The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1300 - Franchise Tag Deadline Day, Kirk Herbstreit, Shams Charania, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys look ahead to today’s franchise tag deadline and react to what players are signing deals, which players are getting released, and Pat breaks the news that Saquon Barkley is officially signing a two year extension with the Eagles with a whole bunch of guaranteed money up front. Joining the progrum to chat about the biggest NFL offseason stories, his thoughts on the combine as a whole, and the stadium series game that he went to between the Blue Jackets and the Red Wings, is the voice of College Football and Thursday Night Football color commentator, Kirk Herbstreit. Next, NBA Senior Insider, Shams Charania hops on quick to break down Kyrie Irving tearing his ACL, and the other biggest stories around the Association. Next, ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter joins the show to chat about who he sees being franchise tagged, what trades we might see here soon, and what free agency is going to bring. Later, 12 year NFL veteran at QB, and ESPN NFL analyst, Dan Orlovsky joins the show to chat about his future plans, how he thinks this class of free agent QB’s will shake out and where they’ll wind up, and his thoughts on the incoming QB draft class, plus much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this franchise tag deadline Tuesday March 4th 2025 this program starts now. Spored are happening all around us and the NFL has a massive deadline today at 4 o'clock we'll have Adam Schefter join us in the next hour to get the up-to-date information around the league on who's getting franchise tag What player has played through their contract thought they were gonna hit a massive payday for longevity and maybe long-term Security for their family and is actually getting told by their team. You ain't going nowhere You're with us for another year, brother

That's how this is gonna go now the franchise tags have already been out this particular cycle T Higgins gets it for the second straight year Which means there was a bump in pay of what the normal wide receiver franchise tag is by 25% I do believe because he was already franchise tagged once. This is the second time in a row getting franchise tag This is the last time they can franchise tag them back in the day They used to be able to franchise tag people one time two times three times I think even four times Julie's Pepper's got franchise tag three times. Adam Venateri got franchise tag three different times.

They've made a rule that you can only do it twice. T Higgins is in the second year of that. Osa. Oteki Zua. Osa O. Franchise tag by the Dallas Cowboys, Dog, as a defensive tackle. Excited to see how that works out.

And then Trey Smith, obviously, offense alignment for the Chiefs. They have an offensive line question. Got to keep one of their best guys in there, a pillar of everything. And then it has come out through various reports and insiders. Sam Darnold, Javon Holland, and Chris Godwin are not expected to be tagged. So congrats to those three gentlemen hitting the open market. Hope it pays them mightily. And who else will get tagged around the NFL? We'll keep track of all that today we'll talk to Schefter in a second hour we'll also talk to Shams Charani in a second hour Shams Charani a senior insider for the NBA for ESPN obviously coming on talk about Kyrie Irving

for his ACL last night again shot his free throws though tears falling from his eye berries two free throws and those will be the last two shots of the year for he, as this will do it for Kyrie Irving's 2025 season down there in Dallas. Obviously he picked up a brand new teammate after losing Luca and Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis got hurt in his debut game for the Mavs after going crazy.

He did have a good start. Kyrie Irving now out for the rest of the year. And everybody's looking at the GM named Nico who got together with the conditioning staff and the nutritionist and some other suits and somehow convinced themselves that they were more important than Luke Kudonchik to the Dallas Mavericks, shipped him out of town and now the Dallas Mavericks are without Kyrie which is a bummer for all of us because watching Kyrie do his shit is worth a watch all the time. But Anthony Davis not playing, Kyrie do his shit is worth a watch all the time But Anthony Davis not playing Kyrie now out and the Mavs fans mass exodus. Yeah third quarter. This isn't even fourth quarter

Oh, this is a third quarter. Remember there was protests about Luca being sent out of town He was the face of that franchise this Nico guy formerly of Nike I think was the one that negotiated to deal with Anthony Davis and with Nike I think he's also the one that called Steph Curry was the one that negotiated the deal with Anthony Davis and with Nike. I think he's also the one that called Steph Curry, Stephen maybe? I forget, he messed up the entire pitch for Steph Curry. We've learned a lot about this guy because boy Mavericks fans hate this guy. And a lot of people around the NBA go this guy might be the dumbest guy in the history. I think some people said he actually

might have a fetish for being humiliated. That is why he made this decision. I mean that's how far it went with the general manager for the Dallas Mavericks. Now there's conspiracy theories in abundance about the future of this Mavericks team and I guess you have to have that convo. Mark Cuban sold that team obviously last year we were wondering what the deal was then we heard maybe they were trying to get a casino in town now the casino hasn't been cleared are they trying to lose down there in Dallas? Let's go to the talk table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. It's getting loud on the internet about them tanking and trying to get kicked out of Dallas. This is all alleged, but this is a very loud talking point

that we are not making up. This is just actually happening in the real world right now. Yeah, it's all alleged, but the woman that bought the team from Mark Cuban, I believe made a majority of her money, family money from casinos. And the first thing that she said basically was okay like we're gonna put a casino hotel the entire thing a Patriots place which we see with the NFL you know Jerry World

obviously very profitable you go you stay for an entire weekend a week you got the hotel right next to the place it's all right there next to the arena it's all the money you know in one place. We see the top two teams in the NFL when it comes to revenue per home game. The Cowboys make 70 plus mil per home game. The Patriots make 50 plus mil per home game because they own all the stuff around the stadium. That's where everyone is.

That's where everyone spends their time. So one of the first things allegedly she wanted to do was put a casino there. Obviously, hey, that's not going to happen. Oh, okay. I'm not allowed to do that. I'm going to move the team to Vegas because that's where, you know, that allegedly that's where not alleged. Her stuff is, you know, there in Vegas, but allegedly that was what the threat was. Allegedly response. No, you can't move the team from Dallas Dallas is a staple the Mavericks in Texas they've you know they've had success recently both go into the finals and then also Dirk Nowitzki you know beating the the Heedles not too recently

you know so that entire thing and then allegedly after that entire hey no you can't do this you can't move the team you guys have a face of the NBA well no we don't no we don't we are no the team. You guys have a face of the NBA. Well, no, we don't. No, we don't. We got to rub them. No, we don't. He's actually- We got an eyebrow of the NBA,

but he's not going to play a lot of games. We don't think with the way it's going to go. And he has a chance. We're not giving up. No, no, no. We got Kyrie Anthony Davis, new thing. This is for the future of the team. But you can see how the people who are, you know,

conspiring these ideas about what's going on with the Mavs, because the decisions are being looked at as puzzling by everybody. Basketball brains, other people from outside, like these dudes, they're going to be making decisions trying to get the hell out of town, trying to make their fans hate them and I'll tell you what, it worked. Their fans are bailing on them third quarter. Get us the hell out of here.

Not all bad though. They are also raising ticket prices I think 8 to 10% next year. Of course. That is a classic one too. Okay okay we don't have any of your favorite players and you're gonna have to pay more money you don't want to come right? We can't move tickets here anymore. That is wild move if that's the case. What a heel villain move. Oh yeah. By new owner to come in right underneath Mark Cuban's nest because he's still a minority owner and he still has those tickets you know and he's still at the games and he's looking around like i'm just confused everybody else feels like everything we may be built here is kind of

crumbling right in front of our eyes obviously Kyrie's injury doesn't help with that convo we are sending nothing but tees and peas to Kyrie that sucks dude we're so sorry and the Mavs fans Luca's doing it in LA just go with Luca is absolutely doing it. Go with him. In Los Angeles and Lakers are now the number two seed in the west and LeBron James is playing like he's 35 years old again somehow or 32 years old, whatever the case is, even though he's 40 plus. Luca feels right at home and all of LA has embraced Luca and in this time with the fires and the devastation, if the Lakers are going to run, you're talking about an entire city kind of coming behind it.

The NBA does have some interesting storylines brewing right now One of them is Tyrese Halliburton's the greatest of all time. So let's never forget that with the Indiana Pacers That's nine-year NFL vet Daris J. Butler. He agrees His numbers since turnovers been historic so yeah, I mean West Trueblood here Name he said Tyrese Albers one of the greatest point guards I've ever seen. I clicked on Wesley's He is a Pacers fan Basketball follower, basketball lover, Pacers fan. Since 2000 player recording at least 60 assists and 10 or a few turnovers in a six game stretches happened 196 times. Here's a list of the most points scored during those stretches

Oh Tyrese has all of them. Tyrese is the guy. You want to facilitate around the court? Ty Reese is humble enough to do that. You want a little flash? He'll certainly put it through his legs He's not scared to do a full court pass if he has to and then he'll even do one of these while the ball's flying Through the air. Steph Curry has the no look three-point shot where he puts it up and then he turns around and walks away Ty Reese will do that with full court pass and dudes got range He's pulling up from the logo at this point. Ty Reese is ready to lead this Pacers team to a deep, deep, deep run in the playoffs. So good luck to everybody on the Eastern Conference.

That includes the Celtics and the Cavaliers. And do the Knicks even have a team? Nope. What happened with them? They were the team last year. No, no. They're very good. They're 40 and 20. They can't beat anyone with a winning record. Okay, so it's Celtics, Cavs, Knicks, Pacers. Don't sleep on the pistons, boys. They're hot and 20. You can't beat anyone with a winning record. Okay, so it's Celtics, Cavs, Knicks, Pacers. Don't sleep on the Pistons, boys. They're hot right now.

Bucked, Bucks are also, I believe the Bucks are four, then the Pacers, then the Pistons. Anyways, we'll talk to Shams about all this in the next hour. Excited to hear his thoughts on what's going on down in Dallas. Because we're just reading the tea leaves on the internet, like we do with everything. We feel like we're actually more prepared than everybody else that comes on TV with teleprompter and has somebody else type it up and tell them what to say. So that's neither here nor there. Basketball is cooking. Baseball is cooking. Remember we got bumped yesterday for spring training and it was a great game. Was it? Six six in the ninth inning. I think I want to say the

O's may have walked off the red sock down on the bottom of the ninth. It was an unbelievable game. What? Ended in a tie actually. Six six. Baseball baby! Baseball ninth it was an unbelievable game well I don't believe ended in a tie actually six there you go baseball baby baseball's got a lot of soccer I didn't know that I mean it makes sense great training great training NHL is happening obviously stadium series this weekend ninety four thousand seven hundred and thirty people packed the horseshoe in Columbus Ohio to watch the Blue Jackets and the Red Wings do their thing so we'll talk to Kirk Herbstreet who was there with Peter and family this weekend in about five

Ten minutes or so to get his thoughts on not only that but everything Peter hold it down brother You know what? I'm impressed by Peter. He's a puck and just like yeah Yeah, like you know Hotel Transylvania. Sure. Do you know this movie? No, I know I just haven't seen it. I'm saying the movie it is I'm done. Is it cars? That's Sam, man Is it a cartoon? It's cartoons animated He's Dracula sure obviously he has a family his daughter is a monster She falls in love Mary's a regular human regular human in her have a kid obviously now Dracula is trying to make kid Oh, you want a monster?

I've watched four of them brother Hotel Transylvania one Hotel Transylvania two might be the best one just Like Shrek and then three and four also very good Adam Sandler as Dracula just So good I don't even know how to do it I don't know how I got into talking about Hotel Transylvania strictly because I went into a trance right there That movie might be the best movie that Adam Sandler has ever made i've watched it 400 times 400 times anyways they get into a scene though where they're out in public or out in the woods because uh, Dracula's trying to find the kids go out and see they're out in the real world not in Uh the forest that they live in with the monsters and uh, they have a wolf with them

One of the monsters a big bad wolf, you know So they have the monster frankenstein hangs out with them Invisible man hangs out with them wolf the monsters is a big bad wolf. So they have the monster Frankenstein hangs out with them, invisible man hangs out with them, wolf is one of them, big bad wolf, and the big bad wolf has to go out there and scare the shit out of somebody, and somebody throws a frisbee, and this wolf just gets distracted,

and sprints and gets frisbee, come back in the car, has nothing for the people, Adam Sandler has a line like, you're the big bad wolf. It is a great moment. Peter not chasing those pucks is maybe the most impressive thing that I've seen out of Peter. Cause he could see them all night

and Peter is a very athletic, very excitable dog from what I've learned and great pooch. This thing is strapping lad. Connor obviously has his own detail on him, but Peter was at the game. The NHL loved Peter being at the game. Herbie was at the game. We'll talk to him about that.

We'll also talk to him about what's going on right now during the draft season. There's Jorge up in the front there. R1 obviously, big Jake. They got Zach there. Then you got Chase here, Michigan man in- In enemy territory. In enemy territory.

Jorge there is a dentist. And this kid, I have no idea who it is. I assume he's a great kid. Good smile on this kid. Where's Peter? Can we get Peter in the photo? Peter's on the ice, I think chasing a puck. I mean there is a chance They had a great family outing over there 94,000 people at a hockey game school

Yeah, that is a very cool thing excited to hear his thoughts on it all and obviously there was a lot of Ohio State References in the game. It was a helmet. There was a buck guy the whole thing I'm excited here what her be thinks and then we'll talk about what's going on in the NFL, which leads to one half of the hammer, Cowboys AP tone. Tone franchise tag deadline today. Four o'clock. Who should we keep an eye out?

What teams are making moves? Who is really active right now around the NFL? Yeah. So the, one of the teams that we were, I was looking at specifically was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chris Godwin. Now they, they said they're not going to tag him, that but they are still gonna try to get a deal done with him Obviously the Chiefs have tagged their offensive line and they're talking about potentially getting a deal done there It's just it's a lot of these things where like is Sam Sam Darnold gonna get tagged because you know

We talked about it a few weeks over like that would be that would make the most sense for the Vikings because because you tag Sam Darnold you get them in a good number if jj mccarthy is not ready yet that happens and you could still trade sam Darnold if if someone wants them bad enough you tag him and trade him in a situation like that Those are those are really the teams that are mostly dealing with the tag deadline right now Okay, so let's talk about a player that was already tagged and now has negotiated a long-term deal osa player that was already tagged and now has negotiated a long-term deal. Osa has agreed on a four-year $80 million deal with $58 million guaranteed, $20 million signing bonus. Congrats to Osa. I believe Osa will be joining our show in the next few days to chit chat about all this. We do not know him yet. We

cannot wait to meet him, but we do know he's a wealthy man. Congrats to Osa. Obviously you can Google everything about him. This guy as a D alignment for the Dallas Cowboys has been a game record. Doesn't get a lot of conversation about him because Michael Parsons is obviously over there Dallas Cowboys crumble down a stretch. They don't play good. Zach Prescott gets a lot of chatter. Jerry Jones gets a lot of conversation. What the hell is going on in that building? What are the Cowboys? And obviously the commanders have had this incredible year. The Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl champs.

So whenever we talk about the Dallas Cowboys, there's a lot of negative. There's not a lot of shit to get to. This Osa fella never chatted about. Obviously the Dallas Cowboys appreciate his contributions to the Cowboys. $80 million deal for Osa. What a game record.

D-Budge. This is how the free agency bag started off a couple of years ago. Started with a bunch of interior guys, interior offensive linemen interior Defensive linemen you got to be able to stop the run and run the ball So paying taking care of one of you guys before the market even starts like to see it in Dallas Yeah, and that can happen with T Higgins T Higgins can also get traded

Anybody that gets franchise tag today is still you know very much wide This is not a final four o'clock today The four o'clock deadline is on the teams to decide whether or not they wanna have control over the next year of said player. Now that money's guaranteed, so you have to put that money up in the franchise tag, and obviously you have to account for it.

Some teams have numerous guys. Like, there's a lot of players on some teams that are ready to leave, ready to go. There's some teams right now that are dealing with a lot of players wanting to be traded. There's some teams right now that are looking to trade players because they have to pay some players. That leads to the San Francisco 49ers. They traded Debo to the Washington Commanders. I think everybody loves that.

We'll talk to Dan Orlovsky in a third hour today. I heard him chatting about how much he loves this move for the Commanders and for Debo, but they're like, I-Uke is potentially available. We're in a very busy time in the NFL right now. Yeah, and it's awesome just with all the fodder around it. Like I remember when the offseason started and Tone wrote on his whiteboard, like the offseason is the best because there's so many possibilities. Like T Higgins getting tagged at first, of course, devastated Patriots fan want T Higgins more than anybody in free agency right now.

But then I decided, you know what, I'm only going to listen to what Adam Schefter said. And Adam Schefter said last week, Hey,, this is gonna happen with T Higgins getting franchise tag and then teams can come get him So as a Patriots fan still very very excited But it's just sweet now that we can start playing like the place game like especially with Sam Darnold Sam Darnold Gonna be the QB of the future for the Raiders and his Tom Brady gonna get in Sam Darnold's pocket and basically tell him Exactly where to throw the ball every single game day with those cool meetings he would do on Saturdays with Bill Belichick. Is he gonna now do that with Sam Darnold? The possibilities are endless.

It really does feel like the NFL is still all the way at the forefront of talking. You bring up Sam Darnold, he's a massive piece of the conversation. It's almost like the Darnold Domino now is the next one that is going to fall in the quarterback conversation. Now, allegedly that has been reported that the Giants are in on Aaron Rodgers, are they also in on Sam Donald? Is Sam Donald open to going back to the Minnesota Vikings because how great they were all season until the final two games.

Now will he take a shorter, uh, like kind of deal or a big time money deal somewhere else? I mean, there is a lot of convo around Sam Darn right now because we're chit chatting about him potentially getting 50 million a year last year with how he was playing. He earned it. We love when guys have good years on contract years. He came in to kind of be that British quarterback for JJ and play out of his mind. We're in draft season now, combine season and when Sam Darnow was coming out he was kind of like the bell of the ball when it came to draft a lot of people thought he was gonna be the number

One picking that draft ended up going number three didn't start off I wanted to and then you get with KOC you getting this offense to get the guy we had on yesterday Justin Jefferson And we kind of saw the best of what we can expect from this guy still in the prime of his career very very young And I think he will enter that 50 million dollar club along with another guy we were talking about When the Debo Samuel deal went through here's the guys who's making 50 plus right now in the NFL And I would expect Sam Dono get up in that bunch if you can get like a nice Three year deal with after what he's done and then Brock Purdy out and Sam Fran we definitely expect him to crack this list You talk about getting rid of Debo Samuel. Obviously you're expecting that's gonna be opening up

some money on the books for Sam Fran, for Brock to probably get in that maybe $55 million range up there between Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence. You look at this graphic in the number one conversation that has been around this number and how this percentage of a salary cap to one position has been, you can't win a Super Bowl like that. Jalen Hurts.

Boom, boom. Jalen Hurts did it. Howie and the Philadelphia Eagles were able to figure out how to give a large percentage in proportion to every other position of the salary cap to a quarterback and still build the best roster in football. So just do what he does. Mind everybody just do it how he does. Well because they draft very well. No yeah just do it how he does. Yeah I mean I suppose you could do that. The Purdy thing will be interesting though. They'll be very interesting We talked about it a little bit yesterday

But there's a chance to like who's that they could do the Kirk Cousins thing like they could you know You could pay play for like five million this year Whatever I think it was like five point one million and then franchise him two years in a row and then over the course of three years they end up paying him what? Like 97 million like he's not gonna love that his agents not gonna love that But if you're the Niners like that's a pretty good bargain for them as well joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who? Probably has a thought on all of this It's got a big old brain, honey

Gage he's got those baby blue eyes. Oh man. He's got skin like an armadillo Baby blue eyes. Oh man. He's got skin like an armadillo. Because he gets attacked a lot. Needs it. Welcome to the club brother. I've been canceled three times since coming back. Last week Wednesday.

Isn't that crazy? Not even four weeks. Back in the Thunderdome baby. Hey welcome back. I was having a time of my life on vacation. This ain't bad you know. I'm a guy that loves working. Loves being active.

Start thinking about other things. Big night out Date will be released in the coming days And then tickets will go on sale shortly after we are close To a big night out in Pittsburgh an unprecedented evening I believe is how people would describe it after it's done big laughs big sing-alongs massive giveaways couple million dollars worth big night Joining us now ladies and gentlemen is uh The face of college football with both game day and the prime time game on espn called the national championship obviously called the semi-finals

He's also the man who kicks off nfl weekends on thursday night with amazon prime ladies and in front of the program peter's dad Kirk herpstein with Amazon Prime. Ladies and gentlemen, in front of the program, Peter's dad, Kirk Herbstree. Hey, Kirk. How you doing, bud? What's how we doing? Dude, life is good, man. How about you? Life good? What are you getting? What are they coming after you for now, after your vacation? Well, we alluded to a number one story in the world that I think a lot of these suits had no idea existed because they don't do research all day all night on the internet so

then they try to kill us never said a name said allegedly even showed empathy because that is an incredibly sad sad sad situation but very real situation that was happening in the world in which we live and then obviously Canada booze our national anthem like I do what I gotta do you know and then all of a sudden that seems to be a fireable offense. Take this guy off all microphones. Cause he's proud to be an American. Yeah. So, you know, it's, it's a good time. Fireable.

Get them off there. This guy's going to put us into a permanent political problem. Shut up, dude. You know, like this guy, this guy's the worst. Anyways, nonetheless, it's great to be back. Love that we get to do this for a living. Feels like we get treated the same as everybody else that has a microphone and talks about sports. It is an honor to do this for a living. Feels like we get treated the same as everybody else that has a microphone and talks about sports.

It is an honor to do it. With that being said, draft season, combine season, franchise tag season. What's the big conversation? Sam Darnold, let's start there. Obviously you get a chance to watch him both through college, you watch his NFL career go the way it goes, you watch last year how it ends is a bummer

because everybody was waiting for that to happen with Sam Darnold seemingly, even though their team was 14 in 2 had a Chance to be the number one seed in the NFC had an offense that was dynamic all damn year his last two games He doesn't play his best football the Vikings don't play their best ball and everybody says that's who Sam Donald is we go from him Making 50 million a year in this world to what's this gonna look like for Sam? What are your thoughts on Sam Donald and what do you think about the rest of the quarterback market, Herbie?

