The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1317 - Elite 8 Recap, Ian Rapoport From The League Meetings, Duke Head Coach Jon Scheyer, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

On today’s show, Pat is LIVE from the O2 Arena in London ahead of Monday Night Raw, while AJ Hawk hosts from the ThunderDome with Darius Butler and the boys. They recap this weekend’s Elite 8 games and how this is the first year since 2008 that all four #1 seeds made the Final Four. They also discuss the Yankees usage of “Torpedo bats” taking over the MLB world after hitting 15 home runs in 3 games, and how everyone wants a piece of the action now, before chatting about all the different conversations happening at the league meetings in Palm Beach. Joining the progrum LIVE from the League Meetings is NFL Network Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport to discuss Aaron Rodgers throwing with DK Metcalf in LA, if there is a timeline on his decision, which of the potential rule changes will actually pass and be implemented including the tush push, Lamar Jackson’s new contract coming soon, and all the other pertinent information being discussed in Palm Beach. Later, 2x NCAA National Champion (one as player, one as assistant coach), All-American, and current Head Coach of the Duke Blue Devils, Jon Scheyer to chat about his team this year, stepping in after Coach K and how that process has gone as a whole, creating his own identity as Head Coach of Duke, how special his freshman class is including Cooper Flagg, what the Duke Brotherhood means, how they’re preparing for Houston, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here we go the Pat McAfee show. I'm AJ Hawke sitting in for Pat. He'll be joining us from London, England the 02 Arena I believe. Sports! Have been amazing Pat what's going on you this is awesome actually we can review strictly this is you are like what ringside ready to go tonight obviously Netflix London England how's it going over there man? Hey life is good AJ thank you for taking the trip to Indianapolis to host alongside the boys and Obviously Netflix, London, England. How's it going over there, man? Hey, life is good AJ. Thank you for taking the trip to Indianapolis to host alongside the boys. And obviously it's a great group over there in the Thunderdome. But let me let you know something.

This trip to London that I've had over the last 24, 48 hours has been nothing short of spectacular. I got a chance to enjoy the sights, you know. Have some booze away with the locals. You know, Wade Barrett, who is a part of the commentary team on SmackDown, formerly Bad News Barrett in the WWE from England. His team, Preston Northend, was in the FA Cup, I believe quarterfinal. They were taking on a squad and yeah, we boozed a little bit and watched that game yesterday. Then we went on a pub crawl myself, Michael Cole, Wade Barrett.

We want time to time. There's Winston Churchill right there. Let me tell you, he is a, uh, a revered gentleman over here. Okay. He obviously did his thing. We went to a couple of small pubs. This right here is James's pub. His mom, Suzanne started it in 1980. He's now the governor of the pub. He lives upstairs. It's old school. They gave me a Sunday roast of beef. I ate that thing you know probably gallons of beer we drank yesterday all around London a lot of a lot of lads were met and that right there is actually the laboratory that sets the world's time that that building right there I didn't want to walk all

the way up the hill I didn't I didn't find it that fascinating but I took a picture of it from afar that is where where you know, the world's time starts So I got a chance to see the town a little bit Wade Barrett and Stu is his name was walking us around him Yeah, I mean it was a wonderful day. It was like 65 degrees clear skies in the middle of March I got a little sunburn in London in March. Yes I might be the whitest of whites to have that particular stat, but it was a good time yesterday And now Preston North and Wade soccer team. They're not good. Okay. Well yesterday they were at least they lost 3-0 But the game before guess what they did AJ. What's that? They beat Burnley three nothing

Give up any goals this year. I thought yeah, we'll gave up three to press the north end. We're the one and only north end that's the chance I heard and any goals this year I thought. Yeah, we gave up three to press the North End. We're the one and only North End. That's the chance I heard and enjoyed. But yeah, it's been awesome over here in London. Now we're in the O2 arena. We got Monday Night Raw coming up here in a couple of hours. Obviously London time five hours ahead.

So normally starts at eight o'clock Eastern on Netflix. Today will be three o'clock Eastern then obviously running full time. And it's an honor to be over here, especially with how big of a day we have today. Wrap sheet is gonna be joining here in a matter of moments coach John Shire from the Duke Blue Devils will be joining us in about 35 minutes or so and then you know for the rest of the program We're gonna be talking about all things happening around sports. I know it's not just you over there though AJ it sounds like there's a great group of lads over there

There's a bunch of lad of lads over there is that the the toxic table? Do I hear is Boston Connor back in the thunder dome? Yeah, back in the sand. I knew you were in London. So I, you know, we're the team USA hockey jerseys. Something the Brits can't do play hockey. Another thing they can do probably eat food. I assume you eat some terrible beans and mash or fish and chips or some bullshit that they serve over there. But yeah, it's gonna be back man I'm excited for for Ron London. It was a great weekend of basketball as well. It's awesome. I will tell you this You walk into some of these places because the fish and chips thing You do walk right into a pit of ass. I mean it's smell

Yeah, and some of these and they're all like kind of tight, you know I don't think anything is smelled worse than a pub bathroom like a couple you walk in there It's as if somebody is shitting in your face whenever you walk it because it's real tight. They're real tight spaces You know, it's all real close quarters in there and I was as American as possible I had a backwards hat on obviously at the Air Force's I People were nice to me here. I did not expect it I did not expect is the people to be as kind as they were to me, big dumb American. But I will say, yeah, they can't play hockey.

Yeah, they can't. Okay, they can't play hockey. And it's coming home. We all know what that means. Soccer is coming to the United States of America at some point. We're going to be good. But on that note, sports did happen all weekend. I saw sitting next to you, Conman, I don't know if you saw Ty Schmitz wearing a Yankee sweatshirt what's that all about you guys are using

astrophysicists that cheat the rest of the league you cheat the sport it's like Barry Bonds Mark McGuire Sammy Sosa level stuff why isn't everybody using these torpedo bats hitting dong shot after dong shot after dong shot oh we had eight homers in one game Oh Aaron judges it for him I guess he's not using it cuz he doesn't need it But what are we doing with these bats and why isn't everybody doing this tie? This seems like a genius move genius move That is an excellent question Pat. I don't know why everyone isn't doing it You mentioned at the Yankees basically a couple years ago He doesn't work for the team still but they hired an MIT physicist and basically said like hey listen

We can spend all this money like the Dodgers are doing, or you could basically just invent a new baseball bat that hasn't been done in like 200 plus years. So, you know, you move a little bit of the wood around, move more of it into the barrel. So some of these guys who maybe aren't as good as hitters, uh, as Aaron judges, they can get around on the baseball and they can hit home runs. And you know, it kind of just feels like everything is right in the baseball world Everyone hates the Yankees again. Everyone's saying that they cheat, you know, it's not so much the Dodgers anymore They come out they hit 15 dingers over the first three games beat the shit out of the Brewers every single game And all is right in the world now and now you got a bunch of teams and agents reaching out

Everybody's doing this right time. Like well, didn't you assume every team's going to have these bats? Multiple teams had guys who were using it, but no one, no one obviously was as successful as the Yankees were. But yeah, I would imagine that by today or this week, every team in the majors will have a couple of these torpedo bats on the way. I listened to Jazz Chisholm, the guy that just jacked one right there, talk about it a little bit and he was just like yeah they said it's good that yeah and I love it. I would I guess the the more research I did on it and I read on it I'm not a great reader everybody understands that but I guess like the maximum amount of weight and the maximum amount of girth

that you're allowed to have basically they just reshaped where that is and it's like if this has been laying out there forever, the Yankees figuring it out and this physicist figuring it out. I think that's good on you. You know, it's got a nine year NFL vet, obviously, host of everything. DB, good, D, bad, D, Darius, we're not baseball players at all. D, butch. But whenever you're doing something that's been available for everybody else to do, I got no problems with that.

I think it's next level thinking, don't you? Yeah. Now we know that the NFL is a copycat league I don't follow the MLB as much, but I would assume they're gonna be a copycat league as well, right? Yeah, without a doubt. Okay, that's gonna be doing this. Can I see that back real quick? I know you're explaining it But you said Aaron Judge isn't using it because of how good of a hitter he is. Where exactly are they putting the wood? So they're moving it basically from like the yeah maybe like the handle or other parts of it into like more like around like the barrel or like up a little bit above

the barrel like around the the kind of like signature there because like one of the guys they're talking about Anthony Volpe he gets jammed a bunch so they moved some of like the the sweet spot up there a little bit so he can get around on it and he's catching more barrels. Is it the engraving though? Is it where the wording is and where they have the little engraving? That's changed as well though. Yeah, I think that's- Is that the biggest part?

Is it the mass moving? Is it not having those engravings right in the sweet spot or what? Yeah, I mean look, it's moving the sweet spot of the bat around. They get more wood on the ball. Exactly. They're just moving the wood around. They're moving the wasted wood. Okay, they kind of dodged the bats. They took the wasted wood

and moved it to where a more prevalent part of the bat would be. If I'm reading it accurately, Ty, right? No, yeah. Yeah, that is correct. They basically, yeah, because they're, like you said, there are certain parameters in which the bat has to be and they're within, you know, like the rule book, but they just, there's nothing that says you can't kind of move the wood around to get it to a point in the bat where people are hitting more balls and that's what they did. That's Jazz Chisholm there? Yes. Okay so he's been talking about it right and that's the most defined looking photo of the bat that I've seen I think out of all the photos and nobody ever hits it off the tip of the bat so

that's normally where it gets bigger right normally just kind of like funnels out. Yep. So you never hit it off the tip if you do it's not going anywhere so them deciding to just Push that thing down a little bit like out of sausage is made, you know And then I kind of bottle it in there that feels like genius. Are they gonna ban this how long until they banned this? I don't know if they'll ban it because it is one of those things I mean, it's kind of it's kind of like the tush push almost. Like there were other teams that were using it this weekend and you know I mean when the Yankees do it or like if the Dodgers would have done it like more people are gonna see

about it and obviously they hit nine homers in a game so it kind of you know it puts a lot more attention on it but if other teams are available to use this like the guy doesn't work the guy who invented this doesn't work for the Yankees anymore he works for the Marlins and there were some people that yeah there were some people that use it last year as well so we'll see I think maybe if it if it gets a little bit too much like if the Yankees are scoring you know 20 runs every single game with this going on I could see them maybe you know doing something but this certainly I mean this is a good thing for baseball. You know, they hit 15

home runs in three games. Like it's making the product more entertaining. On that note, we all love Dinger baseball back when everybody was just eating steroids. We all remember it. And that was when it was at its finest. So if this torpedo bat is going to help out with that as the pitching only gets better and better, which seemingly has been the case over the last couple of. I'm all in I love it Whenever you know greats try to be innovative now hembo sent me some stats here The Yankees have hit 15 home runs, which is tied most all-time by any team through three games They tied who Evan Fox Detroit Tigers

which year 2006 Nailed it the Yankees have a point oh eight for slugging percentage in a 1.231 OPS What's that? Very good on base plus slugging Okay, both highest by any team through three games all time. Okay, these torpedo bats most all time of slugging percentage on base Aaron judge thus far obviously first 27 games. He had four home runs. That was last year He finished with 58 20 25 first three games. He had four home runs that was last year he finished with 58. 2025 first three games he has four home runs so you know he had a cold playoffs and he said why would I change anything with how good I did it's like

well maybe we drop that torpedo in there for Aaron Judge in the playoffs and we start seeing how things go. Baseball had a fantastic weekend that was great we'll talk about college hoops obviously here in a matter of moments as we have coach Shire joining us from Duke you know White Mike is what they're calling him when he's growing up in Illinois to go play hoops a little bit Can't wait to ask him about that and many other things the NFL is having quite a weekend Let's go to one half of the hammer Cowboys AP tone

What are the odds on how many rules are getting actually changed out these owners meetings tone because he just mentioned it there the tush bush That one feels like that one's gonna get overturned that one feels like it's gonna get banned I don't I don't love it. I'm not gonna say that I am a proponent of that getting banned But I believe the tushbush that one feels like it's on its way out You know that you already heard it being chatted about in a couple a couple of these reports But football talks talking about it Schefters talking about it a lot of people are talking about it how people in the competition committee I guess it got a little bit a Little bit tense in there

I guess there were some people that weren't necessarily thrilled with the thought of banning this entire thing Especially because one team is better at it than all the other teams But they did mention the precedent of the special teams Pushing from the tight or from the linebackers on the D tackles for field goal blocks It just feels like everybody doesn't want to say publicly that they want it to be gone because they're all football guys and somebody's innovative and I forget who said it. Somebody said it this morning in their meeting about like maybe Bean I don't know. Anytime somebody creates a play or Sean McDermott anytime somebody's innovative with the sport you never want to punish them for it but it does feel as if

there is a lingering kind of it feels like they they're gonna get rid of this particular play. Tony, is that an accurate reading from what you're getting? And how many of these you think actually get passed at this owner's meetings down here? Yeah, I feel like that's an accurate reading from everything that's coming out. Obviously you're starting to get the insight. I'm not saying it should be.

Correct. I'm just saying like, feels like everybody that's in the room where it happens is like, I don't wanna say this publicly because I'm a football guy, but come on we got 900 pounds worth of dudes pushing people like this can't one team's able to do it nobody else is able to do it and then the Eagles are like so that's on us and it's like I'm not saying that it should be banned I'm just saying it feels like there is a

ground support a swell happening behind the scenes, like an underground type of convo about not wanting it in the game. Feels like it, just from reading from the outside in, I'm in London, but that's just reading the tea leaves and the crumpets, if you will. No, I think you are, you are reading the tea leaves and the crumpets very well because, you know, the insiders are now coming out and reporting that there's a groundswell for this to be banned. And once that starts happening happening it feels like that's normally something that does Happen like because if they're getting that info from somewhere and I would assume it's the league and

And once that info starts coming out and they they get those votes that they want you can assume that push push is potentially no More the other rules that I think are probably gonna get past the regular season Overtime matching the playoff overtime that just makes sense like we talked about that There's no reason for those not to match the moving the kickoff touchback to the 35 that also feels like there's a groundswell because Going from as we talked about the 25 to the 30 wasn't a big enough penalty for the touchback in that situation More replay assist that makes sense. I mean, there's no reason not we've talked about it many many times if we can just have The replay assistant, you know voice down and say hey you had it wrong Let's just move it to here move to there

That seems like it the two that are I don't see the defense of holding an illegal contact not resulting in a first down Like that's because we know these DB's. Yep, third and 15. They're just gonna tackle guys There's no reason not to I don't see that one getting past it But the most interesting one I think that is up in there is the wild-card seating whether you know a 14 and 3 Minnesota Vikings Would have to travel to LA if that game was in LA in that situation like is that going to happen where the higher Seated or the better win percentage team will have to go to the division winner as an away game That one is interesting. I got no idea if that one's was gonna pass i don't even have a feeling on that one it's not a debuts i think uh... tom brings up a good point there about defense of holding an illegal contact you guys will gain the shit out of that one so that's gonna feel tough to change but also wild card seeding with how successful the playoffs have been thus far i don't see him touched it what. I don't see him touching the defensive holding illegal contact one because it is an offensive rule

And I can't remember the last time they made a significant change to help the defense I've say like selling tickets. They like scoring touchdowns first downs quarterbacks. We know how that goes our replay assist That sounds great. We had the conversation last year I feel like every few years a conversation where it's a team who like the Vikings last year 13 14 games They have to go on the road But I kind of I guess maybe old school in this mind frame of winning your division means something You know winning that division getting that home playoff game. That's a big deal So I would be hopeful that they leave that one as is

Hey, what do you think age? What are you? I wonder if there's a possibility that none of these pass. Is there, could they come out of here with nothing? They get nothing done? Because the tush push situation that I think you're right. It feels like that thing will get banned. I don't think it should be banned. I feel like it.

