The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1396 - COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS BACK, Will Compton, North Carolina GM Michael Lombardi, WVU Head Coach Rich Rodriguez, Adam Schefter, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about tonight’s slate of college football games to kick off week 1 of the season, as well as everything happening in the NFL with the season one week away. Joining the progrum to chat about Nebraska football tonight, Micah Parsons, Trey Hendrickson, as well as Bussin’ with the Boys’ new partnership with ESPN, 9 year NFL veteran, co-host of Bussin’ with the Boys, Will Compton. Next, 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM of the Cleveland Browns, current GM of the North Carolina Tar Heels, Michael Lombardi joins the show to chat about how the team is coming together and what he expects Monday night against TCU, and some of the different contractural situations in the NFL. Later, Head Coach of the West Virginia Mountaineers, Rich Rodriguez joins the show to chat about rebuilding the culture at West Virginia, what it takes to obtain a hard edge and how long it takes him to figure out whether or not a player will be a good fit, his coaching style, this upcoming season and much more. Lastly, ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter joins the progrum to chat about the news that the Cowboys are officially open to hearing trade offers for Micah Parsons, and that the Cowboys would like to get this situation resolved one way or another before their  Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

people. And welcome to our Humble the Boat, the Thundernoon, on this hard edge Thursday, August 28th, 2025. This program begins now. Football! It's happening tonight. College football, week one, officially kicks off, and we got a couple big ones. 5.30, this thing starts on ESPN as Boise State takes on USF. And then at 9 o'clock Eastern time, Nebraska takes on Cincinnati, in Kansas City at Arrowhead. Will Travis Kelsey be there? He went to Cincinnati.

He plays at Arrowhead. That's his home. If Travis Kelsey's there, it's... No, I don't make me. We're not getting that far ahead. For college? Let's not get that far. For ball. Come on. For ball. For ball. For Travis, they're engaged.

But not, they are engaged. Have been for a few weeks. Hey, honey, you want to go see a ball game tonight? Why not? Hey, two colleges coming at down. What are you got going on? I assume Arrowhead's going to be electrifying. saw the process of it transferring from the Chief's Home Stadium to the Cincinnati, Nebraska host. And at one point, the paint on the end zone looked as if Nebraska was really getting

sand better. And we should have known that that wasn't the case. It was obviously a process. The stadium's going to look beautiful. And tonight, obviously, college football week one kicks off in a huge way. That'll lead into a massive weekend of college ball. I mean, you're talking massive matchups early. No cupcakes, I believe is how it's being described by Nike. I think I think there is like a little bit of a run there where it's like, hey, now college ball, they're being incentivized to play these big high profile matchups early with the new setup of the college football playoff. There is a strength of record, strength of win, strength of loss, when did you lose type factor that's going to be added back into the conversation of who makes it a college football playoff. So look for a lot of these big teams, these high brands, these high profile operations to be colliding on a much more regular basis, which is great.

for college ball. Now, does it help them financially to be in these big games? Of course. Does it help them as a brand to be spotlighted every single weekend? Of course. But does it help football as a whole? Definitely. We got Texas and Ohio State kicking off at noon on Saturday. Are you not only a rematch at the college football playoffs and final and everything like that, but you're talking about Arch Manning, Heisman favorite, his first official start as the guy. Now I know he played last year, but as the guy that Sark has built this entire offense around, What are his capabilities versus what Quinn Ewer's capabilities were?

Let Sarkeesian's brain kind of operate with that. He's been in the, E, E, no Manning's been doing that in the past. Matt Patricia, defensive coordinator for Ohio State, has now had to prepare for three different Mannings. He was obviously with the Patriots. He took on Peyton. He took on Eli. Now he's got the most athletic one that he's ever seen.

This guy's tall. He moves. He's seemingly built for the moment. How will he in Texas look this year versus how they looked last year. And on the other side, Ohio State's raining champion. Coach Ryan Day's got a bunch of dogs and that horseshoe stadium is going to be electrifying. What a beautiful way to kick off

this beautiful sport that is college ball. And then obviously 9 verse 4, 6 verse 10 in an old school rivalry. You know, the Catholics versus the... The convict. Yeah, it is a documentary. It is. And I've facetined a notable Notre Dameer yesterday

and he was actually watching that documentary getting fired up for the world. Okay, I love it. Caught him mid-watching documentary. Love it. It was just random. Well, it was yesterday, Wednesday. Yeah.

Today's Thursday. Wednesday. Today is Thursday. Tomorrow is Friday. Boom. Tomorrow is in this. And then, and then this. Yeah.

And then, and then. And that. So not that, yeah. Not that many sleeps away. No. From this. Yeah. Which is exciting news.

Yeah. FaceTime. Random Notre Dame fan. A very famous fan. Sure. I think I saw him wearing another school shirt. What? No.

While viewing the dark? Army or Navy? Now, in a commercial. Oh, yeah. I think I saw. A couple longhorns on that shirt? I think I saw that. Okay.

That was weird, wasn't it? Acting. So, hey, hey, acting. You got to do what you got to do? But FaceTime. Shane, yeah, I just, yeah. Yeah. FaceTime, Shane, obviously.

And he's, him and his group are taking over everything, as they should. Actual genius. And whenever you talk about a guy who is massive ball fan and massive Notre Dame fan. I facetined him yesterday. Random answer. Shout out. Answer a very busy person. And I'm like, what are you doing? He's like Catholics versus convicts, dude. It was paused like the meme, you know, where he shows his phone. Yeah, it was literally turning to that. I'm like, you're just watching it. He goes, yeah, get jacked up for this weekend. It's a big one. And then he wanted to break down the entire game. I won't give away what his breakdown was. But the Notre Dame fans

in Faithful, I think, are riding high from last year. And what this modern world is about to be for Notre Dame. They have all the money, okay? They're never going to fall out into a position where they're not keeping up financially with anybody else. The fact that they're an independent operation, they collect more money than anybody else whenever they're successful. And Marcus Freeman is a dog. He is awesome. He's seemingly the perfect coach for this time, this time, this era, and definitely this school is he is a Catholic. I think he has 100 kids. So, I mean, he is like the perfect coach for the perfect time for them. And it's like, it's only just the tip of the iceberg for what this college football season is going to be.

Boy, we are just a couple of sleeps away from that. I know. I cannot wait. Tomorrow, I will be live in Columbus, Ohio, alongside A.J. Hawk. We'll also have Will Howard, Vince Young. I think coach is going to stop by. Okay. What coach?

I don't want to publicly put him on a spot like that, though. One of them. Lou? Put him both on this. Coach Lou will not be there. Okay. I think we've seen it off of Coach. Yeah, I think we can put that one to bed between those two guys.

Was it the other day? buttered that bread all we can. Yeah. And, you know, we understand. Yeah, it was a good run. And we never heard anything for the other side saying don't do it. This is just us personally acknowledging a situation. Sure. He was, he was, uh, Coach Rondeh was really good to us.

Remember, he let us in the building. He did, mm-hmm. Did the entire thing. And also, uh, just chatted with him the other day. What do we, what are we doing? We're cool. I can't wait to get to his campus, though. What they did last year during that playoff run was outrageous.

If they're able to bottle that somehow, new quarterback, a lot of new players, still got Jeremiah Smith, still got Caleb Downs. Okay, so those two best players on the field, offense and defense when they're out there, and they're just only getting better and stronger. Carnal Tate's still there, a wide receiver. He kind of gets lost in the entire conversation. And then who's the tight end I got from Purdue? Max Clare.

Yeah, so nobody saw him at Purdue because Purdue is Purdue. And that's something, but you watch the highlights of this guy, he's seemingly six, five, 6-6 and moves and is built exactly like an NFL tight end. Now he's on Ohio State. So get used to hearing this guy's name, we all think. WVU kid too. Yeah, I think this guy, the running back, C.J. Donaldson, he's a great running back. Would probably

be an All-American if we had to guess. He's amazing at West Virginia when they had all those draft picks on the old line. Yeah, unbelievable. And should have stuck around, you know? Yeah, on a new day. That's true. Yeah, congrats to him, though. He's certainly earned whatever the paycheck is. And quarterback, saying this kid can spin it. So it's

a weekend that's going to be packed with great ball and we're lucky to be a part of it and we're also pumped that it's beginning. It's real football time. Let's go to the talks of the table at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt. We kind of got the two tails little polar wolves on your chest. Is that kind of off-season, regular

season, football season meeting today? Kind of clashing in the middle. That's where you're at. What is the messaging behind it? Honestly, I don't know if there is any messaging today. This is just long-sleeveeat. 50 degrees in the morning. It's amazing as football weather. Long-sleeves being is fantastic. Maybe it is kind of the split, you know, the good and the bad that comes to football, but we're not going to talk about any of the bad, just the good. The amount of Irish Catholics

that have been bopping their baloney about this quarterback for Notre Dame for the past five years, I'm excited for that to finally happen, because I'm sick of hearing about it. I'll be completely honest. Most people in Mass are Notre Dame fans because it's Irish Catholic and college sports, B.C. and all that, they just aren't really relevant in the city itself as a sports team. I can't wait for the Notre Dame game just to see C.J. Carr, hopefully be the guy and maybe Carl Beck. He comes in and the U is still the U, and they're good again. Yeah, Carson Beck got paid a lot of money. We all reported on that and talked about that, and we don't know exactly what the number was. There were some absurd numbers being

talked about, and then there was some other absurd numbers that were just a little bit lower. But obviously, he's earned it, national champ. You can do whatever you want to do. His ending at Georgia didn't seem like there was a lot of people pissed that he ended up going to Miami. I think they understood what the current market is. But what if he's a guy? What if he's a guy down there in Miami? Cam Ward appearing every day, now we haven't seen him play a single down of actual NFL football yet,

but appearing every single day as being a legit leader and a guy that was an igniter for an entire university, an entire program. Will Carson Beck be able to do the same damn thing? And will that project him to be a number one overall pick like it did for Cam Ward? We shall see so many storylines to develop over the next 20 weeks or whatever it is. I mean, there's just so much ball.

I mean, it is seriously the greatest time of year. Like, we talk about how the best weekend is, like, super wildcard weekend and stuff like that. But this is like, it's almost like a Christmas Eve, but Christmas lasts for three months. Yeah, it is good. It is good. It was like before the first day of school. Yeah, boom. I was brushing my teeth this morning.

I was like, oh. Wait a minute. There's a little something hummed. I do smell that. You had your outfit hanging that. You picked out your outfit last night. This morning, actually. Another early morning for me.

Yeah. So, uh, wow, hey, two days in a row. Come on now, go. Two days in a row, two days. I was up late too, working on, on, uh, on my computer. Sure. You know, I was, uh, you do. And I, uh, did it.

I think I did it. But woke up early, picked out the outfit for game day, you know, because we're back into wearing a sport coat. Yeah, that's right. Only time in my life that that happens. Literally the only time of my life that happens. Shout to David Allen. You know, this is the time of year where I remember David Allen's a guy.

He is the dog. And I go into my club. closet and I open it and I just go, what am I? Oh, no, I got nothing. Then I open up a sleeve or something. It's David Allen basically right there. And I'm like, my dude, thank you so much. I'm going to take this from three years ago from David Allen. And I'm going to put this in the ball and I'm going to take it. But yeah, it was like exciting this morning. It really was. There is like an electricity in the air, especially because these games tonight are a big deal. Boise State looking to dance every single year. Nebraska, third year with Matt Rule. Are

they going to be able to go on a run in a conference that's going to get a lot of say in who ends up in a college football playoff. Why not some of these teams that are playing tonight, AP Tone? Yeah, we've talked a lot about the big games, the big three, the top 10 matchups, but like there are so many other games this weekend, especially tonight that that means something like Boise is the odds on and like big favorite to make the college football playoff again out of the group of five. And they got to travel all the way down to Florida. Yes, it feels good here, but I checked, it's still hot in Florida. Like they got

all the way down the USF, a USF team that two years ago almost, you know, that was the game where Sabin couldn't figure out who his quarterback was and USF almost beat Bama. They always have speed, it feels like. We used to play them, Big East. They were in Big East for a little bit. And they were, that was when Levitt was their coach. Yep.

In the news recently. When they were down there, they always had speed, like very, very fast. In our team, we used to be able to just beat everybody. Speed would potentially kind of affect us a little bit on the zone spread shit that we were running or whatever. So they always gave us a tough matchup. We're not the only ones. USF has historically been able to match up with people.

It's just like it doesn't really get talked about much because it's USF. But they can be a problem for it. And they could disrail or derail an entire season for Boise's Day. Yeah, Boise could go from the odds on favorites to make the playoff out of the group of five to you lose USF week one. Like that's a hill you've got to climb the rest of the season. And then Nebraska, like both these games, five and a half, six a half. Those are not like, oh, they're definitely going to win this game. Nebraska loses Descinti week one, like their playoff hopes, which they do.

They all think they're going to make it this year. Like both of these favorites potentially lose tonight on short. on short spreads, like, that just sends the whole thing into chaos already. Yeah, and that's what college football is. It's chaos. It's absolute chaos. Last season was epic. Who's the best? Cannot wait for this one. For all of the negative, and we bring this up a lot because I think it has to,

for all the negative that has kind of surrounded the sport, all the conversation, and the worry. And I understand that there has been a lot of history between this sport and its fans. The e-sport and Dr. Pepper. I mean, Dr. Pepper has literally been sponsored, I think, 88 years alongside college football. But their fans are very loyal. And it's like, my father, my father's father, and my father's father's father, all sat in this seat. We tailgate it this way.

We cheered for these guys. This is how we did it. So any change is something that has that much history and that much pageantry and that much tradition is going to scare the shit out of some people. And some people, when they get scared, just automatically go, I don't like it. And then they start to attack it. Understood, valid, completely. understand where you're coming because everybody's worried that something that they love is going to lose the thing about it that they love so much. But I think what college football has become

has become more electrifying. Like I think it has become more exciting. Just as ball fan, NFL fan, football fan, college football fan. I think the games, the matchups, teams coming out of nowhere, Vanderbilt story last year, insane. Diego Pavilla. How about the moment that they got to have as college, as universe, as a student section? They got to carry a fucking upright all the way down Broadway into a river because their football team won a game. It's like these are magical moments that are being created. And I think that's why college football fans are such big fans of the sport because it can only happen in those type of environments. Those aren't going anywhere. I don't think those are ever going anywhere. And I think the matchups are only going to get

bigger. And I think teams are going to get better. I think all is going well when it comes to the product on the field in my eyes. No, yeah. I mean, I agree. I think you could argue. And it's hard because it was the first year of the playoff. And, you know, like that just added a completely new element, but I think the product on the field last year was as good as it's ever been. We got so many good games week in, week out. And if you can get over the whole, you know, transfer portal stuff and it being kind of hard to get grips on who's where, you know, the first several weeks of the season, it's like, oh, I thought this guy played for, you know, this team, but no, he's at this place this year. Like, there's a lot of that. But when it actually

gets down to like the game itself, I don't think college football has ever been as good as it is right now with as many good players as we have right now. Yeah, you know, every once in a while, when you pay people, they get better. Yes. It's about the kids that have committed on this show. Like, they're professionals already. I would like thank my strength coach.

My dietitian. My nutritionist. My chef. My massage therapist. My technique coach. Why? Obviously, mom and dad. And our Lord and Savior. They do. Yeah, Lord and Savior too. Jesus. Thank you so much for letting me

dip and rip like this. You know, I've been working, but it is, they're professionals since they're teenagers. And obviously, we'll see long-term effects to this. Yeah. You know, child stars and everything like that. Is it because the spotlight? It's because the people they're around or

is it because they're forced to be adults a lot earlier than everybody else. The athletes are kind of having that experience right now. They're being forced to being adults earlier than everybody else. We'll find out what the long-term effects are. But I think what the NFL people are saying is we see much more mature guys coming in a league. These guys already know their shit.

We already know if they're going to be able to work and handle money. We already know how they're going to operate, how their family's going to operate. That used to have to happen in the first couple years in the NFL. Now it's happening in the late high school for the day. They're going to going through money for the first time, which is a whirlwind of emotions and situations

and everything, relationships, how you operate, what you can do, what you can't do. First time I got money, it was just like you feel the weight of the world to want to help everybody

that has helped you. And it's like, all of a sudden then you got a lot of people telling you, well, don't do that. It's like, well, how am I supposed to look at these people in the eye when they know that I can definitely help in the situation and they've certainly helped me how am I supposed so you get caught in these conflicting situations when you become the person who is certainly the most amount of money out of the people that you've been around your entire life

there's a lot of shit that comes alongside of that and a lot of these guys are experiencing it now in high school they're experiencing in college so by the time they get to the NFL all those conflicting emotions and shit that has kind of thrown on your plate out of nowhere is already behind them It's like, I think that's good for quality of game. NFL is going to benefit from this big time. For sure. Scouting, finding out who the right people are, definitely going to win in this. College, though, is going to have to deal. There's going to be more of that shit that's going to have to happen just kind of naturally.

And I'll be excited to see how we kind of weave through that. Yeah, even like when you think about the athletes, you would assume that most people who, you know, might be between a couple sports, like a lot of great NFL players are great NBA players. but with the amount of money that's in the NIL for college football. And there's a bunch in college basketball too, but there's more in college football. Obviously, there's more teams, there's more, you know, high-end programs that can pay you a bunch of money. So you might think like, oh, shoot, you know, college football will continue to get these better athletes because they might lean to the NFL.

Maybe these six, seven guys will put on some weight and be tackled as opposed to, you know. Yeah, but the bad side of it, to your point, like the, what was his name, the quarterback, Mark Morinovich, where his thought, Todd Morinovich, where, you know, there's the 30 for 30 on him. He was born to be an NFL. His dad created him to be an NFL QB. And he was, but then he hated football as soon as he got to the NFL. So on the flip side, I would say, Peyton and Eli were created to be NFL quarterbacks. And all they want to do is give back to the game their entire life.

So you never know. Like humans are so interesting. And this whole getting rich as teenagers in sports thing is awesome. I think for the guys, but what are the joining us now. I would like to see this dude as a teenager could hand a bunch of money and what he would have done. Sure.

Five star. Oh my God. Those teeth would have got fixed so much. Like that. It would have been no problem at all. Ladies and gentlemen, host of Bussing with the Boys, founder of Bussing with the Boys. Also has a dad podcast because he is an

incredibly proud father. Obviously, he got ripped off of year 10, I believe. by the NFL, supposed to be a 10-year NFL vet. Nobody would have expected that whenever he was coming out of Nebraska. Ladies and gentlemen, absolute dog will come to him. How you doing, dude? Pat, thank you for the introduction.

Boys, it's great to be here. It's game day. We made it. Yes, we did. We did. That is the overwhelming sense that we have over here as well. This morning, brushing teeth just fell a little different. Like, we got actual ball here.

Now, I couldn't even imagine, like West Virginia playing tonight. would have an even, I mean, that would be a perfect way to kind of launch this. I assume you're very excited. Year three for Rule, there's a chance here for Nebraska to go on a run. The boys, from what I'm hearing, look good over there. Look good. Pat, this will be, I'm telling you now, boys, I'm telling you, we got a favorable schedule. No matter how you think of the Huskers, this is year three of the rural era, year two for Dylan Rail,

and Dana Holgerson on the sideline full-time. this is going to be the first double-digit win season since Willie C. senior year in 2012. You can book it. You heard it here right now. I'm just letting you know. I can feel it. It's in the air, and it starts the night against Cincinnati. Okay.

It's in Sins, or it's in Arrowhead, obviously. Travis Kelsey going to be there for Sinci. We assume. We're just assuming he's going to be there. That's his house. Now, if he's there, hold the phone. Who else is there? Are you worried about that for Nebraska?

