The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 141 - LaVar Arrington, I Almost Killed Tim Tebow One Time, & The SEC Is WILD

Episode Date: December 10, 2019

Today’s show is loaded with everything you need to know following a massive weekend in the NFL. First, Pat welcomes 3x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro, one of the most freakish athletes to ever walk the face... of the earth, friend of the show, LaVar Arrington. LaVar discusses his thoughts on Dwayne Haskins, if he sees progress in his game this year, and whether or not he thinks the Redskins will ever be a good football team. LaVar and Pat also chat about the Patriots and why he’s not ready to throw the towel in on them just yet, despite another mediocre performance this past week, and LaVar explains how he would attack defending Lamar Jackson (3:23-16:39). Pat and the boys also cover whether or not it’s time for the Patriots to panic, and why despite all the issues surrounding them, they’re still not a team people want to see in the playoffs. They discuss whether or not they think the Packers have a legitimate shot to make a deep playoff run, how tough the NFC looks this year, they take some time to gush about how incredible of a football player George Kittle is and why this 49ers team is humming right now, break down the AFC playoff picture and give some love to the scorching hot Tennessee Titans. Pat also reacts to the news that Adam Vinatieri will be having season ending knee surgery and how that has impacted his game this entire year. Plus, Digs calls in to chat about the Steelers’ big win over the weekend and why he thinks Duck Hodges is the best quarterback in the NFL and where he see’s the Steelers at as the playoffs are right around the corner. To close out the show, Pat chats about his first experience at an SEC game, and why it just matters more down there. He also gives his thoughts on the CFP finalists, why he thinks Joe Burrow is so good and why he’ll make all the monies in the NFL. Today’s a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it is Tuesday, December 10th, 2019, and I think it's going to be the greatest Tuesday in the history of Tuesdays. I've got a good show for you today. A lot of shit was talked about the NFL weekend, college football playoffs, you name it. I got a chance to go to an SEC game, saw adults barking. It was a cult down there. They say SEC, it just means more. I learned that this weekend.
Starting point is 00:00:23 It was my first SEC game. It was fucking wild. I dive deep into that. We talk about a lot of things. I'm currently watching Eli Manning go absolutely ham in what he's calling potentially his last football game of all time. Peyton Manning and the family are up in the suites watching him. This is kind of like a pretty cool moment. Peyton said he didn't want to take the Monday Night Football job because he didn't want to have to critique his brother. Well, this is the exact game he's talking about. And instead, Peyton and the entire team are up in a suite,
Starting point is 00:00:52 watching along, and I think it's actually a pretty beautiful thing. Giants plus eight and a half. I hammered it. I hope Eli goes hard as a Manning motherfucker. Ham, two Ms. Saquon Barkley has the biggest quads I've ever seen in my entire life. I mean, there was a post by ESPN. I don't know how his knees can hold up his quads.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I don't know why they stink. It doesn't make any sense to me. Same with the Eagles. They've got a lot of talent, and these teams are just tough to watch. I mean, the NFC East is tough to watch tackle football. But here we are on Monday Night Football. This show is brought to you by the greatest ticket-buying platform on planet Earth and the moon.
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Starting point is 00:02:18 Saquon recovered it, though, so it kind of distracted me there a little bit. I kind of wish I was at this game. We're watching maybe the end of an era here, the Manning era in the NFL until the son of Cooper comes out. I guess he's really good, but this could be the end of the Manning era here. Good family, by the way. Good family. Nothing but nice to me. I don't know how they are to other people, but they're very nice to me. Anyways, promo code Pat, you get $10 off your first order. Promo code McAfee, $20 off your first order. Holy shit, I know. The holiday's right around the corner. Give the gift of a live event to somebody. Say, hey, you know what? Let's go to a show.
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Starting point is 00:03:34 I think your next life is DJ, man. Move the crowd, bro. Hey, you know what? I appreciate that. I thought about just getting like an actual DJ to put together an entire set list for me, putting a big box on my head and touring the country. I thought about that a few times. I mean, you know, let me be your manager, Pat. I mean, I've always said I wanted to be your representation, man. You know, no shame, no shame in doing it on your podcast. You know what I might be looking for new representation shortly. So, hey, I will keep you on the burner.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Let's talk about representation, though. Dwayne Haskins is now the face of the Washington Redskins. They are living and dying with him. I assume the next coach that they hire is going to have to be one that can work with Dwayne Haskins. They played a Packers team that won ugly, but they looked like they were in that game. He could have quit, too, whenever his ankle got rolled up. What are you seeing out of Dwayne Haskins? Do you like what you see?
Starting point is 00:04:27 And are the Redskins ever going to be good at football again? Oh, there was a whole lot of questions in that. I don't know where to start. Dwayne Haskins, I've liked Dwayne Haskins since college. I think if he has the right guidance and the right leadership, he can be a fine professional quarterback and fine enough to lead a team and lead the Washington Redskins. They have seemed to play better in the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I mean, obviously, since the departure of Gruden, couple weeks i mean obviously um since the departure of of gruden uh they they seem to to be trying um or playing a little better than what they have been so i was surprised that they were as competitive as they were against green bay so credit them for continuing to to fight along the way um i don't know will they they ever win in Washington? It doesn't look like they have the structure to be able to win in such a competitive league. It's always one of those things. You don't have to guess if a team can be competitive or not. It's one of those, I guess, interesting categories where you can say you get to see the results. The results, the market speaks every weekend
Starting point is 00:05:55 and you know who those teams are. Yeah, the NFC East looks like a big old suck fest, but the NFC as a whole, there's a lot of teams that are very good. I mean, that Saints 49ers game yesterday was awesome. But the NFC, what's that? It was really good. Yeah, defense kind of disappeared. Does that happen every once in a while?
Starting point is 00:06:16 Like, for instance, last week the Niners take on the Ravens in a heavyweight slugfest. I mean, they stay in Florida. They go over to Superdome. And both those teams' defenses, I think we both expected a little bit more out of them, but instead it was the offenses, and especially that 49ers offense showed up when nobody thought they could. Should they be worried about the defense just having one bad day, and how happy should they
Starting point is 00:06:38 be about the Niners offense showing up and showing out? Well, those are, I mean, that's one of the best to do it you know coaching wise and quarterback wise breeze and and and payton uh for for the new orleans saints so you know every once in a while the team has your number it's a matchup issue you would say that coming into the game if if drew breeze and sean payton can game plan you it's going to be a matchup problem just because of the the talent that they have and what they're capable of doing but then you got to look at the 49ers the same exact way so the fact that it was a scoring scoring fest I wouldn't look for that to be too often with the type of defense that San Francisco or the New Orleans Saints play.
Starting point is 00:07:26 But I just think it was two top teams that were playing really well, and they got into rhythms, and, yeah, sometimes it's just going to be shootouts. That was a – I mean, the NFC playoff is going to be so much fun to watch. I mean, you look at the Rams all of a sudden playing good football. The Seattle Seahawks get a loss last night. But then the Packers are winning ugly. I don't know if even their fans are that confident. The Vikings are hot. Obviously, the Niners and the Saints.
Starting point is 00:07:53 The NFC looks like it's something to be very much desired aside from the NFC East whenever it comes to playoff football. I think it's going to be a fun playoff. I thought the New England game. I don't sleep on the AFC. I think that this is going to be one of the most competitive playoffs and Super Bowls that we've seen in recent history. So whoever it is, it's going to be pretty well played
Starting point is 00:08:21 to get to the Super Bowl this year, especially in the NFC. So I like the Niners. I really do. I think the Niners are really showing that they have the ability to win the games. I know there's questions surrounding whether Garoppolo or Shanahan can make the calls. Can Garoppolo make the throws, manage the games, make the plays.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I just, I really like the way the Niners are playing and to be able to get that type of a win, man, I'm looking at them as the front runner. But like you said, there's so many teams in NFC that are playing so well that there's no way of telling who may be the hottest team hitting the playoffs. I think that Niners offense answered a lot of questions yesterday. I mean, granted, the defense didn't show up at the same time because John Payton and Drew Brees, but I think for me, I learned a lot more about that offense and had a lot more respect for that Niners team after what they did yesterday. I think everybody does. Let's pivot real quick to the AFC. You're a freak
Starting point is 00:09:27 athlete. I mean, by all accounts, one of the most athletic humans to ever do a professional sport. Lamar Jackson is making people look like amateurs. I don't know if I got a chance to ask you this the last time you were on. How would you defend Lamar Jackson? And is he stoppable other than maybe potentially stopping himself?
Starting point is 00:09:45 It's difficult to figure out how to stop a running quarterback with the awareness that he has. It's like, okay, if he has one good attribute, like he can run really well, you can game plan to stop a quarterback that runs really well. If he can move a little bit and throw the ball, that's a little bit more difficult. But when you have one who brings both to the table where they can read the field as a true pocket-passing quarterback
Starting point is 00:10:20 but can also run away from you as a true running quarterback, quarterback but could also run away from you as a true running quarterback i i would have to say this is one of those moments in time where if he can if he can continue on the trajectory that he's on he's one of those those evolutionary revolutionary type of players where you're going to actually have to try to figure out how you can get guys who are fast enough to play the run and fast enough to play the pass, but strong enough to tackle. So basically, it might become like a nickel and dime league when you're playing against these type of teams, which may usher back in the running back and their importance because it's difficult for secondary people to be able to tackle true running backs. So he may change the entire format of how you try to play defense
Starting point is 00:11:18 because his IQ is high enough and his timing. Like that little foot pass that he did. There's no way, like, let's game plan for him getting you into a matchup with the Titan and him and let me, oh, let me flick it at the last second and get it to, it's almost, you know, everybody refers to it as he's playing basketball. They're playing basketball on the football field. Kind of hard. You know what I loved about him? LeVar, and I think you would love him about this too.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Him trolling that 49ers color commentator by wearing the white long sleeves with the white gloves, one of my favorite things I've seen on a football field. I noticed that it was very subtle. It was pretty cool. And there was no answer for him with his white long-sleeved shirt on and his white gloves. So seeing what's believing, I guess, would be the theme of yesterday's game. So to you old whites, let's make it clear that if Lamar Jackson was a Caucasian quarterback, he'd still be able to do everything that he's currently doing.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I don't know if people need to hear that or see that, but I'm happy one particular color commentator did need to see that. And Lamar proved that. This offense... A color commentator, huh? The irony. The irony of a color commentator, huh? I don't know how those humans still exist.
