The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1301 - Osa Odighizuwa, AQ Shipley, Turki Al-Sheikh, Dana White, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the different signings that have already taken place ahead of the start of free agency, as well as a few other players that have requested trades, and they look around what else is happening in the world of sports including the NBA, college baseball, and combat sports. Joining the progrum to discuss his new massive contract, his career thus far with the Cowboys, how his high school wrestling background has set him up for success in the NFL and more is Cowboys DT, Osa Odighizuwa. Next, 12 year NFL veteran on the offensive line, Super Bowl Champion, and host of the OG In The Trenches, AQ Shipley joins the show to chat about the massive news that the Bears are trading for Chiefs Guard and one of the best offensive lineman in the NFL, Joe Thuney, what that means for both the Chiefs and the Bears, and his thoughts about the incoming class of offensive lineman. Later, Chairman of the General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia Turki Al-Sheikh, and UFC President Dana White join the progrum to chat about their new boxing venture through TKO, and how it is going to change the landscape of boxing in the future and deliver the fights people have wanted to see for a long time now. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this International Wednesday, March 5th, 2025. This program starts now. Sports are the greatest and we're lucky to talk about them every single day right here on this program. The fact that you watch, we are eternally grateful for. Now, today is International Wednesday because we got a guest on from Saudi Arabia. Wow. Okay. What? That's cool. Huh? Now, today is International Wednesday because we got a guest on from Saudi Arabia. Wow! Okay. What?

That's cool. Huh? That's a long way away. Long way away. Now, obviously that particular country has been a topic of conversation in the sports world in America over the last few years. You know, live golf obviously came in and it was its thing and then PGA was grandstanding and now PGA is doing business.

I mean, there's a lot that has happened over the last few years, especially with that country trying to catch up, it seems like, with the world. The company that I get to work with, very, very fortunate to, the company that I've been a fan of my entire life, the WWE in Saudi Arabia have done wonderful work together, not only empowering women and entertainment and showcase, but giving enough, I mean, just like the advancements of society, I think that WWE superstars who have been over there

since the first show years ago until now would tell you is like, hey, there's a big, big positive story happening here, even though everybody wants to kind of seek out the negative all the time. Now with the advancement of the relationship between WWE in Saudi Arabia and UFC in Saudi Arabia, now they have come together to create a boxing entity, a promotion, and it was announced earlier this morning that TKO will

obviously team up with Big Turkey Al-Sheikh, who is the chairman of the Islamic Solidarity Sports Federation. That's the name. Yeah. Yep. That's a long name. But nonetheless they have launched a boxing entity. I saw Dana on first take earlier today chit chatting about it talking about how he wants to save boxing. Started in boxing. He said he's been trashing boxing over the last few years. Now it's time for him to get a chance to get back in there. He said he wants the best fighters fighting the best fighters. He said we're not gonna have 15 different world champions. We're going to try to make it just, you know, one thing he's going to try to make boxing beautiful like he has done with the UFC.

Now, he obviously is going to have his detractors in the fight world and I respect that. That happens in everywhere. It's a combative sport. You know, people are going to be against each other. But I think Dana has a track record of being able to create stars, create buzz and create moments. I assume he's going to be able to do that with boxing, especially with the backing of not only Turk, uh, Turkey, but also Nick Khan and the WWE helping as a piece of this, let alone Ari Emanuel, Mark Shapiro, all the powers that be that are kind of combining to maybe save a sport, make a sport bigger than it's ever been. It's a beautiful thing. We can't wait to chit chat with, uh, Turkey and Dana in the second hour, but it's International Wednesday.

That's right. Let's go. Hey, that's, that's, uh, I don't know if our program's necessarily wanting to be doing it, but I'm telling you, things are going to come out of the combo. Hashtag journalism is going to take place and cannot wait to talk about maybe this sport of boxing. What are we betting on the younger boxers on who's going to be good and trying to create stars or using older stars? How are you going to go ahead and garner a roster and how are you going to piece together these fights? I'm excited to hear what Dana says.

And also I wanna know why TKO Group was the group that you teamed up with from Turkey because I assume there's a lot of people that wanted that deal. Big deal announced. That's gonna send, you know, stock markets. Out of doubt. That's what gonna be.

Oh yeah. I think I'm doing it. I think I'm doing it. I think I'm doing it in the influencer fight. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't know. Also in about 13 minutes or so, we have Osa Odegizua who just signed a 80 million dollar contract with the Dallas Cowboys out of UCLA. Didn't

know much about him to be honest because Dallas Cowboys conversation revolve around a lot of things other than this particular man number two in pressures last year for interior defense alignment a game wrecker and obviously Jerry Jones Steven Jones Jerry Jones Jr. in the Dallas Cowboys said we need to keep this guy here we'll store in his helmet they gave him a shit ton of money congrats to him can't wait to talk to him from what I've been told fan of the program nice knows the program okay multiple people reach out and go like hey

when Osa's deal gets done. So this was something I think that was kind of in the last week or two kind of getting done. He wants to come on the show. Would you like have him on the show? And I didn't know who the hell he was. I felt like a terrible person. I felt like such a bad person. I was like let me look him up. The guy is an absolute beast and you listen to his story. It's like what he's been able to fight through both everything. And then you think about what he was as a high school wrestler at Boston Connor, what was his records in high school? He was 46 and oh his junior year 45 And oh his senior year and he won three state three straight state championships in Oregon is a sophomore junior and senior

So that's as a wrestler and then obviously he does his thing in football now He's made 80 million dollars on a grid hour And I mean what an athletic success story cannot wait to talk to him and what the hell's going on down in Dallas Hmm. Oh, so I got a couple of questions The hell's going on down you guys giving tours around the building whenever you're in there and how do you handle it? Do you got to do the handshake? Do you got to do? Hello? Do you feel like you do got dance? That's for the people walking through your practice facility Nobody else does it

Feels like you're winning percentage get shitty Legit how everybody's trying to keep information in their building and not let any of it out Dallas Cowboys are just giving tours through their practice facility through the workouts everything like that obviously they make a lot of money It's a great business, but what is it you have to be a cowboy to be a cowboy? You don't just get dropped in there and you got a one-way mirror with a tour of ten people that paid for a ticket Watching you work out and it's just like literally your zoo exhibit, you know, that's not happening where else in the middle of season Maybe in the offseason I get sponsors to walk through middle of the season. That's not happening So I want to ask also why he feels like he's a great Dallas Cowboy, too

That should be fantastic. And then we have A.Q. Shipley joining us because there has been some massive news that has happened this morning in the NFL already and obviously I'm not alone in this particular conversation. I got a lot better brains around me but this morning Joe Clooney, absolute stud from you know fame up in the Patriots and then goes to the Kansas City Chiefs. He's an all-pro guard, a future hall of fame guard. Whenever they couldn't figure out the left tackle position, Danny said, you know what, Reid, put me out there. I'll go play tackle. Finish the season with Kansas City Chiefs as a left tackle,

even though his body says you are a guard, you're an all pro guard. Obviously they thought that the guy that filled in for him whenever he was playing tackle was sufficient enough or maybe he played Okay enough ball that we can get rid of this guy and now Chicago over the last 24 hours has invested a 20-25 six round pick hmm 2026 fourth round pick For two offensive linemen that are gonna immediately upgrade a terrible terrible position group that they had last year in Caleb Williams's first year. So if you think about these moves you think about Ben

Johnson he's coming from Detroit he's got great plays. Oh yeah. Shit doesn't work though if you don't have any protection. Bingo. Detroit Lions had one of the best offensive lines in all of ball. Oh yeah. So Jared Goff who isn't that mobile was able to do his thing. So Ben Johnson even talked about having a quarterback that can extend plays. It's the first time I've ever really done that. And people are like, that's a shot of Jared Goff. It's like, you're kind of taking it as a shot of Caleb Williams if you're trying to compare

the mobility of Caleb Williams and Jared Goff. I think if so, fact that you just took a shot of Caleb Williams for thinking that was a shot at Jared Goff because there is obviously a much better mobile quarterback than the other in Jared Goff. I'm not saying Caleb Williams is anywhere near what Jared Goff is, both breaking down a defense, anywhere near what Jared Goff is both breaking down a defense

Understanding the offense with accuracy making decisions leading a team. I'm not saying any of that What Jared Goff has done is his own thing, but Caleb is a mobile quarterback So if we get that offensive line just a little bit good and then we're able to go ahead and let Caleb cook Ben Johnson probably has these fantasies of turning the Chicago Bears team into something they've never been Zito you got to be pumped about what you're seeing. Investing in the offensive line immediately sends a good, that's a good message to me, I think. Yeah.

And to all of Chicago, like hey, first of all, probably gonna be physical in Chicago. And also, we're gonna protect Caleb and make him have an opportunity to be great. We are the kings of the offseason with the Ben Johnson area. It's been amazing. Kings of the offseason, Chicago Bears, will that transfer into the regular season? We shall see the toxic tables here at Boston Connor at

Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Cowboys. I see what you did there. Ball cap tone is here but on his ball cap it says cowboy hat. You guys cute. That's smart. That's really cute. That's a really cute play. Good for you, Tone. Wearing his cowboy hat. A lot of people saying you sold out yesterday but sold out. People forgot that you sold out to become a cowboy. You weren't ever a cowboy, became a cowboy. Now you're back to baseball cap guy,

which is inevitably a kind of slow roll into the hair. Sure. That's right. Because the hair looks good. He's found his haircut at this point. I think he's gotten a little confident. I think he's got a good shape up in there. So I think he's trying to get rid of the hat as a whole

because he would like to showcase that. Yeah, and wants to be a lettuce guy. Bingo. Wants to be a lettuce guy. Yeah. So he had to go like one step at a time, got the ball cap on, he looked good. Thank you. I appreciate that. Everybody wants to be a lettuce guy. But yeah, it is a smooth transition. I like I tweeted yesterday and you respected it. I reserve the right to put the hat back on. At any moment. Yeah. And I think anybody that's ever heard you talk ever knows that that's possible. Yeah. I will go back on anything I say. You certainly will. You certainly will. And we're proud of you for that. A nine year NFL vet,

Darius J. Butler is here. D-Butch, quick question about what the Chicago Bears are doing. How do you feel about it? I love it. This feels like the right move. Anytime I see a team investing in the trenches, even the Chargers last year, they got rid of the exterior guys, kept everybody that works on the trenches. Now are they going to be able to do that again? I don't know, but that's a message I think to everybody huge message to the locker room to the fans to anyone who follows football We always talk about the Eagles now for the last year every time we talk about this O line D line O line D line How he building up in the trenches for sure so you're doing this you want to protect your dynamic quarterback

They can do a lot of things, but we saw he was under a ton of pressure last year So protecting him from the inside out will be major. Now, it'll be interesting to see who they take in that draft. I would love to see like a Gentie or a Hampton go there and give them a legit top tier running back along with those good receivers on the outside. I think I saw Kenan Allen is a free agent. We should get on top of that. We missed that completely.

I missed that. We all did, I think. So he won't be around, but you know, they got they got Rome still got DJ like those are two commit commit yeah oh yeah tight end too legit got an offensive line now yeah you got a competent head coach yeah potentially we don't know how it's gonna be his head coach sure don't know no clue we assume he's gonna be a good head coach he's coming from a great culture and he's a great offensive coordinator now will he be a great head coach? We shall see. Great DC. I mean, they're working up there.

Are the kings of the off season. Let's go, Bears! We're back, baby! March mid. Bear Don over there. That's great stuff. More news came out of the NFL this morning out of Cincinnati.

The Cincinnati Kid, I know a lot of people are called that, but this dude, seemingly from the video that was released, grew up in Cincinnati, was a Cincinnati Bengal fan Went to Ohio State which is obviously in the state of Ohio Goes to the Bengals has the one of the biggest plays in the history of the organization Like leader captain for the Bengals like the face of Cincinnati this guy Sam Hubbard

And we all remember him from the 99 yard fourth quarter fumble recovery touchdown against the Baltimore Ravens He's announced his retirement today. So hell of a run Sam Wow, I don't think any of us expected this so I was coming obviously incredibly young I don't think we talked about this guy being like The mayor of Cincinnati enough either like I think AJ said like he's a hometown kid or whatever a couple times and maybe we Understood he's from Cincinnati But the way this video went the way the retirement video that the Bengals put out went, it was like, this guy is Cincinnati. That's a massive loss to the Cincinnati Bengals defense.

Lou Anarumo, at, Trey Hendrickson says, pay me or trade me, Sam Hubbard now retiring. I know it opens up some money potentially because the retirement money is off the books, but that's a big time loss for that Cincinnati Bengals team and city, I think. Yeah, I mean, like you see this and you just assume it. I don't think he's had like, you know,

a really injury plagued or filled career, but being from Cincinnati, going to Ohio State, like you assume, hey, if this guy can get out now while he's healthy, like he will be able to do whatever he wants to do post-career in Cincinnati, you assume, like. Any building. Yeah, exactly.

It doesn't matter what he wants to do. He is going to have a very Successful post football career so good on him. He had a hell of a career too So, you know why not good time to do it? I guess shout out him. I guess it you know Double-edged sword here the last play of his career was a touchdown which is awesome for him But he also tore his knee on that play So, you know, maybe he gets that at that 30 year old age where he doesn't know this is the touchdown you're referring to Yes, the touchdown. What a catch comes off athlete I don't think I don't think you realize he tore his knee here

And yes comes off onto the sideline and they're talking about or whatever and that's his last play as a Cincinnati Bangle But that's awesome. I like I wonder you know if there was any pressure on like a we need before free edges It would be great. You know, like there may be Sam Hubbard, the Cincinnati kid was like, I'll get this answer to you guys as soon as possible. I don't want to hold up any other opportunities for you. I mean, he had a great productive career. I like when guys leave on their own terms. And like Ty said, it's not like, you know, the future is bright.

I didn't know him to be banged up a ton. Obviously, you got the major injury to end his career. But you know, I like when I see guys leaving the game on their own terms. Okay, let's talk about people that are still in the game People have noticed the Saquon Barkley contract more specifically running backs have noticed the Saquon. Oh, yeah contract let James Cook of Buffalo said oh, ain't that nice? What's going on here? Wait a minute. We're getting forty-some million now again. Whoa how the tides have turned Wow, is it nice to be a running back who's potentially on the market and also

Can catch the ball mm-hmm get run hard whatever they put the offense more in his hands. Everything got better Stats great. Everybody loves him. Everybody loves I think he's just quiet go about doing his work Obviously, he's known the NFL lifestyle for a long time because who his older brother is at the exact same position I mean you're talking about a guy that's ready to you know see some dollars when just a couple years ago the running back market was absolutely nothing D-Bud. Yeah we've been talking about the running back revolution and when the money you know money and the draft picks when that starts to follow that's when you know it's changing it's kind of going full circle.

So yeah this guy had 20 touchdowns last year on an offense on a team where Josh Allen obviously takes a bunch of those touchdowns just like Jalen Hurts does in Philly with Saquon with their version of a touch push but yeah James Cook is due a ton of money obviously Saquon and Christian McCaffrey is them and it's a big gap with the other backs. But this is a guy that I can see filling that gap, jumping up in probably that third position. Yeah, you know Brandon Bean hates this, it's probably wicked annoying for him.

But also, you know, he's so good at drafting running backs. I assume, you know, Ray Davis being great might hurt him a little bit. But yeah, James Cook in the pass game, it feels like that's kind of the separator now. Screens. Between, yeah, those 20 million guys, those screens, those, you yeah, James Cook in the pass game. It feels like that's kind of the separator now. Screens. Between, yeah, those 20 million guys, those screens, those wheel routes, like I can remember,

it might have been against the Dolphins actually, where it was a fourth down, and the play is to James Cook, and it's literally just him lining up on the right, sprinting left, catching a pass, and going 20 yards for a touchdown. So it does feel like now that is, if you can't catch the ball very

efficiently and you're not involved in the pass game then you know a number like this might not be real but for you know those James Cooks some of those other guys Gibbs, Bijon, Kyron like that is a real number now for everybody. Money team Ed Barry by the way congrats. Say Kwon congratulations you earned that brother running all over the place during the AFC championship after James Cook had that incredible touchdown his brother Davin Cook tweeted actually quote tweeted and said 20 million a year bag emoji Okay, so Davin Cook's been watching the market pretty close I would I would assume speaking of the market it changed just the other day down in Dallas a man signed an 80 million dollar deal Same man undefeated his junior and senior year in high school wrestling.

Hell yeah. 45 and 0 and 46 and 0. I went to UCLA, ladies and gentlemen, I want to make sure I get this right. And I probably- Will. Yeah. Yeah, I got faith. Will.

Damn right. Ladies and gentlemen, Dallas Cowboys D Tackle, Osa Odegazua. Yeah. Osa. Osa. You got it. That was perfect. Is that Nigerian? Is that uh, is that Nigerian?

Yeah. Okay, so I feel like we've learned with the internationalism of sports coming in, I feel like I have learned the traits of each country's name. You know, like Polynesian names, you know you kind of start to get that.

Nigeria names becoming big in football, I think, and in sports as a whole, starting to learn a little bit. So I want to let you know, I am so pumped that I got that right. Like I would like to let you know you've earned that. Obviously you are and should feel respected, especially with everything you've accomplished. Let's talk about the deal.

This has been something that's been in the works for the last couple of weeks, I would assume. And whenever you find out that you're about to get life altering money, what is your first thought whenever you're being told about it? You know, family, that's like the whole reason why I play this game without my family, my mom, my older brothers that's paved the way.

