The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1349 - Eastern Conference Finals Game 4 Recap, JJ Watt LIVE In Studio, Quentin Richardson, Peter Schrager, Cornell Lacrosse National Champion CJ Kirst, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, and the boys are joined LIVE in studio by future first ballot Hall of Famer JJ Watt, recapping last night’s Game 4 victory for the Indiana Pacers over the New York Knicks, Pat’s promo at the game, and everything else in the sports world. In the first hour, 13-year NBA Vet Quentin Richardson joins the progrum to talk about the Pacers seizing the moment, the evolution of the skill level of the NBA, SGA’s stardom, Rick Carlisle’s playoff prowess, and more. In the second hour, JJ Watt gives us his insight on Trey Hendrickson’s contract situation, Burnley getting back to the Premier League, and more. ESPN’s NFL Analyst & die-hard Knicks fan to recap his experience at the game, Jalen Ramsey’s trade talks, and more. Also in the second hour, Cornell Men’s Lacrosse star & National Champion CJ Kirst joins us to break dahn his road to the title and whats ahead in the NLL or PLL. In the last hour, we wrap things up with an awesome edition of #AskJage. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this superstar Wednesday May 28th 2025 this program begins now Sports are happening all around us and let's just get right to it You saw the massive creature that is sitting on the stage that refused to say anything once the beat dropped Which is a okay because I've heard he's a great teammate We shall see today the toxic tables here at Table is here at Boss of Connor and at Ty Schmidt. What a treat it is today to have.

What a legend with us here on the Thunderdome stage. Unbelievable treat. I mean, you're talking about turning just a dreary Wednesday into arguably maybe the greatest collective day of our lives. Superstar Wednesday, of course. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is sitting where normally one half of the hammer, done. Cowboys AP Tone seats. And that's because we got surprised guests to flew in here to Indianapolis, Indiana

He's shocked as soon as the door flew open We just felt this presence wouldn't be a superstar Wednesday without the superstar superstar Yeah, you're right the superstar of all superstars your super your favorite superstars favorite superstars, right ladies the gentleman joining us I don't know all the accolades, okay? We did not write them down. No, no, we did not. He's been defense player a year before, he's MVP before, the guy obviously is a hero, he saved the city legitimately, raised over $40 million for the city of Houston, and didn't

do it because, you know, he wanted to glitz and,ab, did it because he felt obligated to do as such because he was the representative of the city of Houston for so damn long. As he was first round draft pick for the Houston Texans, they actually boot his ass out of town. He gets drafted in the first round of the Houston Texans, they say, who is this what from Wisconsin? Get this guy the hell off our team.

What would he end up doing? Well, he'd become the greatest player in the franchise's history. Become a man that was not only phenomenal at tackling quarterbacks. He was so good at it. 120 plus. Wow, so many of those. Future first ballot Hall of Famer,

because of what he did on defensive side. But let's not get twisted on the offensive side too, he's got to touch it up. Exactly. And then on special teams, because he's so abnormally large. He was given maximum effort, which abnormal amount of effort given at all times.

Ladies and gentlemen, maybe the superhero of the superstars, JJ Watt is here. Yay! How you doing, James? Thank you. I'm great. It's great to be here. This place is unbelievable.

This is really cool. Yeah, this place is awesome. First, no. Yeah, it's his first trip. He's been cool. Yeah, this place is awesome first. No, yeah, it's his first trip He's been doing a show what four or five years now. Yeah. Yeah, no, it is four or five years first trip out here He's also in the Midwest everyone's Wisconsin is literally stones throw. Yeah, I think you can actually skip Yeah, I'm gonna give a rock to it. So the fact that you came today was a surprise. I want to let you know positive We are very happy you're here. Are we? That's right. I feel it. I can feel it. I

Can tell it's just such a you guys are so jacked is so excited We are we walked in here We were super excited about the only one not Jack's tone digs because you can't share the stage with one of his favorite players Of all time. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, let's head over to Hammer. Die! Die! See, JJ, Jesus. I'll get there. Mm-hmm. AP Tone over there. Love you, JJ!

Tell him we had no idea this guy was coming. Just a nice little fresh surprise that JJ Watt makes an appearance, and obviously it's a perfect time to have him because there's a lot of NFL news happening, and whenever we start talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers and their situation in AP Tone, we will certainly bring you in. Now, JJ, let's chitchat about last night Did you see what the Indiana Pacers did to the New York Knicks right here in Indianapolis, Indiana? Game four of the Eastern Conference finals now the Pacers are up three to one and

I'll tell you being in there having a chance to sit second row, but also courtside at the same time right alongside the Pacers bench It was a promo's right was promos, right? Yeah, well, Jage, you always like to bring up a little bit of heat. Just promo. Yeah, it was one promo. Did not know I was getting a microphone. Did not know I was getting a microphone.

Would like that to be known. Because there was money paid for the seats that we were sitting in. A lot of them, a lot of it. Yours? Not my money. Was gonna be my money. And then it was somebody else said we could do that

and I said, yeah, actually. You should. With how much you could certainly do that. So I thought there was a chance like, hey, just come enjoy the game, do the thing. So I'm watching them do the shots around the arena of people. It's like, damn, there's a lot of people here.

A lot of ex Pacers here. Great to see Danny Granger was back in the building. Jermaine O'Neal was back in the building. Obviously Mike Abso- One of the best jerseys of all time. If you owned a Jermaine O'Neal jersey back in the day, that is- that was the trait. Jermaine O'Neal was beloved in this. I mean obviously big pop form. There was a lot of superstars out. Everybody was seemingly there. Jelly Roll was there last time. I mean Triple H, I was obviously alongside. 50 Cent was in the building. So they're showing all these people and I'm like, okay cool. Yeah, they're not expecting me You know to do anything, you know, cuz that is like that is a moment in there

You've had to experience it obviously numerous times D Butch I think probably has experienced it at Florida Panthers game, which we will get to they're about to go and win this entire thing again But yeah, I was like cool. I don't have to do it then fourth quarter comes guy with camera comes and he goes Hey, can we put you on a thing? What am I gonna say? No, I know there. I don't think so. I say sounds good, man Sounds good cool guy too good good vibes good energy is carrying around camera on that You do this thing So then the MC in there who I do know comes over with the microphone in the ears thing and he goes he's standing

I mean, I go are you interviewing me? goes, no, I'm giving you the microphone. I'm like, oh, I'm kind of promo here. Okay. So now we got about 30, 45 seconds. So I started looking around. I see Spike Lee down there, literally covered up in like a babushka. I don't know what he had like a thing over there.

I looked down at him and I look over to the right and it was so cool to see Timothy Chalamet there. First of all, the way Timothy Chalamet has become like- Unbelievable. As a child, they have shit from him as a kid, with trying to meet Amari Stoudemire and everything as a Knicks fan, now becoming the face and also becoming like the guy whenever it comes to being a thespian and being an actor

and how he wants to do it and what he did at college game day. Seeing him was sweet, like very cool. Ben Stiller? I grew up watching Ben Stiller. Yeah. He's out there for the- I mean it was just a cool moment, but it was very clear what I needed to do, you know, what the assignment was as soon as I saw him. Cause these guys are all front row,

I mean they're a part of the show. They're getting things said to them, they're getting things said back. So yeah, 30, 45 seconds decide to come up with something, you know, let's send these guys out here. How we're going to get there, didn't know. Sons of bitches was certainly not something that was on the mind until I was in the middle of it.

It's like, hmm, feel like we got to bring a little bit of a hammer here But we'd like to let them all know mad respect for coming out Mad respect for the amount of support they're showing the New York Knicks and also all love Timothy Chalamet knew Certainly because he's been inches away at the college game day thing whenever I saw and I Yeah, he he as I had the mic I look over and he's got a shit-eating grin on his face I'm like, well, I think he knows what's about to happen here. I don't think Ben Stiller knows.

And Ben Stiller did not love it. From what I read from Ben Stiller's... And not at all. Boo hoo! Okay. What do you say? Shut up! He said it would not happen.

Wouldn't not happen in New York. Okay. Okay. Wouldn't happen in Madison Square Garden. And he said it was weird. You know, some people were calling me classless in this entire thing. It's like hey, it was in but this wasn't on TV Okay, this was the assignment was hey, we blew the game in the fourth quarter in game three. Okay, I knew that We got a lead right now going in let's make sure we turn this shit up a little bit Let's turn this year. I get Carl all going to he no sells it no look at all

But then yeah, I I didn't think about there being a negative reaction Which once again now I find myself sometimes in a situation where it's like, oh, that was sweet This whole place just want bananas boys on the bench. Just one crazy sat down next to my wife She was like, hey, that was a lot of fun. Nick Kong goes, okay, and then Triple H goes unbelievable Thank you, thank you was really cool and then obviously you know it goes how it goes and that's how the world is but I just want to let everybody know hey the assignment was to turn that son of a bitch upside down and that's all it was I do apologize that some of them

said some of the aggregators cut it off before I said let's send them home with their ears ringing you know they just said let's send these sons of bitches back to New York like I was kicking them out of town well it was a little bit harder than what I was delivering. Works today for sure what I was delivering was the ears ringing. Get loud. Get loud is what I was saying send these sons of bitches back to New York with their ears ringing. Turn this shit up. That's literally what I was saying so it's like I think you gotta aggregate a little different what I was saying. So it's like, I think you go aggregate a little different when I'm saying send these sons of bitches out of our fucking city. I was not saying that anybody even handed the mic in the fourth quarter of a playoff game before

like a fan. That's unbelievable. Thank you. I didn't think about that. And people like, I don't know if I've ever seen that, a legit major game for quarter right there like yeah like here we're gonna hand a mic to this guy and we have no clue what he's gonna say yeah he does not know he's getting a microphone unless somebody else was told that I was getting a mic and just didn't relay the message and you legitimately had to hype up those guys so much like it had to be just so on that note James Johnson who needs to be talked about more dog dog Absolute weapon does his job perfectly even when he's not in the game does his job perfectly He comes over gives me a boom boom love that walks away

Got that guy on my side. Yeah, that's good news. That's all you need. That's literally all it turns out Do you know who James Johnson is? Yeah. Okay. So he is the enforcer for the Pacers. I believe is how, I don't know if that's how everybody views him, but that's how I was kind of introduced to who he is.

Hey, this guy's been brought in here, basically to make sure Ty Reese and the boys, you know, we got a guy in here. Ken Hoop has played multiple times during the playoffs, but he is a black belt, I think, in judo, I don't know. He's a dog. And he's also six foot 10, whatever the case is. He's huge.

Sweet look, sweet tats, sweet dreads, everything is, he's sweet looking. Grill. Yeah, he's got an awesome grill. So his job is to protect the boys, I think. I thought that was just physically, but in the NBA, because of how close everybody sits on top of you, just like in the NFL, I assume you've thought that was just physically, but in the NBA,

because of how close everybody sits on top of you, just like in the NFL, I assume you've had fans yell at you a lot about JJ White, you suck, whatever it is. There was a guy, three Knicks fans, front row right here, they bought those tickets behind the Pacers bench to do exactly what they were doing at the beginning of the game.

They were yelling at Tyrese. I mean, they were giving it to Tyrese. This is over Triple H's head, because Triple H is sitting right next to Tyrese. I mean, they were giving it to Tyrese. This is over Triple H's head. Because Triple H is sitting right next to Tyrese. So this is happening over his head, basically. And that James Johnson guy, as of the time out, this guy's getting after Tyrese. He just looks at him, calls him a very strong word, I will say. Very, very strong word to the Knicks guy. Now the Knicks guy's attention is completely off of Tyrese. And now it's talking to James.

And James delivered a verbal assault of this man that was a first round knockout. Stronger than Sons of Bitches? Yeah, much stronger. I know it is. Much stronger than that. But old buddy, instead of yelling at Tyrese the rest of the game, is yelling at James and Tyrese.

And I'm like, this guy literally just did his job better. Jumped on the grenade. He's yelling at James and Tyrese and I'm like this guy literally just did his job better. Jumped on the grenade. Bingo yeah because like Tyrese doesn't have to hear it. Now granted Tyrese probably locked in. He was locked in too. It was very cool to watch Tyrese be that locked in. Also yelling on bench like that's I mean it was cool to watch Tyrese like kind of because we were on their bench basically. It was cool to watch Tyrese work but Tyrese didn't have to deal with these guys. Great shit talkers. These guys were very adamant, good shit talkers. Instead their attention goes right to James. It was a wonderful night. Wonderful night. I mean, Tyrese, Wisconsin guy. Let me come on. Let's give him his credit. Oh yeah. Oshkosh,

born and bred, did end up going to Iowa State. Would have loved him to stay a Badger. What, did you guys offer him? No, they didn't. I've asked him the same thing. I know. I mean, we've, I know. The Badgers didn't think Tyrese Halliburton could play basketball for them? Crazy. Wow. I'd like to go back and redo that.

They didn't offer you coming out of high school, did they? No, they did not offer me. I was too small. Is there a Wisconsin problem? Yeah, do Wisconsin people have problems with Wisconsin people? No, no, not at all. What's up with your state?

Not at all. OK, West Virginia, let's calm it all. What's up with your state? Not at all. Okay, West Virginia, let's calm it down. Rich Rod's back, brother. Let's calm it down. Everybody calm it down. Hey, watch your feet. Rich Rod's back, brother. I see your Iowa flags on the floor.

I see you kind of understand what's happening over there. No, that's Iowa wrestling. I see what's happening. JJ, how did the Iowa Wisconsin game go this past year? Not good, not good, not good, man. I'll tell you what, that one is the one one that that one hurts because that's like a direct one to one comparison yeah and to get the shit kicked out of us they're hurt it's coming back around okay you're a Wisconsin guy you know Ty Reese since

high school I assume long time I don't know him personally you're a fan of his obviously coming out of Wisconsin yeah cuz you had that log cabin remember you had in Wisconsin throughout the years yeah just had a little log cabin, remember you had in Wisconsin throughout the years? Yeah. Just had a little log cabin he built his hands. Yeah, he's just got a small studio here. Yeah. No, I've never said, I've never said the Thunderdome isn't.

I said it was a log cabin. It was a log cabin. That's true. It was a four season. It was built out of logs. I think it was a four season. The thing was built out of logs. Yeah, they put logs on the outside of a four season.

I mean, when I saw the, of a four seasons it was great I saw his house it wasn't a gimmick I said I had a log cabin I lived in a cabin made out of logs yeah it was a little bit large but it was still made out of logs I didn't know there was a size limit on cabins I think it's the LED lights around the TV in the log cabin Is you know, you don't have the Jordan shoe rack the wood-burning stove I had a wood-burning stove

Yeah Nonetheless beautiful home over there. Yeah, okay, and you follow with Wisconsin So you knew Tyree since he was a high schooler? I have not known him long enough, but I do know that he's potentially a superstar. Well, I mean, probably take the potential off. Well, there's the bet. Not everybody. There's a lot of debate.

For others, for others. It's the small market shit. Yeah, agreed. That legitimately is what it is, isn't it? No doubt. So they pulled up the definition earlier, we thought that was a good play. We figured we'd do the same thing.

Let's hear what Merriam-Webster has to say. That's the authority. Yeah. Merriam, for a long time, has been saying, this is what a word is. This is what a word isn't. That's right. Whatever you say, Merriam-Webster. I've actually had somebody tell me that Merriam-Webster a little lazy on a definition of a word before.

One of the greatest lines I've ever heard from somebody. That's a lazy definition. I'm saying you're calling Merriam-Webster lazy. Kind of mailed it in, but that's the authority that Merriam-Webster has. So let's read the definition for a superstar, shall we? JJ, what? Let's do it.

One, okay, this is the first one. Sure. This first definition of a superstar. A star, parenthesis, as in sports or the movies. TC. Tom Cruise. Right, yeah, right and boots, and parenthesis, who is considered extremely talented. Is Ty Reese considered extremely talented? Let's go, last night, does something nobody in the history has ever done before. Got to a point where Ty Reese actually said during his post-game press conference, he said, I

feel like we're making up stats now to make me look good. But yeah, whenever you have a triple bubble with 30 plus points and no turnovers, people are going to say, wait a minute, this guy's doing something we've never seen before. He's on very short lists of very great players to do all the things that he's doing basically every single night.

Biggest game of the year, Eastern Conference Finals. Everybody on earth knows that whoever wins this game is probably going to end up winning the series if the New York Knicks come in to Indiana and steal to After winning two in the garden, it's over It's gonna be a New York Knicks series the Knicks are going to the finals in the biggest game with Triple H there Yeah, with his pops back in the building bingo with fifth

exactly boy Jelly roll? Yeah. Timothy Chalme? Ben Stiller travel? He has his biggest night, triple double. So I'd say he's extremely talented. Let's go back to that definition post comma.

Stop me if I'm wrong on any of this, JJ. I will. You got a big ring. Has great public appeal. Well, I guess in New York, probably not, right? Yeah, no. In Madison Square Garden. Or Milwaukee.

Yeah, but is there anywhere other than those cities? Do places exist other than those cities? LA. Couple. Los Angeles, I guess that is a place that exists. Boston? How about Miami? Does our city exist or not?

It does. Indianapolis would be included in that. Sometimes people forget. Sometimes people tend to forget. So let's go to public appeal. Is this guy liked? Oh, let's go to one of his game winners from this playoff run series winner Yeah, I'd say he has some public appeal around Penn

Yeah, but Indianapolis isn't anywhere near as big as other cities are okay, so it's not a public place anymore It's not a public forum. He has public appeal. That's James Johnson hugging him saying I got you dog If anybody talks in the front row, I'm gonna say terrible things to them and they're gonna get mad at me instead of being mad at you I'll keep them distracted so he has public appeal right JJ that would be the second part of that agree now let's go to the third one there and can usually command a high salary that's a funny one that's a funny one to be included in yes true it's kind of a tray Hendrickricks conversation right now.

Yeah, which we will certainly get into. Average star, not really paid. Sure. Superstar going to command a high salary. Is Tyrese getting paid? I believe he's a max player, yeah. Oh, he's a max player. So we're just checking all the boxes of what Merriam-Webster says is a superstar, I would

say. So we just want to let Tyrese know that our tiny little program here, in this tiny little city, that does not have racist WNBA fans. Yeah, that's what WNBA says. That's what they said. Wow, that's crazy. That maybe would be good if it makes it to the finals,

as opposed to everybody saying it'd be terrible if this team makes it to the NBA finals on television. Okay, you don't think you're creating a potential, we want war with you type narrative. If your team wins, it's terrible for the entire league. Your fans are racist. Your guy is not a superstar. Your player is overrated. It's like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, we're hearing a lot.

But just know that Tyrese Halliburton, Pascoe Siakam, Nemhart, Nees Smith, TJ McConnell, and the boys have this city rally in this city ready. Last night was a great indicator of it. And Tyrese, you're our superstar. We're appreciative of you. Love you, Tyrese. We're appreciative of you.

I mean, New York, they're naming streets after every single player on the roster. In New York City, I mean, that's a very large city what they haven't won shit what do you do whoa in a long time this team has given them a lot of hope I will say watching Jalen Brunson live is outrageous very good he's able to score whenever he wants and it's like if he even gets an open look it's like back when Steph Curry was doing his thing if he just gets an open look it's like oh that's gonna fall like it's not it's not like he might miss this one, especially when he has that little mid-range

shit he does. Unbelievable. Three, if he has any room, it's going to fall. He is great to watch in person. Very legit. Very. Carl Anthony Tons, I think he's getting a little tired. He had that 20.4th quarter in game three.

He obviously had some big plays last night. Watching the amount of running, I'm like, hi, how is he? You're big big man Yeah, I don't know how you keep up with it to be on. No, I don't I like six-second plays I'm a big six seconds guy. Oh, he's not retired yet. Joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who is retired Played in the NBA for 13 years. Yeah, he's been around been there done that has a great shot says He doesn't run much anymore mad respect ladies. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson. Yay, you're rich!

We just had a breakdown of definition of superstar there, just to see what Merriam-Webster's thoughts were, and obviously we're riding the high with the Pacers getting a big win over the New York Knicks last night. What are your thoughts on the entire conversation? This Pacers team is a real deal, Q. This Pacers team is a real deal. Watching them live last night, that's a lot of running. I don't know how, I guess OKC does the same thing, but it's a lot of running fast. And as soon as the other team scores, as soon as the Knicks score, their entire bench is like ah, ah, ah.

It's like a, it's high tempo all the time. A lot of teams do this. Is this a new thing? And what are your thoughts on this Pacers team, Q? Man, I like what the Pacers are doing, man. They're doing what they're supposed to do, man. They seasoned the moment, and now they've got a chance to go to the NBA finals. As far as the superstar conversation, man, I think if you ask Tyrese himself,

we get like, as far as us in the media We getting too too big on labels. It doesn't really matter when you look at it. You said it Tyrese getting a max contract He's balling. He's making he's he's been on the all-star team. He was been on the Olympic team I think the real thing you only desire from a from a player standpoint Like you said, you got the money don't lie. We all want the money That's one of the top first thing want the money He got the max money and then you want the respect from your peers like when you get done Like the whole overrated thing that was a joke. That's a joke whatever

But I mean you at the end of the day when you get to playing I think all athletes want to have the respect But a peers because I mean the media that's gonna come and go because some people may like you may not like You but I'm talking about when you get down in the trenches and they got to go and hoop against you I know he has to have the respect to everybody to play against because look what he's doing Like you said a 30-point triple-double but with zero turnovers and the high usage he has how much he has the ball in his hand It's not like he's out here playing it safe. He's doing all type of stuff, no looks and everything else. So what he's doing is incredible. And I think when he gets done, his body of work will speak for itself.

Yeah, I appreciate you saying that and I agree. And Tyrese, I think he hears the noise because he's young. So obviously he has social media. He bans himself from social media during the series is though. I think that's a good play. I think that's a good play. think that's good play his dad will keep an eye on things but like the way he handles himself the way he is represented this city has been a beautiful thing he's what 24 yeah 24 25 or 6 whatever he is still young he's

very very young and I think we're all incredibly pumped for what the the future possibilities are here in Indiana at Okc, Indiana, I don't want to look ahead obviously We still have to win the series against the New York Knicks winning in Madison Square Garden would be bananas Okay, that would be spectacular if that was to take place if they went another one. Hey, that's okay We'll come back here to Indiana do our thing Hopefully and I have nothing but respect for that Nick's team the way they've been able to battle and play is insane and Carl Anthony he's so big Carl Anthony Towns is so big Q rich. He is I don't think I expected how

Like he's round. Yeah. Yeah, he's a he and he's they're running him a lot of hand gestures going on there What's that a lot of hand gestures going on there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying I think it's but he is well built. He is like a round guy like doccy stocky. That's good He's like a he's a stocky gentleman. So I'm very interested in his girth that's going on. It's just a lot of. Oh, I mean. That's your words, JJ. You pig. I'm just saying. Oh my god. Say what I'm saying.

We didn't have that as you say, JJ. We didn't have that as you say. Yeah, but he's probably well hung. I mean, come on. Yeah, I think he's good at hoops. Hey, wait, wait. We're talking about hoops, right? Yeah, what do you mean?

Yeah, he's very good. But what I'm saying is watching these guys live Wait, wait, wait. We're talking about who, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you read? From the rim. Yeah, he's very good. But what I'm saying is watching these guys live and seeing them in person, you always forget. Like watching on TV. You too, I assume. How tall are you? Six-six. That's what I'm saying. That's just like standard. So whenever you see how big Carl Anthony Towns was and how much he was running, I'm like, how does anybody keep up with his Pacers team for seven games?

It's like Pascoe Siakam. Obviously, he's gigantic. He can run all day. I think he can literally run all day Does OKC play that same style and how long has this been happening? How long has this been a style that teams play with? Man, I think since Golden State was able to show that they could win a championship You know I'm saying with the with the with the small ball lineup that that was you know pretty much Everybody tried to copy and paste so now you see a lot of fours that like one through four you got smaller guys And then you got one big guy that's a lot of four out one in or just flat out five out with pick and roll being Play and these guys I mean like you say you talking about cat He's used to this man in Minnesota his whole career when he was younger.

He's a guy who's always gotten up and down the court well and played on the outside and played inside. So, I mean, he's equipped for this. I mean, most of these guys, you look at a guy like Rudy Gobert who's really like 7'4 or whatever he is, the Wimby's, the 7'4, 7'5. The league is a strange place, man, because you say, I'm 6'6 and I go out there and I do not look big on the court I look average and regular size and then it's a difference when you walk into the real world but when you in the gym and you playing in the league and even in college just now everybody's huge man these guys are tall 7 footers 7'2 6'11 6'9 and it's like man like you look at a guy like McDaniels, he's like 6'9' out there on the court, and he doesn't look like it when he's out there running around with those guys. Moving, too. I mean, it is just, it's gassers. There's running gassers. I, uh,

that was my biggest takeaway, Lester, other than the fact that the arena was awesome, the Pacers are great, Tyrese is a dog, Siakam's a dog, like, everything about that. But whenever you just think about the sport that's being played in front of your eyes, it's like they're so gigantic and they're just running so much. I don't know how you guys do it. 82 game season. Physical.

Yeah, people are talking about, you know, like taking a break and what they call it? What was it? Load management. Load management or whatever. It's like, I bet you if I was in a league, which I never would be, but let's say I was born six foot seven and I had an absolute wet jumper.