I mean, that feels like there is a piece. potentially an aura coming into Arrowhead that is highly swinging in Cincinnati's favor. Have you thought about that, Will? You know, when Trev, he got engaged. When he got engaged, I texted him, I said, hats off to you, trying to distract the world from this ass whooping that's coming on Thursday night. From what I'm hearing, the misses won't be there. So it won't take over the entire world.

But yes, I am a little nervous about the aura of Travis Kelsey walking in that stadium. But again, this is about the Huskers, this is about the bear test, this is about stopping. I think it scores me, it got a little dual-threat quarterback, and I'm telling you, it's coming tonight. I swear to God, I can just, I feel it, I feel it, I feel it. Matt Ruhl can give all the speeches he wants to give. Taylor Swift walks in there in a Cincinnati shirt. You guys are. Don't care, yeah.

You guys are absolutely cooked. Now, I like Riola. I like eat money. You're running back. I met him at a WWE event. Great Moxie. Feels like the offensive line's going to be good. I'm excited for you guys.

Beefy. Okay, we got good beefy boys out there. Always Nebraska. Shout out. Can we talk about the announcement about you and ESPN today before the boys have their questions for you? Congratulations, man. This is an awesome thing. Like, legit, we are very happy for you guys.

How does this come about and what does this mean? Dude, it's surreal, bro. Like, it still doesn't, like, uh, Pat, I remember talking to you, like, we FaceTime when Bustin with the voice kicked off and I, you were giving me a lot of game on the podcast world and how to operate. And at that point, I want to say, I was telling you like, hey, I think we're going to go through the summer with pods and then stop during football season because you get really nervous about how the teams might feel being a distraction. I was still a free agent to a, you know, is this going to keep me out of playing in the NFL?

And I just remember you telling me you have to treat your audience like it is your best. friend and if you're going to show up for them once a week you show up for them once a week my advice recommendation to you young willy see would be if you're going to do it once a week then do it once a week throughout the entire year or as long as you guys can and you're telling me game on the merchandise and everything else and just to think back to that moment and get all the way here to now we are on the team with you at ESPN like this is a true story I pissed the bed until I was 14 years old and before I fell asleep every night before I violently wet the bed, I would fall asleep to ESPN.

ESPN, nostalgically for everybody, ESPN is also the previous channel when you're rocking Skinimax and you need that fallback in case your mom and dad walk in. It was SportsCenter and top 10. And now to get to appear on it and to be part of the brand, it is, we're grateful, man. We are truly fired up. Well, we're proud of you, both for stopping the pissing-in-the-bed problem.

Once you get to 14, you think that's probably a lifetime thing. Yeah, yeah. You know, I think that is probably a life. time moment and also for all the hard work that you guys have put in you guys have grinded over there mad respect especially as ex players trying to represent for football on a platform that you had to create you should be proud of yourself man every time i watched you guys i knew you were special and obviously you don't have to be a genius uh to be able to see what's good and what isn't good but it was immediate upon watching you and taylor is like this is a good show you have the juice

taylor is such a good smart ass and super handsome and uh yeah i think he's got a little bit of a thing with blackjack and gambling you guys maybe check on them but hey that is I follow along from outside looking in hey I do the same thing I just say are you sure and he's like I'm ready to go to war I'm like listen you got to do your thing that's a lot of money that's a lot of Dana is a dog he's been kicked out of a lot of places you got title with everything like that but yeah I don't know is your brain okay I don't know the lock to dena but nonetheless you guys have worked your asses off we're proud of you and we're pumped you're going to be representing on ESPN good luck out there we're proud of you will

Thank you, bro. Thank you, boys. No problem. All right, we got some questions for you. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Will, you talked about stopping Soresby tonight, and those black shirts on that Nebraska defense have basically been carrying the team the last two years. And I got no issues with the offense with Holgerson and Raola, year two.

I think they're going to be much better. But, you know, you lost your defense coordinator, Tony Whitey goes down to Florida State. You lose a couple polar bears off that defensive line. Are the black shirts going to be the black shirts this year? Tone, that's my biggest, you know, that's a big. You know, that's what I'm most excited to see tonight is how the defense is going to perform because you're right, like losing Tony White, not just Tony White too, but a couple other guys on the defense that have Terrence Knight and T-night.

He went with them down in the Florida State. That was a massive loss because they have been a top 25 defense the last couple of years. But there's a lot of optimism talking about rotations with these young cats, guys being able to play all across the line of scrimmage. I believe the linebacker's name is Javin Smith, 6-5, 230 pounds. I'm excited to see him run around. We do have a veteran group on the back end in the secondary, but that is kind of my, like, I'm not worried about the offense either.

I'm just excited to see who's going to step up on the black shirt side because everybody's wondering what are they going to be like when you said it, those polar bears in the middle. So that's what I'm looking for. They got any young Willie Cs out there? They got any some white trash kids flying around, throwing their heads in the... You know they do. You know they do, but, you know, who's going to step up and be that?

I'm out here, congratulations. You got John Bullock down, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, undrafted cat walk on to the University of Nebraska, earning his stripes as a senior making a camp with the bucks, and he's on the 53-man roster with Levanté Davis. That's what we like. That's what we like. Yes, undrafted

linebacker U is what Nebraska is. But we'll see. We'll see. I'm excited. That's not good. Hold on. That's not. We can't be on a shirt. Not good. Put it on a shirt. It's about overachieving. Undrafted L.B.U.

That's sweet. Nebraska. That's awesome. Black shirt's great nickname, though, for an entire crew, you know? And it's like seemingly always good. And then that being the question mark, I think is good news if you're a Nebraska fan. Now, let's move to the NFL. Obviously, you should have had a double-digit year career, and it's a damn shame. It's a damn shame that all that happened.

Your last year was really your best, I think. You know, you looked your fastest. It's so funny. You looked your fastest. So I think you were right. I think maybe 11, 12 would have been in there, but you found your true calling. Ty, a question for you.

Yeah, Will, now that you are on ESPN, I'm excited to get your take on the Micah Parson situation. This would be your first documented one, I believe. If you're Micah and you're hearing, hey, the Packers, they want to trade for you, they got 45 per year for, you know, maybe even 50 per year. Who's he hearing that from? Just you or have the Packers said this?

Listen, it's out there. Okay. It's not just me. what is your take on that whole situation? Not like Shottie thinks he's maybe going to play, but he doesn't know because he hasn't practiced or done anything all of training camp. Jerry is kind of hesitant to talk to other teams.

Like, how do you think that whole situation is going to play out? Brother, listen, we just said we were undrafted linebacker. You, this is a position and a player where I have never been, I've never gotten to experience that world. I'm sitting on my couch throughout the week watching this America's team documentary and just seeing everything that Jerry Jones goes through, the pride that he has. I feel like he enjoys this game that is happening. You see my man going out there on different podcasts.

He's doing a little press tour, going out there and kind of peacocking and letting the young man of Michael Parsons know they got him for three more years. If I'm Micah, I have no clue. Like, I would have too much anxiety, like sitting on the couch, kind of waiting for the season to unfold, leveraging everything. Am I in shape? Am I not in shape? Can I go?

If I wait too long and then go out there the day of? Like, I'm going to have to prove myself right and everybody else right that what I'm doing is the right thing. And if you fail or if you get injured or if you do anything else that isn't up to that expectation, it's going to be you're proven the Cowboys and everybody else right. I have too much anxiety thinking about it. I have no clue what's going to happen. I do hope Michael Parsons gets paid because he is an absolute dog for the Dallas Cowboys. But I don't know.

I know Jerry loves this game is what I've gathered from what I've watched. Jerry Jones is in the pocket right now and this is where he wants to be with Micah Parson. And I think he respects Micah. I think he respects what Micah's doing. I think he probably respects him, but he's also, I don't think there's any budging happening. You know, like, the narrative is that the Green Bay Packers are in,

okay, and they will go. And the 45 million thing, Ty said that very confidently yesterday on the show. And then Schneidman came on from the athletic for the Green Bay Packers. He's like, there's an offer on table that is very favorable, basically, or there has been, but Jerry isn't listening. The way Ty Schmidt is turning that is Jerry isn't ready to listen yet. Like there's going to come a time that Jerry's going to listen.

I think they're just going to continue to dance. Micah ends up playing. Is that what you think the final outcome is? I think he ends up playing. I think it, you know, it's like this YouTube and Fox thing going on where, hey, are we going to get the games on Friday? Are they going to not let us watch Baylor, Auburn, on Friday night? And then all of a sudden, somebody's hand gets pushed,

and then like two hours before Ohio State and Texas kicks off, it's going to come to life. I think at some point it's going to come to life. Hey, Ty, I hope it's for the Packers. I think, like, there's a party, too, that's like, is Micah just over the whole thing? And maybe he just wants to get out of that situation because I don't think the Cowboys are going to be that great this year. I don't think they're going to be very good.

What? Why? You don't think Dak's good? You don't like Shottie? You don't think Shottie's a guy? Iber Fluce, D-Coronator, back where he's supposed to be, probably. I think there's just too much going on, as always, around the Cowboys.

I think they got a lot of talent. I like Fluce on the defensive nut. on the defensive side, I don't know how Shottie's going to be as a head coach. And him just being in the circus right now, I just don't know how it plays out, especially with the commanders up north, with the Philadelphia Eagles up north, I think they're going to both be better

than the Cowboys. And the Giants. The Giants. The Giants. The Giants. Forgot. We got to cover all the teams. The Giants have some good pieces that are doing. They're not going to be a bunch of candy asses this year. Yeah. Malik neighbors, he can catch a ball. Yeah, he can't. He can't.

He can't catch a ball. He's unbelievable. Shraig's came on. It was like, Terry McClorn isn't really in Malik neighbor's tier, but he's there. It's like, what the fuck? Who said that? Is that really how you guys feel? I did not know that's how Giants fans feel. It is like Malik neighbors, he's a guy. Like I'm not saying he's not a guy. Terry McLaren was, is, will be. Long time. Yeah. He's done in a guy. That is a guy you're looking for. Happy they got that deal done. Trey Hendrickson, happy he got his deal done too. The boys have been a tex. and tray a little bit. Ah, yeah. The boys,

he got 14 million more dollars in one year, and the boys are like soft. This guy rolled over. That's just because we know that's not a lot of it is. He got 14 million more dollars. You want to know what it really is? It's that it started here on the purpose talking to you. We don't have enough motion.

We've been riding this thing from day one rooting for him, and then he fucked it all up. All we are, all we're saying is, yes, 14 million for this one year is awesome. But he said, that's not what he wanted. He wanted multiple years. That's what he started.

It was a negotiation. He didn't want one year. Folded like a lawn chair. No, he was in there fighting. And they treated him like an asshole for seven months publicly. They did. You know, at some point, these players need to just accept the deal that's on the table. They said that.

They said that. Yeah. But he went back here, golf clothes, shook hands, talked to the press. I want to be here. And accepted the deal on the table. Yeah. No, they opted He got more

They were offering 5 million more I did not hear that As a We He said we knew He said we knew He won the negotiation

A little bit Definitely No he did He was in there And Mike Brown said We knew you It's like the 10th highest paid the end

He was sack Let me say Come here, Trey Why don't you sit Oh sorry well This is a thing That's been happening Off Air a lot

Yeah First time it was brought to Yeah so we just brought that on air You just saw an off air conversation happening on air. The boys fed up with Trey. Hey, Trey, guess what? We'll see you next year, too. Okay. All right.

See, this is what they did. Neil Trey. He got 14 million more dollars in these guys. What is that? He deserves 20. That's what. We agree. I think you're doing this from a position of love. Yeah, exactly. Correct. It always is. But you're attacking them pretty good.

Sometimes, yeah. A little bit. A little bit. Insulting him a little bit. But, you know, it's kind of. got to be done. I'm trying to help him. What do you think about Trey Hendrickson's situation? Well, you think

14 million more bucks for a guy is good news or do you think he definitely deserved more and if he was maybe just a little bit more of an asshole

he might have got accomplished but he just couldn't do it. Yeah. He literally just couldn't do it I think. Again, like Pat, you know it's like this I'm assuming the self-talking

and said this game that's going on. He was playing it well. He was posturing. He's, you know, at OTA, he's training camp, he's talking to the media. throwing it back at the Bengals,

posturing up. And at the end of the day, once they start hurting your pockets a little bit, and you start thinking of not only hurting the pockets, but hurting the team. Like the Bengals, if they have some sort of defense this year, they can be nice.

You got Joe Burrow, who, in my opinion, listen, when he's healthy, he's the best QB in the game. And when you have that potential, you got Steelers that are coming. You've got the Ravens that are built for success always. And when you're just sitting there as a player,

it's like there's a lot of selfish, where it's like you got to do what's best for you. You got to play the game as long as you can play the game, but there's always that team aspect that's just eating at your head, and at some point it's like who's going to break here? And if the boys are saying he broke, he walked in,

he signed the dotted line for $14 million more dollars. And that's a loss, then okay, that's a good loss. That's a good way to lose. That's a good loss. That's a good day to take that particular loss. I appreciate Will Compton, ESPN analyst, founder of Bustin with the boys, says Joe Burrow is best quarterback in NFL

went healthy. That is what you said there. That is going to get out there. You believe that. There's a lot of quarterbacks. I believe Joe Burrow definitely in the, I'm not doing the who's the best game because that's a nightmare for a daily show host, but in the Pantheon would definitely put Joe Burrow up there. He got paid as such, and we all love watching him. You just said outright, though, this is the best guy in the league. Why do you think that? And who is, I guess, second?

Would that be Mahomes, Lamar, Josh? Daniel? It's a great question, Pat. Danny Dines? That's a great question, Pat. I like Joe B just because you hear just everybody talk about this, man, whether it's coordinators, coaches, it's like there's no, you're not really game planning Joe Burrow. You can't game plan Joe Burrow.

I want to say, who is the play that came out? I was like, oh, you can game plan Josh Allen, you can't game plan Joe Burrow. He wasn't like taking a shot at Josh, but he was trying to explain it in the way that's like, you know, when Joe's firing his brain, his mind is just in a different stratosphere. I'm not saying the other boys aren't smart enough to play football, Pat. I'm just saying when Joe Burrow is operating, you see what he does when he has zero defense, got weapons on the outside, O-line that sometimes blocks for him, but if they just,

if they can get in gear, Joey B is slinging the rock better than anybody in the league. Patrick Mahomes, he's the baby goat. Josh Allen, he's an absolute stud. who is the reigning MVP, Lamar Jackson, multiple time MVP. They're all done. Danny Dimes.

Danny Dimes. Yeah, Danny Dimes out in the Indy. Why do you laugh? But I love... The same jockey time, bud. Let's do quarterback analysis, please.

Oh, God. We go on Lamar Jackson, Josh, Alan, Patrick Monez. He's throwing Danny Dimes on them. Yeah. We don't know here at the Indianapolis Colts regime, but I understand what you say.

They is a little disrespectful to the other guys for what they have accomplished that's far. I do apologize. Just so you know, Will, it was Joe's teammate Jamar Chase that said that about the game planning thing. I was going to say that. But again, once I was in the flow, I was like, oh, let me not just try and throw this name at the wall here. Again, daily television.

I've got to be on my peas and cues out here. No, brother. So you're always going to be corrected, even if you're right. Exactly. There's nothing he can do about it. But I appreciate that about Joe at Burrow. I don't think a lot of people are saying that. Because that sounds like reminiscent of like Peyton.

like that was Peyton's thing. Like, hey, he knows what you're doing. And brain-wise, he is just so far ahead of everybody. The amount of preparation that it takes to get to that point that Joey B is doing is absurd. Like, that is just how he has to operate. So I respect that. And I don't, once again, I don't think there's a lot of people going to bat for Joe Burrow being the best quarterback in the NFL on a regular basis.

So, welcome. And that was a great, that was a great comparison with Peyton Manning. I don't know how many times I lost my voice at the lunch table in high school trying to argue Peyton Manning over Tom Brady until it's just like, you couldn't anymore because of all the Super Bowls. But that is, that's a great comparison. You're not, you're not game planning. You're not doing anything against Peyton Manning

that's going to be successful other than like, you hope something works out against that, man. And I feel like it's the same with Joe B. The timing was always the issue. If you could get a good jam and mess up the timing route, right? Like that was kind of what I think Bill started doing. Yeah, that's when they changed the rule because they kept crying. Okay.

All right, let's go. That is not. That's a fact. Listen, if you're lobbying, if you're lobbying for your team to benefit for something, and it works, good on you. Patriots fans should not be saying anything about people doing things to get better as a team. Yes, we can. Oh, yeah. I mean, proven which hunt against us was to flakeet.

Proven. What about the other gate and the other gate and the other gate? Once again, those were legal in terms of rules. That's why all the other people were just like, hey, let's not be looking too far. Then when looked at, they're like, oh, but New England's doing it, so we've got to do something to them, kind of try and strike down the empire. But it lasted 20 years. Hey, when you're on top of the mound for 20 years, people are going to try to attack you. And once again, any, all football people, whenever they heard about everything the New England did, we're like, let's not get too crazy.

Let's not be investigating too much here. Let's move along. Let's move along. Let's move along. Okay, burn the tapes. Whatever. Let's move along, burn the bridges. Let's stay in New England, though. Obviously, somebody you know very well.

Go ahead, Con. Yeah, well, you were up there in New England. I believe you were trying to interview Vrable. He told you no. And I also just want to pass on my thoughts on it. If you didn't don the logo, say the fuck out of the building content. But when it comes to Vrable as a whole... You did not deserve that.

Hey, look, I'm just throwing that out there on behalf of people who are Patriots fans in New England. But when you're looking at Vrable, you know, Stretch just did an entire interview with Ari Mirov and Stretch is, you know, Vrable's Ernie Adams. basically about how Vrable is a football savant. He's got the McVeigh recall, but you never really hear about that publicly because Vrable looks like a big meathead. What can you tell us about, Mike Vrable?

You think that most people don't know, and how do you think the Patriots will do in his first year? Most people know that he's a good asshole. I would say what Vrable does, in my opinion, that it's a thing that set him apart from other coaches that I play for. is Rave does a great job every week. You're going to hear three keys come up a lot.

And there's three keys on offense. There's three keys on defense, and there's three keys on special teams. Teams do that, teams have that. But the way Vraib paints a picture for how you're going to win a football game where it feels like your backs against the wall and everybody's counting you out

and he's throwing clips up of your team performing it in practice or executing in practice or throwback clips of yourself executing it back in the day or stuff around the league that says, hey, here's how we are going to affect this game and here's how we have to win this game. The way he does that because you have a team meeting every morning to kick off the day,

Vraib does a very good job of clearly painting the picture of how you're going to win the football game. And there's no deviating from that. You're going to get your ass checked every day through practice film when you deviate from that or when you're like doing your own thing. This is why we say this, this is why we say that. And he shows you in front of the entire team.

so what Vrave does so well that I feel like no other coaches like did that I played for that you're kind of like oh shit he's kind of he's right he gets guys motivated this way he paints a clear picture for how you're going to win a football game and then when it happens

you know he sits there and brags about it and talks about hey that's just why we did that you know 14 years what do I know but he is he is man he's a leader of men and all eyes are on him when you're in that room and your assholes tight but he paints a picture you're going to win a football game When he's putting his hands on people, that's a part of the whole thing, right?

That's a part of the whole thing for him. Like, he has to be the alpha in the room. And people need to know he's the alpha. Literally, when I met him in person for the first time at that golf outing out in the American Century thing in Tahoe, he walks through the tent and he sees me and AJ. I just got done walking 18 holes for the second time of my life. The first time was the day before. My feet were all, I mean, it was terrible.

