The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1310 - The Madness Begins, LA Rams GM Les Snead, Seth Greenberg, Jeff Passan, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about March Madness beginning tonight and who they like as well as all the drama surrounding West Virginia Head Coach Darian DeVries and both Iowa and Indiana’s interest in him and how that may play out, as well as all the other stories happening around the NFL world, and MLB officially starting their season over in Tokyo with the Dodgers and Cubs. Joining the progrum is Super Bowl Champion, and current GM of the LA Rams, Les Snead to chat about constructing the team the way they have, how they got Matthew Stafford to stay in LA, his thoughts on this year’s NFL Draft, retooling the offensive line, his relationship with Sean McVay, and much more. Next, former Head Coach of the Virginia Tech Hokies and current ESPN college basketball analyst, Seth Greenberg joins the show to discuss the tournament, which teams he like, which teams he think got a terrible draw, some of the more intriguing first round matchups, some of the coaching openings, and the drama surrounding North Carolina getting into the tournament. Later, ESPN Senior MLB insider, Jeff “The Jett” Passan joins the show to chat about the importance of the MLB opening the season in Japan, the surge of Japanese players coming to play over here, Paul Skenes and how impressive of a person he is, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunder down on this big time Tuesday March 18th 2025 this program starts now Madness always happening tonight to play in games to get into the dance Obviously, it's been a hot topic to discuss around the sports world on who made the tournament, who didn't make the tournament. Well, we'll move past that tonight to see who earns their spot in the tournament starting at 640 Eastern Time on TruTV. Now this is the time of year where we're finding where the hell channels are. Remember this is a big deal. We're scrolling, we're scrolling, we're scrolling, we're finding. Oh, this used to be in Practical Jokers. I

remember taking trips down here before. Okay, great to be back here. And you also obviously have TNT, TBS, and I think that is... CBS. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, and CBS in there. But nonetheless, we're gonna be doing a lot of true TVing over the next few days. So tonight is a good time to find where the fuck that is.

That's right. Okay, so let's get on board with that. Let's get excited as St. Francis and Alabama State kick everything off. Alabama State figured by three and a half, they got a good team. I've been watching film on this Alabama State team. I'll tell you what, the way they moved the ball.

And then they, they'll do one of these. And then they even got a guy who koozie. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, easy, easy. And then you'll see somebody tonight You'll see somebody tonight do one of these boom They got one of the best one of these Poems right and all of college ball and then bang pal and then I think my rattle hum for some reason they can't find just The net they're working around the rim a lot, but the ball does fall

That's why they're favored by three and a half and then North Carolina, huh? Bubba Cunningham school if you do recall West Virginia governor's not happy. No, no, he's not just would like to let everybody know he's not happy But we don't need to talk about that at this exact moment North Carolina Tar Heels favored by four and a half taking on San Diego State now this team out of San Diego They do smack the way table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. That's what you saw when you're watching film in the San Diego they do smack the way they do at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt that's what you saw when you're watching film in the San Diego State squad yeah look they're the underdog and so I said you know of

course we're betting on all the underdogs and this is all I saw I saw holy shit they go this way they go this way and they're and they're never like this they never stay still and their hands are never like this always chopping. It's a lot of this, it's a lot of that. You know, a lot of Tim Robinson dancing in the living room. You know, he's always moving and so is this team. And it's also one of those teams, you know, the 11 seeds we all know, sometimes they go on a run.

We saw UCLA. Oh, madness! That would be madness. You remember UCLA? They started as a playing game. Kid with the sweet hair. Bingo, huge fro and they made it all the way to the final four. And I believe one of those players as well is currently a superstar for the Miami Heat.

So look, the 11 seed games, you know, it's just a playing game. It's just a playing game. They're going to lose. Look out for these 11 seed. Sometimes they go on those runs. St. Francis versus Alabama State at 640 on TruTV. Months again, that's all that's good for all of us to get in there. UNC versus San Diego State, 910 on TruTV.

Blake Tip. We're gonna stay up for that one because we're all mad about UNC getting in the tournament. Nobody's more mad than the governor of West Virginia. Nope. Okay, now granted, is he listening to his constituents and reacting accordingly? I'd say so.

Is this the fastest you've ever seen a governor put something together? That's out. I think so. Yeah. Is it also the best podium you've ever seen for a speech from a sitting governor to the NCAA? I think so.

Check, check, check. Will it get anything done? Certainly not, but maybe changes what it looks like in the future. Here's a couple of tidbits from Governor Morrissey's press conference about the National Corrupt Athletic Association as it says right on his podium. A hundred and eleven out of the hundred and eleven bracketologist projected WVU to make the tournament. And for good reason.

The selection committee for years has talked about the importance of quad win wins. Quad one wins. Now for those who don't know much about a quad one win, this is when you defeat a team ranked first through 75th. Obviously it depends upon whether you're home, neutral site or away. Of course, but... Well, West Virginia had six Quad One wins. That's a lot.

And that was combined with an undefeated record against Quad Three and Quad Four opponents. Three wins against top ten teams and the 24th toughest schedule in America. West Virginia deserved to be in the NCAA tournament. This was a miscarriage of justice and robbery at the highest level. Now who was the last team to get into the tournament? I had the Mountaineers. That would be the University of North Carolina. Now let's see how their resume stacks up. Oh, let's look at it go. The Tar Heels went 1-12 in Quad 1 games and even had a Quad 3 loss. Really? And we keep hearing about the importance of these Quad 1 wins, but UNC couldn't even get

more than one. They also had the 25th toughest schedule in America right behind WVU. Really? So Governor Morrissey saying you tell me. He also had a quote in there about North Carolina having representation in the room in Bubba Cunningham and the way this kind of worked out and he said I just I would like to talk about the robbery at the largest or highest level and I think what is happening here and I reach out to some people that you know have close ties to West Virginia still still live in West Virginia still a family

in West Virginia I think they all go you know don't love that it's us but had to be done and it feels like we're the right team in the right time to do it now is there you know politicking happening whenever there's any type of selecting taking place amongst humans? Yes. I mean that is just a matter of fact. You go back to all the BCS Bowl games, how problematic it was. You go to the 14 playoff. You go to just the national championship. You go to now the 12 team playoff. You go to this tournament every single year, the bubble teams. Anytime there's humans making decisions there's always going to be an opportunity for relationships or maybe agendas or feelings about something or maybe a narrative that you don't

even know is coming from person's experiences. That takes place in discussion. That's why like jury of your peers is such an important thing because you got a lot of people sitting around coming to a decision. It's like everybody has a different angle, what's the angle? And the fact that North Carolina's guy is leading the entire committee, he's the chair of this election committee, and then his team, and then now there's $104,000 or $70,000, whatever the bonus actually is, going into his pocket.

It's like you're setting yourself up for somebody to say, what the fuck's going on here? Is the right things the main focus for this particular this particular group are the right things the main focus for this particular group and I'll be excited to see what comes of it. I obviously can't turn around for tonight. Yeah, North Carolina's Maybe though you never know. I mean governor Morrissey seemed to be pretty quick pretty direct How'd they get that thing created so fast? That was high quality. That wasn't just like paper taped on I was all buddy over shoulder. Yeah, right here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, cause if you can't hear what he's saying, you can certainly see what he's about. You know, if you're just watching us on the TV as you're walking by, National Corrupt Athletic Association. Okay, okay, okay. I like what's going on here.

And then somebody probably says, yeah, that's the governor of West Virginia. The governor is standing in front of this. And who's that other guy? Well, that guy's on his side. Okay, we don't know who that guy is. He's got a good suit on. Good ties to both of them in uniform.

Looks like they dress the same. They are ready to do battle. And will this make the selection committees more transparent? Will this let us in the room when the conversations are taking place? So at least there's a little bit of accountability for whenever people are pitching whatever it is, maybe. But I don't know what the right answer is. And I would assume since the beginning of time

when humans have got together to make a decision about things and left people out, there's always been fuckery. I assume there always has been because that's just how humans operate. But if it can get a little bit better from this, I think more power to old governor Morrissey. And he is no stranger to suing the NCAA.

He did this as the attorney General a few years back. We had him on the program. It was about the transfer rule, now with the modern NIL. Some labor law was being broke because if a guy can make a million dollars over here and he can only make 300 grand here, you not letting him go there to do that infringes on his employment and wage opportunity

and yada, yada, yada. So he sued the NCAA, actually got a ruling, changed the way the NCAA is currently operating. Also is now a part of trying to figure out how we get the NCAA to operate in 2025. So this dude knows his way around a courtroom and a lawsuit against the NCAA. And I think that's probably why he's in his bag, you know,

cause this is his first term as governor for West Virginia. So he needs to put a score, you know, he needs to put a double up somewhere yeah somewhere and uh for the people of West Virginia going like yeah I yeah we should be the ones what's what's the worst thing that's going to happen the NCAA is going to hold us against us well what are they going to do make us the biggest snub in the history of the march of madness term oh that is that just happened and we lost our fucking coach because of it probably. So West Virginia interesting spot But potentially a pivotal moment here when it comes to selection committees for the NCAA going forward football

Basketball, I don't know if any of the other tournaments have selection committees I assume that they're taking place in other places, but maybe there's a little bit of a change here But nonetheless the madness has begun potentially in a courtroom with the governor and the National Corrupt Athletic Association and tonight the madness begins on the court and this is still a wonderful time of year even though I'm a West Virginia fan pulling for West Virginia it's like all right now what's my team in the tournament let's live for the next couple weeks alongside of them and hopefully you go on a run and hopefully we learn some great stories from this particular March

Madness which is normally the case. Well and that's why we lost our wagon to St. John's because they will be going on a run all the way to the Final Four. But that was kind of the difference with the NCAA and the college football playoff. Like, at least there was a face of that committee and kind of came out and explained why, you know, certain teams got in certain teams didn't, because we dealt with that for how long during the football season about, you know, South Carolina and Ole Miss and those teams that were right on the end. Bayama. Yeah Bayama and that lasted a little while but

at least because there was a face of it at the end of it and I forget his name but he did an interview with Reese on the show immediately after the college football playoff was announced like at least. Lieutenant General. Yeah yeah bingo butingo. But there wasn't, there isn't that for bat basketball. It's just kind of the only thing we heard about the committee was that one of the guys in it was the AD. No, the guy in charge of it. The guy in charge of it. Yeah, sorry. It was the AD of North Carolina. So there's this other guy, Keith, that was next to him. Reese Davis interviewed, I think his name was Keith or Kevin. I do apologize. Bubba's name is being the one being say, Hey, this guy leads the entire thing.

There was somebody else with Bubba doing this interview, but they were the ones that were saying like, Bubba wasn't in the room when UNC was discussed. They defending him only. Yeah, it's like, okay, all right. Wasn't in the room that day. All right, hey, what Bubba back in? But we have a couple of questions.

Do you think you're too, well, he can't, because I can't be a part of that discussion. It's like, that's a weird thing. But in football, there's people that have allegiance. I think Michigan's AD. Yeah, word manual was nasty there. Yeah, people are like, the ADs can't be in there. It's like, okay, well, who are we putting in there?

Who are we putting in there? Media, well, we can't put media in there, right? Because media has bias as well. Can't put coaches, like, who can we put in the committees? I think that is the next question about like, I don't know if there's ever gonna be a point where there won't be conspiracy fodder. No.

I don't know if there ever will be because like, once again, humans are gonna act in their own self-interest whenever they are speaking and sometimes, not all humans, right? I understand, I believe Mother Teresa, she did not act in her self-interest at all. Sure, or Dalai Lama. Of course the Buddha The Buddha from what I've heard to Buddha no self-interest

But you would think in the selection committees if you want to have that type of power You probably have some sort of moxie. You probably have some sort of got there somehow ego pride You probably have some sort of re like it's gonna be tough to eliminate all conspiracy fodder Even though this one is the biggest of all time. So, hopefully this will pivot and change and make it a little better. Well, and that's what, like, a lot of people were saying, like, hey, maybe you get, like, a retired athletic director,

but that's the thing with college athletics, is like, the fan bases are rabid. So, like, it's not like, you know, if you're an NFL fan and you're a fan of a team, you could maybe be, like, a little, you know, kind of more even keel. Like, these people are always, go to bat for the schools that they went to or that they're a fan of.

And you can't just what makes college sports. Exactly. It's what makes it great. It's why everyone loves it. And you can't really have just like, like these people also need to know basketball because if they're going to try it out, all this, like quad one, quad two, quad three, quad four, that's going to be part of the selection process. You can't just have some slapdick there who's just like, you know what?

North Carolina is always good, we should put them in. The person actually has to watch college basketball, has to know what's going on. But you're right, there's never gonna be a time where there's not an instance like this cuz it's probably gonna happen next year. There's gonna be- Every year. Exactly, there's gonna be an AD of a school and maybe they'll win their conference championship so it won't be a big deal, but there's also a chance that, you know, the AD, their team's

going to be on the bubble and they're going to recuse themselves from the conversation again and then come right back in and be like, so we get in or what? Yeah, so what you got to say? Remember, I can get you off this. Yeah. No, no, I wouldn't do that. But I could. But I could.

Two votes. You know what I mean? I mean, it's just like, I don't do that obviously. But I could. But I could. Two votes. You know what I mean? I mean, it's just like, I don't know how they fix it. Once we got baptized into the college football world over the last few years of college game day, it's like, whenever we started trying to figure it out and it's like, I don't know if this one. Like, obviously fans of teams are thinking their team's always either going to get screwed, right? Like that is what fans are thinking. But whenever we're in the middle

of it and we're hearing like all every angle of everything, it's like, I don't know how they ever get the right answer. Everybody thinks it's just TV. It's like, if the TV people wanted everything. Now granted, UNC would certainly be one of the schools because of the uniform. But it's like whenever it came to the football, it's like there's like six different, there's like, you know, like there's a lot of different potential avenues they could go. Everything can be a story, which is why sports are great. And it's also why college ball is fantastic.

But I don't know how they fix any of it. We just need to teach AI ball. That's the only way to do it. See, I've seen people say Las Vegas should be doing all of it for both sports. Okay, so if the books pick the favorites and who they think would win, that's not a bad idea. But then But then you're you know you don't think those bookies have a favorite You don't think the oddsmakers have favorites as well if they start realizing that they're the fuck it like okay

We get a lot of action on this team Just fucking put them right up there like then there's an angle for the oddsmakers on why they're doing it There will never be no you know and if it's AI well who coded it, you know, cuz that was start seeing Stanford There's just a never-ending Supply of things so that's why you just got to hope you get the right group in there Yeah Legitimately you just got to hope that you get a right group of people in there There just needs to be a commissioner for every sport in college that has you know this many eyes on it

Like that was kind of the take away from the college football was like they need a commissioner. And how many times do we tell Saban like, Hey, you need to be the commissioner of college football because without just having that one supreme leader, like we talk about in, you know, the NFL on in every organization, there's a supreme leader of that team. And you kind of need that when it comes to college sports, because at least then you are pointing at one person like the Gadell Scripted thing people buy into that but we know

Obviously that is just the amount of humans that would have to be in on that exactly in the scapegoat Like that is such an easy thing to be like all my team got screwed This is scripted like at least here or not at least rather like in this situation. It's more so like, okay Well, this guy This is a very valid Hey, the reason UNC got in is because of this AD like at least with a commissioner It's more so like oh this guy sucks hate this guy But it's not as if he's biased to one team or not with an AD of a school Being the leader of the committee deciding it's like okay this legitimately could be

Collusion at the highest order screwing over teams like West Virginia and Indiana and Ohio State, you know? Yeah, do they take notes of everything said in there? Like, what's that called in those notes? Stenographer. Yeah, stenographer's the type of board. Taking the minutes. The minutes, there it is.

Do they have the minutes of these things? Because that would be like, you know, in his, Governor Morris would go, I'm just asking for discovery of the minutes. I would like to see who was where, when, and who said what, okay, and why. I'd like to also know why they did. And then if, you know, we all get a chance

to kind of see in the room where it happened, I think that'll be good for the future. Nonetheless, let's move along. Madness begins tonight. 640, True TV, find True TV. It's gonna be a wonderful tournament. They're saying this is the most talented college basketball tournament that there's ever been. Now are they saying that just because the SEC has so many teams in there?

Or are they saying that potentially because the SEC has gotten very, very good. So more good teams are happening. More good coaching, more good recruiting, more good players on different teams. Just like in football, you know, you think about the Vanderbilt story. Vandy added Diego Pavia and their entire Culture just shifted and changed so they got in a basketball that can certainly happen in an IL you bring one great player Maybe you get two great players that you're able to afford you can completely change everything So they're saying this tournament is gonna be magical. We cannot wait to watch the madness

We'd like to send our congratulations to BG Brandon Graham Graham of the Philadelphia Eagles. He has announced his retirement. There was a post earlier today that we saw that was kind of alluding to maybe he was done playing football for a living and we'd like to say to Brandon Graham on the multiple Super Bowls and obviously the toughness of bouncing back this particular Super Bowl so he knew, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, because him coming back was a wild That was a wild part of the story. Yeah, that's like a is Brandon Graham actually gonna that sounds like an injury That's not yep. Yep next week. We'll get it. They open his window then bang. He's back for the Super Bowl I bet you Brandon Graham probably knew that this was potentially gonna be his last game. What a great way to go out on top Congratulations to him for that and also showcasing a toughness and a grittiness that nobody will ever be able to question. I think Philadelphia now

loses Jason Kelsey last year. Then they lose Brandon Graham Cox as well. I mean, it's like the next generation of Philadelphia Eagles is in a very good spot, obviously, but it's not easy to pass the torch. Brandon Graham obviously moving along. Hell of a career, Bob. Hell of a career over there. He also retore his tr his tricep in that circle. I don't think it was ever healed. I think there was a scan saying that it was a torn tricep coming after that game. No matter what. Which is dog. You know that's just like who's due for the Panthers? Linebacker? Thomas Davis had like 13 in his forearm. Looks like a football. I watched Dwight Freeney have a broken ankle and like literally dudes

were showing up in geese, body experts, to work on his ankle. I think it was 20 hours a day they were getting treatment on his ankle. He ends up with a sack in the Super Bowl just to win a Super like the things people do just like yeah, TOO. with his yeah he's like like yeah that's awesome just an incredible way to go out congrats to him not a lot of guys win the Super Bowl in Bats no you know that is a as Ray obviously Jerome Bettis did in his hometown with the Pittsburgh Steelers Brandon Graham did I mean there's Payton I'm sure there's a Payton I'm sure there's others that have done it but that's like the dream scenario, I think,

that everybody's kind of looking for. Yeah, kind of a crazy year for Brandon Graham too, because remember during the year when he kind of broke the news about A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurd not being friends? Oh yeah, accidentally. Yeah, accidentally just mentioning that in a radio interview, and then for them to still

kind of hang on and go in the Super Bowl really is a storybook. Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. Obviously they have invested mightily in the trio on offense. That is Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and T Higgins. The graphics and the post are coming in abundance. Hell yeah. Cincinnati Bengals already putting out a post, boys.

Obviously this trio right here is going to lead Cincinnati Bengals already putting out a post to the boys. Obviously this trio right here is gonna lead Cincinnati Bengals into the next era and maybe back into the relevancy of the Super Bowl conversation. Obviously an immense amount of talent can win any game on the offensive side, can beat any defense for sure. What would they do with the rest of the roster to get back to the top? Would love to see these three win a Super Bowl. That post was certainly something. Yeah, yeah.

When we came across everybody's feet. What was that? A lot of people were wondering what's going on here, but I think what they were doing is just kind of, they were around something, you know, and they were kind of just all looking in there. You know, but the Bengals understand what they have and I love the move of paying both these wide receivers. Now, they're gonna have to hit, but I think Duke Tobin has the ability to be able to do so. Them saying, we want to be able to have our guys and be able to move the ball is a full strategy decision knowing that you're gonna have to hit on everything else. And if they can, if they can revamp on that defensive side, they'll be able to score against anybody. It's like, why not the Bengals? Why not this move? A lot is gonna be questioned obviously

about this much of the salary cap towards the offensive finesse football, as opposed to running the ball, which the Eagles just did. And they win obviously a Superbowl alongside doing it. But the Cincinnati Bengals, if they have the best offense on the field, on any field, they feel like they can win a game. And it's like, why not?

I'm excited to watch them go and do it. And you wonder how much of this has, like Joe burrow was very very loud publicly saying like hey I want my guys here like I want us to get deals done and with everything that happened with Carson Palmer them kind of like You know him basically get into a point where he was like hey I'll retire before I play for this franchise again like so you can keep me here get rid of me or whatever But I'm never gonna be a bangle again You obviously got to do whatever you can to keep Joe burrow happy and make sure that he's gonna be around for as long As he will be I'd counter that what the what is Joe burrow supposed to say true

Yeah, like Joe burrows doing interviews So I guess he needs to know that he's gonna be asked this But it's like Joe burrows always gonna go to bat for his guys because Joe burrows an Ohio guy He's a quarterback like when Joe Flacco was asked if he thinks he was elite It's like what the hell is Joe Flacco supposed to say? I think I'm average, you know with his little accent that he has obviously he's gonna say he's elite So when he's asked about T Higgins and Jamar chase, it's like I think he's obligated to say good things But I don't think he's obligated to say need to have them back like you were mentioning

He has gone out and said like, we need both these guys back. Now he can obviously message it differently if he just wanted to give like the politically correct answer and put over his guy. I assume he was even surprised that they got the deals. Probably. I assume Joey Burrows, I did not think that this was possible. I don't think many people did think it was possible to get both of the deals done, especially over a hundred million for both of them. Yeah, I didn't didn't think it was possible. get both of the deals done, especially over 100 million for both of them. Yeah. I didn't think it was possible.

