The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 137 - Kyle Van Noy, Tony Dungy, & Roman Harper

Episode Date: November 29, 2019

Today’s show is highlighted by 3 incredible interviews. First, 2x Super Bowl Champion, current linebacker for the New England Patriots, and friend of the show, Kyle Van Noy stops by. He and Pat chat about New England’s most recent win over the Cowboys, why he thinks Lamar Jackson is so difficult to stop, the wizardry of Bill Belichick, and his Youtube cooking show on his channel, Vibin’ with the Van Noy’s (3:34-22:00). Next, Hall of Famer, 2x Super Bowl Champion, member of the Indianapolis Colts and Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ring of Honor, and current studio analyst for Football Night in America, Tony Dungy, joins the show. They chat about his role in selecting the NFL all-time time in celebration of the league’s 100th season and how difficult that process was and what it was like sharing a round table with Bill Belichick. Pat and Tony also discuss the league as a whole as we get closer and closer to the playoffs, and why he thinks Lamar Jackson has been so dominant and why he has been very impressed with the 49ers defense, and if this Patriots offense will get it figured out, or if the current formula is their new identity (23:36-35:36). Lastly, Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, former safety for the Saints and Panthers, Roman Harper stops by while on vacation in Paris. He discusses what exactly double coverage looks like in the NFL, and why trying to stop a guy like Michael Thomas is so difficult. He also chats about why rivalry games can be much tougher on players if one of the teams has a bad record, and he chats about his alma mater Alabama, and why he thinks they should get into the College Football Playoff, and what he thinks the best formula for success is in order to be one of the final 4 teams selected (40:05-54:55). Also included is Pat’s story of his fake punt pass on Thanksgiving against the Steelers, and his instant reaction of this week’s CFP rankings as we get ready for rivalry weekend. Don’t forget, everything at store.patmcafeeshow.com is still 20% off! Don’t wait as most of the items will sell out. Hope your Thanksgiving was incredible. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hope your Thanksgiving was absolutely fantastic. I got to call an instant classic in Starkville, Mississippi. Mississippi State beats Ole Miss due to what Matt Hasselbeck just phrased in a text message, the piss and miss game. Elijah Moore, wide receiver for Ole Miss, scores a touchdown with less than 10 seconds left on the clock to potentially tie it up in the Egg Bowl and send it to overtime. His celebration is a dog pissing on the field. Obviously, he gets it on sportsman-like 15-yard penalty. Coach Moorhead of Mississippi State, Pittsburgh guy, tacks it onto the extra point, becomes a 35-yarder. Kid misses the extra point.

Four seconds left. Takes its helmet off gonna remember this night for the rest of his life very sad scene Elijah Moore can't piss on the field everybody knows you can't pee on the field but it was an electric one football games yesterday okay Buffalo Bills get a win down in Jerry world from what I've been told the refs weren't great stunner I was getting ready for the game, but I watched the highlights here this evening. Get ready for our live show today at 10 to noon. Sale's still happening.

Shout out to the Bears, you know. Shout out to the Bears and Mitchell Trubisky finding a way to win in Detroit. Detroit, the plow, is one of the only quarterbacks in the entire league this year to throw two tutters and have over 150 yards in the first quarter. Him, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers. That's the plow for you. And the plow had a lead at halftime, I believe. And then the power went out in the building, and the Brothers Osborne couldn't even perform. A lot of people said that maybe screwed the entire mojo of the city.

All of a sudden, the Bears in the second half come back and win it. They tried their best. They tried their best to let plow come back. They almost gave plow too much time. Everybody knows you can't give Plough too much time. They almost did that. Instead, the Bears get a big win with a sack. Good for them.

Good for the Bears. Bear. God. And the Saints beat the Falcons, even though Young Ho Koo was just nailing onside kick after onside kick after onside kick. Missed a couple kicks in the game. Completed a couple onside kicks. Miss a couple kicks in a game, complete a couple onside kicks.

Sounds like the internet loves you. I assume Young Ho Koo will look back at the missed field goals and be upset about it. But hey, a couple onside kicks hit perfectly. I love everything about that for the brand. Wasn't it great for the brand day yesterday, all in all, but I love that Young Ho Koo topped it off with a couple heaters there in the onside kick department. We got a good one for you today. This show is brought to you by Se geek our presenting sponsor uh the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth and the moon if you're going to buy tickets to a sporting event a concert

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electric a man who is a part of a defense that has been absolutely dominant. A two-time, two-time Super Bowl champion. Looks like he has a very fresh fade with a fresh beard. And I think I heard a baby. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Vandor. There we go. I like it, baby. Thanks for letting me in.

It's daddy daycare today. I got my son. We're hanging out. It's Tuesday, so it's the off day. We're vibing. What is your son's name? Trey Legend. I love that name.

That is one of my favorite names I've ever heard in my entire life i might change i want to name my kid uh midas or uh maximus or uh doctor or a lot of things yeah you speak it into existence pat you're on you're on the right track dr legend mcafee would be a hell of a name mr van noy okay let's talk about your patriots team you guys have been dominant on the defensive side of the ball and special teams. The offense is still finding their groove. What has been the message inside the locker room? Is it just win however we need to win? Or is the defense like,

yo, we know that the offense hasn't found it yet. They will at some point. Let's just keep doing our thing. Yeah, I think you said it right there. It's find a way to win. It doesn't matter. In our organization, we believe that at the end of the day, stats don't really matter.

All that matters is a W in that column, and that's what we strive for each and every week. Offense is getting better each and every week. The defense is holding strong. The special teams is holding strong. We know Tom Brady's the GOAT. We know he's going to get those guys going. We're just going to continue to keep doing our part.

I mean, anytime you have guys like Hightower, Jamie Collins, myself, and then our boy who's the best corner in the league, Stephon Gilmore, who's playing out of his mind, we're blessed to be in the position, Stephon Gilmore, who's playing out of his mind. We're blessed to be in the position we're in, and we hope to continue that path to greatness. He had more receptions than Amari Cooper this past weekend. It was the mindset. Now, granted, the Patriots had Revis in the past too,

where it was the same thing. Like, hey, we'll just let him take care of a guy. Is the mindset like Stephon Gilmore is going to eliminate their best guy? We just know that. I don't know. Every week I just put an X through that receiver. Or I shouldn't say an X. I just put a lock around him. Gilly Lockett, man, he's playing really well.

And, you know, anytime you have a player like that who doesn't speak, it's insane. But I feel like I get the most out of him. He definitely talks a lot to me, so that's good. But I'm happy he's on our team. He's playing really, really damn good football. I mean, dang good football. You can say damn. You just can't say the shoot.

The shoot one. By the way, the FCC rules make zero sense to me. It makes no sense to me. 2019, you can't say shh. Oots. Also things that don't make sense to me is Matthew Slater. That guy somehow is around the ball at all times when it comes to special teams. What's he like in that locker room?

