The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1318 - Rule Changes From The League Meetings, Peter Schrager, "The Mayor" Sean Casey, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about all the new rules being passed at the league meetings in Palm Beach while the Tush Push discussion has been tabled until May. Joining the progrum to chat about the league meetings and what happens there as well as some of the other massive news stories floating around the NFL like Aaron Rodgers throwing with DK Metcalf, what’s going to happen with Kirk Cousins, and what he’s hearing about the top of draft is newest ESPN employee, former co-host of Good Morning Football, Emmy award winner, and NFL Insider, Peter Schrager. Next, 3x All-Star, Reds Hall of Famer, MLB Network analyst, and host of “The Mayor’s Office,” Sean Casey joins the show to chat about the torpedo bat craze, why he thinks they’re here to stay, the science behind what they’re doing, which teams are actually implementing them, and why he thinks its going to become more popular given the recent success. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this New Rules Tuesday, April 1st, 2025, this program starts now. Sports! Are happening all around us and obviously we're incredibly lucky to get a chance to chat about it every single day. Last night I was in London, what a wonderful town actually. Had a blast. Shouted to Wade Barrett being an incredibly hospitable host in all the points that we had slammed around the Thames River and such.

It was a great raw, it was a great atmosphere, it was a great crowd. Then I got a chance to fly back here to Indianapolis, Indiana. When I woke up this morning, holy hell, we're in a new world. There's a bunch of new rules happening in the NFL down at the league meetings happening down in Florida

where the weather looks spectacular, the hands hands have been shaken and there's been one particular rule that has been talked about all week maybe all season where one team is better than everybody else that one team might be tougher than everybody else one team needs to be punished and no longer allowed to do the tush push well they one had put a pin in that they're gonna circle back in May allegedly was a split decision a split room 16 for the band 16 against Well, they went ahead and put a pin in that. They're going to circle back in May. Allegedly it was a split decision, a split room, 16 for the band, 16 against the band.

They will further discuss it in May, they will say. Now, if they're doing that, people around the internet, and listen, hey, you know, the internet, especially today. Let's keep our head on us a little bit. Yeah, yeah, we never know. April 1 on the internet is a, it's a wild place. Oh yes. Especially the AI nowadays.

Sure. Don't be, don't be getting fooled. Okay. Don't be thinking there's a palm tree extra point upright. Okay. For FAU. Sounds cool. They look neat.

Yeah, it did. But there's going to be a lot of that. But what everybody I Mean I put this sweet up. Oh, no Just to out myself as somebody that looked at this and thought to myself. This is awesome and Then you know Connor looks over me goes are we sure this is real on April 1st? And then that's when you see the oh, no

No, I fell for this on April 1st. And then that's when you see the oh no. Oh no. Oh no. I fell for this. I hope that Coastal Carolina isn't doing an April Fool's because I learned about this yesterday. Yeah. There's no, did they do a pre-April? No way. Ladies and gentlemen Coastal Carolina football team announced this just yesterday on the internet. Don't know how this works. What's up boss?

Hey, how's it going? Good. What's the damage? Free. Free. What about the damage? Free. Free. Well, what about for this? Free as well.

Free. All of it free. You want some nachos? Yeah. Free too. All free. All free. Free.

Can I get 50 of these? Yeah. Free. Free. What about a drink? All of it free. Free. Have two drinks.

Drinks? Cool. And a hot dog. Yeah. Hot dogs free to all free there you go free free sweet that's right till nation this fall in Brooks Stadium every fan every game always free free concessions popcorn nachos hot dog fountain drinks and water for every fan this fall come out to Brooks Stadium get your tickets now and cheer on the shots go shots hey Bob I don't know who you are but you're gonna see a visit from Come out to Brooks Stadium, get your tickets now, and cheer on the shots. Go shots. Hey, Bob, I don't know who you are, but you're gonna see a visit from us. I mean, we're gonna test this thing.

There has to be some sort of limit in this entire- I said every homeless guy in the country. I mean, it's gonna be tough to keep the homeless out of there. Obviously, getting a free meal and free drink for not only yourself, but maybe the next week could be an opportunity for someone to take advantage of down there.

But nonetheless, I thought this, then I thought the palm trees on my college ball is becoming minor league baseball. I love what we're doing. I don't know how that's going to work out for them. I honestly, I genuinely, in a time where everybody's trying to get money for the NIL stuff and trying to figure it all out, they're like, let's go the opposite direction.

Let's give away everything. Everything. And if they fill that place up, they're thinking merch, maybe there'll be purchases and ticket sales obviously going to go up. There has to be a fill that place up, they're thinking merch maybe there'll be purchases and ticket sales obviously gonna go up. There has to be a limit. One drink, one food item. I don't know, because I saw that guy.

That's not what he said. 15 nachos. That guy had two drinks, a hot dog, nachos and everything else on there. So Palm Tree's not real. We believe that was in March. Right. For week one at least.

Okay, so anyways, that's happening. Roger Goodell, allegedly, if something gets tabled for another meeting, it is something that he is looking to potentially further explore, which means, hey, we are gonna have to figure this thing out. And maybe it does just go down to one person's allowed to push in May,

or maybe it just remains the same. And if it does, the Philadelphia Eagles will continue to take a victory lap because not only are they the ones that are gonna be the loudest will continue to take a victory lap because not only Are they the ones that are going to be the loudest about this because they've had the most success They want a Super Bowl display being a massive piece of their team their fans are loud to social media I don't know if you saw the Philadelphia Eagles just posted on their Twitter a peach with a push on it Yeah, just say hey tush pushes ours. It survives another day. Yep. There it is

But there's been a lot of rules that have changed. We'll chitchat about that. There's a lot going on in the sport of baseball, which I did not expect us to chitchat about as much as we have thus far. Hockey's happening, obviously, records are on the line. And college basketball in the middle of its biggest time. Today should be a fantastic day.

Peter Schreger will be joining us, the newest member of the ESPN team. He was formerly at NFL Network and at Fox. Now he will be joining ESPN as an ESPN NFL representative. Schreger, old friend of ours, obviously an Emmy Award winner, cannot wait to see him back, or I don't know if he's ever been with ESPN.

I don't think so. And we can't wait to chat with him. Talks tables here at Boston Conner, at Tystrom 8. One half of the hammer Cowboys AP tone is here tone I see you wearing this Steelers hoodie which is perfect for nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here looking very cool Pittsburgh Steelers Aaron Rodgers DK Metcalf playing catch. I've seen a lot of conversation about that still happening What do you think the final outcome is? Opening day of the NFL

season, who's quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers? Aaron Rodgers. Oh, yeah, for sure. No question about it. But yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers. I mean, just looking at it, I don't see, I know people are still talking Vikings and hanging that out there. I don't see that happen. I see Aaron Rodgers being the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Hopefully that announcement doesn't come today, but that is April Fool's, but I think it is coming at some point before the draft. That's just me. I'm sure most people probably feel like that because I don't think we, none of us up here think Eric's going to retire. Yeah. Well, especially after this workout at UCLA. Now, Amen Culture and Ari Pulley NFL got this video in the photos.

He's wearing all black. You know, Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously black and gold team throwing a DK Metcalf. Doesn't seem to be throwing to anybody else. Seemed to be in rhythm. This obviously comes after a meeting that he took in Pittsburgh, AP Tone. Whenever you see the photos and you see the video,

do you start fantasizing? Because I saw people even analyzing Aaron Rodgers' hand size on the internet. I saw a tweet that goes, we go from Kenny Pickett's hand size to Aaron Rodgers' hand size on the football. It feels like everything that comes out gets Steelers fans either more excited or make a decision already, we're sick of waiting on this guy.

Yeah, it's a little bit of both. This actually kind of pissed me off quite a bit. What? For being honest. Tony. That's exactly it. That makes sense. What are we doing?

Okay, you're out here throwing with DK, parading around, sign on the dotted line already. What? Like, parading? What is that? Parading around, you're gonna work out. He wanted to see if DK could catch before he wanted to join the Steelers

or what the situation here is. Get the vines. If he doesn't sign with this point, oh boy, but no But as but you know, oh boy what oh boy what what was this for then? What was it just to piss everybody off both in Los Angeles? In the lights no what what you don't think maybe they just so Happen to be in Los Angeles and amen culture was right around the corner and they Said let's go get a workout and why not there's a chance Maybe we can be teammates a lot of people talk about everybody's talking about it. Look how happy they are big smiles

Yeah, so they so they should make it official and be teammates But no, but then I thought you know This is where Tom was working out before he went to Tampa won the Super Bowl and I see Aaron Yeah, and I see him throwing a dec DK and I picture him in the jerseys. I see eight thrown to four, okay? To many, many touchdowns. I assume it'd be eight. Why not?

How'd you feel about the backwards hat? I love the backwards hat. Love it. Love it. That's great vibes. That's just how it's. Watching that thing come out too, still spinning it, just like at the end of the year.

It is, I thought there'd be more wide receivers, you know? Yeah, where's GP? Rap sheet, well, I don't know if he's just setting up full off-season workouts for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I thought there'd be more of a collection of wide receivers. Like I thought DK Metcalf would be there, but also like a two or a three from another team

would also be working out. And we're all making a big deal out of it just being DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers. Then the photos come out and it's like Amen cultures out there. Yep. Aaron's out there and DK Metcalf. Do we know who set it up? Was it Aaron? Was it Amen cultures? It was Aaron. DK? So Aaron just hit up. Do they have the same representation or what's the outside of it? I don't know if it was for sure to be honest. I don't know if anybody does but you know your quarterback, the quarterback's normally the ones that organize it. I so Aaron called to the moon and the moon answered in the moon. The DK. I mean, if I'm George Pickens, I'm

raising hell in Pittsburgh. He might have been invited. He might have been down in Florida. If George got invited, he would have been there. So if I'm GP, I'm saying, you know what, Aaron, go to hell. I'm shipping somewhere else, brother. Trade me right now. And guess what? I'm gonna make a fuss about it I'm gonna make a big ol fuss about it cuz I'm wondering if we were gonna be able to co-exist Yeah, hey guess what I can coexist with DK I can't coexist with this hippie cuz he can't even send me a text or call to the moon for me and plus At the end of the day look at those look at Aaron's arms

You guys kind of jacked up has he been he's been lifting a little bit more. He's been working out. Maybe got a new better trainer, perhaps maybe he's kind of on his on the up and up when it comes to his physique because good Lord the man looks Jacked if I'm pissed, I'd be taking a different strategy on the body. I don't look at the veins in his arms the forearms I mean this doesn't look a match made in heaven. Okay maybe potentially but the more I see of it I'm like oh this is definitely uh Hey, so he wants he went into the Pittsburgh Steelers UPMC practice facility I wonder if he had a meal there too just to fool out. Maybe. First time ever being a free agent first time ever getting a chance to like learn about what I'm gonna potentially sign up for.

Allegedly the money's been figured out and it is all good. Now it's just what does he want to do and watching that video it's like I don't think he's retiring. No. Yeah. Your backwards hat in the middle of a workout. Exactly. I don't think you're retiring at that point and he's moving smooth. Remember end of the season. Yeah a little bit more healthy on that Achilles. I think they looked a lot different. I season, a little bit more healthy on that Achilles. I think they looked a lot different. Just like we all kind of assumed, even though it was always dangling there, there's no way he's going out like that with the Jets.

No. There's no way that's going to happen. Seems to be a formality here happening inevitably, but what if it doesn't? Don't say, better not be. Better not be. He could have called Justin Jefferson. He did.

He called DK Mecha. Just saying. Good point. Good point. Fair point. What are the Vikings saying? There's a lot of things being said down at the owners meetings down in Florida a lot of chatter Chitter chatter a lot of hanging out Jay Glazer was with every head coach everybody smoking cigars. That is Jay Glazer football I wonder what Jay was bringing the boys around for you know If you look to Jay Glazer's video that he posted on social right next to him Dan Quinn and obviously you got Shanahan McDaniel KOC Those are the boys the McVeigh boys, you know, then he kind of go around scatter through

I think maybe some newer coaches further away from Jay Glazer the closer you are to Jay Glazer Obviously the better you are than Andy Reid's right next to him. Yep, and I do want a pretty cool day Jay Glazer says I could fathom I could imagine I do wonder what the meeting of the minds is happening here at owners meetings because Just like at the combine Obviously they're watching and scouting and doing that but it's the conversations that are happening off hours that are kind of getting everything done here It's combine free agency and stuff. I wonder how many off-hour conversations are taking place down there amongst the coaches about like hey We need to try to work on this together to better the league We need to do this or hey who can hammer the most of my own beers here. I like to get a good camaraderie setting

and I'm happy Jay Glazer seemingly the guy bringing them together. Yeah he's obviously holding the court that's that's Glazer football. I'm interested to see what what he breaks um at some point but these are you know a lot of conversations happen we talk about it always being a fraternity amongst players same way with coaches I'm sure this is when some of the conversations may happen about maybe hey I just got a free agent from your team Maybe some more conversation about the quarterback or receiver how he's gonna be in a locker room or in a community Other coaches other people in their new spots putting Ross their coaching staffs together So all these kind of conversations are happening obviously these rules that that have been voted upon that will be passed won't be passed will be tabled

So all these things are happening, but I'm excited to see what glaze comes out with pretty soon here on that note A man who's been in that circle before guys been in every circle before I believe if we If I recall the story correctly He like slept on people's couches down in like the senior bowl whenever he was getting in. Went to school down in Georgia, very, very... Emory. Emory. I think so. I think it's like...

Yeah, very prestigious. Tough to get into. I think it's very... Selective. Very, very... Need to know the right people. Yeah, I don't think it's just an easy... Okay. Yeah, I don't think I'm anywhere near getting in there or whatever. Anyways, chose to take the long road in the NFL media world. Insider, analyst, pundit, mock drafter,

handshaker, Emmy award winner is what inevitably it all led to with Good Morning Football. Now, he is joining ESPN, an legend ladies and gentlemen front of the program Peter Schrager Dude what an awesome intro I cannot believe you're on air and fine after being in London like last night where I was watching you I don't know. You're incredible, dude. I love it. No, that's you shrinks and to be quite transparent No, that's you Shregs and to be quite transparent For those that have the ability and if there's a direct flight

London at like a nighttime flight you land in the morning like 7 38 a.m Have a day then whenever you fly if you can fly back at night you land 5 a.m 6 a.m. In the morning, so you're in there. I think if you stay for a few days and you get onto their time, I think you're in trouble. But I think if you just go in, stick and move, because I did it with Scotland last week, you know, had to get back because Mr. LeBron James was gonna stop by the Thunderdome.

So that's been actually fun to get over there. I assume you've traveled to Europe numerous times. I have had a blast, it was very, very nice over there. Very nice. It's amazing. And I don't know how the wrestling fans are, but like we go for the NFL games and they just want sports and they want the NFL. And I was watching you on Raw and it's like, it's the same exact thing for the wrestling,

obviously. And the juice is a little different. They're not, it's not like they're not spoiled or anything or that the American sports fans are spoiled, but they're so gracious and so happy that you're bringing your product to them. It's like, oh, come on, this is a dream for us too. It's truly awesome. And I thought you were amazing on it.

Thank you. Well, they're born and raised in the Hooligan atmosphere too. You know, like soccer games, they're singing through the game. There's a lot of action, even though there's not a lot of goals being scored the fans I don't want to say have to generate the juice, but they kind of do and they carry that into everything It's almost like the Pacific Northwest, you know, like the Pacific Northwest. They're gonna be good fans

Bingo, they'll show up for that. Like yeah, that is Anyways, welcome to ESPN. We're pumped to hear we just showed the video Jay Glazer kind of sitting down chit-chatting and mingling Down the owners meetings. We assume you've been before but let's talk about How some of these rules get passed that are currently happening? So for instance the tush push it has been tabled for May has been tabled for me What does that mean? Does that mean a commissioner or some people want to kind of rally and find some votes? What is normally happening behind the scenes, Schrags? I've been doing this for a long time as far as the competition committee goes.

And usually you'll have a rule proposed and maybe there'll be two or three people who are like, yes, let's do it. This tush push took on a whole different life of its own, almost like it was an election of some sort and that there were people lobbying other people for votes. It split 16 to 16, meaning it's a dead split as to who wants to get rid of it and who wants to keep it. Now you would need to get eight more votes to get rid of it. The league though, you'd think that the league, the league is one of the main sources of like, Hey, we don't have any injury data to push that it has to be removed. If this was a bunch of injuries and guys were getting concussed and we have data, hard empirical

evidence that there are knees being shattered because of this thing, well, then I promise you the league would be pushing that direction. They don't have that data. There is no data around it. What's interesting is you've got some big personalities who are lobbying to see some changes and it's a different You know breed of coaches. It's mcveigh. It's laflore raheem morris these guys and I talked to Like this tush push. It's gross. It's crap. Like it's not it's not What yeah, it's a scrum schrags, you know, it's an ode to the past while still paying tribute to today.

The modern athlete takes on old school sport. And to your point, whenever Philly lines up and does it, it's like, okay, they're going to pick up two to four yards and they're going to get a first down. So they're playing like CFL football. It is first in nine for them. And they have three downs basically to get to that and I think that's kind of their big point right is if it was so easy everybody would do it. Do we think more people now if this thing remains will start to try to implement it or

how do you see it kind of going if the rule doesn't change going forward? Well that's an age-old debate Jeff Stoutman and the boys in Philly have mastered this thing and teams have tried and they have not succeeded. And one of the interesting people who's really against it is Sean McDermott, who's on the committee. And of course, Sean McDermott ran several different quarterback sneaks in a big AFC championship game that got stuff, you know, one yard short. And a lot of people are saying, hey, just because you can't do it, don't get rid of it. And McDermott's point is no, that's an injury waiting to happen. And this thing is hideous. Like seeing Frankie Louvue jump over the line of scrimmage four times and having a ref come out and be like, look, I'm just going to give them a touchdown.

