The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1409 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, Derwin James, WVU Head Coach Rich Rodriguez, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined by 3x Super Bowl Champion, 2x AP Coach of the Year, Bruce Arians to recap last night’s Monday Night Doubleheader and to wrap up week 2 of the NFL season as a whole. Joining the progrum to recap last night’s massive win, the culture change in LA, his relationship with Justin Herbert, Jim Harbaughism’s, and much more is 4x All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowler, and current superstar Safety for the Los Angeles Chargers, Derwin James Jr.. Later, West Virginia Head Football Coach, Rich Rodriguez joins the show to chat about a massive Backyard Brawl against Pitt, if the hard edge is starting to form, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humbley Bo, the Thunderdome, on this B.A. Day, September 16th, 2025. This program begins now. Football! It is magical. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. A lot of football conversation after the two-piece last night. That's all the Bucks beat the Texans. Congratulations to the Buccaneers down there in Tampa Bay. Also, I thought the Texan's head, and then Baker Mayfield starts cooking in the kitchen, and all of a sudden, Baker, Baker, the touchdown maker does just that, and they steal a dub. Congratulations to them on the road. And also, road team chargers go into Las Vegas, get a massive win. We got Derwin James joining us, fresh off the massive dub here in about 15 minutes or so, and potentially the touchdown maker down there in Tampa Bay if we can get a hold.

Nonetheless, we will chitch out about the greatness from last night that went late into the evening. And also all the storylines now that come out of this. past weekend of ball. We're just at the beginning of the season, but we're already starting to rule some teams out, aren't we? Yeah, that's right. We're already starting to crown some teams, aren't we? Yeah.

And maybe we're starting to learn about some teams, like, maybe this Chargers team's for real. Yeah. And maybe this Buccaneers team has something a little bit inside of that chest that they got there that might be able to propel them to some magical seasons and moments once again down there in the beautiful Tampa Bay City. We are incredibly lucky today.

It's not just the talks at table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmitt. Back-to-back days with the jacket. How do we feel about it, Ty Schmidt? You know, I probably wouldn't have, but listen, I love the Nor'Easter. You know, if I know Connor, he's going to wear this probably every day for the next month, so we might as well just get used to it. Okay, so this is just you right now? Oh, look, I'm not going to change the recipe up.

I know that. Patriots won. I had my Nike rivalries jersey on. Do I want the Patriots keep winning? Yeah. So the, right now, the sample sizes, NFL Nike's rivalry gear, not that poopie company. The Nike one, that gear leaves the bigger. Not talking about Adidas.

once again. I love Adidas. I got... Or Puma. Or Puma. That's all about Puma. Shout up to the Hally Avatar's. The Hally One. The Hally One, Opals. The Aphal's. The avatars, these are very comfortable. They make me look taller. I'm a little bit more athletic. Feel pretty sprying. Oh, yeah. Like a jungle cat. Like a Puma. You know what I mean?

I would like to say Puma's paid me zero dollars would certainly wear other company shoes on a regular basis. With that being said, the Hallie ones are awesome. Yeah. And I'm glad. Caitlin's got shoes. Hallie's got shoes. Don't look now, Indianapolis, about to become the shoe at the center of the world, baby. These are nice.

They are. These are nice. Pat, would you ever wear Puma's? People would ask. Sure. Maybe a week ago. Sure. I see, absolutely not.

What are we talking about? Puma? I don't think so. That's what I would have said. I get that, yeah. Okay, that's what I would have said. What an ignorant statement that would have been? Because I had no idea.

Boom! These are coming. into the world. Look how cool they look. They're really like Pandora and Avatar. So shout out too. Look at this guy too. Look at them. Man. At the Halley, Mark. There's a lot of Halley things.

People put a lot of things at the end of that. They do. Love it. Some three-letter ones. Not great. Not great. Not great. But all the other ones, Halliballin, the Hall of Man with an M. There's a lot of things that happen. Now we got to Halley once. We will support and they do feel great

and they are cool-looking. With that being said, this jacket just can't be every single day. I don't think this. For the whole season, what if you guys are good? You know what I saw the way through the Super Bowl? That'd be wonderful.

But don't worry, there's other gear. And to your point, though, Adidas. We love Adidas. We love Adidas. Yeah, we got some ideas for it. We got some IDitas, if you will.

Oh, I mean, think about that. The shout-tows there, they shout-off there, you know, like run DMC. We would. We love those. We got a lot of ideas. You know, those lines are pretty thick. Why don't we sleek them out? You know, everything's sleek these days. Why don't we make the lines a little thinner?

I don't know. We don't stick with that one either. I'm sure you're pretty committed to the stripes. No, James and Company Locke. We are open to Iowa. Multiple. Adidas is spending a lot of money with a lot of football and a lot of sports right now. And we'd like to say to Adidas, thank you. Good brain.

Great play. That's nine-year NFL event. speaks the truth. Great friend. Also, hey, we don't mind the Hallie ones either. Don't mind those. The Opels. O'Poles.

There are O and 1 right now in the Thunderdome. You know, me and comment couldn't get it done against you boys yesterday. But they felt great. We felt great. And what we know about Halley is, it's not over until it's over. So one game, we're down in O'1 in the series. Felt great. You guys lost very bad yesterday.

That's what I'm saying. You felt great in them? I felt good. Yeah, well, you know, more like Opel. if you will. Yeah, for you guys. Not for us, though. Foxy and I weren't wearing them at the time,

but we certainly got hot. That's what the opals do. They brought us great vibes because he's a point guard. You know, so he's spreading to love everywhere. They're beautiful shoes. Dee Buck, great to see you. And a man who's joining us with another sick hangal hat, a man who always looks cooler than anybody else in the room that he is in.

47 years he spent coaching ball, 27 in the NFL, Super Bowl champion, ladies a gentleman, multiple time. Bruce Harry. Yay! Coach, big night last night, obviously for your Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I know you've coached in a lot of places. Tampa Bay currently home and your last stop

and one of Superboys, their head coach. This Baker-Mayfield guy special. It feels like the Buccaneers might be bottling something down there. What were your thoughts after watching the game? And how do you feel about the boys down there in Buccaneers? Yeah, I thought it was a hell of a game, especially about Baker just willed his team to win this game, you know. When you look around the league, you lose both tackles.

You've got a center playing left tackle, and then you've got your backup playing right tackle. And you just win a ball game, running the ball. great job by Josh Prasard. I thought Colin plays and sticking to the run and then Baker does what he does. That's why he's a head coachmaker. He is the head coach maker.

Liam Cohen gets a head coaching job after working with Baker Mayfield. David Canales gets a head coaching job after working with Baker Mayfield. And obviously both of those guys were credited with turning around Baker Mayfield's career, but maybe Baker, we're just seeing what Baker is here. I think Baker might have turned their careers around.

Okay. Okay, that's a fellow coach, Obviously, Bruce Ariens, who understands if you have good players, you can be a damn good coach all of a sudden. Baker Mayfield has been special. Let's go to the two-minute drive last night, Dee Butch. You're talking about everything that is Baker Mayfield kind of encapsulated in one moment. And it was a game-winning moment for the entire Buccaneer. Yeah, B.A talked about it, willing his team to a victory. It's now back-to-back week where Baker Mayfield has played his best football down the stretch.

We get to the two-minute drive. Let's start here in the fourth and ten. Texas sent pressure up the middle. He scrambles. And he was already banged up at this point in the game. The scrambles picked up a big, huge first down to keep it going and keep that clock ticking. Right here, not really in a big rush, but getting it done, not burning timeouts. Out route to Kay it out and to the right side of the field.

He gets out of balance, heads up play. Then dump it off the Bucky Irvin. This is when you have talented backs. You get the ball in their hands. Let him do something special in space. Big time play, protecting the ball as well. And now you get up right outside of that red area. Then you know who he's looking for it down here.

13 had a tough matchup against Stingley most of the night found some space got a little dump off down there and once again inside 30 seconds still didn't call the time out we got 14 seconds here boom quick little out here to k dot and he gets out of balance and now you're getting up to the ball with two timeouts left nine seconds you probably get what two three plays here be able to run oh definitely they hand it off to white and he gets it in runs it down get that touchdown so big time drive complimentary football I don't know on the defense side of the ball if they let chub score if that was a no-moss situation, but he did score, and then Baker got the ball and played his best ball. Here's that Chub play you're referring to, where the Bucks are up 14-13, know that a field

goal takes the lead for the other team or a touchdown. A lot of people that are connected with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Bruce Ariens included. A lot of people connected with defensive football are saying, it looked a little bit too too easy for Chub there. Was this potentially a no-moss situation for Tampa Bay, knowing that the field goal would take the lead and they could possibly drain out the rest of the clock, and Tampa Bay down one late in the fourth would never get the ball back. That is a situation where you would call no moss.

Definitely, and I can't swear to it, but it sure looked like it. No moss means we're not trying. We'll let the other team score a touchdown so we get the ball back and an opportunity to drive down the field and do exactly what they just did. That would be executing that perfectly if that was what the call was. It would be. It would be smart. You don't do it too often.

It's probably something to happen maybe once or twice in my career. I forget which boxer kind of made it popular, and that's why we use the term no moss. But you get the ball to your quarterback, to your big time quarterback, and he drives, once again, back-to-back weeks. He did the same thing against the Falcons. Didn't start off great. And this Texas, you mentioned we had a center, you said, playing left tackle. Daniel Hunter's over there.

Yeah, you got Danil Hunter. You got Will Anderson. I think he had eight or nine pressure. So this is a tough, tough defense. So for you to get in a situation where you know it's going to be a must-passing situation in two-minute drive and for Baker to get the ball down there, using his legs doing that fourth and ten, that was huge. So a big-time ball from Baker, the touchdown maker.

Roberto Duran versus Sugar Ray Leonard the second. I guess that is called the No Moss fight. His professional boxing match on November 25th, 1980, where Sugar Ray Leonard defeated Roberto Duran by TKO in the eighth round to regain the WSU after a tactical boxing match where Leonard used his superior movement and skills to outbox the aggressive Duran. Duran quit in the eighth round,

famously uttering no moss. This shocking turn of events tarnished Duran's reputation while Leonard's victory was a triumphant return to form. Hell yeah. Congratulations to Sugar Regis. I'll ask him. That was Homer Simpson, too, wasn't he? Yep, I believe so.

That was Homer Simpson's entire thing. Like, we're just going to wear him out here, let him go ahead and tire himself out, no moss, no moss. If they called that in that moment, week two, that would be very heads-up football. Insane. And also, the guy's selling it, running as. Yeah. There would be a lot to that if they called it.

Yeah, big it. But it worked out well. Let's go to the second game. Obviously, second game late night, 10 p.m. start. After a thriller, okay, emotional high there after the Baker-Mayfield Drive with Tampa Buccaneers. Holy hell, did you bet the Texans? Yeah. Did you lose right there?

Yeah. In the final 10 seconds? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, all that happens. And then you're kind of, and then, oh, yeah, I forgot now. We got Justin Herbert and his Chargers team that might be for real here in Hardball's second year and almost having the culture kind of plugged in place. and Justin Herbert last year,

are we seeing the best Justin Herbert of all time this year? Sure feels like you here two weeks in. And he's doing Hollywood. He's more famous lady. I mean, Justin Herbert's fully blossoming into everything that everybody thought in the best possible ways as the face of this new team and this new city. He is dominant, has been, and seems like will be,

for this entire season. And then Harbaugh's entire culture kind of settled in, especially on the defensive side, it felt like Debuts. Yeah, he came over from, out after he won that national championship in Michigan kept his defensive coordinator Jesse Mentor. And since coming over, we went out to L.A. and talked to him.

He's like, I don't know how long I'm going to have this guy. He'll probably be a head coach soon. And you look at this charge's defense. Not a lot of household names. That's first play. Yep. Yeah, Gino, he was in hell all night long, but not a lot of household names. You got Khalil Mack. You got Durwin James. Outside of that, not a lot of guys

that just casual fans would know, but they're always on the same page. And it looked like everything was tough for the Raiders. Every time he never got comfortable in the pocket, Gino. He was looking for checkdowns early. And anytime somebody touched the ball, it was just a bunch of white jerseys flying around getting people down. 15, I believe over 15 pass, defense, passes, defended, however you want to say it. This team did three takeaways. And Durwin James, you saw one of them up the middle. He batted the ball down. I can't wait to talk to him because he's kind of a chest piece

that you can move all around the field. He can rush the passer. He can cover tight ends. You had The Brock Bowers, he was matched up with him a tonne last night. He just does everything for that defense. Kind of the heartbeat of him. John Harbaugh said a lot about him. He kind of speaks about him the way he speaks about his quarterback, Justin Herbert. So just a great team, a great culture they have right now in L.A. Coach Harbaugh loves physical football.

I think he loves the fact that they have a great defense. But let's talk about Justin Herbert, Coach, B.A. Now, he tall, fast, handsome, humble, loves ball. I've told the story before. When we went out to Oregon for college game day, I got a chance to meet his dad. And his dad was telling a story about how much him and his brothers loved ball. They actually had to tape uprights onto the wall in the living room because they would play tackle football in the living room, and they would want to kick the extra point.

So now Justin Herbert, you see tape from training camps where he's kicking field goals. I guess he just loves, he can punt to, he can kick, loves ball. Like since he was a kid obsessed with the sport, he's seemingly coming into his own with a coach that seems to be the perfect yen to his yin. Do you agree with that? Oh, totally, yeah. When they put that running game with him, and John, you know, Jim Harbaugh in the running game, that's hand and hand, you know.

But now he's got everything. He's got Keenan Allen back. He's got the young receiver from TCU. Quentin Johnson. Doing a great job. Catching everything this year. Protecting him. I've always loved him coming out.

He's got all the size. He's got every measurable possible, and he's got the great mind that goes with it. How come, you know, it felt like for the first, how many years here of his career? Four? Yeah.

I guess four years of his career everybody said Herbert's good Herbert's good but they never really won anything Is that just strictly because everybody with their eyes knew he could be a guy if he was given their right opportunity? Yeah you're not going to win in too many games throwing it 50 times a game you know now they got a great balance

they got that hardball toughness about them and I think this Charger team for real yeah I think we all think that especially here after the first two weeks and boy good for that Chargers faithful those fans are very loyal Love my squad, man.

They love their team. Love my squad, man. Boat up, baby. Bowed up. My squad, man. We've been through it, man. We've been waiting. And here we are.

You guys have been through it. City change. You guys were in an MLS stadium for a while. Remember, people were saying to your team, you guys are in away game at home games because your fans don't show up and your fans hate your team. It was obviously the L.A. Rams

win the Super Bowl in Los Angeles. The same city you're trying to go in. It's like, man, that was a hard day. He's had a couple of coaches make some bad, bad, bad decisions in critical moments, bad. The CBS and we did a game of Stubbub against the Niners, it was all red. Yeah, exactly. It was bad days, brother. We're pulling up the Stubhub for an NFL game.

I'm like, where the hell are we? Bad days, brother. Everything he's saying, bad days. Mary Ann Doe is there, though. You don't go back to San Diego, D, bud. Don't do that. You started in L.A. and you know what? I was born abroad.

Born in Germany, the first city that I lived in was actually San Diego. Of course. So finally, DeVote has come home to Southern California. So, yeah, the Chargers faithful, which you have been won over the last few years. You picked them to go to the Super Bowl a few years back. That's because you had so much faith, and I think in hope in Justin Herbert to play from everything that he just mentioned there. Now the team around them seems like it's a thing. Yeah, I mean, it's all about.

The best kicker, the best kicker that ever started. 100 kicks, first 100 kicks in the NFL, best there's ever been. I thought Brandon Aubrey had to be the greatest. And then literally that night, they're like, nah, actually this guy's the best there's ever been. 94 out of 100 or something like that. It's all facets of their game, strong, all of them seemingly tough and all of them humble. It's a crazy, and they've got a brand new practice facility. It's like they're doing it right out there.

It's got to feel good to be a Chargers fan. You talked about that facility. We always say it starts from the top down, when it starts from the top down from the organizational level. They're obviously investing in the team, giving them all the things they want. And then that culture, you have a guy like Jim Harbaal come in and then to be able to adjust because a lot of people expect, and you talked about it, you know, and I'm sure they will get back to more of the running game with Greg Roman. But it's been more of an open offense. They let Justin Herbert do a little more. Johnson stepping up being big in the

passing game, Lab McCona, he'll continue to be in the dog. And then Kenan Allen coming back and still getting it done. And then that offensive line, Joe Alck, that draft pick, I think we'll look back at this draft pick, and he'll be one of the probably all-time greats at that tackle position, and you're seeing the best come out of Justin Herbert. Not only the fantastic throws and the big top 300-yard games, but now putting your team in position to win games. Had a little fumble there late.

Got a little ugly with Max Crosby where we can have it in the back field, but closing out games and actually getting wins is being big for them. Max Crosby is incredible to watch. You can put the Raiders on prime time anytime, strictly so we can watch their defense. More specifically, Max Crosby. Speaking of defense last night, the Chargers defense was a big storyline. Three turnovers, obviously, is huge.

But also, if they are just going to play that way, forget Justin Herbert. They can win games themselves. It feels like on the defensive side. And there's a dude who's a monster on that side of the ball con man. Yeah, ridiculous. Derwin James. I mean, it's very similar to the Packers and Michael Parsons, like the Packers fight of the ball. We talked about it.

They were on prime time. It's just like what the Chargers do. And it starts with Derwin James. Last night, third down. And he's covering Brock Bowers right before the ball. this play. Now he's rushing the passer on the left guard. Basically exhausted. He covered Brock Bowers. He's run 60 yards down the field and now he's chasing Gino Smith after a big smelly old lineman had his paws all over him. Obviously incomplete. That's the game. Once the

charges get the ball back, they get a couple first downs. But Derwin James running all over the place gets it done. He goes to the sideline and he's in hell. Okay. He's down on the ground and then he pops up, huge smile. And then they cut to Gino Smith and Gino Smith is in space. He's basically in the worst moodies everybody. He threw 364 against New England last week. Everyone's talking about real hoopers and Gino. And then he runs into Derwin James and Jesse Minter in that defense. And Gino and the Raiders are going to be great, but the Chargers defense, it is ridiculous what they do. And he never came off the fields. It feels like

sometimes you go to the box score and you're expecting, you know, 12 tackles. And when you only see seven from Derwin James, you're like, oh, maybe he didn't have a good game. but then you see plays like that. Then you see the... Oh, he's playing D-Tackle. Exactly, yeah. Okay. He's playing outside rush.

He's also in the middle of the field on the play Dibbush. He showed deflecting a pass to get intercepted. He would have had another interception in the red zone on Gino, but his defensive lineman deflected the ball after he uncut the ride. It was just incredible to watch him work. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the inaugural members of the All- Everything DB, That's right.

