The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 132- The Voice Of College Football, Kirk Herbstreit, Stops By For A Hell Of A Conversation About Life

Episode Date: November 19, 2019

On today’s show, Pat and the boys are joined by the Voice of College Football, one of the most handsome men working in sports today, friend of the show, Kirk Herbstreit. They discuss this past Saturday’s installment of College Gameday and when pat knew that he was going to bellyflop into the Brazos, the CFB playoff committee’s mindset when selecting their top 4 teams, why he thinks Alabama is on the outside looking in, Kirk chats about which quarterback’s he likes watching in the NFL and who he thinks is in that tier. They also cover how each of them got to where they are now, including Kirk’s winding road from doing local radio in Ohio to being the face of college football and the different bumps he encountered along the way, and gives his thoughts on when the next installment of NCAA Football might be coming out. It’s an incredible conversation about football and life (2:07-52:04). Pat and the boys also cover what is currently going on in the NFL as they get a pulse for what Steeler fans are thinking and why they may or may not hate Mason Rudolph, discuss whether the Lions or the Bears are in a worse position, and gush about Bill Belichick having a little fun in his post game press conference after the Eagles game. Today’s a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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has been nothing short of fantastic. You can see him on College Game Day. You can hear him on the primetime game on ABC. Ladies and gentlemen, the handsome former quarterback, Kirk Herbstreit. Yeah. What up, man? How are you? So what did you come up with the idea to jump into the river?

I know you're busy, you and your crew, and we've been fortunate enough to have you guys on the last two of the last three weeks, but I wanted to ask you, people are like, when did you know he's going to go and jump in the river? I go, I don't think I really knew he said something. You said something to me on the octagon. And I was like, I said, I don't really know what you're talking about. I said, I'm going into the Brazos. I'm like, OK.

I had no idea what you were talking about. I did. I said, hey, Kirk, i think i'm fucking going into the brazos river he's like we're like 10 seconds to air you're like excuse we got like a thousand people around us think about this and i just look at him i shake his hand hey nice to see you this morning uh i think i'm going to the fucking brazos today and he just what he started cackling you started cackling and then we're back on air right after like a pretty serious video piece and i was like oh i almost just ruined everything right there i gotta keep my mouth shut dude you've been you've been awesome i i i told you when i uh texted you after it's hard to come

into an established show like that you know and kind of feel like where do i fit in these guys have been doing this 100 years but the greatest thing is you just are being you. It's been a breath of fresh air. We hope to have you on hopefully every week as far as I'm concerned. I've been telling you forever, forget Celebrity Picker, bro. You got to roll. You got to roll on the show now. That's good for the

boys when we just heard that. Obviously, big fan of the show. I told you this whenever we talked to you last time. That's on in every single football facility across America. So I literally watch every single show because I would be hanging out in the training room while everybody else is watching film, coming back in, going back out. I used to watch College Game Day in its entirety with our athletic trainers and our equipment managers. So the first morning that I was on College Game Day day i get a picture from one of the athletic trainers his

name's kyle and it's a picture of everybody watching with me up on the screen right and they're like you made us proud but it was like a reminisce back to the old days and then this past weekend equipment manager froggy he used to watch he was like man we used to talk about what you would do if you ever got on there and you today was you jumped into a river hey how deep was that river four feet four feet kirk so you didn't do a scouting report on that i did i i took notes i asked personnel i did the whole thing i asked old captain of the ship as soon as i got on i was like how deep is this thing and he was like eight feet i'm like oh money so then i go upstairs and i guess there was a full conversation that was happening down on the main deck that it was nowhere near eight to ten the one the one producer screams to another producer he goes

uh does he know that it is too shallow to jump off of the top and i guess we want live right as that guy was saying that because that message never got relayed to me so if i didn't do the belly flop kirk oh right the belly flop i think saved me because there's more body mass to kind of because i think i only went down like a foot maybe yeah my head pops up so quick i think i could have done that two foot of water so let's remember that for future game days. That I can belly flop. That was a great moment. And yeah, the belly flop was good theater, but it turns out it saved your life.

Yeah, yeah, I did it on purpose, obviously. If you see when I got in there, because you can't see the bottom because it was a bit muddy, by the way, it felt good to get that muddy river water back in my mouth like Pittsburgh whenever we were kids. It felt good to get back into the grid of it i was like you see me start flailing my arms because my boots were filling up with water and just starting to

suck me down so i'm like oh my god oh my god oh my god i'm gonna have to do this and then all of a sudden i feel something i'm like wait a minute that is way too low and i stand up that thing was like right here on me i'm like oh my god just jumped into a kiddie pool. It was a cool moment though. I have so much fun. Oh, it's classic. Hey, your show is so much fun. There's no other show like that show, I don't think, like ever existed. What's cool is the live crowd.

The crowd is so authentic and it's a big part. We try to make it a big part of the show. You can feel it. You know what I'm talking try to make it a big part of the show you can feel it you know i'm talking about you you're down there for that uh twitter show before you can kind of feel the energy uh kind of building and growing and and then you know by the time the show's going on uh it's no different because i've talked with guys who are artists that go around and play in different venues whether it's big stadiums or arenas and they're all sold out you know a lot of these guys they sell out arenas but they they're all sold out. You know, a lot of these guys, they sell out arenas.

But they said sometimes you get to a certain arena or a certain stadium venue and it kind of feeds back to you, the crowd and the energy feeds back. And I think, you know, you can feel that in the shows that you've been on, especially when we were over at Memphis. You can see what they mean when they say that. And I think our crowd, we're just so lucky because a lot of these studio shows, the NFL's tried it, some of these other shows tried it's just kind of like people randomly standing behind the guys on TV and they're just trying to get on TV our crowd is is like it's I

don't know it's hard to describe you know but it's it's real energy and we appreciate it's a festival that's exactly what it feels like it feels like a football festival for and everybody has positive vibes just like in a music festival everybody has positive vibe because there's a lot of hope and optimism because the game hasn't happened yet everybody thinks they're going to win and if game day's there it's a big game so it's a good day it's just like it's a perfect mix of people having a good night and early morning people wanting to support their team and also they feel like they have to show up for their school. Like if their school doesn't show up, they look bad because game day is a staple almost of Americana, you know? Yeah, yeah.

And I think they look at the opportunity to send a message to the country that, you know, game day's here, and this is our chance to kind of celebrate our team and show everybody that we love our team better than everybody else does. So every week it seems to be a different kind of flavor, different feel. This week we got Ohio. That was awesome. So this week you got to study up all your different chants and all the different things they do. OH is all you need to know this week.

Oh, yeah, believe me. We did a stand-up show over in Columbus just a few months ago. Best venue we were at the entire time was awesome. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, if you feel a little dry, spot all you got to do is drop a – O-H. O-H. The whole body starts screaming.

And I got to dot the I. I think you got to dot the I, too. I think that's a big deal, right, in the whole thing? Oh, my God. That's like – I think there's's been you have to look it up i think there's been more be four or five people in the history of of script ohio that have dotted the i that have not been a band member it's like woody hayes uh john glenn um i don't i i can't remember it's very there's like i said three or four people have ever done. Buzz Aldrin.

That sounds like a good goal for you this week. No, I don't think this week is the time. Maybe next time. But for you going back to the place that you played at, obviously you're so far removed. Now you've done so much college football. So you got people judging you from everywhere because you're either too hard on their team or too nice to another team or whatever it is.

