The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1402 - NFL Kickoff Recap, NFL Week 1 Preview/Picks, Dan Orlovsky, Nick Saban, Oklahoma Softball Coach Patty Gasso, Adam Schefter, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

On today's show, Pat is LIVE from Norman, Oklahoma for College Gameday this weekend, as AJ Hawk is in the ThunderDome with the boys as they recap last night's Cowboys vs. Eagles game, and preview and ...pick all of games from the first week of the NFL season. They are also joined by three incredible guests including 12 year NFL veteran and ESPN QB guru/analyst Dan Orlovsky, 7x National Champion and College GameDay analyst, the GOAT, Nick Saban, the GOAT of college softball, Oklahoma Head Softball Coach, Patty Gasso, and ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you for Overreaction Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here we go. Feel Good Friday, September 5th. I'm A.J. Hawks sitting here at Pat's desk. He's in Norman, Oklahoma for a big old matchup tomorrow. But first. Football! Nailed it. It's here. It's back. Pat, how do you feel, man?
Starting point is 00:00:18 Honestly, last night, Philadelphia Eagles taken on the Dallas Cowboys. Unbelievable game. First off, though, Pat, what's the like there in Norman, Oklahoma? You look good, I guess. I don't know what the weather might look like. I know you're there for a big matchup, but what? what you think of last night in this matchup. I feel like it was a great game.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Well, AJ, thank you for traveling over there to the Thunderdome with the boys. It's another Friday of college football season. It's going to be an absolutely beautiful thing. Norman, Oklahoma's great. You know, we're in tornado alley here, so we go a little rain coming in. The flight this morning did have a little bumps and roughs, but it's beautiful out here in God's country. Cannot wait for tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Michigan, Oklahoma. Game day in the morning should be an electrifying day here in boomer, sooner. John Mateer, real deal. So is Bryce Underwood. Bryce Underwood just turned 18, like three weeks ago. He looks like a 45-year-old man out on the field. He is certainly a special talent and worth every dollar that Michigan paid to have him be their quarterback. Starting freshman, obviously Sharon Moore and the boys.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Got a couple running backs, you know, got an offensive line. Are they back to ponding? I think so. Tomorrow should be a great test for the Oklahoma team who loves Mateer. Venables obviously settled in his culture here. and we got a you know the stars are going to be out i believe tray young he's the celebrity guest picker i'm not sure if that note has been out there yet and has been announced okay that's great news as gumpy tells me i didn't ruin anything so we're excited tomorrow should be awesome lucky to be
Starting point is 00:01:42 here you got bells going off obviously you got perfect weather on the outside a little bit of a drizzle it's a magical fall day and speaking of a magical day this morning we woke up and we were able to completely overreact to an NFL game congrats to the philadelphia eagle's winning and congrats of the Dallas Cowboys for covering. It kind of went exactly how we thought it was going to go. Obviously, the Dallas Cowboys come out, slicing and dice, and Shawty looks like a genius. And his time management and situational awareness was phenomenal. Now, Javonte Williams, I don't think any of us knew that he was going to be the guy for the Dallas Cowboys this year.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I didn't hear his name said one time all offseason. Our Mike had talked about a little bit. Art, Shawty talked about a little bit. Obviously, Dak is going to get a little bit of chatter. That guy's a real deal. The Dallas Cowboys offensive line without Jalen Carter. there which uh can't do that
Starting point is 00:02:33 especially opening night banner night every camera in the world is going to be on deck prescott especially you jalen carter you are the guy for this philadelphia eagles defense and have become that i think everybody that's ever played football as somebody's dropping something a jay please don't break my shit back there please the back there's a lot of things in a lot of places please don't do that but jaylin car
Starting point is 00:02:57 I don't think you can do that. And hopefully this is a moment. And I think his shirt said first year being rich afterwards, wherever he gave his interview, that was what he wore. It's like, hey, it's also your first year being the guy. You are the franchise guy for the defensive side of the ball for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think this can be quite a learning lesson to, hey, all eyes are going to be on him. Now, later video showed Dak Prescott sneaking up in between his offense alignment
Starting point is 00:03:22 and spitting at the ground and then laughing in Jalen Carter's face. And obviously, once that video surfaces, everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold the phone now. That kind of, you know, he did the Drusky white Hicks spit. Jalen Corwood spits on the ground right in front of him. I think there's a lot of a difference between spitting on somebody's chest or sternum versus spitting on the ground in front of them. But I do appreciate Sunday night football,
Starting point is 00:03:49 releasing that video like three hours later after we all very much judged Jalen in the entire process. The boys are fired up. Jalen needs to know he can't be doing that and now he's going to become a target to the greatest shit talkers on earth everybody that they play against is going to try to go up to Jalen and immediately piss him off and just try to get him out
Starting point is 00:04:08 of the game because it was very obvious that he was not on the field and that was with that running game the shot he did right down the middle of that Philadelphia Eagles defense I don't think anybody expected that is the game plan because this dude was going to be on the field instead he has zero place so that can't happen for the Philadelphia Eagles
Starting point is 00:04:24 with that being said Seek Juan still Sequin, that offensive line, still that offensive line. J.L. Hurtz looks better than he's ever looked. A.J. Brown didn't even catch a ball until, what, 11.45 p.m. last night, and they were still so damn prolific. I saw Dotson get a big shot instead of Devonte Smith and A.J. Brown. So there's still so many things for this Philadelphia Eagles offense to kind of open up, and Jalen Carter being back on the defensive side changes how they look. So congrats to the Philadelphia Eagles getting a huge win.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And in the Dallas Cowboys, man. Hey, AJ, you ever, uh, you ever meet my friend's CD? You ever meet my friend CD? Who? CD's nuts, cuz. He saw his drops. We saw his drops. C.D.'s drops.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It was not good. And obviously, we all have immense amount of respect for C.D. Lamb, which is why the response is what it is whenever he does some things that are very out of the ordinary for him, especially in game winning situations. When this ball is dropped over top in a bucket 2420, and CD drops, not this one, the next one, I believe, that's about to happen. This one, bang, 245 left, 2420. Dak steps up in pressure, puts it on you like that, like that can't happen.
Starting point is 00:05:34 CD knows that can't happen. Dak understands that that's not going to happen going forward. But that's kind of the story of the game is the fact that there was a couple big-time plays that the Dallas Cowboys could have made and won this game. And if they exit, Dak, and CD, once again, you're going against your own reputation and expectations, everybody thinks you're going to catch that. Every wide receiver number one around the league, I think catches that in that moment. Just as we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So C.D. has an off night at the end, even though he had a massive first half. I think he will not do what he did. I like the Dallas Cowboys, too. I like the Dallas Cowboys. I like their vibe. I like everything they had last night. And the Philadelphia Eagles get a win on Banner Night, which is obviously big for the city. Yeah, hey, Pat, when you're watching the Cowboys, the first drive I'm sitting here thinking
Starting point is 00:06:19 of the North Carolina game. Remember North Carolina, PCU? I'm like, hey, all right, maybe the Cowboys can be consistent. They can keep this up, and it's not going to be a one-off. And I feel like for the most part, they did keep it up. But the weird, how do you think the delay, the whole lightning delay? That's the old cliche question. Who did it help more?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Who needed that lightning delay more? Who came out better after the other side? Well, I thought it was going to be me. Like, I thought, okay, this is an excuse for me to fall asleep. Okay, because they said it was like going to be 47 or 57 minutes at the beginning. And I don't know. They don't got Joe Nardo Arena dappel. So I'd no idea how they.
Starting point is 00:06:51 were going to be that accurate. It ended up being 65 minutes in total, I believe, of a delay. And every time I tried to fall asleep, I was just like, this is a really close game here. 24-20 in the third quarter. It's opening night. I can power through this. I could say I watched to the end. I'm very pumped about that.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I don't know how often that's going to take place on some of these games, especially if there's a 65-minute delay. But, yeah, I think both offense has lost their luster. Obviously, there's no points scored afterwards. I tried to do a giveaway, something random in the Thunderd him. Yeah. I was like, hey, who's going to be the final score? Because the over at 47 not hitting is just absolutely absurd. I think it's like 173 and 1 now for 50 points to be scored after 40 points
Starting point is 00:07:34 was scored in the first half or something like that. Some ridiculous stat. Like, that should have won over. It does not go over. But I just wanted to know who's going to score the final. Who's going to be a final point score? Is it going to be a kicker? Is it going to be a touchdown?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Is it going to be a run? What is it going to be? How is this game going to end? because we all saw it coming down to the final, you know, kind of final drive. And then at the bottom, I just added this in because I saw myself getting bamboozled by people that would just put whoever just scored at the moment. I forget who it was. Must be another point scored.
Starting point is 00:08:03 There wasn't. So, I mean, that was a wild thing to stay awake for. No more points. But there was certainly a lot of plays that were, you know, substantial to the season, I think, as a whole. And Optostat says, yeah, first aid drives, both teams at the night's Cowboys Eagles game all in it with points. the last eight drive, and it with no points.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's the only NFL game in the last 30 years to start with eight consecutive scoring drives and end with eight consecutive non-scoring drives. So all the over-betters, like we were pushing, we got screwed. Everything else, though, Jalen Hertz, touchdown, Sequin, touchdown, Dallas Cowboys cover, Philadelphia Eagles win.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Feels like we're seeing the board pretty fucking good, AJ, doesn't it? It feels like we're kind of maybe seeing it a little. Yeah, we're definitely seen it. I mean, the over, it's unreal to me, the over did not hit. But for me, like, Jalen Hertz, how special is this dude? Multiple times you have a four-man rush for Dallas, and we've seen it a million times. In the back end, they're matching up or their back is turned because they're in man or some kind of match coverage. Four guys, oh, all of a sudden, somebody peeks inside where their DN gets collapsed down, whatever it might be.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Jayland Hertz is so athletic, and he's so calm in the pocket, too, that he can buy time, by time. And he turns and run, guess what? My back's already turned. I'm chasing my guy down the field, and that happened multiple times last night. I feel like at the worst times for the Dallas Cowboys. So credit to the Eagles and how they do it. but man, you have to find a way to contain him and bottle him up and keep him in that pocket.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Oh, yeah, I think Pat's got a sweet situation going with his microphone. Yeah, he's a weapon, dude, and like... He's so calm in the pocket, like, he just has, like, that pocket awareness, and then obviously the athletic ability and the strength to get, like, not only he can run through you and run around you, like, I just love his presence in the pocket. And he got done, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Like, there's multiple times where he slid. This time, I love him going for it. It's like, and you watch the way he reacts afterwards. The guys already won a Super Bowl. He's already been a national champion. He's done it all. He's very comfortable being the guy who he is, you know? And Siriani, he didn't have a lot of emotion last night.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I mean, I mean, he was pretty stoic throughout the entire evening. I think that banner night had a lot of pressure on him, Conman. I think there was a lot of thoughts about the last banner night and the Eagles getting booed out of the stadium. And whenever Dallas comes out and isn't just a dead fish like everybody had predicted, You know, Seriani knows he's in the middle of it. Feels like his guys are ready to repeat, though. Honestly, Lennon Dickerson will even, don't love that.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Don't love that. That's going to be a big deal potentially going forward. But I like where this Eagles team feels maturity-wise. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, no doubt about it. Like even, you know, a big story for people today is, you know, A.J. Brown and Devont Smith are going to, you know, request trades because they didn't get enough passes.
Starting point is 00:10:41 They were blocking their ass off. I thought that was kind of the coolest part. Another guy, you know, when we were talking, another guy, if you will, when we were talking about this Eagles whole line. You know, hey, it's not the same old line. Mackay Beckton's gone. Landon Dickerson's hurt. Cam Jurgens was running wild yesterday.
Starting point is 00:10:57 There was a few times that he was coming around the corner, whether it was on a Jalen run, but he was finishing dudes on the offensive line, pause, as they say. But it was a fantastic game. Just the start to it, you know, right away the Cowboys or the broadcast showed, there's Cam Jurgens getting after it. The broadcast showed Trevon Diggs. And I want to say Bland standing right next to Matt Iber Fluse during the national anthem.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And then you hear Jerry after the game talking about how like, yeah, we all really, really wanted to get this one for Shottie. So it does feel like that Cowboys team, whether they, you know, the Micah Levin brought them together or whether the offseason they've been together the whole time. It was incredible. But with the Eagles, it does feel as though it's like a repeat. You know, it feels kind of like the Chiefs Ravens last year where the Chiefs win. But after the game, you're still saying, hey, the Chiefs and Ray. Ravens are both going to be great this year. And I damn near have the same feeling, especially when you see Cowboys left tackle,
Starting point is 00:11:53 throwing left hooks in a rivalry game against the Eagles. Yeah, unbelievable. Love that. Yeah, I think both these teams are in the playoffs, right? Yeah, yeah, it feels like it. We all think that. Injury free, you're right. Because Mike McCarthy said, if they get a lock of you, well, hell,
Starting point is 00:12:07 Dak stays healthy, everything they want to do is possible. And I'll say it, DAC looked unbelievable. Yes. I think I forgot about that. And I like that Dak is getting in Jalen Carter's. face. I like that. You know, like Jalen Carter, he's a rhino. Like he actually is maybe the strongest guy in the NFL, also toughest, everything like that. And Dack is just like, nope, this ain't happening. It gets in his face. I respect that. Now, the spit at the dirt, you know, and Jalen
Starting point is 00:12:33 Carter answering it and spitting right on his neck. I mean, I love Jalen Carter, the football player. I really do. But this was a stupid, this was stupid, like thinking nobody would see it, you know, because he thought he was casual because he like puts his head down and he like casually spits that thing right where he's going to feel it. You know, you spit here, not going to feel it as much, my head thing. Right here, he's going to feel that thing. So he, you know, the Lug, the hawk. Oh, yeah. Right to the Adams apple is where he knows he's not protected. It's like whenever you're fighting in football, you're trying to get a fist somewhere. We need to hit somewhere where the helmet isn't. He was doing the same thing when he spit. Okay, where do I need to go? Bang. I need to hit him right. Yep. He's going to feel it.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I want that on his skin. But I think he thought nobody was going to see it. It's like, Jalen. Everybody's going to see that. And look at the old buddy there, the trainer. You're sitting there, what was I saying there? Holy shit. A little bit of, doctor, are we fighting this guy right here?
Starting point is 00:13:31 How much you can get a fine do you think? What's that fine look like? Pretty good. I thought a lot of people calling for him to be suspended a couple more games. He actually handed a well. Afterwards, he handed a well. I know the shirt you said he was wearing. But what he said, well, I felt like he said the right thing.
Starting point is 00:13:44 This will not happen again. and it was on all that stuff. He said, to his credit, I guess he did have four quarters and a lightning delay to try to get his thoughts together. He did his time. He did his time, though.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And he's lucky, too. Whenever you, whenever you do something stupid, though, like this was stupid. Yeah. Everybody wants to hear you say, I was stupid. Whenever he's walking off and smiling,
Starting point is 00:14:05 you know, because I think he's just mind-blown that the situation's happening. But you see a lot of people on the internet going, you don't even know like that. I don't think that was his reaction. Like,
Starting point is 00:14:14 I think his reaction was, was like, I can't believe this. First night, obviously, and he is the guy on the defense. So, like, I think him smiling turned some people off. And I think anything he would have said at the end of the game, nobody wanted to hear. But Big Dom getting him out of there, and I think, like, I think that's him
Starting point is 00:14:29 going, like, I can't believe this, as opposed to, like, not understanding. For sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, I think he does know that this was stupid as shit. Like, I think he understands that. Them being able to get a win against a division opponent without him, I mean, it has to feel good.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And if you're Jalen Carter, you save four quarters worth of bumps. Yep. He's all of a sudden got a 16-game season now. And it's like, he's actually hurt the rest of the NFL that Jalen Carter got rested out there. But what a great start, man. Honestly, Tariko and Collinsworth thought they were throwing their fastball. They even had to fill a bunch of time. Sunday night, Canton had to fill a bunch of time.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah. I thought it was a great night. The 65-minute delay, almost being accurately predicted by whoever was on the Doppler, also very impressive. So I think it was a great night in total, Ty. I genuinely do. No, I agree. And I think you're talking about Siriani, not having very much emotion.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Like, I think you hit the nail on the head. Like, they know, hey, if we stay healthy, you just look at our roster, our makeup, after what we accomplished last year. Like, we're probably the best team in the NFL, on paper at least. And I think walking away from that with everything else that's going on. And even, you know, a couple of guys, I think, said after the game last night, like, hey, we're done with the Micah stuff. Like, stop asking us questions about Micah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Ask us about the 2025 Cowboys. Like, that's over and done with. I think they played really well when, you know, that was kind of, everyone was waiting for that to be the story this morning. They could throw it back in Jerry's face. But I think after watching that, you walk away thinking, like, wow, the, you know, the Eagles, if everything goes right, should be right there to win another Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And the Cowboys are, they're impressive. They don't look like a shell of themselves. And like you said, stay healthy, they should be a team that could be vying for, you know, one of those seven playoff spots. And if Dak has the type of season, you know, that he expects to have and what we heard from McCarthy, like, this team could go deep in the playoffs. Yeah, it'd be crazy if the Dallas Cowboys were to go deep in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:16:30 But shout to Shottie. I didn't see any situational dumb, dumbs, either. Had all three timeouts late, Kate, which is huge. Obviously, you're going to need that. Didn't feel like he forced anything. Felt like he stayed committed to the run. You know, it was like, I was pretty proud of Shottie. actually on the big stage.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And then all the stories about his dad and him and them showing him during the National Anthem where he was clearly having a full conversation with his dad and like getting emotion. It was like, I'm almost getting choked up thinking about it right now. It's like that was a huge night with a lot of distractions for the Dallas Cowboys, for Shoddy for everybody. And obviously for the Philadelphia Eagles, you can do it as well.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I thought they played great. I did. And if CD, who always makes those plays, makes those plays, we're having a completely different conversation today. And I got some tweets. I got a tweet. I sent it to you guys. The guy said, we're going to spend 15, 20 minutes or whatever,
Starting point is 00:17:18 acting like Dallas had a chance. They did. They should have won. That guy fell asleep. That guy fell asleep. He did not watch the post-rain delay. Tone, what was the gomblers last night? Because we hit.
Starting point is 00:17:32 All of us hit, except for, but I think we were abnormal, right? We want like four or five on our shit, which is not. AJ, we need to be happy about this. Connor, we need to be happy about this. Believe me, the flying eye. We have not come down, my friend. We did a little bit during that delay, but yeah, we've remained up here for quite some time. But to your point, I think a majority of the money was Eagles, right?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah, and Connor actually said this morning. We're going to see it this year, boys, is exactly what he said. And to your point, Pat, about Shottie, too, that two-minute drive right before half was awesome, too, when they got the field goal right there. They looked like everything was perfect for them last night, except for the couple of mistakes that killed them. But as far as gambling-wise, yes, 62% was on. the Eagles so they lost as far as covering
Starting point is 00:18:16 that. What? The big break of the night was that like 75, 80% of people were on the under. So a lot of people I think maybe went to bed last night thinking that they were screwed but then they were not because that was one of the wildest things. I even sent out tweet like, all right, under's good or sorry, over's good
Starting point is 00:18:32 or whatever. Oh, it's your fault. Tony! You know that. What the hell? Piece of shit. Why did you do that? I didn't exactly say it was. I sineuated. It was good. I don't know. What was the tweet, Tony? What's your problem? I said, what's your problem? I said, uh, obviously hasn't gone over yet, but the overall was
Starting point is 00:18:55 shut up. Just gave it. Tony. I appreciate how active everybody was last night on X, by the way. We were a good follow. So back. I think as a team, we were a very good follow. Everybody kind of it was great to be in there with you guys. And, uh, had to post the photo after the delay. Just let motherfuckers know I'm still up. Yeah, still branded. Yeah, I got a kid. I did fall asleep. Got travel early in the morning.
Starting point is 00:19:17 You know, got the whole thing still up because how much we love ball. There was a couple 15-second commercials I powered through to watch football. So call me a fucking hero. Joining us now. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is going to be on your television for the next six months every damn day. He's a dog, former teammate of ours. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback guru for all of sports entertainment, Dan Oloski. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Dano, what up? Oh, loose tie. We're in a car. We're so cool. How are you doing, brother? I'm good, man. I'm good. You just call yourself an effing hero.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. It's because I watched 15 seconds of commercials a few different times last night and kept the game on because I like watching. And you should see what I do with Red Zone, too. I'm going to watch it. Yeah. I'm going to watch it. That's what you think now.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Be careful. That's what you think now, bro. I don't know if you should say that. All those people that are saying horrendous things to me, let's talk on Monday. see if you watch Red Zend show. If you did, I would like apologies, because that's what I was meaning.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I guess I didn't say it accurately enough to your liking. But there's a lot of people call me at Disney Shill for saying I'm still going to watch Red Zone because they're having four 15-second commercials. It's like whenever this finally gets over to ESPN and Disney, our shows more than likely not even going to be on ESPN. So to act like that is what we're doing is an absolutely absurd thing. Nonetheless, can't wait to watch Red Zone.
