, watching my wife have the time of her life, watch her daughter do her thing. So much courage, so much moxie out of our daughter. We did a breakfast with the characters the first morning we were there. Didn't even have a negative thought in my mind

until two tables down, Mickey shows up, and there's a full meltdown from two kids. Full meltdown. Scared to death of Mickey. Minnie shows up even more scared. Kid tried to flip the table. Kid tried to get out of there. It was at that moment I realized,

oh, this could go bad. This could go really bad. What if Mackenzie's scared to death of these characters? This is gonna be a terrible weekend. They come over, she starts dancing, she starts, I'm just having fun. With the time of her life. I'm like, this is gonna be amazing. It was. I don't know how many people leave Disney World, parents say it was a great time. We are very lucky. We got the whole hookup from Mike Foss, from Michael, from John, from Kelsey. I'm living the high life.

I'm a dad. I'm in Florida, 65 degrees. Perfect. 65 degrees. Interesting. It was perfect. Yeah. I'd pop on that final against stupid Canada.

Especially, sorry. Sorry. No, you meant it. You said it. You said what you meant. In that context. With everything going on with USA and Canada right now, and obviously there's some very serious implications, which, listen,

we're not a part of all that. But there was a lot of chirping going on between the Canadians and the Americans on the four nations thing that happened for the NHL All-Star for USA to play Canada and for the first time for them to boo our national anthem. Okay with everything going on and then our boys just to be like three fights in nine seconds you're talking about 10 million people watching one of the most anticipated hockey games of all time. And I could not wait to wake up the next morning in Disney

World and say, it's our game now. It's our game now. Instead, the leader of a country that stepped down, did he step down? I thought so. I don't know. He's tweeting like he didn't. Someone called him something and he got a little emotional.

And I think instead of stepping down. When he was at that ski resort. Yeah, when he's jogging. So he steps down. And then he he's like our country, our sport. It's like they earn that. But with that being said, what a game, what a sport. Unreal. And shout out to our friends at Seekik. You're actually there on the ice con.

Yeah. Shout out Seekik. Shout out you for putting it together. It was incredible. The best atmosphere I think I've ever been a part of. We're good with 50. We don't want Canada. Still holds true, I thought maybe Mexico, still don't want them either, but it was amazing. This was the national anthem. You mentioned atmosphere,

that was the loudest national anthem I've ever been a part of. You know, been to a Super Bowl, that was honestly better when it comes to environments. The boys were flying around and the hate was real. You know, when everyone was coming out, it was, nobody was sitting down. Everybody was on their feet, you know, I had to kind of bite my tongue multiple times,

because I wanted to say bad things to people in, you know, Canada jerseys, both children and grown ups, and I decided, any Canadian, exactly, anybody, anybody wearing red, to a certain point, but you know, you also have to kind of read between the lines a little bit. The tension in the air was palpable. The entire game was amazing. You know, for it to go to overtime, even just made it in a better atmosphere. And of course, like you mentioned, it stunk that the game ended how it was. But I think the biggest thing for me was how awesome hockey is. Truly how great of a game it is. And you know, as football ends now, you know, we still got the combine.

We still got free agency. We got these other things happening. Drafted. Great rumors. Bullshit. Yeah, all that, you know, fun stuff. But thinking about where hockey is now, you know, Matthew Kachuk was on one of the Tonight shows,

you know, talking about the game. And that's the other thing about Matthew Kachuk. Him, Charlie McEvoy, like, those guys potentially are out for the rest of the NHL season and that's not really a Talking point because how much of a success the entire thing was I went to the Sweden game on Monday Sweden Sweden USA before the final and that was just as Electric and then of course, you know the Canada USA games start to finish overtime It was one of the best experience. Austin Matthews got to put that top, Chad. We obviously got to cover McJesus,

even though he doesn't like the name. That is what he looks like on the ice. It was amazing for the sport of hockey. And obviously, I was bummed out that we weren't live while it was taking place. Then I woke up on Friday morning after we lost. I'm like, happy we don't have to talk about that. I got it.

Happy we don't have to talk about that last night. Other things happened during the break. How was your break, though? Good? Oh, fantastic. Yeah, wonderful. Thanks for representing the program up there. Thank you for getting it done down there Those were not the cheapest seats. Yeah, $40,000 in tickets shot to see Cheapest tickets bright so you pops the possibly get that's what they do with everything Seek it is the greatest ticket buying platform on planet Earth and

As we echo through the lobby of the concourse here if when we go if if we went we did Did you dive into that anymore? Yeah, and I am further in my belief. Okay. All right. We don't even dive Okay in the birds thing, I mean videos this morning. There's a lot of conversation. We're back. What do you want? Sports, sports, sports. Okay. So hockey, we lose to Canada in the finals. It's your game until I think the Olympics are coming up right around the corner. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be ours then. Delayed.

Okay. Anything worth having might take a little bit. We'll take your sport at another time. Congrats to Canada. Sure. Thank you. Thank you very much. Been delayed for a while now. Okay, Gump. We won curling. You remember when curling Matty Hamilton went into Canada and said, this is our game now?

You remember that? When you guys throw that rock on the ice and you curve it like it's bocce, but we win it. And Gump, weren't you pulling for America at one point? Not against Canada, but against the other teams? I always am pulling for America, you guys are my brothers. And I wasn't even going to tweet. I was just going to enjoy the tournament.

And then Taylor Luan actually decided that he invented hockey. So I just couldn't keep quiet anymore. I had to let it out. Where's this guy coming live from? The US or Canada? He's in America. Dreams come true, obviously. And Gumpi, we love you.

We appreciate you. Congrats to the Canadians. Actually, I have to take a trip to Canada this weekend I had a wardrobe already fit sure already ready for everything that was going on I think bald eagle is nowhere was going to don't now if I wear it. It's a little different Now if I wear it's like yeah, we want yeah, and I'm not in that conversation You know cuz I grew up at Niagara Falls a Canadian side I'll go to old casino new casino wild mushroom whenever I'm like a teenager because you gotta be 19 up there

My brother's four years older than me. We look very similar. So I had a good time in Canada. Whatever the case They'll let I'll let everybody else handle that. I just hope we win the hockey stuff going forward against them because hockey is Awesome now other things happen during the break. I hope you had a fantastic break the Jets told Aaron Rodgers Yeah, he was not wanted over there. Yeah, and you know apparently you know they slipped up a little bit yesterday Darren Mooji, you know there get into that okay sure, but I mean we expected this to happen I don't think this was crazy news, but now where's Rodgers gonna go next that is kind of like the best part of the off season In general you know you got Steelers fans. Maybe they want him. Maybe they don't.

I don't know. But then all of a sudden, there's the rumor coming out. Actually, with Matt Stafford maybe on the move, maybe Rodgers fancies being an LA Ram. Maybe he wants to play for Sean McVeigh. And maybe he's going to bring Devontae with him as well. We are gone for two weeks. It feels like so much had happened in our world.

And obviously, we're keeping track of everything while also checking out, refreshing, resetting, but also keeping up with everything because we get to talk about sports So we have to know our shit, especially whenever it involves one of our guys I mean Aaron is one of our guys front of the program a lot of people around here on this concourse don't love that No, but that's just reality of the situation and how it goes, but Aaron from our source says Currently out of country.

When gets back, potentially next week, we'll join the program. Awesome. Okay. I did ask about Ram's situation to our source, CIS. Open to everything, attached to nothing. Big fan of Sean McVey though. So, I don't know what all what all goes

what doesn't but I think right now everybody's trying to figure it out and also remember Aaron Rodgers open to everything attached to nothing. Potential retirement too. So like there is a lot of conversation around that that took place during the break. That was awesome and since the combine has started, Tone, I hope you had a fantastic break. You look amazing. Congrats to Tone by the way sticking with this diet thing he's doing. He carries around one of those asshole hydration bottles. Just a Gatorade ball. No it's not just a Gatorade it's an oversized one. It stays cold all the time. It clangs though. It clangs and when you drink out of the ice it goes to you. That was one

time. Still clangs. You do it in public whatever the case we're proud of you. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations. Congratulations Speaking of being healthy something happened during the break and before we get to you Tony, we'll talk about another Italian I don't know if I should break it Gumpy. Is this already out there? Yeah, it is out there Okay, so con Cafa head coach. Oh, yeah, Tony. Miola suffered a heart attack last week Had a hundred percent blockage. I believe in one of his arteries, came out of nowhere. I got a text the night of, and then I got a chance to talk to Tony, I think, either the next day or the day after that.

And he said that the doctors told him like a week, in a week he'll feel better than he has felt in a long time because of how clogged that was. But it was like real cardiac arrest. There was a real moment like that. So to Tony Miolo We want to let you know thank you for your service to con CAFA this past year at TST But also the whole world's pumped you're still with us, brother

And he sent a magical text message I don't know how many people got it, but it was like a message of like hey boys. Let's lock it Yeah, he said like let's lock in cuz I think he let himself go You know he even admitted that he was back on the path I think he'd lost 30 pounds since we'd seen him or 40 pounds since seeing him But he thinks you know he's probably done too much damage already at that point and sent like a very hard It was like a very like I almost got teared my I was like like hey Let's remember boys that this all can change in an instant whenever you have this type of situation You think about that especially when you're on the other side of it his son I think was the one that potentially

yeah so it's like a it's a full thing so we're very happy and we're we're thankful that you're the asshole carrying around this thing to make sure you stay hydrated now our ears have to deal with it and our eyes have to deal with her and everything you're around we have to deal because we hear it hitting everything but we're not gonna joke about you getting healthy we're proud of you thank you I appreciate now a lot of things have happened in sports. We're four nations. Talk about Aaron. Obviously, the NBA had the biggest trade with Luca and Anthony Davis.

And they're potentially coming back into the forefront of conversation. I think they need more likable superstars. Thought about the NBA a lot during the break, because Tyrese Halliburton, front of ours, and the Pacers have the best record in 2025. Oh, OK. Hang the banner. OK? They will.

He gives a shit. All right? The Celtics are going to win the NBA. OK, yeah. That the banner. Okay. They will give us a shit. All right. The Celtics are going to win the NBA. Okay. Yeah. That's the problem. It's real. But I thought about it because like Tyrese is friend of the program. And I thought to myself like, is Tyrese the only likable superstar in the NBA? So you start going around. It's like LeBron was obviously he's been famous for 25 years at this point. So it's not his job to carry league. It's not his job to be out there. But all the other superstars, it feels like they don't really care if people like them. And it's like, hey, I think whenever you're a league, to get the casuals in there, there

has to be some sort of connection. It has to be some sort of likeability. So for the Pacers to have the best record in 2025, I think is good news for the NBA because Tyrese Halliburton hopefully gonna get a little bit more. When you talk about a guy with Moxie Flair, he's a little bit of a nerd, little bit of a nerd, but a dog out on the court. And he's yeah, he is he's a guy that's very I think there's and he's not scared to like talk, you know, or he gets it. He understands that people like he wants it to be a show. He wants people like I think

that's the NBA's biggest issue. Now, when Luke will go in LA, especially with what he did last night, I think there's a chance that the NBA is in a good spot. Let's get back to the NFL. Yeah. Combine starts earlier this week. Didn't know that was the case. A lot of things have happened. We have some early headlines.

Quickly from the headlines of the press conferences that have already taken place from this particular Combine tone. Yeah, a lot of people are talking, all the GMs, almost all the coaches are talking, and I figured we, almost all the coaches are talking, and I figured we would start right here in Indianapolis. Colts GM Chris Ballard was talking about his quarterback Anthony Richardson. Everything's on the table. It'll be open, that's correct.

And of course, it's got to be somebody that can really challenge from a from a production standpoint too. It's got to be the right guy to create real competition but we want to create real competition. I think it's good for the team. I think it's good for Anthony. I mean I don't like when we draft we drafted Anthony High knowing it was going to take some time all right and we knew there's going to be some hiccups along the way. And it's, it's, you know, I know we all want to finish product right now. I do. You do. Fans do. We all do.

But I think as he continues to progress in his young career, us adding competition, I think, will help up everybody's game. Yeah, I think it will up everybody's game. And that's obviously obviously big news because I got those draft number four overall just a couple years ago has only played like 14 games in two years has obviously a litany of injuries Question marks huge amount of talent which is what you draft somebody on hasn't been able to play as much team hasn't really had much success and Whenever you walk around the building you start hearing some things this building that we've been in here for the last couple days Looks like Colts got a lot of things to figure out

Okay, but maybe they will be able to and if it's open competition its quarterback spot Maybe that sends a message to the rest of the locker room Maybe everything gets tightened up for a lot of talent in one locker room and maybe the culture on the go open Competition is quite a phrasing for a guy that was number four overall pick a couple years ago But interesting certainly happening to start the week here Yeah, it's funny you mentioned us being around here because I was actually around here as well And I've actually heard that it's worse than what you said, okay? The things that you said were one thing

But you know it's actually worse than what's being projected out there And I just want to let the people in the apples know those two Super Bowls before 2030 it ain't happening, okay? 2050 I don't think we're getting one, Pat. I think this is over. I want my taxes back. Okay. This place sucks. No.

The building sucks. I mentioned it earlier. Taxes, a lot of conversation about taxes while we were gone. Yeah, yeah. I love all those talks. We don't need to get into that. I love all those talks too.

We don't need to get into that. But yeah, I don't think it's just Indianapolis, you know, where we're hearing these horror stories from people that we know around this combine. Everybody in the NFL is here. We happen to know a lot of people. We just happen to live in Indianapolis so we don't get to see a lot of people. A lot of conversation.

There is potential culture issues in places. Let's talk about a culture that has been built though. A culture that has been established. Ladies and gentlemen, I think you got to lift that to the legends who will join us. The men who were tasked with taking the Chargers to the Super Bowl. Justin Herbert, Michigan man, national champion, Jim Harbaugh and Joe Ortiz. Alright, Coach. Let me get one. Coach, Coach, I need it. Up top. Up top. Okay, one this one and then two that one and then the audio control over there. One, two? Yeah, one or two. It should be able to get over to you.

She ain't that dead. There you go. There it is. Yeah, works perfect. Can you hear us? I can't. Can you hear us? Yes, sir.

I'm gonna have to put the mic. There it is. Yep, got me. There we go. Let's go. Hey, it's 2025, NFL General Manager. I got the mic, okay? Yeah.

We'll figure this out. We're talking about, so coach, as you guys know, and Joe, as you guys know, this is like a spring break almost for the entire NFL. Used to be, at least. Everybody comes here. Everybody meets here. Everybody gathers here.

A lot of conversations. A lot of the ex-players that I know have been talking about potential culture issues in places, whether it's work ethic or you okay? Yeah, I'm great, I'm great. He was talking about his head. He was talking about his head. He was talking about his head.

He was talking about his head. Okay, so with that being said, good culture there. Didn't even have to say anything, kind of looked out for each other. But it feels like a lot of guys are talking about, right now it might not be as easy to find a guy who loves ball or is as committed to work. Maybe some teams are having that kind of ooze through an entire locker room.

And culture is the biggest thing. We got a chance to go into your building. Your culture seems magnificent when you're at this place. I'll start with you, Joe. Finding guys that love ball that fit your culture. Is that the most important part of this entire thing? That's big up there. You know, we just got done draft meetings before we came out here. And that's one of the things we talked about and coach sat in them.

And that's one of the questions we have. How much does a guy love ball and will he fit into our culture that we've established already? And that's what we're here doing interviewing guys. How do you find, do you ask questions? Like how do you figure out if a guy likes ball or not? Well, I'll tell you what, if you sat in the meetings with us, watch coach work in there and his energy,

when they match his energy, you know they love it. Coach, let's talk about that. As soon as you got in the NFL, we're excited, we celebrate it. We said Jim, back in the NFL, this is good news. Thank you. We love you. But we also know that as soon as a hardball comes

into a team, just like at Michigan, just like at Stanford, just like at San Francisco, just like every, I assume back at San Francisco, just like everywhere, I assume back in San Diego, everywhere you go, physical team. Yeah, this is how we describe your team. Oh yeah, coach. Kenny Powers, one of my favorite actors right here. Connor, Connor.

Absolutely. It's an honor. Hey, but coach, that's a real deal. That's how we describe your teams. So like when you're at this event, finding those types of guys, he talked about these meetings. Do you know immediately, or how do you know if a guy is a hardball type guy?

Well, it's not a hardball guy. It's a football guy. You know, I mean, how can you tell? Yeah, you can. Some in the interactions, I mean, some guys, you can just tell that they're them. They're not trying to bull crap you. And mainly, they just look at the tape. You can just tell that they're them. They're not trying to bull crap you.

And mainly they just look at the tape. What you do speaks so loudly that we don't even have to hear what you say. And the reports that they get from their coach at the school, I mean, just how do we know? I mean, you talk about our culture. You were there. Fantastic. You were there in the weight room. Your culture is fantastic. Center of player development. I just look at how guys train.

How they work on the field and how they work in the weight room. We just looked at our report card. Our players gave our weight room, our training environment an A plus. A plus grade. As they should. Trying to get into the Silver Bells club. There's obviously something that is what everybody is trying to do. That's Ben Herbert. That's all Ben Herbert.

Love Herb. You love Herb, right? Love Herb. Jinser, right? Yeah, he's a Jinser. He's from Pittsburgh, I believe. If you don't love Herb, then you Herb. Jinser right? I think he's a Jinser. Yeah, he's a Jinser. He's from Pittsburgh I believe. Yeah, if you don't love Herb, then yeah, you don't like to train.

You don't like to get in there and move weight. That might be the way to figure it out. Let's bring Herb in here. Let's have a conversation for two minutes. What do you think of that guy? I love him. Deal. What do you think of that guy?

A little bit too much. Sweet, let's get you the hell out of here. He was electric whenever we saw him. I totally wanted to do that too. I mean, I've been saying that. I said, hey, let's bring Herb here to the interviews. Let's get a guy in front of Herb for 15 minutes. I mean, we're going to know.

