The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1306 - The Start of a New NFL League Year, Dan Orlovsky, Tyrese Haliburton, Shaquille O'Neal, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about the different free agent signings around the NFL and await the news of where Aaron Rodgers will ultimately decide to go as he seems to be the last QB domino to fall, plus they chat about the NHL, NBA, and everything else happening in the sports world. Joining the progrum to chat about all the different QB movement in the offseason thus far and his thoughts on the incoming draft class is 12 year NFL veteran at QB and ESPN NFL analyst, Dan Orlovsky. Next, 2x All-Star, All-NBA player, and starting Point Guard for the Indianapolis Pacers, Tyrese Haliburton joins the show fresh off a game winning four point play against the Bucks to chat about the season thus far, and how things are going to start heating up now that the playoffs are drawing closer. Later, 4x NBA Champion, 3x NBA Finals MVP, 15x All-Star, 14x All-NBA, analyst on Inside the NBA, one of, if not the most dominant Big Men of all-time, Shaquille O’Neal joins the show to chat about his new BeatBox drink, the state of the NBA, and his thoughts on this season thus far. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this Happy birthday NFL Wednesday March 12, 2020. This program starts now Football Celebrating a massive day the new league year and the official free agency signing period begin at four o'clock today. Congrats the NFL Yeah, no trip around the Sun And you know this marks the beginning of a new league year. Everybody at the bottom of the mountain trying to chase the Philadelphia Eagles who grind and pounded their way behind a great offensive line and Saquon Barkley all the way to the top of Lombardi Mountain. They are our current world champions and today every organization you would hope would be leaving no stone unturned on the pursuit to becoming world champs at the end of this particular season.

Now we all thought maybe, you know, the NFL would not be able to survive another year. Yeah, maybe last year was their last season. Turns out they're back and Salah Cap's bigger than it's ever been. Contracts are larger than they've ever been. More ratings and eyes on the game than it's ever been. Contracts are larger than they've ever been. More ratings and eyes on the game than there's ever been. More ways to enjoy the game than there's ever been. And it's a wonderful time for the NFL. So congrats to them and happy birthday.

Happy birthday to the NFL. That's nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Has a F1 hoodie on that season starting this weekend. Sure is. I don't know how that survived. No. Thought that was gonna be one of the ones that didn't have another season. But this going to be the year where we're going to

pay attention to this. Yep. We're going to dive in. We're going to pay our respects to racing that happens in Europe. Doesn't mean it's the pinnacle. Happens everywhere. Well yeah I heard they've been trading our shit. Yeah, Diner Miami. We got lost on the track trying to get into the building. Yeah we did. In a Sprinter van. It was a great time, wasn't it? It was. Oh, it was. So I kissed the pavement, did the whole thing,

so I could taste some of the rubber. F1 starts this weekend? Yes, in Melbourne. OK, well good luck to all the F1 drivers. Whatever. Maybe a little bit faster, exciting racing this year. That'd be cool. We got a different bedding favorite

to win it all this year. Vanderstop, and if he's racing, we know he's going to win this thing. That's what we would think. I mean, I would take the money plus money on him, but Orlando Norris, McLaren driver. Orlando Norris! His favorite, yep. Orlando! We know Orlando pretty good. He won a couple races that he wasn't supposed to win, remember?

He did. Because I think Vanderstoppen was in the lead, and then Lando says, I want to go, and he said, I'm not doing it, and they did a little joke. Right? Is that Lando? Lando was the guy who could have won the race, ended up letting his teammate Oscar if he actually won it. Okay so that's how I know. Big um. He won in Miami. And that's when we learned that you guys aren't actually racing. Not trying to win.

Yeah now you're not trying to win because the person that was winning the race was told. Good teammate. Yeah but I thought we're trying to, nonetheless this is the year F1. This is the year. Have fun boys. Good luck down here in Australia. Down under you know as they say. The NFL, though, obviously cooking.

They're dropping, as Foxy put up there, they're dropping a football over in Times Square. So cool. Beautiful. You know, crowds are already gathered to watch football drop. Now, I was just in New York City on Monday. It's alive. Really?

Weather, I think it might have been the first day where it was very good weather. We've gotten a couple different fake springs, little pump fakes. It was perfect. The weather was awesome. It was an active city. I mean, there was people, every crosswalk, it was damn impossible to kind of turn to go a different direction because of how many people were out and about running, biking,

living. You know, it was like, it was beautiful to see actually. It was really fun to be a part. Sucked to drive anywhere. You know, it wasn't, wasn't necessarily a good thing for the time it took to get to said Madison Square Garden. But I assume this is going to be very active. I assume this is going to be a good shot and shot to the NFL.

I'm sure some middle manager came up with this idea and they said that is the only way to launch the 2025 NFL season. That's big brain stuff. That's big brain stuff. Everybody will see. Do it Times Square obviously the talks the tables here at Boston Connor and at Tyshmet good to see you Ty you've missed a lot here with the free agency tampering period we are very happy that you are back how do you feel about where

the Packers stand we haven't got any takes at all from the Green Bay contingency on this particular free agency over the last 48 hours? Yeah, first and foremost, it's great to be back. You know, it sucked missing the last couple of days, especially with all this stuff going on, because when you're not in it, it's so hard to keep, I mean, like the amount of deals that are happening, like it really is head spinning when you're not in here

and being able to, okay, okay, okay. I'm okay with what the Packers have done so far. My whole thing was, I just want them to get a couple vets because I'm tired of the, hey, this is the youngest team in the NFL. They kind of proved last year, especially down the stretch, they need some guys who have kind of been there

and done that before to maybe shore up the locker room a little bit. So, I mean, they got a guard, anytime you're going to add offensive linemen, especially as we've seen in recent years, with how much they ran the football last year, I kind of like that. You know, I can't say I've ever really heard of the guy before, to be honest, but he started for the last year. Exactly. Exactly. More and more of that this year. And then, you know, they do get a cornerback from from the Raiders who they're gonna they're gonna end up losing both their cornerbacks

So it's kind of one of those things where I've known in years past like the Packers don't it doesn't matter How much cap space they have or how little cap space they have? They're not gonna be super active like a lot of teams are so anytime, you know, I was saying like hey I want them to go get DK Metcalf I want them to check in on Trey Hendrickson like they're never gonna do that You know the chances that's just stupid and wishful thinking. So we'll see, there's still a couple, you know,

vets out there that are available. They need to get a receiver though. I like, I, they really, really need to get like, and they, they missed on like a true number one, I guess, but they need some help there. But you see what everyone else in the division's doing. That's kind of why it's like, hey, let's go. Like let's make some moves here.

Lot of action in the RC North North obviously it was one of the best divisions in all the ball last year that's only gonna continue we would assume even though the Vikings JJ McCarthy is their starter currently who knows what the future holds for them since you've been gone great song. I can't breathe for the first time. I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah. Do you know this song? Hell yeah.

I think we were boozing by. That's a banger. Okay. Audemos. I couldn't tell you who it was by either. I don't know who. Kelly Clarkson. Kelly Clarkson.

Of course. Oh, that's Kelly? Yeah, that's our first. Hey, she can sing. Kelly Clarkson can. She can that's Kelly. Yeah, that's her first. Hey, she can sing. Kelly Clarkson can. She can sing the shit out of it. Got the pipes. She has her own show.

And whenever we're off, my wife watches it, so I see it. And it's like, she just does karaoke for like 15 minutes of the show. And it's just her murdering everybody else's song, like just singing it better than... I'm like, you should just do this every fucking... This should be an hour. Oh yeah. she does interviews great interviews obviously she does jokes yeah great jokes does good Q&A but the karaoke it's like hey Kelly nobody on earth can do what you and she knows it I think oh yes a weapon anyways since you've been gone you know this guy don't

watch hockey I mean it was pretty insane hockey talk yesterday. It all revolved around basically Connor has quit on the Boston Bruins. Not quit on them, he's quit on Sweeney who's the general manager of the Boston Bruins because they traded Marshawn to the Florida Panthers. Florida Panthers obviously the biggest rival in recent memory of the Boston Bruins especially as the reigning Stanley Cup champions. And they met for the first time, I don't know if you know this last night Marshawn back on the Boston ice with the Florida Panthers Florida Panthers reigning Stanley Cup champs guess who won a game last night who

Boston Bruins guess who didn't watch who this guy he could have a great night last night and it with a fight too you guys won at the end and a fight I mean it could have been a great night for you you are choosing to not cheer for the Bruins strictly because one guy is seemingly trying to tear it all down, but you got to continue to support. Don't you feel that way? Yeah, still support the players. You know, Swamen, McEvoy, Pogchamp.

Oh my God, Swamen let one, Swamen let one. They went to a review. They went to a review actually to see if it was in because it ended up across. This was like with a minute 20 left in the game down one. It was a great ending. I mean, it was electrifying. And I texted you immediately like, Oh no,

Swainman just let a squeaker through, bro. And it did look bad. Then he ran the audio whistle blue. Great win by the Boston Bruins. Yeah, huge. It's awesome. Now that I'm not watching, they probably will go on and win the Stanley Cup.

But I still had a fantastic night, you know, catching up on the Boston Celtics documentary, going back, you know, to the sixties and seventies in Boston was real fun. Definitely not. You learn a lot. Definitely nothing terrible going on then, but no, no, it was good to see that the Bruins are winning. You know, it's great that the boys are rallying around Saco, the best coach in the NHL kind of my assumption was that Saco was gonna have the boys going once again and of course they still are but no huge one you know for the Celtics okay I'm glad that the Bruins are playing well but the Celtics once again are competing for that NBA championship playing the OKC

Thunder tonight going up against the 1C you know at home we're the favorites of course because as Rich Paul said you know to be the man you got to beat the man. And that's who the Boston Celtics are. So Rick Flair said that. I think Rich Paul, that was quoting something along to knock off the Kings to become the Kings. Yeah, exactly. Boston Celtics are potatoes, you know, potato potato. That's fine. Yeah, there you go. We can still, we can do all that. We can nickel and dime this conversation with the son. Which are still the champs. Okay. And that's kind of the bottom line here. I don't know if rich Paul said that as well, but no, I'm looking forward to that. Uh, but no hockey season has been fun. You know, it

was a real good ride ever, ever since we said the record for most wins, most points and in NHL season, it's been incredible. But now, yeah, unfortunately for a lot of Boston Bruins fans, their sites have been kind of altered from like Missoula a lot don't we? Yeah exactly we love Joe Jason they've already won a title ladies and gentlemen this team is very young you know this is kind of like the 2011 Bruins that's what we're seeing with the Boston Celtics right now they are incredible at the basketball so maybe we do you know let's just move over a little. Well, the Celtics are in trouble. I won't let you know.

Shot of the year is now calling Indiana home. What? Yeah, Tyrese Halliburton last night said, this is Tyrese Halliball game. And getting Tyrese Hallibuckets drifting sideways while foul on an inbound where they ran a tunnel screen basically down three against the Milwaukee Bucks gets fouled four point play to walk off a dub against the Bucks.

Now I guess it wasn't a walk off technically because Yonis had a chance to answer he would run down the court and air ball it but whenever Tyrese Halliburton buried the and won four point play the Pacers took a lead with three seconds left. This was electrifying live. I believe we will be talking to Tyrese Halliburton in about 50 minutes or so to kind of get his head space on the biggest shot he's hit. You know. Yeah.

Nah, I'm sure there was some playoff. Yeah, there was some playoff. That was so nasty. Last night? Dude, what a play. First of all, play design phenomenal. But running full speed and then shooting that back to your right as you're running full speed to like that's, that's insane. Oh, over. Yonis, you know, who knows what his wingspan is over Yonis.

And then obviously dames on the bench. So right in front of the game, that's just all time. She didn't follow it up with making a free throw after he tried to ice you as big time ball. Yeah. They wanted to review. If it was a foul or not, I think, or if he was in bounds, I think there was like, it felt like it was a 10 minute review. Yeah. And he said Tyrese sitting over there knowing he's about to shoot a free throw to win the game.

Now granted, potentially goes over time because it is tied at the time they're not down, but he knocks it down pure. I mean, there wasn't even a doubt on the free throw and we need it. Obviously, Bucks and Pacers in the playoff conversation and Tyrese SaliburBurton Perfect face of a franchise this guy especially for the Indiana Pacers last night He was wearing the DX Pumas that he had specially made he actually shouted out. Mr. H numerous times In the postgame presser said that if he would have gave the suck it it would have been a $25,000 fine By the NBA worth it. So he said he said it wasn't been a $25,000 fine by the NBA worth it so he said he said it was it he wasn't gonna take the fine we will ask him or 25k

get a guy especially after that we can figure out 25,000 bucks there of course I'm right can we I think he's trying to respect the game trying to respect the boys and also let everybody know that he is a wrestling fan always has been always will be had a double-double last night, obviously not his biggest night of the year, but he had a double-double in the DX shoes and hits a game winner and has a four-point play. That's a pretty good way to launch the DX Pumas. So congratulations to Tyrese Halliburton

and the rest of the East, I'm sorry about it. Y'all can suck it. The Pacers are getting hot at the right time. And we'll talk Tyrese at 1 0 5 Eastern time. That'll be about 50 minutes from now Text him last night, you know superstar, you know this guy. Yeah now we have Shaquille O'Neal joining us at 2 30 Eastern He was on the air immediately after this game Listen to them talk about everything happening certainly fascinating left go out there doing this thing. He looks so cool Oh, yeah, great. She looks so cool When they came back to the studio after this game, Lefkoe was

actually clapping for the game. He's like, that was a good game. Like, that was good. It was. Is basketball back? Is basketball bringing it? Feels like if they're gonna have magical moments like this happen on random Tuesdays. Why not? We'll talk to Ty Reese. Can't wait for that. One half of the hammer Cowboys ball-capped tone here tone Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously Beautiful st. Patrick's Day Irish yeah hat you got it right there Topical feels good. Thank you Pittsburgh Steelers fans are awaiting a quarterback decision Yeah, what is kind of the state of Pittsburgh right now?

Cuz let me tell you what happened. There was a video that somebody retweeted of Aaron Rodgers talking about Pittsburgh. You know, because Big Mike McCarthy's from Pittsburgh. He's got a lot of friends from Pittsburgh. This is from years ago on our particular program. Somebody retweeted it, so it came up in my, you know, algo yet again, and I'm like, oh yeah, this needs being a zeitgeist, right? They say something because of how much,

he is certainly being associated with Pittsburgh and playing for the Steelers. Not just them, I think the Giants are in the conversation and a lot of people are saying, is he gonna go to the Vikings, even though the Vikings have not come out and there has not been rumors that the Vikings and Aaron talking.

We know nothing. I retweeted that video though. I guess I should have known that this was potentially gonna happen. All of Pittsburgh basically was like, oh, I know and he's going to Pittsburgh. Seemed like there was people very excited about it. Then there was people that are indifferent about it. It feels like, is I know and he's going to Pittsburgh. Seemed like those people very excited about it, then there's people that are indifferent about

it and it feels like is there gonna be any decision at quarterback that the entire city is gonna be rallied around and what are your thoughts on Aaron potentially being your quarterback and once again I just retweeted that so people know like the guy loves to sit like if he was to go to Pittsburgh, loves the city, thought it should be in the world that we're in right now especially with how much his name is being thrown to Pittsburgh I did not that's not me saying I know shit. I don't I don't I do not know anything I wonder if he does you know hmm, and you know you can text him and call him sure

But what if he doesn't answer typically bingo like for five days or sure which maybe has me Before we go live cold FaceTime come on come on come on come on come on come on come on Give us something no answer then get a text back like hey, everything's going good or whatever It's like all right You know we just want to hang it a little bit of a lean at least on what this could be so I know Nothing, but I thought that video could be good for the current Conversation because he does have massive respect for the city for Tomlin for everything in the people over there How do you feel and what do you think Pittsburgh's thoughts are and what's quarterback situation is right now?

So to your question, is there a quarterback out there where the fan base is gonna be happy? No, that person does not exist at this moment You put out a couple pulls yesterday on Instagram and Twitter on who people thought that quarterback would be and a lot of people think it's Going to be Aaron Rodgers right now, whether it's Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson, you know Apparently there's some rumors out there. It could be Mason Rudolph. Oh, um, what that's probably that's um, that's a situation We're hoping doesn't happen, but you know love Mason I don't think Rudolph's coming in to be a starter, but maybe he'll compete, you know I mean we're sitting at 20. I don't know if that person exists either. I personally and I I said this yesterday. I think I'm in the minority in of Steelers fans

Just because of Aaron's age and everything that potentially comes with Aaron. I'm not a believer in that I do think Aaron is the best possibility the best chance to win next year for the Pittsburgh Steelers now There's a contingent of people who voted ross. Who's that? Who's that? Zeno's computer? Zeno voted Russ. That's what I'm realizing right there. He's pulling for Russell Wolf. Yeah, he's pulling for Russell Wolf. Because that means Rogers would be in the NFC North maybe? Or the NFC East? That's what Zeno's pulling for I guess, if that's the case.

But everyone's waiting on Aaron's answer. 51,000 votes is a lot of votes 13 hours Everyone's waiting on Aaron's answer Who knows when that'll come and there's things that are definitely working against Aaron in Pittsburgh one being the national media You know the rumors out there that he's looking for a two-year 90 million dollar deal Which we believe to be false You know shranks And I think straight just meant this like in a in a glancing thing like he was like who knows when we're gonna get an answer from Aaron It could be one week. It could be two week. It could be three weeks

It could be four weeks then obviously everyone in Pittsburgh got mad of the idea of Aaron stretching people along for four weeks Which we have no idea if that's true or not. I looked into it today That is the Aaron Rodgers. That is the Aaron Rodgers thing though Yeah, like Shrager says, you know, we don't know when this answers facts Factuals that we don't know when it's gonna be could be one could be three says, you know, we don't know when this answer is fact, factual statement, factual statement. We don't know when it's going to be. Could be one, could be three, could be, you know, and then people in Pittsburgh. Isn't this guy so fucking special? And it's like, did Aaron say, did Aaron talk to Schrager? So Pittsburgh media right now is basically thinking he's looking for 45 million years, dollars a year, and it might take a month to get an answer, which, you know, we have no idea if that's true.

And with everything else you potentially have heard about Aaron, you know that probably similar Similar vein stuff. It's like yeah, that's this prima Donna piece of like and people in Pittsburgh can feel that way pretty quick Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wins games bingo Yeah, no one cares. No one cares City of Pittsburgh is a place where if you win some football games brother Come on in man. I got some good news. I looked into it. We are in day 11 of this current moon cycle. We're in the Waxing Gibbius. We have a full moon on

Friday the 14th. So I think if Aaron's moon rocks are fully charged on Friday. See that's a little condescending. He can get some answers. We can potentially get some answers. It's out man. I think it might make the decision Saturday, Sunday, after he talks to the moon gods and stuff like that. Okay. Come on. I know there's people in Pittsburgh, some close to me who said they won't watch a game

if Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback. Sure. How close to you? Super close. Like I came from his nutsack. Close. Your papa? What's that all about?

Why is coach not close? He listens to too much local sports talk. So there's a lot of people there. Yeah, that's what happens. I would like to let coach Diggs know that if Aaron Rodgers ends up being a quarterback for the Seahawks, which once again we do not know, there is a beautiful pair of front road tickets on the 50 right behind the Pittsburgh Steelers to game one that we would like to offer you We'll see if he's not watching. Mm-hmm, you know coach Diggs will go. Come on. Yeah Can you imagine coach Diggs after Rogers throws four touchdowns for the Steelers? Need the bike shorts, yeah, yes, I stand on the fact that Aaron is the best thrower of the football available right now I think that's pretty obvious and when you go and get out the get the weapons that

you have I know Artie and the Steelers want to run the football but you need to also throw the ball we saw that a ton last year. I think Aaron's the best option and that's why I'm still hoping. Okay well we shall see when his answer comes maybe it's next year. You never know. That's just happening and then people getting pissed at Aaron Rodgers cuz Schragers are opining about something that could happen. I just got a stat from Hembo. Number one in the NFL in completion percentage targeting vertical routes in 2024 was who? Russell Wilson.

Yeah. 56%. So maybe- Well that's Russell. Good vote, Z. Yeah. Maybe Russell is the answer. Joining us now is a man who I'm sure has an opinion or two

about all of this. He is the face of quarterback coverage on ESPN. He calls games. And ladies and gentlemen, he's an absolute icon in the sports media world. Horrendous dude of Dude Perfect, Dan Rulofsky. Yeah. Oh, god damn.

Few Will Hunt. hell yeah, hell yeah American-made another subtweet. Yeah, what are you doing? Who's this? Who's this message to right here? Use this message. They wouldn't offer you a hunting show or something Now some dude, uh, I get got a gift for a t-shirt from one of our family friends. This family friend that we have got me a t-shirt from this company and it aligns pretty much with some of the things or a lot of the things that I believe in. So I went and got some more stuff. I think they're from Philly, the company.

Everybody wants to be a Lion until it comes time to do what Lions do. I got that too, restoring the dignity of hard work. Oh hell yeah. I like that a lot. So hard work is a work ethic I think is the most important thing, you know, which is why I feel the way I feel about what's going on maybe in this city, you know, at the in the football team. But hey, I got optimism. I got optimism. Let's stick with the Pittsburgh Steelers Aaron Rodgers, I think I saw you on TV say Aaron would be perfect for the Pittsburgh Steelers Then you immediately said I am keeping him the hell away from the Minnesota Vikings because he brings too much What does that mean? And when you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers situation Why is Aaron Rodgers the guy that you think should be the quarterback?

