The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1373 - Nigel Seeley, Sauce Gardner, Shams Charania, Lane Johnson, Florida Panthers GM Bill Zito, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything happening in the sports world, as they’re joined by several incredible guests including Director of Content at Betting Weekly, noted tennis and soccer sharp, Nigel Seeley joins the show to chat about Wimbledon and the FIFA Club World Cup, NFL DROY, 2x All-Pro, 2x Pro Bowler, NY Jets CB Sauce Gardner, ESPN NBA Senior Insider, Shams Charania to break the news that Mike Brown has been hired by the NY Knicks, 2x Super Bowl Champion, 5x All-Pro, 6x Pro Bowler, LT for the Philadelphia Eagles, Lane Johnson, and lastly, 2x Stanley Cup Champion, the GM of the Florida Panthers, Bill Zito. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this big sports Wednesday July 2nd 2025 this program begins now Sports are happening all around us. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day We hope you are enjoying the hell out of your summer This is actually a pretty monumental day in humans existence. This July 2nd, 2025, not only because we're two days before another birthday for United States of America, happy birthday to America, but also because this officially marks a very

pivotal point in our existence. Let's go to one half of the hammer, Cowboys, AP Tone, who is certainly going gonna nail this. Yep, July 2nd, 2025 is exactly 9,131 days away from the year to the start of the year 2000. It's also 9,131 days away from the start of the year 2050. This is the halfway point between 2000 and 2050. And that means tomorrow, guess what, we're on the backside 2050. Okay, we are closer to living in that world than we were in the y2k era so

Look around life is good. We're living. We're getting old quick all of us Yeah, but it's a lot better than the alternative okay, so you're either going another day, or you're going down in dirt So let's make sure we enjoy the hell out of that Thank you for that stature time presenting that to the class about 35 seconds before we want live. Wonderful. And said you think you'll be able to nail that whenever we start? He did. That made the best stuff you've done. A lot of numbers. Yeah. 2000, 2050, 9131, July 2nd, 2025. I mean there's a lot of... I was an accounting major, so.

Were you really? Pretty good with numbers. You're lying. Let's go to the talk table. That's why he's always so interested in all the conversations. You know, we had 401k conversation all day. Can I sublease that into a- at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt.

Ty, baseball is right around the corner from one of its biggest moments, All-Star Week happening. There's some storylines brewing around baseball. I don't know if you know this Pittsburgh Pirates are the team Yeah, have you heard about this time? I have heard about this listen Tony's been saying it and a lot of people were probably just thinking well this guy's a Pirates fan This is all tongue-in-cheek. There is no question about it since the Pirates have hired Don Kelly to be their new skipper They have been playing salty ball They're 25 and 24. So again, you know, nothing

crazy but you're starting to kind of see the pieces. This is the team we talked about before baseball season started when Pat you asked like, Hey, could this team make the playoffs this year? Their pitching is great. They can, they can do enough to maybe get there. We're kind of starting to see the bones of that come into place. The only problem obviously is that one, they don't give Paul skeens any run support ever no matter what they have They had historic numbers with the wood. Yes, and then Paul plays we can't know take this one off Everybody's to mesmerized by Paul skeens now I think the reason why that stats good to put alongside the fact that they're playing great baseball is they can still get so much

Better. Yes, the Pirates can still get so much better and there's so much season left So what I'm excited about is Pittsburgh Pirates maybe going crazy. Around baseball though, a lot of great storylines developing, a lot of teams kind of coming into like, I think their own, I would say in baseball world as we kept track of this. And then there's the big city teams over there in New York. They just suck. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that.

Start spreading the news. They lose every day. You're a big part of it. I know. Ty Schmitt, they suck at baseball in New York. What's going on? All the money spent over there. I thought you guys were supposed to be the baseball gods over there. The Mets certainly are not doing great right now. I believe I said this last week,

the Yankees do this every single year. It's called the June Swoon for whatever reason. They get up like 10 games in the division. I got big things for it. Yeah, and then they just stop playing. They just, you know, hey, whatever, we can go up to Canada and we can lose four games in a row up there.

That's fine. So they'll continue to do that. The big thing now is we are we're close to the trade deadline So we'll see which of these teams are really deciding they want to be movers and shakers So again, you like you said, it's it's still very early I think within like the first couple weeks post all-star game post home run derby That's when we'll start getting a clearer picture of like, okay These teams are really going for it and these teams are kind of gonna just fade into the oblivion just before we got off baseball I saw it this morning the Marlins have won eight straight as a dog So that's just something that's happened out there hot bats down there in Florida

Eight straight as a dog is is great for the guy who's great for the Miami Marlins that nobody shows up Hey, maybe they maybe they got inspiration from the Florida Panthers. Maybe they decided to get hot because the ice was on fire, obviously for the Florida Panthers the last two years. As absolute dynastic runs happen down there in South Florida in hockey,

joining us today will be Bill Zeta, the general manager of the Florida Panthers. He'll join us at 1.40 Eastern time to chit chat about the team being the same team until 2030. Yeah, this team is just gonna be, this is our life. Oh yeah. Running it back. Welcome to it.

We now have five more years of what is dynastic hockey being played by a very dominant team in Sunrise, Florida, down there in South Florida. The elbow room knows that they're gonna have to maybe buy out the buildings next to it to we need to start spreading the news Florida's gonna remain hockey time congrats to the Panthers. I can't wait to talk to Bill Zito We'll have Lane Johnson on the second hour He has his eighth annual O line mastermind summit taking place down there in Texas

You know a bunch of offensive linemen get together and talk about blocking our dudes That's what they do a lot big of big bodies, a lot of meat down there. We'll talk to Lane Johnson, can't wait to chit chat and congratulate him on another Super Bowl. And then in the first hour here in about 25 minutes we'll have Soss Gardner joining us. Obviously the New York Jets cannot wait to chit chat with him about the new era over there and how he feels. He's entering the fourth year of his rookie contract. They did pick up his fifth year option, so he has two years left on his contract.

Some of his draft mates have gotten paid in a big way at his position. I don't think that's been a very big talking point for Sauce. If it was to be a big talking point, I think Sauce in the New York market would have done that. Seemingly just shows up to work, does his thing, and he's also now partnered with Q-Caller, these things we started seeing guys

wear. Saus was wearing one last year, they wear it around the neck, allegedly it puts a little pressure on something and it relieves something and then it makes your brain be not as, not move as applying light pressure. Here we go, to jugular veins, causes a slight increase in blood volume inside his skull, reducing the risk of brain injury because your brain doesn't move as much okay so basically they're like let's go ahead and pull a little bit more blood in your head for me I would rather be the tomato red that I normally am it'd be a little deeper red I think is what

it's sure but allegedly it's 25 peer-reviewed scientific studies I guess it's like yes this does help or whatever maybe this is one of the answers for the future sauce liked it so much he actually teamed up with them so we'll talk to him about that and everything happening in their world and then eight minutes we'll have a British fellow named Nigel he'll come on talk about Wimbledon that's happening and then obviously if we're having a British guy on we need to tell him that the United States of America is gonna win a World Cup yeah think right easily speaking of cups Kathy Engelbert's cup was on the

line last night yeah Yeah, it was. Okay. Indiana Pacers taking on the links of Minnesota. Commissioner's Cup title and the Indiana Fever are the Commissioner's Cup champions. No, thank you. Hang the banner. Do the parade. Do your dance. Now, Caitlin wasn't able to play but obviously she was massive part of the build up to get to the finals of the Commissioners' Cup. And that team really showed up dominating, dub, last night in the Commissioners' Cup.

They celebrated afterwards in a locker room, doing dances, drinking, getting after it. Felt like we learned a lot about the team in the live feeds. Seemed like a tight bunch. Seemed like a very tight bunch. Now, Sophie obviously pissed off Detroit in Cleveland with some of her remarks But if you listen to the full thing, it wasn't you know, I think she definitely said something negative in those like but what it was I think that got taken a little bit out of context sure with that being said, but she doesn't care either She will walk into Detroit and be like what that is. She's a heel. Yeah, that is literally what Sophie is So I appreciate that Bad news out of the Commissioners Cup though Oh, oh no She's a heel. Yeah. That is literally what Sophie is. So I appreciate that.

Bad news out of the commissioners' cup though. Uh oh. Oh no. What happened? Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. What is it? You look amazing. D-Butts, somebody that we admire immensely.

Somebody that we respect and appreciate immensely. Had a moment last night that we all thought would be possible but never hoped for it to come. There has been a lady who's been on top of a unicycle, flipping bowls onto the top of her head for the last 20 years, seemingly. We're talking about one of the longest heaters of all time. This lady would show up at an event

on this super duper unicycle, 15 feet, 20 feet, whatever it is in the air. She'd be on top, just riding the unicycle at that height, absurd, on wood, okay, absolutely insane thing. Look at this, look at the balance, holy shit, she's gonna go around the court? Yeah, unbelievable. Would be better than most halftime performances, okay, if it was to happen then she would stack a bowl or two on her foot on top of the unicycle and then she would kick that thing touch power effort muscle memory everything boom up on to where her fucking head she would catch it on her god damn back ba, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, boom.

That's from when she visited us for a draft spectacular. And the reason why I had her on the draft spectacular is because when I was going to Pacers games back whenever I was a rookie here in Indianapolis, Indiana, every time she would come on, it was unbelievable. This was one of the most amazing things.

She was America's got Talent. That was like I Don't want to say super duper Whatever the case she was on she never missed This lady was one of the most impressive athletes one of the most impressive performers One of the most impressive just things in our existence that I'd ever seen So whenever I got the opportunity throw bowls to her be a part of right? I let her know that too I let her know like hey miss miss red panda. thank you for what you do. She's an athlete, okay? That is a performance, that is an athletic move.

She has to have power, balance, touch, everything, and also mental fortitude and focus to be able to pull this off. So like we are big fans of Red Panda. Gotten to know her personally. So when I saw what happened last night at that fever, no, I don't want to watch this. I would advise you not to watch. She's used to going down from that unicycle. We saw it at the Thunderdome whenever she jumped off and it's a way, way up. It is.

I mean, you're talking about way you're up on top of a basketball hoop yeah you're coming all the way down the rope yeah I mean it is you're really coming down there so she's used to falling like that this one obviously not expected they're saying she hurt her wrist uh she obviously left I would assume the entire arena was like no not Red Panda we can't have this yeah there's a lot of different conversations happening we reach out to Red Panda to get an update on her injury. They said they will keep us updated whenever they have one. So, tease and peace for Red Panda. Yeah.

Now, this is with no shit involved at all. One of the greatest performers ever in the history of anything. How hard that would be. Yeah. And then to do it every single night, it's like impressive shit. In the world was her state, she was surrounded completely. Yeah. I'm a big red panda fan. We're not saying she's retired, we're not saying anything happened. No, no. But we're saying, I think last night a lot of us got worried that a big red panda

fan's like, never seen that. Never seen that out of red panda. You assume a big time injury late in her career and you've been a part of her show. The first time I saw her live in that close was, boom, right here, fourth annual Draft Spectacular. And look, it takes a lot to get my jaw to drop, pause. I practice, I play with Tom Brady, Randy Moss, T.Y. Hilton, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, so I've seen some special shit.

Her performance here, that was one of the most spectacular performances I've seen and I hope she does come back stronger. I think she will. She'll be back in front of crowds, you know, performing sooner. What do you mean you hope? No, she will.

This is a goat. Hey, she started in 1993. The goat. Yeah, she is the goat. 1993. That's crazy. Long time. That's how long she's been doing this. And it's like. 1993. That's crazy. Long time.

That's how long she's been doing this. And it's like the reason why it's such a big deal, like over the last five years, maybe she'll miss a bowl, like once every six months. And maybe, maybe she did though. That's what I'm saying though. For like 15 years, 20 years, she batted a thousand. I have no idea how she was as consistent as she was in her music soon as her music's in the back oh yeah yeah exactly oh my gosh hey red panda I hope you felt the love from everybody whenever we

found out you were potentially injured nobody nobody likes that it's incredible it sucks it truly it reminded me of when Kobe Bryant tours Achilles it was one of those gut-wrenching moments and you kind of wonder is this it you, I know you guys are staying positive and I love red panda just like everybody else I just worry about Expectations going forward. I think we got to look at this like 2011 Lakers, okay, you know, hey still the Lakers still the lake show still have all those banners But after an Achilles tear something like this it affects people and you know again, it's her wrist, which is great It's not it. It's not an angel. That might be the best injury for red panthers. Exactly. Yeah, it's huge that she didn't you know

I mean I was initially thinking that but like she's tossing, you know She's got to be able to handle the bull still listen. I think she's gonna be just fine But I just want to make sure you know, she is a little bit older now I want to make sure she takes the rehab seriously we don't need her You know well she's she's on top of a unit side red pan does it you never know They don't think she's attention to detail driven. I do but we're sat in sheets You know we're talking about the maybe the greatest performer in the history of I mean has she's never had an injury like this You know it'd be very easy for her to wake up and be like listen up. I'm the goat like

Yeah, it's hurts a little bit today. I'm gonna take the day off. To be clear. If red panda wakes up looks in a mirror, which I think she should, and for a long time, she should be doing this says I'm the goat. I'm going to enjoy my life. Now my banners are hanging. I'd get it. No, the whole thing.

Yeah. I would congratulate the hell out of her. No doubt about it. That's, that's why I think me and Ty are worried about that rehab. Because we see quarterbacks all the time, hey, her shoulder, he'll be fine. OK, Derek Carr. What happened to Derek?

You put her in the same bucket as Derek Carr? Well, no. No, no. Well, no. But that's what happened. She broke her wrist in 2013. This has happened before. OK.

We are learning from our research. And that is huge news. But again, I think it goes back to more so 2013, 12 years ago. You know, that's like after Kobe wins his second title, is she going to try and go and win three in a row after she has 18 times? 2013 definitely closer to 2000 than 2015. Bingo. And she probably is the one that released that stack because I'm assuming she knows

everything about the future and that's how she catches those. What we're saying Red Panda is we love you. Love you. Love you. Love you. We love you Red Panda. Wolverine blood. Good luck out there. You got this.

She should call Tyrese. May they and Tatum. Tatum, Tyrese, Red Panda, all come and do and three of the ghosts. Let's pivot away from the great, I mean. I know it's almost hard. This is how it felt when Houdini died. I wasn't there. H didn't die. He did we don't know I guess I guess I think it happened in front of people but nonetheless joining us now is a British man and

We I think people call us idiots all the time As as you should after that conversation, but I think we try our best to get people that are actually knowledgeable of things to come on and explain it to us what we should care about. Now, I think we do ask pretty good questions to get to the bottom of it, but we do try to bring experts in. This guy's an expert, not only on England,

but on gambling, on events that are happening in England. Ladies and gentlemen, this man, big title, director of content at betting weekly over the pond over there. Game, bet, match. Ladies and gentlemen Nigel Seely. Thank you very much for that very very very warm welcome. Thank you very much. Long time no speak there. How you doing, mate? I'm great. And I forgot how great that accent is until this moment right now.