Starting point is 00:12:41 By the way, they make all whites look bad. By the way, that guy made all whites look bad. And that's just, it happens on a regular occasion. I'm done with it. I'm through with it. All right. Got a couple minutes left here, LeVar. I enjoy speaking to you.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I think you do good every time you're on TV or on Fox. I want to talk to you about a guy that isn't doing that good right now. Tom Brady, man. I mean, Tom Brady and that Patriots offense. Last night, if it wasn't for Alberto Riveron in the game, I think the Patriots possibly win that game. And last week against the Texans, it was a one-score game still. They've played dreadful on the offensive side of the ball,
Starting point is 00:13:15 and they're still in it. Is there any hope that the Patriots are going to do anything this year, or is this it? Is this finally the time that this dynasty comes crashing down? I don't think so, man. I mean, they're a bad call away from winning the game. I agree. The kid doesn't go out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:13:30 He gets the touchdown. They call him out of bounds. They can't challenge it. I just think some of these challenge rules and some of these things that take place are ridiculous for the game. I mean, the New England Patriots have got to be the most maligned best team that we see in the league right now. I mean, they're, what, number two right now to Baltimore? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:53 We're talking about the dynasty is over, you know, and how – and listen, I heard Rodney Harrison in his commentary last night about trick plays and this, that, and the other, and it's a bad sign and this and that. When I watched Tom Brady, I really didn't think he looked horrible, to be honest. I thought he made some really fine throws. I thought that they made some timely plays. And their defense can make plays.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I mean, at one moment in time, it was like, okay, here we go with the New England Patriots. And then you're looking at, you know, you got to think about how fine of a team that is that they were playing as well um so that's a that's a potential you know afc championship round game or something to that effect so to see them basically come up short in a game where it's not hypothetical to say they had that game won. So I don't think it's the end or the conclusion. I think there's definitely some struggling going on there, whether it be from person to person, whether it be the offensive game plan, whether it be a lack of weapons for Tom Brady. But I still look at the New England Patriots as they're still the New England Patriots until somebody proves otherwise.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I agree. They're going to have to go on the road, though, because Baltimore's about to have home field advantage, and Baltimore's not an easy place to play. I don't think that gets talked about a lot. I wouldn't disagree with you, but in the playoffs, I just have not seen anyone game plan and prepare for the playoffs the way that the New England Patriots have. But with that said, you know, there's got to be at some point, there's got to be fatigue. I mean, they're there every single year.
Starting point is 00:15:40 They have the least amount of rest of any other team in the National Football League. There has to be mental, emotional, physical fatigue at some point with Belichick and Brady and some of these other guys that are on that team. And that's why I think it seems like they've been immortal because they've been immune to that for so long. That's why it's so, like you make the Super Bowl, everybody's like, oh, it's impossible to make it back because of the emotional pressure. They've been doing it for 20 years, this team, and that's why whenever you see
Starting point is 00:16:09 them struggle this late into December, everybody's like, oh, oh, is this it? And I can't bet against them. I dread the day where I'm going to have to say, like, I think they're going to lose because you're going to get buried on the internet because they've been so good for so long, and Belichick can pull it off, but I don't know. They haven't looked great, LeVar, unlike you. Every time you're on television, on Fox,
Starting point is 00:16:26 and every time you join us, I can't thank you enough, my brother. Appreciate you, Pat. Ladies and gentlemen, all mammal, all American, all pro, all everything, LeVar Arrington. Thank you, LeVar. All right, bro. Adam Vinatieri, breaking news, has been moved to injured reserve with a nagging knee injury that will require knee surgery.
Starting point is 00:16:50 A lot of people are hinting that this is the end of the road for the old man. And if it is, I think it's time to go ahead and take a trip down memory lane. This man came out of South Dakota State, was a jackrabbit. Nobody wanted him. Went over to Virginia, trained a little bit, got sent overseas to the NFL Europe World League, whatever the hell it was. Kicked for the Amsterdam Admirals, came back, took a job from a bar
Starting point is 00:17:14 at New England Patriots under Parcells. He went on to become the all-time leading scorer at the time for the Patriots, scored 1,000 points with them, won a couple Super Bowls, had some of the biggest moments in NFL history as a Patriot. Then, as a free agent, he joins the Indianapolis Colts. Wins a Super Bowl that year.
Starting point is 00:17:32 The man just collected Super Bowl rings throughout his 20-plus year career. At some point, his body was going to catch up with him. This offseason, going into training camp, his knee was hurting. He took some time off. Then he came in, had a little bit of a shaky year, made some kicks, missed some kicks, made some kicks, missed some kicks. Everybody was on him. You're too old. You're too this. You're too that. All he did was keep showing up to work and kicking the ball. A lot of rumors were spread that he was going to retire mid-season. Adam Vinatieri, one of the most competitive humans
Starting point is 00:18:00 of all time, there was no way he was just going to quit after having a couple bad games. He said, what type of message would that send to my kids if I just quit whenever there was one little glimpse of negativity? Because for a long time here, Vinny has been immortal. This man who's played a position that is pressure-packed, this man who's played a position that requires a lot of explosion to make it into your 40s is something that's impressive that not a lot have done. He made the NFL all-time team. Congratulations to him. He deserves it. He stepped up in big situations.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And now, going on IR, a lot of people are talking about it being the end of the road. And if that's the case, Mr. Adam Vinatieri, it was an honor to hold your balls, my friend. It was an absolute honor. And if he decides to come back, which I am not ruling out, by the way, just so everybody understands, Adam Vinatieri is the most competitive human being I have ever met in my entire life. If you're playing a game of chess with him, and I don't know the rules of chess, but let's say you're close to winning or whatever, you're like, as soon as you get the word check before made out, he'll flip the board and say, I didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I didn't see it happen. If you're going to play checkers and something's going on, he is the most competitive human I've ever been around. That's why he works out so hard. That's why he still trains so hard. That's why he's still in the NFL. I'm not sure what he's going to do. I think he's going to be conflicted. I have not talked to him because I do have a very large mouth
Starting point is 00:19:17 with no filter and a lot of microphones, so I don't want him to give me any information because I don't want to be the one that releases it. Although I think I should have been the one that broke that he was going on IR. I think I've done a lot for the Colts releases it. Although I think I should have been the one that broke that he was going on IR. I think I've done a lot for the Colts. Them not telling me directly. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Will I turn on him? We'll see. We'll see. We'll see how I feel after this show. It's just happening now. I'm not happy I didn't get told this before anything else. I think this weekend with Chase McLaughlin was potentially a moment where they're like, hey, let's see if we can find a guy that's almost halfway worth a damn. Chase McLaughlin
Starting point is 00:19:46 proved that. He missed a kick late, by the way. Missed a kick late, that is not good news. But he hit a 50-yarder, did some other things, looked like he hits a good ball. I don't think he's anywhere near the same guy as Adam Vinatieri is, but there's nobody like Adam Vinatieri. That's why he's the greatest of all time. Going on IR. Hopefully he gets that knee healthy. We'll be excited
Starting point is 00:20:02 to see what he does in the future, but if this is it, it was an honor to watch him kick balls. It an honor to hold your balls my friend and i hope you have nothing but a beautiful life ahead of you with that gorgeous family of yours and if he comes back hey man i hope you break more records i don't know how many more there are to break but i hope you do in a situation like that does he know probably like the whole year like hey i i need surgery and it's more a testament to his competitiveness that like the trainers are like hey you're just you're kind of hurting yourself we need to we need to shelve you yeah I think so and I would assume if he was younger this is something that they all would agree like hey we're gonna get surgery after this season but now as you're older this is just
Starting point is 00:20:35 what happens now in in the grand scheme of life is he an old man no no no but in football he is an old man. Right. An old man. Old. Just an old-ass man in the game of football. So your body doesn't recover as fast. These are just things that happen. So the nagging injury, I would assume, could have affected a lot of things this year. That wasn't talked about. You never heard him make any excuses, by the way, which, good on him for doing that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And I would assume that he's going to get surgery that if he was a little bit younger, maybe he would have been at the end of the season. But yeah, this is something that obviously he had to do a lot of rehab for. This is something that really affected him, I would assume. And he did not have his best year. I'll be excited to see what he does. I don't want to find out because
Starting point is 00:21:16 I won't be able to hold back. Because you're talking about one of the greatest football players of all time. In a sport that revolves around scoring, if you score the most points, how's it going, best of all time? Tough to argue. Anyways, moving forward, if you score the most points, how's it going? Best of all time. Tough to argue.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Anyways, moving forward, speaking of greatest of all time, boy, these Patriots. Hey, I dread the day that it's going to happen, too. I hammered the Chiefs' money line last night. Hammered it. Because I was getting good odds, and also because it felt like the Chiefs had too many weapons. The defense had been carrying that Patriots team. We've all seen it. This is nothing crazy that I'm saying right now.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The special teams have been doing incredible. They got a blocked kick, but they blocked one themselves as well. And last night was very much more of the same. I think the defense played well against that Chiefs team. A lot of people are talking about, oh, the Patriots defense is going down. It's like, that Chiefs offense, whenever it's humming, when you got Travis Kelsey going and Tyreek Hill getting in the mix, I mean, that's LeSean McCoy getting the ball. Patrick Mahomes, obviously, feels like his knee's better. When that offense is going, it's hard to stop by anybody. You just have to put up points with them. You have to keep up with them, especially
Starting point is 00:22:19 if you get a couple turnovers and things like that, which aren't normal. Travis Kelsey loses the ball. The refs blow it for them. Nikhil Travis Kelsey loses the ball, the refs blow it for them. Nikhil Harry definitely inbounds, the refs blow it for him. Pass interference inside the 10, the refs blow it for him. I mean, that game was one that the Patriots, if Alberto Riveron, gang, gets it anywhere near accurate, the Patriots probably win that game. And we're sitting here today saying, Bill Belichick somehow, someway is winning with one of the most
Starting point is 00:22:47 inept offenses we've ever seen. Not only in Patriots history, it's obviously that, but in winning football history. I don't think I've ever seen a team that is 10-3 look so bad in the phase of the game that revolves around the scoring part of everything, which is the offense.