I was rather high. I mean, I was on a different stratosphere maybe. probably pretty boozed up if i had to guess it was certain we had a good time out there fireball oh yeah we just got fireball yeah yeah it was a good time we're having a blast he comes walking through you feel his aura as he hits the tent you know and he just got done walking 18 holes as well and he's 250 260 pounds but he's gonna no sell that nobody's allowed to see any weakness and he comes walking straight over to us and i see his big ass mitt literally flying like it was a left hook and i'm like oh he's he's about to check me right now he's about to hit my arm

and he's gonna check me. I was tired. I was a little bit hot. Assuming, don't actually change. I was a little boozed up. It's California. But I knew in that moment, like he is checking me right now. I flex as hard as I can, lean into it,

and I think there's a good stalemate right there, right? But he wrapped his entire hand around my shoulder, and I was like, this guy's an animal. This guy is an absolute animal. And I felt like I had to like, when you're in a room with a pit bull and pit bull get these bad rap, I have a pit bull. Pit bulls are like the greatest dogs of all time.

But if you're around one of these, dogs and you sense, they sense that you're scared. They're going to mess with you. Like, that's what it is. Rable is very much a guy. Like, if he senses any, is there anything in this guy, he's going to attack, I feel like. And that is, I think that is why his leadership style is so good. He's the guy in, he's in the locker room still, I think, if I'm watching accurately, the way he talks, the way you guys interact with him, the way he operates. He's still player in locker room, but he's obviously coach and obviously in charge. Is that an accurate depiction of his leadership style is that is that something you think spot on a time where you might feel like there

there could be any separation from the locker room and a head coach he's got the ability as the head coach to banter with you bust your balls break your spirit to where you're kind of like yeah i kind of have to listen to him and the dude is like you know i sent stretch a screenshot when they got that fight in training camp because you had the video and rabe just you know it's like coaches don't want fighting to happen rabe likes to act like he does Oh, no. I don't know. Oh, that's a, that's a, that's a big.

You're on the bus, you're on the bus. Did you guys get me? Did you lose me? No, you said Braves likes to act like he doesn't like the fights and then? Brave, yeah, Brab likes to pretend as a coach. We don't want any fights happening. But you know once that fight breaks out, he's like, you just said it, a pit bull. He wants to be in the mix.

He wants to be yelling like it shouldn't happen, but he also wants to let the boys know at the bottom of the pile that it's still his pile. I said stretch a screenshot and like, hey, get him stretch, because Stretch kind of mozied in there and then kind of backed away. He wasn't about that life, but that is rabe to a team, man. He's just got the ability to still get on that player level with you, and he still has that respect and leadership as a player and also as a coach. Yeah, and his right.

Is he stretched back there? Which one stretch? Stretch, you go to the, yeah, go to the beginning. There. He's a tall guy in that gray shirt, white hat. Tall guy, yeah, gray shirt, white hat. Look at him, stepping away. Come on, Frabs.

Come on, we can't be in the fight, man. Not going to be bleeding in the entirety. It's like a whole new era up there in New England. Patriots fans, he's gone. The bus. The bus, yeah. The bus. It might need to get that checked out.

Might have been sharing too much game on for able. Yeah, it might have been. Excuse me. Stop talking about it. He said we got rats in the building. Here's one right now on ESPA. They do have that machine up there that shuts everything down and creates weather. Yeah, and the weather, yeah.

Then they built the thing above it to show everybody where it stays. And then they started deflating the balls. No, no. Remember, that was a witch hunt in 2014. When it happened, they started testing the balls the next season in 2015, and they realized, oh, fuck. When it gets cold out, the balls, they deflate a little. Turns out, science has been saying this for a while.

Yeah, but a little bit more than the others. Joining us from the bus, ladies you gentlemen, Wilcom. How's it going? Good. Did I get lost? I came back? I don't know what happened. I don't know if you got lost.

But you just said joining us, Will Compton, I was like, hang on, am I watching a replay? Is a replay about to happen? I'm watching the boys. No, you were, you just lost connection there, right? Did that happen on our side? A disconnected screen popped up. You were gone. You did, we lost service, yes.

Oh, gotcha. I was trying to break down stretching that fight, but maybe the boys didn't hear me. And then the phone just hung up. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. So that's why I introduce you back. First phone call? You were kind of gone there. I'm back.

Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. And on that note, Will, thanks for joining us to know. That is awesome. Hey, very happy for your success. Legit. Tonight, you want to pick these two games tonight?

Nebraska. Nebraska, minus six and a half. How about Boise State and USF? USF. Oh, okay. I like USF as the underd tough trip done okay you think these are going to be high scores or you think it's going to be kind of a cagey affair between these two early in the season to do offenses have it figured

out i like points in the huskers-sincey game again i think soresby being a dual threat guy he can call he could cause problems for any defense and again it being a young nebraska defense i don't think it gets starts catching momentum until the second half um i like a high-scoring game for the husker cincey boise usf don't know much about. No, Ashton Genti is not there anymore. I feel like Boise is just a logo and a name. They're going down to South Florida and playing in that heat. That's why I like USF. But again, 61 and a half, that's a high scoring game. That's not, look, I watch Big 10th football. I watch SEC and I dabble in the Big 12 and ACC a little bit. But outside of that, I ain't tuned in to

the Boise States of the world. Well, you should. They're always good for a reason, dude. Obviously Ashton Genti was a big deal, but they got a good program up there. They really love it. Pagano has, I think he lives up there. And he talks about the commitment to ball that they have. So I think Boise State's always going to be good, especially with the opportunity that they have now with the college football playoff and how much money it is. But USF out the gate is not an easy.

That's not an easy week one when you don't even know what your team is. No, Boise basically returns everyone, including quarterback Maddox, Mattson, except for Ashen Gently. So that's why they're projected to make the playoff. But no, like going down to USF in that heat, coming from Boise. And that heat? In that heat? I don't know what you say

USF has got some you know they got the athletes oh yeah the athletes they got the guys they they used to when we would play them West Virginia would go down there it was like we should beat it in theory everybody thinks we're going to beat this team but then you look at

the D line they all ran like four fives four six like the whole D line ran linebackers all of them four or better like way before it it's like how is this team not like very very very very good and it's like why don't who knows about usf set up with the funding and everything like that you also know how much fun south florid can be yeah yeah yeah a lot distractions down there all right we appreciate the hell out of you well congrats on everything you and taylor

and the whole team over there thank you boys love you see you saturday you too good luck dude ladies gentlemen will compton yeah big will compton what a dog is he going on the game day time he's going to game day oh that'd be awesome Is he on game day? He said, See you Saturday? Maybe men, like, through the tube? Or did he mean?

Oh, yeah, man. Yeah, like, I'll be watching. Like, I'll see you. Hey, the best truck. Oh, Don on. That new ride. Oh, man. Nothing stops.

Is that an Iowa Hawkeyeh? I was going to say black and gold, Tony? That's where, you know, they got Don on there. I think they're trying to potentially. I mean, Iowa, I like that. Your first thought is Iowa. I like that. College ball.

It's more of an Iowa. It's more of an Iowa yellow than a Steeler yellow. Yeah. There's a difference. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, there's a shade, I guess. You could certainly change it. But with that being said, nothing stops around.

I didn't see the down, to be honest with you. It's right above my head. Yep. See that yellow blood splatter. It's the best truck down the line. It is. If you need a truck, it's on the line. The best one downer, ramp truck.

There's no argument there. Better than all the other guys. They are better than all the other guys. I don't like that other truck. Every utter truck. There's another truck that might say you can do what ram trucks do, but it ain't like the other ones. No.

Ram trucks are very different. That ram truck would pull that other truck backwards. All right. Let's talk about my truck. That guy was in a ram truck. That's why he was so confident. He knew. Let's talk about some NFL news.

Cam Ward named captain. Congratulations. Quarterback, especially with everything that is said about Cam Ward. I think we all kind of expected this. This is cool, though. This is not a normal thing to be a rookie and to be a captain of a team. If you're a quarterback, obviously, the team would hope that you would become a captain or be a leader of men. Cam Ward, seemingly leadership is one of his best qualities.

If you go back to when he was at Miami, flip the entire time, flip the entire university, flip the entire building. Congrats to him on becoming the number one overall pick with a lot of great hard-ass work. Started at Incarnate Work. Then he went to Washington State. Then he goes to Miami. then he creates a resume in college that makes him the number one overall pick and described as a generational talent if you listen to the GM who early in the draft process said you're number one overall pick you're not going to pass over

a generational talent I think he's also a generational leader I think the way his brain operates and the way his teams respond to him is a wonderful thing and I think Tennessee Titans have a chance now can they become a team that is relevant in the conversation because Nashville having a good team would be cool yeah because Nashville likes ball and Nashville is also a great time. So them having a good team would be great for the NFL. It will. And Cam Ward is awesome.

All the stories about how early he gets there in his leadership. So not surprised he is a captain. But Foxy, can you throw that up there? Because I have a question about captains, Pat. There's a lot of one stars on there below the seas, which I believe means it's the first year being a captain. There's, what, five of them for this team? Do you like that for a team that did have the first overall pick last year?

So like, hey, maybe we do need some new leadership in this locker room. Yeah, I like that, you know, they're going with a new generation. They certainly need to turn the page. Callahan coach there for a couple years now. He's trying to establish his culture. These are his guys. I assume they were brought in to be leaders. So, yeah, I don't mind the one stars all over the place,

especially got Simmons up there who got into a fight with Cam Ward. So, you know, I think they have the pieces. They have the city. They got an upgrade to the stadium too, right? And investment for a stadium. So it's like, the Titans uniforms, too, are sick. I know the Houston, Texans people don't like that. But they're filthy.

We've got great uniforms. And they're healthy. And Cam Ward's seemingly very entertaining. Once again, has not played a single down of football. Seemingly very entertaining. We love it. I hope the Titans become a good team. Yeah, I mean...

They're in the Colts Division. That's what I was going to say. You're looking up like this, and they ain't dime's in the boys. But, I mean, that is what the AMC South Football is all about. I think they're standing next to the Colts, but I do think there's a chance. What? The Colts and the Titans are two of the healthier teams in that division at the moment. and everyone else has kind of already had some sort of, you know, injury.

Texans for sure, Jags. So, I mean, hold the phone. What if the tightings are? Yeah, the AFC South is always going to be a dogfight. And now that's in here, there's problems for everybody. Let's talk about two divisions, the AFC East and the NFC West. They'll be wearing Nike's rivalry uniforms this year. They debuted on social media this morning.

Nasty, set of three. Reds. Ooh! The boys are modeling. Yeah, give me a little sexy eyes for these new rivalry jerseys, boys. Plop there in front of a green screen. Let's go ahead and take a photo with some good lighting and showcase some sick unis. Now, anytime you put an alternate jersey out, there's a chance everybody's going to hate it.

Okay? That is just something that is possible. In area, there's a chance you strike gold. I think that New England jersey is sick right there just as I look at it with Drake May. I think a couple of the others, like the Niners jersey. I think people will want to buy that. I think people get excited about the Jets. I think the Arizona Cardinals even have a little bit of pizzazz on their uniforms.

Anytime these happen, there's always going to be like kind of mixed results. But if the team sells, I don't know, a million of these jerseys, definitely will. So much more money. So much more money for their business. And also, I think it looks cool whenever it's on the field. You know, color rush used to be on Thursday night. It was sweet.

Yeah, it used to be divisional games. It was rivalry games. Good ones. You know, short week. These teams know each other. and they're going to dress like highlighters out there. And it was like, wow, this is different. This is a little bit of sauce.

There was throwback uniforms and alternate uniforms became the conversation. I like whenever they do this. I think whenever you do too many, though, it's a little bit of exploitation of your fan base. Yeah, for sure. But I think whenever you do it a couple times, I like it. I like the themes to this one, too. Obviously, Buffalo, you got the snow in New England.

You got the Nor-Easter coming off the ocean. Stafford, you got Gotham. Yeah, Arizona, you have the sand, little bits of dust of sand, which is a huge sandstorm rolled through the other day. So there's those unique intricacies that you've got to love. Yeah, I like the artistry you're saying from these 19 threads. What's interesting is I just assumed it was, you know, the two light-colored teams were playing, you know, the two dark-colored jersey teams, but the Bills and Pat are wearing those jerseys against each other.

Like those are the, which I think is interesting as well. No, they'll make sure that there ain't no confusion on who's on. Well, yeah, a little light blue and white. I just, you know. I know how the photos look for us, how they are in real life to a whole. and other thing. You know, because what's the lighting like in the studio where they're taking the photos? I see. Obviously, it's cold as eyes. Willing to sacrifice.

$500, probably for this jersey? That's the thing. That's the thing is, now listen, if you're, I'm not really a Jersey guy. If you are, good on you. You will be spending $4.99 for that tackle twill jersey. I just, I don't want to say we've jumped the shark on some of these ones. What? A lot of these. That one's a dolphin, a night dolphin. Come on, man. Under the sea.

That's just fucking goofy. Under the sea. It's from the depths. Like that one, like the Seahawks one looks like, I don't know, was it got like Seahawk talons slicing open the jerseers. There's just a lot of goofy bullshit on these. And I get it. I get it. If you're a 12-year-old boy, that's all you're asking for for Christmas.

That's sick. So I understand. That's awesome. The Jets have the Master Sergeant Halo 3 Green Man. Jets. Jets. Jets. That's actually the first thing I said. J-E-T-S-J-J-J-J-J-J. I hope Firemanette has a great season this year. I hope they still put them on the J-Botron because word on the street is up there in New York is. They're M-B-D-R-M-N-A.

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of 5.30 p.m. Eastern Time on ESPN as Boise State takes on USF and then Nebraska will take on Cincinnati on 9 p.m. on ESPN. There's like 20 other games taking place. We are officially a football season and we are acting according to. we are in great moods. This is the time that we have fought all off-season for. This is the time that we look forward to all year.

Since the Super Bowl ended, this is the day that we want in our lives. This is the morning where we take a dump in, it's a smooth dump. There's no wipes. Yeah, old one. This is the morning, the first sip of coffee or water is the perfect kind of temperature or mixture. This is the morning where you're brushing your teeth and it's tickling your nose hairs. And it just is enlightening you into a sense of, pure joy and happiness because tonight we have a sport that is better than every other sport on earth

and storylines developing that'll continue and carry all the way into January. This is a great time to be alive and we're thankful you're allowing us to do this for a living. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Iowa with Grinowski might be the year. Hey, it could be. Listen, I'm actually very excited to see what the Big Ten will be like kind of in that second layer. We all know what Ohio State and Oregon and Penn State are going to look like. But a lot of people think that there is a chance that the Big Ten gets four teams into the playoff this year. So teams like Nebraska, who everyone's kind of hot to trot, especially with the Matt Rule in his third year deal. Hey, this team's got a favorable schedule.

This could be setting up for them to get in. I think Iowa's the same way. I think if everything goes right for both Nebraska and Iowa, the game they play each other could be like an eliminator to get into the playoffs. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys AP tone. Indiana ranked 20th right there. SIG had to do a big overhaul yet again.

He just wins. And that is literally what Google will tell you, and your eyes, if you watch any team that he plays. Is Indiana have a shot doing what they did again last year? Yeah, if their quarterback works out, if the quarterback situation works out again like it did last year, they bring in Francisco Mendoza from Cal, who was really good there last year.

But on the defensive side, they have a first-team all-big-10 guy at D-Tackle, at linebacker, and the secondary. So they have all those- All three levels, buddy. Yeah, and they reloaded with a couple of Notre Dame linemen. on the offensive line. So SIG has reloaded. I don't know if IU, is that something you could say in the past, but it feels like SIG has reloaded.

They do have a chance. Their schedule is a bit harder this year. Well, last year, a lot of people talked about their schedule and they said, we play who what do you want to say? We played who we played. You know, a couple of special teams' mistakes against Ohio State that game is a little bit different. More sure. You know, and that's what SIGNet. He's definitely telling the boys, too, as they go into this season. What an incredible

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Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. We're doing it right now. Hey, what's the normal age to stop pee in the bed at night, you know? 14 seems way too old. I don't know. I mean, when you're peeing in the bed, you can almost have your temps and drive with your parents in the car. Like that, I don't know.

Your temps. Temporary. a license, yeah. Temp is very... You don't call it Temps? Fifteen a half, you get your temps. What, for like farm trucks and stuff? No, when you turn 15 and a half, you take a little written test. Your Temp. We call it our permit. Permit is your license.

No, your license is your license. Yeah, yeah, that's the... That's Ohio. Okay. I guess the permit permits you to drive. Is that how you guys view it as opposed to a license? Permit, what are we, 100 years old? It sounds like an old formal term. That's what it's called. You're calling a temps.

tomato tomato we're good some people call it a permit there you go I will not permit anybody to do that here on this particular program but with that being said 14 feels a little bit too old to be peeing to bed who would have thought that that guy would go

and have a nine year NFL career and now he's an ESPN analyst and we're pumped for him we can't wait to watch him this football season it's going to be a great one you just talked about it we're pumped college football is here tonight what are you looking forward to brother I tell you what, USF.

I know people are trying to say, what is it, five and a half. They're dogs, I believe, against Boise. I think that's a, that's a testy little one. I'm not, I'm not scared of UCF on this one. Alex Golish is the coach. He was actually at Ohio State my senior year, like junior and senior year. The guy was like student just breaking into the coaching world. I've watched his whole path, so I have a lot of respect for what he does.

But, I mean, Nebraska, UC, that's going to be awesome. At Arrowhead, it's going to be an awesome environment. Andy Reid welcoming them yesterday was really sweet. You know, there was like Matt Rule and Andy Reid. talking there's a lot of you know great history obviously in that stadium tonight they'll kick off a college football season can't wait to watch there's also other games there's like 20 other games i think ecu's playing um nc state yeah right there in the middle that's a huge game i mean nc state every year potentially a conversation piece mm-hmm favored by 13-half at home okay yeah

here we go here we go you can you can you can you can you can get it how you want it right here you know this is great start listen there's we've been talking to this week. Ohio Rutgers, Buffalo, Minnesota, Miami, Ohio at Wisconsin. Those are three Mac teams versus three middle of the road, Big Ten projected teams this year. There's a chance one of those Mac teams gets one of the boys in it. I don't think the books are showing enough respect for the smaller tiered teams, especially in the modern NIL world. You know, some of these schools, I don't know what Ohio's exact setup is, but if they just have a couple hundred thousand dollars from donors, you can get good players at certain positions. And if

you get good players in certain positions and you have like good fill guys everywhere else, you could steal a win against a team like any team like that can happen let alone week one where nobody has a clue what they're going to be nobody everybody thinks what their team is but until you actually get out there you don't know it's like 13 and a half is a lot of points

15 and a half is a lot of points for week one now granted I know that's a lot of respect for uh ruckers and for Enzi state and everything like that 17 and a half up there like that those are that's a lot of points for week one college football game in my eyes I am not saying that this is what you should spend your hard-earned money on. I'm just saying, when I

look at that, I think the sports books are thinking that there's going to be some blowouts here tonight, and in my eyes, first week of college, who knows? There's always one. There's always at least one. There's probably going to be multiple this weekend where someone big, you know, gets upset in that. But, you know, those mountaineers

better be watching that Ohio and Rutgers game tonight because I believe Mountaineers go to Athens, Ohio, and week two. Yeah, and don't you worry about that. Uh-oh. Okay? Yeah, we'll thank the Shiano man. Sure. Shout to part of my take for giving us a blueprint on what we need to do week two.

