The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1344 - Peter Schrager, Quentin Richardson, Bubba Watson LIVE In The ThunderDome, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys discuss tonight’s playoff games in both the NHL and NBA, as well as all the different rules changes coming out of the owner’s meetings, a...nd the flag football decision with players being able to play in the Olympics, and more. Joining the show is ESPN NFL Insider, Peter Schrager to chat about the Knicks and Pacers in the Eastern Conference Finals, the Olympic flag football conversation, and everything else coming out of the league meetings. Next, 13 year NBA veteran, former three point contest champion, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, and ESPN NBA analyst, Quentin Richardson joins the show to break down everything happening in both the Eastern and Western Conference Finals and how he sees both of those matchups playing out. Later, 2x Masters Champion, current owner of the RangeGoats GC in LIV Golf, Bubba Watson joins the show in the ThunderDome to chat about his career, his battles with anxiety, where LIV is at right now, where it’s going in the future, the differences between playing on the LIV and PGA tour’s, and much much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’re off the next two days for the PGA Championship, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, The Thunderdome. On this Conference Finals Tuesday, May 20th, 2025, this program starts now. Sports! Our wonderful one tonight, the Conference Finals begin for the NBA and the NHL. In the NHL we got the Oilers and the Stars. The Oilers are the last hope for a Canadian franchise to win the Stanley Cup for the first time in 2,000 years. Good luck to the Oilers alongside Connor McJesus and the boys. Oh never mind that is tomorrow. Tonight is Panthers and Hurricanes. We don't even get McJesus this evening. We get the Static Cup
Starting point is 00:00:42 Champion Panthers and the hurricane uh tonight which is going to be amazing and i'll wait to see the canyacs show up 20 000 strong and Raleigh and the Florida Panthers trying to defend their standing cup run after knocking out the Toronto Maple Leafs in devastating fashion uh annihilating all of Toronto and basically every Canadian alongside of that ass beating i got a chance chance to see the glorious Bob Rood last night at Monday Night Raw. He is a Maple Leafs fan. He is a proud Canadian.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And his interaction with me was basically me walking up to him doing one of these and him going, I want to talk about how I got to work right now. I think that's how a lot of Maple Leafs fans feel. This was supposed to be the year. This was going to be the run for the Maple Leafs, but instead the reigning, undisputed shout to Paul Heyman Stanley Cup champions the Florida Panthers who add Marshy in the middle
Starting point is 00:01:32 of the season continue on an epic run of dynastic proportions nine-year NFL vet Darius J Butler has been a Florida Panthers fan since the very beginning he loves the hockey and right now he's in the middle of a run with Lordo that can only be described as spectacular. How do you feel going into the Kaniacs, brother? They just knocked off a Capitals team that I don't think any of us expected the Capitals to potentially lose.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Now the Canes were favored in that particular matchup. But heavily favored. And they certainly did their thing. But the Capitals, with Ovechkin, with the run that they were on, we're gonna have a magical run and the Cane said ah ah the Hurricanes may be built to go on a run this year are the Florida Pounds is gonna be scrappy enough and tonight are they gonna get the dub we asked Darius J. Butler I think so of course and I know you said you
Starting point is 00:02:17 thought it was the oil is year people belief in the maple leaf but now it was these guys all along I think we were going to repeat especially with the trades that we made the job that GM Bill Zito has done another GM was signed to an extension that was a knuckle puck that was a snap buckle pop Chad that guy we traded for from Chicago obviously Marshy coming over so yeah I would be worried if anything the rest vs. rest conversation you always have because the Cain's will be fresher, but I'm not worried about my guys at all. They're ready for this moment. Third year in a row we're in the Eastern Conference Finals and we kick off tonight.
Starting point is 00:02:55 So I'm excited about it. Orler's Stars will be tomorrow obviously as I was saying at the very beginning of this and the NBA Timberwolves Thunder tip off the conference finals obviously for the Western conference this Oklahoma City team has been awesome all year best in the entire NBA all year long They hadn't proven it though in the playoffs were they gonna be able to take the next step and become a championship pedigree team is SGA who's been spectacular been phenomenal been great at hoops obviously for this Some people say he's a free throw merchant but nonetheless he has been great for this Oklahoma City team. Will they be able to get the job done in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:03:31 And then for the Minnesota Timberwolves, Ant's the next one. He's the face of the league. He's the next guy. Well is he gonna be able to go on an actual playoff run when all eyes are on the NBA? Yes, both of them have shown up. Now they're in the conference finals. Who's going to stop that guy? Okay. Who's going to stop Anthony Edwards? Good question. Yeah, they're probably calling up the Dortcher chamber, Lou Dort. That's their guy. I got to take it down. Listen, maybe. Okay, baby. Who's going to stop then Julius? I mean, this team right here, the Minnesota Timbers, I don't think a lot of people are giving them any respect to go on a run, but then you watch them play and it's like that guy's will to win And will to compete is one that is spectacular
Starting point is 00:04:10 And I know SGA is the exact same and I know this OKC team's good But this is like a sneaky incredible matchup here And I think what? Ant is gonna be able to draw from this Oklahoma City team and the way he's gonna make them react and act I think in This is an advantage. I think the head game is always gonna be the mental game is always gonna be in Anthony Edwards' corner and I'm excited to watch this. Congrats to both of them making it to the conference finals. It's the future of the NBA being represented. Obviously Ant, SGA, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Halliburton.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Okay these are four young stars that are about to carry the NBA for the next, I don't know, 10, 15 years, all doing battle, and I think the NBA has got it right. Ratings are up. Ratings are high for the NBA. Ratings are high for the NHL. And also, news just came out, ratings are higher than it's ever been for the WNBA.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Congrats, Kaitlyn Clark. That's right. Nice. It's crazy how it's always the fever. Seems like, or it's a game that the fever game is leading into. It's crazy how that works. I mean, you know, what are you going to do? Proofs in the pudding kind of. You're going to grow an owl who can pull up from the state next door.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And light up an entire arena, every arena. And I think the reason why I feel obligated to talk about a sport that I don't know enough about, okay, the WNBA. I don't know enough about it. I was never able to play it. Okay, I know it's a different style of basketball. I know it is a different sport.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I watch the Fever Games. I don't get a chance to watch many other games. What she has done for the business in Indianapolis, okay, I've gone to a couple of Fever games pre, we'll say BCC. Okay. Okay. Before Caitlin Clark, I went to a couple Fever games. I was lucky to go. Had a great team. Fever have had a great franchise, great team for a long time. Won, like 2012. Yeah, won like back in, I got here 2009. So like the Fever, good program, great fan base. Okay. We're talking, I don't know maybe
Starting point is 00:06:09 7,000 10,000 people at those games, you know in the middle of the week in game bridge arena Since she has arrived every game that the fever play in that place is packed That means local businesses are having a lot a lot of uptick What she has done for the Indianapolis economy in a league that I don't think has been known to be such a needle mover Economically wise to the cities. It's like worthy of respect. Now granted, all last year she had to prove herself to, I'll say, the OGs of the WNBA. It's all going to be the same as it was in college. It's all going to be the same.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Everybody gets talked about this whenever they're a rookie, yada yada yada. I think she has finally earned the respect and credibility of her peers. But the league knows. Every team she plays against knows, they're moving into bigger arenas so that they can sell more tickets. The WNBA is putting her in the prime time locations because they understand what it is. And I think for the WNBA, they need to continue to capitalize off of her and she's the right one. She is the right one. Great moxie, great personality, full dog, full dog. She's been in that gym all off season.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Little clips will come out from the fever of her just putting up a hundred shots or whatever. It's all off season, all work for Caitlin Clark. We're lucky to have her here. WNBA is certainly lucky that she's there. They average either 2.5 million or 2.7 million. One of the two. The tweet said 2.5, the graphics said 2.7.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And then it peaked at 3.1 million or something like that, which outdid. Yeah, the Sunday Night Baseball, which was Mets Yankees. And that was the best Sunday Night Baseball viewership they've gotten in like seven years. I think that was like 2.4 million. OK, so I remember in the off season, Angel Reese's podcast, they were talking about like, hey, we might hold out
Starting point is 00:07:41 or something like that. CBA, yeah. Yeah, with the new CBA coming. Now, obviously we are an athlete-led show that are coming from an athlete's side, sticking up for athletes more often than not. Also happen to be okay business person. I think 10, 15 years from now, maybe 20 years from now, they'll look back at the business
Starting point is 00:08:00 that this little doofus group here has done and say, oh, those dudes were probably 10 to 15 years ahead of everybody else. Respect business, love business, been doing business since fifth grade when I was selling cigarettes for 50 cents. So like I enjoy the activity. When you have a CBA, you're trying to negotiate a fair amount of money to employees from employer. Like that is what the goal is. When league is losing money and you come out and say, we need more, we need more, we need more,
Starting point is 00:08:27 it's just a bad look, you turn people off immediately. But there's an opportunity now with this particular season, with how things are going, especially with Kaitlyn getting as much. And by the way, you can be jealous or hate Kaitlyn, whatever you want, you should at least acknowledge that she has a chance to take us to the promised land now. Like if these numbers continue to be what they are, if Caitlin Clark and the WNBA continue to
Starting point is 00:08:47 outrate these other sports, Disney, ESPN, TNT, you name it, these people are gonna shut out bigger deals for the TV deals. Adam Silver obviously, Commissioner of the NBA, also the Commissioner I believe of the WNBA, is a great businessman. He's got about eight billion dollars or something for the NBA whenever their ratings were allegedly in decline. It's like the WNBA has a chance to become a very profitable league and I think they just need to acknowledge that it's the CC train that is going to take them there and also the quality, the product, good. Yeah product is very not I don't know what it was like okay I didn't follow every once I did go to some fever games BCC enjoyed it and everything like that
Starting point is 00:09:26 but I think sports getting better the eyes are getting larger younger kids younger girls are watching because of her and it's like why not the WNBA taking a leap into becoming a profitable business for all parties which is good for the players so whenever you're talking about holding out and everything like that I think you got to get to a point where there's money to be made and then once the money is made it's like now we got a profitable business now we're running the shit now we don't have to do the three on three now we Don't have to worry about these other things because we see these contracts that they're sounding a king Clark signed for the WMBA And we're all offended by that's peanuts
Starting point is 00:09:55 We're all offended by because it's like two sweets that are being sold for one game to come watch Caitlin Clark is her entire salary It's like that's not fair to Caitlin Clark at all But I think Caitlin Clark sees the bigger picture wants to leave like, that's not fair to Caitlin Clark at all. But I think Caitlin Clark sees the bigger picture, wants to leave WNBA better than whenever she got there. And obviously I think Angel Reese is a part of this with how big her personality is and how well she's known. But it's like, right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's good for sports, the more eyes on all these things. And I think obviously as a lot of girl dads in here, it's great that that is where it's headed, but it just needs to be acknowledged by everybody that there is a driver behind it and it happens to be a bucket from Iowa in Caitlin Clark. Yeah, that's why I just like the argument is stupid. You know, like you can, you can say whatever you want, but it's very obvious. And I think even the WNBA as like a whole,
Starting point is 00:10:40 like their, their, you know, front off, like front league office, I guess if you will, like they might not their their you know front off like front league office I guess if you will like they might not publicly you know they have publicly though they said hey all these games are prime time yeah exactly WNBA all the Fevers games are prime time. They got more prime time games the Lakers had. Yeah definitely more than the Colts have. Definitely more than the Pacers had. Yep. Legit and she fills up a stadium in an arena more than anybody else. She's and I had somebody tweet me This the other day before we talked about Caitlin's debut You better talk about the biggest star in Indianapolis this year or whatever
Starting point is 00:11:12 And it's like I'm not good at talking about that W I don't know enough about the WNBA to talk about it, but I do know enough about business I do know enough about a superstar and Caitlin Clark is both of those things and she has the work ethic to back it up Like this isn't just gonna be a flash in the pan about a superstar and Caitlin Clark is both of those things. And she has the work ethic to back it up. Like this isn't just gonna be a flash in the pan. This is gonna be for the foreseeable future because of how hard she works. And here in Indianapolis, how get-able it is,
Starting point is 00:11:33 like get-touable it is in Indy. She's drawing Ohio, she's drawing Kentucky, she's drawing Illinois, Michigan. You got people traveling. I mean, I's even traveling. You got people traveling to come watch here in Indiana, and then every other arena's the same damn thing. She has home games in every arena she goes to, and it's a wonderful thing.
Starting point is 00:11:54 It is a great thing for sports, and it does feel like more and more people are starting to understand. WNBA definitely, to your point, more primetime games. They get it. Some of the pundits might not be there yet because I think their OGs around the league don't just wanna just hand over a torch to a young buck that's coming in. I understand that completely.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But it's like at some point, if you were to rally around this and everybody was kind of like to promote this, it's like then your league potentially becomes, and the numbers are saying now for first weekend, we're in a good spot for the WNBA. Yeah, and hopefully like all the other stuff doesn't fall on deaf ears and like everybody kind of
Starting point is 00:12:26 acknowledges it too. I think it will help like the college game building stars there as well like a Juju Watkins but even the discourse around the WNBA like there were a few guys yesterday on the internet talking about it and it just brings more lights to the game in general I feel like and also hammers on the point like hey let's focus on the basketball instead of all the other, you know, BS that can come with sports in general, let alone just the WNBA, just every sport. So this is a sport coming into, I know the league has been around a long time, a lot of great work by a lot of people to have that league for a long time.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I'm not saying that isn't the case. Takes time to get like. Boom. But now it's like you're becoming a league, like a big time prominent draw. Draw, yeah. Yogi comparison, yeah. Yeah, and there's gonna be some,
Starting point is 00:13:13 it's a transition that everybody is gonna have to deal with. Whenever you get more eyes on you, obviously you're gonna get more hate. So we've learned this. But Brian. Bingo. The bigger you get, the more people that like you, you assume, okay? That that like you, you assume.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Okay, that is kind of how it goes. But also, just natural human interaction is there's going to be more people that hate you as well. I said this the other, maybe last week, and I got the quote from Kirk Herbstreet whenever I was going through some shit in the college football world. He's like, hey, the higher you climb the mountain, the windier it's going to get. You know, like that is kind of how it goes. The more popular, the bigger you get, there's going to be more eyes, more people are going to like you, more people are going to hate you. And I think the WNBA is currently experiencing that. I think there's a lot of people that are experiencing for the first time an entire arena potentially hating them. That has happened in many massive leagues in the past. But now the WNBA is starting to experience that. So I think there is a little transition here. Everybody kind of has to get used to it and then once they do that it's like let's roll with this thing because Caitlin's gonna play for a long time. Yeah. Angel is hopefully gonna be able to play for a long time. There's young superstars coming out of women's college hoops that are gonna be able to carry some things. It's like they got a real shit here. They got a real opportunity
Starting point is 00:14:18 here I think and I hope they seize it. I legitimately hope they seize it and I'm happy that Indianapolis is in dead center of it Love hoops love hosting people and Caitlin Clark has brought a lot to our city and to your point Ty and yours D but 41 of the 44 games are on national television exactly They're on Ion Network last year and it was like the third highest rated WNBA game That they had all season most national TV games for a single team in WNBA history most national TV games in franchise history It's like well, obviously the second one would lead to the third one there But I like that we're just putting every sort of staff as well that we have out there But it's a real deal
Starting point is 00:14:54 They are a draw and whenever you have a draw you have to understand that it's a draw and you have to take advantage Of that and the WNBA is doing that shout to them for doing good business It'll be good for everybody and you mentioned like the league being around for a while and now it's, you know, approaching like a new stratosphere. And I feel like this is almost like with the Saudi leagues that are happening, like the Saudi soccer leagues and like live, like the era that those leagues are in right now, they're kind of trying to get to where the WNBA
Starting point is 00:15:18 is now where like everybody is bought in. The league is very established and now everyone wants to have eyes on it versus before We're like maybe it wasn't as popular the things that were going on with other sports might have been you know Even better and now that they have a Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and you know There's superstars they got a lot of stars room yeah, and that's Caitlin is the super no yes That's what these other leagues have been trying to look for. These new leagues that are forming,
Starting point is 00:15:50 they're trying to poach massive superstars because they know that what comes with superstars are ratings and eyes. And that is what is happening with Caitlin Clark. And it's happening with other people in the league as well, but never to the scale of Caitlin Clark. And if we can say the proof's in the pudding, but there's legitimate numbers that you can compare to each other that show you
Starting point is 00:16:10 the scoreboard. Everything for ratings is going down except for football, right? Pretty much. Basically live television ratings, basically either stagnant or going down. Yeah. WNBA is having a, like that's a massive deal. Huge uptick. Like I assume in their front office in the executive office I think they share offices with the NBA which is a little bit different than live because
Starting point is 00:16:29 they do have a brother relationship with the NBA so there is always like deals that are being kind of encompassing all of it but watching them kind of do their thing and have their thing and Caitlin being at the middle of it and Indianapolis being in the middle of it is a beautiful thing for us and it might be parade season around here. Yeah basketball might become parade season. Yeah, don't look now everybody on getup picked the Knicks Oh, yeah, and if we've seen anything out of these ESPN Predictions over 22 in the second round in the Eastern Conference. Yeah, what? Yeah, everyone picked the Celtics in the cast Oh for 22 brother. Yeah 0% from the field.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You know, granted, Nick's Celtics, Celtics are ranked champs. We get it. Going to be tough. Cav is number one team in the East. Pacers, who are they? Well, if you did a little research, Pacers are the hottest team in the NBA outside of OKC
Starting point is 00:17:19 since January. We've been banging that drum literally since January, I think, strictly because I talked to Tyrese and talked to the boys and I go Hey, am I allowed to talk shit about you guys on my show? Am I gonna look like an asshole and they go We got good team. We are good We we are finding it right now post all-star break Tyrese didn't make the all-star game One of gold medal has been an all-star multiple times is the franchise player for the Indiana Pacers Pascoe Siakam made all-star again. Tyrese
Starting point is 00:17:45 did not. Bad first half of the year. Post all-star break, Tyrese found his shit, Pacers found their shit, and they've been running. And everybody gets hurt against the Pacers. Yeah. Everybody gets hurt. The playing gets hurt teams. That's because they run their asses out of the gym. They will run you out of the gym. That is the style that they play. Everybody talks about how lucky they get. It's like, what is the style that they play. Everybody talks about how lucky they get. It's like what if the style that they play is actually a part of their strategy in making you not be able to keep up. They're in great shape. They're seemingly more healthy than they were last year. They're confident. They're mature. They've been here before last year with this entire thing. And them taking on the Knicks, especially with the history of the Pacers-Knicks rivalry,
Starting point is 00:18:23 beautiful thing for basketball. Whenever we talk about these sports right now we got McJeez is playing in the NHL. He's the next star. With the stars. Yeah that's a rematch. That's huge. The NHL loves that McJeez is still around right now in the conference finals. You got the reigning champs with an added heel in Marshy to their team. That's great for the NHL the Cainy X 20,000 strong in that arena They don't get nearly enough love and then go to basketball It's like Anthony Edwards must watch both on the court and off the court SGA and that Oklahoma City team is like a college environment down there in Oklahoma City League MVP
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah, and then Pacers next like right now sports are throwing a 100 on the paint. Yeah 500 any 500 is happening this weekend gonna be outrageous. I forget about Monaco F1 Monaco, of course So that's their worst race, right? That's F1s worst race and you guys happen to have it on the same day as the best race in The world in the Indy 500 that's a tough look for you. Yeah, it's easy to compare to remember because you know Everyone's in the morning so you can wash that poop wake up wake up go back to sleep while washing Holy shit, are these guys racing or driving around town? Yeah. Oh, there's a really expensive cars falling single file
Starting point is 00:19:36 Oh shit, and then you wake up in any five hearts 235 miles an hour, brother Partying in the middle our brother party 350,000 people sold out hundred and ninth I might be 400,000 people there yeah maybe more some guy tweeted today that one in every 1100 people in the United States will be in Indianapolis on Sunday traffic's gonna be great getting in now they're certainly fun can't wait for all of us to do that hell yeah yeah we're gonna go to that. Every single one of them. We're definitely gonna be there. I mean. I'd be a Monaco, sorry. Don't say travels dude. That would be the cooler one to go. And the NFL is obviously happening all the time. Football is obviously lingering.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Not just because ex-football guys battle each other on social media, okay. We got enough enemies boys. Yeah. We got enough enemies, yeah we got enough enemies okay we could disagree we don't need to be disgusted with each other okay there's enough people that hate us but this sports media world ex-athletes there's enough with that being said good luck to all parties yeah I don't know how you know what now I'm not real loud real big I came out on Monday and we're all looked at my phone whole holy shit. Everybody hates each other.
