The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1345 - Tom Cruise Wednesday With Jamal Crawford, Tom Cruise, Kyle Larson LIVE In The ThunderDome, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys talk about everything surrounding the NBA & NHL Conference finals, and much much more. In the first hour, we are joined by a man who needs n...o introduction, the greatest movie star of all time, Tom Cruise to chat about what led to him becoming a movie star, what he loves about movies, his work ethic & ability to learn to achieve his goals, how he kept the movie business alive through the pandemic, and more. In the second hour, we are joined by the most bad ass race car driver on the planet, Kyle Larson, ahead of his attempt at “The Double” this Sunday, where he will drive in both the Indy 500 & a NASCAR event. Kyle talked about the differences between NASCAR & IndyCar, how cooler conditions may affect the Indy 500, what he’s learned about driving IndyCar so far, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you & will see you tomorrow. Cheers.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunderdome on this Tom Cruise Wednesday May 21st 2025 this program starts now Sports are happening and decision was made to wear jerseys on this particular program about four minutes ago So yeah, everybody has scrambled Connor was certainly the motivator and the driver behind this. That is the toxic table at Boston. Connor wearing the Will Campbell jersey, obviously left tackle. And that is at Ty Schmidt wearing the left tackle of. Yeah, this is the 2024 D bone Murphy
Starting point is 00:00:34 stag bowl champion official jersey. What? Wow. Stag bowl is the D3 national champion. That's right. For those that don't know. Game worn. What?
Starting point is 00:00:44 So he didn't put. We need to put that that into that there's no scuffs on that there's no dirt obviously he was uh he was the alpha that game d3 football player obviously committed to the game that's right d3 left tackle very committed to game I think you had to wash that jersey and he also had to wash his own pads and I don't know if they had a locker room he He tells me they did. I've never seen it. But I am incredibly proud of you supporting D-Bone. Especially after the things that you guys have been saying about D-Bone over the last couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:01:12 What are you talking about? You know what you've been saying. Actually, Bruce got in on today. He took a picture of him eating as if it was a zoo animal. And sent it into the group text today. That's because he was eating bacon and that's cannibalism. You gotta kind of grab that when you can. I am disgusted. I didn't say that. One half of the hammer, dad. Cowboys, AP 10, love what you're doing with the Jersey brother. Yeah it's
Starting point is 00:01:34 not a lot of people think it's a Pat Friar Moose Jersey. It's not. It's just a moose. Oh it's possible. Moth. Moth. Yeah Friar Moose obviously absolute dog for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Who's going to be his quarterback? Is it going to be Mason Crosby or is it going to be Aaron Rodgers? Hopefully it's Mason. I don't want Aaron anymore. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:54 What? Tony! We are live. I mean Mason showed up a week early. He was making no cards forever. All of his teammates writing down plays. He's just the leader of the team right now what's Aaron doing squirting squirt guns it's concerts what are you talking about? You're talking about down at Mike Studs?
Starting point is 00:02:11 I believe that's where I saw it okay one of them focused on football one of them's at a concert squirting squirt guns one of them is in Mount Rushmore football players one of them I don't care. Yeah great goatee great goatee. Yeah, great goatee, great goatee. It'll get all sorted. Didn't a biographer come out and say- This week? Yeah, that Aaron's gonna make a decision this week. That would make no sense for everything that Aaron has said.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Aaron said, I'm not committing to OTAs for anybody. I'm 41 years old. I got a lot going on in my life. And I don't want it to become a big scene like it was for the Jets. I was at 98% of their workouts. Then I had to go to Egypt. I think it had been planned.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Obviously June 12th, 2024. Right. 6, 12, 24. I had to go to Egypt. I think it had been planned. Obviously June 12th, 2024, six, 12, 24, had to go over to Egypt and that just so happened to be whenever this was happening, everybody said I was a terrible teammate even though I was at all of them before that. So I wasn't gonna commit to any team and tell them that I was gonna play for them, make a big scene out of it,
Starting point is 00:02:59 and then miss the entire OTAs, which was gonna happen because of things going on in his personal life and then everybody has said, well this week He's gonna make a decision this week is gonna make a decision Biographers says he's gonna make a decision It's like Aaron has said he's not making a decision to after OTAs that that is what he said now Maybe you like which is what a lot of people think or maybe he just said exactly
Starting point is 00:03:16 How this is gonna roll out and he doesn't know if he's still playing I think that is all to be just determined as well to be honest my real motivation for Mason to be a quarterback show I could shove that 0 and 6 up or Lofsky's ass this week this season you think So they're going oh so Mason root so no Dan said with Mason Rudolph the Steelers are gonna start oh and six Oh, so you want them to prove Emmy award-winning? Yeah, yeah, Dan or Lofsky wrong with Mason Rudolph Yeah, so if Aaron signs I don't get to dunk on Dan as heart Congrats to Dan Rolof ski baby down
Starting point is 00:03:49 Hard work always always Always pays off that's not true This represents a lot Can I finish? Not your NFL fan, David, Steve, bother as you. But I love Dan. I love you, Con. I love you. We will get into the more Sean conversation because it feels as if there is a chance
Starting point is 00:04:12 that the Caniacs just started something with the Panthers that is going to make Game 2 electrifying from puck drop. I do believe there's a chance a 5 on 5 fight is about to happen in Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals in the NHL, which is a beautiful thing. It's great for hockey. Hopefully nobody gets hurt. Hopefully the boys are able to survive.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But Dan Rolofsky and NFL Live win the outstanding daily show Emmy, sports Emmy. Very happy for Dan. Dan put out a tweet in the morning and we, hand our fault had no idea those enemies realized they did it did nobody knew no I didn't tell nobody said a thing game big game I don't think it was meant exactly the conference finals are happening here we it was not mentioned one time in this entire Thunderdome I don't think no kind of bummed out about that because I was kind of looking forward to because you know coach Saban was up for an award and I was incredibly pumped for him congrats coach Saban. Now outstanding emerging on-air talent coach Saban I
Starting point is 00:05:13 sent him a text way after he won because once again I had no idea so it's hours later which is why he might have seen it because I couldn't even imagine how many things and I just told him like I don't think I've seen anybody that has been portrayed as a stiff uh be able to transfer into a television legend as quickly and as smoothly as he was able to do it and I told him like the resume only gets you a few weeks like it's great small time got to listen to what he says it's great small time got to listen what he says it's great small time it's like when celebrities go and do like a stand-up tour like their name gets them like the first couple shows people buy, but at some point you got to be good.
Starting point is 00:05:49 At some point you got to keep them there. It's not just your resume. It's not just what you're able to do as a coach. You got to be a TV person and you got to be able to be good at giving your message. You got to be good at having your message and you got to have moxie. And I'll tell you what, the thing that set this man,
Starting point is 00:06:04 old St. Nick up the greatest of all time in college ball his Moxie was Stupendous his amount of swagger his confidence his ability to just kind of let loose a little bit more than people thought while also being able to Deliver messages that I think all of college football was wanting him to say and all of college football is listening to him say He became one of the best people on all of television very quickly and It was an honor sit next to him. Congrats coach. You did Yeah loves college ball loves college ball there's sometimes where I think he wants to say something he's like I don't know if I want
Starting point is 00:06:36 To burn it down, you know He's watching him like pick and choose what he wants to it's been and so prepared I mean like of course overly ridiculously prepared because his entire life he spent watching film So now he just watches film for you know college game day, and it's like we all get the benefit from it I don't know if we need to do a hundred film sessions with him But I do love whenever he is talking ball. Yeah, I don't like for sure I think in letting him just kind of do his thing, he has certainly earned that, put a lot of work in it. And I assume that's the first of many that are coming
Starting point is 00:07:11 to Coach Saban's trophy case, which is so awesome. You've seen it, right? His house, yeah. He's got that wing. He's got a wing of his house that he built for recruiting. So they were like host basically. So he's got this beautiful home, beautiful home. And Ms. Tara is a phenomenal cook.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And they have like the perfect setup to like host. Like it was very clear that this house was set up to like host and then they added an entire wing basically for like recruiting trips for families. That's where you see him doing the two step shit shit and whenever he's doing the entire electric slide. I saw somebody on the internet doing the electric slide the other day. I thought for sure they would know the electric slide. I'm not gonna say anything but I watched the video and I was like I don't think I've ever seen that style but yeah that's the room. They have all the jerseys of guys around the room Imagine what that room was
Starting point is 00:08:07 Trophies everywhere. So cool. Yeah, and then he got a card table over here. He's like I place cards over here now, dude I've seen the dance Yeah, I think he's a good player too. I think he felt like he obligated to be great too I probably helped him. So let me get you straight if I'm good at spades is good for recruiting Yeah, sounds good. Somebody needs to teach me how to play Spades. And I assume that this is the first of many for Coach Saban. Speaking of first of many, congrats College Game Day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Congrats College Game Day. Obviously that show is an institution. That show shows up at campuses and every person there feels obligated to go show up for their school and represent for their school. And what College Game Day has done for so long is, in their eyes, I think the way College Game Day says it,
Starting point is 00:08:53 is like just showcase college football. Like that is basically the goal, is to showcase the sport that they are obsessed with. And I've talked about this numerous times after getting a chance to meet the people behind the scenes who've been with Game Day a long time. So they've been with ESPN a long time, So they've been with ESPN a long time, and they've been with college football a long time.
Starting point is 00:09:08 So those are two groups that, you know, I don't think are the biggest fans of mine. Those people have, you know, like if you just look at the people been around ESPN a long time, probably not the biggest fan of ours. Old school college football people, whenever I got in college hated my guts. So both those people were the people that were running college game
Starting point is 00:09:28 day behind the scenes. So it's an interesting dynamic them trying to adjust to me being dropped into their world because that hiring came above them. So I'm just dropped in the middle of the season into their world. So the way they have treated me and like kind of adjusted to me has been very cool but watching them just be the wagon that they've been for 30 years and how they do things and their passion for college football is just very real. And I think that's why when people get all pissed off
Starting point is 00:09:54 at ESPN for things that happen in college football world, all ESPN is doing this, ESPN is doing this. It's like, I know you love college football and that's why you were passionate about it. But the people that are working in the college football world at ESPN are obsessed with like the people that are working in the college football world at ESPN are obsessed with, like the people that are actually making decisions. They like literally eat, sleep, and breathe college football.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So it's nice to see them get acknowledged by their peers for all their hard work and shout out to Daniel in the vans. Shout out to Daniel in the vans. What a moment. Shout out to you though, man. You got to, obviously you play a huge, huge part. They've been doing it for a long time. College football has been around forever.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Football obviously has to evolve, but the coverage and the shit that we watch has to evolve. I know at least my age group, my friend group, and down for sure, like huge, girl. I don't know the numbers and what they have been and what's worked before you got there. Highest rated seasons in the last three years, yeah, yeah. So yeah, yeah, big, big part of it.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Not only those moments, but what you guys do, you and Saban working together. I think you had a big part of, you know, teammates. It's all dope and the whole crew, Kirk, uh, everybody that does their thing. Desmond, Dez, Reeves, everybody. Stanford, Steve Coughlin, Pete, Jen Lada, Jess Sims. I mean, you start rolling through the people that are on camera for that. I think Marty even did some stuff for us. McGee did some stuff right for the season. It's like a really talented group of people. And then the crew, the truck
Starting point is 00:11:09 drivers, the camera people, uh, Roman, uh, Mike, Johnny, Mike, Johnny violence, Mike, yeah, Johnny Brosio, obviously behind the scenes, his entire crew. There's a lot. That's a whole, that is a village of people that kind of pick up and move all football season. So congrats to college game day way to go. Congrats to Saban, congrats to NFL live winning. That's where Dan Roloff's going. The people, I don't want to undersell it. I'm not going to do that. A friend of the program, Peter Schrager, came on the day after Good Morning Football won an Emmy a few years back. program, Peter Schrager came on the day after Good Morning Football won an Emmy a few years back.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And it was like when Alexander Ovechkin won Stanley Cup first time. Fast David's line. Marriage, kids, Emmy. Yeah, for real. And I think it's just because I didn't grow up in the TV world. And I don't think I went to any TV. I never really had the, didn't know this was going to be life.
Starting point is 00:12:01 So I don't think I fully understand and comprehend it. People get really pumped up about those. Oh, yeah. It's like a career defining thing. Yeah, they get really, really pumped life. So I don't think I fully understand and comprehend it. People get really pumped up about this. Oh yeah, it's like a career defining thing. Yeah, they get really, really pumped up. So congrats everybody, the one last thing. Shout out to Molly, remember from NBC? Oh yeah. The Olympics?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Legend, absolute legend. We got a chance to meet her. She came out here. Yeah. She wanted to come out here and talk to us. She was awesome. She really did.
Starting point is 00:12:21 It was before we, before I ended up licensing my show anywhere, Molly came and pitched for us to be a part of like the Olympic coverage. She really did it was before we before I end up licensing my show anywhere Molly came and pitched for us to be a part of like the Olympic coverage She was like we need you in the Olympic coverage and I'm like I don't know if that's gonna be possible if we end up going anywhere else and she was like well Let me show you why we need to make it happen gave a full she had a full presentation. Yeah, she's a dog sold us Yeah, she definitely did like all right. We're gonna try to figure that out So assume that we would do something with the Olympics at some point as Molly continues to run it if we are still welcome But watching her give a speech
Starting point is 00:12:48 I was like thinking to myself like that's a lady that is fully committed to the Olympic coverage and she wins It's like congrats all of them over there. That was a big night over there in New York City. I think yeah. Yeah Think of the amount of humans over there that despise us. Could you imagine we walk into that place? We walk in this place the suits would just everything would just the ties would just get super tighter over there what an interesting world interesting world or Lovsky though Emmy award winner yeah well deserved damn right you think it was for that uh virtual reality shit they did uh no they were up for one two i'm not sure if hawk. I know he won, he's a part of NFL Live too, but Hawk, Andrew Hawk. Oh, Hawk.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah, but I know they were there. Hawk has Emmys, brother. Yeah. Because of the stuff that Dan was doing with the Status Pro on air. All right, let's talk about the sports that took place last night, conference finals started for the NHL Eastern Conference.
Starting point is 00:13:40 The Caniacs and the Florida Panthers, this one started out as a physical fight, didn't it, Con Man? Yeah, they were kind of going at it right off the bat. I believe there was one shot in the first eight minutes and 17 hits, something along those lines. And it was incredible hockey. Last night was a great reminder that this week and next week, hopefully, you know, God willing, that these sports continue to go and that we don't have a lot of what was last night continues on. But you love the conference finals the Cats were just dominant they scored early on the paraplay and their paraplay hadn't been good I'm pretty sure the Hurricanes had
Starting point is 00:14:12 the number one penalty kill in the playoffs in the in the Cats I think were tenth but yeah that backhand right out the top Ekblad top right piping in to shortly thereafter filthy goal that's actually the Canes captain Jordan Stahl turning it over and then Eggblad how you doing right where mama hides the cookies that was wonderful and it continued Carolina got one at the end of the first period but that was basically all she wrote the Panthers continued to roll 3-1 here beautiful one-timer on on the break. Another one on the power play in the third. And that was basically it. And what you're not really seeing from these highlights is that
Starting point is 00:14:51 once the Cats got up, they said, okay. The Cats or the Florida Panthers. The Florida Panthers. They basically said, yeah, time to hunt. We're not really going for the puck. We're not really going for the goal. Let's hit some people Marcy goes into Shane Gostespierre Almost takes his head off, but that's what they're trying to do Gostespierre Fires a wrist shot at Marcy. It was disgusting Stronger than a wrist or I'll tell you about 20 feet away from his net Again, I go Bart out with a risk there. That's all they teach it
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, a lot of people saying cop bomb a lot of people saying riskier, but they dropped the mitts immediately and marshy I think he got the last laugh to say the least well not only the last laugh He ends up getting a four minute if I he gets ends up getting kicked out But like a lot of people in the hockey world including including the Panthers locker room, were asked about old Buddy, clearly just firing a puck at Marshawn. This is not happening, Hawk. Like this is not a thing that just happens, especially that far back in their own end or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That guy was clearly trying to hit Marshawn with a puck. And Marshawn, what? I don't think so. This is not how this is gonna go. And decides to go fight him. And he's like, I don't think that's how it works. All the Panthers were asked about this afterwards, this afterwards and they all just basically said no comment No comment no comment and the Florida Panthers are a team that is very scrappy. This guy's not the guy for the hurricanes
Starting point is 00:16:14 He just you know, he just got a little bit his feelings I guess and thought he was gonna do something and it's like I think game two is gonna start with the Panthers saying what was that? And then Marsha let the refs know that they don't know ball either. Is he gonna kick me out for what this guy did? This guy just disrespected the entire game. Darius, I know all of South Florida has been following hockey a long time.