Starting point is 00:20:41 if you don't watch it, I think you're going to miss it. I think if you're a red zone watcher, you would have already known that ads were in last year. And also, I think you'll say, that 15 second break actually gave me a chance to check my phone. Got to take a piss. Look at another game. And I think the NFL knows that they have us then.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And the NFL knows that they have us. Don't love it. Wish there was nothing, but they know that they have us. Let's talk about the game last night. Great start for the NFL. Stars showing up. A.J. Brown and Devonte Smith, I guess not much. Every other star that you know played big last night.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Shottie didn't make any dumb decisions. Siriani soon to be super locked in. Jalen Hertz played out of his mind, as did Dak Prescott. For you, perfect start to the NFL season, and what is something we should think about? Yeah, I think the big takeaways, if your Philadelphia is one, Jalen was perfect. I mean, you play as perfect a game as you can, given what's asked of you. I think he had four incompletions. Three of them are drops, and then one's a throwaway.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So, you know, 19 and 19 is pretty sensational. And I think this, like, buried the team in many ways. They didn't dominate running the football or running the football. The receivers weren't a massive part of it. But, you know, I think, and I've learned this and kind of evolved with my thoughts on Jalen and my perspective of him is, like, he just is one of those guys that just seems to do whatever it takes to win the football game. And whatever it takes to have that play be successful and win that football game.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Because, you know, Dallas, I don't know what the number. are, but Dallas seemed to play a ton of zone coverage and just keeping everything in front of them. Contrast to what Dallas used to be under Dan Coyne and Zim, it was like man pressure, man pressure, man pressure. This was just zone after zone after zone. And the lack of rush discipline, you know, when no one's open, quarterback has to throw the football, wait for a seam. And when those defensive linemen get on different levels, that's when he hurt you. And so I think if you're feeling, like our quarterback looked absolutely fantastic. I think the second thing is you know, one, the defensive penalties, I'm not telling everyone, like, overly concerned about
Starting point is 00:22:46 them, but they've got to be addressed. Those nine penalties, I think, for over 100 yards, like, what are we actually doing? So I think from, like, that perspective, if you're going defensive penalty, you didn't love. And then opposite Quinion Mitchell has to be a conversation. Jaylon Carter is going to impact how long a quarterback can hold the football, no doubt. He's a defensive player of the eight candidate. But if everybody, I talked about it all day yesterday, Everyone knew, like, hey, they're going to throw the ball off St. Coyneau Mitchell. And then that comes out and does it basically all game. That's got to have your attention.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And so I'm not sitting there saying it's panic mode, but that's got to have your attention. So you play your C game and win if you're Philadelphia, that's got to feel good. I think if you're Dallas, you've got to be crazy encouraged. One, you beat yourself. So that's, you know, how do you want to look at it? But four drops in the fumble, the Miles Sanders fumble, shot at the Zach Bonn. The play by Zach Vaughn is absolutely phenomenal. but the Miles Sanders fumbles huge because it doesn't happen unless Zach tracks him down
Starting point is 00:23:43 and like seeing where Bond comes from is nuts so you beat yourselves if you're a little bit from Dallas but you go man shoddy had us operating I heard you guys talk about it we looked like a competent football team uh operation they were all over it the interior part of your offensive line looked very good again no jlin harder so that factors in but you're trying you know positives deck looked great I thought that looked better last night deck it looked last night that he did at any point last season. And I actually thought the run defense was solid, you know, like solid. So I think there's a lot of encouragement if you're with Dallas as well.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Dano, if you're playing against, say you're Dallas defense, you're playing against Jalen Hertz, we saw how many times he can hurt you with his feet and his presence in the pocket. When someone would peek or they'd collapse inside one of those edge rushers and give him a giant lane and maybe the defender's backs return, whatever the coverage was, like what would you do if you're trying to play Jalen Hertz? What would teams in the future, what can they do to try to stop this guy? Well, isn't that what they're supposed to do, too? Like, isn't that that supposed to be the answer, right?
Starting point is 00:24:44 His zone with eyes on the quarterback, right? To me, it looks like their backs return a lot chasing guys. They're playing zone. We're here. We're looking at a quarterback the whole time. We might drop it an angle, but our eye, we have all, we probably have six underneath guys with our eyeballs on the quarterback in case he runs. Yeah, it seems to AJ, like this clip, it seems like this has a lot of match personality
Starting point is 00:25:02 or principles to it, like, you know, for everybody. Yeah, AJ could speak. to speak to it better than me, but you're playing his own defense. And then when a person on the other team, receiver, tight end back comes to your area, you match them. So it becomes a man type of coverage. I think in these situations, your rush just has to be crazy disciplined. You know, you have to force him to stay within the pocket. And then you have to have a spy. And I asked Bruceki today, I'm like, why no spine? He's like, well, then I'm taking somebody away from coverage. And so obviously a huge conversation last night is, man, AJ Brown gets one target. And, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:37 You know, Devante Smith has only three catches, but that's the style of defense that Dallas was playing. You know, Dallas decided, under Iberfluse, they were going to play in that shell umbrella coverage. They were going to keep the ball in front of them. They weren't going to give you the opportunity to throw that goal ball down to field to A.J. Brown 101, and they were going to minimize that part of the game.
Starting point is 00:25:58 If you think about, like, the only bowl that goes over their heads is Dotson. But I go back to last year. I mean, think about how they start the Super Bowl. Kent City just lined up. and played man coverage and it was like shot down the field shot down the field so that's that's the beast that you're playing against and so i think a lot of the conversation around the wide receivers is is unwarranted given how the defense played i thought the quarterback did what he was supposed to do on those plays given what the defense did i don't know if there's a perfect way to play
Starting point is 00:26:28 m a j you know like you got to have really good rush discipline i would imagine obviously incredibly sticky coverage. And then you've got to be great when it comes to pursuit of him. So he's, he played high, high level football decision-making wise last night. And doesn't everybody just assume that he's only going to get better and better because his work ethic is absurd? That's all everybody says. His work ethic is insane. He's obviously his dad was a coach. So like the way he views every single day, he's just trying to get better and better and better. And it's obviously a lot of people on the internet that don't want to give him a lot of credit because he's wildly handsome, very cool and incredibly successful.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And he'll wear a Kangol hat backwards, everyone's snores. So there's a lot of things he does, I think, that people just go, this guy can't be this perfect. But when it comes to being an NFL quarterback, he seems to be perfect for Nick Siriani and this Philadelphia Eagles offense. And watch him last night was sweet because he clearly looked better than he looked ever. And the same thing with Dak. Now, a couple of things to kind of hit about last night before we moved to another game with Daner
Starting point is 00:27:27 Rolovsky. it was said by Tariko last night about the K-balls. Like you saw Jake Elliott hit like a 56-yarder or 58-yarder, and that thing hit like three-quarters up the net. Brandon Aubrey obviously has a massive leg. Teams are now allowed to bring their own k-balls to the game. Okay, so it used to be a rule where teams could bring their own k-balls, and then it got a little ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Kickers started putting them in, like, washers and dryers, and these things became like rugged balls. And then all of a sudden one of those accidentally got put into the field of play, a quarterback had to throw it. I think it was Brad, I'm not 100% sure, but it was a notable quarterback in a notable situation. A K ball got onto the field. It was so big, so slick, threw a pick. So then they cracked down on K balls. Then it was brand new footballs were what everybody was kicking. Straight out of the box, straight onto the tee. That's what you're going to kick. All the kickers and punters and special teams coach were like, this is bullshit. This is not good.
Starting point is 00:28:21 So then they made a rule for like 10, 15 years where equipment managers, one from each team, have a 30-minute time frame before the game, where they would go into a locker room, there would be an NFL official watching them, they were allowed to have one brush, one bottle of water, and they had 30 minutes to break in seven balls. So our guy, Frog, had great Christmases because he was probably the best entire league at breaking in these balls. But then we play against somebody else or another team that had a shitty ball breaker, that ball would make it onto the field.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And when it comes from like a brand new ball to a well-broken-in ball, which is what these guys are going to be able to take into the game, froggy was able to break it in about halfway okay so like from brand new ball to what froggy was able to do probably like seven eight yards seven eight yards for a ball that's getting brought into the game now it has to get stamped of approval it can't just be the rugby ball that they had back in the day but they're allowed to bring their practice balls and if they pass the test that the reps are giving I think it's a 10 to 15 yard swing for kicking and for
Starting point is 00:29:23 punning I think this is a big deal I think I think this is very very good for the brand. And I think you're going to see some long, long, long kicks this year. Huge punts as well. This also affects the punt game massively. Hang times are going to be absurd. Confidence is going to be at a different level as well. Because me as a punter, whenever I catch a ball and it feels like an absolute like this ball wants to be merced. You know, it feels like it's broken in. You're just going to hit it like mentally so much harder. So I think this year with that rule change, it's going to affect things. And I think you're going to see a great year from the kickers. Kickoffs too, Pat. Will that, will that affect?
Starting point is 00:29:57 If that kickoffs, too, it would be harder for guys to field those balls, or were they not using for kickoffs? No, they'll still use those balls for kickoffs, and it might be slick for returners. Yeah, I didn't even think about, like, the punt returners having to kind of deal with it. It's not about the slickness. It's just about how broken in it is. It's not really like... New ball has, like, ridges, like where it's sewn together. It's like there's road, like the ridges rise up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That's why they, you're right. Those guys that break the balls in, like you said, Frog, they are invaluable. If you find a good one, they, they, get whatever they need. body i yeah well viny kind of told me the game viny is the one adam venetary is the one that kind of gave me the whole story about what it used to be we used to be able to use whatever balls we wanted brother we
Starting point is 00:30:35 it was awesome then somebody you know abuse leads the restriction can i ask you a question on can i ask you a question about the return stuff did i didn't know about it until we met with the you know you could put three returners back now you know that's they're they're trying to you know continue to evolve the
Starting point is 00:30:52 the kickoff that you teams are now It's legal to have three returners back this season. You think anybody does that this weekend, if so? Definitely. And also, I think you're going to see a lot of, like, creative kicks from the kickers trying to land it in the landing zone. The 35-yard line is insane to just sacrifice with a touchback. I think last night you saw a lot of different tries of kicks and styles of kicks.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You saw some mishandling. The one guy back for Dallas was interesting, but obviously it's Turpin. You're going to want him to get the ball regardless. So I think you're going to see a lot of creative shit this year, because that's what they're looking for right there. And if that was to skirt through the end zone there after landing in the landing zone and then go through the end zone, that touchback comes at a 20, which is old school, which is what everybody, that's a 15-yard advantage. That's a first down and a half advantage.
Starting point is 00:31:38 If you can get a kicker that can hit like a nasty squib that can go. Now, if you hit a squib, there's a chance it lands early, then it goes to the 40. So there's a lot of, I think they are making it better. I think they are making it better. All right, let's pivot away from last night's game and kicking and punting. just know it's going to be a great year for the brand Jake Elliott hit that ball almost over the net from 58
Starting point is 00:31:59 it was like I love what we're seeing here and I got a lot of texts from a lot of people around the league they're like brother this is awesome like this is even a snappers like the snappers knowing the ball that they're going to snap because the newer ball is actually more slick because there's a film on it than the ones that are a little broken in
Starting point is 00:32:16 nonetheless let's move forward to the NFL go ahead Ty Schmidt about Dan Rolofsky compliment folks yeah Dan on your you know Schragers prediction special yesterday, you mentioned that you think Jordan Love is going to win the MVP this year. And, you know, when you just look at the Packers last year, riddled with drops, they had a lot of them. They're hoping Matthew Golden, I guess, is going to be the number one guy. And they're kind of, I mean, Josh Jacobs is the bell cow there. He's kind of the centerpiece of the offense. So I guess I'm
Starting point is 00:32:44 just curious, why do you think Jordan Love is going to win MVP this year? And is that maybe just, excitement around the Packers with, you know, Micah Parsons getting there and now everyone's kind of picking them to go to the Super Bowl. No, I think one, it's, you know, the health has got to be a huge part of Jordan, so that's a given thing, but I think I would go through the depth that they have
Starting point is 00:33:07 and, you know, I had someone say that Matthew Golden was like a Steve Smith type of wide receiver. So I'm going, okay, if your perspective of him, he's got a similar playing style, I love that. I still think, like, Reed is a really good player to me.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I just think they've got five really good wide receivers. I think they've got two really good tight ends. I think their offensive line is going to continue to be one of the better offensive lines. So, like, all the things that a quarterback needs to have to play well, supporting cast he has, LaFleur's play calling his scheme is fantastic. And I think the addition of Micah will make LaFleur even more aggressive throwing the football. My perspective of it is this, Ty, like, they didn't throw it a ton. last year. I think they were like bottom five or bottom seven in the NFL when it came to, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:56 throwing the football usage wise. But they're top five or top six when it comes to execution wise or efficiency wise. So I'm going, okay, you didn't do it a ton last year. I'll get an injury. I think you'll do it more because the effectiveness of it. And then I just believe Mike is a game wrecker. And so if I'm the offensive coach and I have a guy that I know can wreck the football game and being added to a defense that's good. I'm going, well, let's get more aggressive on offense because the one thing I want to do is get that guy to be a pass rusher. And the one thing I even have more comfort of doing then is
Starting point is 00:34:30 if Jordan is overly aggressive and sometimes he can be with the football and we turned a ball over, dude, we just gave a two first-round picks, go get it back. So I just think it transfers the whole thought process of how they want to play off football offensively. It's like, let's be ultra-aggressive on offense. We've got the people, we've got the protection, We've got the quarterback who can do it.
Starting point is 00:34:51 We got the play caller who can. And if something bad happens, we just got a game record added to a defense that became a top 10 defense last year. But we'll get the ball back for us because, dude, if we give you a two-scored lead in the second half, it should be blouses. And so I just think. I like that you're saying that because you probably have some inside sources there telling you that that's what they're thinking. But let me tell you what I'm thinking. And Ty, you tell me if I'm right or wrong as an owner of the Green Bay Packers. They got Josh Jacobs there still
Starting point is 00:35:20 I think you get Micah We're just trying to get a lead right Aren't we just trying to get a lead However we can get it And then you let Micah hunt That's kind of like the old Indianapolis quotes The fact that they have Josh Jacobs As like a luxury basically
Starting point is 00:35:34 With all the other weapons that you're talking about I like the Packers a lot It's all on Jordan Love though isn't it It's all on Jordan loved Is he a guy? You think he's a guy? Obviously I do I do I think he's supremely talented
Starting point is 00:35:47 he's obviously got a ton of experience under his belt now and I just I think it's that that year that they've got all the people around them they've got all the necessary roles or people that fill those roles I'm a fan of his and part of it too like I just believe that that scheme is perfect a fit for like his physical skill set
Starting point is 00:36:11 oh you're done speaking Dan no Dana when you look around Christian McCallery sorry sorry I thought you were still going on that one. And you see this Christian inside voices there coming out. So you see this Christian McCaffrey news. We see he's what added the injury report. What is it Achilles foot? I don't know exactly. Calf. Caff. How worried are you? What are your insiders telling you? We know you got people dialed in at every single facility in the NFL. But what is this offense if Christian McCaffrey is not out there somewhere close to 100%. Yeah, this is no insider information. I just I don't, I'm not
Starting point is 00:36:42 overreacting to it. I know he's dealt with Caff. I think in the past, I believe the season, was like Achilles tendonitis and maybe CAF was part of a training camp last year before. I'm hoping it's not kind of a long-term thing and it's just a precaution. I will say this. His impact on Brock Purdy's performance is substantial. There's probably not a back in the NFL that has the amount of impact on the quarterback's ability to play as much as McCaffrey does on Purdy. When McCaffrey's on the field, Purdy's one of the best quarterbacks in football.
Starting point is 00:37:16 When McCaffrey's off the field, he's not as successful. And so I just think for the 49ers and an organization that's dealt with a lot of injuries here in the last two or three years, I'm hoping it's cautious and them just being extra careful with it because Brock becomes one of the best quarterbacks in football when McCaffrey's on the field. And it's just a harder road for him when he's not. Them doing this, put him on the injury report thing after all the fantasy football drafts for a second straight year. Yeah. I mean, they're not trying to win anybody over. It's like they're not trying to win anybody over as somebody who may or may not have Christian McCaffrey, just because if Christian McCaffrey's in a lineup, I think they're going to have success.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Like that is just, that is what it is. If Christian's playing, I believe in the San Francisco 49ers, I like their defense. I love Brock Purdy, love Shanahan, love everything about it. But if you don't have a great running back in that particular offense, I don't think you're going to be as good. I think that was proven last year. Now, is it Brock Purdy that needs to step up? up maybe, but I don't like this coming out like this. I don't like this at all. And I think
Starting point is 00:38:23 our message to CMC is, brother, we hope to God you're playing football. We missed them last year. We missed them greatly. And I know there's going to be a lot of people like that. Now, Brock Purdy, I think he has a huge bounce back here if this guy is playing. I think he'll get the respect that he is warranted. And obviously he's getting the paycheck that he has earned in this entire thing. There's other quarterbacks that a lot of people have high hopes. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Dan, we are blessed Sunday night football. We get the two guys who you wanted to split the MVP last year in Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. It's going to be an incredible game.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Obviously that, but like big picture, Lamar and Josh, do one of them have to win the Super Bowl this year? Like, which one of those two has more pressure on it? Is it just insane pressure on both of them? No, it's Lamar. I don't think there's a organization or a team that has more pressure on them than Baltimore. It's okay for us to say that. That's not being a hater.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You picked them to win the Super Bowl. You picked them to win the Super Bowl. I did. I did. Here's the thing. Little bit of a hater. No, I've got the... Yeah, you said it like a hater.
Starting point is 00:39:25 A little bit. A little bit of a hater. Hayter. Puckler just paid everybody. Buckler just paid everybody. I congratulate. What's the opposite of a hater? Like, I'm the opposite of that when it comes to...
Starting point is 00:39:35 A lover. A lover. Lover. All right. Here's... This is what I'm saying. Okay. I've had the privilege to sit with Lamar. Lamar is cool to talk to.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Lamar does not run from the fact that he has to win a Super Bowl. He has said that multiple times. He doesn't run from it. This is an organization that sits right now, okay? They have a coach who's won the Super Bowl. They have five first round picks in their secondary. They have a quarterback who's a two-time MVP. They have a roster 1 through 53 that is arguably the best in football.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And arguably the best in their conference. What? There's not many better situations or set-ups for teams to go win the Super Bowl. Chuck Pagan. Okay, so I understand that there's a mountain, you know, in relation to Kansas City. And I understand Buffalo is fantastic and Josh is fantastic. But Baltimore is the better roster 1 through 53 than those two places. They got a quarterback that's able to stand across the field and be like, I can play with you too.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And so, yeah, like he's got to go win the Super Bowl. No one really cares what Lamar does during the regular season. I think we all love watching it, and it's all awesome and whatnot. But if Lamar has another 4,000 yards and 40 touchdown season, it's not going to be like, we're going to change our perspective on him. No one's going to. Lamar's got to go in the Super Bowl. Same could be said for Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I don't think Josh has the 1 through 53 roster that Lamar does, but Lamar's got to go in Super Bowl. I respect that. And Connor tried to get you to acknowledge it. Chuck Pagano also senior assistant for that defense. And the only reason why he's doing that is because, A, he loves hardball, loves that Ravens team, but he's trying to win a Super Bowl. You know, Chuck says all his friends, all his friends have Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:41:27 You know, he goes to an event, golf outing, everybody's introduced, okay? Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, former head coach of the Indianapolis Colts and defense coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns, Miami University. University of Miami, Chuck Pagano. Boo! Everybody loves him. That was Connor.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Sorry, I mean, look, I'm assuming they're cheering loud for the Super Bowl rings, but they're not cheering the same for all Italian of the year, 2024, Chuck Pagano. I forgot he was the most Italian Italian, too. You can add that into the entirety of it all. But yes, I think
Starting point is 00:42:04 I think he strictly looking for Super Bowl ring, but I only wanted to do it in a culture that he loved, you know. And it's like Baltimore is a great place for him to go to. And he talks about Hamilton over there on that side of the defense like he is one of one. Lamar one of one. Derek Henry, obviously, I think he was ranked top 10 on the player's top 100 list. And what every year this is for him, running backs aren't supposed to be this great this long. Their offensive line is good. I hope Baltimore does it just strictly
Starting point is 00:42:32 because that city is going to be outrageous if they win. Think of butter and think of Jimmy's famous seafood if the Baltimore Ravens go on. I don't know if either of them survive. If the Baltimore Ravens win a Super Bowl, but I'm pulling for him. Now, the Buffalo bills have paid everybody. So you say like one through 53, it's not good of a roster. It's like they've gone all in though. I mean, they've literally paid everybody. So there's a lot of pressure up there in Buffalo, I think, as well. Not to undercut your take, but I think that is very, very true. Now let's go to a team that has a lot of pressure on and a guy that has a lot of pressure on it, but it doesn't get really talked about because it's Los Angeles. Justin Herbert tonight,
Starting point is 00:43:09 obviously big game. Same with Patrick Mahomes. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Dan, what do you think about tonight's game? The game in Brazil last year, we all remember the field was a massive question mark. And also wearing green was a massive question mark. And now the Chiefs and Chargers are down there. Gun to my head this morning, if you told me to name a Chargers defensive lineman, I would have told you shoot me because I didn't really know who was on their defense, not too sure about it.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Thinking about the Chiefs here, just being a former New England Patriots, you know, dynasty watching that my whole entire life, It feels like every time Brady lost the Super Bowl, they came back to next year and either went to the AFC championship or won the Super Bowl. How does the, you know, Chargers hang around with the Chiefs tonight and going forward? Mackay Beckton, I believe, is now questionable with an illness for tonight. That was an update this hour. How do you see tonight going and why is it not Chiefs minus three? Because it feels really obvious.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I think tonight's going to be a great football game. You know, the Chargers played last year. against the Chiefs. They lost, I think, 1710 and 1917. So two tight games. I think the Chiefs win tonight. I do. What I'm fucking... Yeah? Is that right? That's crazy. Amazing. Yeah, that's awesome. We think so, too. Good. I didn't want to hear it. Start an offensive line. Oh, I ain't got to go back. You're in wherever the hell you are. There's no service all the way back to the beginning, yeah. Now you look like a finger painting, but we probably still hear you. You want me to go again, or do you want just Dan to go again, Pat? Well, we're not. I'm
Starting point is 00:44:40 to reconnect. Yeah, Dan's all able. Driving to it. Funny you say that. It's Dan, no, go, oh, whenever you talk about, Dan Rolovsky. But everything you pointed out there about that Chargers team, we're in that building. I love their culture. Love it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I love their building. I love Coach Harbaugh. I love Justin Herbert. I love Derwin James. You know, is Khalil still over there? He is. Talk about not knowing a D-Linman. I guess he's outside of linebacker.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I don't know. It was just kind of a joke. This morning, I was really. trying to go through who's on that team. But with Bosa, aside from Bosa and Mac, I wasn't sure. And then I remember Keenan Allen is back too as well. But I mean, it's not as many players that like you're like thinking of notable names personally. It's almost a good.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Question again. From the top. Okay. From the top. Dan, good to see you. Always a pleasure. That's not true. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:34 So Chargers chiefs tonight in Brazil. Last year, field sucked. This year, hopefully not the deal. I made the green color joke about not wearing it down there. What's the deal with the game tonight? Do you see the Chiefs blowing them out? Joey Bosts the place for the bills. I think it's a good football game tonight.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I think the Chargers, if you go back to last year, like lost 1917 to the Chiefs in 1917, 10. The concerns tonight with 40% of the offensive line, you know, with Slater being out. So that gives me some reservations. This is a really good defense for the Chargers. They keep the ball in front of them. That's kind of Jesse Minter, who's their defensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:46:16 That's their MO. They're going to force Kansas City to, you know, be patient, try to throw the ball. So I expect, you know, the Chargers to play a good physical style of football. Trey Harris and name to keep, pay attention to tonight. He's their, I think, second round wide receiver out of Ole Miss. Ladd McClanky was the guy last year. They need someone outside of Lad to really step forward. They go back and get Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:46:39 How much can he kind of make an impact as that is he the number two for them? He's the number three for them. So I think Trey Harris and just can he really become that second wide receiver for them. So they got to protect, no doubt. I think Kansas City is a little bit more intriguing to me because one, I do believe the Chiefs offense needs to change a little bit. I think we've heard all offseason and rightfully so. We want the deep ball back.