Great leader. An even better person. To me, I think he deserves a golden jacket. I call him gold jacket. I respect that. I think he's one of the best teammates, leaders there are in the NFL. I mean, his charisma and his willing to sacrifice for the greater good of the team each and every week is amazing. You should see his speeches.

They're pretty epic. They're up there with yours. When's he do them? When's he do them? After the game in the locker room? Yeah, after the game. And he says some insightful, well-received message after the game, each and every game. It doesn't matter if we win or lose.

His perspective on life is unreal and unmatched. I'm really glad I get to learn from him each and every day. He's an impressive human. Wow. So he's just as good off the field as he is on it because he changes the game in special teams. Yeah. I would say he's just as good off the field as he is on it because he changes the game in special teams. Yeah. I would say he's better off. I mean, the magnitude him and his wife do in the community,

his relationship with the man upstairs and him preaching Christianity is amazing. I haven't met anybody like him. Really good human. Pretty big season for him coming up, by the way. A birthday around the corner for the old Jesus. Speaking of you guys now, it's post-Thanksgiving almost. Bill Belichick has said that his teams need to be humming post-Thanksgiving. What can you guys fix to become even better? He goes, well, football after Thanksgiving is real football.

That's my best deal, but that sounds about right. He's been good on this NFL all-time team. I've only seen a couple clips with him. I haven't got a chance to watch the entire thing. He's hosting a show on NFL Network. Do you guys watch that? No, but he raved about it. He said that he did a lot of research.

He said it was one of the most memorable opportunities he's had in a while of being able to go back and look through players and talk nicely about players and uh he he really he really said he enjoyed it and i'm excited to look at i haven't had time to um obviously but you know when i get the chance i want i want to see if i make that list well i think i think the thing it's a lot of old heads picking the people by the way so i think there might be a little bit of a bias towards the generation we talked to tony dungy in the first hour he's a part of the panel that put it together he talked about bill polly and i didn't hear any

other names but i'm assuming it's gonna be a lot of old heads making decisions as it showed by the way they've earned the right to do that but there could be a little bit of generational bias we'll see how that works getting a chance you get a chance to hear belichick speak on a daily basis for a lot of us the only time we hear him speak is in that press conference so getting a chance to watch the clips of him like breaking down things you're like damn this guy really is everything that we've heard about him yeah he's definitely a football savant anytime he's teaching you're definitely i'm definitely listening and taking notes. I mean, hopefully I can get my Pop Warner team when I'm done playing ready to roll. Fundamental football, they're going to get right.

And, you know, I'm going to be saying a lot of the things Bill says. And, you know, it sticks in your head, especially I think last on the last episode when I was on with you, you're out in the middle of the game and you're sitting out there like, damn, he just went over that two days ago and it's happening in the game. And, you know, it's a blessing to play for him and learn from him. And I'm just excited to continue this path to where we're going and where we want to be. Yeah, I could fathom that you guys feel that the train's starting to roll, especially with how dominant the defense has has been it's like in the do your job segment where they talked about that two-point conversion where he talked about it like a month before and he was like hey let's

get some work on two-point conversions we might need it at some point oh to win the super bowl is when actually we need that yeah it makes no sense to me it makes no sense have you ever met that ernie adams guy is that his name yeah ernie boy mr robocop he always got them big old looking fire boy he's always looking fire on the sideline whenever you see him doesn't doesn't say much but man is he just full of knowledge i mean he knows every rule every situation and he teaches you know if you go up to him he'll he'll spit um you know to some people you know to the normal person it sounds like spanish if you don't speak spanish but if you're a football guy and your football iq's um up there he'll break it down to where it's football 101 and he's a really good teacher i'm i'm glad i get to chit chat with him

each and every day he definitely has helped me out with a lot of situations okay has ernie adams seen anything like lamar jackson last night i don't know if you got a chance to watch yeah last night he's balling bro balling and you guys obviously had a little bit of a struggle with him he's an anomaly right now that has been different than anything i think i've ever seen in the league yeah why is that i think he's he's bringing a whole different swag to football i mean you you can see him i i love i love his attitude i mean after uh uh yeah the little dance yeah i mean from little little things like when I think they had a false start penalty, he threw the ball in the dirt because he's chasing greatness. And as a player, I respect that because, you know, you want that on the other side. When I line up, you know, I want to beat you.

And he's trying to do the same. And I love that intensity he brings. He's bringing a whole different feel to the NFL, and I'm happy for him. He's giving kids a chance. I think it's awesome. I think that conversation he had with Harbaugh on the sideline is something that's going to be accurate for a long time. He said, you know how many kids are going to wear the number eight

and play quarterback because of you going forward he's completely changed the game now a human that has changed the game is obviously bill belichick now you guys didn't have success with him against him the first time i said let's assume if any coach will be able to figure something out after playing somebody one time going forward the next time they potentially run in them it's going to be bill belichick what is something that you have you don't have to give away anything. I'm sure you guys haven't even talked about it yet. But what is something that he exposes in a defense

that nobody thinks about until it's game time? Is it how fast he is? You can't tell how fast he is on film? Or what exactly is it? Well, it's just guarding an extra person. He's an extra – you know, he's not only a good quarterback, but he's an extra running back in the run game. And it's hard to account for that because that's an extra person.

So, you know, when they're running that speed option with an extra puller and a fullback out, so you have to defend that. Plus, he can keep it or pitch it. It's a tough deal, and you got to be on your A game. And, you know, unfortunately, we weren't that night, and hopefully we'll be the next time if we see them down the road. But I'm going to say the Bill Belichick answer, we're focused on the Texans, baby.

Okay, you're focused on the Texans, baby. Okay, you're focused on the Texans. Your game against the Cowboys was the highest rated game since 2007 the NFL has had. I mean, a lot of— What do you think about that? That's kind of crazy, right? Yeah, it's insane. I think that's what happens, though, when you have the Patriots, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Kyle Van Noy taking on America's team, Jerry Jones, which has been very hit or miss all year.

I think that's why people were intrigued by it yeah we're the nightmare now america's nightmare baby hey there was a couple uh phantom tripping calls there that you guys will definitely take to the bank and not care about but the nfl had to apologize for yeah but there was also holding calls too. Oh! Hey! Okay, Deshaun Watson coming up, the Texans. The ball was out at the end of the game. You'll see that on film.

Darius Leonard knocked the ball out. It was clearly sitting in his hands. The ref didn't overturn it. You'll see it on film. I'm sure you've already seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, the ball was out. I mean, the Colts should have got the ball. Probably would have walked down the field, scored a touchdown, game winner.