Yeah, just a wet jumper. They had me running a lot. If I was given an opportunity probably to, hey, do you want to take tonight off? I think I would probably, day is you could go from the top to the bottom of the roster and it's more guys that could do a little Everything you've got so much talent that it's ever been in the history of the game like when we like, you know earlier generations You had guys like a Reggie Miller. He was just he was a shooter. He was a sniper That's what he's gonna be legendary for now. You got guys is like Stephvy is like the he's the end one ball handle king he's ai he's he's reggie miller he's a bunch of guys wrapped up in the one same thing when you look at a guy like pascal siakam he's like you know he's a wing guy but he's a post guy he doesn't miss mid ranges he'll dunk on you he rebounds he defends it's like these guys are so talented and so gifted and then like you said 16 611 win be 7 5 playing like a guard doing different things the level of talent and the abilities these these guys have

All in one player is never been seen before how many of these guys can do so much stuff That needs to be showcased more because on TV it just looks normal Yeah, you know like 6 6 just look like 5 11 whenever you watch on TV and whenever I go. You know, like 6'6 just looks like 5'11 whenever you watch it on TV. And whenever I go to a game I'm like, I forgot how fucking gigantic. Because they're walking right in front of me too. They're walking right in front of me and it's like, holy shit, I forgot that you are one of one. What did you want to say, Jay? QR, I have a question for you.

You obviously played 13 years. You've seen the game transition over time. As we talk about this, have you seen the training, whether it's the weight room, whether it's running, evolve over time? I know even in the NFL we're seeing obviously kids are in these programs starting young, so athletes are just getting bigger, stronger, and faster. Is the NBA similar or is that more about a skill like shot making? No, it's all in one. The skills and the shot make mean it's it's obvious like you we replicate what we see So now they've been able to see all of these different things and they able to put it all together

But the training has absolutely gone bonkers like these kids are getting trained at such a high level at a young age That's why they're able to do so many different things because they get in the gym and they try and try and train the difference between This generation our generation. We we didn't train nearly as much we went to parks We went to courts open gyms and we played all day long played against each other That was like our work that was that was more of the work we did we tried different things We figured different things out But now the skill level is so high because of the level of training they're getting they're getting training It's starting at six seven years old on up and they they training with they're getting training and starting at six, seven years old, on up.

And they training with, these guys grew up and they say, I got a guy, I got a trainer who's been training me for this long. And like they developed these skills and when you're growing in the gym at a young age and you're actually focused and honing in on putting in work on different things, they got no choice but to get better. And you're seeing that out on the court. I mean obviously, you know, the coaches and different things would rather some things be honed in but when you just look at these guys Individually and you look at the lip level of skill that they have and the different things and the tools they have It's incredible man When you see so many guys that could do so many different things when the earlier generations it was kind of focused on this guy can Do this this guy could do that and now these guys was putting all of this in

their own tool bags. I mean that goes into a much larger conversation about the state of the game and you know the skill of the game versus the quality like all that I mean there's just like it happens in football it happens in every sport certainly happens in the NBA it was an honor to watch everybody do their thing last night that was right in front of me. That was early Nice to see that was nice to see and he has such an abnormal Shot. Yeah, that thing's fallen though. Oh, yeah, and then his free throws to the way he shoots It's like he's fallen He's looking to assist every single time and then Ben Mather and got in in relief of Tyrese Tyrese got like extended minutes

It just chilling on the sideline. And it was like, you looked over, he had a heat pack on his back, had a little heat pack on his legs. And it's like every minute they steal with him on the bench, it's like good for the longterm whenever they go and run it. It's like, I love what they're doing over there. Now let's go to the West, shall we?

D-Buch, go ahead, pal. It's our big game, big must-win game for the Timberwolves coming up. That one-two punch kind of been inconsistent. Ant-Man last game, you know, didn't score a bunch, didn't get enough shots in my opinion and then Julius Randall has been very up and down when it comes to putting the ball in the bucket. What can they do there to get those two guys going against OKC? Obviously man I think Ant's shot output

kind of predicated is predicated on what everybody else is doing. Like if everybody else isn't playing well and nobody's posing any threats, that gives the OKC thought the more room to load up and to shadow him and to put more eyes on him everywhere he's going. That's what he's seeing when he's saying that he didn't feel like he had a bad game because he made the right plays.

Because you gotta understand as the ball handler, when you come down or you come off a screen or you're going to make a drive And when you look at the basket and look at the lane You see three to four different sets of eyes and you see long arms in the lane You see guys shading over and different things like that. That's trouble. You don't just drive into that So to his credit it was he was making them better the best plays But he still as the superstar that team as the guy he has to find a way

With the way they're playing them to get more shots up than to be more productive for his team as far as Julius Randall goes this was the reason that I was nervous in this series because He had been outstanding throughout the end of the second half of the season and going down the stretch in these playoffs the first two Seasons series he was he was out of control ball and whooping for them and He needed to stay at that level for them to have a chance in this series and that hasn't happened So for me that was gonna be the difference in the series if he could go and still be that guy averaging 24 Around six and six they will be in a different predicament because then Anthony Edwards will have more room to do his thing But with him not being able to do that and being up and down and the other players being inconsistent as well, they've been able to load up and give Anthony Edwards

all the problems in the world. Hey, that's why depth is such a like important thing this time of year, right? Because if one of your superstars isn't, you know, making everything like they had been for a while, somebody else can step up. That's just Pacers team. The Pacers team in a nutshell is like, we have different guys that will step up every single night. Ty Reese is the facilitator is going to make it all happen.

That's why he doesn't always have the most amount of points because he's running the offense. He's a coach on the court. He's point guard obviously who can also score obviously at 30 plus last night. But it's like we have a plethora of feels like Oklahoma City too deep. Right? Is that is that the right thing? And if you look at the Pacers, what did Sean say seventh or eighth lowest?

Yeah, I roll. Yeah, I assume Oklahoma City. I don't know what it is, but I would assume similar not the big markets Bank not to bring struck a whole bank about to be sitting at a shake door You can believe he'd better get about close to 400 million. He gonna be you talking about pay He got his bad, but I think it's, I think the number is like 379, 380 or something to be exact with this. Yeah. They bought not a drink. Could you imagine $380 million in Oklahoma city? Holy shit. You remember Matt Stafford got drafted number one overall, they gave him 60 million

or something like that before he even stepped foot into the NFL or Detroit. And I saw it to myself, like, 60 million at that point in Detroit. I think he could have bought the whole city. Yeah, definitely. That was right off after the recession. Yeah, tough times in Detroit. I remember he just sold it a couple of years ago and I saw the pictures. It was a badass. Was it a log was it a lot of no it was much nicer

it's not a lake I believe okay so depth matters Minnesota might not have as much okay see definitely does we the Pacers have a lot of depth. Watching the Knicks, I think Tibbs played like 10 guys last time or something like that. And on Sunday when they got to win, he played nine guys. I think that matters a lot. But I also think the person that's kind of directing the traffic is very important in basketball.

I know in some sports, I think we heard Biz talk about the hockey where he said coaching, yeah, it's a lot of reactionary stuff. Dump the puck, you react how you do that. Basketball, it feels like this stage, coaching very much matters. Go ahead, Con man. Yeah, Q Rich, it feels like Rick Carlisle

is kind of the elder statesman of the coaches left. He became top 10 in playoff wins last night with that victory and with them possibly going to the finals in the OKC and Timberwolves coaches being a little bit younger than him, feels like they have that advantage. How important is that for Rick Carlisle? And then kind of a separate question as well. Pat talked about James Johnson,

kind of the vibes he brings to the Pacers bench and locker room. How important is it to have that vet kind of OG like James Johnson who can kind of set the tone for everybody and is that someone Rick Carlisle uses to make sure his message is getting across in the locker room? Yeah man, Rick Carlisle has been a championship coach and a very good coach in his league for a long time now so I'm not surprised at all about what he the job he's been able to do

he's been coach of the year in his league. His team always have an identity and they, you know, they represent what he wants them to represent. And so I'm not surprised with the job he's doing at all. He's been doing this his way for a long time. And I think, I think it does work because he's, he's very connected with this Indiana team. He has extension from himself as far as Tyree Saliberton, who's a true point guard who checks in

and they see out of Idaho game So I think he's a huge deal for them as far as JJ man Yeah, I'm a firm believer in it did the teams need that that guy in the locker room It's a true veteran and he's also a true enforcer But I mean the thing about JJ is that you saying he got thrown in the game the other day He he got right in there score some buckets and did his thing He's not just some physical Intimidator or enforcer out there if you give him minutes He can actually still play and I'm sure he proved that on a daily basis the whole season long and practice

And he wouldn't have the voice in the place he has on that team if he wasn't that type of dude who's gonna go out There in practice he's in the struggle is he's in the fight with him He's going through the hard rigorous all of the stuff they got to do so he's boots on the ground but they all know at the same time that he got hands and everybody know it and he's not somebody that you really want to have problems with he like a black belt or something like he he known for being about that life so you know what I'm saying like everybody knows that and you don't earn that reputation you know what I'm saying without doing certain things and he's taking those steps He's taking those fines and people who know and are aware of that

And so, you know that that that come with a little badge when you when you do what you got to do he Last night the way he was able to direct this fans attention I don't know if you heard me tell the story earlier or not. This fan, front row, great shit talker, New York City shit talker. I mean, he was right behind us, so I got to hear it. Great persistence, good tone, good delivery, good emphasis, you know, on the side.

Good shit talker, clearly was a good shit talker. At Tyree, boom, boom, boom. And then just James out of nowhere, just, let me go ahead and take that attention right here, buddy. And then that guy was just talking shit down the bench to James for the rest of the game. And it's like, now Tyrese doesn't have to deal with this guy who's four feet behind him for the rest of the game.

It's like, even that little thing, I'm like, genius. That is such a good play. And then you talk about him getting on the court. I think he still had- Yeah, he still had his bracelet on. I think he had the bracelets on too. He gets out there, obviously does his thing. It's like, to your point, have to be I think he had the bracelets on too. He gets out there, obviously does his thing. It's like to your point,

have to be good at ball for anybody to respect you. That's number one in this entire thing, especially in the NBA. For the NFL, it's the same. If you bring a vet into the locker room and the guy stinks, the locker room's probably not gonna respect the guy. Even like, they might like him as a person,

probably not gonna respect the guy. Even like, you know, they might like him as a person, probably not gonna respect the guy. Even if the coaches are trying their best to make this guy be the veteran leader of the team, you know, giving game balls out and stuff to guys. Sure. You know? Usually it's a relationship with that player and that coach. Yes, that comes together. Yeah, and it's kinda like...

Half a pressure. Game ball. Yeah, that happened in our, it was tough. It was putting that guy in a bad spot. No, it's put him in a horrible spot. Yeah. But he had to just walk out there and say, yeah, here we go boys.

And we loved them as a guy, but it was certainly a situation where it was like, this ain't real. Okay. We need to maybe pick somebody else to do this with. I feel like the NBA is probably, all professional sports are probably the same way. The locker room knows immediately. You gotta be genuine. Yeah, and James does a lot of talking too.

He is, he is a chirper. Yeah, when he went in against the Cavs, we were kind of reminded about it yesterday. He went in against the Cavs and basically just set a screen on Max Shrews and just buried him immediately. Yeah, incredible. This Pacers team is my habit. All right, anyways, we will continue to follow This Eastern Conference finals and Western Conference finals until inevitably it's Indiana versus Oklahoma City

Which is good for the NBA certainly because we do we think it's a long series. Oh, yeah, if it's the other teams No, no, everybody's talking about business business business business business No, no, everybody's talking about business business business business business Seven games probably better than four or five without a yeah last year was five and it stunk unless you were Celtics Yeah, so I think I think that's that's what we should be looking for now granted. That's the ball is good business That's that's the good business whoever's playing the good basketball Bingo. Yes, that is Sports that is sports now granted I can see how New York involved in anything is good for ratings because there's so many people.

So many people over there. That is certainly a valid conversation. But like six, seven games, a lot better than four or five games. If we're just talking business, business, business, business all the time, which is what everybody seems to be. It's not bad business. If the Paces are in this, it's like what if they're the best team? It's bad business for the best team to be in the finals. That seems like a dumb thing

Nonetheless, we'll continue fall this offseason though Q is about to be a We've never heard go ahead Ty yeah Q We had Shams on the show yesterday and he said I quote this might be the most craziest offseason ever His words not ours, correct. Now when you take that into account, do you agree with that? Do you think we're going to see a bunch of players changing teams that kind of changes like the dynamic of the NBA as a whole? Obviously some of these teams like the Pacers and the Thunder probably aren't going to look a whole lot different, but there is, you know, a possibility that KD is on a new team and Giannis is on

a new team and all these different superstars Do you think that's gonna happen this season? Are we gonna see a lot of household names change teams? I don't know about how many but I do know you normally when you have that type of seismic activity with a Yannis or KD potentially moving there's always moves made after that So, I mean, you know when those type of names are looming going into the summer you can expect that this is like gonna be a big summer I mean Shams is paid to know way more than I do so maybe he knows some other things that might be on the brink of happening that I don't know but yeah I mean I'm excited for it man I'm super excited to just see and

watch everything that's gonna happen and see how things unfold and how it play out cuz I mean I definitely think when you got, when it's potentially a KD and a Yanis moving, it's no telling what else could happen. And on the heels of a KD, I mean, an AD for Luca Trey. So right now, if anything could happen. Everybody's still trying to jockey and position themselves after that Luca and AD Trey. So I definitely believe it's going to be

some stuff going on this summer. You're great for basketball, Q Rich. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Enjoy your day. All right, fellas, appreciate y'all. Hey, Pacers in five or how's this thing go? Ah, I don't know, man. I think, I definitely think they going,

you are going to throw the kitchen sink at them. I don't think they just going to lay down. I think they could get they're gonna move you are gonna throw the kitchen sink at him I don't think they just gonna lay down I think they could get this one in the garden and then I think Indiana comes back and does this thing I don't think it goes past game six because if it goes past game six the Knicks gonna win I don't think it's gonna go down Now you better get the kitchen sink from the Knicks in the garden and then when they come back the Pacers got a little kitchen sink at them and try and put them down. Yeah, I don't think I helped the entire situation over there Mash square garden. I don't think either What you say there JJ I thought you were talking about the next series I thought you were talking about no no no come on come on

What do you do? We don't look towards the future. There's a lot of looking towards the future There is a lot of looking towards the future. There is a lot of looking towards the future, especially in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So let's talk about it. What do you know, Jage? Who's gonna be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers? I mean, I don't have any inside information.

I would assume the same as everybody else. It'll most likely be Aaron Rodgers. Your head is six foot six size. Just kicked that ear piece out of your left ear there. Said, see you later. You think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the quarterback? Are you hearing anything from the inside sources? No, I'm not I'm literally not but I would assume that seems to be the way that all directions are pointing

Let's go to one half of the hammer dad Cowboys currently residing in hammer AP tone tone any Pittsburgh Steelers insider questions for JJ walk as he certainly has information This is gonna be like an AJ Hawk type scenario, but let's see how he dances Yeah, I almost regret regret asking this because it has been so quiet And I don't want people to talk about it But there is still the the contract looming out there jay just got our sorry TJ has got one year left on his contract Is there is there any update on that situation? You don't need to regret anything. It's okay. All right I mean, it's it's a television show as far

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Now this is a Cleveland move to pay top money, maybe over money for their pillar players. If they think they're a pillar player or know they're a pillar player, this has been Haslam's move. 40 million dollars for Miles Garrett. Now, we know you probably wouldn't have retired if you knew that 40 million dollars a year was possible

for the defensive end position So I will speak that for you But everybody else like I paid this offseason huge numbers teach down there towards the bottom of The money let alone the guaranteed money left on contracts Trey Hendrickson down there at the bottom as well Trey Hendrickson stories much louder than TJ story because Trey Hendrickson has come out and said like hey You've kicked the can down the road three years now, basically with me, either pay me or trade me is kind of his messaging at Super Bowl. Since then, there's still been no conversation. Ownership of the Bengals said, sometimes some of these players just need to be happy with what they

got. And Trey Hendrickson says, what are we talking about? Excuse me? I'm literally the second. So whenever you see this market happening, and then obviously you have family involved in this type of situation and it's brewing, and then you see what's happening with then obviously you have family involved in this type of situation is brewing and then you see What's happening with Trey Hendricks and a man who I assume you know and get along with well What are your thoughts on it? And how do you think it all ends up kind of settling out? I've long been a big believer that Ownership and front offices obviously treat this like a business, but they do not like it when the players Flip the script on them and treat it like a business back

like it when the players flip the script on him and treat it like a business back. Taking care of your guys earlier does a few things for you. Number one, it gets them locked in at a lower price in the long run. I mean you look at what prices are doing every single year, you get them locked in a lower price. Number two, you're keeping them happy because even now, let's say look at Trey Hendrickson's situation. Let's say they pay him now. Now there's all this resentment, there's all this animosity, and yeah, $40 million or whatever it is cures a whole lot of that, and he's going to act like everything is great and everything is wonderful. But you just went through a whole bunch of time where there was some disrespect, where

there's some hurt feelings, and now you're going to go back into a building, act like everything's okay. If you take care of things early, especially when players want to take care of things earlier and say that they'll take less money to take care of things earlier because it sets themselves up long term financially, do that. Because if you don't do that, that's when the problems start to arise and now all of a sudden you say, hey, we have to kick this can down the road because of the way everything's working out. You kick the can down the road, the can gets a whole lot bigger. And then the player says, well, the can's whole lot bigger And then the player says well the cans a lot bigger now fill it up And you don't want to fill it up because you say well we have to pay all these other guys we have to take care

Of these other things it's like well I wanted to fill the can way back down here when it was a little soup can now we got ourselves a garbage pail Hey, that's on you. Hey, that's on The situation the amount of risk you know involved in it all because if you're willing to take less earlier There's a reason you're willing to take less earlier There's a reasonable intake less because it's setting you up for comfort There's something else coming alongside of it But if you're gonna make me take the risk of playing this entire thing potentially ending my career potentially getting an injury Potentially whatever the case is and then that means the other thing that the comfort has been very low

So there is a fee for the comfort here Business that is really how business goes. Exactly. And we've seen Trey say it publicly, the team says that they're gonna talk to you early in the year, we're gonna get this thing done. We just, just let us get through this season and then we'll make sure we take care of it early.

And then you come early in the off season and you say, hey, let's take care of this. We said we were gonna do this early. You said we was gonna hold these, all of a sudden it's crickets. All of a sudden it's silence. Or it's, hey, we have to get through the combine. Hey hey we have to get through the combine hey we have to get through free agency it's like whoa whoa whoa we talked about last year you said if we

kick the can down the road we were gonna take care of it we're not taking care of it yeah the resentment's a real deal that's just like Myles Garrett everybody was like Myles Garrett said all those things about wanting to win and not just being a highly paid player or whatever and then they're like well 40 million can make up for it it's like it can you know I think obviously 40 million having sat in sheets in a massive log cabin probably over there in Cleveland can certainly help out but inevitably he's gonna have to lay his head down at night whenever things aren't going well and be like oh is this the right decision you know we saw Tyreek

down in Miami Tyreek takes a massive payday from the Miami Dolphins as opposed to potentially less money in Kansas City Tyreek certainly worthy of the money I'm not he wasn't, but there came a point now where he's like, I would like to win some games to get back in meaningful football. So there's always a fine balance in your decision making, but anytime people sacrifice comfort and make people risk, there's going to be a fee that comes alongside of that. That's why what the Philadelphia Eagles did with Saquon. Saquon Barkley this year, they just re-upped them out of nowhere. That came out of nowhere for us. We got a text literally like, hey, Saquon might be getting a new deal. And I'm like, Saquon Barkley this year, they just re-upped him out of nowhere. That came out of nowhere for us. We got a text literally like, hey, Sequon might be getting a new deal.

And I'm like, Sequon, didn't he have like two years, three years left on his deal? They're like, yeah, they just want to kind of compensate him for what he did for the team early and let him know. It's like you tell the whole locker room, like, hey, if you do the right shit here and you perform for us, we're going to pay you. You have Sequon locked in now for three years, whatever, happy that he got paid big in the long run. And then you you also give a message to your fan base like, hey, we we invest in the people that do good shit here. It's like it's such a good thing to do.

It's also a conversation that we've seen start to bubble up a little bit about cash rich ownership versus cash poor ownership and who has the ability to pay big money up front and lay it out over void years on the back end versus other owners who can't afford to put that money in escrow at the moment right now. That's a conversation I know that they're seeing at the league level that they're trying to start to find a solution to because there's teams

and there's ownership that has the ability to do some incredible things from a contract standpoint that other teams literally can't do. You had to know a little head too, like it's bigger than just that player. That message to the locker room. That's a big deal, especially for a guy like Trey Henderson, who has been everything not only on the field, but off the field as far as character.

He's done everything right. You talked about Saquon Buffalo did it with Josh Allen, giving him a brand new deal. But I think three years, two or three years left on his deal. And it just says, hey, you do the right things. We're going to take care of you. Continue to do it. And you'll fall in line. Phillyilly not only Saquon they sign AJ Devante I think my lot of Zach Bonn got a new deal

Zach Bonn got rewarded for his year so like hey you sure honey and yeah to JJ's point take care of it early yeah two years down the line it's gonna be a completely different ballgame. It's a perfect point you're sending a message to the locker room if you handle your business if you do job, we will take care of you. I look to Texans with Nikko Collins. His deal right now looks like one of the best deals in football because they took care of him early. He played well, they saw what he was doing, they took care of him early. Now they take care of Derrick Stingley early. Next year they're going to have to worry about C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson. They'll take care of them. It's just one

of those things where if you show the locker room, do things the right way, we'll pay you, all of a sudden your culture handles itself. Because nobody in the locker room's in a corner talking about, I wonder if they're going to pay him, are they not going to pay him? Everybody's just like, oh wow, this place treats us good. We should treat them good in return. What is the big issue trying to deem who's worthy of being a pillar person?

Because you're paying your pillars. Because whenever you lock into those big deals, it's like, hey, now we've got to manage this contract over the next four years. Even if it's less than what it would have been in two years from now, it's still a big contract that we just gave to somebody two to three years ahead of schedule.

Because everything operates on schedules. This is where we think the salary cap's going to be. This is where we are, this is where we're going to be, this is what the contracts are. So just picking the right people, I guess, is the fear, is what they say, why don't? Yeah, I mean, the fear is obviously, it's whether it's injury, whether it's play decreasing,

whether it's off the field issues, or you give a guy money and all of a sudden he stops working as hard, or whatever it may be. Oh, fat pockets. It might be those, but again, we're paying these guys no matter what. Guys are getting paid across this league, whether it's with your team, whether it's someone else,

at some point you're paying the piper. You can point to a handful of deals that didn't work out Obviously where the guy got big money and you had I mean Albert Haynes Always goes back to but no it doesn't like or goes back to one guy Now goes back to one guy. He plays quarterback. Yeah, you know, he did play quarterback Very good at one point in the land when you were playing. Yeah when you all quarterback. Yeah, you know, he did play quarterback very good at one point in the land when you were playing Yeah, when you all yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know that'll be considered the deal that yeah. No can't do no 230 that's the thing though. You got it Not only pay for what that player has done, but what you project them to do

So that's why when you get players Especially once you start getting around that 30 mark a lot of these people who just crunch numbers and they might not necessarily know ball or know your work ethic or know your off season and how you train all these different things, they make those decisions like, hey, he's at this point, let somebody else pay him or overpay him. And you gotta be in a position where you gotta, and if you're wrong, which it does happen,

you know, you're gonna be asked, it's gonna be there to cash. Well, and even like the message to your own locker room, but like also a message to the league. Like if you're a free agent and you're gonna be asked gonna be there to cash Well, and even like the message to your own locker room but like also a message to the league like if you're a free agent and you're deciding between Philadelphia and Cincinnati and you're thinking about hey, which team is gonna reward me when I go there and play super well You're not gonna think the Cincinnati Bengals because of what has happened and even for like AJ Brown AJ Brown gets traded to Philly they pay him a bunch of money and then they give them an extension Devante Smith They pay before like all those you know top teams that are competing chiefs Eagles Lions like those three teams pay guys before

Damn near anybody else. Yeah, and they're doing well, you know, it feels like you can get into a rhythm They paid Patrick Mahomes massive deal early. They can play with that contract I'll see Travis Kelsey is gonna it's like all the teams that are good are seemingly ahead of schedule. They kind of know what's going on. They can forecast what's gonna happen. All the people that are just trying to kind of hang on, seems like it doesn't always work out. Yeah, quarterback.

Yeah, you gotta have a quarterback. Yeah, that's it. It all starts there. But, like, I mean, we're looking at the Bengals right now with the situations that they're in, like, they missed the playoffs. Like, you have one of the best quarterbacks in the entire NFL.

That's the gold ticket. That's the entire NFL. That's the gold ticket That's the golden goose That's the asset that you need to make everything else fall into place They just weren't able to make everything else fall into place yet Do you have any questions for JJ watt? All you got to do is head over to X and use the hashtag ask J Yeah, hashtag ask J and that actual picture of JJ watt Will be a part of answering your question.

