The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1312 - Rece Davis, Greg Sankey, Daniel Jeremiah, Gable Steveson, Darius Butler, & Ian Rapoport LIVE In The ThunderDome

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

On today’s show, NFL Insider, Ian Rapoport guest hosts the show LIVE from the ThunderDome while Pat joins from Glasgow, Scotland ahead of Monday Night Raw, while Darius Butler and the boys are back in Indy to discuss all the craziness over the weekend with March Madness, and Aaron Rodgers’ meeting with the Steelers in Pittsburgh over the weekend. Joining the progrum to recap all the March Madness games, some of the coaching changes, which teams left can win the tournament, and if the NIL/transfer portal era has killed the Cinderella is the host of College GameDay for both football and basketball, Rece Davis. Next, the Commissioner of the SEC, Greg Sankey joins the show to do a little victory lap as 7 of the 14 teams who made the tournament have advanced to the Sweet 16, setting a tourney record. Next, former NFL scout, NFL Network Draft analyst, and Chargers play-by-play commentator, Daniel Jeremiah joins the show to chat about his updated mock draft, what happens if Shedeur Sanders slips past #3, how many QB’s are going in the first round, and much more. Later, Olympic Gold Medalist, 2x NCAA Champion, 5x All-American, and 2x Dan Hodge Trophy winner, Gable Steveson joins the show to chat about his heart breaking defeat in the 285 lb. finals and the perspective he has after the fact, what comes next for his career, a future in MMA, and his thoughts on the legacy that he left at Minnesota. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’re off the next two days for the NCAA Tournament. Enjoy all the games, we’ll see you Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Thunderdome. I am not Pat McAfee. But do not adjust your sets. This is actually real and it is actually happening. BAD BIT! Crushed it. I told Pat before the show that I would nail it and I did. I am Ian Rapoport, also known as Rap Sheet. And I am hosting the Pat McAfee show today in place of Pat. We don't know where Pat is He is in another country. Well parts unknown is how was described to me. Okay, but I'm told he is joining us

Right. I'm splitting the screen with you. Yeah I'm just saying I don't know where you are right now. It could be anywhere. Hi Pat. I'm in Glasgow Scotland Look to your right. It's right above my picture could be anywhere. Hi Pat. I'm in Glasgow, Scotland. Look to your right. It's right above my picture on the big screen. Yeah, it says in Glasgow, dirty, probably pieced that together. Hey, great work back there, boys. Great work back there, boys.

Good work, boy. How you doing? I'll tell you what, rap. I've never been in Scotland. This is my first time over here. And obviously we have Monday Night Raw here tonight on Netflix. I believe it kicks off 4 p.m. Eastern, 8 o'clock local.

Only a four hour time zone difference as opposed to, you know, some places in Europe that are like five, six hours. And I'll tell you what, Glasgow is lovely. I've been waltzing around this town all morning, kind of getting a lay of the land, seeing some things. Had a nice breakfast at Cafe Sono my guy, he from Turkey. This spot was unbelievable. And you know, Fahy didn't speak a lot of English and I don't think he understood everything I was saying, but I pointed at Scottish breakfast

and he knew exactly what I wanted. Even gave me some extra fried eggs. So shout out to Fahy and his mom, a wonderful Turkish duo that run Cafe Sono underneath the train station here in Glasgow. That's him cooking right there for me this morning. As soon as I got into town, then I waltzed around, you know, got a chance to get my hair did, you know, I got my hair cut.

I got in Tyler who was Syrian. Okay. He was Syrian, but he learned how to cut hair in Kuwait from his father when he was 13. And I got the fade in Scotland. So I don't know if this is a Syrian fade, a Kuwaiti fade or a Scottish fade Nonetheless, this guy was an artist We're talking about a magician with the scissors and his guy Steve in the shop was also Fantastic as well. I walked around maybe met some filmmakers Yeah shook some hands got a chance to meet the Scottish folks and

The Sun was shining over here in Glasgow because it's a wonderful day Rappaport. Thank you so much for traveling to Indianapolis Obviously, it's great to see you back there with the lads and what a perfect day for you to be here Obviously not because the NFL is the topic of conversation even though we'll have Daniel Jeremiah in the next hour But because sports are popping off in a big way, especially for degenerate booze bags like you. Yeah. More like March sadness rap in my right boys, boys, talks at table at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt one half of the hammer. Now that Cowboys AP tone and nine year NFL vet Darius J Butler.

Let's start with the toxic table. Let's start with the toxic table con man. I know you bet every single underdog. Sorry about it, bud. It's been a rough couple of days for you. What is your takeaway? What is your thought on the weekend that was in college hoops? Yeah, it was a fantastic weekend. Overall 13 and 44 were the underdog money line bets. So yeah, you could say we didn't do too well, but we actually kicked it off in a fantastic fashion at what is a pins mechanical company on Thursday got properly boozed up a crack was had if you will But you know as much as it stinks with the no cinderellas

I know the conversation this morning has been you know, Cinderella's dead and IL is gonna kill Cinderella forever I don't know about that I more so think you know looking ahead is where the you know madness is really gonna be had where these 1-4 matchups some of the you know 3 vs 2 matchups are gonna be incredible Arkansas is kind of the only Double-digit seed that has made it and even there with Calpari with them being one of the seven SEC teams in the sweet six team It does feel as though it's going to be a great close to the tournament. But yeah, it's sad. You know, everyone likes to see

an underdog. Everyone likes to see a Cinderella and personally I want to see some buzzer beaters and immediately as soon as we do finally get a buzzer beater, everyone starts bitching about a travel traveling. No, no, no, no. Traveling. Hold on. And listen, first of all, I think if you were to slow that down D But I think he takes a dribble. It's dude six foot ten. Yeah, obviously He's a freshman from Baltimore which we learned but the story behind this dude being asked during the timeout right before Who wants the ball and he says give me the motherfucking ball? I mean what an answer D but I'm a Maryland Terrapin fan going forward now that

the Johnny's are out strictly because of this. I don't know if I'm a Terp fan with you but I love that type of moxie a lot of type of juice in the huddle then backing it up and actually getting the bucket. I believe Gene Steritor gave the explanation after the play as to why it wasn't a travel thing they call it a gather step. We know traveling isn't real on the big time basketball level but that's an unbelievable play a great shot going to his left fate and the way getting that touch off the glass Was a beautiful buzzer be the tool great great game now my huskies they got knocked off yesterday great battle with the Florida Gator well Of course he took it like like a champion should I like my losers to be sore losers?

So you got to take the good in the bad. How can you stand up for that dude? I mean why wouldn't I? I'm just saying. The back to back national champ. No he's a great coach. No he's a great coach. I'm just saying minutes Pat, minutes after like seconds after he knows cameras are in

the tunnel right? Of course. And this is what I mean it's the refs. Say what rap? Hey rap listen. Listen rap you and your journalist committee have decided that this isn't how a guy supposed to act This is not how a coach is supposed to act I'm a Dan Hurley gets to decide how Dan Hurley acts guy wins back-to-back national championships the boys

Absolutely love them, but I understand you journalists don't like the super competitive coach You know, let's go to the Super Bowl real quick Nick Sirianni You you and your journalist friends got a lot to say about how he operates, but the boys love him. You know, I appreciate that Dan Hurley is always Dan Hurley. Rapp, did you hear what he said though afterwards whenever he was talking, when he talked about where he is now versus where he has been the last couple of years and talking about the scrutiny and everything. And he said he's going to readjust, refresh, reset this offseason get back to coaching. I think there is a chance we see a different Dan early going forward but I don't think

it's a bad thing that he acts differently than everybody else because he always does it. He's always a psychopath and the boys know it and the boys love it. So the Sirianni sort of corollary is a good one I think because like you know look is it in the in the head coaching manual, is there a page for like trash talking your own fans? Probably not, would be my guess. Well, well, well, no,

it was because the guy wanted to run the ball. No, I get it, but I'm saying they love him so much in the locker room that it's sort of like, that's the currency, right? Like, so like, did I love to see Danny Hurley or Dan Hurley as he's now become known, like trash talking the refs after probably not But you know that his guys like that's my guy and I think that's the most I think that that's the real stuff

You know you're looking for Daniel Hurley Dan I'm looking yeah, correct. Yeah, I wonder if he had the dragon underwear on tone Have we got to the bottom of that was he wearing the same? Skivvies as he was the last two years and maybe that's part of the problem. I'm not positive But I know all I know is in the gambling world Dan Hurley is is Doug. Oh, okay He covered 14 straight has covered 14 straight tournament games that run is still going now He won 13 straight until the close loss against the number one Florida Gators But in the gambling world world you can always trust Dan Hurley just like his boys can and if he's firing he go listen

Basketball that's how basketball coaches are yeah, like I have never met a basketball coach in my entire life That isn't just an absolute psychopath like our yeah our high school Basketball coach off the court great Nicest history teacher of all time. Shout out Ron Richards. On the basketball court in practice, absolute psychopath. That's just who basketball coaches are. I love it. Yeah, they kind of have to be, I think,

to kind of rally everybody. And you know, cause you need every single ounce of energy, every single possession, because you never know what's going to happen. And I will say, that's another thing about these college hoops. I did forget about how chaotic some of these moments of basketball. I mean we're talking air balls We're talking throwing layups through the backboard. We're talking about passing it out of bounds dribbling out of bounds

We're talking about some madness still happening on the court. But D bucks my question for you is, you know, obviously we follow the NBA a little bit closer and I Don't give anything weight LeBron James is gonna be on the show this week. Why? What today just not not he said he didn't want to come on when your dumb ass was on It's actually fair I don't like that. Yeah LeBron James. Yeah, he's gonna be on this week and we follow the NBA We don't follow college hoops as much indeed But obviously you do with the Yukon Huskies obviously being who they are

But I forgot about the style of basketball that college hoops is it is vastly different and I think that is something that I enjoy Every single March Madness and I'll tell you what if you if you get cold you can lose quick That's st. John's team and obviously Patino dog and he was surrounded by a lot of people that were all in You know whenever he wanted saw his kid coach But whenever you talk about what Calipari's been able to do with his team and then st. John's get nice cold It's like whoever gets hot at the right time wins this whole damn thing D Butch and I think that's what's special about this March Madness every single year. That's why we love it.

That's why we all become college basketball experts around this time of year. Always in a kind of a neutral site, so nobody really has the full real home court advantage. So I love that part of it. And like Connor was talking about earlier, usually there is an underdog story. There is a Cinderella story, a player or a team or a coach that just kind of takes the college basketball world, the sports world by storm right now.

Should we got all the top seeds still remaining on each, on all four? I'm excited to see how it ends up. Cooper Flagg, him being the, you know, we all assume he'll leave and become the number one pick. They've been dominant. Florida's been dominant. Auburn, everybody's doing their thing, man.

So I'm excited how, this is kind of when I was telling Connor before the show, Sweet 16 outside of my team, outside of Yukon. This is when I really dial in. This is really, really when the games, everybody's watching the games, everybody's excited, but it is a completely different sport than the NBA game.

The NBA game is different. This one is much slower, half court, who can get stops, who can have the ball in their hands and get a finish, make a big play down the stretch. So I'm excited about how this thing's gonna finish out. It feels like every team has a dog as a guy, you know, and there's a, there's a lot they got to go in this guy right here. I mean, Duke and listen, we didn't,

I thought McWhite guy up at Yukon was potentially going to be the exciting white of college basketball. Okay. I did think that was gonna be the case. I didn't pay close enough attention to Cooper flag What a fun? I mean he read he read whatever he's supposed to be a senior I think In high school, he's must be seen in high school this guy and Obviously what he's able to do and his dad the basketball player and the high school basketball story They told during the kickoff show and I got a chance to learn about it I mean he is special and this Duke team. I mean they yeah, they don't look like every Duke team

I've seen the best feels like Shire's team a little bit different than coach K's team my nice say uh Likeable I was kind of like them. I know that's not an easy thing for Duke So congrats to them being as dominant as they have been. And how about January, February in a zone there sweet 16 again. Way to go Foxy go green buddy. Go white. Hell yeah. They didn't even play their best ball, especially last night.

Best player on the team. Jace Richardson. He didn't score until about three minutes left in the game. Only had six points total in the game and they still were able to pull it off. That's how this team has been all season long. They got nine guys that all can play, that all can score. It's been awesome. I'm very, very happy for them to be in the Sweet 16.

Oh, look, he's all choked up about it. Jesus Christ. I'm fired up. It's huge. Yeah, so go ahead. I was saying, did you notice he talked about talked about you know, Jason only scoring six points and What was the first thing that we saw Thursday when we were watching those games together? The ball looks a little overinflated doesn't it?

Yeah, Connor was yelling about it cuz we bet all the overs, you know, cuz we want points, right? You know what I mean, right? We want let's celebrate both teams. Let's have fun by the way shut shout the pins mechanical I think mechanical pins that place was awesome. That's where fun. By the way, shout out to pins mechanical. I think mechanical pins. That place was awesome. That's where you guys were having Thursday. Yeah. Dude. Good. I saw the Instagram. I follow you on Instagram. Look good. It's very kind of you. Thanks for following along. We had a good time out there. You know, some would say talk was a little bit too high. We don't know where he got those because it's not necessarily legal in Indiana.

He found some CBD that really took his ass to the moon, but we want to have a good time. And we wanted to just see points, points, points. And then everything was and it was out town. I see some people been talking about this for years about the NCAA, maybe spiking these balls to make it a double rim effect everywhere. Yeah, there was a player who came out this a few players who came out this year who said, you know, they have to adjust their shot potentially because of the overinflation of the ball. Dalton Kinect was talking about it.

Wait a minute. Yeah. This is real? Oh yeah. Is this on the dark web? I have not gotten this. No it's on just the normal web. Really? Yeah x.com or whatever it is.

I know, I know that you should. This is called research, rap. What do you think I've been doing? I've been researching for this moment right here the last five days. He was boozed up all weekend. He admitted to us earlier he was very boozed up all up all weekend. So, most madness, how could he not be? No, I was fine. So I stayed home, I sat in front of my TV to research this mo- for this- well, I wasn't home home. I was at a different someone else's home. Very nice. In Montana. But I was- I watched- when I took a break from skiing, I watched the tournament. Yeah. When I took a break from skiing and counting money, then I would watch these basketball games take place.

And I appreciate you doing that for the good of the program. Yeah, I do it for you guys. And I am I'm well researched. I know all the players on some of the teams. I watched last night. Hey, who hit the game winner for Maryland Derek Queen I mean, can I just that's like four steps

For your state maybe I mean look, here's what I understand if this happened in maybe six. Yeah, I mean Yes, little yes, yes, especially if I get real excited Right which I'm a small shorter than that This happens in football. This is the conversation all day long. There's no delegate football That's true, but there's other stuff that we all talk about. If it's the Chief. And if it's the Chief, I mean, is this not the, and this is not the conversation today. It's a quick-stereotour hit. That's fine.

He was maybe bobbling. I don't know. Was he? Was he not? Who knows? And then everyone's like, all right, moving on. And I don't know why football is like this, but it is so different, Pat, the level of ref scrutiny

that happens. I mean, I've watched it 100 hundred times and I've counted 65 steps. Yeah, but you could say that traveling kind of equates, if we're doing the NFL comparison to like a hip drop tackle. Like hip drop tackle barely got called last year when they said it was going to be a 15 yard penalty, but it didn't get called. People still did it and then No and traveling is just like that sorry you good

Now well what I was gonna say is the refs also heard that he said give me the motherfucking ball. Yeah They said you know what? well, let this guy kind of have a basketball moment here and I don't know if we have the press conference clip afterwards of Him talking about his coach. He was basically yeah here it is moment here. And I don't know if we have the press conference clip afterwards of him talking about his coach. He was basically Yeah, here it is. This is a beautiful moment here. And also a sign of current college ball. Derek, um, no, you were saying you were kind of do this is your first game winner ever? Or

Yeah. Um, I would have given it to him if I had known that. A magical moment. He also said in that press conference, he was asked why the players were asked as a whole why they respond to this particular coach so well. And Derek Queen's answer was like, I'll answer this. He goes, well, he paid us the money, first of all. So that's kind of the reason why. They almost said like, we're working for this guy

Like he's the boss and I kind of appreciate that that mindset is happening You know because we're in this modern college world where NIL is happening and you know Trusts are paying and schools are having to pay these players and obviously it's a wild wild west with the rules and when they can pay When you can't pay yada yada yada you name it But I appreciate the fact that it seems like the way they operate is like hey we're paying you the money you work for us okay and that's how they view it Derek Queen spoke for the team he was like he's the boss he's the one paying us he's a hard coach I guess he's a player's coach he talks about him more than about life it's like and Derek Queen's saying why are you that confident him just saying well I'm from

Baltimore for the Maryland team I mean it's like that's a beautiful story That could be that could be the March story I thought I was gonna be Colorado State a 3.7 seconds of magic and then Derek Queen Shops it down our throat with a sick fundamental obviously sweet 16 is gonna be great Can't wait to continue to watch that Indianapolis is hosting a site more college basketball news Ty congrats, dude Indianapolis is hosting a site more college basketball news Ty Congrats dude. Wow got our guy Got our guy. Hey, listen, I It got released yesterday that Iowa had basically come to terms with Drake's coach Ben McCollum

And because I didn't want to get burned again, I was I kind of pumped the brakes a little bit I was like, you know what not I'm not gonna pop the champagne until we actually get him and then Pete Thamel today he announced hey, Iowa has agreed to terms with Ben McCollum I was sitting David native and Apparently, you know West Virginia. I thought they might have been in on it. But yeah, but yeah Because he Ren Baker was his athletic director at Northwest, Missouri State So they have ties together obviously what he's done You know, he was only at Drake for one year, but they have their best year ever

But I mean he was born in Iowa City. He played, you know high school basketball in Iowa It was dream job, you know Which is crazy because Iowa just seems to be the quote-unquote dream job for so many guys I guess I guess you keep hearing that but no, it'll be crazy because I his style Drake had the they allowed the least points per game per possession of any team in the country this year So like they play good defense They kind of take the shot clock down to you know

Five or less get a good quality shot every single time and that is not what Iowa has been for the last 15 years They run a bunch they score a bunch of points. They don't play any defense So it'll be very interesting to see you know kind of who stays who goes all that kind of stuff But yeah, I couldn't be more ecstatic that Iowa got them a column Yeah, I'm Bob dot West Virginia was supposed to get him obviously. He needs to cut his hair if he's going to play Big 12 basketball, Big 10 basketball. Big 10 not messing around. Neither is the SEC. Obviously seven teams still remaining.

Greg Sankey will join us here in about 25 minutes or so to probably take a victory lap. You know, because after the first round they got buried because the Big 10 was 10-0. You know, the Big 10 was kind of doing their thing SEC had losses and then seven teams end up in the sweet 16 So sanky yeah And he predicted that he thought it was going to be seven before the tournament was started So we will provide him an opportunity to take a victory lap. Go ahead rap. You know, thank you. Well, no, uh, I met him briefly when I covered the sec which i'm my first question

I know we got a guest waiting so I want to get to but I'll just say my first question to Sankey is gonna be Do you remember me and how sad are you that I left but we'll get to that. We'll get to the second. Go ahead Pat Yeah, okay make it about you a rep I do respect that now joining us ladies and gentlemen is a man who knows everything about everything Happening in college sports. He hosts college game day for football and for basketball. Ladies and gentlemen, the consummate professional, Reese David. Yeah, Reese. I'm a little worried about, I'm a little worried about Ty though, because I mean, Iowa is going to play slow, slow, slow.