No big deal, no big deal. What have you seen from the Texans, and what are you guys looking forward to do? I'm looking forward to the matchup between Gilly Lock and DeHop. That's going to be amazing. I think our defense is versus Deshaun, and a good task for our special teams and their offensively going against their defense. It's going to be a really good game Sunday night. I mean, damn, I love Sunday night. Is there anything to that?

I talked about how the Ravens, they seem like they enjoy those primetime games. There are some players that you've met them. You've seen them that whenever the lights come on, everything kind of gets a little dear in the headlights. It feels like primetime is something that happens every week for the Patriots. Yeah. It's a blessing to be on TV for the family, that's for sure. My family doesn't get too many games, so it's a blessing that they're able

to see all the way on the West Coast. So I'm always excited to play on primetime for them, to try to make a play for my mom and my dad. And, you know, honestly, for some players, I mean, I think, you know, when you're Tom, every game is primetime. And that's kind of how our team rolls. We kind of take that feel from Tom Brady. Every game is primetime.

We know everyone's watching. Everyone's paying attention to what we're doing. So I don't think we'll have a different approach. But, you know, I love playing on Sunday night. Get Chris Collinsworth juiced up, you know, his little sliding intro. You know, we got to get it. Well, Chris Collinsworth and Bill Belichick are now co-hosts of a show together. It's going to be interesting to hear what he has to say.

I bet you he's going to be saying, you know, when I was talking to Belichick during the NFL All-Time Team, he told me that it's going to become an entire – it's going to become an entire cell. You guys are so fun to watch. Hey, quick question about life going forward here before I let you go and enjoy your afternoon. Will you let Trey Legend Van Noy play football?

Ooh, if that's what he wants to do, man, I can't, I can't hold them back. Okay. I believe in that. If your kid wants to do something,

I don't see why not. I have a quick question for you. Go on. How is exciting? Is it to get such good responses from the mass of the nation about your college football entry bro you're killing it i gotta do it i gotta say it so i'm i'm i'm happy for you you're doing a really good job on it you're killing it that means a lot and by the way a lot of people have been saying a lot of very nice things. Boy, there's some people that say some very terrible things to me.

I mean, there are some people who are not for the brand. No, for sure not. Just like they're not for Booger or for Joe Buck. There's some haters out there, you know? That's why they are where they're at, and that's why you're where you're at. So you're doing good. Well, I appreciate that. I'm having a lot of fun.

The thing about it is everybody's scared to mess me up right so i don't i don't want to ever compare myself to lamar jackson as a human but i am an anomaly in this sports broadcasting world right so yeah everywhere i go all they ever say to me wwe does this espn has been doing this the zone and westwood one of them we just want you to be you i'm like okay you said it i mean i'm gonna do it so if i'm on top oh yeah that's so tight it is it is it's and at some point i assume it's going to change but at this point it's like yeah what the hell all can we do before i get yelled at here that's kind of where that's what i know you know it's kind of just keep jumping in lakes and rivers or whatever yeah there we go and so my lady and I were on some vitamins last night, and that video popped up again on her, I think on her thing.

And she said, did you even think that like, that could have been a foot and a half deep. Like you couldn't see through that. There could have been rocks or sticks or anything like that. I was like, you know what, funny, I hadn't thought of that until right now. There could have been a log underneath that thing just sticking right up.

I could have been pierced right in the face. I know. Not even a log underneath that thing just sticking right up i could have been pierced right in the face and i know not even a thought of that and by the way ignorance is bliss i'm a very dumb individual it's been helping me this whole time hey keep keep on baby you're doing really well and by the way did you did you get some love with another suit i mean was your tailor there around giving you another suit how did that work no i had to walk like a mile back to the studio by the way they had a couple of towels for me but i couldn't put the towel on because then you look soft you know what i mean you can't look soft walking through all the people so i put shorts on the thing was i don't normally wear cowboy boots

but in that water couldn't get the boots off of the feet took me 15 minutes to get the anchors off of my feet it was a bad scene over there man i almost broke an ankle did you almost sink then were you oh oh yeah so they told me it was eight feet first of all i was told by the captain of the pontoon there was eight feet okay so when i jump in you see me start doing this because i knew that my boots were going to start being anchors so i'm like oh my god oh my god oh my god and then my feet hit the ground and i'm like wait a minute and i stand up and it's like right here i'm like oh this was not eight feet i mean this was very well yeah i could have died there would have been a legend yeah you

can't trust that you can't trust that captain no more he used to be fired they call it sailgating down there which is a pretty cool thing they have all their pontoon boats out in the river and they just get after it on the brazos river i think it's a pretty good idea i assume there's gonna be more belly flops in the future down there that's what's up hey pat i i gotta go i gotta go shoot my vibe with the van noise on youtube right now so i i gotta go i've much love hey great plug right there what is vibing with the van noise it's my youtube channel so what i do is i bring teammates i'm a big food person we go to mom-and-pop shops in boston and we basically shout them out because i feel like chefs and owners are just like football players people can talk trash about us we never can say anything back

they're the same way people can give them stars say their food sucks and they never get to say anything so i give them a platform to be sucks and they never get to say anything so i give them a platform to be able to speak all right well check out vibing with the van noise can't wait to watch you this weekend watch out guy fury i'm coming baby i'll see you ladies and gentlemen two-time super bowl champion vibing with the van noise if you've been thinking about your home security, there's no better time to get it than right now. Because right now, SimpliSafe Home Security is giving listeners of this show the most amazing, exclusive Black Friday offer. This week, SimpliSafe is offering listeners of this show a huge exclusive deal for Black Friday. 25% off any new system plus a free hd

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which helps men become true leaders of their family. He was in Indianapolis for a long time, Tampa Bay for a long time. He was a Steeler. Now you can see him on Football Night in America on NBC. He was also a part of the Blue Ribbon panel, which selected the NFL all-time team, which continues this Friday evening at 8 p.m. Eastern on NFL Network

with Rich Eisen, Chris Collinsworth, and Bill Belichick. Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Dungy. What do you say, Pat? Coach, how's it going? How's life? How is everything in the Coach Dungy world? Well, I'm doing well. We just landed in Atlanta. We're actually broadcasting the game Thursday night, Thanksgiving game,

Falcons and Saints. So fired up and having fun. Well, I think you do a great job on television because not only do you have an incredible resume, but your ability to break down nuances of things is a lot of fun to watch. Speaking of breaking things down, that blue ribbon team or panel that had to decide the NFL all-time team, how was that whole process? Who else was in there?

And I'm sure you enjoyed the hell out of that. Am I right? It was a lot of fun. It was challenging, though, because you're trying to compare people from different eras where statistics aren't the same, don't mean as much. You've got to figure out who was dominant in their era and compare them to who was dominant today. It was great to be on with some wonderful people. Bill Polin, obviously you know well.