You sound spectacular. Let's get right into it here. Wimbledon's obviously happening. You have captivated not only your part of the world, but ours as well. ESPN broadcasting it all over the place. Next week, we're actually off because it's covering everything.

It feels like the early story of this entire tourney is that a lot of favorites are losing. Is that, this is kind of the set four out of the top nine and the men three out of the top nine in the women's. It feels like, is that more parody or is it just the big stage getting people Nigel? Well, there's a few reasons for it Pat, to be fair. The first thing is, is obviously that

when we look at the stats, 14 of the men's seeds have gone in round one. 32 seeds, 14 of them disappeared. In the women's draw, 12 seeds have gone out of 32 as well. So there's some big big names gone. Let me just put it into a context. If you went back through the last 10 years, and you had $10 on every single player in every single underdog in round one you would be losing $1,500 if you bet $10 on every single player in the last 10 years who was the underdog in first round last week this week and Monday and Tuesday you would have won $320 so this is the first time

ever by gambling on the underdogs you would have made money. So this is a strange strange strange period of time. There's a couple of reasons for that. The first thing I mean not by American standards but the weather in the UK has been extremely warm very very hot conditions and the players that come in in here and they're not they're under-restorating the weather. The heat here is a very very different kind of it's very like a New York heat it's very humid it's very very hot it's sticky it's extremely hot so the first two games the weather played a huge toll on it and a lot of

players come into this stage of the season when you would think they'd be fit you'd think they'd be really the bigger you'd play professional sports this kind of the mid season you think you'll be fit but a lot of tennis players are not fit at this thing they're playing an awful lot of tennis they have to play from a transition from a clay court in in Paris only a month ago to a grass court in Wimbledon which is very very different they then have to go straight away to America's played the hardcore season in the build up to the open and it puts a lot of pressure on them but the prize money for these players to come to Wimbledon is so

big that even if you come here and you're not fit and you can participate in round one you're still going to pick up a check for round one loser of $80,000 so you're gonna turn up you're gonna turn up if you're not fit you're gonna turn up you're gonna play if you feel good after set number two you're gonna compete and if you don't feel set it don't feel great you're're going to turn up if you're not fit, you're going to turn up, you're going to play. If you feel good after set number two, you're going to compete and if you don't feel set, you don't feel great, you're still going to pick up an 80,000 check by turning up. So the incentive for the players to turn up here and play is a big thing and the money gets them here. If it was any other tournament, they wouldn't play but for the prestige of women, the prize money of a major, they will all be here and they will all participate.

The other thing you've got to say, just one quick thing before we leave this side of it, is that the gulf between the guys in the top 20 and the top 100 isn't as big as it was years ago. The guys in the top 100, the guys in the top 80 can beat guys ranked 16, they can beat guys round 20. The problem with tennis from a competitive nature is that the top two in the men's game in particular are so far ahead of everyone. Sinner and Alcraz are just dominant and we think so much in sport where the domination of players has sort of made it not the most interesting thing to watch and after the year of Djokovic, Federer, Nadal,

we thought we might have an open era, but these two have come on and just played different levels. Their stats are as good as those great players, and they're so much better. So the guys below them, they're coming into this sort of not fit, they're underestimating the weather, and there is prize money at stake.

So, you know, if someone sits to me, I've got 80,000 check to turn up play one set I'll be there. Yeah in an American terms. I know you all are turning up while watching I believe a couple years ago you were in there with the first lady of Heineken. I believe her mama. Hi also the lady from Ted last year Hannah Wattingham Hannah Wattingham who gets biscuits every single morning by the way and that I think the Queen obviously Goes the Wimbledon. It's a big deal. You get $80,000 to lose in the first round. I just learned that you talked about Alcaraz and center there who's going to win this.

Is that who it's going to be because Joker right if he wins it he'd be the oldest guy to win Wimbledon ever or something like that and to be clear. We're watching that Super Duper Cup, which tone is going to ask you about here in a matter of moments after we get out through Wimbon. And was it a British team that had their players sitting in the locker room when it was 87 degrees? You guys are hilarious. I think that's hilarious. I just want to let you know that. That is a funny thing. Like in European standards, it's hot. It's like I think you guys deal with the cold a lot better because there's a lot of that weather. But like what you guys view is we're going through like 102. it was like 105 degrees here in Indiana, let alone South Florida. Yeah.

Louisiana, New York, it's like that is an interesting thing over there in Europe about the heat and how that kind of affects people. I think the thing is with England, the difference in America, I mean, I'm very fortunate to go to America many times. You have things called air conditioning. Air conditioning is country, we don't have air conditioning. Because the way the British person thinks is that we're gonna have one What's the point of investing in air conditioning? That's bloody mad isn't it? That's bloody fucking mad Last night was the worst night I've ever slept back to sleep on the couch downstairs

We've got no fan, no air conditioning and my wife said today should we go and buy an air conditioner? What's the point of that? We're not gonna use it for five years That's crazy. OK, I just learned a lot. Shout out to you guys. We kind of got an Amish group over here that kind of does the same. But you guys, obviously, internet and everything. Think about the air conditioner.

It's a great invention. It's awesome. It's a great invention. You guys should think about, OK, let's move forward now. Who's going to win this thing in the men and who's going to win it in the women? Well, I think if you look at the men's show Carlos Alcraz has been given a very, very favorable draw and everything is about the bracket in this tournament. You know, you've got an easy bracket.

Alcraz come through a really, really tough match against Fabio Fagnini in round one, but again, it takes time to transition from a clay court to a grass court. He's a slow starter traditionally. Last year when he won Wimbledon he got better as the tournament went on. You would expect a legend of the game or a player who's at the top of his game like Alcraz on a winning run to have a bad day at the office. That was all it was, a bad day at the office. He's playing a young British guy now, he's two sets of love up, he's going to beat him. This is a big stage for the young British guy, he's not going to compete. The jaw has opened up. I cannot see Carlos Alcraz not getting to the semi-finals. Well hopefully he'll play the American number one Taylor

Fritz who come through a bit of a tough match last night against Impecchi Perregarde the biggest server in the men's game on the flip side of that the other half of the draw the other bracket is very very tough you have Novak Djokovic in there you have Yannick Sinha in there you have the British number one Jack Draper who is a contender this week you know I'm not saying that because I'm a Brit but he is a contender so the draw has been favorable to Carlos Alcraz and I think that the draw will open up for him I believe that he will you know he's played a five-set match he's had his bad day I think he's gonna get better and better as the tournament goes

on John McEnroe famously said you want to just play your best tennis as you go through the tournament you have a bad day in the first week go on and go forward and I think Carlos Alcaz will be the man to beat. Three thumbs on the track Yannick Sinner will be his finalist I think I can't see anything other than the top two playing and I think they'll compete. On the women's side it's much more competitive you have literally about 20 players who can win the women's draw Irina Sabalenga is the number one seed, but she's been the beaten finalist in the last two majors in Australia and in France and Paris.

Coco Goff, the French Open champion, is gone. You have Von Drusseff, a former women's champion who's coming into some kind of form. But American women have won the two majors this year. Madison Keyes won in Australia. You had Coco Gough win in France and it's good for American women's tennis at the moment. And I've actually bet two American players actually to go quite deep at big prices. I think Madison Keys is probably the biggest serving women in the tournament.

Grass will suit her game. She has a quite a difficult bracket but the fact that she's won the Australian Open and she's won a major gives her a huge confidence going that she can compete and she can beat the best players. I think she's got a great chance and if you're looking for a dangerous outsider there's a hard-hitting American who's around about 20 in the world a girl called Amanda Aniston-Mover. Now she has had problems off the court with her mental health she's had issues with injuries but on her day she is a proven player she's coming to this tournament in great grass court form she's got a favorable draw and I think the two American girls will

give you a run for your money I'm fading the favorite Sabalenka I think I'm not quite sure I think she's I think she's more about her sort of lifestyle off the court rather than on the court but I think you want hungry players and at Wimbledon the last eight years eight different people have won it and there's always been a shock So it wouldn't surprise me to see a shock winner. Not like the men's the men's dominated by the favorites. I love you saying Little comfortable I think I think we're a little bit too comfortable at the top especially for Wimbledon with how hot it is everything You have to go through miss Amanda's I didn't hear the last name because your accent obviously so heavy I couldn't hear what you said. It's Anisimova. A-N-I-S-I-M-O-V-A. Amanda Simova. Anisimova, yes. One name, Anisimova. Anisimova? Yeah. Amanda Simova?

Amanda Anisimova. Amanda Anna Samova. That's a tough one with a British accent. I mean, Amanda Anna Samova. Okay, good luck Amanda. Good luck Madison Keys. Obviously, we're pulling for you to win this thing. Okay, let's pivot away from Wimbledon real quick. We have a British person on.

What should we ask about? Soccer. Tones question for you, Nigel. Yeah, Nigel, I was wanting to see if you had a favorite or a club that you like the most in the FIFA Club World Cup moving forward. Well I mean the first thing is I think the Brazilian teams have done exceptionally well in this tournament. I mean they've surprised everybody. They've got huge support, especially down in Miami, massive mass support, the conditions, you know we're talking about hot conditions. There's air conditioning there, so they want to make this difference here.

I think, I honestly think that Paris Saint-Germain will win it. They're the favourites. They're the best team in Europe. They're a very young side. They're getting better every round they play. They're the European champions. They dismantled Inter Milan in the final, plus 225. Chelsea would be a fave for me at $4.

I think the British teams or the English sides here I don't think they'll got they want to win it for the prize money But I also I think this cup competition is going to have huge ramifications when the season comes because I think a lot of these things are going to be spent so the angle for me was When they come back from here in the early parts of their regular season, I think they're a fade So but I think Paris and will justify favorite season Paris Benjamin will justify favorite man with just a five-favorite is when the tournament the one thing I heard Pat's play there is that the American team could win the World Cup when they're gonna do better than the two to draw against Costa Rica they gotta

do better than we won we beat Costa Rica we beat Costa Rica freeze by. If we would have had golden goal time, we would have won it. And then, instead they went straight to penalties because once again, we don't understand what's going on with the gold cup. Saudi Arabia is in it as well. I mean, there's a lot of conversations and we have a lot of questions. This guy stopped three out of six penalties, brother. We dominated in that thing. What are you talking about? This is our team. Punch, talk and shit. You went into penalties against Costa Rica The penalties it was good for soccer, of course you hate it, but just just you need to know this it's never coming home It's staying home when the World Cup is you very you very you very kindly sent me last summer was on you very kindly

It all your teams sent me a bottle of champagne and I said I'll drink it when it's coming home. I think you said that we're almost near 2050. I think it's more chance to be 87 having a glass of that before then. We are 9,131 days from the year 2050 and whenever that champagne ages, another one of those amount of days, it it's gonna be great. So good. It's gonna be great. Alright there is also another celebration anniversary coming around here at the end of the week and I know it's synonymous but happy 4th of July. You know that's a yeah I don't know. 259 years since we beat your ass Nigel.

So many friends of mine across the pond, I wish them all the very best. Have a great holiday for your family and friends. And thank you as always, I love coming on your show. Really appreciate you having me on. Have a great holiday lads. That's why America won. We love you bro. We love you Nigel.

We fucking love you. Alright we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen. Nigel see you later. Nigel! How many years? 259 baby, 260 next year. I mean that's a big one. That's a big one. Nigel, we fucking love you. All right, we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen. Nigel, see you later. Nigel! How many years? 259, maybe 260 next year.

I mean, that's a big one. That's a big anniversary. It's a long time. Gotta appreciate that. He had the US Open hat on too, he knows. Well, it's 4th of July, I mean. Yeah. What do they call us?

Colonies? Colonies? No, they call us something though. Some of the British people. Stinky yanks. Stupid yanks. Yeah. I mean, I've been called a stupid yank everywhere, yeah. call it is that no they call us something though some of the British people stinky yank yank yeah I've been caught a stupid yank everywhere yeah for sure there's something else I think they say I know is they're just gonna be saying to themselves on Friday like we let up we let a good one go get it again we lost a

good one yeah they throw a bunch of tea in Boston I think they should call us saviors twice okay I mean part of the conversation as well. They were with us though, you know, you gotta remember that What happened the last time England was in penalties by the way in a big international tournament I don't know Gumpi, can you tell us what England did? No idea. Grazie Italy That was the super duper euros or wasn't it? That was that's right. That was the super duper euros or wasn't it? That was yeah, that's right. That was the super duper euro tournament Oh, yeah euros. Yeah penalties. Yeah blue. That's what we do

You know England just gets as far as they can lose in the final. Yeah Well, I think I wonder if England knows this but Paunch and the boys are coming. Yeah. Yeah, they're bringing hell with them. Yes. We are like Nigel just He didn't even he didn't think about giving USA a chance. Yeah, he laughed. You beat Costa Rica, tied to Costa Rica, you're gonna have to bet on that. It's like, we beat Costa Rica. We gotta win.

So soccer guys, no respect, PK wins? Nah. Not against Costa Rica. Not against Costa Rica, but last time the English left at America, I think was 1776. And then what happened? You tell me.

And then what happened? Who won that, huh? A Nigel, you asshat. Can't understand that guy, man. No, it is hard to understand what he's saying. He's got chewing on rocks. I got no idea who's winning Wimbledon, because I didn't pick up one thing from that interview.

It's the favorites on the men's side, and maybe Madison Keys, and Amanda Anna Samova. Maybe. I don't't know that's what he said we can't come for I don't think anyone can confirm game set bad brother there was a game bet match what are you doing you're Canadian with ties to England you should not be talking that's betting weekly game bet match I misheard it that's on me no it's a game set man exactly oh like a tennis yes that's why we game said bad might be better he was talking about tennis there all right I got something better for him dental floss. It's real simple. Nick, Nick, we know that England doesn't have two things,

AC toothpaste and dental floss. I love England. I've been there multiple times. It is a great, it's beautiful place. Stayed on a golf course one time for our game in London. Then obviously stayed downtown whenever we had the WWE event over there. It's like, I've got a chance to enjoy all of England seemingly out in the land and then in there not all of it But you get it people are hilarious and I think Nigel would take that as a a sign of respect what you just said about them

Yeah, but people in England just need to stop using Freaking mustard for Listerine like you don't need to you don't need to do that That is not accurate depiction, I don't think How about um, how about the no air conditioning over there? That's a lot. That's crazy. Insane. And they have the window locks.