Didn't think it made sense, but it goes back kind of to like the Tennessee. You don't know. No, no, I don't. I don't. But it goes back to the Tennessee game. Like you remember that scene on the sideline is Zach Taylor and Joe burrow and they're about to win the game. You know, they're, they're up by multiple scores, but you know, Joe burrow is basically

talking about like, this is embarrassing, you know, Joe Burrow is basically talking about like, this is embarrassing, you know, who knows what he was talking about. But I feel like we just kind of saw what the Bengals look like with, you know, without the defense, because that was the big thing when they went to the Superbowl was how good Jesse Bates and I think that was the first year they had Trey Hendrickson. So I think that's more so why it is, you know, head scratching. But hey, it's going to be electric football We Tom Tolesco has been on here before talking about the Chargers like hey the brand of football that we want is high-flying

You know scoring a lot of points Mike Williams. They're talking about the state Yeah, a few years ago when when he was on here talking about, you know their brand and that's the Bengals brand Like it's gonna be incredibly entertaining watching them every single week. Yeah. And it's, you know, there's going to be some, there's going to be some backdoor covers coming against the Bangles. But hey, maybe they go and win. Joey Burrows a winner. Jamar Chase a winner.

Higgins is a winner. Feels like the Bangles have won before. Tough, AFC North. But why not go and get it? Tough. And everyone's comparing them. They're saying like, oh, they're building themselves like the Colts when they had Peyton and Marv and Reggie But I was like I that didn't I felt like the defenses were a lot better

So I looked it up the year that you guys went to the Super Bowl The defense was ranked eighth the year before that was seventh the year before that it was first There's a second in there now the year they did win the Super Bowl was 23rd So there was like the outlier in there, but those Colts defenses were good. Like those were not like 23rd so there was like the outlier in there but those Colts defenses were good like those were not like yeah absolutely but the way the Colts defense was built and they have a situation in Cincinnati right now is we're gonna get the lead and then we're gonna get the quarterback you know but currently Trey Hendrickson is potentially getting traded or not so getting to the quarterback becomes very vital especially if your offense can move because they're gonna have to keep up now granted there's

gonna be teams that are just gonna continue to run. I mean the Philadelphia Eagles down two scores they're still handing that ball off, but the old adage is if you get a lead the other team's gonna feel like they're gonna have to catch up so you're gonna be throwing the ball a little bit more. You take them out of control controlling the game and the game clock. So I think Bill Pullian's idea was let's get a good offense, let's get the lead, and then we'll have Dwight Trini, Robert Mathis get, and then they had Bob Sanders Roman back there for a while, had smart players everywhere. They also did it in a dome. Yeah, little different animal.

Also invested heavily in the offensive line. Yeah, had the boys there for a while. What a crew. That was a great group. I don't think they get talked about much, but they had like the best offense there for a while, like 10 years straight. They don't really get talked. Jeff Saturday gets chatted about obviously. Charlie Johnson, Ryan Deem, Lilja. They can hammer some beers too, that crew. They could really do it.

That was a fun group. They were a good group. Hey lads, you did good. If you're watching. Charlie Johnson Left tackle he was awesome. He was called the card player. So got along with him. I saw him at a WWE event Like I mean I hadn't seen him in probably I don't know eight nine years Maybe and I'm sitting at the commentary table and there's some massive human being like sitting over here, you know,

with his family and it's like third row and I'm looking over and I see this thing and I'm like, holy shit, that's Charlie Johnson. And I'm like, so I like try to like look at him. He looks over at me one time and I go, Charlie, what? Good to see you. And he goes, what up, man? I'm like, why didn't you just, and he goes, I don't want to bother. And I go, Charlie, good to see you. And he goes, what up, man? I'm like, why didn't you just, and he goes, I don't want to bother. And I'm like, great to see you. It is great to see you. Family, you know, everybody, it's like such a different,

it's crazy to watch everybody kind of grow and get older, you know, and kind of mature, I guess is what they say. But that offensive line never gets talked about. I do appreciate the fact, though, that maybe that is the model. I think they're also thinking about what the Eagles did. I mean the Eagles paid two wide receivers, paid a quarterback. They were able to pay a running back.

They had a defense though that they just drafted straight out of Georgia. Yep. They say we're gonna go straight to Georgia, give us that defense. We'll see how they play in the NFL and it's gonna work out. You just have to hit on your drafts. Now let's talk about Philadelphia. Lane Johnson has restructured his contract. Way to go, Lane-O! Lane-O! Lane-O!

Obviously multiple Super Bowl champion. People talk about this guy as being one of the goats, if not the goat, right, tackle in the NFL. $40 million guaranteed over the next two years. Good for him. Six-time Pro Bowler. An absolute stud. I mean, just an absolute stud out of Oklahoma.

And whenever you think about that offensive line, obviously you think about how great they are But Lane Johnson is obviously a pillar an actual pillar of that offensive line Nick Sirianni knows that Obviously how he knows that Jeff knows that Bradley Cooper probably had to sign off on this deal Yeah, and Lane Johnson restructures contract to be able to give them a little bit more money over there in Philadelphia They're always working feels like they always get a right those those Philadelphia Eagles. No doubt about it. And kind of the reputation that they have now, you know, they pay their players. Lane also now becomes that Brandon Graham kind of Kelsey role where he is now the longest tenured Eagle left on the team. So he is kind of that elder statesman, not that he wasn't before, but now he is number one on that list. And

you know, especially in that division with Michael Parsons, kind of everything that the commanders, they're linked to Trey Hendrickson. If they do get traded like those tackles him and my lot of they're kind of like the the stalwarts of that offensive line. Now my auto mic'd up is awesome. Oh, yeah singing on the field great moxie. Great the whole lane same exact.

Yeah, I mean that is, that is, you know, people want to invest in everything. You have a good offensive line, your team's going to win games. That's just, doesn't matter who's your quarterback. Does it has to be an NFL quarterback. Can't be a UFO quarterback. Are they still? They might still be picking in. Are they holding out? Do we know if they've mean either think so hey listen UFL boys respect that you're like yeah give me my read the room yeah you know and I'm not just saying that as somebody that watches you I feel I'm just saying like the only thing it's been reported you FL is he's lost like 40 million or something

like there was a lot of money there was I know the most thing I got great news they stopped their hold up yeah they returned to camp Thank you for doing it. I read the roof five-day holdout where they get some free Gatorade seven million each. Okay. Yeah Yeah, I bet they did. Yep. Congrats the UFO guys Very cameo and one of Duane's new movies. Yeah, I mean I Don't even want to get into it There's a lot of that happen in the world right now. Sure You know, like I just read the room a little bit But nonetheless Lane Johnson gets paid congrats to him. I love everything about Lane You build up your offensive line you get that's why there's a lot of new mock drafts coming out and Will Campbell's not even in top

10 right Will Campbell was Solidified first rounder basically everybody saying that LSU This guy's the next one, this is the one, and runs sub 5-0 at the combine. Showcases he's an athlete. His arms measure a little shorter though than they want. Now new mock drafts are out, and Will Campbell's not even in the top ten. And I just got done doing a whole speech about if you have a good offensive line, you're gonna win games. It's interesting what's happening right now. Yeah, he's 13th in Kipers and 10th in Daniel Jeremiah's In Kipers in general there was not a an offensive lineman in the top 10

Mambo was the first one at 11 DJ did have Mambo going 7 to the Jets So it feels like yeah, it's a little bit of a down year for the offensive lineman in this draft That's probably why you saw so many teams taking risks on lineman we didn't know about in free agency. But as far as the draft goes, yeah, it's not the best offensive lineman year that we've had in a while. Congrats all the offensive lineman during free agency, especially this first couple of days,

a lot of money going to a lot of guys we never heard of. And good for them. I mean, I'm very, very happy for them, but there was a lot of dudes that had like 200 snaps. Hey, you're getting paid as if you're now left tackle one. We're gonna trade this guy. Who's that guy? He's swing guy How's he getting? 20 million dollars. It's like well, I guess cuz the draft glass potentially down somebody that might know a little bit more about that A man who is absolutely dominated the draft even though at one point people said he said fuck these big Is a Super Bowl champion He's been able to lead the Los Angeles Rams through a all-in phase and then a hey, we got a developed phase

They got a young team right now, but they have a couple old core pillars. They were just one play away Potentially from beating the go on the Super Bowl champs Philadelphia Eagles in the playoffs. They get Matthew Stafford back They trade for Devonte Adams. Pook and Akua still on their team, so the vibes are gonna be high. The general manager for who's house? Ram's house, less need. Yeah!

Yes! How you doing, man? How's it going? You look super cool. You know what, I was listening to y'all. I think if you know an offensive lineman's name, usually that's he's jumped off sides or he's had a bad holding call

or some unbelievable defensive end like Myles Garrett is ripping for a sack on third down. So it's probably good that you don't know their name. Yeah I think so too you're right. That's like long snappers don't know them unless they send one over somebody's head. Offensive lineman you don't know unless they get cooked. I respect that attitude. You had to build up your offensive line though, Les. So let's talk about you and building your team. Because obviously we respected the hell out of you going all in, okay? We're bringing in Matthew Stafford.

Obviously we got Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey's coming over here. You went all in trying to win. And you did. Wins a Super Bowl in Los Angeles whenever there was, you know, who's gonna be the team of this city, especially when it's hosting a Super Bowl. And then everybody talks about kicking the can down the road, kicking the can down the road. Inevitably that can's

going to come to fruition. It did and you have transitioned now into drafting a younger team, a core team, that's going to be able to come up. Do you think that is accurate, that there's two different ways you have to build a team? And in your mind, is the draft the most important part of the bounce back after you kick can down the road as they say with the salary cap Definitely, I think I think you could call it There's many ways we've seen it happen where you look at all the teams that actually cashed in right won The trophy was able to do the the city parade

There's a lot of ways to do that, but I do think there's an element of Cyclicalness to it. There's a cycle where teams are going to go through. It's different from or similar to college football, right? Where you maybe you have this senior class, maybe you're Michigan when Harbaugh had his senior class. And then all of a sudden this year they go to a younger class. So it probably depends on what phase, what window, what stage you're in as a team. I will continue this football talk but I thought that was a picture of you that like somebody drew on your wall there. Why do

I have such a good jawline right there on your on your wall over your left shoulder? You know what this is? I'm in artist Wyman's office and I believe we have someone. It works in our studios. She's an artist and anytime artists allow someone to do a zoom here, she likes to let's call it paint, draw, scribble the picture of whoever they think is the most important person on the zoom call. Okay. All right. In this case, it's you think it's pretty good. Yeah. It's kind of a linebacker look. You know, it's not necessarily a punter look. Yeah.

Kind of you going to West Virginia, played inside backer. You know what I mean? Yeah, not tough enough, but what? It does have that feel with that jawline. I like artists. You know, shout out to artists. Hey, I'm a big fan of artists.

You let artists know I respect them. We were not always on good terms. I think that might have been a one-way street Then at the Super Bowl got a chance to chat with him good lad He's a good man and you let it good when you come together you put your differences on the table You know what come up with the parameters the partnership and you know what let's work this out. So, okay So he told me though. He told me it all started with a Johnny Hecker Kind of misunderstanding. No.

And I was thinking about when Johnny just signed with the Titans, I mean wow, what a, gosh 35, what a career he's had. Yeah, he crossed into Carolina as well. We're talking about hitting bombs over there. Obviously for you guys at the Rams, he becomes one of the greatest of all time and he continues at the Tennessee Titans. He's going to love it down there. You know, if they can get a squad, he's gonna love Nashville.

And speaking of loving people, let's get back to that. You talked about, you know, coming to parameters, sitting down, putting it to the side, right there with me and Artis, which we certainly did at Super Bowl. Matthew Stafford, okay, let's talk about this situation. He was open to go explore opportunities, I believe is how I was being worded.

Is that so you can test out, hey, what is a fair market value? What is the market saying? And then when you inevitably sit down with him, and I assume Sean McVeigh is there as well, what is that conversation to continue on and continue to win another Super Bowl for the Rams? It was definitely a unique experience. It was really fruitful, very rejuvenating to all of us. And I think at the end of the day,

the partnership with the franchise QB, right, is a nickname, franchise QB. And there comes with parameters and there's trade-offs with those parameters. But at the end of the day, we're partnering, right, to go on this journey, to chase great, to chase good, to be better than good. And there's some stress and drudgery with that. But each year since the Super Bowl, once we came back and redid his

contract and once the contract, and he's still under contract and we come back every year, there's this element of working through some of those parameters, those trade-offs. And sometimes there's, you know, there's an element of friction there when you go through those situations. The neat thing about that month, even though it was a grueling month to work through, hey are we going to trade Matthew? Is Matthew going to want to go somewhere else? Is he going to want to come back here? At the end of the day, everyone, Matthew, his family, Sean, our coaching staff, myself, our organization,

we all realized, you know what, we really wanna take on this journey together. And it was a cool, let's call it rekindle our relationship, get rejuvenated to go chase great. Cuz there's stress and drudgery that comes with chasing great, especially when you're a franchise QB. Yeah, especially when you're as great as Matthew Stafford is. And obviously with how great he has played and Sean McVeigh's offense is spectacular. And I think the way he and Sean have worked together has been awesome for the Rams.

Obviously has been very fruitful. Allegedly he was offered like 100 million guaranteed to go somewhere else. So whatever the drudgery in conversation and rekindling that you guys had seems like it was great. Ledgerly turned down Yeah, you know tens of millions. Everybody hates moving which I assume you did hammer home a couple times But I I think watching him go back made me feel like okay. That's a real ramly over there. That's a real family No doubt in the stress and judgeries is the journey right the climb. It's a steep hill every year But again, if, there can be some

friction when you're going through, okay, what are going to be the parameters of what we're, let's call it, paying the QB? And also, hey, we're trying to build a team around him. So let's go chase greatness. That's where some of the friction comes into it. But at the end of the day, as we went through that month, you know what? It worked out and we're all Jack to be partner him walking in 100 million guaranteed they're offering me I'm 37 years old bro what do you that's an interesting give-and-take happy you ended up where you are now I can't wait to watch him work now Cooper Cup obviously is a member of the Seattle Seahawks he goes home you guys had a great run together you've said nothing but respectful things about him and he has said the same back now you bring in

Davante Adams who is I think eager to get back into relevant football why was Davante Adams a guy that you wanted in your building and Sean McVeigh cutting up highlights and voicing over them and sending them to him while he's recruiting him is that always a part of your guys' process to get people to become members of the Rams? Genius shit. Oh yeah, Shawn, he would do really well in college football. Maybe not in the NIO era, but back in the old days

when you really recruited. I do know this, when you're a player and you really, really prioritize being really good at football, and you appreciate the, let's call it the the the collective and and what comes with winning Sean's really really good at connecting with those players because Sean's gonna mention and he's gonna outline how we're all gonna go chase that greatness We were talking about so that that's and there in Devante just brings a skill set to the element

I mean to our table It's the next iteration of what we want to do is as Sean and his staff have worked through where we've been, where we're trying to go, what we're trying to accomplish, how you're adjusting to the league, how the league's adjusting to the defending you. The enemy has a say sometimes and Sean, his staff is always trying to stay ahead of that. Gosh, your messaging, man. It's like, hey, this is how we operate. It's very clear that you guys have a direction

over there in Los Angeles. You and Sean being on the same page is, I think, key to all of it. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, speaking of that, what is your relationship like with Coach McVay? Obviously, he's very passionate and kind of intense, and it seems like someone kind of needs to match his energy

In order to get along with him for as long as you guys have So what is that relationship? You know whether it's personal or you're working relationship like with him on a day-to-day basis Me over though it's really really special one of my favorite ones on planet Earth as we we've gotten in the bunker and You know tried to do hard things together. So here's a great story and I tell Sean this all the time. We hired him when he was 30 years old.

That story's been written right. You reverse engineer it and it's like a no brainer. You should have hired him when he was 29. I've often kidded with Sean. There's no doubt we've changed your life for the good But boy did we probably ruin it as well. You just think about how many how many 30 year olds that you know? I mean, it certainly wasn't me It's like when you're 30 to 39 you can kind of be a professional

But you can still goof around and maybe not have to be in a head coach of the Los Angeles Rams So there's a there's an element that I'm a big brother. We have this neat chemistry that, you know what, we can go out and have a boxing match and then go have a beer afterwards. You know what I mean? But you put on some boxing gloves and I think y'all did a video of him. You've seen him squatting recently. So we're definitely not going to wrestle because boy could he, I mean, I'm getting jealous of him. I used to be a back in, back in high school,

state champion weightlifter and man, now I will go grab Sean. Holy cow. When you grab Sean, now you're like, man, rocked up. I have really gotten weak in my fifties. So here's an element. Wait, go ahead. Yeah. I want to, I want to, yeah, I had to bring that on only because I'm jealous, human nature, jealous of Sean, right? He he gets the video. I mean, but again, he was using that safety bar back in my day We didn't do safety bar. No, no, this is straight bar. This is old school Yeah, put it on your back go down get parallel. Yeah, you know kind of stare at the judges and then come up

Yeah, not this. Yeah, not the safety bar. Yeah, now did I immediately text Andrew Whitworth and ask him, where can I get that safety bar for my gym? Yeah, is that the only bar I'm gonna squat with for the rest of my life? Yeah, but Shawn getting after in there with Whit, with a lot of- I mean, look at that WWE Championship belt he's got on. Yeah, Whitworth's wearing one of those as well in there and he's got a dumper still. Oh, Whitworth, he's still got a big pooper.

That thing is way out there, good explosion. So you don't lift over at the Village? You don't get in there? It's interesting, Ryan Sorensen who works with Whit, who trains. I can tell you this, Pat, a little bit after COVID, got back into working out a little bit with Ryan Sorensen. Whit was still playing then. So Whit didn't have his gym then. I can tell you this, I went through about a year with Ryan and I looked at him and I said, Ryan, you know what? I work out to have fun. This is just not fun. I mean, he would wear me out.

I would want to throw up doing just bands, a band workout. And I'm like, you know what? I didn't come here to puke doing bands, but you know what? They've gotten Sean into doing it and boys, he obviously, you know, the tape, the tail of the tape, the tape doesn't lie. They're saying 500 pounds on his back. They're saying Pook is puking all those workouts. Sounds like Ryan Sorensen is a puke bucket creator. I, uh. Oh, there's nothing. He's old.

Yeah, he's puke bucket. I can tell you this though about Puka. I don't know. It seems like Puka pukes all the time. He could be first quarter. It could be after a touchdown. It could be at halftime. I think he just pukes.

Can't spell, you know. I don't know. That's true. Can't spell puke. Puka's the best. He is. Going back to that, I do think, here's the neat thing about Sean and working with him is,

obviously Sean, his coaches, they design the systems, right? They're, what they're trying to get accomplished on game day, how they're gonna deploy each player. And Sean's got this way, and that's why he's gonna be really good on television. He can explain it in a madness way, where it's plain as sight, as you know exactly what type of player, what edge they bring to the table, no matter where they're at in the draft

and free agency, and how they can really, really help us in a specific role. And I think that's one of the, that's why Devontae watched that video and said, you know what, we're going to have fun in LA, but you know what? They prioritize football there. Guess what? When we go have personnel meetings or draft meetings or free agency meetings, yeah, we're going to be, we're going to be throwing around some, what's the, the movie, uh, uh, wedding crashers quotes, but Sean's also going to really, really articulate along with his staff, Hey, you know what? This is what we need this position to do. Right.

And it might even be a pet, a punter who not only can putt, but can kick off. So that's why we drafted Ethan Evans in the, in the probably fifth, sixth round a couple of years ago. Right. Because we knew we might've been going with an older kicker, didn't want to, you know, waste his leg kicking off so uh it's it's very clear and concise on what we're looking for. That's uh I love that you think that deep and I like that his communication ability probably helps out the entire building. Hey this

is what we need this one we're looking for you can obviously go find that. Ethan Evans is a dog you're talking about in the weight room now he's posting videos of him squatting and deadlifting and cleaning. He's a monster. You got a lot of monsters. You gotta get your producers, directors, whoever's down. I mean, I feel like we should have some clips going of Ethan Evans right about now. Yeah, director. Get to him back now. Let's go back to back, kind of Rich Eisen 40 this thing with, you know, Ethan and Sean squatting. Yeah, well, I think Ethan's got him pretty good. This is him right here. Oh

That's a hell of a job by someone in your world. That's all Zito in the back I don't know if he's directing anything, but he's certainly producing some magic back here about this This is our head coach and punter, you know, this isn't an offensive lineman that you don't know their name This is a head coach and punter. They're saying 585 pounds right there he's Ethan Evans the punter it's like hell yeah I got dogs over there in LA now speaking of that let's go to your drafting process AP tone has a question for you yeah Les people are starting to notice that you might have a kind of guy that you go after all these stud defensive linemen that you have drafted they all started at small schools and then transferred to bigger schools and it had success there.

First went to Albany, Turner was at Richmond, Byron Young was at Georgia Military, and Fisk was at Western Michigan before they all transferred to their schools. Is that just a coincidence or is there something in guys going up a level continuing to play well that you like in drafting and defensive linemen that has been so successful? You know, I think it's probably a very fruitful coincidence. It's not necessarily a prerequisite at the end of the day. But I do think that the moral to that story or maybe a lesson in there is right. Each one of those players bet on themselves along the way. Each one of those players had this dream to play at a certain level of

the video game and maybe out of high school, didn't quite get to the level of the video game they wanted to. But you know what? They signed up, they persevered, they were resilient, they got better each day and they worked their way up to that next level of the video game. When they got there, guess what? They dominated and you know what we said, you know, hey, let's make you let's bring you to the Rams house for safe

the young core d line is Probably what makes you most excited about the potential next few years and What you think this team could be you have some pivotal positions on young contracts That is a massive ordeal. I would assume and at what moment this past season Did you know that these guys could be real because at the beginning they're going into the trade deadline It was maybe you guys are gonna be sellers like hey, maybe this isn't the year then I think some health happen is that the moment do you realize like maybe this year is a good year for this team or Did you think you were a year out? How did you kind of view that young defense and defensive line?