Starting point is 00:16:33 A long time. Obviously the team's only been on there for 31 years, but we've been pretty successful. We've been on a good run here. We've got some good history down there. And we love the makeup of the team. Their physical, the comment talked about how physical the game was.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I mean, that plays right to our wheelhouse. And then we're also skilled enough to put the puck on it. Now they out shot us, but that doesn't matter. Uh, Bob was on, on this thing as well. And they took a little, little dirty shot at Bob. I thought he was very unbothered as well when they talked to him, uh, after the game. So I can't wait to see how game two starts off until your, when they were X, I believe it was Greer X immediately from the TNT broadcast. He said, uh, got no comment on it.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Paul Maurice and we know how vocal he could be about some things. He said, I definitely have thoughts, but you know, won't speak on it. So they'll have, this is going to be a national anthem type thing with the, uh, kind of thing. You don't normally see that because nobody wants to take any penalties because it's this far along in the playoffs and it's Eastern Conference finals. So if you fight you're gonna take a penalty but if it's five on five they're gonna have to figure out who's all who's all gonna get the penalty here is how it's gonna be. Who's the goalie for the Caniacs Nick?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Freddie Anderson. I'll tell you what Globside High seems to be the tape. That is where everybody was going with the shots clearly where they were headed and we talked to Patty Maroon and we talked to some of the other hockey lads and they talked about how during the playoffs in a seven-game series and how much film study you're doing on your opponent mostly on the goalie. High glove side appears to be where they think they need to pepper and it was certainly working last night. If I'm what's a buddy's name for Carolina? Oh the goalie Freddy Anderson. Freddy Anderson needs to figure out how to play catch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I think that is going to be a pretty high targeted area if I had to guess. Also NHL tonight we have the Panthers. Yes we have the the Oilers taking on the Stars. Cannot wait to watch Conor McJesus continue his run to hopefully his first ever Lord Stanley Cup and on the other side in the net American Otter has been standing on his head Can't wait for the NHL Stanley Cup playoff to continue last night in the NBA the Oklahoma City Thunder Demolished the Minnesota Timberwolves, although that is not how the game started out at all Timberwolves had a lead looked like the Timberwolves are gonna win that game in Oklahoma City set the tone and I was feeling like I was
Starting point is 00:18:48 Genius because I was starting to think to myself like who is gonna stop and man He's gonna be able to what he rolls his ankle pretty bad goes to the back comes back out later I don't know how these basketball guys are able to roll their ankles and then come back so quickly Legitimately, I don't I don't understand at all that happens to me. I'm out three four days Yeah, my ankles the size of a beach ball He's jogging back out with a smile on his face going out there But by that point Oklahoma City had turned that thing around this guy SGA He's good he is good. He's good player. No doubt
Starting point is 00:19:20 VVP yes, he ain't better than Yoke. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, legend in the basketball world. Twenty years he was in the NBA, former eighth overall pick. He's now a head coach. Okay, he knows ball. That's right. He's coastal elitist as well. Don't forget it, lives in Seattle. Ladies and gentlemen, Jamal Crawford.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, Jamal. How you doing, crossover? What up, y'all? How you doing? Okay, I was about to say it. SGA, I'm going to say SGA I'm gonna say... What you gonna say you're kicking I see that flip movie what you gonna say? Yeah a lot of you know and there was a couple and there was a couple not even
Starting point is 00:19:55 touching them were falling on the ground getting the calls because with how physical the NBA has been not only this year but certainly this this playoffs there's been a lot more bang and seemingly getting back he's like a throwback to like five years ago four years ago when everybody was flopping all over the place is that a skill is that like how should i be viewing this should i not i hate it i shouldn't hate it you you shouldn't hate it because look if you took out all his free throws he would still lead the league in scoring. Okay. Okay. Yeah, you can't hate it. And he's not, it's not like we're playing the summer, it's 14-14, he's calling, he's bad, calls it LA Fitness, like the refs are actually calling the calls and people, it's
Starting point is 00:20:33 a narrative out there about it. Excuse me, that's my coaching voice. And people are still calling it. So it's not his fault, he's just playing the game. Yeah. But he was still leading the league in scoring. Okay, so I appreciate that stat and understanding that. so I need to appreciate everything that he does on the court Not just this shit that is off the watch father. Yeah, okay
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah, it is tough to watch with this I think the world told the NBA that was tough to watch whenever that was happening over the last couple. Oh, yeah Yeah, hey, this is not what we're looking for SGA is taking advantage of the rules I guess we shouldn't blame him. I guess we shouldn't blame them. Congrats, Oklahoma City, get a big win. Now with that being said, they're down early to the Minnesota Timberwolves and then they come back and demolish in game one. OKC, is this their year? Is this expected at this point with how great their season was and how great they've been throughout the playoffs? Well, think about it, Pat. They lost 14 games the
Starting point is 00:21:24 whole year Like there's something different and they're young most of the time you shouldn't be this good this young and their coach Like I said before he's a star on the sideline He's so in tune with how they're playing But they're they're like a really really good college team all their boys stuck together and they just went on to the same team That's how they're playing. They have no jealousy You know we used to clown like why is there eight dudes in an interview? Like there are eight dudes in an interview
Starting point is 00:21:47 because that's how tight they are. And you see it now, they're my pick to win the finals. Man, in Oklahoma City too, it feels like the perfect place to have that type of team. That like leads to the conversation about tonight. Here in Indiana, this Pacers team matches the city perfectly. The way they play, the way they operate,
Starting point is 00:22:04 how they talk, Coach Carlisle, the way he operates. Tyrese, like perfect superstar for Indiana because he's, yeah, he's kind of a nerd. He talks about Catan. Yeah, he plays Catan. He's a Mark. WWE massive fan. But when he gets on the court, he's a dog and he's a showman and he has the ability and they run and they play physical they play great defense and they're having great success this Pacers team fits our city perfectly and it feels like the Knicks team fits New York perfectly. How pumped are you for this Eastern Conference Finals and what are your expectations out of it all? I think it's going to be great like you said Indiana's playing fast They're playing physical and like you said Halliburton's a magician
Starting point is 00:22:46 He sees things on the court where he's no looking he looks he locks eyes with this defender throws it over here Locks eyes with both defenders jump passes past the last second and they're feeding off of that and he has a tenacity in Nature of hitting the big shot if it's a close game We talked about clutch Brunson and how good he is in the clutch, which he is. Halliburton, you know, he can do his San Francisco big, you know what walk as well because he, he has some heart and he had, yeah, you know, it's welcome. Talking about the yeah, sorry about these balls. They keep hitting off my legs. That's what he said. I think he's talking about basketball. Yeah, yeah. He's talking about basketballs there. I think that was the middle of Cleveland there. But it's not just him. And I think he's talking about basketball yeah yeah he's talking about basketballs there I think that was the middle of Cleveland there but it's not just him and I think I hear every NBA person on television that talks about it
Starting point is 00:23:32 they're like the depth of the Pacers the depth of the Pacers you never know who it's gonna be it might be Nemhard might be Neesmith might be Myles Turner might be Pasquale Siakam shit TJ McConnell might come in there and put up some points and obviously it might be Tyrese as well is that what you need for a deep playoff run? Obviously because injuries are gonna happen guys gonna have off nights Do you think that's the most important part of it and do the Knicks have the same thing? You definitely need that for sure but you also need the guys who don't regularly play to be engaged the whole time because You can win two minutes when you go in that changed the whole course of the game
Starting point is 00:24:02 So it's not like you have to go in the whole game and play well the whole game If you can play well for two or three minutes and that's for to get your starters back to give them some life to give them Some rest as well give your coach a little bit of confidence. That's what the games are one those other guys step up That's when the magic happens and Indiana is rolling New York is rolling as well They figure it out New York is that it its best when five guys are in double figures. Indiana kind of the same thing. And I think Carlisle's doing an unbelievable job. Like he's been there before. He's won a championship. He's not afraid to go zone. He'll do whatever it takes to win. He's a genius on the sideline. And Tibbs has done well with New York. So I'm ready for this. Could go seven games.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Okay. I like that. Sounds like he likes what the Pacers is doing. Go ahead, D-Buck. I like what the Pacers is doing too. ahead, D-Buck. I like what the Pacers are doing too. Yeah, we all do, don't we? Damn right. I want to ask you about the markets though, kind of the outside noise, especially at this time of the year with the playoffs. You played a handful of years in New York, so you know a lot about it. How different is that playing in a city with a fan base like New York and that media market
Starting point is 00:25:02 compared to other places, especially on this stage, it has been so long since New York is a hunger banner. It's unbelievable. It's been 25 years since they didn't meet the conference final game. I think five of the last years when they're playing Boston when they I think was a game Tatum got hurt myself, Vince Carter, Reggie Miller, Mike Tirico. We're in New York handling business on the NBC up front and we're watching the game and when they're playing well The whole room is going crazy and it wasn't us
Starting point is 00:25:27 We're not biased but you can tell that the city is electric on all fronts right now. So it's gonna be a great series I know Halliburton loves playing there obviously the Knicks feel like they're on a mission and Both these series right now could go seven games and that's what we want is fans because the whole world is watching you putting your Best product out there. You're at the up front huh yeah I was up I graduated I graduated up front big money in those up front oh yeah some hands in their crossover shake some hands cross some people they asked about the handle they asked about the handle at all time yep some they don't make
Starting point is 00:26:00 that face when they do it but they asked about the handle. Mr. Jamal Crawford, how you doing? I still got it. I still got 40 fly. Still got it. Those 55 year old suits that control like $100 million worth of advertising. I'll tell you what, Juicy Cross, I already crossed me up earlier today. I thought I had them though. Yeah, you're making dreams
Starting point is 00:26:20 come true over there, Jamal. It's good business. Smart idea. You know ball too, you're great at talking about it. Which is why we're thankful you're here. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Jamal it's good business smart idea you know ball too you're great at talking about it which is why we're thankful you're here Connor has a question for you yeah Jamal you played during kind of the dynasty eras almost you know with the Lakers and then the Spurs then the Heaters yeah Warriors of course of course yeah I'm trying to think of them while there's been a few but how do you feel about the you know the difference the parody now I think this is the seventh straight year with a new champion it's kind of a different NBA that's kind of conversation people are having now is is the dynasty better I know during the dynasty people don't
Starting point is 00:26:52 like it and then when there's not a dynasty people kind of want is it one of those situations and also I hope your pinkies okay it looks like you got crossed up possibly fell on your hand and broke your broke your pinky there no no no Connor I finally played defense and I don't know why and that's where we went back To put a put on the show play some defense and broke it. Don't worry about that But I think I like it better like this as a kid growing up. I love the Celtics dynasty I love the Lakers who they had magic and Kareem and Scott and worthy I could identify the guys were staying, you know, one team for eight, nine years.
Starting point is 00:27:25 But I like it now having one or two stars and guys around them because you feel like everybody has a chance. You feel like it's parody. You feel like you don't know, you know, who's going to step up. And that's where stars really write their greatness when they have the least amount of help and still find a way to get it done. So for me, I love having the period right now. I think it's great for the NBA to see more
Starting point is 00:27:45 teams winning more success more cities experiencing championships more cities experiencing parades. Okay, he's conference finals here. Who's gonna be who's gonna continue? Who's gonna continue? I know you're gonna end with this book with all that Indiana stuff you have on and around you and just the war you have right now the Pacers I see it But I gotta go with the Nixon. Yes Don't need to blow the whistle on that is that a whistle? Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:16 Jamal Crawford coastal enist like I thought go with a big city happen in the West happen in the West in the West I got okay see. All right. I think they've been the best team. I think if they just win their home games the rest of the way, they'll win the championship because they have that home court advantage. So I got OKC winning it. We appreciate the hell out of you.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Ladies and gentlemen, Jamal Crawford. Yeah, Jamal. All right, ladies and gentlemen, he's the best. Yeah. He should be on TV more. I don't know if he wants to be because he's coaching and doing all that with his kids and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:28:46 He is always so cool to us. So very thankful to Jamal Crawford. With that being said, we had the opportunity yesterday, last night to be exact, to find some time within the greatest actor's schedule. And what was supposed to be a 10 to 15 minute conversation, because I believe he's doing, he was in a different country, obviously.
Starting point is 00:29:07 He was in a different country. He was in New York, I think, two nights ago. Then he flew, he was filming, I think, again. We'll get into it. He's in a different country. So we're able to find, it's supposed to be 10 to 15 minutes. Strap in, okay?
Starting point is 00:29:19 Because not only is Mission Impossible about to be insane tomorrow, final reckoning, but also we just, we got a 35 minute conversation with Tom Cruise here and I think he, I think he dives into some stuff he's maybe never chatted about. I think that's the case. We're incredibly thankful and lucky for this and let's get to it. Ladies and gentlemen, Mission Impossible Final Reckoning is in theaters tomorrow and we have an exclusive from Paramount!
Starting point is 00:29:48 Jeez. 20 feet above the water above the rock if there is a downdraft there is no room for correction the plane is going in jeez ladies and gentlemen the man who is dangling from that wing the man who has been captivating audience for decades and decades and decades the man who has $12 billion in box office, the greatest actor on the earth, the man who Spielberg said saved the acting and movie industry. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, Tom Cruise. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Thank you. Tom, can we get a shot of the boys here real quick just to hit the pure joy to be here, man Let's go. It's great to be here. Hey guys It is an honor to be here. It is an honor to have you. It's an honor for me. You look amazing You look like you're glowing and for good reason We had a couple of the boys check out Mission Impossible final reckoning this morning. They've been hovering above earth They'll ask you about that in a moment. I want to dive in to a conversation about you. And every time we see you do a promo or a video, you're jumping out of something, you're flying something. And it's always, see you at the movies.
Starting point is 00:31:14 See you at the movies. In our world, the sports world, all the GOATs talk about their love of the game, their love of the sport. It feels like you love the movies. You love everything about the industry. When did that start? Were you a kid? Did you know this was going to be it? How did you kind of get into this? I honestly, I hoped that I would be able to make movies. My goal, I remember when I was four years old, I wanted to make movies. I wanted to travel the world. I wanted to fly jets and airplanes. I wanted to visit and work in different cultures. That was just a lifelong dream of mine.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I've always been, had an adventurous spirit and just that kind of life I wanted. So it's, and it is, it's something that is not what I do. It is who I am and my whole life is dedicated to it. How, I look at a body as like kind of a car and how do I train my car so that I can do this for the rest of my life. I had that opportunity. And I didn't go to film school, I didn't go to acting school, but I studied movies. And when I got onto a movie set for the first time and, you know, I just studied every single
Starting point is 00:32:19 department and really started to understand, you know, what the culture is and how to create a culture of that where people can really flourish and do their best work. Those are the kind of things, like as a kid I learned a work ethic. I always had jobs when I was growing up. We all in our family, I just worked. I had paper routes and cutting grass. It was very interesting. I kind of reflected upon this as I was making movies and kind of always ran my own business.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Just knowing that the better I was at what I did, it made it that if I didn't cut the grass right, I didn't get the job. So I better learn how to understand how to do the best I can with cutting that grass and and that would ensure you know that I was able to do a great job for the neighborhood for the person and they were happy you know and then they want to be back to do the job and so I you know those kind of basics of discipline of learning a craft of my interest in life I'm not just you know it's movies encompasses cultures encompasses engineering and you know I fly's movies encompasses cultures, encompasses engineering, and you know,
Starting point is 00:33:25 I fly jets, aerobatics, and aircraft, and I sing and train and dancing, and I'm constantly studying engineering and mechanics and history and architecture, and also studying to be what it is to be a leader, you know? And so all of these things, it's just, it's life, and I love it, I love it, absolutely love it. Well, I think you found the right place.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I think you found the right profession. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they all, all those- You know, beforehand, when I started, it was like, look, you know what it takes. You know, and my door is always open to everybody. Like, I'm always a student, I'm always studying, I'm always learning, and my door is always open, everybody to go like'm always a student, I'm always studying, I'm always learning,
Starting point is 00:34:05 and my door is always open to everybody to go like, look, these are the things that I did. Because knowledge, there's so much knowledge out there, but what knowledge can you learn that's going to improve your ability for your goals? So that I'm looking for knowledge that I can apply, that I can get the result every single time and how do that it's effective. So those things that I evaluate for myself and you know I'm very much looking at what works for me, what is storytelling for me, but it takes a kind of passion and real discipline and relentless pursuit of this field and you know that from what you've done in your life. I mean we talked about it earlier of what you've accomplished in sports
Starting point is 00:34:46 and then what you did, you know, to get to where you are with your show right now. You have that mental state and I tell people, it's like, you want your goals, you just have to think about how, what you need to know to get there. Yeah, I think work ethic is the most important thing that you can have.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I have a daughter now, two years old. And I just, yeah, you too, I think. You were thinking the same thing, it sounds like. Yeah, same thing, and it's character. With success, it does reveal character and your discipline, and also it's understanding, my movies are not me, it's all of us. It's how do I help every single person? And when you're producing films and I produce movies, it's understanding every single department. You
Starting point is 00:35:31 have to be able to do those jobs. You've got to understand what everyone's going through and how to help them and align everyone so that you can create the best possible film for audiences. And my goal is I make movies for audiences. Whatever, however the wide range of cinema that I make, you know, I have a wide range of interests. And so I'm constantly studying that particular genre, whether it's a thriller, action, comedy, I'll go into it and go, how can I entertain the audience that's going to love that?