But legitimately, I think you would. Yeah. Herb. Yeah. And Herb preferred to stay back and train guys. Of course. Of course. Yeah. That's how he's built. Conflict of edges. Absolutely. OK, last question from me, and then the boys And Herb preferred to stay back and train guys. Of course.

That's how he's built conflict. OK, last question from me, then the boys will have some. And we appreciate you guys taking time. Legitimately, I know you're very busy. Welcome to Indianapolis. Welcome back to Indianapolis, obviously. Ring of Honor. Yeah, Ring of Honor here, Coach.

Let's go. Yeah, appreciate you pulling by the house. I think it's over here to the left. I have a, uh. Near Colts Nation. I think it's over here. I think. Yeah, right there. Yeah, right there. Yeah, yeah.

Ted Marchabrota. Right before Colts Nation, Jim Horriban. Now, you didn't spend a lot of time here, but you are beloved here. Okay, you just need to know. As are you. As are you. That I think that is accurate. Brought Royal Rumble here. Got Russell Manning coming in. I get so many more high I brought Royal Rumble here, got Russell Manning coming out. I get so many more high fives now. I mean, just people just randomly on the street, I get a high five.

I saw you on the McAfee show. That was so cool. So that high five plaque that we got you? It's front and center right there in the desk. Still going strong. That's awesome. I give them at least one high five a day. That was the goal.

Tim McAvoy, we pumped to hear that. Last question from me before the boys have theirs. Coach, you've been there for a year now. Last year going into the season, you talking about the Chargers was a lot of Justin Herbert is, yeah, we found the golden goose. So we got this guy. We're going to protect this guy. Justin Herbert is the guy that you're

looking for whenever you're trying to look for a guy. That was the entire messaging We're gonna build around one year with the Chargers now obviously had some success We thought we're gonna go much sooner than I think a lot of people were projecting you guys to get your thing in there You won a lot earlier one year in now. What did you learn about the team? Would you learn about Herbert and like kind of where are you as the Chargers head coach? Yeah, all those things It's super excited about the version 2.0 with the team. I mean, we did not achieve the ultimate success. I mean, there's only one team that's happy in the NFL right

now, and that's the Philadelphia Eagles. Regarding Justin, he's everything that we thought he was. All of us, I mean, why we're here is to level up. Level up our game. Joe's doing it, I'm doing it. Just getting up every single morning. We got to level up for Justin, for Derwin, for Khalil,

for Joey, for Rashawn Slater. I mean, incredible group of guys. Didn't get the ultimate success, but there was some, there was definitely unmitigated success along the way and keep building build build build get better better better. I feel like everybody knows what they're going to get in your building at this point like we're talking like the chefs I mean the chefs phenomenal the whole building Joe is magnetic all going in the right direction everyone's moving together from the rv till now feels like you guys are already rolling the boys you mentioned a name

in there I assume that Connor Connor's gonna ask about. Well, Joe, I was actually curious about the salary cap. Right now, the huge conversation, you know, of course is with the Bengals, how they have so many great players. Right. And it's hard to retain all those guys. And for you guys as well,

you have so much young talent on there. Rashawn Slater. Sure. You know, Joe Walt, Lad McConkey now is a guy, and they're still a few years out, but how do you kind of project when to pay people? How do you know when's the right time? How much do you try and always go

to the top of the market for some guys if they deserve it? Or how do you know when the timing is right? Because obviously some teams get into cap hell. And we don't really believe in the cap space. Souther Cap gymnastics. Yeah, we think you can do anything you want to pay people. The Eagles are one of those teams. They just did it you know won the Super Bowl. So how do you kind

of project those things? Yeah you know you just you look forward certainly when you have young players you know you can't sign any of them until after three years you know in the league unless they're under or undrafted free agent but you forecast it you want to get ahead of it but there is a there's a fine line there's's a delicate balance, when to strike, when to do things. Obviously we got there this year, both new to the organization. So we wanted to get there and feel out the team

and get to know the guys. And now we're moving forward and starting to address those issues and those contracts. And that's what we're working for this off season. We'll work towards during the season and try to stack them, keep as many good players as we can. And the who place who play 17 games who play all the games I mean, that's that's the ones that's the ones we want to pay the guys that are that their their availability

Is their best ability guys that are playing 18 games out there, you know fighting given everything they can for their for their teammates You know, that's Competitors welcome. Yes Angeles Chargers. I think better place to complete than on game day saying they can for their teammates. You know, that's competitor's welcome at the Los Angeles Chargers. No better place to compete than on game day. I think that's a sign right in the building, competitor's welcome, or you said it in here. And I remember going into the last week of the season,

it was already locked in, your seating and everything like that, everything was already figured out. And there was a lot of conversation around the league about who's playing, who's not playing, who's gonna try to play, who's not gonna try to play. And there's a lot of conjecture every single year's playing, who's not playing, who's going to try to play, who's not going to try to play and there's a lot of you know conjecture every single year about well you get cold you get rust is it rest or is it rust? Rust. Yeah and then we talked to you and I asked you I'm like so what are you going to do this was in the cafeteria

and you said I think we're about one week out from our toughness level, our peak toughness that we need to be going into the playoffs. I think four more quarters will harden us to where we need to be at the toughness level. So yeah, we're playing. Yeah, that is that's kind of my idea, my thought. Do you, it sounds like you truly believe that. Toughness, number one thing for a football team you think? What is, obviously talent you have to have, but toughness is the number one trait that your team needs to have? It'd be right there tied with talent and effort. Those would be the top three.

Talent, effort and toughness. And whatever you tell it by your talent and effort, you will be known as a football player. You know, God, it's known Khalil Mack. What are you going to do? Oh, well, come on, Joe. Let's go. Khalil knows how I feel about him, and we'd love to have him back. And we're going to work towards that. You know, we had good conversations

right after the season. Pay the man, Joe. Pay the man. Let's get it back. Let's get it back. Big D. He's a silver belt state, right? That is amazing.

But back to his question about paying people, when you pay people, and we're talking about the Sally Cap gymnastics and it being fake and people doing that, you kick the can down the road, inevitably it comes. It does. You pay the piper. You gotta hit on draft picks, right? Yep.

In that kind of the supplement, that is like a huge part of roster construction. Absolutely. Is whenever you pay guys at the top end, you're gonna need your cheap young guys that you drafted on limited contracts for at least three years, undrafted guys, whatever, they need to perform at a high level.

When you're at a combine, how many people are like a draft? I don't know how many picks you has, I should have had done a research, whatever it is. How many people are you trying to get out of each draft? Like what is a proper projection of like teams hitting in a draft? Yeah, I mean not you know we're trying to hit on every one. Exactly. I mean that's the goal. That's I mean if that's not your goal you're approaching it the wrong way. So we're gonna try to hit now every pick. That's why we pour so many resources into it. We have the coaches here, we have all the sc way. So we're gonna try to hit now every pick. That's why we pour so many resources into it.

We have the coaches here, we have all the scouts here, we're at pro days. And ultimately, will you hit on everyone? Probably not, but that's our goal. That's our mindset going into it. Probably not. Stats say yes. There's gonna be guys that don't make it in the NFL

that get drafted. I love that your mindset is like, maybe. I mean, that's not our decisions. I can't wait to watch what you guys get out of here, especially with talent, effort, toughness. T-E-T. Oy. Oy.

Oy. Yeah, it's T-E-T. Oy. Oy. Oy. Ty, I have a question for you. Speaking of all that and being here, how important is it actually being here in Indy

and seeing these guys face to face? Because I think the last several years as the compines gotten a much bigger deal, we'll see teams will be here Monday through Wednesday, they do the medicals and then they head out. They're not even here for the player interviews, they look at all the tape and all that kind of stuff. But for you guys, how important is it to actually be boots on the ground here and get in front of these guys face to face? Because it happens a lot. Someone will get will get drafted and then, you know, a year or two years down the road, something pops up and it's like, well, how didn't this come up

in the, in the draft process? How didn't the GM or the head coach see? So how important is it actually being here and kind of getting the most out of the combine? Yeah. You know, just with the interviews itself, it could be our only exposure to the player, you know, and chances to sit in the room with them for 18 minutes, get a feel for them. And it may be for this year's draft,

it could be for four years down the road, you know, when they become free agents, you know, we're making connections in there and trying to get a feel for the players in that room. And it's a great opportunity for us and the coaches. It's certainly the coach's first exposure to them. And then just seeing them out here on the field, just watching them compete on a level playing field, going against each other, performing in front of us. It's a great opportunity to let the cream rise to the top. And what are you doing? You're just being awesome the entire time? You, whenever you're

out here. I mean, it's spring. If you like football, where would you pick a better spring break destination? Indiana. To give the athletes for the combine. Yeah. It's beautiful this week too. Especially coming from LA.

You know, obviously everything that happened in LA, nothing but positive vibes to everybody over there. I assume you guys had people that were very, I'd like, that was devastating obviously. So nothing but positive vibes. When we talk about LA, Sean McVeigh was like the first one, I think, that was like, I'm not coming to the combine. It was after they won the Super Bowl.

And the only reason why we pay attention obviously is because it's here in Indianapolis. So anytime the contract is extended, the entire city celebrates. Like we are very thankful that we host the combine and it is the NFL spring break. And I think even like the service industry here very much understands like we are very thankful

that the NFL is here. Places stay open. They do an incredible job here. Yeah, people stay open for them to have meetings. So I think like that's when it kind of started. Comb will always be a thing coach combine will always be a big deal always I hope so What do you think that what is your thoughts on it like as the combine has gone because now it's like they'll flex the ratings They will flex the ratings this weekend. It'll do better than any NBA game. It'll do better than any NHL game, which is a bummer

Angel is absolutely fantastic. But what are your thoughts on the combine, Coach Harbaugh, and where it is right now? I love it. I mean, maybe I still look at it as a player, you know, with players' eyes, but I mean, I, you know, couldn't wait for the combine, prepared for the combine. I mean, it was a chance to go and compete, you know?

And I know some guys won't, for various reasons, I prepared for the combine. I mean, it was a chance to go and compete. And I know some guys won't for various reasons, and they'll do what's best for them. And I have total respect for that. But it's an opportunity to compete. Go dazzle. Go knock the socks off of Joe Hortiz. So yeah, it's,

where else you gonna find that kind of opportunity? I wasn't invited to the combine. Thanks, Joe, I see you mean a part. You know what, guys, we voted for you. We voted for you. Hey, thank you, man. You know, you would've. Thank you, I appreciate that.

But I was like. A guy will say he's a competitor. Hey, I'm a competitor, I'll compete at anything. I'll compete at tiddly winks, you know? Sure. Okay, well, here's football. You know, you got know. You got opportunity. You got opportunity.

Yeah. Let's go see it. I would have, so I think it helped me though build a like obviously a lot of spite and like motivation that I wasn't invited to the combine. So I thought like even the NFL doesn't think I'm supposed to be in their league and I kind of use that as like the motivation of it all. Oh, there's a lot of guys like that. You know, they'll have their opportunity at Pro Day,

prove the people wrong who didn't invite them to the combine. I mean, that's a great motivator, too. Hopefully there's some. I had a great Pro Day, man. I had a great Pro Day. I felt real good coming out of the Pro Day, walking out of it.

I'm like, maybe I did something there. And it was a little dry for a couple of days. I'm like, oh, maybe I didn't. Maybe you didn't do well. Because I don't think a lot of these guys, I mean, nowadays, because we have so much information and 421 last year, right? So now we have so much information, but like back in the day, you didn't know much. So like when he got on the field next to that, it was the first time seeing a guy. Like whenever we would play against him, this is coming from player kicker punter, low end totem pole, but still opportunity to be there.

Whenever we want Cyphers, who was the Chargers punter, he, that was the first time I was ever standing next to him and watching him do his thing in warmups. And warmups is like where kickers and punters, if they want to, which most, it's like, hey, let's put on a show here. Let's see what, you know, like for me, I wanted the balls beat up.

Like, hey, warmups here, I want the court to bat. Like I am hitting bombs. And the reason is, Mike Seifers stood next to me and he hit a ball in this stadium. I'll never forget it. It was towards this window. I thought it was going out of the window. He hit a ball that was so big.

And I was like, holy shit, I'm not supposed to be here. It was like one of my first couple years. I think that's the combine. Like, I think getting a chance to be next to a quarterback. Hey, let's see how these balls, in the same exact setting, same exact wide receivers, I think there's a moment where you can really find out. So I hope people keep competing out here.

Legitimately. Did you do pump, pass, and kick as a kid? Yeah, national champion. I think I had to record for a while. I apologize. I'm sure that's your documentary. No, it's not. No, it's not. I got my ass booed when they announced it. We don't talk about it much. I was representing the Steelers.

Steelers played the Titans. It was a wild card game, I think. It was in Tennessee. Is there video footage of that? Like Andy Reid? Yeah. What the hell, man? He's like... Did you do a pump pass, or kick?

I never got past, I won the, every single time I won the local, but I couldn't get to, I couldn't get past the regional. Yeah. Local is the, I went to a tiny little school in like a town next to Plum. I think it was in New Ken. I think I went into a school, there was like 13 guys, like maybe at my age level. The champion, the reigning Pittsburgh champion was there. And he went there because there wasn't a lot of people.

My mom and I did not know the scouting, like you can go to these that don't have a lot of people so you can kind of get your way in there. And then your numbers get measured amongst the rest of the city and then you get invited to the Pittsburgh one. Coach, when I talk about having perfect days, I mean, you're talking about the local one,

I had a perfect, I hit the line. I hit the, like, you know how they had a measuring stick? So you won it all for your age group yeah whole thing and then when I got announced in Tennessee they're playing the Steelers stayed and booed me yeah there it is that's not me. Sound on this? I throw the shocker here in a second to a coach I mean it's a nightmare but yeah there's and then here's me wait for it yeah and I get booed we don't have sound all right if we had sound I get booed by the stadium and then the commentators actually

Turn it up is her sound That sounds like music Yeah, that's my so that's a trophy the big trophy but the first one the first one was like the football player standards kind of straight up with his and You won the second one you football. I thought it was like a goal post Maybe it trains and then got to a football when I got a kid. I was in Iowa City, Iowa Eight years old I want and I got a ride from there's four other kids in the car we drove to like Ames, Iowa I remember and I lost three three of the kids three of the five of us came back with this trophy in there

They got him, you know sitting there in the laps of the car. I'm by the window of looking out the window Next year I've got Tears coming down. I'm like, God, next year I'm going to... What was it, the punt or the kick that got you? It was the kick. It was the kick. The punt was good. The throw was really good.

And the kick, I was a straight on kicker and it went, zing! Like way off to the right. Just killed me. The way they measure it is they put a tape measure. Tape measure straight down. And then for every yard you're off, that gets taken off.

Subtracted. Yep. I hit the thing. Punt hit the thing. Like my punt hit the thing. Zero subtraction. Zero subtraction. Oh hit the tape.

Throw, hit the thing. Zero subtraction. Like. Great day. Like I'm talking, it was down in Tennessee. Locked in. In the thing. And Andy Reid is the greatest of all time at punt passing kick,

coach. It is amazing. 80 yards. Yeah, I mean, look at the guys in the vest. They were so impressed. They had no idea. They couldn't even pull the grip. Andy Reid, that guy would go on to win multiple Super Bowls,

being in the middle of a dynastic run, then lose to the Philadelphia Eagles in dramatic fashion. How will he bounce back? What do you think about how that game went coach Harbaugh? Or the Super Bowl? I just know how I felt. I mean I felt the same disappointment that the Chiefs felt. You know they were probably less disappointed than we were because we didn't make it to

the Super Bowl. Maybe there's teams that were more disappointed than us who didn't make the playoffs. But yeah, I felt the same disappointment, as I said, only one team's happy, the team that wins the Super Bowl. OK, so Joe, that's a question for you. Hardball football, we're going to be physical. Physical team won. That's the team that won the Super Bowl right now.

Knocked off the back-to-back world champs. Does that change anything with how you're building team, or does that just kind of solidify your thoughts? I think it solidifies what we what we're doing I remember on my on my interview coach was there and we talked about being physical tough during my interview process and And he's nodding his head and you know, so that's we're both of the same mindset We want to be out there and build the bully and knock teams off and knock them off the ball Yeah, there it is and knock teams off and knock them off the ball. Yeah. Yeah, there it is.

Hell yeah. Football. Football. That's football right there. Football's always going to be that. Yeah, in the trenches. In the trenches, right? Always will be.

I think there's some people that are trying to forget about that when they're building their team and when they're talking to the people that they're trying to get in their locker room. It's like, hey, got to have tough people. This is going to be a sport that you're going to have to be tough. And I played punter. And the only reason why I'm saying that is because I'm watching a locker room. It's like, hey, gotta have tough people. This is going to be a sport that you're going to have to be tough. And I played punter and that I'm

the only reason I'm saying that is because I'm watching a locker room and it's like this guy is scraping clawing to get to Friday, let alone to play on Sunday. It's like you need to have tough people in your building.

And that is you need to tell everybody you were national champion. You should be telling everybody, Pat. That should be on your gravestone right there. National champion. I will add that. I will add that to it.

I should be more proud. I didn't know that Jim Harbaugh, Captain Comeback, Ring of Honor member, national champion, going to go down as a Hall of Famer, first ballot as quick as possible. so many in I don't you're probably already in college football I don't even know how many Hall of Famers are already in you're gonna do that to hear that you didn't win one and then I won literally the only one I mean that makes you feel like it was a little bit more of an accomplishment very cool

so I should be respect did you you would end up winning though right you would go you would go on to win one or never At pump passing cake. Yeah, I only won the local. Oh, so you literally never did I never know Three attempts one in Iowa one at Ann Arbor, Michigan I could never get I could never win the second one the state the city the stadium. Yeah the regional I couldn't get past the regional. I'd say we never got to a stadium. You're a champion in our book. That's right. You actually are.