From the start from the, we always knew, okay, we appreciate it on paper, right? Who we thought these players could be and where they could get to. Maybe they weren't there then and probably as individuals and even as a collective unit. But each game you could see that group evolving again as individuals and then as a group and then obviously at the end of the season, they were applying as much pressure. And we even had some of those games, right? Un-Shawn McVeigh like games where we're winning,

we're winning 10 to nine per se. We were a defensive bunch. So we always felt like let's just hang in there. Let's let this group keep evolving. Again, when you're one and four and you got a Thursday night game probably against the probably three and one or four and one Minnesota Vikings and boy that's when when they were rolling and coach Flores had you know they were they were coming.

That's not where you want to be. But you know what that challenge that you know that was a pivotal challenge that this young team and and we were taking on water too. Some of our studs were still injured and we didn't have them back. But we got Puka back that night. He ignited confidence in the building where you know what? Originally he was gonna play the following week. He walked in on Monday and said, you know what, let's do it on Thursday night. And I think from that moment on, let's go.

Let's get in the ring and make this happen. And then you just take it one at a time. But going back to the defense, you could see them that they, you felt like they were going to evolve and they got there pretty quick. Yeah, I'd say. And then I remember after that Thursday night,

remember you guys ripped the helmet off the guys. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Sam. Yeah. Right off of Sam's head there. Yeah. That's how you guys won the game. I remember that you guys cheated, but nonetheless, you guys get a bigtime win. I remember that you remember that Every now and then you know, you gotta get return on good luck

Every now and then official misses the call don't complain about it, you know either sometimes it goes your way sometimes it doesn't amen Now going your guys away multiple times in bigger situation down in New Orleans. Yeah, nonetheless nonetheless. I love it means you guys are living right? That's why it's happening But from that moment I think once you guys started winning it was like these guys gonna be trading at the deadline to wait a minute Nobody wants to see the Rams right now And that's literally how the season ended all the way up into that Eagles game whenever Jalen Carter just decides He's gonna become a superhuman again in the middle of that It's like your team was fun to watch this year. It was like watching a team kind of go. I don't want to say this is a bad example, but I just want to from JV to like varsity. It was like watching your team evolve into like the team that they can

be excited to watch them going forward. Now on that note, you had to pick or you had to fix a very important part of the team. Good con man. Yeah. Another group that involved evolved involved less was the offensive line and you guys actually just moved on from Jonah Jackson just because of how good the draft picks that you had kind of worked out. How did that kind of progress throughout the year and how hard is it to find the right lineman for a Sean McVay system? It's a little bit difficult, right?

Because we have a specific skill set, but we won't get into that. I think we always want quality offensive line going to Jonah, and he's a quality offensive lineman. I mean, we've seen what he did in Detroit. The interesting thing there is we attempted to move Steve Avila, who had played really well at guard for us his rookie year, to center. He had been a center and guard at TCU and at the end of the day both Steve when Steve got injured during the process of you know training to be the center Jonah has

a center background to him so we even said let's move Jonah there now that Steve's hurt and then Jonah got hurt. End of the day now we're training two players who been a guard in the NFL. We're trying to make them center and oh boy, it's not going well and they're both injured. And so when we're in camp, in pads, when you really are stressing under fire to figure out can we do this, we didn't have either one of those. Then here comes Bo Lemmer says I'll take the job So at the end of the day once we got to the end of the season, we were probably again return on

Bad luck right bad luck being the injury to Steve Avila and Jonah Jackson the good luck we drafted Bo Lemmer So now we felt like we were probably one extra starter In terms of Jonah Steve and big K Dot at guard and we felt like this was the best thing for the team and even Jonah because we could have brought Jonah back. We could have gone to a three guard rotation. You might have an injury and Jonah fits right in. But I know Jonah really wanted to, you know, go play, have a chance.

And then they got to give Jonah Jackson credit that you've been in the locker rooms. This guy's making $17 million. He goes through feeling guilty. Like I'm not starting and I'm making 17. And you're like, you know what? It's okay. We got into a conundrum, but we're winning here. And he goes out and he does scout team.

I mean, he's like the leader. I mean, that's a man and I wish him nothing. And I know why Ben Johnson and And the Bears and Ryan Poles I know why they they attacked and attacked going after him because of Ben's Ben's probably relationship with him in Detroit and Chicago needing offensive lineman and let's go History congrats for Chicago sounds like you're getting a dude, you know, like that's of buy-in and I feel bad. You're getting a dude. That's a dude. Yeah, that's what it... Hey look at Chicago!

Hey, last question here. We're coming up on a hard out. We can't thank you enough for your time. Honestly, this is very very kind of you. Shout out to Artis, you know, shout out to Artis, and the artist in the office that threw my face as a jacked person. What should we know about this particular draft? You know, there's a lot of conversation about like is there high end talent? Is there more depth of talent? Like what do you think about this particular draft class as a whole and what will the storyline be you think the day after the draft? You know every draft has talent it'll be a fun draft only because you think about last year seven I think we picked 19 last year seven

QBs went before pick 19 it's probably a reason why someone like Jared verse got pushed to 19 you never know maybe would have fallen 19 anyway maybe we'd go on pick 15 sick I don't know a little bit earlier if it wasn't those seven QBs it doesn't seem like this year there's gonna be seven QBs that go before pick 19 So that is going to be the for the first time in a while How many QBs actually go in the first round how many go? You know before pick 15 all those things and what that does now is all of a sudden Let's call it position players start getting picked right earlier and earlier

So it's going to be a fascinating draft of Position players and not just QB dominated and it'll be fun to take the day after the draft Whatever that storyline is that's that's gonna be irrelevant That'll be good content for maybe your show on Monday, maybe Tuesday, but I can't tell you this It'll be interesting to see right how these players who get picked in this first round and even second round, things like that, what they're doing two and three years down the road. Only because, hey, it's going to be the first year where it might be the least amount of QBs, you know, picked in the first round in a long time. I love the general manager saying, yeah, we're judging drafts the day after the draft. Why don't we wait two, three years and see who's the winner, who's not. You certainly have been and we appreciate you taking the time. Les, have a great day.

Hey, appreciate it. Always enjoy it. Hey, can Artis sign that photo and send that or is that dry erase? Oh, we're sending it to you. Thank you. Artis, I need an autograph from you, Artis. Appreciate that. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Let's see. That was awesome. Artis, what a relationship. Yeah yeah I was interested in little photo there yeah I don't know what happened

there his example was the person in the office draws the person who's the most important on zoom put over there and I think that's less trying to put us over there sure I do wonder if they just had a photo of me in artists office there for like the last three because I think. Darkboard type thing? Yeah, I don't know if it's a darkboard or if it's... I don't know exactly. Because I think, I think some, I don't know about all people, but I think there is a good amount of people at the Los Angeles Rams building who watch our program. For sure.

And are fans of our program. But we never reach out to them because of their PR guy artist. Right. Yes. So then the artist at Super Bowl comes over and goes, hey man, if I... I apologize. I don't know how this guy's side was. I don't know what I, yeah.

And I'm like, that was very kind of you. And I told him what happened, he goes, I'm sorry I did that. It was probably just like a blip in his world, but for me I'm like, fuck that guy. He's a good man. Show of the Ram. It's happening again.

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who's the greatest college basketball team on planet Earth. Madness is in store. Magic is on the horizon. And one team will change the trajectory of their school forever. And one team cheated their way in to the entirety of it in the North Carolina Tar Heels, allegedly.

Now, are they gonna beat San Diego State tonight? They're favored by four and a half. If they were to play West Virginia, would they beat West Virginia? No, I don't think so. Especially from what I've been looking into. Hi, in Quad One games, UNC, not good. How's West Virginia in Quad One games? Great, ask the governor of West Virginia.

He'll tell you all of the stats. But tonight, the madness starts. And I'll tell you,'m not obviously clearly the biggest college basketball human okay I didn't grow up in a college basketball town although the pit teams were good with Dixon as the coach very good they were awesome to watch they were fun to watch and I did follow along but I didn't keep track of everything going on every single year it's the same story whenever we get captivated by this particular sport, we get captivated by the performances and the storylines, and we get captivated by some small school

that goes on a run. Because all you gotta do is get hot for eight games, seven games, whatever it is, six games, whatever the hell it is, you get it. And if you get hot, you steal the show. And some guys will launch themselves into lottery picks. Some guys will change an entire state's economy. Some team will disappoint everybody.

And that's what the madness is all about. To talk some tables here at Boss Conner and Attachement, Conner, man, this is the best fit you've ever had on this show. Wow. Yes. Thank you very much. Fully agree.

I thought the same thing. Fully agree. Really? While we were talking in the first hour, you were speaking and I didn't want to interrupt you and just stop you from what you were saying. But was like the hat bill matches the hoodie and then I believe the under half of the yeah I mean and then this is blue and on your hat. There's blue blue I mean, it's yeah, cuz a lot of times the pants are black with like a blue

I have a purple t-shirt. Yeah, but that looks kind of bluish Next to the yeah, I was gonna wear the purple wolf shirt Thank you very much. I appreciate that while you were talking about that is magical like more that's madness March right there For your fit this is my first good fit I really appreciate that I you know This is a surreal experience while we were talking about that. I feel like I just remembered everything about DJ burns last year, NC state, the big man. We were kind of having a conversation with him before. I believe he is now in South Korea, basically running the entire country, playing basketball over there, leading some team to what is sure the South Korean basketball championship,

I would assume. But it is, there's always those players that, you know, change their lives, change the economy, but also just like come out of nowhere and make a name for themselves. Like always. And then disappear. And then, yeah, and then become nothing. Yeah, like I'll-

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, You understand what I'm saying? Geez, please, act like you're fit. In the, in the basketball world, like Steph Curry, for instance, became, you know, Steph Curry started as Davidson.

I didn't know who that was until that incredible run and then now he's you know considered one of the greatest college basketball players or sorry just basketball players of all time then there are DJ Burns who have this incredible run and they just become those players that kind of define March because I mean what was NC State last year in 11 seed? Yeah something like that something like that and then DJ Burns became this guy who was scoring 30 every single time they played obviously Jim or for dead things of that nature as well Gouki dad boom from Oakland. Yeah, he was incredibly. Who's the?

white dude Ole Miss Henderson yeah, yeah Marshall hand Yeah, this tournament always create one of st. Peters can't remember his name, but he was great. Drew Peters. Doug Eater. Bump the Wild Wings, yes! Okay, alright. This is what we're talking about.

And we could have never guessed any of that was going to take place before the tournament. Which is why this is such a magical ride. You know, for the next couple of weeks, we get to talk about shit that's never going to be able to be talked about again. Yeah. There's going to be some coach is going to drop some plates, some mid major and he's going to be maybe talked about as going to Iowa or talking about going to Indiana or maybe going to West Virginia. Got a three horse race right now.

What the hell is going on with the coaching staff? I have no idea. Yeah, the the debris situation is crazy Obviously there are reports that came out that he was in Iowa City yesterday meeting with their athletic director a little bit of background For people who don't know he was Drake's head coach his younger brother was an all-american at Iowa yeah. Yeah Drake, who's in the tournament this year, it's in Des Moines. His younger brother was an all-american D lineman at Iowa. Played for the Lions. He played basketball at UNI, but a lot of people have said, hey, that's that's like a dream job. Go back home, be able to coach at Iowa. But now they're saying, hey, Indiana,

he's the top candidate. Hot to trot. Exactly, he's the top candidate for that job. How come West Virginia isn't the top candidate for degrees? But that's the thing is. He's currently our head coach. But we haven't heard that, like, hey, he's done it, West Virginia. He's going to go seek one of these jobs. Now, if he was in Iowa City, then you

would think that there's a chance he is looking. But then they're also talking about Drake's head coach, where he used to be saying saying hey, Indiana also likes him Iowa likes him that could be a spot West Virginia So it's almost like every coach who is available or who's gonna take that next step up They're either gonna find themselves at Iowa, Indiana or West Virginia. So we really don't know what the hell's I talked to whitey earlier West Virginia Of course great voiceover guy great voiceover did the one whenever we went back to West Virginia.

Last place in fantasy football. West Virginia, absolutely old grandpa. West Virginia's been viewed as like a mid-major right now. Don't love that. You just mentioned Drake. Yeah. Yeah, they love their coach at Drake. It's like, yeah, West Virginia, their coach might have it.

Maybe. We're in the Big 12. Okay. We have been dancing deep in the dance plenty of times before plenty we ever yes Beeline did it Huggins did it. No fucking Jerry West played for West Virginia Okay, so let's go back to figure it the fuck out before you start talking. I know you look cool But let's just you know, I forgot about huggy same way. He forgets, you know when he's I forgot about Huggy same way he forgets you know when he's driving. Okay! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

I'm a fan! I like Huggy. I like Huggy. I love him. I believe he is admitted to problems. Obviously can't be doing it. I think he's getting healthier hopefully like everybody else, especially in this particular climate. Fix that vernacular. With technology and everything like it. And yeah, I think that happened like back to back. It was right. Yeah, back to back. A lot happened there. But nonetheless, we get kicked out of the tournament for some other team. Yeah, you know, like clearly 111 bracket all just they only ship by the small school was absolutely jobbed almost intentionally

It feels like and then now our coach like maybe he is okay down there down there at West, Virginia It's like what the why is this happening? Hey, right answer the phone I don't know who's calling but answer the phone. I don't know who's calling, but answer the phone. I was gonna say, he's answering your calls. It's not like he's not picking up the- Haven't talked to Wren in months. I have not.

Months? But Wren needs to answer the phones. I don't know who's calling. He needs to maybe pick up the phones. Enough of this. Now he put out a statement saying, the Vries and us have a very good convo, you know, heartbroken for WV Hoops This is after the committee dinner last night

Wren put out a quote about like hey the future very bright together with the Vries and you know And he is our type of guy. I met him at Rich Rod's press conference. He was there cool, dude Very casual just walked in tap up. How you doing? This will be like his kid who was a stud Yeah came over from Drake Uh, he gets hurt then like that was literally the week it happened team still goes on to win games Not enough. They're still in the conversation, which is kind of a tough thing. I think west virginia like oh this team How would they do if they did get you know, like that whole conversation They just don't like that. They're treated as like a nothing, like getting treated

like a nothing university. In the DeVries Convo, it's like, yeah, I was gonna hire him or Indiana's gonna hire him. It's like, I understand Indiana, because we live in a state, love basketball. Okay, now Kurt Signecki, what he's been able to do with the football team, how much money he's been able to raise, has that taken money away from the basketball thing?

I doubt it. They fucking, they love hoops out here. They love Hoosier hoops out here. They do not love that it has been irrelevant for a while I doubt it. They fucking, they love hoops out here. They love Hoosier hoops out here. They do not love that it has been irrelevant for a while at the Indiana basketball operation. So like, maybe that's like one of the schools that he could have like, you know,

whenever he was in his thing. Iowa going back home, I know it's a story and everything like that. But he just got to West Virginia, buddy. Like, we got some special stuff to do, especially after you get a job by the NCAA. You can literally use that as an entire motivator Like my first year here remember what happened and going to run nobody saying that though for West Virginia

Only thing that's being said is this guy's gone. It's just where's he headed to? Where the hell how the hell is he getting out of the big 12 to get to the big 10? It's like DeVries we want you buddy. Yeah, hey, so do we? So, you know you guys are gonna have to hey listen, you know, you're gonna have to come to the plate You're gonna have to come to the plate do something maybe give him a raise or something I know in football the coaching contracts are a lot bigger in the big ten I assume they are a lot bigger in basketball. Yeah. Yeah, but the basketball in the big 12 People been talking about it. It's good. It is that is it cuz Kansas is like a 17 now

about it. It's good. It is good. Is it? Cuz Kansas is like a seven seed now. They had a bad year. They had a bad year. I think big drum basketball. I think Kansas. Okay? And and Arizona. What's Arizona? Four seed this year? I mean, do they even have a one seed? Not bad. They're under they're under respect as well. So, they got a little chip on their shoulder. Joining us now is a guy whose team didn't make it in the tournament but they don't care cuz Ryan Day is talking about football again. Ladies and gentlemen, college

football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, AJ Hawkins. Yeah. AJ, I don't know if your guys' coach is getting plucked everywhere, but that's happening in West Virginia right now. And I can't wait for these games to start so that the madness isn't just about West Virginia getting fucked. Like I would like the games to start so it can just be that.

I tell you what, Governor Morrissey and his presser that you guys showed clips of, that was amazing. Is he citing 111 bracketologists as like his, this is the research, these are the people who are bracketologists and who names them that. Do you get, wouldn't you go from, hey, I'm a writer to a bracketologist, like I'm an expert at this situation. Well, you just got to, you got to showcase an ability. It's cool for you. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete, yeah you just got to, you got to showcase an ability.

Go to school for it. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete, yeah, you got to showcase that you're good. You know, like how do gamblers go from gamblers to professional gamblers? I think it's like a 60 some percent hitter. What, there's like a rate that some gambling sites hire. You got to quit your day job.

Yeah, you got to quit your day job. You got to hit a certain percentage and then you can become like one of these at some of these professional gambling sites, okay? So I think in this particular case, you just gotta get it right most of the time over the years. There's 111 of them, that's a lot. I don't know how many people are getting it right,

but we do know and the governor knows, first time ever all 111 were wrong. Okay, not even one in 111 got it right. That West Virginia wasn't gonna be in. So Governor Morrissey says, they know it better than I do. I mean, I'm about to learn a better than anybody But I got questions is what governor Morris he said maybe there'll be some transparency Maybe there'll be some transparency going forward speaking of transparency

Pete Thamel is reporting that coach DeVries is not a candidate for the Iowa job. Wow Pete Thamel, but he's been wrong several times Oh, I love Pete Thamel, but he's been wrong several times. That's not until until it comes out that he is not going to. Yeah. Call him. Call Pete right now. And I'll let I'll let him know. Hey, listen, Pete fucking back off. All right. I'm telling you what? Over there, he said, this ain't it. That's what he said.

Well, maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. But you know what? Pete Thamel is not the arbiter on everything. Oh, he's the authority! He is, he is, but guess what? Pete's been wrong before, and he might be wrong again. Okay, obviously he's taking a lot of hacks in the batter's box. Everyone's going to miss the ball. We are calling currently the authority.

We are joined, ladies and gentlemen, by the authority in college football and back in college basketball full-time, Pete Dammell. Yeah, Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete, Pete, Pete! Pete, it's great to see you. President Pete.

Great to see you, President Pete out here, yes. It is great to see cool Pete, Took. What do you guys call it in Canada? A toque, what is that? A toque is what you call it? That's a toque, yeah. Beanie, a toque, a t got to do? Yeah beanie a toque Tossel you name it. You look awesome. Pete You just obviously sent some shockwaves through this particular Thunderdome because the breeze obviously West Virginia's head coach one year

Got jobbed out of that term. Everybody knows 111 bracket. All I just probably Pete being one of them I did not see this coming. So he was being tied to the Iowa job this morning I woke up to a bunch of people saying he's being tied to the Indiana job. I heard nobody saying he was still tied to West Virginia, which obviously had me a bit upset. What is the current situation with coach DeVries and why is he not a candidate for the Iowa job? I thought that was like dream job for him and they need a coach for the first time in 15 years, Pete? Yeah, so good, all good questions, Pat. I, I feel like we're gonna, you know, this is a little bit of a domino effect, right? I do feel like we're going to get some clarity on the

on where Indiana is headed here in the next couple days. And perhaps sooner. There's been, you know, I reported Saturday on college basketball game day that, you know, the Iowa search was focused on three different candidates, Ben McCollum, Darren DeVries, and Clemson's Brad Burnell. And the Tom's obviously the Drake coach. So two of those coaches are in the NCAA tournament and one of them isn't, obviously, you can ask the governor of your, the state where your alma mater lies what happened with them. So I do feel like Indiana's cards are going to be shown pretty quickly here, Pat, on where they go.

And then that will ripple into Iowa's options. Why is DeVries not... okay, thank you for all that information. Why is DeVries not a candidate for the Iowa job? They just didn't like the cut of his jib? I don't think that's...I think Iowa has been interested in Darren DeVries. I don't think it's from Iowa's side. There's a large bio involved, which could be a factor here. Yeah, I was in an interesting situation right now. I would expect if Darren DeVries does go to Indiana, which is at least a possibility at this point, that Ben McCollum would be right at the forefront of that Iowa search. He's obviously right there. Drake, he's won four national titles.

He's an excellent coach. So yeah, these things are always very fluid, Pat. And it's a very interesting situation right now between your home state and Ty as alma mater. So let's say DeVries leaves West Virginia. Don't love it. What is the percentage of that? And also who would West Virginia hire then? So now we're

all of a sudden, what, behind on the coaching hiring cycle and we're jobbed by the NCAA. Where's West Virginia basketball stand in all this? So I think West Virginia basketball is going to be fine. They just ran a coaching search last year. Those pools are there. Ren Baker, the athletic director, has a background in basketball, which is pretty rare in modern college athletics. Most of these guys come through business or football. He came up as a basketball manager

and was actually a basketball coach. So he ran a full search last year. I think they'd be able to go and go pretty fast, quite frankly, because they've likely spoken to, within the last 11 months, everybody who would be at the forefront of their list. So I wouldn't think it would take much time to, to flip that and look like, you know, there's a,

you know, everybody's gonna want the Alabama job, the cowboy job, like Indiana is one of those jobs. So I don't think it's an indictment on West Virginia, they've certainly been aggressive in trying to keep him Pat. I just think I just know sometimes when you get called up you gotta go so we'll see you know we'll see in the next in the near future where Indiana turns. All right we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen the authority Pete Thamble have a great March of Advocates. Call it up. Get called up to Iowa you gotta go.. Yeah. All right. He was talking about Oh, I thought he meant both of them. No, no, he said in the air. They're both in the same

Indiana's like Alabama Cowboys is what he said. So I mean, I mean, I do understand because these people in this stick like if I didn't live in Indiana and I didn't marry into a Hoosier family, Indiana Hoosiers family, I don't think I would fully understand. These fuckers love the Indiana Hoosier basketball team. Which is why it has been such a heartbreaker for so long, which is why it gets so loud, because they haven't been good.