Was McDermott against the tush push? Because I know the bills would be the second most successful. I know, we ran it. They were unbelievable at it. Yeah, until Mattermo. Yeah until the play until matter most Feels like there's some Yeah, well you know they're testing out the old speakers over here You know to let me tell you eat is sounding fat. It's just me loose, you know, it uh

It's been quite a time but you're right about the amount of rules that actually get changed and like Normally we talk about the NFL is like a big slow-moving ship where they kind of like set like little seeds in place and then You know, I mean it is the speakers are great here in the 02. There's a There's a residency that happens here. It's got 21 nights at the 02 and they have like awards in the back. I guess Prince's photo is like in the front of it. He has like this silhouette. So I guess there's only a certain amount of artists that have done 21

nights here that claim residency here. This is an awesome arena. Hey, all these, they're much, I don't know if they get used as much or don't get used as much whatever it is Everything is so clean brand new like you know I mean like everything is That's not because I home or what's that? But yeah, does any team is there a sport played there or is it just concerts and also in everything? Yeah, cuz they don't have a lot of indoor sport you're right. Yeah, any Lee ass over there So maybe that's why they're all so nice like they're also like all the seats are like brand new you know like it looks it looks very good but with that being said all these

rules have had seeds in place for a few years you know all these things have kind of started yeah like the tush push granted that one's brand new but I think they were talking about it last year trying to ban it yeah the postseason overtime stuff seeds right since the 13 seconds Touch back to 35 while they moved it to 30 so seeds there. They did that one replay assist They started doing more towards the end of the season without telling anybody seeds They're in that one and then the defensive holding an illegal contact wild-card seeing those are basically the two that we've never Really seen them

Kind of try to navigate so I think that's potentially why we have a doubt in it con man What are your thoughts on it all brother? I mean, I think moving the kickoff would be the one that would actually change the game damn near the most because I mean, how many was the increase in plays that we already had last year was, you know, astronomical. And then if you're thinking about moving that thing to the 35, does that completely change the hey, we're just kicking the ball out of the back of the end zone because I feel like it might just because you know you mentioned it moving the ball from the 25 to the

35 yards okay you know fine but now moving that thing to the 35 you really are two first downs away from a field goal so it feels like that would kind of create a lot more things we saw you know the Cowboys so their season last year obviously didn't go great But some of their best moments came from turpent, you know against the commanders that that Kick return touchdown against the Browns He had the punt return, but it does feel like moving the kickoff touch back to the 35 would actually then lead to You know kind of having to aim for that landing zone because in the Super Bowl the biggest game of the year We didn't see one kick return you know and I do feel like if they if that ball was coming out to the 35 that that would kind of actually change the entire thing

so I think that would be the best rule to change then the other ones you know it's just kind of is what it is. Speaking of you know the Super Bowl and everything like there's gonna be times where teams decide to just blast it out and give the Ball to the 35 like if the other offense is not doing great defense doing well We'll just give it to him on 35 But just giving up forfeiting a first down all of a sudden and the percentage of scoring I think teams will land it in the landing zone a person who might have a little bit more information on all this is A guy who is down at the meeting ladies and gentlemen senior

Insider for NFL Network, which is that gonna be owned by ESPN soon a lot of rumblings ladies and gentlemen Ian Rappaport what's going on guys you look super cool bro appreciate it my Kentucky Derby suit from last year got to repurpose it for these events I think it really fits in kind of with this atmosphere. I gotta say gotten some compliments Got a lot of compliments Really? What happened? Why are you look tall? Interestingly nobody has said that I saw I saw Capoli by the way. Yeah

The world's talkable. Yeah, can you post that photo of Kaboli sitting next to Mike Tomlin? One of the most important press conferences that's happening at the owners meeting is Mike Tomlin speaking about Aaron Rodgers and all anybody can talk about is how damn good Mark Kaboli was. Wow. I don't know when you guys picked up this press conference. Yeah, God, that's sort of... You know, there's an account that takes sports pictures and turns them

into art. You know, it's like art, but make it sports or something like they got to do this picture. They got to do this. To be clear, to be clear, Kaboli was there early. Okay. He represents the program. Well, he got a front row seat, literally think about how many people are trying to get to the spot that he got to. And instead, it's just Kaboli, baby, what his cell phone, I'm gonna record this for myself and he's so focused that it's gonna appear as if he's actually snoozing sleeping drooling wow Mike Tomlin speaking and that's

that's so different do you know he made he made Tomlin laugh so hard today he made Tomlin almost spit out his drinks and yes at the end yeah he was just looking at the candy is it about the candy where he says I heard me and DK McCaff have you seen candy yeah yeah roll it we have the same appetite with candy me and DK here but No, I didn't apparently he's full of five candy bears a day Tom has always locked in for those two. He's always given incredible clips. Let's start there He talked about Aaron Rogers Rodgers about how there's a process of the offseason. You know, we're trying to construct the team. You do it through a free agency. If you can't get through a free agency, go through the draft. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers allegedly, he was broken on NFL Network this morning on Good Morning Football, I believe by one of your Paisano friends, that Aaron

Rodgers had a throwing session this past weekend with DK Metcalf at UCLA. Now, was DK at UCLA at the same time Aaron was at UCLA and they just so happen to throw to each other or was this Something that was organized and set up. What are you kind of reading through this all Ian? Especially down there boots on the ground with a used suit that everybody seemingly likes Only used once lightly used I think is the proper term. It's not yeah. Okay. Anyway, yeah Yeah, it's still it still looks amazing This was not a coincidence. This was not like, you know, Matthew Stafford running into Brady at Yellowstone.

This was a planned throwing session. Sounds like it went very well. From my understanding, it was lengthy. It was, you know, Rogers has this process, I think it's probably not as fast as many people would like. This is what he needs. It might be his last stop, probably is his last stop, needs to make sure it's right.

If that includes throwing with the newly acquired star receiver for the team, okay. It sounded like, first of all, it wasn't exactly a secret. There were several other players, some rookies were trading kind of around, like it wasn't much of a secret, but it was a UCLA. It did go well.

It was, you know, part of the process for Rogers to say, all right, maybe this is my eventual destination. And it seems to me, um, unless the Vikings do a complete about face from what they've said publicly, that would be his only spot. Um, so it feels like a matter of time, but as you probably know, getting in the head of Aaron Rodgers and trying to figure out what he's up to is difficult. So I will sort of wait till it gets firm and final, but that's just my general feel on it.

Ian, is there a chance, like, is there a deadline? Like, is there a certain date where something has to happen one way or the other here? So the Steelers, and I think this is a little bit why there's a lot of reasons Mike Tom was like the best. He really does respect the players, whether his future players or his current players, he respects their process. He respects their sort of their desires. And it's obvious Rodgers wants time. So they haven't said to him, like, all right, we need an answer by March 31st or whatever. And he would be like, do you though?

Like, you know, there's no actual deadline anyway. The draft is really the next time where things get real because if you're the Steelers and you have Mason Rudolph, who I think they would be okay entering the season with, obviously you'd like Aaron Rodgers, but I think they'd be okay with Mason. If it's not Rodgers, they might draft someone. And obviously you would need to know by the draft.

So that's kind of the only real deadline. And like we've seen this before when he was going to the Jets. It was the Tuesday of draft week, right? If I remember correctly, when the deal got done, like I don't know when Rogers is going to decide or when he's going to make his announcement or whatever it ends up being. But if you told me it was draft week, like I wouldn't be that shocked because that's the only time it actually sort of an answer needs to be given. Everybody's saying it's potentially going down on April 9 at big night.

That's what everybody really I don't know that though. I don't everybody's saying that have you talked to the person who's running it? Yeah, I have I have every day I talk to that person I'm sick in the though. I don't know. Everybody's saying that. Have you talked to the person who's running it? Yeah, I have. I have. Every day I talk to that person. I'm sick of it. In the mirror. I'm going to be honest.

I've been talking to him for 37 years. I'm about to tell that guy. But yeah, that person has not heard anything about that. And that person also very intrigued about how it all works out, especially because, I mean, the city of Pittsburgh, they got a team. They got a team they got a team Always have a team if you get a hall of fame quarterback over there I know some yens are gonna be kind of cold to start but they were probably cold to start on Russell Wilson

You know depending upon what the deal is for Aaron if he was to go there and allegedly the contract Has already been decided by the Pittsburgh Steelers and Aaron Rodgers for most yeah So whenever that number is announced whatever it is, we assume we might be wrong unless you know That is gonna be a low number not that big of wrong unless you know that is gonna be a low number Not that big of a number. It's not gonna be a gigantic number and I think Yenzer's will be like, alright, let's go on a run here. Let's see what the hell we can have and then maybe they Still draft a quarterback in that whole thing. Okay, let's go down to Florida where you are at. Do you know the number? Do you know the number? Yeah, you act like you know, I don't know but I was told

manageable like I think you're I believe what you are saying that it'll be something where no one's gonna be like 58, you know, like it's not gonna be like that. Manageable. Yeah, or 40. I don't think it's gonna be any, I think it's gonna be, once again, I've not talked to any of the parties

involved in weeks. AJ, AJ might know actually, AJ. Rock. Numbers wise, I was gonna ask Ian, what's the range? Like what could he sign for? What did Florio say? Florio said 60 years. What did Shultz say?

Well he said, get me a latte, or I'll slap you in the mouth. They know what he said. My god. Yeah, what's the range? As far as what the actual number is, just to be honest, I do not know. And I don't know. Um, yeah, what's the range? The, as far as what the actual number is, I just, to be honest, I do not know. Um, and I don't think they're there yet where they could say like, all right, it's deals agreed to just waiting on Rod.

And I think there's still some things that need to be finalized, but I would agree with you guys, like I'd be a little like you, Pat, you were saying, it seemed like you were saying might be under 40. Like I think that's probably right. Uh, because there is a history of. Veteran quarterbacks signing either with their own teams or with new teams kind of last year of their career or maybe second or whatever it ends up being,

understanding like I've made a lot of money, the number doesn't have to be the most because you wanna build the team around them. So that's kind of what I expect. Aaron Rodgers has actually made the most. Just, I don't wanna be pocket watching here but uh NFL money is all very publicly broadcasted. Aaron has been the most successful whenever it comes to cash and uh obviously that is a good thing especially if you're somebody that gives back philanthropists of the year in California. Thank you Aaron.

Thank you for your service. Nice job. Let's go. Okay so let's get to let's you were never philanthropist of the year in any of the states that you live in your absolute Remember that one. I got about Aaron. Not yet. Not yet Yeah, you're right booze bag. Maybe some of the cities Okay, I was with a couple professional booze bags yesterday's you would have loved it. Have you ever done a London booze bag tour? No, I need to I need to get over I mean This is my wheelhouse. I saw on your social media. You were hanging out in London now, how many pints? What's like a good number? I don't know. I I drink what we drink No, I was having like the local one that they had at each place so each place had like their own thing

Is that man the people? Yep. Well, I just I'm never gonna get to try it again So when I was there, I was like I might as well give it a go and they have these bitter beers There's like a bitter beer and I really thought a bitter beer face. Yeah, exactly. It was not like that at all We're talking water. Those things were See, yeah, it was really and I did I did put on a show a couple times with the guzzling abilities Yeah, you know always with the guzzling. Okay, let's move to The owner's meeting shall we because you have information that we do not have and we need information Show a couple times with the guzzling abilities, you know always with the guzzling. Okay, let's move to the owners meeting Shall we cuz you have information that we do not have there need information and to be clear

we have a guest in ten minutes that we need to talk to that is Not LeBron but I mean a huge Twice as tall as you. Thank you That's a really high bar LeBron stuff was great. I thought that was awesome Thank you. That was very tiny fascinating I believe is what you texted me in the middle of it. You weren't the only one Okay, so my hem best at say that the Eagles since 2022 are 108 of 124 whenever it comes to tush pushes, which is

87% of the time now it used to be above 90. I think was 92% That's why the new White podcast is 92%ers because that was when Jason Kelsey was in there. Obviously he's a masterpiece of it all. I am reading the tea and crumpet leaves from afar here in London. It feels as if there is a little bit of a groundswell from NFL people to ban this play.

Is that accurate? But nobody wants to come out publicly and say, cause they all want to be known as football guys. Well, some of the Packers people have come out publicly, Brian Budakens just did media. I talked to him afterward. He has come out publicly and said, essentially, this is first of all, let me say this. I don't know that it's getting bad. But I do feel kind of like you're saying the groundswell may be rewriting it. So like, is it going to go away? I don't know. But rewriting it would make some

sense. And I think what they're nervous about is like the NFL, NFL officials have said very publicly, there's not enough injury data to see if it's something that like long term could be a play that's sort of like an injury filled play. But what they're nervous about is some catastrophic injury to like an offensive line and the center is probably most at risk and then you and then you react and say then ban it so i think they're trying to get ahead of it and say how can we make it just a little bit safer eliminated i don't know but i do feel the groundswell vocal let's try to make this a little bit safer before anything goes i mean like one pusher like what does that mean maybe or uh i'm not 100 sure? Like one pusher? Like what does that mean? Maybe or I'm not 100% sure I'm one pusher might make sense or maybe one push. Like maybe that would be a way to do it like

we just stop. That'll be easy. Sometimes all you need to in football. We know that is all you need. It's all I need. True. In football. We know that is all you got too. But when you think about football. In football. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but we're never talking about officiating this.

We're putting more judgment calls now into the refs' hands. I don't know if that's good play. I'll be in on it. I know. This is the challenge, man. Them starting to mention the precedent of the field goal block team not being able to push years ago and then now it feels like there's a chance this thing gets banned who knows let's move some other conversations D bud has a question for you rap. Yeah down in Florida

With the Dolphins Tyreek Hill kind of stirring the pot a little bit as he usually does on the internet Think somebody may have tweeted. Hey, who is that process that player most likely betrayed on draft night somebody said Tyreek Hill I think he quoted it Are you hearing anything with real decision makers as far as Tyreek Hill possibly moving this offseason or at any point from the Dolphins? First of all, I haven't. And I think he, you know, he does speak a lot on social media. He does sort of have his say and, and I think this is good because you sort of want people to be able to speak their mind on social media, right? I think that's okay. I have not heard her talking

points there. Wait, wait, or read your talk. I think this is no, I mean, I just in general, like what, what I don't want to do is sort of like, players should have the ability to speak their minds. Like even if it annoys teams, they should have this ability. I have not heard that he was going to be traded. He also is recovering from wrist surgery. So trading some, same thing with the Brandon Iuke sort of trade rumors or whatever you'd even call it. You know, rarely do teams trade for people who are not fully healthy. So I think that would be complicated. I think trading for his contract will be complicated. Could the Dolphins get enough where it would be worth it? I don't know, I don't think so.

