The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1378 - The Open Championship Recap, Adam Schefter, J.J. Watt, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Scottie Scheffler’s dominating win at The Open Championship notching his fourth career major, his comments leading up to the tournament, and why he is ultimately inevitable. They also cover TJ Watt finally getting his deal done with the Steelers making him the highest paid non-QB in the history of the NFL, the entire NFLPA situation, and everything else happening around the sports world. Joining the show LIVE from a University of Michigan golf outing is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter, to discuss everything happening around the NFL as every team prepares to report to camp this week. Next, future Hall of Famer, Texans Ring of Honor member, 3x NFL DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, 7x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, and now NFL on CBS color commentator, JJ Watt joins the show to discuss TJ’s new contract, his breakfast setup this past weekend, and buying another soccer team. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this overreaction Monday July 21st 2025 this program begins right now For our happening all around us and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day Obviously sports had a massive weekend and we'll be chit chatting about it all. Huge contracts handed out in the NFL. Congrats everybody getting paid. The WNBA All-Star weekend happened here in Indianapolis. They're calling it Indiami. Ooh, I like that. They're saying it was Miami in Indianapolis.

I'll tell you what, I saw a lot of videos. Looks like everybody's having a great time. Looks like everybody's having a blast. Now, there's a big statement coming out of the WNBA, obviously with them saying, pay us what you owe us shirts. There's different takes on all different sides We sent an invite to Kathy Engelbert the commissioner of the WNBA to come on on this particular day Obviously schedule is crazy look for us to chitchat with her here in a while

Hell yeah, because I am trying to figure it all out. I am trying to figure it all out Because whenever we found out what the WNBA pays their players through Caitlin Clark She she's making like 70 grand or something. They're charging 70,000 bucks for a suite at some of these games that Caitlin Clark is playing in. Now, I know that the league's been around for 20 years. I know that it's lost money for a very, very long time here. I know they're saying like $40 million in losses potential. Now, $200 million in revenue as a total, $40 million in losses. Just quick, you know, business, everybody understands this P&L, you know, profits and

losses, $200 million in revenue. that's your gross, then your net revenue is what you're making out of that, right? Every business has expenses, every business has costs. For the WNBA, it's a lot, obviously, you got like 140 players or something like that, depending upon the, at the time, how many are hired, how many are employed, the buildings, everything else like that. They are then from that $200 million gross revenue, allegedly back here at 40 million in the red as a loss. Allegedly. We don't know what's real and what isn't real, but allegedly everybody has said they've never turned a profit. So the immediate reaction is whenever you say, pay us what you owe us, it's like you're not making any money.

So what do we owe you? You owe us money. This is actually one of those things. But if we're already losing $40 million, could you not just bump them up to at least six figures? Like $70,000 as a paycheck is a very, that's an embarrassment. Yeah. Especially for like Caitlin Clark or all these people as a professional sports. Now with that being said, my dad, his job, if he would have got paid $70,000 a year growing up would have been incredibly pumped about that.

But with how long WNBA has been around to say the $40 million loss is the reason why you can't give them money that should be pretty easy to make happen is just why because if you if you just add 30 grand each one of them get That up over a hundred thousand bucks. It's another like four point six million So you're four forty four point six million in this way There has to be four million you can find somewhere in here that you can give up to give the players at least a little Bit more money because I don't think the seventy thousand dollar000 thing is right but I think that negotiations gonna be tough. I think it's gonna be a very tough negotiation. Now it seems like the players though all in on their side of it and then if you listen to everybody else talk it's like hey business this

is how business works you know but you make money you get money it's kind of how it goes but it's like if you're operating in a 40 million dollar loss of a 200 there's a lot of things going wrong. Yeah we could sneak in an extra 30 grand per player for it to get up to $100,000. Hopefully that'll be a conversation. Hopefully there'll be incentive base for it to go forward. But that was the big story out of the weekend. I don't love that that's the big story of the weekend

because I thought it was a great weekend here in Indianapolis. Every city, every place downtown was rented out. There was massive events everywhere. Nike took over an entire basic block of Indianapolis and built it up. It was awesome. We had a great weekend here even though you know collective bargaining is gonna be the conversation going forward and there's no reason for anybody, especially

after his stud buds basically brought the whole world together. That's right. Shout out to the stud buds. They were just streaming their entire time here in Indianapolis. You're welcome back anytime you want. They're getting after it too. Oh yeah. I mean they were having a good live. Yeah. Stud Buds were a great time. That's Buds football. That is Stud Buds football. That is kind of what we realized this weekend. So shout out to the WNBA coming through our city. We hope you enjoyed it. And shout out to Scottie Scheffler. Scottie Scheffler, as I was, you know, watching what he was doing yesterday, you know, with my daughter running around, so you catch it back. It's great backdrop. Great, great. A little earlier in the day, know because they're in Ireland so obviously they're

six hours seven hours ahead so in the morning you get a chance to watch it as opposed to just the afternoon so there's some pros and some cons. Long day afterwards with nothing afterwards you know. Yeah. So that is certainly a give and take that we had there but watching this dude it's like what words do you use to describe him? I guess inevitable. I guess that is a word that you can describe him as going into any tournament it's just is a word that you could describe him as. Going into any tournament, it's just like Scottie Schaeffler's probably gonna win this thing. I even put out a tweet that's like every three weeks

I get a chance to see his family. Little Bennett, this boy's growing so quick. Yeah. Hey, last time I seen this guy, you know, was at his previous win, which was just a few weeks ago, and then previous wins a couple weeks before that. We're keeping up with him every couple weeks here. It's like I'm following him on Facebook.

It's like I'm catching up with their family portraits, basically, as they're going. Beautiful family, family happy family little boy almost getting up that hill to get to the green Fantastic, but all in all the only word you can really say about Scotty Scheffler is obviously it's like hey He has a four-stroke lead. He's gonna go right for it. There's gonna be a lot of danger in between It doesn't have to do it get played safely Well, he's gonna and then he's gonna get it to six feet actually obviously that is what Scotty Shepard's gonna do Hey for the tenth consecutive time He's had a lead going into a Sunday four strokes or more and now is the first hole is he gonna be nervous?

He's gonna come out a little gunshot. Ah, it's gonna go ahead and put it to tap in length on the first hole Let the rest of the field know like hey this Sunday is exactly how every other day is gonna go then we go obviously What a stroke middle of the fairway, what's that mean? Oh, we mashed his drive to a perfect location Hangs that thing up high right? What's the what's the topography gonna do for you? Oh, it's gonna put it right next to the hole It's like anytime he needs a shot He shows up and does it and I hate to like kind of harp on this because it does feel like it steals the chatter a little bit.

People are like, Scotty's not entertaining enough to be a top man, a leading man. Does he have the personality of the guys in the past? You know, Tiger, we had the red shirt on Sunday. We had the fist bump. We had the intensity. We had the entire thing. What do we have with Scotty? What do we have with Scotty? He's just like, every shot's a good one somehow. Every single shot somehow is being great.

And he's starting to show a little bit more emotion. He's starting to introduce himself to the world a little bit more. He's given some deep perspective takes about life and golf and his deal as a professional athlete and how he views it over the last few days. And I want to let Scotty Scheffler know, we love you, buddy.

You're great for sports. And people watching you do your thing at the highest level in the biggest moments with the most amount of pressure And you're not cracking at all you staring down the biggest moment in the hardest moment because in golf if you're off by that much I mean it's over he could still score a nine on a hole Yeah, there's still a chance that could happen on any swing He said can't wait to get to Memphis now everybody's even par yet again here is on 12 for birdie You know 11 was tough hole Oh, everybody's talking about 12

He bounced back get a birdie here. No problem. How you doing? Keep it moving then he wraps it up on 18 with like a three foot tap in as the guy that he's playing alongside Basically said he was a joy to play with the guy's happy. He doesn't seemingly have any like bad Traits about him at all the way he views life is spectacular about him at all. The way he views life is spectacular. I think there's a chance he might start smoking a little weed. Which I'm obviously I am a huge proponent of. If not, he's been at the top of the mountain long enough now he's been able to look around and be like hey all I wanted to do was get here. This is all I wanted to do. Become the best I could possibly become. Be the best in the world.

Get to the top of this mountain. He gets to the top of the mountain, he looks around. This is it. This is what I committed my entire life to. He told me, he gave an answer yesterday afterwards. It was like, when I was like four or five years old, I used to wear pants to golf course because I saw professional golfers do it. All I've ever wanted to do is become a professional golfer. My entire life I've tried to become a professional golfer.

And then you get here and you realize that the only good time is right after you win. And then it's like a two to three minute feeling and then it's like, okay, got to get home, back to America, got to get to my family, got Memphis on Tuesday, everybody's even par. This is kind of the same notion that everybody that gets to the top of their respective fields kind of starts to feel. It's either your win is a relief

and a loss is total devastation. He's at that point now in a sport that it's not supposed to have that type of expectations where if he's in a tournament, he's supposed to win it. And if he doesn't win it, it's like what happened? And if he does win it, it's like, well, are you supposed to win it? Let's see what happens next. I hope there's a chance for Scotty to continue to be able to play as well as he's playing while viewing the world this way. And I hope he continues to balance life and golf at the same time, because I think he's doing it better than any megastar has ever done it, any phenom

has ever done it and then you listen to Jordan Spieth talk about him afterwards didn't kind of could have been kind of felt like a shot kind of felt like a shot about how he does things differently than all of us and he doesn't do as many corporate events he's not chasing money he's not chasing any of this he just wants to play golf and be with his family. And he's able to turn it off when he goes home. And he said he was going home with him and he wasn't able to. It's like Scottie Scheffler might be the most relatable,

normal, awesome dog in the history of sport. He is a dog. To get this good, you have to have a maniacal work ethic. You have to be dialed in. You have to know every little thing about your swing, the golf ball, the golf course, and everything else that's happening around you. To do that, the amount of work you have to put in is absurd. So we'd like to say to Scotty, we appreciate the hell out of your commitment to your

sport. We appreciate the hell out of your commitment to you and us watching your baby boy grow up into inevitably becoming a champion, which we assume will happen in anything. Doesn't matter what he does if it is golf or something else. We can't wait to follow along and thank you for what you're doing for sports. Because when your name's on a leaderboard or when you're in a tournament, it is must watch because there's a chance that he goes seven straight holes

and hits the best shot you could possibly hit on every single shot. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. He's untouchable right now. And the only person that you can compare him to is Tiger Woods and he and Tiger Polar opposite human beings both were the check mark though Yeah, they do the only person like the current run that he's on is is tiger like and I hope he continues to do it

You know like Kepka Spieth Rory They had all they've run similar to this but the difference between that and tiger was the tiger just did it forever But you talk about being on the leaderboard and being in the tournament, he has put the PGA Tour on his back. He's got 11 straight top 10s and 30 of the last 36, that's the last two years, he's been top 10. If he's been in the 30 of 36, he's been finished in the top 10. So like if Scottie's playing in a tournament, he's going to be in the top 10, he's going

to be there and everyone's going to tune in to watch Scottie. He's literally putting tour on his back. And if we know anything from Swing to survive. Yep, correct. Yep First swing drive to there it is Full swing on Netflix their schedules are horrendous. Oh, yeah, cuz he's back in Memphis Tuesday or Wednesday So he was just obviously a Northern Ireland has to fly back to Dallas, Texas. Then he's in Memphis. That's on Tuesday Wednesday as she has to go in there, get the course, get a practice round, Pro-Am,

I assume he's not doing those Pro-Am anymore, who knows? I hope not. I hope he isn't either. Guys making top 10, he's in every single weekend, he's doing his entire thing. But it's like him being able to balance being a human while their touring schedule is insane over there. Not a lot of time down, not a lot of time with family.

The fact that he's been able to balance it all and figure it all out, I'm proud of him. I'm pumped for him. Let's go to the talk table at boss Connor, at Ty Schmidt. Con man, your thoughts on old Scotty Scheffler carrying golf right now for all of us and even I think the live guys and the PGA guys, they're all saying that's the motherfucker right there. And that's a good place to be if you're here. Yeah. And thank God we got him. Like I feel like without Scotty, it is a much different tournament. Obviously, it's a major no matter what you're going to tune in But I think that was my biggest takeaway is that when it is a major you want, you know 18th hole coming down to the finish, you know

Everybody's tied in in your damn you're going to go to a playoff But when it comes to scotty when it is like that and you're just watching scotty chef for golf Because that's all it was. You weren't watching for competition. You weren't watching to see who's going to win. You know, Scott is going to win. You're watching Sunday just to see what he does and he delivers. So that's why I think I have grown to love Scotty so much is because it's not

like a, Hey, walk in the park. You mentioned it. The first hole he's going, he's basically going for the hole. He's going for a damn albatross and he doesn't need to. I think that's why it is so entertaining and it is great to have a dominant golfer because even when all those guys were going, Brooks was making his run and everything, there wasn't like the clear cut number one. Tony just said it. In the last two years, he's been top 10 and 30 events. He is by far the greatest goal. He's head and shoulders above whoever you want to put at number two.

And I think that's why it has been so entertaining to watch some of these matches because you know, he's just balling out. Yeah, I enjoy watching him golf and what can't be lost in all this debuch, nine year NFL vet is the amount of work that has to go into getting this point. You know, because he's just so ho-hum all the time. You know it's just like I just hit it 350. I just put it to two feet on a Sunday at the open, a major that I have never won before. I just made a huge putt. He made, I forget what his putts were, he has the best day he's ever had putting I think. I think he's figured out

the putting because the putting was kind of the question mark here. How was Scottie's putting says Jamie Kennedy great account pulled up some great stats He finished a week 59 is 63 putting inside 10 feet. Okay, so those are the ones that are first of all They piss you off. Yeah, the knee knockers Yeah, the knee knockers are the ones that piss you off But also if you're able to make those you can gain a lot of strokes Scotty Sheffler used to miss every once in a while at this distance And everybody was like his only weakness is his putter his only weakness is his putter It's like the guys won three majors. I don't know if his putter is that weak

I understand it's not as good as his irons or his driver, but he went to work on his putter very clear Yeah, very evident change his grip. Yeah Oh grip it went to the claw grip and it's been it's been different since and you talked about everything man How his peers speak about him? I think the Shambbo he spoke about him after I think they're both like Dallas area kids He was like look I used to play against Scotty all the time. He was never that good You talked about the work ethic like he was bogey free up until that part put I was when he showed like the biggest You know most when he had the big fist pump He had a double bogey a little bit later, but that kind of shows you even though I'm head and shoulders above the field. I'm gonna win this tournament

I care about my next shot my next stroke. He's just dumb and it's not like he's Perfectly fundamentally sound he's not like an Adam Scott or like a Rory like you look at that Okay, this is the perfect swing his feet are always different finishes with his hands So a guy that like me who's kind of you know fairly new in the golf and watching him doing and watching doing his way and still be kind of like just himself it's almost like watching Barry Sanders like Barry Sanders he was dominant he did freaky shit on the field every Sunday but he was just he wasn't like speed he wasn't doing all the other things and obviously this is an individual sport so he can win unlike

Barry on those old Lions who had to struggle with some tough teams, but yeah, it's been special special watching Scotty man, it's unbelievable. Yeah, it's good comparison there Barry Sanders I really I never thought of that as you're saying, you know Barry, where's he from? Where's Barry Sanders from? Kansas. What's that? Whereabouts? Wichita. The first stuff. You're really trying to put some sauce

on Wichita. Wichita, yeah. Like a little Spanish. The eye, the first eye hard. Second eye pronounce that thing as an E. Accent. Yeah, Wichita, Kansas is known best. But yeah obviously, Barry Sanders handed the ball back to the official after he touched out.

People still are told that to this day. It's like watching Scottie Schaeffler. Will he be like this for 20 years? Possibly. And you talked about his swing being new to golf. Everything they tell you, you're not supposed to do. Hey, those feet need to remain the same. Those feet need to stay there. Somehow Scottie's been able to dance,

obviously not in his irons, but in the driver, in the tee box, he does the hokey putt. That's some bitches. Right foot in, left foot in, both feet out. Bombs. Jumping. So it's like, obviously you got to find your swing. Every time you see that target. Boom, the triangle, the little triangle. Hey, this is where you need to aim. It's like they were golfing in Pittsburgh. Third tree over, this is where you need to hit it. And then all of a sudden Scottie's balls is to and then oh wait is it gonna come back of course it is Like a magnet guys unbelievable all right congrats to Scotty also congrats to all the NFL teams That are currently showing up at training camp tell me we don't have time to break it all down How many teams are currently already checked in the camp so the Chargers Alliance already in camp they're playing in the Hall of Fame game They've been there and then today the Chiefgers and Lions are already in camp. They're playing in the Hall of Fame game. They've been there. And then today the Chiefs and Cowboys report.

22 teams report tomorrow. And then two more report on Wednesday. Steelers being one of those. Okay, so I think it's 26 tomorrow. Or sorry, 26. Yeah, 26 tomorrow, two today, two yesterday, or whatever the Lions and Chargers reported. And then two on Wednesday.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from a golf course, I do believe. A Michigan man, senior NFL insider a golf course, I do believe. A Michigan man, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. How's it going over there? You guys hit it like Schefter. I'm Adam Schepler today and I will say you were talking about Scottie Schepler before. Pat, you know Jimmy Sexton, the superpower agent who represents athlete coaches in college football, correct?

Yes sir. Superpower agent who represents after coaches in college football, correct? Yes, sir Yeah, do you know who Jimmy Sexton some Parkers college roommate was? Of course, he's just gaudy. I guess it would be Scotty there Scotty at Texas and I like to teach Jimmy all the time that you can represent you can represent all these college coaches You can represent some of the biggest players in the NFL But you had the greatest money-making prospect within your grasp as you were grooming through, Texas He was sleeping at your house, and you didn't even get him as a client. That's a big whiff Jimmy sex and rarely misses Jimmy sex in an absolute beast a weapon the fact that obviously that me everybody's connect It feels like is let's talk about that. Shout out to Jimmy Sexxon and his boy and

Scott Scheffler. How is that networking event up there just billionaires walking around everywhere at that Michigan golf outing that you're currently at? This is a fundraiser for Michigan and so we've got the Michigan football program today and it was very nice because it was very opportune. The last time I believe I spoke to you I was at Oakmont playing with Wink Martindale and when I got home from Oakmont after my flight was cancelled and I had a drive Seven and a half hours from Pittsburgh to New York After I got home and went to go play golf that week. I realized that my five wood wasn't in the bag

They left it behind it turned out it was in Wink's bag But Wink left his clubs in Baltimore and went to Florida for three weeks. So Wink conveniently returned my five wood to me today and the five wood has been glorious so far, Pat. That's amazing. I assume you hit that five wood, what, 155, 160? Maybe you're giving me credit that I don't deserve. Maybe 125. I'm joking. I'm joking. Happy you're joining us. that I don't deserve maybe 125 Happy you're joining us. Thank you for joining us. Tell your partners there. We apologize for the interruption Let's talk a little NFL news. Shall we TJ watt gets his deal done 41 million per three years

123 108 fully guaranteed Every insider every Pittsburgh person was like this deals getting done. This is a no brainer. He held out of mandatory minicamp. I thought that was a big deal. I thought to myself, maybe this is uglier than we thought beforehand. How did this deal end up getting done? And three years, 123, was this the number it was always going to be for TJ? Well, I think the issue really when they were sitting down and talking was length. I think the Steelers would have preferred a shorter term deal and TJ

Watt would have wanted a longer term deal. And they always were going to resign them as we talked about. The fact of the matter was, I think it's very convenient for a lot of these guys to take a stand in that mandatory mini camp going in, whether it was TJ Watt or Trey Hendrickson, or Terry McClure, or some of the players who didn't show up and incurred over $107,000 of fines that is collected and mandated by the collective bargaining agreement.

You basically say, okay, I'm going to make a $107,000 statement to my team that I'm not happy with where the talks are at. And as you go into the summer, if you're getting the deal that TJ Watt gets done eventually, what is $107,000? Even at the end, the agent can say, hey, I need you to throw in $107,000 more to cover the fines. And it was pretty incredible

because TJ Watt has 108 sacks in his career and the guaranteed money was $108 million. And I asked, was that coincidental? Did we not, they didn't even realize it. So that was by- Oh, so you actually presented that piece of information. So this is good. Did you guys do this on purpose?

108 sacks, 108 million guaranteed? That's cute. And they didn't realize it until it was raised. That was exactly how it matched up his career sacks and the guaranteed money. But what's 107,,000 on 108 million guaranteed? You're not talking about anything. And that's why TGI can make that statement,

even though they were just really far apart, disagreeing on the length of the contract. So I think he would have wanted four years. I think they would have liked two years. They compromised, met at three, and there's the deal right there for 123 million with 108 guaranteed. That's a sick graphic out of D-Bone. Payday for TJ was sitting right there, but I do appreciate

payday for a wall. Yikes. You know what's very interesting about this to me is that to me was probably the last big move in a Steelers off season that was probably unlike any Steelers offseason in recent memory. You think about all the moves that they made. This is usually a conservative franchise, laid back, relaxed, not very aggressive. And here's an offseason where they go and they trade for DK Metcalf. They sign Aaron Rodgers. They trade for Jalen Ramsey.