In our eyes. Yeah. Tone has a question. Coach, a couple guys from your Michigan team coming out this year, Kenneth Grant, Mason Graham, those are our first round tough dogs. I mean, I know you took Joe Alt and then a couple Michigan guys last year. We looking at those guys this year. Well, absolutely.

And Colston Loveland. Yeah. And Will Johnson. I mean. Yeah, they could all be first round. I mean, they could. All four could be first round. If we look this up, I don't think there's ever been four first round draft picks

from Michigan in the history of the draft. We looked that up and there's the most is three. So could be four, could be five. There could be a fifth that jumps in there. We'll see, you know, but yeah, super proud of those guys. And you know, it's, we have the 22nd pick. We get, you get one pick every 30, every 32 picks. So yeah, you can see where the where the good players

are and the odds are you're gonna be playing against them but but we're gonna we're gonna we're just not gonna get all the good ones Joe Kahlilback, Kahlilback, pay the bet. Hopefully Ed's listening right now. Maybe you guys need a punter to fill in middle of the season. Coach Harbaugh, we found this on the internet of you. Looks like a good flat drop table there. Looks like you're swinging a little bit outside of your body but might be trying to go a little Aussie.

Cross field. What is the swing here, coach? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that swing is. I mean, look at the focus and concentration. I like the drop. Great drop. Great drop. I don't know what the swing is. I mean, look at the focus. Look at the focus though. The focus and concentration. I like the drop. Great drop. Great drop.

I don't know what the side straddle is there. Well, you're coming across your body, I think, a little bit. So maybe you're trying to chop it on the returner, because this is obviously punting to the returners. So your punters don't have to punt 1,000 balls. Yeah, probably trying to get the cross field. Getting a little hook going. Hook, roll.

They're doing some magical stuff with those footballs. I'm actually hosting the. Yeah, tell us about that. We're all excited about that special show after this morning We heard we heard music and so they were practicing so that was with local high school kids Okay, they were running through all the drills so they can test all the different There's some youth kids out there in the morning to like Eight o'clock there was some They were doing Pat and go Yeah, that was the warm-up for the they did a full and Go. Yeah, they were the high school kids. Yeah, they were warm.

That was the warm up for the they did a full combine. I was watching some of the kids out here. There was a there was a partner that was hitting the ball like 55 60 yards turning it over high school kid, but they were trying to get the camera angles on it. So then they had a bunch of kids run to 40. There's a D tackle nose tackle kid. I don't know if he's a junior high school.

He ran a 4-7. He looked like he was like 330 335. So they were like running all these practice reps out here this morning. But you got the kickers and punters, and the snappers are going to be going day one. And you're organizing it? No, Randy Brown, who's the senior special team.

Oh, we know Randy. You know Randy Brown? Yeah, from Baltimore. He has been in the NFL for so long. He is so good. His brain, whenever it comes to this special teams is so good. What Baltimore did with Sam Cooke in the punt game changed. I know everybody says the Aussies do and the Aussie certainly did and they've certainly the

Aussie style of punting changed football forever. And the Chargers I think had one of the first ones way back in Darren Bennett. Yeah, I think Darren Bennett back in the day. Yeah, big dog too I heard. He could hit the ball very, very well. But what Sam Cooke started doing was like all these different cross punts and like misdirection shit. He's a mechanic. Dude, it was so like for me, he changed my entire career because I like watched it. I'm like, oh, we could probably do that a little bit.

And we did. And it became the it became so like, well, I have massive respect for Coach Hardball, your brother and obviously you, but him for the special team shit. What Randy did you hold? Yeah, in college, I have massive respect for coach hardball your brother and obviously you but him for the special team shit What Randy did you hold? Yeah in college? I did not I lied right to Bill Pulliam But I did I did hold for Vinny that was nerve-racking as shit But like Randy was breaking down my holding to me yesterday that I never heard like he said ever throw a pass run a ball Do you ever have a fire fire? So my average You know, I have the highest passer rating and potential QBR on Thanksgiving

Day. Didn't go for a touchdown because Antonio Brown tackled a tight end and Eric Swope out of Miami who was a basketball player who was a great special teamer for us. Thanksgiving Day, we're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers, little roll right, punt pass and kick that thing. How far to go? I don't remember. How could you have the highest QBR without it being a touchdown? Yeah, it's that we made up.

It's called Thanksgiving Day. On Thanksgiving Day. But I think they say should have been a touchdown. Should have been a touchdown. Here's punt pass and kick, Coach Harbaugh. Do you guys do any of this with the kickers and punters? Any athletic shit whenever you work them out? Yeah, we we we uh JK Scott. He's got a he's got a good throwing arm. Yeah, he threw one this this year we had a fake against Atlanta did not did not pick it up, but

Those are always the worst We actually did we did we didn't we didn't he the throw was good the route was good We didn't execute didn't we didn't hit that throw was good. The route was good We didn't execute the blocking is as well You like a good fake or no, you're taking yeah, you're taking they work when they work. Okay, so Whenever I was young I used to play like scouting quarterback for the defense first three years here at the Colts Okay, so I'd work out the linebackers and then I would go throw on the shell basically hard whole thing Like seven on seven or were you throwing? Yeah, we had no yeah hold that had like a linebacker safety. I don't know what it's called you seven on seven

Yeah, probably with the but it was yeah, I was trying to shit Skelly. So yeah, baby Skelly. Yeah, that's it. That's the word Yeah, I was doing Skelly skeleton. Yeah, we got it instead of the trenches got yeah, that's what I was doing. Well, you had to be good then if they trusted you do that Yeah, I was spinning it I was spinning a little bit but I wanted to I wanted to take it into a game I want to take it into a game, you know, yeah, so I present I'm like hey fake punts are dope You know the NFL I see it I can spin it like I can I can throw it I feel very good played quarterback growing up whenever we played backyard or street football Was one of the first ones to go telephone pole to telephone pole. Okay.

I could get it the whole length of the field. So I was all time quarterback a lot of the times. Let's do this thing. And I think it was coach Caldwell. Oh, maybe it was Polly. I forget. I forget who I was having a conversation with. I was doing it in jest, but certainly suggesting, you know, it was like, come on, let the boys split, like, you know, like kind of one of those. And the answer I got back back was so let me get this straight. We're gonna take Peyton Manning off the field. Okay I laugh so hard. I was like, yeah There was Andrew Luck and it was like, yeah, all right. Yeah, we get one of these every good news They had the free kick this year. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool

So how long were you waiting on were you emergency quarterback? Okay. Yeah, I used to take like 20 snaps I had four we had four runs could flip them and then obviously we had one Over the top in there They only had the tush push in back when you played, they would probably put you in for the... Okay, thank you for hosting the show and bringing up a topical thing that I should ask you about. How do you feel about the tush push? This is very topical.

How much of a conversation is actually happening behind the scenes about maybe getting rid of it, and how much are you guys being actually listened to, you think? I'm not really involved in it. I mean, right now it's a legal play. You gotta stop it, or get good at it and running it yourself I guess with the Incident for a push on I'm not saying they should, I'm just saying they have done shit like this before and talking

to you changed my entire opinion on the hip drop tackle. We're at the owners meetings last year and I saw you in the hallway, you were doing an interview with Schefter and your brother, which ended up being awesome. I don't know when they aired it this year, whenever the hard probably whenever you guys played each other or whatever. But I said, how do you feel about the hip drop tackle? And I thought you would be a guy that hated it because, you know, football were taking away tackling. You're like, just this can't happen. Just the in you grab me. I was like, yeah, barba still got it. And then you did like the ripping motion. You thought it should have been

gone. And like, I respect the way you view things. And right there on the tush push, it sounded like a guy's did a great job across the league didn't they I mean it was I mean it got it needed to get out of the game it was out of the game and I just thought I mean the players responded beautifully okay so Joe so riddle me this who would make that decision the competition committee which is coaches players well no it's it's the group that sets. I they get the future of football Suggestions the board and then competition committee gets together this out here and then they presented to us at the owners meetings What a process so much shit. Yeah, so many different levels. I think Tomlin's Tomlin and variable were on it before

Yeah, I don't know a couple years ago. I need Jim Horbo on that. Yeah, that should be. Hey, don't want to give you another job. Right. But sounds like something you should be a part of. You epitomize everything that we love about ball coach. You need to know that. And Mr. Ortiz. Appreciate it. Yeah, we love ball, man. We really do. Mr. Ortiz, phenomenal work, man. Good shit. Absolutely. Every time you talk, we like you more. And every time you do something with your team, phenomenal work, man. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Every time you talk, we like you more. And every time you do something with your team, your team gets better. So I think those are two things that are very good

for somebody that's in your position and we can't wait to watch you guys grow. Appreciate it. Hey, thank you for stopping by. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Ortiz and Coach Harbaugh. Yeah.

Hey, thank you. Thanks, guys. Hey, we don't have to eat. Yeah, I think you guys should just get up. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, coach, coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll take one of those as well. Thanks, coach. Coach, appreciate you, man. Thank you. Pleasure. Good luck. No, you're all right. Us.

That was not us. Hey, you're the man. Appreciate you making the cool and popular. No. You do that yourself. Ah, that's him talking shit. Yeah. I think. No That's him talking shit, I think yeah, thanks for making me cool popular I think it's being genuine. That's awesome

What if like somebody presents him like hey Mac fee would like you to go on the show and then he watches the show and he's like He's making people look cool He's the best is the man national champion with everything that happened that year and then everything that we've learned Afterwards, it's like for him to remain who he was. It's like yeah,, I love this guy. Yeah, well, he's always himself. He's only got one way. And you asked what I was going to ask about the Eagles winning, winning.

Like, does that kind of give you guys confidence? Because you guys, like, that's exactly what Harbaugh did at Michigan. And then Joe comes over from Ravens, who was basically O-line, D-line Howie. And he said it. He was like, yeah, that made me think, like, we're doing the right thing.

Yeah, I think so. And it's, I appreciate that coach Harbaugh learned in real time that that is what we do whenever we talk about yourself and he like, yeah, he likes it. He likes it a lot. What if he's gonna have to create one of these for his desk? Yeah, I don't know if we get the robotics to work in the entire thing. I saw some robot. What's that? Well, he's like, what thing too is like, not dizzy world,

the things they got to operate. I don't know. Oh, crazy. Oh, robot. Crazy too was like the... Not Disney World, the things they gotta operate. He's not crazy. Oh, robots. Oh, animatronics. You talking about the thing you said this morning? Like Ursula. No, I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about Disney. You talking about Ursula?

Disney's got... Hey, I'll tell you what. He's got some robot birds. Connor, have you ever been to Disney World? Have you ever rode any of these rides? I've been one time and then I've also been to the Universal Studios, which is awesome. Okay, so I have never, you know, that's not something, one time and then I've also been to the Universal Studios. Which is awesome.

Okay so I have never, you know, that's not something I've, I've never watched a Disney movie. Like I don't really know, I guess Mighty Ducks is a Disney movie. Yes. Heavyweights. Yes, so I've seen those but I've never seen the... Animated ones. Pocahontas, Snow White, Cinderella.

Never. Not one, I know nothing about it. I still, like, I've learned the names. I got the names in there. But it's like, I never really experienced it. So with Mackenzie, it's my first time experience a lot of this stuff. I'll tell you what, it makes sense. So high quality stuff.

High quality. High quality stuff. No doubt. Like this Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, the amount of dances and songs. Great show. Things they're teaching. Stretch break. The stretch break is awesome.

Stretch break is great. You need to, it's almost the boom, but you know. Damn. Yeah, as I're teaching. The stretch break is awesome. The stretch break is great. It's almost the boom, but you know, as I was watching, I was doing it all. But so Disney World was a complete foreign entity to me. And we're doing these rides. They got the old school rides. Obviously we hopped on Dumbo's, which was cool. T-Cops was very, very cool.

But the amount of money they spend on these rides to get these LED robot things that they're creating Man that was it was a great experience. It was a very I had a very very great experience. I was Obviously the people at ESPN and Disney hooked it up. Sure. Yeah, I mean not Big-time asshole at one point during that trip. I heard about it. OK, Foxy. Who is that? That's what I heard.

That's what people are saying. So. Darth Vader walking around? So I, so wife and I, with Mackenzie, doing this for Mackenzie, want to hit the Avatar ride, though. Obviously. Heard the Avatar ride is awesome. After you're there.

So shout out to Kelsey, who is one of the security that was with us, and John John and Michael who was walking us around John been at the park for 35 years Michael been given tours nine years guys from Columbus, Ohio knew the ins and outs like we're talking it was It was fantastic. So not a very relatable Disney experiences what I'm learning from conversations With people who have been to Disney all the bad things of Disney from what I've been controlled I

Didn't it was 62 degrees 65 degrees so it was like super packed everything was it was not super packed I mean I didn't even know so They had me just me and Mackenzie's it was I can't think everybody included enough in that and I think Foss had a big Part of this entire thing and obviously dizzy doing it was, I can't think everybody included enough in that. And I think Foss had a big part of this entire thing and obviously Dizzy doing it was very, very kind. But after we ride Avatar, we're ready to go home. And Michael goes, you got to ride Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, that is a good one.

Sounds good. It's the greatest roller coaster ever created. He said, I say, whoopty-woo. Okay. Cause I, I'm from the home of Kenny Wood, my man. Okay. So whoopty-woops are no problem. Well, so he said no whoopty-woops, but still greatest of all time.

He's like, you gotta go ride it. We gotta go to Epcot though, which is experimental, something P community of tomorrow is what Epcot stands for. Shout out to Michael for the stat on the way over there. So as we go there, we're driving over there. Once again, I have no idea about Disney or Disney World or any of this. He asked, according to the guy, he's so good, he's giving us breakin' us down, everything. And he says, you want your own train?

Okay, and I said, yeah, sure, sure, I don't know what that means. He was asked, I said, absolutely. So most of these rides, we pay for this thing, but the option to pay for it I think is optional, you know, I don't think it's like a thing that's just like presented So we just got like rate all these things. We just got like back door right in it was paid a lot But it was certainly and nobody saw us Nobody okay, so it took away the guilt that you certainly would have had sure Guardians of the Galaxy own train I'll tell you what that means. That means you're the only one on the entire thing okay that's what own train me and

they walked me and Sam right in front of everybody everybody all those people all this walks right in front of them go to the front the front one to the front one they put us on nobody else, all those people. Oh, I walked right in biggest assholes of all time everybody So so there so if you're in there, I'm so sorry. I did not know what I had signed up He's majestic isn't it we're taking a look at the future of the greatest league in the NFL. You know, some guy will come into this particular building in this glorious city and change their future entirely.

Some guys, and I mean, there's a little static in the ears. I think we're catching up somebody else's maybe signal. But the reason why that could be the case is because all eyes are on this particular stadium where some guys could potentially project themselves a whole new life. You run a 4-2 out here and nobody knows your name? All of a sudden everybody knows your name. You run a 4-3 out here, 4-4 out here, let's say you're 295 pounds, nobody's really talking about you. From a small school you come out here you run a 4-6, four six five four seven or something like that Yeah, all of a sudden. Holy hell is this guy an NFL guy lives change at the combine and we're incredibly lucky that we are here as well

We're fresh off a vacation in the first hour We had Harbaugh and Hortiz the two that are paired with changing the culture the Los Angeles Chargers They're obviously out here for medical and to chit chat with the culture of the Los Angeles Chargers. They're obviously out here for medical and to chit chat with the players of the future. Speaking of chit chatting, it is difficult to do with the amount of static that is in my ear currently. Let's head over to the boys that are also here. The toxic table at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt.

Are you guys hearing what I'm hearing? Yeah, certainly. It feels like a worm is crawling through my brain right now. Like a couple chewing. Like a couple crickets probably having sex is kind of what it sounds like. It does sound on top of each other. Some alien communication perhaps, I don't think we can rule that out either. Yeah, whatever the case is, there's a chance we see some aliens out on this field today.

Mm-hm. Today, the kickers will take the field, okay? And that is something that was not being reported by any of the NFL journalists, by any of the NFL insiders. You know, everybody is talking about what's going on on Thursday, what's going on on Friday, what's going on on Saturday. All right. Elimination chamber Saturday night, by the way, after your combine actually go ahead and check in. There's going to be some inside in Toronto Canada. Then Sunday what's going on

nobody's talking about what's going on today on that field kickers punters snappers are about to have a specialist showcase and in this showcase they will be competing against each other and this is completely run by special teams coaches in

the past this used to be a scouts thing. Scouts come out hit some field goals hit some points hit kickoffs. Now they're like teaming up kickers, points, potential like pressure punts gonna have to happen. They wanna find out if guys are able to do it

whenever there's some stuff that's happening around them. So I think it's gonna be pretty electrifying out here this afternoon. 2.45, I will be on the microphone on the field on NFL Network and NFL Plus. And I think we're gonna try to steal a little bit some as well on YouTube. I don't know how that's gonna go. What? Now just just a quick glance. In case something gets left on. Yeah I don't know how long you're allowed to just quick glance. No it's just part of the situation. Wires got crossed. So I'm very

excited for these guys to put on a showcase today legitimately and there's jobs opening up. There's jobs in the NFL when it comes to kickers partners so they are legitimately kicking off the NFL combine right now Foxy if you want to cut to the field they currently are kicking off like actually I think this one matters okay let's go bub here go. This is from the 35 yard line. Now remember there is a landing zone, but I believe this workout will be done in a fashion in which Foxy, do you want to zoom this thing out whenever it goes?

Um, they will be asked to blast some balls. I don't think that was a, um, that must have been a landing zone. That's a good landing zone kick. That's a good landing zone kick. I hope a good land zone kick. That's a good land zone kick. I hope. I hope to God that is the case.

So that is the interesting thing. As they're trying to piece together what kicks, what punts, what kickoff, it's like, do we want to see how strong their legs are? Because that's going to matter late in the year for these kickoffs. Or do we want to see if they can hit in the landing zone? So I think they're hitting like three deep, three landing zone

ones, trying to get as much as they can. So that could have been a landing zone kick. But nonetheless, we are officially off and running here on the scouting of tomorrow. Yeah, you wonder how long the landing zone is really going to matter. Just because how many landing zones do we have in the Super Bowl? None. Every single kick was kicked out the back. Like, do you think they're going to change that?