Well, I think it starts with JJ. If JJ McCarthy is not there, then I think this is a totally different discussion. And I think when you have a year the way he enjoyed last year with KOC, who has an offensive system that's very quarterback friendly, he was able to flourish, not to mention obviously the ability that was around him. But I think, you know, you talk to KOC, who to me is one of the great guys to talk to when it just comes to just talking ball with him. I mean, how much does he love JJ McCarthy after the year that Sam just had, in a time right now where, let's face it, if you don't have the guy,

you have no shot at the postseason. He's got a guy, but I think it sounds like, based on if you're reading the tea leaves, that they're going to go back to J.J. McCarthy because they had such big visions of what he could become. And it's incredible. But I think that tells you if that's the route they go, how much confidence and where this offense potentially can go, maybe where the franchise can go with JJ McCarthy. So I think he's the wild card in all this. If he's not there, I think it's a no brainer. You re-sign Sam.

What do we have about six or seven teams right now that desperately need a quarterback? Pittsburgh Giants, Raiders, Brands, Jets, Titans, Jets. Jets. I mean would you throw the Saints in there? I mean Derek Carr's got another few years but you know they're gonna eventually unless they think Rattler's their guy. There are a bunch of teams out there that could use Sam Darnold. There's never been a knock on Sam Darnold's ability to throw a football, ever. That's his physical skill set. That's what makes the timing of this conversation interesting.

A lot of people put so much into these workouts. Will Howard, it's like everything he did this year on the field, it's like he had a terrible workout, he's trash. It's like, geez. It's amazing how we look at this position, we forget that it's the ability to process, it's the intangibles, the leadership, decision making. That is tenfold, can you hit an out cut to a receiver you've never thrown to at the combine and yet we just we put so much into what you do at the combine and what you do at a workout versus what you do when you wear shoulder pads and a helmet and your ability to be able to read the coverage

and make good decisions so Darnold was able to show that. Up to that point, he's not been consistent in that skillset as being able to really break down a defense and have quick decisions and know where the ball needs to go and put it out there accurately. And he put that on display and he's gonna be the beneficiary of that. So, that's exciting.

That's great for him. And now we get to look at all these rookies and most of these quarterbacks, wouldn't you say if they were coming out last year? I don't know if they're up there at one and two. That's been the narrative going into the combine and then coming out. I don't think anybody has really changed anything. Cam Ward, obviously a superstar talent, great leader down there in Miami. I think a lot of people are hoping. Shador Sanders, obviously is held in high regard.

A lot of people talking a lot of things. There's some reports coming out that some people in meetings didn't feel like Shador was as invested or something like that. Shador also just always has like a, Shador is always like this it feels like. He's been in the spotlight since he's what, junior high probably. So he has probably built up a callous to having him over emotional. I think they probably know what's happening or it feels like the Sanders' might already have a heads up on what's taking place with him If not, he feels comfortable enough whenever he gets in a building to go

But yes to your point last year's draft class was absurd and they ended up performing in an absurd fashion Which leads to JJ. Back to the Minnesota Vikings with JJ McCarthy, we've always said it feels like the coach of the year Kevin O'Connell can drop a play for if you can throw a football. It feels like you can be a quarterback for that particular team. JJ we know can spin it. We know JJ is an incredible leader. We know JJ is beloved by his teammates but we have no idea if JJ can read NFL defenses. We have no idea what this entire thing is. So in my eyes, they'd probably want to vet for another year, you know, just to see if

JJ is ready or if he's a guy because I don't know how much he was in the building. But is it going to be a guy that's worth as much as Sam Donald? I'm not 100% sure. And what is Sam Donald worth? Those are all fair. Those are all fair thoughts. I just give a lot of credit to KOC's ability to evaluate quarterbacks and ability to, if he's willing to let go of Sam Darnold, if in fact that's the direction they go, you

know, think about what Kirk Cousins did at his age in that offense and now picture Kirk Cousins at 23 or 24 with mobility. You know, we get around these guys in college. Got it. What J.J. McCarthy did for Michigan to get them over the hump in 21. He was the quarterback and there was a great defense and a lot of great players on that team. But he gets them over the hump where they beat Ohio State in 21, gets them to the playoff where they get embarrassed by Georgia,

come back to, I'm sorry, that year they ended up losing to TCU in a game they should have won. You guys remember that one. Yeah, that T easy. It's embarrassed. I mean, think of that three year run. Beat Ohio State lose to Georgia. Beat Ohio State get to the playoff probably should have beat TCU should have been in the national championship come back the very next year and get it all done. That's on his back. That's him doing that. And I just I you never know with quarterbacks

But watching these guys and watching the intangibles putting KOC with JJ McCarthy and the talent on that roster to me The Vikings go to another level with JJ McCarthy Well, I think he can do in that off get better with JJ saying hey What are we talking about? Also save a lot of money to build up that roster because you've already spent money on Justin Jefferson, another JJ, who's obviously phenomenal. He was on our show yesterday. Love that man.

Great. I would like to let, Quacey, if you would like to trade him to Indy, I don't know if I have the power to make those decisions, but I- How's things going in Indy right now with you and the Colts and the boys and- I shook Chris Ballard's hand,

talked to Chris Ballard down at the combine. I talked to Shane Steichen. How'd that go? I just told him I thought his locker room was crap. I didn't think that was his fault. I didn't think it was his fault. I just think the players that are in that locker room, he probably had faith would be professionals.

And a lot of them aren't. So I don't put that on him, but kinda though. I feel like the players should show up for your team A lot of them aren't, you know, so like I don't put that on him, but kind of though, you know, like that is the I Feel like the players should show up for your team a lot more than they do especially with everything we were hearing Well, when you play when you turn a lot Not just the Colts obviously heard a lot of stuff that's like this is not All those guys came back they had the reunion if that type of guy If they witnessed what was happening Allegedly in this locker room that you're saying. Yeah, how would that be handled would have be handled by Tony would have be handled by the players

No, yeah, that's that's players. That's that is like a lot of this shit is locker room stuff Like anytime you hear coaches go like the team needs to be led by the locker room. Like the locker room needs to lead. It's because like the coach can say something obviously, but if the coach can't reach the person in the first meeting like here's the expectations. It's like the players have to hold each other accountable is my thoughts. Which is why I said the way I said the things I was saying about the Colts is like hey, this is on your locker room that this stuff is happening. Like and I don't know if they took that. You're probably getting a phone call from the Indianapolis Colts locker room right now don't listen to him don't listen to him yeah he's lying he's lying he's lying but it's like the things we've heard it's like it feels like

there has to be some sort of leadership in our locker room going hey that ain't how we roll around here and that's how it would have been like when I got in trouble obviously everybody was happy that was okay but immediately I got a bunch of texts from all the OGs that are like hey you're blowing it brother it brother. Like this is not, this is, hey, this is your life. This is like everything, but also this is not how we operate over here. Like you need to clean your shit up. You know, like it was like, uh, like a stern talking to almost. But isn't that the case in team sports? Like the elite teams have what you're describing. Yes, exactly. And we have enough talent in Indian apolis. Like the talent is in abundance.

We've paid so many people. There's a lot of experience. It's like, but in a locker room, just letting people get away with shit like that is. Well, who are the guys potentially on that roster that can provide that? Well, you can just look at the people that have been paid second contracts almost completely through it that have been here since the beginning. It's like, but one of them for three weeks was potting at the beginning of this entire thing. And it's like, that sets a standard and it's like, just continues to go. But with that being said, everything can change boys. They can change. You guys, you guys still go to the games, right?

You guys dialed in next year. Okay. Yeah. I heard we are. Let's move along. Let's move along. We heard it's not just the Colts, by the way, also at the combine heard that it is a, I don't want to see an an epidemic but there's a lot of teams that

are operating in ways that you don't think professional athletes should be operating if you have a good culture right now I think that is not as rare that's rare that's a great thing instead of us complaint because it's in college football obviously too with nio on the portal so instead of saying if I'm a franchise if I'm a a GM or an owner, instead of complaining. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Double thumbs up. Double thumbs up.

Yeah, you were dancing over there. You and AI kind of tag team in this interview. I appreciate that. Bro, why did the first two guys come out? I mean, I'm not saying that they're not going to be in the show. Double thumbs up. Boop, boop, boop. Da da da, da da da da da da. Yeah, you've been dancing over there. You and AI kind of tag team in this interview. I appreciate that. Bro, why did the fireworks go off?

Because we're celebrating you making a great point about team culture. It sounded like coming out of this combine. You know, that, that, what that, I'm saying if you're an owner or a GM and you're dealing with these players that are coming in, it's a very different deal than you're used to. To me, isn't that...

Look at Ohio State or look at Notre Dame or look at these teams that are trying to figure it out in college. Can't you separate yourself now by finding those guys? They're out there. So, if I'm a GM, I'm not just going to Indy and I'm clicking to 40 and I'm just, oh, you've got a 40 inch vertical. This is great. Like, aren't you trying to get to know these guys and trying to build a locker room instead

of just worrying about having an all star team with a bunch of physical freaks? Like I think it's more of an opportunity to separate yourself by finding the right guy to, to kind of nip in the bud what you're describing sounds like it's going on in Indianapolis right now. Yeah, because everybody's going to make mistakes, obviously. That happens. These people are growing with money. They're in the spotlight.

But it's like getting everybody to be going in the same direction and caring about team and just feeling as if you care. At least portray that you care that you are winning. Look at Justin Jefferson who you talked to yesterday was a great interview Thank you. I've watched him since this guy was like a zero star one star He had older brothers that went to LSU's brother was a quarterback and he wasn't highly touted And he really developed and made himself with that competitive spirit that he has The player that he became at LSU with tomorrow one side him on the other

I mean it was ridiculous in 19 with Burrow throwing to him. And if you watch him at times at LSU, you could see if you didn't know him, his wiring and you didn't meet him. If he didn't get the ball early in a game, you could see, hey, is this guy selfish? Is he worried about himself? But once you get to know him and you watch him and listen to him talking yesterday This guy's competitive spirit is unique and he's dialed in does he get frustrated at times sure But he's dialed in on the game plan. He knows what they're trying to do and when it doesn't happen He's not saying give me the damn ball like, you know, we're winning but I'm not getting my catches

This guy dialed in on winning the game and what it takes to win the game Let's execute. Let's execute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm guessing if things aren't going right because they're losing the game He's on the sideline talking to guys about what we need to do to win and compete see that's gold right now to a franchise You just got to find them You got to find those dudes that are that are willing to bring more than just their physical ability when we talked to hardball andugh and Hortiz, it was like, that's all we're looking for. Basically talk to McVeigh yesterday. What are you looking for? Dogs. That's all we're looking for. You look at the Kansas City Chiefs. I assume they're going to bring in dogs, people that buy in being at the bills.

All he's looking for people that buy into the team and be dogs. It's like the teams who are good though, you know, it seems like the teams that are good now in Philadelphia Eagles. I mean they have literally all they care about is like we get about. Detroit Lions. All these teams that are good seemingly have a very similar thing happening and all the other teams have something else going on. Maybe we, Vrabes? Ravens. Ravens. Vrabes will bring it to New England. Okay, on that note, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Herbie, Vrabel, obviously getting

hired to New England, basically the biggest hire, the first hire of the entire cycle. How do you feel about that? And then some of the other guys as well, Glenn to the Jets, Pete Carroll to the Raiders, do you feel as though kind of that tough culture is coming back a little bit? And are you expecting the Patriots to win 14-15 games like I am or where you at with Domenic Drake-May?

Well I think we all know Vrabes we all know his wiring yeah I always wondered even when he was in Tennessee is he gonna end up back in New England at some point and replace Bill Belichick I think we all kind of thought as he became more and more successful in Tennessee that that was gonna be potentially something that could happen down the road. It's a natural fit. I'm sure, I haven't spoken to him lately, but I bet you, like any of us,

because of the experience that he had in Tennessee, the way it went down, he had a chance to kind of regroup in Cleveland, kind of on the back burner, and a chance to really grow and continue to become a guy that can relate to what we're talking about. If anybody understands what we're talking about, it's Mike Vrabel. I mean, Vrabel got it as a player. He had that, his experience in college and of course in the NFL when he got to eventually to New England. And he understands the value in that. And he's very, very good at being able to relate to these guys still, see him put the pads on and hit dudes.

I try not to be super biased towards variable because I'm a huge fan of his. I've known him since he was 18 years old. But I have a ton of faith that, who knows how many games are going to win. Yeah, we're talking. He's packing both sides and the top. Have a little and then doing this. And then he'll race you and he'll beat you to like that is the wife.

Jan will whip your ass to. So, I mean, the whole deal. I mean, they just. Such an Ohio family, isn't it? Disgraceful. Now doing they are. They're taking Ohio. Now doing the thing. I'm excited to watch Rames up there. Isn't it? This is a Raeble family. Now New England. They are, they're taking Ohio. Now they're New England family. I'm excited to watch Raebs up there.

He was already, you know, making the rounds. He did, there was a reading day, a national reading day. He went to a local school and was reading. Big applause. Hand shake. Obviously he loves the community. He's probably done a lot with that community in the past. Remember whenever he went into the ring of honor,

the hall of fame or whatever it is, he said, do not take this for granted. How special. All they say is that was basically allegedly the get this guy out of our building says the tennessee titans people so i think he's eager to get back there eager to turn the franchise back around eager to make him a contender again and i think he loves the community i think he loves the team i think he loves everything about and remember you don't want to be the guy that replaced you know the guy that has to be the guy that steps in after Bill Belichick.

You want to be the guy that replaced the guy. Yeah, that's always a good place. That's a good place. Yeah, I think the timing of this is outstanding. And New England obviously has to be, Connor, they got to be thrilled with, bringing one of the boys back. Oh yeah.

To bring him back to the glory years. Yeah, he's actually trying to find a variable quote to put on the other bicep. Yeah, that might even be a trice. I mean, it was just shocking. Like as soon as like Mayo gets fired immediately after that game, the first thought is, holy shit, they're really going to bring Vrabel back and then for it to happen the way it does. Yeah, it was like it was talked about for like two, three weeks. They're leading into the end of the season like, yo, Vrabel is coming back.

Yeah, Vrabel is coming back. And by the way, the Aaron Glenn,, yo, Vrabel's coming back. Yeah, Vrabel's coming back. Vrabel's coming back. And by the way, the Aaron Glenn, I've just spent a lot of time with him doing these Lions games and get some one-on-one time with him and then hearing the story about how he, hey, I'm a former player.

Like a lot of these guys now, they're former players, they want to step in and be like Deon or like Eddie George. They want to become the head coach. Aaron Glenn intentionally went basically to the bottom and worked himself all the way up and learned every aspect of the franchise to one day become a qualified in his mind, a qualified head coach. I just really respect phenomenal player. Maybe could have had, hey, you know who I am? I'm a pro bowler. Let me start as a secondary coach. But he kind of worked his way up paid his dues

With a big part of that Detroit ability to turn that franchise around witnessed it I'm excited to see what he can do. I mean he's going to a black hole as far as trying to win Yeah, that's what about that was my next question. That was my next question So you think the Jets organization can win is what it sounds like if you're if everything you're saying with Aaron Glenn everything you did In Detroit, it sounds like. If you're, if everything you're saying with Aaron Glenn, everything he did in Detroit, it's like, okay, so wearing that jersey, you can win. If you let him, if you let him bring in what he learned and the ownership is hands off and you're just gonna let this guy do his thing

with the new front office, then yeah, I think they can. Well, I do wonder what Brick's gonna learn from Aaron Glenn. Could you talk about like this? From Aaron? Get a chance to teach him? Experience everything. Yeah well you're talking about Brick learn or teach up AG on what it's like to be a jet. Aaron final level get your masters from Brick. I understand that Brick could probably share some information with Aaron Glenn the new head coach. Brick Johnson's who were talking about what did Johnson sign who gave out game balls after the game New York Times reported that not us We're just telling you what was being said. We have not got that confirmed from asking in the locker room strictly because we don't want to have the

Embarrassment of your organization to get the actual story of it So with that being said Woody is allegedly come out and said I have to learn to be a better owner as well Brick wasn't around the locker room. I guess the last few weeks So maybe maybe the Jets are making a turn. Good luck to the Jets The last one is P Carol coming back how great is that I mean, that's wonderful Honestly, he got kicked out of Seattle Kirby. He got kicked out He said he went in there and fought for his job memories Remember he said, four hours or something. I competed for my job. Yeah, but you know, maybe, you know, it's so hard to sustain,

you know, when you, I don't know how many years, how many years was he there? 10, 12? I can't remember how many years. 14? Yeah, like 15, maybe? But you know, you get to that 10 year mark, it's really hard to keep it going.

So maybe they, maybe Seattle just felt, no matter how much they loved him, they needed to start fresh. I'm just glad to see. I thought maybe that was it for him. I'm glad to see he still has that fire. He's coming back, hires Chip Kelly as the OC. We all know about Max and what he brings on the defensive side.

This is a franchise all of us want to kind of see get back to being the kind of franchise that they can be. And hopefully Pete Carroll can do it. Big problem is obviously who's gonna be in a quarterback? Yeah, Tom Brady and ownership. And obviously Tom Brady, very hands on from what we're hearing. Tom Brady is very, very, very, very, very, very active. We're talking about everyday phone calls,

long conversations. But would you expect anything less? No. I mean, if he's gonna put his money up there. So I thought I did expect less actually because like minority owners in the NFL you don't really hear much from. Minority owners in the NFL you only hear about whenever they become majority owners in other places. And the reason why a lot of people become minority owners in teams is to prove the NFL that you're willing to get into their league, we understand what it is,

and then hopefully you get an opportunity to become a majority owner somewhere else. Tappers with the Steelers, Harris or somewhere, like there is a lot of it that takes place. So you very rarely hear about minority owners though getting their hands in the weeds. He wants seven rings, I mean bring him in. AI agrees. AI does agree, but I don't think I expected it because nobody's ever done it. But then once you hear like, hey, Tom Brady's the one doing the interviews, it's like, that makes sense.

Like if you have the capability for Tom Brady to do the interviews, you should do that. Hey, Tom Brady is like day to day, keep it up on everything. It's like, that makes sense if you have Tom Brady doing all those things. So if you have a quarterback, you would assume Tom Brady will help

in the entire process. We shall see. Tom Brady will help every aspect of any franchise. You know, I mean, let him in there and, and how he works with Pete is interesting, right? And that whole dynamic. Chip Kelly too, the offense coordinator. There's a lot.

And they're saying Russell Wilson, maybe Justin Fields, maybe get a veteran quarterback in there that you can pay not as much as everybody else. Then maybe you still draft Shador, who obviously very tight with Tom Brady and Mark Davis, and they're in the top 10. So, I mean, there's a lot on the table for the Las Vegas Raiders, but Tom Brady being hands-on, to your point, with seven rings, good news for the Raiders. Hopefully the same for the Jets. Speaking of the Jets, they have a quarterback conversation happening as well. Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Herbie, the first thing the Jets did was they basically anyone who had any ties to Aaron Rodgers They said get the hell out of here. We're done. We're not doing this again. This is a girl Yeah, no ultimatum obviously you can do what you want. You're just not gonna fucking do it here So you know get out of town? But we've heard now in the the coming or the last couple weeks that like the the Giants after they lost out on Matthew Stafford They're full bore on wanting Rogers It seems like that's kind of the only option if he does want to play right away Barring what might happen elsewhere like we just saw the Raiders aren't necessarily interested in in your opinion

What do you think Rogers is going to do this next year? I mean you guys would know better than anybody based on you guys being around him as much as you are. I've got to believe that now that he's fully healthy, in his mind, he can still execute and make plays and lead a team to victories and eventually get them into the postseason. If he feels that way, you've got to think, we just went over the list of teams that are out there. Don't you think somebody is willing to take a chance and give him a shot to prove what

he can be? At this stage his career, after what happened with the injury and what happened last year with the Jets where he just couldn't get going, I think people that are evaluating it, they're evaluating it on how much of that falls on him, how much of that falls on the franchise as a whole. But man, it's still Aaron Rodgers and you watch quarterback play every week in this league and you think a guy like Aaron Rodgers, what is he 41 now? If he's healthy and he's 100% and he's all in,

you got to think somebody out there is gonna be willing to give him a shot and show what he can do. The Giants are already basically saying, allegedly, yeah, it's all up to, that's a big decision whether or not he wants to come back and play and sign up for it. Maybe the last three games, four games where they were balling and being everything that we all thought they were going to be for their entirety at the Jets with that offense, maybe that's enough for him to go out and say, yeah, I could still do it if I had to, but I'm good. I played great at the end.

I proved people I could still get back from an Achilles injury. We had some success. But in my eyes, there's no- What's your guys all, what's all your gut? What's your gut feel? Is he playing next year? I think he plays next year, yeah. Just strictly because anytime this situation has arose,

is that the proper word? Yeah. Arose. You looked at one of those. Such a clatter, I believe is from the Santa Claus. Yeah, that's when the reindeer. Yeah, that's when the reindeer at the roof. Yeah, right there where he comes down there.

You know, anytime these situations have arose in the past, AJ Hawk, who is very tight with Aaron goes like I don't know what what what else would Aaron yes Aaron's gonna play football is what AJ always says even though Aaron has not told AJ and I think everybody that's around Aaron assumes that like that decision could you know that could go very easily both ways you watch Enigma and I think you know greenie has and the world has and you learn a lot about this man who I think has been misunderstood and misrepresented by a lot of people for a very long time. I think he's a hippie who's super competitive and obviously goes about doing his business how he does it.