Wow. Ladies and gentlemen from Florida State, an absolute stallion, last night all over the field, literally and figuratively, playing D-Tackle, Derwin James. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up, what's up, y'all. Hey, I know you just had to listen to Connor say all that, but I'm happy you've got a chance to do that. That's how we feel watching you play ball, man. It feels like whenever Harbaugh gets there and Mentor gets there as the DC, and the way Coach Harbaugh has spoken,

Coach Harbaugh spoke about you being one of the pillars of the team immediately upon arrival does it feel like a perfect culture for you to be in and does it feel like the best culture you guys have had over there in a long time yes sir definitely one of the best cultures we had uh just the way they go about it every day coach Harbaugh coach mentor just setting that standard and uh man uh wouldn't rather have no other guys man they they truly the best man from running brock buyers don 60 70 yards to the de-tackle uh play that we see there at the end on fourth down to win the game and then having to chase him

out of the pocket. Is there a level of exhaustion that comes with your style of play, every play, every single position? Like, how do you even prepare for that in the off season? And what has it been like this year thus far playing everywhere on the field? There's been a lot of fun. I feel like Coach Mentor, like I said, the best defensive coach in this league, does a great job, moving around every week. And not just moving around. I ain't doing my job of movement around where I could do it at a high level. Like you said, man, it's still early in the season, man. We're getting that cardio up, man.

So I can't wait. I think we had a 20-play drive this game, too. So, man, it was a lot of fun, man. It was a lot of fun, man, yeah. We're going to have to keep working on the D-Butt as a question for you. Yeah, Dirk, I was talking about it earlier. Outside of yourself and probably Khalil Mack, y'all are easily the most known defenders, the household names.

But outside of you guys, a bunch of dogs. Tell me about these other guys, still, Henley, all these. heart like you guys just fly around and inflict pain what's what's the mindset going into every week with his mental defense and then tell me a little bit about your running mates man i just say i'll start with day on henley man in that middle man with the green dot my brother man he he's special man uh had a flu game last night man i don't even know how he played but man he gives us everything he got every week every week day in and day out uh definitely man a pro bowl all pro player man um tar he's still another young guy man making a

lot of plays. And like you said, we got a lot of guys. They don't really matter who step out there with Coach Mentor. Honestly, man, I feel like, man, the standard is the standard and whoever out there, they're going to make plays. What is it about his system, though? Like, because you guys, like that, I mean, that shit jumps off tape how you fly around. I think they, less than three and a half yards per play last night. I think they ran 58 plays total. Like, what is it about that defense? And I guess to think, like, that he prepares you guys for going into the game. I say, man, just getting hats around the ball, honestly, running to the ball.

And then when the ball in the air, you see two, three guys around the play. That's why we're making tips on the ball, guys popping it up, making plays. And I feel like coach is always adjusting, man. Coach is always one step ahead, and, man, he's always preparing us. And I feel like he's just on us as players to go out there and just do our job. We've been talking about Justin Herber. The reason why Darius Butler is a fan of your team, I believe, is not only because of you, massive fan of yours. I mean,

the all everything DB team was not easy to put together. It was tough. The inaugural obviously you're on their king. I know you probably found out about this. You probably cried. I had a moment with our family. Congratulations. Tina, I appreciate that. Hey, no problem. It was hard to crack.

Yeah. People were, I mean, people were really advocating for other players as well, including yourself. It was tough. A lot of politics. Yeah, a lot of politics. And DMA stuck to the film. He said, I'm not worried about any of the politicking. People are offering him a lot of stuff. Oh, yeah.

Shoes. People are offering him up shoes. His BA even saw it. He said no. He said no. He said no. I don't want that he had to do it. But on that note, since the beginning of this run in L.A.,

Justin Herbert has been a guy that we've all seen, I think, the potential and, like, the possibilities from outside looking in, just the way he handles himself. Even last night, him flipping that camera off, awesome. Yeah. Like, I think that is. Everything he does, I think, is awesome. Yeah, like, he's humble, everything about him. It feels like this might be the year.

Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Derman, on that note, obviously you're insanely competitive, one of the best players in the league, but how happy are you that you don't have to play against Justin Herbert? And do you guys look around and say, like, wow, we knew how good this guy was, but he just continues to take his game to another level? Yeah, I just can't wait for y'all to get to see what he already been doing

at OTA's training camp going against. to our defense, I feel like he's been giving us great looks. Some of the throws he made, man, in the red zone from just in the pocket, outside. Man, I just feel like he's just growing into his own, man. One of the best quarterbacks in his league. I wouldn't really have no other guy. I love 10. We love 10 as an organization.

And we always feel like long as we got him that quarterback, we always got a chance, man. Are you in the Silver Bells Club? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One 50, man. I'm in there. Hey, tell us about the entire culture of that building, because we were in there. Oh, yeah.

Beautiful building. I say, man, our sports performance team First of all, the facility is amazing And then there's the sports performance team Shout out Coach Herb, man, coach Dev All the guys, man out there I feel like Coach Herb He does a great job

Sending the Coacher Man, and we got a simple bell club And it's the dumbbell club It's circled off like a ring We got the red part around it And if you 1 50 or plus on the dumbbell You get to get your name in there So everybody don't have access to that

So it's a lot of fun just being able to bring a culture I feel like, man, there's some of the best in this league. It's definitely in the sports performance. Well, you guys are in L.A. Obviously, that's a draw for some guys, you know, around the NFL, very talented guys. And then you get to that building, brand new

building, brand new facility. We got a chance to go see it. It's not 2025 ownership invested in 400, 500 million in a practice facility, especially in Los Angeles. Not normal. Like, that is not a normal thing to happen. So you guys got brand new facilities. You talk about

Coach Herb, his vibes were immaculate down that weight room. If you have a good weight room and like a hardworking, let's have fun while working our ass off type culture, which I think Harbaugh is going to bring everywhere. It's like, it feels like you guys are set up for the long haul out. It has to feel like that in there. That we are

first, we got to go on a run. Obviously this year is the right year to do it. Every year is the right year to do it. But it has to feel like you guys are set up here in the culture is already put in place, yes? Yes, sir, and I say definitely with a defense, last year we kind of got our feet wet a little bit

but this year we're definitely trying to take that next step and just make this who we is, make this our culture. I feel like Coach Harbaal, Coach Mentor, like I said, doing a great job and stealing the culture and just make it tough where you want to play the charges, man, you know what you're going to get, it's going to be tough. So we're just trying to keep it going. Not for one game or one practice one day,

but like you say, let it be the culture. And also the uniforms are cool. So great. All of them. There's like 100 of them. Yeah. We saw them all lined up at their facility. It's like, yeah, we have the best uniform of every era.

Don't worry. Be up, boom, bang, pal. Here's all our different uniforms. We'll use them. We're in Los Angeles, the weather, you know. They can really sell some shit to free agents. Oh, yeah. Especially if they win.

Especially if they have a tree company. Especially, I mean, I've heard about that in basketball, potentially. Yeah, yeah, we don't know. We don't know. I don't know. We don't know. We heard it. Pablo Tori sold us.

Okay. That was not us saying of that. No. But it does feel like you guys are building something very special. We're very happy for you, especially for how much work has gone into all of this. Season started to international. Ashley, go ahead, Conman.

Yeah, Derwin, this week was the second game. So you guys have, you know, kind of stacked him up two weeks in a row. Now, how was the Brazil trip? It felt like a massive victory for you guys. Probably didn't have to wait on the tarmac. That was awesome. How was the, you know, the straining conditioning team, though? Just because Mackay Beckton was pooping his pants like the whole time.

So what was that like in Brazil? Well, first of all, there was a lot of fun. Shout out hats off to everybody in our organization, man. It felt like we still was at home. We had all our same equipment. Everything we needed to go in and have success. And I feel like, man, it really allowed us to have time to bond as a team grow closer. You got the officer guys hanging with the defensive guys.

So, man, it was a lot of fun. And we wanted to come back with the W, start the season off right. And, man, we did that. How many Jim Harbaugh sayings do you try to, like, all right, I'm going to write that one down? Is it like an everyday thing? Like, yesterday, after the game, two minutes and 40 seconds, he spoke about you. I don't know when your contract's up next. I got the, I got everything you need for the negotiation.

Okay, it's two minutes and 40 seconds long, is exactly what it is. You can find it on the Chargers social media, is all you need. I love Coach Hallbaugh, man. I love his organization. I love everything about it, man. I can't wait to go out and practice tomorrow, man, so I'm excited. Can you tell me about his messaging, though? Because he is very, it sounds like the way he delivers his message

is what makes us all love him so much. His press conferences are electrifying. I mean, like, every time he speaks, it's great. Can you talk about his messaging a little bit and how he's either different from any coach you've ever had, or? He's one of a kind. There's nobody like I'm talking about all bad. He's different in his own way and in a good way.

He's not going out there with some script or some PowerPoint or, like, none of that. He's giving you real-life advice, real-life situation. It could bend and just happen to him in the hallway. And he's just going to come off and tell you what it is. He can be going off with a story. And then a thought of come to his head here, switch it up. So just him being that, him being that, man, him being different.

We love him. And he always got great stories. It ain't one thing you can just write down because he's going to give you something every day. So, man, great coach, man. So I was just walking in the hall. I saw her lunch lady. She said, coach, great job. And I just thought to myself, wow, this lady.

Yeah. Is that what it's like? Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, so he'll give you something or anything, man. And he'll tie is good. He will make them great. Like, he'll give you, like, the analogy, and he'll give you, like, the analogy, and he'll have tied to football, which make it make sense to us.

So I'm like, man, you got a gift for that, honestly. Because everybody will be looking like, wait, what? And then, like, man, when he really is playing and you really get, you're like, oh, mm. Land the plane. He lands the plane. Everybody will be like, mm. Yeah, yeah, bring it back. Okay, where are we going with this?

Where are we going with this? And then, and that's why. When I tell you guys, we, oh, pretty good, pretty good, yeah, he's electric. We see that at the press conferences. I couldn't imagine behind closed doors we're trying to motivate. Speaking of doing that, man of Coach Ball for 47 years, big fan of yours. Coach Bea has a question for you, Derwin. Derwin, yeah, man, I'm a big, big fan, and prayers out to Clemack.

Hopefully he's okay, and it gets better. But with all these quarterbacks running around right now, and you get your choice of intercepting or knocking one of them out, what do you want to do? Intercept, man. You know, the rules change, rules a little different. I got to get that ball now. I'm trying to get the ball. I'm trying to run people over now.

You can't get the ball for show, coach. Hey, Darwin, let's talk about that, though. Let's extend that point because it happened against you guys. Patrick Mahomes, obviously, doesn't go out, lowers his shoulder. Who is the... About 27? I forget the number on your guy. That immediately led to everybody on our show saying,

okay, if that's what it's going to be, now it's going to be open season. but we're seeing a lot of running from the quarterbacks, like a lot of running from the quarterbacks. How much are you guys thinking about that, obviously? Man, we obviously think about it because, like I said, the quarterback, especially Red Zone, man, they layers come alive, man.

These quarterbacks running more. And you got to count for them. If you don't, you're playing 10 or 11. So being able to know where they are, and we got to attack them like running backs in space if they're going to run like running backs, you know? Yeah, but once they cross the line, we've got to go tackle them like running backs, honestly.

Yeah, but don't you even think about going closer. Oh, no, no, not on the sideline. And play, if he's running, if he ain't sliding, then they're running. Some of these quarterbacks, not even sliding. They shake and making moves. They're trying to get yards.

So, you know, we'll see what we get. That's probably why we have three or four of them aren't playing this week. Yeah, fine. Some of these quarterbacks ain't sliding, man. They're just going in there. So we'll see. Hey, get that ball, man. Get that table, man.

And it took enough money out of your checks. Suspended him, don't. So, yeah, they got him on the list. Hey, man, that's a good stats to have, too, whenever you put that two minutes and 40 seconds up there. Then also, yeah, I got this many picks. I think I'm going to be a charger for life. Yeah, that's what we got going on.

That's awesome. You're the man. We appreciate you joining us. I appreciate y'all, man. Y'all keep killing it, man. We're going to try. Not as much as you, obviously. Good luck against Broncos.

Great win last night, ladies of gentlemen, Derwin, Jay. Yeah, Derwin. What a win for them. Oh, yeah. Three divisional games. Oh, the gate. Yeah, they start scheduling that. They did a lot of division,

rivalry games are week one, and I think it's because a lacklester start last year. Remember last year kind of slow out of the gates? Very. So they, I think they wanted the schedule maker, wanted to have bigger games. How do you feel about that as a coach with as important of the games are that early? Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it, especially three in a row. Yeah. You know, I mean, now if you get to three wins, like they got a chance right now that you own in the division, as long as you don't get killed with injuries. But if you can get three up in your division, that's hard over. Huge. Yeah, especially because that's not happening normally till like week 14.

Yeah, exactly. And now you have that at the beginning of the season, get all the out of division games come and find your team, get even better than whenever they get back into it. Because they're always going to end with division games as well. Because they want to have big time football towards the end of the season,

which the NFL has gotten right. Every single end of season weeks there have always had very meaningful football games stacked up. So I'm not saying that the schedule makers get it wrong. But last year, there had to be a conversation about how slow they were out of the game. the gates and college football was actually last year carrying it yeah that was carrying football for

a while because there's so them having a division games right up front did it make it easier for coaches to get teams prepared do you think because it was more important games early or do you still think teams have no idea who they are at this point they're playing very meaningful football i think the ones that have veteran players know what it means the ones that are playing with younger players have no clue that the division's how we get that a dance this is how he get to the dance baby you got to win these and you got people always say uh football doesn't start no member September games come back and bite you in the ass. If you start losing it in September, that's a hard road to overcome.

And yeah, I mean, it means so much more in training camp. And I think if they continue it, you're going to see more guys playing in the preseason. Okay. That's kind of like what Lombardi said. You know, Michael Lombardi, when he was coming on last year every week or the year before, he always said, like, hey, you can have a lull. And the teams that go to the Super Bowl, like they might look bad a couple weeks. But if you look at it after every season, they start really,

well and they end really well. And then in the middle there might be like two or three games where there's a lull or someone misses a game or something, but like those first six weeks in the last six weeks are the most important time, but like when you won the Super Bowl in Tampa, like you guys didn't get going until week 11 well later against the Falcons. Yeah.

And we're down 17, nothing a half. Yeah. And you know, that big second half was huge for us and that just continued on. But that was such a crazy year because we had no OTAs, no training camp. Tom was there for the first time and learning our way as we went

week to week, you know, and but in the past, it's sort of like break it down into four segments. Try to go 3-1, 3-1, 3-1, 3-1. If you win 12, you're going to have a home split advantage. And just break it down that way, keep it in those four quarters. And injuries happen and other things

happen, and you've got to readjust and adjust because you always adjusting in the national football league. Always. You've got to stay healthy, though. Health is the number one thing. You're going to get hurt. And go ahead, Todd. Well, that's what I was just going to say, like, when you, fans aren't complaining because you get a divisional game early, and it's like, you know, it's sweet because you're more invested than maybe whatever. But, like, you know, if you're playing a division game week one, you play that opponent again week 15, it's like those are two different teams pretty much.

Oh, yeah, both of them. Yeah, I have changed show much. Exactly. The injury report coming out of week two here, a lot of quarterbacks. You talk about three, four quarterbacks. Joe Burrow, he's out three months. J.J. McCarthy, what is it, two to four weeks? Yep. Jaden, Daniels, sprained knee.

I don't think we've got a full... They said he might not play Sunday. Okay. Brock Purdy, Mac Jones already played a game. And then Justin Fields' concussion, it's like, that's inevitable with the way we were watching that entire thing kind of happened. It goes back to BA points about how much running

the quarterbacks are doing. But that's one of Justin Fields' biggest upsides is he's the fastest guy on the field. Then obviously, Aaron Jones, Jalen, Johnson, Calvanoi, Highsmith, B.B. Terrell, and Baker Mayfield, we assume. We assume his left knee. shown in the final two minutes, the hit that he takes where he gets upended by C.J. G.J., that was

the third hit to his left knee that was pretty nasty. It started early. Here's the Neil Hunter against the starting center who's playing left tackle. Centers and tackles two very different body types and two very different positions. Kind of gets rolled up on his left knee there. Then there was this run happening in the fourth quarter where he goes and he kind of an awkward landing, boom, gets up. That's that left knee again. Ah, ah, ah, C.J. G. talking his shit right there which cj gj will do i mean that is cj gj football i believe bruce arians and he have gotten into it a few different times a few times yeah yeah exactly it's part of the beauty of cj g j and then once again here's baker mayfield later in that fourth quarter boom takes another

huge shot to the left leg and his leg was planted that's cj j j j as well we assume that left knee is going to be the size of a basketball yeah we assume that thing is going to be gigantic well we would also like to assume there's a chance he's not practicing tomorrow and there's a chance he's not practicing on Thursday but we assume baker mayfield will be playing in the game oh there's no doubt there's no doubt he'll be out there and uh morale dropping far who heads up their rehabilitation she is outstanding one of the best there is she'll have him ready he's gonna be like edmonics yeah yeah he's gonna get that thing drain that's right i'm assuming his knee is gonna be oh yeah just I don't know how he finished yeah how bad was it for you when you were

Well, I'm just, I don't get any of these shots. Like the hype, like twist, obviously, that's just like a little irritation there. Okay, that's just a little irritation. That'll spur some inflation, okay? The irritation in itself will do that. Then him, this is a bruise, boom, into the ground. Okay, right underneath the turf cement, go ahead. Right there with that one, this is a perfect example of kind of how injuries work in the flow of a game.

Something could be hurting, but that adrenaline and when you, like, when he literally was probably would have laid there for another 15, 30 seconds. if C.J., G.J. didn't come over and start talking shit. He immediately popped up like, oh, no, I'm not a layer like a lame duck while he's standing over me because he knows that defense and number eight specifically feeds off that type of energy. So as a competitor, that's what gets you going. Now, he's probably still in bed right now. Tomorrow it'll feel even worse.

But when it's game time, like when he runs out of the tunnel again, I expect six to be out there and take the field. But a lot of us deal with those things, but when that adrenaline is flowing and it's pumping, almost like anything else. Kind of like fight or flight. When it's going, you've got to lead your team. The teams are feeding off you as well.

So, yeah, I think that was the perfect illustration of kind of what happens for the athlete when they're in the middle of it. That's kind of Baker Mayfield's M.O. right there, right? Just tough, gunslinger. Yes. Comes down two-minute drill. Here I am.

Like, that is everything Baker Mayfield was Harolded as coming out of Oklahoma. Okay. Remember, we remember at Oklahoma, the coin toss with Kansas, I think. Yep. The whole, the everything. The everything.

The doggy. The dog. Yes. Everything. The. Uh-huh. Everything. Sure.

Was like, this guy's gunslinger. Yeah. Outlaw. Okay, that is what Baker Mayfield. And tough guy. Go ahead. That last one, when he gets flipped, he comes up,

immediately he calls him a play. He knows he's in two minutes. He bounces up. He's giving the signals for the next play. He's not even thinking about that knee. You know, and he comes right out, boom. Takes him right down the field and score. But that's what I love about the kid.

You are huge, Baker, I'm a huge fan, brother. Yeah. like this morning, he's texting during game last night about Baker, then this morning the things he was saying about Baker. Tampa, the perfect place for him as well? Oh, he owns the town right now. And that, you know, when people talk about reviving a career, he got an opportunity, he has taken advantage of it, and he is the franchise. Mr. Glazier's already said he is the face of the franchise, we'll be it for a long time. Tampa loves him because he's that type of guy.

