The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1357 - Shams Charania, Mark Messier, Peter Schrager, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Finals that saw the Florida Panthers take it to the Edmonton Oilers in a decisive 6-1 victory, plus chat about Trey Hendrickson, TJ Watt, Terry McLaurin, and a few other notable players not attending mandatory minicamp in search of new contracts. Joining the show to chat about the NBA Finals thus far and what he thinks about the series moving forward is ESPN Senior NBA Insider, Shams Charania. Next, 6x Stanley Cup Champion, 16x All-Star, Conn Smythe winner, 2x Hart Memorial Trophy winner, ESPN NHL analyst, one of the greatest hockey players of all time, The Moose, Mark Messier joins the show to chat about last night’s game and what the Oilers need to do to get back on track. Later, ESPN NFL Insider, Peter Schrager joins the show to chat about all these different holdouts, the NBA Finals, potentially being in goal for Concafa SC next year, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this offseason football Tuesday, June 10th, 2025, this program begins now. Sports are fantastic and there's a lot of them happening in real time. Last night the NHL continued the way the NHL has gone. The last two years the Florida Panthers put an ass-peeding on the Edmonton Oilers to go up to one in the Stanley Cup finals We will talk about that today with moose mark messier Joining us in about 30 minutes or so obviously he's an NHL legend He was teammates with Wayne Gretzky way back in the day became the captain of the New York Rangers and a man who played

I think 55 years in the NHL won a hundred Stanley Cups can't wait to get his thoughts on this Florida Panther team how they play why they play and if his Oilers team is gonna be able to answer and is there a tell on Sturzkin the goalie of the Edmonton? Feels like five out of six of those goals one sticks right here right here right here so we see in the playoffs of hockey they get a scattering report the book on the goalies i'm not saying they don't have it all season but in the playoffs best of seven series they are doing a lot of research on where this goalie sucks and where this goalie is great at if you look at most of these goals except for whenever stewart skinner was out of the net

that thing was going high he was out of net there that doesn't count go to the second goal please please go to the second goal thank you thank you thank to second goal. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Waggie boom bang Bardowski actually off the top third goal boom high right on the goal Stu's get boom high right Stu's skin stick side high side. How you doing? Keep it, but I think he's in trouble I think the Florida Panthers have figured it out last night 6-1 win in dominating fashion. We'll talk to Mark Messier We'll also have Shams Charania joining every goal basically going to the same exact spot. Now granted they're sniping. Yeah big nip. I mean those potentially going in on a goalie that is very good on stick side but it feels like they

were aiming one particular direction and putting it in as Florida Panthers team looking to go back to back for the eighth time in the history of the NHL dynasty in South Florida is certainly a conversation piece. Now let's talk a little bit about the NBA. Cause we know tomorrow night here in Indianapolis, Indiana, game three of the NBA finals will be taking place. We will be alive from outside of Game Bridge Field House at noon tomorrow. Come hang out with us.

Great backdrop over there. Right? Nice weather. Bicentennial Plaza is what it's called. It's right outside of Game Bridge. This is a covered area. So it should have some shade in there on the beautiful weather. The backdrop is beautiful Yes, most shots of Indianapolis don't have this particular backdrop

So whenever we are offered up the opportunity to go down there again, we are incredibly pumped and thankful for it We'll be there tomorrow come hang out with us Even if you're in town from the Oklahoma City fan base You guys have done a great job with your arena. Coach Carlisle of the Indiana Pacers actually said, these fans here, really, they're loud. He said that was a big deal for this game, whenever we lost game two.

He said we hope our fans understand the mission, understand the task, I hope so too. We'll be in there tomorrow night. So hopefully we'll set the table tomorrow. A lot of people traveling in town. A a lot of people gonna be on the show tomorrow I hope you will come join us, but Shom Sharani will join us in about 10 minutes or so What should we be thinking about as we look ahead to this game three? What should we be thinking about as we look ahead to the show tomorrow?

Shaw shawms join us live in person we assume he'll be boots on the ground out here this dude's unbelievable Tyrese Halliburton We've seen limping out of his press conference. This looked like he was a little bit sore. That doesn't look like anything problematic to me because if it was, I don't think the Pacers people would have allowed him just to walk. There would have been at least an arm, maybe a crutch.

We're in the middle of the NBA finals. But we'll ask Shom's what he knows about this and any other storylines brewing ahead of this NBA finals game three tomorrow here in Indianapolis, Indiana. And then football is happening all around us. Mandatory mini camps are happening all around the league. There's some people not showing up.

There's some people not happy about their contracts. There's some veterans that have proven themselves in this league that say, hey, excuse me. We're supposed to get a deal done. You have not gotten a deal done. I don't care if it's mandatory. You know what's mandatory? You pay me. That's what's mandatory. I'll take the $17,000 fine

I'll take the $30,000 fine for missing these mandatory mini camps because what you owe me is a lot more So this is becoming a statement for some of these players or if you're the 17th overall pick in a draft where it is it is It's pretty slotted cut and dry what you're gonna get get I mean that is kind of a part of the CBA It's like here's the amount of money that the number one overall pick will get now There are some conversations about the guarantees when the money comes when it will be deferred to all those things There are some negotiations, but it's 17th overall. They kind of got it. They kind of got it pretty much figured out He has an agent at an LAA young lad he might be some sort of super genius that

is working the system in the CBA differently than everybody else but this dude missing all of this and this dude saying like numbers weren't where I wanted them to be instead of like what I was told they should be has made himself a bad guy in a city that he was gonna be you know I mean in Cincinnati that's a place that they will hold you They will judge like this is just overall bad in my idea in my eyes This is not great for Shamar Stewart, but as soon as the deal gets done. He'll get on the field. He'll be a beast That's what Shamar Stewart is we understand

He'll be great But the Cincinnati Bengals draft him 17th to replace Trey Hendrickson potentially because they can't get Trey Hendrickson to show up There anything now their 17th overall pick isn't showing up to anything They got problems on that D line over there and the only way it's gonna get settled is money I guess and negotiations and maybe because they get rid of Pratt yesterday They open up some money to sign Trey Hendrickson It may be the super agent that Chamar Stewart has he's able to snoop his way around the CBA to get more money than anybody else in the history

of that particular pick was supposed to get with the rules and regulations that have been implied in collectively bargained agreement for the NFL. So there's a lot of problems around the NFL. We'll certainly talk about that with Schrager in the next hour. He got his mind blown by Oase. So, Oase has been doing a lot. Ose has a book. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler

joined us. Ose has blown our minds. Ose walked up to you, told you to bring your phone out. Scroll through your phone book, contacts, stop, look at a name in your contacts, and then he wrote down on a dry erase board the exact name that you were looking at in your phone but not just the name yeah you said the name I believe was Boogie wasn't even real names my daughter's nickname Boogie was on his phone he says Boogie he writes that he already had Boogie wrote down then he had something else he said and and and and then you said black heart emoji and he turns around he he goes, exactly boogie.

And it was just like, wait a minute. They looked at me one to a hundred. Think of a number. And I go, I think of a number 77. And I go, Whoa, too easy of a number 77. That's the easy. That's gotta be the easiest one. Two sevens, sevens is a lot of people.

Lucky number. That seems like an easy one. I went to like 54 or something. I'm like, what a shitty number. I'm going to a shitty number. He says to me, bang, you thought of 77, then you moved to a lower number, right? Lower number, yeah, 54.

And then he walks away. I'm like, only I know if that was right or not. And it was fucking right. Then he came on game day, this guy. He told me to think of a card. So I thought of one card, and then I switched it last second. I'm like, not gonna let him do it. He called my ass out. He's like you were thinking of this then you went to this and i'm like, what's this?

He's a demon and more people need to understand. He's a demon. He tried to do a trick a big night out That would have required 12 000 drunk Uh people to follow along with their calculator. Yeah, that was a big swing That was a big swing bios, but every time swing by O's. But every time I've seen this dude operate, it is mind-blowing, mind-boggling. And you think to yourself, this thing isn't real. And there's more and more people getting a taste of it. And what he did this morning with the get-up thing here, outrageous. And a lot of people say it's all rigged. It's like, no, we're trying to catch him. This group right here, I don't nope we're trying to catch him this group right here would

i don't think we would let anybody like thank you i would like a little bit more respect yeah we try super bowl aj yeah put half the deck of cards into his pocket to try and uh screw with those and then oh saw to make him take them all out yeah i mean it's just like yeah he's a demon man he's got a book though he can teach you how to be a demon. No. That's my thing. I don't know if I want that. But nobody bests a thousand, so the big night out was tough.

But today on get up, I believe he broke Bart Scott's brain and definitely broke Greeny's brain. He might still be in that studio stuck right there because you talked about the 77 and then throwing him off going into 54. We did the same thing with the coaches to spell out get up this morning, it was wild.

And knowing it, seeing it on TV now, knowing it's not a gimmick, knowing it's not a fugase, because I definitely would think it if I didn't experience it on my own. Scrolling through my phone, he got me maybe two or three more times. I think I don't want to be in his presence ever again. Yeah, that's how I feel every time I'm around him.

And then I'm like kind of oddly fascinated by what's going on here. Cause he did the game day thing where he, he had me close my eyes and he said, a school will come to your mind. Okay. Greeny. Then he had Herb Street do something else.

Think of another thing, think of another school. So then Herb Street says he thinks of Clemson or something like that. And I thought of Georgia. So at the moment I thought, ooh, we got him. He fucked this one up. Like this is not right, because I said Georgia Bulldogs.

And then Herbstreet turns his thing around and it says Clemson on his dry race board. I'm like, oh no, we just ruined your whole thing, buddy. And then turns out, no, they actually played each other. What was the final score? Oh, it was exactly what Saban did earlier and what Reece played each other. What was the final score? Oh, it was exactly what Saban did earlier and what Reece Davis did earlier. That was the final score.

Those were the teams that played against each other. And there was some date. It's like the levels of shit. He like tells a story with all of his tricks. They're never done. They're never done seemingly. He just keeps going. We would just like to let the world know

that he's very pessimistic about these types of things. And maybe they're sick of CNOs, cause I have seen that on about these types of things, and maybe they're sick of seeing O's because I have seen that on the internet. I've seen people say, we're sick of seeing this guy. Just know that we can understand why you're sick of seeing him, but if you have a chance to be around him, it's like, to moment you're like, what the,

like it doesn't make any sense. So I think that's why everybody's kind of captivated that is in TV world by him, because we all want it to be fake. We all want it to be bullshit. And then he walks right into that batter's box and seemingly each time he takes a bigger bat Well, I'm gonna tie actually this guy over here. He shit ties into here. They spelled get up this morning With the first letter of all the different names that were thinking of he got somebody's ATM

Pin yeah from an offense alignment at the Cincinnati Bengals. But first it was Joe Burrow throwing it randomly to two people, throwing a ball randomly to a team meeting. And it was their numbers where that guy's pin. That's it. Did it with the bills too. Did that multiple times.

Is that not just like- Yeah, that's crazy. How does that fucking work? I don't know how it works. He got Rogan. Got his pin? Not amused. Well, it's that is one of those things where... He got your pin. If you... hey, yes, my pin, I had to change it. Thank you so much. Actually fucked me because I don't use my pin much, you know. Had to get money out.

Put my old pin in. Didn't work twice. Didn't work twice. I thought I was going to lock it up. Yeah. I'm like that is my pin. It has been my pin. And then immediately a little O's pops in my head. Ha ha, it's not your pin anymore. Remember we did it in front of a million concurrence. We were doing the numbers for Big Night Out between YouTube X TikTok. We had throughout a million concurrence throughout that show.

So how many people heard my pit? All of them. All of them. Probably a lot. Probably all of them. All of them. And then the reruns. There was no reason for him to do that to people. You know, can you pick something that isn't as detrimental to society there? Just losing it all.

Hey, this guy's social security number. Right now that'd be a pretty crazy thing to do. Anyways, we'll talk to Schrags about that and everything happening around the NFL and what he is hearing about some of the big names that are still available. Because remember, Schrags slept on the catches of a lot of these guys that are now in charge. That's right.

Senior Bowl, having a good time down Mobile, Alabama is a young buck trying to meet people. All the people he met now are basically running the league. So he happens to have a lot of information that other people don't have. Although he doesn't consider himself an insider He is certainly that we can't wait to catch up with him The talk today was here at Boston Connor and that tie Schmidt con man owes is a demon

But this Panthers team might be unstoppable. Yeah, I know they're in their third straight finals I know this is potentially their second straight Stanley Cup Connor McDavid dry side on the boys still exist I'm not saying they don't. But when you watch the Florida Panthers do what they did last night, it's hard not to be like, this is a wagon for the foreseeable future. And they just got Marshan on their team.

Yeah, exactly, Marshan. I mean, you just said it. Him and Sam Bennett together have been ridiculous. I don't know if you remember the movie, Hancock, but in Hancock, Will Smith's a superhero. That loves him. If you remember the movie Hancock, but in Hancock will Smith's a superhero loves it fun facts Back when Facebook was a thing favorite movies Hancock was on there. Okay NFL films was filming me one time asked me my favorite superhero

I said Hancock the drunk one next question. I am a big Hancock Okay, so then you know Hancock loses his powers when he's near around another Yeah around another it's kind of the opposite of Brad Marsh and in Sam Bennett when they're around each other They almost become better Sam Bennett now is the favorite to win the Kahn Smythe award Which is crazy because Mcdavid was the favorite at minus two something coming in Marsh and a minute into the game You know, he scores his first goal. And then it was basically, that was kind of all she wrote damn near.

Verhagy, ridiculous snipe. And you mentioned over that right shoulder, that stick side high on Stu Skin. Gump's been telling us for a while, hey, Stu Skin will turn into a pumpkin. I'm not saying that happened, but I'd be surprised if we see Stewie skin again the problem that the Oilers are doing is that they're trying to play

Florida Panther hockey, okay? I see that they're trying to bully a little bully and granted That's because the Oilers went and they grabbed trend Frederick who started the backyard brawl if you will last night. It's five to one. The Oilers are just getting absolutely shit pumped and because of that they're trying to get into the heads into the kitchens of these Florida Panthers. Little do they know that is where the Panthers live. Trent Frederick right there. Sam Bennett he's been the superstar so what's Trent Frederick too? Hey let's screw with this guy. I'm gonna break my stick over his back and let's just start throwing hands and that's what happens But that's what the Florida Panthers thrive off of the Oilers are probably going with Calvin Pickard now who got hurt earlier in the

Playoffs as five on five in the Stanley Cup finals. Yeah fight. I mean, what are we even talking about? This is five one. This game is over. There is only reason this would happen is because the Edmonton Oilers just are trying to get under the Panthers skin. Do you think that's gonna happen this for the Panthers team? Absolutely not. Blood gushing down that guy's face. Couple cross-tacks from Frederick on Sam Bennett. One in the lower back, then breaks his stick across the wrist of Sam Bennett, the guy who's gonna win the cons by the MVP of this entire thing. So obviously the Panthers like, I don't think so. This is all happening right in front of the Edmonton Oilers bench. I once again cannot reiterate the fact enough hockey is awesome.

And the fact that you can just get a full five on five brawl in the Stanley Cup finals in 2025 should make everybody say this sports the greatest of all time. There's only three refs out there. Yeah. There's five different fights. Three refs. There's multiple times where that fight would go down the ground. Guys would catch their breath and say, we're not done yet. They'd get back up, start fighting each other, and the ref would have to come over. Then one ref would be struggling with one big-time fight. We're calling a friend, strikes, hey two refs, one fight. There's four other fights happening and only one ref to break it all up. This thing could

have gone all day and night if they wanted it to but the boys ran out of gas The boys ran out of steam and I think the boys proved themselves that hey, you're not just gonna disrespect us The Edmonton Oilers said we ain't no rollover bitches around here. We will put up a fight even if we're losing and And the Panthers says that right? Okay, we'll beat you 5-1 and beat your ass on top of it. As a Florida Panthers fan, you gotta love everything about it. Man, loved everything about it. And post-fight, you know, seeing the stick taps up against the ball.

I mean, it's just, it's the height of, uh, obviously playoff hockey, the physicality, not only, uh, between the whistles, but after the whistles as well. And you knew this was coming. You knew this was coming from the Orlers once they were down 5-1 and pretty much gave up I feel like in the second period. It's one thing to be talented but then to be talented and then be deep as well. You know you mentioned Sam Bennett and Marcian but you know Barkie and Chucky like they haven't even been giving them the production that you expect them to at this level. You're still getting all these weapons getting in there. Carter Verhege, Swaggy, he he's always gonna put pucks on net,

especially when it comes to playoff time. And then Bob, Bob is standing on his head. But Barovsky, the goalie for the Panthers. Yeah, Bobby standing on his head, man. So I loved everything about it, and that pop from the crowd. Obviously, Marsha got to start it very, very early on, I think the earliest Stanley Cup championship goal in Panthers history. And then once Carter followed it up, that crowd was in it and they never left.

One half of the hammer, cowboys AP torn. The one thing we do need to worry about is Conor McDavid and potentially an injury. Eckblad lined him up a bit last night and then he went to the locker room. So if McDavid's not 100%, are they gonna be able to beat the Panthers? That's the huge thing to watch going forward. It didn't look like much there But then the more of the replays they show we got a little bit of a knee-to-knee on that hit

So it's it's definitely something that we need to watch moving forward Yeah, and McDavid getting old back knee there a little bit of a trail him ending up on the ice Obviously never good not expected because how great of a skater he is Do you know how strong you have to be to skate as fast as he skates right now? That's the thing about McDavid. He's so explosive, but he's also so durable seemingly Edmonton Oilers without Connor McDavid obviously this thing is sign sealed delivered to the Florida Panthers But if he can stand they will put him out there That's the difference between hockey and every other sport if you can get into your skates and get vertical If you can stand up and down like six o'clock

Shout out to Q Rich They will push your ass onto the ice and you will finish. So Connor McDavid will play. We'll find out what he's actually going through whenever the series is over, which is per usual in the hockey world. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior insider for the NBA at ESPN,

friend of the program, the always handsome, ladies and gentlemen, Shom Charani. Yay, Shom! Shom, how you doing, pal? I'm good. I have news. I do have news. I will be in the house tomorrow in Indianapolis outside game bridge field house. I will be there is up to something season. So if you're there live in person, you never know what's coming your way. But you got to be in person to get it first though, right? I think that's how it works Yeah, I think you'll get it on social media, but you gotta be there in person Yeah, I think person to person is certainly the fastest form of communication still in 2025 There is some Stuff that goes on with owes I think that's faster

I think that's probably fastest then I need to learn how to do that I feel like I would get more information quicker if I if I knew how to do that. Do you think? Vocal communication or sign language is faster communication. Oh To me, it's it's always vocal. It's always vocal. Yeah, but if I do that, I you see you that's pretty quick That's you know what I mean? That's That's better than that's quicker than good. Good job. Yeah, I suppose to the brain. I guess Now the ears pretty fucking close if your ears are there are pretty complicated Signs though where people will be going for ten minutes, and it was just like yep

That sounds good all right if you had to guess what this means. What would you say that means? Do it again do it one more time Hammer down is that is that what that is? Close, not a bad guess. Shit happens, brother. Let's move along. Okay, so you'll be here tomorrow. Let's talk about the series Oklahoma City vs. Indiana. We cannot wait to see you live in person.

We appreciate every time you travel to beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana. We'll be outside Gamebridge Fieldhouse tomorrow starting at noon. There's something season, up to something season. That's all we gotta say. That's all we gotta say. Oh, okay. Shawn's about to be starting a new business. Maybe it's a hair product.

Not a bad idea for how good Shawn's hair is. Let's talk about the series here, Oklahoma City, Indiana. Tyree Salliburton was seen limping a little bit, getting on and off of his press box, press conference box there. They have footage of him at shoot around today He has been moving around he is there in the pink shoes obviously the Halle ones brought to you by Puma

He had a hell of a debut in those shoes He had a game winner in the finals next game game two not as great obviously for the Indiana Pacers game three tomorrow night What should we be thinking and what was that with Tyrese or is it a big nothing burger? Everyone around this time here is banged up dealing with something. I'm sure Tyrese Haliburton is dealing with some levels of soreness He went through full practice today. I'm told he was feeling a lot better yesterday going into today So I have not heard any concern level for his actual game status for game three in Indianapolis on Wednesday but listen everything about Tyrese Albert is postseason this year he's had the highest of highs there have been obviously some lows too like there

is on any playoff run but his numbers are staggering in wins versus losses in this in these playoffs they haven't lost a ton during the playoffs but in wins he's having almost 21 points over 10 assists. And the losses, about 12.5 points and about 7 assists. So clearly, when he's performing better, when he's more aggressive, when he's putting up numbers, they're a much better team, obviously. So I think how he comes out back at home, that's going to be a big sign. But I thought in game one, the Thunder got 19 turnovers out of Indiana in

the first half and they still lost the game. So to me, it's like Oklahoma City could clearly feel going into game two that they should be up 2-0. Indiana gets one. So they took care of business, but their defense, we've seen it in both of these games, not only just in game two, where it was absolutely stifling. I was there at both games, but the way they were able to get Indiana to get turnovers and put them in uncomfortable positions and guarding, like the way they're able to switch every single play, it's the most elite defense in the league right now. And that's why you have to give them a great edge for the rest of the series. But playing again in Indianapolis, to me, I know those crowds are going to be

crazy and packed and so You have to feel good if you're Indiana going back home now days, you know, obviously incredible coach as is coach Carlisle you talk about Dagon oh Dagon oh His fault this calm tags, it's calm tags. I'll just give are you? This is his fault. Let's call him Dags. Let's call him Dags. I'll just give him a nickname out here. Alright, Dags.