You know what I mean? And a lot of people just pouring into me and sacrificing for me to get to this point. Can't help but think about them when it's time to reap such a big reward like that. You know, some life changing money. It's not just life changing for me, it's just for my family. And what we're going to be able to do is is is uh amazing so yeah it's generational brother generational like think about that the whole family changes because your hard work because of how you played as a dallas cowboy thus

far let's talk about playing for the dallas cowboys we've learned over the last couple of years there's tours going through your facility. Is that accurate or how much are we blowing that out of proportion? What is it like to be a Dallas Cowboy? I feel like the tours get blown out of proportion a little bit like they're just kind of like walking through common areas They'll look at some of the pictures on the wall upstairs. They're never like in our meeting rooms while we're there They're never like in the locker room while we're there and they're never in the weight room while we're there. They're never like in the locker room while we're there. And they're never in the weight room while we're there. Like they're just like walking through. So I don't mind people just walking through and looking, it's a beautiful building, make money off of it.

You know what I mean? And it's not getting in the way of us getting the work done. Do you feel like, do you feel like you have to be a Dallas Cowboy to play well for the Dallas Cowboys? Does that make sense? Like, is there some people that aren't fit or cut out potentially to be a Dallas Cowboy?

We're on prime time every single week. There's going to be chatter about your team regardless of what happens and when it doesn't go well obviously it's going to be louder than anywhere else. Do you feel like you have a crew of guys in there that love that about being a cowboy and do you think there is a special trait to playing for Jerry Jones's team? I would say not a different trait that's like from playing with other people's teams. There's a ton of talent on our team, top to bottom. I feel like we're definitely one of the more talented teams.

That was something that was obvious to me when I came through. I'm like, there was a lot of guys that were just starter caliber dudes. And that's part of the reason why we did lose a lot of people is just because like the depth like when I came in and in a 2021 it was insane so I think that was definitely the hallmark and just and finding guys that can get it done on the field and dogs you know what I mean in terms of dealing with all the pressure and like the noise I don't think it's something that anyone really minds. Everyone is more interested in football and playing football than the outside

noise. I see people that do use the platform really well to like make money off of the field and kind of use that for marketing and I'm like more power to you. That's just one of the benefits of being a cowboy. I think that's the added cherry on top for sure. Like this is one of the like best markets that you could be in. Yeah and if you look at Joe and Troy and then Tony and Jim, I mean and Witton got in there without even trying it before. It was in Monday Night Football. It's like being a Dallas Cowboy you become a superstar. You can also do a lot of good for the world with that platform with her. I think a lot of Cowboys have done, including you. I've just, I just got it sent through to me about the inaugural Digazoa Foundation Gala, which your foundation

helps support single mothers from what I've quickly learned and read. How did you, when did you start this? And why was this what you decided to go with? Started this after my rookie year in 2022, Because my mom, she's a single mother, she raised me and my three older brothers by herself. And, you know, I just know being at this point in my life, being in a position to give back and help people and change lives is a blessing in and of itself. So, and we didn't get here alone. So, just being able to kind of be that same hand reaching back out, helping people climb up, lift people up and pay it forward is super important. Something that me, my

mom is very heavily involved with, my brothers are involved with, something that we can do as a family to be able to give back and pay it forward. Hell yeah, Osa. Hell yeah, bro. Sounds like you got a badass mom helping out a bunch of other badass moms. That's an amazing thing. Way to give back, brother. Way to use the platform of the Dallas Cowboys to make the world a better place.

You talked about all the talent that you have on your team, and obviously you said that we all like ball more than all the other stuff. A guy who gets shit talked a lot, but he's so talented. So so talented. You talked about all the talent that you have on your team and obviously you said that we all like ball more than all the other stuff. A guy who gets shit talked a lot, but he's so talented. So, so talented. Game changer, game wrecker. Micah Parsons. What is it like being teammate of him,

being on the same D line as he and watching him kind of work day to day and maybe even grow as a professional here throughout his last few years with the Dallas Cowboys? It's been awesome to see, you know what I mean? He just kind of... Micah goes hard on the field and he goes hard off the field. He's 100% with everything that he does, you know?

And I got to respect it. And some people could feel like it kind of conflicts a little bit, but I just feel like he's trying to maximize every avenue and all the potential that he has and all aspects and just being like a well-rounded person, you know what I mean? So I can't ever really knock that. I'm like bro go get what you deserve man, like you're really doing it. Yeah, absolutely. He is and on the field he is absurd. You talk about the amount of talent you guys have as you said that I started thinking about your defense It's like yeah, so much time. Yeah, uh-huh prime time literally prime time players all over the place this last year

Doesn't go how you want obviously injuries happen and everything happens throughout a season What's mindset going into next year? Obviously new coaching staff knew everything seemingly Yeah Yeah, um, that's a lot of change, but that's just the nature of the business. Like change is, is going to happen. You can't stop it. Nothing is going to be the same, whether it be the locker room, 30% turnover, like, or coaching staff, you know, or any, anybody on the staff, just because there's, these are some of the most sought after jobs in the world.

So, you know, just that. But with regards to our team and Shadi putting together the staff that he has, I'm liking what I'm hearing. I haven't heard anything but good things about Fluss talking to him. He's a good dude. Excited to work with him. He's a good dude Excited to work with him white cotton heard a lot of good things about him from people that have played under him and people that Have worked with him and talking to him as well. I'm pretty excited to get to work Okay We're all excited to see the Cowboys the next iteration of the Dallas Cowboys all the talent all the TV time and I got a Chance to watch shot he work in Indianapolis

So I'm very happy for him like he is worked his ass obviously. He grew up in it with his dad and his family Obviously he's a football family had an opportunity to be a head coach like what 15 years ago or something like that Then he becomes assistant coach puts in the work puts in the hours travels around the league learns develops I'm happy for him. Everybody shit on him though. That's Dallas Cowboys. That's Dallas Cowboys football That's that's how it works like with whenever you're wearing the star now We have a couple questions for you from the boys if that's okay con man first Yeah, oh so we read online that you were 91 and oh in wrestling your junior and senior year of high school combined And of course you won three state championships along with that record

Is that huge when it comes to you know your game, especially being on the inside? And are we maybe looking at a WWE run after your career? It definitely, definitely I can credit my wrestling career with a lot of football success and just shaping me mentally to be the person that I am today. But no, you will not catch me doing any WWE. Don't rule it out. Don't rule it out. Come on. And not to disrespect the WWE, I just know it's not actual wrestling.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. You're going to get suplexed. You're going to get suplexed.

That was so good. Incredibly impressive, incredibly entertaining. The acrobatics in the ring, the effort that it takes to be a WWE wrestler is insane. You just probably wouldn't catch me doing any of that stuff. Tell that to Chick Magnet Punk. Yeah, you need to watch that. And also, Braun Breaker is going to spear you.

You need to watch it, let alone if our tribal chief heard what was happening here. But nonetheless, talk about the wrestling a little bit. 91 and 0. Was that a, I mean, obviously football worked out very well for you, but like that you're a dominant, were they saying like, gold medalist. We should think about maybe like what was the conversation wrestling after you go 91 and 0, your junior and senior year of high school with three state titles. Offers.

Yeah, exactly. The offers had to be everywhere. I definitely have a couple of offers for wrestling. I knew I wanted to play football though. A lot of other people knew I wanted to play football as well. I committed to UCLA pretty early too. So you know, when, when that happens, they typically kind of were not, well, they save their energy just like, yeah, um, he's pretty pretty he's pretty heavily committed to go into that school So just kind of ends the recruiting before it begins. I'm not even gonna lie

Some of these wrestling coaches need to get in there and start selling Saving was both if Nick Saban was the heck exactly if Nick Saban was head coach one of these places Hey, listen, buddy get you on a Mac get you on the field You need to do let's go ahead and make sure this happens. You're a special elite. 91 and 0. Absurd. Were these actual humans or are they just dummies that they're rolling out there? This was 91. 91?

Now you do wrestle some of the same people twice, but that's kind of like with any high school wrestling. You know you have your people that will pop up commonly at tournaments and stuff. But yeah, you're actual people Is this you yeah cheese Running away Right now cutting down trees maybe up there. Oh, yeah, you had to play this. Oh my god Is there any other highlights you beat 91 other? Yeah, come on back control in the three in the three has tech fall right there

They actually do a video a lot of the stuff a lot of my highlights are at nationals I think that's what mattered anyway is because I won Fargo twice for freestyle chase So second and third and Greco those back-to-back years and they reported every match so I feel like that That's the one that's like you can go on YouTube and find those that's enough for me they captured the big one. Shout to the dog what type of dog do we have? That's a Yorkie his name is Charlie. Hey baby Chuck. Hi Charlie. Hey baby Charlie. Way to go Charlie. Your dad's a menace on the mat. Hey did you use that head as a weapon every time? You just moved that guy's entire body with like a headbutt onto his chest.

And do you roll it all anymore? Do we get out there anymore? I don't roll anymore. I do boxing in the off season now. Head position is definitely one of those things that you need to be cognizant of in wrestling, wrist control. You know what I mean? Just wear your heads at and just, and controlling that tie.

So- Do you have no helmet, no ear covers on either? You're not wearing any ear? No. You got- You don't wear headgear for freestyle. You got a cauliflower ear? No, sir.

You're not getting taken down a whole lot. No way. These ears are touching much. Yeah. It's all, okay. Let's get back to football could you imagine accidentally shown up at a high school wrestling meeting this guy's no school Just go home There is some stories cuz you know those dads bro Those dads that just like to like talk a lot of trash for their kid like oh, I don't know one time

I was at camp and he was just like, yeah, I remember my son beats you at a Reno. I was like, I actually won that tournament. Who's your son? And he shows me this kid. I'm like, I've never, I've never wrestled this kid a day in my life. He's like, no, I'm pretty sure like you wrestled him and he beats you. I'm like, bro, where are you like, this is someone's dad. Mind no, I'm pretty sure like you wrestled him and he beat you. I'm like, bro, where you like this is someone's dad. Mind you, I'm in high school. We just have this back and forth. Like, bro, what are you talking about?

Yeah. And then I actually did wrestle his son and I like looked at him. I'm going to pin this kid. No. What if you lifted him up like it was WWE? Yeah. Let me lift this thing up one more time looking at the dad. What a moment.

That'd feel so good just knowing that you just ragdoll whoever. And then you should have called the dad in next. Hey, come on 45. Round two. Come on 50 year old talking shit to a high schooler. What a time. That was hilarious. Stuff like that doesn't happen all the time, but it's there. Like you get things that happen like that at the tournaments

there's a little drama and stuff like that. But for the most part, I feel like wrestling culture is pretty cool. Everyone's like, everyone's pretty, pretty respectful. Great sport, like legit. You talk about commitment and discipline and the amount of work ethic and failure and like battling through pain and like, are you hurt? Are you injured?

I mean, it's a great so they try to get rid of it just a few years back, right? Wasn't they gonna at the Olympic? It was no longer Olympic sport and I thought it was gonna disappear or whatever and then like any wrestler you've ever met like Just know that they're built different than you in high school whenever you were just going home or whatever They were in garbage bags running from school to their home back to the school and then if they Didn't lose enough weight. They're spitting and running that lap again or those miles It's like the wrestlers are different animal you see that cauliflower here you back up and I said if you see yeah Oh, so do you let's not get in there start talking shit about?

the football shall we Yeah, you're at the point your career now where, and it happens quick, you know, now you're going to be one of the OGs, one of the guys that's going to be, a younger guy is going to look to for game or guidance. Who was that or who were those people that kind of helped you and helped you learn your craft? I know you went to, had a lot of battles in the interior with Zach Martin, one of the best guards we've seen, but who were those guys, either offensively or defensively, that kind of helped you the most with your craft? Definitely, you know, when I came in, leaned on D-Law a lot, just kind of looking at him

and how he works, how he plays, you know, just like that dog, just the extent that he goes to, just always finding the football always he could be on the backside of the play and he's gonna end up in that frame at the end of the play and just watching watching him you know just get after it is very inspiring and then being in the company of Randy Gregory as well and and just watching how they work and how, you know what I mean? Just, it's hard to explain, bro.

But you can just see when you watch it, bro. There's just animals just attacking constantly. So having that be the standard when we came in and just that dog mentality, that was definitely something that I feel like I leaned into a little bit. And it goes with my play style as well, being a hire for guy, you know? That's definitely something that I feel like I leaned into a little bit and it goes with my play style as well being a higher for guy.

So I feel like that was something that I was able to just walk into what they accepted me and we were able to have a lot of fun my rookie year. In terms of competition, Zack Martin, Tyron Smith, that was kind of like my welcome to the league. Going against those boys, there was one time I could have swore I beat Zach's hands on a swipe. And then when I went back and watched the film, I'm like, yo, I don't even know how

he did that. Like he's back in front of me and I just won, I swear. But I didn't win because he just recovered and locked me back up. So I was like, dang, and then taking that, uh, that punch from Tyron for the first time. And I'm like, if I never have to play him again, I don't think I'll ever get punched that hard in my life. Sternum? And it's just, bro, if he catches you anywhere, like you're going to feel it.

Yeah. Big man. Even in the walkthrough, all these dudes have such big minutes. I assume you do as well, but these massive frying pans just like getting out you're gonna feel it. Yeah. Big mitts. Even in the walkthrough. All these dudes have such big mitts. I assume you do as well. But these massive frying pans just like getting out there. The offensive linemen are an absurd specimen. I think if it was to be studied with how big they are first, what they have to do backing up and all that.

But D linemen are the, I mean at the combine here, we're watching these massive dudes run these ridiculous times. You just said you're a high effort guy, high motor guy, you know, first one in, last one out lunch pail guy, surprising athlete guy, hard hat guy. That is, that is what they, they say about you. Is that, is that an accurate depiction or how would you describe your play? Just relentless? That's, that's definitely accurate. And in terms of just the way I work and the process that I have a lot of that comes from my older brother.

You know I'm one of the people that's blessed to have someone or that was blessed to have someone like before me coming through the league and telling me this is what you need to be doing, this is what you need to focus on, take care of your body, take care of your body, take care of your body, take care of your body, take care of your body. So, I'm just having him in my corner and in my ear as I was coming up through UCLA. I feel like that's probably my biggest professional influence and people could tell you as well, not to toot my own horn, but I carry myself like a pro

since I've been in college and that's the reason why. So what's that mean? We're dieting, we're on time, we're working out extra, we're doing all the extra stuff, carry myself like a pro since I've been in college and that's the reason why. So what's that mean? We're dieting, we're on time, we're working out extra, we're doing all the extra stuff like literally because of seeing how it's done to make it to the next level that is kind of how you've carried yourself? Indeed. What is the diet?

What's the diet? What's the diet? I mean the diet wasn't anything crazy in college but like as you go through combine and pre-draft prep they're just telling you stay away from added sugar we had meal prep and everything like that so i like to just you know avoid added sugar make sure i'm eating like home cooked foods like real stuff not anything processed try and limit fried stuff nothing crazy but you know just working out you like chicken parm and eating home cooked You like chicken parm? And eating home cooked meals, bro.

Chicken parm, chicken parmesan, home cooked. Fasolis? Fasolis? You ever have beef? Hey, rice and stew. Rice and stew? I don't know, nothing about, nothing against chicken parm, but my mom's rice and stew, I would say that's like the classic, and if I could eat that every day, I'd be probably in just as good shape right now.

What is this stew made of? Because that's made of different, what's the liquid in the stew? It's like a tomato-based stew. There's a lot of different seasonings in it as well. My mom does a lot of stuff organic. She like dehydrates the tomatoes, grinds them up, uses them as a powder.

Like she gets- She's in there rude dude. Wow. And then I see some of the spices that she's been using since she was a kid. She can make Nigerian food in her sleep. So it's a tomato base, but it's just the flavor of it.

It's hard for me to explain. I don't know how to cook it. I don't eat it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. So is that Nigerian food? A lot of spices, tomato based, of it it's hard for me to explain i don't know how to cook it so is that nigerian food a lot of spices tomato based stuff like what is nigerian food is that the the bucket that's not that that's just that's just rice and stew and then you got jalo rice again don't know how to cook it. But it's so good. Fufu and a goosey, that one is like a seed based stew with like

a leafs, cheeses, spinach or like- There's somebody in the back saying don't tell the white about Fufu and a goosey. No, my mom gave it away. Yeah, don't be telling them. Don't be telling them. That's awesome. But not. Yeah, bro, she's doing her thing. That's awesome. But not, yeah bro, she doing her thing.

That's why we're so big. A lot of pound of yam, you know? Pound of yam. A lot of goat, beef, chicken. You name it. So if you notice that Nigerians have a certain size to them, the diet is 100% responsible for that. Who was the D tackle from Louisville? One into the NFL like age 19 or something. You remember him? Yeah, played against him a bunch.

Was he is that Nigerian? Is he Nigerian? It was like 19 20 when he got drafted too. Yeah because I think he got to college as like a 16 or 17 year old and was playing D tackle and it was just like Yeah, because I think he got to college as like a 16 or 17 year old. It was playing D tackle. Yeah. And it was just like dominating. I think that was my first, because that was our era. Yeah. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, what the, what is this?

Strongest guy of all time. Then he gets drafted to the NFL. He's like 19 years old. No problem. Goes in there. That's because he had Fufu and Agusi. That D lineman too is crazy. Fufu and Agusi.

Yep. What's that? What's Fufu and agusi. Yup. What's that? What's fufu and agusi? Fufu is that pounded yam that I was talking about. You can eat that with, you can have it with stew too, but like fufu you typically eat it with agusi, but that's pounded yams. I'm gonna sound so cool when I get it in Nigeria someday.

Swap, I'll take some fufu and agusi please. Oh yeah. Agusi is the soup that you eat it with. Oh, of course, yeah. What is that soup? so cool when I get in Nigeria someday. Swap, I'll take some fufu and a goosey please. Thank you. A goosey is the soup that you eat it with. Oh, of course, yeah. What is that soup? Is that a tomato base as well, or what type of soup is that? No, that's the one that's like seed, seed based.

Like you grind up seeds and then you have like spinach or some, I'm spacing out on exactly what it's called. I'm kind of Americanized. Yeah. But. Put a little bit of salt in there. You know what it is. That's awesome.

Nah, like, bro. Okay. So good. Okay. It's like a seed and leaf based. Okay. I don't know where we'll find it. We will definitely try it before the end of the week.