He's wearing it as a badge of honor. Go ahead. And that's what separates. him from all the other guys like the other guys we talk about Gino being that guy as the first to kind of you know have a beginning of a career that maybe didn't play as much and then you know revive it like he got ran out of Seattle so he revived his career but he was never picked

he was offered a contract he was okay but he was never hailed as the franchise guy I know the owner never came out and said he's the face of the franchise like they did for Baker and then like you think about Mac Jones you think about Danny Dimes you think about every court Donald every quarterback now forever like if they do have a tough start to their career they're in their mind

they're just thinking Baker Mayfield like that is going to be the face of hey sure I had a bad start and I got ran out of town but at the same time I might have a couple years here and then be the face of a franchise again he was on scouting punt block in Carolina

the Carolina Panthers yeah with Frank Wright the Carolina Panthers who to be candid stunk at football that year They got Baker Mayfield rushing the punt. Now, obviously, he goes to L.A. He has those multiple weeks with Sean McVeigh.

And I assume whenever Baker Mayfield is finished and he looks back, he'll say like those days in Carolina was on the scout team and he was just on the sideline headbutting guys with helmets on. He didn't have helmets on. He'll probably talk about the amount of opportunity he had to grow as teammate and leader and everything like that. It all makes sense. But looking back on it, crazy.

Insate. That they kicked him out of Cleveland with everything the Cleveland's gone through. Went eight and nine. kick him out of Carolina with everything that's going on and then obviously L.A. and Sean McVeigh giving him an opportunity. It's like what a perfect ending for him

to be in Tampa Bay with that team, especially with Mike Evans and all the weapons that they have. Yeah, everybody they have going on. But boy, you started looking back on some of those things and it's like, was it the right move to maybe give up on Baker and kick Baker out of here?

Ran out of Cleveland, ran out of Carolina. Those organizations, you know, historically got it figured out. But we've been. He cursed forever. You can make that argument. Both those.

Both those teams are curse right. But we always paid attention to all the other shit. And, you know, some of it was a little extra, or you'll call it whatever. But, like, for me, at least, especially with the quarterback, because we've seen other situations, quarterback gets bench, hey, I don't want to be any more. Trade me, get me to a new place. I'm not doing a scout team. I'm not doing a scout team for the offense, doing the punt rush stuff.

We pay attention to all that. Even going back to college for like Jalen Hertz when he was bench for tour. Everybody paid attention to that in the evaluation. And then when they get another opportunity, all those character things, they continue to show themselves. But I want to ask BA, Jalen Hertz, Justin Herbert, now Baker-Mayfield. We talk about him being a head coachmaker. How tough is that on him, you know, continue to learn?

I'm sure he does some of the same things, but continue to learn a different offense year and a year out. And at what point this season will he get comfortable in this office, do you think? Well, I think this year is real easy because Josh was there. He did all their red zone. He did all their third down last year. They were number one in the league. So that was an easy transition this year. It's the same stuff, same terminology.

Now, going from Dave Canales to Liam Cohen was different. And two different systems. But that just shows how tough he is and how smart he is and how much he invests in it. And that's one of the things I love it by me, because it's not easy to follow Tom Brady. Yeah. All right?

Tom Brady wins the Super Bowl, and here you come and you take over a city. Now, granted, this might be the best team he's ever been on. But don't forget, now, he was rookie of the year in Cleveland. Yeah. He beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh in a playoff game. All right, so he would, he was no bust, bro. Number one, we're not, though.

Yeah, that's, yeah, classic Cleveland. Yeah, classic Cleveland. He's got a coach there, and as somebody that grew up in Pittsburgh and just watched them kind of do their thing, and we all are pulling for the Cleveland Browns. Good luck. I'm not, Cleveland. No, no, no.

Tony, Tony needs you here. We're not all pulling for the Brown. Let's head the Hammer. Die, Todd. AP, Tone will say, it doesn't matter if you pull for him. We're still the Browns. Is that what you're going to say, Tom's. Browns is always the Browns.

It's like the Chiefs is always the Chiefs. That's exactly. Hey, last night, money, what happened with the money last night? What happened with sports books for week two? Anything we should be paying attention to is the market settled itself or as sports books still beating the hell out of everybody right now? So week two as a whole, the totals market, the over-under market kind of reset itself. Obviously, week one, it was 12 and 4 to the unders this week. The overs, obviously, we talked about the second highest scoring 10 games on a Sunday.

The overs kind of water-fond its level in the over-under total market. there. But as a whole, it was a little bit better of a week. I think two and three, the public went against the spread in the top five games. Obviously, the weeks before that, it was either 1 and 4 or 0 in 5 in college football and NFL. So the better's got a little bit better, but the sports books are still winning. Okay, sports book's always going to win, we assume. Chargers are a good team to beat sports books with what stats are saying. 14-5 and 1 against the spread since last year. Shout out. We appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys doing that.

Keep going. Making people happy. Making people happy. Now, as soon as you stop doing that, oh yeah. Don't let you know. That's right. To hell with this.

Any other maybe gombling grates that we need to pay attention to? Any other wagons that have really done well that we maybe need to say, remember, Chargers, this is kind of their thing. They cover the spread, they win. Is there any other teams we should think about? This would probably be obvious, or maybe not.

The Eagles and Ravens. I don't have the exact stats off the top of my head, but I know that they have been quite a bit of a monster against the spread. Okay, in tone, we didn't get to talk college ball as much yesterday. What are some things that came out of the college football weekend that we need to be paying attention to? And shout out to college ball, kicking a lot of ass. And we'll have Coach Rod, Rich Rodriguez of the West Virginia Mountaineers on at 1.30 Eastern time to talk about the massive win in the backyard brawl. But what are some college football stories that we need to talk about or haven't talked about?

Yeah, actually I have five takeaways from this weekend that I wanted to talk about. There's a couple teams up at the top of there, Miami, Oregon, Utah, Vandy, Florida State, Oklahoma. I just love the cut of the jib of these teams. I'm not saying these are the best teams in the country, but like the vibes. These are all vibe teams right now. Miami has been unbelievable, obviously dominating Florida and a big win against Notre Dame. Oregon, anyone that is on the field with them, they are just absolutely pummeling. Gundy found that out when he tried talking shit a bit about Oregon and Dan Landing.

They just put it on them. Utah, obviously, with the new OC and Devin Dampier coming. They've just been like these teams, Vandy right here, they, sorry, excuse me, got a coach fired basically at Virginia Tech and then just put it on South Carolina last week. And then obviously from week one from now Florida State has just been putting on teams. These are teams like it doesn't matter who they're playing. They are just going to put it on them and they've looked incredible. And the last one there, Oklahoma, obviously, it was a big one this week against Auburn. Number two, we watched them week one against Ohio State.

And we're like, oh, it's okay. They played Ohio State. They're a great defense. But does Texas stink? Whoa. Tony, Tony. Now, they've won. You see Arch running in here against Utep, and they've won since Ohio State.

But it still hasn't looked pretty. You'll see a couple throws mix in here from Arch with the touchdowns where it's like things are just still off a little bit for this offense, which we wouldn't, we did not, nobody expected this coming into the season. Maybe, you know, we expected it not to be the quickest start, but not how it's

looked so far. Things have not looked great for Archer in that Texas offense. They are winning games. They are winning games. They're being tough. They're being a good on the internet for all arch. A lot of people are saying he's more Archie, not Payton, and the real one is... Archie is a first

overall pay. Archie. He got to rack Archie set the table down there. And so, well, Archie, I love him. But Archie ain't never won shit. Okay. And either of I. But I'm just saying when we're talking about it. He was on the Ains' brother.

He changed the entire franchise. Exactly. And maybe Arch ends up going to Cleveland and they go four and 12 for the next 10 years. And it's cool. And then the real prince who's promised Peyton's boy comes. And everyone doesn't hype him up. Marshall? They don't hype him up like Archie.

because it was a mistake. Like I saying, Arch has a lot of pressure with that last name. It's tough. And we're a part of the problem. Exactly. I'm part of the problem. I'm part of the problem because I honestly was like, Arch going to get dropped into this number one team in the country

and they're going to be even better than they were at the end of the year last year with the guy who was starting there for three years or whatever. You know, that was a lot. I was really excited about the Archman. Bet on Newin-Hisman. Let the boy have some time. Let's let the boy have some time. No time.

Okay, we know Sark's offense is going to be good, and I know, even though a lot of others seemingly have started to let doubt creep in and maybe even win the conversation, I know Arch is going to be a player. Now, there are some alarming little things we see. There's some throws, maybe in the first row on the stand. There's some little skip passes that we don't expect. There's a little pain in a face because the throw is so bad. There's a lot of those moments happening right now, and we're seeing all of it because it is Arch Manning. He's got a lot of deals, okay? we're bringing a lot of eyes, bringing a lot of attention. Let the boy figure it out. Dude, there ain't time, okay? No, that's why Archie said, hey, listen, he's going to be back there next year as well.

I mean, just you got to eat, you know, everyone's thinking, hey, he's good. Yeah, he knows what? Exactly. Let him go let the boy figure it out. Did Archie know? Give him. B.A., will you tell you, know what? Let the boy figure it.

Now, would I be saying that if I didn't have such close connection to the family? Absolutely not. But with that being said, watching it, it does feel as if this is going to be a situation that is going to have to take some time to figure out. Will they figure it out? Oh, definitely. Definitely. There's no time.

It's too good. Just like John Sennan said, the time is there. That is not his day. The time comes in the Red River. John Sina! We love you, Seda. What did you call him? John Sanna sucks.

Chris Berman called him John Senta last night. Fowler. I'm sorry, Chris Fowler called him John Senta last night. That's not This is Chris Berman artist You can't get those too Yeah well speaking of actually

We got some ideas for Berman as well Yeah he had a bar for Berman I got a bar for Bermann it's gonna work For as long as we need it Berm Yeah Is Fowler? Okay Give him a test or call He didn't tell like you

It's Vegas He needs an emergency What's that? He needs emergency You're talking about Vitamin C Yes We have had that

Shipped into the office in droves I'll have everybody know we've forced B.A. to take away. It's a fun time. I always take it, yeah. Yeah, it's just a little gummy. We've set it up in a position, though, here where it's, hey, grab your vitamin C gummy. Get your emergency, guys. Get your gummy. Have a couple of them. Maybe OD on vitamin C. Maybe have too many here so we can fight.

And we're going to find out if this works or not. That is what we're going to do this fall. Every fall, everybody, including us, get something. Especially when the weather changes. Everybody gets in. I don't even think my allergy is that crazy. Maybe they have grown as I've gotten older. but during fall during football season all of us always get something maybe Fowler is having that right now I'm not 100% sure

we all get it throughout the season we are going to OD on vitamin C this year have to and we're going to see we're going to see how good this vitamin is yeah we're going to find out there's been some moves made to a couple different foods that might help us going forward as well but we're excited for that what else should we be

chit-chat about let the boy develop speaking of vitamin C let's go to number three Notre Dame needs the same run that they had in 2024. If we go back about a year, they lost to Northern Illinois, who was just a MAC team, not a ranked MAC team.

I believe they're 27-point favorites against that MAC team. And they went on a run after everyone said, hey, you cannot make the playoffs after losing Northern Illinois. And they won every game by 40, and they made the playoffs, and they went to the national championship. Now they start 0-2. Very close games.

They only lost by three points and one point, but they are still 0-2. And everyone's saying they can't make the playoffs. But I think personally, if they win every single game by 40 points, just like last year, I think there's a chance they can make the playoffs. Last year, after Northern Illinois, the only ranked team that they played that was good was Louisville. That's it. This year they have USC.

They got to hope USC keeps winning and they beat USC. But if they go on a run, it's going to be hard to keep out a two-loss Notre Dame team that only lost by four total points to those two good teams. Okay, you're speaking to me because I said two-sabin, I actually bet a Ferrari or a Mercedes, which Sabin owns dealerships for both of those that Notre Dame was not going to make the playoff because I thought Texas A&M was going to beat them on Saturday. And I thought with the way their schedule looked,

even though USC, I think a lot of people are saying USC deserves to be ranked much higher. Like people are kind of disrespecting USC is what people in college ball think. They think Lincoln Rowley's offense all the way back. Like they think they are underappreciated right now. So I guess if USC, to your point, continues to go, and they have a good performance against them, and then that tough Stanford team last week of the year

they're salty TBD have no idea that's going to go I guess to your point if they beat everybody by 40 there will certainly be a conversation and they can yeah they certainly can tone we'll see and we're going to watch it every week yeah on prime time big opportunity this week with Purdue Purdue's a tough team that could be a big statement win for the Irish not only Purdue they also have an opportunity against Boston College keep them out don't let them in Pittsburgh's great football

team, too. Let's not forget that. They are. Pittsburgh's a great football team. Syracuse, Frans got the boys running sprints on game day after game. That's true. Okay. This is the worst schedule, or the easiest schedule in college football, right? Which is why they lose their two big ones at the beginning. I immediately thought, I don't know if they have enough traction to get back. No way. But then I forget Notre Dame's on national TV every week. And if they win by 40, it's going to be hard to keep them out at the end. So I text to Coach Sabin after Texas A&M gives that win. I go, I would like that Ferrari SUV that you were talking about.

Okay, I guess there's a Ferrari SUV. Oh, yeah. Because none of the cars he sells would survive in Indiana. No. None of them. No. Because we've got an SUV, all right? And I looked at it.

I don't think it's going to survive here. But since texting him one, I immediately thought, you owe me. Get one. Yeah. He said, hold on now. He thinks the same thing Tony's thinking. There's a chance at the end. Notre Dame does get favor because they're on national TV.

And if they kill everybody, there's a chance. That ruins it. I just think there's... What do you mean that ruins it if that happens? Because, like, that's bullshit. They're a different team now than they will be at the end of the year. They were favored in both those games, though, too. Like, there weren't dogs in those games.

They were favored against Miami and A&M. They were favored against Northern Illinois, too. Yeah, and I'm not... That was one. Now they're a boat. You're not keeping out a two-lost Notre Dame team that lost by four total points of Texas A&M. I agree.

I have come around to that thought. I just want to let you know. After Sabin says it and you say it, and then I look into it, and I think about my... myself watching them on primetime every single week. And if they were to win by 40, every single week, which they certainly can't. There will be a lot of people that are like, put them in. This team's not one of the top 12 teams?

What if one of those teams that they beat, that beat them is 8 and 3? That's not good. That's not good. I'm taking the 8 and 3 team over Notre Dame at 9 and 2. No, what they need, they won't take any of them at 8 and 3, especially ACC, Miami, SEC, Texas, maybe. A&M, maybe. Like if A&M is 9 and 2, and Notre Dame's 9 and 2, but Notre Dame beats.

But listen to what we're doing right now. We're talking about what the conversation's going to be around the time. Just put them all into playoffs. That's right. Give us 16 teams. Give us the Macchamp and three more. Let's give us 100 teams. Put 100 teams in there.

Never going to get it right. But if Notre Dame does dominate on national television every week, you're 100% right. What are the other two? Four doesn't matter. That team is done. And number five. more importantly, the Mountaineers are back, baby. I don't think Clemson deserved that.

Good luck to them. What was the team that said we never talked about him last week? They got a big time win. 44 Connors is the guy that said. Houston, they beat Colorado Friday night. Houston beats Colorado, and they said nobody even mentioned our game on the Pat Mac show earlier. I want to let Conners know, we apologize. You were awesome to watch. The Colorado

team's going to have to figure it out, but maybe Houston does have it. Figured out. I think they got money too behind them. Nothing to think about there. That quarterback's pretty legit too. Agreed. Yeah, Wegman. Yeah, Wegman. great story too around him. So we're pulling for everybody to have great years. But if you don't, we got to say it.

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Great college ball breakdown. We appreciate the five stories. that we need to know. Another story you need to know, Kyle quarterback, Song of Politelli, real deal. Big guy. He's going to get paid so much money this offseason. I apologize to the Calgaryism. Maybe Cal's able to keep up, though. Maybe. After an offseason of losing a lot of their guys to other schools,

it would suck if the Cow Bears just became a feeder system for other schools. But there's a chance that is what Cal currently is, because Songapolitelli, their quarterback, who is an 18-year-old out of Hawaii, who was originally committed to Oregon, I believe. Then he saw that he wasn't maybe going to have an opportunity to start as a freshman, whatever the case. Transfers in the NIO era before his freshman year even started. Okay?

First person ever do that. A lot of people probably wanted to judge him quickly. I would like to commend him on that decision after originally judging him because I thought to myself, this guy's transferred before even if it started this guy doesn't want any adversity. What is this guy's person? Well, I think what he and everybody around him knew is this guy

needs to be playing football. The boy needs to play. This guy needs to be playing football. And that is the right decision. This dude is phenomenal. He's tall. He's athletic. He's a lefty, obviously, which in 2025 isn't as big of a deal as maybe it was back in the day. But it is a beauty. He might have one of the most beautiful lefty strokes that there is out there. And his ball somehow, either it spins slower or faster, whatever it is.

It is beautiful going through the air, and he throws dimes. He can move, and he's seemingly, I mean, he's in Cal. So brain-wise, we're talking, it has to be a big deal. This guy might get the biggest of all time after this season. might get the biggest of all time after this season. You're talking about upside and potential. That's what college ball is right now. What he has earned for himself

and his family just here in the first few weeks. Unbelievable. It's going to be a big, big job for GM Ron Rivera, who I love to death, to keep him. I mean, they're going to have to come over a lot of cash. And we're not saying that's a good thing. We're just telling you that is the state that's the game. That's the game.

And he is special. Yeah. He is special, special a quarterback. And that's something to look for now going forward like if there's a freshman that transfers the first thought you you mentioned like this guy must be a bum there's a chance there's some 17 year olds out there right now looking at the team that they might be going to and they're like well i could maybe go to stanford or cow player play year one be the best player and then go to the you know big school for even more money see also having some cow connections or stanford connections not a bad thing yeah not a bet

Berkeley, I did not know what to expect going there, obviously. I think I had a natural thought of what we were walking into over there. Based on the state. Well, not just the state, just everything that's ever basically been said about the university of the campus, the city, you name it. It's all like, I thought not sports people. Not really like sportsy people. You know, I think there's in some places, and maybe I'm wrong in this, especially Berkeley prove that is there is like people that are not anti-sports people. I don't know what the fuck they do. I have no idea what they do with their time. But I thought that's what it was when I go there. That morning and game day is one of the most memorable life experiences that I have, just being

mind-blown by what the expectations were and then what it actually was. And I think it actually has helped me like almost not judge as quickly or like assume as quickly. They love ballout. And with that coach and the way they're able to do their thing, and Ron Rivera is the GM, It's like, I think they're going to get some special talent in there. Are they going to be able to retain them? It's the hard part. Quarterback last year, now at IU. Yep.

Wire receiver last year, now out at, where's the, where they're another big time transfer. He went down to, oh, my God. Oregon. Florida State, Oregon, maybe. Yeah, but their roster last year got plucked. Hot. Went to Oklahoma. Oh, T, T, O-T-O-G-O, he's out.

It's like that cow has become like a feeder. I'm not saying that's a good thing for cow fans, but I am saying cow is coming on the board, quickly, and this song of Politellie kid is legit. Their schedule is also pretty cake as well, if you want to talk about some schedules. So look out for Cal. Okay. Who else are some schedules that are pretty cake?