Starting point is 00:36:00 And that is my goal. My goal is that global audiences and how do I do that? Well, mission accomplished. Yeah. Amen. Some would say the mission was impossible at the beginning. Mission accomplished. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It was impossible. Many times I've been told that. So I appreciate that. Many times. I'll do the low hanging fruit right there, especially on the eve here of final reckoning. So you talk about the work ethic and wanting to know every part of the business and obviously the full team that goes into everything and the team effort to make these massive, massive movies that obviously do numbers
Starting point is 00:36:32 and entertain the entire world and make people escape from life, which is a very important part of our society. But I feel like you- That's what I wanna do. Yeah, and you do that. I just wanna let you know that. As a person who has been a fan of yours for a long time,
Starting point is 00:36:43 you certainly make us all forget about life and also realize that there is An alien walking among the amount of things that you can do. You just talked about it. I'm learning engineering I'm learning how to be a helicopter pilot. I'm flying jets. I'm hanging off there When did you decide is that just your view of what an actor is supposed to be when you do all your own stunts? And because there's not a lot of that, right? I mean, that's not a very normal thing. I've seen the clips of you running, breaking your leg and continuing to do it. When did you decide you were gonna do everything?
Starting point is 00:37:10 Like literally everything. Always. Yeah, always? You know, always. I just, my interest in life and things that I wanna know about and how can I accumulate. The derivation of art is skill.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And I've always just kind of wanted to live my life like that and develop skills in many different areas. I have a wide range of interest in life. So whether I'm parachuting, skydiving, flying aerobatic helicopters or airplanes, or I like to dance and sing and, you know, I love music. So I take time to study these things. It's always been my whole life. But if you look at the history of movies, movies they used to take an actor and they
Starting point is 00:37:52 would say here are these abilities and if you look my films are when I'm working with people not just actors but people in all different aspects of filmmaking, what I'm looking for is that ability and to utilize those abilities, increase those abilities. And when you look at cinema, they used to take actors and train them in singing and dancing and elocution and different languages. And they taught them about acting and lighting and lenses. So all of these things that I was just doing naturally, I didn't quite realize what I was doing. I just, my natural curiosity to know things, you know, to, and not just, look, I'm not somebody who just reads things and does it. I want to experience
Starting point is 00:38:38 it. I'm looking at it and I'm kind of viewing what's true for me. What are storytelling for me personally, not just what someone says it is. So those things that are just natural to me. So what I've also done is as I'm learning these things and I studied film in every department, then I studied the studio system, then I studied distribution.
Starting point is 00:39:01 And my ultimate goal was really understanding culture and life and how I can make my movies to engage in those different cultures, celebrate them and also to understand them and go to see their movies in different cultures and how can I communicate in that way. So, if you look at way Hollywood was and that's how I structured, like I get actors and crew and I'm training them. I'm teaching them and I encourage artists to go out and not wait to get a job but you got to train. Like what kind of movies do you want to make and if you want to do musicals like go train on musicals and tap and I'm I look at an actor and I'm I'm not just having a script that's there's
Starting point is 00:39:41 the character and let's find the actor who played this this character I'm looking at I'm looking at the actor and going boy look at the light that this actor has look at the ability that this actor has and I'm looking to take a light and shine it on that and then let it grow so if you look at movies like when I'm hiring you know Renee Zellweger for Jerry Maguire or any cast member that I'm doing, I spend more time on their performances with the camera on them. And then I, as we're exploring the story and developing it,
Starting point is 00:40:12 it's very much, you know, like the, I think the great coaches, there is the relevance of someone looking at the ability of the talent you have, and how do we structure the defense or offense for that. But I'm looking at here's the story, emotional story I want to tell. Here's the enormously talented artists that I have in every area and how do I maximize that talent with this story and what is that story. So that it's that kind of engagement for everyone and that I'm celebrating these artists.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I have a thing where I want people to do better after working with me. I want them to go out and be able to have a broader sense of the craft, have greater opportunities. So that's always been kind of a quiet goal of mine. Well, listening to your passion, not just in obviously this conversation, this conversation anytime you speak I mean your promo tour right now going around to these different movie theaters talking about your passion for the popcorn in the movie theaters and certainly something that'll be brought it's gonna be brought up there it's quite a discussion happening on our show about that. I love popcorn. Oh we've heard and we've seen too. That'll get
Starting point is 00:41:21 that'll definitely get brought up but your passion is obviously very evident and it radiates through the screen whenever we watch you, no matter what you're doing. Whether you are Jerry Maguire or you're a pilot American made or you're a collateral bad guy or you're a fatso in Tropic.org or anything like like, hey, this guy saved the industry. And that's obviously something that I assume you want to deflect to the entire team. And obviously you talk about your team in a way that any great leader would, any great coach would, you're talking about wanting to draw the best out of people
Starting point is 00:41:56 and what was the talent we have and then let's make the movie around that. That's a football coach. That is a sport coach. I love to hear your leadership, but whenever that is bestowed upon you during COVID, when they thought the movies were gonna be dead, like everybody was gonna stream,
Starting point is 00:42:09 did you take that upon yourself? Did you feel a little bit of weight of the industry? And how have you kind of navigated that? Well, what I did was is basically, yeah, I did, because look, my friends, it's not just about the films I'm making. The difference in movies, I guess, in other sports is I've never felt competitive with other people I'm like I want everyone to do well and so yeah I did I just made sure
Starting point is 00:42:34 that that mission got made that when everything shut down I really worked and had to take it on and you know I talked to McHugh who writes and directs and produces these films and I was like we're gonna have to we're gonna have to really do this and I'm gonna stay in are you in and so what I did was I just worked with the government's I had to I called one studio and this is what I really did I called a student I was like yeah you guys shooting he's like no no we can't we're all shut down for that I said did. I called the studio and I was like, yeah, you guys shooting? He's like, no, no, no, we can't. We're all shut down for that.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I said, oh, wow. I said, you know, we're shooting our movies. And they're like, what? I said, yeah, yeah, we're making our movies. And then, so I called back a week later and I was like, how's it going? They said, oh yeah, we're shooting our films. I said, cause we're coming out next summer, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:22 And I said, so, you know, we're on this date. I hope you're not on this date. They're like, well, you know, we're making our movie. We're coming out next summer. You know, I said, so, you know, we're on this date, I hope you're not on this date. They're like, well, you know, we're making our movie, we're coming out next summer. And then I called the studio that I was working with, I said, Look, all these guys are making movies. We got to make movies. So and I just kept everyone working throughout. So they were like, Okay, we got to make movies. So then I was like, you know, we had to finish Top Gun Maverick in post during COVID. And I was basically everyone was kind was like, you know, we had to finish Top Gun Maverick in post during COVID. And I was basically, everyone was kind of like, no, you can't do this.
Starting point is 00:43:48 No, you can't do that. I was like, always going, ah, don't take no for an answer. Really bad. I'm like, okay, well, there's gotta be a solution. So I was calling like, we have to set up the rules. Let's make agreements so that we can get back to work. And then I was calling governments and getting agreements with them. And then I was telling, sharing it with the other studios and my friends saying, this
Starting point is 00:44:06 is how we're doing it. And then just kind of saying, my crew is going to get paid during this time. I just kept everybody working and then slowly and not so slowly before you know it, we're able to just make sure that we're creating even our orchestra for Top Gun Maverick. We were able to get mics to people's apartments all over the world where they're recording their instruments and then combining those instruments to create a live orchestra and just showing people, look we can do this, we can do it safely, let's create whatever rules so that we can move forward and that's what I did and I ensured the Top Gun Maverick
Starting point is 00:44:42 did not go to streaming, that it was held for distribution. I was calling all the theater owners globally that are my friends for decades and the studio heads and all of us kind of said, look, this movie's coming out, period, it's coming out in theaters and just kind of worked with everyone and said, look, we're all going to get through this. We're going to get through it. It's going to be okay. It's going to be okay. And just working with friends and how to do it, how to navigate these channels and just keep people moving in the most efficient creative way possible. And, you know, just kind of night and day,
Starting point is 00:45:16 it was seven days a week, night and day, and creating these things. And you look at the film today, we made it through COVID and two strikes and, you know, just be relentless about it and just make sure that people had jobs and that we were moving forward. And that's what happened. And it was very nice what Stephen said. I've known Stephen since I was a kid, you know, and very grateful and grateful to everyone that everyone kind of picked it up and
Starting point is 00:45:41 everybody got back to work. But I was definitely kicking some doors through and kind of helping people to understand that this can be done and we can move forward and that the theatrical experience is very special. Yeah, we needed it too as a society. Top Gun Maverick, I wanna let you know that. Top Gun Maverick is one of the moments I look back, I think there was an Ole Miss baseball home run
Starting point is 00:46:04 that I remember. It was. I think there was an Ole Miss baseball home run that I remember. It was the first time there was a crowd and Ole Miss hit a home run and the crowd went crazy in the outfield. I remember going to see Top Gun Maverick. That's like one of my rollouts of COVID here, like changing my, and I'm sure there's nowhere, I'm not the only one.
Starting point is 00:46:18 This is a lot of people. So we are incredibly grateful for what you did. And I assume the movie industry echoes what Spielberg says in that entire thing now speaking of the movie industry. We have somebody aren't no you're very nice You're very nice Tom. You're a spark plug brother for everything. You make everything better You're an igniter a trailblazer a dog in every sense of the work cannot wait to watch Mission impossible final reckoning tomorrow The world is gonna watch alongside of us and I can't wait to see what you put out next. But we have a guy on our show, film major at Iowa, graduated, has studied your basic entire life. One of your biggest fans,
Starting point is 00:46:56 Ty has a question for you, Tom. Yeah, Tom, first and foremost. Hey Ty, I know you Ty, thanks man. Hey Ty. I love you. Wow, wow, Ty, good for you Hey Ty. Hey brother. Wow! Ty good for you Ty! Well I just I wanted to start by saying I think you just gave a quote that said like hey listen I'm still gonna be doing this when I'm a hundred years old I'm not gonna stop making movies anytime soon. 110 I think. 110 exactly. I just
Starting point is 00:47:18 personally want to say thank you because I don't want to live in a world where you're not making movies anymore so you know you know when you're done, I'm gonna be done I mean, I may never go see one again But I do I do want to ask you when it comes to the mission impossible franchise as a whole and then this film specifically How how difficult has it been kind of raising the bar with these set pieces that just get more? Massive and more massive like that, you know, it becomes the big part of the promotion of the movie. How have you kind of continued to push the envelope with each of these while also making it make sense within like the story of the film?
Starting point is 00:47:56 Listen, that is really the collaboration with Christopher McCrory. His storytelling ability and I, you know, he and I've been working together for almost 20 years, a guy's genius. And it's also, look, I'm always setting goals for myself my whole life. Even as a kid I had goals and you know what it's like, sometimes you don't share your dreams or your goals with people because sometimes it's so outrageous that it's okay, like you don't want to hear their comments. And I always have many goals. So when I accomplish something,
Starting point is 00:48:28 I already have a list of goals lined up there. Like I have so many other sequences and things that I can create for various films. I've already finished a film with Alejandro and Yari too. Constantly pushing the bar. It's always something that I know that's, it's, it's just, I take one sequence and I look at it and I go, how do I improve it? How can I do it better? You can always do things better. And I remember as a kid when I was making this movie Taps, I was laying
Starting point is 00:48:59 there. And I was like, man, I realized there I was working with these great cinematographer, great filmmakers, great actors. They knew so much more about everything than I did. And I was trying to absorb everything. And I thought I was so tense because I was trying to just remember everything and remember it and remember it. And I just laid there. I was literally in the middle of the night and I wasn't sleeping.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And I just started laughing. I was laughing till tears came. I said, man, you know what? I can only do the best I can. And I don't know what I don't know. And that's okay. And there's always, like, I can always learn. And I meant, or I thought I'm gonna dedicate everything.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And that's it. Like, good or bad, whatever people think, I know that I did everything I could. And that's what I've dedicated my life to. So when you look at mission, for me, there's always another mountain. Or cinema, there's always another mountain. There's always a new story.