This is actually just one. Did you see? Also some of the buildings they have, have these locks on them so you can only open the windows like this much in your house. So it's just dead air in there. So it's so hot. There was back in the day they taxed some places. Like I know Ireland when I was over there. They got taxed on their window size

They had to pay for their windows. Yeah size So some of these places some of the buildings had like small little windows and then you think if they get a heat wave Through there. I mean that's just nightmare So I we appreciate you all over here No wonder they're sucking down so many ice-cold. Yeah, but it's not ice cold, remember? No, yeah, it's really actually lukewarm. But what they're sitting in, you know, might as well be the Arctic. Let's pivot away from England and let's go to an all pro bowler.

A man is making good business moves. I like what he's doing with his cue collar. And he's a guy who's entering the fourth year, which is technically the final year of his rookie contract, but they picked up his fifth year option as well for the New York Jets everything we thought he was gonna be coming out of college at Cincinnati he has certainly ended up being absolute stud superstar for the New York Jets ladies and gentlemen sauce Gardner what's up dude? What's going on how y'all doing? I appreciate y'all having me man. Thank you for joining us. We're big fans of yours

Obviously we followed your college career. You're an absolute dog And everything you've done with New York, obviously team success will hopefully come for you guys But the way you've played on the field as an individual has been sweet to watch Can we talk about this cue-caller because I love that you're making business moves first of all, you had a Buffalo Wild Wings deal I assume you've had other deals. This one feels like a brilliant move because it could be what the future is looking for in football.

You wore this and you felt different. Like what was your experience with it and why did you decide that you wanted to spread the word about this for more football players? So I remember I was at practice and I seen my teammate Braylon Allen, he was running out to practice. And I seen something on his neck and I'm like, yo, what's that? Because I like different, I like being different, you know. So I asked him about it, he told me about the science of it and things like that. So I got to doing my own research about it and I was able to see how it helps in terms

of head to head collisions and stuff like that. And you know, football can be a physical sport. It is a physical sport. And you know, the most important part of your body is your brain. So I was like, yo, I'm aware of tomorrow. And I had one on Amazon to order it to get to the facility the next day. And the Q-collar team ended up like bringing me one that same day. And like, I just ended up rocking with it and I just remember me being able to feel so confident in the

in the game and then after the games being able to like feel good after and I was like yo I'm gonna wear these every day at practice I'm gonna wear these I'm gonna wear this every day and every every game and then it just became a necessity for me and like you know my everyday routine in terms of practicing and especially in games. Are you gonna get one iced out or what? So they've been making different like sleeves for me and they did do like an iced out one. Not with actual like diamonds but it looks pretty it looks pretty iced out though you know what I'm saying so I might I might wear that week one. Not often do you add, hell yeah that's what I'm talking iced out though, you know what I'm saying? So I might wear that week one. Not often do you add, hell yeah, that's what I'm talking

about, not often are you able to add accessories to a look. That looked cool. I think we noticed it last year because it looked cool on people. Now, obviously you used to have the cowboy collar, used to have the little bit of a bump back there, but like that thing looked cool. And then as we learned about it,

we assumed it was bullshit, by the way, we assumed that it was absolute bullshit. And then I read from the QColor folks on the website and everything that they've had 25 different peer-reviewed scientific research testing done on this they're saying there is actual benefits to it and everything in the science is real good for you get involved and hopefully this is something that helps the next generation oh yeah I definitely think it's gonna help the next generation you know so that's why I'm excited to be partnered and you know

involved with the Q-Color brand you know so I'm looking forward to me wearing it and other people that's in the league right now wearing it and especially like you know I'm looking forward to like college players wearing it you know because I think it's very beneficial. Yeah especially I mean they're trying to the Guardian caps obviously in practice to take away the things It's like this would be a much easier thing to do a push seven on seven I mean you can feels like a lot of different places. Good luck with all of it Shout to see she knock a motor. Is that that's Bitcoin. That's Bitcoin on your Your chest your shirt

I don't know what this is Oh, um, I don't know what this is. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know what this is. My style is that guy that fucked me and he's there like this. I think it's Satoshi. It's like a popular brand, you know, everybody really wearing it, especially in like the fashion. Everybody.

It's at dips, too. It's at dips and it's really going going up going to the moon. That's awesome I thought you see the shirt that shirt is sweet. Let me go ahead and put that thing on you look awesome All right, let's talk about football a little bit here. Obviously. There's a new regime in New York What has been your early thoughts on AG is the head coach? Obviously he and Aaron had a quick conversation in and out. He has a vision for what he wants his team to be. What is your thoughts on coach Glenn and what are your thoughts on where the Jets are right now? Man, I'm impressed. You know, I've always heard a lot of great things

about him, you know, when he was in Detroit. So I'm like, yo, this is who I want to be the next head coach here. And obviously, I love defensive minded head coaches, but the thing that sets him apart is like he knows so much about offense as well, so much about special teams and him just as a person. He want to get the best out of you. Like when I asked him, Coach Wilkes, like what they want out of me, it's like they want me to have this standard that I already have and keep it there like week in and week out. And it's like, you know, that's perfection.

That's basically basically what they're telling me is they want me to be perfect. And that's what I want. I always want to be perfect. Even though it's no such thing as perfect people. I want to be perfect. And like, you know, that's what I need. You know, I've had a lot of early success in the league and you know, I never want to get complacent So, you know, mr

Johnson bringing the new regime in and that's gonna push me even more more than I don't know if nobody can push me more than I Push myself but but I'm gonna come in here and just like also push me and have this new standard that I haven't even reached Like for me, you know, it's just a blessing, for sure. Well, and having to feel like you have to re-prove yourself to people is always a good thing, too, for super competitive people like yourself. Like, that is, uh, you got a whole new audience now, and these people are your coaches. I think that can be reinvigorating. And you're still on your rookie contract, and you went into, last season, I think, is PFF's number one corner in the entire NFL.

I think on everybody's board, your top five corner in the entire league. I think on everybody's board your top five corner in the entire league no matter who is asked. And you're only going into year four so much more on the horizon especially with AG. D-Bud has a question for you. Yeah Pat just mentioned still in your rookie deal big fan of your game first and foremost. Number one what is this offseason been like preparing for this fourth year and it's a big contract year. I don't think you've made much noise about it but your draft mate got paid Stingley, Jr. He broke the bank Ramsey just got a bump sir tan got paid JC horn got paid like you're on deck So what's your thoughts going into this big contract year?

Man, I'm not gonna lie like this offseason has been like by far my best offseason I've been like I just left LA from training with my trainer Akil and I just feel great. I'm sitting about 200 pounds right now and I don't think I've ever really played that heavy. But it's like the more weight that I done put on, the more muscle, the more explosive and the faster I've become. But yeah, my team and the Jets, you know, they've been talking. And you know, we have like our goals in terms of like the contract and things like that.

You know, it's been pretty productive. But yeah, we have our goals in terms of like numbers and stuff like that. And you know, the Jets are aware of that. And I'm aware of like the rest of my peers like JC, Stingley, even Pat had get paid obviously before me but those are all guys that is well deserving of the money that they that they got so you know it's definitely something that my team and the Jets are

talking about. VaynerMedia too obviously we're big fans of the Vayner family. Excited to see, he might own the Jets someday, is Gary Thott, AJ obviously running Vayner Sports. Excited to see how that works out. You're a pillar player over there for the Jets, very quickly became the main brand for them. And the corner position is back to getting paid a lot of money at the top, which is where

you are. Yeah, and I would say the market isn't high enough yet compared to like pass rushers, wide receivers, et cetera. And kind of on that note, what's your thoughts about having or putting together some type of summit, you know, for us? We got Lane Johnson coming on and talking about the O-Line Summit, the SAC Summit,

they have that year in and year out. Tight end U has become a huge thing. I think you're, I wanna put you on the spot, but you're one of those guys, you know, going into four, you know, you get, you become an OG event in the league real quick. Hold on, hold on. You think DBs, I mean that many DBs in one place. Yeah, need it. Holy shit.

So much pain. The amount of shit being taught in that, in that weekend would be, we're talking historic. We're talking historic. Do we do need it, Sauce? Something to think about at least. I definitely been wanting to be a part of something like that. I know guys like Quandre Diggs, Darrius Slade,

they hit me up about it. I think even Richard Sherman didn't say something to me about it. I've always wanted to like do something like that because me personally, I'm not wanted to like do something like that because Me personally, I'm not gonna say Cornerback is the most needed position because obviously you need a quarterback like you need a pretty pretty good quarterback play Yeah, but I do think and I'm not being biased. I do think cornerback is the hardest position to play. So it's like Ain't nothing wrong with giving game to the other guys

around you. Like it's bigger than like the way I think it's bigger than just me. You know it's younger guys that come and I'm it's crazy that I'm saying this because like I'm still young you know I'm only a year four but like you know you got rookies that come in and you know they need some type of guidance you know as a person and you know how they need to be as a rookie, you know, so I've always been for that. I don't know why it hasn't got done yet. I'm not going to say it's my fault it hasn't got done. I'm going to blame it on Slay. It's his fault. So yeah, it's his fault, but I'm definitely for that, you know And I'm I definitely want that to happen as well. Where does that happen in that?

I know you're from Detroit South Florida is probably the good spot South Florida. LA is probably a good spot The figure I make we can't do LA. We can't do LA cuz it's a little it's a little far, you know we definitely can't do Detroit because You know, I'm not gonna say too much. But we can't do Detroit. We can't do Detroit at all. It sounds like you guys gotta figure it out. Okay, you and Darius Slate need to figure it out.

That would be an epic weekend. Okay, and you said you understand that there has to be good quarterback. Blake, speaking of that, good friend of yours coming right down to Pike. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, you'll be on the other sideline as Darius Slay week one but you also be on the other sideline as your friend Aaron Rodgers how do you feel about playing Raji in week one? Man it's gonna be crazy there's gonna be a lot of emotions in that game you know he's a he's a for now I don't care what

people say about him he's a phenomenal person like person. I remember when he first got to New York and we went to dinner and I just got to pick his brain in terms of stuff. Me as a football player, tendencies that I could give to make him know if I'm playing man or zone or what I'm doing and stuff like that. When we got on the field, it's just so much that he's taught me as a player. Me know, and me playing quarterback, I'm not thinking a quarterback can help me, you know? And I'm looking forward to it because it's like, he might think he know that, like he might think he know all the tendencies that I have.

But like this off season has really been like me trying not to give nothing away. Like I've been, I've been like trying to work on literally everything because I already know I'm about to go against a wizard week one you know I'm saying I already know it I already know what time it is and you know they got Slay, J Ram, John New Smith, DK like they they got some dogs over there so so Mike T, he definitely been cooking up. And you know, I'm looking forward to the challenge because I always like challenges,

but you know, I know it's going to be a good game. I know it's going to be a lot of smiles out there, but it's going to be a lot of competing out there at the same time. You trying to outwizard the wizard is a funny thing. Like, hey, Aaron, just want to let you know I've been working on a lot of new shit this off season. That's what you just said.

He's going to hear what you just said. Yeah, yeah, you let him know. Hey, you think you know everything? Yeah, right. This offseason, three new different twists and turns. That's hilarious to think about. That team though, Steelers, he's a diehard Steelers fan. They're going all in this year. First test, got Saw Skarner in the Jets. Excited to watch how it goes. Excited for season to get started, man. You two, I know, I don't know what offseason is like for you. I know you're in a, I think you're in a public relationship. Congratulations, we need to give you. I'm not gonna say that. You know, I prefer to keep, football is the main thing.

You know what I'm saying? So I wanna keep that the main thing. I don't wanna, I don't want it to come off like I'm just in this public relationship And I'm just because at the end of the day football is my main focus Yeah, you're allowed to do that though You know you're allowed to be fully focused on being the greatest football player you can be especially in New York Especially with the fifth year coming up on the other side. Have you enjoyed the offseason at all? What have you guys has it been all work?

What happened? Yeah, has it been all work? What have you done? It was a golf game. Yeah, it was a golf game. I mean everything. Nah, I'm not gonna lie, I haven't really even golfed this offseason for real. Oh, you gave it up. You quit the game? I'm not gonna say I quit, but I had to like, I had to take some time back to really like, to really know what's going on in my life, like, you know what I'm saying? So I had to drop golf for a little bit. I had to focus even more on training, even though training is always,

like I would golf after I got done training. There was never like sub and one in for the other, nothing like that. You know, just focused on training. I traveled a little bit. I went to like, what is it? I went to like Paris. Ooh, oui oui, bonjour.

Germany, I think Italy too. I was just going places. And yeah, it helped my mental to just be able to travel the world and just do stuff like that. Yeah, you worked your ass off, man. You worked your ass off to be able to experience that. You could have never fathomed, I said, well, I guess you probably did actually,

but just think of the story, Detroit all the way to hanging out in Italy, having some pasta, enjoying your life, working your ass off for all of it. You should be incredibly proud. Let's get back to you in football, in the way you go about doing your business. Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, so I was maybe trying Ireland, also a great place over there. Yeah, gonna be boozing though. You're gonna have to, it was the locals. It's gonna be a lot of getting I being sucked down for sure What is your film study kind of process? Like what are you looking for when it comes to getting ready for teams? Obviously with Aaron week one It'll be a little different because you're familiar with him

But what is that process like and have you been able to watch film? You know with Aaron Glenn and has he been able to give you some more tricks of the trade per se? Oh, yeah Definitely, you know, he always found ways to help me. That's why I appreciate him so much in terms of watching watching like the Steelers or like somebody like Aaron I Can't really study it. I can't really study Aaron for real because He is show you the same exact tendency and do something totally different. So in terms of the Steelers I would preferably study their OC, study the receivers, just study the tight ends and stuff like that because you can't really get a beat on Aaron like

that and that goes all the way back to when we played the Packers. Like you gotta be disciplined. If you're not disciplined playing against them then it's not gonna work if you're the middle field safety and Aaron look to the left side and you go running to the left side it's not gonna work you know what I'm saying it's just it's just little things like that like you have to be disciplined when you're playing against Aaron and it's not just Aaron but Aaron is like I feel like he's the best when it comes to making you think one thing and doing something totally different.

You know, so I always, I put hours in when it comes to watch and take, you know, I always put hours in and just, you know, make sure I'm learning something new every, every session. I love that. Attention to detail. Aaron also will use up every second of that play clock, as you know, he's just waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. You didn't show anything. God damn it.

These timeouts at one second or half a second on the play clock, legendary. But the amount of information he's trying to get, I appreciate and respect the fact that you've been a teammate of his. And I assume he's given you some of this game at dinners and stuff. It's like, let's not worry about Eric. Okay. Let's, let's worry about our own shit. I do miss him though.

I do miss him. So I appreciate y'all for bringing him up. I do miss him, I can't lie. He misses you too. I miss his presence. You know what I'm saying? I miss his presence. But you know, we got a new dog.

We got a new dog in town. You know, we got Justin Fields, you know. He a dog. What are your thoughts on him? Big investment by the Jets in him to be your next quarterback. We obviously saw him with the Pittsburgh Steelers. We saw highlights from whenever he was with the Chicago Bears. What has it been like with him as the starting quarterback of the Jets?