These people, the the parent the fathers and The father's father's and the mother's and the mother's mother's They came up with Bob Knight back like they have a basketball Hall of Fame here Bob Knight was obviously here the pinch the the Hoosier stripes meet I mean and you're talking about Basketball, you know the high school basketball here thousands and thousands in gyms around here. The high school state tournament very very big deal like they love hoops here. Before Peyton Manning got here this was a hoops and racing town in a hoops and racing state. Fully, fully. We like racing, we like the Indy 500 obviously. We got hundreds of thousands of people coming here. All the

teams are basically hubbed here. This is the home for an entire race league Pretty much we love it here take care of them here. Uh, and then also hoops. We love hoops here We got the hall of fame here. We got the hoosiers here the pacers, you know when reggie was going on everything it's like a hoop state, which is why signetti being able to win and is Pretty mind-boggling to be honest. That has never been even a thought that the Indiana football team was gonna be good and and nobody cared like nobody it was like a football team yeah. Yeah you're right. Couple hundred people yeah they didn't it was like is our basketball

team good or not like that was the... When did Bob Knight leave Indiana for real that's like he set the stage for he set the foundation I feel like obviously the movie Hoosiers back in the day. I don't know, have young kids seen Hoosiers though? Do they even know about it? They know about it, yes. And every kid in Indiana has a, Oh yeah.

Every single one of them. It doesn't matter what they're built like, what they look like, how many sports they play. Have an ability to shoot a ball. You'll just learn that if you go to an LA fitness or something you'll see some bum looking kid and then he gets a ball in a corner and that thing's going to go somehow and it's like oh it's

Indiana everybody here can shoot joining us now is a man who knows more about hoops than we do and we'll ask him about everything that the authority Pete Thammer just said. Ladies and gentlemen in front of the program now at this point you know I think we can say that from ESPN's college basketball analysis former coach in the ACC long time, Coach Seth Greenberg. What's up boys? Good time of the year now. It is active time of the year. I saw you on TV last night on a college game night. You guys were pulling different categories and spinning a wheel and giving takes with Zooming. I saw you on

Get Up This Morning which leads me to this. For those that didn't see this man on Get Up This Morning, this was Seth. It's a fascinating thought from Patino, and here's my Uncle Seth, Seth Greenberg, no relation, with thoughts on that. You know, Seth, we live in a world where the, where football drove conferences to do all sorts of things that made a lot of sense for financial reasons and positively no sense for any other reasons. Basketball on some level, I guess we could say, was something of a casualty of that. What do you make of the idea?

He said the words in basketball. What do you make of the idea of something like the ACC and Big East forming a conference together in basketball? I think it makes sense. forming a conference together in basketball. I think it makes sense. Two years ago I had a conversation with the people in the ACC office and exactly said that to them. They gotta get back to the roots. The ACC was built on college basketball.

I understand the money is in the football side of it. But you know what? You could create a super conference, the best conference in all of college basketball. You gotta give these schools the resources. But you know what? Merging the ACC and the Big East, think about the matchups you would have. They wouldn't be games, they'd be events. You'd get back to the old school rivalries of the old Big East, but then you'd bring in some new rivalries like a Connecticut against

North Carolina, Connecticut against Duke. To me, it makes sense. You've got to find a way to make it happen. And like Chip Kelly said this a couple months ago. He said what college athletics needs to do and this made a lot of sense. Regionalize everything else but football. If you regionalize everything else but football, to me that's a win for everyone. Okay Seth, you're the first person we're hearing it from the basketball world. Obviously we heard it from Chip in the football world How likely is that to happen? Because the biggie's still existing whenever the biggie's football kind of got rid of kind of leads me to think there is precedent for

Basketball being able to make their own decisions Do you think that's ever possible with the acc biggies for basketball because the more you talk about it And when patina mentioned it yesterday to us that was the first time I had heard of it And then my brain did the same thing you did We got unc and uconn happening at Madison Square Garden we got Duke taking on st. John's and like that the matchups are you know very what is the likelihood of that happening how slow does basketball move verse kind of football Seth? Basketball can move real quickly the problem is the football

element the football is the one that moves slowly because all these TV contracts are tied into football. So Pat, you've got a good voice. You can make this happen sooner than later. I mean, if you can get behind this, I mean, you could be like the guy behind changing the world of college athletics. Just by saying, wait a second, regionalized hoops and all the non-revenue sports. Obviously, hoops, not the non-revenue. And then let's take football, put it on its own island. Because you could play one football game a week and travel across country. You can't like, look, I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but like Stanford and Hal and the ACC,

I didn't take geography at Fairleigh Dickinson Harvard on the Hackensack, but they're not the ACC. I'm sorry. And you've got UCLA and USC going and playing Big Ten games. Come on, man I mean, it just doesn't make sense So like we've got to use common sense and then for the ACC first of all I don't know how they didn't bring you conning when they did expansion Stanford Cal you con like which one would you guys pick? Okay? I mean, I mean, I mean that doesn't make any sense

But to me the people go the ACC's got to get back to some way it's roots. They got four teams in the NCAA tournament this year. That's like sacrilegious. You think about ACC basketball, you think about the best teams and great rivalries and great programs. Why not find a way to adopt, partner with, or whatever you might want to call it, the biggies,

create this mega basketball conference, have all this inventory, share your revenue share, obviously football money is going to be taken out of it, and create something different, special, and think outside the box. Okay, so my question for you would be this. We talked to Patino later in that conversation, he talked about how St. John's doesn't have a football team, so the revenue share thing is going to be a lot to basketball and it's going to be a lot to these other sports. Do you think the ACC will ever be able to keep up with, like the Big Ten has a lot of money, okay? They have a lot of money. And they're putting it into football, I assume they're putting it into basketball and will only continue to

do so. The SEC is putting a lot of investment into its basketball. We talked to Greg Senke yesterday and he's like, there was a mission statement sent out that we need to be better at men's basketball. And they all kind of took it here to it. And now they're record breaking with the amount of teams they get in the tournament. Will the ACC ever be able to keep up with everybody else? Now I'm not saying Big East is underhanded

or anything like that, but Yukon, all the money's probably gonna be going to basketball as well. St. John's, same exact thing. The ACC, they still gotta compete against their football teams, right? Whenever it comes to the revenue share. Do they have enough NIL and money to be able to keep up with everybody else for the state of basketball, do you think?

I think they have the money. Are they willing to spend the money? Are they willing to make the investment? You know, Pat, it's like anything else. Your investment equals your expectation. If you want to be good at something, whether it's in a work or whether it's in in athletics, you got to invest in it, man, like you want to keep on changing coaches, great, you can hire another coach, don't give him

the resources he needs, and you're gonna have the same result. Like stupid people do the same things over and over and over again. Smart people, you know what they do, they look at things through a different prism and say, you know what, if we want to be good, we've got to make a change. And how we're going to do we got to invest, invest in infrastructure, invest in coaches and invest in NIL. Because without that, I don't care how good that coach is. Without that, you don't have the resources. You're not winning

Rick, Rick, but you know, he's got Rapoli. He's got the water vitamin man running around hanging out, dropping $100 bills. Come come on man. I mean like you know you I'd be a better I'd be a much better coach if I had a dude like that hanging on with me like hey let's go that dude's pretty good can we get him all right let's go let's get it done. Yeah that's good recruiting I think it's good tool but it's needed now you know like it is a necessity and I do wonder with some schools that are like historic if their boosters and their money people are gonna understand that they need

To pitch in it's not just name anymore. It is it is a lot that has to go into a lot of commitment I am that ACC Big East thing would be so cool. Yeah, that would be for basketball reasons. That would be Insane, hopefully they're able to get it done. Sounds like you should maybe be a commissioner as a entire thing. AJ has a question for you, coach. Coach, when you look at this year, the bracket, obviously we're entering a great time, a great time for you. Obviously it's fun to listen to you on TV. And when you would look at this, what games in this first round are you pointing out

that you want to watch, do you think some fireworks might have, not maybe a big upset, but maybe some exciting games that people may not be thinking about? You're the one person who enjoys listening to me, so I appreciate that. I do as well. We all do. Yeah, we all do.

We all do. It's fun. I think I appreciate that. You and my kids. You've got Oklahoma as a fascinating game. Obviously, you've got two time defending champions. Obviously, you have Danny. The one thing they struggle defending is the perimeter.

And Jeremiah Fears is a bad dude. He reminds me of Kyrie Irving. I mean, he can break people's ankles and get in the lane. They play three guards, which is going to, even though they're undersized, will put a lot of pressure on the defense, perimeter defense. If you kind of think that game is a really interesting game to watch just in terms of, you know, Danny's going to be able to score. It's where they can stop them. And then like even right below that Colorado State Memphis,

you know, a lot of money's on Memphis. Actually, I guess Memphis is being favored. Nick Clifford is a bad dude as well. He's 6'6". They play them all over the floor. Colorado State is really, really efficient offensively. They assist on about 60% of their field goals. More importantly, it's just facing and how they share the ball and play through this guy. Memphis, Penny's done a really good job with this team. Tyrese Hunter, one of his players, a lot of injuries in the NCAA tournament this year. He did not play in the conference tournament championship game. They need his leadership. But there's a dude on Memphis, PJ Haggerty. He is a stud. About 22 points a game, about eight rebounds, five assists, goes to the line about five times a game.

Like that dude is really different. He'll be a fun guy to watch. There are so many good matches. How about the conspiracy? Do you guys buy into conspiracies? Oh yeah, Boba Cunningham screwed over West Virginia. Yeah, Seth, we're in on it. Yeah, you're all in on it. Like, by the way, do you know what a lob is? Yeah, Seth, we're in on it. When you think about Bird. You're all in on it.

By the way, you know what a lob is? I'll tell you, the lob, West Virginia got beat by the lob, not getting in the tournament. Wins above the bubble. You see, look, quickly on West Virginia, you can spin that stuff any bitch way you want it. You could say the net's most important, because the wins against the field are most important. You can say quad one wins are most important. We need one way to

evaluate teams for the NCAA tournament because every single person in the room has their own opinion. And look, I know Bob, I think he's a really good guy, but you know, walking out of the room and saying he's not in the room when they're discussing Carolina, that's great. Breakfast, lunch or dinner, drinks after, I mean, and it's not like something that they would say, hey, you gotta vote for us. It would be more like, here's our leader. He's our fearless leader. He's the head of the committee.

I mean, how can we leave the squad out? And you know what they did was the team you guys should really be complaining about is Xavier. Well, I hate him so much. Xavier's one and nine in quad one. Yeah, I mean, so. Yeah, these guys stink yeah, I mean it is It is what it is. I mean you guys won two games without degrees

When you win at Kansas and you beat Iowa State, you're good. I was saying was number three in the country I believe at the time no, I don't want to get you wound up The governor's handling it says not enough. The governor's handling it, Seth. The governor's handling it all. Just wants a little bit more transparency, but it does feel like we have a lot of good matchups. It does feel like there's a lot of good storylines, which leads to AP Tone's question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, I wanted to ask it because I saw this floating around the internet that this is the one of the best tournaments ever, if not the best tournament ever, and they were using Ken Palm's rankings, and if people don't know, Ken Palm is a website that you know

basically calculates offensive defense efficiency and things like that and has four of the top six teams all time in his rankings with Duke Florida Houston and Auburn so is this accurate accurate that this could be or is one of the best tournament fields of all time yeah it could be because it's older. Think about the ages of these guys. I mean, a lot of these teams, you know, Mike Bray used to have to say, get old and stay old. Like, you've got, like Chad Baker-Mazara

would be like the oldest guy on the Oklahoma City Thunder. I mean, I mean, you look at Auburn's team, this fifth and sixth year seniors on all these teams. So these teams are older, they're more mature, they're more physical. like the SEC that Final Four the SEC Championship in Nashville that will be as good if not better than the Final Four we're gonna get in San Antonio. That's how good it was. Wow, wow, wow.

SEC SPN, Seth Greenberg, James Louise. No, no, no, hey, hey, hey, hey. Now, here's the deal, Pat. Everyone thinks I'm a homer for like John Calipari, which is my conspiracy thing. Calipari's self to play Rick Pitino. Imagine if it's Calipari and Pitino. That's the all-time conspiracy game humanly possible. The Gobble Ghoul.

Yeah. Some people say I hate Duke. Some people say I hate Carolina. So I'm in pretty good shape because I hate Carolina, so I'm in pretty good shape because I hate both Duke and Carolina and they hate each other so that puts me in a good place. Yeah, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. It seems like they both hate you. Maybe that'll be something that can rally them together. Exactly. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. I like that. I might have to steal that. I didn't create that.

No, no. Do not give me credit. That has been around a long time. I believe in political warfare it is something that is chit chat a. And I see it about me a lot. People come together around hating me, so that is a cool thing in my mentions. But Duke in North Carolina, completely opposite ends of the spectrum here, right? This Duke team's supposed to be the one. They're saying this is,

even the books are saying very good odds here. This Duke team, everybody seemingly believes. They are primed to just, I don't wanna say UConn this thing like you can did but seemingly being talked that way. I'm going to give you a little secret is another team that's going to you con this tournament. That's Florida. Yeah, you've been on Florida. Oh, I'm on Florida now like Duke

is like I love the Cooper flag. It's got to be healthy. Malik Brown's got to be able to play they need that experience in the front court. If he's out, he's got that shoulder injury. You're talking about an experienced player that can defend four and five. Terrific passer. Always in the right place. Made a couple threes against Carolina. I mean, but Florida, I joke around, they're no one's, Noah's Ark. They got two everything. I mean, they got two 6'11 big guys, Chinyalu. Just blocks every shot, carves out space, rebounds the ball, finishes, block shots, does everything you need.

They bring hand logman off the bench. Walter Clayton is the best guard in the tournament. And now we want to go deeper into the conspiracy. If Florida gets to the Elite Eight and St. John's gets to the Elite Eight, that's Rick Patino against Florida. Oh, by the way, Walter Clayton played for Rick Patino at Iona. You see, everything goes back to the Elite Eight, that's Rick Patino against Florida. Oh, by the way, Walter Clayton played for Rick Patino at Iona, you see, everything goes back to the experience. Yeah, and 11 hundred bucks, I believe,

is what was offered by Iona. Yeah, 11 hundred bucks. Yeah, it's a cat hurt coach. And a couple of cups, yeah, and a couple of t-shirts. And a chance to be coached by Rick Patino, who after talking to him yesterday, we'd like to talk to him more. Hey, Anton, hey, Anton.

Terrible dude. Yeah, a lot of paisans in this college basketball. A lot of Jewish coaches of America, too. By the way, the Jewish coaches have taken on, I'm glad you brought that up, Anton. Derebral dude. Yeah. A lot of Paisans in this college basketball. A lot of Jewish coaches of America too. By the way, the Jewish coaches have taken over. I'm glad you brought that up, Pat. The Jewish guys only have three to four coaches on the number one line. That's all. It's no big thing.

Yeah, but I heard. I mean, I might make a comeback. Not a bad idea, especially if you got a little pulley in your corner like you talked about. I saw that account, Jewish Coaches of America. Is that the, is that the? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. JCA. Yeah, I saw that picture. coaches of America is that the is that the oh yeah yeah yeah yeah JCA yeah so that we can make you an honorary member now I mean if you like mazel shalom I'm not a coach I'm not good enough coach you know I don't have the patience in there but I did appreciate

the fact you know it's like we gotta stick together and then I wonder if the Italians were like yeah we'll meet but we ain't fucking showing anybody. That's a little bit of the difference here. I do respect and appreciate all of that. Con man has a question for you coach. Yeah, coach. What do you think is the most important aspect when it comes to one singular part of the game to make a run in March?

You know, Rick Patino mentioned yesterday, you know, you need some luck or maybe that was Izzo, but either way they mentioned, you know, luck, you need some of that during March, especially, you know, the ball bouncing one way or the other. But is it shooting? Is it defense? Is it kind of, you know, getting a specific possession correctly? What do you think is the most important thing when it comes to making a run to the final four? Besides having dudes, you need a guy at the end of the game. You can give the ball to him, to to go make a play. Because there's a more level playing show. All the teams in the tournament expect to win.

And all the teams in the tournament have won a ton of games when you get past the first round. And I think you need a guy at the end of the game to give the ball to to go make a play. Now the thing that complements that is do you have a style of play that's difficult to prepare for the second day of the tournament? Whether it's the second day of the first round, the second day going to the final four, or the second day in the championship game. Because styles make fights, and if you have a style of play that's hard to prepare for

in a short period of time, that's an advantage. It's a huge advantage. So I'd say style of play, imposing your identity on the game. No different than football. And then the other thing is having a dude. Like, do you have a guy at the end of the shot clock you can give that ball to? And like play breaks down and he goes and makes a play. Do you have a Patrick Malmsteen? These are all the stories we were just talking about from previous March Madness. That Doug Eater kid came out of nowhere.

He was a guy. Henderson was a guy out of nowhere. Burns like. How about you get it over at Oakland last year? Golkey. Yeah, we talked about him as well. Yeah, it's like those are the dudes that you're talking about. Like.

Yeah, you got to have a closer. And that's how we find out and learn about these schools and these players. And then we never talk about them ever again. Yeah. It's kind of a wonderful time. It's so much fun. It is a wonderful time. Things that will be talked about is if somebody big goes down early. What a bummer. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, coach, when you look at all of the national title contenders going into this, which one of them do you think got the worst draw and is most susceptible to upset within like

the first couple days of the tournament? The overall number one seed got screwed. I mean, I mean, it's the way you can't explain it anyway. I mean, Auburn, now look, they lost three to last four, but their overall number one seed, I mean, they're gonna have to play Michigan to get to it to advance. Now, Michigan just won the Big Ten tournament. Michigan's got two 6'11", seven-foot guys, and Golden and Danny Wolfe, all right? Danny Wolfe's like, he's a lottery pick. He's a homeless Larry Bird in a lot of ways. You can run your offense through him.

The guy is really, really different. They put those two guys in a ball screen together, and it becomes a absolute problem in terms of how you're gonna guard it. They got a kid named Trey Donaldson, a point guard, who made that big shot against Maryland at the end of the game another Conspiracy by the way, because they could potentially play Auburn and Michigan could play now the Michigan point guard was the Auburn point guard last year conspiracies

What's going on behind the scenes here? I mean behind the scenes here, but uh, I like this Michigan team They got enough guys who can make shots They play really fast Golden gets baskets around the basket the kid wolf He really is a match a problem the only concern for Michigan They get a little loose with the ball, but I think they've got the toughest Second round game in the tournament even even if even after if they win their first game They get a Creighton team. Like Creighton is good. The big kid, Kalkbrenner, he's like a one man zone. They play fast, a really good passing team,

sneaky defensive team because of stylistically. So I think Auburn got the toughest one. I'd say the other one, toughest one, second would be used to just cause Tennessee, they're so hard to play against Tennessee. They're so physical and tough. They get, that SEC championship game was fun to watch. Did see your Florida team do what Florida does though.

You know, but I think everybody came away from that game and they're like, Tennessee, real deal. How do you feel about all these teams that played in conference finals and then they have to turn around and play the earliest? Cause I heard there were some coaches and some people that are like, yeah, definitely bummed we didn't win the conference tournament,

but also we got an extra five, six days before the big game, you know, in the tournament. Is that a common conversation amongst coaches about the conference tournament? It is, like guys want to win championships, you want to win championships. You know, hey, players want to win championships,

it's probably with NIL, they got bonuses bought into winning championships or advancing even in the conference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. Things are written. Having said that, yeah, I mean, like, especially the guys who play on Sunday, like those five championships that were decided Sunday. If you have a quick turnaround, you go Sunday, Thursday. I mean, you think about football guys who used to routine, you know, what day,

you know, what day you're in pads, what day you're out of pads. Well, so is basketball. So you get back on day you're in pads, what day you're out of pads, so it's basketball. So you get back on Sunday after your championship game, you find out who you're playing, you have a team meeting, your coaches scatter because you're in a four team bracket basically, you're not worried about a 68 team field, you're worried about the four teams in your bracket, all right, your assistant coaches are scurrying around, putting together scouting reports, your video guy's losing his brain, and you're locked in. But then Monday is film, concept work.

Tuesday you're on a plane probably. If you're playing Thursday, go into your site. So Tuesday you practice at home. Tuesday afternoon you probably fly into the site. You get there, you have dinner, you do film again. Wednesday you got that practice on your site. And Thursday you're hooping. So like in recovery time, it's real,

especially if you go and set to the West Coast. Yeah, long flight changes everything. You get set to the West Coast, it changes a lot. Like, I mean, there are a lot of interesting teams going to the West Coast. I mean, in the West, UConn's gotta go cross country, they lost early. You know, Florida played on Sunday. I'm not sure exactly what day they're playing their first game. So,

you know, those things come into play. But I do think that we're so much more aware of taking care of players in terms of hydration, rest, load management, not load management, load management college is recovery days. Like Jay Wright started the recovery day or at least talking about it, which means basically recovery days is walk through skill work, shooting, ice, weights, and ice bath. And he started that he was really big into that. And he was one of the first guys, my daughter played volleyball at the Illinois side. And Jason dear, dear friend. So I go watch the person all the time and he he is he is amazing on nutrition like those guys in their meals like

Breakfast lunch and dinner like he they don't eat put any crap in their bodies. It'd be nice to be jacked and rocked up It would be nice to unfortunately this body's beyond repair. No, I think you got a chance I think especially hey the head looks very round Dolman Dolman the dome is in good shape. Yeah, it's a little dust on the dome and send me out Let me talk about ball. Okay. Yeah, and we appreciate the fact that you are You're teaching us a lot about this year's particular ball now with that being said AJ has the last question for you coach Yeah coach We hear about a team like BYU that relies on the three so much.