Now, if you make it good, there's a better chance it's going to make the program. Shitty questions don't get asked, but there's no such thing as a bad question. There are certainly dumb ones, though. And you should know that. JJ, in your opinion with the Trey Hendricks situation, I don't think he really is like this as a person, but do you think it would service him a little bit better if he was maybe like a little bit more of a prick because he's been so amicable the whole time. I said it a couple of weeks ago, like it's kind of the baseball squeaks,

glory situation where he basically said like, Hey, listen, if you guys rip on me 16 or 17 more times, like I'm out of here, I'm done doing this. Like, and again, he's a God fearing man. We've had him on like it doesn't seem like that's really his MO But you think that's part of it to the ownership's like well Like we can kind of push this guy around because everything we've done like he's kind of been okay with it His stance hasn't changed at all. I mean you also have to look at it a little bit like the Tyrese Albert situation small market He's been playing phenomenal football for years. I mean led the league in Saxon, those things, but he doesn't have the national star power that some of these other guys have from bigger markets, bigger cities, or

more talkative, boisterous personalities, things like that. So then, yeah, like you said, it almost puts you back in that little box where the guy, the ownership can say, well, he's not gonna make a stink about it, why wouldn't we keep doing that? I think that's probably part of the reason that he's been talking as much as he has lately and trying to lay it out It's such a hard spot as a player because I fully understand Fans are sitting there like you're complaining when they're offering you 25 million dollars You're complaining when they're offering you 30 million dollars. How could you ever complain about that? I'm gonna we get it. We understand like yes, it's insane

This is all nice, but it's business, that's crazy. We understand. Like yes, it's insane. It is. This is all nothing. But it's business and that's how this whole thing works. So Trey wants to sit there and he wants to lay everything out for the fans. He wants to say, this is exactly what they told me that they would do and they have now not followed through with that. So what do you expect me to do? I'm coming here just to let you know what I'm going through so you don't think I'm

some selfish bastard trying to get my money. Like I'm just trying to follow through with what they told me they would do. But then you go out and say that and now people are like look at this guy. This guy. This guy. You're lucky to play football for a Bengals. And we also don't want to play football for a Bengals. We don't want our guys to give cookie cutter answers. We don't want our guys to just give the standard press conference lines. But when they do go up there and they tell you

exactly what's going on and they say exactly what's happening behind the scenes, all of a sudden we don't like what we hear and this guy's a jerk. And he's not like, hello again. This guy's an asshole. Distraction, I don't like his negative attitude. They're not gonna win with that.

So I hear it, I understand it, it's frustrating, man. Yeah, you were a man that was a hero in a city and then inevitably had to head to another team. I couldn't even imagine what that was like for you, obviously moving from Houston over there to Phoenix. Obviously your golf game got better over there in Arizona. Oh, I play with those hockey sticks. Our two will be on the other side. We'll be joined by many. Nobody will be as big as JJ Wall. What's better than a well marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart

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Sports, sports, sports! Unbelievable. I had a real shit show right there. Dropped my phone, my earpiece fell out, and I missed the sports. I can't get that down. Ladies and gentlemen real shit show right there. Oh my earpiece fell out. Yeah, this is sports I can't get them. I can't get that down. Ladies and gentlemen, it's JJ why You look amazing you look like you're in incredible shape still lifting still working out. Yeah still not fully retired No fully retired. Oh

Seat kick ticker down there. JJ Watt is fully retired. Still lifting though? Still getting after it? Yeah, not 100% sure why or what for. Just can't give it up. Old dog, new tricks. What are you doing? What type of workouts are we maybe doing?

Pilates to stretch out as we get older? Fencing. Yeah, what's that? Probably should do pilates. Oh yeah, cause you and AQ Shipley have a AQ225 off with Tim Tebow. I had a good run where I was ready for that and I didn't need to ramp it back up. Yeah, we're gonna do it in the summer when there's nothing

Yeah, just baseball when did you think it was gonna be you thought I was gonna be doing the playoffs NBA and NHL play Oh, definitely not when the Pacers are in it, of course. Thank you. Yeah, that's what we're talking about You're kind of coming back around on this whole thing. Yeah a little bit here and there squatting still you get under the bar Yep, you did yesterday. But did both yesterday. Yesterday was a good day. How much did you squat yesterday? 465 for three. It's a couple of maintenance cents. Do you have one of those like super padded bars?

No. I mean, come on, guy. What is this? Fifth grade? That's what Whitworth does. Are you old school? Oh, you're talking about these guys with the safeties? Yeah. That's great stuff. Thought we were getting there. Thought we were getting there. Oh! Guys are still pulling white on our back. these guys with the safety, yeah, it's great stuff. Guys are still pulling white on our back. Just distribute a little differently.

I can put 700 on that today. Bet. Yeah. You think you're really good? I mean, I score, yeah. The safety bar with the handles. Yeah. I mean.

What would you do now with a metal bar? You did four, six, five, four, three. I don't know what the math is, 600? I could probably, like comfortably if I was saying what I could, I'd probably say 505, 525. Just walking around as a human. Comfortably. He's just a dad and a husband right now.

That's right. And a TV person. Yeah, I can squat 500 pounds. Actually, I'm going to do that right now. I was at a gym yesterday, it was a public gym. And I needed to- What? You can't be doing that. Yeah, it's okay. It was quiet It's middle of the day You got to know your times but I was asking for a spot and

Because I needed it on my top set and this guy came over and spotted me and after the set he goes Hey, I just want to let you know. I was your brother's stunt double on the old El Paso commercials You guys were awesome. It was a lot of fun In Wisconsin, it was just a local gym. I love that they. Where was this? This was in Wisconsin? Yeah, it was in Wisconsin. It was just at a local gym. I love that they casted it. Hey, we need a stunt double. We need it to be a basic, bland looking white. Need to go to Wisconsin to find another watt looking lad.

They all know what you obviously. And immediately afterwards, do they say, of course you're squatting 465 pounds on a Tuesday in the off season as a retired football player? Is that what they say to you? It's, there's looks. I mean, there's literally four people in there. Like you gotta know your times. I can't go in there at 9 a.m.

I can't go in there at 5 p.m. But noon to three is a good window for me. Although I'm screwed now, I guess. Yeah, who runs the office? Where is this gym? Yeah, who runs the office? This is great. No, I don't, nobody.

I don't do music. People have their AirPods in, but I don't do music. I don't do music. Does the gym do music? You're wrong. I guess now that I for 65 for three. I'm back now that I think about they do have like something soft play It's not like it's not like oh, yeah rock Higher love no raw dog in it straight raw. Yeah, it's I could probably get a couple more pounds if I put on some good music Yeah, walk a flock. I was down in Tampa Bay the other night.

Stole a show. I heard he was coming. Heard he was coming. And I just did a Waka Flocka's Greatest Hits on the bus beforehand. Turn that up. Yeah. Are you kidding me? The world needs a Waka Flocka back in this world. He every song you knew what you're getting when you talk about somebody

knowing who they are and knowing what's coming whenever his name was attached to it It's like if walk a flock is on a song Titus O'Neill. Yeah, he's on a dating show 21 women Him Carlos Boozer and Tyson Beckford living in a house dating show It's coming on Bravo. Yeah, because he's like the mayor of Tampa Like legitimately knows everybody down there obviously legend in the WWE also a Q dog has the entire arena barking alongside of him every single night that he is mentioned yeah he shows up looks unbelievable geez he looks so good he goes like you know I'm sick with her whatever and I'm

like he said I think you're promoting my show tonight I was like oh what's your show I had no idea what it was and he said dating show Bravo 21 women looking for you guys 21 women all living in the same house. Yeah. That sounds a little less like a dating show, a little more like something else going on there. Look at this crew. I don't know how he's going to catch footballs, that guy.

I do. You think he's going to do a great job? I think so too. It's off season, he's refreshing a mind. Let people be who they are. That's a 90 year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler right there. Good luck tidies in the boozer and back for no final love He'll be on bravo. I think he what? Hopefully they win. I think they oh in finding love. Yeah, that's talk stable lovers of love

How do they lose at boss conor at ty schmidt? I think of those rap shows you can't lose Oh, yeah, it's not a doubt. Maybe yeah, I think you shows you can't lose. Oh yeah, without a doubt. The clap maybe? Yeah, I think you can certainly lose. There's a few ways to lose in that. Yeah. I wonder if it's going to be full on. A lot of ways to win. Yeah. A lot of ways to lose.

I wonder if they're going to be flipping tables and stuff. They'll be flipping something. Were you? So you were a... I don't know how this is going to transition this way. I don't know what's... Were you ever asked to be like the batch I don't know your question. No, it is a good question No, I was not because there for a while you were the cock of the walk. Remember he was on everything

Yeah, you're on you're on everything correct You've actually talked about this with other people getting offered so much money to do such a little work You feel obligated to say yes to it And then all of a sudden six months later when everything comes out, everybody's saying, this guy's ab-sick of this guy. It's like, well, I didn't know this was all going to be at the same time, and the amount of money I was getting paid to do nothing, no work, I had to say yes to. You've actually talked about that being a part of your life, but that was a part of

your life. Were you offered movies? Were you offered any reality shows? Were you offered any of those things? Yeah, yeah, a little bit of everything. And New Girl? Yeah, New Girl. I loved it. It was great. Yeah, a little bit of all that stuff, everything. A new girl? Yeah, new girl. Yeah. It was great. Yeah a little bit of all that stuff but like

you said it's to it was more about finding your way. I had to go through it all, I had to find my way, I had to understand, I had to go through a lot of hate and shit. I got to look back at things and I that I would do much differently if I could do them again but that's part of figuring it out and that's everybody that goes through it you're fortunate enough to have to figure it out because you got to and I'm sure you've had very similar things as you go through this entire thing. Oh yes, yeah, yeah.

The only way you learn is to go through it. Yeah. And then you either quit or you just keep going. And it still gets hard. I mean, still today, somebody will slap an offer down in front of you and you'll be like, man, that's a shitload of money. I mean, I've turned down, like, turned down

very, very, very significant amounts of money because I Didn't agree with what millions? Multi multiple millions for certain things that I I just I couldn't do it couldn't couldn't agree That's gross. Yeah, that is gross. It is very difficult I've never been on the JJ watt level of things obviously, but somebody will put something in front of you I mean it happened during happened during COVID a lot. Yeah. Hey, here's a fucking coin.

Yes. Here's $2 million. Basically, what do I have to do? You just got to basically promote it for a couple of months or whatever. Don't worry about it, it's not real. No, they never said that. I know.

They said, we'll handle everything else basically. Here's $2 million. And I'm looking around and like a lot of people are Doing it. I'm like this seems to the PMP loan. Yes. Yeah This seems to start to get in that pharmaceutical world there's a lot going on there. Oh, I know what you're talking about Billy Gardell listen Billy Gardell chains a lot hit me up was epic. What up? That's a guy looking for an easy paycheck joining us now live from an African, Ohio

He's a college football national champion a Super Bowl champion a man that used to say click clack. Yeah It's great to see him Big back. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. Hawk tone saying, Hey, listen, I was epic. You want to show God transforming. I'll be your I'll be your hawker. But your uncle Barry Barry. There it is. I didn't think I didn't think I was epic.

Like initially when Jade said he turned on millions to do something with the pharmaceutical. It was my first guess Yeah, I don't think I think we all know what it was. Yeah Jade's and I are getting the same offers AJ. I was playing my strengths. Okay. He said hey I'm a frumpy looking guy on TV Billy Gardell a little bit bigger than me same city same town same accent So I'm trying to figure out if I can actually say what it was or not. We know what it was No, you don't No, that's not what it was. We all know what it was. It was new genetics and you turn that down you in the big hurt

Yeah, frank frank said i'll take that off. JJ. What what is it? Come on, man? I don't know what's this What's it what's the rhyme with j Jade? We can always just dump it too. Yeah, we'll dump it. Yeah, totally. Yeah, we'll dump it. I don't think it rhymes with aeroids. No. It rhymes with barfans.

Huh? Barfans. Barfans. I mean, you can get it from that. Narcan? Yeah. Oh, you're trying to save people from overdoses? I think that would have been okay.

It was a back and forth thing. What? You like overdoses? Yeah. Like it was like... What the okay. It was a hefty back and forth there where you're like... When I say you feel bad taking the money I assume too. Yeah you're taking money because people are overdosed. I mean this... That would have been a very... I might be... We just did a good commercial for Narcans. You're Yeah, you're welcome. Send the $3 million now. No, but it is weird,

because you feel weird taking the money. Yeah, like I'm like, I don't know. It's an emergency. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand. I understand completely. Man, you are a fool. Why do you? I know, but like those are, you know.

Yes, that would be a tough thing to find out. That's why, yeah, like you have to have those conversations with yourself. That's more like an initiative as opposed to like a paid promotion. Yeah, I don't know. They're going to see something worse. Yeah.

I thought it was... They're going to overdose whether you do it or not, Jage. They're still going to overdose. True. Yeah, but if you give them a solution for the overdose, maybe there's more overdoses because now you have an answer to it. I think they know that solution is there already. Well, and you can hope that somebody's around the person.

Why are you getting a commercial then? That has to be... Why do a commercial? Well, why do a commercial? 3 million bucks. Yeah, that is why. Listen, now I'm pissed. Now I'm down 3 million. Send it. Send it. I will accept it. Burleys back up. Yeah. Real quiet when we started dominating the whole world. You think we paid attention? That was, we did not know we got quiet. Just to let you know that. To be clear, found out you got up today. Yeah. Congratulations.

Congratulations. We're very happy for you. So you guys are back in the Premier League. Yeah, it's literally one of the greatest seasons of all time. Our guys are incredible. 100 points, only gave up, I think, 14 goals the entire season. Involved time. Our guys are incredible. 100 points. Only gave up, I think, 14 goals the entire season. Of all time. It's unbelievable. We talk about financial stuff, you know, coming and going.

This is good news. You guys are back in the Premier League, right? As an owner of an English soccer team? Yes. Very good. Obviously, extremely expensive to try and stay up and try and do everything. But yes, being in the Premier League is... Do we have a chance in the Premier League or are we going to do this dance? We're in the Premier League is do we have a chance in a Premier League or are we gonna we're gonna do this dance now they're bringing in we're all though you should hear the point you got Christian Ronaldo coming to the team I don't think so but I do like to keep our transfer plans under wraps so sure you never know it's a certain about Lou again I mean coming to the end of that Miami run you just never know well Burnley is not a name I think

it's being talked about for Lou or for Christiano Ronaldo Maybe they should and just keep things under wraps like those teams that fly under the radar and then all of a sudden We're in the Premier League now. Yes, Lou and Ronaldo play together for the first time ever Oh my god for the Clarence they were thinking about that for the FIFA World Cup or whatever It didn't that true that is on the table Christiano is gonna play for a team in that Club World Cup We just don't know who it is. I've touched that trophy. It's a real deal. Yeah, it is the real deal this trophy It's almost also for how much money for the winner hundred million dollars Cristiano free agent right now So if he wants to play on concave at TST, I'd like to say, you know, come on down

Oh, yeah next week TST down in Cary, North Carolina Christiana Ronaldo. You have a team concave We are paying a little bit of money too So don't think it's just a charity opportunity here. We need you to play hard to Christiana We need you to know that this matters and more people are gonna see this than what they've been seeing in America Yeah in the world correct in America, so we need you to go ahead and score Are you guys down on this year? Oh no. Yeah, I remember you are you guy Are you guys down on this year? Uh, no. Yeah, I remember he killed that guy.

Are you? Who was in the lobby. Yeah, we're down. Are you? Concava's down there. Yeah, who's down there? Concava is down there. Oh, oh, oh, Concava.

Oh, oh, oh, Concava. Well, I am suffering from an injury right here. You see it. I'm still suffering. Oh, no. Yeah, from a brutal attack from going through a few weeks back in st. Louis So I haven't been able to train as much because of this So I am worried about my amount of minutes that I'm gonna get down there, but I want to let you know our roster

That's what I heard last year. Well, we didn't really know anything about it I made it to the quarterfinals first year. We from us. How'd you guys do against Burnley? Oh yeah, JJ played the whole game and we beat their ass. I remember. I remember. Do you remember that? I do remember. You and Zack Knight going at it in the back as if two Godzilla's are battling on a soccer

pitch might have been the biggest, most amount of meat bopping on a soccer pitch in the history. No doubt. You and Zack. No doubt Night will be back You're not playing down in my what is Burnley going down? No, we're not The Premier League focus locked in well concave is gonna get there someday especially with this roster we have this year Yeah, look out who we got

there someday especially with this roster we have this year yeah look out who we got rosters were supposed to be revealed today I believe we did get a graphic I have no idea if it was uploaded yeah cuz I did not forward it I believe it got sent to Gumpi who is obviously coach one of the coaches in the team he had two yellow cards last year I know he's not gonna get allowed on the sideline yeah kidding me hey coach it's a red card do we have to play Donovan no, no you just get sent packing okay It's sent packing Would have been surprised Might have been a mutual there

Yeah, and also it's a lot of time and carry it's a lot of time in Kerry. It's a lot of time in Kerry, Carolina. Beautiful place, beautiful people. If we're being frank. Yeah, but teams couldn't survive if you weren't. Yeah. Like it got to the one game a day thing. That was really what extended the stay. Yeah, true.

That was really what extended the stay. Your team was nowhere near that. Practice has extended the stay, too. Your team was nowhere near that. Practice. Your team was nowhere near it. Our women's team was. Our women's team was ready to,. Your team was nowhere near that. Your team was nowhere near that. Our women's team was. Our women's team was ready to...we were making a run.

And then what? Then all hell broke loose. They were in the final eight. So were we. I cannot wait to get down to carry North Carolina next week as we were last year. I don't know about my minutes. bad injury age, bad injury on my arm. Well, that's an upper body though. You can, you can still take a few nice shots. So you take a few cuts at it.

Yeah. But remember this is connected. It is connected. It is. I haven't been able to do this and now, you know, there's a lot of- PK, maybe you're the designated PK guy. No, cause we got- That's why you boot one and do the stratosphere last year. Yeah. Well, what I realized when I was taking those free kicks and kicking one out of the stadium which is how my soccer career potentially ended ripping a hip flexor kicking a free kick out of the stadium out of the camera shot maybe out of any human eye shot. It was a boot. Might be the way to go out to be clear.

Now I'm gonna play if I can. I'm gonna play if I can this upcoming week but what I realized I was doing there I was taking a free kick out of meat You know out of meats kind of like that guy actually should be kicking that ball or maybe Derek with the way He was hitting the ball Gordo Gerson. Yeah red boots I don't think Gordo or red boots will be taking any free kicks, but you never know we're talking about the meat here So me blasting one out of the stadium potentially You don't know who meat is? Meat beats your team's ass

You should maybe sign Meat to Burnley Hey, why don't you yeah, he gave you one of these hey and you did a Woooo! Sending you for a hot dog I'm a big guy, I'm not an idiot, you know, I like to get out of the way Well, he took you on a walk, bud And you, like a dog You should sign him the Burnley actually I

Said all of our transfers are just me. You should talk to me. We got somebody who talked to me text Tyler See if he'll do it from dude. Perfect right now JJ said he's actually lead scout this year. Well, that's good news I said he'll do great at it First time some sports TST next week Our roster will be revealed at some point. AJ's on it? AJ Hawk is Vibes Consultant. Wow. And our show will be there in Cary, North Carolina,

which I think you can get tickets to watch the tournament and then you can come hang with us. It's a good setup for us, but not a good setup for like audience. You remember? Cause there's like a hill and the sun. Yeah, it's hot. Very very bright So we'll be live from Kerry, North Carolina down to soccer tournament fun time fun atmosphere fun tournament I think they do a great job the uh facilities beautiful. I mean, it's it's a great gorgeous area down there for a long time

though down there for a long time we'll have our show down there for two days and Hopefully it'll be a blast. Speaking of a blast, last night the Indiana Pacers moved to 3-1 against the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals. It was a celebratory evening for everybody in Indiana, except for those Knicks fans that traveled out here to watch their team play in the Eastern Conference Finals. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is one of those men. He joined us yesterday. What we learned is...

Smooth. Yeah. Got a men. He joined us yesterday. What we learned is... Smooth. Yeah. Got a good jumper. Yeah. Six points a game in high school. You know, if you see somebody, ah, splash by the perfect rotation, elbow tight, forehead to hoop.

I mean, just absolutely perfect fundamentals. Six points a game, that's playing. Oh yeah. You know, if somebody averages like one and a half, one point, two points a game, that's playing. Oh yeah. You know somebody averages like one and a half, one point two points a game, something like that. They're coming in garbage time, they're taking a seat. Six points a game is we're getting some minutes. Oh yeah. We're getting some minutes out here. Now we're not getting the rock in every situation, but we're fucking bopping the wood. Oh yeah. We're bopping the wood on defensive side. If we're in the corner and they need one,

bang we're knocking it down. That's this man, out of Freehold Township High School. Ladies and gentlemen, Emmy Award winner, Peter Schrags. Schrags, did you consider spell checking that tweet before you fired it out? Just a quick check. What happened? What did I do wrong? What was wrong here? Six points for William.

Varicity. Varicity. Yes. Public school education, JJ. There it is. Same here, brother. Right here, it's Varisity. Varisity, yes. Public school education, JJ, there it is. Same here, brother, same here. Varisity should have showed up with the blue line underneath or the red line under it,

but you capitalized it, so then they probably thought it was a title. Man, I'll tell you what, smartphone, not smart enough in this situation, but our eyes, there's a trick, I think. It's called something. If you just have all the letters of a word in the first letter's right and the last letter's right,

your brain will normally piece it together right I think that is called something I forget what it is but Veristi here I didn't even notice till you pointed out JJ very JJ Watt move there very see the Varis yep sorry see the Varis the Shregs I was impressed with your shooting ability I was also impressed with the New York Knicks watching them live now obviously the Pacers get a huge win Tyreserese Halliburton goes Hallibanannas. Okay, he certainly did that in front. Triple H jelly roll, 50 cent and a litany of people that traveled out to Indianapolis, Indiana to watch this Eastern Conference Final game, yourself included. What are your thoughts on the way out of there and

what are your thoughts on the series now after getting a chance to experience that? And what are your thoughts on the series now after getting a chance to experience that? First off, incredible game day experience. I came in there as one of the few Knicks fans wearing the Knicks colors. And I've been in other buildings where you wear those colors and you get heckled the entire game. These Pacers fans were awesome. Everyone was respectful. And I'll tell you what I loved about it.

30 minutes before the game, they're all in their seats and you've got Avicii levels just blasting. Da, da, da, da, da. And like everyone's like ready to go and it is a party. And I'm like, oh, like this is not gonna be one of those where the fans come trickling in with about 10 minutes left in the first quarter. And okay, I'm getting my, this is in LA. And in a lot of ways I've seen that Delta lounge

at the garden, third quarters, maybe it's not a full house to start. everyone's still mingling at halftime these Pacers fans brought it and I felt like there was from no way no point to the Knicks have control we were up one would I think about a minute left in the second quarter and I'm like all right let's go into halftime with a lead and then the Pacers they got that lead and then Pat you talked about it to start the show. I don't know if the viewers at home have a grasp on the promo that you did and just how much

it changed the energy in the building. Because the Knicks were coming and it was down from like a 13 point game to a seven point game. They give you the mic, you do this promo, you cut this promo and you call out the celebrities and it seems like we're all loving it, it's all great. And you tell those SOBs to get on home. And it is such a moment in that building.

If you watch it to the end of this video, and I'm not gonna make myself part of the story here, but you call out everybody, they cut to the crowd on this Jumbotron, and it was my section, and I'm wearing my dumb Nick's hat, and I'm just sitting there giggling as you're taking everybody apart here. You Pat, watch this, freeze frame it right here.

You can see me, wait, keep going, keep going. Yeah, there he is right there. There he is! There he is! There he is! There he is! I'm watching this! I'm loving it, I'm like, this is amazing. Now I make a plea to you. You've got enough connections through the NBA through WWE through ESPN. Dude, if you showed up at the garden wearing like a

TJ McConnell like t shirt, Jersey or something like sit courtside, keep this thing going. Pat, I think you would be A, embraced in a way that everyone would love it because here you are, you're going to pay it forward. We're going to come to your building now. And B, I think if you haven't been to a game at the garden yet, a playoff game, a do or die game, you will love it. And C, if your boys do win, which they might, you'll be on the court when the Pacers beat the Knicks in the garden. Yeah, you'll be on the court when the Pacers

beat the Knicks in the Garden Throw. Yeah, yeah, that'd be crazy. That'd be crazy. You know, first of all, appreciate you for coming to the city, hanging out with us yesterday, enjoying the game. We got some photos of you kind of going through the game last night and experiencing all the highs and lows sent to us because you were spotted by people that we knew. We love that you just came. Yep, there he is. Yeah, just bomb that. I didn't stare around the guy's ass.

I think there was a chance that maybe some outfits around you weren't necessarily your favorites as well, but I appreciate you. There's a dude wearing Birkenstocks with no socks. It's like his toenails, it's my fate. I don't know, where are you people from Indiana? Get your foot a pair. This guy shows up wearing Birkenstocks. That guy with the Pacers jacket, nice dude.