I like Dags. Mark Dags. Dags is a great coach, too. Dagono is a great coach. Obviously young, out there in Oklahoma City with a team that could be great for, I don't know, the next ten years if they are somehow able to keep everybody together, but they're a young crew. Let's go to Coach Carlisle on the other side. Obviously been around a long time.

He's top five, I think he wins in playoffs. If he wins another title, he'll obviously have a title with two different organizations. He's a guy that I think coaches hard on the Pacers. Do you think he's hammering home the message about Tyrese Halliburton to be more aggressive? Because I feel the way Tyrese plays,

just by watching, he just kind of lets the game come. And if it's not right for him to kind of be aggressive, he'll let somebody else do it. Do you think there is maybe a little bit more of a messaging to Tyrese within the Pacers organization that he needs to think about putting a team on his back very early? And how do you think that gets handled? I think they have full trust in him. But listen, Ric Carlyle, I've talked to players that have played for for him in past years whether it's in Dallas Or in the past in India in Indian like he's a very direct coach So if Rick Harlow brings you to the office or has a conversation with you, he'll be very blunt

He'll be very direct So I'm sure him and Tyrese Albert and I've had some very direct conversations and tires Albert and we'll listen to his coach But I think there's a great level of trust for Tyrese Albert to feel out each start of the game. I do think in the playoffs, Pat, especially in the NBA, later in these games, even when it's a blowout, you try to see what you can find. Any type of momentum is good momentum. I think people will make of Tyrese Albert's

fourth quarter and second half play as like, all right, he put up points in garbage time when they were already down 15 plus points. But listen, he did score I think 14 points in that second half in that fourth quarter, you know, being a big one. So maybe he found a rhythm there. Maybe he found something there. And we'll see in game three pretty early on how he feels.

But I will say Mark Dagonel, we were just talking about him. He went and changed his starting lineup. He took out Isaiah Harnstein in game one, put in Kason Wallace, and I think there was some feedback, some flack that he got. And I think he could have went back to the double big lineup, but he stuck with Kason Wallace in game two. They ended up winning that game by a landslide. And I think this is a Thunder team that has been changing their lineups all year.

They obviously have a very deep team. They have a guy named Jaylen Williams, Pat. They have a guy named Jaylen Williams who literally has shown that he can get triple doubles in games and he sometimes doesn't play, but these guys are ready. Andrew Wiggins, he has a nominal role in game one, then in game two he becomes this unsung hero. So they have such a talented deep roster that I think Mark Dagnan I wouldn't surprise anything with it. I wouldn't be surprised with anything

He does in game three with his rotation well good luck to Dags figuring it out here in, Indiana Okay, cuz it's gonna be tough is it gonna feel like a finals game when I watch it though How does the league feel about the lack of the trophies on the court? Yeah, and on the broadcast and how it used to be something that was a big deal. Now it feels like okay we just got a title on the line here as opposed to visually any big-time changes. Has there been any conversations about that? Because I saw people are not happy about the I believe they're calling them Bush League ass or amateur ass. I mean it was that AI is that like

what is that even called when you just self-impose that in there like I think I think yeah I'm sure the fans would much rather it be a real part of the court a real element of the court because listen you could put it on the on that version of it but then you see and you're actually at the arena and you see that that trophy is not actually there. The other thing is whenever they show the highlights the trophy is not actually there either. I think this is a better question for other executives, not me or the league. But Adam Silver did do media last week in OKC and he

did say that they are going to look at this in the years to come. That I think he understands how much this means to the fans and that they're going to take a look at it. I saw there was a quote I think a decade ago where they said it was safe for the league. It was more safer for them not to have that decal there. But then you watched the in-season tournament and there's this big in-season tournament trophy. When they changed the entire boards, they changed the entire court for the in-season.

I think Adam Silver said, we're definitely going to talk about this going forward. Yeah, any team you see in the finals going forward, we're going to remind them pretty clearly like, hey, this is a big, remember that in- remember that in season you wanted to have the feel though you wanted to have that nostalgic feel and I remember growing up even in the playoffs there would be this like playoff logo on the court for for all rounds and then when it got to the Western Conference finals there would be a Western Conference or Eastern

Conference logo and then the NBA finals there would be some you know this cursive NBA finals logo with the trophy yeah there you go with the trophy in the middle like there's definitely some nostalgia the league has gotten away from that over the last several years in the finals. The Super Duper Cups got a whole new court. It does. The Super Duper they made an entirely different court for the in-season Super Duper Cup. That doesn't even count. And then the actual one the actual end of season one. OK, I guess that's what we'll call it now.

We have an in-season one. Big deal. Super duper. And then we have an end of season one that as as it's like, come on. That feels like oversight. That feels like an oversight. That feels like somebody not doing or paying attention to the situation or understanding the moment. That's what that feels like to me.

And that could be a I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. We got to start the petition, Pat. We got to start it. Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam might show up. Adam might show up to the live set. You never know. You never, never know.

Is that Adam, you're speaking of Adam Silver? Is that who you're talking about? You never know who might show up. Oh, we can't wait for a brainstorm session with Adam Silver if he comes to the show. We're like Adam Silver, no, we appreciate him. We're a big fan of his. We believe he does great jobs.

He did say, he did tell me once that he watches this show during lunchtime. Now I don't know if that was talking about my passion for lunch or actually watching it at lunchtime because it shows up at lunch. I think it's the latter, I think it's the latter. I don't think he knows about my interests in fetish for lunch periods.

Oh, stop. Fetish, I didn't know you were doing that. I see you're rubbing lunch. I don't think I fully understand how those work. You remember that Grey, what was his name? Christian Grey. He had a lot, he you like peacock feathers and stuff Yeah, I've got that with like forks and spoons and

Good bread don't catch Bread sometimes you're scrambling Pat. You're scramming. You know, you have alerts on your phones or drink water Sometimes you're just scrambling you have oatmeal. I think that one time I had oatmeal. I was eating it with the boy Wow, that's desperate times. was eating it with a for desperate times for desperate measures. Alright, we appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow, Shams. You're the man. Good luck with that fetish of yours. I know we're eating into the time. 12.30. That's right in the middle of fetish time.

That's what we think. Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you. Senior NBA insider, Shams Chirone. What was that all about? Yeah, I don't know. We know what he's doing with his pork sausages. What's that? Let's just say he's beating his meats. Big time. Sounds like he's pining a little meat diner.

Yeah, deli meats. He loves lunch though. He does. Sets an alarm for lunch. Yeah. And then he tweeted out a bunch of times, yay, it's lunchtime. Yes, he did while in high school. Every day was a tweet about lunchtime. Finally, he did while in high school. Every day, it was a tweet about lunchtime.

Finally, lunch. Every day. Every day, yeah, I think there's like, I think there's like hundreds and hundreds of tweets of Sean Charani going like, time for lunch, pursuit. Is it like a picture of him actually, like what he got or just- Just time for lunch exclamation point.

Oh, feel it. He doesn't even know what he's getting yet. He just knows that he's headed to lunch. Some of them have like 50 exclamation points. And then he would use a fork, I think, for his oatmeal. Yep. And ice cream. How do you feel about that? That's interesting. What was the comedian that was the very deep thinking guy, Gary Goldman maybe? Yeah. It was him. He said if I walk into your house and I see fork marks on your ice cream, I know so much about you. I already know everything about you. I know that on numerous occasions you've been laying on your ice cream, I know so much about you. I already know everything about you. I know that on numerous occasions,

you've been laying on your bed, trying to get the corner of the fitted sheet, and you've been jumping trying to get that thing on there. He said, I know your pillowcase, halfway off your pillow. If you're using a fork to eat ice cream, I know the way you live your life already. Shom Sharani, I think, is the complete opposite of the type of person that you would assume

uses a fork for ice cream, especially in that entire bit. But he's, he's an interesting guy. Shams interesting. Why would that ever be moved? If you have no spoon. Exactly. That's the thing. No clean spoons. Yeah. All your spoons are dirty. I mean, it takes what?

Two seconds to clean a spoon? No. Yeah. But those type of people we're talking about aren't cleaning their spoons. Yeah. But Shams Sharani is the type of guy I think would clean his spoon. Yeah. He's more like American Psycho. Those type of people we're talking about aren't cleaning their spoons. Yeah, but Shamshaarani is the type of guy I think would clean his spoon. Yeah, he's more like American Psycho. I can see him hand over fist. I mean... Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a 25-year NHL veteran, six-time

Stanley Cup champion. Absolute beast. Incredible on ESPN's coverage of the NHL. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Messier! Yeah! Woo! Woo! How you doing, brother?

I'm doing good. I'm not gonna eat my ice cream with a fork. I can guarantee you that. Have you ever? I can't remember ever doing that, but I don't cut my pasta either, so I'm not gonna do that. Your what? You don't cut your what?

My pasta. Some people cut their pasta. I mean, who does that? Okay, so is a Canadian thing to say pasta Okay, so sorry about reading pasta. Okay, I Haven't lost my Canadian accent. That's great news, especially in the world that you're in now Moose let's talk about the finals here. Let's talk about this Florida Panthers team. Obviously last night was just a full ass beating both fighting I would say at the very end and then also in the game of hockey. What are your thoughts on what the Florida Panthers are doing and was this just a bad game for Edmonton or is this a sign of what the rest of the series is

going to look like you think? Well it's incredible what the Panthers are doing and the energy and the commitment that are playing with three straight years of the finals there. This is a very impressive hockey team that we're watching right now. They are completely outlined in everything that they do. You talk about a culture, you talk about having an identity. Well we're seeing it firsthand with the Florida Panthers right now what that looks like, what a culture looks like, what an identity looks like, how they play to their systems and how they play to their to their talent. This is incredible to watch to be honest with you. It was not a good night for Edmonton. They completely lost their composure. They

completely lost what they do well in this game. You know, they basically took the two greatest players of our generation, of their generation out of the game by taking just undisciplined penalties, not playing with any discipline whatsoever. And it was not a good night for the Edmonton Oilers. Having said that, the series is a long way from being over. I know the Oilers are going to regroup, but they can't afford to continue to play like they're playing right now. That was not a good look for the Oilers. They weren't playing tough, that is not tough hockey. What's tough hockey is watching the Florida Panthers play. They're playing tough hockey from whistle to whistle.

And all the other stuff that the Oilers were doing after the whistles is not in my estimation anyways, called tough hockey. Yeah, and Florida Panthers answered all the after the whistle stuff that was happening too that's kind of their MO they love being in the mud down there in the ice and I like the fact that the team that is the best in hockey right now is a tough team an actual tough team this Florida Panthers team and they take pride in that style of hockey right there

the last highlight we showed was Sam Bennett getting two hits on two different guys then I think back checking or whatever then going down and scoring on the other end just a a sequence here that basically embodies who the Florida Panthers are here as a team and this is in the Stanley Cup finals go ahead Mark oh you just hit the nail on the head you talk about embodying what the Florida Panthers are this guy is that in every sense of He plays with emotion, but he doesn't lose composure by doing it. He plays a 200 foot game He can wallop you with the with a body check like we see on the clip right here But then to have the legs to get up by it's to get back down the ice

After the you know long shift this guy is playing at a high, high level right now that I don't think anybody really thought that he could get to. Uh, he played great last year. He played great in the four nations. You can see the courage that he had in the four nations that can up and fighting for his country against a much bigger opponent, uh, Brady Kutruch. Um, this is a great hockey player that is really having a great series so far, a great playoff in total, but

Wow, what a performance he played with last night. Yeah, he's a favorite to win a Kahn Smythe right now and it's been fun to watch that entire team. Marshan just seems to fit perfectly down there. Now with all that being said last night They had six goals five of them seemingly went to the same spot Stick side high. D--bud has a question for you yeah you talked about being physically tough but mentally tough obviously is very important when you're playing that goalie position uh have we seen the last of Stuart Skinner starting in net for this uh series i i don't think so i i think they gotta go uh with Skinner again uh the you

know game four is gonna be a must win for the Oilers there and they're gonna have to with Skinner again. Game four is going to be a must win for the Oilers there and they're going to have to put Skinner in there and hope that he can get the job done. He didn't have a particularly good night, but I don't put it all on Skinner to be honest with you. I don't think the team played well in front of him. We know Skinner, if he gets some time and he can get him speed set, he can make saves there, but they spent the majority of the game killing penalties and Florida did move the puck around really well towards the end when the game was out of a hand but They have to ride Skinner at this point. There's no question about it. I Don't see them going making a change in goal

There were some short side goals that you talked about Yeah, go no goalie wants to get beat on the short side on some shots that he was beaten on last night. But let's not forget those are pretty good shots. A couple of them up in the top corner like you know where you know you could just thread the needle up there but ultimately Skinner's gonna have to play better. He's gonna have to match Bob Rostke but ultimately the players themselves the team in front of them got to put him in position to be successful and they didn't do that last night. Stooskin all year, great. Got hot during the playoffs, great.

Then you get let six past you. I do wonder mentally how you're able to do that. But that's your point. They were all snipes, bar Don posting in everything, hitting time. But yeah, he's done that. He's done a great job that is the last two years of not playing well and being able to bounce back and come in there and shrug it off. You talk about being mentally tough.

You talk about being a tough hockey player. That's the kind of toughness that we need to see from the Evan Dean. The mental toughness that they have to play with to get back to their game, including Skinner. They got to regroup. This is a team that has the ability to win a Stanley Cup. They got all the experience. They got all the tools that are needed.

They got to go out there and find a way that makes them successful against a very confident, battle hardened Florida Panther team. It's going to be tough to answer the call here, but I think if anybody could do it, McDavid, Drivesidle, Stu and the boys can figure it out now They did show signs of life at the very end. Go ahead tone Yeah moose they uh, they started a five on five fight when they were down five one towards the end

We've seen this time and time and time in the series, uh this year if a team is down a ton of goals They're like screw it. We don't care if we get a power play against us We're going to start a fight. Is that an unwritten rule that if you're down 5-1 in a game, in a series, you just start fighting? Look, I just don't see the benefit of it, to be honest with you. I think that if the Orlers want to play tough, they should be playing tough when the game's still in the balance from the opening faceoff. But the fact is that both teams have to be more disciplined.

I thought both teams actually took way more disciplined. I thought that both teams actually took way too many penalties, needless penalties, careless penalties, undisciplined penalties and that should have played well into the Oilers hands but it didn't last night. They took too many of their own. The Oilers if they're going to win this series have to be on the top side of the of the specialty team units right now and right now they're not. They weren't particularly good on the power play last night. The penalty killings struggled. And if it continues that way, the Warriors are going to be in tough in this series there. They have to get back to playing a disciplined hockey game using their balance of what we've seen in the playoffs. They were getting balanced scoring in the first three

rounds of this playoff series because they were staying out of in the playoffs. They were getting balanced scoring in the first three rounds of this playoff series because they were staying out of the penalty box. They were playing disciplined. They were giving themselves an opportunity. And when you got two guys like McDavid and Dreisel, give them an opportunity to make plays in the game. Give them opportunity, even if the game is close, they should feel comfortable playing in that kind of game

because they can make plays all over the ice and when it matters most towards the end of the game But right now they got a regroup. I Highly suspect that they are gonna regroup they have too much talent They have too much experience now they got a really kind of look at what they did in this game and park and file it and get themselves ready to play like The kind of hockey that we've seen them play throughout the season and the playoffs.

On that note, Moose, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Moose, obviously you mentioned, I mean, it's still early in the series, this thing's not done yet. But when you have a situation like last night where you not only get your ass beat on the scoreboard, but you try to mix things up a little bit and kind of get your lunch eaten in a fight like that. Are there any residual effects moving forward for a situation like that? I don't think so. I mean, like I say, I don't see the benefit of last night. If I was

the Oilers last night, I would have much preferred to see them playing a hard game between whistles, continually taking the body. It was 7-1 and the Panthers were still finishing their checks, legally finishing their checks. That's the kind of commitment they put into their team game. I would have much instead of this, I would have much rather seen the Oilers really playing hard hockey towards the end, really trying to finish your check and punish the Oilers and try to look at this as it's going to go seven games and get the benefits there. But by slashing people in the back of the legs and taking cheap penalties, that's not

tough hockey. That's not doing anything to the Florida Panthers other than embolden them to what they're doing working I love to hear how passionate you are about not only Edmonton or others, which obviously you have history But just the game itself like hey, this is not how you're tough. This is not you're embarrassing yourself here This is not what we need in this entire thing. That's you shaking your head even more as I say that That's exactly what you're saying here Well, I'm saying exactly like that. There's a way to be tough and a way to play tough But being tough is going back under pressure when the guy is bearing down on you as a defenseman and taking the body check And moving the puck that's tough being tough is getting in front of the net and taking a pounding to score a goal

That's tough. This stuff is not tough. That's not tough hockey and this is not going to win it for you anything at this time of year. This is the Florida Panthers are playing to their identity. The Oilers got to play to their identity. This is not the Oilers identity. I haven't seen the Oilers.

They consider themselves a much bigger, stronger, more aggressive team, but this is not the way to be aggressive in the playoffs. You know, this is not doing anything to the Florida Panthers. In my, in my opinion anyways, there, I think the Oilers have lost composure. I think they feel a feeling that they're being bullied. The Florida Panthers are just playing hard hockey, hard nose hockey. They're finishing their checks every time the orders got to respond They got to be able to take it get themselves up pick themselves up and give it back in the same way between whistles Hard hockey get to the front of the net take a check to make a play. That's tough hockey

We've heard the captain speak to the team It feels like that's the way I felt like I was in the I was in the change room with you there. I feel like after the game that is exactly what you would have said. That's what you want Connor to say basically in there to the boys. Hopefully the message finds its home. Now away from the series there's other stuff happening around the NHL. Obviously it is a professional league. There are people that get fired. There are people that move on. There's new jobs. Connor has a question for you Moose. Yeah Moose Did you see Pete DeBoer's comments after these stars were eliminated about Otter?

I know a lot of people especially stars fans weren't happy about it. What did you think about all that? He kind of threw Otter under the bus and then things got contentious I guess in the exit interviews with players just around their feelings about it I guess in the exit interviews with players just around their feelings about it And do you think that's probably the right move for the Stars to go in a different direction? Just because they haven't been able to kind of get over that hump since the Boar has been there Yeah, look at Pete the Boar is a great guy. I have a lot of respect for him as a coach his record speaks for itself It was a puzzling move that he made at that point. As a leader, you're looking for your leader to stabilize things. To me, it seemed like a rash decision.

I'm not sure why he did it. There may be some frustration. But I think the players and everybody else were just as much in shock as we were. And obviously, that's what happened. But, you know, composure is very, very important when the pressure's on and when the pressure gets to its highest levels and you're looking for your leaders to make really good decisions and keep a level head

and keep everything kind of simmering and give the team confidence that you believe in them. I didn't think it was a good move. And ultimately he paid for the price for it. How much can a coach change things? For instance, I'm a Pittsburgh Penguins fan and I seen coach Muse for the first time on a photo that, you know.

Peace. He's changing things. Yeah, you heard his voice though. I heard his voice too. He's got a deeper voice and it's like, okay, I know nothing about this guy. I think I probably should, but I know nothing about him other than this photo in one 32nd clip of listening to him speak.

Whenever you get a new coach in town, what should we be looking for? Like if he's had success in previous places, his style of coaching, like in hockey, what is the most important thing for a coach to be able to do more specifically this Pittsburgh Penguins team getting back into Stanley Cup conversation. Well you can throw away all the X&Os there because I think it's pretty much a copycat league and everybody's trying basically doing the same systems and and whether you can communicate that well is another thing. To me it's all about can you inspire a player? Can you help the player believe in himself and then the team?

Can you give them a roadmap and a belief system that what we're going to do and how we're going to approach this year is going to bring us success and then see success on top of that? That to me is what makes a great coach. And I think that some do it very well and we've seen a history of coaches that have lasted a long time. I just have so much respect for the coaching institution and the people that do it really, really, really, really well. And it's not easy. There's a lot of things that coaches have to deal with. But ultimately, you're talking about interpersonal relationships as a head coach

You're talking about how to can I get the best out of this player? You have to get to know that player on a deep level Because sometimes players need a kick in the ass other times. They need a pat in the back You can't treat every player the same There's so much that goes into the psychology of coaching and to get the best of your players But the guys that do it well and we're seeing a classic case of this happening in Florida right now with Paul Maurice, a seasoned veteran coach has had a lot of failures in his coaching career. He's learned a lot. But when you see the coach and the player relationship that we're seeing in Florida right now, that is as a higher level as it gets.