We'll certainly watch that. The Montaneers we'll be talking to this man. Head coach, Rich Rodriguez, here in about 20 minutes or so. Can't wait to catch up with him. There was a stat that just dropped about the amount of starts from the players that he transferred in. We have the most amount of starts

transfers in the entire Power 4 conference. This is from Max Olson. So West Virginia, we have 51 transfers that have a combined 462 starts of experience. A lot of seniors, 35 of them, I think.

32,000 snaps. Right underneath there, Virginia in the ACC. Only 31 transvers, but 447 starts. A lot of football played by not that many guys. So you're thinking this is kind of the Indiana role. Indiana got a lot of transfers that had a lot of starts, a lot of wins from smaller divisions, hungry dogs, if you will.

Hey, let's go try to flip this shit at the highest level. They make the playoffs. Okay, that was an insane run. now you're seeing West Virginia. Rich Rod's going to have to bring in a lot of veterans who have been through his type of style shit before as he's trying to change the culture. But I assume he also thinks you've got to win early

in a way to do that is with players that have won before. Yeah, and this is potentially the blueprint now after IU last year. So let's look at it. West Virginia, new, third year coach, Purdue new coach, Arizona second year coach, Houston second year coach, Wake Forest, first year coach, and then North Carolina new coach.

These are a lot of programs with new coaches bringing in guys. on that note, North Carolina has a general manager. That general manager happens to be front of the program. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now live from Chapel Hill, where we will be, I will be, Monday night for a kickoff show. We'll be off on Labor Day, but I

will be a part of a kickoff show for their first game of the season against TCU. Ladies and gentlemen, multiple times Super Bowl champion, author, Ted Talker, podcast host, live show host, email newsletter founder, and now the general manager of the North Carolina Tar Heels football team.

Ladies and gentlemen, Paizano, Michael Lombardy. Hello, Pat. It's so good to be back. It's so good to be back with you again, Pat. Lombo, I know you're in a cave right now, probably watching film. We appreciate you joining us. Saving money. You know you've been working.

Your ass off down there. How has it been? Now we have full off season. Regular season right around the corner. You're all the way back into ball. Is this as awesome as you thought it was going to be? And when you were doing media, were these the days you were yearning for?

How do you feel? feel going into the season? Well, I mean, I'm a little disappointed. I missed the Kelsey Taylor Swift announcement being in the media. I'll admit that to you. I mean, I mean, that was a big day. But other than that, I couldn't be happier. I mean, this is what I wanted to do since I was 11 years old. And I'm delighted to do it with the greatest coach of all time and at one of the greatest universities, public universities. So I'm really living out of dream late in my life. I'm happy. We've got a lot of people working really hard on what we're doing. Our coaches, our support staff, our recruiting is going well. So look, it's all coming together, but we're building a

process and that takes time and we're building a foundation for sustainable success. And you just don't do that overnight. And it takes time, but we've got players that have bought in completely. I think you'll feel that, Pat, when you come down here Monday night. I think everybody's bought into coaches program. They love what we're doing. And now we've just got to be build confidence without evidence. We've got to go out there and build that confidence. Rome wasn't built in a day. You said he can't do this overnight in changing an entire culture and trying to build your

process. We just had that stat up from Max Olson, a great stat here, by the way. It also makes West Virginia look good, so I love that. Anytime that happens, I'm going to get excited. But you guys are on that list, top 10. Obviously, it's a lot of new coaches, new situations. We've got to turn it over. 39 transfers who have 308 starts.

Was that something you guys were looking for whenever you were trying to get out of the portal? We want a guys who played football, a certain style of football. How do you kind of get to this point of being in top 10 in this particular stat? Well, I mean, look, the high school recruiting is the draft, right? Anybody who tells you the draft is going to impact your team greatly really doesn't understand the draft. The draft is always about in the NFL next year's team, right?

Like, we all should be talking about the Packers draft from 2024, not their 25 draft, or the Raiders draft from 24, not 25. Some guys will make an impact. There's no question. But the real mark of a draft is what happens in the second year for the player. As Coach Walsh used to say repeatedly to everybody, the first year we teach the players, the system, the second year we develop the skills within the system. And so the high school recruiting is for next year's team.

Will we get some production out of some kids we recruited? Yes. But the free agency is essentially the transfer portal. And that's where you have to plug and play. You've got to sign guys. We've signed Gio Lopez from South Alabama when he entered. at the portal, and now he's going to be our starting quarterback on Monday night. He started two years at South Alabama. Now he's going to start for us here at North Carolina. So those

are the things that you have to solve your problems with. And having not had a recruiting base here at North Carolina, when Bill and I arrived on the 14th of December, you know, high school recruiting was essentially done. So we're going to have to, thankfully, we had a spring portal to add a lot of players to our roster. What is the conversations like? We knew that Bill Belichick would be quite an advantage you would think for certain players in the recruiting. What has it been like now for the players that have got on there? Have you noticed that you said he got full buy-in? Is that strictly because it's Bill?

Or how has Bill been coaching these college kids versus how he talks to the professionals? Is it a different side of him? No, it's exactly the same. And I think what they're amazed by is his knowledge of the game. I think they all walk out of the meeting room saying, I've never heard anything like that. I've had coaches, assistant coaches, come up to me and say, you know, I've worked for some really great coaches. and I've never heard what I just heard in that room. So I think he really, you know, he's able to use his knowledge, his intellectual ability,

the way he sees the game, which is vastly different than a lot of people see the game, and being able to transform that into a message for them to all understand. The best part, Pat, is when you walk on the campus, you know, I'm here at the football facility, we're in the stadium, but we practice about a half a mile away at our indoor. And when you walk, you have to walk through campus to get there. The best part is when I'm walking with them, and the students are walking by, and they're like, is that Belichick? They're stunned. They're like, they want to say something, right?

They want, but then he's gone too fast, so they've gone by. They're like, you could just see him. No, thank you. He said that when we were in Detroit to some steak. It was awesome. We were at a steakhouse. Somebody was like, he walked past him, and the guy tried to stop him was like, coach, can I?

No, thank you. If he would have caught him, though, I think if he would have caught him, though, I think if he would have caught him beforehand. I think you would have took the photo, but he's almost like, you missed it. This is not, we are now down the street, this is how it goes. The amount of people that recognize Bill Belichick, I think that was, he's a megastar. He really is. I couldn't even imagine him on that camp, especially with how much you guys have given back to the university. He feels like you guys love being there always have. Go ahead, AJ. Longbo, what's going on? When you look around, like, around college football right now,

how do we, does anybody know what kind of team they have? I mean, you know what you had, and camp and everything, but until you go out there and you actually play a real game, I guess, how much can you learn from that first game, how much your guys can handle how much they can't and how you can actually coach and kind of, you know, move things around compared to the NFL game. It's really hard for me. I don't know who we are. I mean, I know who we are in terms of us against us, but that's the hard part.

You know, when you have training camp and you practice, you know, 10 days, and then you have those preseason games, you get an idea you're able to judge your team a little bit, you know what you have. This is really far into me not having any practices against some other team and, you know, what does the speed of the game going to look like? We're playing a TCU team that won six of the last seven games. They're very effective. Josh Hoover, their quarterback is outstanding. He's got a high percentage of completion. They don't have negative plays. Sonny Dykes has done a tremendous job since he's been at TCU. So, you know, you know the history of TCU. You know what they did in their game, but you just don't know what they've added and how

they've changed their team and that's always a little bit concerning as you go into it but like belichick says all the time the first quarter's for assessment in any football game you've got to assess what they are and i think that's what we'll have to do in this game as well is he treating it the same game plan um no you don't have to tell me but like the patriots always had like three game plans you know like that was always the thing i assume he's just coaching the same exact way from what you said exactly the same way i mean look one thing about college is you know you're not going to change. Josh Hoover's been a very good player for them. And Kendall Breyer's law offensive coordinator has done a very good job. I mean, this is a team that was 25th in the nation. They score a lot

of points. They run a lot of plays. They do a good job of keeping their defense off the field. They're very good at playing from in front, which is an essential quality to winning any football game on any level. So we know what to expect from them. They'd have a great job of turning short passes into long games. You've got to tackle really well. But for us, it's about really how do we play. have bad plays. We can't have false starts. We can't make mistakes because we've got to be able to have 70 plays in this game. If we have 50 plays in the game, TCU will score points. P1 matters. First play matters, especially going against one of those teams. If you don't get any yardage on first down to the first, you're in trouble. I mean, it is. Because then that's

probably three and out. They're getting a ball back and they are just, and your defense gets no time. and then you're back at it. You've got to slow them down, Mike. You've got to slow them down. Hope you're able to do it. TCU team, very efficient. Let's talk about the team that you have and you've been able to get.

Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Lombo, I do want to talk about that. I want to talk about how many times have you called Michael Jordan for NIL money? Is that something that you're allowed to do since I assume he's probably one of your biggest donors? And then also, like, with the NIL and the situation and the revenue sharing coming down the line,

it hasn't fully passed yet or whatever, but have you started preparing for a situation where, you know, it's going to be, hey, you get so much money for your team, and then on the other side, they could get the NIO. Well, the NIL, they've kind of, the rules about NIL go and you have to process that. That's for Michael Jordan. Look, Michael Jordan's presence is more important than is opening up as billfold. Michael Jordan involved with our program is what it matters. I mean, I have three jerseys in my office, right?

I mean, I'm in the football office. I hung three jerseys on the wall here. Julius Peppers, the great Lawrence Taylor, and Michael Jordan. I mean, that's who we are. And I think to me, him wanting to be involved, him wanting to give us the Jordan brand, which I wear every single day, that's really important because no matter how long he's been away from the game, the kids know Michael Jordan, they know the logo, and he has a tremendous impact on him. And so financially, to me, that's more important than that.

You know, sometimes you have to, you understand the value of what a donor brings to the table, and sometimes it's just not always cash. Yeah, Michael Jordan's presence is certainly good. Cash also. Also helps. Just saying in sports. I got this text from Hembo while we were talking. Shout to Hembo, master statistician.

The Patriots had won seven playoff games in 40 seasons before Bill Belichick arrived in 2000. They were a UNC equivalent, is what Hembo is saying. Like what Bill Belichick was able to turn New England into, which I think he should get a lot of credit for in everything that he's been able to do. Yeah, he wasn't making pizzas in spite of what some people think he was doing up there. Like, he wasn't the chef up there in New England. I mean, I know there's been documentaries and books written about he was basically working in the background. Yeah, on that. Short order book.

Yeah, I got all that. Yeah. I mean, like at some point, you know, yeah, I'll have two eggs over easy, Bill. And by the way, we'll take care of the game. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah, on that. Yeah, Connor has a question for you.

That was awesome. As a Patriots fan, of course, what Bill said, you know, was interesting about how, you know, the difference in coaching in college. It's all football. There's no owner. There's no owner's son personally, and I think most Patriots fans feel this way. Bill should take as many shots for as long as he wants after that Apple TV dynasty documentary. So I'm glad he's getting stuff like this in, especially because of how the whole entire thing

ended and how it went last year. But to your point right there, what you said, that first year, or to Hembo stat, rather, that first year in New England, you know, it didn't go great. And then the year I think they went six and 11 or five and 11 in the year after they're on the Super Bowl. And when it comes to expectations for, you know, Bill Belichick coach teams, aside from that one, typically every single year it was a Super Bowl. As far as like the team expectations from, you know, Bill's point of view, from your point of view, obviously it's the first year you've got to continue to grow. But when it comes to this year, is the biggest goal, you know, the finding out who you are to, you know, what you were saying when it comes to the game is the biggest goal, just seeing

development in freshmen? Like, what is the mindset coming from Bill and yourself when it's college versus the NFL when winning is the only thing that matters? You know, look, everybody wants to win games and that's great. But sometimes winning can be a little bit of a misleading instrument where, you know, some teams win their first year and then they come back and they're not able to duplicate the winning because they haven't built the right foundation. And then all of a sudden it becomes problematic. I think for us it's about getting better every single day. Look, the challenges that await us, we understand that. And we understand winning as part of the job that we've signed up for. It's a great job, but winning comes

with it. But I think we have to lay the foundation and the process in place. We just can't assume we're going to go out and win. I mean, Nick Saban was what, seven and six, his first season at Alabama. Well, we've had many phone calls with Nick talking about what happened in his first year. It took him some time. Now, he didn't have the portal, right, to help him out when he was at Alabama. But what he did the next year in that recruiting class, it was Hightower, it was Julio Jones, it was some really good, Mark, you know, Mark Ingram. There was some great players that he recruited that started his program in the right direction. And I think that's something that we have to do. We have to be very sustainable in our approach. And that's always

been bills. I mean, look, let's face it, Connor, you know better than anybody. The Patriots and I don't mean this is a knock towards anybody in the organization. They never were in the top five of spending in New England. Never. They've always maintained a certain balance with their salary cap and their building of their team because they wanted sustainable success. And that's because of the head coach. I appreciate that Bill is committing this much to North Carolina because to build an entire program is going to take a few years. Like, that's a long time. Everybody was assuming this was going to be a one year, two year thing,

especially because of where he is in his life, seems like he has started a new chapter. You know, there's a lot of noise outside of football up there for Bill. You know that. Yeah, I mean, it's not in the building. So that's the one thing that I can honestly say unequivocally. Our players have said that, too, that noise. And I haven't seen any part of Bill's work ethic slowing down.

I think it's, in fact, it's increasing. At least, it's remarkable. I mean, it's remarkable how, and the attention to detail hasn't slipped away. And he's involved in every single facet of our, I don't think they've had a coach here. And I don't mean this disrespectful towards Mack Brown or any coach who's been here. But I don't think they've had it coached. Our players have had a coach, some coming from the portal, some being here, that have coached all three phases like Bill does. I mean, Bill's out there coaching the block punt team.

And so, like, he's involved. And so that's part of what we sell. you're going to get a coach who's not going to be a situational game manager or call plays. You're getting a head coach. He twirling that whistle every video. You'll be down at the punt team, and then next you'll see him twirling that thing talking shit to some defensive guy. And then he goes up with the offense. You can't do that.

You just can't with the whistle twirl. We're just like a coach's life. He's lived. He loves ball. I think that is very, very evident. As do you. I can't wait to see what you do with the college version of it all. Well, Ty is a question about the professional version.

Yeah, Lombo, would you look at the Micah Parson situation, if you were the Cowboys GM or you were Jerry Jones, and I don't know how much you've seen of all of that with getting ready for the game on Monday, but all the trade rumors, they're saying Green Bay is interested, they have a contract ready for them, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, Jerry and Micah had the handshake deal. That's been made a big topic of conversation, obviously, because things don't really get done like that anymore,

when you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. But if you were in that situation and you were doing all that negotiating and you had to make a decision, what would you do and how do you think this ultimately plays out? Look, it's hard to find Micah Parsons. Guys that change the game, he's a Tuesday player, right? And I wrote about this in my book, Football Done Right. Tuesday players are the players that you have to worry about on Tuesday in a game plan meeting. Right.

And those players on Tuesday go into the Hall of. Fame. I mean, that's what they are. You're sitting there, you're driving to the stadium Sunday morning, and all you're thinking about is, how am I going to block Parsons? How am I going to handle him in protection? What am I going to do? The game plan is set up for him. Pat, you had Dwight Freeney. When he went out of the game, we're taking shots down the field, right? When he's in the game, we can't do this, this and this. That's a Hall of Fame player. And I think that's what Parsons is as well. Now, to me, you know, Jerry has always been late to sign guys. And because of his ability to talk and to convince players.

Look, we're in an age now where I can't have a meeting with a player here at North Carolina without someone else in the room so we can validate exactly what happens because I don't want to play that. I said, you said, she said, he said, I don't want to play that game. And I think you've got to be very careful about that, especially when it comes to your locker room. So look, Jerry's found a way to get through it with Dak Prescott. He's not done it.

He's been late to the party to sign him and now he's at $60 million. dollars but he seems to enjoy it but i think at this point in his life the best thing he can do is to get him signed to a long-term contract without having to franchise him for two years and having to pay an awful freight to keep him on the roster everybody's going to be interested in the guy i mean who has past rushers that can change the game i mean that's lane johnson we're walking he's just walked right back there that guy's a really good player so he's he's a hot commodity and he can tilt the game and i think what we saw with the cowboys traded for charles hailey back in the day they won Super Bowls after they got Haley. This is the kind of

player we're talking about. Hembo sent me a stat. Most sacks on... I love Hambo. Geez. Hembo. Hambow. Hempbo. Everybody, Hambone. Love you, Hambow. Hembo. Hambone, too, we're big fans of. Most sacks on a team

after getting traded there. In third, John Abraham, 68.5 sacks for the Falcons. In second, Chandler Jones, 71 and a half sacks for the Cardinal. and the most sacks in the history after being traded to a team.

Jared Allen, 85 and a half for the Vikings. Let's go. So there has been, and I think Reggie White was traded to... He was like the free agent. First free agent signing, yeah, like big one. Schneid said yesterday he was a trade.

So Snide's he'd tighten up. Okay, Snodd, your boots on the ground. I'm taking what you're saying for verbatim there. But Jared Allen going there and having that career, I only remember him as a Viking, obviously. Like, that can happen. And Jerry doesn't want that for Maka. No.

No, he does not. He's going to be – Peyton Manning was only shown in a Denver Broncos uniform for a long time after he retired. Yeah. Okay. Jim Hersey and the boys had to build a statue for him here in Indianapolis for people to, like, remember that he played for the Colts. And he was here for like 18 years. And what a Super Bowl. And it was like – Jerry – Jerry doesn't want Mock up playing anywhere else.

But Jerry has also said that his mouth has gotten him into a lot of borrowed money. I'm too good at getting borrowed money. I was $50 million in debt, actually. and then there's one oil rigged and he paid $800,000 for hit. I made $100 million just off of that ring. I knew exactly what I was doing

and I was buying Dallas Cowboys. You know, all that's true. You know, Pat, all that documentary about Jerry, all that stuff is true. And I lived it. I experienced it, not because I worked for the Cowboys, but we played in 1989. We were getting ready to play the Buffalo Bills

in a conference game, a divisional round. And back in 89, there were no places to practice indoors. Nobody had an indoor facility like we all have now. And so we, you typically had to go somewhere. So the Browns, we used to go to Vero Beach to practice at Dodger Town, but that was being used. So we went to the Cowboys facility. And Jerry had just bought the team. And the building, he moved everybody into half of the building because he didn't want to pay the heat cost for the entire building because he was so leveraged out on everything. So he just practically moved

and now people were in two offices and shared it. It was unbelievable. And then he changed the game completely when he gave Jerry, Jimmy Johnson, that contract. And he took all the money from Apex and said, here, Jimmy, all the money I just got from Apex, I'm going to give it to you. That changed the game. That changed the game. That's why he belongs in the Hall of Fame for what he's done for the league in terms of the value he put. The money you made in your career, a lot of it contributed to Jerry Jones.

There's no question about that. his ability to see the game moving forward but this issue on parsons is a separate issue yeah the parsons stuff might be just drama that he loves which is a part of his business plan yeah he has actually said that that's a part the cowboys aren't scared to be in the middle a little bit of controversy don't you worry about what the cowboys are doing here i was told by somebody uh kind of in the know in the NFL world one jerry jones in the league was a necessity if there was 32 jerry jones our league would be over. Is that a, like one was a necessity?

Well, at the time when he came in, it was really, he was the Steve Jobs of the NFL. He came in with a different idea, a marketing strategy that no one else do. If you see pictures, and happy birthday to Coach Parcells last week, you see pictures of Coach Parcells on the sideline next to Belichick. Coach Parcells is wearing an apex jacket, and Belichick's wearing a starter jacket. And they were each making a little bit of money, not a lot, from each company. and Jerry said enough of that I own the sideline

here's what we're going to do and now the owners own the sideline yeah Reebok deal and then this this whole yeah and now they're a cash gal he was I was in $50 million in debt to be clear

now most valuable franchise in the history of sports it's a hell of an American dream story brother got 700 mil from the NFL unbelievable all right Lombo good luck down there we can't wait to watch I'll see you Friday I'll see you Monday night Monday afternoon, we got a lot of people in the house.