Everything he does though, the ayahuasca, the darkness retreat, that is for him to become a better football player. He's trying to work on himself to become the best version of himself to become a better football player. And obviously a lot of ridicule comes to him about not being married not having the kids Yada, yada. He's ballplayer. This guy literally loves ball He's an old-school football player still has the loose strap that he undoes every single time getting hurt and still playing is a big deal For him. So like I think a lot of people don't really judge him by who he actually is They judge him by what they hear about him from other people who don't know him and with that being said They judge him by what they hear about him from other people who don't know him.

And with that being said, he is one of the most competitive people on earth. The reason why he loves the NFL is because it's an ability to scratch the competitive itch that he's always going to have for an entire life. I assume, and he won't say this and he obviously doesn't think this is the case, but like, when he gets into golf at some point

when he retires, he's going to get very, very, very good at golf. He's going to get very locked in at golf because right now he'll play twice a year and he'll end up shooting 73, 74. Like he's gonna be one of those guys who's all, he doesn't think this because he is a hippie, plays guitar, does the traveling, likes to do a lot of inner perspective searching

and everything like that. That competitive drive that he has is gonna, he's gonna have to get into something. And he knows if it's not football,. And he knows if it's not football, deep down he knows if it's not football, it's gonna be something else. So I think the ability to still play football at the level that he has,

with the bad taste in his mouth, without a just one, because I think he wanted to bring a parade to New York. I think he was very, he took a lot of pride in being the one that was gonna do it. So I think he still has bad taste in his mouth. I think he plays football again.

I don't know where the hell it's gonna be. The Giants allegedly- Are you guys gonna be allowed to interview him if he does I read something you guys weren't allowed to It was part of the deal. What do you got there for me? There's a little ultimatum allegedly from scoop town That there was an ultimatum made to him that if you wanted to come back and play for the Jets He's gonna have stopped doing our show and once again, it never ends just never ends and then the GM comes out Yeah, that's bullshit. We were moving on regardless wasn't like he said we're not doing our show and once again it never ends just never ends and then the GM comes out yeah that's bullshit we're moving on regardless wasn't like he said we're not doing a show so who knows we're cool with whatever we've been very lucky that we've got a chance to chat with them we all enjoy

that we all enjoy those weekly interviews not everybody, not everybody, not everybody enjoys it oh I don't agree with his opinion That is uh, it's not some people operate, you know, you get you get some of that I've gone on some rides The number two seed in the room it getting heat I think Connor pretty good Connor Connor's pretty good. You get some stuff. Yeah, but I don't see any of it I can't really read very well. Yes, he just keeps it doesn't even matter

You know, I think Connor probably gonna get me other than that. It's just you know, we're up here have a conversation You know based in reality. Okay with some jokes in between or just joking. We're just hey and also informant Which leads to this? Now stick with the NFL. Let's stick with the NFL before we move to other topics. With that being said, there is a man who hosts everything DB, good D, bad D, who has a question about these prospects that you would know more about than us. D-BUTT, representing Compton Country Club.

That's a question for you. Yep, gotta ask you, cause I'm sure you've called a bunch of these guys' game, and every year I feel like it's a rookie DB corner that hits the ground running this past year was Quinion Mitchell out in Philly also corporate disease in the slot who this year you think will be that guy we had some great performances at the combine Hairston he flew out of Kentucky Baron I feel like he tested much better than I thought he would he's played all over the defensive backfield will Johnson the phenomenal corner out

of Michigan who's that corner that DB that you think will hit the ground running and take the NFL by storm this year? I think it's Jaday Baron. That would be my guy. Had a great combine. Yeah, I saw he ran well. He worked out, which is fun to see these guys. Some of these guys opt out for obvious reasons.

This guy decided to go out and compete. I covered this guy a lot, probably called over 11 or 12 of his games. I love to see a guy, and you understand this better than anybody, one year he's out there playing that slot and playing it as well as anybody. When you say that to people who are fans, when play the slot it's not just okay he's on the inside I mean he's a run support he's blitzing every game he's playing space he's playing man I mean the versatility is off the charts with him and then you know the next year he comes back and he's on the outside and maybe you can

explain in layman's terms how hard that is at the elite college football and NFL level to have the skill set to play both in and out. But he did it flawlessly and he's got some great intangibles, great leader, captain. So not only the numbers are going to jump out, but he's played in a lot of big games at the highest level. And like I said, the versatility is what makes me think he's got a a lot of big games at the highest level and like I said, the versatility is what makes me think he's got a shot to really step in year one in the NFL and be turnkey. Yeah, that's really, really, really tough to do to go from that inside and go outside. He didn't just go out there and excel.

He won the Thorpe award this year. But yeah, so on the outside you have that sideline kind of as your friend, but outside of that you're pretty much one-on-one and island if you're any type of man-to-man situation And when you're in that inside you got space to your inside space to the outside got to communicate with your linebackers play the run Game just completely a different position. I love this guy and everything He's done in the football field as well. He kind of reminds me of like a like a Malcolm Jenkins He was a guy that was the top corner in my class and we came out But you didn't know if he was gonna play safety if he was gonna play in the slot

And once he got to the NFL, he pretty much did it all won a couple super bowls He had the intangibles as well. So I see a lot a lot of similarities with Baron and Malcolm Jenkins Harvey, you know this D but played all over the place in the box In the back you gotta add some mentality thing too You gotta commit to studying, you gotta commit to a lot of studying because you gotta know a lot of different jobs, and you gotta commit to a physicality,

you know, that not everybody is able to do at that size. I communicate too. That's why what Cooper DeGene was able to do, and you know, X and O's wise, he was in the slot corner. You gotta be able to communicate with the backers, with the safeties, with the corners, and play fast, man, it's tough in there.

Were they able to understand his language he was, with the safeties, with the corners, and play fast, man. It's tough in there. Were they able to understand his language he was speaking out there? Yeah, I'm sure. This guy seems to be speaking a different language. What's this guy? Hey! Speak! He got, he got, you know, he was locked in.

He was dialed in. Exciting whites are quite a duo over there. They might be the only ones left in the secondary after. No, Riley. Riley Moss. ones left. Yeah in the secondary after no rather Moss Pet it's pretty much you just look at Iowa. I got it All you can hang out like I do secondary exact hold on They got that white track guy to ran a four two or something like that before one was that half-time? Yeah, I don't remember what I don't know what he did. I don't think you want a big-time championship

So truck fan saw him and said get that guy off our field. He's too. He can't get that guy an end around guys running for one on the fucking field No, we tried you guys can't get a first down now Yeah Well, we put Cooper Jean on offense and he broke his fucking foot and missed the big ten championship So he said enough of this shit. All right Let's just run the ball up the middle three times and then punt If he's out there you had a real shot against Michigan that year. I think so If he's out there you had a real shot against Michigan that year. I think so

This guy's now the father of Michigan man, yeah Showing some respect last question here before our heart out from a P tone. Yeah, Harvey six quarterbacks were drafted in the first round Last year, I believe we know for sure two were gonna be this year The question is is there going to be a third? Do you have a third guy that you like the most? I mean Jackson dart threw well at the combine Quinn threw well at the combine Brady cook through well Tyler Chuck through well the combine Will was you know, we'll did better. He got better Is there a guy you like third? What are you talking about? Well, he started he didn't know those guys Well, yeah, neither do the other guys Kirby. Kirby well they're used to throwing the four nines okay geez Louise I I I would probably give Jackson Dart the the nod you know he

started his career at USC before he transferred over to Ole Miss I think he's got a presence he's got an offense that I think that's the thing I really want to see with him is the ability to be able to show what he can do when it comes to what we talked about earlier with JJ McCarthy. Not just throwing the ball around, but being able to go to that next level with how sophisticated these NFL offenses are, being able to read coverage, being able to get the ball out, whether you're under center, whether you're in gun. And I think he obviously helped himself with what he did in this past week. But I think his game film, to be able to go up into the first round,

they're gonna really study every aspect of his game when it comes to can he be that franchise guy? And I think one thing about Ole Miss- I didn't know he could scoot like that. I didn't know, one thing about Ole Miss. Dude, I didn't know he could scoot like that. I didn't know Jax could scoot scoot. Dude, he's an athlete. He really, I mean, he can go. That's a compliment.

He'll surprise you. You know, Tyler Shucks, the other one that a lot of people are fired up about. And he's another guy who's sneaky, athletic ability, because of his size, you wouldn't say that, but he he started in Oregon had tremendous ability to create that Joe Morehead offense So yeah, he's another guy that I think Waited and Jeff Brom we know what he can do with quarterbacks So it only benefited him from being at Louisville and throwing it around over there Okay, before we get out of here about 30 seconds

How awesome was that Stadium Series game for your Columbus Blue Jackets versus Detroit Red Wings in front of 94,730 people and one dog? Well, first of all, meaningful games. They played on Thursday night, two points on the line. Jackets got that one up in Detroit, came back home, 94,000, over 94,000. I've been there hundreds of times. It was just surreal to see a ice rink in the middle of that stadium, to see the way the

Blue Jackets fans, to me, a great fan base come out and support this team. This team hadn't been good for six or seven years, and they finally got a young nucleus through the draft. It's kind of starting to gel together at the right time. They're kind of a dangerous team. It's cool to see that many people come out and support them and then go out and get two more points, which are critical right now, chasing these wild card spots. Congrats to your Blue Jackets being relevant again.

You know, and I didn't know if they're gonna be able to fill up that stadium because how bad they had been. That place filled up. It looked wonderful. It was cold. The ice was great. The game was magic. Congrats to hockey, you know, from Canada. Congrats to hockey. That's a good thing out of Canada. There we go. Good job, man. Good job.

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A buzzsaw. Yeah massive. And obviously free agency officially starts eight days next Wednesday, but really it starts in six days on Monday. Some of the names on there are very interesting. We were just talking about this kind of this list will basically set the draft. We've been talking about the combine and everything, but the guys on this list will really kind of tell you

what teams, especially at the top, are going to be aiming for. I know for New England you know a couple wide receivers up there will depend on who they want to get. We were also just mentioning some of these quarterbacks and although I don't see him up there I believe he might be more of a trade candidate a guy like Dan Jones coming to Indianapolis that would be something that I got my eye on when it comes to next week. Really? Yeah just because it feels as though Dan Jones coming to Indianapolis that would be something that I got my eye on when it comes to next week yeah just because it feels as though Dan Jones would thrive in a stiking lead offense it feels like that would be a huge competition between DJ and AR and that is what I'm kind of looking for. The really question came from nine-year NFL vet former Indianapolis court

everything DB host Darius J. Butler what's the really what's the surprise all about? I mean that's just I mean not not even a list and he just right there on your mind that he will be the guy He's got strong legs. He can run good. Yeah I have a question for you How many playoff games and Sam Donald win last year because guess what? It's not as many as Dan Jones has in his bag Okay. Yeah, so I'm just saying when we're looking at guys you want to win with Dan Jones has that capability. He's tall, he can run, he's smart. He's very smart, he's very tough, but even some of those names out there, I mean look

at the Chiefs. The Chiefs have two of their wide receivers from this past year up there and then you know a Charvarius Ward, Debut can probably speak more to it. One of the best corners in the league. Yeah, him being a free agent is massive. I feel like Hassan Reddick's interesting cuz will he play you know, that's kind of a fun little game Oh, you can play during you can trade for you buy it sign them. You better get them on that dog line I'm on a guy who came what third for defense player there

Eagles gonna let him get to the free agency. That's one half of the hammer Cowboys AP tone Zach bond there Zach Bond, Darius Slay. Who else from the Philadelphia Eagles secondary? Brad Berry? Brad Berry, yep. I believe was really, I mean, there's a lot going on. There's a lot of moving parts. There's a lot of money getting shifted.

Who will be the odd person out, odd man out of rosters? And who will sign these guys and change everything they have and maybe go on and reach the climax of Lombardi Mountain. Who's gonna make a signing that's gonna change a culture, change a franchise, change a city this offseason? It could be your team and your team could also bring in a cancer that ruins your team. That's right. True. Your team could waste too much money on a player and end up going to absolute trash but on the flip side you get a great deal and a proven deal and somebody comes in and really takes ownership of your team, puts the team on their back and changes everything in the locker room

Maybe Dan Jones to the Colts is the right guy Maybe Dan Jones comes in goes boys out there giants. It was terrible at the Vikings. It was good Let me tell you how things got to go this I can operate. Yeah, you gotta be on time. You gotta show up things Okay, that's part of being a professional football player Because how you do anything is how you do everything? And how you guys have been doing a lot of things is not how any of us want you do anything is how you do everything. Mm-hmm. You know, you guys have been doing a lot of things It's not how any of us want to do anything This is Dan given speed is Danny guys, baby. I could see him in black and gold. I can see him black gold Press one button car automatic start stand too close car alarm my bark Daniel Jones going to Pittsburgh

Yeah, I can't say literally can't say no to anybody right now Yeah, well, you guys have no quarterbacks joining us now as a man who might play quarterback this year He's a college football national champion super champion Ryder Cup winner We have no idea if he'd pass any of the drug tests ladies and gentlemen AJ Hawke Hawker how do you feel pal? I feel pretty good. I don't think I'm gonna be playing quarterback anytime soon But I am interested about that Daniel Jones to the Indianapolis Colts. That's uh, I think that's a real possibility. Everybody's excited about it. Things are happening. Are they? City's a buzz. Yeah. Everybody's real excited. I think the Indianapolis City is just, uh, let's get to

next year and let's see how this is gonna go. Oh, 26. No. Nobody's saying they're on to 26. Nobody. Nobody's saying they're on to 26. Nobody. Nobody is saying they're on to 26. Everybody's saying, this is going to be good. Same team, same players, same coaches, same front office, same building, same stadium. What? Going to go differently this year. That's how it's going to go.

Open competition at the quarterback position has sent a message to the entire roster that nobody's safe. That's right. Nobody's safe. Yeah, you got to show up. Yeah, maybe try. Yeah, maybe give a little effort. Yeah, maybe portray as if you care at all that the team that you're on is trying to

win a game. I think that's going to ooze through the locker room because they announced it. Was it year three after a, you know, two years of injury-filled quarterback play that Joe Burrow put the team on his back and took on the Super Bowl ARC. Yeah that's right. I was year two. Whatever the case. Sometimes there's a lot of trends. Payton Maynard for all those receptions. That's right. They're pretty good. The legends of justin town what a couple weeks ago? A couple weeks ago Q&A last Monday. They reset the ore. Absolutely!

This is how professional football works. You're a fucking professional. This is your job, okay? You can lose this job. Hopefully sooner than later, everybody in the city's thinking that. You know, because you're the keepers of the jersey currently. Yeah.

Maybe wear some other ones. Is that really a widespread thing from what you gained at the combine, that like the basics, like showing up on time, being accountable to your teammates like that's a real problem like throughout the league? Not at the good places, not at the good places but at the shite organizations that is a real thing and it's because I think I don't know I'm not in the position and I don't know a lot of these guys and obviously I would be the same exact way if I was these dudes. You get a bunch of money, I'm smarter than you. I've done it right, okay, I'm a millionaire already. You get to the NFL, hey, you need to do this, this, and this. No, I don't, okay, this is how I do it. And also, don't like the way you're talking to me right now.

Okay, you keep doing that. I am, I'm not gonna come in here. You know, so I think there's a feel from some coaches in some front offices that you can't actually coach these people, mold these people into being accountable, driven adults in this entire thing because of everything they potentially got away with. And then all you need is just what a couple bad eggs in there, especially OGs in there and then it just goes like this and all of a sudden you lost it.

It's completely gone. So I don't think it's just the Colts, certainly we've heard a lot about the Colts, but there's other places as well and those are teams that suck and it's pretty apparent like if you want to win this is probably a piece of it that you're going to need nonetheless franchise tag today 4 p.m. AJ Hawk T Higgins franchise tag for the second straight time OSA down there in Dallas was franchise tagged he comes to terms so they could give that to somebody else though Technically did they tag him and then extend they didn't sign the tag did he sign the tag? Yeah, did he yeah, can they can they now say okay? You tag you were it but games on over now tag You were it but games on over now tag. You're it over here I do wonder that well I shafted in about five minutes or so, but there's a lot of eyes on what teams are gonna do and

So many question marks around this NFL. Yeah, it's all so many question Monday is gonna be awesome Monday free agency starts. Yeah, the amount of deals that are already done I know that are gonna be announced as know. That are going to be announced as soon as that clock strikes, time is going to be wonderful. So pumped. And with those announcements are going to come the other side releases, releases, releases.

This is happening. This is happening. Oh, this team got this person. Shit, we thought we had that person. Now desperation sinks in. We're going this person. And then there's a second wave where everything kind of calms down a little bit. And then the second wave hits and it's

Like ooh good signing there. Oh, that's good signing or they gonna wait till the draft to see who they get in the draft It's like there's a lot of magic about to take place, especially Whenever four o'clock hits today We're really gonna prep for people to be able to gear up for the money giving away a free agency on Monday Exciting time in the NFL second time the NBA as well. AJ, you know that Yeah, I've been watching more NBA basketball than second time in the NFL, second time in the NBA as well, AJ, you know that? Yeah, I've been watching more NBA basketball than I have in the past, no doubt.

Us as well, and I know we're in the minority, I don't think a lot of people are watching basketball. They had a big number though on Friday night. He's been watching, AJ. Was he being facetious? Yeah, who you been watching? No, I'm dead serious. I mean, I was on a plane flying home,

I watched some games that were on, we had live TV and the little screen in the back, yeah. Other than that, I've watched a little, I mean, I'm a big, I love I watched some games that were on. We had live TV and the little, the screen in the back, yeah. Other than that, I've watched a little, I mean, I'm a big, I love the Warriors. I've always loved staff and what they're doing. Obviously Jimmy's over there. So yeah, I watched more. Now the football season is over, obviously.

It's kind of just naturally happened. Most watched NBA doubleheader on ESPN this season. Came on Friday night, I do believe, 1.8 million viewers for the Cav Celtics, which who won that game? I believe the Cavs won this one. Okay, and then Clippers Lakers, the battle of LA, Nightcap, who won that game?

Luca did. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider for ESPN, friend of the program, Shams Sharanya. Yeah, Shams! Shams, okay, quickly here, because NBA talk is something we do, we enjoy, but we're not the experts, that's why we bring you in here.

Nico, this general manager for the Mavericks, it is being alleged by a lot of humans that have opinions and are on the internet that they're trying to tank this team so they can get them the hell out of Dallas. Well, it seems like all systems are working in that front. You get rid of your star, he turns out to be an absolute beast still. Lookie, lookie, the guy that took your team to the finals last year

can still play basketball well for the Lakers. They go to the number two in the West. Kyrie now, devastating ACL, which we will all obviously miss last night. Anthony Davis gets hurt in his first game. There's been picketing, protesting, and now mass exodus from these games from Mavericks fans that are die-hard fans. What is going on in Dallas and how do you think everybody around the NBA is viewing the current Maverick situation, Sean? Boys, I think what's going

on in Dallas is what was going on in the immediate aftermath of that trade that happened on February 1st is like what the like how did this happen and I think Mavs fans in particular they're still dealing with it and you know that conspiracy theory that you got you're talking about that they're taking so much that they're they're they're at war with their fans that they are doing everything possible to alienate their fans is because they want to move the team I've seen that conspiracy online to my knowledge Pat there is because they want to move the team. I've seen that conspiracy online. To my knowledge, Pat, there is zero truth to that. That's just not a real reality.

But the fact that that's even a conspiracy out there just lets you know how deeply extreme that trade was in the eyes of a lot of people on the league, literally everyone in Dallas. I mean, you think about the Mavs and their fan base. Luka Dantic, a generational player, 25 years old, just turned 26. He's someone, the 77 jersey is going to be all over Dallas forever. He was someone Mark Cuban said once, I would rather get a divorce than to trade Luka Dantic. I wanted to retire Luka Dantic's jersey.

And I know in talking to people on Luka Dantic over the last 72 hours, I was at that Lakers Clippers game on Sunday. He had no intention ever of leaving Dallas. He had just bought a new home in Dallas for a lofty price. He did not want to go anywhere. You think of a player coming from abroad, they're very committed, they're loyal and that's how he viewed himself with the Mavericks. It's like one team, one city forever and I think that's going to carry over to the Lakers. I think he's loving his time in LA. I think he's loving how the Lakers, you think about what the Lakers brand is,

it's like treating stars like stars. It's Hollywood. It's making the star players bigger than life and that's what we're gonna see with Luka Dacic but for the Mavericks, I mean this is just tough because Kyrie Irving was having an All-Star, he made his ninth NBA All-Star team. He was going for everything. We've been talking on this show, I remember when I used to come on here in 2020, 2021 and he was getting

absolutely crushed. You think about his decision not to take the COVID vaccine shot, you think about how his image started to go. In Brooklyn, he was reclaiming his spot the last couple of years as an upper echelon top player, the spot that he deserves. And he was on track to get a max contract this off season potentially.

He has a player option for 44 million dollars next season You look at from a stats perspective Pat 25 points a game five rebounds five assists He's the only player in the NBA this season averaging at least 20 points at least 50% three-point shooting and at least 90% from three and and for me 90% from three and and for me This was a devastating injury for him So that's at least 20 points 40% 3.90 percent from the foul line only player in the NBA averaging that fifth Fifth of his career second

Yeah, we got it. Yeah, he's having a great year 50 or 62 games. Got it. Got it. Got it but Pat what I will say is his leadership went beyond everything because you think about the deteriorated relationship between Luca Dacic and that organization, and a lot of ways Kyrie Irving was that in between. And the front office leaned on Kyrie Irving, even with their communication with Luca Dacic. And so that relationship had strained, they traded Luca.