They trade for John Newt Smith. They trade away Minka Fitzpatrick. And then they signed TJ Watts to the richest deal that's a non quarterback deal in NFL history and it gets I mean that was I said it before these are not your father's Steelers and they did not operate that way and I think they're tired of losing six straight playoff games and are being very aggressive to try to do something to snap that streak and make sure that it doesn't repeat itself. Well, yeah, my father knows that Bill Carr could have built the boys up no matter what the roster was.

You know, that is what Bill Carr. But my father and my father's friends would say, yeah, it's about time we try to win some fucking games. Like, I think that all of Pittsburgh is pumped about this but expectations now are only one thing here we go Steelers here we go Pittsburgh's gotta go to Super Bowl there they go good luck boys Congrats to Con2 getting all those deals done we are very proud of them speak about another deal especially for a pass rusher, George Karlaftas gets his deal done. Congratulations to him. Obviously, the Chiefs have been making moves.

Quarterback tacklers have gotten paid. Obviously, in this world that we're in, disrupting the quarterback is a massive ordeal. A lot of people are saying you need four number one overall type picks on the D-line. D-line seemingly becoming a place of interest for all teams. Not that it hasn't been in the past but a lot more money going there. Carl Aftis is a beast. Seven sacks in the last two post seasons, which is all seven games, most in the NFL. 23 pressure, seven games, most in the NFL. 15

quarterbacks hit, seven games, most in the NFL. So this guy whenever the lights are the brightest shows up, he gets paid now. Let's move to another Quarterback tackler that is obviously sitting on deck. Go ahead D bud Yeah, we got a leap past rush out in Dallas. Michael Parsons set to play on his fifth year option I believe it's around 24 million and with these new deals get done miles gear now TJ getting his done What's the latest with Micah? The Cowboys are slow playing it again. Surprise, surprise. And they had not been in any rush.

Now Micah is going to go to camp and Micah is going to be there and Micah is going to do what Micah does. But I could tell you that going into camp the two sides, we're not very close to a deal and I don't think the Dallas Cowboys have been overly aggressive about getting a deal done. There have not been very many conversations and I still think that everybody believes that at some point this deal is gonna get done. But if we go back to last off season as a roadmap, CD Lamb got done I believe late in August,

Dak Prescott got done on the opening day of the NFL season and we'll see when they can get something done with CD Lamb, with Micah Parsons who they wanna get done, obviously. But it doesn't sound like it's on a fast track right now. Now that can change. And I do think that when they get a deal done with him, it's going to make him the richest defensive player in NFL history.

It'll be the richest non-quarterback deal in NFL history. But again, not close right now. And we'll see if they can find a way to get there this summer as they have in the past With some of their other premier players. Well, it gets a 1000% weight on TJ. No questions asked But waiting on TJ wait on TJ That's fine, but but the Cowboys have not exactly been pushing the envelope either Pat and we'll see even very slow about this I respect Jerry Jones and his business acumen. I do personally. I love it. Ever since I watched him on that Joe Buck interview show where he said something along the lines of there's

people that are 230 yards out from the green, a par 5, it's going to be their second shot and there's a little bit of water and they lay it up and then they try to get a birdie. He said I'm standing over that ball and I'm going for the green every fucking time and then he talked about how he went all in for the Dallas Cowboys and he talked about how he always goes all in for all of his businesses and then you watch him lead the most valuable franchise in the world basically you think to yourself wow this guy great businessman then you watch the way some of his contracts get handled it's like Jer if you were to get these done a little bit earlier This wouldn't be as big CD obviously massive Dak Prescott

He was like two years late on that deal for it to be as big as it was he always gets it done Always takes care of his guys, but it always comes at some sort of significant cost which led to one of my favorite quotes I've ever heard which he said anything I've ever loved or has become very good for me people have told me I've overpaid for It's like got an excuse for it. I love it. But we all just know Mike's deal is gonna get done. Even if he gets hurt, even if he doesn't play well, we all assume the deal is gonna get done.

And now it's just like, when, I guess, when? Maybe it's after a Cowboys loss happens. Cowboys loss happens like week six, what happens? Boom! Congratulations, Michael Parsons just signed for $42 million a year on a four-year deal It's like we all know it's gonna happen Jer. We all know it's gonna happen Yeah, might as well just get it done like a Chris Jones situation with the Chiefs where they open up week one

He's up in the suite. He's up in the suite chiefs end up losing to the Lions David Montgomery runs all over him And then what next with the week after two weeks after that, Chris Jones gets paid $90 million? Yeah, it's gonna happen. And the market's been set. Miles, TJ, Micah's gonna expect the same exact thing, Mulligat is gonna do it. Okay, we know we're taking up your time. Let's continue to roll around the NFL quickly. Tone has a question speaking to the Lions.

Yeah, Shepty, it feels like New Year, same situation potentially for the Lions. Levi Ozorike comes, shows up for camp, and then we get year, same situation potentially for the Lions. Levi Ozorike comes shows up for camp and then, you know, we get reported that he's out for the season with an ACL. Dan Campbell actually had this to say. All right, let me start with Levi. Levi is out for the year. All right, Levi's surgery was, you know, it was significant, but it needed to be done. You know, out of his control, and it needed to be done. And so he will miss the season. So, Shafty, we were talking about like,

the wording there from the MCDC was like a little weird. Did he show up with an ACL injury? Did it happen in the first day of practice? What happened there for the Lions? I, look, he's missed parts of the last three seasons with injuries. He had the injury last year and from the sounds of that without knowing it sounds like they went in there and the damage was greater than they anticipated and he's going to miss extensive time. I don't know whether there was more damage than just the ACL or what the situation was. But obviously it was a significant injury that's not going to allow him to play the season.

It's the third straight year that he's missing time. You just hate to hear it. You could see how emotional Dan Campbell was about that. And he's been a great player when he could stay healthy. And that's what's frustrating and disappointing because you want somebody like that out there. And now they have another setback. I don't know whether he aggravated or just so extensive the first time he did it that when they did the surgery it was more than they thought. Okay so he said it was out of his control. Was

there a previous surgery that was maybe not completed? Why would the out of his control line happen? I don't. Well I think sometimes they I'm guessing I'd have to make another call but I think they go in there and sometimes the damage is just greater than you'd ever imagine. It was, it's more significant. And that looks like it was the case here. Um, but I can't answer that definitively because I do not know that. Okay. Well we would like to let old Cusnoke, Godspeed brother. Sorry this happened. And for the Lions, that's only one thing that's kind of happening. Go ahead, Tom.

Yeah, we have a list of things for the Lions here. Obviously, Alyn McNeil is out until November with an ACL injury from last year. Aiden Hutchins returning back from his leg surgery. Malcolm Rodriguez tore his ACL on Thanksgiving. Frank Knott, right now retired. Zeitler goes in free agency, and then both coordinators are gone. Geez. It's a list of things the Lions have to worry about.

Geez. You're up there at that Michigan alum golf outing. Aside from both the coordinators, they lost eight assistant coaches in all. Eight. So that is the coaching staff that got raided. We're not going to panic, okay? We still have MCDC and Jared golf. We are not going to panic.

You're up there at that Michigan golf outing. Probably a lot of Lions fans around there. How's the temperature on the Lions this year? The NF North has not got worse? No, it certainly has no It's it could be as tough a division as there isn't in football. It's gonna be loaded. Every team is gonna be tough We have the Lions have a really good team There are a lot of people believe that they're just gonna continue on Johnny Morton is gonna take over on the offensive side and do great things. Calvin Shepard on the defense side can do great things. But there's no way that you could lose that amount of coaching brain power and

think it's not going to impact you. Agreed, plus with all those players that are already injured, last year that was kind of their problem. But I have faith in MCDC to get them both out and I have faith in Shep. Hell yeah, I mean look what the Eagles did. Yeah, took them a year. Took them a little bit. I mean look at the Eagles. The Eagles did it. Yeah, it took them a year. It took them a little bit.

They lost coordinators every year. It took them a little bit. And they have a top ten quarterback just like Detroit does. We're not going to get into that. We're not going to get into that. I enjoy people going crazy. Hey, before we ask you another question, are you going to golf? What's going on?

Are you guys in the middle of your round or what's going on? They just played a hole without me because it's a best ball. Did we party that or record it? Yeah, they just informed me that we par because I didn't get the fun Okay, so um, is eisenberg a player or no Yeah, yeah, he's good, but he's been gone for three weeks. He's been you know touring the world My friend steven eisenberg has and so he's blaming it on being in a bad a country comes back He shot an 81 at Oakmont 41 on the front nine 41 and he's done his in a shot yet today

Was he at Bezos wedding was he over there Bezos wedding? You're Jeff Bezos is wedding. Is that where you were? Were you at Jeff Bezos' wedding? Is that where you were? No. No. Eisenberg could be though. We just looked him up. He's the president of Ken Wall Steel Corp. up there in Dearborn, Michigan. Okay. Steve A.! Steve A.! Great! Hey! Guys, just stick what he wants to be!

Guys, stick what he wants to be! Alright. Hey! Hey! Stay away from concerts just in general pal. All right Hey, Pat, I'll also say this being that we started on agent work and we're gonna end on agent work here All I know is that I fool and I was supposed to do a post round Roundtable with Desmond Howard and Kirk Hurd Street Talking all about Michigan football because her B son goes to Michigan Herbie's come over to the right side. It's great to see he's now a Michigan fan. We love to see him being part of the Michigan family. I was gonna do this thing. I showed up today because I was told Desmond Howard's here, Kirk Herb Street's here.

And I'm gonna be doing this discussion with them, the three of us. I get here and Kirk Herb Street is not here. He's shooting a dog food commercial and then last I checked I got four dogs I think Herbie's got one or two I've got more dogs so whoever is representing me is doing a poor job that I'm not included in a dog food commercial with Kirk Herbstreet and they get bet that I came to where he was supposed to be here yeah Yeah, he blew me off. Yeah That's not right who would have thought coonin? Yeah, come on buddy Coonin get to the bottom of it. You need some pet food for this guy

He's got four dogs kirk has four or five dogs as well. Yeah, but kirk has a lot of that. He has a fleet He's a fleet of these they're all the same famous dog in the country Yeah, and peter is also one of them. Maybe need to do a little peterizing of one of your dogs because peter dog yeah i gotta start taking my dogs to sunday countdown the oldest one is 19 and is blind and she can't hear and and she goes to the bathroom everywhere so i don't bring that one i don't yeah i don't think greenie will mind when ella will go to the bathroom all over the studio on sund. It's fine. I don't think so. Greeny's fine with it. It's not going to be on his red bottoms. Hey, um, real quick.

Didn't PFT had his dog breaking news, right? Yeah. PFT had his dog rest in peace, I think, breaking news for a while. Leroy. Yeah, Leroy. I think Leroy rest in peace, I believe. Leroy was a real news hound. Yes.

Yes, he was. I agree. That is the case. You should think about maybe one of your dogs becoming an insider then you get to Pete cuz Peter's part of game day Yeah, Peter is a part of college game day formally. He's just wherever he he's a part of it You need your dog to start breaking some news then you now we start getting The pet food the dog food maybe not Ella though. Maybe the fresh pets. Yeah, the 19 year old could be a tough sell But hey, maybe maybe that's a good play in the background there. Brady and Apple.

They're about five years old. They're trying for this. Like if Herbie wants to share the spotlight and I have an agent that does his job worth his salt and he gets one of these dog food deals that'd be great. Alright enjoy yourself out there. I think there's a lot of people in that course who'll probably get you a deal. You're the man ladies and gentlemen. I'm Chef. Hey, Herbie.

Blind and deaf. Dude, what are you? You sit here and all of a sudden I need to get... What do you want me, kibbles and bits, dude? I think Herbie might be lying, too. Yeah, I think they already shot the commercial. But there could be another commercial. There was a time last year, middle of college football

season, where it was Friday night maybe. Herbie was in town because his boy was playing high school football. He has since committed to Michigan on scholarship. Congrats to Chase. And that is an interesting dynamic. Herbie's dad, I think, coached at Ohio State. He obviously was Ohio State quarterback captain.

He's on that college game day set, OHIO. And he starts saying some stuff, obviously, about State quarterback captain. He's on that college game They said oh, hi, oh, you know and he starts saying some stuff obviously about Ohio and everybody herby's herby Ohio people get mad at him Then all of a sudden this boy does not get offered a scholarship from Ohio State No, that was good offer scholarship to Michigan His boys worked his ass off and play football his entire life try to create his own path. I got scholarship offer to Michigan Go blue. Yeah, hail the victors, baby. You've been fooled, now, I take it.

And then all of a sudden, Kirk there, you got all of Ohio going, you told him to go there. We know you did. And Kirk's like, no, I actually love Ohio State. Kirk gets emotional talking about Ohio State and what it means to him. His dad, I think his father was coach there a long time. So Chase going to Michigan.

First of all, Chase, we love Chase. Lot of moxie on Chase. Little too much. And I, easy on the love. Okay, I love Chase. I like the kid kinda. What? But I hear what you're saying.

I love Chase. If we were to go around the room, Ty loves. He's a good boy, I love Chase. Ty, Atone, good boy. Good boy. I think I love tone good boy. Good boy He's sweet ball You know, okay. Jumpy also has his dots about love. He likes really know him that well Okay, Nick's never been around to kid. You know, I'll say chase has some takes Everyone's on chase will fire off some takes. Yeah, he's a high schooler

Isaac College obviously, but he's lived a life. You want to know why Herbie's not up there? Because he's going to be chirping for Ball State in a year. Okay. I love Herbie. I do. It's real tough coming in as a quarterback when you're coming in with the number one recruit overall in the entire country. What do you think this is? What do you think? Chase doesn't understand the situation he's walking into? I know he understands the situation and it is sweet Hey, I'm going to Michigan. It's sweet. You know, you know I have to deal with you know a year into college Hey, I'm I'm transferring to Miami of Ohio. Actually, let's go Mac

Chase might end up being a West Virginia boy. He can run big. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Chase can run Exactly. I'm not saying he's gonna leave. I'm you need to watch that's exactly what I'm saying You're starting to do my amy of Ohio the Ohio Bobcat. Yeah, it's you're starting to get too much buddy okay we're big 12 dead dancing too much you know he's dancing too much oh shifter because if I was 19 years old and blind in death I want to get shot in the be so mad. Why? If I'm that dog. I got, my, Valerie, our dog, Pitbull Sharpe, she's like 12 years old right now.

Okay. 12, 13 years old. That makes sense. Yeah, but she's obviously an older dog. And like, just hanging out with her. Quality, I'm talking about quality of life those last five years. Yeah, it's still sweet though.

She has like a bed basically in every room, you know? It's like, it's a really cool thing. When he said 19, I thought to myself, seven more years of Valerie would be wild if that was to happen, especially at this case. But man, those dogs, Valera, I hung out with Val Saturday a little bit late with her. And I gave her a speech basically. I was like, Hey, you've been good dog. Just want to let you know that whenever you need to go, you you have a good one well could you imagine doing for seven years? 19? No! Oh he's he's talked about that dog like he legitimately has to pick it up take it outside every single time it has to go

to the bathroom. Pooping dust that's what I'm saying. That's what they're saying. Pooping probably not happening if I had to get it. Poop is the toughest thing. Just puking poop. It's a lot of energy to poop like Jesus All right, let's uh von Miller has signed with the Washington commanders The Washington whatevers first of all we love von Miller we are Von Miller fans there's a time where von Miller was coming on a show once a week. Yeah, remember that? It was great chit chatting with him He signed an exclusive deal with the place, couldn't join us anymore, which is a bummer, but we still continue

to follow along. Future Hall of Famer, probably future general manager in the NFL. He is now signed with the Washington commanders. Washington commanders obviously in the middle of trying to get a new stadium built in Washington DC. That's potentially going to be put on hold. And we learned that from a truth social post from the president of the United States who said they need to change their name back immediately And uh, i'll tell you what. I don't know if the president has read the tea leaves on the internet or has talked to the Washington fan base. I will say this from a personal Opinion and my own personal research the name commanders at the beginning didn't love it Who are we?

Dock commanders tough name sure The name commanders at the beginning didn't love it. Who are we? Tough name sure Go song couple years later here now After them having some success commander's not a terrible name. Not not a not a horrendous Washington football team didn't think it was a horrendous name. I think if you win anybody will like any name what I will say though for the washington football fans They played here a way game a couple of years ago. They took over a lot of Lucasville Stadium. Okay, they got a big fan base.

She's wild. I didn't see a single Washington commanders piece of merch. What did you see? Anybody. Football team? No, I didn't see that either. There's no WFTs or WTFs. It was all from the days.

When Alex Smith was there Joe Theismann. Yeah It was every piece of merch shirt hat. I mean, I think I saw towels blankets boy and there was like 35,000 scary Terry went off and they're Insane deep touchdown that went in the fourth quarter. We should have beat him. It was an awesome environment. It was electrifying, but there was Washington fans everywhere. All of them had Redskins merch on. All of them, every single person that was there. Now, is that because they are not from there?

So they've been generational fans. Like my dad was a fan, my father's father, my mother's mother was a fan of the team. And this is the only merch that they had. They had not bought the new stuff yet or whatever the case is. I think President Trump knew that there is a contingency of people

that are very much on board with getting back to the Redskins name. With that being said, I think it's gonna take a lot. I think it's gonna take a lot for that to happen. Is the threat of a stadium being stopped from being built enough to change it back? Yep. I think the new ownership group certainly has something

to figure out. That's a bold play. Now obviously there is a former, I believe before he was president, Donald Trump tweeted about this saying the president was president talking about the name of a football team. Yeah, more important things. There are some important things out there. Situations are situational obviously, and you can kind of do this whole number, but I think what people need to realize, especially the people that are very against whatever he says, and if he says something this time that you're against, it's like there is a contingency people on the other side that are very loyal and pumped behind that. And now we find ourselves yet again at a beautiful crossroads of boom! I'm right. No, I'm right. Until'm right until nothing happens all I

know is they need a new stadium bad the poop pipes were bursting so bad all over the place people are damn near dying with rails cracking from fans doing this people are having a drink of beer all of a sudden what's in your beer ah poop and water and urine what's that from the pipe right above me burst yeah boom John took a dump two seconds ago now It's in my beer because this stadium stinks things cracking people potentially falling. This is a massive organization This is the biggest league on earth. This is the most profitable league on earth They were been an embarrassment that stadium has been an embarrassment to the league

we used to see it and think to ourselves is that a Sad MLS stadium they can't be an NFL state that's got the old NFL state right they got a new NFL stadium they moved out of that stadium now the XFL is playing there is that where the DC defenders are playing or no that's where the Washington NFL team is still playing it's like that's an embarrassment can't have that so can have the stadium hold up happen for that for the good of the league for the good of the game But boy feels like if actual politics are getting involved and the president's involved

And there's a lot of on both sides. I think it's a big classic washington dc I don't think anything's happening feels pretty simple to me. It feels like we're playing that stadium for the next 20 years I don't know you wanted you want it you want a new stadium? Go back to one of the most recognized names in NFL history. Yeah clearly that is how one side definitely feels. They can't play in that state like for the and you just said it it is for the next 20 years and we're all going to watch because Jaden Daniels is there. Like this is now becoming a premier place I mean they have Debo Samuel and Terry McLaurin like they have notable notable names and now Jayden Daniels is about 24 So for the next 15 years this team is gonna be on primetime and competing for Super Bowls

They gotta get the stadium down. I gotta get that guy's deal done. Yeah How about how about the ownership being like Terry you want to get your deal done? Do you know we're dealing? You see this post. Yeah, you want truth you want to suffer? This is okay. That's president. You're not on it? No. Okay, we're talking multiple billion. Terry, we're trying. Will you just tell him we can't please? We're trying to get this whole thing done. That's the president. Yeah. Can he veto us getting us a stay dealer? Yeah. Sure can. Yeah, he certainly can. He certainly can make it a lot harder, then there'll be judges and this and then some regional judge will bump up. I've been learning a lot about all this way too much. My algo, especially now because it actually is football related. Yeah. So my algo is like I don't know if you've heard but the time has come. Politics and sports, boom! Here's a write down your feed. Here's everybody that's pissed off about it.

Here's everybody that's pumped about it. Wow, you'll be surprised to hear that these people actually want this. It's like who are that? Well that's pumped about it. Wow, you'll be surprised to hear that these people actually want this. It's like, who are they? Well, that's actually a Native American society, blah, blah, blah. They are against, no, they're for it. Well, I just read that this Native American society's, well. Two separate entities. Which side?

Different. How they ever get anything done? That's exactly why they won't go back. That's what I'm saying. You know, everybody from the top down, they've been doing everything right, you know, and they've got the stadium will get done. I think this is just, you know, just yapping on social media.

I am concerned about what's going on with the NIL potentially limiting them, what they can make. But wherever they play, whatever the team name is, which I think it will be commanders, that guy, those highlights he's been running, that's the guy that needed to keep in the building. Cause I think when he was drafted, it was still the Redskins and he's been dominant

He's been productive year in a year out regardless of who's that quarterback comment just called it Jayden Daniels been there seems to be the face of the franchise should be a guy for the next decade at least you want To get your guy who's been a pillar in the organization In there and standing there comfortable all these wide receivers getting paid all these people are getting paid He should be the first guy on the list to get taken care of before camp they report tomorrow as well so hopefully uh whenever they report 2016 let's go back to the nil thing because that was a big storyline i saw a bunch of headlines i didn't see what was actually said same because this is once again politics meeting sports which is. It's just absolutely great. We love everything about that.