Do teams like this, like other than BYU, but teams around this tournament that rely on the three ball so much, do they worry you possibly if they go cold for a game or two that they get knocked out? Yeah, I mean, 100%. But at the BYU, it's not just their shooting threes, it's how they get them.

They get them with their spacing, they get them with step up ball screens, they get them with shallow cuts and slot drives and kick outs and they put you in rotation. So it's how they get them, but that's who they are. Like, here's the thing, we're like, who are you and how do you win? I don't care what sport you play.

Like, who are you and how, if you could impose that identity, and all of a sudden, now, like, if you're a really great transition team, what does that do to your defense? All right, you're not sending as many guys to the offensive glass. Because if you send a bunch of guys to the offensive glass, then you can't set your defense, people in transition,

and they're getting shots you want. So like, teams like that, people don't, there's a residual effect of that's playing style. That is interesting. Like, shooting all those threes, what does that create? Long rebounds.

All right, so now we're used to like hitting and going rebound the ball rebound ball now you're hitting that thing might be flying over the top of your head Yeah, so imposing identity on the game. So, you know, I've Ryan Odom plays them But he's my former assistant he's the coach of VCU Like we spent a bunch of time yesterday talking about how they're gonna defend the ball screens How much pressure they can put on and then making sure they cover what? We used to call the elbows and the blocks the guards have to come back and rebound instead of leaking out screens, how much pressure they can put on, and then making sure they cover what we used to call the elbows and the blocks. The guards have to come back and rebound. Instead of leaking out those guards, you can test the shot. You've got to come back and get ready

to help rebound the ball because most of those rebounds are going to come either off the corners or back. So, you know, if you can impose your identity on the game, even though you're not making a ton, you got to make some like cal parry had a great line you don't have to make them all but you can't miss them all yeah but some of those shooting teams they go ice cold and i'm only saying that from like watching west virginia for a while west virginia for a while there was a three-point shooting team and boy when they were falling you knew early you knew like the first five minutes what the night was going to be like electrifying and then whenever it was a miss it was like this one's going to be a grind and then inevitably that was their fate Always they would get cold now

They make it a long way But they would get cold on the wrong night and then the other team would be able to just kind of make most of it West Virginia is in the topic of discussion right now coach DeVries. Can you tell me about him and Is Indiana one of those jobs we live here in Indiana? We understand how the people feel about Hoosiers and the basketball and basketball as a whole. Is that one of those jobs where DeVries, like coaches dream of coaching?

If he can get it, he's gotta take it. Okay, that's how you feel. I mean, if he gets it, he's gotta get it. The Iowa thing, I'm not so sure, because it's almost a rebuild, but Indiana, you've got a built in base recruiting opportunity. I'm sure the money would be great, but let me tell you this, along with that, and you

guys know because you guys are right there, the static around the program is ridiculous. And you don't answer to just alumni, you answer to the whole state. So you're giving yourself over to the state. That's basically what you're doing. Because people in Indiana, they all think that they invented the game and they understand basketball. Everyone is coaching your team along with you. Does he want to deal with that?

But the opportunity to get better, quicker. Look, they had big time NIL, but they just swung and missed. You got to get winning dudes like you gotta get winning Right this whole thing about collecting talent you got a roster construction and putting together a team Yeah, is as important as the number of like great players because the players don't fit it is what it is, but Coach coach they want to see this right here. That's what they want to see. That's what they want to see. That is what they want. That is legitimately what they want.

They need to be able to make big shots, but we're moving the ball. We are, and we are, and next time around, we are right back into this thing. It's like, that is how the Indiana folks, you're talking about everybody in Indiana thinks they invented basketball, they know basketball. That's because they pay attention and it's like this is how we play basketball here. And you talked about collecting talent and building a roster that that is not

just in basketball, that's in football as well. How important is a culture man? It feels like we really get to see culture here during this March Madness as well right because adversity is coming and then how can you continue to go? How important is that culture in basketball? Because I, outside looking in, have never been in a basketball locker room or a basketball team setting. It seems like to me it's like we just got to keep the two guys happy and then everything else is good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I tell you, you've been in a lot, all you guys have been in locker rooms. Of course. Let me ask you a question. You're only as good as your locker room, yes or no?

Yes. You got a crappy locker room, you got no shot? Agreed. So like you're only as good as your locker room. So culture and that's why Florida, what they've done is they've gone into Portland, got multi-year portal guys. So it's not a six month rental. So now they develop an identity, they develop a culture, they have an investment. But yeah, I mean, like you're always good at your locker room. You have a bad locker room, like that Tennessee team, they got a great locker room,

because it's the Kai Ziegler, May Chack, and they coach their locker room. If you don't have a dude coaching your locker room, it's like the meeting after the meeting. Let me ask you this, Pat, you know, you give speeches, I'm sure, places, and then you do your thing. And then, you know, everyone gets up, claps, wonderful,

they go to the bathroom, and they either say like that, Pat Maxby, he's full of crap, or they say like, damn, holy mackerel, that was awesome, you know that? And here's the deal, that's no different than you speak to your team at the end of practice, and you say like X, Y, and Z, and those dudes go back in the locker room, and they say, or maybe you gave them a real hard practice,

and you were like up their ass really, really hard, and challenging them, and pushing them, and like, you know, you get the wrong guy walking back in the locker room, and coach, man, he's full of it, man. What's he talking about? We're practicing too hard. I mean, what does he expect from us? And then, exactly, it blows up.

So, like, you've got to have locker room, man. I mean, like, it's not just one. You've got to have a voice in the locker room to have one of those guys go sideways. He snatches that guy. Like, one of your guys, Sam Clancy, played for me at Pitt. Of course. Absolutely love Sam Clancy. played for me at Pitt. Of course. Absolutely love Sam Clancy.

First year at Pitt, we have a good team, a little disjointed, and we lost a couple games, and we had a couple guys called Sam. I literally said, Sam, like that's you, man. Like you're the biggest man, it's a dude, that's you. True story. Next day, I'm walking in the change for practice. 100%. Sam's got, I'm not gonna mention kid practice 100% Sam's got I'm not gonna mention kids name

He's got some dude up against the wall like he's on a hanger and he go and he was saying like this is my last time Man, I want to play Nancy double a tournament get your crap, right? That's awesome. Okay. We're pretty good after that. Yeah Was a user it sounds like what a I love that. And what you're saying about talking to players and policing their locker room, we do a lot of that on this particular show, and it's pissed off some people in some locker rooms because there's some traits that maybe happen for some teams. It's like, hey, you can draft good players, you can coach good players, but the players got to control what the expectations are and the standard is

I love to hear that that that's also in basketball hey you're the man thank you for joining us today and we can't wait to talk thanks guys appreciate you guys you got it man enjoy the games we will we hey who's winning tonight who's winning tonight Alabama State and uh I'll tell you here's the deal as crazy it is I'm gonna give you I'll give you two seconds Carolina's gonna win this game they can get Ole Miss because you know what here's the deal. As crazy it is, I'm going to give you two seconds. Carolina's going to win this game. They can beat Ole Miss. Because you know what? Here's the deal. They shouldn't have been in.

All right, that's just my opinion. 1 and 12 is not good enough. But yet, when the tournament starts, they are good enough to win this game against San Diego State, who struggled to score, but is great defensively. And because Ole Miss doesn't have a legitimate big day, they're going to have a shot at Ole Miss, who I really like, because they don't turn it over.

And Chris Beard is an absolutely great dude. But to me, they don't have a bad draw to win a couple of games. He's a dog, he's a great coach. We appreciate the hell out of you ladies and gentlemen, Coach Seth Greenberg. Yeah, coach! Oh!

I think he was treated unfairly in that whole thing. Yeah, well. There was unfairly in that whole thing. Yeah There was no response to that whole thing. He did you hear him give a Give a response to somebody that said some pundit or somebody said to his team was fraudulent I did see that and he he next person asked a question And goes that's good question. Let me get back to this real quick He rattles off I'm like that was epic. I got a chance to watch Chris Beard work, you know, down there in Texas. His boys ride for him, man. I mean, that is just his assistant coaches, his players, they ride for him. And he really much like that's his style too. Like,

hey, let's go do this. He's got a lot of moxie. He goes Ole Miss. All of a sudden, now they're back in the conversation. That was kind of how it was gonna go I think no matter where happened and how it ended at Texas was very loud at one half and then nothing ever Exactly on the other side and then you know Kind of fucked up, but that's the world that we live in right and then now he's got the guys rolling in this time Yeah, I mean Texas you would assume still has some beard in it because they're you you know, in the tournament again, I believe, or they're in a playing game, one or the other two, but Are they top five whenever he was there? Yeah, they're very good. Somebody's tell Seth what coincidence or sorry, conspiracy. Yeah, but what coincidence means, because I think a lot of his conspiracies are coincidences. I thought he was saying conspiracy because he talks like he likes those teams and like ESPN is deciding things So I think I thought he was talking about that then he could sit

like Continued to say it. Yeah, like a considerable guy played for this team last year. It's a conspiracy. No, no, no, Seth That's a coincidence. Yeah, but I was he meaning like they took all the information over here Yeah, or I thought he means like hey, no the The tv people want these people they they know these are good matchups They're gonna try to do whatever they can to get these matchups. So it's So he goes conspiracy this guy played here Uh, yeah, that's what I took it out. Okay. Hey, thank you for that. Thank you for that

That's why the calipari and patino. Yeah, because while we were here while we were here and he was on the full screen We were all going I What the does he know TV conspiracy it is Because he hears it just like ice the college basketball Pundits and media people hear it just as much I assume as the college football people do like Kirk Herbstree There was the one deciding who was playing where remember and he was getting murdered for the I assume Seth gets a lot of heat because he's part of that college game day show Okay, yeah, it is a lot of conspiracies now that I think about it college basketball might have more of them than college football Yeah, hey governor Morrissey. Okay, look into that too. Yeah, he will he already is

He's good at the bottom of that part of it. You know, that is something that we need to take place He's getting to the bottom of that part of it. You know, that is something that we need to take place Okay, AJ you need to give us an update cuz there's a new update. It's a new day on Aaron Rodgers He's basically waiting out the Minnesota Vikings tell him what they want to do They're trying to figure out what they want to do. That's the newest report from scoopage Scoop City with Diana Rossini and chase Daniels obviously Diana Rossini an insider with the athletic So this is another day. It's another piece of information You know a week ago it was he's either going to the Giants or Steelers and he's holding them hostage now It's like well the Vikings now in the game, but at one point it was the Vikings aren't in the game now

They're the game so it feels like a lot of Hail Mary's yeah, Santa six a lot of hell marriage. Yeah, Santa six. A lot of, maybe that's the case, but that also could be because a lot of people are getting a lot of different information and a lot of people could have the information. Now speaking of having information, you're probably the only one that's got it. What's happening and what should we look into at this point with Aaron Rodgers? Well, I mean, so first off, I have not reached out a figure. He'll reach out if he wants to talk about this whole situation with me. But I go back to what I said yesterday, like what could he possibly be doing?

Obviously he's got multiple teams that want him to come in. There's, there's spots open, but I just don't know with the whole Viking situation, if that's truly a thing, wouldn't they say something if it was not a thing? They'd come out and say JJ is our guy. That's all I could think. They could also say, we're not your puppet. We're not answering every single, I mean, there's just. Yeah. I don't think anybody has a clue.

They want to show faith in their guy that they could stand up and say, hey, no, JJ is our guy. We're not going after him. I like AJ saying, yeah, it's on the Vikings. That's what we like. Cam Heywood said, you either play for the Steelers or you don't, pup.

It's getting loud, but that's football we like. Cam Heywood said, you either play for the Steelers or you don't, pup. It's getting loud, but that's football, baby. Whoosh. Whoosh. Whoosh. Whoosh. Whoosh. Whoosh. Whoosh.

Whoosh. Madness! Almost happened in the bathroom. AJ Hawk is here, obviously. Shout out to the Ohio State legend. We'll be talking about Ohio State in a matter of moments. One half of the hammer. Done.

Cowboys, AP Toners here. Good to see you, Tony. Nice to see you. I like the hat hoodie matching you know yeah I don't always I kind of like to you know clash but I've really just been rocking the tan lately so no really no yeah you look great nice trip to the woods this past weekend we'll have you buzzing and glowing some would say the toxic that was here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor Ty a little bit of a buzzer beater there for our friend Boston Connor yeah Ty, a little bit of a buzzer beater there

for our friend Boston Connor. Yeah, anytime Connor has to squeeze out a poop in one of the breaks, usually it's not a quick, quick shot. Hey, let's get off this thing. He dropped an absolute nuke in there and I was thinking he might be gone for 10, 15 minutes. He was sprinting as the countdown was happening.

He was sprinting across this basketball court and sat down literally at the exact time that the camera came on. That was wonderful timing by you, your bladder and your butt. I think you should be pretty proud of yourself. Sometimes things just line up for me, you know, and it seems as though during that break it did and yeah, I was worried deep down maybe, maybe I was going to come back to you guys talking up here and I was going to have to take that walk of shame, but you know, some

things just work out. Yeah, especially when you dress that good. AJ did you see this fit on this man? This is the best outfit he's ever worn. Yeah can we see the pants? So that's is that a matching jumpsuit you're wearing? No no no this is a sweatshirt from a certain company. These shoes don't really fit but they're free so as I wear them. He wears a half-size too small shoe. Yeah Every day can stay light on my feet. It's helped my ping-pong game actually Yeah, ping-pong is a good battle every day you and Foxy have been certainly jousting over there But he dressed good today

And I think that's why the gods, you know kind of blessed you with a moment there to make it back in time Was hoping very very much though for a walk of shame. Yeah. I, yeah. I was ready for it as I was in the bathroom. I was like, okay, let's just see where we're at because I didn't hear anybody talking out here. I figured we were somewhere close to the show, to the program. There was a nice little social gathering that happens during the break time.

Oh yeah, that's awesome. Quick sprint to the bathroom, then a nice conversation about everything going on. Did he say, a little bit of that, hey, I just checked my phone. Did you know that he said, I almost missed that? Hey, I just checked my phone. Did you know that he said I'm going to miss that? You know, some people slip some stuff by us. Funded late talking about a lot of college basketball.

I have no idea if it was good coverage of college basketball or bad coverage of college basketball, but I do know we covered college basketball. And I feel like we're doing what we're supposed to do in the sports world in the sports media world at this exact time. Because to be clear when I go home, obviously hanging out with baby girl, hanging out with the wife, when baby girl goes to bed and we're, you know, in front of a TV, I'm trying to find as much information as I can about this March Madness. That is all I'm trying to do. So literally at night, I'm thinking to myself, there needs to be more, like, this is going to take over our entire lives here. Without a doubt, pumped. Every single year, it takes over everything. I mean, it's only thing that's on television,

only thing that's being talked about, only headlines, and everybody's paying attention to it. I mean, this is just what it is. In some years we go in and I feel like I'm unprepared. You know, I feel like I have no clue what is happening. So this year, I thought that we should at least do a little bit of research. Shout out to everybody that's come by it made us

smarter but you know is oh fucking Seth Greenberg yeah I mean he has been phenomenal in this entire thing yeah he's incredible especially when you look at his resume you know I feel like sometimes we have people on that maybe you're younger in the in the entire thing like he's been he coached for 60 years like if anybody knows anything about college basketball, it's him. And he was excited to come on the show. Very rare. Yeah. Very rare.

It is nice. Which is, you know, that's a cool thing. He loves ball. Seth Greenberg loves ball. And that comes across when you talk to that guy. He absolutely loves it. And that's all we, you know. That's all that matters, right?

All we need is you tell us what the shit we need to look at. That's right. We respect your brain we like how much you love ball there's some people that obviously think you're wrong sometimes you're on TV but for us what you're saying right now gospel shout out Florida one of SEC as soon as he told me it was gonna happen. Mm-hmm. He literally was like Florida they're gonna do this entire thing the SEC best conference by far gave us that information a week beforehand 14 SEC teams in the thing break the records like this guy knows BYU this team could have a chance to go on the entire run in this it's like everything he has kind of said to us

Has it I can't remember all the names as you there's a Haggerty somewhere who is Memphis I believe Haggerty of Memphis, I can't wait to watch it. He keeps it was Florida comparing to Kyrie. I don't know. Fears. Outside yeah. Jeremiah Fears at Oklahoma. Yeah because he can move now you know he can move. On a string. Yeah and Yukon you know they got a little bit of trouble there because they can't defend the perimeter. There it is. I believe is the conversation. Yeah so we will take. Florida is like Noah's Ark right? Florida is like Noah's Ark they got two of everyone. Do everything. So whenever you see two guys down there yeah they got them. You're not seeing things with's Ark they got two of everyone. So whenever you see two guys down there yeah they got them. You're not seeing things with your eyes they got two of everything and then Michigan this team

they got this wolf cat. Yeah. This guy howls bro. Homeless Larry. Yeah he'll take off the glass. He'll go outside. Lottery pick. Yeah I mean a tough draw this Auburn team. And then they got this guy conspiracy former What was it? former Florida former Auburn guard Oh, yeah, you're talking about Clayton down there for his formerly I own a now Tino's guys St. John conspiracy conspiracies I mean they're all over place Italians taking each other on. Yeah, I just learned we listen pretty well. I think so I think we I think that is the difference between our particular program.

We are in the moment. You know, we don't have teleprompter questions that are right in front of it. Depending on who's on and what we're talking about. Yeah, I mean, there is a little bit of distraction that potentially happens. There has been basketball shots shot on this particular hoop whenever somebody takes up a full screen. Sure. Sometimes it's like, hey, we got another one to talk about. Why don't you come in here? We're gonna ask you six, seven questions, and we're gonna let you run. For two weeks. Yep. Yeah, there's some talkers that come on here. One time you were breaking news during someone's interview, I forget who was on, but you were actually walking on the gym court trying to find some breaking news for us. Yeah, that's pretty, I mean, there's some magic that

takes place behind the scenes here, but there's a lot of doofuses going, all right, I'm bored with this guy, or the fans, I assume they are, we got to show some respect We can't just kick him off like this guy in five ten minutes good person bad day bad day So it's at least entertain ourselves around here, but shout out to Seth. We've enjoyed his comments Faso booked less need. Yeah. Hell. Yeah. Nice. How about that? He was good. He was really good Faso did the connector Faso did that? Yeah, it, yeah. He knew somebody did something, sent a thing. Now we got a, whistling It's like, thank you.

And the way he speaks, awesome. I mean, that was the parameters of an agreement, like that whole, his angle in which he approaches things. Heavy lifter in high school, he said, makes sense with the way he approaches some things. He don't like the safety bar man, I know that. You have one at the house? No I don't, but it does kind of take some strain

off your knees and your back if you use that when you hold on to the front. Like there's a use to it, but no I love putting the bar on my back, you gotta load your spine, I like that. You're still squatting? Yeah, have to. Everybody's scared of losing your cakes, I like that. You're still squatting? Yeah, I have to. Everybody's scared of losing your cakes, you know that?

Not everybody. You're the greatest. We've seen the Ozempic just take everybody's cheeks. I think that- Just lift. If the people are gonna take it, just lift weights on it. Like you're allowed to lift if you take that stuff. Yeah, here's the thing. Go ahead.

People who are taking Ozempic, not real big lifters. Yeah, taking a Zempic too, not have to really change much, but lose weight. That's kind of why it's the cheat code. Yeah, that is what it's... Semi-glute-tide, wow, this thing just kind of... you do whatever you want. Yeah. And you're just going to lose weight. You're not going to want to eat as much. You might not feel as good all the time, but yeah, you're going to lose weight quick.

Talk about 20% of your body weight. You want to knock off 20% of your body weight? How does that sound? How's a brand new life? What? But it does make you lose your butt cheeks and everything else. Yeah. You know, you kind of start looking.

But you can't, not everybody, but it seems like one of the side effects of the Ozempic that is not being chatted about is you kind of look like a, your body just kind of, you you know starts kind of with it because I think it attacks your muscles too. I think is like the so you gotta you gotta keep working out You gotta keep working out. I agree, but I'm happy they figured that out for people. Yeah, but you're here legit I'm happy that happened because there was people that were just Wasting away because they got too heavy and then yeah, they're disciplined Maybe not as great, but they also maybe they get to a point where they want to change it. It's like

You're staring down five years of commitment here And it's like too scary too daunting of a task almost so the fact that medicine was able to figure out something to get people Back into being You know potentially active and living their life again. That's good, but you lose your cheeks You're gonna lose your cheeks though. You're gonna lose your cheeks. It's gonna happen. I don't think you should be putting a metal bar on your spine like AJ's doing.

Get that safety rack. I'm definitely good. I realized I put the bar low. When I got to the Packers, I realized like, when I do squats, I put the bar pretty low on my back, like not right on the top of your neck. I, I, I guess that's an Ohio thing. My strength coach like, oh yeah, it's like a,

for some reason kids from Ohio do that. And is that because you don't want it to be right on the bone at the top Yeah, I think I was a lower guy too Yeah, cuz some people do put it right like a right in your spine that bone I'm like I can that might feel like well down much farther down than other guys I never lifted in high school and then I get to college with Mike Barwas. Okay, then we're lifting Okay, we're listening to our choice. We are lifting very hard very rapidly We're moving a lot of weight and it was awesome Like it was a a fun time but like squatting for the first time like actually

I was in so much pain in front of everybody couldn't couldn't though, you know couldn't my legs very strong upper body. Not that strong But spine bone not calloused enough to just have a fucking metal bar just sitting on top of it So I had to grit and bear through that that was like a tough six seven months of just that thing Sitting on there every single time so I moved that down lower, too I started doing lower but then your arms much more important to the entire process. I mean the arms Hey, we're working together with this thing now because if that fucker slides move you look like the biggest asshole You're a fool of all time. There's a happy, happy medium. That's how you, it makes it easier to dump the heavyweights.