But the guy does have four national championships. I love it. He got 42 national championships, so you know. Hey, Reese, he's been watching Iowa football, brother. They play slow, slow, slow. That's a great point. Yeah. I was hoping for that. I was hoping for that slow ass basketball to come to West Virginia,

but they were, that wasn't the only hire Xavier beats Texas knocks him out of the tournament. Coach gets hired there. How often is this the kind of musical chairs for coaches? This is kind of the status quo here and how many more do you think we see before the end of this whole tournament race? I don't think a lot more. I think most of the musical chairs have been filled. You were making a great point earlier about sort of acknowledging the realities

of the system with the players with Derek Queen and Kevin Willard. I think the same thing happened with NC State and Will Wade. You know, he told him straight up, the idea was to get a powerful job and maybe there would be opportunities for them, depending on how things went. And it's a very professionalized model. I think the thing about Sean Miller

going from Xavier to Texas that's interesting is that, Crystal Conti, the Texas athletic director who I know you guys know, loves to make the big hire. Sean's been very successful both in Arizona and in both of his stints at Xavier. Kind of tough I'm sure from their standpoint because Xavier extended him a lifeline, but hey look, they knew if this opportunity came up, he was gonna move on, and he did, and he'll do a great job at Texas. But I think we're close to done,

because most of the big, not all obviously, but most of the big jobs are filled, and I don't know that we'll have any more pop open right now. West Virginia's still wide ass open, Reese, okay? As I said, not many. Not many, I said. There's obviously that one. Who do you want, Pat?

I think you should, I think West Virginia, you want to bring back, I'll get you brought back Rich Rod, right? Not a bad idea. Yeah, a little different. I mean, 15 years, like a year and a half. I mean, there's different conversations for everybody. Whoever's going to win, we can't wait to see them get there. I thought McCollum was coming. Maybe that Calhoun fella. Maybe Coach Frazier, who's already conversations for everybody. Whoever's going to win. We can't wait to see them get their thought McCollum was coming

Maybe that Calhoun fella, uh, maybe coach Frazer who's already on the staff. I'm sure Wren will do it Okay, let's move to the tournament itself as opposed to the coaches Did we know that it was going to be heavily favored for the favorites and Reese a lot of people are saying Nil and transfer portal and everything like that potentially killed Tenderella stories forever. Is that real or is this an overreaction you think to potentially what's happening right in front of us, Reese? I think that that, that there is some truth to it, but I don't believe that it's killed it forever because the guys who are having opportunities to move up, uh,

have to be at the other level at some point. And you're going to have the Cinderella teams that have veteran guys that we've had in the past make runs. I mean, almost saw it with Colorado State last night. I think there will still be Cinderella's. I do think it will be maybe a bit more rare than it's been in the past simply because I mean, look, every every team that's contending, virtually every team that's contending and that's a high seed, they have a large number of players who have moved up.

And I think that's just the reality of where we are. I'm for it. All of us look for better opportunities in life and I don't have any problem with the players moving up too. But it probably does come at the expense of, it will be rare to see multiple Cinderella's like make it to the Sweet 16 or more rare than it's been in the past right rap

so one of the things we were talking about kind of coming in here race is Daniel Hurley Yukon coach, you know went a little viral on Danny on the way I appreciate the Daniel on the way to the on the way to the locker room, but you know look it's a brief moment It's probably the most memorable one here But he's had a lot of memorable moments as Yukon's coach now that they are out Can you help us appreciate the run that Yukon's had over the last two into three years? Thank you, right? Thank you, right? Good work. I think it's one of the great

Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Rick. Good work. I think it's one of the great runs in modern tournament history because it is so difficult to keep a team together. Because if you have great young players, they go to the NBA. If you have great older players, somebody bids a lot more money,

you have to manage your salary cap. Then you also have to deal with complacency, which is, as we've been told many times by people familiar to all of us, is the enemy of Braves. And they were able to fight that off largely because of the force of Danny's personality. And he has to have his kind of guys playing for him. Not just anybody who's going to be able to go and play at Connecticut for Dan Hurley. You've got to have a little edge to you. You've got to have a little bit of thick skin. And

all of those guys want to be coached that way. And I was, I was not, I think Ford is the best team in the tournament. I still do. And I was not at all surprised that they had to fight with every ounce of their being to take that away from UConn because UConn wasn't going to hand it over for a second as far as the aftermath Look, I mean he is he is the best coach in the game in my judgment, but that's just him He's gonna do that stuff. He's gonna have these bits of peak, you know in the in the moments afterward and feel like that He got hosed and all of this so I'm not too bothered by it I think he got a little bothered by some stuff I said earlier this year when you know he's lying on the floor and screaming the officials and stuff like that but you know he'll get over it. He's a great coach. Did he say something to you?

No he sent word that he didn't appreciate it so it's okay. He sent a couple? He sent like one of his captains? I don't think he sent word. I think he just shared it and then it was shared with me, but it's okay We're good. I think the world of him. I enjoy talking to it I think he's I think he's a fascinating dude, man And I know he's a great coach and you know, he gets you know, he gets mad. It's okay, and we all do some race Greece, you know Rappaport came in here and he didn't know he was talking to a Dan Hurley friendly crowd, you know, he came in with his journalism degree. Oh, really?

I don't like the way Danny Hurley acts, you know, in this entire thing. And he is a bit much. And then we immediately went to Sirianni who operates in his own fashion as well. If you can get the boys to buy in, who cares? Hi Yak. That's what coaching is all about. Can you bring out the best in people? Let's talk about Calipari with the job. He did with this Arkansas team We talked to Calipari Western, Pennsylvania Italian by Zano. We talked to him last year when he took the Arkansas job They didn't even have a team. I don't even think they had a player. I think everybody was gone It's they didn't have it in the way Calipari tells you he's like

We don't have a locker room was basically what he was saying in the entirety now They go 0 and 5 to begin the season against the SEC. Now they're in a sweet 16, obviously knocking off all Paisan, Patino, St. John's team who couldn't make a shot for the life of them, which he knew was a potential problem for that St. John's team. Let's assume they get that fixed for next year. But when you talk about goat conversations, Calipari is in it. So it's Patino, I guess.

So is Izzo like, where does Calipari rank in all that, and what does this year's team look like in comparison to his previous teams, Reese? I mean, they're not nearly as deep. They're talented, but certainly not as talented as some of his great Kentucky teams, but you're looking at a team now that is two wins away from making John Calipari the first coach to take four different programs to the final four. Four.

And Petino was, we thought Petino might be the guy to do that because he also has taken three. And now it's Cal with a 10 seed. The, you know, the death of Cinderella is suddenly John Calipari and Arkansas with a double digit seed in the Sweet 16. I think it's one of his best coaching jobs and while I think he was underappreciated at the end of Kentucky, I think the fresh, if you want to use the metaphor, fresh shot

clock was really good for both parties. It was good for Kentucky and it was good for John. And he's done a fabulous job with this team. And he seemed like the old Cal yesterday. We had him on game day yesterday morning and he's cracking jokes and being self-effacing and talking about all the things that have gone wrong and all of this stuff. So he seems to be in his element, a little bit of an underdog and

he seems to enjoy life a little more that way. We're hoping it stops by here tomorrow, maybe the next day to chit chat before this week. 16 LeBron James also on the show this week. I don't know if you know that race. Anyways, let's stick with the March Madness Convo. D-Bot has a question for you, Reese. Yeah.

Sticking with March Madness. We're talking about teams and obviously great, great coaches, but for the casual fan out there tuned in now, who are the most exciting players left in the turning now? We're in the sweet 16. Well, everybody knows about about Cooper flagged and I broom. They've been battling for player the year all year and this is not going too far out on a limb because it's a one seed. But man Walter Clayton Jr at Florida is I mean,

he just looks like an NBA guy. Such a quick and pure release. I didn't think he was playing his best offensively yesterday, and then when Florida needed clutch shots, he made him. I think he is as much fun to watch as anybody in the tournament. I think he's just a sensational guy. Jace Richardson of Michigan State is a guy that's really come on in his freshman year. That's terrific, I think.

And there are a number of other guys. I think Alabama has a couple of young players that are fun to watch. Everybody knows about Mark Sears, but LeBaron Spylon is one of the fastest players that you'll see in the country. And them playing a BYU and I think you guys are familiar with the tater tot King Richie Saunders and grandfather I think invented developed or whatever you do with a tater tot and you know that's gonna be

I mean these guys are gonna be both that's gonna be the most entertaining game of all both those teams will score you know in the 90s I think in that sweet 16 matchup. So there are a lot of, a lot of really fun players to watch out there. Happy birthday to JJ watt heartbreaker for Wisconsin to go down to BYU. But also I didn't know the Mormons had cater tots in their back pocket. That's crazy. I did not know that.

That was, that was, that was a big, that was a big deal. Go ahead, calm man. Go ahead. Yeah. Reese, obviously the first couple of rounds were mentioned in talking about the Cinderella's being dead. Do you think that kind of continues into these Sweet 16 Elite Eight games? Do you think those top, Duke, Bama, Kentucky, some of those teams, Houston, are they gonna continue to just roll? Or do you think that some of these four seeds like a Maryland, like in Arkansas and

Calabasasari might be able to Kind of upset those big programs I think Arkansas has got a chance because of its matchup and I do think Alabama has a massive challenge They're not shooting the ball great from three and that's not really what you want against BYU But Florida Auburn Duke, I think you see all of them move on. I think you see Michigan State move on. So I think for the most part, you'll see that. The Tennessee-Kentucky thing is interesting because, you know, Kentucky's beaten them a couple of times this year.

So Tennessee's had their issues with them. So I think for the most part, I expect you'll see, I think you'll see three one-seeds in the final four. And I think there's a possibility that maybe for just the second time in tournament history that you know, you could, wouldn't be surprised at all to see Duke Houston, Florida and Auburn all make the final four.

Is this better? Sorry to interrupt, but is this, like, I know we love, we love the buzzer beaters and we love the Cinderella, but like, when you know, you get to the final weekend and there's a nine seed that we don't know any of the players, like it always feels like, ah, you kind of wish like, you know, I know the players, Pat.

I'm just saying people who are more laymen. Isn't this, in the end, the laymen, yeah. Normal humans, normal. Right, right, exactly. You know what I mean, though? I think that once you get here, it's always nice to have a mix.

Last year was a pretty cool mix because you had two behemoths in Yukon and Purdue. You had an ultimate Cinderella story in NC State who had saved their coach's job, won the ACC tournament, and made it all the way to the Final Four. And you had Alabama breaking through for the first time. So you had a mix last year. But I also remember being there in 2008

when all of the one seeds made it and it felt huge. And I think if you have all one seeds or maybe three one seeds and a Tennessee or a Michigan State or whoever it might be, as a two, you have those huge brand names. That's good too. So there's good theater either way so the one price you pay for the massive upset early is that it often turns into sweet 16 elite 8 type

blowouts you may still get blowouts there's no guarantee against it but i do think you get bigger matchups when you have a little more chalkiness in the bracket up to this point bigger matchups when you have a little more chalkiness in the bracket up to this point. Raph, you look very athletic, very cool, very calm. That's very nice of you. What is this weird baseball? That's actually from Ireland, brother. The slither. Isn't that where you are?

No, I'm in Scotland, you prick. It's not the same. You disrespectful son of a bitch. We're going to beat the piss out of you after this. I'm just saying it's very similar. When I was talking to, I kept this very similar I when I was talking to I kept this very quiet But I was talking to some people close to me and I mentioned that Pat is in Ireland Which I assumed was I mean Scotland is a different country

Just like Wales is over here New that one including including Tyler who did this? fantastic faith even What's that a straight edge razor? Yeah, fuck it let that thing on fire no we did the thing on fire actually put a little so on it Let the thing on fire right in front of me. I'm like Yeah, it was exactly like that little flow fire little shocking I don't know if they put 151 but already

on there and a little on fire. But Tyler was a and then he comes in attacks the neck. I'm like, I got sensitive skin Tyler. He's like, I got you. And then he goes through the entire thing. It was a magical time. But this is Scotland, you prick. Okay.

And this is a great country. Good people come to Glasgow. It is it was a very active active downtown very active It might be the nicest day in this town's history Sunshining clear skies. I was the only person with sunglasses. So I don't think they fucking sell them over here It's been a wonderful wonderful morning legitimately, let's get back to some college hoops though you sound so typical journalists Ian Rappaport We need the big names in there, But Reese, let's go to you. We're going to have Sankey joining us here in a moment. SEC, SPN. This is exactly what you and Seth Greenberg wanted. Isn't

it Reese? Isn't it what you guys wanted, Reese Davis? You know, the funny thing is, is boy, we, we got a little blowback from the picks made immediately on bracketology with all the ones in two seeds and all the SEC teams and then when the SEC teams lost which is bound to happen there were 14 of them in there people say see they stink and now they've got seven of the sweet 16 and if they don't have three in the final four then everybody will say oh they stink they were overrated. It was the best conference I've seen. And whether someone says, well, the conference play wore out a team or they peaked too soon,

or whether someone said they got them ready for the rigors of the tournament, all depends on whether they win games or not. Ole Miss after its win yesterday, well, we had all these battles in conference play that got us ready. There had been some concern about Auburn, whether they had peaked too soon because of the level they had played at.

So a lot of this sort of is revisionist history based on your outcome. But it was the best conference. Doesn't mean the other teams can't beat them. Doesn't mean that the other conferences weren't good. But it was historically great in conference play this year, and they're reaping the benefits of it now Yeah old miss making it is just so funny to think about because you know We were obviously a part of the conversation here very late that the sec is very good. Seth greenberg sec

Sbn host alongside you he came in it was just like the sec the sec then sank. He comes on and sink. He's like What do you want? We committed fully to basketball. We knew it was a down thing. We have gymnastics, we have baseball, we have softball, we have football, our men's basketball, we have women's basketball, our men's basketball was kind of down. So we invested in men's basketball and they kind of go about, you know, doing the entirety. Then you watch the Ole Miss team. It's like, they got Chris Beard as their coach, like coaching managers in this tournament. And then all of a sudden the old best team which is way down I think in the SEC packing order at this moment I don't know about what it's gonna be in the future they got beard coaching down there it's like that dude creates dogs like that's literally that's what his team is so you watch it all kind of fall into place it's like it makes sense that they are

as dominant as they are I can't wait for the Sankey victory lap year while they can still do it. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, Reese, speaking of Seth, we had him on last week and he kind of said how in years past or starting a couple years ago, he said, hey, the ACC and the Big East should form some sort of super conference for basketball.

Now, obviously, football kind of muddies that up a little bit, but after, I mean, ACC used to be the king of college basketball and now Duke is the only team in the Sweet 16. I can't imagine they're very happy about that. Is there a chance that this kind of gets brought back to the table and they do kind of explore this a little bit more after how dismal of a performance the ACC had in the tournament this year? I think it was a wake-up call, Ty, as if they didn't have it already. I don't know that it will lead to any type of merger, maybe some type of scheduling arrangement to, you know, boost their resumes come

selection Sunday. But I think you've already seen a lot of the ACC teams respond to this. You know, a year after going to the Final Four, NC State makes the coaching change. You know, Virginia is hired. You know, Ryan Odom now. North Carolina is changing the way it operates in terms of general manager. I think they were a little bit, if not a lot, slow on the draw about the way things, you guys were talking about it earlier there at Queens. They paid us the money.

I think North Carolina was still in the mindset of, well, Michael Jordan and Jerry Stackhouse played here, you know, you should just come play here. And, you know, they weren't as competitive as they needed to be in some situations in terms of acquiring talent. I think that's about to change. Duke obviously has been on the cutting edge of this and leading the way. So I think you're going to see a bit of a resurgence from the ACC. Scheduling games against the Big East would be great, just because it would be entertainment and good content. But I don't think it's necessary for their survival. Reese, I love that I knew there was no way you were going to be on board with an

ACC Big East. You know, I knew that. It's like that ain't, we don't need to be rearranging everything just for one particular year to be kind of changed, but it is fascinating. If you're thinking, I mean, Duke, UConn at MSG, that would be, I mean, that's just one week of the year, what would that be, let alone everything else. Now, scheduling, I'm all for scheduling arrangements, but more Duke and more you kind

You can put me down for that, which is a strange thing that you can fans Really as a whole they can't stand Duke and I don't understand that because if anyone Historically, but has had Duke's number in big spots They always win, you know and yet for some reason they hold this they hold this contempt for Duke that I don't quite And yet for some reason they hold this contempt for Duke that I don't quite get. I don't know why. Defend yourself. No, we're jealous. I mean, we are the bluest of bloods when it comes to programs.

So why would we be jealous? You look at the last five years. I know. Five. You always beat them. Yeah. I mean, I'm not of that part of the group who has this jealous, serious hatred for Duke, don't really care that much about them.

It's all about you, Conn, baby. You women's innings. We've been dominant. So why would care that much about him. It's all about you come baby. You women's in means We've been dominant. So why would we be you know, I mean If we want to talk about if we want to talk about who's been more dominant as of late I'll come to freeze wanted to get out of West Virginia and go to the enemy Last five years West Virginia's go ahead go ahead. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the answer Personally, I mean it unless you just had a thing about, you know, Indiana historically one of the great programs is sort of,

I mean, West Virginia has been great too. I'm not disputing that. Thank you. Thank you, really? Just, you know, the championships and Bob Knight and the Hoosiers movie and sort of in the DNA of the culture. Would you argue, Pat, that West Virginia is more of a football culture? Most of America's a football culture, but more of a football culture

than a basketball one, even with Jerry Jerry West and the greats that have been there. Definitely, you know, coal mining, you know, that's a football place. But the history of basketball is obviously very serious. You talk about the logo for the mba coming through there now with that being said Stignetti down in indiana, you know, don't get it twisted, you know paisan came in and brought a football thing I think that's why indiana is in such a good spot with that being said as somebody who married into an indiana family I understand why davries went indiana. Okay? Hate it that West Virginia is still currently coachless, but I very much understand and I got respect for Red. Now, Tone has a question for you and I think it's probably going to be about the gambling.

And those of us who cheer for the little guy and bet on the underdog, kind of a bummer these last few days. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Pat knows me super well. It is going to be about the gambling. And I was kind of thinking about this when we had the college football playoff, you know, there was 12 teams in there, but we're like, not all of the 12 of these teams can win the national championship. Not going to say like, hey, we knew SMU probably wasn't going to win the national championship, Indiana, whatever. But now that we are here with 16 left in the basketball tournament, is there a chance, like can all all 16 since there was no super like upsets And there there is not the true Cinderella in this is there a chance that any of these 16 could actually win the national championship? I don't I would be surprised. Okay. I think I think there are still I think there are still levels to five or six

I would say the one that I think Florida's the best team. I think Duke is still levels to five or six. I would say the one that I think Florida's the best team, I think Duke is right there with them, I think Auburn is not far behind, Houston can win it. And then after that, after those four, I think some things would have to fall right. It'd have to fall right for Tennessee, Alabama, Michigan State, I think it would have to fall right.