The NIL Commission committee thing, we've talked about how that's impossible. That'll be an impossible feat. Because if somebody presents a deal, an advertising deal from a company, how is a group of people in America, in a capitalist world that we live in, hopefully forever, Jesus, that's a wild thing to think about. But if you're able to make money from a company, how is a group of people allowed to say that it's a worthy deal or not? Like in America, an adult who's allowed to get a deal done gets presented an opportunity from a company to advertise for them and it's worth two million bucks. Then a committee is supposed to say whether or not it meets the window or the criteria of what a deal looks like.

Who says what a deal looks like? This kid just negotiated a better deal than anybody in history. If it's only two posts, if it's a million dollars a post, then this person maybe should be representing United States government negotiations with other countries if that's the case How can you ever turn any of those down? I like what's the purpose of a committee? I don't know how you could say no to anything like I think there's just lawsuits on top of lawsuits So unless there is some like form of Hey, you're allowed to rule

That there is a window in these things which I guess could limit some in it But they they're that committee is a waste of time. I think personally Yeah, unless there's some sort of I don't know. I don't know how you I'm very worried about how they stop all that And by very worried, I mean like the game's gonna be great The players are gonna get paid Rotesquely only some schools are really gonna be able to do it Everybody else is gonna have to catch up and it's like has that always been happening just at a lower level kind of so I'm not worried about the game itself and just like Thank you said it's trained. It's not ruined, but it's like that committee thing. I don't see the purpose

I don't know how that is going to do anything I don't know how because how do you turn down any deal if I was to go to a committee of agents with the deal that I negotiated with ESPN for the licensing fee and these people who I could run circles around at the negotiating table tell me that that's not that's not a lot of deal I'd be very pissed off. Yeah. I would be very pissed off just because you couldn't get this deal doesn't mean that somebody couldn't get this deal and by somebody I got this deal done and this is how this goes. Here are the reasons why I got this deal. And oh yeah, we'll be profitable for the company

very quickly, which is exactly what happened. So I don't know how that committee, I don't know, man. So I think there has to be some sort of something. Like there has to be some sort of something if they're even gonna have that committee. And if they're trying to make it fair, I don't know how you. I don't know how you. In, need it. I don't know.

I don't know how you're in my head. I have a small brain. There's people a lot smarter than me, obviously, but I feel like we've dealt with all the things that are currently being dealt with in this world, whether it's advertising, digital deals, linear stuff, social stuff, all the brands basically that they're working with. We've kind of worked with and know all the people so it's like I Don't know how you I don't know how you get on track. I genuinely don't so if they're trying to make some sort of You know something I guess you could word that as limiting NIL

But I guess until we see we have no idea one is there like the Ryan Williams situation like Ryan Williams Just signed to deal with Nike second player ever second player ever after chador Is it a situation where? You know Alabama's an Under Armour school So if Nike were to offer Ryan Williams like is that the checks and balances type of? Situation where Ryan Williams could have an offer but because his school is an Under Armour place just real quick Whatever the school is what you're gonna be wearing on that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we Real quick, whatever the school is what you're gonna be wearing on that. Yeah. Yeah, we Had a situation like that because kids are getting deals in high school now like these apparel deals and obviously you go to a university They have these huge huge contracts apparel contracts with said company

So off the field though, they'll still be able to do a parent say, you know, you're an adidas guy You go to a Nike school You'll still be able to do adidas signings, do adidas commercials, and things like that. But just like you said, like, it's no going back. Like, you think about the young lady in a Texas Tech who just kind of reset the market. You assume Arch Manning probably resets the market. The young kid we just saw in the flag football game

who has offers from the entire country making one-handed catches, you assume when that guy goes to college, these guys are gonna reset the Marseille. You can't set them back and say, oh, that's not a fair market deal. Yeah, who says? Yeah, it's gonna.

Is TJ Walkett in 41 million a year a fair market deal? I guess because Miles Garrett got that. Well, before Miles got it, who got no book? So it's like, here's the, based on recent guidance issued by the College Sports Commission and stipulations within the house settlement,

the NIL Go Clearing House, overseen by the CSE is rejecting or expected to reject the following types of deals. Deals lacking a valid business purpose. This refers to deals where the entity providing the compensation doesn't offer goods or services to the general public for profit. Two posts on social, okay that's a business purpose. Deals solely designed to funnel money to athletes for school. For example, a collective holding an event or selling merchandise with the primary purpose of raising funds to pay athletes rather than offering goods or services to the public will be rejected so funds have to go to them see can we raise funds that doesn't make

any sense deals that are not within a fair market range of compensation who says what's fair market exactly who's that would be the two posts thing yeah that's what i'm saying like who says that that i don't know i just i feel they're going to have a lot of trouble unless there is some sort of power given to them which is what they would have to get. I think which goes back to what the headline could be. But based on this too, like this committee wasn't the whole point like, Hey, we need consistency.

Cause that's, that's what we're lacking here is there's just no consistency. And it seems like with this type of thing it's the kind of thing where the rules still might change year after year because like if you're gonna do that the fair market range of compensation they need to go through every single player in the NCAA and figure out what that is. Not only NCAA because some of these guys are entertainers they stream as well. Yeah.

They go through streaming. True. I mean social it's like I don't know how you in knee suits are gonna be able to figure it out and how much time to go through all that Take years and years to do that and who's the regulator on what their market is? Like who's the one that regulates what a good fair deal is that double-a football? He's on 75 We can't be giving this guy. Yeah, you're gonna go off ratings on duke. Yeah I don't know they I don't know. They got a lot to work on on this.

This feels like a lot of lawsuits. Yeah, so many. I'm viewing me as an 18-year-old. And once again, I pitched the NFL in a, I think it was an NFLPA meeting or maybe it was a team meeting, I forget what it was. No, it might have been an NFL meeting. I was like, how come the culture allowed to have scratch-offs here in? I'm on have scratch off. How come I'm not allowed to have the Mac few millions scratch off here with the state lottery or whatever. You know, I do.

It's gambling. I'm like, you guys are going to scratch off. How come I'm all like to scratch off? And then next question, I have my own merch deal. I don't want the NFL PA to handle my merch deal. Well, the NFL PA has everybody's merch deal. Well, I'm not joining the NFL PA. They have my merch deal. So I guess technically not, but they already have it. It's like, Nope, I'm not signing up for the NFL PA. So I'm just thinking as somebody who has always been a little bit of a fucking prick whenever it comes to getting money like that is, you know, come from not a lot, not telling a story that not a lot of people have. But I've been getting to the money since like fifth grade selling cigarettes at 50 cents a pop great

business great ROI now great and whenever they catch you with a carton in fifth grade in your backpack they're looking for you to get kicked out of that school forever sure and Sally McVeigh had heard you had to help me so it's like carton carton yeah I was moving dude I was sound nice off camera I was good the plug hindsight terrible human. Yeah, I might be Not important there's no way he's making sure you weren't smoking them, of course So you never get half your own supply obviously understood that but I was around a lot of people that smoke cigs I just figured like okay if you guys are gonna smoke cigs

I might as well at least be able to get a grapefruit and extras here. Yeah a grape juice and extras Yeah, first couple were stolen from friends mom's ashtray Okay, let me go ahead and pluck that she had massive lipstick so I had to cut off the tips It was a shorter filter of it So I was just sold it that way shorter filter shorter stem and then I'm once I saw it was quicker I sold it Yeah, I sold it for I think it was like a half cig for like 50 cents or something like that. And immediately it was like, I gotta get more cigarettes.

So I started finding ashtrays and then I found a guy, a kid, I guess, he's 18 years old. To start supplying me, yeah. I was moving, I was selling to high schoolers. It was not good, I mean, obviously a terrible thing, but if they were gonna smoke cigs regardless, I might as well at least get my grape juice. And then whenever they caught me, it was hell.

I mean, it was, I saw the girl get caught. I remember her name. She was at recess smoking on school property. One of the main rules. Don't do that. Teacher comes around the corner. We have a system. We had a system. Elise, can we obey the rules a little bit? We're not smoking on the elementary school property. Streets going to get real hot. Flicks that thing up. It lands right. She was next to a dumpster. She flicks it up to end of the dumpster doesn't go to the dumpster lands right next door Then obviously I think mr. Gregory caught her mr. Gregory catches her shout miss Gregory He's good guy. He was actually mass-pissed me not get something like jail juvie or anything like that Shut miss Gregory saw her walk in I watched her walk in and I was just like Knew she was snitch. Yeah, and I just stood there

Pat McAfee, please snitch. Yeah. And I just stood there. Pat McAfee police come down the office. Fuck. Here we go. That was a tough walk. That was a bad walk. I thought I was over then. I'd been in some shit obviously. Not a great kid. But that one I thought it was over. They took me in a back room.

Never been in this room. I was just going to immediately deny it. And then they brought my back back in. What do we have here? That feels illegal. Entrapment a little bit. Yeah, I didn't have an attorney to speak to either. Yeah, it was Dr. Piscobie.

He and I had quite a run. He became superintendent of this. I mean, it was, me and Dr. P did not have a great, for good reason, I assume. But my mom went in there and said, aren't we kind of impressed with the business that I give into this guy? My mom very against me normally.

My mom is very much a, we gotta keep this guy humble. That was the first time she's ever really gone to bat for me. Thank God. Certainly she spent it like two weeks or whatever to catch up on all of it, but I stopped moving cigs that day and I'll tell you what, I don't think I've had a grape juice thing. They were so good well just

stocked oh my god that's all I wanted that's how it started those little grape juices everybody's having these things it looks so good better than steel them true bingo I think Sally probably said that at one point to dr. Pascopea your kids selling the juniors in high school right now you need to get them out of here it's like well aren't we kind of impressed he set up a new whole elaborate business I was pretty proud of me. But what I'm saying is how are they gonna turn down my deal? You can't can't do it boss unless there's some Hey, you can't be selling a cigarette for 50 cents says who this guy's buying it. It's a quiet man motherfucker

I got it. He wants it. That's just kind of what happens. Yeah, they set a max They would have to but that's what I'm saying. That would have to come from a some sort of law to empower the committee. Right. Committee is going to have to be empowered by legal, I think. Cause if not, nope, nope, nope. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. ESPN Fantasy Football is more than just a game. It's thousands of stories in the making.

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Sports! Tone comes in hot. That's one half of the hammer. Dad! Cowboys, the toxic table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Love the shirt, just giving a little juice to Tatum, letting them know Doran recovering rehab. I'm still here for you bud. I still got your back. You're still the man even though you're recovering with your Achilles tear. Yeah I saw you at the WNBA skills competition with Tyrese and it made me think about how damn these guys are just the beginning of their rehab and they have so long to go so

you have a little love for Tatum you know he's still one of the best in the league people forget about him. Yeah Tatum is an absolute dog never gets talked about in that fashion ever even though he's already won and everything like that I think Olympics, the way he was treated by Coach Kerr and didn't play much has certainly added into it all. I hope he keeps all the chips on his shoulder through this Achilles recovery and we can't wait to see him back. Tatum, we're pulling for you, bud.

Oh yeah, Jason. Halliburton, we're pulling for you, bud. Yeah, boys. Good luck, boys. On that note, Tyrese Halliburton will be joining us tomorrow. Wow. Hey. Yeah, live in studio.

I think he... Should have saved it. I don't think we've talked to him since it all happened. I don't think he's talked to really anybody since it's all happened. It's been cool to kind of keep up with his entire process here. I can't wait for him to chit chat about his mindset

and who all he's been talking to and how it's all gone. He's been at every single Indiana Fever event, every single WNBA event. If there's an event that he can get to, that he can kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, kick, push and coast, he's way into, he's going. He's looking for, he's not allowed to leave. He's not allowed to leave. So his entire rehab and recovery is all happening here in Indianapolis.

Did he have massive plans for the off season, hopefully after winning a title, after dropping 40 in game seven, after everything like that? Of course, now he's at his house, he's doing recovery, he's at his house, he's doing recovery, and if there's anything happening, anything at all, he would go to the fish or freight games

if they were happening, and he could roll into that thing, because they see him rolling as he's coming in there. He's just trying to break up the monotony of it all, but he's fully focused locked in. He's got a little bit of a shaggy beard. Okay, like that. Oh, like that. Why did you make that face? How bad is his beard?

So he's really becoming part of the- Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Scale of one to ten. How bad is this beard? Is he starting to look like the memes? I don't know. I don't know. He is starting to look like the memes. First thing I said to him.

First thing, you know. That's nine-year-old NFL vet, Daris J. Butler, who lives online. He knows what he's doing. I haven't been on much. He knows a lot. His nickname ain't the moment. It would have been during the Knicks series.

There was a lot of the memes. But anyways, yes, he does kind of look like that. But it feels like his spirits are high. But he understands that the process sucks. You know, like an Achilles recovery sucks. You got to work on all the little muscles in your feet and your calves. You got to build back everything and then whenever you think you're back, you're probably still six months away from being back. It's a, it's an entire mental game as much as it is physical. Can't wait to catch up with him tomorrow. Hopefully we'll get a chance to catch up on how his dad's doing.

Pop should pull up. It's not a bad idea. Hey, pull up too. Pop should pull up. That's not a bad idea. Hey, John, come through, dude. Listen, I had a night with Papa Halliburton. What? It was incredible. And a morning, if you know what I mean.

What? No, that is actually the complete opposite of who he is. That's why I believe he was so mad because somebody said that he cursed somebody out. Somebody said, I don't know who said that. Yannis said that he cursed him out or something like that. This dude has never sworn a day in his life, okay? Talk shit has never sworn.

That's one of those guys. Moxie through the roof. I mean, I've obviously witnessed him, courtside. I've gotten a chance to chat with him a couple of times. Friday night, Gumby and I go to the skills contest. Congrats to Sabrina. Congrats. She wins the three point shooting contest yet again.

Almost beats, or she has in the past, I guess, one other time, but she almost beat Tyrese Halliburton's men's record one more time. 30 is what he got. So he has the men's record, I believe, for the three point shooting contest. Did we know that about Tyrese? Absolutely not.

Until we were at the skills contest, we know that about Tyrese? Absolutely not till we were at skills contest We learned that Sabrina wins again. She just won unconscious for like three of the racks I mean and I was there for it. I got a chance to witness the entirety of it and it was Spectacular their skills contest about an hour long. That's nice. Okay, a lot of skills Packed into a short amount of time. You know, if you happen to show up just a little bit late to this thing You know cuz it's downtown you got to get through traffic a lot of this one of that You know like you're missing a lot of this. Let's say you were to get there about 830 you missed miss half the Let's say you get there by 840, you know cuz you're thinking I got at least our 20 left this thing it's in an arena

840 you know because you're thinking I got at least hour 20 left this thing it's in an arena skills contest they're gonna try to drain every dollar out of it. Yeah well maybe that's the issue. That's what I'm saying that thing was over 915 quick I don't think I've ever been in an event that was that like kind of commercial break kind of it was as a viewer it was pretty it was nice quick in and out now I wonder about families that pay the tickets get it all the way down there. You're like 10 minutes late Yeah, got an hour show then you're able to get out there who cares there was a weekend of stuff But that could be a problem. But yeah, if you got in there late, what magic get there like 855 850 You're only there miss the whole thing. See a trophy presentation. What's that? Yeah, but it's two are

Perfect time. Don't be late show up. Yeah, but if it's a two hour event, you're getting there at the perfect time. Don't be late. Yeah. Yeah, simple. Great. I mean, if you got nothing else going on in your life at all, you could get there right on time for every event that happens all the time. Has any event ever been an hour?

In an arena? I don't think so. Yeah. That had open tickets? I don't think so. I actually, I was dumbfounded. I had never been more impressed and flustered at the same time. When it was over, I was dumbfounded. I, I'd never been more impressed and flustered at the same time. When it was over, I was like, it's over? And I guess

it's over. And I saw everybody getting up and leaving. I'm like, when's the next event? I mean, if you got, is it only the three point contest? If you got Diplo in the ones and twos. Diplo was well received. Yep, yeah, Diplo the EDM order. Now to be clear, Diplo did need to pass the aux to the Stud Buds. I don't know what he was saying. Stud Buds ran Indianapolis. Now I've read numerous times the Stud Buds did call for Caitlin Clark to fix things. You know, hey, the bar's closed at 3 a.m. Somebody call Caitlin Clark.

We're going to keep this thing open. Probably stayed open if I had to guess. But the WNBA here in Indianapolis from we heard streets were buzzing Yeah, we heard places live in WNBA players are calling in Miami. That's great. If you would like to experience Miami Just much more affordable come to Indianapolis That's what WNBA players are saying not me. I'm just telling you what in WNBA players are saying great weekend here in the city Congrats to not Caitlin's team for winning. Correct.

And... She probably didn't show up for anything either. I think Kelsey Plum, personally, was trying to shit talk Sabrina. I hope so. She was on Caitlin's team. I believe Sabrina was on Caitlin's team. So I think she like basically was shit talking her.

I don't think she meant to throw Caitlin Clark under the bus as much. And she did say immediately afterwards, I'm just trying to keep it light here. And it was not taken that way at all. But a lot of people are saying like, hey, come on. Do you know why you're in the city you're in right now? She don't want to come to a t-shirt meeting.

I think we're okay with it. She wore it. But I don't think Kelsey was saying that. She did wear it. Yeah, they all wore that. Yeah, Kelsey don't give a damn anyways. They all shirt it's good point how about them coming out on the court Oh, yeah, all wearing it and then bang the only conversation about the entire weekend. Mm-hmm t-shirts There it is. Let's remember Indianapolis, Miami. That's what they're saying. Joining us now

Ladies and gentlemen a man who does not live in Miami, Indianapolis a man who lives in Ohio He's college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawke. Yeah! What's up, Hawke? Yeah, Diplo was not as well-received as I thought he might be in that situation, huh?

My wife knew of people that were trying to get into Diplo's event. So if that means anything, there was maybe a text or two sent, hey, could you potentially hook up, blah, blah, blah, to get into Diplo's thing. So there was a there was maybe a texture to sent. Hey, could you potentially hook up? Bop bop bop to get into Diplo's thing. So there was we'd like Diplo to know that there was some buzz. High demand. There's a demand. There was some demand in the city for you.

I didn't know anybody in the camp, so I can't. Sure. OK, I've seen Diplo. I think I've seen him. He's like a run. The dude's everywhere. He has a running club like he's he's a Behind him sitting right next to us at a mania. He was 40 people was next. Oh, yeah, you're right Yeah, what's Shetty Billy Billy? Yeah, Diplo was sitting. Yeah Diplo's a rock. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was about Diplo's kind of the man. What's the point song? Just so I know You know one that's like...

So many. That one. I am Diplo. The one with Park McCallum is Diplo. Lonely Long? Lonely Long, yeah. Okay, that's a banger. Okay, I got it.

That whole album has songs similar to that one. He's got a few. I respect that. You heard the one with him and Where are you now? Why you gotta be so that's a banger banger It seems like Diplo's names on it's probably is the one with Dua Lipa on there with the baby Yeah, let's let it go yourself. Is that no is he does have one with the baby Is that no is he does have one with the baby But that dip will come back to tongue it was good dip alone. He's come back to town. All right, let's WMBA was great

AJ my take on it all was they're already losing 40 million. Everybody's talked about it Why not just add an extra 4 million bucks? Give them all $30,000 now they're up over a hundred grand at least that's a respectable amount for a professional league to pay their professional athletes Especially one that has a TV deal AJ now them losing 40 million dollars in profits Everybody's got attacking the players saying hey you guys create a product that isn't like that. It doesn't generate capital It's like okay. What are we spending this money on you know? How could he have 200 million dollars in revenue and then spend 240 million dollars each year and just keep rolling like is there is there never a Who's yeah?

That's what is they got a fight for percentage I would imagine but do we know if there's any other professional sports leagues that are losing as much money like do other sport like Lacrosse yeah We're learning a lot about a lot of things. So it's it's an interesting kind of process here because we've been very lucky that we've been forced to just basically only do business with our show. The only way our business has worked is our show has worked is business. We have to make money for the people

that we're working for. Like that is how I kind of view it and everything. Now we've been very lucky to negotiate a lot of deals. Every time though, I give a road back to how your company profits with us. Now, I don't know how many people are doing that. I assume a lot of agents do that as well. I've never been in there with an agent while that's happening, but that is my, that is my negotiating style.

Hey, here's how this thing goes in my eyes. Here's your road back to your amount of money and plus here's where you can help us. Here's what we think we can bring you. Now all of that ends though with profit, okay? Which is all any of these people care about. Now, granted, if we can make the world a better place, cool. If it's gonna have massive success, cool. But if it's gonna make the world a better place

and have massive success, it's probably gonna, probably gonna- Turn a profit off. Probably gonna profit as well. So for me, from a standpoint as an athlete who actually does negotiations and has been in there with people and generate some capital.