North Carolina has a cake schedule, Wake Forest. A lot of ACC teams have some cake schedules out there. What's happening? What are you saying? That conference sucks. Yeah, honestly, kind of great news for the Big 12. Well, West Virginia's head coach, Rich Rodriguez, will be joining us in about 20. in four minutes.

We understand what's happening in the Big 12 right now. Okay. Arizona State goes down in Mississippi State. They have problems with the cowbells. Feels like it's about to be

a two-headed monster in the Big 12th. Feels like 34-year-old or whatever the hell he is over there in Arizona State. Oh, he's a good one. He's a good one. Great.

He's restored, I think, faith in the entire community wants to empower the valley, light up the valley or something like that. He loves that area. They've really gone around. Toph lost to Mississippi State. Toth.

Tof lost to Mississippi. They took the goalposts out on them. There's one of those. Stark Vegas, baby. Yeah, exactly. Great time down there. That place loves ball, too. New light show down there, knew everything.

Yeah. In the stadium. You could tell. Herb Street, I think, said he thought that that was going to be a problem. New light show, knew everything. I don't know if this Arizona State team has any idea what they were walking into. And then, lo and behold, he was right. And that's why he was doing the whole, oh, Mississippi State won that one?

I didn't know. I didn't know that he was really excited about that. Oh, yeah, of course. As he should be, because he basically called it to a tee. He's also called a couple of guys' stats to a T going in. Feels like he's on his shit, but Arizona State and West Virginia seemed like, oh, collision course, about to run this entire police.

What about Utah? Yeah, look out for David here. Don't forget about Texas Tech. What about Iowa State? Texas Tech has a lot of money. Oh, yeah. Racco's so good. He's supposed to be a West Virginia Mountain here, Neil Brown.

Kansas, Jayland Daniels. Hill Brown just let that one out of the fucking backyard. Anthony Beck. His dad's in the WV Hall of Fame. Yeah. Get the kid of scholarship. Yeah, thank you. What are we doing?

You can play him, you know, rocks in the backpack on that one. He is holding a backpack for Texas right now. He's working hand in hand from what I've been told with Arch Manning. Neil Brown had a lot of good efforts. Oh, no. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from an attic in Ohio. Oh, my God. He's only in charge of his breakfast.

Oh, yeah, that's right. That's how he starts a day. Yeah, what's he serving him? Poop. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. I don't think he's serving him. but I assume there's people out there that would say poop actually pretty good breakfast because of the nutrients

and everything like that. There's a chance that some sports scientist is bitch and poop for breakfast. And that's where we're at now in this world. Joining us now is a guy who actually... Yeah, yeah, he's in an Attica in Ohio. He's a college football national champions, Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner,

potentially a poop eater. We don't know. Ladies of gentlemen, AJ Hawke. You know about the urine? You know about the urine? Have you ever taken down your own ball movement? No, first off, yeah, the urine thing has never happened,

never tasted my own urine, never tasted anybody's urine, and if somebody, if there's a nutritionist pushing poop for breakfast, you might want to check out somebody else because I don't think that's, I don't know if there's any nutrients in it that, that you eat your own. You don't know that. I don't think. Oh, you don't know what these super geniuses?

I guess you've got to test it. Somebody's got to test it for us and be maybe Conman can be the guy, eat poop for two straight months and see if you feel. It doesn't help. There's definitely an incident. Connor sounds like he's already found this guy, or I assume it would be a guy. I'll be sexist. It was a guy.

I assume on Instagram, if I had to guess, who's an influencer on being the healthiest you you could possibly be. There is a slew of them. And I am sure that one of them was like moose poop, actually. And did an entire thing, for sure. That is no questions asked. Sounds like you are not one of those guys. We take that back.

Once again, that's judging, just like I did with Berkeley. I should not have done as such. AJ, we're just talking about Cal being maybe a feeder system for schools like Ohio State or any of these other big, big check schools. Do you think the people of Cal hate that or is there just kind of an understanding that that's the modern world we're in right now? I mean, I'm sure you can hate it, but you also probably have to accept it at the same time until you are able to come up with the funds that it takes to keep these stud players around. I guess it's a good problem to have, hey, this guy is so good to his other, you know, he's looking at going and other teams may poach him and take him away from us.

But yeah, we have the good player. What do we got to do to keep him around? It's like a lot of coaches say, hey, I don't have to love the NIL situation and all of it going on, but this is where we are. I've got to find a way to navigate through it. He's going to Penn State next year. Oh, shit. Oh, probably.

Lock that in. Can you bet on that somewhere? Is there a predicting market? Need that. We could potentially put that on. I assume that is where he ends up at, if I had to guess. Miami. Maybe Miami, because Carson Beck, that would he be able to keep up cashwise with Penn State?

Yeah. Yeah, he's an oos. What about Alabama? I mean, I wonder. Maybe Kailen DeBore. Yeah. Maybe Florida. Maybe Texas.

Florida. They might be in a quarterback market. Excuse me? Just don't know. Well, he's leaving? Maybe he might want a fresh start. I mean, shit, if he wants to stay... West Virginia's not a bad place.

Arch Manning wants to transfer out of Texas. Get away from Neil. Come back to Rich Rod's hard edge. We would certainly take them. Everybody needs to stop giving up on Arch. Let DeBois develop. Let the boy develop. AJ, let's talk about last night.

What is your big takeaway from? The big win for the Buccaneers, Baker Mayfield, Absolute Dog. And then for Chargers, Raiders. What are your thoughts on? Maybe the new Kings of the AFC West. Yeah, first off, the Chargers. There's like, D-But hit it, hit it right on.

Like, if you're sitting there and you were the Raiders, you're Gino-Smith, good luck. There does not seem to be any, they didn't have any room to even breathe. Like, they were on them from the jump. These white shirts just swarming everywhere you look. You can tell, like, when defenses start to feel, when they start to play well together, like 11 dudes playing as one, they all know where their help is. They all know what proper leverage, and they just fly around and have fun. That's what it looks like when you watch this Chargers team.

They turn Gino over three times. I mean, you do that. You got a great chance of winning that game. I'm impressed with Herbert. I'm impressed with Coach Hardball how he speaks about his players as well. Obviously, we've heard him praise Hardball. Listen to him, praise Derwin James. I thought it was great when you said,

hey, I got all the ammo you need when it's time for a new contract because the head coach has said that all of this great things about you. I think it's cool to see. I think Harbaugh also knows, hey, my guys can handle it. There's some head coach that are almost scared to praise their own guys during the regular season, actually. Well, I think Harbaugh, if he didn't think that this was the right way to go about it, he wouldn't do it.

Like, I think Harbaugh probably thinks his Chargers team, maybe these guys been beat up pretty good publicly, you know, for the lack of living up the expectations. Maybe his strategy with this group is somebody needs to go to bat for these guys. Like Herbert mostly, like, hey, I want to build these guys up publicly so they know that I got their back. That might be Harbaugh's actual strategy going into there. Is that something to think about or is that just what Harbaugh is always like, you think?

No, I think there's a good strategy. And like you said, from where they came from San Diego to Stubhub and where they've been, hey we're damn good man we're damn good and believe it and throw it out there don't be afraid all right expectations are beautiful all right let's raise them

let's raise them let's make sure hey we're a goddamn Super Bowl team we got the golden goose a quarterback I took this job yeah Justin Herber oh my God I saw him did the football gods craft a human for me to coach yeah they did with Justin Herbert

Joe all and his dad yeah you too take your hat off Stand back. So tall. So tall. Joe, oh, the tallest guy of all,

toughest guy of all the time, friendliest guy of all time. Just like, he cuts promos for all of his players. And that 2.41 for Durwin James, let alone Quentin Johnson. They were saying, that guy can't catch.

Now he is one of the best weapons in all of sports. Herbert's fine in his group. Chargers are special. The AFC West going to be tough. I will say, I got Travis Kelsey's new hat. I'm not giving up on a Chiefs just yet. Okay.

I'm not good. The moxies got to be, the vibes got to be high as the American Eagle True Colors Collab arrives over there in the kingdom. They got to feel good about that. Hat's great. They got a three-quarters if I'll wear in December. I got a little flannel thing up on.

There's a lot of options in there. Catch the damn bow. Yeah, B.A. Maybe they got a little too much going on. Catch the damn ball. Yeah, but pretty cool. Oh, he got that now, bro. And a resume. The brothers are killing it. And they're in the middle

of a dynastic run right now, obviously. But, yeah, B.A.'s big take. I said, how do you feel about Travis Kelsey's new stuff? He was, he got to catch a damn ball. That is not a Travis Kelsey thing. No. That is not like Travis Kelsey at all. I think that's why.

That's been a touchdown forever. Okay, so let's get to one of our favorite segments. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for BS or no BS with BA. We will present statements of fact that have been made by people thus far in this football season. And, BA, it'll be your job to tell us if those statements are, BS or no BS. Sounds good? Sounds great.

Let's go to the first one. Baker Mayfield has won his way into the MVP conversation. Special night on primetime. Is that BS or no BS, BA? Oh, that's no BS. You know, the last two weeks, winning, winning ball games on the last play, willing your team to a win. All right. We're talking with, he's playing with five starters out. Early. Two top receivers, both tackles. I mean, it's, it's, what do you. he's doing is amazing. And he's got to be in the conversation right now. And my hat's off to Jason Light because obviously they got some depth losing Collagia Cancy on defense and still stopping them. That Bucks team is, I think, for real. We had some breaking news here during

the show. Colagia Clancy that you were talking about out for the season with a torn peck. That comes just after week two after a primetime game and obviously a big time dub. That sucks on the defensive side. But you talked about wide receivers, talked about your tackle. Tristan Worf's one of the best players in all the ball out still so this Tampa Bay team only going to get better seemingly has Baker ever been in the MVP conversation before has he been a guy that's been left out of it every year that I don't think everybody's getting since his rookie year you know and he was too young for it back then but he's got to be in it right now well this end up being the best uh you would you think trio of wide receivers um between evans godwin and abuca when

godwin gets back do you think that is well you got jaylin McMillan too yeah and McMillan they're both out is that best in league I think when you're talking about four, it might be the best four in the league. Igbuka, I mean, I put a tweet out last night. Is he going to win offense as a rookie of the year? He's scoring touchdowns all the time. He has three through two weeks. He's a rookie, and they're talking about him being like a vet on the field and off the field.

They love him down there. And then obviously everybody was like, excuse me, is Tyler Warren play football still? It's like, you're right. I have boots on the ground. I see eyes on Tyler Warren. But this guy might have 45 touchdowns this year. And that's going to be a number, especially with Mike Evans still being there. You talked about four wide at wide receiver, and then they still got a run game.

It's like he's going to get one-on-ones. He's going to get a lot of favorable matchups, and him and Baker on the same page already. Yeah, because you still, even though Mike Evans is late in his career, he's still a game worker. He is the guy you saw they had going to the highest paid corners in the league. Derek Stingley Jr. matched up on him. He did a pretty good job, but that's where you're going to put your number one attention with Mike Evans, and that's where Ibuka can definitely thrive and eat. AJ, you obviously have always been pro-Baker Mayfield, as we all.

all have basically on this program. It's great to see him doing this. I mean, Connor talks about it earlier. Every quarterback that has high expectations that doesn't work out their first place is going to hope to God that they have a career like Baker Mayfield. You're talking about the depths of hell, brother. We're talking about

scout team punt block in Carolina for a shit team. For an ass team, he was doing that, willing, and then kind of evolves, find his home, and then the owner comes out and says this guy's the face of our franchise forever, for the foreseeable future, basically. What a time for Baker, what a run, what a story, and what a football life?

Yeah, isn't it easy, I guess Baker's an easy guy to root for it? Is it because he's, like, relatable, because we see how fiery and how intense and how much he cares? I guess, at least for me personally, when you know that somebody truly cares this much, like he's pretty damn passionate, and you can tell on the field and his teammates love him, I guess that's why we all love. Like, it's not a redemption story. Like BA said, he won't rookie the year.

The guy wasn't a bust ever. But for some reason, you know, he had a rough patch, and Cleveland will do that to some people and he found his way back and here we go he's in Tampa I know and I just uh I don't know he's easy to root for because he's a fun guy when I can if you threw that guy at linebacker I think he'll make a few tackles or he'll break his neck trying he's a football guy yeah you know he told the story uh to us a couple years back whenever we're at the texas state fair uh before the cotton bowl red river robbery um he said uh that in high school he's playing in front of 45 000 people yeah like in high school texas football he's playing in front of 45 000 people the

The only reason why I know that he said that is because SportsCenter Next just posted that yesterday. I forgot he had said that. I listened to it. It's like, this guy loves ball. He's out of the movie, the Texas movies about loving ball. So whenever, you know, he has to go on that journey of being a pump block team and then back up third, fourth string, and then he gets kicked out of a town. It's like an obsession with ball kind of leads him through it all. And I think you can see that with the way he plays.

Guys not scared of contact, not scared to talk shit. everything that football is Baker Mayfield kind of loves and embodies what a football player what an absolute football playing stud we have here. The character you're thinking of is Mike Winchell. He's essentially Mike Winchell who is the Permia Panthers quarterback in Friday Night Lights

if he made it all the way to the NFL. But even in that stat like we're talking about all these guys, threw a touchdown to a guy named Ryan Miller. I do not know. I should have known. I should have done my research. Furman. Yeah, of course. Furman. Great school. Love Furman. They always have some noise in the March Madness. But even him just throwing it to anybody.

I assume it's pretty easy when you have Abuka and Mike Evans to have tunnel vision. Since he's come to Bucks, he's led to the NFL and touchdown passes. He's led to NFL and touchdown passes in the fourth quarter. He's the guy. He's the guy. I also think that maybe it's a little bit recency bias because of the last two weeks, but I think he's firmly entrenched himself in that camp of like there's always like the handful of quarterbacks where it's, oh, you left too much time.

for blank. And like now it feels like that's Baker. Like last night, just watching that game, it was like there's no there was no doubt in my mind. Baker's driving down the field. They're scoring a touchdown here and they're going to win. Fourth and 10. Yeah, exactly. You think, yeah, right. You think Baker? Yeah, right. Brakes the tackle. Yeah, go on. And then he gets blown

up. His knee, AJ, we talked about this in the first hour. Three shots to that left knee, including this one. Well, that's the first one. That's early in the game, first quarter. Then in the fourth quarter, two massive shots to that. knee, both one off the turf whenever he falls awkwardly, and then he gets upended, flipped

with a shot directly to the same, ah, ah, CJ, GJ's, he just got your ass kicked by the turf. What you, my, the whole, the whole thing, you know, Baker's up there and Adam, we take him back all the way to college, Baker's going to be fiery, and he knew going in, Baker knew CJGJ's on the other side, don't let him get you, don't let him get you. Well, not only he's to pick up the first down, but also, that's a shot right to the knee when they do the fallout. still playing it, kind of hyper-extended. That thing is going to be

this big, and none of us think at all that he's going to miss any time with that. No chance. It's like that's a badge of honor, and we hope he's okay. And if he does have to miss time, completely understandable. Which is another reason why we thought Cleveland was so perfect for him. Like, he's an Ohio guy. Everything you just said about

Baker is like Ohio guy when you think of an Ohio football person when we mentioned like Ohio folk. Like, he's just a hard working doll. What the hell happened? What the hell happened in Cleveland, honestly? You guys kicked them out. Cleveland happened. Guys, I grew up a Cincinnati guy.

You know that. The Browns, yeah. Bernie Cozor, I watched him play as a kid, but I was a Bengals guy. Shout out Bernie Cozar. Shout out to all the great Browns in the past. And shout to the Browns currently trying to make it work. But you had the guy to want a playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And then you run him out of time and keep everybody else.

The head coach wasn't on the sideline. He had COVID when Baker won. Get him out. He was out. Yeah. Get him out of here. All right. Let's go to the next.

statement of fact on BS or no BS with B.A. Yeah, speaking of another tough, gritty quarterback, some people are trying to write them off, and now I'm looking at the silver lining because J.J. McCarthy will be missing the next few weeks. Is it good for him for missing this a little bit of time? Is that BS or no BS, B.A? Oh, that's total BS.

Okay. He's too young. He needs practice reps. He threw 35 passes in the fourth quarter as a senior year in college, and he needs reps. now he is a dog we know that he showed that against the bears but he's also too much of a dog at times these young kids better learn how to slide quick all right can you put yourself in harm's way harm's coming baby a lot of quarterbacks running oh a lot of them got hurt this week you know

they probably played one linebacker in college of round four five they all run four five and that's a football league you ain't you ain't getting away you better get your ass on the ground how do you feel about him maybe getting a chance to watch though like at kevin o'connell off I don't know how much he was in the building last year. We assume he was there. We've got a year to watch. Okay. So, you're...

To me, you don't learn shit holding a clipboard. Mental reps! What are those? You better get your ass out there. Do it in practice. Peyton Manny never... Kelly Hocom never got a rep. One of the greatest statements ever, Tom Moore said.

What would you do if Peyton got hurt in your backup place? We'd be fucked and we don't practice fucked. It's a great loss of me. We're not living in our fears, all right? We're worried about right now. You need those reps, man. You've got to be out in the practice field getting reps. What about that guy right there, though?

What about Kevin O'Connell? Do you think it's his offense that JJ may be? Like, do you think it's going to take some time for them to be speaking the same language? And obviously, this time away from each other is cutting into that time? What do you think? No, they need to get their tackles back. They had no tackles playing in the game. And they couldn't run the football.

That was the difference between, I think, the bucks with no tackles. They ran for 150, 60 yards. Vikings couldn't run the damn ball, and it was all on now. the pass rights had him up. So you're saying time away from the game not good for J.J. McCarthy. Not good at all. What we need right now is rips, rips, rips, rips. We've got to be on the

practice film. All right, get healthy, JJ. Yeah, pulling for you. What do you think, Bruce, just because you have been doing it for so long, what do you think about the VR stuff? Because that's like what the... It's fantastic. Yeah. Because that's like what Jay did. We were on the first ones to start using it way, way back, when it first came out. And it's great for

your backup quarterback. You do all your blitz drills and you in a room this size, just drop back, see all the reeds, see all the blitzes. So it's great for your back. Carson Palmer fell in love with it. It really helped his career. So JJ might be able to do that. Yeah, it's like the rap.

Can also box in her, too. Yeah, that's true. Thrill of the fight in VR. Fucking beat saber. Yeah, you can play drums too. Yeah. You can also swim in the ocean in there. Oh, that's cool.

I would not right. I got sick. Yeah, I would want to do it. Oh, yeah, the roller coaster. Yeah, the roller coaster is bad. I got sick. What's that? Yeah.

How do you swim? Do you lay on your stomach and somehow? No, so it's a stationary thing. Kind of trying to water. But you got to do this number here to go get to places. It gets really dark in there. I got kind of scared, to be honest. Yeah.

The roller coaster, the roller coaster one, that one made me puke. There's a new one. It's like, I don't know if it's a new one, actually. It's new to me where you walk out to the edge of a building. Oh, yeah. And then you see how far you can get out there, you know? Yeah, there's like a plank. Yeah, it's a plank.