Bill Belichick was amazing during the whole process, a great historian. I think you're seeing some of his personality come out on these shows. A lot of the writers have been covering the league for years but it was it was difficult trying to go across generations and compare people that's always the conversation between jordan and lebron and players from the past and players of now is like well if jordan had the same training and technique practice that the guys have now well how much better would he be and for the guys of today going back to then well if a guy was six foot eight 350 pounds let's assume he would have been a dominant offensive tackle back then too it is very difficult to do that yeah and you look at uh like don hudson who um you know caught a thousand yards worth of passes

when the rest of the receiving core in the league was averaging 250 yards or 300 how do you compare that to what jerry rice did in his era and that those are the conversations we had it was pretty incredible well i think you guys have done a great job thus far i'm enjoying that show because and you don't get a chance to see bill belichick act in a way that he's acting in this he's breaking things down from the history of the game. You're talking about a guy who's had the most success in the history of coaching football. To listen to him be a host of a show has been fantastic. Let's pivot now.

At what point do you put Lamar Jackson on the NFL's all-time team? Is that now or is that next week? I had Robert Griffin III doing the same thing. If you remember, he came in, took the league by storm, was making these 70-yard runs and just saying, how do you defend that? And Lamar is playing outstanding. He's playing fantastic. But let him stay healthy, number one.

And then, number two, let these pro coaches. Here's what I think is going to happen. You know, Pat, how normally in the spring college coaches come to visit uh your otas and get ideas on how how to do things and plays you're going to see all these defensive coaches go visit alabama and visit auburn and visit clemson and how do you guys defend these read options how do you defend the rpos you're going to see a different set of defenses next year uh because the ravens have taken everyone by surprise with this offense that is what happened to rg3 and what happened to the wildcat but i assume michael vick had a long run there of

success how do you stop something that is almost very difficult to prepare for because it feels like lamar jackson can go off script and when somebody goes off script and can make a lot of plays that's hard to prepare for right because you're training and practicing for if this then this but with Lamar it's a complete different animal am I wrong there you are absolutely right it's like playing against Barry Sanders you do everything right you have a guy in position to make the play he can't make the play because he's not a good enough athlete and then Lamar goes 40 yards with something that you had technically played right. So that's the problem with him. And the other thing I didn't think he would be able to do this quickly is throw the ball so well,

so accurately and with so much poise from the pocket. I expected to see these runs and him making plays. But now you leave people open because you're crowding the line of scrimmage he's hitting them at about 90 that's incredible it is something to marvel at every time he steps on the field he's made the game very exciting to watch and on the flip side of last night's game this la rams team looks completely dead tony i mean coach they look bad what is the big difference from last year whenever they were in the Super Bowl? Now, granted, they didn't perform great, and they might have got away with one of past interference there in New Orleans.

But last year, they took the world by storm. This year, it seems like they're just one big dud, Coach. What can happen in 365 days to have that big of a change in a team? They have lost their mojo on offense, and I really think it starts with Todd Gurley. That was the hammer that they had you had to kind of defend him like you defend Lamar we've got to commit everything we've got to stop the run and that opened up some easy throwing lanes well now they're not getting that and Jared Goff has to to create those passing plays and it just hasn't happened so far so I

think they've got to get their offense going again and get specifically that run game i think they're done for i don't like i don't like i heard your comment about the the 49ers don't sleep on the niners now this i don't think this game is going to be a 21 point game next week i'm looking forward to seeing it because there are some athletes on that 49ers defense you love that you love defense you love good defense i on that 49ers defense. You love defense. You love good defense. I think the 49ers team, I didn't give them enough respect or credit early because they hadn't played anybody. Then they should have beat the Seahawks if you make another kick, and they've had a couple big wins.

But this Ravens team, I think the Niners defense really feasts on teams that don't have good offensive lines. This Baltimore Ravens offensive line seems to be legit. You see things differently? No, they are they uh this is going to be a great matchup because you've got a tremendous offensive line going against all those number one draft choice defensive linemen i think people if you love football you're going to love to see this now the thing i think believe it or not give san francisco a chance this monday night on the West Coast, coming back, losing a day,

they're going to have to get that energy back. They're a young team, and I think they will, but the 49ers have a day advantage on them. That's big travel, too. I mean, they have it at home, though, I believe, which is good for them, and it's tough to play. They didn't get back until early this morning, and now you've got to kind of rest up and try to get going.

And then San Francisco gives you a lot of problems to prepare for. Their offense would kittle back. They're able to run the ball now. It's going to be a great game, I think. I think so, too. I'm excited for it. Those are my top two teams right now, my number three team, and I think I only have them there because of how dominant their defense has been

and their special teams. But their offense hasn't been able to click just yet yet i assume they'll be able to figure out by the playoffs rex ryan said i would love to coach against this new england patriots team now granted i don't think he's paying enough uh credit to the defense or to their special teams but what do you think's going on in new england on that offensive side of the ball is it a lack of a weapon and do you think they'll get it figured out by the time whenever it all really starts to matter no i think this is what they're going to be they lost their center uh they struggle their left tackle's been in and out they don't have big play receivers uh this is the team and they won a super bowl back in 2000 i want to say 2001 or

2003 just like this with a running game and great defense opportunistic special team they know how to play that way and you know Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl in Denver that way with great defense good running game and timely passes I think that's what you're going to see home field if they can keep home field advantage now if they lose another game and they have to go back to Baltimore I don't think there's any way in the world they win in Baltimore. But if they get Baltimore up there in New England, they've got a chance. How big is

home field advantage for the defensive side of the ball? Oh, it's huge. When the other team has to go on a silent snap count, that creates a lot of advantage for your defensive line, weather conditions for New England. They know how to play in that sloppy, windy weather. And just being at home, resting up, having your fans there, the energy you get from them.

You know, our Super Bowl year, we got down 21-3. If you're on the road, that's hard to come back from. But when you have your crowd behind you and energy, it makes a big difference. Okay. So big news this weekend for your school, University of Minnesota. College Game Day will be traveling to Minnesota. Coach, what are they in store for and how excited are you that the Gophers are all the way back Sky U Mall? Well, first time ever for College Game Day to be there. I think that's awesome.