Starting point is 00:47:05 We want the deep ball back. There's two ways to do the deep ball in football. One, I got a person I can just line up there and throw it to them deep. That's A.J. Brown. The chiefs do not have that. Or two, you have to be able to run play action and stretch the defense vertically. You've got to have speed to do that. You've got to have time to do that.
Starting point is 00:47:23 They have the speed. Hollywood Browns, if you're worthy, Thornton, do they have the time? Does the new left side matter? You know, with Simmons and Kingsley on that left, do they matter? Are they a viable starting left side offensive line-wise? because this Chargers defense does have some impactful edge rushers that are really good players, okay? So that's the number one thing, and do they call it?
Starting point is 00:47:48 I want to see how different that offense is. Now, no Rashir Rice. Rishie Rice is their best receiver. Who steps into that role? Because all they did with the Rishi Rice last year was get them running, get them running, get them running. Who's that guy? Is it going to be Travis?
Starting point is 00:48:00 It's going to be Juju? So I'm a little bit more intrigued to see what that Chief's offense looks like coming. off of that obviously Super Bowl disaster. Do you think they, okay, do you think the Super Bowl disaster wakes them up, though? Chiefs have been very difficult to bet with for a large part of a lot of regular season football games. You're looking at a guy that has lost maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars
Starting point is 00:48:28 betting on the Kansas City Chief during the regular season over the last three, four years. Are you serious? I don't know. I just did, I just did some quick math in my head. and I remember a couple big days kind of disappearing for my account and just thinking to myself, the Chief is still the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:48:44 But I wish the Chiefs would be a little bit more of the Chiefs, okay? So that is kind of my thing. The Chiefs always, they feel like the guy. I stopped gambling last year, just gave out picks. Don't watch Taylor.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Bet on the Chiefs a couple times. It's just, I believe in great. Like, I believe in great. I always have since I'm a little boy. Getting a chance to meet Randy Moss on Monday. It was so cool like in person having a chance to chat with them because that's like greatness. Like everything I've heard about him, I love
Starting point is 00:49:17 that. Coach Prime, same thing. You're talking about like, I enjoy goats. What they did to get there. How much sacrifice? How much commitment? Like you don't just fall to the top of the mountain. And I think a lot of people think that whenever they get to the top, they get a lot of attention and they start hating them. I respect that.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You can hate whoever you want to hate. And people throw rocks at things that shine. Shout out to Travis Kelsey's fiance for that entire thing. But those two and that entire crew have worked their asses off to get to that point. So I respect the grind to become the great. And every time I see them, I'm like, yeah, they're going to beat shit out of this team. Three and a half? No problem.
Starting point is 00:49:51 It's Can't City Chiefs. And then every regular season game, it feels like they are just one point better than the other team or just however we got to get a win to steal this thing. Do you think that Super Bowl wakes them up and maybe makes them a more dominating type team? Or do you think it's going to be the same shit with this. Kansas Chiefs team as somebody who might dabble in a little bit of a, the Chiefs is still the Chiefs bet this evening on ESPN bet. Oh, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And Mahomes is September record, Pat. That gets brought up every time this time of year comes around. He's like undefeated or he's lost one game in September. It's expensive is what it is. So what I'm saying to you is, is a Super Bowl loss going to be something that maybe turns this team into a different mentality whenever you're a weekend week and week? out is what I'm asking you. And I need an actual answer. I do not believe so. I don't think you go to three, you know, having a mindset that might
Starting point is 00:50:48 need a tweet. I think for me, Pat, it's more the scheme and the people that would take them to a different level than they were able to play offensively last year. Defensively, they're still a pretty solid group. So it's like, I don't think that Super Bowl loss is going to make, you know, Patrick hungrier or Travis hungrier or, you know, you know, get some of the other i think this is a very hunger group i still sit there and i go they got they got it they got to evolve schematically i firmly believe that i think that might be something coming off of the super bowl loss realizing oh we we we we we could have just played drop back ball anymore and we couldn't protect so again that's why i go to like is the left side good enough
Starting point is 00:51:26 and is the scheme you know giving them the opportunity to throw the ball downfield i think this offense is going to look very different in november than it does this tonight in september because Inover she writes. So, you know, like I maybe crystallize their thoughts. But then again, Pat, like the division's better. You know, like the division's better. The charges are a better football team right now than they were last year. So it's like, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I think this is a great football team that is great players and it's a great organization. But I don't think like last year's Super Bowl lost changes how they go about their business. All right. Quickly. Last question. Let's stay in the ABC West. Bo Nix only looks for his first read, then he panics. That's what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Did you hear that as well? I did it. Who said this? Jeffrey Simmons of Tennessee Titans says that, you know, when he watched Bo Nix, he gets to his first read, if that's not open, and he scrambles and runs for his life. And then Sean Peyton respond to him. I think he's worried about the game.
Starting point is 00:52:26 You know, he does the entire give and take. Bo Nicks, we're all expecting to be great, right? A lot of people think of the Denver Broncos are going to be the team that maybe goes on a run in this entire rate. see with how great their defense is. We only have like a couple minutes, a minute or two here. Bo Nix's about to have a huge year or two in your eyes. Yeah, I believe Bo Nix takes a big jump.
Starting point is 00:52:45 It kind of carries over what we saw at the last half of last season. You guys hear me say this. There's three things, I think, all quarterbacks in specifically young ones need to play at a really high level. One, do you have the scheme and the play caller to really hurt defenses? Check. Two, do you have the offensive line to give you the time to do it? Check.
Starting point is 00:53:03 and then three, do you have the proper amount of weapons to get the football to? And I'm not telling everybody, I think, yes, my answer is, but I'm not telling everybody like they got Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, but I like Sutton. I think Franklin's going to take a step forward. I'm a MIMS guy. I think the addition of Evan Ingram gives them people to get the ball to in space. I think Bo Nix is going to have a really, really good year. I think in your super-duper prediction special with Peter Schreger, who we love, by the way,
Starting point is 00:53:30 You said the Broncos went in the division, I believe, right? Didn't you have them coming out of the AFC West? Wow. Yeah, I do. I mean, 10 and 7 last year with $89 million a dead cap space. A dead cap space is gone. I think it's best lines of scrimmage, offensive and defensive line. Raining defensive player of the year, it's a loaded roster.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I think they're going to be a very, very good football team. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, Orlovsky, joining us on your ventures from New York through no service town to Bristol. You're the man. weekend. Later, bud. Later, guys. Thanks, Dan.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Happy season. Happy season, Dan. Happy season, Dan. Is that an order, Pat? Is that an order? He said, scheme and play caller for quarterback. Scheme, play caller, offensive line, and then weapons on the outside of throw two.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Does that how, does he think it's that order, one, two, three as well? For me, offensive lines one, right? In my eyes? Yeah, oh, yeah, if you don't have a good old line, you can't really do anything. But, yeah, the scheme and play caller to me is gigantic. Like, that's huge. I think having a little continuity at that position is obviously good. I think we put together a list the other day off there about how many.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like I guess Blaine Gabbert was kind of the godfather this entire thing. He played for eight different offenses in seven years or seven different offenses in eight years or something like that. I forget the number. I think it was eight coordinators. Do you recall, boys? I think that's what it was. Eight different coordinators in seven years. And B.A. was like, shit, how's he?
Starting point is 00:54:55 How do you? How do you even? Bia was like, I like Blaine. Blaine was very talented. He was very good, but I mean, did he even get a, you know, and then the automatic counter, because Caleb's on like a third offense coordinator already, you know, and then you think about Bryce Young, and then you think about all these younger guys, Trevor Lawrence. I mean, there's a lot of turnover at that offense coordinator position.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And then I would like to counter the argument is like, when Andrew Luck joined our team, we had the number one overall pick because he stunk. And he, his ability just kind of, you know, put the team on his back and we go to the playoffs that year. So it's like, is it the quarterback and the offense getting the offense coordinator fired? Or is the offense coordinator asked, and they're kind of ruining the development of everything? You know, I think those, you can talk, you can chase your tails in that conversation. And I think if you talk to the coordinators, they would say, quarterback, I know the offense. I think that's already happening in Chicago, right? And then you talk to the players, and they're like,
Starting point is 00:55:53 well, how am I supposed to learn four different languages in three years? I don't know how I'm supposed to play. So it's a, that's a crazy thing. But yes, I think continuity is a big deal. I still believe, though, the offensive line is the only thing that, like, must have for success. And I think that's going to be very, very prevalent this year in college and in the NFL, just like it was last year, AJ. Yeah, the offensive line situation, it's true. Like, you're trying to constantly cover up for having a poor line. If you don't have it, like, okay, hey, we would love to run this late developing route, these routes downfield, but we have no chance. Even if we try to max protect. We can't keep our guy up right. We're going to got a quarterback killed. And then
Starting point is 00:56:28 if you can't run the ball, too, if you can get no push up front, it would be a helpless feeling, I think, to be an offensive coordinator, especially in the NFL, and realize that you don't have the dudes up front. It really would. Yes. And as a quarterback, you start looking at the rush. You keep your head down. Remember, Nick Bosa said about Jalen, he said, we're able to get his eyes down as soon as you give a little pressure. Felt like Jalen sat in there last night. I really, I enjoyed Jalen, and I enjoyed DEC. That was a great start to the NFL. We got a huge weekend and a huge game tonight. Our two will be on the other side. We've got Nick Saban and coach
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Starting point is 00:57:44 Football! Nailed it, Pat. What's the like? How was the break? What's going on there? I know we have Coach Saban come on here, hopefully 10, 15 minutes. What's the vibe like over there?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Coach Saban has arrived. I'll tell you what, his aura greatness certainly is felt upon arrival here in the stadium, obviously getting miced up. We'll talk to him in a few moments. I ran to the bathroom, got a chance to experience the world here. You know, I like the pizzage that Coach Saban's coming with this. Bang. I mean, that was right back.
Starting point is 00:58:09 What do you think this is? And I genuinely appreciate that. Listening to him chit-chat in the production meeting and obviously the passion he has for the sport is great. He's an entertaining West Virginia dude, though. I mean, Coach Sabin is an entertaining man. who's forgot more about football than all of us have ever learned. And it's an honor to work with him. But I like that he just immediately hit me with that thing back.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I like that. I like that that's where we're at week one. And I appreciate, I mean, those are some big pointers. I mean, those things are gigantic. Yeah, shout out to rule. Shout out to my rule, rule, ruleman, ruleman. Yep. Good guy.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Good guy. Rule, rule. Rulman. Call him rule, though. You know, rule, is what I say. He's stage manager for college game day, Monday night football. I don't know if he's ever home. The guy's always on the road seemingly on stages for ESPN.
Starting point is 00:59:02 He had that last year, one of the weeks, he had like a huge one. And he, like, showed it to me. And I was like, yes, that is definitely what we're looking for. And I think you guys remember, I pulled that thing out, and I looked like the biggest asshole of all this. Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome. It was everything I had dreamed of, everything I had dreamed of whenever I came to that. And then it seemed like all of the pointers started getting longer and longer for everybody as the season went on.
Starting point is 00:59:25 And in first week, we all got to seven-footers, I think. And I'll tell you what, at some point, all those things are going to be pointing at the screen. And that's going to be legendary television. That's what people will come to watch. And, yeah, it's cool, man. I just went to the bathroom. You get a chance to see, you know, some of the people that are working here. Their excitement for the weekend.
Starting point is 00:59:42 It's like college ball takes over, you know, everybody's break. There's kids waiting outside of game day right now. It was 10.30 a.m. Really? Dude. 10.30 a.m. I think the kid's name was, uh, oh, Josh maybe. Oh, I forget what it was.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Sitting outside, he's going to try to do the kick. You've got to be one of the first 300 people in, obviously, to get one of the tickets, raffle tickets, and then randomly selected. But yeah, there's people already sitting out there out here. It's like you forget how much these people love football. You know, Oklahoma hasn't really been in the national conversation in a huge way in, in some time, I would say. Bennebill is a big deal.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah, Baker. Jalen, too, I guess. Jaylen did some cooking when he was here. I thought about him as I was walking in the stadium. I'm like, oh, Jalen called this place home for a while when Lincoln Rock. Like, I just think that this place loves ball. And this John Mateer guy, I think,'s got a lot of people excited. You know, Venables' defense is obviously going to confuse people.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Like Bryce Underwood coming in here as a freshman, 18-year-old, there's probably going to be a lot of shit Venables is ready for. But on the other side, Mateer, he's taking on wink up there in Michigan. This kid's a player. This kid's a real player. and I'm excited for tomorrow. I think everybody here is as well, and I'm lucky to be here.
Starting point is 01:00:52 We've got a huge NFL game the night, too, leading into this weekend of greatness, and then Saturday night, huge games, Sunday night, huge game, Monday night, huge game. It's like, God damn, it's a great time to be alive. The Toxic Table at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt. Conman, you came in yesterday saying, Cowboys, plus eight and a half, easiest bet of the season.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Literally, as soon as I saw you in the morning, You were so jacked up about ball playing yesterday and your bed that you were talking to random people on the street. You were rolling down window with purple sunglasses, that big ass hair in Indiana by 7.30, 8 a.m. in the morning in the middle of traffic saying, hey, have a good day. Thank you, beer service. Nobody was sending anything back to you.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Then you get in the Thunderdum, you're like, I need somebody. I need somebody. And you came in and you were like eight and a half, cowboys. This is easy. And you were met with a lot of resistance. self-included because immediately it's like you think of all the negative about the cowboys all the negative how jerry even openly admitted it's not about winning all the time it's about you know being a part of it makes it up he even says that so you it's so negative about the
Starting point is 01:02:00 cowboys and then by the end of the show i was fully in like yeah this is Connor was spot on since the morning as you're watching that game you feel great about your feel that you had going into the season and what do you think about the two teams from last night yeah as we're watching the game it is one those things like man I just really hope we kind of can bottle this and continue this on for the rest of the season which I completely plan to do but it just felt like too much it feels like going into every year the last thing that we you know have as far as taste in our mouth is you know that Super Bowl team and how great they are and that's what it was with the Eagles and as great as they are eight and a half points is just always too much in an NFL game in these early weeks especially
Starting point is 01:02:41 college football week one you know the public went 0 of 5 now NFL it's kind of carried over public is 0 and 1 both teams though like we've kind of said if you feel good about the cowboys feel good about the eagles if you're a fan of either of these teams cowboys feel like a really tight team you know they're fighting for each other that rivalry is very alive if you're an eagles and cowboys fan you're happy that your teams hate each other I know when you're watching those scrums those scruffles, whatever. If you're a fan of football, you love it, but if you're a fan of these teams, yeah, wasn't this good to see? That's probably getting, it's like nostalgia. Like, hey, this is, this is a rivalry thing. These teams hate each other, hopefully. No jersey swaps. There,
Starting point is 01:03:22 there wasn't going to be any, you know, Booker. This is real here. Oh, yeah. I enjoy this. Oh, yeah. You love that about football. That got me all jacked up immediately. Spitting on the deck. I mean, most people love that, but in a game, not really the situation for it. But no, again, Eagles and Cowboys, man. I feel like it was a great start to primetime football. I think it's going to continue tonight, and I'm just jacked up that we get to talk about football instead of some of the ball we've had to deal with since the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:03:55 It was great. AJ, just hanging out? Oh, yeah, I'm just hanging out. My bad right here. I don't know if Coach Saban was ready or not, but Tone, didn't you have something for the betters on either or not last night, but maybe this weekend, the Oklahoma game, Oklahoma versus Michigan? Yeah, like Pat talks about
Starting point is 01:04:08 the spread is five and a half but if you want to look at it, it's a low total for the game. I think it's like 44 and I think a lot of it has to do with what Pat was talking about with Venables going up against a freshman quarterback and then Wink going up against Mateer who there's questions about the Oklahoma offense. So
Starting point is 01:04:25 I think that low total 44 I think it is is an indication of what potentially could be a hard fought close game in Norman Oklahoma age. Nice, okay. Pat, you have a, you got a little special guest I think who is on miced up now, right? AJ, you're doing a great job out there, point guard in this entire thing.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Ladies and gentlemen, Amanda, does not need to be introduced, but we certainly will. The greatest college football coach of all time, Coach Nick Sabers here. Yeah, that makes best. Thank you. You hear the claps? I heard them. Hey, yeah, coach. Hey, yeah, look you good, coach.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I love these guys. You should have brought them with you. Yeah, I think we, next week, potentially, as long as, uh, yeah, as long as West, the big weekend, only three and a half point spread. Don't love that in Athens, Ohio. Rich Rod's about to run them off the field. I think you'll see all the boys next week, hopefully, if everything handles that. Let's talk about you and your name, okay?
Starting point is 01:05:16 We talked a little bit about it on Monday whenever we did the kickoff show. I thought that was fun, by the way. Yeah, it was. I enjoyed that. Saw Randy, Teddy. It was great to work with Matt Berry. That's my first time ever doing that. That was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And you talked a little bit about Alabama at that point because you were kind of forced to. Your name is being mentioned a lot. You are the standard for all the Alabama fans. They are comparing everything that happens with the players. years, with their treatments, with the product on the field, with everything, to you and how you ran that place for so long. That is a massive compliment. Tough for Kalyn DeBoer to come in there and put it in his own culture, but everybody knew following you that was going to be the case. Now there were five days removed. On Monday, your message was
Starting point is 01:05:52 like, hey, you can lay an egg, but weeks one to week two is where you get your, your biggest progress in your team. And maybe they got smacked in the mouth and maybe they're better. You were trying to spin it into a positive way, I think, because a lot of Alabama fans are going to listen to everything you're saying. As we see, you see, it here on Friday. What are your thoughts? And what do you think Kaylin has been telling his team? And how do you think the role-tied world is really feeling about it all at this point? Yeah, well, you know, my message was, you know, basically when you have a negative consequence and you don't teach and do a good job of identifying what do we need to fix so the players
Starting point is 01:06:25 have something that they can relate to, if you don't teach, it really creates, affects morale in a negative way. So I think you've got to be positive and show the players when they did it right. Here's the success we had. When we didn't do it right, whether it was even one player, didn't do it right, maybe that's why they had success. But I do think that there was something in that game
Starting point is 01:06:47 that is tough to understand, in my opinion, in that Alabama looked great going down the field on the first drive. Florida State gets a ball and goes right down the field and scores. And then the whole sort of psychological disposition of Alabama's team changed, for what reason? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Was it anxiety? Was it expectation. But one thing about coaching in Alabama, they expect you to win every game and there's a high expectation and the standard is really, really high for what you're supposed to accomplish and what you're supposed to do. You need to protect your players from that and give them a different way to compete in the game so they're not looking at the scoreboard. They're not worrying about the outcome. They can stay focused on the things that they need to do to compete in the game for 60 minutes and play one play at a time. So they're not worried about that. Because that's all they hear everywhere they go on social media everywhere they go they're expected to win
Starting point is 01:07:39 so you can't let that creep in and that anxiety about being outcome oriented affect their performance what do you think and i know you know him and you're in the building and you obviously care deeply about the alabama football program we actually call this show a program because of how you describe your program whenever you're at alabama in its entirety tayland deborce sits down after that game looks in a mirror it has a massive moment with a himself, you think, is that one of those types of games where it gets loud enough that you think he is really, I don't want to say in a whirlwind, but the reality of what he is signed up to do kind of hits him. You think that happened after week one? I don't think there's any question
Starting point is 01:08:18 about it. You know, Kaelin is a really good guy. He's a good coach. He's always had success everywhere he's been. Maybe he hadn't had to deal with this kind of scrutiny in the past. But if you're going to be successful, you've got to be able to self-assess and figure out, hey, what can I do better? And I know that he's reaching out to a lot of people trying to do that. And hopefully they get turned around this week and develop some confidence on this team so they can move forward in a positive way.