Ever since they traded for DK Metcalf, it became very clear that their offense just presents a problem. Immediately when they get out on snap as a defense, you're going, all right, what are we doing? Are we gonna try to play coverage? Cause then that'll help the, I mean, the Steelers have the worst run game

in the NFL over the last six years. Statistically, it's the worst yards per carry run, run offense in the NFL over the last six years. Statistically, it's the worst yards per carry run offense in the NFL over the last six years. So one of the ways that you help it outside of playing better offensive line wise is just have less people down near the football. Automatically that is going to be a question defenses have to ask themselves with DK and George. Now I've said from the jump, this has to have George as part of the equation and I don't know if it has become like publicly official that yes, he is staying because there has been some understand or understandably question marks attached to like,

is this mean the end for George Pickens? So he's got to be a part of that. But I just look at it and go and all right, there's a defense you got to ask yourself, you're going to play coverage or you're going to try to stop a run game that hopefully gets a little bit better. And I think that that presents really well for Aaron Rodgers. I don't think it's the perfect for me. It would have been Sam Darnold, but he's clearly, clearly, clearly the best option.

And I think it's clearly the clearly the best option for Aaron Rodgers. That's why I get a little bit unknown about what's taking so long to make the decision. The reason why I would not do it in Minnesota would be a massive mistake was you've already made the decision, Minnesota. JJ's the guy. Once you let Sam walk, you've made it clear

that JJ's the guy. Aaron's not going there to be a backup. Aaron's going there to try to go win the division and go to the Super Bowl. So this isn't open competition. This isn't hopefully you can play till JJ McCarthy's fully ready or healthy. This is we're trying to win the Super Bowl was one of the greatest ever. So and I would not do that to that young player. Well um okay so you wouldn't want another year of JJ McCarthy in the building healthy watching a veteran quarterback for one year?

I mean, depending upon how long Aaron's played, we know nothing from Aaron's side. We know nothing from Aaron's side. You don't think that that would be an okay move for JJ McCarthy as a whole long-term with his career is what you're saying. You think that you gotta be very careful with saying one year with a veteran quarterback.

Aaron's not a veteran quarterback. Aaron's one of the greatest ever. Aaron comes, whether people like disagree or agree or, there is a lot that comes with Aaron just because of what he's accomplished and the personality that he has. People love him, people hate him. And so you, are you really sure Minnesota, it's not just bringing a veteran quarterback in to maybe be the guy for one more year, you're bringing an Aaron Rodgers. That's different. And so when I think you allow Sam Darnold to walk out of the building, you're making the decision as an organization.

All right. The young kid is the play. This was the plan when we drafted them. It was trending that way in preseason. This is the play. This was the plan when we drafted them. It was trending that way in pre-season. This is the play. Now we are deciding that JJ McCarthy is gonna be the guy. And we wanna now have someone there to support him rather than threaten him.

You want somebody in Minnesota that is going to challenge JJ as a professional, not kind of threaten his job and leadership role within the team. Got it. Who do you think that would be just like a Somebody two three years in that's a backup quarterback type conversation like Kenny Pickett for instance going up there to Cleveland like a Kenny Pickett type quarterback. Is that what you're saying? Somebody that isn't you know as well?

I don't know known or Respected by his peers. No offense Kenny. Jesus Christ your Super Bowl champion Known or respected by his peers? No offense, Kenny, Jesus Christ, you're a Super Bowl champion. I know what you're saying. But I hope Kenny understands what I'm saying. Somebody that isn't like a, doesn't walk into a room. Kenny Pickett's the opening day starter for the Brahmys. Okay, well good luck to Kenny Pickett too.

He came in there and started spinning against the Philadelphia Eagles. Myles Garrett came back to win. Kenny Pickett's already won a Super Bowl. Last guy to touch the ball in Super Bowl. Kenny Pick I think I think the ideal guy would have been Daniel Jones that that would have been the you know, the ideal guy Hold on on that not gonna be on that note Dibot has a question for you and remember what your little notebook says Wow, I just caught me off guard But coach competition obviously brought Daniel Jones down here to compete with Anthony Richardson. You mentioned right after the news broke, does AR ask for a trade? So that aside, salaries aside, what do you think about this competition and who's

going to be the day one starter in your opinion in Indianapolis? The day one starter, I'm not ready to sit there and say like definitively. Come on, Dan, you have to. I don't have to. Yeah, I just, I just, the way I look at it, and this is why I said, is Richardson going to ask for trade? I'm not sitting here saying that teams are going to be knocking down the door to go get them type of thing.

He has had moments that have been very encouraged but it's hard to and you guys know this it's hard to just get rid of some of the I guess judgments that have been made against him especially in your own building and if all the conversation and the noise About how things were going down last year are true, I just think that's really hard.

You gave a guy $14 million upwards of $17 million to come and compete. That's a very clear message to Anthony. Now I've talked to people that have kind of disagreed with the Anthony wasn't working hard narrative. I not in the building that is in the building. Really? I have I have I've had people say no works hard, you know, prepares the right way. He's working hard. Now maybe it's not to the extreme that you want your starting quarterback, but people in in the building

as I've heard that. So whether it's true or not, I just think it's hard that once people within the building, I would imagine some people, because it has to come from somewhere, believe a certain thing about a player, it's just hard to shake that. And so I think it's Dando Jones got a great opportunity, but I think it's very clear Anthony Richardson, the organization's telling you like it's time to put up or shut up Yeah, and I'm optimistic, you know cuz debug gave me a motivational speech earlier today Diba gave me a motivational speech and I and I've read a lot of the blogs, you know About the from the Colts fans are all pissed off at me for just you know

Having a front- row seat to football for a long time, being very lucky to have that seat and just seeing a lot of people that don't end up being what they could be because of, you know, the way they go about doing their business. You know, a lot of it revolves around like a work ethic. A lot of it revolves around like having a passion for job and things like that.

So whenever you say you talk to people in the building, they've said that's interesting Let me ask you this question Lot to learn it's a big obviously it's brand new you're the quarterback and he hasn't played a lot of football either So coming into coming into the league coming into the draft. I think most people around football knew okay This is a boomer bus guy He's either gonna be this or he's gonna be that and it's a lot to figure out This is a boomer bus guy. He's either gonna be this or he's gonna be that. And it's a lot to figure out.

Have I seen it? You know, people change it year three, year four, and really learn how to start being a pro. Yeah. Are those few and far between? Absolutely. So as a Coach fan, yeah, I'm very optimistic in March 12th going into his third year that he starts to figure it out.

Me too. Me too. Dan Jones, a lot of people are excited about Dan Jones. More excited, I guess, than I am. But Dan Jones can turn the corner and figure it out. Me too. Dan Jones a lot of people are excited about Dan Jones more excited I guess than I am but Dan Jones can turn the corner and figure it out too But yeah as a Colts fan the guy that I want to be today won't start it in to figure it out and to do All the right things behind the scenes and show up on Sundays more importantly is Anthony Richardson going for it. I agree And you know what I'm the same way I read a lot of messages from Colts fans to me last night

They're being very mean you gotta do what you gotta do. I appreciate your passion. I hope he has the same passion for the Colts because that would be cool. And I think this year it could happen. You know, I think he could hear all this noise, see what happened. He got benched last year, you know?

And the things, the reasons why he got benched were very real and I think very much brought to his attention and told to him. And it's like, maybe he takes it all this off season rolls with. Has not played much football. Has not played much football has not played much football so I will say I have changed my tune I'm optimistic about anything all right I'm awesome oh yeah I think it's very difficult to do that stuff but I think why not why not a are why not he has no choice I mean he is so much talent so

much talent yeah that's why it's so like- I'm a supporter, I'm a believer. I've been Anthony Richardson fan since college. She's calling his games. Yeah, you're making up sources in the building now to say things that aren't real. Yeah, so- That one will probably get me in trouble,

but, and I know this, like Daniel Jones, listen, everything you hear about Daniel Jones, great teammate, hardest worker, puts it all, you know know does everything go right? Okay fast, okay Anti whatever that was getting said about you know that whole I guess situation last year, so I Think oh wait if a Beat out Daniel Jones, let's be honest, if Anthony Richardson,

in a very clear message from his organization, it is time to go, can't beat out Daniel Jones, then it's a miss on the draft pick. Agreed, agreed, agreed. Hey, good luck out there, boys. I was really glad. Thank you, thank you to both of you. Good luck to both of you in your competitions.

Now, there's been some quarterback moves during this free agency Tendering period here or whatever the fuck this has been because actually free and she starts today at 4 o'clock Connor has a question for you. Dan. Oh, yeah, Danny always a pleasure Gino to Vegas and Sam message Nothing go ahead. I missed what you said no please please enlighten me no no good Vegas and yeah okay all right kind of a wuss move there but yeah then then Darnold to Seattle obviously Seattle no DK no lock it they're kind of gonna look completely different as what they have in the past

and you know Gino down reuniting with Pete Carroll, kind of a cool story as well. How do you feel about those two moves? Yeah, yeah, the best, but also the worst. I'm super happy for Sam Darnold. It's static for Sam Darnold. You're going to a very different situation. And that's my thing for Seattle is don't take Sam Darnold and pay him this money and think you're not gonna have to add some pretty significant pieces in the next six

weeks or so and you're gonna get the same results. Sam went from arguably the best situation quarterback wise in the NFL, outside of maybe Philly, to one that is dire right now in Seattle. I love JSN. Jackson Smith and Jig was really starting to come on at the back end of last year. He's going to be a very, very good wide receiver. He had two really good wide receivers

last year in Minnesota. Three pretty darn ones, pretty good ones, if you include Naylor. Hawkinson's a star. They don't have that star tight end in Seattle. And the offensive line was top five, top seven in the NFL, specifically when it came to their pass protection. That is not Seattle's offensive line.

So while I'm ecstatic for Sam Darnold that he got his money, the situation is going to be very different unless some things get added to their offense. And my challenge to Seattle is you better add at least another starting wide receiver at a minimum. You better kind of include a tight end that's a little bit more of a difference maker. And offensive line's gotta get a lot better. Now, could be actor, offense coordinator runs the same system.

That should help the offensive line a little bit. But you know, if you go back to the last two games of last year, the main thing was, well Sam Darnold stinks. And then the main thing that I kind of was on board was like that offensive line got whooped. And that's kind of when he became a lesser player than he was last year. So I want to see what Seattle does.

I'm not ready to sit there and say we're going to get repeat performance by Sam unless things change. I like Gino in Las Vegas. Brock Bauer is really good. I think Las Vegas has OK receivers. I'm a big Jacoby Myers guy. But they're going to have to add some pieces as well. Offensive line is a little bit better than I think the play at quarterback made you think. Gino was fantastic last year with the bad offensive

line. But they need to add some pieces. I love the fact that he's with Chip Kelly. They need another starting offensive line. But I think G gives them this team the chance to just compete in games on a week-to-week basis for now Yeah, I like Gino's competitive spirit, you know, especially with the journey He's been on maybe Danny Dimes has a similar one But you know with Gino the way he's kind of got to this point I respect and the fact he turned down that deal with Seattle to go to Las Vegas to rejoin Pete Carroll in his mission And Chip Kelly over there as offense coordinator and Tom Brady seemingly on a day-to-day basis a

phone call away because I think he's all in Great scene for Gino Smith. Yep back to this. Yeah, the thing I'd say about that real quick though Pat also is Just because he's there doesn't mean they shouldn't draft a quarterback if they like one in the first round They absolutely should we think that with most of these teams to like giants like it Even if they get a vet they should probably if they like a guy they should draft a guy and do that the whole at least Give them a year to learn under which you know The Minnesota could do with JJ McCarthy yet again because he wasn't maybe in the building as much last year because he was hurt but hey don't want to

Stall any growth especially with what we're hearing about JJ what we're hearing about JJ is like guy like this is a guy is what everybody has been telling us I can't wait to watch it the draft is gonna be fascinating on that note tone has a question for you yeah I do Dan besides Shador and Cam Ward like is the number three quarterback whoever you think that is do you think they are worthy to be drafted in the first round oh Oh absolutely. So I still think Ken Ward's gonna go number one. If I was Tennessee that would be an easy choice for me right now. I think number two probably ends up being Shadour

Sanders somewhere. I don't know exactly where but I'd be surprised if he got outside that top ten world. I think that third quarterback is more than likely going to be Jackson Dart. I don't think Jackson Dart gets out of the first round. I watched Jackson Dart's tape and I go, what am I missing? I actually DMed Lane Tiffany hasn't gotten back to me, but I said, what am I missing about Jackson Dart? Because I think runner and athlete wise, he reminds me a little bit of Jalen Hurts. He makes some throws on tape. You're like, I mean, this is big time football. Now the pushback that, or I guess the, the hesitation that you have is there's two games late against, I think one against Kentucky

and one against Florida where he makes two or three decisions. Like, dude, what are you doing with the football in that moment? So I don't love that, but those are conversations you have to have throughout the process with these guys. But I'm a fan of Jackson Dart. I don't think he gets out of the first round. I texted field Yates. I don't think he gets to the Pittsburgh Steelers at number 21. Um, I just don't. I, when you watch his, the Georgia game, she's unbelievable in the Georgia game. And so,

and he throws the ball downfield as well as any quarterback in this draft. He's super confident with what he's looking at. a lot of people continue and I don't watched him yet And I'm going to but that a lot of people are talking about the Tyler Shuck player out of Louisville I can't make a comment on him because I don't watch them But I think those three guys are first rounders for sure I don't think I don't think Jackson Dark is out around one now Let's talk about Jackson too because he was out with the boys on Halloween I remember out with the boys on Halloween everybody Remember, out with the boys on Halloween,

everybody was mad at him, and they went for like 400 yards three days later. And I think the boys love him. Like I think Jackson Dart is beloved by his team. Obviously he's in the lane kiffing off him, so there is a lot of explosion and everything like that. He's been able to handle all of it. Ole Miss not in the conversation during the playoffs,

so everybody kind of forgot about Jackson, I think. All these guys on Pro Time TV, you get a little bit more convo. Cam and Shador Miss not in the conversation during the playoffs everybody kind of forgot about Jackson I think you know all these guys on time TV get a little bit more convo Cam and should or also not in there, but they are literally vlogging the entire process So Jackson door kind of disappeared from the conversation and then once people start pointing out like hey Jackson's be loved by people Then you start showing the highlights. It's like why not to move why not? Dan's point to which hurts him just in the public eye That Florida gaming I think was three interceptions in the fourth quarter when you know They win that game there in the playoff in that Kentucky game They were both national games where it just didn't look good in the fourth quarter

So I think that you know that kind of put a sour it was like Don't don't it was like the final drive as well We're in the weird thing is in both of those games drive as well. And the weird thing is in both of those games he plays really well and then he gets to the final drive and he makes two or three just outrageously boneheaded decisions and everyone will go well that's a bad sign or a red flag or is he panicking with the football but then there's so much other evidence of him not doing that and that's why I think like I've said this I remember talking about Will Levesse in this way, when you would go, I want to have the conversation and sit there

and ask him, what the heck were you thinking in this stuff? Because maybe he thought something different or saw something different, that you just get the explanation of understanding why they're thinking. But I think as a runner, he's a lot like Jalen Hurts, man. And as a thrower, he pushes the ball downfield so, so well. I'm a big fan of his. I honestly think he's close to quarterback two for some people. In the entire draft you're saying over instead of the cam chador conversation

that's currently taking place. I absolutely think he is going to be quarterback two for some people. All you need is one team to think anything. You know, one team think he's quarterback one and you can go. What about the offensive style, you know, coming from at Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss system and then going into the NFL because like Cam, Shador, McQueen like for like more pro style offense, what do you, would you have any concerns about that?

You watch Shador's offense, D-Bud? Heavenly father. Oh my gosh, man. Shador's offense, tough to watch, man. What do you would you have any concerns about that when you watch the doors offense Steve, but yeah heavenly father Oh my gosh, man. Should doors offense tough to watch man. I don't mind the lane kippen offense I think one I think one you take a ton of reps to see in space and seeing How the field and coverage plays out? I think number two your challenge to make really low Low percentage throws. So this isn't a think and dunk offense.

He's not kicking the ball to the perimeter on an outrageous basis, getting easy completions. You're taking shots down the field. Three, they ran real concepts. I have so many examples of full progression reads or full field reads a lot of RPOs Which again are part of the NFL. So I don't know how greasy is with protections There's a good examples of I write down you have no clue what protection is But that's kind of the case for most of these kids right now Yeah, so you gotta again sit down and have the conversations with these players throughout this process of tell me what you know about protections

I'll go back to last year with Jaden Daniels if you watched Washington Washington really ran one protection all season slide protection and Jaden just knew what the problem was that's what allowed him to play so fast and kill the Blitz so I'm I don't knock the Lane Kiffin offense for him Shador's offense for me is way harder to understand I would tell you I don't want to make this number up I would tell you at least 50% of Shador's offense for me is way harder to understand. I would tell you, I don't want to make this number up, I would tell you at least 50% of Shador's completions or throws are at the line of scrimmage. Just screen or RPO right now. And so, and then 25% of his passes are terrible pass protection and you're going,

well, there's nothing anybody can do. And so there's a small group of plays that you really can try to, for me, gather a fair evaluation of Shador. There's a lot that Shador does really well. I just think it's tough because you're either asking him not to do anything or there's no chance for him to do anything. And I think that's why for some people, they might get hung up on Shador

as a tough kind of evaluation. Well he's definitely tough I think that is something he proved with that offensive line that you talked about. Let's talk about Cam Ward now. Cam and Shador obviously training together as we should. Bunch of highlights there. Shador spinning it all over the place. Him and Cam. Really good. Really good player. You like Cam Ward a lot right? Yeah I think Cam Ward's the number one pick and it's clear to be the number one pick. I've said this I think the thing that surprised me more about Ken Ward than I anticipated was how well he throws the ball from the pocket. I mean there are so many examples where that ball he hits his back foot in the ground and that thing jumps out of his hand, jumps out of his hand and

it's an absolute rip and the ball down field I mean he throws the scene ball as good as anybody gosh I'm trying to think you know Jaden through the crosser really well But throwing the ball in between the hash he absolutely steps on the football and rips it And so it's clear to me that he's the normal picker reminds me a little bit You know ironically Steve McNair coming out of school and just his style. He's not an electric athlete. He's not a dynamic athlete, but he's athletic enough. And I wish he was an inch or two taller,

but Cam Ward clear number one pick. If I was Tennessee, I would not trade out of the pick. Tennessee Titans need a quarterback. Cam Ward is the quarterback they should take, says Dan Urlovsky. And Dan ain't stinky with that one. And stinky day you ain't stinky did only a few I'm trying to see my cam word notes.

My cam ward throws my pluses about cam ward doesn't get fooled post snap ball jumps off of his hands. It looks like he's thrown off the trampoline. It does not hesitate. We got a quick trigger. He does not force the football which a quick trigger. It does not force the football, which for again, a little bit surprising for a guy that I guess is ultra aggressive. That's a sick throw. Ultra aggressive and kind of a playmaker. Um, I think he's

really strong in the pocket with his feet in his eyes tied together. There's plays where you get examples of controlling the line of sc line of strength, changing some protection, changing some place. Scenes, middle field RPOs. There's multiple times where he takes over in the fourth quarter takes over and you're like, yeah, best player. That's just throws not you just pin it on his chest. Super accurate with the ball. Um, I think he makes you hold your breath at times, you know, cause you're like,

Oh gosh, what are you doing? Um, I don't have a lot of college. Oh gosh, what are you doing? I don't have a lot of college. Did you write, Oh gosh, what are you doing in your nuts? No, I just. Oh, that was ad lib there. Okay, you went off the prompt or got it. I like that. And honestly, I would tell you for both these guys as well,

both Cam and Chidor, they got to get some receivers that could catch the ball a little bit more. And so there's moments where your Cam's tape, I'd go, why are you forcing the ball to Restrepo? And then you watch it like, I know why you're forcing the ball to Restrepo and the same with Chador, why are you just only looking at Travis?

Yep, I know why you're only looking at Travis. So, doesn't have a blitz plan, you know, but again, that's the case for so many of these kids coming out of college. So, and he's an average athlete, but I'm a big fan of him. He's played a lot of football. Yeah.

A lot of football, obviously at different levels in Tarnet Ward, over there to Washington state all the way through Miami and that ACC run they had. And it feels like if you watch them last year with Miami, football gods love them. Yeah. Football gods absolutely love them. For this game. I mean, the, uh, yeah, this is where it all started. I think this was, uh, when the magical run kind of all started with the Virginia Tech because Virginia Tech had 20 returning starters

This is gonna be the tough one And then there's a Hail Mary full of grace that it connects and then a couple weeks later is a fumble that like There's just so many things that went their way this year except for the Syracuse game obviously at the end But feels like the football gods like Cam Ward as well. You do. OK, congrats to the Titans. They got a guy. Oh, yeah.

Congrats, Titans. Sounds like the Titans got a guy. On that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Dan, when you look around the NFL, which quarterback do you think is prime to kind of take that next jump up this next year? And do you see either one of the guys getting drafted? Could they have a season like Jaden Daniels did this past year potentially?