Starting point is 00:23:03 They look bad. They get rid of Demarius Thomas twice. They cut him, everything, which is the offense. They look bad. They get rid of Demarius Thomas twice. They cut him, then trade him away for a seventh-round pick. They get rid of Josh Gordon. They put him on IR. They choose to put him on IR to get him out of the building. They don't even cut him. Put him on IR.
Starting point is 00:23:18 He's not making plays for Seahawks last night. Not as many that we thought he would have, but he's still making some plays. They get rid of Antonio Brown. Obviously, terrible allegations come out. Antonio Brown kind of called it upon us. They get rid of all these people, and you go, you know what? Bill Belichick will figure it out. That's what Bill Belichick does. That offense, though. Without the trick plays, there's no movement. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Marcus Spears this morning, old swaggoo, who I'm a big fan of, he said in the production meeting, he said, it's hard for the Patriots to get a yard right now. He said it's hard to get a yard, let alone points. Their run game isn't really popping off. And whenever he's thrown, that Jacoby Myers guy, he cannot catch a football. That is a tough thing to do whenever you're a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Now, granted, that might change. It maybe just has a little bit of the jitters. Nikhil Harry is turning to be a good player for them. But aside from Julian Edelman, there's really nothing. There's nothing happening for them. A couple trick plays, you get it moving. But on the offensive side of the ball, they have not done jack-diddly-squat.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And this is the time of year where, even to Bill Belichick's mind, this is when they're supposed to be playing real football. After Thanksgiving, that's when real football. Kyle Van Nooy told us that. We're two weeks past Thanksgiving now, and that
Starting point is 00:24:24 offense is nowhere near looking like it's one that could do damage in the playoffs. But even with all of that, they still could have won that game. Just like last week against the Texans, who ran into a buzzsaw on Drew Locke this week, even against the Texans, they're still a one-score game, and they were completely inept on the offensive side of the ball. And there's going to come a time where I'm going to have to publicly say, Patriots are done. Patriots' dynasty is over. But that day is not today. Strictly because I think the overall score against teams that I was on
Starting point is 00:24:51 against this Patriots team is like 700 to 10 maybe. We've lost a lot of games. They used to hang 50 on us, 45 on us. Those days seem to be long gone though. If they can't figure out that offense inside the ball, even with how great the defense is and how great the special teams have been, it's going to be tough to win in the playoffs whenever you're playing against teams that can move the rock and score.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And I think Baltimore is only proving that they can win in any fashion that you need them to win. It's going to be tough for the Patriots to get going, even though they're 10-3 and still should have won that game if it wasn't for, hey, Booger's a bad ref. That guy is a bad ref that guy oh my god i'm surprised he didn't get promoted to uh alberto riveron's position to be honest with you the way things work i mean it was just they could have won that game and they're terrible right now on offense and i think uh marcus spears made a good point this morning too he said it it doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:38 matter how good your defense is if they're on the field for like 70 plays a game like over the course of a season that's going to wear you down. If your offense can't sustain drives at all, at what point do you have to kind of take some of that onus on yourself? It's like we can't rely on the defense to win every single game in the playoffs. You can't. It's not going to happen. Now, any given Sunday, the inch in front of your face
Starting point is 00:26:01 and the inch behind you is all that matters, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff. The guy that played Jimmy Hoffa said that. But is that accurate? That's a good movie reference there. I just don't think with that offense they're going to be able to do anything. And it's sad because, man, this dynasty has been an awesome one to watch. And I think at the end of the day, it's going to be arrogance that bites them in the butt. Get rid of Demarius Thomas.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Get rid of Josh Gordon. Don't need him. Don't need him. Turns out you need something. Tom Brady, a guy that I have said on numerous occasions I didn't think sweat. I didn't think he ever felt bad. I always thought he was like this guy that just hops out of the clouds with a halo on him. He's handsome, more wealthy, more athletic, more successful than I am.
Starting point is 00:26:38 He seems even like distraught, I think. He seems distraught. We've got to play better. I need you to be faster, quicker, more explosive. We've got to play better. Even after wins in the years past, he was very calm, cool, and collected. Massive wins.
Starting point is 00:26:56 They get huge wins. He'd go into that press conference just, cool's the other side of the pillow. Which, by the way, I don't know how that is a quote. Cool's the other side of the pillow. Which, by the way, I don't know how that is a quote. Cool is the other side of the pillow. Me neither. I've never really understood it.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Stuart Scott, I think, was the one. Well, rest in peace, Stuart Scott. I love him a lot. I love Stuart Scott. But for me, I abuse pillows in bed. I mean, I flip them around. Oh, yeah. Punch them.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Oh, yeah. I think maybe I'm an aggressive sleeper because once the pillow gets flat because I have a massive head, i flip that thing around and it's normally hot because i flipped it around two minutes before so i never understood that quote maybe it's just me i don't understand but he did always seem smooth as the other side of a standard sleeper's pillow now even after losses we're onto this we're onto that normally it's how belichick said tom brady same same way. Now they seem both like, yeah man, we stink on offense. What do you want from us? We can't do
Starting point is 00:27:48 anything. We're drawing up these trick plays. We ran tempo at the beginning. They ran tempo like a college football team at the beginning of that game last night just to spur something. Scored, then it kind of slowed down. Then they're running double passes. They're running this. They're running that. They're trying everything they possibly can to gain yards. And credit to that Chiefs defense, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:04 That Chiefs defense five weeks ago, four weeks ago, was a laughingstock. People were going after them. Now they've really turned it around and got good. They got rid of Justin Houston as well, who was a great pass rusher. That defense with Tyron Matthew, the Honey Badger, they're getting going and they just completely stumped the Patriots last
Starting point is 00:28:20 night. And I just don't know how much, or yesterday, I don't know how far they can go. And I'm not going to go out here and say that they're going to lose in the first round. I'm not going to say that. No, why would you? People are saying that. A lot of people are saying that. People are saying this dynasty's done. People are saying they're going to lose in the first
Starting point is 00:28:35 round. People are saying Tom Brady's either going to retire or go somewhere else. People are saying a lot of things. I won't say it just yet, though. Because this is still the Patriots we're talking about. This is still a team that if anybody else was the coach of this thing, they'd be 1-11. This is still a team that that defense is elite, that that special teams is impressive, and they still have Tom Brady playing quarterback. That blocked punt I thought was going to spark them into a comeback, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:58 That blocked punt happens where Colquitt has to eat one right up the gut, which I'm sure there's people blaming Colquitt for that because there's idiots out there talking. But they just blocked it right up the gut. They had Slater block one off the edge. They got one right up the gut, which I'm sure there's people blaming Colquitt for that because there's idiots out there talking. But they just blocked it right up the gut. They had Slater block one off the edge. They got him right up the gut. I thought that was going to turn the entire team around because that is something that can happen. In years past, by the way, something like that happens. The Patriots go on and bang, bang, bang.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Patriots get a pick. Normally they go on and score. Bang, bang. They don't. It's just something different. It's weird, man. It's very weird. Belichick's hosting shows very well, by the way.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Listen to him talk on that NFL 100 thing. You learn how big of a fan he is of the game. Him talking about Ed Reed and these players from the best. I mean, it's awesome to watch, but it just feels like this dynasty, one that has been our entire life, basically. Yeah. It doesn't matter what city you go to outside of the Northeast. What team do you hate?
Starting point is 00:29:45 The Patriots. We hate the Patriots. I assume in NBA cities back in the day it was the Bulls. I assume it was the Lakers for a long time. The Yankees. These teams that have been so good for so long, everybody hates them because people throw rocks at shiny things. Taylor Swift said that.
Starting point is 00:30:01 That was back when she was country, I think. She's changed a bit. But it's real. Everybody hated the Patriots because of how long their dominance was, and it just feels like. Rex Ryan has said it. Everybody said there's nobody to fear anymore. You don't fear anybody on that offense anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:15 If you're a defense, you're going in and you're like, okay, here we go. We're going to feast on the greatest of all time. And it's been happening, but they've still been in games because of how good their coaching is. So you can't rule them out yet, but people are ruling them out. Oh yeah, well, like you said, years past too, they've basically relied on the idea that, hey, Brady's going to make everyone
Starting point is 00:30:32 better. It doesn't matter who we have. He's getting to the point in his career where that's not the case anymore. He doesn't have a clean pocket. They can't protect him. I mean, that's the biggest issue. If he can't throw from his spot, he's screwed because he can't move around at all. I think he got to 17, 18 miles an hour, though, on that fourth down. He might have.
Starting point is 00:30:48 He might have. He's been training in the backyard. We've seen him. He's on a TB12 on the bands. It all paid off on that fourth down. I thought maybe that would even get him going because he was celebrating. Belichick was celebrating, and he couldn't do it. But playoff football.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's right. They're still going to be in, and I assume they're still going to do damage. Still wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs. Would never. But the Baltimore Ravens getting a home field advantage is massive. Not having to go to Foxborough is huge. In Baltimore, that M&T Bank, I think it is, that place is not easy to play. I said this on GetUp.
Starting point is 00:31:21 When the White Stripes Seven Nation Army gets going in there, those fans are relentless. They are ruthless. They are loud. In this particular year, they are very, very proud of all three phases they got going. Special
Starting point is 00:31:37 teams, they got the best kicking unit in the game. Justin Tucker, Sam Cook, Morgan Cox, the Wolfpack. Best kicking unit in the game. Plus, their coverage is great. They got good special teams coaches. That defense with Marcus Peters Morgan Cox, the Wolfpack. Best kicking unit in the game. Plus their coverage is great. They've got good special teams coaches. That defense with Marcus Peters, oh, the savages. And they're chugging beers after breaking up passes. I love everything about them.
Starting point is 00:31:53 That was awesome. And then on the offensive side of the ball, Greg Roman has a guy who can do no wrong. Bad calls are good calls with Lamar Jackson. The tight ends dropped a couple balls early, by the way, which I referred to on GetUp. If those two balls are caught early, they're up like 14 in the first quarter. That game's over. There's nothing you can do. A lot of people
Starting point is 00:32:14 said, did you even watch the game saying they were going to blow them out? If Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens, with that defense, that offense, that special teams, gets up two scores early, it's over. It is over. They're going to ground and pound you for a six-minute drive, seven-minute drive. That Buffalo Bills team, much better than anybody gives them credit for.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I agree completely. But that Ravens team could have won very convincingly if they coupled early things. And they did win convincingly. I mean, they didn't cover, which a little bit of a, a little bit of a what's going on, guys. But I said on Get Up, give Lamar Jackson the MVP right now. Not only because he hit a five-piece
Starting point is 00:32:48 on a guy, made him fall over, tackle a ghost. Strictly because he wore the white long sleeve with the white glove to troll an old white from the Niners. The color commentator said, well, it's his skin tone makes it a lot easier to do the play action.