Man, it's been great, like him being younger as well, like me being able to say certain things and him being able to say certain things about each of our games, you know? And I could just tell he's been locked in in terms of tape, like, in terms of the playbook, in terms of everything, like he getting there early, you know what I'm saying? He getting to the facility early,

being one of the last people to leave, like, he really been dialed in, like, trying to make those type of throws, like, he made a few throws and um in ota's that i'm like yo i did not know he was capable of making this throw because it's something it's only it's only a certain a certain amount of quarterbacks that can make i'm talking about his throws on like erin's type of level like when it comes to like being able to squeeze those throws in there i always thought er Aaron was like the best when

it came to that. And it's like, Justin had made a few throws where I'm like, okay, he really been in the lab for, I could just tell. And he's always been a talented athlete. He's always been a talented quarterback. I just remember having to go against him and us changing the whole game plan. I remember we had to play the Steelers and We didn't know if Justin was going to play or not and who was going to be the starter

We had to change We had to change the whole game plan for Justin Just for him to not even play that game just for us to be the starter so then we went back to the other game plan like the night before or something like that, so You know, I don't know what disrespect he received, but you know, in terms of the players and the teams, I feel like they always give him his respect that's needed, you know?

Yeah, hell yeah. And he's faster than everybody on the field whenever he's running on the field. Seemingly he looks that way at least. And the Jets made a big investment. I mean, 20 million a year. I'm excited to watch them. I'm excited to see what they do with them And if you guys are a power team power power with him and he's talking about in the lab throwing it

Look out maybe that wide receiver goes ape shit this year. Go ahead Ty. Yeah speaking of that wide receiver sauce How beneficial has it been to be able to go up against a guy like Garrett Wilson every day practice? Obviously both you guys super young but already some of the best at your position in the NFL. What have you guys done to kind of push each other every single day and kind of get to that next step in your careers? Man, just picking each other's brain. Garrett asked me, yo, what you see for me with this?

How do you know I was gonna do this? And me being like, yo, how did you know I was playing this instead of this? Like, stuff like that, receiving that type of information is only going to make us better. And that's things that don't really require talent. You know, the talent is different. Like, the talent is there when it comes to Garrett. He like a human joystick.

He, at the top of his routes and even at his releases, like, it's like he playing basketball out there. You know, when you're going against the guys like that, you know, it makes it a little he playing basketball out there you know when you going against the guys like that you know it makes it a little harder to guard them you know and me being able to go up against him when I go out there and play other guys that are a little bit stiffer than him it just makes it much more easier and you know not even just for Gary you know we got a lot of other guys out there you know like Josh Reynolds Josh Reynolds he had a pretty good like camp, you know, he just been doing his thing as well.

Xavier Gibson, it's a lot of like younger guys out there that's been really, you know, making a name for themselves even more, you know, like got a couple of rookies out there that's been balling, you know, so I'm excited, man. I'm excited for our offense. I'm excited for our defense and our special attention. All right. Well, good luck this year. We can't wait to watch. Shout to the Q-caller, hopefully taking care of people.

Shout to Satoshi Nakamoto too. His legacy will live on for a long time into the future. And are we growing, hey, what are we doing with hair? Are you growing out? I actually just got it clipped a little bit. It was getting a little too long and I never want to be a guy that has to get braids. I don't think I would look good with braids. So, you know, for my shorty, I feel like,

I feel like this really did look. You know what I'm saying? I feel like this really did look. You know, I did have thoughts, I had thoughts before getting like a little, probably a little mullet,, you know a little while ago This was a while ago though, you know what I'm saying, but now it's like, you know, I think I'm pretty I think I'm pretty good With this look right here. You know, I think it looks good. I think it's a good look

I think a mole would look better. Yeah, well, it would be fucking awesome Yeah, what's that? I'm gonna see grok make make sauce with a mullet Yeah, you can get it. You can see what this would look like. Grock would create all these things. Can you make sauce, Gardner, with a mullet? It might give you like a Connor mullet. Yeah, which also would work for you, I think. Something to think about. You look awesome. Thanks, man. Hey, no problem. Good luck on everything. Obviously, contracts, huge thing that you've worked your entire life for.

That's on its way. You keep kicking ass on the field and in life, we'll just follow along and enjoy it all. You're the man, Sauce. Appreciate y'all, man. Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, Sauce Garbin. Yeah, Sauce. I don't know. We got Groc's first take on it.

I don't know if it's... I don't think you should do this. That's pretty good. Sauce, I don't think you should do that, Sauce. I don't think you should do that, Sauce. I don't think that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

Shout out to Grog though for letting me see what he was doing with my friends. Yeah, shout out to Grog. All right, we'll see you, dude. Appreciate you, Sauce. All right. That looks good. As this hour wraps up, we will obviously prepare for the next. Next hour, awesome.

Lane Johnson, 115. They have the O-Line Mastermind Summit. Maybe a DB one hour. Awesome. Lane Johnson 115. They have the O-Line Mastermind Summit. Maybe a DB one comes up soon. We'll make it happen. And we've heard from Sauce, that is 100% Gary Slay's fault that it hasn't taken place yet.

And then Bill Zito, General Manager of the Panthers, will join us at the end of the hour. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change their life. We'll see you on the other side. In 1979, the first words spoken on ESPN weren't just an announcement. If you're a fan, they were a sports prophecy. What you'll see in the next minutes, hours and days to follow.

Glad you're with us tonight. May convince you, you've gone to sports heaven. And right now, you're standing on the edge of tomorrow. This fall, the next era of ESPN begins. Sports forever. Sports are awesome. We're lucky to talk about them every single day. Shout out to Sauce Gardner joining us in the first hour. Andel Sealy a British lad who covers betting with betting weekly game bet match to talk about Wimbledon and everything's going on a couple American women names to look out for at Wimbledon as we go forward Madison Keys okay dog okay in the women's bracket if we listen

to Nigel who's a Brit who follows tennis and bets on tennis religiously and has been at these Wimbledon games in matches and everything like that He says about 20 women could win the women's side of Wimbledon about two dudes can win the men's side of Wimbledon so the women I guess are far more competitive also when it comes to betting you probably get some Over on the women's side even though there are a lot of the favorites have lost this year in the men's as well and then Amanda Anna some Simova Amanda Anna Simova is an American who it went healthy great so there's a chance with America wins yet again Cocoa Golf won France we also had an American win the other major that took

place on a women's side Madison Keys Madison Keys okay she's already won it in Australia I believe so we won an Australia major, and then we won in France with Cocoa Golf. Now Wimbledon, there's a chance Amanda Anzanova gives the American sweep in women's tennis. Which is certainly something we should celebrate on this 4th of July. Huge. Hell yeah.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is Amanda's college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, and a Ryder Cup winner, AJ Hawker. Hey. Hawker, it's hard to understand that British accent, I will say. We're speaking the same language, but are we? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, we are, but yeah, I agree with you. When you had to follow up saying not really sure what name you were saying there.

But the crazy thing, Nigel's saying that people are turning up not fit to Wimbledon. Like, this is like, this is the event. This is what we do. Have you, have you seen how these, once again your beautiful place a lot of history Seems like you guys got a lot going on over there right now Let's figure that out, but also feels like a beautiful place lucky that family comes from there. Yada. Yada You know, we know the history over there The way we've seen them handle

heat I The way we've seen them handle heat, I think is not good for their brand as a whole. Just, if we're just speaking from a sports standpoint, we're not talking about, maybe even humans as a whole over there. Them saying what's hot, like 87 degrees, they're talking about like, oh. Which is crazy though,

because they don't use air conditioning like we do. Like they live in that stuff too. Like they're in buildings with barely any Air conditioning is blazing. It's just uncomfortable and terrible. So stupid. Yeah, I don't understand. I don't know how There was a tweet also you can play any sport when I I'm sorry I don't want to go on a rant or here But when you talk about not being able to play games like two years from now in certain sports that don't wear pads Like football players practice in Miami

and do two and three days in full pads, year after year, day after day after day and stuff. I don't understand why. I don't get that. What you're referring to is a tweet that we saw in our group text that maybe people watching have no idea. I have no idea.

This just got sent in three minutes ago. AJ saw this, I need to get this off my chest. The World Cup, there's between that the World Cup is gonna be too hot over here. Like two years from now, how do we know two years from now or a year from now that it's gonna be too hot on that day? So we're gonna move it to a 9 a.m. kickoff. With that being said, India, we do rest in peace.

Thank you, Darius, nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. We need D'Nardo to give us the Doppler read on what it's going to be in the World Cup. But yes, some of these temperatures are like 78 degrees. It's like, it's too hot. Just played a World Cup in Qatar. Yeah, it was 180. Like, give it a rest, dude. I'm tired of it.

Juventus had 10 guys that wanted to get subbed off. Pack your shit. Real Madrid took you home. Like, get out. Okay, now that's a Canadian man right there. So he is used to colder temperatures as well. I guess Europe just doesn't experience this much like he does though it gets 97 in Germany right there it's been hot look Tony brought it up already he's not ever done it over there yeah I don't think I know exactly your temperature I've been to Barcelona and it was super hot sun was I got a sunburn in March in London, right?

Wasn't that? Scotland, Scotland even more so. So what's the deal? They just got super duper arenas. Every arena they play in has the incredible outdoor. I mean, yeah, Tony already brought it up. Two of the most pivotal moments in history, who'd they call on? Usually people need help.

In this situation, it feels as though they're looking for someone to go over there and fix all their problems with the heat I mean god bless America. Okay, that's not that way. Happy birthday America and everything like that We love Europe, but this whole heat thing that you guys are doing. It's like we get it It's hot but like we're doing the sport like we're playing We've been playing these sports for hundreds of years thousand sometimes I do love AJ's first thought is so you taught me three days in football pads down south Miami South Florida you got like fifth graders doing that so not anymore I don't think not three days but they're out there in full

pads going for two hours like it's not easy full pads going for two hours like it's not easy. Uh, yes, we would like to do that. Okay. We're going to Europe. We're pivoting away from Europe. And we're going to basketball. Nice. Okay. Hold. Wait, what do you think this news is? What do you think breaking news is?

You said basketball? Yeah. I was, what I thought it was, was Jim Cantorey coming on and talking weather. Okay. So we, okay. If it's- That might be it. Yeah, that'd be sick. If it's basketball, just give him everything.

It's not going to be Giannis, I don't think. I'm going to go Malik Beasley. Okay. LeBron. Okay. LeBron going to the Pacers. That'd be sick. Holy shit. Is that about to happen? Oh no it did. AJ uh AJ what is your... LeBron to the Cavs. LeBron to the Cavs again. Okay I like that that's a guy from Ohio.

This is a guy who lives half his life in Indiana. Let's get the ladies and gentlemen joining us now is senior NBA insider for ESPN and Sean Charania Sean's what Zeta yeah we have news we have news the New York Knicks are expected to land on two-time NBA head coach Mike Brown as a franchise's next head coach and so the Knicks are set to hire Mike Brown. He's won two NBA Coach of the Year awards. He's a four time champion as an assistant. I'm literally breaking this while I am on with you right now. And so Leon Rose, Knicks president, we know he interviewed a handful of candidates.

Taylor Jenkins was in play as well. Micah Norrie, the Minnesota Terminals assistant, Grizzlies assistant in play. So we have just tapped in here with you guys to announce Mike Brown is expected to be the next Knicks head coach. He's a four-time champion. He's interviewed. He's also coached a ton of star players throughout his entire NBA coaching career. Congrats to the Knicks and to Mike Brown obviously the Knicks have gone through a draft and free agency and everything without a coach uh that is obviously a storyline that people have been dunking on the Knicks for you guys make it to the Eastern Conference Finals you have your best year you've had in a long time you decide to fire your coach and seemingly

have no plan on the other side of it there's a lot of names that were getting thrown out there there was some time that took place bringing in a champion and a guy that has had to lead a program before I think is probably a good decision I don't know how Knicks fans will react to this let's go to the back Bruce Bryan, Mike Bryan now head coach of the New York Knicks. How do you think New York faithful will feel about this? Let's go. I'm fired up.

I mean, a two-time coach of the year coming in. I think his reputation might be a little bit down after the ending in Sacramento. But from my perspective, Thibodeau came in with a bit of a damaged reputation. And he brought us to to Eastern Conference Finals and built us into a perennial contender moving forward. Love the positivity, Shams, you can do your tweet.

I saw you trying to do that while you're talking to us. We appreciate you. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you, Shams. That was incredible work out of you. The Knicks get a seasoned coach and no name. I think that's a big deal whenever you're going to New York. Yeah, for sure.

For immediate respect when he walks into that locker room. And I don't know if you remember the video of Mike Brown. I believe he was the head coach to Sacramento Kings at running in practice Yeah, you know, he's gonna get in the trenches in between the lines with the guys He's over on sprints much like MC DC out there, but he brings it attitude I know a defensive minded coach once again, just like Tibbs was but it's all it's gonna be about how they buy into him and How the Stars, you know, play with him. Starting with Jalen Brunson up there, big body Brunson, Brunson-Byrne,

or whatever we wanna call him. It always starts with your star players and keeping that. But Mike Brown, he brings that attitude and he has that instant credibility. So this is good for Mike Brown landing on his feet. Good for the Knicks just having a coach, AJ. That was getting a little bit ridiculous. It felt like just as somebody that is not an NBA insider or NBA coverer, it was like the team in the biggest market in the Mecca

with such a storied franchise has been not good for too long, you know? And then they get into the storyline. We happen to be a part of it with the Indiana Pacers and it's like Ben Stillers out here, Timothy Chalamet's out here, Spikes out here, like it's good for all sports whenever the New York teams are good and then we see what happens they get good and then they fire the coach it's like what are you guys doing man and then from outside looking in they got no plan like we're gonna send we're just gonna ask every team if we can fucking treat them like a mid-major we're gonna hire their coach like that is hey what's going on congratulations to your coach the New York Knicks would now like to

interview them to be our head coach and like what six teams are like no that is not how this is gonna go so they obviously got mocked and ridiculed it's like they finally get a head coach seems like that team is gonna be good regardless and maybe a new voice in there is the thing that takes him over the hump maybe it's Mike Brown. Well, and like the way it ended in Sacramento to Bruce's point, completely valid, sure. But they also completely blew up that team. And if there was a franchise that hasn't won in a while that actually did turn around,

it's Sacramento. I don't think Sacramento's ever been good in my life except for when Mike Brown was there and you can go back to baby and Vlade and those boys too, but that was a white shirt. That was a long time ago. And so for him, I think they were the three seed two or three years ago in the West. Yeah, and we've talked about how good the West is. So he's had success in the West. I feel like this is great for the Knicks. It is just kind of your point. You know, he's had no say in any of the free agents or draft picks that they just did. So who knows if that means

anything, but I assume he'll just there's some agreement like, hey, you know, your style works here, stick to your style. And let's go back to the Eastern Conference finals. I'd be I mean, I'd be pumped. At least you got a dude who's proven it's not, you know, first, you got no idea what's happening. I think it's a big market. Obviously, anytime you coach anything in New York, Mike will be ready for that AJ. He's no stranger to any of it. No, he gets it, but also it's a great spot for Mike Brown.