Where are you at? Indianapolis. I don't know. Might be tough. I don't know. Might be tough. I don't know. I was gonna say, if you said LA, I could tell you a spot. It's in Nigeria.

Is there really? In Indianapolis, in Indiana. And Nigeria, that means there's, I assume there's a grocery store of some sort. Yes. Okay, so we'll make this happen. All right, we won't be able to cook it as well as your mom, obviously.

But we will certainly. Nah, definitely not. You guys gotta come here for that, but. Okay, on the table. We've been invited. we will certainly definitely now you guys got to come here for that but okay on the table we've been invited I've heard I've heard people that have had Nigerian food from their teammates on other teams tell me that my mom cooks the best Nigerian food they've ever had hands down three multiple reports okay so I don't have to go to Nigeria either then I just go there and I'll be able to draw off the list I had an actual great night the best of all time. Thank you for the invite. I love that

We have a couple more questions. Is that okay? Yeah, heard your mom's in the room, by the way tell her we said we can't wait to eat her foo foo and a goosie And the mom mom they said they can't wait to try your food. Oh, please Let her know I know rice and stew. I know they come on over tell her Mom? They said they can't wait to try your food. Oh, please. Let her know I know. Rice and stew, I know. I said come on over. Tell her I can't wait for the rice and stew,

the fufu and the goosey. He said all of it, the rice and stew, fufu and the goosey, jalapeño rice, everything. Yeah, put me over with her. Yeah, I forgot about the fries there. She thinks now I know. She said answer you. Boom.

Can't wait. Okay, we have a couple more questioners. What a time. OK. I can't wait for this night. How many people can come? Do we need a? All right, we'll get to that later.

We'll get to that later. We'll talk to mom. We'll see what's all poppin'. Funny thing about the way she cooks, she pretty much cooks strictly in bulk. Nice. Once again, that goes back to the sides. Yeah, perfect.

Of the, yeah, OK. Ty has a question for you, Osa. Yeah, Osa, you mentioned the perception of the Cowboys just kind of as a whole. What's your relationship like with Jerry Jones? Like have you had very many interactions with him? And what do you think one of the most common misconceptions is about him? We talk about people, you know, talking shit about the Cowboys and him in general. Like what would you say to people who think they know Jerry Jones? I haven't had too many interactions with him either. I'm not going to lie, not a ton.

He's a busy guy. He comes in the locker room quite a bit. I shook his hand a bunch of times. I know that he loves the game of football. So one thing that people might have messed up about him is that he's caught up in a lot of the other stuff based on like marketing and money. I don't think that there's a doubt in my mind that Jerry loves the game of football. Got it.

Loves the Cowboys too, right? I mean, this guy obsessed with the Cowboys. I think that's always the message that we get from the Cowboys people is like, these fans love the Cowboys. They certainly do. Jerry loves the Cowboys and loves the football more than anything incredible actor too though can't rule that out going forward did you see him in landmines I saw that I saw that that clip you ever get that you ever give you that one of those speeches legit and you also I've been

watching you is he doing those sit down each game definitely got Gotten better over the over the last couple years so I think he's been secretly taking some acting classes or something like that or and just maybe Got got that clip and did a great job. Okay, so we started this conversation about the 80 million dollar deal and say congratulations What is your first thought whenever you hear? You're gonna get life-changing money you think about your family. What are we doing? What's the first move here? We're getting food for the goosey for a tire time. We're doing rice and stew. What is the Celebration of the new contract and also cool story

We're learning about here You were the same tank top when you first signed with the Cowboys and then whenever you signed your 80 million dollar deal tank top when you first signed with the Cowboys and then whenever you signed your 80 million dollar deal Obviously you look very similar haven't aged a bit But the beard in the hair the hang time certainly got a little bit longer and the arms are much larger. That's cool That's cool moment for you. I assume as it happens and what's the first move now? What are we doing with the first move? Like with the money, yep. Yep new tank top. No same thing. I mean That was just You know, that was just me being funny the money. Yep. Yep. New tank top. No, same thing. I mean, that was just, you know, that was just me being funny. But I mean, for sure, getting some new clothes, not the first move

that's just been happening. So I've been in the league. I'm a clothes guy. It's not gonna stop. Are you a super fashion guy? I didn't know that. I wouldn't say super fashion guy, but I'm very much into fashion Okay, so you look around other leagues you say you see Tyrese Halliburton you go You know what that guy's costumes pretty good that guy's game day costumes pretty good Jamar chase Joey burrow you looking around at those or Travis Kelsey shows up in some great fits Are you looking at stuff like that? What are you wearing? Are you what? What is your go-to? We wearing great? Pants glasses are we a glasses guy? What is the go-to?

Definitely shades probably with every fit that I've ever worn to a game to be honest There's there's probably a handful of times where I don't wear glasses As far as my fits I'm a past guy As far as my fits, I'm a pants guy. It's hard for me to explain. I like unique stuff. Loud. We're going loud shit. A lot of different kinds of stuff.

I can pinpoint like exactly one style that I go with. Layered. Layered fashion is probably my favorite. Who? Layered? We're wearing four? We got a couple different pop callers. How about, have you, I didn't know you were the one that lent this jacket to Tyrese Halliburton. That was yourered? We're wearing four. We got a couple different pop callers. How about have you uh I didn't know

you were the one that lent this jacket to Tyrese Halliburton. That was your jacket. Oh nice. That you gave to Tyrese right there. This is your jacket. Yeah. It's uh you know I don't even know how this got out cuz I told him I wasn't gonna say anything to anybody. You know. Enjoy it all man. Enjoy it all. We appreciate you so much for joining us. You've earned this. Obviously, we can't wait for the Nigerian meal. And we're excited for that. That has to happen. And we hope mom understands that we are expecting that to take place.

I got you. That's gonna be about 10 million in that email because we're here. We want to take home fix it I can hear you so bro oh okay he's on he's on he's on ladies and gentlemen oh so the zoo foo foo and a goosey I cannot wait to hear how I use that this guy thinks life is all just eating foo foo and a goosey and drink I can't wait I bet you it's really good you gotta use it we got me in Nigeria and WWE superstars um, I think we did uh, I Don't know so I had a Jamaican teammate and obviously the oxtail. Oh, yeah, that is that's experience. That's a good night

Oh, yeah, whatever it's like, you know actual and it's great delicious. That's why as he was describing all that thing I'm like that sounds like a great night like that really did now they would have to be welcoming Oh sure, and it would have to want it to be a great night sound like they do absolutely I heard mom in the back going okay rice and soup we got a food Jello fries is that what he said Jello Jello Jello Jello fries. Yeah, okay. I can't wait for that I got broken off. We didn't know much about him. You know and Omos okay, Omos is, once again, size. Yeah, there you have it.

He's big SOB. He eliminated me from, he eliminated me from Royal Rumble. Him and Brawn Breakers. I realized quickly I didn't want to be in there at that time. Had my cowboy boots on. High IQ. Osa Odegazua. $80 million deal.

Dog. Jerry Jones and Dallas Cowboys love that guy. Yeah. And him being 91 and 0 junior senior year of wrestling and everything like that. I can't wait to learn more and watch. I can't wait to watch him. Yeah. I can't wait to watch him. The name is awesome. Okay there was some news obviously that broke this morning running NFL in the offensive line position. Joe Tooney of the Kansas City Chiefs formerly of the Patriots has been traded to the Chicago Bears.

This comes less than a day after Jonah Jackson was traded to the Chicago Bears, also an offensive lineman. Joining us, offensive lineman specialty guru, A.Q. Shipley. A.Q. Shippley. A.Q. Shippley, are you wearing a sweatband? I just got done working out Hansey. Okay, so you're working out Hansey. Obviously he is a private instructor. Is that a sweatband on your hand or what is that? QB wrist? No Design okay Yeah, I would never put that one on but I understand that you have no decision in that that's just game game day stuff and

Obviously it breathes good. So whenever you're working out Hanesie life is good Let's talk about these other linemen. Let's talk about these offensive linemen Joe Tooney all pro guard Probable Hall of Fame guard whenever it's all said and done with his career He goes out to tackle last year puts a left up because they weren't able to figure it out He says you know what? I'm the best offensive line Men on this offensive line. I think that I can do this They were trying to figure it out. They couldn't they move him out there Somebody else comes in a guard and I talked to you earlier you said they probably thought that he was sufficient enough even though they're gonna

Have to upgrade everywhere at that offensive line and with no guaranteed money as soon as they tagged Trey you knew this was gonna happen What does this mean for the Kansas City Chiefs? And what does this mean for the Bears you think with a? Massively talented player at a very important position in 2025 NFL getting moved today? It's an interesting move because Tune is coming up on 10,000 snaps. He's one of the best guards of this generation, played in six Super Bowls at this point and he was the rock piece left guard for them right and if you look at him here I mean he's unbelievable he's pulling, opens up the scene, you look at him here, I mean, he's unbelievable. He's pulling Opens up the scene but check goes great

but I mean listen at the end of the day what to any brought to that team was experience and you can't buy experience and the Biggest issue with the Kansas City Chiefs over the last couple years is they have not been able to solve their offensive line So now they're going with inexperience or I've been reading a lot on the internet that they're gonna move Kingsley the left tackle who got benched early in the Seed and they're gonna try him in at left guard So now you take a guy who's never played guard and you're gonna move him into Left guard which is probably one of the most important positions on the offensive line So you take ten years of experience ten thousand career snaps multiple Super Bowls all

Pro status and you're gonna replace him with a guy who's never played there before I think it's an interesting move Okay, so it sounds like you are against the move. There was a contract situation with Tony had no guaranteed money I think next year so they're gonna figure that out in Chicago We would assume what's right for guard top guard right now And is that potentially what the Chiefs are looking to do are they looking to get younger so they can get cheaper and when you talk About maybe the tackle going in, so is that Mackay-Beckton, right? Maybe they think that what happened when Mackay

in Philadelphia could potentially happen there, or what do you think the answer is for the Chiefs? I think the answer is what they're doing, right? Like, I think they're screwed cap-wise. I mean, they're paying Mahomes, they're paying Chris Jones, they're paying guys, you know, kind of all over the place, and they're kind of in a little bit of cap-hell. So they're able to sit there and look at what my homes is able to do with a less than stellar

Supporting cast at times. They just gave Trey Smith 24 in a franchise tag I assume they're gonna try and work out some type of deal and lower that cap number just like the eagle just did Let's say one Barkley But you know when you look at it you look at Trey Smith at 24 you look at Tooney going on the other side of 30 now, you got to stick with Trey Smith, who's the younger player, and he's a dog, and he's one of the best players in all of football on the offensive line, right? So you got to stick there. You would have hoped they would have been able to keep Tooney and try and figure out

through the draft, the tackle position. They were not able to do that, so now they got to just kind of keep, you know, mixing and matching and hoping for the best. But I don't I see them in a position where they've been in the last couple years where they're just trying to find that piece and they're gonna be stuck. You're thinking they're band-aiding a problem that is maybe a much bigger issue obviously they get Trey Smith in for at least another year or for long term and he is a dog it's great seeing him Creed as well. Yep. He is the centerpiece but got to figure out those two outside pieces or none of it matters if they can just collapse a pocket

No matter how magical my homes is which is a level of magic that we haven't seen on a football field It doesn't matter if you can't do anything and it doesn't show up till it shows up and this year It was at the Super Bowl. There was a lot of spots throughout the season, but they won they won they won Then they get to the Super Bowl, they lose, they get their asses beat, and the offensive line is the problem. It's happening against Tampa. Whenever you became a Super Bowl champion,

I'm excited to see what Veatch and Reid do on the other side. SpowTrak is projecting that Tony will get a two year, $41 million deal at guard for the Bears. They bring in he and Jonah Jackson. What does this mean from the Chicago Bears? You have to love this from Ben Johnson and polls Listen Ben Johnson was able to see firsthand what you do With the team when you build through the offensive line in Detroit, and here's the thing

He also knows what Jonah Jackson can do at guard Let's not look at last year what Jonah Jackson did and got benched out in LA They bring him in they try and move him in from guard to Center But Jonah Jackson two years ago at guard was an ass kicker. There he is kicking the guy out I mean listen, he if you go back and look at his 2023 tape He's incredible at guard and then you bring in toony you just solidify the guards. They've drafted well at tackle the only position they got to solve a center and if you can get that through the draft or I think they Still got a lot of money to spend they can go get a guy like a Drew Dorman a Robert Haynes who's out there

That's a good plug right there Started this and I just got done working out with Hainsey who's available looks great Looks great good work great the workout today. I just got in last night So today was our first day with them, but he's ready to rock and roll. A lot of teams were interested in him out at the, out at the combine. So he's available boys. Okay.

Speaking of that available centers and shout out to Hansey. Good luck. And we, we should have known. Yeah, of course. Hey, success rate on the private training session is good. Pretty good. Good for business. Okay. For the old shipyard, you know,

people want to come through the shipyard when success is on the other side, let's make sure we're flushing the toilets this year. You know, people want to come through the shipyard when success is on the other side. Let's make sure we're flushing the toilets this year. Connor has a question for you about available offensive linemen in center. Yeah, AQ, did you see anything at the combine? Did you watch anything at the combine about these offensive linemen? Obviously, right now there isn't really a bona fide stud. I believe the kid from Missouri is kind of flying up a lot of people's boards.

But how do you feel about this O-line class? And do you think it's one where we will get a few more absolute studs in the NFL this year? Yeah, I think this this class, I mean, just looking through, I just started diving deep into the film a little bit and started hitting the top prospects. The kid from Missouri is a stud, right? Like, athletically, he's a stud. It matches up with what he puts on tape. He's got to clean up some technique stuff. He's a little raw reminds me of the kid for Sean who from Penn State last year. Super talented, super physical strong as hell athletic as hell. You just got to clean up his feet and can't get away with the same things you're able to in college at the pro level. When you look

at the most NFL ready guy I'm thinking it's banks from Texas. I love him. We talked about him earlier in the fall con man. And you know, I think Will Campbell, I think has the ability to be very good. He's athletic, he's big, he's strong, but shorter arms, like you just said, I don't think that's obviously, you know me with short arms, I don't give a shit. We playing with phone booths,

but at the end of the day, when you look at Will Campbell, I think he struggles a little bit against the bull rush. I looked at the best rushers he went against in the SEC and he struggled a little against the bulls. So he's got to get a little bit more stout, but he has all the makings to be pretty damn good. How often is that the case for a rookie coming into the NFL? You got adults now bringing a little bit more power, you develop into that?

Is that something you grow into normally? Yeah it is. I mean listen I think you know 10 years ago, 15 years ago it was an emphasis in college that you still ran a pro style offense so you were still running the gap schemes, the powers, the downhills. I think the college system has ruined offensive linemen having the ability to go in and step in right away because they've gone to all this RPO and quick throw and all we got to do is run laterally left and right.

We don't have to take somebody off the ball five, six, seven, eight yards and dump them on the ground anymore. So I think, you know, at the end of the the day when you look at the college system now we're just looking to win games and how can we win games we get our athletes out in space we hit the RPOs you don't have to be as talented technique wise across the offensive line and the centers half the time don't even snap the ball to a quarterback under center until they get to the NFL anymore so I don't go hand to cheek I don't go hand to cheek I gotta go hand to cheeks you cheek. I gotta go hand to cheeks. You gotta get comfortable with hands on cheeks too. That's all another

feeling you got to get used to. Last question here we only got about two minutes. D-Bud has one for you. Yeah, comment just asked you about the rookies. I want to ask you about the best available free agents possibly that are out there and the guys that we can expect to get big deals coming up once free agency opens up. Yeah listen I think when you look across the board, I think centers are gonna get some big deals. I think when you look at Drew Dahlman, I love Drew Dahlman on the offensive line.

Cam Robinson obviously gets traded to Minnesota last year. I really like Cam Robinson. Ronnie Stanley left tackle, big Megatrony over in Baltimore. I think he's got the ability. George Phan got a ton of ton of Talent. I absolutely love George fan being able to go in and step in and be a starting left tackle somewhere back Then coming off the year that he had Interior I don't know if the teams are gonna want to move him back out to tack or guard

But look for Drew Dalman to be kind of the center that people look to go after I think in my opinion Hi, we appreciate you. Hey, did you see the D-Bud was wearing? What league was that in? Homestead Grays. I love it. I saw it earlier. Yeah D-Buds I think you can tell me what league that is. Well it's the Negro League guys. Homestead too by the way. Love everything about it. Pittsburgh baby. That's right. It is Pittsburgh.

Special page. We're part of the solution not the problem. Let's not forget that. Ladies and gentlemen that's A.Q. Shipley. We're part of the solution on the problem. Let's never forget that. Ladies and gentlemen, that's a Q Shipley We appreciate your super Our wrapping up our two will be on ESPN Main and ESPN to because there's a rain delay on baseball I'd say we have some gusty showers is how they were describing it here in Indiana Wild crazy. I've never heard anything described like this

You know every once in a while a word will be dropped into Like the weather channel like polar vortex is coming through and then this is coming over this morning They're like look out for gusty showers today. It's like oh tornado with rain is gonna come through for like 45 seconds to two minutes and then you got a little time off and it's gonna come through again. It's Insane today. It's awful. Yeah, I mean my garbage can last night, you know flipped over rolled halfway down the street I go get a bad neighbor. Oh, yeah We talking about as a garbage guy put it down and just fucking sense probably open to exactly when came Exactly, and now there's gonna be a bunch of water in there too. Cuz the rain's crazy. Everybody look out

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That's Darius J. Butler. The Talks at the Table is here. Not on the same page. At times, you made an epos to Connor. That's okay. That's on me. We were just talking ball, thinking about ball. Everything that we're talking about is for the ball.

That's the ball. That's the ball. That's the ball. That's the ball. That's the ball. That's the ball. That's, at Connor. Is everything okay? That's on me. We were just talking ball, thinking about ball. Everything that we're talking about is football,

but we're saying sports and I, you know, I just. Yeah, but we're doing sports. We are doing sports and I'm pumped about it. And I love sports and I love it. We're on ESPN and ESPN too. Too soon. That cannot be how the hour starts. I screwed up, man.