And I think the valuation of the company that I've guided is probably gonna come out here in a little bit and people are gonna be like, holy fuck, maybe this guy isn't the dumbest dipshit in the history of sports media. But with that being said, I think WNBA players making the statement that they did, I appreciate their commitment, I appreciate their passion,

I appreciate their togetherness, like the collective. Everybody was wearing it. Now, how do you get the road back to make that a profitable company? Now, is that just on the players or is that potentially on all the business people to from the league, you know, that are doing their entire what are we spending money on? Is it the same as what the NFL PA? Well, Is it the same as what the NFL PA? Well, age can't have it. Did we have any idea all of this was going kind of going on behind the scenes? Like, did anyone know the magnitude of all this? Like everything happening? So in my head, this is straight out of a let's take advantage of dumb professional athletes. I mean, but we can't, first off, like we can't be turning strip club receipts as business expenses. But we can't first off like we can't be turning strip club receipts as business expenses You think I'm alone in here yeah, right there's another NFL PA exec in here too. Did we talk about the NFL PA in here? Absolutely, we're bettering the NFL PA. This is a meeting is it not? Yeah, certainly expensive charge the dumbass players now I could see how somebody would want to do that especially whenever you just

have an actual war chest of money that is what they call we got to build up the war chest for whenever the CBA negotiations happen because these deals aren't negotiating themselves they up the fees we need more money to get the war chest because these deals aren't negotiating themselves when you guys get fine you need somebody combative we want to hire the best lawyers. You know how we hire the best lawyers? Well, we got to pay them a high per hour rate. How do we get a higher per hour rate?

Well, we need more money from you guys. We go from $20,000 bucks for me to you guys, $22,000. $22,000 you guys, that ain't nothing to worry about it. Where's all this money going? For you. So where's money going? Don't you worry about it. Everybody before you has joined it and look at what the union has done for you in the past roll a video bang

There was rats running around a locker There was E. Coli in the water bottles And then your union Changed the entire NFL and got you guys contracts. Yeah veteran means in rookie means That's because of us and I'm like motherfucker You weren't even alive when that happened You were handing the baton of this entire thing and all I've ever seen you do is try to let the world know that You are the head of the NFL PA now. It's more a Smith have very difficult job

Very difficult job the more Smith being head of the NFL PA. I heard his first speech Look, when were you drafted same? Oh, no rookie symposium a week after we were drafted in Jacksonville, I think No, I think it was San Diego when I went I think it was Jacksonville and we won I think it alternates I think it was Florida. I'm almost pretty sure I saw Gator. We were doing a conditioning test I think it was I think it was in Florida. He gave a speech though. This is the first time I'm hearing any union person's on Beach Gardens Which Florida Florida? Okay okay where's that at on beach like south you know you know where Palm Beach is yeah you know a lot of stuff happened on the yeah did you have a house in West Hollywood AJ hey Jake what's on

actually no never have anyways I went down there this guy gave a full speech about war we're going to war with the NFL and yada yada yada we need this and gave a bunch of quotes and all this shit and I'm like man I didn't know that's how like the best business was done it's just like I'm going to punch somebody in the face and it's like well I guess they feel that way as well inevitably lockout happens they beat us in a negotiation Jeff Saturday allegedly has to come in get the deal done well how'd the deal go well it just got done you know owners win yet again they're going to be in the cities long after done. Well, how'd the deal go? Well, it just got done, you know, owners win yet again. They're going to be in the cities long after the players are.

They're going to be billionaires long after these players go broke. They have all the leverage we lose. It's like, shouldn't we try to just like do business with these people? Shouldn't we try to like, you know, we need each other. We need each other. Absolutely. And there has to be other avenues to create money other than just your negotiations with the NFL. Well, we have licensing agreements with fanatics.

Oh, how much do the players make? Oh, 30 cents a t-shirt. Oh, great deal. That's a fucking great deal. Good shirts. Way to really negotiate that entire thing. Hey, I need your help. I'm getting drug tested a max amount of times every single month for 27 straight months

because I think this guy hates me because he thinks I'm lying. Yes, I'm hunting for Bigfoot in Georgia. Yes, I'm hunting for Gators in Florida. Yes, I'm hunting for ghosts in Louisiana. I'm tired of this guy testing me everywhere he goes. He thinks I'm hiding, but I'm here every single time. Can you guys help me? We'll call you back. Two years later, I got a call back. You good, bro? No, I just took 230 tests in 27 months. Feels like I was getting targeted a bit, but I won't let you know. I piss clean every single time and I don't need your help anymore.

I have a bad relationship with the NFL PA always have and when they hired this Lloyd Howe guy I think to myself this guy's in the middle of a fraud case right now His previous company was in the middle of the biggest I think payout in the history of something 350-some million he was the finance guy for this thing that was happening. They're like, yeah, but we like that We like that. He was doing that so it's like I think the signs were there You know, I think the signs were there that this potentially was not gonna work out well, but is it ever gonna work out? Well, that's kind of my question in the entire because immediate responses. We need this guy that's been in here for 30 years. It's like I Don't think so. I

Think you need somebody That is never the guy to do it and it was mentioned this morning. There's one dude for this job I to do it, and it was mentioned this morning, there's one dude for this job, perfect dude for this job. And I don't think, now granted, this is me like lobbying for him, I guess. I'm sure there's other good people out there. But this guy, he's dealt with crisis management before, that was his actual job.

He was a former player, actual job at one point, career, long career. And then he ran a team, was the president of a team. Jason Wright, Jay Wright is the right guy for this job I think for the NFL PA crisis management ran a team had to create businesses had to do his thing and he was a player at the same time it's like feels like he's the right guy for the game but I have no idea how much you pay at that job if I look at the Maury Smith he had six different suits at one Super Bowl day that I saw him at imagine what the next

day was and how the whole thing goes but it's a wild situation with the NFL PA age legit It's a wild situation with JC Treder to JC Treder resigning So I played with JC for a year in Green Bay And then the fact that he has to resign because of all of this I just I guess I didn't know how how I don't know confusing and how Unorganized and how messed up the whole PA was until all this stuff You didn't know that I knew I knew the PA was not I was not a gigantic fan of the PA ever I never said it was like smoothly run or hey, everything's going well

I just didn't know it was this like I didn't know is this much in disarray. I guess When did they decide to delay the player performance bonuses? I forget what year that was We're gonna delay these bonuses to build the war chest, right? Yeah, we're going to save these and we're going to delay. We're going to pay you in two years or whatever. I was like, where's my money? That's a lot of money. Where who's making the interest on that? Who gets that interest? Who's using this? Who's Oh, we're just keeping it away for you for a later day. It's like, well, I don't want it today. I need it. I'm about to go buy a Dairy Queen. I'm about to go buy a Dairy Queen. I'm about to go buy a Franchard. A Dairy Queen Franchard. Go to Montreal. And

that's what I'm going to do. So it's just, I never saw the business the same way they did, let alone them having their meetings in Hawaii. Remember that? Oh yeah, we're going to have four seasons. Where at? Oahu. For what? NFLPA meetings? Two weeks. Who's paying for that? We're making the players better. That's not silly. You are. I can't, I just couldn't, I just, all of it, I'm sure there's good people in there. I'm sure there's good people in there.

And somebody within the NFLPA had to point that this shit was happening. So that gives me hope that at least there's some people in there. But man, I think a new vision would be a good idea. Yeah. I mean, it's a tough job. So I am. And Torsese by the way. First of all.

Yeah. First of all, it's a great restaurant. Good food, good food, overnight food. Yeah. You're making like four or five, $6 million. You don't need to turn in a $700 receipt for a car ride though. We know that. They were there all night.

It's not a car ride. Well, you think his family wanted to see those? Two VIP rooms. Absolutely not. Two VIP rooms. Eight hours. What happens back there? Extra crepe roulette.

What do they have back there? They might have a spread of food like fucking JJ wanted. Did you see that post, JJ? Is that his cheat meal? You think he was acting like that? You think this was... Oh, I stayed overnight. Breakfast.

I never had a chance to oh maybe this is in the back maybe this will Lloyd how was looking at the good drinking all that liquid and all the syrup all that down himself badlands Booker was actually eating breakfast with him too call JJ that's not it's not just him it better hey is he not that's like that'll put his on ladies and gentlemen joining us now JJ Watt Sweet what's happening? Sorry, what's happening? You tell me dude. We uh, hey Real quick. You don't know what

breakfast is that's apparently what's happening no okay was you were kind of eluding by the way the hair was great yeah go back I did not expect the hair you were were you eluding that being a cheat meal what what this was your meal this like a Dwayne Johnson type cheat meal type just got done with Moana now we're doing this type is that what you're doing here because that's how I took it. I was alluding to nothing I was just proud of the breakfast I made for a little family gathering my dad and I put it together out on the Blackstone and uh I was just proud of it it looked good no illusions no nothing just I mean that that French

toast down there that's some cinnamon swirl french toast I mean eggs were straight off the ground a lot of people saying eggs had to be cold eggs those eggs were straight off the griddle hot fresh ready okay so how many people ate this six adults or yeah six adults okay okay kids that's great yeah hey congratulations on making a great breakfast because the way I read that was that'll play yeah I apologize I mean five slices for myself on the French toast alone no no big deal you made it yourself enjoy it chef what congrats on a span yes the PA combo I heard there was a PA combo going on.

Yeah, so you're that's how we got to your breakfast here actually. We thought Lloyd Howe potentially in the back down there at Tootsie's got two of those spreads. That's where all this money was coming from especially because he stayed overnight. Little early bird gets the worm down there at Tootsie's. Lloyd Howe says Give me the JJ Watt cinnamon swirl French toast egg spread down there at Tootsies. Yeah. Disarray is a bit of an understatement. AJ said he wasn't the biggest fan of the NFLPA throughout his career but he was surprised about how ridiculous this all is. I think that's probably an accurate way to depict it. How do you feel, Jage? Yeah, I mean I have a similar thought. I mean, the PA is an extremely difficult job because you're trying to get the

entire National Football League on the same page fighting towards the same cause. And you have to remember the hardest part of it all is that it's 3.3 years or less. That's the average NFL career. So most of these guys are in the league for three years or less. They do not care about long-term goals of the PA. They don't care about long-term objectives. We want to play and we want to get paid. And that's how I was as a rookie. I came in during the lockout and they kept talking about all the big picture things and everything. And I was like, guys, I don't care. I just want to play. I ended my pay. Trent Williams got drafted in the same slot the year before me. Got a lot more money than I did. I didn't care. I was like, put me on the field and let me play. As I

went in my career and as I saw how this business works, I started to understand, oh, there is a whole lot you should be fighting for here. And there's a whole lot that we could do if we all banded together and decided to use our leverage. But I understand why we don't because like I said, I was in that spot. So the number one objective of whoever's going to lead this thing next, which is a near impossible objective is to get every single player on the same page understand that you're fighting for percentages of multi billions and billions of dollars, not for little practice things, not for these little

things in the off season in the OTA days you need to get everybody on the same page and stand together to fight for one massive goal but it's extremely hard to do because guys just want to be on the field and getting the paychecks brother team on me team on three one two three that's what we need judge that's what we need 196 areage. That's what we need. 1696. Are you gonna lead it? And plus also the bubble probably. Are you gonna lead it? Should.

I know. Cause I literally don't know if somebody can do it because you're fighting against guys' dreams. You're fighting against everything they've worked their whole life for. So you got all these rookies and all these first and second year guys that have dreamt about this moment

and you're trying to get them to stop it. You're trying to get them to say, no, I don't need to play right now. This is a bigger thing. And it's really, really hard to do. You've been to those meetings. You schedule the meeting for Wednesday after practice at the end of a long day and it's four or 5pm and you've been working your ass off. Everybody's bolting out of the building. They're not sitting there listening to the PA guy talk about the 401k plan, everybody wants gone. Yeah I actually didn't sign up for the NFLPA the last two years of my career because I didn't want to sit in those meetings.

Because I felt obligated to say something, everybody's tired. I'm the one, I don't need to be the one holding up this entire meeting. Everything he says is bullshit. Do you have any questions? I don't. I hate that I'm here. And then I just, I stopped going. So I stopped signing up for it.

And I missed out on a Madden check or two. But at the end of the day, I feel like I wanted to be a part of it. Cause it can be special. You talk about how much leverage they have. Think about all the businesses. And I put this in my very long tweet post about it. Think about how many businesses want to do business

with the NFL. It's like the players association should be operating as an agency for players getting more money. Money, protection, opportunities. That is all we're looking for here for the players. Money, protection, and opportunities. You should be able to act and get deals done. And you should be able to. Jason writes the right cap for it. Alright, Jage, we appreciate you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on.

Big family. Yeah. Me, you, Derek, Teage, Omar, Coach T, the Roonies, we did it, brother. Congratulations! We got it, guys. Wow. How do we feel?

How do we feel? Come on, how's Teage feel? How do we feel? Come on, give it to me About about the New Jersey's those are They're better than the bubble. They're better than the bubble bees. Okay. Let's go to the 1933. That's what jerseys look like All right. I hate them. Let's go to the next one. That is cool. How do we feel? We got it done, huh? Stage feel Happy for man one One helmet guy.

He's excited. He's extremely excited. It's a very rare thing in today's NFL. So it's really special. He's earned it. He deserves it and couldn't be more proud for him. Did you see how jacked he looked? His right arm.

Has he gained weight? He looks huge. He looks very jacked. Did he change anything, Jage? I mean, he's in a great spot. I know he feels extremely good. He looks huge. He looks very Jack. Did he change anything to change? I mean, he's in a great spot. I know he's I know he feels extremely good. He's been training What the hell's hanging off his right shoulder? Yeah, he's doing he's he's in a good spot he's really excited about camp he's looking forward to being back to the boys It's gonna be great

Herb is awesome. Great Moxie. The guy that's with TJ and his perfect straight her underrated her big very underrated. I hope her big has a massive year so that the world gets to know him a little bit better. He's a dog. TJ though looks unbelievable. Unbelievable. Congrats your entire family. I'm happy to hear that wasn't just a cheat meal for you. That was for the whole group and congrats on Espanol Congrats on Espanol. Did he learn to speak it? I'm bit poo. I

Am I'm looking I'm working on my Catalan and Spanish. We got it We got a dual language going on and I'm not fluent in either. So I'm working hard on both of them But yeah, we're very excited about Espanol. It's gonna be a lot of fun Gonna make some trips to Barcelona. We obviously are gonna make A McAfee boys tour. We'll do Barcelona and we'll do Burnley and then we'll swing through the Berg and then yes back home That's actually not that bad. That's so call it to be the beat or killer beast yeah we'll go through Barcelona then to Burnley then to the bird and then we'll come back home you see baby baby quad be that'd be great what this team sucks what are we doing I don't know

what let's go is this way you were the is in Spanish. You were the same Bob Burnley. You were the same Bob Burnley. We're all, don't worry. Vamos Espanol. This is my team now. What league are we in? We're in the Super Duper League over there. La Liga.

La Liga. Same as Real. Same as Real. Same as Real. Same as Barca. Hold on! Hold on! For now.

We're, we're here? Aren't we normally, don't we want to live, don't we want to do this one and then get to here? And then we'll go, you bought, we're here? Hey, hey, you just, you just lead Kankafa, alright? You just, you go to the quarterfinals on a yearly basis and have your trip. Semis. Hey, make sure you're asking for more money from Man City for that goalie of yours. They just got a billion dollar deal from Puma. Puma just gave him all the money and you're not the first person that Gumpi has told that you need to get more money from Puma. He was telling Tyrese Halliburton

that on Friday. Have you seen this? Holding his phone up. You need to renegotiate with Puma immediately. They got a lot of money. Vamos Espinola. That's my team in La Liga, I guess. Is that their catchphrase? Yes. What's their, what's their, what's their? Glad to have you aboard. We'll get some kits over to the boys soon. We got the blue and white in Spain. We got the claret and blue in England. What's the chant? Vamos. Vamos. Working on learning it. Working on learning it. You don't even know the chant. What's their mascots? Is it the clerics too? We are the parakeets.

Parakeets like that? Yeah, parakeets. Send you guys into the mines. What the fuck's a parakeet? Cheep cheep cheep. Not that. That's a little bird. That's a canary I believe.

Same thing. Don't parakeet. Can you teach them to speak? Like Twitter? That's a parakeet? Yeah, kind of. That's just a bird I think. You mean like all birds?

We've got a beautiful stadium over there. We've got a beautiful stadium. I think you mean like what's dead? We got a beautiful stadium over there. I've got a beautiful stadium I think we should try and get an NFL game in an RC de stadium I don't you pay put together a bid you're the owner put that out in the universe put that out in the universe right now Okay, so how many people are in on this? We know dude was perfect was in our Burnley. Yeah, is it same group buying this one? Yeah, same group Alan pace leads the group He's doing a great job for us. He's incredible what he does He bought Burnley and now has purchased

Espanol and we got a great great organization great system. It's a lot of fun. Who's Alan pace Is the head of our group. He does a great job. He runs the day to day of everything Burnley and Espanol. Yeah, but what's he do? Beforehand though, you don't just fall to the position of buying teams for Tyler and JJ Watt. He's a very smart businessman. He's a very smart businessman.

We need his ass at the NFLPA. He needs to stop buying up Espanol. We need his ass over there for the players. All right, we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen JJ Waller Really compliment teach his arms much. No he didn't like that cuz he's I bet you he's probably Which by the way, thank God for the NFLPA I saw that. Yeah.

Which by the way, thank God for the NFLPA. Yep. They did it. They did it. They did it. Why is that guy just like to buy poopy teams in soccer? Yeah, I don't know. Gumpy, you would know this better than us.

I thought if you buy them like Wrexham did, Rob Mack and boys down there at the bottom and then it climbs up, it gains value. Then you try to sell that shit off whenever you go up. Right, that's business plan if you're only looking at as a business as opposed to a team that you love feels like JJ actually like loves Burnley too like very much so you can see him get a little heat whenever we start bringing up how Burnley's doing feels like he's attached to them but business-wise he's

bought both of these teams now when they're at the top leagues that's interesting than what I've ever heard right is that different or no I think with where he bought Espanol they finished 14th in La Liga. So if you make the Conference League or the Europa League in UEFA now, you'll get so much money. And the way La Liga works, there's only kind of the big dog. So if you can get into that top eight, you're getting a shitload of money. Okay. So Alan Pace was like, I got eyes on Espanol. Do they ever play each other? How does this work?

I don't get it. No. They could get in Champions League. They could. Yeah, right. They make it to the very top, they could face each other. Top four in each league, right? Top four, and then there's also Europa League

and Conference League as well. So if you finish like top eight in your league, you'll get into one of those tournaments. And there's a chance Espanol and Burnley are dancing with each other in a JJ waffle. Yeah, if there's a good- I would say more Espanol than Burnley, but yes. Oh, you think Espanyol is ahead of schedule?

Espanyol is a historic team in Spain. They've been around for it. Well, so is Burnley, right? Burnley is like very old. Yeah. Is this kind of JJ's thing? Like, hey, here's a good brand, cool brand. Maybe this is the one that we latch our wagon to. Yeah, Burnley signed Kyle Walker, too, from Menci.

That was a pretty big signing. One of the greatest right backs in England in history. If they do like a top thing. Yeah, they're doing like a meth type thing with Burnley signed Kyle Walker too from Menci. That was a pretty big sign. One of the greatest rate backs in England history. If they do like a top. Yeah, they're doing like a meth type thing with Burnley. Love that. Yeah, which I like an MLS type. Right? Isn't that kind of how they're doing?

They're getting some legends over there. Yeah. Like older legends coming to Burnley. Up the Clarets. OK. I like that. Like Maurice? I like Maurice.

And the jug that Scottie drinks out. I don't know. Scottie probably didn't party last night. He just flew home. I appreciate Maurice and the jug that's got a drink. So very it's got a party last night. Just full of home I appreciate it. He put that thing down he gets it Puts it down goes and gives a speech certainly supposed to hold that while you're giving us without it down I think sitting on a table next to him. He's got hands on hips Yeah Thank you all so much turns out checks his notes his notes. Yeah, fucking hit everybody, obviously. This guy's unbelievable. Is he not?

He's a freak. I guess for him, I just wonder what's going through his mind because I look at him like I looked at Tiger when Tiger was rolling. Of course he's gonna win. Of course the guy doesn't feel any pressure. Of course he's gonna hit the first hole. Like we said, his second shot goes to three feet

and he taps it in for Birdie to start the whole tournament or the whole final day. I don't know. the guy's just not human right now. It's ridiculous It's unconscious, but then he is more human than he's ever been He's like give it more human answers than we've ever heard before from him and giving answers that we've never heard before From the the top of the top You know the way everybody talks about the intensity and everything the way they view it in the mindset you have to have To be great to conquer all these mountains that you have to conquer every single day to become this damn good In this big of a moment. It's like you got to be a real dog. He is a real dog

Yeah, Scotty Scheffler is a psycho. I would like everybody to understand that Scotty Scheffler whenever comes to golf for his entire life has been a psycho about it They had to be had to be to get to this point. And the ability to be able to manage that and still be who he is, I think golf is the perfect sport for that type of attitude obviously. Obviously Tiger was a little bit different.

But like how he's been able to do that, even when he was getting arrested at his tournament, he's the number one player in the world. It's his tournament that he's showing up at basically. He's getting arrested, he's like, where are we? Okay. Just like completely cool. As opposed, imagine if that was, I don't want to start saying everybody's names. Imagine Peyton Manning gets arrested driving to a playoff game outside of the stadium. You think Peyton would be cool with everything, how everything would just go?