Usually when you get hired as a head coach, the team's garbage and it's like a rebuild where they're just terrible. So no, we know the Knicks have a deep playoff run, fire their coach unexpectedly in my eyes. So yeah, for Mike Brown, great situation. Hope we can go in there and win. That Knicks, if Jalen Brunson just going to make every shot that he takes,

I mean, they're going to be good for a long time. You know, just watching them play, that was a cool moment. We need to go to more games, because whenever you see these games live, there's a lot different conversation you want to have. Like, for instance, everybody is so tall. Kevin DeNoyant. They all play so hard, too. It feels like they play very, very hard. And everybody is so tall. Kevin Durant. And they all play so hard too. It feels like they play very, very hard.

And they run so much. It's just gassers and gassers. Like nobody talks about NBA guys, cardio. The cardio is never talked about. It's always like the travel, the sleep schedule, the body rest. It's like, they gotta be cardiovascularly fit. And they're very, very, very big.

They are all very large. Kevin Durant, LeBron and Steve Nash had a great Mind the Game podcast. So many clips coming out of that and they talked about how if you're six foot six one Kevin Durant basically was like I don't know anymore like TJ McConnell's been able to make it because he's just absolute dirt dog out there on the offensive and defensive side. There was a couple other guys he mentioned that can make it. He said but with how tall everybody's getting right now, we just call you out basically.

He said on the defensive side, we will just, we're gonna attack the six foot tall guy and we're gonna play over their head until they stop it. And then we kind of move on. That is watching the Knicks. Jalen, obviously another one of those guys undersized, but obviously an absolute dog. It's like so big, run so much, and they seemingly made every shot now the Pacers better. Obviously we won that series

No big deal In your garden Mike that in your garden over there, but it's like that Nick seems real deal Yeah, Mike might be able to get him all that'll be the biggest thing for him is some ball movement because Jalen Brunson is a dominant. He's kind of an offensive savant when it comes to one on one and it's more impressive because of how small he is and the type of big guys that he's doing it against. But you need that type of ball movement and where Mike Brown won a bunch of those championships out in Golden State, that's what they do better than probably anybody.

Steph is obviously, he has the handles, he does that, but Steph running through picks and just running around. So being able to have that ball movement. And then obviously at some point your superstar got to have court cleared out, make a big time shot, but ball movement, defense, and hopefully Mike Brown, like AJ said, you're walking into a pretty good situation with good players on the roster already. And hopefully you get that support to go out there

and actually win in the, you know, what they call the Mecca of basketball. Yeah, Madison Square Garden was electrifying to run that playoffs series, let alone all the time. Mike Brown might be the one to lead them in the, you know, what they call the Mecca of basketball. Yeah, Madison Square Garden was electrifying to run that playoff series, let alone all the time. Mike Brown might be the one to lead them all the way. Maybe. Yeah.

Still got Dolan running. We'll see what happens. What an East. There's no Tatum. There's no Halliburton. Obviously, there's going to be good teams. Yeah, there's a few. We'll see. West is still the West.

But to your point about, you know, kind of the size thing, it's like if you go back to Isaiah Thomas like Isaiah Thomas was you know five nine five ten and but and he could score 30 points a game But every single time when he was on the Celtics the other team would come down and it would be okay Let's move the ball who's Isaiah Thomas on go Every single marked that's tough spot to be. Especially if you literally cannot defend it. Yeah. Yeah.

Did Steph, Steph too? Yeah, Steph. Steph 6-4. Kyrie, you know? Like, Trey Young is a perfect example. Trey Young, you know, probably 6'1", 6'2", and he can shoot it from 40 feet, so he's a super max player, but that's the only reason a super max player on defense, they, you know, it's just not the same

I would highly recommend listening to LeBron James Kevin Durant and Steve Nash talk while they're boozing Yeah, that was good great conversation all the clips that I've seen have been incredible conversation And it's like I appreciate the fact that KD is not scared to like Talk. Yeah, you know or tweet like we're talking or tweet I mean, he's talking shit at some guy named Drew's got 25 followers. I mean it had to get it had to be done had to be done It's that's a great show. I appreciate who is coming in there having some wine and open it up and talking It's like I know that the sports journalists Don't love

Athletes getting into the media world as much as we have and everything like that But like getting a chance to learn from the greats about why they're great and how they're great and like the way they view it. I feel like that's a little bit of journalism in the sports world as well. That's a pretty good piece of information to have. And LeBron is gonna get things out of Kevin Durant

and Steve Nash is gonna get things out of Kevin Durant and ask questions that only motherfuckers at that level can really understand. It's great time right now of information that we're in. Yeah. One of the things LeBron talked about with KD was efficiency and like how, you know, KD has shot over 50% from the field since 2012 or something absurd of that nature. And then he went into like the examples where after a game, you know, he'll look in like sometimes he'll be six of 18 or nine of 23.

And you know, seeing how LeBron thinks about efficiency as being one of the most important things when normally you go to the box score. Oh, you know, SJ has got 40 points and I'm not saying SJ would do this, but SJ has got 40 points, but he's, you know, 10 to 25. And I feel like as a, you know, not a professional basketball player, you see 40 points. That's awesome. Even if they are 10 to 25, whatever. But the way they view it is 15 wasted possessions.

Exactly. Like LeBron thinking of it more as, yeah, well, I missed 12 shots. I made six shots. The fact that KD has for, I don't know, 13 straight years or 11 straight years, whatever it is with the Achilles, has been nine to 18 or better. Damn near every single game. It's just outrageous.

And I've told the story numerous times because I think it's a good piece of information to have about Kevin Durant. Whenever you think about Kevin Durant, however you think about Kevin Durant. At Texas, he donated a shit ton of money back to the university they played. They built a practice facility.

Obviously he goes in there and works. There's been the same equipment manager, I guess since he was playing there, is still there. Guy's been around and he said Kevin Durant has these workouts where he will restart the entire shooting. We're talking like thousands of shots at this point. He'll restart if the swish isn't the right sound.

Lights are off. If it's not the right swish sound, he's restarting. It's like, you're talking about an absolute dog when it comes to work ethic We talk about competitive juice and stamina It's like and I also love the fact he's not scared to get a little Twitter finger in there But once a while joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a two-time two-time Super Bowl champion He's also an all-pro

He's been named like all all century teams, all decade teams because of how damn good he is. And the refs are trying to catch whether or not he's leaving a little early or if he's right on time. In his eyes, he's right on time. And he's going to be telling other offensive linemen they need to be right on time as well at the 8th annual O-Line Mastermind Summit happening July 10th through the 11th down in Frisco, Texas alongside Duke

Mannyweather. Ladies and gentlemen, Lane Johnson. Yeah, how you doing dude? Doing good man. Just got done with the workout but ready to get online and get these fingers working about the the false starts that all the flags I should have got. Yeah, you're gonna get your Kevin Durant on. Yeah, go ahead and answer a little bit. I love that. That became a full talking point. Obviously you knew that.

I think we've chatted about it a little bit and they're zooming in on your big, I don't want to say your massive cleat. And that's the blur. It's a blur every single time. And they're like, is he early or is it on time? Right on time every time. Lane, let's talk about this O-Line Mastermind Summit

that you've been doing. Eight years now of big boys talking about moving other men down there in Texas. What is expected from this weekend and how excited do you get to share your game with others and maybe younger offense alignment? Super excited. So when we started this, we had around 27 people.

Last year was around 300, but it started, I remember, you know, going through the draft, didn't know much about the position or who was really good at it. So it was just a way for to get everybody in the room. You know, a lot of college double guys are in now to just learn ball. We have Joe Thomas coming in. So, you know, I think I learned a lot about getting off the ball from him, Jason Peters. So, it's just, it's turned into a lot of fun, but a lot of Hall of Famers and

yeah, man, two days of just learning the game a little bit better. So much beer, go ahead AJ. So are you guys- So much beer, I couldn't even, sorry, I don't wanna cut you off. I couldn't even fathom an O-line summit, the amount of beer. Go ahead AJ, sorry. Well, yeah, I would assume you guys might have a beer sponsor. I know tight end you has a beer sponsor.

I don't know if you guys have that yet or not Lane. If not, you guys can work on it. But other than film and like meeting and watching stuff and trying to explain things, how much stuff are you doing on the field and how much work can you get in? Because I instantly think of these like high school camps. I don't know if you've seen these clips where they're doing O line, D line one on one and D linemen are bull rushing dudes with no pads on and I would lose my mind. I can't imagine how you feel watching that.

Are you guys doing that? Are you guys getting any one on ones in out there? Man, it's fun to watch. But yeah, I mean, what we do, we watch a lot of film, break that down, and then we'll have breakout sessions. So what we're going on the field and a lot of what we're talking about is about pre-snap alignment. What type of pass set are we trying to achieve here?

If it's a run play inside zone, outside zone, mostly just footwork. So a little bit of physical stuff, but a lot of it's just talking through kind of what we broke down in the film session. footwork so a little bit of physical stuff but a lot of it's just talking through kind of what we broke down in the film session and then a lot of it's just kind of about structure and routine, you know how guys went about their week and stuff that they worked on so it's really cool to see just different guys you know different decades and kind of how they approach the game. Learning at just a schedule from somebody that's done it and at a high level and Mount Rushmore like level is such a great piece of information to have as a young

player. Like how you can view it and what has been tried and true. What has worked for somebody else while you kind of script it for yourself. You know there's a Hall of Fame game this month. The NFL seasons right around the corner. D-Bud has a question for you Lane. Yeah you had a short offseason you know, been that you went and won that Super Bowl championship going to year 13, I believe. How does the body feel and what has changed with your preparation going into these seasons from the time you came into the league up until now? Yeah, so me, I mean, it's about maintaining strength, but really, you know,

not neglecting mobility. You know, as you see players age, they'll lose kind of their elasticity, their ability to generate force. So for me, I'm lifting heavy earlier in the week, later in the week, it's kind of light a way for speed and then the plyometrics and all that good stuff. So man, it's just, I think just being consistent with it. And really like after every season you evaluate kind of where your body is and what you need to work on.

So every year is different but I'm feeling good. I mean, I made a statement I feel better now kind of in my mid 30s than what I did. When I was 30, I was going through an ankle issue, so surgery. So it takes a little bit to bounce back from that. 13 years in at offensive line, especially with the runs that you guys have had while you played football. Congratulations, dude. You big fuck. Yeah, legit. That is an outrageous feat. The amount of attention that you have to spend on your body to make it and continue to be able to operate.

Your joints are screaming for help every single time you do everything. Now, Ty has a question for you lane. Yeah lane I don't know how much you guys paid attention to it in like the locker room last year But we talked about it all year long about how you know No matter what you guys were doing early in the season and even at the midway point Coach Sirianni was getting kind of shit on on you know, every network pretty much Hey, this guy is one of the worst coaches in the NFL. He's just in a great situation The Eagles win in spite of him, etc, etc Hey, this guy is one of the worst coaches in the NFL. He's just in a great situation. The Eagles win in spite of him, et cetera, et cetera.

They always said, you know, when it came to the playoffs, like he was going to be the reason that you guys ultimately lost. And then obviously fast forward, you win the Super Bowl. What kind of vindication did you notice like from him? Obviously, we saw him post game and he was just elated. He was incredible telling guys, hey, let's run it back and all that kind of stuff. But what was kind of that whole situation like throughout the season and then obviously as you win the Super Bowl?

Yeah, I mean, when he's got emotional on the sidelines or screaming at guys, the good thing about it is we go and talk about it the next team meeting after a game. But I think for him, he's evolved as a head coach. He's kind of learning as he goes. But what I do enjoy about coaches that everybody's held accountable, whether it goes to the film room, if it's a bad play by the player, if it's a bad call by the coach, their name or number is up there.

And then just anything that goes kind of out to the public, we address as a team. So some of those hard conversations that are difficult to have, we have them. And we put it behind us. And really, I think it's probably one of coach's best traits, is he's a great communicator. Feels like you all rally around him. On the offensive side, first time, long time, I think you guys chose

150 more rushing plays than you did passing plays on the entire season, I think was the number. It's like first time, long time that had been the case in the NFL and especially a team that'll go on to win the Super Bowl, but you paid wide receivers. So whenever you talk about becoming a run first, run dominant team with Saquon, who's outrageous, I can't wait to ask you about him. But also you've paid wide receivers. There's a natural potential very big situation that could occur because the wide receivers understand that for the team this is what's good. But my job is to catch balls and that's my legacy and that's how much money I'm

gonna get paid and that's how I'm remembered. And then whenever you guys win, AJ Brown, Devontae Smith were the ones that dumped the Gatorade on Sirianni. It's like he had to manage that, I would assume, just in of itself, let alone everything else. Let's talk about the run game. So Saquon is just outrageous. Yeah. Like you guys-

Yeah, no, it's just- Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, what you're talking about, there's just a lot of avenues. We have so many star players. And if we wanted to throw the ball 60 times a game, our receivers could have 2,000 yards. But we have a running back that can get that on the ground. So I just think what Saquon was able to bring to our offense made everything so

much easier when you have a running back that can do that, it sets up play action. And when they wanna stop the run, you're gonna have to play one-on-one with AJ and Devontae outside so You know first thing I noticed about Saekom is just he's a super super good dude. So he made friends really quickly He's uh, I don't think he misses a day on the golf course. So if he's not he's not in the facility. He's golfing with somebody So yeah, that's his other passion. But yeah, I mean it took me me about three minutes in the green bag game to go up. This is going to be pretty fun here. Yeah, it was, it was something, you know, never thought he'd be on my team. You know, he is now. So let's make the most of it. So

it's been a lot of fun. Yeah. Might've taken you three minutes. I think he, it might've taken him about 10 seconds to realize, Oh, this is going to be great over here. As opposed to what I got going on with your offensive line. I think if it was just yards before contact that he rushed for this year, he would have been like a top 10 rusher in the NFL as well. He was not touched for a long time with your guys' help in scheme and everything. And with his speed, he was able to just break everything. The amount of home run touchdowns that he had this year, historic record breaking. He was explosive on the ground. A team hasn't been like that, I don't know, maybe ever.

I mean, maybe Y2J when Tennessee Titans had, but it was- Chris Johnson. Yeah. You know, I think what made our own line different was, man, I'm a pretty big dude and I was the second smallest. So it goes from Cam, me, and then it was, you know, McKay, Landon and Jordan Malata, I guess, you know,

whoever was eating the most that week weighed the most but they're all 360 70 80 plus so it's just You know, you don't have those kind of guys that come around that often. So We just try to stay out of the way and don't get hurt Yeah, stay out of the way don't get hurt and move bodies in record-breaking fashion on that note Connor has a question for you Yeah, lay another guy that doesn't come around too often is a coach like Jeff Stoutland. Can you talk about him a little bit?