So I don't see a ton here except that probably we'll get him some reach. Fossocona's got something for you Ian. Yeah, Rapsheet, another situation going on actually here in Indianapolis. Dan Jones and AR are officially splitting QB1 reps. Is this going to be a true, you know, quarterback competition, someone's got to win. Is there no one with, you know, kind of a leg up? I think most people would assume Anthony Richardson would have that. What are you kind of hearing with that situation? Yeah, I talked to Steichen

about this change, Steichen about this today, basically said splitting reps 50 50, they've been told, they've been informed how it's gonna go and it's gonna be a storyline every day and I Hope that that is really the case because the only thing that really matters for the Colts is the best quarter of actuallys like You've already drafted Anthony Richardson. You're ready game a big signing bonus as an early first round pick He's already had two years Daniel Jones got the money He got it gets 14 million, whatever it ends up being. Money's been paid. The draft picks have been made.

The only thing that matters is who is the best quarterback for the Colts. And so I hope it's fair. I hope it's real. And like you guys have been in locker rooms, not all of you, but a lot of you guys have been in locker rooms. Um, the players generally know the players generally sort of the side. And I think at the end of camp, it will be obvious. And I think that's will be the coach quarterback.

The highlights were showing there of him with the Patriots. If he plays like that, he's unstoppable. Yeah, that was the final drive. I mean, the Patriots and it was Anthony Richardson playing his best football that he's ever played for us. And obviously there's moments of magic there where Anthony Richardson is the only one that can do some of the stuff that he does. Hopefully he's able to figure it out this year. Hopefully he's able to stay healthy and if he can't beat Daniel Jones out, Daniel Jones fresh

into a brand new offensive system, brand new building. I think that is obviously a situation that he'll have to learn from going forward. There is a world where Anthony Richardson doesn't win this quarterback competition. I'm not saying that that's gonna happen but there is a world where Anthony Richardson doesn't win this quarterback competition. I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but there is. Let's say it doesn't work out with the Colts. He's going to go to another team and be so great. Yeah. You know, cause it would be like a, I've thought about that this weekend while I was traveling. I'm like, Anthony Richardson is going to win a quarterback competition against Daniel Jones. You would assume. And then you would assume this off season without loud,

everything's been ourselves included that he would like be Like okay, I got a lock in very young buddy. Like okay to be a professional quarterback There's a lot that goes to it Like hopefully now it is kind of something it all buys into and then I thought to myself Well, what if Daniel Jones wins like clearly and they decide to move on from Anthony Richardson It's like well, there's the moment then that'll tell him that he needs to lock in and be a pro and it's like then he'll go Somewhere else and become a hall of Famer. So whatever the a lock in and be a pro and it's like then he'll go somewhere else and become a whole thing so where the case is good luck and i hope it's with us i do i i hope it's with the

indianapolis culture you can use their rap sheet again some news what's going on i'd just texture my wife i'll answer this so we said a lot of guys when your horse best this weekend uh... jude uh... was the only one who won. Of course. Hey Jude. That's a big English thing, isn't it? Ty has a question for you.

I think so. Yeah, rap sheet. I know you mentioned it about like the Vikings and JJ McCarthy, but they haven't officially said he's the guy even though everyone is very excited about him. Are they going to keep doing this will they won't they with Rogers because they haven't officially shut the door on that or at some point soon here are we going to get confirmation that like no we're going with JJ McCarthy and we think he's going to be our guy because obviously KOC has spoken glowingly about him as well.

Yeah and KOC was just on with my buddy Pelicero on Nelford Network. I think he posted either the video or the comments. I think it was pretty strong that JJ is the guy. But even if they don't come out and say it, like, we know. And I think, like, yes, I think they'd like him to earn it. But I think it will probably happen. It sounded like last year, early part of training get before the injury, he was really impressive anyway. So like, I know some people have sort of said like, maybe Aaron Rodgers there, like, anything's possible. I would never rule anything out in the world. But it feels like JJ, for sure to me, JJ to JJ. And hearing the comments of Vikings people today and this week seems to

emphasize that even more. Okay last question here from AP Tone. Yeah Rapsheet let's stick with the quarterbacks it was reported that the Ravens are in early talks with an extension for Lamar Jackson does that have anything to do with Josh Allen's contract getting torn up and him getting a new deal or is it I saw he's a big cap hit coming up this next season or is it yeah Lamar Mars earned this obviously and deserves extension I think it has more to do with the cap hit than with Josh Allen But like Josh Allen getting it now he got a great deal for him because basically what they did was they ripped up his own Deal not they didn't just extend it tack on some money. They kind of started new which you never see teams do

But I think that sort of sets a do. But I think that sort of sets a little bit of the benchmark of where Lamar might be. So Josh Allen comes in at 55, maybe Lamar is a little bit over that because generally the next guy is a little bit higher. But I think yeah, it has to do with if they're going to do something to lower his cap it which I know they would like to do. You know, he's your guy, you have no doubt he deserves everything. A pay raise makes sense, a new contract makes sense, and I could see it getting better. Absolutely. Last question from me before we let you go enjoy that Florida weather while you're wearing a Kentucky Derby suit again. The vote that can happen tomorrow, how many of these will

pass? We got a graphic here, basically everything we know of being proposed. How many of these end up passing? Tush push? Yes. I'm going to vote for myself here tush push well yes over time yes touchback 30 let me just roll through here tush push yes right regular season ot yes touch back to the 35 yes defensive holding an illegal contact we all discussed we don't think that's going to get passed replay assist we think it will wild card seating we don't think it will well get passed replay assist. We think it will wild card seating. We don't think it will Well, these I'll be voting on tomorrow. And what are your thoughts on the outcome? Tush pushes tomorrow unless they say you know what let's reconsider it may at Minnesota meetings, which might happen regular season OT That seems like a pretty good

We'll see I don't know if all some of these might be today But I think the bulk of them is probably tomorrow. And I think what you're looking at, I mean, replay assist, like I feel pretty strongly that's like we've already seen a lot of that in play. Yeah. Have we not like so I think that's probably an easy one. Wild card seating, I'd be surprised about just because that seems like such a drastic

change. I think we'll get a couple of these but to me like the tush push ban is probably generating the most conversation. Usually when there's a lot of conversation, they want to have more conversation. So maybe we do end up talking about this in May. Okay. Sticking a pin in it will circle back. Not a bad idea. I guess

the NFL has done that before. We appreciate the hell out of you brother. All right. Thank you guys. Enjoy those pints. I guess the NFL has done that before we appreciate the hell out of you, brother All right. Thank you guys Pat. Enjoy those pints. I will be Obviously not doing any pine tree came down here, of course, but I'll be there in spirit I did all the pints yesterday that I could handle. I think I'm good on pints for a while I mean it was a lot of pine. Those things get heavy, you know, and then the squirt obviously I've heard Yeah, you've heard obviously never experience ladies and then the squirts obviously. I've heard. I've heard. Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, you've heard, obviously. Never experienced.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Interim Rappaport. Hey, guys. Hey. It was a lot of pints, dude. Really? Like Ireland? Ireland type? Or at Bittersby?

Not as many as Ireland, not as many. Ireland was just such a sprint. You know, that was a, that one went real fast. This one was like, started at one o'clock in the afternoon and then went till about 10 o'clock at night. And then it was just like, kind of just bouncing around place to place along the Thames River which I guess has a lot of history. I guess there's a lot of history and it was high tide yesterday so some water came up up on the up on the sidewalk thing it was uh I had to represent though you know like

I had to represent that's how I always feel in these situations like especially with the way the world is now without America's being viewed you know I always feel like I had to represent that's how I always feel in these situations Like especially with the way the world is now without America's being viewed, you know, I always feel like I gotta represent So I'll take your local one. Okay, and I'll take whatever you all are doing I'll do it as well and I will go to the next one, you know in good spirits in good spirits Is it Michael? I would like I would imagine Michael Cole was a great American, you know Partner when it comes to something like that represent if you're boozing Michael Cole was boozing. Yeah, but Michael Cole is older, you know, so there was a time where thinner grumpy Cole grumpy Cole came out he was you know, we were sitting in his one beer garden and I looked at Michael Cole and

We had both basically had enough. Yeah, we both we both basically been we've been through it, you know, and I looked over coal and he did like this because he had some pouches in or whatever and he did this bit into the rocks and he still had a little bit on his lip. And he did the whole who cares. We've probably done enough here. We've probably done enough here. We've probably done enough here. Then we tried to drive back to where we were staying.

And you know, they got roundabouts everywhere and they go the wrong direction. So you can get clipped pretty quick, you know, if you don't watch and the people driving by you, you forget that the passengers actually on the left side drivers on the right. So it's like kind of weird. Like you see like a 12 year old sitting in the passenger seat and it's like, is that person driving? And then, you know, it comes up seat and it's like is that person driving and then you know comes up and Then it's on the other side. So but where we were driving to was like 10 15 minute drive

But they shut down two of these roundabouts and I'll tell you what you shut down two roundabouts You're not getting about anywhere and We had to walk that thing. So we did like a two mile hike last night at the end of this whole thing So it was a good time. Everything's been great. I really enjoyed the weather was nice. The people were nice. The pints were good. Some better than others, certainly.

But yeah, it's been a lot of fun. And tonight's show should be why gets today's show for you guys back stateside should be absolutely absurd. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who's a national champion as a Hooper for Duke. Guess what he's doing now, AJ? I think he's on the path to another one, Pat. Isn't he? As a coach at his alma mater.

There's only been three times in the history of college hoops where somebody's won a national championship and then guided their team back to at least a final four as the head coach. Ladies and gentlemen, out of Duke, white Mike, Coach John Shire. Hey Coach! How are you? Coach, ladies and gentlemen, out of Duke, white Mike, Coach John Shire. Yeah, coach! How are you?

I'm doing great. Well, I feel like I've arrived at McAfee show with all you guys. I feel like I've arrived. So thank you. You're in the final four, okay? You have arrived. Okay, so let's just make sure that is understood.

Not on here has anything to do with that, but congrats, coach. Obviously we just read off your accolades. And before we get to the team, and I'm sure the boys will have some, you know, call it troops question and this team question. For me, I just wanna go back to the white Mike story. This is how I was introduced to you.

Okay, I just wanna let you know that. I was introduced to your greatness via story being told about how, yeah, John will come down into Chicago and there'll be people that'll be walking to go watch this dude, white Mike. And then obviously you had some time in the league You get injured everything goes and you become a coach but growing up you were the guy is National champion at Duke whenever you think about that perspective

How much has that helped you in either recruiting or in coaching or how do you how much you lean on? Being that dude that you were for so long now in your coaching world coach Well, you know what pet I think the biggest thing for me is, I had to get outside my environment growing up. And so anywhere there was a game in Chicago, I don't care where it was, I would go and I think the biggest product I found was having to find your own footing, for me it was just showing my game. And so I'll go everywhere and play. Uh, there's nice of pat bev to

To give me that love and uh to share those stories. I don't know if they called me white mike Uh, but I think they did have respect for the way I played and so for me The fact that I coach guys from all over the world, uh play with different guys from everywhere I think that's just helped me understand different perspectives and connect with different people. Well, I think they did call you white Mike and I think that type of hype is something that you have to have a lot of confidence to have being kind of said about you and speaking of confidence following in coach K's foot,

like that is putting on those boots at that school. What I mean, it's Shashevskyville outside. I think his office is there. It's like everything is Coach K, he's USA coach. So whoever was gonna come in there afterwards had to be a very confident individual. Feels like you've been able to do it, but also in your own way.

Do you feel that way? Do you think your team is vastly different than maybe a Coach K team? Yeah, well, I think I just had to accept right away the comparisons are gonna be there, but really come to terms with, I didn I just had to accept right away the comparisons are going to be there, but really come to terms with, I didn't have to come to terms. I knew right away, I'm not, I'm not coach K, nobody else is.

And so I found just great confidence in who I am as a person. Understand you're not going to bet a thousand, you know, I wish, I wish you were, but there's decisions you can make along the way that aren't perfect. And to be able to keep that confidence, to be able to be authentic to who you are to me is the most important thing and so I think for our players they understand I'm not trying to be anybody different I am who I am and I think there's a lot of great things to it I'll tell you this though I think we're playing modern way uh you know modern basketball the way we share it the way we share it, the way we play with pace and how versatile our team is, I think is really the way the game should be played.

And just the modern way of playing right now. Coach, can you describe what it's like from the start of the tournament until now? Obviously, Final Four, we all know what's on the line, but you have these young guys that are unbelievable superstars, but ultimately untested when it comes to the brightest lights, the big stage. As a player and a coach, how does every single round, does it amp up the intensity and how do you find a way to keep your team kind of focus and dial and not make too big of a deal of the whole situation?

I think for me, AJ, the biggest thing for our guys, fact is we play five freshmen in our rotation. And all five of them in high school, they could have probably played at 50, 60% and still been by far the best player. And so from day one for me, it's been about setting an expectation of understanding what the standard is. But then also preparing to be at your best when your best is required. And that's what the tournament is all about.

It's not best out five, it's not best out seven. You get one game and so the fact that we were able to bring in really competitive dudes who play the right way and let you coach them. I think we've been able to create an environment on our team where they're not afraid of the moment, they're not afraid of the spotlight. And they set a standard for themselves with how hard they play all the time. And that's what I hope you guys see when you watch us, you know, how together we are, but most importantly, how hard we play. And I think for a young group to have that is a big time thing. Here's a hembo stat for you coach that you

probably already know or somebody on your staff has told you. Duke's freshmen have played 434 minutes in the NCAA tournament the other three final four teams have combined 160 minutes by their 163 minutes by their freshman, but we're at the end of the year Obviously, so you feel as if your team's a bit battle-tested you guys haven't lost since February 8th Okay, I don't want to jinx anything But hey, you got to win a bunch of games in the tournament to win a national championship anyway So that just is gonna be have to be how it is talk about that guy right there Okay, obviously we knew the main event coming out of high school because we have a guy from Boston Who's been hyping them up for a while?