But going back to Ohio state, is it special? It has to be. Oh yeah.. But going back to Ohio State, is it special? It has to be. Oh, yeah. I love going back. You know, I just think the – not just being a former player. Just so you know my background, my dad played there. He was a captain there about way back in 1960,

and then he coached with Woody Hayes. So I grew up with that, and then I became a player, and then I ended up becoming a captain for myself so despite what the lunatic five percent fringe will tell you that I hate Ohio State I mean Ohio State pumps through my my veins you know I just love the Buckeyes always have but I got a job to do like you do you know we we subject you you break down the games you have to be fair and objective when you when you uh break things down The funny thing is now Ohio State's really, really, really good. And anytime you say anything positive about Ohio State.

Homer. Yeah, you're Homer, you know, of course. But, yeah, going back to Columbus, and hopefully you're there this week, you guys, you'll see ridiculous energy. It's an early kick. And it'll be electric atmosphere. It always is, but especially when Penn State and those all-white unis come into Columbus, it tends to go up a notch or two. So it'll be as good a scene as you'll see this entire year. Ohio State, the best team in the country? LSU is so damn good, man. Yeah, I mean, LSU, their resume, I mean, you follow it. LSU,

what they've done offensively is ridiculous. Joe Burrow, those receivers, Joe Brady coming over from the Saints, that's insane what they're doing. But Ohio State, offense and defense, I don't know. I've been following Ohio State for a long time. I don't know if I can remember a team that's been this good and this consistent on both sides of the ball, going back to week one all the way through. I mean, Ryan Day, you imagine filling the shoes of Urban Meyer and then doing it this way. I mean, it's been,

I mean, you'd expect a bad half, a game where you're just trying to, you don't show up ready. You know how it is. It's hard to be ready every week. You expect them to show up and be flat, and they have it. Like every single week, this team has been playing a plus football and so in that regard it's easy to say they're the most complete team in the country by far but lsu's offense and the fact that lsu's beaten alabama they beat in auburn they beat in florida they beat texas uh hard to argue with with what they've accomplished as far as their resume okay so can we explain to people who aren't big college football fans or aren't NFL fans, not college football fans,

the college football playoff committee that meets tonight, their rankings will come out tonight on ESPN. I can't wait to hear what happens. Always, by the way, a lot to discuss whenever this happens. What is that? It's a group of how many humans go in where and who are they, and then they come out and bang, bang. This is our subjective feeling on who should be

in the top four or not. For NFL fans that don't follow the college game, first of all, I don't know how you follow the NFL game until you get to the postseason. I'll tell you, you watch a one o'clock NFL game, unless it's your team. Holy shit,

is that boring? It is awful. But if you watch the college game, you used a great word, subjective, because NFL, if you finish nine and seven and you're tied for the division lead, you've got like five or six different tie breakers and eventually somebody wins the division in college you try to win your your conference but it's subjective when it comes to getting to the top four for the playoff and everybody looks at this four team playoff to me what minnesota did last week was part of the playoff the entire season is really a playoff you know I know you're row the boat. I know you're down after that one.

I'm sorry. It's tough. I went after the college football playoff committee pretty hard. And then they just laid an egg for me right in that boat. Yeah. And Baylor went down. But the reality here is it's like 12 or 13 people. They're former. some of them former athletic

directors. You got former coaches, different administrators, just if there's different people that are in there to subjectively try to look at different analytics. You have coaches in there to look at the eye test. And they try to come together every week with who they think are the four best teams. And then the team at five, six, seven, and eight, they're throwing things at the TV and throwing things at you and me. And everybody's upset about everything. And that's the beauty of college football. But, yeah, these rankings every Tuesday, obviously they don't really matter

until we get to the final rankings the first weekend in December when that's official at that point. It's great talking fodder, though. Oh, yeah. It is. It moves the needle, Kirk. I want to tell you, somebody who lives on the YouTube now as a YouTuber,

rankings and me reacting to them moves the needle. Oh, my God, yeah. Oh, yeah. People look at this. It's like Clemson was five in the first ranking. Oh, to be the man, you got to beat the man. I am sick of this subjective group of men and women in there who refuse to acknowledge that Clemson is the national champion.

Have they lost? No. How do you have them outside the playoff? You've got to be kidding me. That moves the needle. That right there, Kirk. Boy, that little clip right there, that moves the needle kirk on the internet and i really if you want to move the needle just talk about alabama and and where do

they fit uh should they be in should they not be in because no matter what you say you're gonna alienate half the audience so if you say oh yeah they're one of the best four, they should be in, you're dead to everybody. And if you say they should not be in, you're dead to people in the South. So yeah, if you want to move the needle, just talk Alabama. Because I think Alabama is going to end up being left out.

Whoa. Because of two injuries? Clip that. Somebody clip that. Kirk Herbstreit, voice of college football, doesn't think Alabama's good at football. Did you hear him just say that? No, no, no. I just heard his name. Did you hear him just say that?

No, is it because of Tua, though? Is that a real? No, no. I felt, you know, two years ago, Alabama's just Alabama, right? They got all these first-rounders. They lost to Auburn two years ago. They didn't even go to the SEC Championship. And I was one of the guys that said, I don't really care that they're not in the SEC Championship. They're still one of the best four. They got to Auburn two years ago. They didn't even go to the SEC Championship. And I was one of the guys that said,

I don't really care that they're not in the SEC Championship. They're still one of the best four. They've got to go. They've got to be in the Final Four. And they ended up getting in over Big Ten champ Ohio State. This year, just personally, it doesn't feel like that. They don't feel – even with Tua, that defense is not – they're young. Their best player, Dylan Moses, is out for the year at the beginning of the year. They just not gelled with all those youngsters on that side of the ball.

They got a great offense. And when Tua was in there and those receivers are dynamic, but with his ankle injury and with the way they're playing defense, and of course, now he's out for the year, even with him, I felt when they lost to LSU, they'd be on the outside looking in. And I still feel they're going to end up staying about where they are. And if they blow Auburn out, they're at least in the discussion. But I think either the Pac-12 champ, either Oregon or Utah, or Oklahoma as a Big 12 champ will go ahead of Alabama.

Wow. Because Oklahoma has a loss. So you're saying a one-loss Oklahoma potentially gets in there over Alabama. That's crazy. Let's talk about Alabama, though. They lost a Heisman winner. They lost a national champion. They lost a name that has become synonymous with college football at this moment.

Otuwa is out for the year with a hip dislocation, which I guess has been different than the Bo Jackson injury because they were able to solve it quicker because science, shout out to them, figuring that out quicker for us. But Tua leaving is a big deal for Alabama. How do you think it affects the rest of college football, though,

with Tua being out? I think, first of all, I'm just glad to hear. Those first reports, everybody was saying it's the same injury as Bo Jackson. The only thing that sounds like similar was having the hip dislocation. But like you said, technology today, the fact they were able to get it back in within five minutes has a lot to do with the blood flow, evidently. And the fact that then today, this morning, they had the procedure. So everything I've heard has been very, very positive for him, which is, I don't know if you've ever met him. He's one of those guys and you meet him, you're like, I can be a better person.

You know, I can do it. He is ridiculous. Like, he's just, you know, he's like the last guy. You probably played with guys that if you walk through the facility, every trainer, every doctor, every assistant coach, every secretary, everybody had. You couldn't find one person to say something bad about him. And that's hard to find in a locker room with with a bunch of football players. He's that guy. And so, you know, it's devastating to see him go down. But as far as how it impacts the game, like I said, I think going to Auburn could be tough for them.