Back in the day when you're doing one rep max, you dump it, you run out from, you run out in front, it drops onto the safety rack. Yeah, we never dump it. We were never dumping racks. So we were never doing that. Hey, did you still max squat? No way you'd know. No chance.

No, I would die. What are you doing? Like 225 for a bunch or? I mean, depending on how I feel at the moment, but at 275 for, you know, no chance now die. What are you doing like 225 for a bunch or I Mean depending on how I feel at the moment But I had 275 for you know a good amount of reps then go up 315 go go heavy if I need to like no high threes. Oh, yeah, you talked to Tim T So Jack so Jack Timmy, yeah, we're not lifting for reps So Jack, Timmy. Yeah.

We're not lifting for reps. You're right. As we said, protein. Yeah, verbatim. And R is all Tim Tebow's on. He is so jacked. Yeah. Is he trying to get into one of those shows things?

He could. He should. He was in the show for a bit. Remember when he was just hitting dingers in those minor league fields? Yeah, robbing home runs. He had like 67. That was kind of his downfall.

What was it? He robbed too many home runs. No, he was, you know, taking headers on fly balls. No. Cans of corn that he can't really do. I hadn't played in 15 years. No, I know. I was trying to get back into the sport.

He was under immense spotlight. You know what he should do is he should play like the competitive softball, because he'd hit it fucking 10,000 feet. Brother, I did the Oklahoma softball thing? Yeah. Oh, you're talking about slow pitch or fast pitch? Yeah, slow pitch.

Yeah, slow pitch, like that the old dudes are playing, hitting it 7,000 miles an hour on a line. Hey, Stu Rolnick pitching for the Big Dogs bar in Plumboro. Sure. He can throw a knuckler. Yeah, I bet. He can throw a knuckler. Don't think that ball is just coming up and coming down.

I'm from Stu. That thing, ooh, we got a little shake on that thing, a little bit Don't think that ball is just coming up and coming down. I'm from Stu. That thing, ooh, we got a little shake on that thing, a little bit of bake on that thing. I did a fast pitch thing with those Oklahoma ladies. Oh yeah, that's impossible. That's impossible. No chance. What, dude?

That thing started at my shins and then was at my face before it, they call it the riser. And they say the only way you can beat it is you don't swing because it's not gonna be a strike but boy the entire time that thing looks like it's coming right in there and then boom right off your face pretty much and this lady I don't remember her name like she transferred in from North Carolina I think I'm not they were a great team a lot of moxie on that team yeah a lot of moxie champions that team. Yeah. A lot of moxie. Champions. A lot of games. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Absolutely. I guess so. But they were throwing that shit and watching,

it just gets there so quick, you know, cause it's so 45 feet or whatever. 48 feet, right? Or 45. Yeah. It's shorter, obviously very short, but like the motion too is almost like mess cause you're like, you're like watching the motion, you know? So if you've never seen anything, and I was lucky because like punt snaps They kind of throw from under here and they have to find the laces So like I was kind of a little comfortable with but the first couple of times I sat in there I'm like, I don't know how anybody hits this thing ever and I finally make contact but it was shit It was absolute shit those fast. Those are hard. Those are a how do MLB guys do gets a great

I assume what they do cause the ball is bigger. So I would assume they would help out. Yeah, and I would assume so because those guys, even though it is closer, like you're, I mean, they're, they're facing guys like, you know, skeins who were throwing like 102, like your reaction time still has to be pretty fucking good. College guys though, college dudes struggling

with fast pitch. Like the elite guys, probably not, but I bet a lot of dudes would because it is,'re just not used 45 48 like that is your reaction time has to be so quick. The ball movement was insane though. That thing was like and I think because it's bigger more surface area can actually potentially a little bit more. Right. A little bit more movement on that thing, you know, but it looks very good until about right here and then it's and if you do square one of Those up like you're hitting Homer because the the fields are you know 200 feet around so it's like if you make good contact You're you're giving it a ride. It's a great sport. I enjoyed it. It was electric and they pack out of stadium out there

Oh, yeah, so I assume the environment is one and that's that's always something that happens You know Omaha takes place that softball one happens and we watch it for like two weeks Yep, or a week and whatever like that's electrifying and then we move on you know, and then I step in a batter's box I watch a shit. I'm like, geez Louise Oklahoma's gonna win again. I think from what I saw they are reloaded got they got And Patty gas will fight you. Yes. Yeah, she's a dog baseball started today The MLB started its actual season today I don't know if you know that tie what the hell happened in Japan. Yeah, the Tokyo series

so the Dodgers and the Cubs played obviously Shohei and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, but they also signed Roki Sasaki So like basically all the best players in Japan play for the Dodgers right now So it kind of makes sense. Hey, we'll go over a little bit early and kind of start the season this way. It's a big deal to be able to give back to the people in Japan. It's the first time ever that two Japanese pitchers started an opening day for the MLB because obviously he changed his name because he just wants to go by Mike.

We had him on the show. Imanaga for the Cubs was the starting pitcher so it is kind of weird because they they start just Mike Imanaga Yeah, you don't remember that he basically he's like I just want to be one of the guys in the clubhouse Okay, I don't want to be so on my nameplate. Just fucking call me Mike I don't need people messing up my name or anything like that. I love Mike. Shota Imanaga is a great name. Mike also a good name. But he was just like, you know what? I kinda like Mike. So just call me Mike. So Mike Imanaga took on Yamamoto. Correct. Did he change his name or no? No, he is Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Shohei still, uh, Shohei Shohei. Yeah, he, you know, the thing that if you're

a casual, you know, watcher of baseball, the thing that, I mean, obviously everyone knows about Shohei, but he's so fun to watch because he tries, he tries to hit a home, he swings so violently every single time, no matter what. I mean, you know, it's just a, you know, run of the mill single, but boy, did he hit the fucking- 500 miles an miles an hour. He hits it so hard He had a double later Imanaga actually threw four innings of No hit ball and for whatever reason the Cubs decided to take him out after 69 pitches They said hey 70 pitches is gonna be kind of your mark

We're gonna you're gonna be done after that Of course, they go to the bullpen and then boom the Dodgers put up four runs almost immediately They lose the game. So it's kind of one of the classic Cubs yeah classic cubbies and that's what a lot of people were saying like You know awesome that the Cubs could give us our first bonehead Decision of the MLB season so early in Japan. This guy's there in front of his you know He's back home a lot of fans there. He's pitching unbelievable. He had four walks, so his pitch count was getting up a little bit, but they hadn't got

a hit off him, you know, and then they decided to yank him. And obviously the Dodgers right as they yank him, boom, they just fucking attack the bullpen pitcher, the relief pitcher and put up four runs almost instantly win the game. We got another game tomorrow who Roki Sasaki, the other big like, you know, kind of the the next I won't say the next show. Hey, but in terms of like pitching prospects, like he was a guy who every MLB team wanted, he's going to pitch for the Dodgers tomorrow. So Central America big for baseball, right? Yes.

South America, I assume as well. And Japan is at a deep history right in the sport of baseball. Yeah, they love it. They look 40,000 people were at the Tokyo Dome They said the cheapest ticket and like the nosebleeds up there I think was like anywhere from like 3,000 to 5,000 bucks So they said like it's you know, it's like impossible to get into the stadium. But yeah, the fans over there are Rabbit, they love it. What was the number the global audience for Shohei's first playoff? Obviously they win It was yeah insane Fox reported some What was the number of the global audience for Shohei's first playoff? Obviously they win the World Series.

It was insane. Fox reported some absurd, do you remember that AJ? Whenever it was like the total audience, global audience that was watching, cause they started selling ads for Japanese companies. 30 million, yeah, 30 million people watched a baseball game or whatever. And they're like 10 maybe in America

or maybe eight in America and then like 20 plus in Japan. And the time difference was so insane. It's like Shohei obviously is, I mean, he's spectacular. It is phenomenal to watch this dude, especially the way he goes about it. Like just like this calm confidence and obsession with baseball. If you listen to what everybody's saying and remember

He was a victim like a very very very Huge amount of money was stolen from him by the guy who was his mouth and ears And it's supposed to be his tag team partner and like his best friend I would assume and this entire thing robbed him to start his entire career try almost tanked his entire and his entire thing, robbed him to start his entire career, almost tanked his entire legacy before it even started. And all he has done is just remain committed to ball and trying to become his absolute best. He goes to the Dodgers, they have great success, his first year they're winning. And yeah, he's one of the boys now, it feels like. And baseball, I assume everybody is very thankful in baseball that you know he's playing, but I am as well because I'm intrigued to watch this guy do his thing

Is he ever gonna get back to pitching? He's gonna pitch this year. Okay, which yes, you know if you're a Dodgers fan, obviously It's awesome but because of how special he is at the plate I do just kind of worry about that because that would be like the one way to Kind of shorten his career like if he has any arm issues or anything like that I mean he did still hit last year But like if he would need if he would need Tommy John because of it or something like that, he's just so special at the place. The first guy ever last year to hit 50 homers, steal 50 bases like if he wants to, he could hit 60 homers and steal 60 bases like he just he's

a unicorn. So it's one of those things where their pitching staff is already so good. They got Blake Snell, who was arguably one of like the top free agent pitchers. They have Tyler Glass now who former pirate like he is also a stud. He got hurt last year and didn't play like they are so deep pitching wise that they almost don't need. So could they like put them on an alternate rotation like hey, every two rotations you're going to get again or something they never would that happen?

They probably could do that. But I think and he is different. So maybe it would be different But I feel like those guys like those guys are such creatures of habit that it'd be weird and now maybe if it was set Like hey, you're gonna pitch every 10 days as opposed to every five days then it might work out But for the most part those guys like they just you know, like you never seen that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Yes, I love them. I love show. Shohei That's why I was so, you know Bombed out that he was taking advantage of you know And I think a lot of people didn't think it was possible for him to be taking advantage of and then the more that's coming

Out it's like yeah this guy in jail. Yes. Yeah. Yes He better be and there's a lot of like evidence coming out now about the phone calls and the way he was working and who he Was tricking and how it was all happening is like yeah he he he fucked over Shohei Otani in a massive massive way and he never right this guy never flinched no I mean you yeah like you said like he he had arguably the best offensive season ever for a player and every time like they would show him to like his demeanor like he was always laughing in the dugout Always smiling always having fun like whereas you know a lot of guys especially You're in a different country like that could really fuck with you

And if you know if he ever needed an excuse to be like hey This is why I didn't have a very good season last year. There's a lot of on there Yeah, exactly And what do they do like he wins a World Series and has you know a season that people will be talking about 50 years From now so you got show hey, then you got skeins obviously yeah, you know, a season that people will be talking about 50 years from now. So you got Shohei, then you got Skeens, obviously. Yeah. You know, and Skeens was named the opening day starter in a video that was released by

the Pittsburgh Pirates. And you've got a lot of people going like, yeah, the sky is sometimes blue and everything like that. But remember last year, he wasn't even on the Buccos at this point, right? You know, not too long ago, this dude was pitching for LSU. And then he was here with the Indianapolis Indians downtown selling this place out.

Yeah. I mean, just everybody was coming to watch the AAA affiliate for the Pittsburgh Pirates. Not that they don't always do cause it's a beautiful stadium. It is a beautiful night out here in Indy, but like you'll get, let's say 60% full. every time Skeens was on there that place was packed out ticket prices were going up 50 60 bucks whatever it was then he goes right to the Pirates same

thing must watch television he performed wonderfully now wasn't always good wood whenever he was pitching so maybe we didn't get all the outcome we needed adds two pitches now he's the opening day ace for the Pirates and he is Channel changer worthy not about and I think a lot of people feel that way so you got show Hey, you got skeins. He's only upped his game right skeins in this entire thing. Yeah, I mean, you know same deal He had never faced like MLB hitters last year But like when you have stuff like he does it it doesn't matter and he is another one of those guys We're like as long as he stays healthy,

he's going to be in contention to be like a Cy Young every single year. And that moment where he gets told that he's, you know, start an opening day, like that was really sweet because, you know, obviously like that's a moment he's dreamed of his entire life. Probably he obviously probably knew that that was going to be the case. He's one of the best pitchers in baseball. He damn near won the Cy Young last year as a rookie. But just like

Being told that like I'm sure that that is something that he'll remember forever, too Yeah baseball seemingly has those moments, you know when guys get called up to the big leagues and stuff like that. Yeah Yeah starting you know, there's how many years till the Yankees snatch him up though time whenever he's of a seven everybody needs relax Okay. Oh, it's gonna be they got him for seven years. I got him in for a decent. Yeah That's a long time. He's gonna be able to opt out doesn't he I see I don't want to he's Pittsburgh boy you see that mustache he's got that's got a beard now he's looking unbelievable yeah and he's you know he's got that he's super calm she's super duper humble, like unbelievable humility. Very chill. Wanted to be a fighter pilot, you know, in this entire thing. Still, I think, donates to the military, things like that. He's got a new one, you see, off to the right whenever he gets somebody. You know, because there's a couple moments where he gets a strike and there's like, he times up to, yeah, he's got a couple new little, oh, we're vibing right now. And he's added two pitches. And to your point about last year, at this point,

he had never faced MLB hitters. So like now he has like half a season of experience. Kind of knows how to get guys out, certain guys, like the really good guys. It's like, okay, he doesn't do as well with this pitch or like he doesn't like this area or I can get him to look on this pitch or you know. What did he add?

What are the two pitches he added? Do we remember what they were? He added two pitches this offseason. I don't know what to pick, but like that's something that that's what they say. Like when these guys actually get to the big leagues and they get like a where you're not doing anything else and this is a full time job. Like when you have the ability to kind of manipulate the baseball like he does, like you know, they talked about his splinker that no one else had.

Like, but a couple, when a guy throws this hard, sometimes they don't have to rely as much on off speed pitches. But that would be the thing. Like he'll, he'll add a couple plus. Yeah. What were they? What were the two pitches? Cutter and a sinker. Cutter and a sinker.

So that's junk. Is that what that's considered? Like variations of a fastball, but just like that the movement is like, you know, those could potentially be a couple more outpitches because that is one thing. Like people would start to know, like you get down 02 and they talked about the splinker all last year. It's like, you kind of understand that that, but also like, you know, like Mariano Rivera threw a cutter. So like if he gets guys on base and he wants to jam guys up and try to, you know,

like turn double plays and stuff like that, like these are just options where, because he, he's a strikeout pitcher. Like, and if you want to kind of manage how many pitches he's going to throw in a game, because it's one of those things when you're striking out a shitload of guys, like they don't want him throwing over a hundred pitches every, every game. Like they want him to have some quick innings. So you implement like a cutter and a sinker where you're going to induce a lot more like ground outs and stuff like that Like that might be what what they're thinking case is the replay gonna be live this year

Yeah, I think I saw some tapping of a helmet or nah. I was just spring training. Yeah, they're not doing it So no new rules this year, right? Just it'd be the yeah all the same like pitch clock and all that kind of shit is still instituted But yeah not going to the replay for you know balls and strikes Okay So are we gonna pay attention more to this baseball? Because the Mets are now the Kings of New York. They're not, but you know, hey, they could be. Season hasn't started yet. Season hasn't started yet. Buccos will be good, so.

What happened? What happened to the Yankees? Yankees are in a bad spot. Uh, I mean, yeah, it hasn't been the greatest spring to say the least. The big boom, Kurtis. But yeah. I mean, yeah, it hasn't been the greatest spring to say the least the big boom, but yeah Yeah, what did you see what the big booms did for somebody else? They did something else somebody won a bunch the big booms Oh, who's that? LA Kings six goals straight since they byfield

Yeah, the Rizzo was there for that though. Well again, you know, they're just guns for hire so they can act like they're Yankee fans But you know again Huntel Aaron judge guns for hire so they can act like they're Yankee fans. But you know, again, Huntel, Aaron Judge, batters them to a bloody pulp, whichever one they want to put up for it, that's their call. But no, we'll see. I mean, I'm, what are you talking about?

What do you mean? It's serious business. I'm a Boom fan, we're all Big Boom fans. I was, and you know what I should have known when they went into Texas Roadhouse and did what they did. I should have known a little bit true Maybe I need to look into these folks a little bit more the Texas Roadhouse thing was Wild that made me want to go to Texas Roadhouse to show my allegiance to Texas Roadhouse. I did for sure

Yeah, me too. Me and the wife did as well. Yeah sat right down there at the bar I need one of your chilled salads that are unbelievable chicken critters are unbelievable Fantastic the fries the steak fries, come on. The ranch dressing there better than anywhere else. And then the chicken fried steak, how you doing, keep it moving. How many booms? All of the booms.

So we're gonna disagree on some things. But they did say that the Yankees, since the booms have happened, has not been great. What about the World Series performance? We don't have to throw more people under it all, but Ice Cube out in LA, okay, today was a good day. No, no. Fat Joe is certainly to blame. I don't think Fat Joe, he was just showing up for the team, just like Tracy Morgan was last time. Well, yeah. I hope he's doing okay. We are happy to report via Tracy Morgan's

Instagram that it was food poisoning. Okay. He is a-okay. Yeah, good. That's it. He also mentioned, he also mentioned that thanks, obviously to all the staff and his people for taking care of him. And he said, hey, they're undefeated when I puke on a court. So I might need to bring this back into playoffs. And I'll tell you what, he's got the Knicks on his phone cover. I assume that Tracy Morgan would force himself to puke later

if it was an actuality of them being undefeated. But yeah, this hit the internet. And obviously with everything that's happened around Tracy Morgan, I think a lot of people were like, is he okay? The pre-nose guy right there. My own. I don't think Bobby Bockela wants to see that again. Bobby goes to every game though.

Bobby sheets and shit. He does. He manages to wear a gun. Tracy Morgan puking all over my goddamn shoes. That's a lot of puke. These shoes? Yes, these shoes. So it was puke. These shoes? Yes, these shoes. So it was puke, and then there was some blood.

And I think all of us were just like, we hope everything. Is he OK? Turns out it was food poisoning, and he said, he'll be back. Don't you worry about it. OK. You need some more puke, too. We'll get it.

That was a lot of vomit. Yeah, that was a lot. That was crazy. That was a splash all over the court, too. It definitely splashed off that wood. Yeah, and definitely, you saw the girl sitting two down. She had boots on I think, but she was even like, huh. Jeez.

Because some people get a little woozy. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Change of reaction. Whenever they see it. Yeah, this is, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. It was extreme. It was.

And that was, get out of my body. You know, there was something in there that was, give me out of here. Violent. Yeah Happy he's okay tracy. We're happy. You're okay. Oh, yeah You ever watch his uh comedians in cars getting coffee with seinfeld I think I have seen it He has like a lambo or a ferrari or something. They pull up at his house He's got this gated area in new york city. I think beautiful home you go through it tracy talking I love that show. I really I really it's really good It was really good

He they also made a tank for him on that fish tank when they used to build fish tanks for people they built a sweet one For Tracy tanked I think is the name. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that Yep. All right. We've all watched the same things, but you guys have watched more than me But if I've watched it, I think it means everybody has watched You know that Paul Toodle jr. And senior build them a chopper as well I do I respect those guys arguably more than anyone else in the United States I wanted a chopper as soon as I see one. I think they put a spider one out or I think Yankees one, too Sweet Yankees bike. Yeah, you should get one. They were so fire You know were ever so far. I love you. I was just trying to do his art. I know

Say it was like this is my show still and it was that's what you're kicking through doors kicking through those flimsy doors in that Office this chair right here. No shot. No, this thing's on wheels and grabbable Paul Tuttle seniors gonna send this fucker through a window. He's tired of it too, Junior. Yeah, he's tired. I don't have time What's your name Mikey fucking? Mikey was such a goober wouldn't he? Why's junior looks all that? He's not a small guy. Well, this is when he was younger Obviously look at the age of mike, you know, we can tell by the hair and the style of Mikey. Hey, we appreciate what you guys did.

All those Orange County choppers look like they're very easy to ride and comfortable. Fun. They need to have him play Hogan in the biopic. Mikey or senior? Biopic, the senior. Oh, okay. I didn't know Mikey.

They both. He can play his son. They introduced me to the first ever I believe it's called suicide shift or something like that where it's like an actual gear shift on the bike Yeah, as opposed to like the so Brad Pitt had one of those I saw him riding around doing that Yeah, that seems dangerous that seems like that's a bad idea Yeah, yeah, so yeah How they getting gas in some of those tanks too? Some of those tanks were real slender. So I'm like am I getting down the road here and then we got to refill or and then

they'd always have an answer got a second tank down here. It's like thank you why don't you come. What have we not talked about today that we needed to hit. We hit baseball, we hit not well enough though. Ladies and gentlemen joining us now is the senior insider for the MLB at ESPN. Man who is the voice of a generation for a sport that is called America's oldest pastime. Ladies and gentlemen, Jet. Hey, did you watch the Tuttle's make motorcycles? Yeah, I did. They were brilliant. I loved them. It all goes back to the scene in Pulp Fiction, where Butch is confronted by his girlfriend saying, what's that? And he says, it's a chopper. And she says, can we get on your motorcycle?

And he's like, no, that's a chopper, baby, it's Zed's. Who's Zed? Zed's dead. And I love the whole scene. So ever since then, I will never ride a motorcycle. You're a chopper fan since then, since Zed's dead. Hell yeah, I'm a chopper fan. Got it, rest in peace to Zed.

I don't know what Zed did. I don't remember Pulp Fiction exactly, but. Not great. Well, Zed deserved it. Rest in piss, Zed. Rest in peace to Zed. I don't know what Zed did. I don't remember Pulp Fiction exactly, but... Not great. Zed deserved it. Rest in piss, Zed. Rest in piss, Zed. That's what I think. And he enjoyed choppers. Choppers are a wonderful bike. My first bike was a chopper. Extended front end, you know, has a longer... That's kind of the chopper. You chop it up, you know, you do the whole thing. And I've always wanted an Orange County chopper. Maybe today's the day we pull it.