They're saying it's your microphone. They said it's your microphone. Oh, that's great. It's you. It's you. It's you. It's you. It's you. It's you great Connor Looks like we know why they're trying to shut me down because I brought up the birds in the first No, it is it was Connor

Connor I'll tell you what buddy. I love you. It's been great to see you. Yeah. I'll say this. If, and nobody, could anybody else hear that noise? Like could the show hear that? We heard it. Oh, I could hear it. So like going out to the TV or YouTube here?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like it was the stream. Yes, YouTube heard it as well. Okay. Okay, sorry, I heard only one ear works in this thing too. Hardball is a dog for Awesome Cortez was stepping on oh, he didn't say come just looked out and just yanked it I was watching the whole thing. It was incredible. I don't want you. Oh come on. I didn't watch the

Oh, come on. I didn't watch the... Someone's in here. We lost, I don't know what that even means, what Zito just said. We lost the first hour of YouTube, but it's loading back up, we don't know what happened. It's going well here at the Combine. Very nice.

It's going well, hey. It's going well. All right. All right, true. It was an honor to be here. Yeah. In theory, we're gonna, yeah, this is good. This is, okay, we're going to, yeah, this is good. This is, OK, we're currently live.

We're back in good. OK. All right. We were only down for 20 seconds on YouTube. Oh, man. OK, sounded pretty, I mean, the news. The news were straight. The news were delivered to me.

I'm assuming Bill, you know, shit a brick. And he got into Zito's ear. And then maybe some wires got crossed. And the Foxy's always the voice of reason. That's where I go. OK, and let's learn from this going forward. We should probably do day before back, so we can work through some stuff,

because we were off for a long time. Long time. And also day before, potentially, a little bit more set up lead up. But if we work yesterday, we can't set up down here. But if we're not set up, did we set up down here? It's kind of tough. Yeah, tough situation.

Maybe just a little go live, shoot the breeze. No one actually watching. Yeah, no one actually watching. Private. Make sure everyone kind of gets there. This LED board insane right here. So sweet. Yeah.

Combine awesome. Is that ours? Did we? Yeah, we did. Yep. We added it in last minute. Because there was a black, you can see it, the black tar tarp right behind there and that is NFL Network on the other side. Oh Like rich and DJ and boys I believe and I seen rap

I've seen rap for kind of roll around a little bit and the guys talked. No, he doesn't Rap brings a lot of business to this city remember that's true He's had some good tweets lately. Yeah Joining us now. What do you tweet a senior NFL insider for ESPN? Michigan man friend of the program ladies and gentlemen Adam He's doing it right. Oh, real guy. Wow. That was really good operating. Jack Schefftler. Hey, this one here.

This one here over here. Hey, if you can't hear it in your other ear, let me know. Let's see. I got it. Can't hear you here in both ears. We're good. Okay. We're good.

This is a big time operation. Yeah, it's a lot. We got in here and we saw it and we're like, massive thank you to everybody involved in setting this thing up. There's 1,000 lights in front of us. The lighting is, it looks, it feels like we're on a state, because we kind of are here. Everybody behind the scenes, massively well done. So thank you for joining us, Chef. By the way, great to be in your city again.

I was driving into the airport from the airport last night with a guy. I gave him a ride I said, how old are you said 31? I said I've been coming to the combine longer than you've been alive. Holy hell Okay, so thank you for enjoying our city and coming to Indianapolis A lot of things happen here that aren't just on the field. Obviously a lot of business gets done here Is that still the case that was always kind of the rumor is that still happening. You're wheeling and dealing last night learning stuff or is there, how's it going for you versus how's it going for the NFL team? I go to bed early, Pat. I'm not one of those guys. I'd rather go to bed early and get started early. Really? Always. How early? So you're not wheeling and dealing around Indianapolis? No, I can tell you this.

Most reporters, everybody's going out all night drinking, hanging out. I don't do that. Take advantage of the drunks. They lose lips when they start drinking. By the way, there's fights that break out. It's like... What? There's been fights over the years. Vanderfield versus Rapp? All kinds of stuff.

I think the big thing everybody could potentially kind of jog a memory of what does happen in Indianapolis during this combine. Remember Jerry Jones took it down and Dean Blandino was on a bus. And they took it from, I think they took it from like Kilroy's to maybe like. Like St. Louis. Like whatever, it was like right down the road

and he comes off the bus and everybody's like, what the hell is going on? And it felt like everybody was like, let's relax. Let's not, let's not be talking about this. Let's move on. Cause it is, it has always been just like a legal tamper. To me, the combine is always the unofficial start of the offseason because we've got the new league year beginning in two weeks.

You've got every coach here, every front office member here, every agent here, every agent is looking to see what his client's worth. Every front office guy is looking to see how he could get his team better every coaches at Valley with the prospects it's all happening it's one big football carnival that goes on in so this is like a kickoff happy hour to the offseason here at Indianapolis for lack of a better phrase that's a good way of describing it okay so what are we hearing around town because let me tell you what certainly caught my eye

Anytime a guy who's in the NFL who is warranted of a massive and we might have breaking news from a lap of Schefter three in between his lap We can move you that side table if you want it we could get you a little side table You want to put the phone up there? If you want to, instead of each one look down here. No, we're good. We're good, right? Yeah, just look down. It's where I put, by the way, that's my preferred placement.

That's a good spot. It's the best. That's where you put your phone if you're cheating in school. Is that? Yeah. OK, so I went to high school at the time. Nonetheless. I would never put my phone up.

Anytime a wide receiver who is warranted a lot of money, is that an organization that doesn't normally pay everybody? Obviously not everybody does, but the bangles certainly in the conversation of their own. He puts out a tweet that's just like one emoji, a blue cap. Yeah. Just saying, Hey, that's bullshit. What's going on? That may be happen out there. That is a lie. What are you hearing about the T Higgins, Duke Tobin situation where he talked about paying him and getting something done and like kind of saying it's gonna happen it's gonna be big-time top of the market and then T immediately responded with cap what does that mean is there like what

are you hearing about that entire situation and how do you think it works so I never love in this day and age when we're trying to decipher emoji that's real life though that's real life though. That's real life. Welcome to real life. Well, it means capping, right? It means like... He be capping. Yeah, he be capping. He's going dummy.

Not mad dummy. On capping. On capping. Dude told me to be dummy. I didn't know what this means until last night, so I'm getting up to speed on my emojis. It means bullshit. And my capping terminology. Look, right now, the Bengals have their stance,

and T. Higgins has got his. I think in the end, look, if we take out what everybody thinks, it's probably good business from the Bengals' standpoint to tag the guy, to control his rights. Duh. Hold on. By the way... No, that's a Patriots fan. By the way...

He's pissed. Well, hold on, we're going to get to him in a second. We're not done. Okay. We're tied together. I'm not out on a drink. Please, I'm on a stage. Please, please.

Kind of sit back. We'll get to the push. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride that Adam Schefter's taking you on. Okay. So, in my mind, it's probably wise for them to tag him. The tag is $26 million. On the open market

He's gonna get over 30 a year right so of course you tag the guy And you try to work towards a long-term deal, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of tagging and trading Oh, what are the rules with the trade what are the rules with the trade? What are they? Oh if you're tagged well, I think in this particular case, I have to brush up on my terminology, but I think he could negotiate with other teams and then he could agree to sign some kind of offer sheet and the two sides could negotiate compensation. I think it's like two picks is where it starts. Two ones or one one or something like that. Yeah, but they could agree to the compensation. They could agree. Oh, so they can get around that. So that is not something that's in the rules. It's not going to be two ones hard and fast or even a one hard and fast.

Boom. Okay. Let's put this out there right now. The Patriots are not giving a pick number four for T Higgins no matter how good he is. That's just not going to happen. Got it. Right?

So now the question is, okay, so what is doable if that is the team that they decide to sure engage in and New England has all the cap room and and they got compensation and opportunity got high picks in the second and third and variables cutting bars out there we got compensation and opportunity up here in New England yeah if that's what you're looking for I guess we're the right spot you're not gonna I don't think the Patriots are going to be able to or the Patriots or any team will be able to just go sign T Higgins and move on the way that is the case with some true unrestricted free agents. All right Let's stay in Cincinnati then let's stay in Cincinnati Trey Hendrickson came on our show Radio Robe and He's a strapping lad. He really is. He's a strapping lad. He's a great guy. Great guy. Zach Lee, Zach King last year.

They love him in the organization. And since he? Not that much. Well, yeah, we'll find out. Yeah, we'll see. Anyway, continue on. No, that's what I was asking. Yeah, he said you either pay me or trade me.

He kind of said that. Now, he said in a much more professional and kind manner. Correct. But it was like, hey, come on, because he didn't want to do it. No. It feels like he didn't want to do it no like he I feel like he didn't want to do it he thought he probably earned like hey I'm not the one that should be having to do this but if we're just gonna be talking about stuff like something needs to be said so I respect him doing that and appreciate him doing it but now what is the other

side of that you think for Duke you said they respect him in the organizations I mean they're gonna get a deal done or they're gonna be like the Cincinnati Bengals, which they are the Cincinnati Bengals. It's a hard deal to get done. It's a hard deal to get done because you're talking about a guy that led the NFL in sacks this year. And you're looking at an off season

in which TJ Watt is gonna have adjusted. You're gonna see a deal adjusted. There's a few defensive ends. There's a couple of others. Garrett, Miles Garrett, Micah is coming up. Micah is another one. There's a few of them. Josh Sweatt is going to kill it in free agency.

So Trey Hendrickson, what is his production worth when he has gotten more sacks than guys who have gotten big deals in recent years like Josh Allen Hines in Jacksonville like I think there's a team out there that's gonna be willing to pay him yeah and he's awesome you talked to the kind of guy you want to have on your team yeah he's a great culture builder like it just feels like that as soon as he walks in. Good luck, Cincinnati. This is like, well, here's the thing. It's what happens.

We're going to watch a still on. And Jamar is going to be they say in their own words, the highest paid non-quarterback in football history. The Bengals said that. And that's what they earned. So hold on. It could be capping. Now we don't know.

We haven't seen the tweet. By the way, you could make it such that Jamar's cap number this year is conducive to getting deals done for everybody else. But there are a lot of players to sign. There's a lot of money to lay

out. I think the Bengals are saying all the right things. But let's see what they actually do. You got it. Got a question for you. Shifty.

I do. If we were to play quarterback musical chairs let's say with Stafford, Rogers, Justin Field, Russell Wilson, what do we think is going to happen? That's a pretty interesting... Well, is Stafford the first domino to fall? 100%. And unless Pittsburgh feels like there's no chance we're going to get a deal done for

Matthew Stafford, we're just going to go sign. Oh, those are all quarterbacks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. No, no, those are the quarterback names that are out there right now. Free agency. Yeah. And they're all tied together to a certain extent. And they're all, I believe, waiting on Matthew Stafford. All teams that are interested in quarterback right now are interested in Matthew Stafford.

Well, let's see. You give me the teams. Okay. So Giants, obviously. Raiders. Pittsburgh. Hmm. Indianapolis Colts. Haven't heard them with him. Braans? I mean the Vikings.

No. Not the Vikings? For Stafford, no. Oh, for Stafford, no. Who are you talking about? We're talking about Stafford. But you said not for Stafford. So that means Aaron for the Vikings? No, Aaron. Oh, wait a minute.

We're him hauling around. No, no, no. We're him. Give me a moment to answer the question. Come on, man. How many moments do you need? That's how we work, Shepty. Moments you need.

We need to get to it. I don't want Pat saying, like, he's withholding it for me. Like, what am I withholding? I'm trying to answer you. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to hear. Yeah, you tell us. Come on, man. With Aaron, I think we start with the fact

that you have to see where Matthew's gonna go. Is Matthew going back to LA or is he not going to LA? Because if he's not going to LA, I'm sure that LA appeals to Aaron Rodgers. That would be my guess. Okay. And you would know probably better than I, but I believe that Aaron wants to play.

I believe he wants to play at least another year. I believe he's got a chip on his shoulder He wants to come back and play this upcoming season and show people that he still has the juice and still can get it done So I think he's gonna play now. You may have some different information. You can correct me at any mind I don't want you with all the information On us Pat Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't withhold information on us, Pat. Do your job, Chester. Don't withhold information on us, Pat. Lads, please. I reported earlier that my source says

have told me that they're out of the country right now. And they've also told me that they're open to everything attached to nothing. Okay. Which certainly means retirement as an option. Okay. Always. Which certainly means retirement as an option. Okay. Yeah.

Always has. Yeah. Yeah. Last couple years, I think, especially at that age with that resume, with the amount of money accrued, I think he's highest paid guy. Yeah. Ever. Ever in there.

So like with everything. So now it goes back to that. He cut a promo about football on our show about why he loves it. And it's like his need for competition, like he needs to compete. And the NFL is his outlet basically to compete against others. And although he is a hippie,

and although these past couple years with the Jets have certainly gone horrendously. I suggest. Maybe. Probably. Don't you want that to be answered? Is how I kind of... Do you think he wants to go out like that?

So, I would say AJ is the closest person to Aaron Rodgers, okay? AJ, not with us because he's got Buckeye Cruz, okay? Congrats to the Buckeyes going out on a cruise. That'll be fun. That's gonna be a good one. We will see him next week. AJ is, I think, I don't want to speak for, once again, don't want to speak for Aaron, but I think AJ very close with Aaron.

I think AJ would tell you if he was here, it's like, maybe, but like maybe something happens. And it's like, maybe he's back in. But I don't think he, I think Aaron is literally open to everything. I think he's a deep thinker too. So he's a hippie, he's a deep thinker. People have their issues with a decision

he made during COVID and everything like that. But like whenever it comes to like being a competitor and like everything that's on the line right now, like I think he takes it very, very, very seriously, like incredibly seriously, especially cause it's like legacy stuff, you know. Anything could happen with him. But you said it yourself,

your mind the last two seasons went horrendous. I have a hard time believing that when there's going to be a team that is interested in having him come in with this way the last two seasons went, that he's not going to do it. Agreed. I agree with you. I'm saying, but I've not heard that from source. That's what I'm saying. That's fine.

And we've talked about as soon as the Jets turnover, it's like, he's probably not going to be there either. And I think he's still, I think he was very cool with going back to Jets and like leading, maybe potentially a younger guy helping in the thing and making it right with the Jets people. I think he legitimately did not like that the Jets hype beforehand and how happy Jets fans were and how much hope there was and then not delivering on that. I think that actually like, I wait up. So I think he did want to go back. I think we all talk about football. Every single day we're like new GM new coach

That's probably not gonna happen, you know in reality. So I think he's gonna play still I think a lot of people think he's gonna play still but and again, so let's go through this for a moment if Stafford Decides to move on and the Rams decide to trade them if why would that happen? What why why is this happening? It's a great question. Every year feels like that's I think that's part of the problem. Like it keeps coming up. And why does he keep coming up? It shouldn't be coming up. I think that he should be happy with them.

They should be happy with him. And there are issues that both sides have been working through. And I think in this particular case, he's on a contract where he's scheduled to make twenty seven million, no guaranteed money. You have to adjust the contract. You've given the... I think that's probably what it is. That could be it.

Hold on, hold on. So now you've given the agent permission to go out and see what other teams would be willing to offer, and you probably find that other teams are willing to offer more, right? So now it comes down to what Matthew Stafford wants to do. Do you want to leave a place where you've had a great run here, where you've won a Super Bowl, where your family is set up?

Or do you want to go for more money to another one of these franchises that's interested in a city you haven't lived in? And I think that basically is where we're at. And do you think there are franchises in a city that he's never lived in that are interested and willing to pay? Yes. And willing to pay? Yes. And trade? Yes.

Okay, so when's that happening? Is that just going to happen? He might want to be in LA. He may decide that, okay, you know what? I think that's what... Oh, so he's on a listen offer right here.

Like, you're just listening to what people... Okay, right. So you're willing to offer me this and you would do this and I'm talking to Rams and they want me back and they're willing to... And they have an offer too, obviously. And they have an offer too, like, okay. So you're willing to offer me this and you would do this and you did and I'm talking to Rams and they want me back and they're willing to do it. And they have an offer too, obviously.

And they have an offer too, like, okay, but their offer might not be as long or as much as other teams. So, okay, well, what do I want to do? It seems like you're showing me more love and you're showing me more love, but you also haven't won and you haven't won. And you're not close to winning. But I'm in a place where... What the hell? Hypothetical. Hypothetical. No disrespect.

Geez. And so here I got the Rams and it's not exactly perfect the way I want it to be money-wise, but I don't have to move to you or you or you, and I'm probably going to be more competitive. I feel like my best chance to win may be here, although I'm confident enough that I can help you win, I can help you win, I can help you win. I can turn on the lawyer for Anshak. So what do I want to do?

Man, I'll tell you what, dude, I was good acting. That was. Good hypnotic. That was really good. What is that, SAG, I was good acting. That was. Good hypothetical. Shepter needs his own ride at Disney. That was really good. What is that, SAG, those awards the other ones? Yeah.

Those were fun. Timothy Chalamet? Yeah. Oh yeah. Get the guy, Mike, please. What are we doing? Timothy Chalamet, did you meet him at game day? That guy's unbelievable.

He's the best. He's a doll. He is a doll. You should listen to him in that new Bob Dylan movie. It's so good. Off the charts. Yeah, he crushed it. He's going to win the is a dog. You should listen to him in that new Bob Dylan movie. It's so good. Off the charts. Yeah, he crushed it. He's going to win the Oscar this Sunday, right?

I don't know. I don't know that world enough. Ty Wood, no. I don't think so. Who? Who? Who? Adrian Brody, I think. The brutalist, they're saying, is going to sweep everything. He won at second. That is brutal, Eddie.