Think about Tiger in the same situation having that happen him what he would be like Wayne Gretzky I think maybe coolest goat that we've heard in a long time if he was to get stopped right outside I think that would affect you a little bit. He just no big deal. I'm a stretch in jail actually It's just like obviously he's a very man full of faith and everything like that And he says you know a lot about the Lord and Jesus Christ and everything which I respect and appreciate But here on earth having to deal with all the adversity that he's having to deal with while leaning on that I nothing but a hats off we are lucky to be around while this guy is

around yeah I don't know how long this lasts I have no idea how long seems like maybe forever hopefully he fooled me this weekend I thought you know he was talking all the deep shit because you mentioned you know talk about all the greats Peyton Tom, Tom, Jordan, Tiger Woods, like they weren't speaking on any of this, they just spoke on dominating and killing the opposition. So for him to be having those deep answers going into it, do we have the video?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's go to it. It feels like you work your whole life to celebrate winning a tournament for like a few minutes. It only lasts a few minutes that kind of euphoric feeling. And I like to win the Byron Nelson Championship at home. I literally worked my entire life to become good at golf to have an opportunity to win that tournament. And you win it, you celebrate, get to hug my family, my sisters

there. It's such an amazing moment. And then it's like, okay, now what are we going to eat for dinner? Life goes on. There's traffic outside. Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf yet? I mean, it brings tears to my eyes just to think about. Because it's literally worked my entire life

to become good at the sport. And to have that kind of sense of accomplishment, I think, is a pretty cool feeling. To get to live out your dreams it's very special but at the end of the day it's like I'm not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers I don't I'm not here to inspire somebody else to be the best player in the world because what's the point you know this is not a fulfilling don't do life it's it's fulfilling from the sense of accomplishment but it's not fulfilling from a sense of like the deepest,

you know, places of your heart. You know, there's a lot of people that make it to what they thought was gonna fulfill them in life. And then you get there and all of a sudden you get to number one in the world. And then they're like, what's the point? And you know, I really do believe that because, you know, what is the point?

You're like, why do I wanna win this tournament so bad? That's something that I wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like, showing up at the Masters every year, it's like, why do I want to win this tournament so bad? That's something that I wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like, showing up at the Masters every year, it's like, why do I want to win this golf tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the Open Championship so badly? I don't know. Because if I win, it's going to be awesome for about two minutes.

And then we're going to get to the next week, and it's going to be like, hey, you won two majors this year. How important is it for you to win the FedEx Cup playoffs? And it's just like, we're back here again. So we really do, we work so hard for such little moments and, you know, I'm kind of a sicko. I love putting in the work, I love being able to practice, I love getting out to live out my dreams, but at the end of the day, sometimes I just don't understand the point, you know, because I don't know if I'm making any sense or not, but am I not? It's just one of those deals.

You know, I love the challenge. I love being able to play this game for a living. It's one of the greatest joys of my life, but does it fill the deepest wants and desires of my heart? Absolutely not. What do you find fulfilling? I mean, I love playing golf. I love being able to compete.

I love living out my dreams. I love being a father. I love being able to compete I love living out my dreams I love being a father I love being able to take care of my son I love being able to provide for my family out here playing golf and you know every day when I wake up early to go put in the work you know my wife thanks me for going out and working so hard and when I get home I try and thank her every day for taking care of our son it's just you know that's why I talk about families being my priority because it really is. You know, I'm blessed to be able to come out here and play golf. But if my golf ever started affecting my home life or it ever affected the relationship I have with my wife, with my son,

you know, that's going to be the last day that I play out here for a living. You know, this is not the be all end all. This is not the most important thing in my life. And that's why I wrestle with why is this so important to me because you know I would much rather be a great father than I would be a great golfer you know that at the end of the day that that's what's more important to me. When I sit back at the end of the year and you know I kind of try to reflect on things like having that sense of accomplishment from winning the Masters tournament from winning the PGA championship I have a deep sense of

gratitude and appreciation for it but it's just hard to explain how it doesn't, it just doesn't satisfy, is how I would describe it. It's an unsatisfying venture. And so I guess what I'm trying to say is this is not, this is not the place to look for your satisfaction. This is something that's where you can have a great appreciation for and a great, like a great amount of thankfulness for being able to do this. And it's, I mean, like I said, it's literally one of the most fun things that I can do in my entire life. I love being able to come out here and play golf

and compete, but at the end of the day, it's just not what satisfies me. He says all that before winning the open. He says all that before winning the open, whenever golf is an in-between the years game, more so than any other sport because of, you know, if you miss by that much, it's shank, it's a whole different tournament.

You gotta hit the thing pure every single time to know where you're going. And I am at a much different level than Scottie Scheffler at all things. Being human, it sounds like, being a father, being a husband, he checked all the boxes in there about how, hey, whenever we prioritize what's important at this stage in life. Now, if you were to ask him at 18, okay it's vastly different. Now

he's generated a lot of capital, he understands what's available, he understands what life is. At this stage of my life if you were to ask me what's important it's this and this. Now this being great is an amazing thing and there were some people that took it negatively and that's always going to happen. I think what Scottie Scheffler just incredibly profound. Yeah. I think it was amazing to hear the insight of what it's like to be one of the greatest of all time at something and at a much smaller level whenever I talked to Jim Erce about retiring I told him I was like I thought because I didn't really know how to punt when I got drafted the NFL so my entire chase was like I want to become the best in the

world at this I want to figure out how I can become the best at this the best of this the best of this I want to get better for my team every day, work, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. Every decision I was making was like, am I gonna be a better punter or a worse punter because of this? Can I kick balls further because of this? And then I finally get to the point where I think,

I don't wanna speak out of pocket here, but I think everybody kind of realized that I became the best in the world at my jobs. I was doing multiple, kicking off, punning, and holding, we almost had two perfect seasons. So like, I think all those things, I got to the point where some would consider me the best in the world at it.

And I got up there and I was like, I thought I'd feel different, you know? I thought I'd feel, still, still with diarrhea. Still have traffic. My power still goes out of my house. Plumbing's still an issue. I still have all these problems that I thought were just going to disappear if I became great at it. And I was very confused by that.

I said that to Jim. I was like, that was a tough thing for me to kind of grasp. Because this thing that I was chasing was vastly different whenever I got there than what I thought it was going to be. And Jim immediately, he had a vape. His vape smoke was going out. He could have been a professional cloud vape blower I think. He said he was talking to one of the

Beatles I think was Ringo Starr. He said I was talking to Ringo brother and he said they got all the way up to the top and they stayed up there and at some point you're at the top of the mountain you look around and you go this view isn't as good as it was. Why did I? This view is nowhere near what I thought it was going to be whenever I was puking on the way up here, when I was sacrificing my entire life on the way up here, when I was giving up friendships, when I was giving up moments, I get all the way to the top of the mountain because this is what we're trying to get to and the view is not worth it, just not worth

it. So now what do you do? Well, now you just got to hang out up there and look at something that You almost feel like a regret because this is what you chose to focus on And he said but what the people at the top of the mountain forget Is that there was a time when he couldn't see that view and the view kind of gets lost Behind the mountain and then every once in a while you see a reset people kind of get reset you get dropped back down And then all of a sudden it's like wait a second that view wasn't that bad then you come back and he said it's very Natural in like people's lives. So I wonder if that'll happen for for Scotty inevitably. I'm not saying it's gonna happen anytime soon. Obviously, he's incredible

But inevitably it feels like whenever you get to the top of the mountain You're not always gonna be able to remain fulfilled. You know, it's gonna be a remain set satisfied Everybody has to find something to continue to work for that's why like Nick Saban whenever he wakes up every day Bill Belichick every day that mamba mentality mentality of Kobe, Kobe every day. It's unique. It is a very, very unique thing that I think a lot of people from a lot of different fields struggle with. And I think Scottie's in the middle of it like, I've sacrificed my entire life to be this guy and it's amazing. And then all of a sudden, Bennett just blew up his diaper. Okay, we need some wet wipes here. We need to move on.

I'm still a human. I've loved everything he said. Yeah, it was perfect. And that's why I think a lot of people, you know, find other things like, you know, like, even like ayahuasca. So it's fine, like, okay, what's the true meaning of this? But like, when you have, you know, you have kids and,

you know, you reach all those different pinnacles, whether it's drafted, whether it's signing a hundred million dollar deal or doing whatever it is. And then you realize, okay, there are things that are much more fulfilling, but you rarely hear that from a guy That's entering his prime like dude like 29 like you heard like Kobe guy rest his soul Like he was that guy kind of towards in his career after he was done But it's usually when guys are old and washed up and it's kind of behind them. They're looking back You rarely hear a guy speaking like that when they are at the pinnacle

So I love everything about what he's doing, you know, obviously, you know on the course and then off the course as well I think it's a great message not only to athletes but just to everybody. I think so too an agent you think this is potentially a little Mental game he's playing with himself. I Think it's okay. This ain't that important. Yes for sure I think it's hugely beneficial especially as a golfer because think of I think that frees them up to go out there and play because like what's the worst that can happen? I'd lose this tournament? Cool. I still got my awesome life outside of this and we know golf like look at the stress that these guys are under every single shot. Like say you're a dude that's a stud, but you're trying to get your first major or whatever and you have the lead heading into the last day. You have to sleep on the lead and tee off at 3 p.m. like the mat like just golf is a sport where you have to be free you have to feel like you can you

can let it go and I feel like Scottie because of his mindset because of his perspective it gives like it frees him up he's like hey man like yeah I work my ass off all day every day but I understand this isn't who I am but yeah it's awesome why don't I how about I just become I'll be the best dad and husband and the best golfer in the world let's see how many years I can make that go Well, and Jordan speech saying he's able to turn it off when he goes home and everything like that. That's rare Like this dude's a rare. There's a rare mindset that people at the top half and it might be a mental game You know to minimize golf in his eyes like hey, we already have it all, you know, and the Nike ad was sick

You've already won so dope but another major is nice or whatever it is It's like it it certainly is. That mindset in golf can be a very, you know, weaponizing. That could be a very good one. Knowing that, hey, alternate plans here, go hang out with my kid. That's not a bad little fallback plan. But you talk about the guys trying to make it

and how nerve wracking it all is. There's stats came out, obviously we all saw it. I think we posted in the first hour. That's 10 consecutive Sundays he's had to lead going into the day and he ends up winning only 27 more straight to catch Tiger Woods yeah now he's not even 30 years old so this could happen right Tiger had 37 consecutive Sundays where he woke up with the lead and ended up winning that's unbelievable yeah that's why that red shirt meant something you know know, when that red shirt showed up,

it's like this dude's either catching up because Saturday was moving day. Okay, so we're either catching up or we're taking the lead. And then Sunday, what are we doing? We're watching this jungle cat prowl this grass and mow down everybody. And it was like he did 37 straight times. Scotty only a 10.

Now that's, he's young, so he's going to have to catch up. But it is crazy once you start putting the Tiger records in, it's like if Scottie's able to do this for another 15 years, okay, there's a chance he can catch them, but that's what golf is. Golf is very much like a 50-year-old can play professionally. Even shit, 60-year-olds can play professionally. It's a good sport whenever it comes to that. Yeah, Tiger also had 11 majors at the same age as Scottty is right now. But Tiger, like when we're talking to the men, what? 11 majors? Yeah, Tiger had 11 at 28. But then he had that decade where some things happened

and he didn't like, so Scotty, if Scotty in his 30s, just the driver hit that back window of his SUV. But Tiger men, that glass shattered, hit him in the head. From the driver, he was at a driving range, took the driver back like this. There's a car, like I did with that TV. Yeah. I think that's something like that.

It was years ago. But Tiger mentally, I feel like Tiger's like, Kobe, Jordan, Tom, Peyton, guys that are just wired. Wired to be the greatest of all time. I feel like Scottie's wired like that. And I feel like him trying to get away from golf is better because we've seen runs like this with like Spieth and Rory and Brooks and they were,

they won four or five majors, but then like it did feel like mentally it got to them. And they, I mean, it took Rory 10 more years and Spieth hasn't won again and Brooks hasn't won again. But it does feel like if I'm able to get away I'm gonna admit because everything you just talked about mentally when I heard him give that answer Just like that was out. Yeah, I said, I don't know. I don't know if this weekend's the weekend for him Yeah, feels like he's thinking about too much and then it turns out looking back on it. It's like no

He's thinking about the right things. Yeah, he was thinking about all the right things going in Is he ever gonna lose? I think and like you mentioned it earlier and it's it's no bullshit I think you almost had he almost has to frame it that way because it hasn't been since tiger where if you see him Playing there's an immediate expectation like oh he's gonna win like and and you don't get that with anybody else So it's like you start to feel that pressure It's like hey if I'm in the field like look at the look you you go on any book Like his odds to win are so much better than everyone else's if he's playing in a tournament the expectation is he? Might not go wire to wire, but he is winning this tournament

So like even if you are as good as he is like you could see how that would eventually kind of get to you a little Bit Scotty we appreciate you congrats. you. Congrats. Congrats on the open now. He's a US Open away from the Grand Slam. We assume that'll come at some point this year, this weekend, probably. Yep. Oh. Oh.

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And there were some great highlights, D-Butch. Did you see what the boy from the Bills did? Did you see what the boy from the Bills did? Ladies and gentlemen, Brady Von Schiller to Sean Finnegan to win the game. Bob was the snap. Oh shit, he's down there somewhere. Yes, he is. Sean Finnegan goes up to catch the Hail Mary. Big win for the Bill squad over there at the NFL flag championships. Now there was another highlight right down the sideline. One hand to grab. How you doing? Keep it moving. This is from Jalen Paguero. Give me that.

Fingertip catch. Now a lot of people are saying the gloves are great nowadays. That's not Jalen's fault. No, that is not his fault at all. What a grab. What a snag. What a play. Shout out to Jalen Paguero and then the highlight of the weekend, this dude is going to be a West Virginia Mountaineer. Bryson Wright. Give me that. Of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Liam Cohen is trying to get him on the actual Jacksonville Jaguars. What a catch. Unbelievable. Inverted. Okay. The right hand invert catch is a filthy catch all

by itself if you're standing there playing catch with somebody and you have gloves on or if you're able to do it without gloves the right-handed over top snag will steal the show okay if you do need a good throw to be able to do it but if you do that just playing catch people be like holy shit what a catch that's filthy because the amount of power you have to have in your hands to beat gravity and the force of it throwing and the, the dexterity to find the tip of the ball. Yes, I was very good at this, this one right here, because it was a holding, you know, that thing's right there.

Always looked much better and harder than it actually was once you figure out how to do it, Then to dive over a guy for a touchdown while that kid is being thrown from 50 yards or 20 yards 30 yards away. That's nasty. That is absolutely filthy. This kid's 15, 16 years old. 15, 16 years old. How do I hit the internet? This dude is unbelievable. 6'2". What is he? I saw 6'2", 200 pounds. As a sophomore in high school. 15 years old, already holds offers from LSU Ohio State, Alabama.

And I would like to say shout to Hayes Fawcett, by the way, he does great work over there on three. I would like to say, Bryson Wright, congrats on scholarship offer from West Virginia University. Wow. Official? Yeah, official. Okay.

I don't know if I can do that, I did not ask. Rich Rodriguez, if that was cool coach Rod But I would like to say Bryson you officially have an offer from West Virginia University, brother I have no idea what the NIL thinks gonna be four years from now when you graduate high school or two years from now When he graduated high school, but just know if you won't come to Morton Towne, brother and do a couple of hi Or a couple of those we'd love to have you sophomore in high school. It's how about that Atkinson kid he's going to play high school right now yeah that Atkinson kid that was here how about a Manny over there in Maryland yeah bingo that offensive lineman all these guys that we're watching and some of them

were lucky enough to be a part of their commitments which is such a cool thing these dudes are adults bro and they're handling business like adults off the field as well I have massive respect for this next generation of footballers I saw he led his his football team last year as a freshman in receiving In yards and one of the guy who was in second was a five-star who went to I think Texas or Ohio State or something like that this year. So I thought this kid from Pennsylvania is Yeah, no, he's a mass guy moved down Is he?

Yeah, no, he's a mass guy moved down The mask I moved down to Florida I believe right after I'm ready AJ what I mean think about this is a sophomore in high school that the kids Yeah, right. This kid's gonna be playing its high school kids here in a couple weeks I mean the kid covered him in his route plays left tackle for his local Mandarin in Florida three guys Okay, cover that particular play. They all passed off smart play. Yeah That's right. It's owning flag I mean, yeah if this dude's on the field zone double T whatever the hell you can do But this is I mean, this is unbelievable you talked about these and he's not at this point yet

But these young kids sounding and speaking and carrying themselves like grown ass men we all talked about and expected and everything is blown up about the negative part of the NIL but every young guy that we've kind of come across whether it's Ryder Lyons or Atkinson who was in here like you're talking to them you're having a conversation with them they sound like grown ass men. Twenty five. Well way mature more mature than I was at 17 or 18 years old. It's unbelievable. And then you're making plays like that. That's why the eighth grader scholarship thing, like you, it sounds insane.

And then you see some of these kids and what they can do on a football field or you know on a basketball court, whatever it is. And then it makes sense why these kids get offered 30 scholarships when they're in eighth grade because they are clearly head and shoulders above. Shout out to the NFL flag championship too. Yeah, there's highlights all over the place. A lot of great football happening AJ. Do the boys play yet? And daughters play, they had a girls tournament as well. My daughter wants to play actually, she's big into basketball.

But yeah, she's played a little bit back when she was younger. But I mean, we know girls flag football is becoming huge, but obviously boys as well, this is what they do. There's high school circuits where you travel around and you have these all star teams like you're an AAU team going around playing flag football is becoming huge, but obviously boys as well. This is what they do. Like there's high school circuits where you travel around and you have these all star teams like you're an AAU team going around playing flag football. Great for the game. And the girls high school flag football mission was the Superbowl commercial

that was likely to be a part of. Yeah. I think it has been commissioned in a lot of States. I think it has been made an official ice. That's great for the sport. That's great for a lot of these towns. That's great for obviously a whole generation of girls growing up, you know, watching. And I don't want to like, you know, always make it about Taylor Swift, but like, Taylor Swift has welcomed a lot of people into football, having an opportunity to play football as well at the same time. It's perfect for the sport. And think about what flag football can be, it can be worldwide.

Yeah. Oh, you need some flags. Yep. And a ball. You can hear it like, on the collegiate level. It's in the Olympics already, but you're talking about like, that can really. On the collegiate level, you get scholarships.

Yeah. That'll be a thing. Absolutely. It's not gonna take over tackle football. That's what every old tackle football fan says. That's what Roger Goodell wants to do. No, no, Goodell wants different sports different sports gotta keep those things different we'll continue digitally

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I played three rounds this year. I hadn't played in two years, obviously. But even having the capability. Now, three rounds. I played nine holes. I played 13 holes. And I played 18 holes. Walk the 18 holes, though.

Walked 18? Walked 18. You played great. Was given no other option. Would you? Interesting little. Those nice places tend to do that. No, there was carts. Oh, really the person I was golfing with I was in a car the person I was golfing with you didn't walk now set up the carts

Is that about the person that I was golfing with set up the carts? It was like you guys can use the carts in immediate alpha type move It was awesome. It's like I'll fucking walk. Are you walking? Is that what I just heard? Yes. I'm walking but you guys can use the carts. An immediate alpha type move. It was awesome. And it's like, I'll fucking walk. Are you walking? Is that what I just heard? He goes, yes, I'm walking, but you guys use the cart. I'm like, I'll walk, dude. He goes, you don't have to.

I walk out here, right? Every day. I'm like, I will walk. So I walked, and I'll tell you what, whole six, those blisters really started. You know, all those shoes. I had Jays on too, so, and I've only played three rounds in two years. These things not really, I started getting blisters on the feet about sixth hole or so.

Legs started getting real lactic acid-y around like 13, 14. I mean you're hiking these. Oh yeah. Did you feel one with the court? I did. And I also played better. Okay. And it kept me more locked in.

Okay. I enjoyed it actually. I would like to do that every time I golf. But it wasn't that long of a round. That's the thing. We played it three hours. We played very fast. It was very, very fast. That's the best. It was good though. It was really, it was, I've been playing pretty good golf, AJ. Pretty good golf. You don't move your feet. I tried to be Scottie Scheffler, but can't be, I guess. No, I just can't be Scottie Scheffler. So I've been keeping the feet still, you know, and that's really changed a lot of my game. No. I just can't be Scottie Shaffer. Not everyone can. So I've been keeping the feet still, you know? And that's really changed a lot of my game. Literally all I focus on is don't move your feet.

Cause last time, you know, cause I'm all flexible. I'm not here. Yeah. You know, I'm digging in. You're still coming out of the pocket. I'm ready to do it. What you see is cause I've watched. Are you Kyle Wasala?

Key Wasala. So, so much Key Wasala I've been watching watching I think feel verse real two different things here, but I think just osmosis II Watching Kiwa shallows techniques. Yeah, I think it's starting to you look like it's Kiwa shallow. Yeah. Thank you This one was I take you over Kiwa shallow any day. You're playing on he's a good player Yeah, I would say that have you seen him play. I good player I played hold with him. Yeah, so you know what you know what he has that I don't hammer He could throw it over his shoulder. By the way, this guy hits a golf ball.

I understand. I'm not taking any offense. Unbelievable. But with that being said, he does have a hammer. We can tell by the way he operates. You can tell everything about him. There he is with his hammer, actually. And that's small.