Starting point is 00:33:04 First of all, what buffoon lets that slip out of his mouth? What buffoon who is actually getting paid to commentate about football would use that as something as an advantage? What idiot thinks that's an actual advantage? How old is that guy? 95 years old. How does that guy have a job is the first thing. I assume if you say that, you say a lot of other dumb things in your life as well.
Starting point is 00:33:27 But then for Lamar to acknowledge it, troll it, dominate, and then just keep it moving without saying a word, he's my MVP. Yeah, me too. Hey, that's my MVP. Give it to him now. Oh, you got three games left? Cancel them.
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Starting point is 00:37:43 Hey, you enjoy Cheez-Its. You enjoy football. Let's watch a game together. Back to the show. Joining us now is a man who's a diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I don't know why he didn't call in last week. I told him he should have.
Starting point is 00:37:59 This week he sent me a text and said, I would like to chit-chat about our guy, Ducky Hodges. Ladies and gentlemen, at Tone Diggs. Diggs, how'd you feel about what happened yesterday with the Ducky Hodges going into the desert, getting a win that nobody thought they could get? I mean, listen. Listen, yesterday I felt incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:20 There's nothing better. The Steelers are 8-5. The no Juju, the no Connor, the no Ben Roethlisberger The Steelers are 8-5. The no Juju, the no Connor, the no Ben Roethlisberger Steelers are 8-5. The team that everyone wanted to trade Mike Tomlin to the Washington Redskins are 8-5. 13 straight here. No losing seasons. The organization hasn't had a losing season since 2003. The only undrafted quarterback ever to start a season
Starting point is 00:38:45 or whatever his career is. Three, you know? Wow. I was feeling great. I woke up this morning, though, still feeling great. Threw on my Steelers chain. Victory Monday. Came to the office, grabbed some coffee.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Tim made some great beef jerky. Sorry, deer jerky. It was incredible. Close, right? I go on to NFL.com to place my approval vote for the only undefeated quarterback in the NFL. He's not even on the list. Come on.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Come on. Duck Yardges. Can't even vote for him for the Pro Bowl? The NFL is afraid of Duck taking over the league. Wow. Breaking news. The NFL is scared of a bird. The NFL is scared of a bird the NFL is scared
Starting point is 00:39:27 of an icon the NFL is scared that this Pro Bowl could potentially become the Duck Bowl and they don't even have him as on the ballot digs can't even vote for him
Starting point is 00:39:38 listen as we saw last night Tom Brady's done so you need your next iconic quarterback this is the guy you send him directly to the top of the Pro Bowl voting you make sure he gets in Last night, Tom Brady's done. So you need your next iconic quarterback. This is the guy. You send him directly to the top of the Pro Bowl voting. You make sure he gets in because you need a new face in the league.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And let me tell you, it's Duck Hodges. What about Lamar Jackson? Who? Lamar Jackson. He's in the AFC North, actually. Duck and Lamar potentially run into each other. What do they have? What do they have? 95 passing yards? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Are the Steelers, do they have any chance to get that wild card, Diggs? Yeah, actually, yeah. Aside from Duck, the defense, the Steelers defense, since make it came over, first in takeaways, first in quarterback hits, first in pass to defendants, first
Starting point is 00:40:24 in forced fumbles, second interceptions, first in quarterback hits, first in pass to defendants, first in forced fumbles, second interceptions, first in sacks. Defense number one. We play the Bills in Buffer. No, sorry, the Bills at home, primetime. Still going through home primetime. The Nololi Jets, that should be a W. And the Ravens hopefully don't have something to play
Starting point is 00:40:39 for week 17. Hopefully get a W there. But then the Titans, Tannehill's incredible, but they have the Texans twice and New Orleans, so good luck with that. So you think Steelers are potentially 11-5 if Lamar Jackson, the guy who you said you're not scared of at all in the future, decides not to play.
Starting point is 00:41:00 You think Steelers are sitting at 11-5, them and the Buffalo Bills pick up the two wild-card spots? Yeah, absolutely, 100%. And then, yeah, I'm not afraid. Also, the last time Lamar Jackson played a defense, the Pittsburgh Steelers, he turned three interceptions. So, I mean, he's been playing all these cupcakes week in, week out. I'm not even going to question. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Hey, Diggs, I appreciate it. I'm happy you're feeling good, too, by the way. Let's try to get to that Sunday night game, huh? Wait, seriously? I think we should think about it. I'm happy you're feeling good too, by the way. Let's try to get to that Sunday night game, huh? Wait, seriously? I think we should think about it. Yeah. I'm in. What if we all went except for you?
Starting point is 00:41:36 Well, I currently have a flight back from D.C. I could change it to Pittsburgh. Not a big deal. Alright, Diggs. I appreciate you. Congrats to your Steelers, by the way. See ya. That is really, you can't vote for Duck Hodges right now. It's absurd. Drew Locke, also an undefeated quarterback,
Starting point is 00:41:51 though. So Drew Locke, who got drafted in the third round or second round, I forget what it was. John Elway might have finally hit on a guy. And now, I think the Texans could have potentially hit a little bit of a lull. You get that big win against the Patriots and you have the Titans coming up, which is a massive division game for them to potentially continue to carry on into the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:42:12 So it might have hit a lull, maybe a little bit of a trap game for the Texans, which you don't expect professional athletes to have because, hey, you're getting paid money. You're the best of the best. You can't have feelings. You can't have emotions. These are just real things that happen, kind of ebbs and flows. It almost felt like that Broncos game was a trap game for them. But Drew Locke, people are saying Joe Flacco not only was a problem in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Oh, no. Potentially a problem in Denver because they didn't let Drew Locke get out there and get loose. I think Drew was hurt, by the way, so Drew Locke did not deserve that. He's a guest on the podcast. But it seems like Drew Locke potentially their guy over there. Doesn't he just look exactly like Case Keenum and just happens to play better? Yeah, he kind of does. Case Keenum did not work out over there.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I mean, Elway doesn't really have a great track record of grabbing quarterbacks outside of the year. They won the Super Bowl with Peyton. So, we'll see. I mean, he's going to pat himself on the back to no end if Drew Locke ends up being the guy. Von Miller loves Drew Locke. Von Miller posted on his IG that we got a, I think it was a Rockstar thing because of what the Texans did last week with the Rockstar thing. Von Miller tweeted about old Drew Locke.
Starting point is 00:43:17 This is the same thing that's happened with old Ducky Hodges. When the rest of the team starts propping up the quarterback, that's really good news because everybody normally props up the quarterback, right? Everybody props up the quarterback. You put them up in high regards. And normally the team doesn't do it, right? The team just knows, like, ah, that's our guy. We're behind him, whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:33 But as soon as the players start propping up the quarterback, like they do with Lamar Jackson. Right. Big trust. You know, like Mark Ingram hyping him up. The defense is hyping him up. Whenever you see the rest of the team rallying behind your guy, man, that's a beautiful thing for that locker room.
Starting point is 00:43:47 That's that X factor that can't be accounted for. That's the camaraderie, the chemistry that can win games for people without the X's and O's. We're talking about the Jimmys and the Joes making things happen for him. That's happening with Ducky Hodges. He's throwing up gang signs with Juju Smith-Schuster in his very expensive car. It's happening with Drew Locke, with Vaughn Miller. It's happening with Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Deshaun Watson was getting that treatment. That's really cool to see whenever a team is lifting up the quarterback as opposed to the media being the only ones to do it. That means something good is generating inside of that locker room. I'm sitting alongside a man named Ty Schmidt from Waterloo, Iowa, who happens to be an owner of the Green Bay Packers. We didn't get a chance to talk about them much in the first hour. Green Bay Packers, although they get a win against Dwayne Haskins
Starting point is 00:44:31 in the mighty, the fighting Redskins, it seems like there might be some despair in Cheesehead Country. Is that accurate? Yeah. I mean, a lot of people will say, like, well, you're 10-3. There's really nothing to be complaining about. But they don't really look like a good football team. Did they peak too early?
Starting point is 00:44:51 I don't even know if they peaked too early. My biggest problem is every single week they get out, they score on the first two drives or two out of the first three drives. They're up 14-0, and then they get the ball back, and they're in a position to really put the cleats on someone's throat and end the game. And LeFleur gets cute every single week. Hey, enough with the cute stuff, LeFleur!
Starting point is 00:45:11 I mean, like, yesterday, they were up, yeah, same deal. They were up 14-0. They had the ball again. At, like, the 50-yard line, they take a couple sacks. They have to punt. They go in and score there. You're up 21-0, and then you make Dwayne Haskins beat you with his arm. A couple picks are going to come. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:27 They should have won that game by like five touchdowns. But because they're 10-3, it's easy to kind of just brush everything under the rug. This offense is basically the same as last year, if not worse. Stats-wise? Yeah. Last year,
Starting point is 00:45:43 23.5 points per game. This year, 23.8. Stats-wise? Yeah, last year, 23.5 points per game. This year, 23.8. Next to no difference there. Yeah, that's.3 points, though. Yards per play last year, 5.8. 5.5 this year. Oh, less than.3. We got them back.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yards per attempt last year, 7.2. This year, 7.4. Whoa. I mean, yards per carry is down this year, and they have arguably one of the best running backs in the league. Yards per drive last year, 33.2. This year, 31.8. So, I mean, and I was, you know, ringing this louder than anyone.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I thought, yeah, it's all McCarthy's fault. He doesn't know what he's doing. But it's basically the same offense with a new philosophy. And, yeah, they're winning games. But then you watch that 49ers and Saints game. It's like, well, how the hell are the Packers going to beat either one of these guys? Granted, if they win out, it's not inconceivable to think they could get the one seed in the NFC.
Starting point is 00:46:35 They could do it. If they get that first-round buy and they get to play a couple of games in Lambeau, they might win a few, but it's just, I feel like the disparity between the truly elite teams in the NFC and the Packers, it's a very wide gap. Same deal. Opportunistic defense, when they're getting turnovers and forcing pressure and getting to the quarterback, they do fine.