Starting point is 00:20:48 We learned a lot. Hopefully we can shake their hunts. Yeah, it didn't sound like it. None of it. And then there was a third, you know, it became a triple threat match on the internet. Yeah, a huge one. We're pulling, we're pulling. City Street Fight?
Starting point is 00:21:01 Yeah, we're pulling for everybody. Hey boys, enough people hate us. Okay, enough people hate us. OK? Enough people hate us. But also, you got to do what you got to do. Good luck. Good luck. We'll get it.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is an Emmy award-winning NFL pundit, insider, and analyst. He should maybe win an award for the draft spectacular. His performance in the draft game alongside one half of the Hammer Cowboys AP tone he won't No, no should though should though. Mm-hmm. Ladies and gentlemen Peter schrager What's up shrags
Starting point is 00:21:34 What's up, man? Awesome opening segment. Uh, I live in new york city, obviously So there's a nix fan perspective here on all you're saying and like like there's all nothing but respect for this Pacers team. Like we watched the first two rounds, you guys wiping out those two teams. And I just can't wait for the series. I grew up in the nineties when it was Reggie and Starks and Anthony Mason. And you guys said Dale Davis and Antonio Davis. So like, this is a celebration of basketball.
Starting point is 00:21:59 There's no will will right now. And especially as much as you want to make the Halliburton like Brunson thing, like they're both dogs and they both bring it every game like I cannot wait for this series Pat. Yeah they have a great uh rivalry because they know each other very well. Yeah friends. They're friends with each other but on the court both hey there's there can only be one of us here. Yeah and I like that Tyrese has that mindset and I love that Jalen Brunson has that mindset it's perfect timing and it's great for the NBA. You guys say say you have nothing but respect Why'd you guys treat our guy Hans like that? New York firefighter Hans like that Shrakes Shrakes. Why'd you do that?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah, that was your trash bag This is I love how Hans handled this first of all I appreciate that Tyrese Halliburton is flying him out here to the game So a lot of people on the internet go Hans just work Tyrese Halliburton is flying them out here to the game. Saw a lot of people on the internet go, Hanz just worked Tyrese Halliburton into some tickets. Did this on purpose. Did this entire thing. I'm like-
Starting point is 00:22:51 Hanz was an industry plant. That's what they said. That's what people on the internet were saying. That was the only negative is like, Hanz worked this entire thing. I'm like- And it's not like Hanz wasn't a game with an accountant or a marketing guy. Of course, Hanz is a firefighter.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Like a volunteer father. Yes, of course, course Hans is a firefighter like a volunteer father Yes, of course Hans is a firefighter He's a hero. Yes, of course the indiana pacer representative in that entire thing is the hero and uh Yeah, i'm excited for this and I think it's gonna be fantastic. I think pacer's in five probably maybe six, you know Maybe six if the boys you guys are so deep You're so deep like I watched that Cav series. We run. I know. It's like 40 minutes to hell.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Nolan Richardson and like Carlisle, such a good coach. So, you know, you don't know who's going to kill you. It's Matthew in one time. It's Nemhart another time. Like you guys are solid. I just feel like this is the next year, man. Okay. So I'll put that get up, put the get up prediction up there.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So when you're up there, you guys have a little pre-production meeting and you go, Marcus, you picking Knicks? Yeah, okay. Bart, obviously you're picking the Knicks? Yeah. Hey, Allen Hawn, I know who you are. Are you picking the Knicks?
Starting point is 00:24:00 It works for MSD. And yeah, it works for, and then you go, well, I'm king of New York. I gotta pick the Knicks. And nobody goes, this is probably not good with how things are going. Was there ever a thought of that? Or are you worried about this happening?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Not one person is like, actually, if TJ McConnell gets in the right system at the right time, there was none of that. No, it was Knicks, Knicks, Knicks, Knicks. And I'm like, guys, that's a horrible graphic. We don't want that out there. And then again, all right, I'm not gonna be the one who's gonna back off the Knicks. I've been supporting the Knicks sinceicks Knicks Knicks. And I'm like, guys, that's a horrible graphic. We don't want that out there. And then again, all right, I'm not gonna be the one who's gonna back off the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I've been supporting the Knicks since I was a kid. I had a Derek Harper Jersey as a kid. Like I'm not the one to not do it. So if one of those guys wanted to, fine. But I work in the NFL and I know all too well when you see Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, you're gonna get lambasted when that doesn't work out. Yeah, the Eagles are gonna win by 30 in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:24:44 All right, Schrags, let's talk about the NFL. League meeting's happening today, vote's happening tomorrow morning on a lot of things. Feels like the flag football thing's gonna be a yes. We, Darius Butler and I, both had our kind of skepticism about whether or not the owners were gonna let these multiple hundred million dollar players Play in an Olympics that could basically just jeopardize an NFL season So they can win a gold medal from what we were told and I assume you know more about this
Starting point is 00:25:15 Jerry Jones was in there saying we need our best shit out there If we're gonna showcase this game to the globe the Olympics is where we need our fucking guys So we're gonna put our boys into the Olympics and allegedly Roger Goodell's behind his wall for the same exact reason Showcasing the game and I mentioned this yesterday And I think it does need to be stated again the NHL at a time didn't allow their players to play in the Olympics This is post-lockout. They were trying to come back. I as a hockey fan growing up in hockey time Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania thought it was the dumbest decision of all time. TJ Yoshi we all remember him in the shootout whenever he was going after it. We all remember watching obviously
Starting point is 00:25:53 heard Brooks go all the way back then and even though that was juniors that was not professional players. A lot of people that aren't hockey fans are watching the Olympics so they should see the best players on earth so maybe they fall in love with the sport of hockey. I thought that was a short-sighted decision by the NHL owners they have since changed that. Thought the NFL was already big enough they weren't gonna do that. What is your lean? What is your thoughts? We're here and one player per team can participate. How do you feel this goes and America wins by what? 3000 every day? That's the thing. I've had a really wild 24 hours on this one
Starting point is 00:26:23 because I came on get up yesterday and I was like, I don't want to see Tyreek Hill get hurt against Latvia. Like I'm not looking to, I don't need Zay Flowers to get injured against Turks and Caicos and then we don't have them all season in the NFL. And I got pushback from people both on the league side and on the player side, the union and the league both want this, and I think the owners do as well. You have to understand, the NFL, as far as league initiatives, two major ones are international and flag football. This marries the two. It is a bonanza of what this could be as far as expansion
Starting point is 00:26:57 and growth goes. And if you go back to the Dream Team in 92, they got to Barcelona, and yes, they won, and they ran over everyone, and it was a wonderful celebration and that was that. But the next generation of players, not only in youth, but also in college and NBA, there was a whole generation that looked to that 92 dream team and what the games brought as far as a global expansion. That's what they're hoping this could be in 2028 in LA.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I think it passes. I think it passes today. I think it is that much of a slime dunk and I've had so many people come back to me after my comments yesterday being like, don't be flippin about this, this matters. And they're hoping that this can really expand flag football and bring a next generation internationally of football fans saying, hey I could compete in the Olympics someday. I might not be able to do it in tackle, but I can do it both men and women's as far as the teams go
Starting point is 00:27:49 It is one player per nfl team per country But if you're the eagles You might have jalen hertz as quarterback of usa You might have jordan maialada on the team representing australia as quarterback and you have yeah you who knows what position you should play something. But the hope is eventually it's not just going to be American players in the NFL and that this could help lead to a great expansion of international players who grew up saying, I remember watching LA 2028 and my country, you know, we've competed against the US and I've always thought I can get there and myself through flag football. Yeah. And also we've got to talk about the academies that have already started in
Starting point is 00:28:26 other countries and you know football American football academies I think in Germany I think there's one in Denmark I think there's some in Spain I think there's a lot of these countries have these academies and flag football is obviously what they're teaching you know the basics for at the at the lower level and to your point about maybe I can't you know fly around hit somebody. Maybe I can't afford pads maybe we don't have a No doubt production of pads where I come from this sport is potentially something that I can compete in I'm happy to hear that the NFL owners and the players are thinking from a broader sense in this entire thing
Starting point is 00:29:00 This is good for the sport as we continue to try to grow it This is good for the sport as we continue to try to grow it You nailed it You can drop a basketball on any pavement in the world and you can get kids playing three on three You could drop a soccer ball or a football in any soccer pitch in the world and you can get that You can't do that with American football tackle football the way it is. You need the pads You need the cleats you need the goalposts But you can do flag anywhere and you can drop a flag football and you can play with men You can play with women you can do flag anywhere and you can drop a flag football and you can play with men, you can play with women, you can play all ages.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And I think the NFL has been really pushing this and they've been pushing hard to get this being a high school sport on the women's side, especially varsity flag football. I was in a commercial pushing that thing. Legit. That was like a big narrative. And I'm like, I love this thought mostly from a selfish reason, like my daughter, I think she's going to, from the way she's running right now, she's got some good wiggle.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Here we go. I think her flags are gonna be tough. And then you think about if it becomes a state sport in every single state, a sanctioned sport in every single state, then you start thinking about college opportunity. That, you know, like, I like this. I love this.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I hope it happens. I played, I played flag in like a college fraternity team and we got run around by like guys who are half our size who just had to play. It's a different sport. Like it's a totally different sport. And I think there's also this incredible deal where there's like a U.S. men's team and the guy's name is like Houch Doucet and they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. The NFL shouldn't get like, we're the guys. like that's good represents and whoosh. I love you. But if Kyler Murray wants to play on the Olympic team I don't think whoosh has a long shelf life. I do honestly feel that he said that he was barren patch Mom's a flag football cuz he knows the Ross here says quote you're talking about at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:30:38 I feel like I'm better than Patrick my homes because of my IQ of the game. I know he's Right now the best in the league. I know he's right now the best in the league. I know he's more accurate. I know he has all these intangibles, but when it comes to flag football, I feel like I know more than him. And I can respect that because it is a different sport. It is. And also the moves are different, but just feels like something Patrick probably could learn. Sure. Yeah. I think you give him a week or two. I think he could probably learn the ins and outs of what's probably good. Lamar Jackson. Yep. As a flag football quarterback or any position. Yeah. Yep. Is crazy thing. Tyreek Hill. Kyler. Kyler.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, I mean you just start listing off these names. It's like who's gonna who's gonna and the move is that dip? The move is the dip. It's not really, obviously this is a big one, but the dip move is the one that we saw out of the men's NFL flag football tournament that they had for like a million bucks happening here in Indianapolis. I think we want to watch it live. I think they could figure out the dip move too.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Like I just, for some reason, I just think the NFL guys could probably figure it out. Hopefully we get a chance to watch. I don't think we're going to have to employ the dip move a whole lot. I think we're going to be able to tell our guys on the outside, Hey, just fucking burn that guy and my homes or shit. What is it like seven Mississippi, five Mississippi, something like that. No, I think that's standard flag.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I think it is pretty quick off the bat because we were watching it yesterday. The Titans were playing the Steelers on the field on ESPN to not the actual teams but in Kids representing those areas in the country and it's pretty snap to rush is that's what I'm saying Lamar though There you go. Iler just doing one of these numbers here. There might be a guy no offense if I say your country right now I'm just I said lot for you. I've already been banned from the country forever so you go ahead whatever country you want okay so there's gonna be a Chinese flag football player who might puke from chasing down just one play exactly from
Starting point is 00:32:38 the market if I fall on his face three times there's a chance that that takes place that's good for the sport I can't wait to watch it congrats us win another gold medal we need need them. We need them. I don't like this. I don't like this arrogance, Pat. I don't like that we're talking about the Olympics. The graphic. We got to work. Hey, we got to at least put the work in. We can't just show up. What happens with the US? We do, but we play the sport our whole life. We put the work in. Yeah. If America doesn't win this, I'll move. Same with basketball.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I'm moving out of the country. To where? Whatever country we lose to? No, wait, we gotta see what that country is. Puerto Rico. Great place, still part of America. I don't know how that whole thing works. It's a...
Starting point is 00:33:20 It's weird. Yeah, it's a... They have an Olympic today. Territory. Territory, but, and I said, cause you only need a driver's license to go there. Sure. You only need a passport.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So I don't really know what the rules are. But I said, I love that America has this relationship with Puerto Rico and everybody said, you American asshole, that's not how good. It's like, all right. I showed my driver's license from Indiana and they said I'm good. They're in the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Puerto Rico's? Boom. Okay, Puerto Rico, I need Puerto Rico. If anybody's winning, it's either the United States or America, if we don't win by 50 every game, I am going to be disgusted. Could be some tough teams in there. Canada is not playing. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:33:56 I mean, you guys don't have a team, do you? We won three straight of that other tournament. That was against D-Bone. Yeah, I was about to say. I'm excited to play. I completely forgot about what Kurt and what you would Curtis Rourke is their quarterback he's slinging it around out there Canada Canada three years a long time some of these countries could get a
Starting point is 00:34:13 lot better you know what happens when kid Canada drops back in Fred Warner was rushing the passer then what all right I just would like all the NFL guys to know that Shregs is disrespecting them. Everybody in here is kind of disrespecting them. I'm the only one who has faith. And Schrags, have you ever? I have faith. Yeah, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:34:35 The Canadian team will be loaded with NFL players as well. Oh, shut up. It's four Don's. How many Don's is it? You don't want to see NFL players? Canadians all over the NFL, brother. The skill positions are just going to absolutely kill. Kid, absolutely kids. Canada to mapletron. That might be Think about that, but who's our DB's all of them. We got Patrick's retained. Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah, he's one of them walking down and who's on the other side probably Gonzalez Derek Stingley and Patrick Schrags. Okay, good luck, Mapletron. Okay, this guy, are you allowed to jam in this thing? Oh yeah. No clue, Schrags probably knows the rules. Schrags, are we allowed to jam in this thing?
Starting point is 00:35:12 There might be a country that doesn't get off the line. I think it's like, it's quarterback, two wide receivers are running back, and then you have one offensive lineman, which I would think is Pene Sewell just drilling everybody across the field and just running up and down. Yeah. I mean, that's what I would think is Pene Sewell just drilling everybody across the field and just rolling up and down. I mean, that's what I would think.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah. Jishraegs, I don't like the way you talked about my arrogance, because that clearly means you have not watched us during any Olympics. I'm expecting us to win everything. A handball, handball, we should win that. We should win handball. We still should win that we should win handball still right dancing speed walk yeah what Australia did the breakdancing still should be talking about it's gonna make its way back I think Reagan you said
Starting point is 00:35:56 that on me I didn't say any names there okay Okay. I don't know if that matters, but he let's move along To gold minutes, especially our women I watched those high school girls also a promo weekend Yeah, Brazil's got some dogs Mexico as well Diana Flores she put a she's the she's the best and she's Mexico, right? Yeah Yeah I mean, I'm telling you, it's not a division. Yeah, you did. Mexico has some dogs. I believe Mexico won the U-16 or U-18 World Championship. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah, but we're talking about the adults here. We're talking about- You're right. It's a kids' game. Say that! That's what we're talking about. That's a good point. Anyways, so that's two gold medals
Starting point is 00:36:42 that I know America's gonna get. And I like that. It's one one one team word about who? for men proper name Asian Pacific. Oh, okay Temos What's that? Yeah tour poker. Why? What are you talking about? The same as Puerto Rico has a team, right?
Starting point is 00:37:06 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's... No, no, Hawaii's a state. Hawaii's a state territory. It's alright. You should go to Hawaii. You ever been? No, too far. They might be able to represent Samoa. No. What are we talking about? The Oos are in fucking America. What are we even talking about?
Starting point is 00:37:22 Team Oos would be sweet. New Zealand. Way out. Way out. What are we even talking about team? sweet Way up to look I was born in Vegas Okay, so I've been Hawaii. I've been Hawaii very lucky to go to Hawaii always dreamt of going to Hawaii as a kid Especially cuz I watched Pro Bowl back when the Pro Bowl was great. Sure. Okay, everybody This place seems like a dreamland wife and I go out there you get on your maps And you just do a little couple of these, zoom out. Boy, you're fucking way out there in a tiny little, it gets a little nerve-racking. You gotta zoom back in real quick and be like, where's the land? That is the perfect place. Hawaii is the perfect place.
Starting point is 00:37:57 All the islands have their own. It's amazing, but they're part of us, brother. Okay. Jesus. D-Bud, did you not know Hawaii was a state? What happened? Yeah, I knew that. Come on, man. You're from a military family. Two of them. Yeah. Just because I am majority Italian, I don't think I could play for the Olympics for Italy.
Starting point is 00:38:15 You could if you got citizenship. Yeah, especially because you haven't played for an Olympic team yet, right? Isn't that part of the thing? If you've already been on the Olympic. You guys are being very, very... Didn't Cat play for Puerto Rico? Yeah, and plus, Tony. If Tony showers in spaghetti, they just give him that.
Starting point is 00:38:28 All right, let's move along. I don't know if that's how the Italians work. Schrags might know a little bit more about that. Anyways, we're winning a gold medal in both flag football things. And Schrags, I don't want to hear any negativity about any sport. If it's speed walking,
Starting point is 00:38:41 the dancing stuff with the thing, all of them, we want to win. Let them learn. Hey, I bleed America, Pat. stuff with the thing, all of them. We want to win. Let's learn. Yes. Hey, I bleed America, Pat. I'm with you, buddy. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Exactly. I like that. That is what we're talking about. Thank you, Schrags. Other countries are good. Well, I just don't live here. So. Well, that are not as good as us.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah, not all of them. Especially not flag football. Yeah, exactly. Jerry Jones said, we want to win by 100, don't we? We want to fucking hang three triple digits on these teams. Who's covering Jamar Chase? Who's covering Tyreek? Bingo.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I don't know if Tyreek's going to make the team though. I am a little bit worried about that. Who's covering Jameer Gibbs? Bingo. Oh my God. No one. I mean, maybe the Lions have a good year this year, maybe. I think we're in a little super.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Well, he wants Pen A. Sewell, guess what? One player per team. Jameer Gibbs ain't making the team. Who's coaching that team? Us? We're not letting that USA football group do this, right? No. They embarrassed the entire country.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I think it should be Dan Cable with an American flag tank top on the entire time. Yeah, I like that. Or Kit Rock. Yeah, and a cigarette. Well, Kit Rock's halftime, every game. Yeah, but he could just be. Graves, D coordinator. He's definitely American but MCD. Gravel ain't a
Starting point is 00:39:51 coordinator from Texas. Can I give a suggestion? Maybe. Why don't we bring out, out of retirement, Bruce Arians represents the US. He's our coach. I would love that. Like V8. Bill Parcell's making an appearance, wouldn't be bad. By the way, I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. I would love that. What'd you say to D buts point pen a soul was born in America Samoa So I think he's probably be on that team do we should have like the secretary of state be the friggin I don't know who that is
Starting point is 00:40:30 But I do know that Dan Campbell and kid rocker wear an American flag and there's a chance that is leading the boys What that's AI that's not real Does he have MCD real. I thought they were prepared. Does he have a MCDC on his nose? Grocco bad. Five hundred. Yeah. You gotta read. You gotta read. Sometimes the hands were screwed up. Yeah. That's American baby. We're winning the gold. You don't think we're winning the gold ball with the ball to batting, digging, digging, digging, digging, set the boogie, set up, jump the boogie every half time. Yeah. Boys are ready to go go. Congrats us and sucks to be you other countries Yeah, flag football is ours forever. Now, let's get back to the league meetings flag football is in yes, okay
Starting point is 00:41:11 Tone has a question for you about your thoughts on one of the rules potentially being changed. Yes, Greg I heard you make a good point this morning on the Lions proposal of the you know Playoffs being seeded just by record and not by division winner And you know brought up the the point that not all division record or sorry division schedules are created equal Let's say like for the Steelers this year. They have to play the NFC North The Patriots have to play the NFC South those two divisions those two schedules are not created equal So in that case, I believe you brought up last year that the NFC North had to play the AFC South or the NFC South or whatever, and all, and all three NFC South North teams, sorry, made the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:41:51 So in that situation, you think that's why this won't get passed? Yeah, I think, I think there's enough voices pointing to that saying that all schedules are not created equal. So the winds are not going to be weighted the same. And what I, what I said today on get up and I'll say here, is NFC North, their NFC division opponent last year was the NFC South. They ran rush out of it.