He's actually pretty comfortable with that in his hands to see his real one. In his hands. This guy has helped me out immensely. Just by watching. He should be charging for these videos. Cause that's what I used to do right there. You ever use your hammer like this? Absolutely not. That's not how I swing that thing.

Use your hammer like this, he says. And I get the driver in my hands and then bang, baby draw. Just like he was shallow and Missed. Oh God. See ya. Into the night sky. Perfect, perfect shot and the reason why I didn't put the tracker on is because that green tree line in the back is the perfect background for that ball to fly perfectly out there.

He knows the distance of his clubs. You see I had a lot of that. We're a hundred and seven yards out. I got a 54 in here. I got a W in here. I got a W in here. I got a 60 degree in here. Where the fuck far do these go? No idea.

Let's find out on the course with real shots. So doing a lot of that. Do you hear these? Do you hear it? Couple I thought to myself, yeah, Keegan Brown, I've done this a thousand times. Fucking ear to ear, buddy. And I thought to myself, what does full swing go?

I have no idea. Of course. Ear full swing go? I have no idea. Ear to ear swing, I have no clue. Just gotta play more. Yeah, we don't have, well actually we have had. Yeah, I was gonna say. It's been pretty. The way you played, you should play more. Yeah, and you should play with the caddy every time.

Yeah, Steve was a dog. That was my first time ever playing with a caddy. That was awesome. I loved that experience. Steve was great. Steve was a caddy there. Are we supposed to say the name of the place? I think you can.

Yeah, you definitely could. OK, so we played some places you're not supposed to. No, this isn't that one. Yeah, we should. That's just one place. That's the idea. It was the nicest golf course I've ever played in my life, we should probably say.

Riviera. We played at Riviera over there in, I think, Los Angeles somewhere. Yeah. I have no idea where we were. All I know is everywhere is two hour drive. Santa Monica. I think it was, I think I put it in the GPS.

It's in the Palisades area. Okay. Yes. Beautiful course. Yes. Very, very, very, very nice course. Very nice course. Perfect weather I assume.

Perfect weather. Great sun. I mean, it was a perfect day to be honest out there. A little wind, transfusions. It wasn't busy. Yeah, it was very nice, dude. It was very nice. The dog. And then you it was very nice, dude. It was very nice.

And then you're watching Ari Gold play golf. Oh yeah. Okay. He's playing. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a big one. Oh, is he? I would assume he's very good. Very good. So good. I think par at that course. Yeah. Really? Now, we just never in trouble. Probably never hit any bad shots. I'm guessing he's always's driver, he has this like really patient swing is what I'll call it. Just like up, high, and then boom right through it. 285. Perfect draw with it. Good tempo.

285. Yeah, not a big deal. Mayor tempo time. Yeah, tempo is his thing. I think that would kind of be it. Yes. And then he gets his iron in his hands and it's like, can't have touch this thing. And then he's two-hopping it.

And he's birdie putting basically every hole. And it's just two-putt. It's unbelievable. Because Early wanted to talk shit. He wanted to talk shit to me, he said I didn't know how to put a ball on a tee because there was a breeze that knocked it off. So then I put the ball back on the tee,

he goes, you want me to teach you how to put a ball on a fucking tee? I go, I know how to put a ball on a fucking T. I know how to put a ball in a fucking T and then I fucking nuked one. Great time to nuke one. That was on the first either. So that that held him off for a moment. You know, I told him off. Then he started teaching me how to putt.

But we wanted to talk shit to him. I want to talk shit to him. That's all I want out there for is like I would like to talk shit couldn't motherfucker never he had two bad shots. Like a par three, he like pulled one into the sand and then put it to like four feet. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Couldn't even see him.

I don't think his little fucking head was, I couldn't even see him out there. Ball comes out. He was unbelievable. He was unbelievable. And I thought about it, wow, he does all these meetings, I assume, out there. Oh yeah.

And he just, because he doesn't really talk shit. He doesn't really talk shit about how he's a golf. He just kind of goes about his stuff. Just keeps it moving. He's a good one sir. Yeah exactly. And then all of a sudden you're looking at it like what are you? I'm one under through six.

Like actually dude this guy isn't even like no mulligans just fucking here we go. Stress free. Yeah casual. On the phone. Yep. He's doing Ari gold shit Places like that. They sell dogs at the turn. It was so good. Yeah, we did get some dogs We did juicy Foxy's dog. I eat it the exact same way. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why there's some big ketchup

Narrative going on from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania the home of Heinz. Sure the most delightful in delicious From Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the home of Heinz. Sure. The most delightful. In delicious. Thing, fifty seven flavors on Earth, ingredients put on everything. I heard somebody say, if he says I love fifty seven different somethings, condiments, natural things, condiments is ketchup. I heard somebody say, I love ketchup. I put it on everything. Eggs, put it on chicken, put it on sandwiches,

yada yada yada. And then the person said, I would never put it on my hot dog though, ever. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why would you not? Why do they do that? Yeah, what is it? I don't understand why that's such a big deal.

Why is that such a big deal? I think foodies, people that are foodies claim like, oh, ketchup, oh, you're so basic, you're a loser. That's what it is. How many views on your tweet? I think it was like half a million. I grew up as the strictly ketchup like you guys did, but then once I tried the ketchup and mustard, I assume that's why because it is better with both. Well you could do one, but you should do ketchup. But I did see the outrage strictly about the ketchup which was just so Connor just put foxy into the fire yeah what's ketchup only on hot dog thoughts and then a

beautiful photo of our photo of our h&m model right there just did you know what was happening with this picture I had no clue what he was doing I actually just took this for us because we were having a conversation And then as soon as I looked at the photo Just legit turned around and then he's like hold the hot dog Connor immediately news that goes it's going platinum So I'd say the number one takeaway that everyone was saying is that it's like what five-year-olds do and like I grew up my Entire entire life I had no I thought the most American thing you could do is put ketchup on a hot dog I agree. This was I learned all of this from this tweet. There were so many people calling me a five

It's got to be Chicago people, right? That's it. Just hating against Pittsburgh Yeah, well you guys want your own thing like we got the hot dog and then people from Pittsburgh are like we make it much better Yeah in Chicago's like Propaganda goes more as we just put mustard and relish. We have a Chicago dog. We don't really call out people for having ketchup. I think it was a lot of Chicago people, probably, if I had to guess, coming out front.

For the most part. But that being said, shout out to Chicago people. I got no problem with Chicago people. But I do think just having an argument that something that makes everything better isn't good on a hot dog Just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm from Pittsburgh though. You're an asshole. You put ketchup with your eggs though That's disgusting. See I don't think Absolutely

Ketchup is unbelievable on eggs Are you serious? That is terrible. Dude you order six scrambled eggs with the cheese inside the scrambled now That is terrible. Dude, you order six scrambled eggs with the cheese inside the scrambled. Now, American if available, but some places you go to, they're not gonna have American cheese, which I don't love. Yes, so cheddar is automatically the alternative.

And you say, is cheddar okay? You go, do you have American? It's America. And they say, no, we only have cheddar. You go, that'll do, I guess. And then they put the cheddar in there. Okay, then that thing comes out and you just go ahead and,

you put a big blob of ketchup right there side of it yeah you dip just gross I'm a believer ketchup doesn't belong on breakfast food or buy like homestyle potatoes no hash browns okay you don't do ketchup on hash browns and I love ketchup you're telling me McDonald's hash brown comes in in that little bag thing is so good by itself it doesn't need anything else. It is. That's true. Agreed. You can eat it raw if you'd like.

I'm sure I would love it with ketchup but I've just always had a rule it doesn't belong at the breakfast table. Oh see I like to wake my day up with Heinz. I will put that shit on. I get that. I respect you. Hot sauce. Do you do hot sauce on eggs?

Oh yeah. For sure. I do not. Hot sauce on eggs with ketchup. Ketchup sauce on everything that's available including the dino nugs that my daughter Love if you got some good eggs, they don't need anything It's like a good steak like you don't put well, you know a one sauce Kirk herb street was certainly certainly

Excuse me. Do you got the? Well, he has to though because he orders his steaks medium. Well, if I remember correct, it's him and dogs are you guys? I don't eat you with applesauce. Yeah, right. No. Yeah, it is. Well done. Excuse me. Well well, yeah Hi me Peter Theo Mitch He needs take wall take we get some a one two and also don't tell the chef little ketchup We get some a one two and also don't tell the chef little ketchup Our fries if I have to You'll go fries ketchup. Of course. Yeah, okay, of course on the side. I'm the same way but no What about nugs D? But you did the nugs and ketchup? I hope no no

Sauce my bar. You put a circle of hinds Okay, sir, well heintz good ketchup noise Frank's in the middle of that. Okay, circle of Heinz. Good ketchup noise. Frites in the middle of that. Oh, dump it. Fill up the volcano. Okay, then we, Heinz on top of it. Then you go ahead and take a little fork spoon, whatever, stirring it.

We whipped that thing. Now you got cacha sauce. Welcome to heaven, brother. Now you got those dino nugs going, right down in there, and all the time it's the greatest. Ketchup sauce welcome to heaven brother now you got those dino nugs going That is I sent an email to Heinz I think I was in high school You'd have to ask my dad what year was he found the email for me told him I got an idea I got an idea guys are good not great. We can make you great Ketchup sauce sent it and then like two years, three years later, they had a fucking full line of

we got green ketchup, we got purple ketchup, we got hot sauce ketchup. We got all this. It's like, of course, they thought of it way ahead of me. I was the first person ever think of that. But what I'm saying is I felt like fucking Bobby Floyd whenever I started that. It still holds up, still holds up. Still OK.

You should try it. I try. Sure. they're mayo and ketchup Oh fancy sauce. Oh my god The cabal I'm not I'm not the target audience. I get it. So I'm not jumping in but yeah, yeah, you only anything So I don't need to hear no, I do I just I like like plain stuff I like ketchup on hot dogs for sure hot dog ketchup only Nugs, I'm definitely dipping them in ketchup, but eggs now eggs straight up. Okay. Um That's kind of I mean that's tough to argue. Do you use hot sauce for anything? Uh I do more now the older I get I would say wingy. I'm into hot sauce Yeah, we what yeah, do you know you do plain wings? Don't you know?

I'll get I mean I'll get you know No, I get hot sauce dry rub you do dry rub you say give me a little bit of that local Oh eat them if they're if they're there those are good, but no I want them, you know hot medium to hot Well, we had some little lemon pepper fresh out of Wingstop on a flight. Oh, yeah Dry rub too, right? Yeah, I think I was just playing playing. Yeah, those are so good. They were very good I'm a Frank's guy over all the other hot sauces same Tabasco a little bit too watery I guess every place has their own hot sauce. Give me the Frank's give me the Frank's till I die It always steals the to choose or whatever. They're called not anymore. Who is it? Cholula?

Cholula that was starting like a guy's basement I think if I do recall the Mexican all the great ones are it's good at it. Yeah, it was great Basement I guess for brewing that stuff that had a good run. I think Cholula had a really good run That was during fireball whiskey run to yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, I think if I'm recalling it's been time I think I met mr. Cholula and fireball mr. Fireball mr. Ball think so If my memory might be the same person, I think so was it Cholula whiskey? Well, I'm not sure anyways ketchup deserves and belongs on a goddamn hot dog. Thank you

And I like relish Pat you're gross on the hot dog. I'll do it was that I'm not a relish guy at all I think you're the end relish or not. I'm not into relish. I hate row Yeah, but I would do it if said, okay, you don't remember I went to plunk me Okay, where's the hot dog guy who was an artist? I hope I'm set up his fucking rig every single year no questions. He was great tip About a hamburger though, right? Yeah, cheeseburger. Oh, yeah, I'll catch up on a cheese. Yeah. Yes Catch up on everything. What do you mean? Do you even have? You just have little thin steaks with cheese on top of it. That's what you got. You don't even have a burger anymore

You know, I love I love a cheeseburger by putting ketchup on it. No question. Are you putting in a wrap? Are you putting a lettuce wrap? What are you doing? I'll either eat it on a bun or I'll get like four hamburgers and just put ketchup all over all of them, eat them with a fork. Oh, like a meatloaf. Yeah. That is like a meatloaf. Yeah, meatloaf, I'm not touching meatloaf.

That's disgusting. Well, ketchup on meatloaf, by the way, that's actually one of the main ingredients of meatloaf. You said you're not touching meatloaf? Meatloaf I will not touch. And don't worry, I'm sure you're gonna tell me, oh, my mom or my aunt's is the best ever. Well, congrats, I don't want.

My mom didn't start cooking till recently Is it a little bit of a cheeseburger in shape of a loaf? It's literally what it is. It's like ketchup No, it's a bunch of weird nasty stuff in there. It's just a good Nasty. Yeah, yeah never been a meatloaf guy. Yeah, if it's cooked, right, it's good. No gotta be cooked, right? I've only had it once. Well said. everyone takes so much pride in their own meatloaf No, you got to try my meatloaf. Well, I don't like I said Turds cooked right don't taste good Meal of is not a turd Bob similar. It's mate. Well be it's all your favorite

About this agent go ahead, please ground beef egg onion milk and seasonings like so you got milk in there, okay? I'm out now. I didn't know milk was in there. Tell me I don't meet life Mother and gravy I just smothered in ketchup every time I like so taste so good love ketchup milk and meat. I want to do it Sloppy toes love You know I watched the guy order a bucket of mashed potatoes for dinner at a like a five-star steakhouse the other night Just nope just butter bucket of potatoes. That's it. Nothing else Potatoes serving spoon as his utensil. That's real. This is a really nice It was it's one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my entire life Thought the waiter forgot something held up eating

then I watched person take serving spoon and Fucking dive right into that thing and start mixing it up. Yeah. Is that your meal? This is my meal any chives on there had sour cream as somebody else to take it off Sure had somebody else take it off. Great move move great move. You want some sour cream? How much it was so much? Baseball was like one scoop pretty much. It was a bucket. So you gotta have it in proportions It was a jack fucking scoop of sour cream on top of that He wants to watch take some hand it over take off the sour cream bring it back serving spoon in the mouth

This is your meal Don't you worry about my food Pat? Well, I am a little bit is this is the whole table eating from this or just you this is my meal Stop talking about my food, you know, that man was John Halliburton. That was not really that was Tyrese Halliburton's dad He is the most electrifying human I have ever encountered. I've never got a chance to hang out with him. I got to hang out with him at the WNBA contest night, hour 15 minute show, did not expect that.

So we still had some time. We'd go get dinner across the street at Prime, shot the Prime setting us up in this like back room area. More so shut up Tyrese for sure, especially for him to roll in there, but that's kind of his place. And I sat right next to John Halliburton and I laughed for two hours straight. I mean, I, yeah, he can definitely, here's, here's me and him. We, he is the man.

I cannot, they need to apologize to this man. Now they need, instead of kicking him out, you know, they have me on the microphone. Some of these games, the NBA should have him on a microphone full-time whole game he should be mic'd up for every single ESPN this guy's fucking unbelievable he that's his can we zoom in on that photo that's just a tub of mashed potatoes nothing else that's his big old spoon yeah you can see that's a serving spoon serving spoon yeah so I asked the waiter I go just can you clarify something why did you put a serving spoon? He goes, don't talk, stop asking this man, this guy, John, as I'm doing this, why'd you give him a serving spoon? Why'd you do that? And he goes, well,

I thought obviously it was for the whole table. Of course you did. Everybody thought that. Even the guy that was bringing food, he said, don't you worry about what I'm, I'm not worried about what you're eating. I'm like, I'm eating chicken parmesan He is this guy is the greatest. I'm so thankful. I got this hit Weapon dude weapon got a chance to chat more about the entire situation that happened course Obviously wasn't thrilled about how it all went didn't like, you know, doesn't love it That's the attention towards Tyrese, but he does have a side, you know, sure. He has his side of things on On everything I love them. They need him. They need John next year to maybe dress for the baseball.

That's not a bad idea. Maybe. At least warm up like Romo did that one game. Do that. Hit a couple of these. Doesn't swear, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke never has none of it has the confidence of a I don't know 25 year old prize fighter He did not if he was to explain just standing there this story he didn't even know I He was just in him in his zone. You know, he was in his own. You're honest happen to be there Then there was a whole situation, you know, everybody

He's the man Tyrese will be in here tomorrow. Hopefully John was pumped. Yeah, please Mr. Halberton, if you're coming by we will have a fucking bathtub Leave that man alone, Pat. John told me about a couple things. Yeah. And he's right. He is right.

So John, I'm a murderous guy. This guy deserves to get murdered. Leave that man alone, Pat. Thank you, John. I needed to hear that. Well said. That is very, very good. I am proud of me.

Obviously, I tweeted it publicly because I just wanted it to be out there. Like, hey, there was another war that was averted yeah is that a word yeah so I just want to let people know hey this is growth there would have been people on his I mean it's just you just I'm dropping into a kind of more like a public execution bug windshields and the boys did see everything I was gonna say too about who I was gonna say It was some of my finer work. Not my greatest. I have some emails that are better, but these these You know, I just text it's pretty it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Thank you. I felt pretty good about it Yeah, I took I had time I had time baby girl was sleeping. I was home alone wife was out of town

Just kind of hanging there it was from Some time ago and I look at I know this happened Sending in the group. What's this? What's this? What is this all about get some Intel? Is that right? Let me go ahead and see if this is who I fucking think it is Yep, that guy's message me a lot asking for a lot It can't be that guy's messaged me a lot asking for a lot It can't be that guy let me go back

Same guy sure is interesting Let me learn about this guy. He doesn't think I have time 45 minutes deep dive into this guy's life This guy has no idea how much I know about him. Can't wait to run into him. It's like Yeah, all right. You said your piece. Now, I believe I should probably stick up for myself. Had an X version, had an Instagram stories version, had an Instagram post version. Okay. Really put some time into this. Threads? I don't do the threads. It's automatic. 600 million posts. I was going to say everybody is. Yeah. People were saying thread. I saw a post the threads automatic 600 million posts. Yeah, I was gonna say everybody is yeah people were saying threat

I saw a post saying threads has more active users than X. Yeah, two billion. Wow boom trillion actually She's that doesn't feel real Does it I saw Dana holding a microphone that said threads? That might have been a part of his deal with Zuck. Hmm So maybe threads is becoming didn't have a threads was going to make a TikTok was going to record a video have a talk kind of piece it together. And I didn't I say you know what today's not the day. Send them all the drafts. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I put my phone down. So people are allowed to feel the way they feel. Then I walked a little bit further. I said I'm allowed to feel a lot fucking when I know no, no, no, no, no. It's

good summer. We're having a blast. Boom. Shout out to the MLB. Shout out. Shout out to the ESPYs. That was a good time. Yeah. Did we have more fun than anybody else at the ESPYs? Certainly.

Yes, great, great time, but in Atlanta, MLB, like my favorite part, and I forgot about this, was Ty, you know, not forgetting about the kids. Yeah. Like, you know, heading to the field, you know, Ty, Ty, Ty, you know, not forgetting about the kids. Like, you know, heading to the field, you know, Kyah, Ty, Ty, Ty. At point back, coming back, signing all the crafts for, you know, who knows how long.

I mean, good on you, man. First All-Star, congratulations. Well, you know, we're just trying to grow up for the next generation. You know what I mean? Who am I to beat? You know, I was obviously trying to take everything in myself, my first All-Star experience,

but I thought how special, you know, for one of these kids, you know, who's been waiting all day. That video is so far back in my library. I'm trying to scroll back and find it right now because we've done so much since then. Yeah, that was me. And I said, you know what, I ain't going to leave these kids standing here. I'm walking behind Ty as he's about to make his way onto the field for the first time,ressing his full regalia

And I just wanted to get him jogging on the field because I knew he was probably gonna skip up over top of the the chalk and everything and instead what I caught was just Absolute magic true moment in time true MLB magic. I just texted it to you Zito so you can pull this up Kids and never forget it ever, you know, they talk about a lot of people say like I remember It's kiss and never forget it ever you know they talk about a lot of people say like I remember Mickey Manil stopped and said hello Ken Griffey jr. And he got Inspired me to become a professional athlete and treat people the right way Ty you're kind of you're kind of becoming that guy maybe for an entire legion of baseball fans with how you acted as

An MLB all-star and I know that there was some some blowback by the baseball purists for us. Sure. I think this video right here will kind of put it all at ease. We're trying to get back to the game. How about you, kid? Come on, get over here. Come here, I'll sign the ball, I guess. Mr. Schmidt, Mr. Schmidt.

Yeah. Mr. Schmidt. Go Yankees. Mr. Schmidt. That's all they kept saying. Mr. Schmidt. A lot of that. I saw one of those things hit eBay.

$8,000 for a signed tie shot. Do I tell you what? A couple of those, I saw one of those things hit. $8,000 for a signed title. I tell you what, a couple of those, when I was signing them, I saw some of the other signatures on there. I was like, God damn. I really fucking shouldn't. But hey, guess what? They're going to play the part. They think I'm an all star. I'm going to do it. Hey, now. Yeah, exactly. Sign the baseball. Yep. Go play.

That's what he did, didn't we? We did. Then they saw us out on the field. Those kids. What? Yeah, what are these guys doing? No, they wouldn't have asked if they didn't want it. Yeah. I didn't know who he was. We're coming out right from the clubhouse. Yeah. I mean, it was a setup for those kids. They had no hope. No, without a doubt. You had the hat on the whole thing. Yeah. They might have thought maybe you were a manager. A.L. Clubhouse was the music still playing in there?