Starting point is 00:49:51 There's always something that I can do better, bigger in different ways, shift into different genres. I never think that I can't. And that doesn't mean I'm not, there's things that I don't know. I just don't mind not knowing. I don't mind feeling that fear or that anxiety of I don't know. And I use that to pursue knowledge.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I use that to pursue pushing myself to create something special. And all of us, you know, and it's not just me, it's the whole team. So it's this, it's just that interest in the next goal. And it's, we're just pursuing it, pursuing it, pursuing it. And when you're working with such talented people that are there kind of throwing it all in, we're going for, I want to entertain that audience and that's the goal.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So it's just, it's an interest. It's like people go, why? It is a passion's an interest. You know, it's like people go why? It is a passion and an interest in life, a pursuit of excellence, a pursuit of knowledge, a pursuit of, and that's just excellence for excellence. It's like, I'm defining it for the audience. I'm doing this for the audience. And I don't know, I get real passionate about it.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yeah, I was about to say, it's an obsession at this know, I get real passionate. It's an obsession at this point, I think for you to attain people. And that's a giving mindset. It is. It is a passion. It's just it's literally like it's just, as a kid, I used to write stories and characters just to make my family laugh. And I create characters and I was jumping off buildings when I was four years old. You know, I was that kid who climbed the tallest trees. You know, I was jumping off buildings when I was four years old. You know, I was that kid who climbed the tallest trees. You know, I was like, I think I was like two and a half years old
Starting point is 00:51:29 where I climbed out of a window onto a roof, you know, to look at the stars. And the neighbors would call my mom, she'd be like, Where is he? You know, he's on the roof. I think there's a child on a roof at 2 a.m. in the morning to look at the stars. You know what I mean? And I just had that natural sense of adventure that I guess carries over into my passion for people in life and cinema. Well, we're appreciative of those things combining
Starting point is 00:51:57 because when you just decide, you know, I'm gonna jump a motorcycle off a cliff here and I'm gonna do it 20 times and see how it goes. I'm gonna climb what, the Burj Khalifa with no that you just sit on top of that thing I'm gonna do I'm gonna fly on the wing of a plane that is 5 to 15 feet above the ground over a creek and it's like we appreciate the fact that you do that I get nervous for you I know I I get scared for you now we know you're a very busy person I get nervous too do Do you? Okay, so you get feelings or no? Do you have like fear? Oh yeah, it's, it's, I just don't mind it. Look, here's also
Starting point is 00:52:31 the thing that when you're looking at that plane flying five feet over, we're doing things. I'm not just hanging off that plane. I'm also the amount of time that it took to develop the understanding the aircraft and how it flies flies understanding the airplane when it gets into a place where it's no longer going to fly me training the pilot to do it. We're developing knowledge and we're developing technology. So also when I'm there on the wheel, I'm worried about these downdrafts that are coming in. I'm I'm perceiving I'm perceiving the bumps I know what that pilot is going through because also when I'm flying in between the two wings and I'm zero G in there I also have to know my body position because I'm creating drag and
Starting point is 00:53:17 Reducing the airflow over that wing and I have to know what that pilot is doing. What is he going through? Are we in the middle of a stall when when that airplanes going and doing a loop and we're right on the top, I have to know where I need to be in position wise so that this airplane doesn't start falling out of the sky and we get into a spin. So he has to, and I'm training him and I have to know where the camera is and I have to also know where the helicopter is and where, and I'm acting as I'm moving through it. So there's kind of different spatial orientations and perceptions that I have to have. So that as the airplane and that air flows going over and we're traveling anywhere from you know 95 to 145 miles an hour hitting G's. So I don't know if you've
Starting point is 00:54:01 ever taken your hand and stuck it out of a window at that speed Oh, yeah dolphin. So how do I train my body? How do I train my mind? How do I train myself spiritually and McHugh and I are working on our cell on the story? And what does that lens say so there's there's layers upon layers, you know It's like when you see a quarterback come up to the line and they're quick perceiving everything, you know Where they have to know where everyone's moving. You have to have that spatial orientation of the guys coming around you. I have to, that's what you have to have.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And I have to know how close is that airplane to the side of the mountain? Where's the downdraft? What's happening? It's split second precision. And if I make a mistake and I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time, you know, and I have to be able to perceive, if I do that,
Starting point is 00:54:45 I'm going to put the pilot and the airplane into a bad position. And if I'm thrown into a bad position, I have to know as a team where we need to go. So all of these things are happening with all the stunts we're doing. And that kind of training, and it's not just years that it took to develop these sequences, it's decades of
Starting point is 00:55:06 knowledge that I've accumulated even on how to hire the people around me to do this. And so that's what McHugh and I like, even I'm talking on the wing to him, we have hand signals at times where he's in the helicopter and he's opening the helicopter and he's talking to me, but we have hand signals so that we can move very quickly. And that wing you have to understand it is the toughest weight work you've ever had so you know when you have a brutal weight workout and you literally cannot move yes you just can't you can't even get up that's what this being on the wing for a couple of minutes is from a hard aerobatic workout traveling the forces and I have to just rest on the wing to the times where I'm almost like in a different state of exhaustion
Starting point is 00:55:51 where and I have to rest to let my body, my muscles refuel so that I can get just from the wing to the cockpit because also we're limited in fuel. And the guy, you know, my pilots cannot land with me on the wing. And the way I start is I go from the cockpit out onto the wing, then we start our maneuvers, and I'm also hand signals with the pilot. So all of these things and the amount of training and drilling and safety procedures and step-by-step moving up to these procedures because also when the airplane goes inverted, the engine stops. It does stop because it's not fuel injected. So while I'm hanging and you'll see stuff of me hanging upside down in that
Starting point is 00:56:38 airplane and how do I hold it and how do we do it and understanding the maneuver and how that plane moves around and putting myself into a position because I'm being flung and also understanding what happens so that I'm putting myself in a position on the wing or the fuselage. You'll see me take hard hits, very, very hard hits on that wing and it's just like, oh, you can't take many of those, you know? Yeah. It's like going across the middle, you know, a receiver going across the middle, it's like I'm gonna catch the ball
Starting point is 00:57:07 and I know it is gonna hurt. Yeah, you said, hold on, he said, it's like a quarterback having to check an audible. Yeah, there's a chance to get blindsided. Yeah, there's a chance to get sacked, I guess. In your world, there's a chance you're falling off of a plane into earth. So yeah, I guess it is like a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Yeah, I guess so. Brother, listen to you talk is both inspiring and also like with an understanding that you're one of one brother. There's never gonna be another. Never gonna be another. Now, speaking of never gonna be another, Boston Connor got a chance to watch
Starting point is 00:57:40 final reckoning this morning. Yeah, after that promo TC, I wore my goat shirt today because you are the goat and it's very nice to be able to show that right after you said all that. But yes, I was able to see Final Reckoning this morning at 7.30 a.m. Thank you to your team for setting it up. I did, in fact, get popcorn for you.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And just so you know, coffee and popcorn are a fantastic combination. By the end of the movie. Is that right? Oh yeah. 7.30 AM show. I gotta try that. Yeah, yes you do.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I gotta try that. I gotta say, I gotta say the other day when I was in New York, I woke up and I did eat some more popcorn. I didn't try it with coffee, but chocolate popcorn's good, you know? Oh yeah. I'm gonna try coffee now, thank you.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, yeah. I learned something new every day. Boom. I can't believe. I can't wait to see what a coffee popcorn scene is gonna look like. It's energetic. I want to know what that's like. It's a lot of juice you'll eat even more popcorn probably because of it but you know with it being the final reckoning and all of us have been a massive fan of this entire franchise did you become nostalgic you know during certain scenes
Starting point is 00:58:45 after filming certain things because of it being the final reckoning and when everything was wrapped and filming was done? Did it get emotional for you once, you know, Ethan Hunt was finished with this Mission Impossible? I'm very much, you know, we didn't finish the film until the day before we released it in Japan. You know, we were in Japan and we had three days. Yeah, the day before the subtitles got done, literally the day before we premiered it. So we haven't had a chance to take a breath.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And I'm already I'm working on so many other films and I have like, it's never, you know, we're just constantly on the next. I did a movie with Alejandro and Yari too, and McHugh and I are, we haven't had a chance. It's like, we're just, we're on a bullet train and we're prepping, you know, so many other films right now. It's just been a bullet train.
Starting point is 00:59:43 So I'm just enjoying right now I'm enjoying every moment right now sharing it with people and I'm gonna try that coffee and popcorn and we're gonna see okay Last question here Tom. I know you're very busy Darius Butler has a question speaking of sharing moments Let's go. I saw this is fun. How are you man? Let's go, but you do it. This is fun It's been an awesome conversation, and I saw you with the people in the theater. Eat some popcorn now. This is a big journalism show. So I gotta get to the bottom of it
Starting point is 01:00:09 because there are questions. And now you're Tom Cruise. You do everything a little different. I've never seen anybody eat popcorn like this. Are you actually eating popcorn or are you full of shit right here, T.C.? I gotta know. I gotta know.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Man, I'm eating popcorn. But they know when I'm going to these movies that I'm watching and I'm eating popcorn. They know when I'm going to these movies that I'm watching, and I'm eating popcorn. Okay. So is that, is that, is your love of popcorn? Because it is like a movie theater thing. Is it you think that is why? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Movies. I love, I love going to a movie and getting popcorn. I love, for me, it's just like comfort, you know? I love the comfort of a movie theater. And I love like, you know, setting it up and I'll see several movies, you know, on the weekend. I'll kind of chart my weekends for the movies. And, you know, I look forward to it, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:53 like what these guys are throwing down. And it's inspiring to be seeing these movies, you know, like you see Sinners, I'm like, I see what those guys did. I'm like, I'm pumped to see that. You got Brad Pitt, you know, with Formula One coming and you know, all the guys like Jerry Bruckheimer. I can't wait to see those guys what they're creating. You got Keanu, you know, with the WIC series that I love with
Starting point is 01:01:15 Anadarmis and these guys are laying it down this summer. And I'm just, you know, and I, I, I get really excited and inspired by what these guys are doing. You know, they're going after it. And so, and I love getting popcorn. Everyone knows, the theater owners, I get there, they got my popcorn ready for me. You know, I get with my friends and we get in the back. I've got the seats, you know, I show up, I see the trailers, you know, pack cinema, and I'm watching the movie
Starting point is 01:01:43 and I like watching other people, you know, as we're doing it. And that's what I love. I love seeing people's response to it and seeing what people are doing. I love it. God, you're the perfect representative of the movie industry. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Quick tip if somebody's to make an acting debut in a couple months, maybe me. Yeah. What's what's up? What's what do you want? Like, what do you what should I think? What should I think? What's my mindset be? What's my mindset be?
Starting point is 01:02:09 What should your mindset be? Well, it depends on the kind of movies. War movie, war movie, war movie. Oh, good. Well, first of all, just try to understand what the tone of the film is. You know, what's happening on set, show up early so that you know, you feel comfortable, you know, the surroundings, I'm always early, and I always leave late, and I'm constantly kind of working on it. I work on things seven days a week, and usually working on several films at the same time. But I think the most important thing is to just be there and present, like be present and perceive what's going on, you know, what's happening right in front of you and reacting to it.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And just understanding what the tone of what the directors are going for and just responding, just being in the moment. I'll prepare, prepare, prepare, prepare. Sometimes for years. Some of the films that I've made, Rain Man, it took two years, Born of the Fourth of July over two years. Mission movies or Samurai spent two years, Born on the Fourth of July over two years.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Mission movies or Samurai spent two years preparing for them. Sometimes like Les Grossman, whatever, it's months and months. These things, just be present and just find things that interest you with that character. All you got to do is listen and respond to the people there and just kind of feel. You know when you're a kid and children are, they're great actors. They're just so free. You know, you're playing with your toys and you're that truck and you're doing all this and it's, you know, you are that character with those toys or, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:42 You want that cookie, you know, that you're, but it's not, you know whatever you want you want that cookie you know that you're that but it's not you know it's dessert after dinner you know and you can always see the kids and they're like well you know you can't have the cookie till later and we're gonna do it no I want it now I want this cookie now or the toy you can see that they could just generate the tears you know and you just start looking at them and they're looking over that eye like are you paying attention I really got the tears going now. They're creating that.
Starting point is 01:04:08 They're making it happen right now. And that's acting where, you know, you kind of create a character, you understand the world, and then you're just present and creating those things. And it's just, use your imagination and have fun. I appreciate the hell out of it. I hope that's helped, man.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It is gonna be fun. And I can't wait to get to the movies tomorrow to watch Your latest work and mission impossible final reckoning. Thank you for the time. You're the greatest of all time Hey, thank you for the time. You guys are awesome. Have a great summer, you know enjoy Hell, yeah, you too. Enjoy your life tom. Yeah, you're making all of ours better. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen tom cruise Unbelievable how about that? Tom Cruise I'm real 35 minutes 35 minutes we had so I don't know how everybody in his team sure felt about the 35 minutes probably didn't love it I mean what were we supposed to do yeah yeah, it wasn't planned, but that's easy to do.
Starting point is 01:05:06 That was not the plan. It was not the plan at all. And then he gives that first answer and it's like, oh, Tom's giving us answers right now. Feels like Tom has given us answers right now. And then just one thing leads to another, yada, yada, yada. I look up and I'm like, we are 25 minutes into this thing right now.
Starting point is 01:05:21 No end in sight in my eyes. In my head, there was no- I love of film. There was no smooth exit at all so we go another 10 minutes and that last question there about the tip for acting and You know maybe for me, but also maybe for those who want to get in acting like sure how often you get to hear Tom Cruz give up You know exactly full breakdown of what you need it. You need to be you need to be What he was saying basically in a roundabout way. After the conversation ends, he wanted to stick around and say thank you to us.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And there was another 10 minutes of like diving into is it you that is acting? And then like true passion in telling me how I need to think, what I need to think, the questions I'm allowed to ask, what I'm not allowed to ask, what I shouldn't think about, what I should, like everything like broken down. I am nothing short of. Yeah, truly impressive. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I am nothing short of impressed with that man. And he's one of one. And I don't like you. Amen. I feel. And Bubba. Hey man I feel and Bubba. Yeah. Bubba Watson. Son of a bitch. So loud even at the WNBA game he was like I'm so glad to eat popcorn. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Is that how you're gonna eat? No you're not eating. We know you're not eating. Yeah. We know you're not eating. That's clearly faked by you. You don't have popcorn. You don't. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 See? This is my mission impossible. I'm a rookie actor. To eat popcorn like this for the rest of my life. I haven't been acting for four years. Hey, thank you Tom. Thank you TC. Love you.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Love you TC. That was awesome though. That was incredible. We did not expect that. We had no idea what to expect. 10 to 15 minutes they said going in. And I don't know whether that's on us for being unprofessional. Hopefully Tom is okay with it.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Hopefully everybody else is as well There was a couple because he's in a different country Foxy added some pictures To kind of splice some things up because we didn't know where the conversation was gonna go Foxy great work on that Thank you. Thanks. That was awesome b-roll to use in there. Oh sweet. Yeah, they're a cool team to work with to be clear They had it all hey, here's some b-roll if you want to make it for any of the clips. Here's a teaser You can use nobody else says it's like thank you And it all makes sense when if you hear him talk, he's a leader
Starting point is 01:07:32 Like I think if you use himself as like the coach obviously he says when I'm producing a movie or I'm doing this I'm trying to there's a lot of like leadership lessons in there There's a lot of like work ethic lessons in there. Obviously we're talking about acting He's talking about acting but if you apply a lot of like work ethic lessons in there. Obviously we're talking about acting. He's talking about acting, but if you apply a lot of the shit he's saying about how he goes about his business to your particular life and whatever you do, I think that is a, I mean, that was a quote machine.
Starting point is 01:07:53 That was like a quote board machine right there with Tom Cruise. What an honor. Ty, you've been a big fan, massive fan. You've been banging the drum obviously since the beginning. He was superb, I think. And I don't know and I don't know I don't know I don't watch enough of his interviews and everything like that during his press junctus, but he was so kind to us
Starting point is 01:08:12 He asked us man. Oh, yeah, he really did for sure. I mean, I wouldn't say I watched those press junk It's a whole lot because typically for those movies. It's just the same thing over and over again You know like they get asked the same questions by these outlets and by the end of it it's like you can tell they're done but they need to promote the movie but you mentioned it like he's he is one of one we will never see there will never be another actor there has never been another actor and there will never be another actor who's doing these kind of stunts and then for this kind of stuff like you talk about being a leader like for a movie like this like and you're doing these kinds of stunts. And then for this kind of stuff, you talk about being a leader. For a movie like this,
Starting point is 01:08:46 and you're doing these types of stunts, they need to make sure that this stuff goes off without a hitch, because if it doesn't, a movie like this, the more days you tack on, that production budget goes higher and higher and higher. And you hear that about movies getting made all the time. It's like, well, the production process was hell, because they went 45 days over what they were supposed to. And that added another 75 to a hundred
Starting point is 01:09:10 million dollars to the budget. Licensing, renting, shooting, working. All that, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Getting the, you know, I mean, these are massive set pieces that they're doing. And obviously like the production budget of this movie alone was like $400 million. This is one of the most expensive movies ever made so you don't really have the luxury of like oh we need to go another Month, I mean, it's just TC's to go, you know I've been saying it and I'll continue to say it until I'm blue in the face Yeah And it's sweet to like learning how he knows all those aspects of the film like him understand like he's always studying
Starting point is 01:09:41 He's always learning and to your point about the people that work for him, the person who showed us the movie yesterday morning, super nice, I assume it's someone from his camp or Paramount or from Mission, as Tom says it, but it is the greatest film. I'm not joking, if you're a Mission Impossible fan, it's the best one. You are going to love it.