Starting point is 00:46:57 But when they're not, yesterday, Adrian Peterson gashed him on the run. I mean, Dwayne Haskins had maybe his best game of the year. Are you scared? Yeah, I mean, Dwayne Haskins had maybe his best game of the year. Are you scared? Yeah, I mean... Aaron Rodgers said last week he's looking at hole 18. He can see hole 18, which I think was a motivator trying to motivate his troops like, hey, we need to play a little bit better. I don't know how much longer
Starting point is 00:47:16 I'm going to be around or how many times this type of opportunity is going to get. They're 10-3. A lot different than last year, but it sounds like you guys know that reality is potentially, as soon as you get in the playoffs, you're going to run into a buzzsaw in that NFC. Exactly, and it's the same thing. I've always said this.
Starting point is 00:47:30 When you're a fan of the Packers or the Patriots or the Steelers or something like that, I don't give a rat's ass about them winning the division. Who cares? It's about winning Super Bowls. If you hang your hat on that, then you're going to be miserable your entire life. It's like if you hang your hat on that, then you're going to be miserable your entire life. It's just like, and like you said, Rodgers knows he doesn't have, like, there's a good chance they won't be in this position again for the rest of his career. They might not be.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I mean, the Vikings are. You hate LaFleur? I don't hate him. How could you hate him? But I do think it's one of those things like, you know, you come from like the McVay coaching tree, and I think those guys just think they're smarter than everyone and they think they can out game plan everyone no matter what it's like oh if someone throws some adjustments adjustments at us doesn't matter i'll be able to to you know work something out on the fly and he's proven time and time again
Starting point is 00:48:18 this year that that isn't the case like they are piss poor in the second half almost in every game this year, they get up big, and then they let teams claw, and then they basically just play not to lose for the remainder of the game. Just hang on for their dear life. Prevent defense prevents the other team from scoring as opposed to, it can also prevent
Starting point is 00:48:38 you from winning. And also, a cardiac team is a tough team to cheer for, and it seems like that's what the Packers are right now. Every game seems like it's getting close. There was a couple blowouts there at Dallas Cowboys game, but since Devontae Adams has gotten back, it feels as if every game's close. And it doesn't matter how much you win behind the playoffs. It's just that you win.
Starting point is 00:48:54 But right now, that NFC looks like it's going to be a tough place to go. That Saints team yesterday against that Niners defense that has been heralded as this historic defense. Granted, they might have had a bad day. They were able to move the ball. Michael Thomas is still getting the ball so often and on such a regular basis when teams are game planning for him. The way Sean Payton can create players and stars is impressive. Last year it was Kamara.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Kamara this year is getting booed out of New Orleans, by the way. If you check Twitter, Twitter in New Orleans is not for Kamara. They love Latavius Murray, who's been brought into the light. But look back. Jimmy Graham was created because of Sean Payton. Yeah. Like, you go back through. Sean Payton creates stars.
Starting point is 00:49:31 This year, Michael Thomas is that guy. Now, Grant, I'm not saying that Michael Thomas doesn't have any talent, but the way Sean Payton and Drew Brees can draw up plays and make things happen, it really exploits defenses. And that Niners defense got exploited yesterday. I assume they'll learn from it and bounce back from it. But Jimmy G and that Niners offense, which I thought and I had said, and I think a lot of people said it had been the weak point of that team,
Starting point is 00:49:52 showed a lot yesterday in a very, very rompous – now, granted, there was a lot of Niners fans there. It came out earlier in the week that the Niners fans said, we're not scared to play down there. Our fans show up everywhere. And the Saints kind of took that personally. They're like, wait, you think you're going to show up? There was a parade down
Starting point is 00:50:09 Bourbon Street of Niners fans saying, who dat? We dat. Who dat? We dat. I mean, the Niners fans travel, so in the playoffs, they're going to have a lot of people everywhere, and they could potentially have home field advantage up there in Santa Clara. But that win with that offensive side of the ball with George Kittle, who's an absolute
Starting point is 00:50:25 savage. That dude, Iowa Hawkeye, Gil Hawks, you've got to feel good about that, Ty Schmidt. He is an absolute savage. That fourth down play where the guy was trying to rip his face off and he just powered through to pick up another 17 yards to put Robbie Gold, who's welcome back, by the way,
Starting point is 00:50:42 Robbie Gold. He missed like a 50-yard or 20-yard short last week. Now he's banging home game winners from 30. He looks good with Robbie Gold, who's welcome back, by the way, Robbie Gold. He missed like a 50-yard or 20-yard short last week. Now he's banging home game winners from 30. He looks good with Robbie Gold. And everything they got going on with that defense, who's probably not going to perform like they did yesterday, that Niners team, you've got to be back on board with. I mean, I like the Seahawks a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I mean, I hammered them last night on FanDuel. I mean, I thought that was a joke of a line. I thought it was a joke of a spread. I thought it was a joke of a spread. The Seahawks were getting a point, playing against this loser Rams team with Jared Goff, oh, a quarterback, and then bang, Goff threw a couple picks, but he's back. That offense seems to be back.
Starting point is 00:51:16 They're getting Todd Gurley the ball. The Rams might be too little too late, but that NFC as a whole, even with the Vikings, that NFC as a whole, aside from the NFCs, which is just a garbage can, a dumpster fire, a trash bag, that NFC as a whole is going to be very, very, very stout going into the playoffs. And I'm excited to watch it. Aaron Rodgers is on your team.
Starting point is 00:51:36 You always have a chance. Right. But man, everybody else has got good guys too. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback, most talented quarterback to ever play the game. I think everybody agrees with that. So you always have a chance with him on the field. Even if you're down, the guy can throw it into a bucket from a mile away.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But Drew Brees is in there. Drew Brees is a heck of a player. I mean, then you've got Jimmy G learning how to play, which Kyle Shanahan drawing up incredibly. They had a fullback pitch a ball yesterday. A fullback was pitching a ball yesterday. Emmanuel Sanders was throwing a touchdown. I mean, with the creativity and with George Kittle as an option at any given moment,
Starting point is 00:52:12 that team's going to play well. Now you've got the Rams surging. They're going to have to win a lot. The NFC is very, very talented. If you just cough or burp, you can get left behind. I think that playoffs, we're going to see some games where we're like, damn, we thought that team was a lot better than they were.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Whammy, buzzsaw happens. And that's going to happen in the NFC. Could potentially happen in the AFC as well. I think the AFC kind of has figured itself out a little bit more than the NFC. But that NFC, the top of the class is so good, so good. And that Niner Saints game yesterday was worth every minute I spent watching that thing very, very gone on vitamins. We've said it basically every
Starting point is 00:52:49 week this year, but I think outside of Lamar Jackson, George Kittle's the best player in football. His best is always better than whatever guy is going against him's best. And he's hilarious. Right. Niners average 6.2 yards per play when he's on the field,
Starting point is 00:53:05 five yards when he's not, and obviously that doesn't seem that jarring, but when you've got a guy who's on the field basically the entire game, they miss him when he's not on the field, not only with blocking. Raheem Mostert, who basically came out of nowhere, he's an incredible running back. They just, even losing to Seattle,
Starting point is 00:53:24 they're putting it together at the right time. I'm not so sure they're not the best team in football. By the way, without him, without George Kittle, it's first and 14.8. Without him, if you do the quick math. There we go. 1.2 per. You put four, that's first and 14.8. That's a penalty to start.
Starting point is 00:53:39 There we go. That is a lot of yards. 1.2 yards might not seem like a lot, but whenever you start stacking them up, you're like, oh, that does feel like a lot. And whenever he gets the ball, I feel like at any given moment he can go to the house. And he's big. He's a lumbering guy. He's like Gronk. He's like Gronk, but he seems to be a better blocker than Gronk.
Starting point is 00:53:55 That's why whenever Doug Gottlieb comes out and says, well, he's a flashy guy, he can't block, it's like, this guy might be the best blocking tight end that has played the game. Not just now. He is bodying people. Now, the best blocking tight end that has played the game. Not just now. He is bodying people. Now, Gronk was a good blocker, too. Never got his credit in the blocking game because of how good he was. He was a nimble Clydesdale
Starting point is 00:54:14 out there. A ninja like Clydesdale whenever he got the ball because of how big he was. But what Kittle does is he has good leverage. He bodies people, and I think he takes a lot of pride in it. That's all he did at Iowa. And he has a great personality. He's a guy that I think, he's going to be on 45 commercials and stuff going on. It's going to become something
Starting point is 00:54:29 where he's going to be everywhere. As he should, he's earned it. But that Niners team, Kyle Shanahan knows he's got something special. You get Emmanuel Sanders in there, maybe get him loose a little bit. Jimmy G starts making the right decision and in that run game with that fullback you can really start doing things. That Niners team showed a lot yesterday. Defense didn't show up in a way which I thought they could
Starting point is 00:54:46 because one of the offensive linemen was out for the Saints, but that offense showed a big, big, big promise yesterday. If they can continue to go, look for the Niners. By the end of the season, it's a big old coin toss. Well, and in the West, too. They still have to play the Rams and they still have to go to Seattle.
Starting point is 00:55:02 So, I mean, it's going to come down to Week 17 to see who wins that division, I'd assume. Sorry for interrupting yet again. Just got a chance to see Foxy's final cut of this week's Roman Hardest Working Man in Sports documentary about the last week that we've had, both at the SEC Championship and everything, all the stupid, stupid life that we live in the last week. And it's very good. Foxy's a talented, talented, handsome young man. You can find that on our YouTube page, youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. Because it used to be forward slash Pat McAfee show, but I forgot the password.
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Starting point is 00:57:39 That's visit expressvpn.com slash pat to learn more. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. And in the AFC, you'd assume the Bills got one locked up, even though they lost yesterday. You'd assume they have the first wild card spot. And now that second wild card spot, the Titans, the Texans, the Steelers. Colts are out because they lose to the Jameis ones.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah. Put up 35 points. Dude, Jacoby had a hell of a game. Hit two picks. It seemed like it had good defense, too. But then you just look at scoreboard. He put up 38 points against them. I don't think Colts will lose that game. That's got to be frustrating
Starting point is 00:58:18 when you've got a guy like Jameis who it's like, alright, this guy stinks. He's just going to keep throwing picks. They're just going to keep airing it out. They're going to keep cutting. Bruce Arians, no risk it, no biscuit. You threw two picks. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:58:29 Who cares? Let's go right back to it. They get a big one. Knocked the Colts basically out of it, out of all contention, which is frustrating because at the beginning of the season, they looked so good. They were able to run the ball so well. They were able to protect so well.