And then beyond that, I would be surprised. I don't think I've left anybody out. So I think it's really four and then a couple of others that have a shot at it. So seven wouldn't stun me. Anything beyond those seven teams would be very surprising to me. Reese, you keep talking about Florida being the team

you think is best. The public generally seems to be on Duke. Why do you think, what does Florida have that Duke doesn't have? They're a little bit older, although Duke does have some veterans. And I think Seth Bremberg has put it very well. Florida has two of everything. And they're gargantuan. And I think, you you know Cooper flag is great

but so too is Walter Clayton jr. and I think Florida's got just a ton of size they can play with great pace they've got they've got guys off the bench who can produce and the shot that you're showing right now is just a fantastic shot and Clayton just made some time and time again. Got final four experience with Elijah Martin, who went to the final four with FAU a couple of years ago. I look, it's not by a wide margin. I'm not saying Duke can't beat them. They certainly can.

But you know, if I have to rank them in order, I'm putting Florida at the top of the list. Uh, I love watching that Florida team. They were humming early. They were running fast. It was going now obviously Yukon was able to get back into it and it became a great game. The offensive rebounding that they did at the very end obviously seals it for

him but a lot of fun teams to watch when you guys back on TV. It was fun watching you this weekend. Saturday morning, 11am Eastern time slows down a little bit and we'll have a big show around the final four. I like Jay Billis in his bedroom looking in a sport coat and a suit to be professional. I like that. I like Pete Thamel checking in with some breaking news.

Hopefully he'll tell us that a great coach is going to West Virginia. We appreciate the hell out of you, Reese. Likewise, guys. Have a good one. Enjoy Scotland. Thank you. That's the country, Ian. You piece of trash. Ladies and gentlemen, Rich Stavis.

Hey, uh, rap before we, uh, have the SEC commissioner join us here in a matter of moments, why don't you tell us about what's going on with Aaron Rodgers? Did anybody know he was traveling out to Pittsburgh on Friday? And that was just a meet and greet. What was it from your end of the source spectrum? And, uh, what do you think got accomplished here? And what do you think we're looking at here going forward? God? I love these Photoshop's that is he looks not a Photoshop. Yeah, it looks old As far as he's healthy fit He's 42 anyway doesn't look at those biceps man random

Vascularity yeah, that is a gray beard right there just for men's 40 great product anyway Never dye your beard for those that are listening. We know you're dying your beard. Don't do it You name it what we can go through a lot of names of people that dye their beard and we just want to let Them know we know like I'm 37 and I got a lot of gray and white in my beard You can't die because it turns purple we could see we know what's happening. Just do it. Anyways back to you rap I'll tell you what not a lot of dyed beards on this set right here You're right, we would never do that rap that's what we were just saying everyone's respected So as far as who you about your beard don't hold on. Let's kick them out

So these these things right here get super white So, you know just a little touch of gray but throw a little just a touch of gray in there wait I haven't been able to tell that's me got me that's touch of gray football Roger stuff jeez this is You know what this is? This is called reporting. This is literally reporting. This is journalism. Great cowboy.

Thank you. Thank you. I would say this on the Rodgers. The silver cowboy. Sorry. That's fine. It's true. It was amazing to me.

And you know, we've sort of talked about this before. The close circle that Aaron Rodgers has, not a lot of people knew about this visit. People very close to him did not know about this visit, which, you know, look, this leaked, or not leaked, I hate that word. It broke from a reporter who's covered the Steelers for a very long time and is very tied in there

only once he was in the building, right? So like for a lot of us, I think, you know, we sort of thought a visit would be coming but just to be frank Like I was also like I saw the news and was like, okay, I guess it's today I didn't know either and so I think there were a lot of people real close to him that were Sort of a little bit in the dark Which I think he likes now as far as the visit And we'll we'll get into this a little more when Greg Sankie's not waiting

For us you let me know when to shut up so you can get on But it sounded like it went really well and that is my sense. I'm like, yeah, I think he wanted to I think they both Probably wanted to get to know each other, you know The way Jerry Dulac has been reporting on the Steelers for a very long time I assume as soon as he walks in a building Somebody sees him that Jerry knows and tips him off and Jerry reports it and then everybody else kind of follow suit. With that being said, I think it was a both sides wanting to get to know you know, the Michigan pro day was allegedly happening on this particular Friday.

They opted not to go to the Michigan pro day to meet with Aaron ownership. Obviously the con artists Omar con Mike Tomlin, probably numerous others around the building. I don't know if this was necessarily just him trying to get a feel out for what the Pittsburgh Steelers would be like But also Pittsburgh Steelers may be getting a feel out for Aaron Rodgers. Will this thing work? Maybe, you know, I I'm Pretty excited, but you saying that it was good the reporting The message that I got afterwards was a positive message as well for my source says now, obviously, no agreement happens during that day. And is Aaron still contemplating whether or not he

was going to continue to play New York Giants allegedly still very much in on this right rap? Is that accurate, even though they signed Jamis Winston? Yeah, I don't think I mean, the Jamis Winston thing is sort of like we need a backup quarterback, right? So and that that to me makes sense. The con you know, these things contract speaks, right? So Jamis that to me makes sense. These things, contracts speaks, right? So, Jameis Winston gets four million a year. That is backup quarterback money, right?

That is, to me, the best way to tell. It's like, look at the contract, that will tell you everything. I would say giants are still in it. Now, as far as I can tell, there's not been a visit to the giants, but I know there's been communication there So I've it seems to me that he knows what he needs to know Right like visit the Steelers again really positive from both sides

I think they came away with it being like alright like this this could work and look when when Rogers talks football Like really when he talks everything it's kind of compelling and fascinating from Iowa to whatever, especially in this show. 500 page report before anybody else. Just everything he says, yeah people listen to. Just on the record, I'd like to let that be known. Maybe too much, too much I'd say, too much I'd say. But with that being said, incredibly deep thinker. Like I think people just kind of shoe him off as a prima donna and everything like that he's a hippie deep thinker wants to make sure everything's the right decision especially because to your point he is already this last decision he's probably gonna make yeah in football let's

pivot away from Aaron Rodgers we'll talk more about that what Ian has joining us now ladies the gentleman is the commissioner of the southeastern conference who currently has seven teams in the men's sweet 16 ladies and gentlemen, Greg Sankey Coach Commish we know you have something here in a few minutes So we appreciate you taking the time after the first round you guys were getting killed You know, you guys lost a few games and then now you have almost half of the teams left in the sweet 16 How was the emotional roller coaster for you over the last couple of days and how do you feel about your conference and their performance thus far?

I'll start at the end. It's always nice to break records so we've done that on the men's side. I think we have probably have a chance today on the women's side. I know in particular you guys are cheering for Oklahoma over Iowa women's basketball. Shut up! Shot right out of the gate. Yeah, yeah, it's a real, there's like an irrational anxiety. If you were like next to me during these games, there's nothing I can contribute, right? And you're watching the highs and the lows. I pounded my fist on the table a couple of times over the four days of the tournament. But good news is we had a pretty good Saturday, Sunday. Went seven and one.

Go ahead, Rap. I was actually going to get right to that. No, look, I want to, I was going to open the floor to a victory lap, but you seem to have already taken that. When you're watching, as you should, by the way I'm an SEC guy, I cover Mississippi State now. I'm all about it. I'm all about it. Nice.

Columbia. Hey, I got a cowbell in my NFL Network studio, all right, we're all in. Which I'm sure Commissioner knew. I was wondering, how do you watch? Can you take us into, are you full-throated for every team and then you move on, like, what? No, not in a weird way, Pat.

Not in a weird way. Describe to us what it's like for you watching the NCAA tournament, knowing what you've said, knowing what a lot of people think of the SEC. What's it like? Yeah, I'll show you an example. Here's a visual example. When I'm at games, I have a little card,

and I have the time, the timeout and the teams. You know, best college basketball in particular is a game of streaks, like scoring streaks, defensive streaks. And so my nervous energy is the outlet as I track the games as they go based on the timeouts. Um, I was sitting next to Steve McClain, senior associate AD, works in communication to Florida yesterday because I attended games in Lexington and Raleigh over the weekends. He probably has a bruise on his upper thigh because I punched him. Like bomber?

Like bomber? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Punched him harder when things went poorly. You're sitting at a table where decorum is important. You guys know this from a media perspective. You're all in the media.

You can't hear and can. So I try to manage my emotions under the table. How's that for an explanation? But I track the games. I'm interested in what happens and, you know, fouls that happen. The end of the Yukon Florida game, I went, you know, through both sides of my little note card onto another note card because there are so many

reviews and timeouts and in moments Well, dan hurley has something to say to you. I assume and uh, hopefully he'll get it. No, not to me everybody else. Not to me I'm like the good guy Deepa we'll have the last question for you here in about a second But my question for you is if you guys don't win the national championship now bust. This was a this is all big fail. The SEC stinks at basketball. Is that is that how we should view it and talk about it?

People. Yeah, people write that. No, not at all. I think we've achieved things that aren't there now. I want to be on that trophy stand. But every one of these games is unique. You guys are competitors. You understand that, right?

The ball bounces a different way, bounces off the rim. Funny, you know, yesterday it fell our way. You want to keep the momentum going. And having seven of 16, I like our chances, but there's, at this point, at this point in the tournament, every one of these teams is a great team. So be fun to watch the games be played. That's reality.

You put it at risk. If there's nothing at risk competitively, like why would people be interested? The fact that it's competitive close, that's what's cool. Yeah, there's been a lot of great games. Go ahead, D-Bot, last question here. Speaking of, obviously the commission of the SEC, probably one of the top three most powerful men in sports.

Something that kind of took over my timeline. I don't know about the rest of the boys here. What's like your morning routine? You know, getting ready for your days, whether it's a tournament, college football, playoffs, whatever it is. Usually I'm up at 530, go for a run, eat breakfast at home, pretty boring. Drink my coffee in the office, usually before eight. We had a power outage because

of a storm so I couldn't get my garage door to open. Hold on. The bottom thing or I was texting staff for a rock actually. Design flaw we have to work on there. I don't this is good TV or not, but that's what happens. So usually I get up and run and, and read a little bit today. I was trying to figure out how to get inside my garage. I could drive to work.

Okay. Hey, commission, why don't you stick your face into some sparkling water with ice in it tomorrow and good luck the rest of the way. We appreciate the hell out of you stopping by. Cheers. Cheers to you, brothers, ladies and gentlemen, the commissioner of the way. We appreciate the hell out of you stopping by. Cheers. Cheers to you, brothers, ladies and gentlemen, the commissioner of the SEC, Graves. Thank you.

Yeah. Commish. Hey, so that guy's a former football player, right? Old buddy? Yeah. Al Korn State. Yeah, Tone was watching his film this morning. Yeah, good huddle tape.

Good huddle tape out there. He can move, dude. This guy can move. You know, like I saw a lethal shooter once again He had a gummy bear into a bottle yesterday And then I watch this guy run and it's like some of these fitness Influencers a little bit different than the others some of these Trickshot people a little bit different than the others this guy sticking his face in sparkling water 4 a.m Certainly something but I got massive respect for this man massive respective respect for this man. That seems terrible. What do you mean? There it is for you. 545. I'll tell you this, I did a little cold

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camera is and there's other cameras but I have found this one. I am Ian Rappaport. Madness! See I paused for dramatic effect Pat. I am in for Pat McAfee today. Pat is in Luxembourg with the WWE. Jesus. WWE. It is on- Hey, some Scottish fellow is going to run into you one day and smack you right in the mouth for disrespecting this country. Scotland. I'm in Glasgow, Scotland. I'm in Glasgow. It's former shipbuilding town. Then they started they started working on the docks then they started getting a little finance in tech Okay. Yeah, you need to show a little bit of respect a lot of history here

Wow also evolving into the modern day active Glasgow this morning shout out the cafe So no, okay, my guy Fahy and his mom from Turkey making a wonderful Scottish breakfast this morning It's been a it's been a fantastic day as something pops up on my screen there. You are something, okay, great. Yeah, it's great. Monday Night Raw here tonight, live, 4 p.m. Eastern on Netflix.

And you're disgusting, Rapaport, the way you talk about this country. It's a beautiful place. What kind, I mean, I'd love to go there and play golf. One of those days. I hope the Scottish psychopath, Drew McIntyre, smacks the taste out of your mouth He's actually quite

Rap disgusting everything you're doing is disgusting, but we appreciate you traveling Indianapolis Had the middle seat on the way here it was tough Comfort, yeah, but for you, but for you that's like a king Right, you know like a king-size right cuz I mean to show you the kind of shimmy It is I must say I was in comfort plus and I didn't need it. I Had enough I was almost too much legroom. That's surprising enough sleep off lights work. No, so I do lose I I was watching the Netflix golf, you know, golf, full swing, full swing, which was amazing. But usually what I'll do is I'll put my playlist on,

put my AirPods in and go to sleep, but only to my music, which is very weird, but that's how I roll. So full like coma, coma pose. Do you put the eyes? Do you put eye covers on and the neck? No, I'm not. I'm not only do I, not only do I not do that, I am anti-neck pillow. My wife has five of them because she always loses them and then has to buy a new one at the airport. So I think they're dumb and don't work and also weirdly shaped. So I hate them and I'm out on neck pillows. I would like to let everybody know that the plane I was on had like 100 up, 100 down Wi-Fi.

Oh really? Whoa. Never experienced anything like this before. Got a FaceTime from Pyreese Halliburton while I was flying up over Canada. And I'm sitting there and this FaceTime comes through and I answer it, 4K. The greatest connection I've ever had. Shout out to Starlink. I know everybody's everybody mad about things I think if I think if Starlink infiltrated people's lives a little bit more they'd be like hey, thanks for that happening

Wild I was watching the games last night on my phone while I was flying in this place I mean, no no good just street. Now. This was a commercial flight. I assume Delta No Delta? No, no. No? They do have TVs on JetBlue. I know that. That's true. They do. Not one of those? No. No, it was Big Bird.

Have to get back. LeBron James, you know, was going to be on the show this week. Had to get back, you know, have to do that type of thing. Obviously want to save the world. I thought we were all trying to do that. But nonetheless, the talk show table is here. At Boss O'Connor, at T Boston Connor attach make good to see your voice. Well, you just got absolutely brutalized in the shins on gambling this weekend is just the

worst weekend you've had a gambling in some time. Yeah, it's probably the worst weekend ever. And I saw some people. Oh yeah, by far. I mean, when you're betting every single underdog money line, there's a chance you're going to get kicked in the teeth. But typically it is kind of a record like this where it's, you know, not 13 and 44, but you know, you're losing about 30 times, but one of those wins is going to be a plus 800, a plus 650. I think the biggest one was Arkansas against St. John's and even that wasn't massive. Like we saw last year with an Oakland or, you know, one of those FAU runs that Reese Davis kind of just mentioned there. But you know, that's okay.

Because some of these underdogs in the next round now are going to be fantastic teams. Like we already looked at those matchups. I'm assuming Kentucky is going to be a dog. That'll be fun to bet on. Ole Miss, BYU. I mean the BYU team I feel like was one of the most entertaining teams. The BYU Wisconsin game. They were lightingYU team, I feel like was one of the most entertaining teams, the BYU Wisconsin game. They were lighting it up from all over the court. Both teams really were.

So I'm still looking forward to the next couple of rounds. I still have hope in the underdogs, but yeah, as far as success goes, I saw limited to none all weekend. It was pretty brutal. It's all right. It was great sports for all of us. At Darius J. Butler is here obviously nine year NFL vet. We have Daniel Jeremiah, joining us in about 15 minutes to continue to dive in the draft and everything that he's here and one half of the hammer. Cowboys, Silver Fox, AP Tone also here talking about

everything going on around the NFL. Let's do some NFL stories because we have rap sheet here and obviously you have different takes than us. We chatted about the James Winston deal to the New York Giants. You said that backup money. It's easy to see the contract. We talked about Aaron Rodgers, obviously going over to Pittsburgh. We haven't discussed Ryan Tannehill potentially being the veteran backup for JJ McCarthy or how are the Vikings kind of viewing this situation because what kind of seemingly got leaked over the weeks from free agency to Aaron Rogers, the prima donna diva needs to make a decision to we're sick of this guy too. Wait a minute.

Maybe the Vikings are trying to figure out what they want to do with the quarterback and Aaron is kind of weighing all options. Where do we stand with the Minnesota Vikings? I think Tom Pelissera was the first one to report that this is JJ McCarthy's job. Is that where we are? And is Ryan Tannehill a guy that they're gonna bring in to sit behind him? What do you think rap? Okay, we'll start with the JJ McCarthy part. Hey Schultz by the way, don't fight him. Oh Careful. Yeah, he almost spit in my coffee this morning rap. She was pissed Yeah, I saw rap clenches fist when he saw you drinking that Starbucks. I mean this non-labeled coffee from the

Lovely Marriott that I stayed that was they do a great job. Whatever this coffee is is delicious I thought as good as my Americano. I got over here Scotland for my friends at Starbucket It is so hard to find good coffee in in Europe. I just anyway, what's your strategy? Are you gonna take him down like by the knees when you fight him or would it? Well, I was a I was a high school wrestler people don't know this I was I got to be 500 my senior year, so I was terrible and then I was averaged by the end So I could be scrappy, but just to be quick see I have a problem with this. Oh, no way. Oh, there you go You fixed it. All right, great

I was gonna say I have a problem with the graphic but you got the the stories broke unlimited is is really that's a that's a good One the weights probably a little low No, there's gonna be no there's gonna be no public fight. I don't really fight. That's I'm more I'm more of like a hey, can you? That's not real. People will believe. You might not know this. People will believe anything they see on the internet. Oh really? I knew it was bullshit. I knew it was bullshit. Yeah. See?

D-Bud knew it was... Yeah, they didn't sound like you. D-Bud wasn't there. What are we talking about? No, but I knew that's not rap sheet football. Yep. You guys doubted my man's got me. Potentially just... I think D-Bud may be lying there for a little bit. We all thought maybe you did call security and then, you know, once you,

once you told us that you didn't, you had to tell your boss about it because it was obviously in a public place. A lot of people, then your boss obviously reports that that makes a lot more sense, but I am appreciative of you being like, Hey, we need to get the word out there that I did not call mama and data. And the reason why that'll happen is not because of me., we need to get the word out there that I did not call mama and dada. And the reason why that'll happen is not because of me. And we try to do that for you. Unlimited stories broke, unlimited amount of cash available for Schultz, nonetheless, Vikings, they're in on Tannehill,

potentially to be the backup quarterback. Or how do you see this going? I would say Palisaro's right. It is J.J. McCarthy's team going forward. He's gonna be the guy in OTAs, he's get the reps and it did sound like in training camp last year They thought he was excellent now, obviously the knee injury kind of pulls him back a little bit But the the you know, he did the full meniscus repair Generally, that means full recovery and no issues going forward. He's got a lot of time health wise

I think he's gonna be good. The 10 Hill conversations which I didn't get the sense were much convert like it's not like conversations being like our will offer you 20 million and he's like I want 25 like that's not the conversation. If there was any conversation it was more like all right like might you theoretically be available if we need you because Ryan Taino sat out all last year right I think would probably come back for the opportunity to start for an awesome team and maybe make like some decent bridge quarterback money maybe 10 or 15 something like that but I don't think it's like I don't get the sense anything

is imminent and I think they hope that they don't need him because the hope is your future is now roll with JJ McCarthy who's really, and just move forward from there. Okay, so they were gonna be in on Daniel Jones until the coach said, you know what, we're actually gonna get Daniel Jones, and then once Daniel Jones is off the market, because he was already in their building last year, they say, okay, we're gonna roll full force

with J.J. McCarthy. Do you think that's how that went, or do you think there was real conversation about what the hell happens in the quarterback room over there? Well, I would say they were in on Daniel Jones till that morning like they were they were in they made an offer It was I think similar or maybe it might have been a small bit more Trying to remember I can't remember the actual the exact numbers free agency was like a blur plus Twitter went out was all mess

No, it was nightmare, but they made you know, they offered him real money I think similar to what the Colts offered him So they were they were definitely in on it. But even if Daniel Jones Had signed with the Vikings. I got the sense. It was more they were gonna let them battle anyway, right cuz like Let's say they signed Daniel Jones to a 15 million dollar contract and then JJ McCarthy is clearly the better quarterback in camp Players know all the players in the. Players know, all the players, you know, players in the locker room know who the starter is. So if it was JJ, then he was gonna start.