I don't know if it necessarily affects Bama the way it would have maybe last year or the year before when they were clearly one of the best teams. I think right now they're on the fringe, as I just said, of being one of the better four teams. But I think it opens up the door for the Big 12 and for the Pac-12 to possibly get their champion in. and for the Pac-12 to possibly get their champion in. And, you know, they've kind of – most people nationally don't give the Pac-12 a whole lot of love or respect. And, you know, they potentially have two teams in Utah and Oregon

that are going to meet with one loss that I think Tua's injury and Bama being on the outside kind of helps them out. I think the Pac-12 – it's Pac-12 after dark. They play so late nobody gets to watch. East Coast bias, that type of stuff happens for real, for real. Yeah. Yeah, it's real. So can I ask you a question?

So how do you do your podcast as much as you travel? How do you work that out? You and your crew, you just travel everywhere and just because sometimes you're standing up doing it, other times you're sitting down. What's the deal? So, like, we just got off a plane 15 minutes ago from New York where we did Get Up and then the live show, hop on a plane back to here immediately into studio in Indianapolis

to chat with the voice of college football. Then I'll go home, take a nap, come back in tomorrow morning, live show, record, got a Cheez-It commercial to shoot tomorrow. Yay! Cheez-It! Big news. Going to do that. Congratulations.

Love Cheez-It. Thank you. Me too. Got to interview somebody after that for Thursday's podcast, then bed, then fly to Atlanta for Thursday Night Football. Live show there. Those meetings with coaches, sleep, show, podcast, game, sleep, fly hopefully to Columbus, bang,

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You're busy. I am. I'm very busy. I'm engaged and I got six pets. But when I get home, the animals, they're very forgiving of the schedule. You know, they just are excited to see me. My lady's about done with football. My lady's about done with football season. She's like, I'm going to be home for 48 hours just one time at some point. I'm like, it's coming. So how does big time wrestling come into play there? Because you were doing some wrestling the other night. I was doing commentating on wrestling in the off season. I hope something will come to be with that. I just got to find time to work out.

You know, I need to get like Pollock has that incredible discipline of not eating bad things. No, he eats grass and water. I'm just not into that. I'm sorry. I'm going to have a little bit of something. Yes. I'm just not into that. I'm sorry. I'm going to have a little bit of something. Yes, I just had pizza today. It's been impossible.

Thank you. It's been impossible to actually get in shape. My plan was like, all right, I'm going to get in shape through this football season because I'm working so much. I'm just going to diet.

It's good for my body. It's good for my energy. And then we're in New York and I just walk past a place and I'm like, I'll take two of those pepperoni. I don't know how anybody says no to it. I don't know how people do, and I'm like, I'll take two of those pepperoni chips. I don't know how anybody says no to it.

I don't know how people do it. I don't know how Pollock has done that with his life. Now, here's the thing. When Pollock looks in the mirror, he sees 290 pounds because he was sloppy. He got sloppy late in his career, and he tried to because he played. When he was an All-American, he was like 250, 255. But I think he looked at himself maybe as a tweener because he was like an outside linebacker slash defensive end. Then he dropped – so he got all the way up to like 290.

Then he got back down to like 260, 270. So I think when he looks at himself, he sees this big guy. So I don't know if his goal is 195. I don't know what he's going for, but he's pretty lean right now. He is thin. I was looking at him up on top for, but he's pretty lean right now. He is thin. I was looking at him up on top of that pontoon boat. He had no belt on. I was like, man, if I didn't have a belt on, my entire pants would just fall.

Yeah, he is. We just showed a picture of him. He is leaning out. I mean, he is. Just chiseled. Just chiseled. I told him, he said something about kickers. And I said, Paul, I'll snap you in half right here in front of these people.

And he said, you better bring a lunch is what he told me. And I started dying laughing. I was like, that's hilarious. And I started looking him up. You know that dude had a 38-inch vertical at one point in his life? Bro, I'm telling you right now, if Pollock were to play tight end, because we have to do some of these companies we work with. We do a flag football thing at the National Championship, and I'll be the

quarterback, and he'll be one of my guys I throw to, and he's like going up one-handed catch. He's like Tony Gonzalez going up making plays. I'm like, why were you a defensive end or a defensive tackle? You would have made a zillion dollars and probably would still be playing if you were a tight end. No, he's a freaky, freaky athlete for sure.

What about you? What was your playing style? My style? Yeah. I would have really enjoyed today this whole run pass option, threat to run, threat to throw. Yeah, back then, if you played in my era, you were more of a veer, option guy, or you're a dropback guy. I was more of an option guy. We ran a wishbone when I played. So when I came out of high school into college, I had to learn about the dropback game. I had to learn about sitting in the pocket. I was more of a dual guy, more of a runner.

Oh, athlete Herbie out there. I didn't know you had. I didn't know that. I should have known, by the way. I wasn't Pat White. I was a 4'6bie out there. I didn't know you had. Yeah. I didn't know that. I should have known by the way. I wasn't Pat White. Hey, retire five, by the way. Retire five. Everybody. Yeah. Retire five. I should have known, by the way, the suits that you wear that you were a freak athlete.

Have you ever seen the way this dude dresses? It's outrageous. Impeccable. Oh, my God. We went up on. I went up on the octagon. It was the first time I saw a suit. This guy. This guy, I don't know

who the tailor is. I don't know if you're creating it. No, no, no, no. Your suit game is up there at the top of television, I think. When I moved to Nashville, Eddie George, the guy I played with at Ohio State, he's like, man, I've got to hook you up with my tailor, this guy that helps me out.

I was like, I'm in. From that point on, really the last eight or nine years, not only does he do it, he'll come over on Tuesday before I leave and he'll just pull everything out. I have nothing to do with anything. I just pretty much whatever he says to wear, I wear. He's doing a great job. Did he give you those bracelets too?

You had this big bracelet on. Yeah. That was when I knew Vinny started Vinny started doing that, too. Vinny got a new tailor, I think. And then he started showing up at these games for road games, and he would have, like, Gucci flip-flops on with, like, these incredible pants and, like, two bracelets. I was like, Vinny, you are killing the fucking game right now.

He's like, oh, I don't make any of these decisions. Somebody does. I'm like, you will. By the way, what kind of year? Are the Colts going to the playoffs? Yeah. Yeah. Gut lock? Is that the playoffs? Yeah, yeah. Is that a lock?

Well, if Jacoby Brissett can stay healthy. Jacoby Brissett, I think, is an actual difference maker in the game of football. I think he's a dog. You know what I mean? I think he'll win the game for you. I think he's that type of guy. And I think the Colts are legit. I really like him when he's playing.

Also, the Kegstan Selly, that team deserves a Super Bowl championship. The team that does the Kegstan celebration without scoring a touchdown deserves a Lombarda. Was that your idea? Who gave him that idea? I think Quentin Nelson's a pretty legendary human. I would assume that was his idea. There's people partying in the background, too. I mean, it was a 10-person party out there.

Yeah, I'm just curious because I live in Nashville. You dropped an epic line at the draft. And when you told him, you probably don't know who I am. I'm the punter for the Colts. We didn't punt very often against you guys. That was a great line. I appreciate that. But they are, you guys right now, I'm looking at it.

Oh, yeah, you and the Texans are going toe-to-toe there for the top of the division. You got a great shot. Well, Deshaun Watson got his ass beat last week against the Ravens. It seems like that's – He did. He did. And that's been his kind of M.O. through his whole career is the Texans can't take care of him.