Can't wait to have you. Hope to see you. Yeah, I can't wait to be down there, man. I was asked if I wanted to do it, and I was like, Lombone Bill's first year. Absolutely. You got to come here for their game. We got musical, I mean, I hear this thing. We've got musical talent coming down here.

The great Eric Church is a huge, huge UNC fan. Hopefully he's going to show up with his bus, and maybe he'll play a little Springsteen for us. Oh, is he? I don't know. I can't answer that. Oh, I just put a little public push on him a little bit.

Yeah. I like that. You're the man. All right, Paizon. Good luck. Thanks, guys. Bye-bye. Michael Lombardy.

Springsteen. Is that on Monday? Jordan coming? Is Jordan doing the coin toss? Probably. Michael? Lawrence Taylor. I could be there too.

Yeah, I was saying Michael. Michael, right? Oh, you're a different one. You're thinking of Jordan. Yeah. Is that pronounced Jordan, though, I assume. With Theo? or is it?

George Don't think so Every time you read it it's hard not to say Jordan I've been saying Because it is D-O-N normally you see A in there whatever the case She's in a lot of headlines all the time And it's not what we expect from a Bill Belichick Like thing but the Bill Belichick's living his life

And if Lombardy's saying hey Inside the football we're still doing our thing I'm excited to see what the team is It's a lot to just build a culture flip a culture We're going to be joined here soon by a guy Who's doing it again at a school that he went to he's a alumni of and he's being tasked with flipping an entire culture back to what it actually is you know representing an entire state of just tough like that is literally what it is

and this guy had a hachi machi machi machi on the other day hard edge bandana just letting you know I'm a samurai of tough if you would like to come learn from a sensei I am the guy yeah if you are tough and you are athletic we want you here at west virginia now it's going to be hard shit ain't going to be easy you're going to have to be tough but that is what Hard Edge is all about. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. It's one of the greatest football coaches of all time. I was very lucky to have him as a college football coach,

and now he's back at West Virginia University, the home of tough, ladies and gentlemen, Coach Rod. Yay, Coach! Hey, Pat, where did you get that funky pitcher at? I swore to Raquel, I said, I don't remember taking that pitcher putting a headband, but somehow I got circulated. I looked like an idiot, but...

No, this is a good thing, not a bad thing. This is you are a hard-edged samurai, coach. Hey, how are you doing, boss? How is life over there? It's good. Camp was good. You know, I still have my voice. You know, the first week was really tough.

But I'm proud of our guys. You know, Pat, it's a different type of challenge, you know, no matter what coach or what system you bring in and you're going to be, we're going to be demanding. And I'm proud the way they hung in there. You know, now I've got to see what we have. You know, we've got to play a game and find out what we really have. But from an attitude standpoint, a culture standpoint, I don't think we're 100% there, but we're a lot further along than we were a month ago and six months ago.

Okay, so let's talk about it a lot further along. Whenever you get the job, you understand that nowadays an entire building is not just the team in assisting coaches. There's everybody in the building now. We got nutritionists, dietitians, trainers, massage, everything. That's a nice facility over there from whenever we were there the last time. That is a very beautiful upgraded facility. But the entire building has to kind of buy into your culture. How has that been?

because obviously I think the way Neil Brown coached, no offense to Neil Brown, I appreciate what he did for West Virginia University, spent a lot of time in Morgantown, but the way he coached vastly different than the way you coach and the way you run a program, how has that been? How has it settled in? Was there like a little bit of a culture shock, or do you think everybody's kind of figured it out pretty good?

I think it was going to be a little bit of shock no matter who came in and did their own system. But what's funny, pals, we took a team pitcher here a couple weeks ago, and there was as many people in white polo shirts on the staff as there was in uniform. I mean, I couldn't believe all that. I was embarrassed because I didn't know everybody's name. I'm like, here's 100 something. We're feeding 250 people every day in our building.

So that's why our food costs is so high. We can probably pay some players, you know, we take some of these polos out of here. And football staffers and football players don't eat like normal people. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's normal people out here. No, there's a loaf of bread for one guy might last a day. A gallon milk ain't going for two days, you know, it's crazy. But I'm really fortunate to have it.

You know, I think it's, you know, West was changed before when I got a staff pitcher when I was first here when you were playing for us. You know, there's like 10 coaches and four GAs and like three administrators and one strength coach, right? Now that's the recruiting room. You know, that's it. It's a little different dynamic. And so you have more, I guess you have to have more people buy into the culture or help you teach the culture. than ever before and that's the part i'm really pleased about that the staff really has not only they got it by you and they got no choice right but the staff really helped me uh establish that part

go ahead a j coach what do you uh like first game you said we got to see what kind of team we are what do you expect and what are like some non-negotiables that you have for your team that for especially the first week you want to see and see how they execute well the easy easy answers though don't loaf and don't be soft and but that's kind of a standard for anything but now it's a you know you don't go live that much in practice you know you're a couple scrimmages and a couple practices you'll be live or almost live but in the games it's all full go go on and so you know you'll see who plays a little bit faster in game time who's a little bit more physical in game time are the lights too big or whatever and you know some guys

you think you know what you have and you guys know that you guys play at the highest level there are certain guys that do play a rise to a level when there's a game and some guys maybe don't and until you play a game, you've got to figure that out. I wish we had a preseason game. It'd be easier to kind of guesstimate what you have. But at the same time, these guys have worked hard enough. They've earned the right to show what they can do, and then we'll see what happens.

We're going to play a lot of people this weekend. I don't know if a pre-send, play a lot of people. I like that. That's a little piece of information in a nugget to find out who you have. I know the depth chart conversation has certainly been hilarious with you, and why would you ever put a depth chart out, especially when you don't know what you have. And the implications are very serious,

especially with how. transferring and everything kind of works these days. And I think you like the entire room in most rooms. On that note, you brought up a preseason there. I don't know if a preseason game will ever get approved, but it feels like the scheduling and how kind of power for conference football is is changing right in front of our eyes. I think people aren't scared to get a loss maybe early in the season, so maybe they'll play a little bit bigger games. You're a guy I know that will play anybody. Now, I know the Alabama thing just kind of ended, but you are literally hey if let's let's fight in the park we don't we'll play let's play you how do you feel about

where college football is right now with college football playoff and how it's designed and set up and was that a big part of you coming back to the big 12 or back to one of these power conferences in west virginia well how college football is it's a cluster i better not say the last word but uh but it's but i think there's efforts to make it better i still think i'm giving my opinion i still think there's a separation that's about to come where there's going to be 50 or 60 power for schools that have their own league and then everybody else is separate because there's just so many different dynamics that play now money financially, you know, the commitments to programs, what they can do going forward and all that.

So we're running a professional league now. And so as many professional rules that we can follow, which the NFL is obviously the most successful pro organization there is, we've got to follow that. So if we're going to follow an NFL model for fairness and equity, you know, we need to get those rules established like right now. Now, people can complain about the NFL all the want. You guys know this. There's fines and there's consequences for not following the rules and all that.

The college, there's still not that. And so I think all that's going to have one aspect. But I can sit here and bitch about it. Right now, I'm saying, what am I going to do? What good does it do to me to bitch about? What's the rules right now? What do we got to do to win on these rules? And what can we control?

What we can control is our guys playing. playing really hard, playing with passion, all right, and being disciplined. And so this first game, I was on our guys yesterday. I said, we can't have pre-snap penalties. We can't have guys holding. When you hold, you're lazy. That's it. If you loaf, you're a traitor.

You play for the other team. So I don't want lazy people, and I don't want traders, you know what I mean? And so that's not being like a jerk. And I could be a jerk, but that's not being, that's just being a team, a disciplined team, in my opinion. If you are loafing, you are a traitor. You are playing for the other team. You are wasting a spot on the field right now, and you are contributing. We've got 10. We've got 10 against 12.

If we've got two guys, it's 9 against 11. They gain, yeah. Yeah, it's, you are a word smith. You were one of my favorite humans I've ever encountered, as you know. The things you, the way you would put words together and how you would, you're a psychologist, and you're also, you say hard edge, hard nose. accountability, discipline, like what you taught me and our entire team, we all have carried into our life. I think about your West Virginia's southern fucking accent saying something to me

on a very regular basis whenever something pops up in life. And I think once you get the guys in there that understand that and can buy into it, I think the opportunities in the sky is the actual limit on that note. Tone has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, coach. Obviously, you coming from Jack State and a lot of your coaches coming from Jack State and still in that culture is huge. But how important is it the guys that you brought, the players that you brought, I think it's like six to eight, somewhere around that range of guys that you brought over from Jack State that are in the locker room every day, that are around the other players every day? How important are those guys to instill the culture with the team?

Well, we thought, that's, you know, part of the reason we thought, well, they're good players, but two, they can help the guy, explain to the guys, hey, coach ain't that crazy. It's really a method that we're doing to help these guys be the best version of themselves. But even those guys, I had to get on. Of course. Which tells you that it's a constant thing. You have to do that daily. Now, there are some guys that get it.

You'll never have to say a thing. But there's other guys. You have to fight it every day. I mean, you really have to fight it every day. So it's not a once-in-a-while thing that you ask for in your players. It's an everyday thing. And then once it truly becomes established and ingrained in your program, so to speak, then the only guys you got to teach other 30 or whatever, 25 new guys going for it every year.

51, 70, 100 new guys. so many new guys. Somebody told me the number was 79. I'm like, damn, no wonder I don't know all their names. Yeah, it's a lot of players. Signetti did this, though. Is that something you guys are looking at, like a blueprint? I did look a little bit at what he did there and had some.

He brought a lot more guys in from JMU and were immediate help and all that kind of stuff. But we did think about that a little bit. He brought production as opposed to potential, I guess you would say. And that's the same thing everybody wants. Not that we won't take a power for. transfer or it's got to be the right fit no matter where it is. But there were a lot of guys for us that we thought, you know, we were looking for a move up or looking for opportunity on a bigger stage.

And so they had a different type of reasoning or hunger as opposed to that. The guys that were looking for just a bigger payday, you know, that wasn't, we weren't going to get that guy. You know, that guy's not, you know, plus that's not the mindset that we're going to build the culture around anyways. On that, Ty has a question for you, coach. Yeah, so speaking of that mindset, coach, when you go out and you're recruiting, whether it's, you know, high school kids that might be coming or its prospective people in the transfer portal.

How long does it take you to identify, like, okay, this is a kid that actually will fit into the culture when you maybe haven't had them in your building or, you know, anything like that? Yeah, you have to ask hard questions. I think any coach will tell you that. I mean, it's all about, I know Coach Saban said this, and I've obviously said it for the last few years. You've got to buy guys. You've got to buy the right players, right? You know, some schools have been buying them for years, you know.

That's what goes that. But the truth is you got, you better, you better, evaluation is always the biggest piece. People realize, and if a five star is probably a five star, you're probably not going to miss on too many of those because if you're ready to so-called five-star, you're probably so dynamic that it's hard to screw that up. But everything else is a little bit of a crapshoot if you don't really evaluate, not just his talent and his size speed, all that kind of size and all that. But does he really love football? You know, right now, you're getting a lot of guys that play football in high school and college that like it, not love it. I want the dudes that love it and need it. So if you take it away from it, it bothers them.

I don't want the guy that loves how many likes he gets on TikTok or whatever it is. Yeah, you hate that. Yeah, we know that. Yeah, I mean, I don't mind if that's like a side hobby, but if how many likes he's got is more important than beating a block to get a sack or high point. in a ball and a jump ball situation or whatever the case may he that's the wrong dude i want to do to just you know as hey coach we get to practice today not that we have to practice today we get to that's what i want yeah and you just saying there does he love football like i just want back to so many moments of you because everybody on your teams and you've probably been told this have

had a moment where they all looked at each other and go Jesus Christ man this guy this guy is getting after it. You know, and the weight room is a massive piece of it. And I've heard great things out of the wait room, too, because it's like every day is on. I had the incredible opportunity to be a drill instructor for the Marines in this movie called the Mosquito Bowl. Well, the book is called the Mosquito Bowl. The movie's being filmed right now in Australia. Peter Berg's directing it. There is awesome dudes across the entire thing. And watching them become not just actors, but actual team behind the scenes as they're representing the greatest generation and college football in this movie that is going to be, you know, phenomenal from what I have seen thus far. It's like what

drill instructors, when I went down to Paris Island to watch them and learn from them, as I was depicting them in a movie that was going to be seen by a lot of people, these are the bestest motherfuckers on earth. These dudes are, they don't sleep. They're expected to be perfect every single day. They are supposed to stay on these Marines shit every single moment, basically. And these recruits are, you know, not worthy of being Marines at the beginning. and then once they get through boot camp, it's almost like you've earned your stripes and you have kind of dealt with

and went through what a drill instructor has given you for 13 weeks. Nowadays, back then it was seven to eight weeks because they're in wartime. So it was all kind of much quicker. As I was learning about these drill instructors, all I thought to myself was Rich Rodriguez would have been a phenomenal drill instructor.

I mean, absolutely. I was just on my team, on my team yesterday about discipline. You know, I was talking about penalties, pre-snap penalties, holding because you're lazy, you're not moving your feet, whatever, or discipline, you know, in your work ethic, whatever it is. I said, discipline is a form of love.

It's what you do for somebody, not at somebody. But nowadays, it's tougher because you discipline somebody, and they're like, he don't like me anymore, you know, or what happens. It's like, no, if I didn't like you, I wouldn't even pay attention to you. You'd never hear. I'll tell the guys, I probably said it to you before. Oh, yes. But the day you start screwing up and I don't say something to you, that's when I gave up on you. And I ain't giving up on nobody.

and surely I wasn't going to give up on you and I didn't have to worry about that too much but some of these other guys it's like you're all I'm looking at you know I said listen I'm doing it for your benefit you know I don't never say it that nice but anyway you are great

you are just know that when you watch this movie that I'm in know that I drew a lot of inspiration from like your attention to detail and also the way that you are trying to get everybody to their best version. Like you said that earlier, but that is legitimately what it is. You just have your way of doing it. Now, there are other ways to do it. I don't think I've ever seen a successful

operation, not be accountable, not be disciplined. Like all the traits that you pitch are the traits that make as successful anything, business, team, you can name it. So I want to thank you for being my college football coach and for, you know, changing me. And you mentioned it in the press conference and I texted you immediately afterwards seeing it because I think you didn't want to like step out of line where you're like if you see pat like pat works his ass off i think you learned some stuff from our you know program it's like yes you can absolutely say that i learned a lot through your program about how i should approach life how i should view life work ethic what i should expect all those things so you should be taking a lot of credit for that you should not feel like

you can't do that well here's here's the point with pat mackafee and and some others of your teammates and other people you know that that you have on uh on your show whatever's they don't only have that, but they have a certain level of competitiveness that they want to do whatever you want them to do, you know, the discipline, the work ethic and all that. And so that competitiveness piece of it, I think, is sometimes not looked as much as well. The kids are, I think, naturally competitive, but the most highly successful ones, like yourself and everybody else that you have around you, they're the ultra-competives. You know what I mean? They'll race you to the water fountain for crying out loud. I mean, if there's, you know, if there's one piece of steak over there and there's 20 yards,

I'm going to beat the shit out of him to get to it. I mean, everything's keeping score, you know what I mean? And some people say, well, you know, it's not right nowadays. You know, it's this participation trophy thing. Like, are you shitting me? You know what I mean? No, there's a winner and there's a loser. And, you know, if you don't get the participation trophy, then try harder next year, you know.

Yeah, work harder. Work harder building up to it. You didn't earn it. Sports are a meritocracy, and they always will be. What you do in the dark when nobody's watching will certainly be seen in the light when everybody's watching. And what you and your team have done, which we already know anybody that's been through your shit, we know the boys are going to be ready. And we know that you guys are ready to fight.

I can't wait to watch your team. Maybe see you in a couple weeks. Yeah, we hope. We hope so. Let's take care of business. Let's not be fucking, you know, let's, you know, we need today. Right now, I'm worried about getting the first. down in the first play of practice here in about two hours and then i'll take it from there i asked

him this morning a j when i called him i said coach how you doing he said fuck just trying to get a first down let's get it's harder than ever now you know what i mean how he hits me it's like i'm speaking a foreign language still that first year i mean and i got a lot of one word calls i'm like if i had one of these west coast offenses where you had like 18 sentences to make a play call we'd be screwed and went out with no hope whatsoever. I got a bunch of one word calls you think they'd be able to handle it. Hey, speak of to handle it. Hold on. I want to go back to a video that I broke down. I wasn't there. I don't know if you've seen my breakdown of the video that hit the internet. This was certainly equipment manager wearing the ref stripes not spotting the

ball accurately. Is that what this was? I think it was. No, I don't think it was the equipment manager. I think it was one of the staff members. One of the coaches I have one of the coaches in charge of being like the umpire or the center judge to spot the ball quickly and for whatever reason he was just not paying attention and it cost us about 10 seconds and that's like that's 10 seconds i'll never i'll never get back i'll be sitting on my deathbed and wish i had 10 more seconds to live because they screw to drill up i'll never get that 10 seconds back you're the greatest i'm happy you haven't changed good luck i'll see you soon take care of business ladies the gentleman, the founder of Hard Edge.

Thanks guys. I'll be laying on my deathbed and I'll think, I wish I had 10 more seconds. Do you know where they went? You spotting the ball in the wrong place. I'm telling you, when I was watching those Paris Island drill instructors, these unbelievable men and women,

just the baddest humans on earth. Limited sleep, maximum energy, full attention all the time, have to be perfect. It's like to play that a movie is absurd. They're going to be so mad at my version of it. I understand there's going to be many drill instructors who have

sacrificed their entire lives to creating Marines for extended periods of time. I mean, it is a full commitment families. What is that? You know, like we are in this with this platoon right here. It's like honor of a lifetime, but as I'm watching them and the way they were speaking, and then I watch

some film, obviously, we watch R. Lee from Full Metal Jacket and everything like that. The way they talk, it's a lot of promos, and it's like they're trying to get their point across, and it's like not exactly the everybody's saying the same things. They're cutting promos in there to try to crack through, to try to break through to try to touch an emotional nerve. They are trying to get to that to let you know like,

hey, everything you've learned before getting here, like does not matter. We're the Marines, we're the first to fight, and you are not going to be a Marine unless you are a bad motherfucker. Like that is just what the Marines are. That's what they stand for. And the culture is the drill instructor. So as I'm watching and listening these drill instructors,

I'm like, Rich Rodriguez missed his calling, man. This is, every day there's something you can fix. Because even when they're standing perfectly, they're not. Your feet aren't at 45 degrees. They're at 46 degrees. You need to go ahead and move that shit. You're standing up right. Nope, you're not enough.

You're fucking need to extend that spine a little bit more. Like, there's always something to fix because it's like you're always striving. You have never made it. That is Rich Rod to a T. Yesterday, have the greatest practice of all time. He's coming in the next day. That was shit.