Starting point is 01:08:45 How many national championships did you win? Seven. How many did you lose? Three. Okay, so, Kaelin DeBoer, when you talk about big shoes to fill, I don't know how long all your national championships are, the trophies when you stack them up. But boy, it feels like,
Starting point is 01:09:03 Those shoes were going to be tough to fit. And Kaelin DeBoer, we thought, was going to be the right guy to handle it, still has a chance, right? We shouldn't just give up completely on this entire situation, which I think a lot of people are. I think a lot of people have given up. There's a lot of season left, right? We can still think that way that way the players should think. That's the way the coaches should think. And actually, they've got to stay focused on what they need to do to teach and get better,
Starting point is 01:09:26 create roles for the players on their team and how they can support the team. You know, there's one thing about this that you and I, when we played, you know, we wanted to do well. We wanted to be good. But we also had a responsibility of those guys over there stand on the sidelines that was on our team. And that's a responsibility that everybody's got to figure out in this day and age of football when there's so much individual name image and likeness, transfer. Once you decide and make a commitment to a team, you've got to do a good job for yourself, but you also owe it to the guy standing on the sidelines or in the hudder with you.
Starting point is 01:10:00 and I think that's an important thing for all these guys to understand. I mean, obviously the loaves are just so abnormal for any Alabama team that we've seen throughout my lifetime because you've been the coach basically there throughout the most, all in my adulthood. I think the reason why never happened is because you had like four or five stars at every position. So they were scared to death the loaf because the guy behind him might Wally Pipp the shit out. I mean, there's a chance that that's going to happen. Just didn't feel that way first week, but Dan Rolowski counted 21 Loves. he watched every player every play
Starting point is 01:10:31 yeah well I think all coaches want that but you know the one thing I always nobody wants to be insignificant and you always have the bench and if a guy didn't do what he was supposed to do he knew that he would you know and it didn't matter who it was you know I mean you got the bench national championship you did it and let's talk about that national championship you making that move Jalen Hertz last night
Starting point is 01:10:53 I don't know how much of a game you got to see he's playing phenomenal footballer yeah he played great I watch first first half and he's only going to get better though right with his characteristics and his traits it feels like he literally a worker committed to the game addicted to the game great teammate he's only going to get better and better if we were to give a what is that personality profile on jalen hertz that would be the read on him no question i mean if you just look at what jalen hertz has done from when he got taken out of the national championship game and two i got put in to the improvements that he's made
Starting point is 01:11:23 as a passer, as a quarterback, as a leader. I mean, this guy is driven to be the best that he can be, and he works at it every day, and nothing affects him. And I just love the guy, and I love that he's having such great success now with the Eagles, not only at his position, but helping his team be successful. He's awesome to watch. Awesome. He's a lot of fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Him and Siriani and Philadelphia feel like the perfect marriage. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Coach, pivot back to the college game. obviously your good friend Bill Belichick had a tough one on Monday night against TCU I guess can you explain how tough it is to win in college football especially when you first show up and you get to a program everyone just assumes hey here we go we're going undefeating we're making a run at the college football playoffs like how tough is it to win especially when you've been there what six months four months I don't know
Starting point is 01:12:10 yeah well I think the most important thing is is you win with people and you got to have a good roster and you got to have an opportunity to develop that roster and I think they got in there kind of late in January, probably being new, got behind the eight ball a little bit, didn't do as well in the portal was that it liked to maybe in January. So they've got work to do in terms of the players that they have. I mean, the tackling on defense wasn't very good. Obviously, the turnovers for two scores wasn't very good. There's a lot of things they can work on. There's a lot of things that they can improve, and I'm sure Bill will go to work on that. But I do think that there's also people need to have patience in the fact that you've got to have a chance to get good players and have a chance to develop those players together as a group.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I, um, that TCU team really good. We didn't say a single thing about it the whole point. That pissed them off. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They definitely knew that. Yeah, they were very aware of the Bill Belichick Bowl that was happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:13 And they were thinking to themselves, second half of the season last year, one of the hottest teams in America. We return a lot of starters. Our quarterback can spin it, and they had a lot of size. They got off the bus, and I think Bill Belichick, even with his cut off sweatshirt. We're in some shit today, I think. I think bigger, stronger, faster than us. And when you talk about having the guys, that first drive, I thought to myself, of course, Bill Belichick's going to be able to out-fund fundamentals these people. He's going to be a smarter coach. He's going to be able to draw a place. He's going to be able to out-technique the other team. They're going to go on a run. I thought they were going to host a college football
Starting point is 01:13:47 playoff team. In the middle of that first drive, I'm jacked up. I'm like, here he is. This is exactly what we came for. This is why we're here. And then all of a sudden, Sunny Dykes had some adjustments to make, too, it sounded like. And nobody even thought about Sonny having a brain. He's been coaching a long time. They beat these shit out of that North Carolina Tardio's team. What is it now for Bill? Trying to keep everybody optimistic about the plans that he potentially has? What are your thoughts on that? They got Charlotte on. Saturday. That's a must win. Yeah, must win, no doubt.
Starting point is 01:14:17 But look, I think TCU does have a very good team. You know, this Josh Hoover guy is the real deal with quarterback. They were so much more physical in the way they looked on the field than North Carolina. So, yeah, I think, and I also think
Starting point is 01:14:33 they were fired up in this game. You know, when you feel like you're disrespected, you know, you can say all you want about motivation. But when people disrespect somebody, I always thought that that was a great motivator. You know, we played Vanderbilt a couple years
Starting point is 01:14:49 ago, and I'm sitting there and I cannot sleep all night because I'm saying, what am I going to say to the team to get the team fired up to play Vanderbilt? Like we're undefeated, Dave. So they beat Kansas State the week before we played them. And one of their players get on TV and says, Bama's next.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I would have paid that guy a $100,000 to say that. And we were ahead, like, 49 nothing and half time. But our team was pissed. TCU was pissed in this game. Because they didn't get any attention. They felt irrelevant. And they got a good team. They really do. But I do think that it's going to be a real test for Bill to get the players to stay committed to what he's trying to do and that they make the improvements that they need to make so they can have a success this week against Charlotte. I love to hear that. And that kid from Vandy just know,
Starting point is 01:15:39 Coach Saban did here, and you were the reason. A lot of times you wonder, like I do wonder if I'm bulletin board material. You and Vandy have a great relationship, especially on this particular show. It might have been in this. It was. Was it in this stadium? Yep, pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:15:55 When you said, everywhere in the SEC is tough to play, except for Vanderbilt. And then obviously, Diego Pavia and the boys beat Alabama. They dragged the uprights through Broadway. It was like, obviously, a huge moment. but I think what you were saying is pre-Diego Pavia Pavia Pavia? Pavia? Pavia. I'm not sure
Starting point is 01:16:15 because Pacheco's Pacheco, no. I'm so sorry. Pavia. Well, Pacheco is actually Puerto Rican, I do believe. He was down there at the Babani concert exchanging jerseys. So you say it's Pavia?
Starting point is 01:16:29 Gumpy said. Whatever it is. Gumpy China. Diego changed all of Vanderbilt. And the NIL was obviously great for them. But I appreciate the fact that you're, I'm trying to tell a boy, I mean, we're playing Vandy. Jesus, I don't even know. And then all of a sudden, the kid, like, you just like hitting the lottery, basically, at that moment is a beautiful thing to think about.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Hopefully, Kaelin, DeBoer's listening because Alabama fans are listening to what he's saying. Now, let's talk about this game that's happening here. Defense is going to be a big conversation, especially with the names involved. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, Pat and I were talking about it earlier this week, how, you know, Venables and Wink Martindale, probably two of the best defensive coordinators in the country going up. you know, Wink has got an 18-year-old in Bryce, or sorry, Venables has an 18-year-old and Bryce Underwood that he's going up against,
Starting point is 01:17:13 and Wink has got, you know, mater in an offensive line that might have some question marks. I know you've gone up against Venables, probably Wink, too, in the past. How hard is it going to be for those young quarterbacks to go up against those guys? Because we just watched Arch do it last week against Matt Patricia. Yeah, well, I think it's going to be a challenge for both, and it'll be interesting to see how they respond. You know, Bryce Underwood is a very talented guy. This will be his first game on the road in a tough environment
Starting point is 01:17:40 against a defensive coordinator that's going to get him a lot of looks, a lot of disguises, change the picture after the snap, and how he reacts to that is going to be really, really important. But I will say this. Michigan was a totally different team offensively last week because of Bryce Underwood. There's no doubt about that. And this material guy that Oklahoma has, he's a talented guy.
Starting point is 01:18:00 They couldn't run the ball. And I'm going to tell you, Wink is going to create pressure every opportunity he gets to create negative plays. And how Oklahoma handles that is going to be really, really important in this game. Because if he can create positive damage distance and put his third down package in there and do all this crazy stuff he does, they're going to have a hard time with it because of the offensive line, not necessarily because of the quarterback. Coach Saban, you feel like maybe Oklahoma has to represent for the SEC here?
Starting point is 01:18:27 You know, Big Ten team coming to time? Oh, yeah. You know what's been happening? You know what's been happening? We always talk about that. I never think about it. I just kind of look at the teams, but there is a rival with there between the Big Ten and the SEC that can't be denied.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Well, that's because, you know, at the end when the college football playoffs being talked about, there's a lot of Greg Sanky coming on going, if you can survive the South, go ahead and do it. You know, there's a lot of that. And I respect the culture of SEC football and playing an away game in the SEC is insane everywhere, except for it. But it is like a real thing. Like that is a huge part of college ball is the tradition and the environment
Starting point is 01:19:09 and how hard it is to play at places. And it can turn somebody from being a great player into an average player. I agree with that. But the north, the north is talking a lot of shit right now. Rightfully so, too. Rightfully so. The north is talking a lot of shit right now. Can I have a perspective on this?
Starting point is 01:19:25 You can. Yes, sir. And you get an ISO camera. Watch this. I think that the SEC, was the SEC because of the culture in the South. There wasn't professional football in the South for a long time, and everybody related to the colleges.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Okay, we talked about that before. Well, now that doesn't matter. I mean, kids grew up wanting to go to LSU. Kids grew up wanting to go to Alabama. Kids grew up wanting to go to Georgia. Got the money now. They don't mind going to Ohio State. They don't mind going to other places.
Starting point is 01:19:55 So that geographic advantage that the Southeast Conference had may be changing a little bit now with a different culture with name image and likeness and money involved in decision making and I think that's created a little bit of an edge for the for the big 10 I will say this the big 10 has a lot of money you know like everybody's going to say what they say about that whole thing but like I don't think then I don't think we all understood how much money all the north has big 10 like did we understand that Penn State had all the money I don't think I knew that even as somebody that grew up in Pittsburgh, had a lot of friends that were Penn Stateers, and obviously a member of that cult,
Starting point is 01:20:34 it's like, I didn't know they had so much money. We just knew they were insufferable. Yeah, and just assumed the South had money, too. Yeah. Yeah, we assumed, yeah, exactly. But then you think of Penn State, and it's like they needed $700 million to upgrade a stadium. I was like four calls for the athletic director, and they're like, wait, are we going to win in all the sports? Yeah, okay, we would like to do that.
Starting point is 01:20:54 We are sick at talking to the Ohio State people. We're sick at talking to the Michigan people. By the way, both of them fully committed, let alone Oregon getting into the game, the way that they've gotten into the game. We assume that a lot of these Big Ten schools will have the capabilities to go. We did assume, though, that the South was going to be able to keep up. I think naturally I always thought that there would be a lot of money from a lot of these schools in the South. It just feels like the Big Ten has more alumni, I guess, with more money, and that's a big part of the game right now. I think Texas and Texas A&M probably have that kind of old-fashioned money.
Starting point is 01:21:28 A lot of the schools in the Southeastern Conference don't have that old generation or wealth. But I just wanted to ask AJ about the money they have at Ohio State. I'm sure he... Hey, they're working every day to keep bringing in more, Coach. You know, that's the tough thing. If you bring it in, we've got to reload next year and bring in double. AJ actually hosts events at his house to raise money for these guys. The reason why Julian Sane is now the quarterback at Ohio State is because AJ did a full song and dance in his side yard,
Starting point is 01:21:57 dressed up like who was it? Who did you dress up at that one event? No, I'm not going to bite on this one. He left because Coach Saban retired. That's why Julian Cain is the quarterback at a house. No, not because you go out to that cruise. You used to raise money for hospitals. Now we're kind of splits.
Starting point is 01:22:12 It's still hospitals. We got a side house party. They used to go to hospitals. Okay, half the money to go to hospital. Let's make sure we can use some games. There are an aisle. It's popping up all over, though. It is weird to see, like, things that are,
Starting point is 01:22:27 strictly for NIL money. Like, that happens? Was that the dinner? Was that the dinner you were at? Remember seeing him at dinner the other day? He didn't talk to us at all. They ignored us. He did ignore us.
Starting point is 01:22:36 The whole damn time. It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. I mean, you talk about getting big time. Yes. Oh, boy. I was talking to Kirk's boys. I was talking to Kirk's boys over at the kid table.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, right. You were four feet behind, maybe two feet behind you. Oh, yeah. Didn't say a word. I kept peeking over trying to talk to you guys, and he acted like he didn't know me. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, right. We were looking for conversation. I mean, you know, we're exploring the space in there. All right, let's keep it moving. Conman has a question for you, Coach, Saban. Yeah, Coach, not the only big game in the SEC is Michigan, Oklahoma. Texas is taking on San Jose States. Georgia is taking on Austin P. And I believe Alabama has Louisiana Monroe.
Starting point is 01:23:19 What the hell are we doing? All these games suck. It is Titans versus high school teams, essentially. and we're going to act like these games really matter. Why are these games on a schedule? I'm sure there's a legitimate reason that I really don't know and I'm sure you actually do know.
Starting point is 01:23:35 And how much longer are we going to do this song and dance before you know there's basically games that mean something every week? Because this is kind of the argument everyone has when you know these major big 10 teams play teams of this nature and then these major SEC teams play these teams
Starting point is 01:23:51 because it's basically just like well I'm not going to watch that because Texas should win by 50. Whoa. Yeah, well, you know, first of all, there's two things. First of all, the way the playoff is set up, you get penalized a lot more for losing than you do a big win. All right. So that shouldn't be that way.
Starting point is 01:24:11 We should have a culture where you enhance people to play a better schedule, and by playing better schedule and beating more good teams, you have a better chance to get in the playoffs, even if you lose a couple along the way. So that's number one. so there's no incentive for a college team to play a tough schedule because you're going to get penalized for a bad loss. I don't like that. I hope we change it. I've submitted things to try to change it. Save it metrics. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I've got to say this real quick because this hasn't really been talked about. I mentioned it on college game day. He actually has a scoring system that they could use, a point system throughout the season that he is crafted. Sounds like it's actually a winner too. The amount of points you get for who you beat, where they're ranked at the time, yada, yada, yada, yada, who you play. against losses to people who are ranked, not ranked.
Starting point is 01:24:56 It's like you really spent a lot of time on this trying to figure it out, I believe, and I think the saving metrics would be a good thing from hearing it behind the scenes. Yeah, and it's very similar to the way they do basketball for tier one wins, tier two wins, and all that kind of stuff. But I think the second thing is, is, you know, we need to change the metrics of like every conference does their own TV. Now, we need to have more of an NFL model, where we have all the major conferences, differences, do a TV deal. And just like the NFL, make sure there's a good game on last night.
Starting point is 01:25:30 There's a good game on every Sunday that people are going to be interested in watching. And then we would have more good games because only the top 70 teams would play each other. And you have to play those teams. All right. So you got better games to watch, better for the fans, create more revenue for the schools, and it would just be better for everybody. So those two things to me are two things that we need to progress. on in college athletics. Top 60 big power four league. They're running off the Sabin metrics.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Then you have to give the smaller conferences, a couple playing spots, you know, just like Mark Magnus said. And we'd give them some of the money, too. Yeah. I mean, it'd be nice. Be nice for everybody. Good for us. Get it done, coach.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Build it coach. Want you to talk to somebody, coach. Yeah, why don't you go talk to somebody? Who are you going to talk to? You got to talk to all the A.Ds, all the presidents, all the conferences and all the networks. Have fun. Lightwork.
Starting point is 01:26:22 I saw a certain president. He didn't let coach go in front of him the other day because he won so many games. That was good to see. Who was that? I didn't see that. What was the clip? It was our sitting active president of the United States of America. Let Coach Saban go in front of him because he won so many games.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Oh, President Trump said, by all means, Sir Nicky Saban, please go this way. That happened? Is that what you're trying to do? You're trying to get this whole thing past? You guys are, well, I mean. What are we? What are we? I would like to know.
Starting point is 01:26:50 It has to happen in Washington some kind of way to come. Congress to probably get some kind of antitrust to get some of these things implemented. You guys are awesome? Yeah, I don't know if that's where that was headed. Ty has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, when you look at a couple of the games this weekend, we have some transfer quarterbacks, you know, for a lack of a better term, not just beating the shit out of some cupcake like they did week one. You got John Mateer, obviously, with the game you guys are at in Oklahoma. And then Mark Gernaski for the Iowa Hawkeyes is going to a,
Starting point is 01:27:24 to play Iowa State. And I guess it just doesn't apply to those guys. This could be, you know, first-time starters too. Is there any preparation or messaging change the week of a massive game like this after you come off week one and you play a team where you just beat the shit out of and you knew you were going to and you're going into a week two game where it's like, okay, hey, lights are bright now. We have a very good opponent. Does that change anything when you're talking to a guy stepping into a new position like that? Well, I don't think there's any question about it. I mean, I always wanted to play, and it's one of the reasons we played all these neutral site games in all my years at Alabama. I wanted to play somebody good, the first game, because I want to see where our team was, but it also impacted the offseason.
Starting point is 01:28:06 You know, the players are fired up to play that first game when you're playing Clemson or Virginia Tech or somebody that's pretty good. So you have a better offseason, you have a better spring, you have a better summer. So I'd rather start out that way to see where we are rather than play an easy team and the players be maybe a little. little more complacent that they had success but weren't challenged so that they understand the challenge of the next game when they will be challenged by a much better team. Have you seen Grinowski? I didn't see them a lot, but I know they didn't have a lot of success throwing a ball. They didn't really need to.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Thank you. We'll see. Tye's an Iowa fan. Ties an Iowa fan. It was tough first drive, even for you though, Tye, watching that. It was, but like coach said, you know, when you rush for 310 yards, it'd be malpractice to have your quarterback drop back 30 times and try to throw for 350. You know, they knew Albany couldn't stop the run.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Let's just get in, get out. You know, Kurtz, if he wins this weekend, he'll be the all-time winning his coach in Big Ten history. So, you know, a lot of the stakes this weekend. Kurt's done a fantastic job there. You know, we coached together to Cleveland Browns with Bill Butlerich. And I think he's done a fabulous job there. But, you know, my approach was always different when we played in games like this. I was trying to make our team better.
Starting point is 01:29:22 So if we needed to improve in the passing game, we're going to pass the ball whether we could run it or not. And because I was always focused on what do we have to do, not just to win the game, but what do we have to do to improve our team? So when we do have to throw it, we're going to be more ready to do it. I think at some point you've got to be able to make a third dime and have to throw it, you know. And that's where Jaylen, yes, I remember. And he threw a touchdown there. Graski threw a touchdown there.
Starting point is 01:29:48 That was really nice ball. I mean, he took that thing. I mean, he threw a full, I mean, that was... Like T-ball, shot put. He did. It looked amazing, and I'm not going to... Kid Waheisman already. D-2, the, whatever they call it now, Heisman.
Starting point is 01:30:03 One-A, yep. National champion, one-D-A Heisman guy. He's been in big moments before. He might be perfect for Kirk's dogs, I'm just saying. But, boy, that first drive was not what Ty was telling me. That is not what Ty was telling me about whenever I watched him play. He's a dog, though. So is.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Nico Marciole, I don't know if you hit West Virginia. Yeah, yeah. But what was that? To the Iowa fans out there, I want to say, y'all need to be worried about Rocco Beck, because that guy's been pretty damn good for two games. Unbelievable. Yeah, so just don't worry about your passing game.