He just keeps getting his ass beat. I'm scared he's going to get the Andrew Luck thing where he stops enjoying the game because of how bad he gets beat up. He is an incredible talent. When Davo Sweeney said, this guy's the Michael Jordan of football, everybody kind of scoffed at him. But once he started getting hot here, it's good. You got to see Deshaun and Lamar. I think you called that game. Those two are taking over the league right now. I cannot believe. I'm so happy for Lamar. Who would have thought? Think about the era that

when you played, if you would have said that the skill set of Lamar Jackson is going to become legendary. It's one thing to try to figure out a big 12 quarterback, you know, like when Sam Bradford was coming out or what we see now with Pat Mahomes out of Texas Tech, who does crazy things every Sunday. But Lamar, because he was so athletic, but he wasn't the guy that's going to sit in the pocket. A lot of when he was coming out, go back to the draft, 90%, 80% of people said he can't throw. He can't make plays from the pocket. Nope. Can't play. No way. They want him to be a wide out, I think, right? Yeah. Try to move the wide out. Now he looks like he's literally playing, like, I don't

know, Pop Warner football against NFL defenses, middle school football. Like he's playing by a different set of rules than anybody in the history of the game has ever played at that position also he's throwing the ball well top five in passing i mean he is it's not the cleanest delivery it doesn't look like that but philip rivers doesn't have that clean of a delivery and he's been able to play a long time as long as lamar can drop it into a bucket who gives a damn how he throws and the other thing is when he moves you know people again you go back to the old school NFL way of thinking, well, in the NFL, he's going to get hit.

He can't. He won't last. He doesn't really get hit. He's like a slinky. Like, he's just able to just kind of maneuver around and under. And I don't know. How often do you really see him get blasted in a game? You really don't.

So here's a stat. He has been hit 118 times this season, which is the most in the NFL for a quarterback. stat. He has been hit 118 times this season, which is the most in the NFL for a quarterback. Okay? He's been hit 118 times. In comparison, Christian McCaffrey, 246 times. So their offense runs through him as well. And nobody's like, well, is Christian going to be able to hold up?

Lamar is taking different hits than Christian, too. I feel like he knows they're coming. He's sliding. I talked about T.Y. Hilton has this ability where whenever a big hit's coming, he has this ability to kind of get out of the way of it. So I think it still technically counts as a hit, but it's not a real one.

Lamar, though, I think what they're going to tell him is you have to stop attempting to run people over because you're going to have to stop. But somehow you're going to have to turn that down and just go down. Because at the end of a couple runs there he was looking for contact almost and it was like i respect the hell out of what you're doing right now yeah but let's not let that affect everything else you know what i mean and who's the oc with the ravens because greg roman who is it greg roman

greg roman who's a west coast guy man he he deserves a lot of credit for recognizing that we can win with this guy. We're going to run some option football, and we're going to do some things that are unorthodox and different from the NFL model. And this kid can do it because what it's done is it's simplified their passing game. But Bill Belichick two weeks ago, last week against the Texans, some great defensive minds, they're loading up worried about him running. So you've got eight guys in the box, and then you create one-on-one easy passes, easy reads in the pass game. So right now, knock on wood, hopefully he can stay healthy,

and it's been a lot of fun to watch him. Hopefully he can keep it going. He's a real joy to watch. I think this is one of the first times in a long time. Aaron Rodgers has this ability whenever he's playing you want to watch because you have no idea what he's going to do. Something's going to happen. Pat Mahomes is the same way Lamar Jackson exact same way whenever he's on the field I'm like I want to see what this dude does with the football

every single time has the opportunity to bang bang out the gate see you later yeah yeah I think you're right about Aaron Rodgers of course I think Dak Prescott with the way he's playing right now Dallas is becoming that and I love I love. I mean, Pat Mahomes, whether it's a no-look pass or it's a jump pass that he throws 35, 40 yards a year. How did he not win in college? What's that? How did he not win in college? It seems like Cliff Kingsbury's doing well with Arizona. He had Pat Mahomes. How did that not become like a super successful operation? It was almost like we didn't really talk about him a whole lot. I mean, he was a great player, but you know how it is.

You kind of get to those teams that are winning four and five games, and they're kind of off the grid a little bit. He was putting up ridiculous numbers. Here's the thing, Pat. Almost everybody that ran Cliff's offense put up ridiculous numbers. So you just didn't know, is he just another one of these quarterbacks that's in that Texas Tech offense, or is there something special about him? Again, Andy Reid. Think about Andy Reid's background, where he grew up in the coaching tree with Bill Walsh and the

whole West Coast offense. How does he reinvent himself and say, hey man, we got something special here. I'm going to change my ways of the last 30 years and I'm willing to learn and adapt and change. He runs basically a Big 12 offense now with Mahomes. More power to him. I think these guys who have the ability to reinvent themselves just are able to stay with the game.

Andy Reid's another great example of that. Kicked Alex Smith out of town after almost an MVP season. Had an MVP season. Alex Smith is like, alright, I finally found my home here. I'm doing good. for that kicked alex smith out of town after almost an mvp season dude almost had an mvp season alex smith is like all right i finally found my home here i'm doing good my life is good you had an almost mvp season i'm gonna go have a good off season here probably travel a little bit hey yeah by the way travel right over to fucking washington you are hot dude that was so true and then when it happened i'm gonna be the I was the first person that was like,

what are they doing? This guy had an MVP season. We had a caller call into our show, our series show, from Kansas, and he was like, Pat Mahomes is going to win the MVP next year. And I'm like, get out of here, dude. This guy hasn't even played yet. And then he starts playing, and the guy called me back like two weeks in the season.

He was like, Pat Mahomes is going to win the MVP. I guess whenever the fans and even his teammates would see him in practice, it was like a show, obviously. He was playing exactly like he's playing now, but just in practice. I couldn't even fathom what that did to Alex Smith, by the way. If you're a starter and the backup is doing that, you have to up your game. You have to, or you're going to be out. You're either going to up your game or you're going to be gone.

That probably helped Alex Smith, by the way. He played football. But boy, what a good decision it was for them to move on to old Patty Ketchup loving Mahomes. Yeah. Gutsy decision but it paid off. Like we said, he's become must-see TV for sure. You like Dak, huh? You know,

I'm not like a guy that's jumping up and down but I like the combination of Dak with Zeke when they're healthy. I'm not a big Cowboys fan jumping up and down, but I like the combination of Dak with Zeke when they're healthy. I'm not a big Cowboys fan, but I like when they're winning. Don't say what you just said. Do you want us to dump that? Do you want us to dump that? That's America's team, dude.

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They're very polarizing. You either love them or hate them. They move the needle, though. I am actually sent an email on a daily basis to make sure I get obligatory Dallas Cowboy talk because the world wants to hear it. So who would we put in that category? You think

in the NBA, is there a team? Is it the Lakers? LeBron. It's just LeBron. I don't think of what I'm told. So who would we put in that category? You think in the NBA, is there a team? Is it the Lakers? LeBron. It's just LeBron. I don't think of what team it is. It's just LeBron. It's just LeBron. Yeah, like I think there's things that are listed on boards of people

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We're enjoying having you. I think I am. Good. If you're not, I'm going to make a call. I think I am. I got a call today and a text today that said, would you want to? And I'm always like, yes. The answer is yes. Best show on television. Would you like to be on it? Yeah, I would love to. Where do I sign up for that? I would love to. So I think it's going to be a good time. I think I'm coming out there. Well, I know you guys, you've got a lot of flights to catch

and things like that, but you may want to consider staying around for this game, you and your boys. You may want to stick around and watch this one. What time's the game? Noon, right after the show. Oh, we could too. I got to go to NXT. I got to go to wrestling on Saturday night in Chicago. Oh, see, that's an easy

flight. That's an easy flight. Indiana too, right here, man. It's an easy little pop through. Yeah, you got an easy week this week. That's easy. Hey, Waco is a haul down there. Yeah. It is a haul. It's way, it is way down there.