Absolute shit. We're watching the things that were bad and then we're going into it. it's like with that being said i think that's always going to win you know like it's always going to end up winning like i think if he would have stayed at michigan a little bit longer i think i think he probably would have won i think he would have started winning at arizona i think he started away jacksville state he takes them from uh not d1 to d1 wins conference it's like those intangibles win in the sport of football toughness accountability

uh being a good teammate like that matters in our sport so like whenever richard gets hired back to West Virginia. I think everybody that was at West Virginia where Rich Rod was there was like, all right, we're going to win. We're going to win games. Are we going to win it all in this modern world with how much money some people have versus what we have? Maybe not, but are we going to be a tough football? Big 12? Yeah,

we're going to be a tough football team and it's going to be fun to watch, you know, AJ, it's like a cool feeling. And Rich Rod even said that. He's like, it's every day. Like, you've got to stay on it. It's true. It's like a parenting. If you're a parent, like if you had a kid get away with a tiny little bit, like they're going to continue to try to push and push in your team, I think a bad thing for a team is if they're

comfortable like a team should never really be comfortable i know at least as a player i i never felt comfortable you should never be comfortable and sometimes you wish you were but then you're like no like we don't that's not how it works you have to be on everything every single day and you can't let anything slip meetings at two o'clock okay you better be in there 150 because that meeting's starting anywhere between 150 and two o'clock so if you're anything after 150 you're late and you're sitting there you're facing the front okay we're facing the front we are not the same you're not just hanging out. And we're not just having a study hole. Hey, how was he last? That, hey, we

are in a fucking team meeting right now. This is, we have a reason. And then he would walk in whenever, 154 through the back. And it was like, as soon as he walked in, it was everybody was like, all right. Here we go. We have no idea. We have no idea what's about to happen here. We have no, he could throw us a bone,

which is exactly what they call it. I think on Parris Island, when he throws somebody bone, like let him just have like a little bit of a moment. He could throw us a bone. Hey, guess what, boy's going to a pool. It's like, holy shit we thought we were running the hill potentially there like always guessing you know never content always striving and oh yeah we can get better than we were yesterday that's why like i hope he wins i do i hope he gets a chance because i think he's done it in a way that is a

winning way in football and uh it is like you feel for the people that have gone through rich rodriguez like football program like the guys that went through with neil brown and danel hulgerson in west virginia certainly respected your mountaineers i do We didn't have a lot in common, though, because I didn't, you didn't have to go through Barlow's Beach. And I know you didn't, because I've been watching the videos of what you guys been doing. We were damn near death every day. Like, that is what we were. And those rules were a little bit different back then.

And watching that team and kind of watching it build and watching him just be the alpha of the room. And us rallying sometimes against him, almost like, fuck this guy. Like, this guy has no idea. He doesn't care. He wants that. Like, that is a part of the entire mission. It's like, they're going to win. at West Virginia. And I'm honored that they

have selected me for the Hall of Fame. And I'm pumped that Rich is back there. It's going to be electrifying this fall, I think, personally. Maybe not this year. I think coaches back. I think Coach's back. Rich Rod's style-ish, I think, it's coming back a little bit. Matt Rule 2, same thing. We're out there, Tick-Talk, please. No. Go on, get it out of there. I think it is.

That's always been the style that wins. Some coaches just are a little bit better with the media, I think. You know? Like Andy Reid... Some are louder than others, I think. Some are louder. Nobody expects Andy Reid. Andy Reid is he's not swearing like Richard, but it is. Still the same. Who's that Arizona State Coach, the young guy?

Dillingham. It feels like he's just like that as well. He's great. Yeah. It's, hey, you have to. Like, this is a developmental thing. Like, you are boys to men. A, B, C, thing.

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It's the greatest AJ if you loaf You're a traitor It's true It's true There's all Do you guys have different forms of loaves as well Like we get graded

There's a turn it down loaf If you turn it down There's a speed up loaf If you're running All of a sudden you change your speed Yeah all that stuff No people are getting loaves when they weren't loafing I think back whenever at West Virginia

I mean he is he's looking for treason You know, he is certainly going to find it, too. If you low for your trader, if you hold, you're lazy. I don't want lazy traders on this team. What in line. Dude, he was electrifying as a head coach. I mean, that is just like putting it mildly. Every year at the end of training camp,

I would host a gong show of sorts that the freshman would put together. And I would be Rich Rodriguez at the end of that thing. And I would just say things that he had said in the past year. Just his, I would write his shit down. So, like, literally throughout the year, things would happen, and I'd be like, locking that one down. Like, if you love for your trainer, that would have been immediately, like, yep, putting that down. And in this time, at the end of the gong show, I would come out Stone Cold Steve Austin from the back like he does for the team meetings, because, like, different groups of freshmen would do their show or whatever, and then I would come out.

And at the very end, I would come, I came out like Stone Cold Steve Austin, Glass Break, did the entire thing. And I won on. That was probably my first time really doing a performance. if i had to say and that was a tough room okay we had a tough team that that's a tough room we got people literally from compton south florida ohio every you name it we got people from all over the map in that room and they're all just getting done with training camp and it's a rich rodriguez training camp so that's a tough fucking room i mean that is a tough room right there so i got in there and got some pops out of that entire thing felt like i was

on top of the world and then rich rod will come up immediately afterwards and did i get a rap I mean, he is. He's so funny, dude. His brain, football wise and motivation wise is just always, he's all, we'd see him 5 a.m. He's on the fucking stepper, the stepping machine or whatever. Cavs just outrageous. Pop, just right through. We're working out down there 6 a.m. with Barwis, which is maybe the greatest strength coach of all time. He's getting people with paralysis to walk now. I mean, just like, so honored to know him, but he was. I mean, that shit was not. That was, that was, that was some, those were some tough days. Those were some very tough mornings there. When you're questioning a lot of things, a lot of things,

football, fuck this sport. I could go play soccer again right now. I stopped soccer because I didn't want to run. And now I'm going through the hardest work. Is this the hardest workout in the United States of America. I think this might be the actual most difficult workout on a regular basis in the United States of America. I didn't even lift going in in high school. I didn't even lift. That's wild to me. You're thrown into that after. I know you said you kicked and everything in high school, but you joined the team basically for games. Like the fact that you had nothing and then you get thrown into a rich rot team with Barwist as the strength coach. Like yeah, like you pretty much they threw in the toughest spot you probably could. And I'll tell you what, right mindset. I always,

I always try to enjoy everything as much as possible, but boy, there were some days where I was like, I'm not supposed to be here, no way. And teammates, the tightness, whenever you go through that together, hard. When you go through hard together, it really does bring you. You know, it brings you together.

So I got faith in this West Virginia team. A lot of new faces, a lot of new bodies, but I think that soul is always going to be the same if Rich Rod is the coach. The Toxic Table was here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, are you a little bit worried, you know, that that coach is back

in football in a big way listen to the way he speaks would you ever hear Kirk Farrant's talk like you're talking about polar opposite type of personalities similar coaching styles though do you believe?

Yeah so you don't ever hear Kirk say anything like that in like the media and he'll never really get he doesn't give reporters really anything but if you watch Kirk on the sidelines like he still gets fiery he'll still motherfucker you know an assistant coach or the

referee but I mean what's it like this Ryan day just won Ryan day seems like a pretty intense guy yeah you know seems like a pretty intense dude I do wonder what his day to day is like because I think you have to be in our sport I think you have to be pretty attention to detail however you can't let anything slip you can't let anything slip and that goes as far as like your assistant coaches too like that's a big thing like how you coach your assistants they have to know the standard and what it is and that's the thing like it's exhausting to do that thing about rich rock that's exhausting to not let anything slip like you can be walking by at any like anytime to see the tiniest thing and if you want like yeah even though it might seem tiny like yeah

we can't have that like we have to change this pick up the fucking straw wrapper put it in the fucking trash can yeah i don't know why i left there yep you're 100% of it wasn't mine i don't think but yeah it's hard to explain that to young people sometimes so as a young kid it's easy to be like well no what do you think you think of uh third and two's gonna care if i threw my tape away today like that's funny honestly it all it's all connected it does matter it doesn't show up till it shows up that's like the that is literally what it is it doesn't show up till it shows up and i don't want to point out what happened with the colts last year with the fumble in the half yard line and everything else like that but it's like there are signs that things were not operating how you know winning

teams operate i'm not just pointing out one particular team this happens throughout a year for a lot of teams you see things that are happening it's like how you do anything so you do everything if that's happening what else is happening and if it if you're seeing this now that Is it going to show up in the biggest moment? Probably. Like, that is normally how it all works out. And, yeah, I'm very pumped for college football to start. I'm starting to get, like, very excited about it.

Now, this also brings back college kickers. Let's be nice. Remember, it's not easy to kick. We showcase that every single weekend on college game day. Hard to kick. Actually, with the kickers, cool story tonight with Nebraska, that punter. Ozzie.

Who went viral for, you know, like, not seeing his family and everything. I guess they flew over like a bunch of his friends and his family A bunch of blokes Yeah, a bunch of the blokes are going to be there in Kansas City Good blokes coming over there I love to hear that He also one of the guys he can kick with both feet

So I guess that that was One of the storylines of the offseason Young guy 18 years old which I appreciate I like that he's 18 You know because there has been some situations Where 30 year olds are coming over You know to colleges to kick In like 17 year old Americans

are obviously not going to get scholarships over 30-year-old ex-professional, full family, know how to be an adult, very consistent. Ozzy, who I love, I'm not, listen, it was an opportunity you're allowed to take it and everything. I'm just saying that was happening there for a bit. So that was an interesting dynamic and a little bit of a change. But I think the Aussies have brought great things into Bunny. So I'm not judging. I'm just saying that was the situation that I think it's happening right now again with Hawaii and everything like that.

But I love that it's an opportunity and everything. But this kid 18 years old, so he's like committing life to this now. You know, like, all the other guys, Ozzy Rules football players, great sport. Electrifying sport. One, it's all the Brisbane Lions. He's had their awards last night. Congress all the boys that won their AFL awards. New MVP was crowned.

Toughest guy was crowned. Yeah, champion of all that stuff. But a lot of those guys were coming from Ozzy Rules football into American football to kick. So it's a little bit of an adjustment, different ball, different strategies. They're doing a lot of passing to each other. So they're very accurate, very good. control. They actually have a kick whenever they're growing up. So the way they punt the ball, obviously different than an American style. Him as an 18-year-old doing American football

feels like he probably concentrated a little bit more on the American style, which is cool that we've gotten to that continent because that's a very cool place. I think they would like football a lot if it became bigger over there. They're going to try to take a game there. That's far away. That's a far away. But like a Nebraska kid, yeah, 18 years old can go. I think he's a talent. Do they know going into the punt if he's going right or left foot it? I would assume his team would know if he's 18, like this is freshman year. So maybe rules giving him check, like he can check as a freshman. And that would be insane if he could be like, hey, we're rolling right on this one,

like tapping his leg, making an adjustment out there. Maybe next year I would assume that it would take place or maybe throughout the year. But I would assume his team knows the other team would not. But, you know, I do have a little bit of a take on that. There's definitely a more dominant leg. And, you know, this is kind of like the conversation. do we want it like show hey with pitching and hitting it's like do we want to sacrifice the development of definitely a bombing leg whichever one is the one for mixed hits on the off leg

because there's definitely going to be one leg that's stronger than the other it's like how much do you want to do that or do you use it as a curveball like hey this is or it could just be your non-domin it could be an emergency situation hey we drop the snap whatever this guy's rushing all over I got to kick this one left exactly you can have a fire fire situation or you could use it an advantage, you know, because having probably two returners, so now you've got only nine up, so that takes a little bit of pressure off a lot of people.

You can maybe run fakes off of it if you're able to go both directions. Probably not going to run a rush, probably going to be a lot of stand if you guys go in both ways. So that is a weapon, I think. But personally, I would not want to sacrifice the development of the one, because if he's going to make it, he's going to have to have

a very, very, very dominant one. There's only 32 jobs, and it's I think he has the talent, all the talent in the world. I'm very excited to watch him. And once I learn more about his story, it's like, this is a guy. This is a real deal. And there's a lot of those. And I think something to watch tonight, something Nebraska wants to do is just get the ball off.

I believe they had eight kicks blocked last season, which was one of, I think, the worst in college football. They brought in a new special teams coordinator. So I think they're just trying to get that ball off. Yeah, and if you have a punter going both directions, you might take the heat off the blocks a little bit. That might save eight blocks. So, jeez. You weren't here. Did you hear the story about the Japanese

field goal kicker from Hawaii? No. Okay, so he hit the game winner last week against Stanford. I think he's 24 or 25. He was introduced to American football and then he learned how to kick by watching YouTube videos, went to a Juko, I think in Wisconsin or Minnesota, somewhere in the Midwest,

didn't want to go somewhere where anyone spoke Japanese because he wanted to learn the language and then signs on with Hawaii kicks a game winner. That's a pure ball right there. Yeah, learned how to kick. from YouTube. I love that. Legge. Yes. That is magic. I mean, that's what technology

and the advancements of everything, making the world smaller, really shines a light on how good things can be, too. How would he ever be introduced to our sport or this opportunity? He hits a pure ball right there, too. That's a huge moment there for Hawaii. Beating Stanford? You know, you hear Stanford people talk. It's like, if we can't beat

Hawaii, we're in trouble in this entire thing. Would love Hawaii to get back to be a great team. That's a pure ball in a massive moment. And what is freshman, sophomore? Oh, that's a good question. I think I saw like his second or third year of eligibility, but it's just like that kid who

was racing, they made a movie about him. He was just like an online virtual racer. And then he became a real race car driver and, you know, whatever, not Formula 1, but with a Forza, Motorsport, whatever the hell it is. He went from video game in his entire

rig in his house and then he got signed to a team and then he became a professional driver. Kansai Matsuzawa Kansai Matsuzawa is a senior all right so we know that previous school Hawking College

High School It's in Ohio Makahari Sogo High School All right well good luck brother Hey we love that story ball kicking positions Good entry point for our sport

To a lot of countries You know rugby Gaelic football I think even has some kicking in it Obviously soccer Ozzie rules football Union rugby Seven's rugby

There's a lot of different styles Rugby I don't want to get them all right because they all have their own very passionate fan bases who think the other sport is not as good as theirs. Sure. A lot of rugby people saying, Ozzy Rose ain't to real

spoke, Mike, you got to come down here at rugby a lot of people have no respect for the other sport. Okay. It's like the isn't rugby down there? New Zealand and Australia, isn't that there? Yes. Yeah, NRL, I guess there's a massive ordeal down there. Is one F1 and one of them at NASCAR? I know they have a robbery.

So I think it's more regional, like hockey. You know how like there's hockey times? I think there's like Ozzie rules football is across the south. I think if I remember from the conversation, more of the southern part of the continent has Osirals football and then rugby kind of

more so the middle and the top. I believe if I was remembering the conversation I had after about two hours of sleep correctly, you know, if I am all digesting it properly. But I went to one of those Ozzie rules football games over there is electric. It was like a European soccer game.

it was like that was the vibe always up always energy there's action happening really far from us because the field so far people still engaged drinking no 4x you know i had about 15x field is huge field is absolutely gigantic but the vibes are awesome posted about going to it and i got a bunch of Aussie hey sport mike rugby i don't even fucking follow that's why there might not be many fatsos in australia because the sports that they play are there's really no constant movement yeah there's no fatso positions in They got to run a lot. And these dudes are big, too, and they're running a lot.

You don't see a lot of, like, uh... Oh, no, they're jacked. All of them. And all of them seemingly hilariously handsome. They got, like, some ridiculous look. Yeah. Like, they all, it is... It's a cool sport.

McCluggage. Yeah. He got named Australia, I think. Yeah. I mean, he's a dog. I've been saying it for years now since the pandemic, really. He's what got me into the Brisbane lines. I think it was episode 7.09, maybe, like, hour 40 minutes in.

They played it. Really? Yeah, they played the clip. Seriously, that's awesome. And then they said, the guy who was standing two feet in front of me, he go, that's Hugh McCluggage. And I was like, Hugh, dog. Huge fan. We loved you.

It was a cool moment. It was a cool moment. McCluggage. Charlie Cameron, it was his 250th game. He had Country Roads is his song. That's sweet. Yeah, that was awesome. I guess there was some negativity about goal songs after goals.

I guess this might be something new. I don't know. I was just trying to follow the social network response. and because I saw people saying I saw one tweet that seemingly had a lot of attention that was like for those who don't like the songs after goals or whatever

since must be a new thing listen to this in Brisbane and it was the entire place singing country roads it was fucking sick I was so happy I was sitting there just having a good old time Charlie Cameron scores 250

if he was very nice to meet at practice it was nice to talk to him what a talent I think I remember watching him back whenever we were watching the entire thing so then he scores I'm like happy for him my dude and then all a sudden, and it starts playing.

I'm like, Andre Road. Wait a minute. Holy fuck, man. You know, and First Sergeant Gartland, who's also from Plumborough, Pittsburgh area,

he also has had friends that have gone to West Virginia. He understood, and we just, holy shit, and the whole 35,000 plus just singing it. And that was a cool moment.

It was electrifying in there. Brisbane gets a big win over the Hawthorne Hawks. I'll tell you what, they were not happy with the officials, which there were many. A lot of, a lot of,

a lot of refs. Yeah. Makes sense. Figure 10, very large field. What kind of calls do they make? Are there penalties? How's that? When the ball goes out off of who? When's the throw? When's the start?

I don't think I fully comprehend when what is happening. Because every once in a while, I was blow the whistle and the ball go to the other team. And it's like, well, that looks pretty standard. And then every once in a while they blow a whistle and there'd be people pissed. So I'd be trying to figure out what people are pissed. Like, is that Hawthron people that are mad about what just happened?

And then 35, 45 seconds later. Because there is, you know, like in soccer, we've heard from the soccer players, when they're flopping around, It's not just like they're flopping around. It's also like, hey, take a breather, boys. We're running like seven miles here. This is a little bit of a dramatic moment for us to have a timeout

when we don't really have a timeout. Feels like that happens a little bit in Ozzy rules. Whenever there's a catch and the whistle's blown and they got like 30 seconds. That thing was at zero multiple times. 30 second countdown clock, zero. And this guy's halfway in his run-up still. It's like, okay, so this is a little bit of like the... Yeah, you can kind of, let's get a little bit of a breather here.

I'll tell you what, if they're off ball, they're really handy. And by handsy, I mean beating this shit out of each other. Danny Zork. I think Zorks, Danny Zork. They were calling him Zorks. I don't know if his last name was Zorks or not. It was his 300th game.

0.8% of Osirals football players make it to 300 games. They were honoring this guy. They had 4x bottles with him on. T-shirts on, signs outside were him. Right before the game starts. They're on the field. about to do the bouncing center. Half a second, maybe two seconds before the game starts,

he's at one of the ends. Guy from the other team punches him in the throat. Right in the throat. He's fucking this. Literally as the... Can you do that? I don't know. I don't know.

And then the guy from the other team, like, starts, like, pushing him. Like, while he's doing, like, they start pushing him. Like, it was this guy's night. Like, literally they're fucking doing the entire thing. Maybe it's the badge of honor. Maybe it's like, hey, 300th game. We got to punch him. Right for the game starts.

Got punched him right in the fucking threat. It was right in front of me, because I saw it happen. I'm like, God, they're so cheeky behind. That is such like a cheap move right there. But everybody just kind of does it, I think, from what we learned from watching. Like, they're punching each other, getting up, and it's like, well, I'm going to get you next to. And they do. And it's like, that's kind of how the game is played.

Duke got punched right in the throat. It was his night. And Zorko just kept going. That's why Zorkel's a quote. I think Zorkel did take a moment, though. I would assume so. I was, I was like, because I saw somebody get hit. they were so far away, I didn't know who it was.

And then I was watching them, like, for the first couple minutes in the game, like, really struggle. And then he got closer. I was like, that's fucking Zorgs? That's the guy we're honoring. And I guess he probably should have expected that. Oh, yeah, big celebration. Boom, just right to the throat. It was crazy. That's going to hurt. It was so crazy.

