The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1385 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Preseason Week 1 Recap, Adam Schefter, Dana White, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys are back from vacation breaking down everything that happened in week 1 of the NFL preseason, along with everything else that happened in the sports world while they were gone. Joining the progrum to chat about the biggest injuries thus far of the preseason and Micah Parsons contract situation is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, CEO and President of the UFC, Dana White joins the chat to chat about the new 7 year, $7.7 billion deal that the UFC and Paramount just signed. Lastly, 12 year NFL veteran and ESPN QB guru, Dan Orlovsky joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaway’s from the Quarterback play of week 1 of the NFL season. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome! Yeah! It's great to be here. It's our reaction Monday. August 11, 2025, this program begins now. Football! We're off a little bit, but we had a great time. We hope you did as well. You're going to see some tan skin, some fresh vibes,

and an excited group of dudes that are able to talk about a lot of sports happening, more specifically the NFL being all the way back. Obviously, we're in the middle preseason football. the middle preseason football there's a lot of storylines on narratives and injuries taking place we'll have adam schaefter joining us in about 15 minutes or so then we'll be joined by dana white congrats of dana white ufc and tk o they just signed a seven year 7.7 billion dollar deal with uh paramount uh plus i believe which is a skydance property it's also part of cbs uh for all united states events basically for the next seven years congrats of them

that's a long money that's great for sports and uh also it won't be uh paper view model. So you'll just say if you're a subscriber to the Paramount Plus operation, you'll just be able to see all the UFC stuff. You also see all Tom Cruise's stuff. You'll see South Park stuff. Feels like they are spending a lot of money and trying to do it differently than everybody else who obviously has these big events and then has people pay a price to do it. Like hey, how do we get people onto our platform? Well, we have a big event, have them have to pay for it, so now they're on a platform. That's kind of been this new streaming pay-per-view operation. This one allegedly just going to come with whatever it is. All their biggest events in the United States are going to be able to be watched just via the stream. stream on Paramount Plus if you're a subscriber. So congrats to them getting a deal done. Hopefully it works out for all parties. And we love when $7.7 billion is being poured into sports as opposed to other places. Dana White will join us in about 1240, 1245 to talk about that particular deal. And then the second hour, we'll have Dan Rolofsky.

Now, the reason why we're going to have Dan Rolofsky on is because I'm sure we're in the middle of the Dan wagon train situation right now. Dan's latching that wagon to a lot of different things. The Dan wagon, he's starting to really get rolling. Can't wait to hear his thoughts. He also ranked quarterbacks in like 14 different. things, top tens basically. Second reaction ability, mechanics ability, arm strength stuff, situational awareness, ball placement. I mean, you name it. Dan Olavski's judging them. We'll talk to him about it all. And also, there's one particular quarterback that's been

pretty absent from all of it. And he was the quarterback of the number one team in the NFC last year, the Detroit Lions. You don't see Jared Goff on any of this. Past offensive football. He don't see Jared Goff. He even did like mechanics, which I think he's where Jared Gough was like number nine. Number nine. Ball placement, uh-uh. Decision-making? Not a good enough.

Just there a little bit of heat between Rolovsky and Jared Gough? Back in Detroit? Hey, wait, you look a little bit too much like how I looked in that uniform. Just doing a little bit too good. Maybe a little bit of that. We'll talk to Dan about all of it.

The NFL being back is great. We've been watching all the clips. Hard knocks, obviously, out there. There's an SEC special on Netflix. Awesome. I mean, we've really taken advantage of last week and a half to try to digest it all. but I can't wait to chitchat about it all with a great group of dudes.

The talks at tables here at Boston Connor, anti-Schmidt-Kahnman, Newhead. Hey, we did it. We did it. I had extremely long hair was don't care now. It's just kind of long hair. I think I do care now, a lot more, especially with football being back.

It's incredible time to be alive right now and just having it on the TV, whether it's two minutes of good football or three minutes of good football or sometimes even no minutes of good football. It's just nice to have the football on the screen. A really good football out of the New England. Patriots off the kickoff. I think that got excited up there. I also like the way Vrabel's talking to people.

Yeah, and the way he's fighting people. Yeah, I like what the New England Patriots got going on, but that's part of the story. Let's go to at Ty Schmidt. Packers look good, brother. No, yeah, the Packers looks like hammered dog shit. So, you know, I know it's overreaction Monday. I've been trying not to, I didn't want to come in here and just. Yeah, of course, it's a good day.

Exactly. We're back. We're back. We're back. Great five. So we'll see. The one thing I am excited about, seemingly the only guy on the team, who can catch, because they were plagued by drops big time last year, is Matthew Golden.

So, you know, our first round draft picks looking great. Jordan Love throwing dots to guys, guys dropping them, defense didn't look great, a bunch of penalties. Not good. Preseason. Not good. Preseason. So I'm not going to over here.

Let's go to one half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys AP Town. You talk about dropping balls. There's a running back out of Iowa that you guys go out there. We need to be handing that thing to him every single time. How do you feel about the Pittsburgh Steelers, boss? Steelers looked really, really good against the Jaguars.

I mean, two of the best quarterbacks in preseason so far. I believe Mason was 9 of 10 with a touchdown to Darnel, Washington, which he's going to be used a ton this year. Mount Washington, watching Butta, the Baltimore Ravens fan, who exploded into everybody's algorithm because of a Lamar Jackson quote tweet, retweet. Him watching Mount Washington do his, I mean, out of Georgia, remember. People forget about him because Brock Bowers was the tight end that was getting the ball.

They just had a 6'4-320-pound guy that was able to move and jump over people, Block, and he's a Pittsburgh Steeler. Last year, I don't think they used them as much as they should. I think if you have a guy at 6, 7, 320 and they don't, and your guy can move and they can't, you should definitely utilize that. I assume Marty Smith will this year. Watching Budda, learn of this guy was

some of the greatest internet I've seen sometimes. His face just naturally sits in a, what's this shit? But I appreciate it. But I appreciate it, but yes, Mount Washington in real life, big. I mean, there's levels to this shit. He is a gigantic human. Vibes are high,

Finder's super high. Schuyler Thompson had a great game. Caleb Johnson, who you mentioned. Yes, he did have a couple of drops potentially or whatever. Has he ever caught a football? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good question. You can. I went to Iowa. Not at Iowa. He didn't.

They've never had it. They didn't throw the ball in Iowa. Him seeing the ball go through the sky. What is? What the hell? When did we start? Never seen a forward pass, but he broke outside on Travis Hunter. Just dog. So yeah, we're good. Vives are real high.

Okay, so that seems to be the attitude in a lot of places. Obviously, Packers fans a little bit, but they're doing the, nah, it's just preseason. nine-year NFL fan, ladies and gentlemen, Darry's Jake Bowler. DeButch, I know you're excited about this just as much as I am. Because preseason football brings out a lot of bruh, you know? Brat, bruh, he killed it. On the flip side, bruh, it's preseason.

So we thought it would only be right to put together the all-brough team. Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations to these fine gentlemen who have been stealing headlines throughout the preseason with their exquisite play in a football game that certainly will never go on the record. Nope. But we might remember forever. Now, it's the all bruh team, strictly because, bruh, you can fight either side of this thing. And I think it's a good thing that you play well in these situations that seemingly don't matter.

But there's a lot of chatter about the captain of this year's team. Captain? No questions asked. We should have put the C on a little bit earlier, but I just decided to put the C on him literally right now. Because it has captivated the fifth round pick. So I think we should judge it as a fourth. fifth round pick conversation. And I don't want to hammer home the same exact topics that everybody else is talking about. But holy shit, the way the Shador story is going right now is phenomenal.

For fodder. Yes. For fodder. For everything. Yeah. But also maybe for the Cleveland Browns. Now, you still get a couple of the other guys. Justin Fields comes out. He's obviously the fastest guy on the field still at all times. Congrats Aaron Glenn in the New York Jets. Maybe having an entire new world. Jackson Dart, don't look now. Wait a minute. can run and he's a gunslinger and he looks really cool very cool yeah he looks very cool having a great preseason us Tyler Warren yeah yeah he's bill of right stuff boys oh yeah he's out here doing it we don't know who the quarterback's going to be for the Indianapolis Colts but we do know that Tyler Warren is certainly going to be getting the rock

Jared Stuttum doing it yet again in another preseason Tanner McKee really changing the world tray Lance holy hell he can play football yeah Trayvion Anderson how you doing keep a move on and take one of the crib Willie Lampkin what a dog Legit. Absolute dog, this willy lamp. Yeah, probably the future of the Rams. If you're a Rams fan, all you're thinking to yourself is, holy hell, we've got a 5-11, 290-pound center

out of North Carolina who's basically AQ Chipley, but probably even a little cooler because he's fatter. No, no, he's lighter. Lighter, excuse me. Yeah, yeah, the complete opposite. He's probably a little bit quicker because he's lighter. Whenever A-Q was coming out, he's 5-11-355. This guy's 5-11-2-90.

You remember we've seen... Good dude. Oh, yeah. Different game. We've seen the trip. Sycicle. Well, and also, remember, A-Q, I don't know about him. Yeah, you're right.

AQ is a whole of the feat. I think Willie might be too. Yeah, I mean, we assume Lampkin will be able to pull it off. The rest of the boys obviously did incredible things. We have a kicker on the team in Cam Little. I assume there was a bunch of punters that did well. We apologize. We did not look through all the film of every punter.

So shout out to all of the punters that were punting in these preseason games. You guys did great. Unless you shanked one, then you know you suck. And you're not on his team. Sure. But if you hit a good ball, congratulations, you're on the squad. Cam Little hitting that 70-yard field goal. And brough.

It's preseason? Brow. the game doesn't matter bro snap hold kicks 70 yards anywhere practice you name it uh training camp middle of season prep in a game with refs and humans

watching pulling that off cam little absolute dog pal he's pro football writer association on a rookie team latch out of Arkansas a lot of moxie boys celebrated the shit out of him and also I love that down there in du vah they sent him out there for a 70 yard at the end of half as opposed to

some coach would be like let's just try a Hail Mary. You know, let's just try a Hail Mary. Cam Little hitting this. That means in practice he's hitting this on a pretty regular basis. That thing was beautiful. That thing was a no daughter. Congrats Cam Little. He's on a Y'all Brought team. Now, what does this mean for how his season will go? Last year, I think he missed two kicks. I think he was like 23 or 25 or something like that. 24 or 26. Really good. This kid might be the next one. And we'll be honored that he's a part of the old bra. Yeah. Alumni. Which is with the story of a lot of these guys, okay? Right now, the reason

why they're on the All Brought team is because there's so much confliction on whether or not they're actually good or if the game doesn't matter. You know, because you see Shador up there, our captain. Yeah, Captain, no Captain. Climbing. Just doing everything. Putting his head down. Walking in

the stadium music playing. Walking with a goddamn guy who had a staff, cornerback Tony Brown. This guy, he has a staff with him at all times when he's not playing ball. I love it. I watched the movie Jungle and Jungle when I was a kid. Tim Allen had to child with another lady

end up in the jungle. That kid comes in because the lady lives in the city. And he's dressed like how this guy dresses. Right. Yeah, I saw him walk on in the practice. There he is. It's a jungle to jungle.

I watched this movie, Tim Allen. It's an unbelievable thing. If this guy's playing for him, and Sheddor's playing for him, and they still got Miles. Don't forget Jerry Judy. Our favorite player.

He's on the all brought team. We'll be forever. Are the Cleveland Brown's a real deal? Or is this just? preseason game debuts and the fact that shouldora was damn near perfect had two touchdowns had dance had Nike had immediately afterwards had the world talking it doesn't matter because it's preseason or is this a sign of things to come debuts i mean definitely had the world talking NFL probably tweeted him out in every clip about 30 40 times when he was playing so yeah everybody's

watching there's been a lot of conversation about him since he dropped in the draft and yeah the question always different regardless of which side of the argument you're on you're going to stay on that side. Oh, he played great. It's just a preseason. Oh, he stunk. Oh, I told you he was going to stink. But he showed up, all the pressures on him, all the lices on him. But let's get to the tape. Preseason games are pretty much glorified practices, but just like a little with that long field goal. When you have live reps, which you really never have with quarterbacks pressure on them, that's why it counts. So, look, rolling out right here to his left. Step up. This is a play you see week in and week out. NFL reset his feet. It's a right-handed

quarterback. It's tough. Flip your hips. And then you make an accurate throw over the low flat defender accurately to that tight in who wins the leverage late against the cornerback. Great throw, great ball placement. That's what you want to see out of your rookie quarterback. He was a fifth round pick. We all know he shouldn't have been, but he's showing up and taking advantage of the opportunity. A lot of people talking about, hey,

he's getting in there. He's getting set up for failure. Nah, the NFL, regardless of where you're drafted. What was all that talk? I mean, he didn't have any reps with the first team and they're throwing them out there still. Yeah, but the first team wasn't going to be on the field. Yeah, well, that's not how it works. So if you're not getting reps with the first team, the first team's not going to be on the field, that shouldn't

affect what you're happening. But, like, I do appreciate that everybody was kind of going to bat form before the game was even played. Like, kind of, because that is a reality of situation. Like, there's some quarterbacks that are going to look like shit because they don't have an offensive line block for them or they don't have any wide receivers that know the goddamn routes. So you can definitely set a precedent. I didn't like that they were just like, oh, they're throwing, he's getting screwed, basically, for starting in this game. I thought that was very interesting take. So I was very appreciative of the fact that he went out there and played well, and that didn't end up being the thing because I was like,

You know, this is what we want to see, right? Don't we want to see the door? And every time we heard him talk, every time you hear him talk, all he talks about is just being thankful for the opportunity. And that's what you want as a player. You just want the opportunity. So screw all the other stuff. Regardless of when that comes, we all hear as athletes, the Wally Pip story.

And as a quarterback, as any type of player, you never want somebody taking those reps. Now, preseason is a little different ball game, but I'm glad he took advantage of it. Our second play we got here, which we all saw, once again, stepping up. Once again, a live rep. So you got pressure in your face. This is what you're going to have to do as a quarterback. NFL. Step up in dirty pockets,

pressure in your face, stare him down, keep your eyes down and feel and make you accurate throw. Most of these dig balls, you want one to two yards right outside the dash marks. He put that ball right on them with two guys in his face. It's exactly what you want to see from a quarterback, especially young quarterback. If there is one thing he learned at Colorado, and Pat talked about this a lot the last couple years, it's how to throw

with dudes in his face because he was the most pressured quarterback in Colorado, and he was tough as shit. Yeah, also he, yeah, flexed on him after me. I mean, there was some blindside shots where he's fully exposed at Colorado and he steps in the throw, dime, and then earhole

in 2024. No penalty somehow because he's outside the pocket and everything like that. And then he's literally up celebrating with the guy he just threw a touchdown to it's like that type of toughness is real and you can't teach it, I don't think. And that'll probably be the biggest area for improvement for him. He did

take a couple sacks, I think on third down where, you know, extending plays, running back, you can't really do that in the league. Guys are too fast, too physical. But he learned from it. And something he showed, too, was more of his athleticism, being able to run the ball, break the pocket. And this next clip, you'll see him actually break the pocket. This is where pressure from his right side, D.N. puts the pressure on.

He squeezes out to the right. Once again, got his face accurate, throw it over the top. Great, one-handed catch. But that's exactly when you want to put that ball if you're a quarterback. With the guy, you always hear it in the meetrooms. If you're D-Lyman, you're rushing the quarterback, get that left up. You throw it over the top. Great rain-drop ball to the receiver.