He stole my breath. It's the kind of movie that's made to win those type of awards. I just don't think Chalamet is going to. Although Rami Malek won it not too long ago. There's a chance. Wow, he was great. And those movies that won all the awards, they're the poopy movies, but people love them. No, yeah, yeah.

I've seen all of those movies. That's what I find in my world when I watch these award shows. Wow, nice outfits. And then I learn, oh, I don't know any of this shit. I don't know it. We're talking movies, soundtrack songs. I don't, actors will pop up there. You don't know much about Bob Dylan?

So I know Bob Dylan. When Timmy popped up there, now, you asked me if I know Timmy? Yeah, I fucking know Timmy Shaller. Please. Is he your cell phone? Like we FaceTime him? No, no, we're not that close.

I knew nothing of him before game day, college game day. And then he came in, did the kick, then he did his picks, knew his shit. Oh my god, he knows stuff. But he was like cool, like very, like this guy's a superstar. Yeah, like people were going crazy over this guy. Brought his mom to the SAG awards. Yeah, and he was dapping these people up.

The way he was interacting, like, was like, and he was so, it was, he was fucking awesome. Like he was- He is, he's gifted. I liked that he said too, like, Michael Phelps and Michael Jordan are also inspiration. Like, I'm not just trying to be here. And his mom, 35 years in the union or whatever. To the Phillies.

It's like, I didn't know he grew up in this space. So this is like, this is like Peyton. He grew up in an apartment in New York and his family was in that, in theater. Yeah, his mom. Right? He loves ball too. He loves ball.

There's footage of him from back in the day at the Knicks game. A huge basketball guy. Yeah, he loves ball. So that's a sports guy. In my eyes, that's a sports guy. When you watched him on college game day, you could not speak the way that he did

with the depth of knowledge that he had and not be a huge sportsman that guy was read he was incredible so I saw some people that were haters and everybody has them and they will always exist the they said like well he just he just studied he's an actor

memorize memorize the notes or whatever it's like yeah but the way he was talking that guy knows ball like the way you confidently yeah and it was in the things he was saying little things are like oh yeah like actually knows ball here now this you can hear some things it's like oh you do what I do in this show okay where that is that is because there's so many teams so many humans so many games it's like you try your best to keep up with 132 schools that's

gonna be a tough thing to do. But then you've heard some shit. Yeah. I view him as a sports guy. Go get them all, Timmy. Is he an NFL fan too or not? I assume he knows ball. I assume at some point.

He's in New York though, so he's been just kind of brutalized by those teams. Giants interested, huh? Well, there's a lot of teams interested. Yeah, but I've heard that it feels like the Giants are the ones, right, that are like super interested. I think they're all interested. Everybody's super interested. I think lot of teams interested. Yeah, but I've heard that it feels like the Giants are the ones, right, that are like super interested. I think they're all interested.

Everybody's super interested. I think everybody's super interested. And Matthew Stafford. Any teams that we have not brought up yet? No, we've, you've run the gamut. Raiders, Giants, Steelers. And others have checked in. Others have checked in, but I think I've viewed that as kind of the playing field, so to speak. Ty has a question for you, Chef D. Others have checked in, but I think I've viewed that as kind of the playing field, so to speak.

Ty has a question for you, Shafdie. So one quarterback that we he's technically available, but maybe not Kirk Cousins. Terry Fontenot said yesterday, like, hey, we're comfortable with just sticking with this guy. He'll be the backup. We've talked it like that's probably not going to be the case. The Browns might make sense. Is he completely separate from the other guys? Like, what happens with Stafford? Does that matter at all to what is going to potentially happen with Kirk Cousins? Yeah, I think he's separate.

I think he's a separate case. And I know the Falcons have said all that they've said. The Broncos said something similar last year about Russell Wilson, and then they wound up releasing him. And I'd be surprised if Kirk Cousins is in Atlanta this season however it plays out I mean that that I just don't see it that way but if they want to pay their backup quarterback more money and sink another 10 million

and guaranteed money into him then then I guess he can be there so what happens he gets entered into the quarterback sweepstakes that are happening Browns right well the thing is if it see he's got a no trade clause you see so he would have to sign off a good veto every trade so eventually I think I think the Falcons have to release him and if and when he is released. You hope it will be sooner rather later while there are quarterback chairs because the way it's later they don't know

anything but they could do it later and then he he doesn't really have an ideal landing spot. The sooner they let him go, the more options he would have, and the Falcons already are paying his salary, which is why a team like, I'm not telling it'll be the Browns, but the Browns make sense because they've got other financial commitments

and obligations. He's got a relationship with Kevin Stefanski. He's a Midwestern guy. What came out about Stefanski today on the report card? He was one of the three lowest coaches. Right, coaches. Stefanski. Lowest coaches in what? The players, brother.

This is the players speaking, you know. You guys used to decide who gets hurt. Now the NFLPA does a report card, brother. And they say, this guy stinks. Here's what the players are saying. that was that locker room with the proper people to be reading their judgment good question you know that's the whole that's now that's the follow-up debate like hey that team stinks so do we care what they think about these things did he not win the coach of the year twice

yeah but that's from you guys not me I'm not a voter well I you know Tony no I voted KLC one time. Yeah, let's talk about the Vikings. Who are they? So they're just Sam Darnold's going back. What's we'll see about that. Oh, JJ. Well, if you listen to the general manager,

crazy, the Fomentza talk yesterday, he certainly talked like a guy whose team was committed to J.J. McCarthy. That's what that was my read between the lines. They haven't said anything and we'll see. What they say, we wanna spend more money. Just talked about how much confidence they have in JJ McCarthy. JJ's a great guy and I think he's got a really bright future

and he's got a chance to be a really good quarterback. And they invested the high pick in him and I think they absolutely believe in him. And because of all those factors and the way that it finished at the end of the season for Sam, I think that they have absolutely believe in him. And because of all those factors and the way that it finished at the end of the season for Sam, I think that they have an interest in Sam, but what is the number that it's going to be for Sam? And is there another team out there that is willing to pay Sam more?

And so now we're back to Matthew Stafford, because is Matthew Stafford staying in LA? If he's staying in LA, well then the Raiders didn't get him. And if the Raiders didn't get him, I think the Raiders would have an interest in Sam Darnold. But what if the Raiders get Matthew Stafford staying in LA? If he's staying in LA, well then the Raiders didn't get him. And if the Raiders didn't get him, I think the Raiders would have an interest in Sam Darnold. But what if the Raiders get Matthew Stafford? Then what happens to Sam Darnold? Then there's one less option. So you could see where the tentacles of the Stafford

situation reach out and impact guys like Sam Darnold and Aaron Rodgers. So Kevin O'Connell, we feel like, can make anybody a good quarterback. So far has. So like it feels like that is who he is and who he's going to be as a coach and then we heard that clip from the

locker room where he's chewing the boys out and it's like hey Kevin O'Connell coach of the year for good reason this guy knows ball so if you don't want to spend as much money on the quarterback maybe it makes sense yeah maybe it makes sense.

I think that they have an interest in Sam Donald but they have an interest in Sam there are that a certain number and now let's see how strong the market is for Sam Darlinall and whether there's a team out there, whoever it is, that's willing to pay him more than the Vikings are. Go ahead Connor. Yeah speaking of markets obviously we're at the combine

here it's wonderful. Indianapolis, Lucas Oil. What's the status with the number one overall pick? Borganzi has said you know he'll listen is there a guy this year where it's like a lot of teams are picking up steam cam ward has been mentioned in the Raiders are one of the teams that's been mentioned. I don't know if that is

legitimate or not. Where do you see the draft kind of fall and is it going to be everyone kind of stays Pat or do you think there will be some movement in the quarterbacks will be the top couple picks before like an Abdul Carter

and I think that the Titans have hired a new GM and Mike Borganzi, and they've rearranged their front office. And because of that, I don't think that they are as far along as some of these other teams that didn't have any changes on their board. And so the teams that have checked in with the Titans to see whether Tennessee would be willing to trade

pick number one, have been told, hey, we might be, but we're not there yet. Titans to see whether Tennessee would be willing to trade pick number one have been told hey we might be but we're not there yet we need to see how this process is going to play out. We want to go to Indy. We want to go to the quarterback pro days.

So we could eventually see Tennessee trade that number one pick but I don't think we're going to see anything happen with them for a while. Like we saw the Carolina Panthers trade for the number one overall pick from the Chicago Bears on March 10th.

We saw the New York Jets go from wherever they were one year to number three to draft Sam Darle, and I believe that might have been in early February, certainly no later than mid-March. I don't think the Titans are gonna make a move that early. If we see something with Tennessee, I think it'll go into April before they have a decision about what they're doing at one.

I think they're open-ended in a lot of different ways. So there's not clarity at the top about what Tennessee's gonna do. I do believe that Cleveland will go quarterback at two, no matter what, and it'd be interesting to see if they decide, hey, it's important enough, let's go from two to one to lock in the quarterback we want maybe that winds up happening we'll see but it's too early to play because to say how it's going to play out because Tennessee

really is still an information gathering mode. If you have Adam Scheffer's number please text him while he is speaking. I got a lot of text here already. Yeah we got anything. You could definitely do the checkup there if you want to. Because we're at the combine, so you can, Sheffield, you can do your thing while we chat about the point you just made there. So two, Cleveland Brown is taking quarterback.

That'll be interesting. Oh, yeah. That'll be interesting. Like, if that's the first quarterback that's taken, obviously who knows who goes up to one to potentially maybe get a quarterback that they want if they miss out on free agency or whatever the case is. It's like whenever you're talking to your NFL insider been around more combines than a 31 year old guy he was talking to outside he was born and raised in Indianapolis, Indiana.

So you're talking to everybody around here. What are they saying about this draft class? What is the conversation about this? A few things. I think that the strength of this draft according to the people who have really done insiders. Yes. All the people you've talked to you Personnel people middle rounds three four five a lot of good depth and talent there And I think the feeling is that the player you get at number ten in this draft

Is similar to the player that you get at 35? So there's a group in there where there's not a huge separation huge Payday difference. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah drafted 11 overall 34 overall man If you're in that bubble was have a big week here at any dance Yeah, I mean, how do you feel about the should or not throwing we saw that on a tweet Well, we don't we don't know whether cam ward is still like cam ward has been preparing Like he's going to throw he's worked up a bunch of stuff like he's gonna throw doesn't mean he's gonna throw Hasn't made a decision yet to the best of my knowledge. We'll see how he decides to handle it

but should or is not gonna Be here working with guys that he hasn't had timing with he's gonna wait to do it as pro day Okay, so we just had Jim Harbaugh on here and Jim Harbaugh talks about guys going out there and doing it He laughs he they probably love it. He wants everybody out here. Well he said, hey you have an opportunity or opportunity to compete right now. You have an opportunity to compete

because guys will come into meetings and they say, I wanna win at everything. I wanna win at chess, I wanna win at bocce ball, I wanna win at croquet. And he's like, well here's an opportunity, football. You can come win out here with the same group of wide receivers, the same balls. Now granted, you could get a crop wide receiver every round,

because there is a chance. Lottery, you get the seventh wide receiver, second quarterback, whatever running back in that thing. So you can get a bad mix of people, but if you come out here and do a show, and everything I've seen from Cam Ward and Shador Sanders clips, because they're training together down there in Dallas,

Cam Ward is coming out here to do this. Yeah, that's what I think. That is like who Cam Ward is. Like that feels, in those videos. I think that's been the idea. Now, whether he actually does it or not, we'll see. He hasn't committed one way or another, but I think he's gonna wind up throwing yours.

For the Cam Ward gimmick in those videos, he definitely comes out here and throws, and then he dunks on Shador the next day in training for not doing it. Like that is kind of the entire series that I'm seeing. The clips at least that I'm seeing out of the entire thing. Yeah for sure and if you're Cam Ward, if you know Shador's not going to throw out there, why wouldn't you come light this place on fire and then definitively be like, yeah I'm

the number one quarterback here. Like so we can do whatever we want but I'm going to be the first quarterback taken. But is what happens here, is that going to elevate him that much more and separate him? Like I potentially has a certain guys that have certainly boosted their stock here before everyone throws here has Jackson's art become the clear three right now. That's what it sounds like. And it sounds like he's going to be a one. So it sounds like how many QBs don't know that yet. I'm not there yet. Will Howard. He's in a conversation as a one night. I don't know that Yeah, I don't I don't think so. So I stake out at least Michigan. Yeah, that's true. That's fine

So I like I think I might get my invitation the cruise. I'm not happy. Will Howard's gonna be mid-round pick I'm here. I'm here. I don't know what to tell you now if I was invited on the cruise I'd have will Howard in the top 12. Sure. That's what people worry about with journalism these days. But I understand that that is not how it actually works with you, especially with the NFL. Jackson Dart can spin it, man. He's got the moxie that you want to have in the league. And then Cam Ward, obviously, these series with Shador, I'm learning a lot about him,

love this guy. And then they talk about what he did down in Miami. And then Shador, I think the thing that doesn't get talked about with Shador is how tough that Shador, I'm learning a lot about him, love this guy. And then they talk about what he did down in Miami. And then Shador, I think the thing that doesn't get talked about with Shador is how tough that, Shador is so tough. Shador got sacked more than any quarterback in the history of football. And he got up every single time. So he has the watches and the flash

and everything like that. But he does not like, it's not like he's a pre-Madonnor soft. Like it's a complete opposite almost. He feels like he has to go the complete opposite direction because of who he is and the life that he has lived and everybody thinking like, oh, you just get this because you're Deon's kid and everything.

So it's like, he can spin it. And obviously he's got Tom Brady as a mentor since high school. Tom Brady owns the Raiders, ran the entire interview process out there. And it's like his dad's Deon. So there is potential bloodline of greatness there that is in is in the he knows what it takes to be so I mean there's so many different conversations happening about all these guys it's pretty wild to think about what a day out here

could look like even though Shador's not throwing. Yeah Jackson Dart Ole Miss guy though so you're gonna have to check in on his father make sure everything kind of lines up there yeah just to make sure you know the right kind of culture type of guy. Yeah, is Jackson Dart of Ole Miss's dad snooping around? Which happens at Ole Miss. I mean, that's kind of a situation that can. Have you heard about Ole Miss? I've been there, the Grove. Okay, so you know about that, yeah.

So you have not heard about the last 12 hours. No, it sounds like not. There's a menage-a-trois that is making it. Really captivating. Boy, oh boy. I'll tell you what there's some Greek life getting caught in the question. Learn a lot about the KDs. Parents weekend's gonna be lit. I think they're actually not doing it this way. From what I've been told Don Arnold, have you heard anything about any of this? No. Because we said it your algorithms gonna pick that Well moving parts and one of them's a lot older than the other one

Yeah, one of them actually was Situations what I miss here Some kids dad FD There's a lot to it. It's some kids data is not a good situation for all parties trust is gonna be ruined forever by Oh, yeah, just forever like Some Ole Miss frat bro. Yep. Okay. Had a KD girlfriend. Allegedly.

This is a story we know. Allegedly. At this exact moment, this is what is being reported by everybody on the internet. That had sex with Son's girlfriend. Yeah, not great, not great. And then it was made public. Which is-

Now everyone knows. That's the absolute worst case situation. where where is Jackson Darden all this? Okay, we're trying to combine evaluate almost dads are slinging meat right now, so we got to get Jackson dark dad cleared Yeah, before he can be elevated. We would like to hear from Mr. Dart. That he's innocent. Not in this case, just in general, we'd like to maybe get some questions off. We have some questions on Ole Miss dads at the moment.

We have some questions on Ole Miss that he can spin it. And his moxie's insane. And we haven't talked about it much either because Ole Miss hasn't played in many meaningful, you know, since season and there's not a lot of meaningful football games. And that college football playoff was long. It's almost like the NBA playoff,

where the NBA playoff, you forget the entire season because how long the NBA playoff is, you only remember the teams and the players that play in the playoffs in the NBA. That is a matter of fact. LeBron James has been in the playoffs the longest for like 20 straight years. Obviously that helps because of how great he is,

but that's why most people know him as the NBA as a whole still the case. So whenever you talk about the college football world, we haven't seen Ole Miss playing forever. Jackson Dart, you remember the face paint, you remember the moxie, you remember all that, but you don't really talk about him because you haven't really watched their team play. You put these highlights on, it's like, wait a minute, him and Lane Kiffin were slicing and dicing down. They were hanging on SEC defenses, and all these SEC defenses can play good on certain days.

Not saying they do on every day. I'm just saying on certain days they can play well. So maybe Jackson Dart is the forgotten guy in this entire thing. Those highlights, they look a little bit like Bo Nix. Is that the comparisons you're hearing, Shafty? Well, I'm just telling you like last year, nobody was talking about Bo Nix as one and he winds up going as the 12th overall pick and fairs pretty well. And I'm just watching the highlights of this guy right there on the monitor and the return and it looks like that looks a little Bo Nix ish to me.

Okay, well let's move away from the quarterbacks that are going to be drafted and let's move to the kickers and punters that are going to be drafted. Schefter just the other day you reported to everybody, wow, wow, wow, the NFL is back, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, this is everything. You completely missed, you completely missed the actual kickoff to the NFL combine. And it's happening as we speak, the specialist showcase is currently. Did you put up my apology right after? No, we don't do that. Okay. You did apologize, you did try to make it right. The specialist showcase is currently... Did you put up my apology right after? No, we don't do that. You did apologize, you did try to make it right.

The field goal part of the combine, the specialist showcase is currently happening. I believe this is Redhead. This is Buddy from Ireland. This is... Oh, bobbled snap. Does he make the kick? Yes, he does. That should be talked about. So the interesting thing about this, snapper's getting judged, pun punters getting judged for their holding abilities and the punting Kickers getting judged for their field goals and their kickoffs all of these kicks two teams are now you see a separated the either side I believe it's fossil and John Brown special teams coach for the Philadelphia Eagles has one team bones has the other team and

Each made kick is one point. So this would be You missed that is one point. So this would be... Did you miss that? No, I made it. Okay, jeez, tough angle. I was about to say the kippies. Buddy, I've missed those short ones before. Those will stick with you the longest. Especially at the combine. So, these guys are trying to put on a show.