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Sports! After a beautiful announcement of what we get to talk about every single day, and that's sports. What a wonderful toxic table we have today. Someone say perfect. At Boston Connor, at Ty Schmick, con man, sweet hat. Hey, thank you very much.

Taker, one of the goats we're talking about, sports and entertainment, of course Cuz that's what we do here. But yeah, it's great. We're lucky to be here. I mean the NBA Holy hell. Oh my god Are you joshing me man? This this league is heating up and you know I went back in the archives kind of learn a little bit more about the past Celtics greats But I mean, how about LeBron 50,000 points? Past Celtics greats, but I mean how about LeBron 50,000 points?

Butch was all jacked up about these Cleveland Cavaliers, you know, we want not me but It's great. It's great to be able to talk about them all nine-year NFL vet. There is Jay bother the Having quite a moment here fifty thousand points in one league the highest league in the world LeBron James still absolutely dominant and might have his best team he's ever had with Luca next door. It's ridiculous how well LeBron is still playing until his 40s now. And for him to crack 50,000 combined points postseason, regular season,

and be doing it while his son is actually on the team with him is absolutely insane. Then Luca, you know, they're figuring out first Lakers duo to go for 30 points and five threes. Luca just joined one of four Lakers all time to go 30 points, 15 assists already in what is probably ninth, 10th game with the team. So they are definitely cooking with gas. And while talking about the OGs, we might as well stick with them. Steph Curry, he was cooking as well. Once again, 28, nine and seven, I believe in the Madison Square Garden where he's 12 and one now.

And they are nine and one since adding former Heat great Jimmy Butler. Great. Line up. Yeah, nine and one. We got to give him his flowers. He's still cooking over there in Golden State. So love to see this for Steph.

Warriors are still in contention right now. So yeah, the NBA is definitely cooking up. You talked about the Cavs. They just won 11 in a row, their third 11 game win streak of the season so far Which is crazy. So that's um, you know, that's AJ's team. He'll be on soon. That's his squad his mop so they're cooking right now too and um Katie I know their team stinks, but he had a little dust up on the side line with his coach had a huge fourth quarter Bring his sons back. So yeah, the NBA is definitely cooking right now. Plumlee is still in the NBA, that's awesome.

I just found that out from this particular clip. I also liked the Kevin Dornansois at fire. Sons are 11th in the West and he's like, come on man. Leads a massive comeback. The Sons maybe not dead yet, 20 games left and anything can happen. Yeah, no doubt about it. And Katie's already planning on where he's going next year.

So maybe they do make a run, probably not. I mean, we can't You know, why yeah, Kauai's playing again. He played 40 minutes. Yeah, 30. Yeah 40 minutes against the Lakers. He He's back. He's back from injury. He's going on a run. But yeah, how are we got? How are we not gonna talk about Halbert? Yeah, it's how the burden is breaking all the records I was waiting for you guys to do your little bias shit. You were doing well I didn't bring up the stock about the's talk about LeBron 50,000 points obviously immaculate. Congratulations. Steph Curry getting back into the

relevance conversation of the NBA. His good news got changed the entire sport of basketball basically with his success immediately in a shoe game. Stellar. Jimmy Butler going over there after causing a scene down in Miami. Obviously big-time story especially if they're nine and one in the entirety. The Cavs, what a team. Celtics, what a team. This guy, he's ungodable. The amount of spunk this guy has too. They're starting to call him Tyrese Halapazaz. You've heard about this. He's passing, he's moving, he's shooting, he's pulling up from anywhere. He's doing logo threes now. And remember he was part of that Olympic team, didn't get to play, got a golden medal. Has the tweet obviously about

When he do nothing in the group project and still get an A and that's because like outreach has the perfect mentality to be a point guard He doesn't mind seeing other people do good things He doesn't mind being a guy that's in the background if somebody else is gonna get the showtime As long as we're winning long as we're doing our thing and now he's dropping these threes at a rapid rate He's still doing his assist shit, which is always spectacular Always gonna be a showman always gonna let people know are you not entertained while he's out there and then the way he carries himself I mean, he's a Midwest kid who's just an absolute dog And he happens to love the WWE

We are very lucky that Tyrese is in Indianapolis and he's doing historic shit at the point guard position Yeah, unbelievable. I believe he had what 15 assists only two turnovers last night. You know, we've been talking about the run of games with a so make that make sense. So 15 and two that's like for a quarterback throwing like four touchdown five touchdowns or maybe six touchdowns in a game in one pick. That's more like four completions. Yeah okay got it 18 or 20 this guy is going for a big tire unbelievable but yeah, I've been doing some deep dives into the Celtics history and Actually, we've watched this documentary on the Celtics and how Burton's got some Bob Cousin I'm oh, really just tell you the whole entire game that I've lose these day yeah it's hell of a compliment

yeah I don't want I don't want to downplay what Coos was all about I mean when I when I was a hell is this community please for everybody that is watching Bob Bob Coos he's one of the goats basically the league was built on Bob Coos he's back he's an eight-time NBA champion dog about he was yeah well we don't even have to okay yeah he NBA MVP He was kind of the first ever Dynasty when it comes the NBA was Bob Cousy and he's still still bringing it still kicking was alive for the Celtics last You know NBA championship. He said now he can die that they have the 18th banner more than the Lakers What is he though? Can he get to it? What he is? He has a lot of present

He's got opposite. He's basically the first guy to put the ball through his legs while he's dribbling okay that's who Bob Kuzzi is. Hometown kid went to Holy Cross fantastic NBA point guard he played with Bill Russell. Wait the first? Everybody was doing this right here. Everyone was doing that. Everyone was doing that everyone was doing that bingo a lot of those and he did that better than anybody Yeah, yeah, he almost got burned at the stake for being a witch You can you can put the ball behind your back to dribble and he was doing it all When you talk about how pizzazz okay Bob Cousy He was Bob panache cuz the guy just played but like there was no tomorrow in some of the highlights

They were showing ya we might as well Inglis on that Coos was the guy Where's he from he's he's a Queens New York guy went to These moves for Bill Russell What are you talking about? I'm just gonna call him the Elvis of his time. Yeah. Here's the thing. Here's the thing deep I'll learn this in the dock. I don't think they were allowed to play on the same court, but I, I do, I do appreciate what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Still it was those were different times. Very sad. I felt terrible for everyone. A part of the doc. He hasn't

dribbled with his left hand one time. Yeah. Joining us. Oh, that was with the right. Going left dribbling. Right. Show the left. Right hand. Suck it. Right hand. Right. Left.

He's got three of them. This guy's got it all. You're welcome. Kareem. Joining us now is a man who I assume has a poster of this guy Bob Bob Cousy. We love you Cous. Bob Cous. We love you Cous. In his bedroom ladies and gentlemen a college football national champion He's Super Bowl champion a Ryder Cup winner AJ Hawk He took that shit from right here and just did one of these one day and there's people that fainted And he shows up doing the fucking whoopty-woos.

My God, price of admission worth it for Bob Kooze. You had a poster of him up in your bedroom growing up. What is your favorite part of his game? I was very aware of Bob Kooze, no question. I had some old school coaches when I was young playing AAU that said, what do you think you're Bob Kooze? If anyone ever tried to go behind your back or even shoot a three or do anything out of the norm, it wasn't like a jump stop pump fake fake layup back in the day that basketball used to be when I was growing up

But he's like a young he looks like like pistol Pete Marovitch. You guys gotta know who pistol Pete is Pistol Pete wishes but AJ does strike me more of the st. Louis basketball team is probably a fan of them And if you didn't watch the doc, you probably was that but let's just say let's just say they were very specific about the players They were drafted. Okay. You said you did learn a lot about the times. Yeah. Yeah, very tough time Very sad very very sad feel very bad for Bill Russell also makes a lot of sense why he never did an entire You know retirement session for the Celtics or for anybody because of the times there. Yeah, I mean there was a lot of things said, a lot of things done, a lot of mandates, restrictions, regulations.

That's crazy. Look at us now. Come on. We can always get better. Yeah, come on. Let's keep it going. Hell yeah. Let's keep it going.

Sports, big news AJ. Tooney gets traded to the Chicago Bears This is a big deal. Do we know he was available? Like I would like to know like did the did the Indianapolis Colts know that toony was available now, Greta You're gonna have to work probably a two-year extension. Maybe a big deal Maybe some 20 million potentially a year here for an all-pro guard a Super Bowl champion a 10,000 snap guy coming to your team. But did everybody know he was available

for a fourth rounder, AJ? And what are your thoughts on this? This is the kind of thing that strikes me that this got worked out at the combine. You know, when agents and coaches and front office people are there, they kind of work through the deals like this. But no, I was not aware.

I felt like Tuni was a guy that's gonna retire at Kansas City Chief. I know we never really know the inner workings, what's going on as far as like contract wise and money and all that. But I tell you what, the Bears got a hell of a guy that's gonna retire Kansas City Chief. I know we never really know the inner workings, what's going on as far as like contract wise and money and all that. But I tell you what, the Bears got a hell of a guy that can still play and he has shown that he can play inside and outside.

Obviously I would imagine he would prefer to play guard, but this guy is an absolute stud. I still think he has plenty of years to play. Yeah, how old was he again? 32. 32 years old, two years, 41 million is what's bow track is projecting spoh track is a website that keeps track of everybody's contract projections they make graphs I mean they are it's a great website yeah great

website I assume the NFL is very grateful for it I think it's probably used by most teams around the NFL two years 41 million dollars that's great money that's big money thought of the salary cap you know we just announced that say quam Barkley was getting two years like 41 million dollars that's great money that's big money out of the salary cap you know we just announced that Saquon Barkley was getting two years like 41 million dollars everybody talked about how big of a deal was I saw how positive everybody was around it the only negative was good luck with that much of the cap being eaten up by a running back it's like you're gonna get off that's a line there's no dollar that you wouldn't spend on that same with Saquon Barkley but 40 million is a lot of money to have to make a decision on right now

I think yeah you obviously got to be creative with it, but I mean, you're investing in protecting your young quarterback who, you know, who is still on a rookie deal. So you can save that money. He'll have to get paid in a few years if he turns out to be what a lot of people expect him to be. But if you're going to spend the money and invest it anywhere, that's what everybody's been saying since drafting Caleb Williams, invest in protecting them. Okay, let's talk about some other things that are happening around the NFL more specifically Seattle the home of Starbucks and the home of you know a lot of things no longer the home of Ty Lockett. He has been released by the Seattle Seahawks he put out a very long letter to Seattle he's obviously synonymous with that place for a lot of great ball and now Tom Pelicero from NFL Network the arrow is reporting

that DK Metcalf has requested a trade Okay, so that is Pittsburgh Steelers fan grunting with Satisfaction there that DK Metcalf is potentially on the trade block We've heard nothing from Schneider or the Seahawks whether or not that is true And if he is available once again, we have the Miles Garrett situation happening in Cleveland and the Browns have only said he's not available Tony, why'd you get so excited right there brother? We have the miles Garrett situation happening in Cleveland and the Browns have only said he's not available tone Why'd you get so excited right there brother? Well, I mean because the Steelers have been trying trying trying so hard to trade for wide receiver the last 12 months

It has not happened many many times Cooper Cup. I you kids. It's just go through all of them Metcalf has been on the Steelers fans wish list for a little bit now and now that he is requesting a trade not saying it's gonna Happen I'm not saying he's gonna get traded but at least the Our my hopes are ready to get crushed. I want to let you know, you're not the only one I look over and talks the table both guys were like, yeah Yeah, yeah, it's like be a great Patriot tie like great packer in this entire thing. That's a big name Yeah at the combine a bunch of reports came out that the Packers have already I mean they it ended up being false

But there's a lot of smoke that the Packers have already engaged a little bit with the Seahawks trying to get DK Metcalf. The rumor was that they've already offered like a first round pick for him and maybe like a potential one of their other young receivers. I don't know if that's actually true, but I would assume that the Packers will be very aggressive in trying to get a guy like DK Metcalf if he's available. Yeah, I think last year as well and two years ago, DK has always been kind of one of those guys at any time he's available. Yeah, I think last year as well and two years ago DK has always been kind of one of those guys at any time he's

Available. It's like hey, let's go get him right now with New England The big news with wide receivers is AJ Brown and Mike Rable doing the whole entire kind of reunion and that's a Kwan deal You know if AJ Brown were to be a little unhappy wanted more money or if they wanted to you know Bring back a Makai back in or something like that. But yeah DK Metcalf I think every single team who needs a wide receiver wants DK Mech F. Okay, so that's Patriots, that's Packers, that's the Steelers. D. Butch, is he a guy that you should still feel that way if you're a fan base with how he has played as of late?

Obviously we know of the athlete that DK Mech F is. Zero percent body fat. Can jump higher than you can run faster than you. Is taller than you and is stronger than you. DK Mech F is a one of one type. He was getting compared to Calvin Johnson He wasn't happy about it at the beginning of his career. Yeah, Calvin Johnson physically obviously not anymore, but it's like hey I am physically Imposing as well, which he certainly is is he still a guy and how about locking her team gonna pick up both of them? And is it Russell Wilson with the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Whoa tie-in Wow DK Metcalfe Yeah, I was saying place him and get very, very different positions right now. But Shoutout to Locke had a great, very productive career out in Seattle for a long time. He was a dog. And DK Metcalf has a lot of tread, I think, left on his tire. And when you're game planning for Seattle or wherever he goes,

he's still one of those guys that you can't let ruin the game. Because at any point in the game, he can go for 80 or 90 yards with his explosive ability. There are some things maybe on the sideline attitude wise that you have to deal with here and there but we had Justin Jefferson on usually that comes with a number one big-time wide receiver but there hasn't been any at least to my knowledge any off the field things with DK since been in the league when you got a 27 year old that can still take the top off a defense if you're a team out there to chargers,

maybe could even be a team that can get in on them and get an explosive weapon on the outside for Justin Herbert. But this is big, big news for the NFL for him asking out because Jackson Smith and Jigba became clearly their number one guy out in Seattle last year. Okay, so Jackson Smith and Jigba obviously a star in the making and star rising in Seattle, especially with new coach and everything, Pete Carroll back in the league, by the way, at a different place, he's very interesting to think about. But they kick Pete Carroll out, Ty Locke is gone, DK Metcalf is gonna be gone. It's only a matter of time before that is a whole new

operation, and I'm not saying it's not gonna do well. McDonald? McDonald from Baltimore, defensive coordinator for the Ravens, now the head coach of the Seahawks, probably has a vision. Fan base, right? Yeah. They lost some.

I lost them last year. Right? Because the Buffalo Beals came in there and stole. And the Packers big time on Sunday Night Football. OK, so you're losing your fan favorites here, potentially. So you're going to have to rebuild. Like like that is gonna have to be an actual thing We'll be keeping our eyes on that joining us now. Ladies and gentlemen is a man who speaking of building has been building sports leagues Seemingly over the last ten years at a rate that I have never witnessed before

Loves ball loves sports. I think also loves the thought of a relationship, you know, with the world growing continually. Ladies and gentlemen, the chairman of the Islamic Solidarity Sports Federation from Saudi Arabia, Turkey Al-Sheikh. Turkey, Turkey, thanks for joining us, boss. This title is not with me anymore. It is from 2017 when I was Minister of Support for my country. I am now the head of the entertainment section. Head of it? Okay, so what's the actual title? Let's make sure we get that right. What is the right title here, Turkey? The right title is Turkey I'll Shake. That's it.

Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, Turkey I'll Shake is here. Yeah! Congratulations on the announcement of the boxing promotion with the fine folks at TKO. I assume there was a lot of people that wanted to do boxing business with you. Why did it end up being the group of TKO, both UFC, WWE, Dana, Nick, Ari, Mark? Why did that become the relationship that you chose for your boxing entity? First of all, because they are the top in this field. Second, we have a great long relationship between us and

TKO for long times and a lot of success profiles similar to WWE and a lot of things else. They are the perfect, we share the same vision and we think we can reach our goals together. Okay, so Turkey, obviously I feel the same way I work for the WWE. We have massive respect for the UFC and everything that Dana has accomplished and obviously Ari and Mark. So I agree with everything you're saying there. Can you tell me a little bit more about the vision of having sports maybe be the bridge for Saudi Arabia and the rest of the world? And why is this the time that it is kind of happening, you think?

business between us and TKO. Our citizen in our country, more than 70 percent of it is young people. We have a big vision from our leader, God bless him, the Crown Prince, the vision of 2030. One of the sections of this vision is the sport. We have a lot of big things. We have the World Cup. You have the World Cup in 26. We have it in 34. We have a lot of things. We have the expo. We have a lot of big projects.

For that, the sport is very important for us. We have now WWE around 10 years now. I have here with their own with me my brother Nick Khan. Congratulations Nick! Super genius by the way. Super genius Nick Khan. Absolutely right guy to make the decision. You look thin too Nick. You look good right there. All the photos. I haven't eaten in six weeks. too, Nick. You look good right there. All the photos. Yeah. You look good. I haven't eaten in six weeks. Smart, smart, smart. Good to see you, Nick.

Congrats on that. Uh, but you talk about your relationship with the WWE Turkey and I get a chance to chat with the superstars and the people from the WWE who have maybe gone over their first show until like most recent show. It feels like there has been quite a, um, an uptick in both welcome and also, uh, happiness for WWE coming to town and also in the country as a whole. Do you feel that? Is that a real?

Yeah. Yeah, of course. WWE and a lot of big franchise from America have a lot of fans in our country. And, uh, there is a lot of Saudis studies years. There was a lot of fans in our country. And there is a lot of Saudis studies here. There is a lot of me myself. I came here for a long time in New York. New York saved me. The hospitals in New York saved me more than one time.