Yeah. And you're in your living room, bro. What's the goal, though, to jump and kill yourself? I'm in my living room, bro. No. In the game. The goal is to get to the edge. Get to the edge of the thing.

So you're like walking out this thing, and then literally you look down. It's in like, I'll say 720. It's not 4K. Okay. But it's good enough. It's cartoony, but it's good enough. Yeah, but it's not, it's nicer than cartooning. It is kind of realistic, but it's not 4K.

And you rely on that whenever you start getting really freaked out. Does it go, like if you actually fall off, are you free falling out that thing? Oh, yeah. There's a video of the guy doing this game and he jumps into the TV. Yeah, I don't doubt it. There's people that are hanging up trying to hang on. It's a top ass. Yeah, it's pretty real in there.

It's what we're saying. Good reps for JJ. And if you want to get a little cardio. And ping pong. Boom, boom. And ping pong, they've got ping pong figured out. It will mess up your actual. ping pong. Sure. But you can play

real, you can play good VR ping pong in there with 11, I believe, is the game and it's real, you play against people from all over the world. It is fantastic. Good exercise, good workout. AJ and I played against each other, but the real life ping pong game will suffer from it because you lose the touch of the real

paddle. So you've got to commit to one or another. I've become a full-time virtual reality ping pong player. I now suck in real life. I don't like it. Because in virtual reality, I'm very good. So I'm real cock at a walk. Then I come in a real life, everybody's like, come, wants to come play in real life. And I can't find the fucking table.

It's like, well, I need the, what do you want? I just been a guy from Germany. He was like 15 in the world, gay and virtual reality. But JJ's going to get better out there. In virtual reality, I think it's something just like the NIL transfer portal. We just need to understand this is now life. We need to get in there. Part of it.

J.J's in there. We can be in there too. Bruce, walk that plank. Let's see if you got it. Let's go to the next statement of fact, shall we? Yeah, B.A, a lot of people are saying that the, uh, the, the, uh, The chiefs are ass cheeks, unfortunately. They're dead.

We just talked about it. Hey, listen, the AFC West is now the Chargers Division. You know, they don't got anybody who's doing anything other than Patrick Mahomes. So I ask you, is that BS or no BS, B.A? I think that's total BS. This coaching staff's way too good, man. And, you know, they lost tough Super Bowl champs and the Chargers who, you know, they had to travel to Brazil and all that.

Those are excuses. But this coaching staff is too good. This team's too good. And Patrick Mahomes is too good. Now, if Patrick Mahomes continues to be the leading rusher, they've got a problem. That is the big problem, because he's going to get hurt sooner later. I mean, he just, now that he ran a DB over, people are going to take some shots on him, whether he slides or not. And they've got to get a running game going to help him out, but he's just taking way too many hits.

I mean, that's three guys hitting him from the Philadelphia Eagles defense that are very physical. Your big takeaway is they're not cheeks because they're still the Can City Chiefs. They got too many good people in that building, 2B cheeks. So maybe we're putting cart way ahead of horse in that particular column. But if he keeps taking these, these are just these all add up here. Now, these are just shots that just kind of add up and add up and add up. Second quarter. And I think he maybe doesn't trust everything in front of him at the exact moment, potentially.

So maybe he's getting a little bit more eager to run. And then he knows he's much more athletic than a lot of people give him credit for so he can make him play himself. But that's normally the mindset of a younger quarterback as opposed to a guy who's already being called the goat. How do you kind of stop that? What do you think they try to do to get him more in the pocket or maybe not as vulnerable to massive shots? I think they've got to find a running game first of all.

And then they've got to protect him better. They're tackles them. That played well for the last couple of years. And they've been searching for a tackle. And now this stuff is going to get him hurt and end his career. Nobody wants to see that. No one. No one.

And they're making, you talked about Travis Kelsey earlier. They're making mistakes that they very rarely. Yeah. Like I think the chiefs is still the chiefs. Now, did I pick the Philadelphia Eagles to beat the Chiefs? Yes, that's because I believe in the Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia Eagles are a very good football team. But I still believe in the Chiefs.

It sounds like you do as well. Yeah, I believe in Andy Reed and Spags and the whole crew and Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Yeah, what's crazy is just like that you didn't really expect this massive of a drop-off. Like when Tuni leaves, they still had Creed Humphreys in. They still have Trey Smith. And the fact that they can't run the ball with two of the better players at their position, right? Isn't that kind of weird?

Like, why is that happening? Josh Schimmons' Rookie Left Tackle, and he made a great play. Actually, he stopped to pick six against the Eagles, but, like, why are they struggling if they have, you know, two all pros in the middle of their own line? Yeah, it's in, you know, this scheme a little bit, Pichenko, get him going again because, you know, he's a fireball. When he gets going, it kind of sets the tone for them, and they haven't been able to get him going. All right, last one here, con man. Yeah, B.A. Steel curtain. more like soft pillows

the Steelers defense absolutely stinks we don't know if anybody actually said this other than Connor correct yeah this is my brainchild BA and was I maybe you know jazzing it up a little because the Steelers are going to New England this weekend maybe

but sue me what's going on in Pittsburgh though everyone kind of thought hey maybe the offense will start slow and then you know the defense will kind of carry them they'll be okay it's kind of been flipped why does the Steelers defense stink out of nowhere. Or thighs, hold on.

The question, remember. Oh, yeah, excuse me. Steel Curtin, though, more like soft pillows. The Steelers' defense absolutely stinks. Is that BS or no BS? That's no BS, brother. That's no BS. Wait a minute.

That was the hardest watch for me on Sunday to watch that defense. Knowing that Casey Hampton and Aaron Smith and James Harris and all the guys that have played in that defense for all the years, going back to Joe and all the rest of the guys. but Troy. Troy Clark. They get stoned by a fullback and knocked both linebackers down and the safety can't make a tackle.

Seattle just ran it down their throat. At home, that just doesn't happen. Yeah. I mean, it just happened. And it didn't happen once. That's third and 20. A little soft toss playing for a field goal when you run in for a touchdown.

That isn't a Steeler defense. What is it? What happened? How's it happened? Because that was 10 a.m. local time kickoff for the Seattle Seahawks. I don't think anybody gave the Seattle Seahawks any hope at all in this game. Aaron Rogers, home opener for his Pittsburgh Steelers era. Defense. How much money? Let's go to Hammer.

Don, Todd. How much money is on that defense? A lot of money, right? Number one in the NFL, I think it's like $150 million or some shit. Okay, so I've got $150 million on that defense in not only well earned, by the way, by the boys, for how great they've been. And the expectation of the standard is the standard. I mean, two guys getting knocked out.

And one, I think Jeff Saturday gave some pancakes out earlier because of this. But why is it? What is it? Is it just attention? Is it focused? Is it a scheme? What do you think it is? You know, I think some of it is scheme. Some of it is reading press clippings. you know, and they can't stop the run, then T.J. and Highsmith can't tee off. They're the finishers, all right?

But you've got to stop them first to be able to finish. And they're not stopping anybody in the running game right now. And Highsmith, too, now. Highsmith, I think, is out four to six weeks, right, right tone? So, like, yeah, they're banged up already. So Jack Sawyer gets thrown in there. He's, you know, first year. It's going to be, you know, kind of an interesting watch for the Pittsburgh defense going forward for the next.

They're going to see a fullback for a few weeks. I know that. I'm putting one in right now. See, old Bob plays 100 years old. Run it down the weak side linebacker's throat. Knock two linebackers down. And until they put that fire out, it's coming.

Everybody's just attacking right there. It's a copycat leg. So, next week you're going to see it too. I hit that with some leverage, man. Yeah, two guys there are the same. AJ coached him. Yeah, AJ, what the hell's going on with Pittsburgh Steelers defense, brother? And you see that moving late.

Look, right there, Cam Hayward's moving late. He's standing up. He's already screwed so they can knock him down, create a huge gap in that. Here we go. We're off to the race. His miss tackles. Yeah, what's 22 doing, Dee? Or six.

That's that open field, man. He's running back. They get paid a lot of money. They're drafted high, and this is why. They're not paid to get tackled with an open field by anybody. That would not be fun. It was like what AJ mentioned earlier with the charges defense. Like playing defense and tackle the only time we tackle the National Football League is on Sundays or on game day.

So tackling these guys, it's a team effort. It's trust. It's literally firing your gun. Hey, if I got outside of him. leverage I trust my got to be inside out because if I'm taking on this block and he talked about Hayward but Wilson if he boxed that outside in it looks like you know queen will come over and make that play it's all and then once that your guy isn't there on play eight on play 18 now you're hesitant now you don't necessarily trust him he doesn't necessarily trust you and he just kind

of piles on but with the guys in that building with the players in that building they play a lot of good football with the coaches in that building I do think they can fix it still What did your leader say? Your Supreme Leader say, Tone? It's only week two. Talking about Aaron Rogers, I believe. In the long run, this will be good. I don't know if he's Supreme Leader or Coach Tomlin would be considered that.

Both of them may be Supreme's leadership positions over there. Is that practice? Trust, confidence? Why is that? Why are people not? It's practice. It's meetings. It's walk through.

And then it shows up on Sunday, on Game Tate. But it only, you know, you know, you have that little inch of doubt and then it can kind of grow. But once you start making it, like that charges, defense, that team, like, you know, everybody regardless of, we don't know all the names. The guys outside of the business, they trust each other.

They trust, hey, Hart is going to be out there. Gilman, James, like all these guys are going to be in their position, their place so I can go and fire my gun because one-on-one, me and Walker in open field, it leans to him. Two-on-one, three-on-one, now it's in our favor. How about B.A. No BS, brother. I didn't expect that.

That was another segment of, is it BS or no BS with B.A? Hey, we almost got through at that time. No, it's on me. Hand up. No, but the first three times it was me, so don't you worry about it. Just, we always want to ask a question, but it's a statement. It has to be a statement because then the statement's either BS or no BS, but we always want to turn it into a question.

Then it's not. So we've ruined the segment the first few weeks. This week, smoothest we've had. Hell yeah. By far. No questions asked. B.A. did great. You know what else was great?

Watching West Virginia beat the hell of a pit. What a game. What a moment. What a time to be alive. Hard Edge is seemingly back in Morgantown, West Virginia. And we're all thankful for that, that are Mountaineer fans. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Mountaineer football team, Rich Raleigh, guys. Yeah.

Yeah. How are you doing, Coach? Well, you look good, Pat. You look great in that sweater. Good to see my friend, BA as well. We go way back to our days near Arizona. back in Lake of Coney, Georgia, you know, going over to Gabby's, having a, having a cocktail or two, playing a little golf. Yeah, it's great to see you.

You too, brother. Hold on now. So I know B.A. is a noted club thrower and club drowner, okay, if it has to happen. I couldn't even fathom you on a golf course. Are you a, what is the spirit or the mood in golf? Do you try to be good? Are you actually good at golf, or are you just out there having a good time with B.A.? No, I mean, well, I don't know what B.A.

He probably lies on his handicap like all the other coaches do. I mean, I was okay, you know, but I am a little, probably if there's a little money at stake, I'll get a little ultra-competitive. I've only broke two clubs, just two, and one of them was an accident. But I hadn't, you know, that's the worst part about, you know, taking a new job, Pat. Hell, I ain't got time to golf, which is ridiculous. I've got to make time to golf. So I'll find time if we get to a bowl game. and win some games. I'll find some time next summer for sure. Come on. Come on down in February,

bro. I'm not giving any strokes either. Okay. See, he's hustling too. He just shot his age twice already this off season. I mean, he's bawling right now on the course. He's balling. He is bawling for sure. Well, I appreciate you not golfing and focusing on turning around that program there. Watching along this weekend, the emotional journey that you were on throughout the entirety of it all, I assume was a lot. Afterwards, we saw some tears. We saw some real pride, some real fulfillment it felt like out of you? What was that for your team? And how did it feel in that locker room afterwards? Yeah, you know, Pat, I didn't, you know, it's obviously not scripted, but I was probably, I didn't realize until I have to watch some clips of it afterwards. I was a lot more emotional

than you think after 300 some games as a head coach, you know, it all kind of feel the same. But I was a little bit more emotional. And I think it was maybe, you know, it wasn't just because we won it. It was our rival and all that. And there were 60-some thousand people and the game so important and everything like that. I just think it was a combination of a lot of stuff. It was, you know, being gone for 17 years, you know, seeing what everybody put into this program, people like yourself, how important it was for us to play well and to represent West Virginia, the way we need to be represented. And so it was. I mean, every, they say every game counts as one. This one might be counting a little more than one. You know what? And the folks started tailgating last

Tuesday and hell they haven't left yet. So it's been a wonderful few days. You know, obviously we've turned a page now and I'm moving on to Kansas on the road this weekend. But for 24 hours it was a hell of a time. Yeah, I know you're just trying to get a first down against Kansas.

I know that's what you've got to think about. And I appreciate you acknowledging how big of a game that was because I think to everybody that was following along with your journey and our journey as mountaineers as a whole in our story and our team and everything that has happened. That game was huge. Also being on September 13th, 913, the whole, it was a massive weekend.

And especially for you reinstating who you are in what your team is. I think it was a big weekend, man. Legit. It should, you know, when we play them again in three years, we're going to be a whole lot better football team in three years than we are now. So this is the toughest time for us, you know, we've got 77 new players, only have one guy that started any football games. And so, you know, this was good for us to try to, you know, to get a win,

because we've got to wait three years until we play them when we know we're going to be pretty salty. But it was a physical game, too. If you noticed that, Pat, they had an inordinate amount of people there got hurt all the time. I saw that. I don't know. Some snaps, there was two or three guys that were getting hurt.

And I was, like, amazed at that. And then their training staff must be the best in the country because they all came back in the game. I saw that. It was phenomenal how fast that medical staff of theirs got them healthy again to get back on the field after all those injuries. And we will certainly take their information that they have to become a better medical staff

everywhere else, I think. If they have any secrets to take care of these guys so quickly, we would like them to share that for the good... I'm like, yeah. I'm like, they got the worst luck in America. There's a guy falling out on every snap. I mean, I've never seen nothing like that. So it was...

Hey, Hard Edge! That's the Hard Egg! He's back. You know, I can't keep up with it. That's good news. Something else. Yeah, oh, was it? Yeah, okay. Watching your team, you talk about it being super physical. You had like a super jumbo package when did this come to mind how long have you been doing this i don't think i've seen this uh in a while yeah we had we had like uh 3 000 pounds of beef going in we actually did something similar to

last couple years of jack state but then we had i got a couple one lineman that uh donovan has when he's two two cheeseburgers away from 400 and then another linebacker's a cheeseburger away from 350 i'm like hell let's just you know b a will tell you this football's a game with big people moving other big people against their will so i'm like well the more big people we can have in there, the better we have. So the formation is called heavy, of course, right? Heavy. I could call it just fat.

They actually just our fat package. But that may not be politically correct, but hell, who cares? But we called it heavy to be politically correct. And so we have nine guys, but I'm trying to get 10 guys. I might have one where if I could find one of those fat guys that could actually carry the ball, I'll have 10 guys in there. So that will be the fat package. And we'll hand it off and block with all fat people.

Well, that don't work. Yeah, and actually, Nico is not slim. He's 225 pounds, so he's on the borderline of a quarterback being like fat. So I say that in a kind way. Yes, we all know you. And your players all understand at this moment, too, what it is. Anybody's ever played for you understand exactly what you're saying. Does that fat spelled P-H-A-T?

Yeah, yeah, that's powerful. Yeah, yeah, powerful. Yeah, fat, super cool, too, to do something new out there, yeah. And if you get a 400-pounder with a ball in his hands, I'll tell you what, college football people will celebrate that. And I hope you're, you know, that heavy package through the holidays might become, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas, let alone Halloween. Holy shit.

Bees package. Yeah, and there's a lot that we can sell from that and T-shirts we can make. You can imagine the marketing things, like, you know, let's get fat, you know. Let's go mountaineers. Let's get fat. And then, you know, let's put it on. PHAT. Yeah, AJ has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, coach, winning a big overtime game against a rival like that.

I guess for some of the younger guys, like you said, so many new players, what does it do for you guys' confidence? I think, like, great teams have to find ways to win. You have to win many different ways. You can't just be front runners. You've got to learn what it's like to come from behind or win these close ones. But what can you guys take from that? Can they build a bunch of confidence winning like this?

I think so. that was obviously any time you win you're going to get a little bit of confidence and then when you lose you maybe lose a little bit of confidence but I tell everybody what we have to rely on is what we do every day you know what the way our practices goes I tell our guys we're we're little unique in how we practice and then we had good practices last week you couldn't tell the difference between last week's practice and in a week before's practice and I think that's got to be who we are every day we do what we do we go how we go and hopefully we can play well enough to win a game and keep playing and then

You know, a typical coach speak that, you know, I tell the guys, I told them before the game, this is going to be a game. Don't look up at the scoreboard. All right, just keep swinging, keep playing as hard as you can. Then after 60 minutes, you can look up. Well, shit, that was wrong. It takes more than 60 minutes. So I said it takes 60 minutes and overtime, then look up with a scoreboard and see what happens.

They truly, I think they really did that. They just kept playing hard until the final whistle. Tell me about Nico. He's obviously big, strong QB. He stuck around from last year, which I think we all appreciate. then also Scotty Fox gets some burn at the beginning of the second half there. I don't think he played the week before.

All those decisions, what goes into it and what are your thoughts on the quarterback room? Well, and that's the other part, Patty. It's like, you know, most people say, well, you take your quarterback out and put another guy, you're going to destroy his confidence. Well, yeah, maybe he destroyed my confidence too, you know, so I think there's times where our quarter,

but people don't realize in practice, this is the way we roll our quarterbacks, and we roll in them out. And I tell them, if you make a mistake or two, I'm not, we're not going to pull you out just because you make a mistake or two. Sometimes we're just going to try to make a change and make a spark or maybe it's a certain number of certain plays that this quarterback can do really well. And so Nico understood that.

You know, when he was taken out, it was to try to get a little spark with Scotty, but it was also because of a couple different plays we wanted to run. And I wanted Nico and all the other quarterbacks to stay engaged. Well, he did. He didn't go pout and like, gee whiz, you know. He stayed ready. He stayed engaged. And then when he was six minutes ago, whatever was in the game,

said, hey, Nico, you're in. and it's your time to go get it. He attacked it like the person he is, and it was a great lesson for all of us, for all of our players to see how engaged he stayed in, made a couple great throws like that seam throw right there and led us to victory. Yeah, you know, you've been very open seemingly

about liking the whole quarterback room. Anybody that knows you, though, with how competitive you are, you want somebody in that quarterback room to take that job. You would like somebody to become the guy in that room. I would assume, not 100% sure, but I would assume that is the case. Oh, yeah, you're 100% right. You know, somebody to kind of seize it and grab it.

And, you know, we had really seen that yet, but maybe in the last six minutes, Nico is taking that step, you know, which is really neat to see. But I want those other quarterbacks, you know, Pat, to be as competitive. Like, shoot, I'm not done competing with this thing. We got a lot of games, a lot of football left. It's still going to be wide open. So, but at least for one day, Nico took charge. At least for one quarter, Nico took charge.