Starting point is 00:42:10 They beat them all. And then they went to the playoffs, and the Lions, the Packers, and the Vikings all lost in the first round when they played other playoff teams. Of course, the NFC South was not loaded with playoff teams last year. They just had one with Tampa Bay. And that's going to be the case a lot of times. The other argument is every year, this time of the year, May, a fan or an owner can look to their team and say, we got a one in four chance of hosting a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:42:32 When the Lions hosted that playoff game two years ago and Mike Tirico was on the call and the Rams came in and M&M did the opening, like that's an amazing moment for a city. The Browns have not hosted a playoff game since 1995 the Jets since 2003 The Raiders have been to Oakland and then now Vegas since 2003 like to take that away because well The Jaguars won an extra game or the Dolphins won an extra game out of the vision I just don't think there's enough juice right now and there's enough passionate people within the NFL So as much as this was tabled and there's been arguments made that the Vikings got screwed last year, I just don't see it getting passed over the next two days because of the way the schedule makers have the schedule done with the two
Starting point is 00:43:10 different divisions. And also the fact that the owners like the ability to maybe say we hosted a playoff game every single year, they have a chance of doing that. And also the fact that the playoff ratings are through the roof. Why would we, everything like change? Yeah, exactly. So that's, that was our original take and then there started to be a little well, thrown 500. And it went into they earn it. And it was like, Oh, maybe there is an argument to be made. And with how loud it's gotten, it's like, well, maybe in the room, where it
Starting point is 00:43:33 happens in the voting, that they are actually considering this, this feels like one the table for another year. This feels like this. I would add that week 17 and 18 last year, there were some dogs on the schedule of two teams that weren't relevant or one team that maybe had a playoff spot already secured and they didn't really care about the seating. This would change that.
Starting point is 00:43:53 This would say, hey, you need to be finishing in the top three for wins if you want one of those home games. And that would keep everyone competitive to week 18. But I don't know if there's enough energy in the room to make that happen. In the room where it happened. I want to be in the room where it happens. Hamilton Hamilton super cultured. Look at us. Look at us
Starting point is 00:44:09 No big Broadway. Yeah, I love Broadway. Actually, I don't mind those live shows. Oh, yeah, like hey Yeah wife and I forever in New York. We'll go we will go to as many as we possibly can I love the weird microphone things on the foreheads too Cuz they change costumes and it's like kind of sticking down and every once in a while you can see who's the big sweater, who's not a sweater, because that thing's popping straight out through their hair, still picking up their voices though somehow perfectly. What was the last show you saw? I think it was Jay Sud was doing, what's that Robin Williams? Dog that poet side that poet side was off Broadway Jay said was doing a cool that boat society in a small little theater Jay said at one point was
Starting point is 00:44:51 Next to us in the stands in the stairs while doing it got a chance to meet him afterwards. So while he's incredible Yeah, absolutely. I just like watching people do their shit whatever their shit It's the best in the world the best in the world are doing it every night and they do it eight times a week so they do the matinee performance also like I'm always amazed I live in New York we try to go but the Tonys are June 2nd like I want to go to the Tonys forget the sports emmys I guess he has like several times in the past I don't know if he is this year but yeah no Patrick it's good that's his name right yeah he's doing he has right oh it's one of his greatest characters what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:45:31 yeah I started with the typing right? that's how I yeah he's talent that guy's real talent in there yeah I just like watching people do their shit personally that's just if they work their ass off they have to perform in front of people especially whenever you're in there it's like I could see every slip up that you have I could see every voice crack that you have and you talk about them Doing it like eight times a week or whatever. It's like three shows a day sometimes back back to back I think we talked about coop coop did this he did a run in London in London and it was like eight shows a week Or something. Yeah, he just like absolutely crushing. It's like I don't know how you're I
Starting point is 00:46:02 eight shows a week or something. Yeah, he just like absolutely crushing. It's like, I don't know how you're I just saw Glenn Gary Glenn Ross, which is a famous one. And this is the cast if you want to just know who you get. Obviously. Who? Bill Burr. Bill Burr. Kieran Culkin. Okay, from succession. Then you had a Roman Michael McKeon, who you would know he's in like his final time
Starting point is 00:46:27 Things and then voting Kirk who is better call Saul the four of them Oh just an unbelievable show and I saw it like my wife and I was like you want to go see it like you just See that on any given random night. That's Broadway. It's amazing. Yeah, that's why everybody hates the Knicks Yeah, that's why everybody likes the Pacers. Yeah, we don't have Bill Burr stand up there with Kieran and Du Bois every single night. Okay, that's not an opportunity. We got Caitlin Clark though breaking records, you know, down here. Yeah, pretty good. Very good. Very good. We got a lot of Pacers and six Applebee's. Yeah, we got Topgolf. Yeah, we do got good Applebee's. Yeah, well, I think that any chain you want. Yeah. So, I love Indianapolis. Great city. Great city. Great place. Great city. If you haven't been come come on down.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Well, it's an awesome city. Easy to get to great downtown walkable and I've I go to the combine every year. I look forward to it. It's great. Well, the combine is a whole different animal. Everybody's here. That's like you're I mean that's heading in the draft season. I mean that is 500 Shregs getting yeah different animals need to to come to any 500 at least once in your life I don't think you need to go a bunch of times unless you fall in love with it But you need to at least do it one time as you expect sold out this weekend
Starting point is 00:47:34 It's easy to fall in love with it. They're throwing that out just to be I looked I Looked at flights cuz I got no plans my world day. The Knicks are playing the pace I looked at flights as I take my son like you can't get a hotel room or a flight to Indy this weekend. It is between Indy 500 and the Knicks. Like it is New York to Indy, no chance. That's right. We don't want you over here anyway. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I know. We want haunts. We need haunts. We want haunts. We want New York firefighters. Yeah. We want heroes coming here. That's right.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Shreg, it'd be nice to have you out here though. Anytime you want to come. We can find you a hotel room by the way. I think we know a couple people. You can stay with Conner too. Yeah, you can stay at Gumpi's house. Which does suck. So he's not going to be here. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:48:12 You could use my apartment if you want Pete. He's got a penthouse too. He's got a... Conner's living like a king of Indianapolis. Yeah, and Gumpi too. Gumpi's got a 5 TV setup in his living room. I don't know if you guys... Just dial that up this week.
Starting point is 00:48:24 It's phenomenal. I FaceTimed with Gumpi last night. He's like, look at this setup. I got Paul and he just turns and it's just five TVs across the wall. Tell me you're betting on too many sports without telling me you're betting on too many sports. You can stay there. You and the boy can watch literally everything. All right. Last rule change that's potentially coming. This one's confused me a bit. So maybe you'll be able to explain it better. Go ahead Ty. Yeah, Shrinks, can we just get some clarity on the new onside kickoff rules? What they can now declare at any time when they're down, they're moving it up a yard because only 6% of the onside kick
Starting point is 00:48:58 attempts were recovered. What's going on with this and how much should we expect this to actually change? We vacillate as a league and I say we, because it's, it's the media in addition, because you want to make it safe for the kickoffs, but you also don't want to eliminate special teams. And obviously it's close to this show's heart, how important special teams is. The onsite kick became a nearly impossible thing to convert last year. So this modification, which is being presented would make it potentially a little easier to recover onside kicks for the kicking team.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And yet I think you're now constricting the field in a way that it's changing things again. I'm not sure it's going to pass if that modification is going to be presented in the room. It just feels weird. So you see how the kicking team is one yard off the line there. They're going to move them up to the line. So you see they're one team is one yard off the line there They're gonna move them up to the line So you see they're one yard off one yard off one yard off They're gonna now be allowed to move all the way up to the line where the ball is being kicked from I think they should let back foot be online. Oh, so you know two extra yards there So then it's only a nine yard kind of run up there. I
Starting point is 00:50:01 Hate it all You know for the minutes inside kick because I appreciate the fact that they wanted more returns I appreciated the hybrid dynamic kickoff I appreciated all that but the onside kick was such a special point yeah and the NFL will say we'll sacrifice the onside kick so that we get maybe a thousand more kickoff returns throughout the rest of the year. We get a little bit more explosion. Their angle is that they're trying to save special teams,
Starting point is 00:50:29 trying to save the kickoff. Feels like the onside kick might be impossible to save. Feels like this one might be over. But he can always get lucky and he can always be in it. And shout to Chuck Pagano kind of letting me do surprise onside kicks basically whenever I wanted. So those were good times. Those were fun times. I mean those were, I felt like I was really a part of the game.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I was like, alright, not only do I just come out here. You were. Yeah, it was a huge moment. Yeah, definitely. It was a pick. You were a weapon, dude. Yeah, it was. No doubt. It was a cool feeling too.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Knowing like, cool. If I check this. Is that common? Like would a coach give a green light to If I checked this myself- Is that common? Like would a coach give a green light to the kicker like that? Is that common or is that just like a very Chuck thing that like, hey, I trust you and like, you're my guy? Had to prove it in practice.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So I knew like every practice rep was like more important almost than the one in the game. Chuck needed to see with his eyes, the ball go into somebody's hands on our team. And then he needed to see this. He needed to see everything work, needed to see it in practice, which I think a lot of these kickers,
Starting point is 00:51:28 and I don't wanna blame kickers because kickers have a hard enough job and nobody really gives them respect, but I think kickers stopped working on onsite kicks as well. Soon as the percentages get this low, it's like, well, it's just a hit and hope anyways, everybody puts the ball sideways, they just kind of try to spin it and do it.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Like I used to work on onsite kicks, I wanted that ball to be real hot. I wanted that thing to be a jump ball. But to work on that, I'm jamming my big toe into the top of a football. And then I'm also ripping my hip basically. So for kickers just to sign up to do that with less than 5% chance of it being recovered.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Like I don't think guys were working on on-site kicks. Everything just became like a very- That's fascinating. Very blatant. Dude, this is fascinating to me because you also have a budget of your time. You're gonna be punting-site kicks. Everything just became like a very- That's fascinating. Very blatant. Dude, this is fascinating to me because you also have a budget of your time. You're gonna be punting- Reps.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You know, how much am I gonna be doing this? Yeah, you're right. You gotta budget your reps, you gotta budget your time. And also it hurts. Like the high hop thing hurts. I guess it's not a fun thing. You're jamming your toe into the top of it. But if you can get that thing to-
Starting point is 00:52:22 Boy, that's scary. Yeah, because on the hands team on the other side yeah they're standing like this and it's like okay now there's at least a second guess that you can get it haven't seen a good high hop in a long time i've not seen like a great high hop out of anybody in a long time janikowski back in oakland when you're playing on that baseball field he used to take the ball off the dirt and that thing was just like uh it was unbelievable he because he's that lefty too in the weight. He wouldn't even take steps Yeah, just like back up and do his thing that fucker would go through Crosby had a good high up
Starting point is 00:52:53 I think I had a good house We had it was the guy in Seattle who had it in the NFC championship game Ryan John Ryan was that him? It was or was it a kicker? Yeah, might have been Steve. I mean how Hauska. Yeah might have been Hauska. Canadian. Vin and Terry had a great high hop. He's Canadian. Hauska. That's all Hauska. Maybe Ryan worked at Hauska. One of them was. Ryan might have been. Boss does not even. Worst feeling in the world as that hands guy. Did it in college. Went up high. Had to jump my highest. Fully exposed. You know somebody touched you get flipped. It's against Pittsburgh Panthers actually in college went up high had to jump my highest fully exposed you know somebody touch you get flipped is against Pittsburgh Panthers actually in
Starting point is 00:53:27 college flip landed right on my head knocked out told myself never again would I be that guy uh coachman midge asked me in the league I think Reggie was hurt maybe maybe the year he is tricep or ACL and he asked me to be the guy was like coach and be honest with you I don't want to put the team in this position I will not put myself out there for that. I couldn't do it. So, and to your point too, most kickers, when that time comes, we know as a return,
Starting point is 00:53:52 as a hands team, they only have one kick in their bag that that coach is gonna trust me. You can go through the tape, they probably kick three onside kicks in there, so you know it's gonna be a high hop, it's gonna be a spinner, so you had the middle dribbler and all the different options, so that's a headache for like a special teams unit to have to prepare for.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I didn't have the high hop left. I can never get it. Can never get it. Just kicking it right out of bounds. It's like, I don't think this one's in the bag, brother. I don't think this is it. OK, we need one last question before we have to get out of here. D-Bud has a question about a very active off season, seemingly for John Lynch. Yeah, passing out a bunch of money, brought pretty got paid and now Fred Warner got a huge deal making him the highest paid linebacker in NFL history. Any other deals that we can expect around
Starting point is 00:54:33 the league and what went into this deal and this ton of guaranteed money you got? Well, I wouldn't say what's coming next. I'll just tell you this, the 49ers, the last few off seasons have been dealing with crap with contracts going all the way up into the start of training camp And this was a priority for them this offseason to get this done before they got to training camp And it was Purdy it was Kittle and it was Warner They checked all three boxes off the Purdy one came about in a great way because this was Starting really in Santa Clara in a conversation then then at the Combine in Indianapolis at St. Elmo's, John Lynch, Parag Marathi, and Brian Hampton
Starting point is 00:55:08 met with Kyle Strong and Purdy's agent, and that got the ball rolling. The big difference was they got a no trade clause in for Purdy, which the Niners had never given before. Purdy got a great deal, and then Fred Warner was deicing on the cake. We knew Fred Rico Warner wasn't going anywhere. They get them all done, no drama,
Starting point is 00:55:24 they have their three cornerstone pillar leaders in the locker room and they can go and move forward into this summer and try to forget last year which was just a lost season in San Francisco. I'll say this as a guy that got a chance to maybe have a beer with George Kittle at WrestleMania. He looks unbelievable. Not that he never does but he looks unbelievable. So jacked, like so, so jacked. Vibes so high around his crew too, all the time. Always. I think that was right before that deal got announced. So he probably knew what was around the corner.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Congrats all of them. They've earned it. Congrats to the 49ers. This year is seemingly much more positive off season as opposed to a negative one. Maybe they'll be back. Is Christian McCaffrey gonna play? We're a big tree.
Starting point is 00:56:03 We hope so. Yeah, Trent Williams is still playing. That's a good question. What's going on, Trent? All of these guys, they're keeping an eye on all of it. They just wanted to get their guys in and know that this will not be contract talk. So hopefully all these guys will be healthy playing
Starting point is 00:56:16 and on the field come fall. That's awesome. Shregs, we can't wait to watch you cover the Olympics as the Americans dominate every sport. Okay, don't ever forget it. I'm sorry. I just, yeah. I appreciate you. I love having me on.
Starting point is 00:56:29 And I will tell you this. I will never again doubt the Americans when it comes to those five rings in the Olympic games. On this show, on this show. Everywhere else you can tell your real feelings. Here, we're gonna do it. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Nixon six.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Nixon six. All right, all right, all right. You can't even get a hotel in Indiana. Alright, alright, see ya, see ya, see ya, see ya. Shrek's the best. I'm about done with all the text messages from every human that's from New York letting me know that the Pacers are going to lose to them though. Sure.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Walk them. That's what I did. Hour 2 is going to be insane. SPORTS! Hour 2 starts right now. We're lucky to have a great hour two ahead of us. It's not just me, you know, obviously the talkstables here at Boston Connor and at Tiesch Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Con man, I saw the Patriots are favored in 11 of their 17 games. Yeah, pretty sweet. I mean, how's that happen? I think we know how that happens. His name is Mike Vrabel and his name is Drake May. I think we all can understand what is coming for the NFL this year. But yeah, wonderful day. I mean, I had the greatest morning of my life this morning.
Starting point is 00:57:29 So basically nothing can knock me down. And you adding the fact that the Patriots are favored in 11 to 17, that's just the cherry on top. I heard you had a lot of fun this morning. That's good news. No, I didn't have a lot of fun. A lot of fun this morning would be a nice play to flapjacks. It was some syrup maybe. That'd be a lot of fun. What I
Starting point is 00:57:51 had this morning was my fucking world rocked, brother. Okay. I'm sorry. I basically went to an ACDC concert. We could say that. They're on tour right now. They're on tour right now. I think Metallica played at Virginia Tech too. I saw... That place. Earthquake. Registered earthquake. Yeah, that would have been awesome to be there. You know, I'm not like signing up for a Metallica concert. I do like Metallica, but not signing up for a Metallica concert.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Not a big concert guy in myself. Love music. Don't love the whole, all the shenanigans. Getting in, doing it, getting out, going home. There's a two-year-old, a lot of jobs. Traffic. All that shit. Getting in, getting out. Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm referring to sitting in a parking lot. I'm even just talking walking. All of it. Yes, sweating, we're doing the whole thing. Like I love the idea of concerts. I don't personally love going to a lot of concerts. With that being said, that one, I wish I would have been at.
Starting point is 00:58:54 That felt like a cool moment there. Tony Robbins, I saw on his Instagram, he was at ACDC the other night. Wow. He was doing a fake clap, the thunderstruck. I mean, it was incredible. I mean, sand thunderstruck. It was incredible. I mean, sand in my boots. Dude, that festival, see, we should have been there.
Starting point is 00:59:09 That feels like one that we were certainly invited to and certainly should have went to. Getting out of that one though, I saw a lot of, that's the thing. Yeah, you need a copter or a boat to get out of that thing. That's when your jet pack comes in handy. Or you could just hang out with Wiz and Chevy Woods and Will and the boys.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And then you just float your fucking ass out of there It feels like that is something that happens anytime Wiz is around but I'm happy to hear you had a great morning of fun What happened? It wasn't fun, man. My life changed forever. What happened the hammer? Cowboys AP tone is here nine-year NFL fun, huh life changing forever. Did that sound fun? Yeah It doesn't sound not fun. It sounds glorious sounds biblical. Okay So you got a biblical fun morning? No, you can't describe it as fun because it was fun Describe it as fun is I what am I two years old on a shitty baseball team biblical doesn't seem fun
Starting point is 00:59:56 You know like biblical means epic. I always take biblical something bad happened biblicals like epic legendary Something I remember forever something I'll tell my grandkids about it something that's something that is fun No, it's not fun, man. You want to ride this morning on your NFL fan Terry shape baller Lips looking better today. Yeah one day better Good ice pack this morning smaller smaller just this more compact he did walk into this office floating this morning exactly wasn't it he came in screaming he really was yeah screaming from the moment he entered the door through the locker room all the way down the court into the think tank you could
Starting point is 01:00:39 hear Connor yep Connor was radiating yeah and then Gumpi behind him, oh buddy, he's doing his thing with his little flip flop, he's flopping around and then Zito comes running in. The boys represented this morning, they certainly did. Now, let's go to Anadik in Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk is here.