So like that's what I think it would have been anyway. And that's why I think Daniel Jones did a great job, Pat, of being like, the Colts is a better spot because I could start there and then just roll forward. On that note, D-Bud had a little bit of a take about like, you know, Daniel Jones all of a sudden became the belle of the ball, right? Wasn't that kind of a combo there, D-Bud had a little bit of a take about like, you know, Daniel Jones all of a sudden became the bell of the ball, right? Wasn't that kind of a combo there, D-Bud? Yeah, once he wasn't starting and seeing him a lot on prime time,

wasn't necessarily stinking it up or blowing people away. Once you kind of go away, kind of like our coaches, coaches kind of go away for that year, and then they become the bell of the ball. I'm sure Mike McCarthy probably experienced that this off-season, just like Sean Payton and other guys have. So it's interesting now that some people are excited about him being in Indianapolis, potentially either push Anthony Richardson or to actually get in the starting job. I feel like, hey, he comes here, he pushes him, get a competition, but you want to see

this bring the best out of Anthony Richardson. And hopefully that's what it does for, I'm sure a lot of Colts fans probably feel the same way. Well, and Stike and too. Rapaport. Oh I'm sorry go ahead go ahead. Well like Kaos he gets a bunch of credit for being a QB Whisperer and he absolutely is but Stiken has had success with other quarterbacks like it happened with Gardner Minshew where Gardner Minshew came in Pro Bowl and then he gets a deal with you know Las Vegas granted Vegas won how it went but it's not as if coming to you know, Indianapolis is a huge step down as far as you know, play caller goes because we all know Stikken is you know,

one of those top guys that maybe not culture but at being a play caller on off. Yeah, well the culture is going to get turned around. Okay. I've heard they're working hard. Okay. Are they? You talking about Colts? Yeah. Colts just had a mature a little bit. They became professionals. They're all working hard. Just off the RIT, but we're optimistic. Very optimistic. What is it? March 24th? Very, very optimistic. Things change. I do love the people that Chris Ballard has bought in the building and paid big money. Can't buy them. I love him. Heard great things about him off the field.

Will work the same thing with him. And then it's been rumors. I don't know how true this is. Trey Henderson? Are we getting him or what? Oh, is it true? Are we reuniting him and then it's been rumors. I don't know how true this is Trey Henderson Are we getting him or what? Oh, are we reuniting him in lieu or what? Good question. I'm not I'm sure there's interest It seems to me so here's sort of the Bengals stance I mean obviously we saw they paid the two stud receivers right this they paid Jamal Higgins got nice contract Jamal. I mean Great contract Higgins really nice really nice deal as well the Bengals do not like Letting good players leave the building even if it's for like a huge traffic. They don't like it

They like to develop draft develop sign their own guys And I think they get annoyed that people think that they don't sign their guys so Hendrickson is awesome He deserves a lot of money. I think his next contract's gonna be above 30. Is it gonna beat, you know, Max Crosby? I don't know, but it's gonna be above 30. And I think the Bengals are working. Not I think, I know the Bengals are working on it.

And I know they would like to keep him in the building. They would like to pay him. And I think they would like people to stop saying, why don't the Bengals pay their guys because they do and I think Getting Hendrickson done at a at a money and a value that makes sense for both sides Will be a great way for the Bengals to be like See like see yeah, you know Yeah, the interesting rap the interesting thing about that is in the Bengals social media dunked on me and many others

Oh, yeah, it was none of us. Yeah, the interesting thing about that is in the Bangla social media dunked on me and many others. Oh yeah, it was great. None of us, yeah, it was great. I thoroughly enjoy that type of shit. Now there's a lot of people that were in that video were like, okay, well if you all this works out, you know, they have to like defend their entire stance. For me, I loved like, hey, if you want to, if you would like to Vince Carter, you know, take off and dunk on me for something, I I say I am a hundred percent cool with that.

I like that. I think that's good social. I think that's good digital. But I don't think any of us thought they were going to be able to get Tee and Jamar done. They do over a hundred million dollars from both of them. Now the way the contract is being set up for Tee Higgins, I think there's a lot more question marks on how the deal is as a whole verse what was originally reported by journalists like you and many others, but if they were able to get T,

Jamar and Trey Hendrickson all signed in one off season, that would be very much opposite of what the Bengals are, but also a great way to prove that you'll spend money on your people and then what do they do with the rest of the roster? It'll be fascinating. They better draft. I mean, they, look, you spend a lot of money

on these guys, Pat. It's awesome. It's what everybody wants. You have to draft well when you're paying top dollar. Have to. Eagles were able to do this. Eagles were able to pay a lot of people. Now granted, not as much, but at the time,

with where the salary cap was, when they paid the people, Eagles and Halley and everybody over there were able to do it. Because they drafted very, very well. It's like, Bangalore's now gonna do it. And I love that they're at that era of this team they have an indoor practice facility they sold sponsorship their stadium they have a franchise quarterback they're paying players let's go Bangles let's go back I love

everything about it go ahead Ty Schmidt yeah Rapheed speaking of the draft we've gotten a lot of people's takes on this but I don't know if we've necessarily gotten yours yet the closer we get to draft, it seems like Cam Ward is kind of like the surefire number one pick now with the Titans. At this point, are we thinking that him and Shador Sanders are both going to go in the top three, top five, and where does that leave a guy like Jackson Dart? Like, are we going to potentially see three quarterbacks maybe go in like the top 15 or so?

Because that's starting to pick up heat Okay, so I'll start with the last thing first I think the way it's looking to me now I would say my guess and we'll get Daniel Jeremiah's taken in a second But my guess is we get three in the top five atop 15 three in the top 15 because oh Quarterbacks very different statements. Yeah. No, no, sorry three in the top 15 is my guess the biggest Shador's where Shador Sanders goes is the biggest draft question mark that I could remember in a very very long time And I know that coach prime who we love my former colleague great dude done an incredible job of Colorado has talked about the haters

I don't know that it's haters, but people have a lot of questions because he is for sure talented. He has put two programs on his actual back and led them back to national prominence. Like what he did at what he did at Colorado's awesome when he did it at Jackson State's unbelievable. I mean he is he is a rock star, but he's you know, it's not a slam dunk number one overall selection like I think a lot of people think cam ward is so like could chador sanders go two to cleveland possible three to the giants possible could I see him going past the top 10 and be the biggest question mark of the draft with every single team uh you know on the clock being like are they going to take chador I could see that too.

Like it is absolutely fascinating. And a month out now, I have absolutely no idea. I don't know. Yeah. I think, you know, you talk about Shador transforming two schools and two universities. That's very real. It has to be talked about. It's not just him.

Obviously there's a lot that goes with it, but like what him and Travis Hunter were able to do, Travis Hunter certified top five pick, right? He's gonna be the first non quarterback off the board. Where's Abdul Carter? Uh, I would say it's a toss-up Abdul Carter maybe has a little bit of a better chance now just because because the bronze cuz if the Browns don't trap Shador they have Abdul Carter and Miles Garrett I That position like pass rusher. Yeah. Once you get elite guys, they're calling him a blue chip elite type of guy. Usually those guys go first, but we haven't,

you know, necessarily seen anything like Travis Hunter. I don't anticipate him playing full time on both sides of the football, but we haven't seen anything like Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. If you have, if you can get an elite pass rusher at the top of the draft, usually those guys are next valuable right after the quarterback. It's a great graphic right here, by the way. I did not see this one before we go live. Really? Is this bone? Is this a bone production? Dirty. Dirty. Great work, Dirty. That's a great, that's a great, that is a, that is a great graphic. It looks, Abdul Carter looks super cool. Yeah, he looks super cool in the front of that thing. The Zeke Elliott jersey pull-up is really what sells it right there. And he's a dog too, you know, we learned about the shoulder and then the foot and everything

that's kind of been happening. He just shows up at once to play ball. So you'd understand why the Browns might want to team him up. But like the Browns need a young quarterback, don't they? And it's like- They do, but like, so the Browns are in conversations with Russell Wilson, right? And they obviously he visited them and so it seems now he's got mostly like Browns and Giants and obviously everyone's waiting for Aaron Rodgers So that's sort of up in the air, but

It's interesting because if they sign Russell Wilson first of all, I don't get the sense It's gonna be a huge contract if he signs there second of all everyone's gonna say well, obviously the Browns aren't Taking a quarterback. And I would say, I'm not so sure about that because I could actually see them doing all of them. Yeah. Just all of them. Like if Russell Wilson signs a cleave, it's not going to be for a lot of money, then take

them out of anything. You're going to take the best available player at two, no matter what, if that's a quarterback or otherwise. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a mock drafter, a man who actually had a top five, top three trade predicted a couple years back that made us believe that this guy might know everything about everything when it comes to the draft. He and Rich Eisen host the Combine move the sticks ladies and gentlemen Dan Roderamani. What's going on boys? Ian I was watching Ian's face when you said that about the trade.

I just wanted to see his reaction to that because look, there was a lot of information got pulled and to make that prediction, but you know, and I rightfully so, I should give, I should give Pellicero some credit there. So my bad, my bad. Okay, this is the biggest nonsense. I'm sorry.

Hold on, I didn't know this was something. Okay, what happened? What happened? What is this? the biggest nonsense. What happened? I didn't know this was something. What happened? What happened? What is it? Quick story time. So me and Pellis Arrow are driving, Tom is our VP of restaurant reservations, so we always will go to dinner at good places when we're together for draft week, which we will be this year.

Classic Arrow. Shredding. So we're talking, DJ comes on speakerphone, he's talking through a mock draft with us, and it comes up in conversation. Now I think I said it. Pelicero claims he said it. DJ believes that he said it. Anything could have happened.

That maybe the Texans want both, meaning Will Anderson and Stroud, and so maybe they trade up. Now he mocks it, puts himself way out on the limb and so even though I broke the trade of the techs trading up to three, he's the one that gets the flowers on set and so obviously I'm not jealous, I'm happy for him. No, I'm happy for him. This is me being happy for him. No, I'm happy. Being happy for anybody. Well, the funny thing is, like, Pat, as you know, unfortunately, there's this thing called the record of the Pat McAfee show, where I went on and gave the full explanation of why I was doing that and talked about how I wanted to

get at least one of the picks right. I feel like they're taking one of these two players. So if I make the trade, at least I get credit for having, you know, one of the two be correct. And that's actually on record on the Pat Mac, if you show up here to go back and look at it, that's all right. There's some research wrap, go back and look it up. Nonetheless, however it came to be in our eyes, you predicted it accurately.

Now, did you use your source says to get to that? That's good mock drafting. So let's talk about what your sources are saying now. Number two overall, obviously we were just chatting about it. We think that is like a linchpin potentially for the rest of the draft. Does another quarterback go there or does that cause chaos for people to trade up to get another quarterback? Maybe Jackson dart if they think they're going to be in there from what you're leaning at right now and obviously 3.01 out last week, we're waiting on 4.0.

You have Abdul Cardigo and him and Miles Garrett being teamed up would be absolutely absurd in Cleveland. How sure are you of that? Or are you just trying to sit in Andrew Barry's shoes? And what do you think is going to be the next shake maybe from the information that you've received in your mock draft? Yeah, I wouldn't say sure. I mean, the thing that feels sure right now in this thing is that Cam Ward

feels very, very likely to go number one. And then I think all bets are off. I would say this about the Browns. They're going to take a quarterback. I feel confident about this. They're going to take a quarterback with one of their first two picks. So is that a situation where they take Shudder Sanders right there at two? If they were to take Abdul Carter at two, I think 100% I would keep an eye on

the Browns as a team that could be trading back into one to maybe get into the Jackson dart sweepstakes. So, um, that that's where I kind of see everything with them. And then that leaves the giants. If should or gets to the giants. And if the giants decide, you know, that they're not going to take should or then what Ian was talking about, I think that really comes into play is like, okay, now, now it becomes a little bit trickier trying to find where that,

where that landing spot is. So I think Shadour will know after the first three picks, what kind of night it's going to be, because if he doesn't go in the first three, I don't think the Jets will do it. Um, and the Jets, you know, bringing in Justin Fields is still young. I think they want to see what they have there. Uh, you know, I thought the Saints, you could make a case there, but the way they're kind of trying to piece everything together and bring everybody back, you

know, with the Derek Carr situation, I don't know that I feel great about that being a landing spot. So for Chidur, all eyes are on the first three picks. And if somehow he doesn't go to one of those three teams, then it becomes pretty interesting. Before the boys have some questions, DJ, are you gonna be at the draft in Green Bay? Yes, I will be there.

I will be there in Green Bay for that entire week. So we'll pop on with you during the week. Rapshee, will you be there? Oh, I will be there. I'm excited. They haven't told Ian yet. They haven't told Ian yet, Pat. So let's not get ahead of ourselves

We're not gonna see you there Pat Yeah, well, you know the more and more I think about it, you know Maybe we shake their hands. Maybe we do go shake their hands, you know, I'm trying to mentor. I'm in Scotland now You know, I am I'm well voyaged. Maybe we try because it's gonna be an electric factory over there. That place is amazing. I can't wait to see. And also who our guest host potentially would be would be a good thing to be over there. And it's it's awesome what the NFL has done with the draft. So maybe we you know, maybe we go

shake their hands and make it happen. It hasn't happened. This is me potentially thinking about it, you know, and obviously the way this will get aggregated in the conversations and the half truths that will get pushed out there. Welcome to my world, Pat. Welcome to my world. Somebody has to say like, you guys are acting ridiculous. And I feel like I've done that. Now, with that being said, don't need to be that guy all the time, but it seems like I am and I'm almost done with it, especially after eating a cafe sono this morning with Fahy and his mom

I realized that there's a lot more important things about life than always having to take a stand So maybe it's maturity. Maybe it's my daughter, you know, maybe it's the wife. Maybe it's Cafe sono this morning. Nonetheless hoping to get out there that place a beautiful city AP tone has a question for you DJ. Yeah, I'm fascinated by the conversation You guys were just having so sure Sastr doesn't go at three Could he go at 21 to the Steelers and I know you had Jackson Dart mocked to 21 at the Steelers Do you have him mocked there because you actually think he's a first-round quarterback or you think that he could potentially go in the first round? Because a lot of Steelers fans are saying no way to Jackson Darn at 21 strictly because they just have PTSD from Kenny Pickett going at 20.

Yeah, I understand that I get that from the Steelers fans standpoint. My thing is was pretty simple on that. I have him, you know, right on that borderline of being a first round graded player and in a draft where there's a lot of parity and the high side is not as good as some of the other drafts we've seen, I think it's easier to justify that. And then more importantly, I think Jackson Dart based off where they are now, we'll see what Aaron does. But as of right now, I think Jackson Dart would have a good chance of winning that job.

So to me is a better option than what you have on on the squad right now So that's why that one made some sense to me, but I'm curious, you know when Ian said you thought three in the top 15 I'm just I'd love to get Ian's take on that one because to me if Jackson Dart were going in the top 15 There's that New Orleans or is that are you talking about maybe a team coming in? You know from back half of the first round coming up? Yeah, so. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, so first of all, here's what I learned last year.

Okay, I mean, look, so we can go through it right now and see who the quarterback teams are gonna be, right? I would say the Raiders at six are a team, if they slide back, I don't think it's gonna be at six, but I think if they slide back, they could be a team. The Saints potentially, if they slide back. I don't think I don't think it's gonna be at six But I think if they slide back they could be a team the Saints potentially if they slide back as well And I think they would like picks. I would say Colts probably not Falcons. No Seahawks could they actually trade up? I mean obviously they have Donald but that's a it's a great contract for him But they can get out of it after one year

I would say that would be another one the Steelers potentially as well and then you have some teams sort of in the back. I mean how long is Matthew Stafford going to play for the Rams? Could they come up? They could f them picks and they come up as well. So everybody gets overdrafted. At this time last year I knew for a fact that Bo Nix was going to be a second round quarterback. I would have, I told everybody, we knew it for a fact and he went 12 and then showed that he probably should have gone earlier. Like everyone gets overdrafted and no one knows anything. So that's sort of my argument. Panics as well, panics as well. Panics is a great example too. I would have said second rounder and I could have told

you all the reasons and then he gets in there, first of all he gets picked in the top 10, second of all he gets in there and has an absolute cannon and looks great You know, I mean, yeah, I mean kirk cousins and is kirk cousins gonna back up down there rep Uh, I think he is Until he until somebody trades for him until he is Great news! I'm going to take my shot at that. Aggregate that. That was really good.

Here's what I could see. Look at me DJ, you know how... I'll ask you this in a sec, but there's not a ton of surefire absolute day one starting quarterbacks in this draft, so if someone doesn't get one who maybe thought they were going to get one, all of a sudden Cousins becomes a very

interesting trade possibility down the line. DJ, I want to ask who maybe thought they were gonna get one, all of a sudden, Cousins becomes a very interesting trade possibility down the line. DJ, I wanna ask you though, today is Cam Ward's, he's gonna throw out, it's Miami's Pro Day, it's a little later today. You talked about him as sort of the overwhelming favorite to be the first overall pick. What do you need to see today from Cam Ward?

Yeah, I mean, first of all, I'm at the network right now, that's why you see that fancy Oh, you're in the green room. Wow! Hey, tell some of those mid-level execs that there's a chance I'm going to extend the olive branch. There's a chance. Okay.

I will go upstairs as soon as I finish. Tell them great work setting all that up and everything. Tell them we appreciate them. Tell them they're great at what they do. Tell them they do what they do. I'm going to tell them them you're gonna need some of those rice cakes to make their way to Green Bay and then try and seal this deal get Pat back in the mix rice cakes. I'm currently on keto no rice cakes Thank you. I'll take some Yeah, we get a little get you like a beef stick So to me at the pro day, we're

sure. Grab the meat sticks. Sorry, go ahead. So for the pro day today with cam ward, I mean, I really, it's one of those pro days where it's like a proof of life pro day. Just, just show up, show that you're healthy, hold up a current newspaper. I mean, I don't really need to see anything. Like the arm strength is excellent.