WWE great relationship. I want an ISIS to say from here, hi to my father, Vince McMahon. This is the man who we're beginning together and after that I continue with my brother Nick Khan. Great relationship and now we are thinking in this league of boxing with sharing the same vision between me and the God, Dana White, we will success to reach very far place inshallah to the fans. Yeah, so joining us now, speaking of the man you just referred to, ladies and gentlemen,

Dana White, president of UFC. Hello, Dana. Dana, congratulations. Congratulations, honestly. Good morning. Thank you. We know you started boxing, love boxing, and you've been disappointed with the state of boxing. Feels like over the last few years since we've gotten a chance to chat with you.

What is the conversation like with what you're going to do? I saw you on first take talk about the best, you're going to fight the best. We're not going to have all these titles. How do you go about doing that? Are you finding young fighters? Are you getting known fighters? What is the plan to kind of fill your roster? Yeah, there's a lot of young talent out there, up and coming talent that people don't know about. And we're going to stack cards that start from the first fight of the night to the main event that are packed with good fights. You're going to see a lot of guys who are

you know, undefeated, fighting each other to work their way up to win the world title and you know my big beef with boxing has always been nobody has ever invested back into the sport yet all these promoters who take take take and never reinvest nobody in the history of the sport has invested more money in boxing in such a short amount of time than Turkey has he's very passionate about the sport. And literally none of this could have been done without a guy like this coming into it. Okay, so let's talk about it because we've watched the fights. Tyson Fury's had a few.

There's been some other marquee fights that have happened over there in Saudi Arabia. Obviously, we got big stages, the big arena sellout. We are all watching from long. How many fights a year are you guys expecting to put on and will they all be in? So how is that? How would all work out with? Kind of the the logistics of this particular promotion Dana Yeah, now that we've got the deal done what we do now is to start to build the infrastructure We got to build a team then we got to go out and get a rights deal once we get a rights deal

We can literally I mean whoever we end up doing a deal with, we can structure this thing to whatever the network needs, we can put on as many fights as they want. And you start when we started the UFC, they had like 12 contracts, and everybody started, you know, started to fight each other, you get the best available in the world, they worked their way up, We're going to have Olympians. We're going to have guys that are already undefeated out there and have established records. Plus, Turkey has a lot of commitments for some of the big fights with some of the guys that are out there right now. So there's a lot of fun,

exciting fights to make out there. And you know, you know how I run shows. The live event will all change. It will be much better than anything you've ever seen before. You won't have one fight and then a podcast happens and then another fight happens 45 minutes later. And you see four fights in six hours. All of that stuff is gonna change when we start running the show. The in arena show is obviously gonna be something special, especially with WWE even being a part of it. I mean, UFC and WWE being a part of the production is gonna make that a must be at event.

In Turkey, so now you have golf, you have you had boxing matches, you have soccer, you have fighting. Why was boxing the next one that you wanted to focus in on? Why was this the next play you think for you and for Saudi Arabia? Just love of sport? Yes, of course. And with the support of my boss, the Crown Prince, God bless him. He's like to support anything for the young generation. We discovered a chance in the boxing. I like boxing.

He give me the files and he support me a lot. And then with the right people, I think we will success. Dana, behind Dana, very big experience. He have the machine of the TKO and he's bulldozer he will go and clean the way and we behind him I give him yesterday that the flag and the headache in the same times and I said to him come on clean the field the bulldozer Dana White what a nickname I can't wait for that now speaking of Dana making these fights finding these Tone has a question for you.

Yeah Dana, do you foresee any of your UFC guys wanting to get in the boxing ring now with this relationship and in the future, will you guys have any events where there will be an octagon next to a boxing ring and we can see this all come together? Ooh. No, no, no.

I see there are guys that want to box, but I literally don't want to see any of that. We'll keep the boxers and the boxing and the MMA guys and the MMA but um we'll know we'll never have that. Listen when you go to see a boxing match, Turkey has put on some of the best fights uh that couldn't be made in the last 30 years uh you know in the short time that he's been in the sport. And, and, and when you ask them about, uh, you know, why get into the boxing, I mean, this guy is incredibly passionate about the sport, much like when, when me and the fritidas got involved in the UFC,

this is exactly what boxing needed a guy like this to come in, bring it all together, put, make the big fights happen. And now, like he said at the beginning of this call, we are aligned in how we feel this needs to be built from the ground up. And we're just gonna restructure the entire sport of boxing. Yeah, and it'll be great for the sport of boxing to be all the way back. I know you have your feelings and obviously you've stayed on there about the influencer and celebrity boxing matches. But Jake Paul, Logan Paul, Floyd Mayweather fighting different

people, that was bringing a lot of attention to the sport. I think now if you're able to showcase the greats of the sport, I think you're in a good time to hook them. Don't you think Dana, to get the sport all the way back? Well, those fights are always going to exist. They're always going to happen. Whenever you get a couple of famous guys that want to fight each other that don't necessarily box that's always going to be there what we care about is finding the young up-and-coming talent and and building these fights up to find out who the best is in each weight

class and there won't be six different champions in each weight class there will be one you will know who the best heavyweight is who the best light heavyweight is who the best you know what i mean and you can literally start calling off if you start asking people uh you know fans of the sport who's the champion at this weight who's the champion this weight people will actually know okay now boxing is that go ahead turkey go ahead if you excuse me also we care about you, the young generation. When I came to the boxing, I have a lot of studies. The average of the fans now became 40 plus.

The reason, no one want to take the risk in the big fights. As Dana said, long, long event, different platform to see the event, no big fights. For that, the young generation doesn't care. Now we are focusing a lot in the same times, also with UFC in the same times, we want video games, we want animation, we want movies, we want a lot of things, merchandise. This is a lot of things will happen.

And with the relationship with TKO, they have the experience and the relationship with this man, this man build franchise from scratch. We will success. And I want to tell you a secret. If he allowed me, ask him which the first event fight he will have in September. Ask him if you want to answer. Hey, Dana, I have a question for you. Bertie just dropped in my ear the first event that's happening in September.

I didn't know if you knew anything about that or anything going on. Well, these are things that we want to pump the brakes on and announce. We need to do it right. breaks on and announce my friend turkey gets gets too excited about the goal and that is awesome well we actually are getting together with him tomorrow we're gonna shoot some content and When it's time to announce We have a massive fight literally and this is exactly what I'm talking about a massive fight that only this guy Could make happen this man right here is the only guy that could make a fight like this happen and

together brother brother, we will announce it when we're ready to. But this is the guy that has literally brought boxing back. Today is day one. We're making our announcement and we're going to start building this sport back up from ground zero. That's awesome, man. September 4th, the world's going to change. September 5th, maybe. That's awesome man. September 4th the world's gonna change. September 5th maybe. Maybe September 6th. Who knows what day it is. Maybe September 12th. Oh ok maybe. Maybe it sounds like. Maybe it's September 12th. The sport of boxing will change forever.

Ok I'm excited to watch what you guys do with boxing. But I think your investment into sport is a cool thing from our perspective. Because you know whenever it started and it started getting loud it became a political conversation It became a lot of negative conversation But like investing in sport and in athletes it is like it's very easy to see why the world is so much more similar than It is divided. We all love people competing. We all love sports. We all love athletes We all love people earning what they've worked for and getting what they deserve So we would like to know what's next after the boxing that con man

Yeah, turkey obviously Pat mentioned all those other sports and you know I think golf more than anything was benefited greatly from live are there any other kind of projects any other sports you're interested in getting into? Where there was reports about basketball potentially I believe last month. month is there anything like that on the docket as well? There is a lot of project the responsible about it the prince Abdulaziz the minister of support he's been turkey in our country and mr. Ayasir, excellency Ayasir Rumayan also BIF There is a lot of big surprise. There is a lot of big opportunity. They involve and they will announce it in the perfect time. And also I am discussing with Dana very big things we want to do in the UFC, in our country

and this Power Slap also. I and the Power Slap also. I like the Power Slap. He had a very big event in our country last month and asked him about the numbers. The arena was almost 8,000 and sold out in minutes. And the people in my country asked to have it again and again. Tarki, can we talk about your country? It seems like your people are very excited for these events.

Why do you think that there is a narrative that like, you know, this would never work with Saudi Arabia and the United States of America? Why do you think that is the case? Can you repeat the question, please? Why do you think people thought that this wouldn't work sports kind of bringing together two countries maybe? Why do you think people thought that this wouldn't work? Sports kind of bringing together two countries maybe. Why do you think that is the case? Our relationship together is more than 90 years old now. A lot of our citizens study here, go to hospital here, go to vacation here, and a lot of American

have very big jobs in our country. And we have a lot of Americans have very big jobs in our country, and we have a lot of things together. Every project we go together in is success in any case. And with this time, with our brave leaders and the leaders of America, we have success success and we think we will have success more and more. And I don't want to miss, I want all the cities, small things, I want to invite you all in the second of May in Times Square.

Let's come and see the fight in Times Square for the first time. Okay, I can't wait for that. I heard that you guys are running out Times Square putting on three fights I believe May 2nd is my birthday quite a celebration. I saw a part of out there in Times Square Can't wait to watch this all continue to get started and then obviously we've learned through this conversation potentially maybe September 12th, maybe a boxing promotion changes the sport of boxing forever. Is there a Canelo potential? Is there a Canelo conversation around September?

Is there a- I think that when you talk about, like I said, what this guy has done, everybody's name is in the mix. Every big boxer on the planet is in the mix and he literally walked Nick and I through you know some of his plans because he's got stuff that he's committed to already different than what we're building together and if when you see the stuff that first of all the idea of renting out Times Square is one of the coolest things that I've ever seen. Hilarious.

Yeah, yeah. And he has this whole AI model of how it's built out. It's incredible. It's one of the greatest promotions in the history of the world. And the other things that he has planned out for the next couple years are unbelievable, fascinating, fun, and something that people are definitely going to want to see. That's awesome news.

Canelo on September 12th. I can't wait to watch. I cannot wait. Taki, Al Sheik, Dana White, Nick, Nick, and I don't know if you can hear or not. Congrats to you guys. Congrats to you guys. Can't wait to watch. Thank you.

And thank you for the time. Crown Prince, God bless him. That was awesome to hear you say. Is he involved in all these conversations, or how does that kind of work? Yeah, I cannot do anything without his blessing. He's man of the details. He take care about everything, and he

support about everything. And with his blessing and support, we will go far. There is small things also. I said to you the Times Square in the 2nd of May, and there is small cards in the end of June and Alcatraz jail in San Francisco, and maybe me and Dana keep some promoter there. Okay, yeah. Okay, all right. Okay.

All right. We appreciate it. That is awesome. Hey, the Diaz brothers have swam and they've swam. The Diaz brothers, I think, have actually swam from Alcatraz, San Francisco and the June can't wait Think about this think about That's any of the sports all throughout history. This has to be the only sport that has generated trillions Trillions of dollars in revenue and at the end of the day, there's nothing there

The sport is broken and fragmented. You can't make the fights that everybody wants to see. For the first time ever, the sport is actually being invested in. Everything's being pulled into one group and it will actually be a functioning business in the next five years. Never been done before, ever. Got the right people behind it. Can't wait to watch it all unfold.

Congrats. What's the name of the promotion? Do you have a name yet? Well, we're still working on that, too. It's TKO right now. We're not sure if Turkey loves that yet or not, but we're working on it. All this stuff is being worked on.

Anything you do, I love. It is your call. You're the boss now. Hey, that's good team right there. Shout out to the Crown Prince. God bless him. And we can't wait to watch what you guys do. Turkey, Dana, Nick Khan, TKO Boxing. Congratulations.

All right. What a combo. How about Nick sneaking his head in the side? How about Dana at the end? Time out, time out. I'm trying to leave in a, Jesus. Jesus. Ask him about September.

I got a text from somebody that's potentially in that room and they were like, oh, I didn't know we were doing this. Lob Canelo, Lob Canelo. It was like, that was a shout out to that man. Nick, Nick Khan has been a, I don't even know the proper word to say it. Mentor would be an understatement.

Blessing. Yeah, God bless him. God bless him. God bless him. And he certainly has been watching him just kind of operate and do his thing. And then whenever I'm in the middle of doing my stuff, you know, cause I don't have an agent.

Okay, so all the deals that have been negotiated thus far, basically, it's me talking to the person and getting it done. So I'm having to sit in the room where it happened these negotiations that take place. And obviously I'm representing myself. So normally, whenever you're talking about a talent or a player or something, there's probably some negative things said during negotiation. You watch Pawn Stars, there's a ding here, there's a chip here, this is that, this happens,

this happens, he potentially can piss off an entire country, you know, like all these things come up in these negotiations. So I get to the point where I just want to tell everybody to go fuck themselves. I mean, that is legitimately where I get to, where it's like, forget it, we'll just continue to work alone, we don't need to do this and all that I'll call Nick

Nick will have like such great guidance and like hey, do you really want to do that? Maybe talk me down a little bit, you know Maybe give me a different phrasing on how to go about doing things But then also laying out a blueprint or a plan of like let's think a little bit deeper here on what the real goal is So whenever he goes from CAA over to the WWE to run everything over there, and I'm already at the WWE, it was like really cool to see him kind of because he's a lifelong WWF, WWE professional wrestling fan, boxing fan, grew up in Vegas. So there's no sports team in Vegas. So it's like boxing and WWF, they come through there, they do wrestling, does it? So that's who he was a fan of growing up.

So watching what he's doing with the WWE now, and then now he's with TKO group, which means he's with Ari Emanuel, and Mark Shapiro, and Dana White. Watching those four, you know, and Rock, Dwayne Johnson's in there. Watching those business minds come together, and just getting a chance to be able to lob questions in and be like, hey, why are we doing?

And then like get an answer. It's like, oh, I just got so much smarter there because of these people. So I am, I'm so impressed by the business TV rights deal is gonna be difficult right? Lave just signed with Fox yep that's a massive ordeal because just a few years ago nobody would put him on TV remember they did YouTube YouTube was easily findable but it wasn't necessarily the best production of the particular content then it goes on CW nobody knows where it is but the

reason why I was on CW was on YouTube is because nobody would give any money because of the political any money because of The political landscape in conversation of things that have certainly happened in the past But it does feel like from talking to the people that WWE that have gone over there And he said we've had a relationship for 90 years But certainly in the last 10 years they've gone over from that point till now It feels like there is a leadership group over there Crown Prince God bless him and Turkey and everybody else they're like trying to get their people caught up

It is an interesting thing because if you just hold everything against people forever, is there ever a time where they can grow, you know, and get better? I don't know and there's some people that will hang on forever and I think if you listen to the people that have done business with the Saudis, they say like they're really invested. Like obviously they have a massive amount of cash, a massive amount of money, but also they can choose to spend that money on themselves and Rolls Royces and everything like that. Instead, they're spending that money on athletes and sports and trying to build things and it's like, well, they're only doing that for one reason.

It's like, well, maybe the reason why you're saying potentially, maybe they are trying to market themselves better to the world, but I think they're also trying to market themselves better to their citizens that like, hey, there's going to be better, and we're going to evolve and go in there. So I know there's people that are pissed off about any time anything that is potentially below board or could be considered that way. It happens, but it's like, if you just start looking into things that are going to piss you off, like, I mean, everything has- You're going to find-

Everything can piss you off, you know? Like that is legit. And obviously very serious stuff. We're not saying it's not but it's like it feels like they are trying their absolute best to become You know caught up to the rest of the world and I don't think that's a bad thing personally Especially because you only get one life So like shout out to the people that are living there now that are getting a chance to experience all this transition sucks before but Like I think it's a I think it's cool thing. I think it's cool thing and I like that They're invested in athletes, you know, because they had invested in a lot of businesses.

Basically every business. Basically every business the Saudi Arabia money has been invested in. Whether it's through a stock market or actual personal investment through different titles and entities. And whenever those businesses would announce that those investments would come,

the stock market would celebrate and people would celebrate. Way to go, way to get that round to see investment and everything like that. Then as soon as they went to the athletes, it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can't do that. whoa can't do that what are we talking about what we're doing and then he started lobbing like very real understandable pissed off allegations and it's like I think it's already happening and the fact that they're adding sports in it's helping athletes we're appreciative of but also the fact that it's potentially helping their citizens and their country as a whole and maybe the world you know like let's fucking let's try to find some positive in it, you know in that boxing. I don't know how you fix it

You gotta get the big dogs fighting the big dog Canelo, you know Bud Crawford or like whoever like the big guys like even Mayweather and Pacquiao Like we didn't get that fight until we felt like they were both past their prime because of all the other red tape and promoters And all the other bullshit you had to get through so if you can get the top guys fighting the top guys in their prime that fixes box because there was a time in this country where boxing was the top like that was the number one sport for a while and obviously football and baseball and other things took over but it's a star-driven sport yeah have to have stars which is why the influencers are able to do it because they're're stars. They gather their own audience, or they spread their message or their character to people that they want to see them get their ass beat. Floyd Mayweather got to a point where a majority of the people watching this fight are like, I'm watching tonight to watch him get his ass beat, or I'm watching for him to continue history.

It's like either or, whatever the reason is, they at least know of his existence. If you don't know of the fighter's existence, it's hard to get attached to it. I think it's hard to find yourself So whenever they're saying we're starting young and we're gonna try to find some stars while also utilizing the OGs probably of the sport that already have name known names because I think those contracts are very Shady and also real in the boxing world I don't know how they're gonna get around all that and then all the different titles They're just planning on their title being worth and viewed better than everybody else's because that's probably The only way you're gonna get rid of some boxing promoter in Philadelphia. It's a world champ

That is how boxing is kind of gone, right? I think well and like there are a bunch of actually like good heavyweights right now But they are spread out over so many different promotions and everything and guys that are like fairly young like not just like Tyson Fury who fights once and then retires and then comes out of retirement. There are a couple other guys in their young 30s, and when boxing was in its heyday, you need to have good heavyweights.