The synergy, the belief, the trust, the inspiring relationship. And what you're seeing, the net result of that is the way they're playing on the ice and collectively together. The coach gives the players a voice in the room. There has to be peer pressure in the room. And if there's not, the coach can't fix that. The coach has to let the players drive the bus. Marisa done an amazing job of doing that, all the while giving them guidance and and correction along the way It but that's that's what it looks like in its purest form And I know there's many other examples that we've seen in other sports and with great coaches from Phil Jackson to Pat Riley and all The greatest coaches ever ever coached, you know, Bill Walton talking about the great

Coach and in UCLA saying that they never used to even talk about basketball. They used to talk about life, you know, and that's one of the greatest coaches of all time. So yeah, we're seeing a really great example of it in Florida right now. Yeah, Mo seemingly speaks to the group. The culture in football, normally driven by the coach. Coach will want to set the culture. You know, GM gets the players, coach sets the culture,

players have to institute culture. Players always have to police themselves. Every sport, we're adults. Locker room has to control locker room. But the coach is the one that's basically saying, hey, this is the type of team we're going to be. This is what I want it to be. Here's the thoughts. Same thing in hockey, like that Florida Panthers culture. Marshawn goes down there. We know exactly what their culture is. We watch what they are. goes down there. We know exactly what their culture is. We watch what they are, we watch them, we know exactly what their culture is. Is that Mo setting a tempo and then Kachuck

and the boys taking it as their own? Well, I think it goes from ownership right down to the general manager, right down to the coaching staff. And they have a belief system of what the culture is gonna be and then how they're gonna actually play the game. And then you identify players that can fit into that culture and then when they come into the team you have the leadership that that enables those

players to come in and be themselves and their own personalities but actually play to the system. There has to be a belief system inside the locker room that what we're doing is correct. The way we're going to play, the way we're going to try to win a Stanley Cup is correct. And so far the Florida Panthers have done a great job identifying a way to win in the league as it sits right now. They play hard-nosed old school hockey that we haven't seen and it's working. They're big, they're strong, they're skilled, but they're most important than anything. They're dedicated to their system. They're dedicated to the culture and they got the leadership to spread the word

when they have new players assimilate into the system like they have again this year. Eight or nine or seven or eight new guys again this year that have been brought in, grabbed their arms around them, bring them into the fold, show them what the Florida Panther way is on and off the ice. That's building a culture. You know, sometimes culture gets way too overused and nobody even knows what the hell they're talking about when they're talking about culture, but we're seeing

it right now with the Florida Panthers. Everybody's trying to get one, only a few have it, and those people are the ones that play the longest seasons in all the leagues because they're the ones that are winning. Let's talk about winning. Let's talk about what you're doing today. I believe you are golfing at an outing for Answer the Call. I just looked up this information. New York Police and Fire Widows and Children's Benefit Fund, who has been supporting heroes and their families of the New York Fire Department, New York Police Department, PAPD, I don't think I know what that is. Port Authority. Port it. Port Authority.

Port Authority. Port Authority. Okay, Police Department since 1985. Thank you for doing that. Thank you to Answer the Call. How long have you been working with Answer the Call and what does today look like for you? Well, today is always amazing day when we're here supporting the families that have lost their loved ones in the line of duty for to protect all of us. I've been on the board somewhere around 10 years now maybe. You know, shortly after 9-11, Rusty Staub started this charity way back when to help the families that have lost their fathers or mothers or sisters or brothers in the line of duty.

After 9-11 it put so much pressure on the charity to come up with the funds to actually take care of these kids and these families. New York has supported this charity unbelievably through the years, obviously for all the right reasons. New York has stood up and been counted when it matters most. And it's been an incredible experience for me, the relationship that I have with the NYPD and the Port Authority and the FDNY, but most importantly, supporting these families, especially after 9-11,

when it puts so much pressure on all these families financially. Hell yeah, Moose, we appreciate you doing that. We appreciate, obviously, those who serve our community because you know those who run towards danger as opposed to away from it are a superhero so you paying tribute to them. I agree with that buddy. Yeah you paying tribute to them and their families and helping them out you're a good man Mark we appreciate the hell out of you we'll talk to you soon all right Moose. Yeah man let's go. Hell yeah that's you've given

two three speeches today that have made me want to put the boots on and skate through a wall. Ladies and gentlemen, six time stand-up cup champion, Mark Messier. Hey, Moose. Six time. Six times.

25 years. Bro, he lived in a change room. Yeah. He's still in it. That was awesome. He's still in it. He's going to hit the ball 400 yards off the tee today He's pissed. He's pissed at the Oilers. That's not what toughness is

Tough isn't slashing or hitting guys behind the legs around the wrists getting your ass beaten fights Toughness is standing in front of their goal Sacrificing your body so you can score. Take a hit move the puck. Toughness is knowing that you're gonna take a hit still doing it. Finishing your checks. Listen to him like him in the change room You can see him doing all these you think you're tough You think that's not tough and then you all you're doing is empowering Yeah, that is what they want to do as long that was that was literally him just getting dropped right back in Edmonton correct like That you think that stuff think about him watching that game. Oh god

So pissed the amount of pride he has for Edmonton too. Like he's not biased, but he's definitely pulling for the Oilers. All right, we have some updating. Without a doubt. That Connor Mc... I think they're gonna rally. Maybe, might not be, I don't know.

Okay, I think Connor's gonna gather the team and say to them, that's not tough! That was awesome. He was literally giving them a speech. Hey, I don't know if you're listening Dry saddle fucking still you need to stop. I'm making all the excuses for you Need to stick by him. He's a guy. Yeah, that's back out there. Yeah, he's done. That's Florida Panthers fan No, I know get him back. Hey, look, he's he's shown

Back, you know and play hot someone in Gumpy said he would turn back into a pumpkin I'm glad he did but what's if he bounced back Gumpy also? Not good con Cafa loses to the number two team in TST in the semi-finals I don't if you saw the finals last night electrifying so good absolutely electrifying bad pitch Bumpy pitch. I had to see they're calling slide tackles last night So Gumpy and the refs of TST certainly have a relationship I don't know if it's necessarily a great relationship, but it's certainly a relationship Gumpy told me because I was not able to be there

Gumpy told me that the refs told him I missed the call. I forgot that was the rule. I'm so sorry and then Gumpy says you're terrible or something and says, I was just trying to tell the truth, man. And Gumpi said, you shouldn't have. You should have lied to me. It's human. It's shit. He said he forgot the rule and then his assistant said,

I told you the rule three times in your ear. And he said he didn't hear that too. So it was a few things there that got to where we were. And then a ref goes, I was just trying to tell the truth. And Gumpi goes, you're shit. And you're shit. Did you hear the other ref story? Uh-uh The picture went out of the of the comkava team and Connor texted Gumpi and said why are you not in this picture?

He said I was yelling at the ref. Oh, yeah, we got a whole team photo Yep. Yeah Gumpi was over there at the middle of the pitch. Just let him have it. We won that game. Yeah Sorry break, yeah, you were not long in the tooth I told you Huge win. We're still shy. We're still shy. Oh, Breck, I'm sorry, Breck. Yeah. You were not long in the tooth. Gretla, I told you. Hey, hey, Gretla, time to hang up the boots, lad. No, no, Gretla still.

He played that ball in for Breck's winner, dude. All right, we gotta correct the story. Shamar Stewart, we said his agent must be a super genius. Yeah. It's kind of slotted in there. What are we doing? You're the 17th overall pick. The CBA has this thing.

Pro Football Talks' Mike Fleurio has reported, as previously explained, so I guess he has done this before, not enough people saw it, and that is what he is saying. The Bengals have decided to wedge a new clause in Deshadar Stewart's deal. The clause would turn a default in any given year into a void of all remaining guarantees. In prior Bengals contracts, a void wiped out only the guarantee for the year in which the

default occurred. Stewart refuses to be the guinea pig for the new term and the Bangles refuse to blink. As a result, Shamar Stewart will be less prepared for training camp than he would have been. Okay, so the Bangles are doing Bangles. I respect him now. I like what the agent's doing. I'm not going to be the first one. How am I supposed to tell?

He's also a young agent. So I'm a young agent. I'm supposed to just tell this. Yeah, for the first doing. I'm not going to be the first one. How am I supposed to tell? He's also a young agent. Yeah. So I'm a young agent. I'm supposed to just tell this. Yeah, for the first time ever, we're agreeing to something. No way. Why are the Bengals doing this?

They're the worst. That's why. They do. And to Shamar and the agent, we apologize for not knowing that before Florio tried to tell us. Hello, beautiful people. And welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On the other side of the world, we have a new show.

We're going to be showing you the world of the great. We're going to be showing you the world of the great. We're going to be showing you the world of the great. We're going to be showing you the world of the great. We're going to be showing you the world of the great. We're going to be showing you the world of the great. We're going to be showing you the world of the great. Hello beautiful people and welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this off-season football Tuesday, June 10th, 2025, our tour of the program begins now. Sports are happening all around us. We just got a chance to chit chat with Marc Messier. I read one person on X who runs like a coaching leadership

university say that Mark Messier just put on a master class on building culture, leadership, and coaching others on this particular program, and I agree. There was three different speeches he gave that I wanted to go run through the nearest wall and go get the job done. Will the Edmonton Oilers adhere to his advice, adhere to his leadership, and answer the call after the Florida Panthers win 6-1 last night down in Florida, and take a commanding 2-1 lead in the Stanley Cup final?

They could go back to back as Stanley Cup champions for the eighth time in the league's history. They'd be a dynasty that people would be forced to talk about forever, and are they done just after this season? I don't think so. They're seemingly continued to be on the rise down there in Sunrise Florida with Kichuck Sam Bennett and all the boys buzzing McConnell McDavid dry-sidle Stuart Skinner and boys from Edmonton have a chance to represent all of Canada to be the first Canadian franchise to win the Stanley Cup since 1892 yeah,. Jeez. Wait, what was that? Salem Witch trials. 1993. Feels like it's been since 1814. Since a Canadian program has won the

Stanley Cup. Their game, our league, we win again. The Full Out of Panthers obviously filled with a bunch of Canadian players. Hey, no, I don't think they had any. No Canadian players down there. No Canadian products, no Canadian accents, no nothing. None on that Florida Panthers team. With that being said, Conor McDavid on the other side, worth a watch and I'll be excited to see how he answers. I assume there's some cameras behind the scenes

somewhere, can't wait to see how the entire year has kind of, this guy. I know. That's in the Stanley Cup final against the Stanley Cup champions. Against that dynasty team I was just chit chatting about that could be. That was against that team in one of the biggest games of the entire. Hi, hi, ho, see ya. That guy's on the other team.

And the Florida Panthers beat them 6 to 1 somehow last night. Will they be able to continue this run? We shall see. The NBA finals continues tomorrow night here in Indianapolis, Indiana. We'll be live outside the site of tomorrow night's game the Gamebridge Fieldhouse at Bicentennial Plaza starting at noon. Beautiful backdrop. We would actually do the show there every day if we could because of how nice the backdrop is. The nicest backdrop we've ever had. So getting a chance to go down there and celebrate the NBA finals. If you're in town from

Oklahoma City please feel free to stop by. Obviously if you're the area not working, which could be a difficult thing, please come through. I believe summer has hit for a lot of schools, college and high school and everything like that. I think tomorrow should be a fun day. It's going to be beautiful. Downtown Indianapolis with perfect weather. Yeah. Celebrating this Indiana Pacers team who obviously is tied in the NBA finals. Game one's ours. Tyrese Halliburton called game game two They kind of did their thing. They did their thing to the Indiana Pacers Now Oklahoma City's favored by five and a half in Indiana We shall see we'll be kicking it all off tomorrow the talks tables here at boss Connor at Ty Schmidt

Go ahead comment. Okay, she's 0 and 7 against the spread as a favorite on the road I believe was the set that was sent in one half of the hammer done The other side the Pacers are completely defeated in game 3 so one of those is gonna have to but yeah the game 3 thing With the Pacers is very real. They've been very well in all the other series. I believe yes They've stolen them on the road because they were obviously lower ranked than everybody else that they've had to play against because the Indiana Pacers beginning of their season was us Oklahoma City has been playing great since the beginning of the season Oklahoma City is the team that everybody said we should be talking more about SJ is gonna be the MVP he was

Chad Holmgren was not just good for bad commercials. He's also good on the court He is this coach bags which people are calling a lot of different names, wizard, genius. This Oklahoma City fan base, best in best atmosphere in the NBA. People have been saying that all year about this Oklahoma City team. For the Indiana Pacers, nobody's been saying that but us. Although since February, they've had the best record in the NBA alongside the Oklahoma City Thunder, they were kind of outcasts, overrated is what everybody said, no chance of going on a run. Well, now what? what in the finals? One one first home game coming. I'll be excited to see how the Pacers answer after a loss

Haven't lost back-to-back game since March. Hmm long time since March haven't won a game three So that's gonna have to give as well nine-year NFL vet. Terry state bother is here as well, nine year NFL vet, Terrence J. Butler is here. D-Bud. Don't come down that man right there. What's that? He's going to come down to Halle. How does he set the tone? Obviously, with this series, he's

going to have to score more. He's going to have to be aggressive from the jump to get his team going. We know how he does distributing the ball. But turning it up and turning up his aggressiveness on the offensive end late in the game, I don't think that's going to work against this OKC team, because they just keep going, going, going,

going the whole 60 minutes. So I'm sure Carla Carlisle have the boys ready to roll and I'm excited about this matchup tomorrow for sure me too game bridge should be buzzing I believe we'll be in there I cannot wait to feel that you know finals atmosphere oh yes different just like the conference finals final four minutes Connor Connor pointed out was was like, hey, this is it. This is it right here. There's a buzz that is palpable throughout this entire arena. The Pacers are going to the finals. Holy hell, we just won the Eastern Conference. Last year, we made it to the Eastern Conference finals. Nobody expected us to do it. Nobody talked about it because we got swept by the Boston Celtics who inevitably go.

We're back. We win it. Now we're going to the actual finals. How do you feel? We feel great. I think that's how Oklahoma City fans feel as well. It's a great time for us to be fans We're going to enjoy the shit out of it. It's going to be loud. It's going to be a good environment It's going to be a great game pasco sea. Ockham gum bananas would be sweet, too Yeah, any one of those yeah, that would that would be very cool watching him do a couple of those. Wow whoopty-woos That he does those things with he is absolutely spectacular to watch in person because he's way too tall to be moving the way he is can't wait to see this guy six foot six they say true SGA with the way he moves and everything he does you cannot wait to watch it's gonna be fun should be exciting tomorrow night okay we

start at noon tomorrow come join us outside joining us now live from Anadik in Ohio this man is college football national champion Super Bowl champion Ryder Cup winner father 10 of 10, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawker. Yeah, Hawker! Hawker, obviously big news around the sports world. Last night, the Panthers get a big time win. They're up 2-1. The NBA finals continues tomorrow night.

We'll be live noon outside Gamebridge. A lot of football talk, AJ, a lot of football talk. And let's start with a man that is your best friend. Aaron Rodgers went to a golf outing yesterday, all the Pittsburghs buzzing, they love him. They love that he's there. Have you gotten a sense from Aaron on how he feels? And this morning Zach Frazier was speaking to the media, he's the center for the Pittsburgh Steelers out of West Virginia University, formerly of Morgantown High School, where West Virginia University is based.

Absolute dog for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He said Aaron Rodgers addressed the team this morning and told him he's all in from here on. Wasn't able to commit. I think Aaron's message has been very clear this entire offseason if you were willing to listen. Now, if everything he says, you think to yourself, oh, bullshit, I hate this guy. You're never going to hear this.

But if you listen to what he says, he's been telling truth the entire time. I'm not able to commit to anybody through OTAs. So I can't do that. That is just something that in my life, I cannot do right now. After OTAs, I can make a decision then, if you're cool with that. The Steelers, I guess behind closed doors,

created an offense for Aaron Rodgers. I guess they had a lot of faith that Aaron Rodgers was gonna commit after OTAs. They were very okay with a 40 plus year old, 20 year plus future first ballot Hall of Famer, Mount Rushmore football player missing the voluntary OTAs. So they've been ready for him. Seems like he's probably been ready for him.

And now in Pittsburgh after he goes to Kam Hayward's golf outing and meets people and showcases a little bit of, you know, positivity in the city and embracing the city. I think all of Pittsburgh's excited for him, Age. What are you hearing from Aaron? Yeah, I mean, I think Aaron is very engaged and he's juiced. I think anytime you have like a change of scenery, anytime it's something new, like think about that walking into a new facility, like everything is new, even though you're what, 20 years into your NFL career and you've won the Superbowl and MVP and all of this.

I still think something new and novel can, can energize you. Now I know we, we said this about the Jets hole situation. We saw that it worked out. That was obviously a brutal situation with the Achilles to kick it off, but I don't know. I think maybe people's expectations aren't as sky high as they were when he first joined the Jets. So maybe we're, we're, uh, you know, we're on the path for some good things for this Pittsburgh Steelers team.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with what you're saying. I don't think anybody outside of the Pittsburgh Steelers maybe locker room and family members are saying, let's win a Super Bowl with this team. Every team has to have that mindset. Every team in the locker room is like, hey, we're going to win a Super Bowl. We're going to have a team that's going to be able to do it. Joe Thomas, legendary Cleveland Brown, never made the playoffs. Never even thought about making a playoffs. No. He's a Hall of Famer this guy for one team. He said every year they went into the season thinking they were gonna win a Super Bowl. He said there was never a moment where he was like you

know what this team is gonna end up being completely defeated. Now as the season's going on I'm sure those moments cracked in, but in training camp, in the off season, at some point you have to believe that what you're doing is right. So in the Pittsburgh Steelers locker room, I assume there's a lot of belief, like, hey, look what we were able to do

without Aaron Rodgers. We get Aaron Rodgers in here, another year with Arthur Smith's offense, our defense is always going to be good, special team's going to be good, the AFC North is obviously going to be difficult, but why not us? If we get in, we can go on a run. But I don't think there's many even Steelers fans like saying, definitely going with Super Bowl this year. I think they're going to be better. I think Steelers fans think they're going to be better. I

think they're going to win more games. I think they're going to have a chance to do a playoff run. But I don't think anybody's like guaranteeing a Super Bowl. Like what was kind of happening with the Jets. That was kind of happening with the Jets. Oh yeah. That was kind of happening with the Jets. Yeah. Because of how desperate the Jets fans have been to feel that feeling. That was like the first time in a long time they've even been able to be like yeah we we can win a Super Bowl. That was the Jets world. Steelers world vastly different it's just like think we can be better think we can win some playoff games but it's not like a guarantee that a Super Bowl is coming

like what it felt in the Jets. No I haven't seen any Steelers fans saying like oh we're definitely going to the Super Bowl because we got Aaron Rodgers. The majority of them are pretty level-headed in thinking that Aaron definitely gives them a better possibility to win football games, maybe get a playoff win, but no I haven't heard anyone say that they're going to the Super Bowl, but it's awesome to see Aaron assimilate himself so quickly with the boys. What was there like 25 guys at the golf outing in that photo? Shouts to Kim Hayward, by the way, continuing to be a pillar in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Legend in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and also

legend in football. Guy's future Hall of Famer, good on him getting all the boys there. Getting all the boys, like it shows you just how great of a leader he is. He's also a former Walter Payton man of the year, so he's always doing stuff for the community. Hell yeah. But to see Aaron there, to see Aaron, that Aaron's comfortable enough to stand up in front of the team today and say that he's all in, he's locker mates with Friar Muth, and I saw a report that he's going to go with Muth to the US Open as well this week. Wow.

Pittsburgh's alive. He's already part of the team. I think Aaron said he wants to go Plum High School too. He does, alive. Yeah, he's already part of the team. I think Aaron said he wants to go Plum High School too. He does yeah. Yeah, why not? He wants to go see the Mustangs a little bit. Somebody in Plum that heard that that thing says real. I'm not making that up. Okay, he is not. They should do a training camp practice from Plum. I know the Bengals used to come to Centerville High School and have a whole day of camping full pads at our high school. It was a gigantic event. Don't do anything to bagels, dude.

Yeah. I'm sorry to the players, actually. I'm sorry to the players, actually. I don't want Pittsburgh to have to get in buses and travel and dress in high school locker rooms. Wait a minute, Steelers say, yeah, we're on that. And then, you know, it's kind of, yeah. But if they were to do it, Plum would be a great home.

Hey, Plum would love to have you. Joining us now is a man who probably knows more about what's going on in Cincinnati than we do I would hope he does I don't know if you read the same report that we did about Florio and what Florio is reporting about the number 17 overall pick not agreeing to a deal yet with the Cincinnati Bengals the way Florio is reporting it as previously explained I've reported this before okay as previously explained this ain't the first time I'm letting the world...