It's nice. Yeah. Beautiful city, good people way down there. Yeah, yeah. It was a little bit of a haul. What did it take you, about an hour, 45, two hours? Two. Yeah, two hours.

And I couldn't shower after the river, you know what I mean? So I was just sitting there baking in that stuff. That felt good. Oh, it felt great. My hair was disgusting. And I literally was sneezing it up. While you were calling the game that night, I was sitting at home, and I, like, woke up from a nap, and I, like, sneezed,

and I could just taste it just running down my throat. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, there's the brass. There it is. And then they lose lose how many guys travel with you um it depends where like to game day it's only me zito and foxy because we're not recording anything audio was whenever we gotta do audio stuff then you gotta bring in the ties and then you gotta bring in the swing man it's just it depends on which trip and how many but normally zito foxy, Foxy, and Ty are with me most trips. And game day, it's just Zito and Foxy.

So as you're playing in the NFL, how many years did you play? Like 15? I mean, you played forever. Eight. Okay. So as you're playing in the NFL, and you're thinking about getting into media, are you thinking all along, I'm going to get into my own radio show? Are you thinking I'm going to get into a podcast? What are you thinking all along, I'm going to get into my own radio show? Are you thinking I'm going to get into a podcast?

What are you thinking? Because it didn't take you very long to build an enterprise. So Pat McVieink has been around since I was playing in the NFL. I had a merch company that I sold T-shirts that sponsored a car in the 100th running of the IndyCar called shirtsforamerica.com. It was a t-shirt that only sold shirts for America for two weeks. And it cost me 250 grand to sponsor Conor Daly's car in the 100th running of the Indy 500. He didn't have a sponsor two weeks out from the event, right? So he was like, Indiana kid, 100th running of the Indy 500, who do you a blowfish was going to be there i mean it was a big deal 300 000 people coming and this indiana kid who's a

friend of mine didn't have a sponsor so i was like how much is it he was like 250 000 i was like let me sleep on it so the next morning i wake up and i call her now cfo phil and i forget what year this is sixth year in the nfl probably fifth year in the NFL. I call my CFO Phil, who's my accountant at the time. I was like, I need to start a company up today. And he was like, for what? I was like, we're going to sell shirts. And he was like, what about?

I was like, well, the race is on the morning of the weekend. Shirts for America. Shirtsforamerica.com. Make the website right now. So he makes it. I give the payment to Indycar the next day and just a check like a handwritten check for 250 grand from pat mcfee inc that was the starter cost for shirts for america then the proceeds were going to be donated we lost we lost we lost

six figures worth of cash on that and we got got crashed out by a Russian shirtsforamerica.com card. Got crashed by a Russian like 50 laps in or something like 100 laps in. Okay. And I didn't even get tickets at a race. I had to watch outside. So I had that merch company where I continued to sell shirts though after that from that company. So I did that. Then I did stand up where I sold you know like 10 000 tickets in

5 10 minutes for a tour where i rented the theater sold the tickets so i'd been doing a lot of things myself while playing in the league kind of entrepreneurial yeah yeah yeah i kind of expected everything to happen not maybe that's incredible man i didn't expect game day i mean that's uh but for us yeah we just kind of started as a small business that's why i used to be introduced as everything as small business owner because that's what we were for a while and then we made it and it's pretty cool it's actually pretty cool how long have you guys been out on your own doing this now two years one year year and a half year and a half yeah year and a half and and the the challenging part is you get other opportunities is staying where you don't have to be exclusive to one company where you can bounce from one to the next to the next that's a little

tricky herbie this has been interesting so the interesting thing was i had to go shake all these people's hands all these executive hands at all these places that told me no coming out so my agents had me on this handshake tour with all these executives in like L.A., New York, everywhere. They're like, hey, you're going to have to go meet these people. I think we think you could sell you better than we can, which all they wanted to do was introduce me to people so that those people could see that I wasn't just a madman. I think what they wanted to do. So we're shaking all these hands. And in these meetings, people would be like, hey, would you be willing to insert name of one of my six jobs I have right now in the fall?

I'm like, yeah, absolutely. I get any handshakes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we go to the next place. Hey, would you be willing to? Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah, guys, you got it.

And then there was just one particular week where they all came back. And we're like, hey, we want to do this. We want to do this. We want to do this. And at that point, you've got to either, you know, fight or flight, man. And it's like, yeah, i could do them all for sure and nobody wanted us exclusively which would be a cool conversation down the road our business to partnership with somebody but i've gotten a chance to kind of work with everybody you know it's been a lot of fun but it's been busy as

fuck yeah yeah for sure well you guys are crushing it's been been a lot of fun to have you not just with game day but everything you touch man you guys are you guys have got it rolling right now well we're a bunch of dumb asses at some point at some point it's all great is it to do something you love by the way it's cool i mean hopefully all your guys in there in the room there love what they do but there aren't a whole lot of people that actually love what they do well i think i think also people who think that people do what they love right they they think that okay since it's what you love you're not working your ass off it's like no no because i love it i'm actually working harder i i think that's kind of the thing so like

exhaustion is a real thing yeah you could sleep up for two or three hours a night you know in certain weekends or certain nights and like be okay because you love what you do. That's like those game days, those game days. I'm running on like probably four hours of sleep each time. But as soon as I get there, I'm just like, oh, this is the coolest. This is the coolest thing ever. Like, hey, body, figure it out. We got time to go here. It is.

It's awesome. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. How'd you get into TV? I got into local radio for about a year or two. In Ohio? In Ohio. i got done i got done playing yep and started to do local radio making twelve thousand dollars a year yeah fresh out of college 12 g coming out of college living on that scholarship check i thought i was like really rich i had a couple roommates and i i could have done that really forever. I enjoyed doing

talk radio. I did afternoon drive in Columbus for about 15 years. My first year or two, I would do sideline reporting for Ohio State Radio. Eddie George is when he was running to go on to win a Heisman. I kept bumping into Jack Root, who was down on the sidelines every game. He'd see all my radio equipment, my headphones. He's like, what are you doing radio for? You got to do some TV. So he kept telling me that. I'd finally just put a fake tape together, went to an empty Ohio stadium in February and did a couple of fake reports because I had no TV experience. I asked Eddie George and Joey Galloway, who were college players at the time, they're getting ready to go to the NFL, to come in. And I created a show called Buckeye Corner. And we did about 10 or 15 minutes with those two

guys. I just tried to think of anything I could do to put a tape together. I didn't know what a tape was, but I had a couple of guys that gave me an idea. I had no agent. So I just put all that on a tape and sent it to ABC Sports and ES espn and never heard back from abc sports and espn uh asked me to come in for an audition and they had a new tv station coming out called espn 2 years ago and they ended up hiring me to do sideline reporting for the um for the first for their first year which was 1995 season wow and the greatest thing is they're offering me the job over the radio and or over the the uh the phone and they're like we're gonna pay you 850 a game and like as they're talking i'm like writing down 850 and they said we'll do 15 games i'm like 850

trying to try to add that to my 12 000 that was making. I didn't even hear the rest of the conversation. I was like, I'm in. Carry the one here. Yeah, that sounds like a deal. That sounds like a deal to me. The thought of you creating a fake show to cut a clip to mail to somebody. Welcome back to the weekly Buckeye Corner. I'm Kirk Herbst here alongside Eddie George.