And that's a positive sign. Yeah, it definitely is. Big time win, a big time moment. I think it was the most people that have been in the stadium in years and years and years. Obviously, the checkered was awesome. The environment looked electrifying. I wish I could have been there. Ollie Straw, your punter?

Did you see that catch you made? I knew it was a bad snap and he had made great catch. Then after I saw a picture of it, it was like that's got to be like a specialist like poster thing kind of deal going on. Yes, definitely. All football players, not just a specialist asshole, okay? That's two points right there. almost lose all he straw the lossy. Yeah, at least.

And he was, he changed the field, too. They had good returners, and his location on his punts was next level. So it was, yeah, it was really neat. And it was neat about the crowd. I tell her, but there were 60,000. That's what the stadium holds. I think it was actually about 65,000 there because they're like 4,000 in the end zone. But 10 years for now, there'll be 600,000 that say they were there.

Amen. That kind of atmosphere. On that note. B.A. has got a question for you. Yeah, Coach, do you think this is going to be the hardest week you have as a coach? I know going back when I was at Temple, we had a big win, and, you know, guys didn't come down to a Thursday. Well, that's too late. We just missed two days. And get your guys, I know you probably already have one good practice, and how's practice going the rest of the week?

Yeah, that's the perfect point, B.A. It's like, yes, we go, we have one day off this Monday's for them. So Sunday, we had to walk through, and I can tell they were still high off the game kind of deal. and excited, and we turned the page a little bit. But Tuesday and Wednesday, today's practice, tomorrow's practice is get after it. And so I may, I don't mind yelling anyway, but I, there's probably a feeling that I'll probably be, I'll be into today's practice in their grill a little bit if I need to. It doesn't bother me at all.

So today and tomorrow will be the true test. But you're right, this will be the challenge, and I didn't bother me at all. I can't wait for you to, the pat on your back, you can stab you. Yeah, the whole. Had him on the ass, sitting in hand, that kind of deal, yeah. Yeah, it's going to be one of those days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get pissed down my back, tell me it's raining and all that kind of stuff.

Yep, yep, yep, yep, headlines. Oh, oh, look who's good. Somebody's a good football player. Oh, Nico, oh, yeah, I cannot. I hope you're miced up today. Obviously, Raquel will control what gets out and what does not get out. I think she's doing a great job, by the way. You should tell her that.

And I saw Ms. Rita celebrating thereafter. I think that was probably a big win for her as well, if I had to guess, for the entire family there. The family was here. The family was here, it was nice, and I had some buddies of mine that came from Arizona, some buddies of mine from in town, and we smoked B.A., we smoked some good cigars until about midnight, and then we all realized, damn, we're hungry. I hadn't ate since 8 a.m., and like, what the hell's open?

And so there's an apple bees like a mile away at 12 o'clock, and thankfully, the chef was still there. So we kind of barged in there and ate some apple bees at 12 o'clock at night, had a grand time. I'll tell you what. If you have an Applebee's that has a chef Yeah, that is Yeah, a cook, maybe Yeah, a bartender to me. Yeah, bingo, brother.

Hey, we should be pit. We're having a good time out here. Hey, who sent me, somebody sent me a video from your cigar smoking session. I don't have the number saved. But it looked like it was a great time. You guys were literally, I got a video from it from a number I do not have saved.

I was so happy you were enjoying the moment, though. I want to let you know that. Yeah, you know, probably all's coaches, you try to move on to the next one, but like, shit, for four or five hours after that one, I wasn't thinking about anybody or anything other than my friends and what just happened. Yeah, let's go to Applebee's here.

It's good enough for MCDC. It's good enough for me. That's right. It's got a hammer. Todd, Todd. AP Town has a question for you, coach. Yeah, coach. Earlier we were talking with BA and how he kind of split up the season into quarters.

You guys just ended non-conference. You're about to get into your tough conference. schedule. So does your, does your thinking, does you're how you're coaching the kids, does that change at all? How do you break up the season now that you're into the conference schedule? Yeah, for us, it worked out just perfectly with our three non-conference games being in the first quarter. I said the first quarter is over. There was some good, some bad, a lot of stuff that we're learning, get better for them. Now we have our conference play on the road and we play a team that's really athletic. It's had an open date, two weeks to get ready,

you know, and a home opener for them in the conference. So it's going to be a big challenge. So maybe being on a road, I think somebody already said, we're like 14.1 underdogs or something like that. So, you know, when we go out there and got something to prove again this weekend. Oh, I think somebody said we're two touchdowners. I think somebody said, did somebody said that? Somebody said that, you know, the boys will know that we got no chance this week.

Yeah, got no chance, you know. I hope we can get a first down, you know. I hope that, you know, everybody comes out. the game healthy, that kind of deal. It would be a fun trip out there, a beautiful campus too. They've got a great big investment from their boosters. They have a huge investment. You can tell, what, $300 million donation

or something, and they're putting it back in their athletic program, so it's neat. Yeah, hopefully you guys will be able to compete out there. Ty actually has a question about that. Yeah, Coach, on that note, Pete Thammell put out a tweet, I think yesterday that basically said, hey, West Virginia has they've pledged that they're going to be in

the top funding tier of the big 12 like obviously as a coach that's a big part of it now is you know not only the recruiting but the fundraising was there a conversation there where it was just like hey listen we can we can say whatever we want but at the end of the day like if we can't compete money wise then guess what like we're not going to compete for big 12 championships and how good does this feel knowing that you have the pledge from the university that's like you know what we're going to take care of that aspect yeah you got to be as a coach you want everybody to be aligned in the same thing You know, it's your administration, your board, your coaches, your players, and everybody like that.

And we're running a business now. Let's be honest. And it's a business, and it's an expensive business. And if you want to compete at the highest level, you've got to make an investment financially. And that's why I feel good about our administration. I feel good about our board is they know that that's what's got to happen. And you're seeing what's happening at Virginia Tech. And, you know, they're trying to do the same – they're trying to get everybody aligned the same way.

I'm just blessed that we're aligned here and that we got – great support and we got people like Pat and everybody else that loves this school that's going to help us compete in this new era that we're going to be in because we're running a business now and we've got to we've got to have the financial resources to compete at the highest level on that note this logo is beautiful goes great on a hat you can certainly buy any of these hats they are available everywhere and the fat package shirts p-h-h-a-t yeah that'll certainly be available as well, round of holidays, maybe some Black Routy specials if you needed. You have had that mindset, though, and I think it's maybe because you're at Jack State

or whatever, like, hey, we got to drum up, we got to do this, we got to run this as a business. I think you've been very forward-thinking in this entire thing, and is that because you're from, had to go through a smaller school in this era and keep it all, or why do you think you are that way? I think just more than anything, Pat, every coach would say, what are I going to do to win? You know, what does it take to win? You used to be, well, you've got to recruit at a high level, which obviously you still. got to do you got to evaluate a high level now you better make sure you evaluate the right

ones if you're going to pay them a certain amount of money and you got to be able to have you know schemes that can help you win if if you're competitive enough like what's the rules what are the rules that we got to have to follow and then how do we take advantage of these rules to be as good as we can be what does it take to win what's it take to win it's the simple as that what does it take to win and and if you don't press that part as a coach you can just say well tell me this is all we got and just accept it, then you know, you're not going to be coaches that think they can outsmart people and win because they're going to be smarter than you are going to be the ones that aren't going to be doing it for long. You better know what the hell you're doing, but you also better have a whole lot of

help to get you there if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm excited to see what you grow out there at Hard Edge is back. Yeah. On that note, with the ever-changing everything, is a whole new world than it was maybe 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago. Go ahead, Debutt. Yeah, we're talking about much more of a business now than ever, but more important. We talked about it kind of with the Pittsburgh Steelers and that defense is the trust and kind of that team building. How do you kind of expedite or speed up that process with all these new players and now, like you said, entering into this conference play now? How do you do that in this era? Yeah, everybody says, well, nowadays, you can't coach the guys as hard as they can't as you want to because they're getting paid and they can transfer.

I'm like, you can coach them harder because they're getting paid. You know, I mean, they got more to lose now if they're not playing or if they're not, you know, making, maximizing their abilities. And so I tell our guys, sometimes you know, you've got to tell them why you're getting on their ass a little bit or and all that. We're in the past, you just tell them it and they'd follow you. But

our culture, I told our coaches, and it's still true because we know there's going to be some tough moments in this first year or so. I said, we cannot do, we cannot sacrifice our culture. We can't ever lie to have a guy be lazy and soft and not say something or a guy not do his best

and let it go because we're afraid to hurt his feelings or afraid of whatever financial ramification won't be, but he might be leaving, whatever. You've got to have the right process and the right culture, no matter who it is. And once they understand that and they're part of it, then they'll be the ones that help you make sure that's helped held every day. The new guys that right now they're all new. So everybody's got to learn it.

But eventually it'll be just a handful of new guys every year that have to learn the way we do stuff. Do you have anybody hosting any camaraderie building cookouts at the end of training camp? Any of those types of situations, you know, that maybe the entire city comes to. And, you know, the football team celebrates in a front yard with the entire campus at the end of training camp. Any of that type of stuff happening? No, hell, when our guys get an hour or two of free time, I realize they like to have their free time. I don't have a lot of long meetings. I don't have a lot of long talks or anything like that.

And it's like, you know, most of the guys I talk to us, hey, you got a couple hours free time. That's valuable. Do you go have your free time? Yeah, and maybe have a party, too. Let the boys enjoy it. Don't be setting any couches on fire, though. They're fine, and kids. Yeah.

All right. We're finding you. Yeah. Yeah, we don't like money being taken out of anybody's pockets. Certainly have a good time, but it's also protect the city. Okay, we appreciate the hell out of you, coach. We will continue digitally on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok live. We'll see you tomorrow.

Have a good one. Goodbye. You see that. You see that countdown to the bottom? Oh, good wave. Look at you. You fucking hit a wave. We're still live.

We're still live. We're still live. That is a good wave, though. That looked very, very natural there. Yeah, yeah. Presidential wave. Yeah, just trying to get a first down and nail the fucking wave on the way out of the entire thing. Coach, I was so happy watching the end of that game.

There are a lot of moments where I wasn't. And then Ohio, obviously, the week before, like what a good. gut punch to the entire thing. And I think AJ was trying to reference this as well. After you win and you prove that your style can win, players more naturally buy in, I think.

I think it's like our hard work paid off. Like, when you see success for all the shit that you're going through, you're more naturally to want to continue to do that, I think. So whenever a game like Ohio happens, and I think they've got a great team, Navarro gets hurt against Ohio State. That's a whole different story. If he doesn't

get hurt, I think they're a good team. But a game like that can be devastating to a build of a culture, I think, from outside looking in, especially with what it was, with Neil Brown versus what your culture is. I think it can create or generate a potential a lot of people going, I'm not doing all this shit. It's not working. After that pick game,

was there a sense of like justification or fulfillment maybe from the boys, from all the hardware? Because I know the shit is not easy compared to anything else that they've done in the past. I think so because just being in the locker room, you know, there's nothing like a winning locker room. You guys all know that, the winning locker. number of guys, the players that came up to me and was hugging me and saying,

Coach, I just absolutely love it here. I love what we're doing. You know what I mean? That was unprompted. They didn't have to say that. And I told her, guys, it's not totally ingrained in the program like it needs to be. I mean, it's getting there, and I got a great staff and everything like that. But it's still a process to get it to where the hard edge, if that's what you want to call it,

mentality is ingrained in our guys every day, every minute of every day, no matter, you know, the game or whatever it is. And that's the process that we got to go through that's going, one game's not going to change that, but one game sure in hell can make a difference. And I think that's what this game should be able to do for us. How about you hitting it out there, letting the boys know we got a little wiggle. We got a little wiggle under this West Virginia Southern Hick accent in here. We don't dance on TikTok, but in the winning locker room, we'll dance our ass off.

Cheers, beers, mountaineers, congrats. It was great to watch you, and I'm happy you're enjoying the moment. We're also understanding we've got to get a first down against a team that's two touchdown favorites against us. Touchdown. Yep. Two touchdowns. At Kansas. At Kansas.

Two touchdowns. We'll be ready. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the West Virginia Mountain Air football team, Rich Rodriguez. Hey, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. He's fucking hilarious.

Yeah, he's fucking hilarious. Love him. The fat thing. Yeah, that was incredible. And the reason why I enjoyed it so much is because hearing him say that about somebody in real time and practice is one of the most, I assume, scary things for said fat person, but also from everybody else, hilarious delivered. And like, the reason why I think sports coach is really,

is because being in shape is a massive piece of Rich Rodriguez's entire thing. Like, the reason why those guys were hurt so often is because West Virginia is running. Like, you've got to be in good shape to be a part of that offense. Like, that is just what it is. All offseason, I think they only did six hills at Law School Hill. We're doing, like, 12 of those back in the day. Big guys, D.N., like, we are conditioned, this team. I stopped playing soccer, okay?

Had way more offers to play soccer than I did for football. Only had a few for football after a kicking camp down in Florida after I win it. And I'm like, you know what? Got a strong leg. The thing I don't love about soccer is having to run seven miles. You know, I'm a little heavy, my knees. It's not my – I love kicking a ball, though. Like, I enjoy – boom, football.

This is – this is the fucking avenue. Then I get dropped into the West Virginia football strength and conditioning program two months – or a month out of high school before the season starts. And I'm running more than I've ever run in my entire – I mean, we are, people are puking around me, and I'm still in soccer shape. So I look good at all these things. But I remember thinking to myself, like, this is fucking way worse than soccer ever was. This is a fucking nightmare.

And that's like a part of what richest thing is. Hard Edge is like, we're going to be, we're going to be in better shape than you. We're going to be tougher than you. And we're just going to pound the shit out. Like, that is the mindset that he is trying to create. So whenever he calls a guy, fat ass, that is a, you are fucking the entire team. You are you right there. because we can't depend on you.

Now, I assume he's going to say it's because of the modern generation, we still got gas to just stay fat somehow. So him having to use, all right, you want to be fat? You think that we'll fucking put you in back? I want 10 fatsos out here. Just meat, moving meat is what he said.

I feel like whenever he thought of the idea, he had such an epiphany. Yeah. Yes. All these fatsos are now for good, not for bad. What he means, though, was heavy and can move. And he's not scared to do that.

He'll do that right down the entire field. That was my first time seeing him do that. And as soon as I saw it have success, I'm like, Rich will run that play 30 straight times from his own goal line all the way to your goal line if it works,

because that's like what he wants to do. What a coach. You know him obviously through a lot of different situations, and he was out of Arizona whenever you were coaching the Cardinals and obviously mentioned the lake out there in Georgia that a lot of you guys live on and it sounds like a great time.

But he, I think in the football world, but also a lot of respect for everything he's done. The spread offense that we ran back at West Virginia, I think he started all the way back at Glenville State, maybe, in the entirety. He invented tempo. Okay. People talk about tempo, they're all copying rich ride. I mean, that's the guy that said, we're not stopping.

Next plays up. Let's go, let's go, let's go. And all these young coaches, okay, this is the way to play football. And it kind of just took over college football. And he's always been successful. He's always been a great coach. He's a dog, too. Yeah.

Every day, he's a dog. 5.30 a.m., he's on the stepper in the middle of the weight room. So when you roll in there at 540 for your 6 a.m. workout, there's a guy already glistening in the back. He's got a towel over his shoulders, and it is at max difficulty, max speed, and you just see him back there. And it's like, that is the one that's leading the pack here. He was supposed to be a drill instructor. He was supposed to be, especially his way with words. He can piece swear words together better than anybody in history and I did wonder if the modern era

would be good for Rich Rott or not I thought maybe he wouldn't be able to coach and the way he talks is like maybe not all guys but like our guys you rally around that time of them definitely man these these kids love discipline they really do

the guys that are great yes and they just don't bullshit them don't bullshit them Rich is always going to say the truth it's going to hurt he's going to hug you later and it makes sure

you're okay, but if you're a fat ass, you ain't going to be one for long. Or you're not going to be a part of the program. One of the two. You're going to be a part of the four offense, four touchdowns that we score with your package. But literally you're in there just as a shield, a meat shield, literally for everybody else.

But he is... Hey, yo. I almost got $3,000 pounds. What's going on? A meat shield is crazy. In his head, when he drew that fucker up, it was a big circle. What is that?

That's our fat-ass offensive lineman. What's that? That's another one. What's that one fucker? Three what? 90? Cheeseburg away. Fucking put him right there.

Another one. What's that one rookie? Yep. Put him there. And then somebody was like, Coach, there's six more. I fucking know. We're putting them here. We're putting them fucking here.

We're putting them fucking here. And we're fucking stacking them here and here. And then what are you going to do with the ball? We're going to fucking run it. That's what we're going to do. And they did it. Yeah. They, this thing.

showed up on my television screen and I started dying laughing. I'm like of course, the tush push now is just, it's evolving. Take me out of the field. You. Yeah. Get another back room here. There's another safety here. Get me out of.

The beauty would be one of them past some bitch to be able to catch and he'll catch a touchdown pass if he blocks really well. And also if he got a guy, yeah, he'll give him a little treat. Hey, hey, you do this good. Yeah. On treat. You're just good. You'll do one of these. Video fridge. And then all of a sudden, we got one of these right at the back of the end zone because everybody's coming up.

But that's going to be a few weeks of just... Oh, yeah. Ponding. A lot of this right there. Kansas, he loves that they're two touchdown $100. That's not a lot. I'm just going to try. Yeah, they got $300 million.

He knew exactly. Yeah, I think they got $300 million donation. I think they got $3.5, a great coach out there. Yeah, they got it all figured out. It's our home opener. It's going to be a great environment. Yeah. A lot of a quarterback to stop, too.

Hell of a quarterback to stop. Six years jail in there. Is he, did he get hurt? No. I don't believe so. No, there's other jailing Danes. I hope not. J.D.

A lot of names. Especially, I'll tell you what, game day, beginning of the season. Boy, you're swimming. On Swat. Every once, I know the last name, and I think I know what the first name sounds like. And then I'm like, not going with it, going with last name. Not doing it. And it's like those decisions are happening every single sentence, you know, just as we go.

That is a lot of fun to learn about all the new storylines. it like game day literally get the rundown on Friday for what the show is going to be or whatever and then Friday night is just like what team am I learning about tonight or teams and then like watching all the movement that has taken place and all the things that have happened it's so much fun to learn all these storylines I think the NIO and the transfer portal is making the sport more electrifying you know and I think free agency obviously is something in the NFL that is highly Free agency frenzy is one of the biggest days of our offseason. It's a Monday.

It's at noon. We got counter programmed because maybe we couldn't handle it or something like that. But that's how big of a day it is in the world. In college, if they're able to get this free agency right, okay, and they have a window that is actually a part of it, now you're talking about college football having a similar to the NFL football of a year-round. You know, they can set up this calendar where college football can start becoming year-round, excitement as well. I think we're just at the beginning. I know college football has a lot of tradition, been around a long time. It is incredible. We are very lucky that we get a chance to be a

part of college football at all. I feel that way. We feel that way as a whole. With the amount of history, pageantry, tradition, it is different than any other sport in America. It is the greatest cult, sports cults in the world is college football ones. Hooligans and soccer, I get it. It's your entire town. I agree. You guys are very passionate and very entertaining. That's like what, 40,000 30,000, 40,000 max, something like that. The bigger stadiums, they're growing, but not up to 100,000, no.