Because obviously it's fun watching guys like Floyd Mayweather and Ryan Garcia and some of these lighter guys, but when you have two heavyweights boxing, that is when it gets eyes, because it is, it's two gladiators going at it. And like Dana said, if he's the guy who can kind of cut through all the bullshit

and all the red tape and be like, hey, these are two guys who are 250 pounds, they're the baddest dudes on the planet, outside of the UFC or whatever, these two guys are gonna fight each other, that will get eyes on boxing. Also, they're gonna have all the money in the world, so they could say, hey, you don't fight

for that promotion anymore, you fight for our league and we have one title. Well, they did that with golf and not everybody went though. You know, there is and not everybody was able to. But golf golf is golf was a lot more together than boxing. Boxing is so fractured that I feel like it might be easier. I think them being able to eliminate a lot of the shadiness and what you're talking about and all these just like different promoters who these guys end up fighting the purses, you know, put out as one thing, but then the

promoters getting 80% of the purse anyway. And it's like, wait a minute, like that's not, that's not what I was fighting for. I didn't think I was getting this money. Like if they can eliminate a lot of that, like I think you're going to see a lot of guys want to come fight for this. Yeah. And that's like what one of Turkey's points was like, Hey, we care about you. Like you made a point to say that but the ties point as well it feels like the last big like professional boxing match that we watched was the first fury wilder and that was the heavyweight like those are the guys you're kind of drawn to and and i feel like more so in that too is they weren't neither of those guys were as polarizing as like floyd we're like floyd you some people like you

mentioned wanted to see him you know get knocked out whereas fury and some people like you mentioned wanted to see him, you know get knocked out Whereas fury and Wilder like you just want to see a great fight and basically every time every single time they fought It was a great fight except for when Wilder came out with that a hundred pound thing. I mean, you couldn't walk Gonna have any power. What do you want? Well, I wanted the Alabama Hammer better on me Yeah, I was when Tyson Fury was that was like my first time really watching Tyson Fury because the Alabama Hammer was going into England I think and he was gonna beat him up. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. I'll watch this you can move We got carried out there is fresh dude, I mean he oh, yeah, he was yeah, I've never I watched that reality show about him awesome I've never, I watched that reality show about him. Awesome.

Dad's still losing that court. I mean, I guess if you're heavy, you can do whatever you want. Yeah, wagon. Yeah, the wagon. Yeah, a couple gypsies over there doing their thing. Is he, he's, I don't, the last fights have not been good for Tyson. No. No.

Who knows how much he's been training. I feel like Tyson, if he was to actually train, once again, he'd be right back in to it all. And obviously he's done some fights over in Saudi Arabia. Okay, we got some news back at football Let's bring back AJ Hawk AJ Vegas Raiders have been very active today Adam Schefter just reported that Max Crosby has signed a three-year hundred-and-six-and-a-half million dollar extension with 95 and a half guarantee making him the highest non-pay or non-quarterback in the history of the NFL

But the third time four years the Raiders are addressing the contract of their cornerstone player This time cementing his relationship with the Raiders for the foreseeable future the deal was negotiated by CJ Leboy and dog Hendrix and Wasserman Who's chef to get his information from the question? CJ Leboy and dog Everybody nonetheless great negotiation by CJ and of Doug getting the highest-paid Non-quarterback in NFL history to be Max Crosby this one day removed from Max Crosby on his podcast I believe coming out and saying yeah, I'd love Aaron Rodgers play for the Raiders. So a lot happening in Las Vegas

I believe they did another signing here while we were live as well. It was, it was, Alex Cappa signed a two year, 11.2 million deal with the Raiders of Cincinnati, formerly of Cincinnati. So you're talking about the Raiders just getting after it here. The Raiders are making big-time plays AJ

What are your thoughts on what's happening in Las Vegas? And what are your thoughts on the fact that we know Tom Brady is hands-on in all of these decisions that are taking place Yeah, that's my first question Obviously, I think it's smart to lock max up that dude is an absolute cornerstone of of that franchise It will be for a while now But I just want to like how how hands-on is Tom like is Tom out there? Calling agents is he you know was he meet with anyone at the combine did he pop up anywhere do we know? I don't think he was in Indianapolis

But from what I've been told he was talking to numerous people that were in Indianapolis So I don't know day to day though like I mean so it does sound like day to day Tom is heavily involved in everything going on in that building brother I was so surprised whenever I was hearing this shit because, and I said, I forget who I said it to and they're like, well, it's Tom Brady. Would you expect any less? I'm like, yes, I did. Cause he's a minority owner.

He's not like the majority. Like that is not how the NFL normally operates. But then everybody's like, it is Tom Brady though. This is kind of how Tom Brady operates. So like makes sense that it's Tom Brady is doing it, but this is abnormal. I don't think a lot of people know this this that this is a very abnormal situation that a minority owner is operating both in Interviews and to say like strategy everything. It's like makes sense because it's Tom Brady. You'd want that but what a perfect Situation almost for the Raiders who need to bounce back are in a very tough division

And now they got Tom's big-ass brain in there working behind the scenes and Max locked in for three years makes sense Cuz you know I've Tom unicorn, you know been to two ten Super Bowls one seven of them But you know building up that offensive line. I think was Dan over talking to yesterday about I keep seeing this I know Max said it but as a potential spot for Aaron Rodgers I don't know if you know Devontae would go back to Vegas But Aaron Rodgers for sure especially if you keep beefing up and investing into that offensive line, you would anticipate that Pete Carroll is trying to build a team is trying to win now. You know, it's not maybe they get Aaron and still draft the quarterback, but the model, the goal is to win now.

It's not a long term bill. Pete Carroll been there. Yeah. And the cap makes sense. I believe he played guard for the bucks when Brady won the Super Bowl down there with Tampa Bay. Uh, but boy, does that Max Crosby contract screw over the Browns and the Bengals. Cuz there's no, if that's the standard now, and Trey Hendrickson's looking for a new deal, and Miles Garrett's looking for a new deal. It's hard to imagine any of them. And of course, yeah, sorry Tony, TJ, well. Yeah, TJ's over there.

And I was gonna say, that sets the table for Trey, and Miles, and TJ, andah It's like all those guys are up within the year and my ID one guaranteed not guaranteed for max good for him This is max yesterday on the rush podcast talking about Aaron Radges But it's the first year off in Achilles is one of the hardest things to do you seen it happen with Kirk Kirk had it Down here and have with Aaron. I mean he struggled like, like you said, early on, but he got better as the season went. I think with all the doubt and all the negativity around Aaron Rogers, always needs to retire, things like that, you know, he's getting caught by the Jets. I think he's going to come back and have a I know he's 42 or 41. Are you going to say MVP?

No, I think he's going to have a big year this year and I hope it's in or 41. Are you gonna say ABB? No, I think he's gonna have a big year this year. And I hope it's in our town. I love it. Yeah, okay, okay. Oh! Oh! From that one. I love you, Anthony.

Hey, that'd be a great fit. Aaron Rodgers, obviously gonna, he's gonna be spying Aaron Rodgers, we assume. He's gonna be revenge Aaron Rodgers. Raiders seemingly have and want that culture anyways. Max Crosby, the pillar of the team just got paid a hundred and one and a half million dollars, 91 and a half guaranteed. How do you feel about the way people are chatting about Aaron right now? I like it. Schefters reporting Giants are

interested. Max Crosby, who we're not saying he's coached GM or Tom Brady in the decision-making process, but maybe he is on the convo saying wouldn't mind Aaron there. What are your thoughts on that matchup AJ? I like Max actively recruiting Aaron to the squad. But yeah, I know there's talk of the Giants being very interested in Aaron. I think whether they're talking about it or not, the Raiders have to be kicking the tires on Aaron,

as they say, right? And reaching out and seeing what his interests may be, what his goals might be, how long he wants to play possibly. It would make sense for Aaron to go to the Las Vegas Rays. We know he enjoys an occasional cigar as well, so he could join Max in the victory celebrations in the locker room.

Oh yeah, and think about his desert house. We talked about this a couple days ago. The house he would have with the views he'd be able to. He could take Devontae's house if Devontae doesn't come back. Oh yeah, maybe some peyote. Didn't Devontae live in it? Wouldn't Aaron just live at Joshua Tree or Burning Man or whatever it is out there? That's out there, that's not in pay. Play a YouTube record. Yeah right. Chris Angel would put him up. Chris Angel. Float him over the house. Can you imagine

those two having a conversation how wild that would be? Oh man. That needs to happen. Our conversation will continue on YouTube, ESPN+, Disney+, and TikTok Live. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of your day. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice, and we'll change your life. I don't know if I got it in. I think so. You guys probably can probably tell because the game is still delayed so we could watch the rerun over there.

Yeah, how about us being on two channels? Very cool. I'll tell you what, we're fucking heating up, boys. We are, aren't we? Yeah, I mean, Christian Kirk getting released, obviously the DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockhart, then you get this. Did we know DK was gonna request a trade?

That feels like news to me. Tyler Lockhart being out, DK Metcalf. I swear every year for the past couple off seasons, the DK trade thing has been floated out there at one point. I mean, we're alive. He doesn't think they're a contender, is that why? I would assume everybody he knows is no longer in that building, you know,

and potentially watching his career slip away while everybody else is having monster success, especially playoff football. Like that's whenever you get talked about as being a great, you know, whenever you're in prime time. How many of those will happen for Seattle? Lockett leaving, obviously Rust was gone a few years back, but Pete Carroll gets kicked out of the building.

They're rebuilding over there, renew. And I'm not saying that means they're going to have a bad year, but they got a whole new vibe, probably whole new culture, whole new team. So DK saying, get me somewhere else. What's that? Probably more money. Yeah. Last year was due.

Yeah, I thought that he did the same. He had damn near the same deal as Debo. So wouldn't he be going into his last year? I think, but who knows about guarantees. So more money. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why he would potentially request it. And maybe they're at the stage where they're like,

all right, yeah, we'll move on. We'll get somebody else. We won't pay DK, who's been a staple of our program. And DK on any team would be awesome. He's going 27. It feels like he's been doing it forever. He's going 27. Due $22 million, Tony, Tor Tory, Dandy negotiated both contracts both around the final

years of their respective deal. Samuel has already requested a trade and has been granted such wish. Now Metcalf due 22 million also asked for one. Is that guaranteed 22 million or is that one of those like tail end of the contract that's like 4 million guaranteed out of the 22? I think we should spow track the shit out of DK Metcalf contract right now. With the numbers too that some wide receivers make you know you'd assume he would want to be up in that 30 range versus 22 no matter what.

Yeah let alone what the guarantees are in there. Yeah exactly. Also if it's similar to Debo like you kind of have a framework for the compensation that Washington just had to give up you know to get to get Debo. So like if teams were like, oh man, we might get rid of a first or second round pick to get him. Like, I don't know if that's necessarily the case when we saw Debo just go for a fifth. Okay, so Trey Hendrickson hasn't been talked about. He said pay me or trade me of Cincinnati Bengals.

Sam Hubbard retires this morning, the Cincinnati Kid. That certainly opens up maybe some money for Trey Hendrickson, but certainly makes their team worse. What are your thoughts on Sam Hubbard, hometown kid, Cincinnati Kid that certainly opens up maybe some money for Trey Hendrickson, but certainly makes their team worse. What are your thoughts on Sam Hubbard hometown kid Cincinnati kid retiring from the Bengals this morning AJ? Yeah, you're right. True Cincinnati kid. Yeah, he was from more in high school powerhouse down there in Cincinnati.

But yeah, the fact that we all know that the fumble return for a touchdown is what you will remember I think when you think of Sam Hubbard. But I was a bit surprised that he retired. He's still so young. I feel like he still has some left in the tank, but who knows how his body might feel. But yeah, I'm happy for this kid. I remember watching him play at Ohio State,

hearing about him when he was in high school. He's been a monster everywhere he's been. Do you know him? Obviously, he's a Buckeye from Ohio, Cincinnati area. I assume you know him rather well or no? I don't know him that well. I talked to him a little bit back in the day when he was at Ohio State actually when I was doing stuff for serious when there and got to interview him a little bit but people yeah people still talk about about Ohio State all the time he's

one of those dudes you know like tone setter every day at practice no matter what no days off like good a good Ohio kid no question. There he is as a child as a Bengals fan and he said that all he wanted to do was bring good times to Cincinnati Bengals fans, you know cuz he was one in this video this video was like I got kind of emotional watching it You know just as a Bengals fan as a kid and then going to Ohio State and then he said at one point These Cincinnati people have watched me literally since high school through college Become a man and grow up and so thankful and appreciative and obviously having a play like this he was told by I think Zack came up to him. I think in this video

He says Zack's have the next one will be him in a car. Maybe here He's gonna be sitting in a car after getting a game ball. I don't know in a car. Yep. There it is He says in the car He says it Zack comes up to him and says like hey people are calling that like the greatest play in Cincinnati Bangal history and like he got like choked up about that because he's a Cincinnati-Bangalist. Like that was, that felt like a real thing between him and the Bangals. Yeah. And I didn't know about it until today.

Yeah. And it's like, we should have been talking about that a little bit more. You rarely, you know, you rarely get to see that story on any level of sports. You saw it, you know, somewhat with Derrick Rose in Chicago. But for you to go and, to the NFL and spend your whole career and then get to a Super Bowl, obviously they didn't win it, they came up short, but to get the Cincinnati Bengals to a Super Bowl and take them to that height and be a big part of that, being a captain of the team you grew up a fan of and then leaving the game on your own terms, like I said earlier, it has to feel good. I'm excited for what he has coming up in the future. I'm sure it'll be some

great things in Ohio. Yeah, Ty mentioned this, I think What this video told me is that Sam Hubbard's gonna be able to do business with anybody at once Yeah, literally doesn't matter what it's We're the state of Ohio let alone the state of Ohio as a whole without committed They are to the Buckeyes and he was a Buckeye but in Cincinnati I think he could certainly just kind of do whatever whatever you want. He should tomorrow just open like 40 car dealerships over Across the state of Ohio. Yeah, what an investment fund. Yeah, exactly.

Something like a couple of restaurants. Just any, like there's money to be made. Hubbard's Hangout. You know, and he did it the right way. He's earned it. Yeah, maybe it is Hubbard's Hangout. Karaoke on Mondays, maybe, I don't know. Whoa.

Yeah, and maybe he gets a corn. Maybe he gets a- Better ask Hulk. Maybe he gets a corn business and he calls himself Corn Hubbard. Boom. You know what I mean? That'd be cool he calls himself corn Hubbard boom. You know, I mean You know Because we don't know if he's a farmer or not they got a good corn you can become a corn star

Mm-hmm. Good. You don't like corn hub. No, he said they got good corn. It's okay. I mean, it's not Whoa, oh hi, I thought you said I will you guys got you guys Great corn great. No, I used to work I used to work for Terry must set her next to the center of a high school when I used to go pick corn off The cob go put in the microwave put some butter on and serve it to him and then I'd eat some as well I mean, okay. I'm happy you serve this old man Okay, my boss Boss, you have me go over and grab it yeah as a child you used to

go pick corn for 16 like 16 I drove his truck for him yet it was a landscape company yeah I understand you gotta wash his back to never touched him never touched him we shared some meals you guys more bean right cuz I know knee-high about a Fourth of July is corn. Ohio ain't going to be corn. There's no beans. Ohio's not beans. Yeah, you guys are bean-tying, I think.

Nah. You don't even know your soil. You don't even know your soil. I've had multiple people ask me, so do you grow up on a farm? I was like, no. I don't actually know anybody that grew up on a farm to tell you the truth. I'm driven by them, they exist. You should think about these Amish people,

those are the best. Humans that don't know about Amish people, there is a civilization in multiple states of humans living with no electricity, quote unquote. Hey, what's the quote? Some are more strict than others. Summer panels? The Amish are supposed to be, because there's a, what's that other group called? Mennonites. The Mennonites are like, kind of like a less disciplined Amish group.

They kind of do the Amish shit, but they also do some of the modern shit. The Amish though, are supposed to be no electricity, no power, no nothing. Like they just live off the land and off everything like that. What I have learned, cause old Tim McAfee goes from truck driving to working in the cabinet business and the wood business,

and they are very prevalent in the wood business and the cabinet business, these Amish people, cause their woodworking is- Bill House is quick. Unmatched. Yeah, they're quick in and out. They may or may not just kind of fudge the rules a little bit. They might have a shed back in the woods that has electricity run to it and DirecTV that they hit up somebody at a gas station to do

for them and they paid them straight cash because that's what they deal with because they don't have to pay taxes for anybody. So they watch football every single Sunday back in that shed. But then they get out there turn the lights off and hey Let's get back to work Jeremiah, you know See anything sirs there's a little bit of a give-and-take but yeah, the Amish are absolute animals I mean they are studs you need anything built they can get it figured out Business-wise they will shut you down to it. There's a video showing on here. I mean they this is like one day They're able to build this is not sped up. This is live. This is them live Yeah, this is not to XP. Yeah That's we saw them up at uh, so I have

They're on rum springer. Yeah, they literally reproduce for work, you know, all of them have farms all of them have some sort of Hustle that involves very blue collar work showed out in November What's that? The Amish. What's that? About 180,000 of them in Pennsylvania. Okay. All right, I forgot.

I forgot that was a big story. I mean, just cause last night it's all coming back to me. I was gonna ask Dana, I was like, Dana, I thought you were gonna pop out there. Thought you were gonna come in, cut a promo. Wait till you see tomorrow. Saving boxing. like this man 70 not What a scene man, what a scene that's always so interesting

The song and dance that they play with the stand that's it to say it to sands and boo the claps Yeah, the side. Yeah brought signs I don't keep up with enough to really fully understand what's going on. But boy, there was one side It was not happy about what was going on wasn't a full though, there was a little parcel that was kind of the other side having a good time. I kept thinking about that group. They're just surrounded by people that I don't think are allowed to even look like they're having an okay time.