Starting point is 01:01:01 AJ Hawk. Hawker, Connor had quite a fun morning. It was more than fun, man. You can't describe it as fun. If you describe it as fun, it sounds like it was Mickey Mouse morning. No offense. It wasn't. It wasn't a Mickey Mouse morning, AJ.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Do you want to know what he's all jacked up about, AJ? Yeah, I would love to. I think a lot of people would love to know how he is describing it. I think it has a lot of people would love to know what the... How he is describing it, I think has a lot of people confused. We have some breaking news! 3, 2, 1, action! Good transition, talk. Talk what? Tom Cruise on show tomorrow
Starting point is 01:02:08 Tomorrow tomorrow. Tomorrow. Obviously, uh final reckoning is in theaters on Thursday. Everybody is gonna go to this movie. It is two hours in 50 minutes I believe of nonstop right hook, left hook, right hook, left hook, and Connor, Gumpy, and Zito got a chance to screen it this morning at 7.30am because it is a three hour runtime. And they showed up with the juice. I believe Connor cut a promo after the screening to some movie site that might get used somewhere. Connor was floating in here this morning. It was the ride of a lifetime is how you describe it. Yeah, one of the greatest movies I've ever seen. And that is not hyperbole. I've watched Mission Impossible since the inception, since the first one came out. I've watched all of them.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I've seen them all multiple times. Last night I watched Reckoning Part One and then Final Reckoning was today. And let me just say, I mean, there's nothing you can prepare for, okay? Right off the bat, I won't go into it. Yeah, no spoils. Yeah, no spoils. Easy, easy. I have to stop myself. I'm so jacked up to talk about the movie. I won't go into it I'm so jacked up to talk about the movie That's why I gave a 10 minute interview after to the guy who already seen it four times may I add he still? Sat through the entire thing with us because he was so juiced to watch it again. I can't wait to see it again It truly is the perfect movie start to finish. I think that's the only real way to describe it.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I- 7.30 AM you're watching this thing. And I was up at five, cause I couldn't wait to get- That's gotta be the earliest anybody has seen this movie in a day. And I'll tell you what, from what it sounds like,
Starting point is 01:03:34 it is the perfect way to start your morning. I wanna watch it tomorrow morning at 7.30. So I don't know if that guy wants to watch it for his fifth time, my second, but I would go. I would go tonight. I'd see it twice in one day if it was possible. It was that good of a movie and I just,
Starting point is 01:03:49 my heart goes out to TC for everything he's done for us. Shout out to Paramount, obviously giving us the opportunity to screen that beforehand. I got, you know, a family and also home from Raw. I was not able to make it this morning. The boys represented in AJ, I cannot wait to talk to Tom Cruise. That'll be on tomorrow 12 30 Eastern. AJ Hawk, Tom Cruise joining the program. Yeah, that doesn't uh, I mean when
Starting point is 01:04:13 you say it out loud, it doesn't feel real. I mean how since I guess probably since the first time I joined you when I was a guest on your program back in the day, I think I mentioned Tom Cruise, probably my very first ever appearance with you. So what a what a weird strange trip this all this whole situation is huh? Yeah it certainly is we we had a meeting with Paramount folks you know to set up the screener and everything like that and shout the FOSSO shout the FOSSO kind of navigating the waters here piecing the things together you know FOSSO kind of piecing things together what we heard is that Tom Cruise has definitely heard us
Starting point is 01:04:45 talk about Tom Cruise is what we heard. So there was a whole moment in the middle of this call where I just stopped everything. I go, so Tom Cruise knows the program. And they go, oh yeah, he has seen a lot of your stuff. And I go, oh, let's just take a moment here. And then Ty's in the back. Yes, yes, like screaming in the back.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah, it's gonna be Yeah, I'm excited. I am very excited tie. I know you're Zeke top You got a little zipper burn there whenever it old hard not to I mean I've been living and dying with TC since I can remember To be honest we can go back to taps, you know, which came out like nine years before I was born I think I've seen every single movie in TC's catalog multiple times and I mean we're gonna get to talk to the guy I think we should we should maybe clip you talking about Tom Cruise Just all the time that you have because it's always the same exact thing. He did it again. Yeah See did it again and then every clip we see From the promotional run of all the shit that he's doing. It's like this guy's 60 years
Starting point is 01:05:45 What he is he's a madman. He is a complete psychopath We'll do anything for the the masses entertainment and like I mean he he never loses He never fails every single time and he just keeps pushing the 12 billion at the box office. That's pretty good 12 billion largest Largest non-Marvel character all time box office. 12 billion. I started doing my research on it. I can't believe we're going to talk to this guy. I should show some respect. Let me do some research on this. That's going to be 13 by the way. Probably more? I just mean in the next month. This one's good, huh? It is. It's so, you mentioned all the footage, even that little sneak peek there.
Starting point is 01:06:27 It doesn't even encapsulate what this movie's about. It's way more than that. Well, shout out to Tom Cruise. Joy and program. Love you, T.C. Love you, T.C. He's probably seeing this. They said he does know the program.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I'm excited for him to experience our show, too. Yeah, I'm excited for how that's gonna go. I think it's pretty normal, probably. I mean, the dude's been... he's been the biggest star for the past four decades, right? I mean, if he's 60 years old, I would assume he's been acting before he was 20. He was in some of those old school movies. Yeah, like the the longevity is unheard of with what this guy does. So there's been a lot of talk about him chit chatting with the movie theater employees and like
Starting point is 01:07:02 thanking them for what they do and then diving into the convo about you know popcorn how much they like popcorn he needs two big things of popcorn when he's at the movies I think he literally just wants to promote the movie industry like everything about him is just movies we need to promote the movie theaters and in the way he eats popcorn it's a man it's comfortable around a bag of popcorn. Yeah, exactly. He's comfortable with popcorn. I mean, there's hang time on the Colonel. May lose a few Colonel's. Yeah, actually.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Eating the popcorn? What? I'm out. In fact, it's all he eats. That's his entire diet of popcorn. You said did, did. D-butt. I just want to see the video.
Starting point is 01:07:38 If you question if Tom Cruise is eating popcorn again. Look at this. You can clearly see the popcorn. Boom. Boom. It's in his cheek right there. Boom. Two of them. Maybe three in there. We don't know. Slight of hand. There's clearly see the pop. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, two of them, maybe three in there. We don't know slight of hand. There's a ton of his mouth is fucking that guy right next to him is going, Jesus, this guy's
Starting point is 01:07:52 playing catch with popcorn with himself. His mouth is I promise you, I can't believe you just said that. Me and you are about to just ask Ryan Clark RG 3 this. No, talking about T. C. I'll go there. We told him, well, there was a third party jump in there too. That will probably be tired too. We don't need that. Boys, put swords down. There's enough enemies. All right, there's enough enemies already. Boys go see mission possible together. Yeah, seems like Tom Cruise be able to make that squash all beasts. That end all wars I can't believe I did not see a single to D butts credit he is great at grace act maybe grace actor of all time did you see any popcorn actually go into the mouth or is he just don't let's watch this already you guys never seen an alpha eat
Starting point is 01:08:48 popcorn yeah exactly I guess that's what I've never seen sorry you've never seen the biggest star on the planet eat popcorn before yeah it doesn't look like us mark eating it okay it looks a little different fair fair boy I wonder how DB gets sometimes do you think he stops like... Sometimes it hits his stomach. I know I'm saying like you think he always does the full like full throw or do you think sometimes he plays with... I think sometimes he tosses like three or four up. He gets them all. TC football. NBA conference final start tonight. Can't wait to watch. Who cares at this point?
Starting point is 01:09:26 We got Tom Cruise on the show. Should we watch some highlights like Top Gun or something? Should we run that clip one more time just to make sure it is real? Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news! 3, 2, 1, action! It's running form. Gets out of the block so quick. This 10 is faster than anybody's combo
Starting point is 01:09:46 oh yeah that pencil died by the way on the old school it's a mask i wanted for halloween now yours is much worse i know not tc oh my god that was crazy jeez
Starting point is 01:10:04 actually hanging from planes Oh, that was crazy Actually hanging from points Geez it's real. Yeah, so good. Hey, what do you start doing that type of shit? I like the stunts pretty much like the first Mission impossible I'd say probably before that but like mission impossible to there's like it opens like with a massive massive like mountain and TC scaling that thing by himself with no ropes or anything. Alec Honnold? Yeah yeah yeah yeah free solo in this bitch. So he caught Alec Connard. I would assume he and Alec are able to have conversations at us people with emotion feelings you know fear of guy guess because we watched that Alec Honnold thing and I was my palms are getting sweaty watching a documentary
Starting point is 01:10:47 that was filmed years ago in thousands of miles away from where I was sitting. But you watch his, like, everything that hits the internet for his promotion, I get nervous for him. And it's every single scene. That's what it sounds like. Every single scene, there's something, bananas, and he's doing it all. Yes. He's flying the helicopter
Starting point is 01:11:06 He's flying the plane We showed it last year like a hundred times like the big set piece from the the first movie was when he Rides the motorcycle off the mountain and then parachutes. Yeah, they were like Tom's done this like 11 times today He's gonna do it like nine more times. Probably. He's just I mean, he's just a thrill seeker. He's a junkie Look, we watched it, you know the other thing, and he's like I'll see you at the movies He's piloting the the plane and then just goes into a nosedive right after that. I mean like he's he's a helicopter pilot He flies planes he base jumps he does this type of shit like he just he saves the world he does He saved the business at see and hum and that's that's another thing like that's why you say like oh this guy like
Starting point is 01:11:41 That's Ethan Hobbs. And that's another thing. That's why you say, this guy, all he cares about is the movies. He legitimately, Steven Spielberg said it, is without Tom Cruise, people aren't going to watch movies in movie theaters anymore. COVID would have killed the entire industry, and he legitimately saved the industry. See you at the movies is how he ends everything. He wants that to still forever be a thing. I feel like he thinks that is a part of of his duty almost as the biggest movie star on earth and I think
Starting point is 01:12:10 this popcorn thing he's doing right now is like, I'll see you at the movies and also let's buy some popcorn. Yeah, this isn't right now. He's always done this. He's always loved popcorn. No, I know that's what I'm saying though. I feel like that's always been his thing. Like, hey, do the movies. What if he's not, what if he's faking the popcorn? He's deep. I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him.
Starting point is 01:12:31 That's even better. I would be even more impressed if he's faking this. He's a good actor. I'm gonna ask him tomorrow. Great actor. Yes, he is. I'm the conspiracy guy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah, but you just, you're fresh off an Ethan Hunt. Ride of a lifetime. Yeah. Yeah. You know why we're saying fun so much to him You know why we're saying fun because Paul Skeen's posted on his Instagram story Yeah, that it was fun to watch the movie early and Connor says I hate Paul Skeen's if I want to say something was fun I wouldn't say it was mission impossible final reckoning fun. It was a ride a lifetime It was right hook left hook right hook left hook. What's fun about a
Starting point is 01:13:07 thrill of a lifetime? It was like that would be considered fun. No, not enough. Paul needs to say more is what you said about Paul Skeeter. That's verbatim and I know I'm not sure if he's the one posting all of his stuff, but no matter what, like you don't describe final reckoning as fun, okay? That's just, that's not. But it is fun. It is way more than that, you know? You're not gonna describe something that changes lives
Starting point is 01:13:33 in the futures of my life specifically as fun, okay? It is something that is almost undescribable. The only thing I could probably compare it to is like ayahuasca. I assume that ceremony of mother ayahuasca is very similar to what Final Right is. Exactly, because you can't describe something that changes your life. A life-changing event, that's what you're saying. Here's Paul Skeens. I had an opportunity to watch this last week. Wow, that was a lot of fun. Huge compliment. I kind of get it, Con. Con, man, I kind of get it con con man. I kind of get it. I do I understand where you're coming from
Starting point is 01:14:07 What's everybody's deal? It kind of knocks it down like this is not a to be honest when you want you with I'm sorry, you did change Connors life. It looks like I can't wait to see what kind of does Maverick all of us as a group if something like a bone would have said man, that was fun. I want to punch him Cuz we're all like reinvigorated afterwards. Yeah, it was fun, I would have punched him right in the face. There you go. Because we were all like reinvigorated afterwards. It's all relative though. You've got to consider it from Paul Skeens, a guy who,
Starting point is 01:14:31 for him to describe something as fun, that basically is a transcendental life changer. And he was going to be a fire pilot, understands the entire thing. And also, his life right now, not a lot of fun. No, not fun at all. You know, he won run, he gives up, and they they lose Yeah, that's supposed to be a legacy day. So he had a moment of happiness With mission impossible fun. They should have said that that would have been better Barry his team
Starting point is 01:14:54 I had a moment of happiness in my life size team and give a shit. They don't even have a manager or an owner They don't care. He said if he said happiness, that'd be a whole different story He watched this after this and he was like God saved his life. That was fun. He said last week say I'm on the skein I know what skeins is bringing to the joining us now. Ladies and gentlemen is not Tom Cruise. That'll be tomorrow The NBA's version of Tom Cruise ladies and gentlemen, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson. Yeah. Sorry, we got a little carried away there. You had to watch all that. We got Tom Cruise
Starting point is 01:15:30 on the show tomorrow. It's absurd. Hey fellas, I appreciate you inviting me here. I'm salty that I missed the invite to the 7th of 30. I'd have been there Bush-eyed and bright-haired. I'm a Mission Impossible huge fan. I can't believe it. No, except the text. You didn't, you chose not to go, right? We texted him. No way, no how. I can't believe that.
Starting point is 01:15:50 I'm over there. I'm feeling Connor's energy through the zoom. I'm ready. I was there. That's fun. That's fun stuff. No, see, that's why he's feeling my energy. Cause I'm not sitting here like,
Starting point is 01:15:59 oh, I had a really fun time at Mission Impossible this morning. No, that wouldn't translate to Q Rich all the way over in his own little- Orlando. Being like, oh my god, I gotta go see this movie now because I'm not sitting here like Paul Skeen saying it was fun. Okay, Q Rich, I'm kind of disgusted that Fostin invites you to this next time. Next time we have, maybe. I agree. Jimmy Pataro's giving a speech. You need to think about what Fost did to cure it in this entire situation Yeah, especially with TC on on the morgue. I mean, it's a big deal. Let's go to tonight though, please It's hard to not
Starting point is 01:16:43 It's hard to pick one, man. I remember. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. It's hard. It's like all of them give you something and you got a special feeling about each one of them, man. All of them are fire to me. I just know that I've been watching. I'm like, I've been watching Citizen's Inception
Starting point is 01:17:00 and I'm disappointed I wasn't invited to the 7th 30 this morning, but I will be seeing it when it comes out. I gonna be I'll see Tom Cruise at the theaters as he said Thursday Thursday. It's coming out. Okay, let's talk about tonight conference finals start tonight. Obviously the West will lead things off here Timberwolves Thunder and SGA Obviously a big part of the conversation is the next generation of superstars is now representing the NBA in the conference finals. How should we be viewing tonight's game? How should we be viewing everything that's gonna happen in this particular series?
Starting point is 01:17:32 I mean, I can see why everybody's saying these two guys can potentially be the face of the league and all of that stuff. And this series is gonna be big for me. I like OKC. To win this series, I think it should be a six or seven game series, highly competitive. And I wouldn't be surprised though, if Julius Randall can continue to show up how he's been showing up and also Rudy Gobert. I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota could go ahead and push them. But what things are as they are, OKC opening up at home, I don't know if he's been paying attention. That's the loudest building in the arena.
Starting point is 01:18:06 This playoffs, that building gets nuts. And I've seen Indiana, I know what they bring. I've watched New York, I know how they bring it. But I feel like that OKC crowd is the closest thing to a college crowd that we got in the league. Bingo, that's kind of how I've been describing it. It feels like a college atmosphere. Team feels like a college team too. Like a
Starting point is 01:18:26 young team obviously very together. Ant-Man has enough to will the Timberwolves to six seven game series. That's why you think it's gonna be seven games. Do you think it's just his will or how do you feel about matchups here whenever you talk about the two styles of play? I think he's that special and I think if 23 years old man if he could do this he's beating a lot of people to even get the chance to get to the finals. I don't know the names off the top, but I know if he could get there right now,
Starting point is 01:18:53 he ain't got no choice about that whole face of the league. He's going to at least be one of them. If it's multiple or whatever, because some people say it's more than one right now, and if that's what it's going to be, he's definitely going to be one of them. If he does this right here and gets these guys to the finals, that nobody expected that, but those guys in Minnesota possibly. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yeah, Q Rich with SGA, if you were Minnesota, I guess, what would your game plan be to try to at least limit what this guy could do? He seems like he's everywhere, makes every kind of shot, really kind of the facilitator. What would you do defensively to try to slow him down? Now you gotta do, you gotta send different looks at him. Sometimes you gotta double him. You gotta send different different coverages and
Starting point is 01:19:30 do things to try to make him uncomfortable. Cuz I mean, one thing about SJ he's proven he's gonna get 20 to 30 points. No matter who he's playing against, no matter what the matchup's been. He's done it so many times during the season and also on these playoffs. And I mean, right now, he's facing again. He's going against some young guys as well It's not like he's playing against some some super veterans did they outnumber him and experience and things like that? So I look for SGA to have a good good series I think obviously it's gonna be that you know the battle of him and him and on and Edwards
Starting point is 01:19:59 But I need those those up some support guys to come through and I look at what SGA has to support. He has more. He has more depth. He has more guys that do more than actually doing the Ant-Man does. On that note, D-Bud has a question. Yeah, you kind of answered it. I was going to ask you who had the better supporting cast, but with the supporting cast and those role players, what's the difference playing on the road and then playing at home
Starting point is 01:20:23 going into these type of games? I think it depends, man. It depends on the group of guys you got. I've been on teams where obviously guys play great at home and play better than they do on the road, but I've also been on teams where we play better on the road. We feel better banding together and going against the hostility. So I think it just depends on the group of guys you got. And I think that shows itself, you know, throughout the time of the season and throughout these playoffs,
Starting point is 01:20:47 they know who they are and they know where guys play better at. And I think it just depends on, you know, the group of guys you got. OK, let's go to the East now. Pacers in five, maybe Pacers in six. Only people on ESPN saying that. Yeah, I know you were a Nick there for a while while And you're probably loving the vibes coming out of New York City for the Knicks Which I am as well anytime you see an entire city come alive because of sports. It's a beautiful thing I was over there in New York whenever they Jalen Brunson hit the three to seal the last series the entire city was alive obviously they seal their
Starting point is 01:21:22 Beating the bus itself this place goes crazy like that is a beautiful thing for sports that is a beautiful thing for New York City that is a beautiful thing for anything in anywhere whenever that takes place. Knicks fans on television just assume the Knicks are gonna win this okay they didn't think the Knicks were gonna beat the Celtics but now Pacers definitely no problem Pacers best record in the NBA in the Eastern Conference since January This hasn't just been like a last couple weeks last month type thing This has been about six months now worth of great basketball coming from the Pacers
Starting point is 01:21:59 Why do you think all the New York fans think the Knicks are gonna win this? Why do you think everybody on TV thinks the Knicks are going to win this? And is it strictly the bias because it's the big city taking on little old Indiana, Q Rich? No, I think it's got some merits. I mean, listen, if I had to pick, I would pick New York right now, too. But saying that with a caveat, knowing just like I said in the Cleveland series, this Indiana Pacers is everything you just said about them and more and they to me the things that I think they don't get enough credit for is they cohesiveness that the togetherness they play with as a unit and how they they have six seven guys
Starting point is 01:22:34 that you don't know who's gonna kill you the worst it's not always scripted like a lot of the other team you say shut down this guy that guy you could have a better chance these guys want six seven eight guys out there any of them could get you 20 or possibly 30 on any given night. So I don't say that lightly, but I do say what Jalen Brunson has done, the position he's putting himself in, the way he's scored in the clutch and in the fourth quarter and the way he's been able to lift this team, I think he's put himself as obviously he's not going to be the MVP. But in these playoffs, he's been the best player in these playoffs to me with what he's been able to do No matter what the situation was no matter how well he's playing or what how bad he's playing when that fourth quarter came
Starting point is 01:23:14 He'd been money. He's been somebody that you could go take to the bank and he's gonna get you something You don't know how he's gonna do it. He's got a little body big body But like he's figuring things out and he's been unstoppable when it matters most. So when it comes down to a series that I think this is going to be a six, seven game series as well. But when you got a closer like that, that's the kind of thing that could tip the scales in this series. Doesn't mean that it will, but I mean when he's doing what he's doing, that gives them a high likelihood. I love watching this next game play. Yeah, I love everything about it because everything you just said about Brunson,
Starting point is 01:23:46 but all of them, all the guys in the fourth quarter lock in. And it's like you find out who are the dogs and who's not. Now, obviously what they were doing to the Celtics and beating the Celtics, people are going to mention Tatum's injury. They were up seven in the fourth whenever that injury took place. They're the reigning champs. New York knocks them off.