Did the A.O. win or lose? They lost. They lost the swing. Sure, sure. Oh, yeah, because we talked. We need the swing on. Yeah. OK, I read my take. If it goes more than one extra inning.

OK, then swing. I like that. Having 10th inning of baseball. Gives the purists what they want. Then let's go to the swing off. And I think we only do two two I don't think we do three guys. I think it's two guys One of them hits three times one of them hits two times best of five. Well not one guy. I like one swing I Think that was a death because both because both guys you could hit could hit or both most likely miss

So that's okay. We got a lot. Yeah, we know we're making it to the same guy like Olympics with T.J. Oshie. Bingo. Yeah. Like it's swing for swing. Or do you go, you have to go to a next batter. You have to line up who the batter is like soccer. No, just one.

Just one batter. Regular season hockey is how? One swing, three guys. One swing per guy. That's what you think. Three guys. I think one guy, one swing per guy that's what you think three guys I think one guy one swing let's fucking see but then it's over before it even and you run into the potential of it being so anti-climatic if you do that yeah it

could be over so quick but I mean we want to best the three best of five yeah don't you think I suppose personally I think no matter what if they make the change they'll do like just exactly what the NHL does Which is once it gets to the playoffs the most meaningful stuff. They'll get rid of it. Yeah, and they'll just do extras no matter what Oh, yeah, definitely not doing that Series yeah game seven swing Show-havers judge that'd be sick, but that is never going to happen. Well, that'd be the extras the first time Yeah, you're right dong off champ. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't want that in the playoff in the playoff season for sure

I think the one for those would be like Oscars. I mean, they don't care about the climactic It would be so sick though to watch best of three. We would all watch. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, I think we would all watch actually come into the group say hey so and so's in a swing off Right now. Yeah dong off happening. Oh, I don't see the highlight We would watch we will talk about the clip the next day for a thousand percent The clip would be massive just as somebody that's new to baseball becoming a fan of baseball. Mm-hmm You guys are already making changes in the rules anyways. Yeah, I'm getting all the socks games I'm gonna get into like 13 innings, is that good?

Is that fun? No. No, I mean, that's, that is like, that's why they put guys on second base now to start extras, because they don't want- It's already a gimmick. Yeah, they don't want games. You guys are already doing gimmicks.

You guys put the fucking person on second base, Ghost Runner on second base. Which sucks. It does, it's, yeah. So you're already doing gimmicks. If we're gonna do gimmicks Let's do fun. Give here's a better one. Oh bangin a pow have one inning extra inning do your thing do the baseball Good luck. Hope you hope somebody would go score, but then best of three one swing per each

I think is the right play. I like it. Maybe two innings Dumps I'm just saying hours a night. I'm just saying though as like purists. I think if you said two innings, they take the bait on two. If you go one, I think they'd still be pissed. Okay. Four outs, one inning. I like that. I don't mind. I like that a lot.

That's a win. Okay. Four, you guys already doing it. You got the ghost man on second. Purists can't be pissed about four outs.'m like we gave him more than that's cool That is cool How about pictures to throw alternate hand yeah Or picture is not allowed to throw any breaking balls. Yeah gotta be all right down fastball Does the other person have to throw no no more strike zone zone no what forget the pitcher we're on T let him swing away would guys hit dogs off

teeth yes yeah yeah that's a fair question yeah the speed coming I was gonna I also was I thought he was gonna say oh dude if you put a fucking ball on a tee at home plate judge would hit it 9,000 feet judge but that's our god most he wears size 15 it does shoot most guys would okay most guys will be able to take it out yeah very far I would assume so yes you ball off a tee these guys do so much t-work so much t-work such a dumb question yeah I mean certainly for a non baseball person not a dumb guy assume. I assume they needed need the speed need the velocity Yeah, and then the BP they're still throwing they're not I do adults hit off tee

They do practice all the time. Yeah majors. Yeah, do they? Oh, yeah. I didn't think big deal I've never seen it. We need to start doing that for next year We need to get on the goddamn team. We need to break we start throwing some yeah, see if they can do it see they can do it. All right boys Who can do it right before the home run derby? boys Take a second team see if you can hit a dong off of this goddamn tee the tee derby Yeah, we're trying to find out those dudes were sweet over there. Yeah Yankees have a game tonight. Yes

sweet over there. Yeah. Yanks have a game tonight? Yes. What's up, Yankees? Big one. In Toronto. Good to see you dudes. Well, who knows with it because they're in Toronto so they might be watching on Sportsnet today and not ESPN. No, they watch on YouTube. Probably right. I believe. So you can catch the naughty language. Show plays on TSN in Canada. Oh, does it? Does it? The sports network, yeah. I didn't know that network I believe ESPN owns them they do not know who was Rogers I have a question still to this day right now I'm pretty sure a lot of people watch on TSM back home can't wait to meet you people at TSA well no wonder the Canada stuff got so loud after. Geez, they know I exist up there. Yeah.

Golly. Shove down their throats the next day. Oh, great. We got to listen to the fucking asshole. Hey, buddy, the fucking American asshole's on TV again. Jesus Christ. You think there was a chance old retired Trudeau was watching our show the next day?

I got to say something. No, he's watching other stuff. Well, now he's retired. Speaking of retired, Washington football team name was retired. Will the commanders be just another, oh you remember when? Your president AJ, may statement about the Washington whatevers. How do you feel? How do you feel about it? I mean this is, I don't know have we ever seen a president before like dip his toe into the NFL waters on what a team should be Named yes, and the reason why we know that is because there is a pre-presidential Donald Trump tweet saying shouldn't do that

President shouldn't be doing that cuz uh President Obama at the time was I believe talking about the name of the Washington football team, so I Yeah, there has been a little bit of dancing, I guess. And this is a wild thing, especially if the stadium stuff gets held up. You know, and obviously, the art of the deal. President Trump is a deal maker. That's kind of his entire thing. Everybody's saying, why he got a rich dad? It's like, okay, a lot of people have rich dads. A lot of people have rich dads. He's been able to make deals, I think, throughout his entire life.

It's kind of his thing. Now, do all of them withstand or whatever it is? I don't know. I guess the, I think not. I think there's some deals that happen that don't happen. And then I think that causes a lot of problems. I think some people get real happy. Some people get real mad.

And then they just kind of go like this and that's politics. Yeah. I think. That's how it works. But I think he can probably withhold fun. I don't know. I don't know all the ins and outs of being a president. He won't.

All right. Debuch as he wants. Politics, Jews, just yapping. Pause, Pat. I think the president- That's on truth, social truth. Are you on there? I do not have an account over here. That's where you send me the link from probably battling with threats. I would assume

active users on threads. You know, Facebook's become interesting because I'll post on instagram or we'll post on instagram and post on my facebook that I don't have a login for over there. And then my mom would tell me she saw me on facebook and I'm like what what what did you see mommy? She's like your post is on Facebook, and I'm like holy fuck it is over there threads to Really I get only I get only pose only pose on the thread go to threads only post go to the real Reels go to Facebook. Yeah What and my mom saw some something we posted on Instagram on Facebook Facebook and I'm like mom I think somebody's ripping my shit you know you

should continue to tell me about that she goes is this your account I haven't been in there in years my god holy fuck Zuck figured out my password and connected us how's that whole thing go so you got to go into what email I had that goes back to my West Virginia email I I think. It's like, possible. Things have been deactivated for 15 years. Oh my God. What alternate email could it have been? It's crazy.

And then at the time, what was my favorite drink? Pass. Yeah, yeah. What was I, at the time, that might've been a rum and Coke though. Incredible Hulk. I'll tell you what, that one really put some people to bed. Hypnotic and Hennessy, right? Oh yeah. I'll take. Incredible Hulk I'll tell you what that one really put some people to bet hypnotic and Hennessy, right? Oh, yeah

I'll take the Incredible Hulk. Are you sure always followed up there? Yeah. Well, then make that thing green thing the color of the Hypnotic how do they do that? Interesting color bright die boys It's really bright like really bright looks so cool some sort of ooze. What is that? Oh, yeah, really is some sort of ooze. What is that nectar up there that is glowing? Well, we can actually put this together with Hennessy and really fuck up your whole night done do it. Give me that one. Yeah What was the other one the four shots before horse or horsemen? Yeah, that was Jack Jose That's him Jim and that's when you knew you walked on enemy territory Four horsemen. Yeah, that was terrible. Jack, Jose, Jim, Johnny, Johnny.

That's when you knew you walked into enemy territory. You know, you walked in there. Somebody goes, hey, Pat, good to see you. Let me buy you some stuff. Send you down there. It's like, oh, this place hates me. Got it. You know what I mean? I went to a place that had a wheel. You just spun it. That was one of the options. If it happened, it just happened. Yeah, but there were some other good options on there.

There was a couple good ones. There was a couple real bad ones. Those days were crazy. This generation has no idea what it used to be like The cameras on the phones I think change everything everybody's kind of a little bit more docile used to be fucking wild world out there They do other date still is a wild world. It's not good twist You can get punched in the face shot all that stuff. I'm saying you can't but I'm just talking about like going out that just changed Immediately. Yeah. Yeah, they do other fuck like the galaxy gas all that shit like they have a whole what's that nitrous? Yeah, I don't even know what it is. It's like a computer duster or some shit. Yeah, it's insane. It's their form of nitrous It's not I think so. Yeah, we heard that too

Yeah, we it's fine. That's like a 30-second thing. You should not be killing brain cells with yeah You guys had it, but you didn't have a phone that added added like the oh do the most ever and we'll get it on camera and post it'll be cool. I was trying every time to break every record. I don't know you seen Steve Clinking around? What's that? You ever see the video Steve Clinking around? That's what I'm saying though like with the Steve-O era you're going and you're buying a specific camera video recorder now it's more so like hey everyone's got one so if you think you can do something absurd Let's film it and see you. You can make a business out of it Yeah, and you can get a good business out you can become a millionaire. Yeah, I don't know if I would have survived

Yeah, and you can die. Yes, that's true. I think what about me because there was incredible Hawks. I mean For these yeah, can you check for these in a minute or whatever? It's like We're gonna try you're gonna try this entire thing. Good nights. Oh, yeah and terrible warning Yeah, you're doing strong islands. We get pictures of strong. Oh, yeah Love there's a lot that goes into those you feel really good the next day after you chug those Yeah, and why do they taste so good? They're always like, this one's got 10 shots in it. Hold on, wait, what's the strong one? I think it's because we were young.

What's the extra ingredient? I don't know. I don't know what's strong. Just more booze. Long Island, just more booze. It's yeah. They got like eight, nine shots in this. Oh yeah.

Allegedly. Oh yeah. Of different alcohols. Yeah, it's mixing everything. Yeah. A little whiskey, a little dish, a little apple. A little kebab. I don't know the last time you heard someone order a Long Island.

Yeah, give me a Long Island IP. I had one two weeks ago. They do not taste the same. I feel like that was just a young the top shelf. Mm-hmm. We're at the age now You need to top show. I don't know. I don't know. It was just on the menu today. Do they have top shelf, Long Island? Yes, never been. Yeah, that's fake in them The only place I've ever been they're making these long islands With a good yeah, what else we got back there? Yeah. **** Well, uh no. Put that back. Yeah. Here you go. You

want taste. It's **** in the middle of that. Here you go. Thank you. That'll be ten bucks. What the **** I pay for? Yes. Everything. Hold all the **** out. What do you think of this? You're gonna love it. It's Mario Short Wheel Diner in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Referring to you can get black and gold shot. You can get karma cause you'll get your Vegas bomb will get you going White gummy bear. Hey, how you doing three wise men? Good night and puke. That's the one I was there's a Yeager There's an old bomb love the old bombs. The old bombs get you going tequila green tea pineapple royal flush Lemonhead so that is yeah that one tastes like

shit yep very sweet and oh bomb just oh yeah just tequila oh bomb is just tequila no there's the two o'clock are you just hoping for a green tea that's the easy way well it depends on who you are back in the day we were definitely hoping for ve Vegas balls if you're spinning this you're not hoping for a green tea or a good time what's that or a good time you're looking to end up under dumpster if you're at this slot wheel okay we did it every weekend First stop, yeah. You get a free shot on this thing. Yeah, that's awesome.

Crazy world back in the day. Good times. The eye is taped on. Yeah, it's been around. Yeah, yeah. It's incredible. On that wheel. May tone.

We've had our hands on that wheel. Let's talk about the throwback uniforms for the Pittsburgh Steelers. My immediate thought upon seeing them was I didn't like them. Then I think about like what throwback uniforms are and I immediately go, that's not bad. All they're trying to do is move some more jerseys and pay tribute to the past, which I respect. This one interesting form of the bumblebee just kind of inverted the entire thing. I would certainly like stripes up and down as opposed to flat.

I think that is good. The pants color, don't love it. You make that black, I think you got a cooler looking thing, but hey, I guess that wasn't what it was back in the day. Do they feel obligated to make it not look as good as it could look? Does that make sense?

I feel like they feel obligated to make it historically accurate so that the steelworkers of that time, if they were to magically come back today, they're like, oh those steelers are back. And so, look, you can see they're historically accurate. I mean, I like them better than the Bumblebees. Would they, Black Pants been a lot better? Yeah, but I mean, it's just not what they were. Yeah, I understand that in 1933 they didn't have the black pants on but we could say the steel Yeah The new style helmets really distort what the throwbacks look like I think yeah

Get the old school helmets that weigh 400 pounds and put them in, put them in those guys for one game. Yeah, if we're gonna do it historically accurately, we should do the same helmets. Yeah. We should do the same helmets as these. I agree.

Collars. I just saw the clip of, we just posted it on Instagram. It was from Radio Row. Somebody was talking about the new helmet. And JJ Watt was like, I finally put it on my last year. It's so nice.

So comfortable. I didn't want to take it off. It's not heavy. And AJ was sitting there, well, you look, you look stupid. It was like, clearly JJ was like attacking you and the entire thing. It's like helmets have transformed a lot. I mean, from what they used to look like to what they are now, but I guess inside they feel good.

I guess it's like a fun because remember and I didn't grow up in a football world. So forgive me, man, my ears putting that fucking thing on especially my ears are bruised. My ears get bruised all the time. Ears are always- And forget if it was cold. Could get cauliflower fucking ear from putting on a goddamn helmet And then let alone I have a big head. I have a large head so they're like well We'll give you a bigger helmet It's like oh That's still gonna have to fucking bend that thing out cuz it's you're kind of it has to be tight right?

You know what you're saying so you bend that down then the side of your head is just getting compressed let alone if this thing stays Down oh yeah, if you got your ear just like stays down, it's it's a whole thing. Put the helmet. I'm happy they made it better. It pumped up. You know, the air. To the pads. I miss it.

I want a few pumps right now. Strapping. Too much. Take a little bit out. There's a couple of helmets behind you right now. If you want to run the wall. I was too new, too fast to come. No, no, no. They want it.

How about that one? Steelers, that's Steelers helmet. Yeah, I got dude You put on maverick helmet too if you want nice It's old school and it's beautiful shot game worn so if they're gonna do the gimmick helmets. Why don't they do gimmick pants? Hi, well, I'm with you. Are you gonna buy that jersey? Uh No, which player would you buy the jersey of this year? Did you what? Uh, no. Which player would you buy the jersey of this year? TJ Watt. Okay. I don't have a T jersey. He's now a one. You're real excited. TJ Watt was Pittsburgh Steelers. He's now a one helmet guy. I do this a lot. I do this all the time. Um, where, you know,

I put out both sides. I put out some mixed feelings. Then once it finally happens, you get your true, your true soul, your true heart, your true North. Who else do you think you did that for? Quarterback as well? Yep. For sure.? Yep, for sure. For Aaron, for sure. For the last three years. How about DK Metcalf? Did you do that for DK?

How about Johnny Smith? Did you do that for Johnny? No. You didn't? Because I didn't even know it was an option. When the news of the original news, Johnny came out that it was potentially trading for him, I said, that's bullshit.

That's not going to happen. And then Khan gets the job. Yeah, and then it happened. That was crazy. Legend. Like, I never thought happened. That was crazy. Legend. Like, I never thought DK was an option ever. So I never even had- Are you guys winning the Super Bowl this year?

I would be highly surprised if we did. D Butch, Pittsburgh Steelers go to an AFC championship this year? Oh, no. That's bullshit. I mean, you know. AJ, Pittsburgh Steelers go to an AFC championship this year? I've been thinking about this lately like if their own line holds up. I think they definitely have a chance Everybody's that's everybody's team, but I'm telling you viewers look around man They they got some studs Jalen Ramsey's on the squad now like they got a team

I completely forgot about Jalen Ramsey. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh those are Like they got a team. I completely forgot about Jalen Ramsey over there. That top row, those are... You think Ravens, Bills, Chiefs? I mean, Chiefs, I'm gonna start Chiefs, Ravens, Bills. Paying goals higher way too high. What? I agree. That's ridiculous.

They're talking about Trey Hendrickson a little bit, thinks he's gonna get the deal done like Brown came out and talked about it. Yeah, I think he said that two months ago too. Well, his family though came out and said, some of these players need to be pretty happy with what they got. Yeah. As far as the Texans are that low. Shamar Stewart needs a sign. I understand.

He's not. Yeah. Because they're not changing the contract. That's what it feels like. Yeah. Cincinnati Bengals are not going to change. No. He has taken a stand on this clause about guarantees and voided years and everything

like that. He said that we learned that it wasn't in the Bengals deal last year, but it is in 16 different teams, organizations, deals. We would have assumed Cincinnati Bengals would have been doing something to save themselves money if other teams were doing it already. Certainly. Right? Don't we think that we would have?

Yeah. I think we all kind of assumed that was the case. So I'm kind of torn on this, but I'm definitely at the case where I hope Shemar gets money, hope he gets all of his money, and hope he gets back to work with the boys, because he could be a difference maker in the NFL with how talented he is. Yeah, but he needs, I mean, we all need reps coming in, but he needs some bad. So them not getting this or Trey Hendrickson done is crazy. But speaking of contracts, guarantees, and all that, a lot of these second round picks, getting signed fully guaranteed deals, which is great for them Before we get to that Mike Brown's quote about Shamar Stewart if we get a player who does something unacceptable guess what?

I don't want to pay I Really don't you sit in jail. I don't think I have to pay him Obviously injuries jail. I guess is certainly things that you could void contracts for hopefully they get the deal done Mike Brown ever Transparent now back to what you were talking about about the second round Deal is finally getting done kind of an abnormal year for the CBA and for these players in the second round Yeah, people still showing up. Most rookies have already had to show up for camp So all these guys getting paid we had Carson I think he was the first one to get paid with being the first pick in the second round

But I mean, I love this. They took somewhat of a stand. It didn't take too long. We're right on training camp. And once these dominoes start to fall, you assume the rest of the guys will fall in line. Obviously we know Jutkins is dealing with some issues off the field, which would probably hold his up.

But most of these guys are either fully guaranteed or north of 90% guaranteed, which is awesome. Yeah, so originally last time we talked about this, Sweathinger and Higgins were the only ones that were paid and they were paid fully guaranteed money. And the holdup was right there with number 35, Nicky Manwari from Seattle. I think he was the next one and he said,

oh, the two guys in front of me, they were fully guaranteed. Why aren't I fully guaranteed? So now at this point, picks 33 through 40 are all fully guaranteed. Obviously you talked about Jenkins He is not done yet. So they were all fully guaranteed 33 to 40 and then the next one TJ Sanders out of Buffalo He was like

95 percent fully guaranteed as you go down the list. I mean most of these are north of 80 percent fully guaranteed So that was kind of the hold-up but once like once the once you got the Shuck who was the quarterback and they said he has leverage because he is a quarterback to get the fully guaranteed. He might be a starter. Yes. And what but once that that first domino fall fell at 41 then it was like, okay, this is kind of how it's going to fall in as far as percentage of fully guaranteed. I do appreciate the fact that being was like, we'll give you guarantees not to fool. I mean yes

10.07 on 10.6. Well, come on. Come on. I love play ball It's a lot of guarantee with 10 million dollars And he kind of go down throughout the rest of it Mason Taylor obviously from the Taylor family Absolute beast over there with the New York Jets 9.6 million of 10.4 fully guaranteed. I like the angle I like what the boys try to guaranteed. I like the angle. I like what the boys tried to do. I think it all worked out and now we're a camp. It was funny because you know, as soon as like, as soon as that, uh, it was like a few days ago, that first second round or that hadn't been signed, got signed. And then literally

they like 20, 20 of them signed within two days. Yep. Shots of second rounders AJ. You wouldn't know anything about that would you? No you wouldn't. Are they doing anything outside top five? Who cares? You think football ever gets to fully guaranteed deals like basketball and baseball? Is Scott Boris coming over or no?