Starting point is 01:10:02 At the end of it, I thought there was gonna be another half hour, hour, I was hoping for more time after just because you don't really want it to end at any point. And especially if you're into the entire like, you know, nostalgic throwback, you know, some kind of callbacks, if you will, to the earlier movies. Cause I'm a sucker for those when it comes to any, you know, big franchise.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah, it feels smart, and it feels like big brain. It feels like you're bringing your people in. That, and it comes to any you know big franchise. It feels smart and it feels like big brain it feels like you're bringing your people in. That and it's like you know what it was worth watching like it's not like I was just watching those movies because they were trying to make another like they are there is a legitimate long-term storytelling in these films and the final reckoning it truly was one of my favorite ones the movies they called back to in it were some of my favorite movies in The entire series to in the cast the cameos he mentioned on during the interview You know the commander for the submarine and there's another commander in the film as well. Who is just
Starting point is 01:10:59 Magnificent that's not how he eats popcorn. Yes. No, he Actually, he's actually eating the popcorn. That's don't do this man. Yes. No, he no. Yeah, he's actually he's actually eating the popcorn Don't do this man. I'll rip that fucking jersey off your back. I don't care. Yeah that marshy will come beat your ass Miss bad that was a bad miss you can't be doing that Tom didn't do that gonna happen some yeah And how about whenever he said in? 2020 he calls the other Production companies you guys making movies over there. No, we can't. Oh, we're doing it. All right. We'll see you then call back next week How's it going over there? Oh, we're making movies over here. Okay, when you guys launch it, we got a date next summer
Starting point is 01:11:37 This is when we're going you guys go to same date Yeah, we'll do it a summer. Whatever. Okay, cool. Then he calls Paramount. Hey other people are going Okay, other people are making movies really what a work what a work in that thing And he's the way he explains this cuz he didn't want his people to lose jobs Yeah, he's like hey if there's gonna be other people that are doing it and in my eyes There is an ability to do it. I don't think no for an option many times He is obsessed
Starting point is 01:12:04 Been around like, you know, If you've ever been around, like you know, I play with Tom, you know, and you play with Peyton, and like, you know, I'm sure like Jordan and Kobe, and like you see like these guys, Tiger, like you get obsessed with that shit, and you can tell, like talking to him, you can tell sometimes he just caught himself like,
Starting point is 01:12:19 oh shit, like me. Yeah. I can talk about this one question for 35 more minutes, but it's great to see somebody, especially who's been at the top of the game for so long, to still have that drive and obsession about their craft. And how awesome is it, you said playing with Tom, I obviously got a chance to watch Peyton do his thing.
Starting point is 01:12:35 It's like, and he mentioned it, he was like, I want everybody to be better after they work with me and with us. It's like me watching Peyton made me better. At this job, at every job, at life, at punning, at you know, I assume you the same thing with Tom Brady. Yeah, and it's like, he's, there's not many of those ever gonna exist again.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Nope. No, one to one. 110 years old though, Ty, you said once you're done, I'm fucking out of here too, bub. Yeah, and I stand by that. All right. Start rewatching. That was one of the most ridiculous,
Starting point is 01:13:03 as you were kind of unraveling, I was hearing you talk hearing you talk I'm like okay I'm excited to hear what Ty says to Tom here I'm excited for the opportunity and then you say hey Tom when you're done I'm dying too okay he said he's gonna live to 110 I believe him. I believe he's got another 48 years he says I think if we're doing math right he's absolutely jack looks young he was glowing oh yeah cool his hair was he looked incredible he looks so good and shout out to um, Aidan shout out to kevin Great hair shout to eric eric figured it out had to eric was under pressure a little bit there
Starting point is 01:13:35 Uh about two minutes before everything went live before tom got there because it was obvious that he was coming from one thing Into because we watched it all in full. So we were we were waiting coming from one thing into, cause we watch it all in full. So we were, we were waiting eagerly waiting. Yeah. Oh yeah. We were so juiced up. We were 10 minutes early for what it was supposed to be sitting in the zoom call.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Okay. That is very rare for us. Pre-recording very rare for us. But whenever it's Tom Cruise, he said, I guess so many other films right now, I haven't even really thought about Mission Impossible being over. Like that was basically his thing. Cause he was in the middle of like so many different jobs.
Starting point is 01:14:04 So us getting a chance to squeeze into the, is a big deal Oh, yeah, first of all, so we're very thick especially as a sports Stud show so we're just waiting because first of all just like the LeBron situation Just like the Tom Brady when he was on and just like this. I thought was all red Oh, there's no way Tom Cruise is coming on our show. There's no there's no chance He's doing this so as we're watching his team kind of piece it together and they're like setting up the mic and the lights and the seed and the connection because it's a different country obviously So you got a lot of stuff going on we meet them as they're sitting down And we just take that as an opportunity kind of learn what's going on here Kevin had good lettuce. Oh great
Starting point is 01:14:36 He was guys sitting in for Tom Cruise. He did have good moxie Yeah, he had no idea we could see him for about the first 90 seconds I think as he was sitting there and hear him which we certainly could. So is this stage staring down a guy who's in a different country who doesn't know? So obviously our reactions were awesome to that. He had great, that guy, great moxie. He was a great troubleshooter. Troubleshooting was his thing. Yeah he said he's we're troubleshooting the issue right now. Eric's gonna figure it out right over here and then Aiden pops his handsome ass in. Aiden was the driver
Starting point is 01:15:03 behind this entire thing and shout out to Mike Foss. Yeah. Foss got the email found the email and uh Foss, oh you're the man and uh sorry you Tom Cruise. All right let's take a break. We have Kyle Larson joining us in studio here in uh. I might eat too much, this popcorn. What do you mean? What do you mean? Too much popcorn. 15 minutes obviously Indy 500 week. Indy 500 week. Kyle Larson is looking to do the double yet again. Run the Indy 500 into the Coca Cola 600 Donner. I don't know how many drivers have done it. I know nobody's really been successful.
Starting point is 01:15:39 And last year he was trying to do it. And the Indy 500 got delayed because of weather. Tough. So really, I mean it really, he flew down to Charlotte after the Indy 500 ended much later than it ever has probably. And then he hopped in a car that because the race was already started. So it wasn't smooth at all. No.
Starting point is 01:15:57 But during the Indy 500, Kyle Larson was learning how to drive an Indy car. And it was cool to watch and he was doing well. It was like, oh, this guy, like 75 laps in, you hear him in the radio basically say like oh I didn't know I could do that they're like yes you could do that and he's in the biggest race in any car and he just kept getting better kept getting better they're saying this guy might go down as the greatest driver of all time he can race anything whether it's go-karts dark cars sprint cars but you name it yeah cars what's that if one I think he would be a guy that I think
Starting point is 01:16:27 Race community in America would be like yeah, we would like to see Kyle Larson go over there He's a driver though like those sprint cars, you know, those things are like a rub it there. They're dangerous They're they're rub it. They're spinning the back ends just they're literally drifting around in this thing and then going around the track. They're flipping people are dying I mean, that's that's where he that's style racing. He comes from. Yeah, just asking about that for him He didn't he doesn't come from he don't come from Rolex. No, you know sponsorship sure his whole life He's a driver. That's right. We'll talk to him about 15 minutes So this Indy 500 weekend here in Indianapolis is gonna be alive Obviously Nixon Pacers tonight. Good luck to all parties in all conference finals,
Starting point is 01:17:10 but boy, it'd be sweet if Indiana Pacers went on a run to the finals. Oh, yes, it would. For the city, for our show, and for a friend of the program, Tyree Sallaberg. I love that Knicks team though. Yeah. I enjoy the way they play. Fun to watch. Don't love them, but...
Starting point is 01:17:24 No, I actually kind of do love the Knicks team though. Yeah. I enjoy the way they play. Fun to watch. Don't love them but... No I actually kind of do love the Knicks. Like you're right. Love that they exist in the sports world because we talk about sports. So I like that the Knicks are very good because just all the shit that comes alongside of them. When it doesn't get too much the scenes outside of MSG are really cool. Awesome yeah like there's so many good things that come from their team being good. Their fans with Hans not great. Exactly when it becomes too much that's from their team being good. They're fans with Hans knock exactly becomes too much That's when it's with Wendy. Yeah, but it's a huge end with Wendy. I didn't even see that video until later. Yeah He's really going through it. He's really going through it. Damn. All right, let's get to a break
Starting point is 01:17:57 We'll be back on the other side. We hope D butchers. Okay. Yeah, that looked like a tie-jerk. I know I know I've been there I look like a yep, and we saw me in the BK flapjacks. Yeah during the Hi, be a friend tell a friend something nice say a prayer for old D, butch. Yeah We'll be back in about three. Thank you Tom Cruise Impossible final reckoning tomorrow in theaters only in theaters obviously yeah Tomorrow, in theaters, only in theaters, obviously. Yeah. Tom might be in your theater tomorrow.
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Starting point is 01:19:21 Sports! D-Bot's just shitting his pants. Yeah, yeah, it's bad. Talks at tables here at boss Conrad, Ty Schmidt, one half of the hammer, dad! Cowboys AP Tony's here and joining us live from an attic in Ohio. In an attic in Ohio is a man who maybe manifested that Tom Cruise interview back in 2022 on our program. We were chit chatting. We're just a small little tiny little show. Had a pretty good studio though. And because our studio was so big, we were actually able to continue through the COVID times, you know, because we were able to get the spatial distancing and Because we're on radio at the time Westwood one while also be on the internet
Starting point is 01:20:09 We were deemed like a necessary something just in case news had to be in there. We had a certificate Yep, it was a big deal We had Indianapolis Health Department Coming in and checking to make sure we had signs in enough places enough hand sanitizer around the building Oh, yeah enough space amongst all of us to make sure we had signs in enough places, enough hand sanitizer around the building, enough space amongst all of us. They could randomly pop in whenever they wanted to. What's that tone?
Starting point is 01:20:31 Goggles, because the eyes were happening at one point. At one point there was a dull look at each other thing. That was at the very beginning. Also the cardboard boxes from the delivery. Don't touch them for two, three weeks. Correct. Keep those things outside. What's that?
Starting point is 01:20:43 The APOC burgers. We ate a lot of burgers because they came in a massive box. Once again, they sat outside for two, three days, which not good because they were frozen burgers. But somehow the Ape Park burgers
Starting point is 01:20:52 were able to survive. We had new handshakes. We did it. Anyways, we did it through all of COVID. So AJ started joining us during it because AJ is at his house for kids. I certainly think he probably just wanted to escape or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I probably just wanted to escape. He started joining us during it because AJ's at his house for kids. I certainly think he probably just wanted to escape or whatever Yeah, you know, I probably just wanted to escape he started joining us and that's really where this whole thing kind of
Starting point is 01:21:11 Really started going and AJ said in 2022 He said, uh, we need Tom Cruise on the show and I go Tom Cruise not coming on our show. What you yeah Let's just yeah what Tom Cruise on the show And I go, how's that gonna work? You're gonna call him? He goes, this is my plea right now. And then Boston Connor immediately afterwards goes, yeah, and we'll just get LeBron James on the show too. Yeah, let's just start.
Starting point is 01:21:35 So now that LeBron James has had the LeBron conversation here and we've got a chance to talk to Tom Cruise, we can solidify the fact that we are living the dumbest lives of all time. We're so incredibly thankful. And the fact that this man with a massive face, massive head, and he's the all-time leading tackle for the Green Bay Packers, potentially put that in the universe, and he first responded.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk, we appreciate it. Yeah, Hawkers! Got your jersey on. I like how you got your jersey on. Yeah, I saw it was Jersey Day, so I ran down to my 12-year-old's closet, got my Devonte J your jersey on Yeah, I thought was Jersey Day. So I ran down in my 12 year old's closet got my Devante Jets jersey on So yeah, I know it's not there anymore, but it's a little bit tight. But yeah, Tom was amazing, man Dude, what an inspirational whole situation that was. Yeah, and that is a little tight. Is that game? Well tight little tight not game worn. This is a youth
Starting point is 01:22:21 larger youth excel I Appreciate you doing that. I love it Hawker. I was it this is big Connor. Connor's been pushing this one hard this morning wanting it to be Jersey Day Wednesday. I was kind of torn because I haven't worn this ever and the Pacers are on quite a run. Yeah. But I wanted to support the team and do Jersey Day and I put it on and it was literally a Full-time I hate wearing these is in my head then also did I just ruin it because I put this thing on So I decided post Tom Cruise interview don't have the jersey on before Tom Cruise interview had it on feel like I am celebrating
Starting point is 01:23:00 With you guys sure but also potentially not ruining it for the Indiana Pacers tonight. Yeah exactly now we know you know we'll judge it off tonight if they win guess what see you for jurors day on Friday and then if they lose no that is not how this is going. It feels like that should happen if they win. No no no no that is not it. You and Cole have a good. Yeah, Michael Cole and I have a good bet on the Knicks and Pacers series, which is if the Knicks win, I have to wear a full suit, which would suck. I could wear one of my own. With the tie and everything? Tie, he wears the full clown suit.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Every day. All day, every day. I feel like that dude wears it for 18 hours straight. He does. He shows up at the arena or the stadium dressed in full suit of tie. Has the tie all the way up to Wild.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Not gonna be out of place at all at any moment. So I'll wear his little clown suit Full thing which I don't think I would have to buy. I don't know we suit pants What are those are just sweatpants and people say are nice, right? That's basically what people say I'll do that whole thing And then if the Pacers win when the Pacers win Michael Cole will wear a tank top for Dish on Monday on raw now. I don't think either of us got that cleared by anybody So I'm excited to see Michael Cole in a tank top on raw and how quickly that is like we did it, right? We did the whole we did the little gimmick. We did the little game here, but nonetheless Pacers Knicks this evening AJ
Starting point is 01:24:23 Did you see a hockey game last night? Did you see Florida Panthers? Firework's coming. Firework's coming huh? You're reading it the same way we are right? You're reading it the same way we are? Oh my goodness yeah I mean how many people are gonna tune into the start of this next game like I will. Well the fact that the Panthers are even like kind of alluding to like hey yeah by not answering and not saying anything they are basically saying, yeah, noted. This is all very duly noted. Guy wants to take a cheap shot at our new guy. Okay. Okay. Our guy who has become one of us so quickly, a guy that was meant to be on the floor to Panthers, you're gonna
Starting point is 01:24:57 take a shot at him because I feel like they're gonna have to showcase Demarshi that they got his back too. Like there's so many things that kind of go into this in the hockey culture world that indicate that Very rarely in an Eastern Conference finals, and I might be speaking out of pocket here, but I just from watching it My entire life basically. I don't know the ins and outs. Okay, I can dump the pocket there I can't skate so I never you know not my thing But very rarely in the Eastern Conference finals is anybody trying to fight Okay, fighting has been a part of hockey for a long time. It kind of disappeared for a little bit But very rarely in the Eastern Conference Finals is anybody trying to fight. Fighting has been a part of hockey for a long time, it kind of disappeared for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Now it's kind of making a comeback a little bit. And Commissioner Bettman said, we just don't want the staged fighting. We don't want the staged fighting. We want the bullshit fights. Like if somebody wants to get somebody back, stick up for a teammate, wants to fight somebody, that's okay. But we can't just have like a staged fight happening anymore, is what the Commissioner of the NH NHL said Because they were kind of trying to get rid of fighting is what everybody thought In Eastern Conference finals you fight you get go to the penalty box. That is it quite an advantage for the other person Feels like this is going to be a massive brawl to start it and very rarely does that ever happen in an Eastern Conference finals game The NHL I know they're not going to say publicly that they're happy about it
Starting point is 01:26:03 But to your point all eyes are on that opening puck drop. I mean, just like whenever United States took on Canada in that four nations up in Canada and they booed our national anthem, it was like, you knew that the United States team didn't even have to say anything to each other. It was just like, Oh, is that okay? Now we go. That's how this is going to go. And hockey is one of the only sports where that's possible Hockey is literally the only sport where that is still a thing in 2025 and I have so much respect for it And that is why hockey is Awesome, and I absolutely love it
Starting point is 01:26:34 Oh, and there's no need to like give the Panthers more fuel like if anything the the Cainiacs were probably looking for some sort of You know some momentum to carry in to the next game, whether that be someone on their team, you know, having a huge hit and then fighting someone for the Panthers. But it was completely flipped. This gives the Panthers all the momentum. I don't love how you said Marsha was born to play for the Panthers too. That's not true. But I understand when you say he fits their culture perfectly. He fits exactly everything that they are about. He was born to be a Bruin, he's a Bruin for life.
Starting point is 01:27:07 But again- He wasn't Bruin for life because you guys said don't be Bruin. He'll move back to Boston. With Martian being the guy too, of course he's a new guy, but he's like the elder statesman too. Sure, he doesn't have the assistant captain or the captain marking on his chest, but he is the vet, the guy that kind of sets the tone for this team So it's one of those things where it's not even like a Shane Goss's beer where he's not you know
Starting point is 01:27:33 The tone setter on their team. I we were talking before the show. He's a finesse offensive defenseman Not really got his feels a little bit. Exactly. I love what he did. He's got a little he's got a little soft Yeah, don't I don't know. I don't know how many hockey people love what he did, but I do appreciate that some people do. Well, it's dangerous. Every danger share would be doing that. And there is lines in this entire thing. I think there is a code that people would say.