Like don't even be caught on camera and then he's just standing, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. And we're talking claps that are like, oh yeah. Big one. Oh man, even looking over. Oh, yeah. And we're talking claps. They're like, oh, yeah big one Oh, man, even looking over in their face It was a real show. I didn't expect that. I did not I did yeah, buddy got booted early on I turned on right as the guy was getting thrown out of the place. That's a real hill play with the cane You know pointing the cane at the they need to mic up the audience. We're gonna yell at him We want to hear the insult.

Yeah, it was hard to listen to that thing. Yeah, how'd you get home so quick, AJ? Yeah, were you in there? I didn't see you. You got shot out in the gallery. Up top, next to DJ, shot the DJ, 13-year-old kid. That was a cool moment. Dad lifted him up.

I just thought about the dad, probably. Overcome with emotion. I couldn't even imagine. Two seats down, off camera. You didn't see it College football national champion. Mm-hmm And he was sitting down. All right What have we not talked about? Okay, Browns are doing their top 30 visit up in Cleveland They had three people together was supposed to be four allegedly

Shador Sanders Travis Hunter Abdul Carter all currently in Cleveland or were in Cleveland overnight doing our top 30 visits. This is whenever they're meeting with everybody individually. I don't think they do workouts but they do a dinner, they do this. There has been individual ones that have been talked about basically since the beginning of these things existing and then over the last few years we've learned of group settings where guys want to see how guys interact with other people. They'll even take them to Topgolf sometimes, see how guys compete, how they handle adversity, how they handle public settings. I mean everything's in evaluation but currently the Browns who have the number two overall pick and are

allegedly taking a quarterback regardless have three players in from the draft the top three guys and then allegedly Cam Ward was supposed to be there but something happened traveled wise or logistics wise so he'll be going in by himself which might be best for all parties whenever they look at it. What do you think these teams are looking at whenever they're doing the top 30 visits? And if you're the Cleveland Browns, what are you thinking with the boys? Man, I mean, the bringing the guys in as a group is definitely something that started, I don't know how many years ago, but I know at least when, when I was taking visits, it was, I don't know if I ever went in with a group it was always one-on-one stuff the group thing I like I think it's good first off as a as the team if you're hosting these guys

think you got 30 visits you got to host guys all every day you get hey we got work to do here man like we can't just continue to host these guys like we're a college recruiting service I guess but you just want to see how they are you want to see how they interact with Your training staff with other people with everyone else like when they do they throw their food Do they throw the plate away all those little things like they are being evaluated on what kind of what a really human they are They kind of know what kind of player they are But they want to really get their eyes on them and say like does this guy love ball? That's all that matters like no matter what with their skill set we can make something work

But if he doesn't love ball, I can't do anything with them So they just want to make sure that you're committed to the game and does this guy suck? You know, that's not me. And does he suck? Does he do we not do we hate being around this guy too? Like there's hopefully you keep them around long enough to where if they are faking it and they're acting all peppy and with a little pizzazz Then you can kind of break through that to where you're like, okay You really treat you see the true self who that person is. That's all you're trying to do especially with number two overall you can't miss. Especially with what you just did with the Sean Watson you

can't miss a number two they're gonna try to dot all I's cross all T's you know Oregon I talked to Dan Lanning because how far they are out there the recruiting visits are all like kind of like a weekend where everybody comes as opposed to just like a bunch of them so they said that actually you know it is far which is not great for some people but the recruiting schedule is much everybody comes as opposed to just like a bunch of them. So they said that actually, you know, it is far, which is not great for some people, but the recruiting schedule is much easier because we at least know what's happening.

To your point about the top 30 visits, I also like the group thing because you can see how people interact with each other. That's how mine were. Yours were all grouped? Group, yeah, like I came out old, same class, 09, but yeah, all groups, Vikings, Jets. I think Jets had just had a brand new facility, but yeah, all groups, Vikings, Jets. I think Jets had just had a brand new facility.

But yeah, you just looking at how they interact with each other, how they act. And that was before social media was as big and prevalent as it is. So a lot of us was just sizing each other up, having conversations. The first time you see this other guy, or this Malcolm Jenkins, or Vontae Davis,

you see a different guy. You bring a group of DBs group of corners group of quarterbacks whatever it may be but I can definitely see how guys interact with each other how they how they communicate with each other for sure. Cam Ward QB one right in everybody's eyes. Yes. Seemingly. Reports at least. And Schefters come out and said that the Browns are taking a quarterback because they have to. Because the contract that Deshaun has can't have another quarterback that is worth anything more than a rookie contract whatever it is and that's the way they've built that contract or that salary cap and that's the way they've built the roster and I think the reason why Andrew Berry and Stefanski are still there is because I think ownership was the one that

probably made the decision to give the 230 million guaranteed to Deshaun Watson and give him every single thing he could ask for so that he had all the leverage contractually if it didn't work out and it did not work out and we're currently sitting in middle of it and that contract was certainly negotiated in Deshaun Watson's favor. So I think there's a chance that that was 100 ownership that made that decision and to Andrew Barry like I know every single time Andrew comes in and says well here's the problems that we have we're obviously battling against this and the owner goes well I. Yeah. I know I did it So Andrew Barry now is gonna have to build around that Denver Broncos have been able to do it Biggest dead cap in the history of the NFL last year. They bring in Bo Nicks

Nobody thought that Bo Nicks was gonna be drafted that high Sean Payton loves them They go on to run in a very difficult AFC West you get a guy young. That is a good that could be your franchise Why not turn that thing around go luck to the bronze yeah You wonder if they like put all the money in one year and then have them retire Seriously have to Sean like if to Sean's like I'm done I'm not gonna play anymore and then so he doesn't lose a bunch of money. It's like they just eat it Yeah, I think like is that even possible. I think the Sean I think the Sean showing up and Like is that even possible? I think Deshawn's showing up and wearing a t-shirt and hats.

Collecting that. Yeah. No, no, no doubt. That's what I'm saying. Like if they tell him like, hey, listen, Deshawn, we can't do this for three more years. Why don't you just take all the money this year? Oh my God. You're hurt.

You know, you're going to be- Just take a one year. Just take a one year. 279 and a half salary cap. We owe $155 million to Deshaun Watson be a better deal to do it right now than for it to last three more years because that's what they're Looking at. Yeah, but you can take it take it in pieces You might be able to build a team might have some chemistry like the Denver Broncos were able to accomplish Yeah, but they can at least split it over two years. Remember the splits that they have with the Deshaun deal

It's like 70 million and then 90 90 million. Yeah, yeah. Like it's absurd. Like at least with like a 50 million is one thing. Like a 70 and a not yet. It's two more years. Mulligeta. Mulligeta shit. But what about, can't they, isn't there something to him tearing his ACLs again, not in the facility? Are they trying to go after that? I'll tell you what, there's been a lot of things that you think that they could potentially get through. I don't, we haven't seen a single one. Yeah. Any normal thing that would be in a normal contract sure

But this is not a normal contract and they put it in there everywhere like no matter what he's getting all his money No, no matter what yeah And then they go to a different section with a clause and it just says no matter what and then the next one No matter what and then they take a thing and force the jores in there and they just They're the only contract that's been signed ever since kovat that doesn't have a force perjure thing And I think from what we've heard about that deal it is Heavily slanted into Sean Watson's favorite. So what do the Browns do we shall see do the Titans take quarterback? They should nobody's talking about Titans taking the quarterback. They don't have a stay in there. They keep that pick. I

Don't I've no it sounds like no one's really trading up for it definitely should but nobody's talking about them taking a quarterback really It's like I'm taking a jet cuz he said generational in an interview I suppose it depends on how many teams start to get real hot on like cam work Because we've talked that we've heard about like if the Giants lose out on Rogers, they might be interested Yeah, so like if the Browns want it to then one of those teams you would assume maybe Trades up to one so they don't get leapfrogged by you know The other team who's interested in cam ward cam ward I think by all accounts is gonna be a guy at this point now granted There's a lot of people that have been said to be a guy in the NFL and have certainly busted But maybe the more you learn about cam the more you like them. Maybe more teams do and maybe it gets louder

Maybe should or same exact thing. Maybe we'll hire certainly busted, but maybe the more you learn about Cam, the more you like him, maybe more teams do, and maybe it gets louder. Maybe Shador is the same exact thing. Maybe we'll hire. Could be. Is able to get in and sit down and interviews. People are sleeping on him, you're right. They were sleeping on him, and then they were woken up at the combine

and now they're openly hating. It's good, keep that chip on your shoulder, National Champ. Keep that chip on your shoulder, National Champ. I think Cam and Shador go one and two. That's all I said. I know it's a smear campaign with Shadour for whatever reason, that people putting shit out there for him,

but as quarterback needy as the NFL is in these teams, he's shown enough tape, he's shown enough. A lot of people are saying, hey, if these guys were in a different draft, I think if they're in last year's draft, after Caleb, Jaden, and Drake, these guys will be right up in the conversation with Bo Nicks and JJ McCarthy.

So I think these guys go one and two. They have're dual Carter's that freak show of a pass rusher And then Travis Hunter so those will be obviously the top four picks, but I think one or two will be quarterback Okay, that means Jackson Dart potentially moves into the top ten pit I mean there is so much that kind of falls in place after that where Sam Donald where's Kirk Cousins? There's a lot of storylines going in to the draft Let's pivot away from the NFL. Let's go back to college and doing good JJ Saulinger is reporting that four and a half million dollars was raised on the Buckeye crews this year Wow shot Ryan Day and all the current players that made it unforgettable for the people y'all make such an incredible impact to all the volunteers and staff

Thank you. This trip rechargesges JJ Solinger every single year. Congratulations AJ and all the Buckeyes. They got off the boat this morning I guess down in Fort Lauderdale so yeah JJ Solinger played basketball at Ohio State the dude's like he he's like the cruise captain basically he always he brings the juice for sure. Amon General Bob obviously running the ship and when he go out to the seas for two and a half months and you raise two and a half months And you raise four and a half million dollars, you're gonna feel very good about yourself. Yeah, it's the longest cruise six days Maybe okay longest cruise in mankind But they're raising money for a great cause children's cancer. I do believe is what the buckeyes cruise is raising research

Not to you you get it and uh, james cancer, yeah. You're a massive piece of that, AJ, legit. That's like a non-negotiable for you, because it's always our first week back, and we've taken two and a half weeks off, so like, you have a job, you know? But it's like, oh, got the Buckeye Cruise, and it's like, all right, fuck it, three and a half weeks off for AJ Hawk, I guess,

and then, you know, every time you go and we hear the stories and we see that, it's like, worth it, well worth it. Especially just because the stories of General Bob that are gonna linger out of your mouth from this Buckeye cruise, just a hundred percent worth it. What a magical thing. The Buckeye alumni in the Buckeye operation is a great one.

Congrats on national championship, congrats on raising money. And Ryan Day, I assume he was treated a lot differently than maybe just one year ago on this particular cruise AJ. Yeah, I mean people obviously yeah coming off the national championship and the run they had people were pretty excited. And Ryan Day and his whole family were there the whole time as well, which is a huge commitment for a coach.

Think about they get zero days off a year and they're on that thing from start to finish him and his whole family. And he makes his son RJ get up and speak in front of everybody every year he's done it three years in a row now. His son's a sophomore in high school, did a great job. Like, yeah, they do things the right way. It was a good thing, good time. If you can, if you know that all the boosters

that take care of your program are gonna be in one place for six days, and you get a chance to maybe sail around the Caribbean, probably not a bad play. And we hope that Ryan Day enjoyed himself a little bit, but I assume there's a lot of, a lot of's a lot of this for him and all of you. The Buckeyes are well on their way. Who's quarterback next year? We will see.

I mean, that's up for it. Julian Sane is who people talk about being the guy. How do they feel about the team? Good, people feel great. I mean, they're always reloading. They had current guys there, Caleb Downs was on the boat. Ibn Osin, there's the dudes out there. F there favorites to win it. Yeah, okay. Are they really? These Buckeyes, they reload they're gonna be sailing the sea next year once again national champs that boat might get flipped

Yeah, well, I think how tough it is to win the national championship now like Forget the regular season forget all your regular season That just puts you in position to have a chance and then you got to go win four gigantic football games you have to show up you have to show up four straight games or three depending upon this that's the thing with college football can you show up can your team show up that's why we see such massive upsets because it's like you're dealing with 18 hopefully to 23 year old guys 22 year old guys you really know 26 27 year olds are still kind of lingering.

Get them out of there. And everything like that. The punting situation that's been happening since Australia, I think is getting talked about too, a little bit. They've been 28, 29 taking scholarships from young kids. And obviously the game opened everybody. It's a beautiful story. Let's just make sure we're doing it the right way.

But getting that age of human to show up every single week in the biggest moment and stay focused and locked in and perform at a high level that's why the the upsets are so often that's why college football is insane and uh for that playoffs it's a long haul showing the fuck up that's a long haul of having shown you know ohio state buckeye showed up the best that they had ever been in the biggest games. Yeah, played their best when they needed it most. Has Ohio State gone back to back before? That's a great question. I don't think so, no.

If they would have, you would have probably heard about it, I think, right? Yeah, Archie won the Heisman twice. He's the only one to ever do that. They celebrated Archie when I was on the boat. That was great. 50th anniversary of him winning his first Heisman. Shout out Archie, first Heisman, then have the 50th anniversary of him winning his second anniversary next year, that's awesome. Yeah.

That would be a pretty good little time out on the boat. And I think that's why I like Will Howard so much. Biggest games, played his best ball. And it's like, is he a gamer? We shall see. Is he an NFL guy? We don't know. That guy is though.

Jeremiah Smith, he was fun. He was very fun to watch. I mean, Tate, Ibuca, Judkins, Henderson. Who's the tight end? Great name. Oh, Kazmeric, you're talking. Kazmeric, great name. I mean, they played a good ball, man. Yeah, great team.

Let no doubt beat the, pretty much beat the shit on everybody. Texas game, you know, was was a little bit but like watching it You know, it was like this is the better guy saw how they set the tone that Tennessee game was there That was something special about that one in Oregon Just weak males. It's like 35 nothing in the second quarter same thing I mean it was like they just came out or like we're better than you that is that is legitimately what this is Can they do that all year next year AJ? Can any team do it all year?

Will there ever be an undefeated team again? I mean, they don't care about me beating Michigan anymore. We know that. It doesn't matter anymore. That is the thing, right? Yeah. It doesn't matter. What's that?

It still matters. We know that. Nobody brought it up on a boat today this year, I bet. You know, I don't think it was brought up too much. You're right. Oh, there's old Boozin'. You know, you don't talk get about the games you lose right? You talk about the games you win right Can't fuck you be

Cheers, I hope not so many Ohio fucks I know, I know. Seriously. I hope not. So many Ohio fucks. Seriously, you get that shit on. We win that and the national championship, right? Yup. We're with you, Bob.

Walks away. Ryan Daley. Oh, yeah, I gotta act like I haven't heard that before. Next person comes up. Fuck, man, she's getting... Won the national championship. You going out to the Impulpualities? Got a big one, and General Bob's leading it.

I couldn't imagine how many fucking... One national championship you going out to the in pool parties One of my general Bob's leaving it. I couldn't imagine that many fucking fuck I'm not saying five. Okay, cuz not everybody is I could imagine that many Ohioans Ship for that long getting that boozed up. I can't yeah, you can't I think you can imagine exactly what it is People a lot of camaraderie a lot of comradery, a lot of fellowship, people very excited, a lot of, you know, a lot of O-H-I-O's around the boat, wherever you're at. You know, they get people working the boat saying O-H, like yeah, it's a good time. It's gotta be pretty insane at times though.

I assume it gets pretty rowdy. Yeah. I assume that it's a pretty rowdy boat, I assume. Yeah, I mean like 18 years straight, a lot of the same people have been going on that thing. So yeah, it's like family. Well, I'm happy you guys did good for a world. Four and a half million.

Boozing on the Buckeye Cruise, raising money. Called a booze cruise for a bunch of Ohioans. Speaking of, you know, doing good for the world, did you hear what Messi did to Houston? Did you hear about this? I actually did not hear that. Drama in the MLS down there in Houston we obviously don't have all the inside information on it but let's throw to brand new soccer show the concave a show he

doesn't go to Houston Houston sends out the thing people are pissed off I have a hard time because it's like if if a couple of years ago, somebody told you, Bousquet, Jordi Alba and Suarez, were going to Houston to play a soccer game. I imagine people would be pretty juice. I understand Messi's a different gravy, but like, I don't know, man.

I didn't love that statement from the Houston Dynamo to be honest. I'm with you. Jeff, that's your old team. Oh yeah, I heard Dynamo. I just think it's, one, it just makes the- Mickey Mouse. Ridiculous a little bit.

Come on, we have to issue a statement because Messi's not here. When does that ever happen around the world? Never. It doesn't. Never. Well, I'll give you an example. A.Z.H. 2008, the first

game played in FC Dallas was against LA Galaxy and it was a sold-out crowd for Beckham because in 2007 when Beckham first came FC Dallas sold it out and he didn't show up because it was ankle and it was this whole big deal that the fans were gonna upset and so Dallas gave them created had to create a whole new game So it's not the first time it's happened. But yeah, I agree both instances that it's just looks silly looks silly Uh, you know, it's not silly to concave a song And I assume many others will join how excited are you for that and is the mls? Okay Now the messies may be taking some games off

Thank you for the opportunity brother. I appreciate it. We talked about doing the show for a long time Uh, jeff cameron brec shea know a lot about soccer. They played England all over the world played for the us. I think jeff cameron 55 caps brec shea 34 like They are were very good. They were very good on our team and MLS is in a good spot right now. I don't know about the CONCAAFA Champions Cup, Inter Miami playing in Jamaica coming up that's interesting but MLS is moving in the right direction. CONCAAFA obviously is the group of nations that are near us that all play against each other. Yeah. It's actually called Concaf, okay, and it's the confederation of something,

something, something in football. Yeah. Bingo. Concaifa sounds better. Way better. And that's also the name of our team from the soccer tournament, 707, where we made the elimination rounds called win and... Couple.