Why didn't you want them to do this? Why didn't you want people to know that this was happening? Lives could change. Just international. When you want to talk about spreading the game internationally, go to the ball-kicking sports countries, brother. And that's how they're gonna get in. Australia obviously came in in a big way. Now Europe's hit, we got a couple Irish guys

that are obviously bombing balls, rugby players, Gaelic football players, soccer football, soccer players from those places. So what? Show some respect. There's a missed opportunity that you are not on the field. I will be 245. Intermingling with these guys as they're doing this.

245. Okay, good. No missed opportunity. Nope. Yeah, this is the beginning. So they're guys as they're doing this. 245. OK, good. No missed opportunity. Yeah, this is the beginning. So they're all kicking, I forget how many kicks. There's six guys on each team. They're all kicking like maybe 10 different spots.

I think I'm going to catch the tail end of it. And then we'll go into the punter portion of the contest. There's a couple kids out there that, like the pick kicker, I believe his name's Sols. Everybody likes him. Like everybody's like, hey, this guy's an NFL guy. Then there's a guy out of temple obviously has two 60 plus yarders, Maddox I think his

name is. He has two 60 plus yarders in games for temple. Remember hit a six point win. Right? Yeah. And I think one of them was in Lincoln financial. So that like, if you hit a 60 plus yarder in any stadium in a game, obviously awesome. I mean, baits hit it in UFO up there in a dome up there, but in Lincoln financial where it's Philly, it's like windy. That is a tough, obviously awesome. I mean, Bates hit it in UFL up there, in a dome up there.

But in Lincoln Financial where it's Philly, it's like windy. That is a tough place to kick. So I think there's a lot of real promise. And then the international guys, there's four international kickers, I think, and maybe four international punters or six international punters. So they're trying to grow it.

They're trying to grow it, Schafter. They're trying their best. Yeah, that's a combine, baby. That's a combine. That's right. And you didn't want anybody to do this. No, no, no no no no screw it up Hey a lot of kicking situations potentially opening up this year any positions or conversations happening that have startled you this week in Indianapolis Like oh, I didn't know that was potentially possible like for instance Stafford being able to go seek a trade for me was well That's like the first real

Public step like they almost announced on Facebook that they were together like because this has been something that's been the first real public step. Like they almost announced on Facebook that they were together. Like, cause this has been something that's been talked about for a while. And then now that it's like, yeah, they can basically, he's available. That felt a little bit alarming to me. Do we know that was coming?

Is there anything else? It's not that he's available. Well, I guess he's not available. He's definitely available. You said he's taking offers. Well, he's again, part of the Rams thinking was to allow him to go out to see what his value is they had an idea Oh, God, he was worth so they can still say no, of course, but but again

Matthew also has to be comfortable with what's going on in Los Angeles and the offer that's there Maybe he's not maybe he now that he spoke to the teams and I know you're offering me this you're from this you're back in the play Yeah, we're back in the play yeah we're back in the play you know hey I it feels like these teams are valuing me more now I guess if you're the Rams you'd say hey listen we've worked together we've got a relationship got a history of course we value we're offering you this okay so that was startling anything else that you think has been a little bit startling that may be lingering around the combine that could potentially come out of nowhere over the next few days. Well, I Honestly believe it starts with Matthew Stafford. I think that gets the ball rolling and everything

I think that that holds up all the quarterback movement So I think the pass rushers are gonna get paid a tremendous amount of money And I think that the success that the Eagles had in the Super Bowl combined with how many pass rushers there are in the cap going up the way it has, you're going to see some big numbers for some of those pass rushers. Is there any movement on Miles Garrett at all? You heard Andrew Berry yesterday, the Brown's general manager, come out and he's been as steadfast as he could be that they're not trading him right now.

So could that change in months? Sure. Again, Khalil Mack was traded September 1st of the off season in which they continued to insist we're not trading him, we're not trading him, we're not trading him. And then they wound up trading him. So teams positions shift, players positions shift,

but where they are today, Miles would like to trade and the Browns say we're not trading them today. Okay, so let's talk Kahlil Mack right there because we talked to Harbaugh. Harbaugh and Hortiz. Harbaugh hit Hortiz in the leg and said, pay that man about Kahlil Mack multiple times.

Oh yeah. Pay that man. Jacked up about it. Pay that man, Kahlil Mack. What do you think happens there? Well, what's interesting is last year, they had decisions to make at both defensive end spots with Kahlil Mack and Joey Bosa.

People were wondering whether they'd have one both neither back. They figured out a way to get both back. And now they're in a situation where Joey Bosa may have to restructure. We'll see what happens with his contract. Khalil Mack is set to become a free agent. Probably gonna be tough to have both those guys back this year. I think if they could get back one of them, probably be pretty good. But we missed on Bosa. We should have followed up. Yeah.

That's on us. We had him right here. By the way, you know what you should have said? Talking about a missed opportunity. Pat should have been like, hold on. Pat should have been like, we got Adam coming out at 110. We got Jim Harbaugh, a guy that he knows. Let's get Adam and Jim, let's have them on together.

And then Adam could weigh in and ask him about George Bosa. No, Jim said no. Jim said he didn't want to. Well, there you go. Your schedule. Shafi, you could have texted some questions too, but you were in bed nice and early last night. I was.

Is that so? That is completely opposite of what I thought. Well, they say that everything, and I mean, I guess for a guy like you it doesn't really matter But they say everything here gets done. You know postal 11 p.m. I Was having a sweet dream at that point Sweet about what? Who am I to disagree? Then what? I was up early.

No, you traveled the world. Seven seas. Seven seas. Everybody's looking for something. That's what the combine's all about. That's what the combine's all about. Everybody's looking for something. Yeah.

And we thought those were happening late night, but instead, Chef, you get the job done early. We can't thank you enough. Did you take time off? We took a long time, too long, probably. You looked like you had a good vacation. Great. It was awesome. Disney World and where before then?

Puerto Rico, great place. Tony? Yeah, re-evaluate. He's not me, Tony. You too. I love Puerto Rico. It was awesome, Donner. It was great. Have you ever been to Puerto Rico? I love everywhere, exceptvaluate. He's not me, Tony. You too. I love Puerto Rico. You should go check. It was awesome down there. It was great. Have you ever been to Puerto Rico? I love everywhere except for Canada.

I don't think I've been to Puerto Rico. First time. First time I've ever gone. It was really nice. It's incredible. Weather was great. Yeah. I mean just... You get in the ocean? Yeah, I looked at it.

Sure. So I felt like mentally I was in there. Sure, sure, sure. I was thinking mental reps of everybody I found in there. And when you're down there You'd attack you don't think about anything. Yeah. Yeah, okay Yeah, you bring your phone with you actually. Yeah, it's all right After I put together an entire show speaking of tickets coming soon

we have a massive show in an arena In Pittsburgh coming up. Okay. Okay. The biggest, this is an aggressive. So to your point, I go to Puerto Rico and I let loose a little bit of care free with the wife, have a good time. I start thinking of things should do this, should do this, should do this, should do this. And then like next morning, it's like, wait a minute. Yeah, we should do this, should do this. And then like next morning it's like, wait a minute.

Yeah, we should do that. Reach out, see, boom, boom, boom, boom. Reach out to people that are very good in this world, like the fine people at the WWE. I knew you were gonna say that. I knew you were gonna say that. It's an arena show. One guy in particular, right? It's an arena show.

It's an arena show. And I get to work with the WWE, so it's like watching what they do in an arena show wise I get to I get the best seat in the house I get to look around and all I do is I watch wrestling obviously so incredibly lucky But then I just watch the people like I just watch the people in their reactions And it is awesome and what you can do with those things and what WWE does for people and how you can make a show It's like I put together a show that I don't think has ever been done before I

Think it is gonna be It's gonna be tough to describe, but just know it's gonna be a big night At in Pittsburgh when is it? Date to be announced ticket sales coming soon, but within the next couple months Got piece together pretty quick. I'll tell you what, it's an expensive one. It's gonna be a good one. It's gonna be a good time. We are very excited to be a part of it.

I kept texting the boys more and more information. Then I would FaceTime the boys like, listen, think about this. Just think to yourself, if you, nevermind. That's where we're gonna leave it. That was a good little break. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a, that's what happens to me though.

Yeah, so I get a chance to think about something else. Like that's kind of my issue, you know? Like hanging out with the wife, we chill. She's so smart too. Like, and by, like she knows me obviously very, very well. I was like, more than anybody. But she'll like mention things, you know? You ever think about this?

Shit that I haven't really thought about. And then it becomes like a banter and it comes back and forth. And then it's just like, and she's like really like, yeah, you should. Like it's cool. It's very, very cool. So I get to think about other stuff.

Family very much. Like hanging out with Mackenzie was the greatest, man. That was so cool. She's, we danced a couple of times. Pink. Pony Club. Pink Pony Club. Pink Pony didn't realize this was a karaoke. Yeah, yeah, I can have it. You know, Pink Pony Club? Not the Pink Pony Club. You

need to listen. Yeah, we call it. It's a banger. You know, my daughter was low is the Wiggles. I understand. There are those. There are those. All right, we will continue on YouTube. TikTok Live, ESPN+, and Disney+. Shout out to Disney for the time down at Disney World. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. OK, right on the screws there.

See that too real. I was extending to get to that point. So there's nothing else in the football world that we need to know as of this moment on a Wednesday? Right now, not to my knowledge. Because we're off for two weeks. Yeah, what about the child they hired in Jacksonville? Oh, Jim Boglanski. Jimmy Coldstone. Yeah, that guy's like 17 years old. He's a wise guy. Looks like he's a very smart guy.

Has to be. If you're, I don't want to say inexperienced, but it looks like he has not been through a lot. Okay. Just with how clean and young he looks. It's like this guy's brain must be gigantic that must be the case he looked what's that what are you he looks like Timothy Chalamet okay don't don't come at Timmy like that he looks like exactly he does look like it's a streamer yes like a streamer. He looks like a streamer or a young actor. I could see a young actor out of him, artist of some sort. But instead, his art is football. 2016, senior assistant to general manager. 18, senior assistant to general manager.

Been there, OK? Been there. 19, director of scouting strategy. During his time with the Rams, he won four NFC West division titles. Appeared in the postseason, he won a Super Bowl. See, I hate that. I hate that. He won a Super Bowl. See, I hate that, I hate that.

He won a Super Bowl. Especially with the Rams. He's a senior assistant to the general manager. He was the athlete of the year at West Okay, so he got less need coffees, you know? Senior assistant to the, but I hate when they put the, went to the postseason six times, won a Super Bowl, especially when it's the Rams.

Teams he was a part of. And everyone talks about McVeigh being like, he's the guy, so like all these guys get, he was McVeigh's OC, well McVeigh's like all these guys get, he was McVeigh's OC. Well, McVeigh's calling all the players. Two time captain of the football team, please. Now that, I'm not taking any pot shots at that, because that's a big deal.

You can leave it. That's Mr. College. And named to the BSN All-American team as a wide receiver, Gladstone. Yeah, that should go. The BSN team, too. Just like McVeigh, by the way. McVeigh, former wide receiver who had a lot of success,

was able to run a team from a coaching standpoint. What do we know about Gladstone? Because I know they're down there in Duvall. Oh boy. He's here, we saw him yesterday. Apparently the security lady gave him a hard time getting in because his credentials were all twisted up and she said listen

untwist that right now i need to see who you are i got checked for you this morning my credential my credential was in my back pocket i was a little loose with it always am sure always am just because i enjoy the interaction with the city you don't need a credential in the city no i do this place like area 51 they lock it down yeah yeah this is i don't expect that at all these cars right here but i do enjoy uh yeah you see this is a racing't expect that at all these cars are but I do enjoy yeah You see this is a race in town brother. Yeah, that's funny car right there by the way What are they building opposite st. Olmos is that apartment buildings? massive massive new hotel It's going to be incredible seasons Andy. Yeah, I don't think it's four seasons. I don't think

Very nice though very nice new hotel coming. But that being said, we host so many things. It's when JW Merrick goes up right before Super Bowl, obviously smashing success. It's filled up every single weekend. I think this is a good place to build a hotel, you know, because there's only more things happening, more events happening. How long is this going to be here for? Signed through 2027?

Is that what it is? I thought it was the next couple of years at least. It's so central, it's so simple, it's so easy. It'll always exist? Well, the combine will always exist. You'd like to think it'll be in India. I don't know. It seems like there's been a little bit of a dance there.

No, I'm just saying the combine. Do you think combine will always exist? I would guess yes. There's got to be a common area where the college prospects can be medically, that's what this was about, them getting medical testing. And it evolved into the drills and the interviews and the football carnival that it's become. Oh, so that's why some of these players are like,

I'm not playing these games. I'll go do the medical, I'll talk to the teams. I'm old school, Shadork would say he's old school. Yeah. I'll talk to the teams, I'll do the medical. I'm not doing a whole dog and pony show. It is great though for us. And the number is going to be huge.

The NFL never sleeps and I think you do though. Every now and then, yeah. That's what you said, sweet dreams. Interesting. And they're made of these. Who am I to disagree? Sounds like you don't care about learning one or two songs at one time. Next time that song comes on, you're going to wish that you... Listen. One of the words. I don't care about learning one or two songs at one time. Next time that song comes on you're going to wish that you listened.

One of the words. One of the words. And did anything happen? Anything happen while you're looking down there in between the legs? John Lynch said that contract negotiations with Brock Purdy are underway. Okay. Congrats Brock. Spent a lot of money.

He's going to pay a lot of money. He deserves it. So he's quarterback of the future. Contract negotiations are underway. What about everything else potentially at San Francisco always have something looming What's looming in San Francisco? I've been brought pretty deep. They're gonna yeah, they're gonna I think they're gonna be a trade Evo. Yep They'll be able to trade him I think he obviously asked for that trade they give him permission to seek a trade I think people have wondered if they'd have to release him I think they're gonna be able to trade him and come here to Indianapolis

Maybe change culture a little bit. Well, probably because nobody can do that. This is a racing city, brother. Their team fucking stinks. No one gives a shit about football here, man. I said it at the start. What are you talking about? I've been more firm in my commitment to that it is right.

I don't think the Colts are ever going to win it until they get all this goofy shit out of here. You've got to get all Like race cars and crap like that These are not goofy, that's funny No, I'm funny car I understand that's a funny car. That's goofy shit. Get it out of here Oh wait, there's a football stadium Wait, they play football here?

Yes, we sell this place out every time That's not true, and it's also funny in the intro I noticed. Put an American flag on the floor. That's interesting No, no, it's a piece of art there Did Mellencamp do that? Is that how that got down there? It's a piece of art. Mellencamp, Indiana artist, obviously. Yeah, it's a racing time, dude. It's a racing time. Get Peyton up there. Peyton's right up there.

Get him up there spinning on that circle instead of the 60 car. Can you show them Peyton, please? Scott from Louisiana on the gym. He takes a left-hand turn. There's a flag on the ground. Is McAfee up there? Should be. No brother. That's a Super Bowl champion team right there. They put them up there so that when fans leave after a loss they're like why can't we get these Payton guys back in the building. Hey can you go to the right there? I think Joseph Adai is over to the

right. Dog. Absolutely dog. Great football player. Great leader. You should be up in the Ring of Honor. You give this place two three good years They'll put you up. All right. I mean we're up there Colts Nation, baby After you know part of Colts Nation don't act like you're in this whole thing Okay Colts Nation is up on the Ring of Honor here because the fans are appreciated fans show up He won a team has the one the AFC South 12 years. Yeah, they may not be showing up much longer Yeah, they will Colts gonna get right especially here at the combine combine. Schefter, we appreciate the help out of you, man. Hey guys,

pleasure. Nice to be in your city. When will you be here till? I'm going home Friday night. Okay, work is done. Work's never done, but I'm going Friday night. Sports center, 730 a.m. from the house. Tell you what, when you leave, we'll take over. Okay, we'll go out, we'll hit the streets. When you leave Friday, we'll clock in. You could take over tonight for me. I won't be on those streets late. Okay, so you go right to your room. Do you have a good, nice dinner?

Do you contribute to our city at all? Absolutely. After 33 years, 34 years. Yeah, but you don't go out, you just stay in the hotel room all day. Room service, you enjoy a nice steakhouse. I took somebody to dinner last night. Who? You took somebody out to dinner. Who took somebody out to dinner? Who was it?

Pat called during dinner. The server knew his wife. Yeah, I smoked weed with Sam. Small world. That's going to happen. So the last night meeting that you have at dinner, I was going to bring it up, you did. You set that up just as an, hey, let's annual thing.

Yeah, there's just people that you see. You don't get to be around a lot of these people all the time. So it's nice to be able to be in the same city as them and sit down with some of them. Yeah, I agree. We have the same situation here because we're in Indy and we don't travel to New York or LA much.

So we get a chance to see people, catch up with people, get yelled at by people. It's awesome. We're so thankful it's here, legitimately. And we're lucky to be here. And we're appreciative that you join our show. Great watch. Shafty. Adam. Shafty. You look super cool. You doing any other TV today? Why don't you dress like this

on TV? Because you always do the suit thing. I would go on TV like this. Somebody might say something like I might hear from somebody, put a jacket on or something you don't look I think you look super cool. I know Shetty. You shouldn't give a fuck what they say Your Adam but I do Yeah, you're Adam Schefter never forget it and we appreciate it I appreciate you guys ladies and gentlemen We'll take a break. We'll be back on the other side I believe we got cassaria from the Houston Texans who will be joining us in a matter of moments. And then also the specialist showcase that is kicking off the NFL combine, even though Schefter hates that it's happening.

It's messed up. No, no. It's taking place. Oh yeah, Chef, do you have any questions for Casario? I got a lot of questions for Nick. Go on. Write them down. Time.