Starting point is 01:30:39 You better worry about stopping his. Well, I mean, they played rugby for a long time and didn't have a passing game, so it would be nice maybe if their quarterback could complete a pass, which he did. Third down, made a big time ball, made a big time throw. touchdown. That's a, boom, absolute dime. Guy from Albany had no shot on that. Guy from Albany had no idea that a D1 AA Heisman winner was going to be throwing darts
Starting point is 01:31:00 right in front of his face. Grinowski might lead this Iowa team to the promised land. Now, Iowa's kicker hit a 55-yarder last week. Iowa State's kicker hit a 63 yarder last week. You're talking big legs at Iowa Iowa State excited for that game. Let's get back to West Virginia because you shoot it off so bad. I don't like what you did that. I don't like what you did there at all. Oh, I just wanted to finish the other point. You know, I'm a mountaineer at heart. Big one. We need to win this.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Big one. That's what I grew up watching. Ohio this weekend? Yeah, the Bobcats. They're good squad. You know, I can't believe how did they schedule that game to play a way? What's that? Oh, a way game?
Starting point is 01:31:36 Aren't they playing. Yeah. Bits a tough years, Coach. Been some tough years of Morgantown, Coach. I don't know if they have a lot of ground standing on. You are winning a lot of things. I don't think you were paying attention when it was going on, the Conner's point.
Starting point is 01:31:46 There's a lot of down there's a lot of time. There's a lot of time. There's a lot of dying times. I got to go on the road a couple times to some of these schools. Yeah. But I'm all for the Mountaineers. I'm hopeful they have success this week. I'd love to see them beat Pitt next week.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Hell yes. We like these things. These are all things we like here. Look out for Scotty Fox, too, freshman quarterback. One for 59 yards last week, about fourth quarter. Jeanne. Jeanne, why, a dog. I have no idea who all on that team.
Starting point is 01:32:14 There's Scottie right there. There he is. That's Scotty Fox. He, first kid, I think, graduated early to get the spring ball. I think it's first West Virginia guy that's done that. And as soon as he arrived as a 17-year-old, the boy said the mocks, he's outrageous. They gravitate to him, is what they say. All right, anyway, sorry about this.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Last question from AJ for Coach Sabin. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Coach, you were talking about making, in those type of games earlier, you're trying to make your team better. In these early games, sometimes when the matchups might be a little lopsided, like how valuable is it to get reps for guys that maybe your second, third team players, these young, inexperienced guys, like, how big is it to get as many players in as possible to where, as the year goes, you know, you're going to need some of them when it really matters in, you know, December, even January?
Starting point is 01:32:56 Oh, I don't think there's any question about the fact that that's really, really important. And when we didn't have a tough game to start with and we played, you know, sort of an easier team, even though we're trying to get our team better, from a personnel standpoint, I looked at it a little bit like an exhibition game. So I knew if we got ahead by 24 points, I was putting two in so he could play quarterback and get reps or whatever because he's a freshman. Or whoever it was at every position, because you're going to need that depth down the road. And to get those guys' experience is really, really important, I think, and an opportunity to help develop your team. Amari Cooper retired yesterday.
Starting point is 01:33:35 That shocked me. Yeah, I think all of us came out of nowhere while we were alive. And when I was told it, the Bruce Brown, who's sitting in for Zito, who we love, and uh congrats to zito and his family the he said umari cooper retired and i was trying to figure out what sport that was from he was like amari cooper and i was like wide receiver yeah i'm like that came out of nowhere i think i don't know how often you'd talk to him right catch up with him but amari cooper was a beast of a football player and uh we appreciate the hell everything he did for the sport yeah well he he caught over a hundred balls for us i mean he was fantastic when he
Starting point is 01:34:09 played for us and he was a great competitor um very quiet guy maybe a little bit of little misunderstood sometime because he was so quiet. But a good person and a great competitor. And he's had a good career. I hate to see people like that, you know, not be able to continue their career for whatever reasons, but I'm sure he's got a good reason to hang it up. Congratulations. Congratulations. Hell of a run. We hope you're happy. That's a tough decision to make. Just like I'm sure it was for you to retire and jump into TV, but we're thankful you did. You crush it every single week with us and on game day. Well, I don't know about all that, but I enjoy it because my biggest concern was being a part of a team.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Not being a part of a team if I retired. And doing this has enabled me to be a part of a team, which you're a part of, which I really appreciate and enjoy that part of it. You know, I like preparing. I like being a part of the game. It gives you, you know, you stay significant in football by doing this. Yeah, I think your influencer helps football. So we're very thankful on the return side that you're doing it.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Just watch what you're doing with your stick. I was ready for a fight. You kind of back off a little bit. You did back off a little bit. Yeah, I did. I had to. I mean, what do you want? The alpha in the room just showed up with a stick.
Starting point is 01:35:30 I had no idea. Big girth. Yeah, it is a big girthy stick there in Coach Sabin's hand. And then he obviously, we sort fought a little bit. We'll see if there's any repercussions. You know, they call them receipts in a wrestling business. We shall see how it goes tomorrow, but it's an honor to get a chance to chat with you. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Ladies and gentlemen, seven-time national champion, coach. Yes, Coach. Thank you, Coach. Yeah, Coach. As he gets that all wrapped up, what's going to happen tomorrow in the game? Michigan win, Oklahoma win? Who's the money on, Tone? Do you know? I do not know who the money's on.
Starting point is 01:36:03 I know that Oklahoma is favored. I know that each team has a lot of question marks. Obviously, both defenses are really, really good. There's no question marks on the defense. both defenses are going to show up. It's all about the quarterbacks, the offense line, because both last year, both of these offenses ranked 100 or worse. I think we all can tell Michigan's offense is much different.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Yeah, well, like for you, like so, I mean, in college, I guess, like when you're preparing for a game like this, is there, I mean, obviously Oklahoma's got a bunch of good athletes on their team, but is there any way you can prepare for a guy? Like, he's going to be probably the best athlete on the field when he's out there. No, no, you can't. There's going to be somebody that plays, hey, that I'm going to be Bryce Underwood.
Starting point is 01:36:42 I'm going to give you a look. But no, you can't get a true look, especially with the size of the guys, too. We played Vince Young, my senior year, and we walk out to the coin toss, and Vince is nine feet tall and runs a 4-3-40 and looks like he's not even struggling to run. Like, he's so smooth, and you cannot,
Starting point is 01:36:57 like, it might take a few series to adjust to that speed and size, I think. But with Underwood, like, the way he, how young he is and how he looked at week one, I know it's just one week. Remember their offense last year? They couldn't throw the ball. They couldn't get the ball down the field,
Starting point is 01:37:11 guy looks very, very comfortable. So I think Michigan, I don't know how the game's going to go, but man, it's going to be a, it should be a great game. I don't know. It's a test for Oklahoma, no question, defensively. Yeah, we'll be for sure. That's, I mean, because who did they have last week? Someone.
Starting point is 01:37:25 New Mexico. No, Michigan had Illinois State, Roll birds, yeah. And they, like, that's quite, Oklahoma couldn't run the ball against roll birds last week. And now you're going to try to do it against Michigan. Yeah, it's going to be whatever offense improves from week one, that'll be the key. Yep. We'll see the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Always a quarterback battle. Pat, I believe you, your back coach, Saban is off, and here we go. Who do we have with you? Pat, it's nice doing the little intro. Yeah, Living Legend, eight-time national champion, the reigning, defending, undisputed SEC coach of the year, the United States of America softball coach of the year, and a friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:38:00 an absolute dog. Oklahoma Sooner softball coach, Coach Patty Gassos. Coach, how are you? I'm good. I wasn't ready for this, so it is what it is. Yeah, I send a Hail Mary this morning to Coach Gassau because I completely forgot that she was friend of the program until I landed here, and all I could think of is how much we all love you. We followed your team.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Thank you. You have become our softball team. We are massive fans of the way you operate, the way you coach, and we know next year, the ninth national championship is coming. How do we feel about the team? Obviously, last year you didn't win a national championship, so. The field one. Los, Oklahoma lost. Motivation into the offseason.
Starting point is 01:38:45 How do we feel about the next season? Good, because we have almost everybody back. We had 14 new athletes last season, so we're loaded, locked, ready to go. Had a great number one freshman class coming in. We're ready. We're ready. Okay, let's talk about the million dollar pitcher for Texas. Correct.
Starting point is 01:39:03 What do you mean? Oh, no. I think that's good. Okay. Women's softball has that type of situation. business-wise happening around it. Obviously, I got a chance to see your stadium last year. We got a chance to follow your story.
Starting point is 01:39:16 It's huge, and it's only growing. I think there's a professional league that is kind of on the up and up. It feels like women's softball is a rocket ship right now. That million-dollar thing to me, to the pitcher, Texas Tech, I forget her name. Nijia Kennedy. Absolute beast, by the way. Watching her through the entire World Series was awesome. She's worth every penny.
Starting point is 01:39:36 They get all the way to the World Series. But the business of women's softball, good, right? it feels like at all eyes and a lot of attention on your sport a lot the pros have done a great job of moving themselves up they've got new leadership and um getting a lot of tv time and obviously nijas changed the sport with the money the problem is we all don't have the same kind of money yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's where we're struggling yeah football's got the same issue let's go to one of those schools that has all the money a j has a question for you coach yeah coach how How different is it now in the SEC than it was in the Big 12 for you?
Starting point is 01:40:10 As a coach, do you see like week in and week out? Is it a tougher road? Oh, one million percent. And the fact that we won the SEC was probably one of the proudest moments I've had as a coach because nobody expected that. And we won the regular season tournament as well. So it was a fun journey, but very hard. It's a gauntlet of tough teams where everybody's in the top 25.
Starting point is 01:40:35 I know you transferred in some pictures last year. I got a chance to bat against them. That became a big storyline because the people at Game Day that edited the video did it in the most lazy fashion that I thought was just took the easiest way to make me look terrible. I thought it was because I was hitting it well. And then as soon as I got to your pitcher, I couldn't even sniff it. So I thought there was a much better video that could have been made. And I thought it was just like an easy way to bury me.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Now, out of context, that gets anonymously leaked by a prick and to make me look bad. started pains that way. But my respect for your sport and your team through the roof. It wasn't, I was upset because I got nothing on the ball. I thought it was just very lazy edit to make me look terrible. But once I got in there, that riser that she threw, I forget that transfer from the Camels. What was the team? Campbell. I forget where she, Campbell. Campbell. Yeah. That's what it was, right? It was transfer from Campbell. Bella Smith. Yes, yes. She was the one pitching to me. And that riser, I was like, whole, I don't even know how, and everybody was like, the only way you don't get a strike
Starting point is 01:41:39 there is if you don't swing at it, but how the hell do you know not to swing at it? Impossible to hit. Like that was the biggest takeaway. Is the sport only getting better? Our pitcher is only getting better? Like that riser, has that always been in the sport? Okay, so let's call it a rise ball. Okay. Because no one calls it a riser in our sport. So I want to help you with legitimacy. And I, but I do agree, you did have some very good swings and they did probably do a lazy job. It was lazy. It took the easy way. Thank you, Coach.
Starting point is 01:42:07 I was there. I witnessed it with my own eyes. It was just lazy. Like, how do we bury this guy as quick as possible is what they did for the video? And I was like, that is just so lazy. But it was a string of events, too, of things that were happening as such with this Game Day people. So that's neither here nor... They made Coach Saving look really, really good.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Everybody else, yeah. Everybody else. Holy shit. Scramble to jet! Get that camera man! Get that camera man! Get that camera man! Cameron!
Starting point is 01:42:35 Camera man! Get that! Camera man! Zoom in, cameraman! You kidding me, Cameron! Fire that camera man now! Shout out to... Ryan's good guy. Shout to our fighter jets, by the way.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Are they real? Because we didn't get to see them, because cameraman sucks. No, you don't suck. They're saying terrible things about you right now. Come on. You need to keep the distractions outside. Don't even listen to what. what they're saying in Indiana.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Now, that would have been... You guys just shamed him. It's okay. Yeah, you're going. You would have done the same thing. He found the horns last week in that stadium. Okay, this guy's a good guy. Yeah, I bet he did.
Starting point is 01:43:18 I bet he did, but last week doesn't matter. If you were to ask Coach Gassow if, you know, a player sprinted to the first base last week, but they didn't this week. Are they still getting reamed out? They better be. Yeah, true. A little accountability.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I actually like that. You could kind of fucked up there. Yeah. So this shot would have been awesome. He had no idea it was coming in. Also, that thing. That was unbelievable. Solo, you don't see that a lot.
Starting point is 01:43:41 No. I don't see a lot of just. That was fat. Yeah, I actually never have seen. I guess I never will camera. Okay. Okay. Let's get back to softball.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Rise ball. Rise ball. That, I assume that wasn't always in softball. Like, is softball still developing? in getting better and better. I think the hitters are getting better, actually. They're learning how to hit the riser. Oh, whoa, don't call it that.
Starting point is 01:44:10 You sound like a newbie. Don't call it the riser. Don't let me move. The rise ball, they can hit the rise ball now. They're better hitters in the game. They're catching up to pitchers. Do you think it's making the game more exciting? Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:23 You want to see home runs. You want to see a lot of runs scored. I don't think the people like, some people like the 1-0 ballgame real tight, close by real fast, but I think everybody likes offense. You started getting mad at your pitchers whenever the batters started getting better. Yeah. What the hell we do? What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:44:44 It's like, well, the pitchers are like, I threw my best pitch, and the batters are just getting better. I think that's good for the sport. Tone has a question for you in a cowboy hat back in Indianapolis. Yeah, coach, you talked about all your returning talent and all, obviously, all the success. I believe I asked you last year about, you know, how you keep the team motivated. I assume with all the returning talent that the motivation is not a hard thing right now
Starting point is 01:45:04 and it's incredible to see them working towards another national championship next season. Yeah, I'm really excited. They're out on the field already. We haven't even started. So they're out every day and somebody's hitting better fungo ground balls than I am out there.
Starting point is 01:45:19 So yeah, they're working hard. They're in the cages. They're doing everything right already and we haven't even opened up our start of our practice. Coach, how are you with the fungo? pretty good yeah yeah one-handed or are we you don't
Starting point is 01:45:36 you don't know you don't hit fungo one-handed like like little league no I don't know I don't play I was there see in little league they have the one-handed fungo and the glove so they can feed it catch it no we don't do that no
Starting point is 01:45:50 do you have any pictures that have the both hands thing where they have that glove where they switch the hands you pitch both hands bang and then all of a sudden finally get to the next one. I've never seen. Maybe some look.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Mackenzie McAfee, class of, she's two, so it would be 16 years from now. Quick math, 41. Class of 2041, she can pitch both hands. Really? Yeah. She's got the rise ball with the left and the right. And you should see her. She's a lefty, but I just want to be a lie for that, so I'll be there.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Gassau, you're never dying. I don't ever want to hear that. Did you have a, did I see you had a brace of some sort on you the last time or was that? Yeah, I broke my wrist, yeah. You're doing what? Punching up? No, I just, I tripped. Somebody didn't get a hit.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Somebody. Some cameraman didn't zoom in. Some cameraman missed a fighter jet. Ty has a question for you, Coach Castle. Coach, have you noticed? I need to hug him. I need to hug. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Not from us. It's not from us. Look out here. He did what he was. supposed to do no no he's that fight no you were behind him before they start you were behind him and then you turn what are our standards you know that is that I'm one of my standards for him trying to wait after the championship coach he's a good cameraman this guy is good he's been there I've seen him in action
Starting point is 01:47:15 I'm trying so don't be making excuse okay so that being said he is taking it on shins pretty good now it would have been a very tough thing for him to catch there is that oh yeah I don't even know if he would have got it I don't even know would have got it, but just the lack of urgency. I think it's what we're talking. Sorry, Ty. Sorry about that. We're talking about Ryan here. Coach, listen, if you have, you know, runners on second and third
Starting point is 01:47:39 and you, you know, your team's in the field and your center field or drops a pop fly and they score two runs, guess what? You're probably reaming her ass out. That's kind of a similar situation to what we just had, but, you know, we'll let bygones be bygones. Just curious, though, going to the
Starting point is 01:47:55 SEC, have you noticed, is like the style of play, maybe a little bit different than it was in the Big 12 and I guess across America like are there different pockets you know for different styles of players does that not really lend itself to softball I think so I think the the intensity is just completely different and to be quite honest everybody is so serious and so everybody has like that err mean like er yeah there's just a lot A lot of game faces. A lot of game faces.
Starting point is 01:48:27 I'm like, everybody all right? What's going on? Why can't we kind of smile at each other or anything? It just doesn't happen. It's just intense. Er. Er, like, are you er and back? Are you erring back?
Starting point is 01:48:40 No, no. Yes, you are. Come on. We feel like you are. No, no. You guys are in bad mood. Bad mood. No, we're always er.
Starting point is 01:48:52 We're always just er. Yeah. I know who's taking the er. over here, too. He earned it, coach. So, no, I am not that. I am more of, I've come to a place in my career where it's like, I'm blessed, this is fun, let's go, we win, great. If we don't, we'll be better. I try to make it easy. Well, you've earned that. All of that. Last question for you hear from Boston Connor. Go ahead, brother. Yeah, coach, by the way, if you think what we're saying to the camera is bad, you should hear what we're saying to this guy, D-bone in the office.
Starting point is 01:49:23 looking at the team now. He does everything. He did everything, Coach. He certainly warranted everything that said he's got a lot of calluses on his shins though and also on his taste buds. We're trying to help him. We're trying to help him grow up a little.
Starting point is 01:49:39 I had to go through the same thing. They had to tell me to stop eating funnions for breakfast, things of that nature. I'm these guys' first boss. I'm a lot of these people's first boss. Yeah. Just something to think about. Not Ryan. Ryan, obviously. Now, I would say if I was, he would have been fired.
Starting point is 01:49:56 No. You heard it. No. No, you would not. I'm not saying. I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it. Sorry, go back to Connors' questions. With being in the SEC and Texas winning the national championship coach, obviously that rivalry is already there between Oklahoma and Texas. But do you sense other rivalries starting to form with the new teams you're playing in the SEC? Like, did you go to Arkansas? And did you just think, like, this place is disgusting? I don't even like it here. Was there any of that, or is it more so based on what you just said, kind of, hey, if we win, awesome, if we lose, let's just get better type of vibe. All right. So let me share with you that my younger son is the hitting coach for Arkansas. So we do hit Arkansas. Boom! That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Woo Pigsui. Yeah, I can't. It's business. Yeah, of course it is. But has there been any? Obviously with Texas, that's a natural one. Um, there's some salty. There's some salty stuff going on. I like that. What are we, what are we reading? Do you guys do the garbage can hitting stuff whenever we're trying to pick up like the MLB does?
Starting point is 01:51:04 These guys just, if a coach is trying to kind of make some kind of pitch call, like they can pick off our pitcher, our dugouts just screaming right on top of whoever it is. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I love the games. I love the games. All right. Well, as we wrap. up here we can't thank you enough for stopping by thank you for adding it into your schedule we love you legitimately oh thank you guys yeah we're the best coach you're the go but i i love our cameraman so hard don't do it you guys too but yeah we love you're tough on him today i just felt tough love you just love to hey we'll see if he's here next week but yeah he's great we love him don't do that is why we're telling him hey can't miss that because we love him you You know, that is a sign of love, you know.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I think you understand that. All right, well, good luck this year. Thanks. You're our softball team, so let's go win this thing. Oh, thank you. Have a good show tomorrow. Thanks for being here, you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, eight-time national champion, Coach Patty.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Thanks, Coach. Thanks, Coach. Yeah, Patty genuinely feels bad for cameraman Ryan. Yeah. She doesn't. She does not. I would assume majority of people watching probably do. Yeah, I mean, it's not personal, right, Conman?
Starting point is 01:52:17 Yeah, well, no, it's not. I'm assuming most of the people watching. that's my thing tone is they were probably like oh do you hear that fighter jet I want to see it because that's what I'm thinking and then because right guy over there was shaking the camera and couldn't get it off some sort of
Starting point is 01:52:34 thingy we couldn't see it it's a bummer but that's okay I'll assume his camera is on a nice big tripod situation and he's going to try to pick it up and run from underneath the county doesn't have to run no what can he do? No no no zoom out no
Starting point is 01:52:48 oh I like that See you, Patty. Good luck, Coach. Good luck, coach. He wouldn't have been able to get it whenever it was overhead, obviously. I don't think he would have been able to do that. This one over here over this. Oh, we could have a saw it.
Starting point is 01:53:01 He just did it. We might have. Did we see it? Hey, too little too late, ass hat. Next time, next time, it's coming back. It's coming back. I know it's coming back. All right.
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Starting point is 01:53:37 You got it. Hell yeah. You got it. That's with a delay. Oh, yeah. There's a couple, you know what I mean? Pretty solid delay, yeah. Yeah, they don't even know. Now, I will say if you go back to last week's episode, I complimented Ryan and buck and d a lot camera people yeah a little too much it sounds like based on their performance today you know i think he was i don't want to speak for rye was he sleeping he was out if he was sleeping we got issues but other than that that would have been a tough thing to get right i don't want to
Starting point is 01:54:08 ryan's living the high life in oklahoma thinking everything's sweet making shits just made in the shade drinking lemonade no i think he i think he was actually worried about uh coach gassa appeared as if he was paying attention to something with Coach Gassow. And then as I was screaming, you see him look at me. And then hey, hey, hey, hey. And then bang, he's got loose in that thing. And then he starts to go, what? And then gone. And that's what happens to fighter jets. Yeah. And Ryan learned that lesson. Hey, if that thing sounds like a fighter jet, it's coming pretty quick. You know, that thing's going to be here and it's going to be gone. We learn a lesson today. And we have to point it out or we'll never get better. And
Starting point is 01:54:47 that's just part of the program. That's way it is. But Ryan's been great for us two weeks into this. Let's remember that. We can't just toss all that out. He's been okay for us. Great for us. You weren't there when he found those trumpets around the horseshoe. You didn't. You weren't there for that. Okay. Remember how ass that sounded? Do you remember that? Yeah, and that was cool.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Trumpets around the horseshoe that was pissing us off. Cool ass fly over with one solo jet. Come on. Yeah, I know. It would have been really cool going over that scoreboard, too. It would have been pretty historic. How about it? How low was he? Was he pretty
Starting point is 01:55:21 low. Pretty low, yeah. Buzz the tower, I heard. Yeah. The, um, what's the cloud? What's that called? The ceiling? Serious.