Starting point is 01:27:57 And it's very rare that you see somebody from their own blue line shooting it directly into somebody, hitting them in the arm, too. Not a lot of pads there. Yeah. And it's, you know, a lot of people that I know from Canada were saying, this guy takes a slap shot from his own blue line right into a guy disrespect the game. Not a slap shot. People from Canada said that.
Starting point is 01:28:18 People from Canada. I've been watching hockey my whole life. I've never seen somebody do something like this. And I'm not being egregious. I haven't you find somebody who does this in game one of an Eastern Conference finals when your team's down 3-1 The Canes have no hope the rest of the series It's Bush League You've already shown you're like you're down 3-1 you're losing your mind already taking slappers at guys on the other team
Starting point is 01:28:41 Well I wasn't a slapper Whatever you guys say it was. It's Bush League shouldn't have done it and you're done. It's over. Cats are going to sweep them really because but you're already you're down three one and you're doing that to Marshy already and then Marshy rag dolls. The guy there's no answer from your team. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:00 No one coming to his aid is tough. I do believe and I might need to be fact-checked I know for a fact that they have lost eight straight Eastern Conference Finals games or nine straight 13 Yeah, so it was three they've been swept in three straight conference finals You know why that is from what I've been told Mickey skates told me that they run a system basically the Hurricanes run a system They don't care who they're playing, this is how they're gonna play.
Starting point is 01:29:26 So when you get to the Eastern Conference Finals, you're playing a team that can probably adjust and do different things. So they figure out a way to beat your system and then it's over, right Nick? Isn't that kind of the? Yeah, and this has kind of been Brendan Moore's MO, the coach there.
Starting point is 01:29:37 He was a great player for Carolina, won a Stanley Cup with them. Played multiple years in the league, 20 plus years I, close to it. And now he's the coach there and this has kind of been his MO is they can make it to the second round. Maybe they make it to the conference final like you've seen here a few times, but they can't get over that hump.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And there's That's because they're playing great teams at that. You're playing like great teams at that point so they can like maneuver around what you're trying to do. You need adjustments, I think is what people were saying. And they just play the way they play and they keep it moving. It's like the Panthers, now they're at a point,
Starting point is 01:30:08 last night AJ, I don't know if you heard this, where they're mic'd up and they say, all right, let's go beat the hell out of these guys, basically. We're up three one, basically what Pat Maroon said, hey, let's get some hits on these guys. Let's run these guys a little bit now that we're up in this thing.
Starting point is 01:30:19 That's an actual plan by the Panthers. Yeah, Paul Maurice, a clip was going around of him, and I think it was from last year's playoffs where they were winning 3-1 and they were trying to get a little fancy and he basically just said, hey, pound their D man, which I'm sure Q Rich would love to hear that as well next time we have a mom, but they were just yelling, I don't know why you're, you know, getting all fancy out there, go pound their D's. They got nothing left for game seven. And that's exactly what started to happen like that's why Marsham was going after Goss's beard later on I think it was a fourth liner for Florida
Starting point is 01:30:51 He got a roughing penalty because he hit One of the I think it was actually Goss's beers linemate one of the defensemen For the Panthers and he gave him a couple extra shots just something to feel wear them down wear them down and gave him a couple extra shots just something to feel wear them down wear them down and it's legit like that's that's a great style and that's why the Panthers have won and it's great to watch. You talked about being fact-checked earlier on the 13 straight losses in the Eastern Conference Finals for the Caroline Hurricanes a lot of people on the internet I read while we had our three-minute break there we're saying that I should have fact-checked Jamal
Starting point is 01:31:22 Crawford a little bit Jamal Crawford said that if you took away all of SGA's free throws he'd still lead the league in scoring I don't know if anybody was fact-checking but I saw 30 responses that were like that's that's cap that I guess I believed him I believed him when he said it he sold it to me me too as I was listen I was like okay I respect it yeah respect Jenna yeah I mean it was a man big-time respect Jenna. I understand I understand what you're saying, but I guess a lot of people are here and saying that's not true I assume that get figured out by somebody else over. Yeah, Jamal Crawford. So Internet or Jamal? Oh, I don't know. Well also
Starting point is 01:31:59 Yeah, would Jamal just say that with no reason at all? No. I believe he is six, unfortunately. OK. So yeah. He would. I didn't fix that. This is on MVP. No, no, it's not on you. It's on all of like, because it's believable. Because the guy is getting to the bucket all the time.
Starting point is 01:32:18 He is electrifying to watch. And then the flopping stuff, it's like, man. Kind of weird, isn't it? Because I guess it'd be really tough as the ref, because it does, when you're watching it as fast as it is you're like okay that could be a foul and then you watch it back like no dude like they just fall down a lot all the time yeah but the reason why you fall down a lot is because there's a lot of feet in a very confined space like it's
Starting point is 01:32:37 a it's an off-balance sport I think especially whenever you're around I would do it too I would do it too though I wouldn't blame these rats are calling I guess what Jamal said like hey these rats are calling this isn't a rec center game where D Butts getting his lips would open or you know Gary V is Fallon dudes from behind like these are professional referees making the call Yeah, it's not his fault that he's getting the calls and it's just like when Patrick Mahomes was on the sideline He was doing the shit and he was getting the calls. It was like I guess you can't blame Patrick Mahomes We don't want it to look like that. We don't want that to be what it is But in Patrick Mahomes, I was, I can get 15 yards right now. I'm going to take 15 yards right
Starting point is 01:33:09 now. And they probably view it as like outsmarting the game. And this is a part of the game. And LeBron said that. LeBron said I'm the least called fouls in the league or whatever. Somebody told me to fact check that. I guess there is people with less fouls than Ron James but whenever he was flopping it was like they're calling this is giving me two shots right now for my team like I don't know what you want tell them to change the rule then if that is the case if you don't want me doing it tell them change the rule or stop calling it and it feels like the NBA has gone to a tougher brand of basketball which I think is why whenever you watch SGA it's like he's like an outlier right now when that used to be what all the basketball was
Starting point is 01:33:46 I did look it up points per game minus free throws made he is still number one in the league and yeah, so I Assume he meant like when everyone gets at the most points per game free throws per game this season Oh, you're saying most points per game. No, that's that's points per game minus free throws made so Dash is not an explanatory, that is an actual minus. Think they should have spelled that one out, but I appreciate what they're doing at the top of this. Who's this from?
Starting point is 01:34:11 This is from Statmuse. Statmuse, great. Yeah, yeah. Great. Love them. All sports. Yeah, we appreciate the shit out of Statmuse. I don't know how many of them are back there behind there,
Starting point is 01:34:22 either posting or doing the research, but Statmuse, you're a good group over there yeah yeah we are very grateful for you so he's right so with Terrence Crawford said was right yeah Jamal Crawford I think that might be total points not points for game I could be wrong anyways the what's going on with that Crawford Canelo fight? I have no idea. So it's very interesting. Yeah, what is going on over there? That's sweet science, baby.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Dude, that business. We learned we got a chance to really be. Yeah, drop dead. Yeah, get a PhD. For like a weekend and it's like the business, but it's like, there's a wild world over here. It is the wild, wild west. Yeah, it genuinely is.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Yeah. Which is why I think they view it as a great opportunity for that entire thing. And if Canelo Crawford's the first one, I Yeah, it genuinely is Yeah, which is why I think they view it as a great opportunity for that entire thing And if canelo Crawford's the first one, I mean, that's is that what's happening? I don't know. Good luck. I hope so Crawford was cool to us. Yeah both. Yeah I'm sure there's other Crawford's that have been cool to us as well Joining us now ladies. Um SGA is so good Oklahoma City looks unbelievable. Jamal brought up another stat. He said they've only lost 14 games all year.
Starting point is 01:35:29 You know how many games the NBA teams play? All of them. They play a hundred and something games. Whatever it is. Whenever you get to the end of this thing. And it's like they've lost 14 of them. So you start thinking about this team, it's like they have it figured out. And he talked about the about the coach. Everybody talks about the coach a lot They're like this guy's the guy and I think it's just viewed as like a college team college atmosphere But if you have a great coach with that college atmosphere feels like the NBA is a league you can take over especially superstar Yeah, and he's worked his way up from the G League the thing with SGA is like he is so good One of those highlights you just ran he beats a guy and they does a spin move through the lane They lace it in it's like you don't need to Do all that extra shit and because of the fact that they haven't been calling it for everybody When you're calling it for just one guy, I think that's why people get so frustrated by it
Starting point is 01:36:14 Like last night he had 14 free throw attempts and had the next most with seven But in and I'm not saying like aunt was getting fouled a ton. They weren't calling it It's just the small small things that it felt like the NBA was getting away from when it came to fouls is like still Happening with us yet tonight. We have Oilers stars Pacers mix massive conference final Wednesday night here on this Tom Cruise Wednesday Still crazy to even think that that guy was on our show oilers With McJesus taking on Otter in the stars.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Gumpi was walking around earlier with an Otter mask on. And then he was saying he can't take a clap bomb at a guy and you know, yeah there he is. That was Gumpi this morning. Good luck to Texas hockey Gumpsh. Boys are ready. It's Otter time. It's Otter time. It's our time. Yeah, it is. He wants to represent for United States of America. I heard. Absolutely. I like to be number one of the Olympics. No doubt about it. When the cup start for USA. Those are his dreams. Good luck on her. Got me. Jesus coming right down the pipe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Got me. Jesus coming right down the pipe. I can't wait to watch. And then obviously Pacers, Nick's, Nick's favored by four and a half in the garden. That doesn't matter. We know that. I agree but I would like to say this game goes however it goes. Yeah. Okay this game goes however it goes. Yeah. It'll be what it'll be. It'll be the situation will certainly be the situation. I'm not worried about nothing no matter how this game goes We win one steal one the first one in Madison Square Garden possible this Pacers team has done that before Cool, we'll be pumped tomorrow. Certainly. Well, so we did a little garden and didn't we just like we did last year In the playoffs against the Knicks if the Knicks win which hey favorite by four and a half in Madison Square Garden
Starting point is 01:38:05 They've been locked in this is the run everybody on ESPN Next next next next next everybody sent it if they win there be no panic Because coach Carlisle will have the boys ready for game two without a doubt and then game three on Indy 500 Sunday Here in Indianapolis. Are you kidding me? I that's gonna be this is gonna be a fun series to be a part of and I can't wait to watch it get started tonight now Speaking of Indy 500 Sunday. There is a man. Okay, we got some stats here Got some stats here, I don't know who wrote the stats. Okay, could be Bruce sure think it is Bruce Okay, I think they sent stats to Bruce Bruce put a little pizzazz on it
Starting point is 01:38:46 Okay, that's Bruce didn't write him. He said Bruce did no pizzazz from Bruce He don't care. No pizzazz this first one you do not put any pizzazz on it. No, no, there's as as given He's all business with that next Jersey Good luck to your next team, bub Thank you. Do you love or hate that everybody on TV is picking the Knicks? There are a lot of Knicks fans on the morning lineup at ESPN for sure but I think due respect has been given to the Pacers. I don't think anyone's just chalking it up like we already won.
Starting point is 01:39:17 That is a former Knicks player, a Jets player, and then two Knicks fans on that graphic. Yeah, that's exactly All on TV a lot to do whatever they want to do Yeah, I mean say whatever they want great. They are in the epicenter of Western civilization, New York filming their show Greenie born and raised in New York City. Yep massive Knicks fan. I appreciate him multiple days now doing things like, hey, I don't know if he's trying to do it to reverse. He is, that's exactly what he's doing. I think so too. I think he really wants the Knicks to win this.
Starting point is 01:39:52 So he's doing like a kind of a, let's not take the, please, let's not take. I think, yeah, just like Bruce, probably a little bit nervous that everybody's picking him. But he's been doing his real, he's been doing real journalism shit on the Pacers. He's been doing his Mikey monologues you know right at the range camera. Here's the one from today. Say it again
Starting point is 01:40:12 underestimate the Pacers at your own risk. Let me count the ways. First, Indiana has won 21 of their last 26 games. That dates back to March 17th. That is the best record in the NBA over that span. During the same time, the Knicks are just 17 and 11. The Pacers are a four and a half point underdog tonight. They are plus 125 in the series. As an underdog in these playoffs, the Pacers are five and two. They eliminated Cleveland as an underdog in their last round.
Starting point is 01:40:46 They eliminated the Knicks as an underdog last year. And finally, while the Knicks have Jalen Brunson in clutch time, Tyrese Halliburton has been equally spectacular. In fact, even more so. He's 10 of 11 in the final 90 seconds of the fourth quarter in overtime on shots to tie or take the lead, which is the highest percentage in a season since at least 1997. And we say it that way because that's when we started keeping track of these things with that level of specific. I love that. Thank you, Greenie for the journalism, right AJ? Thank you for that. Yeah. When Greenie has his glasses in one hand and his papers in the other,
Starting point is 01:41:21 you know, like he means business. Like this is something you need to listen to. And it's just him. And then we even got a big led board right next to him that's going to amplify Hembo's going to get a little showcase in there with some things and I like the Mr. Clutch question mark at the top that was a good graph that was a good graph their D-Bone over there you know did his thing or her thing for sure. Okay ladies and gentlemen joining us now he's a man who on May 11th just won a race in Kansas. Wow. Super duper cup out there in Kansas. Yep. Boom. This guy if he's driving it he's probably winning. He's raced on parking lots and go-karts.
Starting point is 01:41:58 He's raced on dirt and sprint cars. You put him on maybe one of those little kid cars. He's going to win. Ladies and gentlemen, NASCAR superstar, rookie of the year in IndyCar last year. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Larson. Yeah, Kyle! Oh!
Starting point is 01:42:16 Oh! Big Kyle! Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, It's supposed to be a very awkward block. Y'all ready, guys? How you doing, brother? How you doing, brother? That was good, you already did.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Hey, it's supposed to be a really... Oh, a backdoor bid. I like that. I like what you did. Hey, that's drive. I was going to say that. That's inside. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Take it to the inside. Everybody goes this way. You said balls. I didn't know where to go. No, that's the fast way. You made the right play. You made the right play there. You got the corner there.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I went right for once, Respect I like that good driving joke Okay, let's talk about Kyle. So last year when you were doing the Indy 500 the double. Mm-hmm How many people have done in the past? Five have attempted it only Tony Stewart's the only guy to finish all 1100 miles Okay, 1100 miles in a car one day Obviously the Indianapolis 500 the biggest race on earth every single year The greatest spectacle on earth every single year and with so much history tradition this city and state like it's the biggest thing that happens In the world basically so you attempting that as a NASCAR driver then going and doing a 600 mile race
Starting point is 01:43:19 Which is long right? Isn't that a long race for you guys? It could be four to five hours probably. Depending on cautions, yeah, it's long. Okay, so and you're a thin lad. I don't know where all the sweat's coming from while you're doing this and everything like that. But when you were doing it last year, there's been some F1 guys that have come in and tried the Indy 500. Obviously there's been some rookie,
Starting point is 01:43:36 there's a rookie this year on the pole that everybody's excited about. But whenever you came in to do this last year, there was people that were flocking from all over the country to come here. People were showing up at our, out here. And they were like, hey, we're coming to Indianapolis, first time we're here, we're from North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Hey, we're first time we're here, we're from Virginia. Hey, we're from Illinois. And they said, we just want to come take a picture of the Thunderdome. And we asked them, we're like, what are you here for? They're like, Kyle Larson. We're here to watch Kyle Larson do his thing. They call you a man who's the best driver of cars,
Starting point is 01:44:08 maybe in the last two, three generations or whatever. How does that make you feel? Never people say that. And have you just committed your entire life to racing? When did you start like with the dominating of folks in a car? Well, starting off with your first question, it does make me feel really good.
Starting point is 01:44:23 You know, when people compare me like Tony or Mario, AJ Floyd, guys like that. But I try not to pay much attention to it just because I'm still only 32 and I feel like I got a lot of racing left in my career before I should be allowed to be in that category. But no, I started when I was really young. I grew up in California racing go-karts and dirt track stuff, all really dirt track until I got to NASCAR. And I always wanted to do the Indy 500 too. racing go-karts and dirt track stuff all really dirt track until I got to NASCAR and always want to do the Indy 500 too, so
Starting point is 01:44:52 It's pretty neat to get the chance to do it and get to do multiple races in the same day It's pretty awesome. What do you have you have a no fear thing obviously, and I think there's a couple different speeds I guess over 200 miles an hour. I guess now you guys are 235 so over 220 probably I think there's a separator between drivers is what I've heard from living here in Indianapolis. It's like hey There's difference people that can go over 220 probably I think there's a separator between drivers is what I've heard from living here in Indianapolis It's like hey, there's difference people that can go over 220 It's like people in baseball you like and hit the curve ball and people that can't hit the curve ball It's like whoever can control themselves at a higher speed There's like a certain group of people and everybody else is below that for the Indy 500 for Indy car much faster than NASCAR Yeah, and it felt like last year as I was watching you were learning what you were doing basically throughout the race.