He was standing up the entire game. Oh, I'm staring at his, you know what, the entire game. And finally I'm just like, I'm gonna sit in the aisle on my hand, like I'm just watching like this. But I respect that he's- Are you wearing a button down over your Nick shirt? What you can't tell I can't tell from here. Is that a button down that you're wearing? That's a that's a that is a flannel sweater the button down type deal, which I was not even wearing a Nick shirt I was just wearing regular generic clothing Nick's hat JJ. It's reporting the brand but then one go overboard with it

But this dude with the pace like I thought this was debt left shrimp. This was burn Fleming with this old school Pacers You know windbreaker. He was wearing Birkenstocks his pose all out You you saw this guy standing in front of you and you were sitting down you're just eyeing this guy, okay Public like this unbelievable Unbelievable. And then the Pacers start to do what they do. It was, it was a magical night last night in Gainbridge. I was thankful to be there, lucky to be there. We're appreciative of you coming out there. Going to MSG, that's a funny thought. I know how much we paid for our seats there at Gainbridge Fieldhouse. I couldn't even fathom what Madison Square Garden would be for

those tickets you talked about all those connections I think even those connections have to pay for these things from what I from my understanding and this how this is all going I want to get Narcan on the line need two commercials to get out there to Madison Square Garden but I thought about it last night you know especially after I was getting heckled and I heard a lot of people say like This type of stuff wouldn't happen in New York I think I saw Ben Stiller say would not happen Which I don't know if he meant wouldn't not happen as if it would happen because that's a double negative there I don't know wouldn't happen maybe and then he added the not in his tweet

I was trying to figure out I was trying to see if Ben still was actually Like yeah, he definitely was and someone also tweeted the video from last year of when the Knicks went up 2-0 in MSG. And they're chanting F you Reggie. Yeah. And then Josh Hart comes over to clarify what they're saying. They're saying, you buddy,

is what they're saying in that entire thing. And I love that. I enjoy that. That's what I think sports are. That's cool, right? But I just, I found it awesome that like, they were neat. Cause I said, send these sons of bitches homes with their ears

Ringing is what I was talking about because I wanted it to be loud because I heard this that part Oh, everybody missed that once. I heard I did say it. It's clearly did he say it Pete? Did he say that I missed that part I backed out once I heard sob send him home Turn this shit up turn this shit. Yeah, because I heard I heard the third game. Okay, which some people Might have missed sure Nobody sleeps through it, right? Mm-hmm. Nobody somebody threw it Yeah, some people did though cuz any 500 day was a long day

I raced a you know It was the way it was get in get out there and what Paul who did for first time in the history of? Span your drivers wins the Indy 500 there's a lot of emotions there So some people weren't maybe there for that game and we're supposed to be certainly paid for a seat there And didn't didn't make it to it or whatever. I heard bad news out of game bridge I heard it was uh heard at the end of the game. It was a little bit done It was as fast was as loud so I literally they weren't vrooming Shregs is at both games. He obviously had much more fun on Sunday than he did on Tuesday

He said it was he said I didn't expect it to be as docile as it was now The Pacers were up 20 basically for the entirety. So maybe they got bored also a long day So whenever they hand me a microphone Everyone had their vroom vroom t-shirts on. Did you do the Indy 500 fans? Shregs, did you do the Indy 500? No, I didn't know Yeah, it would've been a long day wouldn't been able to do it. That would be a hell of a day though. That's it. That's an Indianapolis Staple day. Yeah, you're racing and pacing exactly. No, I just did some racing and snoozing and

Woke up saw a game watch the of the minute from tip off all the way to the final and then fell back asleep in that entire thing. But yeah, I missed it. So whenever they give me a microphone for the fourth quarter, it's like, Oh, I heard. I've never seen that in any sporting event. Forget just NBA basketball fourth quarter. He's like, I've never seen a fan. First Mike Epps got one was fine in the third quarter. Then they give it to Pat McAfee in the fourth. I'm like, I've never seen this in the history of wait there were multiple mics Mike Epps yeah you got Mike Epps in the building you're gonna give him a microphone Mike Epps Indianapolis legend by the way and that was your angle

because Mike Epps was so he did a long promo like pro Indianapolis Pacers let's go guys so your only angle was the New York fans that were there Mike Epps actually yeah he did his promo and I thought to myself, okay, I don't have to do one. That is literally, I thought they, I did not know I was getting a microphone last night. I did not know that. Come on.

Legitimately did not know. Had done it in the past. A year ago I did one, it was like a regular season game, I think, but it was like a full thing. Like I was there for Tyrese, Tyrese gave me the tickets. It was a full thing. I'm like, okay, so I'm sitting here got free tickets I could do a little you know, we're doing an entire thing. They hadn't shown you the whole night. No, not why? Oh, yeah, you're sitting there fourth quarter. Like they haven't shown me the whole night

Third quarter. I was coming like come on Third quarter. I'm a okay. I literally thought it was not gonna happen. You're the king of the castle Showed on that jumbotron every single Pacers player who's ever played from 1976 to 2025 it was awesome. I'm saying, you know, Danny Granger is in the house. Jermaine O'Neill is in the house They also had like both Davis brothers. I'm like house, Jermaine O'Neill's in the house. They also had like both Davis brothers. I'm like, wait a sec, lefty out of Georgia Tech. I'm like, yes, they're all there. Then they go in and they do some of the indie legends, which is cool. And you had Mike Epps and John Mellencamp. Yeah.

Then you did get a triple H who was with Pat, but they didn't show. You knew this shit was gone. No, I thought for real. They were not. I thought it was like, I, I, because once again, I cannot stress this enough. The price of those tickets was a lot of money. But Trey, Trey, as you're sitting in your seat, did you think to yourself, oh, they're saving him. They're saving him for the right moment.

You had to know that they were- I didn't know what was happening. I was so confused because I showed every, I mean, I'm talking literally like, Deadlifts Shrimp isn't here today, but let's show a picture of him. Every pacer you could imagine. And I'm like, are they going to show Pat? And then it was already like fourth quarter, JJ, five minutes left. I'm like, I guess they're not going to show.

I don't know what the deal is. Maybe he didn't want to be on camera. Maybe he wasn't. And then this moment, I'm telling you, it was like a 10 point game. Pat does his thing. And it's like, let me hear you say, boom, and there's a boom boom boom and he's a way oh and the place goes hahahaha they brought in Mariano Rivera they saved you till the bottom of the ninth

yeah and they brought a big arm and they said get him in here it was an honor talk for the boys you know and I like this team so cool was so cool. I literally knew 45 seconds before that I was talking I would just like that to be done that's a whole nother angle. Guy good MC great MC brings the juice. You're right great MC. He shows up with the microphone and literally like 30 seconds before that I'm like are you doing an interview with me like how's this gonna go? He goes no I'm giving you the microphone I'm like okay shit here we go we're off and running and then all of a sudden, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. I will say Timothy Chalamet being in Indiana

Like you brought it up yesterday about him spending his Memorial Day Traveling to Indianapolis to watch his Knicks play It was very evident that he is a passion like watching him react to the Knicks was so cool Especially because he's gonna be the biggest actor on earth. He's the next one, right? Yes He's one of the next yeah on earth. He's the next one, right? He is he's one of the next yeah for sure. He's the next one So like him loving sports as much as he does awesome spike We obviously been doing this for decades and decades in Ben Stiller I don't think I knew he was as big of a Knicks fan as he is

But he clearly is traveling all the way out to Indianapolis multiple times to watch it So I I thought it was like cool to see them. So yeah, I mean, me shouting them out was in a, I'm telling you it was out of a place of like respect and love. If you wouldn't have done that though, and you would have been like smooching their ass, like they would have booed you. Yeah, well we can't be losing a fourth quarter Schragers here. Yeah.

You know, we can't have you losing in front of Schrags. I'm telling you. Came out of nowhere, had a good time, happily won. Chalamet, when he won, he won like the SAG After Award and he goes up there and gives a speech. You saw this where he's like, this ain't a joke, this ain't a hobby. Like I want to be the Michael Jordan of acting. And like anyone else says that, you're like, all right, tool, like get out of here. It like completely resonated with everyone. It's like finally someone with some bravado who's coming in here. Stiller, to his credit, this guy lives on like the Nick's Twitter page. Like there's guys like

I hate Sean and Jonathan Macri and like Anthony MSG like mixed Twitter people and Stiller is on Twitter like engaging with them all day, all night at 65. So he's legit man. Like he's guys for real deal. That said, if you came to the garden, I'm telling, it's not just like- Next to him. Do you have an extra $300,000? I mean, I don't even know what that could be. I honestly, here we go to SeatGeek.

Let's look for some, it's gonna be tough to read. Can we zoom in on that at all? $47,000? $69,000? That's not bad. $69,000? $69,000? You got that. Is that for for one for one ticket. Yeah. Yeah, so those two right there

47,000 that whole rows open You can get it. They said hey listen you can get it 69,000 for about 15 seats I mean you're no you need to be courtside. Yeah, you need to be court side. I don't need you seven throw. I need you court side $47,000 a ticket over there. I mean you've given away you instill and times that on a kick on college game day Come on, yeah, what Henry's Henry and Daniel they deserve that they're great kicks a great kick you instill are next to each other What is that? This is Thursday? Yeah might have something going going on Thursday But if I can I will certainly make it I Yeah, I would I would love you so much Shanks are you going?

I'm gonna go Let's get that SeatKey rolled. Let's get a little zoom out. Zoom out! You saw what I was saying. How's that ESPN deal? Where are we at? How about right behind there? 3742. That seems like good seats. Eww!

We got a 730 up there at the top of the entire state building. If I get a ticket out there, yeah, no doubt. $829 up there at the top of the Empire State Building. If I get a ticket out, yeah, no doubt. $629 up there, you'll see it. You'll see it, they say. You'll be in the building. You'll be in the building where it happens. A grand. Second to last row is a grand.

What are we doing? That's Massive Square Garden, brother. That's me at the Raising Canes in Penn Station. That's it. There it is. All the way out there. We'll just know this. If I end up going, which would

be very cool, I will say very cool. I will certainly get a ticket for you, Shrakes. Okay. I can say that you don't have to do that. I just need you in the building. I just need the, I need you to experience it. And if you do invite me, I would gladly come. I'll sit wherever. But I really, this is bucket list stuff, dude, the garden and elimination game for your team. Come on. Okay, so I would say we're gonna spend 70 grand on those tickets.

We got 69 grand up there in front. Schrags up there in a thousand. You'll be sitting like a puppy. That's kind of how the Massive Square Garden thing is too. They are like on top of you there. Schrags, if I end up going, which is gonna be a tall task, literally with my schedule, but if I ever make it, we will get you tickets.

Let's talk a little bit about NFL. Jade's brought up a Trey Hendrickson story a little bit ago. Is there any movement on that in your eyes? And what do you think is the deadline for that whole thing? Because Rappaport tells us on a regular basis, I think this is going to get done. I think this is going to get done. He said he thinks that the Bengals end up paying Trey Hendrickson. Do you agree with that?

Or what are your kind of thoughts on how Trey Hendrickson. Do you agree with that? Or what are your kind of thoughts on how Trey Hendrickson ends up being an Indianapolis Colt this year? It's such a unique situation because he's approaching it so much differently than we've seen players in the past. He's a 30 year old guy who met his wife in Cincinnati, had his kids in Cincinnati and loves being a Bengal.

And instead of him going through an agent or doing these cryptic Instagram messages, he straight up came on your show and then spoke with reporters and was just wearing his heart on a sleeve saying this is what the market is paying these guys and I am grossly underpaid. I think it's fair that I at least get some sort of bump. And yet the bangles entered this entire off season

with this label of being cheap and being small time and they broke the bank on what they thought was their top two priorities. Two wide receivers under the age of 30, who everyone expected was gonna be one or the other. In one fell swoop, they took care of both of them and they thought they had checked the box. Little did they realize that they would have

this upset veteran player who happens to also be a wonderful member of the community and a great leader in the locker room who's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I want mine also. Ian might have a different read on it than I do. I just know they went into this off season with priority one being Jamar Chase, priority two being T Higgins.

I'm not sure they saw this Trey Hendrickson thing approaching like it has. It's been a locomotive and I don't know if it gets settled by the time we're at training camp. 40 million a year is the number Miles Garrett's getting to play the same position in the same state in the same division. Yeah.

You know, so that happening, Haslem, I genuinely believe that when Haslem agrees to these deals, he does think about the other owners that can't keep up. And especially in the AFC North in the entirety of it all and Myles Garrett getting that deal done there's somebody in Pittsburgh that's upset let's not ask his brother about it now don't do that he'll be pissed I'm not pissed I have plenty of I have I have all I have all the information I just can't share it oh wow isn't that nice you have all the information on AJ

Hawks best friend because I seen some reports that people are pissed that Aaron Rodgers isn't at OTAs for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's not even on the team But has a question for you shrinks are there any people that are actually on teams that are not showed up to OTAs I know Miles Garrett He's in Tokyo or something like that But he probably has his own off-season deal, like a lot of vets do. But are there any other players,

maybe with some contract things going on, that haven't showed up to OTAs that are surprising? What's interesting is, first of all, I'm just a total, Darius Butler made about 16 shots out of 16 yesterday from three, and there's a video of me making two. Darius Butler did not miss a three point shot for the entire four hour show. Yeah, Darius is unbelievable.

He is unbelievable. Yeah, I agree. You know when they used to do like the NFL NBA players, NFL NBA players conversation. Rock and jock. Yeah. Okay. That was that actually happened on MTV, I believe.

And the four point shot that was way up in the sky was obviously something. Nobody ever mentions D.t as representing the NFL playing basketball this guy still plays runs five on five oh yeah still to this day legit on a regular basis. Yeah but you're practicing in here you're practicing in here you get reps in. I mean the guy's unbelievable. Shrek you're right he's unbelievable at basketball. Incredible and like a very generous passer too. Gorgeous passes. Now look, I played in the Jersey Shore in a conference called A North, which if you're from New Jersey, you know that was like the conference in a giant public school conference. So when I average six

points a game, that is a badge of honor. That is something I am proud of. I started as a junior, get this, then I come in as a senior, as the captain and my coach, Brian Gallob with the Friul Township Patriots, about three games in. It's like, we got this sophomore dude who was dunking and I probably played like two minutes a game my senior year, which was the James Johnson of that team. I was talking to the other coaches. You ask about a North. I mean, that's Quinton Nelson played in A North and we had a bunch of dogs out of that conference

and you know, CBA and Red Brank regional, like real team. So I am honored, I am honored. So ask around, it's good. As for the players who didn't show up, Kirk Cousins not being at practice was a little interesting because there's all these different little milestone markers during the off season and the Falcons could have moved on from Kirk Cousins.

March 10th, he got a huge bonus. He collected that. The draft, everyone's filling out their stuff. They didn't trade them. And then right up here to OTAs, it's like, all right, well there's some, and for Cousins, as Schefter reported, and Raheem Morris basically was being coy with reporters, like I didn't see Kurt today so I don't know where that heads Jay Jay just said why would he be I mean like we kind of knew he

wasn't gonna be there right no Kirk cousins leader of the team show it up show leadership yeah you know I was a two points per game senior year guy I showed up to all those practices I wasn't't making 30, $40 million, JJ. So I don't know, maybe. But you could make the argument that it's literally probably worse. I mean, it all depends on how the attitude is. If you were to show up, you're saying because it's

this penicillin. Yeah, who's taking the reps, how are we gonna break this down, all these things. And there's conversations that don't even, I mean, that's my take on it, currently. That's actually a really interesting perspective. And I love that we have that player perspective on that because to me as an outsider, I raised my eyebrows.

I said, well, that's interesting because they could have moved on from him. And then he's not there. And he's always been such a classic veteran and all along has been like, I'll do whatever I'm as necessary. But I had not considered that where, hey, maybe if I'm there at clouds things for Pennix, let him be the dog, let him be the guy, let him run this entire three week process and then I'll show up at training camp that could be very well yeah I think it might be one of those situations where it's like that we're not all gonna play this little charade where I'm gonna go out here and take

reps from guys who actually need reps and who want to get reps like we all know what's happening here I'm not actually gonna be like they have their guy they've made that clear just go ahead go with that Kirk and go build fires with the boys. Yeah, with the kids. Coop. Coop. That's a good fire Coop. Yep. Kirk Cousins is the winner of that quarterback series in my eyes and wide receiver one and then other one that they did, which is really yeah, everyone came in that that that show everyone came into

that like Kirk's a little corny. He comes off not only as cool as hell, but also like so dedicated and tough. And then he did all that stuff in his, in his house with his wife, like where you're looking at him, like memorizing plays. Like I thought to your point, no one's brand or public image was built up more and, and, and increase and given a lot of goodwill than Kirk Cousins. And that's the guy he is. I think he's a lot from Atlanta. No, we don't know that. That's the thing. It's like everyone assumed.

He's got a no-trade clause too. Yeah. He controls where he goes with the no-trade clause. Great call. And also there was all these different milestones where they've already paid, like they're giving him millions just by being on the roster throughout this off season, every single milestone. And he's still there. And to a man, Raheem Morris is like, he's going to be our number two. He's going to be there. And that's what we plan on having as our backup in this room.

Now as long as Pittsburgh doesn't have a quarterback, I'll always keep my eyes open on that. And I know that just because they never actually overlapped, the fact that Arthur Smith came from Atlanta and knows Terry Fontenot and knows Arthur Blank and knows what those guys and like they didn't end on horrible relations to me there's still a connection there and then oh by the way Mike Tomlin's best friend in the league is probably Raheem Morris so to me there's always an open line of dialogue which is the most important thing these people know each other that if Rogers pulls the chute or does something who knows TJ Watts quarterback could be Kirk Cousins if you're just looking to

fill the seats on the carousel. Pulse the chute. Does that mean retire or? Yeah, I don't know. I made that up. I don't know what that even means. Yeah. Cause like, yeah, then he was kind of in the free fall. It made your point. I think it was a good, line because it definitely knew the Avicii levels. Oh Was the song that played immediately after I spoke let me say way Guy in the Birkenstocks lost his mind when they played that song

730 at night, you've got your best verne fleming you know windbreaker on what shoes am i gonna wear socks get them out of here give me the berkansai yeah i want to be comfortable out there might have to go walk a trail you know might have to eat some granola maybe chew some bark yeah maybe chew some you never know you never know what you're gonna have to do by the way cool as hell nice guy tatted up the the whole thing, I like him. Of course. Just stared at his feet the entire game. Yeah.

It was better than viewing a corral with Pates who's getting a big top win over the New York Knicks. You talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers maybe with Kirk Cousins. The story was if the Cleveland Browns don't take a quarterback in number two, they're gonna trade for Kirk Cousins. Now, they have a lot of quarterbacks on their roster. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shriggs. Now there's rumors floating around that there's no way that the Browns are going to go into maybe even camp or start the season with the four guys they have. Is there any chance that

another team is interested in one of their quarterbacks? And if they were to trade someone, interested in one of their quarterbacks and if they were to trade someone like are we strictly talking either Joe Flacco or Kenny Pickett here like is there any chance that either one of the guys they drafted this year could potentially be moved before the season? I just don't what's the value on a Dylan Gabriel no one knows you know what he is and if they wanted him they could have drafted him in the first two rounds so I would take Dylan Gabriel off of that. Shador, same thing. The issue becomes with Flacco, he was a free agent and Stefanski knows him. And I do value the personal relationships here. And in this case, you know, Flacco had options. Stefanski said you were come back player of the year. He took us to the playoffs two years ago. Like come back to Cleveland. I'd be really hard pressed to think

after they lured Flacco back to Cleveland after he already signed with Indy last year for a year and that he would then be told, all right, sorry, we're getting betrayed in here. That'd be really rough on him. Pickett might just be the odd man out just based on how it all went down. They traded for him, but it was more,

hey, we've already got Flacco. We don't know what we're gonna do with the young guys. We'll take Kenny Pickett. Now that said, if Kenny Pickett lights it up in the next few weeks and demands the room and does all that stuff, who knows? But to me, if you're looking at those four guys, who's the odd man out,

I would just think based on relationships, value and what they can maybe get in return, I would think Kenny Pickett would be the odd man out of those four. Fascinating. What is gonna happen with Shador and Dylan Gabriel? That is not talked about right now. No. At all.

That's kind of gotten quiet. That's good, right? Just letting people do their job, kind of work, do their thing. Did we expect that? I didn't, I don't think I expected that. Wait till pre-season. I think, I think training camp will be a real testing ground

for all of these guys. And with Shador's case, I remember covering the Seattle Seahawks back in 2012 when they had a fellow Wisconsin Badger, albeit for just one year, but a fellow Wisconsin Badger showed up and there was already the late Trevarez Jackson who could play and they already had Matt Flynn who just had signed a massive free agent contract to AJ knows well and Russell Wilson showed up the day he got there. And by the time it was the second week of preseason,

covering that team, being in Seattle, no one could even deny that Russell was the best player in that room. And even the quarterbacks who were the veterans, the late Tavares Jackson, and of course, Matt Flynn, they had to concede that, yeah, this guy's amazing. He's a diamond. That was 2012, that was 13 years ago.

Shador is going to probably have to have that kind of impact where it becomes undeniable to anybody. And then Kevin Stefanski, the head coach, is like, yes, the fourth quarterback in this room, when we stack it, as far as chronological order goes, signing Joe, trading for Kenny, drafting Dylan, the fourth quarterback is by far the best guy and gives us the best option to win week one. That is an uphill battle that he can do because none of these guys are bonafide

number ones per by any means, but it is an uphill battle for him as a day three draft pick to be the starting quarterback week one. And I think a lot of people are just opening the door like, Hey, that could happen. It's an open competition. It's never really a true open competition because guys come in at different points on the roster. And on the depth chart today, he did take reps as the fourth quarterback taking reps. Yeah. He's fifth round draft pick and Dylan Gabriel obviously drafted ahead of him in this particular draft.

So that obviously builds up an anima. I don't want to say animosity, but a conversation or controversy just amongst those two, let alone the guy that led to Cleveland Browns in the playoffs two years ago in Joe Flacco being back in Kenny Pickett who touched the ball last in the last Super Bowl. Good question. Kenny Pickett. So all through that quarterback controversy will obviously be a lot of chatter and a lot of conversation but it's all because Deshaun Watts got 230 million dollars there trying to find anything he possibly can. Correct. And uh Shador's slide to the fifth round we'll see if it was warranted or justified or if maybe he's able to become a superstar

What about Dylan Gabriel third round pick level third round picks are going on to start earlier than fifth round? Hey and clear clearly they wanted Dylan Gabriel on their team. They wouldn't have drafted him in the third round They took a quarterback before Shador Sanders in this draft and that was Dylan Gabriel and everyone dismissing him because of what they all Thought was gonna happen going into the draft Granted should or might have had a bigger spotlight, but like they drafted Dylan Gabriel over Shador Sanders. So let's not cheat Dylan Gabriel out of that opportunity to win that job as well.

Yeah, absolutely. Dylan Gabriel, big 10 champ. Dylan Gabriel goes over to Oregon and does phenomenal things. Now they get doors blown off them in the Rose Bowl, which I think is what a lot of people remember of that Oregon team, but that Ohio State team was gonna beat anybody on that particular day.

That's right. I do believe AJ has a question for you, Shregs. Yeah, Shregs, what about Jalen Ramsey? I know McDaniels came out and said there's nothing that's really happened. Where does he play next year, do you think? Yeah, McDaniel was asked three questions on it back to back to back today, and usually Mike is so verbose and will go on a real tangent, and actually speaks to the reporters like human beings and gives them answers. And today he went to like the company line was like, I'm only talking about guys who are here.

So that tells me that they really are at a standstill there. Now the issue with Jalen Ramsey, AJ is that he makes $20 million a year. So someone is going to have to take at least some of that, you know, a big bulk of that and the Dolphins are not going to trade him 30 cents on the dollar. So everyone just assumes the Rams because he played there. I don't get the feeling the Rams are banging down the doors for the Miami Dolphins to trade them Jalen Ramsey so they can pay him $16, $17 million this year as a corner. I think there is probably a better chance he has traded than him being there on the

team but I don't have a line or a list of teams that make sense at the moment just because of the salary and just because of the salary and also because of this time of year, usually it'll heat up more towards training camp. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys live from hammer. Don, Don, Don. Thank you, Jade.

I'm trying, man. That is hard. You guys are good. That's good. That's AP tone back there. I forgot about that. That's kind of cool What's that? AP? Yeah, you have a vote. I got to see your final ballots by the way never saw he's posted him publicly

We have we believe in transparency around here. Mm-hmm. I gotta go check those we consulted and the truth Yeah, didn't he talk to you about yeah. No, he did and where'd he put TJ? I don't remember third I think I believe it was second. Okay, of course Tell me you have a question for shrinks van Genki was first. You know, he just van Genki in a great season. Yeah shrinks Buffalo Bills have we heard anything about James Cook? I know we talked earlier about OTA guys who weren't there What's his situation because I know he I believe he's looking for 20 million Yeah, I don't know if it's 20, but it's significantly more than what I think the bills are looking to extend him with this off season.

So there's going to have to be some middle ground there. But when all these different running backs, whether it be Saquon or Derrick Henry, got their little bumps in pay here and they were paid more than what they came in last year as free agents, I think James Cook and his agent probably looked at that and said, okay, well, let's take care of an aspiring or an ascending guy who was the best player on the field for them in a lot of games. And especially during the Chiefs when he had that insane stretch across the goal line, but that Brandon Beane's job

this off season was to extend a lot of different guys. And, you know, I think they want to take care of James Cook but not at the numbers that have been tossed around at the moment. James Cook, let James Cook. Was kind of their mantra. He sees Saquon Barkley sign a massive deal. He thinks to himself, excuse me, what's going on around here?

I need my first big payday. 20 touchdowns. Yeah, why not? Good luck, Brandon Beans got to get that figured out. He paid a lot of people. Yeah. They're in a transition process. I think James Cook is a great player.

I hope they get it figured out. That team could go, especially in front of his new bison That's right. They got new bison outside the stadium. Have you heard about no, I like to hear about this Okay, they're building a new stadium up there in Buffalo. It's gonna be beautiful. It's gonna be gorgeous. What a great fan base They will be done Probably not okay construction. Yep How it goes always gonna be delayed there's gonna be things especially with the weather up there I don't know how they get anything accomplished open-air stadium. Probably too much saw the final beam though final beam

That's a big day. Yeah, it is a big day. Have you seen the bison out front? No, I need to hear about this. So you know what a bison is. I sure do eat them all the time Do you know what a buff you do eat her kids? They're healthy. Yep. Do you know what a buffalo looks like? I sure do what are the differences? I don't know. Okay, so you don't know I know I What are the differences? I don't know. Okay, so you don't know shit. I mean, I know. You asked if I knew what a buffalo looks like.