He can make every type of throw you see every type of throw on video, but the things that got him in trouble were being a little too over aggressive and trying to force some things, you know, cross body throws kind of some recklessness at times. Like that was the that was the knock wall. The pro day is not gonna you're not gonna see anything from that standpoint. There's no defense. So to me, this is set up for him to shine. But I don't know that he necessarily has a lot at stake either because you can see all the good stuff in this tape.

Yeah, I think your conversation about him being able to throw that ball right there is absolutely absurd. His leadership is there. I'm excited that we have a clear favorite quarterback. I'm excited to watch him kind of take the you stinky into the NFL especially in a city like Nashville that needs something bad go ahead D but yeah DJ we've been talking about kind of move I know Ian just mentioned a couple times moving in the draft and this is the first year however many years that all the teams have come in with their own first round

picks so it's kind of a two part question. How much movement do you expect on draft day? And who are the deepest, what are the deepest position groups in this draft in your position? Obviously, we don't think it's quarterback this year, but who are those position groups that are deep? Yeah, I would say first of all, the first part of the question, the movement thing is gonna be hard because normally the movement positions are

quarterbacks and pass rushers. Well, we don't have a ton of quarterbacks. So if we do see movement, I think it would be at the top of the draft. And then from pass rusher wise leads to the second part of the question. It's the defensive line is the deepest position in the draft. There's a million of these guys and it's edge rushers as well as D tackles. It's just a stacked loaded group where we're going to see, you know, the first round is going to be heavily dominated by defensive linemen and

that's going to carry on into the second round as well. So, you know, that's, you know, that's kind of where we are with that. I just don't know. We're going to see a ton of movement because of that. So, you know, everybody coming in with their picks, it, you know, it could be kind of a stick and pick draft for the most part. That's at least where we are right now at this point in time in the process, unless maybe you're a team that has an offensive tackle need and you feel like that's a little bit of a shallow pool.

Maybe you'd move up a few spots, but I don't know. I'm not anticipating a ton of movement at this point in time. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, DJ, at the start of the draft process, Ted McMillan was, you know, like a top five pick. And then as we get closer to the draft here, it seems like the receivers just in general, their stock has gone way down, maybe outside of Golden running how he did at the combine. Is there a chance that we only get, you know, maybe one or two receivers in the first round? Or do you think when like Macmillan goes, whenever that is, I think you have him mocked at like 22, that the dam will kind of break and

we'll get a run of kind of all these guys who are potentially fringe first round receivers. Yeah, I think we're going to get more than two. I, I, Matthew Golden is going to go in the first round. I think when it's all said and done, a Bucca will end up going on the first round. Macmillan is going to go in the first round. Grades when it's all said and done, a Bucca will end up going in the first round, Macmillan's going to go in the first round grades are a little bit all over the map on him. I never had him up there, you know, throughout the process as a top five guy.

He was kind of in that, you know, I think maybe 13 to 15 range for me, for, for most of the process. Um, so that's kind of where I've had him and you talk to teams in the league. Some are lower than that. Some are a little bit higher than that. I have not talked to anybody that had him as a top ten guy, you know throughout the process So sometimes that can kind of you know get out there on the media side of things But it doesn't necessarily always carry over to the team side of things

But I think those three guys go and I think we'll get another one in there It wouldn't be surprised if Luther Byrd end up getting in the first round out of Missouri Iowa State's got two really really talented receivers that that there's some buzz and some heat on them. So we'll see what happens there. But there's enough options and enough candidates that I think, you know, we're going to get three, four, somewhere in that range. Do the teams that need to rebuild through the draft, like we just talked about the Bengals, they're going to have to have a great great draft obviously in a lot of different positions

Because you know at one point maybe F these picks and rap What did you mean by that when he said that earlier F? What did you mean by that? You said that these pitch a lot of times F is sort of used in place of a word that I can't say on TV. I mean I could say it whoa. Whoa, you better be specific means yeah I mean I could say it. Whoa, whoa, you better be specific. It means yeah Amen, it's good Connor. What uh, what f-word are you talking about? Screw these picks would be another way to say Kids might be watching my kids might be watching they're not they're in school, but they could theoretically be watching Yeah, I understand but I just whenever you say f-word like you make my head say it So just know that you're saying it. Okay without saying you're like you're like my Google Translate Like I say you're in your head goes. Hold on. He means I

Exactly, but these teams that need to transform allegedly There's just a lot of depth in this particular draft and there's gonna be people looking for more picks and need that is that what? You're thinking DJ in this entirety. I think in talking to teams that I've talked to there's an interesting conversation about in trades trying to get picks in next year's draft and even you know going out into the future so at this draft class is what they're saying well I mean yeah there's there's some thought to that of this like hey let's try and get resources there's some teams are already loaded up with comp picks next year because of what they lost in free agency and And now if you trade down a little bit,

you could be in a pretty good situation with next year's draft. So if we do see movement, I'll go back to the question that D-Bud asked because if we do see movement, I don't think you're gonna have to pay sticker prices on movement. Ian, that's the way I would phrase that.

If you are gonna see movement, I don't know that the prices are gonna be super high to move around. So it's interesting, first of all, I would agree because it If you are gonna see movement, I don't know that the prices are gonna be super high to move around. So it's interesting, first of all, I would agree, because it doesn't seem like there's that high, high-end guy who's kind of floating out. I mean, we'll see. But you mentioned the teams looking to get future picks.

The Philadelphia Eagles have done as good a job as maybe anyone in a very long time of exploiting teams desperate for picks this year to move up and they collect future picks like nobody else. So that to them, organizationally, from Jeffrey Lurie all the way down, has been like, this is how we get value.

We acquire picks next year because people, you go, ah, that's second rounder, I'm not going to worry about him next year. Eagles have exploited that, they have collected those and used it to absolutely load up. And so like, I think you're right. I think we're going to see the teams that like Eagles, Ravens, like teams that are perennially good, collect picks for future to be like,

we'll take them because you need this guy and we don't. Yeah, Bradley Cooper knows what he's doing over there in Philadelphia. He and I got a good selfie in the Super Bowl. Somehow they just after we gave the motivational speech to go win the Super Bowl. He they it's unbelievable what they've been able to do with that roster transformation with how much money they paid everybody and then they still pay sake on top of the class. Three years in advance. It's like if Philadelphia is able to

continue to win. That'll be absolutely bananas. Connor has the last question for you here, DJ. We appreciate you. Yeah, DJ, obviously the Patriots don't need a quarterback because Drake may as a future Hall of Famer, but in this scenario where Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter go, you know, one or two and three back to back and then, you know, Shador be in that other pick, obviously the Patriots aren't going there. Elliott Wolf actually came out and mentioned, Hey, we're in a spot now because of free agency where we don't have to take biggest need. We can take best available with Hunter and Abdul Ghan.

Is the next best available like Ash and Jinty? Is there a world where that's who New England goes with? Because you have Will Campbell going 10 and he wouldn't be considered next best available. Yeah, I would say it, if you don't get Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, I would add a little line to the end of best available. I would say best available player that can help your quarterback. So I would be looking on the offensive side of the ball and Ashton Gentey, I have him as I think the number three player in the draft.

So if you just go on pure best available player, it'd be Gentey. And if you're obviously looking on the offensive side of the ball, he's the, you know, he would be the guy there from the offensive side of the ball standpoint. So I just feel like that's got to help unless you can get Abdul Carter, like somehow Abdul Carter there. I get it. But man, like, if you draft Travis Hunter, he played at receiver, he helps he helps Drake made this this first pick after a defensive heavy free

agency. It just feels like man, this has got to be a pick that's going to help Drake. May you think I'm sorry to interrupt. You think that Travis Hunter at four to the Patriots playing receiver makes sense value wise. That's, that's pretty interesting. I would, I think he's dynamic. I think he'd be their most dynamic weapon on offense. And I think they would have a lot of fun watching those two guys, the

quarterback and receiver kind of grow up together. Um, yeah, that would, I would have a lot of fun watching those two guys, the quarterback and receiver kind of grow up together. Yeah, that would, I would have a lot of, I would be excited about that if I were a Patriot fan and somehow Travis Hunter would be there. And I would be interested when they say Travis Hunter, you know, the Patriots select from Colorado Travis Hunter. I would be listening though to say, is it wide receiver? Is it corner? Is it combo like

how are you gonna write that on the card because the team does get to decide how that's gonna be announced oh I would I would ball curious that to me that would be wide receiver slash corner not the other way around if you're the Patriots dog he had the yeah the dog on his chest you're right could be dog? Could be ATH? Could be WR slash CB. I mean, Hey, Pat, go ahead. Pat, real quick. You guys brought Ian into the studio. Do you have to pay for security for him? Or how does that work? Nah, he's so little, he just kind of like squeaks by, you know, people are

looking for them. They just can't, you know, find them. And that's a, uh, that's a gift and a curse. Stay out of the coffee shops. Bingo. 22 a or B he's able to fly in. He can get comfortable. Yep. And at Starbucks, whenever the owner's kid walks in, you know, he's able to kind of weasel on out of there, which is like action gentry. He's like the action gentry of insiders. Just kind of make you miss bounce off get out of there Yeah Look like in that photo, that's what it looks like in that photo. Hey DJ. We appreciate the hell out of you buddy All right see boys. Thanks. How was the big 12 pro day? How's the big 12 pro day? Oh

It's fantastic. We had a great time. Yeah, I thought you besmirched it a little bit at the end of our interview But it was it was fun. We had a great time. Yeah, I thought you besmirched it a little bit at the end of our interview But it was it was fun. We had a good time. I Don't love that West Virginia doesn't have their own pro day. Okay. I know I gathered that I gathered that Once again, we need to get back to having our own pro day But I like that the big 12 comes together and does their thing just like we appreciate the hell and event of our networks finest joining us ladies and gentlemen Daniel Jeremiah So I mean finest except obviously Rich Eisen

Rich does a great job. Wait, is it still NFL Network or It is still rap. Tell us what you're hearing brother because this has been rumored for like two years now, hasn't it? It's kind of been a rumor It's kind of like a at one point allegedly there was a deal done where disney esbn was going to purchase nfl platforms and then NFL plus was added into play a little bit might be able to get a little bit more on the digital side. Maybe the uh, uh Direct to consumer line with nfl plus

What are you hearing about nfl media? Because this has literally been like two years of talks and then another report hits the internet Last week. What are you hearing? Yeah, I was my attention was slightly divided last week So I didn't get to fully listen to the the podcast which I'm definitely gonna subscribe to it If when I can figure out how to do it Here's my problem is I am such a gossip that no one tells me anything because they think I'll just tell everyone sure Which is actually generally true So I don't have valid. I don't have great Intel. What what is that?

I'm a huge follower of cord cutters news Comma whatever if if this is what our people think is best for everyone, I will fully support it. I have literally no idea if it's going to happen. I'm sure it would be great if it did, but I'm kind of like you. If it happens, if it's real, then I think that's if that's what they want, I'm good with it, but I have no idea. There's just so many rumors about it, you know, because it would be a huge price. I mean, that would be a hefty number, especially to take over the NFL

is media. And then if you were to take over NFL network, and I understand the way NFL network operates more so now than maybe ever before in the past, and certainly interesting, but it is the best league or best network that a league has the NFL network. And I think you're a massive piece of that rap, you should be incredibly proud of the work that you've done over there and rich and mooch and everybody, you know, the incur and you know, I don't want to go through a list of people that I've appreciated their time on

NFL network, but the NFL network is definitely the league's best network whenever it comes to all the leagues. But this has been rumored for years now. And, um, allegedly there was a deal done and then it went back to a group of people on both sides. And then that was kind of thrown away and then there's been I mean It's a lot. It's all a lot, you know But we'll see as long as we're able to see the game that we love in the league that we love in more ways I think we'll all be very appreciative

For it, but are you guys operating as if you are for sale over there? Don't I work is that kind of day to to day? Anybody could be the new owners? I am operating as if I only focus on what I have to do. So I have no idea. Mark, do your job. It is not to speak for, yeah, I mean, literally do my job. But not to speak for everyone. But I would say the only way to do this, and it's interesting because it's a little bit like a player

who's name is in trade talks. It's like either you can become obsessed by it and it'll just eat you up, which doesn't feel like it's the case with the people I work with or just kind of do the absolute best you can roll with it. And if it happens, we'll all adjust. But like, I feel like psyche and mindset are pretty good. Like really good. Okay, good.

I'm gonna hear that. It's good. It's you know, the NFL having to deal with ESPN more so than just Monday Night Football And then obviously well what we do day to day And everybody does day to day coverage of the NFL would be cool And obviously the people at ESPN would want to continue to grow sport and grow league So I'd be excited to see what would be next. Uh, a con man college sports happening this weekend, not just college basketball. There was some magic. There's

a magic in some college sports, brother. I looked down here and I see one glorious lad, one Canadian glorious man in Robert rude. What happened in college ball this weekend? Yeah. The glorious Bobby rude has a boy, Pat. And let me tell you about this boy. He scored a game winner, Nick Rude for the Michigan Wolverines against the number one team in the country. The Maryland Terrapins, a third overtime cuts down the slot, little goal, basically making Michigan season. I believe this put them back into the top 25 of a men's college lacrosse. But if we're talking college lacrosse, especially on the men's side, I'd be remiss if I did not say that the Fairfield stags. Yes, those Fairfield stags in Connecticut are the only remaining unbeaten team there.

Nine and oh, they are absolutely rolling right now. A couple of different sites have them ranked in between 12 and 15 because I saw them at 12 I'm gonna say yes they are the 12th team in the country right now but college men's college across kind of taking over here boys once March madness ends you know we had Matt madness which also was electrics but well once it is kind of college cross season so look out for you know Fairfield men's likes but yeah Nick Rood kind of stole the show this weekend beating the Maryland Terps Pat Shout to Nick Rood. I got to meet him a few weeks back at a Monday night. Ron. Obviously. I'm a massive fan of his father

He wasn't necessarily thrown about the entire Canada Pat McAfee situation. That was brewing because he is obviously a proud Canadian But I'm happy for rude in the Michigan Wolverines Notre Dame still got a good squad in the cross, I assume? Yeah, they're still playing. They're still playing well. Chris Cavanaugh is still one of the best players in the country. I would look for them to be around in the end as well. Okay, let's continue with college athletics. You mentioned it there, Matt Madness. And obviously every single year that we've gotten a chance to watch on that madness, we thought to ourselves, damn, they need to move this before March Madness leading in to March Madness because it is electrifying. The arena's roof gets blown off multiple times showcasing the best of the best. A man who's no stranger to the National Championship for

the NCAA former national champion, former Olympic gold medalist, former WWE superstar. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now Gable Steve. Yeah, Gable Steve sir Hey, I'm great. Thank you so much for joining us and Obviously, I've gotten a chance to get to know you over the years and with what happened this weekend I didn't know if you would be open to joining us or not open to joining us Then I watched you next to Hendrickson whenever he was up on the podium and you like kind of gave him a pat on the back Is there a sense of relief that the seasons over is there a sense of disappointment? Because obviously the way it went they're talking about it being the biggest upset in the history

And the reason why it's the biggest upset is because of how damn great you have been as a Minnesota go for the wrestler Where's your headspace at and what are your thoughts on everything that kind of transpired this past weekend? Man, um, you know, I'm not happy with the results that happened this past weekend But you know it's a blessing to go out there in front of the crowd and from the biggest stage and and you know since since leaving in 2022 I've always wanted to go out there and give one that's good push for the University of Minnesota And so that's what I try to do I try to make things things as big as possible and I love I love the show

I love going out there and feeling the jitters having your heart race and having a great opponent across for you and and it's when winter loss The the road isn't in for me and I keep going forward Okay. So what is next for you Gable? Obviously, I saw some haters, you know Anytime you're a superstar and you're dominant like you have been in the modern world There's gonna be people that are haters. This guy couldn't even make it NFL team. This guy, he didn't even play football.

He can't make an NFL team in his first try. Okay. And then you have all this success and you still choose the hard road and you make it all the way back to the national championship, which is why I respect you. Your work ethic is awesome. You're an absolute dog.

Nothing you've done has been easy. What is next for you? Have you thought about that or or kind of where are you at right now whenever you look at tomorrow as opposed to what yesterday was? Oh man, the sun always comes up the next day. You know, that's a that's a saying that everyone's always talked about. But what's next for me is I I've been boxing, I've been putting on the gloves, doing jujitsu classes, trying to get ready ready for an MMA career or right after right after I stepped off the Mass Saturday night just a couple calls from a few new teams that in the NFL and Just the roads keep opening and I'm just so happy that I can go out there and and put on my best performance Win or lose like I said, I'm always a showman I go out there and and I turn the crowd up I show love and and and if a guy gets his hand raised across For me is respect as always.