Starting point is 01:45:25 I actually put a tweet out about it. It was like it feels like Kyle is literally learning his car in the middle of the Indy 500. Is that true? And how much more prepared are you for this year's? I would say so last year you get so much practice time during these two weeks at Indy. Like you learn your car, you know pretty well, but it's like I've never raced in an Indy car race. So like the race procedure is a lot different the restarts just the drivers the the pit stops like all the little details that are different from NASCAR But I did have some mistakes on one of the earlier restarts and fell back and then had to overcome that so that was that was cool I feel like a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I like you I restarted
Starting point is 01:46:02 I think in my first gear and I hit the rev limiter right when I shifted so then I like maybe overreacted and grabbed another gear and Fell into third and then I was just bogging and yeah, it was bad deal, but learn from it So hopefully this year is a little bit different Yeah So with the driving the racing had view race against these guys or everybody in their own little worlds just only in the Indy 500 Last year a lot of these guys, you know, have a totally different background than me, you know, racing in Europe and stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:27 So, you know, me coming from dirt tracks and stock cars, like, yeah, the only time I race these guys is on Sunday. Okay, so what's the difference? Robbins Racing's next, Mark. That's right. Robbins Racing. Here, there's a lot of racing, but there's next to no rubbing, right?
Starting point is 01:46:43 Because the cars- Yeah, open wheel, yeah. Yeah, you've already seen a lot of cars, or a cars turn over upside down Colton Herda McLaughlin. Yeah Yeah, I spun out on fast Friday. Thankfully didn't flip but um No, I went on to PTSD here, but I believe this is you. Yeah. Yeah, that's me. Yeah, I got lucky That was it. That was pretty generous wreck for the Speedway But honestly to it like going back to the the stock car versus Indy car stuff like I think there's more similarities than there are differences like the I know they look different and you're going way
Starting point is 01:47:12 faster and Indy than you do a NASCAR you know we probably go 195 at Indy there but the overall feel of the car the downforce the our new NASCAR cars are much similar like independent suspension the underbody of aero effects, so What I feel behind the wheel is pretty similar So I feel like it makes the learning curve not as not as steep as maybe it would for others How much you weigh 135 is that that's an advantage right like horse docks the lighter they are obviously the better for the horse to run Mod racers that I've met smaller body.
Starting point is 01:47:45 Connor Daley's built like a middle linebacker. I always thought that was potentially working against him. He looks like he's thinned out though. I seen him this week. He's been in the race. Hey, how do you make it, Connor? He's lean. No, I would say it's an advantage,
Starting point is 01:47:58 but it's not like an extreme advantage, because we all have, like our cars weigh the same. So like, even though I'm light and Connor or and he's not even the biggest guy there Say there's a guy that weighs 200 pounds like I just have to add more weight to my car to make it equal Oh, so you can kind of position that weight, you know balance where you'd want it So that's where I think the advantage come got it. Ty has a question for you Yeah, just curious like because you're not full-time and I think like the race community as a whole, you know
Starting point is 01:48:25 I mean, I'm not like a huge race fan But when you come here like what is your relationship like with the other drivers like do they kind of scoff? I mean everyone knows what you've done in NASCAR But I assume none of these guys want to see you come in and win the Indy 500 your second running Yeah, do Indianapolis people want to see? Yeah, exactly. I think yeah, I think Indy Indianapolis fans and stuff do and and honestly, I don't know like I haven't really personally asked them but I would feel like at least for me coming from NASCAR when guys have come in like Shane Van Gisburg and he came and ran a cup race of Chicago couple years ago and won and
Starting point is 01:48:56 Although it's like not the coolest thing, you know, cuz it not that it makes you look bad or anything But you have a immense amount of respect for all competitors So when they come into a new form and do a good job, I think it's really cool. So I would imagine, you know, maybe not all the guys want to see me do great, but I think there's a respect level there that that yes, you know, you you'd be you'd be happy to see somebody do good. You do any dirt racing in Indy? I raced at Kokomo last Monday.
Starting point is 01:49:24 But growing up but yeah yeah so I grew up in California and then my path kind of followed Jeff Gordon so I moved to Indiana in 2011 ran USAC so I ran around a lot of these tracks here 2002 Anderson up there I that's pavement tracks I didn't do much pavement races yes I've never raced there but gas city Kokomo Putnamville Lawrenceburg I'llville, Lawrenceburg, I'll be at Lawrenceburg next Friday. So I do a lot of dirt racing around Indiana. So I feel like the fans love me. Yes, I think so too. I think it was a very welcome thing.
Starting point is 01:49:53 You mentioned him coming in and winning the Indy 500. I think that's the only reason why they would be okay with it. Because they feel like he's cut his teeth. He's got his teeth here in the racing state. Because that's how people in Indiana genuinely view it. Is it different, the Indy 500, that energy? It's huge. Yeah. Like not only just the race, but like all the days of practice that you have, you know, I'll go practice, like we'll have a practice day in NASCAR and there might be 5,000 people there. At Indy there's like 75,000 people, you know, every day.
Starting point is 01:50:22 So it's kind of crazy that the event is that big spread out over two weeks and there's fans there all the time So yeah, the amount of pictures autographs and all that you sign is crazy, but it's fun. It's cool It makes you just feel like the event is just unlike any other which it is So it's cool to be a part of what your immortalized forever to you win an Indy 500, right? Yeah I mean, that's like the racing world. Yeah, I mean, you get your face on the trophy. Yeah. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, so when did you like know, hey, I'm going to be a racer?
Starting point is 01:50:51 Like, obviously moving was a big deal. But before you even moved, was it something where you were in California knowing, just beating the shit out of a bunch of surfers? Like, oh, I'm going to be really good at it. Yeah, were you surfing fast? Yeah. I was Northern California, so I didn't do any surfing. OK.
Starting point is 01:51:06 No, I think. You went through the wine? Yeah, yeah. For me, for me, obviously, I'm not built to play other sports. So thankfully, I think my family had a big passion for racing. I did, too. And it was just something I was good at and made a lot of friends and memories and all that.
Starting point is 01:51:23 And then just wanted to chase heroes of mine like Jeff and Tony and guys like that. So just fortunate to have a passion for something. So you said you started at Go-Karts? Yeah, yeah, out in California. And dirt trucks? Dirt ovals, yep. How fast were you going?
Starting point is 01:51:38 How old were you? So the carts that I grew up racing, they have like a two-stroke 500cc engine on them. They weigh, back then, like 400 pounds pounds so the power to weight ratio crazy like they're blunt you know popping wheelies and spinning the tires so no power steering no suspension so they're how old are you how old are you oh I was probably 11 then you know when I got to that class I started like you know box stocks which would be like a Briggs and Stratton engine like a lawnmower style engine from like
Starting point is 01:52:05 Yeah, nine, but then you go like a big step to the next you know division Which is crazy, and then you go from that and I went from that to sprint cars, which is another huge step dangerous Yeah, like those are super dangerous right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, nine hundred fifty horsepower four ten hundred pounds Yeah, drift cars and midgets and yeah dirt track track. And then, then got into stock cars. You ever do, like smoke right now is doing the drag race. Yeah, I haven't done that. Yeah. Yeah, he's a funny car.
Starting point is 01:52:33 He's top fuel. He's kicking butt, he's just won this weekend. I feel like he's getting the hang of it. Yeah, I mean, he's the goat. He's the best, so he can figure anything out. When you were a kid, you were just seeing better lines? Better reaction time? I don't know. Better reaction time? I don't know what goes into it but just.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Like what you did right here. I think when you're, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Can't you see? Yeah. I think when you're young you just kind of have a natural talent but then when you get older and you're racing it's all good.
Starting point is 01:52:57 You know adults and kids or whatever, not kids but adults. That's when you kind of have to work at it more so. But yeah I would say in the beginning, and probably still now, a lot of it's natural. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, there's a reason why people are here. Yeah, there's probably most athletes. Everybody works hard at it, but you got some sort of natural ability.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Yes, definitely. Yeah. But you have to work hard though. Yeah. Like TC? Yeah, Tom Cruise has natural ability. He works his ass off. And then he says, you know what? I think I can stand out on this wing right here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:28 And then I can flip it upside down. And then I can fly a plane with my foot. He's got a great NASCAR movie, too. Yeah, yes he does. And Brad Pitt's got an F1 coming out, which we will continue this conversation with Kyle Larson on digital YouTube, ESPN+, Disney+, and more. We'll see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Goodbye. All right, we're off ESPN. We're still on digital. We're still live. Okay Very life. Yep f1 D-butt literally is pooping his pants cuz uh, yeah, we had some yeah I don't know if we should have done we we found some popcorn that had been in our office for maybe a couple years Extra salt extra butter. Yeah
Starting point is 01:53:59 It's not bad, but he's massive f1 fan. Yeah, you guys probably Have seen especially in the NASCAR world because NASCAR used to be the thing. I think still is, obviously, still sells out tracks. Yeah. Still sells out everything, like NASCAR's still a big deal. F1 had their reality show and just became like, whoo. Blow up.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Yeah, it did blow up. I, living in Indianapolis, Indiana, did not grow up in the race community but I did watch the Indy 500 got to meet a lot of the drivers like kind of started learning about it and I watched the Indy racing and they're racing yeah okay it's a lot of racing I watch a NASCAR and it's a lot of hey we're trying to win mm-hmm I watch these F1 races and boy I'm pretty bored yeah yeah they're big cars
Starting point is 01:54:46 They got a lot of money around it a lot of superstars around it The reality show was obviously awesome But it's somebody that was I kind of just dropped into Indianapolis and then given like full like hey you can go down the Pits you can I can literally like learn about this However much I want to or however little I want to how do you guys feel about F1 driving? And have you ever been asked to go drive in f1? I've never been asked to drive an f1. I think it's tough coming from my background of dirt tracks and ovals, but I've been I went to Abu Dhabi in 2021. It was sick. Like the event was awesome
Starting point is 01:55:18 I mean like it was it was incredible But yeah the racing the racing is not what we are accustomed to in America. Like I think you're there, it's crazy how big it is because yeah, you're right. Like it's not super exciting, but I think it's the stuff outside of it. The celebrities that are there, the engineering, the money, just everything about that. You know, the big brands, you know, on the cars and stuff. But you know, I feel like NASCAR and IndyCar here in America like you can't find much more exciting racing than what we have here
Starting point is 01:55:49 So I'm fortunate to get to run both of them But I would definitely never turn down the opportunity to go and I think I were a guy if I'm getting the temperature of the race community Right just because you've been here the last two years I think you would be a guy that America racing would be like, yep We would like to see Kyle go ahead and represent for us over there. So hopefully one day that's able to happen. Didn't they shut down an American team and then they,
Starting point is 01:56:12 yeah, I think they're like European soccer. I thought Cadillac's coming. Yeah, but they- Yeah, Haas is out there and then Cadillac's coming next year that you're after. Yeah, they're based out of here. Yeah, they have a nice, really nice facility right by our race shop in Charlotte.
Starting point is 01:56:24 It's big, it's big. It's cool So Charlotte calls itself Charlotte's like the Indianapolis of NASCAR. Yeah, I know cuz I'll go down to Charlotte No, it is the home of race. I didn't know that nope It is Indianapolis. Yeah, Charlotte is sweet. That is the home Hendrix Motorsports. It has a whole campus. Yeah, it's beautiful Yeah, I was there. Yeah, that's where you went to do Yeah, that was what you got like and they have ex college football players running the pits Oh, yeah, they have like weight room. They have gym in the morning They're making a huge facility now for like a new fitness center
Starting point is 01:56:55 It's gonna be it's gonna be legit like it's college like level campus, you know, like they I think they went and toured, Alabama So to be pretty similar. Yeah, it was a college campus We literally we went over to practice with the pit crew Then we went over to the gym to live for some another team's pit crew then we want and add some food there was a big obviously a diner and it's like it's kind of all encompassing down there and What a sport NASCAR's been moonshiners, right? And that how it all started. Yeah, I guess yeah running running some moonshine back in the day Do you can build engines and shit? I'm not no, I'm not I'm not a car guy at all I just hold the steering wheel press the gas pedal. I don't know much about a car
Starting point is 01:57:32 Yeah, I like to hear in the seat and go and I'll try and make it go as fast as a lot of drivers A lot of drivers when it doesn't go their way What I've learned from an extended period of time here in Indianapolis is it's cars fault Okay, a lot of the car getting blamed. Yeah. Yeah, you've heard that in the race. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so that is that's right Yeah, I gave it all I could today the car the boys. We try we had yeah Yeah, bingo the car and is that real is that a real excuse being? Uh, it is it is a legit, you know excuse a little bit But I try hard not to you know do that too often because I do feel like you know
Starting point is 01:58:04 The driver obviously means a ton so but yes, there's to, you know, do that too often because I do feel like, you know, the driver obviously means a ton. So, but yes, there's always only, you know, so much you can do with your car. Like if you got a 20th place car, it's really hard to win with it. It's hard to crack the top 10 sometimes, but you know, if you get a car that, you know, is 10th, you can do some things and execute,
Starting point is 01:58:22 out execute your competitors and win. What a bit, so can you explain to people who maybe don't know the race world as much if you have a 20th car or a 10th car what you're talking about is literally the fastest that this car can go is probably about the 10th fastest in this particular race because Of some bolt being tightened a little bit more on some other car or what no no just like the setup of it You know the shocks the springs the all the all the mechanics and the engineering that goes on with making the most grip and speed and aerodynamics out of the car. Not necessarily just a bolt being tighter than another's, but... But that is potentially something though. Oh yeah, if you have something fall off, for sure.
Starting point is 01:58:57 But like, what I've heard is you all get similar chassis or something like that. And then there's changes to one little thing little thing like we're gonna drop the front fender Just like this. Oh, yeah, and then like not even a quarter of an inch. You're talking like less Yeah, and that can add like three miles an hour for a lot down force. Whatever Yeah, it's it's finicky like all the cars now even Indy car any cars probably more so that's pretty similar though But yeah, just with spec racing like yeah, our cars are pretty similar So like any little advantage that you find could be worth, you know a decent amount and that's why these engineers are getting paid So much. Yeah, and that's why you have you know hundreds of engineers the guys on the computers and girls on the computers during the races
Starting point is 01:59:36 They're like reading how every part of the car is we're at the way studying pictures of other teams cars and looking You know it little features they might have on there tweaked from what you would have or like trying to judge their tire pressures And it's it's like it's a very scientific thing that's going on super I think back in the day used to be a little bit more running gun right like have a big crew We're gonna build the engine And I don't think they had regulations on how much but like if you could get more power you can get more power So it's a little bit out of control. Now there's regulations on it. It's like being able to win within it
Starting point is 02:00:07 is a massive part of it. It's going on with the Penske team right now. And they're saying it's not just the Penske team, it's been happening throughout the entirety. It's like that is racing as a whole, I think always trying to find. You're always trying to push the limits on everything. So any small advantage.
Starting point is 02:00:22 And I'm sure it's the same in stick and ball sports. You're trying to find the edge of the rules and get your advantage within that. So it's no different in racing. Yeah, just super, super, super smart people. Yeah. With like, these guys in professional sports. Yeah, he's lead engineer for a car that blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 02:00:41 It's like, what does he do every day? He tries to make the greatest, most, what's that called? Aerodynamic. Yeah, boom, aerodynamic vehicle of all time while having more power than any car has ever had. How fast will you go during a race? Indy? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:57 I would say in the draft, yeah, we're probably still in the 230s, 235s, like top speed. You need Tom Cruise in there. Yeah. They need to drop Tom Cruise in there fast enough for TC Yeah, and four hundred five when that gets to 300 miles an hour. Let Tom Cruise know go ahead So the situation happened last year with New Garden, I believe alright, so say it's the last lap any 500 Would you rather be in first or second? Whoo?