Yeah, now is the time. Same. You want some questions? Yeah. Where are they at with Stefan Diggs? Okay. Where's Tank Dillon in his recovery? Okay. What do they do at Wide Receiver to replace some of those guys?

Okay. Boom. We'll ask him about something. You don't want to ask him about the elimination chamber coming up on Saturday? He's going to want to talk about it. Elimination chamber on Saturday? Absolutely. He is going to want to talk about it.

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guests as we await our next guest from the Houston Texans. Now, we covered all the big things throughout the show that have kind of come from the press conference and stuff like that. We talked about the Colts in the Open Quarterback Competition. We talked about the Bengals paying their wide receivers. Oh, actually, one thing we didn't talk about, the Chiefs and their future gold jacket tight end Travis Kelsey. You know, Brevich said there was still the fire. Travis Kelsey still had the fire.

They expect him back. And then Andy Reed said, you know, we're going to give Travis some space. We're going to give him some time to relax and make his decision. So I guess there is the question mark out there about what Travis is going to do with his future. But other than that, we have pretty much covered everything that has kind of come out of the GM and Coach Press Conference so far. What did it sound like?

It sounded like they were alluding to him coming back, right? That's what it sounded like. Beach, yeah, for sure. Beach sounded like that for sure. Andy Reid was like, hey, bud, you got to do what you got to do and then talk to me, right? That's kind of what it was?

Yeah, it seemed like, I mean, I don't know, just me personally, I didn't think there was ever a chance he was going to retire. I mean, I guess maybe. But it seemed like this was kind of something that was created because people were cherry picking the play from the Super Bowl with him like not, you know, peeling back and blocking. I think when my homes took off or something and it was like,

Hey, this guy doesn't, he just, he doesn't have it anymore. You know, he's kind of passed his prime. I had 14 touchdowns. Yeah, exactly. It just, it seemed like, like if he would have retired to me, that would have been like out of nowhere. Yeah. And I think during Superbowl media night, where do you see yourself in five years,

three years? He said, hopefully still playing. Yeah, I know that guy is I'd love he's football guy. He is. And that was a devastating loss. I think it would be hard to make any decision about anything after that loss. After the season, I had the very fortunate lucky opportunity to ride the coat wings of the team that won the Super Bowl built Lucas oil stadium fortunate lucky opportunity to ride the coat wings of the team

that won the Super Bowl, built Lucas Oro Stadium here in Indianapolis on the tail end and go to another Super Bowl with them against the New Orleans Saints and Drew Brees. And that loss after the season, that was, I walked into a locker room. It was the most devastated place I've ever walked. Like it was, we're talking about just no, it was just soulless, like just blank stares out of everybody just like drenched over. You're walking through another team's confetti, you know how lucky and how hard it was to get here, and everybody just thinks to themselves, we're never gonna make it back.

So whenever that situation takes place, especially if you're trying to do history and you've won back to back world champions, well you've already won back to back, it's like yeah, well that's what they expect to do. So whenever that just gets taken away from you and you get absolutely pounded, just absolutely pounded. I assume mentally it's not the right time

to make any decision, but the fact that it's being talked about means that somebody thinks that it's possible. And for me, I don't think it's, to everybody, everybody's points like at radio or yeah, I think radio, no, media day I guess. Yes. He said no, he's gonna be back. But then you've won a bunch of Super Bulls, you've made a bunch of money. You've represented our sport very, very well publicly. You know, nobody in football want to give him that credit. A lot of super football people are like, I don't care. He's date Taylor Swift. It's like, how about how he's put on for the football world

while dating the biggest star on earth? And then how about them being a genuine, like, you know, like everything we know. He's a football guy from Ohio representing and doing, I am a massive Travis Kalisie fan. I think on the football field he's unguardable as well. Now granted he can be guarded if you put three people on him, but then he opens up for everybody else. And then in the big moments, whenever you need something, he's gonna show up. It's like that guy's certified already at this point.

So maybe that creeps in. If you're having an off season with the biggest star on earth and you're experiencing like what billionaires experience, because once again, that is his significant other. That is a billionaire for real. And people don't like give credit to people. It's like like she is

she might be the one like she is so impressive so maybe there is a chance that after you lose and you get devastated you're like i don't want to sign back up to ever feel like that again especially after everything i've accomplished for the offseason but i don't see it that way just like i don't see with Aaron you know like i just don't believe that these football guys don't want to play football he's got you know he's got a part in a movie coming out and you know, I'm like another tight-end He actually could probably have a lucrative acting career. So what do you think about that? He's there's no reason for that shot. That's the news You took a shot of Rob Gronkowski there because his agent whenever Rob's agent whenever he retired

Came out and said that he's gonna pursue a lucrative acting career kind of cart before the horse and I don't think Gronk wants to be acting he wants to be himself and that has done certainly great things for the Gronkowski family and himself. But yeah it came out during the

break that he's potentially going to go back to the playing field back to the gridiron he's going to play for the Denver Broncos loves Bo Nicks loves Sean Payton. Hey maybe Rob Gronkowski leaves the desk at Fox leaves all the commercial money, leaves all the living

and having a good time out the door and comes back with the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton. I would believe that he'd be great. Looks like he's still in the shape that he was in whenever he was playing. Rob Gronkowski, whenever he was playing football, just dominant. Yeah.

If he was able to play longer, like in the playoffs, he showed up every time. That's why the Travis Kelcey, Rob Gronkowski, playoff records are the ones that should be talked about the most. But Rob Gronkowski is a pivotal part of so much in the history of the NFL. If he was to come back and play ball, how would you feel as a Patriots fan? Because obviously you watch him with the Bucks, go win a Super Bowl with Tom. And then if he gets called in as a Super Bowl assassin for the Denver Broncos, how would you feel about it?

I'd feel pretty good. Because I've already experienced the Bucks. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like whatever, especially because it wouldn't be as tough because it's not as if he's going to play with Brady. But yeah, his last game, what, he had five catches, two touchdowns, 70 yards in the Super Bowl.

And that was against the Chiefs. So I don't see any reason why he wouldn't go back and absolutely dominate. Well, there is a reason. Uh-oh. Yeah. Jordan Schultz reported that he asked Rob Gronkowski. What the hell, guys?

Schultz got the news. I didn't see this follow-up. I asked Rob Gronkowski about a so-called NFL comeback. Schultz is reporting. And Gronk said, crazy, bro. They must know something about me that I don't. I wish I still had those powers because that would be cool if I did.

But I was just in Australia for a few days. Now it's time to relax a little. No football. Yeah, I saw one of the senior insiders as well. I can't remember which one it was that said that should not happen. But maybe if we keep floating it out there, we might see Gronk back out there.

Yeah. Chance. Gronk play football. Gronk and Sean Payton, former teammates at Fox. Yeah, everybody at Fox loves Sean Payton. Literally, everybody said they love Sean Payton over there. Feels like they're trending in the right direction. Bo Nicks is a guy.

Future of the NFL is very bright, like legitimately. The young stars in the NFL are very good, which leads to the concern that there is a lot of buzz around this. He said third, fourth, fifth rounders. Yeah. Well, if their third, fourth, fifth rounders are so good, why aren't the second round? I never understood. You know, like whenever they describe that, they're like late in the thing. It's good. It's a good crop. So it's like, so why wouldn't they be earlier?

I thought he was going to say the, like, because everyone is talking about the D line and the running back super deep in those two tight ends. Yes, as well. But no, he went to the third or fifth round, which you know. Yeah, them saying, or him saying the 10th pick isn't as different from the 35th. We've had years where that's happened, though. I think it was like two years ago where they said, you know, first round grades on 10 guys or whatever.

But I think the difference is how good all the young players are playing. Oh, yeah. Those young guys take up roster spots, and they're not that expensive. So draft picks normally get opportunity or supplement whenever a vet is either gone, absent or looking to get paid and go somewhere else we can't handle it. And it's salary. So the young guys get opportunity. That's how you get in there, you know? So that's

why the combine, the draft is so special, but there's a lot of young dudes taking over a big time roles in the NFL. It's great for the game. It's great for the league. I don't know how it is for this particular draft class, but legitimately, I think it's good around the league. Especially a quarterback. And the thing that's been going around a lot is, and Chef D said it too, he expects the Browns to take a quarterback at number two,

specifically because that quarterback is going to be, most likely, very talented, but also very cheap because of their situation, cap situation, with Deshaun Watson. They need to get a cheap quarterback who is going to play obviously Deshawn's not complaining because of the Achilles and you know other reasons but they know they're gonna bring in a quarterback and if you got to pay Deshawn there's nothing better than getting a great first-round quarterback potentially and then also

not have to pay him a ton for a little bit at least I'm very fascinated by this draft class because like you know with college game day with the simulcast we have followed this yeah these guys right and this is like herb street so herb street obviously does college ball for so long he makes a transition to the nfl and i think he you know because the way herbie is he always thinks he's gonna like super like humble i'm gonna stink i'm not supposed to be like herbie fucking get it together Kirk Herbstree bro Over prepares for every Over preparing is good

I think it is good, but there comes a point where it's like You're Kirk Herbstree bro You know everything about everything That's legit, he was worried when he came into the NFL That he wouldn't know enough about the NFL game Because he hadn't spent enough time in the NFL He thought the NFL people would like kind of scoff at him too Because he was an NFL guy.

Then he realized, oh, I know all these guys. I literally know all of these guys from them, how they were at their schools. Now it's gonna be like transfers, why they transfer, how much money they got paid. Like all the information that we're gonna have on these guys coming to the combine now and going forward, let alone guys going back into school.

There are maybe these top end guys, second round guys, first round guys, early third round guys going back to school because of what the NIL is. I mean, it is an interesting transition phase, I think, for this kind of drafting part of the calendar going forward. Well, and it's interesting too, like Joe Hortiz kind of mentioned this.

Like we talked about the whole culture situation. How many young guys have then, you know, started somewhere and then gone somewhere else and been much better. Like you wonder the situations, how bad some of them can be and how like a player can go and then completely stink and we're all out on them. And then four years later end up at a place that he's meant for and then become an unbelievable player. Aaron Rodgers. What's he, where does he end up at?

A TP in Cuba. You think so? Puerto Rico. There's no way he's retired. I just don't. There's no way. I don't see why. You think he's retiring.

I don't know if he's retiring. You've read all the books. If there's not a great situation, and the Jets going into it was a great situation, even though it's the New York Jets. But if there isn't, Pittsburgh would make a lot of sense. But if Stafford's the guy everyone wants, then where is he going to end up if he's the number two guy?

I think it hinges on Minnesota. If they really want to just move forward with JJ, then I think Aaron would make a ton of sense in Minnesota. But if Minnesota doesn't want Aaron, and they want to move forward with JJ at this point, then like, is he going to go to, I assume Aaron wants to go to a place where he can win and obviously go out on a high note and how many of those teams exist. A tie, you know, there's better than anybody on this particular show.

And I think maybe in society, Aaron loves the Packers whenever, whenever during the Packers season, during the seasons, even when he's been with the Jets or whatever, he'll ask you questions about what's going on with the Packers. Is he gonna do the whole Brett Favre potential Jets into the Vikings? Time is a pleasure.

And if he was to go to them, with Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson. Yeah, that one would hurt more. I mean, the Favre one, because it happened so long ago, you know and and they they almost went to a Super Bowl far You know like that was really I mean he kind of did the same thing He went to the Jets and it wasn't quite as disastrous as it has been with Aaron but then when he went to the Vikings like having to see having to play him twice a year and And that Viking seems unbelievable like that with Rogers that would really that would suck to play him twice a year and that Viking seems unbelievable. Like that with Rogers, that would really, that would suck to see him.

But I think and, you know, I have talked to Shefty about this on his podcast. Like we still don't know because the Stafford thing, it could be like the Lamar situation where he requested the trade and then it was all it was basically like, hey, well, maybe these other teams are just letting Uh other teams do the legwork for the ravens to see what his you know market value is going to be like It kind of just took that whole if staffer does leave the rams I think it's a no-brainer that aaron rogers is going to go to the rams. Yeah, it's because malibu La especially with everything that's happened. We brought up with the chargers

But like la fires like his friends his he got his Achilles. I mean like yeah, he's back home. That's like his community right in LA Yeah, and a guy like McVeigh and him I think would get along Very well McVeigh younger than him So McVeigh probably fan of air like they not that a fan isn't like I'm saying the respect that McVeigh probably has For Aaron and once again, we've heard from our sources, there's a lot of respect and love the other way in this entire thing. Because how could you not with McVeigh? And they do get, and they have a chance to win. Like they were a, yes.

Yeah, what Schefter was saying is he's going to get paid. He wants to. 55 mils, like the, you know, where it starts. That's a lot of money. Yeah. He said about Minnesota though, like if there's any place where it's, hey, the quarterback, of course, is important, but not as big of a deal, it's Minnesota, because KOC.

So like, with JJ, I could just see them riding with JJ McCarthy, like, KOC is going to figure that out. And then where does he end up anyways? They used the first round on him, so they're going to want to see. Yeah, exactly. Got to find out now. OK, let's pivot away from the quarterback talk,

and let's go to a general manager talk. Ladies and gentlemen, six time Super Bowl champion, general manager for the Houston Texans, Nick Casario. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Hell yeah. How we doing?

How we doing? Lads, lads, lads, lads. You got those on, clods on? Those are so comfy. Oh, yeah. Right here, right here. What do we got? This one right here. Wow, purple. I like that. You're accessorizing on those are so comfy. Oh, yeah, right here. Right here. This one right here.

Wow, purple. I like that. Yeah, you're accessorizing too. I've got like 10 pairs of clouds. You love them, huh? I love them, dude. They came through the world during COVID, it felt like. Right, didn't we get introduced to the on clouds?

That's when they got super popular. Yeah, and he's got, I mean, he's wearing them. I had like the basic ones when they first came out. Now I got like, I mean, different shapes, sizes, whatever they are. You should lower that thing just a little bit. There you go. No. Yeah, right there.

Perfect. All right. It was on your nose. So I just put it in my mouth. My nose is very big, so it doesn't take much. So I just, you said it on me, but I have a big nose as well. But I was looking over at that thing, and I'm like, that mic is right at that nose.

And I did look at the nose for a second and I was like Good no guys go Okay, Poisono, let's talk about it Indianapolis, what do you utilize this time for most you think that are you embracing all of it? Is it the medical is it the meeting is it the gathering? Like what is the big thing you think in the importance of scouting combat in Indianapolis to you number one can I include this show or is that not part of it. After that no the the big thing is probably the interviews so it's you know

it's only 15 minutes but I think the big thing is each player has a story you know trying to get an understanding of their story their background how they've got to this point some kids have honestly dealt with a lot, and the fact that they're even sitting in that chair, you can't have nothing but respect and appreciation for that. And it's really the first touch point for the coaching staff. So this is D'Amico's opportunity to really meet some

of these players for the first time. We've accumulated a massive amount of information August, September, October. Our scouts have been in the schools. We have a database full of information from the school about what we think the player is. We've talked to someone at the senior bowl in some of the All-Star games as well.

So now we're starting to piece it together, just trying to create a profile of the player and just so we can make a good decision when it comes draft time. Okay, so obviously immense success up in New England. And I think every day that rolls by, the more credit you're getting. I don't know if you've heard your name,

your ears have been burning. I know you got a big sniffer, but your ears, they should be a hefty size as well, because there's a lot of people talking and singing your praises about what you did up in New England. I think we're getting more glimpses of what you did up in New England, more hands-on. You go to Houston, you have a vision

of what your team's gonna be, I assume. You start creating that in New England, what your vision of your team is gonna be, and how close are you to what you had envisioned as your football team? Yeah, look, I think there's a lot of people in New England that deserve a lot of credit for the success that we had I mean my job is something I've said this is just was to support coach Belichick and just kind of behind the scenes Yeah, but we talked a lot to Belichick and Lombard. Everybody's been paying their respects

As far as as far as our program again when you take over a new program You can't take another program and just drop it in so you kind of have to all right where are you what do you want to do what do you want to emphasize what's important we obviously went through some coaching changes we had to make some modifications and I think when we heard D'Amico I think the big thing too systematically like defensively like that system this system is different than how I was trained so how you evaluate players what's important what you prioritize so you have to maintain an open mind as your're piecing that team together.

But I think the traits and characteristics and profile of the player, of what you want in the person when they walk in the building, that's remained consistent. So you have to have a certain level of discipline. You have to be committed to that. If you prioritize and say this is important, their competitiveness, are they a good teammate? Do they put the team first?

Do they have mental and physical toughness? If you say those things are important, who are the players that have those qualities? Like that's our job and responsibility and you have to stay true to that. If you start to veer off, well

these are important but you know what this guy ran 4-1 and he's not a good kid. All right, well are you really staying true to what you believe in? So I think philosophically D'Amico and I aren't aligned in that respect.

There's a lot of whispers in the hallways and restaurants about maybe a potential culture situation around the NFL. And culture is always this buzzword that's talked about, but culture is basically how people judge your program, I think personally, or how those within judge the program. And it's like the tough teams and like the teams that stick together, the-working teams the bought-in teams they seemingly

win people are saying now finding the guys to buy in because of the world that we live in is much harder than it had been maybe 10 15 20 years ago do you agree with that finding guys that love ball maybe finding guys that buy in fit in to being role as opposed to being superstar I would say this Pat they're out there so dogs they're out there. Dogs. They're out there. So you have to be able to identify those. And ultimately, culture, I know that word get used a lot. Ultimately, the players are responsible for that.

It's about the players. You're responsible for bringing the player in, though. Well, it fits together. And the players are very aware and perceptive. If you say, look, these are the things that are important, and then a guy walks in the building, and they're going to look, and you can go, wait a minute. What are you talking about?

I mean, players don't get enough credit for their overall awareness and level of understanding. They're very astute. So you can't bullshit them. So you've got to be consistent. You've got to stay true to what you believe in. And your actions have to back your words. And I think D'Amico and I really strongly believe in that.