We got 102,000 is what Tennessee was. It's the eighth largest in the world. It's the third largest in the SEC. So it's like the college fans are just like insane. So I don't want to say that we're just at the beginning of what could be for college football

because obviously there's deep history, a lot of it. But it's like in this modern world, I think what college football is going to be able, it's only going to, ratings up 21 percent week one probably another 20 percent week two it's like they can all this free agency has made teams good out of nowhere and has a lot of storylines kind of develop on it like song of politelli's free agency is going to be must follow anywhere he wants to go and it's like that he's not the only one there's going to be other guys in there college football has a chance here I think to be

I'm not saying it hasn't had chance but I'm just saying can really cement itself as the number two sport in the world like NFL soccer I know I'm You get it. Number two sport in America by far. It's like NFL football number one, college football number two, and then everything else. I think we're in a good time for ball. Yeah, I hope they made the right decision. Like, I feel like it's kind of right there, very plain and simple.

But you mentioned like the college football history. I just worry about the NCAA. Like there has never been a time where there's been like, oh, NCAA has done a good thing again. You know, that's- Yeah, but we're in New Air. New Air. We are with the same people. No, no people.

Charlie. Charlie Baker, yes, great. I got no faith, unfortunately. Yeah, but they might have no say. Yeah, well, hopefully they don't. They don't. They don't. Listen to being, this is the first time he spoke about this, 20 years as a college coach.

They have no say. NCAA is basically toast. I mean, it's going to be the Big Ten, big SEC, whatever the other two conferences, those commissioners are taking over football. Yeah, but one of those TV contracts up again, we just looked at this. Like, they might be toast, but it's still another eight years. Yeah, but, I mean, NCAA ain't telling shit to Sanky. And those guys, they're running, they're running college football now.

NCAA coming up to Sanky, we're going to need you to look into, what's the school? I'm going to need you to look into a lot of other shit. Shut the fuck up. How about that? I run. We got it's covered. Yeah, what do you guys run? Oh, the one that everybody hates.

We are the one that everybody, why don't you let us maybe look into this? Petiti, also with the Big Ten, incredibly, I think, good at his job, but also knows. that he has a lot of say in power. I believe Sankey and Petiti on the same side of a lot of things, a lot of issues. I think they understand that. Big 12 Commissioner, I think he... He's in it, too. Yeah, he's in it with Sankey and Petitia.

And the ACC Commissioner, there was one drive down North Carolina where they were almost the strongest conference in all football. That's right. And he knew that. He's still old on that. Still got Florida State and Miami in there, so... Agreed. Agreed.

Agreed. I don't think Clemson's dead, but they're close. They're dead, Bruce. that boy's dead I don't I think he can stay at Clemson for however long he wants and who knows what the future looks like post Cade Clubnick I think how many years is this last year for Cade Clubnick it's got to be

it's been there for 10 yeah I just hope it's Davos To be honest it's only his third year starting did he started as a true freshman is what I'm trying to remember so yeah I mean I guess he could DJ you took up for a DJ yeah yeah let's go one more year down here

yeah it'd just be sweet for a fresh start like I think it'd be like not you know hey, Dabo, you know, it's time to go run them out of town, but more so like splitting for both of them. Like, hey, this has been fun. I think maybe I should go back home to Alabama and coach the Todd and then see what happened.

Clemson still has everything in front of them. They're the reigning ACC champs. Okay, is what Dabo would say. Can we all relax real quick? And BAM ain't dead either. Yeah, Bama ain't dead either. Alabama looking good. We've seen it. We've seen Ryan Williams on that E.

Yeah. That was. I've seen Ryan Williams do a lot of stuff. Yeah, this, this, this, you see him do this right here? I've seen him do this, yeah. Does he have two guys, dead, Big Ten. Does he have the same? Did you see that? They were counting this as a part of the Big Ten SEC football battle.

Yeah, and it wasn't. I mean, like, did you see that, AJ? Yeah, I mean, technically it is. That's Big Ten SEC class. But he, but AJ knows, too, like when he was playing, like, when I was in school, too, like Wisconsin was awesome. Like they've sucked for five years. They were scary.

They were scary back in the day. Their offense was awesome. They were mean and they ran the ball. Okay, so I understand what you all are saying. And for that reason, what you're saying about Wisconsin being a perennial, you know, through it all. They were viewing this as SEC Big Ten. They put on the stats. They say this is if we're going to keep score here between the north and the south and football.

Wisconsin's representing the Big Ten. That's what they said. No, I get it. Let's keep track in December. Okay. Let's keep track when it matters. Not fucking week two, week three, you know. I mean, who gives it shit?

Well, they're saying the SEC. Oh, bad. Oklahoma gets a big win. I get it. Do we want to look back at what Ohio State did to Tennessee when it mattered most? They fucking embarrassed them. Like, you would not believe. And that was kind of our whole thing was, hey, this is cool.

This kind of shit. When it's hot outside, when it's negative temperatures and you've got to go up north and there's maybe snow on the ground and maybe the ground's frozen, is it the same thing? So that is an interesting conversation piece that's going to start around a college football playoff, and I will certainly be a part of it, where the conversation has always been the SEC teams far superior, okay? We got 300 plus thousand stadiums down here, places packed out, history of football down here. During COVID, you guys didn't want to play.

You remember Big Ten said we're not playing? Kevin Warren, president of the Chicago Bears, said us and the Ivy League aren't playing. Everybody should give us a round of a plus. Greg Sankey said, hold the applause for me then. We're playing football. So that's the difference between the SEC and Big Ten is how people in the SEC feel. Then he started looking at the five stars and where a lot of these recruits come from. The SEC for a long time, they said, if they were to play, what would the sportsbook say are the favorites strictly off the rosters?

What has now been entered into evidence is, well, maybe you can't have 11, five-star four-two runners on the field for Big Ten teams because it becomes four degrees outside. and football is a little bit different. So whenever you're judging rosters, does the 4-2, 4-3 across the board matter as much because the Big Ten team saying, are you able to run like that when it's frozen? And also, when we start hitting you in this freezing,

does it matter? Two different footballs. These are two different styles of football completely that have to be judged at the end of the day on who's better. That is a wild scene. Because if Ohio State has to go down to Tennessee, what happens?

Yeah, they might get stomped. Who knows? And I doubted. I think Ohio State is the one. Not that team. Yeah, exactly. They were the one team. Just look at the two quarterbacks.

Yeah. I mean, go on. Will Howard versus. Yeah, but at that time, Will Howard. The forgotten man. Yeah. Nico Yamaleava. Forgotten man.

He's looking to transfer again. But Ohio State is also one of those teams who could compete in the SEC. You know, like they're an SDC school. In the north, yeah, which is what everybody talks about. But it's that northern football. Who gets a home field? It makes a difference. It is a huge.

And we'll see a different world. It's a different sport. I think about playing in September and 72-degree weather compared to what we were at at Ohio State when they play Tennessee. There's some guys that the second they walk out on your team, they walk out of that tunnel for warm-ups, and they're already done. They already quit. Like, well, I hope somebody else makes a play because I'm sure as hell not making anything today.

Like, that's, that legit happens. Never playing those games. Go ahead. We almost never had, like, really, really, because, you know, season will be over. Once you go both seasons, like those are in warm weather. States and cities for the most part. So I play the Yukon, and I rarely played in, like, snow.

I don't think I ever played in a snow game or, like, below 20 degrees or anything like that. So, yeah, it changes everything. And then NIL as well, that kind of killed the SEC's, you know. Coach Saban talks about that, about how the territorial advantage that the SEC had with the amount of dudes coming out of different states. Pocket, South Carolina, Louisiana, Florida, obviously, in a big way. Georgia, Tyler Atkinson, we just met him. He's what, 6-4-225 as a high school,

or it's like these pockets of talent across the south that exist, obviously, and obviously the North has places as well, but they used to want to stay home. Want to stay home, want to stay around family, want to kind of represent. Now Penn State shows up and goes, home's cool, right?

We can build a new home, can't be? How much money they offer? We got two million more years. Is that what you want? We can get it. Yeah, sure, we'll build. Yeah, your family come up. house for them too. Now all of a sudden you're close to home. Now you've got a new home. It's

Happy Valley. Congratulations. We're paying. Oregon. You ever been west of Alabama? Nope. You have been west of the Mississippi? Nope. Come on out here. Fly all the way out. Come on out. This is Uncle Phil. He founded Nike. These are all the uniforms you're going to be wearing. This is the Nike deal you'll have whenever you become an NFL player. And oh, yeah, we can move your family out here. And this is the amount of money that we're willing to pay you if you would like to do that. I don't know what LSU is offering. I know, Brian Kelly's a great ball coach and everything like that. But we're just telling you, this is also an option.

It has even the playing field. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, it's changed it totally. Changed it totally. Yeah, I think I'm excited for the college football playoff chatter, especially if Notre Dame goes on a run. Yeah?

Can't do it. They went out? By 40 every game. They got USC, they got Pitt still, they got Stanford, Boston College. They went out by, and they win some of these big ones they're in. What big ones? USC? Man, USC.

The Joel Chaleli game. Pitch, it's a big game, right? They're very good. It is very good. USC loses two games, and that game's done. But they're not going to. People are saying USC not being treated with enough respect. I bet their schedule is much tougher than this, if we look at their side of it in the Big Ten.

AJ, to what you said there about them getting in, that is exactly what tone said as well. If they win all these games on primetime television, everybody sees it, it's going to be hard at the end of the year to be like, to win a fight, or there's going to be too many people fighting for the Irish Catholics, I would assume. Yes. But they need a lot of these teams

to win games. They've got to score 40 once before they're going to do it twice. That's what they got to do, though. That's what they got to do. Carry in order that. Tone, is that what you're saying? Tone was carrying it.

What are you saying? We're saying, no way they get in. You're saying it. Tone's saying they're in, huh? I mean, it's the exact same as last year. I don't know. They made it last year, right? Am I wrong? Who were the two last year they lost it? No, they only lost to Northern Illinois.

So yes, one loss versus two, but I think a loss to Miami and A&M is better than one lost to Northern Illinois. Depending upon how Miami and Texas A&M end up. Let's say Miami one loss are undefeated, which is definitely doable. And then A&M's got three. I like Texas A&M's team. I thought everybody was going to pick him over Notre Dame. I don't know if I told a story on the show or not.

I walk in the production room, give picks, and I'm like, Texas A&M over there, damn. Is everybody picking that? Like, nobody's picking that. All right. Okay, wait a minute. Nobody? This is, like, yeah, nobody.

I'm like, holy fuck. Georgia Tech Everglimson? Everybody's feeling this way? Nope. Oh, fuck. Obviously, Western Virginia, there's a couple people that, Couch Sabin's got to be pulling for West Virginia.

Nope, he's picking Pitt, too. What? Everybody's fucking picking. Holy shit. shit. Boy, it would have been nice if Tennessee wins that game. You know? Because they posted this and said, hey, he won't lone wolf

multiple times and actually got it right. And then the comments immediately were just who's that coming down the track. Oh, what do you say about the Tennessee Georgia game? Did he pick? Did he pick the bulldogs? Did he pick Georgia to beat Tennessee? No, he picked Tennessee. Fuck him. That's where everybody said. And they're

right. They're 100% right. We got to make that kick. Oh, boy. I felt so bad for that kid. Hypole, five-yard penalty. Seven seconds left. Just kick it at seven seconds. What are we doing? Hypole will learn, obviously, from that situation going forward.

But if you go out to run a play with seven seconds, I guess to get it down below five seconds, so it's definitely the last play of the game or whatever. Should you have a walk-off? I get it. But if a penalty happens, I think you've got to commit to the bit there. I think you're going to throw that fucker out of bounce. I think you've got to get the bad juju from the penalty

away from the field goal kicking operation right there personally. Yeah, just take the ball, throw it out of bounds, kill four seconds. Boom. Then get the kicker to come out. You don't throw it to anybody. Just throw it out of balance. Yeah, because it's not after a penalty. A penalty backing up is the worst thing that can happen for a kicker. Ball moving further away.

You got a harder shot. So I think you just need to separate that from, even if a nothing play. I think you just need to separate from the vibes. But nonetheless, make the kick and they win. Tennessee is still very good at football. That was a fun game. That was an electrifying game.

And that kicker bounced back in overtime. And hit the same kick. Proud of them for doing that. But that was a great game that I thought Tennessee was going to win. going to win, and inevitably, Kirby Smart still got the dogs down there in Georgia. Pretty crazy it happened to Sagapolitelli's team in Cal. They were playing the Gophers, Minnesota, and they were in, like, a dog fight. It was zero-zero or seven-nothing with like a minute left in Minnesota scores.

And Cal, trying to, you know, score right before the half, they go all the way down. There's seven seconds on the clock, and they just run a five-yard out, get, you know, a little extra room. And then they make a field goal, like, barely. by doing that and it's like that situation happened on I want to say it was Friday night not Saturday night but it might have been Saturday but just thinking of that

and then not happening on the biggest yeah in the biggest game you would think yeah but you remember all that's happening so quick so quick all that shit's happening so quick it is like very much in the moment you don't expect somebody to false start like hey there's seven seconds left bro let's not fucking what are we doing here

fucking Georgia Tech we didn't even talk about that they're fire drill one of the best them running out to beat Clemson. Oh, yes, perfect execution. Georgia Tech, by the way, I love what they are cooking out there. Yeah, 23 seconds at this time, third and four, fourth quarter. You got no timeouts.

No, you've got to run a NASCAR situation. Fire drills whenever there's a bad snap. NASCAR here. You're going to have full time to take steps probably. Yep, takes a little three steps back. It's going to be a big one here, brother, to beat Clemson in front of your crowd. 55 yards. Snap.

Hold. Give me that. What a kick. What a win. What a game for Georgia Tech. And I would like to let the world know or reiterate what I said on Saturday. Haynes King doing that interview with us while he was spinning it in the middle of his warm-ups, keeping his train of thought while also communicating with wide receivers on what routes to run and the person getting him the ball. This guy is a Sunday guy. Yeah.

That felt like a Sunday guy whenever I was. I was watching that, and I literally was picking Clemson, and then we did that interview, and immediately afterwards, I'm like, I'm betting on that guy right there to beat them. I like the cut of his jib. I like what Georgia Tech has become down there. Coach Keyes done a hell of a job. And, man, just go back to that Georgia game last year, what, six overtimes, whatever it was? Yeah.

That was almost to get the program changer. I think this game's the program changer for tech. I think him coming in on game day and having that interview made me much. This was awesome. I mean, he was just so casual. love when you guys do this one of my favorite parts of the entire show yeah but usually it's ass right you know usually yeah the tech was really good for this one yeah because usually there's a delay or usually people are a little bit too intense or locked in and you know it's kind of like going around

i'm not saying ass like it's a good conversation but it does feel like very forced it's very like it's not smooth the way he was just going through his drills it didn't feel like we're impeding on his pregame which sometimes it feels like when we're talking to people it's like oh He's still getting his work done, still getting warm. And also, how fucking confident is this guy? This is game day against Clemson. This is huge game for him, and he's just locked in. That close.

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It's called the Patriot Way. More so, the Tom Brady Bill Belich. check way. Now Tom Brady, former player, an owner of an NFL team. We as ex-players are all incredibly pumped for him. Hey, baby, Tommy. Tommy, the greatest of all time, also committed to becoming a color commentator for NFL games in a big time spot. Number one guy for NFL on Fox. We appreciate the goat, giving back to the sport and teaching us the way he views football. Hey, baby Tommy. Thank you. Now, those things kind of battle against each other when Tom Brady is an active NFL owner, not just a angel investor, not just a laissez-faire owner.

This dude is on the horn, a part of game planning, allegedly with Chip Kelly three to five times a week. And then when the interviews were happening for the coaches and everything, for this new era of the Las Vegas Raiders, he, Tom Brady was the one doing the interviews with Pete Carroll amongst others to kind of run that team. So in the last night, prime time, Las Vegas,

We see Tom Brady up in the coach's booth with a goddamn headset on in a suit. Whoa. The suit is a headset on sitting right next to an assistant on the offensive side. He can obviously drop in any time and tell Chip Kelly. Hey, I don't fucking like it. Why aren't we scoring any points? The Chargers defense is really good. Oh, are they?

Everybody's really good. It's the NFL. And if he wants to call a fucking play from up there, if he wants to drop it and say some things, he certainly can. This is what everybody assumes as soon as we see them in the coach's booth with the headset on. and we know that that booth with all those microphones

on the sides of everybody's head speaks directly to his sideline this guy's a part of game planning this guy's a part of play calling this guy's a part of hiring this guy's a part of strategizing this guy also was part of the New England Patriots that had how many gates happening

at certain times throughout their run of their dynasty a lot of them we ain't like this fucking guy in our building to let him do his color commentating bullshit it was a big deal last year this was a big conversation piece then it kind of just got

kind of got wiped out of rug and then kind of we move on you got paid 375 million to call games he's the greatest of all time we're going to let him call games let him do that now it has been reissued basically from the NFL just a reminder as everybody starts heating up the conversation tom bray's not a lot in these buildings remember we we allowed him in the production meetings via zoom or facetime but he's not allowed in the buildings he's not allowed to walk around him because the conversation immediately led to him sitting in that booth with headset on to all these coaches around the league not wanting this guy to know anything about their team what he's about to call the game he has to know about your team we don't give a fuck okay he's got the bears i guess coming up in a couple weeks guess who else got the bears in a couple weeks the team that he owns and the team that he strategizes for so ben johnson is obviously not somebody uh that's kind of lucy goosey i think he's pretty i assume he's not going to say shit to tom in his meetings how do you view this all going for tom brady and should we have expected him to be this hands-on whenever he was named an owner

of the Las Vegas Raiders. Oh, definitely. That's what Tommy does. I mean, he doesn't do anything half-ass. Tommy's full speed, doing it 100%. Now, when you're coming back to do a production meeting, that's a whole number story. No, hell no, you ain't getting into the building.

Okay, so he got... I love you, Tommy, but you ain't getting in the building. So he's gone out in the building, okay, I think the NFL said that. Once again, we haven't had him. He has... You're not seeing Friday practice. Okay, not seeing Friday practice.

You're not seeing what we like the most in Red Zone. You're not seeing who maybe we're trying to maybe hide a little bit and get in there. uh for future reps but you are in a production meeting in a zoom call what what comes from those and how will people treat those you think with tom if you were i think it'll be total bullshit okay everybody just be lying yep totally and uh he's not going to get any information for that people really pissed about this him in the coach's box i would assume i would think so i would think that that's that's changed the whole narrative uh of being allowed to come in not being allowed to come in. This changes everything.

Dee, but I think I even saw the internet being like, this guy shouldn't be just walking around. Last night, I think I saw that kind of happened in real time with Tom Brady. Did you as well? Yeah, I did. I saw it a lot. And I understand it. There is a huge conflict of interest. And we know, not even if he didn't with the Patriot stuff and all the gates that you mentioned, uh, yeah, you're definitely concerned with that.