Starting point is 00:58:40 The defense was playing well. And then they just let games get away from them. I was going to say, what happened? They just let games get away from them. Because it's not say, what happened? It's like games get away from them. Because it's not like they were getting blown out. It's not like they were getting outclassed. Five games, one score games. Yeah, so it's just one of those things where who knows, next year maybe they go 11-5
Starting point is 00:58:54 doing the same thing. The difference between good and great is winning those close games. That's the difference between good and great. That year I talked about it. The year we won 2-14, I think eight games were one score games. So that could have been a 10-6 year for us. And we were god-awful. But that's the difference between good and great teams, being able to win out at the end. The Colts haven't been able
Starting point is 00:59:09 to do it this year. Hopefully next year they'll be able to do so. But they're out of the picture, basically. Titans, Texans, Steelers are vying for that sixth seed, the second wild card. And with Ducky Hodges in that, Steelers' defense Diggs joined us in the first hour from Indianapolis. Diehard Steelers fan. He ratted off a bunch of stats about this Pittsburgh Steelers defense, Diggs joined us in the first hour from Indianapolis, a diehard Steelers fan.
Starting point is 00:59:25 He ratted off a bunch of stats about this Pittsburgh Steelers defense. Since Minka Fitzpatrick was traded out of the Dolphins and came to the Steelers, they're like number one in turnovers, number one in yards, number one in this, number one in this. That defense, if we're going to talk about defenses winning games for teams, the Steelers, now that you have an elite quarterback like Duck Hodges, I mean, that's a team that can sneak into the playoffs and get dirty. And the Titans,
Starting point is 00:59:48 this team, normally whenever you replace a quarterback that has been your franchise quarterback, normally there's a little bit of chatter like, I shouldn't have done it. I don't think I've heard a single person in Nashville, I don't think I've heard a single person in the NFL world not give absolute
Starting point is 01:00:03 praise to a man that has earned it and deserved it, which is Ryan Tannehill. He gets out from underneath Adam Gase in Miami, and he is flourishing. Not only because he's an athlete, he had a spear of a tackle yesterday after throwing a pick, which I assume you don't want to do as a quarterback is throw picks or tackles, but he does great things in the red zone. They're number one in the league in the red zone since he's been there. Number seven on third downs.
Starting point is 01:00:23 They got the Texans twice in the last three games. The Texans are like 31 in the NFL in red zones and like last in third downs. So it's setting up as if the Titans are going to beat the Texans a couple of times because Derrick Henry, who's 6'12", 400 pounds and runs a 4'5", is running on a contract here. He's number three in the league right now. They pounded with him. Tannehill's been able to drop it in the bucket.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Vrabel's tough defense has been doing well. Suckup is getting back into it. I don't know if he's 100% yet. Maybe in the next couple weeks. Brett Kern's a good punter. That Titans team slowly and quietly has become a monster and a very hot team. They're going to potentially win the AFC South. And if they win the AFC South, now the Texans are in for the wild card.
Starting point is 01:01:04 So it's either Titans or Texans, Steelers, Bills, and yeah, I think that's it. Yeah. I think the Titans encapsulate, too, when you talk about teams that have that locker room chemistry. They just look like they're having a lot of fun. Those guys really enjoy playing with each other. They enjoy being around each other.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And Vrabel's pushing guys. Right. And I think Taylor LeJuan, by the way, has been a good addition coming back. He was suspended the first four games. He comes back in there. He said, I had a couple bad games. He had to get back into it. That offensive line is dominant. I think anybody who's
Starting point is 01:01:35 ever heard Taylor speak knows that he's probably a good influence in the locker room. I think Vrabel encourages that type of stuff. Derrick Henry's a guy that gets no credit from anybody ever. All he does is just put his big-ass head down and run. I mean, they are a team that's very hot. And Rex Ryan said it on Get Up This Morning, and I think everybody agrees with this.
Starting point is 01:01:52 If you can run the ball and stop the run in the playoffs, that travels. It doesn't matter where you're playing. If your offensive line can move humans, and you have a back that can move the ball, and your defense can be stout, you can win anywhere against anybody on any day. If titans get in especially with how hot they are i think the only question is can tannahill show up in a big game right and i would argue he has been these have all been playoff games for the titans with any any loss here in the last couple weeks they would have
Starting point is 01:02:18 been out of it i think tannahill is a whole new person it's a rebirth they're gonna have to pay him titans are gonna have to pay ryan tannahill i don't think it'll be a crazy asking price. He'll get a good price, and I think they're almost locked in for the quarterback for at least the next couple years. Ryan Tannehill, good for him, good for them. Bad for the Texans that ran into a buzzsaw in Drew Locke yesterday. I think that was an emotional trap game for the Texans.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I think you need that big win against the Patriots. You can kind of overlook it, especially with the Titans around the corner. Drew Locke, these Broncos stink. They got steamrolled. At one point, they scored a touchdown, looked like things were going good. They were down 21 at that point. It was like, damn, it's still a three-score game. So that thing got out of control quick, and I don't think the Texans could catch up, but it's still all in front of them if they can beat the Titans. And whenever I look at that Titans and Texans matchup, you have to like the Titans. You just have to. Whenever you look at the analytics
Starting point is 01:03:06 and the stats of the whole thing, it seems as if the Titans are a team that is trending north, and the Texans are potentially a team that's just going to have to get in the way of them. And the Titans are coming out of nowhere. Colts were talking about the AFC South at the beginning. Then the Texans, oh, this is the Texans division. Nobody even talked about the Titans.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Bang, they make quarterback change. Whammy. The Titans, who I bashed. Oh, yeah. No, no, I was forced to. With good reason. I was forced to do it. They could be a team that gets into the playoffs and does some real damage. Good for them, by the way.
Starting point is 01:03:36 They've always been this close. They've always been the team that loses the close games. They've always been the team that had a lot of promise and it never delivered. They've always been the team that was fun to go watch games and play games down in Nashville. He's always been the team that had a lot of promise and it never delivered. They've always been the team that was fun to go watch games and play games down in Nashville. They've always been that team. Now they really got a team. That's good for them.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I mean, obviously it's a lot of things, but I think if you stick with Mariota the whole year, they're not in this position. It's Tannehill. Have you seen Mariota on TV one time? No. I'm not even so sure he lives in Nashville anymore. Is he gone? Hehill. Have you seen Mariota on TV one time? No. I'm not even so sure he lives in Nashville anymore. Is he gone? He might be.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Did Marcus Mariota disappear? Search party, Marcus Mariota. Yellow alert, or whatever it's called. Amber alert. I'm searching right now. He has to. I don't know how he feels about it. He seems like such a humble guy.
Starting point is 01:04:23 He does. And by the way, Hawaii is a place where it's like. I'll just go home. I'll go back to Hawaii. Shaka, yeah. Just keep it moving. I'd go back to Hawaii too. I thought that Nashville isn't a beautiful place.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Right. Nashville's a good town. No beaches. Nash Vegas is what they call it. Mm-hmm. No shakas, no beaches. You're not out in the middle of nowhere with just your thoughts. I love Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:04:43 The rock doesn't live there. Swim! You're not out in the middle of nowhere with just your thoughts. I love Hawaii. The rock doesn't live there. Let's chat about the college football playoff, shall we? Mm-hmm. I think they get it right with LSU at number one. Now, I would like it to be known that I had never been to an SEC game before in my life. Foxy and I... There we go. Foxy and I got a chance to go to the SEC championship game this past weekend.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And it was something unlike anything I've ever been to in my entire life. I played at West Virginia during a great era. We won a lot of games. We celebrated a lot. We beat Georgia in Atlanta in the Georgia Dome against the Georgia Bulldogs and their fans. A lot of the same people that we were sitting with on Saturday in a suite in the
Starting point is 01:05:37 Mercedes-Benz Stadium. First of all, that stadium is beautiful. Awesome. It looked incredible. Foxy, that thing is beautiful. Best stadium I've ever been to. I agree. I absolutely agree. There's TVs everywhere. It's really wide open, so it's like almost comfortable to walk around. We didn't buy anything, but I've heard
Starting point is 01:05:53 the prices are pretty affordable. The concessions are supposed to be incredible. Yeah, they spent $43 million on a bridge to get to the stadium. I mean, it was very well constructed. Now, granted, there's some people in jail for that. Sure. Because I guess they were only supposed to be $6 million or something like that. And they had $43 million.
Starting point is 01:06:09 So there's some fraudulent things going on. But it is beautiful. Okay? And I've never been to an SEC game before. And I've heard all the chatter. You know, everybody hears ESPN talk about the SEC all the time. You hear about people talking about college football all the time and the SEC. SEC, it just means more.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I'm like, what does that even mean? Like, what are you talking about? It means more. I mean, I got 27 death threats from Mississippi. You don't think it meant a lot to the people up there that were going to kill me in West Virginia? And then we went to that game? Hey. Hey, it just means more down there. It 100% means more. It just means more.
Starting point is 01:06:40 This, I had never been a It was a cult. We were in the middle of a cult. And it was the Georgia Bulldog cult. We were in the middle of a cult. And it was the Georgia Bulldog cult that we were in the middle. You're talking about grown men and grown women barking, barking rabbit. When something good would happen. It was 50,000, 60,000 adults barking. Very accomplished adults. All in unison, sounding like actual Bulldogs,
Starting point is 01:07:12 living and dying with every single snap, knowing that the Georgia Bulldogs were probably going to lose to LSU because this team, with that quarterback, looks unbelievable. They got dudes, by the way, and that defense gave up 614 to Ole Miss, and it's the reason why people are knocking LSU, including myself. Watching those athletes on the field and watching this Georgia fan base just get demoralized by this LSU team, it was something
Starting point is 01:07:33 like I've never seen before. I don't think I've ever been around a diehard fan like this. My dad used to throw things at the TV obviously when the Steelers wouldn't perform well, but that was just his anger whenever Cordell Stewart and Kyle would make a bad decision. When we were in that stadium amongst them, I had never seen anything like it. It is a religion down there.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Oh, yeah. And I saw a lot of heartbroken people. And by the end of that game, that place was empty because it was 85% Georgia Bulldog fans, 15% LSU fans, and the LSU fans obviously having the time of their life. But watching these humans all bark in unison, accomplished adults, we're talking like 60-year-old men and women that are very accomplished. We're talking young people. They are all in. So I very much understand that even though the biggest stadium's in the Big Ten, and a lot of people think the best team right now is in the Big Ten, the Ohio State, although there's a lot of conversation about Clemson, who hasn't got to play anybody.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Not their fault. Scheduling in college football is interesting. I understand that maybe the best teams aren't in the SEC, and the biggest stadium is not in the SEC. I have never seen anything like that. I mean, it is a religion down there. It's like something I...