Nobody's listening to me, obviously. Bingo, he's like, everybody keeps saying the wrong shit, which we were one of them. So we appreciate him saying that he has reported this before and we missed it. We apologize for missing it. Yeah, the Bengals are exercising their new clause. We dug through the CBA, figured out that we could actually

void all the years remaining, instead of just the year that the whatever takes place happens So we're gonna try this out with the number 17 overall pick and his agent said I'm young but I'm not that dumb Can't be doing that to me. So now there's no end in sight because I assume the Cincinnati Bengals are like set precedent with this deal This is what we would like the future deals to look like and Shamar Stewart and his agent are like no How is that? Why is that our life? And then I assume his agent is saying why don't you guys figure out Trey Hendrickson? Too if you're gonna be trying to sneak new clauses into our world joining us now

Insider analyst Emmy award-winner front of the program New York Knicks super fan ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager Shrakes, okay, so we saw Florio say as previously explained which yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And what are your thoughts on this? I thought the CBA regulated exactly how much everybody's getting when. I guess that's not the case, Shrinks. Well, it used to be the assumption the last several years that where you're drafted is kind of what you're paid. So the idea of a rookie holdout would be completely illogical. You're going to get paid what you're owed

just based on the structure of it. Now I think, I think Jamar Stewart's agent's an interesting guy. Zach Hillers is his name. He's also James Cook's agent. And he was Dalvin Cook's agent. And he's a young cat. He's about 30 years old and he kind of beats to his own drum.

And he's saying what he's saying and the Bengals are saying what they're saying. And if you're going to take it for its word, you would look at the Bengals handling of the Trey Henderson situation and say, well, that seems pretty unorthodox as well. And a little uncocious with how that's being being done but they weren't just gonna take the deal that was given to Shemar Stewart. He hasn't stepped foot on a practice field and that was including Wookiee Minicamp and that's including this Minicamp and guess what training camps right around the corner and you almost think you draft the 17th overall pick as a defensive end and a physical freak to be the guy who

could ultimately replace Trey Hendrickson and there seems to be the guy who could ultimately leave her place straight and rickson and there seems to be contract issues with both of them Not the case in 31 other training camps, but it seems to be the case in Cincinnati Okay, so we see where shrank sits in this entire thing for that last statement a lot of bangles fans are saying Why you guys got a very us? It's like cuz this shit does happen with you guys and it seemingly doesn't happen anywhere else now Would Duke be able to take care of it? I assume I assume when push comes to shove this will all get sorted, this will all get figured out. Like I think the Trey

Hendrickson deal will get figured out. Like I think that will happen. I think there'll be some sort of agreement or maybe he gets traded. I think there will be a decision that gets figured out. Shamar Stewart has to be on the field for training camp. I mean this isn't even like number 17 overall. I feel like they get it figured out. Why do these teams continue to push things down the road though? Now I guess we could say Shemar Stewart could have taken a deal earlier too so we could put blame on him. But let's look at the Pittsburgh Steers. We talked about Aaron Rodgers being there, Kim Hayward putting things together.

TJ Watt missing. Minicamp. Terry McLaurin missing. Minicamp. There's a lot of guys that are missing Minicamp for one reason or another. Most of them just business reasons. What are your thoughts on how some of these teams handle things and when you look at these guys, what do you think is probable outcomes for any of them? Well, I really appreciated Mike McDaniels candid honesty today saying John Newham Jalen

aren't there and I don't have updates on the trades and it's unfortunate they're not there because of business and for John New Smith's case, it sounds like he was sick and tired of hearing his name mentioned in trade talks. I'm not going to come to this. McLaurin obviously, contract situation, Stewart, rare rookie deal, Hendrickson contract situation. Then we got TJ White. You had JJ in there a week ago and JJ was like, I'm not talking on this. Obviously something's brewing. TJ Watt probably saw the off season in which Myles Garrett got paid what he got paid.

Saw some of these other top pass pressures being paid and says, well, what about me? Fortunately, he's got years left on his contract. Fascinating when you get these that go and bleed into this because the last thing you want is for it to dominate your training camp. And that is what the 49ers have had the last several years So this year they decided to nip it in the bud and pay their guys Purdy Warner Kittle before we even get to this point two different strategies

Do you play hardball? Do you play chicken? Do you let this thing drag on as a team or do you say what we want you you want to be done? Let's get it done now so we can avoid any drama heading into the season I believe a lot of 49ers people thought what was going on with Brandon Iuke last year that bled all the way into late August had a direct response to how the season went because everyone was dealing with that all summer. So to me, it's fascinating how these front offices work. Omar Khan obviously pulled a rabbit out of his hat and I think the Rodgers situation

might not have been as Seamless as everyone wants but right now it's kumbaya and you'll see him speak today and all is good This one though if you're a Steelers fan is almost more important because it's TJ Watt. It's one of ours It's our guy is our defensive player of the year and that's the heart and soul of our team Can we take care of that as well? Yeah, Aaron getting 10 million dollars guaranteed I think is great news for Pittsburgh Steelers fans and how they view it. TJ Watt, the last person introduced whenever the defense is introduced onto the field for at-home games. So obviously he's a pillar piece, but him potentially getting 35-40 million a year versus Aaron getting 10 million a

year, he's certainly the piece of the conversation in the entirety I'll be excited to see how Omar Khan gets TJ to sign it because everybody assumes TJ remains with the Pittsburgh Steelers But what if he isn't what if TJ watt isn't a Pittsburgh Steelers? That's not possible he's's a one helmet guy. Omar's going to get it done. Like you said, you talked about, we haven't paid the quarterbacks in what? Three years. We haven't had to pay a quarterback since Ben retired really.

Top of the market money. So like the money's out there. TJ is going to get paid. He's going to get what he deserves, which is a dollar more than Miles Garrett. And then we're just going to play football. Maybe it will be an actual dollar more. Now another guy you mentioned there, AJ has a question about. Yeah, Schrigs with Trey Henderson. Maybe it will be an actual dollar more. Now another guy you mentioned there, AJ has a question about.

Yeah, Shregs with Trey Henderson, personally, I don't think they come to terms and find a way to get him a new contract. I just feel like with what's been going on, him showing up in the golf clothes and speaking to the media to let everyone know his side of the story. I don't see a deal happen. What do you think personally happens with Trey in Cincinnati? And can they trade him? Where could he possibly go?

What do you think happens here before the season? This one's sticky because he's beloved and he's beloved in the locker room and the team really likes him. He mentioned on your show, he met his wife in Cincinnati, he had his kid in Cincinnati. He wants to be a Bangalore and simply saying, look at the market, it doesn't make sense

for what I'm being paid. I can tell you the Bangals approach this off season with two priorities. Somehow, some way getting T Higgins and Jamar Chase to remain at Cincinnati Bengals in their free agent contract years. And guess what? They did it. Then they get this bomb dropped on them around the combine that Trey Hendrickson wants to be paid 30, 40 million. And they don't, they didn't budget for that. They didn't prepare for that. Now they've had had some time with him not only speaking on your show But also speaking to the local media showing up in what appeared to be a golf attire. So here I am I'm gonna talk to you guys openly

There has been enough time if they wanted to get this done They could have figured this out and found a way to find the budget and the numbers before training camp They haven't moved heaven and earth to do that. So they're at a standstill right now and he's gone about it in such an unorthodox way. He's not going through an agent. He's not going on some podcast. He's like, I'm going to show up in my golf attire, be on the sidelines. And I am also going to go on McAfee and going to speak with Pat directly about how I feel. Everyone feels he's, he's a good guy and he's done this right. He's turning 31. They look at dollars and cents and they look at a pie as a budget and does this

pie make sense to have that much of our salary cap devoted to a guy who led the league in sacks last year but we don't know if he's the future of this franchise. So Trey Hendrickson saying with that being said let me go somewhere else. Yeah. Let me go somewhere else. Let me figure that out. And the Bengals are like, nah, you still want a contract with us, I think. Isn't that kind of,

you want me to trade away the sack king? Yeah, right. Yeah, right. And Trey Hendrickson's trying to do it the right way. Trying. Like, But it's the wrong way. He's trying hard.

It's so against the- That's the thing, I think that's interesting. So the right way might mean not necessarily, yes, he's talking openly and being transparent and putting his heart on his sleeve. That's the thing. I think that's interesting. So the right way might mean not fairly stupid. Yes He's talking openly and being transparent and putting his heart on his sleeve. He's also not living up to his contract Yeah, well, he would say I lived up way past my contract as I'm the sack king with how much I got paid In the entirety of it all but then with you saying he's missing mandatory mini camp Like that's also part of the contract and then Trey Henderson would say well I was here for a voluntary day. You saw me

I was in golf clothes so we can make one of those days go back to the other side His mindset like every time he comes on with us is very obviously He just don't want to like I do not want to have to do this, but I have to do this like I have it This is the way the world works now him following up and talking to local media I like I think that was kind of unexpected on our end. But it's like, Trey is, I think Duke knows, I think the Brown family knows, Katie, I think that like, is Trey gonna, will Trey hold out? Trey will skip games? We'll see. I hate testing a guy's loyalty like that. And you know, very quietly this off season, like Sam Hubbard's like the heart and soul of that building. And you know, and then you had Pratt yesterday, like these are, these are guys that, that were instrumental in beating the

Kansas city chiefs that year in the AFC championship game, instrumental in getting them back to the AFC championship game. The next year, you don't just snap your fingers and say, okay, we found those guys at the very least the thread to those defenses that coach Lou Anna Rumo had to this Al Golden defense could be the sack champion in trade. You'd like to see them figure out a way and the fact he wears his heart in His sleeve and here's the fans But it might not to the Blackburn ladies and it might not to Duke Tobin Yeah, we shall see Trey Henderson is a hell of a player. Gonna have a lot of teams interested, including Lou Anne Ramos, the team, honestly. Yeah.

I'm certain there'd be some interest in that. Now let's talk about the Indianapolis Colts because there is a situation brewing with the number four overall pick and a quarterback that is in an open competition with Daniel Jones. Go ahead, D-Buck. Yep, quarterback competition here

with Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones. Some unexpected news, at least for me. Anthony Richardson still dealing with this shoulder injury and then Kirk Cousins showing up in Atlanta to the mandatory stuff. Any chance if Anthony Richardson can't go this year that Kirk Cousins makes his way to Indianapolis? Oh!

I like that you would even suggest that, Diba, I respect it. I don't have any word of that. From right now, from what I'm hearing,'m hearing it sounds like cousins with his no trade clause After Rogers is see is fulfilled is gonna be an Atlanta Falcon and he's gonna be the backup to Michael Pennex And he's gonna collect every last cent of that contract. That's such a Kirk Cousins move What do you know about Anthony Richardson situation because Albert Brewer was on the Rich Eisen show yesterday And he basically said that Anthony is going burning sage getting bad

vibes. Yeah. Yeah. Especially because we're talking about this. Get the answers away. Get them out of here. Good vibes for this particular storyline because this is seemingly becoming a repeat episode here. He's going to see Dr. Neil Eltrosh is what Albert Brea reported on Rich Eisen's show to get a second opinion. Now obviously we know Dr. Neil Eltrosh for creating the Achilles factory where Aaron Rodgers was he's also short dude Neil Eltrash Neil Eltrash great hair great suits really good vibe big brain a lot of success rate he did the surgery on Anthony Richardson's shoulder that has been re aggravated do you know anything about this and what do you think expectation

levels are heading into training camp for AR? It's a setback and look Ella Trosh is the top of the game I don't need to do a commercial for Neil Ella Trosh, but we're talking about Matthew Stafford swears by him You're telling Andrew Whitworth swears by him. And of course Tom Brady also swears by him. So you're talking about This this particular it's not just an Achilles guy He's created the factory for Rodgers and Dobbins, and that's fine, but he's also the shoulder guy and the throwing guy.

So he's going to the right person, he's doing it, but I'm telling you, there's something about bringing in a Daniel Jones, who was a former sixth overall pick and has now got a giant chip on his shoulder. And there's something about vibes and year three of Shane Steichen and what are we doing? Chris Ballard is now on to another quarterback where sometimes the momentum in the locker room can shift. Even if you didn't do anything wrong or just

not there, this could be Daniel Jones grabbing this team by the collar and saying, hey, look, I'm going to be the one that leads us. And if he's not here and he's not on the field, give me that opportunity in July, give me that opportunity in July and give me that opportunity in August. Anthony Richardson, look Ballard and Stiken, their names on this fourth overall pick, their name is on that. That is no doubt. But Daniel Jones could also be the hot guy and also the guy that has something to

prove and just takes this team by storm in July to true quarterback competition. And this is not good news for Anthony Richardson, no matter how you look at it. Anthony Richardson missing reps obviously not great. He needs reps that's what he's needed his entire career because he didn't play that much in high school and college. His upside obviously immense injuries have kept him off the field. Other things have taken him off the field as well including being tired. I mean there is a lot to learn for Anthony Richardson at the quarterback position legitimately on the field and off the field. We knew that though whenever he got drafted. I have been frustrated in the past by the way some things have gone because I'm at every single game so I watch. I see what

the sideline is, I see what's happening in between the huddles, I see what's happening in between the plays, I know who's talking to who, I know how things go because we're literally on the field so I have a little bit of a different perspective. I also care deeply about the Indianapolis Colts I think that was pretty evident over the last few weeks How much a lot of people care about the Indianapolis Colts and that are say family as a whole So whenever we're seeing it kind of get mismanaged or mistreated or seemingly getting taken from or being let down It's like there's a lot of people that are bummed out about the way

Some of the operations had gone from the quarterback position with Anthony Richardson But then you automatically get reset and saying like he was so young he was so this was a part of the process this was a part of the process and I had changed my mind that I was going to be openly supportive of Anthony Richardson because that would be the best thing for Anthony Richardson and the best thing for Anthony Richardson Would be the best thing for the Indianapolis Colts because of his upside But if he re-injured the same shoulder that he got surgery on you have to wonder then did surgery not take Is there some setback in rehab? Is there a reason it didn't work like there's so many questions now

Because all these reps matter to the development of Anthony Richardson Which is the only thing that we can kind of hang our hat on is that Anthony Richardson is going to develop. So then he immediately turned like, well, is Daniel Jones going to be the guy? I got a chance to see him. He is huge. He is gigantic. He's also young. You know, I think you're only paying him 10 million bucks this year or whatever the case

is. He still is like 28, I think, or something like that. You can play another 10 years if he. Yeah. And I'll say something like that. He can play another 10 years if he... Yeah, and I'll say something about this. You look at what Kevin O'Connell and those guys did last year with Sam Darnold. Do you know who joined that team mid-season and put a really good bunch of practices on paper? So good that the Vikings were pursuing Daniel Jones to resign as a backup quarterback, knowing that there was a chance they would not be able to resign him because there would be a demand.

There was a market for Daniel Jones, the Vikings, the Colts, and I know a couple other teams were all very interested in Daniel Jones. So this isn't some guy on his last stop. I think the giant situation went as it went, it got paid, didn't live up to the contract, got hurt. And then I think last year, taking that year, that half year, the humble pie of what happened in New York and then signing in Minnesota and being in that room for a little bit, learning from O'Connell and then being courted as a free agent, like this is a new lease on

life for Daniel Jones and I think there's a lot of maturity that goes into that. I'm not sure if Anthony Richardson has been through all of that yet as an NFL player. Yeah there's a chance Anthony Richardson and once again I'm hoping it is just soreness that they're over cautious about and there's a chance Anthony Richardson, and once again I'm hoping it is just soreness that they're over cautious about and he's back by training camp and we can have an actual quarterback competition because once again Anthony Richardson's upside is, I mean you're talking fadeaway 72 yard throw. I mean that's the first game of the season. I mean and him running his speed everything that he has now Daniel Jones too. Yeah, oh, yeah, you know Jones runs hard. Daniel Jones is fast Daniel Jan Jones over on rush yards every single game is basically a lock

Yeah, because even the odds makers look at Daniel Jones They go 2% ain't gonna be able to run over 17 yards and then he gets into open field And if a line doesn't trip him which sometimes yard line have got him before He's wide-ass. Oh, I mean he is a threat on the ground and let alone he is big. Boom, boom, boom. And Shane's like, yes, that's a tough, he's huge. And in Shane's Stikens offense, like your quarterback being able to run is a massive, that's almost a bigger deal than the throws. And if Daniel Jones obviously gotten better, maybe our offense will be able to go and if Anthony Richardson is out I will be eager to see what they do at the quarterback position and if they bring or try to bring anybody in. Okay let's talk about some moves that were made

over the last 24 hours or so. The Green Bay Packers now all of a sudden are thin very thin at a position. Go ahead Ty. Yeah Shregs what ultimately happened with the Jumper Alexander situation obviously we've talked to you a little bit. You had dinner with Matt LaFleur the night before we saw you in Green Bay. And it sounded like after this whole thing started and he was going to be gone, then it was like, no, he's coming back. He's going to be a packer. Obviously, he got released yesterday.

They cleared up quite a bit of cap space. But what are you hearing about this situation and where are some potential landing spots for Jair Alexander? Because I've already heard Minnesota and boy would that fucking suck. First let me raise my hand there. It wasn't erroneous reporting, however I was wrong. I thought they would figure it out based on my conversations, not only with LaFleur, with people on both sides and knowing that it was just a money issue. Let's figure out the money issue. At the end of the day, Jair Alexander didn't want to take a pay cut and the Packers thought it was just a money issue. Let's figure out the money issue. At the end of the day, Jair Alexander didn't want to take a pay cut.

And the Packers thought it was fair after two years of him only playing so many games that we talk about a contract restructure. And to his credit, Jair Alexander said, $17 million is not top of the market. When I'm on the field, I am worth that. And I am not taking a pay cut based on injury that I have unfortunately been able to deal with the last

couple of years and play through in a lot of ways. So he's going to bet on himself and the Packers, they said, well, we're not betting on that. We don't think you are available for us. And they have three young corners who they really like. That said, they're in minicamp right now and I'm seeing Bo Melton, a receiver out of, you know, Rutgers being played at cornerback because they're so thin right now. There you go. You have it. Because Mike Robertson and Taylor King are up. You don't want to do that either. That said, um,

I wasn't wrong when I said things were trending the right way. What I was wrong was that I was assuming that they would figure things out. To Jair Alexander's credit, you don't want to take a pay cut. I think I'm worth that. And let's see if he can make more elsewhere because the Packers are going to eat a huge amount of his salary cap cap regardless with dead space. I do wonder if it was the holdup on the sea They've been make sense. We want to be captain the game was in Charlotte. Should you know better in the floor? Yeah, it's his home I just don't think before news my homes. I mean you you can't be happy. Yeah, Bo Mel Bay packs get the guy we It's just the green bay packs get the guy we move. We drafted in six rounds They really never just toss him out there and hey, maybe he'll be our starting cornerback next year. What are we doing?

What are you talking about Travis hunters? That's all the rage right now. Yeah, he's a generational talent. He's not a He's not a six-round receiver out of Rutgers for Christ's sake you kidding me go get Jalen Ramsey Stop fucking around with this shit Bo Melton is gonna play cornerback for the Green Bay Packers next year. I don't think so He's had a couple I mean look at the way All good after the Matthew golden drafted I thought we put this put this to bed. We said Mad Mel was, Mad Mel was gone. We found happy Mel. We found happy time, but here we're reverting back

to our old selves here. It's June. Yeah, it is. We got a lot of time to find corners. Yeah. Cause there's a bunch of good ones. Stephans out there. Gilmore's out there.

Yeah. Gilmore. Xavier. Ramsey makes sense. Jayler Alexander's out there. He is. Yeah, your Alexander's out there. Yes We already got Bo Melton No, he might be available though. He's six round pick. There's no problem. There's no problem You know, you know the coach Louie and Aruma might need to look at some Bo Melton tape and also

Other teams might need to start looking at the fifth sixth wide receiver and be like, how's drop it works how's your drop let's get you a Rob the mops key has posted a great rep of Bo Melton oh yes he just cut off yeah I mean Richard Sherman started as a wide tall lanky boat put those paws on he's from Rutgers to you know Rutgers tough physical hard nose All right, let's talk about some players that are at uh camp that I think are a little bit of a surprise Go ahead tone Yeah, uh my ears perked up when you mentioned James cook earlier and you talked about his agent being in the Shamar Stewart conversation It was a little surprising that he was

Reporting today. Maybe it's because he has not made as much money yet as all the other players who are not reporting Was this surprising to you? And is this do you think this will be like a potential hold in situation? Or do you think do you think something eventually gets done with James Cook before the final year of his contract? I'll tell you I'm pleasantly surprised I feel like James Cook and his representatives have been quite vocal about their desire for a new deal and judging by the way things were going, I didn't expect him to show his face, but he's there and I respect it. I respect it whether he's doing 20 drills or not. The fact that he's there, I think it's a lot to

do with that he wants to be a Buffalo Bill. But we've talked about this, the numbers, they did not make sense to Brandon Bean when we were talking about it at the combine. They did not make sense to Brandon Bean. We're talking about after they re-upped all those other guys to new extensions. They're not going to give him Derek Henry or Saquon Barkley money. They're just not, I don't see that happening. It's just not what they're budgeting for. That said, I think they would love to have James Cook, who is maybe their best offensive player outside of Josh Allen on the field. So let's see if they can figure it out. But a good sign, even if it's just an olive branch, you know that, hey, I'm going to be there in present

as now one of the veteran leaders of this offense, but he is grossly underpaid now, but for what numbers that we were hearing tossed around, those didn't really add up with reality for what they were looking to spend on running back. New OC up there, Mr. Brady, loves James Cook. Yes. Absolutely loves James Cook.