Starting point is 01:55:28 The stratosphere? Cumul and Nimbus? I don't know. There's something for what the fucking cloud thing is called. It's, uh, I don't know what it's called, but they're flying under the clouds. Oh, man, dude, that's like my dream. That's like the only fucking thing I've never seen. I want to see it.
Starting point is 01:55:45 That's a shit. Yeah, now that I think about it, Connor, we should be some. Coach Gasso should have been saying sorry to you. Yeah. This actually really, you know how I was flying really high? This is like the first time I haven't been since football start. Thanks, Ryan. Are you all right?
Starting point is 01:56:00 Are there bells for you? Are those bells for your funeral? Yeah. Connor, are you all right? I know. With the bells and I'm going to be completely honest. What? He's done.
Starting point is 01:56:15 Ryan, I hope you're happy. Connor just quit, I think. He's done. Someone might need to check on him. Hope that wall. Is he crying? Ryan, he's... I hope you understand what's happening back in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Oh, he did the arm... Gasso is feeling bad for you. Nobody's really feeling about... He's gone. Oh, he almost went right to the brick wall. Could have been worse. Insult the injury is what they call that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:36 That was him yelling right there? Yeah, it was. He's gonna go dump all over himself. Hope that water... Hope you're happy, Ryan. ...got over as a cap on it. Buh. Ryan said he's so sorry.
Starting point is 01:56:46 I just want to let you know that. It doesn't? Ryan said he said... Was that a bunch of Zinn spit all over the... spit all over the oh i hope not oh no it's good didn't spill didn't spill he got lucky he knocked the mic oh he got lucky he has been talking about since i've known him what is that eight years about wanting to see in oklahoma one fighter jet fly right under the cloud cover too he said he said talk to his fodder's fodder about it when he was a child yeah and just
Starting point is 01:57:15 never thought it would come and then here it was you think you think good chance to see it. I saw it though for them. I guess I should just design, like can you recreate it? You should go to the police station and see if they can sketch it. Oh, there you had wing, had two wings. Okay. I'll never forget it. Had two wings, had a nose pretty sharp.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Okay. Sounded like you had a couple jet engines on it. It sounded out there. That's something bitch did a hard bank too at the end as it. Pulling nine G's. It's like you want to do about a hundred yard dash here. Down a few and then he on the bank oh my god the bank shot you think they were on missiles or had they
Starting point is 01:57:56 switched to guns I think that was on a buckshot okay I think it was on shot okay okay on the other side let's make our picks hell yeah Ryan it's okay yep guy might have quit the show but will you guys talk to him get him back yeah yeah we'll do our someone will Foxie will probably or something like it dumpy you see he's gone he walked out he couldn't take it anymore he'll be back are you sure to pick friday i don't know but it was fighter jet in oklahoma he dreamed about since he was a kid friday too week one he'll be back we'll see we'll see won't we yes we'll see yes we'll see it's bonner done with the show i hope not yeah it'd be tough it would make sense that with how cool that was that i saw once in a
Starting point is 01:58:45 lifetime thing he was so close we were very close to seeing it The thing about it, though, Ryan didn't see it either. So Ryan's in the same position that Connors kind of did. It was his dream to see that, too. Everybody's kind of bummed out. Let's take a break and get back. Reset, yeah. Here it's lifted on the other side.
Starting point is 01:59:04 As if 10 fighter jets are going to be flying over right over top. Let's act like that's about to happen because we're making our first picks Friday. Okay, let's go. Let's see the field, AJ. We're seeing it. We are. Let's get it right, AJ. Let's get them all right.
Starting point is 01:59:22 I think we're going undefeated. We're going undefeated. Why not us having a perfect slate? We started already good. Start it already. Called the whole fucking game. That over should have hit. It did.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Well, Tony was going. Oh, I forgot. Yeah, I forgot my bad. I forgot my tone. Yeah. Jeez. On X. I wasn't awake for it not to hit.
Starting point is 01:59:42 So in my mind, it hit. I was in week one form. I am not ready to stay up that late for it. Come on. I didn't see this in the main. real time. Disgusting. I stayed up to not
Starting point is 01:59:53 watch it hit. All right. We'll be back on the other side. Thanks for us. Make our picks. Let's be positive. It's not miss on once in a lifetime things on your side. Okay. Can somebody call that jet? Yeah, can he circle back?
Starting point is 02:00:08 Take the tractor another round. It's cheap. Save him probably could. Yeah. It is cheap, isn't it, AJ. I've heard, I've heard this price. Sure. It's super cheap for him to circle back around. It's part of, it's part of, their training, okay? They're going to do those flights anyways. They're going to do those flights anyways. I agree.
Starting point is 02:00:24 I agree. I'm on that team. Flyers are awesome. Know that I am always on that team. Yep. Matter what happens. I am on that team. And also, I'm going to watch Redson. I'm sorry. I think everybody is.
Starting point is 02:00:37 You shouldn't say that on the internet, though, because... I got a lot of people that don't follow me telling me I'm the worst person on Earth. It's like, I mean, sure, but you don't know that. You don't follow me close enough. The commercial thing. That's not the reason I think I'm the biggest asshole on earth at all. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Be your friend. Tell the other friends about change your life. We're making our picks on the other side. Somebody get Connor back. Yep, you got it. And somebody tell Connor Ryan's bummed too. He didn't get to see it. You know?
Starting point is 02:01:06 Sounds like he's not going to listen right now. All right. Take your time. Go to the bathroom. We're picking a perfect slate on the other side. Hell yeah. the day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror
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Starting point is 02:02:27 we're great gumpy's been absolutely crushing it over here gumpy saw a solo fighter jet fly over the stadium here in norman oklahoma ain't that right that was beautiful what a sight to behold i will say throughout the entire break ryan was working on getting camera to find one of those and he also built a paper plane that he was going to send across Go ahead, do it.
Starting point is 02:02:49 It was great. Yeah, you can put it in front of camera. I bet it's going to be funny. Yeah. That's pretty good. It's a B2B or a stealth bomb. Yeah. That's kind of what...
Starting point is 02:02:57 I love it, Ryan. I'm gonna say... No, that's not what's put it. That wasn't a highly classified vehicle flying over in the stadium, was it? I sent the video in some guy's IG story. He added me in it. Foxy, can you pull that out of the group text? Maybe Bruce is going to have to do it.
Starting point is 02:03:10 Yeah, it's so freaking sick. I can't even begin to explain. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, but just take it back. Act like it didn't happen already. All right, just have this guy's video be the one of it actually happening, Conman. Great to have you back, by the way, Connor, there next to Ty Schmidt at the Toxic Table. One half of the Hammer, Don.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Cowboys, AP Tone is here. Don like doing the second half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys Bubba Gumpino here. We are in Norman, Oklahoma for Oklahoma, Michigan tomorrow, and we're also very excited to make these picks. A.J., we are gassed up to go ahead and pick against the spread. We're already batting a thousand. Last night, we knew the Cowboys are going to cover.
Starting point is 02:03:50 We knew the Eagles were going to win. We knew Jalen was going to score. We knew Sequin was going to score. These are just things that are gimmies now at this point whenever these teams are playing. Jalen Hurts touchdown, it was only minus 160, which is obviously still pretty big. Still pretty heavy favorite.
Starting point is 02:04:06 But that feels like a guarantee every single time they are playing. And with the way he's playing, with the way they're covering them, I don't know how he doesn't continue to get into the end zone. and if they're going to continue to run the ball more than they pass it, maybe they are in the middle of a dynastic run that we're going to respect the hell out of. But last night felt easy. Let's see if the entire spread is the same way. Let's get started here.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Obviously, Sunday is going to be magical. Can we put the – thank you. Kansas City, first Los Angeles tonight, Friday night, available on YouTube. That's crazy. So sweet. Right. Strictly YouTube, correct.
Starting point is 02:04:42 That's going to do big numbers. Can't wait to see what it is. I'm not positive, but I think you can watch on YouTube TV as well, which will make that number a little bit smaller. Okay. Oh, so you're saying whenever it's broadcasted on other platforms, one of them might have a little bit less on it than because not everybody can see it in one place. Yeah, I'd say so.
Starting point is 02:05:02 I would say I'm already going to go YouTube TV. I just think it's going to be easier for me. Yeah, that's the other thing. Go ahead. Like people, not everybody goes on the same thing to watch something. so if you put them on multiple places sometimes the people who are on those different places only watch them on that place instead of going to another place to watch it
Starting point is 02:05:20 so you're saying like if you are on TV then also on like Disney plus ESPN plus TikTok Live and YouTube there's a chance that maybe some of them eat into each other but if you look at the entire you're able to reach everybody Don't you think that's probably...
Starting point is 02:05:43 Now we're doing math. Yeah, you got to... Now we're adding things up. But one of them might be a little bit, or maybe a couple of them might be lower than what they would be. Fucking idiots.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Everywhere. Now, tonight, Kansas City, Los Angeles Chargers. I'm excited to see what this year looks like for the Chiefs. Dumpy, what are your thoughts on this game? Chiefs, easy.
Starting point is 02:06:09 Okay. All right. Thought maybe we're going to get an explanation. No explanation needed, says Gumpy. Anybody injured, anything we should think about? Rishu Reyes, out for the cheese for the first six weeks, right? Yeah. So anything else?
Starting point is 02:06:21 Roshan Slater, starting left tackle for the Chargers who they paid this offseason. He got hurt. He's done for the year, actually, so he won't be playing for the Chargers. I can't think of any other. Mackay-Backin. Backson. Questionable, though. He's not officially out yet, I don't think.
Starting point is 02:06:39 But aside from that, I, I don't think. I think the only guy that's going to be the biggest miss is the left tackle, Roshan. I do have something. The three and a half is correct. If you're going by ESPN bet numbers, three and a half is ESPN bet's the only place that has three and a half everywhere else has three. So if you're taking the chiefs, go somewhere else.
Starting point is 02:06:57 What are we doing? We're taking the best number this year. I like that we're doing that. I like that we're doing that. AJ, who do you like? I like the chiefs at three. Yes, get at three. Give me the Chiefs.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Me too, yes. Yeah, we're all in it. You're at three, too, as well. AJ, maybe think about three and a half. Oh, you don't care. Gumpy says three and a half good, four and a half good, five and a half good. How many do you think? I understand that.
Starting point is 02:07:22 I would take three, though. Give me three. I'll take three as well. All right, let's go Raiders, Patriots. Mike Rabel era begins in New England as the Pete Carroll era begins in Las Vegas. We're up in Foxborough. Obviously, there's a Tommy Brady statue up there. They're also building a Bill Belichick statue up there.
Starting point is 02:07:40 That's good news, especially after what happened on Monday night. We thought maybe statute time was over for Bill Belichick, but he's getting one up there in New England, as he should, which should be amazing. Conman, two and a half. Do you feel good about that with Gino Smith and the boys rolling into town? Yeah, I feel like it should be a pick-em, just because there's so many questions on both teams.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Christian Gonzalez is out. He hasn't really been a part of anything since the first week of padded practice with a hamstring. Yeah, Will Campbell questionable feels like he should play. then for the Raiders, aside from Wilkins being done with the team, I think there was one other situation, or Jacobi Myers, yeah, or Jacobi Myers, yeah, but he, Jacoby Myers requested trade was told no, he is playing for the Raiders. But yeah, two and a half. I mean, it's one of those numbers. Let's find out. It is two and a half across the board. Okay. Amari Cooper retired
Starting point is 02:08:29 from the Raiders. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Marry Cooper just retired two days ago, but I don't think anybody was expecting him to be with the Raiders, whatever the case. We hope Amari Cooper is happy. I would take the Raiders. plus two and a half in Foxborough. Who knows if New England steals a one-point win, maybe, a two-point win, and I still get a dub in this particular game. But Pete Carroll, Gino Smith, Tom Brady's involved over there. Tom Brady wanted to be quarterback for the Raiders.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Tom Brady wanted to be quarterback for the Raiders. And John Gruden said, I'm sticking with car, man. And everybody said that John Gruden hated their car. He picked them over Tom Brady allegedly. And when Tom Brady said, you're sticking with that motherfucker? That's who he was talking about. Derek Carr in Las Vegas. Now he's an owner, very hands-on.
Starting point is 02:09:14 They got Chip Kelly running the offense. Max Crosby's obviously back for another year. I like Las Vegas plus two and a half against New England. AJ, who do you like? You know what? I don't want to go against you this quick, but I'm going to have to take the Patriots minus two and a half. I think the Patriots win by a field goal.
Starting point is 02:09:29 I think Rable's defense finds a way to get a couple turnover, something like that to flip the game. But yeah, give me the Patriots minus two and a half. Gumpy, who do you like there? I'll take the Raiders plus two and a half, very tight, very tight. tight game. I like that. Steelers, Jets, Steelers only favored by two and a half. They go all in, all in, spending more money in places and on people that they would have never done in the past. Over under 37 and a half, all points being scored. Artie Smith, Aaron Rogers, D.K. Metcalf,
Starting point is 02:09:58 John O. Smith, Pat Friarmooth, Jalen Warren, fresh off a new deal in an offensive line that a lot of people are wondering, are they going to be able to be great or not? I'm excited to see this Pittsburgh Steelers team against this New York Jet Squad. I'm going to take the Steelers minus two and a half. Like I assume everybody that has a microphone in front of them right now was doing. Absolutely. I would imagine, you're going to take them a two and a half. Sorry if I jumped in line.
Starting point is 02:10:21 I'm taking the Steelers. This is also a weird, like, personal game, too, with Aaron Glenn and the stuff he's been asked about, about the Steelers and Aaron Rogers, how he's moving on. Like this, there's like, I think both sides from Aaron's side and from the Jets and Glenn. I'm curious to see what pregame looks like. And Justin Fields. You know, just with the Steelers.
Starting point is 02:10:40 This is a good week one game. The fact that the Steelers are favored by two and a half, I would assume it would be more. What are the sports books saying here, Tone? Yeah, it's two and a half at most or three at some. A lot of people, a lot of the public is on the Steelers. I mean, that's just kind of how it is because they've been talked about more all season. 37 and a half, I think it's going to be a poopy game.
Starting point is 02:11:00 Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Real cage you affair. I don't want to be dramatic. If the Steelers win, they're going to go to Super Bowl. if they lose the season's over. He's right. I know this is week one. If the Steelers lose this game, it's over.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Yeah, you need a door dash some new drawers because all Steelers fans will be shitting their pants about how much money they spent and what the future looks like. Conman, you're about to say something it sounds like about the Steelers? When Rapchee was here, this is actually about the Jets. When Raptche was here, he was kind of
Starting point is 02:11:28 talking about how like, hey, what you see from the Jets in the preseason, once the season starts like it's completely different. I'm assuming every team is like that, but If, you know, the Jets come out and they just read option up and down the field with Justin Fields and Brees Hall and Braylin Allen and throw it 10 times to Garrett Wilson and it's just a gritty slug fest, like a 37 and a half spread would make you think. It's just, it's a weird line with a weird over under, man.
Starting point is 02:11:55 I don't know. That is a very weird line. But I see T.J looking like the Condor with the option, you know. He's going to tackle both of them. I think we're going to see a play where T. tackle's both guys, quarterback and running back, although Justin Fields is incredibly difficult to tackle. Whenever he's running, he is a problem. Let's assume Mike Tomlin will have a plan for that on the defensive side of the ball and Arty Smith and the boys. Hopefully they're
Starting point is 02:12:17 ready to go. Pittsburgh Steelers, minus two and a half across the board. Good luck to all parties over there. Miami Dolphins traveling to the lot of us. Taking on the Indianapolis Colts is one and a half point favorites at home. We'll be honoring Jim Mersey. And by we, I mean the Colts will be doing that. For the boss, his shirt, I believe, will be on every seat in the stadium, I think, and he's going into the Ring of Honor. There's going to be a lot of legends around. It's going to be great to catch up with everybody,
Starting point is 02:12:42 and I think it's going to be an electrifying atmosphere in Lucaso Stadium. Now, when you think about the dolphins, other than Peter Schroger, there isn't a lot of people saying positive things, including Dolphins fans. Darren is surprisingly out. I thought for sure he'd be ready for week one.
Starting point is 02:12:57 There's another one. Hasn't practice, you know, thought he'd be out there. Couldn't get this guy to say something, you know. 2-4-0, week one, though. Never lost week one. Throw us for over 300 yards. Okay, I'm happy you started looking for positive. Colts haven't won on week once since 2019.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Okay. Any dimes on that team? No. Exactly. Good point. Definitely not. Thank you, AJ. Good point.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Our secondary, not good. Pass rush, very good. Give me the Colts minus one to half. Actually, AJ, I can get you Colts minus a half. I'll take that one. Yeah, we'll take that. That's what we'll do. That sounds good.
Starting point is 02:13:31 We'll have that. We'll have that. Gumpy, obviously. all ever a dolphin is plus a half no just money line all right straight up yeah come all right that's what we'll do good luck yeah we already got that minus a half good luck get straight up um i'm happy everybody's on a coach this is a good game 7% optimism yeah right fucking look around yeah a lot of people taking public is all the public's all in the dolphins so that's what hey right where you want to be bingo yeah how's the public been doing
Starting point is 02:14:00 lately pat as season just started how how how Oh, why bad? The dolphins have more negative shit than us, don't that? So much unknown. If two is healthy, though, the offense is good. I mean, you saw the, we put up the hopometer pull. The Colts were dead last. Well, how many people were polled for that?
Starting point is 02:14:20 Yeah, exactly. I thought that was a group of AR, believe ours. 71% is on the fence. Jeez. It's a lot. We don't need to see this. I'm sticking with the Colts. It's much higher there, 19.
Starting point is 02:14:33 Colts minus one and a half. i didn't know that was going to be a fucking abnormal pick i think i thought the dolphins would be a guaranteed everybody would be arrived with the horse shirt for the boss yeah he's fucking people don't know shit that's why it's gonna be a tough bar yeah it's gonna be a tough bar always is definitely don't want to be playing the the colts when you're Look at that guy. You can't lose on that day. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:15:01 No change to lose him. Nah. He's going into the goddamn ring of honor. Danny Dynes knows that. He knows that. Danny Dimes knows. Danny Dimes running out with one of Jim's favorite guitars. Oh, sweet strapped to him.
Starting point is 02:15:12 He's strapped. He's going to have a little M. There was a GZ song playing this morning on the plane. Get Right by Gizi. And I turned right into Dimes. Uh-huh, tell them get Dimes. You can actually carry that through the entire song, just want to let that know.
Starting point is 02:15:29 It might be everything I think about dimes going in the game. What I've been supportive of the Colts, if AR was a quarterback this week one, of course? Yeah. Of course. I would have been a Belivar heart, okay? And I assume at some point he's going to have to play. So I'll continue to be a Belivar. Even though everything coming out of the building is that they give them every opportunity.
Starting point is 02:15:50 I mean, Danny Dimes, we all said. If Danny Dimes wins this quarterback competition, this is, now we. didn't, we weren't in the say of who won the quarterback competition. We watched zero reps other than the highlights that were posted online. We watched the preseason games. Danny Dimes is obviously going to be able to do some shit. He's fast. He runs a lot.
Starting point is 02:16:08 Nobody's talking about how athletic he is. At the Giants, nobody talked about how athletic he was. In Shane Steichen's offense now, nobody's talking about how athletic he is. I think that's going to be a weapon. What's his over under rush yards? Somebody can pull that up for 90s. For Danny Dimes. Yeah, yeah. Not high
Starting point is 02:16:24 enough. That's what I'm saying. Like nobody's really thinking about Danny Dimes running wild out there. There's a chance Danny Dimes runs wild. Danny Dimes. Exactly. Danny Dimes, you think about him running and tripping over a yard line. What was like the 20 yard line or something? Yeah, it's the Eagles.
Starting point is 02:16:39 Yes. And that's all anybody thinks is like, oh, this guy, yeah, right. You hammer the Danny Dimes over rush yards normally going to hit. Longest rush over Danny Dimes is going to hit much more athletic than anybody gives him credit for. And I think Shane Snike and it loves that. I think we're going to see that. 21 and a half is his total. block over all day.
Starting point is 02:16:58 That's one run. 21 miles per hour, they said. That's right. Johnson Taylor said, you know, this white guy, pretty quick. And it's for the bust? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. And it's his first start.
Starting point is 02:17:10 There's been a lot of shit being said about Danny Dimes. A lot. A lot of that pessimism is because Danny Dimes on the head coaching job. It's like, or the starting quarterback job. It's like, all right, Danny Dimes. Let's see if you got it. I'm excited to watch. And if not, you know, if the Colts stink this year, full rebuild coming.