Starting point is 01:08:44 To be honest, you have to experience to believe it. 100%. Foxy, I did not know what we were getting into. Zito was there as well. I did not know what we were getting into. I'm almost like impressed with the amount of dedication that these people have to these schools. They love the Georgia
Starting point is 01:09:00 Bulldogs and whenever that thing started going the opposite direction they didn't lose a single spunk in their barks until the very end, and I have a lot of faith. But whenever they say the SEC, it just means more, they are not lying. I mean, I have never seen anything like that before. You are spot on. I'm a Big Ten guy through and
Starting point is 01:09:16 through. I've been to a lot of games, Big Ten championships, all that stuff, and the SEC 100% hits differently. Listen, it really does, because student sections, I've seen student sections lose their mind a lot of the ways. I love student sections. I'm a big fan of people losing their minds for their teams. I like fans. I like rompous atmospheres. But when you just see this wave and see, these people are telling me, hey, this is the biggest day of our life. The SEC championship, yeah, the
Starting point is 01:09:39 college football playoff is really good, but there's people that the SEC championship means more than anything else. They call it the Super Bowl. It's the Super Bowl. The SEC, it just means more. To win the SEC, man, this is everything. It's like, no, the college football playoffs still happen. They're like, not down here, pal.
Starting point is 01:09:56 The SEC is a big deal. And I don't know if Joe Burrow didn't know that because he's coming from the Big Ten. We were in that stadium like an hour and a half before the game starts, two hours. It was the first time we got to sit down. I mean, I stood around for like two hours and 45 minutes a game day doing nothing. But when we got to the stadium, got a chance to go into the tailgates,
Starting point is 01:10:13 by the way, walk through them a little bit. Shout out to the Blue Lot. Everybody that stopped me and said hello, I very much appreciate you. Atlanta loves McAfee. It does. Atlanta's a very pro-our show town. Big time. Very thankful for everybody in Atlanta shouting.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Thankful for you. But to get to the tailgate, you see the rabid fan base. And then when we get into the stadium a little bit earlier, we walked, what, 8.2 miles? Yep. 8.2 miles. Yeah, that's what my watch said. I was winded. I was sweating.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I had to get a hoodie and cut the sleeves off. I was sweating all over the place. But we get in there. And, you know, there's people on the field kind of messing around. Then the players started trickling out for the pre-warm-up, which is a beautiful time to be on the place. But we get in there, and you know there's people on the field kind of messing around. Then the players start trickling out for the pre-warm-up, which is a beautiful time to be on the field. This is where Quentin Nelson gets hit in the head with the ball by
Starting point is 01:10:51 Bradley Penny, and there's a situation. It's kind of like the players' last time to kind of do your own thing, kind of get the nerves out a little bit before the warm-up, before people really get in the stadium. And I've never been a fan at that time. I always would go out and kick balls. I said on Twitter where that Quentin Nelson situation with Bradley Penny,
Starting point is 01:11:08 I almost murdered Tim Tebow from like 80 yards away whenever we were playing the Jets. I got a hold of one that just kept going. And I'm telling you, it was about five, six inches from Tim Tebow's head. And I thought I was going straight to hell as that ball was in the air. I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. And it lands right by his head, whistles past him. And he looks up, and I have both hands up in the air. I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. It lands right by his head, whistles past him. He looks up, and I have both hands up in the air, and I give a, I am so sorry type
Starting point is 01:11:30 thing, and he gets back like, oh, no problems. God bless, or whatever he does. He's something very nice. I'm like, oh, my God, I was so scared. Quentin Nelson, Bradley Pinion had a different moment. They shook hands, but it seemed like there was potentially going to be a fight. That pre-warm-up is a beautiful time to be on the field. No pads on. You just kind of got shirts on. You got shorts on. You're just kind of feeling. They had a close-up is a beautiful time to be on the field. No pads on. You just kind of got shirts on.
Starting point is 01:11:45 You got shorts on. You're just kind of like feeling. They had a close-up on this Joe Burrow guy's face on all the TVs in the stadium. I've never seen somebody more calm, cool, and collected. Like, normally that's a thought where guys have their music on, and they're like bobbing, and they're like in their own zone. He just didn't even know where he was, it felt like. This guy, nothing was too big for him.
Starting point is 01:12:04 And I don't know if he didn't understand how massive the sec championship is because he's coming from the big 10 which i don't think i understood how big it was until i was there i mean it is insanity down there it's a cult you just got cults taking on other cults yep and they're very passionate when i saw very accomplished humans just barking, I was like, man, this is wild. Different world. Different world. But Joe was so calm, so cool, so collected. And the plays he was making on the field, both with his feet and his arm and his brain.
Starting point is 01:12:36 And the story that Coach O told about how his phone broke last week. And they were, we want to give him a new phone. He said, I want a phone. I want to focus on football that for me i was like oh this guy loves football he's from ohio so you know he has grit in him i mean that's just something that comes naturally from being from ohio he's got all the talent in the world and he loves football joe burrow everybody's talking about tanking for two and stuff like that i said very early on that i thought this burrow guy was the guy now that i've seen him
Starting point is 01:13:03 in person joe burrow is going to make hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars playing quarterback. I honestly believe that. But I think the College Football Playoff Committee got it right. LSU beats four top 13 teams to end their season. Not Ohio State's fault. Not Clemson's fault that they couldn't do that. This is just how it was and how it went.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And I think what LSU did to Georgia there was demoralizing to Georgia. Not Ohio State's fault, not Clemson's fault that they couldn't do that. This is just how it was and how it went. And I think what LSU did to Georgia there was demoralizing to Georgia. I watched the soul get sucked out of a lot of humans down there. But Ohio State has stumbled a little bit. A couple times against Penn State, they struggled a little bit. They still get a big win. They stumbled a little bit against Wisconsin here early. Now, we mentioned in the first hour that Chase Young, good offense.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I guess he was getting triple teamed, which, by the way, I guess that's a good strategy. Let's assume that the good football teams are going to do that going forward. So you can stop Chase Young and get going. I still believe Ohio State's the most well-rounded team. They've got three Heisman winners. But if Joe Burrow's on the field, I'm betting on Joe Burrow. I haven't got a chance to see Trevor Lawrence. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence was the same guy
Starting point is 01:13:59 last year, national champion as a freshman. But Joe Burrow just hits different. And Clemson hasn't got a chance to play anybody. That's not their fault. I'll be excited to see how they do against Ohio State. That is going to be an electrifying game in Arizona. I think it's a fiesta bowl.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And then Oklahoma, Jalen Hurts, Lincoln Riley, good brain, Baylor. Golly, Baylor was so close to a cultural public. We have footage of me watching the end of that game in overtime where they're using their third string quarterback and still in it and taking Oklahoma all the way to the wire there in overtime. Baylor, if they sneak in a college football player, good for this show, by the way. Have Matt Rule. I mean, that would be great for a show.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Sick them, Bears. By the way, go dogs. Sick them. That's what they do. That's their kickoff chant. I like that. It was insane. Do bulldogs bark?
Starting point is 01:14:54 Yeah, that's all they do. They snore when they breathe. Every breath they take. They just can't breathe. They can't bark either. No, no. Every time they breathe, they snore, and they bark at the littlest things. And it seemed like that's their fan base as well.
Starting point is 01:15:04 It's a perfect. Georgia and Bulldogs are a perfect correlation. I learned a lot about the SEC, and I'm excited for the college football playoff. And I think they actually got it right. I think they got it right. I think everybody will say it. And that Ohio State-Clemson game is going to be one that we want to watch. And I feel bad for Oklahoma. I like the Big 12.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I like Baylor. I like Jalen Hurts betting on himself. I like Lincoln Riley. He's probably going to be the head coach of the Cowboys. That is with no inside information. That's just me saying that. I think that Joe Burrow guy is the truth. And if we can get Joe Burrow versus Justin Fields or Joe Burrow versus Trevor Lawrence, that national championship is going to be awesome. And I think they got it right, honestly. And something that is so subjective, I think it worked out for a way that they couldn't get it
Starting point is 01:15:48 wrong, and they didn't get it wrong, even though there was a chance that they possibly could. Yeah, I think it shook out exactly how we thought it was going to. We said last week that LSU winning, I think they were going to jump up no matter what, just because I think the committee values the SEC a little bit more than, and then on top of that, Ohio State didn't look great.
Starting point is 01:16:03 They would have had to win by like 70 to probably retain that No. 1 seed. Oklahoma, I mean, same deal. You kind of expected them to be there. I'm surprised that Clemson opened as a favorite against Ohio State. Maybe that's just because Ohio State didn't look great. Rex Ryan says that they just got different dudes down there. He said everybody that used to go to Florida State is now going to Clemson. Everybody that used to go to these other schools is now going to Clemson. Everybody that used to go to these other schools is now
Starting point is 01:16:25 going to Clemson. It's not their fault that they didn't play anybody. And North Carolina held them close a long time ago. I think it was in October. But they're a completely different team. Rex Ryan is very invested in his Clemson team. And he's picking them to win by 30 against teams. And I don't know if that's just fans. Rex Ryan's got a good brain.
Starting point is 01:16:42 He says a lot of things where people go what? And then it ends up being true. He has a lot of faith in this Clemson team. But Justin Fields has 41 touchdowns or something like that and one pick. It's like, he's incredible. Chase Young's incredible. J.K. Dobbins is good. That Ohio State-Clemson game is going to be a lot of fun to watch. Well, and I would argue that those same types
Starting point is 01:16:57 of dudes that go to Clemson go to Ohio State. I mean, it's like the, you know, Ohio State doesn't have, you know, mincemeat playing out there. They got guys who could play and start in the SEC. And by the way, Utah. Yikes. Utah. I mean, were you wrong?