I do. What does it look like then? The University of Colorado mascot, Ralphie. No, so that's actually a bison. Son of a bitch. Yeah, that is not a- Are you kidding me? Wait, really?

That's illegal. Yeah, that is a bison. That's illegal. That's like the Buffalo Fills. That's false advertising. Thank you. Yeah, so they're going to have bison, actually. Water buffaloes have these things here.

Exactly. They have these things here off their heads Well, that's a water buffalo being good. What's a regular buffalo? So good question. That's just what it is Yeah, it's a bison. Everything we've been calling a buffalo is actually a nice Dakota State should take Colorado's mascot State is the bison. Yeah. Yeah, they have that what the hell should be running around Folsom Field for a buffalo Yeah, why he stinks? Yeah, that's a water buffalo. They're not called the water buffalo. That's what a buffalo is. So there's no regular buffalo. No it's a bison. Everything we've thought has been a buffalo has been a bison our entire life. Are you sure? Yes, remember we did this. We'll tell the entire thing. Yep. Because whenever they

took they put the the new statue. Anyways there's new statues coming in front of the Buffalo Bill. They're Bisons Which is what the Colorado Buffalo's have so the Buffalo Bill on the helmet is a bicycle I play a Buffalo Bison, but they're technically that that's fine because they don't call themselves the Buffalo Buffalo's Yeah, they're just fine. It's just a mascot anyways. They're gonna have Bisons I'll call these things gonna be off about 18 feet? I believe how many of them three? Okay, it's that hot. We have two bulls outside of NRG Stadium in Houston Bull versus bison how makes the bull very large how big do you know that? I don't know does it feel like it's big enough It's it's it's big. Can you walk between its legs?

You could you could walk under it. Yeah, can you hop on its back ride it like you'd have like a bucking bull you'd have to climb but you could get up there I would say you could to JJ Watts could toss up in yeah so it's about 12 feet I would say 12 feet to probably act no I think it's a little taller than 12 feet you think yeah pedestal it's on the chest or the head I think the top of the head is probably 20 feet. So that seems like a big ass... That's a big... That's a big ass bolt.

On a pedestal. The pedestal. I am counting the pedestal. Yeah, because that's the base of the trophy. Correct. So do people take pictures in front of it? They do. See, this is what... this is the research that Buffalo needed to do for their bison on the... Why? They don't have these things? Everybody thinks that the bison is going to be too small.

We don't have a rendering? We have renderings of everything in today's world. The renderings have them very large and then the real size came out. Everybody's like, wait a minute, we got a baby ass bison. Oh no. The show continues. Yeah, then the mammoth are going to have to put some mammoths outside. That's going to be sick. Great recommendation, by the way. Thank you. We did a little good brainstorming. We're going to end here on ESPN. We'll continue digitally. The show stinks. We know that you don't have to tell us, but if you'd like to continue to watch, we'll be on YouTube, ESPN+, Disney+, and TikTok Live. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. The Indiana Pacers are one win away from going to the NBA finals. It's going to be a tough one over there in Madison Square Garden. This

Nick seems tough. Their fans are dedicated and loyal. But so is the Indiana Pacer faithful. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. Including Ben Stiller. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye! Alright, we nailed it. Okay, let's get back. I was just trying to fill there, Shregs.

I was just trying to fill there. I loved it. I loved it. So I went to the bison talk. You just- There's no way that's correct. Alright. That's nuts.

Somebody filled me. I mean, I don't- That's insane. We had a tough day. We did it live on the air really Yeah, it's only right know this and like did somebody from the University of Colorado reach out and say like this Yeah, they did actually you're right. They did they called our show because what we did is a brainstorm session I want air and they said you guys really

University of Colorado somebody out there. I mean Deon's on socials everywhere. He's gonna see look Yeah, see this look brother we need the buffalo answer that's bison Plains bison bison bison I agree that looks exactly like Ralphie yeah what's bison bison the buffaloes got the horns that's what they are all right Wow got a Cape Buffalo and water buffalo two very different things there yeah similar horns though just ones a little bit more worn in So how a little bit more fresh the water buffalo have fresher horns I'm baffled right now at how they got gotten away with this for a hundred years You're allowed to call a bison a buffalo. There's no crime against it. No one's gonna fight you

I know it's gonna be a Russian not technically correct. It's wrong 2025 just calling so it'd be like this it'd be like the New Orleans pelicans having a toucan as their mascot Yeah, but calling themselves a pelican. Yeah, but calling themselves a pelican. Yeah, I mean pretty disrespectful I guess the bison I think kind of thing. I guess that's really the core of what I'm really upset on behalf This whole thing I eat them every day. That's what you're eating, bro. You're eating a buffalo. Oh Man, my son eats him too. He loves loves bison Probably doesn't matter. It's very good for you. But maybe I'm more I've I've met Ralphie. I visited the University of Colorado I feel like I was lied to you were I don't think that his name is not even Ralphie

Shit, you're right. I don't know if it's a he either. No, we don't know anything. We don't know anything Yeah, well we do we do actually because we told you this so you got to get Ben Stiller on the show Random thought I don't know if that's gonna have has to happen I'm being used to clarify his tweet and I need to know if he's actually upset or not I don't think still are on he needs to clear. Yeah, I was reading the tweet. I was literally reading Connor has some Cinematic questions as well. I do yeah gripes Yeah, but Ben Stiller has created some bangers around my life

Which is why when I saw him as a it's pretty sweet and then I was reading his tweets I'm like Ben still is not actually I personally didn't think He will come on the show I believe severance is him he's here escape from what is it on Amora whatever that was Anna more He's not a silly guy necessarily now. He's a director. Okay, he's not He's not a silly guy necessarily now. He's a director. Okay, he's not He didn't know how to go back and forth with athletes like they do not Hollywood kid he's a little different He's got their sports center in two minutes great guy, he's got fix that hair. Yeah has a hat on yeah Yeah, cap on sports center can't be doing that at all no, okay? Let's get to a break on the other side We have a national champion joining us

We have a man from a family of lacrosse players joining us That we just learned about recently should know about no CJ cursed is his name JJ. Do you know him? I do now. See from a great family cross players. That is well done. Big cursed what he was able to do with the stick man. And then second big curse. Yep. Nasty mitts. Third big curse. Three curse. Great. So many of them. Like the Elias family. No different. They didn't grow up in Pittsburgh.

Yeah. The curse are actually from not Pittsburgh. I Think Jersey somebody here should have done research on this curse fan. We're gonna do that right now quickly We're gonna do that right now quickly. Yep, absolutely dog the cursed family from what we've been told from other people We know run the lacrosse family. I Got a lot of questions. So perfect good good family represent lacrosse is what I'm being told What I'm being told is good family chit chat about lacrosse Just had one of the greatest years in the history of college lacrosse Tied the goal scoring record in the history of college lacrosse and won a national championship this guy had six goals

What was it? How many guys six goals tie the record at 82 also has the most points ever in a career has the most goals Ever in a career and yes, I did remember he is they are from New Jersey and he's six goals in the national championship I did I saw this highlight really over that I was he's a freight train Yeah, he's a dog CJ curse cannot wait to talk to him on the other side. Congrats at Cornell we continue to be a Lacrosse a pro lacrosse show. Absolutely. A pro lacro go show. Yeah. Yeah.

GoPro lacro show. Just like we've been saying this entire time. Exactly. Did you ever play lacrosse out there in Wisconsin? No, it started to pick up right near the end. In Wisconsin hockey was still the winner. You were a hockey player, right? Yes.

Did you hear what the Oilers did to the Stars last night? I did. Oh, it's over. It's over for Texas hockey. Not over. We'll win game five, then we'll see what happens after that. But we ain't dead yet. We ain't dead yet.

They're playing La Bamba up there. You want to know what happened with the Oilers? The Oilers get very hot, and they get very cold. You just got to get them once. Congrats to the Oilers, 4-1 win over the Dallas Stars last night. Obviously, we were paying attention to the Pacers-Nicks win over the Dallas Stars last night. Obviously we were paying attention to the Pacers-Nicks game because we were actually there. Got a chance to catch the highlights.

It was only two-one then two empty netters. Yeah. So score a little bit different than how the game actually went but 4-1 still a massive win for the Oilers as they move three to one against the Dallas Stars and it does feel like we're heading towards a potential rematch. Yeah, all four series, three one, from both in the NBA and both in the NHL. All right, let's get to a break. On the other side, we got a national champion joining us. We can't wait to talk to him, learn about him and his family. Can't wait to learn about LaCrosse more.

I'm becoming an NLL guy. Yeah. The kids all know about it. The kids all know Curse, believe me. They all love watching. Oh, really? The LaCrosse kids? Oh yeah, they're in touch with the kids.

My son, all of his friends mentioned they talk about him. Yeah for sure He's got a little crow family the Hawks Yeah, the Hawks do the crow. Yeah, I don't doubt that at all I bet they beat the shit out of people with those sticks. They do. Yes I know any girls game you're not allowed to right? I know yeah girls are stupid. They should let it play like the boys Legit right? I was my daughter my daughter plays and she wants to wear pads and hit like everybody else But they don't the girls the rules are crazy. It's vastly different, right?

It's like a vastly different game because I was watching I was watching the college because the college girls was happening over the last couple weeks As well with Carolina congrats to UNC so I was watching it and it was like oh, this is a lot different And there wasn't it was like flag football versus real football. Oh, we'll get into that too. Jane She's got some thoughts on that. Jade's got some flag football versus real football. Oh, we'll get into that too. J.J. got some thoughts on that. J.J. got some flag football thoughts, A.J. Uh-oh. What position do you want to play, J.J.? He wants to play actual football.

I can't hit anybody. It doesn't matter. I think that's his hold. We'll talk about that. We'll talk lacrosse. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice about change of life. Take five! Truck Month is on at Chevrolet! Get 0% financing for up to 72 months on a 2025 Silverado 1500 Custom Blackout or Custom Trail Boss. With Custom Trail Boss's available Class Exclusive Duramax 3.0L Diesel Engine and Z71 Off-Road Package with a 2-inch factory suspension lift, you get both on-road confidence and off-road capability.

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Oh, okay. I thought that was the, and then I'll get it. Maybe I'll work for it. Excuse me, the hair looks phenomenal. Great review. Wow. I'm happy. Why, you didn't want that on TV?

You said, I'm not ready today. Oh, because you with new hairstyles does become a thing. You remember when he did them. Oh yeah. You remember that? This is his hat hair. I mean, this was just on, but yeah, it is, it is a pushback. What was your tweet after the, the debut of a new hair?

You ever wonder if anybody will notice when you change your hair? They do notice, I believe is what you. A lot of people noticed. Yeah, what was it? Super Bowl, it was the Super Bowl. Yeah, this hair, phenomenal. Oh, well Super Bowl. It was the super Yeah, this hair phenomenal. Yeah, thanks. I'm like a superhero working on it. I

Appreciate it. Are you gonna let it grow? I'm trying I'm gonna see yeah I mean we got obviously on air in the fall, so I got to see if it looks oh, yeah Hey time he's commentating games full slate CBS Full Slate, CBS, number two overall booth. Congratulations, dude. Yeah, Iain Eagle is obviously a pillar of sports commentary, but also very good at his gig. I think he's going to set you up to be fantastic. You wanted to call games? Yeah, I mean, I got the taste of it

in that Christmas Day game, Chief Steelers, and being in the stadium, being around it, Iain Eagle is literally one of the best in the business. He's incredible. He's going to make me look good, so... This hair is good for the booth. Yes, it is. This hair hair is good for the booth. Yes, it is. This hair is very good for the booth.

We'll get back to that after our conversation with a man who is recently a national champion, recently a record breaker. In our lacrosse source, Ciz are telling us that this guy is about to be. Very important call. I did not need to answer that. Wow. I do not need to answer well I do not need to answer people are making calls trying to get me to Madison Square Garden now you know think that is what happens whenever this takes place it's like I

don't even know if it's possible schedule it's possible isn't it don't you think it is I'm like I don't know a lot of calls I appreciate everybody doing that this man who's about to join us from what we were being told by our source says in the lacrosse world is gonna be I forget the number the fifth oh fifth ever number one pick in the PLL and the NLO fifth time ever where it'd be the number one pick this guy's style of lacrosse could fit in box lacrosse and field lacrosse I believe is the two different styles of lacrosse PLL Paul Rse. I believe it's the two different styles of lacrosse. PLL, Paul Rabel, big field, big field. They're running a lot. College lacrosse, same thing.

NLL, Chase Frazier. Chase, a lot of this, a lot of this, a lot of feels like, a lot of that, a lot of brawling. This guy's good for both because he's an absolute dog, a freight train, if you will, who has the skills that could only come from a family of lacrosse players that have committed their entire lives to the sport and he has been repaid mightily gonna win the Tawarathon yes has won the national championship ladies and gentlemen out of Cornell CJ Kirst how we doing thanks for having me hey how How you doing, bro? How we doing? Thanks for having me. Hey, how are you doing, man?

Where are you headed right now? And is that the trophy? How's it been? Has it been glued to your side since the moment you won it? Yup, there we go. Yeah, we're on the way to D.C. for the T'Wortan ceremony with my buddy Walker Walls, All-American Defender. a blast. How's it been as a national champion? I've been told from my source, Ciz, close to the Cornell camp that you guys have enjoyed this win and that you are kind of an old-school style team where

obviously a lot of work, a lot of grit, a lot of time and energy was spent into winning this national championship, not only for Cornell, but the Ivy League, you know, after the ACC kind of was running rampant with the entire thing. And then you guys enjoyed the hell out of it and had good team camaraderie around it. How's it been as a national champion CJs and everything that you would hope for it to be? Yeah it's been incredible. I mean we, Cornell alone hasn't done it in over 50 years and you know to bring the trophy back and you know that all the support and just seeing everyone over the past couple of days and knowing how much work everyone's put into it it's an incredible

feeling and it's special being able to hold this thing. It's a dream come true. You had six goals in the national championship that led to you breaking numerous records or even tying some records that nobody thought were ever going to be broken. Absolute dog. And also as we learned your story in your family story, your mom's an absolute beast. The mom of Kirst is an absolute beast over there. Can you talk about her a little bit and can you talk about your family being a lacrosse? Van a royal family in the cross as a whole Yeah, no, my mom's the best. She's our rock. She's

she's been there supported us every step of the way incredible motivator and You know all my brothers as well, you know, Connor Colin Cole Caden Give him being able to give him a hug after the game was was incredible feeling and you know I wouldn't be here without them so I'm super thankful for all them and all the support they've they've given me over the years. So your family fully committed to lacrosse did you guys play any other sports and when did you figure out like oh this is the one that Connor, Cole, Kaden, and CJ in, you said it. I was so close, yeah, anyways,

when did you guys decide that lacrosse was gonna be the sport that your entire family was gonna dominate? Yeah, no, we grew up playing everything, everything you can imagine. And then, you know, our dad played in college, he played at Rutgers. And then he coached us when we were little.

And, you know, all our buddies always loved lacrosse. And, you know, when we were little and you know, all our buddies always loved lacrosse and you know We were younger that that's what that's what we love doing and you know, that's kind of what we we gravitate Gravitated towards when we were little kids. So, you know, that's that's what we love and yeah, we always play lacrosse Rest in peace to your father. He's looking down watching you guys dominate the sport And I assume he's incredibly proud and happy with what the boys have accomplished. Your brother plays at Rutgers I do believe currently so obviously the family is being represented in the sport mightily. Go ahead AJ. Yeah CJ what can you take us back to those I know you guys had some battles

in the backyard I've read about where you guys just go beat the hell out of each other with those lacrosse sticks and everything. What was that like and how did that kind of propel you into the trajectory you're on? Obviously number one pick to the water dogs, everything that you've just done. Like how, when you look back, did that prepare you for everything going on? Yeah, a hundred percent. I mean, growing up having, you know, my older brother has never taken easy on me. You know, and then having Kayden as my younger brother and trying to, you know,

be hard on him, you know, that's what motivated me to get here. I mean, that's the reason why I'm here, playing with them and especially being that little kid dreaming about playing on a big stage like this and just competing with them and seeing how hard they worked. And I wanted to be just like them and super thankful that they taught me everything they know

and that's the reason why I'm here. So, I love them to death for everything that they've given me. I love that you continue to compete while getting your ass beat, you know, like that is, that's a little brother syndrome in an entire thing. And if you keep going, obviously the benefits will be there from all of it. Why do you think your style is good for the PL and the NLO? We looked it up. Only five people in the history of lacrosse have been the projected number one overall picks for both very different styles of play.

I do believe why do you think that is the case for your style of play? And have you always been like this? Yeah, I mean, box across the loan is probably, you know, the most physical, the hardest game there version of lacrosse there is that's out there. And, you know, being able to play that in Canada a couple of summers ago and, and learning how hard or how difficult that is. And then, you know, be able to, you know, play in college and, you know, learning the game at the highest level.

You know, you got to figure out ways to score. You got to figure out different ways to play. And, you know, you can't do it the same way. You got to bring a different version, you know, on game day. And so, you know, I think that's why the game is so great because you can be so creative you can have so much fun with it but you know there's so many styles out there that that could be successful and you know just trying to play the version that's best for me and that's just you know playing hard and trying to find the back of the net. Yeah I'll just score six

goals in the National Championship. Yep. No big deal. Biggest game? Okay. Need to play the best? You got it. How many times you guys want a touchdown? Walker Walls in the back in defense doing all-American. He's big-barking about it. Yeah, the big fellas. Big-barking. He's got one of those long sticks. Oh yeah.

He's got one of those long sticks. You know, we heard about the Curse boys beating the shit out of each other in the backyard. You should have seen what Walls was doing. He's chopping down trees with him. Chopping down the cops. Yeah, he was. He was chopping it down. His boy, he was really getting the house. Let's go. He's chopping down trees

Connor has a question for you boys. Yeah, CJ. Hopefully I don't screw up this name But I believe George Boyardee is a big story with the Cornell lacrosse team They kind of talked about it on the broadcast about how you guys when you're in the gym, you know working out You don't do 20 reps you do 21 Can you just talk about him and kind of the importance and the motivating factor of his passing 21 years ago? And also, did you get to speak to his family after the game? Was there anything with them once you guys secured the national championship? Yeah, George Boyardee is what Cornel LaCrosse is all about.

You think about all the years that, you know, everyone has put on the jersey and, you know, all the long red line that we say with all the alums and, you know, George is the ultimate teammate. You know, he's the best leader and motivator, everyone, anyone's ever been around. And, you know, he unfortunately passed away on our field, choke off field, you know, block, trying to block a shot. And, you know, for this to be the 21st anniversary of George and be able to get it done and bring this back to Ithaca is, is incredible.

And, um, you know, to get all those hugs and text messages now from all the alums, to see his family hold the trophy. Um, you know, it's just an incredible feeling and, you know, everyone who's ever had the opportunity to step inside our locker room and touch the sign, and, you know, be a part of this special program. You know, everyone is just so happy. And, you know, we did it for George, we did it for Coach Moran. We did it for Ian McAdany as well.

You know, we got it done. We brought it back. That's awesome story. I love where we pay tribute, you know? Good things happen. Now, La Crosse feels like a tight group, obviously still paying tribute there. And you know, I watched Vino celebrate this Cornell team all year and the alumni are kind of, I think they're always behind or have become fully behind

this particular team at Cornell. Feels like a beautiful thing. Couldn't imagine how tight the team is, especially with Walker Walls on. Come on back in. Yeah, come on in the back end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, boys, yeah, boys. And that entire thing. We don't know the ins and outs of the culture though,

so JJ has a question for you. This road trip looks incredible. Obviously you just won a national championship. You got your boy Walker driving. Who's on the aux? What's on the aux? And what kind of snacks do we got good question Yeah, no Walker's taking care all that

Just made a big pit stop at sheets picked up a couple things chicken tenders whatnot Do we do the MTO order yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll get we'll get Yeah walker knows the deal here where you from Walker Richmond, Virginia Okay, nice. I like that. You like sheets. So I'll let you know that strong sheets is obviously an incredible staple What are you playing on the aux brother? What are we listening to? I don't know what we're trying to do is put together a one of those power hours with the mixes from the commentators this weekend That's what some of the national champs do. That's what we really need to get out there

How has it been the last few days you boys have been celebrating there? I don't really know Cornell types. Sorry. I apologize What is the what is the celebration cuz I played I heard you guys played in for obviously Foxboro was Packed that That was insane. I assume the support from school was pretty wild. Has the celebration been awesome? I assume it has been. Yeah, it's been incredible. We got back to Ithaca after the game and we were able to rip it up with just

your teammates and then yesterday we had graduation. All the seniors parents were there and we had a little parade too, which was epic But it's been an unreal couple hours not the boys really haven't gotten much sleep because you know, we just been fucking Enjoy the travels enjoy the chicken tendies and Congrats on a historic season. Congrats on the national championship and we can't wait to see what you go on to do, brother. Oh, thank you. Really appreciate it.

You guys are the best. Let's go. Let's go. Daddy champs. Daddy champs. Yeah. Yeah. We see Jay Walker walls.

Did he say they're going to do a power hour with the commentary? That's pretty awesome. That's sweet. He said, I think they said other teams have done this in the past. We got to ask the Kavanaghs. Yeah, I wonder if they've done it He said, I think they said other teams have done this in the past. We got to ask the Kavanaghs. Yeah, I wonder if they've done it. Yeah, I wonder who created the idea.

Has that been passed along with the trophy? You get the trophy and on the bottom of it, there's like a little piece of paper. Hey, cool thing to do with this. Have a power hour with commentators. That's great. Power hour, right? That was never my gig.

It was a good time. I was a beer chucker. True. Gets the conversations rolling. I I mean you get to the back half Yeah, but also I did yeah, yeah. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. You gotta be you gotta be the play Edward 40 hands That's what I thought they'd be doing I didn't mind that cuz I can make things disappear quickly and I do have a active bladder So that was gonna motivate me quicker, but the issue is the more you put down quicker

It has to come out. So you gotta really have a mental battle there with every 40. What's the power? Power hours, like every. Shot of beer every 60 seconds. Yeah, every minute. And normally there's like a. Oh, shot. Shot of beer.

It comes out like six and a half. Yeah, six, seven beers. An hour? Yeah, one hour. Unless you do a double. And there's clever music where minute long, as soon as the song change, okay, take a shot. So a lot of people took a lot of pride in the list the playlist and entire thing

So they're using commentators calls. That's so sick. So like I could do my whole career. Oh, jade They could just shift into different Yeah, you know what I mean in the moment over now they might do it for your hair they might You know, out of those moments, they could've just shifted to different, turned down for once. You know what I mean in the moment? Now they might do it for your hair. They might. I'm telling you, this might be the best gauge.

I think it's going back to the hat. No, are you? You're not losing it. No, no, I'm not losing the hair, it's hat. I don't think you can go much longer though. Just, if you're gonna be on TV, you're gonna have those middle stages. This is my second day ever trying this.

So I got to figure it out. Have you thought about doing a ponytail in the booth? See? That will not happen. Exactly. OK. I mean, it is tough. To Pat's point, once the sides get to a certain point, it's pretty brutal.

Sanchez looks good when he had it. The flow out of the back, like some good lettuce. Yeah. Mark did have a good ponytail. He had good hair, strong hair. Sanchez? Yeah, Sanchez had a ponytail. He put that thing on the side sometimes too. This looks really good though I think it shapes your gigantic head right cuz you got to one of his big ones You know one of those big mullets large head that partially why I keep lifting because I feel like if I let my body get

Too small alien. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna look a little weird heads gonna be so bad Yeah, like an alien freak, but I think that's good hair right there I think I don't think you would look like a freak but I think like Connor implied there But I do think that looks good. I think I'd be good for the booth I'm excited for you to be in the booth too. That's a lot of travel bro. AJ isn't it? I mean AJ and I've called two three games together and my only thought is this is so much time Doing all this stuff you travel You travel four times a week. What are you talking about?

Yeah, but my... I signed up for this. You might be going to New York in the morning. Like, you don't know. Like, you travel. Probably in the afternoon if I had a guess. We're looking at this quick turnaround here. Got a lot of conversations going on.

Got a baby. Got a wife. Got a family. Got a business. Got a lot of things going on in that entire... I mean, next week. But I signed... Next week is absurd.

I don't even want to get into it. Next week's travel schedule? Absurd. But I signed up for it knowing that. Your thing was absurd. I don't want to get into it next week's travel schedule absurd But I signed up for it knowing that your thing was like I don't want to try remember because you're only doing like six Yeses or seven CBS because you didn't want to have to travel around for it. Oh, then you jump into commentating It's like that's a lot of it is it is yeah and ownership. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it I'm looking forward to it. I love being in the stadium like I love the NFL. I love the football I love being actually there. I love the audience. I love the players. I love so I'm really looking forward to so the Netflix thing Christmas was yeah, it was definitely an eye-opener

Yeah being because I haven't been back in stadiums really much like that and it was just there's a great vibe about it I just I really enjoy it and I love talking ball. I love having the great vibe about it. I just I really enjoy it and I love talking ball. I love having the elongated time to discuss the game and to talk people through what's going on and to talk them through the situations and what coaches and players might be thinking. I'm really looking forward to it. Have you been practicing? Have you been doing fake games? Oh I mean I did the one last year obviously I've been watching a ton of games. I sit down talk with the producers talk with Ian and we're going through it all but yeah I mean a lot of it comes down to making sure you know the rules, the situations, things like that.

Because the actual football stuff is A, stuff from your own head, but B, from conversations you have with coordinators. Do you already have your schedule? I mean, I know we're the second booth. So it doesn't come, you don't know your schedule until sometimes the week before. So the answer is no. Correct. Thank you.