I've been following the team. The energy in the city and on campus has been up all year. The Penn State game was phenomenal. And for those that don't know, this Minnesota-Wisconsin game played for Paul Bunyan's X. It's huge every year,

no matter what the records are. But now with the chance to make some big noise, it's going to be a great Saturday. Coach P.J. Fleck. He is an interesting guy, man. I've gotten a chance to chat with him. He makes me want to run through a wall. Have you gotten

a chance to meet him and chat with him at all? You would love to play for him, and you'd be his type of guy. He's done a great job. Somebody who would dive into a river for him his type of guy he's done a great job somebody who would dive into a river but uh no he's done a great job uh getting the excitement level up recruiting well and not only that but coaching well they they are a well-coached team so i'm really in coach flex corner and then he's done a fantastic job all right coach before you let you go i assume you're a very busy man what was it like to coach peyton manning was that a pain in the ass or was

it awesome it was awesome but you had to be prepared because every day he was going to come in with questions can we do this why don't we do that i'd like to do things this way and you better have answers and they better be good answers but once you did answer him then he was going to be 100 miles an hour for you he was going to be the leader the guy who pushed everybody else and he was a joy to coach uh he was tremendous and uh just i have so much love and respect for him unbelievable well coach i think he would say the same exact thing about you i didn't get a chance to play for you but your words and your wisdom resonated through the building pasture time there i enjoy watching you and Rodney and, uh, Tariko Sims and Florio every Sunday night. I think

you do a great job in that NFL all time team at eight o'clock Eastern on NFL network that you helped select has been a blast to watch as well. Coach. I can't thank you enough boss. Hey, thanks, Pat. Great to be on with you. Hey, we'd love to chat with you again, by the way. Let's do it. Did you do the kickers and punters of the all-time team as well? That was, you know, hard to really get a grasp on because you had some kickers who, like Jan Spinnerud, who are kicking at 60% when everybody else was kicking at 40%. What does that mean? You know, and how good was he when no one practiced special teams? So those are the kind of things that Coach Belichick brought up that you had to take into consideration.

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Any different? It's a short week playing against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Playing against a hometown team. Biggest Turkey Bowl in the history of Turkey Bowl is primetime television in Indianapolis, Indiana. That morning we have a walkthrough with our special teams coach. Had a couple practices the day before. You know, it's a short week. You don't get to work on much.

On a piece of paper that was ratted and tatted and torn apart, he starts drawing X's and O's about a fake that he wants to run tonight because he saw something on film. Tom McMahon says, Eric Swope, you're here. You're going to run a drag route across. You're going to release Clayton Gethers. You're the PP. You're going to run a wheel route on the backside.

Pat, you either throw it to Swope if he's open, or if not, you close your eyes and throw it as far as you can back here for the wheel route of Clayton Gethers rolling out of the backfield. I was like, sounds good. Never in a million years would I have thought that a fake that was drawn up day of the game would get called because fakes don't ever get called anyways. I get into warm-ups.

I start slinging the rock around in warm-ups like I do every single week. I used to play catch with a lot of people. I like to showcase the arm a little bit just so the other team has to fear it a little bit so they don't bring as much pressure on the punt. Chuck Pagano comes up to me while he sees me slinging. He goes, throwing pretty good today? I was like, oh, yeah, every day, Chuck. And he goes, okay, good, I like what Tom just showed me.

And I was like, my, are we gonna run this thing? Then we get out there, the first one, we're backed up, got a punt, Antonio Brown's returning, damn it, fair catch. Next one, we go out there, fourth and six in the pooch territory. And as I'm jogging on the field, I see Tom McMahon's eyes are huge. And he's like, run it! I'm like, we're down 14 zip already. I assume that the Steelers think this is going to happen.

Fourth and six in the pooch territory. Up 14. I'm like, let's do it. I get the snap. I roll to the right. Eric Swope used to play basketball at the University of Miami. Releases. I roll to the right. They drop into a punt safe mode where I have to read the

safety who's coming crashing down deliver a dime to Eric Swope who gets extra yards and gets tackled ultimately by Antonio Brown that's a shame thought we were gonna score a touchdown there doesn't matter because we did a couple plays later then on Monday after that whole thing happened, I hit the billionaire strut, obviously. Mike Tomlin hits one back to me for the next kickoff. Darius Hayward-Bey, who's on the other team, is giving me a round of applause.

I'm like, thank you, boys. Thank you, boys. They go on to win by 30. Those are the only points we score. On Monday, I get called into Grigson's office and fined. We are now being joined by a man who's a Super Bowl champion, a two-time pro bowler, spent 11 years in

the NFL, mostly with the Saints, went to the University of Alabama, wrote, had, ladies and gentlemen, from Paris, with love, Roman Hart. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Thank you. Hey, bonjour, Saval. You over there in wee-wee land, yeah?

Wee-wee, wee-wee. Bonjour. What are you doing? Stopping by to move? Taking some pictures with that thing you're not allowed to take pictures with? Yeah, I actually did take – well, you have to have the flash off. That's the big thing. Somehow or another, the flash messes up the painting.

I don't really get that or whatever Yeah, it's been pretty cool. I also noticed something my neighbor in North Carolina Actually, they're in Paris as well, and she pointed something out to me that I have no idea French men have very narrow shoulders, so now I can't stop looking Everybody's shoulders are around it. It's so true. You got some thin dudes ready to quit in war at any given moment. I try to bring up war because I know they are, like, defeated at war. Shout out to the French. They've brought us a lot of great things,

but also have a lot of terrible things in their past of being cowards. Now, let's move forward. The New Orleans Saints right now, a team near and dear to your heart, you won a Super Bowl with. They are getting hot. And Michael Thomas, a lot of people are saying, best player in football right now.

Do you feel the same way? It's really hard to argue against it because everybody knows he's going to get the ball and he still finds a way to get 10 catches every game. Like, somehow or another, he's still getting 10 to 12, 13 catches. 140, 100 and some yards every game, week in, week out. And he's facing the best defensive guys that they have. They're double teaming.

They're doing whatever it is. And Sean Payton, Drew Brees, and those guys are finding different ways to get creative, to get Michael Thomas the ball. And this guy is a beast on the field. He plays hard. He is attacking the ball all the time. And not only that, but his run after the catch is something sneaky that we don't give him enough credit for because he doesn't just go down.

He plays with attitude all the time. As a safety, now when people talk about double coverage and you're kind of watching it and everybody's like, well, it doesn't look like there's two people on him. There's always like a shade over the top, right? Can you explain what a double team in the NFL looks like? So a double team in the NFL, look, we're going to have a corner play inside and underneath. And then the safety is going to be over the top for anything going deep or over the corner's head.

So that's how you kind of take it away. Or you can do a slice technique, which would be the nickel or the corner being shaded outside. So he's outside and high over the top. And then I got an inside safety coming down late to take away the inside and underneath routes so that could be another double team or i know one time we got creative in the red zone against calvin johnson we just said bump it we're just going double jam or vice and we just put two people right in front of the line of scrimmage and then if that right there is the ultimate double-team coverage

when you just line up two guys just like jammers and say, hey, we're going to get this guy. And now the quarterback doesn't even look his way. Okay, so whenever you have four eyes on a guy, like Michael Thomas at all times it sounds like, how is he still getting 130? Is that good offensive draw by Sean Payton, or is that strictly Michael Thomas and Drew Brees being on the same page?