Yeah, we, and we were learning the lay of the land too i mean that's first time being dropped in there and kind of learning the entirety of it all so the concave of soccer show obviously jeff cameron breck shape massive pieces of the concave of sc and uh gump i'm excited to keep up when is that show going to be released i think it'll be released tomorrow morning and then uh moving forward we might do sund Sunday and release Monday morning, not too sure. I think Monday morning release probably be best to wrap up the entire week.

Okay, so when does soccer happen? That's when it happens over the weekend mostly is when it kind of ends or? So it happens all weekend, but then you got the champions league on Tuesday and Wednesday right now. So it's kind of Sunday night would be the best to wrap it all up.

Okay, excited to watch and learn on Monday morning. It's not too long, right? We're not doing too much of this, right? 20 to 30 minutes. Okay, excited to watch and learn on Monday morning. It's not too long, right? We're not doing too much of this, right? 20 to 30 minutes. Okay, that's good. Let's start there. How do you know what leagues to focus on? There's like 4,000 soccer games a day.

That's a good question. There's the main leagues like Boondes Liga, Bayern Munich's running away with it right now. Liverpool, EPL, they're up 13 points. Serie A, the title race is close. And the Liga, the title race is also really close So you kind of just focus on those and then Champions League top dog and MLS. Absolutely. Thank you. Yeah, you almost left it up I'm as big a inner Miami fan as you're gonna find

Kits, uh-huh kids clean. I think I saw a good kid on for this particular Hi, we appreciate you doing soccer. World Cup's coming down. Hell yeah. And it's going to Saudi in 2034. Yep. I don't know what was breaking news or not. It feels like Turkey was just saying things. It was. He's kind of just letting it in.

He's got a lot of news. World Cup thing was out there. Crown Prince, God bless him. Mm-hmm. I asked obviously, that was awesome. I heard KSI's fighting at Alcatraz. Really? The YouTube guy. That's where I saw the Alcatraz thing, I saw KSI connected somehow.

So is that June? Is that what? I don't think it's going to be on this promotion. No, no, but I think Dana said that Turkey was committed to other things already. Okay. And then we're going to have ours going on as well. So I think that's potentially why he brought up the June and the May 2nd thing. May 2nd Times Square, I don't think that's what this either.

I think this is probably, that's something he is- That's Ryan Garcia, right? Yes. That'll be sick. He's back. That's something he's probably already committed to, business-wise and promotional-wise. And then what Nick, Dana and Turkey are going to create

is a new entity, seemingly, going- September. Starting September 12th with Robert Cannella Canelo yeah which has not been confirmed but certainly ask him about September wasn't denied either and Dana just going no we'll do today's announcement is that this is happening timeout we got another day of announcement turkey tell him tell him tell him aboutelo? Yep. And Danny goes anything is possible With turkey being like I wish turkey would have dropped in but yes Canelo That would have been awesome

Uh, what a convo. What a wild day. We can't thank you all enough for joining us. ArtH We're gonna get out of here Big night out date to be released uh Monday, okay. Nice. Okay out of here big night out date to be released Monday okay nice okay feels like I didn't think about that decision before I said I like it Monday's a big day. Fire from the hip. Monday. agency Monday Monday Monday Monday Monday we'll release the date of said show and then tickets will go on sale shortly afterwards because this is all happening relatively soon. That is the only tip or hint that we will be dropping.

Millions and millions of dollars will be given away that evening. There will obviously be huge surprises. Actually just got texted a new one that has been confirmed. And pretty excited about that. Oh yeah. Piecing together something I believe will be considered unprecedented, but also at the end of it we'll say we need to do that more often.

We need those types of things more often. Hopefully this will trigger others to maybe do something similar or for us to continue to do these. It should be a beautiful night of celebrating life and hopefully bringing people together because that's what it's all about even though it seems like my name and things that i say are certainly for it's not what i'm trying to do at all ever okay hopefully just trying to bring people together and i think on this particular evening on big night out in pittsburgh

pennsylvania it'll be on display fully all right be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life awareness oh no no no, oh no, no, no, no, baseball, fuck. This doesn't happen often. Ever, well. When we need to talk about baseball, it is normally whenever something that doesn't happen on a regular basis in the history of the sport happens. And we have to address it because we are a sports program.

Baseball obviously not a sport that I am very well informed on, did not grow up playing. Obviously grew up in Pittsburgh so I understand Jason Kendall's pop times have hurt. And the Pirates have always stunk since I've been alive so I haven't really invested in it. Been more of a hockey guy instead of a baseball guy. But as I've grown older I've understand to come to realize what is respectable about the sport. It is something that takes a long ass time so you need to be committed for a long ass time. You got a lot of games so you need to be committed to your team for a long ass time, so you need to be committed for a long ass time. You got a lot of games,

so you need to be committed to your team for a long ass time. You gotta have incredible skill, obviously, to do something that's very difficult, which is hit a baseball. And speaking of baseball, those who are throwing them right now are throwing them better than ever.

Paul Skeens going to the Pittsburgh Pirates is exactly what got me back into baseball. And then you start watching Shohei do his thing, and everything that's happened with Juan Soto and the amount of money that he's making. And the big teams, with the the big leagues with the big guys Having great runs. He's certainly good for the sport But I turned on an Atlantic 10 game the other night and I'll tell you what I seen something that I need to see more

In baseball not a single home run tie, but this second inning is being talked about just the second inning is being talked about everywhere Yeah, this is the most runs scored in an inning of baseball I think in what 42 years something like that George Mason taking on Holy Cross not exactly two powerhouses But if you just watch this clip like you said no home runs You're seeing a lot of seeing eye singles a lot of tappers back to the pitcher errant throws errors that kind of stuff total in this inning Okay, so Errant throws, errors, that kind of stuff. Total in this inning. Okay, so George Mason, first batter up in the inning,

he grounds out and then Holy Cross proceeds to basically give up 19 straight base runs. Okay. 19? How many people are on the team? Nine, so nine guys hit, then 19 consecutive batters reached base. They sent 28 guys to the plate in the inning total like I said, they scored 23 runs

Okay, so the 19 hitters that reached base it was walk hit by pitch fielder's choice or Singles, okay. They had four doubles to drive in the runs, but I mean we're not talking home runs We're not talking triples. We're talking little tappers back to the pitcher guy throwing it over the first baseman's head throwing it over the catcher's head stuff like that Little seeing eye singles. This is the type of inning that you I mean, probably honestly probably We won't see this again in our in our lifetime jet pass and lays it out here This is the exact run through of the entire the entire inning. Holy Cross had five pitchers In the inning and committed three errors now

They did I will say for Holy Cross. They made it respectable. Okay, they came back They scored six runs. So they only got beat by 20 They were down 23 to nothing after this inning which you know, yeah, it's tough second and it's early in this thing Oh god, and we got a lot of baseball left and I was watching this, the right field, right fielder for Holy cross. Got to see, got to see one ball. So that guy's just standing out in right field for like an hour and 15 minutes. So picking his ass doing whatever you can't Chow in college. I don't think I'm sure they've cracked down on Zen.

So that guy's just standing out there just wanting to kill everybody on his team, every pitcher, every infielder like Jesus Christ. Honestly, he may have quit. I don't know if he's still on his team, every pitcher, every infielder. Like Jesus Christ, honestly, he may have quit. I don't know if he's still on the team today. Because if you're in an inning like that, you at least want a little bit of action. At a certain point- Let me contribute, let me gun somebody down. Or you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna throw this

from the outfield as hard as I can. I might try to throw it over the backstop. Fuck it, we're at- Everybody else is- Yeah, exactly, we're already getting beat by 23 runs. There's no way in hell we're gonna win this game. But this is why college baseball is also awesome because you're going to get some of the top end stuff in the sec where we're seeing guys like Paul skeens and guys who are going to be, you know, first round talent who we're

going to see in the major leagues in a couple of years. And then you're going to get some teams like Holy Cross who on any given day could give up 25 runs in an inning. You know, can't feel the ground ball. Can't throw the first base. Can't make the right decision. I watch baseball very limited. And even if you hear three, three, three, like where you're trying to throw the ball to, seems like they made tactical errors

like 15 different times. So they're throwing the second, guys are already going to third, then they overthrow to third. Oh, and there's shit going on that you, that you may may be seeing like if you're like got like a good eighth grade team And you're playing against like a really shitty eighth grade team like the oldest trick in the book You got a guy on first base You got a guy on third base You have the guy steal second base and see see what's gonna happen because there's a good chance that when he steals second base

They're gonna try to throw him out He's gonna be safe and then that guy on third just gonna run home like that is that's like a little toy with them yeah exactly and usually either the second baseman the shortstop is gonna come up cut off that throw and boom you peg the guy at home and you get it out you at least get one there but they're just thinking like hey the fuck it let's let's have the guy on first steal there we are guaranteed to score that guy on third base it happened a couple times you know just little shit like that like you mentioned you know a little dribbler

down the line which should be a single well you fast forward a little bit it clears the bases and somehow that guy ends up on third base how the hell did that happen? and then you fast forward a little bit later well wait a minute the bases are loaded now and then they walk two guys in a row three guys in a row getting a couple more... bases still loaded! yeah bases still loaded and somehow they've scored four runs since last time the base I mean it just it crazy and like I said, you probably especially in a cow a d1 college game like We will we'll probably never see someone else score 23 runs in anything in our lifetime Well doesn't Holy Cross have an easy series coming up

I looked it up someone I think was just Josh and someone basically said like well at least for Holy Cross It gets a little bit easier. They have a weekend series coming up against Georgia who's ranked in like Yeah, they play like toast in or something like that Actually with cheetah is they were scored 21 runs in an inning not to you know About 20 years with cheetah state look yeah with cheetah state that that type of shit is going on Like I can you throw up passes tweet again because at some point in this situation probably after let's say Maybe feel just choice. Maybe that double second double down it like you just got to start a fight

Maybe that double second double down it like you just got to start a fight We can't let you run 23 you get the 12 13 All right, we looking at who's gonna start this fight and get four of us thrown out. Let's get this game cancelled Yeah, let's get it. It's qualified Crazy cuz they open up the season against Auburn who's ranked in the top 25 and they beat him Yeah, that's thing about baseball though when there's Whenever those mitts get dry and those arms get cold, you can get 23 hung on you real quick. What'd you say?

Is there a run rule? There should be. I think after seven innings there is, but this was in the second inning. This was early. So we still got a lot of ball to play in a kind of scratching clock. When we're younger, there's a 10 run rule, but yeah.

Shout out to you, Lenk 10. Thank you for having electrifying baseball. How long do you think that inning was? A long time. Hour and a half. We five-exed it, I think speed-wise. There's a ten run rule. But yeah shot to you like ten. Thank you for having electrifying Hour and a half we five exit I think speed was yes And we three exit was like three minutes long still and that's still just like that's that's just like cut up live action That's not like the picture getting ball back going back. Me. Jesus Christ. I've thrown four straight balls I need to take take a fucking lap around the mound here pick up the rosin bag, toss it around, do whatever. Like I pitch change. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Guys getting warmed up, mound visit. Like it was probably at least an hour and a half, if not longer. That's exactly what baseball is looking for. Hour and a half long inning. Yeah. Slow it down.

Half inning. Especially with a bunch of singles and hit by pitches and four, four pitch walks. I saw the seven people in the crowd. They had to think to themselves, holy shit, is this a record? Oh, you kidding me? Out there too, it's probably like 40 degrees

and windy as shit, like just miserable weather. That guy in the blue jacket's like, he had never seen anything like this before. He fired off so many texts. I think like seven in probably, they're like, got good in and go right now. 15 in, you should see what's going on right now. We got 20 fucking runs.

I think we got 20 runs looks over. 23 runs, he's sending texts I assume. There's some bafflement I would assume from everybody around baseball about this. And- This is the one. Yep. What are you doing throwing a second with a guy?

No. You just don't see that typically, you know, in D1 college baseball. Three guys just sprinting for a ball in the outfield there, you know, I assume two cops could be elsewhere Tough look. Yeah, you know who went to Holy Cross. Who's that Bob Cousy? Bob Cousy What an innovator the one would go to hey just know this there ain't no brawn brawn without Bob Cousy. Okay, they go nobody Do you saw that nobody with thought it if this guy didn't put the ball in between his legs or do no look pass Nobody and would have ever thought of it. Yes

one of the goats Cousy love you. There's behind the back passes were pretty legit though Love you. There's behind the back passes were pretty legit though His game is age will yeah it has he had a couple touch passes He still don't think he ever worked on his offhand dribbling. That's for sure. Yeah, he's working on hook shots Yeah, but I was doing with his left hand. You need it. Yeah, cuz you remember everybody just did this number here So whenever he went here, I mean he already had the shit. Yeah checkmate brother checkmate fucking over here And then whenever he got over here, he's like well now it's in this hand I gotta do something special with he's like fucking hook. Okay, you get the left left-handed hook

What year was this? What year did he play? No, yeah 55 to like 69 50 to 69 around I like that we're using Technology to color the video, you know? Yeah, no, Wilt actually played a little further after Kuz, and we still don't have that 100-point game, so. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, pretty good quality here. Oh! Swing! He didn't let us in. No look out of Kuz. Shad of Kuz. Love you, Kuz. A lot of suits and ties in that audience.

I like that. I respect that. Expensive. Cigarette smoke, too, probably. Oh, yeah. I'm forcing Kuz left. Yeah right Kuz is fucking going behind the back on you so quick like hot sauce. I'm forcing him left-handed dribble I need to see. He's running off your forehead like the professor brother. How do you got a left-handed hook and not a left-handed dribble?

Fosse thing. He had a left hand he just didn't need it against these bombs Like that Oh my god, Coos is a dog Coos is one of the goats I'm serious. Look at that So this is what I've been saying this entire time. Lefty, that was a lefty dribble right there. He did do two dribbles there with the left hand. Oh, shit. Where's one? There's three.

There's three. Laughing at it. There's three. He just. One. All right, thanks Kuz. Love you Kuz. This just cements the fact that

basketball has evolved so much that if we were to compare people that played basketball back in the day to people playing basketball now, it's a stupid argument. To any sport. Got to compare? Any sport. It's any sport.

Anything. Yeah. Everything evolves. So shout out to Kuz and the boys for doing all the work to get the NBA to where it is now. Bingo. And on the same though, like you always say, guys guys could transcend, like you put LeBron with... Koozie would be. Yeah, exactly. You put Kooz in the NBA now, like he's still at 25. Tyrese maybe not the...

Yeah, exactly. The assist God. Right. Yeah, he's looking up at Bob Koozie. And Bob Koozie's actually giving a hand, a right hand for sure. He was the original White Chocolate. To lift up Tyrese. What's that? Koozie was the original White Chocolate. Oh, yeah, they called him what? They a milk Hershey's Hershey's milk or So I don't I don't think they know I don't think they did that Really? No mentions of chocolate Really those are some old times man. Well, what was the documentary called? We don't like each other No, I forget what the docs call but it's good You don't want me to watch it. No, no, no. I absolutely want you to because it's just

it's just a big Celtic suck fest. So it's basically about how cool the Boston Celtics are. But oh, boy, some some bad times back then. I'm glad I live in this area. That's Boston. They did hire the first black coach in major sports. Oh, yeah. They drafted a lot of the first black players.

So like, absolutely, there were racist people in Boston to Tony's point, but there were a lot of racist people all over the place. In a lot of cities. And Boston was more so like the most forward thinking NBA. Which is why we can never forget, we're in a good spot. Let's keep getting better. We're not perfect, but we can work towards it.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me, team on three. One three one two three oh we got some breaking news at the buzzer at the buzz okay buzzer beater not in the midday news buzzer beater Zach bond has signed back with the Philadelphia Eagles, including with $34 million guaranteed at signing three years. $51 million, $1.5 million in escalators possible. That means he's getting most of his money. The contract instantly makes Bond one of the highest paid linebacks in the NFL.

Zach Bond goes from being a special teamer, a guy that isn't on the field much for the Saints, goes up to Philadelphia, becomes an absolute dog for the Super Bowl champions and they give him money. Congrats to Zach Bond finding the right spot for him and Vic Fangio said, listen, Zach, you can do whatever you want to do, including maybe even be a finalist for defensive player of the year,

which is exactly what he did with this Eagles team. What a perfect fit for a squad. What a perfect fit for a scheme. And what perfect fit for a scheme and what a guy getting paid off for all of his hard work in an incredible season for the Johns in Philly. They pay Saquon whenever they didn't have to. They pay Zach Bond whenever Zach, there's no way Zach thought this was what his future was gonna look like in his NFL career with how it was going. Congrats to him, congrats to the Eagles. How he's making some plays D-Bud. Making some plays, and shout out to Zach Bond.

Man, everybody's career is different, everybody's journey is different. You talked about it being a special teamer, being a guy that played on the edge. And then you get your real first opportunity to be an off-ball linebacker and break the bank. And this is a position, kind of similar to running back in safety for a while,

got devalued for a little bit. So I'm glad he got his money in the Primus career and a real cornerstone of that big fan Geo defense going forward AJ What are your thoughts on Zack bond the linebacker is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers? You know what I loved about Zack bond obviously he started out the year We heard about him throughout the regular season how great he was but this dude like even Elevated above that for the playoffs like when things mattered in the playoffs in the Super Bowl

The dude continued to step up over and over again. So that's why, what a great, it's funny how the timing must work with him. Obviously he feels good physically, feels good mentally, and then he gets to the Eagles in this scheme for whatever reason. Obviously this is what suits him very well and the dude made plays every single week. So that's why football is awesome, man. You do this, you get rewarded. Hey, if you go above and beyond of what we may have thought, you're gonna go be paid one of the highest paid linebackers in

The NFL which yeah, tell him that a year and a half ago. You think he believes it? Absolutely not. It's a meritocracy It's a beautiful thing. Congrats to Zack. You're a Super Bowl champion and a wealthy man Philadelphia Eagles keep one of their own Be a friend tell a friend something I say my change your life or anything together team on me team on three one, two, three