I mean, I know when I'm going to be gone. I just don't know. Every week? a week before. So the answer is no. Correct. Thank you. I know when I'm going to be gone. I just don't know. Every week? What day are you getting in town? You get in there like Thursday or Friday. Sometimes it could be a long weekend. No.

Saturday. Saturday's been great. They're very good with me. Oh, good. We'll do Saturday and back out Sunday. I'm trying. They fall out all the time. I mean, it's awesome for us that you're in the booth, honestly,

because sometimes some of the booths are a little difficult. Yeah, shite, if you will. The reason why they're shite though. Give me your top things you like about a commentator and your top two things you don't. We have no idea, because if you might do something in your own way that's better than what everybody else is doing, it's hard to judge.

Sometimes I like somebody doing something, and then somebody else trying it, I hate it. So it's like, I think you've got to find it. If you care, if we feel like you care, I think for me at least, when I see like, hey, this dude loves ball, like I can you gotta find care if we feel like you care I think for me at least when I see like hey this dude loves ball Like I can I can get into it for sure that's why people rip on Romo now They loved him early on but then now he kind of just like freewheeling and people are like, oh this guy doesn't fucking prepare at All he does play golf all week and gets out there and that's the negative about Tony

Which are always is gonna be whenever you're calling games is always gonna be negative about you by the way Cuz you're gonna have to call the worst moment in a team's history So you're gonna be the one that's gonna be the voice over that you're gonna games, there's always going to be negative about you, by the way, because you're going to have to call the worst moment in a team's history. So you're going to be the one that's going to be the voice over that. You're going to be the one delivering the news to the fans that love team that, hey, they're fucking up here. As somebody that has pointed out some things

to a team in the city that I'm in, a team that I'm pretty close to, their fans got mad, their fans are still pissed, Colts fans are still mad at me for pointing out the very obvious about hey, this is not how a professional football team operates. Very obvious, very low level professional football conversation, like very, very low.

And they get pissed at me because I'm the one delivering that news. That is what you're signing up for. That is something that you're signing up for. So I think what you have to remain is confident because you're going to want change with what people are saying to you, but no matter how much is confident because you're gonna want change with what people are saying to you. But no matter how much you change,

you're gonna piss people off. Yeah, no doubt. Just think to your gun for sure, like Brady early on was not good. I think it was pretty clear. I don't think he was comfortable. Yeah, whether it was comfortability or just not knowing when things were gonna happen

and how much time he had, but like he just stayed Tom Brady and then by the end of it, he was really, really good at broadcasting. And you're JJ Watt, just like he's Tom Brady. Exactly, yeah. And AJ, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this or not, but it's your sport.

So like Gorms used to tell this to me whenever I was getting started. He's like, nobody can tell you how to talk about your sport. Like it's your sport. Who's gonna tell you your sport better than you? Well, this isn't an interesting thing to talk about your sport. Well If I think it's interesting it is like because it is your sport like you are one of the pillars in the history of the Game, you'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer. So whatever you find interesting about the sport

I think you should hit hammer home, but you shouldn't alienate the doofuses. You know, I mean like that is something Yeah, I'm very well aware of that. I think that being able to talk to the audience like your fan as well and being just as excited to AJ's point, the passion, the energy, but also interjecting that experience and that knowledge that you have and some of that insider ball. And that hair that you have, they're going to do a boot shots. Yeah. All I know is- Some boot shots on JJ's hair. Call a Steelers game. I'm going to need you to kill TJ. Yeah, if he know is some booth shots on JJ's hair. You call a Steelers game

I'm gonna need you to kill TJ. Yeah, if he deserves it, let's go talk can't just be like No matter what I say in that game I will be considered biased and no matter like there's there's definitely it's to your point every single game You're gonna get crushed on social media cross possibly from both sides and that's just the way that it goes I'm crushed well equipped to handle that now. Oh,. Oh yeah. Like you just look any commentators name. Yeah. Crashed. I mean, what you do. I mean, Pat gave away $2 million and got crushed. But I mean with you, like you actually brought it up before the Steelers chiefs game. You're like, I'm going to, you said it in the booth before the game started. Well, it's going

to be fun. Cause no matter what I say today like it's gonna turn out bad for me Because it TJ's point it and I'm not gonna act like he's not my brother like that Like I'm not we're not gonna pull wool over each other's eyes here. I'm not a moron like I know that Yeah, but what if you say yeah, this is why that contract issue is such a big deal. Yeah TJ's clearly not as comfortable Offseason was a little bit off. He's not that hurt. It's not off, I can tell you that. I was watching him train the other day.

He looks... Oh, okay, we got a little info. Okay, we got a little info, Edge. He looks good. He looks very good. Let's go to Hammer. Dodd, todd, todd. Tone, Teej looks good.

That's what we're hearing. He's training just like anybody else that could potentially be a Pittsburgh Steelers tone. Teage always looks good that's uh that's never gonna be a question I knew there was gonna be a little more uh more piss in his vinegar this offseason it felt like you know. Yep. Little more piss in his vinegar. In his vinegar.

Not vinegar in his piss. No yeah he has vinegar in the in the shelf. Yeah. And he takes that out. And he says let's have a big offseason pisses in it puts it right back up there. His piss no, yeah vinegar in the in the shelf Pisses in it puts it right back up there. You guys never heard that one before that's weird No, just because you know the season before he definitely should have won defensive player of the year and got robbed in that one Didn't one didn't win last year and you know there was it got a little bit loud over the last few games

So I knew Tejas gonna come in and get ready, especially, you know what? He's got Mace's back too. He, Mace and him had a good conversation this last summer and said, Mace said, I'm going to need you. And TJ said, I got you dog. Mason knew this last summer. He was going to be, you know, this, this current summer we're in. Oh, a couple. Summer yet.

Uh, Memorial day just happened this summer, brother. Okay. So you're saying two days ago. Yeah Mason and TJ had a conversation Yeah, I got an inside source TJ has goatee. Is that what we're into that would be cool goatee. Yeah Macy's got mustache now, but hadn't seen it. Oh, he's even paying attention at Pittsburgh Steelers at this point His brother's on damn tea. Who would you rather have JJ someone who's come in prepared? You know made flashcards for the team been there with the wide receivers and stuff like that or someone who's squirting squirt guns at Lollapalooza He's having a good time at a concert for Mike stud yeah eating bark

Now chewing bark Terry Bradshaw says after he hears this guy talk it makes him want to bark which maybe that's good for Maybe that's good for the health. We don't have protein. Yeah, teeth. We've not got what he's indicating. God is beneficial. But yeah, what do you think? About true and bark? No, which one?

Give me a jaw like David. Which hypothetical quarterback would you rather have? Now, the one that's at Lollapaloo is playing with squirt guns, is a first foul Hall of Famer. Very, very good. Probably going to make the team better, but you know, comes with some baggage maybe. What?

Fake? What's the baggage? He wants to wear number 12? Well. What? Fake? What's the baggage? He wants to wear number 12? Well... Oh, is that why Terry's pissed? I don't think TB's gonna go down easily in that entire thing. Terry Bradshaw won a lot for the city of Pittsburgh.

Four Super Bowls is my favorite. How come we never really hear about it? That's a great question actually. From Pittsburgh, grew up in Pittsburgh Have no idea why Terry Bradshaw is not more. Well seven was better. So Okay, but he's free to say that because of how I mean I was his generation too Yeah, but in Pittsburgh you would think that there would be like a hey Terry Bradshaw, you know that type of thing But instead it's like steel curtain

Everything to have back. You remember what Lynn used to do in swan? This guy's unbelievable. Yeah, like that Franco, Jay-Z, Immaculate. Everybody except the quarterback. I mean, that's what, four Super Bowls, right? And I mean, you can look at his highlights today in their age, like what guys are doing today.

He put his finger on the pop of that ball because his hands are so large I'm Hawks let alone the entire story of him be going on to be one of the biggest personalities in the history of sports Yeah, but instead Hey Spitzberg, I don't think he goes back. He might does he yeah, I don't know if he know that there was the end of his career There's a bit sour cuz he had an injury and you know He thought Steelers organization might not have done right by him and he didn't speak well a couple of times about,

you know, it's a, he didn't speak well. 40, 50 years ago. You know, Terry, Terry didn't say good things. People don't forget AJ. He paid and said good things on the way out. That was half a century ago. Him and Chuck Noll didn't really get along at the end, you know, it was the rumors. Chuckie Noll.

Chuck Noll. And Chuck Noll. Chuck Noll. I mean. And the beginning. Chuck Noll brought us four Super Bowls by the way. Sorry, Terry! Chuck Noll was at the wheel. We all know. Alright, okay, so there's a Tom Brady, Bill Belichick situation in Pittsburgh way back and just the generations of Yenzers are like We don't speak at Terry We like you just can't think of another like Akeman Cowboys Marino. He didn't win a super right He's on TV our Green Bay. No matter what he does. He's still royalty I won't say that right like I mean, I can't think another quarterback multiple champion. Yeah

With that type of relationship ladies gentlemen TB, thanks for what you did for, I wasn't alive, didn't really talk about it much, but the Immaculate Reception is right there in the airport. Thank you, Franco. Ball on the ground and all. No, no. Wow. You can put playing card underneath there, brother.

Yeah, I'm sure. All right, thanks, Tone. Really good work out of you today. Thank you. He's also somewhat forgetful. If you remember when we had, we were supposed to have him on the show at Super Bowl week and he spent the next like four days just walking around the convention center trying to, where the hell's Macphie's set at?

They couldn't find him is what we were told. Yes, correct. We had a camera set up at Radio Row because we decided not to go down to Radio Row because the year prior we had four people in a two foot by two foot space at Radio Row. So pointless to go down to Radio Row, but we'll set up a camera down there and see we beat the game two foot by two foot space and put a camera there. Then we can just stop people and they come by.

Got Terry Bradshaw tomorrow. Oh. Huge. Yes. Can't wait. Probably would have talked about this. Yeah. What we were just talking about in there.

And then five minutes before he's supposed to come on, we can't find Terry Bradshaw. What do you mean you can't find Terry's supposed to come on we can't find Terry Bradshaw What do you mean can't find her? He was here. We can't find him and then they were told that Terry couldn't find The camera so we thought there was chance. He was just wandering around radio. They found him later He's like out in the like of the middle of a field just like He's great on Fox has been so long when he traveled. I think he went to Japan.

Good actor. Yeah, he's. He showed his cheeks in that Matt McConaughey movie. Yeah. That why they don't like him. I think Pittsburgh would be cool with him showing cheeks. Definitely in a McConaughey movie.

Pittsburgh people ain't afraid. I genuinely we brought that up this morning. Like why is Terry Bradshaw not I let and everybody's like he did something. We'd have to talk to an old we'd have to talk to an old timer. That was legit. And then Tim Agnes comes in, I go, hey, how come Terry Bratch, he was good to me. Yeah, I like him.

I was moving somebody into the building that he worked at. He came down, him and his lady at the time, something Starbucks. And he said, hello, wish me luck, and he's always done right by me, and then Tim just, I don't know why we don't talk about him. Everybody, yeah, let's call Kaboli. Let's call Mark Kaboli. Kaboli will have an answer. You know Kaboli, how do you feel about Kaboli?

I don't know, well enough to have him. He baring you. James hates Mark Kaboli. Sounds like it. That is what I just heard there. I know he's a friend of the program So it's correspondent. It is 245. He might be on second nap Middle of second nap, I'm not sure

Second nap third lunch, you know, you might pull the right they're right, you know, they coincide Yeah, if he has a mayonnaise sandwich on deck, like ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, correspondent for our program, also a WWE columnist, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Bowley. Yeah, Mark. Mark, they said you were potentially on your second nap, third lunch. Nice to see you out at work. What are you doing right now, brother? Of course. I'm? I'm actually watching probably something I'm not supposed to be watching inside the Steelers facility so

flip the camera who is it? yeah flip the camera I don't think you should show us quick yeah probably shouldn't you're gonna zoom in yeah I think we're gonna lose I can't zoom in they're probably yelling at me now

don't zoom in you got it now you're good no closer to teeth closer to teeth. It's pretty close. Closer than that. I can't. That's where it goes. I can't quite see the nostril.

I can really see it. Nose hairs, yeah. I can't see the hairs. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. I can tell you who it is. It was Will Howard. Oh, Will Howard.

That's cool. We like seeing Will Howard, one from Will Howard, your teeth. Now get a chance to get up there, man. There he is. What? There he is. There he is. What the? There he is. Hey, thank you, your teeth, and now get a chance. There he is. There he is. There he is. What the?

There he is. Hey, thank you, Kaboli, for the boots on the ground. What that baby will? All right, keep it down, keep it down. Hey, quick question for you, Mark here. Not about Will Hart or the current Steelers team or TJ Watts situation with JK being here. Anyways, Kabols, hey, how come Terry Bradshaw's

never talked about, like, with the Pittsburgh Steelers? We were trying to figure it out, we couldn't find an answer. We, like, me, Toe, Nick, we're just like, I don't know, like, he did something. That's what everybody always says. He's like one of the most famous NFL pundits, won four Super Bowls in Pittsburgh. I think anytime they show highlights, obviously, it's Pittsburgh Steelers highlights. And it's like, I don't think I remember anybody talking about him growing up like Terry Bradshaw is a guy that we love around here. Why is that? Well you have to be old first of all. I think people still talk about him, but you have to be

of a certain age group to talk about him in this city. For some of the actually people in the city city. For some of the actually people in the city really didn't appreciate him not showing up for I believe the Chief's funeral way back in the day as well. So some people might not like him as that. But a lot of people still believe that he is maybe the best Steelers quarterback of all time, even though Ben came in and probably super surpassed that a little bit. So I don't know if I'm answering your question here right now, but I think it's more of a regional thing here. He probably should be getting more publicity than he did just with the four Super Bowls in six years.

Yes, especially in Pittsburgh, like the amount of, I don't wanna say autograph signings, but you paint like everything that you would think would happen, never really saw him back around. We'd like to let Terry know, Hey, thanks for what you did for Yenzer's back in the day, buddy. Oh yeah, T. Not great at not showing up.

Maybe there was a scheduling conflict or who knows what the case is, but all right, Caboli, we appreciate you. Tell Will Hart, we appreciate him. Yeah, I think he's in a little bit of a meeting right now, so I can't scream at him. So I'll do it. That's smart.

Smart, smart. Thank you, Cabool. Is Aaron there? Is Aaron Rodgers there? I heard he's not showing up at OTAs. Oh, he's not on team. He's not at OTAs, but apparently he was staying at a really cheesy hotel

in the strip district over the weekend. So they followed him tolerated radio stations. Okay. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Bollie. Thanks for that. Thanks, Mark. Cheesy Hotel down in Strip District. Great district. Strip District's very nice.

That was the rumor. Someone apparently saw him at a hotel staying in a strip over the weekend. At a Cheesy? What does that mean? I think maybe a not so nice hotel. Probably a hotel. He a problem at sleazy. Yeah. Oh, so he just said cheesy They meant sleazy down the strip is there I thought they read the strip Yeah, but they got that indoor putt-putt bar that place is sweet that place was sweet. Yeah, cool soccer field there

Really? What is it in our stadium? No No river on the hides. Oh, you're talking about North Shore over there. Hi mark. I think to strip district I didn't I was just saying they have a cool soccer field. I didn't believe that it was real the first time That's down station scare. Yeah, dude Station scare you're talking about not North Shore Okay, let me tell you about stations here. All right used to be the greatest haunted anything in the history Okay, you go down there was like a state fair, but it was haunted.

They had this clown that they would put a microphone in front of. Greatest shit talker in history. Do you remember this guy, Nick? This clown that used to shit talk? He should be a professional. I don't know what he does. This clown, as soon as you walk in,

some sort of athletic feat, he's sitting at the top of it, creepy looking, obviously, incredibly creepy. Chirping, talking shit to every single person in there then obviously got a haunted house down there you got a sign waivers they're gonna touch you mmm yep yep yep one two I was never allowed to go for cuz that reason now they turn inside a waiver parents would not coach wouldn't let me go you want me getting stabbed by one lunatics down it yeah which they would try to get you because their goal was to make you scared and if you weren't scared from a punch or maybe

A shoulder there's a chance they're gonna get you That would scare you a little bit coach then would have to go kill somebody again, you know, you didn't want to do that Okay, go check kill anybody you remember when station scarehead one of the greatest cowboy bars country bars of all time What was that place called? Something Saloon? Nick? Saddle Ridge? Saddle Ridge, yeah. There it is, not a saloon at all.

Saddle Ridge was the name of the place. I mean Tequila Cowboy? Tequila Cowboy is a good spot. That's on the North Shore. That is not on Station Square. Station Square used to be a great spot. Not everybody wanted to go as much as me. I always wanted to end up at Station Square.

I wanted to go to Station Scare every week. Our last St. Patty's Day there, you wanted to go as much as me. I always wanted to end up at Station Square. I wanted to go to Station Scare every week. Our last St. Patty's Day there, you wanted to go so bad. So bad. Get me down to Station Scare, because they got that country boy. With that homeless guy. Well, brought the homeless guy out with us. He had a great St. Patrick's Day,

probably the greatest holiday he's ever had in his entire life. Last one, right? Don't doubt it. Nick got left on the curb for the homeless guy. That's not true. Nick was with another guy. Yeah, homeless guy needs a ride.

Sorry, Nick. That's not true. We actually didn't get in the cars. That's not true. Nick was with another guy. Yeah, homeless guy needs a ride. Sorry, Nick. That's not true. We actually didn't get in the car. That's tough. Cars came outside. We chose not to get in cars. We're gonna hang out with this homeless guy. Nick didn't get the message. Oh man. Nick was a different group. He was a different time. It was a different thing going on. The group he was with, I wasn't signing up for. How did the homeless guy earn the spot? He's right there in the corner, has signs saying, knocking lights for beer. And I say, you got it. All the beer you want today, buddy.

Come on, join us. Their buddy Joe Hadley of Joe Hadley's Rondo Water. Nah, that is not true. Anyways, Station Scare used to be a great spot. North Shore is a great spot. Station Scare is still good. They got that stadium down there strip district though Aaron Rogers is hanging out in strip district I guess that would be a place that Aaron Rogers would go to the strip district certainly believable Hey, Jay, why is he just he's just hanging around Pittsburgh, but he doesn't want to sign with Steelers

I don't understand. We just want to see this thing Yeah, I guess so. I guess he was he really just checking everything out I don't know that is there's any like video footage of him at the strip district Call her a ratio just checking everything out, I don't know. Is there any video footage of him at the strip district? No, that's for sure. Call it a radio show. Call it a DV, he said he's seen Aaron Rodgers this weekend. Maybe he shows up at OTAs. Then he doesn't show up at OTAs for a team

that he's not signed to, and people say he's not even at OTAs. And then the reason why he didn't sign with the team is because he doesn't want to go to OTAs. It's a wonderful little story. Speaking of stories, anytime JJ Watt joins us, we like to have the people ask the questions that they've been yearning to ask JJ

since the first time they've seen him. Maybe it was hard knocks when he took over. Maybe it was when he was scoring touchdowns. Maybe it was when he was creating a Hall of Fame career. Maybe it was when he debuted a new hairstyle, whether at the Super Bowl or right here today. This one. Yeah, top notch. A plus. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for hashtag ask Jage. What do you say? Hashtag ask Jage. Nailed it.

How many people call you Jage on a day to day? What'd you say? Two. Okay. Let's go to some hashtag Ash, just me? More today, yeah. Me and Teach. Yeah. What's Derek call you? Jade. That's two. Well what do I call you? Jade. Told you I haven't seen them today. So you're the first, this crew is the first one to call me Jade today. Okay. How many people in your life call you Jade's? Generally two, since I'm here today, three. What about the wife though? Wife doesn't go, Jade! She does not call me Jade.

No, that'd be great. How about dad? I seen dad, dad looks like he can hammer some beers. Oh yeah. Hammer some beers. He's never had about 40, 50 beers. No, no, not a big beer guy. He's not a big guy.

Go get me another fucking beer. He's not? No. He looks like hard nosed good. I could see it. Yeah, I could see it. Pack a box in a 18. He's not? He looks like hard nosed good. He does not drink? Is he smoke weed? No. Diet code firefighter. Firefighter?

Okay, so that makes, I'm so sorry. Now granted, in fact, he's a firefighter and doesn't drink. I think that is a little surprising, but also thank you for your commitment to serving your community, Mr. White. He doesn't say, Jage, get over here. No, no, he actually does say Jage.

Yeah, he does. Okay, I'm happy we got the bottom. Yeah, he does. I don't know if he's a firefighter, but he's a firefighter. But also thank you for your commitment to serving your community. Mr. What he doesn't say change get over here He actually does say jade. Yeah, he does. Okay. I'm happy we know the ball He does I don't like that. I gotta do investigative journalism with every fucking question. Okay. I just want to let you know that What do people call you? Yeah Patty Patty K Patty Mac. I like Patty Mac is cool Before I've been called Patty Mac before P Mac Patty Mac Happy Macafi a lot people call me Macafi a lot Stadium MC is actually for my entire rookie. You're coming Macafi, which is really cool. No way your rookie

Oh wait Well, first of all, they call me Adam Vinatieri because I was kicking off and they didn't know it was me They called me Adam Vinatieri. That was pretty cool. Could little pop in some good places I was a Hall of Famer out there actually gave credit to Adam for one of my onside kicks, which is sweet Actually think about I'm getting called Adam Vinatieri and then other places would call me McCaffey I think Houston did it one time in the punt number one. Yeah, Patrick McCaffey. I'm like fucking a yeah I made myself here did not PM is a new one. Never been called PM.

PM's pretty fired though. PM's good. What are you gonna call me, Jage? I like Patty Mack. I think I'm gonna go with that now. I like Patty Mack. Is every conversation we have you're gonna say Patty Mack?

Should I? I think it's gonna be tough to commit to. The people that try to call me Patty Mack, then they realize difficult one is a lot. Yeah, I thought would it annoy you or would you be on board? I'd be cool with it But I think you would feel annoyed saying it. Okay, you know what I mean? Let's give it a shot I mean if it fails it fails. All right sounds good. I've had him act Hashtag ash gauge let's get to him. This one's from Jacob slice at slice 28

Hashtag ash gauge any hunter wipes shits lately. Official AJ Hawk told me to ask you says Jacob. I don't know if Jacob is potentially AJ's neighbor or maybe his burner, but we'd like to know if you've potentially just rubbed your cheeks dry lately. I mean, I think AJ and I obviously have, we're on one side of this and you somehow are on the other side of this. But I think we represent most normal people out there

that yeah, every now and then once, maybe twice a year's a there's a messy situation hundred wipes that was just you saying well I mean that's just that that's insane you mean like 50 there's a lot I mean yeah I don't know I don't count many how many we don't count one it's it's a significant situation over 33 I have a question for you cuz I'm for that's g here we go here we go five son of a bitch six seven eight yeah actually takes longer cuz you got to get it off the spool and you got to do that's only one tenth of what you said no you're spending that much time wiping your ass after you poop there There's a once in a year situation maybe after a heavy Thanksgiving. Beans and tacos or something, you know. That just gets real wild. Gets real out there and it's tough.

But no, I would say the standard and Dude Wipes has helped significantly. Learned how to use a bidet, which is cool, because that helps significantly. Yeah, those are a real deal. Big, big fan. If you can afford a bidet in your house, you do the bidet, which is cool, because that helps significantly. Yeah, those are a real deal. Big, big fan. If you can afford a bidet in your house, you do the bidet in your house. Yeah, it took me too long to figure them out. There was water going a lot of different ways,

and I didn't know how to operate it. Yeah, are you like AJ? Are you sitting down to pee too with the bidet, so it's coming in coming out? Never done that. Never done that. Yeah, you have. No.

You see Slater a bidet? The bidets are crazy. No. You go out to Vegas or something, you end up in a suite. Yeah, that was have. AC Slater or bidet? The bidets are crazy. You got the Vegas or something you end up in like a suite? Yeah, that was a drinking fountain. Well I think that's what James was doing at the beginning. Did it sound like you? No, I didn't understand because like you gotta, it's hard to turn it on. You can't turn it on before you get on it because then it sprays, it sprays. Geez. I don't know, it's a wild situation. I now have one of those cool Japanese toilets. Those are awesome.