It's got to be both of those things. First of all, you know, when you've got guys doubling, that means they're trying to take him away. But I think the Saints do a great job of putting Michael Thomas in the slot position where it's harder to double guys. Well, if you do double, you have to show it right away. So now that allows you to show your hand as a defense, and offensively that kind of gives you an advantage for Drew

because that's what they like to do. They like to run a lot of empty sets. So they'll put Alvin Kamara on the same side with Michael Thomas and really kind of make defenses kind of show their hand because that's what teams are trying to take away when you're playing the New Orleans Saints are those two guys. So when you start doing that, that allows for people like Jared Cook to all of a sudden now he's coming alive and other things like that.

And then now if you're not doubling these guys, now i know exactly where i want to go to the ball and one-on-one nobody's covering michael thomas right now so drew's very confident with throwing the ball to him i think i mean that he never drops the ball and drew's not accurate throwing it to him his catch percentage is unreal when actually targeted okay so by the way thanks for breaking it down i feel like a much smarter person um tomorrow night just a little defensive perspective you know what i mean it's just a little bit well if you can give us some some perspective on the rivalry that's the saints falcons that goes on tomorrow night the falcons just a couple weeks ago i mean came in to a buzz saw in the superdome against a hot drew breeze a hot michael thomas it made him look bad is that

just a rivalry game, an off game? What should people expect tomorrow night, Saints-Falcons? I think the Saints really need this as a bounce back. Not only that, but the 49ers are not losing right now. So in the Saints' mind, they're trying to get to the one seed. They're trying to get home field advantage. This game is bigger than just the normal Atlanta versus Saints rivalry game, which it will be ratcheted up a little bit because of that.

But playoff implications are really big for the Saints. And now the Atlanta Falcons are playing spoilers. I thought they were going to continue on this trend of playing well, but then they get smacked by Tampa Bay all of a sudden. So who is Atlanta? Are they the real team that showed up the last two weeks versus Carolina and the Saints? Or what they saw just this past Sunday? So I'm really looking forward to it. I think the Saints or what they saw just this past Sunday so I'm really

looking forward to it I think the Saints go out there and get this game because I thought the first game they were sleepwalking and just going through oh we'll we'll get it right by the third quarter we'll get it right by this and then they never got it right and you look up Atlanta wins that game and they got some confidence built and things like that but now two weeks later they're kind of right back in the same lull of where they were. I think that's what people forget about NFL players because they're in video games and all these things is they're humans. So that mindset of, oh, we'll get it right in the third, that can really happen, especially if you're playing against a team that's probably going to get blown up

at the end of the season. Right. And not only that, Atlanta was supposed to be good this year. I thought they were going to be a team that was in contention, especially in the NFC South. And now you look up, they hadn't won a game all year long. You're facing them and you're like, yeah, we'll just go ahead and dust them up real quick. Coming off of a bye week, they were rested. Like all the things say that you're going to win this game easily.

And all of a sudden you get blown up and you get beat up. And, you know, they sat through four or five, six times more than what they had like all year long. It was a crazy game. And so now you look at it, I think the Saints are going to be more prepared. They understand exactly what they're going all year long it was a crazy game and uh and so now you look at it i think the saints are going to be more prepared they understand exactly what they're going to be getting into i think marshawn latimore needs to play uh if he does not play i think julio jones and calvin really have a big day so i think marshawn latimore will play a big role in this if he's healthy enough to go yeah he's a heck of a db back there you said that the niners aren't going to lose i actually disagree i think whenever they take on the Ravens, I think

they are going to lose strictly because of this. Now listen to me here. You're a big defensive guy. You've obviously watched the Niners defense be very dominant. It seems like to me with the Cardinals and a couple of the Seahawks, if it's a good offensive line with a mobile quarterback, that defense can struggle. By the way, every defense

can struggle with that, but that might be that defensive script tonight. Do you think Lamar Jackson and the Ravens have what it takes to go in and beat the Niners? Well, they're at home, but beat the Niners in that defense? I do, just because the Ravens are having so much fun. They make me want to go play football again.

And I don't say that a lot. They are having fun, they're winning, and they're playing with swag. I mean, this guy Lamar Jackson is amazing with what he's doing right now and it's crazy because everybody that doubted him and said he couldn't do these things that he was doing in college he's kind of doing them in the nfl and making everybody look yes and it's funny because just because the defensive end oh you know you're running the option and things like that i ran some option in high school so the defensive end has you has the

quarterback but when the quarterback is somebody the best athlete on the field, it's a problem because the DN is not the best athlete. So you get him in space against a guy like Lamar Jackson. He doesn't even stand a chance. And then next, you know, he's on to the second level, third level, and he's running by linebackers and safety. So it's just a really hard problem to deal with now that. But it's like it's like preparing against Navy, right? Like you say, it's an offense that you don't see every week defensively. So you're not used to see in these like, you know, having three tight end sets or running game that's straight downhill.

You so much seeing you see so much more of like spread out and offenses doing now more 11 personnel where Baltimore is going back to old school and things that you're not used to seeing or preparing for defensively makes it so hard to get a good grasp of that in just one week. That's such an interesting thought because Bill Belichick was born and raised in the Navy football program. His dad coached there for 40 years, and even he had problems with Lamar Jackson. I'll be excited to see if anybody can stump him. You mentioned college. Let's talk about college. Do you still follow college

football, Roll Tide and all that stuff? I mean, that's the only ball I really follow. I mean, the NFL teams ain't paying my house note no more, so I don't care about it. Roll Tide, baby. Roll Tide. Okay. They're currently sitting outside at

number five, looking in at the college football playoff. But a lot can happen in the SEC. How do you feel about Ohio State being ranked one over LSU, Clemson three, Georgia four right now with Bama sitting at five? I think Ohio State's been the best team in college football. I agree. And just when you look at their body of work, look, this guy Justin Fields is off the chain.

He's got a big arm. He's a problem. I don't know. Look, Alabama, we don't want to face him for real our defense isn't good so i'm a little nervous and we don't have to uh it's a lot of different shaky things i'm kind of nervous and as an alabama fan i don't know if i can deal with another loss like the trollers are real and so i might just be happy with going to a bowl game and just winning my bowl game. You know what I mean? Like, it's okay. We don't get enough credit for winning your last game of the year. Like, that's a big deal in college football.

So I think LSU has beat the best amount of teams, like the best teams in the NCAA this year. But their defense is what's going to separate them versus Ohio State, who I think that guy Chase Young can go out there and win you a game himself. Right now, Clemson's really playing well. I think they're on the way up right now. They're playing at a – they're trending in the right direction. And then you got Georgia at four, but I think LSU will beat Georgia, and then that probably will put us back in. And Oregon losing the other week really helped too,

because now they got out the way too, which, you know, that's another thing. I don't think people understand, like, winning in college is so hard to do week in and week out because you're dealing with 18, 19-year-old kids. Somebody might have broken up with their girlfriend. Somebody might be emotional about this. Like, things happen when you're 18, 19 years old. Yeah, and you got school as well. I mean, there's a lot of things that play into it.