And now, yeah, I mean, Anthony Davis has been out since his opener since the first game He played I think him his representatives. I think they're gonna huddle up. I think they're gonna have some very hard conversations It's not out of the realm of possibility. That's the last time we you know that one game was the last time We've seen Anthony Davis this season. Okay, so because Kyra injured now There's nothing that you know, he doesn't even oh my god this Nico guys gonna survive. He just has a lifetime job He's got multiple years left on his contract. I mean In the aftermath that trade I remember I came on here and I said we'll judge this trade in the next few months in the Next few years this trade is dependent on the Mavericks going far and and they've already been to the finals with Luca

Not just so what what else can you do besides get to the finals? It's winning a championship That's what Nico Harrison the Mavericks have set the standard of being judged on and Nico Harrison in his post trade press conference said We'll see if I'm right or not. We'll see Yeah, we will it's kind of all unfolding right now, you know, but he said he's playing along in the long term This is best for the maps which feeds the conspiracy what is the long term you know but you're saying there's no truth to it at all but anytime and he has a beer this guy this son of a bitch he drinks a beer whenever he does something

good and then every once in a while I see him he's he's burning hookah we traded all players that's that drink a lot of beer and why? Connor has the last question for you here Shams. Yeah, Sean me obviously Lakers number two seed in the West How about the one seed SGA? Is he gonna be the runaway MVP here? They showed a graphic earlier today about him having you know, another 50-point game unbelievable How do we feel about the Thunder and are they kind of the favorites coming out of the West even with everything Luca and the Lakers are doing? In my conversations with players with teams people on the league I think he is she goes out Xander is viewed as a Favorite or a front runner right now. I think you have to still look at Nikola. Yokic. Yeah, honestly the decouple

I don't think gets enough shine as well what he's's doing in Milwaukee, just leading that team, the numbers he's putting up, but Yocic's numbers speak for themselves. He's having a, I mean, honestly, he might be having a better season statistically than he's had the last few years that he has won MVP. That just goes to show what Shay Gills Alexander's impact has been the 50 point games leading this young Oklahoma city team to the number one seat again, runaway number one seed again, runaway number one seed and vying to be the best overall record in the NBA period with the Cavaliers. So, and he was runner up last year. So you think about doing it for back to back seasons.

This might be the year he gets his flowers. Okay. I hope so. You know, cause Greeny said this morning SGA no more. He's MVP. Oh, and he said last night was the Shea show. I mean, Greeny was talking in headlines about Oklahoma City's SGA. What a, uh, Shea Gilley's great name too. I mean, I hope he does it.

I hope the NBA continues to heat up. Uh, Zion Naruto tattoo. He's playing great ball. We're rolling. We need, we need, uh, we need some Winston to stay on the floor. We need him to continue Christ's a dog rolling the way he's done. He just had his first triple double last week ever last week So you know you're around a god triple double you gotta play basketball It's crazy what'll happen when the man is healthy power is healthy and he's able to play He puts up numbers We know his impact on winning. That's why it's so hard for the pelicans you think about it every year

It's like the rumors of trading is our Winston let him go Trade him trade them. They never let the guy play and he says once again I'm an employee of the pelicans when they let me play I'm on the court when they don't I'm on the sideline I'm always happy. I got a new tattoo. You guys check it out. You guys watch New Ruto or you guys like this? Pat, would you get a stomach tat like that?

Would you do that? Shams, I don't know if you've seen my body. I got no tats. Even though I love tats and have the thought of getting tats, I've sat down in the chair and they're like, need you for two and a half, three hours here to not move and it's going to hurt. And I'm like, all right right I'll get you next time my wife's got a beautiful sleeve you're what you're okay I'm done with it we

appreciate you man you're the best. Appreciate y'all. Thank you. I'll use Jim Ashom's name on you. Yeah. He did. Yeah, he did. He's on J-USS. He's a J guy. He does. I feel like it. The NBA is happening, Edge.

You know, you say you accidentally fell into it while on a plane or whatever. They're putting up bigger numbers. The NHL seem to be doing well. Sports having a time right now. Yeah. Sports having a time right now. I would like it if those Lakers did go on a long run, just because of what happened with Dallas.

They will. I have no interest in the West. Like, love the Nugs, cause Mr. Malone came on the program a couple of times and I enjoyed him in his shit talk. Phoenix Suns, I enjoy Ishbia in what he does. They brought Kevin Durant and I love Kevin Durant. That team sucks.

I have no idea how that even happens. I don't even know how many scores. 11? Yeah, they're terrible. They're already talking about him going into the off season and them working together to get a trade, to get Katie out of there. But the best thing for the NBA for a shoot,

and this is me as a Celtics fan, would be Celtics Lakers finals, because that's the biggest rivalry in the NBA. It's considered one of those pillar rivalries. So if they were to make that happen, not that it's rigged but if were if that were to happen that would be huge for the league. Yeah and I mean obviously good to have the big markets in it in sport but you know I love that the Pacers have a chance. I love that the Cavs have a chance like the sport needs that. Okay see. Okay see. Like I think the sport needs that. now Golden State being out with how exciting

Steph is to watch play basketball and now granted as the season goes I guess there's a chance they can still get in it and maybe even win the whole damn thing But it's like NBA has a chance here, you know first half of the season It was this is the worst league of all time. Nobody's gonna watch they got big problems You start thinking about the league. It's like yeah, I think they do You know nobody knows any of these guys No, nobody knows any of them outside of their diehard fan base Nobody has a clue about any of these guys except for the fact that we're being told by other NBA people ex NBA people

And NBA experts that these guys are soft So all we're hearing is that these guys are soft these guys are are taking nights off. These guys are getting paid more money than ever. They're opting out of games. It's like, they need to talk to Tyrese. And Tyrese is like, yeah, everybody kills us. Doesn't mean we just want to go talk to everybody. I mean, that's not how this goes. And not a majority of the NBA are opting out

of back to back night. Like, a lot of us are like, what's being painted as a league in a problem, it's like, the reality is not as such. I'm like, well, you guys need to start telling people like hey you need to start maybe maybe let's get to know some of these guys you know maybe let's learn some of these stories and it's like if they're able to do that and the games are gonna be good and you get the big names playing it's like the NBA has a chance to

save a year that a lot of people thought was a massive failure going into it yeah I mean the basketball gods are real you know like the Lakers are gonna make it to I mean, it's terrible what happened to Kyrie But this does kind of feel like the universe just saying like hey you guys screwed over Luca and pissed off all your fans in the process Now the Lakers are doing what they're doing like they're going to make to the finals I don't know if they're gonna win but they're gonna have a Deep run into the playoffs for sure because the basketball gods are real Joining us now ladies and gentlemen is not in the NBA is actually in the NFL and boy he's inside of it Yes, he is. He's senior of being inside of it deep

deep So deep that there isn't even like a beef to get to his spot whenever he's grabbing a coffee No, you know, everybody's like hey trying to trying to scratch and claw and fight to get there, literally through any Starbucks lobby that they possibly can. And this guy's just sitting up there going, boys, there's enough news to go around. And they're done that. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.

Yeah, Jeff. Yeah, Jeff. Hey. I walked through Starbucks with my head on a swivel. I understand how this works out. Okay, so you are a little bit worried about the chance that maybe somebody will come out and get you. Hey, I'd like a venti American, okay, boy espresso.

Oh. Hey, anyone behind me? Especially with the size of you insiders, this is just a fact of the matter. One of them much taller than the others. And it seems like he's the one that's kind of on the front. He's ready to. Yeah, so maybe don't do this here, Schefter.

You need to do this number first. With the elbow, with the ball. Right in the balls, right to the... You know what I mean? I got you. Careful of the arrow too, because he's metal. Yeah, so I'm sure I might get in the game as well. Schefter, great to see you. Hope you had a great combine. Hope you had a great combine.

Nice to be with you. Nice to be with you. It was great to see you in person. We love chit-chatting with you. You're moxie in, let's say you're spunk. Whenever we're with you in person is off the charts. So it was great seeing you, great catching up with you. Now you do and utilize the combine like everybody else does to gather information.

Franchise tag deadline, about two and a half hours from now. What should we be looking at and what is potentially the next domino to fall in the center fell off season from what you know from your conversations? Well, again, we've seen the tags go to T Higgins and Trey Smith in Kansas City. I don't know that we're gonna get another tag, which would mean this would be an incredibly uneventful tag period Osa Adegazua. I hope I pronounced that correctly got his deal done. There you go pat. You could practice with me right now for tomorrow Right. Okay, Osa Adegazua

breaking news Osa Adegazua will be on the show tomorrow at 12 15. Okay Thank you Schefter for being the connect there. Go ahead now with him being an $80 million deal. Congrats to him. So again, also got his deal done today. T is tagged in Cincinnati. Trey Smith is tagged in Kansas city. Look, I mean, we always could be blindsided by a tag that comes in at the last moment, but I don't see another tag getting done,

which means that we would have two tags in this period, which would be the lowest number. Hold on. Let me get the exact math here because I've been waiting for this till later on. This would be the lowest number of tags since 1994 when Eric Green and Henry Thomas were tagged. The next few was in 2006 with John Abraham, Nate Clements and Jeff Backus. Who could forget that?

86 and 94 and then 2025, the lightest franchise tag years. That is bananas to think about. Why is that, Shifty? Why do you think it is that way, Shifty? Well, I think AJ that number one teams are doing a better job at identifying their players in advance and signing them like Again, osa adegazoa could have been tagged today

But he and dallas were working on a deal and they're able to get the deal done so that they don't even have to Tag him. You could look around the league and I think that we've seen any number of these deals get done in recent years. Every time you see one of these big extensions, that takes one fewer guy off the market. And so I just think teams have seen their guys. They know who's good and who's not, and they're not letting the really good guys get to market to where they even have to tag them Obviously there's been teams that have left great players out the door and they've gone on to have great success But with the salary cap going up to I think guys are more likely to get deals done Feels like this is a good thing going forward less players franchise tagged is good in a player's mindset now Dallas Cowboys

Since they were gonna tag osu! since the deadline hasn't happened yet, they get a deal done. They could take that tag now and throw it at somebody else if they wanted to? Yeah, but I don't think there's anybody else they're going to tag. I'm just saying they could though if they wanted to because the deal was done before the deadline. Yeah, you'd have to find somebody else that was going to be tagged. And again, when this period opened, I think the guys that were really under scrutiny for tags were Trey Smith, were Sam Darnold, were T Higgins, and it sounds like Sam Darnold is not going to be tagged in Minnesota. And that, when we talk about some of the things that are going to happen, that becomes an interesting situation to see how that unfolds here moving forward.

Okay, so on that note, D-Bud has a question for you, Chef D. Yeah, you're saying Sam Donnell not getting tagged coming off career year in Minnesota, Brock Purdy, another good year under his belt. I know the 49ers have his rights for a few more years. But when these quarterbacks essentially get their next deal done, Brock Purdy and Sam Donnell, do you have any idea what the ballpark of those contracts will be? We had the $50 million club with quarterbacks.

Do you think one or both of those guys join that club? Well, I think Brock Purdy certainly could, but that's a question if they get that deal done. Again, you touched on it there, D, but the Niners, if they don't sign Brock Purdy this off season, and here's a team that really is up against it financially, if they don't sign him, and Brock Purdy obviously is going to want to get a deal done, and the Niners would want to get a deal done.

But the issue is he's scheduled to make $5.1 million this season. He then could be tagged after next season for $41 million. He could be tagged this season after that for $51 million. So if you don't get a deal done with Brock Purdy and you're the Niners, and again, this would not be what Brock Purdy would want, I would imagine. So not what his agent would want. He would play for $5 million this year, $41 million next year, $51 million the year after.

You're talking about $ plus million dollars over the next three years, which for most people would be incredible money, but not for a quarterback who's waiting to get paid. And so the Niners have a bit of a cap issue, cash issue, and so they can't put Rock Kurdy necessarily where he might be. They can go to a certain level, they'd wanna pay him, but it's not gonna be, I would imagine, quite as high as most people think.

Hey listen, we understand you're worthy of 60, 55 million dollars or something. We're just telling you with what we got going on, can't happen, bud. We're at 45. And by the way, by the way. We're at 45 million. Good money, by the way, we're at 45. Good money.

45 is good money. Great money. 45. No, no, no, no. By the way, let's just use 50. We'll use 50 as a nice round even number. Okay? $50 million.

$50 million. Brock, we want to pay you $50 million a year for the next three years. You can make $150 million. If you don't want, no problem. You can play it out and you go 5-1, 41, 51, 97 over three years. And then you'll have a chance to hit free agency in four years. You'll be a true free agent. And at that point, who knows what quarterbacks are being paid.

Maybe it's $100 million a year. Like, maybe. Yeah, but think again, 97 million over three years or 150 over three years I would take the 150 over three years immediately and also the sell to Brock is 50 million is a lot of money as well as money now you're gonna have the NFLPA and you're gonna have a lot of pressure on him not going for the biggest buck but if they're gonna build the team up around him maybe they're able to go which leads to another rumor coming out of San Francisco which seemingly never ends go ahead Connor yeah Chef G leads to another rumor coming out of San Francisco, which seemingly never ends.

Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Shafty, we know you're tied in with San Francisco and obviously, Debo got tricked. Why do you always say this? You always say this. We just know. We know. Look, we can read it everywhere. We don't just read your tweets, we break them down, okay?

We know- Hold on. I want to say to you, Connor, my job is to be tied into every team. That's my job Okay, so when you ask me a Steelers question or you ask me a Ravens question Yes, mean Eagles question or she please say we know you're tied in there, please say that We're not putting down anywhere. Thank you. We do know you are the San Francisco 49er Basically saying like you're an eagle not when we come to tied in, brother. Bingo.

You're an eagle scout, I mean, with the knots that you got going in there with how tied in you are. Every parent has their favorite kid and she has these favorite teams in that. We know that. We can say that and there's nothing wrong with that. That's just the reality of the situation. Okay, and last week, D-Bone got- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm getting simultaneous texts from the Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals right now. Okay. And last week, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm getting simultaneous texts from the Seahawks Rams and Cardinals right now. Okay. Pissed off that I'm showing favorite nation status to the 49 relationships in the NFC West brother. You're not doing that. We

know you would never say that they're your favorite. We are just saying that based on your, you know, Twitter, some of the things that you say at times, but last week, Debo, he gets traded obviously Immediately after that there's people on the internet calling him a fatso and that that was going on he tweeted like whoa I'm not a fatso and get ready for this new bod that's coming for the Washington Commies next year That'll be awesome now the rumors are circulating that Brandon I you might be getting moved and obviously John Lynch Mentioned, you know, we got to get younger and with these looming contracts, it makes sense they need to kind of get cheaper as well.

Is Iuke kind of available? Our team's calling for Brandon Iuke and is his injury from last year and the, you know, lots of money contract that he has currently, is that going to hurt his trade status going into next year? Well, again, I think that the 49ers in their particular financial situation are open to listening on just about anybody, just about anybody. Right. And so if there's a team out there, um, that is willing to take on the

Brandon IU contract with him coming off the torn ACL, I'm sure they would listen. Absolutely. But again, you've got to find a team that's willing to take on the player with the injury, with the contract. That's not a simple thing to do. Look, if there's no knee injury, it's a simple deal. But because there's a knee injury, because he may miss the first half of next season, and there are questions about when he'll get back next year. There are a whole host of pending issues, but the Niners, again, for

them to play in the free agency sandbox, they're going to have to find ways to clear out salary, whether that's through Brandon Ayu or Jordan Mason or any other player that they don't bring back or let go they have to find ways to get money to help feel the kind of roster that they want so if an offer comes in on Brandon Iook and there's a team out there that's willing to take on that particular situation I'm sure they would be open to listening to it. Okay so with this comes the Brock Party deal having to pay your quarterback you can't pay everybody else it's kind of the game got a young quarterback. You can pay everybody else get a quarterback He gets paid you got to figure it out. How he was able to

Debunk this system same with the Chiefs and Brett Veats But normally that's how it goes in a quarterback world unless you get some of these veteran quarterbacks It may be cheaper price AJ has a question for you chef tea Yeah chef tea Who do you say like when you say the first domino to fall, when you think of all these quarterbacks that may be changing teams, some of these guys, Sam Darnold, Dan Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Russ Wilson, all these people, who do you think could possibly be the first domino to fall here

and sign with a team? And what could a deal possibly look like, say, for Sam Darnold? Well, in my mind, the place that I'm watching next, there are two places. It would be Minnesota and Sam Darnold because Sam Darnold cannot sign with another team until next week. Minnesota will have interest in trying to work out a deal before he becomes a free agent. And so they are open to bringing him back. The question is, can the two sides figure out a deal that's worthwhile?

The other place to watch this week would be the Pittsburgh Steelers because they currently do not have a quarterback under contract. It's tough to go into free agency, to go add to your offense when you have no idea who's playing quarterback. And that's why I think they're going to spend this week working on getting a deal done with either Justin Fields or Russell Wilson. I would imagine Justin Fields is first up in the pecking order. We'll see if they can get something worked out there.

If not, it's easy to pivot on to Russell Wilson and we'll see how this works out. But I would think Pittsburgh is determined to try to get one of these quarterback deals done in the coming days so that it has some clarity going into free agency. And that doesn't mean they couldn't add another quarterback at some point in time. But I think the idea would be to provide some stability now so that at least they could go into free agency with a little bit more clarity than they currently have. Oh mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law. They don't have a quarterback. They got a lot more of the fear than the long arm of the law, brother.

Is that the most important position in all of sports Yep Is that the one that matters the most? No quarterbacks on the roster hasn't had a losing season in a long time Maybe they'll go to a wide receiver and have him play quarterback. You broke some news right before you came on the program Go ahead tone. Yes after your dialed in with the NFL So I wanted to ask you you just broke the news that Devante Adams was released officially We knew we had we figured it was coming Ponte Adams was released officially. We knew we had, we figured it was coming. Is there, I was looking at the free agent list

as far as wide receivers go and you know, it's Chris Godwin, Amari Cooper, Steph Diggs, D Hop. Does that make him the number one wide receiver on the free agent market? Is there any early favorites on who could potentially go after him? Well, it all depends on what you're looking for. Look, I think we've seen right now T Higgins be deprived of the true unrestricted free agency

that he wants. And if there's a team out there that wants T Higgins, they're going to have to pay T Higgins and then compensate the Bengals. And that's if the Bengals are willing to trade him, which we do not know for sure if that is or isn't the case. So now you look at the other wide receivers. Chris Godwin is coming off his own knee injury, been an unbelievable player, unbelievable person, the kind of guy you want on your team. Devante Adams is older, still a highly productive player. I think there's just a group of wide receivers.

I don't know that I'm placing one above the other. I think it just depends on the team, how they value each player, but nobody was gonna trade for Devontae Adams contract. When we go back to Debo Samuel, last week being traded to Washington, he was due $17.5 million. And really the Niners didn't get a lot of interest. They spoke to Houston, they spoke to Denver,

but in the end, the only team that was really willing to move at that point in time on Debo was the commanders because the salary at 17 and a half. Well, Devante was due double that 39 or something So that you weren't gonna find you were never gonna find a trade partner for Devante Adams He was never realistic and that's why the Jets have essentially granted him his release He now hits the open market and becomes one of the top free agent wide receivers out there. Where does he fit? I think, look, he's been through it the last couple of years.

He's played in Vegas, didn't have a quarterback. He played in New York, they struggled and lost. Without having spoken to Devante about this, I'm going to guess he wants to play for a winner. He's going to want to play where he's utilized where they depend on him and where he's got a chance to win games He's got a chance this guy's going to the chiefs. Oh, no. Oh, no, I can see you Said that I didn't say that. I just think that he's going to fields

No, well there there there are there a lot of play but I mean we can go over any number Yeah How about Philly Oh Then they say something about him and Josh McDaniel's Yeah, they have a good rapport in New England, but if we're talking winners, you know, that wouldn't be like I got it You just said that not me. How many guys do unless you're to be like, got it. You just said that not me. How many games you went last year? No, no. Hey, listen, I agree.

But again, well, hold on. But New England and I don't know this, but New England might be willing to pay him more than those other teams. New England's got over a hundred million in cap space. So now do you want to make more in New England if the Patriots are interested or do you want to take less and go to a more certifiable? These are the decisions that every player is going through. These are the decisions that every team is going through. And so you can't just apply a simple formula to this. These are complicated, nuanced, layered decisions. Humans, yeah.

Humans are making decisions about their lives. Happiness, you know, are you choosing to check over the incredible opportunity? And if you choose to check over the opportunity in like a year from now, are you going to check over the incredible opportunity and if you choose to check over the Opportunity and like a year from now, are you gonna regret doing that and maybe say I'm out of here Get me out of here. I can't be doing this I'm done with irrelevant football games that happened out of Miami Obviously with Tyree kill as soon as he signs with Miami for the massive check and leaving the Chiefs We all say, okay, he's going to take the bag

But then you don't win a couple years in a row and it's like I hate this this is not what life is supposed to be like so there's a lot of decisions that have to be Made we would all like to see Devontae back in prime time football I think we would all agree a lot of people are saying he and Aaron might be a tandem I don't know if that's true. I mean especially if Devontae is able to get some payment. You talk about New England Opportunity in compensation that what they have up there. That's what they got. And to your point, there was a report about McDaniels and that, you know, Devontae was very successful in his offense. And I'm sure Devontae sees what we all see. You know, Drake Mays got a lot of Aaron Rodgers. If this goes how anything has gone over the last like five years, Devontae Adams going to the K and C Chiefs. And that

is going to be a wild situation when it takes place But no matter where he goes, we can't wait to see him playing ball again. Speaking of playing ball again Well miles can never be back to Cleveland ties a question for you. Yes, Shetty what's going on there most recently? We've heard that he's basically said hey listen, I'm not negotiating at all. I do not want to be a Cleveland Brown Did you hear anything at the combine or otherwise that suggests possible trade partners? We know that the Lions kind of checked him at the deadline last year. He wants to go to a contender. Are there any teams that are popping up or are we any closer to Miles Garrett potentially getting moved?