Maybe. Get one, Patrick. I think senior and junior still doing things separate. I don't know, to be honest, I just got reminded of it. Probably will happen by the end of the week. Speaking of, by the end of this week, the actual MLB season won't have started, but we've already had two games.

Now this is the second year, I believe, that the MLB has done this, where the games are international to start the season, but it's not actually, everybody else is still in preseason. I love this move, you know, because it's kind of a teaser to the regular season coming. And also the environment, I wasn't up for it, but seeing the clips electrifying over there. Now, is Shohei the reason for this all happening? And how often will we have this type of international crossover going forward?

I mean Shohei is the reason for everything in baseball now right? Like it's been a quarter century since baseball's had a star like a like an star with international appeal like Shohei Otani and the fact that they can go to Tokyo and and it's not just Shohei, right? Yoshinobu Yamamoto starts the game for the Dodgers. Shota Imanaga starts the game for the Cubs. Stea Suzuki is hitting second for the Cubs. Shohei is hitting leadoff. Roki Sasaki is starting game two for the Dodgers.

You know, baseball has been trying to catch up internationally to other sports over the last decade or so. And we had the games in Korea last year and they've gone to Japan before. You know, I remember back in 2008, the A's and the Red Sox started the season there and that was my first time visiting Japan. So this isn't anything that's new necessarily, but there's just a lot more resonance now because Japan is such an integral part of where baseball is now and where it wants to be and listen there are not a lot of not a lot of countries around the world Pat where baseball is the number one sport it is unquestionably so

in Japan so to see the game start in that environment to see Otani get to play in front of a country where he's absolutely revered I think was really cool thing for the sport I think we heard whenever Shota talked to us last year through a translator first of all He was awesome on our show said call me Mike put the whole thing in there. He is he is awesome He is they need to showcase him more and obviously starting on opening day here for the Cubs and throwing a no-hitter Through four and then obviously them pulling him in his home country while on opening deck nonetheless. That's it's it's old conversation there but

whatever you you think about I forget which direction I was headed with this but fucking Shohei getting their entire country to kind of rally behind it and then the numbers are like 30 million right for that first playoff game i think is what they said internationally it's would behoove the mob to do more over there right because a lot of these guys didn't they say and i think oh yeah this is where i was showed to showed us said like he almost didn't want to leave japan like some of these people don't want to leave japan because of what baseball is over there so it's like shohei is now playing back in Japan a couple of times a year. Shota's playing a couple of times back in Japan. I think that's a big decision for a lot of these Japanese baseball players, right? Isn't that something, if I was hearing them correctly?

Well, 100%. I mean, think about this, Pat. Think about you wanting to do the thing that you love at the absolute highest level possible. And look, Japanese baseball is very good. It's not Major League Baseball, but the level of competition in MLB is just so much higher than everywhere around the world. And so if you want to test yourself as an athlete, if you want to push yourself to be the best you can be, you go to Major League Baseball in spite of the cultural differences and of the things that you're missing at home. You make yourself uncomfortable.

And I think that that discomfort, you know, for a lot of guys, it's what fuels them, that they don't want to be the person who went across the ocean to play the game they love and came back home as a failure. And so having that pushing them and getting to bring that to Japan where they so deeply appreciate the sport and appreciate all the beauties of it. I understand there are a lot of fans right now who are like, why are you starting the season somewhere else? And to that I say, let's remember, this is not about today for Major League Baseball.

This is not about this year. This is about a game that doesn't have as much resonance in the United States as it did once upon a time. And so how can we figure out where to find that resonance? And if you can find that in Japan, if you can find that in other countries, then why wouldn't you bring your product there and spread the love?

And showcase it. Like baseball showcasing how much it's loved in Japan, I think is a good thing. Like for me, I'm watching that environment. I'm like damn they love it. Like baseball is... Love it. Huge in Japan. Yeah. It's like cool for me to see. I don't wake up for it. But like the clips it is certainly something. Ty has some questions for you. I'll tell you what it reminds me of quickly. Sorry to interrupt there. What it reminds me of is baseball in the Dominican Republic and in Venezuela and in Cuba and All throughout Latin America where it's it's not a pastime It's a passion and and you know the lack of passion domestically

Around major league baseball is is alarming for the sport But to go and find it in other places and to show fans in the United States what baseball can be like. You know, baseball in Latin America, in the Caribbean, in Japan reminds me a lot of college football. Just in how much pride people take in their teams and how truly, deeply devoted they are to it. To that point, college baseball, right?

Yeah, yeah. In that like, some of these college baseball teams we'll see out of the SEC mostly. In the south certainly. Don't want to you know continue to toot Greg Sankey's horn down there but geez Louise it seems like down in the south their baseball teams are very passionate. I still remember I think it was Ole Miss hit a dinger first one out of COVID. First thing we saw. Yep. Live audience was college baseball home run everybody in the outfield packed beers, waters, going bananas. It's like that looks like a whole different sport and then was college baseball home run everybody in the outfield packed beers waters going bananas it's like that looks like a whole different sport and then the

Savannah bananas there's so nice thank you no no that is awesome for the sport of baseball as well very cool but that ain't baseball and even I know that one two three right now Zany one two3 right now is SEC teams for the rankings in college baseball. So what you're saying though is it does exist out there. There's a chance it continues to grow, but showcasing it from other places is not a bad thing, especially if it's going home from a place that's 16-hour time difference. I mean it is opposite side of earth and it all. Okay, Ty, I have some questions for you, Jett.

Yeah, Jett, to your point about how good baseball is in Japan but still not obviously being on the level of the MLB. I mean we saw a couple of the Japanese teams win exhibition games early here. Do you think the success that some of these guys have had in the MLB, like do you think the dam is about to break for Japanese players coming over and playing in the MLB anytime soon? I mean we've seen that kid who was the, you know, the home run record in Japan in high school who played at Shohei's high school and he's at Stanford. He just hit a couple fucking nukes recently.

So obviously these guys are kind of starting to come over more. But do you think the dam is really about to break and we're about to see a whole bunch of Japanese players coming in and playing in the MLB soon? Yeah, Ty, you're talking about Rintaro Sasaki at Stanford, and there are a couple of young right-handers, Shumpeta Yamashita and Hiroto Takahashi, who were in their early 20s and thriving in Nippon professional baseball. One of the things about baseball that the modern era and the technology that we have now has provided is Like we know who's gonna be good when they come here. We know what pitch shapes look like

We know what quality stuff is we know what a good swing is So it's not quite as much of a guessing game as it was in the past And if you have a guy who is going and performing, it's not just about his ERA anymore, it's okay, what is the shape of his fastball and how does he throw his splitter and all these different elements that allow us a better understanding of what a player actually is. And yeah, because of that I think there is going to be a flood of players who are coming over. It's not gonna be in the immediate future, but I think there is going to be a flood of players who are coming over. It's not going to be in the immediate future, but I think now that Japan understands, okay,

this is what players have to look like in order to go to Major League Baseball, a lot more players are going to focus their training on reaching that ultimate goal of MLB. I've never seen... He's a doll. Okay, that's my first time with eyes Gone He's a he's a thick boy Patrick. That's my first time seeing yeah That was my first time with that cuz Ty's been talking this guy up like he is the next one when it comes to hitting in This entire thing. That's my first time seeing him. I'm I love that. That's good for baseball

Yeah, he's not gonna be getting a whole lot of extra base hits. He's not gonna be stealing a whole lot of bases. But, I tell you what. Hey, that's like one of the things about baseball though. Like you think about football, anybody's type can play. Baseball has always had that same thing. Baseball has always had that kind of relatability.

You know what I'm not saying? This guy isn't a freak athlete, which he certainly is. Just that swing. Ty loves this guy. I mean caught him the next Babe Ruth What you said? He kind of looks like Babe Ruth to it is like Stanford headshot If you just put like a stubby little cigar and maybe put like a hot dog in his breast pocket We got we have Japanese Babe Ruth And he's you know, you know who he looks like he looks like Prince Fielder. That's what he is

It's a good comment, you know not a tall guy But and and Prince like I think there was a mistake among fans who thought like Prince Fielder was fat He was not fat. They're just these bodies He had some cushion it's a but like it's a bundle of muscle is mobile ran Marriott or Connor I know. Oh, yeah, Connor's got a lot of room for talking about guys with bad bodies. That's what I'm saying Take on to no one Jed. I know one when I see it Yeah, I got a bad body for it, too, you know, but if you do add any thickness at all, it's very visible

Yeah, you know at but if you do add any thickness at all, it's very visible. You know, at the way a body is filled. So yes, I agree. All these dudes that play baseball and are bigger have to be ridiculously strong. Like that is something they have to have, but they might be comfortable. You know, they might get comfortable. They got hands.

They got that hand speed, man. Ping pong, I bet they are, oh my God. Oh yeah. I bet those big boys dominating ping pong tables. I didn't think they are. Oh my god. Oh, yeah. I bet those big boys Dominating yeah ping-pong tables. I think about that without a doubt horse games. Probably pretty good I'm not bad Best ping-pong player in Major League Baseball is Bruce O'grado roll who's like six three three hundred pounds. So there you go It's good body. He's a wall to six three is a wall Yeah, you know that's tough to get back if you just keep it on the table, obviously, that's good

The guy who would probably win if they did have an actual ping-pong tournament just cuz that's what he does Paul skeins Where we have I talked to I talked to Paul skeins today for about 90 minutes actually it was like the first real sit-down conversation that I've had with him and He might be the most impressive just like as a human being, as the, like the most impressive young baseball player I've seen in the 25 or so years that I've been doing this. He just has it together. Like he gets it. He knows who he is. He knows what he wants to be. He has so many of these external distractions that could just waylay him away from his goals. But the fact that he spent those two years at Air Force getting to know himself, preparing

him for the time that he spent at LSU, which prepared him for Major League Baseball, like, I just came away so impressed by the guy. He really gets it. Absurdly humble, isn't he? Yeah. But you're talking about him knowing who he is too it's like he knows too yeah like he knows he's a guy let's not waste it let's make the most of it and then also let's try to get better and better we

just talked about it he added a sinker and a cutter in a cutter this offseason Oh Jets connection is unstable. I don't want to talk about the Pirates. I mean I get it. That does make sense Ladies and gentlemen Jeff Passen You can learn more about that 90-minute sit-down that Jeff Passen had with Paul Skeen somewhere at some time Jeff Passen.com probably gonna hear somewhere All right. What do we not talk about raw yesterday Brussels was awesome. I was a bummer not being there. Yeah start was sweet John Cena He's mad at me. I'm a fan. What's he mad at me for? You guys are making us jokes. He's on the War Pass. The invisible joke is funny dude. Yeah, come on. It's funny. And don't you know, don't call that

little kid a son of a bitch. Well, that kid was being a son of a bitch. No, he wasn't. The kid was just having a time. That kid was in shock after that. As he should have been. Yeah, that might change the trajectory of his life. Go on, bub. You can be the next John Cena when John Cena stood for all good things. John Cena seemed to be a little bit upset with the way he's been treated over the last 25 years. You know, cause there's always been the,

let's go Cena. Cena sucks. People, it's always been. Even whenever he was going out there every single day, every single night, living on the road, committing his whole life to it, boom, boom, boom. Lucky to do it, thankful to do it, making the most wishes in the history of Make-A-Wish.

You know, boom, boom, boom. Cena sucks. You could tell he was just kinda the whole time. Add it on. And then when push came to shove, what did he do? He snapped. He said, I'm done. This is my last opportunity to let these people know

that I don't like the way they treated me. And he said that a lot yesterday. He did. Bone was weeping in here. Yeah, he was. Because he caught out bone. He did. He said, the let's go scene of people is who he talked.

You're just as despicable as these people. Yeah, you're pathetic. He's talking to bone. Yeah. That kid was bone in an alternate universe he is. Yeah, you're pathetic. He's talking to Bone. Yeah. That kid was Bone in an alternate universe. Yeah. Yeah, younger. He started yelling just like...

Go, John! Belgian Bone. Belgian Bone and D-Bone here suffered the same fate yesterday, which was heartbreak. Yeah. Because of the things that John Cena said. I was bummed out as well. I was bummed out. I hope he finds some happiness in there and knows that there's

a lot of us that respect the work you've done, John. A lot of us respect, massive respect and gratitude for the work. And just because we said let's go see him every once in a while, I was just trying to tell you that. Yeah. Trying to get behind you. I don't like what I heard from him. Me neither. Love what I heard from Cody Rhodes. He should start rapping again. He should start. Thuganomics should have got out there. He should have. You know, I thought maybe he was going to come out and just talk about how great he

was. Didn't that a... Yeah. I thought he was just talking about... He could have. Said he came out and said, let me tell you how terrible you are. Mm-hmm. Geez Louise, Bob.

All right. Some people say he was Patton. You could argue he was Patton. He was. I Some people say he was Patton. You could argue he was Patton. He was. I saw people saying he was Patton, AJ. Did you see that? It's 310 in the afternoon and John Cena's Patton. That's what I saw people saying.

Cause when you were listening to him, it was a little bit of that. I was just saying that John Cena, I know. He was just telling the truth. And that's what he said. He got off the movie set. He has a quick break from the movie set, whatever he John Cena, I know. He was just telling the truth. And that's what he said. He got off the movie set. He has a quick break from the movie set and whatever he's filming, jumping off helicopters.

He's got a lot in his mind. He's got movie sets, he's John Cena, he's a wrestler. You're right. He is a professional wrestler. He's also a professional actor. He's gonna win an Academy Award someday. Yeah, we would assume that is the case. Wasn't that in yesterday.

I agree. Maybe, we would assume that is the case. Wasn't that in yesterday? I agree. Maybe was that the? No. That better not have been. That wasn't the what, you know, has always been. That better not have been. No way. No way. That's what the champ said. Because as I was watching, you know, had a good setup in here yesterday watching. Wish I was there. Crowd was electrified. Shout out to the electrified. Shout out to the Brussels crowd. Massy Boku, Paul Passion, Paul 2 Passion. Wow, you get it. Thank you.

That was an awesome show. It was. Adam Pearce was in the middle of it. It was. Adam Pearce was really in the middle of it. I mean, he went from one thing, boom, right to another. Just bang, out the back. Coming in the gorilla the gorilla what you doing with the contract I need a contract to Rhea Ripley and then once he I don't know how it got settled in gorilla they pokes his head out and boom there's a fight happening now Jace always going nuts trying to put out fires all night literally yeah in a different country yeah Brussels that is Brussels it was awesome over him he was not happy he was was potted people were saying was kind of it he was I don't like potty sigma. No me neither

That better not be who actually it won't be I mean, what's the final boss gotta say about what? Cena said there maybe he's seen us taking orders from the final boss and you know, he's just a puppet again He wouldn't do that on location location, WrestleOps is reporting via P, Professional Wrestling Insider. On location, which is the company that kind of does all the event stuff, is offering a special intimate meal with John Cena at a five-star restaurant during WrestleMania 41 week.

Get him for 25,000 a person. All right, we're gonna do that, so. That's it? So, how many people? How many people? Do we get a table of a hundred? Like what, do they limit this? Imagine we just circled John for a dinner, just us.

I think it's just- He's joining us for a dinner. You, Bone, it's gonna- He's gotta sit in the middle. Yeah, right in the middle. Bone would do much more in 25k. In the round, we're all sitting around. Yeah.

Bone. Bone. What if it was just you and Cena in there? Oh, please. Can you imagine face to face? We bought all ten spots just for you Bone. Why don't you want to tell them like, hey I was a let's go Cena guy from the very beginning. Is that what you would want to say Bone?

Or how did you feel about yesterday? You were a little heartbroken like that little kid from Belgium, that little Belgium Bone boy? No, not really. I went home and did some reflecting and I think we did fuck up can you can you oh my god no no no Foxy can we get a camera straight on his face and put that kid cuz you do look like you look exactly like the kid we're gonna probably this one here so you can just go right back and I'm like quick he smells so bad that's cuz he's been crying all night that's cuz bones

been crying because I mean Belgian bone do Bone's been crying all night. Cause I mean, Belgian Bone. Do the same face as the kid. Here we go. Yeah. Oh no. He was not smiling. Yeah, a little more shocked. Hey, act like you were acting whenever John Cena came out

and said it was your fault. Yeah, a little frowned. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Two different continents, two different age groups. Same kid. Two different humans, same kid. Same bum back kid. Alright, D-Bone, let's go. You said you looked inwards and said you did treat him wrong, you weren't supportive enough of-

I think we were piece of shit to John. Why? I don't think I necessarily was- No you were. I never spoke ill of John in my life. What a mark, dude. But as fans, I think we are the blame. You think the IWC potentially, is that who you're talking about, the internet wrestling community, or you're talking about all wrestling marks? No, absolutely. Everybody.

Because nobody respected his jorts long or gave him enough credit? He just could never do anything right. We always wanted him healed. We got him healed. Now we hate him, just like he said. Oh, jeez. OK, bone. John Cena's got a rating on Paul Mavisey.

He's going to buy the merch. Yeah. John Cena went out there and said of his hand. He's gonna buy the merch. Yeah. John Cena went out there and said, don't you even think about buying a new merch. Okay. You get no new shirt. You get no new intro music. You get nothing for what you've done. And D-Bone's like, holy fuck, I never thought about it.

We did mistreat Cena. He was a superstar through and through. He was. And what do we say? Cena sucks just for fun. Not fun now. We got our laughs in. It's the last time as now too.

So this time I'll remember him forever as the guy who just was mad at us for supporting him. I guess so. Did you ever ask him how he's doing backstage or anything? All the time. Huh. Thank you. I think it was one of the first things I said. You know every time I saw him. I said holy shit. It's John Cena. That's little I guess that is kind of treating him like he's not a human there. Well, jeez, I'm part of the problem

The guy killed Osama bin Laden He announced the son of the line was dead. Yes, that is accurate. He gave the order. Yeah different He was watching from the overall office events gonna use your situation. Yeah, what's gonna go on with that air continental title? You see penta snooping? Yeah Boy Dom fucked up to what else is new? Well, that's Dom Dom and Finn are certainly at odds a little bit Last week Dom got him a title shot this week. They're back to I don't know I don't know what to make of that judgment day. Me neither. It's time to judge him Today judgment disarray. Oh, huh. Aren't we judging properly? Yeah, I think so

I don't know how dom is allowed in all these countries anyway, you know, sam You think somebody would say? No, he's got to be on a list come backs Well, actually over there. What's this? We're seeing punk out there? I didn't see him. Phil? I saw... What? What? See him punk. Chick Magnus. Excuse me. I saw Seth Rollins. Yep. But they were still saying Seth freaking Rollins. That's weird. That was an update from a website. Lost the freaking from the website. If the report what I read was accurate. Sure. I haven't

gone to a website a long time. Getting a treadmill, getting a new treadmill. Big deal. Speaking of websites I've been to. Once a website, once a website, getting a treadmill. Very excited about it. Going to be able to run again without all the. It's like a little more cushion. It's a zero G or G. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like the rehab treadmill. That's sweet. Have you heard about this? I've seen it. Yeah. I've done it back in the day. Loved it. It takes the weight off. Yeah. Like after you get, you know, your knee surgery, you get in there and they say like, okay, you'll be running with 25% of your own weight right now and you work your way up. Yeah. And I guess there's full workouts. They have like a full, that'd be great. You could open it up too and run fast bingo. Yeah, I think so

I think there's a chance now You know how fat i've got and how many knee things i've had And how much I ran with soccer and kicked balls, which is just knee shit sprinting and running is not the most fun, but I do miss the feeling of Running so i'm trying to combat that, trying to figure that out. Found this company. We're going to make it happen. Now it might be an overpriced waste of.

It won't be. CBT getting strapped in, getting strapped. You'll need you need some help getting strapped into that thing. Now also also. Oh, good. OK, nice. Yeah, you just got to zip. I think you just got to zip. And then you're in.

And then this thing activates. Allegedly, some super genius created it to do the opposite from what I've been told. So they wanted to add gravity to something for a workout I believe is what somebody and then either the son of the creator or somebody around the creator was like can we invert the gravity in there and they did and then all of a sudden now they're in Invert the gravity in there and they did and then all of a sudden now they're in Every building basically every single rehab facility in the way, so it's like super geniuses figuring something out I assume that's super genius wanted to uh, I Don't maybe hit hills. I don't know what what would why would you want more gravity? You'd do

Work on speed film something that you show people that say hey we were here You want to learn how to run out your fucking mouth run on mercury? Interesting oh you're saying You're saying the moon landing. They did this entire thing. That was anti. What was this technology created? 1990 yeah, so way after I don't know try dickhead. Oh I I think the moon landing is real we did it okay we made it okay I do I really do do you hey you know what I'd like to look into a little bit more everything I see really makes me wonder

but feels like feels like my algo is looking for me to wonder especially if Seth Greenberg is gonna be screaming the word conspiracy yeah yeah on on this show just conspiracy conspiracy my phones. Okay turn this fucking Siri on first time ever Turn it on. Oh, it's listening anyways I knew because we'd be talking about something I open my phone. All of a sudden that thing is on my phone first time ever It's like I never turned you on. How the fuck did you know that interesting? Oh, you're listening without me Oh, maybe I'll be able to sue you. Okay, don't take a ten years and I'll nothing will happen. So it's listening Okay, and this smartphone needs to get smarter. I agree.

I'd say my smartphone is low, low part of class. Whenever it comes to intelligence. I'd say as a whole. But yeah, this fucking thing won. Hey, let's put this in. Come on. Yeah. For the people.