I mean, the girlfriend, though, is 18. I went to Alabama. I didn't think about school. Hey, I talked to Cardale Jones last week, and he had that tweet where he was like, we're getting paid to play football not to go to school or whatever. And he is actually like a scholar, that guy, out of nowhere. Now, what happens if Utah goes undefeated in the Pac-12?

Okay? They go undefeated, and they don't make it into the top four. What does that say about the college football playoff selection process and everything like that because pac-12 by all accounts is one of the biggest conferences in all football this team could run the table win it and still be outside looking in on a couple one loss teams that have made it in what do you think that is well i i think the biggest thing is you have to you have to win to get in. Like, you can't lose games in the Pac-12. Like, you just can't do it. And Utah lost one early that seems like it's going to come back to haunt them.

And I know they're running the table in the Pac-12, but the loss early hurt them. The same way it kind of, you know, it really – so Alabama, you look at it, because everybody wants to talk about Alabama's strength of schedule. It is weak. But it's also because everybody in the SEC West has gotten terrible. All right. And the one time, you know, you got Tennessee on the on the east.

They've got they've all of a sudden been terrible. So you really can't control who you're playing. And then outside the other teams that, you know, you can't. And not everybody wants to schedule Alabama. It's hard to schedule games, you know, out of conference games against Alabama as well because people just don't line up to play them. So you do this. So you look at the count of like the loss was to who. And right now, Alabama has the best loss of all the one loss teams when it comes from LSU. So that's why I think they get the nod. But I do understand the argument because you want champions into the whole system.

And it's just it's just bad because the Pac-12 football as a conference has gone down the last few years and has not got the credit that maybe they should deserve or maybe they need to continue to play up. Like, would the same issue be happening if we had USC in the same conversation? No. That's exactly what I'm saying. Los Angeles, that's why. That's because it's Los Angeles. I think everybody knows that.

You know what I mean? I think that's exactly what it is. That's because it's Los Angeles. I think everybody knows that. You know what I mean? I think that's exactly what it is. It's tradition and everything like that. Now, the interesting thing to me will be if Minnesota goes on to win the Big Ten championship and beats Ohio State, Ohio State has one loss in the championship. Does Ohio State drop out of the top four all of a sudden? Does Minnesota jump in? Georgia lost to South Carolina, almost lost to Kentucky.

They're in. I mean, what is the – there's so much subjective conversation that has to happen. I think that's why they keep everybody but the Oregon AD anonymous. It's like a jury for a murder trial. You have no idea. Well, it's bad. I think that the best thing that happened to the Oregon AD was Oregon losing. So now he's not going to get like, get killed for, like, not putting his own team in

or not standing up to make sure his own team gets in if they win the Pac-12. Now, look, you're right. That would be a cluster you-know-what if Ohio State loses. Because these teams, they need to get in. Like, these teams need to win. Clemson's another team. If they slip up somewhere, how could you not want to put Clemson in if they've been this good all year long?

And now you've got all this jumbled up group of these one-loss teams. How do you pick one in? Not only that, but Alabama without Tua Tonga-Vailoa. And they say they would include injuries when it comes to all these things. So, how do you not? So, trust me, if I'm a playoff committee, I want these teams to stay undefeated so I can just slowly select my teams, keep getting them in,

and don't let these other teams get in. Like, it's just, hey, look, if you don't have an invite to the party, you can't complain about how the party wasn't fun. Oh, no, I was just saying, like, if Georgia does beat LSU and then Minnesota does beat Ohio State, who knows what's going to happen.

It's a complete nonsense. It has to go to eight teams, five champions, three at large. Keep it moving. That's just the way it goes. Speaking of keep it moving, hey, good luck on the rest of your vacation over there. Check out those thin shoulders. Make sure you feel like a real alpha over there. We can't thank you enough.

You're incredible, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Roman Harper. I appreciate it. I love to come back home, guys. Thank you, guys. Get back You're incredible, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Roman Harper. Hey, roll tide. Merci beaucoup. Bonjour. Savo. Au revoir. Au revoir. See you later, man. The new college football

playoff rankings. At the top of the rankings, there is a new team at the top of the mountain. The Ohio State Buckeyes are now officially the number one ranked college football team in the country. Number two is LSU, number three is Clemson, number four is Georgia, number five, Bama, number six, Utah, number seven, Oklahoma, number eight, Minnesota, nine, Baylor, ten, Penn State.

Now, let's go right back to the top of the Ohio State-LSU. I've been saying now for, what, a week and a half, LSU gave up 614 yards to Ole Miss. That's a lot of yards. If you have a defense that has the ability to give up that amount of yards, you would think in a big-time game there's a chance that could happen again. Everybody's saying, well, their strength of schedule has already been immaculate and they haven't really got bitten in the butt by that thus far they beat alabama in alabama i understand all of that i very much understand all that but justin fields a quarterback for ohio state let's assume

that if the old miss quarterback who i should know name, can put up 614 yards of offense against LSU, let's assume that Justin Fields, the most efficient guy in college football, will be able to do the same. Chase Young, the best defender in all of college football, is also on that team. And their punter and kicker are good. I like Ohio State at number one. Even if their strength of schedule hasn't even touched what LSU has yet because LSU's in the SEC, they still have to play either Minnesota or Wisconsin. They still got a couple big games where they could find a hiccup or a loss.

LSU could do the same damn thing, I guess. But for me, this looks like this is setting up how it should be, even though if you're a Clemson fan, you're sitting there like, hey, we are still the reigning champions. We have still yet to lose, and we are still the reigning champions we have still yet to lose and we are still getting hot and hotter and hotter so as long as you're in there it doesn't matter but for me i think they got it right with ohio state at one yeah ohio state offensively and defensively there's no there's no weakness to their team and then if they beat michigan

and wisconsin or minnesota those are two great wins there's no way they're leaving number one no way well they were number one at one point, and then they won by 50, and then they dropped to number two, and it was like, well, what do you expect? LSU is Georgia in the championship, SEC championship most likely, or yes. But I still don't think the win against Georgia versus wins against Michigan and Minnesota probably are going to put LSU above Ohio State.