Starting point is 02:17:26 That's exciting. And if the Colts are good this year, we celebrate every week. I'm very pumped going into the year. I'm like, here we go. Let's do this. I think they have a team and have paid enough people to be good. I think we have a chance to be good. Not a lot of people do.
Starting point is 02:17:40 I think we do, especially with the Loud House. On the defensive side, we stacked up in the back end. We got like actual vets paid actual money. You know, we bring in, we got a team. The Colts got a team. Don't let that athletic article kind of fool you. We got a squat. now are they worth the fuck we find out against the miami dolphins on sunday at the loudhouse
Starting point is 02:18:01 one o'clock honor and jim mersey bangles browns a fc north battle over under 48 and a half i am uh give me the bronze give me the browns whoa uh miles garrett's playing miles garrets playing miles garrets playing football for them yep right yes and you could get the browns at the five and a half and if you want the bangles you could get them at minus five okay so i will take uh browns at five and a half i still think the bangles win but i think is a cagey affair. Who do you like? Zach Taylor, historically bad to start the season. I know they played in the
Starting point is 02:18:32 preseason, but is Trey ready? Is Shamar Stewart ready? I like the Brownies to cover here. He said to Bengals Zach Taylor, one in 11, I think, or something like that. I forget what the number. First three or four weeks in the season, I believe. Makes sense, right? Just because the whole borough thing in the Jamar Chase
Starting point is 02:18:48 thing, like they've never had a full team at the start of the season. Yeah, Joe was healthy last year. I don't want to, you know. Zach is no, no Jamar. Zach Taylor has career record of 1 and 11 in the first two weeks of the NFL season. We knew we had it somewhere. There it is. Yeah, we found it.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Yeah, that made us feel good whenever we, you know, anything that adds to what we're thinking, we like to see. We're kind of a part of the problem. We're not looking for anything else. We're not looking. Jamar Chase was out last year. We don't want to hear that. You know, the Cincinnati Bengals feel like they can win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:19:17 Joe, bro, we don't want to hear that. We just want to hear, is Miles Garrett playing football on that team? Yeah. Is Joe Flacko over there? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I like the Browns to keep it within. Jerry,
Starting point is 02:19:26 Yeah. There it is. Favorite player, Jared Judy. Jared Judy. Ford averaging five yards per carry. I mean, Brown's got some weapons over there now. Go ahead, AJ? Yeah, with all that being said, I'll take the Bengals at minus five.
Starting point is 02:19:39 I think Joey B. and the boys put up enough point. I think Troy Henderson wrecked shop. I think Trey Henderson comes in. He's got fresh legs. Here we go, bangles. Yeah, Pat. Just so you know, Pat, you were saying you were taking the Cleveland Browns over the Cincinnati Bengals. It's a cover.
Starting point is 02:19:56 Not to win. Yeah, not to win. Yeah, yeah. Keep it close. Miles Garrett, opening weekend. Flacco still got it. Yeah, there's been no off-season stuff for Cleveland, too. They've just been fucking bald.
Starting point is 02:20:08 I'm on the Browns as well. I like that. I'm with both of the hammer. Cowboys, that feels like a good horse to ride, you know, out of the barn. Giants taking on the Washington commanders. Now, the Giants are going to make a break here. I think everybody over there knows it. It's Russell Wilson's team to start the season.
Starting point is 02:20:27 When will Jackson Dark get in? Will Jackson Dark get in? On the other side, they pay Terry McLaurant. They bring everybody back. Jalen Daniels with another year. Washington commanders were the team of destiny last year, we all thought, for a franchise that has been down into dumps and actually spilling dumps on people that were at the stadium for a long, long, long time.
Starting point is 02:20:47 AJ, who do you like in this one, brother? This is a tough one, I think. I love the Washington Commanders and what they're doing, but give me the New York football. giants at plus five and plus six you get them at six definitely give them give me them a plus six i don't know there's something i'm sure it's some it might be some preseason garbage but there feels to be a nice positive buzz around the new york giants i think dable i like what they're doing man i think they keep this thing close that's literally
Starting point is 02:21:11 all we can go off of his violence yeah we're much better than before right and what abdul carter that's what i'm going off of i'm picturing him in camp just flying off the head oh yeah Texer Lawrence in the middle, too. Oh, sexy, Dexie. Should have a better back in, too. All right, I'll take the Giants plus five and a half as well, but once again, this does not mean they're winning. You get six, Pat.
Starting point is 02:21:32 Yeah, six. Yeah, I like that. They've covered six to seven in Washington as well, the Giants. That's right. Always tight. Yeah, that's good time. That boy, Bruce. Thank you, Bruce.
Starting point is 02:21:43 Good luck, Bruce. Keep it tight. Keep it tight, Bruce. Carolina Panthers taking on the Jacksonville Jaguals. Obviously, it's a brand new era for the Jacksonville Jaguars. we're in the Travis Hunter era down there. O. Stoner says, we're going to explore everything that football can be with Travis Hunter. He'll be majoring in wide receiver, minoring in DB.
Starting point is 02:22:01 How many reps will we get on the defensive side? How many balls will we get on the offensive side? We'll certainly watch. Trevor Lawrence, this feels like a year where he could go, or we could all decide that it didn't go well, even though he's had 45 different head coaches already in the same amount of offensive coordinators. Carolina Panthers look great at the end of the year. Bryce Young looked like a real deal.
Starting point is 02:22:18 Now, do they have a number one bona fide? not 100% sure. How's their offensive line? Not 100% sure. How's the defense? We assume they'll be okay. It's tough to really judge the Carolina Panthers team because I don't know shit about him. I know Sheena Quick covers them. I know Bryce Young had a big, big second half of the year last year. I know Andy Dalton's back for his 15th year as a backup quarterback there. Tepper's a better owner now than he was. I think we're all agree. And the good vibes are down there at the end of the season. Does that continue into this year? We shall see. If there was one game that I wouldn't bet. It would be this one.
Starting point is 02:22:51 Yeah, a lot of questions marks. No clue, but I do. Give me the Panthers plus the points. Okay, AJ, your thoughts? Are you going with Gumpy? Just taking points in this one that we don't really know anything about? No, I think the Jags find a way to win this game, and I think they win by more. Do I get it three? No, this one's three and a half. Okay, give me the Jags still at minus three and a half.
Starting point is 02:23:08 I don't have faith. I think Trevor Lawrence, he knows this is the year. He's going to figure it out. I'll ride with Stoner and Liam Cohen, Donner and Duv. Oh, give me the Jags minus three and a half as well. Tampa Bay Buccaneers taking on the Atlanta Falcons here in an NFC South Battle. Obviously, we have BA on the program just a few days ago. He loves the people down in Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 02:23:27 He talked about the GM and ownership as if they don't get enough credit. Baker Mayfield, perfect fit for this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team. It sounds like by all parties talking about him being there for like 10 years. Like, hey, he's going to be here for the long haul. Obviously, Mike Evans still on the squad. Defense is still going to be able to fly around. Their favorite taking on Rahim Morris and the Atlanta Falcons and Michael Pennix Jr. as this is his first campaign as the bona fide starter for an NFL program.
Starting point is 02:23:52 Kirk Cousins will be backing him up, taking up a lot of salary cap, but obviously good vibes. AJ, how do you feel about this particular NFC. South battle down there in Atlanta? So I do like him down there in Atlanta. I like what he's doing. I think they're going to be much better, but I'm taking Tampa Bay right here. Tampa Bay minus one and a half on the road. I have too much belief in Baker and what he does and his moxie and his competitive spirit. Honestly, I am biased towards Baker.
Starting point is 02:24:18 I love him as a player. I got the Bucks making it to the Super Bowl. Give me the Buccaneers minus one and a half. That's a big prediction. Where were you at on Peter Stregor's Super? I love this box team, man. They're loaded with weapons. All right, I'll take the bucks as well.
Starting point is 02:24:31 I mean, Jesus, going to the Super Bowl. I love that. Congrats to Tampa. Great City. Great City. It's not that tough of a division. MC SAF. I mean, these are the two teams.
Starting point is 02:24:41 Nah, Kellyn Moore's down there doing it. He's got the whistle. Yeah. They might win. game. Whoa. Arizona Cardinals. This one.
Starting point is 02:24:51 New Orleans. Cardinals, obviously, Kyler just yesterday said that he and Marvin Harrison, Jr. are at a very different place now than they were whenever he first got drafted. I believe Kyler Murray said it's night and day from where we were to where we are. That's great news, obviously, for the Arizona Cardinals. Remember, the Cardinals team played a lot of close games last year. The head coach of that team, Coach.
Starting point is 02:25:13 Gannon. Gannon, Gannon, Gannon, Gannon, Gennon, Gennon, Gennon, Gennon, Gennon. It was hard to take him serious there for a while, but last year it feels like he earned our respect. I think we all ended up talking about the Arizona Cardinals in a very positive fashion. At the beginning of the year, Cardinals do well, and that kind of the thing?
Starting point is 02:25:32 And then can they sustain, we shall see? And then the Saints, there's nothing positive that has come out of there. Like, they got Cam still on that defense. They got, I think, Mario, Mario still on that defense down there. And he's a host. They've got some real dogs down there still on the defensive side, but nobody's even giving them anything. Only getting six and a half is a weird thing to say,
Starting point is 02:25:55 but it's real with this New Orleans Saints team and the vibes coming out of their camp. Anything we need to know about this toxic table, please? I don't know, really. I mean, I think all eyes are on Chris Olive. Hopefully he doesn't get any hospital balls this year. People are very worried about his concussion situation in the past couple of years.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Rattler's going. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think it's going to be a quick hook, but we're probably going to play the if Rattler looks like shit the first several weeks. Like, hey, when are we going to see Tyler Shuck? I don't know it will happen week one, but you never know. Okay, so on that note, give me the Cardinals, minus six and a half in a very, very, very difficult environment. I mean, down in New Orleans is always going to be tough. AJ, who do you like?
Starting point is 02:26:35 After all, the back and forth, honestly, give me the Saints. Tony, you said I could get him at plus seven, right? No, I didn't know. Okay, I'll take him at plus six and a half then, I guess. But I want the Saints, honestly. Let's see what Spencer Rattler can do. Your guy, Pete Warner. Yeah, Pete Warner.
Starting point is 02:26:46 he's going to be hustling sideline to sideline. We know that. I think they find a way to keep this thing close. I think Stutzman's playing a lot back for them boys too. Oh, man. Here we go. We are downhill, boys. We are going downhill.
Starting point is 02:26:59 To be honest, it's just strictly because I hope that it's Kyler's year. Like, I hope Kyler becomes a guy. Like, you know, not that he is talked about. Yeah, he is very fun to watch. And it's like Marvin Harrison, Jr., we assume going to be a very good wide receiver in the league. So hopefully this is the year where they go. That's the only reason why I'm picking them here is because of hope.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Niners, Seahawks. It's Christian McCafferick. Can we FaceTime Shafti, please? Can we FaceTime Shafti? Just get a little bit. Burst is scary. Did it come in on? Did it just happen?
Starting point is 02:27:30 It feels like it. I'm hoping it's like one of those throwback jokes, you know? Oh, I don't think they, I don't think it works. Scott April. Now, I don't know how he knows this, but I saw a tweet from Dr. David Chowell today that said this is not related to the Achilles tendonitis, and it's just a calf thing. So hopefully, you know, hopefully he's right.
Starting point is 02:27:50 Well, he was doing B skips. Did you see those when he was warming up doing B skips? Yeah, we have them, I think. There's A skips, you see, because your eggs going up like, yes, creating an A. And then the B skip is when you whip it around, you know, whenever you whip that thing right, it's a track exercise. Yeah, you got it.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Ain't that right, AJ. You're nail out those cowboy boots. Gump probably can't do that or not. A, skip, you know, classic little hesitations. Just to look sweet, yeah. B, skip, you go home, and then you're pulling that shit. Yeah, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, he's pulling that shit.
Starting point is 02:28:24 That's like a track warm up for the hammies, I do believe, if I'm not mistaken. Him being able to do that, I think, is a good thing, but it even being reported is crazy, especially post- fantasy football drafts like they did exactly last year. It's just, this all feels like joining us now, senior NFL insider at ESPN, ladies and gentlemen. We're in Tornado Alley. I'll hold it, plenty more likes. So, boys.
Starting point is 02:28:55 Michigan, man, senior NFL insider for ESPN, ladies and gentlemen, Adam, Shepard. Yeah. Gentlemen, what's going on? Jacksonville, Jaguars, carp there. We both picked them against the spread here this week, so hopefully Liam Cohen is able to figure it out. this Christian McCaffrey thing. Once again, this is all post- Fantasy football drafts. His name pops up on an injury report. Caff, obviously very scary for, I assume, a lot of Niners fans and also us because of what happened last year with his lower leg. How do we feel about this? And what
Starting point is 02:29:28 happened here? Well, I'll tell you what I know. Obviously, there's a lot that's unknown right now, and there'll be more that's known in the next 24 to 48 hours. But here's where we are right now. was a full participant in practice Wednesday. He was limited on Thursday, added to the injury report with what the team called a calf injury. Now, ordinarily, you hear calf, limited practice with most players, you find it interesting. With Christian McCaffrey, it almost becomes earth-shattering because of everything that he went through last year and everybody remembers the experience where he's made inactive.
Starting point is 02:30:09 So as somebody was saying to me, like I said to somebody, somebody that rosters him on their team, like, are you nervous? I'm like, anytime I hear Christian McCaffrey and CAF, yes, I think there's reason to be alarmed. On the other hand, I was told this morning that he doesn't sound, Christian McCaffrey doesn't sound overly concerned. I was told that he felt like it was some cramps yesterday in the CAF. There's still no clarification about what's real and what's not. I'm not sure what's real. Like, I've heard, with all the respect, I've heard Christian McCaffrey downplay things before, and then they weren't what we thought.
Starting point is 02:30:49 So I think with this situation right now, it's wait and see. I think there is concern just because it's his calf. If it was Christian McCaffrey shoulder, I've got to be honest to it. Christian McCaffrey, anything, I'm a little alarmed with what he's been through in recent years. But if it was another body part, I might be a little less alarm. But I see CAF, and you can't help but wonder what's going on. Now, Thursday is supposed to be the day that he talks to the media at his locker. The media came in after practice.
Starting point is 02:31:25 Christian McCaffrey was not at his locker and did not conduct his normal press Thursdays. No, no. No show. We're going this way. We're going this way. So, again, I'm just giving you what I know, which is hardly everything. I think it's a big question and we're going to see
Starting point is 02:31:42 what is real with that calf. Now I'll say this if it's nothing like he initially thinks and like I was told that'd be great and he plays and he's going to be a huge factor but if for some reason he's questionable Sunday
Starting point is 02:31:58 he doesn't go it's the calf I think that I think we've got an issue like it's something it's something already that's how I feel that's how I feel Even if it's minor now.
Starting point is 02:32:11 Yeah. DoorDash, a lot of panic to me whenever he showed up on that IRA, especially after what happened last year. Chefty, we appreciate you taking time and give us the information. How do you feel about tomorrow? I think that Sharon Moore played guard at Oklahoma. And I think Sharon Moore is going to want to run the football the way he did when he played guard at Oklahoma.
Starting point is 02:32:34 I know we got a lot of talk about the quarterbacks, but I think Michigan's going to be Michigan. And it's going to be some old-fashioned running there. I love that. Thank you, Shephyr, for taking time. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, Adam, Shepard. You guys, have a good week. See, buddy.
Starting point is 02:32:47 Dude, everything was like, if it's a calf, it's an interesting thing, you know, so certainly you've got to look into it. People around Christian say he's not worried about it. Now, he's been publicly not worried about it before, and it's been very bad. And then there's a chance, though, this is nothing. And he plays this weekend. And then there's a chance he doesn't play. I mean, that was what Schefter just did.
Starting point is 02:33:11 Yeah, I was like, I got nothing for you, but let me take you on a couple fucking rides. A couple whoopi-wush. Yeah, he's down playing. He doesn't think he's that big of a deal. He's done that before, though, and it's been terrible. There's a chance he plays, and everything's okay. There's a chance he doesn't play.
Starting point is 02:33:24 It was like, that was really well done by Shepter, but I think he's probably still in the gathering of information process with that. That's a huge piece of information. He was the one that broke the Achilles last year, right? Yeah. Kenanitis. It was almost like either when he was on the show or right before he came on the show.
Starting point is 02:33:40 That was devastating. Let's hope CMC is good. But that being said, he's playing and they're covering. I like the San Francisco 49ers in Seattle. And I think this is the year the Niners are back, even though I can't wait to see the Seahawks team year two under MacDonald. Good, AJ. I'm going to have to see if the
Starting point is 02:33:56 Niners as well, whether Christian plays or not. It definitely worries me if it was nothing, he would have finished practice. I mean, it could obviously he could be just, hey, let's make sure we're going to be overly cautious, whatever. But I will take the I hope to see Christian McCaffer out there in warm-ups and full pads and playing this game and finishing everything because, yeah, the NFL needs that guy for sure.
Starting point is 02:34:17 Cramps can feel like a pool. Yeah, like a cramp can feel like a pool. You know, like when I pulled like my quad or something like that, it did at the beginning feel like, oh, there's a little bit of a cramp feel there. And then it just continues. Hamstring, same thing. When you pull your hand, he is like a little bit of a cramping feel. And then it's like, oh, no, that's not a cramping.
Starting point is 02:34:38 you actually tore your shit. Now, that's why everything that Shephyr told us, like, just... Sniff, snap. It felt like a cramp. It felt like a cramp. Well, what it feels like and what it is, could be two very different things. It felt like a horse kicked me in the back of my heel. Oh, you tore your Achilles.
Starting point is 02:34:54 Yeah, so, like, things feeling like things and what they are, we need more clarity. Well, unfortunately, you know, even if he does play, it seems like we're kind of back in the situation when he was in Carolina where every time he touches the ball this season, like you're going to hold your breath and being like oh Jesus Christ I hope he didn't tweak his hammy or tweak his cat like it seems like that is the road we're going down where when he was healthy in San Francisco it wasn't a concern he was just going out there and scoring touchdowns all the time but I I think we're past that point it's just like Tyrese kind of during the playoffs like once it once he heard his calf it was just one of those things you're just you're not like waiting on it but you are very closely watching the extension and that changed how we view all of these calf and oh yeah Christian McCaff I think Tyrese's situation in the NBA guys, that's changed how we view when they sit these guys down here. Okay, good. Don't care. Don't do us. Did we know more than most people with that a CAF thing with Tyrese there for like four days, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a lot.
Starting point is 02:35:54 We were just waiting, like, Shams, what do you know? Is what we're saying? Just like what all has been reported? Yes, you know, like that is. Because we kind of knew we had a little something because the game before there was a fall. It was awkward and it looked weird. And we go, yo, you are right? He's like, ah, I felt a little something. It's like, well, that's not good. You feel a little something? We're in the fucking finals.
Starting point is 02:36:12 That's not. And then the way it plays out there, I can't help. I'm still heartbroken for five weeks. He was going to have 50 points. He was hooping early. Never hoops like that. Ever, never that aggressive, never that. It's right.
Starting point is 02:36:25 He'll come back and do it again. Love you, Ty. Hell yeah, Tyree. Good luck to your Iowa State team, Ty. Nah, fuck them. Fuck them. Whose favorites? Love you, though, Tyrese.
Starting point is 02:36:38 Iowa State is. It's like one of the house. Rocco Beck can spin that day. They have looked very good. Very fiscal. Yeah, especially. He was in Ireland. I was up in 2.3.m. when I was in Australia,
Starting point is 02:36:50 and I'm like, holy fuck, Rocco Becked. This guy could spit it. Yeah. And then I forgot his dad, Anthony Beck, won in W. V.U. Sports Hall of Fame last year. Okay? When he did it, he waited until Iowa State came down. And guess what Rocco Beck did on Hall Fame night for his dad?
Starting point is 02:37:06 Rocco Beck's shit that kid's a player he's a real deal nobody that's just like Carson Beck Carson Beck getting you in and out of the huddle like just executing a play for maybe the first five six weeks of college ball
Starting point is 02:37:19 very important like just getting shit like looking like an operation Carson Beck being able to deal with Miami big deal Rocco Beck when I'm watching that thing in Ireland when I'm in Australia at 330
Starting point is 02:37:32 I'm like how did we how did I not think of Rocko Beck being one of these guys guys. He's been a quarterback for 45 years. He's been a quarterback. He's been a vet in the game, basically, there. I'm worried about Iowa, brother. I don't love it. And Grinowski,
Starting point is 02:37:47 I like that he came out and said there was a little early jitters. I like that he said that. Now, I don't like knowing that, but I like that he said it. You know what I mean, Ty? Yeah, I mean, we'll see. This game, it means a lot more for Iowa this year than it does Iowa State, because I think Iowa State has a legitimate shot to win the Big 12. Iowa's probably, you know, they're not going to win the Big 10. So it's like if they win this game, they could still be one of those dark horse teams that maybe slips into the, you know, an 11 or a 12 seat in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:38:14 But I told you this earlier in the week, Pat. Like, I think, I mean, Iowa State won 11 games last year. I think this year's, like, this is the best Iowa State team Matt Campbell has ever had. And it's a name. So we'll see, though. You know, that's why you fucking, that's why you play the game. That is why you play the game. If Kirk wins, he becomes the all-time winningest Big Ten coach, right?