Unfortunately, pulled his hammy. I think we got some bad news with him. He's been released. But he'll be out two to three weeks. He's not getting surgery at grade two something. Hopefully gets another opportunity somewhere, but it's a tough time. He could have been on the old bruh. It's tough time.

He's on the sorry, bro, team. No, but he's not sorry, bro. Which I guess he's a part of the... The art team. Yeah, that's a part of the old brother team. I'm sorry team, bro. We're sorry. We're sorry, we're sorry, we're sorry, bro.

First team. And then his last clip up. He's captain of the first team. I hope so. I think he is actually. He's probably the cast. Browns are producing captains right now at a high club. Uh-oh.

Preseason football. Uh-oh. AFC Northern. Hi, this last clip in the rear of his second touchdown of the game. Once again, trust in his protector. You'll see the back scan across, pick him up, step up in the pocket, reset the feet, and make an accurate throw across the middle. It's going to be a little tighter windows on Sundays when the game matters.

But once again, this is what you want to see from your quarterback, getting actual live reps with a bunch of guys you probably didn't have a bunch of reps with. That is important. You know, people made a big story out of it, but you never know when you're going to get the opportunity. Even as a DB, like you weren't as comfortable going into games if you didn't take reps with a nickel or a corner or a safety or linebackers that you've been communicating with and getting those things pre-snap and post-snap. So that is a big thing. But I loved everything I saw from, you know, really all the young quarterbacks. Highland Shuck made some good throws.

Cam Moore, who's not getting talked about as much as a number one pick. He made some good throws. Jackson Dart, you mentioned him. He made some good throws. But I think the most, the brightest light was definitely. on Shador Sanders and he stepped up absolutely a lot of eyes on that game strictly because Shador's there so for as much as the people that don't like it they're all watching yeah he's got a Floyd Mayweather appeal right now the

people that they don't like oh yeah the people that don't like them now for us that are big time coach prime fans yeah yeah mm-hmm you see him on that few oh yeah yeah back where he's supposed to be and I enjoy Shador in the way he's handled it all you know and the whole family the way they operate so for me to see him go out and do well I think it was cool. Yeah. I think it was very cool.

Now, bro, we do have to keep everything in perspective here. It's preseason. And that's why we got a couple more preseason games left. And we will overreact to all of it. Every single time. And then the real season will come around and guess what will happen? We'll go, not of that matter. You remember what Kenny Pickett did in 2023?

That's why he's on the bottom right corner of this particular draft, the All Brought team. Because let's not get captivated here. This can go a way where he ends up being a Super Bowl champion for another team. sure that happens so you have a great preseason there's a chance that it doesn't go great with your team but you could go on to win super bowl somewhere else right so that's what all the all brought team members need to look forward to after week one for most of these never forget kenny 13 to 15 200 yards five straight touchdown drives to start that season wow remember that tone came in here steels are back seven's back on it's not yeah exactly it's not even just Kenny picket I think it was

just the entire offense as a whole yeah because you know and then the season happened if you recall worst offense in the history of NFL football? Yeah, that's when Deonti Johnson exploded. It was the worst in the history of football. They were chanting to fire the offensive coordinator in Utah, in Utah,

the country. The state of Utah. J.M.U. Deg's dressed up like the devil on Halloween, as Matt Canada. I mean, that's how bad it was. Some of my best. But in 2023 in that preseason, they were, you guys were winning the Super Bowl. The bell of the ball. So let's not get too

But let's not get too low, but let's make sure we celebrate those who are doing well, because it's better than doing ass. So congratulations to the boys. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the senior NFL insider for ESPN, front of the program, Michigan, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schaftier. Hey, Shafty. Shafky, what's up, brother? Hello, everybody. How are we doing?

I'm on the drive to Bristol, so hopefully we don't hit any bad Wi-Fi zones, but bear with me, and hopefully we can make it through uninterrupted. It's okay. That's the home of sports coverage, you know, up there in Bristol, Connecticut. I put a good tweet out about that place during the break, had a lot of action. Tell those people I said hello up there. Now, on that note, you've been in this game a long time, long time. How many preseason is this? Do you remember?

I've covered the league for over 35 years, so by 35th or 6 preseason. Okay, the Shador hype. How regular, is this like once every 10 years, something like this happens? Like, how often do you think this type of situation, especially because, because he's delivering. He delivered in a big way. And he has said everything right. He went to Cleveland early to go be in the community.

Fifth round pick of this team. Now, granted, the people that hate him say, oh, this is bullshit. But the people that support them and think, like, hey, maybe there's a chance here are like, hey, keep going. What are your thoughts on it? And how regular of a situation is this in over your 35 years? Well, I think there are always players

that get your attention to the preseason. But again, very rarely have we ever seen a player who was projected to be a first round pick or a high pick fall to the fifth round and play quarterback and go through everything that Shador went through the first couple nights of the draft? I remember Friday night, Pat, as the third round was coming to a close, the number of texts that I got from people in other communities like acting, music, other. sport. It was crazy the amount of people that were interested in why he slid to where he did. And he wound up going in the fifth round, so there was a ton of attention. It carries over to the preseason. And I could just think of certain quarterbacks at certain times that flashed and topped in the preseason the way that Shador did on Friday night. Now, again, I want to be very clear. One game. One game. So we'll see. But you couldn't help.

Watch that one game and not be impressed by what he did that night. He threw the ball really well. He was accurate. He was composed. He was poised. He was all the things that you want to see. And I think that's what you're looking for right away is guys show right away it's not too big for them. They belong.

They can play or it is too big for them. And they can't play. And they don't belong. And Shador looked like he belonged. And so, yeah. I mean, again, when I think back, on quarterbacks in the preseason. Russell Wilson in 2012

popped right away. And that was an offseason in which the Seahawks paid a lot of money from Matt Flynn as a free agent quarterback and they traded for Charlie Whitehurst. And I think back to when the Cowboys drafted Dak Prescott

and then he came on and lit it up in the preseason played exceptionally well. And you could just watch those guys right away and say, they got it. They got it. And that's the way, for what, game. It looked for Shador, but you know what? The one game now leads to conversations about how much time he's going to get in the second game. And because now you have to take a longer

look. Now we got to see, okay, well, what was this about? Did we all miss on this guy in the draft? Did he fall farther than he should? Was everybody right about him? And the teams were wrong? Like, he had so many fans who thought he should go so high. And Mel Khyper thought he she goes so high and he goes to the fifth round and now and again there's one game I want to emphasize one game but it was a great start it was a great start and I my

entire thing has led to he could have played like ass and he didn't he played great so it's like how do we judge we can only judge off what we see now who he's playing against who he's playing with not NFL okay that's not irrelevant irrelevant no no no but I would like to say this though I'd like to say

this we have to remember he's fifth round pick okay that's how the teams are going to him. That's how Cleveland's going to view him because they invested that in him. So when you talk about playing in the preseason, it's like you're talking about how much time, like this is when fifth round picks would be, I mean, this is their time, this is their shot. So any opportunity

to get on the field, I think is great, even if he's not with guys that he's familiar with, this is the NFL, this is what preseason is for, hopefully he'll continue to go. Now, preseason, also devastating for some teams every single year, injuries happen. These injuries take place, and all of a sudden before the season even begins, we didn't have a chance to have

our full roster, especially with all of our talent. Left tackle for the Chargers, obviously, sad. I mean, absolutely devastating situation. Happy he got paid, and once again, this is why people look for deals as opposed to getting franchise tagged and everything like that, because you never know what's going to happen in a sport that is so combative and physical. Now, Matthew Stafford, I think McVeigh and everybody said he's going to be okay. Landon Dickerson, Heartbreaker over there in Philly, got carted out. Obviously, that offensive line, they are what they are. Lucas, Matt, Rondell, Anthony, Najee, is there anything else we should be looking at?

And how do you classify these injuries if you just kind of want to go through the list yourself? Well, first of all, in Alexander Madison, the Dolphins running back, goes down yesterday in the game against the Bears. Neck injury gets taken by ambulance to a local hospital in Chicago where he proceeds to go, undergo season-ending neck surgery. So you could add Alexander Madison to that list. There's a terrible injury. unfortunate and I think they got a good

prognosis from the surgery to where they think he'll be able to play again next year. But Rishon Slater he becomes the highest paid offensive linemen in NFL history on July 27th and then a mere 10 or so

days later basically ruptures his Patel tendon and need surgery and he's out for you. Matthew Stafford's been dealing with a back but the Rams really look 36 years old back quarterback going to take hits backs don't seem to get better but i think he's going to be okay um i was in their building last week and they're i mean if they're in a game right now today matthew stafford

is playing okay so they're trying to maintain him and make sure that that he's going to be as healthy as he can be when the season opens landin dickerson's having an MRI on his knee today we'll see what comes back there he's been a warrior in the NFL level has not missed any time but as a history of knee injuries in college that led to him falling into the second round. Lucas Neang, out for the year. Matt Hennigan, torn Achilles, Ron Dale Price, knee injury.

Sounds like the season's over. Anthony Richardson, dealing with the pinky issue, which isn't long-term. And Najee Harris, you didn't include Dion Bush, the chief safety, who ruptured his Achilles

on Saturday, night like there are the the ravens have lost some rookie cornerbacks to knee injuries listen it's the worst part of the preseason inevitably guys come back and these guys are so big and so strong and so fast yeah of course some of these injuries unfortunately are inevitable and to your point to your point though this is why like if i'm micha parsons or or Trey Hendricksson or Terry McClore. You've got to be really careful. One practice. One practice.

Yeah, you need to remember that. You need to remember that whenever you're reporting your inside information from the teams. They've offered everything they possibly could to Trey Hendricks. He needs to do that. And it's like, you get shown these stats. You know, like, hey, there's a chance tomorrow. You go out there one dip and rip

and your elbow, shoulder, knee, and ankle. I'll just give up. How about old buddy from the Ravens? Was that his? Mike Green. Oh, my. That is what they are talking about, whenever they talk about going around the edge. So that's scary stuff.

It's no fun. It seems to happen every single preseason. Also, another injury not on there. Go ahead. Jerry Jones mentioned that. Obviously, that's why he was kind of weird of paying guys. But speaking to Jerry Jones, his guy that wasn't on that list, and those are serious injuries, T's and P's.

We got an update on CD Lamb. We saw him take a hell of a shot on the sideline, the Cowboys preseason game. Any update on CD? Well, he got penalized on this play, which was one of the craziest highlights of the weekend. He has his hands up, the official collides, C.D. Lamb goes down. It was the hardest hit. He took all game. And he got penalized on the play.

The league is reviewing it to see if there will be a fine that's necessary, which would obviously add insult to injury or money to injury. Unfortunately, he's okay. Look, everybody's laughing. him, but you get hit like that. I know it's just an official, but you're not expecting it. Who knows what could happen? Official, to be clear.

Lowman does win all the time. And that official had pretty good. He did perform. Yeah, he showed up in training camp looking good, feeling good about the year. C.D. like, oh, that would suck so bad. I'm not right. Rewinded it again. Like, explain to me,

you guys are football. Like, what is he celebrating? Like, this guy's wide open. What do you think, Chef? touchdown wide open yeah okay but did they complete the best did they score no no but chef that he's celebrating his boy this is the wide receiver room and he's literally pointing at him saying hey we got him we got him we got him probably probably knew the call knew it's gonna be double moves in a nutshell see that's him scoring a touchdown if this is called in the regular season yeah he knew the call knew the through the coverage knew everything hey this could be this guy right and it is yeah

touchdown knew it touchdown and the refs like uh outfielder running for a home run. Yeah, right to the wall. With no, I mean, his whole face is on CED's back. Yeah, and he's got a stiff chest when he's running too. I mean, that's, yeah. Great posture, great belt, but we always get told on that sideline, regardless of what level of football, but especially in NFL, get back, stay off the

white, usually a get back coach or someone. CD knows, I mean, he's used to being on the field, obviously, but he knows, I'm sure he'll get a talking to it. That was a player a little lower in the roster, it'll be a bigger, deal, but they'll probably find them just to make it a bigger statement across the lead, because that is a big deal for refs to do their job. Did the ref finish the game, Chef? Of course.

Yeah, oh, yeah, he's probable for this week. He'll be back for preseason week, too. He's wherever to go. He should be an all-brother thing. All right, let's talk a little bit more about one. He should be, hey, that ref? Yeah. He's the official official of the All-Brah team.

Bro, you're running really fast. Brough, a little awareness. Ref, hope you're all right, ref. Good work, bro. Good work, bro. Great work, bro. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Shephti, I wanted to ask about another player in Dallas, one that we also did not see on the field. Micah Parsons, he did a thank you Dallas situation where he put out. It was a long note section.

Are we anywhere new on the Jerry and Micah and getting a new contract? Is he going to be there week one? Do we know? See, also, can I quickly, Micah, when we screenshot that, we can't be repeating sentences. You can edit that thing. Screenshot it, put it down. so then we don't have to go back through and I read this thing four times.

Anyways, but Micah, I appreciate you getting your thoughts out there and I like that you use your notes section. I also use that section. This is wonderfully put together and I think you thanked everybody, but I was not happy about the... Micah, you got your own show. You got a big brain. You're a smart guy, you get the biz. You could just...

Just crop it down. Come on. Come on. Message show got across this, Chefty. I read it four times. It was a lot. A lot of words. You didn't read it. I did. I read it twice. Dev, you read it? No. That's why you don't know what I'm saying. So, like, the end of this sentence is not the beginning of the next picture.

It is like, like, find it in the middle. We go three sentences back. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, hey, picture one, we should just have a thing. Picture two, page two. We're going to new stuff. You know what I mean? I'm OG notes screenshot sender.

Yeah. O.G. I'm new school. Just chat, GBT. Summarize this in three sentences. Oh, my gosh. See, that's not good. That's a problem.

That's not good. I'm not reading. Have you seen the brain memes about the chat GPT people? I don't believe. And the studies? I like that. Did chat GPT tell you to say that? Maybe.

Let me ask chat GPT, what my thoughts are on how chat GPT is affected by. Very nice. Anyways, go ahead. Shephti, sorry, buddy, we ruined all that. That's a guy, Micah, I think it's unbelievable that that statement came out about 10 days ago. And since that statement came out, there have been zero contract talks. between the Dallas Cowboys and Micah Parsons. Now, you would think that something like that would trigger some conversation

to get everybody all sides in one room to try to get a deal done. And in fact, it feels like it's done the opposite. It feels like Micah is disappointed and bothered. By the way, the Cowboys have done their business. It feels like the Cowboys are bothered and disappointed that Micah would make his feelings known like that asked for a trade. Jerry Jones felt like he had a deal in place with Micah that isn't going to get done right now.

And now all of a sudden, there are a whole host of new issues that we have to ask if these two sides are unwilling to talk, which has been the case, and unwilling to negotiate. So, okay, now we got Micah Parsons, who says he is back tightness. And he's not practicing. Oh, classic. You remember the hamstring in the NBA? That's a good one.

Back tight. You know, I'll bet you back tightness can linger for a long time. And back tightness. Hope he's healthy. Yeah, usually lingers when contract negotiations usually are not progressing. So the Cowboys open their regular season three weeks from Thursday night against the Philadelphia Eagles. And Jerry Jones himself has said that he doesn't know. and may not expect Micah to play in that opening game against the Eagles.

And so now they're making no progress. They're not talking about a new deal. And unless things change, you have to wonder where this is going. The Cowboys have said they're not. They're not interested in trading them. That's what they say. But at some point in time, if you're not going to sign the guy, then you're going to move the guy. There's two choices.

sign them or trade them. And right now, they're not talking contract. He's got a tight back. And so who knows where this is? Hey, my question for you, Schaeffer, with all this, and the tight back, obviously, we hope he's okay. He's a special talent on football field. We would hope to watch him all year.

But if that back does get a little bit better if you sleep on a pile of money, we also have seen this in the past in this entire thing. As your connection goes unstable in this entirety. Jerry Jones said, Jay-Z, is this real? I've been seeing a lot of quotes about him dealing with Jay-Z with Rock Nation agency back in the day. Jerry, like, Jerry didn't negotiate deals with agents? Why does this continue to be talked about as if this is like his thing?

Like, yeah, I don't talk to the agents. Like, how have you got every, everybody represents himself that plays for the Cowboys? Yeah, no, no, no. I think, I think over time, Jerry has had a history of doing some of his biggest deals with some of his most well-known players exactly a handshake bat he gets them in he's talking to him and in this particular case jerry felt like he had a deal but but micah and his agent never felt like there was a deal uh there's no paper there's no contract there's no nothing that was presented maca feels or jerry feels like he was wronged oh yeah so there's two

there's two different interpretations two different interpretations of the events that went on in the discussion between Jerry and Micah. The bottom line is they're nowhere right now, and it feels like the state of the relationship has gotten worse, and again, it's going to be really interesting to see how tight Micah's back is on opening night. Yeah, I hope we see Micah.

I hope they get a deal done. I'm going to say this, for how good of a player Micah has been with being a first-round pick for the Dallas Cowboys, with the night he gets drafted saying he dreamt of being a Dallas Cowboy and all that, for him to go into his fifth year of his rookie contract without a new deal is

abnormal. Not just for like Dallas Cowboys, I think just for that position, that player for any team, first rounder, for you to hit like you hit, and not get a deal done going into the fifth round, going into the fourth year, abnormal. Going into the fifth year, which is the bonus year that they had to tag on top

from, let alone the two franchise tag years we got ahead of this. Very abnormal. This is a very weird situation in my eyes. And Jerry, you know, he's got a documentary coming out here in about eight days. That's right. The gambler and a cowboy. America's team, August 19th, 2025.

I wonder if the last chapter would be him and Mikea doesn't know I had to mic'd up. We were talking to one of my rooms. We agreed to a deal. You say we didn't agree. It's right here. It's in a documentary. America's team. Shook Hayne.

The game learned of cabal. Old school. So he feels like he was wronged is what you're saying. Like business-wise, he feels like he was bamboozled by Micah. Is that kind of the thought? Because if that is the case, I think Jerry's type of guy who will be. oh yeah oh yeah fuck this is that accurate is that how this is being

and we lose him that's a big piece of information here this is a big piece of information that's that's why I understand maybe he's done that in the past but if you are Micah and you're playing this position this is a position that Miles Garrett resetted T.J. Watt just jumped him and you're right in line like you said he's done

everything right from day one even last year like he was battling through some injuries when he could easily set out you know looking forward to getting his contract done and when you're Michael and you have one of the best agents in the game represent you, it would be terrible for you. And I'm sure that PA wouldn't want him to do this anyway, to represent

yourself in these negotiations. Oh, you know, let me shake your hand because this is how you've done it. That's ridiculous. This is too much money at stake for Michael to do. And Jerry, he can do it. He's going to be around for, you know, his business is going to be there forever in his family. But Michael, he done the right thing. Get your business done right. Yeah, and also

I'm okay with deals getting done via a handshake. This is for a future reference. But got to hammer out all the details on paper. I mean, that is legitimately how it all works. Hey, Shepter, we're kind of hypothesizing about the entire situation here.

So Jerry believes, and let me get, this is probably already been reported, so I apologize, we're on beach. Yeah, exactly. Somewhere on a beach. Um, strong. New baby. She's awesome.

All day long. Jerry feels wronged by Micah because they had a handshake deal that Micah then reneged on in this entire thing. That's how he views it. I think Jerry feels like they had the makings of a deal, if not an agreement in place. He talked to reporters last week about the fact that when he bought the Cowboys, it was a handshake deal. That's what he said.

And he's done a lot of handshake deals over time. And again, Micah feels like he never saw a contract. Never agreed to anything. His agent never signed off on anything. And so there are a whole host of issues there. And again, you mentioned Micah's draft class. If you look it up, look at all the players around him and in front of him that have already been paid. Any good player in front of him, from Jamar Chase to Devante Smith to Penesoul to 13.

Most of those are J.C. Horn, Sertan. They've all been paid already. and Micah has not been. And so he's watching his draft class all get paid. He's watching the top pass rushers across the league, whether it's Max Crosby, Daniel Hunter, T.J. Miles, T.J. Watt all get paid, and he's not.

Not only is he paid, his own team is not even talking to him and he feels insulted by what they've said about him in the summer. So again, I just think it's a situation that's gone the opposite direction and they're further apart from the deal today. than they were in, let's just say, March or early April. Jeez. So he was 12th overall in that particular draft. If you were not just take against his draft class, who all got paid,

I think if you were to take him, his stats, his draft thing, and also saying, I dreamt of being on this team on draft night and put them into their, like the simulation, everybody's getting paid on their fourth year. Everybody. Micah needs to go back into his office, though, brother. Micah, you need to go back in there. You got to do one of these things.

I think if you want to get a deal done, I think that's what you're probably going to have to do. Just after watching Jerry and Landman, you know, it feels like that, especially the way he talks about it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong because people can forget how a handshake's supposed to go, too, you know? Some people can have one view of what a handshake deal looks like,

and the others have another view of what the handshake deal actually is. And then whenever it gets put on paper, it's like, wait a minute, we didn't talk about this particular thing, and then you can get pretty offended. So I think you should go back in there and shake his hunt. But I also think he should have been paid already. And I'm also starting to think Jerry maybe, like maybe that thing used to go 96. I think we're throwing BP maybe.

88. Yeah, I think we might be throwing BP all of a sudden. Yeah, I'll watch the gambler and the cabboys for sure. But, I mean, there's a chance. Okay, let's talk about somebody else that may be, I don't know if you won't get paid before his fifth year. Will the fifth year even happen? Yeah, that's a good question. We're talking about super hype.

okay a lot of hype most hype that I've heard in some time generational hype that comment yeah Schaefter obviously a lot of the quarterbacks play not all of the quarterbacks play but the biggest ones you know Mahomes burrow some other guys also Caleb Williams kind of in that category of dudes you would expect to see in preseason week one new offense the whole nine with Ben Johnson we don't see any Caleb Williams instead. Some speculation on the internet is claiming that he did not play because he does not know

how to run Ben Johnson's offense yet. Is that the case? And how closely should we be looking at Chicago as a spot that's not a proven year for the quarterback, but definitely a pivotal year in his organizational kind of tenure for Chicago?

Yeah. Well, I think what happened here is that the dolphins got to Chicago last week on Wednesday. And they had intra-squot scrimmages where coaches can control that. And Caleb got plenty of work against the dolphins. And so if you're not going to stick out your regulars and you're not going to stick your first team offensive line in, oftentimes you don't want to stick your quarterback in there.

And I think Ben Johnson felt like Caleb got the work in a controlled environment that he needed to. Now, I will say this, it's a little odd that in the same game, Tootungle by Lowe is out there. playing in a pre-season game and Caleb Williams is not. Joe Burrow, who hasn't played in a pre-season ever, is out there this weekend, and Caleb Williams, who's learning a new offense, is

not. So it seems a little odd in that sense, but I'm just telling you that their thinking was that Caleb got to go against the dolphins in practice all week long in a controlled setting where he gets to wear a jersey, where he's not subjected to hits, and they got

the work that they felt they needed to get in with them, during the course of last week without having to put him out there Sunday and risking injury behind a backup offensive line. All right, I respect that move, I do, and I respect the way Ben Johnson, that guy's back with the Chargers, can't wait to see what he does. I respect

that Ben Johnson is trying to change the culture there, too, seemingly a little bit more accountability driven, a little bit more hard-nosed, a little bit more of a hard-ass. It feels like he got juiced up. I think there was a fourth and goal stop that they had. He's out on the field flex, and I think Miami got them back later with a fourth and goal stop as well on the other side. It was

good joust between EC. I will say there was some moments in there. The Caleb shit's, there he is, there's the actual flex I was talking about. The Caleb stuff on the internet is loud. Should it be? What are you hearing out of Chicago? Like he talked, I'm sorry, Connor talked about it being maybe a proof of year.

Sean Payton goes into Denver as you're mid-blink there, I know, take it all in. He goes out to Denver and has the capability, basically, move on from Russell Wilson if it doesn't work out. Ben Johnson went there because of Caleb. He's there to make Caleb good. What is the pressure on Caleb this year? And what is the reality of the situation currently?

I think that there's pressure on every quarterback every year, and they did everything to uplift Caleb this year, from hiring the head coach to all the moors that they made. They went out and traded for two offensive linemen. They signed another. They signed Drew Dolman and Free agency. They trade for Jonah Jackson. They trade for Joe Tuny.

They hire a coach to elevate care. This is all designed to make sure that Caleb Williams is a massive success, because that's the type of talent that he has. So, yeah, of course, this pressure on him because everything they've done has been geared to making him better. So it's up to him. Now, if this season went on and he didn't play well,

well, that pressure is going to only rise next year. It's going to get ratcheted up. But I think there's pressure on all these guys every year. Everybody's watching to see how it goes. And this organization, I think, has given him everything that he could want to play to the best of his abilities. Come on, Caleb. We can't wait to watch.

There's some Caleb shit that he can do that nobody else could do, and we're excited to watch it. Hopefully all come to fruition. Last question here is we have Mr. Dana White joining us in about a minute and a half. Chefty, where do we stand on the Colts QB battle? It seemed like going into their first game against the Ravens. The tide had kind of turned, and Anthony Richardson, everyone talked about how good he'd look, you know, new body, all that kind of stuff.

And then very early on, he gets smacked in the teeth real hard, dislocates his pinky. Shane Steichen did mention today that he's full going practice today. he's good. He's going to play on Saturday against the Packers, although Danny Dimes will start. What are you hearing about this battle? Because going into the game, it certainly did seem like it was Anthony Richardson's job to lose. Well, it did, and now it still seems like it's a battle that hasn't been decided, and it still feels like a battle that's going to play itself out here in the final couple of weeks of the preseason. I don't think the Colts sound ready to make a decision just yet. And Anthony Richardson obviously needs to do a better job at picking up

but seeing things recognizing certain situations and most important whether it was or wasn't his fault, staying healthy. I know it's not his fault. This guy comes around. He doesn't respond quick enough. Somebody missed him. Whatever it may be. But it's another injury. Fortunately, it was not more severe. He's able to bounce back. But I don't think this team has decided who its quarterback is going to be yet. I think the job is there to be one. still and one of these guys is going to have to go out and win it the next couple of weeks. So a lot of quarterbacks say, hey, you got to know that that's coming. But then also I saw a lot of people who are fans of the game say, nope, that's sure the guy

should have been blocked. So, I mean, there's a lot of, a lot of congestion about it or whatever, conjecture about it. All I know is he's still playing. That's a big shot. Yeah. That was a very big shot. I'm not looking a shot almost exactly like that in the actual game. But yeah, I mean, who knows who it was on.

Looks like, yeah, who knows who was on. But yeah, you got to stay healthy. You know, your ability is the best availability. We're still believe ours, brother. All right, we appreciate your safe travels. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Sheffield. Like Danny Dimes, too. It's like a crazy.

I've seen some highlights out of Danny Dimes. I mean, if you think about a guy who's 14, 16 years old, how old is Anthony Richardson? Yeah, 23. 21 years old, 23, whatever it is. Still got all the talent in the world. Like his prep before practices. Oh, yeah.

Don't love that he got an injury early because that kind of adds to this guy. always hurt dislikated pinky not like he's fine we move along you got you got an all brought player so who even cares in a d. Mitchell I mean all the highlights coming out of him are incredible speaking of highlights how about seven years seven point seven billion dollars ladies and gentlemen the man who uh I don't know his official title we just assume runs the UFC president CEO super duper boss a man who was smoking a cigar and his IG story today saying

It's going to be a good day. You're damn right, ladies gentlemen, Dana White. Yeah, Dana. Congratulations. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it. No problem.

I like the TKO group shirt. Hey, I like what we're doing here. Okay, obviously, WWE gets massive deal done with ESPN. UFC gets huge deal done here with Paramount Plus in Skydance.

I believe it's P. Sky is their particular publicly trading thing. How's this come together, Dana? This is a huge swing by Paramount to get into sports. sports full time. How pumped were you that they were a part of this? And, you know, is this where you thought you were going to end up at like a month ago? I agree with everything you just said. Yes, you know, we've been going through the process. No, I didn't think this is

where we would end up, but this is sort of how it played out. I love it. These guys are obviously very smart guys, very aggressive. And when you think about streaming, right? Streaming incredible. You know, when they drop a great show, the problem with the whole services, I can watch it tonight or I can watch it two years from now. Live sports is going to be a big deal, you know, with all these streaming services. And, you know, we're going to play a big part in it. And when you look at Paramount Plus, right, this new deal that we're going into, you get to watch all the UFC programming on there, no pay-per-view anymore. You know, it's $13 or whatever it is

and you get everything. Plus, these guys have South Park, Yellowstone. I've been talking about Mobland now. Ironical. Unreal. Tom Cruise. They got Tom Cruise. Just all of Tom Cruise as well, brother. Palsa King. I mean, the list goes on and on of all the content that they have, great shows.

So now you get you know, all the UFC content plus, you know, all this other great content, too, TV shows. And they have much bigger plans ahead and we are very aligned with them and I'm excited to be in business with the Ellison's. We're very excited that they're getting into sports in the way that they are.

You know, Dad, Larry, I believe, he paid, what, $100 million for that kid to go play quarterback in Michigan? He just dropped 100 million. They're going to boy now running Paramount Plus. I'm excited they're getting into sports in a way that they are in Skydance, I think, has a deal with the NFL to make movies about sports.

So I appreciate you trailblazing into the sports world and continuing to keep it moving there. Now, this is for all events right is that accurate yeah this is this is just for us so we'll still go out and cut different deals uh you know in different territories but you know when when you get in business with it with a global uh sport like us i mean i'm sure they have plans uh we haven't got that far yet but you know plans to to go into other other countries too let's talk about the pay-per-view model being uh done here for you usually these streaming services as they're gathering an audience

try to host a big event to draw people in and then they hope their shit keeps them there okay we're gonna have a big event and then we'll keep our shit now Netflix just been building since the beginning their blockbuster so they got everybody everybody else has to have these live events to bring people in amazon was doing with like music i think they're having like big concerts then they got in the NFL now they're getting in sports ESPN plus UFC other pay per views they get in there to have these events so with paramount plus saying hey we just want people to be subscribers and enjoy it they have to have a pretty big audience base already i would assume and how do you view this? Do you think it's going to be a success

in how everybody else is going to end up doing it in this particular world? Yeah, I think that, you know, I think all these streaming services, no matter who they are, have to be involved in live sports. You know, any type of sport, you have to watch it live. Nobody's going to watch

a taped or delayed, you know, sporting event. So yeah, I think they all have to have it. And it's going to be fun because, you know, there's all these disruptors in business right You know, when you think about us growing up, I never thought taxi cabs would go away, or, you know, cable television would crumble and go away. It's fascinating to see all that.

And, you know, we're always on the top of new technology and trying new things. You know, I left I left DirecTV and went to ESPN Plus. And, you know, when you make these decisions, it's scary at the time, but one of the greatest decisions I ever made. My relationship with ESPN over the last seven years has been amazing. We had our bumps and bruises in the beginning and figuring out how to work with each other and it's been great. I have nothing but amazing relationships with ESPN.

They help take us to this next level. So, and Fox before them and Spike TV before them. Our Spike TV days. What a run they had. Now's not the time, Paramount Plus, doing great. Spike TV had a, late night Spike used to be a slam ball. Hey, thank you for giving me through a lot of parts of my life, Spike TV. Speaking of your ESPN relationship, the ninth season of Dana White's Contender Series

debuts tomorrow night exclusively on ESPN Plus. Yeah, let's go! Nine seasons! I love this show. I'm actually in Miami right now. I'm moving my daughter into school down here. She's going to the U. And, yeah, we're excited.

And moving her into school, then I fly back tomorrow for the Contender Series. The greatest show on television. I love the Contender Series. and I'm looking very forward to this next season. Also, the contender series is TV contracts are up in the next... I'm joking. I'm joking. Speaking of this Paramount Plus deal, $13 for an entire month. Going to get one of the biggest fights in the cards of all time.

Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Dana, obviously, the fight this weekend is a massive one, DDP and Comzat. What are you expecting from the card this upcoming weekend? And how is Chicago as a whole when it comes to a venue? Awesome. You know, we haven't been to Chicago since, pre-COVID, so

it's good to get that. Carred sold out. Main event is badass. That's going to be a fun fight, and I'm looking forward to Chicago, too. I'm keto right now. I'm probably going to jump off keto for a couple days, but I get to Chicago. Oh, no, I think if you jump off a couple of days,

have maybe a little bit of that lasagna pizza that super deep dish pizza, maybe do a porteller's dog, put ketchup on that thing, so it tastes good in the entirety of it all. But keto, in that... Boom, Alnadi's! Gipsons

Givesons They bring out desserts this big and with a knife stuck in the top of it it's unbelievable Chicago, here I come Treat yourself, Dana

Treat yourself, Dana Even if it's keto Yeah, you need another F at Friday back in And I think your body will appreciate it too They'll be like Oh, this is what it was like

They'll fight even harder for you on the other side of keto. So big weekend this weekend Can you tell me a little bit more information on the White House because that's going to be on Paramount Plus That might be on CBS

You know what I mean? Think about that. Fight card from the White House live and free on CBS, the network. Come on. Hold on now. That could be like biggest numbers of all time, which I assume is what you're dreaming of here. All right, well, congratulations on the great success.

Enjoy the U down there. I think their football team. They paid Carson Beck like $6 million or something. Allegedly. They're going to be good down there. It's going to be a rowdy fall. I'm coming back here for the Notre Dame, for the Notre Dame Miami game.

so I'll be there I'll be there for that I'm gonna be I'm becoming a Miami fan now I'm a hurricane let's not be given too much money they got enough

you should look at maybe the West Virginia Mountaineers you want to start investing in a college football team we need you up there in West Virginia

we appreciate you congrats on today enjoy all the cigars and dessert brother appreciate you guys thank you 7.7 billion

for seven nice day congrats dude that thing's going straight up and to the right ladies gentlemen Danaway

yeah about 9% today yeah have been should have bought that last week those are clean sure yeah that's those shirts that just have the like the white writing small up here i like those especially the deals that they just got done oh that tkha group really doing it right now they got a lot of stuff and there's dana on his ig story i've a feeling today's gonna be a great day now that was that was posted i'm not going to

judge you do whatever you got to do 7.7 billion that was posted after the breaking news he should have posted on his IG story should have been cigar first then then the breaking news it was IG story 7.7 billion 7.7 billion then to him i have a feeling today is going to be great it's like yeah brother we just saw already it i mean it could be after he saw his daughter's dorm room and it was like wow what she got a an excellent dorm room die in south florida congrats to them dude that's huge i like any time these companies are getting involved in sports it's good news sports are great What will it become? No more pay-per-views.

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Football! He's fantastic, and we're lucky we get a chance to chat about it. The toxic table is here at Boston Connor and that, Ty Schmidt. Great dog on your chest. Thank you very much. I figured I were a dog just because these Patriots are just looking like a bunch of junkyard dogs. Oh, I thought you're talking about the Cleveland Browns and dog pound because of what they got going on. I'm not, look, I know everyone's talking about Shadir, and it's great, but little do everybody know the Browns have a five,

quarterback back there that was drafted before Shador, and his name's Dylan Gabriel. When that kid gets a chance, he's going to spin that pillow like he's 5'10. We saw him. We saw him behind his own line at the Rose Bowl. He's 5'7. Solid, stern. You can play? Bill. Yeah, but that grass

remember pushing you down a little bit. So it's probably they ain't going to have Rose Bowl grass. He didn't. Everywhere around. Yeah, I think I think, Deshawn Watson sits on his sideline there. I thought that was maybe AI created.

Like the Grock Imagine thing. Him wearing his own logo on his head, I thought was the most self-aware thing I've seen in a long time on that particular sideline. I appreciate it. The preseason is the greatest. You can see the little things. Looking at the Packers do a great job.

Ty pumped up about you. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone. Tone, what should we be talking about our preseason that we haven't chatted about enough? If a breaking news. Kind of breaking news, the first AP pool for college football

just came out in Texas as your number one team in the country. Well, preseason AP top 25. Now, Tone is AP voted for the NFL, not for college. Texas, number one in the country. I think they also have the best odds to win a national championship. Penn State number two. Congrats James Franklin. True Ailer and the boys.

Ohio State always going to be high because the team is obviously phenomenal. Clemson now is the interesting team that nobody has talked about or thought about all offseason except for Clemson fans. Now, I know the ACC has talked about in the way that the ACC's talked about it. We love the ACC, love everything about it, especially down there with Bill Belichick now. Come on, now. He's doing his thing. But the thought that Dabo is going to be back in the national conversation is great for college football. I'm happy about that. Greg McElroy actually has Clemson is their number one team in the country in his eyes on his always college football podcast. He has Clemson as the number one overall team in the country. Tone, what are we seeing from the AP top 25? What are we seeing from McElroy's top 25? What are the expectations here?

So with the AP and kind of macaroys, the big thing to me coming into this season is there's so many question marks for a lot of these top teams. And Greg probably is Clemson at number one because there's not question mark. K. Columbine had 43 total touchdowns, I think, last year to six interceptions. They're returning all five offensive alignment, all three of their top wide receivers. They return three, or sorry, two defensive linemen are going to be drafted in the top 10 of next year's draft and a corner is going to be drafted in the first round. So, like, there's not questions about Clemson, I don't think. And then... And that boy can coach.

And that boy can coach. And they do the NIL. Yeah. They start doing it in NRI? They started doing the test report. Penn State, there's not a lot of questions. Like, yes, Penn State has disappointed us a lot over the last few years, but that we know who their quarterback is.

We know who their coach is. We know they're running backs. We know the defense is going to be really good. Ohio State loses a ton. Like, they lose their quarterback. They lose their entire defensive line. There's question marks there. Georgia's got a new quarterback coming in.

And Notre Dame's got a new quarterback coming. Oregon, Alabama, Miami. All have new quarterbacks coming in. Like, there's a lot of questions in this top 10. So I think when you look at the pool, or like this preseason pool, Texas, not as many question marks, Penn State, not as many question marks, not as many question marks.

And I think that's why they're the three of the top 14th. And we'd also like to break some news at this exact time. Coming out on Wednesday, an annual tradition about to take place. They need to know gambler's guide for college ball. $9.99 this year. Tony, you put a lot of great work, and congratulations. Thank you. This is the second annual.

Two time. We did crack in. We were able to crack in there. Now we did have to buy a couple at the end, but we still got it past the list. Need to know gamblers got it for college ball. DeBone wanted to work on the cover. Tony, you want to work on the inside. What are we going to find in this thing on Wednesday?

So I did a preview for all 68 Power 4 conference team. So that would be every single team in the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, and SEC. So you'll get a full page preview. on each of those teams who's coming back, who their coaches, where their weak spots are, stuff and breaking down the schedule stuff like that. And then, you know, at the end I give out about 32

best bets as far as totals for over, under for the season only. There will be a bracket on who I think will make the college football playoffs. So you could also bet off of that. Heisman winner, stuff like that. So yeah, probably about, it'll be about 75, 80 pages of college football

breakdown. Why isn't South Carolina on McRoy's And maybe it's because I just watched the SEC show, but I love Beamer, and I thought everyone was talking about Lenora Sellers being a Heisman, and then the one team that's not on McRoy's and I think South Carolina is 13

on the AP or 12, and South Carolina is not even in his top 25? Is that kind of one of those teams that people are either, hey, Heisman a national championship or bust? I think it's because a lot of people think Lenora Sellers is going to have to be Superman and carry the team a lot, because there's not a

ton of other pieces on offense. so it's like if Lenore sellers has a Cam Newton run yeah they can do it but if he does not if he does not live up to the potential then they may they may follow here the Heisman trophy odds Arch Manning plus six hunds Kade Klubnick number two

overall odds alongside Nussmeyer Jeremiah Smith Ohio State new quarterback he's always open you know that Drew Ailer obviously I like the way their season end now granted everybody wants to win a national championship in making a massive mistake and having to sleep on that all offseason I think could be good for his development or it'll expose him as a guy that

was never supposed to be. It's one way or the other up there. James Franklin, too, in that conversation. The Norris Sellers, Ty Simpson, Carson Beck, plus 2,000. DJ Lagway, plus 2,200 down there. Hammer it. Why is that? Did you see the cover of the, uh, the need to know gamblers guy? I don't know if you saw that. Did you see, did you see the graphic down there? Great job. Yeah, it is a great job. Just a little bit in front. Two dogs. Just a little bit in front of any other you know what top four yeah absolutely he's got thighs for arms lagway yeah uh florida is a major part of that cc show and a lot of it's lagway and billy napier and lagway is one big son of a bitch teams that aren't on there are probably pretty bummed out like for instance

west virginia i assume would be just just being the top 25 because of richrod's aura it is all the way back now this was ripped off of somebody that was ripped off of somebody that was ripped off of somebody. But what was happening here is Rich Rod was ripping the shit out of somebody. And that particular somebody was the guy wearing the stripes. I think. This has not been confirmed, but I've seen this particular action before. And he'll really give the tell at the end here because the guy in the stripes fucks up again. And then he has to raise his hands that we're going in. We're going, going in. Okay. So what happened here, just a little explanation. Pause. Okay, that's stripes right there. Okay, that's an equipment manager. That person wears the

stripes, everything like that. He used to spot the ball for the drills. Rich Rodriguez's old mantra. It used to be spot the ball. We had it on shirts. I think the West Virginia University, people used to promote it. Like, West Virginia football, spot the ball. The statement was spot the ball

and get the fuck out of the way. That is the entire, that is what the actual mantra was. And it was to refs, okay? Then we're going to tell these refs to spot the ball and get the fuck out of the way because we're running... We're running fast and we're beating people up.

So the equipment manager has to be the ref. Need you to spot the ball. You got a script, okay? I think what happened here, now continue to play it a little bit, and this guy just creeped in. He's in charge, okay, of making sure equipment manager did good.

So they are both definitely, definitely getting it right now because he said, I'm sick and tired of having a coach everybody on the field. He's talking to him, but he's also burying stripes over there. He's burying them, and just right in front of him. Seen this before,

it is a fantastic, fantastic wizardry of words. is what Rich Rod's able to do. And the fact that he still is this fired up about a ball being spotted is a magical thing. A great idea on your part for the book is I got a quote from the head coach

on every single team on kind of what they're kind of looking for this year. Rich Rod's quote from the book, I don't know what the last couple of years' stats were. Our goal is to be the fastest playing team in the country as far as ball getting snapped goes. Boom. Spot the ball.

Yeah, and that stripes right there, that equipment manager is a vital piece of the entire operation. Defense aside, too. Oh, yeah. Like, hey, you got to get that ball spot it. We got D1 athletes, okay? We're paying these dogs here to be here.

You, equipment manager, maybe never played in your life, okay? You got to get in there and get the hell out of the way. While these dudes are exhausted, puking, running at each other, spot the ball, get the fuck out of the way. And I think he's going to learn. You know, this ain't Neil Brown's operation. Okay, he might have been a little bit of a carryover. But the West Virginia Monnieres, maybe this year.

I mean, with what I'm seeing. Maybe this year, I'm thinking two. years whenever we get the full culture in there. Greg McElroy ain't going to help himself will put us up our top. Could be IU. Strictly from Rich Rod's aura. I mean, it is a damn shame, though, because... Nah, we didn't have 13 million? Didn't I you have 13, 14 million or something? Yeah, I will tell you, I know personally that we did not have that amount of money. Yeah, I mean... I almost know exactly how much money. Go ahead. If he had Gigi last year, there's a chance, you know, West Virginia wins the national championship of what we're seeing

out of him this year. Listen, Garrett Green is running a wild brother at wide receiver for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Whoa. Yeah. And Garrett Green was a lightning rod for us. Obviously, we didn't win as many games as everybody thought we should. So Garrett Green's going to take the brunt of that at West Virginia. I don't think it was Garrett Green's fault ever.

He was on a show. He's a dog. He's playing a new slot white wide receiver guy. And he's doing it. New Edelmo? Yeah, kind of. That'd be. Look out.

And you see him finding holes too, looking for the quarterback. It's like there is an advantage to being quarterback and then rolling into wide receiver. Now he's not the tallest. I don't think anybody's ever going to call. call him that, but he's a dog. He did a lot of great things for West Virginia, and people are saying, yeah, if Rich Rod had Garrett Green a quarterback, come on. I mean, there's a chance we go. People are also saying, Nico Matarot. Yeah, sure. Could throw the ball. Spaghetti. If we would have had Spaghetti and Garrett Green at Slot, you know, and maybe running back there.

You know, maybe we were able to do our thing, but Garrett Green was such a good leader. You know, he had all the boys over at the house. Remember. Sure. That's the guy. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion. Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies a gentleman, AJ Hawker, like they were still growing the hair, you look amazing. How do we feel about West Virginia not being in the top 10 of either of these? And how do you feel about Ohio State being top three when we don't even really know how it's going to go? We just assume they're going to be great. That has to be a great compliment to the people of Ohio. Yeah, I guess I'm sure people are upset that they're not number one, but you know, like I think we've talked about preseason polls in the past.

Like, I don't know. I don't understand them. I get we talk about it. I understand why they're here. But it doesn't matter. Who cares? Whatever you are, use this motivation to try to get to the top. Like, if your Texas say, great, we deserve to be here. If you're Clemson, your Ohio State, say, hey, we should be number one. Let's go out there and prove it. Yeah, the thought of Clemson being back in the combo was kind of, like, startling over the last couple weeks.

As we're doing research, get back into the season, you know, like, wow, people high on Clemson. Completely forgot people were high on Clemson. Like, that was a little bit of a take. Then as I start reading it, and then you start putting it. the stats together. It's like, and dat boy's getting back. I like the dabbo's getting back into the national conversation. And a lot

of it with all due respect to the teams in the ACC is there's not a lot of other teams. Yeah, and that's why Clemson last year was just a nothing because they lost to Georgia week 1, 31, nothing. And then Miami was the ACC team. And then just the last two weeks it turned into Clemson. Now that the AP is out, now

you're saying that week one brought it up. Three top 10 games in week one. You have Texas, Ohio State, L.O. LSU and Clemson, and then Miami and Notre Dame is on Sunday. So that'll be your three top 10 games, week one. College football is so close. Just a couple

weeks, and we'll be over there in Columbus, Ohio. Yeah. Cannot wait to get over there, get back in the swing of things. We'll be Lee Corso's last head group. That's right. I think that's going to be a pretty emotional show. I would assume so. I assume that's going to be a lot of different, you know, call-ins or show-ups,

messages. Cameo. Yeah, there it is. That's the thing. and uh huh just turned 90 happy birthday yeah that was incredible i get an email hey coach corso's turning uh 90 if you guys want to say anything and i'm literally just as i'm i'm walking on the beach it sounds so uh i live our life now though you should see me walking that beach i fucking love it yeah vacations are for me it is great i mean i'm on cloud a thousand up there walking that thing and i get an email hey coach corso's turn 90

fainbo and say anything i do from everything in this ocean brother because the amount of I thought, we know nothing about the Bermuda Triangle was right out from where we were, from where we were. Don't go. The Bermuda Triangle is right out there. People are like, hey, you look right out there? That's where the Bermuda Triangle is. So I look at the Bermuda Triangle. It's like over a million square miles

or something like that. And then I ask Grock, I said, GROC, what? Tell me about Brita Triangle. It's going on. Grock basically says, it's all bullshit. Don't worry about it. No, no. That's what GROC told me. And I'm looking out there, I'm not. I don't look like bullshit to me. It looks pretty real out there

Everything I'm seeing It's crazy when you look at the ocean Like how small Yeah Oh yeah If the earth's so round Why can't you see it been there? What the ocean?

Yeah I don't know if I have good enough I don't know Do you have good enough of us? Maybe The ocean's vast is what I'm saying It's so big I know

That's why it would be hard Goes as far as the I can see That's what they say They say the you know the earth after what One mile, one and a half miles Joining us now ladies This gentleman, Flat Earther and ESPN Pundit, man who just signed a new deal this offseason, we can't wait to watch them on our TVs every single moment, and we'll help contribute to that

by adding them on our show. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Roloski. World's round, Dan. World's round. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot more stuff. Like, I don't know, my algorithm. Yeah. Of, like, people who truly believe the Earth isn't round.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it's not just your algorithm. I think we give too much credit to algorithms as a whole. We think algorithms are snowflakes and all individual for everybody. We're all seeing the same videos. Yeah, it's a problem. Right? We're all seeing the same stuff.

Some of them are bad. They're just picking and choosing what we all see, I think. Which is an interesting, that's an interesting place to be. I can think about that. Other countries do that too. Yeah, dude, because we'll all come in here and be like, wow, a lot of murders on Texas weekend. Yeah, yeah.

It's like, okay, so I didn't ask for it. I know. Does it make you guys think Like it It makes me for a second Be like Nice What

You want to go kill somebody I've done that too That exact same thing What does it make you want to think Dave Just makes me think like Maybe Am I not smart

Simulation Maybe Okay Dan Well God bless you And obviously There's a reason for everything We understand that But our algorithms

Need to lock it up I would say Dan, how much you're doing college ball these days? I know your big NFL guys commentating right, aren't you? Oh, yeah. I'm taking NFL games. You still do any college stuff? Because the first AP poll comes out.

And obviously, Texas is the number one. Clemson rounds out the top four with two big 10 teams sandwich in there. Georgia, people forget about the dogs down there. They still do bloody Tuesdays or whatever it is with Kirby Smart. And I believe Gunner could be a dog. I think we all believe in them. Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame are going to be in the top 10 conversation every year. I think that's just how this is going to go for the Intel,

Markis Freeman's no longer there. Oregon as well, same conversation. Alabama has more five stars next year than anybody else in the country except for Oregon, right? I believe it's Oregon, yeah, yeah. I think it's Oregon and Alabama had the most five stars. So it feels like the Kalin-de-Bore era with Grub as the offensive coordinator. And I remember, didn't have

them last year. Could just continue Alabama's success, even though nobody's really expecting shit from the Crimson Tide down there. What are your thoughts, Dan, on how we kind of currently sit? And no West Virginia in top 25 of either the AP or Greg Mac kind of confusing yeah maybe they need bigger donors um i yeah still all over college football

i'm still part of it weekly for us um that first weekend is going to be amazing i think about it like to your point phlemson um i think some of the teams that i find like super interesting or is ls u one have we heard anything about maybe you guys know more like i saw all over the internet last week of nussmeyer and he's injured and i thought i saw some reports I was like, God, I hope that's not true. Is he healthy? Is he not? I think Illinois is a team that, like, can throw everything.

We don't need an answer. Okay, you didn't want an actual answer. That's on us. That was rhetorical question. We misread it. You're in a call. What are we answering questions? What the hell?

Well, I don't know. What's the, what is the? What do you want to know or not? It sounded like you didn't want to know. So Twitter was burning. Everyone was reporting that it was like a torn ACL, blah, blah, blah, and the actual reporters came out. Jacob Hester, I believe he was out of practice or whatever former L.

you great said no he's fine everything's fine i believe he just bumped a knee with a defensive lineman might be like a knee bruise type situation i believe i saw a report that he has a sleeve on it but he's back at practice so i think okay i think major a major injury avoided in that situation okay okay so i think they're interesting because i i guess not nussmeyer for me is the best quarterback in america um you know the sellers is crazy talented and he can play himself into that conversation. Club Nick, really good year. Can he do it again? I think they're more talented on the outside of Clemson than they've been in a couple years. But LSU, just, that game is going to be awesome. I think Illinois is a team that, like, could just throw it all

for a loop, just get the style of football that they play defensively. They're going to be outstanding. That's kind of become a calling part of them, but just the old school style of football that they play. Penn State, that's the best Penn State team. James, Franklin's ever had. Aller's another guy that I think there's a camp that sits there and I'm in this camp that goes, man, if he gets it together and just continues his development, Penn State will be in the playoff and he could become the number one pick of the NFL draft. And then there's a camp of Aller will never put it together. He's always just the big tall athletic dude that, you know, maybe doesn't become the complete quarterback. So I'm all about College of Archmanning. How good is he?

So that first weekend is going to be awesome. I've heard some people that I have a lot of respect for say that they think Arch Manning probably sixth or seventh best quarterback in the SEC. We'll see. We'll see how that goes. I don't think that's the case. There's the reason he's number one for Hizman-Lons, I think. And I think we all didn't remember he got concussed last year.

He stood right back up, didn't let him know about it. Might have a celebrity last name, but he feels he's got blue-collar work ethic out there. He's an all-broad player. Yeah, he is all-brought every time. all time, especially whenever you have that name, people are going to buzz. Can't wait for college football to get back. Should be a fantastic start. Now, let's talk NFL ball.

Feels like you did a lot of research and did a lot of judging. You know, we had top tens for everything. Top 10 for mechanics. Top 10 for ball placement. Top 10 for arm strength. Top 10 for great legs. Top 10 for all this stuff. You had top tens across the board for ESPN.com.

Massive respect for the amount of work you put in. Also, appreciate you feeling as if you could be the authority on this entirety thing. Darius Butler, has a question for you. Yeah, Dan, first of all, beard looks great. This is one of my favorite lists I look forward to going into the season.

I want to know, were there any surprises going into this? And Jared Gough, I feel like used to be one of your guys. Why does it seem like you hate him now? You get a new shaft yet? Driver. What are you?

Hold on. Can you put some context of that? In surgery? Yeah, come on. College teammates. You con. Cheeks, guys. What's going on?

What happened to your chef? Okay. I posted a picture The shaft The driver's shaft was a little bit Told him hey, you know It is an extra chef one He told me to get a steel

I'm like by to use a steel I just want to let you know I don't know what we were talking about there I had no idea I did A lot of shaft talk huh Lot of shaft Golf is great

Should you just answer the question Golf is great Not 10 shaft So in your top 10 or so here's the here's the here's kind of like the conversation around the top 10 list so first of all Jared golf champion got it yeah is that what you say no no great season no second year i love jerry so second year that they've asked me to do this um and it's a bunch of different categories that you guys have i'm being serious here that you guys have talked about so you know like there a lot of times the top four are

kind of like any mix of Josh, Lamar, Joe, and Patrick. And then, you know, there's, I'm of the group that still think that there's 10 or 12, like other just really, really good quarterbacks in the league right now. And so I put a list of 10 and then it's a conversation of like, hey, you don't have Justin Herbert in there. I'm like, man, Herbert should be in there. And then so it's like, okay, well, who could I take out? And then, man, you don't have Jared golf in that one. Well, who can I take out?

or, you know, there's no DAC in there. So it's like there are moments when I try to give love to a guy that I think is probably worthy of being in that top 10, but it's like I can't take somebody else out. And so there is a little bit of like puzzle piece fitting because, you know, trying to just be respectful of so many different guys. And it's like, both. So we're playing politics.

Jeez. Yeah. So we put Jared Gough in one of the top tens. Of course. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, Detroit noticed then. thing wasn't out for more than maybe, I don't know, 30 seconds on each one, five, maybe three and a half minutes in Detroit was like, oh, here we go again. Dan Arleski.

Dan, I was pissed off. One of the best offenses in the league last year, top five quarterback in the league last year. I mean, decision making with the football, ball placement. There's so many things that Jared Gough does great. And you didn't even have him on there. Did Aaron lose his mechanics? His arm got chopped off, actually. He's got a lot. He's got to throw with his Oh, he started working with Artie Smith. Yeah, he plays with Steelers and Artie so he can't be on a list. Yeah, so his mechanics might be bad. Yeah, I understand.

Because they say, like, his form actually is like the teach tape. The mechanics. Right, you know, sorry, though. Sorry, I don't know. We got a lot of games. You know what you got a lot of games. We got a lot of good players. Yeah, it's making a top ten list with so many of the quarterbacks.

It's tough, man. It's tough. I didn't even realize it today until, like, the end of first take, they were like, you don't even have my home. in top 10 mechanics and I was like Fudge I'm not going to talk my way out of that one Fudge!

Listen, every once in a while you've got a slide a six and a seven out to get some 12 and 13 and some other one in there because I'm going to see these people. I'm going to see the mechanics. I'll tell you what Aaron did forget how to throw. So I do respect that.

What do they call it? The greatest ball. Yeah, but he's got some extra weight now. Yeah, you're right. Artie Smith. Is that what it is? Maybe. Oh, you're talking about being married? I don't know.

AJ, you tell me, do you think Dan Orlovsky doesn't think he can throw anymore because he's married? I don't know, Dan. Is that what you're hinting at? Dan? You think it's the wedding ring on the left hand? His mechanics? What happened to Dan? Not going to be not focused on ball or what? Not going to be able to do it? His mechanic?

Just not? I don't have a good explanation for not having him on there. I don't. I don't. I don't have a good explanation for that one. I love it. We love you. I'm not blaming on the marriage though.

Hey, I want to let you know. I'm not blaming it on the marriage. Okay, sounds good. We're happy we got that cleared. We appreciate you doing all the work and just putting yourself out there to do this. I mean, because all we do is literally what we just did. Everybody does that as soon as they look at your list.

And you know that. Your shins are just in every single different room. Bang to bang to banga. What does Dan know? Oh, he put us at one at this one. Can't even get to that because you put him at three at this one. They didn't have no shit. And then Pittsburgh,

Yeah. Detroit, hate you. I mean, there's some pretty active shit-talking cities. Let alone what you said about Jalen last time. We're not going to get into it. We're not going to get into it. But we appreciate you swinging in the back. What I say about Chairman?

You're on a beach. They already forgot. Yeah, yeah, it was a good day. It was a good day. It was a good day. We had a great day. Speaking of a great day, let's talk about a great night, especially in Cleveland.

Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Dan, I'm actually around a lot of Cleveland Brown fans, and leading up to their first, you know, the preseason game on Friday. much of the fans told me, hey, this is our soup bowl tonight. Shador is going to get a lot of time. Like, we want to see what he is able to do. I know you guys have gone over and over this.

He played very well. I was very impressed, actually, by his presence, how he had a command of the huddle, his confidence on the field. But what do you make of this? And, like, how different is a defense in, say, the first or second preseason game, say, to the first or second regular season game? What kind of different looks will they give you as a quarterback? Great question.

Yeah. So, like, you know, going into these games, you guys, obviously experienced it and then hear a lot of people talk about you want to how he handles it how he operates you know the the pre-snap communication post-snap execution does he look like he's

you know seeing everything clearly and like that is said because it matters and that was one of the things that stood out was just how comfortable he looked in and out of the huddle there's multiple times where you know he's sticking his hand up at the line of scrimmage talking to his receivers

like hey you're good don't worry about any blitzes, our protections are fine. So, you know, when I watch that, it tells me, like, he's, he's understanding what he's looking at. That matters, a big deal. I think the thing that, like, one of the things that I took away was he was pretty aggressive with the football.

That tells me, like, confidence, you know, that, again, he's seeing how rotation happens. Now, he saw a lot of, you know, backside safety drop-down men coverage. So that you're not going to see, like, you'll see that in the league. obviously a ton. He didn't see a ton of pressures.

He didn't see a ton of blitzes. You know, some of the stuff that some other quarterback saw, like Seattle was throwing Star Wars stuff at Gino Smith. So, you know, he didn't see that. But I do think that you walk away going, you walk away going, man, the operation was clean. He looked comfortable.

You saw athleticism. The decision making was spot on. He had two or three drops, even in the midst of the stat line. So, you know, this plays awesome. me because it shows reaction he remains a pastor he doesn't bail he stays in that really good pocket of throwing presence and then the throw the ball placement face mask or higher belt buckle or lower down in the red zone and this one's belt buckle lower to protect that guy so here's my thing all reports in training camp have been overwhelmingly positive with chador like

hey another good day for chador then he gets in the game he plays really well at some point the Browns are going to have to sit there and go we got to get them more reps against better competition with more of our higher end talent I've been in the camp to start one of the rookies and it's really hard to not walk in there this week and be like let's get them reps versus the ones

with the ones and see what it looks like it's time it is time put your watch up Dan if you believe can't put it up yes somebody sent him a text somebody sent him a text somebody sent him a text to pop up right there

Those rings aren't even close to being closed. Yeah, you got to maybe do some more steps. They're driving around everywhere. It may be healthy. Dan, I like everything you're saying there. And we had an old bra team. I don't know if you saw that. Because it's bruh.

Great work out there. But also, bruh, it's pretty easy. It's better than playing ass. I can't say that enough. These guys have played good. And people just want to mock and ridicule them for its play. It's like, what are they supposed to do? Play like shit and then what?

You know? So I think we should celebrate it. But we do got to keep it in perspective that, brough, Miles Garrett was sitting on his sideline. Miles Garrett and Shador actually had a conversation after Shador's time. Great interaction. Miles and he seemed to get along well, which is good play by Shadur to win over Miles. And also, Miles, probably the same way.

And Shador asked Miles if he thought his little spin shit could work on him that he was doing against the guys that were out there. And Miles was like, come on, man, come on, come on, come on. Like basically, like, relax. And then I think they both said that was some shitty D.N. play out there. It was like, yeah. It's preseason football. But once again, not Shador's fault.

This is the only opportunity he's getting to play out there. Interesting situation for the Cleveland Bounce. Maybe they're good. Now, let's stay in the state of Ohio, shall we? Let's go. Yeah, yeah. Lash our wagon. By the way, it's kind of like a punch.

Yeah, you know, you can do like a big uppercut. Oh, wow. Like soccer. Yeah, it is like a soccer thing. Now, I wear watch on left hand because I am ready. Yeah, same. But he puts right hand up, I think his, if you looked at the, we can't do left hand out.

Yeah, right. Because, you put watch on right here, don't you? No, I'm ready. But I don't follow their rules. Okay. I like that. Good for you. There's no rules.

There's no rules on watches. Yeah, I want to look. You know what's more natural? Fucking right there. That is what I'm. And also now, bang. Yeah. And also now really just.

What time? Yeah, I don't even know if this one has the right time on it. You're going to have to certainly look at that, figure that out. Because I haven't told I can't reset it. That sounds like a waste of money. No, it's just. It's a fucking math equation. I got to do the thing, the thing, that the...

It's a little time-sum you could do it. Oh, maybe I put on my right here. I thought they said it once, then you're not allowed to touch it. Well, I just don't TikTok, it keeps going. But the thing about it is whenever there's like, you know, it falls back an hour or it goes forward an hour, this fucker doesn't know. We need to get rid of that. It's got no heads up.

I thought we were getting. Yeah, we do. Yeah, which one do we get, you want to get rid of it, Dan? Yeah. What's daylight savings time thing? Yeah. Get rid of the, get rid of the one that we do in the fall. just stay where we're at right now

you don't want to fall back yeah we like springing forward I agree I think you spring forward and then it's over which is where we would be right now I just want to help farmers farmers aren't going to be happy about that no big deal though I don't think that actually right

haven't the farmers come out oh you guys don't care about the farmers I thought there's been some farmers that have come out and said like I don't think they they operate on their own time I don't think it matters get it done no matter of because they'll take tractors

another ride, another ride, another ride. No matter what time it is on Dan Orlovsky's Apple Watch. That's right, exactly. You know, they will certainly go and do that. They always remember one. What's that? Good to A.J. Hogglight. Oh, the headlamp.

The slunking? Like the guys who are fishing outside my house had? Yep. 11.30. I thought they had spotlights. Spallet in my house. Yeah, taped to their head. Yeah, they weren't even, they had those things up there.

How you doing? You're waking the babe. Yeah. You're a spotlight in my house right now. It looks like I'm getting swatted. You know, that's what it feels like. So I just try to catch some bass. Yeah, I get it.

I've seen too many movies with the flashlights coming in through windows to know what's going on. Just get back to quarterback conversation with Dan Rolowski, which is the specialty. The guy is the expert. The guy is the expert. Top 10 and everything. Yeah, it's the best. If you want to know what a quarterback, he's got him in the top 10. Top third of the league.

Now, Jared Gough can't crack in. Jesus. Aaron Rogers can't crack in. Anthony Richardson, Danny Dimes, can't crack in, which I don't love. But there's some other quarterbacks that aren't on there as well. Go ahead, Ty. Dan, let's stick in the same draft class as Shadour. Why do you think that there has been next to no fanfare for Cam Ward still?

That was kind of the talk of the draft. Like, hey, no one's talking about this guy. He's unbelievable. And I guess I really haven't seen much of him from neither training camp or from his game this week. What are you hearing and what are you seeing from Cam Ward thus far? Yeah, I don't know why. I mean, I think there is a little bit of, you know, there was so much attention. on Chador in the draft process and it was kind of like the foregone conclusion of

him going one. I would tell you just watching the game the other night, I think that he settled in. Early on, you could just see sped up, you know, but he settled in in that second quarter and had some really good connections to Calvin Ridley. This is a great throw on the crossing route. I think the things that I liked watching week one preseason wise seem like he had good eyes. You know, he confirms that shallow cross is getting carried by that or with that corner versus man coverage. That's a beautiful crossing throw. There's a ball over the middle of the field. This one that comes twitchy, drop-down coverage. He sees the vacancy in the zone. Ball comes out now. Those were some of his traits coming out of college that you liked.

I think that the thing that I did see that's probably happened like three or four times in the game that you walk away with tape is we got to get him to like play a little slower and have a little bit more structure within his feet. I think that he's one of those quarterbacks that, you know, has the ability to make a lot of different throws when his feet aren't set. His body could be in unique positions because the arm is so talented, but he relied on that too much. You know, there's a ball he almost throws for an interception that almost gets picked off and it's like his mechanics, his feet are all over the place and he's parallel to the line of scrimmage. So that's why these snaps are meaningful for these guys. So I think

that you walk away encouraged by some of the things that he did post snap while also sitting there and just harping on hey let's let's mechanically get more consistent we don't have to fall back on throws we don't even like this out route it's completed but it's not a perfect throw and if you look at his the throw his feet are like slipping all over the place so I just think like the more reps he'll get to be more comfortable uh it's going to be better like we'll get his feet here like he's falling away from that. You can see his upper body. He could be, like, moving away out.

I want that ball to be just pulling that guy to the sideline. I think he's a baller. Like, that's right. I think he is a gamer. I think he's a baller. I think he's a dog. But I think with that, there comes a lot of things. Like, attention and detail on the footwork for a lot of time for Cam probably hasn't been a must for him. Let's do other things. And also, I see that elbow moving a lot.

It feels like that is a little bit of, I assume all this will develop as he continues in a league. are most quarterbacks from year one to year four i know the josh allen story is a very real one cam's only going to get better right all the things because his moxie he walks into the university of miami everybody there says this is the guy he walks into nashville down there music city and you're ridley like he walks in the room and it's just like we got a guy yeah you know everything else he can work on right that's how we feel oh totally yeah i mean that the the character is off the charts. The person and the mindset is off the charts. And there's also a ton of physical talent there. So, you know, you need to remember this guy, you know, let's, I don't know exactly

what, you know, the offensive style that he played in at Carnet Ward, but incarnate word, but at Washington State, it was Chuck and Duck, man. So, like, those offenses aren't necessarily teaching a ton about footwork and whatnot. And so then he goes to Miami and it's a little bit of the same stuff. And so go back to when Caleb was coming out of school. two years ago, there's a little bit of that there, you know, where it's like there, he probably hasn't had to be hyper-focused on footwork and, you know, hitches and the balance of it all. And so that, that's going to come because everyone raves about this young man's footwork. Like, even that ball, that ball should be out a hitch and a half to two inches sooner.

You know, Calvin's running across or over the middle of the field. The protection's flawless. So get it, but that'll problem. You just, that's all going to come with reps. Yeah, and people are going to hear what we're saying in saying his, you know, his footwork and this is going to have to get better. And they're thinking to themselves, well, he's added a lot of success already. He's number one overall pick. It's like every position, once you get to the NFL, it's all about the details. It's all about the tiny little thing. Like, for me, punning, it was in my drop, like learning how to drop.

I just stand at my bed at night and just drop this thing like a thousand times so that it would drop flat. It's like all the little tiny things they can continue to improve on. And everything said about Cam Ward is that he will. and I don't love that for the AFC South. Okay, I want to let that be We know Houston's got what they got. Yep, sir.

Jacksonville's got a kicker that's hitting 70-yard field Go snap, hold kick, live. Absurd. Brah, that's pretty easy. Brow, that is so far. That is so far. Legit. Everybody makes sense to me.

So far. That is unbelievable that. Like, I saw that, and I'm like, my tweet was, this is legendary, just strictly because it is. Like, everybody dreams of an opportunity to get a 70-yard, like, a kick. but to make it like I had a 66 yarder I think in preseason pulled it left so bum never going to get that shot again but I'd make that kick I feel very good about my life forever Cam little hits a 70 yard field goal who cares if it's preseason or not I don't like the vibes down here yeah no extra steps too like Tucker 66 against the lions in the game technically so maybe that was the difference he had that extra step little was just two steps in a swing what a kick and he's not a gigantic human yeah I don't know how he does he

I said it. I honestly have, and I think he was perfect on extra points whenever he was at Arkansas. Because normally, if you have a big leg, every once in a while and get a little bit out of control, seems to be, I don't want to say, undersized, but he doesn't look like he is a gigantic Cuban. Anyways, around the AFC South, everybody's really doing it. Here in India, I don't know if you've heard, Dan, we've got a good competition going. Boys are battling. What are your thoughts? I was disappointed that Anthony had that play. What play?

Who's fault was it? Yeah, what should have? This is on the quarterback. Crick and right tackle right there. No, I read, I read from Connor and I read from a lot of people on the internet that this was not on this entire. This, can I speak from outsider who doesn't have the highest football IQ on earth? But been very lucky to be in a lot of rooms where it happened. You know, so I think by osmosis, I've picked it up.

This is something that if you were to play a lot of football, you would know, hey, this is the guy. and then this is potentially 30, 40-yard gain as opposed to dislocated pinky. That's certainly close. He's still on you. Yes. But that thing, he's still taking a hit, probably falling down if I had to guess. Yes. But that is going to the running back and going, right? And that's just something that, like, just naturally

comes whenever that type of shit starts taking place. Am I reading it accurately? Yeah, so let's nerd out a little bit here. So, let's do it. This is, it's second in pen, okay? This is a relatively basic past protection concept. It's only five people blocking. So the running, back has no responsibility the guard the the the left tackle left guard in the center are responsible for the left defensive tackle the left defensive end the mike linebacker so the guy

that is standing on in between the hashes not him boom him they're responsible for him and then the nickel defender okay the nickel go to the yep so there's four guys there right you have the nickel the defensive end the defensive tackle and the mike linebacker the center left guard and left tackle are responsible for three of those four, whatever three. It doesn't matter what of the three. If any three of that four come, they're protected. If four on that side, that's on the quarterback, okay? And that's why when Anthony catches it, if you guys play it, Anthony catches it,

Anthony just stares left because he's thinking the nickel might be a pressure guy because look it over your right shoulder pat, that safety's right there. That's called being capped off. So a lot of times when that nickel is pressed and the safety, Right on the logo is over the top, you're like, okay, that nickel can be a pressure guy. So I can understand Anthony looking at that nickel guy and saying, if he pressures, that could be a problem. The problem starts backside, rewind it. Okay, so now right guard, right tackle.

They're responsible for right defensive end, right defensive tackle, and that backside linebacker. Any two of those three, any two. So if any two come, we're protected. If all three pressure, that's a problem. Now, what happens is you teach your offensive tackle. If that linebacker triggers, he's closer to the quarterback than the defensive end. MDM, most dangerous man, he's probably said. Yeah, which is normally the inside guy.

Yeah, close the easiest path for the QB. Yes, got it. Yes. Yes, most dangerous guy, that's called a squeeze. So like that tackle is doing the right thing And quarterback has to know Then defensive end is unblocked So the simple part of that is yes

That's on the quarterback I do think it's just hard The quarterback has to see both sides here right So the coaching point is really Anthony I don't want you to look left And I don't want you to look right I need you to see down the field And feel the color on either side

Feel that so while I understand and Anthony's telling me, I know my left is a problem. He's also telling me, I don't think my right is. And that's where, like, as a coach, you would have to sit there and go, I got to trust you to be able to handle this. And my, my comparison has been this. Yeah, yeah. And just, and know what your, every snap, there's a problem. Every snap, there is a problem. And you have to know the answer to that problem. Every single snap. And my top has been this, guys, AFC championship game last year, the last play of the game when Josh Allen's running for his life

and ball flutters in the air and whatnot that's a Star Wars problem like that if you get that you're Drew Brees you're like that's all world stuff this one if you're going to start in the NFL and it's second and 10 you got to be able to know what that problem is and what the answer is

okay well hopefully this will be a learning lesson I appreciate that he bounced up okay he wasn't out he's been practicing he had a dislocated pinky he was ugly they fixed it He moves on. Hopefully this is something he can continue to learn from. You've said it twice now, Star Wars stuff, Star Wars stuff. You said Seattle sent Star Wars stuff at Gino Smith.

Was that the sign pregame? Was that the sign? Is that Star Wars stuff? You're saying like, man, this is Star Wars stuff? Go fourth yourself. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, may the fourth not be with anybody here. You know, like that type of stuff?

Is that what you were saying there? Or you're saying this? No, I didn't see the sign. I saw that Gino like, he gave somebody double birds. Yeah, and Pete Carroll actually had his back. Crosby followed suit as well, which I respect and appreciate. Gino gave a lot of good years in Seattle. Bigger bust, Gino Smith or Jamarcus Russell.

That's what the sign said. It was mean. And then Pete Carroll, Gino, Jamarcus, Russell. And then Pete Carroll goes to grab it. Oh, shit. Yeah, Pete Carroll was... That guy's always there. That guy's always there at Seahawks game.

Sign man, sign man. Yeah, that's his thing. And then Pete Carroll was asked about that for game. He said, did you read the sign? Okay, I had nothing else to say, but he said, this is him right here. He was seen at the Seahawks game making an obscene jester, like, and a fan

with a sign. Did you see what the sign said? Yeah, I saw it. Next point. Love that. How about the journalist, though? Obscene gesture. Upseen, the kids watch. Coming out here.

Is that okay? I love her. But that was not the Star Wars stuff you're talking about? What are you talking about Star Wars? You've said it multiple times now? Exotics or what? Exotic, yeah. On me, you guys? You know, when, yes, when exotic, like, I think Mike Martz was the first person to say Star Wars stuff around me maybe, but, you know, Star Wars, outer space, and you're like, you're seeing all these different moving parts.

Yeah, ghosts. You're seeing Ghosts. Out of his world. Let's talk about one of these Star Wars guys that plays football. We've learned more about quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. Go ahead, AP Ton. Yeah, Joe B. He's a bit spacey, and he's also very, very good.

He was in a lot of your top 10 list. he's playing early in this preseason. Bengals are notably slow starters week one, week two. Him and Jamar looked like, I don't know, like they didn't have an off season. Do you like the Bengals and Joe playing early? And do you think it matters because, I mean, Tanner McKee looked like Tom Brady.

Yeah, McKee looks like a trade potential for somebody at some point. Yeah, I like the fact that they're playing. I've actually become a little bit warmer the guys playing in the preseason in the past. I don't know if it's because later games. or, you know, the quality of the conferences seem to be so high, specifically, they've seen. So I like the fact that they're playing. I would probably play them a little bit in the second game as well.

And, like, yes, but also, did you see the defense? I mean, the defense looked just as bad as last year. Some of the running lanes were just, I counted probably like seven or eight snaps that the Bengals had multiple defensive linemen in the wrong gap. So, you know, I do like the fact that they're playing them, but the defense still remains a massive, massive, massive issue in Cincinnati. Do we know if Mike Browns have paid you cash $300 million? You're going to play all the fucking games.

Okay. Preseason, postseason, offseason, you're playing all the games out there. Will the Bengals be able to stop anybody? Who knows? Will they be on primetime television a lot because it's going to be electrifying? Absolutely. Can't wait to watch the Bengals, especially in that environment. That place is a great home field advantage over there in the jungle.

getting an upgrade, I believe, too, right? Didn't they agree to an upgrade to the jungle over there? Beautiful thing, beautiful town. Hopefully a great team in the Bengals. We can't wait to watch them. Shador talks about a lot, but there's another rookie that we think has a lot of marks he use. Well, go ahead, con man. Yeah, Dan, you know, something you never do is go back and kind of take a victory lap for your take. So I just want to say, you know, Jackson Dart was one of your guys and he came out spinning the pill the other day. What did you see out of him? And do you think that Russell is going to get a lot of time? Do you think it's going to to be, you know, first sign of any doubts that Jackson Dart might get put in because of

how well he's playing? Or what should our expectations be for the Giants with their quarterback situation? Yeah, I wouldn't rush for Jackson Dart on the field. I think Russell Wilson's the starter and hopefully has some success. I think the best thing for the team and for Jackson Dart is that Brian Dables, his coach for the foreseeable future. And that happens if they're capable of like winning and being competitive this year. I thought Dart looked really good as Well, I think the things that you liked were, you know, he made some, I guess, different kinds of throws that weren't demanded of him at LSU, some timing routes on the outside to the perimeter, balls across the middle, the field weren't just necessarily crossers. I love that. I thought he was really strong in the pocket.

That's one of his calling cards. I thought out of all the kids in the class this year, I thought he was best in the pocket, just the strength and the climbing of the pocket while remaining a passer. you saw the athleticism. The touchdown pass the little Jordan Humphrey is actually an audible at the line of scrimmage. So again, just verification, recognition, aggression. I think the two things that stood out to me

as far as like what you want to see him grow at. And this is why I wouldn't rush him on the field or part of the reason why. He has a third down where he throws the ball to Dulcich, the backside, tight end, and he misses it. And everyone might sit there and go, oh, an accurate throw.

And I look at it is he's just playing too fast. He's got a corner round at the bottom and it's like third and three I think of his first or second drive and he's ready to throw the corner route and the receiver's like four or five yards down the field versus man coverage. And so it's just the repetition and the growth and the experience of slow yourself down feet wise because your feet tell you when to throw the football more often than not. Again, a shotgun quarterback and RPO centric quarterback that maybe wasn't marked on the timing element of the pass game. So that's going to take time.

And then the second time was when he runs for a one-yard game, not that big long run, but he scrambles for a one-yard gain. It's a play-action pass. He's got the chance to throw the crosser, and the underneath defender kind of tries to bait him, and he decides not to throw it, and I'm like, good decision.

But then throw it to the running back and the flat instead of becoming a runner. And so just, hey, why did you not throw the ball to the back? You know, so I just think, you know, more experience having that, but I would be as encouraged as I was with Shador. I would be equally as encouraged as I would be for Jackson Dart. And Caleb Williams? Didn't play.

I was disappointed that he didn't play. I understand not playing him without the starting offensive line. I would love somebody to ask Ben Johnson, why did the starting offensive line not play? And then subsequently Caleb get reps. I think he needs reps in this offense. So I'm okay with him not playing without the starting offensive line. But why is the offensive line playing then? Well, they paid a bunch of guys.

Don't want to get them hurt early. And also a lot of vets. Yeah, yeah, sure. I mean, again, I would understand that if you tell me. I would understand that. Those three guys internally are vets, but I don't know the answer to the why they didn't play. You're the man.

Enjoy yourself. Thank you for talking to us during your travelers. Thank you for taking it on the shins from the rest of the world and putting out these lists that we can react to. You're welcome, boys. Oh, AJ, you need a haircut, bud. Whoa. Jeez.

Oh, AJ, you can take that, dude? He just pissed on your face. I will about three to six months, probably, Dano. Oh, I appreciate you, though. Oh, he's growing up. I thought you keep it tighter on the sides. No, he's grown in out. I did.

I got to get it's getting a little too far. I got grow it all out before I do anything else. We appreciate you, Dano, for your modeling, your haircut analysis. Dan, if staff are going to be okay? Sorry, Pat. Is staff are going to be all right? Good question. scared um from everything that i'm aware of yes new news since our conversation has started with you

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We know Stafford is like the toughest dude on the planet too. Like that dude will play through anything. We have massive respect for Stafford. I also have massive respect for people getting fully healthy before getting thrown back out there. So I don't want to hit the panic button yet. But this is abnormal, I think, for Matthew Stapp, personally. as a viewer of Matthew Stafford.

Draft Class, 2009. Draft class, still hoarding the down. Tough, tough. I've seen someone get an epidural. They were in a lot of pain. So if Matthew Stafford is in that much pain, yeah, that's a tough thing to do. That's bad.

Giving birth or playing football, I guess. Jeez, Louise. He's okay. A lot of people say giving birth is like playing football. Nope, I'm not saying that. You can say that. I've watched that whole thing. That is crazy.

Very thankful for it all. Devante probably thinks he's cursed. There was something I wanted to say before we got out of here. Oh, fuck, what was it? I forget what it was. Stetson Bennett's raising hell? Yeah.

I do like that Stetson Bennett took a year off. Yep. I can't do it. Comes back to the Rams balling out in the preseason. He's a dog, through and through. Stetson Bennett.

And he does raise some hell down there and out. He does. Justin Rose has been to doubt. Oh. That's it. Justin Rosen spawn yesterday? Thank you, boys. Thank you, boys.

Now, so, as I see Scotty Sheffler around the 14th, 15th hole seemingly get out of it, even though he could have still got it. I thought he might chipped in to tie that thing. Like, anytime Schaeffler's on there, I'm thinking it's a real deal. Watch because he gets the lead in the second hole. It's like, all right, we got another Scotty Schaeffler day. Let's do that. Thought Rose, Fleetwood, everybody was just going to collapse. Thought it was going to happen. So as the day continues to go, and Fleetwood's still in, I'm like, that baby Tommy. Hey, Tom. Hey, Tom. Hey, what to go, Paul? I'm proud of him. Rose battling back through that. And then spawned with that L.

making magic golf was great yesterday and whenever spawn and rose go to a playoff holes in the playoffs obviously it's electrifying they both get a birdie in the playoffs so it goes par rim jobs both of them uh second hole both of them get a birdie both of them make huge putts after being able to get on hole then they make new hole okay put in a new position then uh rose is able to get the win or whatever because j j spawn seemingly did a completely different putting motion after rose made the putt because he was closer than him the other way. Great battle, though.

Full cinema. Shout out to these boys putting on a show on a Sunday. That ended like 705. We're talking about that. That was a long day of golf, and they were talking about how hot it was. And the scoreboard not working because of the heat there, so them not knowing what's going on on the 17th hole,

added to the drama. Yesterday was great golf, AJ. I don't know how much you got to see of it. Them both making birdie, making putts in a playoff hole, that's like dream situation for golf there. And it certainly happened. Well, I think the whole thing was cool Because what, there's 70 that entered this field

And the top 50 move on So seeing like they were updating you at the whole time Like 51, two, three Seeing who was on the line And every single put Like it affected players And whether they were going to make it to the next round or not And how everything works out

So it's a good time I guess to watch golf, I think Kirk was 51 I think I think he made a birdie on 18 And it moved him from like 54 To 51 Like so cool someone else chipped in on 17 earlier in the day to go from 50 to like 46 it was like yeah yeah there's a lot of magic they two scoreboards you know it was like a high low for whenever you're playing poker there's two different hands there was like a high low situation going on uh golf is beautiful uh shout to golf shout to sheffler too i mean he's just a dog still doing it yeah he was four under on sunday or something like that he had the best round on sunday of everybody else he just wasn't able to win it all it's like and he looked svelte yeah the fit he had to white pants with the gray he looked like he looked like he looked like he looked like very lean and mean like dad shape and so i'm getting a little i like that we're he's human

yeah he's much more than he was and we didn't have his caddies caddy i'd go home for fans i mean he's he's acting now i mean he was so good and happy gilmore still yeah so it's one of those he's good in jail too he's not supposed to be there got moxie live had a good finish too oh yeah i did see some of that was on there coming here bryson de shambo be in the show tomorrow and i'm very excited he will be guest hosting our two cannot wait for him lives here in Indianapolis. They were in Chicago this past weekend. I guess there was a bunch of fans from everything we saw. Shout to them. Can't wait

to chat with Bryson tomorrow? Be a friend to have, friend, something nice. It might change your life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. We continue digitally. Feel like I hit all the check-down. Got it. Didn't sell the platforms though. With the golf. Oh, that's okay. Hit the golf. Need to talk about the golf. Really love the golf yesterday.

It was incredible. And like you said, it going until like 7 o'clock and actually being drama-filled and very entertaining. for the last four hours, really. It was incredible. Those scores are the sweet spot, I think, too. Like 16, 17.

The course did its job. Yeah, the course was tough, but the great golfers still played amazing. Like, that was... 25, 30, too much. Too easy. Even. Yeah, 5 under 600.

Too hard. Not cool enough. 16. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's like the proper amount of big time plays being made. Yes, big ponds. Like the puts that were being buried.

Big put. Some big putz. Spawn, man. What a year for Spawn. That dude's life has changed over the last, what, five, six months. They talk about that putter being, like, I guess he was ass at putting. They said he's, like, 100-something in putting, and then something came about whenever he got this L-A-B putter.

It's not working as well for me yet, but maybe I'm just trying to find my stroke. I can't get rest? Can I ask, can we go back to a dance cart? What happened to your shaft? We didn't really get to the bottom of that. Yeah, what's going on? Joe Hayden's second annual golf classic out there in Cleveland, right outside of Cleveland. It's where they do there.

Posted a picture of the shaft, the driver's, shaft, you know, just a picture of me ringing in it, and it was, you know, the picture looked kind of funky, and he, uh, DM me like, hey, bro, you need a stiffer shaft, pause. He didn't say, Paul. He didn't say pause. He did not. He did not. He's just a stiff shaft. I think this is actually a stiff shaft. It just looks weird in the picture, blah, blah, blah, and then I took the picture of the shaft. You're up your shaft. Yeah. Love to chat, GPT. What kind of shaft is it? It tells me, boom, it's actually extra stiff graph. So he's like, oh, you got to stop using the

graphite garbage, but I'm like, damn, I think everybody uses the graph. They do. What's my driver? Do we know what my driver is? You probably also have an extra stick. I want to let you know. You should have an extra step. I'm hitting the ball right now. Oh, yeah.

Me and Gumpy played in a golf tournament. Phil Mainz Classic on Saturday back here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, beautiful plum burrow. I'll tell you what, the course was hard, literally and figuratively. Sure. Well, baked out. Couldn't get a tea into the tea box. That's good.

Had it had rain and forever. They're in the middle of a drop. It's really. You're going bubble with that thing? Was that? Driver off the deck? No, no. That's Bonioric cabinets, by the way.

These particular pison is great with wood. Put this out just to give love to the bonnures. Sure. Because Billy Bonior, also as Billy Bones, showed up in a full costume. Always does. B.C., Boniora cabinets, logo, polo, tucked in,

a fedora, all blue, everything matched. Gorgeous. I mean, legend. Absolutely outrageous looking. But these particular pizons, go wood

these guys go wood so I just want to do love I just want to show a little love because they sponsored one of the holes shout out to everybody that was there shout to Dachronics also build a couple scoreboards for Plumboro High School

or Plum Senior High School which got a new sign up front digs I don't know if you've seen it and I don't know if they ran out spray paint and plum but I'm happy that this thing has not been ruined I want to let you know the main one it's really nice

what's it say whatever the case I didn't expect JJ Watt to bury the fucking do they happen to do grass by you I saw that tweet three hours later I opened my phone back up because there wasn't a lot of service obviously

we're in the middle of the hills out there so when you're at high altitude your phone's working but at that altitude you're looking at the views you're having a good time you're talking to people you haven't seen 15, 20 years

do you want to pull your phone out at that moment and really live so I skipped a couple high altitude moments pull my phone out later I'm like oh no JJ Watt just killing the grass he doesn't even know that Billy Bonaure when he met him out in Arizona

walks right up to him and goes, hey, what's up, JJ? Big fan of TJ. So he didn't even know that that was who that person was. And I want to let the Larmans know. There he is. That's what I.

G. 3.30, he looks tall as that one. 5 under. He's the dancer, right? From the party bus? Yes. Yes, he is the dancer. He is in the back there. It looks like A-Rod a little bit.

It does. In the back there, Gio Ramia, former starting quarterback for a Palm Ceree in high school Mustangs. Also, Joe Hadley, got on the left there, Joe Hadley, all-time leader's Sacketer for a Paul Mustang. There's a lot of time there. That's all Italian, yeah. Those are Italians right. It was Italian Fest. We were in the middle of it. Actually, had a couple of jelly. What are the shots of you, Pison? Guy pulled out Gabagool out of his cooler out of the golf cart. I'm walking. A, Nick's dad, who was very gracious, let us sleep in his

basement on like the good old days on Friday night. It was great to be back in that basement. great to be back there. It was awesome. Gump sat the couch. I had Nick's little brother's old room. It was Arctic Cold Downer. Oh, that's the best. So Italian and everything. Was pull open? Frank was open. Left open for us to arrive. Frank even say you want to jump in?

Go ahead. Like, good old days. Go ahead and do it. It was awesome. Everything shut down, by the way. Everything shut down. COVID, I think, made everybody go to bed. That side of town stinks. I disagree. Mohans, we would have stopped. I must piss my pants. Mo Hans was closed at 1130 midnight. I was very surprised.

He said, well, close the 10, everybody closed the 10. $2.86 is thriving. COVID sent everybody to bed. We drove through that. That's a ton of. It's all new. Brand new sheets, okay? Yeah, I was dying there, brandy McDonald's.

Burger King's dead. Rudy Sub's still doing it. We'd like to let it. Rudy Sub's still bringing it. Still bringing it. Burger King dying is a bad sign. No, McDonald's thriving, though. I think Plum just picked its allegiance.

Sure. And said, we're not doing it. We're on McDonnell's town. Yeah, and there was Hadley, obviously, inside Rudy Sub's doing his thing. But Nick's dad was playing in this tournament. I'm not going to say a classic Italian. By him, Richiey, who do a lot of work in Plum,

brought a 15-year-old ringer into this thing. 15-year-old boy. Genius. So we run into the Pisons, and Frank, Nick Staggers, you want to do a shot? Come on. Absolutely.

We go do this little Italian shot. Guy he's with Rich Shui, he fucking pulls out a cooler. He's got Gabal. He's got a little pepperon. Are you pronouncing this guy's name? He's got, R-U-R-Sude. There it is. R-I-C-U-T-I-T-I, I believe.

Yeah, he's. He's a good concrete guy. He's a good contract. This guy's got a lot of jobs. Build houses, yeah. They don't paint houses. We don't know, actually. But we do know they build a lot of houses.

A lot of them in there. Concrete guy. Yeah, so is Nick's dad. I mean, they weren't together. They're very tight. Morolla is in Richie's basically at this point. Rich Schuzee running there. And Frank's coming in laying down a concrete.

Whatever the case. Fucking cooler out. Yeah, I'm like, all right, this got to be where the shots are. Uh-uh. Ice cold pursuit. Gobogool. How you don't? Whole plate.

Whole plate of gobble. Moussadale? Yeah. Fresh. Italian on the logo. We're speaking. It was not English language on there. And I'm just sitting, Rolling Fields parking lot. Just taking a little, a little bit of this on there, a little bit of that. Thanks, boys. A little bit of a shot over here. Grazie prego, do the whole thing. They were 15 under. They want to win the tournament. Did they win the thing?

I'm not sure. I... It sounded like everybody won. Check the website. We did not win. I will say, we didn't finish, actually. We played six. 16 out of the 18 holes. Shotgun starts starting on hole four is tough. Cause... Oh man, ways away from the clubhouse when you're done. Well, not only that.

Four to nine, because nine to turn, everybody's having a good time. Sure. We were acting as if we did play nine full holes there. It's hard to miss out on that good time with the third. You want to take advantage of that. And we did. We're only five holes in, though. We weren't actually nine holes in.

So that kind of offset us a little bit. You know, and then we're going down around the back nine. We get the hole 17. It's like, oh, we're at a hole six. 17, oh, we're nowhere near done. We still got this hole 18, 1, 2, and 3. So I think it was set up for a way for us not to finish, they kind of knew what it was going to be. We could have albatrossed the last four holes. Sure.

So we'll never really know what our score was. But, yeah, we had a good time out there. Shout to the Maine's family. Great to see everybody. Shout to Rolling Fields. The Larman family, our friend owns it now, runs it. Needs it. Need some water. We need a little bit of grass. They need to be doing some rain dancing out there. they need any nature to cooperate with rolling fields what a time gumpy a lot of boozing out there felt like it felt like everybody was very intoxicated love that yeah the tequila to get it started about noon wasn't uh wasn't ideal but that kind of sends us on our way it was it was a reunion for

like our whole high school basically but it was all the people that we knew so it was like perfect yeah it was like it was a great setup to be honest it was great to see everybody raised money for a kid named blake uh who had a heart couple of heart things. He was awesome. It was cool. It was a really good time back there. The Phil Mainz Classic delivered, and he started at a Gabba, cool. Amen. I will say to Gabba. I heard it's a great time. My brother, Mikey Dogs, represented for the DeGillio family. I saw him early. Yeah. I saw him early. He was one of the first people I saw when we pulled up. It's great to see him. Gino Rameito showed up with a crocodile

belt yellow shorts, purple. That was four of the first people. That's incredible. Yellow shorts, purple shoes I think you just had I don't know if he okay I don't know if the shoes accessorized the shirt that was purple yellow shorts crocodile belt Hadley was actually wearing bowling shoes

Hadley and Gumpy were getting after it Gumpy doesn't play but he's there and Gumpy starts talking shit to the people that are actually playing but Gumpie said no bad shots Gumpby said no bad shots

nothing people who are golf and love more than a guy who's not playing chirping them all day when they're not playing well especially if you do have a hint Vangue. Yeah, he absolutely does. Which golf happens, yeah. Yeah, he were playing golf.

Hadley was a good golfer. He was a lot better than I, every time I play with him, I remember, oh, he was a deck hockey, like, that is. He's got the rotation. He's got hand. And how he's cleaning windows, too. He was telling me how he squeegees with no flubs. Like, he's got great hand.

He's cleaning a lot, too many windows. No flubs cleaning those. Call him if you need it, right? Doesn't he love when you pub him up, give him some pub? He's got too many windows, especially with the heat wave that hit Pittsburgh. give him a call i'm gonna die out there i'm gonna die out there i got too many windows they all need to be cleaned it just it never ends everybody has them hadley's window washing call him up he needs business and he's best in the biz next to miss nick's dad put his phone his phone number on the

fucking sign at the whole yeah we took a picture with it the number's just right there i was posted it immediately like all right we don't need the house number getting blown up here what a time i said the same thing though he's always bitching he's too busy i'm like well then what you putting your phone number on the sign that everyone's going to take a picture of? Yeah, why didn't you just put a bunch of these up and everybody will know who the fuck it was? They should have just had the table of Gabagool right there on that hole. I don't think they

want to give it to everybody. I don't think you want to get... I'll tell you. The pooling of the cooler out by the Italians, they knew that my mind was about to be blown. And by that point, I'm a little bit intoxicated already. And they're like, sit down. I was going to say, probably ready for a belly full. What did you have lemon cello? Because that...

Yes. Yeah. They were orange. As you said, Frankie's birthday party, he's orange gel. There was a jello, jello shots at some point as well. I remember a couple of those. Well, that guy's name was Colt, I believe. He was a ringer. This guy was a golfer, actual golfer. Chris signed him up to his team.

We did a little three extra whole thing. This guy was unbelievable. He was getting us a bunch of booze. It was a lot of seeing everybody, man. It was a lot of people. Our entire high school was there, basically. Good weather, too. It was hot.

Yeah, it's been hot. It's been very hot. It's hot as hell. Is it hot down South Florida, too? Yes. Like hotter than normal? Yeah, so my daughter's actually in, like, golf camp down there. They had two instructors just this stretch that have had, like, heat exhaustion.

So it's hot for you guys down there, too. I think the water is like 97 degrees or something like that? Much warmer. That went in the ocean down there. It was very hot. Northeast is still nice. It was like 65. Oh, seven.

Wow. Way too quick. People are looking for that right now. Legit. Yeah, it was so nice because I was coming from Indy. But it was 65 at night in the morning and then 75 during the day. AJ, you watching these training camps wishing you were out there? I can't say I'm wishing I was out there, but, yeah, I don't know.

I'm not. But I like watching. I do enjoy watching them. I do enjoy the clips that are coming out of it. But, boy, what we as fans now, we're missing a lot of it. You know, there's a lot going on other than just this one play that's happening here. The amount of, like, recovery and prehab, let alone just checking into breakfast 7-8. You got to check in the breakfast between 7 and 8 a.m.

It's like, well, I don't have anything until 10. Check in the breakfast between 7.80. All right, I'll fucking go show a face second. I'm not going to eat anything. I'm probably going to go back. You got to show your face to 7.8. You forget about, like, every... Drug test.

We always talk about the whole building and how everybody's... Like, I was just reminded with that Rich Rod, with the guy who's, you know, playing a ref, spot it, get out of the way. Like, everybody, like, those dudes, there's so much shit on their place. So, they got laundry. they got to do this you got a car it's the line the field you got to set up drills you got like

you got a four a day you miss one thing and you're fucking it up for everybody everybody it's crazy being being removed from it you just forget all the other shit that goes into it so many pieces yeah to the puzzle legit those equipment managers any athletic the athletic trainers are up at three and they're going to bed at midnight that's just kind of what the athletic trainers are doing right now people are saying these water boys make a hundred dollars in a year it's like they fucking deserved they were working a hundred and fifty hour week they were they're really going

it's like I didn't even think about that just forgetting how hot it is too like when we were in Laetrobe I was like I can't imagine fucking playing practicing football and full pads and then you look over and some guys are wearing sweatshirts and sweatpants under it's like

this guy's gonna fucking die today it's insane how hot it's been yeah it's uh do you watch hard knocks at all I always saw clips I haven't got to sit and watch the whole thing Josh Allen had hoodie on Yeah underneath that was very

He's awesome man He's awesome I'll tell you I he's I mean He's the guy Cool customer Legit

Like almost I didn't expect it to be As much as it is Because he's the biggest shit talker too Right And like he's got like a real Phil Rivers feel Here Because like whenever

When he's leading And talking to the boys Behind the scenes And you know Whenever he's doing all that In the meetings and practices He's like this guy is like first-class citizen

you know like I don't want to say that shit talkers aren't first-class citizens but you get it like everything he's saying is perfect for the exact moment that he's in and then they talk about him getting on the field flipping a switch this guy's the biggest shit-talker out there it's like I kind of like that I like to be able to put the cape on and then go back

out and just kind of do your thing are they going to win it all the Buffalo Bill's going to win it all this year or like ever I don't know It feels like it's just because of how we speak of the Chiefs and like when I think of the Chiefs, I think of the New England Patriots and I know that any time the Patriots and Brady lost a big game

that next year they were going to be in that big game again and they were going to win it. Yeah, so you're thinking what happened in the Super Bowl was a nice little reminder. Just typically usually those guys like you're trying about taking the cape off with Josh Allen. I don't know if Mahomes takes the cape off ever. I think he almost damn near just keeps it on year round and now they're going to do it again.

I'm not saying Josh Allen doesn't work on the outside, but it does feel like him off the field from this hard knocks is like president, like goddamn president, like the way. That's how it seems when he's signing autographs and stuff at Trading Camp, all those clips that come out. Unbelievable. It's amazing. He says the right thing in every situation.

Like I'm listening to him talk about what training camp is and talking about getting away and seeing everybody. It's like, oh, he's giving like the best answer for everything. And then he's walking past a bunch of kids that want his autograph. It's like signing after practice. Okay, like one person talking to a thousand people, one person, I'll sign you after practice, and then they show him signing after practice to the person. It's like recognizing people that he has signed for in training camps past.

Yeah, it's like this dude is a fucking machine. Like he's seemingly the perfect human almost at this entire. And then they're like, well, he's the biggest shit talker in the game. I'm like, I love that. I love everything about that. Can they win at all? That's the, I mean, they can. They have to, right?

That's the only expectation. They got the fucking MVP. It's going to be the same question with him and Lamar. Every year. Can they get it? Joe Brown. Joe. Yeah, Joe, it just went and lost. But, you know, they are so, Dan just mentioned when he's putting the list together. It's like those four on the top of every list. But it's like, can you get it done? Can you get over the hump? And until you knock off, you know, Michael Jordan back to back, which is Patrick Mahomes right now. It's going to be tough. 71 pound. He was in second place. I don't know if you saw. Catch 23. Big white marler. Yeah, he was in a fishing contest. He was finished. I don't know if he finished at the time. At the time, he was in second. Because he only has 71 pound. Yeah, but that's what sucks for a lot of these teams.

We were talking about the Broncos before the season, or before the show today. It was like the Broncos could, I mean, they have 50 million. They could be really good. Very good. It could be really good, but they're in the Chiefs Division. So, like, how do you even gauge all those teams, the charges too, yeah. Yeah, defense is unbelievable. We assume Bo Nix is only going to get better, right?

We assume Bo Nix only going to get better with Sean Peyton. Sean Peyton loves them. You can tell Sean Payton's obsessed with them. Like, yeah, I think the Broncos are in for a nice little run. Now, think about the Broncos, though, what they had to do, the decisions they had to make. Obviously, the Walton's have a lot of money from the Walmart money and everything like that. They own a lot of teams. You get it, yada, yada, yada.

But hiring Sean Payton and then just being like, you're allowed to do whatever you want. I want to get rid of the starting quarterback and have the biggest salary cap deficit in the history of the league. Do whatever you want. Done. Do whatever you want. If it ends up working, I'm intrigued to see what teams in the future start like being like, hey, we're just going to believe in what you do. Does it start building patience with teams? does it start helping other teams do people start moving on from bad contracts quicker and just take the hits if they're able to have the success going forward it's like i think they will i believe in sean peyton i believe

i believe in bow nicks too and i definitely believe in their defense their defense yeah outrageous right oh yeah yeah and they'll be able to pay all the coaches so it's like they'll be able to continuity-wise i think be able to keep everybody around over there it's like the broncos are in a great spot but they're in the afcc well and i know like the end goal obviously like no one's just trying to make the playoffs you want to win Super Bowl, but I think you would already say, like, his tenure has been a success. Like, I don't think anyone expected them to be as good as they were last year. They went to the playoffs with a rookie QB, their first year, and then now, yeah, it's like the expectation is Bo Nix is only going to get better.

And when you have a defense like that, like, you know, that's the type of stuff that travels in the playout, like, they could be anybody in the playoffs. Congratulations to the Denver Broncos fan base. They were going through it there. Yeah. Brock Osweiler got like $80 million. Yeah. Do you remember?

Oh, yeah. Trevor Simeon, right after him. I don't want to go through the whole thing. Brock, handsome, gentleman, great football player, very tall, everything like that, does great on TV. But it's like, there's been numerous times now where they thought they had it a couple times. And then do they got it? I was like, oh, shit. Got it.

Yeah, how about when Russ was there? Like, they're six and five, right? This is how the story goes. They're six and five. Russ goes into the office, and Sean Payton's basically just like, hey, we're going to need you to take a pay cut. Oh, yeah. Now. Oh, yeah.

After a win. Immediately after a win. Like, they went through the bad Russ. Sean Payton damn near turned the Russell Wilson experience around because they started like one and four. And then they turned it around and they won all those games in a row. And still, Sean Peyton was like, yeah, he's still, he's not our guy still.

We need to move on. It's crazy. There's so much into it. Business, somatical. So close. Athleticists. Yeah, what should you say? Three weeks from Thursday.

That's insane. We can make it. Yeah. Which means college football starts. two weeks yeah yep let's go just fucking injuries yeah that's every time something that sounds like that rshawn slater one is crazy and also

micah tray everybody yeah is seeing that because that's what two weeks after he signs is or one week after he signs his deal 10 days it's like that his agent immediately hey remember we're good we're set up we got these clauses in here no voids because of this your injury guarantees actually this this, it's like the agent is calling and saying good work on getting a deal done, but Sean Slater saying, damn, this can be a long recovery. And that's also another thing we don't

talk about. Like Stafford, he's in street clothes today. Hopefully he's back. He's getting epidural. That's not fun. None of this is, none of this is fun. Dislocated pinky, not fun. Yeah. There is the negative side of it all. And maybe it's a firework too for some people, but nonetheless, the recovery on the other side is an ass beating in of itself. Good luck to all the boys on their recovery. Yeah, especially. I mean, like, Lynn Dickerson yesterday, I don't know, we don't know exactly what the injury is correct yet,

but like you lose him and then you lose Mackay Beckton. That's two guys off of the O line, which was basically the most important part of your team all last year. Dr. David Chowell said that everybody taking a knee. It's not good, yeah. Yeah, he said the knee taking is interesting, but it might be hot training camp. Everybody kind of taught here.

I like that he wrote, I like that he's riding shotgun. Honestly, that makes me have a little bit of hope that he's maybe, I don't know. Yeah, the only thing that makes me think is carting for offense alignment is a massive decision in of itself. Especially that offensive line, I would assume. Like, even getting on a cart is like a big decision for an offense alignment. But maybe they're like, hey, we need to go. You need to not put any more weight on this. And hopefully they'll get good news out of the MRI.

Because to your point, that offensive line was, they were the show. They were the show. Is that offensive line. Now, Sequin obviously is the lead character of that entire show. But that offensive line, what was it? 800 and some yards before contact? I think it was even higher at the end of the season. He said he would have been like the

third leading rusher in the NFL just with his yards before contact. And let alone Sequin's impossible to tackle. So let him just go ahead and put the biggest season of all time together. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Boys, football's here. Here we go. Here we go.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. AJ, you're the best. And we're growing it out, huh? Yeah, I guess. Like I said, Let's go. What did Laura say? I kind of yearned to. I had an old bull.

Is that what she said? What was that? Finish that word comment. What is it? I had the old bull. I don't want the young cat. She's a sweat dripping down my... I got a luscious v.

chest pews. Going out of my chest hair to my ball fro. And she grabs me by the penis. What I'm I supposed to do? What a show? Shut the fuck up! So is that what you're doing?

You're going back to the young. calf? No, I mean, you know, like I got grow the sides of it. They don't figure something out. I'll cut it. Yeah, we'll be here for it. I think now's the time to really try to do that. Yeah. Three weeks before the football season starts.

Just fuck it. A whole new face. You know? Why not? A lot of people do that before camp usually, actually. Yeah, we'll be pretty excited for it. To kind of watch it all evolve. We'll be here for it every step of the way.

Actually, a screenshot every single day. National Championship? Oh, he's going to have a little. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. A little bun. Maybe a little samurai. Yeah.

That would be sick. I don't think that's the plan, but we'll see. Hawk Hair Watch. Oh, 2025. Mm-hmm. Look out. Never. There it is.

That's what we're looking for. That's what we want. You want to grow that back yet. No, I'm making a perm before I do that. Yeah. You should. Think about that affliction T-shirt coming back, too. And also, also, bang.

Yep. Bang. Bring back the big boots. Bang. Oh, man. bang we can do it I should especially if you're wearing

affliction you have to I have to I think you gotta walk around actually and just say if you get it my way I should bring it back it should bring your affliction back get the jeans with the big laces you know and all that Paramount Plus needs to think about

investing in infliction you know you sign a UFC deal there you go how do you get the paper view buys new affliction shirt 4999 yep who's the spokesperson boom

Tom Cruz oh TC in their affliction I don't know if any shirt TC's wearing anybody's buying $49.99. That's about $249. That's fair. That's fair. Which is kind of the affliction. He's the company, man.

He might do it for Paramount. He is the company. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Great work in the back, boys. Way to get back in the saddle. Hey, boys. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. More bullshit. Breaston DeChambeau will be here for the entire second hour.

I think we have some other stuff happening. You are the best people on Earth. We missed you a lot. We had a great time off, but we certainly missed this. We're lucky to do this. We're thankful for this. And this can be the best football season we've ever had. I think so. Bye.

Be a friend, tell friends. I'm nice. My change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team.

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