We have Duke fans obviously scattered throughout the entire show AJ growing up was a Duke fan D-Bone one of our graphics guys a massive Duke fan So I think there's a lot of people that have paid attention to Duke throughout the years Getting Cooper flag was obviously a massive talking point as he lived up to everything you thought you were getting in Cooper flag And every piece that I see about him the more I like this dude could be in high school right now still allegedly Is that accurate? That's accurate. I mean look we have two guys that really are a year below the class that they're in Cooper and then come on my watch, you know, come on should be in high school as well

You know our starting center and and so, you know, look both those guys, but but you asked about cooper You would love him even more if you saw him every day pat, you know The way he goes about his business Uh, he knows no other way Than to compete like crazy you know, he's had moments where he hasn't played as well practice and got knocked back and The the best part is he takes full responsibility Like there's no fighting it

Like he'll come to me after some practice and say man, I suck today I'm gonna be better for you tomorrow coach and and and first of all, he didn't suck that day That's the first inning but the fact that he thinks that and and comes back with such a killer instinct all the time He's one of one in that regard and so competitive and then the other thing is he has a unique ability in game To understand what's required to win and some games is blocking shots other games is you know Leading us in assists other games is getting 30 or 40 points It's just a feel that I don't think you can teach He's fun to watch you know throw loops to all over the place. You know, it's like

His handles absurd his shots insane. He's able to go underneath, he'll bang. And the fact that you got two high schoolers leading your team to the final four, congratulations. Congratulations, that's unbelievable. White Mike and coach, what a whistle around White Mike's neck, you think he got to figure it out. D-Bud has a question for you, John. Yeah, John, big UConn guy here, UConn alumni.

We went through the last couple tournaments, last tournament, pretty dominant, so we didn't have pretty, you know, a lot of close calls. You guys haven't had many close calls, calls either one kind of close game with Arizona. Does that worry you at all going into this Houston matchup? And what are the biggest, I guess, challenges facing this Houston team? Well, I think, you know, first of all, when you talk about close games, I think it shows a great killer instinct when, you know, during the game,

there's going to be different inflection points where it can either be You know you think about Arizona it was uh, you know seven eight-point game Alabama the same thing with about an eight minute eight-point game with you know eight-seven eight minutes to go to be able to know in those moments to Keep your foot on the gas and get separation. I think that's a skill those moments to keep your foot on the gas and get separation. I think that's a skill. And our team has had that this year. Hopefully we can do that, but we're fully expecting against Houston.

It's gonna be a possession by possession kind of game. My first year coaching, we get one scrimmage to go against anybody. I wanted scrimmage Houston. And the reason I wanted scrimmage Houston in year year one I wanted our guys to understand the level of physicality You know a team like them would play against and that togetherness and the job that Calvin Sampson does he's as good as any coach in the country period. So the respect we have for them is off the charts We know it's gonna be a slower paced game. We know it's gonna be a physical game Still diving in them some but know it's gonna be a physical game. Still diving in them some, but look it's there

if you look at their analytics statistically they're as good as any team in the last 10 years of college basketball. They're right there with anybody. So we're excited. We know it's gonna be a big time challenge and the job they do on defense is off the charts. You talk about coach Samson there obviously he's been around we've seen Houston go on many runs the last school called him Kevin I think and Then their social teams said his name's Kelvin and the L is actually the same one He just handed you so they got a little swag down there a little bit of sauce in this entire thing ESPN research pulled this up John just to make you feel young or good Samson and Shire will be on opposing benches in a semi-final when Samson began his first season as a d1 head coach in

1987 At Washington State Shire was four months old will be on opposing benches in the semifinal when Samson began his first season as a D1 head coach in 1987 At Washington State Shire was four months old, you know, so he's got a little He's got a little experience on you, but you know Exactly Boston Connor has a question for you coach. Yeah coach you got that, you know Duke emblem across your chest It says the brotherhood above it, you know What does that kind of mean when playing basketball for Duke, all the great players that have played there, including yourself? And will you kind of lean in to the brotherhood as you get ready for

the final four? Will you reach out to Coach K? Will you kind of talk to some of the guys that have already been through it? Or can you just pull from your own experiences enough? No, no, I lean into all that. And you know, look, I think when you think about the brotherhood, and obviously, Coach K is a huge part of that. I already talked to Coach K first and foremost.

I mean, he's had, he's only had 13 attempts at, you know, in a final four or 13 experiences. Besides that, he doesn't know much about being in this environment at all. But for me, I'm lucky, you know as a coach to sell to still have my coach You know, so the fact is we talk all the time and I lean on him for a lot But you think about you know, the Grand Hills of the world and shame baddies and you know, you know Adam silver the commissioner and then BA is a Ducrat I mean the brotherhood the brotherhood in general to me is the connectivity in the sports world but especially in basketball is off the charts. I think the thing

that sets us apart though it doesn't matter if you're here for one year or two three or four the amount of text that I got from four players when we went to the Final Four the text throughout the year of just being so invested in what's happening to me is off the charts. I'm not gonna say it's better than anywhere. I can't compare it to anywhere else. This is all I know. But the passion to me is incredible that I feel from our former guys. Seems like two young Duke guys are taking over the basketball coaching ranks.

You and JJ Reddick, obviously massive talking points. It's awesome to hear you still talk to Coach K because from the way LeBron talks JJ is a young coach K in there as well so happy to see the Shershevsky pipeline will continue to crush. Last question before we have a hard out we can't thank you enough for joining us here coach. All focused right now on Houston will you also pay attention to the other teams now are we watching filmers just everything on one game at a time now as opposed to what it was beginning of the tournament? I'll let our staff take care of that for me it's 100% Houston.

Just like it's been every step of the way AJ to your question. It's been what's next finishing what's right in front of us and then going from there. All right, well coach good luck. We can't thank you enough for joining us man. Thank you fellows. Appreciate you guys You're the best ladies and gentlemen coach John Schein You know, I appreciate them coming in saying oh now I've made it you know, I'm on this show

I do I do appreciate that because you guys in the final four. He's a young lad He had to take over for coach K and a Duke, you know Team that in AJ you watch growing up. Obviously D bone was in Illinois. You were in, Ohio Final Four. He's a young lad. He had to take over for Coach K at a Duke, you know, team that in AJ you watched growing up. Obviously D-Bone was in Illinois. You were in Ohio. There's people in Pennsylvania. The Duke brand was the Duke brand because they're basketball team. And he let, he started rattling off some of the X's. You can start continue those names on and on and on. It's like it is a brand. There is an expectation. So he gets dropped in there and just rolls, you know, like UNC very different situations. You know, what's and on. It's like it is a brand. There is an expectation. So he gets dropped in there and just rolls. You know, like UNC very different situations. You know what's going on. You talk about some of the, go ahead. No, people take that for granted. It's like taking over for Nick Saban,

taking over for Bill Belichick in the NFL. People take it for granted that you can just keep that thing rolling. And you're right. North Carolina is proof. It's a lot harder than it looks. Yeah. You have to do it your own way. Like, inevitably you're gonna have to do it your own way because you're the one that's gonna have to do it every single day. And if you don't, you can get left behind. You can get exposed. You can go from being a tier one blue chipper

to mid-level just hoping to have a good year. I mean, that happens. And I think obviously they have great NIL, I would assume. Duke basketball has great NIL. Oh yeah. I would assume they have, you know, a leg up on a lot of schools because they are Duke. You know, it is the brotherhood of Duke that he is pitching, which I think is a good idea. Anytime you get a transition phase,

some people like to forget about the past as opposed to embracing the traditions. So him being like the brotherhood, the brotherhood, this is all of us here at Duke and him being a Duke guy to begin with, I think it's been done beautifully, Tashmit,imately. I think they've done it absolutely perfectly over there. Yeah, without a doubt. And, you know, understanding the added pressure of like, hey, I gotta make the most out of this, because there's a good chance that a lot of these guys are gonna be gone next year. I was- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Okay, Martin, let's try one. Remember, big.

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there. How's everything in the O2 arena right now? It's fantastic. At some point I'm going to have to get up and leave because I'm currently sitting in the audience and I believe they're going to be opening the doors relatively soon. So if I do that, just know because I'm currently sitting in the audience and I believe they're gonna be opening the doors relatively soon So if I do that, just know that I'll facetime in from backstage But with that being said all roads have led to the 02 there's been a three-week European tour of the WWE Here on this glorious road to the WrestleMania and tonight for the second show in a row London will cap off everything and it's going to be electrifying

tonight. I believe and I believe there's somebody that you can't see, you know, an invisible person that's going to be here. I believe there's some other magic in store and I'll be on a microphone alongside Michael Cole. It'll be a dream come true. As you see, Darius J. Butler there behind Lord Stanley Cup as cup is he is a florida panther fan A. J hawke traveled in from ohio To stand at that particular desk right there can't thank both you boys enough and then on the other side you get the toxic table At boston connor and at ty schmidt one half of the hammer Cowboys ap tone is there and we have some uh breaking news Ladies and gentlemen

Wednesday april 9th will be a big night In Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and it is It's gonna be awesome. The show is coming together perfectly the conversations that I've been able to have with people who want to not only Make the show better but really want to commit to that evening becoming one of the greatest nights in the history of entertainment. It is sold out in 92 minutes we all remember that story and it was really cool to experience that as a whole and with the reaction that there was I thought to myself there has to be more tickets there has to be more tickets that we can find and

obviously we had held a portion of tickets because of where we're gonna set cameras up and for the view of the stage and for the view of everything you know can't have people sitting directly behind cameras. Well today we just got done with a meeting myself and the folks here at the WWE that are going to be piecing this entire thing together and it turns out we opened up some tickets and I believe with the moving of one thing to the next and moving this over here Do we need this particular view for one thing? I don't think so. We could probably open up that section, right? Don't you think? Yeah, we probably could 1750 tickets will be going on sale on Wednesday at noon Wow, okay

Wednesday at noon we were able to open up 1750 tickets now there was a worry that maybe these wouldn't be able to be in the giveaway zones. There was a worry that maybe they'd be have an obstructed view. There was a worry that maybe these seats would just have to be covered by some tarps because of the way the presentation of the show was going to go but instead the Wizards here at the WWE were able to cook up some magic, some potion and we were able to open up 1750 tickets.

It'll go on sale at the same price that the other tickets were on sale for the first time, so nobody's getting a better deal because they bought it late. If you bought it early, obviously you will be paying the same. You won't have to pay more than the people that got it later. So Wednesday at noon, one week before big night, 1,750 tickets will go up for sale and it's exciting. I'm very, very pumped up about it. As soon as I found out about it, literally an hour before we went live,

I was like, bro, gotta tell people, gotta make this announcement. I wanna sell them as soon as possible because obviously the show is next Wednesday already, AJ, the next Wednesday. And gonna give away a bunch of money, gonna have some spectacular talent in the building and hopefully we have a Wednesday night that's talked about forever AJ Hawk and I know you'll be a part of the show but just know that there's a chance

1,750 more people could be coming to your party AJ Hawk Yeah, I think that's amazing I'm sure people will jump on that as soon as they go on sale Wednesday at noon Eastern as I was watching actually D bone Make this graphic when I showed up earlier It was it was cool to see how the sausage is made as they say really cool. Yeah D bone always does You know D boat stuff stuff, you know D bone trying to figure out what what matters on the graphic and what doesn't matter on the graphic is always a fun game It's always a fun game. You know, it's like hey, yeah, when are they on sale D bone big part of it

What is the show big part of the story here? How many of the tickets big part of the story here and D bone gets creative You know, he's an artist. He does what he's got to do But in the end he makes magic and that's what we're hoping is Wednesday April 9th Nothing, but magic few hours show two hours two and a half hours Maybe three depending upon how it all rolls show will start at eight o'clock local and I think we over by 10 There'll be our 1030 maybe 11. There's a chance you go to work the next day you Yenzers you find Yenzers Or if you want to take Thursday off, I believe it's the first first day of the Masters golf tournament down there in Augusta

So, you know everything's pointing up D but you're obviously gonna be a part of that particular program Maybe a thousand seven hundred fifty more people are gonna come join the evening. I cannot wait I know a few of my friends will definitely already been be in the building Hopefully this opens up some space for more of them, but it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy. It's crazy That's already here pretty much just around the corner and you saying that everything is going perfectly has me feeling great Worrisome. No, no, no, goodbye. Yeah, I've been talking about this program for a few years, this show,

that I wanna kinda piece together. And a variety show of sorts. There hasn't been one in a long, long time, a variety show. Dean Martin had one way back in the day. I guess there's been a few others. I think award shows were supposed to become the variety shows, but for one reason or another, that didn't really happen.

So I'm hoping for a variety show that people will hopefully want more of. I think will be a good display of people just coming together to put on a show, just put on a show, give away some money. We're going to be streaming a live on YouTube, X and TikTok live. So if you're not one of the 1750 people that are able to get some of the tickets here on Wednesday, they've just been opened up literally an hour ago We figured out more space to get more people in there You'll be able to watch along at home. It's gonna be a blast

Let's go to the talk to the table at boss Connor and at Ty Schmidt Con man big story in the sports world this weekend was what I mean I would say the Final Four the four one seeds kind of coming together or rather the you know The so selection of the Final four being kind of finite now We got all ones is Duke Houston then Auburn and Florida, and I don't know if we have it I doubt we do there was the kind of Odds of when the team was gonna win and who was gonna win basically all four of the games were blowouts Comments are to catch off people upset about the all the ones making it? I think so because

everyone loves the Cinderella but also I think it's more so like especially in the elite eight. Okay well at least it's one verse two one verse three like we're gonna get good games. None of the games are that good you know Houston killed Tennessee yesterday Michigan State kind of made it close but not really yesterday as well Florida in Texas Tech That was the closest one and Florida had an unbelievable finish And that was great But the games themselves haven't been that good for the 1c teams that that kind of stunk

But you know the the final what three games should be incredible even though Duke is clearly the heavy Favorite, I don't know if we did talk about it, but O's the Mentalist has done it again folks on March 20th and I believe guys we have the video but on March 20th he put together basically his final four and also a massive upset from the entire thing and he revealed it yesterday. I said before we started March 20th when steals at 115, our bracket buster would be Arkansas beating St. John's. A two gets taken bomb down by a ten. I said Florida will beat Texas Tech. Number one, Duke will beat Alabama. Today, watch. Houston will beat Tennessee. Auburn will beat MSU. Four number one seeds make it for the first time since 2008. In 17 years, mark my word. Second time in tournament history. This was sealed at the start time since 2008. In 17 years, mark my word. Wow. Second time in tournament history.

This was sealed at the start of the tournament. That's crazy. Every team in the Elite 8. You got a notary on that? Same envelope. And the future is here. Remember this moment. We're going to the Final Four, y'all.

You guys have questions? Well, that's the thing. If you're going to do something like this, and maybe they did do it, they need to show when he closed it or whatever. At least a picture from March 20th. It was notarized. I believe it was notarized.

Was it notarized? This is before the last two games were played though, right? Was it really notarized? Yeah. Oh, okay. I wasn't accusing Oz of cheating. That's not like it works. But if I see, the first thing I thought of when I see him do this Like why doesn't he monetize this in a gambling way?