Because it feels like he is kind of turning into a legend. Everything Jason Kelsey mentioned when he retired with Jeff and everything he's done for his career. And then of course you mentioned McKay. McKay Bechtin kind of ended up with the Eagles and then Stoutland turns him into an all-pro right guard playing right next to you. Can you just talk about Stoutland, what he kind of means to the team that old line in general and also please keep growing that beard out because it looks unbelievable right now. Yeah very stout as that beard looks very stout

like Stoutland. Yeah yeah well it's hard to find barbers back here. Usually when I'm back up in Philly, I'll slide in the team's barber and just get a cheaper one. So don't do it. Smart. Yeah, coach Stout, man. It's, you know, we've been very fortunate to have him. He came in the same year as I did in 13 from Alabama. But, you know, he kind of has the intensity of black of Al Pacino and he given Sunday locker room speech, he

kind of has that vibe. But you know, I think what makes him so great is that he realizes that people learn differently. So some people, guys on the team really respond to walkthroughs as much as, you know, sitting in the classroom. But he finds a way to keep it fun, engaging and you know, I think what makes him so good as well is, you know, any guy that's had to come in a backup. We've had many playing pass through roles, but

every guy that's stepped up is treated like a starter. It doesn't matter where he is on the depth chart. Every guy is treated the same and yeah, man, we have a lot of fun. Whenever we're in the room and we work whenever we're out there on the field. But he is a character, if you ever get a chance, I think Hard Knocks might be coming in this season. So I hope that they can hide that camera in there. I think it will make some really good content.

Okay, so we got some Stoutland magic coming through Hard Knocks. And obviously, your guys' offense aligning him, obviously being spotlighted in a big way. And in such a big way that awards even get talked about. Tone Diggs has a question for you, Lane. Yeah Lane obviously you're one circle pro bowl all pro but I'm not sure if you know this or not you won one of the most prestigious awards in sports. A.Q. Shipley named you the best tackle of the year for the Trenches last year. Congratulations! This is the month's ago you won this.

Hey, I want to get that trophy, put it in the locker and put it somewhere, put it in the gym. Okay, we have it actually. We're waiting for the address to send it to. That is 18 Shipley at 390 pounds, a fullback, a leader of a wedge on the kickoff return, and a center in guard for the Arizona Cardinals. He actually would roll on his gut at the snap of the ball and he was doing that tush push before everybody else. He was gnawing on ankles. So it's a real award and we're waiting for an address.

You won it for best tackle. You did so congratulations on that. Just want to let you know. Well earned. It was a hard fight. There's a lot of names out there. You already know Deion was pissed. Deion Dawkins was not happy about it. There were some others obviously. The NFL stole that idea. Now there is the Actable Protector of the Year Award. How do you feel about that?

Well, it's taken them long enough to get something in the mix. You know, thankful for Neon for stepping up. But, you know, we have guys like Witt and Kelso, of course, making statements for the O-line community. So, yeah, man, I think it's pretty cool. And, yeah, man, I'm glad that it's finally a thing now. So shout out to Deion for getting it all started.

It's the clear, like it is literally the clear indicator on who's going to win the game. Oh, yeah. If you have a is literally the clear indicator on who's gonna win the game. Oh yeah. Like if you have a bad offensive line, you're gonna lose the game. Like that, you might win a couple games. I'm just talking, you're not gonna win. Yeah.

You are gonna win the game with your offensive line. You guys proved that. I assume many other teams in the past have, but I think it was more talked about this year than ever. It matters, you guys matter. And it's a talent, brother. Not everybody can do it, obviously. Yeah, and you guys matter. And it's a talent brother, not everybody can do it obviously. Yeah, and you know how it is when it comes to practice.

You usually have the O line D line doing their own thing, seven on seven specialists. So you'll kind of get in the mix a little bit. But yeah, it's really two different games out there. But I'm glad they're getting an award out now. What is, have you been fishing? We've been hunting. What have we got going on this off season? Growing a beard?

She had growing a beard, man, taking the kids to jujitsu, soccer, tumbling. So just a lot of, yeah, a lot of daddy daycare around here. So I'm in Oklahoma City now. Are you jujitsu? No, I stay out. I don't, I don't want to get wrecked squandoed in there.

So I kind of just hang out on the bleachers. Smart. Way to get back to the game with this O-line master kind of just hang out on the bleachers. Smart. Way to get back to the game with this O-Line Mastermind Summit. Congrats on becoming a Super Bowl champion again. And we can't wait to watch you play this year, brother. Thank you. I want to shout out Portillo's for sponsoring us there at Cosm for food.

So yeah, it's going to be an exciting one this year. I'm excited to get Joe and some of the guys out. So it'll be huge Portillo's down there cause him in Dallas That's sick that awesome in here good Yeah, and you eat portals That's the greatest coming together right yeah, that's a line that yeah, okay, maybe yeah We might have a little bit of some snow cones some whiskey there, too Yeah, we might have a little bit of some snow cones some whiskey there too

Yeah, just a huge party all right Well, good luck. Enjoy it all it's a lot of meat a lot of booze and a lot of information seemingly being Tossed around from one big man to the next you're the best ladies and gentlemen future Hall of Famer Lane Johnson Thank you, Lane Thank You Lane So much booze. Oh yeah. Oh shit. So much. They're just skipping beer it sounds like. I've had the opportunity obviously to hang out with uh multiple different offensive lines you know because I too fancy myself a beer drinker and they do they did at least I don't know about nowadays I don't know because where beer is. I

hope so. I hope. I think I would want my offensive line to do that in this day and age. I don't know, cause where beer is. I hope so. I hope. I think I would want my offensive line to do that in this day and age. I don't know if it's every offensive line. I think back in the day, my understanding it was every offensive line was basically the same group of people. Pretty miserable bunch, kind of funny. Definitely love beer.

Secret society. Yeah. Yup. Exactly. They know, they all understand what it is, but boy, they used to, they used to house alcohol. I mean it was Going out with them would be like I think that would be the representative of the football team So people be like don't end up at the rugby house or the hockey house wrestling the wrestling house Each of those houses had different Endings, you know and how it went all we kind of understood what it was for football

It's like I think good place to send if you want to just go with the offensive line the offensive line will kind of do this I couldn't even fathom an O line mastermind summit with different generations of offensive linemen because when they get together it becomes a You know, I think that has to be thousands of beers. I assume I saw And he's probably I think it was Landon Dickerson ripping a top of a beer can off with his teeth and then just taking that down. Yeah, the offense alignment are just a little bit different. They're built different, incredibly athletic too,

especially nowadays, because everybody's talking about the D-line and you need four first rounders on the D-line. Speed to get around the edge. You got a lot of one-on-ones out there. So it used to be like tackle, I'm sorry, like center guard, a little bit more on athletic, but big can move bodies. Didn't really have the best feet. Now you got nose tackles,

D tackles that are shaking. You have to be able to. Yeah. You kind of have to be able to. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. On that team. He's three, what 70, three 60 massive and he can move and shake it's outrageous that the offensive line has to be good and the Philadelphia Eagles had the best in the game AJ yeah I mean even speaking about athleticism like Lane was a line plate quarterback and when he first got to college right before he went to Oklahoma you still play quarterback like yeah the guys are free Catholic I think what jump yeah. Oh, yeah, he would don't call him as a quarterback

Yeah, I think no community college. Yeah, and oh, okay. Yeah, wow high school. He was like an all-state high school quarterback unbelievable After yeah, those are guys you won't watch and maybe you get ahead of schedule here and you buy Some tickets in X NFL season every smart. We are in the same month as an NFL game. Now, is it an actual NFL game? No. Yes it is. I mean, it's NFL uniforms will be on the field.

Bingo. Yeah. And you can bet on it. And it's NFL bingo. MCTC and Harbaugh, baby. They're both there. They're coaching the teams. Quarterbacks, we know.

Is David Blom playing? It's gonna be Trey Lance versus who's your hand and hooker hopefully okay we know these guys yeah but they'll play what ten snaps probably because we know who they are but anyways oh yeah Henning Hooker probably not Dave Buonan Hall of Fame guy I doubt it he's definitely anyways it's a Hall of Fame though we're celebrating the next class the Hall of Fame you can enjoy obviously the game which we will be doing certainly. We'll be there. Hey, we're gonna be there. Oh, yeah We're gonna be there. I think we're getting like a real I think we're getting a real setup over there to kick off the entire NFL

Season why not buy buy some tickets when I get $30 off the tickets at Seakeak why not download Seakeak and say you what, I have the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth and the BOOM! Readily available right now because they're a ticket buying platform that looks out for you AJ, you know what I mean? Yeah, they do. They think to themselves, how can we help our customers? Whether they're returning or new, we like to help these people.

So what they do is they score each ticket 1 to 10. Okay, they give it ticket one to ten okay? They give it a one to ten score. What is that one to ten scoring off of well? Are you get ripped off? Okay? Is this way too expensive of a ticket on a secondary market? You could get a cheaper one somewhere else is the placement of this ticket absolute shite. This is an absolute shitey Ticket they'll score you one to ten on those types of things if it's a red dot next to the ticket It's like SeatGeek's telling you, yes, we are selling this ticket, but you can get a better ticket. Okay, you can definitely get a better. If it's a green dot next to it, it's like, hey, our research

has told us there's a good price for the ticket that you're getting and should be a great experience. You'll never get catfished. Right now you can get $30 off using code PAT. That's going to be the easiest promo code in the history. P-A-T, $30 off any ticket. Now there are some restrictions that apply. Connor, what are those? Well, you know, if a game is 20 bucks to get a ticket, then you're not gonna get $10 back, okay?

You're not getting paid from Seek. Yeah, I don't think you can use this on tickets that are less than 30 bucks, maybe less than 50 bucks. We're not 100% sure what the restrictions are, but we do know that you can't just, you know, use this as a line of credit. Yeah, it might turn into like 30% instead of $30. They have tickets to everything. They do. Derby.

Oh, it's coming right up. It's home run derby. Gonna be incredible. Cannot wait for that. Game tonight. Big time game tonight. Huge game tonight. Activity sold out?

Yeah, soccer's happening tonight. Yeah yeah comedy music but festivals why I rank every ticket no they they don't rank yeah they score every ticket okay yeah I wonder if they do have hey this the best ticket on our app right now probably do for what the event yeah it's good. Shout out to CK. It's great. It is great. Shout out to US Men's National Team, which you were talking about, game tonight. Yeah, here we go.

They take on Guatemala in the Super Duper Cup. AJ, your thoughts on tonight's matchup? Well, you know, Nigel, the British gentleman earlier, made me worry a little bit. He said, we can't have a 2-2 tie to whoever they played last game, right? Wow, that was pretty good. Did I just hear an English man on the call?

Nigel back on the phone? He took it like it wasn't a win for us. Like yeah, we won in the shootout. Like does that not count? Yeah, it does. There's no overtime possibility as soon as the game's over, they give a rate to penalties because that's basically how soccer should be, by the way. Well, nobody really knows when the game is over either other than one guy on the field.

But yeah. We got a pretty bad game. Yeah, it could be a lady too, obviously, but we know what you're saying in the entirety of it. Tonight against Guatemala, what should we be looking for other than a way around Nigel's negative vibes? Host of the concave football, Bubba Gumpino. This should be an absolute shite kicking tonight.

Guatemala shouldn't stand a chance and I'd expect probably a snipe from Malik Tailman if I had to guess. Okay I like what you just said right there. Gumpi's never that positive about anything ever. No. Okay so the fact that the United States are taking on Guatemala tonight and an opportunity to get to the finals of the... They better win by ten or Gumpi's gonna be in a real tough mood tomorrow. This place is sold out. Congrats. Congrats. Let's go boys. I can see tonight No conceited. No conceited. If we can see them, I'm gonna lose my mind man Are you gonna watch D-Bunch? Of course. I'm worried though. I'm honestly worried cuz to your point I'd never hear gump that positive about anything. So that can't work out. No, it means he knows

I sold out barn dude, St. Louis Are you trying to get us to lose cuz Canada lost What are you talking about? We were in a USA tarp the other day. Guatemala kind of parks above Barn dude lose because Canada USA Parks above Guatemala Guatemala, but they're a good don't worry. They only beat they only beat Canada because they got a red card Canada got a red car They'd be kidding they parked the boost like there was no tomorrow and they parked the boost you can look for a cagey affair Yeah, and if tonight's a cagey affair, that's not good for soccer as a whole.

And Ponches boys don't want a KG affair. No. We attack. We want a violent affair. All these tournaments have been bangers every game. Last night, another banger, Dortmund, Monterey 2-1. I guess even that 10-1 game was pretty cool too. That's the team that did the stay inside.

It's too hot out there. Dortmund. Oh yeah, we like Dortmund. I remember Dortmund was nice to us they were very nice they got us beers that made you pay $100,000 yep and then they paid you back that night yeah it was actually AJ had to pay for the beers it was you know two beers for like 58 bucks but yeah the Dorman guys were great they were great alright so United States of America tonight we ride yeah joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who's

about to ride a dynasty I guess for the next 10 years We got a chance to chat with him after they won their second Stanley Cup in two years and Then what he has done during free agency is somehow do something that is illegal. We don't know what it is We're not privy to the information But somehow the back-to-back Stanley Cup champions had been able to sign their entire team until 2031 the man that did that friend of the program Jenser Bill Zeta Bill! Bill!

Hey, hey Bill, sweet glasses first of all. I love what you're doing right now. Can't see a thing, yeah. Yeah, I love that. You had to feel so good as this was all coming together. Every piece of the puzzle that was potentially out the door. Remember we talked about TSN's top five free agents of the NHL offseason. Three of them were Florida Panthers. Some of us who are maybe Pittsburgh Penguins fans or Boston

Bruins fans or maybe any other team in the entire NHL were thinking there's no way they're gonna be able to keep this team together. A lot of greatness is gonna be leaving Florida. Bill Zito is gonna have to rebuild this thing. Instead you get deals done with basically every star that was potentially out. You got MVPs back in the building and you keep your core that has been so damn dominant over the last three years. How'd you get it done? And was this what you were expecting going in to offseason? I think you felt very optimistic when you chatted with us, but as it takes place, how does it kind of all unfold?