Ever fucking heard of him? That's hilarious. The executives would be like, oh, Buckeye Corner. How did we not hear this? This guy's a genius. That's beautiful. That's classic. Well, now you're the voice of college football.

That's a real thing. The game needs to come back. NCAA 2K needs to come back. Oh, man. Does it ever. Hey, you sent a tweet out. It got a lot of action. Did they respond to you?

Yeah. Yeah, man, does it ever. Hey, you sent a tweet out. It got a lot of action. Did they respond to you? Yeah. Yeah, they did. There's still some things, I guess, that the PA has to do. Hopefully it'll happen, but I don't think it's a done deal. My guess would be, depending on how the NFL PA moves, will dictate how quickly it may get done. I'm guessing a year to two years. But there's still a lot of work that needs to be done for it to happen.

Why does the NFLPA have any say in something that's happening with the NCAA? I have no idea. I think it has something to do with once name and likeness gets cleared officially with the NCAA. I think, I don't know, I will do a little bit of homework and report back when I see you this weekend. All right, man. Well, ladies and gentlemen, incredible story, by the way. Buckeye Corner. I think we should open that thing back up this weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of college football, Kirk Herbst. Thank you, Kirk.

See you guys. See you this weekend, guys. Yeah, you got it. He is really good. Yeah. Loves you, too. He's just like, yeah, he's a cool guy man i'm lucky very very lucky that he has um you know just been he followed me on the twitter a couple years ago and

when i saw it i think it was even one of those ones that follow you where you screenshot it you send it to your friends like hey look who just followed me this is insanity and then i obviously had followed him since watching game day and i got a dm this one time he was like he watched a video I made or something he was like man what a hilarious angle that you take cover in football or whatever I'm like oh I appreciate you man hey you too by the way like I want to let you know you do a great job as well and it kind of built on we met on twitter we met on twitter but yeah I'm lucky lucky. That game day is electric, dude. It's awesome. It's like a festival. It really is.

Like when I said, everybody's happy, too. I don't think I've ever – you don't see fights at college game day because everybody's like on the same team. Everybody's rowing the boat in the same direction, it feels like, except for the opposing fans who get booed out of there. Ohio State should be awesome this weekend. We like Columbus a lot. Yeah, Columbus is fun.

OH. IO. IO. There's going to be a lot of that We like Columbus a lot. Yeah, Columbus is fun. O-H. I-O. There's going to be a lot of that from me, I think. Yeah. How can you not? It's going to be tough not to just do that. I wish they had a bear claw. Just like...

I have a lot of Columbus, Ohio State friends. I'll see if there's anything else that you need to do. Yeah, if you're an Ohio State fan, please tweet me anything that I need to know about Ohio State that should be known and should make it on. I feel like I have a pretty good little Rolodex of things in the back of my head. While talking about football, I can slip things in. So if there's anything that I need to know about, I would deeply appreciate it. You know what you gotta do?

You gotta talk to A.J. Hawk. That's it, yeah. A.J. Hawk coming on the show Thursday. Oh. That is not scheduled. That needs to happen. That is lost.

Maybe Friday. He should come on Friday. Yeah. For sure. Let's hope that he's not busy. The last time I asked him to come on the show, he was like,

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does keep me asleep. Very thankful for them and i think you should try it out as well back to the show connor how you doing bud i'm doing well how are you pat i'm okay a little tired a little tired yeah 5 a.m wake up for a get up it's insanity so crazy hey by the way i had a pretty good performance on get up yesterday it is and even in the production meeting there's some days where i just feel like, okay, this stuff all seems to be right in my particular way. I try to pitch Colts talk in there.

I was like, hey, Colts are back, by the way. They're like, okay. Into D block. So I had to slip that in. Good conversation, though. I enjoy that stuff. And Dan and Rex are such an electric group of humans. And Greeny and Elle do a great job of navigating the convo. I enjoy that stuff. Dan and Rex are such an electric group of humans. Greeny and Elle

do a great job of navigating the convo. I enjoy that get-up show a lot. You mimicking Dan Orlovsky. I don't know if people have noticed this, but you mimicking Orlovsky with your hands when you guys are supposed to sit in there is next level. I don't think he knows you're doing it either. Then he started doing it to you when you were by the television. It was hilarious.

He's a good time. Dan took some heat today because of the whole thing about since 2003. In 2003, the Patriots won the Super Bowl. So it was like, for me, it was just a piece of information that I looked up last week that just so happened to be sitting on the tip of my tongue. I'm like, oh, dummy. Hey, Orlovsky, if you were playing quarterback for this team,

you may have zero points. People on Twitter are the best. Hey, ask Orlovsky. You're not about the Patriots, but how about the end zone? Orlovsky and I get the chance to see his mentions. There isn't a lamer group of people than the people that are tweeting Orlovsky. There's nothing creative coming at him, man. Everything's about him running out of the back of the end zone and all that.

I mean, he did have an interesting look, though, with his glasses and that sport coat. The issue was his shoes matched his sport coat. So if you saw his full outfit, I think it got tied together a lot better. But since he's sitting at a desk, you only saw the top. Does that make sense? It's tough. I feel like that's Orlovsky in general. People just see a glimpse of him and they're like, eh.

But if you see the whole thing and you meet him, he's awesome. He is very awesome. By the way, not a lot of quarterbacks who have been in the league a long time can take that back and forth. You know what I mean? Not a lot of people can do that. I also enjoy him. He's really good at calling college football games.

Yeah, he is. He was sitting in that Death Valley dinner in Clemson in the crowd with the seniors. He said it was the most exciting moment of his life after his kid. Marrying and his kids or whatever. I was going to go ham on that this morning i was gonna most exciting moment of your life was playing with those fucking kids yeah it was awesome pat most exciting moment of your life though come on dan come on danny boy dano i like him a lot i like rex too yeah he's a good time hey he's slimming down he's the best

yeah he's slimming down his suit this morning i walked He's slimming down. His suit this morning, I walked in like 5.45 a.m., gave him a little pat on the shoulder. There's a lot of space in that suit. So either that's an old suit from back whenever he was monstrous or he is slowly twiddling away, which could be the case. Good for him. He looks good, though. Yeah, I think so.

Looks very good. He must not be going back to coaching. Remember Nick Mangold said that fat Rex comes out whenever he starts coaching. That is what Mangold said. But every single time there's a potential job talk about, I think Rex, every time I want to be like

Rex, you'd be a good head coach. You're damn right. Rex was a good head coach. He was in the Patriots division, which is always going to be difficult. Went to two AFC championships with the Sanchez. He beat Brady and Gillette, too, in the playoffs. I mean, he lost those championships, but got there.

Nobody else gets him there, though. To the Colts. And the Steelers. Really? Yeah, I was there. Good for us. It's freezing. You played great that game.

I didn't do shit. I don't think of that game. I think I tackled Antonio Cromartie. Maybe you need me in the face. Big shout out to him for that. Can't believe they fired him for kneeling. It's the most recent story that came out about him. Yeah, I think he would be a good head coach somewhere.