And so the doors are still opening and I'm just so happy where I am today and where the future is gonna take me. I like the way you operate, man. You've been kind to everybody that I've seen you interact with and the way you were gracious in that situation, especially with the way that the reaction was like,

oh my God, Gable Stevenson has been toppled like the way daniel corny I don't know if you watch it back and if you ever will like the reaction was stunned by everybody Yes, and the way you handled it when you could have gone the other way nothing short of fucking awesome, brother You need to know that and can't wait to see what you do next rap sheet has a question for you gable Gable you mentioned the you're at your time in the NFL You mentioned some teams called by the way, first of all, if you sign, please make sure I get the scoop Just just being real it's hit me up I'll send you my number anyway, you know You you you had some experience with the Bills you have seen wrestlers

Really thrive especially in the offensive line Steven Neil with the Patriots and Zach Frazier with the Steelers, he's a dog. What is it about wrestling that translates so well to, I guess all positions, but specifically the offensive linemen? Just the offensive line and defensive line too. You go out there and it's a one-on-one battle with the guy in front of you. And just growing up wrestling,

you look at a guy crossing units, it's just like you go out there and you want to kill and so that's just what it's about the trenches it's gonna be hard it's gonna be it's gonna be desperation get to the quarterback or it's desperation and I let the D line get to the quarterback so whatever position I can get in that I'll be grateful I'll be thankful and when I was in Buffalo I put my best shoes on a lot of people don't know that was my first time ever playing football and first time I put on Cleo

Guys had a put on von Miller had to help me put on my pads and strapped them because I had no clue How to put them on the first day of camp? Wow, so I appreciate von Miller for that But no, yeah, but you weren't able to make it you weren't able to make it. Yeah Fucking pass. Yeah, we got this I mean me and my strength coach Scott we got this saying man a lot of people say a lot of things but They just talking to talk and and but we're out there walking and walking doing the best we can and in our life and everybody Else's life to just to make sure everybody can see a great show for me and see the next path that I take

And I love that. That's a great quote and obviously that's gonna continue for the rest of your life You become a superstar at a very young age D, but has a question for you gable Yeah talking about what's now you talked about MMA. Do you already have a trainer? Do you already have a regimen in mind going into that next step? I would that's a completely different Avenue You've done it before but what pieces have you already put in place? I'm just just making sure I can get my hands certified and ready. Just making sure that I can see punches coming and make sure that I'm comfortable in a cage and comfortable with guys in front of me that are going to be throwing these

huge haymakers and and getting it getting in and getting out the way. So I mean, I got a great mentor right now. I hope a lot of people know a guy named john jones. Just a very good dude. And and the greatest part of all time. He's pretty he's pretty damn good, you know, um He's pretty damn good so man, I appreciate his efforts of trying to lead me into the right direction and Kind of kind of taking my taking my back and kind of giving me the direction I need and you know I'm really young and he's been there and he's done that before so it's um

I'm really appreciative of how he's kind of walked my my steps leading into this next chapter if that's what it is okay so amateur wrestling obviously they try to kill it a few years back i think whenever it wasn't an olympic sport anymore the entire wrestling community came out and said that's not real and then we watch mat madness every single year it is electrifying we think the sport is obviously very healthy but whenever it goes from amateur wrestling the professional step next is either WWE which you had obviously been around a few different times or you get into mixed martial arts and UFC have you already talked to Dana have you already had those conversations and how long have you been preparing potentially for a life in the cage after wrestling knowing that that is one very viable

professional outlet for good amateur wrestlers um that's I think that's the life in the cage after wrestling, knowing that that is one very viable professional outlet for good amateur wrestlers? Um, that's, I think that's the best outlet for amateur wrestlers overall. And I think, um, I've not spoken to Dana personally, that's one meeting that I would love to have face to face, you know, um, I've been waiting a long time to see him. I know after the 2021 Olympics, he reached out to me and wanted me to come see him in Vegas and everything else. And so that's one meeting that I would love to have and love to see. So if I can, if I can get in front of his face and really pitch

who I am and pitch who he can see and who I will be, I think that'd be the greatest thing. See you tomorrow. Perfect out on you, Gabriel. Maybe you get into TV. You saw the countdown right there. We are still live on YouTube. Great work out of you. Good time. Perfect time. TV magic. We're still I've been doing a block a little times. I can see Yeah, i've been a superstar been a superstar a long time We're on espm plus youtube disney plus and tiktok live still talking to gable steveson Obviously would be pumped to watch you in the ring The jujitsu is the thing right and that kind of the thing like because those motherfuckers can break both your arms at the same time

And that kind of the legs they break your legs and kneecaps Your elbows and arms and all that so hey, just just try to jump out the way if you can but Yeah, it's gonna be tough. But yo, I've always you know me. You know me for a long time I've always been out for the battle. What a what a if it was good or if it was bad I'm if people doubt it and you know, you know, they're always gonna doubt but I've been here before and this is not new That's awesome. Gable Connor has a question for you brother. Yeah, Gable as far as environment Environments go how was it yesterday? You know, obviously the president was there But then you're still looking around and you know, there's a lot of history made

I believe one of the Penn State wrestlers became a five-time national champion as well What was the environment like in that place all day yesterday? as well. What was the environment like in that place all day yesterday? Crazy. Philly showed up for Matt Madness. Carter Starachi, a five-time national champion, probably going to go down as the greatest NCAA wrestler of all time. I get to go out there in front of Trump, in front of Elon Musk and everybody else and go out there and showcase a great matchup. And that's what we want. And that's what wrestling needs. Wrestling needs to grow. Wrestling needs that spotlight for guys like myself, Wyatt Hendrickson, Carter Starachi, and so many other guys that go out there and put on good performances. And like I said before, win or lose,

I've always been that showman and I've always want to show the crowd who I am and leave that lasting legacy of who is gable to the casual viewer that is watching on ESPN that has never heard of me before. I wasn't paying attention close enough whenever they were doing the commentary because the moment was so gigantic. Had you wrestled Hendrickson before? Did you guys know each other very well? And when he shoots at the end there, hey, when he shoots and gets your leg,

you know you're fucked there? Like when do you, like legitimately, take me into your mind a little bit? Nah, I mean, I'm a great counter score wrestler, and so when he got to my legs, you can kind of get a sense that you might be Fucked but you're not fucked fully so

So, you know you're in between of halfway of like gosh am I am I gonna get fucked or am I about to so I mean You get the sense of like, okay, it's about to happen And so I get taken down with 20 seconds left. I'm looking at the clock like Gosh, I got to get up But you know in wrestling if you've been around wrestling and you know taking down 20 seconds left, I'm looking at the clock like, gosh, I got to get up. But you know in wrestling if you've been around wrestling and you know starting in the parterre position and getting taken but getting taken down and having to build up from the stomach is a lot harder because guys can hang on you don't

have to start in the regular position. So man, I'm getting full weight on top of me. I'm trying to build up and it was just it just wasn't my time and I'm cool with that and there's nothing wrong with not having your time and not having your day because I feel that I do all the other times that I probably could have pulled it off but that day it just wasn't my day and it happens. Anytime you're going into a gladiator like sport you're exposing yourself obviously in front of millions hundreds of thousands of people watching in and every once in a while

you're gonna get caught you've only lost three match. I mean Your records are absurd. That's why when I was reading the shit on the internet of people's like celebrating your loss I'm like, let's not forget here The reason why this is such a big thing is because of how damn dominant you have been tell me about Hendrickson though a little bit obviously a massive respect for him and you have to have respect for every one of your opponents but tell me about Him as a wrestler because if I go back to the Olympic gold medal You wrestled a big dude to write dude those bigger than you I take you do you have kid to win? bigger than you

Good keep going you can Know I'm gonna say she felt like the same situation there. He was a little bigger It looked like he was a little bit bigger than you maybe yeah, you're just a little bigger But you know, I it's a gladiator sport you want want to go out there and fight, you want to go out there and battle. And that day was not my day to win a battle. And there's nothing all the always at the end of the day, I think people were going to get a reaction. And we're waiting for a reaction me to act in a negative way towards the crowd and towards the Hendrickson and, and bring out a different side of me. But we go toe to toe, we put it on the line. And a lot of people are going to say a lot

of things about, hey, he lost. But what I've done for wrestling, I think, is unimaginable. I've done out there in one Olympic gold in the last second. I've won two Dan Haas trophies at heavyweight, which no one else has ever done. Two national titles, three time in the finals, five time All-American. My resume stands for itself. And I could probably keep going on it but a quick search can help that out.

So I mean, like we talked about, it wasn't a day and it happens. It's a gladiator sport and I'm a warrior. Well, Gable, that's why I wanted to kind of follow up and ask because I'm kind of, you know, your comeback, which has been one of the cooler stories in college wrestling that we've seen, you lost at the end, but you don't sound like you lost. I'm wondering at the end of all this, considering where you came from, what you've been through, the different things, coming back to the top and the brink, do you consider it a success or are you like, it would have been a success because like, how do you view this entire

climb and the way it ended up? Man, that's a great question. I woke up today, you know, it's crazy. It's crazy. Like, like, I think we, I think for a long time now I've been, I've been like, damn, like I get to wake up, I get the, like, I have a home, I have a house, like I get to eat like good food, I get to see the world, I get to go places that nobody may ever see. And, and I think a lot of people were expecting just a really bad reaction For me and but but at the end of the day like I've done so many great things

I've met so many great people I've been in so many great places and that I'll never take that for granted and that's why That was the main reason why I wanted to come back to University of Minnesota after leaving in 2022 was I wanted these kids to See that you can be some special Whether you win or lose you can change the sport You can be a guy that people want to look at and take pictures with and and hang out with after the duels and after The matches so it it it's not doing the world for me. Like I said, the Sun the Sun is shining right now I'm happy to see that the skin is glowing. I'm smiling the teeth look good and I'm ready to be here Yeah, they certainly do and the resume is packed and we can't wait to see what you do next

Thank you for taking the diamond. Thank you. No, it's a wrestling what you did man. You're the best Now I appreciate you Pat. Thank you everyone else. I appreciate you So cool part of the program cable the program gave us deep so he That was so fascinating to watch and obviously that's a reaction You know that you're gonna get especially when you have that much success and you're that notable you're that known Especially in that heart of a sport like that's my big takeaway. He goes after his resume is already made. Okay already created He's already rich. He's got an IL deals or everything. Everything's already been talked about Okay, I already created he's already rich. He's got an IL deals. We've ever been everything's already been talked about

Then he goes back and chooses to go back in like day to day of wrestling is miserable I got is just it is miserable. It is so hard It is so they're showing clips of him just running laps in the wrestling match in Minnesota It's like that guy's already a millionaire, you know, he's already successful He's running around these college kids still just like going all the way back in because he still had eligibility. I got massive respect for his work ethic and I believe Hendrickson will be joining us at some point this week as well to talk about his win over words, but over Gable. But Matt Madness is electrifying. You find yourself watching and there hasn't been as many because I think it's because the underdogs haven't really continued to go. there hasn't been as many just like blowouts

You know, there's been a lot of games that like you kind of are sticking around there's some games obviously over early You can tell but whenever there's bad game we were able to hop over to Matt Madness last couple years. It's fucking Electrifying they need to move that Lita Madness have you ever been like I was just thinking for me, like I have three sporting events that I've never been to that I would die to go to. Masters obviously one, college World Series in Omaha, two when I covered Mississippi State and Alabama

they never went, which is annoying. Matt Madness to me is up there because it seems unbelievable in the building. And like I have like my oldest son Max did wrestle and we've talked about going like that I think that event would be live in person would be absolutely insane Yeah, I agree. There's also that cheese chase That happens over here if we'd like to see you

I've seen the Netflix on that. It's yeah, tell me what country is it in? I your I've seen the Netflix on that. It's yeah, tell me what country is that in? Your Switzerland, I hear Switzerland. Yeah, sure Germany They're not all the same I've been some of the other way I'm sure you have they didn't want you there. They were happy you left Especially if you ever come here to Scotland, I don't think they're gonna treat you too too kindly. With that being said, I have to go roll and do my thing. Rappaport, if you could please wrap up this show in an epic fashion, I'd be grateful. I got you.

It's been fun. Boys, I'll see you tomorrow. Boys, I will see you tomorrow. Good show, brother. Enjoy. Rappaport, thank you so much for traveling over there. I will see you next time. Thank you for taking the time for the boys.

I'm going to go do my thing. This is gonna be a beautiful time here in Glasgow. These fans are pretty pretty insane. What is usually in that building you're at? So this is the Ovo Hydro. 10,000 plus. I don't know the exact number. They do all the good stuff here. They do all the good stuff. So many so much good stuff so much so much so much Good stuff. It's almost hard to list it all out because there's so much good stuff like if these seats could talk it would say so much good stuff and

That's what I'm expecting tonight is gonna be awesome. Very very updated arena like the chairs Teeth are very nice in the back very like it is very clean I don't know how many events happen here, but I will say it is wonderful and These European crowds are insane rap. That's kind of thing first European WWE show Not just they take their soccer energy in their hooligan energy into wrestling So they sing they understand that the fans in wrestling really matter. So like, I've only got to watch European WWE shows, but basically my whole life as of late, they've been coming over here more,

wasn't able to get to Belgium because it was the day after selection Sunday for March madness. And there was a lot going on. We had a lot of coaches joining us. So this is my first European show. I am very, very pumped to be in the building and feel these fans because they are a Massive part of the show and these motherfuckers are wild and Today should be no different. I can't wait for it. I appreciate the hell out of you boys. I'll see you tomorrow. Okay? You guys ever been you've been to soccer games over there right now. No, no, no, of course none of you guys No, actually, I mean we're a big soccer show, but no are we a big soccer show? No, maybe company company Maybe he's been over there. I've never been only a games in the US rap sheet. What did you think about?

Cena's Hilltower In the promo you cut last week. What'd you think? I was, I know all about it. Geez, we just got him in the fucking watch. I saw the memes, everyone sent it to me in varying fashions. Okay. I couldn't believe that he turned heel. It was shocking.

Yeah, I took down all my posters. Sure, just figured that. Which I think was too bad. Max jude just tearing each other apart man when they you know They came to wrestle mania with me. They could not have loved wrestling more. Oh, yeah. It's infectious I mean because you know, obviously they love you guys and they love pat and so they've watched his match Like a million times in my house and they are Yeah, what state do you send them to for school? Yeah, what's that place called is a bivouac is what we know you send them away for the summer I

send them away for the summer not for school although some people do that I know mm-hmm one of my neighbors actually is from one of those other countries and he went to school starting at like seven like sleepaway school like that's what they oh yeah boarding school very legit seven Oh, yeah, AM or in the Northeast there's I mean Bjorn Verner And he wasn't seven, but he came over what 14 15 years old. That's so crazy He what is that's like very common prep school private school Northeast like P. I mean I went to the states away Oh, I went to countries. I went to school with a kid who was from Mexico City

High school. I had a foreign exchange. We had a foreign exchange. They say Kim Jong-un went to high school in like Switzerland. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, learn something new every day. Yeah, I mean it seems insane now I mean people will say it's insane when I do it to my kids set up for seven weeks So I don't know if everyone's down for that, but that I justify that I think it's awesome for them School seems like sending away for the whole year seems different. No, I was saying for soccer though, like what Pat's talking about with like their energy,

they do not, nobody has conversations in soccer games. You sit next to a person, you cheer and that is it. And then you also, when it's halftime, you go drink your face off, like as much as you can at halftime, then you come back. Yeah, because you can't drink in the seats. Yeah, that's stupid stupid. I mean soccer is but just that in general is stupid Yeah, that's why I May or may not have tickets to the Dortmund soccer game that is gonna happen. I think in net life

in the summer They always do that tour. Yeah, I'm all the good guys always playing those really Marco Royce sure believe they have a marker Royce jurors. I don't think he still plays for them But he does plays for LA or LA galaxy now. Does he? Yeah, I think I remember Extremely closely But yeah, it is anyway All right But yeah, anyway, all right. Dormin's doing well in the Champions League.

Are they doing well? Yeah. We don't care. Not in the league, in the Champions League. Take it easy, F1. Yeah, coming from the F1 guy. Exactly, I gotta take the challenge. I told you I was the fakest F1 guy.

I respect that, are you watching Netflix? I watch my Netflix. You're going to Canada, you all right? We're thinking about it. Think about it, like the guys I was in Montana with we're discussing maybe going to a little Montreal boys trip to Montreal She's not gonna be thrilled we have not actually hopefully she's not watching because I have not mentioned it yet Um, we'll see no she went on a girls trip to Montana the same thing. So the girls Kind of a double whammy exactly All right, good stuff. I want to go back to what our good friend Daniel Jeremiah was talking about

I like football and I want to talk about football. Okay, which is The quarterback landscape yeah right because we obviously talked about we talked about Aaron Rodgers we talked about where he's going which I think I think the Steelers sort of seem like the most likely choice at this point although the Giants have certainly not ruled out he hasn't visited him has not has not visited the Giants which I don't know that that really matters he's never been a MetLife. Hmm He's not gonna like competing with Jameis. No, he's not

the Okay It is I'm just I'm going through it in my head and the reaction to Jameis signing with the Giants was so weird to me like he's a starter I Think people maybe didn't watch last year. What are you talking about? He got beat out like he got benched, right? Is this the same guy listen? Let's not judge what happens in Cleveland about what happened because also remember Joe Flacco led them to the playoffs Was one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL for that 10-game stretch and then they said see you later So that could happen and everyone was loving Denver's defense. What did J Moe do?

Oh, he just put up a casual 40 on them I don't understand how that could be the same guy who was not good at his DTR like last year Listen, I'd DT are. He's a great young kid. But like they benched him for him and they traded Yeah, and then traded him for Kenny Pickett. They couldn't let James start because they knew what would happen Hey, this guy's gonna take the starting quarterback job He's never gonna look back and we're paying another guy fucking $800 million. So we need to make sure he's out there. No, I was thinking back to it was the five year anniversary of

Brady signing in Tampa. Right. And five years early. I mean, which also was like, that was early COVID. So I remember Brady couldn't get a physical had to go to like New York or something like that to get a little thing was crazy But I was reminded you talk about like the NFL revisionist or like, you know going back to sort of like sliding door What if do you guys remember that? The Bucks offered Jamis a contract Around the time in mobile because he was gonna be a free agent

He didn't accept and then they pivoted to Brady. No, I did not like literally offer after his 30 30 year This was right I think at that I think it was it was either pre LASIK or right when he got LASIK and that was gonna fix everything Which it has not Had James accepted the contract I have like it's kind of like I don't know The the NFL like what might have happened had that sliding door closed for the Bucs is like I don't know. That's what I found myself ready playing with Rable in Tennessee Maybe because it who was it?

It was Darlington when they I remember on ESPN they have like a whole entire board and it was like Tennessee was one of the Teams there's one other I don't know why I can't remember it and then Darlington actually I think it was the weren't the Chargers in on it. Yeah, I think they also made an offer that's when Philip Rivers left and then Darlington grabbed the you know the pen and he went over and wrote on the LED board like Tampa Bay Buccaneers And that's I assume that was probably around the time that James kind of slid out and then Tampa won a Super Bowl Wow Yeah, and Brady held up four fingers and people didn't remember didn't know what down it was There's an eye football Nick Foles was the starter then in the bit for the Bears, yeah

He refused to shake his hand for that game, too Crazy I respect the pettiness so absolutely much then it felt best I wish someone did the entire theory last year where like they shouldn't release free agent reports and then Week one you find out where all these new players go. That's the one rule. I would want to impose I would be sweet. Hold on So you wouldn't know where free agent sign you want to know offseason trades you want to know anything and then week one Of the NFL season suck for you. Boom. Yeah, your job gets completely turned We turn the TV you're fired and we're like, holy shit Rogers on the Steelers. Yeah DK be thrown to DK

Is George Pickens gonna be part of that I want to see record I think he is if they It's not I want to be careful about the aggregators because I'm aware of but I would say it's not a hundred hundred percent because there's always a little bit of like first of all, like let's say they don't sign Rogers and it's Mace dog. Yeah, like George Pickens gonna be that that happy. I don't know probably loves me loves Mace Big fan of Mace. Okay, although Pickens did say the one guy who'd want to play with his Aaron Rodgers He did say that too. I mean those two should be together if George Pickens is like if George Pickens is that's really someone asked him one teammate

You could have and this is years ago. Oh Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. They're pretty cool, man It's so the the angst around Rodgers and I find it so Hilarious like Pat sort of alluded to it a little bit It's like everyone's like why would you make a decision and I'm kind of like what are we gonna talk about when he makes a decision? Like true just it's all draft. He's the last thing and then it's all draft and Ross. What do you mean? Feels like nobody wants for us Yeah, you said you're like that contract is gonna be yikes. I mean, yeah

I don't I mean that speaks to how much people care now Did I want him to be the Steelers quarterback again this year? No, did you want him last year? I've talked myself into it. Um, you did I mean, but he didn't I don't think he played bad enough to get Kind of how he's being treated right? Sorry, my wife just texted me, I guess she is watching. Oh, I thought that face was like. Bye bye Montreal. Hope you're going up there.

Sorry. I thought that was a breaking news face. It's worse. She says you're going nowhere. Make up. Sorry. Not. Good run for you though.