Like wouldn't someone come to him and one say hey, give me the let's figure this out. You know, he didn't I know that's what? I'm wondering like are there some yeah, I don't know I would assume he can make tons of money if there's some people that he's not allowed But at the time he could say oh, it's not ethical or whatever But what do you mean like that's on none of none of the not illegal sports books are gonna let him gamble Yeah, but I'm saying he tells come to him Because if you were to like in the world thinking of gambling if you were to do like a parlay of just the yes Elite eight matchups. Oh, yeah

You can put like a hundred bucks down to probably won like a hundred grand Yeah, like when he was making that thing much to March 20th What if one of a you know a big-time whale that can change lines gets in on that? And no place not that much money because it is one sees verse two seats Oh, but still I mean it hasn't happened in 17 years the odds would still be pretty yeah And plus people like we were talking about earlier in the in the games being people being upset or whatever like Ken palm Who is like the analytics just? guru of all gurus for college basketball,

literally in his ranking had the number one seeds, like as the four of the top 10 teams, I believe in the last 20 years or whatever, or all time, maybe as four of the best teams of all time. So it's not surprising that they made it here. It's also not surprising that the games haven't been that close because like I said, based off of the analytics, these are four of the best teams that have ever played basketball in college of all time. But this is what people are saying.

And now we're going together, it's a good thing. I don't think people should be bitching about this. It is a good thing, but isn't the argument, or at least like the old man's stand on my lawn argument, that we're not gonna see any Cinderella stories anymore? Like, only these big schools are gonna get in every year? But a lot of times when that happens, like the Cinderella story after the elite or whatever,

like those teams get their asses kicked in the final four because you're playing against like the two favorites to win the national championship. So hopefully we will get some more competitive games like Connor said, like all these games this past weekend, with the exception of Texas Tech in Florida kind of stunk. So hopefully these final four games are a little bit closer. But, I mean, the Cinderallas are fun early, but I don't really care about seeing a 13 seed

playing Duke and getting beat by 40 in Final Four. Yeah. Yeah, I think the old man argument now is like, hey, they're paying for their championships. Like the NIL thing is now what the old man. You still gotta make the plays though. Exactly. That's the thing. You still gotta make the shots though. Exactly. You still gotta make the shots.

I saw some people were mad about Auburn starting five because they're all. Old as hell. And I saw people upset about that and then I saw another thing, it was earlier, I think it was before the weekend started on Thursday where it kind of showed, you know, where all of the team's players started in college and then where they are now like the FAU team that was kind of one of the last Cinderella's to go all the way to the final four. They're like a nine seed. Three of their five starters were on different teams that were then in the sweet 16, you know, so it's one of those things. Like I believe Florida, their guards is from if I fa you from their Cinderella run So I think like I own you. Yeah, I own it like the old man yelling at the you know, no Cinderella's it's turned into hired Okay, that's just hired mercenaries. They go get one-year deals and go play Yeah, they're playing for money and they got no loyalty because they're leaving their show

Hey, yeah, it will give you one point eight come over here and you're going to a great team with a great opportunity. How can you blame a player? It's better for your life. Like if you think that the kid who is now playing in the Final Four again for Florida, the point guard, would have been just the same as how he would have been if he stayed at FAU. Like he's trying to make his life better, not, not just, you know, be a guy that was on the Cinderella team.

It's like, Hey, now I'm playing on one of the top eight teams in the history of college basketball. Like that matters for the kids future, let alone, you know, his immediate happiness winning and playing good basketball. Yeah. And they try to bitch about like student athlete, like he's still going to graduate from Florida with a degree. So it's like, you know, I mean, if you mean if you can get a bag and then also get a degree with it

like there there really is no you know there's no reason to get pissed off about it yeah well I mean and Walter Clayton who Florida's point guard or whatever who came over from Iona like the exposure that he's getting because of this and the two threes that he hit at the end of this game and then the three that he hit at the end in of the sweet 16 game like his drafts he's making money every every single one of these shots because down the stretch he has just been ice cold and hasn't missed like him making all these shots he's not making these at I own like he is making that I own it but it's not seen as much and his draft stock is just sky-raw. Comparing him to Steph. Yeah. So Jay Wilk, yeah, comparing him to Steph. Obviously, Steph will be the peak and the all-time great at what he does.

But those type of shots, like, kind of looks like Steph. And remember, Steph got introduced to kind of the world. March Madness, Davidson, mid-major. So it kind of sucks that you won't have those stories. But it is just the nature of the business, even on the women's side, you know, Van Lyft, she's on her third team, and the third team, she's been to at least the elite eight,

so you'll see this more and more on both sides of the college landscape when it comes to basketball, you know, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it. I think we'll still get them here and there too, but we won't ever get like another butler, where it's like you have a mid-major that like goes to two final fours in a row like there are still teams that can go deep But then after they have a deep run in the tournament all those guys are gonna get blocked by high majors and go elsewhere

So like I think there's still a chance that we're gonna get a couple of these Cinderella's like we saw it happen This year with with Drake, you know, like they they were an 11 seed They won in the first round but then immediately their coach leaves and all their players leave. That's what's gonna happen. Yeah, I believe Pat may be joining us from the bowels of the O2 arena. Here he is, what's up Pat? Hi, how's it going?

It is great to be back with you here. I literally came through a secret door to get back here where I'm at. It's a great room, it's very peaceful, but back to your point, I don't know if you guys had these stats, Em both sent these over. Should the starting lineups remain the same? Is this a stat you guys have already talked about? No. Okay.

Should the starting lineups remain the same? Eight of 10 starters in Florida Auburn will have started their careers at different schools. The only ones that didn't are Alex Condon at Florida and Dylan Cardwell at Auburn. Auburn starts five seniors. Their seniors have played 677 minutes in the NCAA tournament, most by any team ever entering the Final Four. So we still have some seniors, but you're right.

If you're good at all or showcase any talent at any school, there's a chance you're gonna get blocked the hell out of there. I mean, that is just the real world nowadays. And hopefully, you know, schools like West Virginia are the ones doing the plucking, but it feels like we're potentially a part of the problem. It was like, we're gonna be the ones getting blocked, you know, after DeVries leaves, after not even making the NIT. And you talked about McCallum and all his guys leaving. It's like it's a fascinating

It's a very fascinating State for college basketball because I don't know why Cinderella's wouldn't exist I just don't think Cinderella's would exist for multiple years You know like if a Cinderella shows up that shoe that she was wearing until midnight That shit's getting stolen by another school immediately. Yeah. I mean, that's just like, oh yeah, you had a good little audition there in March. Now guess what you're doing? You're coming to our school. That's kind of how I see it going. But maybe not. Maybe all the good talent is going to end up at a high end high school

anyways. Yeah. Cause with those Cinderella, at least from what I can remember watching the game, it's like those guys typically they're going to run with like their best players or like maybe juniors or sophomores, like the big, like the Dukes of the world, these big time, these guys come in, the Derrick Queens, they come in, hit the ground running, like these Cinderella teams, these smaller schools, mid-majors,

it usually takes their guys a little bit long to develop. And then as soon, like you said, as soon as they pop onto the national scene, they're going for, football, even football, you know, you have a, I have a good year at UConn, you know, took my sophomore year, I'm probably going to UM. So the Cinderella, those kind of stories,

that's kind of why I see it going away and fading away. And March Madness, when we all become college football, I'm a basketball fan, it kind of sucks that those stories probably will be going away. But yeah, there's money plucking away. You can't blame the kids for going and chasing greener passions. But that Jeff Goodman tweet that popped up there, we were talking, that was insane.

Like that number of players to enter the portal in the lab. What do you say today? 1700 or whatever it was. That's what I'm sorry. Thirteen hundred and fifty nine D1 men's basketball players entered a portal since it opened Monday. There's only what? Max 15 players players usually 12 on a team. Yeah Yeah, and that happened in football remember that happened in football a little bit at the beginning people are like hey

You're asking to go into the portal. You're asking to stay in the you know, that is not everybody has opportunity But you talk about popping off on the national scene a little bit and then hitting this portal and then hopefully getting somewhere That's why teams aren't doing spring games anymore. Yeah. You know, teams are scared to do spring games. They're scared to do spring games because if anybody does great in a spring game, they have to be a second string or third stringer. They're gone by the time fall comes around. I mean, it's over. It's like, I obviously have a chance to chat with more coaches now that we've been in the college football world here for the last few years.

And it's like, Rich Rodriguez is trying to figure out what the hell to do. Matt rules trying to figure out what to do. All these schools are like, why in the fuck would we have a spring game where we're declaring a first string, second string, third string, fourth string. So now our third stringer knows he's not a starter right now, but he might be a starter in the fall, but right now he isn't. So he might be like, well, I'm not gonna play here. I'll go somewhere else. And then if you do well in the spring game,

it's like every other place is like, who's that guy? Who's that? It's a, it is, I think spring games, dead and gone. Everyone's doing like a spring celebration or something. They're trying to figure out what exactly they're doing, but they're not, they're not going to be playing football against each other. It sounds like. Coach Prime tried to. Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. No, D-Buts.

What you were saying there is a hundred percent accurate. Coach Prime wants joint practices, but if those are going to be on TV, and I guess Coach Prime has a lot of confidence in his guys not leaving and congrats to him getting that new extension. $54 million. I mean that is, cause I remember just a few years ago, Colorado didn't even know if they were going to be able to pay his original contract. They said, we don't have enough money to pay his current $30 million contract. We assume he'll be able to make that happen, which he did. He absolutely did and created a brand and a name. But it's like anything you're doing on TV with any of these guys, there's a chance that you're just showcasing them to somebody else

who might have more money and it's like how much of that game do you want to dance with? How much of that? And that's why you're seeing all these teams, they're doing showcases for the fans because they want the fans to be around and you know we'll do some gimmick shit, but like playing football, declaring a first stringer, second stringer, and a third string. It's like, no way, no way. And now the transfer portal window and basketball has to change. That's stupid. That's right in the middle of the tournament. I don't know how that even becomes a decision, AJ.

I don't even know how that's made that way, you know, cause we experienced in the fall with a college football playoff, that there was a transfer window and guys were getting in it. But then we were like, we'll just just move it so after they're like spring semester they have to enroll yada yada yada it's like well how come football's spring windows in April something late in mid-April late April and your guys's has to be in March aren't they both enrolling for the same school that feels stupid by itself AJ yeah they are they trying to say we have to make it now to

to protect or give guys that aren't in the NCAA tournament aren't making deep runs in the tournament a Chance to get in the portal and get to another team. Like what's the reason I? No idea. I've no idea. There's dumb decisions made speaking of decisions being being made What was rap being so Auspicious about whenever he was talking about those votes? What was he like? Did you hear him? What do you mean exactly? I don't know if I said the word right there. Is that a word? Auspicious?

Yeah. Yeah. I think what it means is like, he was like some of these votes, maybe tomorrow, maybe today. What is the day? Minnesota. I think he just didn't know. Really? the day? I think it's Minnesota. I think he just didn't know. Really?

You think he didn't know? Okay, I didn't know if all these were actually getting voted on or if they're just being discussed. Wasn't it last year where it was kind of up in the air when they were voting on some stuff? Sometimes if it was like, hey, we're close on a certain thing and we might have a certain amount of votes, they're like, why don't we just completely vote for this tomorrow to try and kind of swing like the Frank Underwood type thing so they choose when they make the vote yeah that's what I thought if I remembered it correctly that when we were down there

there was kind of some sort of like toss-up of when the actual votes were Goodell has I can't remember what it was they voted on last year might have been a kickoff rule or whatever but they had the meeting and they could tell like maybe they were two or three votes short. And then, you know, Goodell had to go that night to have some cocktail with a few more votes. So that he knows, he knows.

That lobbying. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, brother. There's real lobbying. Like remember this new dynamic kickoff that we currently have is strictly because, I don't know if it was Roger Goodell, but somebody in the NFL was like, hey, you're gonna have no more kickoff anymore So figure the hell out like literally that was like the conversation around it all and then they get to this new dynamic kickoff And some teams like we're not doing this two lines of scrimmage saying yada yada yada. We're not doing that

They're like well, it's either that or it's nothing at all. And then they're like talking at night, shaking hands, earning up votes. You know, Riz coach Riz had to go earn votes for this kickoff whenever he was the now he's with the Broncos. He was that at the time with the saints. It's like, there's a lot of working going on down at these league meetings. And it's a lot of it's like, Hey, I'm better for the game. I'm saving the game. This is better for the game. But that tush-tush thing, it feels like it's over. It does. And maybe they'll delay till May to do that, but it feels like, I don't know,

more people coming out against this. I think they don't really have any data to back it up or whatever, but saying the potential injury risk from this play. But defenders, correct me if I'm a linebacker, I can push my D Lyman, right, on this play. But defenders, correct me if I'm a linebacker, I can push my D lineman, right, on this play? Yeah, is it just a special teams play you're not allowed to? I don't know. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. If I'm a defender, I should be able to push my D lineman. If you can

push your quarterback, obviously in this play, I understand the extra point and field goal is different, but you're right, this feels like it is is gonna get taken away. I don't think it should. I don't know. I mean, just figure it out. Find a way to stop it. Figure a way out to run it on offense. Change just to one guy being able to push. Like I know, because that's what some of the teams are like,

I know that's what the Packers did with Jordan Love. That's what Josh Allen and the Bills do. They could easily keep it around. Or if they just say, you have to have some sort of, I don't know like a Declaration that you can't run them or you can't throw the ball because that's another thing with the touch push is like hey They might they might make face push. They might see you like if it's something like that I don't know but I would rather see it stay in the game and just completely ban it

It's innovation. Yeah I was talking to there's a lot of Eagles fans that work for the WWE So this morning when I get to the arena here And I'm sitting down all of them just right on over And it's all trying screw Philadelphia Eagles and I said what's that you guys are Super Bowl champs What do you mean? You know bandit touch push because we're barring everybody is that way we're bandit I thought football is supposed to be tough. I thought you guys are supposed to be tough What do you mean? You got to ban and touch push because we're barring everybody? Is that why we're banning and touching? I thought football was supposed to be tough.

I thought you guys were supposed to be tough. That's how these Eagles fans literally- They got a point. Yeah, they have a point. They have a point. Yeah. This is just in the wrestling world. I assume in the rest of the world as well, Eagles fans are feeling the same way.

So we're tougher than you and you guys want to stop that? Okay. Okay. And then, you know, your thought about the thought of potential injury, that's a hilarious argument. Yeah, but when you watch it, you can see... Their heads are down. We could have a neck injury. Yeah.

Why don't you watch any play that ever happens ever in the NFL and there's potential injury risk everywhere you look. Doesn't matter. I think another big topic of conversation here is they're paying Jalen Hurts 50 million a year, 51 I think. Jalen Hurts could easily be a quarterback that says, I'm not doing this. No way. There's a lot of very rich quarterbacks that would never do this, never allow this to happen.

Because I mean, they're potentially setting themselves up to literally get anti-ant. Like that is the chance like quarterbacks think it's always gonna be tough on the quarterback. But let alone whenever there's 600 pounds of pressure being pushed off your ass cheeks while everybody else is doing the opposite. Like Jalen Hurts saying I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it. Now granted their offensive line also saying they're cool with it is a whole thing. But like I think that's something that not every quarterback is willing to be cool with either, you know Yeah, not you know, not every quarterback is squatting 900 pounds and when Jalen Hurts retire, you'll probably have 90 Rushing touchdowns to go on his resume and obviously it helps the team win to obviously Jalen How do you stop it D, but for how do I stop?