It uh, it's really the guys. It has very little to do with me. Um, they wanted to stay. I think they appreciated each other. They appreciated the opportunity that they have. Um, I do think that they appreciate all that the coaching staff and ownership does to allow us to try to do things the right way. But ultimately, they're staying because of them and because of their teammates. And that's really the only reason and it does make you feel good to be able to have the privilege to be part of it. Yeah, be a part of it be a massive piece of kind of putting everybody in the same room and letting them deal with it, empowering others is also a great display of leadership. And your team, I think we talked to Gary Bettman the other day, I think every hockey person I talked to,

the way your team plays hockey is one that I think all hockey people respect and appreciate as well. On that note, the way hockey people celebrate is also something we all appreciate and respect. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Bill, you talked about, you just said it's because of the boys and what they wanted. How much did it help with negotiations that they were hammered the entire time? And then they were

just kept and they, they just kept yelling, I'm not fucking leaving. That helped. It was, it was, it was great that they did it. And when you watched them, I think I wasn't there. I was like you guys, but, um, you know, they really enjoyed their time together. They enjoy their celebration with the cup. Um, and it is kind of a theme through our group. You know, you can make fun of situations. You can make fun of yourself. Um, you know, I always talk about how kind everybody is to each other. Well, in tandem with that, um, it's, it's a pretty sporty room and just lots of fun, lots of gags, dark

humor, light humor, but don't take it too seriously. So it's great. Pretty sporty room. That's a good way to describe a group. I'm the victim of that sport. Yeah, I'm sure. And that's the ones I know about. Yeah, well, you're buying them dinner though on the road and they're all eating together. It feels like that sporty room is what everybody is looking for in hockey. Go ahead, AJ. Bill, yeah, have you talked to anybody

or studied teams that have had the success that you have had obviously in two cups in three years, everything you're doing too. How do you continue this? How do you keep it going? We know how difficult it is to like consistent success in professional sports is very, very difficult.

Have you began to, I guess, look around like, Hey, who can I talk to? What can I do to make sure we keep this thing the way we have it? We keep getting better. Yeah. And I should actually probably reach out to you. So then after you win it in Green Bay, then how do you keep? How do we did? Unfortunately, you went there when you wanted.

Well, I was there, but I'm saying we should have won four. Like that's what we had Aaron Rodgers. We should have won a lot more. So I talked to a lot of people, a lot of people in hockey, a lot of people across other sports, and just try to learn as much as I can. The biggest thing was more from the coaching level as to how to keep How to understand I guess what people call the hangover if you will and then at the same time appreciate the fatigue level Maybe even the emotional fatigue and then help the guys get back with our group We're so lucky we didn't have to do a whole lot, but our coaching staff is just outstanding

Patience is really important and then strategically on the other side of the calendar is sort of doing those projections one, two, three, four years out. If this happened how could we address it? And some of those projections we don't have an answer for yet. Maybe four years away, you know, maybe a couple maybe's but at least you start thinking about it and that most of the time is enough to get it done Yeah, you got your core until 2030 It seems like if all the reports on the internet are accurate So you're gonna be able to continue to hopefully just kind of add to your culture throughout the next few years of dominance I think you guys are assuming or hoping for at least gonna put in the work to kind of continue to

Achieve the new CBA that's gonna take place. How does that affect anything you are doing now? Is there anything in that that's potentially going to unfold that affected how you kind of structure things now or how you did contracts? Or is that something you deal with whenever that becomes instituted which Gary Bettman thinks is going to be relatively soon which is a year ahead of time which never happens in professional sports? Well, there's a number of things, sort of technical things,

contract wise, that may or may not impact us. The season could go to 84 games. That's something that would obviously impact us. We've already taken we started, well, maybe late in the season to address next season already. OK, we've gone to the finals three years in a row. How tired are these guys going to be? What can we do? Well, maybe they're not. First of all, let's just not assume they are. Two, what could we do to sort of lessen the load physically and emotionally? We've already

started to modify our training camp. We're going to do that differently. Examining the travel, our training camp. We're going to do that differently. Examining the travel nuts to bolts. So with the cap going up, that's going to help us. We're going to be right at the cap this year. It's going to be tight. But since, as you pointed out, our core's locked up to 2030, it will give us flexibility as we have more cap space to supplement and to help and to make additions to support that core. And if you need to get rid of any of those guys, we're talking Bennett, Marshy, hell Bob, you know, you just sent them right to Pittsburgh. Yeah, Chuck, you sent them right to Pittsburgh, Bill. Okay. You do that. You go ahead and do that. Okay. Um,

obviously a lot of success has to come, uh, has to fulfill a lot of things that you've dreamt about throughout your entire life. Your team showing you love has to be another thing that you can't put words or a price tag on. Go ahead, D-Butch. Yeah, Bill, I got to ask you, after the final game in the locker room, I know it's something that Panthers fans love to watch, probably just hockey fans in general, when that puck is handed out to someone in that locker room. Now, I don't know if you can confirm or deny, did you receive the final puck,

I don't think I've seen it confirmed legitimately anywhere, and what was that moment like after when it all, once again? I did receive the puck, I put it in the board, and it was surreal. And I still probably don't appreciate it. I was so shocked and so surprised that I just, I don't even know what I said. You know, way to go. There was no poignant moment.

You know, you think about that. I'm going to say this and from the heart. And I think I just said, am I supposed to do this? I was pretty rattled. But looking back on it, it was an honor and what a privilege to be with those guys. I don't know, I think it was the game before. They gave it to Vitek Venecek, the backup goalie who didn't play. Last year we had one where Jona Gajdjevic was away from the team and

he had twins. So he rejoined us in New York and he didn't even see the boys. Like he came in at six 30 and just came to the rink and we won it. And Nico Micaela looked up. Say, Gads, your player of the game. Cause he had just had the twins. If you see the social media on it, it's awesome. And the whole room erupts.

That's them. Yeah. That's your team. It watching the celebrations here from the golf carts to the pools to the strawberry margaritas to the Dairy Queen. Feels like they're all together and they want to be together and families too. We got a lot of kids playing with each other I think they all live in the same area. It's like you've literally built a community down there and the community's culture is we're going to win hockey games in an awesome way. Yeah even on the ice

sorry because you're all even on ice, once they won it, passing the cup around to the first time winners, everybody gets to touch it first, for their first time experiencing that. That just lets you know, that illustrates what type of team, what type of culture that they really have in there. So congratulations on receiving that final puck, man.

World deserve it. You've shown it with this offseason. Hell yeah, Bill. Yeah. It was like the family thing. You can't overstate that. So, I mean, even, even Marsha, when Marsha, no one knew what was going to happen. And my kids, his daughter's name's Ruru might be the cutest human on earth. My kids are saying, you have to get Ruru back, dad. You have to get Ruru back. And then the

next night, I don't know know maybe it was two nights after and the boys had already gone a little bit but they still had some in them Matthew Kachuck says let's have a party with everybody and everybody's families kids everybody let's go and it was awesome we had so much fun that feels like that's every day for you guys down there hop on a golf cart go to the golf course hang out with each other let's go work our asses off at the rink so we can fight other people and beat them it's like you guys have everything that every type of team is looking for every business is looking for congratulations on keeping that and

enjoy the hell out of the offseason bill you look awesome right now thanks appreciate it very much you're glowing brother you're glowing and also congratulations on being the most super Italian in America, right? You want some yeah, you want Italian most Italian Italian, right award. I Would like to win the most Italian Italian award that would be something but I think you did you're getting honored I think at this golf. No, that's the yeah the national Italian invitational. That's a golf Oh, yeah, the truck one golf outing out of Lake Geneva. Yeah, I That's a golf outing out of Lake Geneva.

I'm sure some Packers had won it, AJ. I don't know. But have you been to Lake Geneva? Oh yeah, Lake Geneva's awesome. I'm not Italian, but yeah, congrats. Lombardi won one, Lombardi won one. Lombardi, like a lot of big names, but it's a special place and I'm just honored. And it's a great charity and they raise money

and have scholarships. It's wonderful. Well, congrats on being named their most super Italian and that's a big honor coach Pagano won that in years past Yeah, that's how we learned about the most Italian Italian Award and we are pumped as hell for you to enjoy that and everything else that you've worked your ass off for congratulations bill Thank you Gretzi, butgo, Bill Zito. Yeah. The most Italian Italian.

I think our show has the most Italian Italian award winners to ever be broadcaster on it. Yeah, I assume so. Oh yeah. I think so. Two. A lot of paisans of the program have won the most Italian Italians. That's the ultimate goal. When's Stereotor getting his? That's got to be the ultimate goal when Starator get his that's got a

Oh, I got it. We got a four of them. I think we might see gene's territory in the near future. That'd be awesome I'll tell you why that that is a mood lifter soon as Starator walks into the room Boom, who's that guy? He's so good, yeah the throwback NFL games awesome. And then when he comes on to make a call It's even better. He also there for a little bit. He was doing the Just so casual what do you a lot of refs wondering what to do with your hands? Well, Starritor's got an answer one of these times. I'm gonna make sure this thing's on That's first down first down. That's first time. He's the best

We got personal file. We all saw it 74 right over there 15 hour penalty first down Gene sartor is the man also saw who he learned that from the pittsburgh ref the high school I'm assuming that guy was Italian. Yeah, no 200 years. Yeah, maybe I don't know. Yeah, there he is right there Actually, you want to zoom in there? He is. That's a bit, uh, Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League. Triple OG. First time. That's a hold. We saw it. First time. We got face mask, defense, number 16. That's up St. Clair. First time.

Guys are great. This is the best. Clair, first up. Guys greatest. The best. I can't believe they tried to eliminate the Yenzer accent from like, when people get out of Pittsburgh and they get into situations where more people can hear them, they immediately go,

you gotta fucking get that out of your voice. Whatever that is, sounds like you're just all saying one word and it's marbles in her. You know you're aware of that? It's like the Yenzer accent is the greatest by far. Anything that is said is funny in it. Yes.

I never knew about it until coming out. It's just coming out here. Didn't even know there was Pittsburgh accent. Very lazy. And then if you just think about the human, that's probably saying it's just so good. Oh my God. My D coordinator in college was Pittsburgh

and his favorite word was, just don't be a jack off. All right. Don't be a jack off. All right. Come on, Jack. I like he loved that we all use it. You hear that shit a lot. Do you think Bill Zito claims Pittsburgh? He should.

We're definitely claiming him. I don't think he has an argument against it. Sounds like he claims that play for Steelers. Well, Ironman or superman to do can't do. All right. This terrible show ends now. We will continue digitally. Hopefully you'll join us back again tomorrow Have birthday America. It's right around the corner. We'll see you then. Goodbye. I

Was very professional. I came quickly there. Yeah, it did actually for guest today five. Yeah moving. Oh, yeah Shams won't give it. Do you see that? We did some real like breaking news from the newsroom and shams trying to get his tweet He's trying to fire his tweet off. Yeah while talking shams good at multitasking Obviously that was a thing to watch him do that New York Knicks get a head coach AJ Mike Brown Mike Brown. Yeah, I mean all I could think of when I heard Mike Brown was D button match video Whenever he was trying to tell the guys how to run how to get back on D or whatever it was like I knew hey That's that's our guy.

We need that guy. All roads led to a notable probably, right? For the Knicks? Well, it started that way. Yeah, I think it was kind of just scrambling, hey, people know this guy. We probably won't get killed if we hire him. Let's go ahead and grab it. Cuz he was what?

Probably like the eighth choice, choice realistically going into the offseason I mean they went but they would say that they were just casting a wide net for sure It's not in favorite We are just trying to interview as many people as possible like in the NFL they interview while like 20 30 people No, yes, like yeah like 15 20 people But you know who's leader in the clubhouse because we never knew who the leader in the clubhouse was for the Knicks because everybody was Seemingly opting out of being a leader in the clubhouse. We never knew who the leader in the clubhouse was for the Knicks because everybody was seemingly opting out of being the leader in the clubhouse.

Exactly. We only got to him because they requested all these other people and they said no. And it was like, OK, can't do him. Can't do him. They're like, well, shit. Mike Brown's available. Let's go get him.

But even that, they brought in Don Staley, too, and some of those other people. Shams named. He is. He's got a track record and he's a good coach. But I think you're being ignorant. And if you think like they come out and say like, he's the guy who we wanted all along. No, maybe they did in the back of your mind.

They're like the universal let us know if all these other guys we can interview and coach John Staley, if he ends up being the one it's the reason. And James Dolan could spin a web that that's where he wanted. Oh yeah. And he will spins a lot of web. It is weird that he spends a lot of webs that motherfucker does bit that sphere I Mean how much we paid for one concert? Yeah, I couldn't even fail my god what he's got going on Where's the other ones open in Abu Dhabi or something? I couldn't even fathom what that guy's got going on Yeah, the amount of money I'm sure and then him being the direct one, being like Mac V's not fucked. Yeah, right. I love it. Like I genuinely, I think people think that

I'm talking shit when I say that. No, if I was the owner of a team and somebody from the other team did had a speech or was a part of it, Hey, can he, can he come and get the fuck out of it? You can sit in a suite if you want to buy a suite. We'll get you, you're not going to be on the court. That's not representing us. I love that move out of that. I also appreciate that they did try to, as Bruce would put it, mid-major other NBA teams. It was like it was March Madness and mid-major coach has a good run. Like, all right, he's getting plucked to a bigger school.

That's how Bruce was describing what the Knicks were doing. I think that's how Bruce was selling it to himself. But once I viewed it that way, I was like, oh, that's fucking hysterical. Especially if Dolan was the one that was like, Mac, he's not sitting in court side. Like if he's like, ask him if they want to congratulate their coach. He coaches in fucking Minnesota. Ask him if he wants to come coach in New York. I love that.

Just the thought of it. Now this is no way like a normal avenue to get a head coach at all. But I do appreciate that the Knicks just do shit their own way, seemingly. The only way you get Jason Kidd is if Jason Kidd forces his way to the Knicks. And the only way to peak that interest is to go and ask the Mavericks, hey, can we talk to Jason Kidd? They say no, then Jason Kidd can force his way out and come over. I don't think there was ever any expectation that those teams would grant

an interview to their head coaches. I did think it was pretty funny to ask a bunch of them. But I think it often gets overblown, what are the Knicks doing? They don't have a plan, they're doing a coaching search is what they were doing. They interviewed Mike Brown, two time coach of the year. They got their coach, they got a better, deeper bench and the same starting lineup. And we just got to use our bench

and not blow a game one lead in the Eastern Conference Finals. See, I think about that, you guys doing a coaching search is the timing of your coaching search No doubt. was so late because your team made it to the Eastern Conference Finals. No doubt. Which is why people go like,

why are we doing a coaching search? But then the flip side of that is that like, Knicks fans should be like, man, we've always sucked. We should just be happy with being good now. And I think it was clear in the Pacers series that Rick Carlisle, you know, ran laps around Tibbido. And Tibbs was forced to go to a deeper rotation, which he never did once in the regular season.

While, meanwhile, Obie Toppin, who rotted away on our bench, is giving us 15 minutes a hell every single night. While Tibbs last season probably went to our GM Leon Rose and said, Obie Toppin, I can't play him. He's not good enough on defense. So all those combinations of things leads to them moving on and pumped up about Jordan Clarkson, former sixth man of the year coming off our bench now.