It's okay. Hope you enjoy Montana. She's going anywhere. It's not a, as I told her very nicely, it's not a quid pro quo, but I want her to go on all the girls trips She possibly can because I want her to enjoy herself and have a great time with her friends Well, and you guys get that cool eight weeks like we talked about where you're sending the kids Well, you guys get to do anything. We have to plan it this year. We got we got to get out

We've been a little busy. We have to figure out where we're going. It's a whole you went to Europe last year, right? Oh Now she's texting me again. Yeah, went to Europe last year. I learned all the different countries that Pat was talking about. Of course you did. You did a great job with that. So we have had this off season,

those record breaking contracts, market changing contracts, Miles Garrett, Derrick Stingley, Jamar Chase now they all kind of reset the market. Can we expect any other big time extensions before the draft? Before the draft, I don't know. Talk about the Steelers, right? If TJ Watts got a year left, I know getting something done with him is something that

the Steelers want to do. I mean, that's a guy, you know, you want to make sure he's around until the end of time. So like, could he become the next to Eclipse 40? I think he could. Wow. Okay. I think he could. With Pittsburgh?

With Pittsburgh. Cause if you're TJ Watt, like why would you sign unless it's, like if you're as good as Myles Garrett, and I think he is. No doubt. Then that's what he should be getting. Is that the consensus around the people that you speak to that he's in that same, I know a lot of people see him,

you know, one A, one B maybe, and some people that I've talked to may see Miles Garrett as clearly the top guy at this point like football people yeah numbers was successful well I mean numbers you know numbers are numbers numbers don't lie to me it's it's 1a and and one like I would I think they're at least comparable certainly just as decorated but I think the problem is if you're TJ watt and let's say you accept a contract that's 35 million a year great deal 28 gonna be rich whatever it is, right? But then everyone's gonna know that you're a bit lower. Like it really does sort of set where You are as far as like in the hierarchy You know, we're number T. J. Wall Why like why would you not like you want higher so everyone knows?

This is bad numbers do matter when it comes to contracts for sure. I think I know I've never been in a negotiation But what about Micah? Mike it's gonna be higher. Yeah. See Michael's younger too. Oh, yeah, so like six years younger How old is TJ Walker? 31 I think they're the same age. Oh ma's ma's 29, but I'll be 30. Yeah It's like basically a year apart. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's a big no Mike is only like 25 Yeah, I think I think Michael will probably just me so Michael probably Hutch

Probably the next guys. Yeah, what about coming off the broken leg rap sheet? Does that change anything at all? I don't think so. I know well timing wise. I don't think so I know well timing wise I don't think so all right I'm sorry timing wise yes actual out like what it'll end up as I don't think so like the Lions have been very very proactive and locking up their studs early like Penny Sewell got a huge deal early Amon Ra, Ali McNeil like they lock up their guys really early because they're smart I mean this is it's like They I'm trying to remember what I'm gonna deal with I think I'm gonna do is 28 million over the first three years average, right? I think that's what I thought was 30 Thought he got to the third. I think the overall number was 30. I think it was four for 120 overall

It was that sounds right? Yeah, right and then 28 over the average over the first three and so like that's an awesome deal Yeah but they end up saving the money because all the receiver deals after like Brandon you comes in at 30 and then it's sort of like well You'd rather have Amin Ra than Brandon are you great? No doubt like so that's that ends up saving the money So doing that early. So anyway, I would imagine huts get hutch gets done As soon as they are absolutely 100% sure that he's healthy and ready to roll. What about purty? We've been talking about the party contract for like two years now and now it's kind of time and they've obviously

It's time moved on from a bunch of people. I don't know how they can are they still Trying to ship people out of the building. I know I you was kind of Rumored rather by some people to get treated. Is that still happening or it was gonna get party this year It was well first the IU thing that was more than rumored like that was confirmed by John Lynch that was the craziest thing is like usually that kind of stuff like Sonic got to a contract and oh you might trade him. Usually people like that's ridiculous John Lynch was literally like on local radio was like well, you know, you surely have to consider everything like But you know, is he gonna be ready for the season? Is he gonna be healthy?

I'm not sure like I could see him sitting out the first couple of game like that was a serious injury here So who would trade for someone when you don't know? Yeah the Browns People have said that they might The Browns. People have said that they might. I mean, they actually tried to trade for him last year. Same in New England. New England, yeah. New England being the other team for every free agent

and every trade wide receiver was like my favorite sort of side storyline of the agency. Me too. It was the Steelers for a while. Until it got DK obviously. Stefan Diggs in the building now. Oh yeah. Sounded like that went well.

He didn't sign, so how well could it have gone? Well, but he's only like four months out from ACL surgery. So like, it's, I'm like a, you know, during free agency, free agency is so hectic, right? You go to the combine and it's like, you might have some drinks, you stay out late, brain is all scraped. Getting a fight with a guy in a Starbucks

I didn't get your pants scream for security All those things So annoyed when people were like you got into a fight with something. I didn't get into a fight with anyone I just stood there why somebody else tried to get into a fight with me Did you cross your arms? No, I because you should have ball tapped them in a fight Cup check No, I was standing there

I carried coffee around all the time at the combat because I'm also freakin tired and so I had coffee in one hand So like even if there was some sort of something I probably would have had to like ruin my suit But not because of what you said, but because I would have stayed reported that I didn't know if That was yeah Who reported that I think it sounds like a floor is that my floor? Yeah, it might have been Florio said that like they had like pictures from like the hotel you soiled your you know Pants and you're crying into tissue Yeah, that was the only thing Florio had literally the whole thing word for word like two hours bar How many people were in there?

It was packed. 50? Holy sh- and everyone like record scratch. Yeah. Stop what they're doing. Holy sh- The most ridiculous thing is, I mean I guess it doesn't necessarily hurt to say this, it's like, so you've seen the picture right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mike Garofolo took the picture and then sent it to literally everyone. I mean that's an insider move. So it's like, how did this picture get out? I follow took the picture and then sent it to literally everyone So it's like how did this picture get out I love that move I know how this picture got out like Garifola sent to do everyone he knew and Which like

I'm like, he's a good friend. You would have thought he might have bit doesn't sound like it rap She know it's like shouldn't he have jumped in it like it's done something steady was like all right like let's take this picture And then we all want to hold it. That's good reporting. I mean he knew that was good He's all a man. This is gonna just steal all the headlines this week is all anyone's gonna be able to be talking about Yeah, it was honestly a bad move for him not tweeting it Who's the third? Yeah, so Jeremy did he tuck tail or did he jump in there and you were talking to father before Schultz came over and said what's up mother fucker? I was talking to an agent like who you can't see who's actually a cut a lot of picture His two agents once to

the left and then one is behind yeah but yeah Fowler I love Fowler like he just but he just stood there how about something like yeah and Schultz has the tweet is that fucking right eyes on he's got the crazy eyes going yeah big time yep and you can see me kind of like yeah leaning left like geez we'reo Get away from is this the first time some shit like this has happened to you in your career Does that yeah? Yeah, I mean then Dellinger confront you after you tried to have sex with his wife No, she changed her name I'm like, oh. Oh, I forgot. Did you ever? No. I knew it was something. It was something. It was something weird like. Guys, wife is watching.

He told the story. He told the story on the phone. His wife is like a very well-respected White House reporter, by the way. And I'm sure she's not watching. But if she is, she's going to be. Well, I'm glad we're getting this out of the way, though, because that's the rumor you started on the show.

Clear it up. I start lots of rumors. That's your job, man. Yeah, it's part People are always like, okay, you know, can you believe like you like was that weird to be like in the center of all that? In the combine. I'm like I'm in the center of nonsense all the time. Yeah, true It feels like this free agency week wait before you do love nonsense I mean, this is why I'm in it like I was I mean not that is the reason sure

sure that was the first time that's ever happened usually people if they have like a like an actual beef will be like Can we talk about this like you know sure you mean let's let's sit and discuss. It's like gentlemen Yeah, that was not a it wasn't very gentlemanly. Do you get sick of it like how long do you think you'll keep going? But can you take a shower? Yeah, it's so much shit. And like when Woe is retired, I feel like it did kind of give some people the perspective of like, Oh, this stuff completely takes over Insider's lives. Like Woe is his whole entire thing about, you know, his friend's funeral. And he was like, holy fuck, I need to legitimately change my life. And that's why he left.

So you couldn't take a piss anymore? Yeah. Couldn't shower. I mean, I do all those things. you shower. Yeah, I showered this morning I just anxious doing it. No, I have my phone with me all the time in the show in the shower Okay, every time and every like going if you got to take a piss It's a great time cuz you come out you check your phone and you do you put it one of those like beach lanyards that you put In a plastic ziploc bag

No, I just let it ride. But when I was skiing, I had an attachment on, like it was tethered to my ski jacket so I could check on the lift. Sure. Yeah, that's smart. Okay. No. Did you have like the homeless guy gloves

sliced off at the top so you could still use your fingers if you needed to? Oh boy. Sticky bandits. Caught that. Yeah, exactly. The Marv merchants, if you will. I...

They sell great stuff. The Marv Merchants, if you will. I, uh... They sell great stuff. The Marv Ones. Those... Watching those idiots fall on the traps is still one of my favorite sequences. Best part of Christmas, every year. I mean, I still, like, I'm... My humor is not exactly, like, high brow.

There we go. Bang. Classic. The Marv Ones. Yep. Must be very weird for them to be like Joe Pesci is like a legitimately accomplished actor Yeah, and this like I don't know if it's his most famous role, but it's definitely In the top he's like a goat farmer now. He actually just dead serious Daniel Stern. Yeah, yeah, right Yeah, Joe Pesci. He's not like Joe Pesci. Oh, I was a goat farmer. Yeah, he has like a farm and like does like,

like art inside like this massive warehouse. Yeah, he's kinda- Off the grid. Yeah. Like Giovanni Carmozzi. Giovanni Carmozzi's off the grid? Yeah, he's a goat farmer as well. Giovanni Carmozzi?

No, no, no. One of the Brady six. Oh. The quarterback that the Niners drafted that thought Brady was gonna be him. Gino Gaduli? No. I thought Gio went off the grid. There was a guy, do be him. Do you know Godouli? No There was a guy do you guys know who Jack Johnson is singer? Yeah, of course

Come on, my wife and I danced to that at our wedding by the way. That was your song That was that was our couple song. That was your wedding. It's good banana pancake waking up to her Anyway, I hear he is an avocado farmer now has like taking himself completely off the grid and is like a wildly successful Avocados from Mexico Those are from Oh from yeah, he still lives in Hawaii though, right? Does he do so? He's touring a couple years his vibes like Hawaii. I don't know Anyway, that would be I mean say talk about the woge thing Yeah, the amount of people who've asked me like oh you can know, you know retire and become like a GM of College I'm like that's not me like, oh, you can retire and become like a GM of college.

I'm just like, that's not me. GM of the Columbia crew team? I would be. Alliance? Do we have NIL deals? No. No, I would be a. Change the game, bro.

25 bucks in New Wars for your boat. I get it done. There's money in crew. I know that. You go do crew and then you become like an investment banker or something. That's basically what everybody does. So it's not in crew, it's in the people in crew. I know you go you go do crew and then you become like an investment banker some of this Yeah, so it's not a crew. It's in the people in crew. No, yeah, I know what you're saying. So is Purdy gonna get paid What do you oh, yeah, pretty

That's I think he's gonna get paid The contract is so hard because it's like I Think what you'd sort of like is like, all right Well, he made almost no money the whole time So like maybe he'll sort of inch his way up But like all those guys like he should be in the 50s, right? Yep Yeah, but I think when people think about him they talk about him more like he's a 30s or 40s court No, I do. Oh, you know what I mean? He'll do. Oh, yeah

They talk about him like he's gonna get like a darn old contractor Right Baker concept. It's like no if you didn't know where he got and I hate I hate this about The draft because like because he was drafted last. Oh, yeah people still think about him like he's the last pick but it's like Like who's more accomplished Justin Herbert or Brock Purdy Purdy Purdy? I mean Purdy's more accomplished than basically everybody up there except for Jalen Hurts Yeah, and jerk all similar right jerk. Oh similar, right? Jerk I would say I would say burrows similar, but I would damn near put hurts Purdy either Adam or above

Right. I mean that's but that's but this is the problem cuz no one I mean you not got all this like it's like players get Players get discussed from the drafts Yeah, that draft position sticks with you. That's why we saw, partly why we saw Stingley just reset the market the way he did. He was the number three overall pick. He lived up to that. All the, most of the guys that kind of break that barrier and reset markets, usually those are top tier, first round type picks.

And that just sticks with you throughout. When I was Garrett, obviously he's been great. First overall pick, you don't expect that from him. That's why Hutch, Hutch would be the next guy. Michael Parson, same thing. But I think Brock Purdy will definitely jump into that 50 year. I don't think anybody in the next couple years

would jump that 60 million mark. Once Josh Allen kind of redid his deal and stayed at 55, I think that's kind of gonna hold it back. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Hold him back, you mean that's like this? No, the next guy, I mean, the salary cap, it jumps up so much next year,. Yeah for sure. Yeah, hold them back. You mean that's know the next guy I mean the salary cap it jumps up so much next year

So I'm sure there will be a guy soon But once I think that surprised me that Josh Allen took that 55 a year Obviously the guarantees are huge but that gap right now with Dak is that I don't think anybody jumps that just just like Miles Garrett just like Stingley with that big five million a dollar a year gap I think that'll remain at a dollar a year gap. I think that'll remain at least for another year. How about Lamar? I think he goes back.

He's got a big number coming up, big cap number coming up. What about Patrick? What about Mahomes? Yeah. Oh yeah. Mahomes is tougher because he took the long deal, obviously to help during the COVID, to help them build. But I do wonder if at some point, like with trying to figure out where the Josh Allen deal

comes in is tough, because basically what they did is something no teams ever do, they ripped up the deal. They just said, we're gonna give you a new deal and it's 55, right? Instead of like, we're gonna tack on two years and in many years you're gonna be at 60, took a new real deal that like You know that that three years left, right? Yeah, okay with her nothing up was four years. Okay, four years left, you know

and so like Would my homes do that knowing it might hurt the Chiefs as far as like player acquisition like I don't know that he would I think he's more of long. I think He's more along the Brady plan of like You guys can say I'm under value, but I'm gonna keep competing for shoot bowls. Yeah Don't you think he's good enough though where like even the guys they bring it I'm like they bring in some of these older veterans who aren't gonna be making a bunch of money anyway It's like it's not like D hop was gonna be getting a ton of money from them Like he could be like, you know what? It's been I've done this enough

Like I'm already the the the best quarterback in the NFL Arguably the one of the best court maybe the best quarterback ever like it's time I'm the highest paid guy in the NFL and I'll I'll make the guys we bring in better anyway God, I think about this all the time I mean you like if you're Mahomes, do you get a note? And I think Brady, I mean, you know him better than I did, but I don't think he cared really about what people said about, I mean,

he took below market deals for years. Did he, I mean, it didn't seem like he cared, right? Yeah, he didn't seem like, but for Mahomes not to be on this, like as long as this is, that's asinine. And obviously Brady and all these big-time Yeah, they got so much shit going on off the field for him You know endorsement wise and things like that that they're gonna be good And you know, you know part of people that represent, you know my homes and all those things

But for him not to be on this deal and this obviously list will only get longer is crazy at this point You guys were talking about I didn't even I I didn't even think about it. He's literally not on there Yeah, I don't even think he's close. He's like 40 something or obviously obviously His deal was kind of funky last year, but he too so maybe he doesn't care but like also that's bullshit You know like I can't imagine if he sees this and he's just like whatever. I've won a couple super bowls It's like I mean like we're talking about with with the edge rushers it's like sum of money is What you are not worth money wise but like we are ranking so like I like to your point like I kind of wonder I

Don't know like we know he's the best Where's where's he at? What's the app so forty four? Yeah, I mean that was the original deal and then where's the cash? Can you hit the cash button? There we go So yeah 40 so 50 so 50 this year Yeah, so 45 and a half last year or whatever so 50 this year, but like would be a good time I mean he's got you know a cap number. That's large. This would be a good time for it I just don't know like is he gonna demand it You think he just doesn't give a fuck or he's happy. Yeah, maybe he wants people to be like this is the least

Selfish guy cuz like he's made money. He's making a lot a lot of money outside of the NFL's well I was a couple teams. I would say with that. Part ownership, Royals. Royals and the soccer team. That's my whole thing though, because I know he's into that stuff and more money definitely helps. I'm bringing in too much. Like if he wants to be in ownership groups for teams, more money would definitely help with that.

I mean, and like Brady, you know, Brady obviously gets some criticism or whatever you'd call it for being part owner of the Raiders and obviously he's with Fox and it's sort of like, you know, like Florio rips them all the time, for better or worse. I wonder if that's going to be sort of the new currency to be like, when you're Mahomes and you see Brady doing it, and God forbid, he wins in Vegas, like, is Mahomes going to be like, what's my team? Because everyone talked about Peyton Manning doing this. Never did did it with Denver. Yeah, or like I

Think we thought with Tennessee Saints maybe or don't know is Tennessee. That's right We're people we kind of thought he would buy and he didn't I got wonder of my homes is like This is me. This is my next kind of frontier, but you're right. You need money for that You're in the fell baby. Mm-hmm. I don't know I I I would say like to to brady and I was thinking about this because I was in you know Where I was skiing it was a lot of brady talk and actually Talk about the jordan schultz thing. I did talk to a source really close source who witnessed The brady rogers meeting on the slopes. Mm literally witnessed it and And I was told, according to a source, they skied into each other, not like into each other,

but chatted, skied together, and then that was it. Good source. Did they race? They probably had to have raced. Yeah, they raced. They didn't talk about it, but they just did it. I mean, I assume Brady is a pretty good skier, right? Oh yeah.

I mean, he's not that great of a golfer. You'd think he'd be better. He's pretty good at golf. He's not bad. He hit that hole in one remember from the middle of the fairway. All right was this the drone shot? Yeah yeah yeah remember that was real so I don't know is he a good golfer I think he's probably better than me I assume. He's pretty good. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, but anyway, like I wonder, you know, the Brady angst over his Vegas stint, like I kind of wonder if he, if he makes them good, if he helps them be good, like I think this is going to be probably the biggest story in football is like led them back, helped hire Pete Carroll, got Gino who will see what he is.

But like, I don't know. Like, I mean, I don't know how bullish you guys are on Brady and the Brady Ownership and Brady steering of these of this team, but I think it's gonna be pretty freakin interesting going Yeah, definitely high on it, but you know Denver Chargers chiefs Yeah, tough division do we think any of those teams are getting worse? If I think Brady is a great story I think it is cool and I don't think it really matters what he does in Vegas because he's already you

know the greatest of all time but it's like are any of those three teams doing worse? But ownership is he could this is in ten years he could turn around. Freaking 30. He brings the Raiders to the national contention or contending for titles and shit and then next however many years or their Like year after year like that'll be as impressive as what he done as a football player Yeah with what the Raiders with the what the Raiders have been for the last what? Couple of years. Yeah, at least since just win baby I feel like our Davis days if he brings them back to promise cuz Raiders, you know, there's an iconic brand

You know in the NFL, but if he does that from the ownershipiders, you know, there's an iconic brand, you know in the NFL But if he does that from the ownership level, you know gets a team in there that can contend You know as decades year you talk about how tough that division is in the same division as Patrick Mahomes who is and Most opinion the second-greatest quarterback right now. That'll be you Wow. That'd be crazy. Yeah put some respect on Rich Gannon's name Most Yeah, put some respect on Rich Gannon's name. Yeah Most but How do you think they do that? With is G do you think G know like right now? Oh looking at the team like it'll be better. Yeah They still got great pieces there

Better than Gino Smith. No, I do not Absolutely, but it will be it'll be the next iteration cuz Pete Carroll's only gonna be around for probably four more years tops Like he's not coaching into his 80s. I was thinking three would be like and and that's why Yeah, yeah 73 somebody that turn in 73 I think that's why I was so interested and like it's funny a culture is like, you know Culture is like so insanely important and I don't know how good they're gonna be this year My guess is better cuz certainly we're not gonna be worse. It's an easy guess, yeah.