That's not fun. That's not great. But if you're an Eagles fan, you're like, you know, come and stop us. Like figure it out. Machismo and bravado. And it becomes this thing of like testosterone and like, you know, we're the bullies in town. I almost think it's kind of cool if they get rid of it and the Eagles can look at each other and be like, we're that good at this if they had to ban it from the league. Yeah, the Philadelphia Eagles doing this and being the team is so perfect for their city. I mean, it's so perfect. Sorry, we're too tough. Sorry, you Jones aren't

gritty enough to be able to stop us. It's like what a perfect city, perfect coach to Siri on dogs. We want dogs. Sorry, our dogs are hungrier than your dogs. You know, O line D line Howie, that's all he cares about. Like it is such a perfect situation. And that's my, that's also my favorite aspect of this. Howie obviously didn't play college or professional football. Howie's this brilliant mind, but talking to Howie about, he's got his chest out a little bit.

Like, oh, poor babies. Like, you guys can't talk. There's a little bit of that. And that bleeds throughout the entire city and it goes right through to Miles Teller and Bradley Cooper and the fans that you see. Like, we're just tougher than you. like bring it and you know you see these coaches and McVeigh is obviously you know you saw him in Whitworth in the gym like he's no softy but he's like

it's just not good football it's gross like it's a rugby play I don't know that's not what we want to encourage but it's now split and as far as whether it gets changed I don't think the NFL and this one has a strong point of view. It's going to be how hard do these people want to lobby to get the eight votes? And then it becomes like any election where like, are you going to go campaign? Like is McVeigh going to spend the next April and May like calling other coaches who are neutral and being like, I really don't know if he's that passionate about it. OK, so let's roll through the rules that did pass here quickly.

Kickoff will now go to the 35 after a touchback which is good. Kickers also are allowed to bring their own balls into the games which is awesome. Look for punters to hit massive balls. Like this is gonna benefit the punters greatly and obviously kickers as well but every time a punter goes on the field if he's gonna have a broken in ball, there's a chance we see some like five, eight, five, nine hang time. Maybe even like a six, oh hang time. You guys were putting brand new balls before?

No, so it wasn't brand new balls. It was like 30 minutes of broken in before the game. One equipment manager from each team was deemed the person to break in the balls. And then an official would come watch. They had a brush, a towel, and a squirt water bottle. And they had 30 minutes under supervision to break in the balls and then an official would come watch they had a brush a towel in a squirt water bottle and they had 30 minutes under supervision to break in the balls. Highly anxiety riddled for the equipment managers who have a lot of other shit to deal with right before the game and then

our guy would come out his name was Frog he'd be dripping in sweat you know I got some good ones for you guys today. We say thank you Frog and then Frog would have a great Christmas you know because that is a that is a big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We take care of Frog, obviously. Frog, good man, good lad. Also worked his ass off in there for 30 minutes every single week. There's some teams that have shitty ones. Back in the day, it was brand new balls. So there's always been a lot of K-ball conversation. Now they're going to be able to bring their own balls to the games. Look for punters to hit gigantic balls. You know, who's big on like an advocate for special teams is Darren Rizzi and he's got

a big voice in the competition committee. So Rizzi of course, the Riz was obviously the interim coach of the Saints, but was instrumental in changing the dynamic kickoff. But when you talk about the competition committee and the different voices who matter, obviously like you know, Tomlin's been there forever and, and there's voices like McVeigh who's big on that and McDermott, but like a voice like Darren Riz Tomlin's been there forever and, and there's voices like McVeigh who's big on that and McDermott But like a voice like like Darren Rizzi who's been doing the special team stuff who's now the Barranco special teams corner He's almost a voice of like hey, here's what the punters and kickers need and it's kind of cool to have that voice

Also, you know vocalizing in those rooms. Yeah, I don't want to say that coach Riz is the one texting me But I'll just say my source That used to be an interim head coach and is now special teams Senate text we fucking did it it passed 35. That was the Texas So he's like jacked though, like they're like all jacked about it. So This crew of like the Parcells guys and it's like Joe fit and Sean Payton and Riz like and there's like the last Bastion of like the last bastion of like the old school like this is how it should be and Baron Rizzi is

definitely carrying that torch from the special team side. Okay so new ball touchbacks go to 35 we kind of expected that hopefully that'll be good for the landing zone and more returns they also were able to add another returner into the back into the middle area, which is good. Replay assist, let's talk about this, Schrags. This was kind of happening last year at the end of the year, I think, without us kind of knowing it. They were kind of growing it, expanding it.

And I think it was good for the game. They saw the same thing. What does this mean, you think, from your eyes? And what does the future mean in your eyes with this rule change, Schrags? Well, I think Kevin's on it here, and some context on this. They're not gonna have New York throw a flag. Like, Schrags? Well, I think Kevin's on it here and some context on this. They're not gonna have New York throw a flag.

Like New York can't say, actually that was pass interference, or actually that was defensive holding. New York can't do that. But if a flag is thrown and it's egregious, New York City can come and pipe into the referees and be like, pick that flag up. Like that's not gonna, that's not the call.

So that's a change, it's progress. I don't think we're ever gonna go back and do it where we did the past interference reviews, which we had a couple of years back, which was a nightmare and would take 15 minutes and stop a game and then the refs would always side with their original call anyway. But this is one where there can be a impartial party

up in New York saying, hey, actually that one wasn't, you can pick up the flag, but they cannot demand a flag be thrown after the fact. Yeah I think that's a smart move and as long as they're quick and efficient and the right people are looking at the Xbox or whatever they're running it with and sending it down there to your point is good. The overtime stuff I think that pass they're going to have the same as you get a chance to answer but it is in a 10-minute period as opposed to in playoffs It's never-ending until somebody wins the game and I think they'll consider it a successful week meeting down here way to go boys

Real quick that that that glazer video that you showed so that's like Jay's like that's Jay's Christmas like that This is and that is that is like 20 years in the. And it started with like him and Tomlin getting drinks and then it expanded. And it's, it's the Tuesday after the coaches in the NFC have their breakfast. So everyone's kind of done and Jay gets all the head coaches together. And having been at that table with him, Jay was cool enough to invite me several times at these league meetings. It's hilarious. And they're not talking about free agents.

They are getting bombed right now because they've been seeing a conference for the last 48 hours listening to presentations and dark lighting and dealing with their kids and their wives who are all there. And this is like their one time away. So Brian Dable's got his legs crossed. The cigar will be coming out shortly and Andy Reed is

hanging. He's not a drinker, but he'll hang and have a good time too. Yeah. The Mormon will toss down a diet coke. Congrats to the boys The boys yard it out there. All right Shregs we got some questions about other stuff that we know that you will know the answer to obviously one of the greatest mock Traffickers in the history of mock drafts D. Butch has a question for you pal. Absolutely on that mock drafting No, uh hasm is basically come out say look took a big swing and a miss from Deshaun. That lies on me.

Take full accountability. But now sitting there at number two, the tea leaves are kind of saying momentum is going towards Abdul Carter going and pairing up with Miles Garrett in Cleveland. What's your thoughts and feelings on what Cleveland's gonna do with that number two pick as it stands right now?

Well, they're not there yet. Here's the key thing. I think everyone doing the mock drafts, and I respect it. I like to wait until about two weeks beforehand when the pro days are done. You know, Shador Sanders hasn't had his pro day yet. It's this week. It's April 4th and he hasn't had any private workouts with teams. So you're talking about if this guy's going to be my second overall pick, he didn't throw it the combine. We might have met with him for 15 minutes, but I got to get my hands on him. I got to AC him at his pro day and then B I've got to bring him into our building and see how he interacts and how it goes.

You look at Cleveland's quarterback situation, finally they're ripping the bandaid off. They're going to pay to Sean Watson. He's going to get paid. But Kenny Pickett's the quarterback for now. There's a lot of smoke around them making a play for cousins. Raheem Morris doubled down this morning saying, you know, we're happy with Cousins being a backup. Keep an eye on that. But I wouldn't open any doors and say that, hey, just because, you know, they're done with Watson, this means it's Shador Sanders. You're right, Dibat, that it sounds like Abdul Carter.

You put him and Miles Garrett together. You have Kenny Pickett. And if Kirk Cousins comes to be great. But there's also some other quarterbacks that they can look at later on. And that might be Tyler Schuck, that might be, you know, Jackson Dart, Quinn Ewers. No one feels like they are so desperate right now to get Shador Sanders.

But if he blows them away, that's an option they can do. They leave the door open, they can do so. Yeah, Will Howard is well-trained, so as you're doing, you gotta back home. I was gonna say to you, I gotta tell you, when you guys were at Ohio State, I forget it was probably before the playoff game. It was freezing cold. You guys were just there. And I was working for NFL Network and Fox. And it was like a loosey goosey day you guys had on there. And my wife and I are watching and I'm like, I really appreciate these guys. I got to join this crowd.

You guys were, it was the day you were messing with Zaire Franklin. And I'm like, Oh, I like it. I gotta join this crowd. You guys were, it was the day you were messing with Zaire Franklin and I'm like, oh, I like it, it's so fun. Messing with Zaire, yeah. I was like, it was good. But I'm like, the fact that you have this ability to go with your boys a day before

a college football playoff game, sit in the cold, laugh your asses off. It's great content and I so appreciate even being on the show now because I wasn't able to this past season. The sky's the limit now and you guys do such a great job. Strange, we're lucky to have you back. Yeah, it's very good.

It's not always, you know, Lucy Goosey's not always good, you know, is what we have learned, but we're trying to get better every day. We're trying our best to get better to be an additive to society. But I will say those sideline passes games are the most absurd things of all time. And that's what we saw.

That's what we saw. Well, I mean, it was just like, we saw, we saw CJ Stroud and we're not going to act like we were the only people that saw it. But at that time, CJ Stroud was not being talked about as being the guy. Like this is not the guy. No, he still got passed against Georgia 80 yards

and everyone's like, wait a second. Not even that. He jogged out in warmups when we were there. And it's like, this dude's big, very, very big. And it's, I think it's the moxie is what I want to see is like How the teammates feel about because the teammates always know like hey is this a good teammate or not the teammates will tell you Whether or not this is a guy in with Will Howard it was like after that Michigan loss With how much money is being paid to that roster which how many with how many?

Expectations there were on this particular team. Jeremiah Smith is, you know, best player in football. There could have been a lot of people that turned on this guy. Will, especially with what happened at the end of the Oregon game earlier in the year, whenever you know he ran and the clock ran out and everybody's like, this is the dumbest guy of all time. A lot of those teammates could have said, it's this guy's fault that we're losing this season and this might be our final season or we're going all in.

And instead, he had a relationship with all of his teammates. He had a handshakes with all of his teammates. It was like, they loved them. And then what we watch him do, I mean, that was what? Negative 10 degrees or whatever it was in that particular time there. What we watched him do up close and personal, those two balls, we're literally standing right there.

It's like, this guy's a baller. I think he's- Great, isn't it? So like you have the experience with game day. And then of course, when you guys are doing those simulcasts, you get to be there. It's like this guy's a baller. I think it's great. Isn't it? So like you have the experience with game day. And then of course, when you guys are doing those simulcasts, you get to be there. But for years, I was a sideline reporter and what you see on the sidelines is I get two hits a game and I'm like this guy's ankles hurt and this coach yelled at this

player. But what you don't get is that I'm there three hours before kickoff talking to the coaches. I'm there three hours before kickoff watching how to the coaches. I'm there three hours before a kickoff, watching how the quarterback interacts. And for these draft pundits, a lot of them see stats, they see combine, but the coaches don't look at it necessarily that way. The coaches say, oh, well, I actually have a scout who was at the game when Oregon State played against,

you know, Stanford two years ago, and this guy in pregame did something. that's why it's the total package. You can't just do evaluations based on film and by combine. There's all the intangible stuff. And I think you guys being onsite, as I like to call it, like to touch the grass a little bit, get in there, see it. You can kind of navigate and you'll know, you'll know which guys are the goobers too.

Like you can see that also, like, oh, that guy stinks. Like, I don't want that guy on my team. And the teams know, you'll know which guys are the goobers too. Like you can see that also. Like, oh, that guy stinks. Like I don't want that guy on my team. And the teams know that as well. Yeah. I had a chance to do that Thursday night football, uh, Remy operation with ESPN four or five years ago, six or whatever it was. Six years ago, maybe seven. Twenty-nine.

Twenty-nineteen. Twenty-nine years. So six years ago, Molly McGrath was the sideline reporter. You know, inside the reporters, like to your point, only see him like two, three times a game. You hear him drop in and everything. But the amount of like info that she reporters, like to your point, only see them like two, three times a game. You hear them drop in and everything. But the amount of like info that she was sending up to the booth, like at all times, it was like,

oh, the sideline reporters are like, they're your eyes. Like they're literally the eyes down inside. Like, hey, just a heads up, blah, blah, blah, just happened. And it's like, all of a sudden that becomes like, ah, need a camera on this, need to do this. It's like, and you're really in it. Like you're in the middle. Coaches talking shit to you.

Yeah. Do you want to touch me? Yeah. Exactly. Coach Fry. I did a, I did a Bill's Dolphins game a couple years ago, Saturday night game. It was cold.

Josh Allen came back and like beat two up, but I got like a snowball thrown at me in Buffalo. And then like, then like everyone was like looking at me. I'm like, let's go, I'm on the field. Let's roll. Let's go You're actually in the action and to that Buffalo fan who threw a snowball at me. I'm on ESPN now, okay, so Yeah, great throw great throw you had to be pretty far away to hit me. I was on the side there But with that being said, I'm uh I'm an Emmy award-winning home

Emmy award-winner brother and yeah strikes Emmy award winner brother and Hopefully there's more that came from all right. We got some more questions Obviously about everything happening around the NFL world con man's got one for you Yeah, sure eggs Jed York came out and basically said hey midseason 2024 We all decided you know we're gonna give Brock birdie a few more shekels after underpaying him for so long And now it feels like his contract is looming before the start of next year Are you hearing anything as far as numbers go? Do you think he'll be a 50 plus million year or million dollars per year guy or do you think he might be in the the 40s range so that Sam

Frank can continue to build around him and have one of the best rosters in football It's really interesting because the gravy train was going there for a while and they against maybe better judgment in their hearts were like, all right, we'll pay Debo this number, we'll pay Brandon Iute this number. We're all in and this is the year we're gonna be all in. The window is now and we got Brock on this rookie quarterback, seventh round pick salary and then it all came undone. So someone in the league made a comparison to what's going on in the U S government right now. And it's

like, all right, we got to just stop the bleeding and we're going to analyze everything. And then like, don't go there yet. Oh, they're AI. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. Got it. Did Bertie, did Bertie miss the boat on when the Niners were wheeling and dealing, or are they saving all of their money or shekels as you call it to give it to him? I don't see Brock Purdy making north of $55 million. I don't see Brock Purdy being one of the top highest paid quarterbacks. It's going to be a discussion with his agent, him, and what does he want? What does he need?

And then you never want to take a hometown discount, but you also realize that, you know, your Brock Purdy is 50 million the right number, is 48 not the right number, is 45 the right number, can 40 be the right number? So curious to see where it goes out here, but obviously they want to sign Brock Purdy. That's been John Lynch's stance forever. Kyle Strong and his agent met with the team at the combine.

Like these are open conversations. But I don't think this is the Justin Herbert deal or the Trevor Lawrence deal or it's well every other young quarterback got paid. We got to pay them the Niners. It's almost like the buck stops here. Let's be fiscally smart right now because we might have made some errors in the past. I know you won 55. But quick question. 55. Not bad 48. Same right? Basically. How about 44 then 44 and 48 basically the But, quick question, 55 not bad, 48 same right, basically?

How about 44 then, 44 and 48 basically the same. We get you right there, 40, think about what we can do. Okay, with that extra 15. The way you wield and deal and negotiate it right there is exactly the sound a team would have for a player. For Brock Purdy, it is an interesting situation. Because as Connor would say, the Sheckles have been pretty low

Well, you know because he was the last pick of the draft So he has had a very low NFL contract and you know You want to talk about Doge in the government San Francisco's government takes a good amount of said As Connor would say Sheckles, okay out of the contract to you know Give back to the city and to the state and to the country, right? That's where it all goes. And then that has been a pretty big amount. So if you go from making the least possible, basically, for a game. The least possible that you could as a draft pick.

The least possible. As a starting quarterback by far, but just as a player that is drafted as well So what a 45 million dollar a year be welcome because it was like I was just making 900,000 bucks last year. So like Yeah, every ex player in every NFL PA representative and every agent is like Brock. Don't you even think about some? Oh, no, that is what they're gonna be saying He's in a bad position Leverage wise not because his draft position but because they still own his rights for what the next three years if they want to they Won't play hard. Yeah, if they want Franchise a couple times and still wait another year to pay him

So he is in a bad situation there, but you don't take less than 50, you know, you He deserves, you know, especially with the salary cap going up at least what Trevor Lawrence is getting Jordan love what has he proved in comparison to what Brock Purdy has done in the league so far so I think Brock you know he deserves around that 55 at least Josh Allen not not breaking that 55 mark not getting up to that I think that kind of suppressed the market a little bit for the quarterback salary cap jumping up though. Brock Purdy deserves 55. But we'll see how it plays out with the leverage that Niners have.