Your quarterback was a guy that you told us, I think last year, that greatest rookie season of all time. Then Jadon comes in, it's like, I don't know what the hell's going on with these young quarterbacks, but it'd be great to get one. You want to trade? Anyways.

Straight up. Straight up. Ours is younger. Ours is... We love our guys. He's big. He drives the ball real far. Nonetheless, I don't even know if I have the power to trade him. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe I'm not I'm such a horrible competition

But we talked about CJ's trout you said the same way he talked in front of a small group He talked in front of the entire building He is who he is and he is a guy that we love and since day one He's been bought in now. He's gonna have a different offensive coordinator, right? We got a whole new offensive coordinator He went through a little bit of struggles this year. Had a lot of injuries, obviously, happening around him. But nonetheless, much different than year one.

What did you learn about CJ Stroud this last year? And what is your job now for and with CJ Stroud? Yeah, that he's as motivated as ever. And I think any player, sometimes you have to go through some trials and tribulations, and you learn a lot about yourself, and you learn a lot about the program and about the team. So I think CJ is going to have a really good off season.

He's going to be committed to making himself a better football player, which is that's where the focus should be. We'll see kind of where we end up offensively. Nick's got a very background, trained kind of in New England system. He's been around Coach McVeigh here for a couple of years. So I would say offensive football continues to evolve. And at some point, you're going to kind of need everything.

Offensive is kind of a hybrid of a lot of different things. You kinda have a foundation, what works, what doesn't work. All right, a little bit more of this, a little bit less of that. And then figure out a best way to accentuate the strengths of the players and put them in a position where they can go out there and execute. Yeah, and CJ Stroud is so,

I can't wait to watch next year. And you're right, the trials and tribulations can drive out and drive people to be even better than maybe further or first expected. Adam Schefter said he wants to know about Stefan Diggs. What's going on with Stefan Diggs? Tell him to ask you. Schefter, he doesn't talk to me so.

No, no that's what he said. That's what he said actually. He said I got a lot of questions for the Houston Texans is what he said. But he told me to ask you. Oh okay. He said ask him about the Stefan Diggs. What He said, ask him about the Stephon Diggs. What's going on with him? He and Stephon Diggs are the Texans and Stephon Diggs.

Yeah. No, we'll continue to talk to Steph. I mean, Steph did a great job. You know, glad he was on our team last year. He helped us win some games. Unfortunately, he got injured. So we'll kind of work through the process with him. But we're open door policy.

So we don't rule anything out. So we'll kind of keep an open mind. And we'll try to figure out what makes the most sense and if there's a fit so so many injuries last year yeah so many injuries and you can't make excuses I'm not we're not gonna make excuses but with that being said we will insert a statement of fact a lot of injuries what did you learn about your culture yeah you got to navigate through it and you got to be in the end this league is about mental toughness so you got to be able to fight through things.

And whoever is available, you got to go out there and play. Nobody's going to feel sorry for you if you don't have your full complement of players. So you find a way. This is a find-a-way league. And that's the mindset that we want to permeate the building. And our players understand that. And that's what the expectation is.

We're never going to make excuses. D'Amico's not going to make excuses. We don't want the players to make excuses. Things happen. We've got to deal with it. And ultimately, we've got to come up with solutions. We've got to fix problems. We're talking to Nick Casario, general manager

of the Houston Texans. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Nick. We want to talk about hockey? Talk about the... No, no. We don't want to talk about that right now. Do you want to?

If we're talking about anything not football, it's going to be the elimination chamber. But what are you, one of my favorite parts of it is... Coming up, Road to WrestleMania next year. It's going to be dire chamber, but what do you, uh, my favorite, uh, it's going to be, are you in it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Nick. Whoa, man. Yeah, hold on. You do look like you're in shape a little bit now. Yeah, that's the tan. I just got back from Florida. Where are you in Puerto Rico, though? Who else lives in Puerto Rico?

OK, whatever. I live in Greatsville. Yeah, a couple of wrestlers, too. One of my favorite parts of last season from you was when that whole Aziz thing went on. You kind of went, you did a press conference, and you basically stood on business for your team and kind of the entire situation. He got three games suspended. Obviously that was his first

suspension for everything. How do you feel like those situations have been handled? Do you think there will be kind of a you know another look at all those situations because of how drastic some of these suspensions were? Yeah look I think we respect the league and the processes they have in place. I think our responsibility is like our focus is on our players. And we just try to do the right thing and we're going to support our players and get their have their backs. And again, I don't think I would necessarily change anything that was expressed.

Everybody has varying opinions about that. So we're respectful of our opponents. We're respectful. We don't want to see anybody injured. You know, I'd say in Aziz's situation, you know, we just felt like, you know, just given everything that took place, you know, that's how we felt. So, I mean, ultimately we're going to support our players. Now, if they're wrong, ultimately, like, we'll be accountable and, you know, we want to do the right thing. So have a lot of respect for Aziz, have a lot of respect for, you know, Jacksonville Jaguars, have a lot of respect for Aziz, have a lot of respect for Jacksonville Jaguars,

have a lot of respect for Trevor Lawrence. And I think the league ultimately just wants to do what's right by everybody involved. So whatever the rules and regulations are, we'll certainly abide by them. And I think the big thing is just everybody wants to have clarity, just have an understanding, so that you can coach and teach it the right way.

But I mean, I think having your players back and supporting them, I mean, that's part of our job and responsibility we're focused on the Houston Texans and just trying to do what we think is best for our players and for our club. Hey like I don't know if you heard AJ everybody that was on our show immediately after you doing that former players we're like shout out to the GM like calling a press conference basically to be like hey we're with this guy. We had actually already scheduled it. No, no, no.

It felt like you called it. I'll call Mark and vouch for that. Yeah, it felt like you called it and like came out. Well, if you scheduled it, it was like perfect timing for the entire day. And your messaging was phenomenal. And your team did change after his. And I think you knew how important he

was to the team as well. So you going out and getting your players back, I think, was well received by everybody that we know. So shout out to you. Anthony DiGiulio has a question for Nicholas Casario. Yes, I do. Nice. Perfect.

Obviously, Bobby Slowick's out. Nick Haley is in. Does that change? Does the new offense coordinator change anything about the draft process? No, it's a good question. It's probably going to be case by case. So I think having an understanding,

Nick, and looking at our team, who are the players that we have coming back, what are some of the things that you prioritize are important? When we're evaluating the players here, hey, what is important? What are some of the traits and characteristics? Same thing in free agency. So whenever we're going to square peg in a round hole,

we're going to figure out what's the role, what's the vision. And then when a player walks in the building, we're all going to be aligned from that perspective. So kind of go through that process here a little bit. They're evaluating our team. He's evaluating our team. He's evaluating some players in free agency. We've given them some players in draft to evaluate.

So we want to kind of see, like, how does it match up? What do our scouts think? What do the coaches think? All right, we're not going to necessarily agree on everything. But if there's a large discrepancy, all right, we'll pivot and go to something else. We're not beholden to one particular player. So just try to find guys that fit.

And then when they walk in the building, like you're committed to the vision that you have for that player. Tight end and what, deep this year? Tight end and what? Tight end, detackle, running back is what they're saying. OK, so.

Oh, is that like for us? That's what we're supposed to be doing? That's what you guys said. So and then Schefter said something, which once again. We told Bean wide receiver last year, and then he went and drafted wide receiver. So I think it's whatever we tell you to do. All right, so give me that again, tight end.

What else you got? D-tackle, running back. OK, so if we pick one of those three, then you guys are good. Do you want to make the phone call to the player? Can we make that happen? Oh my god. Can I do it from him, or I got to be in the war room? We'll talk to Homer about that.

OK, yeah, we'll set it up. We'll set it up. That'd be great. No, what I was asking is, Schefter, who you dunked on earlier, awesome. Yeah, that was sweet. Absolutely awesome. That is so good. Catch him in the chamber.

I did love that. Yeah, man. Why not? Yeah, there's a chance. He said that the people he's been talking to said this is a third, fourth, fifth round, very deep. What does that mean? If it's that good in that round, why aren't they in the second?

What is your take on this particular draft class as here's what I would say There's good football players pretty much littered throughout So wherever they get drafted they get drafted like honestly, we don't care where they get drafted So some of our best players, I mean like say Henry Toa Toa was a fifth-round pick I mean as he wasn't drafted we took Nico Collins in the third round So however you add players to your team, you can find good football players. How do you feel about this draft class? No, there's a lot of good football players. I think there's some, I mean, I think Hunter and Carter,

you know, arguably two of the best players in the draft. So, I mean, we're not going to see those guys at 25. So we don't have to worry about that. Abdul Carter's going to be, but you're not trading, huh? We've seen you make some plays. Yeah, a couple. We only have six picks right now. So we're not going to pull a Mike Ditka

and like give up our whole draft for Ricky, I don't think, at this point. I wish that would have worked. I wish that would have been so cool if that would have worked. But I would say you know there's decent depth in this draft I mean I think you can find players in just about every round so that's what we're gonna try to do. Ty has last question for you. When that kind of narrative is out there that there's all there might there might only be ten guys with first round grades how often does it happen though because we talked before the show started today. There will be three or four guys whose draft stock

goes through the roof based on what happens this weekend. In your experience, how often does that happen? Because you obviously talked about the scouts and how much work you guys do. But is there a chance that someone will do something out here that you're like, oh, we weren't prepared? This guy literally came out of nowhere. You've got to be careful.

I mean, you're not going to see that big of a jump. I think what you saw the player do on the field, it shouldn't be that drastically different. Or if a guy has a bad day, I mean, maybe he had a bad day for whatever reason. So you got to be careful about putting too much stock in one particular thing here. And I'd say relative to first round grades,

it's kind of an ambiguous term because every team probably has a different process that they use So we're kind of a role specifically assigned the grade. Here's what we think the player will be so and then okay You draft them at a certain point that you feel comfortable So just have to be careful about putting too much extra stock about you know, what the guy does out here So honestly some of the drills are ridiculous like talk about what the guy does out here. So honestly, some of the drills are ridiculous. Can't you change these drills? You, can't you change?

No, I have no influence. So I'll try to stay out of it. How come everybody says they have no influence? Yeah. What's that all about? General manager. Try to stay out of it. This is your thing.

This is literally a general manager's thing. How about the tush push? You going to eliminate that or what? No, I could ask about this a little bit already. I don't think you can penalize a team for good execution So I have some stats. I have some stats on it I mean what Nick and you know coach Stoutland have done and their quarterback squats a thousand pounds. So like he's gonna generate He's gonna generate movement. So okay, so the stats on the tush push and maybe you guys should do a little bit more

Okay, here it is Eagles 87 percent. They've obviously done the most amount of Everybody it's become their thing. The brotherly shove is also another name. 87%, 108 of 124. The Bills with Josh Allen, it's 6 foot 6 or whatever he is. And I would say, when you watch those two teams, they kind of do it a little bit differently. Push.

Josh has a good sense. I mean, you go back, look at Brady. Brady wasn't a traditional kind of push-push person. But he converted, I think, every court. Go back and look at the stats on that one. I think he converted a multiple. I mean, I don't know what the percentage was. It might have been that much.

But he converted a lot of quarterback sneaks. And then even, I think it was a divisional round. He reached the ball over the goal line. And Lewis hammered him in the hole, and he was perpendicular to the ground. So I don't think you can penalize a team for a good execution in something they do well And then you know the way Josh does is a little bit different than the way Philly does

I mean look you got to get a yard. Can you get a yard? How can you get a how do you feel about the aggression of? Deciding what you do some teams punters might as well. You know like legit unless it's fourth and 27 Like the Detroit Lions commanders down the street commanders ago I mean there's so many teams that are just seen a little bit more of an aggressive mindset on fourth down Like the Detroit Lions. Commanders down the stretch. Commanders are gone. I mean there's so many teams that are just like. You've seen a little bit more of an aggressive mindset on fourth down so you have to prepare for that on defensive side of the ball when you're on defense. You used to have a headset on though so we know that you're dialed in on strategy.

Oh yeah. How do you feel about that type of shit? What, me wearing a headset? No, no, no. People being real aggressive. I think it's great. So you've got to do what's best for your team. You've got to understand your team and understand the dynamics.

And game management, how you manage the game, ultimately games are won and lost in those critical situations. So how you handle third and eight puts you in a position. Or what are you going to do on fourth down? So there's a lot of calculus that goes into a lot of the decisions that are made. I know my calculus. It says you plus me equals us.

Told my daughter that today. It's a good combination. You know that song? Vaguely, yes. My kids are a little bit old. My girls are a little bit older, so we've graduated. Have you been able to pay attention to where in the road to WrestleMania?

He brought it up early. Have you been able to pay attention? Not as much as I probably should have. You know, I didn't want to even know anything. Did you hear the Rock proposition? So LA Knight and The Miz, aren't they the same person? They're like, I mean, mish. I saw that.

Yeah. We talked to you. Saw that. I made that call. The Miz is watching right now. One is a little more jacked. Cleema guy. So he's probably going to be like, that jackass.

What's he talking about? Yeah, The Miz is watching this. He's texted me already 30 minutes ago. So he definitely just heard that. The Miz is going to be so, yeah, maybe if he does it for 20 years. He's gonna be so mad. By the way, Tom Brady, 90%. 90%?

On the SNCCS. Yeah. Well, you do. Maybe a show host. I'd love to work with you guys. We would love to have you. You'd be sweet. Other than that, we know you gotta get to work.

We appreciate you stopping by. I appreciate you guys. It's always great seeing you. And sorry, the year goes how it goes. Obviously, that's football. That's life. Excited to see what your building does on the other side of that.

Appreciate you having us on. Really enjoy it. You got a mouse in your pocket? No mouse. You said us. You talk about you, the Texans. You guys. Yeah, Houston, Texas.

Houston, Texas. Another AFC South championship, though. We'll see. Got a lot of work to do. We got a bunch of Paisans now in the AFC South on defense. Anarumo, Campanelli, Paisanos. Anarumo came to town. I forgot about it.

It's going to be tough to find a meal. Lou's a good coach. Lou's a really good coach. A lot of good coaches in the AFC South. I'm pretty excited he's on our team. He's a good coach. Lou's a really good coach. Yeah, every once in a while you go, oh, geez, Olive Garden.

Vaseline. That's not real Italian. Thank you, geez, Olive Garden. Vaseline. Vaseline. That's not real Italian. Thank you, Nick. Olive Garden. Thank you. Real Italian. Bugio di Peppa, actually there was one in Cleveland. We went when I was younger, so.

Very good. That sort of counts. I went when I was younger, yeah, I did the whole song and dance. And a bread and the olive oil. Bugio. Unbelievable. I want to let you know, we are the most Italian show.

It shows, it definitely shows. We got a lot of Italians around here. And we're from Pittsburgh, so that's how it goes. So where are you from originally? Cleveland, Northeast Ohio. Oh, that's where you brought them is? Yeah, exactly. Do you follow the Browns much?

I don't think it's a lot of fun. You going to try to get Miles Garrett down? We've got six pitchers. We've already fleeced them one time. We can't afford them. Yeah, of course. Yeah, all right. You're the man. Have a great week here in Indy. We appreciate you coming. Thank you for stopping by. We can't afford them. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you're the man.

Have a great week here in Indy. We appreciate you coming. Thank you for stopping by. You're the absolute man. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Thank you, dude. Appreciate you.

Great accessorizing, literally. That is the most Italian GM. That's the most Italian GM you can see. Bye, ma. Shoes matching the shirt coming through. Yeah. Got the, yeah. Hey, get out, T.

Get out, T. Get out, T. All right, boys, I got to go host a special showcase down on the field. Hey, thank you, boys. See you, Texans. Maybe let us win the AFC South. Yeah. It's been 12 years.

All right. They could try, and they still want to get it done. Avis Roper here, former PR of the Colts, legend. Works ever. Was with the Giants, who was with the Colts. Now I'm gonna hire the right Aaron. I forget where he is now, but he's somewhere big. When he was here, we were winning. There you go.

Maybe bring Avis Roper, I don't know if we can afford him, I assume we can't. With that being said, I'm heading down to the field on NFL Network and NFL Plus. The specialist showcase will take place. I will be miked up. I don't know all these guys' names. That's okay. Hair color.

They'll give you a sheet. Iowa's got a long snapper down there. So is West Virginia. West Virginia's long snapper's like, I think he's projected to be... He's not hard edge. That's a good point. He would have been. He would have been.

Spring practice started at West Virginia yesterday. Heard a lot of stories. Hard edge. We're getting it. We're going to find it. If you ain't got it, you're going to get it. And that's the road I think I couldn't even fathom just getting dropped into a rich Rodriguez

Spring if you had been in the Neil Brown cancer Neil Brown. Thank you for representing in such a professional manner as the head coach. I Think a lot boys are learning about a little bit of hey New era we're fast tough team now okay that is uh that is what we are gonna do and if you're not fast and tough I think you are gonna not enjoy your time on these things but just know West Virginia's back give me three years. Maybe this year. Maybe. Legitimately. Anything can happen on Transfer Portal. Yeah. It's been nice to be an assistant of that particular program.

Sure. And with that being said, I'm going to head down there. Boys, great work. Talk to the table. Way to go. Yeah, you too. Good to be back. Good to be back.

One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys. Tom Diggs, great work, buddy. Great to be back. You too. You too. Let's go to the truck. Boys in the background.

What a great job. Good work. Good work. Good work, Chuck. Work, Chuck. Great to see you guys. Fox, you'll only put him cell phone. Yeah, that's kind of. There you go, boys. There it is. Great to see you guys. Foxy, I'm going to put him on his cell phone. Yeah, that's kind of.

There you go, boys. There it is. There you go, boys. Good to see you guys. Foxy kind of has all the control, literally. Yeah. You'll see who I want you to see. It's good to be back, boys.

It is great to be back. Good to be back. Tomorrow we'll be back even more. All right, I'm going to head down there, do this thing. I can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.

We're interesting together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team! I'm gonna head down there. Yep. All right. Goodbye!