What? Like the buttons. Those are awesome buttons Yeah, what are you talking about? Like it's got a remote control A lot of different shit with the toilet Hey you won't know I'm rich but there'll be signs did they take it? Got a Japanese Bidet I believe is what that is got his own remote opens and closes on its own Seats heated as you're walking up to it. The seat opens it's heated and it pre sprays the bowl It's I don't have any clingers in there

So do you have a video game controller where you can move it up and down? Yeah, you can do I mean you can move it up and down you can choose does it talk this the strength of it No, it does not speak to you. I have seen ones recently, which I don't fully understand They'll analyze What's going in? Oh, yeah, it'll analyze your shit The poop is in the gator right? I thought you'd have one by now Is it sifting through there? I don't know what you know

I assume you have Come out from the toilet Poop though is something you can get a lot of like tells from right? Look into that if it's fucking dissecting my poop and tell me what exactly is in there. You also need to think about having this Japanese toilet that's coming in here. Yeah we gotta get you one. I mean one here would be I feel like necessary. No. Past, past. Not like one is in here. Nope. Too expensive. There's a question, no not only that it's just I don't know if you understand what happens with that guy talk out there. Okay? Talk destroys bathrooms, not just toilets Entire bathrooms the guy shuts it down out there. You see him. He looks small Yeah, but you've been NFL locker rooms like now, you know what it's like. Nothing like this man full pimento loafs

Yeah, just shuts it down like shots like they cannot like a hippo Just shuts it down like shots like they cannot like a hippo So what do you I'm curious now in this situation, how is that handled you guys make him do it? Yeah, he's a plumber that comes on now. He's plunging that thing. Yeah He used to just leave him plugged until he got no Yeah, we have people spilling stuff all over the thing you say him as well potentially him he's part of the crew You talk about an NFL game day like an out two hours before kickoff That is one of the worst yeah clear out about as good as you can like as bad as you can have if you were to Add him to one of those they'd say talks here

Let's go to the next What's that it blows that was yeah hippos So you understood what he meant? Talks unbelievable. He tried to take down a plane with his ass one time. You remember that so yeah private time first time That was yeah hippos. I just really need so you understood what he meant. I did talks unbelievable Yeah, he tried to take down a plane with his ass one time you remember that so yeah I'm a private time first time you got a private plane no march right to the back no yeah first time you got us You can't man. You got to bite that bullet. You just hold on yeah till you land. How long was the flight? for no

He was thinking I can't do four hours with this thing in And once it got out of him, I think everybody understood, like, how was that even inside of you? It has to be another human dump. Did it make it down the, like, the airplane, the airplane toilet? It might help him. Actually, he started to nose dive. Damn.

Damn. Excuse me. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, it came up like a fighter. You got to let the pilot know before you can adjust. So you fly on those big planes, we don't get a chance to do that. Is there a toilet in the front of the plane

where you, the plane you fly on as well? No. Okay. We had a guy, I'm not like you. We got lucky to be on one of these planes and we had a co-pilot dump in the front one. So we had the back thing kind of shut,

front was kind of locked away and Poop just started like trickling back the door We start smelling poop so we sir like somebody ripped ass and it was like no actually didn't actually didn't it was like well Who pooped back there go wake a couple people up in the back. Hey, did you dump? No, no, I've been asleep Okay, somebody pooped in here. So obviously we open a thing copilot standing there. Okay, you just dump No But it was like he certainly did that guy had a good I mean that was yeah pungent Oh, yeah, look over the whole plane did 30 45 minutes too because it was just seeping underneath our door into our nostrils

As we're playing you care. Do you know how to play that game? You care? Yeah Not not no not proficiently. Let's get back to the game, Wisconsin into our nostrils as we're playing euchre do you know how to play that game euchre yeah uh not not no not proficiently let's get back to being in wisconsin though and you don't play not that no cribbage i know cribbage i think they're very similar i don't think i know cribbage i don't know harry potter played no it's quidditch cribbage is with a board yeah there's a board you got pegs Yeah, there's a board you got pegs Yeah, keep keep going I play cards. Yeah, play pegs Let's get to a hashtag ash jade question great. Thanks, Patty Mac

That's so cool. I could tell he's already losing Steve. Yeah, you know, I just gotta remember No, I have to have to remember at see dives CD Hey, you know D? Uh, no. I'm catching uh, I'm downwind of a lot of things here and I'm feeling the I'm feeling the wind. Yeah, right dude? He's all doped up.

Oh, this guy's on CBD right now. Alright, let's get to the Ash Jage please. What are your hopes for Burnley FC in their return to the Premier League? What's the key to their success? Hashtag Ash Jage. That's a good question. It is a great question.

We are obviously hoping to break the run of three up, three down over the last two seasons. Very difficult to do. The Premier League is obviously extremely, extremely difficult league with continuing funds being pumped in at extremely high levels, but we are extremely excited about our team Really proud of the season that they had and I think Scott Parker did a great job and our defense is phenomenal so hopefully we have a Defensive stalwart and some good counter-attacking put some goals in your goal He's not gonna be able to stand on his head for two months straight like he did this last time. He's incredible, man He's a great great player great kid and I've always said it and I'll keep saying it

He will be England's number one keeper someday. Is he still on a contract with you guys? Yes Can we loan him for TST? No, we already got our goalie. No, we don't you cannot have any of our players for TST Yeah, cuz they're gonna make the fucking team. Yeah, we'd have to try they'd have to try out You're not even on the team this year. Oh you look at the Rasta. I'm on the Rasta. Did you register yourself? They were very serious about registration there I don't know. Are you registered? We're registered. I got a general manager. Are you registered? Are you guys registered? We're back on our purges dude. What are you talking about? There's rules sounds like if you're not registered on the roster, you can't play

I'm registered on you might do it on purpose so you don't have to play Do you want to see our roster? Is that what you want to do? Is it say Patty Mac? Let's see the roster. I'd like to see the roster. Ladies and gentlemen our official roster. Holy shit. What is that for? Concaifa graduating class of West Virginia 2025 As you see there top left corner, this is ridiculous Pat McAfee on The roster once again I am honored to have made the roster of this concave a team this concave a team is going to continue to

win and continue to succeed at TST Jeff Cameron I've good news for the rest of TST I don't believe you will be playing he suffered an injury and trade what much like myself damn yeah this is a lower body mom was an upper body nonetheless Jeff common will be in attendance. Don't worry about that. Grella back on the squad after a lot of questions. That's bullshit. But Czech go. I'm out. Fuck Grella. I'm out. No, no. Grella was good. Grella was trying to run up the price. He was trying to extort you for cash. What kind of prices you paying? He was trying to go to Burnley. What kind of prices you paying? Don't you worry about that. Our roster is happy. Our roster is not. No, I'm telling you right now. You got 45 people up here

This is a locker room mutiny waiting to happen. I'm not getting enough minutes. I'm not getting no minutes Why is he on the field? I'm not on the field. That's a mutiny Tournament brother Freshly last time this one's gonna be way we didn't have one We were just fighting each other who were playing our best players were fighting there was How'd they get through it, Gumpy? Yeah, they figured it out. Through team chemistry.

Yeah, and with a guy like Drew Ruggles on the team. Everyone loves an underdog, Gumpy. I see your hat says everyone loves an underdog. What kind of underdog? You guys are paying your players more than Ohio State is. What do you mean? What are you talking about? Bournemouth has players that are fucking under contract.

They're cheating! What? There's teams openly cheating. And listen, if you to call us Ohio State, cool. Cause there's a Texas out there, there's an Oregon out there. And what did Ohio State do last year? Oh, they won the fucking title. Thanks for the compliment, Judge. All right. We'll see what happens. Listen, you gotta pay a guy like Red Boots. Otherwise he's going to go to the next high spitter. There were some damn good teams last year. That Jamaican team was fire.

Very good. We had that first game. That was tough for us we have learned a lot we're still learning how to play yeah rules like just learning period how to play the game Richard Costanzo currently college coach for George Mason yep Western Pennsylvania dog one of the first guys out of Western Pennsylvania to make it into like the ODP world which is Olympic Development Program he's a year older than me. I love that dude. He is a grinder. He is gonna run people to... our team this year, you know last year we had a lot of older guys you know, hey let's do one for a gipper here. This is TBT, this is Throwback Thursday at TST. This year we got a lot of guys that are in great shape. Who is Philip II? So that's the thing about Philip II. He's goalie

Goalie of the year I think in MASL last year or two years ago can play with his feet. So that's a big deal Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So instead of having to substitute meet Stefan me a Tovich right there who's giving he's talking to you, JJ He's talking to you JJ. Here's quiet. We're not quiet your mouth. We're Quiet your fucking mouth. That's what me and Tovich. Quiet your mouth. That's what he's saying there. Swag. I mean. He's not going to have to play goalie this year whenever it gets to target goal time. And last but not least, the Indianapolis Outlaw. Yeah, obviously.

The kid. Thomas Sonner. Yeah, Sonner's back. I don't think that is the best photo of Thomas Sonner. He looks more like a linebacker. That's what he does. And he scores he plays like he scores goals Mike Foss looking to get a lot more minutes this year Hopefully been training quite the forehead on him. Love it You got a head the ball you got to put the ball It took up the move up to the next screen. Yeah, he does have an eight head there You're right. Yeah, Jesus Pacheco is a problem, you know Gordo obviously back to do his thing

Baby, when you see him play you go that guy's run hard. Yeah, high knees. Emmanuel Ledesma. Oh my god Mm-hmm. And it looks like a UFC fighter. He looks like beat the shit well, that's the thing about our team as you know, we set the tone and we win games. And uh- You didn't win it last year. What? You're talking like you're the defending champ. What a lot of games.

It's not gonna rock. You're talking like the defending champs. We had no idea we were signing up for it. Quarterfinals, brother. First round at it. Quarterfinals, congrats. Raise a banner. AFC finals.

Well, we raised a banner when we beat your ass. We thought about it. Oh. I'll tell you what, if we could raise a banner, we would've if we were finalists concave for put it up 6 1 against Burnley FC Have you ever did you know what you were signing up for last year? Nope, not at all mean either I know you think that Foss guy with that brain under there knew what he was signing up for Whenever we had no way no, but now you think Tony me all I knew what the fuck was going on. No, nobody Did I don't know if many would have signed up if they did tab was scouting?

I think more people signed up cuz I'll greatest I need a team to root for this year. So I'm concave. Uh, let me tell you I'm open for bidding on Don't make him make you do it In our first track yeah great But unlike you we're going back. Yeah yeah we're trying to conquer the beast it is TST and we got a great great roster this year you talk about everybody being upset about playing time sure that's gonna come we want that to come you're talking about guys maybe being upset about not taking a free kick maybe somebody else takes a free kick who's definitely not gonna score a free

kick he's just gonna kick the ball out of the stadium now we got two other people upset about who's not taking a free kick maybe that does cause a little drama we learn from those things. And whenever these fights start, that's when the culture takes over, brother. And Conkafe already has a culture. We like to have a good time. Great time. Some of the team more so than the other.

Miss you, Ed Speed. DJ Ed Speed is going to be missing. He was on the aux cord. He didn't make the team this year. Kind of bummed about that. He got hurt too. Speed was great the aux cord. He didn't make the team this year, kind of bummed about that. He got hurt too. Speed was great before the game. He was great.

I will say. He might be on another team, maybe he should be. He was our DJ, so we're going to have to figure out who's going to take that role. Maybe Tab Ramos, coach. I've been hearing Tony Miola and Tab Ramos have been actually watching like film for the last couple months on this. Of course. Let's fucking go! Like trying to. The boys also had a training camp.

Yeah, they did that last year. No! Last year was vastly different. Nobody knew what they were fucking signing up for last year. I thought you said you did a Florida training camp. They did a Florida training camp. Yeah, they took a day off. Oh, so they did do it. Yeah, but nobody knew what they were doing. Now we have like a concentrated goal. Tony Miola always brain wrapped around with TST sevens is Bob

problematic for everybody else don't be surprised when Comes a million dollar program I will be surprised Well, don't happily Happily surprised well just follow along and watch what Gordo does out there watch what D Hoff does Mario Alvarez back on the squad Did gump have any possibility of making the playing team? He is no. Yeah, he might play no No chance you should see him in warm-ups change. I know that's what I'm saying Like he's got some skills gump where there was there any lobbying at all you were trying to get out there

I've loved it a bit. I could be out there. We don't know yet trying to get out there? I've lobbied a bit I could be out there we don't know yet. Is that legal? Are you registered as a coach? I'm registered to play. We had some registration battles last year so I know. He's a coach. Are you guys using your ESPN powers to just? Definitely we tried to change the time of one of the games we thought we had that type of sway uh-uh they went the complete opposite direction and I was not happy

About it. I was like we fucking needed it this time, but we don't care. Scatter it the other time I'm like I feel like we're doing a lot for this. Wow, I feel like you're doing And they're like no the tournament has to remain tournament and after talking to them after the tournament I have massive respect for the people that run this they have a lot of passion a lot of everything behind this They're trying to keep this as a great tournament TBT the basketball tournament obviously everybody knows about TST four times the size like the amount of people tickets sold everything area TST is like very this has become a very very you're a massive player in that well we were only there last year yeah

so it's not crazy but concave is gonna become a mainstay in TST. I think. Especially if we have the success that I think we're gonna have this year. Look at Meat. Yeah. I mean just look at the eyes of Meat. Meat saying, there's a million dollar prize up for grabs? Okay. Shut your mouth JJ. Shh. Shh. Shut your mouth, JJ. You remember Zat night? You remember fucking bumping into him a couple times I do shoulders still hurt. Yeah, you still got a little bruise like I do against Gunther. You guys are watching from the sidelines Yeah, that's because we're part of the arena. Mm-hmm man in the arena. Did you have any assists last year? No, do you have any goals last year? No, I was you left with completely zero on the stat sheet. Yep

Okay, sweet. I had to highlight of with completely zero on the stat sheet? Yep. Okay, sweet. I had the highlight of the fucking tournament with the assist that I had. You talk about man in the arena. I agree with that. I was in the arena. I agree with that, I do.

Yeah, so check that off the box. We're both talking about Mullen Man over there. What are you talking about? He was in the trenches with the boys at night. Yeah, we were part of the fucking concave of crazies, maybe you didn't even know. Thank you. Yeah, equipment managers, athletic trainers,

there's a lot of people that go into the success of a team. They're part of that. David Aethels. Yeah. You called him a fat ass, actually. Yeah, I remember. He was. Equipment managers athletic trainers. There's a lot of people that go into the success of a team. They're part of that Yeah, you caught him a fat ass actually He was kind of going back that way, but it's Maybe should hang out with tone and Johnson. I know it's a bad idea. Be careful man. Next week, I mean that donut cart is going to be there again. And I'm going to be outside. I can't wait to enjoy it. I didn't get a chance to enjoy it last year. It looked great. Good coffee. It did look good. I'm going to have, just so everybody knows,

I will have cleats on. I will have a uniform on just in case. We started losing guys pop pop pop pop pop pop. We're up seven you got plenty of them that graphic I keep staring at it. That's a lot of fuck. That's a lot of How many guys on it once so you're like 20 on the roster? Okay on the field 7v7. Yeah, I Can't wait. How are you can't even do that? It's it's 20 minutes running clock. We ran out of gas last year, brother You ever seen money ducks full line changes The Wednesday night team movie of all time D2 Well said coach. Did you ever see it? Some of these people say I have not seen the movies that you promote is if you've seen

What are you talking? I'm the opposite I tell people that I openly there's movies that I haven't seen that I should have seen where some of you like what? mission Braveheart what you've never seen Braveheart? So now at this point. Baby Private Ryan. What? Wow. I know I'm telling you these are on my list. I gotta get them. How long have they been on your list? Sounds like this is a thing. A long time. It is a long time. So you're just keeping this as a thing so you can have a thing? No. I just I. Like hey what's my movie thing? There was a while where I was like, all right, I will save Braveheart now for a big game. And then I didn't, because I'm there. I got to watch it.

I'm watching Game of Thrones right now for the first time all the way through. How is it? Really good. What season are you on? Last one. Wow. Congratulations.

It's really good. There was one bad season in there, but the rest really. I heard the last season's a bad one. There's Starbucks stuff. I've heard the ending is really bad. That's what I've heard. I'm pretty sure the last season has aged better than the initial reaction Everybody at the beginning was just calling this writer sellouts and everything saying they mailed it in their Starbucks cups here and this is happening

That stuff. Yes, I've heard the last episode like I've heard people call the last episode one of the worst episodes I think that's a little overblown in the time for sure And it also doesn't help that the fatso who wrote the thing, you know Just kind of pushing off how it's supposed to end. So those these guys were like, hey, well, okay We got to end it how we're gonna end it. I'm looking forward to it. We're close. We're close George RR Martin, you know this guy every single year Books could be finished in six months and then they check in they're like hey fat So you haven't fucking written anything in the last 18 months? So is it still coming out in six months and well, you know, I had to go back and alter a few scenes

Well, there's like a thousand characters, right? Yeah, but you know the last book came out in like 1998 Yeah, yes, he got paid mightily and they you want me to tie this whole thing together, huh? Okay You know more money he'd make if he just finished the goddamn thing I'm definitely in that stage right now where all of a sudden all the characters are interacting with each other or shit. You guys came together quick. Yeah. I just did Breaking Bad and Better Skulls All. Great shows. Great, great shows. And the problem is George RR Martin did this video game Elden Ring. He did like the story design for it and people aren't happy about like him doing shit like that before finishing

What's this guy's problem? He wants to focus on something else. That's massively successful. That's what I'm saying It what I mean Eldon rings like one of the biggest video games of all time boom So held in ring. Yeah, you play video games hashtag ashtray No You know, I don't watch any of the stuff you were talking about either Better call saw I'm breaking bad. They're very good breaking bad I think is a great show of all time and then better call saws pretty cool. Yes Really better than saved by the bull

But different John good points I saw somebody the other day say we need to bring shows like that back I think it was Nate Nate Barghazi. He was talking about how like we need shows like King of Queens we need some of those just like Everyday sitcoms that you just watch and feel good. Why doesn't Bargatze write it? I feel like he's the genius that you might be I think he was talking about his production company and the type of stuff He wants to be so smart. He's great. It's awesome Tom's the girl just put that out Tom's the girl just put four episodes out there. Good old wholesome fun, like old school. You're talking about bad thoughts?

Yeah. I don't know if that's how it's being marketed. I had to talk about it on Monday Night Raw because Mystic Rick and the Machine were there right behind the desk. What a moment. What a moment for it all. Dragon Lee fucking dives front flip out of the ring

all the way across our desk and you just see Tom Segura's eyes just like what the fuck it was his first ever wrestling. Oh really? Event ever yeah cuz he used to be anti-wrestling. Big time. And then that was his first wrestling event and I think he was just mind blown by it all. I think Tom Segura people like that whenever you get it have you ever been to a live? No I was just gonna say I want to come to one. When you get to one and you watch it you just take yourself home her street this is the most absurd should I start with the wrestlemania or

should I start with a introduction is there an introduction start with wrestlemania you fucking start with wrestlemania all right yeah you won't know all the stories going in but they'll say show you a video package it'll give you at least enough of like a catch-up and then you'll be able to get right into it just the app app. Yeah. Obviously the athleticism is insane. The things that they're doing right in front of you is wild, completely exposed by so many people. Like what they're doing is insane. Can't miss a beat. Somebody could potentially die. But then all the shit

that just happened or it's it's insane. It's Kirk. You gotta take it for what it is. It's professional wrestling. You're watching sports entertainment here Yeah, just kind of got to escape a little bit Kirk Carpenter. Yeah, Kirk Carpenter went to WrestleMania and his whole his face the whole time was Yeah, legit. He was sitting right over here. I could literally see it and just then he would look over me It's like yeah, this is just this is gonna happen. Yeah, this is the whole time. I mean you get the one Yeah, I want to see it. I'm sat with Triple H at the Arnold classic years back and like tried to get into it But I have never I've never gotten into it. I think it's partially because I've never seen it live I think seeing it live and understanding I still have that whole thing in my head of like I

Don't want to say it aloud but like what I? Mean I just I have that in my head So I just don't say hurts that you don't want to do it that you get bruised For two three weeks. I don't doubt that it hurts. I don't doubt that there's a lot going on there I'm just telling you what I from my perspective on it. Yeah, I'm just saying I don't know what your perspective is What you're yeah Kind of being negative about everything I'm not being negative about I want to go see it. I want to experience it I'm gonna go on KFA. I mean you guys what's your deal?

Do you should just honor your Kings? We're in Premier League brother. You're down in the watch McCullough. We're back on our perch. What's your thing that you can't get over? What Dump that please it is real those who are great are rewarded. Yeah, no doubt. Okay Ever heard of Hulk Hogan brother? I sure have I never watched it growing up. I wasn't but I know all about Hulk Hogan WCW Watch Dragon Lee here in Chad Gable brother boom boom

Right in front of Mystic Rick and the Machine. No doubt it fucking hurts. No doubt. You know what, you're squatting 465, six foot six, still look good. Why don't you just go find out if it's what you think it is. No, that's why I didn't do it. Why don't you?

When I retired, people were like, you should do something like WWE. And I was like, that's just as difficult on your body. Why the fuck would I want to do that's just as difficult on your body. Why the fuck would I want to do that? Yeah, you could be good though at it, because especially whenever you put those thirst trap photos out there, that's really good for business.

Yeah, maybe. I mean, who knows? Haven't seen him take a chop. Yeah, from Gunther, you think you could handle one of those? Go back to the peanut gallery. All right, just stay in your lane. I'm just saying. You think you can handle a chop from Gunther, pal?

I'm trained in the square circle, baby. OK? I've been in there. We could go see if you could take a chop about that Oh, we've seen I've taken a kendo stick to brother. Yeah candlestick Kando Yeah, what's that? Let's get back to this thing. I'm so disgusted. Let's go to hashtag ash Jage is from a sweet cavy sweet cavies disappointed with you judge. You can't believe you said that Hashtag as I whisper hit your thoughts on how teams stop the tush push also your thoughts on if it should be banned since the Eagles and Buffalo Bills are the only ones that are good at it. Um, well the bills got stopped on it in the playoffs Yes massive moment, but I don't think it should be banned

I mean if you're good at something you shouldn't be punished for it I do if you want to take the push part of it away like her like I don't think it should be banned. I mean if you're good at something you shouldn't be punished for it I do if you want to take the push part of it away like her like I don't I just They're great at it don't punish them for being great at the thing that I'm most impressed by hands down as a player is that They're offensive line manages to stay on side every single time because as you're out there on the field You're for sure. They're offside. You like, there's no way that they're onside, but they're all lined up perfectly. They time it up perfectly. They're incredible at it.

The defensive teams often, almost every single time are offside. You can watch that clip right there, the overhead shot. They're lined up offside. The defense is actually the one technically wrong every time if you watch it, which is wild. Yeah, and you still can't stop it. Jalen Hurts also.

How do you stop? Yeah, go ahead, Dave you still can't stop it. Jalen hurts. Yeah Don't like that's I've been on teams where we played the Eagles while they were just pushing and people are like, how do you stop? I'm like you can't like you could lay a guy down on the ground to try and stop him low You could put a guy over the top and try and stop him high But they know the snap count you don't so they have the one advantage that you can't have and they're gonna win age How would you stop it? You gotta find a way to get like two guys at the point, get an absolute jump and just almost hit the ball

as it's being snapped to like to stop all of momentum. But then they're still gonna get pushed. So I honestly don't really know. They were doing hard counts in the Super Bowl, right? Or? And it's the championship. Yeah, you can't beat Washington, yeah. They were doing hard counts.

And it's like, once you add hard counts into it, completely screwed. So it's stopped. Yeah, I think it's You got to just put the big dogs like as big as you got yeah I don't know how many Vita veas are out there. No, well, they got the Florida. Yeah, okay Who's for who's 430 pounds? So I came in Vita vea like that might be the only way to consistently stop it is get two dudes who are over 400 pounds But I don't even know like if you ask the Eagles you asked Jason Kelleher

So you asked somebody I don't know if they would give you an answer on how to stop it I don't think he I literally don't know I think he might say there's nothing you can really do Have you seen how good your hair looks up there on that? I'm not sure on it. It looks Like that there's way too much hype going on it It's bad can we get a little zoom on it it looks like there's way too much hype going on it it's bad can we get a little zoom on it no no it's good more you touch it the worse you get no no I disagree it's supposed to be I think your hair is supposed to be it's flowing you can do that look at that it looks good dude great volume that's good hair maybe a little straight out of a hat yeah but maybe fade on the

side you can still do the fade too on the side. We'll get this guy a Pantene Pro V commercial. Yeah. Herbal essences. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we're at a point in the show that we have- No, we gotta-

Are you a head and shoulders guy? Let's get the last question here for Ash Jade, shall we? I don't like how negative you've been about everything. Your hair included. Your hair is awesome. Gumpi, what's this all about? Is he drinking out of your poutine back there? I've been pretty positive today, to be fair.

I agree. I thought it was gonna be super positive with JJ in the building, but I guess not. I'm having a blast. Me too. I'd be having a better time. This is the coolest life. Like you guys are living it.

This is awesome. Superstar Wednesday too. Yeah. Yep. Let's get to the last Ash, Jage ashtage this is case mini 1734 long time ago jage pay your respects hashtag ashtage what are your thoughts about mission impossible the final reckoning and could you do the stunts you think six what's six two hundred and seventy five just an absolute big son of

a bitch six six two seventy5 hanging off the wing. What are your thoughts? No, I think Tom's unbelievable. Did you watch the final mission? Not yet. I watched it. I saw some of your guys' interview. That's awesome.

That was really cool. Yeah, it was. I mean, I have so much respect for somebody who commits to being the best at what they do and truly follows through with it every single time. And he has clearly done that. And he holds his industry and he holds everybody in it to the level that he expects it to be at

and he lives up to that every single time. I mean, the shit he does is unbelievable. It's insane. And even though he shows us how it's done, even though they show us all the takes, like I don't think anybody truly understands And to your point about not having to put yourself out there like we talked about working out with the seals or whatever He has zero reason whatsoever to be hanging off the side of a plane

He has zero reason to be climbing up a building yet. He continues to do it because he feels an obligation I mean Tom Cruise is insane 62 years old terms. He's committing seven days a week. He's a more constantly thinking about movies How can I get better? What can I get better seven days a week. He's I'm constantly thinking about movies. How can I get better? What can I get better seven days a week? It never stops. I'm always on unreal 62. He's gonna do that till he dies Yeah, oh, yeah every day of his life was gonna wake up. How can I make a better movie? How can I make a big God like you found his he found his calling and he is fully committed to it Yeah, he's just I mean his energy seems incredible like he just I mean and you talk to people around him And they're like when you're around him. He just, you feel a different aura, you feel a different

energy. You want to be better to be around him. It's, it's special. Will you watch, uh, have you watched all the Mission Impossible? No, I haven't. You have not watched all the Mission Impossible? No. Oh my God, that's disgusting. Any of them? I mean, I, no, I haven't seen any of them.