Good luck Purdy. Good luck Purdy. Good luck to the Niners. I mean, I saw Lynch over a lighter for a cigar diner with Jay Glazer. Was it a cigar? They smoking weed diner? I don't know.

I don't know. I've seen, I look around that circle. I see a couple of Cigs guys in there. I got medical. Oh, you're seeing some six People are packing six diner Braves was in that circle, but you know, I saw Liam Cohn and I know when I see one and I know Fraze is double cigarettes

To six three thirty four patches three thirty twelve thirty seven 1237 Eastern right now. Probably an hour ago. An hour ago. You're right I guess there was a good brunch. Probably when someone came up and was like we need you to ban the tush push Mike and he was like all right I'm sick of this. What did he say actually? We're not gonna let Lamar Jackson run anymore? Just because nobody can stop it we're gonna just start banning stuff? No. Think about the conversation in that room about the tush push from the Meathead football guys, for instance, who might have had cigarettes in his mouth might have good, not just unlit six, both of them lit, you know, there's a chance

at a cigar in the middle, there's a chance he's three piece in that triple stack and AC. We're not playing football anymore. And then you got somebody on the other side. You've got Mike McDaniel and sunglasses and a Gucci belt We're not playing football anymore. And then you guys, somebody on the other side. You've got Mike McDaniel in sunglasses and a Gucci belt being like. We are trying to play football. Actually, if you think about it,

like if I need to make a call, we turn it out into the baby. I assume that's what that is afterwards, that you know, Glaze is setting up. They're gonna have, he's gonna get everyone and get three drinks in them. And then he's gonna be like, all right boys, 16 on 16, non-tush push non touch push touch push you guys are gonna beat the fucking shit out of each other and whoever wins

That's that's what we're gonna vote on He's like I got guy Fieri here still on is here Compliments because this could be real. Yeah, I love it. What we are saying right now could be real. Also, in my algo, more than I would, you know, every once in a while I've got to have a nice chat with the algo.

You've got to go to the search bar and be like, hey. Don't do it, Pat. No, you've got to have a good conversation with your algorithm. Those group MMA fights have been showing up a little bit more. So awesome. What? have you seen that? I have not. Oh, great.

I know. It's great. No, like six on six. In a cage. In a cage. In a cage. Yeah, they're in a cage. And it once was out.

It's now six on five. Yeah. And then four on one. Yeah, you see some of these. You see some of these. What country? I'd assume it's Russia. Yeah, you see some of these you see some of these What country I'd assume it's Russia and not here Easter yeah, so Eastern block. Yeah It's it's it have you seen the one where they're actual like using a weapon swords. Yeah, the ones with like old

They're like yeah Yeah, the whole thing armor They're not speaking our language and I'm not sure we would be welcomed at the event, but it does seem like something that would be electrifying and maybe Jay is setting it up tonight. 16 on 16, put the cage up around the pool. Maybe it is just one big pool basketball game. Dan Quinn with that backwards. You know, MC DC coming nerd, you know. The whole thing, I mean there's a chance. Drowned in Mike McDaniel. All right, let's get back.

None of this is gonna happen, maybe. It should. You know, none of the way we- Yeah, we don't know. Zach Taylor from deep, just money, like sorry. Zach Taylor sitting on the side of the pool, yeah. Getting a pass, gotta make that. You missed your one opportunity there, you're getting-

Get done, yeah. Andy Reid down low getting bored. Oh my God. He's kidding me with a t-shirt on in the pool. His t-shirt just says big walrus on it. Yeah, yeah, Andy Reed down low getting bored. Oh my god T-shirt just as big walrus So many opportunities hey Jay make it happen down Jay glazer you either do it or you hate football Hope they're having a good time tone has a question for you shriggs. Yes, right You got you brought up Kirk cousins maybe tied to the Browns, you know He has a pass for you Shregs. Yeah Shregs you brought up Kirk Cousins maybe tied to the Browns you know he has a pass with Stefanski you said Rahim Morris kind of put put some chillers on that

but Arthur Blank said that he sat down with Kirk for an hour and took five pages of notes handed those off the football people said you do with those notes what you will but Bree said Blank definitely did not close the door on a trade if it's if it do you think it might be the Browns and if it's not the Browns and let's say Aaron doesn't sign with the Steelers, do you think Kirk Cousins has a chance to play with the Steelers or do you think the Browns is potentially the only place that Kirk could go right now and be a starter potentially?

Look, the Browns thing makes a lot of sense for two big reasons. One, there's a gaping hole at quarterback. I mean, Pickett could hold the fort, but he's not your only option. And then two, Stefanski and Cousins have a really good personal relationship. I don't know why Kirk Cousins was at Chipotle in Ohio over the weekend, but he was. That was confusing to me. But that also leads you to think, wait, what's going on here? Truth of the matter is, Pennix is the future in Atlanta. They're paying Cousins a boatload. Can they figure something out contract wise? And is it really logical to think that Kirk Cousins, who signed on to the Atlanta Falcons to be the

starter of the Atlanta Falcons, is thrilled to be the backup next year and to be grooming Michael Pennex for a team that didn't even make the playoffs this season? At least in Cleveland, he goes to a quarterback's coach and a whisper that he's had, he's got a relationship, a fan base that would be thrilled to have him, and he's an upgrade and he's had. He's got a relationship, a fan base that would be thrilled to have him. And he's an upgrade and he's the quarterback one. It makes sense. Of course, the timing, they'd have to wait to be able to do this. But Myles Garrett, which Pat, I was very vocal about on my last home,

how we wasted an entire Super Bowl week listening to Myles Garrett talk about wanting to play for a Super Bowl champion. And you go on radio row and speak to anybody with a microphone And how all he wants to do is is raise a Lombardi and then two weeks later get 40 million and sign And say I want to be in Cleveland actually Yeah, a lot of Barrett did say that he knows of a planet quarterback and he's comfortable with that plan I can't imagine it's with a rookie quarterback or it's i'm thrilled to go to war with Kenny Pickett Well, can't make it Super Bowl champion last guy touch ball in the Super Bowl with a rookie quarterback or it's I'm thrilled to go to war with Kenny Pickett.

Okay. Thank you. Super Bowl champion. Last guy touched ball in the Superbowl. I think miles would be, I don't want to speak for miles, but I think should door Sanders or Kurt Cousins, which would be, which one would you be more comfortable with? I think if I'm out, I don't know if either one's the answer right away. Well, no, he, he decided though though 40 million was enough this way his thought

He's there for another what four years three four years respect. I mean top of the dress Kirk Kirk and Carter though to Watch Kirk Cousins play football Tripled Abdul Carter on the other side as well, D-Bud. I'm with you. Kirk got paid 170 last offseason. Picking up what you're putting down. We watched it.

Kirk was hot. He was hot coming in, coming off the Achilles. I'll tell you this. Kirk wasn't against the Raiders, and I think it was Desmond Ritter under center. It was the worst performance I'd ever seen from a quarterback in a game. And I said, that guy looks like a shell of what he once was and it came out afterwards the shoulder was all busted up Yeah, how much money do they spend on quarterbacks if they trade for Kirk Cousins and are paying to Shawn Watson? Well, that's been 37 right?

It's 27 this year then 10 million guaranteed next year because they did that thing what a week ago or whatever and kept him on the roster so that's an extra 37 million so should air standards is the number two overall pick is Can't the Falcons salary in the trade yes they could definitely pick up some of it right just like the Broncos did for the Pittsburgh Steelers so I mean I guess that could be a part of the trade but you'd have to give up what to yeah exactly why would you give or what like a two picks not the number two overall I think this might be one of those where it's more like Russell and in Seattle and Denver where you're it's it's a much more even trade as far as who's getting

I don't think the Falcons have any like to stand on demand a bunch of draft picks for Kirk cousins, so Atlanta would have to pay it and they wouldn't get a lot of Yeah, I think I think this is more let's cut our losses if they're doing that and let's give Kirk a chance to start somewhere Okay, so Atlanta pays the bills then so then it is as. Then it is a cheaper contract because whenever you say Shador Kirk, it's like Shador you're getting a very cheap, not very cheap, but you get it. A rookie contract quarterback, which is what the San Francisco 49ers have with Brock Burde. Now much different as the number two overall pick as opposed to Mr. Irrelevant, but still the rookie contract at quarterback is a massive ordeal.

Especially if you got debts all over the place, which... What do you do though? What do you do? I mean, if you're the Browns and you don't love Shador Sanders and you have the number two overall pick and this kid Carter is what you think he is and is a game changer, do you sacrifice having that guy for 10 years to draft a quarterback that might have been the third or fourth quarterback taken in the draft last year. And just because it's the year of the draft that we have the number of two pick, like it's this constant question of shopping when you're hungry and you don't want to go to the grocery store when you're starving because you end up buying

all sorts of stuff that you don't want the next day. Shador Sanders, if you love them, take them and you think he's the future. That's great. And Myles Garrett might know that he's the guy and they feel great, then that's okay. But if he doesn't blow your way and you're Stefanski and you know quarterbacks and you're Andrew Berry and you know quarterbacks and you're like, do you just take them to take them? So you say, we got a quarterback, that's tough.

Yeah, you only go shopping when you're starving and stoned, you know, but right now they're in a situation where who? They've been starving and stoned for a long time. Well, especially now they're more starving starving them stone than they've ever been They're paying a lot of money. I'm not having them coming out and being like it That one's on me, but hand out me and me and D We certainly thought it was a case it has been an organizational failure from top to bottom and that starts with us That's what we all assumed why you know, Andrew Barry and Stefan's is still there is because we feel like a decision was made above them that has kind of handicapped them mightily. If it is

Kirk Cousins going up there and they're able to go on a run, you know what? The dog poundians deserve it. Yeah. Yens deserve it over there. Last question quickly here, Schrags. We can't thank you enough. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Schrags. We heard Ben Johnson, who everyone knows, he's a wonder kid. He's the next guy, but he basically came out and said, hey, listen, EPA is more important than turnovers. And although last year Caleb Williams, I think, had the second lowest EPA for quarterbacks in the NFL. Is this something everyone knew?

Is he like a big statistical guru and like analytics and all that kind of stuff? Because going in, I thought he was just straight ball Xs and Os. And now I'm all of a sudden kind of getting Brandon Staley vibes out of Ben. What's the? That's a Packers fan obviously. I've gotten to know Ben pretty well and you know I think there's this thought that either A he's just like jorking X's and O's sit in the bottom of a basement and just draw out plays like I'm a mad scientist. Or there's this other feeling of it, like that he's this, you know, I'm going to shove it in the face of the Packers because I'm going to be that guy.

Truth of the matter is he's the total package. He's the guy who I think comes in here and values that stuff and might have said those stats, but I promise you, he's not looking at Caleb Williams because of something called EPA and what excites him. He's looking at Caleb Williams because he sees completely untapped potential, an awesome arm, a good kid, and a guy that they think they finally

built an offensive line for this season with Jonah Jackson and Tooney and we can go through it all, but they're like, this gives him a shot. But he but he had options as we know he could have gone anywhere. Yes the money was good he also really wanted to work with Caleb Williams so I don't think it's because of turnover numbers or EPA I think that was him just playing to the wonks a little bit. Love that playing to the wonks a little bit up there in Chicago. EPA earned points added is a stat per play basically, where it's, did you help your team on this play or did you hurt your team?

Like your plus minus. Yeah, it's a plus minus for basketball. It's for football. Do you know who is the worst ever? Will Levis. If you're a little. Wait, what do you mean? Ever?

Last season? Maybe last season, I don't know. You see these points, I don't know how it can get much worse. You can see it. Ever. Will Levis. If you're a little... Wait, what do you mean? Ever? Last season? Maybe last season. I don't know. You see these points, I don't know how it can get much worse. You can see it. I'm telling you, there's some bad, bad, bad, bad, bad plays in the EPA. But who's the one judging?

You know, like that's the whole thing. And then the overall points, you have to play a certain amount of plays because then they just get added onto. Like earned point average per play, some people are like negative point one seven or point one four but if you don't play as many plays you won't be like negative 69 or negative 94 or whatever it is you'll just be negative 48 so whatever the case is this that seemingly says do you stay on schedule and do do you hurt your team or do you help your team every single play it's a new one

I'm no I'm no meathead Pat but I think you know this show is gonna be higher rated than the Le one. I'm no meathead, Pat, but I think, you know, this show is going to be higher rated than the LeBron episode last week, because I'm on it. But I think the ratings just tanked when you said the word EPA and started going through it. And that's the problem. Viewers don't want to hear it. And like we as media are trying to grasp it, but it is valued there in those buildings.

And there are teams of analytical people putting these numbers together. I'm just not hip to the stats. To me, it's, I want to see the guys throw and I it on see how they interact with the teammates. What was the other one? There's another one expected Over Expectations yeah, there is we get sent these over because hembo obviously will send us some status and every once in a while There will just be this fucking stat. That is not real DVOA. You know, and it's like, all right, I understand.

Here's a fake stat. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. Hembo, I appreciate you, but I don't know how that one applies, but smart people do, which you are one of them. And we can't thank you enough for joining us and congrats on the ESPN deal, brother. I'm so excited, really happy to be here.

And one of the primary reasons I sought out ESPN as a home is because of the relationship reasons I sought out ESPN as a home is because of the relationship you guys and your team has had with me and the ability to work together. It's really cool, Pep. Shreger, we love you, man. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Shreger.

Hey! Shregg's been good to us. Oh yeah, and he knows. Yeah, he's, yeah, he's, like, I talked about coming out of the Emory College, I think it's like the most expensive school and like yeah very hard to get I think it's like I Think it's all bazillionaires. What's their specialty?

Money, I think just networking. I think but probably business 11% acceptance rate, which is low Yeah, the other people who know came out here. I learned about our shrinks was on the show He said I went to a school in Atlanta is like a small school in Atlanta And you would have thought you had heard of all the schools in Atlanta because it's Atlanta show, he said, I went to a school in Atlanta, it was like a small school in Atlanta, and you would've thought you would've heard of all the schools in Atlanta, because it's Atlanta. And then he said, Emory never heard of it, we looked it up, it's like one of the most expensive schools

in the history of schools, I think. I think like, not only acceptance rate, but I think also like, there has to be a massive bank account behind that one as well. So I'd assume the networking pretty good down there. You know, those schools have a lot of these things happening at all times, just like, you know, camps or some of these high schools, these private academies or anything like that.

But he decided to take the route of like, I'm going to the Senior Bowl in Mobile, you know, I'm sleeping on shitty mattresses and motels to try to meet people. And he met a bunch of low level guys, basically coaches and scouts. And through the years, they've all kind of moved up as he has moved up. And it like Shregs is plugged. That's why his

mock draft is always the closest and he's a good get for ESPN. Oh yeah. I personally believe that good morning football run he had over there was great they won an Emmy obviously they did their thing I'm pumped he's with ESPN joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man from MLB Network from Pittsburgh one of the greatest yinzers of all time. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the Mayor's Office, Sean Casey. Yeah, Mayor! What's up, fellas?

Mayor, it is great to see you. We have a hard out in five minutes, which is unfair for the way that you operate, but we are appreciative of you being able to join us on such quick notice you Former hitting coach for the Yankees the guy who was able to get good one on a ball You know that is what your baseball Resume would say about how you played these torpedo bats are taking the world by storm obviously that's jazz chism He has done a fantastic job with these the Yankees have hit a bunch of bombs. I believe it was Ellie Dayla Cruz. Ellie Dayla Cruz last night has four hits, two bombs in his first night using this torpedo bat. So a couple quick questions. How come this hasn't always been the bat of choice? Why haven't we always had it? And is this thing going to get banned or promoted in the MLB, do you think?

Well, it's definitely going to get promoted. I mean, it goes through all the specs. It's totally legal. I think the biggest thing they did here, because they have, there's a bat performance lab that Marucci and Victus bats have down in Baton Rouge. And I think a lot of the players go have been going there for years. And if you go back to Paul Goldschmidt in 2022 on the bottom of his bat like he had a bat like this and at the bottom of his bat was like a

Puck shape and everyone's like oh man What's going on Goldschmidt's bat and what they found is when he was swinging he liked a little more weight at the bottom It felt better, you know going through the zone with the metrics Well what they found with the torpedo bat is all they did was for a guy like Anthony Volpe. So the sweet part of the bat is like right here, right? The barrel. What they did was a lot of what they found was Volpe hits a lot of his contact more towards

the label, right? More down here towards the label. So what they did was they took the barrel and they moved it down a little bit more and made this end part thinner. That's why it starts to look like a torpedo bat. So what they're saying is, okay, if he hits it on the barrel and when he misses, he misses more towards the label or he's hitting it towards the label more.

Why are we not putting that sweet spot of the bat, the density of the bat, why are we moving it down on the bat? That's all they're doing. Then they have to figure out how to weigh it just right too because at the end of the day, why aren't we moving it down on the bat? That's all they're doing. Then they have to figure out how to weigh it just right too, because at the end of the day, for me, I like the 34 inch, 32 ounce bat. If I was gonna move those metrics, I wanted to make sure it still felt good in my hand. So these are totally legal, Pat.