We've seen enough to you can't is one of those things you just can't stop with the Eagles. And that's their argument, like, okay, we're, everybody has the same rules. Like, Jalen Hurts isn't the only big strong quarterback in the league, this isn't the only big physical offensive line in the league. Everyone has the same rules, the Buffalo Bills, they were great at it with Josh Allen for most of the season.

I think the Chiefs were probably the only team that consistently stopped them. How did the Bills do it? How did the Bills do it? Because there was people calling, like, just regular quarterback sneaks touch pushes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they do. And I think there was people confused about which push was being pushed.

Like, I think people thought, like, offensive lineman's push is getting pushed by the quarterback is a push push. It's like, no, the push that's being pushed, that's currently being talked about is the quarterbacks push getting pushed by a couple of different hands of guys that have big pushes. So then it's a big old push on one push that's going into other pushes. I think that is something that also is kind of hard to like a regular quarterback sneak is not a push push. No, you know

Yeah, Josh. They did it. Yeah, they did it with one guy And they usually try to find like one of the guards they typically go over the guards like hurts and go over guard But a lot of time he was going right over that center I feel like Josh Allen goes over a guard more and like you can see right here It's usually one guy pushing him But that's a big strong son bitch at quarterback I think it definitely starts there to your point some quarterbacks my homes hasn't done a quarterback sneaking with like two three years now So a certain quarterback who just isn't gonna do aren't gonna do it at all Tom Brady

He was the best quarterback sneaker of his generation of multiple generations that he played So he was innovative and found a way to just, once he saw the gap and got up, he can do it for two, three yards at times. So it's gonna be interesting to see how this really unfolds. But I think the Eagles fans and the Eagles team, more importantly, has an argument where it shouldn't be bad. Well, Brady too, like the thing,

the reason Brady was so good at it was that they were under center every single play. Like the Eagles and the Bills, they they were under center every single play like the Eagles and you know the bills They're not under center every single place. So there isn't that like element of surprise like on a on a fourth and one I don't think it was guaranteed that Brady was gonna do a QB sneak But if it was there he would you leave the a gap open? Yeah, like I'm in there with the Eagles It's a guarantee on fourth and one that they're doing this, you know And I think that's why Brady was so good at it.

And when it comes to just like stopping it in general, the only guy that's consistently been able to do it is Vita Vea. And so you would wonder if like that 464 pound guy from Florida, like legitimately becomes a higher pick because of the fact that so many teams are doing touch pushes now that a guy like that will be able to stop it. That'd be crazy. Especially if this ends up surviving this rule change thing here, more people are going to want to be able to figure out how to do it.

Like if this survives this owners meeting and it survives May and it's in this in for next year, it teams will do just like you said with the chiefs, they had a tight end to come in and take it right? Yeah. Take the snap. Instead come in and take it right? Yeah take the snap Instead I think it was what? No great The Packers had Packers had Tucker Kraft do it. Yep. Mm-hmm Yeah, it's like instead of your quarterback getting in the middle of the 600 pound

Kind of scrum maybe have somebody else do it. It's like, I wonder how many people are in the, I wonder how many people are in the room talking about that. Okay, so we want D. Packles to end up taking snaps, and then they're getting two people on their, like. I mean, that's probably the next iteration of this thing, if I had to guess. Has to be, yeah.

And I mean, think about taking a snap in Vita Veja. What if he's, you're pushing that dude? Yeah, he's down. I don't know how you stop it defensively You hit when guys leave their feet like the second level when you jump over top like that's useless at the time over it's just when they if they if you don't have three guys in the center in Angle and get a complete jump on the snap and like chop these guys down before they even get underneath you like the offensive line, you have no chance. Like it's just not gonna happen. And that's what the commanders tried to do.

And then basically the refs had to come out because what was it, four or five? You see guys going sideways, the chiefs there had a guy lined up. But that is what it is. But Chris Jones got hurt. Yeah, that's what Chris Jones got hurt, yeah, Bingo. I mean, good luck.

Yeah, I'm happy I don't play defense. Yeah, just in general. But Celiano needs to come out and run that way 50 straight times in a game. And especially if he gets this thing passed, I don't know how his offensive line will be able to stand up afterwards. But if they run this first down, second down, third down, all the way down the field and score a touchdown, I think then that message will be sent that we're better than you are. Congrats to the

Bills and Christian Benford on a four-year, $76 million deal. Did we know these types of deals were still coming at this stage of the off season? No, no, did not. Legitimately, Bean is out there just cooking over there. We talked to Ted Karras the other day and he was like, the salary cap, some teams don't have it. I don't know how that goes, but it's like the Buffalo Bills had to move on from their previous team of all the OGs and all the people because they couldn't pay everybody because they just paid Josh Allen.

They repaid Josh and then they couldn't pay everybody because they just paid Josh Allen. They repaid Josh and then they're still paying everybody over there. Brandon Bean's obviously in it to win it and congratulations to Christian Benford. I don't think I know much about him. D-Butch, four years, 76 million. How you doing? Keep it moving.

Benford is an absolute dog. I think he'd be a little more mainstream if he had a different number. I think 47. Is that a more mainstream if he had a different number It throws people off out there corner for sure I'm sure it's some type of sentimental meaning probably behind that number But he's a he's a phenomenal player fantastic player got banged up last year had a concussion and then came back I think too early I don't think you should have been out there and then got banged up again

So he didn't end his year great, but he's been a great pickup for them. This is a great great deal I think for Buffalo as well start as far as value that's coming in at under 20 million dollars when you saw What the cornerback market did this all season for them to lock him up? And I think maybe this could have something to do with the contract talks at least reportedly falling through with James Cook You know James Cook obviously wants his money. We saw him commenting on the Saquon deal. And then I think Brandon being talked about, hey, we had some extension talks was kind of stopped. So it'll be interesting to see maybe he's the odd man left out. But it's a great value, I think for both sides or Benford and the Buffalo Bills locking up their young star quarterback for the next four years.

And the Buffalo Bills locking up their young star cornerback for the next four years How about it Brandon being going all in seemingly that's got to be scary for the AFC Easton man Yeah, I don't know about that. They definitely are Latching their wagons, but I don't know if it's scary the salary cap thing that you know It doesn't make any sense and we talked about a little before the show with you know Lamar Jackson is when you pay a quarterback more money You know today you save more money tomorrow like that is why I assume the cap hits You know they're able to do it because they gave Josh Allen thirty three hundred and thirty million dollars but also I feel like there has been a lot of

You know games being reported when it comes to these numbers like we we talked about you know How when Mahomes got his deal it was you know ten years five hundred million And then we kind of find out it was really period period Reporting matter of fact and then in that journalism journalism It was really you know ten years or eight years You know four hundred million with all these crazy numbers. And even now with the guarantees we see like, well, the guarantees include injury guarantees,

which aren't real guarantees. They are, you know, very specific things that add to the numbers. So absolutely, it's great, you know, it being reported as 76 million, but who knows what that is? Because even with the Stefan Diggs thing, the Stefan Diggs was a contract was reported as, three years, 69 million with, 27, yeah, 26 million guaranteed. And then we come to find out yesterday,

it's really like a one year, $16 million guaranteed deal. So as much money is being thrown out, and it is great that, everyone is making so much money, the salary cap thing will just never make sense no matter what for the rest of time but it does feel like the Joshy quarterbacks getting paid you know immediately just helps the teams you know all around like even with the Lamar extension talks like I assume Ronnie stay at Stanley their left tackle

going back to Baltimore kind of did have or will have something to do with the fact that Lamar is going to sign you know a massive extension that inevitably is going to help the Ravens you know pay a bunch of guys over the next few years. Yeah they'll be able to kick can down the road that's the fun digs update is fascinating because the teams are it okay with the massive number being, you know, marketed. Yeah. Yeah, we're paying guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're paying you guys. And at the end of the day, we're paying $10 million less than that actually in real life. It's like, League looks good. Players only one that seemingly doesn't benefit from that. So I think insiders are okay getting that information and then reporting it. And also, where's the transparency come from who knows let's talk about being transparent did you see what owes did on March 20th oh yeah you were doing the walk we ran the thing and started talking about a little bit Wow she's insane

demon yeah how good no like how what what is What is happening? He continues to predict the future over and over again. I don't know. I don't think... He popped up out of nowhere too? Did he pop up out of nowhere too? Shefty pulled him out of nowhere. Remember? Shefty is like his manager who took him around. Yeah, from the depths of hell Well potentially that's what I'm saying here so like This guy just pops up out of nowhere in our world, and then he just starts predicting everything. I think I'm frozen I don't know if I'm still here. You're good Am I still here? Yeah, you're good

Anyways, this dude pops up pops up out of nowhere And there's just starts doing this while I don't know none of it makes sense to me me. O's is a demon. I genuinely believe O's is an actual demon. Happy you guys talked about that. Okay. Let's say in the, in the basketball world, but go to the professional one. How about the Detroit piston is just trying to make the ballast in the palace every single night. What's going on Foxy? That's just beef stew football. Pat, whenever the Detroit pistons are good, they have a guy that all he does is he grabs rebounds and he fights people. If you go back to the bad boys, Bill Lambier, if you go back to the old four Pistons, Ben Wallace, and now we have beef stew and he

will fight anyone. If you guys remember his marquee fight, he chased down LeBron James and even tried to fight him. I think he's the only person in NBA history to do that. That's just beef stew football Did we have the video? It was a real fight I was impressed It was a real legit situation I don't want to be called a cat but that's how I compare beef stew to Bill Wallace I agree I agree

I know what you're saying but Bill Wallace is the offensive player of the year Okay DiVincen out getting a little soft Oh, yeah, even choose those adult camera man get crushed push now What do you do? Right there and you're getting stomped you just cover. What are you gonna do you punch yourself? I think you're doing this one here. Yeah, I think you're doing this one. Yes The foot hand like you're doing jujitsu and you're on your back.

Yeah. You're full guard. Yeah, you are in full guard. Just like what you do whenever a plane is about to crash. You put your legs out like this. Knees up against the seat. Yeah, and then you stop it all. You stop it all by doing that.

Real surprise, it's the Pistons. Yeah. Ridiculous. Real surprise. It's the Pistons Yeah real surprise Guess who we're coming for in the playoffs right now right now. It's Pistons Pacers, baby And I know the Pacers don't got a dog like beef stew You say we Too much flash. Did you say we, D-Bud? I just admit, it slipped.

They slipped. They slipped. I'm in the end here right now. D-Bud has been outed as a casual as well. Did you drop the heat? I would never drop the heat, all right? Never. Even when I was still winning the show.

Well, they called me a casual because I asked Foxy last night on X, like, what else does beef stew do besides beef? And people sent me a few highlights and told me he's the top ten room protector Hey look, I love physical guys who set the tone, but literally every time I see 28 since chasing down LeBron I miss seeing him do the same thing. We all love dog Maybe maybe give a damn Campbell see if he can help the lion. Oh off the edge He's a dog. I like beefs too.

Me too. And if his only job is to fight people, I'm cool with it too. I'm cool with that. I like that type of mentality in it all. What else is going around the NBA? The biggest thing was that the Memphis Grizzlies were the number four overall team in the West and they fired their coach a couple weeks before the playoff started. It made no sense. There were some reports and I don't know if they were like Sean's reports or just internet reports but that you know the offensive system Jod didn't like but

that doesn't really make any sense because he's not like a new head coach there. He's been there for a little while so that kind of blew the West wide open as far as the middle of the pack goes so who knows what happens with the Grizzlies. One of their players actually got asked about it and he said he thought that it was an NBA sentel report not a real report but no he got fired and then in the East and the West it's still kind of Cavs and OKC running the show. Hey, I'm Brad Milky. You may know me as the host of ABC audio's daily news podcast Start Here, but I'd like to add aspiring true crime expert to

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a new series from ABC Audio. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. And tie in baseball, the only thing that happened is that you Yankees are cheaters. Is that what everybody talks about? What are some other storylines other than the Yankees are cheating with their wood? So yeah, I mean, cheating, you could say that you could just outsmart in the competition would also be one way to say it. The Dodgers are 5-0. They continue to kind of just beat the piss out of everybody.

And the Padres, the dads are also undefeated. They swept the Braves. Braves are supposed to be very good this year. Reds are good again. Yeah, sure. Sure. Had a good opening day parade. Had a good opening day parade.

Teddy Karis talked about how great it was. And then unfortunately for you guys, the Pirates. opening day parade yeah a good opening day parade Teddy Teddy Karis talked about how great it was and then unfortunately for you guys the the pirates No, they I mean, I don't want to call it bad luck bad bullpen Which we know they have they were walked off what two out of three three out of three Which is like the first time that's happened since yeah 1924 and surprise that was the night. I had 24 pirates that happened as well. So I see one a world series though. So they did. And it's funny. They're asking

guys in the locker room like, Hey, how do you respond to this? Obviously it's a, you know, it's a fucking 162 game season. So no one's going crazy after losing three games. But one of their pitchers basically said like, you know, how do you respond to something like this happened? Three heartbreaking losses to start the season he was he basically was just like fuck it it's a long season just move past it we'll figure it out eventually yeah hopefully you know maybe that's a sign they should sell it to you could be you know maybe it's the baseball god saying hey excuse me you need a little bit something different going

on here. Like walked off every game thus far. And obviously Paul Skeens is the future of baseball. Happy that the Buccos are back in record breaking conversations, even if it's not great. Let's go to hockey now. Ovi Soren, huh? We're five goals away, Nick and Skates. This guy's going gonna get it. Five goals away. This one not his prettiest down in Big Buffalo, but he gets a tip in front. Not really what he's known for. He's known for setting up in his office up top on a power play and sniping goals, but he can do it down front, get a little dirty, greasy goal, but he's getting it done any way he can. And it sure feels like he's gonna get this done before the end of the season.

Was that OV Banzamaker dance video, Real? Anyone else? Yeah, that's real. Yeah. Loved it. That's awesome. Once again, that's George Foster. Worthy of a follow, George Foster on X.

He is former teammate of mine, longtime NFL offensive lineman, phenomenal Twitter user, phenomenal X user phenomenal ex user and to be clear when I saw this video I did not know enough about OB's game I had no idea that we were bands are making her dance every game seemingly they had them in different eras different uniforms different buildings I think he's just trying to make them dance out there and I'll tell you what five goals to go this records been intact since 1999 I look this up Obviously almost 30 years. Nobody thought it was going to get done

And the fact that ovi was hurt this year and still has the chance to catch this five goals nine games Very easy stuff for ovechkin even though it sounds incredibly difficult, especially with the way This year's been going for the caps. That's still leading the East Nick Yeah, they are record wise the best team. Sorry second best team currently in the league But definitely leading the East with 103 points Good here to be a caps fan congrats to them and then chat Hanks I did I'm just seeing this new song Yeah, I don't know if you can call it a new song you call a new anthem perhaps because in about a week's time the president

Might change the entire country because of this on him and actually Tom makes an appearance It's shit kind of dressing up as a few of Tom's roles and let me just tell you look It's I'm not joking. It's catchy tune A good song. Yeah, this is not this is not a joke This is a real song. This isn't like the bring the boom. We bring the boom to you Bring the boom to you is only like, you know, a minute and a half, two minutes. And this is Chad Hanks, legitimately starting a music career that has kind of like a LeAngelo ball situation.