I think James Cook loves where NFL football is headed as well. Obviously he saw the Saquon Barkley lead Philadelphia Eagles go win the Super Bowl, then Saquon get broken off. I think James Cook loves everything about that. If James puts up another great year, and I know this sucks, especially at the running back

position with how many hits you have to take and how dangerous it is, you know, if he doesn't get a deal done now, he puts up another great year, and I know this sucks, especially the running back position with how many hits you have to take And how dangerous it is, you know, if he doesn't get a deal done now He puts up another massive year there's going to be big market for James Cook. I mean obviously i'm speaking something that is very obvious But that is probably what I assume bean is saying to James Cook. I assume James Cook's agent has also said like hey if unless we really Hold out which we don't want to do, there is big money around the corner for a James Cook in this current NFL. It's just like, hopefully he gets that money sooner than later. Cause I love watching them play for him. I love him on that team too. I think he fits that team. And he was so good in that AFC champion or the AFC championship game. He had that run

on Fort that it's one of the best runs you'll ever see where he extends over the goal line and it's like he belongs about this is the one I I think it's most under maybe this and Julio's catching the Super Bowl are like the most underrated plays in NFL history of just athleticism just sheer Amazing balance from him and no no other player can do that right now. That is James Cook. He's that good So let's get this done. Let's keep them in the Bills uniform, but at the number that they were asking for I don't think it was even close. Yeah, what was the number they were asking for? I don't know but from what I remember hearing from people in Buffalo that the combine there It was like out of hand how they were even talking about it

So hopefully we could figure it out and make a number that's more reasonable and in line with what the running back position Makes that said if the Eagles are paying Stquon and the Ravens are paying Henry, and they're that age, why not pay James? And if that's how you're winning games, I mean, that's a whole, another conversation, another conversation about paying people. And I don't want to go back to it. Sheriff Seely's got no shot with that college sports commission. We thought about it.

Have you thought about that anymore, AJ? Yeah, no chance. I mean, yeah, he's getting sued from 5,000 different players. How does he, how do you say no to a deal? Like how do you say that isn't in a proper marketing? If someone offers you this amount of money for this, for these terms, like then how can you say, hey, no, that's not in line with what he is worth?

Believe me, our deals that have not been properly represented publicly have been said to be way overpriced. Little do people know the number is, you would think even more so, I think for some of the deals that I've negotiated. But who says that that's not the proper number, especially because we've already earned that money back for said companies that we already know about. But if the deals that I was negotiating with companies had to be presented to some other dipshit who's never done a deal or that's the only amount of money that they were able to negotiate or they weren't able to think

of ideas to regain that amount of money for the company that you're negotiating with how is that even anywhere near an acceptable process I don't know anti-american it is schools control it could they do it that way the schools control the salary cap which is gonna be like 14 and a half million. These are all the NIL deals that have to get approved by a committee that makes it's in the fair market range. It's like who says what the range is. Miles Garret got 40 million dollars. Softball girl. Yeah, Nigerian Kennedy. Nigerian Kennedy got a million bucks. So what's the going rate? 50,000, 100,000?

I don't know what it is. Maybe 25,000, even less than that. Then some of those. Was that Cooper flag number real? I thought that was a little bit inflated. What'd they say? I don't even know if it was reported in. They said 28.

I think there was shoe, I think there was a lot of maybe like five year deals that were potentially. Like his converse deal or whatever his shoe deal was, I think in that number. But that might've been a three year deal too. That might've been just, but whatever the case, still a lot of money. But the softball girl uh Niger and she delivered

she was awesome for them yeah but what when they present that to a a committee and they say hey they want to pay him a million or pay her a million bucks everybody else is making 150 000 200 000 a tie-in it's like who says that a million isn't enough but we all disagreed she was definitely worth it. I never heard of Texas tech softball until this weekend. And I'm watching because of her. And you got my homes in the stands, like cheering. Like she was that dominant.

It was worth every penny. Bingo. But whenever they would have pitched that number, which I think they were, other schools were saying, we're not paying that no way that rain, that committee would have said, no way will we do that. It's like, I don't know how I and I generally don't know what the answer is. I don't want to be just the person saying like hey this ain't gonna be good but because I don't have any answers so

I'm part of the problem not a part of the solution so I apologize for that but it's like they're gonna have to figure out how that works because I don't know how you say no to a company wanting to pay a human amount of money. Sheriff Seeley figured out. Yeah he'll crack down. He's gonna have to. Sheriff human amount of money. Sheriff Sealy, you figured it out. Yeah, it'll crack down. He's going to have to. Sheriff will get it done. I appreciate this man saying I'll take on the task.

Yeah. But this is better him than me. Amen, Trent. And that was happening with Saban. Remember, people were pushing Saban's name out there. Saban's about to do it. And I was talking to people, not Coach Saban himself, because I didn't want to put him in a spot to give me an answer. Then I would have to

say, you know, I talked to him, but people directly around him were like, we're signing coach Saban up for that at 70. We're signing him up to fix all the college. That's a, that's a deep job. Good luck, Sealy. I still don't know how you turn down a any offer. I don't know how that's going to happen. It's legally that seems impossible But if we were to make a bet it would be on what Schragers brain says would not be the case without a doubt with the draft And also I think he picked the Super Bowls for a while And then also he seemingly understands the cultures in different buildings and where they're at good comment Yeah, straight last year in the preseason

You said hey Don't be surprised if the Washington commanders go on a hell of a run. And it turns out they end up going to the NFC championship. Do you have a read on your favorite kind of dark horse team out of nowhere this year? Loved what you said on get up this morning about the Chargers. They're still in the chiefs division, so who cares? But who do you think is one of those teams that kind of rises from the ashes this year and revitalizes their entire team? Yeah look I said last year

everywhere before the season that they would have a Houston Texans like turnaround I didn't think they would go to the NFC championship game and the commanders what they did was they just said let's rip it all down and build it all up now that started with a head coach an offensive coordinator a new GM and then they got a new GM, and then they got a new quarterback. The closest thing that you're going to find to that right now is the Chicago Bears in that they have all new coaching staff, all these new players, a new offensive line, and they have a quarterback in Caleb Williams, who it seems is all there,

but I have to see and learn a little bit more and see how this Ben Johnson Caleb thing goes before I jump in. On paper, they're the team that did it. On paper, they're the team that gave their quarterback everything. On paper, they're the team that rebuilt the whole franchise in a matter of an offseason, and that's what I always look for. That's what D'Amico did with CJ Stroud and they got Will Anderson right after. So it's all there, but like I'm not sold on Caleb yet. I got a see training camp because Ben Johnson's offense and I've known Ben for a long time. He's a cerebral guy in that, you know, he and golf had to put a lot of time into that where everything was timing based.

Everything is like you count to three here, you look there and everything that Caleb Williams has been up to this point has been freestyle, off schedule, willy-nilly, freelance. Let me use my athleticism. Can you combine the two and get that Mahomes Andy Reid marriage where it's like, here's the play and I know you've got all the athleticism, but if we could put this together and you could just trust me on timing, we can make this work? Well, then yeah, the Bears will be that team.

I have to see it first before I make that prediction. But on paper, the Bears are your Texans from two years ago and your commanders from a year ago. That'll be Zeed. Zeed celebrate back there. Big fist bumps from Zeedo raising the roof, roof, roof, roof, roof, raising the roof, roof, roof. Where are you guys gonna play football at?

We shall see. We don't know, we don't know. Jared Goff, Jared Goff like the epitome of a robot quarterback, you know? But he did it perfectly. Yes. Everything that he is great at, Ben Johnson used and made perfect. And Ben said, I think I've never had a quarterback with the ability that Caleb has as well to kind of add in the off-script stuff.

I can't wait to watch them too. And they invested in the offensive line. They seemingly invested in everything. It's good to Shregs. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to jump in. It's like some of the stuff that used to drive Kyle Shanahan nuts with Garoppolo is that it's like,

hey, just throw it a point A, point B, and Jimmy would have to like do something crafty in the pocket and try to make something more of it. And that would enrage Kyle Shanahan. Then he gets Brock Purdy and it's like, Brock Purdy, throw here. And Brock Purdy throws there. He's like a robot sometimes with what Kyle wanted.

That's going to be Ben Johnson with Caleb. Does Caleb, can Caleb play within that framework of, don't go off script, don't do what you think is necessary for the extra bigger play. Just trust me, we'll get there. I don't know. But extend the play when it is available. That's also why he was hands down the number one pick

because of that ability. And even Brock Purdy, like he's a guy that can play within the system, but he's also a guy when it breaks down can scramble for 16 and break your back. So all the things they did in the off season right there were straight, especially Loveland too. Going up and getting Loveland, pairing them up with Komet. Rome's going into a big second year, DJ Moore coming off a career year. So yeah, all the pieces are there for Chicago.

Quarterbacks gotta be the hardest. I mean, it's so important. Yeah. Just the amount- And look at. Quarterbacks gotta be the hardest. I mean, it's so important. Yeah. And look at who they drafted second and third overall. You got Jaden and Drake May just like breathing on them. And that's the same city that that that Trubisky was taken before Mahomes and Deshaun Watson.

So like they've been down this road. I think there's a lot of believers in Caleb. Ben Johnson would not have taken that job. He could have gone to any of these jobs. He would not have taken that job if he didn't want to be with Caleb Williams. I just personally, and I'm not hating it. I just need to see it first. I haven't seen it yet.

Yeah, it sounds like anytime you say, I'm not hating on him. You're hating on him. Sounds like, yeah. Sounds like there's a little bit of that. And with Caleb, I think he understands that the NFL world, you know, because in college he's obviously spectacular.

He comes in at Oklahoma. I think he came in the Red River rivalry game and took that thing over there, you know, cause in college he's obviously spectacular. Comes in at Oklahoma. I think he came in the Red River rivalry game and took that thing over there chanting his name. I remember that was a moment in college football that year. Then obviously he goes out to USC with Lincoln Riley, becomes a spectacle showcase that he is. Comes undoubtedly the number one overall pick. He even had people saying like, are you going to be the team that passes on Caleb Williams?

Like that's how Caleb Williams was being talked about coming out of college in the NFL goes to Chicago It goes how it goes. He's already on his third offensive coordinator. I think Oh, yeah, third offensive coordinator and then this story Thomas Brown and now now we've got this and Obviously, that's a lot of shit to go from like the God to like okay now you've got to like humble yourself in the middle of this entire thing and Pat they didn't they didn't even meet with Jaden Daniels they didn't even meet with Drake May this was handed to him in a way that is very unorthodox in the draft where it's like you're the guy you don't need to take another pro day with anybody you don't need to visit anybody you. You're our guy. And so there's a lot, there's a lot,

there's a lot that goes. There's a lot going on with this guy. It's a big city, big fan base, big market, big franchise. Hasn't been great for a long time. They've invested a lot. Ben Johnson has been great. The expectation is Ben Johnson is going to be good. Will the quarterback be good?

Don't like that. I like that version of him that fired up. I want to see that. Yeah. Yeah. A little fire. A little fun. He has a lot of pizzazz.

He does. He has a lot of pizzazz with the fire. Fire. The cool bear claw. Yeah. Remember those days? Oh yeah. Those were fun days.

Yeah. I haven't seen it in a while. That was like the pre-jet season started with Aaron Rodgers days. Yeah. Do you remember how much fun those days were? Oh my god. Hard knocks. I jumped all in. I dove in. I dove in. I was like, oh my gosh, he took Solomon Thomas to a Broadway play. I'm in. That one drive he had against the Niners in week one. Oh. They just walked down the field. So good. How are you as a swimmer? Schrags, pretty good swimmer or no. So good. How, um, how are you as a swimmer? Shreg's pretty good swimmer or no? Pretty good.

Pretty good. Yeah, I could swim. I could do a little medley. Let's go. Oh, really? You got them all. I could butterfly. I'll butterfly that ass.

Let me go. We need you to get on some juice and we need to get you in these, uh, we need you to get on some juice and we need to get you in these. We need you to butterfly that ass in the enhanced game. Imagine Shregs on all the juice. She's showing up to that thing. My God. Is this the butterfly? Yeah, over the top. This is the breast? Yeah. Is this the butterfly? Yeah, over the top. That's the butterfly, you know.

This is the breast? Yeah. Yep. Backstroke. Backstroke. And then freestyle. Forward is freestyle. And then we're.

Little elementary side stroke too, if you want. Just a little, you just gotta do this. Okay, you're a Navy SEAL. Take me to Parris Island, let's go! Shregs? Shregs, I'll tell you, I don't know if you want to go down to Paris Island. Just take your boy, man. I don't think I would last a second in Paris Island.

That place was incredible. That place was absolutely incredible. Dude, I commend you. Hats off to you so much for even coming. That had to be a life-changing experience. I did Fort Bragg a couple years back with Fox, and it was, it's still, to this day, one of the coolest experiences of my life. I went on a USO tour Over to Japan went to a bunch of different bases over there obviously here in Indiana. There's a couple different bases

I've done a lot of stuff with the military Very thankful to get to know a lot of people that have been in the military and all that first time ever at a boot camp You know, so that's my first time kind of witnessing it Thank God they're still around. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. I thought that I said this yesterday and I don't want to reiterate it too much, but I

thought I thought that wasn't around anymore. I thought there wasn't any of that. We're going to be okay. We're going to be a okay. I think Shregs can make it. I mean, I would love to see Grok Grock push eggs in those yellow footprints right next Come on Grock. Do you? Grock make sure you understand what the make his footprints extra yellow

Don't let him pee his pants do not have a pee stain on the paint or poop they thought about calling him prime prince, but Kind of keep those in AJ has a question for you, Schrags. Schrags, with Aaron Rodgers signing in Pittsburgh, what are your expectations for this Steelers team this year? Obviously it feels like it's a little, I guess Steelers fans might be, I don't know, not getting too far, not putting the cart before the horse, whatever you wanna call it.

They seem to, they kinda rein it in, but what do you expect out of this team? Yeah, I have two big thoughts on this that I'd love to share with you guys. The first thing is this misnomer that like, Rogers wouldn't fit in in Pittsburgh because he's just like crunchy granola, Northern California guy.

I've known Aaron a long time when it comes to football and AJ, you know this, there is no one more dialed in. And furthermore, who are the coaches he's really connected the most with? Mike McCarthy, Western Pennsylvania. Tom Clements, Western Pennsylvania. Alex Van Pelt, Western Pennsylvania. Frank Signetti, like we can go down to Ben McAdoo.

All these guys are Western PA guys and they've hit it off with Rogers in a real way. So I think he will fit that city and will fit that culture. I also like the fact they're not asking him to be the savior now Of course gotta be the quarterback number one of the Pittsburgh Steelers all eyes are on you that's all gonna come with it But like it's not the jet situation where it's like it's all on his shoulders And he he's going out to you know dinner at Carbone in New York City with sauce Gardner Who's 21 years younger than him like it's not there's cam Hayward. There's TJ watt

Hopefully there's DK Metcalf. There it's not, there's Cam Hayward, there's T.J. Watt, hopefully. There's D.K. Metcalf. There are guys there and there's Mike Tomlin. So I think for one year, $10 million with incentives, like this is a no-brainer. And all the stuff that we were moaning and groaning about in the media the past three months, trust me, Arthur Smith was building an offense for Aaron Rodgers, whether he knew he was coming or not. It's not like they got caught with their pants around their ankles saying, oh, wait a second, we got, oh, he's signing, let's go build an offense.

Like they've had time to build this thing, it's just an install now. And hey, don't worry about all the other nonsense. We got football and you've got one year, let's make the most of it, I like it. Yeah, we like it as well. And I think most Pittsburgh Steelers fans have come around on the fact that this is a much better off

Option than anything else they had at this particular point And there's also a chance at the end of the season last year Aaron Rodgers is Achilles out of the Achilles factory Was just getting healthy for the first time and he was moving throwing the Jets offense Look like how everybody had fantasized that that Jets offense would look two years prior to that for like four games. Way too little, way too late for that Jets run, but if you carry that into the Pittsburgh Steelers with some of the guys that are still available, you know. I mean they are loaded at every single spot on the defense, so hopefully the defense carries them while the offense and Aaron, you know, kind of learn each other and they can run the football,

which we know Artie wants to do they added Some running backs this offseason as well as DK Metcalf. So I yeah, I think things are high right now in Steelers town Cool look at those first four weeks though By the way Shregs the fact that you didn't tell or lost you to fuck off the other day when he when he said all right He said maybe maybe the Browns in the first six weeks No, it's a as far as a schedule goes, it sets up really nicely early for them to get. I love Dan and then Dan is the guy that I would like consider, you want to talk about, you know, someone you love doing TV with, Dan's great on TV and he's fun to barter with, banner with. He was saying like, there's no way in hell they could be,

he wouldn't say hell, he's a religious man. There's no way in hell they could beat. He wouldn't say hell. He's a religious man. There's no way in HEDW hockey sticks that you could see that the Steelers could beat the Ravens in the eight. I'm like, I just watched the commanders playing an NFC championship game. I got to saw it my own two eyes. It could happen. It's not crazy. They said the NFL. I saw the Jaguars play in an AFC championship game in Foxborough and come one Stefan Gilmore play away from going to the Super Bowl like I've seen it it's crazy

that's the NFL yeah great in the Pittsburgh Steelers win games and the Pittsburgh Steelers know the Baltimore Ravens pretty good those games are always gonna be one score games I mean there's a some stat about stats or about some spreads over four and a half or five and a half in between the Steelers and the Ravens game like even three I think it's three and a half yeah three and a half I guess anything over three and a half or five and a half in between the Steelers and the Ravens game. I think it was three and a half. Yeah, three and a half. I guess anything over three and a half, you take the points in the Ravens Steelers. That's how those games go.

So yes, on the playoffs, I got the crap kicked out of them. Yeah, that was bad. They ran for 700 yards, but we got that figured out. There's only been one losing quarterback under Mike Tomlin. Who is that, Trex? Mitchell Trebisky. What's up, man? Can't believe you couldn't think of that today.

He said it was Duck. It was Duck. Hodges took him to the playoffs. He did. Quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack. That's what they were saying. Bingo. When Duck Hodges was the quarterback. And now he's living his best life. Yeah. Wonderful life.

I mean, his wife is a superstar in country music and Duck Hodges is doing his thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What? Are they married? Is that not right? Or at least engaged. I thought, yeah, they're engaged.

I didn't think they were married. Sorry. Shrinks? Now Shrinks? No, no, I don't think they're married and I like my serious highway 56 I like listening to that but I don't know anything about the gossip I got nothing else Doc's out there calling Doc still I do know that everyone's one who'll remind everybody remember the name Doc is because I'm a world champion Doc caller world champion duck caller. Yeah. World champion? Yeah. World champion. Best duck caller in the world.

Yes. Amazing. Like two times. Yeah. Dude, those ducks have no chance. They think he is an actual fucking duck down there. They're flying around, and he's down there just working his. Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack.

You saw that? These ducks up there are like, holy shit. That's tight. That's tight. They go down there. They think it's not. It's duck with a shotgun. Psh, psh.

Bah. Pow, pow, pow. Yeah. Wow. not it's Doc. We're the shotgun Yeah, wow, yeah following Football doc football then he put him in a football game for the Pittsburgh Steelers and he just finds a way to win Yeah, remember that one day night against the Chargers I remember well in LA in LA or in San Diego and duck char and duck Hodges lit him up Legend that's not college football. Yeah, so I don't know if he's doing real estate or insurance But whatever he's doing if he's selling it, we're buying it. Oh Quite quite buddy. You done good as have you Schrager you Emmy award-winning handsome lad who's a good swimmer

We'll swim our way into the digital only version of this particular program We'll be back tomorrow be a friend tell the friends something nice. It might change their life as Schrag's phone falls. What is that? That's that weird AI thing. I got like the update on it where like it follows you. There you go. It's doing it again. I don't know. I got to turn it off.

That's PTZ. That's Foxy in the back on my side. Okay. All right. Yours is like tracks you, right? That's an iPad. I know. Yeah. It's something.

I don't know. The government's following me. I have no idea what's going on. You have no idea. It's been an iPad. I know. Yeah, it's something I don't know the government's following me. I have no idea what's going on Yeah, I do. It's been a real day Karen. Yeah, you All the mentalist got me today and now my iPad is following me from all angles We have that we had we have that ready there. It's all the beginning of your show. Oh, that's crazy I'm all I was with the people online like enough with the o's a little bit and then I got and it happened to me And I just I'm gonna change forever. It was incredible. It's right. We were we're the exact same way. We saw him on TV

He was getting a lot of hype Schefters like hey, I'm kind of his manager or whatever like oh great now this guy's getting force-fed I didn't know that in every single team. I think he's a friend slash manager or something along those lines Okay, so then he's at every single team. He's putting out clips with everybody. We're like, we get it, dude. We get it. Then you experience it for the first time. Was that your first time live around him? Yes.