And at the end of the day too, the old saying, it's the Indian, not the arrow. As far as at the end, if the arrow, as far as like at the end, if the Yankees went out and weren't good, they'd be like, oh, these torpedo bats have to go. But the fact that they came out and hit so many pumps out the gate, you know, next to you know, it was like, what's up with these torpedo bats?

So you still gotta have guys like Aaron Judge and Jazz Chisholm and Anthony Volpe and Austin Wells swinging the bat for them to be good. Yeah, Aaron Judge not using it, but I assume there comes a time in the playoffs it gets cold again. Maybe he picks up a torpedo and tries to you know put the hat on inside out a little bit of a rally. I have a Marucci bat here as well. Will all bat companies be able to do this and will it be specific for the batter? For instance, I watched Pete Rose I think on Fox with I think Alex Rodriguez was there and Frank Thomas

yeah maybe Ortiz yes something I forget who was there but they asked him about like if he was having an off day and he was like well if I was fast on the ball I would just move up in a batter's box if I was getting jammed I'd move back in a batter's box if I was slow I'dmed, I'd move back in a batter's box. If I was slow, I'd move to the back end of it. So with you saying like, Hey, this guy whenever he gets jammed is up here. So they just move the density there. They'll be doing that for everybody then basically is that kind of the next step of this and how many companies can actually do this? Everybody? I think any company could do it. Like I said, Marucci and Victus

have that bat performance lab in Baton Rouge where they fly guys in in the offseason and they say, hey listen, you're swinging the bat for whatever reason, however your bat comes through the zone, you're hitting 65% of the balls towards the label. Let's make a bat for you that moves that barrel down there to optimize when you hit the ball. So for a guy that hits the ball on a standard bat on the barrel a lot Which like an Aaron judge a lot of guys most guys do They're not necessarily gonna need the torpedo bat But at the end of the day if you're moving the barrel down on that bat what you're doing is you're exposing the end A lot of guys don't hit the ball off the end. So you're giving yourself a sweeter, you know

More more barrel to hit the ball on so I I just think some it'll be good for some guys. And I've also heard, um, there's been eight, eight or so teams that have ordered these torpedo bats going into even last year, some guys don't like them. Some guys are hitting with them. Like, I don't like this and some guys like them. So, you know, at the end of the day, it's a preference. It's almost like really quick packs, almost like golf clubs for golf clubs golf clubs you go you go to get fitted for golf clubs right they're like oh hey use this driver you're better with a stiffer shaft you're

better with this and all of a sudden you're like okay that makes sense for me that's what's starting to happening with bats in the big leagues where they're like okay why are we all swinging the same bats that we've swung for so long let's try and get an advantage and figure out how we can make a bat that fits your needs better. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, that's the mayor. Thank you for the hitting clinic.

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I hope so because it's a lot more fun even if you're not just watching one of your teams like you're going to watch highlights of any of these games and like last night, you know, it's just like LA Dela Cruz is a stud but if we can have more guys just on these days of the week where there's nothing really else to talk about other than baseball games and we're getting guys hitting two homers and having four hits and having seven RBIs like that's good for the game as a whole. I hope this whole thing doesn't kind of just slow to a stop in the torpedo bats in like a couple weeks or in a month like once we get later into the season it kind of just becomes like a non-starter and guys aren't doing this

Because it was kind of like what we talked about with spider tack a couple years ago, which They got they got rid of it, but it was Bring back spider to let the spider attack come back and let them do their best against The batters absolute best bat I mean the fact that these are legal bats and they're just now specifying and the mayor, whenever he was chit chatting at the end of the hour and then through the end of the hour

into the break a little bit, he was talking about how, you know, Marucci, the Paisans down there, the bat makers, they basically have you fly in, they have you hit some, and it's like, hey, here's where you hit the ball more often than not. Let's move the density of the bat to there to kind of at least help you get a little bit better wood every once in a while helps your miss be better.

Just like with golf clubs, with the wedges, where they align them, where they put weight at, hey, you're seemingly do this. Let's put a little weight on the tip or on the toe that might be able to bring it back. It's like, I just assumed they'd been doing this forever, but I guess the only difference between everybody was just the weight and Thickness of it. This is the next level This is technology kind of making a sport better and I think they should let the pitchers have spider-attack Let these baseball batters have their best bats and let's go have them go at it and even bring those juice balls back

Yeah That's what I kind of figured that pitchers would start bitching about this because from I would assume from their perspective Like it is kind of unfair like what you're trying to do when you're pitch like you're trying to miss barrels So it's like if these guys are moving the bat around and it's like hey, I'm trying to jam this guy But now the barrel is essentially like up near more near the handle It's like you're trying to do what like you're setting out to do, but somehow it's like this. They've moved the bat around. So this guy is still hitting it right on the sweet spot. So that's why I think pitchers be like, well, you know, now we have a massive

disadvantage. Like they said, we had a huge advantage with the spider tack because all these guys could throw nasty breaking stuff and like the spin rates were ridiculous. Like, so I think they should kind of bring that back to eating it out a little bit because that, that's going to be their biggest point of contention. It's like, I'm jamming this guy and he's still hitting a three run homer. That's bullshit. You bring back the juice balls and because you have the juice balls are a little bit more slick.

So you got to give the pyre or the pitchers their spider attack. Okay. So now we don't have to do any more of the stupid checks either. Okay. They got their spider attack. We don't have to look amateur doing the whole, okay. Let me see your hands, hat, cheeks. Yeah, the whole thing. Where you hiding? You hiding behind your knee?

Where, where does it take shoes off? You know what you're doing down there in your ankle. That's a weird thing to happen. And it started happening because there's too much spider tack. Give them spider tack. Give the juice ball. Let the torpedo bats happen.

And let's have some baseball, Darius Butler. I love it. And for, it just makes too much sense So I feel like somehow some way I'll be real messing up They'll mess it makes too much sense for baseball because we will we will more of us will watch casually especially this time of year This is what we need and I'm looking at these Della Cruz highlights in I'm pissed off. It's not enough not enough asses in the seats for Superstar a stud like that doing the shit that he does I mean you gotta get out there watch this guy play I know opening day is a big thing out for for

the Reds right yeah a bunch of teams but especially for them like come on look at those seats man there's a lot of games you know they're not gonna be able to sell out everywhere unless you're in one of those markets that has millions of humans living there and the team is historic it's like Pittsburgh the PNC that place is beautiful it is gorgeous but if that thing is getting 30% capacity 40% capacity that's a huge middle of the week potential you were here last night. Skates will fill up. Okay. But there's, uh, there's 140 other games. Yeah. Did you go outside last night here? Uh, no, because it was 40 in rain since he's right down the road. I mean, if I got a chance to watch him play ball, he may give it to the ball. Yeah. Or you may

pick tomorrow. Joining us now. Lazy. What's that mean? It's like, well, it's gonna be 40 right now. You know what a hundred and sixty one more of these things So maybe we'll go tomorrow and maybe this something will be I'll be nice easy. Come easy. Go. Let's go to a Cincinnati Reds fan He wasn't there. I didn't see him there to watch the show ladies and gentlemen college football national champion Super Bowl champion Ryder crap winner AJ Hawk Lot of people dress like seats at the Reds game in my right Hey, I give credit to the people that actually went to that game. I went back and sat outside at a lacrosse game. My daughter's lacrosse and it was full-blown winter conditions like

Blowing 40 miles an hour 40 degrees. It was brutal. Yeah, which does make it difficult to hit and we've talked more about baseball I think and we've ever done in the past I'm genuinely interested I am especially with this torpedo bat thing like if they're able to make this big of an innovation to make the game much better while still being within the rules you know because everything else they've had to like kind of critique the rules stealing signs always been legal hitting trash cans too far yeah can't do that. Okay. Then like steroids. Okay. We're not really testing, but can't do that.

And then all of a sudden everybody is on it and everybody's awesome. And baseball is more popular than it's ever been. And it's like, well, now we're going to test for everything. It's like, there's always unwritten rules in baseball. And then something happens and then they have to kind of fix it. And this one, not even on Red Bull, they're like,

no, this is within the rule book, they're doing it all right. And to D-Butt's point, we automatically assume that baseball will want to make their sport worse. You know, we automatically assume that they'll be like, this all makes too much sense, they're going to try to ban this. So it seems like it's being welcomed, more teams are wanting them. And if we get those juice balls and a spider tack back, with Shohei Otani in the business, more teams are wanting them. And if we get those juice balls and a spider tack back

with Shohei Otani in the business, Juan Soto going over to the Mets making the amount of money he has. Obviously a once in a generation guy like Paul Skeens. It's like, is baseball kind of, is baseball interesting? Can we, are we going to pay attention? I think so, I think so. Yeah, I think this has legs.

I think it has legs, but I want to know how much power the pitchers have when it comes to baseball, because I would imagine every pitcher, I don't know, I shouldn I think this has legs I think it has legs but I want to know how much power the pitchers have when it comes to baseball because I would imagine Every pitcher I don't know I shouldn't say every pitcher but don't you think the majority of them are thinking? Hey, you guys are messing with the girth on these bats. You can't do this These guys are hitting two and three homers every game Yeah, and you know just like how defense is kind of treated in the NFL which goes great the one rule change I was being pitched to potentially assist defenders, that thing is not getting passed.

No, no change. Yeah, that thing was not getting passed. So we don't know if it's the same way in baseball with pitchers, but the new rules did pass and there's nothing that is making defense easier or better, but we do know that there has been some changes made. Replay assist gonna be better for all parties, we assume. Yes. Especially as the people that are doing that are getting younger and more used to what they're looking at and better with the technology and quicker and able to kind of assist,

which we saw happen last year a lot, where a flag would be thrown, then a ref would get a message almost immediately and be like, oh, no, we're picking it up. We're moving along after a replay assist or further assist or whatever they would say. Love that. Touchback set at 35, we're going to get more returns.

Okay, people aren't going gonna want to give that up Love that regular season overtime rules being the same as the playoff overtime rules as opposed to being going in forever It does have a 10-minute limit and then the tush push has been tush pushed back to May For their next date and gathering. What are your thoughts on it all AJ? What's your big takeaway from what has been voted by the competition committee down in beautiful Florida? I think there's a little bit of what we expected. Obviously the defensive holding and illegal contact.

I did not expect that to get through on this one. I thought the moving the kickoff touchback to the 35. I thought it was maybe 50-50 chance just because I feel like hasn't the NFL promoted as a big success like the new weird looking kickoff to where we have what 1800 more plays or whatever they call it and we have a lot less concussions however you test that yeah and I think the NFL was very pumped with it and I think at the end of the season is really when they were flexing you know they're like this is exactly what

we wanted we wanted it to be a dynamic play being added back in and Turpin obviously goes bananas. I think he signed a deal too, congrats to him. Obviously he comes from the XFL and then he has a big moment like that with a new return. I think they're even trying to make it easier for returns. I think it's like six, three, two now, as opposed to seven, whatever it was in the past.

So I think they're adding another person. And I think allegedly Roger Goodell was pushing for it to go to the 35 because I had an opportunity to talk to Commissioner Goodell about the new kickoff rules. I think it was about midway through the season I think midway through the year and he was pumped with it he thought the opportunities were great and then I immediately go got to move that to 35 that kind of scare more people and his immediate thought and his response was a lot of people have said that in the special teams world so Kind of an NFL thing to test it see how it works

Are we gonna keep it are we gonna critique it a little bit or are we gonna get rid of this? They've we've seen things get tested and then tossed after one season now I think they saw it they saw the upside of it Especially at the end of the year last year when there's more returns and they want to create more I love it. It's good for special teams. It is great for special teams coaches. It's great for special teams players I'm happy to say or I'm happy to see that they think they got it right is what I'm thinking AJ from watching them kind of adjust this rule. Yeah, and it is going to absolutely, you know force more returns and we love seeing returns It's something that people I guess take for granted granted it's like an afterthought when you're like a casual football fan but if you're there and you're you're on the staff or

you're on the team you know absolutely how big of a deal these things are. Yeah if you take one of the crib you're probably gonna win the game yeah like that is just how it goes if you get one out to the 50 the offense is jogging on the field I mean that's a whole. Force the fumble Imagine forcing a fumble if you're covering the first kickoff of a game and you force a fumble or something, get that thing. Oh, huge. Game over.

Yeah. You know, you used to be able to set the tone with the, you know. Yeah. Locking arms and big moves. Fuck it. That was, that was. Yep.

I'm a wedge. I'm a wedge buster. Kamikaze. What is your job? Crazy. I bust wedges. What are wedges? Well, it's three professional athletes linking their arms together with a returner behind them.

And they are running full speed at me. I am running full speed at them. You gotta put a descript on those three athletes too. You're right. Linebackers, defensive linemen, potentially an offensive lineman. Could be anywhere from 240 pounds to 340 pounds. And they can run, they can move.

They will be moving in your direction. And they are trying to bust you. So you're trying to bust them. They're trying to bust you. It's a game of Red Rover, but really you're outnumbered every time. And you're just gonna do one of these. And if you can take up two, even better. So you just just do what you got that's what the kickoff used to be and

you could set a tone Colts had a guy I think he was a defensive lineman he was before I got there crack four helmets or something like that oh crack four helmets that is a valuable player to that squad because the coach can show film with that dude every week too. I can't you see you talk about laying on the line. Check this guy out. He's half brain dead already. Guys take pride in their job is what I'm saying. Yeah, I think he cracked three or four helmets or whatever.

And they've they'll show it on NFL films as one of the highlights like he was just I think he was a five. So he's right down the middle of the field to the ball. And it was it was go time. So he's right down the middle of the field to the ball and it was it was go time and he exploded through people's heads and I've seen the clips. I wish that guy was on my team. It was they should you should see what it was like when I forget His name I wish I knew his things like was last they read. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I'm in 95 maybe big helmet. Yes I'm in 95 maybe big helmet. Yes

So fast just so fast can't do that anymore now because everybody's lined up next to each other Which is why when the touchbacks happen these looked worse than the touchbacks of the old because people are just standing at the 30 Touchback. All right jog off the field Yeah, and now like I guess there was chatter about moving to kickoff back five yards the kicker back five yards Instead of moving, you know the touchback to the 35 you can move it back kickoff back to the 30 Which is what it used to be back in the day. I still think there'll be kickers that could get it out if they wanted to But that would certainly force some of the weaker leg to kickers To probably put up more balls that'll be returned. How do you feel though legitimately about the defensive thing not passing?

Do you think that's just forever now? Amen Not surprised at all and as the numbers continue to go up as quarterbacks into you to make money betting You know people want fantasy like all the things that you know are offensive in the league So you're not gonna make it tougher for the offense. I think that's why even the touch push, partly why that's kind of been tabled. But I had zero expectations for the defensive stuff to be patched, just like AJ.

It's just not happening. The other one that's interesting is the seeding, because the NFL isn't the only sport talking about the changing of the seeding. I know the NBA, they're already talking about just doing one through 16, eight teams on the East,. I know the NBA, they're already talking about just doing one through 16, eight teams on the East, eight teams on the West, and then completely reseating them

and doing just a one through 16 NBA playoffs. So this one feels like it could actually happen where instead of making those teams that do go 14 and three go on the road, that maybe they still get a home game. I'll tell you, I don't know. I don't know. Playoffs are so successful. You gotta remember end of day, like what are we we're getting like 60 million views? 50 million viewers for these playoff games. With the way the NFL operates,

that would be a drastic change with that move. Would it bring more viewers? Would it bring more fans? That's the question Oh, I maybe it does maybe it does because the games get better and like the people get rewarded in my head I'm not saying I'm against this at all at all I'm not saying I'm against it what I'm saying is the NFL very rarely will just make a drastic change to something Especially if it's having massive success, which the playoff numbers for football are it's having massive success, which the playoff numbers for football are absurd. I mean, the NFL numbers are banana. I heard Shreg say yesterday on his last episode of good morning football, how

much the owners love if you just win your division, you get home, you get a home playoff game, you get all those, you get all those ticket money, you get all those concessions, blah, blah, blah. And then you yesterday said it basically the same thing, but not from the owner's perspective, but more of a player's perspective is you you would win in the division means something and that's awesome whether whether you'd have the fifth best record in that conference or not when the division as someone like You where you we come from like a division that means something like you have ravages within the division I love like what that winning division means get the whole thing. Yeah hanging a banner. Yeah, you know, it means something Yeah, I mean summer. Yeah, I guess not every stadium has division championship banners

But you know, I mean they that you still get in you still get the hat you still get in the playoffs and like we Of course winning a division championship means something but like how do we talk about it on here? Like only one team is happy. So sure it definitely means something to the players in the ownership and everything like that Absolutely, and they're still going to the playoffs It just it feels as though having you know being in a division where there's only been one great team with the Bills Maybe that's why I feel this way But like when you are in these very difficult divisions the NFC North the AFC North like it does feel like hey Why you know if we win 12 games and you know, the Ravens or the Steelers win 13,

or the Patriots win 10 games, and the Ravens and the Steelers, excuse me, win 12 or 13 games, like even looking at that, it's like if I was a Ravens or Steelers fan, it's like, shit, I would want that home playoff. The Lions pitching this is strictly because week 18 game against the Vikings, they both have 13 or 14 wins

Whatever it was and not 13 wins and they were gonna have to go from seed one Which is permanent home field advantage throughout the playoffs to seed five, which is not even a home playoff game Lions win that game and they still are the ones making the pitch because I think they're saying that was bullshit for the Vikings You know like because if they would have lost that game they would have been like so We're the best team in the second best team in the entire league, and now we're a five seed, we gotta go on the road through the entirety of it all. That's a fascinating...