I like being around him, man. He starts telling stories because Damian Woody was there yesterday. Damian Woody played for him. So they started telling stories about what it was like and the whole thing. It was awesome. Rex goes to Damian, he goes, tell him about whenever we played. Rex liked this moment. I forget what team it was, and Damian was like, oh, yeah, tell him.

So in practice, I guess, Rex told him, he was like, told the offensive line, he was like oh yeah tell them so in practice I guess Rex told him he was like told the offensive line he was like you guys are the team and whenever we need a game winning uh something I want you to point at where we're gonna run the ball and then we're gonna run there and we're gonna win the game that's our team like that's our team or whatever so it came down to a game where it was like fourth quarter they needed needed a first down. The game was over or whatever. And on film, Damian Woody and the other guy right before the play pointed where they were headed at, pointed right at the guy that they were about to double team, ran right behind him, burst down, ended the game.

Didn't tell Rex until Rex saw the film the next morning. It was like, these motherfuckers. It was awesome just thinking of Rex, just talking over there on the offensive line side of the ball. Like, you know what demoralized somebody? If you point right where we're going and then we win the game right there. Probably just said it in like gist or whatever. And then Damian Woody and the guy like in that moment

when most people could potentially be typing and like, we're going right here. This is what we're doing. Like, what a – that's awesome. And that's the type of thing, though. Your team's personality reflects your coach's personality. And Rex has that very flamboyant, confident personality. I think your team plays a lot better that way.

Or it can be Belichick, who is hilarious, by the way. Guy's just cracking jokes up there at the press conference. Julian Edelman's going to need to ice his arm, needs a massage. Looks like they're having fun out there. Yeah. Oh, I love it. I love that he's that petty. Me too. I mean, he's the greatest

of all time and he's being petty. I mean, what more do you want from the guy? That is a perfect concoction. If you're at the top of the mountain and you somehow figure out a way to put a chip on your shoulder thinking you have to climb higher, that is magical. And that's what happened with him. He put another chip on it.

He doesn't think we have fun. Wait till the next time we play we have a lot of fucking fun was that fun i love it dude and i think that offense will figure itself out by the way i said it on get up i said it on a lot of places i think that offense figures itself out in that team once again we're back but jacoby brissett hey, Jacoby Brissett is a game wrecker. He's all the way back, by the way. Yeah, boy, Jacoby. Imagine if the Steelers had Jacoby. Oh, man.

Yeah, we could probably use that 12 of 24 for 140 yards. Easy. Easy. Did you see the plays he made, though? Hey, you guys came at me first. Game-winning plays he made. There was one with a strained MCL where he runs up into a crowd, backpedals, runs out, rolls to his right, throws a dime,

totter, thank you very much. There's another one where he scoots in there. I mean, he's just a dog. That's what he is. He's a gamer. I'm just angry because there's one thing to have a bad quarterback, which the Steelers have, but now they have a bad quarterback who everyone hates and makes fun of.

So it's just like... Welcome to the club. Bear. Die. Yeah, but mine wasn't the second overall pick of the draft. Oh, fuck you. Whoa. I thought you guys were in the same club. Jeez Louise.

Zito, immediately after saying it, goes, oh my god, maybe a little bit too much for me. Why do you think people... people don't hate Mason Rudolph? Oh, yeah. The internet now hates Mason Rudolph. His post-game presser. Yeah. A lot of people think he shots at him.

He has no idea how to – he's either the sweatiest human alive or he has no idea how to put chapstick on his lips. Oh, jeez. Why are you going after this guy? This is your quarterback. No, he's not my quarterback. He's your quarterback.

Duck Hodges is my quarterback. He's a quarterback. Quick, quick. No, he's not my quarterback. He's your quarterback. Duck Hodges is my quarterback. He's a quarterback. Quick, quick. And Seven will always be my quarterback. He might never come back. You see that beard? He's very comfortable. Yeah, that's what we need.

So the problem with what happened to Ben Roethlisberger, why his elbow's all fucked up, is because he's used to doing nothing in the offseason. He doesn't do one thing until training camp. Obviously, every single training camp. And people have got on him recently for that, and now he's started working out in the offseason, and Skinny Ben's got a fucked up elbow.

Ruined his whole career. So you think Fat Ben is back, and the whole team's going to be back? Fat Ben was the guy that just sat there for that quarterback drill where he was supposed to avoid the pads, and he just sat there and just hit them, right? This new Ben would have been yoga-ing all the way around. We don't need this Ben. Pittsburgh doesn't need skinny Ben.

Were we watching Ben at training camp and he was throwing the ball in the dirt? Oh, yeah, he did look bad. Yeah, he works on his bad throws. He says it all the time. That was on, yeah, the wide receiver. Yes, that's what you guys told me. It was on NFL Total Access and they were at the Steelers camp. And Roethlisberger was throwing, which I was surprised about

because I heard Roethlisberger doesn't throw. Doesn't. And he was just throwing these balls in the which I was surprised about because I heard Roethlisberger doesn't throw. Doesn't. And he was just throwing these balls in the dirt. He threw one into the stands, I think. And I was like, hey, Roethlisberger stinks or whatever.

And they're like, no, no, no. He's just throwing them so that the wide receiver has to work a little bit harder. That's what he told us. How do you think the receivers have been so good in Pittsburgh

throughout the years? Have they? Yeah. What do you mean, have they? Tony O'Brien. Gone. Manny Sanders. Gone. Mark Davis Bryant. Gone. Yeah, but how were they good though?

We're not talking about if they're still there or not These guys all come out of nowhere And all of a sudden just get good Because they're catching balls that are thrown in the dirt Yeah, the Bugatti boys got too big of heads and they had to leave Can't pay everybody Who are the Bugatti boys? AB, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, Le'Veon Bell.

The No Ring Mafia. Whoa. What's your guys' problem on these guys? They shed a lot of blood, sweat, and tear for the Bumblebee Steelers. We are not a happy bunch when winning is not happening. So you're saying the tribe of Yinzers, right? The Yinzer tribe is done. Very done.

Because the last of the bronze. And now it's kind of settling in that, yeah, Miles Garrett's suspended, but you still have a loss to the Browns on the record. And your quarterback got bonked in the head big time. This guy. Bonk. Whack him all. You know, this guy's a victim of an assault.

Oh, so now we're. Oh, man. And now he's a punchline. Now we're the bad guys? And now he's a punchline. Now we're the bad guys? Don't even start, Foxy. Your fucking team. What do you mean? We lost our quarterback.

Fake broken back. No. Oh. No. He wants out of Detroit, so he fakes a broken back. Watch your mouth, all right? You watch your mouth about Matthew Stafford. He would never fake an injury.

He wanted to play that game. Doctors wouldn't let him. Toughest dude in the NFL. You know it. I know it. We all know it. No one knows it. By the way, that's kind of the problem that people are having is that nobody did that.

That he had that broken back. I don't know if that just heals overnight, by the way. He might be done for the year. Let him sit for the year. Might as well at this point. You guys got something in Jeff Driscoll down there. I'll tell you what. The guy's playing.

The guy just sounds like such an Iowan dad. Sound like remember the Titans, that little girl. That's how you watch it. Hey, now, that Jeff Driscoll, he's looking pretty good. He'll take an 18-yard sack on second and two. He was all fucking beat up, dude. Jeff Driscoll's about to have broken back, too. He is.