Starting point is 02:01:20 That's a good Man like looking at where Pato was last year, I don't see how you do anything different really. You know, like Newgard in his car was so extremely good and it was hard for others to build those runs on the back stretch. So I think, you know, he had his run on the front stretch and he took his opportunity.
Starting point is 02:01:38 And then you're just hoping that you have just enough, which he almost, you know, had just enough speed and distance before he got to turn three so man, I don't know I'd be curious what Pato would think but If you got the opportunity to take the lead on the last lap You have to take it like you can't I feel like you can't wait until turn two and like hope that you're gonna Have this run or no, you guys are setting up the move. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I think yeah, I think you got to get to the lead, you know is when up the move, aren't you? Yeah, yeah. Slate shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:05 I think, yeah, I think you got to get to the lead, you know, when you can. The weather made last year chaotic for you. Tough. Literally. Yeah. Yeah. Literally Midwest. It literally pissed on your entire plane.
Starting point is 02:02:17 It did. That was actually what happened. Yeah, it did. The same storm, literally the same storm that delayed the Indy 500 got to Charlotte in time for me to get there literally right right when I got there it was such a sick plan to plane helicopter we're in yeah McGee was following yeah so yeah McGee on the trail obviously that's great but weather's a big deal for these cars right like this weekend I think it's supposed to be 68 yeah be colder so
Starting point is 02:02:42 that good or bad um I mean drivers would prefer like hotter conditions probably although it'd be tougher in the car because it'd be hot in the car Like the tires don't stick to the surface is good So it would be sliding around more and more mistakes which allows for more passing When it's cooler, the tracks got more grip drivers are making less mistakes. The speeds just kind of stay faster So yeah, typically I prefer warmer conditions. Okay, so when it's colder You said more grip. Yes Yeah, yeah more grip. I don't know why you want less grip for more mistakes so you can take it. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that's an awesome theory
Starting point is 02:03:18 I did not know that was good I assumed because they always said the weather and I always assumed hotter was faster and that would be more grippy Because it would be just think of the surface gets hot your tires get hotter So it just becomes like slimy melts off of the surface Yeah, you're looking for all you're looking for somebody to accidentally slime a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit. Yes a little bit What's the move? Hey, do people watch film on each other? Like what is your move? I mean, it probably depends on like like track and type of car I might be in but yeah I mean you're always studying like your competitors or previous races to see what moves worked like restarts especially. What's a standard move you think like a setup and then
Starting point is 02:03:55 like a duck? I mean at Indy it's pretty simple like you have to get this big run off of say turn two or turn four and then catch the draft and then yeah you just make your move it's pretty simple but restarts is where it gets crazy you know the fields bunched up it's hard to pass so you're trying to make the most of the restarts and yeah I mean it'll fan out three four wide the draft the draft is like crazy big in the Indy car which is weird to feel you know compared to stock car we have drafting but like Indy car it's like you get in that pocket of air and it's like a full boost.
Starting point is 02:04:27 You can feel it. Oh yeah. Yeah, it gets quiet because the wind is now like, you know, you're inside of this pocket of air. So it gets like kind of silent. It's, it's, it's kind of weird. That's like out of a movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:37 That's crazy. That's like, you're feeling it for the first time. And then you're like, oh shit, I'm in here right now. Yeah. Well, then you pull out and then you have all the wind back on top of your car and it gets like loud. You like, your car starts moving around a little bit It's it's different then rattle you a little bit first time you felt it in the race. No, no your dog
Starting point is 02:04:54 You guys in NASCAR there for a little bit remember when you guys were doing the f1 style of racing where you guys were literally Just nose on tail. Oh, yeah, the tandem style. That was that was before my time. Thank God that was terrible I turned that on and I'm like, how do they think this is what how do they think in and I was being told? I didn't understand draft and all this shit. It's like I just know that that looks stupid You guys look like literally caterpillars rolling around the entire race. Do you like what the changes the NASCAR has made? What is it the three thing now? Yeah, what's that? Stages, oh the stages. Um, I don't I could take it or leave it I think for me
Starting point is 02:05:32 I would I would like I would like to not have stages because I think it makes the strategy of the race way better Because you don't know when the cautions coming when you know that the cautions coming it's so easy to plan your race and like All right, you know, we going to pit midway through this stage and that's going to get us. And then you never get to really pushing the length of your tires to where they're completely wearing out. So I think if we didn't have stages,
Starting point is 02:05:56 you would see more drivers pushing early in the run and falling back later in the run and things like that. But also, I think stages is good because where life is and like the attention span of younger adults these days. So like the timed caution is probably better for them and TV too getting their commercials in and all that. So there's more that goes into it. Yeah but the playthrough brother you can have the... Oh yeah. I wish they would do more of that but yeah. Okay I'm happy you said that.
Starting point is 02:06:25 And I think you saying that will have a lot of say because all of us not were outsiders in this entire thing, but you'll turn on a NASCAR race or whatever. You know, be like, we're in stage one. We got this many laps left. And it's like, I don't care. Stage one. Does that mean you win the race? No, you don't win the race. OK, so they're having a quarter.
Starting point is 02:06:40 They're having a period, I'm sorry. And then I so I need to get to I want to be here in the third period That's where I want to be so for me that it's done that especially when you grew up when it was just like oh You start on lap one on lap 225 the race is over. Yeah, and they have to go Yeah, and they like that to your point about strategy gas is a big deal, right? Yeah tires is a big tires more so than gas and a lot of the tracks, but yeah. Somebody won the 500 two years ago, they ran out of gas as they finished. There's a gas strategy. You know the gas strategy in the 500? Have you and the boys talked about the gas strategy?
Starting point is 02:07:14 You've got different fuel mappings to lean your engine out, which cuts power but saves fuel. You can steal some first laps, which obviously helps to check. You can steal some, just stay out longer than everybody else. You can steal some first place. Yeah, well, like people don't want to be leading the race because then you're burning the most fuel. You want to be in that draft so you can like be off the throttle, saving fuel.
Starting point is 02:07:33 It just extends your runs and stuff like that. Okay, so that's a big piece for us to know. Yeah, there's so much strategy that goes into every race. But yes, especially Indy with the fuel. Fuel's, I feel like from what I've learned, most important there. Good AJ's wearing a youth large Devonte Adams New York jet jersey. Yes I am Kyle you talked about your 135 pounds I wonder like your what you have to do physically to get ready for you know
Starting point is 02:07:57 big race season I imagine there's not a whole lot of time when you're actually out of the car for an extended period but what also like what is the most grueling racing that you think that you do on your body physically? Yeah, so I'm unique because I do get to race a lot of different types of racing. And I'm racing all the time. So I'm not really home at the gym all the time. But when I am home, I like to get in there and do gym. I really enjoy riding my bike.
Starting point is 02:08:20 I feel like my cycling for the endurance of it is good for like NASCAR. But then when I do my dirt track stuff, those are 30 lap races and in the intensity, like my heart rate will spike right away. Where like in NASCAR, I wear this Garmin watch and I track my heart rate at all my races. Like in NASCAR I'll be average of 140, 150 throughout the race.
Starting point is 02:08:43 You might have your moments where it gets up there and whatnot but sprint car racing The 950 horsepower 4200 pounds, you know, it might be a seven minute race But my heart will be my heart will be like 195 the whole time. She's just Gassed so I like I like the intensity of that So I think with the training that that part of it's weird for me probably because you know I should do more like endurance but then I also have to like be ready for intense moments too. So don't you guys do a lot of this shit? I've been to a couple indie car
Starting point is 02:09:13 like the rolling. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. That's part of it. Yeah, forearms. Yeah. And then shoulders. Yeah. I tapped out of one of those. The reflex thing too. I have a question. Yeah, yeah, we do a lot of that. Yeah, hand-eye kind of cognitive stuff. That's good for your brain. Anybody smoke weed over there? No. We're not allowed to. Go ahead, Tom.
Starting point is 02:09:31 No, you're talking about the shoulders and stuff. In both the crashes this weekend where they flipped over, their hands immediately went here. Is that taught in just Indy or NASCAR? I would say mostly Indy is where. So we never did that really in NASCAR until Danica came. Yeah. And I think it's because when you hit like when you spin or hit the wall in Indy car, like the wheel is just you know spinning so fast. So like a lot of people break their wrists if you
Starting point is 02:09:54 oh on the wheel, keep your hand on the wheel too long. So yeah like you've kind of just naturally got trained now like whenever you get ready to hit the wall I just brace and mostly just so I don't break a wrist or anything like this the hand then the sparks flying. Yeah Yeah, I didn't know they both did that on purpose. Yeah, didn't always have that top. What's that? Halo? I guess the top halo or that Indy car didn't used to have that's crazy That's why it's called open wheel, right? Open wheel just for it because the tires are out there like there's no fenders, you know around the tires Yeah, okay open-ass wheel. Okay, they will take a trip out of the speedway. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 02:10:29 Yeah, seen just what last year the run out of gas Alexander Rossi. Oh, yeah, that's yeah 2016 He won the race by running out of gas just before crossing the finish line He stretched his final tank of fuel over 90 miles and with the help of a tow finished the final lap at a slow speed Allowing him to take the checkered flag with an empty fuel tank because everybody else is going in so he they're going in and he's just stealing laps while they're going in and then he gets so far ahead just because the entire commentators like is he gonna serve is he gonna make it and then he finally finished and he won congrats Rossi absolute dog so I'm saying that's a strategy yeah there's And there's also, you know, smaller race teams
Starting point is 02:11:07 that I potentially sponsor the car in that you talk about being in first, not great first, you're going to win. But if you're one of the smaller race teams. Good for exposure. When everybody else is pitting. Yeah. And we're staying out here.
Starting point is 02:11:20 Showing you what we got left. We're going to go top five right now, top five right now. And that was me. So last year I ended up speeding on on Pit Road at the end of it. So we got our strategy kind of off. And my crew guy, or the strategist, he kept me out so I could lead some laps. I was like, man, that's kind of embarrassing. That's not really the way I wanted to lead laps in the Indy 500.
Starting point is 02:11:39 But I'll take it. Only people that really know know what's happening. The majority of fans that are watching are just like oh shit I would read all he led laughs in his first any 500. It's so great I'm like man, I kind of like in bed on pit road and like had to lead some laughs Everybody else pitted so you said you're doing dirt track racing with next week. Yeah, Lawrence Berg. Yep. So you just stay out here No, I'll go so I'll go call 600. Yeah, and then then I'll go I'll get to hang out at home for a little bit. Okay, so night before we're doing pasta We're doing water. Uh
Starting point is 02:12:12 Yeah, a little I don't know probably some pasta be good. I like some pasta but boss was impossible We do like really good tongue. Yeah spaghetti meat sauce, but I would say before like before the race though I'm I'm pretty standard like chicken veggies rice got it What then after I think before like when I'm on the plane going to Charlotte I'll probably do like a you know Mexican style bowl, you know protein bowl and then Last year I got an IV and was ready to rock. Those are amazing the IVs
Starting point is 02:12:41 Yeah, I'm happy we've gotten to a point in society where nurses just show up with hey You don't feel good though. All right, give us 15 minutes and just plug us in. That's a big deal AJ I think for the humans as a whole that that is possible. I think Vegas is credited with probably starting them, right? For the hangover cures. Yeah, that's the biggest thing I think Vegas used to drive around and you could get picked up on the street legitimately I think Vegas kind of started it like hey,, uh, you're going to be dead tomorrow. We got the answer. We got four nurses that quit their jobs.
Starting point is 02:13:10 Now they show up with IVs right to your hotel room. Right. We're going to go do it. Yes. Okay. So you boil. Yeah. It's got to get done.
Starting point is 02:13:18 We liked that a lot. And then like now everywhere has it. Like now everywhere has a, I think dumpy was getting an IV drip every single Sunday, basically grave spot downtown. That's what it's just like unbelievable. We're just at a period of time now where it's just normal like yeah just go get an IV get kind of get figured out. Locker rooms of football teams used to do it at halftime and it would all be all the doctors trying to prick them remember they wouldn't travel with nurses it would be surgeons who are
Starting point is 02:13:41 like 60 years old who haven't set up an IV in 30 40 years yeah they're gonna do it. Damn near. Well that was a shot. Shot but yeah. Yeah similar thing. All right I'm happy you're getting plugged in. Good luck for the 600 and the 500. 1100 miles of racing. I think everybody's excited to hopefully watch it go off without a hitch without Mother Nature getting involved. It looks like early indications that a Doppler is it's gonna be a beautiful Sunday for you to go racing. Yeah thanks I keep my fingers crossed that the rain stays away this year. Okay so who all do we got to give credit to? I know you racers have to fucking. Oh hendrikars.com. Yep.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Chevrolet, Aaron McLaren, Prime. I got Amazon Prime following me around for the last couple years. Wow Bezos! Yeah yeah no so... That's how you got that car out there. Hey, Louis, what a loner. Oh, okay, still. I can't believe you're driving that in Indiana. Yeah, so I realized there's no license plate on it right now either, so I'm like, what do I do if I get pulled over? You're good. You're good. Cops. You just beat them. You just drive fast.
Starting point is 02:14:38 Yeah, you don't get pulled over. No, the cops understand. There's an old story here in Indianapolis where somebody was driving on a highway Like some like a car like you were driving they get pulled over in a cop like as cops walking up goes Who do you think you are Mario and ready? I'm in pizza. It is Mario and ready Yeah, like that is this city is ready for you to do whatever the hell you want in a car out there But the potholes I guess you did yeah, you got a bad here bad so bad good reflexes Just so everybody knows what we're talking about. He showed up in a McLaren. I think is that what that was? Yeah This high off the ground nasty. Absolutely nasty in our first thought everybody's first thought when I pulled in was how did he make it here? Yeah, from making in the part
Starting point is 02:15:19 Yeah, it's like this crazy. Yeah down here Yeah We have not helped the situation beautiful car as are the Indy car in NASCAR's and We appreciate you taking the time and we appreciate you committing to Indianapolis like this not only as a child, you know I love Indy. I love Indy. I lived here for a couple years. It's always like another home Oh good. We love that fact that you're doing the Indy 500 maybe do it every year. You're gonna do it every year. Uh We'll see. I don't know right now. This is it but um You're gonna do it every year? We'll see, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:15:43 Right now this is it, but it's so fun that I feel like I'll have FOMO if I miss it. I think everybody wants you to do it too. Yeah, need to see it happen. Yeah, you need to win both. Need to win both of them, yeah. Just do it. I got a lot of friends that are in that.
Starting point is 02:15:59 I got a lot of friends that are in that. Just win, dude. We got a lot of friends in that, any 500, okay? And I'm a big fan of all of them Especially with the mindset them new gardens going in to this race after what happened with the qualities You know he wasn't able to run his car because of something that was happening I don't think he knew about or penske knew about it clearly Fire fired everybody fired everybody today just a few days before the biggest event of the year in the season
Starting point is 02:16:23 But to those boys, I say you guys had your shot. You need to go win these days. That'd be great for racing. I mean, that'd be great for racing as a whole. And everybody thinks you really got to do it. So good luck out there. Thank you guys. Stay safe.
Starting point is 02:16:35 Stay safe. All right. Shout to Tom Cruise. Shout to Kyle Larson. Tease and pease to Dee Butch. And we're going to get the hell out of here. AJ, you really crushed it on this Jersey Wednesday, brother. Yep, thank you.
Starting point is 02:16:45 Yeah, this is my last Jersey day, I think, so yeah. I'll send you a new one. We'll figure it out. Okay, thank you. Connor loves the Jersey. It was literally four minutes before we went live. He goes, we're all wearing Jerseys. Aren't we all wearing Jerseys?
Starting point is 02:16:57 Yeah, we did. That's all we were. He said, you have a Jersey right over your shoulder. Right there, there's a Jersey. Just put the Jersey on. And then I thought I fucking ruined it for the Pacers. So I'm kind of in a bad spot right now shout to Tom shout to Kyle shout to you AJ we'll be back tomorrow
Starting point is 02:17:09 conference finals tonight here we go enjoy the hell out of that good luck in that car brother be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life we're in this thing together team on me team not yet guys are a racer yeah yeah yeah good reflex team on three one two three

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