Just had their best regular season in franchise history, and they might have been a wild card team. I don't see a change in them. Me neither. They had to play, it was great for the NFL. They had to play, their guys, that was basically an extra playoff game we got from two of the was great for the NFL like they had to play their guys like that was basically extra playoff game We got from two of the best teams in the NFL with with like you said that heat for

Four spots in the playoffs on the line going from a one two or five. So I don't see it change It's just it's it's it's it's too big a part of the NFL and what the culture is in NFL Yeah, not saying it's not a good idea Yeah I'm saying it's not a good idea and thinking that it would work out, but it's like the way the NFL operates is they'll be like, so you're telling we pull up the numbers. How many did we get wild card weekend?

How many viewers did we have? Okay, how many upsets has there been in wild card weekend? How many teams have gone on a run? It's just, it feels like the people that are voting in the room wouldn't want to make that big of a uh a rattle to their baby i mean they're selling playoff games now directly to streaming platforms in the numbers in the amount of money they're getting is just gigantic so not saying they shouldn't change it but i don't think that one's ever going to get changed no and like with the mba it makes a little bit more sense because like

sometimes you see like well like the the western conference has 11 teams that should be in the playoffs and like the East is really bad. So like that makes sense. But typically in the NFL, it's, it's pretty evened out with how good the teams are in the AFC and the NFC. There might be one division. Like, you know, we talked about the NFC South the last couple of years. It's like, you know, whoever gets in here is kind of screwing over one of these teams. But it's, yeah. Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. AFC South is back.

Yeah. The AFC South too, but the Texans have been pretty solid, but very rarely is it like, Oh, the NFC has eight teams that have 10 wins and the AFC only has three teams that have 10 wins. And a couple of those should get in. Like it is typically pretty evenly balanced between the two divisions. Coming out of the league meetings. Also we we have new flex rules for Thursday night football. Tom Pelicero the era reported at the NFL owners pass a resolution allowing the lead to flex Sunday games to Thursday night with 21 days notice.

Need three weeks if you're going to cut off three days of my weekend. No team can do more than two short week games on Thursday night and there can be no more than two of these games flexed from Sunday to Thursday. I assume there's a certain restrict or two like past week seven or past week eight like they have with Sunday Night Football. They obviously did this last year one time I believe and now they're gonna be able to really do it another time and now they're shortening the amount of time from 28 days to 21 days for the notice to go on a short week.

I like any time these prime time games have the flexibility to move a shite game that we all see coming to a good game or a great game if it is available. There's always gonna be Cinderella teams that we don't know are gonna be good. So whenever the schedule makers piece together these prime time games and which week,

who is playing what, they have no idea that the Washington commanders might be the, one of the teams that everybody on earth will want to watch. Couple of years ago, the Cincinnati Bengals go from a four win team to a team that ends up going to the Superbowl. So they're not scheduled to be in a lot of prime time games before the season starts, but all of a sudden,

wait a minute, this team should be on prime time TV. I wish networks would pull the trigger more on flexing games. A lot of networks are scared to do it because they don't want to piss off any of the franchises, which are obviously all individual entities. They don't want to ruin any relationships. They don't want to piss off any fan bases either,

because if you say no, so like a New York team is scheduled for three straight prime time games. They suck. They're not good. We're forced to watch them. But a lot of networks are scared to tell their fan base, which is gigantic, even though their team stinks, that they're not worthy of being on prime time.

We're going elsewhere. So I think if it becomes much more common, networks will be much more comfortable making the decision to do it. So I like that they're trying to make it easier for prime time games to get better for all of us, AJ. Yeah, I liked that they're doing. I think they're going to continue to find creative ways to get all the best games like as we,

as the season goes in prime time. But think about how valuable these are when the whole, you know, schedule release comes out. That's a big deal. The NFL does a great job of making that a huge deal, but you sit there and you highlight how many prime time games each team has. So yeah, of course you don't want those

taken away from you, but you should also say, hey, if you're one of these terrible teams and you don't have any prime time games, you might get flexed into two prime time games if you take care of business early in the year. Especially with what the ratings are later in the year. Ratings are bigger at the end of the year, so you can earn your way into it.

So you're right. I think it does give the teams that are projected to be shite An opportunity, you know to earn their way into prime time And that's how prime time should be treated by the way when you're in these prime time games They're doing pieces and segments. They're showcasing your team your city You're building your players like prime time games matter Not just because people see the field, the play on the field, or get a chance to experience a fan base and everything like that,

but because they're telling the story of your team every single week in different ways. So whenever the Dallas Cowboys are on, you know, four straight, five straight weeks, I mean, how many different Dak Prescott interviews are we getting in there? How many different, you know, conversations about the Jones family in the stadium? Like, they highlight your franchise. So not having a prime time game sucks for your business. Oh yeah. Sucks for your team, sucks for your players,

sucks for your business, sucks for your city. It sucks for your fans that aren't in your city because they can't see shit, you know, unless they get NFL plus, which is a weapon obviously for people that are out of their market. But it's like, I hope they make flexing more common. I hope it becomes more common. And when the good games, the good teams aren't flexed, it sucks for the casual fan too,

who are just gonna turn on the prime time game. So I'm right there with you and speaking like that, like when that guy hurt last year, we still had however many Cowboys game. Danny Dimes was hurting New York, still had the Giants on every few weeks. So like a team like that guy hurt last year we still had however many Cowboys game Danny dimes hurt in New York still had the Giants on you know every few weeks So like a team like the Colts this year when Anthony Richard is on his MVP run Midway there we get exactly a couple Thursday night games and for the fans It's always great that we get these games on primetime, but even for the players

It sucks getting to that Thursday night game But once you get through it and you have that kind of mini by week you have that weekend off That's also awesome then the storytelling aspect of it when you can tell a relevant story That's unfolding in real time like Jayton Daniels and the commanders last year For example CJ Stroud the previous year, maybe Drake made next year You know, that's that's better for the fans better for the fan base. It ain't like you said for the organization, right? Maybe Yeah, most likely but is it still the situation where some of the networks can say no because you remember when the Ravens Commanders were the one o'clock game on CBS and then the Sunday night game was absolute shite and everyone was like, oh well This is an easy fix. Let's just move the commanders and the Ravens to Sunday night football

But CBS was able to say no, like do they still have? Yeah, can we change that rule? Yeah, like is that rule still in place? Because that's the biggest problem. Yeah, because who's Amazon going to be able to get it from? Bingo. It's like, oh, okay, so instead of this game, we're getting another shite game that is slated for four o'clock.

But- Because CBS and Fox have the one and four, right? Yeah. The daytime shows. They're the ones that have the the one in four right yeah, yeah the daytime Yes, they're the ones that have all the games like all the games are AFC one side NFC the other obviously and They kind of run that shit Fox NFC CBS AFC if you're not in primetime you're gonna be a one of those probably regionally depending upon where you're at So if they were to get a good game actually You know in one of those spots to be able to do

It and then Amazon who has no affiliation with them with either is like excuse me. Yeah, yeah, we're taking that There's no way they're gonna say is there a chance isn't it where each I thought I could be wrong I thought it was where Fox and CBS have the right to protect one game each week So if they do have let's just say like Ravens bangles They're gonna protect that one But if they're let's say the the Patriots are eight, no, and they're playing the Packers who are seven and oh, or in this situation, the sec, let's pretend it's the second best game of the week.

Amazon can take that one. They can only CBS and Fox, I think, can only protect one game. That's the problem is that like a lot of times there's only three good, like a lot of times, especially once we get to like week eight week 8 week 10 there aren't that many good games. Two games two good games on a Sunday is very good for us they're like a five six week period. And guess what one of them's on CBS and one of them's on Fox. Or NBC on Sunday night. Or yeah bingo so it's like even if in that situation like it really should be more so like hey the four the three prime time games

They get their pick because those are the games that no matter what we are going to watch we have to watch them We're watching and then on Sunday Sometimes there is that game that comes out of nowhere that wasn't supposed to be good and it turns out to be Incredible and that's on Sunday and that's a real treat It really is but those Monday Thursday and Sunday night games They have to be the best games of the week and on that note I'm I'm done with the way you guys are stacking these oh my god one in four o'clock Okay, we all have the opportunity for the quad box who is on YouTube TV

Okay, for those that aren't on to the streaming area yet at YouTube TV and I assume Hulu's gonna have this soon. Just we all we all doing it okay with the red zone channel we're doing it there is no reason for there to be eight in one and then like three in the other or whatever it is let's make sure we're making this conducive. Even it out. Let's make sure this is a good spot and is Scott Hansen up? Yes. Is that what I saw?

Who's who's doing it? I don't know that's a you can't just plug anybody in there I don't think after this year or I think he's up. Yeah, I believe he's like in contract negotiations right now They'll get that done. It feels like they I don't know Tony reality threw his hat in the ring said hey I'd be a dream job and Tony Around the horn excuse you. Yeah do I just wanted to make sure He's afraid of you know, you do good job. We're not we're not we're not putting Tony Tony would be I think his brain would be one that could do it and my thing with that red zone Operation there and everybody just talks about Scott not peeing for seven. Mm-hmm here Scott's got to keep up with

Yeah, ten storylines peeing for seven hours. Scott's gotta keep up with 10 storylines in seven hours. And he's got somebody literally chatting with him while he's doing this about where he's going. Like the talent that that guy showcases, memory has to remember first quarter whenever he's in the fourth quarter of all the games. And then also directing of traffic and not sounding like an asshole.

Now there's sometimes where he'll start a narrative that I don't think is the right narrative. Sure. Okay, and then he'll have to revisit it a little bit later. Can't bet a thousand. Yeah, can't, but he's flying a thousand miles an hour around, that's a tough gig.

I think he makes it sound. Throw someone else in there. Can you imagine, Pat, if you threw someone, just throw some random in there, and say, here you go, give it a shot for 10 minutes imagine like you're you'd be swimming i think it's also like a sensory overload too you know yeah because the amount uh yeah i imagine starting that though knowing you're going like seven straight hours just starting that every sunday he definitely makes it look much easier than it is i think that's the thing producing it

like he's basically live producing. You can hear him going at producing. Hey, can we get that, yeah, get the Browns, Browns. Can we get that plate back up? So yeah, I need Scott in there, okay? Me too. I agree. Me too.

I think the NFL has to know that, but maybe not. Well, cause Cisiano used to do it. So they might, I mean, if he's playing hardball, they might say, listen, we'll bring Cisiano. No, he's with the Browns though. Yeah, I know. I'm sure he'd be okay they might say, listen, we'll bring Sisley on. No, he's with the Browns though. Yeah, I know. I'm sure he'd be okay with leaving the Browns radio job to do Red Zone again.

Maybe Adam Shine throws a shot in the ring. Adam Shine could do it. What are, it's gonna take a special talent. It's gonna take a special talent to get in there. That as somebody that speaks into a microphone and I believe I probably have a pretty okay memory and everything like that. That one, I've tried to put myself in his position

at home and like, all right, how could this work out? This could be, is this a, because like college ball needs one, you know? So like, do we pitch that? The NHL could have one, you know, like there's a lot of those that they could have, but it's not just as easy as the concept. The person that is doing it matters in that entire thing.

And it's just like like you have to be In for a long time and the way he does it great. I don't think that's an easy person Yeah Reese was doing it he also has have a general knowledge of 90% of the players in the league every case something happens all the background. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's not an easy get back up quarterback Yeah, all of it like you said too There's a difference between like doing TV and like having a producer in your ear like a little bit when you're about like I assume That there is a producer in his ear damn near every second of that entire eight-hour block. Yeah. Hey, this is next This is next. This is next like just constantly

Basically, it's like having like 15 voices in your head Anthony Anthony Calhoun wished, I have voices in my head. They are for me, they are for me, they are for me. What a song. Anthony Calhoun, Wish TV here in Indianapolis. I believe he was Syracuse's classmates with Scott Hanson. So he does a charity golf outing to raise money for the local teachers here, I believe. And one of them is to spend a day at Red Zone.

So I got a chance via his documentation of it. And it's like watching Scott go from. I assume it's NFC notes on one thing, AFC notes on another thing, then bounce into the second page of the AFC note with like four TVs in front of him without even skipping a beat and then even looking at the camera afterwards with like a point and then goes, now let's get to Las Vegas. And it's like, he's directing traffic.

He's like a meteorologist. Hey, we need Scott back in there. We need Scott. It is no longer seven hours of commercial free football though. And nobody cared. People were pissed there for about a week and then everybody turned it right back on.

And they're like, wait a second, why aren't we running L-Raps on this thing this entire time? Whenever he was saying seven hours of commercial free football, and then I saw Christian McCaffrey on an L-Rap, I'm like. That fucks that. I think that's a good one. I think you all are profiting from this,

but now that they're stopping it, picture in picture doing their thing, we assume it was only a matter of time. Yeah. It was only a matter of time before that happened. And everybody was pissed on the internet. Yeah, until the following time. Too valuable, way too valuable.

They have to. It happens a lot. It has to match. Well, yeah, it does. On the internet. Yeah, we're mad and then we're not actually in real life. And then, you know, as soon as it's 12 58. Yeah.

What four games am I putting on? Am I? There's one of these ones that just kind of tracks them all. Put the audio on. I got to watch Jags Browns locally. That's the only thing I got. I think I'll go to Red Zone. OK.

Yeah. 12 59. Yeah. One more week. And then when Scott goes goes welcome to seven hours of Red zone football this mother Art I'm sure I'm lot tomorrow. I'll stop. Yeah, that is they know it I couldn't even fathom what the numbers are. Oh for red zone mass. That's be a cash cow. Oh, yeah

Yeah, absolutely cash. I bet those ads with fantasy football. That's all people care about is like who's scoring like where's my fantasy guys? What are they doing? Ably our laser. Yeah, like touch as someone who only bets on touchdown scoring parlays Red zone is basically the only thing I would have to watch if I was just worrying about gambling So schedule makers what we're trying to say is make red zone easier as we're all watching it So if you have the one and four o'clock times easily separated, I think you should be able to flop those too. Now granted that would be cross networks, I guess. But what like if there's three one o'clock games like should be able to bounce, you know, yeah, you're right. You know, because there's like some four o'clock slates

that are cropped. And then there's like a loaded one of 11 ones. Yeah. And it's like some four o'clock slates that are cropped and then there's like a loaded one of 11 ones yeah and it's like we need them all it's like I wish they would be a little bit more active and making it easier to kind of do it all players would have to be the ones that would have to adjust this obviously but Sunday to Thursday's really the only biggest one if you're Sunday at 1 to prime time not a big deal if you're Sunday to Monday not that big of a deal if you're a Monday to Thursday then then you know That would be impossible seemingly but that would be a little bit different But yeah, I think we're gonna get to a point where it's gonna be a show game

Just remember didn't they say at one point there was a rumor about like the afternoon games are gonna be up for sale Yeah, do you remember that when it was gonna be like a like a bid? They're gonna do like a draft almost yeah I think that's only a matter of time Really? Yeah, I think like I think they're gonna try to profit off of more games. Yeah, if we're thinking about the end of obviously What is the going to UAE? They're going to UAE, right? I mean, yeah Why are they doing that Sean McDermott wants to play over there as as con man would say it has to be about the Sheckles That is what call me. I would say that that isn't what I would say, but I'm picking up. Shrek said that is what you said. Yeah, well, in that question.

Couple times. No, just once. Thank you today. Maybe spend some of your shekels. All time. Thank you to today's sponsor, SeatGeek, which is the greatest ticket buying platform on planet Earth and the moon.

Don't like what my algorithm's been doing with the moon. What happened? What happened? Turns out we don't need to worry about tickets on the moon because we never went there. Okay, alright. That's what happens. Okay.

That's just what I'm, they might be selling tickets underneath the great pyramids though, don't they? Okay, alright. I saw something about that, Colin. There's been a lot of that. Too much. I have to tell my algo I go into search by I go no more moon stuff search

Just hoping that the the AI understands a lot of videos saw a lot of interviews old-school interviews. Those are all doctor. Okay Buzz Aldrin would go And then just willingly a bunch of years later just say well we never went we never went I didn't see that Sucking this guy's dick about going to the moon for 50 years. You think one day he's just I'm sick and tired of it We never went I hate to burst your butt. Is that what you're saying? I didn't see that. Yeah, I've seen that That's not what I saw. The most obvious doctored footage ever. Listen, I could go in it. What's the doctored footage? That's what Connor just said. I mean his interviews are doctored. You can take this guy. This guy's 90 years old

He can take his words from 60 different years and put it together and he'll say anything. He'll say anything Shit, I can make him say that we've went to the he's been to the moon 450 times in the last three years You know what? I might do that actually wait for that video. It'll 450 times in the last three years. You know what, I might do that. Actually, wait for that video to be out in the next week. That's fair. I haven't seen any of those interviews. I've seen so many of those.

Oh yeah, AI voiceovers. What's your algorithm trying to do to you, John? I don't know, well, and it's all these assholes tagging me and it actually didn't go to the moon. Guess what we did. And no amount of, you know, gerrymandered and, no amount of research that you do is gonna convince me otherwise, okay?

You're picking and choosing. Sounds like your algorithm is joining their side too. You're gonna attack it from all angles. Can't do it anymore. Some of these AIs are watching the moon landing videos and saying, well This isn't real Certification certificate class what yeah he certification is the word. Yep, you get certified in AI Ten minute class that turned into a four-hour class. I think he wants an expert level. It's got his master's degree.