Well, the thing about it is, and Greeny said it this morning, that they don't want LSU and Alabama playing each other in the college football playoff. They would rather have that be the championship as opposed to the first-round game, which is interesting to me. Would you rather have two SEC teams in the championship, or would you rather have them play in the first round? I don't know how much that one makes sense to me. I would like to dig deeper into Greeny's brain there

and why he would think they would think that. For me, I think, honestly, it's just strictly because of the 614 yards that LSU's defense gave up and how Ohio State doesn't seem to have fun. Now, granted, there's a little bit of a meltdown that happened there against Penn State for a couple drives that left Penn State back in the game, but Ryan Day, Ohio State got it back on track. And the fact that they lose Urban Meyer and have gotten better is hilarious to me. And that Ryan Day guy, by the way, swag.

I heard him talking to the band and the fans like two and a half hours before the game, and he was like, hey, we're going to kick their ass. He is just like, he is a tell it how it is. I think his players will rally behind him. I assume Ohio State's got a guy for the next 10 years in Ryan Day. Good for him, good for them. But for me, I think Ohio State's the most complete team. Even though Joe Burrow and what LSU has done on the offensive side of the ball

has been nothing short of impressive, their defense can step up and make some plays. For me, Justin Fields is the Heisman winner. He's the most efficient quarterback I think football has maybe ever seen with his stats, with turnover ratio to touchdowns produced. Joe Burrow, though, in that same locker room of Ohio State, leaves, goes to LSU, resurgent down there with Coach O. I think they got it right, though.

A lot of people on the show last night, the revealing show, said that they think Utah is going to jump Alabama if they win out, and I just don't. I don't see that. I don't see how that happens. Well, for the sanctity of the Leafs, Pac-12, if Utah goes undefeated in dominant fashion and college football playoff committee says,

well, we picked the best four teams with teams that have losses, with teams that do all these other things, you kind of bury the Pac-12 if you do that now granted i've gotten a chance to talk to a couple pac-12 coaches how they feel like there is a bias against them anyways in this entire thing because they're on the left coast because they play at night but if you do that and utah does go undefeated and they do win out and you don't let them in you're basically telling the pac-12 you guys are might as well be the american you guys might as well be the American Conference. You might as well be Mac.

You have no chance of making it in. What's the purpose of them being in the Power Five? There is none. So I think that's why people are saying that potentially on television to generate that conversation. But for me, I think this is the wrong system. It's better than the BCS system, which is when the NCAA sold their right to when the ncaa sold their right to name a champion they sold their right to the bcs to name a champion that's just flat out what the ncaa did

you go to the ncaa hall of fame back whenever there was uh uh the bcs thing they had the division two champion in there because that was the only champion they were allowed to name because they sold their right to bcs so So whenever BCS was happening, everybody knew it was crap. It was a crock of poop. So this now is a little bit better, but I don't think we have gotten to perfection yet. I think you have to have an eight-team playoff. I just think you have to. All the champions, the Power Fives and Three at Largest.

So then this Utah conversation is an even one because you're going to have a lot of upset people in the Pac-12. And not only are the coaches and players upset, let a lot of upset people in the Pac-12. And not only are the coaches and players upset, let's talk about the fans of the Pac-12. What do I even care about these teams for if they've got no chance to win the championship anyways? What are they going to do, win the Rose Bowl? Awesome.

The Rose Bowl means nothing. Yes, there's a lot of history and tradition to it, and it's cool to get the chance to play in the Rose Bowl. But if you're not in the playoff anymore, you might as well just call it a day. It's kind of a shame, to be honest with you. You'll get it right, though. Nice feel-good Friday here. After Thanksgiving, everybody's feeling a little fat.

Got a chance to talk about a lot of stuff. Wrap things up here by telling you that you've heard me say it the last couple episodes, but I can't help but echo this sentiment. If you listen to jewelers from all around the country, what they say is, we hate this fucking guy, Steven Singer, because Steven Singer is a jeweler who's based out of Philadelphia, but he ships nationwide, and he has prices that are just better than everybody else. It's like when Walmart meets Tiffany's. You want a good diamond? Of course you do. He has it.

You want it at a better price than everybody else? Of course you do. Steven Singer has it. And that's why everybody fucking hates the guy. You don't go into the diamond business and then just sell things at reasonable prices when everybody else isn't doing that. And that's why Steven Singer is the rebel of the jewelry business, the rebel of the diamond business. And the reason why I particularly don't love him

is because I had to buy a very expensive diamond ring less than a year ago, and I had no idea this guy existed. Don't be like me. If you need to buy jewelry, you need to buy it at a proper price with people that have a hundred day warranty. Basically, if you don't like your jewelry, send it back for a full refund. 100 days from this guy at Steven Singer. You can tell why every other jeweler fucking hates him. Right now you go to IHatesStevenSinger.com That's I, as in the letter I,

Hates, H-A-T-E-S-T-E-V-E-N-S-I-N-G-E-R.com and buy something that's better priced than the shit you're going to find in the stores and it's going to look better. And you get a 100-day money-back guarantee if you don't like it. IHatesStevenSinger.com All right. I don't hate any of you guys.

I actually love all you guys. I'm very thankful everybody listened. From myself, Evan Foxy, Zito, Ty Schmidt, Nick, Diggs, Todd, Billy, Jason McAfee, Gumpy, Block Dad, my mom, my lady, Foxy's family, Zito's family that we've never heard of, but we don't know if they actually exist or not. He says they're good people. I assume they are. They raised this incredible species, but we have no idea what they did. Boston Connor, who's been back in the action we're very thankful for all of you have the best weekend of your entire life ty schmidt

play some independent music cuz for those interested this is lately by by Jake Hallendorf. The liquor only brings me temporary peace Keep the peace, keep the peace in my mind When, when you're with me But this whiskey knows the real me Damn, if Jack and Coke's the ocean I no longer see the beach And in my mind I'm hoping You'll forgive me for what I've broken I put my hands together asking for another chance

Cause lately I've been sailing away from you What I mean, what I mean is baby I've been failing to see what's true Oh, yeah, yeah But you know that I'll make it home I'll make it on my own, yeah, yeah, yeah Lately, I've been sailing away from you Yeah, I'm feeling like this boat gon' keep on rockin' till we sink Till we sink, till we sink, tell me

Is the one you love always the one that's meant to be? Meant to be, meant to be Cause I'm tired of the standstill And my sadness, cause my glass filled, yeah The water starts to rise but I got land under my feet And in my mind I'm hoping You'll forgive me for what I've broken I put my hands together

Asking for another chance Cause lately I've been sailing away from you What I mean, what I mean is Baby, I've been failing to see what's true Oh yeah But you know that I'll make it home I'll make it on my own, yeah, yeah, yeah Lately I've been sailing away from you

Cause lately I've been sailing away from you What I mean, what I mean is Baby, I've been failing to see what's true Oh yeah yeah But you know that I'll make it home I'll make it on my own yeah yeah yeah Lately I've been sailing away from you Lately I've been settling away from you

Lately I've been settling away from you