They had a guy. They had a guy on the other team. He was number 18. I forget his name. His first quarter, he was unbelievable. First quarter, it was clear that Brisbane just needed to stop this fucking guy. This guy's fucking, bingo. I'm like, how is this guy just allowed to just walk around right now? Like, we are not checking this guy through the boards right?

What do we, can we not help this? This guy took over the first quarter. And I had a couple Hawthor and Hawks fans around me. I'm like, is this fucking, is this the guy, is this the greatest player of all time? Was it Mavia Chul? Cho, yeah, he came up through the Brisbane Academy. He's from Brisbane. Then he goes to Hawthor and Hawks.

The Hawthor and Hawks fans tell me he's hit or miss. When he's on, he's the guy. when he's off it's nothing it's nothing and he was on there for that first quarter we didn't see him the next three quarters though that's classic that's classic classic yeah brisbane lions though they i think they shut them down a little bit i mean i assume the boys once they saw the replay of zorco getting punched in the throat and getting pushed over they're like no not on zorkel's night kai looman had two big goals kai lohm and had great mallet great flow nice he showed up at set the next day oh nice two goals nice you guys need you guys you guys

You guys need another role here? I'm sitting there in the middle of the entire scene. I look over. Good game last night, guy. Proud of you, buddy. Oh, Lleman's got good flow. Great flow. A lot of moxie, too.

When he showed up, everybody had to look. You know, like, geez, what the fuck is that? Did the other Aussies who were working there say, like, holy fuck? There he is. I'm fucking rugby, Mike. Oh, yeah. That's where I learned the... The beef.

Yeah, that's where I learned the entire thing. Yeah. Because there's a lot of Ozies. There's extras. There was Aussie production people, audio people. like everybody basically was a lot of people yeah so they were so cool man the Aussie human is a good one that's i think a genuinely a good tough i think they're all kind of tough all seemingly have personality and i don't think they really they're not about the fuck about

much you know i think it's a i think it's very much straight to it yeah the food a j i'm still worried to eat i'm like very worried that my my entire inside's going to be destroyed i'm still I'm still very angry about that entire conversation, but that's okay. Yeah, I didn't expect you to get riled up. Dude, it is the thing. Then he pointed out like that I should be bad. I'm like, I guess I should be. I can't.

I was bummed out that we don't have it, but it didn't move me to anger. Yeah, but it was very nice to just be able to go. I appreciate you kind of separating that. It did move me to anger to clarify. You sit down at a cafe in Brisbane. I don't know what it is everywhere. I'm just talking about Brisbane. And it's just like everything you're ordering is like the nicest quality.

of whatever the coffee the eggs the bacon the fucking potatoes the sweep it to everything the granola the asailles everything is just like good yeah everything's like the freshest of quality love that and the pizza it's everything we tried our best to feel like shit we're gonna go eat the fried stuff and it turns out it was all healthy for that's a certain oil that is like healthier than everything else and it's like oh am i have we been doing it wrong i'm not gonna say that sounds like it no we definitely have like you no i'm not saying What are they cooking with ghee? Are they cooking with ghee?

You know, I didn't ask enough. I was certainly, I was certainly talking and trying to learn as many stories as possible, but I didn't catch the broth that they were cooking in. No, I know steak and shake puts their new fries in that beef tallow. I don't know how much they're doing that in Australia, but they might be. I mean, there was fries over there. Pretty good. You know where they do lack?

I will say outside of Tim Thames, their sweets suck. Okay. Yeah, we went into sweets. Another reason. we're pumping really another reason everyone's fit really good stuff yeah i guess that is another damn it yeah see they can't win the sugar battle against us because we're fucking we're cool with whatever going yeah that's what really stinks and now i'm thinking about it in my head because i'm like trying to think of like what restaurants in india are the freshest you know what has the best well i think it's

debones's kitchen yeah you're probably right you need to head the de bones kitchen last night we got a life tip from debone we do hope these become a regular thing boy society fucking needs it Cooking tip, he says, if you don't know, put frozen pizza in oven while it preheats to get a head start, of course, opposed to waiting for the oven to reach desired temperature. Hashtag, life hack, hashtag, you're welcome, says DeBone. Now, we all know what happened here, because we are humans that exist in the same world as DeBone. He sets the preheat, stands there for 30 seconds, says, I'm not fucking coming back here. Yeah. I'm putting it in now.

and then I'm going to walk away a little bit too lazy to take another trip back to the oven but also in my mind getting a head start that's right getting a head start and then whenever he gets it out of the oven

probably earlier than it's supposed to be he actually likes it that way I like a little softer I like a little soft wasn't that he couldn't wait any longer yeah no it wasn't that he couldn't wait out early why did he have to get out so early well I think he just looked at it

look at the pepperoni shining so let me go ahead and buy but the individual cheese slices didn't melt so he's giving out Lifehacks on how most people do operate that, you know, maybe are a little bit laser. I would consider myself one of these people. Whenever I saw this as a life hack, I thought to myself, is this the first time that he has made a frozen pizza? And then he assures us that, no, this is a lot.

And he's certainly right. That is not the first time he's made a frozen pizza. He was shocked when I told him, like, I know you like a little softer, like that crunch you've been getting. Like, you don't have to eat the cardboard underneath the pizza, too. Like, if you can just eat the pizza on its own, it's not one piece. Yeah, because it does come together, especially if it's soggy on the bottom because you put it in whenever it was 100 degrees. Exactly. And you only got it cooked for however short of time.

Right. You can see how he can confuse that. Correct. He folds it into the pizza and it's just cardboard four and a half. He's like, wow, cooked it good to that. It doesn't look right, but I mean, I guess. Love D-Bone. Okay.

Truly love D-Bone. feels like this is the fattest fucking thing i've ever heard someone what are you talking about it's a life back and i know and i know it's a life back and the reason i think it's okay is because i am 40% sure now he used to just eat the frozen pizzas frozen just so you like that he at least heats him up a little i think he is taking steps he's told us it was a pizza popsicle that was round that's what i mean like i think he used to just chomp on these fucking frozen pizzas like they were the you know cookie ice creams and he was just just loving it.

And now he's decided, I could fucking heat it up a little and then I can eat the cardboard. He did tell us that he used to just he'd eat just frozen hot dogs. Not kidding. This is no, I'm not reading.

He did say that. Like, I don't need to eat it. Sucking on him like the job breakers. Frozen crinkle fries. He says all these things with such a straight face. You never know what's a work and what's a shoot. And we still don't because he put out a tweet. Make sure to like and comment below.

If you guys want to see more cooking. tips in our future. Laugh moody. We don't know if it's a worker or a shoot. I don't think DeBone knows, but we do know we need more life hacks from this young lad. Without a doubt. He's experienced a lot of life. So whenever he's chit-chat about it, we need

to listen. Yeah, allegedly he's got a real good one with Kill Sock. I think he's doing it later as far as when he's going to unveil that life hack. What's that? A Killsock? Yeah. I'm still not sure. I'm waiting for him to explain it to me. But that is why I'm excited for. Yeah.

Okay. Sounds like this is something you do know. I swear, I don't The way you delivered it Was as if it was something A little bit I think I made a few jokes Back at the old office About all the kill socks

Around my own apartment But I'm pretty sure Are those the superstarty ones Well, no, those are See, I'm pretty sure I was using it in a different term In what DBO Are you talking about delivering seed

To these things, boy? That is what I think D-Bone is alleging, yes Foxy, is this what's happening In your department? What the hell is going on? No, but I'm expecting chicken nuggets will be

D-Bones thing. That is my prediction. You should put ketchup thing about this with each chicken nuts. I don't even think he would even do that. You're right. I was just reminded of your growth though. You just talking about that because you used to spit on your walls. Yeah, exactly. It's just just in the middle of my

bedroom. The landlord is so happy. That house is the biggest shit hole. You guys should have been condemned out of that house. If we're going to get into this, the landlord was a piece of shit because Half the time when I was sleeping in my room, all I heard was fucking mice under my bed running around. Yeah, the pub was certainly dead long before you guys were out.

He ended up kicking us out. I thought that was bullshit too. Yeah. He saved your lives. I try to buy it every now and then. Reminis. Say, how you doing to see you? How you do?

No, you're not. Is it still standing? Oh, yeah, still standing. I mean, the stop sign is still there, too. I mean, that's what that, look, I'm a pretty good painter. That's what that is. And I went back and checked and it looks just like that still. That's Zito's old car.

Zito's Kia. Okay. Oh, that's the front porch and beer bottles. Yeah. Yeah. Smokes. There's no sigs. And the football stuff, though?

Oh, they're in that. Yeah, we were. There's also P-State right there. I do remember that football. Yeah, there is a little bit of them. This is a painting of you, like, looking out the window or staying on the porch? Yeah, it's where my bedroom was. There's nothing in the front hall, so I had to hang up two curtains.

And I slept on. Wait to zoom out. to zoom back in folks it's really getting well I was going to get Connor and then I was like wait we're talking about the paintings Ken Burns effect on that yeah that stop sign back there was a good display strength for a football throw very fun doing that was a good

time that place was disgustingly terrible though so bad yeah all right let's uh before we get out of here we got to cover the shit that we should cover because we're a sports show hell yeah you know what time it is AJ what time is it's 238 Eastern about to be 23 now and uh it's the perfect

time to do the news. Don't you think age? I think it is a perfect time. Let's do the news. Whatever you're not covered? Go ahead, Connie. Here we go. We go. Start Indianapolis, actually. Chris Ballard yesterday gave a speech kind of about Anthony Richardson after making Danny Dimes, which I believe, you know, you call them a dog earlier. I feel like Danny Doberman

might have legs. But he gave a press conference about it. Here it is. We knew it was going to be a little bit of a roller coaster. Absolutely. I mean, you know, just his history in college. And so that's just part of the growth. No, you've got to, sometimes you've got to take a swing.

We took a swing. And look, I'm not ready to say that we missed because I don't think we have yet. I think Anthony has a bright future. I believe that. Okay, so he's chit-chatting about Anthony Richardson and the swing that they took on. And obviously, Danny Dimes being named the starter. So Anthony is yet again relegated to a backup role. This is obviously following multiple years of injuries, not a lot of football,

some magical moments that showcase a great, athleticism, but then some moments that make you think this guy doesn't owe ball. I'm intrigued by it all. Danny Doberman, a guy, these Colts got a shot? What are your expectations, AJ? Honestly, the Danny Doberman, I mean, that might have a little bit of a ring to it. I'm not completely so. I think Danny Dimes could absolutely be a guy.

I really do. I think he could have the whole, you know, revitalize his career at Indy. But I guess the only thing that's not going in his favor is that they've tried this for, what, the last six, seven years with different quarterbacks and just hasn't worked out yet. but maybe Danny Dimes can be the guy to turn around. There's a lot of people's jobs relying on this, don't you think? It's been a long time of this, this whole thing. Quentin Nelson's entire career, basically.

He's been out. He's bummed on. He's a couple of quarterbacks bummed out ago. You know, but hey, maybe this is the one. Exactly. Maybe. Maybe this is the one. I think it is. And Chris Ballard, I think so, too, tone.

To Chris Ballard's point, Anthony Richardson is going to get an opportunity. We assume Danny Dimes is not going to be able to play all 17 games. There's a chance that Anthony Richardson plays. And if he plays good, who knows what the future looks like for him. But it's like understanding all of the quarterback's roles, leadership, knowing what to do, checks, audibles, all that. You heard Chris Bowdo in a press conference also talk about what Danny Dimes can do with the play, what he can do at the line, put us in the right position, put us in the right play. You heard that be said a couple times. and it's like well he's a veteran so hopefully his experience will help him

and hopefully Anthony Richardson will be able to gain some experience by watching him and hopefully this team that has a lot of talent on it there's a lot of talent on this team a lot of money been spent on this team maybe they're able to get a go but the quarterback you know conversation is certainly going to be loud throughout the entire season and if it doesn't go well for the Colts I think it's all going to look very different next year yeah I mean that's the big thing is hey let's see it because if we don't see it guess what we're going to be seeing a whole lot of new faces in Indiana I think there is a chance that that's on the horizon now I don't know

obviously we haven't seen the three daughters as owners yet we don't know exactly how they're going to operate everything that they do is setting a new precedent but carly ursay at her press conference was like we're not just trying to win games we're trying to be the best and everybody knows what the standard is we have not lived up to that standard they have the opportunity still do as such and it's like that sounds like hey we need a roll here or we're going to try to redo this I'll be excited to see how it all plays out but if it's another year of disappointment here I think you got to you know nobody likes to do that but it's at some seven years of just

question marks and then like hey we have a good team we spent a lot of money well actually we don't because we don't have the one position that we need we spent a fourth overall pick on a guy who's the most athletic guy maybe to ever coming to the league well he just can't figure it out it's just a never ending

oh no and then Gardner Minchu almost leads the team to the playoffs Shane Seichen's a genius anybody that Shane Seikin has is going to be successful we'll bring in Flacco he just brought the Browns to the playoffs he doesn't do well it's like oh no what is wrong I assume Ballard's asking the same questions. You know, I assume he's wondering what the hell is going on.

But there's a chance this year. I, as always with every year. Looking at that schedule, that's a four-and-two start for sure for the Colts. You win a couple of those home games. You know, you get the Dolphins, you get Tennessee, you get Vegas, and you get Arizona. That's a four-and-two football team. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, super positive.

And the Dolphins, what was Stanford Steve's stat that he sent that makes Dolphins fans feel good? Just 2-0 when he's healthy. They're good, kind of what everybody knows. No, I thought there was another one. It had to be more complex than that. I mean, I don't think so. I think that's what he sent me. Had to be a nutter one.

There was some with a little more context. Gumpie read the thing and said, thanks, Stanford, Steve. That's definitely what happens. Best win percentage last two seasons among all quarterbacks with 20 starts, when two starts. That's good. Yeah.

Best ever. Best old line he's probably ever had. are the Dolphins back Secondary of some questions We signed some guys But I'm quietly optimistic all of a sudden We'll find out week one won't we It's been a long time since Colts have won on week one as well

Yeah it's not really our thing But coming down in a lot house, good luck We are underdogs We are under dogs That's Danny Doberman football Is Waller playing? Waller said he is good to go Although he hasn't practiced

Or taking a snap He's a problem 18 What's he doing if he hasn't practiced or taking a snap? Just getting ready, getting back into football shape. Okay.

Would be there week one? He'll be ready to go, yeah. I mean, both those teams, shit, they both need one. That's what's kind of sweet about this year is that there's just teams that feel like that are on there. Hey, if this isn't the year,

it's getting blown up. Instead of in past years where, like I think last year was the, what, eight new head coaches. And now this year, it's like, hey, there could be eight new head coaches because Arizona you could throw them in. Giants, Colts, Arizona.

Cool. Dolphins. There's four right there. That are just like, hey, let's see. We're going to have to see it. Or this shit's coming to an end. And that's just the nature of the beast. I mean, you could argue LaFleur after what Schneiderman said yesterday.

Yeah, and Goots Coons. And Goots Coons, yeah. Yeah, head policy's coming in and taking after Carman policy and saying, listen, there's a new sheriff in time. And it's me. Yeah. That's five teams. Not quite the same, but if the Cowboys have a really bad year,

could see them getting rid of Shottie and reopening that up. Yeah, similar to that, like the Titans, if the GM thinks he's, you know, Cam Ward's a generational talent, and then, you know, Callahan and them, they end up going, he looks like shit and everything. You could see the Titans, maybe. I mean, after the Patriots did the one and done,

I mean, there's been other teams, but after they did the one and done last year, I feel like now it's possible for anyone just to say, fuck it if the right guy's available. Ah, wild world. All right, let's do some more news. What else have we not talked about, ConMay? A team that is not looking for a head coach would be the Detroit Lions. Last week, MCDC said, hey, look, this is the best team we've had top to bottom,

which everyone kind of knew once they released Skipper. John Skip, Skip, Skip, Skip. But actually, what MCD, yeah, he got released. Skip back. Skip back. Skip's back. I'm just saying, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. We all know Skip, even though we probably all shouldn't know Skip.

So you know how much that means to MCDC. So I figured, look, if they feel good enough. enough to release him. Probably has some good players. But they did mention MCDC said, hey, look, there's a chance Pan A Sewell could play tight end. Fox, could you run that video, please?

There is nothing he can't do. I've said this before. If we just made him a tight end, I think he'd be a Hall of Fame tight end. It's crazy. I mean, he is a freakish athlete, just nimble, nimble athletic. Is there one thing over a couple years

with him that you're like, damn, only he can do that? Well, I would answer, only he can do everything. Yeah. And that's probably would be my answer. There is no limitation on him. Like, there's things, you know, whether it's the screen game, it's the run game, as you talk about, the one-on-ones, turn the whole protection, just let him go one-on-one. Jumbo, make him a jumbo tight-in.

Let him throw, hand him a reverse. And it's one of those things. It's no different than you do with, like we do with our personal. Man, we got St. Brown. You got Jammell, you got Gibbs. But, like, he's very much a part of that. Like, he allows us to do so much schematically. That's really, you know, he's part of this secret sauce, man.

We can do a lot. We can do the G. We can do the wide zone scheme. We can do Gap. We can do the pin and pull. We can do crack tosses. I mean, and that's really because of him. And you usually get a front row seat of seeing him speed bump a DB.

Oh, my gosh, fast. You're not going to maneuver out of his way. What was that? Was that a bug on the windshield? A few moments later. I think you caught the ball on, like, the right side. line last year and you were doing you were like making moves like for real so yeah that one was against chicago i was supposed to throw it but you're not stepping out of bounds no i told coach i

was like yeah it's the only time i get the ball so i'm gonna keep it as long i know you guys want me to throw it away but i'm gonna try to make some shout to the green light podcast chris long obviously super bowl champion multiple time getting great interviews up there in detroit i love how much mcdc openly loves his player now that was the first draft pick of this error right yes sir okay all I can think of that entire time is when Penny's deal is up like he just said our entire offense goes

because of this guy so they're just going to have to pay him the most that's ever been paid and just one million more than the most has ever been paid and let's just move on because of that glowing endorsement and who knows how Penny will handle all that but what a perfect first draft pick whenever you're trying to set a culture AJ it sounds like they got it right up there

oh they definitely got it right and just listen to Dan Campbell say he can legit do everything like how many offensive line there are that big can move like that. I think people like casual fans will be surprised to see how athletic some of these big dudes really are. Most of them in the NFL, a lot of D-Lyman

played running back in high school. We're on the four-by-one track team. Like they did all kind of stuff. They're much more athletic than people think, but Penae Seul is like a different level to that. Like, how would you cover what do you do? What's the one thing he does that you think nobody else can do that? Well, I'd answer that

by saying everything. He can do everything. That was a great answer by MCDC in the moment. Brain always firing. That is tough to account for. That's tough to account for when you've got a 360-pound guy. Hot Foxy, you guys love them up there as they? So. Absolutely love him. Fan favorite. He was one of the pillar pieces that changed this whole thing. Like you said, our first draft pick. And then in that same class was St. Brown. They did pay both those guys already, made St. Brown the highest paid wide receiver at that time at the Detroit draft right before it.

And then same with Sewell, highest-paid lineman. And to your point, they're just going to have to pay him again, make him the highest-paid people. but that same draft class is where Micah Parsons was picked as well. And it feels like that was so long ago that they paid those guys and we're still dealing with this Micah Parsons shit. So was on the second year of his new deal. And he was drafted the same year as Micah. And you hear how Jerry's talking about Maka. And you hear how MCD's he's talking about Penny.