45 minutes. I didn't get it. I got 45 minutes worth. It was great work. I got to go back. And it was just learning some of the basics, some of the terminology. What do we need to know about AI that maybe we fear

or that we don't know about? Yeah. Did they cover that? We're fine. We'll always need humans. We'll always need humans. What's the great benefit? That's exactly what they want you to think. We'll always need humans. The'll always need humans. That's exactly what they want you to think.

We'll always need humans. The great benefit, I mean the benefit is you can just, you know, multiply whatever work you're doing. So if you, or if you could just, obviously type shit in, how we build photos on rock AI photos, if you wanna put a flyer out, if you wanna put classes out, teaching, learning, obviously all those, yeah cheating for sure. So kids now, that's the day just type in anything and just why do we why will we always need humans?

Because we direct that then we direct it and then they we have them for now for now because Hey D, but how do we keep it from directing itself and directing us and changing, you know ruining us He took the class okay, and this one said this one said can't Think that was number one and then he went through 45 minutes one through it all I believe what you told me though is they'll never understand Conversation AI is so what say no, no, it's always just certain context that we have with conversation So even even if our age group a certain calm conversation that we can have

Amongst ten-year-olds mad dummy and it would just go completely over the head and it's fucking old people from that are 90 years old They can say certain things that we wouldn't pick or if we're speaking The language of your speaking Spanish, but Spanish speakers can speak and say things that we wouldn't necessarily get so yeah They can figure some shit out, but it's so much context that There are machines and they're learning to what it's just the beginning though D, but this is another class This is 201 can a computer talk like a human? That's a good episode. That was the part we're talking about.

Yeah, but see, that's the problem is I like to say AI is. Sweet Blake in that. But you just mentioned like school and humans and stuff. Like AI will become so good at it that people won't actually learn anything. So then people will start to get much dumber and then the AI is getting smaller. You're talking about idiotocracy, brother?

Look, I'm just saying look out. The AI put that class together for him. So that was a thing. Those were humans, all right? The humans over at IBM. Do you know that? Oh, at IBM? You sure it wasn't Watson?

You mean Watson? OK. It might have been Watson. And that's why they're always going to need humans, too. Who's going to do all the manual labor? Who's going to wear the shackles and chains that the AI has eventually? Guess what?

We are. We are. That's the, you know you know so yeah they will always need well before that happens let's go get a ticket to a game enjoy like you're alive but are you living go live and experience something live with our friends at SeatGeek they have over 28 million downloads 28 million downloads that's a of downloads. Seakeek is still the number one rated ticketing app. How about it? 28 million downloads, number one. Those road downloads?

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It's gonna work. Yeah, he was in the oval office and yeah, yeah rock. Yeah, yeah He was he was dressed like evil Knievel and evil Knievel son Robbie Knievel do not forget Killed it to Robbie was not like a evil to like he was he was awesome. Here's kid wrong Brother Here's Kid Rock. Here we go. This A.I.? Nope. No. That is SKR, brother. That is... He ordered a missile strike on Gaza right after this. That's Kid Rock.

But they did sign a bill trying to eliminate ticket fraud and scammers. So like even obviously with Big Night Out, I did not know the extent of it. We had no idea what was going to happen with those ticket sales. But it was pretty evident that there was some sort of A.I. or robots buying tickets before anybody else could get

them. They were just either, or there was multiple people with multiple different logins trying to get those and then immediately going up on the secondary market at an up price. I think Taylor Swift had a situation take place where it ended up in the Supreme Court, I think, with the entire fraud and the entire thing. Yeah. So this has been a business that people have been taking advantage of, not only venues and like the fans,

but also the artists and everything else going on. So that would be a big deal. I don't know how they regulate it though. Like we're just talking about AI and Darius, who is our certified AI expert, these motherfuckers will never be able to talk to us because they won't be able to catch our drift. They won't be able to understand what we're saying

in that whole thing. But I think they'll always be able to buy a ticket. You know, like I think AI will always be able to be a boom, here's my credit card and I want it and you're out. So how do they monitor that? How do they regulate that? Hopefully they get that under control because as somebody who loves going to live events,

whenever you see like there's, we're selling tickets for 20 bucks to get in. Some of those tickets were hundreds of dollars. Oh yeah. 500, 600 bucks. Immediately. Immediately on the secondary market, and it's like, that's so fucked up for our people.

Like, the people that I wanted to get, the reason why it's priced that way is because the people that I wanted in, you know, like, I want that crowd in that building. Yes. Like, that's who I want, but instead it goes I mean once again, this is my first show our first show very small sample size But even we experienced it and felt it. I couldn't even imagine what these big-time artists Feel about it, you know

And hopefully they do get that said a lot in the music industry is kind of having to get figured out We're kind of getting sorted right now. The ticketing thing is very very real comedians as well Obviously, yeah and the ownership of everything too like that was the biggest thing for feels like a couple years when it came to Taylor Swift and her own and her own music and Then people started selling their entire catalogs. You remember that where you know, I've just timberlake I've already sold all of his music. Yeah springsteen. Yeah, it's very it can rerecord them Yes, and then Taylor's version. Bingo, it's their own.

Is bigger than... Like my wife only listens to Taylor's version because she's like, I'm supporting Taylor. And it's like, hell yeah, good for you. Good for Taylor, she's getting... Double. She's double-dipping. Which once again, Taylor Swift is a super genius. And a lot of these artists are great business folks. So if that was to happen, I think he'd probably win over some folks.

Let's go back to the league meetings happening down in Florida. You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers talking about business proposed an ability to chit chat with the free agents during the tampering period. We had free agency frenzy on ESPN. ESPN NFL had their free agency frenzy on ESPN too at the same exact time, biggest day of the off season.

They had their show. We weren't allowed to have anybody from their program on our program, we're live at the same time, they are, but it's a big deal. That's just the opening of the tampering period. That's not even the actual free agency period starts, which is on Wednesday at four o'clock. So like ESPN viewed the tampering period opening at noon so big that they wanted multiple shows covering it immediately at noon so big that they wanted multiple shows covering it immediately at noon But the rules of the NFL were that the teams weren't even allowed to talk to the players The free agent players that they had negotiated deal before the tampering period even began they talked to their agents

Obviously they're able to get a deal done and everything But they weren't able to like meet them because it was some reason prohibited So the Steelers were like shouldn't we be able to at least chit chat with these guys? we're gonna give a hundred and some million dollars to a day before we meet them. And that got passed. I think probably everybody was feeling that way. Up to five free agents are allowed to chat with starting at the tampering period. They're also saying it's a way to set up either meetings or medical or whatever the case is. I think it's a good idea. I think a lot of things that are getting passed right now and

make common sense. And this is certainly one of them. Yeah. They're allowed to do one video or phone call with up to five free agents Like you said during that tampering period that started I believe at noon on Monday before the beginning of the league New York But yeah, it makes sense like sure you could talk to the agent the agent could say yeah, everything is good here But you would much rather talk to the person who is going to be on the team who's going to be playing for you this One there was a lot of rules that got passed that that just were like made sense and we're like why wasn't this already a thing? And this was was probably one of them. Yeah, I I like this. Yeah, I like this. I can't believe this had been happening Without it. Yeah, I think this is one of those ones where I was surprised when I found out that

People weren't talking to the new team. Yeah, we signed this guy to what? found out that people weren't talking to the new team. Yeah, we signed this guy to what? 230 million bucks. Did you talk to him? No, no, no. Talk to the agency. He's a good guy. The agency is a good guy.

Well, you fucking better hope so. I mean, and then it doesn't happen. Obviously I'm talking about Cleveland, but it is a, this makes a lot of sense. I like this. Yeah, you think it'll change for agency at all? Because like a situation like the Patriots with Milton Williams where, you know,

hey, the Patriots are out He's signing with the Panthers But instead of him flipping back to New England in that situation where if he is kind of talking to the Panthers on a zoom Call or something like he will even have a chance to call the Patriots back per se because if their one call is over You know that you know, you know because then he ends up with the Panthers. And then do you think some guys, let's say they schedule five people, but you know, you don't even make it to the fifth team and they signed to the first team.

Like does that call count towards the people that you have kind of slotted as the five? Yeah, and are you spending all five on top money guys? Or is it like second, third wave guys too, that you kind of want to chat with that you're paying medium salaries to there'll be a strategy to all this it will be always is well I'm with you I like it too if you're especially from the team standpoint players standpoint to be team standpoint

I think it was Tomler or someone from the Steelers organization saying yeah we just got time to spend intimate time with Aaron Rodgers and get to know him if you're investing tens of millions of dollars into a player, into a person, you definitely wanna know and have some in-person conversation with that individual. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, who is this guy? He's getting paid more than anybody in our locker room?

Yeah. How about the Steelers signing DK Mech after this deal and then being like, we need to be able to fucking talk to this guy. I am sick of this. You know, cause the Steelers, this isn't really their MO. Day one free agency or anything like that.

This is not their thing. Now they're getting involved in it. They're like, you guys have been doing what? Exactly. No way. Is that how we're going to be doing this going forward? Have an update here. We talked about Kirk Cousins potentially going to the Cleveland Browns,

which has been gaining steam because of Kirk Cousins relationship with Stefanski. Hembo, genius stats guy from from ESPN who we appreciate. He's AI. He is AI. He's a bit of AI. Hembo is an AI. Yeah. Yeah, he's a human AI. Yep. Him and Oz. Oz is a demon. Yeah, Pelicero I think is what you're talking about. Yeah, Pelicero is the one that's plugged in. Yep. Yeah, he is. I mean owes has a little bit of everything He's a demon. He's AI. He's an alien. He's all over. He's a freak. He's a little bit of a freak Yeah, shape-shifter probably there is a chance. He does do a little You know nice. I mean now you don't type thing anyways hembo the stats AI from ESPN said Kirk Cousins had a

from ESPN said Kirk Cousins had a hundred and seven point five passer rating with Kevin Stefanski as his offensive coordinator for the 2018-2019 Vikings that's the highest playing under any OC of his entire career so saying that Stefanski and Kirk Cousins could potentially do well together is with stats backing that up highest of Kirk Cousins careers with Stefanski is the OC. Does that change anything for you AJ? You think the Browns are going to pick up Kirk Cousins potentially here in the next month or two? I mean I think it can't hurt. It definitely changes a little bit. The fact that they have a history and a past together. Like why wouldn't Stefanski want to bring Kirk Cousins in? the question is like can they can they pay it how much more does he owe like 80 mill something crazy more than that

uh i don't know the exact i know it's 37 i think it was 27 then an extra 10 uh as of march i forget the date just a few weeks back they can make it work though right if they want them they can make it work can't they well if the falcons want them out of the building they can make it work like the falcons can pick up a lot of the a lot of the pay, you know, that's what happened with the Russell Wilson, Denver Broncos situation where he goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers now I believe the Broncos they cut. Yes Yeah, Russell Wilson. So that was a part of that entire deal with the dead cap But it's like Falcons trading them you can negotiate how much of the salary you want to pay Versus the other team and what will somebody give up? Will the Cleveland Browns be able to give up? Who knows?

Kurt has to also sign off on the right since he has no trade clause. He said, what was that? 18, 19? Yeah, 2018, 2019. Brady wants to be a spurger. Brady's still your quarterback? Yeah, Brady's in New England, yeah. What are you saying, dude? I was just trying to remember what was happening.

He hates Kirk Cousins, we found that out. I just love, I like Kirk. Why? Why do you like him? I like Kirk. I'm talking about football and the players. We're not making this person. We're talking about football. No, I bet as a player We don't make this personal. We talk football NFL Pro Plus premium like Me and Bruce are down in there and when the quarterback series like I think no one looks better than Kirk Cousins I feel like Kirk's one of those guys that everyone does like but yeah boy did he stay and get football last year

You know, there's a moment there where he looked like he was still struggling from the Achilles and maybe not fully comfortable in the offense. Which very possible so perfect thing for Cleveland would do would be hey let's sink some sink some more money into this quarterback room and you know what Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski sure ownership screwed you instead of drafting the young guy let's bring in an old guy and then guess what if this doesn't work out you know maybe next year mm-hmm what does from what haslem said down at the honors meetings this is what he said let's address the elephant in the room you know we took a big

swing and miss with the Sean we thought we had the quarterback we didn't and we gave up a lot of draft picks to get him so So we've got to dig ourselves out of that hole. Shouldn't they be held accountable for that to happen? Listen, I've said this, I think numerous times. The Deshaun Watson was an entire organization decision and it ends with D and I. So, you know, hold us accountable. Hey, don't you think Andrew Barry and Safanski

should be held accountable? Listen, I've said this, think before we haven't heard it We've all assumed it was the case We all assumed it was the Haslams that decided to pay to Sean which is why Stefanski and Andrew Barry Having given this entire leeway because if you continue to not have success you would think that they would be looking for turnover But I think Haslam looks Andrew Barry in the eye and goes We screwed you over pretty good It's the first time he said this public. Well, hey Mike. I don't know public. Yeah, was that do you know he was yeah

Yes, yeah recorded that is what we were told that was a ESPN recording. I believe there's probably no cameras Maybe just an audio in that room But I did it did sound like that was a phone under a pocket, but none ESPN recorded don't, please. Please. He's not passing blame. He's not passing blame. Oh, I gotta get ownership.

I respect it too. We took a big swing, big miss. It sucks. We move, see another day. Just like we will see you tomorrow. Goodbye. But like, I enjoyed the way he laid that out. Yes.

We took a big swing. Okay? Cause think about how good he felt whenever he decided to do this. Oh man. Cleveland Browns were no longer in the conversation. It's either gonna be the Falcons or the Saints, allegedly, was the Deshaun Watson market at the time.

He wanted out of the Texans, wanted out of the Texans. He was wearing a green hat one time. He's going to Philadelphia. Now he's going to the New York Jets. Well, then everything very, very, very serious off the field came around and the thought was well is this guy still gonna be Able to get traded who cares who wants him well. He's on a football field. He's unbelievable and obviously There's just allegations at this point all that happens

And then the market becomes him in Atlanta in the Saints are his final spots Cleveland had been ruled out And then out of nowhere has him walk around his office with his wife There's a guy available. We're going to have to take it on Shin's a bit. OK? Top three quarterback. You see that JJ Watt? Mic'd up clip.

Yeah. Where he's walking off the field with the Sean Watson. Doesn't ask Pat. He says, sorry we wasted. I have no MVP here. So sorry. JJ Watt thinks he's good. Don't done on me.

We should. Yeah. What do you think it's going to take? Go to Andrew Barry. What's it going to. Don't don't done. I mean we should yeah, what do you think? It's gonna take go to Andrew Barry What's gonna take Andrew Barry calls Mulligetta? We'll get to goes by 230 million dollars fully guaranteed That's a lot Andrew Barry says back to Mulligetta We'll get to go see you on the Cleveland or not Andrew Barry hangs up calls the Haslam's office back He said 230 million guaranteed has him and Digo we thought he's gonna say 250 we said 20 million fucking send it no flubs that cuz that happened like overnight oh yeah it was like a boom bang pow boom gone signed

biggest deal in history most guaranteed money in history oh my god the entire NFL is now on notice because of what has them just did and it just has not worked out no at all at all on the field off the field might have said the nfl back fully guaranteed contract i know i know josh allen just got what 250 something like 330 yeah totally guaranteed but oh yeah once dashaun happened we thought like oh yeah this is you know when lamar is up and this guy's up and that guy's up and for it to work out like oh yeah, this is, you know, when LeBar is up, when this guy's up, when that guy's up, and for it to work out like it did.

But at that time, you know, you got a top three, four quarterback in his prime available. Walking around his office. We did it, D. I was actually waiting for him in that club to be like, you know what, now that I think about it, this was kind of D's idea. I was just.

Yeah, yeah. Look, I said no? Now that I think about it, this was kind of Dee's idea. I was just so. Yeah, yeah. Look, I said no, but Dee, she wanted it, so. Think about Andrew Barry going in every year to describe the team now. Well, since we're in a deficit of $120 million, okay? This is what everybody else can do. Remember? This is what we have the capability of doing.

And Jimmy's like, I get it, you're gonna know this three, four years, you need it. I messed it up, I get it, you got another three, four years to get it. I messed it up. I get it. I made a big dumb decision. But remember in a moment, we're going to win the Super Bowl. In a moment we're going to win the Super Bowl. If it worked out, think about it.

I mean, it was a big swing, no question, huge swing. So either you're the hero and you find a way and then win the Super Bowl, or this is probably worst case scenario, right? What happened with it? Yeah. No doubt. Yeah. For all parties. Worst, hardest, worst. Except for yeah no doubt yeah all parties except

for Deshaun yeah all parties except for Deshaun that's why I like the Chedure at the top just feels like it makes more sense because then you at least give him like hey now you do now your clocks actually on you have three four years you have a Chedure Sanders and the conversation about the draft is how you know deep the pass rushers and you know the linemen are in the tight ends. It's like, hey, the quarterbacks basically are Cam Ward, Shador, Jackson Dart, it feels like now. And then kind of the next tier, the tier thing is how we're kind of approaching

it when it comes to the group of players. So, I mean, maybe they do do the Carter and Miles Garrett and roll with Kenny Pickett. But it does feel like to what Schrager said hey if they told Garrett there's a plan and Garrett believes in the plan and that plan does include forty point one million dollars a year for Myles Garrett like maybe that is a legitimate choice for them yeah that's the whole different animal there whenever Andrew Barrett goes back to has him and says I got bad news again buddy what's that Myles Garrett not only is he dunking on

me in his statement but he wants the hell out of here and has him goes what's gonna take so Andrew Barrett goes what's gonna take 40 million dollars I'm gonna send it yeah I was Garrett and then around and he tried to meet with has him and has him I'm You talk to Andrew Bay You tell Andrew what he needs. He'll call me in a panic. I'll agree to it. You've seen this game before What's the Browns win? Hey, good luck dog? What a chance they won't no chance zero percent zero percent zero Like you say this every offseason. Hey, what's Browns win?