But there's two guys in the league right now that I think should I think will and have no reason not to No excuse not to So in the draft I'll touch that real quickly I think Tennessee needs another receiver outside of Calvin so that their offensive line should play better. I want to see them add another receiver. The Giants are intriguing because of Dable. We'll see if they do it. The same with Cleveland. You know, the Jets, Raiders. So I want to say the only one I feel really confident about right now is Cam as far as where he's going to get selected. I think the two guys that like one more so

than the other don't have any more excuses. So one Trevor Lawrence down in Jacksonville. I like what Jacksonville has done. Go back to the addition of, you know, Liam Cohen and bringing him and what he has done immediately for Baker Mayfield or did for Baker Mayfield. This is, you know, Brian Thomas Jr. is absolutely fantastic. We've talked about it. America probably didn't get the opportunity to see him a ton. He's a superstar in the making at the wide receiver position. Gabe Davis is there.

I like a lot of what Jacksonville has done. It's time for Trevor to take a big leap. It really is. Like, you're too talented of a player. I know it maybe hasn't been the most ideal situation for you at the start of your NFL career. And there was a moment with Doug Peterson where it was trending that way and it didn't. It's time to take the jump. There's all the pieces in place for you to become

what you were expected to become at that number one pick. The second one would be Caleb. You know, Chicago's had a fantastic off season. Gets the hottest offensive mind in football over the last maybe 10 years since Sean McVade got the job. Offensive line additions, interior, one, all those guys know this system. Tooney knows it. Drew Dahlman knows it. Jonah Jackson knows it. So the plug and play ability and the understanding of you're going to get protected. I think the biggest challenge for Caleb is trusting that the play call and the offensive line are actually going to do what you're telling me as a player. It's going to do. Cuz I do think there are moments where he didn't have that last year.

I know what you're telling me on paper, you're gonna protect me and this and that. I don't trust you. I don't trust the guys in front of me. And I think that's gonna be the biggest thing is Caleb getting to that point where he actually, when coach calls the play to get the ball in your hands, just get the ball in your hands. We're not asking for you to hit a home run here.

We just want a completion. Or when the defense tells you, you're not getting the home run, get the ball in your hands, quick, okay? And then when we take our shot, we take our shot. And if it's there, let's take it. And so finding the balance for him there, I think is the big challenge. But, you know, with DJ still there and the tight end group that

they have the backflip that they have the scheme, the offensive line, I expect Caleb to take a big jump. I was one that was hesitant. When the marriage of Ben Johnson and Caleb came together, there is a part of me that still is because I want to see Caleb do it in time and everyone talks about Well, look what he did with Jared Goff for all you people out there that say that Jared's really freaking talented now. I mean Jerry Now he's the guy Jared Goff Jared Goff, that's all they chant in Detroit That is their chant up there into your point

What I think you're about to say is Jared Goff plays in timing like that is what he does like that He is a grew up. He was trained by Sean McVeigh. That's the basis of the offense He was trained in it. And so when you're trained at early on it becomes muscle memory. It becomes second nature It's a habit Caleb doesn't have that so it might take some time. I've said this is he capable of it? Absolutely, but you got to go have that be a staple of your game But and I think for him as well as as much as you want him to take the jump I really attached Romo Doomsday taking a jump as well because to get this offense pass game wise to where you want it You those two receivers would be a big part. Yeah, and a lot of great points there. You didn't bring up Bryce Young fascinating

Yeah, and a lot of great points there. You didn't bring up Bryce Young. Fascinating. Bryce Young in the same boat. I want to see the matter wide out still. Okay. Bryce Young in the same boat of Caleb though I think didn't really trust offensive line for a while. Whitworth brought up whenever Tooney gets sent to Chicago Bears, Tooney can look at Caleb middle of the game and be like, hey, we got you here. Like, that's a type of like thing that an OG Like we, that's a type of like thing that an OG offensive lineman can do that can hopefully build up a little bit of trust in that. Because if you don't have faith in your offensive line,

and I know this as a punter, if you don't have faith in the person blocking for you, you're not thinking about executing, you're thinking about whether or not you're gonna die. Like that is literally all you're thinking about. So like survival is the thought as opposed to making a play, that can affect people, that can certainly affect people And that's all the defense is trying to do they're trying to get him to get his head down

Yeah, and make him get his eyes down just trying to make him I think about it so I can't do everything else Caleb that a lot of their takeoff number one's not instead of going Archie's number two number three art cool ball comes out Of my hand and you're totally right if you don't have that as a quarterback you you don't I think you see I'm not worried about The execution I'm just worried about something bad not happening yeah and that's why you see the running and sprinting every preseason and I obviously don't have every snap like quarterbacks do every preseason when we go at the punt and we got two McDonald's workers and an insurance guy

blocking for me and it's a lot easier to run and block a punt than it is to block four puns especially if you haven't done that the only thing that's going through my head is we are we are catching and getting this I mean it is just a whole bang we are out of here never thought about it. I got front flipped on hard knocks since I bangles guy comes around the edge on the insurance salesman I think and boom flows I do a full front flip land I take a front flip bump on my back on slow motion and hard knocks fucking the guy made the team because he blocked the punt. I'm like good for you buddy, good for you what a nightmare. Since that bag was always the fourth preseason

game that was the worst I didn't sleep tonight before. That's one of the first things we look at too as defense is like is the quarterback watching a rush. Now Caleb's not a guy that's a statue quarterback but are you watching the rush? Do you trust the protection and talking to AQ and other centers that's been around? They say it's a very small group of quarterbacks that actually control things that line the scrimmage. When you control it, I guess you can trust it more when you really understand it. Go ahead, Dano. Yeah, and if you guys going back to the college kids and I think this is why these guys, you got to spend time talking with them. If you had to

ask me what would be the number one complaint I have about Shadour, is I think sometimes he predetermines looking at the rush to get away. And easy to say, hard to do, because the offensive line is so poor in protection. But there's plays when you sit there and go, you're just looking at the rush. You're not even trying to get the ball to your hands and just hoping to create or go make something happen or create some space because There are moments when you watch him in the pocket. You're like man. That's such good pocket operational space movement and you're finding that little small pocket where you get to throw the football to or from and it's awesome and then There's clips where you're going you're just catching a snap looking at the rush immediately and going, okay, where's the opening? And, and I think that's, that's a real thing.

And I think that's something that is a team. You got to sit down and watch film with him. Like if I was watching film with Shador, I would be like, why did you do it there? They would tell me, tell me what went through your mind because I watch you get the snap. You might look one way and then immediately you almost get into that shortstop athletic position of, okay, where am I moving to instead of trying to find an over or an in or a check down and so to Deep Butts point you know I think that something is a defense you're watching taping going this happens far too far more than I actually like it to happen and I think

that's got to be a conversation that gets had when you're evaluating him sure Shador given an answer. Well, you did what you didn't see here is the previous six plays. Yeah. I actually got sawed in half. Yeah Did an interview where he talked about he his weakness was he tried playing here a ball Well way too much and I don't know if he was really what Dan was talking about there But he know I think he knew he knows his weakness is what he had to do in college I'm excited to watch the doors a pro because it feels like his entire life they've been making him a professional football player you know like that is I feel like I've watched it first of all on socials and

everything like that and I think he's gonna whenever he gets to his home wherever it is I think he's gonna do just fine same with Cam Ward work ethic you know you got a work ethic you can figure it all out if you don't yeah you know you're just gonna continue to be crap. So let's just work. Let's restore the dignity of hard work I respect the hell out of that. Thank you, Dan. Oh Hi boys What are you doing today? I gotta go drop off lunch. My wife runs the book fair at school

She sets the book fair up. She loves it too. Like it's like a way of life for her. So she deck she decorates the she has a theme and she decorates the whole library. It's nuts how good this girl is at this stuff. That is very cool of her. As long as you're not doing this ever again we'll be okay. Yeah you embarrassed all of us buddy. Why I made all of them. Yeah, four hours later, bro. Bro, that high shot is so high. Yeah, I watched. Okay. Yeah, and this is the first of many. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Olovski.

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All the time. Tim McPhee's be calling off. He's getting all ready. He's getting ready to just go ahead and slaughter some green beers. Good move. Yeah, he's gonna do it as he should. Monday.

Used to do that. I think I'll certainly have a green beard too this weekend. Sure, you have to. Solange, you know, with the lads. You know, with the Irish people. Give a little bit of love. Not only used to do that. I think I'll certainly have a green beard too this weekend. Sure, have to. Solange, you know, with the lads, you know, with the Irish people, give a little bit of love. Not what we used to do though. We really used to do it. Like St. Patrick's Day used to be, oh yeah, used to be one of the ones. I think, you know, Christmas was obviously big, Halloween was big. Night before Thanksgiving. We didn't do that much. I never really did that.

New Year's obviously, St. Patrick's Day was the one. That thing started at like 8 a.m. Fourth of July. Yeah, Fourth of July. Fourth of July's a good one, yeah. St. Patty's Day though, kegs and eggs, 8 a.m. start. Just by noon you're at the nightclub that you're normally at about 2, 3 a.m.

and they're open in Pittsburgh. You're right in the middle of it. I mean, you walk outside, there's like sun and it's like what the hell's going on? Then you go back into another place and you start hammering more alcohol and by five or six o'clock it's over. You know that's all she wrote. You go take a three hour four hour nap and then guess what? Well we got nighttime St. Patrick's Day now and almost you come out of the you almost come out of the cave. People thought you were down but instead you move the rock and you show back up at those bars and at those clubs and say, Happy St. Patrick's Day.

Are we doing this or not? And nobody that was there in the morning is there anymore. So you really feel like a survivor. You feel like you're one of the guys that have made it. And then if you see somebody that you were potentially hammer drunk with, like 11, 12 hours beforehand, and they're out, there's a moment of, good for you.

Yeah, still great. We did it still happy St. Patrick's Day inevitably March 18th horrendous day here like one of the worst of all time but happy St. Patrick's Day to everybody and I love the hat that you got on no no nine-year NFL vet Darius T. Butler's March 18th is actually the greatest day ever really specifically 1982 have a birthday D-Bush say your birthday it is wait you have the 18th is actually the greatest day ever. Really? Specifically 1986. Happy birthday, D-Bud. Say your birthday. It is.

Wait, you had the same birthday? I didn't know that was celebrating. I didn't know I was celebrating your birthday. You were. Every St. Patrick's Day. Exactly. You probably brought in most of my birthdays. Most of my birthdays probably blackout.

No! Not bad. Just having a good time. I appreciate that. Just having a good time in the name of Daris J. Butler. Hell yeah. Joining us now live from Connecticut, Ohio, is the college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ. OK. Still got the Omicah look. I don't know if there was a lighting different. Maybe that's my look now. Yeah, maybe. Hey, all good, Butler.

Mazel, bro. Shalom. Thank you very much. I agree. St. Patty's Day is amazing. Yeah, it's one of the ones, you know, especially if you're in a place where it's celebrated. Pittsburgh, absurd.

They always say like Georgia, somewhere in Georgia. Savannah, Savannah. Savannah, Georgia is always big. Chicago, South Boston. How is Boston? I assume that's a pretty good one. Actually, usually what they'll do too, and maybe this just happens by chance

but I remember when like I was in high school and a couple years out of high school the St. Patrick's Day parade through South Boston was also with the state championship and hockey So a lot of people you go in the morning You know make your way through South Boston as the parades go and everything incredible and then you go to the garden because that's where The hockey games are going on all throughout the Day and usually those are very big games. Everybody knows what's going on We're not to mention names, but we got one of our guys out of jail at about 530 a.m I'm on st. Patrick's Day. I think I know who and then we went straight from the jail straight to downtown and

Slept in the car in the parking garage for about 40 minutes or so Then we opened the trunk where there was a keg that was potentially taking for somebody else's house and we just we just one-headed oh yeah oh yeah you certainly do use in here you certainly do I was yeah it was yeah yeah I was I was I was potentially with person whenever they got arrested and that was a wild time to be alive then I was almost put in the position of like I'm pretty boosted up right now, but we got get old buddy out because we got big st. Patrick's day coming up here But yeah, so we obviously pulled some strings made some things happen We go straight from the jail straight down to a parking garage straight in the tap in the keg in the trunk

Straight into we're all having a good time here. Aren't we? Yes, we are walking past police officers Just moments before we're in jail obviously publicly intoxicated having a great time. Good to see you guys slantcha slantcha then we kept it moving Inevitably that case would get dropped. I believe against person. It was all bullshit nice like we've been saying this entire time Yeah, that's a win. It wasn't that one Joe Hadley of Joe Hadley washing windows and sons killed that homeless guy No, yeah, see that's these are all lies Hadley was on jail and I don't think he ever has been actually he's a good lad and if you do know you're windows cleaned in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania you call Joe Hadley. Yes. And I wish I had his business's number right now because we would say it and he would be so fucking mad. I'm already booked I don't need

people calling me. What do you got to every time you say my name my fucking people start calling me you want to windows clean? I don't want to clean your windows. I already got enough windows to clean. Joining us now, oh, there it is right there. We found the website. It is, no, I'm not going to get it. So mad. See you on April 9th.

Hattlebags and everybody else back in Pittsburgh. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who stole the evening last night with a spectacular four point play to beat the Milwaukee Bucks here in Indianapolis, Indiana. He was wearing a fresh pair of D-Generation X Pumas whenever he made the absurd play. And now he joins us. Ladies and gentlemen, Olympic gold

medalist from Iowa State, dog, Tyrese Helleberg. Yeah, Tyrese. How you doing, dude? I'm good, man. The intro gets better every time. Well, whenever you do that shit you do last night. Hey, let's run through the play real quick. So we run a tunnel screen here okay we're gonna run a picking little picking skim. You're coming around I heard in a press conference you said you wanted to start on the other side and you rarely get the ball in this play. Feels like this play was made for you to get the rock. Can you go through it you know kind of step by

step here and at what moment like when did you know that was falling? As soon as it comes off the hand Yeah, it felt good when I left my hands, you know, I had a lot of in-and-outs last night so when I let that one go it felt good, but we we call this we call this Colts I'd leave and it's an end-of-the-game package for us and It's like a rug. What do they call that football? It's like a rub route. Is that what it is? Yes. Yeah. And so typically when we run this, I'm always denied, like whoever's guarding the ball

denies me or like turns around and sees me and takes me away. So I was trying to get on the other side. So we threw it to the opposite corner, kind of like, as like a, you know, like a lead, like a fade lead me all the way to the other corner and let me shoot it that way. But just Aaron and miles did a great job of kind of picking picking my guy off there

And you know just made the shot had to feel pretty cool I mean as the ball is falling and you have Yonis in your face. He's six foot Seven foot tall in your face doing this right in front of Derp what's his the coach? Durv Durv a darvin ham darvin ham pictures of him with his hands in his pocket still and Lillard obviously sitting there just so many Magical memeable moments out of this and the Pacers they posted a photo of you while you're shooting it with you honest And it said yes, sirs on it like there is posters galore in there but as soon

as that falls you immediately know okay i gotta knock down a free throw is that the immediate thought or what is kind of the mindset after it goes in well when they challenged it i didn't know i mean i was hoping that it was a three i was hoping that i didn't step on the line and then they confirmed with me right away that it was a three so now i was thinking you know the game being on national tv people might appreciate some overtime so I thought for sure they were gonna wave that foul off then once they said you know that was a foul I was thinking about was making the free throw I think I know what it's like to be a I thought was like an ice kicker for a little bit right there

but I haven't I haven't missed a free throw since it's all-star knock on wood should not have chatted about it I respect if we're gonna talk about kickers that would be something we would definitely not mention but I respect the confidence and you've put into work to feel that way yeah they reviewed it for like what seemingly was ten minutes I was watching it I'm like this guy's just standing over there and I think Reggie even brought up like they're icing Ty Reese right now You stepped up knocked it home. No problem. I love everything about TV time for the Reggie or Yeah, you weren't flexing a little bit too. You're doing a little standing around, you know

I saw you you should have done a little bit more with the shoes, you know Hey great great night for the DX Pumas pal. I said it at the top I don't know why I didn't hit the top. I was too caught up in the moment. That's on me. I gotta be better there. Good selling. Yeah, but I heard you say that, you know, you would've been fined 25,000 or something

if you would've told them, oh, let's suck it over here on the sideline. Is that accurate? Probably. I would've called Triple H, asked him to look out for me or something. I would've, you know, good dirty marketing probably.

This is the, this is the NBA that we're talking about. These guys get paid hundreds of millions of dollars. They can find 25 grand, they're calling Triple H&B. Yeah, he could've said. Hell! Yeah. Sell a sweater or something. Yeah, I mean, yeah, buy, sell a watch.

Sell all the clothes that you wear. That jacket, that big poofy leather jacket, that's 28, 29,000. That's worth about four or five. No, I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go it's not that much. How about this? This fit right here. This guy's wearing 40 grand walking in the building you know just. There's no way it was 40 grand but I've seen some good memes about this you know typically my outfits always get memed. One of them was when you go,

so one of them was like when you go to your boy's wedding and then this is when you, you know, the night after and you all you have is your dress shoes. Yeah. You leave like this. Good fit though. That was a good one. Yeah, it was a good one.

Well. Your outfits, costumes get memed because you always look great. You know, this is, this is exactly what I would wear if I was heading over to play Milwaukee Bucks No talk about the game in winning that that's big, right? That's a big win for the Pacers last night last night was obviously was national TV game But that's a huge game for you guys and coming off a three game Schneid you come back for your first game after missing

A few last night get a win Where are we sitting at now and what does the rest of the season look like for the Pacers? Can I be can I be talking shit openly to everybody about us winning this thing? Well, you always could do that Pat of course We are tied with tied with Milwaukee in Detroit or we have the tiebreaker over to try with tied with Milwaukee for the four seed And we play we have a back-to-back coming up with Philly and Milwaukee and the winner of that game against on Saturday, I want to say. Yeah, in Milwaukee, we'll have the tiebreaker for the fourth seed. But yeah, it's tightly contested there between four to six.

So these next 18 games are really important. Okay, so that's how many we got left 18 obviously. Can't wait to make it out to one of these games to watch you know the Pacers show in life before the playoffs because whenever we get in the playoffs we know that the Pacers about to run it okay and look out to the Eastern Conference because there's a freight train coming through and it's hitting jumping sideways fading threes to beat the Milwaukee Bucks that's a beautiful thing go ahead AJ.

Yeah, Tyrese, I'm curious. How many times have you practiced a shot like that? And I don't think casual people, casual fans, have any idea how difficult of a shot that would be even on air, let alone with Giannis in your face fouling you. But how many times have you practiced something like this? Well, this shot specifically, honestly speaking,

we put this in two years ago, I haven't made this shot in probably two years. Well, I haven't got the balls to make this in two years ago. I haven't made this shot in probably two years Well, I haven't got the ball to make it in two years But I don't know I feel like Over the course of your career, of course being a basketball player you Imagine shooting so many different shots and different angles and stuff like that. So In this play i'm not even thinking about It's not like this isn't a shot like, oh, I practiced this so many times. Nah, this is just

basketball feel and having confidence that I could make, you know, any shot in that moment. You said you had a lot of rim out. You weren't the only one. It felt like all the boys were, but every time I looked at the score, you guys were in the lead or battling. Feels like you got a good squad, legit. And how do you feel about Carlisle and the boys? Yeah, I feel good. This was obviously a great, a good diagram play here. You know, I feel like we missed a lot of open looks last night. That happens over the course of the season, you know, you can't control every make, every miss, but I feel like our process has worked really well and I feel really confident about the way our offense has looked, you know,

since all-star break and throughout the course of the year. So, you know, I'm definitely, definitely excited about what the rest of the year has for us and looking forward to, you know, competing in the playoffs here soon. You did that thing again where you just shifted the gear with your voice box. You know, a different fucking voice. That wasn't intentional. That just happened. I know, I know. You're back. We're coming back. Not like town. Downshift a little bit there. It is

wonderful. Darius has a question for you, Tyree. You were talking about our playoff basketball and you guys are everybody in NBA right now kind of making that push. I know I'm a guy who really locks in NBA post all-star break. What's it like in between those lines as far as the intensity and how does it step up post all-star break making this late push and then into the playoffs? Well yeah I mean I think over the course every little different and football probably you guys are probably looking at the standings the majority of the year because there's only whatever 16 17 games but in basketball it's hard to like you want to know where you are but I would say seeding and stuff like that really isn't impacted until the

last like 20 games You know you're you're right there in contention with everybody and then it's about tiebreakers and stuff like that I feel like that's what you pay more attention to through the course of the year, right when you play a team three times You know by a third game. It's important You know you want to get that tiebreaker because you never know where everybody could end up in the end So after all-star break is really about you, locking in and just, I don't know, the intensity really picks up because, you know, we played Milwaukee, this is our third time playing them.

And I would say the intensity behind this game was much higher than the first two. And, you know, I'm assuming that this weekend will be obviously even more important. It sets up a pretty good, pretty big game, you know, because, you know, we've been neck and neck pretty much all year. And, you know, we're, we're looking for a crap is looking like a crash course that we're going to play each other in that four or five games. Don't want to take away from what Detroit is doing because they're looking really good as well. They could be right there with with with both of us. But, you know, you want to be that force because you want that home court advantage in that first round.

It feels like the NBA is doing this brother, right now. Feels like everything, like the vibes, conversation, you know, you hit a shot like that on a Tuesday, like that's happening on a regular basis. It feels like the NBA is in a good spot. Remember last time we talked to you we thought dead, remember? Well big time. Thought the NBA was dead, you remember? I was even telling you that. Instead it feels like the lads are chatting a little bit more, we're learning more, the game's getting getting better teams are getting more interesting

You know, it feels like it's good time in the NBA. Do you guys feel that right now or no? Yeah, yeah, I mean I I mean I said our league we never feel like it's dead I mean I hear I hear what you guys are saying we we obviously all talk a lot so I I hear the opinions of the of the of the team, but I think You know as we get to playoff time I think that's when everybody really locks in everybody's engaged you know more storylines more rivalries all that stuff is created and you know maybe a little bit more drama which I think all sports fans appreciate so I think we're in a good time right

now as we get here in the playoff time. Jerrick Rich Paul said he's a vegan too at all. Yeah. Stays away from all the beef. Smart Yeah, he does. Don't like all drama. Speaking of, we got Shaquille O'Neal joining us in about an hour. Excited to chat about his thoughts on the current state of the game. You know, that should be fun. That should be a blast.