Starting point is 02:38:33 Yeah, which is pretty remarkable. I think there's going to be a lot of legends on that sideline, from what I've been told. A lot of legends coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's going to be pretty awesome. I don't doubt it. Yeah, I'm very excited to watch that one. Very excited.
Starting point is 02:38:47 All right, let's get to the next game. You pick the Niners. I pick the Niners. Let's go to the Tennessee Titans and the Denver Broncos favored by eight and a half. Biggest spread of the weekend. Gumpch, how do you feel about this game? I'm excited to watch Cam Ward. I know number one rookie quarterbacks don't fare well in their first start,
Starting point is 02:39:04 but I think they cover the points here. AJ, who do you like? I got to take the Broncos, man. Eight and a half is a ton of points, but everyone's, you know, pumping the tires of the Denver Broncos, and I believe in their defense, and I believe in Bo Nix and Sean Peyton. So give me the Broncos. If you're taking the Broncos, you can get eight.
Starting point is 02:39:20 Give me eight. Broncos and eight, maybe seven even. Well, I don't think that is exactly how that was. If we're going to do the best number every single time. I don't know if Tone's giving me three of them where I got to take off a half of them. No, he's not. He's just telling you when you got the full number. I'm giving you the best option.
Starting point is 02:39:37 Okay, good. I'm coachable. I will not do it anymore. Thank you, telling you. You were told that already a couple of times. Yeah, you sack of bones. I enjoyed it. Good to have you back alive, Conman.
Starting point is 02:39:45 I'm glad you didn't kill yourself. Yeah, me too. You almost walked right into that brick wall. Your head almost hit that brick wall. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Not dead. Ryan.
Starting point is 02:39:59 Ryan. I'll go with the Broncos as well, minus eight. I like Cam Ward. I like them a lot. I have no idea what their team looks like. So just give me the Broncos. I like the Broncos. Good vibes out of Broncos.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Boatnik's probably going to be even better. I would assume much better because his work. I think everything everybody talks about them, just like Jalen hurts. Vance. Yeah, Vance with that defense. It's a rookie. I mean, just, I like the Broncos there. I don't know if we should with as many points as that is.
Starting point is 02:40:27 Obviously, that's a lot of points for week one in the NFL, but I'll take it. Lions, Packers. Packers favored by one and a half. At home in Lambo With the debut, the number one The Curly Lambeau wore Michael Parsons In front of the cheese heads Over there in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Starting point is 02:40:46 Who are the Detroit Lions? Oh, they were just the number one seed in the NFC last year. What? They lose all their coordinators, though. Nobody knows what's going on anymore. Not making the playoffs. They got lucky last year.
Starting point is 02:40:59 Yeah. Peter Schroger, man who we respect. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And like. Love, Shrager. Love you, Shanks. He says, Detroit Lines, not even making the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:41:10 Now, at that moment, we thought he was stupid. Doesn't mean we don't still respect and appreciate it. That is certainly something. MCDC is the culture there, in my eyes. So the way he has talked about having to change over coordinators, and obviously every team hopes to be successful enough that every other team wants their coordinators. So this is something that MCDC is certainly prepared for
Starting point is 02:41:30 or wished for with his program. But he has said, if I'm doing this right, You can take me out of here, man, and they'll just continue to operate. So I think the way he's viewing it is like, okay, how are you doing their underdogs to start the season? Fox, anything I need to know about this Lions team? No, amen to every single word you just said. I'll give you guys one stat. Jared Goff in week one in his career, 8-0 against the spread.
Starting point is 02:41:55 I personally feel like this is kind of a TCU North Carolina situation. We're TCU. No one's talking about us. Everyone's talking about Green Bay. They got a new toy. Everyone's excited about them in the NFC North. So I think Dan Campbell's going to take a little bit of motivation from that. And I really like what we can do in Lambo this weekend.
Starting point is 02:42:14 I'll tell you what, man. Sonny Dyke said those guys. Where you go, man? Fucking had them, man. I like the Lions plus one and a half. You can get them at plus two and a half. Boom. Perfect.
Starting point is 02:42:26 I'll do that. Is that because of Micah? I don't know. Just what a book is offering plus two and a half? I don't tell you. It did. It did move a point since the trade. Yeah, fucking Superboot, probably, if I had to get it.
Starting point is 02:42:38 Yeah, it sounds like a Super Boost. Ty, Green Bay Packers' owner at Lambo, Micah's debut, a strip sack score would be outrageous and certainly possible. Jared Goff gets a ball out quick. They run a lot of quick throws, at least with Ben Johnson, they did that. Do you have any worries about what the lions are going to look like? Do you think you're not going to know who they are? Do you think LaFlor is going to have some questions?
Starting point is 02:43:03 No, I don't think so. I mean, I agree with Foxy. I don't love going into this game that people are acting like the Lions didn't win 15 games last year and that they fucking stink because they, you know, have had their way with the Packers really in the Dan Campbell era for the most part. I think they're a little bit more talented than Bill Belchek's North Carolina team. So I don't know if we're going to get like a 45-16 type deal. But, I mean, Jordan Love already said it, hey, I can see it right now. You know, defense gets announced first.
Starting point is 02:43:31 Mike is the last guy out. The Lambeau goes fucking crazy. I think there's a good chance that's going to happen. I like the Packers. I really do. Again, everyone's kind of been gassing them up saying, hey, Jordan Love MVP. Packers might go to the Super Bowl. But I really do
Starting point is 02:43:47 think it's time. And I think Josh Jacobs, he played very well against the Lions both times last year. I don't think Love needs to go out there and throw for 350 for the, you know, the Packers to win. But I do think they get it done at home. They need to. Hey, Jay, do you hear Micah said he hates Detroit?
Starting point is 02:44:03 I did. Yeah, I did. And he also said he loves a profit, too. After Jordan Love, you know, kind of said exactly what should happen and what is most likely going to happen on Sunday. Give me the Packers at whatever line tone wants to give me, whatever. One and a half. Okay, I get it at one and a half. All right. Tom's not giving a fine. Defensive touchdown.
Starting point is 02:44:19 You got your minus two and a half, obviously. No, plus. So the way it works in gambling is the favorite is minus. Yes. And the underdog is part. You guys been telling me this for like five years, I know. Yeah, so what? I'm saying, what? I'm saying, what do I get it at? Packers are minus.
Starting point is 02:44:33 The best number you can get the packers at is minus one. He's the lowest minus number and the best number for the other team is the highest plus number. So that's why he has plus two. I'm taking minus one to half. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I nailed it.
Starting point is 02:44:45 Shout out to, like, you think Tones writing these down like it's healing. The T. I know he's surfing the web, getting the best lines. Tung, can he give me this? Like you're negotiating. What numbers do you give me this one?
Starting point is 02:45:01 Let's try it. What does you say, defensive Tud? I think a defensive Tud in this game, for sure. I don't know what team, but I think there will be one. What are the odds on that? Just a hunch? Probably 300. Brandt gets loose, too, man.
Starting point is 02:45:16 Lyons secondary has a lot of takeaways. And Jordan Lov likes to give it. So the Packers last year. Yeah. Packers' second. The defense to score, it was plus 700. There it is. That's a winner.
Starting point is 02:45:30 That's a winner. That's a winner. Let's go. Texans, Los Angeles Rams. Texans had a down year last year. A lot of injuries. C.J. Stroud, rolling back into this year with a lot of people thinking he's going to be back at his best form like he was his rookie year. Los Angeles Rams had Matthew Stafford back. He was in the back of a trailer for a little bit.
Starting point is 02:45:47 People were wondering what the hell was wrong with him. Well, he's got Devonte Adams now, a wide receiver. Pook and Akua is there. They got a run game that's insane, and Sean McVeigh is still a super genius. They almost knocked off the Philadelphia Eagles last year during that Philadelphia Eagles dominant run. were the closest, came down to final possession. They were on the 15, I think, or maybe the 10 to go in and score. And then Jalen Carter said, game over. And he decided not to spit on anybody, so he actually got to play in the next game, which is a great thing for all parties. I like
Starting point is 02:46:15 the Los Angeles Rams. I also like the Houston Texans. Give me the Houston Texans plus three and a half or whatever is the biggest line that I can get. Three and a half is the biggest. Gumpy, how do you feel about that? I'm worried about the Texans old line. Tradeaway Tunsel. There's a lot of unknowns there. I like the Rams covering the three. three and a half here. Rams, they're in who? Rams, you can get at three. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:46:37 I'll take the three. Whose house? Rams' house. All right, give me the Texans here. Give me the Texans. So I get the Texans at plus three and a half. Yes, you do. I don't love how good the Rams D line is and how they can get pressure.
Starting point is 02:46:51 I do not feel great about that. But I think, I assume that the Houston Texans feel like, hey, no one's given us a chance. No one's talking about us. Like our backs against the well, we need to remind people who we are. I forgot about that D-line. Give me the Rams, actually, minus three. You had them first, I think. I think you had the Rams.
Starting point is 02:47:07 No, I'd text them. Yeah, I'll take the Rams, minus three. The biggest issue last year was C.J. Stroud had no time, right? Yep, great. No line. No Joe Mixin. Chubb, I think, is going to be their starter.
Starting point is 02:47:20 And then no Christian Kirk. Jaden Higgins, rookie will start on me now. On the other side. Oh, yeah. I'll stay with the Texans. Give me the Texans. Eco Collins.
Starting point is 02:47:31 good i like that i would take the rams minus three even though love the texans um sunday night football here we go mvp versus mvp team that need super bowl versus team that need super ball team that can win super bowl versus team that can win the super bowl both teams representing the a fc of the east it's the buffalo bill's playing host of the a fc north baltimore ravens now dan ralovsky said lamar jackson's got more pressure to win a super bowl than john Josh Allen. How many Super Bowls is Josh Allen won? Dumpy? Zero. Josh Allen feels the pressure of having to win a Super Bowl as well.
Starting point is 02:48:08 Both these guys understand their legacy is that they are great quarterbacks. Will they be immortal? Will they win Super Bowls? That is the only thing they're hunting. The Buffalo bills went all in this offseason. Brandon Bean was actually looking for money in the cushions of catches so he could pay for more players to come up there to Buffalo. They got an OG back in Jordan Poirer on the defensive side.
Starting point is 02:48:28 They maybe have the best left tackle in football who likes to drift the shit out of cars. And Josh Allen is the prototype of what everybody's looking for. Now, Lamar Jackson, impossible to find. Unicorn. One of one. I was watching his Louisville highlights just the other day. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 02:48:45 Dog. I couldn't even fathom trying to prepare for him. I wish I was on a show like college game day whenever he was in college. Holy shit. I would have been losing my mind every single weekend. And then remember, he was told he's going to be a wide receiver. Him and his mom hung in the pocket. Now what does he become? Oh, the guy with the highest passer
Starting point is 02:49:01 rating in the NFL, and also the most rush yards at the quarterback position, and he's the most explosive player on the field whenever he's on the field. He's primed and ready to go with an absolute workhorse in Derek Henry, who's still in his prime, and KVN and the boys on the defensive side alongside Kyle Hamilton, got Chuckie Pagano delivering donuts on Saturdays before I walk through. Yes, she does. I love that this is Sunday night football week one. I am thankful that this is Sunday night football week one, and AJ, I can't wait for you to pick this game first.
Starting point is 02:49:31 and tell me why. I would gladly pick this game first. So I am biased because I saw about 20 minutes of a Hard Knocks episode a couple days ago on the Buffalo Beals and watching those guys interact and making pizzas. Is it kind of recovering, their center, watching him make pizzas with the O line and hearing them congregate and their fellowship together and watching how these dudes love each other, give me the Buffalo Beals here.
Starting point is 02:49:56 What's my line going? Plus one and a half. Plus one and a half. Here we go. I will say, Hard Knocks, makes you fall in love with everybody. And the Buffalo Bills are certainly another example of that. I love that team.
Starting point is 02:50:06 I love that city. I love that community. I like how nice they are to us. Baltimore Ravens, not really. At all. Kind of not. Kind of hate the Ravens.
Starting point is 02:50:18 Now we're talking about it, actually. No, I love the Ravens. Strictly because how fun Lamar is to watch. And their defense, growing up in Pittsburgh, you understand the respect everybody has for Baltimore in their defense.
Starting point is 02:50:30 And it's like, That is continued. I got massive respect for the Baltimore. Who do you like? Is there a reason why the line flipped tone? It was plus one and a half ravens yesterday. I do not know. All right.
Starting point is 02:50:41 I still like the Ravens to win it. You could get them at minus one, the Ravens. There it is. I'll take the Ravens as well. I'll take the Ravens as well. What a game. What a game. Chuck Fagano,
Starting point is 02:50:51 undefeated after returning back to the NFL. True story. You go, Chuck. That's what's going to say. Come on, that's we're going to say Monday morning. We're going to shade this guy's off to a hot shirt. Teens is going to be eating his ass so hot.
Starting point is 02:51:04 Jesus. And if they don't win, if they don't win, if they don't win, if they don't win, if they don't win, that's not a funnish for Chuck. If they don't whizh. There's no waffles to in his ass check. They don't win. I don't think there's no waffling happening with Chuck. All right. You guys have a fantastic weekend.
Starting point is 02:51:26 I'll see you guys on Monday. Tomorrow, college game day is going to be electric. Hell yeah. middle of campus. I mean, it's literally right in middle of campus. It's an interesting setup here. This one's different than everywhere. We are literally right in the middle of campus. There's two sidewalks and we're right in a middle building. Right on a quad. Is it called a quad if there's no close, if it's more of a U? Would that be a right on a U? A truck.
Starting point is 02:51:51 Did you have a quad at the WVU? I'm sure there's one somewhere. That's on campus? I don't know. I don't know. I assume there is one somewhere. It was great, though. It was an honor to be there when I was there at the quad at West Virginia University. You guys have a quad in Columbus? We have the Oval. It's called.
Starting point is 02:52:12 Oh, that makes sense. The O, yeah. Because the O. So it might be the U. Yeah. How about this game? How about this game? Tox the table.
Starting point is 02:52:21 Make a pick. Oklahoma. Oh, man. Ties on Oklahoma. Conner's on. I'll take Michigan plus five and a half. Don't have to be spread, no, just winner. Oh.
Starting point is 02:52:35 Yeah, Oklahoma. Okay, Oklahoma, two at the toxic table. One half of the hammer. God. Cowboys, AP Town. Who do you like? Michigan. Nice.
Starting point is 02:52:48 That'd be a huge win for Sharon Moore and Bryce Underwood, who just turned 18 three weeks ago. Yeah. That's crazy. He's this tall. That block he laid was awesome. I just saw that last night. That was sick. insane.
Starting point is 02:53:01 Dumpy? Michigan, for sure. Jesus for sure. They're good, man. They just need a quarterback. A.J., you're never going to pick the team up north, huh? I think Michigan's really good. I do, but I think Oklahoma wins this one.
Starting point is 02:53:14 Yeah, red team, you know, not Michigan. I like Venables, too. I'm biased towards Venables, well, I love his energy. I love his pizzazz. If Venables doesn't shut down, that's 18-year-old on the road at home, his first real start because New Mexico just started their football team last year, I think.
Starting point is 02:53:33 I don't know if there's a chance. That's not me. First game I've ever seen. Then there's a chance Underwood might be the greatest quarterback that college football has ever seen if he does that. I might have talked to a coach from Michigan last night.
Starting point is 02:53:50 Okay. And what was being said about Bryce Underwood was like, hey, here, elite. like super mature super super he's getting paid more money than anybody in the history of college ball and he's probably been recruited
Starting point is 02:54:06 since he's what 13 years old for sure so like I guess mentally like he's even more impressive somehow than his physical stature and what he's able to do there and they're like when he showed up at 17 it was like everybody was just wildly confused that humans could be like this you know
Starting point is 02:54:22 like they had no idea the ball comes out real clean I mean real clean throw And then in between the years, I guess he's like poised, confident, comfortable, approachable, but also like knows what's going on on the other side. They're like, this is the one. This is Neo here is what they're saying about him. So if he's able to make a Venables defense at home here in Norman, which should be insane,
Starting point is 02:54:46 if he's able to have success against them, obviously we're going straight into Heisman conversations for this Rice Underwood kid as an 18-year-old. And it's like, let's go. And then on the other side, Mateer, he might do the same shit. He's getting a huge game here, fresh off a massive one last week. It's like, I like these early weeks because we have no idea who's going to show up. We have no clue who is who, you know? And it should be a blast tomorrow morning, AJ.
Starting point is 02:55:11 I appreciate the hell out of you driving over to Thunderdove, brother. Oh, of course. It's awesome. Good to see here. The boy's good to see you and Gump. I mean, I think it's going to be, I think this game's going to be awesome, Oklahoma, Michigan. What a good early match. We don't have a ton of other matchups on the slate for college that are super high.
Starting point is 02:55:25 But I like this. Whoa. I like the Illinois Duke game. No joke. Illinois is I think Illinois is pretty legit this year. Texas. W.U. against Ohio Bobcats. I'm going to be watching that one, I promise you.
Starting point is 02:55:38 The border war. The border war. Don't sleep on South Florida. Florida now. South Florida. Kill, Boise State. Florida, the 17.5 point favorites over USF. Yeah, that one feels like a lot of points. Florida has tough next seven weeks.
Starting point is 02:55:56 schedule is hell. Seven. I don't even know if it's six weeks, but count this USF game as a tough one. Like this is not a gimmie here. But if you're to look at the Florida schedule preseason looking at it, you would think somebody hates Billy Napier. Patel, same as it was last year, exact same. Yeah, because midway through the year, remember Billy Napier was getting called to get fired. And then we looked at their schedule and it was like, buddy, you got no cupcakes coming over five, six weeks. But then he started winning those games. And that's when it was like, wait a minute, Napier has his culture set. Lagway might
Starting point is 02:56:27 be a guy. It's like they got it again. They got Florida. They got Miami. They got LSU. They got Texas. They got Texas. Yeah, they got us making that schedule. Why would you do this hell? The Gauntlet. Yeah, did we say Texas? I think they got tech.
Starting point is 02:56:42 Yeah. Don't they have another Florida? Don't they have Florida State? So, yeah. Florida State to end the season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There it is. Everybody we said. Everybody that is difficult, Georgia as well. At LSU, at night. At A&M, that's going to be a fucking nightmare.
Starting point is 02:56:59 Elko's got another year under his belt down there. They got Georgia at home, no. They're okay. That won't be too bad. They should let Billy Nate here at the end of the year just rank the top 10 because he's played them all. Like, hey, who would you say is the most difficult? Good luck down here, boys, the Gators.
Starting point is 02:57:18 Hey, live way knows. Nighter will figure it out. And we appreciate you scheduling that to go back to Sabin's Point. We appreciate these tough games being scheduled because it's good for college ball as a whole. We're lucky to be here. Let's have the greatest weekend of all time.
Starting point is 02:57:31 Football is all the way back. Be your friend, tell the friends something nice. Great work over there, boys. Behind the glass, go work all week. You too, dude. Well done. Good luck tomorrow. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:39 To the Foxy Department, the graphic boys. Way to go, boys. Oh yeah, boys. Good job. So it talks the table. You guys cross you. Way you go. Thank you, too, brother.
Starting point is 02:57:52 Tone, way to go this week. Good luck. Hope the Steelers are a good team this year. And also, up to you, brother. I'm swiss. Thank you. Happy NFL football a day. No one else had that. You're the best.
Starting point is 02:58:01 Thanks for traveling. Nobody, except for you. Yep. That was tough yesterday. I just ducks on a pond all over the fucking place. That's how it's going to be sometimes. You got to get above that. You got to look around sometimes and realize, like AJ Hawk would say,
Starting point is 02:58:15 we are in the good old days right now. Live on good old days. This is it. This is it. We're in football season. Every team. Trevor Alabama has hope. That was fucked up.
Starting point is 02:58:25 Oh, geez. You guys still have hope. There's a lot of games. Just one game. I know, I know, I know. You didn't deserve it. Roll-tied. We still got, every team still has a lot of hope.
Starting point is 02:58:36 Okay? Not Ohio University. They got a tough one this weekend. But every fan base has an opportunity to say we can be champions. Let's live in this moment. Because in a few weeks, there's going to be a lot of teams that are going to say we're ass. We don't have a chance.
Starting point is 02:58:48 We're just going to try to ruin somebody else's season. Ruin somebody else's chance of going to get a trophy. So at this moment, this weekend, let's look around and say, this is what we fucking came here for. Hell yeah. Let's enjoy it all. Be your friends, tell our friends, something nice. It might change your life.
Starting point is 02:59:01 We're listening together. ESPN crew that set this all up. Thank you so much. Thank you. Great work. Incredible work. Incredible work. You too, Mike.
Starting point is 02:59:07 Audio, camera, everything. Barcodes, crew. Appreciate that. Ryan. Did a great job. Good job. Good job. Good job.
Starting point is 02:59:16 Good a drink, Ryan. Maybe find a hobby. or a new job. He just threw a paper. That was her. See, that was a good game right there, Ryan. You should have done that.
Starting point is 02:59:28 You see what I sent in the group text? Yeah, I saw it. Can somebody pull that up? Can we? There it is. Oh, there it is, Con. You saw it now. There it is.
Starting point is 02:59:37 I already seen this, but again, it wasn't live. Who knows if that actually happened? Hey, Dan, I was here. My eyes saw it. So did it. It was a beautiful thing. It's all right.
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