0 Like you say this every offseason. Hey, what if Browns win? Is hell yeah, but I try to be as optimistic as possible Just like I'm optimistic about the Colts. Holy hell. I was winning win what though? Yep, like the Super Bowl Browns make the playoffs. I'm not saying that's gonna happen. I'm saying what if Make the playoffs with all this conversation. I mean you said it the Bengals the Texans commanders Those teams were making the playoffs before the year that they did. That's true You're right miles Garrett to a little bit more ownership of the Browns not that he didn't have it before but he's really You know recharge. Yeah, we saw him on the in season hard knocks Texan in the mean room. That's a good point

He was down. He's playing Candy Crush. Yeah, my game It's a good game. It is Look good game. It is a good game. I mean, look at the success of the number two picks in the last couple of years. Exactly. CJ. Good luck. Jaden. Shadour.

Shadour. That was the thing. The Browns are definitely taking a quarterback at two. That was like two weeks ago. That was Mary Kay Cabot said that. She said they might take two in the first round. Two quarterbacks. They're trading back in to get another quarterback in the first round yeah Mary Kay's been covering the Browns a long time

long time ago brother that being said that was a pundit hat she put a pundit hat on it's always tough with the insiders the goal post got me the goalpost got me no joke I was like, I don't know how they're gonna do it. It was gonna obstruct some views from people in the end zone I don't know how the balls maybe to block a few extra things. But hey, why not? The thing I was thinking is that thing was a little bit water, you know, but what if they have palm trees that go in? Yeah, you don't want that. You're gonna make sure those palm trees are going out You know, we need to keep the top clip tight

Seats sell seats on the crossbar to make it wide so people can sit there and watch the game It's like the camera if the ball hits them. It's good. Okay, I like that and people can actually bat it in Yeah, they could hang underneath like a roller coaster. Yeah, they're pong. Yeah hits the rim. Boom knock it out bat it in It's not a bad idea. I mean, are we trying to get people to the game or not? Are we trying to go? This isn't Pitbull Stadium. Is it? No, it's FIU, right? Correct Miami because he's mr. Worldwide for the International Universe. Yes. Oh, yeah people stay the stadium Mm-hmm. Got an addition to the Thunderdome AJ. I don't know if you saw it on the wide shot I don't know if it was here yesterday when you were here, I have no idea. No. Oh, no This was coming like this was on the way. I didn't get to see it. Yeah, that's the punch your power thing

Mm-hmm. You guys been doing it hit a couple times this morning Bruce who is a trained boxer. Do you recall? Oh, okay. He hit a 921 on that thing I was not here for but he had to give it a good thump Mm-hmm. I banged it a little bit. I'm a little worried though. I'm a little worried might be 11, but we're gonna have to reset it Oh hit one Eight something let's say Hit one nine something and then I really laid into it

I mean there was the last one was by far the cleanest rattle and put full ass into it And it was like 801 or like lowest and I'm like, oh Can't have that get get that thing calibrated needs to be counted down in can you kick it? Can you get your leg up there? You kick it? That'd be sweet right now. What's that? I think it's currently calibrated Yeah, it looks like it is it's been dancing this whole fucking time. I know it's Needs to figure it out. It looks cool. It does look cool it looks like it is it's been dancing this whole fucking time I know it needs to figure it out it looks cool it does look cool yeah it is true kicking it's gonna be tough I think unless you do one of also in my algorithm as of late I think it's karate they go through the boards yeah where

they run yeah get tossed yep and then they hachie yeah they get tossed tossed all right see yeah grown up galloping like a clean run and then they catch eat. Oh, the high ones? And they land it. Yeah. They get tossed? Tossed. Oh, I haven't seen that. Yeah, grown up. Galloping like a clean run, and then they catch somebody, and then boom, they're in the sky. They're doing a four time one of these. Yeah, I got it. Through a board that's being held up on a pillar.

So now. I've seen that. I've seen that. It's nuts. Because I was not. I didn't see that. I've said this before, but back in the day, you had a friend that knew karate,

you're okay in most places. Without a doubt. You know? But now with the mixed martial arts thing, the karate one, he's gonna need more. We're gonna need more than just karate. Be the wrath. Oh, really?

I don't know. I think I'll- Jiu-Jitsu guy will get you down. Yeah, I'll take a Jiu-Jitsu, taekwondo, black belt. Yeah, what you're saying is all the other ones. Like karate good to have in the arsenal. Back pocket can, hey! Yeah.

Until you go to the ground though. Karate's not gonna help you on the ground. Yeah, I'm worried about the MMA. The cauliflower. Yeah, because they're gonna die on the bottom and you're going through that board in there. I think karate good to have with you. Sure.

But I think you need more I what I'm saying is if I got a black belt in karate with me I'm pumped to be with a ninja But I do know that if we get to somebody that has ground and pound capabilities, we're both fucked Okay. Now if karate person also has ground and pound another belt Oh, yeah, with that now we're great spot. Need multiple belts now to be completely safe in a lot of places. But with that being said, when I saw the flying karate kicks, we're back. Oh yeah. Because you know the Caul Flyer you want to go ground and pound,

if you got a karate friend you need to take it to the sky. Yeah. Okay so that is what I learned from my algo. he's gonna have strategies yeah I know where you're at yeah I know who you're with got a karate guy start practicing this one yep if you get his ass up in the sky from what I have seen yeah like a cat land on their fucking feet mm-hmm and while in sky precision okay and it's loud too there's a lot of yelling. Very loud. Oh yeah. I'm sure it has a lot of good carry over in any real combat situation. Guy up on a ledge at a bar. Yep. Throws a bottle down at you. Okay. You dodge bottle obviously because you're with a guy who

knows karate and he has the seventh sense. Yes. To let you know that that's the case you turn you see him. He goes what your karate friend You assemble okay you in the lads put your drinks down for a second You're not throwing bottles back obviously, but karate guy karate friend karate man runs you cheerleader toss up and that guy up on the bar goes from this to that. And he's not. And that's, hey, now we're doing two story fighting. And that's what it's like when you're in the sky with a karate guy. Need that animated right there.

I mean, yeah, that guy just. Now I'm rethinking it. You're right. I got to get the karate. Time for the high kick. And they run over there. The issue is if you don't have a ground and pounder, you do have to go to places that have two stories.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's a big part of the crew. Only two story places. Can't be at one of those shithole bars that has a real low roof. No, no. That is not where you wanna be. That's the good news.

We are screwed. Every karate high flyer knows a ground and pounder. So it's like, they're basically a package deal Okay, you better hope so if not need to stay on the lower level of a multi-level bar sure Mm-hmm cuz they're never gonna expect No Coming out but what if he's like what if he's on the third story and he jumps down to the first and kicks him from there Doesn't need boosted. Is he on are we fighting a karate kid as well? We didn't know that was no our karate kid our karate kid sees our target down the first and kicks him from there doesn't need boosted. Is he? Are we fighting a karate kid as well? We didn't know that was a kid.

No, our karate kid sees our target down the first level. He's on the third level, jumps off the balcony. He doesn't need your help to boost him. Are we doing that too? Maybe he's got his eyes. He's our spotter. He's like our sniper. He's Jack Ryan up in the tower. Then you become the filmer. The guy who's tossing. Yeah, you need to get that on film. Yeah, I got the camera then. Yeah, I need to get that on film. Especially if guys coming down from three stories 30 feet and comes through glides through the Front looping. Oh my god. Yeah, lands it easy. There's like a parkour road or it's a land

I do enjoy the parkour that's been in my timeline too. I seen this guy do a He did a double McTwisty sideways flip thing a Benson Booneone i'll call it. Okay. He's doing a lot of those This thing two buildings was it necessary? No Might have been 40 50 full. I mean, oh, yeah, just so casual jumping over. That's dead Yeah, I think there was rocks. I think there was rocks on both sides. It's like what are they? What's wrong with? Oh, yeah, they die And not so when I say happens, but they know no, I know but I'm saying those guys are unbelievable They'll jump super high and they have way like they use their their body to like absorb the landing and roll out of it Like they're they're freaks. They're legit. They use it every day in everyday situations

I would seems like it so it's for if you're a parkour guy if I had that a bit fuck you Yeah, Jackie Chan did remember he used to get out of everywhere There was a wall. I don't think so. He saw stairs pump pump pump pump bang. He's the goat. Yeah Him and Tom Yeah, Jackie's still doing oh, yeah, he's in karate kid movies coming. I'm a karate kid legends Trailer actually dropped today. I think you know the best thing about those Jackie Chan movies. We're all gonna say the credits Oh, yeah, the outtakes. Yeah Thank you. Do those thoughts well that yeah

Jackie Chan movie deal I don't stay for the credit only stay for credits in Marvel movies unbelievable respect Rush hour just watch rush. I disrespect The other day I watched it this weekend. It was on yes Yeah, I loved it. I was trying to guess the I was trying to guess the characters like do I still know because very early There's a boat war fight. Oh, yeah, Jun Tao first Jun Tao. Yes shows up here Yeah, you guys I'm looking for Jun Tao and then he goes why are you looking for me and then boom? It's off and I'm like, oh, yeah, we're back in. And I don't think my wife had seen rush hour, which was a full What are we doing here? Great move. What?

Conversation that happened between us had to pause it actually to have a how does that happen? How does that one slip through the cracks we get there? I haven't seen a Disney movie So I guess she had a lot to say back we press play to that thing. I forgot so good So that's that's a good one. They're on rush hour to also holds up holds up very good, but you need to stay for the credits I mean, that's yeah member. That's what they're all laughing at Jackie and Jackie the Marvel movies Well, you got a Easter egg post post credits. You got to see what's coming next Different characters. Yes they do. Whose voice is that?

I don't know. Just some superhero fan. Cody Rhodes loved me. Who was it? Was that Shady who was running up and down giving spoilers for Marvel movies? He became my favorite human when I heard he did that. They hated him on Twitter. Oh yeah, hey I got to see Blank early.

It was wild how, bum-ba-bum-ba-bum-bum. Can't believe Iron Man died. He said, I'm like the Wednesday before the movie came out and people were not happy. That happened to Hulk as well. Mark Ruffalo was doing an interview before the infinity war. He's like, just wait, everybody dies. And then he was not supposed to say that. Then they were not happy with it. So now the superhero world is not as strong as it once was though, right? It's coming back They're bringing back all the main all the main guys really I saw a video the other day where they were just panning out Yeah, see down the a lot of all the man's are coming back I was a man guys and they also made Iron Man a different character now. So Robert Downey juniors back as well

He's a bad guy now. Dr. Doom, you could say. Are they going to bring, are they, uh, are they going to bring, uh. What do you want to talk about Marvel Universe? OK. I wasn't doing, I wasn't doing that. Oh, I thought you were. That's unbelievable. What is this guy doing?

Tony Rhodes dropped John Cena last night. He did. Did he? Crossroads. Boom. Cena was cooking, fam. He was. He was. Did he? Crossroads. I don't know, Cena was cooking, fam. He was. He was.

He was burying it. Yeah, yeah. I like how Cody did a little B rap. Of course I grew up in a trailer park and yeah, he did fuck my girl. He did do that. I like that. What were you gonna say about Marvel?

Oh, they should bring Snow White in. Tomorrow? Oh, it turns out, what do you mean? Yeah, they spring they should bring Ziegler Into one of these Marvel things uh-huh and just have it. They canceled all her stuff actually no, but that's what I'm saying Well, I'll do it in a way. You know if Disney owns Marvel. Yeah, yeah Disney could really get what they pay for out of no one credit Yeah, get it you know, drop her in Marvel Universe. What's going on here?

Hank gets cut off. And somebody just... Alright. Yeah. And then just keep it walking. Yeah. That's not a bad idea. That'd be a good little self.

I am... IMDB. One point something? Yeah. Setting up to be the biggest... How is that even... Well, I'm guessing that's a lot of people who haven't seen the movie, but they're not exactly okay with what's going on around the movie, but they're not exactly

Okay with what's going on around the movie, so they just go right and say oh this one. I think this is zero Anybody okay, I thought that no actually people that were that happens a lot It's a it's a low score of all time. No white snow white the new snow white is over talking about yeah I know you what about rotten tomatoes? What have they done? I? Think it was super juicy. Yeah Certified fresh you know exactly what happened and it does suck because those movies do do well like that always live at 40% on Is that good is 40% dude now? I'd be rotten, but it's, you know, it's not terrible. It's not 1.7 bad. I think, I think dropping Snow White in Marvel movie would be good.

That'd be cool. Or like a John Wick. She just out of the arena killing a bunch of people. Yeah, maybe. The Counting Tube is coming out. Ben Affleck, that looks good. I love the first one. He was a killer sniper mercenary type guy. Yeah, he had to do media for that was talking about a lot of things

Mm-hmm, Ben. Oh, it was I didn't see that. Yeah, John Bernthal. Let's go. Oh John Bernthal's legit. Yeah Yeah, there's another movie somebody's in that we're Modeling the TV show there it is. Yeah, Bruce was talking about is that good Pierce Brosnan? Speaking of good Yeah, Bruce was talking about is that good? Pierce Brosnan. Tom, what a hearty Tom. Have him watch yet. Speaking of good, James Winston, bat 1000 as New York Giants quarterback. We have a clip of him describing what life could be like if they play football well.

Winning for me in NFL is required for this organization to start winning, you know, so we can have more more more giggles more laughter more fun In this in this building like we in the biggest city of the world. We should enjoy that and I think winning Does that so when it comes to looking at their record? I didn't I didn't look at this team in a 3 and 14 team I looked at what was possible and what I saw was possible is an offense that can execute efficiently and that can be explosive. I saw a defense with an incredible front and I saw this all season with them adding, posting the depot and Javon Holland in the back end to create some noise,

to help that front get home. And I just figured that the Giants, man, they don't look like a 3 and 14 team from the talks of, you know, people talking about, I know Kavon, I know Byron a little bit and Dex, like from their talks and their conversations, like the locker room didn't seem like it was a 3-14 team. So this team is looking for a complete paradigm shift. This team is looking to make a splash, man. And there's no better place to do it

with no greater calling to do it than right here in New York City being a New York football giant. Hell yeah. You said that in New Jersey, obviously, but the point remains. Is there more giggles around the corner with a paradigm shift? Bruce Brown noted New York Giants fan. More giggles, more laughter, more fun. I'm going to my third parade, boys. I hope to see you all there. I can't wait. This fired me up. I absolutely love Jameis.

I'm excited for Russ whenever he does his presser as well, just to see that dynamic. And then you know there was Shador talking about it too. He might be getting, I think Dion said he might be getting baptized pregame in the pregame speeches. So things are looking up. I'm fired up. As you should be. Hell yeah. Yankees still doing good. Yeah, still undefeated. I had an off day yesterday They got the Arizona Dimebacks coming at the time of the night. So you guys are already taking off days huh? Wow. Oh

I didn't know that. What the hell? I thought baseball was every day for 163 days. I mean it was up to the Yankees They'd play every day. They'd play 200 games. You know, but I don't know. A lot of people know Seeks. That's a long flight for the Diamondbacks. A lot of people. A lot of people. How many double headers they have now? Like how many double headers will a team have? None, unless there's like rainouts. Really? They don't schedule them anymore? No. Nah, it's like fucking high school baseball. Come on. Why not? Not two out one day. Let's do it. Yeah, let's play two five inning games that we fucking nuts if there's a rain out. Maybe it says Says in fucking 12 year old a you baseball. We're not playing doubleheaders, New York Yankees What do you want running clock? Oh

No, not in football, but no, I tell you what the old baseball doubleheader. That's a great day for some people Some people go to both games. That's right a session Maybe you just get two games for one ticket. That'd be good for make him a day day off the next day, obviously let the boys rest just had to what is the Whenever there's a cancellation or a delay. Is it a shorter game or they play two nine inning games? No Yeah, two nine inning games. Cove it. They did the seven. Yeah Yeah, yeah to jam in 60 some games. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Do we like it better or no? No. No When is a John Carlos Stanton bet?

As soon as he can move his elbows, so we don't know He's actually started picking up a bat and swinging it again, which is huge Maybe he does to Torpey care. You love to have to torpedo bats in the batter's box. Yeah. You just got to stay on the plate. They might let him do it. Having two of those would be sweet. I guess you'd want to swing those sideways. Yeah. So you get double the, you wouldn't want to swing those.

Exactly. Yeah. Ooh. Would you be early late? I don't know. Yeah. Would you want to be early and late or would you want to be side by side? Would you want to be early late?

Early late. Would you want to be bang poem? Like one of those. I think you'd want to be early and late or would you want to be side by side? Would you want to be? Here we go, early late, early late. Would you want to be bang-pong? Like one of those? I think you'd want to double stack them. You want this double here? Yeah, because guess what? You're making contact a whole hell of a lot right there. So you're trying to act sideways like that. Yeah.