He definitely is. Do they give – I asked you this question on the radio. I didn't get a real answer. Is Matt Patricia going to give in another year? You have to. You've got to give him at least one more year. I think so, too. I think multiple years, to be honest. This is the most. I think so too. I think multiple years to be honest.

This is the most Detroit thing ever though. Literally, I've said this before. They will hire a new coach. Everyone's pumped up. New coach, new era.

Will you put the camera on you please? Okay, sorry. It's very tough to multitask. I've said that before but this is the most

Detroit thing ever. Okay, new coach, new era. everyone's fired up First season, ah, they only win three games That's tough, you know what First year as his head coach, that's okay Difficult, year two, eh, we'll win like

Six games, get a bad draft pick, that's okay We're still getting our guys We get our guys, we get the defensive line guys Trey Flowers, I think they paid him Ten billion dollars, year three Eh, you know what Matthew Stafford got hurt we gotta give him another year

gotta give him another year year four they stink fire him we don't give this guy enough time new coach start over once again

Jim Schwartz happened to him Jim Caldwell happened to him Matt Patricia we're going on to year what four next year year three next year

we'll give him that I think he's a patriot I think he's a patriot in the next two years you guys need to get Nagy what's that a patriot. I think he's a patriot in the next two years. You guys need to get naggy. What's that, dude? I think he's going to be a patriot in the next two years. Matt Patricia's going back.

Josh McDaniels went back. Patricia might go back. I think they make him leave for a little bit, get some intel around the league, and then they're back as a patriot. We've said this on a couple. Bflow down in Miami, right, in division. Josh McDaniels did it to the Broncos

whenever the Broncos were good there for a bit. Now he's going to the Lions. The only issue is I don't know if Belichick sent anybody. He's not coming back. Let's find out about those four trucks. He's raising his Chernobyl son to be D.C. Oh, come on. Chernobyl son.

Oh, no. You do not deserve that. He's got a great jawline, all right? Give him a break. Just because he got it. You're a terrible guy. I told you.

Will you put him on camera? He's a terrible guy. He's just lashing out. It's that guy on the left right there with the beard. He's the one that just said that. The opinions of his do not reflect that of his employer. I would like that to be next. You guys didn't even play yesterday, Tony. Yeah, it's still this week.

Still lost this week. It festered all weekend. Hey, you guys lost to the Browns pretty bad. I mean, that was kind of tough. Mason Rudolph's the worst quarterback in the league. Easily. I'm so fed up with that piece of shit. Best defense we've had in so long.

How does he not get suspended? I don't understand it. He started it. Okay, I thought about this today. 700 people in my mansion tell me he started it. What's more frustrating as a fan? I have a team that when Matthew Stafford was healthy, had a good quarterback, but everything around him stunk.

Zito has a team that has a terrible quarterback, but everything around him is good. What's more frustrating? I would say that you could win with a bad quarterback, great team. You can't win with a great quarterback, bad team. I agree. You could just have nothing at all. I think it's golf.

Hey, dude. Yo, Keith. bad team. I agree. You could just have nothing at all. I think it's all food. Hey! Yo! Fuck you! Fuck you, dude! It's probably more frustrating for Zeke because you're one player away from being good versus 21 players away from being good. Yeah. It sucks either way. And by the way, that one player

that you need to be good was good at one point in his career. Yes, he was. In recent history. And instead, I was getting benched in fourth quarter. Broken hip. No, that's not what they said. That was Tua. Yeah, it was a dislocated hip there for Tua.

First half, they said, first half he injured his hip. A player need him right in the hip. We're talking about fake injuries. I mean, that's actually. He came back and played the rest of the game. I don't know. Not the rest of the game. I don't know. Not the rest of the game. The last four minutes, he did not.

Last 3.30, he did not, which argue people would say. The most important time. The most important time of the game. He refused to go out. On to the field or off the field? Both ways. I don't know. And then he whispered in his ear like, hey.

Get the fuck out. That's your hip, right? He was doing this. Mitchell, we talked about this going on this week. If you have another fucking nightmare, we got to do something. Did we agree on whether it was your knee or ankle or your hip? It was your hip? That's what I thought, bud.

Well, we're going to put this lightning rod chase Daniel in. He'll be able to turn this home bitch around just like he did when he was starting when you were out. Make sure you tell everybody he was your hip, right? All right. Good luck out there. See, I never understood. You know those bubble guys on the sideline? Why can't they just face that to that and we just hear what he said, you know?

Those sound bubbles. Those aren't real. You know who got it? NFL Films got it. For sure. NFL Films has the big boom mics that hang down over everything. So every once in a while you'll be having a conversation

on the bench and you're like, man, that mother... Boom mic. Man, what are you got? Where'd you come from? The guy's got like a 10 yard... Upper deck hanging down.

And he's got his headphones on too so he's like, yeah, yeah, go, go. You were saying? Yeah. Where the fuck did you come from? He's like, I've been back here. You know, Zito, maybe you guys could win a game if your kicker would get off TikTok and start hitting some field goals.

Was he on TikTok? Yeah. Yeah, the whole operation was. Eddie Pinero. I was going to be a kicker for them. That video did very well. 200,000 views. Good for Zito, by the way.

Hey. Nice job, Zito. Good for you. Good for you, Zito. be a kicker for them that video did very well 200 000 views good for zito by the way hey he hit it i was supposed to teach him how to kick better that was back whenever the goose island or whatever it was was having the drunk kick yeah the 43 yarder right 43 yarder to win beer for the rest of your life or whatever yeah i was gonna teach zito how to do it connor was holding for him terribly so i kicked connor out very terrible i come in i hold for him i was gonna have him kick one and then i was gonna critique right because it's hard to tell you how to kick until you see somebody kick and it's like all right let's work with your swing as opposed to what an actual swing is supposed to be because you don't know zito steps up and just bombs it i'm like yeah you're

good bro 72 yard in my first time it's cuban no it traveled eight yards into a brick wall what was that you think just people wait what anybody from from Cuba could just kick a football wall? First and foremost, baseball players. Big baseball place. Big baseball city. Nah. Yeah, Cuba, not notoriously known for their soccer team. It's all boxing and baseball, pretty much.

Yeah, it is incredible. So your incredibly racist comment is just not accurate. Entire time I've worked with him, he said he's great at soccer. So I just get down with it. I like to get the ball around. Well, I remember he said, what did he say? Six months of training, he could be in the Olympics? Zero months of training.

Oh, for the Olympics. But he also said he could start for a World Cup team immediately. On defense. On defense. Yeah, let's put that in there. Why is that, Diggs? Because he's... No, no, he said that.

Not me. Yeah, go ahead, Diggs. What were you going to say? He definitely could not do with that. Why not? Why are you saying that now? Because he's No, no. He said that. Not me. He definitely could not do with that. Why not? Why are you saying that now? Because he's obese? Fat? Whoa! Come on!

I lost two pods! I lost two pods! The disrespect in here! Oh my god. Worst show of all time. Ty Schmidt. From myself, Connor, Nick, Diggs, Todd, Ty, Zeet, Foxy, and Canadian Gumpy, welcome back, bub. We appreciate you for listening, man.

You're supposed to tweet me something. Tweet me a fun fact about Ohio State. Yeah. Chance, right? And these need to be actual facts, not Zeta facts. What does that mean i mean yours are normally completely fucking false pigs do get sunburned ty schmidt play the copyright free music please សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you.