First time ever meeting him. He was on Rogan this week. I happened to listen to him for three hours. I'm like, I've got my fill of my cup. And then he did this to me in person. And I'm like, I'm absolutely blown away. This man is very, very impressive. Did he, did he fuck with you a little bit off camera too?

Cuz that's when he really gets you to understand that this is the real deal Like we thought this story earlier about what he did to Darius what he did to me I think there was some stuff off air with AJ that happened as well. Just kind of off the cuff Hey, how you doing? Let me let you know that I fucking know everything you're thinking right now really quickly and that was That was the weird part like I like I'm good. I don't need to do any like pre pre show stuff with O's. And then they were like, go, go, go chat with O's. I'm like, all right.

So I'm chatting with them and he's just chatting. But we're not talking about any of the stuff he brought on to the show. And then we're doing small talk about me. And I'm like, all right, let me get out there. And he's like, think of an NBA superstar, which is a very vague term. Could be anything. And I'm like, all right. And for whatever reason, I'm like, I'm going to go dream out there. And he's like, think of an NBA superstar, which is a very vague term, could be anything. And I'm like, all right, for whatever reason, I'm like, I'm gonna go Draymond Green,

which might not even be considered. I mean, in today's climate, there's 10 other players and we can talk about who, but like that might not be one of the guys. And he's like, write down the name of any NBA superstar. And I wrote down Draymond Green, and he's like, you're thinking of Draymond Green. I'm like, what the, it was crazy.

It makes no sense. And the off, that little off combo that he's having with you I think he's trying to figure out if he can crack India and then as soon as as soon as he finds out info He's got no time for you. All right, let's get the fuck out of here Let me just make sure this isn't the same thing as me. Hey, talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me What's your favorite? Yeah, I've got it. Okay. Thank you. You can fucking leave now You can go ahead and get out. How was he?

You're looking at coffee. No, that was, that was quick. Yeah, he just wanted to find out if he can crack your skull or not. That's all he wanted to know. He had to plant Draymond Green because he spelled out get up. Yeah, that was the crazy, isn't that how it all kind of comes together too? It's wild. Fucking guy. I mean, if you were to ask any of you guys to name an NBA superstar,

any of you thinking of Draymond Green off the top of your head? No. I was thinking Bob Cousy. Smart. Bob Cousy. Yeah yeah. If he said NBA Goat maybe. Could you imagine if you if you drop a Cousy reference? There's been a couple times where he's asked me a question and I hadn't been paying attention close enough because I was still trying to figure out what the fuck he just did so then he asked me a question I'm like oh I was not paying attention were there any precursors on what I'm supposed to think? Because like, I need, that's a piece of information you do need, like what am I supposed to think of here? Because what if I'm thinking of something that isn't even in a category, then I clearly am ruining the entire gimmick. That's happened to me three times now with him.

Because I'm thinking about the previous thing that he did, then he asked me, I'm like, oh fuck, I thought we were done. No, you need more from me. What was Belichick, I remember watching it in real time, but like off-camera. What was Bella checks reaction to that guy? I think you said man a couple times. Yeah He was a part of John to date during the whole thing. Hey, he just predicted first date. Oh wow. Yeah. Oh cool It was the thing alright Triggs what should we be paying attention to that we're not paying attention to right now, you think? Whole world.

I'm curious to see how, I'm curious to see how this Jets thing goes as off season. They tore it all down and everyone's flying high, but there's some questions here in New York as to whether or not this young coaching staff and the young GM and the young quarterback, it's all gonna come together. There is no expectations with the Jets.

So they might be a little sleeper team as well. Oh, you like them as a dark horse. They'll probably stink. Yeah. All right. The sleeper is in like, no one's talking about them whatsoever in the spotlights off.

And let's see how these young guys play. Look, the fact that sauce and Garrett Wilson showed up today with their contract situations up in the air. I like that also. Yeah, me too. I like Aaron Glenn. Yeah, no one's talking about the New York City teams. No one does that. It's never a conversation. Speaking of how are you enjoying the finals?

Are you watching the finals? They said lowest game two since 2009. Yeah, it's his fault. He's not watching. I've been watching. I'm telling you, I thought game one was one of the greatest finals games. That was the coolest thing. And I said to everyone I was with And I was with a group of people I'm like I will never count this team out when they're down thank you nine with seven minutes left and they did it again Yes, they're a special team but this this Thunder team when they get it going. It's like a locomotive So you just got to stop them from getting it going. I really enjoyed this matchup I think it's good Tyrese how the ball game right there point three seconds left on the clock I don't keep it moving John Halliburton in the building no selling the entire thing

I think there's a chance if he was courtside we would have seen a little bit of something something out of pops Hopefully he's back for game three nonetheless Tyrese Halliburton has made a lot of big shots game two Didn't make anything until fourth quarter whenever he really turned it up But even then you talk about never counting us out We were down like 15 was like two minutes left three minutes I was like wait a minute can we make a run this thing and then we stopped everybody out and was like you know time of the yep time of day three minutes left New York Nick fans now are freaking out over who

the next coach is gonna be and whether it's Kevin Durant and that's the life of a Knicks fan every offseason it's's what's next we turn the page, but to me Let's let's enjoy Isaiah Joe taking on obi topping for four more days Who is gonna be the coach over there Jason kid I heard right so they're saying Wendy was saying and I don't know Is that red or red hour back? I don't know Jason kid is there sure Fine. I don't know. I'm saying I'm with you on that. I don't know Is Jason kid suddenly gonna be the one that gets us over the top? Yeah, he gets Cooper flag and Anthony Davis and Kyrie and running away from the fabrics gonna let him out of New York Yeah, why would he leave and then let's talk about Malone wouldn't Malone be the guy? Yeah

Malone might be the guy because his dad Brendan Malone is a longtime assistant in New York and he's got all these awards but like if you think Tibbs runs guys hard and is tough on playing young players and getting that's Mike Malone's whole rap I don't know if we need to go down that road again. Who did Stephen A Smith say Mark Jackson? He did bring out Mark Jackson. Is he still? Nick New York City guy I don't know if that's happening. I like the guy in Houston. He made a doka, but it sounds like they're not gonna ever let him out for anything.

To me, that's who I would be targeting. Why would he do that again? Houston, Young, Loaded. Yeah, they got money. Don't you wanna be in New York with all the bright lights in the New York City? Like, that's the whole thing. Yeah, fire.

The coach is just- You're taking me to the conference final? Yeah, bingo. Yeah, that's what you wanna do. You wanna get fired. Yeah. Just let Rick Brunson run the show. He already is.

Just make it official. And they're talking about getting Kevin Durant. They don't have any picks. They got to trade- They got to trade Kat. They got to trade Kat, which I'm not sure- although I'll say this, Durant, I like Durant. I've been, you know, Durant's a killer on offense, and if any snap of a finger, he could score 21 points in the fourth. I wouldn't be so opposed to it. I know a lot of my Knicks fans are running for the hills from Kevin Durant's a killer on offense and if any snap of a finger he could score 21 points in the fourth like I wouldn't be so

Opposed to it I know a lot of my Knicks fans are like running for the hills from Kevin Durant because 37 years old and isn't exactly defensive stalwart anymore But to me you're never out of a game with Kevin Durant, especially if he's got a chip on his shoulder I would take Durant. Just get another lanky wing player You're calling Kevin Durant just another no not Macau bridges he's a little What are you talking about? Another, you're calling Kevin Durant just another? No, no.

He's not Macal Bridges, he's a little different. They got Bridges, they got OG. I mean, they just went to the conference finals and they're like, hey, we gotta blow up this team. If we don't blow this team up, we'll never get back here. It's like every year, we talked about this with the Pacers. I'm not happy for Timothy Chalamet, Ben Stiller, Spike Lee, Pete Triggs.

Miles Teller. John Bellingham, all the Knicks fans about how exciting of a run you guys had. And then, you know, we're thinking we're doing it again next year. It's hard to just rebuild, I think. It's easier to do it again next year when you do it with the Pacers, and you just keep everybody. Continuity.

And you trust it. Yeah, let's work together and do that. Here's the fear. It's like, we've seen it. Like, Steve Kerr was an upgrade from Mark Jackson and what they needed Phil Jackson was an upgrade from Doug Collins in that situation was what they needed. So we've seen it happen But like if you don't have that guy in your back pocket, that's a pretty rash decision to make I assume that those other teams Had that in play and there was like so I'm just gonna let go of the wheel and see and see how it ends up Before I judge I trust Jalen Bronson on the court

If he's playing I think you're in it. I think that's how Nick's fans should feel this SGA guy So real I'm watching him. He's six foot six AJ young Every angle off the back. It's Unbelievable. I have no idea how you stop it and then I appreciate people Now granted I did not watch enough of the Oklahoma City Thunder this year. Sure. Okay hand up on me The narrative was this guy just gets a foul line, so I thought we were gonna watch James Harden at Houston Basketball, you know, I thought it was just gonna be like that type of stuff. It's not no it's a completely He is a plate. This dude is a beast. He's they call him a foul artist

It's like he will expose you if you are close enough for him to steal one off of you He will certainly do that, but he's creating his own shot. He's shaking. He's taking it to her I mean he is it's not like a floppy thing It's like he would certainly play the game and get a foul on you I understand that. And some people think that's a little shady, especially whenever you somehow have more foul shots than our team every single time. How does that work out that way?

But it's like, he's a talent. This dude's unbelievable. Yeah. You go down a list of great scorers. They all got to the foul line. That's a part of it. Putting the defenders in bad situations. When you have elite scorers like that, there's always going to be the haters.

Just like when it's like great quarterbacks, when it's Brady or Manning or whoever pocket quarterback. Man, when they get hit, they get all the flags, they get all this. Yeah, they're great and when they don't, they're gonna tear you apart. So that's what SGA does and what he's been able to do on the biggest stages, winning the MVP, getting to a level he's never been to and his team has never been to. And every time these lights are bright, he shows up, that's impressive. I'm sure his line is what what tonight to score probably 30. It's always 30 at least yeah, that's a car lie I said that's crazy 30 34 and a half. Yeah, that's nuts

Yeah, Rick Carlisle said you can put 34 on the score sheet for SGA already Yeah, he has I think they did it on get up he has 83 games now with 25 plus points this season crazy They need even money to score 35 plus They did it on get up. He has 83 games now with 25 plus points this season crazy He's leaving money to score 35 plus Fine I watch college groups like He wasn't that guy at Kentucky. I don't know when this happened like he was good He was fine, but he wasn't that guy it'd be cool to be six foot six And then just have it snap that you're supposed to just take over games work ethic Yeah. Yeah, it has to. Brunson too, Brunson.

I mean, he was a dog at Villanova, obviously, but you just get in, you put in the work and you become like a great. You only do that by putting that work in and he's obviously done that. And his mentor was Chris Paul. When Chris Paul came over, OKC was supposed to, I think their over-under for wins was like 20, and they ended up winning 45 games going to the playoffs being the fourth seed when Chris Paul was at the one, and he's kind of the guy that took as she a Chris Paul good on our program. Yeah, great on your program live in the rain from Carolina. I loved it

He talked shit to that's a back. He was gonna play Shregs next year. Yeah, what are you hearing? Sounded like on your show that he wants to be a clipper. It sounded like it I don't know that's how he wants to end it, but I don't know how that all works out. I can't That's how why what are you? What are you talking about? It's Chris ball. They got James Harden and stuff. Chris ball. He's come to Boston. You want him to be as far away from his family as possible. He needs to bring his family there too. Oh, I don't know. What's the best school in the country? Harvard. You want to be close to that? Oh, Harvard. Oh, you're big Harvard. You're big Harvard guy. I said Harvard

because it's more mainstream. I'm an MIT guy. Technology guy. So I don't know what you guys are talking about. Cambridge, I don't know, one of the most up and coming areas, not up and coming one of the most expensive areas in the world to live in. That's why that's why if it's not as uppity as you think, but that's why if, not as uppity as you think, but that's why if Chris Paul were to come over, I think it should be a match made in heaven.

Oh, that's awesome, we got you. All right, hey, Shrinks, I appreciate the hell out of you, man. Guys, congrats on all the cool stuff with the Concava stuff too. I was following all of it. Aw, man. Shrinks, Shrinks, Shrinks.

You were so close, bro. Harry K. Apa. Almost a perfect time. I watched, I was supportive. You gotta give me something. Yeah. Come on. I watched, I was supportive. You've got to give me something. Carry North Carolina. My passport hasn't been there, but I will be if you ever invite me. I will get in goal.

Oh yeah. Count it. Tonkaifa has, Stoner stood on his head. He was the best. The wide goal of the whole tournament was the last game. Stoner was unbelievable. I guess Stoner also plays Stoner is our goalie from last year he carried out. He stopped one with his face

this year actually. Just eight one with his face. I guess he plays striker too on some club teams. What the hell? Why wasn't Stoner in then? Yeah so I guess his foot, his feet are good as well. And then Ph E was obviously joined our team, former MASL goalie of the year.

Sure. Yeah, do they allow five hole goals in MASL? Did you see how the tournament ended last night, Shregs? No, I didn't. I did not see this. This is the highlight? This is for a million bucks right here. Bang, banded around a guy.

Goal awesome. Oh, what a shot. Yeah, I like the smoke that they had. Yeah, that's cool And the station if old buddy used his hand to stop that would it keep continue the game or does it go count? How's it? In the box, yeah in the box in the box. He would have been good. Did he have a penny on? No, no the guy running on the field has a penny. Yeah, the guy who was designated the goalie had a penny on right there He was holding him blue He actually was the one to turn the ball over before this on the other side

They tried to sub him out to sub new goalie in so that guy right next to him is subbing in for the other goalie Terrible substitution by Pumas Dalla, but this was a bobble. This was a botch by their bench and This was substitution air is how they lost a million bucks They could have taken a shot earlier to there. There might have been a time to maybe yeah, maybe like have one Maybe a good opportunity. Maybe have one here. Let's have one But there's a couple of those where they could have yeah, they could have had one They could have maybe really went out there and had one. I mean that's in this tournament. You have to have one Yeah, especially if the ball comes over and it's a perfect situation to to have one, you know, you have that ball

You know tied around, you know, you have that ball, you know tied around You know your left boot maybe a good opportunity to have one especially 77 for Pumas big boots. Yeah, Tony. Yeah fat Tony That is his name. That's what he's called. He's a legend. He had he had like a leavened It was awesome I can't believe he didn't let it rip, dude I can't believe he did not win the golden boot of the tournament. I actually need to talk with someone from TST and also Puma State Alabama. Their skipper, their gaffer, coach of the tournament and he is the biggest fucking gaffer of the whole tournament and they lose.

So let's go. It was a substitution there, Gumpy. We all watch, while we're watching it live, I see Scranton, like, other goalie running off field. Illegal substitution as well. Sure. Just so we know, the other goalie was not fully off the field in the substitutionary as the new goalie was being subbed on.

So I mean, it was, it's chaos. The longer you play in this tournament, you realize that the ref in the middle actually does nothing at all as well. I learned that when I asked what does that guy do when Nani threw a punch at Brexey they said oh he's just there to monitor subs not actually help or you know. You're talking about on the sideline. Yeah in the middle there he just stands there. He's great. They also rule if it's inter-bounds or out of bounds on the near sideline. I think I've seen a couple of those calls made. Gumpi hates the refs at the TST. I love that. And I don't know. What a great tradition. Why'd they

throw that thing? I don't know. So everyone can get a piece of the trophy. Oh. Like everybody at the tournament, all the kids. All the kids. The pinata? Bunch of players on the team, they were all picking it up and like celebrating with their piece. Okay. Like cutting the nail. I don't know. I don't know. What are you supposed to do with that thing in one piece I would have had that thing on a flight home with me yeah we're gonna hang that thing in a Thunderdome right from the middle I can't wait to see the team next year Grela out bring in come on let's bring in big Tony. Uh, who, who else do we like?

Do the gym of the years. I would never look, I'm not built for it. I got, there's one man that we need. You see down there at the bottom. Shregs. What does it say? General manager of the tournament. Oh yeah. Mike. Oh, Mike's boss. How about that? Concave has two representatives shout out to Big Ruggles. Congratulations, Drew. That's my boy, Ruggs.

Couple big time goals. Also, I think he had two or three yellow cards. I think he had three. They only documented two. So he could have got another one. Cause if you get three yellow cards, you gotta set out the next game. So he definitely had three yellow cards,

but they only kept track of two. So he got a bonus yellow. And he was certainly trying to exercise that right. Sure. He is a, he has the gift of the gap. And he said, he gets people that right. He is the gift of the gap. And he gets people very upset, very, very. He was actually walking one guy right off the field

to fight him. And then as that guy was walking off the field, boom, we slide in right behind the guy, score a goal. I mean, it was like his mental game in mental gymnastics, he's a chess player out there. Yeah. His dreads, does not like when his dreads are pulled They got a red card. I was super happy for him because he played on nani's team last year and they never invited him back

So when we knocked them out, he was what? Yeah, he was he didn't have a team. Yeah, we we got lucky that that's uh, porch Who's an absolute dog? There's there's me celebrating alongside first sergeant pack harland Uh who gave the boys a motivational speech before the game? It was great to see him porch was unbelievable. Yes. He's filthy I don't know how he didn't make the team as well porch ran a lot around people. He was this was a great tournament It was a great time. We're lucky to be there I can't stress enough how much better this style of soccer is than normal soccer. It's about 10,000 times better. Always a walk off. Always a walk off.

Game has to end with somebody scoring a goal. No ties. Black boots. Yeah, black boots came back this year and there's a Grela assist by the way. Nice pass bro. Who was that against? Was that the first game or the second game

where you guys won seven nothing? No, this is soccer roof. Yeah, that was round of 32. Didn't Grela assist the Breck Shegel too? Yes. Oh yeah, that real good assist. It, this is soccer roof. Yeah, it was round of 32. Didn't Grelia assist the Brexite goal too? Yes. Oh yeah, real good assist. It went off the goalie. Let's not act like Grelia. Gotta play with the mixer, brother. Let's not act like Grelia fed him on his boots, okay? He basically shot a little rinky-dink shot and then Brexite being the superhero that he is, came in and cleaned it up. Hey, big meat, thank you for your service to Conkafe this year.

The boys are buzzing. All right, we appreciate you, you Shregs maybe next year you are a mascot or a goalie. Yeah. I'm in. What's the name of the team? Conkaifa. Oh All right, we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen Peter Schrager AJ I don't know if you saw it Phil Steele did a little ranking of the big 12. Did you see it? I actually did not see he feels through. Yeah, Phil St guys been doing college footballs you're doing it yeah exactly he doesn't know shit hey Phil oh he is one of the most respected names out there it's what he's putting lists together like this and it's crap shite you gotta call it out hey Phil don't lose the fastball bub now is not the time your dad rich Rodriguez. Oh Okay, man, then Neil Brown coming dead last to the big 12 No, I'm sure he did

Two or three Color me shocked. I was. Good question. Yeah. That was a layup yes. I don't think he ever did. Okay. My apologies. More specifically, last year he did not. Okay.

So, Rich Rod's gonna get there and we're gonna get worse. Is what Phil Steele thinks? No chance. Come on, come on. It is a little interesting though, that we went and checked the betting odds of the Big 12. Turns out West Virginia's ranked 12th. In those out of 16 teams, you think Big 12,

there's only 12 teams? No, there's 16 of them and we're ranked 16th in Phil Steele's eye. Don't love that, but I want the Mountaineer boys to understand, Phil Steele thinks you're shit. Expectations are nothing. We know the work you're putting in though. Good luck out there.

How about Jaheem White just shouting out his teammates for all their hard work? Offensive line. Jaheem White's a beast by the way running back. Oh, we're gonna run the ball. Yeah, Jaheem White's gonna matter. Yeah 16th in the fucking Big 12. What's Phil still doing? He's hanging out with that Chef Chang. Don't put fucking Phil still in the Chef same conversation. Yeah, they're hanging out. Nah. They're brainstorming together.

They're thinking of the same dumb list together. Phil Steele and Chef Chang out there just tag teaming to make people miserable with their wrong ideas and opinions. I do hate that he couldn't just land on one top team. He got three ones up there. Didn't love that. What did he do? Make a decision.