He's a real tweaker. Have you seen him? He's in that, that running point. The show, he's legit. Like the judge is a very big role. I don't know if any of you've seen that, that running point with Kate Hudson. It's good. I ched Hanks is a big part of that show. Yeah, he's legit. Yeah yeah, people will say, you know, Chad Hanks is an Apple baby and

Obviously when you grow up in the industry, you're gonna be good at who cares. Yeah, who cares? There's nothing check you do about it. Who's rude? Why all he could do is do his Yeah, you've been putting out a song that is a banger by what you guys are saying, absolutely hysterical. And then obviously big news around the sports world. Four number ones are the final four in this year's March Madness college basketball tournament and the SEC will have a national champion contender Florida takes on Auburn Duke taking on Houston Duke really the only team on the ACC which is historically a great basketball team our Basketball conference who cares if they end up winning the Natty and the ACC wins a national championship

That'll be the only thing that is talked about this Florida teams had a couple close dances Favored by two and a half against a very good Auburn squad and then Kelvin Sampson leading that Houston team which is a grind and pine style basketball team against Duke should be an electrifying final four on Saturday. Let's go to bubble gumpino in the back. Gumpy good money on Duke. Is that where you're residing or who are you betting on Gump? I'm going to take whoever wins Florida and Auburn. I like both of

them. Houston will be able to match the physicality of Duke but I don't think they'll be able to beat Duke. Like Duke bullied. Duke's been bullying everybody. Houston had some man meat down low, they can match that. I just don't know if they can beat Duke. I think whoever comes out of Auburn and Florida has a good chance of being beaten duke in the final what did you learn from watching that tennessee first-half with houston uh... looks like they're very tired every three-pointer hit the front of the rim that was uh... atrocious fifteen point well especially after we were there friday night that was the best they looked all year against kentucky on

friday night and then you can say the same about alabama the best they looked all year against Kentucky on Friday night and then you can say the same about Alabama the best they looked all year was against BYU they go and play Duke and they can't hit a damn thing Duke is so good defensively and they will bully teams Lucas Hall Stadium was a good setup yeah it looked like it was it was a good had a good view of everything had good games obviously I mean a couple of them. It was, it was a good, had a good view of everything, had good games, obviously. I mean, a couple of them were blowouts, but it was, it was a good, I thought it was a good host. I legitimately thought it, now all eyes are on San Antonio.

Where are they at down there? They're in that, uh. How low? That's huge. How about that? Yeah, it's gigantic. Like, I think as shooters, and we know college guys, they they can shoot lights out But they can't shoot like NBA dudes like if you get one of those big venues D But I can speak more than any of us D bus legit

basketball player like isn't it weird sometimes shooting those huge venues when you go from an Arena basically to the stadium like Alamodome. I played a bowl game there. It's I actually went there for one of the Yukon National championship runs for the women's side. The court's gotta look so small when you use play. It changed. The depth perception changed. But once they get out there and they practice, they have their shooter rounds, you know, these are some of the best shooters, obviously, in the world and the country. So they definitely figured it out. I lost a lot of interest in March Madness after my Huskies got bumped. But this was great for the-

Come on, dude. I was watching golf this weekend. All right, then we got his first man In that leaderboard on Sunday. Yep roars Scotty. Yeah, what was that woodland? He made a run on so it was some great great golf this weekend leading into the Masters But I'll definitely be locked in in this final for run. I'm with a gump So I think the winner ultimately comes out of the SEC Yes, you see winning it would obviously be great for Sankey and for their entire narrative that they are now a basketball conference.

Had seven of the Sweet 16 teams now. Obviously they will have a representative in the national championship as Florida and Auburn play against each other. Ari Mirov and others are saying that NFL executive Peter O'Re good guy that change chat with From the NFL Said that the league is exploring a possibility of a regular season game in the United Arab Emirates Oh more work is needed before it becomes a reality Let me tell you why they're doing that Why explain it becomes a reality. Let me tell you why they're doing that. Explain it. Maybe.

Maybe. I mean, maybe that might be the actual thing. It's like, can we do business over there? And if we can, how often? And is that a real thing? And it's like, yes. Okay. I would like to be on the side of I think it's good to help countries and everything evolve. I think it's a good thing.

Like getting a chance to watch from afar. I've never been over there. What the WWE has done alongside Saudi Arabia and the Crown Prince, God bless him, and everything they have going on over there for their citizens, for their entertainment, for day to day, for what life is like from what it was just 10, 15 years ago to what it is now. Like I think that's good for their society, good for the world. Now granted, there's a lot of detractors to all of that.

You're doing business with people that have blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's like if we start digging in all those things, especially in all these different countries, like I think you're going to be able to find everywhere there's been mistakes, obviously bigger than in some places than others. I get it. But watching their society evolve with the WWE and with sport and with entertainment and us taking the game, like I liked the thought of bringing the world together and closer via sport

I enjoy the fact that golf was being utilized as something for Saudi Arabia folks to get interested in more American sports like I liked the thought of sport bringing the world together because ultimately that's what I think sports are about and if the NFL is able to take their game over there and receive a huge payment, a fucking huge payment, I think it's good for the world as a whole. But yes, that number and the amount of apostrophes that'll be on that one, I assume only goes up, which is good for salary cap, good for the league, but also a very real situation.

Yeah, great. I don't know what that was that flight like 18 hours or something to try to get over They might have a bye week coming back from that one, but you're right like that's I mean They're doing another part if they're doing Australia if they're talking about doing a change like I don't think they give a shit about The Concord the new Concord's coming out in a year or two right remember Earth say was talking about it When they're new Concord, it's about the what I just give that thing a couple years Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I'm signing up for this get on the first one Yeah, just like Connor just said I'm on the seventh one. I don't know. I don't know if I'm signing up for this kid on the first one. Yeah.

Just like Connor just said, I'll go on the seventh one. Oh, like you let someone else in. I don't know about that. I'll go on it a month after it's in double digits, double digits. And that one at least maybe triple. That's like, I'm at a point now where people are trying to sell me planes, which is the layers. And it's crazy to me that the brand new ones are so much more expensive

Because if somebody comes up to me and they say they got a brand new plane I'm gonna say this thing's got no no this thing's never been up or down like well in tests, obviously It's like I'm not getting on that plane. Thanks. I need my bird to be experienced Okay, I need to experience a Midwestern wind a Midwestern fall I needed to go over there towards the Northeast whenever you know It's about to be winter and that Bay is humming like I'd like some hours on my plane I would like some hours on it. They were like, well, this is the one you want It's like no it is the fuck it is. I'm not getting on that thing

No way the wheels gone down and up yet because I've been on a plane where the wheels wouldn't go up Okay, and that's certainly something and then I've been on one where the wheels wouldn't go down for like a couple hours And they're like we think we might have to body this thing and it's like Okay I'm dying today. That's sweet. So I want my bird to have a little experience just like the Concorde if I'm not hopping on an actual rocket I'd like that thing to at least take a trip another round another round another round You know

I want one of those I want a drone like the human-sized drone where it's like the one-seater I get in I just Type my destination and it flies me 20 minutes to my house or something. That's what I'm looking for England for a game. Nah, I mean this is more shorter like hey I'm at the Thunderdome I need to go a 25 minute drive from here boom give me my little my little uber drone where I can order from my phone. Oh yeah. Right? Is that a helicopter if it's four choppers that are doing all the work?

I don't know you tell me. All right we'll wrap it up here. Netflix raw three o'clock Eastern one hour and six minutes from now. Should be a great time in London. If not, we're back tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye.

Nice. Torpedoed that thing. Yeah, it did. Yeah, you torpedoed the shit out of that thing. Still think that is... Genius. That feels like something they're gonna ban. Yeah, just seems like a genius play.

It was just the perfect storm where they used the bats and all of a sudden they got hotter and they faced pitchers that they see the ball well. Like what happened? Yeah, I mean they hit nine homers in their second game. They're not going to continue this pace. No, definitely not. Yeah, I mean that's what, yeah, the Brewers, they on Saturday they hit three homers in the first three pitches of the game.

And you know, so it's kind of really really started to heat things up there But yeah I mean anytime you hit nine homers in a game like I mean they scored so many runs and they just beat the shit out of Them that people are gonna say, you know, hey, yeah, you got a call competitive balance into but again Everyone had the opportunity to do something like this and it has kind of been around Before but like I said like if the Yankees or like the Dodgers or you know, like one of these big teams do this, it's obviously gonna get a lot more eyes on it. But we'll see. I would assume that, you know, more people are gonna

start using these in the coming weeks. Yeah, the boss. It's time to juice the balls. Okay, we don't want guys taking steroids. Fine. Get the torpedo bats on every team and juice the balls. And then we get the summer slam all over again and baseball is all The way back because I also saw a cool promo video of all the players and all the teams and it did make me want To watch baseball because that sweet music behind it and I show hey hitting Olmers with Aaron Judge Like this is this is such a simple fix to the problem baseball has had in the past. I'm with you coming I am Shocked from the news that you told me the Miami the guy that built these bats works for the fucking Miami

Yeah, that's how I answered your question. Hey Jay, that is not the best Yeah, that's definitely cuz we've been what one of shitty steam glass with real bad Samson was there? Me and Jazz is... We got Jazz and figured it out. Doug Goat. It's fucking ridiculous. But a lot of people are also saying that John Carlos Stanton used the torpedo bat last year and that's why both of his elbows don't work anymore. So maybe the weight distribution, you know, that could call something into...

We were swinging too hard. Yeah, exactly. Swinging too hard, those torpedoes. I think it's good for baseball i love it all right before i get out of here we gotta talk about something that obviously captivated some headlines um morgan wallen just wasn't told yeah he was supposed to talk to everybody or what do you think happened he just wanted to get back to god he just wanted to get back to god's country man i mean does the musical back to God's country, man. I mean, he spent New York. Does the musical act still spend all week there, or at least the last couple of

days there? Probably. He didn't just come in for Saturday. He spent the credits there. I know that. He was over it. He was over everything. So they had the photo. Remember they did the promo where he was standing on the side, didn't say anything, was just giving the looks. Morgan Wallen, my number one Spotify musician. So I am a big fan. I've had a chance to meet him a few times. Cool dude. When I heard he was doing Saturday lives, he was super pumped for him. Yeah. I walked out with him. You're right. I completely forgot about that. I walked out from that Lucas. The first one, I think it was like the first one, the first walkout, me and Tyree,

salad Burton. Obviously we were out there going mad silly dude. Mad dog. Mad doggy. No cap. No cap. It was so lit dude. We were doing it. So when I saw the first promo where he didn't say anything, he just kind of looked over and head nodded.

I was like, oh, this looks like it's going well. And then I saw him at the end give the ass out hug, not the in hug and then I saw him just fucking a roll right out towards the camera I mean I left my ass. I laughed said I was supposed to be funny. I laughed very hard. I left very hard He said he was not I don't know if it was him or somebody in his team said he was he did not know he thought Sure, it was over. He thought he was just supposed to to go on and get out of there so I think it's a legendary exit and then he gets the teeter-burrow and he says get me back to my dirt bikes and get me back to my 40s and get me back to God's country and I think obviously I assume he was honored to be a part of Saturday Night Live but he did something

that's never been done before and that show's been on a long time. I laughed so fucking hard though. So hard watching it take place. Nobody pulled him and he never watched the end. Like what if he never got to the end of Saturday Live and they're like, you know, it's been on for 50 years. And he's like, yeah, yeah, we'll say goodbye and get all right. All right.

Fucking. Yeah. It's incredible. I love it. I love it. I laughed so hard. What's the issue? What do people think? They think the staff didn't or the crew, the cast didn't like him or he didn't like the cast? Is that what happened? I don't know.

Or he just had to get home. No, he just didn't know. That was the same way he left all week long. That's just how it went. Every time I've been up here, I fucking write it. It says exit. Is that where people said that maybe, you know, he didn't get along or they didn't get along or that's all some terrible things said about Morgan by people on the internet

because obviously they can say that he's given he's provided an opportunity throughout his entire life for that to happen. But keep on trucking Morgan. You did great. You did absolutely great. And your exit is one they'll talk about forever. They'll actually say next time, Hey, don't do the Morgan wall. So that like, they'll say that forever. Yes. You know, and that's what that's what legends do. So legends do brother. All right. I'm going to do this program. I can't thank you guys enough.

1,750 tickets on sale Wednesday at noon just been opened up just been opened up. Let's go. Hell. Yeah Do you think there's a background on that graphic I can't we mean It's just black. Yeah, there is actually There's a little like a black badly gravelly kind of feel to see Yeah, why would you want to see that? You know, like why would you if you were making the graphic you take all the time to put the city of Pittsburgh? In the background of the graphic, you know, I don't see why would you want anybody to see it? That's not I'm just happy it says big night out Pat. I'm really just happy to see that on there. Oh

That's not I'm just happy it says big night out Pat. I'm really just happy to see that on there Well, it is I do worry that my I do worry that my leadership and coaching is just not good because This D bone guy, you know We'll get to a new graphic and It's like have I taught you nothing have we have you? Or my words not can you hear are you deaf what is the in my not saying so I'll tell you what D-bone has really challenged me to become a better orator and for that I appreciate him because the guy's a

fucking talent the guy's a fucking talent and he knows it but great graphic here and it's great news cannot wait for big night out week and a half from today. It's happening Oh shit That'd be cool I sent the video in where I'm mad. Can you guys pull that all we play that? What what does that room use for? Do you know look at this? used for it you know look at this. sick. Oh yeah.

So there's a back room. Oh hell yeah. I mean that's every arena should have all the rooms like this. Good lad. That's Eddie O'Rango one of our greatest officials here at the WWE said hey I got a room for you brother nobody knows about it and then bang I walked into this thing. That's all I know. That's where I'm at right now.

That is sweet. Literally that's where I'm. I guess it's a green room. I wonder who I wonder who all has been here like and I don't see a oh yeah there is one right there I guess I was gonna I was thinking maybe this is a sure yeah cover that thing up they've done some things in there I don't think we want to know what happens in that room yeah don't get a blacklight on that couch I mean look at a waterfall yeah they have a decorated on that couch. I mean look at a waterfall. Yeah

Decorate a jungle for a reason. I mean the whole thing is a mirror on one side You think you're bowing in here? I think there's a chance. There's more bone in here. Yeah, right with those mirrors That's what they're for Is that cloth is that cloth on the couch you want some leather you can wipe up, you know, that's gonna Seep into that that claw. Mm-hmm. Oh Oh boy, that's bad news. They seem cleaning. Yeah, I Wonder who's saving I said on here Mick Jagger. Yeah for everybody's this could be Ringo's

All the Beatles yeah Yeah. Really. Even John. Allegedly. Paul, obviously. I got some lefty steaming in here. You're right. Good question. All right, I'm out of here. I'll see you boys. See you, brother. Go get them, fellas. So Netflix, 3 PM Eastern, correct? Netflix, 3 p.m. Eastern on the road to WrestleMania Yeah, we're close. What happens tonight? Who's coming out tonight? He's possibly somebody that we can't see Yeah, I think you know, I don't know. I look at that be a great act. I thought we were done making those jokes What they're not funny then you can't see me. Is there a final boss? I want John Cena to start rapping again Honestly, he never stopped. I wonder if Cody Rhodes is gonna play clash of clans in the middle of the ring

I think there's a chance. What do I want to talk about AJ? Triple H is gonna keep protecting Cody Rhodes. Oh He won't let him go face to face cuz yeah, Cena would destroy him He won't let him go face to face cuz yeah senior would destroy him with promo We'll see you cook him on the mic is Dwayne over there. You mean the final boss boss. I don't know No, actually, I saw he couldn't get out to the ufl game because his flight had to turn around me Yeah, like from Hawaii over the ocean. How was the ufl a great weekend? Didn't uh, Oh buddy made a kick destroyer strong. You're trying to kick 39 yard a lot of good tackling yeah skip Holtz and

some other head coach almost got into a fistfight I did not miss that it's pretty sweet I watch Jordan town I get a bonus sometimes you think the rock pays him a bonus of coaches fight like a more eyeballs like they all want bonuses and that was kind of why we almost didn't have the UFL this year they did they did have the first down technology right this, this is where we get new technology that will eventually get to the NFL, right? Yeah, that was sweet to see. So it must be a chip in the ball and then this on the field?

Like how did they? What technology did they use that the NFL won't use? Microprocess. Give us that. I'm assuming they're using the same. Probably microprocess. I'm assuming they're using the same. But you know how bad that would hurt to come in

and make that tackle? Oof. Who would? Throw the fist up, fourth down. Wow. They're using the same. Great tackle. How bad that would hurt to come in and make that tackle? Who would? Throw the fist up, fourth down. Wow. So do we think this has legs, this league? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, the crowd was packed all the games. Definitely has legs. I mean, first, like a centipede. Oscar Pistorius. These guys, every guy playing on this field, they're all elite football players. No doubt about it. So much better than anybody we've watched play

in high school and mostly in college. Agreed. But it's weird when it's not the NFL, D, but why is it so hard to get invested in something that's not the NFL? Oh, here we go, this is Pukas' brother, right? Yeah, it's Pukas' brother. Both of Pukas' brothers scored, I believe.

Yeah, it's on that. Really? Good day. I feel like I'm watching any given Sunday. That's why I can't get on board with it, because it's like, these aren't NFL uniforms. Like I feel like I'm watching any given Sunday That's why I can't get on board with it because it's like these aren't NFL uniforms Like I feel like I'm watching a movie where they couldn't get NFL licensing and we have these weird Michigan Panthers like I'm just never gonna get there with that. Where are they ever? Where's the game? Where these guys still in that Simmons Bank State Michigan Panthers will play at Ford Field. I know that okay

So they have home. Yes home Venues well, the thing is like it that doesn't matter like that's what the indoor league does like college football in the NFL are such Incredible products where like even the step down like you I mean LeBron kind of mentioned it with college basketball Even the step down from college to NBA people have a tough time with and like something like that Versus a college game is a level and then obviously I mean you guys know like down from college to NBA people have a tough time with and like something like that versus a college game is a level and then obviously I mean you guys know like college NFL is another level so it's like it's just you know it's fun. You got to be invested you got to be invested in the players that's the problem if obviously

you have a buddy or a family member playing you're gonna go like and you're gonna be all in but outside of that How do you get casuals to all of a sudden be interested in something? That's a new startup more POV Kim That's certainly a way to start innovation. Yeah Doing an f1 series, you know, that's how people go on that one. I know the Netflix. Yeah Yeah, I also don't know you can't do it the like the March Madness is on this weekend It's like the biggest games of the year Like I'm not it's very hard always like so and I know

the you know elite aid is going on but fucking you if else he's a star I mean what Joe Clatt was calling the game wasn't he yeah I mean like Fox is you know big time yeah cool cuba fell asleep during it no did he just saw he wasn't a huge fan, but I also didn't see exactly what happened Speaking of lower leagues Bruce bought season tickets to Fishers Freight the indoor league starts soon I have a barnstormers. Oh a season over next week I'll see what sport is it indoor indoor football league fishers freights 1 & 0 41 29 victory And that first is actually very fun to watch in person. There's big hits, there's touchdowns all over the place. Any players we know? Um, yeah, me. I'm actually playing quarterback. Not

yet. You should go play some safety. What position? I should play quarterback for uh, touch push. That's where I was last week. Six touchdowns. Wait, where do they play? What kind of venue is it? Uh, it's uh, it's a new venue. It's nice. Around here in Fitchers. It's seats like 7,000. It's where like the Indy fuel yeah Blake Shelton, sir that's right Yeah, that's a big play for us. So is this a this is your arena? We just is just a the league that a be headed team. Oh, you got my the Albany Empire

I don't know if that T league exists. Yeah I'm about the Albany Empire. I don't know if that T league exists. Yeah Was 83. Oh, yeah, this is the IFL. Yeah, this isn't like this is a really this is a fool game Well, I think none to us a lot of people were saying Joseph jr. My win defensive I did hear that Game huh, how do you go into a game? Huh? How do you afford that? He decided not to get McDonald's last week. These guys are later on the line. They're affordable family friendly prices.

Our entertainment. Yeah, a couple picked up a coup on a modern day gladiators. Some poor guy owns the team. That being said, this is like 10 minutes from my house I'll go to every fucking game if you don't think I'm gonna be Embedded in the aisle bench. You're crazy. Yeah, but you coach maybe Like a carry the goal line once the season over at home that RPO Friday 705 See you there. Yep, like Friday night. Yeah, now I get my high school fix in the off season. In the spring, you know. I miss Friday night lights usually in the spring.

Now I have it back. They got good booze cocktails in that place too. They do that. Sweet. We've showed it before, but the outdoor adult league where they wear no pads but it's still full contact. That is actually very that means

They send me messages all the time. Yeah, I need to Savannah bananas run where they're going around from field to field and playing football What is Savannah? But are they really traveling like they sell out big every stadiums? Okay Can you explain there's two teams right? Yep, two always two teams the same two teams play party animals and bananas Yeah, actually, okay Yeah, so party animals and bananas. Yeah. Actually, okay. Basically, baseball club, club trotters. Yeah. Basically. But are they, okay, are the outcomes,

how's, what are the outcomes? No, they're not fixed. They're playing like, I mean, they're just doing like cool dances before they throw it, but then they're like really pitching and they're really trying to hit it. Oh yeah. And they just have like sweet gimmicks.

Like old buddy on stills. Yeah, backyard baseball, where like you have have like activate stilts mode or something. So that's what we're doing. But activate bigger bad play though. Like they're legit baseball players. Yeah. Oh yeah. But do you have to audition because you have to be an absolute pro.

They got the guy who does like the back flip in the outfield before he catches, you know, pop fly. That's what I'm saying. Circus away. One of the rules they had was like in the ninth inning because they have certain rules with the fans too. Oh, those are awesome. I remember that from last year.

If you catch a ball or something. It was like if a fan catches a foul ball games over that team wins and it happened and like really people went nuts. I thought I thought they brought the fan onto the field. Like it was it was really cool actually. So they're still trying to win. Each team is trying to win the game. Yes.

But they are they each have their own little get paid Yeah, they each have their own form of entertainment Cool, but they eat like they all have like elaborate wall Sometimes I'll see the video the dude like walking in from the top of the stadium doing a choreographed dance with 80 people They have a good time. I know how many stops they have Know how many stops they have Sold out Fenway like not too long. Yeah, like for the season start for an entire weekend I mean they I'm not sure if they sold it out, but they sold like 60,000 tickets in the Raymond James for the Tampa Buccaneers play crazy. Has anyone made the jump to the majors?

I don't know if that's how it works tone I'm not confident that you are confident in what you said couple guys. That's not how it works Well, I think you may just said that I do think it's the office was he doing back foot. I think it is the opposite. We're like single a double a guys Will go to the banana guys To like they get paid because these guys are legit Shane Victorino was playing one of the other teams. He's like a former MVP Yeah, like he I don't know if he was on party animals with bananas

But I think he was a banana Johnny Damon Ryan Howard Johnny Damon. Yeah, they played like in a game Yeah, like they were really part of it. Not just like hey, this is an honorary at bat or no No, like they were part of the game. Oh, I don't know. They might have been a pinch hit situation But either way they were playing I mean if you can pitch off a stilt I'll give you credit You should win that game certainly that dudes on still yeah look that's where Raymond James. Yeah nuts. That's cool setup Wow Who won this one? If it's like I can't remember if it's a foul ball and a fan catches it it is called an out. Okay

We started it it's a good gimmick it's good. He reinforced it. He drove it home. It is true though, right? So If you hit a homer and you throw it back doesn't something happen. Yeah, they beat the shit out of you No, actually if you hit it down here if the fans throw the home run ball back then the club signs you and then you Leave them the World Series, but then your elbow fully heals. I can't throw the fastball anymore Chet Steadman's your your mentor. He's like a grumpy old guy right? He's dating your mom loves Salisbury State loves it Looks like he's like 58. You're still pitching in the majors Yeah, I'll call them. Don't call him the rocket anymore

Reference the movie you're talking to all the young people what anyone younger than you there's no movie reference, okay All right, the rules of the Rosenbacher That from top to bottom that was a great era of movies. I guess what it was all you know, you know you see now, right? Top to bottom that was a great era of movies. I guess what it was all yeah, you know, you buddy you see now, right? What was yeah, you ever seen I see I was trying to name I did not see it. Yeah, it was great Little giant I can't remember little giants. You see, you know, I say a lot spike Banger still haven't seen mighty ducks The big green

Gutenberg head coach Watching original space jam last night it holds up today. Oh, yeah, which one are you like better? They haven't even seen the new one. I made that run about space. Yeah, fuck space jam was legit. That's a movie Yeah, yeah, Jordan good magic stuff. I mean legit movie. I think he filmed didn't he film it in the middle of his three Pete Yeah, they built an entire I remember that right? Yeah, you would go play and bring it all the big-time deals And you can play I try to tell my kids that actually I was like, hey this there's a reason Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan He was filming this in the offseason He brought in all the best players in the world and played for eight hours

Oh, yeah, every single day to try to like let him, you know, just reinforce that Jordan didn't wake up and all of a sudden Become that good Glad you're forcing it. I did they didn't listen they didn't hear every day. Yeah Maybe it'll resonate they heard you think yeah some point again at one day, maybe not yesterday, but they heard you're right You're right someday with that being said I think we're gonna wrap this thing up tone Okay Anything we need to know as far as gambling moving forward from today until tomorrow when packets back. No nothing going on tonight Anything you can gamble on tonight the crown the crown basketball tournament starts tonight in Vegas

Okay, fuck is that it's not the NIT. It's not the CBI, but it is a college basketball tournament I think it's the first year to happen. It starts in Vegas Having played basketball in two months. So should be Yeah, like Arizona State's play in Nebraska Georgetown's play in Washington real teams. I'm confused. Yeah, like these are decent teams. I've never seen this before I don't know why it took so long to start. This is happening tonight I don't know why it took so long to start. But this is happening tonight. Bill and Nova?

Bill and Nova? Everyone's in the portal. I was confused as well, Foxy. These teams haven't played basketball in two months. They don't have a guy. I don't understand it. Tomorrow's April 1st. Is there a chance you got duped?

Oh. No chance. This is the crown, brother. OK. You got any plans for April Fool's? I'm a big April Fool's guy. That's why I asked. No. OK, what stupid April Fool's things are we going big April Fool's guy. That's why I asked. No.

Okay, what stupid April Fool's things are we going to wake up and hear tomorrow? So many. Aaron signed. Oh yeah, for sure. Yep. What if he was waiting to sign on April Fool's just to mess with you? That would be him. That'd be so Aaron.

No, I mean, April Fool's things, people, I don't know what the old classic go-tos are. I mean, a lot of people are going to get got on Twitter tomorrow. We're going to have a couple of celebrities that, you know, Twitter tomorrow we're gonna have a couple celebrities that you know die tomorrow which they're not dead but we're gonna get several of those. It's funny when we think someone's dead and then we say oh gotcha. I saw that just pass. Which one of you reference? I just saw them, I watch a lot of sports talk. Okay. For the record this person's alive though. I hope so. I think so. I mean, that's why I have multiple times. I just want

isolated. If I'm not confident that someone is dead, I'm not going to announce them dead. Just for the record. Just like I'm not going to ask if you're pregnant. Smart. Let them tell you. If you're dead, I need to see you dead or you need to tell me you're dead and if you're pregnant, I'm never asking.

You got to tell me. Bingo. I'll just say congratulations. I'm with you on that a thousand percent Yeah, it's smart. It's good rule. Everyone should be with you on that. They're not everyone's not I know they're not and also with you Man, look at you. How many months pregnant are you? And then the person's not I've been around a few of those Bobby stop You should bag some dog shit like tonight and like maybe you piss in like a couple plastic cups and set it out tomorrow and make your kids think that's what's for breakfast. That's a good idea. We don't have any groceries. This is the best we got to make do with what we got new diet and as they're

sloughing up the turds I got you April fools after I see him eat three bowls of it or or or you put some of that turd on like a doughnut and you're just like hey guys got doughnuts everyone's got you know you got chocolate frosting you got a you got a double chocolate store manager took his shit in our doughnuts if I do guys do if I end up doing that I will film it for you guys you sure yeah it will not traumatize my do it all Tony you got a kid I do guys do if I end up doing that I will film it for you guys It would not traumatize my do it all Tony you got a kid I do you could do it. How old is she? Uh two and a half. Oh, yeah, she gets it Dad fed me a poop doughnut today, but it was April Fool's luckily. He's not Yeah, it's a good one. I'll probably do it. Okay

Okay, good. Well tomorrow pass gonna he's gonna make the long flight back here, obviously tonight. Man, he's logging some miles. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. His schedule is unbelievable. But in 3 p.m. Eastern, WWE Raw from London, England, the O2 Arena, we'll be playing over to Netflix.

Check that out, that'll be awesome. We'll hear a couple pop-in guests, maybe, that aren't always around, might be there, right, Todd? Maybe. Maybe. We'll be awesome. We hear a couple pop in guests maybe that aren't always around might be there, right? Maybe. Maybe. We will be intrigued. I will be back in Ohio in the attic tomorrow. D-Butt, appreciate you. You'll be here tomorrow with Pat. Today's only Monday, huh? Okay, next week, big night out. Wednesday at noon, 1,750 more tickets will go on sale. It's gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see what that whole situation is like. It's gonna be super cool. I'm looking forward to it. Good to be back with you boys.

Everybody in the back, appreciate you guys helping me out and everything today. I'll be back tomorrow. Pat, we'd be here. Con man, good to see you. Ty. Tone, great job. You look good.

Break us down, Hawk. Break us down. Here we go guys. Everyone in the back, here we go. Get them up, here we go. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three, team!