And I think we're well positioned here. I love that Bruce. Congrats Bruce. Congrats baby. Yeah Bruce. Hey he was, he's been awesome to this entire thing because at the beginning he's like every other Knicks fan where they fire tips after this.

Like, whoa, we got no plan or it's all happening. And then you can tell Bruce laid down at night and was like, what else are they supposed to do? And then starts going through it all. And he has done a full, it is the full reversal. I think that is a genuine attitude out of him right there. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, we are.

We did make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah, everybody's seemingly forgetting about that. And with new voice in there and maybe new strategy that we, you guys ran into it two years in a row in the playoffs. Yes. Pacers, both years. Now the Pacers do that to a lot of teams. I think we're learning You know Pacers took Oklahoma City One of the most dominant teams in the history of the NBA do a seven game series because of how they play

But I respect the fact that you as a Knicks fan was at the point of like the next fucking idiots and now it's like No, I'm with them. I think this is good play. I think Dolan will appreciate that. And if the Knicks make another run, that's good for the NBA. And it's good for the Pacers as well, even though we don't have Tyrese. Yeah, well, that's the thing for Mike Brown. And the whole entire Knicks thing, they look so dumb because they didn't have a plan.

And I get the Mike Brown thing. If they fired Tibbs and hired Mike Brown the next day, that would be a different conversation. And if you look at the teams that did fire coaches or have in the past, they usually just hire an assistant. The Spurs, they just, hey, let's go to the assistant. Nuggets, assistant, Celtics, assistant. I think the assumption would have been that they had some other assistant coach in the

Knicks organization that they loved and that they wanted to make head coach immediately and then they didn't. And then it took a few weeks and then it was Mike Malone would be perfect. And then Mike Malone either says no or doesn't wanna do it. I think that was the big thing. But Mike Brown is now in a terrible situation because of the fact that it's like, hey, you're either the two seed because all these teams in the East suck. And we're the only team really coming back with everybody aside from the Cavs.

So it should be the Cavs, Knicks, and and then everybody else and you guys better go back to the Eastern Conference Finals and when you get there you better win because if you don't then hey Mike Brown you just basically shit down your leg because this team's great. First year in he'll have excuses. First year in the system. That's what I'm saying. He'll have excuses ready don't worry. There will be reasons but I'm just, but it will have excuses ready. Don't worry. There will be reasons, but I'm just saying like after experiencing the Knicks series with us, like I understand that we are considered small market here in Indiana and the seven game finals was up 10% year over year when it comes to audience for the NBA and all that stuff.

But it's like the New York effect is very very and I happen to be in their city for two of the biggest days and watching just buildings empty in the streets to celebrate like the scenes that the Knicks gave to New York City and to the sports world as a whole it's like we would like the Knicks to be good yeah the NBA is a thousand times better when like the Knicks the Lakersakers, the Celtics, the old school teams are good. Just like hockey. Just like hockey.

Exactly. Gary Bettman told us a stat yesterday. Five new teams in the playoffs every year for like the last 20 years or so. I forget what the number was. He said five new teams get in it. This year, none of the original six were in there. That's not good for hockey. No.

First time Rangers, Penguins and Bruins haven't been in the playoffs I think at the same time since like what's that D-Buck? I kind of like you. I like where hockey's going. You need Pittsburgh in the playoffs. Man hand this shit out, I'll earn it. Pittsburgh yeah I don't need the Rangers. Pittsburgh started this whole Florida Panthers thing. You remember that What let them in? If the Penguins beat the Chicago Blackhawks last game two years ago That was a good team though the Bruin or three years ago

The Bruins don't play the Panthers in the first round of the playoffs and lose they that was the greatest regular season of all time You guys had yeah, you could just beat him in the first round Brad Marchand actually there's a tweet going around like biggest butterfly moment in the history of hockey was right way Bruins up 3-1 yeah breakaway end of the game with the clock running out yeah great save great as Bob baby yeah you think Bill is gonna send any of those guys to Pittsburgh I try to convince him I don't know his trailer park boys shot out of Pittsburgh I think think Bill might be a big fun What's that? I know those were bubbles glasses, right? I've never I've never seen that

Oh a man named bubbles could have those glasses in my mind. Yeah, is that same as poopies? Who's poopie? Oh, no, he is the be is the poopies the trailer park boys Did not deserve that there's a lot of people that didn't deserve a lot of today What do you mean? Buffles reference Nick's comment about Nigel was uncalled that was that was a kill. She was not about Nigel It was you said it was about British people in general about Nigel. It was you said it was about British people in general. Yeah I mean it was 10 seconds after he got off the phone. He had to have heard it. Still watching. Yeah Nigel's a great guy, he's great for the program. He's entertaining, he's informative, he's awesome. And sometimes we'll say

we love somebody and we don't mean it okay. I'm gonna give a little behind the curtain over here. a little behind the curtain over here. Nizel is a guy we love. I mean, that is, we've talked to him a long time. Long time. Yeah. It is funny just to drop a British accent in the middle of our show. It is, isn't it?

On 4th of July week. Literally. Capitao and Tutu, Costa Rica. What? We won that game. I mean, Connor said he was chewing rocks you're right what was wrong was man I couldn't hear shit he's talking about the way it sounds we need the captions under that when are we gonna get to the point

of tech where I'll be able to read what he's saying to me live you know we could just put up like indescribable British bullshit. But that doesn't help me. No, I know. But that doesn't help me. If it wasn't British bullshit. No, I know. I can understand him. You know, I'm just saying, you know, I could help people out. I mean, Amanda Anna Sanova.

Yeah. That's a tough British accent. That was good, yeah. I mean, that was tough for me to get. I didn't know if he, because you guys told me he said one name. I was like, oh my God, that's why. But they are naturally more funny than us, I think the British accent is naturally funnier. Like I think about Ricky Gervais Ricky Gervais

Can and will say anything and I think it's all just because of the accent, you know And their ability to use words that we've kind of stigmatized. Yeah big time is an interesting to weapon That is an interesting thing. That is a it is an interesting thing over there But uh shout out there England Wimbledon has been electrifying because I don't know any of these people are other than Joker Alcaraz I obviously know Madison Keys new Coco golf Joe Kovach Terry Pagula their their daughter Jesse Pagula sinner Okay, so we know some of these people, but a majority of these Wimbledon games I'm looking up who it is and I'm seeing a number that's low and a number that's high and the high ones winning and in it

It's been Wimbledon's been electrifying tennis is not something I'll ever be able to watch full-time But these big tournaments, you know, you get 80,000 for a first-round loss at this thing It is fun to watch the intensity and the reaction John Cena was over there in a full suit. Yeah. Oh, yeah He was he's a so hot he was so he's an American. He's a okay Yeah, he lived out of Florida Tampa for however long long time. Yeah, he's No air conditioning in the military barracks. You think they got air conditioning in there? No easy Yeah, he looks unbelievable. I assume he's sitting here the king or whatever. Yeah, Cena Yeah, yeah killed been lying easy long time. He was in a movie a marine. Yes. He was well Is he to step on those yellow foot? Oh, I don't know if he made it down to Parris Island, but he was a marine

in a movie His hair looks unbelievable he looks unbelievable He's really just batting It seems like scene is really doing Yeah peacemakers coming out as well. Very soon. There's another movie too. I just saw commercial with a very soon. Yeah It's gonna be unbelievable on Air Force. He plays the president of the United States. Yeah, it's gonna be John Cena foreshould Incredible at doing movies. Yes great actor great legit great actor. I agree His context his tone just kind of range same with range that he shouldn't have to athletes

Usually don't have range like he does doing comedy and drama all that stuff Dom Batista, too Oh, he's wrong. Oh, yeah Risks, you know doesn't give a shit if he looks like an asshole or if he has to make fun of himself I feel like that's a pretty big deal for a guy in his position. He does things on a regular basis over there that like that's a humiliation ritual. It's like no Cena's just fucking down from that. He's self-deprecating. Now or? We don't know. Did I say he's up for the next bond? You did not see that. That'd be sweet though. But they say that about everything. Like, Cena's willing to fucking do whatever. He did what? A four-minute dance routine of peacemaker to beginning of that thing with like

all the... Cena is a fucking beast. He's an absolute beast. That's a machine, that guy. Go ahead. I mean, he lived in China for a while, which... But, would that be said? What does that mean? Completely different land, which... What's that about?...and different land, which, and language. All right, if this goes in. Oh, do you learn to speak it? Hey AJ, AJ, he can't speak Mandarin.

What's up, Luhant? AJ, 200 pushups this morning on the. Great. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, we did a couple sets there. Yeah, we did a couple sets there. It was your pushups though, the ones on the bench. You said that's the. Oh, like a decline kind of inclineline. Yeah incline. I believe decline my feet on the bench, right?

Yeah, I would be hands on the bench. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, so like oh, yeah, that's great, isn't it? Yeah, it was really walks me up 50 close 40 Started at 50 Yeah, you can move your hands too Like you can start the hands hands in, go wide, close grip for your triceps, all that stuff. Great workout. Cause you're also doing a plank, right?

Cause you got a whole, the body up or whatever. I talked to Booker T about this whenever we did the boxing events and he's so jacked. He's like 60, whatever. And he's just jacked. He looks awesome. He say just as a 200 pushups a day or whatever, every morning starts his day.

Does 200 pushups a day. I was like starts his day does 200 push-ups a day I was like you you're you have no body fit. You're also like incredibly ripped He's like, yeah just the push-ups cuz you're doing planks there the whole time So it's a you're basically playing push-ups like the greatest workout of all time. I've started doing it. It is Amazing and then rowing crew. Mm-hmm That that machine, that back. Like I'm doing a lot of workouts for a lot of parts of my body that I'm like almost tricking myself

into doing here. You know, like the rowing is unbelievable. Back, tricep, legs. Kind of cardio too. Arms, cardio, like. Oh yeah. I think the number one rower in America, recruit is in Indiana.

Oh really? I think he's a senior in Indianapolis, recruit is in Indiana. Oh really? I think he's a senior in Indianapolis, Indiana. I don't know if it's Brownsburg High School or maybe Carmel High School, I don't remember. His dad was at one of our shows for the NBA finals. And he was like, hey, if you ever want to talk about rowing, the number one rower in the class of blah, blah, blah is my son, he's in Indianapolis, Indiana.

And he trained out on Eagle Creek Reservoir over there. That's interesting. Yeah, he is six Five maybe yeah, you gotta be a big son of a bitch and I'm like so amazed that he rowing is where I stayed cuz that guy Jimmy Graham's about to row to the Arctic Circle that's starting here soon any day now Geez, yeah, they're maniac. Yeah, that's a hard fucking work. I've been doing it. It's a great workout It's a full body type situation, you know, they say swimming's full Yeah. That's a hard fucking work. I've been doing it. It's a great workout. It's a full body type situation. You know, they say swimming's full body,

but you gotta get in the water. It's like a hole. I got a hole in my eardrum. I don't really necessarily love it. If I drown, I actually die. So, you know, that's not a desirable workout for me. Hasn't been. I've tried it a couple of times

because I know how good it is for the joints and does the whole body. This rowing thing, I've really gotten into it. I've really enjoyed it You put a song on to a couple songs on then you're just right on beat like you know whenever they're yelling It's like you kind of get lost in it Then you get up and you're like I can't fucking move my whole body my workout Second cousin of mine won gold at the Olympics rowing really coaching a combo. I think that no Delaney. I think they Really coaching a combo. I think that no Delaney. I think they

Actually when he was rowing he won silver or bronze, but then when he coached they won gold and I think he coaches at UCLA Maybe he like his D one coach. No, it's hard. What's the rap shit? Like all-american yeah rap shit want to go what I thought right? But you saw how strapped he was when he was rowing. Yeah, he was a short stout. What are the short, swole guys at? I don't know if in the big races or in the one he was in. I mean, I assume he was in the biggie series. He was in all of it. Yeah, the short, swole guys, I think they just drown in the lake.

No, he's an all-mer. No, that is not. These guys certainly aren't making it to the Olympics. Yeah. These guys are huge. I think the rowing guys, volleyball guys, huge. Yeah, the Winkle Vi. Remember them in the movie? Yeah. They're big rowers. He was in front. Yeah, volleyball guys huge. Yeah, the Winkle the Winklevine the wait remember them in the movie

Yeah, they're big rows in front tall is huge That's a different human. That's not you. That's a rap boy right there in front with sunglasses. Yeah He likes to take off his or obviously Watch on to what's the walk? Well, he's keeping time for a big flexing 22. Yeah, he's in there You know how many seconds it's taking them barking out that rap sheet the night before was up to some senile shit I know for a fact what's seen off? Yeah, like forgetting. He's doing it exactly Here up for If this goes in, Ian Rapoport was never seen off. Okay, okay.

Maybe he did some seen off shit though. Oh, fuck! I wanted that so bad. Bonobo, bonobo, bonobo. Come on! Were you confused with it? Bonobo Bonobo Bonobo Were you confused it cuz rap he did actually roll the entire Nile River one time What's this for tonight USA Oh, yeah, it's big USA Guatemala

Semifinals of the conquer calf notaff, not to be confused with Concaifa, the Conca Caff gold cup tonight. AJ, what's the final score, USA, Guatemala? 8-0, US wins. Love that, that's basically what Gumpy was saying. Gumpy, who is one of the greatest footy handicappers on earth from the Hammer, podcast and the Concaifa pod. Gumpy? 3-0. Tone? 3-1, we all know they will concede. hammer podcast and the concave a pod company three nothing tone three one we all know they will concede they don't have to they won't concede again they won't concede again toxic table at Boston Connor score tonight I'm gonna go zero

zero penalties and then who wins come on we're freezing there okay so we went in penalties you're saying. Yeah. Okay, how many saves does Freeze have? Five. Wait, that doesn't make sense. Four. He has four out of how many?

Out of four. Out of five. Four out of five? It wouldn't probably make it to the fifth, I'd assume, if he had four there. No, because they score first. And then, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's two, one.

Yeah, but that thing's over early, unless are we not scoring any of ours either? Yeah, they're always standing on his head too. And then boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom we win everyone goes down freeze has his tongue out again. Like, ah, ah, ah, USA. USA. Okay. Ty. I'm going to say four nil us. And I also believe it's supposed to be pretty hot out there.

Rumor has it. Ponch is going to cut holes in his slacks and hang his nuts all night. That's what punch. That's what he's been doing. That's what he wants. Just to debutch your predictions for tonight's USA The ass was chaps free to freeze locked in he's down to be win five Oh, no can see what city of the

St. Louis Home turf, what's your prediction? Okay, it's a good question. I have USA Okay, it's a good question. I have USA For two, okay, oh they can see they did concede again Yeah, you're right you're right it's an international game you're right, what was I doing? I, well, hey, it's an honest mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Boom. Boom. All right. So USA wins regardless, it seems. Boom. We're good. All right. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. Enjoy the hell out of this summer. We appreciate you all for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me.

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