Stick by. I didn't know that. See, Phil Steele has lost his fastball to three fourth places Yeah, okay, he doesn't know that doesn't work and also do we know Phil still actually did this or we just got just tweet this I assume he'll be doing it for great question. I think comes out soon. So whatever the case West Virginia You didn't know that somebody's saying you guys are dead last get to work boys get to work. What years she might I think he's this last year. Okay, because because he's transferring or because he's a senior I think he's a senior junior senior so you got a hold on to him what yeah well hold

on for dear life because I thought your best your best player went to Ohio State right that was another CJ portal portals closed right yes but also that was CJ Donaldson yeah CJ Donaldson very good player very very good player very good running back obviously went to Ohio State he's very good player I will say Jaheem White though good player your player dog dog they split backfield you know those are two ponies back here running Jaheem White good player got some big boys up front I think Jaheem White if he was to hit the transfer portal, I think he would have got a big. Yeah, sure I think he would have got a big but he didn't he said I want to do to work that hard edge

I want that hard edge Yeah, I do appreciate those that stuck around now I think there was a large group of people that we and by William talking about the West Virginia football team go forward Want it out of there always like hey Pretty evident you're not supposed to be here. Hey, do you think? You're a little slow Don't you kind of see how everything here is fast

Everything we're doing speed based You're slow Everything we're doing here toughness You're soft Everything we're doing here, toughness, you're soft. Everything we're doing here, football,

you're a content creator. So there's a lot of that going on. Good. There's a lot of that going on from my understanding. I don't know if there was a lot of content creators, but everything else I said, I think was happening behind the scenes, trying to get the culture in there.

You know, we got to get our guys in there, but those who stay will be great. They're not going to finish 16th. No, and if you finish 11th, that's a massive success. We're not going to finish fucking 11th. I'm just saying. Okay, I don't know what we're talking about. What's over under, over under for them?

Two and a half? Five and a half? How about that? I bet it was six and a half. Texas Outfills Steel Big 12 Conference. Really hard to read, but you see 16 there, and then what? West Virginia. Five and a half is the- see 16 there and then what West Virginia

Five and a half is the in 23 Neil Bryan dot, West Virginia were motivated by being picked last in a big 12 meeting The Mountaineers were a powerful run game and strong defense to a 9-4 record including 30-10 bowl blowout last year. They rated a Shell of what's that say minus three to have a shell of what's that say? Minus three and a half. And did not buy? Minus three and a half and did not get to did get to six and five before a blowout lost the Texas deck and Browns let go. Richrod returns and does have 14 returning starters. When Richrod was at Jack State I picked them last in a conference. Okay. Oh hey Mike. And they went nine and four so I am wary of picking them here But it seems like a third of the team was not even in yet by the summer So that's a lot of move Phil still hates Rich Rodriguez certainly. Yeah, okay. He doesn't believe in the hard edge fair Hey Phil still okay We appreciate your transparency there, but you saw you gave it away. We just read it go ahead You see his running back rankings down there bottom, right?

Number one running back in the big 12. Jaheem white. Okay, did rich Rodriguez's offense is a running offense Well, he did it again number one in Baylor number one in Kansas State number one, Iowa State Yeah, but what he also has is West Virginia having the 15th best of line. So if we have a great running back, but we Yeah, see him up front. What do you remember rich rods offensive lines. We're moving brother People in there though, we're moving though not it didn't take time in Jacksonville State It's a couple years. I mean they went nine and four is pretty good last year. I like honestly who? West Virginia they were nine or four My bad. Okay, I'll say Neil Brown gets fired after nine and four

I don't think so last year was six and five and then Blown out at the end there the Penn State lost just really set the tone frow everybody was gonna judge West Virginia That was a weather's fault. They were almost made the national championship though We're on pace before the game season started Mm-hmm Hey was in the barn when we were there and that water bottle fell down and he almost had a heart attack That was kind of me. That was all me. Yeah, but think about when we were there for that the day before Penn State Think about the energy that was on that campus incredible so much awesome. It's a students fault

I have no idea how many people were there. I don't even want to put a number on it But that place was fucking packed out ready for football Ready for the football season. And then Penn State, there's a weather delay and that kind of offset everything because we were prepared for one particular game. New game came. It was a lot longer. How we supposed to deal with this, even though we got a nicer locker room and nicer everything, we didn't deal with that well. And then it just kind of carried in the rest of the year. They were making TikToks, playing video games.

Today's got me so fucking juice for football. So juice. A lot of football in there. Drake, Drake May said he's bummed football's ending. Connor, I know you saw the clip. Drake May was asked about mandatory mini camp coming to a close and the off-season workout schedule ending. Is this what he had to say?

Good. I think I'm starting to really kind of find a stride. I'm kind of bummed out. We're about to leave. But no, it's funny. Anytime we're going against great defense, they got good players, two great corners. I tell Gonz every day, I'm gonna test them.

I'm not gonna not throw at them or CD. I think the best corners and one of the best duos in the league. What an opportunity for us to go out there every day and throw against those guys. He was just finding the groove and now it's over. Is he gonna be able to find it again when the season starts or is it too late? He was not just finding the groove and now it's over. He now has McDaniel's new offense locked in. He also was one of those guys that has to completely restart this year, but

he's not scared. Stefan Diggs comes in, he's giving kids pop rocks and enjoying his time, kind of showing everybody. I don't think they were kids. They were calling him daddy. And his locker is- Valid. Right next to Drake May, which is really cool Got that, you know established number one Roger Seaver got that old line, you know I don't want to put the carpet for the horse here

But we got a white boy from Eastern Washington who plays Roger Seavers names F didn't Chisholm Holy see this guy is guys the Chisholm holy this guy is guys the one's got the pizzazz He's got the he's got the chizz ass Chiz allegedly has led basically all receivers in catches over this time So yeah, look at Drake man one fucking 11 to 14 two days ago 16 18 yesterday They probably fucking 20 so if I'm you guys all i'm thinking is god i hope the patrons aren't that surprise team that comes all the way back this year because if it is i'm probably fired by week three because i'm gonna be all the way i'm gonna be the worst

to be around if you thought i was bad in the suite when the celtics were playing the paces last year just wait to see what happens if the Patriots start off 6-0. Could you imagine you as a Patriots fan having that high of the high, greatest dynasty of all time, and then down we're rebuilding, and then you build it back faster than like the Colts. Oh yeah. Or like any of the other, you would be so arrogant.

It would be. We did what you guys have had tried to do for the last 30 years. We were able to do it two years. Took us two years. What's so hard? Oh, we had to bring back with Mike Vrabel. Are you kidding me? You guys bring back Jeff Saturday.

That almost worked. We bring back Mike Vrabel. Holy fuck, we're already going back to the AMC. This hasn't happened yet. You're running your mouth a little bit. It hasn't happened yet, but I think everybody in here knows there's a real chance it happens.

I'm not there yet just because new offense, everything. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. You're there. No, I'm, I there. No I'm I'm not. Hey we're all kind of there which is the fear. Like because we all believe in Braves I think right? Yep. We all believe in Braves. For sure. 100%. It's just like yeah I assume the Patriots are gonna win games again and we just have to be prepared for that as a society. That the Masseles are gonna be just that again. They're going to have a reason to be loud. And the silver lining of last year was Drake-May, and now it feels as though the only question of this year is Drake-May.

So if we can just put ourselves back when we saw that big son of a bitch throw that touchdown pass to Keishon Booty down the sideline against the Texans. I think we can all be there like, oh yeah, they might win 12 games. Anything Richardson had a 72 yard ball to Pittman I believe or Alex Pierce. But that's the thing. We should point ourselves out. How about the fourth quarter drive against the Patriots? Two minute drill. How about Tittany Times'

playoff victory where he went for 350 and 100 rushing. Who was that against the Vikings? Yeah. Oh I'm there right now now brother in Minnesota. I do remember that How about Jordan love for We'll see I mean we got fucking Bo Melton the CB one right now So that's a kind of that's a little more pressing concern than Jordan loves gonna be just fine We got a fucking six round receiver, you know trying to lock down Justin Jefferson. That's a bit of an area concern I thought you had belief in the entire place. I do I mean fucking give fucking give him hell half-ly, he'll get the boys in line, but. Oh yeah. But, I mean, what do we do? This ain't fucking Pop Warner. This ain't high school football.

It's a bad ball. It's a bad ball. It's one rep. Go to the other rep. Go to Rob Domovski. I think he's covering him. Could he play corner with number 80 on? Would they let him? Yeah. Troy Brown did it. Oh yeah, you can do whatever you want now, there's no real there's no rules on numbers anymore from this This is a good one. Ah break. Oh didn't come directly to the ball, but he was sick Invading a defender. You can't say there's guy right there makes a mess and takes back to have a bunch of fun

Did you guys see that edit of Aaron Rodgers? Yeah We see the edit of Aaron Rodgers Steelers put up you're talking about the video. We've run here a couple times Nobody spins the ball at number eight it's gone Tell you what when those boys over there at the Graphics department over there the Steelers get three or four months and those guys coming they will put together some facts Come up. How about the darts on the dartboard? Wait till the ball turns into signed Yeah, I had a moment too when I said it oh my god damn that ball says what I just said right there That was cool. I thought it was greed. I was like, are they saying he's a great bastard

I thought it was greed. I was like, are they saying he's a great bastard? Oh He's gonna be doing a lot at him and you guys got a four-time MVP quarterback I didn't think so we do Patriots do Tony. Oh, just check back in and Yeah, Danny dimes we don't know what's in store for Danny greatness I think he's gonna I think. He's going to be comeback player of the year this year, and he might win it. No, remember that's not the thing. Oh yeah, they changed the rules. But you know, the Finns even at doing training camp this year. You guys playing football or all I've heard is just people potentially leaving.

We are. John New Smith isn't there. I actually like Mike Bada, I think Schrags might have mentioned it earlier, or yeah, I think Schrags mentioned it. I liked his answer when he was asked by John new and Jaylen Ramsey but yeah, they'll compete and Won't win a playoff game and you know to be in extended our I think believe 26 year streak now So you're kind of bummed out about that. But um, what's the playoff win? Yeah, we can't

About teams though Yeah about the Dolphins teams though. Cause he's an eagle man. He doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, about the dolphins. What? Well he does. He only gives a fuck.

I had a dolphin's lid on yesterday. It was cool. Yeah, which was interesting. I care. For a Panthers game. Gumpy cares about the dolphins. Gumpy, how do you feel? Gumpy's super positive towards them always.

Yeah, you wanna know why he cares so much about Conkaifa, cause of this fucking football team. You know, that's the closest I was gonna get to winning something, that's why I was losing my mind. Yeah, I'm happy Gump showed up. Yeah, Gumpy was bummed out about the Conkaifa loss's why I was losing my mind. Yeah. I'm happy Gump showed up. Yeah. Gump was bummed out about the Concafe loss. And I appreciate that type of passion and emotion.

He wasn't the only one. Faso, bummed out. Talked to Jeff Cameron, bummed out. Meat sent me a message, bummed out. Gordo Gerson has a lot of boozing. We don't know. Gordo is an impressive. Gordo had a very good tournament.

He was a workhorse. Yeah, he's a wagon. Yeah Gordo is a wagon Ledesma sent me a message. Oh He's so good. Yeah, so it's good great addition. He was so he said I'm so sorry, but I did not play more for you What's that? Did you say damn right son get back in the gym? No, I had one leg dude. I said Ledezma, you. He scored several goals. He was so good. Yeah.

His boy too, was one of the coolest kids I've been around. He's got a 12 year old I think that was hanging around team. Dan, Ben, oh. Benjamin? Benny? Oh, I don't get the name wrong, I apologize. He was hanging out with us the entire time, he was cool. Ledezma should be in the MLS.

What, like. I guess he played one year with Cincinnati and now he just runs a bunch of academies. Porch, Meat, all those guys. We have so many good soccer players. Yeah, Black Boots was beside himself. Mario, yeah, playing upside down. Waterbug. Where are they about to play now?

Like Porch, where is he? It's crazy that fucking guy isn't in the MLS. With how fast and quick he is, it's fucking crazy. How about just watching that tournament? How many good players there are? It's like, so none of these guys are. Make you think how we lose. Well, we don't. How good are the MLS? Yeah, we don't. Yeah, exactly. Why didn't play with a scratch golf? I watch a lot of MLS. I'm telling you, there's room for Chad porch on that field.

Okay. I mean, what about Ledesma? Yeah, legit. I don't know why the desert only played one year. I think porch basically, I'm telling you there's room for Chad Porch on that field. Okay. And what about Ledesma? Yeah, legit. I don't know why Ledesma only played one year. I think Porch basically, he had a trial right before COVID and he got hurt and then he never got a chance to go back after COVID with MLS. So good. I mean, there's like so much talent. Our team has so much talent.

Every team that makes it has so much talent. And you watch me like, there has to be a reason like what happened here and We're lucky for it though. I'm fucking thankful because if there any MLS, they wouldn't be allowed to play It's like a pro contract at the highest level. You're not allowed to be there, right? That's why like Arena League guys are allowed to be in there because it's not considered that's your one That was his free one rookie of the year in the Arena League. It was first year him and Pacheco were on Baltimore Pacheco water bug. Yeah water bugs a fucking junkyard dog. Did Grelia reach out and say sorry or Is he bummed at all or my cash hasn't checked is

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I don't know It's a joke, damn it You know, but no brother was bummed out there all everybody was bummed out Yeah gums did say that Grell had jumped in the car with his kids right after the game and drove back to New Jersey so I think he's had a I mean, I can't imagine that fucking he was they all want to win grow. It didn't give a fuck I could see it in his eyes What I could see you weren't there but two days

We were there on Thursday before the most important time and I could tell just from the look on now You were taking shot at different people. You remember the Grell is the third person on your list. You've taken shots No, I said sorry to break earlier and then it's just been grow No, I did not look I think the I can look himself in the mirror and say how the fuck am I leaving this boy Scoreless, okay. I assume the Indianapolis outlaw knows he underperformed and that's why the outlaw is probably working right now Grella doesn't give a fuck man He was in but grow was in better shape than he was last year for sure I mean that last 20 pounds that didn't show me anything if anything we needed him a little more beefy. Let's go to Away from soccer. Let's get back to football Ashley Washburn He's reporting from Brian good to kids. It's just something we're gonna take a look at see if it's possibility

He's talking about Bow Mountain. So don't lose your mind. They're just seeing there's no stone left unturned. I get it I mean, it's just one of those things where you kind of have a knee-jerk reaction So what the fuck is that guy doing out there playing defense, you know that for the Green Bay Pack? Exactly, you know, I mean once the playoffs last year thinking may hey mate, this might be the year they take another have one Yeah, maybe have one now. It's the time to maybe have one maybe think about having one But instead we got Bo Melton out there playing defense. I'm not gonna overreact yet, but I'll tell you what if they They go into the season and if I see this again in two weeks, I'm gonna be beside myself Luckily for you not till training camps. You've got a couple weeks. You could just read it won't happen in a few weeks

No, yeah, you're right. Maybe I don't see we'll show you the video the next couple weeks. Yeah. Yep Well, let you know this was happening in june Training camps right around the corner. Well, I get it too because bold melton had about 40 drops last year on offense So maybe we should move him to defense and see what he could do over there. Well, he did have a drop on I know that's okay. You know, I mean, you know a pick isn't you know an expectation Exactly after after these mini camps man-to-man camps. I Feel like you've told the story before everyone is just smoking tires out of here for six weeks. Oh, yeah Yeah, like I think except right man you guys shorten the weekend, right?

I think so cuz I thought we started kind of early. But coaches will do that if there's high attendance for the voluntary ones. Like we were, for instance, at the Colts, I think we were like 99 percent attendance for the volunteer. There's one player that was not there. Pretty important piece was paid a lot of money. He showed up at mandatory mini camp. He was injured.

OK, so basically we had already done everything throughout the entire voluntary so Chuck cut off a day in the end because the only reason why mandatory really mattered was because this one player who's gonna be a starter who has paid a lot of money who showed up at the weight of a different position Not fat more muscle here and was injured Was not able bingo was not able to do the mandatory mini camp So it's like we already got all our work in so I saw some people talk about the Patriots shortening your Mandatory mini camp and be like I saw some people talking shit on it. It's like no that means they've already got all the work

Yeah, that's a good thing. That's not a bad That means that's like a faster practice is a good thing a faster practice means they've got through everything right as opposed to having restart It's like the longer practices are bad. The longer camps, not saying that a full mandatory mini camp is bad and there's some people that probably have 100% attendance that would do a full camp, but I think more often than not a lot of the shit's already done. The mandatory is just like if the guys aren't there, they're like forced to kind of be there, but if everybody's already there, cutting short is like not a problem at all It's awesome. So you'd almost want your team. Yeah to be at a point where they cut it short like we know our shit

Let's go ahead and get one more extra day a break here before training camp because it's gonna be a long haul for us And as soon as everybody's getting out of that parking lot, I mean there is It's an important stretch. Yeah coaches to yep. I always get that speech, you know, don't don't be that guy You know between this stretcher you got four or five six weeks off You don't want to be in the news for anything. Obviously you want to show back up to training camp in shape You don't want to show up to training camp and get a soft to it tissue injury You know one two days in the camp and it just throws your whole season off So this is a critical point in time too. Yeah

Yeah, don't get arrested. Yeah that too. I did that. There will be plenty. Yeah that's why a lot of people want to change the way the NFL's calendar is. It's like hey don't we think we shouldn't have six weeks before the most important... a lot of people want to move it to later and lead right into training camp have you seen that Yeah, I mean, we're adults. All right. Come on now like we're adults We got to be able to treat them like an adult. You're hearing guys that want to have summer. Yes Yeah coaches need you need that time. You don't you don't need to Yeah, I don't need to extend the season by six weeks by doing that

Yeah, that's exactly that was being pitched remember because after during covid that's how it kind of went three weeks or four weeks Into the season and everybody's bodies said they felt better and all that shit yeah once you show up be a pro be a pro that's all it is you got you you should like technically you should be able to handle a little bit of time off where you should work out on your own and then not you know kill somebody Stefan Diggs met with reporters for the first time since the boat video says, Phil A. Perry, what was in the bag? Obviously it's a conversation that's happening internally

says, I can't have too much conversation about it. Boom. He gets it. There's a conversation happening inside of me right now. Can't talk to you too much about it. He was just back in Maryland with his girlfriend. He was also doing some sort of camp, I believe. Yeah, bingo. Yeah, no, he's just back in Maryland with his girlfriend. He was also doing some sort of camp. I believe Yeah, bingo. Yeah, Maryland. He was doing a football camp. Okay, so that's where he was back in Maryland

I did not know that and then he runs on a field and he's just so fast He's unbelievable wait till you see Afton Chisholm though. It's a fucking guy. I'm not even kidding You're saying she's as is the one I'm saying there's a real shot here. We got an Edelman a Cooper cop Diamond in the rough if there seems to be a couple similarities between those comparisons Yeah, well, he also he also has a lot of Wes Walker in him. Oh, really? Yeah, there's some of that I would have never guessed. Yeah. Yeah, but like golden tate like a slot like golden tate maybe here he is oh oh cheese coach had great coverage on him that coach in his hip pocket what school

what school you go to eastern washington ee woo okay oh who that's what they do and then chiz as comes in and breaks them up he does like the jabba walkies. Yeah, bingo thing. Yeah Hi Chazazz good luck out there. He's a rookie yeah, I'm driving for age So we're gonna have to put on our boots if you will It may be maybe think about having one mm-hmm And then if you if you don't at this exact time maybe in the future you yeah You can maybe have one a little later some point, but at some point you're going to want to have one

How did 77 not have one? I I still don't know Jose Antonio Medina Alvarez Whatever fuck his name is something in that ballpark. He needed to have one. He needed to have a few more something in that ballpark one he needed to have a few more. Something in that ballpark. Big boots. They're calling him Fat Tony early which they do call him I believe. I don't know if he accepts that name but I know they were calling him that around the tournament. He's so good. You look at him he's not supposed to be that good. No. He's kind of short, definitely round, soccer, want to be able to run a lot. He is very flexible. He is, he's special.

That whole team was filled. I guess they play in tournaments around the world. They go play in tournaments and win them. They weren't able to beat Bumpy Pitch. I mean, nobody will. Where are they from? They won the women's and the men's. The Bumpy Pitch did?

No, USA. The US women's national team won. Carly Lloyd. Nice. Hey, Carly Lloyd. I don't know, I was watching the highlights. I was following. The US women's national team won. Carly Lloyd. Nice. Hey, Carly Lloyd. I was watching the highlights. I was following. She was in the same hotel we were in.

Every time I walked by her, I said, Legend, very nice to meet you. She was with her family each time. Legend, very good to see you. Legend, very good to see you. Because what she did with the US women's national team, like, real deal. Oh yeah. I forget how many years she was on the women's national team. She played forever, basically. And she still got it. I think she had like four goals in the TST

I think she had one of the championship. She did yeah Oh, so strike hope solos team solo FC. She made the all TST team hopes Oh, they're dead. I guess she caused a penalty kick and then saved the penalty kick. Yeah, that's classical solo foot exactly That's her it was great. It was really was long man Very long, but it has to be I think for survival. Oh, yeah, because at the end there your legs Yeah, they do it as quick as possible exactly like I think those Elimination rounds have to be that way or nobody will make it to the final or the games would just suck and be not entertaining at All right. Yeah, or whatever teams in the best shape will win.

Which still, yeah kind of holds true. Which is kind of the NBA and I don't think that gets talked about enough. Teams that are in the best shape in the NBA win. I don't think that is chatted about nearly enough whenever it comes to roster construction or team building. The reason why the Pacers have been so damn good obviously they got a lot of talent they're in the best shape. Oklahoma City you watch, same exact thing. SGA looks like it's game 41 right now. They're like 100 games into the season. This has been a long ass season for these guys.