Starting point is 01:24:01 It's been a hell of a run for this Knicks team. And Knicks Pacers in the Eastern Conference Finals is a beautiful thing. Classy. Classy. Yeah, I think so. I think it's a beautiful thing. And we're enjoying the hell out of it over here. We know New York is as well. Should be a great thing for sports as a whole. Now, it comes down to who's going to smack the wood. Tone has a question for you.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Yeah, Q, we know all the scores and the stars, but a lot of people don't know about the defenses at all. Who do you think is the best defense left? Who has the best advantage there left in the in the NBA playoffs? I Mean statistically I want to say it's okay see that's what that's what they've really how they ran away with their record in the season the versatility of their defense the Multiple 3 and D wing guys they have and then you know Hardenstein and check kind of anchoring it in the paint. But I mean, when you go one through four or five, one through three or four, they got a lot of versatile guys that could guard a lot of different positions and
Starting point is 01:24:54 do different things defensively. So I think it would probably be okay. See at this point, smack the wood brother. Got to do that. All right, let's talk about some things. I let you slide the first time that is crazy That's what you guys do in basketball. Don't you smack the wood the wood? That's what you guys do in basketball That's your basketball thing. It's like the floor. No, they bought the wood
Starting point is 01:25:14 You guys get your feet on the wood you guys bop the wood rub the wood rub the wood smack the wood the wood. Lick the wood. Hey, hey, hey. I can't even give so many A's. Seems pretty racist when you said that there. I don't want to get into it, but there's been a lot of racist talk in sports media. I don't want to dive into it, but geez. I referred to B-Bud because the last time it was some meat or wood. Whoa, pause, bro. Pause, dude. Hey, yo, what's this guy's problem? Jeez. No bread. Anyways, sometimes you got to whack the wood a little bit. Yeah, get the wood. Every time you're going to do that's your guys sporting on mine.
Starting point is 01:25:54 I mean, Jesus, let's talk about things that aren't the playoffs. Shall we tie as a question for you? Yeah, Curich. I don't think we've talked to you since the lottery and we mentioned it leading up to it. I mean, people don't want to say it's rigged, but LeBron said he understood the assignment when the Cav it leading up to it. I mean, people don't wanna say it's rigged, but LeBron said he understood the assignment when the Cavs got the first pick.
Starting point is 01:26:09 The Bulls getting the first pick with D-Rose. And then even like I think yesterday, Shaq on his podcast said that David Stern came up to him before the lottery and said, hey, do you wanna play in warm weather or cold weather? And he said warm and will and behold, the Timberwolves get the third pick, then Charlotte, then Orlando gets the first pick.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I don't want to say, you know, do you think it's rigged? But how shocked were you when the Mavs got awarded the first pick? I think they had the fourth longest odds ever in the history of the lottery. And also do you think that they'll hold on to that pick and draft Cooper flag or do you think they'll use that to potentially you know trade for a guy like Janis or something like that Yeah, I was definitely shot when they got it I was I was I was excited and happy for for Nico and that fan base after everything has gone on obviously has been well
Starting point is 01:26:57 Documented but as far as like the whole is it or isn't rigged? This is my thing when everybody says that the NBA is rigged, you know how many players, how many front office people have been let go from the NBA? And this is why I say, let's stay out there doing something that I don't know about. I've never seen a huge group of people like that.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Everybody be able to keep a secret. When people leave on good, bad terms, or different, I feel like if it was something like that, somebody would have come out on a record at this point and say something to dispel that because to me it's too easy. Everybody talks. I feel like I was in the league. I've been part of the NBA since 2000 and I would know something. Somebody would have said something even if even if I wasn't the person in the room.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I would have known somebody to know somebody like Like we not that big a group of people. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, that's the part that's tough for me to believe that it's this big thing going on and everybody's just keeping their mouth closed. Like, come on, man. We watched First 48, somebody always talk. Quick to First 48 really.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Yeah, fast. Let's bring McDonald's in the room, it's over with. Yeah, two different rooms. Hey, did you hear what he said over here? This is what we already know. Lion. Oh, if that's what he said then BOOM! BANG! Played you both. You're both going forever. Yeah, it is uh, verse 48 exposed a lot of what I thought was real. Is it? You know, and then I think it also taught a lot of people you look out for yourself in there. And to your point about the secrets, um, there's a lot of things in the world that people think,
Starting point is 01:28:26 you know, that whole thing. You're putting a lot of faith in humans. You're putting a lot of faith in humans to not pillow talk, to not just wanna, you know, brag about knowing something. And in the world that we're in, everybody wants to get in front of a microphone and say something that's never been heard before, seemingly. So a lot of faith in humans if they're keeping that secret.
Starting point is 01:28:44 And also, I don't know I guess Dallas deserves it For trading Luca, but I don't if that would have gone if that would have gone anywhere. There would have been some storyline Yeah, nobody was saying Dallas before They take a Cooper flag for sure I He's gonna go to Black and White. They taking Cooper Flags too. They taking Cooper Flags for sure.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I just, I assumed it was in the other direction. It's like, hey, this guy could be a generational player. We don't want him going to Utah. We don't want him going to Washington. Geez, Ryan's team, you know what I'm saying? I love him, but they won like 12 games this year. Like, you know, we don't want him to just go wither away in the cold and never to be heard from again.
Starting point is 01:29:20 It's a beautiful state. Yeah, I know. I know, fastest growing city in the United States. It's the Lakers. It's the Lakers thing, you know. You know who got the number one pick when Anthony Davis got traded to the Lakers? Who's that? Pelicans. And now who gets the number one pick after Luka gets traded to the Lakers? Who's that? The Mavericks. So you build up the LA Lakers, the
Starting point is 01:29:40 biggest, second biggest franchise in the NBA to the Celtics. And then what do you do to the Mavs? It will give you a Cooper flag. Yeah, but you see, this is the thing. You, you believe- X-Files music playing over there as he's talking. You need the X-Files music over the back. All day, every day, all day, every day.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Now let's talk a little bit more about, you know, teams that aren't competing in the playoffs. Go ahead, comment. All day, every day, except for today, competing in the playoffs. Go ahead. Yeah. All day every day, except for today, because there are some terrible things being said about Tom Cruise's popcorn consumption. Cure. So you might've missed, but he eats that popcorn.
Starting point is 01:30:12 But looking at the off season completely, you rich, there's a lot of conversation. Ty mentioned Janice, uh, the sons KD feels like the Celtics are going to be making some moves. The Sixers, maybe even the Clippers the Nuggets who knows But do you think that this is gonna be a very active? Offseason when it comes to NBA players kind of moving homes and the league kind of changed a little bit And do you think any of that has to do with this draft? It feels like being considered more of a stronger draft with some top talent up there
Starting point is 01:30:44 Anytime you have somebody like young has come out and it's a possibility that he could be moved and obviously the KD situation is looming and everybody believes that he will be moved as well. So I mean when you got two all-timers, two top 75 guys just on the slate to be moved in the offseason, you know it's gonna be a big offseason because those dudes are what you call seismic activity. Either one of them, anywhere they go, that's like a huge move in the NBA and it's gonna be a lot of pieces that move along with it.
Starting point is 01:31:14 And anytime those teams go, wherever they end up, you see some of the other teams depending on where they end up and how good those teams are. You see other teams try to go and make moves to try to counter that or try to put themselves in a situation to be ready for that. So I think it's definitely gonna be a big off season of moving around in a lot of player movement led by Giannis and KD.
Starting point is 01:31:34 I like it. That's always good news for us. Anytime big things happen. Like that Luka trade, you would see how people are like, the NBA worked it. Because when Shams fires off that midnight tweet that Luca got traded to the Los Angeles like Anthony Davis also traded nobody even really that wasn't even a part of the story everybody thought Shams phone was
Starting point is 01:31:54 hacked and everybody was talking about the NBA for what the next three days yeah that was the night of the rumble that literally that yeah it was right after a rumble so everybody was talking about the NBA that hadn't been happening remember there was conversation about the ratings the NBA is kind of falling into irrelevancy for some reason yada yada yada then the Luca trade happens and it's All of a sudden LeBron and Luca are the new tag team that the entire world is talking about for good reason I mean we we obviously were excited about it
Starting point is 01:32:21 Everybody was kind of pumped up about it and I think the NBA from that point on had like a hell of a, all the way to now, it's been a hell of a year in this entire thing towards the end. So you can see how people think it was a work. Adam Silver, master class. You would see how people would think it was a work because how positive it was for the entire league of itself. So you could see how that would be an easy conversation
Starting point is 01:32:42 for people to have. I can see it, but I mean, it's not like, you know, Nico, it was obviously you trading a young superstar, but you got Anthony Davis and you were going to pair him up with Kyrie. So they weren't going to be in the lottery at any point in the near future if Kyrie stays healthy. But I can definitely see how the story can be built. Yeah. Hey, Nico likes to do what?
Starting point is 01:33:01 He talked about it. What wins championships? Q Rich, what did Nico say? He said he ain't lying. Smap the wood. Smap the wood. Yeah. Smap the wood, bud.
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Starting point is 01:33:25 Good luck to your Knicks. It sounds like you're pulling for them in this series like everybody else. Just know that little old Indiana is about to run everybody off the court. That's what we're going to try to do. And we appreciate the hell out of your time. Yes, sir. Any time, fellas. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:33:39 You still, you play pickup at all? Nah, I don't move around. I shoot though. I like my Achilles. I'm nervous to go do anything. Said I've seen too many of them. I said when Brandon Jennings when I was with Detroit with Brandon Jennings set then got his I was there when he got his surgery and
Starting point is 01:33:55 stuff and the doctor was looking at me. So how old are you now? Like 38 39. Then he was like, yeah, you guys are the ones that bought me my Lake House. He was like, we get what the weak guys guys, if you want to get in there, he was like, every other week somebody pop one. And I always kept that in my head. I was like, yeah, I never did that in the league.
Starting point is 01:34:14 I'm not about to do it now. I have to plan around. So I feel like anybody wants to shoot, I'll shoot your face off. But that's something you always have right shooters will always have a shot ain't going nowhere like riding a bike all I do is get a couple warm-up shots calibrate wherever I'm at the wings where this bad and whatnot and then I'm gonna light you up we need you to come into the Thunderdome we watch Steve Nash Steve Nash maybe two bottles of wine deep at
Starting point is 01:34:40 the time he just got done filming the mind the game podcast and And we go, Steve, you want to play a shooting game? Because I haven't shot in like 11 years or something like that. He said, I don't really do that much. And then he gets, he goes from like six feet. Oh, it goes in, gets the ball, backs up two feet. Goes in, backs up two feet. Two feet. Splash, splash, splash. He goes, yeah, I think so, I think I got it. Goes into the
Starting point is 01:35:07 corner, splat. Ten for ten, ten for ten. Didn't even hit a rim. And he's drunk, the guy was drunk. And it was like this is unbelievable for this to happen. So we need, and Tyrese Halliburton, same exact thing. He came in here, I think he won 15 for 15. Kind of turned the season around. Legit. I think that could potentially be a documentary that needs to be talked about. We talked a lot of shit to him too. We were talking a lot of shit. Because he was having a bad go there for a little bit at the beginning of the year. He goes 15 for 15. He starts talking shit back to us. When was that was that in January yeah I think so just so Q rich what we're saying is we need to see if it's just
Starting point is 01:35:50 all NBA guys just coming here and fucking don't miss or how am I missing shot how are we missing so many shots in question is the hoop bigger here I don't get it you guys are just unbelievable why what so you won't miss right when you're no defense you're kind of standing in a place You're gonna make that shot like I watch these NBA warm-ups guys I've never heard of or just like seemingly 20 for 20 all over the court You guys all do that and what's the difference just a little bit? By the time you get to the NBA man, you've done you've done that most you shot the ball so many times
Starting point is 01:36:22 If you anywhere even guys that get into the league that aren't the greatest shooters, by the time they spend seven, eight, nine, ten years in the league and you doing this as a job and you going and shooting every day. Every time you show up to work, you shooting. When you go to work out, you shooting. Come on, man. If you don't learn how to shoot at some point, you just, hey, you should have did something else.
Starting point is 01:36:41 But like, I've been shooting, man, since I was four or five years old. So to me is never going nowhere I'm always you know, like like Stevie like Stevie on a strip. Give me a little stretch Give me a couple little warm-ups at the end. Let's get it cracking. All right, we got a game for you We'll give you some wine too. If you want we gotta get the NBA guys a little drunker Yeah, yeah, I get the NBA guys a little bit more boost up we got some vitamins in here to change your altitude maybe the ball gets a little lighter and And I'm gonna hey we will bop the wood too. Oh, yeah, we're gonna play some D It's been unbelievable watching these guys shooting here, yeah, it's a different game
Starting point is 01:37:18 Yeah, Steve Tyrese Halliburton was having bad year bad year not shooting Well, people were on him like it was bad. He was having turnovers. Yeah, that's how bad it was. I mean, he broke the record this year, I believe, for most games, like 10 assists and no turnovers, and he was having like five, six, seven, eight turnovers in a game. Yeah. And that four point game that he had on that Friday night against Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:37:42 One for nine. He was having those in the beginning of the year. And nobody understood. I don't think he understood why. I don't think anybody understood why. And I don't know if he had already turned it around or if they were in the process of turning it around. But when he came here, it was like he was shooting in a bigger hoop than everybody else.
Starting point is 01:38:00 And he was backing up. He was about two steps behind the line. Exactly. Just chucking it up. Like what he did the other night from the logo or whatever, he did that in here seven straight times. Didn't even touch the rim. And I'm like, jeez, this is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:38:12 And Doc Martens, too. Yeah, he looks, yeah, he's dressed like an asshole. And then Steve Nash comes in, does the same exact thing. It's like these guys are just, they just got it. Yeah. Different level. They have a good teammate, too. I think that contributes. Who's that? Those guys, when they came in here, These guys are just, they just got it. Yeah. Different level. They have a good teammate too.
Starting point is 01:38:25 I think that contributes. Who's that? Those guys when they came in here. They're playing with a pretty good player. Gotta raise their skill. Yeah, I think so too. You're 100% right. Connor has undefeated as a 33 basketball player with NBA guys as his teammates.
Starting point is 01:38:40 So what does that say about me? NBA guy. Great teammate. Boom. He does shoot well. Connor shoots well too. I think you feel the pressure. I think you feel the pressure. Yeah, cause Steve Nash was talking a little shit to you. Yeah. And then when I made one, he was talking in my shot backswing. I'm like, Hey Steve, who the hell do you think you are? Like get this shot up. How about that brother? And then we put like 30 on you guys in one round., I mean just to be clear it was 30 to 3 and we stopped playing. Me and Foxy
Starting point is 01:39:08 Yeah, we did stop. Me and Foxy are trying to be hospitable to our guests. Yeah, it was a long day too So we were a little tired. That's soft. You know what? You know what? That's gonna get us? Okay, no gold medals in the Olympics We're gonna get all the gold medals. We already we decided that. If we're hospitable in LA. There's been a sport that has been in the Olympics the last few times. Yeah. Shout out America. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is an absolute legend in the golfing world. Traveled out here to Indianapolis, Indiana to not only
Starting point is 01:39:46 chitchat about an event that's happening in August here but also go see the India Fever. A guy that everybody wants to be friends with, a guy that is currently the captain of the Range Goats Golf Club in Live'll live golf. Two-time Masters Champion. Ladies and gentlemen, Bubba Watson! Yeah! Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da Oh, yeah. Oh! Oh, I will actually. The pink driver, whenever it came into existence, we all loved it, electrifying. Because you were hitting the shit out of that thing with no swing coach, right? Wasn't that the big story?
Starting point is 01:40:31 Yeah, no lessons. That's still the same story? Yeah, still the same story. I can't afford a lesson, man. I can't. They're expensive. I think now you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:40 But just for the record, if it was 100 million, whatever y'all said yesterday, I watched your show. Whatever y'all said yesterday, if it was 100 plus million, I wouldn't even have read the contract. I would have signed that thing so fast. So it wasn't even near 100 million. Okay. Forget hundreds. It wasn't even close to 100. So real quick, so were all of those numbers gassed up a little bit, you think? The internet's not always true. What?
Starting point is 01:41:00 Oh, well. Yeah, certainly. Good boy. Yeah. And by the way, I really want to talk to you about this he wasn't eating that popcorn yeah y'all bump me for him I'm gonna bump me too for him. Yeah, Bubba was supposed to be on the show tomorrow. Bubba made an earlier trip. Wow. Not Tom Cruise, Bubba. It's going to be a little bit. He is certainly eating that. No, there is no chance he's eating.
Starting point is 01:41:30 That's why the first fell, because he hit his mouth. He closed his mouth early and it fell. And then you could tell. That wasn't. His hand never moved open. He was. No! What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:41:40 He was just like Q Rich. Q Rich said, once he kind of figures out the room. Muscle memory. The wind. Then he'll figure it out. He was just trying to figure out the room right there. That's that movie magic. You don't look like good at 82. What, how old is he? 62? Bob, you didn't watch your mom. Yeah, I want to remove myself from the stage to be completely honest, but I won't. He doesn't have 100 million, but it's close. All right, Bob, let's talk about it. Let's talk about
Starting point is 01:42:03 the golf. Let's do it. Scotty Schaeffler is the man. Boring. it's close. All right, Bob. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about the golf. Let's do it Scotty Scheffler is The man okay, so boring. He's boring. No, I don't think so. I think his game is so good I think his game is so good. It takes up for everything else I know also when you love it if he just started yelling at people we got a fuck. Yeah out of them Yeah, we got a fuck. Yeah out of them on the head on the hat slot the hat throw afterwards Yeah, I think it's because his driver was not doing well I think he feels like he probably grinded out that Sunday at Quayle Hollow. But how long do the people in the golf world, you guys, do you talk about him goats that? Like when does that start happening?
Starting point is 01:42:34 Because obviously you got Jack, you got Tiger, and then Scottie is the conversation at this point. What does he need to improve? What does he need to do? And why is he so good? Is it just his ability to focus? What is the difference? Well first of all I think that you know he's only been around what four years as a pro so he's got 16, 12, 18 wins whatever he's got so I think he's getting there to the goat status he's gaining on it but he's still got a long way to go. I think his year last year when you count even the the event he had in Vegas nine wins I think that was the best year we've ever seen as a golfer with the competition around the world now. The world's playing. So yeah, I think he's definitely on his way to goat status, but he's still got a long way to go. I mean, you got to get to 80 some odd wins, right? So, and what was the other part you said? Why is he so good? It's just his ability
Starting point is 01:43:22 to concentrate? I think he, yeah, his ability to to he trust himself. He's he's only focused on golf He has a great man on the bag Teddy who would carry for me for 15 years And then he and then he believes in himself. He he putts unbelievable But his ball striking he's swaying on the ball. He's doing all this stuff, but he knows what his golf swing is He knows what he wants to do, he's doing all this stuff, but he knows what his golf swing is, he knows what he wants to do, and he's not, like I said, he's born, he's playing born golf, so his heart rate is just staying right here, even under pressure.
Starting point is 01:43:52 And so he started pulling the driver a little bit, and then we heard Saturday night he stayed, he was eight, a five stroke lead, and he stayed for multiple hours fixing his grip. Are you guys constantly adjusting things during the tournament? How normal is that? Well, I think for him, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:04 he came out and said that his driver was tested as well. And so I think putting in a new driver, your baby is now gone. So he's trying to figure it out. And every time you put a new grip on or a new shaft in there, it doesn't line up the way you want it to. You haven't got the grip worn in the way you want to. So he's trying to figure it out, knowing that Sunday is going to be one of the hardest rounds that he's gonna face, right? I mean, he even came back to tied for the lead, they went back up to leading. So it's a hard round of golf. When you know you're winning that big, how do you stay focused and committed and not
Starting point is 01:44:35 try to just par, right? Yes. He has to attack. Yeah, and he does. He continues and on 18, he puts one to one, like four feet or whatever with the water to the left. He had already locked it up because Rom had his run and then he kind of disappears 16, 17, and 18. A lot of conversation about Rom is,
Starting point is 01:44:48 you guys only play 54 holes at Liv. It's a little bit different. Is it different, like having a Sunday for Rom? Cause Rom mentioned afterwards, he was like, I haven't felt that in a long time. I haven't felt that type of thing. Cause obviously Liv, different style of golf, different form of golf, different environment of golf. I can't wait to talk to you about what the future is you guys all think
Starting point is 01:45:09 for Liv that are in it and living it but do you think that is a little bit working against some of the Liv guys those Sunday days in how long these tournaments are? No I think what I what I got from Rom's interview was was more of of he loved the chase when you in a major, it's different than any other event in the world. I mean, you're playing all around the world, you're playing on the PGA Tour, but a major is different. You're dealing with, you're fighting yourself, because you're thinking about interviews. You're thinking about this could be my next major.