You don't know Aether Hunt, crazy man? No. Aether? That's crazy. We'll have a moment of silence for JJ Wilden not having a clue don't know he's the hunt crazy man. No We'll have a moment of silence for JJ. Why not having a clue what the fuck he's talking about You watch Top Gun Maverick, yeah, I did I'm trying to get where you card that I see cocktail movies I would I lie about that. That's what you wear those t-shirts. You always say like that's why super cool throwback thing I only wear ones that I've actually watched the office I'm ready ducks American made American made it's not a TC classic great based on true story cocktails a good one from AJ you ever see that

Share McQuire mag magno is under the radar one Yeah, and Arizona has not changed since that movie born on the 4th of July. Yeah risky business 12 billion at the box office. You've seen nine man. I've seen some I've seen both top guns collateral She bring a fat guy, but last last girl. Oh, baby. They might yeah, was this the last Mission possible. Yeah, no, it's called the final final reckoning You're just gonna have to see them all to find out how many of them are there eight you can watch this I'll do it for I'll do it they're so good do it for what Tom really good in the industry see it the movies maybe you should rent out a movie

theater to watch all eight of them straight through I'll come yeah so so straight yeah that would take 20 hours. Yeah, great. Stay your life. You're saying it's probably a great day. That would be a That'd be fun. Yeah popcorn a lot of popcorn Yes, absolutely The reason he dropped that one was cuz he hit the bucket and what they didn't drop out of his hand Yeah, the bucket spilled but that could have been the gimmick to make it look like there's popcorn in there That shit was cool. Yeah, like that fucking like legend throwing the dice. Yeah, imagine him on a craps table You mentioned a night. Oh my gosh, he's probably he's probably running on top of it if I had to guess

Before he throws it he's just saying think about how much popcorn he's had to eat to be that comfortable with the fucking What's going on boys boom? He's watching somebody else's movie. Shut up and watch the film. Watches a movie a day. Is that what he said? Yeah. Big on popcorn. Two bucks.

He loves the fiber in it. Two big bucks. He said that, Todd? He said he loves the fiber in popcorn. He said popcorn's healthy. He said that to us? I don't know if it was to you, but I mean that was his popcorn take.

He was like, I can't eat a lot of things, but I can eat a lot of popcorn. It's got fiber. It's healthy Make sure yeah, I saw he's got a great daffy duck impression really yeah, I saw yesterday for the first time After the Pacers game. I was just like going through stuff the algorithm. Yeah, and the algo fed me this unbelievable I haven't got that a daffy duck Tom Cruise yet But they've sent me all of his stunts in my algo shout out to my algorithm. Yeah, a lot of Tom Cruise in the algo So you might be Tom Cruise someday JJ. You don't know number two analysts for CBS this year on NFL games and you know in the future you might be Tom might be the next Tom Cruise No, it's nothing against you

There there is never there's never gonna be anyone correct like fucking TC You know we're talking about mission impossible, and yeah, he's doing some sweet that is a mission impossible It is in a couple years this guy is going to be the first one Powell Yes, and no We're still the jury you know that we like going pal. I love them. Yeah, I mean no question great TC is gonna fucking do a spacewalk. He's going to space. That's his next big-time stunt. Actually going. Yes He's going to be the first civilian to do a movie, right? Yes. To actually do a spacewalk. A spacewalk that's outside the space station. Correct. I believe he's going up to the International Space Station for a movie that he's shooting and that's going to be. So that's gonna be a cold

open of him fucking outside of that thing. Fixing the Hubble telescope with the earth behind with earth behind yeah He's gonna get knocked loose or something and he's gonna come back in film it Fucking I've met you I've been thinking about that quite a bit I don't know how many like directors of photography are signing up for like McHugh No, no, no, do you see McHugh when they're that's my thing that's he'll mount the camera is my guess that is probably what they'll end up doing because I don't think anyone's signing up to be like yeah I'll go fucking walk

in space with you Tom or you just teach an astronaut that's what I think I think you have an astronaut maybe hold the handheld I mean these guys are getting stuck up there I mean what I'm gonna have TC getting stuck up there for a year well that's no no no TC would just jump. Yeah, TC would just be able to pilot back or swim back. He would swim back, you're right. All the way, all the way, through the atmosphere. Yeah, until he gets to like the outer ring of the ozone and then he could just tuck and

go right into the closest ocean. He'd wait for Earth to spin. Yeah, exactly. He'd swim to a small way to get comfortable, wait for Earth to spin. Yeah, exactly. He'd swim to a small wave to get comfortable. Wait for earth to spin. And then boom, that's where I want to go. Mediterranean. Yeah.

Pick up speed. And then he's just fucking. They'd come out riding a dolphin, for sure. Maybe. And the queue would be right behind him, no time. I got it. I got it. Couldn't I?

The space station, they have satellite up there, right? Yeah. So you could probably set up a PTZ if I had to guess right Tommy fucking filming with a PTZ Why you kidding me? You don't think they put a PTZ outside the fucking not a chance based on I'm gonna look at that one second that quality shit I'm not doing that for a fight. This is not good. You don't have an AK It'll be like an IMAX camera probably it'll be it'll be it'll be the only kind of camera that it'll be like an IMAX camera probably. It'll be the only kind of camera that it'll be specifically made for them to go to.

He's inventing it. I bet he's inventing the cameras that he would use. Without a doubt. Good job, Edge. That cold open of him just messing around on the outside of SpaceJay wishlist probably. Yeah, I hope it's not a cold open because I hope we see him piloting the fucking rocket ship

off the launch pad up. Oh, to get up there. cuz he's gonna do that as well That's later the cold opens throwback We shouldn't even act like we know what the fuck's going on yeah, he knows it's gonna be amazing he's gonna be walking outside With his own camera. Yep, what if it's on like one of those sticks that he does? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah could be those cameras that just shoot. Yeah. Yeah, so he films himself there Maybe it's on this the glasses that have the camera meta Yeah, and no cuz he couldn't film himself. No, you might go tomorrow. I might go to Mars. He's holding a mannequin

He's holding the mannequin up with the glass Yeah, that could be it. I could be it, you know He's holding a mannequin. He's holding the mannequin up with Yeah, you could put a camera on the American flagpole that's on the moon and you could just do a moonwalk Let's not get into that That's a good idea Yeah, cuz if he does that that means he never left the earth, you know JJ think about this the moon is rest in peace do you remember say the moon is 250,000 miles away okay Mars 250 million miles away okay I saw Elon tweet that we could get to Mars in six months if the planets are lined up

at the right thing is the Projection in the future okay whenever we are inevitably traveling to these places on a regular basis seems like that's gonna happen at some point Are you gonna sign up to do one of those or no? not first would you go to the moon if you're offered to go to the moon if if 5,000 people went before me I Need some I need some assurance that that's pretty so how many people have gone to the moon whole bunch? Whole bunch of nothing. What are you talking about? I? Think you might get it. Yeah, I don't

We're definitely going down a road here my current guess is we never lay down the moon. That's what that's what I know I women it's a clearly we know where you stay. It's a fact. How many claims? What is it, like, is it a nine? It is a thousand percent fact that we never went to the moon. You know how many people would have to keep a secret? That would be a wild secret to keep.

But once again, you know, with the technology advances, there's a chance they could have faked that. What is real? Nothing's real. I like to think we wanted a moon in. Yeah. Where'd you go? Same thing with you. I need to see others do it. That's like in your, you bought a plane?

No. You bought two planes? Nope. Why would you guys want to go? Just because. Just to be like, God. Just to look back at Earth. Hang out.

You got to experience. Twelve people have walked on Earth's moon says Wikipedia the first one was obviously Neil Armstrong and the last one was Eugene Cernan all crude moon landings took place between 1969 and 1972 as part of the United States Apollo Okay, well people did then we just stopped correct. Yeah Check the box. Yeah, it's bullshit. Never happened. There's people that feel that way. I hate and I didn't feel this way until I learned that they made a call. They made a call from the Oval Office all the way to the moon in 1969.

Yeah, it's tough for me to call my wife. She's right down the road. And what fucking world is that possible? It's not this one. This one right here. Is that possible? Not this one. This one right here, brother. I've FaceTimed with the space station. Then you look in here. You FaceTimed with the space station? Yeah.

What'd you say? Hey team, how we doing? Yeah, just checking in twice. I've done it. Oh, cause Houston, we have a problem. Yeah, once was from the facility, which was really cool. And then once was from the space station, from. NASA.

Big delay? No, how was the? Little delay. There was a little delay. I'm trying to remember why the first one was, cause we did it from the stadium. I think it was, I don't know if it was during the hurricane. No, it was just little delay. I'm trying to remember why the first one was, because we did it from the stadium. I think it was, I don't know if it was during the hurricane. It was just in Arabia.

There was something. That's awesome, hold on one second. It was really cool. Because we were going to try to put a request in for the two astronauts that were stuck in space or whatever to join the show. It feels like they do interaction with Earth. Yeah, they definitely do interaction.

We, I wouldn't be first on the list for them to call if they didn't. How long was your conversation with them? The one was when I was at NASA, we was just like, hey, how's it going? But then the one at the stadium, that was like a good five, 10 minutes. We got to ask them some questions

and they showed us around a little bit. It was really cool. What did they do, show you water floating around? Yeah, like all the, you know, little stuff. So you basically said, dance, dance. I mean, I'm sure that was a little, yeah. Do the thing, thing do the anti-gravity thing and they did it back. That was great. That's really cool I felt I felt cool. Yeah, do the tell you to do the watt thing. No, I Don't want it. I didn't want to embarrass myself or them or waste our airspace from between here and the moon

I guess they weren't on the moon. It's a lot on the moon it's a lot whoa who was in the space station oh yeah I thought you were joining 13 sunrises in one day I think yes space station says that think so isn't that the number they see like 13 sunrises in one day why would they still be up there not go to the moon because they're doing research out there but oh what are they gonna do there on space we don't need to go to the moon. We already got all the fucking soil samples 50 years ago. What else is there?

1969 and 1972 we already figured it out. Exactly. You know why we went to the moon? Because we were trying to win the fucking space race and we won. Congrats to us. Ball game over. Woo! Suck my dick, Russia.

That's exactly what we said. And that was the end of it. All right. And we haven't had to go back. I'm all for that, man. I just don't think it happened. We got our ratings for hour four right there. Yeah, we got to get out of here.

It's been a good day. I want to celebrate this Pacers-Nicks game in proper fashion. I think we did that. I think so too. We want to talk about the Dallas Stars potentially being dead. I think we talked about that We got chance. What do you think? What do you think? We're not dead Stuart Skinner has to turn to a pumpkin. He's been playing like Dominic Hasek. It's blow on my fucking mind He's back to form guys. Shite been shite all year. Oh the guy who's up 3-1 on the Dallas Stars is shite Okay in the Western Conference finals

Okay, got it. I mean he got pulled like he lost his starting job during these playoffs Then the other guy got hurt. It's the only reason he got back in the net. Yeah, and guess who got his swagger back Yeah, he's good right now, but he has sucked at some point Feels like it might be McJesus's year. McJesus versus the Panthers. Stanley Cup final. Zach Hyman's out. Rick Canter is right out of here. Euler's got no shot against the Cats if they get there.

Euler's are currently tied with the Florida Panthers. Wow. For the odds on favorite. I like the Panthers a lot. Not because I don't like Canada, and I don't like seeing Canada have a team win That would be cool to continue the trend though of American teams winning. Amen. We were Thank you to Florida Panthers and the state of Florida

Over the last like five years and marshy really holding it down for us in marshy Obviously taking a trip down to Florida making that happen But make Jesus winning would be very cool, but this Panthers team just feels like the right they just got the right I like to cut Other gym. Yeah, so much physicality so much physicality got some guys back to tonight rhinos back really Greer's back. Whoa Whoa, I love physicality too and Oilers are giving it to him. Yeah, that's guys. McJesus can just dance on that ice He's just dancing on that ice. The guys take fucking cheap shots too,

whacking our guys feet and trying to break them too. I mean, let's, you know, I'm about done with it. All right. The Oilers just do stupid shit and everybody says it's playoff hockey. It's okay. It's cheap shots. All right. Yeah, but Edmonton's a great city.

Is it? Do it back. Good boys doing it, comp? We did. We actually knocked two guys out last game. So. And cheap shots or? No, they were great hits.

They just laid them out. Oh, OK. It was just hockey. Yeah. You were saying it's hockey. Funny how everybody says it. Let's just play off hockey. Yeah, it is.

That's what I was told. Edmonton, though, good town, I heard. Is it? That's what I've been told. That's where it all starts. Or the ice, if you will. I've heard that. Across the ponds. Uh huh. Have the double double there too. Yeah they invented the double double again. Edmonton invented Timmy Horton.

We have video of JJ Watt down there at NASA. This is him practicing in space. Sweet. It's only a matter of time before this is the real deal and he doesn't have a hockey helmet on. in space sweet it's only a matter of time before this is the real deal he does have a hockey helmet on practice practice space for a bit I'll be back later I mean that's me yeah it was cool I did not I did not know what to expect and NASA's a cool man. So they said we got one triple XL fucking helmet. Okay, we got a JJ. Well, let's loosen the straps.

What was the mission? Space walk? I don't remember. That's 10 sets of space. Is this what Tom Cruise is doing? You don't remember what this is? I remember doing it. I don't remember what my goal was.

I think I was just experiencing anti-gravity. That's why I'll never be TC How'd you feel they had your feet locked up to yeah, you got everything locked up? It's scary. Look like a gray every day They pull the wrong button. You're going a couple different directions there. Oh, what's his name Christian, Greg? Mm-hmm Ten cents of space man There's a lot going on. How long were you up there for? Not that long.

Thank you for your service. I really was vulnerable. Why do they have your ankles? Like that's the, that's the, the spirit. Because if they were hanging then you're not anti-gravity. You know I used to, I did the three, two, one fly at Kennywood. Oh yeah, me too. It was the, what'd they call it?

The swing shot thing, yeah. The sky coaster? Oh yeah. And they put us in a little bat suit and the legs were certainly kind of attached in the back there. You feel like they're in control completely. That's kind of where you were doing there?

You ever do the, like the sky zone where you fly over the, like you, it's like sky diving but indoors? Oh yeah. Man, somebody turns that fan off when you're in, you're fucked. Did you enjoy it? You were able to do that 66275?

Yeah, did it with some Navy Seals, it was awesome. And you're, yeah. Did you do any flips? No, I was not trying anything but staying afloat. Those guys can do some really cool shit. You go skydiving. I don't like, like I'm, like you said, I'm a big guy, so you start to get off the ground

and you start to put yourself in some weird places. Break your fucking neck. Yeah, a lot of shit takes a long time. You think people underestimate a big guy, so you start to get off the ground and you start to put yourself in some weird places. Break your fucking neck. Yeah, a lot of shit think you're wrong. You think people underestimate how big you are until they see you in real life? I don't know. Definitely. I think so.

You're obnoxiously large. I can definitely tell, like, I can tell at times, like, if I'm bigger from working out or if I haven't been working out as intensely, like, people react differently based on. If you're like all. Yeah, like if I'm fully jacked out as intensely like people react differently based on if you're like Oh, like if I'm fully jacked up, it's much much different full strapped up Yeah, they say holy shit. Look at this thing and then whenever you're yeah, you're me just flopping around They're not really that impressive. Yeah, I'm trying to lose like I need to let myself lose some weight

I feel a lot better when I'm later my body my joints But you need to get 465 on that back three times on a Tuesday. I mean, when you're in the gym, I'm in the gym yesterday. You're public gym, yeah. I got, there's like four or five people there. Like, I can't just do 225. Like, I gotta, I don't know. No, you can't.

Dude, it's an audience of one. Always has been, always will be. God. God bless you. I mean, he wants to see it. Like, why wouldn't he want to see it? Or she, Jesus. He knows it. Or Jesus.

I don't know. Sometimes you need something. Like, you gotta have something something how often is the weight room here get used very often in the morning boys are in there Do you chug pre-workout? No, I don't do pre-workout. You used to create team. Yeah, I do creating I do post for all my stuff supposed creative creating BCA's collagen Crembalone sandwiches BCAs, collagen, protein. Trambalone sandwiches. Um. We'd love to see what's possible there.

We'd love to see what's possible. Why don't you? Come on, just turn into a full science project. Because I'm worried about all the shit that can go wrong. There's a lot of shit that can go wrong. I will watch. We talked about those Olympics. Yeah.

People that watch. I will absolutely watch. Oh, the Enhanced Games. Can't wait to see that. The Super Duper Games. Oh, yeah. When's that happen? I think it's this next summer.

I see some stuff popping up about it I saw one guy that's gonna be awesome There's been some projections on the amount of muscles that are torn at that particular event It's gonna be more than any event in the history of events But I'll tell you what they're gonna lay it on the line for us those shot put balls are gonna go further than ever Mm-hmm. I can't wait. That's gonna be so pop. That could be you Could be though. Could be. All right, Jage, we appreciate you. Good luck this fall.

Thanks for stopping by out of nowhere. Thank you guys. This is awesome. This is really, really cool. And I also have even more respect for what you guys do on a daily basis. No commercials, everything straight through the entertainment.

Speak for the fans. Thank you very much for the daily entertainment. You guys are great at what you do. Thanks, Jage. You're a good guy. Thank you, Jage. That was very kind of you to say that about us Jage When you run for president or maybe have your run with the WWE at some point

Yeah, don't forget about us. I'll fly right over your head Patty Mack Thanks, Jage. Maybe we could tag team. I'll do tag team wrestling, brother You fucking ass. Work yourself into a Twitter brother. You did not need to be doing what you're doing. I understand what you're trying to do. You're not doing it. I believe it's called a heel.

I think it's called a heel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not, you're not fucking heeling. You crossed the line. You're working yourself into a shoe, motherfucker. So you're looking for heat as a heel. Okay, you're looking for heat as a heel.

That's what you want. Not fire. Well, fire would be good heat to get. There's levels, there's nuclear heat would be good too. But you're getting go away heat right now. Okay. That means they don't even care. Yep.

Newspapers up. No pop. No pop. No pop. You do know a little bit. You know the business kids. What's that all about? You've been learning brother?

You talked to bone for a little too long It could all be a work. You never know. Oh Jade we're trying to do brother for shoot. I'm not Wayne said everything's work everything every interview Life is what every match? Every conversation anything you've ever seen it's all the work guys still working out Maybe he is trying to get into the biz. He could.

I might know some people if you want to shake some hands. You're gonna have to put on a good front though, what you've been doing, not good enough. And let's make sure we're swole up, not a bag of milk like you talk about. Thanks for coming out. I'll turn the spigot back on. Is that the?

I'm not gonna talk about it. Is that the science? No, I did. Why don't we see what you can become? Me? Yeah. I believe in science. Yeah. Not all of it.

Like there's no, there's stuff I'm like, no. Jay Jack's like, he's, he's hasn't worked out. Have you ever not worked out though, Jay? It's like, there's no way you ever just haven't lifted for more than a week. No, two two two weeks Maybe three but not like oh my god hands down the long three weeks you didn't work out I mean, it's hard, you know how like don't like run out of Ford mean no offense We got a punter on this side age. I know we can talk about it

But like I don't know I it's it's a it's a American thank you very much. I was just in the squared circle with Gunther, the ring, yeah, they're out. Toe to toe. Change of potatoes. What you're saying, I think, is valid. I saved a load, I had a load management joke when you were talking load management and I saved it.

Yeah, my entire career is load management. I know, it's beautiful. It's a great job. Save some of those jokes. But no, like it's, I don't know, maybe your experience is different. You clearly look jacked. I don't know why he doesn't get as much shit as I get.

Oh, he does, we do, we do. He clearly does. Not like I'm not like I came not big like you. I can't lift as heavy What are you talking about? What do you hope right now? No, it's like we're doing here Yeah, he bucks kids effort to keep us covers it up. D. Butts absolutely jacked. I don't know. Yeah, he buzzes D Butts can do a daily work. Oh, yeah Classic like old man workout situation, you know. No, we don't know. No, tell us. This is the answers we got.

Yeah, I'm trying to get to that. If I can look like you and not work out as hard as you, I would love that. Old dude, cardio mixed in, jump off, you know, hit the elliptical heart or reverse the climate heart, jump off it, you know, hit a couple sets of whatever, get back on, bam. All right, so it's hit.

So it's just keeping the heart rate high? Yeah, but I mean, honestly, it's whatever I want. I like working out by myself. It's like meditation for me. Now. Yeah, but I mean honestly, it's whatever I want. I like working out by myself It's like meditation for me. No, we actually have a photo of AJ in the weight room. Oh Wow, not me. Hey, Jamie. How does AJ Hawk you? Look great Still what does it end up? What's your tattoos? It's JDT Justin Derek Trent me and my brothers and then nice Chinese

symbol underneath China yeah I mean means family or home yeah I know I do not have any good direct ties or any what you boy reason to have a Chinese symbol on my body looked cool that sunscreen you put on what you put on baby oh no that's actually legit sweat which Sweat? Yeah. Where'd that come from? Yeah. No, that's, they didn't need to go out to the world? No. I mean, I would've. I'm still proud of it.

If I take this photo, I'm putting it out. No doubt. Every morning. You jumping on their box? Look at those tree trunks. Jeez. Not that one. That one is, let's see, 24.

We did some box jumps over at Big Mike... We did some box jumps over Big Mike. Big Mike. We did some box jumps the other day. Landing soft is the ultimate flex. Big Mike was getting after it. Yeah, Big Mike had everything in it. That box actually was at 60, so I've done 61 before. Oh, jeez.

How recent have you been up on top of that 60 inch? I don't do that much anymore. What is 60 inches? Five feet. Five feet, yeah. You're box jumping under that? I mean, I did. I don't do that much anymore. What is 60 inches? Five feet. You're box jumping onto that? I mean, I did. You're stepping into that? No, no steps, zero.

Oh, so you can dunk. You're jumping on top of a five foot person? Yeah. You can dunk? Yeah, I can dunk. You can definitely dunk. Got a ball? All right, come on.

Yeah. I mean, I've been sitting in a chair for four straight hours. We'll do a little stretch. Here's some calisthenics. Wait a minute you got it Plus flat to help you palm Can you really just get up there? And he definitely did you watch him move around at TST like he can definitely still talk. Yeah soccer

Well, I'm talking just how we can move so large. Yeah, 60 is box jump. It's very fucking impressive Yeah, what's your I got what you do with the combine? 37 it's very impressive pretty explosive. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you can die. You can jump a foot and a half You can dunk ladies and gentlemen. How old are you now, jage? Jeez Tough one 36 years old retired future first ballot Hall of Famer. JJ Watt will attempt to dunk a basketball. Drop step? Straight first?

No steps? This guy's a maniac. If he does this, we will give away 20. Cans of corn. Autographed by Ty Schmidt. Boom. Oh! Oh! That's great. Oh! All right. Oh! Wow. Oh

Shit was that something did that? Damn That had to feel pretty good. That was easy jeans. I was shit got four hours Just from a standstill. I hurt Sam. Hey, man, keep your eye out for the Pacers on this run. We don't know if we need you. You know what I mean? I'm an enforcer. I'll be another JJ. We'll be the double JJs.

Oh! Dustin James and James Johnson. People running their mouth. I don't think so. You guys eliminated the Bucks though, so I don't know. Those are my guys. That was a matter of fact. That was so long ago.

That might as well have been two seasons ago, ago brother. I know I know Yannis Maybe the Houston though so that could that was incredibly impressive. How'd you play? Yeah, what that was your 275? Yeah But he replay here How do you feel about your explosion not great about your explosion? Not great. Honestly. Oh, dude. Oh, that worked.

Effortless. Yeah, that was good. You should try to break the room or the backboard. You cracked that. He almost ripped the whole thing off the wall. Not a lot of people are coming in here dunking, by the way. It's gotta have been. I don't know how many people have dunked on that particular

hoop over there. I think you're potentially the only one. No, Bone did last week. All right, let's get out of here. Let's scrabble out here. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life or just send a team on me. Oh, oh, Ben Stiller put a tweet out.

I'm gonna do it. Oh. He said we had a good time, all good. All right, good. Come on the show, Ben. Come on the show. That's JJ. Come on the show, Ben.

He's 60, 75, he's dunking. I think he would do it. Ben also said he wants you to come to the next game. Perfect. Ben, come on the show, paddle go to the game. We got it. Perfect. You need to, you're really comfortable right now. You just got done doing a big dunk and everything. next game perfect Ben come on the show paddle go to the game we got perfect jazz you need to you're really comfortable right now you just got done doing a big gunk yep this is less than time it's about 24 hours from now trying

to figure this whole schedule I'm floating you are full as you should you're a beast of a man thank you for traveling on here Massa Square Gordon yeah I mean how you find the Easter Conference final the Mecca 20,000 I believe the gunner they win you're going on the stage For oh after they do the stage presentation me a Rick Harlow Punching him in the shoulder. Yeah, Rick's gonna take that trophy go. I don't Yeah, but Tyrese gets the the Larry Bird Eastern Conference player of the tournament. I knew that

Team on me AJ great work today, but good luck in your workout tomorrow morning Appreciate it. Thank you. You too. Jade safe travels home. Thank you for coming out. You're the man Thank you for having me Congrats on a CBS gig, too That's a big deal being the voice of the NFL every single week is a lot of pressure I think you're gonna do a great job with it. Thank you. I will lean on your gentleman's guidance We do not need to be a part of that. Amen. Amen. Amen.

Let's have a great day. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye..