The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1391 - Daniel Jeremiah, Adam Schefter, Marty Smith, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

On today’s show, Pat is out of town on assignment, as AJ Hawk guest hosts in the ThunderDome with Darius Butler and the boys as they discuss the news that Daniel Jones has been named the starting QB of the Indianapolis Colts, last night's Monday Night Football game between the Commanders and Bengals, and everything else happening around the NFL. Joining the progrum is former NFL scout, color commentator for the Los Angeles Chargers, and NFL Network Draft analyst, Daniel Jeremiah to chat about who has impressed him the most so far this preseason, his thoughts on Caleb Williams, the Colts QB situation, which player/team he thinks is poised for a breakout season, and more. Next, ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter joins the show to chat about why he thinks the Cowboys and Micah Parsons are headed for a divorce, the Colts going with Daniel Jones, Trey Hendrickson's situation, an update on Jordan Love's thumb, and more. Later, co-host of Marty & McGee, SEC Insider, and ESPN jack of all trades, Marty Smith to chat about SEC football as a whole, CJ Carr being named the starter at Notre Dame, Cam Newton getting his jersey retired, if Jon Gruden is going to the SEC, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you on Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here we go Tuesday, August 19th. I'm A.J. Hawks sitting in for Pat as he travels the world, I believe, right? Boy's doing something pretty awesome. I think we'll all see it eventually. Football! It's what we do. It's August 19th. I know sometimes people think there may not be a whole lot to talk about in the football world, but guess what there is. Coming right off the top, we had some breaking news hit about 45 minutes, maybe an hour ago. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius Butler, is just. jumping out of his shoes. He is so excited.

Daniel Jones has been named the starting quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Clap up, boys, for D-Jay. Hell yeah, excuse me. Excuse me. It's a big day, too. Big day. Been a believe bar for a long time, man.

Derry Spunk, let's go to you. Obviously, Indianapolis Colt legend, nine-year NFL vet. You know everything about football. So the fact that Daniel Jones was announced starting quarterback today. I guess what does that do for the Colts? What does that do for the team? And were you expecting this? Or did you think Anthony Richardson was good? I was not expecting it. I didn't know. I didn't know which way I was going to go. I'm not,

you know, shocked, you know, but AR, he had an opportunity. DJ, Daniel Jones had an opportunity as well. A.R. I felt like it was probably his job to lose, so he couldn't beat out Daniel Jones. And the people that I've talked to, I guess, around the organization close to who have seen the battle, didn't seem shocked, didn't seem surprised. So that lets me know. And I said it yesterday. The locker room won't be surprised. You know this as well. If it's a quarterback battle, you probably weren't around many quarterback battles thinking of the teams you play with.

But if there's any time a quarterback battle is happening, the locker room shouldn't be surprised when the starter is announced. So it's another opportunity for Danny Dimes. You know, he is somewhat a relatively young quarterback. We have seen more of him on the football field. So AR, still younger, still more upside. But you got to think about it. Shane Stiking, Chris Ballott, they're coaching for that. job. You know, hardly taking over the ownership role. Everybody knows they're coaching

their plan for their jobs day in and day out. So this decision made with that in mind, consistency was a big thing for Shane. I, based on my timeline, doesn't seem like Coach Nation is very, very excited. It's been a revolving door and you drafted a guy in the top five so you had high expectations. But this is where we are right now. We made some moves and now we know with direction we're going. So Daniel Jones is our guy going forward. That's my thing. Like the Colts Twitter is very, very mad about decision. And I understand being mad because, yes, this basically signals not for sure, not 100% that you, but you wasted a top five pick on a quarterback that has not worked out.

So, yeah, as a fan base, when you waste a top five pick on a quarterback, that sets you back a lot, a lot of years. But being like really, really mad at Shane Steichen for picking Daniel Jones, I don't get, I don't think they're picking Dan Jones because they want to lose. I assume they were at practices and watched the film and watch both these quarterbacks and decided that Dan Jones was the best quarterback at this time to win games. So I don't understand why they're so mad at Shane Stuyken. I can see them being mad at Ballard because he was the one that drafted Anthony Richardson.

But or they're just mad at Shane Stigkin because they're saying they didn't give him enough time to grow as a quarterback. I mean, I thought they, you know, people were pissed because stinking. said, hey, he's our guy for the holds. Coach Steichen. Yeah, yeah. Bingo. What you guys said. He basically said, hey, Daniel Jones is the QB for the entire season. I thought that's why Colts Nation was so pissed, because it really doesn't make any sense. I like that. He's saying, like, hey, this guy's got no leash. Go out there, spin it. It's not as if you throw a couple picks, you know, we're going to

pull you. But if they're two and six going into week nine, and Stikin is up there saying, hey Dan Jones is still our guy you got to put AR in because now everyone's talking about okay so they're done with Anthony Richardson but then if you listen to what Chris Ballard said before Chris Ballard said like hey this isn't a maker break year for Anthony Richardson so

maybe like the fifth year option there's no way you can really pay someone to give someone a fifth year option especially at QB if they don't play this year but if Dan if Danny Dimes goes and balls out and his number is like astronomical and stiking in them keep their job

and AR has another year, you know, to learn? Do you think it's possible that they can bring AR back and see, like, you know what? Yesterday he took an entire season. There was no injuries. There was no off-to-field stuff he just learned behind Danny Dimes. Like, do you think there is a realistic route where that could happen? Or, hey, if Danny Dimes does well, the Colts are going to inevitably pay him to keep him here. There's no way AR can be.

It's a great problem to have, obviously. If Daniel Jones steps in and plays so well that they have to pay him, a bunch of money. But what do you do with Anthony Richardson? I don't know. I mean, how do you, now you got to think about Anthony Richardson also mentally for the rest of the season. Like, you've got to be ready. You're one play away, obviously, but it's got to be like a jarring blow. When you're thinking, hey, I'm going in, here we go. You're two. I'm healthy now. I feel good. He's done everything. It came into camp in shape, all this stuff. And then you realize, hey, I'm not getting the starting nod. But you know, like,

that's the thing that you have to realize you're one play away. There will be a time this season when they're going to need Anthony Richardson. I don't know how long that might be four might only be a series might only be for a quarter may a game or two maybe 10 games we don't know but you have to be ready tie well like conner was saying like obviously stiking like him saying that danny dimes is going to be the start of the whole year is just posturing like that's bullshit we know that's not the case if they start oh and four like they're going to go to anthony richardson so it's it's one of those things where i mean but i don't know i mean you guys would know more but like you said like the locker room's not

shocked like you can't really pout or anything because Anthony Richardson had every opportunity to win this job. And if it would have been even somewhat close, they're probably going with Anthony Richardson. So Daniel Jones went out and he won this job and left no doubt. So, I mean, I don't know, but it's also you're looking at what he's done in his past and his career. It's not like you're backing up Aaron Rogers and it's like,

okay, unless this guy gets hurt, I have no opportunity of playing. Like you mentioned, like there is a good chance that they're going to need him to play this year, and he could play himself into the starting role within a couple weeks if they don't play well. Yeah, I can stand near the Baker-Mayfield situation, verbatim, especially just when you look at the Colts offense. Now, they don't have, you know, Mike Evans and Chris Gobbin, but Michael Pittman's been paid. He's very, very good. And then they have a couple guys on there that you would assume if they have a good season, they might get paid. Josh Downs, you know, maybe not AD Mitchell because it's only his second year. But when you look at just their skill in general,

it is like Baker going to, yeah, bingo, it is like him going to Tampa Bay. And if Danny Diamond's is legitimately probably thinking to himself like, here we go. If I go out there and win nine games, like I probably earn myself a $40 million contract again. I mean, he saw it last year. He finished the season with the Vikings. Like, he saw it, he saw Darnold do it. Like, it's, it has happened more lately than I feel like it did. Yeah, I guess who's the next guy?

Who's the next QB to kind of revamp your career? It happens like every year. Yeah, Gino. Like, you know, Darnold, Baker. Like, it's happening all the time now. And he's the first round pick. So he obviously has to be excited. You, he has all that we talked about it.

He has all the pieces. And I said it earlier. It is the NFL. It's not for long. Coach is the coach for their job. Chris Ballard is GM in for his job. And I feel like he's done his job to put a good roster together around these quarterback.

And he has to feel somewhat good because you do. You go out and take a shot, drafted Anthony Richardson. But then you bring Daniel Jones. and who had a competitive market somewhat. Like other teams wanted, you know, Daniel Jones to come in and play for him. So you bring them in, and then Daniel Jones wins the job. So now, okay, you rest on, you use the piece around. Jonathan Taylor, the offensive line, the pieces on defense, who, you know, you got to get healthy.

And they have to play better bringing in Lou over to call the shots on defense. So, you know, you have some hope. But as a team, as a locker room, it is good. You know, you hate not really having that direction, not really knowing who your guy is. and we just mentioned those names, Sam Darno, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield, who have revived their careers in different places, so it will be their opportunity there.

It'll be tough for Daniels. It is good, you know, being named the starter for the year, but he knows, I'm sure he hears the noise. He knows the fans aren't clamoring, the fans are, right? Yeah, the fans are exiled. But he's coming from New York, too. So, you know, he's used to kind of dealing with those things, man. But it's going to be loud.

It's going to be tough. But as Coach's fans, I'm sure you're frustrating. A lot of people are kind of, you're seeing a lot. lot of Archmanning, rock pitch. He's not coming out next year, right? That's what they're saying now. We'll see. But I'm still hopeful as a coach fan.

I got to be optimistic. It is, what, August 19. So we got our guy. We got our guy. And both of these guys, regardless of who won the job, I felt like we would have seen the other quarterback at some point. It's just based off what we've seen with these guys, not only just playing wise, but health-wise.

These aren't, like, necessarily Ironman up until this point in their career at least. I think this isn't the last we've seen of AR, and I hope he stays prepared. He stays ready for his next opportunity, whether that's here or somewhere else. And for the AR side, you can, I don't know, maybe give Bryce Young a call because he got benched, what, last year? And he's coming back. It's number one pick. Yes, number one pick. Looked really good.

It's looked really good in training camp this year. They love what they're seeing going. So you can come back from this. How difficult is it, though, with, like, the whole thing with AR has been like, hey, this guy needs reps. He needs to play. And it's like, okay, he's not going to be getting any reps. So it's like how does he actually get better when like all the physical stuff is there? But that is his biggest thing.

It's like this guy needs to actually play football to get better at it. It's tough because it's true. You're going to want to give all your reps to your starting quarterback. Especially even while, even if you throw a couple reps here and there to Anthony Richardson, hey, take the last couple of walkthrough or, you know, a few here. You're definitely going to have reps for him. But if you're not the guy and you're not the one that is going to be in there, yeah, like, of course we've got to focus on.

who's going to be in there on game day that's going to get the majority of our attention and the majority of the reps. So for Anthony Richardson, yeah, how do you continue to develop when you're not getting those valuable reps? It's like the whole cliche. You've got to get the mental reps. You've got to prepare like you are the starter. Yeah, you do. Sometimes

that's hard to do for 17 straight weeks. Yeah, do you think they have to, this is like, hey, you kind of have to trade this guy type of situation? Anthony Richardson, yeah. If you're... No, I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so. It's not like a, you know, when you have a guy with such a big, I guess, brand, and it's just going to cause a lot of distract, like a Cam Newton or Tim Tebow, or it's not one of those type

situations. I don't think it'll be a distraction because we've all seen, we all saw his career, you know, and how it's unfolded when he had the opportunity last year and the year previous with the injury and everything like that. So we've all seen it, and we know why he's the backup. And these guys, we see the preseason games, but we know that's just glorified practice. Those are, you know, two, three practices from these guys compared to whatever else they're doing in front of the teams and in front of the front office. So I don't think it's a situation. I think

you still, you know, you try to develop it. And once that opportunity comes, you know, you've got a harp on them to be ready. And it's going to be on him. Like, we're talking about, you know, get him reps and develop him. It's a national football league. We're feeding each other's families. Like, I'm responsible for you and the food you put on your plate. And same

for coaches, same for people in the front office. So yeah, you want the best for Anthony Richardson. But if I'm Chris Ballard, Oh, yeah. You know, David Jones better get these reps, and I want to see him getting better week in a week out, and the same for Shane, and the same for Shane than everyone else in that building.

Yeah, somebody, we're not going to keep waiting on the line any longer. Somebody who probably has a little more info on this situation. He's the host of the Move the Sticks Pod. We all know that. But before we even get to this, DJ, hold on a second. I know you're waiting for us, but check out this Dr. Pepper. You get me, Dr. Pepper. Official drink of the Thunderdome.

You don't like Dr. Pepper. You're not an American probably. That's true. Well said. Well, that's simple as it can be. And with that being said, please welcome Mr. Daniel Jeremiah. Thank you, what's happening, brother? What's up, boys? DJ, are you surprised at all that Daniel Jones' name started for the coach?

Did you know this was coming weeks ago? How do you feel about this? I wasn't really surprised. I mean, I just thought, you know, with Daniel Jones, it's a little bit of the unknown, which works in his favor, you know, in terms of being inside the building there. I thought Anthony Richardson, normally you'd say, the tie goes to the young guy. I just think it had been such kind of a rocky experience that they wanted to try something new. So he was going to have to be significantly better than

Daniel Jones. And, you know, the preseason, I didn't think there was a huge gap between those guys. But, you know, talking to people that have been in there during training camp and everything, you can you kind of see this swinging towards Daniel Jones. Daniel, can we tell enough from preseason games, especially with quarterback play? You can look at numbers and all that. I know sometimes they can get, you know, inflated if the guy takes a screen. past 65 yards for you or whatever gives you some good looking stats but can we tell when we watching these preseason games with quarterbacks and I feel like unless I'm there day in and day out watching practice and seeing hey how's the two minute drill going how's it going

move the sticks all that stuff how do we like can you evaluate quarterbacks from these preseason games I've always said like preseason is a liar so there's been times every single year where people will take something with the preseason they run with it and then there ends up being absolutely nothing to it now like with quarterbacks personally i think you can see you know it's the game too fast for guys you know it's only going to get faster when you get to the regular season so especially with you know rookies and young guys you get a sense of just how sped up they are are they a little bit uh under control is there some poise there i think those are the types of things you you know that you can glean from that i don't know that the production in terms of the

what the stat sheet looks like the box score if that tells you who's played well and who hasn't played well but you can see i mean you guys you guys know when you get rookies out there, young players out there, you can tell guys that, okay, he's going to be able to help us. That's kind of the way I look at it. Yeah, DJ, speaking of our quarterbacks, Ty Schmidt has a question for you. Yeah, DJ, so speaking of that, you know,

the preseason being a liar and everything, how enthused were you on Caleb Johnson's performance the other night with, um, with Caleb Williams. Oh, Caleb Woods. Mixed both. Yeah, I did. Ben Johnson.

That's impressive. But, you know, everyone saying the same thing, like, you know, vanilla defense, but he obviously looked unbelievable. What do you take away from his start the other night? Yeah, I was fired up. I mean, if nothing else, it just kind of gave you a display of the weapons, especially with Loveland being in the mix now. You saw a burden get one later on in the game.

So I think it was just kind of a display of like, okay, the offensive line looks, it's more competent now with the upgrades they made along the interior. We've got weapons, and it was kind of a chance for Ben Johnson to show off some of the creativity, which I think has been lacking there last year under Caleb. So, you know, I've never, ever questioned Caleb's ability. I think the talent is all there. I thought more than anything else, even more so than the offensive line and the scheme,

they need somebody to kind of pump him back up full of confidence. And, you know, you watch that preseason game. Again, more so than the stats or the throws, this looked like the old kind of confident Caleb Williams when he was rolling in college. Come in, go ahead, buddy. Yeah, DJ, thank you, AJ. DJ, great to see you.

Always a pleasure. You had a great tweet about New England. Last night, obviously, Terry McClure not there for the commanders, Trey Hendricksson, was on the field for talking to Duke Tobin. And then Micah, obviously, being the other guy. And you basically said, hey, look, if you're, you know, Elliot Wolf and the New England Patriots, you at least, you know, shoot your shot at Jerry Jones, try and go after Michael Parsons. I believe there was another tweet about the Packers, possibly, being one of those teams with Micah.

You know, everyone's interested in all three of these guys, if they are truly available. who do you think any of these guys are going to end up with and do you think Terry's probably going to go back to Washington maybe Trey Hendrickson the price goes down in a week or two and then he gets traded what do you kind of foresee when it comes to these guys well first of all I hadn't been on the show since we were going through the draft stuff

and I thought gosh what do I have to do to get back on the show and I'm like oh dude if I tweet about the Patriots like I'll be on you're killing me yeah so that was that was the easy way to approach that It's rare to see these guys, personnel guys, never go on the record on anything. Everything's always vague and nondescript. So when Elliot Wolf comes out there and publicly says, yeah, no, shoot, we'd be willing to trade a first or second round pick for a premier player. I was like, I don't know that you say that unless you really are trying to, you know, be aggressive and go after one of these guys.

So that caught my attention. And then the first two names that came up were McLaren and Hendrickson. And I'm like, okay, well, if we're going to go big game hunting, well, you might as well swing for the fences on that one. If you look at it and say, okay, you know, we've got the young quarterback. He doesn't cost us anything. We can afford a big ticket item. Then, shoot, I would start at the very top. Now, I don't think Jerry Jones, I don't even know if he takes the call, much less would entertain trading Micah.

But I would at least effort that. I think the more realistic one would be Hendrickson. I don't even think McLaren gets traded. I mean, I just, I think with where they are with their young quarterback and a team that was very close last year, you know, against the Eagles and the championship games, I figure that as soon as we get closer to the regular season, that thing gets worked out there in Washington. But Hendrickson, you know, the Bengals, that just seems like that's not, you know, that's not going in the right direction. And they seem to be, at least by all accounts, a little more open to moving him. So I don't know, I like the fact that the Patriots kind of put themselves out there and said, hey, man, we're open for business.

We want to be aggressive. That's not normally something you hear. DJ, as far as Hendrickson goes, I know they claim that they're close on the average per year that he wants. the guarantees are nowhere near what Hendricksons want. Do you have any idea what those numbers may look like and what kind of deal he's looking for? No, I have to go like, you know, I think Ian or one of those guys would be able to help you on the number thing in terms of where they are. I was talking to an agent who had a player this last offseason and a team, you know, as they were going through a negotiation and kind of hearing the stuff that gets out there publicly

and then getting a peek behind the curtain of like how, you know, far or how close they are. sometimes what's out there in the public and then what the differences are on the numbers can be drastically different. So you can be close to one or two areas, but if you're the agent on the player, if there's one of those criteria where they're not in the same ballpark, that's tough to get through. Yeah, go ahead, Debutt.

What's up, DJ? Good to see you. Quarterback battles. We just named Flacco got named yesterday. Daniel Jones got named today. It's one more out there down in New Orleans with Tyler and Spencer Rattler. Which way do you think they're going to go with that battle and when do they announce it? I mean, I can just tell you which way I would go. I would go with Shuck just from, you know,

seeing him live against the Chargers in that first preseason game and watching him a little bit last week. I think there's more to kind of dream on. This doesn't feel like it's a playoff, you know, type season for this squad. So let's learn what we've got. And to me, he offers more upside. Let Kellan work with him. You know, Kellyn does a nice job with the screen game.

They're going to, they'll give him some operational. opportunities to have some success. I don't see them winning a whole lot of ballgames, but he's shown enough to me that I'd be intrigued to see what he looks like, and they can go into the draft next year knowing what they have with him. So in terms of the timing of it, I mean, I think sooner than later you want to get that done, just so you can, as you guys were discussing, you know, prioritize and divvy up those reps and get him ready to go.

So that, he's older guy, too, man. He's got fucking four degrees. Like, you know, it's not like this is a long development here. How old is it? He's 25. We had the game against the Chargers, and I think Trey Lance, either the same age or maybe even younger than him.

He's been in league five years. That's awesome. Speaking of quarterbacks, they've been around for a while. Tone Diggs has something for you, DJ. Yeah, I do, Mr. Sticks. There's a potential situation brewing in New York with the Giants because Jackson Dart has played so well in those first two preseason games.

Now, Brian Dable named Russell Wilson, the starter, a while ago. but I mean it's we know dayball could be coaching for his job this season so it's like you want Russell Wilson because you know he's the veteran he's going to make the right decisions but then if you put Jackson darted at some point and he shows flashes they may keep you around just because they want to keep that continuity together how do you feel about the situation in New York and how Jackson Dart has looked so far in his first two preseason games yeah I really like the way that he's looked and that goes back to just you know he looks like it's the game is pretty slow for him

which is good to see. You know, it's a lot of vanilla stuff in the preseason. But he looked very much in control. You know, he can move around and create and make plays with his legs. But he's a nice job hanging in the pocket, you know, showing that toughness that he has and delivering some strikes working in the middle of the field, which is another good sign for a young quarterback that he's comfortable. He doesn't just stay and live on the perimeter.

He's comfortable working in the middle. I've said the same thing, you know, since they drafted him. I think this is a year where we see more of Jackson Dart than we see of Russell Wilson. but, you know, Russell Wilson, give us a month, man. Give us a month or six games. Yeah, wait, that's what, DJ? Do you think they have a plan? Like, do you think Daveo has some kind of plan in mind?

Like, or hey, Russ, you play yourself out of the job? Or what? You just keep going until we feel like you're not getting it done, Russ, or what? Yeah, I mean, look, dude, the schedule is brutal. Like, their schedule, there's no easy entry point for a young quarterback when you look at it. But I, you know, so I, look, I've been around teams and been on teams where the plan is like, hey, this guy is going to sit the whole year. We don't want to play them. We're going to redshirt him, basically.

And then two games into the season, you're like, well, frick, we might as well just throw this guy out there. So whatever the plans are, they have a way of changing. But I think we'll see more of Dart this year than we do of Russell Wilson. Yeah, DJ, I had a follow. But when you were talking about Chuck and the Saints and kind of seeing what they have for next year's draft, I know from listening to Move the Sticks that you've already dove into the quarterbacks from last year, I was listening to you guys around the time of the Manning passing, Academy, and everyone was very, very impressed with Sellers there.

Who do you see being the top quarterback in next year's draft? Because I know Arch probably not coming out, but Sellers, Nuss, Cade, all those guys. Yeah, I mean, let's assume that Arch is going back to school. I guess when you say, it's the first time with a prospect I've ever said, I'll take his grandfather's word for it. I don't think he's going to come out. So, dude, a lot can change and guys get back. better and guys, you know, regressed.

But I, I popped on sellers, and I don't know if I had had a good round of golf that day or what, but I was like, holy crud. Like, this dude is impressive. He is big. He is physical. He can drive the ball. He creates. I just, I thought this dude is, he'd be someone that's going to be really exciting

to watch. So I'll be, I'll be watching a lot of South Carolina. Nuss is just real efficient. You know, he would be underneath him right there for me. Just accurate, efficient, tough. excited to see him this year i'd have clubnick a little bit below nuss but shoot we'll see those guys score off week once so that might settle itself yeah dj how do you feel about the whole matthew stafford situation right now i know he's back at practice now finally he's dealing with some kind of back

injury i guess like do you know anything more and how do you like how comfortable are you with him i guess being able to make it through the whole season yeah i mean at back dude i don't think you mess around with that so i don't know how anybody could say you feel great about it or you feel super confident, comfortable about it. The only thing that I would say that I just witnessed it again the other day with Rams, they're playing their backups, and they're so well-coached, man, and they are so, they're so physical, even with their backup unit. They're going to be dynamic on defense with that front, and then you look at what they

want to do running the football. They've got some backs now. They've got a stable of backs in a real physical, you know, offensive line and McVeigh scheming it up. I don't know that they're going to be super, you know, quarterback dependent. So, you know, even if Stafford, I wouldn't be saying like, hey, let's just get him ready for the playoffs, like that you can't do that in the NFL. But I don't know that he needs to play a full 17 games or be kind of the driving force of that offense

for them to be a really, really good team and a playoff team. Go ahead, Tashmit. DJ, what are your expectations for Cam Ward this year? It seems like draft night, you know, he went first unceremoniously and we kind of swept right over it with Travis Hunter, you know, getting traded up for right after that. And even this preseason, he's had a couple nice throws, but he hasn't really wowed anyone. And he hasn't really been part of the conversation like a lot of these other guys have been.

What are your expectations for him this year? I went out there and saw him at training camp. And I'll be honestly, just watching him at practice and then watching the preseason. I'm way more concerned about the guys catching it and the guy's blocking for him than I am. I think he's going to be good. And you saw some big-time throws in the preseason that just weren't always hauled in. Ridley's a stud, like, he's going to get a ton of balls. But they've got, you know, they're going to have a mixture of some bets like Lockett.

And they've got some young kids like I.O. Manor as a rookie. But I don't think the offensive line is quite where it needs to be. But look, I was talking to some of their coaches and stuff. And I'm like, saying it nicely. But, you know, hey, the good news is last year you guys were bad and boring. I don't think you're going to be boring. I don't think you're going to be boring this year. with Cam. He's going to make it kind of fun and you'll see some splash plays. But

they're in the very early stages of building out that roster. They earned the first pick. Yeah, I guess that is true. You do earn that thing. But speaking of teams that might be under the radar a little bit, the Seattle Seahawks, what do you make of them this year? I think Sam Darnold out there, I'm very curious how he looks, obviously played great last year, earned himself a contract with the Seahawks. Maybe we are biased because they're so far out there. We don't talk about them as much. But what do you think of the Seahawks this year? I really like what I've seen. And again, I'm trying to not contradict what I said earlier about not getting too overzealous here in the preseason.

But man, like Kubiak, that system fits Sam Darnel perfectly. Sam looks confident and comfortable. You can move him around. They, you know, upgraded that offensive line. Gray Zabel has probably been the best rookie in the preseason. If you just want to look at how they've played and what they've done, you know, to put him along the interior of that offensive line. He can get up to the second level. He's going to help him have a firm pocket, pass protection.

He's a really good player. So I love what they've done. And they've got a lot of good young pieces on defense. They're fast. So, yeah, I'm high on them. I think they got a good shot to win that division. What about that backfill? Who's going to be the starting back?

I saw you make a comment about Charbonnet maybe being a better fit in Kenneth Walker. What do you see them leaning with that backfill? Yeah, I mean, look, Kenneth Walker is explosive and talented. and he's a, you know, he's a really good football player. I just think Charbonnet, with some of the stuff they're doing, I just think he sees it a little faster. He's a little bit better fit in that regard. I think they, you know, they're both going to get out there and play a ton.

But I just was watching Charbonnet and I'm watching the system and, you know, the creases are going to be different when you're running that stuff. And he's just got a really, really good feel when you're stretching it to sort and see it go. So I'm, you know, I was impressed what I saw with him. We'll see how they divvy it up. as we go throughout the year but that's a good problem to have yeah DJ we saw some good ball last night Monday night football tone digs has a few questions about that yeah DJ I feel like you are the man to ask you would know more about this guy than than others the rookie uh what is it

bill crossky merit was jacquora crossky merit believe he was at unelv for a year and then didn't play last year at Arizona maybe so but the internet is a buzz with him especially with the Brian robinson junior trade rumors uh what's your scouting report on this guy yeah he he's tough man you go back you look he he went to the east west shrine game is where he kind of popped and so you go and watch him he was healthy like kudos to him he could it you know he gets hurt he could have just said i'm just going to wait and get to the uh you know get to a pro day and show that i'm healthy but he went to an all-star game uh it did a really nice job there and he's had you know he he tested well he ran well so you know he's he's got some speed he's he's a hard

physical runner um i mean he he helped himself a ton late in the process and then i you know I've talked to Adam Peters, maybe a week into training camp, just checking in with him. He's a San Francisco Giants fan, mostly making fun of him for how bad the San Francisco Giants are. But just to ask him about these young guys. And this was the first one that he mentioned, just how fired up and excited he was, what he'd seen. So, man, they found themselves one. Why is he a late pick, DJ? Because he wasn't healthy.

He just hadn't had a healthy, you know, whole process. And it's a running back, and there's always a ton of running backs. And we don't value running back. anymore for some reason we don't value I don't think it's much as that I just think that you know you there's it's hard to evaluate running backs in college because it's such a space game right you know so

there's so much space you can have a lot of guys are real productive so when you're stacking up guys and like okay well this guy missed a huge chunk of the year doesn't have as much of a resume you know that kind of that kind of dings him all right go ahead calm man yeah DJ team that values running backs is the team

you kind of call every Sunday the Chargers kind of um what are the vibes out of Chargers camps? Obviously, you know, Slater goes down. It sucks. He's done for the year right after getting paid. But aside from that, kind of how is the mood, the vibe of the Chargers camp? And how's, you know, Trey Harris doing? I feel like we've heard a lot about Keondre Lambert Smith, the kid who kind of made a name early. And he's been the early wide receiver. Everyone's been talking about in camp. But what about Tray Harris? What about Hampton, how are the Chargers

going to be this year for you? Look, it's going to be fun. Last week in the preseason, Trey Harris kind of had his coming out party. So it didn't have a lot of opportunities in the first two weeks, you know, in the Hall of Fame game and in that game against the Saints. But I think he had like, what, five for 85

or something like that and was showing kind of all the different things he can do. He can work in the middle of the field, had a nice toe tap on a deep ball from Trey Lance down the sideline. You know, someone who is a, you know, former quarterback in high school. He just, he sees everything really well. He's going to be a good, good player. Now, with Lambert Smith, he gives you more of the juice and the explosiveness,

the big play stuff. I thought, you know, that game of the day, Quentin Johnson gets dinged early, and he went, they put him right in. So he was in there with the ones. And Herbert hits him on a corner route. So he's already got the trust of Justin Herbert, which is a good thing to have. So Hampton, he looks enormous, and we haven't had a chance to see him much in the preseason, but in practice, you know, talking to all the coaches every week, they love him. So he's going to be running the rock for sure. DJ, I don't want to put you on the spot too much here, but is there a player or maybe a team that we're sleeping on that isn't getting the pub that you feel like they deserve that,

and maybe two, three months from now, we're talking about a lot, and they're like an everyday guy that we're talking about this. Oh, that is a great question. I was thinking, like, team-wise, and I'm not, I'm not sucking up to the room, but I was thinking, like, just looking over the rosters the other day, I was like, who were the most improved teams? New England was, New England was up there as one of the most improved teams. I thought he was going to say the Steelers.

No, no, no, no. But I'll say this. I'll say this about Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is that defense had a chance to be the best defense in the NFL, and the offensive line with all these young guys and Fattano, who looks really, really good out there, right tackle. Projects not bad. like he's five yeah Rogers look good the tight end the when you have a bonus tackle is an as an extra

tight end I don't know what he's pushing weight wise right now but I know watching is a man child did I say wait did I see you did I see you tweet that uh he could be the next left tackle like he should be starting left oh dude I will I will you can mark this clip I'm in the same case in three years if in three years he's not a not only has made the conversion to tackle but is a starting tackle and I will say he's got a chance, a really good chance to be a Pro Bowl tackle. There's just not many guys that are that big that can move like that.

And if I was his agent, I would be like, here's what, here's what, you know, the 15th best hide-in in the NFL makes. Here's what it is. Now, here's what a top 10 offensive tackle makes in this league. Like, make the switch, dude. Your finances will thank you. I agree.

DJ, what did you think of, you know, Joe Burrow getting ragged on a few times last night? Would you be a fan of that if you were coaching that team were you the GM of the Bengals? I'm always on preseason. If you want to get some guys out there and get them going, I'm good with that. The quarterback's just different to me. Like I get, you want to get out there and get a couple series, hand the ball off.

You know, we want to throw a couple smoke screens out there just to, you know, get a little bit of a feel. But watching Joe Burrow drop back this many times in the preseason, I understand it. They haven't got off to good starts, and they're trying to rectify that. But I don't know that that's the right answer. Yeah, is how going to be able to get that defense going? I know they've given up some explosive plays early in the preseason. They said they've looked much better in practice. We know that that does matter.

But what's Algon going to be able to do with this defense? Because we know Joe is most likely he's going to beat Joe again. Their offense is going to put up points, but can the defense stop anybody? I think they'll get better. I think they have a lot of key young players that you'll see them improve. And he's not just a scheme guy. He's a good developer of players. and I think that college background helps with that.

So maybe that's why they're playing these offensive guys and playing Burroughs so much in the preseason because, like, dude, until we get the defense up to speed, we've got to come out to Gates humming. So, I mean, I think they'll get better. I don't think they're going to be great to start the season. I think they're still going to be heavily, you know, relying on Burrow in this offense.

But I don't know if you're a Bengals fan, if you can complain, is there a more fun offense to watch on a weekly basis than what they've got right now? It is pretty awesome. You are right there. But flip side, though, Washington, what about them? You think they take a step back? Are they able to continue what they have been doing?

And Jayden's obviously unbelievable rookie season. Yeah, I mean, Jayden's, you know, again, talking to folks there, everything's just somehow faster, which is hard to believe, as fast as he played last year and how he processed so well. That's gotten better. The offensive line's better. I think the biggest improvement is in the secondary. You know, they've got some young, talented, good pieces in that secondary.

I think they're going to be better there. their challenge is just going to be, can their front stand up to Philly, you know, and, you know, that's what they got to, who they got to get through to get where they want to go. So that's a little bit TBD for me. Yep, that is TBD, but Daniel, we appreciate you. We look forward to you, you and Matt Money Smith on the call for what the Chargers all season. Dude, we'll be in Brazil, man. We're going to Brazil here for the old. Are you getting like a, are they going to get you a laydown seat, I hope, for that long flight?

I'll be honest with you I like I like Justin Herbert's chances for the laydown seat a lot more than the radio analyst's chances we're hoping for an open seat we're hoping for an open seat I think it's 12 you guys could like if you had an open seat and you have three you and Matt Money Smith could lay like

head to foot you know what I mean well first of all I don't understand money as soon as we get on the plane's dead asleep and I'm like is it the noise cancelers is it the noise cancelers and I'm like I think there's something of I think there's a little more than the

noise cancans. He's using some BEDs on there, huh? Test him, yeah. Although it's to test him when it's in Brazil. That's not water in that cup. I mean, I'm pretty sure. Nice. All right.

Hey, DJ, appreciate you, man. We look forward to everything you do this season. We'll definitely have you back on. But ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Daniel Jeremiah. Yeah, DJ. What do you think? Anything he said, surprise you, shock you by any of that?

I guess he's kind of, you know, going with everything that's going on. Nothing is crazy jumping off the screen at him at like sleepers or sleeper teams or players. But you're right. Like when I ask that Seattle question, I do think. Everyone's very high. We have that weird, like, bias, like, because they're so far out there. We don't see.

Even with the internet, why does it seem like? We don't see anything. We don't, maybe because we are out here, you don't see any clips from them either. Like, I, nothing from the Seahawks ever really makes it into my algorithm. They might like it that way. I don't think so. They don't. They don't.

Yeah, they want people to talk about them for sure. but yeah, I don't get it when it comes to the Seattle. It's almost like when Christian McCaffrey was at Stanford. The guy's unbelievable running for 300 yards a game, but a lot of times he's playing at 10 p.m. and 10 p.m. Eastern, and people don't see it. It's different, though. I don't get it just because the car.

He was great. I'm saying everyone else should have known that, Ty. That's what I'm trying to tell. They want the Rose Bowl. I think a lot of people saw that one. I hope so, but they don't think he got the pub that he deserved. What are you saying, Carmen? Oh, no, I was saying, like, yesterday we heard, you know,

hey, Seattle's going to be good, and Arizona's going to be good. and guess what? The Niners are going to be good again. And guess what? The Rams are going to be one of the best teams in the NFC. Like, hey, that's not how it works. So one of those teams is going to be bad. And I personally feel like I look to Seattle to be that team. That's not going to be good.

Versus the other ones, yeah, definitely. Because at least they have continuity in the other three places. It's like, hey, Donald and Cooper Cup, I've never played a game together. So I don't know how long We forget Cooper Cup is out there Yeah we forget Cooper Cup is big go But again They lost Lockett

They lost DKK like They lost a bunch of guys But you're telling me that they're then Yeah they got Bobo and JSM But you're telling me that Darnold who has only really been good with KOC And it was last year But that Donald

And I think he did And he's definitely much better than he was But like we don't know if Donald's going to have the same year he did last year is the best year of his career in, you know, he was in Minnesota. Like, it is such a new building in Seattle for all those guys. That's why I don't understand the thought that, like, hey, Seattle's definitely going to be good. It's these other teams that we're not sure about.

I just don't, I don't see that. But then again, you know, Kenneth Walker, I feel like we all think is amazing. And Charbonnet is better than him now all of a sudden. Maybe they do have a bunch of unbelievable players as well that, you know, I'm just, I'm a stupid idiot about. What about the Raiders? We see Tom Brady out there wearing sweet white pants. Is that what he's wearing? With a white jacket?

Just peacocking all over. No, black pants is a sweet white jacket. He does wear the white pants as well. Just peacocking all over. That jacket is awesome. I do love that. But what are the Raiders this year? Like, what are, we know Ashton Gita, we know that dude's going to run people over.

We know he's going to be a stud. They will lean heavily on him. I would imagine, oh, that wasn't there. That was, yeah. They should be better. You would think they're. How many wins is that? Their quarterback situation is vastly.

improved. I love how he falls for me. I love how he falls for him. I'm putting a nine. Are they better than the Broncos, Chiefs, or Chargers? Oh. That's a problem. It's going to be top to get to nine. I got faith in, I like Gino. You got to clean up the

Red Zone picks. I love Gentie. You know, you got to see it, obviously, on this level. But Brock Bowers is arguably, it could be, you know, some people say the best tight in the league already going in the year two. So that was a great, you know, safety blanket have you got some decent weapons outside the question is obviously going to be the offensive line can

they protect gino and kind of prevent them from making some of those big time mistakes but i do like the raiders defense big question marks as well so yeah maybe nine is a little high with that division uh but i i definitely think they are better petero you know he he wins everywhere he goes the culture should be better the culture will be much different with um obviously him there and then tom bring being more hands on being in practice being around the building as the season goes on with him doing his thing in the booth, it won't be as much. But I'm a little higher on the Raiders than I have been in a while. Was Aiden O'Connell their day one started last year?

Am I wrong on that? He was Gardner? I think it was Gardner. They're in a much better spot at that position. And normally when you're in a much better spot at that position, you will improve. And they have that other rookie receiver that everyone's loving. Six and a half. Dante Thornton.

Yeah. Yes, out of Tennessee. Man, team win. They got the Browns at the lowest, four and a half of the team win totals over under. I see he's fair. Does that seem lower, or high to you? A little high. You can't say high.

You think four and a half winning is high? I would say high just because look at what the... Didn't Joe Flacco just get named starter? He did. Yeah. They got some talent on that defense for sure. They got some studs on the offense as well. I think they're better than the Saints.

But the division, the AFC as a whole, I believe, is harder. And the AFC North is much harder than the NFC South, you would think. There were like six teams who didn't win four games. Are people sleeping on the Saints? Four and a half games, I don't think so. They're a team that people definitely. do not have a lot of positive high hopes for, at least right now, this moment. Quarterback, you've got to figure that out.

And Shuck's going to be the guy, and that what the DJ said? I like his thought process on figuring out if he's going to be your guy or not because it is supposed to be a better quarterback draft. Kellynne Moore, what a test coming in year one, first-time head coach. I think you probably know who Rattler is. No. I don't know. Rattler's a dynamic athlete.

I know that. He carried South Carolina his scene. year and he came and he played he played decent last year but but yeah you know what I'm saying with that number two oh yeah he does have some Aaron Brooks him for New Orleans for a while that's for I mean when you don't have your quarterback have they have they talked about it's Kevin Morgan a name a starter before the first game like no they're just going to they're just going to roll someone out with a clown nose on why not just like give the other team any information I think they're doing like a magic curtain well let's ask you

We didn't know if Ohio State was going to name a starter before. They did, right? They did. So why did they? It's a good question. I mean, because the coach isn't, like, it doesn't matter who's the quarterback. It's not like we're choosing between Drew Bledsoe and Michael Vick. Like, that's a drastic change in how they play the game of football.

You're right. Now, these guys, I mean, Julian Seine Keenholz, they are actually both very athletic. They can really run with the ball and they want their different size guys. Obviously, Sane's a little shorter, very shifty and has a super quick release, which people love talking about. I like it. I like the name. I saw someone quote tweet this of the Ohio State fuck guys. Did you see it too?

It said don't even touch the gas of this Ferrari, man. You just put your hands on the wheel and you keep that wheel straight. Because basically the rest of the Ohio State offense is unbelievable. It's just like, hey, man, you just get number one the ball, or sorry, number four the ball, and then just get out. Did you show up to his signing? Did you take your kids out there to Dix's sporting goods? I saw the video of Jeremiah Smith.

Whoever put the video out said, I've never. seen like any hoopla for a college athlete like a half for Jeremiah Smith that was it was crazy just a billion people that's your that's your dick sporting goods it's not too far yeah yeah we go to that one a lot yeah he uh he stayed he didn't stay in sign for all he'd still be there he still signing for all those people were taking pictures he's absurd college kids that kid's got to go to class still for two more years yeah i mean i mean i don't know how you can i mean we got video right here wait and thanks for pulling this up fellows i mean look at this yeah this is this is wow this is next level yeah Is he the biggest thing in Columbus since?

What? I don't know. You tell me. Eddie George? I don't know. Like, it's a different time because- You got that far back? No, there's still monsters. Like, every time. There's always-

Yes, he was very, very. But I'm thinking, yeah, Maurice, I came in the same recruiting class as Maurice Corrette. I mean, his first game he ever played in the shoe. They're chanting his name, Maurice. Like, it was a special situation just to be there to watch that, seeing him do that. But Jeremiah Smith, he's kind of changed.

changed everything. Like, I don't know. He's in this era, too, with social media, with all this stuff, even though he's not out there all over the place. He dominated the entire playoffs. Like, if you were what, you know, he was a guy, you could count on every single game. Was a Texas game? He didn't have big, he didn't have a ton of it.

He's still bothered by that. They still really messed off about it. And they kind of just used him as a decoy the entire game. But, like, every other game we went to, it was like, before the game we were talking. And it was, like, he's going to have at least 100 yards and one or two touchdowns. That Oregon game? Yeah. And he did.

I mean, he's unreal. He's unreal. He had 103, 103, 103, he had 103, 103, 103, 187, 3 against Texas, which definitely bothered him. And then the 5 for 88 and a touchdown. But they're replacing coordinators as well, offensive and defensive coordinator. And the O'Donk has to. Yeah, so, yeah, that is definitely a thing.

And Chip Kelly, he's gone, he's with the Raiders. Knowles went over to Penn State. Yeah, he's driving. Matty P. Patricia came in, people are loving him. Early reports, they love that. Really? Matty P's been great.

There's a couple of mic'd-ups they have. of him. He was great as a D.C., always great as a D.C. He seems to be, like, having fun. Kind of. Yeah, he seems to be having fun, though. He was an offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots. Yeah, you remember? Yeah, I mean, has he talked much about that? Honestly, I would love to know what that year was like. I don't think he

really has. I'm assuming it was just kind of like a, hey, Bill told me what to do, so I did. Um, situation. But, uh, with Matt, Patricia, uh, shit, not I forgot what I was going to say. Either way, it's got to make you a better coach. So if you're a defensive coach and you coach offense for a year,

you realize, like, okay, what do I hate to see? Like, I would question guys on the offense, like the center, the guards, whoever hate, what do you guys hate that certain linebackers or D-Line does? What do you not like? And they all, a double-a-gap pressure, they all hate that, especially if you mess with them a whole game. I mean, you would

do if you want to mess with their calls. That's me and Matt. I'm lugging up the A-gaps. You've got to figure out protection. That's true. Before you do anything else will be, you got to figure out your front. Shouldn't you do that when you, like, if you're going against a rookie quarterback, a real experienced guys, hey, our, our Base defense starts with double A gap.

We're lined up mugged in the A gap. Yeah, we might never know. Before you even look at the safety, you got problems right in your face. You got to figure that. That's where Dick LaBeau lived. Boom. There we go. What a time.

Football's right around the corner. We're here. How many days? 16 days. Yeah, we're very, very close. Wow. Three days. 16 days.

College football this week. Saturday. Man, what a great time of year it is right now. So excited. I'm excited. We got it all day long starting with Iowa State and Kansas State in Ireland. Ireland. We were there last year, what, and basically in two days. We were there for 36 hours, had the time of our lives. That was for Florida State and Georgia Tech, which kicked off the wildest season of all time for Florida State potentially.

But yeah, not a bad little slate on Saturday. You're starting with that one in Ireland and finishing in Hawaii with Stanford at Hawaii. Who's favored over an ACC Power for school? Yeah, just the thought that we are going to be able to turn the TV on and from noon to football. yeah midnight there's football like it truly you know it does really pull at your heartstrings it does point it makes emotional it makes emotional you emotional you think about how long it's been and how how many other sports we've had to watch just to get back to you know and football and then texas is in the shoe a week after that you're going to be there yeah well i should be man i can't wait that whole first week there's a lot of games going out the flag no i'm not going to do that and leave that to professionals to the

band and everyone else. But like LSU Clemson, can't wait. There's so many. I mean, even Nebraska, Cincinnati is going to be okay. The U. Notre Dame. I want to see what Colorado is like post-Shadur. North Carolina.

Finally, Bill Belmont. Yeah, Bill's debut. Oh, it's a Monday night game too, yeah. You're opening up with TCU. I almost forgot about that. What does the Bill Belichick-led North Carolina football team look like? I did see he had a miced up as well.

You see that? Yeah. I like it. Bill's coaching the boys up. I mean, it was still, still, you know, throwback, same bill. It seemed like the same bill and just looking at, you know, you didn't see the players for too long in the frame, but it looks like he got some big boys out there. Oh, yeah.

Like he put together the squad. How many, what, 70 new players? Yeah, I know they are GMs so well, okay? Let's just get that out there. Of course. Michael Lombardi? Yes, Michael Lombardi, probably the best GM in college football, and they're going to be coached well.

But 70 new players, a lot of. it's a lot, that's a lot of new players. I mean, it reeks in Indiana. That's what Indiana, we've seen this work before. SIG and Bill are similar. Yeah, if it work with SIG, they are old school guys. You would think, like, hey, maybe if Bill does bring in the rights guys. Now, I'm not saying Ken Canada is going to be under center for the North Carolina Tarios, okay.

But who is going to be on the center? The kid from South Alabama, the mobile quarterback. Gio Lopez. Yeah, that they love. So who knows? There is, and this is kind of why it's cool, because you can bring in Bill Belichick, and Bill Belichick might be in the college football playoff this year, which is what I'm hoping, but also expecting it to take a couple years here, okay?

Just like West Virginia, it might take a little bit, and we have to be mentally prepared for those things, Joe. Maybe, or they're both in the college football play. But one thing, it just came out, I think, like 10 minutes ago, that Miami and Notre Dame game, which is a top 10, two top 10 teams. Notre Dame just announced their starting quarterback who is going to be CJ Carr, who we thought was going

to be all summer long, but then his name's Minci pushed him later on. Who was on Shregor? No, Thammel talked about the difference in offensive style. CJ Carr being more of a pocket pastor, so that's who they're going to go with down in Miami. Yeah, I can't wait. But

Debo, they got me thinking, Bill Belichick. How do you think, okay, did Bill ever give pregame in the locker room? Did he ever get juiced up? We're like, oh, okay, I never really saw out of bill like pretty emotional or he got us for maybe a big game or maybe he's pissed off before a game how did those go like right before you went out i wasn't he never got too uh animated it was just about the details and we we would have something we never did i never did any other team uh even on sundays before games we would kind of come together as a team and have a quick team

meeting to just kind of find sunday morning sunday morning yeah go over final checkpoints maybe change something so for away game i'm just thinking logistically like say you play a one o'clock away game. Would you do that Sunday morning? No. Because the whole team is really never together like on away games. There's a first bus, second bus, all that. No, I don't remember on the I don't remember on away games, but we would get kind of like the final

run through kind of what was going to happen that day, either for us or for the other team. Hey, expect some tempo early, expect this or do this or do that. So it was always preparation with Bill. And more than anything, more important, was the got to have it moments. So the two minute

plays, what are their favorite two minute plays? two-point plays, the fourth-down plays, which those are much more prevalent now. But back when we were playing, like, you know, guys didn't go for it on fourth-down that much. People didn't go, you know, have, you know, all these extra two-point conversions. But I felt like we were more prepared than everyone else. So the preparation of watching that miced up, hearing them just go over. Because, you know, football, the more it changed, the more it kind of stays the same. The fundamental of you can block, you can tackle, you have leverage, you know, your help is.

You communicate, like, those different things. And, you know, and just have fun. He would always emphasize, you know, having fun with your teammates. Really? Oh, yeah. He would tell you to have a big thing with Bill was, you know, celebrate with your teammates. Like if a big play would happen, like we want to see that juice. We want to see that emotion, not only for the impact that has on your teammates, but the impact that has on your opponents.

And I can remember been an opponent and, you know, being in Foxborough, and they go up, you know, four touchdowns. And Tom Brady spiking the ball and running up and jumping on grunk. Like he just, you know, went up in a close game. So all those little things, I'm sure he'll still emphasize and drive home. But I am still interested to see because those are grown in. And now you're dealing with, you know, grown men, but much, much younger men. So it would be very interesting, especially with 70 new guys coming to a team because now it's new for everyone. But if you want a guy set in your culture, Bill Belichick is probably one of those guys right at the top of your board.

To your point about, like, the young men, I feel like that's what's kind of changed now is that it's easier to deal with them. You know, we've talked to these kids and now, like, grown up, it feels like they already, that they're already, you know, that they're already, you know, polished. Yeah, exactly. like they're already kind of they kind of understand the game at least when it could not all cases of course there are kind of the outliers i mean and not as if it's his fault or whose fault is it is kind of still up in the air but like nico i amaliava where it's like hey turns into kind of a problem but still very polished you still don't really hear anything at least from his mouth of you know nico burying anybody so you would think too that if bill has success or even you know

has a large lot of enjoyment or things of that nature that more guys will look to jump back down because like let's say him and then let's say maybe like Gruden after this season because Gruden said that he wants to coach

in college like all of a sudden it might start being just a draw to go back down to the college and then vice versa where it's like hey Jeff Halfleys of the world who are at these like now feeder schools to the massive D1 schools like all right this sucks I'm just going to go be

coordinator and it just you know kind of swathes but it'll probably help everything because then the guys in college understand the NFL business more and then the NFL guys also who you know want to be headball coaches can go back down to college and kind of get them you know even more ready for the pros yeah I just I wonder for Bill Belichick D but I'd be interested like what you think can college guys how much is two information like we all know they say like if guy lines up pre-snap and you hear a coach in the sideline yell like alert five different things. Alert screen, I learned draw, alert to post, alert 973, alert like 15 different like, alert everything, pal. Like, I wonder how much Bill, like, he's probably learning

to how much I can give these dudes. Because it's true, like, leading up to a game, you can't give them a packet 30 pages long and say, here's their, here's their favorite things to do, guys. Like, not, like, you need to be. These guys got class. Yeah, they got class, got things to do. Like, they're not, they see that. They might just tune out right away, but how do you know exactly how much they can handle. That's something I think the coaching staff has to learn throughout the season, too. Yeah. What these guys can do, hey, don't put too much on them or, hey, maybe they can handle

a little more than we think. Yeah, I mean, once again, I'm going to trust Bill to figure that out and know, you know, when he has to simplify things and when he has to, you know, when he can complicate it. But the thing about it, going into a game, playing for Bill, you never, ever, ever felt unprepared. You never felt like the other team caught you off guard. Like, you were always prepared. Hey, if they come out and empty, we'll go.

We got empty answers. We got hurry up answers. we have the answers, it's just going to come down to execution. So it was never a super complicated thing. The only thing that was complicated there more than anywhere else is every week, and I don't know how he can do this on the college level, but every week, it was kind of going to be a new game plan. Like when you play most places, you kind of knew who you are, you know, week eight week now, okay, we're, you know, we're a quarters team, we're going to come out, we're going to mix in some pressure. We'll have some funky

third down stuff where else. But like Bill, you know, some week, it may be a three-four front, maybe this week, two weeks down in a lot, we may switch it up and run. some more 4-3 or have that's wild because people don't realize we just may have Kyle Arrington just come and just blitz off the edge like you know nine times this game because of what they like to do with Sprint right option on certain plays so it was so game playing specific and that's the only thing that's the biggest suggestion I think going from the pros to the colleges once again how much can they handle because they do have other things like when you're professional this is your livelihood this is what you're doing and that's still really

difficult. Other teams don't do that. You're kind of like your kind of based stuff is what they're based on. And I assume most coaches aren't comfortable with that. Like most coaches are like, I know how to call three. I don't know how to call a new thing. I don't know how to call a four three. Like and so the coach has to be insanely. But when you're when you're when you are a Belichick staff

like you yeah you can he always had very like even Mattie P. like what was like MIT guys? Oh yeah. He's like a rocket. Josh Boyer who I think is in Columbus now too. He was like his you know he came from like Kings College or something he was a D.B. Coach, so it's always a mixed bag with Bill. You never knew it was coming as a coach. When planning for life's most important moments, sometimes the hardest part is simply

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football that's what we've been talking about we really have that's good thank you thank to daniel jermeyer in the first half first part of this show we really appreciate we have adam shepter's going to join us here in a few moments followed by marty smith here we're excited for hour too but we were just talking off here a little bit tye smith there's been some news i know you are on the Adam Schaefter podcast. You are a co-host. Correct. Co-hosts. Well, I host the weekly six-pack. There we go. The weekly six-pack. What were you saying?

The six-pack of questions. Adam Schetcher was talking about Micah Parsons in the situation with the Cowboys. What was he saying earlier today? Yeah, he pretty much said that he thinks Micah and the Cowboys are headed for like an ugly divorce and that he doesn't know if it means that he will be traded before the start of this year or if he'll play for the Cowboys this year and then be traded like after the season but he made it sound like everything that he's hearing based on like Micah putting out the post saying he's ready to be traded he wants to move out for move on from Dallas he thinks that really pissed off the cowboys and then same thing like the

cowboys kind of publicly burying him and all that kind of stuff he basically said that they haven't resumed talks or talked about an extension or anything like that in a very long time and and he thinks it's he thinks it's pretty much over with and now it's just a matter of when that's going to be i mean that's big news if that we will ask shifty here when he joins us in a few moments but have we ever seen jerry move on from someone like cool of micah's caliber that he drafted okay we we draft this guy he's developed here and he is a cornerstone of this franchise obviously premier pass rusher in all of the NFL quincy carter has he gotten rid of any of these what any of these guys walk i just can't imagine a place where where jerry jones let

somebody like micha walk no matter how bad it gets it's not on like a mica level but that Randy Gregory thing just happened where, you know, they were going to sign him and then there was some money situation and then he basically just said, you know, screw the Cowboys and went to Denver and then, you know, Denver went how it went and he got released from there. But I don't think so to the Micah Parsons level, like not even close. Usually this is, like I honestly threw this when it started into the category of like T.J. Watt. Like, this is going to get done.

Jerry's just going to drag this out. and then they're going to give Micah a ton of money. I think most of us were insanely shocked if we didn't already know when we learned that he was playing on his fifth year rookie option without a new contract. Because that never, like, Jemar Chase got one after his third, right? And then a lot of guys get it after their fourth. But like, Micah is in that ilk, if you will, of those players in that draft class and how he's played. I mean, he's been top five of defensive MVP, basically every single season that's been in the NFL.

He played off the ball, linebacker in college. And he's one of the best outside rushers on the planet, but he also can, you can put him wherever you. Like, he's so difficult to block. Yeah, you look at pieces that, you know, you put value marks on, like, quarterback. You start there, and then pass rusher is usually the next piece, and he's been at elite level. So you asked a question about, you know, has Jerry ever moved on from a player at this point? go out on them and say no just like everybody else just because number one

there aren't many people on that list who will be what Michael Parsons has been since stepping into the league and then you know number two past rushers you know they never you know become available not guys like this so on this is this is wow even more than

I thought I was more confident in this deal getting done even more than T.J. Watt because of just T.J. Watt being 30 years old this guy being in his prime like you thought this was a no-brainer so it's crazy. Micah since being in the league he has had 13, 13 and a half, 14, and 12 sacks. Yeah, it's pretty good.

Yeah, he's a good production. It's unbelievable. And now, if that, like, I'm interested to see what Schefter says, but it will be crazy to see the hall for Micah Parsons and the contract, you know, both parts of the deal. And then this also becomes one of those situations where you've got to have to, you know, it's a three-team agreement, and one of those teams is Micah, right? You know, this is almost, is it.

it to the point of like Brandon Iyuk, you know, last offseason where teams were reaching out to the Niners and they agreed to turns, but then you know, Iyuk would say no. Like, do they have to do that with Micah here or how is it? The rookie deal. Before you trade for him, I would assume there's going to be some assurances that he will sign along to that deal. Yeah. For sure. But like, okay, let's say the cab, but we're hearing that he could possibly play this year and then maybe trade him.

Like, when does Micah come back? Like, why? What makes them come back? Well, I don't know, because I think that was, I think that was the assumption to those, like, you know, all this stuff. Yeah, you hear all this. But, like, if the Cowboys go out and they do end up meeting again and he becomes the highest paid player or highest defensive player in NFL history, like, that's kind of a good way to bury a lot of ill will. But I, from the sounds of it, from what Schaefter's saying, like, there have been no attempts even for them to talk. So, like, I think he's kind of done with them. I think they're maybe kind of done with him

but him more so than anyone else like now if he were to get traded in comes in like well would they even trade this guy to a team in the NFC because like I don't know if you'd be able to stomach play and it be you know the Cowboys being in the playoffs and you got Micah Parsons on the

other side and he ruins like you know so then that comes into and then like you said you're going to have to pay this guy a bunch of money I don't know there's there's so many questions that come with it and I think everyone just assumed like hey this is all bullshit at end of the day, he's going to get a massive deal and he's going to be a cowboy for the rest of his career. But it sounds like that might not be the case. Yeah, and that's why it doesn't make sense

just because, let alone how good he is, but like what he means to the team. I forget if it was you, Debutt or Tony or who said it yesterday, might have been Utah about like him playing hurt at the end of the season too. It's like, hey, that is a big thing, I'm sure, in the locker room. Like I'm assuming, you know, of course he liked Mike McCarthy, but I'm assuming the next shoty in the next defensive staff and everybody, they want to. him there just because of what he means to the other guys in the locker I'm like Trevon Diggs isn't as good as Trevon

Diggs is without Michael Parsons I mean you and Harry Douglas talked about that yesterday you know it's one of those things where if you let this guy leave you will probably regret it for five years because how good he'll be somewhere else and of how it'll affect you know the other

players on your team like I'd be interested to go back and look at like Duron Bland's pick sixes during the season he broke the record and how many Michael Parsons is, he affected it. Yeah, about to get a sack. Like, it's crazy, I'm sure. Well, we're going to get to the bottom of it right here. Let's go to the source right now. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Mr. Adam Schaefter. What's up, Sheffter? What's going on, guys? That was all Ty. Ty. Ty said everything about Micah Parsons. That was the thing.

Okay, so what are you hearing then? Other than what Ty said, what are you hearing about this Michael Parsons situation, Chefty? Well, look, I also want to prefer by saying these things, things always can change and situations often change at the end of August and September. It changed for CD Lamb last year. It changed for Dak Prescott last year. This one doesn't feel that way. It doesn't feel that way today. That doesn't mean it can't change. But the way that it's tracking, it feels more likely that these sides are headed for a divorce today than they would be for a new deal. Now, I don't know that it'll play out that way, but that is what I see when I look at my first of all. Now, I don't know whether that means there will be a trade net or after the

season. I think the most likely scenario would be that he's there this year. His contract expires. They franchise tag him. And then after they franchise tag him, then they have the ability to go and try and trade him. But there's a lot that has to play out here. It's unsettled. And all we is that there are, I think, hurt feelings on both sides. There have been zero contracting negotiations discussions since late March, early April. They haven't come close to a new deal. The players demanded a trade. Like I say, it just feels different than Dak Prescott and C.D. Lamb.

And we'll see if they changed that year in the last two weeks, but that's nothing what feels today. Chefty, the Cowboys knew this was coming, though, right? They knew they've seen what Michael Parsons has done for this team. They knew they're going to have to pay them. Why is there, like, going back to March, you're saying, And how is there not much communication with this? I mean, I think if we just track and follow everything that's been said and done publicly,

you can piece together the pieces of the puzzle and come up with the situation. Jerry and Micah were meeting. Jerry thought he had the framework of a deal done with Micah. Micah did not feel that way. Michael never saw a contract, never saw a piece of paper, nothing was put down on paper. Jerry Jones himself has said this summer, when I bought the Dallas Cowboys for whatever he paid, $13550 million, he did it as he said on a handshake agreement. I think Jerry felt like there was a handshake agreement with Micah when his agent, David Mulgetto, was not involved. Mikea came out after the owner's meetings and said

any deal that gets done will include my agent David Mulgetta. They have not had any talk since then. None. I think the Cowboys were upset that Micah didn't move forward with them. I think Micah wasn't happy that they didn't feel comfortable or try to get the deal done with this agent. in the interim, we've seen Max Crosby get paid. We've seen Miles Garrett get paid. We've seen Danielle Hunter get paid.

We've seen T.J. W. We've seen all these pass rushers get paid at a time where they're not even talking to Micah about a new contract. And then Lika issued a lengthy statement a couple of Fridays ago requesting a trade from the Dallas Cowboys in which he laid out the whole situation that we're talking about here. It's all there. It's all there. Just read it. Okay? So all we're doing is talking about everything that's transferred, interpreting it, and putting it into its proper context today.

In negotiations, things change. All of a sudden, talks restart. AJ, you've been around the league a long time. There have been any number of strained negotiations that all of a sudden got done at the end of August. right before the start of the season. My point is, and I could be wrong, I don't see this one going that way.

I see this one going in a different direction. I see this one today, and it to a divorce, whether that's after the season, whether they franchise them once, twice, whatever it may be. That's where it feels like it's going, and it's up to both sides

to change that narrative and get some talks done and go from there. And we'll see if they could do that. That's great. Yeah, we know money can change a lot if Jerry comes to the table and offers what they're looking for.

But I wanted to pivot quickly. Daniel Jones, just named starter of the Indianapolis Colts. Was this something you expected? The timing? Did you expect Daniel Jones to be named the starter? And, you know, what are your thoughts on it?

Well, I think from the moment Daniel Jones signed with Indianapolis, I thought he had a clear cut advantage. Again, let's follow the money. the Indianapolis cults went out of their way to go sign Daniel Jones they paid him I believe $14 million this season

which is less than a starter but that is way more than a backup and it's more than the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying Aaron Rogers which gives you an idea of how much Indianapolis wanted Daniel Jones sure

okay okay Yeah, Chefty, we might have to get you back. Call you back. Ceydo's going to get you back. We're going to have to call you back there, Chefty. I don't know. I mean, what is it with the Micah situation, though? How does Micah, so all of a sudden he's just going to dress and go practice?

That's what does make sense. Like, what is that? Just because he doesn't want to get fined? He's playing on a one-year deal, too. Yeah. Playing on the fifth-year option. Like, it's just crazy. Like, how does we get done?

It has to get done, right? I mean, you would think, but for Shepty to be saying it's head towards a divorce. Yeah. For Sheffy to be that strong. Yeah, that's pretty huge. And that's what makes no sense, is if that's the plan after the season, like, do you think you're going to win the Super Bowl this year if he plays? Like, why don't you just trade him, why don't you just trade him right now?

And while his value is the highest, because what if he plays this year and gets hurt in week 14, then it's like your return might not be the same as what you would get right now. Like, so yeah, because otherwise, I mean, we know how this goes, especially with the Cowboys. Like, you're telling me this is just going to hang over the team the entire season, and it's not going to be a big deal. and we're never going to talk about it again until he gets traded. Like, no.

Like, this will hang over the team the entire year. It'll be a huge issue. And we've seen that story play out a hundred times before Dallas. Yeah, we have chef. I believe we got you back. I'm sure we got a little better connection there. As far as Mike it goes, like this, does all of a sudden he, let's say they don't work out anything,

he doesn't get traded come week one. He just dresses and he plays or what? Well, that's the other part of this, right? I mean, we have Jerry Jones himself saying that he doesn't know that Micah is going to be playing in week one. Micah still has in practice. He's got back tightness all summer long. Okay?

So there are all these things that are just out there. And until the two sides squash in one way, which they may or may know, that's why I believe it's headed the wrong way. That's interpretation of it. That's based on conversations I've had it. So we'll see. If all of a sudden they can get together and make Mike his back right and get it, and get a deal done, and he's playing, and lives here ever after, then that's great for them.

But it doesn't feel like that's going to be the case. All right, let's say, Chef, that this divorce does happen like you're alluding to. Who are some of the real players out there that are in position to make a real move for Michael, a real aggressive move? I would assume it to take multiple first at this point probably. But what teams do you have in mind, based on the teams you may be spoken about, and what do they think about what's going on in Dallas, but what teams do you have in mind that are real players in this situation for Micah?

Well, Derrish, I would say every team in the league would happen. But I want to be very clear. I don't know that it's going to happen now. I don't think it's going to happen now. I think there's still a lot of X left in this play that have to play out before we get to the spot where Dallas is trading Michael Parsons. Again, could it happen. It could. I don't think that's the likely scenario.

Just like I don't think the two sides coming together for a contract extension is also a likely. scenario. I think to me today, it feels like they're going to kind of put up with each other this year, and then the Cowboys would have the franchise tag, and then they would put the franchise tag on them, and then all of a sudden, next offseason would be the offseason of the Micah Trade. I think that that one, of all the scenarios, feels to be the most logical today. Now, we'll see if something changes. It certainly can. That's part of the day. deal when we're on August 19th. There's still two weeks, but the Cowboys

open their season two weeks from Thursday night. You think there still hasn't practiced yet. So I would say to AJ, as a linebacker, Darius, you tell me, how would you feel about not practicing all summer and how effective

and how much do you think you could play in an opening game where you ever really practiced all summer? I mean, I'd want to get a couple reps in. I'm not going to lie, I want to get my body conditioned a little bit, but, Mike, know is an absolute physical freak he can he can run all day long he can bend and turn the corner like nobody else on the planet and he's super powerful so especially as an outside rusher you could throw that dude i mean even he plays half the snaps he still might get four sacks

and cause two fumbles so we he could do it we saw it with um nick bosa right nick bose and then he kind of started up well and didn't jimar jimar chased in it last year too yeah and he had at a triple crowd it's just not ideal but again let's see what they can get done in the next two weeks, if anything. I don't think they're going to get a contract done. I could be wrong. That's my guess. Has Jerry, have we ever seen, as Jerry ever drafted a guy that at Micah's caliber,

we know the guy is on a different stratosphere than most people? Like, he's an absolute superstar and let that guy walk and not resign him. Have we ever seen Jerry do this before? Well, they're not going to let him walk. They're going to trade him. I'm saying not give him a second deal like that second deal. Well, the only only thing. only other one that I could think of that they traded away. The one player that they traded away,

there was a cornerback Thomas Everett, a defensive back that they traded to the Buccaneers right after his Pro Bowl season. They traded Herschel Walker at midseason at the beginning of Jerry's ownership for obviously a whole of picks that remade the franchise. And if they ever got into a situation where they were, in fact, trading Miko, which again, I just think becomes more and more likely if this offseason continues the way it's gone, then it would be another haul of picks that I would think would be comparable to what the Raiders once got back from the Chicago Bears for Khalil Mack. Okay, go ahead, comment.

Yeah, Schaefter, you kind of broke up after the Danny Dimes question, but going back to that. What was kind of the route to Danny Dimes? Stuyken mentioned, hey, Danny Dimes doesn't have a leash. He's going to be the starter all year. Does that mean AR might be traded? Does that mean, hey, they're still going to give AR a chance next year, whether Danny Dimes, you know, plays well and re-signs or, you know, signs elsewhere? What should we take away from the Stuyken press conference

and Danny Dines being the starter? Yeah, to me, the takeaway was the most significant thing that Shane Stuyken said today was this is not really a trial basis. This is not a short-term experiment. Daniel Jones is the guy that they're planning. to have start the season. Now, that doesn't mean that Daniel Jones is going to play at that level all year, but he's going to be given every opportunity to have an extended run.

And if he plays well and they're winning games, then it's his job for this season. And if he plays well like that, you'd hit the figure that they're going to bring him back again while they continue to look at another quarter-wreck. So it's all there for Daniel Jones, whereas it's not there right now for Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson becomes the backup.

I don't think they're looking to deal them, but maybe there's a team out there that says, hey, we really value Anthony Richardson and we'll give you an offer that you can't pass up. I don't think somebody would do that right now because Anthony Richardson's stock is low. But you never know how teams view a quarterback. There are certainly some teams out there that can use another quarterback,

but my guess would be that Daniel Jones, it's his job. He will be the guy. That's what they want to have. happen. Anthony Richardson will be the backup. And by the way, the cults don't know that Daniel Jones is going to be great all year alone. He may not play up to their expectations in his capabilities. But if he does, he's going to be the guy. If not, they have Anthony Richardson on the bench. And then after the season, they have to make a decision on his 50-year option. And if he's not playing this year, that's a simple decision. I wouldn't

expect that they're going to pick up the fifth-year option. And he'd be backing in the next year. Might be the last year in his contract, or maybe they look to deal him. But there's so much They have to play out. There's so many ways that all these situations can go. We're just trying to give the most accurate assessment of them today on August 19th as they currently stand. Yeah, Shafty, do you see a situation where Danny Dimes does play very well, but then similar to Darnold, like he leaves Indianapolis and then the Colts just go with AR next season? Or do you most likely see Danny Dimes staying in Indy if all goes well?

Well, it seems like we're seeing more and more of these scenarios over time where quarterbacks who were once high picks go on to have some level of success elsewhere. You mentioned Sam Darnall doing that in Minnesota last year and parlaying that into a starting job with the Seattle Seahawks. We saw it with Baker Mayfield, essentially runoff in Cleveland and Carolina, turns it into a starting job in Tampa and thrives. I mean, this is have Alex Smith, my colleague at ESPN, that happened with him. So there's a history, not, now listen, there are plenty of quarterbacks that wash out that it doesn't happen for. But we've seen enough examples to think, okay, Daniel Jones has a chance to shine this year. And I can tell you this, that what was interesting to me going into free agency, when you spoke to some teams about quarterbacks and having them assessed quarterbacks, there were multiple head coaches that I spoke to

who really were interested in Daniel Jones and value Daniel Jones and I was like I was a little surprised I was like wow which one okay well I'm just telling you there was a there was a higher opinion of Daniel Jones in the coaching community than there was in the public so there are enough coaches who believe

that he's capable of playing well and he'll have that opportunity If he plays well, he could turn it to Sam Donald and Baker-Mayfield. If he doesn't, then that'll be it for him in the NFL. Jeffty, let's go to a guy who we've talked about a ton since the Super Bowl when he came on this show, and that is Trey Henderson. Now, we haven't talked to you, though, since it's come out that, you know, they are potentially exploring trade options for Trey Hendrickson.

Do you know what the latest is there? And is that actually something that you think could happen? I don't think it's anything different than really what's happened. all long in the sense that he's asked for a trade. Cincinnati always was going to have to be knocked over with it for that they didn't get in February or March that they are less likely to get in August or September. The Bengals would have to be willing to almost look the other way and say we're going to take 50 cents on the dollar to trade him, which they have never been willing to do. Does that mean a trade can't happen? No. Do I think a trade is likely to happen?

no. They have to figure out a way. Now, what's interesting, and it's going to be going on here with Trey Hendrickson, with Terry McLaren, even with Cam Hayward in Pittsburgh. Sorry, Tone. Whoa, whoa, whoa. These guys are all going to have decisions to make about how they want to handle the season. And every one of them is going to have to decide, okay, we're willing to play. Now, you asked about Trey Hendrickson, and Trey has been very infest. on the record publicly about the fact that he's not going to play this season on his existing contract that's scheduled to pay him $16 million this year. Now, what does that mean?

How is he going to handle? I don't know. Does that mean he retires at the start of the season? I guess it could be. Does that mean his back is going to tighten up or his hamstring's going to be sure and he can't play? I will say this. I do believe Trey Hendrickson is a man of principal and he's been very, outspoken about the fact that he's not going to play for $16 million this year.

Shephti, you co-host, Ty Schmidt has something for you. Yeah, Shephti, do you have any update on Jordan Love? He was back on the practice field today after that thumb surgery on his left hand. And I think he threw it pretty well in seven-on-seven, but they did say that he's going to have very, very limited reps with their practice with Seattle. Is there any concern about whether or not he's going to be 100% good to go for week one? No, that's why they did the surgery Because I think that they expected that he would be able to get back

And they're ramping up slowly This is not anything that's unusual And there's no reason to subject him to anything that is unusual So, hey, it's a case where basically He's on track to be ready to play In the opener against the Detroit Lions And I think that they feel pretty good about that Hey, Chef, before we let you get out of here

You dropped a bum on this last year right before the season started with the Christian McCaffrey news. I know a lot of fantasy football drafts are happening right now. Any other breaking news you have for us that may be under radar as far as fantasy drafts go? Well, Darius, I'm happy to share all of that as soon as I conduct my two drafts. Oh, you said. You don't. You don't know, should expect something.

No, no. Here's what I would say. You know, we got a couple of guys out there with soft tissue injuries, like, Justin Jefferson and Devon A. Chan, and these guys are unbelievable players. I learned last year, you know, with Christian McCaffrey, that to me, as great as some of these players are, and they're awesome. I think their fantasy value. You have to factor, if there's a soft tissue injury, I think you've got to think twice about taking a guy in the early part of the season. Because those, I think we learned that last year.

But fantasy like that, like little things. You know, Brian Robinson getting traded all of a sudden, all of a sudden Bill Kroski Merritt, his value goes up. I mean, this happens all the time. Jalen McMillan, the Buccaneers' wide receiver. Sounds like he's going to be on IR to start the year, which means, okay, that's going to be more opportunities for Mike Evans and a mecca abuca right away. So there's always fallout in all of these situations.

And there will be again. So that's the situation. All right, Chefty, appreciate you, man. We know you're running all over the place. Thank you again. I'm sure you'll be back on the show very shortly. But ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schaefter. Yeah, Sheffey.

So what surprised you there? So he's saying the Michael Parsons situation is still. Divorce. I don't get it. How would he play this year? That's what I'm saying. If it's going to be a divorce, I just see it happening before he takes a snap this year. Would he, yeah.

Something has to shake. If Shepty's saying he might play on his current deal, I don't see that happen. Would he just have a hold in during the season if they don't train him? He loves football. He set out the COVID year before the drive him, Jamar, Van Ney. Would it make sense for him to play at all. Like what would do it now? We know he can't stay in no business.

But Willie. And then you wouldn't get like an accrued season, would you? How's that? I think that is this. He's due to make 24 this year. Yeah, Logan Mankins, the teammate, do it, like almost. Did Logan Mankins really do that? Oh, yeah, I want to say like maybe eight.

Bro, Logan Mankins, first of all, that's a name people need to know more of. That dude was awesome. He's the O-Lyman of, he's what you want in an O-Lyman right now. Yeah, he's like a fan favorite for New England Patriots fans, like growing, yeah. He set out games, he set out games. He's a scary human player games. I'm pretty sure he did, and that's why he ended up getting traded to Tampa. But when it comes to, like, Patriots fans who, like, when you look back at, you know, the dynasty players that you wish won a Super Bowl.

Randy Moss and Logan Mankins are at the top of... Logan didn't get one? They're at the top of everybody's list. Logan Mankins got drafted, I believe, in 2006, and then he got traded in 2013. Yeah, he won the first eight games in 2010. Yeah, yeah. And they won the Super Bowl in 2014 in 2005.

So the year before he got there and the year after he left. So he lost that second one, 2011. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he lost the undefeated one, too, I thought. Oh, I thought. but I forget what year he was a monster he was so good yeah guys like I mean he played a whole year with a torn knee I remember I remember that being yeah yeah yeah whole year Bill had to love him oh yeah I mean he's a guy that every head

coach would love and he probably loved that he sat out but he was probably like too bad you know I don't know I appreciate what you're doing here we're gonna have to move on yeah man speaking of one great guy to another we have another one wait on the line we will not make weight any longer ladies and gentlemen he doesn't need any introduction please welcome Mr. Marty Smith. Yay, Marty! I see you, Marty, with the sweet Joe Burr. Gentlemen, I hope you're well.

I hope you're festive. You're always festive. I don't even need to ask that question. I hope y'all boys are good. Thanks for having me. Yeah, we are doing. We're doing well, Marty. We appreciate you, you know, asking about us.

How's your life going right now? What's going on now with football right on the cusp of everything? Any news you have that we don't know about? Since you're in the big chair, I wanted to make sure that that was there. That looks good. Got a lot of stickers on there. I see you. Got a lot of buckeye stickers.

I played really well on special teams. Hey, we need wedge busters. Yeah, man, I'm, I am at a fever pitch for college football to get here. I've been watching every NFL preseason game, which I've never done. I don't think in my life. But so many of these young men playing the game now at the highest level, I had the blessing of building relationships with while they were playing college football. And so I'm so invested in their success.

And so it's fun to see. and I just can't wait to kick it off, man. Let's strap up and get it. Yeah, I know. When you build relationship with these guys when they're in college, I wonder, can you tell some of the guys that, I mean, I guess it's hard to tell who's going to make it, but could you tell some college guys

that maybe aren't going to make it at the next level? Have you ever been like, man, I don't know about that guy. He may be a great college player, but I don't know if that translates to the NFL. I think there were probably some guys that proved me wrong. But honestly, when you're, at the University of Alabama and Ohio State and Texas and LSU and Clemson all the time, you're looking at the premier talents in the game and not just premier talents in the game,

but they have to have a self-accountability and a coachability and the ability to listen and develop in order to stay there. And so most of those guys are going to have the opportunity based on the context that they're in, to be great. And like I remember when Joe Burrow was at Ohio State. And I remember when he was battling for the starting job against Dwayne Haskins. And I remember thinking that guy's going to win because he's such a dog. And then Dwayne, of course, he won the job, wound up throwing for 50 touchdowns, was a Heisman finalist, absolutely the right choice by Urban Meyer and his group.

And then, Oh, am I breaking up a little bit? No, you're good. Okay, good, good, good. So then Joe goes to LSU, and I told everybody, I said, I promise you this guy's going to be different. I promise you this is going to be a guy who comes in. He's going to be a little bristly at first. He's a different kind of cat to get to know.

But once they see him between the lines, once they see him in the wait room, once they watch him lead, they're going to see a different kind of dude. And then, in my estimation, maybe produced the greatest season in the history of college football with that 2019 group that just had pros everywhere with Jamar and with JJ and with Clyde, Edwards O'Lear, on and on and on, right? But I just kind of knew it with him. And so that kind of came out of nowhere for some people, but I feel like I kind of had that all the way back at Ohio State. Nice. Well, I would imagine, Marty, you can evaluate talent. You've been around enough guys.

You've gotten to know them. You know what it takes, I guess, on and off the field to get it done, especially at the next level. But stay in the SEC. Todd Schmidt's got a question for you. Yeah, Marty, last year we really didn't have too many coaching changes in college football as a whole. But when you look at the SEC this year, obviously, you know, John Gruden mentioned when he was at Georgia, like, hey, I'd love to be back on the sidelines,

particularly in an SEC program. When you look around the SEC, whether it's Arkansas or Auburn, even, you know, Florida, I know Billy Napier kind of garnered some goodwill back with the way they finished the season. But do you expect us to see multiple new head coaches in the SEC next year based on kind of what you're forecasting for how teams do this year, particularly a guy like John Gruden? This is the first time and a long time. We have 16 head coaches that were there last year, too, in the Southeastern Conference. Now, Billy, I fought for Billy.

I think that he's a phenomenal football coach He had to turn a culture Which is really hard to do And it took a little time And then he got a guy behind center and DJ Lagway That is an incredibly gifted young man A very composed young man I had the opportunity to interview him

With McGee at SEC Media Days And we were very impressed with him Billy's got it humming But again they have the hardest schedule in the country So that's another part of this league that makes it difficult is there's just not a week off. There's just not any week

off where you can rest. When Vanderbilt's beaten Alabama last year, you know that scene in Christmas vacation where Clark lights up the house with the Christmas lights and he's going down the line of the family and saying, isn't it beautiful, isn't it beautiful?

He gets a cousin Eddie, and Eddie goes, you surprised, Clark? And Clark goes, if I woke up this morning with my head's on to the carpet, wouldn't be as surprise as I am right now. Well, that's Vanderbilt beating Alabama last year. But Clark Lee has even built a program on the verge with Diego Pavia behind center.

So it's just really difficult. In terms of people whose jobs might be questionable, certainly you're going to look at Coach Pittman, which pains me to say because he's one of my favorite people in the world, but winning is the business. And he'll be the first to tell you that. He told that to McGee and me last month. at media days and so some people might point to guys like mark stoop's at kentucky's who's had

a tremendous tenure there but can they take that next step look if john gruden came to the cc the time space continue might just fold in on itself because it would be just another incredible mind incredibly passionate guy that would be great for the league i don't know if you guys have ever spent time around him but that damn guy is intense as all hell all the time and I love being around it. He loves ball, man. I love when someone he loves, whatever they're passionate about. John Gruden's clearly passionate about football.

He loves it. Another guy's very passionate. Dary's Bowler, he's got a question. Hell yeah. No, you've been boots on the ground in SEC for a long, long time. A couple days ago, maybe yesterday, SEC and Auburn great. Cam Newton's jersey was going to get retired. It got announced he'll go up in the rafters.

Any memory of Cam Newton in that unbelievable run he had at Auburn. And then is there a team this year? that can maybe go on the magical run like that. Well, Darius, first of all, the camback, you know, when he put that entire team on his shoulders and came back against Alabama in the Iron Bowl, that's really the stamp of what was an incredible season at Auburn. And some people may forget he played one year there.

And he only did every damn thing that you can do. This Jersey retirement, this number retirement is a long time coming. All the guy did was win the Heisman, win a national championship, do every single thing you can do individually and put his entire team on his shoulders every single Saturday. That guy was, he's an alien. And I've had the opportunity to be around him some because I live in Charlotte. And he, of course, was the MVP of the league here.

And he did a lot for the community that people don't know about. Oh, yeah. And I've always appreciated that about Cam. Anytime I'm around him, he's so cool and so gracious with his time. And just as a quick story, a friend of mine had a son that was battling cancer and ultimately lost that battle with cancer. And they had a Halloween celebration for him earlier in October than Halloween actually fell. And this young lady went to Auburn, lifelong Auburn fanatic. and it got to Cam

that this young man who was battling cancer was one of his biggest fans and Cam showed up. That's awesome. That's been a special. So those are things, man. Those are things that are

not championed enough that so many athletes are doing. And for a guy like Cam that can be polarizing to a lot of people, I can tell you that my personal experience and I've seen what he's done here in Charlotte, congrats to him, man.

Grasse the Camman. Unbelievable player. Yeah, it's cool hearing the off the field stuff like that. Tone Diggs, you got something for Marty? Yeah, I do. We're going to stick down in Auburn, down on the plains. Hugh Freeze came out and said he may play all three quarterbacks against Baylor in week one. And I think that kind of caught people off guard because they bring in Jackson Arnold, who's the five-star freshman out of Oklahoma, who they bring in. And it kind of threw people off. I know they have a very highly touted freshman who they.

They just brought in and the kid who started out of Stanford last year. But I think everyone thought Jackson was going to be the starter. What is your sense of the situation down there with Hugh Freeze? Is it a situation? Because I've heard practice hasn't gone incredibly great for that first team offense. What are you reading about the Auburn quarterback situation? Because it's one of the only quarterbacks we have left to hear about. Yeah, it tells you they're really searching.

And Coach Freeze has a very specific kind of guy he wants behind center. he told us at SEC media days when McGee and I sat down with him that he looked at Jackson Arnold as a guy that has incredible talent and we know that I mean he was a 50 star coming out of high school starts at Oklahoma it did not go in any way shape or form like all of us expected it would at Oklahoma Jackson looked confused a lot when he was behind center in Norman he told us takes a fresh start goes over to the planes

and we all just made the assumption, especially by the fact that he was one of the three players for Auburn that was at Media Day speaking on behalf of the program that it was a foregone conclusion that he would be the guy. It just tells you that he's still trying to grasp what Coach Freeze wants to do and these other guys might be doing as good a job. Going into a first game like that with three guys that are going to see action, not good, not good at all for Coach Freeze in a season where he knows,

that there is so much pressure to win. I mean, it's just the way it is, it's the job. And so they better get that tightened up in a hurry, man. How do you figure three of them out? Like, you hope two of them play bad? What plays great? How do you figure that out? I don't know because I don't,

AJ, you've been around the game your whole life and have forgotten more about football and I'll ever know. I've never heard of that. It just seems like a tough, it's already tough enough when there's two of the guys, but if you're going to play three and say, all right, hey, who's going to separate themselves

out of this group. Yeah, I mean, it's, I guess, yeah, crazier things have happened. I don't know. Can't find a rhythm, man. A quarterback's a position, too, where it's like, yeah, I don't know. I just like when the rest of the team knows

who's in command, who is in charge, who. Well, and that player knows. Yeah. And that player knows, you know, to Darius's point about rhythm, there's also self-confidence. The quarterback superpower is self-confidence. And if you're looking over your shoulder,

you don't have that at least not to the degree internally that is required to know the play be able to read what the defense is doing and rip. There's going to be just maybe a little bit of hesitation in there and you just can't have hesitation. There was a practice clip

where Jackson Arnold, they were in the red zone and I think it was just, it was like two on two. It was just a nickel in the corner outside and he didn't throw the ball. So yeah, there's definitely some confidence stuff going on. And Coach Freeze is obviously frustrated, too, guys. If you've seen any of the footage from him getting pissed off and, you know,

throwing his visor and that's a guy. You got, like, you've got to remember, like, Coach Freeze has won everywhere he's been. He's a real good ball coach. And so to get another lease on the SEC as he has at a program, pardon me, a tradition-rich program like Auburn and be that close to beating Nick Sabin again with Grave-Digger two years. years ago. That's the kind of loss. That loss sticks with you.

It sticks with the program. It's like Temple of Doom when that warlord dude tears that guy's heart out and shows it to him. Exactly. Exactly. That being said, John, man, you have something for money? Yeah, Marty, speaking of looking over his shoulder, hopefully

CJ Carr isn't doing that at Notre Dame. He was finally named the starter after a pretty hefty battle. I personally feel as I've been hearing about CJ Carr from Irish fans for the past five years. so there's a little bit of a surprise that it was even up for debate that he was going to be the starting quarterback. What should we expect out of him in Notre Dame?

And do you worry about him, you know, thinking that Kenny's behind him and that he might get a shot? Or do you think C.J. Carr gets kind of the Danny Jones treatment and ends up being the QB for the entire season? Yeah. What Marcus Freeman has humming there in South Bend is so impressive because they have built such a fantastic culture they have built such a sustainable excellence that that decision was made for a reason and that's because that young man was running that offense the best and he has a lot of talent around him a lot of talent he's got a houseman candidate lining up behind him he's got a great line in front of him and so i'm not i have no worry about that at all and and in fact what they did last year to me was such an

incredible statement because to beat the teams that they beat to get to the national championship I just think that they are just getting started I really I think that they last year was a statement but I just think this is such a sustainable thing that Marcus has built he loves to be there and I think that they have the opportunity to take another step now will they win the national championship they're not my pick but I think they're going to be in that conversation, for sure. Yeah, you would think with Marcus there, they'll be in that conversation for a long time to come,

a long time down the road. But I want to quick pivot before we let you go there, Marty, what do you think of Scotty's Chef? We're obviously chipping in on 17, getting another big victory. What are your thoughts on his dominance right now in the PGA tour? I'll try to be succinct because we're running out of time, but there's not enough superlatives.

And that's not just what he's doing on the golf court. You know, you look at that chip right there that you guys are showing on 17 last weekend. That wasn't by happenstance. He practiced that exact shot with that exact pin placement during his practice rounds and what he expected to be the putt following. He didn't need that put. But that's the kind of thing that just rips Bobby McIntyre so loud. Yeah.

And this, what Scottie is doing is incredible. and it's not just the golf excellence. It's the man that he is. It's the way he's doing it. I don't remember another athlete in any other sport that does this in a way that it's not the most forthright thing in his entire life. Scotty is playing golf because he loves to work at golf and it's his gift from God. But it is not Scotty's birth. It's not Scotty's number one light in his life.

And I want to read you guys something going all the way back to April 9th, 2022. This is the night before he won the Masters the first time. And I interviewed him that evening on Saturday night for Sports Center and for the Masters podcast, Four Please Now Driving. And I asked him to what degree have you allowed yourself to consider the emotion of that green jacket sliding across your shoulders tomorrow? afternoon. And this is what he said verbatim. And I have a little note card. This is what he said. If I win this golf tournament, it will change my life on the golf course. But it won't

change my personal life at home. Winning the golf tournament isn't going to satisfy my soul or my heart. I know that going in so I'm able to play freely, knowing that the rest really isn't up to me. I'm just going to go do my best. Now, now you think about, that how many athletes period but especially the elite of the elite historically can genuinely look in the mirror and look at their beautiful wife and son with that authentic energy of you are first that is that is different and i admire it to a degree that is incapable of being properly stated well said marty we admire you marty Just to let you know, everybody here in the Thunder Dome, Pat, and his travels.

I love you guys. Love you, Marty. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Marty Smith. Yeah, thank you, Marty. Love you, Marty. This isn't just another ESPN fantasy football season. It's your shot at greatness.

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Not even a question. It's not even a debate. I think people understand, like, okay, yeah, this guy loves golf, but also he's just better than him. It's not his identity, though. That's what's cool. Like, it's not, he's like, I play golf. I'm a golfer, but it's not who I am. That's what he basically, I feel like he's saying.

But you play golf, it's not your identity. You probably want it to be your identity now, though, right? It is who I am. I love my kids. I love my family too. You scratch golfers yet? No, hell no. I'm shooting love anywhere from about 80.

I'd say 84 to 91. You've probably shot 75, though. No, I haven't broke 80 yet, actually. My lowest score has been 82. Well, you're actually probably putting everything out. I put everything out. I don't count of score. Is it?

Have you ever played golf with anybody else? They don't put anything under 10 feet, I feel like. A lot of guys. A lot, yeah, a lot of. Well, they're not playing golf. That's good for me. I'm like, all right, not if we're gambling. It's not, like, you're lucky we're not gambling on this.

I'm not putting out of a triple bogey. Or, you know, but, you know, I'll take a, get me on that. But if I'm, you know, birdie, par, bogey, like, I'm putting up, sure. That chip that Scottie had on 17, though, like, that is another one that's going to stick in every other golfer's brain. You know if Scotty is lurking anywhere. And Tiger had this, obviously, huge effect back the day. But now that just is another thing that gives Scottie to where before the round even starts, Scotty already has them. Scotty already is, like, you're already ahead on these guys because they know, like, this guy will make magic happen.

I don't know how you beat him right now. What did you say? How did they start the last round? Bobby Mac. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean what? Bobby Mac was like four up. And then he bogeys three of his first four holes.

And Scotty birdies three of his first four holes. And guess what? Scott, he's your new leader. It's just like, I don't know if there's been a guy since Tiger where with his C game, he could go out and win a tournament. And if he has his A game, like, he's winning by multiple strokes. So it's just like, I don't know. You have to be better than perfect because we were talking about it.

you know, like Bobby Mac was unbelievable all week. I mean, I can't remember, what was it, Friday. He birdies six of his, you know, his last six holes. How many 30s he had through the first three rounds compared to how money you had in the crowd? Yeah, exactly. Like, you watch him play. It's like, okay, this guy's destined to win this week.

Like, you, you, if you're playing this good, it doesn't matter how good anyone else is playing, but then Scotty just has the ability. And I think guys now, too, it's getting to the point. Maybe, I mean, definitely not anywhere near what it was like with Tiger. but like on Sunday when it was close and a guy had to play with Tiger in that final group like those guys would crumble like they would feel that pressure way more than you know being solo leader or anything like that and it feels like it's that way with Scotty now too yeah they released after he won like the weeks that he still needs to tie Tiger for the most consecutive weeks at number

one and yeah it's Halloween three years yeah Halloween yeah that is I mean yeah he can He could, right now, I'd probably bet on him doing it. I got to, I got a question with the FedEx championship points and how it is, because we just saw what happened and lived with, you know, Waco winning five events, Rahm, not, and him winning the championship. In what scenario could Scotty, you know, not win it? So, we saw Rory, they changed it, though.

So last year, he used to get a lead head in, right? So last year, Scotty would have been first, obviously, coming in in points. so he would have started 10 under I believe this final tournament And the closest would have been what? I think seven or eight under So about three shot lead over the next closest Correct correct

This year they changed it It's just a flat out tournament Like he gets no advantage So I think it's very stupid So he doesn't have to win this last one To win the money right He comes in four Like he's still winning

I think he would have to like withdraw to not win Yeah shot in the head or something No it's my understanding No I did a lot of research on this Because I've been very confused by it anyone can come in first in this tournament championship, and they can win the, I believe, the $20 million. And I don't know how or why they changed this way.

Unless we're wrong, I researched like four different places, and it said whoever gets the first place gets the $20 million. The points don't matter. The points just get you into the tournament. Exactly. You just got to get top 30 and you have a chance. I hope we're wrong. I'm praying we're wrong because I thought that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Did Roy's just skipped the first. He did. He did. He didn't happen. It took a bye week. Yeah, he didn't play in Memphis. Because he had enough points that he didn't have to. Exactly.

Does he get money for coming in first at the end of the regular season? Because if he does then, then it would make sense where it's like, hey, winner. No, no, I'm asking. I don't know. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm asking. He won 10 mil for that term. Didn't he?

Yeah, the winner of this one makes 20, I think. Yeah, now the big, if you're the FedEx Cup champion, it's 20 to 25, I think. That's what it was, yeah. Yeah, so I was wondering if it because, like, he doesn't get any advantage for having on those points. Like, does he get some sort of. no there's not like a regular season that's what this is essentially and then they need to rebrand it then and stop calling it like the playoffs and everything because it's like this guy's your champion but at the same time if scott's going in with a five-shot lead over people it's kind

of weird too that was a little Mickey Mouse it was like it was Mickey Mouse but at least it gives you an advantage for having the kind of year that he had you can't be the 30th guy and have the exact same advantage to win 20 million dollars Scotty Sheffler right now exactly that's why there's no way we can be right if you want to think about it this way, though. Technically, the, what, 16th team that gets in the NFL playoffs does have the exact same chance to win the Super Bowl at the number one 14 and 13.

They got to go to road. They got to buy, though. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Scotty could have taken three weeks off and had buys. And they showed up for this one? Yeah, good of. It's even more impressive how Scotty is dominating now with, like,

he knows, like, he's the only one that knows how hard is to win a golf tournament. He's like, okay, I know I make it look easy, but this is really, really, really tough. Like, every week to continue to play four, four days, like, hey, and to still stay on top and to still dominate, like, in that moment, like, we take it for greater, I think. Yeah, he's doing pro-ams, too. Yeah, of course. It's not like he's just going Thursday to Sunday, which should be.

Oh, he's showing up Monday. Yeah, he's probably there Monday, yeah. But the fact that, like, all that is to where he's at that point where it's a tiger level almost where, hey, if Scotty's in the field, you can bet on the field, you can bet on Scotty. Most people are taking Scotty. That's a lot. Scottie knows that. The fact that he knows that and he's still dominated this level, I don't want to

take it for granted because he's got to know like, hey, man. If I have one-off tournament, everyone's going to think I'm done for life. He doesn't. Imagine if he finishes 50th or he misses a cut someday. He's not going to. I know. That's the thing you say. He's like the most mentally tough dude on the planet. He doesn't. This guy wins every week. And when he plays like

shit, he gets top 10. Like, it's crazy. It's unbelievable. Got thrown in jail and he finished like seven. Got a caddyback, too. Caddyback Ted's got, yeah, Ted had to deal with some family issues. He came back, he's on the back. Like, even Bryson said, like, I played against Scotty in college. He was not this good.

Yeah. So whatever it is, clicked with his swing, mentally. You know, we know golf is all mental. Yeah. Separates those guys. Scotty and John Romney need to go pink slips if Scotty has won the live. Yeah. How much was that?

10 mil. 18. 18 to win their whole championship? Yep. Back-to-back champion. Oh, he won a back-to-back years. Did you watch it all? Of course.

There's an indie tournament. When did the indie tournament happen? It just happened. Nick, Nick, he won. He said he was awesome. Nick, it was sweet, right? In person? It was sweet in person.

So much different than how it is portrayed on TV, and it was a really cool person. How? What do you mean exactly? I don't know. On TV, it just doesn't come across as captivating. Like hockey? Hockey's awesome in person. On TV, it is awesome, but not as great.

Yeah, kind of. It was just a cool atmosphere. It was fun. It was a little more relaxed than PGA events, and it was a good time. okay so um clear this up for us digs i a little bit they um so the the winner of this last tournament doesn't get the 20 whatever anymore they get 10 million for winning this one oh scottie was actually in favor of this because scotty didn't like having the um how they started minus 10 or whatever last year so this year they gave out bonuses based on if you had made if you were where you

were in the top 10 at the beginning end of the season yeah after the bmw stuff like that so they did get money already okay good right okay cool hey we're up against it. I appreciate Daniel Jeremiah, Adam Schaefter, the great Marty Smith was with us. We appreciate you. Tomorrow, I won't be here. I'll be joining remotely. Someone else will be in this. What?

Stick around. See you tomorrow. Nice. Now to end. What a tease. I don't know who. I don't know if we're supposed to say. I don't know anything about it. I didn't say. Why don't you pop that lid off and show us that those beautiful flowing locks of ears? It's not beautiful flowing locks right now. Where is my hair?

Is this the... I got grow up my side. It's coming. I'm just growing my sides out. I, okay, I shaved my head up in here, and then you've got like two. I just want to grow my sides out, and I can have a... You're going to look like Jay J.J. Watt.

Did you see his new beautiful hair? What's his new hair? Was he drinking beers with the... Yeah, he's just been growing. Ice cold one. His hair is sweet. He's got a good flowing flow. When's his first?

What's the first assignment he has? Steelers, actually. Steelers, actually. It's a steeler's, yeah. Oh, great. Honestly, Jade's going to do great. Oh, year, I think. Uh-huh.

James loves ball. That's a good booze. Yeah, I don't have, he's got some curls to him. I don't have those natural nice curls. So what did they do? They're doing like a walk to the stadium? Yeah, that was his first game with, um, with Maylorica. This is his new team?

So Gump, this is the second team? Yeah, they actually beat one of the best teams in Spain, 2-1. It was a massive win. First team, it was the first time that team they beat lost on opening day since like 2000 or something. Yeah, Athletico Madrid is like right behind Barcelona and Real. It was an unbelievable win for his new squad. Were you there, Gump, at this game?

No, I was in Mallorca the night before for Majorca, Barcelona. How was it in Majorca? I heard it was pretty nice. It's beautiful there. I cannot express how good Lamin Amal is live. Oh, my gosh. Every time he gets the ball on his foot, the defender is fighting for his life, man.

He cut in on two guys, put one top shelf, unbelievable atmosphere. Tell him Dibut. We introduced Dibut, or Gump introduced Dibut to Lameenia Mall. We were in a Zibo yesterday after the show I'm, you know, just talking the beautiful game. And I'm like, I have to see this kid, man.

Because I actually saw a headline with him this offseason, which had nothing to do with soccer. I'm like, you know what, I like this guy. I like this. I like this birthday mark. And I don't know. But I had some highlights, just probably like a 10-minute highlight on YouTube of just, you know,

top 50 plays maybe. And I don't know much about soccer, but I play FIFA. This dude is. Is he doing this thing that feed over? Bro. I'm going to highlight it's 17 years old by itself is ridiculous. And he's like he's playing against the best, you know, the best guys in the world in the world. You know what I mean?

He's doing 16, 17, 18 and the shit he was doing. Regardless if you don't know shit about the sport, you could just see him in the shit he's doing and what he's doing to other guys. Unbelievable. So this Saturday, 3 o'clock, I will be tuned in to catch him. I got, I put him on the ass dumps, Sean. ESPN or ESPN Plus, they got the Liga deal. but I'm telling you every time he gets the ball on his foot

like you'll see the other defenders go over because they know they got to help the other guy because they're in hell they know they're going to he's just going to skin him all it's so he's so fast with his feet it's insane man so it's just a matter of time before an MLS squad picks him up yeah there we go yeah tell Columbus to pick him about 20 years I tell you what I saw that operation they got going at Barcelona

that is a beautiful setup they got there Well, you said it was pretty similar to, like, Rial Salt Lake, right? Yeah, just a tad bit, like, just a little bit better. Yeah, I mean, and not to mention, me and your mom grew up, like, a die-hard timbers fit. Yeah, he just, like most do over there. Yeah, it's not as if he just... He loves a song of the logs, yeah. You think?

Yeah, no, he's a... I'm going to check him out. I'll watch this guy's highlights. Maybe on the drive home. Maybe not. No, I'll wait until I get home, of course. It's storming up there. You should watch.

Is it really? Careful, yeah. I know you're not a soccer film, but you should watch. I'm a fan of anyone that's really awesome at something. Yeah, even if they're good. Same. Okay. So, watching soccer dudes in person, even at the TST thing, like, you see the guys that

are really good, like, when they separate themselves, it's like the whole first touch and how they can comb. Yeah. It's being patient with the ball. Like black boots? When they're, yeah, like, watch the dude, yes, and red boots. When watching guys that are huge ones, yeah, you're right. Remember old, old rugs?

Yep. What about the Indianapolis nightmare? Out of, yeah. How dare you? He was a little bit of an idiot. Minneapolis nightmare this year, though. I fear the O-L-L might be past it, brother. No, he's a father now.

He's a little long-in-the-tooth. It happens. We got a few lives who are long-in-the-tooth. How many guys did you guys say we're long-in-the-tooth this past year? I mean, T-S-Too is so many. Grella's tooth was dragging behind the guy. I was doing like a Rocky-4-Ivindrago-type workout for the next 350 days. Yeah, just to prove that he's not long-in-the-tooth again next year.

Yeah, he's going to prove the opposite. He's going to end up coming into, you know, TST, he's going to be all tired. You think? I know. Tear a hamstring like day one. Like guys would come in and tear their hamstring, like the conditioning test. He's going to the best shape of my life. Dude, tears his hamstring is the second gasserie you run.

The worst. That was cool, guys. Just come in healthy, right? I mean, I've learned when you got older and you become, they say be a pro, a lot of those things are preventable. The soft tissue stuff, they definitely are preventable. Especially if you're a guy like me who was a low body fat guy. so we had more higher tendency to, you know, tear a calf or a growing or a hammy or quad or something like that. Hydration was everything.

You had to hydrate around the clock and then, you know, for me, like sleep, actually sleeping changed everything for me because up until I was probably like 27, 28, like I wasn't going to sleep before like 2 o'clock in the morning. I wasn't like running the streets, but I'd be in bed. I'd be playing video games. I'll just be on my phone just doing something until like 2.30 in the morning. And then when I actually started getting like, you know, seven, eight hours of sleep, completely changed everything as far as recovery and like preventing shit for sure. You have to.

Simple. You have to figure out, though. But you've got to think certain things you have to figure out. You got to figure out what works for you. Yeah. It's not because some, that doesn't work for everybody. Didn't everybody do that to you? I'm sure when you first got in the league, like coaches will tell you,

hey, make sure you, you got to do exactly prepare just like this guy did. Whoever the guy is before you or who, I'm like, okay, I'm going to watch him. I'm going to question him. I might, but like, some of the stuff's not going to work for me. probably and some people just go you know they but it works for them they do you know over the top shit but you got 18 hours of the facility yeah yeah yeah i'm at a facility at 430 i leave it seven okay you hate your family i get it like you know you get in you know whatever works you sometimes it's hot tub it's cold tub maybe it's a contrast you get it um size you

some matts chiropractor stretch do you get your routine and you just figure it out and then you know but you do it you know i ask questions i ask some of the some questions and you know You ask the right guy's question. You know there's some guys you don't need to ask. Yeah, I want to watch the guys who are going to figure it out. Even if they're, you know, maybe limping throughout, you know, Monday through Friday, then Sunday, boom. It's like, okay, what the fuck do you? How do you do that?

And it's just they have their process and everybody has their different things. And once you get your schedule and you figure it out, but it's important that it works because everybody's, you know, home life is different. Everybody's body is different. So you really have to figure out what works for you. So that, you know, your body, that's your money maker. You can't be out there. You can't make the club in the tub. You know, that's what we saw.

It's what old has always says, and it's true. I know if I'm a coach, though. I don't, I also at the same, I don't want a dude that comes in as like 22 years old as a rookie or something. I don't need him to have to have a two-hour warm-up every day to do, to get to practice. Legit. He doesn't need to have, like, a, you know, circle jerk session with four people on his staff to get him warmed up. to like there's also like you have to find a way to make it with the team you know there's not just individual you got to be able to warn with the team do this and just all of a sudden go

especially if you're young yeah you got to man I never seen secretary at stretch I'm multiple guys I play with always would say that I'm like yeah you're right valid but I and then as I got older I learned hey I need to stretch a little bit yeah I might need for sure but I don't know tie you don't need to stretch no I'm a fat slob you know come on now I really don't say that We don't play in the league. I don't like you talking negative on yourself, Ty. That's false. You look great, you feel great, hopefully.

Aaron Judge, baseball. How the Yankees doing? I saw you slinging the, what you called the same? You can throw it. Oh, the slinging Sammy Ball. Yeah, that thing is nice. What did you say? Baseball, the Yankees, still doing it?

They are tied with the Red Sox and the Mariners atop the wild card standings right now. They got two games against the Tampa Bay Rays down at their spring training facility, which is the Ray's home field, and then they go back to New York for four games set with Boston. So yeah, it's really heating up. It's really starting to heat up. That's basically going to determine you know, hey, is it worth being

invested in this team for the last month of the season when football season? They don't go and run if they can get rid of Aaron Boone? I was an Aaron Boone fan. Yeah, me too. Tide for him to hit the bricks. Me too. But who'd you bring in? Come on now. Sean Casey.

Any. Is Sean Casey? Is the hamstring okay? Johnstring okay? Yeah, he has that big device that like just like got the seat inside the bears. Yeah, it looks like the bear from Dune. Yeah, exactly. I'll tell you what, I've been,

Savannah Banana's been popping up. They're smart. They know when to play. Like, they've been selling out huge, huge places. They know when. Peyton Hillis just played for the bananas the other night. That guy you wouldn't beat the hole. Yeah.

Peyton, no. I didn't cover Peyton Hillis. Just saved his kids. Nephew and kids. Can you hit a donger, hit a home? No, he grounded out at the first base, but we ground it out. But, yeah, he did.

He did. Of course. And, you know, they're doing the goofy bullshit. You know, it's hard to fucking hit off a guy wearing a cowboy hat on the mound. Look it out. I mean, he should have just trucked that guy. He should have just trucked that guy and then kicked the hump in the face.

What is the rest? No. Watch this, the ump. I keep saying rest. The first, uh, the ninja guy. Oh, yeah. I remember him. That up sucks.

Look at me. The hump behind the plate is a big part of the show. He is. The dancing up, I believe, is what they call him. Oh, yeah. That's not the normal. The normal up behind the plate. No, it's not.

The normal. Was this against, no, let's say fire. Behind the legs, that's part of the legs. Is that the part? Yeah, you're right. The P.A. You're right. Boys.

Yep. How many teams we have now in Savannah land? I want to say like four. Four, yeah. Yeah, you've got the firefighters, the party animals, the bananas, and then. And the tailgators. Those are the firefighters? Oh.

Wait, are the firefighters? I believe so. I don't know. But I believe so. He's skeptical, Tony. I didn't believe so. That'd be pretty weird to name your team, the firefighters and then not have any former firefighters. It's not a stolen valor, right?

It's a stolen valor. Big time. Anyone ever go to a game here in person? Anybody? They were in, they were at Victory Field not too long ago and unfortunately they'll never come back because they're selling out, you know, 100,000. Way bigger stadiums. So, you know, but I think, didn't Mitt maybe went. I'm pretty sure Mitt was out. Yeah. Do you bring his glove? Because you can catch a ball and it's an out. Yeah. If you catch a foul ball. Yeah, you got a black guy. He missed it. Oh, no. Two players on the firefighters are firefighters. Currently?

Yeah. Are the rest of them ex-firefighters? Do you have some kind of firefighting background, I would hope? Maybe I'm just a family. They're like family of family, like Navy Federal. Like, you know. Yeah, with a great family. Like three cousins removed.

Boom. Dad's brother was a fire. Thought about being a firefighter. They're coached by a firefighter. Boom. That's all we need. That's all we need. Who?

Does he have a mustache? Uh, coached by, um, who? What did you say? Yeah, who is coached these squads? I think it's just Dennis Leery. Tennis theory. I don't know. You're my bad.

The Firefighter show. Rescue me. They are coached by Corpus Christi, Texas Firefighter, and USA Baseball, Women's National Player, Valerie Perez. Okay. All right, Val. I want to know who comes up with all, like, the choreographed dances and different things.

Curious George. There's so. Mr. Banana. Curious George. Is that who you're calling? Yeah. That's you're saying Curious George is the, what's his name again? Jesse.

Jesse. Yeah, he's the man in yellow. He's a marketing genius. Yeah. That's why I'm saying him. I just listen to him talking about. He don't, it's not, it's not about making. a profit. They're trying to get a billion fans.

Is that right? He doesn't want to make money. Was he on your brother's podcast? I think he was. I think he was. I bet he was. My brother's been to a few games, I think, actually, now what I think about it. Back when they were the smaller venues, now it's too hard to get a ticket, I think. You're saying before they were mainstream. Yeah, before, like, when they were at the level of the music that Gump listens to. Yeah, Ryan was on him early, I guess. You know how Gump listens to a lot of these bangers, pal that we haven't heard of? And they're like the undergrad. Gump's listened to him.

Six to 12 months before anyone has ever heard of them, right, Gump? Of course, spot on there. That's a compliment to you, Gump. I know. He's out there, find the new stuff for us. I'm in the weeds, brother. Gump does have a Spotify, a couple Spotify playlist where I said, hey, man, can you send me that?

And he has, and it works. It's good. He's going to probably take over that spot. Oh, yeah. Are you good with the ox? Yeah. Yeah, everyone usually loves when I'm on ox. Really?

I don't know if I believe it. Shoot. dude but also you learned how to play yuker yes i did you like you got i got shit me fox i heard you guys won last week fox you guys won you guys won right yeah dbut's playing great right now big way it was 9 to 1 we came back 9 9 so close fox you let's be so they were nervous but fox laid it down he had we didn't even play the last hand because fox had them all yeah it came up came up red and fortunately it just wasn't in the cards but not one come back i'll take that all day that's a moral victory well usually we we just have

legitimate victories so sometimes it's nice to see how the other shoe feels you know yeah i guess you can see they did battle makes you more relatable exactly understand what it's like yeah bring me back down to earth hotel yeah i guess i don't know so do you guys know who's coming here tomorrow uh no it's a toss up for us every day it's a surprise for us that's gonna be cool to watch and burst through the door that's what we do how do you know someone if it might be a her yeah i said someone no you said him just here you said he's sure the music. Yeah, this is kind of messed up. I'll believe you. Class break. I'll be interested

to see which human comes to that door. Or animal or robot. What if it was one of like the robot? I was watching a robot box somebody on the way here. And they said like you better watch. Watching video is while you're driving on the interstate. What the hell's wrong with you? You're watching the highlights.

It's a way back on the truck. I had a driver. I wasn't texting. That's a lot better than texting, right? The driver? Listen, his truck. I've seen it. I've seen it. It's got a nice little perch. Set your phone right up there. It's fine.

Pete Vammel drove me here, yeah. AJ, get off your goddamn shelf phone, okay, and talk to me, for Christ Jake. I've asked you 100 questions, Jen. You're not answering any of them. You know what I do with Pete? We had him on the other day or last week. Whenever we're doing those games,

it was college football, playoff games, which is the best thing ever. Before the game at some point. Oh, yeah. Pete, what do you got me? Pete, hey, for real, like, what do you hear it, buddy? And he would have so many different things. He would hand me a packet usually about stuff.

The packet was gold, and then he would always have something. I can't do his voice at all. But you'd have, like, a couple things that are, like, question marks. Of value that you could possibly use. Yeah, exactly. And it was so good. I love Pete. I love how much info he has.

Let me check on it. I don't have the brain to hold on it. He's so plugged. He is. I talk to this coach. I talk to that guy's parent. I talk to this guy. He transferred, like, he knows it all.

The best is when we're trying to get information from him during the game. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He comes over to tie. Who was the injury left? Dylan Sampson. Yes. Oh,

yeah. I'm sorry. I fucked up. That's not the injury. He kept saying he was fine. We're like, he's not. He's walking to the locker room right now.

Jesus Christ, I fucked up. He is hurt. I'll go figure it out. Best is the best. There's too many people, especially in college football. Oh, yeah.

They move, every player and coach moves around too much. There's like 500 schools. And how do you keep tracking? He does basketball too. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, what,

3, 4X, D1, basketball, so... That's wild to think of it. Who's going to be the best basketball team this year? College basketball. Are you gone again? Who? Iowa.

Oh, okay. The women's are men. Both? The men's. Men's Iowa basketball, are they? I believe it. Dawn of a new era. Is it really?

Good. I can't wait. I don't have a completely new team. Yeah, we definitely don't need to talk about college basketball. Yeah, if you ask me, like, who's the best team is going to be in February? I'll let you know. Will you? Yeah.

I don't think you will. Yeah, I will. No. Where's Bronon's, LeBron's youngest son going again? Arizona. Arizona. When does he start that? He already did it.

I saw the video when he came off to college. He came back and he had a beard, yeah. And LeBron was clowning him. Look at that beard. He grew up, man. How tall was he now? He's lanky as fuck. These dudes are monsters.

I'm pretty sure he's like 6-4, 6'5. At least probably. Because when he was, I mean, when Bronny was in college and Bryce was still in high school, he was already talking about. How tall was Riley Green? 6-4? He looks huge. Yeah, he's a big dude.

He's super Jack, too. Yeah. So he lifts a bunch. You throw the football, damn country, mild. Didn't you play QB? Yeah. Where was that? Jacksonville State.

Jacksonville State. Zito, you know where that is? I'm going to guess Jacksonville. You'd be wrong. Well, it's an Alabama. It is. I know. The only reason I asked that is because I've been wrong.

I've been wrong my whole life until then. It is. You'd assume Florida. You would assume. You would. Speaking of that, I know we're jumping around a little bit before we wrap the sucker up. It's the best. The Jacksonville Jaguars might surprise some people.

Okay. Ty doesn't seem to be... You made the statement, let's hear you. Yeah. Why? I think Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen, I think they might be all right. Mr. Combe? Yeah. Liam's got a chance.

I like Trevor. Obviously, I like what Travis Hunter can do. I don't know how they're going to use them. I don't know what he's going to major. He's going to major and major in receiver or major in DB. He's going to major. I don't think I've heard you say that before you like Trevor Lawrence? Lawrence?

Yeah. Yeah, I do actually. Really? Yeah. There was a before. Before Aaron signed with the Steelers this year, there was an internet rumor for about a day and a half that Trevor Lawrence was getting traded to the Steelers and I was pumped. Okay. That's why.

Trevor Lawrence, I feel like in football circles, has kind of become, well, that guy's making $55 million. So that quarterback has to get a new contract. He hasn't lived up to the hype that he had coming in. He's supposed to be the next one. But right now, just like a couple other quarterbacks, he has the situation, I think, perfect. built around him. You've got a decent offensive line. Runnybacks could be better, but the weapons he'll have on the outside with Ryan Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter out there who would expect to,

I expect him to major in offense early on, probably minor in defense. But you know Trevor's age? Do I know it's age or 24, 25? Yeah, 25 years old. He's only 25 years old. 25 third head coach already. Yeah, third, you know, so I talked about yesterday. He started with learning new systems. I think he's been a late 10 years. But Liam's good, though.

Liam Cohen is a good coach. He's a good play caller. They got good weapons on, they got good pieces on defense. And no one's talking about them either. I like them. They're in an indivision. They can compete in.

And I think we'll find, we should find out, we should find a lot more out about Trevor Lawrence this year. Right now, currently about two days in on Madden, they're the team I use. So you take that for what is worth. You take the Jags?

That they are my football team on Madden. So you don't love how Tank and ETS are running because I heard that come out of your mouth? And, you know, I'll tell you what, Madden, first of all, I think, and I know Madge gets shit on a lot for a long time.

Every year this year, the game is pretty fucking good. It's tough for to run the football. You know, so I minor and run. I made sure the past game spread it out, you know, secure and have some integrity in my pocket. Sure. And find Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas Jr. down the field.

But they are a good football team. And I may be shopping for a new football team this season. How many can do that? I'm not a fan of a lot of decisions what's going on around my four teams right now. I'm having to shuffle that up. Which four of those? You can don't go to for. It's the, in no order.

Okay. Colts, dolphins, eagles, chargers. So you can. What don't you like that the Eagles have been doing? You can, I'm happy with the Eagles. I'm happy with the Eagles. I'm happy with the Chargers too? Love, you know, hardball.

Okay. You know, what's year two? Colts in the Thames. What about the Fins? So, you know, Colts fans, we got. The two teams he should actually. care about he's upset with you guys got me you tell me yeah

that's what I tell you what I know you guys aren't a fan of it but based on my ex mentions today there's a lot of people coming over to my side hey deep I see what you're doing I see I'm picking up what you were putting down because they're signing up for potential misery for the next few months because

of you're a fan of one one program oh yeah so you're saying you need to have multiple teams couples just for the happiness in your life depends I wouldn't say everybody Like if you're a Patriot fan You're Stillers fan

You're a Packers fan Those you know You can trust those organizations Long term So maybe you may go through some tough stretches But they're gonna do things right They'll turn it around There are some other shit out there

You don't want to be miserable For fucking 20 years You don't want to set your kids up For fucking failure Come on be better If you are a real fan You actually care You're right

Probably right Because it's gonna affect you It definitely will affect It definitely will affect You're terrible Yeah but red stuff didn't win in the World Series 1918 until 2004 and when they did it was fucking incredible my freshman in college there's a lot of people that died before 2000

they say it wasn't probably right now we're big fans of the Red Sox that's my guess yeah but you know a couple guys died in 2003 that's how it goes I know Dibut's probably tell you right now it would mean a lot more to him if the Dolphs won a Super Bowl than the Eagles oh hell yeah you know what I mean like you can you can be fans of other team if that's what you want to do I wouldn't do that but you know it doesn't mean jack's shit well i was pretty happy last year for sake one my eagles i want to see what the dolphins do for real you live in south florida yeah is anyone talking yeah people are they optimistic because it doesn't feel real i don't feel a ton of

optimism i would say i would not say optimistic it's been a long time i can win or long do we have the longest playoff win dropped right now 35 yeah 26 years so no we don't have we don't have our cornerback room is bad right now you know we the only thing we can look at

and hold on to is Tua and the weapons is Tyreek all right and yours is kind of breathing down to us yeah I mean we'll be able to blitz the shit out of quarterbacks with our front seven but that's about it on defense you can't blitz without corners never know zero no I do I do know I never know I never

Tell you what, I'll bring zero blitz against Danny Dimes, week one. Let's see how it goes. You get to step back and fade away and throw it up. That's what you're going to do. That's one thing I can tell you I know. You can't blitz. You got to play it safe. I mean, we got Minka.

We got Jack Jones, Assante Samuel in for a visit. Who knows? There's still time to add players. Yeah, his dad, his dad quote tweets. Jack Jones looked really, really good against Amon Ross St. Brown that won't practice. Yeah. Come on now. He's a good locker room guy.

We know what you're. Come on. We see what you're doing. It's one-on-on-once. We're working on things. It's called practice. What? I'm trying to be positive. He's doing good. Ammon Rose from the best players. You see these Rouse Amundraud's running on these guys? I did.

No pass rush? That was nasty. Let's get real. That's like, how do you do 15 moves within like a half a millimeter of a space? I don't know how anyone covers those guys. He's so good. They're so good. I'm excited about Chop.

I like Chop. Yeah, I think he comes in healthy and be a guy. Tarek, he could have a balance back. year. Seems like Tua is taking a little more control, a little more command. Big year for it. And, you know, nobody's probably sitting in that building, but outside looking in, it kind of seems like a hot seat year for Mike McDaniel. So, and shit, you would say Chris Greer, too. And so we'll see. We'll see. But am I optimistic? Yeah. Cautiously. I am. I have to be. It's August 19th.

Yeah, which means he's not. But, you know, we've got to say we are. He can read between it a little. Just like Bruce and Abdul Carter all of a sudden he's not good anymore because he got chipped once in the No, he got better, actually. I saw him set that. I did see him set in the edge. That's teach tape right there. The only Jets highlight all year

were about the ass all night. I mean, it's, yeah, like, maybe he didn't see it. Weak-ass chagel. Yeah, he ate that motherfucker like barbecue. Bitch. Yes, I think I'm reading the tweets, yeah.

It's the second. It's the tackle that gets you after that chip. Everyone gets caught in a chip every once in a while. Yeah. Watch him dip and rip around the edge if you want to talk about him. him though. You kidding me? Watch them spin inside. Rush up field, spin back inside. I'm not blocking

everyone. Everyone's going to get caught everyone. I can handle that. It's all right. All right, fellas. I think we're going to wrap this sucker up. I appreciate you guys. All the boys in the back. Thank you guys very much. Obviously, we had what, Daniel Jeremiah, Adam Schepter, Marty Smith. Thank you all for coming. Tomorrow we have great guests as well. A guest, a co-host that you guys will see. Whatever human comes, you know, knocking down that door, you guys will. We'll, Welcome with Open Arms. Can't Wait. I will be back in Ohio joining remotely. Boys, appreciate you, everyone else.

We're going to take a little bit of a break. We'll be back tomorrow with a guest host. Can't wait. A lot of energy, I bet, going to be in here tomorrow. It should be a fun show. We'll see you then. Bye. We come back.

Are we back, Mendo? We're back. Joke. Late April Fool's joke. Put him in here. Put him in here. Talk about being asleep at the wheel. Yeah, put him in here.

I'm so in the moment. I was just so in the moment, guys. Sorry about that. Hey, here we go. Team. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Team.