This was the text I got last week. Okay. Miles is not open to discussing a contract extension with Cleveland. He, this has nothing contract extension with Cleveland. This has nothing to do with money. He wants to go win and he wants to go to a place he feels he has a shot at doing that immediately. Now, the Browns feel just as strongly that they're not trading Miles Garrett. So somebody here is going to have to give or we're gonna have to see how this unfolds. I've always felt like this was a question of how how dug in Miles Garrett is gonna be because if he's dug in and he refuses to

report back there and he makes it messy, then eventually, eventually he's going to get what he wants. But the process of getting there is going to be very tense and very complicated and very ugly. So I don't know how far he's willing to push it. It's one thing to say he's not willing to talk about an extension with Cleveland. He wants to go to a place that wins. It's March 4th

You can say that is he still saying the same thing on August 4th If and when nothing's happened and I don't have the answer to that. Nobody does right now so again, all you know is that the Browns have been unwilling to budge the situation with miles is he right now is not interested in talking about an extension. And I know we've got these questions and speculation about where Miles Garrett's going to wind up. And that'll be interesting if Cleveland moves off its stance. But you know, I know Philly's been floated out there.

I've had Eagles fans like, are we trading for Miles Garrett? Like, there are no absolutes at this time of the year. Anything is always possible. But I don't know how Philadelphia, who is going to have to pay Cam Juergens and Jordan Davis from the class of 2022 and Jalen Carter and Nolan Swift from the class of 2023 and Queen Anne Mitchell and Cooper DeGene from the class of 24 and draft and re-sign some of its own players like they're gonna want to bring back Zach

Bond. How are they finding the money not to mention the compensation to go out and get Miles Garrett like is that real? Yeah. I mean I guess things always can happen. How is it dog? How he has this ability? He is. How he is he's an absolute dog. Now, granted, Andrew Berry is obviously gonna be the one who's gonna have to be on the other side of that conversation and maybe has them

and everything like that. He's seemingly not moving, but as you've noted, that doesn't mean anything, especially with the history in the NFL. Miles Garrett getting out of that Vic Fangy over defense over there with all the changes that they make. I couldn't even fathom if Howie's able to reload like that. But to the victors go the spoils and the downfalls.

Gonna have to pay everybody. Excited to see how they navigate it. Shefty, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you so much for taking the time on this glorious franchise tag deadline Tuesday. Gentlemen, it was always a pleasure. Have a great day and enjoy Osa Odegazua tomorrow. Thank you for making that happen for us ladies and gentlemen Adam Schefter.

So fresh out of a 80 million dollar extension Osa Odegazua will be joining us tomorrow at 12 15. Can't wait to get his thoughts because we to be clear did not know a lot about him. No. You know I think I remember his name during games whenever he'd make a big time play, but it was never the talking point of the Dallas Cowboys. He just got broken off. Big time deal, good for him.

D-Tackle getting that type of money, good news for him. Yeah, a lot of those guys do the dirty work. You don't really know them. They don't really make the headlines. The guy, the edge guys like Michael Parsons, obviously Trevon Diggs, even overshowing when he was doing that linebacker last year. But this is the guy that does the dirty work.

Glad he got his money. I am certainly in agreement with that. Rich Eisen broke some rumors that he had heard from the combine. He said, these are not facts. These are just things that I have heard around the combine. Rich Eisen talks to everybody at the combine. And there's a lot of convos at the combine. Now what the convo is at the combine doesn't necessarily mean what it's going to be whenever

a free agency comes. It doesn't necessarily mean it's's gonna be Whenever free agency comes doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna be what draft is But he's getting a chance to hear from a lot of people what is currently happening not necessarily the endgame But what is currently happening this is what he has to say about the Giants I heard the Giants and Raiders interest in Matthew Stafford was quite real and it was hairy at at certain junctures last week. And I heard the Giants hit the number and they hit the number for Stafford. And they not only hit the number for Stafford,

I heard this again from multiple people, I heard they hit the number for Stafford and they hit the trade comp too. They were in. And I heard the Raiders were way in too on Stafford and Stafford had a real at the Giants even hot You know, they hired his brother-in-law Chad Hall on the coaching staff and so they

Really made a run so Giants hit the trade comp they hit it hit the number I heard they which was reported 90 to 100 million guaranteed whatever whatever it whatever it was I don't know what it was I heard they hit it. Why didn't the deal get done? Because I think at the end of the day the Stafford's like looking at all Sunsetting over the Pacific Ocean and it's Well, you know when it all comes down to it. It is the best spot for him

yeah, so he said that the Giants were all in and for him. Yeah so he said that the Giants were all in and meeting the trade comp, meeting the number which allegedly potentially nine figures in this entire thing at this stage of Matthew Stafford's career. Rappaport during the combine came out and said that he took a lot less money to stay with the Rams. McVeigh yesterday said whenever this comes out it'll see how incredibly selfless this was of Matthew Stafford with the deal. So I think him being able to kind of hear the options and the opportunities and where he would have to go to get these things was certainly a good thing that

the Rams let him do. That's a good football. God's will bless the Rams. I think with that, but inevitably in the end Matthew Stafford McVeigh talk on Friday morning, I assume Les Sneeg gets in there as well. They lay out the plan going forward, maybe air some grievances, maybe air some grievances on how things have gone. And they get to a point where Matthew Stafford is returning. In the middle of that, you decided to interrupt. And you said that these teams suck.

Which is potentially why Matthew Stafford didn't win. I think that is also a massive piece of it. Yeah, I mean, yeah. You're going to a quarterback at his age, what he's already accomplished. You're going to different franchises that you would think are a little further away from winning than you are in LA. A lot of us expect that LA to win three, four games

this past season. What they had, they obviously knew what they had. We saw Sean McVay yesterday and just talking to him for however long that was, you can sell the electricity and what he brings to that building day in and day out. And I feel like this is right. This is only right. This is the right place for Matt Stafford to finish his career had a long loyal run in Detroit

And I think this is the right place to go and go and finish it However, he sees fit still a team that can be right there in it We saw how dominant that Philadelphia Eagles run was last year, but this was a team that was a few plays away So, um, it's the right place. I think for non to finish his career Yeah, and you mentioned and you know when it comes out as contract, how generous he's going to look and how awesome it is. Could you imagine Devante going over there? We're talking about teams that you could possibly play for and, you know,

have maybe go play a little cheaper. The West coast is going to be a real part of Devante's decision-making process because of his family. That was the whole thing with the Raiders when he, you know, fan of the Raiders growing up and his family's out there. They can go see his games like the Rams him with McVeigh and Pukin Nakula and Kieron Williams you talk about just winning immediately that would be incredible. Him going into a McVeigh offense would be fun to watch. There's another West Coast team that needs a wide out too. Go on. Same exact

city I was because I when I saw that rap report about West Coast I immediately pulled it up and Chargers and Rams, both need wide receivers. They're both on the West Coast. They both can win, especially with great quarterbacks. Those are places Devontae would probably love. Yeah, especially, I mean, maybe the Chargers go this year. Maybe. Did you watch Harbaugh and Hortiz on the program?

Yes. You loved the Chargers since the day they got Justin Herbert. What did you learn from that conversation? What I learned is they got a culture already in place and they're gonna go. Yeah, I learn from that conversation? What I learned is they got a culture already in place and they're going to go. Yeah, I love the, and obviously we only get to see bits and pieces, but even the relationship dynamic

between those two, like here, I forgot who asked about Khalil Mack. Yep. It's like, hey, pay him, pay the man, pay this guy. So you can, like, he's, even the guys that aren't necessarily under contract right now, you can tell what those guys mean to that culture. We always say culture, culture, culture. Jim Harbaugh is shown he's a culture guy. He can build winners. You know the

way he builds them. He's going to build his team through the draft, through the free agents. He's going to bring the right guys in. We've been around the weight. We met everybody from the weight room, from the staff. It's just the vibes in that building. You feel like that's an organization going in the right direction. And you always have to have a guy at quarterback. And I think they have the guy with Herbert. How about the Rams to one play away from beating the Philadelphia Eagles you beat the hell out everybody it's like they're on the cusp of potentially going there's a lot of teams that are close I think whenever we look back maybe we forget about

because they didn't play in the playoffs or they didn't play late so we forget all about it's the NBA playoff effect if you're not in the NBA playoffs nobody knows you even had a season I mean because it's so long you're in you're in there. It's happening with college ball too, for me. If you didn't, like Jackson Dart, we hadn't seen him play football in forever. We saw a lot of people play football. Then you watch these highlights, you're like, dude's a dog. Dude's an absolute dog. You kind of forget about him. Same thing in the NFL with some of these teams. I think we just rule everybody out as that team stunk, they didn't make the playoffs. And it's like, there's a lot of organizations that are sitting there

like we were fucking four plays away from like really making it. We're playing every year. Every year that's the case where there's so many, not so many, but there's a handful of teams that lost so many one-score games or three or six point losses where yeah for whatever reason they just couldn't find a way to get over the hump there so I don't know every year why I'm on the one shot right now if that's actually what's going out But I think there's a lot of teams like that. Hey, let's get self-awareness. These guys producing television while they're chit-chatting about a situation um

Yet it's an interesting time right now for our program, you know, like at this exact moment right now Just sitting and waiting on a text message we got we got if I can put that eyeball emoji out I'll put that eyeball emoji out right hey hey something's coming holy shit anytime you see me put the eyeball emoji out it's me saying I know what's about to come out and I've decided not to dive into the insider world and let everybody know come on this one is March 4th eyes you could I eyes emoji and we are gonna be the ones I think that are going to let the the cat out of the bag. I do believe on a rather large, rather large piece of

news. Be careful getting into this world now. I know. You know what? Everybody fucking hates me already. So dance with the dragon. Yeah. I don't want to get into the insider world because you piss people off and it's like I already have Enough people saying terrible things about me. So forget it. Maybe I do get any insider world. Good luck Starbucks stare down guys Yeah, there might be a new pecking order in this entire game But it is it is certainly an honor to potentially do that type of thing got to earn up a lot of trust with people I think in this particular case we have and Now we just sit and wait for a text.

Big fish? Yeah, this is a big piece of nip. Maybe just do it. This is a big... What position? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We've had onto this for a little bit now.

So, you know, it's been squeaky clean. What was that thing you wanted to talk about, Tone, in the ball cap? It was something about, there's something that happened about something in the NFL world. Remember it something about something that happened about something World remember it was a big deal on this franchise tag day with those free agents. Yeah, it was it was a big deal I was just talking about the free agents in general how great this class is. There's a ton of D backs We talked about earlier. Mm-hmm. That's a huge part of this one and it's kind of like there's not a lot of I mean

There's D backs obviously in the draft, but it's not a deep D backs one So they're free agency D backs could be heavy, especially, you know, the same with the wide receivers, but probably not for like running backs. Cause those are D tackles. Cause those are heavy in the draft, but there's a lot, still a lot of huge names out there. And now that Devante is on that, like I chipped, he said that there was tears for wide receivers, but like when I look at the wide receivers Godwin's coming off an injury So maybe yeah him one a Stefan digs coming off an injury Mark Cooper, you know coming off of a bit long in the tooth

Yeah, but long with two something weird happened there in Buffalo where he didn't get a ton of production But Devante is definitely I think in my eyes one a as far as wide receiver free agency Healthy digs healthy motivated Stefan digs. He motivated us to find digs. Obviously out there playing for some money. And then not even, Hollywood Brown, I think he brings a level of explosive. Off an injury too. To an offense for sure.

Yeah, he got healthy. Later on in Mill Williams on the other side of the ball and in trenches, these guys just dominate the Super Bowl. So he played his best ball at the right time. It's a magical time around the NFL. And obviously we'll continue to chat about it on ESPN plus, Disney plus, YouTube and TikTok live. There's yeah, something's cooking right now.

And it'll certainly be coming in a few moments. I believe this clock is completely off. Shout out to Bruce Brown. We'll be back tomorrow here on ESPN. We'll see you then. I think we're actually on ESPN 2 right now. Yeah, what were we talking about today? Spring training baseball. Mets are playing ball. I think it's all week. When's opening day? I think Friday is ESPN news. I think Friday is ESPN news. Oh really? Yeah. I think it's a y'all with diner. But with being said it doesn't matter because the digital audience is only one of it

That matters don't say and don't try that Josh paint my dude point out the obvious You know the things that I've been wanting to say for years Josh paid is saying so we appreciate you brother Yeah, we do appreciate you. It's amazing how that works though, isn't it Josh? These TV people say yeah, the internet people are a bunch of hack, blah, blah, blah. And then they go to the internet and, goodbye! You vanished! Poof! Gone!

And then the other thing, digital people add into that, it seems to go, okay, why is that? I wonder why that is. Which one's more difficult? Well, the people that are on digital, they have to find you. They have to get to you, which is why we're so damn thankful for all of you. Because you have to open an app, or you have to search into an app,

you have to go to a platform, you have to dive in to get to us. And to be honest, it never made sense to any of us why you guys do that for us. We understand we're the dumbest show of all time, but the fact that you do it, we're incredibly thankful for.

And this big night out that's happening relatively soon, with a date being announced here in a few days and then ticket sales to be following in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania it's a massive give back to as a thank you to everybody you know and I think it's gonna be a magical evening. I think it's gonna be a magical night in Pittsburgh and AJ I will give away one of surprises because there is huge surprises throughout the night. Okay, that and friends thing is certain. We're exploring the space of friends. Okay, we are exploring the space of and friends.

AJ Hawk will be a part of the show. Wow. Wow. Let's go. Thank you, AJ. What about magician Michael Malone? We will not be having a guy that ate nails on this stage. Come on.

It's tough to book. And also our people have already seen him. Our people have already seen that trick. We don't need, you know, I want this to be exciting. So AJ will be a part of the program. Consider that a little. And guess who else? Who? Terry State Baller. D-Bunch! Okay. Can't wait. D-Bunch gonna beat her. It's gonna be a big one. It is not gonna be our program. Just as a heads up. It is not. It's not a live show. It's not this show.

It will be a live show. Correct. But it's not this show. Live show. Humans from this show, on show. But not this show. It's a show that's never been done before. The more I've looked into it.

Ever. I don't think so. Ever. I don't think so. You heard about this morning. You heard about it this morning. You heard some shit. Like Nitro Circus maybe? Like that?

Sure. I mean maybe we'll get a dirt bike in there doing a backflip on my hearth finch or maybe get a padded ramp as a chance. D-Bud heard it for the first time this morning. I believe you heard the entirety of the show this morning for the first time. And your thoughts is never been done before. Never been done. Not even close.

Unprecedented. Should be pretty good though. Yeah.cedented. Should be pretty good though. Yeah. Yeah. Should be pretty electrifying. Happy it's happening in Pittsburgh, shot to the Yensers, and for the surrounding area. Ah, geez Louise.

Kicking the tires a bit. Yeah. Is this really our confirmation? Yeah, buddy. That's how it always goes. Yeah, buddy, just go, oh yeah. Oh. If you'd have made that, you would have had to just.

Did you say it? Fire, fire from the hip. No, cause you gotta get, just go. Oh, yeah. Oh You made that you had to just say fire fire from the hip No, cuz you gotta get you know Whenever this comes everybody's gonna be like it makes sense that they're sitting here instead of going to the bathroom Which he clearly has to piss look at him moving around right now now I certainly do I've been hydrating the shit out of myself I think you know I'm trying to get healthier as I continue to grow on that was one of the conversations I have with myself during the break. I said listen got a daughter dude. Let's live bingo. Let's survive you are healthy though Not as much as I could be you know what you got to carry a tone You got to carry the metal jug around like tone was good

Won't do that, but I do respect those who do because they're they care more than anybody else with that being said Shout out to one half a hammer dad ball cap boys AP town no cowboy hat Wow Good ride Tony walked into hammer downtown as I do every single day to grab my cowboy hat And I looked at and I said I don't think you deserve to wear that today So I didn't why what happened to you. Did you do something? Did you I just didn't feel it? What did you do buddy? What was the guilt that you were feeling about it? I don't feel guilty It's not something I am capable of good. That's good. Yeah, so it has nothing to do I think it's cuz I probably I don't think I've been watching

I haven't watched a cowboy show or movie in a long time, so I just didn't feel it in my bones. If you can feel it. Yeah, you can wear it. Yeah, Chase, yeah, for sure. He decided to chase the ball cap today. But it's winter, so I haven't listened to country music in a while either, so it's just, you know, it's kind of... Lettuce is phenomenal these days.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When are we gonna finally just do no cap? One half of the hammer, die! No cap, boys. When is that gonna happen? Probably soon. Soon. Keep capping. I'm getting older. You know, I looked at my homes on the hardwood the other day and I said he cut his hair, you know. What am I doing? I'm not, it's not Halloween. I'm parading around in a cowboy hat all the time. Oh no.

You're starting to... Wait, wait. We knew this time was inevitable. Halloween. You're a cowboy. We knew that this was gonna come. This has been since COVID, brother. It's been like four or five years since I've been on a ranch. I've been busy. I haven't done light ranching in a couple of years at least. Yeah, maybe 30. What? What? 35 years. So you're no longer a cowboy? Is that what you're? No, I am. I am. I am. It's not. It's not. Is it dead? It's felt like today. Massacre week? Just a day to day. Yeah. Cowboy tone is dead, brother. Absolutely. I know what he asked. And it is a necessity.

No. Dead. In this particular case, it is the hammer die. Cowboys will ride no more. Wow. Just the hammer down boysboys will ride no more. Wow. Just the hammer down boy. I didn't know this was gonna happen today. Mom in the silence. You got COVID. You went into your COVID cave in between bouts of shaking and trembles and being incredibly hot and being incredibly

cold and being wildly sick. Something that none of us has ever really seen before in 15 minute intervals, seemingly. Yeah, shiting your pants. Perfectly sketchy. I didn't have that one. Man. You had to isolate yourself from your entire family. And while you were awake, you said, fuck it,

I'm gonna dive through this sports book more than I've ever done before. Coming out of there, you became the best gambler you have ever been. Thank you. So the COVID cowboy became a superstar gambler, which actually started Hammer every single day. Now, although Hammer will still ride,

the Cowboys seemingly no more. What an arrow, what a run. It was one of the good things that came from COVID. Yeah. And now it's dead. God bless the cowboy. Amen. I'm bummed out.

Me too. I'm bummed out. Hey Bill. Baylor McComas did just come in and take a photo of the moment of silence for the cowboy hat. The capture moment. Yeah, it's a big moment. It's just a big and take a photo of the moment of silence for the cowboy hat. Had to capture a moment. Yeah, this is a big moment. It's just a big moment in the history of our program. Huge.

I'm happy that Bill got that. Thank you, Bill. That's what AJ was saying. Your head popped into the bottom half of the, and then your traps. He's working out with his bodybuilders. Yeah, so jacked. So we went to the bathroom and came back with this. Still just sitting here staring. Not even a typing thing. Not even a typing thing. Not even a typing thing.

Probably still can. These things tend to... Linger. Yeah. And they talk. I'm gonna say, hey, hey, the fuck, I'm about to piss my pants. Can we piss?

Oh, in that case, yes, you can confirm. Hey. I've been on three phone calls today during the show. I don't think a lot of people understand. That's big news. That's when you know. Yeah. Walk away.

Boys need to ask an extendo question here. Maybe a follow up in this entire thing. I'm on a damn... I think we're close. Yeah, I heard that before. Typing bubbles? I think we're close. Yeah, I heard that before. Tell me bubbles. Uh, actual message saying soon. And hold the line.

I mean, soon is relative. Soon means very soon. 10 minutes is like you said, can I go pee? Fogel? What? He's getting out. He's getting out. Yeah, you would know.

That's what you think we're holding up the show for? That's your problem. I didn't know. You should have. That's something you should have done as not something you would hold up a show for. Well, that being said, I do think he's getting out at some point. Something else is happening. I thought he was getting fired squad in South Carolina. Yeah, South Carolina is bringing back a death by firing squad for the death penalty. For the details? For the 15 15 years three guys are going in they're gonna have rifles about 15 feet away and they're all gonna have live ammunition only three yeah which is disappointing no well that's what they used to do but they're saying now we're

not doing that anymore so they're all gonna give the guy you know and now they don't know whose bullet did the killing so nobody has any guilt Exactly. Oh my god, probably all led said then they also have a Doctor on staff to come in and confirm. Yep. He's dead. Okay, we take a break. We'll be back in about five with some breaking news Okay, okay big breaking news I Didn't know that was coming back in 2025. Me neither I didn't know that was coming back in 2025. Me neither.

Pots got off. They're not missed. Dude strapped in 10 feet away. You better not miss. Did you see, I think I saw something where a guy got scared a bit and he didn't die. Leithlin Jack. Oh yeah. That happens a lot.

For like 40 minutes or something. Yeah. No. Gerard. Didn't take. Went back into death row and they were like, do I get to go now? That was kinda, that was kinda how it,

that's kinda good and they go, nah, three more months. We're gonna do it again. Don't worry, we're gonna hire someone to slit your throat tonight and go to the mess hall. Don't worry. Yeah, don't worry. Death Row doesn't have a mess hall, I don't believe. See you tomorrow. Sports!