It's like one really, really, really loves each other. One seemingly perfect draft pick. Yeah, and that's why it's like the lions are the one team that are in prime position to screw over Jerry even more. Like, they should pay Hutch right now. Yeah. And then see what happens with Mika in Dallas because if they play Hutch before Micah, I mean, that could actually blow the whole thing up.

The only thing is that it could come back and fuck them because then Jerry will say, oh, okay, and send him to Green Bay so that they have to play against him twice. I kind of like that scenario. You like Detroit pissing off, Jared? Yeah. So Jerry's saying, NFC North, huh? Oh, really? Okay.

Well, congratulations. I watched the first three minutes of that documentary. Tone Diggs basically forced me to watch it because you need to watch the Cowboys one. They're calling it the best sports documentary of all time, brother. Awesome. I mean, when you have Michael, like, I've talked about Michael Irvin and all the personalities, like, those guys know how to tell a story. And they do a great job editing everything together.

I thought it was great. Yeah, just the first three minutes, him talking about, you know, how much production he had with the oil business because it's gambling and only the Lord knows. what's down there. You're going miles down into earth, and only God knows what's down there. She got to get lucky. And he said, something about his mouth could get him more borrowed money than he could make. He was $50 million in debt. His wife was calling his father-in-law, wondering about how he's going to make it. Is this guy going to be okay? He thought he's going to die. Then one rig came along, $800,000. As soon as he went in there, it coughed a little bit. You know,

it is a living spirit. It breathed. Spit like a mammal. And then I heard it start to hiss, and that thing was screaming. I made $100 million off that one rig. What about it? Said, Jerry, you just bought the Dallas Cowboys. I knew exactly what I wanted to do with that money. Good for him. There's a bunch of that.

The best part, the reason people I think, at least, are saying it's the greatest documentary of all time, is just because all of the interviews. That was the toughest part about the SEC show, is that the characters that kept popping up in that show weren't the main characters of what we were talking about. Like when Michael Irvin and Troy Aikman and Dion and Jerry and Jimmy Johnson are the ones that are basically the whole show. I mean, Charles Haley, he comes in for sure during it.

They tell a great story about how when he wanted more money, he walked into Jerry's office, pulled his dick out and pissed on the GM's desk and then left, and then he got paid. So a lot of people were saying do that, Micah. But just the entire kind of backstory with Jerry is Charles Haley walked into Jerry Jones' office. You'll get there. Walked in Jerry Jones office, stood on the desk, took his dick out, took a piss, left, and got a new deal. But actually, now that we're... I kind of like what he did.

It was like a four-minute piss, too. It was how he got out of San Francisco. It's how he got to the Cowboys. That's what I was about to say. He did that in San Francisco, then got traded to the Cowboys. Oh, it wasn't Jerry's... I forget if it was a San Fran situation, yeah. But that's how he got out.

And then, Micah could do that, maybe. Charles Haley is a very He's a very unique human being He's watched the dock twice Yeah definitely want to listen It's awesome It's so good man I started it again

And like you said That clip at the start It just pulled me back in I was like fuck it I'm watching this all over again It's so good man All right I can't wait to watch I'm gonna die

Because it's a lot about that Niners team too With like Jerry Rice and Steve Young as well It tells their story along Carmi policy Yeah Ed's fodder I was unaware of the entire Jimmy Johnson stuff and if that happened nowadays, people would lose their minds.

Yeah, the beef. Two Super Bowl wins. Yeah, and then. That story's incredible. Yeah. Fighting with the owner going in, fighting with the owner of the week of the Super Bowl, like in the media too,

like both of them saying things about each other. Like, it was a weird time? They had that moment at the Hall of Fame. Was that two years ago? Yeah. Where Troy was kind of. They're back. Yeah,

it's really cool. How they're back now finally. Yeah, that was, I don't think until that day did I realize that it was as big as it was. And then you could tell, Troy was like, this isn't a TV show. We finally got these two at the same table. Hey, can we potentially do this entire thing?

Big hugs. You know, we did a lot together. Because the players were mad too. They loved Jimmy. And they were pissed off at Jerry for doing that. Yeah, like it makes a lot of sense now because Troy and Jimmy, Jimmy bench Troy for a Burline. And that's when after that season, Jimmy and Troy became like very close because then

Jimmy realized, like, oh, Troy is also as competitive as I am. And that's kind of when they became like a team. Because Jimmy Johnson talks about how one time a guy came off the field and he caught him on the spot during a game. And he said, you know, a lot of guys say, you know, releasing players is the hardest part of the job. Not for me. I don't care. And he, he, Jimmy Johnson.

Jimmy Johnson, yeah. It's that good. It's that candid. Like Jerry Jones talking about when he was suing the NFL in the NFL in the owners asked him to leave while they talked about him is very definitely another top of it. I can't wait to watch it. I'm going to do that. And then Barry

Switzer comes in. Yeah. And he doesn't give a fuck. It's awesome. Yeah, Switzer's the star. I think he's the best character. Cherry's the star, obviously, but Barry Switzer is fucking hilarious. Lightning Rod. He just, he did not care about anything, but

all the players loved him. Normally goes hand in hand. As long as you're as authentic as you are, like genuine, I think you're in a good spot. If you're fake, players hate you. That's like the biggest thing. If you are who you are all the time, players, like Rich Rod here, like we're talking about it. He was always like that. So it's like when you leave, you have a love for that and appreciation and respect it too. You can't just be a dick and not be respected. Like it's one thing to be a dick. If you're a coach that's like the hard driving dictator type coach and guys don't respect you, it's never going to work. Like they have to respect you.

as a man and as a coach. That's part of the whole thing. I was asked, no, I got a good story, but I'll save it for later. It's a good story. We'll save it for later. From set.

It was a good story. You know, because am I a method actor or not? Time will tell. Can't wait to find out. There's a lot of dudes. Daniel Day Lewis. So much like in real life at boot camp, I would assume.

Anytime the drill instructor is doing his thing, Like, the recruits were all thinking, like, can we beat him up? You know? Like, if push came to shove, could we beat him up? Drill instructor needs to let everybody know they can't. Like, you cannot. You would never be able to. Don't even fucking think it.

Natural human instinct, though, whenever you're getting yelled at by somebody, especially if you're trying to be a Marine, who probably have a little bit of a dog mentality, your natural threat is, I could beat the fuck out of this guy if I wanted to, especially with what's happening. That happened on set. The actor started wondering. like if they could fight me and i was like this is this is good this is exactly how it's supposed

to be you know like you are supposed to feel and also no i would meet the fuck out of you okay that is it was uh it was like a cool it felt like a real life you know like it really did because there was like uh you know there's like boot camp there's a fight scene in there and the drill instructor is telling them to fight each other and like i have to get i have to you're you're gonna have to fight like this is some so for some of these guys it's their first ever fight you know so like So, like, that's kind of the whole thing. And it's like, this really happened. This was real life that was taking place.

Like, hey, in six weeks from now, you're not just going to be here fighting somebody. This is knives, like, we are. Killing somebody. And combat is happening. So, like, you need to get punched in the face. Okay, that has to happen. You have to feel what this is like. But also, you have to be able to.

So there's a lot. That was a very intense day, I will say. And the things that I was saying to said actors, you know, in the moment to get them, you know, motivated go. It was funny just like in between takes, you know, like, they come off to me. Do you think any of us could fight you? When?

No. Absolutely not. And then First Sergeant Garland's like, none of you. He's like, he, because he's been an actual drill and try, it's like, that was like a real life moment. Like definitely like, I could see that happening very easily. And I like laughed because I got along

with all those dudes afterwards, but it's like on the set, it's like these dudes probably did were like fuck this guy like this is it was like a Stanford it was like a Stanford prison experiment yeah it was it felt like that in the middle of it and I was you know fucking I was acting as

such we have an update here from Adam Schaefter several teams have spoken to the Dallas Cowboys about a potential Michael Parsons trade and for the first time the Cowboys appear willing to at least listen sources tell Todd Archer and damn Oziano wow and Adam Schaefter wow

So, Ty Schmidt said yesterday, he said there's an offer on the table, and Jerry Jones just isn't ready to listen to it yet. Here we are about 26 hours later, and now allegedly, Cowboys are willing to listen. Ty, is that a zipper burn over there? Well, I'm not going to get ahead of myself. Not yet. I kind of have talked this into my head into thinking, like, hey, listen, Michael Parsons is going to be playing for the Packers' Week 1 against the Lions at home. It's going to happen. It's already a done deal.

So now if this is like open bidding, like don't, don't pussyfoot this around. Go do exactly what I said. 45, 50, 55, 60, whatever it takes, whatever it takes. Two first round picks, three first round picks, four first round picks. What? Maybe a couple second round pick. You're just saying everything.

Maybe a couple defensive starters. They got like Quay Walker. Ooh, add him in there. Okay, now you're shipping people out of town. Well, they did, that's what one of the things, Rabshy thought that they might want a starter as well. So like... There's an update here, Schaefter tweets.

The Cowboys would like to resolve the situation one way or another in the coming days with their season open next Thursday against the Eagles and the Cowboys hold their first full practice in preparation for the Eagles tomorrow. And, you know, he's getting a second opinion if you believe the photo from the airport, which who knows when that photos from, but everybody's saying it is him getting a second opinion, leaving town, yada, yada, yada.

Joining us now, ladies your gentleman, the man that broke that news, Adam Schaefter. Chefty, how you doing, brother? What's going on, guys? Reading your tweets as you're tweeting them. Micah Update, obviously, big deal. Jerry said in an interview, I believe, with Stephen A. Smith, don't listen to all the trade, BS.

I'm not with it. Then people were reporting that he wasn't even picking up the phone. There was allegedly a Packers trade kind of already created, but Dallas wouldn't listen. Now you're saying they're listening. Is this brand-new news in how quickly could this possibly come together? It's complicated because what would have to happen here is that another team would have to present a contract compelling enough to Micah to make him want to take it,

at which point that team then would have to go to Dallas to work out compensation. And I don't think they're at that level right now. They're just not there. Other teams are Dallas? I don't think the conversations with other teams and Micah and his agent are there yet. And so it's complicated, like I said, there's a lot of layers that have to happen. A lot of, there's a certain order that has to be followed here. And here's the bottom line, though, Pat. And the reason the story's out there is the Cowboys have heard from multiple suitors. There are multiple teams.

multiple that are interested in trying to work out a trade for Micah Parsons. And the Cowboys, at the very least, appear like they're willing to listen. And it certainly sounds like they want to get this resolved. In the next few days, they practice tomorrow for the first time for Thursday night's opener against the Philadelphia Eagles. Obviously, unless there's a new deal for Micah, it's hard to, imagine that he's going to be playing in that game on Thursday night. He was in California yesterday getting a second opinion for his back tightness. He hasn't practiced all summer. He's not

going to practice tomorrow. So how short of him getting a deal done with the Cowboys is he going to be out there a week from tonight for that opener? I don't see that. Now, if they somehow work out a deal, I'm sure his back tightness would feel dramatically better. Very quick. We don't know what the second doctor obviously said, the second opinion. And also, I got back tightness. Let me hop on a commercial plane, fly to L.A. and maybe get a second look at it.

We hope his back is obviously healthy. He is an electrifying football player. You talked about other teams having to deal with Micah and Mulligeta first for a long-term contract before going to the Dallas Cowboys to negotiate what a trade would look like. Have the Dallas Cowboys and Mulligeta done any negotiating? and how often are those conversations taking place fluidly throughout the year? I'm glad you asked that question, Pat, because I think it's a key part of this. And basically what I've learned is that since Jerry Jones had what he thought was an agreement,

what he thought was an agreement for a deal that averaged $40.5 million a year, five-year deal, 40.5, that was the agreement that Jerry Jones thought he had with Micah Parsons. We know what happened after that. Jerry came out at the owner's meeting, said that they didn't need an agent to get the deal done. Micah Parsons came out and said, if we're doing a deal, you're going to be doing with my agent, David Mulgetta. And since then, there have been zero conversations about a new contract. to right now to right now zero conversations regarding a new deal no new offers no new anything okay so let me clarify can i clarify quickly you said that uh jerry believes that he and mika made an agreement over a handshake deal or whatever for 40.5 million dollars a year for five years

five year deal correct so what's that 200 and i i you know here's what i don't know he had a year left on the deal and i think i don't know i think it might have been five five more at 40.5. So it seems like, I don't know whether that included the one year or not. That's why I don't want to give that total number. I want to be clear. I know that the new deal that Jerry thought they had an agreement on, average 40.5 million a year. Okay, that feels like a big piece of information.

What did TJ sound for? 41? Yep. Yeah. 41 million years. But that was before T.J. It was before. But that was agreed to, in Jerry's eyes, that was agreed to, way before T.J. White had his deal with Pittsburgh.

And at that time, the 40.5 would have made Micah Parsons the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL. So how come they didn't move at that moment if they had an agreement? What does Jerry say about why they didn't move afterwards? Because I think... Well, again, again, the agent wasn't included. and so Jerry felt like Jerry felt like he had a handshake agreement with Micah. We've heard him talk about the fact

that when he bought the Dallas Cowboys, he had a handshake agreement, nothing was on paper, nothing was written down, and he shook the guy's hand, they looked each other in the eye, and said, we have a deal. Jerry felt like that was the case this time. Micah went back, and obviously that wasn't the case. Mike is like, hey, you've got to talk to my agent

to get the deal done. From afar, my analysis of it is when David Mulgetty, here was about a five-year deal when he did a three-year deal for Derek Stingley, an agent doesn't want his young, talented pass rusher tied down in the prime of his career for five years. So even though Mike could have been shaking his head and saying, okay, Jerry, okay, Jerry, that sounds great, or whatever it is that he said, the agent is, that's why you have an agent to let you do responsible things, right? That's why the agent is representing your interest. Mike is a 25, 26-year-old

young man. And he's an incredible. football player, but the truth of the matter is, his agent is probably better equipped to be handling the length of his contract and the details of his contract than Micah is. Certainly, Moligeta, too, yeah. Molligeta's the one. You know, he's actually the one that

start an entire collusion case, and I mean, he is a great negotiator. We'll get every single cent that's out there for his high profile clients, which he has many. That's all fascinating information. I didn't know it was 40 and a half for five years there. I just found that out right now. Thank you for that piece of

information. So that means other teams would have to go probably three-year deal at $42 million now, because that's what T.J. Watts at 41. Yeah, it could be anything. Like, you know, you want Mike to come to your city. You're going to have to offer some money and be like, okay, yeah.

Okay, here's 42. We'll use your number, Pat. 43, 44. What's the difference? Get to that number, 42, 43, 44. Right? So you want to convince it, Mike, we want you here. We're going to be willing to pay you this amount of money. Okay. Okay, Yan, I'm in. Let's get this done.

Now it's up to that team to go to Dallas to work out the trade agreement, but the Cowboys have had conversations, from what I understand, with multiple teams. Okay, so this is what it would look like, Ty? Okay. Potentially. Well, I mean, he's not wearing 23, but, you know, okay, sure. That was his high school number. Like Jordan, dude. Dude John said that was his high school number.

Oh, okay. Eleven's taken. Eleventh's taken. Looks sweet. You know what? you know we're 99 or 98 or 90 he's going to be in the 90s he after he wants Ty wants them to give him 45 million a year fuck it sending three first rounders down there to Dallas whatever it needs to get him to green bay that is where you're at right now yes without

a doubt now that it's a possibility that it could happen without a doubt that'll take me from hey packers are going to go to the you know playoffs this year have a nice little season maybe make a run to the nFC championship to there wouldn't the whole fucking thing this year that I mean that's that's what we're doing here you know uh Jordan love agent just happens to be David Moolgata as well. Oh, we got pretty good relationships. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Let's just say he might know Mika.

Maybe he's talking to Mika right now. Maybe they're... You think Jordan Love's recruiting right now? I think he might be. And Jerry refuses to talk to David, right? Well, at the time, I'm not talking to Jay Z ever again. They have not had any contact since that time. So how the hell is he going to go back?

Yeah, we don't know. This is all such a shit show? Have they just, are each, is Jerry and Muggetta just, they're waiting for someone to reach out, or what? I lost a light here. Yeah, what's up? I don't know what after. I'm trying to think that was going on. Go ahead, anything?

They need a marriage counselor. I need somebody mediator to step in and say, are they waiting for someone to reach out? Like, is either one to say, hey, I'm not going to be the first call. He'll call. Is that what's going on? Lose Leverage. You become desperate. You're the one that reaches out. Everybody knows that. That's what it feels like right now. Again, no conversations.

Season opens a week from tonight. Mike is stills in practice. He was in California. we're the back specialist and the Cowboys are talking to multiple teams. Like, yeah, there's plenty to talk about here. Yes, I will also point out to you. I will also point out to you. I really don't know how this is going to work itself out. There are people who still believe in the end Jerry is going to step in from outside teams

that Jerry's going to step in and overpay on Micah, the way he overpaid on Zeke and CD and DAC. they believe he'll do that there are people within the organization who think that Jerry is very upset and that this is his waterloo and he's not going to budge and so I don't know what's right and what's wrong I just know that we're entering a time where it's Labor Day weekend the Cowboys play Thursday night and if I go back to the last time there was an issue a little bit like this Khalil Mack was traded on the Saturday of Labor Day weekend.

Oh, yeah, I remember that. Get him out of here, they said. He's a problem. Got him have like eight more years afterwards. Micah could go become a legend somewhere. He said multiple suitors, though. What if the Packers don't get him? What if another team gets them?

What if the Minnesota Vikings make a run and get them? Well, they got, you know what? Then they're going to have to get rid of Van Genki. And we'll see, you know, what Vikings fans feel about that? Do you know what other teams other than Green Bay? Do we know Green Bay? I think we think Green Bay. Bay. I think we think Green Bay is

one of, one of teams that have inquired. How many? Yeah, how many? But I was told, again, that there are, quote, unquote, multiple shooters. Multiple. Two to 30. Yeah, multiple is a lot. And everybody's going to be like, my guy available?

Yeah, what's it going to take? All right, we ain't got that. Yeah. That's crazy, though. All right, good luck. Every team is going to have that thought, though. Like, as a fan, you go from making the playoffs to winning the Super Bowl. All right, Shephton. We appreciate you. have a great football season. We'll see you soon. Ladies and you have a half. Thank you, buddy.

You look great, AJ. No shadows at all. Got a little, yeah, one of my lights is that she didn't turn off, just got a little dim. Axel eating it? Trader. It's a loaf. It's a trade it on the wires. It's a loaf. Axel could be out there gnawing on that there. All right, tomorrow's a big day. Let's enjoy it. Tonight, big

games. Let's enjoy them. I got Nebraska and Boise State covered. Okay. Okay. I got both the favorites. I don't love that that's I'm starting to eat. Why don't you take the bulls? No, everybody seems, that seems to be very trendy.

Seems very trendy. I'm talking about USF being a problem. I'm like, all right. I believe in Boise State, I think, all of a sudden. And that's nothing against USF. I'm just saying, it feels like a lot of people are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's like, anytime that happens, it's like,

well, Boisey State's here in that as well. They're going to wake up for that. And then Nebraska, I got faith in Ronald. I like them. And rule. Came to the WWE event. Guys got Moxie. E money, too, Emmett, the running back.

We got a little bit of, A little bit of cook. Now, Travis Kelsey being in the building for Cincinnati is... That's big. As far as huge. AJ, who do you like? I like USF and I like Nebraska here. All right.

Boys? All chalk. We're in this thing together. Never forget it. Be your friend, tell her friends something nice. It might change their life. I appreciate you all so much. College football, for real, is here.

We did it. Good. Hey, Jay, I can't wait to see it. in Ohio tomorrow, brother. Oh, yeah, it'll be a great day. I think the weather's going to be a perfect little fall day for us. Yes. Love that.

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