Starting point is 01:45:36 This could be my first major, my eighth major, whatever it is. And so you're thinking about that. And then when you're thinking about chasing, he had to attack 17, especially after he bogeyed 16. So it is, it's a birdie double. I mean, that's how fine line it was. So I don't think it was anything of energy. I mean, he works out, he's young.
Starting point is 01:45:55 You know, it's just one of those things where he just, that wasn't his day, that wasn't his last few holes. It was awesome to watch Ron back in there, DeChambeau back in there. It was nice to see the big names. How do you think Liv has gone? How have you enjoyed your experience with Liv? Because we can talk about it from a golf fans perspective where the majors, it's awesome to see everybody back together. I assume you guys have similar thoughts about it all? Yeah, for sure. When I looked at it from a business standpoint, you know, the contract and what where Liv wants to be in ten years.
Starting point is 01:46:21 It goes back to yesterday. Your point was talking about it's a new business. I mean, this is a new adventure. Most businesses don't really, aren't successful after a few years. And so you have to have the growing pains, you have to develop. And we're a worldwide, we're F1 racing. We're worldwide sport.
Starting point is 01:46:38 We're trying to bring golf to the masses around the world. PGA Tour, we're not fighting with the PGA Tour. The PGA Tour is America, it's PGA Tour. And we're trying to bring around the world. Everybody's watching around the world. PGA Tour, we're not fighting with the PGA Tour. The PGA Tour is America, it's PGA Tour, and we're trying to bring around the world. Everybody's watching around the world, just US hasn't got in there yet. And when you think of F1 with the team aspect where you're playing against your teammate,
Starting point is 01:46:55 but also you're trying to win the Constructors Cup, that's the same thing we're trying to do. The Range Goats are trying to win the championship, but also you're trying to win individually. I enjoy the team aspect of it. I think win individually I enjoy the team aspect of it I think there I enjoy the team aspect of it I think you guys got sick merch to range goats great name well we you know we actually put some thought into it you know the golf ball the golf tee is like that and then you got swamp rabbit then you got that's
Starting point is 01:47:19 that's the irons if you can see oh yeah oh yeah the bits yeah and then you got hooks and slices as the horns. Oh The rough is like the go to the And then and then when you think a goat we think the greatest of all time and for me it's it's twofold I had going through some mental struggles So it's grow on a team and then it's golfers on a team So goat stands for something else to me And then a driving range was the funny part because the range is like where I don't like to go I like to go play golf. So I hate going to the driving range So just it just tied in some funny parts as part of the team logo and you talked about some mental stuff
Starting point is 01:48:01 Where was that? I assume golf is a tough game. I was a punter Obviously kicker in college a lot of in between the years. I think pitchers experience a similar type thing. It's a lot of... Or shooting a free throw. Yeah, free throw. It's a lot of in between the years. Is that what you're talking about mental stuff? 100%. And what I, my struggle was I was putting, I was putting, when I played golf and 24 hours of Golf Channel,
Starting point is 01:48:22 when I was playing golf and I'd shoot bad, it made me think of that's they were judging me as a person You know because I shot 75 or I or I double bogey the last hole to lose or triple bogey That one of the holes and so I was letting that define who bubble Watson was And so I was going the wrong way. It took many years. It didn't it wasn't overnight it was started from like 2000 we'll say 2009 all the way up to like 2014 and I went from 200 pounds to 160 pounds. So I went to the doctor I did all these tests and the doctor said there's nothing wrong with you and I said well there is look at me and It was just anxieties and stress were eating me alive and I was just I was eating foods
Starting point is 01:49:03 I wasn't changing my diet, but I was losing weight and that's when we realized I was just battling anxieties and stress were eating me alive and I was just I was eating foods I wasn't changing my diet but I was losing weight that's when we realized I was just battling anxieties and stress and letting golf dictate who I was as a person. Yeah control your happiness the outcome of something that might be out of your control in this entire thing did you have imposter syndrome out there? I faked it you're saying? No do you imposter syndrome is whenever you basically think to yourself, I don't deserve what I am currently doing right now. You start to question whether or not
Starting point is 01:49:29 you're supposed to be where you are. For sure, 100%, you think about all that. I had that, I won't let you know. I had that as a punter, I have that on a very regular basis in this current life. It is something I think a lot of people battle with. I think we all do it, right? Especially as men, because men don't,
Starting point is 01:49:42 the first thing I had to do is when I fell to my knees, when I finally realized I have to change, I went to my wife. In 21 years of marriage, I had to go tell her the truth. Right? Like, I mean, she knows everything about me, like 98%. You know? And so you have to tell her the truth, who you are.
Starting point is 01:50:00 You're weak. You're not this man, this great man that everybody thinks you are or you think you are. You're weak. And so I this man this great man that everybody thinks you are or you think you are You're weak And so I had to go and talk to her and share her my true feelings and my thoughts and then I'd go talk to Teddy Teddy was on my bag at that time now. It's better did a gig with with Scheffler, but Right, and so that's what I'm saying. I think as in men in general have that problem. Come on way to battle Yeah, that's not easy man. No, that is not especially in the sport of golf. I've, way to battle. Yeah, for sure. That's not easy, man.
Starting point is 01:50:25 That is not easy, especially in the sport of golf. I've actually given up the game, so has Connor. Yeah, Connor and Connor. Well, I don't know, you got that new swing now. Oh, you know what? Whatever that elbow thing was, that was terrible. I got a pull, brother. I got a pull, brother, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:50:38 You got a video. Change. I watched that video. Good social media. Around the pocket. Thank you, AJ. AJ gets it. Get in the slot Thank you AJ. AJ gets it. Get in the slot.
Starting point is 01:50:46 You got to get in the slot. I'm not here and I'm pulling. Yeah whatever that is. What's your guys deal? You don't pull with this. I'm even showing you righty. And this is what you come through with. This is just going to react to it.
Starting point is 01:50:59 God I hate this sport. Thought you had it. I thought I figured out watch this. Look at this. Can you put it up back here? Just like me. They're pulling. Yeah but what's leading it the shoulder that front shoulders leading it all so I'm pulling I'm either pulling like what I'm when I'm axing don't do that. He go put them wrist down a little bit Yes, too far out. I see what what's the
Starting point is 01:51:19 What's the? Take golfer keep keep a Wachan. Yeah, yeah, with the massive. Japanese, the shallow swing. Have you ever seen this guy? He's Instagram. Bobo. You haven't told me a name yet. Wow, that's the issue.
Starting point is 01:51:37 So some Japanese guy. He's a Japanese guy. He's at a driving range. Which is not just a driving range. Mountain. Beautifully lit. Gorgeous. And then every time he he just has this nice smooth
Starting point is 01:51:47 Just like easy swing and it's a draw shot every time I get this guy Yeah, he's so cool and he says just do the shallow swing. It's like I'm trying brother Okay, I'll watch every video you got I watch this BGA tour one I need to pull that thing in here Bubba you want no lessons. No lessons. No lessons So do you think that's potentially a part of the problem that you were having because I think you rely on your fundamentals in the high-pressure moments I think no I think if you look at if you look at the greatest golfers right I think that they have something unique Arnold Palmer you're not gonna teach Arnold Palmer
Starting point is 01:52:19 swing you're gonna teach Jack Nicklaus swing Scotty Scheffler you're not gonna teach that and I think some of the, there is some robots, we'll call them robots on golf swings. Nick Faldo was one who was very good. He could get in that robotic mood and just play golf to the best ability. But like Scotty Scheffler, I mean, he's moving everywhere. His feet are dancing everywhere, but you're not,
Starting point is 01:52:41 you don't teach that. That's kind of self-taught, but then he's worked on the fine details. We are wrapping up here on ESPN. We'll continue on YouTube, ESPN+, Disney+, with Bubba Orton, an absolute legend. And remember, Tom Cruise is on the show tomorrow. Bubba got bumped to today for Tom Cruise tomorrow. Yep.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Everybody understands. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change your life, goodbye. All right, we're still live, obviously. Okay, so what do I need to work on you think? I don't want to quit the sport entirely. Yeah, I like to sport at one point It was my goal to work enough all the boys can become rich got a bet I can disappear Yeah, I got a 30 year bet. Oh, yeah, I got a bet with this guy 30 year bubble things about that. Yeah
Starting point is 01:53:19 He owes me 10 million bucks. I make the cut 50. I was 20. Yeah, it's 50 now He owes me 10 million bucks. I make the cut. 50. I thought it was 20. Yeah, I think it's 50 now. 50, 20, okay. Yeah, you're right, yeah. All of this, you're 100% right.
Starting point is 01:53:28 100 million. This guy owes me 50 million bucks if I can make the cut at a senior PGA event. So I got what, 30 years or whatever to make that happen. What do I need to work? How old are you now? 38. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Gotta make the cut. Gotta make the cut. If you do that, whatever that wing thing you're doing, you ain't making it. Gotta play golf. But you do that, whatever that wing thing you're doing, you ain't make it. But a Champions Tour doesn't have a cut, so. That's a good point. Uh oh! Give me an exemption, brother!
Starting point is 01:53:51 Top 20. You get a top 20 of a Champions event, then you go, then you can't. That's different. You can't change rules. We never said that. Never said that, brother. Top 40. But what is the number one thing you see amateur golfers doing that you think yourself
Starting point is 01:54:06 like doofus, like this is so simple. Like what, I know you, I don't know how often you get to play maybe pro-ams or something like that. You get to see. I play all the time at home. With amateurs? Oh yeah, I play with the members all the time. I love it.
Starting point is 01:54:18 What is the biggest, obviously I hit a massive slice. The biggest thing is chipping and putting. That's what changes the game. Yeah, my putt, my flastic is the worst. But nobody, but what, what do you think about when you're putting just wants to go putt and chip. They want to hit the driver. Amen. We want to hit a hard, right?
Starting point is 01:54:35 We want to fly it. Yeah, far. We'll hit a long too. Yeah, we'll hit that thing long. Exactly. Talk about good wood. Yeah, it's all great wood. Big wood.
Starting point is 01:54:43 You're telling me I need to putt a little bit more. Yeah, putt and chip. That's where you're going to lose the most strokes. You're only hitting the driver at most 14 times. So you're chipping and putting a lot more than that. You're putting what, 30 times at best? So you got to practice putting and chipping. We're putting a lot more than that, Bubba.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Well, I was trying to give you some. Yeah, we're putting a lot more than that. D-Bud has a question for you. We kind of talked about it, the team aspect of live. And I don't know specifically through your journey how many teams you played on golf up until that point. But how long did it take you to get used to that? Because golf is such an individual sport.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Most of us play team sports up here. In some of those days when you may feel like shit or you don't have your best stuff, you got a teammate to kind of lean on and pick you up. So how long did it take you to get used to that aspect on a professional level? Yeah, so it's interesting. High school golf is team. You have five guys, four scores count. So then when you go to college, same thing, five guys, four scores count. And so I've been at every level I've played on the team and then Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup are our two biggest events throughout the year. And so for me when they brought this to my attention about how people are following teams
Starting point is 01:55:51 and that's where sports are going, it was a no-brainer for me. And then it go back to the mental side, for me it was I get to help people. When I'm done playing and somebody's taking my spot and I'm still the owner, captain and overseer of this team. I get to lay into these boys, trying to teach them, try to help them right now. Matthew Wolf's on my team who went through some struggles. And so I've been able to put my arm around him and talk to him and show him, even younger than I went through it.
Starting point is 01:56:19 He's even younger. So he's 26 years old. So I get to try to help him going forward. The team aspect, I know that now I'm playing for the guys next to me. So I'm going to not pout as much. I'm going to try to save as many strokes as I can. It might be a one over that day or over par that day, but it might be better than somebody else.
Starting point is 01:56:39 So I've got to lead by example and show that I'm not a quitter. And I'm going to fight through even my struggles. But then at the same time, you're watching three other guys and hopefully you're watching them and you learn from them or or want to battle with them especially our team championship at the end of the year is when we're where it's match play so yeah you don't want to let them down and now golf finally it's like football the guy next to you if he's working 100% you're working 100% your're working 100%
Starting point is 01:57:09 Your team has a chance to pull it out or win that day. Yeah team Ryder cups always been sweet to watch Yeah, it's an amazing aspect and the idea who's up who's down who knew who do we need everybody rallying around it? And I think that was a fascinating thing whenever lived launched that like hey We're gonna make a solo sport a single sport into a team sport as well. We think it'll be fun Then obviously the music I don't love the music, but I appreciate what it is. It's like a sign of like, hey you can do golf differently. Then obviously the shorts, I think that was wild. We went away from shorts, by the way. Pants only? Pants now and golf, unless it's over 90 degrees, but then it's still subjective. So basically pants. Okay, so we went to the pants. So we're still evolving, trying to create this, which is kind of what D-Bunch was saying in the entirety.
Starting point is 01:57:46 We're not at the finished product of Liv. From what you understand of the inside workings of Liv, this is gonna be, we got runway for this thing to continue to grow. 100%. So the Liv PGA negotiations that have been chatted about, I don't know how much you know, I'm not gonna ask you to be on the inside of a massive negotiation,
Starting point is 01:58:03 an international negotiation with a lot of political play as well. But do you think Liv would need a PGA partnership to continue or is Liv saying, we're gonna continue for the next 10 years regardless of what happens? Liv is here to stay. Liv's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 01:58:19 The people behind Liv, it's not going anywhere. You're looking at changing culture, you're looking at changing culture, you're looking at changing the game itself. America is a small piece of our world and golf is global and golf is getting golf is getting global more and more. So we're going to places that the PGA Tour is not or European Tour is not. So we're trying to show golf in different areas. It's just like soccer or football is now played in the United States We never really watched it until now, you know
Starting point is 01:58:50 Now it's shown on ESPN. We're watching, you know, the Euro Cup and all these different things So it's just sports is going global now. And so we're not battling the PGA Tour the PGA Tour Is here to stay as well our, we have 30% of our people that show up to our events have never been to a professional golf event. So that means we are growing the game outside of the PGA Tour or outside of our country. And so that's what we're doing. We're trying to just show it in a different light and get more people to watch and play. And that's kind of what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:59:23 And it's global and not just America. Yeah I appreciate that the you know the mission is a lot different than how we view it because we're just like where the hell is this? We have no idea where we can watch this. We know there's a lot of superstars over there. We're big fans of yours. We're big fans of Brooks. We're big fans of DJ. We're big fans of Rambo. We're big fans of Com. Wolf, Oklahoma State kid. Yeah okay big fan of him. Like there's a lot of guys we're big fans of DJ, we're big fans of Rambo, we're big fans of Com. Wolf, Oklahoma State Kid? Yeah, okay, big fan of him. Like there's a lot of guys we're big fans of,
Starting point is 01:59:48 but we can't find it. For you guys, the mission isn't just like, hey, we need everybody in America watching this right now. Right now it's we're trying to grow the game globally, we're trying to captivate audiences, and maybe markets that haven't been touched before, and then inevitably America's gonna come, is the assumption.
Starting point is 02:00:03 That's the hope, that's the dream. We don't, you want it to do you need it to? Not right now you don't but you but you want it to happen. Yeah 100% F1s what got three didn't have races before now. It's got three races in the United States We have a few events in the United States. We're coming here August yeah, August 15 through the 17th. By the way, I'll give you a pro-amp. Y'all want to play in the pro-amp? I haven't asked anybody but I'll make y'all play in the pro-amp if y'all want to play in it. Hey I think I've quit the game but some of the boys here. You got a
Starting point is 02:00:33 new swing now. You're gonna be chipping and putting. You said my swing is S. That's why I said chipping putt. Okay all right yeah cuz we need to get to the green. Okay August 15th through the 17th you guys are gonna come to Chatham Hills Golf Club, which is a beautiful place. I assume every course you go to is beautiful. That's why golf is so awesome. Such beautiful views, such beautiful scenes, such a beautiful sport,
Starting point is 02:00:53 which was why my goal was to get enough money to be able to go to a place. I wanted a gated neighborhood on water, golf cartable to three different golf courses. And that was just gonna be my, that was it. That was going to be my retirement. That was going to be my entire life. Is there a place like that, that exists?
Starting point is 02:01:10 You tell me. The villages, old people. That's where I'm trying to head to. That was the goal. Puerto Rico, 65 and up. Yeah, that's where I'm going. In Florida, the villages in Florida. Somewhere, this exists somewhere.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a place I was there this bet It is basically what I've been looking for when I quit the game So now I don't know now I don't know what the future is in with your Motivational tactics you just try to get me here. It wasn't the right play you tell me It was ass was not gonna challenge me to get better. It actually It was universe telling me I need to fuck quit sports. I agree So me and Connor will definitely come to the pro-am Foxy needs to be in that though
Starting point is 02:01:48 No, no one wants to watch me play in that. I'm on AJ needs to be there. You go AJ's a player dude This guy actual player go ahead AJ Yeah, bubba I a question I've always had for professional golfer does it help to almost be dumb out there or naive to everything going on around you I feel like that's why you know the weekend where your golfer drinks 10, 12 beers, gets to catch a little buzz and he starts playing his best golf. I feel like sometimes it's very easy for people to overanalyze every single aspect of their golf shot.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Is that something that professionals struggle with? 100%, I think that the greats of the game know how to block everything out and focus or refocus if they get off for the first couple holes that's one of my struggles is is trying to get away from all the Stuff behind the the ropes I've been able to do it a few times, but when you get in the zone You don't even realize what people are saying what people are wearing or what people are doing But most the time I fail because I've only won 12 times on the PGA Tour, but lost 300 plus. 12! That's a dozen brother!
Starting point is 02:02:49 Yeah, yeah, but I've lost what 300, 400 times. So mentally... I was gonna do the math there, percentage is not... hey, that's a good win. But mentally though, like Tiger Woods, Cory Pavin was my idol when it comes to mental stuff. He's an old player. I don't know if you know who that is. I know the history of the sport, Paze. Exactly. And then now you got Scottie Scheffler. Scottie Scheffler looks like he's just, he's not even paying attention.
Starting point is 02:03:11 He's barely talking to Teddy when he's out there. So you are trying to lock in. You're trying to, because it's like you said, it's punters, it's pitchers. You're trying to stay in your moment and trying to pull off that kick, that throw. You're trying to hit that swing. You're trying to get in your moment and try to pull off that kick, that throw. You're trying to hit that swing, you're trying to get in the slot, you know? Yeah, come out of the pocket.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Get in the slot. I want to get in that. Bam, you got it. That looks good, man. Thank you. Looking good. Looking better. Bamba, I already quit the game.
Starting point is 02:03:41 I don't need to hear your shit. Go ahead, Connor. Also quit the game. Yeah, I did quit the game. I don't need to hear you shit. Go ahead Connor also quit the game Yeah, I did quit the game No, no point to play but speaking of like kind of getting out of that mental rut as a two-time Masters champion when you see Rory kind of get it done this year at Augusta Obviously, we all saw the massive, you know Weight off his shoulders the emotion after he finishes that grand slam
Starting point is 02:04:02 Watching it as someone who's been through that struggle of a four-day bender in Augusta trying to win that green jacket. How did you feel? And is there like a community of green jackets who kind of were pumped and excited for Rory and welcomed him in to the clubhouse and everything like that? And could you relate to him as he did? So I remember when you won your green jacket, it was a very emotional scene as well. 100%. When I won mine, I just adopted my son, my first child, two weeks before. And then when I won, I was thinking about me becoming a dad and my dad passed away in 2010.
Starting point is 02:04:37 And so just a lot of emotions of battling to get to where I was. And with Rory, yeah, it's a different kind of battle. I mean, he was up there. I mean, he was the cream of the crop. He's still the cream of the crop, but he was up there, had a chance to win the Masters a few times. Yeah, I sent him a text right away, told him how awesome it was to see.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Very good player, very good talented player. And he said, I can't wait to have a locker next to yours. And I can't wait for Tuesday night dinner. That was his response. How much do you guys judge how shitty the dinner's gonna be by who the winner is? And is that already happening? Oh, that's been, well for me it happens all the time.