Awesome, we're lucky to cover them. That's A.J. Hawk. The Toxic Table's here at Boston Conor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, die! Ball Cat Boys, A.P. Tone is here. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. You look fantastic, D. Butch. All right, it is a great Tuesday, because obviously the franchise tag deadline

is in an hour and 49 minutes. Will any other teams put the franchise tags on their players? We shall wait and see. What we do know is our sources have told us that the Super Bowl champion, Philadelphia Eagles, have signed Saquon Barkley to a two-year extension averaging over 20 million per year 36 million guaranteed

at signing with 15 million more available in incentives obviously nobody had this in their bingo cards nobody had a clue if Saquon Barkley was gonna sign an extension they thought he took less money to go to Philadelphia and that thing was always settled. Instead, Howey and money team Ed, who represents Saquon Barkley, decided to get together, do what was right for the most electrifying, the most dominant, the most powerful player in the NFL this year behind a great offensive line, a historic run to a Super Bowl champion, and add two more years at money that has never been seen before at the running back position. Now I have more information on this entire thing.

Regarding an extension for running back, one year in on a three plus year free agency deal, never been done before. Not even in the second league year has it happened for a running back. This is happening in the second league year has it happened for a running back. This is happening in the same league year. Howie wanted to make it right for Saquon for everything he did for the Philadelphia Eagles team. This is the largest fully guarantee for a running back in NFL history. It's the highest two-year cash for a running back in NFL history. It's the highest three-year cash for running back in NFL history. Max average per year possible if all the incentives are hit 25.85

million per year Congratulations to Saquon Barkley and Philadelphia Eagles for getting a historic Legendary one-of-one deal done for a one-of-one running back who put the team on his back dough. What a deal, what a time, what a run by Saquon. From whenever we saw in Hard Knocks off season, Joe Shane saying, I don't think we'll be able to pay that amount of money with how much we're paying our quarterback and everything like that. The Eagles have a $50 plus million quarterback on the roster and

now a 20 million plus running back on the roster while having AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, the best offensive line in football and a tight-end Goddard who's tougher than you are. Howie has continued to somehow do these magic tricks to stack a roster on the defensive side. They're gonna have to make some plays, they're gonna have to add some people. Bradbury gone, Darius Slay gone, Zach Bond potential free agent. What will they do there? We assume they'll figure it out because that's what they've done. Nick Sirianni, Big Dom, Howie, and the entire squad over there.

Bradley Cooper included, Keith Saquon Barkley and his powerful football team together for at least another two years on top of the deal they signed. Congrats to all parties. AJ, it's a big deal, And I think it's a good olive branch from the Philadelphia Eagles to reward a player that has done so many amazing things for them

in such a short time. Yeah, I mean, credit to the Eagles in getting this done. 36 million guaranteed at signing. That's gigantic, especially for the running back position. And yeah, the fact that they did this when they absolutely did not need to, they didn't have to. This is like a, in good faith, like, hey, you, you paid us back. And it's so much by the trade that we made to bring you in here and didn't have to this is like a in good faith like hey you you

paid us back in it's so much by the trade that we made to bring you in here and what you brought to this team in this city I think this is awesome I we don't see this happen very often like you said Sequon is 101 this to kind of deal does very like never happens actually in this kind of setting so yeah this is awesome man like why I guess why not if you have the cap space and you can make it work why wouldn't you do this? This energizes your whole team. And remember, Saquon took less money to get to the Philadelphia Eagles

than he could have got in numerous other places because of how much he appreciated the culture, the area, and the offensive line. Being able to keep him around, obviously, how he knew was like, this is good, but also keeping him happy. Like, hey, let's let our star know that we love him here and let's reward him for the year that they had,

and we won a Super Bowl with this guy. Let's run it back D, but I love this move This is awesome. This is great how he kind of always catches us by surprise Nobody expected us to have you said first time ever going to rear up after the first year and he took he took less initially It's kind of like everything you've seen say Kwan do I guess even in front of the camera? We don't see it all but like the game where he didn't go back in to finish his single game rushing record or whatever it was. The single season rushing record set out that last game, didn't chase that, but got the ultimate goal, went and got the Super Bowl. And now this is the team and the organization not doing, you know, good by their player, doing great by him.

Something we've never seen before coming off as a player of the the year performance where he could have very well been the MVP I love to see this not only for Saquon and the Eagles but for that running back position we've been talking about the position coming back and once you get that money you reset that market with Saquon not a bunch of Saquon's out there obviously but you reset that market so you know these big workhorses to start getting their money again yeah it's awesome for some of the younger guys and it it didn't change the running back position, but it feels like it almost like redefined what you need to have. Like you need to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield.

You obviously need to be able to take the ball 60 plus yards when you have that space in their own line. It is the best in the league, so it's a huge credit to them too. But if you're Jameer Gibbs, if you're B. John Robinson, if you're even like a Kyron Williams for the Rams, you know, at least now you kind of know like, okay, I, there is this new market available for us and those older guys that kind of stinks. And it feels like even for like Derek Henry, you would think maybe Derek Henry could get a new, new deal from this, but even him, he doesn't do what Saquon does when it comes

to, you know, the effectiveness in the past game and stuff. They use Justice Hill a little more often than you know any of the other running backs like the Eagles get, but it's great for the running back position because that's been a huge storyline the last few years. How many mill do you think they added on for the jump over backwards thing he did? Oh that was at least 30. Yeah at least three million. They're probably yeah they're probably at like 17 million a year and they're were like, but the- Check this. You know, the, there it is. You see it? He did that.

So let's make sure we reward that. And they were like, you're right. That's at least three a year. And then with the incentives up to 25, potentially per year, what a deal. Shout out to Money Team Head. Yeah. Hey, shout out to the head getting that deal done.

I mean, that is a wonderful job, especially, you know, you talk about everything. The Eagles did not have to do this at all. At all. Nobody would have really been able to grandstand about it either like hey you got to take care of Saquon. You got to take two years left on this entire deal. Like he just got there like they had massive success. Nobody would have been petitioning against the Eagles for not re-signing or giving Sequon Barkley more money. Like if Sequon would have came out, which he allegedly would never do with the human that Sequon is, the way he operates in a way he's beloved in that locker room. But if Sequon was to come out in every single interview and be like, I need more money, I need more money. I think Eagles fans would like be like, yeah, definitely. See, you got a couple of years left in this entire thing. What's the precedent? How are we going to do this? So I don't know how like many people would have been like, yeah, give him more money without this worked out. So then I'm just being

like, we got to take care of our guy. We got to make sure he knows how much we value him. We got to make sure he understands that we believe in everything that he's about. It's a, that's a beautiful thing to watch. It's a message to the rest of the team though. Think about it sends a message to the team too. Hey, if you come here and you do like, you're unbelievable and you're, you know, we don't see all the behind the scenes stuff.

We just know what we hear and how the guy is just, you know, the absolute pro at all times and unbelievable for his teammates. But it shows you like, hey, we take care of our dudes. Even though yet we didn't draft Saquon, we traded for him. He comes in and we take care of them. I wonder who instigated who started this? Like, did Ed come to the Eagles? Money Ed Barry

come in there and say, hey, now we need some more cash? Or did they come to him? Like that's how did this even start? I genuinely have no idea. I wonder if there was a conversation that was had. It was like, hey, don't you think by either side? It's like, yeah, actually, we should. That does make sense, yeah. Yeah, we should. And that's the type of culture I think they're trying to build over there too, right?

Like Sirianni talks about how much bonding and love and everything. Because there's always going to be adversity, especially in Philadelphia. Okay, there's going to be adversity in Philadelphia. Their fans are going to bring you some adversity, whether or not there is adversity. I mean, they're winning games last year and people are calling for heads. They changed their style of offense. There are two wide receivers who have been paid who are number one wide receivers on their on their own. Had less pass attempts than rushing attempts for the entire offense and they

still kept everybody on board. It's like that culture over there that building is in a very good spot. Fresh off of the Super Bowl. Lose a couple key pieces but this is what happens whenever you're successful. They keep Sequon. I assume they're gonna be able to keep that offensive line. And if you got that, you can win any game. And I assume that's what they know over there. It seems like this would be something that is mutual because obviously when they acquired Saquon, like if he stays healthy and he does all the things

that you think he can do, you know, he's going to have an unbelievable season. But I would even imagine that, like what he did this year surpassed their wildest expectations I don't think you assume a guy's gonna rush for 2,000 yards and for him to to realize like hey I'm from this area growing up. I went to Penn State like this is where I want to be for you know As long as I can be so yeah, if it's a little bit more money here Why not and for them to know like the Eagles probably don't win the Super Bowl if they don't have Saquon Barkley Not probably. Yeah, that's well, right don't have Saquon Barkley not probably yeah That's well, right you just you know I'm not trying to talk in absolutes here

But yeah, like absolutely if they don't have Saquon Barkley. They're not winning the Super Bowl So it makes sense like let's not carry this thing out and drag it out longer than it needs to be Let's make sure he's happy and get things done like you said for Howie like you can do this kind of stuff when you have a bunch of rookies and young guys who are immediate impact players on your offense and defense and you know and you get a guy like Zach Bond who you paid for pennies and Then he has the season like he has so it's just tremendous all around for the Eagles And we talk when we talk about it being a mutual deal situation There is a chance because sometimes when players get these extensions that

The cap it for this year could actually be better than what it was going to be on his current contract and they do have a ton of people to pay. So as far as it being mutual, it could be a situation like that too, where his cap it is actually better this season, even though he's getting more money, he's getting an extension, he's getting more guaranteed money, but it works out for the team and the player. Go ahead, AJ. No, I mean, I think that when you can spread it out and give a guy a deal,'ll free you up cap space like right now in the moment so I'm sure yeah it worked out for

everybody we get to take care of this guy that has done so much for this organization the short time he has been here and it might free us up a little bit in cap space even though we are making this guy the highest paid running back of all time. I bet your big dom was the one that said we need to do it. Probably. Definitely had something to do with it. But even with them, because we were talking about it with the Niners, having to move these pieces around because you have to pay your quarterback. Like how we pay Jalen Hurts.

But his cap hit is super low. He's making 51 a year. But his cap hit is to the point where they can have all this flexibility where people were still talking about, hey, they may be in the Miles Garrett ballpark and making that work somehow some way And this is one thing to talk about it AJ talked about this deal doing this at this point says a message to the locker room is one way one thing to talk about it

But we all know a business like the money is how you show your respect especially in that locker room Especially at that position when you are taking that risk to give that money to a running back position We look we looked at it a few weeks ago, all the guys on the Eagles roster who've already been paid, where there's O-Line, the guys on the D-Line, secondary, all up and down that roster, guys have gotten fair, good contracts up front. So once again, another great move from how...

I wonder, you know, McVeigh says, I want to see as opposed to hear or something like that. I can see how you feel a lot different than hear how you feel or something like that. I can see how you feel a lot different than here, how you feel or something like that. I forget his exact quote, what it was. It's like to your point, it's like, yeah, we love you. We love you. We love you here. And then actually being like, no, yeah, like,

Hey, we're like very grateful for you, man. Thank you for what you did. That's not that Saquon never not be all in, but I'm just saying the amount of buy-in that you have from stars now, Jalen Super Bowl champion paid all in.alen, Super Bowl champion, paid all in. Saquon, Super Bowl champion, paid all in. It's like having your guys be all in is good news

for the off season, going into training camp, just the ease of the mind taking distractions out of the way because there's always going to be them. And I love the move, taking care of their guy, taking care of their guy. It'll make you want to prove them right. Like we know like athletes, you're driven by proving people wrong.

Like, all right, I hate this person. They slide to me, I got a chip on my shoulder. Like there's a ton of motivation in that, but there's also motivation in trying to prove people right. Like, hey, these people believe in me. Like these front office, they didn't have to do this. And I think that trickles down through everybody in the roster.

Like you, if you feel like they, like it's a true partnership and they appreciate you, yeah, you want to do whatever it takes to prove them right. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who spends all of his time on ESPN. And even when he's on ESPN, he says he's not going to spend all his time on ESPN. Then he comes back to being on ESPN, which is good news for all of us. Ladies and gentlemen, former NFL quarterback now, expert on everything, football and ESPN, Dan Olovsky. former NFL quarterback now, expert on everything football and ESPN, Dan Urlovski. Yeah! Dan-o, obviously, you know the Johns well. Your wife, I believe from Philadelphia, you pay close attention to the Eagles because of that.

You've said some things throughout the year about the Eagles. You weren't the only one. A lot of people have said these things. But this deal that Halle and Saquon were able to get done through money team Ed Barry uh I love it not only like is it historic amongst running backs and everything like that but just there was no need for it and for the Eagles to say we want to take care of our guy I think that's good precedent to set with the football gods Dano. This just happened? Yeah, I just broke it, bub. So 20, so we got a two year extension for what? 40, 40.1 or something? Yeah, but with incentives, incentives included,

it could go up to 25.85 million per year if he hits all incentives, which I assume is everything he did this past season. Bro, that's sick. That's a Russian record. Howie Roseman, God bless. Isn't it two years left on a deal? Two years left on a deal.

Could have just waited it out. Nobody would be petitioning for Saquon. Instead, get a deal done in the off season here. Now we got no question marks on who our studs are, Dio. I also think, I think Philadelphia for years, I mean, I remember going back, I think like 10 years, they were always, or one of the teams that was always paying guys a year early. Like so often teams wait till and places wait till the person's contract up or a player's contract is up and it's like the very end of it. And I remember, I thought they did it maybe with like Fletcher Cox and Lane Johnson,

where they just choose to pay, Hey, we drafted you out. You're in your second year. We're just going to extend you cause you, we know you're a good player and whatnot. So, um, Philadelphia, uh, that means right now it's the best roster in football clearly and it certainly seems like they've added it but it's It's awesome to see it's one of the reasons why it seems like those people love playing there is how he does take care of them And so it's big time for them. Yeah, I agree. They'll continue to stay committed to the run game I think they had seven15 rushes 515 passes Last season it was like they clearly committed to the one over the other

Kept everybody happy and won a Super Bowl, which means all the teams are gonna try to do the same exact thing So not only trailblazing in this entire thing. They're also taking care of their guys that are doing it all good for the Eagles man Go for Philadelphia. That's the city of brotherly love. That's the city of brotherly love right there. The amount of the runs that happened, I remember I texted Kellan, I think some point maybe late September. What'd you say? Hey, I'm trying to get Sirioni fired for you to become the head coach? And I said, I don't to get Siri on. He fired for you to become the head coach. And I said, uh, I don't know exactly how the conversation was started or whatnot. Probably like that. Got it.

Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. Go ahead. I honestly think that we can break the amount, like the rushing attempts record. That was like the mindset flipped for them at some point late September, maybe it was after the buy and hold the whole stories that the offensive line going to him. But I remember him telling me, we honestly might try and

break the rushing attempts record. Okay. So congrats to the Eagles. Everybody's going to try to catch them, especially in this draft season, free agency season, franchise tag season. They're at the top of the mountain. Everybody's trying to catch up. Before we talk about everything happening in the football world Let's talk about you for a second What was all that shit about? Come back. Yeah, you all right. They're dying Oh, yeah, it was like you were gone for forever and then we just saw you on TV and it was like

Okay. I thought he was pulling a Jimmy Johnson. Yeah. Calling it. Yeah. Jimmy Johnson, congrats on a hell of a career in the football world. Football appreciates Jimmy Johnson for everything he's done to football. Listen, I honestly don't know why that became such a big deal.

Honestly, I do that. No, I don't. I do that. I do that same thing. A day or two after the Super Bowl every year I go from being on TV every day and then taking a pretty substantial break And so I was just saying like hey, I'll be going away Is there a reality that there is a business element of it coming at some point? Sure

But that's the I do that every year. Okay, you okay you capping dog okay we don't know if you care not we have not paid close enough attention we do know we know cap okay no cap okay no cap he says he's not capping he's capping he's capping he's capping he's capping you say go check i do it okay i you can go check at the fine first take the day or two after the last three circles i said basically the same we can tell if he kept yeah but this year you you know added a few crying emojis and everyone wanted to get your tissue yeah but it was real life it wasn't actual tweets it was real life it seemed a little bit more emotional this time it was a real part of that yeah that's a real

thing that's it was a long season too and you are on TV every single day so whenever you know the abrupt absence of Dan Urlovsky, we all feel it. So we appreciate the heads up. But I think a lot of people thought it was a little bit more serious. I think because the business end, it also leaked that maybe there is a timeline on all that. Well, we would like you to know we miss you when you're not on TV and we're happy you're back.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Daniel. Welcome back, Dan. Not that you signed a deal. Not that you signed a deal. I'm not. Yeah not I'm not back wait wait we're back you were going mad dummy yesterday on TV you know I I worked

yesterday because it was the Monday after the NFL combine beyond two days next week because it's NFL free agency. I think I work a day or two at the end of the car. These are the final days in a scan. We're winding down. He's patted, he's patted. He's not patted, he's just a matter of fact right now. He's patted around that office.

I can see it now. He said they got me booked two days next week, two days the following week. We got the combine, the draft. That's why I'm in there doing, I'm doing my job. But there's a conversation that needs to be had, I think is what Dan Roloff keeps saying. And what we'd like to say,

we're gonna enjoy every appearance that you make. We are, yeah. We should record them all. Every appearance you make. That's not good. Faith Evans? You sure? You sure?

No, that's the police. That's the police. That's the police. The police. That's not gooddy. That's not Diddy. You sure? Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure. No, that's the police. That's the police. It's not Diddy. It's not Diddy. It's not Diddy. It's not Diddy.

It's not a Diddy song. It's a Sting song. Sting? That's not, that's not real. It's the police, dude. Do it as well. So this is the Sting version. I think Sting sang it first?

No. Every appearance you make. Still in black art, huh? For granted we won't take. That's not art. That's not art. That's not art. That's not art. That's you make. Still in black art. For granted we won't take. That's not true. Easy butts. Okay so you're going to bat for Diddy right now? No, no, no. That's what it sounds like. You're South Beach guy. You're South Beach guy they say. Oh. I just want to say.

Diddy butt. What I would like to say is the appearances that you will be making over the course of the next few weeks, we will definitely take in and enjoy because we think you're fantastic on the television, which is why it was good to see you yesterday. Great to see you right now. And whatever happens in the future, we'll obviously support you. Friend of the program since the beginning. They were talking WWD. And getting in the, oh yeah. Thanks. You guys talk about seeing WWD. Oh yeah, you guys talked about

Cena a little bit. I saw John Stewart talked about it as well. I don't know if you saw that. That was pretty brilliant. Pretty brilliant. Did you see that montage last night? Look up John Stewart. Yeah, it's good. It's worth the blog. He really

brings it all together. What heel turn shook the wrestling world more? The Hogan one or the Cena one? So the Hogan one was in WCW. The Cena one is a massive ordeal. Just strictly because it hasn't been publicly stated about Hulk that he would never turn heel. Now granted it might happen in the sheets and everything like that, but nowadays with

how much coverage and social media and everything, it's been addressed so many times. That Cena's never going to turn. John Cena is a guy that is always a good guy. That is who he is. And then he signs up for this retirement tour, this one more tour and it's like, okay, everybody's going to get the John Cena one last time. And instead this is a brand new John Cena. This is a, this is a heel John Cena who sold his soul to the final boss. And it's like now the next 10 months, I'm excited to see what it looks like. I have no idea what to do.

How many times you think the Rock practiced that? How many times has he done it before? A billion. That was probably one. He has a practice. He has a way to do it. Yeah, he just goes out there. I didn't, I didn't, was this dead in peace? Is that what he said? Yeah. Send, he just goes out there. Was this dead and

then peace is what he said. Yeah, sent him on his way brother. Kill him. So I was thinking that's not the countdown. It's been reported now. There's a chance that there is a little you know, there's a chance because he gets one. Yeah. Two. Mm hmm. Three. Yeah. It's like well, seeing this thing is the three thing. Exactly. And then then does to there after the thing So what's the one could be? Well, the one could be the only one We need to go back and watch the tape and figure out who?

ruptured Cody's eardrums. Yeah, that is being reported that figure out who Tony did rupture blows eardrums Yeah, we think we're not hurt since sure but we think We don't know Yeah, we don't know if he ruptured his ear drum there Or if he ruptured his ear drum, but he's being reported online I do not know more than anybody else legitimately they don't tell me anything

But yeah, it was reported that he ruptures ear drum and I'll tell you what I've had a hole in my eardrum for years and decades at this point You're not fun. It change it is is it is not a fun thing to deal with I believe when you're in buds To become a Navy SEAL if you get a hole in your eardrum or rupture your eardrum They actually hold you back until the next one because underwater and all the different pressure and everything that is a part of it Like it can really really water is where really get you so cuties gonna be shy in one-eyed you know potentially if the allegations are true but feels like Travis Scott can bring a smack if you need still all right let's talk a little football shall

we Dano so I would say the scene of turn is the biggest just strictly because I think I was younger when the Hulk Hogan thing happened and certainly was awesome because NWO was a Fantastic run and doing it on macho the way it went down But now with how much it's been discussed and what we're in the middle of ten months left of this thing I thought it was just like a come see come see the hustle loyalty respect guy like one last time and now it's the complete opposite something we've never been told. But I don't know cuz didn't the Hulkster say he's still getting booed from... Riding dirty down in California. That's a good point. Last time he was there though.

Hemet Hall at Nash last time he was in LA he was riding dirty. Bad guys. That's why they booed him. Anyways let's move along to some football chatter because we only got so many days left with the World Luskers. That's right. That's sad, man. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Play the hits, brother. I know, I saw you getting a little bit emotional on television about Sam Darnold.

You're a believer in Sam Darnold. You think he had two bad games at the end of the year? Because we're talking at one point, maybe he gets $50 million a year. He's going to be the creme de la creme of this particular quarterback free agent circuit. Now, everybody's just assuming, I guess, the conversation is gonna go back to the Vikings. You know, the Giants allegedly met the number

for Matthew Stafford. Will they meet the number for Sam Darnold then? Like, what are your thoughts on Sam Darnold and what do you think it looks like for him next year? Yeah, it's kind of weird how ever since those last two games happened, it's been like the instead of celebrating Sam Darnold, it's been the yeah, but about Sam Darnold, did you see the last two games and I kind of talked about it yesterday.