I'll ask him about your big shot last night. I saw him react to it in real time. Now he's gotten a chance to kind of digest it for about 14 hours, what his thoughts are. Shot of the year, people were saying, Tyrese. Shot of the year happening last night. Felt like the place was packed out too, right? Good vibes last night?

Yeah, yeah, it was definitely packed in there. I think obviously our fans love, you know, we love when we get national TV games, you know, because in the past couple of years, we haven't really had that opportunity. So I think as a fan base, as a team, we try to take advantage when we get that opportunity. And you know, you play Milwaukee, right?

Like that's a team who there's obviously a little bit of a history with with both of us So I feel like the fans are all part of it and you know, that's what makes our league great Yeah, it was awesome. That was an awesome experience. I should have been there should have been there I was supposed to go couldn't go couldn't go we're supposed to go My mom, you know, my mom, you know, she's in charge of the tickets. All right, this is maybe the fourth or fifth time I said, hey mom, I you gotta hold two for Pat. And she goes, she goes, why? He never comes anyway.

That's what mom said. So she's gonna give you some shit when you finally do come. She's gonna be like, hey, I always hold these tickets for no reason. Well, it's still mom, okay, that A, I appreciate that. I understand the passion that she has for it. And watching a game alongside of her is an honor She's in there. She's a great fan. She's very well loved by

Everybody to they kind of know who she is with that being said mom. I got a lot going on You know, I got a two-year-old wife and I got a two-year-old It's not as easy as just you know, we're gonna go on Tuesday down time and watch the game There's a lot that goes into it. You'll experience this. okay? Well, I have your back. I have your back in these conversations, of course, because I know you got a lot going on, but you know, mom thinks the world revolves around the Pacers, so... D'ah! I need to let mom know. I apologize for that. I can't wait to watch the game. I'll see her soon. I will see her soon. Yes. And then obviously the lady, I saw her last night. Jade was down there. A lot of comments about what you were gonna do last night.

I did appreciate seeing you just go and see your lady and just have a nice old night in Indiana right right yes sir yes sir came back what's what's the paradise who know by the way even I've heard it is great great show I'm on episode 7 great show oh great show was it snowing in there or was it is it a they said that that is normally the what do they say who's in it was there all white people in there what is the show the paradise? No. What if the main guy is black? Oh okay I didn't know that. They're just talking about Tyrese. Are you okay? They're saying what Tyrese normally does. Oh, wow. Stop.

I'm saying it. Hey, D-But, D-But, did they tell you when I went to the combine, they gave me the D-But name tag? I said, why did I get the D-But? That's not real. D-But wasn't there. D-But wasn't there. It was either D-But or D-Bone.

It's Andy. Hospitality. It was either him or D-Bone or D-Bone, you know? It's Andy. You know, hospitality. It was either him or D-Bone. And to be honest, the D-Bone one was on its way, but we thought it was disrespect. Because if you see the D-Bone one, I think you would have... Louis Elastic? I mean, Lambo got it with mine. So it just makes sense.

Yeah, exactly. Lombardi came in with Anthony DiGiulio. No reason other than it was available at the time. People need to remember that. Ty, I have a question for you Tyrese. Yeah, Tyrese, obviously it's a midweek game, regular season, but still, that's a big matchup. Hitting that shot, where does that rank in your career

in terms of big shots that you've hit? I mean, probably, I'd probably say number two in terms of big shots, because I hit a game winner against the Bucs last year in the playoffs as well. So probably Probably right up there top two. I mean what are the odds that fans that we're really gonna remember a regular season game 15 years From now, but hey, you never know. I Hopefully we make more more moments where that's not a top five moment But currently I'd probably put a number two. That's a big shot, dude. Four point play to win a game, especially in like playoff time.

That is a... Over Yonis, too. Over Yonis, yeah. Over the Greek freak. He's good at basketball. That's a great shot. With Dane standing on a sideline right in front of their bench. I mean that is, that's a great moment.

Are you going to, are we, we'll try to do that actually. We should probably get him like that. Yeah, you gotta get that blown up. Blown up, yeah. Put that one on the ceiling, maybe the bedroom. You know? On the ceiling? Yeah, so you can see yourself all the time.

That's where he's got his mirrors. Yeah, I knew that was coming. Cody Rhodes mural. We don't know, yeah. Mark. Yo, Ty, by the way, I saw Lisa Bluder bobblehead. Yeah, I know. You broke it.

Cold Nichols broke it. Yeah, I didn't touch the goddamn thing We had a mullet that's how I was in what what you made me bet my gold medal for that bobblehead You're sleeping out the wheel pal. I told you hey Lisa bluters yours Take good care of it and under your watch under your stewardship. She's broken into I don't know what you want me to tell you I can send it to you in pieces Yeah, do you want to feed and the upper body? Do you want both pieces or just of what do you I don't know what you want me to tell you I can send it to you in pieces Yeah, do you want to feed Andy upper body? Do you want to both pieces or just a what do you I don't want? It's broke now. So that's totally fine with me. Well, maybe we'll get you a new a new bobblehead of something

Yeah, oh, they got my bobblehead. I give you my bobblehead these days Maybe my Iowa State one that would be even better Ties gonna put that in front of him, but we will we will definitely put it in Well, I'll have you know coach Lisa bl Bluter told us she sent in another one. She did. I saw that on Twitter. That's good for the brand. We'll see.

Not the tie, just to you. We haven't got it yet, but we will be patiently waiting for Coach Bluter. We'll see. Logistics. We've got the whole thing going on. Good tweet. Conman has a question for you, Tyree. Yeah, Tyree, one of those big shots could come against the Celtics, but you guys can't

beat him when it matters But do you guys have any big rivals this year? What's this guys problem? I think last year you you and the Bucks I thought that still was funny I think last year you and the Bucks had some beef Do you have any beef with any teams this year that maybe I mean I know the Knicks There's that kind of fake beef because you did say you and Josh Harden, Jalen Brunson are all boys, but who's the team this year that the Pacers really hate?

I mean, Coach Carlisle says to beat teams, you gotta hate them, you know, so. Hell yeah. I think it's whoever's in front of us, I think we're supposed to hate. I think obviously last year playing the Bucks and the Knicks in the playoffs, there's a little bit of a rivalry there.

And then your Boston Celtics as well, they beat us in the playoffs. We'd- Yeah, but Detroit this year, you guys haven't- Ah, right. Yes, I guess that is a thing back in the league. They're trying to bring back the bad boys rivalry, right? The Malice rivalry. Listen, who's trying to bring that back? Aren't you guys getting a little...

I think the public might be trying to bring back the Malice rivalry, but I mean, that's good for the league. I get it. My only thing is I said this last year about the Bucs, I don't really consider it a rivalry until you get a playoff matchup. So if we play the Pistons in the playoffs, then I think you can say that the rivalry is back. But until then, you know, I think it's just competing and like I said, Coach says you gotta hate him to beat him, so it's all part of me. Carlisle, what a special guy. Love that guy.

You imagine Ty Reese in the stands just throwing paymakers at fans? I could actually, yeah, especially Ty Reese. You couldn't imagine that on him. Need more rivalries. Maybe he's putting those Pumas through people's faces. Watch out for these two. Switch in music. Switch in music to the pedigree.

OK, it's going to be tough because if you connect on Switch, you're going to have to pick them back up. You're going to have to Switch in. You're going to have to. What if it's a big fellow, a big drunk fellow, you know, he doesn't go down with the music? Isiah Stewart? What are you? Pete Stewart? You're gonna what if it's a big fella big drunk fella, you know, he doesn't go down. I say it's do How tall are you

You're pretty big dude too, but So you're gonna talk about big I'm talking about big walk as in why that guy? Oh, so why guy couple couple Bruce keys in them probably not going down from the switch in music. I Think drunk fat has a button you could hit for sure. I think you could get everybody has a button Everybody has a button by the way But if you're gonna do a kick to the gut pedigree then lift person up then you can switch in them Then I think you get the one two. Are these DX poo was gonna be for sale. I Think right now they're a player edition. They're just for me as of right now But uh, from this company we can't get

Would be nice But I you know, I have a great relationship with the people at WWE so you know, we've we're having conversations Hopefully it's a a collab collaboration opportunity in the future with you know, some current some past superstars You guys know a big WWE fan so if I can do stuff with you know with with DX with triple H with the final boss with he's under armor now it's a final boss Oh John Cena you know I don't know what his nickname is right now as a bad guy but whatever that's the main one that's the main one we want okay who side are you on here in this entire thing I I don't think we've talked. Oh

You know, I love good competition. So, you know, I'm with her Cody's been great to me We had great conversation at the rumble, but I mean seen as my guy so kick the bus Yeah, that was that was rude. That was a little reckless, but I think I I fall somewhere in the middle I'm probably leaning towards John, but if Cody wins, he's resilient. You know, I respect that he's had to fight past the whole bloodline to get to where he is today. So I'm sure the final boss and Cena aren't anything to him,

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Right on time. That was really good. Thank you for doing that. That was better. I like that. All right, congratulations, buddy. That was a big night last night. We can't wait to watch the Pacers finish out the season

strong and then play off basketball right around the corner. Welcome back. You were hurt, right? Last time it was first game back? I was hurt last time it was first game back. All right, we're happy you're back. Ladies and gentlemen, Olympic gold medalist,. All right, we're happier back. Ladies and gentlemen Olympic gold medals future world champion

Tires Albert Could be a world champion WWE and a NBA good It's gonna be hard to get that strap I do appreciate that you just You are very much openly a Celtics fan right to Darius's face. How could I not be? Swept last year in the playoffs. You remember that?

Yeah. We go into the garden in New York, do some gardening, get the Knicks out of the way. Then all of a sudden we got to Celtics and it's like, yeah, this is going to be great. This is going to be a fun series. And then it was not. They just did, they just won four straight.

Well, the craziest part was that the Pacers, after those four games, you watched all of them. It should have been two, two or three, one Pacers yeah cuz there's they just shit down their like moments remember there was a ghost in the in the garden that stripped I somebody's drop he just Tyrese dribble it just dribbled it and somehow the ball bounces sideways and now it's over we lose that game okay the pass in the bound pass the Jalen Brown three pointer in the corner. All right. It's like 108, 101 Pacers with two minutes left in Indiana, the game we were at before

the Indy 500. They should have won that for sure. That was when I hit the. Yeah, you rev the engine. I rev the engine. Oh yeah. The game was there. The game was there.

The game was there. The game was there. The game was there. Still doing it. They still revving that thing. I Was that just playoff? I haven't been to a game this year. So I believe it's just playoff It's been tough to get that. I don't know don't know game is though. It's a lot It's a lot and always done there with everything going on what you rev like they have like a NASCAR there Indy car fucking

They have like a NASCAR there? IndyCar, fucking key. IndyCar, yeah, you're right. You're right, IndyCar. Welcome, welcome. That was Indy. All right. Jeez, Luis. All right, forget it.

It's all racing. It's all racing. It's not F1, so it's better than that. Come on. Amen, brother. Open the weekend. Big weekend this weekend for G1. I hear there's a new guy going to take the top spot.

Can't wait to see it. You're talking about Lando. You're talking about Lando. Lando, they're going to let him win this time I guess. What do you mean let? What an asshole. If he is the pole sitter he will win the race. Well that is G1 racing.

Follow the leader, leader, leader, follow the leader. Get this thing done. We had seven winners last year. Coming off the best season. 80 races no 23 I think all different winners. I'm proud of I'm proud of f1 so resilient just coming back another season Long time I think it is still this I'm getting into it this year.

I'm getting into F1. I'm going to see why people like it. Because any time we talk shit on F1, I'll have some snob send me a message telling me I don't get it and yada, yada, yada. It's like, okay, can the boys go on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and do anything? No. So I don't want to hear it. But with that being said, a lot of money, okay?

A lot of investment, a lot of passion, a lot of pageantry, and those cars do look sweet. Got an American car coming in too in 26. And ready? Cadillac. Yeah, they're driving an Escalade. Yeah, they're... I'll watch that.

Especially because the American Escalade will bop, bop, bop. Yeah, right off the top. Because F1 really loves when everybody's just right behind each other, the Cadillac Escalade's gonna come and go nope We're actually yeah, it's gonna be monster jam. Exactly F1 meets monster jam That's something I watch and that's why they didn't want Americans in it for a long time, right? They were actually like actively suing America to get into F1 and to happen. Oh, I know Andretti Was going through it built the big big facility out here actually

He was trying to get into it, but he did not Cadillac is getting in shots of Cadillac You know, I'll be sweet is the do they have a good car or engine or whatever the fucking bullshit is or we don't know yet So 26 so you don't even know if it's good I promise you have the best engineers in the world. It's great American company. They'll figure it out. Yes They certainly will yes, they certainly which is why f1 didn't want Americans best engineers in the world. It's a great American company. They'll figure it out. Yes, they certainly will Yes, they certainly which is why F1 didn't want Americans in for a long time. That's true Cadillac's gonna come in there and do it I'll tell you what when Cadillac gets in we'll get in. When's that next year? 26. I'll see you next year See you next year F1 starts in Australia this weekend. I will watch I will say I will give it another shot

I'm optimistic. I'm gonna like it. That's my new thing I'm optimistic these days here we go full about things that are seemingly a matter of fact, but I will be optimistic that the opposite is gonna happen and I'm pumped about that. You know, I was optimistic that we're gonna see both of bosses on one team San Francisco 49ers I think mama bosa was optimistic that she was you see both her boys playing for one team I think the split Jersey was gonna be no more the split travel was gonna be no more the bosses thought you know what? Nick and Joey back at it like they were kids in the backyard on a same D line hunting other quarterbacks That's gonna happen. Ah, Brandon Bean said I don't think so one year year, $12.6 million deal for Joey Bosa

to join the Buffalo Beals. Now remember, they moved on from Von Miller, still kept the door open to bring back Von Miller at a different price tag. And now they signed 12 million guaranteed to Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa's stats over the last few years, whenever it comes to sacks, have not been necessarily something

that'll guarantee like high-end money, but he's a game wrecker, he's a dog, he's a tone setter. I think Bean loves everything about that AJ when you saw Bosa was going to Buffalo were you as surprised as I was I thought he was going to the Niners I thought they were gonna make that happen yeah I was a bit surprised I'm just curious what the Niners may have offered if he signed a one-year 12 million guaranteed possible getting up to 15 like the Niners offer him half of that you think like I would imagine yeah I would assume there was

some sort of hometown family discount You know like we don't have all the cash in the world especially with Brock Purdy's contract looming depending upon this year or next year I assume it was a low ball. I assume it was a low ball and then he said You want to lose some money for your brother and he goes absolutely not he goes All right, we'll send Joe to Buffalo then and being he adds a guy on a one-year You know mission with all the amount of money they've invested in this particular roster trying to go win a Super Bowl Can Joey help him do that? He's a top tier guy win healthy and health has been his major issue But when he's out there, he's gonna produce in the run in the past game and the Buffalo Bills need some dynamic

Playmakers on both sides of the ball. I wonder if Josh Allen sent this idea over to Bean, but yeah, I think he'll be a great addition. They locked up Russo as well earlier this off season and Bernard on the second level of linebacker. So yeah, they keep beefing up, signing a one year deal with Demar Hamlin. So they're trying to figure it out on Buffalo on that defense side to get over that Kansas City Chiefs hump. Congrats to Demar getting another deal with the Buffalo Bills.

Obviously a fantastic story, but also great football was played by Demar this past season. Shout to the Yenser going back to Buffalo. You look at the AFC East now, AJ, you know there's a lot of question marks here. Patriots brand new everything. Jets brand new everything. Dolphins, you know, kind of staying put with a lot of the pieces that they had in years past. A lot of conversation around them is are they ever ever gonna be able to win a big one? Gumpy, after going to Miami, your thoughts on the Dolphins being able to focus and win football games?

After spending five days in there, I think it will be tough, but I like what Chris Greer's doing. No big splashes, but some good moves, bringing in some good guys for the team we already have. Okay, so Jets, Patriots, brand new. Dolphins seemingly the same. And then the Buffalo Bill is revamped, including in bringing in new people. AFC East is an interesting conversation with the Bills being the king, obviously.

Yeah, definitely the Bills. And even with Joey Bosa, like the biggest thing for the Bills, especially their D-Lime, was like, hey, these guys rotate, you know, constantly. I think they're leading D-Lime and only still played 60 or 70 percent of snaps. And that was Ed Oliver. So Bosa with the hell thing won't even be as big of a problem it feels like but yeah it is kind of wide open it's one of those spots where you know a couple things go wrong for the Jets or the Dolphins or the Patriots you know that other team can kind of slide up there into that two hole and maybe sneak in to the wildcard there but the Bills still run it I mean there's no there's nothing confusing about that.

They are levels above those other three teams. They certainly do. And obviously the only reason why they haven't had their Super Bowl run or Super Bowl success is because there's been one team standing in their way, the Kansas City Chiefs. Obviously Kansas City has a lot of moves that they have had to make.

This off season for their team, they get to the Super Bowl, which is still an incredible feat. They win the AFC, incredible feat. Had the number one record in all of football, incredible feat. And then they get the doors blown off from by the Philadelphia Eagles, which I think has put a chip on their shoulder,

which could make this Chiefs team even more lethal than they have been in the past. They move on from Justin Reed, who just signed a three year deal with the New Orleans Saints yesterday. Justin Reed's safety from the Texans, I believe. Then he goes to the Chiefs. He can kick off. He can kick field goals He was an absolute dog for this Chiefs defense. He gets three years 31 and a half 22 and a half 22 and a quarter

Guaranteed congrats to him returning home to Louisiana D bucks What are they getting down there to Justin Reid great a great player player, great character guy on and off the field in the meeting room, a guy you want in that building. You talk about his Texas run, had a great run there, had a great run with Kansas City. I'm a little surprised. I thought he would get kind of close to what the other top safeties got on the market. But it's a great addition for New Orleans. They're willing to deal with somehow even with their cap situation, but great signing with him getting back a period up the other Louisiana native Tyran Matthew. How about Tyran Matthew still doing it? Yeah. High level. Yeah, very high level. It's almost like because he goes down to the Saints and the

Saints haven't been, you know, you kind of forget about it. Good luck to everybody down there in the new regime. Let's go to college ball, we rich rodriguez had a press conference Yesterday or two days ago talking about a new rule in the West Virginia Mountaineer football camp No, I don't really I mean they're gonna be on it. So it's not I'm not banning them from I just banning them from dancing on it You know, it's like don't look we try to have a hard edge whatever and you're in there, you know and in in your tights whatever and you're in there, in your tights, dancing on TikTok. Ain't quite the image of our program that I want. But I told the team that I said everything today is about trying to make everybody individual. It's all about the individual.