Starting point is 02:05:10 I try to eat before. Oh, so you're not worried about their dinner. Nah, I care with it. Oh, so this one was good this past year. Scottie's got the sliders, so it's got an appetizer. So he has the sliders and this year he put the french fries on top of the sliders. Oh, Pittsburgh!
Starting point is 02:05:23 Yeah, so I was eating that all up. Okay, so you're in a lot of wine too, right? In that kind of the Augusta thing? Yeah, there's some guys, yeah. They provide it, some guys drink it, some guys don't. And then some guys, because the past champion has to pay for everything, so guys are getting bottles of wine
Starting point is 02:05:41 and getting him to sign it and so they can take it to their trophy case. Oh, that's awesome. And so it's just more money on the bill just there's a there's i don't know i don't know the place there's a wine thing down in the basement down yeah there's down underground they have a lot of secret rooms around that place is that right yeah you didn't hear that from me though of course not i and i've never been there either um there's like some very expensive shit downstairs oh yeah they got some they got some heavy-duty stuff down there I'm not anything about some presidential stuff down there. I think oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they got some heavy from what I've been told
Starting point is 02:06:12 You ever been there. How about the the junior or the amateur crow's nest? Yeah. Yeah crazy It's right above like champions lockers. It's what's right above champions locker. Yeah Yeah, so you would go through there and then you would just go up there and then you'd walk down around. Yeah, there's four, it's, I think there's four or five beds up there, but then there's like no, like it's like, It's like a dorm room. Yeah, two toilets. It's like a dorm room.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Yeah, there's no doors, like you're just, It's a lot of research. Just random, yeah. I just heard about this. Well that Bennett kid, when Bennett, when the Bennett kid was in it a few years ago, we, Yeah, that's how we learned about it. There's a card game up there too.
Starting point is 02:06:44 What's the card, they have like a table set up for a card. I wasn't good as an amateur, so I never got to stay up there. Have you ever gone up there? I've been up there, but I've never stayed up there. I think a manning, the one that played for New York, destroyed a toilet up there. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:56 That makes sense. This year, I do know this year, the amateurs got out of there on Tuesday. They stayed like Monday night, Tuesday night, and then they got out. Like then they go stay somewhere else. Yeah, they're twin beds. Yeah, it's not it's not comfortable and then you want to go stay with your family. It's your first Masters as an amateur and all these things. You want to go stay with your family and friends. I do think Liv, talking about
Starting point is 02:07:17 staying in the week before lead-up, brought a lot of light to what life was like in the PJ Tour before Liv that I don't think any of us knew about. Nope. About how much you can lose money, basically, even if you're a big star. And then I think, was it Jordan's dad did some rating? Yeah, the- Bonus there?
Starting point is 02:07:34 Yeah. Because they're like not making a cut, losing a bunch of money, but showcasing your downfall basically every Thursday and Friday so that the ratings would go up. So the PJ tour would be making money. It was like a one-way contract basically move the needle bonus yeah there that was basically what it was like that is essentially yeah and if you were
Starting point is 02:07:50 featured and how much and you get a bonus at the end of season and everything like that social clips of shots like if it was you and they went and it had a bunch of impressions reviews or whatever that was like a statistician or something like that top ten got paid that big. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, we had no idea that PJ was like a one-way road though. I my last year on the PJ I was top ten. I got a I got a little bonus. Hey, Bob. I must watch it's cuz this pink driver would be out You know that the boy was gonna be sending some big-time big shots But I didn't know that was what the PGA Tour was for so long
Starting point is 02:08:22 Obviously everybody's lucky to be a professional golfer and they feel that. But we had no idea, like big stars potentially losing thousands, tens of thousands of dollars whenever they're not making a cut. We just assumed that that was a part of a contract and that entire thing. So I think that was good whenever Liv came out. And I think that PGA Tour has changed because of that.
Starting point is 02:08:39 I didn't know that was your guys' life in the PGA Tour. Yeah, so you don't you you have to prove to earn right like you to make your money and so I know of a player now a caddy Paul Tesori I should probably should have called him out but he played on the PGA Tour he went to University of Florida got his PGA Tour card lost missed every cut 17 cuts in a row he missed so he never made a dollar that year so think about it if you're if you're at Let's let's just make up a number back then there are fifteen hundred dollars a week to your caddy Back then and then your hotel. I mean, you know your flights your food if you have a trainer if you have a coach
Starting point is 02:09:17 I mean you're back then you're probably five Five six anywhere from five to ten thousand dollars down down. So 17 weeks of $10,000 down. I mean, you're in debt. You're like- Congrats, you're a professional golfer. You've lost $200,000 on a season. Yeah, that was crazy to learn about. I think that is something that Live kind of changed golf
Starting point is 02:09:36 for the future, for the professional golf. The elevated events that started taking place with the more prize pools were good. Do you feel, is there a sense of pride by you, Liv, guys, that that has happened? Well, I mean, for me, he was asking about the team earlier. For me, I wanted to do something different. I wanted to be an entrepreneur. And for me to have a franchise, it's a golf franchise.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I mean, it's a dream come true to be able to be in the sport like that and own a franchise. So yeah, I mean, I take pride in being able to think outside the box and do something different. And if it does help the PGA Tour players, great. Nobody's trying to hurt the PGA Tour players. Nobody's trying to hurt professional golf. We're trying to help professional golf and grow it around the world.
Starting point is 02:10:16 And so yeah, it's definitely better than it was for the PGA Tour players, but it's still top heavy. I mean, the guys that are, you know, now there's only what 70 or 75 guys keep their tour card instead of 125. So there's things that they've changed positive and negative on all fronts. Same thing with Liv.
Starting point is 02:10:35 We've changed things positive and negative. We're trying to figure it all out. Q-School still happen or no? And what does Liv have that's like that? Cause I know there is a... We have, we have guys fall off. There's four or five, four, I think now six guys fall off our, our, our league.
Starting point is 02:10:50 And so if you don't finish in the top 48, you fall off our league. There's a qualifier as of right now, where one spot gets on to live. And PJ tour has a qualifier. They show like, let's say for instance, okay. I hit this golf sim up here. Okay. So you're back in the golf. uh... pg tour has a qualifier they tell i could say for instance i had this call symbol pure
Starting point is 02:11:07 figure back in the gulf this is a high for instance inside the federal bubble slot bolusai figure out that's what you know i had that shower far from the deeper chip in the pond breakdown i can win a tournament be in the live one hundred percent
Starting point is 02:11:24 yes that's really right down there. I can win a tournament and be in the live league? 100%. Do you guys test for weed? For you, no. Okay, okay. Maybe we do have a path. Maybe we do have a path to professional golf in this entire thing. I think like the US Open, right, there's a qualifier for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:37 I always liked that. Like, cause I watched that break, make it, break it. It was on Golf Channel. Big break. The big break. Yeah. I used to watch that. I loved that. Tony Finau. Yeah, was on the break it. It was on Golf Channel. Big break. The big break. I used to watch that. I loved that. Tony Finau.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Yeah, was on the big break. Really? He breaks some glass. I mean, the controlling. I love that. But I also love the fact that you got an opportunity now to go do it. But then people would lose their cards
Starting point is 02:11:58 and then they'd get back in there. Feels like a grind. Let's talk about the schedule at the PGA and what your life was like. Now Liv, obviously Dustin Johnson spoke about it. Hey it's less work more money like that is clearly a business model for Dustin Johnson and part of his decision-making. You guys are on the road Tuesday through hopefully like Sunday. How does that work? Yeah there's no more cut so we're there for the whole week
Starting point is 02:12:19 but I try to go in on Monday to get practice because nobody's out there. Even if I'm traveling overseas I try to get in there Monday to get practice because nobody's out there. Even if I'm traveling overseas, I try to get in there a little bit early. Now that my kids are older, so now my kids come out and go to the tournaments with me, they're allowed on the range with me. They're allowed to do whatever, I'm the owner of the team, so they're allowed to ride with me wherever I want to go.
Starting point is 02:12:40 I'm Jerry Jones. Yeah, exactly. I mean, hey, our team sucks, but we're trying to- We got a great logo. Yeah, exactly mean, hey, our team sucks, but we're trying. We got a great logo. Yeah, exactly. The logo is the key. And so, you know, I love it. We're, we have time off. PGA Tour quit having time off. We started going year round. And so being able to spend time with my kids and watch them play sports is a dream come true. And they love watching me play golf. My son's getting old enough now he can walk all 18 holes and follow me. And so it's a blast out there like going to Spain
Starting point is 02:13:09 and London. We're going to stop over in Rome, let him see Rome for a couple days. And um, Wow, I love it. But now going back to the PGA Tour schedule, there was 40 events. For me, you pick, you pick your top 20 courses you believe fit your game. And so then you can do that. But now on live, it's tougher because you've got 14 weeks. You have to play in all 14. No matter if all courses suck for you or all courses are good for you, you have to change your game and try to figure out your game and how you can play and attack each course,
Starting point is 02:13:40 even though it might not be the courses you want to play at. And on the PGA Tour, out of 40, you can find you can uh, play well and perform at so you can keep your card Okay, uh, you said you're walking your oldest, uh or walking the court. What happened to hover craft? What happened to the hover thing insurance? Oh, yeah, it's dangerous that thing's dangerous Hard to stop. Uh, no, it stops quick. That's the problem. No seat belts. Yeah nine inches of air So when you let off the gas that thing just drops and it just digs in the ground It's a paperweight if you're over water, you better not let go
Starting point is 02:14:11 You're going on you better you better keep holding that gas how it so the golf boys is that what it was? I think golf boys. Yeah, what a time. I'm thinking about going solo. I've been thinking about this I still have my overalls you look great in them. Yeah, you still have the hovercraft Um, I can I can probably pull it out of the garage. You got any bars you guys singing rap in this? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you've been writing songs I've always got ideas in my head. Remember I told you I got mental issues That was a great moment golf has been fantastic you've been one of the trailblazers of a tie is a question for you speaking Of course is the kind of fit your style going back to Augusta do you feel like anytime you show up there are you in the mindset like hey I have a chance to win this
Starting point is 02:14:51 week like I always look at a guy like boom boom couples who you know no matter how old he gets come Saturday he made the cut he's one under now he's getting older so he might you know shoot 78 80 on Saturday and Sunday but when you go back to Augusta no matter how you're playing do you always feel like hey if I if I have it going you know early here like I have a shot to win another green jacket 100% and Freddie is my example every you'll see Freddie's name somewhere on that leaderboard the first couple days and maybe he wakes up too early and he can't tee off at 2 o'clock the next day, cuz that's his nap time.
Starting point is 02:15:25 But he's always up there, right? And so I always believe, there's not much rough there, so I believe I could hit crazy shots and get out of the trees. This year is the first time ever I led the field in putting and it happened to be at the Masters this year. I've been working hard on my putting and changing things. But I can remember four shots that cost me anywhere from six to eight shots. And those would, you know, I'd be, I'd be about second place, third place somewhere in there
Starting point is 02:15:50 and challenging for the man. That's golf isn't it? I'm happy to hear you go through this as well. Crazy. That's golf right there. If I didn't hit it, that probably, yeah, and that changes that because that is golf. It's like we talked about Ram. If that ball hits soft or a little bit more to the right on 17, he might tap in birdie and now it's a we talked about ROM if that ball hits soft or a little bit more to the the right on 17 He might tap in birdie and now it's a whole different animal, right? Yes, it bounced into the water. And so it's the same thing. I hit a ball on the water on 16 I hit a ball on the water on 13 on my drive So those are the two that I know of but there's four swings that I went back and looked at that that cost me a chance
Starting point is 02:16:24 For a top three are battling for a win. Seeing what you just said is why me and Connor quit the sport. Yeah, exactly. No thanks. Come back, boys. I mean, there's a chance that I can get back in a league. I didn't know there was a chance I could get into a professional golfer. I've been a professional wrestler, professional soccer player.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Baseball. Professional football player, professional baseball player. WWE, right? It's going global now. Oh yeah, it always has been. But think about if the NFL network only showed 10 NFL teams, right? Like we're talking about a global sport.
Starting point is 02:16:55 So PGA TOUR is America and Liv is trying to go worldwide. I mean, every sport now is going worldwide because there's other opportunities out there. Football's going in Germany now Germany Germany had like two million people waiting a million people waiting. I'm saying golf is people are waiting the Australia clip right wasn't that Australia? What's the what's the best stop you've been on this kind of surprise you? Adelaide is getting is bigger and bigger. I mean we're at a
Starting point is 02:17:22 50,000 people a day. I mean and you're just we're talking about like we're talking about the ropes. Some of the ropes are on the fairway. I'm like how am I gonna hit this fairway? How am I gonna hit these people? But they just... I think Australians are down with it. They love their sport down there. And all they want to do is shoeys. I just want to win so I could do a shoey. I don't want to do a shoey but I just want to win. Yeah for the people to do a shoey. Yeah it's very nice. You're one of the guys I just got shown a video that I did not know existed You had a jetpack as well. We're talking about the hover. You got a jetpack It wasn't legal in the United States just for the record so internationally and I think we they tested it in New Zealand
Starting point is 02:17:57 That's not you Tom Cruise I do my own stunts guys I eat popcorn I Literally I do my own stunts guys. I eat popcorn. I literally Bubba there was no butter on that popcorn. You could tell that was fake Don't need butter You're a butter guy. I can tell you I did it I'd get butter this morning, but I am a butter guy use that popcorn 730 this morning in honor of Tom Yeah, man, okay, so have a little bit of respect. I didn't know you were in a jet pack. These exist?
Starting point is 02:18:28 Did you feel safe in it? Not in the United States. It's illegal in the United States. Let me make sure I say that again. It's illegal. Did you feel safe in it? Did you fly in it? No, I'm scared of everything.
Starting point is 02:18:36 I play golf for a living. I walk for a living. That seems pretty easy getting in and out of that thing for every shot you have to make. It's not about the golf. It's more about the look, right? It's the style. You're right. I'll tell you what, you have a helmet on, take that helmet off, pull the glove.
Starting point is 02:18:51 It's going to be hard to land in the trees. But at the same time, you want to do it, right? Definitely. I've been looking for a jet pack for years, brother. You'll play golf again if that was the case. You know what, maybe. Two holes. If I could throw the ball, maybe that is what I would do.
Starting point is 02:19:09 That thing ain't gonna be able to land where I am. I just talked about the trees. That shit ain't gonna be, that's a fairway golfer. Good for you. Yeah, but you take a drop. I mean, you fly that thing over the green. I would get a little club out of the sky, let that thing drop down like one of those,
Starting point is 02:19:24 you know, whenever they do the ball drop on the green at those ball counters. Yeah, that's what I would be like. Bob, you're an innovator, brother. The brain always going. I love that you're running your own business. Good for golf. Let's head over to Hammer.
Starting point is 02:19:36 Don, Don, Don Diggs has a question for you. Yeah, Bob, there's been a lot of talk about, on our show about the difference between regular season and playoff and the atmosphere for that. And then there was a lot of talk about on our show about the difference between regular season and playoff and the atmosphere for that. And there was a lot of talk at Quail Hollow kind of that it's a regular season PGA stop. You know, and a lot of people were upset that a regular season PGA stop was a major course. What is the main difference between a regular season event versus a major as far as the course go and the atmosphere goes and
Starting point is 02:20:05 then the upcoming our hometown we got Oakmont coming up how's the setup for Oakmont? Well I first of all they're gonna change the course a little bit they're gonna set it up tougher they added tees I mean there was a bunch of holes over 500 yards which I thought was silly number nine was one of the toughest holes they play on the regular season and then to add I think 40 or 50 yards Was crazy the rough is up. The greens are firmer tougher pin placements so they're gonna trick it up as much as they can but then the atmosphere the
Starting point is 02:20:38 Knowing what it is going into it. You're trying to win a major for the first time second time third time, whatever it is going into it, you're trying to win a major for the first time, second time, third time, whatever it is. The media hype behind it is really where it just starts going in your head and your energy level and you start getting pumped up. But yeah, they definitely trick the course up as much as they can. Is that how you guys describe it? Trick it up? Yeah, trick it up. Yeah, I mean it's... Putting these trick pins in the shit. But it's the only sport, keep changing the the field, right? If there's no other sport, you're not you're not changing three-point line is the only thing we've changed in what 50 years of basketball. So
Starting point is 02:21:13 You know Pebble Beach plays at the same place but Pebble Beach when it's a US open nobody says it's just a regular It's Pebble Beach. I mean it's hard as can be when they set it up And I think that's the same thing they did with Charlotte Oakmont is Oakmont is crazy Even on a regular day Oakmont with the rough up. I finished fifth there in 07 when on hell Cabrera one and The rough was I mean the rough felt like it was a foot deep. There was nothing That's my brother brother, yeah. There was nothing you could do. And now there's no trees there.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Like they've changed the trees. You can see the whole golf course now. But they're still gonna have the high rough without rain, it's gonna be firm and fast like links golf, but then with high rough. So yeah, they're gonna, like I said, we call it tricking it up. They're gonna put the pins in crazy places
Starting point is 02:22:01 where you're gonna have to, missing the green sometimes is better than hitting the green because of the the chips gonna be easier than a long putt. We knew these majors were tricking weren't we? We knew they were out there tricking it up. Bubba you said you've been working on your putting and then there's a potential pro-am here at Chatham Hills Golf Club August 15 through the 17th live golf event. Welcome to Indiana, by the way. I don't know where Chad is. Is that in Indianapolis?
Starting point is 02:22:27 I have no idea. I think it's in Carmel, North. Nice area. It's for us. It's here. It's in Indianapolis. Yeah, Indianapolis. It's close enough.
Starting point is 02:22:39 It's north of Indianapolis in Westfield. Okay, Westfield. Just for the record, there will be goats on the driving range. For you? We always bring goats. Like Chicago, and now we're here, so we're going to bring some goats in. So we have a petting zoo on the golf course. Oh man. Little miniature goats or full-size goats? I think they're all small, right? But no, there is miniature. We had miniature in Chicago.
Starting point is 02:23:00 You guys should sacrifice. Maybe I'll get to talk to you. Yeah, yeah. Maybe I'll get to talk to you. You want to buy some goat meat? Yeah. Slit one throat for a vape. Drink some of the blood. In Adelaide, we had on the sixth hole, we had like, you know, there's a party hole.
Starting point is 02:23:19 And then on the sixth hole this year was like the family, the kids party hole. And we had, I think we had 12 goats. So there was like a petting zoo of goats. And so that was their party hole, the kids party hole. Wow. So you guys are trying to make it. Yeah, so we met the range goats. We brought it out ourselves and we-
Starting point is 02:23:34 How do you feel about the music? How do you feel about the music? I think, live, you've been to some events. Live, I think it's okay. On TV, it doesn't mesh well on TV. If there's a way to get TV, no music, but live it's fine. You've been to a few of them? For sure. I mean the environment I feel like it's kind of more upbeat. Good vibe. It's younger.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Yeah, when you're around the golf you still respect, you know, that teeing off and doing his putting and shit, but like it's golf allowed. They got little stations set up in different places for different vibes, different setups, concessions or whatnot, but I liked that. I enjoyed it. I'm a guy that's newer to golf. I got into golf like two, three years ago. So it was great for me to just have another option.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Obviously I want to see the best players playing against each other every week, but it's definitely a different version of golf. And it's kind of how I play golf. I'm out with the boys, we got speakers, we're drinking, we're doing our things. It's definitely a different vibe for sure. Definitely.
Starting point is 02:24:28 I can't golf without music, personally. Yeah. Can't. But you hate music. Yeah, I just don't want to hear, I love DJ Khaled. Yeah. I don't need him screaming, we the best, as somebody who's trying to, you know,
Starting point is 02:24:40 make a tournament winning putt. It doesn't translate to TV. That's the issue It's hard for me to be like oh, this is serious when it's my playlist being played while Rambo bombos about to throw his club into the dam You know it's just uh I think there's a couple things that golf has gotten right like hey golf has gotten right But I do like that. They're exploring the space and we're trying to kind of make it bigger and What'd you think about TGF? I thought it was good I I'm interested to see how season two will go because they added the Motor City machine guns that's right oh yeah but not until 27 oh so they're saying it's gonna be two more years? yeah they gotta get the team together it's gonna be around for that they might not even pop up. So that's what we were saying.