One throw only. Okay. Okay. One shot. You got this. One shot in a moment. Just let it fly. Don't even think. How many people? Uh, way too many. Yeah, not that. Not that. Whoa. Got four people playing tonight. Got four teams playing tonight. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's. Four people. Now's not's not Let's go 25 people 500 bucks. All I have to do is make this Duke Little softer easier to throw and catch probably definitely and hold on to their signs Harder to kick but everything else kind of probably do I know why that happened for this ball? Yeah, cuz in this

Thunderdome. Oh, yeah Cuz it was inside and it's been really warm out and then since the weather gets colder air particles come closer together when it gets colder got it so scientifically it was proven that balls deflate when it gets colder okay so it's like when wood is in because the molecule yeah yeah the whole thing yeah molecules there you go well anyways it is softer makes it easier to hold on to throw catch that whole thing Yep, all those stats probably go up with with this particular pressure Fine to guess I'm not saying it's not a purpose science. Definitely. Well all balls they didn't test any of the

Balls on the other team which what team was that? I was team Oslo. Okay, dude. How many points did you guys score? Ten I think I think we had like four rushing touchdowns So I don't know again. I who scored all this was that with Garrett Blount? Oh, yeah, I still see him running You're like 180 I'll stand at the end. I'll stand at the end of the box, you know, yeah This way. Yeah, he'd a big day. I just want you three tugs. He's just still running. Holy fuck Get down the other side Holy shit We should tackle that guy Holy fuck. Go down the other side. Holy shit. We should tackle that guy.

We did. No. It's hard to that year. And then we got it rubbed in our face cause there was the deflate gate that was happening and we were just trying to move on with our lives. Everybody talked about everybody else. Instead, the boys and I got just buried.

And I was such a low member of the team that obviously I'm not saying I got buried but we were reminded of the outcome of That game like a lot team got buried for sure logo got buried Yeah, and the performance the game tape and they haven't even they've got we can't say Tom got suspended for that Oh, yeah, two years later years later, which I do know sure well, but And the Colts haven't even sniffed that game since Torch are back this year. Remember I'm off this year Yeah, let's see here D but I talked to me all the blogs had talked to me. They'd remind me why not believe You're right. Dan Jones has a lot of energy lock in them. Not just Dan Jones. There's quarterback competition open competition

Yeah Dan Jones there's quarterback competition open competition in there. Yeah, right Yeah, they're gonna bring out the best in each other. That's what competition do at least This is the first year that you guys have had like a quarterback carousel thing and this hasn't been going on for like six years I know everybody's gonna point to Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz and Phillip Rivers and Jacobi were set and everything like that, but We also had some good days, too. It's just easy to every United's. Yeah, it's an easy time Play for the fucking boys We also had some good days too. It's just easy to remember unitis. Yeah, it's an easy time to get Played for the fucking colds Bring a bell Fran Tarkington Is he a colt? No, he's a viking. He's one of the best

Of course at the time. Yeah, and when we're talking vikings football, we'll definitely talk about friend He's one of the ghosts who's gonna play for the vikings aj. Do you know anybody? I wish I knew we all do you call him is the Vikings? AJ, do you know anybody? I wish I knew. We all do. What you call him is tell him, hey, what are you doing? I'd like to, yeah. Cold FaceTime right now, you can do it. There you go, do it.

Passing phone overheated. Yeah, it makes sense. Oh, he just said. Did he start the car? Did he hit none of the car? Did he run any of those chemical peels or something? His skin was glowing. He always looks good though

Remember though. Yes. Yeah, and he's young. I mean, I think he's older than we think because of how young he looks I believe just like less needs that he was in his 50s. What the fuck are these people all long? Yeah I know what I feel a great to Okay 44 okay, if he was 62 that tree branch would have killed him. Yeah, you're right. I forgot he's come back from broke He broke his back. Oh near death experience. Let's just Kurchum was standing next to him when he held it up What do you say And he's still holding it

Like a yard, no just sitting underneath Talk about like that bar on your spine exactly that was like Walk into the gym and they'd see him and he'd just be in the corner racking it right? Mm-hmm How long has he been covering baseball? fucking 50 years 45 years 50 years since Babe Ruth has he had the same voice the whole time as Long as I've known him. Yeah How do you hit that that's like rivalries with

Go Chizzo yesterday. Yeah, you just got to dig down in there and find it cuz it's worthy cuz he's an icon Exactly one of the goats. This is for him. What would he say in this moment right here? Just pack, wing it back and fire that son of a bitch into the hoop.

He would say that? He's a fiery fella. Shot to him, shot to baseball. Shot to the 25 people that win 500 bucks if I make this throw. Oh All right one shot This is for the Indiana Pacers. Okay who have been dancing with destiny Seemingly becoming a team that has been blessed by the basketball gods in the second half of this particular season.

Obviously a few weeks ago we remember Tyrese Halliburton hitting the shot of the year and won four point play to beat the Bucs. Well how about last night against the Minnesota Timberwolves? Obviously Tyrese is out, Mathurin's out, we got TJ McConnell on the boys battling on the road. Take it to the rack TJ McConnell, Yenzer, ah ah. Give me that. And then Obie Toppin just goes, second best shot of the year,

maybe best shot of the year candidate from the corner, just like Tyrese, somebody in his face, splash. We win, you lose in overtime. Don't look now, the Pacers getting hot now. They got to get healthy They got a they certainly have to do that But the Pacers have maybe a team of destiny feel with these shots following for them in very very key important times We cannot underestimate that whenever it's going forward mix Celtics calves You don't have to say the next what no you don No, you don't have to say the Knicks.

So the East is Celtics, Cavs and Pacers? Yeah. Bucks. Knicks are in third. Yeah, they're in third. Safely in third. Okay, so I did my research. Yeah.

No, no, the standings, you're right, but the team, like, they don't have to say. Knicks just can't beat anybody good. Oh, they got no quad one wins? No quad. Write us off. We won't write back. You already have.

The good thing is, Carl Anthony Towns always delivers when the pressure's on the biggest place. They just beat the Heat last night. They just beat the Heat last night. The Heat are 4-19 in the last 23. But the Pacers are playing their best ball at the most important time, so that is huge for them going into the playoffs. I still believe in the Knicks, Bruce, just strictly because of the battle last year with

the Pacers that I paid very close attention to. They got a lot of moxie over there. I don't know if they're gonna be able to survive That's kind of conversation last year another play more minutes But I do like the moxie that Nick's team will be healthier this year But it is certainly a work in progress and have not beaten, you know, the Celtics the Cavaliers the Thunder the Warriors We have been the Pacers saying we're two and one against the Pacers. Okay, don't love that How many quad one ones we got a couple a bunch? Certainly uh calves are the team right? Yeah calves and thunder are like head and shoulders above everybody in the regular season

Oh, yeah, i've seen okay. See he's been on prime time the last couple a few times here the last week They're both already north of 50 wins. They both already clinched the playoff berth, I believe So it's them two, like one seed's locked in home court and everything, but we'll see. And what did Sean said about a week, when was that, two days ago? Three days ago? He said about another week left for LeBron. Yeah, he said that Sunday. Yeah, so that's a big deal.

The week for LeBron cuz them obviously and Lucas going crazy. Austin Reeves going crazy. Austin, they got some exciting whites over there at the Los Angeles Lakers. Yeah. Is he back? Obviously. He's back. He's been playing. Because he was. The NBA is not, hey, I'll turn on a game tonight. Yeah. If you find yourself, well, like my kids love watching the Warriors, but they don't kick off till 10 PM usually because it's out there. But yeah, I mean, I enjoy watching them. I enjoy watching the Lakers like whatever game is on if you actually pay attention. It's like, oh, this is pretty sweet Jimmy Butler Ross triple double Ross is awesome to watch he's still don't really have a three-point shot, but he is kind of

a three point shot, but he is kind of court-making a lot of shit. Yeah, they let him. Naggis didn't have anybody. Jokr was out last night. Jamal Murray was out last night. They still beat the Warriors. Russ was running shit there for the time that I was watching the game. It was awesome to see him. Like, hell yeah, Russ loved it.

He plays so hard, man. Russ plays so hard. I point to him like, yeah, he may not make a bunch of outside shots, but this dude is moving all game. People are trying to make him a villain there for a while. That dude just fucking loves balling. The bug starts with March Madness. The basketball will continue to be great

and then it'll roll right into the NBA playoffs. Pace just winning the NBA title? Boom. It's on me. Oh no. Oh fuck, just short. All right, another finals appearance. Yes.

I guess that's the way it's gonna go. Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. Yeah. Turn left ball bonus ball. Yeah turn left ball You see I think speaking on dilation the Masters is happening soon old buddy day after big night at the master start and They put out a video this morning and it is hey celebrating the history of the course cool great video that was a magical moments in there and how pumped all the patrons get and how everybody is

not allowed to have their phone out it's like uh that's a thing that I hope just and I think it will oh yeah I hope everybody continues to treat it as such. Yeah. Yeah. I may have got to golf here before. It's pretty wild. I mean, I suck at golf. It would have been much more fun if I was better at golf, but I got a chance to see a lot of the shots

that people fucked up on. Yeah. Okay, and the pine trees here. Okay, hey, back in the woods here. Okay, hey, this is where Rory went with his drive. Now he was able to blah, blah, blah, you know, and I stayed in the woods here. Okay. Hey, this is where you know, uh, Rory went with his drive No, he was able to bah bah bah, you know, and I stayed in the woods for another two. Sure I'll tell you what down there ID a man. Oh Looked up a birdie, but you know, you got a you got to really perform at the time, but the place is beautiful

there is a a sense of like greatness and tradition in the air in the The way that course is kept up New trees coming in and out overnight The greens being perfect. Yeah fairways being perfect. Everything's just perfect It's like that place is cared for and I think the golf world really appreciates it Can't wait to watch it. The players got me pretty excited. Did not like that it carried into Monday. No, it was dumb.

The rain delay kind of sucks, but that's Florida. It's going to rain in Florida. That's kind of how it works. So it not finishing on Sunday, I think was not great. I think it going into Monday morning kind of lost the sizzle. You know, almost, and I don't want to say this because I think soccer has an opportunity. Had a soccer feeling on Sunday.

Like, okay, two guys tied. Now they're going to play Monday morning. It's like, all right. And we all knew what was going to happen on Monday, but we still had to watch. Spahn even knew. Yeah, he did. We did. Spahn even knew.

Rory McRoy said he watched a little Devil Wears Prada, ordered some room service and went to bed. He woke up 3 a.m., he said. So he said he hadn't been nervous in a while. So Rory was a little nervous, he said, for that entire thing. I couldn't even imagine spawn, you know Roy's been there done that Rory openly admitted like yeah, very nervous and I think spawn saw that for the first time during the press conference He was watching in the back. He was like I thought it was gonna be short and that thing just kept floating He said it's like that juiced up, you know, you get juiced up in those moments

Everything's a little bit different especially when everything comes comes like how hard you hit something. It's crazy Yeah, he said he said in that when he was watching the press conference He almost yelled go like cuz he thought it was gonna be so short and like when the winds like that you got a 10-foot Area to hit that tournament. Yeah, it's finished not finished on Sunday was tough, but we were officially and we're in it We're in a good spot here as far as sports right now. Yeah, I think offseason sports were all in. Oh, yeah here as far as sports right now. Yeah I think offseason sports we're all in. Oh yeah. Good for us. You guys know Coop is bashing dudes faces in in Righteous Gemstones the show. I heard he had a uh spectacular performance uh I saw a lot of commercials for Righteous Gemstones feels like they're really promoting this. Yeah. Happy it's back. Shout out to Kenny Powers and squad.

Yeah, Cooper's in the first episode, right? Yep. Colonial foot soldier. I've seen some of it. Yeah, man. He's ruthless. He's doing great. Oh, Cooper will do what you need him to do.

Hell yeah. That's why he's an artist. That's why he's an artist. You know? You need him to give a speech for rally boys right before the Super Bowl? He'll do it. No problem.

Yep, no problem. No problem. You need him to be in the suite, talking to the owner, whenever things look a little sketchy, no problem. He, no problem. No problem. You need to be in the suite, talking to the owner, whenever things look a little sketchy, no problem. He'll do them. Need him in the post-superbowl party, bringing the vibes. He'll do it.

If you need a cheesesteak, go cook it in the fucking self. That's right. He's making it. That's Bradley Cooper. What the hell he's doing? I haven't talked to him in a while. I think he's very busy. Where's his bread?

Where's he get his bread from? I would imagine the bread is a huge part of that. Philly. He gets it from Philly. So like the place that he used to eat at, I don't know if it's Danny's or the place that he used to eat at in Philly, they were shipping him shit. Remember that one he said? Yeah. And he would be cooking it himself so then he made it a thing. So it's probably considered a franchise or offshoot of that particular. I tried to do a Rudy's there for a bit just because I wanted their time. So, OK, how do I get you guys just to ship me the ingredients and then I'll cook it myself?

And then once we here's Bradley Cooper, right? So he looks. Yeah, he's. There is a company that does that for restaurants. Belly something. Belly. What is Golden Belly? Yeah, it sounds that sounds right. Gold Belly. Yeah, I've never used it but Great. My wife gets like hams from places and like New York this and like you can get some Texas this

And it shows up with the what's the cold ice? Dry ice the dry ice. It's like the whole thing. Yeah, it's good. I think that's good app. I Think it's only for big things situations. So is Rudy's on gold belly? Should be. Come on. Nick, why don't you call him and tell him get on fucking gold belly. Can you do that?

They need to make a killing. Just in this office. Absolutely. All right, let's get the hell out of here. What a day today. The madness begins tonight, AJ. Who are you picking in these games? Let's do this.

Yep. Let's do this. I. Let's do this. I'm picking Alabama State to beat St. Francis. And I'm picking San Diego State to beat UNC because basketball gods are gonna do their thing. Who do you got? I will take Alabama State to win and I will also take North Carolina.

Okay. Yeah, just we'll take favorites though. Chalk! Yeah. And let me guess. Point favors. Let me guess tomorrow, you want American, okay, you got it, and we'll give you Xavier too.

No, I'll take Mount St. Mary's and Xavier tomorrow. Okay, I'm gonna take American University for sure, just strictly because I know, what is that? I don't know what American University is, but it sounds like a place. They're a good ball club. Very good this year. Okay, yeah, of course they are.

I'm just learning of them. Would like American university do well. Especially now, we need them, okay? So I'm gonna pick that. I'll save my picture tomorrow. Sure. AJ said he's picking an underdog tomorrow though. Maybe, we don't know if that's true.

Yeah, doubt it. I'll stick with him. Is that where sister Jean is? She Mount St. Mary's? No. Loyola! Texas is live there tomorrow, three and a half. What's the one where everybody's hammering?

There's one where a lot of people feel good about it. I got a text from, I don't know if I'm on a list or something, I got a Stu Feiner text message and he basically teased, let me see the wording that he sent. I haven't talked to Stu in years. So Colorado State is favored by two and a half and they're a 12 seed against a five. Okay. Memphis is the five.

There's a game on Friday that is lineage wager. Hashtag be advised. That is a lineage wager is what I was just told. So hilarious text to get. I don't know if that's a tease like am I gonna get so am I getting a follow-up on Friday okay you probably pay for the for the follow Colorado State Memphis is on Friday so that might be it everybody seems to be on Colorado State we'll see what Steph just said Penny's

has the boys rolling though yeah I love that Memphis team I don't understand how their dogs against the 12 is a five seed But have you seen much of Colorado State? Not too much. No, what's a lot in a bucket? I watched a lot of Memphis So I like you know, yeah, I'm supposed to understand. This is March This is much it isn't Anarchy it's just okay. Yep. Yep college basketball try to Johnny Rothstein... Okay, yep. College basketball. College basketball. That, yep. Shout out to... Johnny Rothstein.

Oh, okay, yes. What? You don't know the Rothstein? We know the Rothstein. No, I do, I do. Now I get the saying. I didn't... It's not anarchy.

Yeah, it's just college basketball, yeah. This is March. This is March. Well, it's January, February. March. Is it? His wife said that he just walks around to their place in New York just saying, this is March, this is March. This is March. Well, it's January, February. March. Is it? His wife said that he just walks around to their place in New York just saying, this

is March, this is March. This is March. Yeah, Rossi's wife. So she'll just hear him saying to himself, like in the bathroom, this is March, this is March, this is March, this is March, this is March. And she smacks him in the face and then he stops for a second. Yeah. And then he'll do it again like an hour later. Smack him in the face. I love college ball. Yeah

His entire gimmick is countdown to college ball correct and then in college ball. We're in college ball He loves it and then he was on the show right before he was. Yeah, what is there's a reason he's so into it I forget what it is. There's some Coaching maybe that I forget what it is. Oh, he's been obsessed with it for a long time though Yeah that and wrestling are really like his two things because memory he just had like WrestleMania references from like the music Jurassic Park as well big Jurassic Park fan I mean you don't have time for a lot whenever college basketball is 24-7, but not the newest one was the newest one world Jurassic world. Yeah, that one was kind of shy with the bugs. Yeah, it's new one coming out again though

This one Chris Pratt in what? No, he's not scar Joe Scar Joe Hanson scar Joe and Mahershal E actually the trailer was Pretty soft. Is it cicadas catching on fire? I doubt it. The script was so good that um Chris Pratt said Chris Pratt says to go. It was Glenn Powell. That's what it was. The script's too good I don't want to ruin it. That's not exactly what he said. That's what he said. The script is so good I can't see myself, I can't see a role for myself in here. So interesting that's a hell of a way to turn down a role. I love that that is something I didn't know that happened but maybe he just didn't think he fit in the movie. Does that take maybe he hates it Maybe he thinks it's god-awful. That's what I'm saying

That's a hell of a way to turn something down there But also maybe he thinks it's gonna be so good doesn't want this to be the rest of my life Could be that sometimes actors to just yeah, why would you want that? This just doesn't seem right for me I don't want to do this some of these actors don't want to be just one character forever, right? You're right But I mean they all want to get a put get part of a franchise That you can make multiple movies, and that's when you get the huge money. Yeah in I guess with Glen Powell He's supposed to be the next in Top Gun right whenever it goes

Yeah, I guess you don't want to be typecast is that dress part guy get it I? Wouldn't mind being you know I think it'd be cool be dressed be great tone would fucking love it means Yeah, dr. Green did it for years and years and years, and Ellie Sadler and all the cold. What's going on with the superheroes? We got any of those coming out anytime soon? What happened to them? There was a little bit of a-

Hopefully not. Whoa! What super, I mean, what is a superhero movie? Well, I haven't seen, I speak out of ignorance because I have not seen any of them. Well, you definitely saw the Avengers thing. You definitely saw it. No chance.

Which one of the Avengers? So that was the only one I watched if you do recall This is a few years back. I knew none of the actual superheroes, but I watched the one where they all came together That's the Avengers right great. Okay Marvel Avengers. I believe was the movie I had no idea the backstory available. Okay, that was a little bit of a those interesting thing I actually tweeted along while I was watching it That was a little bit of a, that was an interesting thing. I actually tweeted along while I was watching it, complimenting some of these people, and obviously I guess it was all very well-known shit,

but I had quite an experience. I mean, it was a fantastic movie. I mean- Oh, you enjoyed it, oh, okay. Oh, I loved it, I absolutely loved it. End game. And then the next one, yeah, I was asked, remember this whole thing?

Yep. I was told that I knew the spoilers, and I spoiled it, because I watched the Avengers, only thing I I ever watched and then I was asked down at Super Bowl Radio Row how I think endgame goes and I was just like easy this is an easy one to figure out in the Avengers they were just trying to get the rocks so you just get all the rocks and then you have all about that is the game and then old buddy Iron Man gets all the rock gets the does the thing like that was the entire movie and that just felt like a very easy fucking thing I got

these people attacking me they were calling me a spoiler and saying that I ruined a movie and all the shit I knew I knew next to nothing about any of this shit I'm just literally my thoughts after watching one movie so I will say this Nick super into the superheroes I think, I think you do not get into it. I used to be I couldn't give two shits about it now. But I there are people that like love it. And after watching that Avengers movie, I understand why this is fucking the amount of money they spend on stuff. It was sweet. Like I

really enjoyed it. But I guess a lot of them have done poorly. Right? Isn't that kind of they replaced all the main original actors mostly pretty much because contracts run up and like you guys were talking About people just got kind of tired to play in the same role for years and years years They made all their money They did all these movies and so they tried to turn it over to like newer younger Different actors that it has not hit in the same

So it's a next generation of all these superheroes has kind of become the issue pretty much Yeah, there's a couple of them that like Chris Hemsworth still does some stuff from time to time and he's got some other play He's great. He's the guy place Thor but like spider-man even the last war movie didn't do well there I think everyone just got fatigued. Yeah, cuz there was a bunch of them there. Oh, don't he's back though, huh? Yeah, Robert Downey Jr. Is back as Iron Man You see who's back as Iron Man. No, it's someone else guy. He used to use use who's the next Iron Man? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if there will be these used to be like events though like it'd be like there was one one movie that was coming out a year and now there's

There's so much of it and there's like a new series all the time Like I think they kind of just hit people over the head with it so much that people are like fuck this like it's just too Much I can't you can't keep up with all of it anymore. All right Well, I hope it comes back for you Nick. I do I don't like it's just too much. I can't, you can't keep up with all of it anymore. All right. Well, I hope it comes back for you, Nick. I do. I don't think it's gonna. Whoa. That's all right, we had it, you know?

We had a good run there. All things must come to an end. He doesn't think it's ever coming back. I think you also get to a point where it's like, I'm 35, I don't really give a shit about this stuff anymore. You know? When I was 18, yeah, it was pretty cool. Seeing Iron Man, you know, now it's like-

The storylines are great. I don't give a fuck about this crap. This is for the superhero business. Okay. Okay. Holy shit. Yes! Nice. Still a lot.

Still a lot. Thank you. That's huge. We got an opportunity. Even better at 37. All right, be a friend, tell friends something nice. It might change their life or anything together. We'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, team on me. Great work. Thus far, boys. We're off Thursday, Friday. Remember that. So tomorrow is a Friday. Attitudes shall reflect that. And we will launch into a March madness. Like you've never seen before team on three one two three team good night