It's all about the individual. And I said football is one of the last things that was gotta be more about the team than the individual. And so I just, I banned dancing on TikTok, I guess I did that. But anything that doesn't look like our program should look, I mean, I think it's just like, come on, you know what really? I mean, am I allowed to do that? I guess I can have, like I said about it and I'm allowed to do that I guess I can

Like I said 20 years from now they want to be Sitting in their pajamas in. I don't want to, you know, that's what he said. I was just, I just wanted a quick conversation of like the unfiltered conversation. So there was a lot there that was certainly coming through. The cannabis thing came from an earlier question because Backman Jones, friend of the program, obviously West Virginia University legend, top 10 pick, top five pick in the NFL draft out of West Virginia. He told a story about how, you know, he was able to get

around the marijuana test throughout the NFL. And to to be clear I didn't know that was really possible in the NFL and I got tested a lot. I was in the substance abuse program for 27 months I think I had 300 something tests in a 27 month period So you're talking about a lot of tests I took a lot of tests So listening to him kind of lay out what he did. I'm like, well, that is actually pretty good little It's pretty little strategy slight a hand in there do the entirety I don't know with the piss testers that I had it would have worked because they were yeah me too I mean they're right in front of me they're right there in front of me yeah but Pac said he was able to do it and I believe it with the way he

set up he had like yeah no I believe I was with Pac in Cincinnati there's different they test differently depending on who is working whatever teams yeah so like I believe that I listened to it and then obviously at West Virginia we potentially did have a way of going about Doing the test they test you in college. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah tested for weed in college. Yeah, how often? Uh, I got it like twice I think in the four years randomly selected. It was it was Truly random and NFL is random, but you know like the time period that it's gonna you know, you start some 420 Yeah starts on 420

So, you know you OTAs mini camp training camp those certain times but outside of that you can like the time period that's gonna you know you start some 420 Yeah starts on 420 so you know you OTAs mini camp training camp those certain times But outside of that you can kind of time and space it out in college for at least for us It'll be random. You know call up at the practice huddle. Hey Butler Hart McAfee go in there right now It's like damn college. Yeah, so we We had night before we were told and then next morning we're in there So, you know, we had the whole there was a gimmick. There was a game sure GNC No, you just need a visine bottle basically and somebody else and then you just sleep with that in your tights

So it gets body temperature you wake up the next morning Pop that thing in a microwave five ten seconds Make sure it gives a little bit more heat put that in the tights and tight center going in there and then obviously go to the stall and they give you the cup and then it turns around and they test the temperature. That's the big thing is the temperature right? Yeah it is sweet, you're good, you got it, I'm gonna go to workout. I'm not saying I did that or anybody in West Virginia did it, I'm just saying that did happen potentially in drug testing times. So he was asked earlier about the not just about the drug testing policies but the NCAA I think doesn't test for it anymore and in West Virginia

it's legal. So he was just asking he was being asked about how he's gonna talk to his players about it and his answer was very good he gave a very good answer he said you know it was easier back in the day whenever it was against rules because if it's against rules I say don't do it you know like a false start jumping off sides against rules don't do it smoke a reeds against rules don't do it now that it's like kind of not really being tested for and also it's legal in the state in which your school is he gave a speech about access and you know obviously anything and wanting this and

if it doesn't affect this like he gave a very it wasn't a rich rot answer I thought I was gonna hear you know I I don't need no hippies. Like, it wasn't- He's evolving. He's gotta evolve with the times. Good for him, man. Like even Saban says, you have to kind of, you can't, there's certain things

you can't be stuck on, I think. Yeah, he's still, you know, we're not dancing on TikTok. Okay, well, and I'm allowed to do that, he said. So I- They wanna be in their basement? He's gonna have his, he's going to have his. Hey, if I'm a high school recruit and I want to go to West

Virginia, I'm scrubbing my Tik Tok right now. I don't want him to do that. If you're a high school recruit and you're a dog, just know that you were very much welcome to West Virginia, you know, and those, these players exist. You know, there's a lot of teams that have them, a lot of teams that have them. Now granted the Tik Tok generation, we're not blaming them. Tik Tok is an app that is obviously captivated an entire group of human beings at a certain age and I think it tries to promote fun and happy and just being a part of things and

when you're doing those dances, you know, you're part of a group. It's like, I don't mind it at all, but I do appreciate, I've never done it, but we got people in here that have done it. It's like you do what you got to do. But I don't mind Rich Rod being like, yeah, that ain't what we're looking for though You know, there's other teams that maybe that is there sure rich rods like that ain't what we're I completely understand what I've seen He's exactly and he said they're gonna be on it. I fucking know that everybody has ticked off So they're gonna be on I just don't want them dancing on it. Listen, you can watch others dance. You can comment sure

You can even say damn That's a great dance. Oh, I just don't want to see your fucking ass. I Have been getting some quotes, you know from the building of Rich Rod and he's been evolved. He certainly added to His incredible repertoire of being able to put swear words into places that really nobody has been able to do He is an orator to say the least. And, you know, getting a chance to chat with him now after practice and after these meetings and with how he acknowledges, you know, some of the things that happen in these interactions.

I couldn't even fathom what he was saying to his friends about whenever I was there, just like legitimately, I couldn't even, couldn't even this fucking asshole, just like the whole layout of it. But it's gonna take a little bit, I think, to get that culture. It's gonna take a little bit. Him and Matt Rule, you know, Matt Rule was the first one to ban TikTok, I think.

He had TikTok workouts at 6 a.m. in the morning of the combine, where they had the strength staff print out everybody's TikTok bios and put them on top of weights and then push the sled while they're staring at their TikTok bios. It was called a TikTok workout, what Matt Ruhl said. And I think what Matt Ruhl and Rod are both saying is, first of all, we

shouldn't be recruiting guys that want to do this, but also if you're here, we don't want you to be worried about this. We want you to be worried about this. Trying to build a culture. Set it down. It's basically what he's trying to do. For sure. And it's tough.

We've talked, just talking about it. We were in college 20 years ago. These coaches have been coaching much, much longer than that. And while you're talking about these guys. I'm thinking about bill You know you talk about evolving I saw a video I think of him in Chapel Hill the basketball game great daps I'll adapt. Yeah, I never seen those type of daps coming from Bill B I wonder if he's the next coach to our band tick tock in these ain't the dancers on What we call it he'll call it a talk tick or something. Oh yeah, clock talk.

Can he do that gimmick in college? What's that? He's gotta be up to speed now, right? No, I think he's gonna rely on Old Faithful. I think he's gonna call social media stuff the wrong name. Yeah, my face is the snap face also. Yeah, I'm not doing that. He gets a good pop out of it. Thanks

He does feel good. Yeah, I get a good pop out of it too. Yes. What's the combo coming? You know what combos come anytime you reference my space it is like oh, yeah, he Nobody has updated him. Hey, he's been out of the game. Where's Tom? It's Tom. Okay. Oh, yeah, I think he made a bunch of money and kind of just vanished and then he became a photographer Yeah, and just did it Okay. Rest in peace. Oh yeah. I think he made a bunch of money and kind of just vanished. And then he became a photographer. Photographer, yeah. And just did it. He kind of just does his own thing.

Did it right. Created his thing, got a shit ton of money, and now I'm going to go do what I want to do. Yep. That's nice. That's why you're in my top eight, Tom. Is it still alive? Is Myspace still a thing?

I think JT bought it a few years back. He's going to turn it into a music platform, but obviously that always works. Really? People try to start new platforms or revive platforms. I think there was a little bit of an investment trying to make it a music thing, but I don't know. Oh, is Tom the MySpace guy? Yeah.

Okay. I had no clue what we were talking about there. He was everybody's friend. Yeah, he was. He was right there. He was just like a cool guy. He was always there for you. You had no friends? Yes, you do. You have one friend. His name is Tom. He created this fucking thing. That's sweet. Yeah. didn't know much about it's hard to reach. It's good gimmick Tom had no idea. He's got no skeletons the be no and anxiety stress. He was gonna Cause with teenage women and picking their top eight friends. Yeah

I mean a lot of those social media platforms at the early stages Created a lot more drama. Yeah, and I think they could have ever intended certainly, you know Like writing on people's walls that became a thing Whenever Facebook in their wall started and then whenever people start tagging photos. Mm-hmm pull There was a lot of things that were done during that time because people would say I didn't do that and then you just go right to their Facebook and There's a photo and a post explaining exactly what you did The night before it's like I was not at insert whatever and then all of a sudden you open this Facebook app

That's relatively new and there's 14 photos or posts from you at that place What the hell somebody actually checked in with you there there like hi this is your best friend said that you were there what must have been a man I was not is that you that started that never happened in the real world before you know I think like what was a beep chirp team. Where you at? Next up where you at they had the tracker on that yeah they had like a tracker on the phone and I remember people being like You're gonna You're gonna I was like a teenager or young young lad listening to older. I

Guess terrible partners now that I think about in relationships being like this is gonna ruin my relationship It's like well, where are you lying about where you are? Now you can be tracked it's like like Facebook took that to another level. And now you can just track everybody all the time. The transition into being tracked and not being able to just say, I wasn't there, was one. And it was like 2005-ish on Facebook, 2006-ish. And now we're here. Now everybody knows everything about everybody. And now people are dancing on TikTok, but not in a West Virginia University locker room. Yeah, why top eight?

Did you ever answer why he only did eight top friends, Tom, on MySpace? You could do your top four too. I think there was like, Oh, a setting? I think there was levels, you know. Top eight was just like, hey, here's the eight people that I hang out with.

And then whoever the ninth is, problem, problematic. Are you changing? Are they ranked one to eight? They're not ranked are they? Yeah, I think they were Oh, I think they were if I recall people shuffle it around. Yeah, I didn't get into it What people would shuffle them around you could go eight to one. Yeah, what are you gonna do that? Yeah, water on them and serve them mm-hmm Yeah, I'm glad I never got into my space. I wasn't tough. Yeah, I've never gotten into MySpace.

I wasn't there. Yeah, MySpace, I didn't do much of the MySpace. I knew, I know enough about it, but I didn't do enough paying attention to it. You know, because that was back whenever, to get on, you had to call the internet and hope that they answered. And then they would answer, then you'd get on there and then you go to aim. And then you go to aim. And then your mom picks up the phone in the kitchen and bumps you off.

That's like that's how old school that is. Exactly. How am I arranging my top eight? Jesus Christ. MySpace was the one that you could have friends that weren't in college. We went to college Facebook. You had to have the college email. It was for people who were like right underneath that cutoff for Facebook

when you still had to have a college email address to get on Facebook. Yeah, my senior year in senior high school, I think that spring whenever we were about to go to college, was when Facebook opened up to everybody and you just had to have a college email. Yeah. So like, it was crazy that we were one of the first people on that platform. Yeah. But what a game changer. Just, I mean, that thing changed.

I remember waiting for my email. Everything. Yeah. Everything. I mean, it changed everything. It was just like, it was cool to be, yeah, there was a lot of that. There was a lot of reaching out. Poking people was the best.

That was an insane start. That was a, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, and then. Get my poke. Being able to connect with people is sweet. You know, like I thought about if I had that in high school And I go these soccer tournaments and like other states and like it would have been nice to be able to like Just be like hey nice seeing you this weekend said hey never see you again like that It did add like a nice connection to the world now with that obviously there comes

You know once that all came to once it all came to the phone, when the iPhone came out, that's when things actually really changed, I think. Yeah, just connecting to the world was something that wasn't possible back in the day. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, everybody joined a couple of these platforms, which leads once again to,

if you're trying to launch a new platform, I respect what you're doing, but it's difficult. Is like Blue Sky, even threads, you got Zuck funding that thing. Yep. And you got Instagram pushing that thing. And it's like, are you going to join Threads? Sure, because everybody's on.

Am I going to use it though? Probably not. Blue Sky, this sounds like a great idea. OK. What is Blue Sky? What is it? It's threads for Twitter. Oh.

It's basically like, no. It's tough to get traction. It's tough to get traction. Blue Sky is a different Twitter, sorry. It's a different Twitter. It's like a more positive, you know, because X tough to get traction. It's tough to get guys your different Twitter. Sorry. It's a different Twitter It's like a more positive, you know because X became a cesspool of political Bob, you know all that stuff which if any platform gets good It it's in by good. I mean like if any platform gets popular It's gonna get you know, there's gonna be shit in there just like the real world

There's gonna be shit. But what I like to say is can I get through that shit? There's good in there too like being able to connect with anybody at any time That is a fucking weapon that social media has that wasn't always around Well even add into already existing ones like remember fleets like they added fleets to Twitter and that couldn't even last because it was like Hey, I'm not adding, you know an Instagram type story to my Twitter That's not I'll go to Instagram to do something like that. Real steak and TikTok was interesting. Twitter trying to follow suit.

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And bring each other joy Come walk with us indigenous tourism Alberta Has a lot of things happening around it and in it we are obviously gonna discuss it all that is AJ Hawk the toxic Tables table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt great to see you Ty one half of the hammer time Cowboys ball cap tone is here nine year NFL vet f1 superfan Daris J. Butler's here We had some news during the break it is official Cooper Cup. He's being released from the Los Angeles Rams now they were thinking about maybe trading him obviously Cooper Cup put out a tweet

Angeles Rams. Now they were thinking about maybe trading him obviously Cooper Kupp put out a tweet months ago maybe at the Super Bowl that the the Rams had told him that he they were gonna be seeking a trade to get him off of the roster. He put out a tweet basically acknowledging that and thanking everybody in LA. Now they will just release him instead of trading him. Now is this because other teams didn't offer up their best trade package because they knew that he would probably have to be released? Is this because he's been hurt a couple times? we don't know but what we do know is there's gonna be numerous teams that are gonna want

Cooper Cup a veteran wide receiver to join their building especially one who's known to do all the right things on and off the field when he's healthy at Boston Carter you want him in New England I think you just you went from six to midnight whenever you saw that the Rams were releasing him and maybe don't have to give anything up to get him as a Patriot. Yeah, I think the only thing that Patriots fans right now are concerned about with this free agency so far is that they haven't added a savvy wide receiver vet for that room and it feels like Cooper Cup is that perfect guy.

A lot of people will say Cooper Cup's washed. I've seen that on the internet I've seen he's old he's really not I believe he's 32 obviously he's a Super Bowl champion he's a seasoned vet he still performs when he's healthy that's the big if you know similar to the Joey Bosa conversation or when this guy's healthy he's an absolute stud I think New England's not the only team I think every team basically up here Green Bay Pittsburgh even would want him in their building.

The Colts would want him here. I just assumed that some of the places that he would go to would want to be those more top contenders. We mentioned the Chiefs yesterday as one of those teams. They obviously added or brought back rather Marquise Brown, Rashid Rice coming off an injury. But there are plenty of teams out there and it feels like every team who would need a wide receiver, Cooperupps kind of on the

top of that list right now especially now that he's been released and maybe it is kind of a lower number than expected. Cooper Cupp yeah I would assume especially if you're getting cut on this particular day there's already been a bunch of money that's already been set out speaking of a lower number especially at the wide receiver position DeAndre Hopkins is signed with the Baltimore Ravens congratulations to D-Hop, obviously goes over to the Chiefs for a year, has a little time in the Super Bowl,

now he joins the Baltimore Ravens. There was a photo that was posted a few years back of Derrick Henry, Lamar, and D-Hop. And D-Hop posed the question, how many TDs would this trio total? Well, we're gonna find out. And I know this isn't the D-Hop of like five years ago ago and I know it isn't the Derrick Henry of like four years ago but Lamar is Lamar. D Hop has a great opportunity here with the Baltimore

Ravens and Derrick Henry had like a full resurgence not that he was ever down but last year he looked great. I think we're gonna find out what that questions answer is and I'm excited to watch them continue to build over there in Baltimore. I love watching D Hop play football and I'm sure the Ravens fans probably split on this signing. You know I'm sure a lot of them like saying just like what you're saying about Cup. You see a lot of internet D-Hop's watched but he's a competitor he's gonna go out there and work and try to put his best foot forward on a contending team so he'll be playing meaningful football again. So we'll see a ton of D-Hop next year is it five million five million for D hop up to six potentially

Who knows what the incentives are in? All of the contracts Lamar Jackson gets another weapon though AJ, which I think is good news for Lamar and good news for the Ravens Yeah, I don't know how if you're like a Ravens fan how you could be upset with this sign It's D hop. It's not like you're paying him 45 million dollars a year It's one year six million dollar deal at the Raven So like I think it's all upside when you think of this So I am I Cooper Cubs definitely gonna have to go to a contender, you know that with a franchise quarterback There's only handful of teams. I think he's even gonna look at

Okay Started derail that I know Cooper was at the beginning of this You know what we're never gonna get back to Cooper Cup too too So thank God you got that out right there. You know, that is a high impression I'm just thinking of Cooper Cup and I'm like, yeah, the dudes awesome still so is Dihop Well Dihop did the same thing. I think once you a contender, you know, like five million six million at this point of your career You've already earned a lot of money. Let's try to get into some meaningful football games, you know Dihop I got to do it last year Cooper Cup. Obviously has done it a lot with the Rams It's like let's continue to do that as opposed to just maybe getting paid more and going into complete irrelevancy, which is certainly possible

Yeah, I mean I D hops still he's still gonna be great in the red zone red zone Which is is something the Ravens are always look they're always in the red zone They always it's always something they need like I mean He didn't he had a great start with the Chiefs and then there was a lull and then obviously you know in the garbage time of the Super Bowl things went really well But I mean D hop still D hop Are you worried over there in the AFC North? Baltimore Ravens loading up no Joey burrow obviously in Cincinnati Cleveland just brought in somebody that's been in your building Yeah, ain't Kenny pick it as well well as keeping miles Garrett. You guys got questions a quarterback

You got question with TJ watt You know the Pittsburgh Steelers gonna be okay whenever D hop signs the Ravens is your first thought. Oh, no, we're in trouble yet again No, that was that was not my first thought my you're right. The Steelers have bigger problems On their roster. I know D hop does not scare me the Browns KP beating them twice Well is my worst nightmare of all time the Bengals they don't play defense No, I think still is gonna be fun. The Bengals interesting. Nobody's really talked about it Jamar chase Obviously is do a shit ton of money I think rap board told us he's got nothing on time to figure that out Mike

You'll just see they don't play until you know, September or whatever and it's like, okay So we're doing that again feels like we're gonna go through that entire song and dance again then T Higgins stuff obviously is very real and then on defense aside Trey Hendrickson is allowed to search for a deal it's like the Bengals have a lot of question marks and Jamar Chase said no you're worse than a tax tax oh oh tax oh yeah we can no home time discount of cutting on my worth and also I know that this could have been done a year ago So we're gonna add a little tax if that is something that he actually means as opposed to just a bar that he thinks is very

Cool that is gonna be interesting for Duke Tobin to kind of deal with the Bengals are an interesting spot Well, we've seen time and time again Like if you're gonna do this stuff and JJ just said it earlier like get it done early Like you don't want a cowboy situation where you just wait and wait and wait and wait And then the market just kind of balloons like he just won. I mean did he win the Triple Crown last year? Yeah, exactly. So like guess what? You know, I mean you could get this done now or they can you know extend it a little bit and then some other guy Who's not as good with him because of what the market is like might end up getting a massive number and then you're looking at

Like oh wow, we might have to end up giving you know, Jam Chase like 50 million dollars. You kind of have to decide whether or not Jamar Chase is in your long-term plans right now. Like hey is Jamar Chase in our long-term plans? Yes. Let's pay him then. If he's not in our long-term plans I guess we can continue to do this shit you know the song and dance. Now granted what's the number that they're going to be willing to give up you know for their towards their salary cap to build a team, you know, not every team is going to want to spend 35, 40, whatever the number is going to be on a wide receiver. So then what does that mean for the future for the Bengals? And then T, I mean, there's a lot in Cincinnati to be figured out.

And the way they do business is not in a way that's like, yeah, everybody's going to be happy at the end of this thing. Well, it's crazy to that rap sheet mentioned is that he thinks that a deal could get done with obviously Jamar, but T Higgins as well. Yeah, he's gonna be happy at the end of this thing Well, it's crazy to that rap sheet mentioned is that he thinks that a deal could get done with obviously Jamar But T Higgins as well. Yeah, he kind of ideally yeah He like but rat sheet snuck that in yesterday didn't use the idea. He was like, I think they get them both done Yeah, Duke Tobin said it's a combine. Ideally. Yeah both guys back. Ideally we are able to get a deal done I guess rap report also says it but

Though that would be very anti bangles. He said it to 40 million mark too. Yeah. And that was before they gave Trey, the Duke Tobin ideally was before they gave Trey Hendrickson the okay to seek a trade. So they were still trying to figure that out. This legitimately, I don't know if there's ever been a more like, Hey, the bangles need to draft five defensive starters in this year's draft or they're actually going to give up 50 points again, because you're not going to have any money to spend.

And that's what they did last year. Last year, their defense, they didn't draft them, but their gonna give up 50 points again cuz they're not gonna have any money to spend and that's what they did last year Their defense they didn't draft them but their defense gave up a bunch but they get rid of the sack King You know the sack Kings. Yeah, imagine if they don't have Trey if you don't have 15 and a half sacks from Trey also last You're how bad is the defense? Yeah, I'm very the Bengals are fascinating 17 and a half. I'm sorry Trey Yeah, the Bengals are a fascinating thing, you know, cause their fans obviously very passionate and they'd been to the Super Bowl, you know, in recent memory and they got a quarterback who's an Ohio guy who can win. And they got an explosive offense,

seemingly with Zach Taylor, but they just don't look like a team that's going to win a Super Bowl, you know? And it's like, I think they're all bummed out, you know? I think Lou Anna Rummo leaving there coming here to Indianapolis is certainly something now There's a big shakeup on the defensive side. It's like Bangalore's fans I think are very confused and I would be as well. We got the guy we got we're how why aren't why aren't we? And then you look across, you know state lines

Ravens got Lamar and they're rebuilding Steelers always have a winning season somehow. I have no idea how that works And then you look up to Cleveland It's like all right at least we're in a better spot to Cleveland, but you got a guy quarterback You got a guy quarterback and he's like does anybody think anybody talk about the Bengals win a Super Bowl? No, no, no right now It makes no sense cuz they got a quarterback that could win a super and if they were able to block Aaron Donald on that last play Joe burrow finds Jamar Chase.

They score a touchdown. They might win the Super Bowl. Now, granted, the Rams might answer. But the Bengals might win that fucking Super Bowl. And that's only a few years back. And now it's like, well, they're not gonna be able to figure out all the problems. What a weird team to be a fan of, I assume.

Legitimately a weird fan. Duke Tobin too kind of like backed himself in the corner when he said a couple weeks ago like Jamar Chase is gonna be the highest paid you know non quarterback in the NFL and then you see what happens with Miles Garrett And it's like the longer you wait like you might end up having to pay this guy Ten million dollars more than you anticipated when you initially said that. And like you said with the guys that you know at Triv Identified are gonna be a part of the long term Those are the guys you take care of early. Josh Allen getting a new due deal with four years left.