If you go back to when Geno Smith went to Seattle and all of a sudden had that one awesome year, it was like, oh, you know, Geno can play and finally had the right stuff around and coaching and all that. And then Baker Mayfield gets cast away from Cleveland and he can't play and this guy stinks. And all of a sudden he goes down to Tampa. I know he went to two quick stops, but nothing glamorous. He goes to Tampa plays and it's like, oh, Baker could play a little bit like Jared

golf as well. Like, Hey, you know, Jared golf went from, Hey, stinks to Oh, Jared golf can play. And so I don't understand kind of a little bit of the sour narrative around Sam. I think the part of it too is like last those last two games, I'm not making excuses for him, but it's the first time he's been in it. I guess that's the first time he's ever felt that as a pro, that pressure, that expectation. It was a little bit house money this past year because there wasn't certainly expectations going into the season.

I think for Sam, the conversation, so Minnesota, if I was Minnesota, it would start with Sam Darnold. There's a line of demarcation that I would not cross and obviously not everyone's correct. I heard Herbie say it, like it does have, what's your viewpoint of JJ McCarthy? Because it's not just Sam versus JJ. It's Sam versus JJ and like 30 or 40 million. So maybe the organization sits there and goes, hey, we think JJ is going to be just as productive as Sam in the next year, year and a half. And we really need to take that 30 or 40 million and build up our secondary or build up our, you know, inside

linebacker group or something. And so if they believe that the JJ McCarthy plus the money gives them a better team and they think JJ is going to be similar production, there's a line that you don't go past. I also, from Sam's perspective, Sam went through quarterback hell essentially for his first, I don't know, six years in the league. And how much does he really want to leave that cocoon, that insulation, that support

that he has in Minnesota? Like, are you going to run and say, well, Minnesota has only offered me three for a hundred and Pittsburgh's offering me four for, you know, 120. Is Pittsburgh that 20 million, that much of a difference for you because the places quarterback friendly wise aren't even close. So you'd be getting more average per year with the Vikings there I think you'd take that one right? 4 for 120 is 30 a year, 3 for 100 is 33. You know what I mean let's say the deal that you put out there was one that I think he he's

getting paid more at the Vikings and he doesn't have to move and he's with Kevin O'Connell but I understand what you're saying for him do you want to leave the same thing with Matthew Stafford do you want to get up and move do you want to do that entire thing yet again whenever you know you have success here the threshold is a very real convo I think probably with the Vikings and Sam Darnold I'm also excited to see JJ with Kevin O'Connell if that is the case a lot of weapons a lot of success will they be able to do it again where Sam go let's talk about another Dom I heard Kevin loves I've

heard Kevin loves McCarthy. Loves him. I think Kevin would love anybody. Yeah. I think Kevin would love anybody. I think he's like a great coach. I think he cares. I think he's a great coach. I think he's a great ball coach over there. He's got a great culture. Let's stay with the quarterback Dominoes though. Go ahead, Coman. Yeah, Dana, what do you think about Rogers? You know, he's kind of another one of those guys out there that, you know, let's assume he is one of those guys out there that you know, let's assume he is playing Do you think there's one spot or a couple spots that line up perfectly for him? And do you think that maybe teams will consider almost a package deal with Devonti?

Not he's a free agent that they might be able to poach him as well if they were to sign Rogers. I Think there's three spots that make sense for me and Aaron Rodgers the Giants the Steelers and the Titans I'll start with I Steelers and the Titans. I'll start with, I'll start with the Titans. One, if they are for some reason adamant that they're not going to take Kim Ward, I don't think they should do that. I think that they should take Kim Ward. But if they decide we're not taking Kim Ward and we're going to trade out of the number

one pick or something like that, the reality is this, there's, there is a little, and I love Callahan, their head coach. I know Brian, that he's going to have to win. He's going to have to have a quarterback play relatively well this season. He was hired for that. And so that's the reality of their business. And so, you know, if they decide maybe it's Will Levesse and Aaron competing against each other for that job, I can understand that one. The second one would be the Giants. I said this yesterday, like let's live in the world where Kam Ward goes number one to Tennessee and then Cleveland takes Travis Hunter

If I think if Kam Ward goes number one to Tennessee Cleveland should sprint to the podium podium for Travis Hunter at number two So then the Giants at three. Are you taking Chador at three? I think Chador is a good player I do at three feels high Okay, that's just my opinion right now. We'll see if that changes over the next couple weeks I don't think it will so then if you're the Giants, do you say nope? We're gonna go get I don't know Maybe they trade down or something like that or whoever they pick at three again If Travis Hunter was there you run to the podium, but then you go well Let's take a player at three or trade down at three and then in the second round or maybe they go back into the first

Is it Jackson Dart or is it Jalen Milro? I go to I don't think Jackson Dart gets past the 20th pick in my opinion So if I think you're gonna have to go past the Pittsburgh it so if you're the Giants I think you'll have to go back to first round. If you don't remember Brian, Dable has ties to Nick Saban. You guys have obviously impact you on game day have heard Nick Saban talk about Milro and I know he's flawed. I'm aware that he is flawed, but my goodness, there is a ton of talent

physically there and you're then going Dable and Shane, they got a win by November. And so can you sign Aaron for a brief period of time? And you're then going, Dable and Shane, they got to win by November. And so can you sign Aaron for a brief period of time? He's your starting quarterback. He keeps you afloat. And then if things are okay, or you want to change or Mill Road ready or something like that,

then you have the next guy to go to. And then if it's Pittsburgh and Justin and Russell, don't go back there. I still think they need to add a young kid, but Aaron would make sense, yes. Aaron, what a fascinating dilemma. AJ, what do you think? He plays again, right?

This is not like he's just gonna retire. Yeah, I have a hard time seeing him just turn off and stop playing, yeah. Why do you think that is? Every year that this has come up, you've given like basically a similar answer and I forget it, so I apologize. He's at the end of a career.

He's Hall of Famer. He's the wealthiest NFL player in the history of anything he gets everything he does gets I mean absolutely crucified like do you think there's any chance that he just says all right that's it yeah I mean I think there's I think everything's on the table with Aaron you know that like we don't know exactly what he I'm sure I don't know if he knows exactly what he's gonna do but I just you know being around him how competitive he is how well he can yeah played at the end of the season Yeah, I have a hard time believing that he's just gonna hang it up

Yeah I think that's the thing from my conversations with him and we've been very lucky to be friends With Aaron Rodgers over the last five years and we don't hang out with him nearly as much or talk to him nearly as much As AJ or anybody that played alongside of him and his teammates and everything like that But it's like everybody kind of talks about you know no kids no family this dude focused on ball. Everything he does is for ball like and you talk about why do you love the NFL and it's like I love the NFL because it is my outlet to scratch the itch of my competitive urge like he loves competition and it's like if're that good, still able to be that committed. And another team is like, hey, we know it didn't go right with the Jets, but

we think we have the right situation for you. I see him playing ball again. I can't wait to watch it. I mean, I don't know. What's his relationship with Tom like? Good. Tom Brady. Brady.

Yeah. Like my mind goes to end of Tom's career Tampa The overwhelming obvious thing was how good the offensive line was and then their success he got beat up in New York So I would imagine he wants to go to a place that that is going to not be a concern like he's got to get tired Of getting hit he got healthy to AJ's point after the I don't know November He started to play better because he was getting hit less So I you know what the Raiders got two really good, young offensive linemen.

I would also entertain, like, if they're able to, three, Colton Miller's still good. So if they can get an offensive line piece in free agency, maybe that becomes also a destination. I don't know what his and Tom's relationship is like, but I would imagine the number one thing is, I gotta be, I gotta be protected. Like I don't wanna get hit anymore.

Didn't they play catch during that golf thing? Yeah. You would know more than us AJ. Oh, and they did like their version of the match. Yeah. They seem to get along. I think they get along great. I think there's a couple of those dudes that are, that can only have conversations

with a couple of those dudes, you know? Yeah. I think that is like Peyton and Tom get along. Vastly different people, I think, if you, the way they go about doing their thing, but they get along well. Aaron vastly different than both of those guys, but I assume that there is a, you know,

like, hey, we are, we get it here. Yeah. The air a little bit different. Our conversations a little bit different. Hey, have you seen every single defense over the last 30 years? Yeah, me too. Okay. If you seen every single defense over the last 30 years? Okay, you beat every single day. Yeah. Oh me too. Whenever you see this What is this Tom Brady being as hands-on as he is with the Raiders?

He's a that was an eye-opener for me, you know, like I think the quarterbacks gonna be in a good spot Let's say they don't go with veteran quarterback though. Let's say they go with a young quarterback tie as a question for you Yeah, Dan, oh you just mentioned it a little bit there and I assume you've looked at some of the tape at this point. What are your thoughts on this year's QB draft class? And also you had a tweet about Cam Ward where you basically said like his tape wasn't as expected. Was that in a negative or a positive context? Yeah, big time positive context. After I've watched basically every snap, maybe a game or two still of cams. So for me, Kim Ward reminds me a lot of Baker Mayfield. What I mean by that is there is a loose element to his game, but a twitchy element to his

game where that ball comes out like once his eyes tell him throw it, it happens fast. And that's a trait that I love in quarterback play. Like that was the thing with Jaden Daniels is how quick he played. The thing that I was referencing in that tweet and you guys are going to show us like these plays happen, like the run around plays, the thing that got me so much more excited about Cam Ward and made me really appreciate how good a player he is, is what he does from the pocket in timing. You know, his, that throw was awesome. And so I wasn't expecting that, Ty. Like I wasn't expecting this guy that from the pocket was so much more in rhythm, in timing, in with his feet.

And I mean, those throws are awesome. And so when I watch him throw the middle field and the different types of throws and the windows that he sees, and when that back right foot hits, that ball pops out of his hand. The playmaking is there.

And so that's like for me, why I am, if I'm Tennessee and I remember I said this years ago when since he was on the number one pick with Joe, like that, this is what he does as good as gosh guys that have come out early in this draft over the past couple of years, that back right foot hits man and he puts that ball in between the numbers. So lean, sometimes there's a little touch, sometimes it's driven. And so the way he's married his feet with some of the throws I love and the playmaking is there. So I like that he measured six to like my only two downsides tie would be this.

My only two, I guess, hesitations. I'll go back to the story about Joe when I was like, if Cincinnati, I don't care what the trade offer is, you're taking Joe Burrow. I don't care if someone offers you three first round picks, you are not moving off of it. I'm not that close to where I was in regards to that situation,

but I don't think Tennessee should move off number one, okay? I think the two hesitations are, I don't wanna call them concerns, but the things, he's 6, two, I would love for him to be six, four. Yes. He's six, two. Okay. So it's not a major problem, but, and then he will make you hold your breath at times. Um, there are some moments where you're like, what are you going to do here? And then more often than not, it works out well in college. I don't know if it, how consistently would in the NFL,

but I think he's the clear, clear, clear, clear, for me, clear number one pick. Everybody has to hold their breath around other teams when Cam's playing, cause they stinky, dog. Oh, that's no Cam! They stinky. They stinky. Yeah, that wasn't it.

That's what that means? What the hell was that, dude? Yeah. What'd you just do? That's what this means? I don't know what it is. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Don't be throwing your heart out, baby! That's easy! Don't be fucking easy! Don't be throwing your heart out! you just do that's what this means he's not an elephant dance anyways Dan oh

you talk about him being on time and everything like that six two and all that good stuff for cam warden his arm strength is obviously very much alive and you know you watch clips of him working out love everything he's about what crystal ball says about what he did to that culture down there just getting dropped in flipping it and just becoming a great culture all of a sudden out of nowhere they give him a lot of credit for being able to rally motivate and unify so all good qualities of a court he comes from an athletic family too like you know is I cousin or uncle is Quandre Diggs, whose brother is Quinton Jammer. I texted Quandre about him, like, tell me what kind of human he is.

Quandre's like, he's as much of a dog as I've ever been around. He's an unbelievable leader, super hard worker. He was like, honestly, the fact that he's in this position blows my mind because Quandre's going to be mad that I said this. He's like, as a kid, he sucked. So he's got to. Karnat, well I end up at, I mean, yeah, Karnat Ward, in Karnat Ward to Washington State to Miami

to potential number one overall pick. It's like, gotta work your ass off for that. I love adjourn. That would make sense to be a dog if that was the trip that you had to take. Tone has a question for you, Dan-O. Yeah, Dan, we learned last week that when Chris Ballard talked that they are gonna have an open competition with Anthony Richardson for their starting quarterback Who do you think that quarterback should be you think that's a good sign for the number four overall pick third year coming in?

That was kind of it's not a good sign for Anthony That was kind of a loaded question It's not surprising. I think there's a lot of people on the table They're not gonna be able to spend a ton of money on guys You know Daniel jones obviously comes to mind because it might be cheap. Yep Going guys, you're good fit sam's not gonna go there Aaron maybe you know again for a place that you feel needs some leadership and needs some, we got to go win.

You know, I could see Aaron, Jamus. No, Yes! Jamus? More! Yeah. Fields?

Jamus? Hey, Jamus comes in. That might be exactly what... Yeah, I like the Justin one. I like Justin in New York with the Jets a little bit better. Because, I mean, if you're Indy, you want someone there, obviously. Like you want someone there to push Anthony, but you want Anthony to be the guy. So you know, Justin is still such an unknown.

And I think Justin will have a better opportunity for a little bit of a starting position. We know who's who. We know who's what, don't we? A lot of things kind of already been decided. You know, we're looking for dogs, need need more dogs would love dogs. I wish we could transfer portal our team Just get a new one still there, huh? Huh after combine still there. I've heard more you have no idea that I've ever ever ever more. It's like They I don't know how they become professionals, but hopefully they will know for the good of you know I was in buildings like that we

usually lost every game when we were like that it's gonna be different this year yeah I got too much talent that's the issue though so much talent you had guys like showing up late and not just not you know do stuff that you should do when you're in third grade like just the basics they weren't doing bingo yeah just the simplest stuff like, I remember we had guys that would come out to practice with sneakers on. We were on grass now. Sneakers, not turf shoes, not cleats. Sneakers, not tied. So loose sneakers, just shorts on, not even like a girdle or anything. And just a practice jersey with helmet unbuckled. They would run a rep in practice, probably do something pretty impressive because they

were athletically talented. They would take the ball, throw it back to the coach and then walk back to the huddle, take the next six or seven plays off. Give me a water match. Sounds like one guy. Yeah. Did I remember we had guys not even like, you know, in the season you'd have a day or two where you got to get like your mandatory lift in pre or post

Practice or something we have guys go into the weight room and not touch a weight It's never just stand there and not lift. That's awesome. Yes There's these little losing culture things that happen, and you know, yeah, you don't even think about you don't think about like going into a workout Okay, you're a fucking professional athlete And just taking laps around not lifting away and then you're out of there. You just fucking around. You just fucked it. You did not get better at all. You're getting paid to be a football player. This weight room will make you a better football player, but instead saying, nah. Not doing it. And I'm not saying I've seen anybody take that particular tactic,

but it's all those little things that are like the professional things. You know how they say the little things lead to the big things take care of the little things the big things take care of themselves it's like those little things are what make you a professional like that's what makes you a professional in this whole thing and it's like i don't think it's just the Colts obviously it's alarming how much it seemingly is the Colts but there it is and they can stop it and they'll change it next year but i think it's happening in a lot of places Dan i think it's happening in a lot of place a lot more than it's ever been, obviously. McDaniel talked about it with the finds in Miami.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he could find guys. I wonder if it's an NIL thing, like these guys are coming in with a little bit more money in their pockets or? Name, name, name, name, name, image likeness. Ah. Name, name, name, name, image likeness. There is a chance that, yeah, there isn't a feeling of, oh, I can get cut, you know, or, oh, I'm lucky to be here. Instead, it's complete opposite. These motherfuckers are lucky I'm here.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I was always scared. Yes, to death. Yeah. Yeah. Like if I made one mistake, I'm like, all right,

I'm gonna get fired. Even in like my seventh year, I was like, mistake, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get fired. Even in like my seventh year, I was like, yeah, if I, if I don't do it, I'm gonna get fired. So. Yeah. That's always a nice thing. Adam Vinatieri thought if he missed the kick in practice, he was gonna get cut. Cause it was at the point where he was trying. Yeah. If you did miss a kick in practice, you probably were cut if I had to guess. All All right, Dana. This is it last chance But as a true story you remember Matt Prater, yes, no, yeah great kicker so they got to a point I don't know how it happened later in my career. No, great. This is what Connor just said Yeah, I got some trader stories now No way, and we we were late in my career and something happened where I had to like hold.

I had to become the holder and I was, Sam Martin was holding for us. I don't know what happened or, but I had to like get reps in practice and holding. And I was terrible at it. And I remember constantly Prater would, I'd get the snap, put it down, missed a kick and Prater would just mother eff me under his breath, because then he started to get the shanks and all that. He was like, I'm going to get fired from you. This guy's ruining my timing.

This guy's obviously terrible at his job. Not easy to hold, but you change that timing up just a little bit. So hard. It's game set, man. Two practices. I want a D-butt to be my holder, you know? I want a D-butt to be my holder,

because I was backup kicker in practice, and I was if something was to happen to Vinny which could happen because he was getting older even though I never did because he's a machine he's absolutely a beast 25 years in abyss doing his thing whatever the case is but like they want I want to debug to be the order I'm like D but smoothest athlete I've ever seen I I think that'll be the... That's an easy choice. This fucking guy sucks. He was terrible? He was terrible. The laces are on the snap.

The laces are on the snap. I just had an easy job. Boop boop. The crazy thing about snapping was you lean the ball towards the goal post. Is that accurate? Yeah, in a way for you. Depends on the kicker. All right? Yeah. That's a good call actually by D. Butch.

Not everybody wants the ball leaning towards the goal post. Someone is straight up and down. Nobody wants it leaning back. Everybody wants it. I would be on lean. Yeah, that's why you're not, you know, and hopefully they hold you accountable. Hopefully they hold you accountable.

Good luck. Holder can miss a kick for the kicker though, easily. Just like let's say Holder hated the kicker Just fucking just like that. It's fucking miss. Say hey good luck Good luck. How can we do that? You lean it towards the kicker you lean the ball towards the kicker at all And it's a soccer style kicker which everybody is Fucked that's you if that's anything over 30 yards that thing things hook into the left

It's just like nobody talks about it like and after watching these punting this punting workout at the combine Or nobody could catch a football and then like these holds were like Really slow like very very so which is my message to the punters like yeah You guys punt so well like these dudes are so good at punting footballs They just got to get comfortable catching a football, you know, because it's a little different sport They're used to punting the ball like whether it's Ozzy Rose football It's coming up from the top catching up there a dart coming right at you or something coming right at you is a different style They can certainly learn how to do that, but not everybody does but like the holding how quickly you get it onto the ground

This is D bus from DBot had two good hands. You know, so that ball comes in and it's... Stock two. Stock two, and it's, the ball's slow as shit down to the ground. So by the time the time comes to kick it, it's like, balls down and you're kicking, so you have no idea what it is.

So like the goal is to have good hands, but not too good, and just a fucking, bubble. That ball's trying to get down to the ground as fast as possible can. So if Vinatieri has as much time to see his target that he's trying to hit and then let's not move that fucking thing either If the ball is moving while he kicks it miss if it's leaning toward am I right the great snappers the great snappers Just snap the ball basically sir. You just have to go like this. Yes That's what they're judged on and the laces the laces are 99 out of 100 times already pointing at the goalpost.

That's what you're aiming for. The goal is for the laces to be from like nine o'clock to three o'clock. If you look at a clock, okay, nine to three. So then it's just like a little touch, a little easy portrayal. That is what the long stampers are being judged for. There's only 32 jobs. So if you can't stamp laces and you can't hit up your ass is gone And it's like I started talking to those kids become a great long snapper. Oh

tan bombs Really? Like he said out of the blue. He said the kid never even like played football and then like in the last year He started a long snap. I think he's going to like Michigan for long snapping. That's awesome That's a good that's a good angle to get in there, especially for good. You got to be consistent I assume he will be I'm surprised tannenbaum didn't try to trade him for like a starting quarterback or something For two starting quarterbacks That's a tannenbaum bitch draft

He's awesome This comes from but we'll turn on the TV Tannenbaum is trading two quarterbacks Defensive end for four picks and three teams are involved that say they are not doing anything Yeah, the Rams were taking on Sean Watson's contract. Yeah Let's need you eat the contract for the Cleveland Browns and to get miles Garrett It's like he's been in those rooms so he obviously knows the fantasy camp I guess that takes place with these trades but some of the things he puts up there I'm like

who the fuck's real who the fuck what's that they're unreal like yesterday when he said trade Michael Parsons for Miles Garrett I was like why not just pay Mike Parsons shut up Dan is that all work but I appreciate that he does it it I was like, why not just pay my person? Shut up, Dan. That's not how it works. But I appreciate that he does it. It gives us all fodder. He's the best. He's the best. And the 33rd team, I believe, is becoming like a full on consulting firm.