It's a lot of running too. And I'm not saying those haven't done it in the past, but it's like watching the New York Knicks team slowly die while they're playing against the Pacers, which is clearly what happened. Even in the games, fourth quarters, oh, the Pacers come back in the fourth quarter, the Pacers come back in the fourth quarter, it's because of how good of shape they're in. It's because like what they, that's like a part of the strategy. Like let's keep it close until the fourth and then we should be able to wear on them.

It's like the OKC team has the same, they have the same mindset. So maybe when you're thinking about your NBA team, you should say, are they in good shape or not? And maybe that's why nico down there And dallas was like enough is enough. So I read it saying that redick saying they need to be in championship shape Luca I saw luca. Oh Squat, oh, yeah squatting a thousand pounds. I love the video just post a video We got some video of aaron rogers taking some drop backs as a Pittsburgh Steeler second Jersey Jersey, I think it's a shirsy. I

Think he's wearing a shirsy nimble. Look how new he has nimble is the right word. They got yellow sleeves He's wearing a shirt underneath the jersey classic Aaron Rodgers, man. He looks good So see the handoff it's like he's been there all voluntary. Geez back up running backs. Will Howard. Hey get back, get back, get back, go to the handoff there where he does the. Carry out the fake still. Watch out.

Watch out. Pause, pause, pause. No. Hey get back, get back, get back. Geez Louise. What are the other quarterbacks? Other quarterbacks obviously aren't carrying out all the way out. Hey get back get back get back. She's Louise What are the other quarterback care other quarterbacks? Obviously aren't carrying out all the way out making my they think they're comfortable And those aren't the quarterback quarterbacks are studying Aaron's now that's running backs. Yeah, get the fuck out of the way Geez Louise where's going first obviously? Oh is oh my gosh? What's the number roll an ankle there? We got another championship this weekend. Hey, good luck to the Steelers

Looks like he's a okay by the way Aaron looks like you the voluntary OTAs. Maybe weren't important What were you saying? The final bosses league? What's going on? Hmm. Oh you guys weren't aware. No Okay, there we go. You have a championship DC defenders. I didn't even think about it. Come on! No rock there. That's on me. Sorry, Dwayne.

UFL has their championship? You knew that. Yes I did. Huge man. You can watch it this weekend on... Fox. Fox. On...

Fox. On Saturday. Saturday. Watch this going. What day are you doing? Maybe Sunday. Sunday. I'm going to make it a whole weekend. D. Butch. Will you cover it for us? Thank you cool

Boots on the ground Darius J Butler will be down the UFO championship where the defenders will take on the Michigan Panthers Panthers obviously very good because they had a kicker last year that was making 60 plus yarders this year They said we're not just a kicker. No. No, we're a team They have Pooka's brother and don't even get into the beer snakes with the D3 defenders. They play good football. They will be playing on... I believe it's Saturday.

On? On Fox, it probably... Might be Sunday. It might be like 10 a.m., to be honest. They might slide that thing in early so people can go about their day, watch the U.S. Open. Darius can't make it at 10 a.m If it's at 10 a.m.. He will not go any other time. He is good to go. I go to Canada what?

Canadian Montreal, Grand Prix Qualities Saturday no I don't think they do qualities in f1 It's just make sure you get the car on take selfies with it. Is that what the f1 do? Take selfies with all the cars? Yep you qualified you can take a photo with the car you can certainly do that. Tone has been looking for a long time on the date of this fucking date. It's uh 8 p.m uh on on abc. Oh ABC! On June 14th. ABC 8 p.m. June 14th. Which is Saturday night. Kirk and Fowler. Which is also Flag Day. And you can find that happy flag day to everybody. Sure. Thank you. You too. Being a sports fan isn't easy. Especially if you're a UFL fan. Finding these games, geez. Finding the championship even took a little bit of some research. But it'll be on ABC You know where you can find ABC YouTube TV

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Or you can go to the live feature, boom, and it's all in there. YouTube TV makes watching TV convenient, and it makes being a sports fan easy Shout to YouTube TV And shout to you guys for watching this program. Shamar Stewart fired back today. I'm 100% right should be a no-brainer In Trace case should be a no-brainer, too I'm not asking for nothing. Y'all have never done before but y'all bangles Just want to win arguments more winning games in my opinion what oh that's good start love it good start

love it that's from Ari Mirov at my sports update he is an actual aggregator of actual NFL news so I don't think he got hacked here do we know anything more about him saying this anywhere yes it's a lot see me the Bengals organization or like the Bangles fan base? I think the Bangles organization. Yeah for sure. Paul Danaer Jr. is reporting this. Shamar Stewart conversation at his locker is obviously not great. Clear the frustration is bubbling up from small annoyance or something more long-lasting. Most notable something very simple to fix. It's kind of disappointing of disappointing so Shamar interested to see the

Disenchantment with the organization's handling of this coming through so clearly now I can't say what I really want to say it's their contract they can do what they want with it Some very frank and direct comments from Shamar Stewart and why he continues to feel he's 100% right to sit out Clearly very upset and frustrated with bangles that he's not signed and on the field. Let's go to that Let's go to the beginning of that clip and let's see what he had to say here there's three minutes and 35 seconds long you can pause that go full screen on it here we go actually I have no idea I really don't know what have you been doing to stay

locked in and and you know there's only so much that can replicate on the field reps but what have you been doing to make sure that you're actually locked in when you're out there knowing that you can't do anything? Great question. I still go to meetings I still study my playbook you know taking on the right notes and then whenever we get some free time I go out to train at black sheep. Is it fair to say at this point that you will not step foot on the practice field and practice until you're signed? Yes. Good question. Very bad. I mean, I've been doing this for most of my whole life and then all of a sudden it's gone over something very

simple to fix. It's kind of disappointing. Have they given you any answers as to why they're choosing this year and you to set a new precedent? If I really wanted to say, I can't say what I really want to say but it's their contract. They can do what they want with it. Oh, that means something. What do you think from a player's standpoint to be on the field for training camp? It's very important. I mean, like, you got to get your body somewhat prepared to play football. Especially me coming from college to the NFL is a way physical game, even though I play in SEC, which is very physical. But nothing compares to actually playing in NFL. So I thought I'd be on the field by now. That's what I would've thought. What are your representation, family, friends? Obviously, you've got to lean on a lot of people to kind of get through a difficult

time like this. What have they been telling you to help you? Just take it day by day, pray to God. He's always gonna stand with me no matter no matter what And just know You're doing the right thing like some people say We all agree trade will be right, right?

But technically still 1% wrong For being on the contract. So and in my case, I'm 100% right. So it should be a no brainer. And in Trey's case, I think it should be a no brainer too. I mean, he let 17 and a half sacks for two years back to back. If I was the GM or I was the owner, take all my money. But I guess they don't operate like that. But... Have you talked to Trey at all?

Talked to him the last time he was here, but other than that, no. Has this experience soured your taste in the Bengals? I'm not going to say that. I mean, I'm still new here. We still have a long future ahead of us. What's your communication with Zach Taylor been like through this process? Seems very reasonable. Yeah, I like this kid a lot. We talk here and there.

Yeah, you too mentally no physically kind of sorta not really though I still work out I feel like I'm still in good shape I'm always ready to go I've been I've been staying ready to go I mean it's my job now I got no choice whether you're ready to go. I've been staying ready to go. I mean, it's my job now. I got no choice but to be ready to go. Oh yeah. Optimistic is the wrong word,

but is it realistic that you could practice tomorrow if something gets done? I mean, is it that quick? Do you think it's gonna be like a light switch? Let's see, we got what? 20 hours? Let's see what happens. Thank you.

I think you handled that very, very well. Shot the tracks on X by the way for posting it. Mike Petraglia is the one that posted there, even though there was a lot of media surrounding him at that moment. I'll tell you what, calm, composed. Yeah. Yeah, I'm working out.

I'm down to Black Sheep. I guess that is probably a gym near there. Cause if it's voiding the entire contract, if something happens, he doesn't want anything to have. Obviously, there's some sort of him saying their contract. I wonder how many times the Bengals have said you're coming to our team. This is our offer to you. And this is how it's going to go gonna go and then they ask have you ever done this before? No, this is the first time we're doing this. Well I don't think so. And then him talking on Trey's situation. I don't know, the guy got 17 and a half sacks. I guess if I was the GM and the owner I'd say have my money but I guess that's not how they do around here. Has this sourdier taste? No, I guess

we're gonna have a long relationship. I mean everything about him, I'm like, I like the way this guy operated. I mean that was a real baby face move right there. Yeah, cuz that's a really, really, really tough spot to be in. Like he said, you are taking a huge jump and you gotta just stand there and look like the asshole on practice. It's not doing what everybody else is doing. And we always say control the controllables when you come in as a young player and you have a team around you just wanna trust.

Seems like he's controlling the controllable and he answered some tough questions there to be in that spot. So I'm frustrated for the young kid as well. Hopefully they can figure it out. But this is probably bigger than just him and his agent. I'm sure the PA probably has reached out to his agent as well.

Like absolutely not, don't accept that. So hopefully they get this figured out sooner than later. He's already missed so much valuable time, especially with a guy that you know is going to have to make a huge jump production-wise on the next level if he's going to live up to his draft slot. So hopefully it works out. But watching that clip, it kind of completely changes my view of him in this situation. Not that I had a fully negative one, but just hearing him talk and answer those questions definitely has me 1000% on his side. I was a punter, seventh round draft pick, so I shouldn't have an opinion about anybody really publicly when it comes to playing the sport of football, especially if you make

it to the NFL. But in my mind, when I heard about this, I was thinking to myself, Rook ass Rook, shut up. up you know like this contract is not the one you're getting rich off of anyways like the next one is the one you want we need to be trying to get everything we can get done to get to the next contract that's where you get rich like the first one obviously great well we want to get to the next one and as a rookie you are no longer the guy like you're in a room full of the guys I mean it's a whole new thing so my natural reaction was like this dude thinks the NFL revolves around him. He has no idea how this goes. Then I

listen to him talk and I'm like hold the phone. I love this guy. I would like this guy on my team actually. Why won't the Bengals get it done? I feel like I'm very happy we listened to that and also Shamar, hey, stand on business everybody. You stand on your business. I wouldn't want to be a guinea pig for a new clause either. I don't think. Now, how many other teams do this? You know, like that's the next question. Are the Bengals the only team doing this?

He's protecting the next year, the next couple of first round picks because the Bengals slipped this into his contract. They can show next year's first round pick. Well, this is kind of what we do and they can kind of pressure their agent and whoever the next pick would be. So I do wonder if any other teams are trying to put this close in I'm assuming they're the only one I'm assuming if it's something shitty Yeah, then the Bengals are the only team doing it The the little tidbit floor you're released to that kind of completely pivoted the entire thing for me even before

hearing that just because Once you realize all the Bengals are just trying to screw over their first overall or 17th overall pick their first-rounder there's no point in agreeing with the Bengals in any situation. Is there a president of like him? Mr. President? Yeah president whatever. Is there a situation where a first-rounder has just never... Bosa right? The Bosas. I think something happened with the Boses. But I mean like never so there's was money in both assigned like bow Jackson of week one like where he know what you just never signed your first wasn't drafted to a team and the Raiders maybe And he just didn't go he was like the box or something and he told him before they drafted him like hey if you draft

Me, I'm not gonna Joey. You know, I'm like baseball. Yeah yeah Joey missed all the preseason games his contract didn't get done in both right yeah both of them but I think that's when it's money that's one thing because wasn't their whole dispute guarantees money yeah this one is a clause on future voids and they were both top three picks this is the seven hey shout out to the young agent reading through that thing and finding clause he had to send it I would assume he sent it to multiple other agencies friends Hey, is this this isn't normal right like we can't be signing this you gotta remember those lawyers, too They'll sneak a clause in there deep

30 pages 40 pages in 20 pages in you know they do that so other lawyers are forced to be hired to Read through these things. Whereas, whereas, whereas, where at we're four pages in and whereas is only said one fucking thing. But who wants to sit here and do all this? Oh, other lawyers do. So you need to hire another lawyer to deal with the other lawyer. So then lawyers always have what work billable hours and this agent in the lawyers that read through it if it's not him if the lawyers for the agent read through it whatever found it and we're like nope that's good deal good for them yeah I'm happy they did that Jake Arthur at Jake Arthur NFL is reporting that first

series of 11 on 11 Daniel Jones three of three hit Pettman for a touchdown all thing. Wow Over Justin Wally that competition was short What's all about it's Dan's house DJ yeah three for three Dan's house. DJ. Three for three. Justin Wally's a fucking player too. Yeah, he's always got good eyes on fades. That's why they had a man. He is a red zone defender.

He's in there for the fade actually. And Daniel Jones said, catch his fade. And he said, Wally, I'm doing it. Wally had no shot. Pits it, dog. Pimmins fishing with Riley Leonard already. Yeah, it feels like it's more together than it's ever been. You got some weapons, too, man.

Drafted Tyler Warren, Pittman, Downs. Pittman never speaks to the media. Dog. Wood break his back on a football field for the Indianapolis Colts. And he tried. He almost did. would break his back on a football field for the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. And he tried. Yeah, he has. He almost did.

He tried. And he would. Hey, talk about Dark Horse teams. I think that's what they call Daniel Jones is the Dark Horse. Yeah, this is his nickname. I thought it was Vanellavit. It is, but. Well, that's a whole nother nickname.

He is many. He's just going by Indiana and now just Yeah, sure In Dan in yeah in Danny in somewhere in Daniel Jones Well, then you're inside of we trust In the annual Jones Annual Jones you'd get there in the annual Jones. Hopefully starts Who else Riley Leonard? I'm okay with that. I mean is that fucking cowboy still there? Oh Sam Ellinger. You're right

I don't know. I think what about a whole who was there last year that you loved in the preseason fucking a Beason no Jason B Bean was a dog. Why are we getting rid of being? I did not fully understand why we got rid of being being was a little bit of a dog How about the YouTube TV ball right here? Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Oh, okay. Yeah, they get it Take it. I mean stats and workout videos can really paint a picture in the off season for you. I mean stats from practice Are you talking about for me or for everybody? It translates everybody, you know, like hey something happened I don't know. Oh you put out a picture of you lifting weights all as well

bingo Stefan digs put out a video of him working out with his route doctor or whatever it was And I was so impressed that he was able to go from Knee injury to yacht to that practice all within seemingly three days And I was so impressed that he was able to go from knee injury to yacht to that practice all within seemingly three days. I was like, this guy, this guy's a superhero. He's in great shape. And he shows up at OTAs, running around.

Yeah, you're right. I will change my mindset. Cam Newton, when I saw him do that one workout video, I knew everybody needed to sign him. Before the Patriots, yeah. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, maybe it didn't work out as well as it should have. It was a good start, he hurt his shoulder. Yeah he got hurt. What do you want from him? He launched a new video or a new show. Yeah he was a part of the BET Wars

last night him and Ashley Nicole Moss started a spin-off of 106 Park 106 Sports. I'm sure it'll be some blend of sports. Oh that was huge in the locker room. Oh yeah. 106 in Park, 106 Sports. Really, I'm sure it'll be some blend of sports. Oh, that was huge in the locker room. Oh yeah. 106 and Park, big celebration last night I guess. Yeah, yeah, Bow Wow performed, Lil Wayne performed some old shit, T-Pain. So yeah, it was very targeted to our generation for sure. Yeah, 106 and Park had a hell of a run.

Yeah, Freestyle Friday. So good. So good. Man. I thought about Bow Wow. Because he re-showed up at 106 and Park. I think that's where he re-entered my life from back in the day. Basketball is my favorite sport.

You know. Yeah. Like Mike. I like the way they dribble up and down the court. Yeah. Like that was Bow Wow. Right. When he was when he was a little guy.

Yeah. Just a little Bow Wow. And he popped back in life at 106 and park It was like holy shit. He's an adult now and he was awesome also in the fast and furious franchise He popped back up Well, yeah, it was 106 and park or trl when you got home from school whatever videos was was rocking it. That was great times Oh, yeah owed to be young again. Oh, yeah Probably saw it home improvement came on what was right what was right

before 106 and Park was it the basement with big Tiga hell of a ride it was these young bucks have no idea those you have no clue what it was like back then it's a shame you know what your world now better than ever that's what we'll say they got streamers now yeah watching Minecraft yeah that's cool we minecraft great movie I said everybody's sure they did how come streamers always have weird names be catchy what's a stage name what are you talking about I mean it's always like I can't I'm not even gonna try to come up so you can try to you open good of all, I would like to say

Kai and Drusky joining Kevin Hart last night, banger. Mm-hmm. Anytime, they're together. I'm a big Drusky fan. Got a chance to watch him operate. He is hilarious. His white guy, good. Oh yeah, that's solid.

Solid, yeah. That was my Uncle Ed. He was dressed up like my Uncle Ed, rest in peace. He was my Uncle Ed in that entire thing. Yeah. That was my Uncle Ed. He was dressed up like my Uncle Ed, rest in peace. He was my Uncle Ed in that entire thing. Awesome. Absolutely awesome. Kai, in speed. They want to run.

Run. I don't know how much, that's gotta be so much. Just, what are they watching? Me live. All right, every day they gotta go. Jake Paul and Logan Paul used to do that It's every day, bro. Yeah, I think it's like it is The work ethic I don't think it's talked about about these streamers. Mm-hmm. Congrats to them. They're also all in love

What happened at streamer University? There was a lot of love that was going on. There's a lot drama down there I think there's some drama going on in the love world. Some drama yesterday, because Kai didn't know who Wale was. That was a little bad. Yeah, I heard Wale went up to him and say he maybe looked like a dum-dum. Yeah, he did. He doesn't know about left hand up. He said, who's Wale? Kai said that?

Yeah. Did he really? Oh, I'm dead serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then... Oh, no. Not good. Yeah, not good.

Maybe Wale will go back into the booth. Maybe that'll send, why's my name Wale? go back into the booth. Maybe that'll send Why's my name Wale? And they keep saying whale is an old line Yeah, now you can say why's my name Wale and these youngs call me Wale. Yeah, and he goes right back in there. Hopefully You ever listen to Waka Flocka these days? Holds up. I haven't in a while. I thought we did. He always goes hard to the pain.

I love Waka. Whenever he was going to be at Monday Night Raw, I was trying to explain to Michael Cole who Waka Flocka was. He said, who is Waka Flocka Flame? I said, bangers only. He said, what do you mean? We're on the bus. Loud sound system.

Just straight to Waka's top five. They all sound pretty much the same. I did not. Turn it up, though. the bus, loud sound system, just straight the walkers top five. They all sound pretty much the same. I did not. Turn it up though. I didn't know he had a diamond record until he was shown overall. And he had, I think, on this diamond shit. No hands, I think.

Yeah. So good. Might have been that one. Think about how many. Yeah. Everyone. Everyone in the pain. It's a party.

It's a party. It's a party. Grocery party, yeah, absolutely. Pardon the pain. It's a party. It's a party. It's a grocery party. Yeah, absolutely. There's another one He got a whole lot of money bitches coming for me It's a party it's a party And they just stopped out of nowhere they started DJing. I watched him do a DJ set here in Indianapolis, Indiana Just press play and then just literally Fucking two hours straight who Nick were you with me when that yeah, I think you were with me. Yes quite the

Hustle to watch it was awesome. It was a crowd like Who did we do that with in Vegas? He wasn't on the ones in always Jermaine Dupree I mean he might have been on the ones that he might have been on the ones of twos I'm not sure but he was just playing bangers and then he was just sitting up there Oh and nuts. Yeah, he's just going and then I think he was flying out there to go hit another gig I'm like, well great. This is a good guy. I would like to let him know Where we watched him do his thing place was lit. I mean the party was he mission accomplished They hopped in a plane one did somewhere else. I think he started with it's a party. It's a party. It's dredge just flying

It's crazy. That's a good gimmick if you can get it. Why don't you guys what we need to make some music? Yeah, let's do that. Someone should because you know after Waka in that era Use it kind of died Morgan Wallins got like a hundred songs hip-hop music hip-hop music kind of died Whoa, I mean, I know Little Nobu is cool. That's my stage name. Mabu. I had nobu the other day.

Little sushi. Little sushi from Nobu. It wasn't bad. It was actually pretty... You don't know who Little Mabu is? No clue. You're about to get Miss Hands in a second. Do you know Little Man J? I've seen him in in a second, you know, little man, Jay, I've seen him in the chat a couple of times, but I don't know. I couldn't recognize this. You know why you saw him in the chat?

D. Well, he's disrespectful. Song of the summer, dude. Let me hear it gums. I Just want to pick you up. Are you talking about the new one sipping? whichever I just wanna pick you up. Are you talking about the new one, sippin'? Whichever one. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Hello, man J. Hello, man J. All right, let's get the fuck outta here.

You guys are the greatest. Hey J, we'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice and we might change our life, we're gonna sing together. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Team.

Goodbye.