Saquon Barkley getting a new deal one year into his contract. You know those guys are part of your next, you know, four or five years at least. Get it done early or he's just going to cost you more and more money. As it goes. Well, in local, we've been talking about like since the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Like, hey, you got to be able to run the football now and you got to be able to, you know, stop the run. Like are the Bengals with T Higgins and Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow with no defense? Is that a team you would like, hey, in December when they got to go and play in cold

Cincinnati or Cleveland or Baltimore or Pittsburgh, like is that a team that's built to win in those kind of environments? I don't know. That goes back to the convo. Nobody says Cincinnati Bengals are gonna win the Super Bowl. That's a shame. I don't know that goes back to the convo. Nobody says since any bangles you're gonna win the Super Bowl. That's a shame Cuz Joe's a guy. Yeah, you're right though You wait you wait to pay guys when you're not you're not you maybe you're 80% sure that he's part of your long-term plans Or you're thinking I got I want to see what maybe let's see how it responds after one season if you can do it again But with Jamar, there's absolutely no question this guy you want him a bangle for life So you're right like you should have found a way to get this done yeah you know the Brown family though this is uh no granted they're in a new age you got an indoor facility they sold

the rights to the stadium for the first time within the last few years so everybody's got a dodge duck dip dive and dodge their way through the modern era speaking of quarterback signing big one in Washington Marcus Mariota who's his back? Another Domino. Another quarterback domino obviously we still have some questions at some other places like the Giants and the Steelers and the Vikings, but Marcus Marriottos returning to the Washington commanders on a one-year deal. Shout out to us. I think a lot of people forget what Marcus Marriottos means to the University of Oregon

and what he did in college. When we were out there and we got a chance to do the show from out there And he just walked through the Marcus Marriott a hallway Like this is actually the Marcus Marriott hallway all of his titles all of his records all of his trophies It was like a Oregon loves Marcus Marriott a B This guy's one of the most accomplished football players in the history of college ball and it's like he's obviously beloved He's been in the NFL a long time now We all remember him with the Titans and then whenever you went over there the Raiders and now he's behind Jaden Daniels and Washington Commanders and their full rebuild in transition from being a crap and a shite

Organization into a great one. It's like this dude's got to be a great dude like it's got a Marcus Barry Hoda's got to be a great human not just saying he isn't a good football player but like Great human I think is the overwhelming convo about old ooze Have you seen the when you popped up? I instantly thought of the the mic'd up clip when Derek Henry ran into Marcus Mariotta on the field after a game They were playing against each other like Derek Henry like went and jumped on his back and was going great like so Excited to see each other Mike. Oh, okay Yeah like you,

you get a glimpse into what kind of teammate Mariotta is when you see stuff like that. And you know, it didn't end well with the whole Tannehill situation in Tennessee and Tannehill and the Titans would go and have massive success very quickly after that. So I think Marcus Mariotta kind of got cast aside, obviously, and I don't know if that's the first time

he's ever had to deal with that in his life, but it was certainly loud. Then he bounces around now. He still has a home in Washington I assume Cliff loves a nice veteran quarterback in there Yeah, even the quarterback series the the original one with my home is Marriott It was one of those guys Kurt Cousins in Minnesota But Marriott was going through all that, you know injury stuff and they were following him the entire year and it does feel he cut Him on his birthday. No like kids, maybe his kid was being born? Yeah, like

And he went and got surgery and they didn't know, it was a weird thing, especially to have cameras following Yeah, it was a crazy situation but it felt like during that entire thing he was never like a nuisance or like a negative guy Like he seemed to still just be kind of one of those calm, cool, collected dudes Chris Godwin returned to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers earlier this week and uh right before came on our show and said that he thinks that Godwin turned down like an extra 20 million uh potentially to remain with the Bucs. Here's he chatting on the insiders uh last night. Yeah I mean to be honest I feel like it was like we were like really close I think that when you know when it comes to a situation like that like you have to really, really consider it.

And me and Mariah, we had some really tough conversations, had some really tough conversations with my agent, because at the end of the day, we're trying to figure out what's going to be best for our family. And again, not everybody would make that decision, and I'm not faulting anybody that would. But I think at the end of the day, like I was mentioning, and the presser,

like I have to go based off of my gut. I have to go based off of my intuition and what I feel like is gonna be best for us in the long run. And, you know, and being here where we call home, where we feel the most comfortable, where we can, you know, raise our newborn son. I think all of those things are big factors for us in making this decision.

People hate moving. People hate moving. Now granted, Florida and everybody's assuming that it's New England, even though I don't think it was ever. The question was left out, but yeah, the reason he said we were really close was it was brought up about going to New England right at the beginning. Okay, so New England freezing cold, obviously you deal with with weather you have to pick up and move up there state income tax Obviously very real part of this conversation

Obviously going to a question, you know, you don't know what you're getting into what his day-to-day look like in Tampa You know exactly what it is He said I don't hold against anybody that would take the extra money to go somewhere else but for us and our newborn son We're staying here. I love it. I love it out of Godwin He's a buccaneer for life and I assume Jason Light loves him as well AJ. Yeah I would assume when you hear that he turned down an extra 10 million or something that it was from a team that a 20 million that I was like okay well what terrible team offered him a bunch of money to try to come in it doesn't have a quarterback. It's not that's not the Patriots that's not what I think of when I think of the Patriots they got Drake Drake May and obviously are doing what they're doing. But yeah, I mean,

just listening to Godwin speak right there, you could tell like, all right, this dude gets it. Like this dude is a professional and yeah, the Bucs are lucky to have him. I think it's awesome that he's staying there. And if you think about, you know, what Vrabel's entire thing has been like, we got opportunity and compensation and he, I think he knew he's going to have to overpay for some people that he wanted in there. But if you think about who he's signing and how... Like Godwin, he's the culture guy that Vrabel was trying to get in there. Dog. Complete dog. Works his ass off. Be loved.

It's like, that's a pro that you want in your building. So that's potentially why Vrabel was willing to pay so much. Like, hey, Milton, you're a guy that we want in here for sure. Godwin, you're a guy that we want in here for sure. Godwin, you're a guy that we want in here for sure. Crazy that he turned down that time. If it was 20 million, that is a lot of cash to play ball. But once again, maybe he just loves being down in Tampa. Yeah, we don't know how that was spread out, what incentives, what per game bonuses, whatever the language was in the deal. But for a for receiving obviously the money is great and very high on the priority list when you're free agent

But for a receiver you're that's one of the most dependent positions on the field. So you got to have a quarterback You got to have a good play call. You got to have a good offensive line Hopefully other good weapons around you so that would have been a big risk for him football and production wise Going to New England. Obviously Drake May is very, very talented, but we haven't seen what he is in this league. We know who Baker Mayfield is. We know what that offensive line is. We saw Bucky Irvin.

He was unbelievable last year as a rookie. You still got Mike Evans, Hall of Fame on the other side of you. McMillan who had a good rookie year. Otten who was a good tight end. So whatever other weapons they add, that's a great situation for Chris Gobbins to stay in. Heartbreaker for New England. Yeah, yeah, definitely tough, but you do get it.

And I love Drake May, and I think he's going to be a Hall of Famer. But I feel like around the league, you don't know if the players think that. It's not as if Drake May went out and lit the world on fire. They still have the fourth overall pick. They won. I think Drake started for one of their wins. So it's not as if he's, you know, all of a sudden. Not everybody's going to be a Hall of Famer either. Yes. You know, that's kind of coming up in conversation in, you know, the Colts world with me, you know, a lot of people just attacking me for pointing out things that are obvious red flags in my eyes as somebody, you know, especially at the quarterback position, but I'm optimistic

that it will be able to change. I'm optimistic that AR will be able to change, but it's like a lot of these guys don't work out like that is just a fact of the matter. Like if you look at the percentages of guys that end up hitting and then guys that end up missing in the NFL draft, especially at the quarterback position, there's a lot of misses like that is just that is how it is It's a very difficult position It requires all of you all the time because the people you're playing against especially the ones that are good and great

They're doing that so you have to do it in return. It's not an easy thing So it's like I agree with what you're saying about Drake may like what I'm watching Drake It's like he's got all the intangibles seems like he's got what it takes to be a guy But yeah massive question mark probably for a lot of people like I'm gonna have to see it and Godwin at this stage Knows Baker can spin it. Yeah knows that that offense can make magic and it's like I'm gonna stay in the warm I'm gonna pay no state income tax. I'm gonna stay at my house my community my school And I know Baker and I are gonna be able to be productive. I guess that's a whole nother added aspect of it to your point Yeah, nothing against Chris Godwin either. He's also played every single year of his career with Mike Evans

You know, like I don't know if obviously Evans has been hurt So he's been the number one guy during games but going into a season for an entire season if he's been a number one receiver For his entire career. It's kind of like the same thing with T Higgins like T Higgins We all love think he's a number one receiver for his entire career. It's kind of like the same thing with T Higgins. Like T Higgins, we all love thinking he's a number one receiver, but he's never been a number one receiver because he's been playing with Jamar Chase. So it's that question mark as well. And truly he is set up better for success now with Tampa. Whereas even with Drake, another thing not being talked about as much,

like a second year, second offensive coordinator, second offense. Has to go through that- Second culture. Second culture, yeah like has to go through that culture second culture Yeah, it has to go through that entire thing again. I know I still feel great about drake and the patreons this year. Absolutely Especially with the new guys they're bringing in to kind of reset everything But yeah, it just makes more sense for chris gaud when staying home, uh, david car on nfl network Uh d bone reporting this in the group text David Carr on NFL Network D bone reporting this in the group text When he was asked which quarterback on a new team is best set up for success in 2025 a breakthrough year

He said a Daniel Jones Is it for a good competition training camp it's's an easy choice open cop. This is yeah, it's an easy choice Until the Steelers sign their quarterback. No, it'll still be Dan Jones. What's going on with the Steelers? Are they signing a quarterback to any time or no? No, I told you it's not a full moon until Friday So Aaron's moon rocks need to charge and then this what you agreed. Thank you. You texted me said you're right actually stocked Aaron That's exactly what's happening. So no nothing. Nothing. Hey, how do you feel about Aaron has said nothing to me? I don't know about to you or to anybody I would assume I assume he's not said anything all these Situations that have happened over the last what five six years we've done this with Aaron There is always leaks from people and then Aaron comes on this show and he goes

Anything you hear is not coming from my team. Okay okay my team does not this is not how this goes but every offseason there is sources are telling us sources are telling there was a report today that he was coming on the show today on our show today it was making his rounds around Pittsburgh with like actual media people I was getting texts from people in Pittsburgh hey her today's a big one sad that I'm missing it but I'll catch the clip afterwards what do you think he's gonna say and I'm like who am I actually asking who and they're like isn't Aaron coming on your shoulder I'm like no like what who who said it was being reported in Pittsburgh

like he's coming on show he's making his decision which even more so leads the insers going I'm tired of waiting for this guy yeah Aaron never said he was coming on the show we never said he was coming on this show But the expectation I guess from some people is that he was going to come on This show today at the start of the new league year and make his decision on what he wants to do Does he even want to play? I mean there's like there's so many levels to this but the entire city of Pittsburgh is like well We're waiting and he's like, okay

Okay, I didn't know I had a shot clock on me from a city that i've never played him before but also uh, Trying to see how what the best is so like it is He's a fascinating cat but this quarterback situation Like giants are they talking to russ? And aaron so if aaron goes to pittsburgh does that mean russ is going to the giants? What about the vikings? How come they haven't just come out and said jj's our guy We're not looking at the veteran quarterback? And how come we haven't heard anything

about the Vikings potentially trying to sign? This is us just all being like, Aaron at the Vikings would be sweet. And we're not the only- You're right though, the Vikings, if they are, if that's the decision they're making, like, hey, JJ's our dude, they're gonna have to eventually say that.

Like, why wouldn't they have said that by now? But once again, they don't have to do that, but that could be a hypothetical that people start reporting. Like, today's the day that minnesota is going to come out and say that jj's even though minnesota never said this and they're probably not expecting to do it that's kind of seemingly how this world works now it's like minnesota is going to have to tell us who their quarterback is before he ended that before the end of the day it's like they never said that they're going to do that just like aaron has never said he's going

to do it has aaron even said he's gonna fucking play again. I don't Legitimate incident anything. He hasn't said anything has he you tell me? No, for real like that's I'm the one I say all the time. Yeah, I think he's too good to not play I think he will play but that's just me saying that and as a fan of watching him play and I want him to go To Pittsburgh too, but I don't know anything. I don't know if he knows anything Yeah, you want him to go to Pittsburgh, which I think is a that is actual new like people in Pittsburgh should be like AJ Hawk who I don't want to put like a rating system on Aaron's friends because I don't know if there's a topic these topics there is

in Aaron's myspace top eight for sure like that is no questions asked so that is what he wants Aaron has heard the pleas via text messages from maybe some yinzers about potentially going there But Aaron is also probably hearing shit from other places as well And this is like a massive decision for Aaron Rodgers, you know in his entire life So I I am eager for him to make his decision. I'll text him every morning Let's go. That's literally what I text them or I'll send like the eyeballs Because I know the eyeballs will get them, you know, cuz the eyeballs are like, oh, what do you know? He'll send it'll go what and I'll go let's go dude, and then there's no response afterwards, you know, there's no no response

So I think everybody's kind of eagerly awaiting but in Pittsburgh It's a lot of like this guy needs to fucking tell us whether or not he's come on We're about sick of it and it's like I assume the Giants some Giants people are probably thinking the same thing and then Vikings people you listen Dan or loves he talked about he's like well. He doesn't we don't know way. It's bad idea. Okay, all right There's this Russ Russ wants him to do something as well doesn't he I assume Russ does I assume a lot of these rookie quarterbacks Are wondering what the the draftable quarterbacks were are certainly flustered about what's gonna happen because you know where he goes matters How about Kirk Cousins, you know, yeah, like Kirk Cousins everybody's just There's been different reports. There's no way they're gonna keep Kirk Cousins have Michael Pennings, Jr

Be the quarterback is what everybody says, you know, thanks then there was reports during a combine Falcons are okay with paying Kirk Cousins 37 million bucks and having to be a backup quarterback. And it's like, is that real or is that not real? Haven't heard his name at all being talked about in this entire quarterback carousel though, so maybe it is real. Yeah, I mean, I feel like, why wouldn't it be real?

He's already guaranteed that money from the Falcons, right? Yeah. Yeah, you drafted Pinnix with the idea that if it doesn't work out with Kirk cousin He looked he looked great for a run and then he looked really he looked terrible before they benched him So I mean I Kurt wouldn't want to be a backup. Of course, you only got a few years left I would think as a quarterback, but yeah, unless the team is willing to give something up to get him in there I can see him being back up there in Atlanta Dan Rolofsky said Kenny Pickett's gonna be the starter in Cleveland.

AJ, your thoughts? Didn't say definitely. He said there's a chance Kenny Pickett's the starter, which there definitely is. There's definitely a chance Kenny Pickett's the starter in Cleveland. Didn't even think about that. I was just like, all right, Kenny Pickett's gonna be like the veteran backup now. That's gonna be like his new role. And Rolofsky was like, who else?

Yeah, there's no chance. Who else is gonna be there? No chance. Zero percent chance Kenny Pick. Really? Got number two overall pick. Zero percent chance. Number two overall pick, you know? And Schafter said, they're taking the quarterback.

And then you see what Mary Kay said about Shador. So maybe Kenny starts the season? Yeah. First couple games. See how it goes. And then you bring in the rookie, or do you drop the rookie in there and have Kenny Pickett be the veteran

voice of reason and Interesting for Kenny that he is now that guy though, you know, like in my for my thought whenever you got traded there I'm like, all right Kenny Pickett's getting brought in for some veteran, you know leadership here to do a little and it's like not that long Go he was drafted to be the guy for the Pittsburgh Steelers and now in my head my first reaction he's like good for Kenny Pickett doing this and And now in my head my first reaction is like good for Kenny Pickett doing this and Yeah, Dan Rolofsky mentioned he'd be a starter earlier today was the first time it crossed my mind That like oh Kenny Pickett might be the fucking starter for the Cleveland Browns. That's real. That is a very real situation You're saying no, that's just my opinion. I don't have any sources on this

Just my boy, I guess that can't be used as a source as up. So yeah, according to my sources Kenny Pickett will not be the starter. He will go to rookie quarterback and he will be the starter. According to source says, also known as my thoughts, you know, because I've talked to a lot of people. So do I count or not? I think I should count. Kenny's a great guy to have in that building. And you know, Mary Odey just got signed. I just talked about Kurt Cousins being potentially a backup because Michael Pennex, he doesn't have the cleanest bill of health

either. So when you lose a quarterback, we all know how everything could just go downhill. You have no chance. So yeah, I can see him being in the building. But if I'm Andrew Berry, you just gave, you know, obviously miles 40. I don't know where they are health-wise or signing-wise with their offensive line. But if you have a decent offensive line with Stefanski, I think you put a rookie quarterback in there that you feel confident if you draft that number two position. And we've talked about so many times how the backup quarterback position is the position that is going to get playing time at some point in the season because of how long the season is.

You get a Kirk Cousins type quarterback for two games, down the stretch where you need to win for like a playoff chance Like yeah, you're gonna be pretty pumped You held on to them and just ate that 37 million versus, you know, the massive dead cap hit that I assume is contract Let's go to hockey. Shall we Oh vet skin? OV is just nine goals away from breaking the great one way knows goal scoring record. He's gonna do it this season. This is insane Yeah, it is insane because this was at one point thought of as untouchable unthinkable And here we are just nine goals away with a lot of hockey left to play and he did it in a season which he broke His leg and came back. Yeah, so when you look at that, it's one of the all-time great achievements in

Sports in general. If he's able to pull this off, which I think he will. And then there's the conversation of if he does do this, does he come back next season? I think that all depends on how the Capitals postseason goes. Right now, they're the best team record wise in the NHL. So they got a good shot at a Stanley Cup. Does Ovi break this record, maybe win a second cup and ride off into the sunset or does he come back for more and chase more? What does Ovi Deisel want to do? What else is there to chase if you already get the goal

scoring record? You want to be remembered as the greatest goal scorer of all time? Well, he is certainly that and that was not him scoring on that empty net right there. No, he passed it up so that guy could get his first career hat trick. Which is unbelievable because we're talking about history he could clap on that thing from the blue line yeah which was also big that would have been fucking sick if he would have a big narrative on him early in his career was he's not a great teammate he doesn't pass the puck he's selfish all he wants to do is score and then you see things like this as we evolve over time was that Russian was

that the Russian KGB was a Russian Wouldn't that kind of the thing about Russian players as a whole? Is there a little standoffish maybe? Obviously the language different than ours. That was kind of the talk about Russian players as a whole. Yeah there's a couple stereotypes like that. Like not as physical, you know a little more flashy, don't like to play defense, just like to shoot. But then we see Gino when he comes to the Pittsburgh Penguins, he's awesome. Teammates love him, everybody loves him. His parents are beloved by the entire place. And Geno will fight you.

And I think Ovi, he's been so awesome for so long, watching his ass just fucking, just, he's just waiting. And then as soon as that thing comes over, and it's just, and I think he has a kid now. I think I watch him and his kid hitting some in the driveway. It's like, what a weapon. Nine away from breaking the all time record.

That's impressive. Now, speaking of records, here's a man that has all of them. You want to just talk about the amount of success that an athlete could potentially have, both while playing and retired. This man's name is at the top of the goddamn list. He has now teamed up with the wonderful company Beatbox, who I watched their Shark Tank last night to learn a little bit more three founders. It's this it is a carton of

Wine type party punch is kind of how it's described and it has eleven point one percent alcohol in it Okay, it is a good time quick. Well, there's now a shack themed beatbox It is blueberry meeting lemonade in a flavor mash-up So big it could only be inspired by this man. Ladies and gentlemen Shaquille O'Neal Hold on we have some hold on we have some fridge. Yeah, we got some in the fridge We got a we got a cool and down you you drink that cold. I assume Shaq right? It's delightful That's I do first of all, you know the rules Okay You drink that cold I assume Shaq right? It's delightful

He definitely forgot the rules Connor Shaq, how are you? What the hell is going on? I don't know. He won't forget again. The guy with the long hair, what's your name? Connor Shack. How are you? The guy in the middle, what's your name? Ty. How you doing Shack? The guy with the white shirt. Tony. Shack. And then the brother, let me speak to you in the black name.

What's up my boy? What's your name? What's up OG Triple O Three? And then there's AJ, sexsymbol.com. Perfect place, perfect hair, perfect t-shirt, what about those? What's happening big Gizel? Hey your Shaq Gummies, Shaq your gummies are a big hit with all my, I got four kids and they all ask for the Shaq Gummies almost every day of my life. There he is. Tank top man. Uh huh. Tank top man. There you go.

There you go. Now, I'm ready to talk about Beatbox with 11.1% alcohol inside of it. This is the Shaq inspired blueberry lemonade. 11.1% alcohol at a 230 in the afternoon on Wednesday something, you know, this is certainly good Are you trying to race? Oh Yeah, yeah Yeah

You're corporate and I'm corporate according to to rules, you're not allowed to drink alcohol on these shows, is that true? We're on TV, we're only on the internet right now. I think we're good. All right, so you sure? Yeah, I think we're good. OK, all right, you ready? Hold on, hold the phone.

Did you give me that? Is that one got some gimmick in it? This one's fresh out of the box. This one's brand new. All right, you know what? Let me get a new one out of the box this one's brand new all right you know let me get a new one out the box oh you're saying all right there you go try to do perfect this up the bumps all right this is the there's the box damn that's good all right here's the box delivery

Shaq beatbox flavor all right let's do it a little bit Hey Shaq here's to you always trailblazing always Raising with the amount of money coming through that guy's brain It is nothing short of captivating. Cheers to you Shaq. Appreciate you man You're set, go. You lose. Hold on, hit that thing, hit that. Are you not entertained? Got it. That's all. Hey, that was my first, that's all.

Hey, that was my first, that was my first beatbox as a whole, but also the first one of yours. That is good. Which flavor you got? Oh yeah. I got blueberry lemonade. So the blueberry lemonade I believe is the Shaq one. This one is the hard tea, it was delightful.

The LSU hard tea? Yeah. Hey, oh. That's what this beatbox. Yeah. S, that's what his beatbox. Yeah, suck that, suck that beatbox down. Let's talk about a check. How'd you get involved with the beatbox? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to. Hey, yo, let's talk about beatbox. How did you get involved with this? And how excited are you for DJ Diesel with a little beat box out there having a good time all summer long?