I don't think it happens, but yeah, I mean, that's probably part of the reason why football is great though, because every single day and you know, as well, like I know we've talked about it, like you need to have a healthy fear of your job. Like you really do. Agreed. I think, uh, I think, yeah, products can potentially dip if people get too comfortable and don't try to work for everything in the future, if you have to earn it now, granted, I am a very much a pro player guarantee, get all the money

you could possibly get, but if we're talking strictly from the product standpoint, when people are chasing bags, that's when they're playing their absolute best ball the NFL knows that but I think taking care of the players is a Very valid, especially the guys, you know, like the guys that your league or that's why when I went to that first Pro Bowl It was out there in Arizona All the guys that make money for the NFL were there. Okay, like Tom Brady opted out I think Aaron opted out but basically JJ's there Luke Eakley's there drew Tom Brady opted out, I think Aaron opted out, but basically JJ's there, Luke Keakley's there, Drew Brees is there, Patrick wasn't at that time, no. But like basically everybody else that makes money for the NFL was there and they didn't even like rent out the entire hotel. And I was like, what the fuck are we doing, man? Like you got to at least take care of these

people, the people that take care of and move the needle for your entire league. So I think like older players getting fully guaranteed deals if they've already proven who they are, I think it's something we need. And I think we'll be something that happens. But boy, that Deshaun Watson deal fucked up a lot. A lot I think, you know? Like if that works out for them up there,

think about if Cleveland wins. Yeah. Yeah, then. Then it's like, everybody is going to be able to pull the trigger. But the fact that it's gone the way that it's gone as terribly as it's gone both on the field and off the field it's like that's a lot of reasoning for the NFL to say no we're not gonna do it but I hope we get to a point where like vets are getting yeah fully guaranteed deal there has to be like a year like hey if you get to

this point you can opt into this or something like that I don't know how it all I mean I'm not concerned with you there I'm pro player that. I don't know how it all. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I'm not concerned with you there. I'm pro player getting paid. I don't, I'm not concerned with the product dipping. We have seen a lot of guys get paid and then that next year they don't play as well because obviously you do have that motivation when you are in a contract year. But once you start getting to that big, big money,

those are usually, you know, like guys who've been playing for six, seven, eight, like this would be the Josh Allen's, the Lamar Jackson's, like Jaylin Hurts, like these guys aren't just going to stop being pros once they're getting these huge bags. And then the other guys who are, you know, say early 20s, like a Kostingli or a Saucer just got paid, they want to get paid again, you know, because three, four years down the line,

new CBA, new salary, they're going to want $50 million a year. So, you know, we always want more money, especially at football, you want to year. So, um, you know, we always want more money, especially at football You want to maximize your three five ten years? How long you playing the league? So I hope it happens with the violence in the guarantee of injury in this sport. It's gonna be tough It's very scary the injury thing. That's why the franchise tag everybody gets so pissed off about it's like I've earned it You think that I've earned it? That's why you won't let me go

To the market. And now you're holding me down for a year and I only get one year worth of guarantees when I could, this all could end next year. This could all end one play. So there's that balance of it all. I think it's a tough negotiation. We have anybody on the franchise segment this year?

Not this year. No, because Trey Smith got his deal done. Shout out to Jimmy Sexton and Tory Dandy. That's right. Right? That's right. Tory Dandy. Both Jimmy and Tory AJ. They're a team right? They do it together. I guess. I only talked to Jimmy and then Jimmy told me what was going on. I guess I should have also called Tory and asked him what the fuck's going on too. One voice. One band. Yep band One sound

Martin's get out of here. I think we did it today Yeah, I think so too. Shot Seek Eek by the way Go see a show We've been living a little bit We got to see a show, Shane Gillis Yeah, we did I saw somebody say no but he was laughing in the theater. That's a lie

I was having a good time in there. Great time. We were laughing I was like, some of the things, I was like, but that's Shane Gillis football. Exactly. That is literally what Shane Gillis football is. I did appreciate, I don't want to say it, I said I don't want to say it. Yeah, just right through the neck. They wrote this. What an angle. There was certainly some, but this is going to happen, you know, obviously with the way the SBs has been for a long time, you drop a Shane Gillis in there Who's gonna? Like hey, we are here to me. No, we're making weird Push the envelope of that we are gonna go but who says it's an envelope

You know cuz who says what the envelope is right especially in comedy in the line between humor and hate for a lot of people Just kind of blends together. It's like hey, these are jokes trying to laugh. Well. You didn't make me laugh All right, well hopefully the next joke will you know like that is the thing I I don't love whenever people are like I guess it happens to me a lot too when people are like I didn't think that was funny it was like well there's other people that find that funny it's like well it's not funny it's like well who says you say that like this is like food taste man like everybody has their own taste everybody views things a little bit differently

A lot of people are less serious than other people we understand you're trying to change the world make the world better every single second But this is a comedian making sports jokes and the purpose is to laugh at these things and point out potential hypocrisies and problems or just A thing that we've all seen like that is what comedians jobs are since the beginning of time to kind of regulate society I think personally they have a very important role in our entire world Not all of them do that obviously some of them are different forms of comedy once again different styles some of them represent different political parties, you know in their styles and Yeah, as soon as we heard Shane was the guy who was like, all right

And yeah, as soon as we heard Shane was the guy, it was like, all right, we would like Shane to succeed in this entire thing. And also, we very much understand how some of this is going to go and what the next day is going to look like. They also didn't help him out. When we went last time, it was a full open bar. And this year, so like you had people getting like boozed up and like going in there and like enjoying themselves and having a good time. It was just it was just beer and wine and like seltzer this year. So I want I wonder if just like the general you know like people weren't as drunk in there. I don't know people were laughing though like I don't know if it wasn't coming through the TV and I saw some people say they weren't in there and nobody was laughing. It's like it didn't come through for years though.

Number one you did it. I guess we had some pops. We had some pops, sounded quiet. But people online were like, no one's laughing during McAfee's monologue. But that wasn't the case. Yeah, there was some people popping. And just like for Shane, there was some

there was certainly some, ooh. It was definitely, even for me, obviously I was sitting next to you and the camera was, you know, so it was some jokes. I love that. That's't, I'm blessed. That's a joke that offends a lot of people. Where's fucking McAfee, put him on. My daughter was like, oh, I saw you yuck it up.

It was funny. He haunt? So, and if you don't know, if you're tuning in to the SBs, you don't know, because obviously Shane Gillis is wildly popular, but there are a lot of people who don't really know him. Oh yeah. Who aren't that familiar with you know

His brand accommodate me. Oh, yes, that's me. Let me tune in So maybe you're taking it back by some of it and I you know the demo our role was definitely Ro though we would like to say to the people who are gonna get mad about us saying that we laughed at some of his jokes? You people need to lighten up a little bit. Maybe try weed. Maybe try weed. Just something to think about. You know, just something to think about.

But also there were some things he said where we were like, Jesus. There was a couple that were like, oh my. I pissed my pants off on everyone. I don't know if I even had any of those, but I also assume that people at home watching, you know, didn't think people were laughing because I assumed maybe the Audience mic was turned down. Maybe he was turned down during the purpose applause laugh times Again who knows I wouldn't be surprised. I'll tell you what I enjoyed that s piece. So did I it had been awesome if they're so In the lobby but outside of of that, it was great.

I enjoyed the monologue. Gumpy missed the entire, uh, that'll be a story for another day. It was awesome. First time in my life that's ever happened. Gumpy had a code red one block away from the theater. Had to get out of the Sprinter van, go to a random restaurant, dump his shit. Talk to a manager. Had to get to a manager because the front person was like, you can't just dump it on

a bathroom, buddy. Can I talk to a manager please, buddy? Mr. Group P. We were sitting at that light for fucking 10 minutes, dude. I was fucking dying. Did you see me put him in the photo? So the one I posted on IG story, I put Gumby in over my shoulder. Right here, if you look.

Hanging from his. No, he put Gumpi in over my shoulder. Really? Right here, if you look. Hanging from his... No, he's got his little, uh, ship painting hat on. His helmet, the whole thing, I put him right there. Because he was in the area. Yeah. He just couldn't get to where we... there's like six different levels of security, AJ. It was outrageous. Right after he got out, it was the most complex,

take a left, go down this, take a right, take a left, take a right, take... Go through another secure... I mean, it it was yeah at every turn AJ we're like Gumpy will be able to get here what did you do during the show Gump yeah I just ran okay it took a while to get to where they were but I found it some missed a group photos missed the first three drinks but got there in time to go into the theater that's right it was great to see him but he didn't shit his pants which I guess we were very close to happening I definitely would have I forgot all about the beer and wine bullshit yeah I was happy about that no

offense to Mickey Mouse but that I wonder what who made it why that was why that why that happens I was cool so I mean soon someone got blitzed last year. A little bit. Was it the same place last year? Same, yeah. A couple years back. Is that theater supposed to be nice? Sorry, nice? All right. If you were to go to a show and do a nice theater, you should use your friends at SeatGeek. I thought the theater was nice.

You didn't think the theater was nice? No, I didn't. I went backstage, I thought the stage was beautiful. You know, cause we were setting up the whole. It looks nice, sure. Yeah, for the whole thing. Had a microphone that came up out of the stage. I was pretty high tech.

That was cool. Stage was very nice. The design of it all. The seats were Mickey. Oh, we got a Busta Rhymes before. Oh my God. Oh, forgot about it. How'd break your neck not come immediately afterwards?

Whenever he said, now granted, Busta's still throwing his fastball. This was literally the next day we were driving somewhere and I'm like hold what we just did right here Holy shit Busta Rhymes last night. Yeah, but a bit of it hit it. Yes everything It's like how is he still got it? And they said if you know how we do or something like that I'm like we do know how you I thought we're back back. I thought we're about to yeah I was about to on top of my chair stand up and do that entire thing, but I think he Biggest reaction was Busta Rhymes. Yes. The entire theater stood up. Yep. Ty started a standing ovation. I did. I did. Ty started a standing ovation. I

forget which one it was. It was either, now it wasn't Simone Biles, it might have been for Diana Farrasi and Alex Morgan. Yeah, because there's clapping happening, you know, a lot of clapping happening. And Ty was like, nope. That's literally what he said. He stood up, big claps in the middle of the theater. And then you see everybody like wildfire. Yeah, it was. Ty started it. Ty started it.

It was pretty sick. And then they gave a good they gave a good speech. Yeah, back and forth deal. And then we learned to Rossi's an absolute dog. Yeah, it's Diana big fan of program, too Yeah, we learned that I don't know that she gave you a lot of me you gave gumps a slap on the chest Yeah, what's up boss? She big dog gum. Did you? I thought it was out of respect I guess she is a legendary shit talker. Yes, I guess I Guess I saw an interview

She did outside in the red carpet when she was saying like very humble saying yeah, I can still take all these girls I love yeah dog from what I from my understanding. Yeah, I guess she knows the show which is pretty sick We would love to get Diana Therassi on the show. We love you. I watched that documentary. She's playing overseas. Yeah Yeah, she had to play over in Russia first 12 years of her career. Did you watch that doc on her? I did not. She was coming back WNBA season, then going over there, then she couldn't play in some things because of the contracts. Speaking of we're in the middle of it, I guess with WNBA contracts right now. Yeah, I watched the whole doc. She's beast. Absolute beast. Oh, yeah. I had no idea. I'd assume just immediately That she would have hated our fucking guts that's always still do Still chance still assume she still thinks she thinks you know and Shane probably did on purpose But she probably thinks that's how we feel as well. Yeah, that's our thing. We clapped for that four-time NBA or WNBA all-star What was her name? Wicks, Brittany Hicks Brittany Hicks Hicks. Yeah. What a moment. What a creative little situation that was

Yeah, I don't know if people are talking about that particular situation. I heard Sarah Spains pissed and I okay. What's Sarah Spains? Yeah, no way. I got a chance to meet Sarah Spain and her husband. They were very nice to me and Foxy I mean, they're nice. I'm Spain. She is I don't know his name Steve. I don't know his name I forget his name. They're very nice to us, but Sarah obviously pissed off, she is, I don't know his name, Steve. I don't know his name. I forget his name. They're very nice to us. But Sarah obviously pissed off, but that's her, you know, she's like, Hey, we don't need to be taking anything down. So I think we expected Sarah Spain to not love that entire thing. Um, him saying Deanna Tarasi, uh, that had to be on purpose. He had to have done that on purpose. They went right to her too. Yeah I do and then the whole Make some noise for four times WNBA like you're talking about hit

Like calling that a low-level thing. I don't think she was talking about that I don't think she was cuz she couldn't be tough. That was a super genius. Yeah, I mean work it worked How do you argue it works perfectly? Well any my levels to that like I assumed you choose talk about the Caitlin Clark Waffle House deal Yeah Yeah, cuz the whole Make some noise for four time. That's just yeah raucous applause Well, then you see oh my god Yeah, yeah, she could not a short. That's really dope. Well then you see- Oh my god. Yeah. She could dribble the shit on that ball.

Gets buckets obviously. I happened to meet her afterwards. I sorta congrats on a four time all star and then just kinda kept it moving. Big laugh. McCusker losing his mind. Yeah, he's inside of the house. That was pretty good. All right, shout out to the SPs.

Shout out. It was for me. Of course that thing was sweetps. Shout out. It was cool. Of course, that thing was sweet. Yeah, great. Speech was phenomenal. Speech was phenomenal. Ad-libbed. Because I was watching.

He was, I think August 30th is going to be awesome. He's going to be very cool. Ohio State, Texas. So cool. It's going to be his last, you know, head gear, his last pick and first college game day of the year over there in columbus and uh He looks good, man energy moved Talking in the band. Yeah, usb band. I forgot about that. That was sweet. That was sick

I had no idea what they were gonna do. I was just told hey usb bands coming out at the end If you could bring him up you got it. I had no idea They're coming from the floor. Yeah Holy fuck we're doing a full I Actually, I was standing in a place and a guy slid in front of me for their performance. I look at Dez I go, holy fuck and I moved this way and Dez is literally that cuz I almost interrupted and tripped this entire guy So I'm like where is a safe place wasn't I don't know We should have paid attention a little bit more

So just kind of stood still told you a little more, but it was awesome. Nah, I think it was better that way I think it's better how it all went Shots Kirk Herbstreet Desmond Howard. Shut up Kirk Herbstreet hilarious. Thanks for the dinner Herbie after the s-piece. I was very kind of him and D Yeah, case of the How the fuck? Delicious quesadilla you should have fuck? How'd you know that was me? Delicious quesadilla.

D's brain is still in LA. You should've heard Darren. How'd you know to order the quesadilla, Fox? So Darren is a G. We appreciate Darren. We love Darren. Darren's around a lot. We know Darren a lot. We know D very well. He's always trying to get things done, which I respect and I appreciate. He set up this entire thing, I would assume. Shout out to Dee for doing that. We're at a Mexican place though, and Foxy orders a quesadilla in Darren's head,

just fucking, was that off menu? How'd you get fries with a quesadilla? Full explosion. It was fucking, it was great. It was one of the best D bone, I guess you can't call him D bone anymore. There's only great D money, D money moments of all time. Hey, he looked good. Yeah, he was in white pants Great fit great tan. He looks good. Oh, yeah, D money's ready for football. Yeah He's swinging a hot bat right now cuz that Mexican place was very good. So good. Very very good Very very good chicken in a case of Diaz's way What ordered that just cheese this whole time how about this D Right here what the fuck's a taco man right here

Herbie is fucking hysterical Kirk Herbstreet is one of the funniest people existing. So funny. He's in his bag right now. That's because he's been. He's in his I don't give a fuck bag right now. Yeah, but I also think he's been kind of, who's he been talking to? The dogs?

He's cooped up. You can tell. Yeah, he's got a lot to say. A lot has happened. And it was all funny. All of it. How do we feel? And then you knew.

He's a lot like you. You toxic Ohio fucks. Hey, so drop something in there That you know a lot more than you want to lead on about. Just want to kind of start the conversation classic Herb Street so Fill me in Something oh jesus. Wow. Wow

Is that right? Even him on the show just like casually putting in the background and acting like he wasn't doing anything to be on the show I want to see if you guys would see me back there. Yeah He did make a 25 did left only got to make a putt out there Yeah You can tell he's ready to get back in the ball too because it regards in the conversation You can be just shooting shit 30 45 minute. We got an FC He was here everybody's answering We got an AFC this year. What quarterback? Let's go around the ball club. Let's go around the ball. He wants to hear everybody's answer.

Really? He's awesome. Hey, he looks good. He looks very good right now. Tanned. 22 years. He did 4 hours, local radio. These are the dog days boys. Yeah we

know. Yeah we're in it. Not so much this year though Herbie. We've gotten lazy. Yeah. We've gotten lazy. It has been great. Can't wait for football season. It's here. On that note we have an announcement. We have an announcement. Next Wednesday. We will be at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp. And next Thursday. We will be at the Hall of Fame for the Hall of Fame game. Football is back in a huge way.

We'll be at a training camp next Wednesday live with some of your Pittsburgh Steelers favorites and then we'll be at the Hall of Fame Wednesday live with some of your Pittsburgh Steelers favorites. And then we'll be at the Hall of Fame game live with all of the legends of the NFL. Shout out to the NFL Hall of Fame, football, pro football Hall of Fame. Shout out to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Burt, making magic happen. Thank you for the invite, Aaron. Thank you for, um, obliging coach Tomlin and Omar Khan and shout out to the Hall of Fame for allowing us to be set up over there Come hang with us. We're gonna be I don't know about st. Vincent setup I have no idea what that's gonna be like, but I know at the Hall of Fame

There's a massive parking lot. You can come hang and chill but we're gonna be right at the steps I don't know if anybody's ever been set up on the steps there I think all a lot of the legends of the game are gonna swing through and then obviously I think all lot of the legends of the game are gonna swing through and then obviously We kick off NFL football that night with the Lions helmet taking on the Chargers helmet on a football field in Ohio Awesome hard balls gonna be on a sideline MC DC is gonna be on a sideline There's some quarterbacks that we know that are gonna potentially have some time and we know that football is literally right around the corner Because this game is happening. We can't wait to celebrate in Pittsburgh more specifically let's rope and we can't wait to celebrate in Canton next week Come see us ain't that right AJ. That's awesome, man

What a great two days and so when just can't open for the Steelers will they be in full pads this time? So they start Wednesday in two days. They start yeah. Yeah, they'll be in fact probably there'll be a weekend There will be full pads in they're one of the last two teams to start their training camp 26 teams will start tomorrow Four have already started and then to Start on Wednesday. Yes, correct Okay, I think it's the Cardinals who also start Wednesday, but they've already been doing work out I seen Tyler Murray traveling with us. That's right Marvel. She was at Morgan Wallen, too Yeah, I say what happened night one Morgan Wallen something something

He had Randy Johnson. I saw that awesome. Mm-hmm Morgan as baseball player growing up had to be That had to be so cool for him I would say I hope Randy knows that that I assume that was very very cool for Morgan and his entire team He's great group of dudes around him and then he had Joe Dart Yep, walk out with him say sure but I think the reports were saying the night once crowd was a little bit More out. Mm-hmm. Really? Yeah fights bottles maybe being thrown things like that. I guess it was a little bit outrage Robbed up they were letting the Ligger talk. Unfortunately last night I

Bet that show is phenomenal. Yeah, he just released an album with 37 songs on it. Hey Morgan loves golf Oh Love his golf loves loves loves golf very much. Good golfer. It's ballpark Golf needs to know that Morgan Wallen is a big golf fan Cuz I think he like respects game loves game treats game goes out of his way to play game, trains game. Then obviously fitness, everything he's doing for these stadium shows. He's a, he's a beast. He's a fucking beast. 37 songs on an album.

Brother, that could be like four fucking albums. 850,000 copies I think. No big deal. More. 850,000 dollars more than second. There it is, yeah. Yeah, I think you had what? 25 of the top 50 or something like that in your songs. And then you just walkin' out there. Thank you very much for comin' out tonight.

Bang, 100-some thousand tickets sold. Jesus Christ, think about all that. Congrats, dude. Hell yeah, Morgan. But I guess they're pretty wild out there in Arizona. It's not his fault. No. I mean, I'm trying to think of what song could have been there. In there. He says, throw a fucking bottle at the stage. I don't know.

About ad lib something. Yeah, maybe right in the middle of that. Just go ahead and let that thing go crazy. All right this one goes in this one goes in we'll use uh ck code pat 30 nope ck code pat just b a t to get 30 off Morgan Wallet tickets all right done all right full price i guess I guess. That stinks because where's he at next? Can you look it up? Where is he? I see where he is.

D-Bone? D-Bone, where's he at next? I think he has a tattoo on his back. He was in Arizona last week. He's got the entire man. He's got the entire tour. He's in Seattle? Where's he at after Seattle?

Glen Ellyn, Virginia. And? Santa Clara County. Santa Clara County. Santa Clara County. Santa Clara County. Santa Clara County. Santa Clara County. He's got the entire man set list. Yeah tour. You should see is it Seattle. Where's he at after Seattle? Uh, glen allen, virginia and And santa clara, california cleveland, ohio boxborough massachusetts. Oh, yeah Which one should we give tickets away to if this goes in all of them what Cleveland cleveland, ohio cleveland, ohio, jerry judy. Oh, they did some good in their lives

Yeah, we're gonna give four Morgan wall and tickets away because Jerry Judy's our favorite fucking player in the NFL Yeah, Jerry if this goes in yep Well, it can't be full never was meant to be all right Be a friend telephone something nice. It might change your life for interesting together shot to you AJ. We'll see you tomorrow boys Great work be friend telephone something nice it might change your life for interesting together shot to you AJ will see you tomorrow boys great Work be friend telephone something nice Team on me team on three. We'll see you tomorrow one two three. Good. Bye