Proven. If you're, if you're an opponent. But this for me, just like B.A. is expected. You didn't expect Tom Brady to half. do this ownership thing. If it is a guy that can do it, we always hear it as players, as coaches, hey, it's nobody, you know, bigger than the shield. There's nothing bigger than the NFL.

It's a guy, you know, one seven Super Bowls. He went to 10 of them. This would be the guy that can kind of get away with anything. He's, you know, been a part owner of the Raiders. There was another owner there who was a Maverick and kind of did things his way. Al Davis, we saw the Jerry Jones Docks. He did his things his own way.

Tom Brady, and my perfect, football story, he would be the next Maverick and just doing things completely outside of the box. Like, no one has ever done it before. And he's earned their right to do it. So we'll see how long he does both. If I see him giving up one, obviously it'll be, you know, leaving the booth and then just being more of a full-timer. Maybe he's on the sideline with a headset. Maybe he just steps in at halftime and takes over play calling. Who knows what it'll be, but I'm excited about this next chapter with Tom Brady. For the betterment of the game, him being the next outlaw and not just going along with everybody else says will certainly be the case.

I mean, that would make the game better. It's like whenever they were changing numbers and changing rules and changing everything, he was very outspoken about, uh-uh, this ain't how this goes. I love that he has that mentality. I like that the NFL has come out and said, we're not allowed him in buildings. He's not doing any of that. Pete Carroll came out, I guess. Andrew Ceciliano is reporting.

Tom Brady's not planning games with us. Is he planning games with Chip? Yeah. No, no. He didn't say that. He says not planning games with us, but we were told that that's what happening. and in the offseason before the combine and everything, everybody that was around the situation was saying

Tom Brady very hands-on involved in all of this. So conflicting reports, I guess, and I'll trust B. Carroll. Pete Carroll's, I like Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll's never lied. Maybe Tom Brady should be playing games with you, but if he's not, but if he is, which is what everybody thinks, I think it is a huge talking point about him getting access or knowledge or anything like that.

I think that's why it got so big last thing. Well, and Pete's saying, you know, Tom Brady's not game planning with us, well, Pete, you know, Tom Brady beat your ass. He beat Chip Kelly's ass. He beat... What I'm saying is he doesn't have to game plan with them. He can game plan on his own. He can... He definitely

doesn't need the help of those guys to create his own game plan for a team, but like... Breaking, breaking, breaking. You're saying before you go any further. Vinnie Bonseigneur. Okay. He says, Pete Carroll said the reports of Tom Brady meets three or so times per week with Raiders O.C. Chip Kelly to go over

film game plan is not accurate. Okay? So, We just got to say twice a week. Yeah, twice a week. Yeah, exactly. Like, no matter what the assumption is going to be, like, he's doing. Shregs broke this news. He did, yeah. So this is Shregg's news.

Wait, Shragge's both broke the original. Two or three, during the game, I think he. Correct. And then this is Vinny saying, no? That Pete Carroll just said. Pete Carroll's talking to reporters, I would assume either right now or last night. And Bonseigneur here, Paizant. He is currently reporting what is coming from the press.

And Pete Carroll's saying, who's that? Shanks? Craig said no. I'm the only Pete around here that knows anything. It is what Pete Carroll said about Shragge's report seemingly. Yeah, but that wouldn't be as weird if they didn't scrub the internet of all the tweets about Brady

being in the booth in the coaches office. I believe the NFL deleted a tweet with that involved in it and there are other things. So that makes it more seem like a spin. And him saying, yeah, they don't meet three times a week to what AJ said. The immediate thought was like, okay, well

they meet once a week. And we can't assume anything. The devil is into detail. Exactly, yeah. A lot of things, you know, a lot of things that maybe be a conspiracy fodder, if you will, just kind of putting my hat on for a second. Brady did hire Pete Carroll. He was a huge part of all of the hiring process for the team. Who's the GM? John Spy Tech. They played together in Michigan. Spy, spy tech. Great, great GM. It's going to be a hell of a gym. Yeah, does he have any assistance? Technology, perhaps?

Spy technology? Oh, is it right there in the name? It's always so obvious, isn't it? Isn't it? It's always too obvious. It's right there in front of us. And Ben Johnson, yeah, hey, he's going to, Ben Johnson's going to give Brady bullshit. Well, guess what?

Brady knows what's bullshit then. Hey, Chip, they're not going to do this, this and this, because this is what they told me they were going to do. So, yeah, maybe he will get nothing out of the team meetings. But boy, oh, boy, we don't know how the goat thinks. He might think completely different than everybody else. and he might be able to get information. BA, do BS or no BS?

Tom Brady can get a lot of info from a building if he's Keller a commentator. No, terrible. Can't get anything. No, but I'm saying in general. I don't think anybody gets anything. That's what I'm saying. In general, not just Tom Brady,

but color commentators. I mean, I did those things for how many years. I would tell the truth sometimes because I knew they thought I'd lie in, you know. And, hey, this is going to be the first play. No, bullshit. And then we ran it anyway. Okay, so that meeting is a, what happens in those meetings?

I've never been, I've sat in a couple for the games that I called, but I was always like third person. So they're trying to get info on what your strategy is or injuries or how? Mostly injuries, who's going to be on game day roster, who's inactive, you know, what do you think this week? And, of course, nobody tells them anything. It's a, to me it was a waste of time. I did it for a year.

I was like, I should be out on the golf course. How about walking around the building? Like there's Friday practices. That's totally different. Friday practice, you see everything. All the important shit. You know, red zone, two minute, all your gimmicks, your final drive. Some people, they'll go through their script on Friday.

Now, that's big. That's big. And seeing who's out on the field. Yep. What the hell are you doing playing that position? All right? Where the hell is Derwin James? I'm watching for that.

So, yeah, being at Friday practice, that's totally different than the production meeting. And the NFL is saying he's not allowed at Friday practices. He's only allowed on Zoom calls in a production meeting. Yeah, but the guys that he works with, Ken, so there's no way those guys tell him anything about what they saw. So now Tom Brady is being paid $375 million by Fox, and now he picks up also spies for him.

spy tech for the Las Vegas Raiders? No, no, the guy he calls the game with. What's his name? Kevin Burkhard? Yeah, Burkhardt. Does Burkhardt go to the practices on Friday? So would they not communicate about what he saw? I mean, I'm not saying this is going to happen. I'm just saying like, this is like the internet.

Tom Gimberl. Give him a list. Hey, Burkhart, check this out. Check out who's playing. Nickle in this situation. Who's doing that? And then, I mean, you can do that, but come on. How much how many reps are Badgett getting? Yeah. Are they still motion in love? Yeah, what is the thought of it? Does it seem like there's a little bit of a short leash on Caleb before we play? Is there, let's look around if it's an offensive offensive offensive line and

Caleb. Can you get the interaction between those two in between drills? Can you see how many people are letting trainers kind of squirt the water in their mouth? Yeah. You know, can you, can you show me all these things? Kevin Burkhard, I don't know if he would be able to see all the things that Tom would probably fact, and not no shot at Kevin Burkhard, and this isn't a shot at non-player journalists. No, yeah, yeah, no.

Or non-coaching journalists. None of those things. But I think what they fear, what he fears, is Tom, because of his fucking knowledge of the game and being there doing that, he could potentially see some shit. Oh, yeah. Like, and it could benefit the Raiders immediately.

He's what all football people who are paranoid motherfuckers to begin with. Go ahead, DeB. I mean, those production meetings and Friday practices, you know, coaches, and players, you're worried about that shit getting out, you know, within that 48 hours before the game. Once the game is played, you're seeing all those different things. So, like, those, that's the vital time, 48 hours. So once Sunday happens or Monday, whenever it is, and the game's

being played, like, you're going to see who's playing the nickel. You're going to see who's calling the players. You're going to see these different things. So if you're going into the game, if you're playing the Raiders that week and getting that information, that vital information that, you know, that you don't know that you're not going to see until game time, that's when it matters but outside of that you know it's not that not that big a deal i like that head headset on up here but i like that he spread in the game worldwide yeah that that was awesome what do you mean this is he's taking a fanatics flag football super fest right over there saudi arabia that's right taking it global here's tom brady yesterday alongside turkey a la ol shik and uh announcing

Riyadh season is officially welcoming football to Riyadh. Yesterday. I've always admired the power of flag football, the fastest growing sport in the world and how it connects fans of all ages. And I want to help continue the global movement and momentum

that our game is having. So I'm very excited to announce that I'm coming out of retirement and teaming up with his excellency, Turkey al-A-Lashikh, Fanatics, OBB Media, and my friends at Fox Sports to launch the Fanatics Flag Football Classic, which will bring American football to the Middle East on March 21st, 2026 at Kingdom Arena in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, as part of Riyadh season.

There you go. Talk. Take it football worldwide. Worldwide. I don't know if every word sounded natural coming out of his mouth or not, but I do know it's a huge, huge. announcement for football and also for a lot of guys to profit mightily from the sport of football and maybe this does take over the entire Middle East as our new favorite sport. With that being said the NFL has come out with a statement on this particular Super Fest. Fanatics made us aware of the event but this is not a league initiative. It's up to the individual clubs to provide clearance for their active players to participate. I think a lot of X players are going to be playing this, a lot of stars going to be playing this. I cannot wait to see how it all

comes together, and congrats to Tom getting his deal. He might be owner of a whole team soon, especially if we're doing, heading up a deal with Saudi Arabia. That's a lot of cash. Hey, they got a couple coaches. I assume the Superduper Professors. Yeah, there's doing it. Yeah, there's going to be a couple

coaches. Great golf out there, too. Yeah. Nope. You sure? Why not? I don't know. Pretty good. This is my job now. Okay. We love you here. We love you here. We'll see. This actually might be awesome. I mean, I'd much rather watch this than like the UFL and that's kind of

you know the same time period so we'll see it. I mean, Seguan's playing in it. They're coming into the Olympics and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be big. Huge. Sequin's playing. I saw Sequin is one of the names. I think Max Crosby was one of the names. Yeah, Macafree. Miles Garrett. Look at somebody's, I mean,

it's huge. It's huge. And I like the NFL has come out and said, the teams are allowed to say no, is what the NFL basically just. We would like to just let everybody know. The teams are allowed to say no. If they'd like to, that is our stance. But big names, big partners, big money. Yeah. Big for the game.

You know, I like that that is up. Soccer, golf, tennis, other sports, football now. Yeah, grow it. Getting a chance. Why not? Hell yeah. Good for the sport. A lot of money for those people.

Yeah, it's going to be real tough when they're playing, you know, Dubai week eight. But, hey, it's not me. You're talking with Saudi Arabia's team? Yeah, no. The fanatic flag football team. I'm assuming if this goes well, you know, 2030. the international game. I assume they sent one over there.

I will say Tom Brady and Grunkowski look good still. Oh, yeah. Every time I see him on camera together and throw a new, Tom's throwing a gronk. Had one down in New Orleans, I think, or across the street. Where was it? Yeah, it wasn't in New Orleans. That was like last week or whatever. They did one last week.

And then they did one to announce this flag football thing. A little bit of a lower catch, yeah. Rob Grunker. They're going to win. Whatever team they're on, I'm thinking is going to win. Who will they play? If they just start taking their players. And doing what? Flag football, Super Classics?

Yeah, just go over there and play flag football, pay four games for $55 million. We talked about this for the WMBA. Maybe a hundred. We talked about this for the WMBA with that three-on-three league. Yep. It was like, so they're going to make more money to do three-on-three than they're going to make it in the WMBA?

How long before the three-on-three thing becomes the thing? They're like, no, they're committed to building WMBA. They're making $50,000 a year here for how many games? and then over here they're making $250,000 is what you're saying for this money? Yeah, but that's just an off-season thing will combine it's like, okay, I'm happy to hear that.

I'm happy to hear that both are going to Money talks, bullshit, well. Exactly, and, you know, Saudi Arabia, obviously with golf, was able to get a lot of golfers, notable golfers, not everybody, though. Soccer, they've gotten some notable soccer players, not everybody,

though. I assume all their sports, it's a similar story. football this one feels like it is just going to be like event driven as opposed to full league stuff but what if the crown prince god bless him sees flag football and goes i like the sport what is this let's do this one all of a sudden tyreek hill you're you're not happy in miami boy do we got a league for you there's a hundred and fifty million dollars for one season and you're going to be untackable you're actually playing for the crown prince team yeah he's throwing you the football we're not going to talk about that

we're not going to talk about that that is not this is good for the growth of the game it's not going to take over the game no well no matter what this would I mean this would only happen in like April or May when they yeah but what we're saying is what happens if they did a season

what we're saying is what happens though for Crown Prince God bless him falls in love with the sport you know like you do with soccer like you did with golf and says you know what I like this one

this is fun because they're hearing it out. Oh, Tom Brady's going to... Yeah. They're rushing in that, don't they rush? They rush in that. That's the one thing. I said, when Tom said, I'm going to come out of retirement,

Miles Garrett's going to be chasing you? That's going to be easy catch. No, got to be on his team. Miles got to be on his team. You got to count steamboats or what? How do you rush? Mississippi? No, it's like...

If you watch the high school kids, it's like, bam, and they're after you. So the quarterback's always running around. And that's not Tommy anymore. What is the high school rules? How many? Mississippi. I think it's like seven yards back. I think if you're like seven yards back, I think if you're like

a flag football, my little kids played, if you're like seven yards back, you're like you can blitz from like a cone behind the line of script. What if it is they count in Saudi Arabians? What if it is one Saudi Arabia? Two Saudi Arabia. Three Saudi Arabia. Three Saudi Arabia. Oh, the ball's gone by then. I was going to say Tom probably three Saudi Arabia.

The Mississippi of Saudi Arabia is the Wadi al-Rama So they will count one Wadi-O-R-Mah. Two Wadi-O-R-Mah. Three Wadi-O-R-Mah. Yeah, so it's probably three Wadi-O-Ram. If I had to guess, before they're allowed to rush. Miles Garrett, he's got to say it, too. Got to get it right.

One, Wau-W-W-W-W-W-W-A-W-W-W. No? No, yeah, no speed. Because hit in Mad Max, we're going to be trying to do that. Absolutely. You're trying to mush it out there. No, no. Go back. Go back to the cone.

Max Crosby's definitely not wanting to go three Waldi-O-O-R-W-W-W-M. No, he's not doing it. No way. They're going to need to do that, though, for Tommy. Ball with the Lama? No way. That's not it. That doesn't count.

Exactly. No way. Did you fact check that, Tony? Yeah, how'd you get that? Did you say, what is the Mississippi of Saudi Arabia into? No, I googled what's the largest river in Saudi Arabia. Smart. Well, done.

Is that why it is Mississippi we count? Is because of the river? I was just trying to go apples to apples Yeah but is that the proper I always said one like Ohio River One Ohio two that's not enough Yeah but I don't think they're saying There you go

Yeah but they're not as big as Asinia and Manongahead I come together to form to Ohio Obviously three great rivers They come together at one point downtown Pittsburgh Pennsylvania we all love that But I don't think it's one Mississippi Because of the river is it's because of the name

Just because it's so cool sounding It's good question so I always assumed it was the river fucking old to the river so it was like one mississippi river two mississippi rivers three too long so they just got rid of the rivers one mississippi two mississippi three mississippi i mean brett farb might have created that he might have been his entire thing nobody talks about his contributions with state of mississippi like that well yeah he might have created mississippi down here we don't know we're not arm's and sure so wadi holohama what was it Guadi al-Rama. But I just looked it up. Apparently, they were looking for a four-syllable word that timed out to be about a second and one Mississippi was about that. So, look, I thought apples to apples that with rivers, just, just ran out. I would know. I still stand on it. And that's why we love you. Except for the river, I can't stand on that.

Jesus, good. It could. He could. Then he went out there and just, oh, yeah. In my Mississippi. The J.C. walk. Was he one leg in this thing? Or was he, oh, yeah, I forgot. Who was the Jack Easterby? Yeah, one fish, two fish. Red fish, blue fish. Walking on top of them. That's what I do, fish. I think he's still breaking down the game.

I'm going to text everyone once in a while. Jack Easterby. I feel blessed. Really? They're very long, in-depth. He's still breaking. Nose ball. He's breaking down a game.

Yeah. I don't even know what the number could start with. Yeah. Is it Houston? That's kind of my issue. I don't save phone numbers enough. So then if a text is coming through with a number I don't know, I'm going to say this now,

not enough people are going to hear it. I'm not reading it. Okay, I am so sorry. I just, I should, I know that I should, but boy, that one's probably not getting read, and I don't like it. But every once in a while, there will be like an incredibly detailed stat about football

is the first sentence. And it's a number I don't have. I cracked that thing open. And there's a lot of detail. And I get to the bottom. Hope you're great. Jack Easterby. Hell yeah. I'm like, hell yeah. God fucking bless you.

Thank you for all that. Try 832. Okay. It's a good text. I mean, he's got a lot of information in there. Wait until you guys hear this. He's his own stack guy. Is there a word that you remember from the text that you could search?

Maybe Jack Easter be, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, we found it. Bless you or something at the end. Oh, wow. Look at that. Yeah.

I don't. Yeah, don't, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't do that. Jeez, geez, geez, geez, that's on me. Yeah, but it's a, it's a, it's all stats. Oh, it's a scroller. Yeah. Holy fuck. Like, is Hembo, is getting from Hembo or what?

Yeah, with ideas, too. And like, hey, remember, these people did this. I'm like, holy shit. I think I'm supposed to pay for the information you sent to me, but thank you, Jack, God bless you. We love ball. God bless you, B.A. All right, let's get the fuck out of here.

B.A., do you want to do a giveaway or no? Sure. what do you want to do you want to putt you want to throw oh we're definitely putting the day okay here you go okay don't use that big old belly putter don't use that adam scott he's he can watch that job well done he's been out of these shoes pretty clean doc martin's there we go good choice okay okay take the glasses off so you can't see shit you can do that front one is if you want hold on hold on hold oh do you want to count this one or is this practice this counts love it okay you got you got a freebie move up a little yeah I think you should go

up to where the uh black dot is yeah black dot is yep I want what is you want to want to four 50 50 yeah two of four is two or four two or four we'll get 15 people 500 dollars who repost this post say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay them all you got to do b a is showcase that smooth buttery putter stroke very two out of these four and 15 people will be happier those shoes are spectacular oh yeah these what are they jimmy two oh funny who jimmy chew 15 people all you do is here too b a rose that one left range finder like a little like a little claw grip i like this little grip he does have a little claw grip forward lean oh he might have found

it. Boom. Can he split the uprights? You got the line. Both those potentially off the green.

Doesn't matter here, though. Ladies and gentlemen, the A. Great pay. Ladies and gentlemen, this is what you came for. Two-time club champion.

Boom. Pulled it. Oh, no. He looks good, though. That's a good stroke. You can tell he's never three-putt. We'll try it again next week.

We'll try it again next week. Good puts. Good spree. Great plots, great roles. Coach B.A., we appreciate the hell out of you. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah, Coach. Hey, be your friend. Diggs, why don't you come out here, buddy?

Great work in the back, boys. Great work in the back. Workplace. Yeah, great work today. All right, be your friend, tell your friends something nice if I change your life. We're in this thing together. Don't block Bia a little bit here atone, so he might give a speech. Yeah, B.A. anything you say here?

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