Well, you know, I do a lot of like 150 to 200 shows a year And one time I saw these kids drinking a drink and I was like, you're dirty and I tried it I was like, what the hell is this? And then I looked into the company and I saw that my good friend mark cuba was involved I called him and said hey mark. I'd like to meet with the people from beat boxing. You know, we talked about, you know, partnership. And you know, I've always tried to get at the beginning of companies, you know, to help them grow. You know, being a sports guy,

I have the mentality of what can I do as a great player to help you win the championship? You know, you mentioned money earlier in your show for me is never about money, but it's just it's about no Not really, but it's just always about the opportunity You know A mentor of mine passed away yesterday. Julian Bridgman, man, and he was a great businessman and I said yesterday on the show that He was a great businessman. And I said yesterday on the show that I tried to emulate him because my father did a great job of teaching

me all the torture stories. And every time I would come in with a C, he was like, you know, athlete lost 30 million. You know, like he would always advocate education. So this is just me continuing my father's legacy and just taking advantage of opportunities. Because you know, Pat is just me continuing my father's legacy and just, you know, taking advantage of opportunities. As you know, Pat, there's a lot of football players that you play with and play against that don't have anything. I know a lot of NBA

players that don't have anything. So I'm blessed that I have the opportunity. And this year's is just about being a businessman, helping the company grow. I wish my assistant was here because I'm gonna tell you guys a secret, I never know what I'm making a deal because I never want any deal to be monetary related. I believe in the company, I join the company, I invest, I just wanna help the company grow and then at the end whatever happens happens,

but being the great competitors, being the great athletes that we are, we strive for number one. They showed me a chart yesterday and we were, you know, they was talking about how great they are. I was like, we're not number one. Yeah, but we're gonna, no, there is no but. I want Boom, I want this company,

I want their ass out of there. Boom, boom, so for me, this is what it's all about. And I just want- So when you talk about trusting the process, you genuinely believe that. Like you're more so in the work and the grind and then we'll find out what we make at the end of that. I respect that a shit ton. Now you have garnered a lot of capital through the trusting the process in your brand and

the way you go about doing your business is seemingly spotless. I don't think I've ever seen you pick something that isn't a winner. Your gummies. I'm not like a sugar candy guy. I'm a chocolate guy. I like chocolate candies. Your Shack heads gummies, we have them in the office. The sour ones are the best gummies I've ever tasted. So like selecting that company to work with is a business skill that not everybody has. This shit tastes very good and obviously it does because Shack is a part of it. It feels like you have a selection process and good taste in things that can have success.

And I think they do the same exact thing with you on the return. Now you talked about, what was his name? Guy passed away yesterday. I just found out he's a billionaire, I think ex basketball player, right? Ex NBA guy. Yeah, like good business over there in the NBA world.

A lot of good business people. I was having a conversation with my son the other day because my father used hard, distant-faring tactics to motivate me, which worked for me. So my son, you know, tell him stories. So I was telling him that I use jealousy to motivate me. Now I work my ass off and I don't really care

about the list and all that, but about 10 years ago, the Forbes list came up of the richest retired athletes. And I knew, I heard him say, shit, I gotta be number one, all the fucking shit I've done. I know I'm number one. And when I saw it, it was Junior Bridger number one. I was like, who the hell is this guy? And then Michael and then Magic and then Dave Bing

and then me, five. So now I'm pissed. So now I'm pissed. So instead of hating and doing that, now I just studied that Junior Bridgman. I know that name, played for the boss. Like damn, he did Wendy's. Okay, oh, I like chicken.

I'm gonna start big chicken. Dave Bing is doing stuff and still. Jordan with the shoes, I got chicken. I'm gonna start being chicken. You know, Dave Bain is, you know, doing stuff in steel. Jordan with the shoes, you know, I got my own shoes. And, you know, Magic is doing a lot of philanthropy work. So I take all that stuff, and I just ramp it up even more. So, you know, I always tell people, it's okay to be jealous sometimes, but don't turn that jealousy into envy.

Turn it into motivation. I'm jealous of you, brother. You got a hell of a show. I'm here talking to my cousin, my producer. I'm like, how can I get a show like that and we're studying everything you do but you work a little too hard for me. No, no, no. You work your ass off too. Yeah, why am I doing that all day? Three hours in a day obviously a little different and we... Three hours? Oh hell no, that's too long Pat. Yeah you could do it though. You could do it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Yeah, you could do it though. You could do it The inside the NBA I mean we're stooges so it feeds us and I won't be doing this forever I look at guys like Rich Eisen and Dan Patrick and I'm like how in Stephen a even like how do you do this?

For 30 years. I don't know how you continue the juice and the energy But with that being said I've seen you on TV and movies and everything since I'm a kid, you know? I don't want to age you, but you work your fucking ass off, which is why I think I have so much respect for you and for all the success that you've done. You just fucking aged me when I'm a kid. Not that fucking old. Yeah, when I was fucking six years old,

I remember watching you, you know, do your thing. Hey, hey, can we put up a fun poll right now? Sure. I want you to ask your viewers, what's sexy, your arms or AJ's face? Put AJ's face back up there. Hold on, let me check. I can't tell. Yeah, let me get a good check.

AJ's got a fresh cut for you too, Shaq. He remembered the jaw line was- Don't be flexing too much. Yeah, well, I am. So do we take the photo? Do we take the photo? Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah, well I am. So do we take the photo? Do we take the photo? Yeah. All right.

All right, good. It's done. Shaq, I watched that Shark Tank on this beatbox. Mark Cuban put a million down for 33% of the beatbox. How far into the company is the beatbox right now? And what is next for you and them to kind of world domination with this thing? We just want to continue to grow.

We just got a phone call with Walmart and we're sending a brand new partnership to them. You know, it was just about growing, just about getting the word out. We dominate the festivals, want to continue to dominate festivals and then eventually take it worldwide. My views and strategy may be different from,

you know, the founders, but any growth is great growth to me. You know, a lot of people want to go for numbers and do all this, but if we were better than we were yesterday, to me, that's because I'm trying to be proud. Like, you know, the reason why we created Shag Gummies is that I'm gonna start pissing a lot of people off and you know you can't with my ass. So, what can we do?

Just bite my head off. If I don't set you in any way, hey, I want you to just take these right here. I want to take you to the club with me in your throat. You just take one of these and you're watching me. That's right. Get a little beatbox in you and then go ahead. Hey, you can even rip me in half. Wow, look how tough you are.

Rip my head in half. Yeah, that's awesome. Break my freaking face off. The shakalisha gummies are delicious. That was very good. Hold on, hold on. AJ, we do this every time. You just sit there and talk.

No, he's coming. He's coming around the corner. I will. I'm getting all this shit out of the way, Shaq. I'm getting all this shit out of the way. Allq. I'm getting all this shit out of the way. All right, that's a different. This isn't shit, but you get it. It is.

Yes, I understand. Yes, I understand the language. Now with that being said, go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Shaq, getting to basketball a little bit, what's your thoughts on this current NBA season, everything going on? There's always drama. People talking about too many threes being shot all over this.

How do you think the rest of the season goes, and who do you think actually rest of the season goes and who do you think actually finds a way to win this thing you think Boston can repeat? You know when I was a kid, the NBA of course you have access to all the games, but the NBA always had certain storylines. So when I first started watching the game was about how innovative Dr. J was, how the style was, he had the best. Then after that, okay here comes this Patrick Hillen guy, this David Rodsey guy. Oh, don't

forget about Magic and Bird. And then when I started playing it was all about Jordan and the Bulls. So to answer your question, we have some interesting storylines. Cleveland, can they overtake Boston? OKC, can they come out the West? Who's the MVP, Derek Roche? Yarnist and a Dane, can they get it done? So, you know, it's a lot of, you know, the Lakers, you know, Charles Barker said a couple weeks ago, the team was terrible. Now they're in two, they're not in Lufa. So we have a lot of interesting storylines. As a fan, I do think there's too many threes. The part that I hate about the game, Pat, imagine every football team running in the same place.

How boring would it be? So I've said this many times, every team does a three dribble handoff, top of the key pick and roll switch. I would just hope that coaches will go back to being innovative. You use what you have. Like Denver does a great job of, okay, we got the best big men in the league who

can shoot and post up, let's just do that. But I think I don't know what the ratings are. Like I hear different rating numbers. I wish there was like a ratings guy that we can go to and he would show us. But the games that we've been having on TNT have been very interesting. The game last night, Indiana, the coach runs a 1987 Hoosier fucking play. Great shot. Look right here, and you got to know as a defensive guy,

don't let Tyrese or Siakam get the ball. I would rather have a guy like Miles Turnish shoot. So they run this little football play. Pat, you would know what you know type of Call that is a little screen there a little clear out here brother great play That's right. Tyrese right here gets the ball a guy. You know what to get the ball He takes it he shoots it in rhythm filed by Yanis and the three that was a great game I'm sure people in Indiana, you know saw that game and it was like they're having fun

so, you know, I'm up and down about the players and how they play. And that's because I'm critical because I expect greatness. As a kid, I saw greatness, I was able to obtain greatness. So as a fan, that's what I wanna see. I can remember going to the Chicago Bulls Arena and seeing like, this is how fucking champions play. This is how fucking fans supposed to treat you. You know, I remember playing on teams where I missed a shot and the main people booed like Jordan missed a shot. And it's like, hey, we still love you. And I get some of this love. And then, you know, one guy said, yeah, you can get some better love when you start fucking winning. I gotta start winning.

All right, I got you. Do you think that the modern greatness though, because it looks different than the greatness of the past is something that is going to be tough for the greatest big man of all time to buy in on whether or not like Tyree Souther Burton, obviously. Go ahead. My mother said a very simple term. They're not like you So sometimes I have to get out of my ways

But one way one way I will not get out of this the formula. I know to be a great big man Got an average over 28 points. You got an average over 10 to 12 rebounds. I know that I will not change that How you get to 28? That's okay. Like last night, my good friend Adam Lefko was, Oh, um, so I don't know what it's for 20 points. And I didn't smile. He's like, we're not having like, no, bro. Anybody can get 20. Like I expect greatness from a guy. It just had 22 assists though. I don't care. No, no. He did triple double. He's got his fucking triple double. That's what I heard.

You said, I don't care. I can get more than that. It's like, god damn. I remember one time I had 50 points and I missed like two or three of those. And I came home and everybody was, oh, I'm looking at a great game. And I'm looking at my father and he's like,

you should have had 60. I was like, no. He's like, what the fuck you mean, huh? 50 plus plus with 60, huh? He's like, what the fuck you mean, huh? 50 plus plus with 62, motherfucker? That's awesome. Always wanting more and expecting more, especially from our best in the world, is awesome. You guys, though, you guys are like a team in the NBA. I think as regular fans you count all the teams that are in the NBA, well, most of of them at least I haven't seen a lot of them play a single game But most of them play and then you guys inside the NBA are a team like a representative of the league

You guys should be incredibly pumped about that. And obviously Charles Barkley took a shot a big dome Kendrick Perkins and the Everything like that and it was a magical moment I think for TV and obviously that's gonna happen you guys are coming over to ESPN next year Is that is that do I have that understood and when that happens what changes for you or what changes for the show? Licensing they're licensing you guys licensing you guys. I don't know the legal ramifications. I don't want to say the wrong thing here, but it's definitely good for TV.

And one thing about us being athletes, I think you can say whatever you want, as long as you say it respectfully. You know, I don't have a problem with people saying certain things and criticizing me. It's part of the job. You know, before I get upset, I always say to myself, if there's some proof inside the criticism, you just gotta take it. This is the nature of our business.

I remember one time I asked a person, say hey, I'm not talking about when it comes to great plays all the time. I say, because we couldn't go to you in the fourth quarter. You miss a lot of free buzz. Now, there's truth in that, can't fucking get mad, so I have to accept it. But- Yeah, I would have gotten mad the other times, you. I know, but the title that I do own, I am the most down in the big,

well, one of the most down in the big man history. And I'm fine. So the thing with Kendrick and Charles, that's the same thing we were doing the court. So as long as those guys keep it WWE, you got Charles talking about, I walked through a graveyard with a whistle and you got Kendrick talking about the five or not.

Y'all ain't gonna fight. If you're all gonna fight, I'm gonna be the fucking promoter and we're gonna do it on fucking May 19th. If not, you talk, we talk and and let's just keep the shit going. Just keep having fun. All the smoke, I believe, is what Charles said. I want all the smoke whenever he started the entire thing. It was wonderful.

That's why I think everybody loves your show. Now let's talk about some of the teams this year. More specifically, one of the teams that you mentioned out of the West. Ty, as a question for you. Yeah, Shaq, you mentioned OKC earlier, and there's been kind of a narrative going around today, actually. I saw it on Twitter that, hey, you know, people in the NBA, they're not necessarily afraid of OKC or they don't respect them. When you look at them, they maybe have the

MVP this year. Do you think they're a team that can actually, you know, win a title this year? Do you think they're still because they're so young a couple years out. I hate using this word, but if they continue to play well and if this guy continues to shine on the shine, they definitely have a chance. I've always been an advocate of the other so Jay wheels don't have to play, the guards don't have to play, the big guys are saying all those guys don't have to play well. I think they can get it done, but they have to get it done. You know, the reason why they're not getting the respect

because, and listen, it happens to a lot of people. You have bigger names and premier players, they're always gonna get the first right to refuse. See, like LeBron's still here, so he's first, and then you've got Austin, they're the champs, they're second, and then you've got, you know, Lugo going to the Lakers, like he's third, so. And you know, Oklahoma City is fairly a very small market,

you know, they're playing well, but they still have to get it done. But the fact that teams don't fear them means they're gonna have to do things 100% correctly, at least four out of seven games. Well, is it last year SGA really came into the lexicon of the conversation, I think, and then this year he's just continued to go.

Are they young? What is the OKC model for those that don't? Are they young and they've kind of developed? Or are they free agent? And what do you think is the best in the NBA for team building, Shaq? First of all, Pat McKean, Agent Smith, what the fuck is a lexicon?

I'm gonna be throwing those fucking big lexicon. I'm bad, right? Hey, that was pretty fucking good, brother. My diction. My diction. My G is a big one. Yeah, my diction's pretty solid. Yeah, yeah.

No, in the zeitgeist, SGA came into the zeitgeist. You know, I think they can get it done. You know, I always tell people that the most viable I lesson, the most viable lesson I learned was in my last year of Lando, when we beat the Bulls a year before and came back to sweep us. As I'm walking off the court, Michael Jordan says, before you succeed, you must first learn to fail.

I'm like, yeah, whatever. But then when I got home, I was like, what the fuck did he say? Before you succeed, you must first learn to fail. So that angered me. So I always had to play. So, you know, hopefully that tough loss they had last year angered them. And it looked like it was angering them

because they're playing well. So hopefully they learned from that and can move on. But, you know, jokers gonna have something to say. Lakers gonna have something to say. Gold to stake can get in. They're gonna have something to say. On that note, star power throughout the West Coast is very real. D-Butt has a question for you. Yeah, speaking of Golden State, obviously Steph got a running mate now with Jimmy Butler and

they've been kind of hitting the ground running since he came over there and a lot of people talk about you, you don't give certain players their flowers and we talked about shoot too many threes and all these things. Steph Curry completely changed the game and I've been an advocate of him being in that gold conversation because of his completely changed the game. I've been an advocate of him being in that GOAT conversation because of his impact on the game, what he's done first unanimous MVP, four chips in the bronze era. I saw you put him in that GOAT conversation too.

That means much more when it's coming from G14, classified, big diesel. Why did you say that? What do you think about Steph actually being in that GOAT conversation? Because if you're gonna have a conversation, I want to have a real conversation. Don't just put who you want to put in it. If we're going to have a national, worldwide conversation who the GOAT is, I want all the recipients.

That's all. For example, my guy's always going to be Mike. Before Mike, it was Dr. J. But now we got Mike. I played with a guy that was a fucking killer. He helped me get three. I don't have a problem saying it. I know I was MVP three times in a row but without him I thought okay I'm gonna get three. You gotta put his name in there. Fucking LeBron. You gotta put his name in there. Now there's a guy that is so fucking good. Every team plays like his team in the last five, six years.

And there's never been a shooter like him. And he's winning the championship. How come his name isn't in the conversation? Listen, we live in a world with eight billion people. You're going to fucking pick who you want to share a pick with. I don't have a problem with you picking any of those names, but you know, we all talk about who greatest is. I want to hear everybody in the conversation. Like we're going to talk about this on TV and I'll just talk about your two people. Like, you know, and then from a big man said, what about fucking Greenville do Jibarra? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of what? Yeah. I mean, like, we're going to have this conversation and put out tweets, put out fucking polls, and put out an Instagram post over the recipients, and then you fucking pick.

I don't really care who you pick. Jordan is my guy. I don't care about anything else. Jordan is my guy. That's my pick. And whoever don't like it, go to the store and get some Chackalicious. I'm gonna be like, rip my face apart and chew it.

Well, I think if I was you and I went into Chicago and I saw Michael Jordan miss some shots and get clapped, I'd probably think this is the greatest guy of all time as well. Everybody has different experiences. Steph Curry, you talk about changing basketball as a whole globally. I mean, you've got seven footers now. Wemby coming in from France. It's like 3- three three three every level Yeah, every level LA Fitness

I think because it's not exciting finish it people can't Yeah, the no look is kind of the only thing he's got you're talking about not If you have fucking tremendous finishing power Yeah, imagine if he had fucking tremendous finishing power. Man, there would be no fucking, like, his name, like, right now he's just a shooter. Like, you know, all the other guys can shoot, fade away. No, I'm talking about, no, not fucking Dunnebourne, I'm talking about going to the land and just fucking- Like, Domirid! Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like that. Imagine that. So, I think, you know, because he doesn't really finish like that people overlooking, but I'm not overlooking. Yeah. Well, we appreciate you doing that, especially with the platform you have and who you are. Last question. Obviously, we know you're very busy. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Shaq, obviously huge game tonight. Thunder Celtics. How do you feel about that game? And then, you know, people are always saying, you know, this might be a finals preview. And you mentioned, you know, all the guys that, you guys that Shea would have to go through in the West. How much of a difference is regular season ball to play off basketball? What is that level that everyone else goes to as the rounds progress?

My answer to the first part of your question, starting a new show called I don't watch that shit when I'm not working. I got shit to do. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Go to dinner, go on a fucking hot date or watch fucking thunder in the Boston. Rich enough to go out on a hot date for a thousand buck a dollar. I'll answer you on the question. Uh, you know, what I learned from the great Phil Jackson is you pace yourself.

You know, if you have championship aspirations, you beat the team that you're supposed to be. You stay dominant at home and you stay above 500 in a row. So where are they playing at? Boston. Okay, so Boston being the championship team, they know they got to put this team away. So I expect Boston to win tonight. However, OKC wants to be fucking great. So they know in order to be the champ, you have to go for the champ.

So if I'm playing the champs, I'm letting them know that if we see you in the finals, it's 40 I'm giving you now, next time it's gonna be fucking 50. So I hope it's a good game and good luck to all fans watching because I won't be fucking watching. OK, we'll send you an update. We'll send you an update. We're going to have some beat boxes tonight. The Shaquille flavor, the Shaq flavor is obviously incredible.

That tastes way too good to be 11.1% alcohol. That's a problem. It is 11.1%, I'll tell you that. Listen, I want to say I know we're having fun, but all the people that are drinking the V-Box, you know better. Don't fucking drink and die. Drink responsibly. Amen.

Especially Uber, Lyft, everything that's capable nowadays. There's no reason to get behind a wheel. We appreciate you, Shaq. Keep killing it. Thank you. Thank you, AJSexyface.com. Thank you, Shaq. Appreciate you.

All right. Ladies and gentlemen, Shaq. Yeah, Shaq. Shaq started a bunch of websites. Yeah, AJ Hawk. He does. He has so many websites, doesn't he? No, he has so many websites. He has so many websites., Shaq. Yes, yes. Started a bunch of websites. Yeah, AJ Hawks. He does.

He has so many websites, doesn't he? Now I know why you got the first cut, AJ. Yeah, it makes more sense. Yeah. For Shaq. Yeah, it was for Shaq. Just real quick, you wouldn't be able to stop him. You know that.

Shaq. Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say that's right. Yeah, you do. I would not be able to stop anything. You know that. Yeah, you know. Just so I know, thanks for reminding me.

Yeah, just a little hit in the... Oh no. In the paint? On the block? Foxy? Yeah, of course. No, no, no. No.

Different way. Most dominant. Exactly. Exactly. The most dominant. For Shaq. Oh no. Oh yeah, Shaq wouldn't he? International ball is never gonna work for Shaq. No. Not most dominant. Oh no. Oh yeah, Shaq wouldn't.

International ball is never going to work for Shaq. No, not with Shaq though. Well, we need one because he's an international man. Shaq! Be boxed! Boom! Yeah, that was good. You know, we can't call you a greatest ball time because we didn't give you the ball

in four court because you're going to make free throws. He had to be so pissed when he heard that. Oh yeah. How come I'm never in a conversation about Grazewell? I thought I just fucking win, that's all I did. Can we give you the ball and fourth? Oh, well. Yeah.