Starting point is 02:25:25 I was pumped that it got another season. Whenever I heard Motor City Machine Guns are gonna get a team. That's the name? Yeah. Tentatively. Yeah. As you see. I thought it was like the Motor City Hot Dogs or something dumb like that.
Starting point is 02:25:38 No. You're talking about the Weenie Mobile Race. It's got a year. It might change. You know. Yeah. But I didn't know it was 2027, because I heard 2026, next season is where I thought, I'm like, congrats to TGL,
Starting point is 02:25:48 we got another year, is what I thought. You're saying, they're saying we got at least two more years of this, which I think is good. I enjoyed it, I think it had a lot of opportunities. Is that how you're feeling? Yeah, I think that it had great opportunities, it had a great concept. I think that,
Starting point is 02:26:04 but how are we going to do it if it's the same in the same building in the same shots and I heard rumor they're trying to build one somewhere else right now But if it's in the same area same shots, how are we going to change it up? And like i'm a part of it. How are we going to change it up? But golf golf golf golf We will say we I would go um You might have to get some celebrities in there see some shanks I mean you got to you've got to try to get something in there. Golfers that are not as good, you want some shanks in there.
Starting point is 02:26:29 I mean, Tiger shanked one, I think, right? Got bladed one early. Yeah. Not Billy Ho, brother. Best TGL player of all time. Wanted to chop you, Jake. Hang his tarp. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 02:26:40 They do need to have more than one course, though. You're right. Yeah. It's the same shot. So viewing it week after week, it's's like I've seen them do this shot. What do you want to do? Put windows in front of the thing? Sure. They better. So Bob is like yeah. Actually that would be a good idea. They make it like a putt-putt operation like can you even get to the screen to get to this course?
Starting point is 02:27:00 And I was worried I was really worried about technology. How is technology gonna you know work instead of have glitches? But I think it worked pretty well our sim is the worst Yeah, it's there. Yeah, it's not even a sim. It's just a screen It's just I just hit into a blank screen of blank can't don't even turn the computer on cuz I know it's not gonna work Is that how yours is no mine's good at the house. That's cuz you got that Let's talk a little bit about August 15 through 17th as live golf makes its debut in Indianapolis, Indiana. I think y'all should go live out there.
Starting point is 02:27:30 Just do this show live out there. Bubba, you're a businessman as am I. There's a chance, okay? There's a conversation to open. We are open for conversation. Well, we're starting a conversation today. Okay, Crown Prince, God bless him. Would also like to talk to him.
Starting point is 02:27:42 I just now like Live Golf and music. Muke is great. You're not bad actually. Morgan Waller's new album just runs right through. 37 of them. 37 songs. Actually 35. I remember correctly. Somebody yesterday said 35. I watched the show guys. Yeah I think it's actually 36 because I thought there was a An intro there is not an outro. There's just an interlude So it's 36 songs all of them are currently on whatever the top 50 top 100 whatever it is good for him absolute wagon Should he just I don't know just as a business person we could save some of these can't we for another album Yeah, maybe three albums. Yeah, we people are putting out like eight song albums
Starting point is 02:28:23 Yeah, probably tour this for the next 20 years though I agree and he probably will but if he was to put out a 20 song album people would be like holy shit this guy's got 20 songs old buddy just put out seven songs last week and thought it was a big deal and then he could drop a 17 song album on the back end of that I just think because of how he's He sings and how he I think he just is gonna pump out maybe a thousand is he gonna have a thousand bangers Is that what the goal is? I mean, I guess cuz he's young Yeah, and just like golf you can do that. Yeah, he's on his way. You can do that long He's gonna have a thousand bangers. There's gonna be demand to you know, I mean people listen to this album
Starting point is 02:29:02 But then in like two years, it's gonna make but what if his next album only has like nine but that would be a normal ass album exactly you're like well where are the other ones hey brother we did you're missing songs here but he there's a chance he has a thought think about the song catalogs that people are selling right now people are getting like 200 250 million for their catalogs 300 million for the catalogs if he has 500 songs that are all bangers, he's gonna be... Really? Congrats, dude. Congratulations. Keep pumping out. 37 hits. I don't know how he does it. Now, speaking of hits, I very rarely hit the green, but if I get to the green, I can't putt for shit.
Starting point is 02:29:40 We put this in here to try to tempt me into becoming a better putter. Okay, it's right here. Walk across it every single day. Get some putts up. To your point, I hate it. I don't do it because there's seven balls out there. I'll miss every single one. You should not though. Bubba, if you make five? You got a lefty putter? It's fair. Yeah. Is five a good number you think? Gotta be a ping. Do you have a ping? We don't have a ping. Lifetime deal with ping man. I gotta use ping. Yeah I know you gotta deal with ping. What is the- Lifetime. Make sure you say lifetime. Lifetime? That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:30:16 Alright how about this? Will you be able to putt with the unbuffable? I'll just putt with a wedge. What is that the alien wedge? I was watching the golf fix. Thank you very much had pool tubes It was a Under my pool doodles underneath my arms. It was 2 15 a.m And they put the unduffable on the screen and said shit I thought all the time. I'm gonna buy that Guess what you can do with this three easy payments you can well, yes And also you can duff Bubba. I've I've the impossible. Mission. Did you get your money back? No!
Starting point is 02:30:46 You're about to say mission impossible, sorry. Yeah, that's why you need to stop with Tom Cruise slaying. Because he didn't eat the popcorn. He did. No, he did. Let's watch it again. Cue it up. Hold on, so you literally can't pop without a...
Starting point is 02:30:58 Do we have a fucking... I don't think we have a ping. I'm gonna swarm we have a lepty putter though. We do have a lepty putter. A lifetime deal. Boom. We have a ping I can I'm Warren we have a lefty putter though. We do have a lefty putter a lifetime do boom Right ping on yeah, just believe that okay Shoes those are sick
Starting point is 02:31:33 Down it smooth water man. All right smart. Let's see. He said yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, you gotta make Yeah, okay, you gotta make Okay, tone digs and hammered downtown just said do you gamble with Phil yeah I like that. I like that. I like that a lot. I like that play a lot stop gambling This is easy, okay, how about this thing oh it's the unbuffable please have a little respect and it's righty he said I'm gonna give it to Duffa okay so you just five balls there what is a good number here for you to make three with this what no chipping it's chipping oh
Starting point is 02:32:24 okay so to you guys all right you gotta go two out of these next four here. You got two out of there. Hold on, hold on. Geez. In a groove. Darius is going to be at the Pro-Am, I assume, at Chatham Hills. Absolutely. AJ will also do the Chatham Hills Golf Club Pro-Am, right AJ?
Starting point is 02:32:40 I'll do it, yeah. We're making decisions for Liv right now. Yep. Oh. Oh no. Uh-oh. I'll do it, yeah. We're making decisions for Liv right now. Yep. Oh no. Oh no. Uh oh. I was going to say if you make two out of this final four, I'll play in the thing, but.
Starting point is 02:32:54 Yeah, great news. All right. Nope. Well, we're not growing the game. Thank God. I don't have to play that thing. I quit the game. I quit the sport. I was going to have to game. Thank God. I don't have to play that thing. I quit the game. I quit the sport.
Starting point is 02:33:06 I was going to have to actually. His tuck or wedge sucks. No, it's not a wedge. It's unduffable. It's unduffable too. Have a little respect. I bought that off the golf channel. Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:14 They wouldn't put that on the golf channel if it wasn't a real deal. Yeah. I'm happy to see you suck with it too. I suck with it. You suck with it. With what? With whack the wood. Exactly. Defense. All about defense. All right, Bubba. I suck with it. You suck with it. What we whack the wood
Starting point is 02:33:30 Exactly defense all about defense. All right, Bubba. Thank you for coming out here. You're going to a fever game tonight I hope so. Is that tonight? That is tonight. Yeah She's electrifying. Oh, yeah, it's unbelievable. She stepped so I believe she's my wife played in the WBA She played four years pro basketball, but it's Steph Curry. She's Steph Curry. She's doing things. She's running. She's hitting shots She's sitting at half court shot or just inside half court shots at ease. I have to like heave it to get it that far Yeah, and her teammates are awesome too. This year team is like yeah, Leah Boston obviously great Kelsey Mitchell. Don't want to bonner Yeah, she just became a record. Yeah, yeah third all-time leading scorer Yeah, they got a good team new coach Stephanie white I believe her name. She's from Indiana from Connecticut. Yeah, we're connect his son former head coach. Yeah now she's from Indiana
Starting point is 02:34:11 She's back here coaching team. It's like It's like I think the it's worth in that place will be packed out Yeah, please every place that she goes to packed out. She's like the Beatles. She is little Beatles Yeah, they're going to bigger venues so that she can come to town. Now congrats to WNBA. I hope you have a good time tonight. Cuz you sucked with the Unduffable, I am not committing to anything in August. And that's great news, but D-Buck and AJ will definitely be there. Perfect, let's do it.
Starting point is 02:34:34 All right. That'd be more fun with them anyway. Fuck off. Hold on. Boba. Unduffable. Here it is, get the slot just blast one There it is no would be kind of so far right you should just fucking blast one You won't do it
Starting point is 02:35:00 Try to hit this camera look right at the camera Yeah, you want to miss left you don't You're here with it. You got to come across the body. Hits to move, man. They look tight. I just fucked up. Aim for the net. You got to see it. Yeah. Right into the crow's nest. Where are you going with it? Yeah. Crow's nest. You try to go over that camera. I'm zoomed out. Over the camera yeah okay I see Milwaukee yeah just blast it
Starting point is 02:36:03 Oh my gosh. Boom. That was a heck of a shot. Good. Good contact. No, you don't know me. That was the unduffable. Yeah. And it worked.
Starting point is 02:36:12 It's a tight line too. I don't see a hole either. Maybe I'm back. Uh oh. Uh oh. Guess who's back. When's the qualifier for you guys? When's the qualifier for you guys?
Starting point is 02:36:24 It's in December. All right, I got time. Okay It's a little football season, that's gonna be tough. What day of the week? Monday. Okay Before Monday night football in December playoff football. I qualify for a golf league. Let's go Foxy. Let's go Is it still raining outside? Still raining outside? Yeah, you're not a golfer if you're worried about the weather, man. Okay, so we got two holes out back. Thanks. Can't wait to see you hit them.
Starting point is 02:36:47 Can I ask, Bubba, on that note? You got a golf course across the street, too? Yeah. Who's got a question? Sorry. Foxy does. I'm sorry. Yeah, this is actually a selfish question.
Starting point is 02:36:55 On that note, Bubba, let's say you're 75 yards out, all right? Pretty straight shot, pretty simple, straightforward. How many balls is it going to take you to make one shot? Because I've been doing this for about eight months back there and I can't make a single one. Longer than that. Well I mean there's so many factors it was gonna take it's gonna take me what how long you been trying to do it? Eight months let's say. I'm gonna say four for me then. Four months? Yeah. I thought one day. I thought a couple hours. You think you made one? I have. How many hole-in-ones do you have?
Starting point is 02:37:25 You're known for being a dog. Six. Six hole-in-ones? Yeah. In competition or in practice? Total. A couple in competition, but total is six. First one is how old?
Starting point is 02:37:34 It was 2010. When did you start playing? When I was six. Jesus. I got no shot. No. You guys got six since he's six years old? No, no.
Starting point is 02:37:44 I mean, Bruce had one his first year of playing my dad could barely break a hundred and he had one with a three wood from 189 Sliced a three wood in there and he used to run his mouth to me all the time about how I got a hole in one There to count on part three courses Yeah council anytime make a hole in one Honest yeah, cuz the sims are hard to make one. You make one on a sim? Fish bump. X-Golf.
Starting point is 02:38:09 Congratulations, Tyler. I had a witness too. Congrats, Steve. Oh, really? Where was it at? I got it on video, actually. Out here, Noblesville, X-Golf. X-Golf, yeah, yeah, I know about it, yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:17 Pretty solid. Yeah, he's actually an investor in X-Golf. Bubba told me it counts. It definitely does. What if you're just hitting 100 shots shots from one t-box at a hole? Is that more of a chip in or a hole in one? No, well if it's not a real golf course it doesn't count as a hole in one. Well it is a real golf course, thank you. Please it's outside back here. Thunderdome golf course. Yeah it's two holes. There's two blocks. Two holes, one t-box. We get tired after two. We gotta.
Starting point is 02:38:41 Well and we're not walking too, here he is, here he is, here he is. We got a look and we're not walking to here. Yes. Here. Yes. Here is That was yesterday was it really yes every day he has one of those golf gods are not blessing old Fox No, not at all. I mean we get a great master out here small bucket It's about 50 balls green those greens got craters and it looks like the fake moon Yeah, I think the turf needs grass sand. I your us on it. We need to get those trees guys. That's Ross Green hands the green He's great. He came out here two days had the boys on it. Yeah, we really got we got two back Yeah, we got two back here Bubba. That's this I know I saw him when we came in. All right quick So you're gonna hit some sweet you have your clubs? No, but I can yeah, I think I do actually we just landed
Starting point is 02:39:21 So yeah, I got him Okay That's what we're headed look for a video here in a matter of moments of Bubba Probably put one in here if I had to guess quick predictions tonight's games NHL Panthers Hurricanes Panthers Timberwolves Thunder. Oh my gosh. This is a good one. I Don't want to say it, but I'm gonna say it. I think it going to be Timberwolves. Yep. Okay. That's in Oklahoma City. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:49 Oh, it was. Anthony Edwards is, he is a beast. He's a dog. He's a real deal. I'm not saying that Oklahoma City doesn't have a dog, but he is, this guy's on fire. He's, I'm telling you, he's kin to Michael Jordan somehow. He's awesome to watch. They look alike. And they play. They jump alike. They, there is. Yeah, he is. And he's, he is an old school player. You know, you talk to JR Smith, talked to us golfer, JR Smith.
Starting point is 02:40:12 He's trying to- Went back to college, you know? Yeah, he's in college currently. He's a senior. He's captain of the team, I think. He's trying to get down to a zero. He said by the end of the season, he'll probably be scratch golfer or whatever,
Starting point is 02:40:21 try to qualify for the US Open. He absolutely loves the game. He said for Anthony Edwards, like, they need to just let him do mid range, take the US Open he absolutely loves the game he said for Anthony Edwards like they need to just let him do mid-range take to the rack do whatever the hell he wants as opposed over coach him he's like an old-school player I think that's why all the OGs love Anthony Edwards and I think that's why we competitors athletes love Anthony Edwards too it's like he's a dog he can lead that team yeah but that Oklahoma City place Randall's not too bad either though Randall's help helped him out. Randall's helped him out quite a bit.
Starting point is 02:40:45 Let's go to the Knicks fan, Matt Brown. Hey Bruce, how do we feel about Julius Randall playing for the Minnesota Timberwolves? Absolutely love him. He's one of my favorite Knicks players of all time. He came here when no free agents wanted to go to the New York Knicks and he basically built us into what we are today.
Starting point is 02:41:02 Wish nothing but the best for him. And I do think that as a number two option behind Ann Edwards, they can take the Thunder to seven games and maybe get it done. Okay, we got even a prediction from Bruce. I like that. I like everything about that. How do you feel about Pacers, Nix? I'm going Pacers.
Starting point is 02:41:17 And the reason why I'm going Pacers is because- August 15th live event out here. Because Halliburton is unbelievable. Like it's unorthodox. It doesn't look right, but it gets done. Yes. Yeah, it's unbelievable. He's flashy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:31 Flashy runs, showman. He's got merch at www.shop.com right now. But it reminds me of, oh gosh, Sean Marion. Remember when he used to shoot three-pointers? It didn't look right, but he's like, yeah. He would make it. That's about what it looks good shot That's what it looked like he made it
Starting point is 02:41:59 Knocking those done Check back chest pass splash will with leaders cat shooter or cat Williams is a shooter he's got really yes yes you better watch he comes to golf when's that thing December did you lower the goal no he's got Williams he got him up there yeah that's why I was just asking, that's a fair question. No, it's not. Cat Williams is a beast. He was with lethal, you know who lethal shooter is? Oh, Bubba. Content creator.
Starting point is 02:42:31 He's, he would put- And he's a bucket. He would make a, he makes like little gummy bears into like the top of water bottles. That's how good of a shooter he is. Really? Yes, real deal, You should look him up.
Starting point is 02:42:45 I'm looking him up. Lethal shooter. Lethal shooter. He should focus on golf. I think he'd probably be able to figure that out. Sounds like it might be too late. Who do you think is best sport that turns into golfers naturally?
Starting point is 02:42:55 Hockey players, I think very good. Shooters in basketball, normally pretty good. Baseball. Yeah, baseball. Baseball pitchers. Smoltzy. Yeah, Smoltzy, yeah. They're always in a top. Mark Mulder. Smoltz. Yeah, Smoltz. They're always in it at Tahoe.
Starting point is 02:43:06 Mark Mulder. They always have time off. They throw what? Once every two weeks? Yeah. Good point. Here's Lethal Shooter's last one. Toothpick into a straw.
Starting point is 02:43:15 I understand it now. He misses on purpose. Then he makes it. So second try. That's always. I understand it now. Impressive. Dane doesn't.
Starting point is 02:43:24 That's unbelievable. Yeah, Let should or what welcome to the world Mm-hmm. We're gonna go do a trick shot out back where you're gonna make those 75 yard shot Oh, yeah in the rain in the wind. You're not real golfer. You first take boom. That'd be awesome That would be so good standing now. Yeah, AJ you think first take for a bubble? Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I don't know what the conditions are like there, but I assume he can work it out It's drizzling. It's a little breezy. It was gusted when we came in today. It's Indiana You need to know that for August 15th or 17th. It's gonna be windy here. Yep. Always windy here in India I was a punter drafted out here. Oh you were yeah, so played for the Colts
Starting point is 02:43:59 Punting a lot of wind. Hmm did not know that when I got here was was just wind. Was it indoors? So we had a dome possibility, but Jim Ursay liked to showcase also that he could take that top off and the window off. So it actually became a wind tunnel. So I was considered a dome punter by other punters and kickers, but we potentially had the worst setup in all of football for about three quarters of the season. So I got the dome in December, which was... Phenomenal. Great news.
Starting point is 02:44:27 But it's always windy in Indiana, because of how flat it is. So it created the Eddie effect, the wind. Is that what that's called? Yeah, so at Augusta, when it comes down 13 and goes to 12 and 11, creates an Eddie effect. So like sometimes you feel it's downwind and then seconds later it's into the wind.
Starting point is 02:44:41 So that's probably what happened. Yeah, Eddie came into Lucas Oil, fucking every time they open that side window exactly the Eddie effects was all about that thing is that a man you're talking about yeah what how'd you ever hit a one down there no I made one I made one on a practice round on 16 but I've never made one in the tournament made one in the part three tournament my account yeah well yeah it's in the part three tournament My account. Yeah. Well, yeah in the tournament. There's a trophy and everything it counts. Hell. Yeah, I agree Yeah, my son it was 67 yards hole four. My son goes dad. You don't have that shot one hopped it And knocked it in I said hey, I got it now and he goes
Starting point is 02:45:20 Just a dramatic yeah, he's a he needs to do that every hole Just a dramatic. Yeah, he's like. He needs to do that every hole. Exactly. We need to get on the bag. Dad, this ain't it. This ain't you. That's the worst hole.
Starting point is 02:45:28 They're forcing you to play this course. It's not good for your play. All right, let's get out of here. Bubba, we appreciate you. Boys, great work today. AJ, great work. Tone over there and hammer. Dad.
Starting point is 02:45:36 Dad. Great work. Boys in the back. I can't wait to go watch him hit these balls. Please make one, Bubba. I can't wait to watch this. Yeah. Tough greens. Tough greens, buddy tough greens brother they're barely green
Starting point is 02:45:47 tough greens all right befriend tell a friend something nice might change your life we're gonna send together team on me oh i didn't know i was part of the team you fucking are buddy aren't you trying to promote team stuff anyways oh team on me You have anything to say? Nah, go goats. Go goats. Go goats. Sacrifice one. Or two. Fuck it. That'll be... Whatever gets the goats on top.
Starting point is 02:46:16 Team on three. One, two, three, team. Goodbye!

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