You know, so good for them. Good for everything they got operating. And Dan-O, last question here from D-Butch, and it's about the current NFL. So let's get it right, please. And of course, Dan-Will, I saw you mentioned, we were talking about Hesham McVeyone yesterday Stafford going back to the Rams obviously a huge deal but uh I still got Philly clear-cut is the best team in the NFC I know we're pre free agency pre-draft but standing as is right now who was kind of nipping at their heels right now is it the commies

Rams Lions healthy who you got in the NFC right behind Philly or do you have someone coming in above Philly next year now I think Philly's still the number one team roster wise and I would put the reins at two obviously a lock and change for agency draft I go back to the regular season saying hey that's the team that they don't want to play and I remember Darius Slay last week or two weeks ago said that that was the team in their mind that they knew could beat them like they they knew because of the style of all in Stafford So I would put the Rams at two listen Detroit is outstanding But I want to see what it looks like with without Ben Johnson there offensively. It's still a great talent offensively

I just don't know a ton about their new offensive coordinator John Morton. So So, you know, Detroit there, I think Green Bay is still very much. So just right there as well. I think everyone puts the commanders there. I'm not as high on that as I think the commanders. And I said this yesterday, D, but you guys know it, laud them, praise them. Congrats. Awesome year. You want five games on the last play. That's not real in the NFL

You win three of those and and that's that's not that real And so while you give them praise for that I also think they can't fall into the trap that maybe like The Giants did a couple years ago and tables first year when they somehow stumbled into the playoffs and like oh maybe we're closer than we thought we were and stumbled into the playoffs and like, oh, maybe we're closer than we thought we were. And then you make some decisions because you think maybe we're this move away or that move away. And I think the commanders have to have a mindset of, you know what? We're still building and we're still trying to chase down some of those teams to get into

that upper grouping rather than there are some teams that you go, we're a move away. We're a guy away. And I don't put command command I don't put the commanders in there just yet I still think I want to see what their makeup is post free agency and draft let's not get too comfortable here yeah you got a lot of sacks but you also didn't get blocked for a bunch of times so let's uh let's know that we can continue to get better here if you're the commanders you gotta feel good especially bringing in Dibo I saw you love that move I saw you love that move yeah no team throws more screens perimeter screens than Washington.

So like if there's a guy in the NFL that you want to get the ball to in his hands and just you go do something with it, it's Debo. Was it the player that he's been in the past last year? There's a lot of reasons for that. San Francisco's offensive line pass protection is not what it was in years ago and the injury. So I still, and the versatility, like they love, you know, like pace and space, their offense runs no huddle. So you could put a bunch of different people on the field

and the defense is scrambling. You could put them at the back field. And so they love to run two backs. You can certainly utilize him in that capacity. So if he's anything, what he was in that three or four year stretch, it's a home run for Washington. We're looking for some pace and space. Pace and space. Pace and space. We're looking for some pace and space. Pace and space.

Pace and space. We're looking for some pace and race to win the races. Wait. Wait. Wait. Is that your coaching philosophy? Did you dive into that because potentially going to be coaching this year?

You know, with all your media stuff happening? I got two appearances next week and then. And then I was in. Two appearances two weeks after that. Have a great week. And I have really checks, but I got one appearance after that. What are you doing for the draft then? Yeah, what are you doing for the draft in I? Think we'll be there. I think we would be out in Green Bay. That's a be my guess. That must be nice

We won't be NFL doesn't want us there What you heard if you saw the picture you should have seen no I heard I heard yesterday when you guys were making fun of D bet for wearing a fake golf course hat so I heard Country club you would think I know you stand now Dan Would take a shot at the Compton Country Club But are you a member? That's too far, Dan. No, I'm not a member.

Well, it doesn't mean he's not real. I saw the golf swing on Instagram recently. It's coming along. Good. I wish I played as much golf as you, dude. It's coming along. He just took six weeks off. Yeah, if you stop crying, you can get on the course.

What's the low number? Low number is 82. Best game ever. Good play. Good play. How about you, Dan? Well done. Good play. Good play. How about you? Well done. What's your low play, Dan?

I haven't played golf in forever. Yeah, but in your history, you obviously have a fucking low score. Yeah, I think it's probably somewhere around. I honestly don't know. I remember you lied about that. Remember that scorecard? Yeah. Dan, he lied.

I literally told the truth Might be coming down to deep butts neck of the woods cup in yeah deep butts neck of the woods in a couple weeks for Some golf. Yeah another vacation Florida maybe a little TGL, D-Bud? Whoa. Close. You been down there? I have not, I have not.

It's getting less. Playoff. We got a couple teams, punched our playoff tickets. What? You guys might be out on it. I know Fox is a full on TGL mark right now, but I'm in, they got me. Yeah, I like it.

I'll watch the clips for sure. It's hard to keep up with when it's going Yeah, but I try on tonight. It's the last regular season tonight. It's tonight's got a lot on tonight. There's a lot on They've been playing like the middle of the afternoon. Yeah, three o'clock day night doubleheader. Yes You went to Hawaii, right? Yes, sir I think it's a chance to Justin Trudeau just hit the same thing. There's a lot going on. You got Transylvania.

Hotel Transylvania. You ever see that, Dan-O? You got 10 kids. There's four of them. They're all good. Of the kids or the Transylvania? There's four Hotel Transylvanians. They're all good.

Yeah, I agree. It's Adam Sandler's best work. Whoa, whoa, Hubie? That's extreme. Hubie Halloween? You're right, you're right, you're right. He's done some great. He doesn't have any bad ones really. Agreed. Thank you. I'm happy you're on that side. Dano gets it right every once in a while. We can't wait to see you the next time you're on TV because we know those days are passing by. Like the sand of an hourglass to enjoy every last drop of Dan O'ofske baby. Thank you Dan.

I'm going Donnie, you're neck in the woods. It's a golf. Don't fucking call me. Compton country club? That's not real. I texted D about to hang out when I was in Lotte. Donnie told me to go fuck myself. Really? Funny enough, I texted D about to hang out when I was in Miami. He also said, yeah maybe next year pal not wow racism a little bit little weird because they're white no Miami's far number one and miss my babies I was home yeah but had me you know pick it up dropping off practice

training volleyball golf after dropping you get a pedicure I saw those are awesome but oh yeah every time I take the my sneak in there again fuck no ladies look at me like can they're so nice I got a pedicure of my mother is the greatest thing I've tried my best I've done to it they hurt so bad yeah I'm comfortable I don't like any of it that's a bad that you got a bad technique I've done like four different places you know because the wife goes to a spot that's good or no spot and then somebody like was your a bank or I think Vinnie Terry took me for a pedicure one time because she was like I take care of her feet. I got here never been more uncomfortable. What?

Don't touch my feet. I don't like it. And when they're doing that it feels like they're actually sawing my toe off. I'm like get me out of here. Give me. I don't like it. I don't like it. You want the you want the calf? Yeah, that was the only thing it felt good when they weren't touching my feet. You had the hot colds? I think they had a hot bag of wax or something like that. Oh yeah. A bag of wax. That was pretty cool. You get the rocks. When they weren't touching my feet, it was great. Everything other than when they were

touching my feet. It's a big part. It was cool. It was cool. It was cool to be a part of. Miami so far. It is. I don't know how you were traveling down there and back so much. You still are. That place is so far away. The traffic in Miami, I experienced it for the first time. It's ridiculous. Bananas. I also came back and I first covered these like snow lady dolphins.

I spent five days in Miami, dolphins got no shot at winning football. A lot of distractions. There's no way man. A lot of distractions. God rest his soul, Va Davis. Yeah when he got traded to the Colts Was awesome obviously the moment got called my grandma and then he comes to the Colts and we had just seen that as well You know So we had no idea what to expect Then get a chance to start talking to Vaughn Tate and everything and he talks about how like Indianapolis like saved him like oh Yeah, being in Miami was hey

There was a lot going on a lot of options a lot of options and I'd hear these stories From him whether we're in a training room or in one of the tubs You know kind of in there just passing time Trying not to be as miserable and I just talked to myself every time poor Real happy bad actually never got sent down to Miami at that age at that time lot of opportunity a lot of opportunity down there everything is easy to garner down there and it's a readily available from what I've been told and after your guys this trip down there and after you watch what happens with these Dolphins teams it's like money opportunity warm weather all the time and just just like when you're staying

in a hotel in a casino okay you know the casino floor you're let's say 10 floors above it or whatever it's calling you can hear it actually through the things going a million dollars is down here and you're laying in your bed you can't sleep it's like I'm gonna go down to casino at the Miami Dolphins you have the beach all their bars all their adult ballet slash bars, all their other things just calling it all times. Hey, just one drink. Just come do one drink. And then bang, that's like five o'clock and one thing leads to another. You're on vacation for your entire life when you're a professional football player. For them to win, they're gonna have to get the right people done.

That's gonna be, you're gonna need old, you're gonna need married old people that are worried about a service. You're gonna need old you need married old People that are worried about hangovers like the golf Yes, come on. Yes, you know retirement. Yeah community type diary kill Yeah, see just like him he almost won for 2,000 yards down there good for him. Yeah Good for him. I was one for a Yeah Good for him. I was one for a tool I'm sure picking another team. Never know. No, I'm I am Stoked a job chance of them winning but I have done in my whole life if there's ever a point now

There's a new piece of information. Yeah, but yeah, but think about if they win a Super Bowl and I turned I could never sleep at night Thank you. I just to play I could never sleep at night. Thank you say why is to a plane? What's that you see that I think there was little lines on it, okay? Yeah, but did you see the tweet though? I did yeah, I did I believe it was from the Trump family posted it the two was Paul. That was the original tweet. Yeah Yeah, but the quote tweet. Yeah, I saw a lot of quotes. Yeah, the quote tweet I believe and there was many others that took care not their shots in that's here at welcome football That's how I think there's little lines because I was very flabbergasted. I zoomed what was going on

I think there was like little tiny lines. I'm like wow you gotta be really good at stuff with the pieces That's my question. Oh there are you That different angle. I think you zoom in there's like little tiny like you see like little lines there Yeah, you can see the dots of like where the corners are. It's still not a good chessboard. No, it's terrible No, you gotta be really good at chess to be on a board that isn't an actual board without a doubt So I too was playing well too as a chess player always has been always will be Show me my mind. Give me my money season started

Arrested on the way to the first game of the season at home. Like we never had a shot last year dude. You know what next year's the year go. You're right. I got no money to spend but we're gonna give her all we got. Kind of money spent in Miami's wake. Always. There you go. That traffic is crazy. Not supposed to have that many people down there, huh? As soon as you, as one, it goes like four different highways. It's like you get there, you can be three miles from your spot. It's going to take you an hour. Yeah, 40 at least. It is so annoying.

You just walk, right? That's what you did? I know we couldn't. Like you had to get on the highway to get around to some spots. But yeah, once you get to your first first location you can walk to the other locations but it's legitimately impossible to not take an uber at least once a day. These flying cars need to pick it up. Don't you think? For sure. I don't know if we're ever gonna be able to use those but. Well I've seen a lot of memes and videos. Like the little drone where you can sit in like one or

two people it'll take you Yeah, we're hang on like you're Tom Cruise. Yeah, I mean that'd be sweet, too Yeah, you better have some good grip strength. Yeah, we would you can latch in like David Boyd They got cars the balloon choppers in them when I sent you. Yeah. Yeah And I saw one car that just was car build, had drones on like basically all four sides at the bottom. And it went up and over some traffic, I think. But you never know what's animated AI.

No, you don't. And those people who can drive cars can definitely drive planes. I think you would probably have to prove some sort of ability to be in the sky yeah I mean we got mid up there and people will do that ever gonna be close to a monument you want to be in the skies here's here it is right here actually don't ever a car that's what we're looking for right

there well a lot of yearsics company releases first flying car. Look at it, you can see it. It's taking off. There's a human in there. That's real. This is our life. So what situation is this used in? I'm in Miami, I just got downtown.

I'm three miles away. They said it's gonna take an hour. And I said, you know what? Me and my Ayliff Aeronautics are fucking going up and down right to whatever place the boys stop by. If you're driving on on a highway the tree fell down and you have to get cross that is You ollie yeah, you're doing an all-year a bunny hop basically or if the roads are snowy, okay? Okay, you have to come down some real video is it my partner is it? What are you talking about?

Bingo keep dreaming boys. What about parallel parking? No more. I'm fucking up and I'm done. Pick it up, put it down. That's what I'm doing. That's true. Look at that smooth landing. Much smoother than something we've seen. Yeah, I can go over what I can move up 12 feet. Oh look. Oh lookie lookie. There's an 18 wheeler down. Well that sucks for everybody but who? You. Look at that. So real. You're being the coolest guy in school. Cops are on the other side saying whoa whoa whoa we're stopping traffic on the ground. Okay I'm in the fucking sky dude. Altitude 13 feet I'm out of here. That's future we're lucky to be a part of it hopefully. That's the future. Let's get to a break we'll be back tomorrow. Pretty big show today. Yeah. That's awesome. Broke you show broke some news insider thought that news was coming last week. It's By their report that everyone reported properly well

so properly chef he actually got to tweet out about half minute for us because we Video then the tweet now gonna we talked about on the show before shifter got the tweet out turts his ears up So no, no, we did the break on show. Oh, and then he? Before his tweet goes up. Our tweet goes out one minute out with video that had to be ripped and placed onto thing.

So technically our show broke news. But on the Twitter world, Shifty got us by 30 seconds. That bitch. I saw rap gave us credit. Yeah, because I think we did break the news. I should have done no video and then added video. Maybe next time.

Gumpi, what you do with our accounts while we're live is nothing short of remarkable. Don't you second guess yourself. You did the right thing. You did the right thing. Because we got to give proper context with the release. But the ripping of the video placing of the video uploading said video then tweeting video Is certainly the time that it took to potentially get one-minute it by Schefter but program broke news first

Boom definitely we stand on that's what counts So maybe proper credit. Mm- Are we doing journalism? Also, how about this? There was a story that was supposed to be matter of facted last week while we were at the combine, Bill Belichick and UNC they're doing this season's off season, uh, hard knocks. Congratulations to them. Everybody just fucking, yeah, just reported like this is happening. Literally just, yeah, this is happening.

They're doing it. We're going to get an inside look at Bill Belichick. People didn't start saying after every NFL team said, no, this is happening. They're doing it. We're gonna get an inside look at Bill Belichick. People then started saying after every NFL team said no, they had to go to college and they go to Bill Belichick, the greatest NFL coach of all time, as he's trying to build the future. Like full reports were happening that this is taking place.

Then we have Michael Lombardi on our show. The same exact day. He's the general manager for the North Carolina Tar Heel football team. And this is what he had to say about it. You guys have it this year, is that accurate? You guys got a great relationship with NFL films. It would make sense too,

with how a college ball is becoming pro ball at this exact time. I think there's a lot of conversations going on right now about that. I think we've had a lot of offers from people all over to have us come in and look at our program and kind of do the behind-the-scenes things I don't think anything's yet beneficial or signed to it

To make it happen. Don't let say quango who would it be? What if you had don't don't do that would be you would you be you negotiating that or who's making that? No, that would be the university and and we got to make you know when you're dealing with the university and the brand that We have at North Carolina, which is incredible You got to make sure that everything's done right, all the t's are crossed and obviously Bill has been talking to different people that contacted all of us here and and Bill's been sorting it out so. So on the program he basically says like we're definitely talking to people but this is not something that he's done. People

still just continue to say like even after he talked about that on our show okay I think we're on TV the internet we posted on digital People just kept going like didn't even happen. I didn't even say nope. They're doing it. They're doing it They're doing it just kept on just this guy didn't fucking say anything boom warrior roll by so now it's being reported in a turn of events Okay, Jonathan Jones report in a turn of events UNC football and Bill Belichick will not be participating in Hard Knocks off-season after talks break down More at NFL on CBS. We appreciate Jonathan Jones and in an article They actually use a quote from Michael Lombardi from last week whenever they're discussing this So it's not a turn of events. The actuality was they maybe were talking to him

But it was never something that was decided and the thing that I love is that that was easily something that was decided and the thing that I love is that that was easily deciphered from Michael Lombardi who's very close to the thing. You think that it's because it's from our show? You think that's what it is? Hey, do you think it's because it's from our show? We're not fucking listening to this guy? What do you think it is? Honestly.

I mean, when you hear Lambeau say nothing is signed, I would assume that's like, okay, then we don't know anything, really. Well, and also I'm saying we're talking to a lot of people. It's like, yeah, maybe there's been conversations also I'm saying we're talking to a lot of people it's like yeah, maybe there's been Conversations with NFL films, but there's been a lot of conversations and it's like everybody's just like a shot up Guys the general manager. Yeah wrong. You guys pretty much in there who you know, who's negotiating this? Well bill obviously is feeling off it, but the school was a part of it It's like okay, so you pretty know you know, it's pretty pretty well, but it was just a matter of fact that they were doing it

I was excited. Yeah, I was like pumped to get into be cool bill recruiting I'm bo wasn't the I assume Lambo didn't want any added distractions Especially after what happened with the Giants last year with the way he chit-chatted about it now He the way he's talked about is like hey your your programs on display like how you go about doing it your process He's on display, so I think he's probably confident in that but nonetheless everybody's just talking about that as that was happening and I got real excited and then Lambeau comes in like easy don't think so and then now it's like no it's like damn so the offseason hard knocks is dead yes one and done which we we we knew was probably gonna happen yeah but when we

said it we said it was some sort of joke so So mm-hmm. It's not a real thing Oh for somebody gave some good clips great take one of the sun what two deals Yeah, never forget The Giants are not recommending it to anybody you know, hey, tell me about your experience with the Hard knocks off. It's really Joe Shane looks at him. Did you fucking watch? Rude my life. Hated it. Worst case scenario. What's the worst case scenario in your eyes?

Think of that doubly. People think my kid's smarter than me now. Yeah, because the kid actually had it right. He was sitting behind me. My daughter even closer than I was. But, say I'm going to go and be player. I mean. Owner thinks I'm a liar.

Every, everything bad took place place and it was all documented and the whole world watched it. So I would say don't do it. We have some breaking news from the internet happening. The NBA Twitter account was hacked and they have gotten it back. I believe the NBA have gotten it back. The NBA has taken the game to the next level

introducing NBA coin, our official digital asset on Solana designed to enhance fan engagement and future of sports transactions So this is tweeted I guess like 50 times so some crypto boys got into the NBA Twitter account And say you know what we're gonna run this NBA coin up It's gonna be a pump and dump from the boys hoping to catch people and we would assume that NBA Twitter, okay? Which had a much better name before but it's on me to be the one that continues to bring that up. I don't think we should ever change it. It's the greatest place on Earth. The greatest place on Twitter.

Most electrifying place on Twitter. No doubt. I assume their quote tweets of that. Oh. Probably pretty good. Oh my God. Just crypto boys trying to get into the NBA. I mean. They even did an official announcement too with it. a like a letterhead and everything they did it right

Yeah, I mean the hackers are getting smart You know an AI is able to make a graphic for you quickly and we are scrolling right now There is a lot of these tweets going on with a statement official announcement. Yeah, that's crazy Genius, what's real? Hey, gotta keep your head on swivel eye Okay, not only in Starbucks because their Schultz is walking around. Mm-hmm. They literally own the place But also on the internet because anything can be fake like that flying car might be fake. We don't know Maybe it just might it's TBD Like the fire trucks real for sure

I got over the 18 wheeler that was turned sideway. That was a giveaway. I know about that. I had me up to there No, it was a drone shot. He's so cool to be able to fly 10 feet in the air and 20 feet forward That'd be really well in Miami. That's what we were talking about. That's real. It would certainly be great. Yeah this that's a cool car Sorry, yeah, sweet. Yeah, fall through the air right now. That's something all the dust We know the dust being brought up by all the force. No, yeah. It was sweet. Yeah. Flying through the air right now? That's what I'm thinking. Look at all the dust. Look at all the dust being brought up by all the force. No, that was just the weather.

That's not from the... Is that car broken down? Is that why it's flying over it or? That car was parked in a spot that it shouldn't be and wanted to alpha it. Just, you know. Go fly it. You might have the ground space.

I got the air space. Here it is. It's the real one. Well, this is the issue. First of all, tease and pees to the truck driver and the goods. Yeah, someone's dead. It's cool that That's translucent, too That one might be a rendering no

Bruce liar first you're a liar. That one might be your post out here first always on it. There's another question though Oh, so I know we probably all got a lot of us here have like the cameras in the car Yeah, sure. How did he get that? That's a good question above the head shot? I don't know, it's awesome though. It's the one. And it's, yes. I think it's a compilation of all the cameras and they just kind of bring it together to make it look like it's sweet.

We have breaking news from Adam Schefter. We did not get this one. Damn it. The Packers and kicker Brandon McBannis have reached an agreement on a three year, $15.3 million deal, including $5 million signing bonus. The deal was negotiated by Drew and Jason Rosenhouse. Congratulations to the boys.

Brandon McManus obviously had a false allegation made against him that he was found completely innocent of, but had to move to a different team. Was once a Super Bowl champion with the Broncos, goes to the Jags, everything happens there, ends abruptly, thinks his entire career and life is probably over, instead gets vindicated in the court, I believe,

from both the NFL and the actual court, ends up signing with the Packers, goes on a hell of a run with the Packers, playing winning football, and now he's getting rewarded for it. What a turn of events for Brennan McManus, the person, I would assume, over the last 12 months, but also for the Packers playing winning football and now he's getting rewarded for it. What a turn of events for Brenny McManus the person I would assume over the last 12 months, but also for the Packers you guys got a guy. That's good news time Yeah, no, I'm jacked up. I was kind of waiting for this hoping that this would happen

He I think he had like three game-winning kicks this year and it really was I mean Going back to the playoffs last year that kind of killed them against the Niners like they've needed a guy ever since Crosby left So yeah, this is huge news I love it AJ. I love Good to kids rewarding good players out there. That's the story of the day. That's right. Yep. That's it Do the right thing and get rewarded. Hell. Yeah. Yeah, that's life. That's life. Yeah, it is That's universe. They say it's science. Mm-hmm put good out good comes back. That's right That's the universe. They say it's science. Put good out, good comes back.

That's right. Put bad out, bad comes back. Bingo. Not for everybody though, it seems like. Cause there's some real piece of shit out there. Thank you. No doubt. Okay.

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