I mean, that's not exactly probably not. Fucking suck, yeah. But like, right. But like, getting someone to teach everyone the culture and understand how to like be a professional is so much of it. Like, the stories you would hear out of the Raiders building the last couple years,

not exactly a bastion of professionalism. Like not great. And like even people who did a really good job there, like Dave Zegel was the GM, I would argue he drafted, well, Telesco drafted really well his one draft, but like there's so much other clutter, noise, nonsense dealing with all the time that like. Well now they also have the Wiz kid at GM, too, so That's I think that'll be good, too Jimbo Gladstone was with the well The Wiz kid Spytex John Spytek yeah one of the bucks. Yes bucks disciples

Yeah, Tom met him down in Tampa and said well this guy's the way he's getting. So like what would you say is bringing them back success? You're saying this year or the next five, ten years? Yeah, like playoffs every year and then So like a consistent thing not like a conference title? Yeah consistent. Yeah consistent. And he's the ownership So he's gonna be there I would Assume for a while and if he's coming in day one and Mark Davis is kind of giving him it seems like from what we've heard that he hey you're kind of running the show and for the next you know five ten fifteen once again Pete Carroll era will be short we all assume Gino we don't know how long he'll be there but if you get a coach GM quarterback you have like okay the Raiders are in the

conversation year and you're out and then actually competing you know AFC titles you know division wins like finishing fourth you know, division wins, like that'll be. Not finishing fourth every year. Yeah, that'll be, I mean, they got some pieces. Max is still there, Brock Bowers is still there. I kinda wondered if Max would kinda be like. Well, I wonder if that's part of the reason why they get someone like Pete, like a serious head coach

who can kinda stabilize things and get them going in the right direction. Yeah. Cause like one more year of them being really bad, he might've been like, fuck this place, I wanna go win somewhere. I mean, going into the, it's funny, I always look back at our Super Bowl storyline,

it's what we talked about Super Bowl Sunday, and it was like, is Max Crosby gonna stay, or is he gonna ask to be traded? Is Mike gonna stay, or is he gonna, and it seems like everyone probably stays, I mean, we got some good clicks out of it, but it seems like everyone stays. But like that was really a question.

It's like is he gonna believe in this place enough to where like I'll actually stick around. And the other thing was is we all thought that Gino was gonna get an extension in Seattle. And this was like the arc of this was so crazy because like free agency week, it's like I knew they were having Negotiations with Gino. I knew they weren't getting anywhere

I knew it was like sound like there was like a full communication breakdown in Seattle with Gino and then all of a sudden You start to hear confidence from like the Sam Donald world of like, okay, wait a minute like something is going on and like that's how we ended up figuring out that he was going to be traded because it was like Hold on like I remember here We heard of a secret conversation with Raiders in Seattle during the combine where they talked about a genome trade that involves Metcalf and max I think if I remember this correct. Yeah, everyone kind of laughed about it But they didn't stop talking. It. Everyone kind of laughed about it, but they didn't stop talking.

It was just kind of like, whoa, that's crazy. And I was like, all right, if there's secret conversations there, if they're ready to move on from Gino because they didn't get a contract extension, like what the heck is going on? And then trading him and Darnold was like, once that happens, like that's obviously

where Darnold's going. So did other teams make offers to Darnold? Or was that the best offer? I think that was I think that was the only offer I think I was because I don't it wasn't like it wasn't like Gino was on the block It was like this team has engaged and then I think they were sort of like all right We know each other obviously Pete and John no I mean for Donald was that the only offer Donald got It wasn't the only offer, but he was the only offer close to there well, I uh, I

Don't know that there were other formal offers I would say but like it did seem like like Unless it was that's not true minute Vikings had an offer. They offered him Vickers had not but it wasn't that close No, their offer the Vikings offer, I believe, was more in the 20s. How many years? Damn. I think it was one.

Oh, so they wanted to give them just like a tag, but half a tag? I think that's what it was. Yeah. So like they were actually, I know the Vikings were like considering tagging him, Darnold, and then it's like tag him, tag him to trade him, and then they didn't end up doing it

because they wouldn't have in a market Yeah, they're ready to go to JJ. Yeah, but you offer that you don't take like you're ready to go to JJ But what about Gino now? He's traded word where the conversation with Vegas in the New Deal doesn't sound like they've really kind of got off Got off the thing like I don't I mean I'm sure they had I mean, I was actually surprised like I Would have thought a like a deal would have come with the trade yeah, cuz that's if you're you know that that'd be a way to do it, but I Mean, maybe they don't maybe there's I mean, I don't know they'll make them play it out

But that gets interesting if that happens very it's like yeah, then they're in the same situation the Vikings were in with Donald Where it's like do we tag him? Mm-hmm? Do we keep going? Like do we move on like? I don't know maybe wait see how the draft plays out. Yeah, well, that's how I was gonna say because obviously Brady in New England if Hunter and Carter are gone and should there's there at four. Could you see? they Brady in New England trade and they go back to six and then you know take whoever the fuck is there and the Raiders trade up. Yeah Raiders go to four New England back to six and then, you know, take whoever the fuck is there and the. Raiders trade up. Yeah, Raiders go to four, New England goes to six. I don't think, I hate doing this with the draft

because like everyone lies. It's all just fucking fodder, yeah. But I don't believe that the Raiders consider any quarterback to be that high. So I don't think they would come up, now maybe if Cam Ward suddenly was there, but that's what's like so interesting. And I think Daniel Jeremiah did a really good job of

explaining it is like the prospects are good the middle of the draft is good but like it feels to me now that should door and then a little bit later like maybe a couple other quarterbacks maybe but like it's like Jackson Dart sort of be in the 20s maybe but it doesn't seem like there's that many high ends so it's like like he's right like if Shador doesn't go three that's the biggest story of the draft and we know she goes for assume Jacksonville is not taking the quarterback to it Lauren so now in Brady I mean he knows should do or can we see the draft order again well and that they are like the whole door Gino thing and

the fact that they haven't given him a deal Yeah, makes it there's a chance. He doesn't go three That you know or Saints it now. I'm like 29. I've thought about I mean I'd say Jets at seven Yeah, I'm talking about anybody that needs a quarterback with especially with players like Garrett Wilson who are one of those Hey, I'm not gonna sit around on the fucking shitty team. Go get your boy, that can help. I mean, Fields didn't get bad money there. He didn't get started.

20, was it 20 million or something? Yeah, I mean, he got good money. That's the most money he's made. But you're right, it's not like we're set at quarterback. Now, I happen to be a big Fields fan, so I think he's gonna play well. Him and Bree Bryce Hall. And Garrett Wilson.

Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. I mean that's, but, I mean, there's a lot of teams that like sort of could use one, like the Saints are an interesting one to me. They're doing all the quarterback homework. I could see them, I know he mentioned the Browns being a team that could come back.

I could see the Saints coming back into the first round trying to take one. Late. You know, cause like that'll be, like Jackson Dard will be sitting there, Quinn Uers, who's got his pro day tomorrow. Like, might he be a late one? Maybe someone could come up.

Like, I don't know. Yeah, cause there's six teams in the top 10 that need courtbacks. The first three and then Raiders, Jets, Saints. Yeah. Which like, it's funny, like from my standpoint, like all I want is just draft chaos, right? Of course.

Absolute, like that's why we were talking about the Will Anderson trade, it's like that was freaking chaos. Like count me in for that, but if we see like, if Shador slides, biggest story of the draft, right there. Like no doubt about it. And then it's like, because the crazy thing for him, and you guys will have to let me know

what you think of this, but this is what I think about. If Shador Sanders goes to a team without a fully solid coach, with a coach who might be on the hot seat, he goes there. Is anyone talk, like, how many times are we gonna mention

could Dion be the coach of this team next year? A lot. right? Yeah Mm-hmm. Yep, no doubt. I mean that's that was a big conversation storyline with Dallas And he was it was in my opinion was obviously never going to Dallas. Yeah that's Contract, but that was still a big conversation. Hey Dallas you place Mike McCarthy damn should do or so Yeah, that is definitely you always talk certain prospects and then certain players even, you know, once they, it's just other shit that comes with them,

good, bad, or indifferent. Aaron Rodgers, it's gonna be a lot of shit that comes with Aaron Rodgers. Tim Tebow towards the end of his career, he's starting to be a tight end, a backup quarterback. It's gonna be a lot of Cam Newton. It's gonna be a lot of shit that comes with certain people. I think it's gonna be the same with Shador.

So yeah, that's a fair point. And obviously owners and people are attuned to what's going on with star story. They probably love it though Yeah, and that was like the let Dak walk thing because his contract wasn't really locked in it was like hey This guy could be a free agent and then they just trade up and trash the door and hire Deon But if you had a bet right now Would you obviously I don't which you can't yeah Would you say should there's going in cuz Gammor's going one It feels like that. Yeah, whether it's Titans or not. Yeah, and I and I I

Think the Titans are still in evaluation mode on Whether they're gonna trade or pick. Yeah, if it's not Titans, who is it? Giants probably be my guess is Bill Leves on the market then He's not on the market But I would say he's definitely someone I'm watching like I think there's a couple backup quarterbacks Which like he was benched last year, so I think it's fair to characterize him I think there's a couple guys that I'm sort of monitoring to back All right, like you mentioned Aiden O'Connell like couldn't like didn't come in with Pete teams need a bat

Like could he be on the move? I think there's Carson Malik Willis Malik Willis Like well, the Malik was played well last year. That's what I'm saying. You wonder second round pick first round pick Came in did not lose that first round. Yeah, baby to first round. There's a there's certainly a chance There's certainly a world in which that happens. I mean Joe Milton Joe Milton's going for a yeah first I mean Joe Milton is very very interesting going for a first. I mean Joe Milton is very very interesting. Would you you follow them as closely as anyone I know? What would you think of a Milton trade? Are you well I'm good. Go ahead. You go ahead. Yeah. Tell me personally. Give me your argument. My perfect

draft for the Patriots well they already brought in Dobbs so why carry three quarterback but my perfect draft for the Patriots is they take a, you know, Hunter or Jinty or Tyler Warren or something at four, and then trade back in to the first round towards the end and take one of those, you know, the Oregon tackle or one of those type of tackles that they really love. And you, you know, you really wouldn't have to give up that 38 pick because you know you trade Joe Mullen for a third Would you say you know two-thirds get you back into the back half of the yeah? I think that's probably right you know what I mean so like then you still have a pick in every single round

You're giving up Joe Mullen, and you're giving up. Let's just say 69 because it's the higher pick Oh, that's why you picked 69? No, I picked 69 just because, you know, I don't think 77 and Joe Milne get you there, but maybe, you know, saying that top 70 pick does. Um, and so then all of a sudden you're getting two first round guys in that 38. You know, everyone's talking about Abdul Carter at 38. Then you're getting one of those top pass rushers. So you're legitimately getting a

You know top tier player right at the top with a hunter or a gente or someone there to help Drake May you're getting a tackle In the back half of that, you know first round whoever that is And then you're also getting a pass rusher which you know I would put third in the list of things that the Patriots need just because Harold Landry Milton Williams Keon white Christian Barmore draft. I got right that would be is that for the Patriots? Yeah yes, a lot of people say Donovan Jackson saved Ohio State season because of all the Outline injuries and he basically was the rock on that on an island. Yeah, so and like Travis Hunter like all all cases is definitely who I would want the Patriots to get and I would he's wide receiver one and then he comes in You know in the red zone to play corner and then we just lock it down

It's so in like it's I was I mean, I know I felt surprised to hear Daniel Jeremiah say that like I say that he would be a turn the card in so I've listened to DJ on and move the sticks a ton him and bucky and then also field and kiper they all say that if travis hunter was just a wide receiver he would be the number one riders receiver in this draft class by far it would be a top 10 wide receiver by far yeah yeah if he was just wide receiver so that's all i would want and we don't need him at corner you got gonzalez and carlton i know but like if he was just wide receiver, so that's why I would want and we don't need him at corner You got gone Gonzalez and Carlton. I know but like If he is a locked down corner him and Gonzalez playing it and dude, that's mean

That's why I think the red zone you bring him in and then it's just like okay You have to throw it you get you leave guns on an island to hear me out here Okay, you leave guns on an island you double whoever Carlton Davis is on and then you leave hunter on an island and you send eight And you make him throw it and you make him throw it You make him throw it Engage eight throw it at Travis Hunter. Let's see if we can get a couple red zone picks That is legitimately what I would do. But also if Hunter and Abdul Carter are gone I think Jeanty would be awesome because like look what just happened, you know, the last two Super Bowls

Look what just happened, you know, the last two Super Bowls. God. Running the bowl. Mabel loves a running back. He loves a good running back. You know, Ramon Dre, Stevenson, and him, you know, that kind of has shades of Dave Montgomery and Jamiroh Gibson, didn't you say? I would.

I would. Tell you how much. Think about it, rap. The fact that a running back could be taken so early and no one's laughing is amazing. It has come all the way back. It's flipped. DJ thinks there's a chance that him or genti and a Mario and have to both go in the top ten Six or genti six he has just special to and then Hampton attended the Bears potentially that's interesting No Connor if they would have been better bears

I mean I would bears are another team I was actually thinking when you guys were talking all about and we were all talking about Gino Like people ask like, you know, who's the team that could I mean I feel like it's always the Bears Yeah, Seahawks would be one that I was thinking of Bears again like with the Ben Johnson addition and like They could be pretty good Every year with the Bears has it been every year? It's our year though. It's our year pretty much I'm sure them for a long. Yeah, well Pax fans

So yeah, I'm pretty sure that every offseason say see the Bears in free agency Bears might win fucking Ted games is sure there were years with the Panthers Those top 14s. I feel like there's just one clear team that has the best chance next year Thanks, I think we know what I'm talking about commanders They're not in the top four. Oh That is that is is clearly New England my friend Okay, so you think I mean there is one one every year who jumps out and has like it's happened the last two years

I say commanders. I was thinking of the commanders as that team Yeah, and the year before is the Texans. Yeah, the two pick. I'm just saying I'm just saying I mean better than five and twelve. That's for sure probably Who knows though, you know Jimbo Gladstone and Liam Cohen They might flip that thing around. Yeah, I mean Houston's got half an old line now. Yeah, I like the Gladstone I've no idea how good he's gonna be. I mean it seems like he has McVeigh loves him. McVeigh does love him Said he was a dog. He has but he is a little bit like like McVeigh got hired too early by the Rams

But they were like he's special and we don't care like we'll work with it because what do you mean too early? Well, so 30 years old No, but like when he when the Rams are interviewing him everyone said the same thing they're like he is it's he's not ready It's too young but we have to hire him because we might lose him and I'm sort of like Why would you hire a 29 but turn out to be one of the less needs said that when we had Him on the show last week. He was like in retrospect. We probably should have hired him earlier Hired him when he was 28 God less does so many things that Seem at the time to make zero sense and then just crushes it. Mm-hmm that scientists after he's done He's probably got to take a piss. Yeah We have been standing here for a very long time or poop or poop

He could have to poop. I think he had steak and eggs this morning That's kind of a recipe for a little fettuccine Alfredo right after yes exactly. That's kind of a big dump recipe That's gonna happen We got six minutes left. I don't know if he's gonna come back is that do we have to say goodbye to him if he doesn't Come back. I don't think so you're running the show Say goodbye to him if he doesn't come back. I don't think so you're running the show Your steer in this boat That hurts you did it to me on air

Austin guy too. We're at the league meetings. I remember it hurt my soul. I'm sorry, you know how I feel about you. I appreciate that. I fucked up. Yeah, listen, you gotta own it. That's I mean, hand up. No excuses. I fucked up. It's alright. You know, when I was covering in the locker room, you always appreciated those guys who give up a big play and stand up and go, that's on me. So. That's on me. That's what I do.

I've never shied away from that. I cheated on my math project when I was in high school. Teacher called me out. Did you really? Oh, yeah. You cheated on it? Copied the whole thing. Stop.

No, you did not. Oh, yeah. Did you get caught? Yeah. What? I got caught. Mr. P got caught mr. pine how'd you get caught how'd you get caught it was bar for bar my friend it was the exact same thing as someone else in my class and mr. pine called me in and I said I fucked up I got a zero you got a zero I got a zero yeah you didn't even give you the

answers right that like you had on your own It was all just oh every I didn't do one thing I basically changed the names on it and then I submitted it and then I you know I just I just kind of ate that bullet and up. I fucked up, okay Mr. Pym was like Honestly respect because I did this with three other people that cheated and none of they all denied it You're the only one that said I fucked up. That's amazing that being said you're gonna get a zero in detention Got a zero. I already notified your parents You're gonna have to ace the final to pass this class. I said, alright, mr. Pine. That's business, baby notified the parents

God. Yeah, I was tough as tough, you know going home didn't get ice cream that It was tough as tough, you know going home didn't get ice cream Say that much but I mean that's the risk you take when you cheat don't cheat kids Still less in here. Don't don't get caught. Yeah, I would say that'd be the other well that was the only time I got cut You don't want to hear about my Latin class No, certainly don't. Oh, wonderful lady taught that one. This is, you know, all stupid conversation though. I mean, I would say that's probably... I apologize for calling you that. Thank you. No, I don't think we'll ever... I can't come back from that.

I think we've done a great job of today of carrying this through. You too. Great work. Great work. I appreciate it. It's always fun to hang out with you guys. It's the best part of my day Yeah, it is good time. All right. That's all we got. Yep What do we need to keep him keep an eye out for hold on I'm listening my ear all right Keep an eye out for I'm glad you mentioned it Pat McAvee is gonna be on raw Four o'clock on Netflix. Oh, yeah, I will be watching. Yep Obviously like I always do.

I'm a huge wrestling fan, as you guys know. I think the Twin Towers are going to be on tonight. Sure. I don't know. That's my only wrestling reference. That was an old wrestling tag team. Don't look at me. I'm pretty new to it.

Hulk Hogan, I think is, no. Anyway, here's where you asked were watching before we go real quick Where the heck is that Roger's gonna sign sure where does Russell Wilson go after that nowhere which direction? Okay, that's the big boss man no they were the Mere con oh No, they were the mere con. Oh Man, I kind of does look like a bit. He's at Z the boss man's outfit was just Akeem at the keem right see boat. I mean The ultimate in racial appropriation there or ethical push appropriation anyway sure

What are the Titans do at one? Okay? These are like my story lines the next month What are the Titans do at one do they decide to pick if not to the Giants come up and? Then where the heck is everyone gonna get drafted plenty to carry us through over the next month Thank you guys for joining us you guys rock you make make me feel at home and I love hanging out with you. Join us tomorrow when the actual host, Pat McAvee, will hopefully be here assuming his JetBlue flight makes it on time. Sure. Thank you very much for joining us. Take care.