You could also start like X here and then boom, boom, like that as well. What's that? You got to be pretty confident. I'm standing behind him? No, no, no. Are you squirming up? You're starting them down here like this. Okay, and you're coming out What what are you?

Might have to go no work standing you're standing on the plate brother Does your meat right there in the strike? Yeah, you're facing bitch. Okay, you're coming dude here and you're Yep, and then Dude yeah, and you're crossing them up. Yep, and then The only problem balls coming if you don't make contact You're either wearing a hundred mile an hour fastball on the chin or to the tip of the penis take your base listen take your base Yeah, my OPS should be on the right little chest the Baseball needs to embrace the bait and let two torpedo bats be in one guy's hair one night Let them try it. One night.

What do you want to do here? Yeah, exactly. You need the bananas to do it. There we go. Let the bananas do it. Let those jerk-offs do it. Jerk-offs? That's great. Son of a bitch.

Son of a bitch. Fucking stadium. Son of a baby. Have some respect. I have no ill will towards the bananas. Sounds like you do. I should say that. I just got in the moment.

You know, I said, you know, because, yeah, they're brain of baseballs. Jerk-off, jack-off, baseball. It's a show. okay, okay. I should say that. Jack just got in the moment, you know, said, you know, cause yeah, their brain of baseball's got jerk off, jack off baseball. It's a show. I get it, I get it. How about when old guys, how about when they catch it through the legs? Some of the shit they do is wildly impressive.

Yes. Like, I mean, it really is. Cause there's no way they can, like set anything up, right? Not really. I mean, it's like, it's a live baseball game it's not it's pretty tough to you know those MLB pitchers are so locked in they need so many breaths they need their entire thing I'm watching these bananies

pitchers and they're doing full and then they're coming in there right into it and do all the six yeah break it off Banana guy breaks his shit. Guy comes in with two, uh, what are those? Stilts on two stilts in this back flip pitcher and then he's throwing the underhanded the other way straight. I mean, I don't know how these guys aren't getting looks. First of all, well that's cause these guys are thrown about 84 miles an hour. What? Look at this. Look at the, at the omp even. The ref's even bopping a little bit. Is that ref 7 foot 3? He's part of the show.

And hold it straight. That was a foul. That was a foul. That would be a foul. I did it again right there. Don't love the ref. That was a lot of the omp. No, he's a part of it.

That's dancing omp. He's got good, good moxie. The dump? Yeah, because I did a Monday Night Raw at Savannah, Georgia. And some of the bananies were there. Yeah, he caught it. And look, he just threw it under his fucking leg. Double.

Yes. That was this guy. He did this one right here. Yeah, you're right. How slow is that guy out of the box? Behind the back, bang, through the legs, double play. Savannah bananies. Wow. They're doing it. I agree. Is that ump? Is that um Savannah bananas ninja at first base you

want a full face mask thing I mean can't be it got kids in the crowd yeah s**t go cross chop they definitely can't be what a play yeah what a play oh give me that he says they were losing too yeah they were done the bananas yeah but because they did the behind the back snag in between the legs throw they have five runs in one which they should which maybe MLB should think about maybe instituting some of the banana rules we got the torpedo bats let's keep the Mickey Mouse shit for the Savannah bananas they could keep dancing waving their poopers everywhere and you know grabbing their penises after the fucking the dancing up though I would say he was right behind me for raw he's got it I bet he is I don't mind

this guy he's got good swag Pinochet oh yeah yeah okay I'm out on the dump what I like he's not a dump hire He is the dancing um, which is the dog. Oh Okay, let's kind of get this game rained in a little bit dancing. I'm said you got it. The dump is a big time Oh, you mean? Yeah, if I've ever seen Professional salsa dancers making it about himself. No, he's passing time another pitchers warming up. We're here to watch Party nut jobs. We're not here to watch the dump Well, he's gotta have eyes all over the park somebody catches it tonight. That's a good point in the stands

Mm-hmm that can end the game. Everybody thinks this umpires making a joke of the game Instead he's hard. He's got a harder job than these fuckers doing the MLB. I disagree. What? He's got to pay attention to the dance moves? He is the show. Uh-uh-uh. And he thinks he is. They don't have the box to tell him if it's a strike or a ball. He's got to call that thing freehand.

They don't have strikes and balls, I thought. I thought it was like, misses and almost hit it. Something like that. On that note, I think we're done here. almost hit it. Something like that. Come on. On that note, I think we're done here. We need to go to a game. Anyone in there been to a game? Mitt went to the whole three game set.

Ran bases afterwards. I almost got the game winner but it hit him right in the mouth. He lost two teeth. Yeah, that's why he talks the way he does. Hey, how was it? It was a good show, wasn't it? Yeah, it how was it? It was a good show wasn't it? Yeah it was absolutely amazing. It's a good show. It was so like no seat empty it's insane. I got respect. I got respect for the show they put on. Kids would love it. Trust me. I can't kids would

absolutely love it. Well it's like Harlem Globetrotters but for baseball. Yeah exactly. It's cool. Sought out a football stadium. No yeah what they do is wildly impressive. It is. It's just like I love baseball. I'd rather go watch a regular baseball game than all that is it all ex College baseball guys mostly I think cuz you still like some of these guys like you you can't just be like a fucking scrub I mean they still got guys throwing you know, it's still like an actual is decent baseball product. Yeah, like So yeah, I don't think they have any you know, barely guys out there It's mostly guys who probably played like high D1 baseball Maybe they should test out some stuff for the MLB. I don't think so. We got the torpedo bats right now

I think that's that's a good start. I see one pitcher pitcher from both sides. Yes Seattle yep, that was crazy. Did he make the team? I don't know if he made the team I'm not sure the glove that was able to get on web Yeah, they're like 95 both sides. Yeah, love that. Yeah, he was raised what he would have to deem it before each batter No in between pitches you can switch He could but it'd be mostly like, you know, if a lefty was up, he'd probably pitch left-handed if a right He was up he'd throw right-handed but in middle of count. Can he switch good? Yeah, he could throw left right left right left right every pitch if you want To that be so yeah, the Savannah bananas need him. Yeah

He needs to reset the market Well show hey, we're supposed to do that, but they won't let him pitch because he's too good of a hitter Take a pitch back-to-back days if you're going right ready lefty couldn't you? If you say with this day, I'm pitching righty on Monday on Tuesday I'm pitching lefty and go in complete game both things double Tommy. Yeah, you're back when it hurt at all You John Carlo on the male double? This guy yeah, he's the guy This old he did make now this this is a

This is the same clip I saw so he put through that one lefty right now This is preseason top bottom of the fifth here. Yeah five two they're down Now that I switch the glove over Yeah, I was a righty. Mm-hmm Let's see. Is this live action or is this preseason? No, I think this was spring training, right? Yeah, this is spring training This is a clip. I saw yeah, so now he's just right. Why is it? Why is it spring training kind of cold? Where are they? This is a clip I saw, yeah, so now he's just right here. Why is the spring training kind of cold? Where are they?

Back in Arizona. So he's supposed to be- That's pretty sick, yeah. Yeah, that'd be fun to be able to do. That'd be cool. I grew up with a kid on my travel baseball team that did that, Matt Witt. Literally out of nowhere.

Like out of nowhere. You okay? Nah. Oh no. I'm just waiting to see, I don't know if we're taking a break, I don't know if we're doing it,. I don't know for I'm going to poop my pants Shoot one What do you do what do do you eat? This water gun?

Oh, I don't know. He had a noodles company and he had a jumbo coffee. So jumbo coffee. But this is normally from last night. This is normally the one in the middle of shows normally last night. It ate my bladder. You see Kenan responded Can't sound what that was all about He said give me a gods country as if we're not under the umbrella of God up here It's like maybe he was just saying give me home. Oh like from Keenan and Kel Yeah, he's but he's been on SNL for what 30 years a long time. He's been the longest for sure He said you're gonna do you want to go to the after party? What I think Morgan just saw the exit was well, they said he's been on show before the last idea to not do that

I was like, okay. Well, I didn't remember that or no. I gave him to his boy He's got a little bit Boy Okay got a little bit of heat Not heat got a little bit of a situation brewing Jerry Jones at the owners meeting said, you know, he's not worried about the contract with Mica Parsons. Then there was a report that there was a contract offered to Mica Parsons. Clance Hill Jr. Jerry Jones with blatant disrespect to Mica Parsons, Agent David Mulugeta. The agent is not a concern here. I don't know his name. Mulugeta is one of the best and most respected agents in the NFL. Of course it is. Let's scroll up here now to the response here from Micah. Facts. David is the best and I will not be doing any deal without Mulugeta involved. Like anyone with good

sense, I hired experts for a reason. There's no one I trust more when it comes to negotiating contracts than David. There'll be no back doors in this contract negotiation because allegedly Jerry had been talking to Micah and his agent wasn't involved. His agent being Mulugeta. Jerry saying he doesn't know the name of his agent is interesting because Mulugeta, he's the one. Every position group basically, he's the one that has the biggest contract at that position group. He was the one behind the Deshaun Watson deal. He was one behind both DB deals that got signed this particular offseason. I believe wide receiver, you can go through it. Moola Getz is the guy. He is an absolute dog when it comes to this. There's a little heat. Jerry Jones saying, I don't know this guy's name. That's crazy. Yeah, that is great. And him even being offered the contract behind the agents back, if that's true.

I don't, you know, that's the hope this isn't an April one type situation. Doesn't look like it, but that that's why I need to say, you don't know the agent. I believe he's been repping Micah for at least a couple of years now. Cause I can remember off season where him and Strah out were doing some awesome shit. Exactly. Like how, when you know, does he have CD or Trevon digs or I'm looking right again any of those I would assume Yeah, even if he didn't know like Jerry Jones like yeah, you know, Jerry's letting them know hey, I'm in charge here, bud Yeah, I've been in the league a lot longer than this David fella

We know Jerry So that's good. Anytime that type of shit pops up. That's cowboys. You know, that's classic. That's good It's just like T Higgins put a cap thing out there you know remember Duke at the combine said that ideally we'll get this and Jamar chase will be the highest paid non and we want this and then somebody put a tweet out saying cap miles Garrett wanted out you didn't want in there and then money comes around and it all gets sorted and Michael Parsons is always wanting To be a cowboy even whenever he was a kid. That's what will happen here. He'll get 40.2 a year and reset the market again. And I think Jerry said something along the lines of, I don't care if I have to pay more,

I just want to get it right. Something along those lines. Jerry is one that normally has to pay more because he delays and delays and delays and then inevitably a deal gets done did it with DAC did it with CD I assume there's others just within the last year that has taken place and Micah will probably be the next one on the board to get that done with Myles Garrett signing the deal that he signed obviously that affects a lot of people Trey Hendrickson TJ Watt Micah Parsons a lot of people that get to the quarterback for a living are now wondering well what's what's my number gonna be have we heard anything about TJ Watten and Pittsburgh Steelers? No they talked about it, they were asked about it at the league meetings and they said they

want TJ to be a one helmet player and then it'll get done and it feels like there's not really a super rush right now but it'll get done. Yeah and Trey Hendrickson, what's going on there AJ? Do you know anything in Ohio? I do not know. I definitely think TJ they have to get that done But with Trey, I don't feel as confident that the Bengals are gonna bring him back and they're gonna find a way Yeah, I don't it got Got quiet

It's weird. Yeah, we're in a quiet period the last one that was that I mean Trey deserves a bunch of money So like they they want like they are sure. Yeah rightfully so he wants a lot So like they they they want like they are sure. Yeah, rightfully so he wants a lot 30 years old last big one, you know last opportunity for a big contract probably I mean who knows maybe four years from now when he's 34 He's still going as strong as he is right now, but he's coming fresh off the sack king title 30 years old and I think what he told us was been delaying this now for multiple years to kind of hopefully get a deal done hopefully they're able to do that you know since nice paying folks they're figuring it out

mm-hmm Teddy Karras that's good right we like that yeah I love Ted it's cool he's the man who do he's hilarious hey that clip of him at the at the parade deal and then what they trying to get him to cry about football or something emotional about the Reds opening day like His answer. Yeah, Ted is always awesome Ted, you know you come here a couple years ago now you're in a parade and you know You're giving back a lot to the city. Do you get a little bit emotional whenever you think about it all? Yeah, I get emotional pumped up to read

Just like constant good vibes. Yeah great merch to the the Cincy red stuff that he had since he had Yeah, the hats areas You're gonna make it to a race game AJ you stick swing I sure hope so yes, I will See I Schmidt fresh out of a dump Make sure you hit close to where the black pad is at above the ball there. You're gonna want to hit. Yeah. Yeah, cuz if you hit low, it's not gonna go great.

You hit high, it's gonna hurt. Let's go over under. Fresh out of a dump. I'm gonna say. Six pretty good. That was a great punch. Whoa. Yeah.

Nice. 833. Good work. Who got 921? That was Bruce. Bruce Lefty got that 921. Bruce Mayweather. I Who got 921? That was Bruce. Bruce Lefty got that 921. Bruce Mayweather.

I didn't see it. Big body Bruce. I would love to see Bruce throw a punch left handed like that. I know he's got a, he's got a, they call him Francis and Ghanu. It was righty. I do think I can get a left hook up there too though. Okay. We got time.

We got time with this thing. Let's not just wear it out day one. Yeah. Exactly. All right. Let's get the hell out of here. It's been a hell of a day. Ty, how was the dump? Pretty good, pal. Yeah, it kind of sounded like I just lit off a book of black cats. Sure. It was quick, but it was

I got it. Yeah, sure. Not M 80s. No black cats. But not M80s. No black cats What happened here you got through that yeah, I should talk you mushrooms this morning we're playing no games Okay, so you think it was a shitake mushroom. I didn't know if it was last night's operation. No, no I'm certainly not last night. You ate something that was didn't have anything last and I'm kind of a one meal a day guy now Really? Yeah

Well, whenever you lose it that quickly though, you know, I need to res replenish Well, I should have known I haven't had noodles in quite some time and you know Some of those more exotic dishes if you will. Yeah, dude Sometimes you know a lot of a lot of sesame seeds in there spice a lot of different spices, you know, I Don't exactly know what sauce they have on there. Probably some peanut oil, some chili powder, that kind of stuff. Cayenne pepper. Cayenne pepper maybe.

And then of course the- Is that the accent? Have we got any Gator? I don't think so. You've got any Gator. Jeff Landry's full of shit. I knew he was. Oh, wow!

You better watch your fucking mouth. Fuck over Jeff Landry. What was he saying? We dead. We dead? Jeff Land we sent some gator We got gator plays in the freezer Jeff Landry did Landry did one of these You don't know nothing about that Black Shirt defense boy. Nebraska. Yeah that was an interesting moment.

That was interesting. It's enough. You probably don't remember. Hey that's a fucking no. With the accent. Hulk Hogan. Mrs. Hulk Hogan. Alright.

What a moment. That was a whole nother scene. What did you say about Hulk Hogan? What are you talking about him? Well hulk hogan there's some uh, there's another Anytime people start doing this one here, you know, there's uh, it's an interesting timing. Okay. Whoa you put your I can't wait to have that gator can't wait can't wait to have that gator have a couple bison burgers. Oh the other day sure It's pretty good. It's gonna lean me the beast the beef. Sorry the Sunday beef roast Over there in England was really good. They had the carrots in there and shit green peas roast based the roast beast. Yeah

You know, I don't know if they have steak knives over there really. No, you have to use swords or their teeth well Whatever the case the butter knife that I had sure was just ragdoll in this beef. I mean it was It was like I was just rolling this thing back and forth but once I ate it was so good You know, it was it was delicious shout out to England shout to Scotland Shout out to the WWE. That was a hell of a night and shout out to all you boys. All right We'll be back tomorrow. What's happening tonight a lot of big stuff tonight. Let's make sure we pay attention You got some basketball. You know some hockey

Ovechkin continuing his run to the gold record. They're playing the Bruins So I would expect the Capitals to maybe Ovechkin put in two or three perhaps. What's that all about? You just got shout out by Luchic. Yeah Luch, my guy of course but unfortunately we're a long way from Milan Luchic you know kind of patrolling the ice you know if we're right now we're in a officially hey we're on the next season let's go Celtics. Aren't the Bruins doing good still? Are the Bruins good or no? I think they lost eight straight They're so after our hockey gods because they traded Marshall after marshy got traded we go on we beat the Panthers without Marcia he's not on either side and then the hockey God said okay now it's time to bury the hatchet

Let's go Celtics NBA playoffs start next week. Congrats to you guys Pacers are hot down 16 last night against the Kings and Tyrese and the boys lead a massive comeback NBA playoffs next week. I believe the playing I believe the last day of the regular season is Tuesday Then the playing game starts Maybe Thursday or Friday. Okay Big night out next Wednesday. Yeah. The Masters next weekend. Oh yeah. We're here.

Let's go. We did it. Yeah, I'm glad we're talking baseball this week. Right boys? I think we're gonna keep talking baseball. Don't you think? Yeah. Shelly, Skeeds.

I think we might. Torbjorn. The Reds, dominating. Yeah. Are they? Yeah. Yeah. You saw the clips from last night. four hits to home runs. That's right

First Terry Francona at the helm. Are you kidding me? He's a little at the boys go. I'm gonna try I'll tell you that much I will genuinely try red socks supposed to be good. Okay Where's my? baseball Baseball highlights in Homer's Homer's Homer's home torpedo bats Gold gloves torpedo bats easy gold gloves torpedo bats might send you some other things don't send me any penises all right we're back tomorrow great work I just told it on to it'll listen okay

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