You're going to make free throws. Hack a shack, you ever heard of it? It's because of you. Change the game? All right, I guess there's a little truth to that. Fuck off. Good point. Yeah, but to him, shooting a free throw is like us

using a ping pong ball to shoot a free throw, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah, but to him shooting a free throw is like us using a ping pong ball to shoot a free throw I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. A lethal shooter. That'd be tough. That's like a little pop a shot. Yeah. I'm not great with those little balls. I don't know how people actually shoot them like a basketball. No backboard. Yeah. You just got to find the spot on the backboard and just try to replicate. It's impossible. It's tough. Definitely what I do. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I am off the backboard guy. I'll even underhand that thing. Oh yeah.

But there's people you'll see that are like actually shooting full jumpers. Shooting and I'm like, how are you? I don't know how you do that. You just have to be very weak. Little muscle tone stuff I got. Have you heard anything about the Pittsburgh suits? No.

I did house. When does it have to happen? Like what, when's the latest we're going to hear it? If it doesn't happen today. I're gonna hear if it doesn't happen today I'm out. It doesn't happen today. I'm out on them. You can tell him that too Go yeah, I guess chef. He is pissed off that it hasn't happened yet Join the club pal. Here we go. Yahoo Sports Charles Robinson Y'all sports still exist go Charles Robinson still exist

Absolutely Charles Robinson friend of the program the Falcons are expected to keep quarterback Kirk Cousins through Sunday's deadline and paying 10 million that he's due because there's a another 10 million dollars Guaranteed that's due by March 17th or 16th or something like that standing so he's staying I was looking at their roster just to you know, just to see cuz it piqued my interest They don't have another quarterback besides him in panic So if they were to cut him and let him go they'd be in a real situation and who perfect to you know kind of you know deal because we all know Kirk he's a great guy he's gonna help Michael Pennex if Michael Pennex is on a rookie deal they probably don't mind paying Kirk that money so the only way that you potentially do that is if Kirk forces

his way out which also doesn't seem like a guy who can do that but we'll see. Does he have the no trade clause so he can kind of pick where he goes Or no, that's my joke. Not sure but we do know Pennex loves him Pennex talked about him last year about how you like looked up To him and everything. Yeah, and I think Kirk loves Pennex. Yeah, I think he's way he talked about it So, you know, maybe Kirk gets to the point where he's like, all right, this is my career He doesn't know he's got family down there. Yeah, his wife. Yeah wife's family is from them. Yeah in He's making a ton of money doing nothing sucks It does suck that but doesn't feel that way

Yeah, he knows where he's at, but I could accept the fact to accept the role of hey, I'm a backup now That's gonna be tough Yeah, you're I agree, but that is a conversation that a lot of quarterbacks have to have you know And I only know that because Matt Hasselbeck came to be the backup for Andrew Luck And he was a starter the year before and I had a chance to chat with him about how he had to like actually like talk to his family and be like if I take this it's like me admitting Like my starting days are kind of over like now I'm just like the veteran backup and I'm not saying Kirk Cousins gonna have to do that

but that is a part of a career that people can get to if they want to or They can bow out of to your point. I forgot completely about how great he was on TV. Oh, yeah. Scott Van Pelt's Mike muted. Couldn't talk anymore on set. And Kirk just took over the show and just started like directing and started like talking and got a promo and asked a question. Then Scott gets a microphone back there back. He was great on television.

I mean, and he said sometimes, you know, my son asked about Patrick Mahomes and I tell him it's hard that we don't even play the same sport. You know, we're playing like the self deprecating humor from Kirk Cousins. He's obviously a nerd, like we all understand that. He understands that as well. He has a great TV gig. Oh yeah. Son of a fast. We learned that too during COVID.

Command and audience. Yes, we did. Great perspective too, because he came, he got drafted, you know, what, third round, third, fourth round? Came in obviously as a backup, same draft as RG3. And then he was at the point where he was one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league and now been a backup. And then he played in these offenses in KOC, coming from that McVay tree, he'll be able

to talk about these quarterbacks in these offenses for the next 10 15 20 years. So I mean Kirk Probably won't be starting this year probably but he's got a great future ahead of him. I love Kirk. Yeah, I love Kirk Cousins I really do big fan every time I talk to him. I'm like, I love this Nerd another guy from the quarterback series understands it like said very self-facing Yeah Alright, let's get the hell out here big one tomorrow huge huge because it's day one of the new league Yeah, that's right, and it's also Take a release date for big night. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how this is gonna do I think there's a chance you're gonna be all right. You know, okay

Legitimately, I don't know there's a chance. I think it'll be all right. I think it'll be okay. Legitimately, I don't know. There's a chance, because I think it's like 10,000 tickets, 11,000. I don't know the exact number, because we're blacking out some of the sections because the way it's gonna be set up, obviously for giveaways and stuff, you know. It's a fully immersive show.

I will say there's a lot happening. The giveaways in the performances We'll say are obviously the key parts of it. So setting up the arena and the seating is rather important I think it's gonna be like 11,000 10,000 and we said no ticket will be more than $100 the base price of the ticket so I got a call this morning from Yeah, they're like hey, there's so we saw in your video You said that there's no ticket will be worth more than $100 The base ticket price will be less than $100, but after the fees it will go over 100 miles an hour or $100

I'm like, I feel okay. I feel like I told the truth. Yeah, we listed Now these fees are crazy though. Oh, yeah they are. But it's different if you were, you know, if tickets were $700, you know, the fees on top of that push it well over a thousand, like a hundred, it's still manageable. It's like sales tax. $20 tickets will be available. I don't know how long those will be available.

I think there's like a couple thousand of those. And then $95 will be the most expensive ticket that will be out there. There's a seventy dollar ticket I think that has the most. It's either seventy or sixty. I forget what it is. It's one of those in there that has the most available but I'm very excited for it. It's going to be a I think it's going to be a fucking amazing show like literally every day that passes and I'm And I'm a pretty negative person, okay? I call our show terrible. I mean, I say our show stinks or whatever.

Normally, I think everything's gonna not be great, not be good enough for people's attention, you know? Hey, people are spending their attention with us, people are spending their time with us. We gotta make it good. Sorry, our show stinks. It's literally my thought. And there's mornings where I come in here

where I'm just standing in the shower, just like, what the fuck? We are gonna disrespect so many people today with what our show is about to be. I am so sorry about how bad it is. So I normally feel that way about everything. I normally think like everything's gonna be crap. We are lucky that if anybody watches anything,

and if the next day they decide to still be fans of us, we're in a good spot. That is legitimately my feeling towards things this one It feels good. I don't know it feels good. And I think it's cuz the amount of talent that are gonna be on this show It's like a It's gonna be a cool night. I think it's gonna be a big night I think it's gonna be a cool night I think it's gonna be a really cool night and obviously giving over a million bucks in the arena will be a lot of fun

Changing some lives will be a lot of fun. And the people that are gonna show up, the guests, I think people are gonna be like, how the fuck did... Billy Gardell. I do this. How the fuck did this guy put this thing together? Billy Gardell has not been reached out to yet.

You're right though. Yeah. That is a... Who's that? Debbie. Show is fluid. Excuse me? Show is fluid. Come on, D.

I'm just wanna be- Don't do that. Don't do what you said. Pittsburgh Cone. Don't do what you just said. Don't do what you just said. Sorry, I'm not from Pittsburgh. Have you ever seen Mike and Molly?

He's a national. What about Bob and Abishola? Guy invented Ozempic. Well. Okay, I know Ozempic. You know, the commercial then. He was okay. I know it's empty. You know, it's a commercial then he was fucking doing that Drill Sucking down a dog that was I mean Billy hot dog

Excuse me No, that's Billy Gardell The one oh, okay. Yeah, some DK Harbor the one I grew up with left The one that is now right that is Billy Gordell Right there another macho man. Yeah, it looks like Ellen. I have not reached out to Billy Gordell Really yeah when I had my glasses on I had a thing going on with my eyes So I put the glasses on you know to cover it up cuz I didn't know what was going on that just disappeared I'm not gonna get that checked. I'm just going to keep it moving.

Yeah, good morning. Don't Google it. Damn, I'm not. I have no idea. I'm just like, all right, something's happened with my eye. I don't like it. Okay, I'm going to put these glasses on

to try to hide it a little bit. Okay, tomorrow, it's the same thing. We're doing the same goddamn thing. Yeah. And I woke up the next day, didn't have them, like, sweet, no more glasses. Good to go. What happened?

Didn't even, I asked that like one time. I was like, it feels like that was something though. And it's like, don't, don't, you don't have them like sweet no more glass gonna go what happened didn't even I asked that like one time I was like it feels like that was something though and it's like don't you know yeah you gotta get your eyeball removed so shouts of my eye I don't know what good work way to figure it out dude I I think it is actually my dominant eye too left eye dominant right hand guy so you know I as a growing up shooter right you know rifle right right spot with two eyes then lock in with one eye and then it turns out that you do this game or the thumb game on which eyes mom left eye dominant this entire time, so I should have been fucking yeah or

Would you rather be born blind or turn blind when you were 30 born born blind oh Yeah, I guess I wonder how they if someone's born blind. How do they see things in there? Like how do they picture the world audio? Yeah, I know they are like in their brain time they do they picture the world? Audio. Yeah, I know they are, but like in their brain, do they have visions of something? Feel and audio, I think. You don't have color, you don't have depth perception. Yeah, how do they say it? A goal post, and you've never seen a goal post.

How do they envision that? Did I tell you guys about my trip to Starbeam the other day? Did I tell you about this? On the show? You did. You glued your head to the table? Nice. Good calls.

The Bucks? At Shultz's place? Or where? No, I didn't protest. The protest. No, I didn't protest. Oh no, maybe it wasn't on the show. I went in there and got an Americana.

Okay, we're doing some furniture shopping next door. And boy, I found out me not in there much better. You know, I'm kind of bored. Sam was bowed in though, you know, every piece, the whole thing, having a conversation. I love it. She's great at it. I'm very appreciative of what she's done for our homes,

my house, everything. You know, she's great at it. But for me, I get bored pretty quickly. I'm either laying on a couch or I'm going and looking at something we're never gonna buy. That's what I look. Starbucks next door. So I was like, all door so I'm gonna go get a Starbucks. I'm gonna go get a Starbucks So I go into Starbucks and the lady that's working in Starbucks. She has this thing drilled into her head

with like an air pod on the end of it and it's on her left side and she's cash register is to I'm this way. So she's like here. So I see it, you know, and she was incredibly polite, kind, nice, jovial, and I just can't help myself. I'm like, excuse me, I obviously see what's behind your ear there. What is that? So she lost hearing in her left ear because of a virus like 15 or 20 years ago

or something like that. And they had this device that they drilled into like a bone. Cochlear implant. A cochlear implant, yeah. Boom, and then she had this thing on it and I was like, how's it work? She's like, good, yeah, just sends it over.

I'm like, genius. Isn't technology, isn't technology just like amazing? I told her and she's like, yeah, I love it. I have to change it out every two years, you know, there's like an update on it or whatever. And once you get past just like looking at something sticking out of somebody's, it's small, but it's definitely sticking out of a head.

Like at my life obviously, and I can hear now on this side of my face, in my head and yada yada. And I said, technology is the greatest. She said, the best thing that I saw, guy came in here with a seeing cane, like a cane, and he got his phone out and she was like, do you want me to tell you any stuff that we have, like two cookies or whatever? And no no I'm good he had a

phone that was directly attached to I don't know something he had like a Bluetooth maybe implant or something and he was just reading everything that was in front of him so like it was like chocolate chip cookie there's three of them there's a blueberry muffin there's two of them so he was like literally getting a play-by-play from his phone into his ear about what was happening in front of him and it's like could you imagine not having that like if you're a blind person not having that it's like so they've I think technology has tried its best what was the thing Elon was creating? Neuralink. Neuralink. Yeah he's trying to fix that. Yeah that's

that's wild. It'll get there. I hope so I hope we get to a point where technology is able to take care of that because your question there she lost hearing 15 years ago 20 years ago in that year but I could imagine just losing it completely you know at a certain age or losing vision at certain age I guess you have memories which is good but then are you automatically reminded you can't see them anymore. Probably. You know every single time. So that's a tough that's a tough thing. I'm happy.

Technology's taking care of that. But that thing in that lady's head was really cool. Like, you know, cause you can hear, that's why the headphones that don't go in the ear, that just kind of sit on your jaw bone, they kind of rattle through your bones and you can kind of hear it. It's like, it's impressive shit,

what we're able to accomplish. But that lady had to get that drilled in her Worth it. It sounds had hurt so bad. Yeah, I think so She says it shoots over to the other she can hear it in there Whatever the case. I'm not tough enough to get that thing drilled in her. I Hope I don't lose my vision. I Got LASIK And there's some things where I'm doing this now and I'm like all I have to get lazy again And I'm not gonna do it

They fucking tape your eyes open. It's easy. It's a lot easier now, isn't it? They fucking tape your eyes open tape your eyes open then a laser comes in. Have you done it? No, but I watched my wife get it done like 15 years ago. That's when I got it done How long does it last typically? What do you mean the like 20 30 years? I thought yeah 15 20 30 whatever this yeah, but I got it done mid Offseason I got it done, but they tape your fucking eye open and a laser comes in you don't see anything You lose complete vision. He's black. That's why I'll never do it and they're not just scares the shit out of me It's really scary They do one at a time

So then they're like let us know whenever you see the blinking light again, and then you don't see it. And they're like, let us know when you see the blinking light. And after the fourth time they ask you, you're like, am I supposed to, is this over or whatever? And then all of a sudden you see the, and it's like, oh, yeah, I could see it.

They're like, okay, good. And then you do the cleanup and then that whole thing. And then they do the next eye. They're like, all right, we're gonna do the other eye. It's like, let us know whenever you see the's like well Let us know whenever you see the blinking light Let us know My blind and what I read and then the light comes back is like thank God next morning though 2010 the whole world mmm definitely worth it

Definitely worth it. I mean you could go blind I guess but definitely worth it would you just get prescription glasses though I had to wear prescription glasses though? I had to wear prescription glasses because I had contacts in for like 10 years straight, never took them out. Cause you already wear the glasses sometimes, like it- Those are blue light glasses to protect my eyeball. I know, but that's what I'm saying.

So like that whole thing, obviously doesn't bother you. But when you wear blue light glasses, you know, like here is good, but all the way out here- Yeah, yeah, bad. The bad, like you, if these are actual prescription glasses, you can't see shit like out here is where it sucks. Right.

You know? So like I had bad eyes, bad, bad, bad eyes. I had contacts in though. I never took out. It's amazing what the world looks like whenever you can actually see for sure. It is pretty crazy what the world looks like Foxy and LASIK was able to do that for me. Yeah. Foxxy needs it. Yeah, I've looked into it.

I didn't know that I didn't have to miss a day of work to get this done. I could do it Friday after the show and then be good to go. So I'm actually gonna do this. Yeah, and getting it done, the latest you possibly can on a day is the right play. Yeah, and every single person I've talked to that has gotten it done

has said it's the greatest thing they've done in their life. Next morning, you're seeing 2010. Yeah. Literally the next morning. Because if you get the last one, you're not allowed to drive home or whatever. You get the last one done, you just take an ambient immediately afterwards

and you just sleep. You wake up at like fucking 3 a.m. or whatever. Cause your sleep schedule is kind of fucked. But whenever you wake up, you have to wear glasses. I think the next day they got those wraparound boys that you gotta wear the solar eclipse. Virtual reality glasses, yeah. Yeah, those ones ones you gotta wear but like you can just see everything So I think the way I got it. I think I got a 430 or five o'clock

Appointment had it done took an ambient woke up like 3 a.m. And I was like Holy fuck. It's a pretty nice house. I'm living in I went into the indoor facility like two days later for the Colts and I'm like wow I haven't been able to see the roof. This is nice! Yeah, because all the lights you know yeah exactly because all the lights are blurry so they just cover up you know because whenever lights pop up we've got bad eyes it's just a big fight so like the roof of the the Colts facility is the first time I saw it I'm like this pretty nice fucking place or whatever they're like yeah we didn saw it, I'm like, this is a pretty nice fucking place or whatever. They're like, yeah, we didn't change it.

I'm like, yeah, I know, but I'm, this is my first time seeing it. Well, what have you been playing with? I'm like, yeah, not good. I've been pretty blind. Someone told me the procedure took three minutes total and you were done and out. Yeah, but it feels like an hour.

Whenever there's no vision in your eye, cause they go one eye at a time. So when you can't see anything in your right eye, it that's sketchy that's sketchy for that's crazy you your whole job is yeah and holding or yeah and so what happened was i lost my right contact mid-game didn't have any backup contacts because i've been wearing these contacts for fucking 10 years five years or whatever so i was i literally had no and this is yeah and I got Adam Venetary here so it's like listen I can fuck up for me here but this guy is a fucking other eye buddy put it down bingo that's it well that's kind of

what I did I kind of did a now that I know that my left eye dominant I did do like a one-eye thing in the snap came out for a punt and it was a I'm like I need to get these eyes fixed and then I had to go with more contacts I didn't have more contacts but I would recommend, I'm like, I need to get these eyes fixed. And then I had to go with more context. I didn't even have more context, but I would recommend it. I would recommend it. I'm gonna get it done for sure. Hopefully soon.

It's sketchy though, I know this one. Yeah, I don't know. Taping her eye open is a wild scene. When did they first start doing LASIK? Like who was volunteering to be like the test dummies? So when they- Alan Keller. Rats.

Tell me if you got it. Alan Keller would have got it, hopefully. I don't know how that works. That's how she got blind would have got it, hopefully. I don't know how that works. That's how she got blind. But I don't know. I don't think that's true. I don't know how Helen learned it, you know? I don't know how Helen Keller learned.

There's any of that real? There's some Helen Keller conspiracy theories. I don't believe in them, but there are some. 1989 was the first of her late sick. Adam Schefter has reported it is now official that the Jets are releasing Aaron Rodgers. What? Okay, big news. The Jets will take on 49 million in dead cap money on releasing Rodgers.

He's being designated as a post-June 1 cup, meaning they'll carry his 21 million dollar cap hip until June 1st when it drops to 14 million saving 7 million, but they then will absorb a 35 million dollar dead... okay. Saving seven million, but they then will absorb a 35 million dollar dick. Okay Lot of mumbo-jumbo a lot of mumbo-jumbo, but yes, the Jets are officially releasing Aaron Rodgers He will be a free agent and now we sit and wait I saw Schefter was on a podcast and he say he's tired away to very Rogers Bruce sent that into the group chat. I thought it was actual breaking news because Aaron's picture popped up with Schefter's name, but Bruce I appreciate you buddy. Thank you for keeping us updated up back there that's on me could be a giant yeah could be maybe if he wants to but why would he good point doesn't want to move

everybody hates moving everybody hates moving god we're hated by 20 mil where he could wake up tomorrow and see the oceans blue and be like, giants. Scott, you see it? That's not how it works. You keep saying stuff like that. You keep doing shit like that. He's going. You're out. You're going to end up with fucking Mason Rudolph as your quarterback.

Yeah. If that's how time as a flat circle works, then that's where we'll be. Okay. Okay. Don't be, you're listening to Coach Diggs too much. No, no. You need to stop reading Coach Diggs. I refuse to talk to him about any of it.

You need to stop reading Coach Diggs's text. He says he's not reading. I refuse to talk to him about any of it. You need to stop reading. Coach Diggs is text. He says not watch his dealers. They bring an air rod. He's our old guys. I heard we didn't. I mean, I know it probably won't happen, but if coach Diggs came on the show one time, I'd be very happy. We can definitely make that happen. And certainly if we're giving them front row coaching gear, though, he needs to be coaching gear, though Yeah. Duh. We know. It's the only gear he has. Yeah, that's a two thing. We play bocce with him.

We should go do a show live from his next bocce match. When do you guys take on the pepperones? When do you guys take on the pepperones? As long as Tim's coming on the show too, I think. Let's do it. No, no, no. Tim is just holding down a four here. I don't think he'll be at the pepperones's match either. So I'll be a whole different animal

That's live at a bocce match ladies gentlemen tonight's a big one Better than tire wrestling we get news Speaking of we have pitched a couple of specials to be on ESPN to I hope that happens leave we are Dabbling into the creating new content world, you know So we would like a couple of specials to be allowed on ESPN too okay and we'll see how those are received yeah I'm excited I'm excited for us to explore the space as well of counter-programming I'm excited for us to kind of explore that entire thing I'm very very pumped up about that but we will we certainly will all right take

it tomorrow noon okay noon I am scared that because the price of these things We certainly will. All right, ticket's tomorrow, noon, okay? Noon. I am scared that because of the price of these things, only gonna be able to buy four at max. Only gonna be able to buy four at max. Smart. It's Wednesday, April 9th is the show, so I know that's tough for some people. I saw some messages from people saying,

I'll work on Thursday. I thought you were for the workin', man. All right. All right. I work on Thursday too, bub. Okay, how about, uh, but with that being said, the reason why it's Wednesday is so that we can add on to the acts kind of tour. Cause everybody kind of works Thursday through Saturday. And if you want to think about the people that are doing those types of gigs, those are the

people that'll be there on a Wednesday night. So any of those other days would have been tough to kind of get in there, especially in the spring, whenever a lot of people are on the move. So I apologize for being on Wednesday night, but also has to be on a Wednesday night. And it'll be fun. It's gonna be a good night. Hell yeah. It's gonna be a good show.

People are gonna say, why didn't we, why hasn't this show happened before? I think. It's gonna go great. All right, be a friend, tell a friend something nice and it might change your life. We're gonna sing together. Team on me, team on three. Hey, D-Buch, tell a friend something nice. You might change your life. We're gonna sing together. Team on me, team on three.

Hey, D-Bush, great work this week. Hey, you too, bro. Another boy, D-Bush. One, two, three. Three. Goodbye.