Starting point is 01:17:17 No. People are coming after me, though. I will pay attention more to them next year. They're playing in the Idaho Potato Bowl now. You go from on the cusp of being in the playoffs to playing on December 12th. As we go on, we
Starting point is 01:17:33 remember all the times we've had together. That's what I'm thinking about watching Eli Manning here playing his last game. Eli's played for a long-ass time, and now in an NFC East suckfest,
Starting point is 01:17:54 he seems to be getting the better of the Philadelphia Eagles. And I bet them a plus 8.5, so I like that. I got faith in Eli Manning. No idea what the future holds. I assume he'll do something awesome with it. He's Manning. No idea what the future holds. I assume he'll do something awesome with it. He's Manning. That's what they do. Big shout out to everybody who listened to the show,
Starting point is 01:18:10 watches this show, tells other people to listen to this show. You know, a little ground and pound attack is not bad. Big thanks to LeVar Arrington. Love that man every time he comes on. If you don't know who LeVar Arrington is, go look up highlights of him, by the way. He used to be one of the most freaky athletes to ever exist.
Starting point is 01:18:30 He used to just jump over other adults. He'd just be standing there. He'd just jump over them. Excuse me. Coming through. He used to have these long dreads, too. Now he's just incredible on a microphone. Really thankful for him.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Thankful for Ty, Zeke, Foxy, the boys, and obviously my lady here, who's just been dead ass asleep since 8.30. I mean, dead ass asleep right next to me. Every once in a while, she'll lift a pillow up, cover her head so she can't hear me talk. The singing was... Excuse me. I was having a moment with Eli Manning.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Please. Turn the page. So you followed it up with more singing. I wish I remembered more words of that song. I wish Chuck happy birthday. So we have a... Oh, no. Never have a we have seven dogs we have seven pets at this house seven pets at this house four cats two dogs and a mouse that is still alive somehow
Starting point is 01:19:36 um are two dogs one of them's name is valerie the best dog to ever exist she's half pitbull half sharpay and she was on death row okay she was on death row and she knows it so she's very appreciative she's the best dog i've ever encountered in my entire life everybody says that whenever they meet her she's the best you know just appreciative of everything you tell her she'll sit she'll go she'll go nod her head off the door she has to piss or poop she's just the best dog. Okay? Then there's this other dog. Well, let's rewind.
Starting point is 01:20:08 There was a contract signed at our house for those that are new listeners that said Sam was not allowed to bring back any more animals to this house because it was becoming a zoo. You know that movie? We bought a zoo. Sam was creating a fucking zoo here. Okay? It was the next level. There was just every week a new animal was coming in this house. So I made her sign a zoo. Sam was creating a fucking zoo here. Okay? It was the next level. There was just every week a new animal was coming in this house. So I made her sign a contract.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Hey, you can get this animal. It's the last one. So to break that contract, she got a three-legged cat named Scootsie, who I love, who I love. I love Scootsie. So we lived with Scootsie, made it the the fourth cat and one dog and the house was perfect perfect the harmony of the house was perfect everybody got along the other cats who are normally dicks the new outsiders saw the three-legged cat and they're like fuck it we like
Starting point is 01:20:59 her too everybody was nice to everybody except for the cats and the mouse but that's always going to be a problem tom and jerry been doing that shit for a long time Their mouse gets haunted every once in a while These cats jumping up on his little cage thingy So there's a little bit of a harmony disagreement But aside from the big animals that affect lives On a daily basis Everything was harmonic
Starting point is 01:21:17 And then all of a sudden I get Texted a photo Of one of the queen's fucking dogs This corgi thing and she goes what do you think i said he looks disgusting you did not i said that thing looks disgusting you thought he was cute he did he did look cute but i had a contract signed so then i come home and this son of a bitch is here literally son of a bitch that is a factual term, and this son of a bitch is here. Literally, son of a bitch. That is a factual term. He is a son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Oh, they just did our play. The Philadelphia Eagles just had to punt him all the way on the field, run them all the way off, bring the offense back on the field. Now the Giants have to use the timeout. That's what we should have done. Instead, we did their corner timeout over there. The refs don't even know they're calling a timeout. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:22:05 I mean, these refs. I've talked about it earlier... They're calling a timeout over there. The refs don't even know they're calling a timeout. Jesus. I mean, these refs. I've talked about it earlier. They're bad. Anyway, so I meet this dog. And this guy's the biggest prick of all time. Just doesn't listen to a word anybody says. He has no discipline. He gives no fucks about anything.
Starting point is 01:22:18 He pisses in shits all over the house. It's his birthday. So today, he can do whatever he wants. You know? It's like over the house. It's his birthday. So today he can do whatever he wants. You know? It's like when the huge... All I wanted you to say was just that our son's birthday is today and I hope everybody wishes him a happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:22:34 But instead... What's that? We did like a five minute fucking story about... Well, just for the people that don't know who Chuck is. Chuck at one point cost $2,800. He knows it. Excuse me. But he, we did not spend that much money because nobody would spend that much money on this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:22:54 He was $2,800 at one point. He knows it. Like, like Val knows that she was on death row. Okay, Val knows she was on death row. She appreciates it. This son of a bitch knows that he was $2,800. And that's how he acts. He's tough to handle, this thing.
Starting point is 01:23:13 You take him outside, he'll directly hold his bladder. Why are you being so mean to him? Like, he's so sweet. Look, he's sleeping. He's so sweet. I will say, when he's asleep, he's the best dog I've ever seen. And whenever he's relaxed. Which I've heard happens in the next year i'm hoping so i'm hoping so val is the best dog of all time chuck tough to
Starting point is 01:23:32 handle happy birthday to him though tuesday wrapping things up in some states the week after christmas brings the heaviest caseload for police. Break-ins spike every single year during the holidays because families are traveling and burglars know people have expensive gifts just lying around. What's crazy is that only one in five homes have home security, probably because most companies do not make it easy. Other systems can be difficult. Other systems can be intrusive. Other systems can be expensive. The knock on all this stuff was it must be hard to have home security. Boom, SimpliSafe came in and said, no, no, we'll fix all that. SimpliSafe is our choice for home security.
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Starting point is 01:25:37 All right. Well, that's it for us. We'll see you on Thursday. Yeah, tweet us. Oh, Cheese Pick Me Pat Entry. That's what you should tweet me. Cheese Pick Me Pat Entry and at Cheese It. Let's watch a football game together that Mike Leach is coaching in and badass Air Force folks are playing in. Let's have a good time in Arizona. Free hotel, free airfare. Ty schmidt play some independent music so we don't get sued cheers
Starting point is 01:26:07 i put the team on my back, I do it all for the family Everyone think they can rap, nobody ever gon' challenge me Startin' my week on a Sunday, and then they can make it in one day I just been ready to take off, where did my turn on the runway? Never be turnin' around, never be turnin' around, ayy Never be slowin' it down, never be slowin' it down, ayy I keep my foot on the gas, I keep my foot on the gas, ayy I know I'm never gon' crash, I know I'm never gon' crash, ayy
Starting point is 01:26:50 Never be turning around, never be turning around, ayy Never be slowing it down, never be slowing it down, ayy I keep my foot on the gas, I keep my foot on the gas, ayy I know I'm never gon' crash, I know I'm never gon' crash, ayy Everyone making excuses, I've been busy makin' music They just wanna see me fall off, know that I'm never gon' lose it Got addicted to the chase now, people sayin' that I changed now Know that I'm never gon' stand still, I'm treatin' the game like a race now
Starting point is 01:27:17 They really been carefully watchin' me, they treatin' me like I was calories But really they can't get enough of me, they treatin' me like I'm a salary They bringin' me up in discussion, they can't get enough of me They treating me like I'm a salary They bringing me up in discussion They wondering how do I do it so casually I celebrate all of my victories All of a sudden they all go be mad at me Damn, I don't have time for concern I just go live and I learn Trust me I waited my turn Leaving my dream in return This is a given and certain People been listening over the world I been making that money while I be asleep
Starting point is 01:27:41 I never rented the money But now all the money been too busy running to me I put the team on my back I do it all for the family Everyone think they can rap Nobody ever gon' challenge me Started my week on a Sunday If then they can make it in one day I just been ready to take off Waiting my turn on the runway Never be turning around, never be turning around Ayy, never be slowing it down, never be slowing it down, ayy I keep my foot on the gas, I keep my foot on the gas, ayy
Starting point is 01:28:10 I know I'm never gon' crash, I know I'm never gon' crash, ayy Never be turning around, never be turning around, ayy Never be slowing it down, never be slowing it down, ayy I keep my foot on the gas, I keep my foot on the gas, ayy I know I'm never gon' crash, I know I'm never gon' crash, ayy I'm not doin' this for the money, so don't misinterpret my last line The weather ain't always been sunny, but I know that I'm gonna still shine You never gon' make it till you got the power to go and develop a strong mind
Starting point is 01:28:37 Cause everything happens where you don't expect it, the journey ain't given a deadline I'm goin' till I got a flat line, connectin' with people like landline I've been blowin' up like a land landmine I put myself on like a combine Knowing the way that it go And I'm ready for more, I don't wait on the sideline I'm feeling like 2011 when Drizzy was dropping them hits like it's headlines I don't understand what I can't do If I cut you off then I had to I'm staying up late like it's fast food The life of a rapper who in school I don't wanna hear all the people who been
Starting point is 01:29:03 trying to give me advice If you haven't done it before then I'll give you an opinion About what you think I should go do with my life Ayy, I put the team on my back I do it all for the family Everyone think they can rap Nobody ever gon' challenge me Started my week on a Sunday If then they can make it in one day
Starting point is 01:29:19 I just been ready to take off Waiting my turn on the runway Never be turning around, never be turning around, ayy Never be slowing it down, never be slowing it down, ayy I keep my foot on the gas, I keep my foot on the gas, ayy I know I'm never gon' crash, I know I'm never gon' crash, ayy Never be turning around, never be turning around, ayy Never be slowing it down, never be slowing it down, ayy
Starting point is 01:29:43 I keep my foot on the gas, I keep my foot on the gas, ayy I know I'm never gon' crash, I know I'm never gon' crash, ayy

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